r'Ufet'ri*? ERSITY LIBRARY 3 9002 06092 # 1 i 11 '11 |!lii i||S!i. 11 I U ' ¦¦• 'j \>." 'L J YALE UNIVERSITY LIBRARY Purchased from the Gift of GEORGE W. BALDWIN, Y '53 LETTERS AND DlSS'ERTJkTlONS UPON iOa®!^ SilJUSTTSo BY h (% PICKETT. Lfite Cbarge' i*kMm to Fein. WASHlNaTONJ \o'- tatoes and Agitation in Ireland, are preferable to typhus and dysentery in tjj|e Isthmus, though with high wages annexed. This I say, not to discourage but to premonish. With due pre caution, inviolable temperance in every par ticular, and moderate labor, there will not be probably much danger from the incursion of disease ; but without them, it'is inevitable. It will be proper, whilst estimating the cost of a ship canal through the Isthmus, at three or four times that of the Caledonian canal, to give some further reasons for this apparently extravagant estimate. This is easily done. — We will suppose that laborers can be obtained in Europe. I do not think they can be any where in America. Their passage across the Atlantic must be paid, which will be a con-' siderable item. Their wages must inecessarily be high — the double at least of what would be paid them in Europe. Allowing four of five months annually for the rain, during which the work of excavation must be suspended, and for occasional cessation from labor, on account of the fierce and insupportable heat of a tropi-^ cal sun, it may be fairly assumed that the la borer will not perform in the course of the year as much work as he could perform iri Europe in one half the time. And the work men cannot be discharged during tbe rainy season, as they would be in Europe in the win ter. "They must be paid something, and must ¦ be kept together during the long recess occa sioned by bad weather, for if they once Sepa rate and Scatter, they can never be collected together again. Many would fall victims to their imprudence, and many become converts to the anti-laboring principle through the re laxing influence of the climate and the irresisti ble contagion of example. To this it may be added— that much ofthe pro- visions and supplies of all kinds must be brought from the United States or from Europe, and at a great expense probably, and even •t part of the materials to be used in the construction of the canal perhaps. Although limber abounds in the Isthmus, yet I am not sure that it will not be advisable to bring lumber from the United States, so great would be the ex pense of preparing it in a country where there are no saw-mills, no labor-saving machinery, no mechanical contrivances, and no intelligent and skillful mechanics. "These could all be procured from abroad, it is true, but it would be at a great expense. I have stated facts enough to prove I think, that the construction of a ship canal across the Isthmus will be a very difficult and expensive work — vastly more so than will be supposed by those who, not having a personal knowledge of the country and of the surrounding circum stances, consider nothing but the distance which is not great ; and hearing that there is not much elevation to be overcome, cannot conceive why it should be so costly. Rut there is no mystery in the matter to those who have passed over the ground, and paid some at tention to the subject in a spirit of calm and dispassionate enquiry, without enthusiasm or prepossession. Indeed, I consider the estimate ofthe cost that I have made rather a low one. I will now .say something about the piacti- cability of the canal, the most eligible i-6ute, &c., &c: A skilfiil engineer would encounter no great difficulty I apprehend, in finding a suitable route for tbe canal. English engineers have already decided that it exists, and one can be selected probably on which there will be no very great elevations to be overcome — a great desideratum — for should there be much lock age, it will add enormously to the expense and might be fatal to the enterprise. It is doubtful, . from 'the physical character of the country, whether the small rivers and streams among the bills could be made available as feeders to the canal. I say hills, because at the Isthmus, the Andes cease to be mountains, and there is, as stated by Mr. Wheaton, a. complete dis continuity of the chain. There are low narrow valleys, not much elevated above the two oceans, through which the canal could be conducted I suppose, with out aiiy very great deviations fi-om a straight course — the distance not exceeding fifty miles or thereabouts. The hills of the Isth mus are decidedly unfavorable to canalling 1 think. They are mostly isolated, rocky and precipitous, and must he avoided, therefore, as 1 suppose they can be. To decide upon the two termini of the canal will be a little difficult, but the subject will present I apprehend, no obstacles that will be fbund tb be insuperable. Chagres will not an swer for the Atlantic terminus for want of a sufficient depth of water, and for this there is no remedy. Another terminating point must be sought for, therefore, and it can be found I have been informed^ as Mr. Whkaton says, not far from Chagres; though it will be difficult to find one I think free from all objection. The coast at and aboilt that place is low and marshy, and extremely favorable to Uie generation of miisaxiik effluvia. On the Pacific side there are two points, one of which would be selected probably for the terminus — the city of Panama and a large vil lage five or six leagues distant called Cliorrera. The former ought to be preferied without doubt I think, if a sulficiency of water can be obtained. Panama is an ancient town — was once populous, opulent and flourishing, and it is difficult to contemplate her now, «hornof her wealth, decayed and decaying, her popula tion reduced to one third of what it has been, B'ithout feeling some sympathy for the inhabi- tants. The town is thought abroad to be very unhealthy and is rather so, but not so decided ly as to render its insalubriousness a very seri ous objection to the canal terminating at it. One of the scourges of the tropics, the yellow fever Is almost unknown and with some amelio ration of the police would be entirely, as I be lieve, being a non-contagionist. The stream called Rio Grande, mentioned by Mr. Whea ton, falls into the Pacific just out side of the town, and might be made somewhat available in constructing a canal, for when the tide is in, it forms a creek of consider able depth — deep enough to fioal large vessels. In the year 1838, I was four days on the river Chagres, ascending it to Cruces, 21 miles from Panama, and from my observation, I am dis posed to believe that Me. Wheaton has over rated its volume of water and its depth which, he says, varies from twenty-two to thirty feet. But this is not material, as I do not believe much use — if any — can be made of the river in conjunction with a canal from sea lo sea, except as a feeder. Canals are often carried along rivers, on their very banks, but do not often enter them but at the terminus, and there seems to be not less truth than professional en thusiasm in the reply made by the celebrated engineer, Bkindley, to the question pro pounded to him in tbe House of Commons — " What do you consider to be the use of rivers ?" To which he answered — "To feed navigable canals." This was said eighty years ago, when canalling was in its infancy in England, but experience has shewn that Brindley, though a self-taught engineer, was pretty correct in his opinion, for rarely I believe, has a river been made directly part and parcel of a canal. It was long a popular idea, though never en tertained I suppose by scientific men, that the Pacific at Panama was considerably elevated above the Atlantic at Chagres, and the assumed, inequality has been mentioned as likely to in terpose an obstacle to the construction of a canal across the Isthmus. "This opinion" says Mr. Wheaton, was long since contested by Baron Von Humeolet, and his conclu sions have recently been confirmed by the actual observation of Mr. Lloyd, made with the greatest accuracy and care in 1828-2&, by order of General Bolivar." Once in every twelve hours the Pacific is certainly higher than the Atlantic, in conse quence of tne tide rising to a much greater height at Panama than at Chagres ; and once in every twelve, it is lower too. Mr. Wheaton e.xplains this fully. The tide rises sometimes tp twenty feet at Panama — to twenty-five, it is said, but this I doubt : At Chagrres, not more than a foot and a half, and consequently, at high tide ihe Paqific will be from eightto ten feet 8 higher than the Atlantic, and at the end from eight to ten lower or thereabouts. And this, I conceive to be the whole secret of the ine quality, so much talked about, so little under stood, and of so little importance as an impedi ment to the making of a canal. The great question is, alter all— Who is to make the ship canal across the Isthmus ? To me it appears to be a work, of too great magni tude to be undertaken and completed by any individual or association of individuals, unless I am hugely mistaken in my estimate of the cost. Nor do I believe that any great capital ist would think of undertaking it— certainly not with the present limited amountof information we possess with respect to the practicability of the work, its cost and its utility. It maybe assumed lo be practicable I suppose ; but I atu of opinion that no living engineer could esti mate the cost of it within five millions of dol lars, for that must depend much upon contin gencies occurring during the progress of the work. The canal ought to be an international work to the construction of which all the nations in Christendom having an interest in it should contribute on the pro rata principle, or the United States, England and France might make it, and generously allow the whole world to use it without tax or toll. This with their abun dant resources, 'they might afford to do, should it cost as much even as fifty or sixty millions of dollars. But, that it will be understood by any international association, may be desired, and may be hoped for, but can scarcely be ex pected. Nations often coalesce and combine to oppress and to plunder, though they rarely unite for any benevolent and useful pur pose. If the peace of the world or of Christendom could be perpetuated, then the commercial powers would not hesitate probably, to co-ope rate in so magnificent a work as the canal. But as this cannot be, there is not much prospect that any but the most powerful nations, will co-operate in it — even should they do so ; ibr in the event of a maritime war. New Granada being weak and unable to make herself re spected by unscrupulous belligerents, it is tol erably certain, that the strongest naval power would seize the Isthmus and the canal both together, and place the latter in a state of oc clusion against all the world except her own subjects and her allies. The strongest power for the next thirty or forty years will be France and Great Britain probably — afterwards, the United States, and at the end of one hundred years, with our 150 millions of inhabitants at least, we, or rather the 150 millions our pos terity, if inclined to make conquests, can in vade Europe, carrying with them the blessing of religious toleration, equal laws, free institu tions and sound and liberal principles of gov ernment. And in much less than one hundred ¦ years, we will dictate if necessary, just princi ples of international law, paying no regard to Holy Alliances, Quintuple Alliances, or alli ances of any kind. Farewell then! a long farewell to paper blockades ; ordersx in coun cil, the right of Impressment and the right of Search. All these will not only have ceased to axist but cease to be named. Spain when she was mistress of her colonies _ in America, ought to have made a ship c^'"* across the Isthmus, and she could easily i>ave done so, for the sum necessary to acconiplisu it would have been but a small item m the almost co,iintles3 millions she wasted in butcherly and ruinous wars during the reign of two ot her sovereigns — the emperor Charles the Fifth and Philip the Second. And this might have been done too without subtracting a single dollar from the official remittances to Europe. A tithe of the vast sums dedicated to the build ing of churches and convents in Spanish Amer- ica would have defrayed the whole expense. And now the greatest portion of these expensive edifices are decayed and decaying, and in a state of ominous dilapidation. Their fate will be, to crumble into heaps of ruins and rubbish most assuredly not to be rebuilt, whereas, a canal, besides being a work of immense utiUty and creditable to the people vho make it, would not only outlast these useless structures, the convents, but the Coliseum and Pyramids even, for when they would be nothing more than mounds of dust or of shapeless stone, the canal would be growing in importance as it grew in age, and no accident would be likely to distroy it but such a one as would destroy the Isthmus itself. The non-improving character of the Span iards has left its impress but too visibly through out South America. There is scarcely a road that deserves the name in all the, country, and there are no canals except here and there a ditch bearing the name of canal, of but little extent and none Ihat are completed humble and un pretending as they are. In Ihe immediate neighborhood of the cites and large towns, some pretty substantial stone bridges are to be found " few and far between, " and yet there is no country where roads and bridges are more necessary. The Spaniards who conquered the country were devoted to religion aud war- consequently they built churches and fortresses; the fashion and the uses of which having passed away they now cumber the ground as monu ments of a short-sighted and semi-barbarous policy. When 1 say religion, 1 mean the super stition of that day. It is a remarkable fact, that the heathen sov ereigns of Peru — the Incas — did more during the three or four centuries they governed the country, in the way of road making and'canal- ling — the latter fcr the purposes of irrigation — tnan the civilized christians who succeeded them have done during the three hundred years of their iron domination. And there aie still existing vestiges of better roads that were con structed by the ancient Peruvians than can be found at this day, any where in Soulh America. I do not include Mexico, which is in North America, where something more has been done in the line of "internal improvements," than in any other part of the Spanish dominions on this continent. The South American States too, had they, when they threw off the Spanish yoke, settled down into quiet, peaceable, unambitious re publics, as the friends of human liberty, after their long, eventful, and sanguinary struggle,, hoped they would, might have made the canal in question, by cofittiljuting an inconsiderable 9 portion of Ihe sums they have squandered dur ing the last twenty years, upon their senseless, deplorable, destructive, and apparently endlejs conflicts — waged nine cases out of ten, for no conceivable and for no ostensible purpose even, than to decide whether General Tliis or Gene ral That, shall be intrusted with supreme and irresponsible executive power. It would not be an extravagant estimate to suppose that,, within the last twenty years, not less than four hundred millions of dollars have been wasted by the new