OF THE U N I VERS ITY Of ILLINOIS 94£.4I P<35t TRIAL OF CHARLES PINNEY, Esq. IN TIIE COURT OF KING'S BENCH, ON AN INFORMATION, Filed by His Majesty’s Attorney-General, CHARGING HIM WITH NEGLECT OF DUTY, IN HIS OFFICE AS MAYOR OF BRISTOL, DURING THE RIOTS. Accurately transcribed from the Short-Hand Report of Mr. Gurney. BRISTOL : PRINTED BY GUTCH AND MARTIN, SMALL-STREET ; AND PUBLISHED BY CADEL, STRAND, LONDON ) BLACKWOOD AND CO. EDINBURGH ; AND MAY BE HAD OF THE BOOKSELLERS IN BRISTOL, CLIFTON, BATH, &C. &C. MDCCCXXXIII. j j .Q , , , waugv 7 TALMAD6E f I 1 tl'\ tfw ^ "> Povun of ^ ' ' 94 2.. 4 1 f6.rf The following Article appeared in Blackwood’s Magazine, /’or December last , under the title of “Trial oftiie Bristol Magistrates— reaction AMONG THE OPERATIVES.” Messrs. Gutch and Martin having obtained per- mission from the Writer of the Article , the Pub- lisher of the Magazine , to make what use they please of it , elucidation of the Volume they have already published , under the title of — “ The Bristol Riots, their Causes, Progress, and Consequences,” cannot more appropriately avail themselves of this act of kindness and liberality , than by inserting it entire , as a Preface to the present Volume , containing the Trial of the late Mayor 9 a/am which trial , the events that preceded it , aac? tfAose which have since occurred in Bristol during the progress of the late Election , it forms so valuable and judicious a commentary . ■» 0 O 1 V Fei.ix Farley’s Journal Office, Bristol, Feb, 1833. Digitized by the Internet Archive in 2016 https://archive.org/details/trialofcharlespiOOpinn BRISTOL. — THE TRIAL OF THE MAGISTRATES, AND REACTION AMONG THE OPERATIVES. [From Blackwood's Magazine.] In the view we took last March of the causes of the Bristol Riots, we were quite certain that our statements could hot be set aside. The radical press of the devoted city did indeed send forth, with virulent malignity, their anathemas against the light of truth which was pouring into the dens of conspiracy ; but venom and anathema were innocuous to our arguments, and the facts we brought forward remained undisputed. We have the satisfaction to believe, our efforts were not lost upon the better-disposed, though deluded citizens. The mists have gradually dispersed from their eyes, and the fan- tastic images they had assumed to their heated imagina- tions, vanished. The experience of every subsequent day has proved to them that they have not been enriched, nor enjoyed more peace and security, nor more exercise of the dearer charities of social life, from the ruinous distraction which the political fanaticism of revolution- ary demagogues has fatally effected. They have thus from suffering been taught to reflect and examine, — to take less upon the trust of those who have every thing to gain in a general scramble and confusion, and to place more confidence in those, to whom, in safer and happier times, they had been wont to look up with de- served respect. And what is the consequence ? They loathe, to detestation, the arts which they now discover were too successfully practised against them. We repeat, we were quite sure that our statements were true. They have received the confirmation of a Court of Law ; the unimpeachable testimony on oath of numerous and most respectable witnesses — and the de- cision of a jury, giv,m too with unusual emphasis and energy — establish our whole view. The Causes of the Bristol Riots will be henceforth conspicuously manifest for the future historian of the disastrous Reign ofTerror, the first days of England’s peril. VI Had we been so disposed, we might in March last have extended our accounts of those deplorable events by ample details ; for the trial of the Mayor of Bristol has brought forward but little that ourselves, in com- mon with hundreds, were not then acquainted with ; and knowing as we do, that even a slight enquiry, if not confined to the persecuting party, would have furnished the Solicitor to the Crown, or any agent, with nearly all that has appeared upon the trial, we are astonished that a prosecution so utterly disgraceful to the Government should have been proceeded in — and how proceeded in ? They have allowed the Magistracy of so important a city as Bristol, and under such extraordinary irritation, whom more particularly it behoved them to reinstate and maintain in authority and respect — to be subjected to the evil scrutiny of every slanderer, the pointed malice of a wicked press, the malignity of a secret inquisition (notoriously under Ministerial sanction) — to the seeing their civic authority daily held up to the contempt of the lawless, their characters exposed to unjust odium, and their persons to unprovoked danger, during the long space of twelve months — at any period of which, this same Government, if they did not know, might have ascertained beyond a question, not only their entire innocence, but the praiseworthy zeal and activity of the Magistrates to preserve the city, when both it and them- selves were abandoned to revolutionary fury. They would have discovered this, if decent pains had been taken to sift the evidence of their own informers. But the fact is, Government did not want the knowledge — they know and knew too well the causes of the Bristol riots. The prosecution was at the dictation of those whom it was in their system to obey ; and upon the slightest intimation from that party of a desire to put the Magistrates on their trial, though the necessarily con- sequent suspense of authority, where authority was more imperatively required, must ensue, they instantly gave their sanction to a self-constituted body of accusers — established a secret tribunal — an Inquisition, of which themselves are but the Alguazils, the inferior officers and persecuting agents of the superior tyranny. And who was the Grand Inquisitor-General ? One of inveterate enmity to the civic body; who had, before the Bristol riots, proclaimed to assembled mobs, that Vll “ it was time that Corporations should be interfered with!!” It is a fearful state of things if such local inquisitions are to be set up by, and in secret correspon- dence with, a Government, and if the members shall be generally dissenters from the Church or political creed of the Magistracy in each district. If such local inquisi- tions, we say, are to be established, themselves perhaps under the eommand of another Directory or Political Union, there will soou be an end to justice and to liberty. It is the most important step of revolution, and such as the demons of anarchy are ready to hail with an uproar of delight. We cannot too seriously and solemnly call the attention of the country to this secretly working tyranny — this formal denunciation and degra- dation of the Magistracy — this establishment of Whig or Radical information offices, (and the first experiment, at least in England, is before us) — these Lions’ mouths, where any scoundrel may drop in his perfidious accusa- tion — these new Star Chambers, where every libeller may be welcomed, and dignified and invested with the authority and impunity of a Government spy, whom envy, malignity, private hatred, and revenge, or political conspiracy, may urge to the task of infamy. We do not mean that the force of these expressions should be re- ceived to represent the characters of the committee of citizens at Bristol, at whose instigation this prosecution has been undertaken. They may have been actuated by various motives, according to their natures, good and bad. But this we do know of them, from evidence before the Court, that they were generally meu of a strong party bias — hostile to the Corporation as a Cor- poration — and it is worthy of notice, and accordingly so pointed out by Sir James Scarlett as a singular circum- stance, “ that the greater part of the witnesses for the prosecution are either Catholics, or dissenters from the Church of England.” But we do say that the establish- ment of such an inquisitorial authority may lead to the vilest of tyrannies ; and the subjecting the Magistracy of the country to any such tribunal, is of fearful omen and example, that should rouse to an expression of their abhorrence all who have still a regard for civil liberty. Another cause for these trials may be found in this, that they would avert for a time the public mind from the real delinquents. A whole year’s exemption from Till reprobation, from public indignation, during the Reform rage, may have been considered cheaply purchased at the cost of some peril to a city already in part sacked and burnt, and the sacrifice of a few provincial aldermen. But never was popular indignation more iniquitously directed, than it has been during the last twelve months, with extraordinary ferocity against the highly praise- worthy Magistrates of Bristol. In our article of last March, we shewed the general contempt of authority throughout the kingdom, by the evil coalition between the Whigs, and those who desired, and still desire, nothing: so much as the subversion of the Monarchy, and all its glorious institutions — their reckless hunting down of the Tories and Tory principles — the entire immunity proclaimed to sedition — even the high rewards offered to agitation, and particularly in the sickening, disgusting Ministerial patronage, adula- tion, and royal favour to O’Connell, when the indignant country, trusting to the openly declared promise of the Ministry, looked but for his punishment as a culprit. We pointed out the profligacy of the press, maddening, by a systematic daily repetition of audacity, lying, and fatal promises, the people to rebellion against the con- stitution, and all constituted authorities ; — that atrocious riots, and attacks upon the most eminent persons and their property, had been deemed unworthy the notice of the Ministry, — that while the Demagogue and Re- volutionist were set free to disseminate their poisonous princijiles, the conduct of the Government covered them with the sanction of the King’s name, and led the peo pie to believe that Riot was but another name for Loyalty, and that therefore impunity was secured to them, whatever outrages they might commit. We pointed out the incessant vituperation thrown at the Clergy, the threatening language adopted towards the Bishops, and the significant recommendation “ to set their houses in order;” and how that mandate had been echoed by the irreligious, the wicked, and the desperate in all parts, and how literally it was understood by them. We shewed that nowhere was this violent agitation more in activity than in Bristol ; and we gave some specimens of the intemperance of the local orators and press, by which the mass of the citizens were kept in constant irritation, taught to consider taxation and imposts on IX commerce as tlie exactions of tyranny, the clergy of their cathedral as “ vermin” and “ filth — that if a more desperate mob should be urged to violence, to destroy the depositories of taxation, revenue, and houses of civic authority, or the sacred edifice of the cathedral, it must be expected that the citizens, in their delirium, (the effect of the poison of the Demagogues,) would rather exult in the ruin, than combine to avert it. We shewed that in the riots they did in masses rejoice , as long as the devastation was confined to public or corporation property ; and though this fact has been the boast, and, as occasion suited, denied by the Radi- cal press, it is now confirmed by evidence on oath. We pointed out that the Corporation was not a political body, — that opposed to them was a very large party, mostly of Radical principles, who strained every nerve to subvert their authority. We shewed that the Corpo- ration — fully aware of the general relaxation of all the usual restraints, and “ a determination” formed and insisted on by citizens much above the lower rank, to offer gross insult to Sir Charles Wetherell, though about to sit as the judicial representative of the King’s Ma- jesty — aware of intended and formidable riots, and that their own means of protecting the city, from the causes above-mentioned, were weakened, or nearly annihilated — fully represented this state of things to the Govern- ment, soliciting military aid ; — that in this they were thwarted by one of the members for Bristol, Mr. Protheroe, the mere tool of the Political Union, whose extraordinary letter to Mr. Herapath, the Vice-Presi- dent of the Union, as it is important, and could not appear in evidence in Court, we again lay before the reader : — “ Sir, — On Thursday night I received a note from Lord Melbourne to wait upon his Lordship, as did my* colleague, Mr. Baillie. I had bets that the subject related, to the Cholera or Wetherell. I found a depu- tation in the room for military to protect the city from riot, and Wetherell from attack. I argued against the policy of the proposal, and stated, that if we could be secured from thieves and adventurers from other places, that I could, with the aid of friends, (the Union,) keep all in perfect order. I offered my services to attend Wetherell, and to do all this, provided I might be allowed to enable the people of Bristol, thus constrained, to express in some measure their strong and unalterable disapprobation of Sir Charles Wetherell’s political con- duct, that we might all be insured from the insidious conduct of the Tories, who, if the people are quiet , would say there is a reaction against the Bill.” We shewed that the Government did not think fit to send, though strongly urged, a sufficient military force ; — that not one hundred men were sent, and these under such conditions and restrictions, as rendered it ex- tremely perilous to the Civil Magistrate to call them in. We stated that the Magistrates behaved with judgment and spirit, to the utmost of their power, and threw themselves unsparingly into frequent peril, — that they were deserted both by the military and by the citizens. And we now firmly believe it was most fortunate for them, personally, that they were unable to quell the riots by obedience to their authority ; for had the extent of the devastation been prevented, by a proper exercise of a sufficient force that Government might have furnished, and one life had been lost, who can doubt that the Government would willingly, or by compulsion, have put them all upon their trials for murder ? The same instigators for the prosecution of Captain Lewis, who accidentally, by a blow from a ruffian on his arm when holding a pistol, shota boy whom he did not see, would have been loud and imperative in their demands for instant persecution, even to death. The Jury on the trial of the Mayor of Bristol have by their verdict con- firmed our statements, with regard to the transactions at Bristol, with the single exception of the conduct of Mr. Protheroe, which did not come before the Court, and which stands confirmed, by his own admission, by his own letter. We may now venture to make a few remarks upon the Mayor’s trial. We were truly astonished at the weakness of the case — the charges were loose and gene- ral — they were in no particular tangible. We fully agree in the severity of the rebuke given by Sir James Scarlett in his appeal to the Jury: — “ For if you are to convict the defendant on the evi- dence you have heard, or the statement which the At- torney-General has laid before you, there would be no safety for any Magistrate in the kingdom, — no honesty, x i no integrity, no zeal could save him from the malice or the vengeance of his enemies.” The defendant has been subject to no ordinary tyranny. Persecution is even to invade the sancity of justice. In a case where his honour, all he holds most dear to him, the issue of which is to determine whether he is to be branded with infamy, (though conscious of having fully performed his duty,) by which it is to be determined if lie is for the remainder of his life to live in reputation among his fellow-citizens, or to be hooted for ever from the city, perhaps from the kingdom, at the sacrifice of every interest, — at such a juncture, overwhelmed by the whole power and ability of an Attorney-General, and a Government prosecution, and all the unknown evidence a secret and hostile committee might rake together, he has to defend himself against the tyranny of the press, an attempt by a perverted report, a misrepresentation of evidence, to influence the jury and exasperate the country against him! The scoundrel who did make that false report of the evidence, saw r the probability that the Jury would refer to his report to refresh their memories. The object, therefore, is manifest : it was an act of villainy that will meet its reward. What is the evidence of Mr. Roberts, a dissenting minister ? — “ I was astonished at the infatuated apathy of the inhabitants of Bristol, when the town was about to be burnt before their eyes.” Now mark the report of this in the Times. “ I had a strong impression of the dangerous consequence of the infatuated apathy of the Civic Authorities in permitting the city to be occupied and ravaged by a mob.” Fortunately this wicked per- version did not escape the eye of Sir James Scarlett, and he accordingly put the Jury on their guard. But a question arises, did the reporter so report the evi- dence ? or was it so perverted in the manufactory of the Principal Liar ? Loose and general as the charges are, we may pick out, if we attend closely to the evidence of the witnesses for the prosecution, the following, as the crimes and misdemeanours imputed to the Magistrates, or, if we are to confine ourselves to this trial, the Mayor. It has been charged against him that he did not authorize the troops to fire. Now it is proved by evidence that he did order them “ to fire if necessary,” but that Colonel xii Brer c ton, who had received Ms instructions from Go- vernment, declared it was “ unnecessary,” and that he would take the responsibility upon himself. It is said he should have put arms into the hands of the citizens. Major Mackworth, a military man, con- siders such a measure at all times unsafe ; and it must have appeared evident to any one who had read a small portion of this trial, that if three hundred special constables could not be obtained, and the people were, to say the least, in apathy, the danger of arming bands of ruffians among the citizens must have been extreme. In this respect the Magistrates shewed cool judgment, for they secretly conveyed arms out of the reach of the rioters to a place of safety, and, with discretion, kept it to themselves ; and when a Mr. Goss, who, for aught they knew, might have been connected with the rioters, was very forward and busy questioning them, they very wisely told him by all means to throw the arms into the float, which they had already secured. And yet, so weak is the case, this Mr. Goss, the important corres- pondent of the Minister, is paraded forward with his foolish testimony, which proves only that the Magis- trates of Bristol were wiser than his Majesty’s Ministers and their Attorney-General, and would not trust him. It has been proved on oath that several, the most active leaders of the mob, appeared in the character of consta- bles. “ I will,” replied the witness Harmar, an attorney, “ swear to that fact; they were armed on the Monday with a long knife, or rather a weapon between a knife and a sword. I headed a body of special constables who were menaced by those who w ere armed.” The Mayor is charged with not having during the riots col- lected a sufficient body of citizens, who might have quelled them. But it is proved every attempt was made to procure a civic force, that the Mayor went forth into the streets himself, as did the Magistrates, called at the citizens’ houses, and headed parties — that many refused assistance, saying, why should we go and protect the Corporation property, let them protect their own pro- perty ; that the force the Mayor and his brother Magis- trates did collect were maltreated and in danger of their lives by the troops the Ministers had provided. It is proved that w hen an attempt is made to rescue property from the Bishop’s Palace, the culprit is allowed to Xlll. escape, and the special constable threatened by Colonel Brereton that he would cut him down. “ I went to the Palace and attempted,” says Mr. Harmar, “ to rescue some property. I was then armed with a sword, when Colonel Brereton commanded me to put up the sword, or he would cut me down. I was very indignant, and made some angry answer. As the rioters came out of the Palace, laden with plunder, the soldiers made room for them to pass through their ranks. I caught one man, having first struck him with my sword — he was laden with plunder — when a soldier said to me, ‘ you have been before told to put the sword up, and if you don’t do so instantly I will cut you down.’ Having before seen the Bishop’s butler wounded in the face, I thought it better to do so, and the prisoner escaped. The butler had captured a man who had robbed the Palace, which was then on fire, and he was struggling with him, when a soldier ordered him to let the man alone. The butler refused, saying he was put there to protect his master’s property, and he would do so, upon which the soldier struck him a violent blow with his sabre, and cut his nose ; had he been a few inches nearer to him, from the force of the blow, he would unques- tionably have cut off his head. Of course the prisoner escaped. We had succeeded in putting out the fire in the Palace, and in cai^turing some of the ringleaders, when one of the special constables came in and told us that the soldiers had left us; upon which it was agreed to make a rush and escape, as it was hopeless to attempt to defend the Palace. We were a good deal pelted, but we did escape. Mr. Franklyn, a special constable, was seriously wounded.” Now from this evidence it appears that the force the Mayor provided did their duty, but were not equal to defend themselves both against the rioters and his Majesty’s troops — that they might, in this place, have preserved the Palace and the plunder, had not they been threatened to be cut down and actually struck by the troops — and it appears that neither Colonel Brereton nor his soldiers (the 3rd) were averse to cut people down, provided they were not rioters and plunderers. Every one must wonder why the severity of his Majesty’s troops should be exercised only on the Conservatives and real constables. It will be necessary that Parliament should demand the pro- XIV duction of the secret orders sent to Colonel Brereton. It is charged as a crime upon the Mayor that he did not call out the posse comitatus , which, as it required time, he could not do ; nor could he have been secure of his force, where so large a portion of the citizens were infected, that in the commencement he could not obtain three hundred special constables. But it may be worth while to take the evidence of one witness on this feeling — the Rev. J. Bulwer, examined by Mr. Follett. “ He was in different parts of the city during the Sunday of the riots. He heard the approbation of the mob ex- pressed when public property was destroyed, but w hen private property was destroyed the feeling changed. He mingled with the crowd, and heard them say, as the Gaol was on fire, ‘ It serves them right, the villains, for bringing that arrogant Tillain, Sir C. Wetherell, down to Bristol to insult the citizens.’ These expressions were used by persons with silk umbrellas over their heads, and having females under their arms with silk gowns on. At the toll-gate he heard the people say that there would be enough for all, and that the rascally Lords took the bread out of the people’s mouths, and then sent down soldiers to do for them. He saw r the mob then move on to Lawford’s Gate, holding up bars of iron, and asking every respectable person if he was for Reform. As the mob passed along, the inhabitants were standing at their doors, but offered no opposition to the mob. He subsequently heard the mob cheered by such expressions as ‘ Go it, my boys.’ He saw Lawford’s Gate prison destroyed. He was subsequently with the Mayor and Mr. Serjeant Ludlow in the even- ing, and heard them solicit persons to join and put down the mob ; the request was not obeyed.” These then were the persons who would have formed the posse comitatus , and could they be depended upon to avert the destruction at which they rejoiced? We see now the effects of the intemperate abuse so lavishly thrown at the Lords, in and out of Parliament. We see how the poison of that tyranny worked ; liow r ready the people must have been for a revolution thus mad- dened into such a frenzy as to see, rejoicing spectators, the public buildings of their city burnt and plundered by a ferocious mob. But what were the Political Union doing all this XV while ? Let us take the evidence of one witness on this point, and we shall see whether the £75 paid them for their services (for whatever their services were, they were paid for), might not have been saved. Mr. Brim ell is examined — “ Is an engineer, and son of Mr. Brunell an engineer. On the Saturday night he was in Queen- square, where he saw a multitude of persons assembled, calling out something about 4 the King and Reform.’ He assisted in apprehending some of the rioters, and one of the prisoners was rescued by persons whom he afterwards recognised as special constables and Mem- bers of the Political Union.” We must here remind the reader, that Mr. Herapath, Vice-President of the Union, had written to Mr. Aldermau Daniel, one of the Magistrates in the information, on 26th October, “ that it — (the intention to employ an armed force) — had pro- duced effects upon the Council of the Union, which the Magistrates alone must be answerable for !” And that the day preceding the 25th October, “ The Council of the Union,” under the sign manual of J. P. Ven, se- cretary, “ By order of the Council,” had demanded of the Magistrates the resignation of their offices, that they should “ suffer the civic authorities to be elected by a majority of the votes of their fellow-citizens.” Probably, it may be thought, that it was in preparation to set up a Provisional Government “ by Order of the Council,” — and there may be some colour for such a suspicion, from the evidence of Mr. John Wood, who deposed that be had told the Magistrates, that “ he had seen Ven, the secretary, leading on and cheering the mob on Saturday night,” — he further adds, that “ he deposed to these facts before the Committee of Enquiry.” It is obvious here to remark, that this deposition of Mr. John Wood did not meet the instructions of the Attor- ney-General. It was much safer to the Government to charge a whole body of Aldermen and Magistrates, than one single secretary of a Political Union. But as this information was given [deposed] before the Com- mittee of Enquiry, it may not be amiss here to drop in a little evidence as to the character of this Committee ; and that we may receive it from the best authority, we will take that of the president himself. Mr. Cunning- ham is under examination — “ Was friendly to Reform. He acted as chairman at the meeting at the Commer- XVI. cial Rooms with reluctance, and was also chairman of the Committee then appointed, but he withdrew from the Committee, because it seemed to be the desire of other members rather to 'prosecute the Magistrates , than to call for a general enquiry. The Committee had had communication with Lord Melbourne and the Members for the city, but he declined attending the Committee, on finding that their object was a party one? So then it is proved that the Government, or Lord Mel- bourne and the Members for the city, were in correspon- dence with, and sanctioning a committee “ whose object was a party one? and whose chief desire was “ to prosecute the Magistrates .” And it is from the information raked up by such a party, that this solemn and iniquitous absurdity — The Trial — is got up at great cost and sacrifice to individuals and the public. And it may be asked, why were this Committee so desirous of directing the public attention to the Magistrates, who were not guilty ? Was it cunningly to screen and pro- vide for the safety of those who were ? And had the Secretary for the Home Department, and the secretary “ for the Council,” and the secretary perhaps of the Committee, a fellow feeling ? One heavy item among the charges is, that the Catholic priest, Mr. Edgeworth, was not allowed to bring his two hundred armed sober Irishmen into the field. But this was on the Monday ; how the two hundred sober Irishmen* were previously employed, does not appear ; and as the military prepa- rations on the Monday were sufficient without these light-armed forces, they seem to make a very unne- cessary parade before the Court ; and it may be possible, that the Magistrates considered the previous language of this Catholic priest as one of the strong exciting causes of the outbreak. We really think it deserving of some attention, that a violent-minded Catholic priest should be able, on a sudden emergency, to marshal two hundred sober Irishmen either for or against the peace of the city. We have all heard that Catholic priests have occasionally shewn great talent in thus marshal- ling forces. Another small item against his Worship the Mayor, is, that he was not, in a city of one hundred thousand inhabitants, at every one’s elbow that chose to ask for him. It is presumed that he hid himself, sneaked away ; XVII and there is a base attempt to throw ridicule and an air of lowest cowardice over his proceedings. Now, what says evidence ? It is proved that he was almost every where, and that his personal exertions were beyond praise ; that he remained at the Mansion-house, until he was burnt and stormed out, and even then retired (made his escape if you please, Mr. Vituperator and Revolutionist) with great reluctance, and only when urged to do so, with the gallant Major Mackworth, who escaped with him. He headed bands who deserted him, knocked at the citizens’ doors, — in one word, this item in the charges, if all are false, is a base lie — a determined calumny. Another small item is, that he could not ride. But of this no proof is given — and no necessity shewn for his skill in horsemanship, — no necessity that he should have made himself ridiculous by aping a serjeant of dragoons, nor of impeding the progress of the soldiers by his ignorance of their movements— nor, by standing still or turning to the right when he should have wheeled to the left, have found himself in the midst of some of those amiable constables, whether of the Union or not, who carried “ something between knives and swords,” and threatened the specials. Nor perhaps would he have thought himself too safe, thus accoutred as a dra- goon, without his implements of defence, either amidst those troops who have taken their degrees at the Uni- versity of Paris, and who may read the Edinburgh Review, or even amidst the two hundred Irishmen, though all sober, with Mr. Edgeworth at their head. Another item — that he did not, with the eye of a Caesar, or at least a modern engineer, seize upon the plan of some absolute-wisdom-monger — we believe Mr. Herapath, — to shut up the rioters in a certain island. But no proof is brought of any facility — all that is pre- supposed. We hear nothing of difficulties, impossibilities, or inexpediencies. We are not told how many docks and locks and swing-bridges were to be stoutly guarded — how many boats to be taken possession of — how many men it would have required, nor where they were to be found — nor of the immense property that the mob would inevitably destroy, from downright vengeance, when they should have beheld the attempt. A great part of that island -property, belonging to a member of the b XV111 Corporation, would certainly have been a desirable sacrifice at that time, in the eyes of many citizens — and, consisting mostly of timber, would have made a grand illumination in honour of the Three Glorious Days of Bristol. But blowing away these flimsy items, as so much thistle-seed, which will again rise up for ever and ever in worthless and unprofitable soils, the brains of the real culprits and revolutionists, though now scattered to and fro with the winds, let us remark, that in the attempt to make any thing of them, according to Mr. Justice Littledale, there are at least two instances of perjury. Besides which, he gives it as his opinion, that “ the man who sent the Dodington troop from Fisher’s,” (upon the matter of which troop so much stress has been laid,) u must have been connected with the rioters, or known nothing about the stables ; for Fisher, the owner, said that he was engaged in lighting up the stables for that troop, and that too by the direction of the Magis- trates .” Mr. Justice Littledale has an aversion to the word “ organize,” as of new introduc tion into our law and language, and never saw it in a declaration or informa- tion. We beg leave to point out to Mr. Justice Little- dale that he is not singular in his abhorrence. The Committee of Secrecy, appointed by Parliament in 1799, entertained a similar dislike ; for, exposing the plans of the United Irishmen, they remark, “ Having thus c organized ’ (as it is termed) the several counties and populous towns, a committee, called a subordinate directory, was erected,” &c. The term, in this case of the Bristol trials, may have been at the suggestion of the Committee in corres- pondence with Government. We believe organized was a term used likewise by the Birmingham Political Union and has been practically enforced by a few hun- dred thousand sober Irishmen of the Union, that is, the United, as occasion may have required; and for which organization a Catholic priest, O’Coigly, was, in the language of the Directory, “ sacrificed.” Perhaps the term organization will be not the less pleasing to some, nor the less displeasing to others, if reference be made to the objects to which, in England, it was to have been applied. We will turn a moment to the Committee of Secrecy appointed by Parliament, who discovered those XIX objects. u They” (the Corresponding Society) “ ex- horted each other to prepare courageously for the struggle which they meditated, end openly avowed that they meant to obtain the redress which they professed to seek, not from Parliament, not from the Executive Government, but from themselves, and from their own strength and valour ; from their own laws, and not from the laws of those whom they termed their plunderers, enemies, and oppressors. For the purpose of assembling such a convention, and of preparing the people at large to look to its proceedings with respect, and to adopt and countenance the doctrine and practices which it might recommend, itinerant members of the societies above mentioned (various Unions) dispersed themselves throughout different parts of the country, proceeding from town to town, and from village to village, endea- vouring to inculcate into the minds of those with whom they conversed, the necessity of such a measure as that which they had in contemplation, for the reform of the abuses of the Government, and the redress of the grievances of the people; and describing, in language varied according to the passions or prejudices of different classes whom they addressed, the nature and extent of the different political purposes which might be effected by a convention once assembled. The dispersion of Paine’s works, and other works of a similar tendency, was at the same time continued with increased industry; and the societies flattered themselves, that they had by these means really made progress towards preparing a large portion of the nation to favour their project. The zeal, indeed, of many of the country societies appears to have outrun the instructions of the agents, and to have carried them into discussions beyond those limits which the persons who planned and instigated the measure thought it prudent in the first instance to prescribe. The agents were instructed to confine the views of the several societies to whom they were deputed, and to point the wishes of individuals purely to the attainment of universal suffrage, from which, once established, it was represented that all the reforms which could be de- sired would naturally flow; and it appears to have been the design of those who directed the business, to prevent the premature discussion of any of those points which they represented as subordinate, until after the convention should have been assembled, and this Dri- ft 2 XX mary object of universal suffrage obtained. No caution or prohibition, however, could prevent many of the country societies from shewing how confidently they anticipated, as the result to which the deliberations of that convention must necessarily lead, the abolition of the monrrchy, of the aristocracy, and of other establishments which they deemed equally oppresive; and the substi- tution of a representative government, founded on the new doctrine of the rights of man, and uniting