republics upon their domestic feuds, leaving their debts and the interest on them unpaidf, and in the meantime no public work of consequence has been either undertakeh or completed. This is greatly to be deplored. I, as a friend of the country, deplore it, but must conteut myself with hoping for, rather than of expecting, better times. I will now make a few remarks about the importance and value of a ship canal across the Isthmus to the commercial world. That they will be great is incontestable, but still it does not strilre me that they will be quite equal to what Mr. Wheaton, and others suppose. It will be of great use without doubt, but its util ity will be vastly diminished should the canal be constructed with a view to its being a remu nerating properly, and for this reason it should be made by a government or by governments, that would not look to it as a source of revenue, and who would permit it to be used free of charge or nearly so. If owned by individuals they must have a fair interest on their invest ment which would be five per cent per annum at least; and jn addition to this, the expense of superintendence, administration and repairs, would be very considerable. All of this put together would, it is to be apprehended, make the charges on vessels passing through, so enor mous, that it would be found, in many cases, the best economy to send them round Cape Horn. But this obstacle would be more serious at first than afterwards, and would be less in the way as commerce' increased and expanded, and might finally disappear, not during the pre sent century however. Humboldt ^ays: as quoted tjy Mr. Whea ton, that "when a canal of communication " shall connect the two oceans, the productions " of Nootka Sound and of China, will be brought "nearer to Europe and the United States, by " more than two thousand leagues. Then, and ''then only, will mighty changes be effected in " the political state of Oriental Asia ; for this •'narrow tongue of*land, (the Isthmus of Pana- " ma) against which the waves of the Atlantic "have so long beat in vain, has been for ages " the bulwark of the independence of China " and Japan." This was written thirty -five years ago, and 1 am obliged to believe that if the celebrated and illustrious author Was about to make his remarks now, he would undoubtedly qualify somewhat the concluding member of the sen tence, for recent events (the Opium War) have shewn clearly enough, that the "independ ence" of China has not found a "bulwark" in the Isthmus. " The narrow tongue of land " still exists in all its geographical and geological integrity, unviolated by the pickaxe or spade, and yet in the meantime, the independence of 2 China has come to be a very debatable ques tion. She is independent in theory perhaps, but not in fact, or she never would have made peace as she did. on the humiliating conditions dictated by the British Government which gave the pacification much more the appearance of a capitulation than of a treaty. A nation can scarcely be called independent, that submits to have a peace dictated to it at the cannon's mouth. Such independence is but nominal. — And as re gards Japan, although it may seem presumptu ous in me to dissent from any opinion express ed by Humboldt and adopted by Mr. Whea ton, yet I am obliged to believe, that the in dependence of that empire does not now and never did depend in any manner, upon the condition of the Isthmus." The Japanese owe the preservation of their independence it ap pears to me, to their laws and institutions, to the indomitable character of the people, anS above all to the inhospitable and unrelaxing rigor with which strangers are excluded from the country. These constitut« the " bulwark, " of Japaiuese independence, which, were the English to get a footing in Japan, would ere long be num bered among the'things that have been, 'though the Isthmus might be a hundred times as broad and as impregnable as it is. J will particularizs a little about the charges on vessels passing through the_ canal to be or not to be constructed. Should the tolls be high as it is to be feared forthe reasons given above, then it may be assumed I think, that not less than one half of the vessels bound to the Pacific would go by the Cape, particularly those going to Chile ; to Peru ; to the southern parts of Polynesia, and to portions of Australia. AU the whaling ships— between four^and five hun dred, would be apt to take that route from mo tives of economy. And the fact, as I conceive it to be that half of the vessels navigating the Pacific will be excluded from the benefits of the canal, will be a powerful reason why the work should be an international one, if it is possible for the nations to lay aside for once their distrust and their jealousies and animos ities, and to unite cordially in an undertaking that will reflect great glory upon those who accomplish it, and confer upon mankind a sig nal and lasting benefit. , Supposing the canal to cost no more than thirty millions of dollars — a very low, estimate I think— then to- 'secure a remunerating divi dend, not less than two millions must be col lected, and this would require two thousand vessels to pass annually, paying on an average one thousand dollars each, which is a large number of ships and a high toll. At present, this number would not pass — not the half of it probably. One effect the canal would certainly have, I suppose — it would resuscitate the city of Pa nama, and brinj back to it a part of the com mercial prosperity which it has lost. It would probably, make too, the Isthmus a flourishing aud populous country ; now it is neither one nor the other. " This would be doing some good undoubtedly, but on a limited scale, whilst the expenditures which achieved it would be most certainly very great. Great num bers of the Europeans emigrating to the Isthmus as laborers, would settle there perma- w tiently. They would be mostly Irish probably, and would be a great acquisition to that region, and in time make it a kind of New Hibemia. They would be obliged to forego the potato, but Would find an excellent substitute for it in the plantain which is not inferior to it as an escu lent and is much easier cultivated. * So far 1 have considered an artificial commu nication through the Isthmus with reference to a ship canal ; but it is susceptible of being viewed under a variety of aspects. All sorts of communications have been suggested and proposed. One plan is to connect the river Chagres with the Pacific by a common boat canal. I doubt the expediency of this project. The best route would be the one mentioned by Mr. Wheaton, commencing at the river Trinity, which empties into the Chagres, and carry it through a tolerably level coun try towards Panama or Chorrera. On this route I dn not think much lockage would be required. Light steamers or other boats coulii ascend the river to the canal at all seasons and thus keep the navigation in constant acti vity. To make a canal from Cruces to Pana- * Since this was written, in consequence of what is called the roi, it has become a problem whether in future the Irish potato can be relied or from Gorgona to Panama ma, I consider to be but little short of "nPfac- ticable. The rocky, hilly character ot ine country for more than half the distance tornids it.' There could not be either earth or water found in sufficient quantity, or in the right places. It might possibly be done by' making a terminus at Gorgona, two miles below Cruces, but this I much doubt. .u t - . Another project, is a railroad from ttie trin ity river or from Gorgona to Panama. This, I consider rather more promising, if the road could be made on pretty good terms, and as a route might be found I think, that would not require much grading, possibly it might be — But great care ought to be observed in making the surveys and estimates, and nolhing ought to bf attempted until every possible expense is ascertained by engineersot unquestionable com petency and integrity, and then ten per centum ought to be added for contingencies. We know how fallacious estimates of this kind sometimes turn out to be in the United States, where it is mtich easier to obtain tbe requisite data. The danger that they will be erroneous and decep tive, is much greater in South America. The Iftst afid most humble as well as the most practicable and cheapest project, is to make a good carriage road from the Trinity This might be upon safely as a staple article of food. To the Irish, of all the people of the world, this is a question of great and literally of vital impor tance, for upon this vegetable, one halt of them at least depend almost exclusively for food. Should it fail, what can be done ? There is no other productions known that can be cultivated successfully so far north, that will yield the same quantity of food from a given quantity of ground. Indian corn comes nearest to it, .but will not ; oats and barley the next nearest, will not — so that let the anti-Malthusians say what they please, and dream what they please, here is a country whose population has far outstrip ped its means of subsistence, But say these Utopian economists — Mr. Allison and the rest ; that the soil of Ireland is capableof producing food for double the present population, which 1 much doubt ; but the important fact at pre sent is, that it does not produce near enough for the exis'ing eight millions, and whilst these able and ingenious writers (they aie really so) are proving that there might be double the food needed, the inhabitants are dying of starvation ty tens of thousands. ^ Now could a million, or a half million, or one hundred thousand of the Irish be trans planted to the Isthmus of Panama, it would be a blessing to them and a benefit to mankind. They could make the gieat canal, if it can be made, and the Isthmus now a wilderness, sub mitted to Irish intelligence and Irish energy, would become a productive and flourishing and beautiful country, while it never will be whilst in the exclusive possession of the present race of occupants. But these would be benefitted too. They should not be dispossessed or oppressed, or wronged in any way. Example and emu lation would stimulate them to exertion, and in time, they would become an industrious and an enterprising people, which at present they cannot be said to be. — But all this is dreamy and Utopian too. done at a comparatively small expense, and if no very great good resulted from it, there would be no very great sacrifice of time or of capital. But this road, if not raised above the general level of the valley over which it would be carried, would be under water during a part of the rainy season. 1 will here remark, though out bf place, that as far as my knowledge extends, ship canals have not in any case yielded a fair remune rating profit on the investment. The Caledo nian canal is scarcely kept in repair from the receipts, and 1 do not think that the Amster dam and Niewdiep canal is found to be profit able. The Welland canal in Canada is not. But this is scarcely a ship, canal, having only eight and a half feet of water, and vessels of more than one hundred and twenty-five tons burden do not pass. The Delaware and Rari- tan canal has not met the public expectation either as regards receipts, they falling far short of what were anticipated. The Louisville canal in Kentucky, is doing better I believe than any of them, but it is on a small scale, being only between one and two miles in length, and justifies no inferences in favor of great and ex pensive works. It can Scarcely be called a ship canal either, as steamboats only pass tRrough it, some of them of considerable bur den it is true, but all perhaps drawing but little Water in comparison with their tonnage. I now conclude this very long and desultory letter, which is as much a dissertation upon matters and things in geiieral, as upon a ship canal through the Isthmus. What I have written has not been written with a view to discourage anybody who may be disposed to embark in that glorious, yet to my thinking-, rather uncertain and perilous enterprise of making a ship canal. JUy. object is to promote enquiry and investigation, for considering how much has been said and written about connect- ' ing the two oceans by an artificial coinmunica- 11 tion, there is still to this day a singular and lamentable deficiency of accurate and minute information in relation to it. I do not possess eno.ugh myself by three-fourths, to warrant my scribbling, but seeing that sundry persons not much betterinformed than myself have written upon it very learnedly, lucidly and entertain ingly, I flatter myself that I do not commit any unpardonable impertinence in making public my crude speculations. I am with high respect. Your obedient servant, J. C. PICKETT. Francis Markoe, Jr., Esq., Cor. Sec. of the Nat. Institute. LETTER II. Lima, April 13, 1848. Dear Sir : Since writing to you on the 5th ultimo, on the subject of a ship canal across the Isthmus of Panama, I have been informed by M.Mareschau, the French Charge d'Aflaires to Bolivia, now here — that two skilful engi neers despatched by the French government, are now engaged at the Isthmus, in making surveys and examinations, with the view of deciding upon the practicability of a canal, the expense of its construction, .