in one body all the legislative and executive powers of the state .” — Report of the Committee of Secrecy. In the first few lines of this long quotation, respect- ing “ the struggle,” and the force to be used against the plunderers, &c., we think we recognise the speech of one of the Bristol orators, now revolutionizing else- where, previous to the Bristol riots. Whether we have digressed or not, it little matters, for a question arises out of our quotation which may have a considerable bearing on the subject of the Bristol riots. Are there now any societies entertaining such views ? Doubtless there are ! working both openly and in secret ; and the more openly on one hand, the more is the danger from the secret parts and movements of the conspiracy. We entertain no doubt whatever, that secret societies had long previously prepared the Bristol riots and that they were upon a plan. We believe the plot originated in France. That French emissaries in this country have been busy, and French pay in circulation, from the moment of the conspiracy in France to overthrow the government of Charles X. And we believe the plot will one day be fully developed, and that our own press will be found to have been deeply implicated in it, and to have received their full portion of the bribes. Be not startled at the supposition — such things have been Committee of Secrecy reported that “ an attempt was made to give the ships in mutiny the name of a Republic, and this attempt was countenanced both by papers published in France, and by a paper here called the Courier, which has on many occasions appeared almost equally devoted to the French cause.” And has not the Courier more recently been found playing the same game ? But we believe the press at this moment to be largely in the French pay, and promoting solely the French interests. But as to revolutionary conspi- proved The XXI nicies, what preceded the burning’s in this country ? Those in Normandy ; incendiarism originated in France. Why were not those of Normandy discovered? Be- cause the intended object was attained, and those taken into custody on suspicion by the old Government were liberated by the new. But have we not the instance of one of the agents having fallen into disgrace with the new French Government, raising his plea of merit, that he had fomented the discontents throughout England, and established the “ European Society” in London, for disseminating revolutionary principles ? He could not have made such a plea, if those to whom he made it did not know it to be true, and they probably had them- selves the documents in proof. The publication of M. Sarrans, aide-de-camp to La Fayette, makes pretty clear discoveries of the Propa- gandism of the overthrowing party ; that to them were owing the Revolution in Belgium, Poland, and the out- breaks in Italy. We believe they knew well their in- tended Revolution in France could not stand unless they could create in Europe generally a revolutionary spirit. And hence Propagandism extended its baneful influence to our shores, and was soon as conspicuous as in Normandy, in conflagrations, agitation, and an unexampled tyranny of the press. We believe that in- numerable secret agents were about in this country, and that by them the riots in Bristol and other places were planned ; that a simultaneous rising was intended, and the establishment of Provisional Governments . If it be said that such things must have been discovered, we ask, have, excepting on this solution, the plots of the incen- diaries, which we know must have existed, been traced to their causes ? We ask, if we were not on the eve, within a few hours, of the outbreaking of a desperate rebellion in Ireland, under Lord Edward Fitzgerald, when hundreds of thousands were ready upon the instant to rise up in arms? and then, only a few hours before its accomplish- ment, the Government had no suspicion. But here there are many circumstances to lead us to the belief, and we have heard statements of details relating to the Bristol riots, which to our minds confirm it. We do not think that all the parties that have acted were in the plot — ■ they have been made the dupes, and have played another’s game. XXII But to return to the trial of the Mayor of Bristol. With all that has been proved, and ail that has not been proved, or rather, all that has been disproved be- fore the understanding- of the Court, what could have possessed the Attorney-General, that he should have ventured to carry his official and professional zeal or habit so far as to outrage common sense and the de- cency of truth, and that, too, when the Mayor only is on his trial, as to include all the Magistrates in a charge of equal guilt with the ruffians who were hanged as the perpetrators of the horrible conflagrations ? Were the Magistrates — was it ever pretended they were, but by the ruffian Times —accomplices with the incendiaries? Or what is the meaning of this conclusion of his address to the Jury: “I or he could not help expressing the opinion he entertained, that, in his judgment, the Ma- gistrates shared equally with the men who had suffered for violating the law, the responsibility of the calamity which befell the city of Bristol !” This is too bad ! — detestably too bad ! But when we find that this Mi- nisterial bluster is all thrown away ; and that the good sense and honesty of the Jury, as well as Judges, are not to be averted from a plain case and acquittal by such ill-timed virulence, we cannot help thinking that the Attorney-General makes no very splendid figure. There is something ludicrous in his position. He re- minds us of Dingdong, who would have taken his sheep to the devil’s market ; but the more cunning Panurge, determined to prevent him, by his superior management gets the big ram out of his hands, tosses him over the rail, and the whole flock follow and escape. We do not think the Attorney-General will imitate Dingdong, and try to cling to one out of the many, for Dingdong w as carried away and lost in the attempt. But what will he have to carry back to the Ministers ? Where is the victim, they will cry, and he will shew them the verdict. What will the Premier say to it ? What will the Secre- tary for the Home Department say to it? It may sug- gest to them that there are days of enquiry, and days when the people have a desire for victims. But as the verdict is at least gratifying to us, it may as well be recorded in Maga — and here it is — “ We are unanimously of opinion that Charles Pinney, Esq., the late Mayor of Bristol, is not Guilty of the misdemeanors charged in the Information.” XX111 After a short pause, the foreman added : “ W e are also of opinion that the late Mayor of Bristol, when under circumstances of unparalleled diffi- culty, menaced and opposed by an infuriated and reck- less mob, unsupported by any adequate civil or military force, and deserted by those from whom he might rea- sonably have expected assistance, discharged his duty with zeal and personal courage.” Not an infuriate, observe, but an infuriated mob — rendered infuriate. And, again, — unsupported by any adequate civil or military force. — Who, it will be asked, should have determined the military force ? And de- serted , again, is a strong word. This is too important a verdict to rest here. And here we fearlessly charge his Majesty’s Ministers, that they have raised a spirit of insubordination and contempt of law throughout the kingdom, and made it a scene for the plots of conspirators and revolutionists — that the}" have denounced by their language, and the language of their patronised abettors, and encourage- ment of a daring and systematically lying press, the greater part of the aristocracy of the land, the Peerage and the Bishops more particularly — that they have fos- tered with peculiar favour illegal Political Unions, de- liberating upon a refusal to pay taxes — that they have followed a system of persecution of the magistracy when they have zealously endeavoured to do their duty, and protect the lives and property of the innocent — that, by allowing nearly universal impunity, they have given, as it were, a license to every outrage — that, in consequence, the revolutionary schemes of desperate men have had full scope, and every interest of the country been brought to irremediable convulsion — and that, but for this system of non-government, the riots at Bristol would never have taken place, when, with wild passions, loosened from old restraint, infuriated multitudes rushed to the destruction of property to which their hatred had been directed, and hence houses of taxation, of civic authority, castles of nobility, and the palace of a Bishop, have been reduced to ashes. We charge them, that when the Magistrates of Bristol, finding their authority nearly annihilated, pointed out the danger impending over and threatening their ancient and important city, — that then, they did not take the necessary steps to protect it ; but sent a military force under embarrassing restrictions, and such XXIV as a jury have pronounced inadequate. And, after these woful events had occurred, we charge them with a timid submission to the mobs, and insult to the King’s Judge, in the person of Sir Charles Wetherell, by a careful abstinence from any particularly directed expression of their sense of the atrocious attempt upon his life. And we charge them with a cruel persecution of the Bristol Magistrates, whose entire innocence they might have ascertained by a decent enquiry ; and with demeaning themselves to correspond with, and become the indicting agents of a committee self-elected, in inquisitorial autho- rity over their fellow-citizens; and whose chief object was, not enquiry, but the ruin of the Corporation. And we charge them with leaving the city twelve months de- prived of that wholesome cure, authority, it so much required, and which it could not obtain while its Magis- trates were considered as the culprits who had laid it in ruins. From the greater we may come to lower delinquents. We charge the local orators, that by their highly inflam- matory speeches, they directed the mob to atrocious violence, — to an unjust hatred of their better fellow-citi- zens — of the resident Bishop and clergy, — that they had, as it were, broken up the peace and order of the city ; and we charge them as in this way being the pro- moters of all the conflagrations, and their consequences. We charge Edward Protheroe, Esq., member for the city, with having thwarted the Magistrates in their attempts to procure protection for the city, and with having issued an order to the Political Union that the people should not “ be quiet.” We believe, firmly, the time will come when all these parties will in one way or another be put upon their trials. It may be asked — What is the present state of that venerable and once bright city? Too many, indeed, within it have thrown about their firebrands — have raised their sacrilegious hands, and lifted their voices against the holy temple, aud have said — “ Down with it, down with it, even to the ground and have bowed in the very streets, to the new deity they have set up, Revolution. Her priests have painted and wrapped round the image with a vesture of many colours to hide the blood-stained deformity. But the people in their zeal of adoration have approached too near, and have torn away the embalments and tri-coloured wrappings XXV of the Idol Mummy, of more than Egyptian superstition, and 1 ave discovered that they have worshipped but the concealed carcass of an ape. During* a great part of the last twelve months of slander, calumny, and persecution of the Magistrates, during which our culpable Government have put in abeyance that due civic respect and authority which could alone ensure the recovery of the city, it lias pre- sented a scene of internal mistrust and distraction, de- cay of trade, and failure of merchants, unexampled. The admirers of confusion have been gratified to their heart’s content. But there is now a reaction ! The mass of citizens have awakened from the gross delusion, and have again called upon those excellent Conservatives, that in anxious retirement have waited the time. Those very parties paraded by the Revolu- tionists in bands, the Operatives of the Trades, have been the first to come forward and shake off the bondage, the unbearable bondage, of their new tyrants, and have proclaimed their return to conservative principles. They have forsaken the heat and uproar of the Pandemonium revels; have retired, “in the cool of the day,” to hear a better “ voice, and be afraid.” The Conservatives in Bristol, it is gratifying to know, are now as strong and powerful as in any part of the kingdom. The re-action has made them, we believe, supreme. They have in- vited Sir Richard Vyvyan, one of the firmest and most talented champions of the constitution. Of his success over the Radicals, no doubt can be entertained. That the virulent party will still make every effort that ma- lignity, defeat, and disappointment can suggest, must be expected ; for too many of them are of an insanity that no hellebore can remove, and will roar and brawl to the end. But the mass of citizens look to their ruined homes, their ruining fortunes ; they see what the city is, and remember what it has been. They ask them- selves, if it shall resemble the “ Cities of the Plain,” that after the fire has consumed them, and the waters of de- solation have gone over their ruins, rise no more, but send forth, as memorials of their existence and crime, the scum and stench from beneath — or shall it rise, pu- rified from its pestilential vapours and the scum that lias risen to the surface — shall it emerge from the “ sea of troubles” that has so long overwhelmed it, in reno- vated loyalty and prosperity? — We believe it will. XXVI Iii consequence of this verdict of acquittal of the Ma- gistrates, (for no man in his senses can doubt the ac- quittal extends to all,) Sir R. Vyvyan has, with the best feeling and judgment, addressed the citizens. “ The calamities of last year,” says Sir Richard, it is now solemly determined, are not attributable to the miscon- duct of your local authorities. Therefore, as the cause of the injury which the public, as well as individuals, have sustained, was not local, but national, it is my opinion that, in strict justice, the charges of compensation ought also to be national.” The jury have pretty clearly determined where the blame rests. The city of Bristol should loudly demand to be released from the burthen which now so heavily presses on them. If this subject, as it ought, be brought before Parliament, we venture to assert that the unsuccessful experiment of “ The Movement” at Bristol has prevented a more dangerous revolutionary attempt and simultaneous movement in most of the large cities and towns of the kingdom. We venture to assert that a deep-laid conspiracy may be discovered, affecting the whole empire. The case of the excellent Bishop, whose palace has been burnt to the ground, and property plundered, is one of peculiar hardship. The loss to him is irreparable. Something more than idle sympathy is required. It would not be unreasonable that he should request of Earl Grey “ to set his house in order” for him. Perhaps if the Premier took this charge upon himself, his people would not again level it to the ground. If we are to remain a Christian people, let all well weigh the matter — that there can scarcely a greater disgrace befall them than patiently to see their religion and its ministers insulted aud injured without reparation. The citizens of Bristol should remember, that, if they would pray for the peace of their Jerusalem ; “ if they would have peace within her walls, and plenteousness within her palaces,” they should have a zealous care for the servants of the Gocl to whom they offer their peti- tions. As they rejoice, and they do rejoice, in this acquittal and proved honourable conduct of their Ma- gistrates, let them look to more sure protection, and remember that they have received a prophetic warning from their forefathers, in the choice of the motto to their public seal — that “ Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.” “ Nisi Deus custodierit civitatem, frustra vigilat qui custodit.” COPY OF TIIE INFORMATION. PLEAS before our Lord the King, at Westminster, of Easter Term, in the second year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord William the Fourth, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, King Defender of the Faith. Amongst the Pleas of the King. — Roll. CITY of BRISTOL and*) BE IT REMEMBERED, that Sir COUNTY of the same J- Thomas Denman, Knight, Attorney- CITY — to wit.