&c., &c. From the well-known skill and activity .of French engineers, it may be presumed that the task as signed to those gentlemen will be promptly and faithfully executed. The danger is, that un less they possess already some knowledge of Spanish America and of the Spanish Ameri cans, they will be apt to underrate the difficul ties to be encountered in the progress of the,, San Juan, flowing from lake Nicaragua to the work, on account of the heat of the climate, rains, disease, &,c., and consequently make an entirely too low estimate of the cost of the work. Not long ago, an article appeared in the Jour nal des Debats, (Paris) stating that two engi neers were about to proceed to the Isthmus of Panama, for the purpose of ascertaining the best route for a canal. They are the same no doubt mentioned above. The author of this article decides unhesita tingly, that a canal is practicable, but asserts that for a " maritime canal," there are only three " possible'' routes — the Isthmus of Pana ma, of Nicaragua and Darien. If by a mari time canal, he means a ship canal, as without doubt he does, then he might have excluded the two last, unless he intends to give to the ¦KorApossiile, a very broad and comprehensive signification. The aggregated disposable cash of Europe might suffice, perhaps, to make such a canal along the Nicaragua route, and 1 doubt if much less would do it. Or iif the author means a mere common boat canal, he might have assumed the number of routes to be five, as Mr. Wheaton has done. But a common canal, although it might be of great use to the country through which it would pass, would not much facilitate general commerce, of which the writer seems to be aware ; for " there is not much to be expected," he says, "of a canal, unless constructed in such a man- " ner, that vessels sailing from London,! f™ni " Bordeaux or New York, may continue their " voyage to the Pacific, as tar as Lima, Aca- " pulco or Canton. A transhipment would oc- " casion the loss of preaious time, and merchan- "dise would incur the risk of loss and of Ba- "ing pillaged, in regions like the Isthmus, " where the notions of meum and tuum are " rather loose." I concur in all this, except the insinuation against the moral honesty of the Isthmenians, which is somewhat gratuitous. In this respect, the people of the Isthmus are very much like those in other countries of the same condition and of the same social pretensions. Depreda tions are sometimes committed upon merchan dise without doubt, in its transit over the Isth mus, and thefts occur entirely too often. But where do they not occur? I think it neither liberal nor just to denounce a whole population in this sweeping manner,' on account of the delinquencies of a few individuals of one particular class — the carriers. The expense and delay attending the transhipn^nt, in cluding inevitable loss and damage, furnish ob jection enough to a common canal, without imagining or inventing any other." A ship canal, with twenty feet of water, al lowing vessels of ten or twelve hundred tons burden to pass, is the great desideratum, and they in my opinion (as 1 have said in my first letter) can only be made across the Isthmus of Panama — the Atlantic terminus being in the neighborhood of Chagres and the Pacific ter minus at or not far from Panama ; and, unless a sufficient depth of water can be found within thirty or forty miles of Chagres, I shall regard the practicabihty of a ship canal, as very ques tionable. Ilis said in the Debats, that the river Atlantic, " is deep enough for frigates, almost its whole length.'' This is certainty a mistake I think. Frigates draw from fifteen to twenty- two feet of water, and there is not in my opinion, a third of the San Juan of that depth, and I have no doubt, that it -pould cost less, mile for mile, to dig a ship canal, than to re move the obstructions in that river. The writer of the article in the Debats, says also, that " the time will come, when the Rimac, "in tbe neighborhood of Lima, will be con- " nected with the Amazon by a rail- way or a "canal." As no time is specified when this is to hap pen il cannot be safely contradicted ; but that time, if ever it comes, is very remote, I fancy — at least five hundred years off, in my opinion, and as we, of the present age, cannot have any great interest in what is to occur in that day, a discussion of the subject would be unprofita ble and superfluous. I will say, however, that this dictum seems to have been ventured, rather from an inspection of a map of South America, than from any very accurate geographical, topo graphical or hydrographical knowledge of the country, through which that rail-way or canal would have to pass, which is a region in all re spects most unfavorable to canalling or rail road making. The author seems to express liimselt, as though he believed that the Rimac is a navigable stream, which it is not, and has not either length, breadth, depth or volume to entitle it to be called a river. It woidd have been more exact, bad the wriler-said; that the Amazon will be connected 12 some day with the Pacific, by a rail-way or canal, which, however, I do not regard as being more than barely possible. The road or canal, in order to reach the navigable waters ot the Amazon, must be I think, not less than four hundred miles in length, though some of the tributaries of that river are to be met with, within one hundred and fifty miles, and I much doubt, whether a canal can be made through the Andes, for the want of feeders or from the difliculty of making them available, in conse quence of the arid, rugged, precipitous charac ter of the country. There are mountains four teen or fifteen thousand feet high, which would have to be overcome some how by fair means or by foul, and though much of this elevation might be avoided, by running the roadi through the gorges or breaks in the Cordillera or moun tain chain, yet, the height to be fairly met and surmounted, is much greater I imagine, than the boldest engineer has ever yet thought of encountlring. But it appears to me, that any speculation about this matter is premature, by four or five centuries at leasf. When the country of the upper Amazon and Peru, comprising nearly three millions of square miles, shall have a population of twenty- five or thirty millions, in stead of about two millions, as at present, then this project may be taken seriously into con sideration. But it is doubtful whether that amount of population or anything approaching it will ever exist, although the territory is ade quate to the support of double the number probably. For many reasons — human laziness being a prominent one — the warm regions (they are not all warm) ofthe tropics in South America do not appear to be favorable to the' ? increase of population, notwithstanding the very little labor it requires to- procure subsis tence, as I have mentioned in my former letter. Nor does there appear to be a decided ten dency towards augmentation anywhere in the Spanish American States, though in some of them the numbers are slowly increasing. It may be assumed as certain, I think, that at the ¦ time of the conquest, Peru had double the population that she has at present ; and without giving plenary credit to the amplifications and exaggerations of the benevolent advocate of the Indians, Las Casas, I have little doubt that all the civilized or quasi-civilized coun tries of the continent, conquered by the Span iards, were much more populous than they have ever been since. The countries I mean, ate that part of Mexico, formerly known as Anahuac, and some of the ancient neighboring States, Yucatan, part of Central America, part of Cundinaniarca, in New Granada, Quito and Peru. I use the word civilized, as descriptive of those nations or communities that had estab lished forms of--government of some kind or other, and systems of laws more or less per fect, who relied upon agriculture for subsis tence, who manufactured cloth and wore clothes, and who had made some progress in a variety ot arts, as all those nations had done. I repeat, that all that I have written about the difficulty of making a ship canal to con nect the two oceans, it has not been my in tention to say anything, calculated to discour age the undertaking, but to state facts, and to^ enable' others to understand ahd to appreciate the difliculties of it. My object is to promote enquiry and discussion, and to place the subject before the public in its true light, (as far as I - am capable of doing so) which has never yet been done, as I believe, nor, had the question ever before been as fully, as lucidly and as satisfactorily discussed as it has been by Me. Wheaton, and he does not seem to have fully considered the numerous obstacles that must be encountered by those who commit themselves to this more than Herculean enterprise— more than Herculean I say, for the cleansing of the Augeati stables, though no small hydrographi cal achievement^as the story is told — was but a trifle compared to the digging a ship canal across the Isthmus. I repeat, and it cannot be repeated too often, that this enterprise is too vasta one for an indivi dual or a company of individuals, unless they can command thirty or forty millions ot dollars, and attbrd to wait from five to ten years before they would receive any interest. No capitalist will embark his fortune in the experiment in my opinion — none has embarked, and none ought lo embark in it — ^and when we see the names of un known individuals with no visible or invisible capital flourishing in the papers, as grantees of charters obtairied from the New Granadian gov ernment for making rail-ways and 'canals through the Isthmus, we may be sure that the whole affair is nothing more' or less than one more humbug to be added to the now most copi ous list of humbugs, with which the public has been annoyed or gulled or amused during the last quarter of a century. 1 am, withhigh respect. Yours, &c., J. C. PICKETT. Francis Markoe, Jr., Esq., Cor. Sec. of the Nat. Institute. LETTER 111. Lima, Sept. 30, 1844. Dear Sir : — After sending you two commu nications respecting a ship canal across the Isth mus of Panama, I certainly did not contem plate sending a third ; but yet I send it — why, I now proceed to state. There has been lately published here a letter from one ofthe engineers mentioned, in jmy last, sent nearly a year ago by the French gov ernment to explore and survey the Isthmus, with reference to the construction of artificial communications through it. This gentleman says, in substance, that " a canal is a work of very possible execution, and much more easy than that of many canals in Europe " — that it will be from 75 to SO thousand metres, a little more or less — (about fifty miles) that in cross ing the Isthmus it m ust be carried to the height of about 130 metres — (about 420 feet) which may be reduced by a deep cut at the summit to 110 metres, (about 361 feet) that forty locks will be necessary on each slope from the sum mit ; eighty in all — that ut the highest eleva tion there ia no stream of water that will serve to feed the canal ; but that au abundant supply can be " easily " obtained by conttrucling arti ficial reservoirs, that will be filled during the rainy season. 13 The engineer gives no further details — no estimate of the cost of the canal ; of the time required to complete it, or of any thing : say ing very properly that his report must first be made to the minister who confided his mission to him, and that besides, he had not finished and adjusted all his calculations. The letter is addressed to the Governor of Panama, and is published in the Spanish language. I suppose that the engineer is speaking with out doubt, of a ship canal, as he calls it, an ocean canal ; (canul oceanico) and speaks of ships (naviosj passing through it. It may be premature to make any remarks upon what he has said in a hasty and informal note, or until hiS' final report is made ; and criticism upon it al present may be invidious and ill-timed. But still the letter is to me, so carious and interest ing, and the deducti|ins so antipodal to what I should have anticipated from the data given, that having scribbled somewhat about this same canal, I cannot abstain from making a few observations in addition to those I have already made, holding myself ready to confess and re tract all the errors I may fall into, and to make the amende honorable to the engineer if I do him injustice. The length of the canal will not exceed fifty miles, and the greatest elevation to be overcome is 428 feet, reducible to 301 by a cut of sixty eight. The elevation is four times as much aS I supposed it would be, and the consequence is that the obstacles in the way of a ship canal which I had indeed supposed to be almost in surmountable are in fact much greater than I had imagined. To dig a canal through the Isthmus, through which ships of twelve hun dred tons could pass, supposing there to be but little lockage, seemed to me, the country, the climate, and the circumstances considered, to be a gigantic undertaking; but when it turns out that the canal has to be carried over ground 428 feet high, and that at the summit there are no streams for feeders, to think of making it seems to me to be contemplating scarcely any thing short of an impossibility. And yet the engineer says, the canal will be " more easily constructed than many canals in Europe." But certain it is, that there is not in Europe, or in the world a ship canal of fifty miles in length constructed m the teeth of so many adverse circumstances. It is not necessary to be an engineer to know that the digging of a canal for twenty feet of water, through a level coun try and under the most favorable ciicumstances; healthy climate, abundance of provisions and cheap labor, must still be very expensive; nor is it necessary to be an engineer to know, that the expense must be vastly augmented — three, four or five fold, when the circumstances are not favorable— climate not very healthy, hot and enervating, and favorable to the generation •of disease, when persons are crowded together as they are on canals when being constructed — a rugged, broken, rocky country, and hills of no small height to be surmounted ; and labor, provisions, supplies of all kinds, except a few tropical productions perhaps, very dear as would be the case in the Isthmus. Not less than half the excavation probably, would be made in solid rock, and this and the deep cut at the summit and the eighty locks, are formi dable facts. An opinion ag to what the cost would be cannot be much more than a conjec ture — a mere rough guess, and it does not ap pear to me to be possible with every appli ance of science, ot art, of industry, and with all the data obtained or obtainable, to make anything like an accuiate and reliable estimate of the cost of the work. Now, after what the engineer has snid, I should not think of putting it at less than fifty or sixty millions of dollars. Think but of those eighty locks, the deep cut at the summit, and the artificial reservoirs for collecting rain water to feed the canal ! And these reservoirs, be it remembered, must be of a capacity to hold "water enough to sup ply the canal during the whole dry season of seven months, saying nothing about leakage and evaporation. Why, the engineer who of fered to cut Mount Athos — was it? — into a statue of Alexander the Great, holding a river in one hand and a city in the other; was it not as bold a man as he who would undertake to make this " ocean canal," as the engineer calls it. I read not long ago in the iJe««c des Den» Mondes, (Paris,) an article of considerable length, written by Mr. Chevalier, in which! he discusses as Mr. Wheaton had done before' him, the practicability and utility of an artifl-- cial communication to connect the Atlantic and' Pacific oceans. He examines at some length, the advantages and disadvantages of all the routes that have been proposed, and decides in favor of Panama. He considers a ship canal to be perfectly practicable, and believes that it may be constructed without any enormous ex penditure of treasure ; but, that nevertheless it is rather loo great an undertaking for private indi viduals. He proposes, therefore, that it shall be undertaken and completed by France and En gland as copartners, assuming that it would not cost France more than thirty or forty mil lions of trances for her half of the work — esti mating the whole cost of the canal, at from 60 to 80 millions — or from twelve to sixteen mil lions of dollars, certainly not more in my opin ion, than one fourth part of what the actual cost would be. But the most amusing part of Mr. Cheva- liek's article is, the idea that France and En gland could unite for the purpose of making the canal at their own cost for the benefit of mankind. The idea is full of philanthropy and benevolence, but is rather Utopian it seems to me for the present day, and in advance of the age some hundreds of years. But still believing as I do in human progress and improvement, I think the lime will come when nations will unite for similar purposes, but that time is not yet nor near. Now France, that is, Louis Philippe^ would prefer using her thirty or forty millions for the building of thirty or forty more war steamers, or in adding to the fortifications at Paris and at Algiers, and Great Britain would prefer to invest her 30 or 40 millions in military armaments also, or in adding two or three ad ditional kingdoms to her East India possessions. The French engineer says nothing in his letter to the governor of Panama, about the termini of the canal, a matter of primary im portance, and which are a sine qua non to the canal. At Chagres, there is not siifficient depth J 4 of water, nor at Panama either, unless at high tide. But this tbe engineer has duly considered without doubt, and has found points where there is a sufficiency of water, or he would not have announced so unreservedly, that the canal is " a work of very pos'Blble execution." His letter I assume to have been written with refer ence to a ship canal. It is lime wasted to say much about one of any other description. A mere boSit canal would not be of much more general utility, than a good road from the river Chagres to Panama, which might be made at no great expense. A discussion ab6ul any kind of a canal except a maritime, I hold to be of no great interest to anybody but the Isth menians. The expense, delay and multitudi nous casualities that would attend the dis charge, transit and re-shipment of merchandise Would present insuperable difficulties to that mode of keeping up commercial intercourse with the East. A pamphlet of considerable length has been recently published at Panama, by a French man residing there, (M. Denain,) in which the subject of an artificial communication is discussed, and the writer decides unhesitating ly against a canal, and in favor of a good road to be constructed from sea to sea. And so far 1 think his opinion is correct. A canal is vastly preferable to be sure, but that cannot or will not be made. What is most desirable, there fore, must be abandoned or postponed, and that adopted which is practicable. A road would be of great use in the Isthmus, but I cannot suppose that it would ever realize the golden expectations of M. Denain, who is a little Utopian in his notions, as well as M. Cheva lier. He says, that a good road would in crease the value of the property in the Isth mus, to between four and five hundred millions •of dollars, which I will not contradict, but can not believe. I should be most happy to see or hear of this vast augmentation of wealth, yet I cannot be persuaded that the mere making of a road, though it were to be paved with bars of silver, as the streets of this city were in olden time, upon the arrival of a new viceroy, could produce this magical result, the silver not be ing taken into the account. But we live in an age of wonders, and M. Denain's predictions, couleur de rose, as they are, may one day be verified, and when they are, I shall be pre pared to doubt,, whether some of the gorgeous and dazzling and bewildering descriptions of wealth and magnificence, we meet with in the Arabian Nights, are quite the fictions they are generally considered by matter-of-fact persons to be. The Isthmus, with all its soil, and every species of property lo be found in it, real, per sonal and mixed, I cannot suppose to exceed in value forty or fifty millions of dollars, and this is to be decupled according to the sanguine and ingenious Frenchman, merely by making a road some twenty miles in length, which is not to cost I think, he says, more than two hundred thousand dollars. ' For three hundred years and more, the Isth mus has been the subject of almost incessant speculation. It commenced, I believe, with Hernan Cortez, who v^s at first confident that there must be a strait through it, having persuaded himself that the Almighty had not made a continent of such vast length, without leaving an opening between the two seas, and a similar notion prevailed to a great extent among the learned in Europe. (Prescott.) But the speculatists were wrong, as they often are. We have the continent 146 degrees in length— nearly ten thousand miles— but the great desideratum, the strait, we have not, and to makS an artificial one, is likely to puzzle the ingenuity of all Christendom. Sir Walter Raleigh said, that the Isth mus of Panama was " the keys of the world " ; and so it may have appeared to be in his day, when the doubling of the Capes of Good Hope and of Horn, were considered to be daring and perilous achievements. But now, that they are doubled every day, and by any kind of craft, and by any kind of a navigator, the importance of a passage through the Isthmus has been greatly diminished. flere I terminate for the present, and forever probably, my scribbling about a canal through the Isthmus, leaving to wiser heads and abler pens, the further discussion of the subject. With great respect, Yours truly, J. C. PICKETT. Francis Markoe, Jr., Esq., Cor. Sec. of the Nat. Institute. ANCIENT RUINS IN PERU. LIMA, October 10, 1843. Dear Sir: I now enclose to ybu the origi nal and translation of a letter lately published, from Judge Nieto to the Prefect of the Depart ment of the Amazon, in which he describes some very extensive and interesting rhins In the province of Chachapoyas. This province is about two hundred and fifty miles to the north of Lima, and about two hundred and fifty from the coast, and is looked upon here as being rather remote ; is not very populous, and not much known to the inhabitauts of the me tropolis. The official station of Judge Nieto, who ap pears to be an intelligent man, and of some reading, (learned, it may be,) is a sufficient guaranty, I suppose, that he has intended to describe what he has seen, faithfully and accu rately ; yet his description, and particularly the beginning of it, appears to me to be rather confused and unsatisfactory. I canjiot but believe that he has exaggerated considerably the* height of tbe edifices he visited, which it was rather natural to do, unless he had actually measured them ; and this he does not seem lo have done. I think, too, that he has used the word circumference for contents. But, sup posing this to be the case, still there can be no doubt that the ruins are gigantic and curious, of unknown origin, and of unknown destina tion, unless they were intended for cemeteries or fortresses, as the Judge conjectures, but which does not seem to be as yet very clearly proven, though that they were intended for one or the other I think probable. But, being on a scale of great magnificence and extent, it is rather difficult lo believe that that country could ever have been so populous as to require such extraordinary structures for the reception of the dead. Yet it may have been,, for evidence enough is found in many parts of America to prove that regions now desert and desolate, once teemed with a dense, a busy, and perhaps a happy population ; and this may have been the case In Chachapoyas, some centuries ago. Judge Nieto, not satisfied With describing wfiat he had seen, indulges in system-making, and at the close of his letter announces his theory, which is, that America is the " old world with respect to the other parts of it," and that Babylon, Balbec, &c., were modern compared to the people that once inhabited Chachapoyas. In support of this theory he embodies a variety of facts, as he considers, them, more or less plausible— some unques- tionablej some hot very well established, some not of much force, and others, apparently, rather in his favor. 1 admire the boldness of the Judge and commend his enthusiasm, but am not able to adopt his conclusions, though I would ^willingly do so, for I too indulge a little of that continental pride, if il can be so called, which leads me to wish to see il proven that America is really the "old world," and the land that first enjoyed the blessings of civilization. 1 fear though that this cannot be established, and that an impartial exami nation of the subject must lead to admissions not very favorable to a high antiquity. I propose to consider Judge Nieto's arguments somewhat at length, but not in the spirit of controversy, for my feelings are with him, though my judgijient compels me to dissent from the views he has taken of this very in teresting subject. The hair on the heads of the infant skele tons was short, fine, the Judge says, and unlike that of the Indians of the present day. This proves but little. Time and circnm- stances may have changed the original color of the hair. The Spani^ word for the color is rubio, Which is not very definite, for it is used for a variety of hues, more or less reddish or fair. Short and fine it was, of tourse, as the hair of an Indian infant is. Should hair of this description be found on the skulls of the skeletons of adults, so uniformly as to show that that kind of hair belonged to the race, then the argument would have weight; but if found only in a few instances it would be entitled to none, for -the Albinos have white hair or wool, and Catlin found in the "Far West " a young Indian woman whose hair was naturally, or rather preternaturally, white. The Judge assumes that the ancient articles of gold and silver of elegant workmanship which are discovered from time to time, as well as the hard precious stones, could not have been .executed without instruments of iron and steel, which were absolutelj- unknown to the Indian aborigines of Peru, as I believe, and as is generally believed. II is true that ancient articles of gold and silver, and of curi ous and elaborate workmanship, are sometimes found, and also that hard stones, emeralds, tur quoises, and rock crystal, (there were no others,) were cut and fashioned in various ways. The question is, could these articles- have been produced without the use of iron and steel? The Judge maintains that they could not be ; 1 entertain a diiferent opinion » 16 I do not pretend locite as conclusive the au thority of the Spanish authors, who wrote about Peruvian affairs soon after the conquest. Al though they all, I believe, favor the opinion that the articles in question were the work of the race of people found in Peru by the Spaniards, and say Ihat iron aud steel were unknown, and express their wonder how such curious things could be made without them. But these writers, though indifferently honest, and in many respects authentic, were credu lous, not very acute, with a propensity, with out knowing it, to exaggerate, and withal bigot ed and superstitious, and would not have dared to start any theories that, like Judge Nieto's, might have made the new world just discovered more ancient than Ihe old, for they had the fear of the Inquisition before their eyes. It is known that the natives of this conti nent, before the arrival of the Spaniards, in place of iron and steel, used obsidian, flint, cop per, and a mixture of copper and tin, and with these, and with much perseverance and inge- nuity in .the use of them, it appears to me that nothing that is antique has yet been discov ered that may not have been produced with out the agency of iron, from such vast edi fices as exist in Central America, Yucatan, and Chachapoyas, down to the gold and silver tweezers sometimes found not weighing more than a five cent piece. In working gold and silver there would be no difficulty, and the hard stones, emeralds. See, hff allowing time, patience, and some ingenuity, present none that is insuperable. We know that some arts, more curious than useful, have been lost in Europe and Asia, and it does not appear to me to be a very violent supposition that the an cient Peruvians might have possessed a method of cutting and polishing precious stones not now known, and perhaps never to be. The solution of this difficulty, which I now offer, is greatly strengthened I think by an ar gument which does not appear to have been sufficiently considered by those who maintain that the ancient works could not have been executed without the use of iron and steel — which is, the little value of time to the ancient indigens. This I deduce from well establish ed facts as a strictly logical inference. I speak only of Peru, but what I say will apply, per haps, to every country in America, where an- tiquitiss are to be met with. The Government of the Incas, though in many respects paternal and just, was nevertheless sternly despotic. The Inca, the monarch was not only the pater patria, but was also the absolute owner of the soil and of every thing on il — of all the men, all the women, and all the chattels; and this not in the feudal sense, as lord paramount, but as a planter owns the slaves belonging to his plan tation, and indeed his ownership was still more absolute. Whether this unlimited power was abused or not, dep'ended entirely on the per sonal character of the sovereign. Humboldt, speaking of the Inca government, says that it produced " general comfort and but little pri- " vate happiness ; there was more submission '« to the will of the sovereign than love of coun. "try; passive obedience, without courage for "bold undertakings; and the founder of the "empire of Cuzco (Manco Capac) in flatter- "ing himself that he could force men to be "happy, reduced them to the condition oi sim- "ple machines."* This is rather a sombre picture.. , . , In a country with such a government, wluctl was generally as mild and indulgent, hovvever, as the institutions permitted the sovereign to be, and with a crowded population, I suppose thai labor must have been very abundant and very cheap, and (hat a mechanic could afford to dedicate months or even years to a piece of work that would now be executed in a, day or two. It is further to be considered, that ac cording to the instituiions, all luxyry was al- , most entirely banished by sumptuary laws rig. idly enforced, and the utmost simplicity was practised in every thing— particularly in food and clothing. With such a polity, in a mild climate, without winter (as known to us) and with fertile soil, with no literature, and lillle or nothing to minister intellectual occupation, time could have been of but little value to those who disposed of it as a marketable com modity, and to others of less. In China, ser vants can be had for fifty cents per month. 'Vere it possible to institute a comparison, I think it would appear that wages were still , lower in ancient Peru. If I am not wrong in my reasoning, there is no necessity for assuming the existence of a race distinct from or superior to that which, occupied this countryt^at the time of its con quest by the Spaniards. I suppose that if the Inca chose to do so he could have kept one- tenth of the whole population of Peru con stantly employed ; and that vast numbers were employed, the edifices, roads, and very exten sive works for irrigating the soil found by the Spaniards, were visible and unquestionable, proofs- In an ancient wall at Cuzco, there are rocks, which, judging from their dimensions, do not weigh less probably than two hundred tons. And some of these rocks, Garcilaso dc la Vega says, were brought three or- four leagues, and conveyed across a river. How would it be possible for a people ignoiant of almost all mechanical contrivances to perform such a labor, but by the application of physi cal force instead of mechanical skill ? And that force was without doubt applied. Garcilaso relates that on one occasion, one of these huge rocks broke loose from its fastenings aiid crushed four thousands persons, and though I think the number exaggerated, still the fact goes to prove that vast numbers of persons were employed in those great works which now astonish the beholder and tempt him to exclaim, " There were giants in those days I" No. There were no giants, but an in finity of human machines directed by one iron will ; and wherever these structures are found I consider them to be proo& pregnant and de cisive of two things ; that at the time they were erected, there existed a dense population, and ' a severe and despotic government. We are in the habit of regarding the pyramids of Egypt * Le fondateur de TEmpire^ du Cuzco, en se flattant de pouvoir forcer les hommes a etre heureux les avail reduits a I'etat de simples machines. 