- J General of our present Sovereign Lord the King, who for our said Lord the King in this behalf prosecuteth in his proper person, comes here into the Court of our said Lord the King, before the King himself at Westminster, on Monday, the sixteenth day of April, in this same Term, and for our said Lord the King, brings into the Court of our said Lord the King, before the King himself then here, a certain Information against Charles Pinney, late of the city of Bristol and county of the same city. Esq . ; which said Information followeth in these words, that is to say: — City of Bristol and County of the same City, to wit. Be it remembered, that Sir Thomas Denman, Knight, Attorney-General of our Sove- reign Lord the King, who for our said Lord the King in this behalf prosecuteth in his proper person, cometh here into the Court of our said Lord the King, before the King himself at Westminster, on Monday, the sixteenth day of April, in this same Term, and for our said Lord the King giveth the Court here to understand and be informed, that heretofore, to wit, on the twenty-ninth day of October, in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and thirty-one, and before and afterwards, and at all and each of the several times hereinafter mentioned, Charles Pinney, late of the city of Bristol and county of the same city. Esq., was Mayor of the said city, and one of the Justices of our said Lord the King, assigned to keep the peace in and for the said city of Bristol and county of the same city, and also to hear and determine divers felonies, tres- passes, and other misdemeanours, committed within the said city and county. And the said Attorney-General gives the Court here to understand and be informed, that heretofore, to wit, on the said twenty-ninth day of October, in the year aforesaid, in the said city and county, there had been divers tumults, riots, routs, and un- lawful assemblies of great numbers of evil-disposed persons, within the said city and county, and divers and violent breaches of the peace of our Lord the King, and divers violent attacks and out- rages had been committed in the said city and county, upon the persons and property of divers of hi« said Majesty’s subjects there; whereof the said Charles Pinney, so being such Mayor and Justice as aforesaid, then and there had notice. And the said Attorney-General *XVlll further says, that on the next day after the said twenty-ninth day of October, to wit, on the thirtieth day of October, in the year aforesaid, to wit, in the city and county aforesaid, divers wicked and evil-disposed persons, to the number of five thousand and more, whose names are at present unknown to the said Attorney- General, with force and arms, unlawfully, riotously, routously, and tumultuously assembled themselves together in different parts of the said city and county, armed with iron bars, iron crows, pickaxes, hammers, pieces of wood, and bludgeons, with intent to disturb the public peace, and to make riots, routs, tumults, and affrays in the city and county, and to commit breaches of the peace and outrages upon the persons and property of his Majesty’s peaceable subjects there; of all which premises the said Charles Pinney, so being such Mayor and Justice as aforesaid, then and there also had notice. And the said Attorney-General further says, that divers, to wit, three thou- sand of the said persons, so being unlawfully, riotously, routously, and tumultuously assembled together, armed as aforesaid, and divers other persons, to the said Attorney-General also unknown, after- wards, to wit, on the day and year last aforesaid, at the city and county aforesaid, with force and arms, wickedly and unlawfully attacked, and with the said hammers, pickaxes, iron crows, iron bars, and pieces of wood, forced and broke open a certain common and public gaol or prison there, called the Bridewell, and then and there made a great riot, noise, tumult, and affray there, for a long space of time, to wit, for eight hours, and during that time unlaw- fully, wilfully, maliciously, and with force, burned, demolished, and destroyed the said gaol or prison, and rescued divers, to wit, one hundred prisoners, who were then and there lawfully confined in the said gaol or prison, and suffered them to go at large ; whereof the said Charles Pinney, so being such Mayor and Justice aforesaid, then and there, to wit, on the day and year last aforesaid, in the city and county aforesaid, also had notice. And the said Attorney- General, in fact, further saith, that afterwards, to wit, on the same day and year last aforesaid, at the city and county aforesaid, a great number, to wit, three thousand of the said persons, so being riot- ously, routously, and tumultuously assembled as aforesaid, armed as aforesaid, and divers other persons also, to the said Attorney-General unknown, with force and arms, wickedly and unlawfully attacked, and with the said hammers, pickaxes, iron crows, iron bars, and pieces of wood, forced and broke open a certain other public and common gaol or prison, in the city and county aforesaid, called The Gaol, and then and there made another great riot, noise, tumult, and affray there, for a long space of time, to wit, for six hours, and during that time unlawfully, wilfully, maliciously, and with force, partly burned, demolished, and destroyed the same, and rescued and set at large divers, to wit, one hundred prisoners, who were then and there lawfully confined in the said last-mentioned Gaol, to wit, at the city and county aforesaid; whereof the said Charles Pinney, so being such Mayor and Justice as aforesaid, then and there also had notice. And the said Attorney-General, in fact, further saith, that afterwards, to wit, on the same day and year last aforesaid, at the city and county aforesaid, a great number, to wit, three thousand of the said persons, so being riotously, routously, XXIX and tumultuously assembled as aforesaid, armed as aforesaid, and divers other persons, also to the said Attorney-General unknown, with force and arms, wickedly and unlawfully attacked, and with the said hammers, pickaxes, iron crows, iron bars, and pieces of wood, forced and broke open a certain messuage and dwelling- house, in the city and county aforesaid, of and belonging to the Lord Bishop of Bristol, and then and there made another great tumult, riot, disturbance, and affray, for a long space of time, to wit, for the space of eight hours, and then and there during that time unlawfully, wilfully, maliciously, and with force, burned and demolished the said messuage and dwelling-house, and wholly de- stroyed the furniture and other goods and chattels therein, to wit, at the city and county aforesaid ; whereof the said Charles Pinney, then and there being such Mayor and Justice as aforesaid, then and there also had notice. And the said Attorney-General, in fact, further saith, that afterwards, to wit, on the same day and year last aforesaid, at the city and county aforesaid, a great number, to wit, three thousand of the said personss so being riotously, routously, and tumultuously assembled as aforesaid, armed as aforesaid, and divers other persons, also to the said Attorney-General unknown, wilfully and mali- ciously, and with great force and violence, attacked, forced, and broke open divers, to wit, one hundred messuages and one hundred dwelling-houses, of and belonging respectively to divers of his Majesty’s subjects, situate in a certain place in the said city and county, to wit, in a certain place there, called Queen-square, and then and there made a great riot, noise, tumult, disturbance, and affray there, for a long space of time, to wit, for twelve hours, and during that time then and there unlawfully, wilfully, maliciously, and with force, burnt, demolished, and destroyed the said messuages and dwelling-houses, and the furniture and other goods and chattels therein, and stole, took, and carried away, divers goods and chattels of and belonging to divers of his said Majesty’s subjects, then and there being, and greatly terrified and alarmed the inhabitants of the said city and county; of all which said last-mentioned premises the said Charles Pinney, so being such Mayor and Justice as aforesaid, then and there had notice, to wit, in the city and county aforesaid. — Nevertheless, the said Attorney-General, in fact, saith, that the said Charles Pinney, so then and there being such Mayor and Justice of the Peace as aforesaid, and well knowing of the said riots, tumults, and affrays, and of the said burning, demolishing, and destroying of the said gaols and messuages, and of all other the premises aforesaid; but, disregarding, and wilfully and wrongfully neglecting, the duties of his said office, as such Justice of the Peace as aforesaid, did not then and there suppress or put an end to, or endeavour to suppress and put an end to, or use due means or exertions to suppress and put an end to, the said riots, tumults, and affrays, and to the said burning, demolishing, and destroying of the said gaols and messuages, and the violences, breaches of the peace, and outrages as aforesaid, as he could and might and ought to have done, or endeavour to execute the powers and authorities by the laws of this realm vested in him the said Charies Pinney, as such Justice of the Peace as aforesaid in that behalf. But the said Charles Pinney, then and there, to wit, on the day and year first XXX aforesaid, and from thence continually during all the time aforesaid, in the city and county aforesaid, wilfully and unlawfully neglected his duty in that behalf, and omitted to suppress and put an end to, and to endeavour to suppress and put an end to, the said riots, tumults, and affrays, and the said burning of the said gaols and messuages, and the said violences, breaches of the peace, and out- rages aforesaid, and to provide and organize sufficient force for suppressing the same, altho’ he was, on the day and year first afore- said, and frequently afterwards during the time aforesaid, requested so to do, to wit, in the city and county aforesaid ; but the said Charles Pinney, during all the time aforesaid, wholly refused and neglected so to do, or to give such orders and directions as were necessary for restoring peace and tranquillity in the said city and county, and as he the said Charles Pinney was of duty bonnd to have given, and did withdraw and conceal himself, not only from the said persons so unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assem- bled as aforesaid, but also from all such of his Majesty’s loyal and peaceable subjects, then and there being in the said city and county, as stood in need of his the said Charles Pinney’s orders and assist- ance, and did wilfully and unlawfully neglect and omit to execute or endeavour to execute any of those powers or authorities by the laws of this realm vested in him the said Charles Pinney, as such Justice of the Peace as aforesaid in that behalf; and did then and there wilfully and unlawfully permit and suffer the said persons, so unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assembled as aforesaid, to be and continue so unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assembled, in the commission of the aforesaid violences, burnings, and destruc- tions of property, hreaches of the peace and outrages, for a long space of time, to wit, during all the time aforesaid, to wit, in the city arid county aforesaid, contrary to the duty of his said office as Justice of the Peace as aforesaid, in contempt of our said Lord the King and his laws, to the evil example of all others in like case offending, and against the peace of our said Lord the King, his crown and dignity. AND the said Attorney-General further giveth the Court here to understand and be informed, that heretofore, to wit, on the said twenty-ninth day of October, in the year of our Lord One thousand eight hundred and thirty-one aforesaid, and before and afterwards, and at all and each of the several times herein- after mentioned, the said Charles Pinney was one of the Justices of our said Lord the King, assigned to keep the Peace in and for the said city of Bristol, and county for the same city’, and also to hear and determine divers felonies, trespasses, and other mis- demeanors, committed within the said city and county. And, the said Attorney-General, further gives the Court here to understand, and be informed, that on the said twenty-ninth day of October, in the year aforesaid, in the said city and county, divers wicked, malicious, and evil-disposed persons, to the number of five thousand and more, whose names are at present unknown to the said Attorney- General, with force and arms, unlawfully, riotously, routously, and tumultuously assembled themselves together, in divers parts of the said city and county, armed with iron bars, iron crows, pick-axes, hammers, and bludgeons, in the said city and county, and remained XXXI and continued so unlawfully, riotously, routously, and tumultuously assembled together for a long space of time, to wit, for the space of two days and two nights, then next following, and during that time, made divers great riots, routs, disturbances, and affrays, and committed divers breaches of the peace of our said Lord the King, in the said city and county; and during the time aforesaid, violently, riotously, unlawfully, maliciously, and with force, broke open, burned, demolished, and destroyed divers, to wit, two public and common Gaols and Prisons, in the said city and county, and then, and there, rescued, and set at liberty divers, to wit, two hundred prisoners, who were then and there lawfully confined in the said Gaols and Prisons, and during the time aforesaid, wilfully, maliciously, and with great force and violence, attacked, broke open, burnt, de- molished, and destroyed a certain messuage in the said city and county of, and belonging to the Lord Bishop of Bristol, and divers, to wit, one hundred other messuages, and one hundred other dwelling houses, in the city and county of, and belonging to divers of his Majesty’s subjects respectively; and unlawfully, wickedly, and maliciously, and with force, burnt and destroyed divers goods and chattels of and belonging to divers of his Majesty’s subjects, then and there being, and greatly terrified and alarmed the inhabitants of the said city and county, of all which said premises the said Charles Pinney, so being such Justice as aforesaid, during the time aforesaid, to wit, on the day and year first aforesaid, and from time to time, whilst the said riots, routs, tumults, and affrays, and the said attacking, breaking open, burning, and destroying of the said Gaols, and messuages, and burning and destroying the said goods and chattels were going on, and proceeding, and being done, and com- mitted as last aforesaid, was informed, and had notice, to wit, in the city and county aforesaid. Nevertheless, the said Attorney-General in fact saith that the said Charles Pinney, so then and there being such Justice of the peace as aforesaid, and well knowing of the said riotous, unlawful, and tumultuous assembly, and of all other the premises aforesaid, but disregarding, and wilfully and wrongfully neglecting the duties of his said office of Justice of the peace as aforesaid, did not then and there suppress, or put an end to, or en- deavour to suppress, and put an end to, or use due means or ex- ertions to suppress, or put an end to the said riotous, routous, unlawful, and tumultuous assembly, or to the said breaking open, burning, and demolishing of the said Gaols and Prisons, and rescuing and setting at liberty therein, or to the said breaking open, burning, and demolishing of the said messuages or dwelling houses, or the burning and destroying of the goods and chattels of the said subjects of our said Lord the King, as aforesaid, as he could, and might, and ought to have done, or endeavoured to execute the powers and authorities of the Laws of this Realm, vested in him, the said Char es Pinney, as such Justice of the peace as aforesaid, in that behalf. But the said Charles Pinney, then and there, to wit, on the day and year first aforesaid, and from thence continually, during the time aforesaid, in the city and county aforesaid, wilfully and unlaw- fully neglected his duty in that behalf, and omitted to suppress, and put an end to, and to endeavour to suppress and put and end to the said riotous, unlawful, and tumultuous assembly, and the said riots XXX11 routs, tumults, and affrays, and the said breaking open, burning, and destroying the said Gaols and messuages, and the said burning of goods and chattels, and to provide, and organize sufficient force for suppressing the same, although he was, on the day and year first aforesaid, and frequently afterwards, during the time aforesaid, re- quested so to do, to wit, in the county and city aforesaid. But the said Charles Pinney, during all the time aforesaid, wholly refused so to do, or to give such orders and directions as were necessary for restoring peace and tranquillity in the said city and county, and as the said Charles Pinney was of duty bound to have given, and did withdraw and conceal himself, not only from the said persons so un- lawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assembled, as aforesaid, but also from all such of his Majesty’s loyal and peaceable subjects then and there being, in the said city and county, who might stand in need of his the said Charles Pinney’s orders and assistance, and did wilfully and unlawfully neglect and omit to execute, or en- deavour to execute any of those powers or authorities by the laws of this realm, vested in him, the said Charles Pinney, as such Justice of the peace as aforesaid, in that behalf, and did then, and there, wilfully and nnlawfully permit, and suffer the said persons so un- lawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assembled as aforesaid, to be and continue so unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assembled in the commission of the aforesaid violence, burnings, and destruc- tions, for a long space of time, to wit, during all the time aforesaid, to wit, in the city and county aforesaid, contrary to the duty of his said office as Justice of the peace as aforesaid, in contempt of our said Lord the King, and his laws; to the evil example of all others in like case offending, and against the peace of our said Lord the King, his Crown, and Dignity. And the said Attorney-General further giveth the Court here to understand, and be informed, that here- tofore, to wit, on the thirtieth day of October, in the year of our Lord, One thousand eight hundred and thirty one, aforesaid, and before, and afterwards, and at all and each of the several times hereinafter mentioned, the said Charles Pinney, Esq., was one of the Justices of our said Lord the King, assigned to keep the peace in and for the said city of Bristol, and county of the same city ; and also to hear and determine divers felonies, trespasses, and other mis- demeanors committed within the said city and county. And the said Attorney-General further gives the Court here to understand, and be informed, that on the said thirtieth day of October, in the year aforesaid, in the said city and county, divers wicked, malicious, and evil-disposed persons, to the number of one thousand and more, whose names are at present unknown to the said Attorney-General, with force and arms unlawfully, riotously, routously, and tumul- tuously assembled themselves together, armed with iron bars, iron crows, pick-axes, hammers, sticks, staves, and bludgeons, in the said city and county, and remained and continued so unlawfully, riotously, routously, and tumultuously assembled together for a long space of time, to wit, for the space of forty-eight hours, then next following, and during that time made a great riot, rout, disturbance, and affray, and during the time aforesaid, forcibly, violently, and riotously broke open, burned, and destroyed divers, to wit, two public and common Gaols and Prisons in the said city and county, XXX111 and then and there rescued and set at liberty divers, to wit, two hundred prisoners, who were then and there lawfully confined in the said Gaols and Prisons, and during the time aforesaid, wilfully, and maliciously, and with great force and violence, attacked, broke open, burnt, demolished, and destroyed divers, to wit, one hun- dred messuages, and one hundred dwelling-houses, in the said city and county, and belonging to divers of his Majesty's subjects, and wickedly, unlawfully, and maliciously burnt, and destroyed divers goods and chattels of, and belonging to divers of his Majesty's sub- jects, then and there being, and then and there greatly terrified and alarmed the inhabitants of the said city and county; of all which said premises the said Charles Pinney, so being such Justice as aforesaid, during all the time aforesaid, was informed, and had notice, to wit, in the city and county aforesaid. Nevertheless, the said Attorney- General in fact saith that the said Charles Pinney, so then and there being such Justice of the peace as aforesaid, and well knowing of the said riotous, unlawful, and tumultuous assembly, and of all other the premises aforesaid, but disregarding the duties of his said office, did not then and there suppress, or put an end to, or endeavour to suppress and put an end to, or use due means or exertions to sup- press and put an end to the said riotouj, routous, unlawful, and tumultuous assembly, or to the said breaking open, burning, and demolishing of the said Gaols and Prisons, and rescuing, and setting at liberty the prisoners therein, or to the said breaking open, burning, and demolishing of the said messuages or dwelling-houses, or of the burning and destroying of the goods and chattels of the said subjects of our said Lord the King, as aforesaid, or endeavour to execute the powers and authorities by the laws of this realm vested in him the said Charles Pinney, as such Justice of the peace as aforesaid in that behalf. But the said Charles Pinney, then and there, to wit, on the day and year first aforesaid, and from thence continually during the time aforesaid, in the city and county aforesaid, wilfully and unlawfully neglected his duty in that behalf, and omitted to suppress and put an end to the said riotous, unlawful, ar.d tumul- tuous assembly, and to provide and organize sufficient force for sup- pressing the same, although he was, on the day and year first afore- said, and frequently afterwards, during the time aforesaid, requested so to do, to wit, in the city and county aforesaid ; but the said Charles Pinney, during all the time aforesaid, wholly refused to give such orders and directions as were necessary for restoring peace and tranquillity, and as he the said Charles Pinney was of duty bound to have given, and did withdraw and conceal himself, not only from the said persons so unlawfully, riotously, ynd tumultuously assembled as aforesaid, but from all such of his Majesty’s loyal and peaceable subjects then and there being, in the said city and county, who might stand in need of his the said Charles Pinney’s order and as- sistance, and did wilfully and unlawfully neglect and omit to execute, or endeavour to execute any of those powers or authorities bv the laws of this realm vested in him the said Charles Pinney, as such Justice of the peace as aforesaid, in that behalf, and did then and there unlaw- fully permit, and suffer the said persons so unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously assembled as aforesaid, to be and continue so unlaw- fully, riotously, and tumultuously assembled in the commission of the c XXXIV aforesaid violences, burnings, and destructions for a long space of time, to wit, during all the time aforesaid, to wit, in the city and county aforesaid, contrary to the duty of his said office as Justice of the peace as aforesaid, in contempt of our said Lord the King, and his laws, to the evil example of all others in like case offending, and against the peace of our said Lord the King, his Crown and Dignity. Whereupon, the said Attorney-General of our said Lord the King, in this behalf, prosecuteth for our said Lord the King, prayeth the consideration of the Court here, in the premises, and that due process of law may be awarded against him the said Charles Pinney, in this behalf, to make him answer to our said Lord the King, touching and concerning the premises aforesaid. Wherefore, the Sheriffs of the said city of Bristol, and county of the same city, are commanded that they cause him to come to answer to our said Lord the King, touching and concerning the premises aforesaid. And now, that is to say, on the same sixteenth day of April, in the same Term, before our said Lord the King, at Westminster, cometh the said Charles Pinney, by John Oliver Jones, his Clerk in Court, and having heard the said Information read, he saith that he is Not Guilty thereof, and hereupon he putteth himself upon the country. And the said Attorney-General, who for our said Lord the King, in this behalf prosecuteth, doth the like. INDEX. First Day’s Proceedings. page Names of the Jury 1 Opening Speech of the Attorney-General l Mr. John Walker Newcombe’s evidence 29 cross-examination 37 Mr. John Cossens' evidence 44 cross-examination 48 re-examination 50 Mr. Samuel Waring’s evidence 50 cross-examination 58 re-examination 60 Mr. Thomas Sheppard’s evidence 61 cross-examination 66 re-examination 67 Second Day. Mr. Samuel Selfe’s evidence 68 — cross-examination 73 • re-examination 77 James Townsend’s evidence 77 cross-examination 83 re-examination 86 Mr. George Humphries’ evidence 86 cross-examination 87 Mr. Thomas Reynolds’ evidence 87 cross-examination 90 re-examination 91 Mr. James Prowse’s evidence 92 cross-examination 94 Mr. Charles Gardiner’s evidence 97 cross-examination 98 XXXV 1 PAGE Mr. Daniel T. Macarthy’s evidence 98 cross-examination 101 Rev. Thomas Roberts’s evidence 101 cross-examination 105 Mr. Isaac Cooke’s evidence 107 cross-examination 110 Mr. Henry C. Quinton’s evidence Ill cross-examination 112 Third Day. Thomas Hayman’s evidence 112 cross-examination 114 James Wolfe’s evidence 116 cross-examination 117 re-examination 117 Mr. John N. Keegan’s evidence 118 Mr. Robert Morris’s evidence 118 cross-examination 120 Rev. Dr. Carpenter’s evidence 120 cross-examination 123 Rev. Francis Edgeworth’s evidence 123 cross-examination 127 re-examination 130 Mr. Henry Bulgin’s evidence 130 cross-examination 134 Mr. Benjamin H. Green’s evidence 137 cross-examination 140 Mr. James Jenkins’s evidence 142 cross-examination 144 Mr. William Protheroe’s evidence 145 cross-examination 148 re-examination 149 Seijeant Platt’s evidence 149 cross-examination 152 Serjeant Dinidge’s evidence 153 cross-examination 155 Mr. Samuel O. Goldney’s evidence 155 cross-examination 157 Mr. Wintour Harris’s evidence 158 cross-examination 158 Mr. James Bush’s evidence 159 cross-examination 160 XXXV11 Fourth Day. page Mr. Benjamin Ralph’s evidence 161 cross-examination 164 The Mayor’s Statement to Lord Melbourne 166 Lord Hill 173 Captain Codrington’s evidence 176 cross-examination 178 re-examination 180 Mr. Edward Goss’s evidence 180 cross-examination 183 Major Beckwith’s evidence 184 cross-examination 186 DEFENDANT’S CASE. Sir James Scarlett’s Address to the Jury 188 Fifth Day. Evidence for the Defendant. Mr. William Ody Hare’s evidence 252 cross-examination 265 re-examination 267 Mr. Daniel Burges’s evidence 267 cross-examination 283 re-examination 284 Mr. Sergeant Ludlow’s evidence 285 cross-examination 298 Major Mackworth’s evidence 301 cross-examination 305 re-examination 306 Captain Cooke’s evidence 308 cross-examination 309 re-examination 310 Major Mackworth re-called 310 Mr. William D. Brice’s evidence 311 cross-examination 312 Sixth Day. Mr. Henry Daniel’s evidence 313 cross-examination 317 Mr. Daniel Fripp’s evidence 320 ' cross-examination 322 XXXV111 PAGE Mr. John Fisher’s evidence 322 Mr. William Harmar’s evidence 323 cross-examination 328 re-examination 331 Mr. Richard B. Callender’s evidence 332 cross-examination 332 re-examination 333 Rev. James Bulwer’s evidence 333 cross-examination 335 John Hobbs’s evidence 336 cross-examination 338 Mr. Valentine Hellicar’s evidence 340 cross-examination 340 re-examination 342 Mr. Isambird Brunell’s evidence 343 cross-examination 343 Mr. Christopher Claxton’s evidence 344 Mr. James W. Gibbons’s evidence 345 cross-examination 346 Mr. John Wood’s evidence 346 cross-examination 347 re-examination 348 James Byrne’s evidence 348 cross-examination 349 Mr. James Cunningham’s evidence 349 cross-examination 352 re-examination 353 Sir James Scarlett declines to call further evidence for the Defendant 354 The Attorney-General’s Reply 354 Seventh Day. Mr. Justice Littledale’s Summing-up 391 Verdict of Acquittal, and special opinion of the Jury on the conduct of the Defendant 431 Altercation between the Leading Counsel 431 Conversation respecting the trials of the Informations against other Magistrates 432 TRIAL, &c. THE KING, versus CHARLES PINNEY, Esquire. COURT OF KING’S BENCH, Thursday , 25th October , 1832. The Special Jury panel was called over, and the following gentlemen of the county of Berks were sworn : — John Hopkins, Esq. John Blagrave, Esq. John Sivewright, Esq. John Hughes, Esq. Charles Medley, Banker. Robert Mangles, Esq. Edmund Gardiner, Esq. George Butler, Esq. Edward Golding, Esq. Charles Bickham, Esq. Thomas Harman, Esq. Charles Townsend, Esq. The Information was opened by Mr. Wightman. Mr. Attorney-General. — “ May it please your Lordship, — Gentlemen of the Jury, “ You have heard from my learned friend, Mr. Wightman, that you are called from your homes in the discharge of a most important duty, for the trial of an individual who has been placed in an office of high trust and authority, and who stands charged with having betrayed that trust by not exer- cising that authority for the protection of those who were placed under his care. He was the Mayor of Bristol at the time that dangerous riots took place there, and we charge B 2 him, on this information, during nearly forty-eight hours of riot, when that city was in a state of confusion and conster- nation, the most alarming and most dangerous, and when crimes of the deepest dye were committing under the eyes of all, with having neglected the duty of that office, — with having abandoned that duty, — with having withdrawn from being known and discovered by those who might require him to act in the discharge of his office. Such is the very important accusation which we prefer against Mr. Pinney. “I am sure it will be needless for me to intreat your most careful attention to all the facts that we shall lay before you, convinced as I am, upon the statement I have received, that in the result no doubt can be entertained that that charge will be most fully substantiated. The basis of the accusation, gentlemen, is perfectly public and notorious ; it must be proved almost as a matter of form to-day, as it is unquestion- ably known to all of you, and to all the king’s subjects, and indeed to the whole civilized world, that the city of Bristol, one of the very first rank in the British empire, was, for the long period I have mentioned, in the state that I have des- cribed ; when it is further added, as it appears upon this infor- mation, that three Jails, two within the city and one in its immediate vicinity, were broken open by a lawless mob, — that the prisoners were let loose for the perpetration of fresh crimes, — that spoliation and plunder were carried on for a great length of time, — that not only these three Jails were des- troyed by fire, but that the Mansion-house of the Chief Magistrate was also so destroyed ; that the Bishop’s palace was reduced to a heap of ruins, and that after that period the houses of many individuals were plundered and demolished, to the extent of little short of forty of the best houses in the town. I state nothing but what is familiar to you all, but which I think, in the mind of all, raises at once a prima facie case against the Magistrates who were invested with authority* and leads every one to enquire, during that long and fearful period, where were those Magistrates — what was their conduct 3 —in what manner did they exert their authority — and what precautions did they take to prevent such dreadful evils ? It were an idle waste of time to gentlemen of your intelligence, to pretend to lay down the duties, as the law books describe them, of Magistrates upon those occasions. The very name of their office describes them sufficiently for the present purpose. All Magistrates are emphatically conservators of the peace. When the peace is threatened, when the peace is endangered, it is their duty to interfere to preserve it 5 and when it is broken, by the most alarming crimes, they are called upon by their office itself to endeavour to prevent those crimes by all the means in their power ; among which, the principal is the authority with which they are invested by the law, of com- pelling every man within the sound of their voice to take up arms, if it be necessary, and to employ all the force they are capable of assembling, for the preservation and restoration of the public peace. Such is the known duty of every Magis- trate — the duty assumed by all the gentlemen of England in their several counties — a duty imposed upon those corporate Magistrates, who, as in the present case, are, by their charter, invested with similar authority. “It is well known that the neglect of this duty may expose a Magistrate invested with this power to serious consequences. Though fortunately in our legal history the examples are but few, there are some of a remarkable nature 5 for in the riots which in the year 1780 ensued when the Parliament thought proper to relax the laws against the Roman Catholics, it is well known that the Lord Mayor of London was charged with a neglect of his duty, not very dissimilar to that imputed to the present defendant, and that he was brought to trial and convicted of that offence, though, from the accident of his dying before he could be brought up for judgment, there is no record of the ultimate conclusion of that proceeding. But, gentle- men, it is also well known that the law extends a liberal pro- tection to every Magistrate who acts bona fide in the exercise of his authority; it is well known that those who would be pu- ss 2 4 nislied if they did not exert their power would receive the fairest consideration of all their conduct, and the amplest protection the law would give to his intentions, even though they should not be with strict propriety exerted. The law requires every individual Magistrate, under such circumstances, to act with vigour, and decision, and resolution, for the protection of the peace 3 and in case of any small excess of power, covered by his own good intentions at the time, he need not be afraid of any severe consequences either of a civil or a criminal nature. “ I ought, gentlemen, perhaps, in the outset of the case to state to you, that there appears to have been very considerable mistake in the view which this gentleman took of the duty of his office 3 for while these dangerous riots were going on, it ap- pears to me he conceived that if he once called in the aid of the military for the purpose of putting down the disturbance that was raging, and if he required them to act upon their views of the necessity of the case, and of course upon their own responsibility, he altogether divested himself of his own 3 and I think that you will find that that unfortunate desire to with- draw from the duties of his office and to transfer them to the military officers, as though they had been the military governors of the city, ran through his whole conduct and led to the unfortunate consequences we have to deplore. But, gentlemen, it is well known it is an established law of the land, laid down in the House of Lords by Lord Mansfield and Lord Thurlow, on the occasion to which 1 have alluded, when the riots in the year 1780 were discussed, that a soldier in respect of his in- dividual duty stands in no other situation than the other King’s subjects j it is not because he is under military orders, or because an officer has a military power to issue them, that any thing like martial law exists in the country 3 they come in aid of the civil power, — the civil power is forced to act, the civil power is to place every other power in motion, and it is merely as King’s subjects, and not as a hostile force, that soldiers can be required to act in the most dangerous and alarming riots. Gentlemen, I am stating upon that occasion a doctrine which 5 is open to no question ; it has been laid down in all times by the highest authority 5 it was then stated, as I have mentioned, by those noble persons ; and it happens that that very useful work. Burn’s Justice, contains an opinion laid down by Lord Ellenborough, when he was chief justice, upon that subject ; and it so happens that in the late proceedings in the City of Bristol, when many of the unfortunate persons, who were led into crimes upon the occasion of those riots, were brought to trial. Lord Chief Justice Tindal laid down the same rule of law in the most distinct and perspicuous manner. There is no doubt that every one of the King’s subjects is authorized of his own head, if he thinks proper, to put down riots by any force within his power. Every military force which happens to be collected there is invested with the same authority 5 the officers may give those orders, but the military are always bound, from the dangerous nature of the weapons they employ, to act with the utmost caution upon the subject, and nothing can be so desirable as that the military should always have the authority of a Magistrate to conduct those proceedings which may be called for. Now, gentlemen, that cannot always be obtained j the Magistrates may be at a distance 5 but in this instance the Mayor was always upon the spot, and repeatedly calling upon the military officer. Colonel Brereton, unfortunately now no more, under circumstances to which I will not allude, to make an end of the riots which existed on the Saturday evening ; he gave it as a sort of commission that he was to go out into the streets and exercise his own authority, but he did not ac- company him at the moment for the purpose of seeing that that authority was properly exercised, or according to what he as a Magistrate felt to be a necessity that required its exercise. Gentlemen, I state this in general terms, because I think it will appear almost a leading principle in the mind of this gentleman throughout those proceedings. “On the Saturday morning, in the first place, it is perfectly well known that Sir Charles Wetherell coming as Recorder to open the