17 as monuments of a great and enlightened peo ple, when they are in truth, I suppose, nothing more than monuments of the despotism and cruelty of the Egyptian kings. We are aston ished at the gigantic and imposing magnitude of these structures— think of the forty centu ries that have passed over them, and give but little thought tn the oppreifsed and miserable multitudes that erected them. The Thames tunnel, subterranean and subfluvial as it is, is a much nobler monument, in my opinion, than all the pyramids and all the obelisks of Egypt together. And the Croton Aqueduct that sup plies the city of Jfew Yoik with water, is a still greater and more useful work. Judge Nieto argues that the,inhabitants of Chachapoyas could have had no motive for erecting the fortress, as he calls it at the close of his letter, on account of their pacific char acter; and that from Tupac Yupanqui, Ihe conqueror of the country, nntil the coming of the Spaniards, there was no time to build it, and •hat there were no materials. This, I must say, is taking but a very partial view of the matter. There is no historical authority, I believe, that goes to show certainly that the fortress, if one, was built in the time of the Incas, or that it was not. It .might have been erected by them, or it might have been before they conquered Chachapoyas ; for Garcilaso expressly says, that when Yupanqui invaded the country, the inhabitants defended themselves courageously, and that they had many fortresses occupying strong positions which he found it difficult to reduce. They at length submitted, being over powered, "fhey rebelled against Hutana Capac, as the Judge states, but being abandon ed by their allies, they thought it more prudent to implore the sovereign's clemency than to engage in a hopeless contest; for, left as Ihey were alone, the conflict would have been about as equal as if the State of Delaware should make war upon all the other States ol the Union. The Chachas, as they were called, might have been turbulent and rebellious subjects ; but I do not think there exists any reason lor suppo-'ing that they were such blustering braggarts as the Judge represents them to be. Garcilaso, from whom he takes tbe story of the interces sion of the matron (who had been a chere amie of Yupanqui) in their behalf, does not give them this character. On the contrary, he says they were brave and warlike. According to aiv old Spanish author, the word Chachapoyas, or roore correctly, Cha- chapuyas, signifies the place of strong men. Whether this name bears any relation to the character of the people or not is uncertain; but there can be 'no doubt (hat the Chachas were a superior race to the nations or tiibes in their vicinity, and, as they understood and practised the art of constructing fortified places not easily taken, it is not illogical to suppose that they were in some degree civiliz ed before their incorpoiation with the Peruvian empire ; that they had a knowledge of the mechanical arts as then practised, and that they were the architects of the" edifice described by ¦Judge Nieto ; and their seems to be no neces sity whatever for supposing it to be a monu ment of a "great and enlightened nation that occupied the territory," and that had " declin- 3 ed as Babylon, Balbec and the Syrian citiei had done." INJy opinion, is, that that great and enlightened nation, supposed to be acquainted with iron and steel, was no other than the Chachas, who had not deteriorated when dis covered by the Spaniards, but had made some further advances in civilization, perhaps, after building the fortress, cemetery or temple, or whatever it may be, in consequence of their union with the Peruvians. There is another argument (whether over looked, heretofore, or not, I do not know) which militates stiongly against the idea of the existence of that great and enlightened nation, familiar with the' use of iron and steel, to whose agency is ascribed the remarkable and' magnificent ruins that are found on this conti nent, and which it is at once both natural and pleasing to assign a very remote antiquity. This is, that the manufacture of iron is an art at once so useftil and simple, that if once known, it is scarcely possible it could be lost. The people possessing it might decline, re lapse, it might be, into barbarism — lose many arts, but one so indispensable (now considered to be) both to the savage and civilized man, could not be lost, it seems to me, by any other means than by the sudden and total annihila tion of the race. That any such catastrophe has taken place, there is no reason lo believe, and it appears to me that the art of manufac turing iron, if once known and extensively practised, as it must have been, if practised at all by the ancient inhabitants of South Ameri ca, would have been almost in as little danger of being lost, as the art of cooking food. To this I add, that I believe it certain that not the slightest trace of iron instruments has been dis covered at any time, by any person, among the ancient ruins — not an atom of the metal, nor even i. particle of rust, to indicate its exist ence ; which, superadded to the fact, that all the authors, ancient and modern, say that iron was unknown to the natives at the arrival of the Spaniards, is sufficient to warrant the con clusion, that it had never been known in the country. Kjempfer supposes that the Japa nese possess the art of hardening copper, so as to make it supply the place of iron. I doubt this ; but if such an art exists now, or ever did exist, and was known to the ancient inhabi tants of this continent, many difficulties would be removed. I cannot believe, though, that it was known to them. Had it been, I cannot suppose that it would have been lost. All this being considered, it appears to me, that there is nothing to support Judge Nieto, in the opinion that the edifice he describes, was erected by a very ancient people acquainted with iron and steel. 1 must believe that the opinion expressed by Mr. Stephens, in his valuable and interesting works, in which he describes the ruins of Palenque and of Yuca tan, is the correct one — that " they (the ruined "cities) are not the works of a people who " have passed away, and whose history is lost, " but of the same races who inhabited the " country at the time of the Spanish conquest. "or of some not very distant progenitors ;'• and the facts and arguments adduced by him. in support of this opinion, seem to roe to bs conclusire. The present degraded and wretch- 18' e4 condition of the Indians proves nothing but that the Spaniards carried out most effectually their atrocious policy, which was to make of ihem hewers of wood and drawers of water with the least delay — to convert thein from in- ilependent, rational beings, into stupid, passive machines; aud the object was accomplished wilh surprising celerity. Within less than half a century after the Spaniards had conquered the country, the condition of the aborigines was more deplorable, if possible, than at the present day. it would seem that such an astonishing metamorphosis would be impossible, supposing them to be tlie descendants, not veiy far re moved, of those who built the ruined cities. i>ut it might be so, for never were conquerors more successful in obliterating the national aud individual character ofthe conquered than Ihe Spaniards. They did not want lo make of their vassals, either cilize.is or subjects, but slaves, and they made them so by a very com pendious process — by condemning them to in cessant labor, and by proscribing all the laws, customs, usages and religious, rites that were calculated to foster in the slightest degree the sentiment of nationality. The South American Indians are not the only people who have undergone such an extraordi nary transformation, 'i'he Copts ofthe present day are the decendants of the ancient Egyp tians, and the Egyp'tian Arabs of those who conquered the country in the name of Ma homet. But the most striking example is that of the modern Greeks. WhO' could have sup posed, but for the irrefragable atlestatious of history, that, after submitting to the brutal and fanatical Turk, they were descended from those who ibughf at Salamis and Marathon? It is true, they had begun lo degenerate before con quered by the Turks, but that conquest alone accounts for their rapid declension. The absence of tradition among the Indians in relation to their former status is very satis- lactorily accounted for by Mr. Stephens. In that respect they do not differ from other com munities in the same situation. There is but little tradition among any of the indigenous races that have been reduced (reducido, an ex pressive Vi'ord) by the Spaniards, though some of them have had abundant materials for very glorious and inspiring traditions. Such are the Mexicans, the Yucatecos, the Palenquenos, the Peruvians, and the Bogotanos. A state of abject slavery is decidedly unfavorable to the transmission of traditionary loie; and no nation, I think, has ever been very traditional in its character unless it has enjoyed a consid erable degree of freedom — individual, if not political — nor unless it bas been somewhat in- ttlleciual and imaginative, (with or without literature;) nor unless it has claims (founded or unfounded) toglorious achievements in war. In their most palmy days the Indians in, ques tion may not have abounded much in tradition, or, if they did abound in it, that they should have forgotten it in three hundred years, en slaved, oppressed, and; crushed as they have been, is certainly not astonishing. It would rather be if they had not. The Araucanians, immortalized by Ercilla in his poem, have tra- dition.s, and well they may have, for they re sisted, and successfully, all attempts by the Spaniards to su-bjugate tbem for more than two hundred years, and were not content to act oi» the defence merely, but were often the- assail ants, and with signal success sometimes. But, should, this indomitable race be reduced to slavery, dnd continue enslaved for three cen'- turies, it is highly probable that at the end oK that period their traditions, as well as every trace of the bold and independent character for which they are distinguished, would be utterly and irretrievably lost. Hence I conclude that certain favorable cir cumstances are essential to the existence of much tradition among a people, and that under very adverse circumstances ihey may soou be forgotten in a country where there are no col lateral records, and where the art of writing was unknown, or very imperfectly practisecl, as among the Indians of Ibis continent; for the picture-writing of Mexico must have been veiy defective, and from its nature diflicult of at tainment. Judging from the inscriptions dis covered in Central America and Yucatan, it may be supposed that those who made thein possessed something like the ait of writing; but it must have been, I think, very imper fect. But this is only conjectural, — the art, if known, may have been a very difficult one, and known to but few, probably, as the school master was not abroad in those days. Tbe guipos orquipus in Peru were still more defective than the others, it may be presumed. These, as is well known, were nothing more than knots, as is the meaning of the word, tied with cotton threads of different colors; and the whole process was strictly conventional, there being no way of expressing an idea that had not its predetermined sign. The guipus were used for keeping all the public accounts, births, deaths, receipts at ths treasury, (not in money but in kind,) &c., and the annual report of the Secretary of the Treasury must have been a very curious document, and sometimes, per haps, i. skein rather difficult to unravel. Bift it must be said for the Peruvians, in the time ofthe Incas, that their probity has not probably been exceeded by that of my other people, ancient or modern. Among their public men, fraud, peculation, embezzlement, and bribery seem to have been unknown ; and this is in part to be accounted for from the nature ofthe institutions, and partly from the fact that there fiyaa no money, that root and origin of all evil. The Quipucainayus (keepers of the knots) were the scribes and historiographers, and also the auditors and comptrollers. They attained to great dexterity in their art, and could record and recite \yith. surprising rapidity, and adjust accounts with undeviating accuracy ; but they could not go far beyond this. Some events of a very iniportjnt nature conld be recorded, such as embaSies, battles, &c., because tbe colors, number of knots, &c. lo be used had been pre viously determined ; but it was impossible to write a letter, however brief it might be, unless the quipus and the key had been concerted as in the use of the cipher. The Inca, therefore, when he wished lo send an order to any part ¦of- his dominions, employed messengers to whom M was given verbally. These were called chasquis, and were stationed constantly on .the highways, onc-tburth of a league apart ; 19 and as they were swift of foot, and the messages being very brief generally, they were convey ed with considerable rapidity, faster than by a mail coach ; but It is probable that serious blun ders were sometimes committed, for, in trans mitting an order one hundred miles, it had to be repeated by 130 persons. But few, I fancy,have perused Mr. Stephens's very interesting volumes with more pleasure than myself, and, sensible of their merit as I am, I will venture a slight criticism on one passage, conscious that I do so in no, cynical spirit. In his work on Yucatan, I understand him as rather persisting in the idea, which he pretty distinctly favors in his first volumes, that there is, somewhere about the southern parts of Mexico, embowered in the wilderness, an indigenous people, never known to tho Span iards, retaining its primitive characteristics, and among whom, are those who can read tbe inscriptions at Palenque. Such is the idea, and it ia certainly a very romantic and capti vating one, loo much so to be lightly surren dered were there any facts, or even probabili ties to support it ; but in my opinion, unfortu- In 1838, not far from ¦Quito, a tolerably inle- ligent person showed me a very lofty moun tain at the distance of twelve or fifteen miles, which he assured me was nearly ail siUfr, but that it was inaccessible on account nf its steep ness. Credulity, however, in relation to mines of gold and silver is not peculiar to South America. The universal belief in Ihe El Dorado, which had a thousand local habitations, vvas one cause why the country was traversed in all directions, for no impediment could arrest the explorers. Whoever has travelled much among the Andes, unless " native heie and to the manner born," cannot fail to be surprised to find that certain regions have been visited, explored, and tra velled over for hundreds of years, which ono woald be inclined to think would have been perfectly impenetrable. I have travelled five days at a lime among the Andes without seeing a human creature, except those wilh me, and along a track (not a road) which, for the most pan, serpentized over almost perpendicular precipices, or through a forest literally impervious, except natelv there are none. The inscriptions, il is I by cutting one's way at every step. Provi . -* ™ . .1 , _ _1 rril -;_., 1..