assizes for the City of Bristol, was received with 6 great insult and contumely, that a mob assembled, and that when he went into the Mansion-house, the Mansion-house itself was assailed, not only with violent language, and with breaking windows and other acts of outrage, but that persons remaining did for several hours together break in the windows, and doors, and the walls, that they were able to enter the house in considerable force, and that even upon that evening they brought combustibles into the Mansion House for the purpose of greater and more horrible mischief. I may state at this moment, in passing, that the Mansion House is pro- vided for the residence of the Mayor, who is elected, not out of the Aldermen, but out of the Common Council, the Aider- men having each their ward of the City, but he having an authority which runs through the whole of the city ; but the Aldermen are required by Charter to be present, and the very oath of the corporate Magistrates is that they should be on the spot for the purpose of resisting any ebullitions of popular tumult which are so likely to occur when great bodies are called together. “ Gentlemen, it will appear that, in consequence of the pro- ceedings of the mob, the Riot Act was read, and the Magis- trates remonstrated with them, desiring them to leave the place, and stating, that if they should continue assembled in the riotous manner they were, some further measures would be necessary. They still continued assembled 5 the troops were sent for, the Riot Act was read a second time, and the troops, going forth among the mob, frequently cleared the streets without any bloodshed } but the mob were not alto- gether dispersed. In the course of that evening, more than once, Colonel Brereton was required to | clear the streets, in rather decisive terms, but Colonel Brereton could never obtain from the Magistrates those precise and specific orders which, in his judgment, w T ere necessary to enable him to take measures of more determined violence ; for when he was told to clear the streets, and inquired in what mode he was to proceed to do it, by the Magistrates, whether by violence or not, the / answer was, that he was to do it in any way he thought proper. But that was imposing upon him a responsibility that he might well pause before he undertook, for where a Magistrate gives the authority, he is to know that it will be properly exercised, and that the ground for its exercise does exist. The mob, in point of fact, were dispersed at different times 5 there was a cessation of that violence, and occasionally, as the individuals withdrew, several of the special constables were dismissed by the Magistrates themselves, they thinking there was no further danger. In the course of that night, however, independently of the attack upon the Mansion-house, which was in Queen-square, another act was done by the mob, which indicated more deep intentions of mischief, for the Council-house, at a distance, was attacked by a part of the mob. A party of the 14th Dragoons, which were in the town of Bristol in consequence of orders from the Government, in defending themselves against the mob, as they state, had fired some shots, and had killed one of the rioters, which led to a state of exasperation exceedingly unfortunate in reference to future events which occurred. “ I should state to you, now, that the Mayor and Magistrates had full expectation of the mischief which did arise. Several days before they stated to the Government their doubts whether Sir Charles Wetherell could prudently appear in the town at all j and it was afterwards agreed that he should appear, and that the Government should provide some troops in aid of the civil power, not with any view of having the city handed over to any military force, for the exercise of that authority which the small number of men, who could be spared for any par- ticular point, could not undertake 3 but it would be necessary, in order to have that military power act with any degree of effect, that the civil power should co-operate with it. On that night, however, these dangerous indications took place, and this most unfortunate circumstance of the man being shot produced a firing between some of the troops and the great bulk of the mob. 8 “Now, gentlemen, supposing I were to admit, which I do not, because .1 think there was much more to be done on that night than was in fact done 5 but supposing I were to admit, that the Mayor exercised the best of his power on that night of Saturday to prevent a tumult, the question would arise, how far he could possibly be justified, after such appearances as these, in not summoning all the Magistrates and all the civil force in the first place, to meet at the earliest possible hour on the Sunday morning, to see whether the same symptoms of mischief then continued, and to provide the means of putting it down } If such should be the case, it does not appear that either on the preceding evening, or on that morning, any sort of organization of the civil force took place. It has been said, that the conduct of the special constables was provoking to the mob — that they irritated them by making a sort of irregular sally against them now and then, for the space of two or three hours, when assembled against the front of the Mansion- house, but without making any general attack upon them j and, certainly, some of the Magistrates, and, I believe, the Mayor among the rest, threw some degree of blame upon the special constables for that line of conduct 5 but there was a total want of all organization of the civil force, beyond the fact of their calling forth about 300 special constables, some of them citizens who volunteered for that duty, and some hired for the purpose. Undoubtedly the Mayor did, on two occa- sions, read the Riot Act 5 but there was no personal interference of the Magistrates — no personal exposure of themselves as the leaders of that military force — no offer to go along with the military where the sword might be required to be used, as I apprehend you would think there ought to be, before the military were called upon to exercise their power on the bodies of the assembled multitude. But, gentlemen, on the next morning there was no provision made for any meeting of that kind. As early as seven o’clock the barricades which had been placed against the Mansion-house windows were pulled down by a large assemblage of the mob. I do not find any 9 proof in any statements on the part of the Magistrates, that they formed plans to collect any civil force for the purpose of restraining that mob. If they looked to the military, it is clear that the military would, after two or three charges, however destructive, have exhausted all their fire ; and if the mob continued assembled after the military had spent their force, without any civil force being collected to prolong that resistance, it is quite evident that such attacks by the military force would have left the city the more entirely at the mercy of the mob. But no civil force was collected 5 the Mansion- house was continued to be assailed, and there was one thing led to a greater excess, for the cellars were entered, and the wine was taken away, and a great portion of the mob becom- ing intoxicated, became exceedingly violent, until it was necessary for the Mayor, not having that force about him, which I apprehend he ought to have made some effort to call about him, was compelled to leave the Mansion-house, and go to the Council-house, and there endeavour to meet some of his fellow-citizens, whom he assembled in the manner that I will describe. " Gentlemen, the Mansion-house is in a part which is called Queen Square, the corner house of Queen Square and Char- lotte Street, — (I will hand a plan to you by and by) a part of the town considerably distant from the Council-house ; and in order to get from thence to the Council-house it would be necessary to cross a Drawbridge/ 0 leading to another part of the city, the city being intersected by various harbours and ba- sins. The Council-house was therefore at a considerable dis- tance from theMansion-house j the Mayor summoned the citizens to attend at the Council-house at half-past ten o’clock, but he did not so with the voice of authority, not as a man who knew he had a right to call them together, but he wrote a sort of pri- vate invitation, which left persons as free almost to go elsewhere * The Attorney-General was misinformed in this particular. 10 as to come, and which was not likely to be attended to, when without organization men were thus invited to meet the danger which presented itself. I do not know that the attendance was very large 5 there were numerous citizens in anxious hopes of being employed in order to suppress the violence going on, and to provide measures for future security, but there was no plan whatever devised by the Magistrates ; on the contrary there was a kind of advertising for plans, and a hope that some one would propose something or other, when there could be no- thing more distinct than the duty imposed on the Magistrate, namely, that he should call on every one to actj that he should insist on it by virtue of his authority 5 that every one, however high and superior to him on ordinary occasions, should become his officer for the purpose of repressing the riot. No such thing was attempted on his part ; on the contrary, debate and discussion was invited by the Magistrates 5 they hoped that something would be proposed. A great deal was said about the military 5 the military in consequence of the unfor- tunate shot which had taken effect the night before, appeared to Colonel Brereton to be in so very bad a state with reference to the mob, that it was his decided opinion they ought to re- tire from the town. I believe it will be proved to you that the Magistrates agreed in that opinion, though they were ex- tremely unwilling to lose any force that might be by possibility brought to bear upon the mob. “Gentlemen, it appears that about the hour of eleven, the assembled Magistrates received at the Council-house notice of an event of the most important description ; for I think it will appear to you that while a mob was pervading the town and getting the upper hand of the respectable citizens, one of the first objects should be to see that all the Jails were per- fectly fortified, and no attempt made to let loose the prisoners, and so increase the mob by the malefactors. They heard, about eleven o’clock, that the Bridewell was about to be at- tacked ; and now I will tell you the Council-house is at the corner of the street called Corn Street, and that the Bridewell is in fact in that very street ; that going down the street the Council-house forms the corner, and a little further on you come upon the Bridewell. The Bridewell therefore was very near the Council-house 5 persons were assembled at the Council-house for the purpose of knowing whether they could be beneficially employed j they heard at the Council-house that the Bridewell was about to be stormed, but nothing was done to save it. When that therefore was announced which ought to have been anticipated and rendered impossible, and you find no step taken to check those persons who were en- gaged in destroying the Bridewell, let me make this, which I think an important observation, with reference to the gene- ral conduct of the Mayor 3 that though many complaints were made against Colonel Brereton, for not doing that which the Magistrates required, under general orders, he was not directed to this place 3 he was not told there is a civil force which I will head, however small, and go and endeavour to defend that Bridewell, and I insist on your troops being present to support them in case they need support. Nothing of that sort was done on the part of the Mayor or the Magistrates, and during three hours the storming of that Bridewell took place by a mob really insignificant in numbers, and by no means exasperated in point of violence. During three hours that siege took place in the very neighbourhood of the. Council- house, and not a single attempt was made to prevent the Bridewell being destroyed 3 and that is the more singular and remarkable because it is within hearing. I mistook the geo- graphy, it is not in the same street with the Council-house, but in the same neighbourhood, and I apprehend within hearing when the hammers were beating down the walls 5 I apprehend they could not fail to hear what was going on. This Bride- well is most remarkably situated 5 there is the Governor’s House on one side and the Jail on the other, and a very narrow passage 3 that very narrow passage has gates at both ends opening into one street at one end, and a street at the other 3 a place more susceptible of defence is hardly possible to de- 12 scribe 5 and if only a few of tlie sheriff’s officers in attendance on the Corporation had been placed there when notice was first given that the Bridewell was about to be attacked, it must have been attended with success. On the contrary, after three hours, during which there were some citizens applying for instructions which they could not receive, the Mayor and Magistrates were expressing themselves in despondency from the want of military power ; there was during that period no resistance made ; this place was pulled down and the inhabi- tants of it became the plunderers of the town. “You will easily conceive, gentlemen, the encouragement given to wrong doers by such success; and you will not be surprised that having gone in the first place to rescue the riot- ers whom they supposed to be in the Bridewell, that they should go to rescue those whom they believed to be in the Jail, and that they should there pursue the same course of violence. No previous arrangement was made to prevent it ; and you will find that the Jailer, a servant of the Corporation, hearing what was likely to take place, and knowing from one triumph they were very likely to go on to another, came to the Magistrates at the Council-house and told them what was likely to take place, and asked for instructions, but no instruc- tions could be obtained ; there was some debating, and at last he impatiently asked, thinking he ought to be acting rather than receiving orders, what am I to do, gentlemen ? — The answer given by one of the Magistrates, in the hearing of the Mayor, was this most remarkable one, still shewing the same desire to evade responsibility : why, Mr. Humphries, I do not know; per- haps the mob might be appeased by the prisoners being set free; now mind, the Magistrates do not recommend that course to be taken, but if you should think fit to do it, and you think the mob will be pacified, that will be a matter for you to con- sider. Instead of providing him with all the means they would be able to command for making resistance, such was the in- decisive language they held to an officer having the principal control of the Jail of Bristol, as to the course he should pursue. 13 The Jail was soon afterwards attacked. Not even then were the military called upon to act. Surely the Magistrates might have said, we can muster twenty, thirty, or forty constables, and let them go and act with the troops, so that the troops may support them in case of resistance but some constables, with two of the Aldermen at their head, went at one time and the troops at another, without concert, one going out almost as the others came in the natural consequence was that the mob got the upper hand and drove them both off the place. “But, gentlemen, what I have said of the Bridewell, from its being so easily defensible, is still more applicable to the Jail, for there was never a place which presented a more complete front to the enemy than that; the walls are very powerful, and the approach extremely difficult j the doors are strong, and the entrance extremely narrow in the front of the Jail ; there is a float or basin in such a position that any person attacking it might have been driven into the float connected with the New Cut of the River Avon ; so that there never was a place which admitted of more easy defence than this Jail j and if there had been a little pre-concert between the Mayor and the command- ing officer of the troops, so that they could have been brought in to support and aid the civil force, I do not see how it is possible that that Jail should not have been successfully defen- ded. It was not defended, and the prisoners, to the number of 150, were let out of the Jail for the purposes of plunder and conflagration. Further measures of the same sort were resorted to j the Dock-gates were fired, the Toll-houses were fired, a third prison broken open, — not one within the jurisdiction of the town, but very near it, within the county of Gloucester, — the same mob committed that outrage, and of course re- leased so many other persons willing tojoin in the outrage. “ Gentlemen, I have stated, that during the time the Bride- well was fired, there was not a single effort made j during the firing of the Jail there was but one effort made, and that too late — of the nature I have stated 5 and I should mention, that during the whole of this day, there was one most remarkable 14 feature in the conduct of the Magistrates j when they talked of going to resist, or going not to resist, but of seeing what w 7 as going on, they were advised not to shew their staves — they were not to act as Magistrates, but to persuade these persons to disperse ; and among all the devices proposed, almost the only one resorted to, to restrain this most dreadful tumult, described by the Mayor himself as one of the most dreadful scenes which had ever been exhibited, was to get a dissenting minister, a gentleman, I believe, of great respectability and great power of eloquence, to go and make a speech to these persons a most hopeless exertion of eloquence I should think ; but still shewing that if the Mayor had any expectation that a speech would have any effect, those who would be accessible to that would not be altogether blind to their own interests, and if there had been a tolerably organized force accompanying the speaker, they would have thought a little of their situation, and have paused before they proceeded in such a course of crime. "Now, gentlemen, I have stated to you clearly what was going on, and the conduct of the Mayor and the Magistrates. The Mayor being the principal person who took the lead, the person naturally looked to as the leader, the constant efforts of the citizens to obtain employment, without being able to do so, for the preservation of the city, it was arranged that they should separate and meet again about half-past three o’clock. Then it was hoped something might be proposed. At that time many of the citizens did meet, — there was still no plan — still an invitation for discussion and debate, but no orders given, no authority exercised 5 nothing was said on the part of the Mayor shewing he felt himself in a situation to com- mand, lead, or do any thing to put down the most violent tumult that was then raging. But on the contrary, it was said by a gentleman, — indeed before that some of the citizens * said in reference to a particular ward or parish, — f we have less than eighty or near an hundred men capable of acting $’ upon which the Mayor said , ‘ I am very happy to hear it.’ f I hope,’ 15 said one of the gentlemen, • they will be permitted to use arms.’ The answer was, ' Oh, we must not use arms, — that is a very doubtful point, — every one may defend his own 3 but if they are to act against the mob, I can by no means authorize them to use arms.’ 'On the contrary,’ said the Mayor, 'they must not use arms 3 if they destroy any person they might be hanged for murder.’ Gentlemen, that was most assuredly a most singular piece of law and of common sense, at the very time they were calling upon the soldiers to come and employ the lead and steel for the destruction of those who stood about the streets doing little or nothing. To say that citizens could not disperse those who were destroying their property by these means, appears to me a very extraordinary view of their duty and their situation 3 it shews the degree of negligence which this information charges against the defendants. " Again, when they came at half-past three, when the same questions were put, ' what course must we take, and what are we to do V those gentlemen were all told, 'you must act upon your own responsibility, — every one of you must act upon your own responsibility, — we have no advice to give.’ And then it was said aloud at that meeting, 'it is now half- past three o’clock, — in an hour and an half it will be dark, and it is now necessary that every one of us should look to our own safety, — that we should take care of ourselves 3’ in short, that no concert was to be carried on, that no further attempt was to be made. Under those circumstances, that meeting, summoned at half-past three to consider of a concerted resis- tance to the tumult, was separated. This having been said in the presence of the Mayor, the Mayor neither approved nor dissented from that opinion, that they were each to look after their own safety, and that no care was to be taken as a united measure of the interests of the City of Bristol. " Gentlemen, another suggestion was made after this, which was adopted by the Mayor. Of course you are aware, not supposing I am a reporter of the debates at large, numerous conversations took place, which will be stated by the witnesses. 16 1 am giving you the result which I understand the witnesses will prove ; but it was suggested, that in the absence of the military, they had no chance of making head against the mob, but that they might call out the posse comitatis, and it was suggested at this time, between three and four o’clock, when damage was already done and was doing, and so much more likely to follow, that at six in the morning, at the distance of fourteen hours, the posse comitatis should come together, and then proceed to some act or other for which they were not then prepared, if any part of the mob should remain to be dispersed. Gentlemen, if that kind of mockery is to be practised, — if it should be possible to suppose, which I do not suppose, God knows that there was even a wish that this should go forward, — I do not know how that could be more effectually done than by the very palpable absurdity of telling persons to separate while the mob was plundering the city, to go home quietly while the mob was still increasing, and to meet again the next morning, when the whole evening and night had been devoted to their acts of plunder and devastation. They did not altogether separate at that time, — the Magis- trates remained at the Council-house. It was stated that another attack was made at the Mansion-house, on which certain observations were made j the Mansion-house was des- troyed that evening, and then there was word brought to the Council-house that the Bishop’s palace was about to be attacked. I believe it was at about that period that the witnesses stated, that they had a considerable number of most respectable gentlemen collected together who were exceedingly desirous of going to see whether they could make any impres- sion upon the mob; but, they said, we must be headed by the Chief Magistrate, — we must insist upon it that we shall be headed by him. The Mayor made a reference to some gentle- men there, and he said he would accompany them, and they went down to the street and gave three cheers for the Mayor as the leader of their body $ they then turned back in order to let him pass through them, but when they looked back, instead 17 of finding the Mayor to take the lead, they saw him return into the room from which he had come, and they then went on by themselves, but afterwards gave up the whole as hopeless, finding they were not led on by the Mayor. “ Gentlemen, the Bishop’s palace was fired 3 and the Mayor went down, it seems, to the College-green, which is near the Bishop’s palace, and there was the Recruiting Office of Colonel Brereton. He states himself that he was going to the Bishop’s palace in order to render some resistance, but what resistance he was likely to offer, or what he had the means of doing, or what civil force he had collected, I am not able to prove 3 — that will be proved perhaps by the other side 3 but he went twice to the office of Colonel Brereton 3 a message was sent for an old coat 3 the Mayor states, that seeing the main body of the mob coming in one direction, and thinking that the mob plundering the palace was likely to be joined by them, whatever force he had was too small to resist, and therefore he left that place. Now, whether there was any organization or anything like an authority that could have given resistance, I cannot say, but he went to the office of the Corporation and conversed there with the Town Clerk. He sent soldiers, some of whom I shall call, but merely to ask for the means of securing his own personal safety. He required to be told how he could escape, and after a good deal of waiting and watching, he did escape, and withdrew himself from the place, having looked from the Recruiting Office on the flames of the Bishop’s palace, and seen what the mob were doing. There was at the time a volunteer body of gentlemen who entered into a con- flict with the mob, and who at one time had almost succeeded in driving them out. I leave you to judge what effect it would have had upon the general chances of the safety of the town if the Magistrate had been there to give the comfort and aid of his presence, and to notify that the authority of the law was aiding in the resistance to that lawless attack. “Tt is charged, gentlemen, in this information, that the Mayor hid and secreted himself, so that he was not to be found by c 18 those who might wish to see him ; and that charge is to be made out from the period of his escape at the time the Bishop’s Palace was on fire; he then made his escape, and some time afterwards he called at the Sheriff’s, — I think in Park Street, further than Queen Square, — he called at the Sheriff’s and saw the servant ; another Alderman was with him, and he told the servant that he was going to a private house in Berkeley Square, Mr. Fripp’s, No. 30. He said to him, if any of the Aldermen want the Mayor he is to be found at No. 30, Ber- keley Square ; remember, if any of the Aldermen want him there. Upon which he said. Oh, I know what you mean ; I will take care not to betray his Worship. Accordingly, he said, he considered himself bound not to tell where the Mayor w r as gone. The Mayor went to this house in Berkeley Square between eleven and tw’elve at night I believe ; I do not know exactly, nor do I know' how to account for him betw een the time of his being at College Green and this time. He sent to Colonel Brereton a note, that he desired him to exert himself to put down the riot, and that he was to be found at Mr. Fripp’s in case a Magistrate should be wanted, (which Colonel Brereton w ? as at that very moment in search of) but he was not at the place to which that note w 7 as conveyed. But a most remarkable cir- cumstance happens here, namely, that the troops which had been actually sent for by the Magistrates entered the town, and that they were in search, with Colonel Brereton, of some Magistrate, to direct them what to do ; but they were not able to find the Mayor. Captain Codrington, who in the most praiseworthy manner had brought them, was parading the streets in hopes to find the Mayor, but could not. Early on the Sunday morning the Mayor had very properly sent a mes- senger from the Council-house to request Captain Codrington to bring the troops ; the messenger came back at the period I refer to, but he could find no Magistrate ; and when he was speedily followed by the gallant officer who brought the troops, on the summons he had received, that officer was equally in default ; he searched the town in vain for some considerable 19 time, and left the town with his troops because no Magistrate could be found to give him any direction. “ Gentlemen, at a later period of the night, two private gen- tlemen, one a medical man and another a gentleman in busi- ness, felt the alarming state of the city from seeing the houses in Queen Square one after another consigned to the flames, by a mob that was really insignificant ; many of them in a state of intoxication, and many extremely young, and proceeding to all this violence merely from the encouragement of not being opposed. These two gentlemen went in search of the Mayor, and after calling at one or two houses, they made a guess, and they happened to guess right, that the Mayor might be at the house of Mr. Fripp, in Berkeley Square. They went to the house, — Mr. Fripp came to the door ; they asked whether the Mayor w r as there ; for some time they could get no answer; after some time it was acknowledged he was there, and then a note was brought from the Mayor (he being up stairs at the time) accompanied by directions that they should not state where the Mayor was ; but that note, written by the Mayor, was a note to authorize the employment of military force to clear the town. This was at a distant part, a place where the Mayor no more saw at that moment, than you see at this moment, what was going on ; he had no power of guiding the movements of the military, but he left them to act on their own responsibility, without anything like a knowledge, as a Magis- trate, that the least necessity for such interference existed. “ I should state, gentlemen, also, that a Major Beckwith, with some of the King's troops at Gloucester, received a similar notice at one o’clock in the morning, and with great promptitude he led a small body of men into the city of Bristol. He also had some difficulty, but he did meet some of the Magistrates in the course of that morning ; and though he had a strong feeling of the necessity by all means of their presence as likely to prevent much mischief, he was extremely desirous of having the sanction and authority of the Magis- trates to act. It was then getting daylight, and seeing the c 2 20 Magistrates assembled at the Council-house, the Major re- quested them to act. He wished them to get on horseback and come into the streets, to which every one gave a refusal 5 some saying that their property would be endangered, — another, that he was not popular, — ano&er, that he had not rode for eighteen years, and so on $ — not one chose to accept the invita- tion to go and lead the troops. It may have been thought a little too much that a Magistrate should have got upon a horse that was strange to him ; but there was no attempt to place themselves along with him in a situation in which he could act ; in conse- quence Major Beckwith had to take it into his own hands. He rode through Queen Square on Monday, — the two sides of which were blazing, or reduced to ruins, — and a third begin- ning to be burnt 5 and with very few men, and very little trouble, he made an end of it in about a quarter of a hour. There is no doubt that the persons who were committing this violence were by that time exhausted ; but at all times there is a chance of making an impression on rioters. There was a peculiar facility, many being young, many being drunk, and there being at all times a great number of spectators rivetted to the spot by that curiosity which is highly culpable 5 but nine- tenths of those present appear to have been taking no part in that which was going on, and in great probability many of them might have been ready to take part with any person who took measures to put them down. It was put down by Major Beckwith, only one subsequent charge being made by the Major, after experiencing a loss of property to the amount of about £100,000, and I am afraid a loss of lives to the most formidable extent ; for among these ruins the unfortunate per- petrators of the mischief were found in great numbers, and many lives were lost by the charges the soldiers were obliged to make. mained there for some short time. What was done while you were there 1 Some reports were brought in, but 1 have a very indistinct recollection of them — but something that in- duced the Mayor to say he would return to the Council-house. And I believe you went back with the Mayor to the Council-house 1 1 either went with him, or followed liim there. At that time, 1 believe, there was no appearance of a crowd, or any thing of that kind near Colonel Brereton’s ? Not at all. That part of the town was perfectly quiet 1 Perfectly quiet, as to any appearance of riot, or any disturbance. Mr. Justice Parke. — Was it Colonel Brereton’s lodgings, or the Recruiting-office 1 Colonel Brereton’s office. Mr. Follett. — Close to the Palace, is it not ? The back part of it looks into the Palace-yard — it was a station of Colonel Brereton’s for matters of business. You say that part of the town was perfectly quiet — was there any reason for any apprehension of any sort while you were there 1 Not the slightest. Did you see at that time either of the Serjeants who were examined here 1 I saw the Serjeants about the premises, in two rooms, upon the ground floor ; in fact, 1 was, at that time, completely wet through, and I went into a room, I do not know whether it may be in the Serjeants’-room, but some room where I saw a fire, which 1 was glad to avail myself of for a few minutes — and there 1 saw Serjeants, certainly. Mr. Justice Taunton. — At what time was this ? It was somewhere about six o’clock. In the afternoon 1 In the afternoon. After it had become dark l It was dark. Mr. Follett. — And raining ? Raining very hard. You were very wet — were the whole party wet, — the Mayor and the other gentlemen ? I have no doubt they were ; I was completely wet through, and quite exhausted — 1 had not tasted food up to that hour. From what time ? From Saturday morning, except at that moment ; Colonel Brereton very kindly presented a loaf and some cheese to the gen- tlemen who were assembled, of which I partook. That was the first you had eaten from Saturday morning ? It was. If I understand you right, the Mayor was some time at Colonel Brereton’s office, at this time ? I should think probably an hour. Was any thing at all said while you were there, about any means of escape, or anything of that kind '{ Not a word. W as there any necessity for it ? Not the slightest. W as there any sign of apprehension shewn by the Mayor, or by any of the gentlemen who were there ? Thera was nothing to cause it. Mr. Justice Taunton. — There w; s no alarm! There was no alarm — the only subject of alarm I recollect during that interview was, that somebody came in and said that the shipping was on fire. Alderman Daniel, who was one of the party, said, “ I will go out and see if it be ti ue.’ 1 dare say there was some expression of alarm with everybody upon the apprehension of such a calamity. Mr. Folleit. — 1 mean any personal alarm ? None whatever — no personal fear whatever — not the slightest. \ ou said that after this interview with Colonel Brereton, the Mayor either went with you, or you followed him to the Council-house ? 1 did. Before you left Colonel Brereton, did he make any promise of bringing out the troops ? Not to me ; — any conversation that took place upon that subject must have been whilst 1 was going to the Post-office. 