~n....>» nr..l o,..,.,,. fl-,;..^. . .- n .. .. ..^-..^n.) n . to be feired, will never be read. They are a sealed book, I apprehend, to all living men. Upon them the genius and perseverance of a ChampoUion would be lost ; and it is but too certain, I think, that all those who understand them have past away forever. The idea of this undiscovered nation origin ated, if I mistake not, in a legend related to Mr. Stephens by a priest whombe met in Cen tral America, a poition -of which was clearly preposterous, and which the good father him self did not believe, I suppose, any more than Mr. S. But if the remainder were true, it shows that the existence of that sequestered people must have been known to the Spaniards, probably ; and if it had been, there could have been no escape fsom their ferocity and avarice : " Fire and sword were in their hands, and in theil' hearts Were machinations for speeding of destruc tion.^' Ever stimulated by the sacra anri fames, they were intimidated by no dangers, arrestedi,by no •obstacles. There were no barriers that they did not overcome, no fastnesses that they did not penetrate. Had such a people existed, they ¦would have been discovered ; and had they been discovered, they would have been sub jugated. Much of Spanish America is rough, rugged, mountainous country, but, notwithstanding, it was penetrated and explored in all directions soon after the conquest, either by armies, de tachments, and parties, cr by adventurous in dividuals ; some to make discoveries, some to make conquests, all hoping to find gold, and not a few expressly in search el the fabulous El Dorado, for the belief in the existence of that golden country was universal, and to this day that belief still exists, though somewhat denuded of its extravagance. There are yet people who believe devoutly in mines and mountains of the precious metals, enough to enrich the world if they could but be lound. sion, luggage, and every thing '^^ere carried on men's backs, and my saddle-horse was a stout mulatto, (part Indian,) whom I occasionally mounted when tired of walking. I felt at first a decided repugnance to this sort of equitation, and could not think of using a fellow-being ad a beast of btirden ; but the necessity of the case and the custom ofthe coun'ry ^ot the better ef my scruples, as they had of those of more con scientious men, no doubt; and as the sillero, (chairman,) as he was called, told me it was hij occupation to carri/ Christians over the moun tains and solicited the job, I struck a bargain with him, and the price was ten dollars ilirough, I riding about half the time;, This quadrupedal biped, if so he may be called, turned out to be a very sure-footed and trusty animal, and car ried me in perfect safety to the end of the route. The modus equitandi is Ihis ; Instead of a saddle a very light cane chair is used, which the chairman slings upon his back, and the traveller's face, when seated in it, is to the north, sliould he be going to the south, and vice versa. It is necessary that, when mounted, he should keep himself very accurately bal anced, for there are many places in passing which a false step on the part of the sillero might cause a tumble down a precipice, which would be fatal both to the rider and to the ridden. I have indulged in this digression for the purpose of showing what sort of regions are to be met with in the Andes, and that, repulsive and inhospitable as they are, they have been penetrated and explored hundreds of years ago, which makes it very improbable, it appears to me, that there can be any tribe or nation of aborigines not yet discovered— at all events, between Mexico and the Isthmus of Panama. If not found by any of the numerous explora tory expeditions set on foot by the Spaniards, still it seems to me that in the course of three hundred years it must have happened Ihat some straggling white man or Indian would have reached them. ao Of the legend related to Mr. Stephens, I have to say that it appears to me to be all pure invention from beginning to end. One of my reasons for believing this 'is, that, in many countries, the same kind of fables have had currency and have found believers. Seventy or eighty years ago it was believed in England by many that there existed in Wales an an cient Danish colony pursuing the "even tenor of its way," secluded from all the rest of the world, and preserving unadulterated ils an cient language, customs, and laws. In Spam, one hundred years ago, the belief was general that there was somewhere in that kingdom a ,,-..,. eolonv of the same description, (except that i life are his biographers, and to palliate their they were not Danes,) of very high antiquity, own violent and bloody domgs it was neces- The Inca's issue, however numerous it may be, was all regarded as royal-— legitimate ami illegitimate. It followed, therefore, that there must have been a great number of royal ex traction, and such was the fact. It was, there fore, not a very easy matter for the Spaniards to destroy them, though they destroyed a great many — many mole no doubt than the Spanish writers admit, for they shift to the Inca Ata hualpa the odium of having attempted to ex tirpate the whole race after his successful war against his brother Huascar. But he has had no indigenous historian and no apologist. Those who robbed him ofhis crown and ofhis and' called Las Baluecas. Nobody had visited the colony, or could give its locus in quo, but nevertheless its existence was not doubted; and so general was the pre|)Osterous idea that the celeorated Feijoo wrote a dissertation for the express purpose of proving that no such community had ever existed or could exist without being known. To these instances I will add that, in the United Slates, about thirty years ago, it was more or less believed that somewhere on the Upper Missouri there was a race of white men— known or supposed to be Welshmen — ^which turned out to be the Mandan nation, I believe, now extinct, or nearly so, by the ravages of the small pox. I will here observe, though rather out of place, that in Peru traditions appear to have been rather better preserved among the Indians than in Central America, Yucatan, and else where; and this is very easily accounted for: their history is not very ancient, and so extra ordinary a Government as that of the Incas must have left traces and impressions not easily effaced ; but still they would have been, proba bly, but for peculiar circumstances, and such as have perhaps no parallel in America. As I have already said, the Inca was the owner of all his subjects, and exercised an absolute jus sary lo describe him as a monster, and they have done so. He was, perhaps, a bad and cruel man, as well as a usurper; but those who have handed him down to posterity as such were far from being pure themselves, and were certainly not impartial. The princes of the royal blood being so nu merous, it was difficult to destroy them all, and all were riot destroyed; and there being a ral lying point for the Indians in the successors of the Incas, they frequently attempted to throw ott' the Spanish yoke, always without success, but they made some desperate struggles, the last between sixty and seventy years ago. Thus the tradition of the ancient empire, of its great ness and glory, was not lost, though it has faded into a very obscure and confused recol lection of things past, which will a century hence be entirely obliterated, probably. This view of the subject appears to be plau sible at least, if not entirely satisfactory, and I venture to advance the opinion, by way of hy pothesis, that it will be found, upon close in quiry, that throughout Spanish America, among all the indigenous nations or tribes who retain no traditions of their former political condition, the royal or reigning families have been de stroyed simultaneously with or soon after the dominii without limitation or control, over conquest, or shorn of their greatness, and so males and females ; and, as regards the latter, this right does not seem by any means to have been merely a nominal one, for almost all the Incas had very numerous families of children — one of them, Huayna Capac, left at his death between five and six hundred sons and daugh ters; It is proper to remark, enpassant, that it was a maxim of the Government, sanctioned or submitted to by the people, that it was pro motive of the public weal that the royal stock should be propagated as widely as possible ; which, as it was considered to be of Divine origin, was a very natural idea, and conde scension on the part of a lady, in this case, was neither injurious to her character nor offensive to her family: yet adultery was punished by the laws with great severity, with this excep tion. We may judge from this that the Incas were adepts in kingcralt, and that by virtue of tbeir Divine right they had 'at tbeir discretion all tbe wives and daughters in their empire, as they bad incontestably. That most subtle and most successful of all impostors, Mahomet, in culcated a similar dogma with respect to him self, but he was rather more moderate than «ome of the locas. confounded with the common herd that they ceased to be recognisable. I speak of such as may be supposed to have bad traditions. To this it may be added, that the Spaniards sometimes intermarried with the royal add noble dames of Peru, soon after Ihe conquest, and this contributed to save the descendants of the Incas from utter extirpation. My speculations upon the matters touchei in the foregoing remarks have led me to the following conclusions : 1- That iron and steel bad never been known in South America before the arrival of the Spaniards. 2. That all the ruins, structures, ornaments, &c. that have been discovered, have been erected or made without tools of those metals. 3. That the ruins in Chachapoyas are the works of the Chachas, before they were con quered by Tupac Yupanqui, or of the Incas themselves — most probably of the former. 4. That Mr.- Stephens's opinion, that the " ruined cities are the works of the same races " who inhabited the country at the time of the " Spanish conquest, or of some not very dis- " tant progenitors," is correct. 21 5. That it is not probable there exists an un discovered people iu Mexico or Central Amer ica, or elsewhere, capable of reading the in scriptions at Palenque — or an undiscovered peo ple of any kind, unless it may be some poor paltry tribe not worth discovering. 6. That there have been discovered no ruins or monuments on the American continent, whose age may not be within one thousand years. Such as are known not to go beyond tour or five hundred years, as at Cuzeo, seem to be as ancient (I believe) as any, except, .perhaps, one rui:i inTMexico and one in Bo livia, (Upper Peru.) I now conclude, having no apology to offer for this very long and rambling letter, except the interesting subjects which I have so im perfectly discussed in it. I am, with much respect, your obedient ser vant, J. C. PICKETT. Francis Markoe, jr.. Esq,, Cor. Secretary of National Institute. Province op Chachapoyas, CuELAp, January 31, 1843. To tlie Prefect of the Department : Sir: Having come into this country of Cue- lap to make the survey commanded by the Su preme Government of the Republic, I h-dve discovered a work most worthy of the public attention, which is a wall of hewn stone 560 feet in width, 3,600 feet in length, and 150 feet high. This edifice being solid in the interior for the whole space contained wilhin 5,376,000 feet of circumference, which it has, to the be fore-mentioned height of 150 feet, is solid and levelled, and upon it there is another wall ot 300,000 feet in circumference in this form, 600 feet in length, and 500 in breath, with the same elevation (150 feet) of the lower wall, and, like it, solid and level to the summit.* In this elevation, and also in.that of the lower wall, are a great many habitations or rooms of the same'hewn stone, 18 feet long and 15 wide, and in these rooms, as well as between the di viding walls of thp great wall, are found neatly constructed niches a yard or two- thirds in length, and a half yard broad and deep, in which are found bones of the ancient dead, some naked and some in cotton shrouds or blankets of very firm teiture, though coarse, and all Worked wilh borders of different colors. These niches differ from those in our pantheons (cemeteries^ in nothing but their depth, for, instead of being two or three yards deep, which is necessary to keep our bodies in the erect position in which they are placed after death, they (the ancients) employed only two or three feet, because they were doubled up so that the chin and knee met, and the hands were inter laced with the feet like a human foetus of four months. The wall about three doors that have been discovered, deserves attention. At the right of * This description is not very intelligible, and is probably inaccurate. What the writer means by 5,376,000, and 300,000 feet in cir cumference, does not seem to be very clear. Perhaps he means contents. each ofthe doors it is semi- circular, and at tho left angular; and at the base commences an inclined plane which continues tn ascend almost insensibly to the before-mentioned height of 150 feet, with tlie peculiarity that about half way there is a turret (garita;*) thence it pro ceeds, losing its straightforward direction with which it commenced, making a curve to the light of those ascending, havii.g in the upper p irt a recess curiously constructed ofthe same hewn stone, from which all entry may be pre vented, because those doors at the lower part outside the wall, commencing vvith only six feet of width, have in the superior anterior part only two feet. At the summit there is a pavilion or belvidere, from which may be seen not only the Whole of ihe plain below and all the lagoons, but likewise a considerable part of the province, and as far as the capital, which is eleven leagues distant. Next present themselves the entrances to the second and highest wall, equal in all respects lo the first; and they are of smaller dimensions in length and breadth only, but'not in height, as I have already said. There are also other se pulchres resembling small ovens, six feet high, and irom twenty to thirty in circumference; on the base of each of which there is a slab, and on that slab a human skeleton. Having examined these things yesterday, I retired with the crowd that accompanied me to take some repose, and to~Jay we ascended to the summit of a rock outside the wall which serves it for a foundation, and having passed by a road almost destroyed by the water, ex posing ourselves to the hazard of a chasm, which threatene4 us, and which is nearly 900 feet deep, and supporting ourselves mutually, we reached a cavity formed by the ro'cks which originate in the mountain, to which there are ten heaps of human hones, perfectly preserved in their shrouds, one of wnich, an aged man, was Wrapped in a hair cloth, which I have pre served with the skeleton. The other, which was probably a woman, in consequence of the separation of the bone of a legand ofthe trunk from the head, was spoiled. The woman was old when she died, her hair being gray, and was, without doubt, the mother of seven chil dren that composed seven of the heaps, two of which I have in my possession, aud two of which were carried away by Don Gregorio Rodriguez, one of the company, together with a shroud of cotton of various colors, and a ban dage worked with different colors, three of the skeletons of the children and one of the adult persons being left behind in consequence of the ligaments of the bones having giving way. AH had invariably the same posture, and the hair of their llittle heads was fine, short, and reddish, (rubio,) and unlike that of the aborigines of our day. The female had her ears pierced, and in them a cotton cord, twisted and thick. 1 have since regretted that I was not able lo continue my researches at that place, as I would probably have discovered much more; but we were obliged to separate, taking another direction for another spot, where, I was assured, there was much more to be seen. We de- t The word garita means a sentry-box, but the word does not suit the case. 2-2 scended on the side looking towards the north, and arrived at a very steep hill, which we as cended with great difficulty in consequence of its sleepness and ofthe dry grass with which it was covered, that caused ua to slip at every step. Having mounted up about 6O0 feet we found il impossible to go any iiirther, because of a perpendicular rock, whichjwould not per mit us to approach a wall of square stones, with small apertures like windows, that was distant from the point that could be reached about sixty t«et, and for want of time and a ladder we did not see what was contained within this wall, which occupies an elevation that looks towards the east, north, and west as far as tbe eye can reach. So I remained, with the mortification of not knowing anything about this work, aod of the fossils and precious things it encloses, for the reason that it is very precipitous, and the judicial duty in which I was engaged would not permit me to explore the centre; and, besides, I was unable to leave the capital for any length of time, where the administration of justice was suffering from my absence. And to these obstacles was to be added the impossibility of undertaking any work for want of assistance, as the Indians have a great horror of this place on account of the mummies it contains, which, in their opinion, produce fatal diseases, if touched, all fled panic-struck at the sight of them. With great exertions^ however, and upon see ing our familiarity with tlie bone", one or two of the most intelligent got the better of the fears with which an unlucky superstition had inspired them. For these reasons I was not able to explore the wall at the southeast side, where 1 was as sured there are some curiously formed ditches which cannot be approached from below, and one can reach them only by being let down with ropes from the tops of the walls. Nor could I visit a cave which Don Gregorio (a man of truth) assures me there is on the other side of the river Condechaca, where he says there are many skulls, pits, and otber objects, and, having penetrated it to the distance of two squares — about two hundred yards — the torches were extinguished for want of air, and he could go no further. Should time and the Government favor me further discoveries may be made. The ingenious and highly-wrought .speci mens of workmanship that are found as monu ments of the ancients, the elegance of the cut ting of some ofthe hardest stones, which could not be done without instruments of iron and steel, which were absolutely unknown to our ancestors, (the Indians,) the ingenuity and so lidity of this gigantic work — all of wrought alone — there being neither reason nor motive for the erection of this fortress, in consequence of the pacific character of the inhabitants ot these provinces, and of their remoteness Irom Ihe theatre of the war at the time of the con- quest, (by the Spaniards ;) the short time that intervened between the reign of Tupac Tupan- Bu'i, (an Inca,) the conqueror of the' regions, and the advent of the Spaniards ; his inability to furnish the materials for such a structure, or to find time to erect it, although the natives, it is said, were refractory, and that they rebelled against Huayna Capac , but their wars before they were incorporated with the government of the Incas were ridiculous and ephemeral, and their rebellion so transitory, that, so far from persisting in it, they implored pardon through the mediation of a matron, and ob tained it; the secure manner of inhuming the dead, the rich in niches of stone and the poor among the rocks, probably— all this induces me to believe that, although the wall 1 have so imperfectly described ma> not be of Ihe re motest antiquity — ot the epoch at which Peru and America were peopled by civilized na tions, from yvhich the Europeans borrowed the idea of the pantheons* they now use ; at all events, the elegant articles of gold and silver, the curiously wrought stones that have been found in the huacas,^ and many monuments and customs of our aborigines, have been taken, preserved, or tiansferred by a great and en lightened nation that occupied this territory, which declined in the same manner as others more modern, of which history informs us, as Babylon, Balbec, tbe cities of Syria, and others that have been destroyed, and remained in that state of isolation in which it was found by the great Manco, and consequently America" is an old world with respect to the other four parts that compose the globe, as I propose to demori- strate more at largean the statistics of the De partment that I am preparing with official and credible data, to which this note may serve as an appendix, and which I address lo you that you may transmit it to the President of the Republic in the usual way.f God preserve you ! JUAN CRISOSTOMO NIETO. * Cemeteries are called pantheons in South America, ¦f A huaca is a large quadrangular mound built of unburnt bricks, in which the ancient Peruvians deposited their dead. I I regret that it is not in my power to pub lish the foregoing letter in the original Span ish, which I cannot do, having no copy of it. The beginning of it is confused and unsatisfac tory, which may be in consequence of errors of the press, as the writernwas not at Lima when it was published. MAJOR JOHN ANDRE. LlMA, August 5, 1S44. Dear Sir: Looking over the poetical works of ItoBERr Southey not long ago, I noticed the ibilowing jiassage in the preface to Ma- Doc, which I had either not read before or had forgotten. Mr. S. says — "Miss Seward was not so much overrated " at one time, as she has since been unjustly " depreciated. She was so consideraible a per- "son when her reputation was at its height, '• that Washinoton said, that no circum- "stance of his life had been so mortifying to " him, as that of having been made the object " of her invective, in her Monody on Major " Andre. After peace had been concluded " between Great Britain and the United States, "he commisioned an jVmeiican officer, who "was about to sail for England, to call upon "her at Litchfield, and explain to her, that in- " .stead of having caused Andre's death, he " had endeavored to save him, and she was re- " quested to peruse the papers in proof of this, " which he sent for her perusal." ' They fill- " ed me with contrition,' says Miss Seward, " for the rash injustice of my censure." Now if, this incident in the life of General Washington, as related by Mn. Southey, on Miss Seward's authority, is an admitted historical fact, there is nothing more to be s,iid, though, I cannot but feel regret, that the Father of his Country should have stooped to justify himself to the most scurrilous and most men dacious of all his libellers at home or abroad, as undoubtedly was Miss Skward^. I cannot persuade myself, however, that be did this, for I have no recollection of liaving seen in any biography of him, or in any history of the Revolution, a statement ofhis having done so. It may have escaped me though, and here where books relating to the political history of our country are scarce, it is not in my power to satisfy myself on this point. I remember to have read the Monody, for the first and the last time, more than thirty years ago, when very young, and was so struck with the venom ofthe invective, and with the vigor of it too, as it then appeared to me, that some of the lines fastened themselves on my memo ry, where they yet remain. Among them are these : — " For cowards'only know. Persisting vengeance o'er a fallen foe." General Washington was the ' coward,' and A.VDRE the ' fallen foe.' And again :— " And infa'my with livid hand shall shed Eternal mildews o'er his ruthless head." The 'ruthless head' was Washington's.-— The poem abounds with figures and flowers in the same taste, and whatever may be now thought of then- poetic merit, the authoress, if yet living, might claim that of being able to put info as few lines, as much ribaldry, as any othSr English poet or poetess could, not ex cepting Mr. Southey himself, who had cer tainly a very pretty talent for billingsgate, as well as much other talent. 1 am not sure that since I read the Monody I have ever seen it, and I presume that it is not much read in Ihe United States at the present day, Or in England either, for even there, it would ntft now be considered very good taste, to speak of General Washington's ' ruth less head,' or to denounce him as a ' coward. He might have heard of the Monody, but in the absence of positive proof, I cannot be per suaded that he ever read it, or that being made the object of its invective, was to him tha " most mortifying circumstance ofhis life," or that he commissioned an American officer or any body else to make explanations to the au thoress, with the view of deprecating her wrath, and of conciliating her good opinion. He very rarely took the trouble to contradict the libels published against him at home, which more immediately concerned him, and were of" more serious import. It is not probable then, that his sensibility should have been so deeply wounded, as to induce him to get up a kind ot special mission, with the view of counteract ing an English libel, the most absurd and .^in famous of all the calumnies propagated against him. Or if he did, then on that one occasion^ the only one I believe — did his imperturable equanimity of character forsake him, and he, who has read the Monody, cannot be made to believe upon any thing less convincing than " proof of holy writ," that he ever commis sioned any person to make explanations to the reckless and unscrupulous authoress. This language is not too strong, for he is represent ed in the Monody to be vindictive, inexorable, bloody and remorseless ; and as being nothing better than the murderer of Andre. Nor is Miss Sewasd's reputation so immaculate, as to place her beyond the reach of an impeach ment, as a wilful and malignant prevaricator, for according to some of her English biogra phers, she was vain, affected, pedantic, much addicted to flattering those who loved flattery. nnd not by any means remarkable for a scrupu lous regard for truth. She flattered Southey very perseveringly, and he in return endeavor ed to save her poetical reputation from that ob livion, to which it had been consigned by the general consent of her countrymen. But still he says of her poetry, insinuating disp^arage- raent, that it belonged to the " brocade fashion" of Doctor Darwin. Doctor Darwin is an instance of thein-' stability and emptiness of poetical fame. Thirty or for-ty years ago, his poetry was as popular as Southey's has ever been, and thir ty or forty years hence, may again be so. ¦Though, now, condemned and neglected, and stigmatised as brocade, tinsel and mere sound, it was once extensively read and greatly ad mired by competent judges even, and after all, there is in it, unquestionably, much that is beau tiful, much originality and much elegant versi fication. It may seem in our day to be father monotonous, but it ought to be borne in mind, that it is the poetry of Scott, Byron! Southey and others ofthe new School, that has made it appear so, and the poetry of Dryden and Pope compared with theirs, has something of the same appearance. The following lines of Darwin [quoted from memory] ought to give bim some claim upon the indulgence of the readers of poetry in the United States . He is describing our Revolution : " With patriot speed the quick contagion ran, Hill lighted hill and man electrized man ; Her heroes slain, awhile-Columbia mourn'd. And crown'd with laurels. Liberty return'd." 1 return to General Washington. — It is true that he endeavored to save Andre, as Miss Seward says! Ought he to have en deavored to save him? It is my belief that he did not endeavor to save liim, and my conviction that he ought not to have done it. Mr. Sparks (Life of Washing ton) makes the following remark: — " As the guilty Arnold was the cause of all the evils* that followed an exchange of him for Andre would have been accepted ; but no such proposal was intimated by the Brit ish General, and perhaps it could not be con sistently done with honor and the course al ready pursued." This is very true. "It could not be done consistently wilh honor." Sir Henry Clinton by surrendering Arnold would have divided the rhfamy ofthe latter — so imperative are the usages of war, that in such cases the greatest * " As the guilty Arnold was the cause of all the evils that followed," &c. This, under one aspect may be true. Had Arnold not been wil ling to play the traitor, the evils would not have followed ; nor would they, had not Sir Hen ry Clinton been willing to purchase the traitor ; nor would they so as to affect Andre, had he not been willing to make himself the agent and go-between in the nefarious transac tion ; and never was any man more conapletely the artificer of his own ruin than he, unless it could be assumed that he was acting through out, in obedience to the orders of his superior, which he was bound to obey; but this, all military men and many that are not military, know, could not have buen the case. villains and traitors must be protecled. ^o proposition, it is to be presumed, therefore, was formally made to the British General to save Andre by sacrificing Arnold; nor could it, if made, have been lor a moment considered. In what way, ttien, did Gen. Wajhinoton en deavor to save Andre, as assumed by Miss Se ward ? This question I cannot answer other wise than by saying that I do not believe he made any eftbrt to save him ; for if he had made it, I must suppose that he would have been saved. If he had not Ihe power as commander- in-chief entirely to annul the sentence of tbe court-martial that condemned Andre to death, he could unquestionably have delayed the ex ecution of it until an application could have been made to higher authority on his behalf, which, supported by the solicitation of the commanding general, would almost certainly have been successful. But no such appeal was made, nor do I believe that it was proposed to make it. It is very singular and inexplicable, then, that with a disposition to save Andre, ac cording to Miss Seward, and able to array on the side of mercy an irresistible influence, he should have done nothing and proposed nothing calculated to benefit the prisoner, unless to in timate, perhaps, in an informal mannei, that Andre could be exchanged for Arnold. What inference is to be drawn from this apathy and inaction ? But one, it appears to me, and that is, that Washington neither made an effort to save Andre, or had for a moment any intention of making it. If there exists any thing like proof against this opinion, I am not aware oflt. Miss Seward's assertion I do not value at any thing; had she enjoyed a very high character even for veracity, 1 should doubt the accuracy of her statement, for in making it she was white-washing herself, as she was well aware, and not General Washington. Times had greatly changed, and men's opinions, too, since the Monody was written. Then much sympathy was felt for Major Andre, and Washington was naturally regarded by many as a rebel, and by some, probably, as a homi cide. But time that can do so much towards soothing resentments, softening asperities, and subduing animosities, had given him a very different standing with the English people, and it was evident even to Miss Seward her self that the ribaldries which she had poured out upon him sp profusely, no longer delighted either the vulgar by its brutality, or the refined by its poetical merit, if it had any. Then nothing was more natural than Ihat the poetess who lacked neither boldness nor ingenuity should resort to this method of retracting her libel ; or that Mr. Southey, one of whose most assiduous flatterers she was, should assist her to extricate herself, when it cost him nothing to do so, but to repeat what the had told him, believing or affecting to believe it himself. And hence her contrition, it appears lo me. Having assumed that Gen. WASHiNOToif did not endeavor to save Andre, 1 proceed to inquire whether he ought to have endeavored to save him, and unhesitatingly express the opinion that he ought not. There has been much pathetic eloqueuee expended upon Major Andre's case, and much 25 thetoiic— historical, political, and iniscella- newas— and to thi^ I have nothing to say, ex cept that some of it had better been omitted. I have to say, though, that all military history cannot furnish a case where a rigorous enforce ment of the laws of war was more justifiable or more expedient. The ground taken by Sir Henrt Clinton and some British writers, that Andre ought not to have been treated as a spy, because he had been brought within the American lines by an American officer, (Ar nold,) was manifestly absurd, and was finally abandoned by every body who had any preten sions to sanity. He was not only a spy, but Was moreover the correspondent and the ac complice of a traitor. And not only was he this, but he had been so deliberately and for a considerable time, whilst he and Arnold were corresponding under the assumed names of Gustavus and Anderson. Thus his labors as a spy were not merely a single hasty and u,oconsiaered act, but were cool, continuous, systematic, and persevering. The plan being matured, and the time having arrived for action, he, " nothing loth," was selected from many hundreds of British officers at New York, to give the finishing stroke to the diabolical plot that had been so long iu or under concoction. He meets Arnold, coquettes a little about en tering the American lines and about assuming a disguise; but he enters the one and assumes the other. Every thing was arranged, the treason was consummated, and nothing re mained to be done but to deliver the fortress, (We^t Point,) and with it the whole patriot <-ause,, perhaps, into the hands of the British commander. He whose sensibility and deli cacy recoiled from the concealment of his military rank under a civic garb, had no mis givings, no " compunctious visitings" about the black and damnable treason he was abet ting, or the clandestine and unchivalrous manner in which the negotiation had been con ducted. He sets out on his return to New York, buoyant without doubt with self-gratu- lation at the successful issue of his intrigue, and revolving in his mind the applause and the recompense that awaited him. But there was a lion in his path. He was stopped by three militia men, and if it be not presump tuous to suppose that Providence interposed on the occasion, it may well be believed that those tbree incorruptible patriots had appeared by supertiatural appointment at the time and the place for the express purpose of saving the American cause, and they s»ved it. Bribes were offered without stint, if they would let him pass — gold, valuables, promises of large rewards — but in vam. 'They were deaf to every thing but honor and duty ; the spy was captured, aod the traitor would have been had Colonel Jameson's sagacity been equal to his uprightness and good intentions. But it was impossible for him to suspect Arnold, I sup pose ; and, indeed, a man who had fought so gallantly and bled so freely for his country, was above suspicion until guilt was brought home to him. Major Andre has been much lauded by the liiihistorians ofthe Revolution, for the frankness, "dignity, and fifmness he displayed after his cap ture, and I am not disposed to deny that he did 4 display them ; but at the same time it seemj to me that policyidictated the course he pursued subsequently, as much as frankness and detes tation of disguise. Some say that his being entrapped by his captors, who represented themselves to be royalists, is a proof of his guileless and unsuspecting temper, and of his unfitness for the dirty and defiling work in which he was engaged. Be it so ! But it may prove also that he happened to be surprised on that occasion, finding himself placed suddenly in a perilous situation, as the most accomplish ed and practised deceivers sometimes are. It is paraded also as a further proof of his ingen uousness and nobleness of character, that he avowed himself to General Washington to be the Adjutant General of the British army, and I do not arraign the correctness of the views of his eulogists, hut will ask— What else could be have done as a prudent man but confess? Had concealment been practicable, what would it have availed him ? Certainly nothing. On the contrary, it would have sealed at once his doom and have precipitated it. Had he persistedin maintaining his incognito, and passed himself off for a common, vulgar, venal spy, he would have been disposed of in a very summary manner. " Short be the shrift and sure the cord !" would have been the order ; but being an officer of high rank and standing, a more formal mode of procedure was deemed advisable. The case was referred to a court-martial, which was composed of fourteen officers of the highest rank in the army — Americans and French — and never, in my opinion, before or since has a court been constituted for the trial of such a delinquent, so numerous, or of officers of such high rank, or more disposed to give full weight to any extenuating testimony that might be adduced by the prisoner, and certainly never did a military court, sitting for such a purpose, comport itself more indulgently towards the accusei^. Every latitude allowed hy law or by usage, and much that was not, was enjoyed by him in the investigation, that every circum stance in any degiee favorable to him inight be brought within its cognizance. And never before or since did any commander-in-chief act on a similar occasion with more tenderness, or delicacy, or humanity, than did Generac. Washington. But yet I do not credit the as sertion that he wished to save Andre, or that he made an effort to do it, or that he Would have consented to it unless Arnold could have been had in exchange for him, in which case, 1 have no doubt that the American army and the American people would all have been pleased at seeing the arch-traitor punished in stead of his accomplice- and coadjutor. Andre's tragical fate seems to have been a favorite theme with the historians ofthe Revo lution. All of them, I believe, have consigned Arnold to the infamy be deserved, and all, I believe, have commiserated Andre ; almost all have eulogized, and some have exculpated him. IJewasin his life — at the close ofltat least — unfortunate ; after his death, the most fortunate of men — for certainly never before had the associate and accomplice of a traitor and a detected and acknowledged spy, so much 26 sympathy and so much lofty and eloquent eu logy bestowed apon him. And why? This question which I have asked myself many times, I have never been able satisfactorily to answer. He w^is talented, accomplished, amiable, and brave, say his eulogists, and 1 do not question it; but at the same time 1 am constrained to believe that the delinquency which brought him to an untimely end, was a great drawback upon the Idftiness and chivalrousness of his character. " One loselact will spoil a name for aye." Had Andre appeared in the character of a spy only, his case, casuistically considered, would have been, in my opinion, a much bet ter one than it is. Brave, honorable, and esti mable men have appeared, under certain cir cumstances, in the character of spies — occa sionally, but not habitually and professionally— but to be associated with such a vile traitor as Arnold, and to' be the willing agent a'nd in strument of his treason, is not compatible, it appears to me, with those refined and high- toned principles which have been so prodigally ascribed to him. There were many officers in the British army as brave and as ambitious as Major Andre, who, I have no doubt, would have indignantly spurned a proposition to be associated as a complotter of .treason with Ar nold, or to have advanced his treasonable pro jects in any way requiring disguise and dupli city; and fortunate had it been for the Adju tant General had he been of the number. In his inoral composition there must have en tered some laxity of principle, which influenc ing him to prefer what was expedient and pro fitable to'wbat was honorable and high-minded, Jed to his own ruin instead of that of the glo rious cause against which he had directed his dark and clandestine machinations. But, say his apologists, he had no intention when he left New i.ork of acting as a spy, or of as suming a disguise. To which I answer, that may or may not be the case. There is no proof that it was, and if proven, it amounts to nothing. Had not his so-much-vauuted honor been formed of somewhat pliant and malleable stuff, he would neither have gone into the American lines, nor assumed a disguise, let what would have come of a refusal; and cer tain it is that he could have refused to do both without incurring the least personal risk. But then it would have been necessary to leave, ¦unconsummated for the present, the treasona ble project which he ascended the Hudson to further and to finish. That is a pretty true saying of the French. Ce n'estpas que le premier pas qui coute. It is the first step only in iniquity that embarrasses. After becoming the correspondent and coadju tor of a blackhearted traitor, Andre's percep tion of what was right and what was wrong, of what was noble and high-minded, and what was not, became naturally obtuse and undis- criminating, for there is nothing truer in the whole science of ethics, than the old and time- tried adage, that evil communication corrupts good manners — that is, good morals ; and there never has been, perhaps, a more remarkable exemplification of its truth than this very West Point tragedy. It is said by some historians that the British officers at New York looked with loathing upon Arnold after he had received a commis sion in the British army as the reward of his meditated treachery; that they avoided him, and refused in some cases to have any social relations with him ; and to account for this avoidance and disgust requires the assumption" of something more satisfactory than antipathy and resentment growing out of the share be had in the transaction that caused Andre's melancholy fate. To have felt and to have manifested this antipathy would have been unreasonable and cruel, unless they had loathed the traitor and his treason, as they did, no doubt, an(l could not have, 1 am inclined to think, the most exalted notions of the scrupu- lousness of him who was their victim, or rather the victim ofhis own nnchastened ambition,* War is a game in the playing of which almost all kinds of stratagem and duplicity are allow able. The French phrase ruse de guerre— trick of war — has become vernacular in almost all the languages of Europe, and the thing itself of constant practice and recurrence. Strategy is the learned technical word, the generic term for all kinds of military opera tions — the rusis de guerre inclusive. One of these ruses, the employment of spies, has been legitimated, and he is regarded as the adroitest commander who can employ them most advan tageously. The calling of a spy is not regarded as particularly, reputable-^1 speak now of what may be called a professional spy — spying for pay being his trade and occupation. He is in general rather a loose kind of a character, not being over scrupulous in any respect, is bold, cunning, dexterous, and enterprising. Sometimes he is in the pay and confidence of both the commanders of hostile armies, and de- 'ceives both, or but one of them, it may be. This depends upon the quality of his conscience and upon the quantum of the consideration. His trade is rather a perilous one, and he car' ries it on generally with a halter round his neck, for the so-called laws of war, though very elaborate and learnedly compiled, aBord him not the slightest protection. The vilest felon, the pirate, the traitor can appeal to the tribunals, but for the spy there is no appeal, except to Heaven's mercy seat. If he is suc cessful and serviceable, he is rewarded— if caught he is hanged, and there ends the matter. This being the status of espionage, it would be natural to suppose that men of principle and honor would never so far compromise themselves as to become spies ; but this would be a mistake. They do sometimes act in that capacity, but from far different "motives than those, which actuate the vulgar mercenary spy. Devotedness to their country or to a cherished cause, or fondness for adventure, or for " hair breadth 'scapes," or buoyancy oP spirits, or an exuberance of personal daring, may influence them now and theii to embark in this Very ticklish occupation. It ia not a very common thing though, in an army, for a commissioned officer to attempt it. No com- * Botta says that' the English detested Ar nold for his treason, and for having been thei cause of Andre's death. (Gl' Inglesi stessi il delestarono e pel suo tradimento e per essere stato cagione della morte d'ANDRE.j 27 mander would press him to do so, unless under veiy extraordinary circumstances, and no one ever counsels his friend to play the spy, for two reasons — because of the danger to which he must expose himself of dying the death of a felon, and because, in the bosom of every hon orable man, there is an abiding repugnance to the duplicity and disguise, which must be re sorted to by a spy, even when acting as such, under the most praiseworthy and justifying cir cumstances. This repugnance, we are told, was felt by Andre, but the Devil, who is always present when treason is concocting, prevailed upon him to stifle the nascent sentiment. He