278 You saw the Mayor afterwards, at the Council-house 1 I did. While you were there, was any report brought in that the mob were about to attack the Bishop’s Palace ? There was. What number of persons do you suppose there were at the Council- house, at that time ? I cannot speak to that, for I was down stairs, and the constables were scattered up-stairs, in the upper rooms ; I think, that probably there might have been from 80 to 100 persons there, but I could not speak with accuracy upon that subject. Was any thiag said, by any of the parties there, about proceeding to the Bishop’s-palace, or the Mansion-house ? The first I heard of any proceed- ing to the Bishop’s Palice was the report that the Mayor was coming down stairs, to head a party of constables to the Bishop’s Palace. Mr. Justice Parke. — At what time was that ? I should suppose between eight and nine o’clock. Mr. Follett. — D id you see the Mayor ? I saw him, because I joined him. You saw him come down stairs? I do not know that I saw him come down stairs, but I joined him in the hall. Do you know whether Alderman Camplin had gone out before with any party of men that were there? No, I never knew that Alderman Camplin had preceded the Mayor; he might have gone out without my knowing it. I believe Mr. Seijeant Ludlow was also with the Mayor? Yes, Mr. Serjeant Ludlow called on me to go with them. Mr. Alderman Savage also was with you? He was in the Council- house at that time. Did he go with you ? I think he went out of the house with us. Did you proceed with the Mayor, and Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, and Mr. Alderman Savage, towards the Palace ? I did. How many persons went with you from the Council-house ? I should think probably twenty-five ; I speak of the greatest number when I say twenty-five. In your way to the Palace did you meet any persons in the streets ? We met several persons in the streets, particularly in Broad-street ; I remember passing three gentlemen, one of whom I knew ; and I told him where the Mayor was going, and the object of it ; I begged him to join the party, and he said, “You know I cannot; I have very valuable property to protect here ;” he was standing opposite his own warehouse. Did any persons join you? I do not remember any ; I remember the Town-clerk going to the opposite side of the way, in the same street, and making the same application to a party. Did you apply to every person that you met ? I do not think we did; but if we met a respectable man he was applied to. Did any body join you ? I do not remember that any body did. You say about twenty-fire left with you at the Council-house ; did the whole party go with you to the Palace? No; they fell off very much before we got to the Palace. Where did you go to, — did you get up to the Palace? We did not ; we got very near to the archway leading into the lower green. How near is that to the Palace ? I suppose within fifty yards, — I do not know. You say you do not know of any body joining you on your way up ; do you remember Mr. Bulwer, a clergyman, joining you ? I do notremember his joining us. When you got up to the archway, did you receive any information about the Palace ? I was, as well as I recollect, in the rear of the Mayor, and some- body turned round, and said, “You cannot go to the Palace, — the soldiers are surrounding it.” Do you know who it was that said that ? I do not. What else was said about the Palace ? I do not remember at this moment any thing being said. 279 Was there any thing said about the rioters 1 We then went into Col. Brereton’s office, and there something was said. Was that close to the archway ? Within a few yards. And the window of which looked into the Palace-yard ? Yes. When you got into Colonel Brereton’s office, what was it you heard said 1 One of the Seijeants that came in, said, “They are all caught — they are all caught.” I remember his expression perfectly well : — “ They are caught like a rat in a trap.” He said, “ If you come in here you can see it;” he took me into a back room, the window of which looked into the Palace-yard or Palace-court, the court in front of the Palace, and from the window we distinctly saw the troops round the door of the Palace. From the window of which you could distinctly see the troops surround- ing the door of the Palace ? Yes. Mr. Justice Littledale. — Was the window open? The window wag not open ; it was a common glass casement. Mr. Follett. — Was the Mayor with you in that room 1 I do not know ; I do not know who went into the room ; I went into the room. And some others of your party? es, there were several. How long did you remain in the room ? A few minutes ; we merely looked through the window and retired again. While you remained in Colonel Brereton’s office, did you hear anything about the mob at the Palace ? After we had been there a very short time, 1 think, a report came that the soldiers had left the Palace. It was brought to you in the office, was it? It was mentioned. Did you hear anything of the mob ? That the soldiers had left the Palace, and that the constables were dispersed. Was there any alarm then given ? Shortly after, somebody came into the room and said, “ there is a large body of the mob coming towards the Palace.” To get to Colonel Brereton’s office you pass through a court, a sort of garden. I went from the office to the front gate leading into the Green from the office. When you got to the door, what did you see? Within a minute after I got to the door, a man passed me running by, waving a cudgel ; he passed it over my head and said, “ Damn the Bishops,” — “ down with the Bishops.” I saw others following him, stragglers ; but I heard at a distance a violent cheering, and there was no question in my mind that the mob was coming up. Did the cheering appear to come from a large body of people ? Very. Did you see any thing of the troops retiring 1 I saw them going through the Green. Going off from the Palace? Yes. When this other mob were coming ? It was before that. Soon after that was it you heard the shouts of this large body of people ? Very soon after. This mob coming up, Colonel Brereton’s office was a very dangerous place to be in, was it not? No doubt; I felt exceedingly alarmed, as an individual. Did you attempt to get the persons in Colonel Brereton’s office to go away ? I do not know whether I made the communication to the persons within, or whether they liad received the information from others before ; but as soon as the news was received by the persons in the house that the mob was approaching, every body determined to escape as well as they could. I believe you went away with Mr. Serjeant Ludlow ? I did. How the Mayor went you do not know ? I do not know at all. But all the persons in the house did attempt to make their escape, and made their escape as well as they could? I believe so, but there was great confusion at the moment; 1 had an impression upon my miad, that if the mob found out that the Magistrates were there, we should all be sacrificed. 280 . Did you consider, at that time, that your lives would be in danger, if you remained in that place ? I have no doubt of it. And there were no military, nor any constables to protect them ? None ; I do not know but there might be a few constables that had come from the Palace, but there was nothing like a protecting force. I believe, shortly after that the mob broke into the Palace, and set it on fire 1 I understood so ; I saw it on fire afterwards. While you were with Serjeant Ludlow, did you see any constables, who said that the military had refused to act? Serjeant Ludlow and myself made our way across the centre of College-green, and we arrived at the bottom of Park-street, and there we met two or three young men, one of whom appeared to know me, though I did not know him ; and they stopped us, and were very indignant at the conduct which they had experienced as constables, at the Palace. They expressed themselves in strong language upon the subject, and said that they had been in action at the Palace as constables, and had been deserted by the military; and it was the second time, I think they said, our lives had been in danger, and we will now give it up, or we will have nothing more to do with it, or some expression to the same effect. 1 believe you went with Mr. Serjeant Ludlow to Clifton ? I did. To make arrangements for the safety of his family? The Serjeant men- tioned to me, on his escape from the Palace, “ I think, Burges, my family is in danger; for all the men who were in Gaol are liberated, and I have sentenced them, and it is very likely they will wreak their vengeance upon me ; do not you think it is my duty to make some provision for my family ?” I said, “ Undoubtedly, Sir, I should do it at all hazards;” then said he, “We are not very far from Clifton, — I wish you would go with me to Clifton.” I went to Clifton, and ordered some beds for Mr. Serjeant Ludlow’s family, at the Hotel, at Clifton. Mr. Justice Parke. — At what time was this ? I should think this must be between 9 and 10 o’clock, or somewhere thereabouts, but 1 cannot tell exactly, for I knew nothing of time that day ; I called at my own house, on our way from Clifton. Mr. Follett. — T believe you heard afterwards that the Mayor was at Mr. Fripp’s ? I did. That was after your return from Clifton, was it not? It was. Did you go to him, at Mr. Fripp’s? I went to him, with Serjeant Ludlow. And saw him at Mr. Fripp’s, I believe ? I did. Had you been at Colonel Brereton’s before ? We had. And you had heard, I believe, of the arrival of the Dodington troop of Y eomanry ? I had . Was it in consequence of that you went to Colonel Brereton’s ? It was. Mr. Serjeant Ludlow was with you, 1 believe ? He was. Were you able to find Colonel Brereton at the office? We could not find him. Or anywhere else ? We could not find him. Whom did you see at the office ? When we arrived at the outer door towards College-green, one of his Serjeants was standing at the door, and we asked to see Colonel Brereton ; he said, “ he is not here, — you cannot go in.” The Town-Clerk spoke to him in a very angry tone, and said, “ what do you mean? — I want to see Colonel Brereton ; I must go in.” The man made an answer which convinced me at once that he was intoxicated ; he clearly was; and I said to Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, “We had better not continue the conversation with this man ;” half a dozen people were sur- rounding us ; “ at all events get him off the pavement and talk to him.” And you were not able to get in ? We could not get in. Mr. Justice Littledale. — You say he was intoxicated ? He appeared so. 281 Mr. Follett. — Was he drunk? He was so drunk that he spoke indistinctly. Could you ascertain whether Colonel Brereton was there? He said he was not there. After that, I believe, you went to the Mayor at Mr. Fripp’s? I did. YY as Mr. Alderman Fripp there too ? He was. Was the Mayor in bed, or was he up ? He was up. In the drawing-room ? I do not know whether it was the drawing-room or the dining-room, — one of the sitting-rooms. Hid you state to the Mayor the arrival of the Uodington troop ? We did. And that you had attempted to find Colonel Brereton? We stated exactly what had occurred at Colonel Brereton’s office. I believe you had heard that Colonel Brereton had said that he wanted the Magistrates’ authority for the Dodington troop ? I had. An officer had called, had he not, at the Council-house, Mr. M'Leroth ? I do not know; I heard so. Did you state these circumstances to the Mayor ? I stated every thing that had occurred since we separated from him at the Palace. Was it suggested that the Mayor should write an order to Colonel Brereton respecting the troops ? It w r as. Was there a letter to Colonel Brereton written at that time ? A letter was written to Colonel Brereton. Just turn to it ? It is a letter, No. 5, in the appendix. Have the goodness to read it? “ The Mayor of Bristol desires Colonel Brereton to consider himself fully authorized to take whatever steps and give wffiatever orders he, as the Military Commander of the troops in this city, may think fit, to restore and preserve, as far as possible, the public peace. The Riot Act has been read three times to-day. Colonel Brereton will have the goodness to consider this order to apply not only to the troops at present under his command, but to any which may subsequently arrive in the city. — Mr. Daniel Fripp’s, No. 30, Berkeley-Square, Sun- day night, 12 o’clock, 30th October, 1831.” Mr. Follett. — Before that address was put there, had the Mayor said any thing about it? I do not remember any thing particular. Who wrote it? The Mayor. The Mayor himself? Yes. W ho wrote the other part of the letter below ? The second paragraph is — “ The Mayor of Bristol begs to inform Colonel Brereton, that if he should have occasion for the orders of a Magistrate, either the Mayor or some other Magistrate will be found at No. 30, Berkeley-Square, Mr. Daniel Fripp’s, the second house on the right hand on turning into the Square from Park-Street. — Berkeley-Square, 12 o’clock Sunday night.” • Was any thing said about that ? Yes, I recollect it perfectly well ; it was my proposition ; it was dated Mr. Daniel Fripp’s, No. 30, Berkeley- Square. I said, “ if a communication is to be made to the Mayor in the night, parties may have a difficulty in finding out No. 30, Berkeley-Square; you had better, therefore, distinguish the house,” — in the way in which it is mentioned in the note. And upon that suggestion that particular description was written? It was. VY'as that the whole of the letter? No; “ This communication is made to Colonel Brereton in consequence of Lieutenant Macclesfield calling at the Council-house, and requesting to see a Magistrate. Colonel Breretcn was gone out w r hen a call was made at the staff station to inform him as above.” That was what you supposed to be the name of the officer that called ? Yes ; 1 do not know how- the name of Macclesfield got into the letter. W hen this letter was written, to whom was it given to take to Colonel Brereton? It was given to Mr. Brice. 282 Your partner ? My partner, or to hia son. Mr. Brice and his son were in the room with you? Mr. Brice and hia eon came in after our arrival. They came in, I suppose, for the purpose of seeing the Mayor? They came to see the Mayor, in order to procure the Mayor’s signature to billets. Were any billets filled up or signed, while you were there ? There were. What were those billets for 1 They were, I believe, left in blank, because it was not known to what they would apply ; they were orders for so many horses, and so many men, in blank. The billets were made out, at that time, in consequence of your having heard of the arrival of the Yeomanry ? Yes, they were. Had you heard that they wanted billets ? Mr. Brice stated, that he came in consequence of a communication made to him by Mr. Alderman George Hilhouse that the Dodington troop had arrived, and that they wanted billets. Were those billets therefore given to Mr. Brice? They were ; they were all enclosed in one cover, the letter and the billets, and I think the Mayor said, “ How shall we send these ?” and Mr. Brice immediately said, *‘I will take them.” Did Mr. Brice then leave with them? He did. And his son ? And his son. Did you remain at Mr. Daniel Fripp’s with the Mayor after that? I did not ; I wa'S completely exhausted at that time. Where did you go ? I went home ; I got home about one o’clock ; I got to bed about half-past one, and I was up at five; I was wet through, and had been during the whole evening and night ; I had no refreshment, and I found I was gone ; I could not proceed any further with my duty. Where did you go in the morning ? I went immediately to the Council- house ; I was there, I think, between six and seven. I do not exactly remember the time I got to the Council-house, but it was very early in the morning. Did you see the Mayor there? I did. Could you judge, from his appearance, whether he had been in bed or not? I have no doubt he had been up all night; he looked worse than when 1 left him on the preceding night. Was he still in the same dress, — silk stockings and buckles ? Just the same ; I felt for him very deeply at the time. I believe the other Magistrates also assembled at the Council-house that morning, did they not ? I think both the Aldermen Hilhouse were there. Did you see Mr. Alderman Camplin there too ? I saw him that morning there; I do not know who might be there particularly, when I arrived ; I saw all the gentlemen you have named, but I think I saw the two Aider- men Hilhouse as soon as I arrived ; they were all there during the day, at least almost all. Were you there when Major Beckwith came to the Council house? I did not see Major Beckwith upon his first arrival. I believe Major Beckwith came first to the Council-house, did not he — he came first in his plain clothes, and afterwards went to put on his uniform ? I do not know that. Was he in uniform when you saw him? I do not recollect; I had never seen Major Beckwith before ; and I had not any recollection as to his dress, nor have I any distinct recollection of what occurred with Major Beckwith; I had better mention to the Court, that I considered I was present at the interview between the Magistrates and Major Beckwith ; but the two Magistrates who were present with Major Beckwith have no recollection of my being there. Speak from your own recollection, — do you remember being present at any interview between the Magistrates and Major Beckwith d 1 think I was present. 283 You remained at the Council-house some time, I believe, that morning ? I remained there continually ; I did not go to bed the next night, and I remained there all day and all night. You assisted the Mayor ? I assisted in every thing, as far as my ability would allow me. As you were with the Mayor all the time you have mentioned, did the Mayor, at any time, during the whole of those days, show any thing like personal fear 1 Never ; on the contrary, he had always great self-possession, and was always ready to attend, and listen to every proposition made to him, and to give his best assistance. I was with him the whole time, with the exception of the few hours I have mentioned ; it was impossible for any man to conduct himself with more propriety and firmness than the Mayor did, — utterly impossible. Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. You were perfectly collected all the time, I presume, so as to be able to make those observations ? I think I was ; I have not a doubt that I was. Perhaps, with some exception, at the Recruiting Office? I was per- fectly collected then. I thought you were all under great alarm 1 Oh, yes, I was under great alarm, but still I was collected in my mind — my object was, to secure myself. You were twice, I think, in the course of the evening, at the Colonel's office ? I was. I ask you, whether about six o’clock, Colonel Brereton did not come to the office and find the Mayor and Magistrates there ? I do not know — I might have gone to the Post-office at that time ; I said, in my examination in chief, that I was not certain that I was there when Colonel Brereton arrived, because I was absent for a short time. Then there may have been conversation between the Mayor and Colonel Brereton which you did not hear ? Undoubtedly. I beg to ask, however, whether you heard this, — that the Mayor assured Colonel Brereton that he did not require his presence, or, indeed, wish it to be known that he or the Magistrates were there ? Never. Never, in your hearing? Never — on the contrary, the Magistrates had sent for him. Nor any Magistrate in his presence at the time ? I never heard the words at all. Did you hear him say that, under existing circumstances, he considered that office as a place of safety ? No, I did not. Do you remember Colonel Brereton being requested by the Mayor to place a seijeant outside the front gate ? I do not, but 1 remember seeing a serjeant at the front gate. Did you hear it said that the seijeant was placed there in order to give them timely notice of any approach of the mob ? Witness — I think you are^now speaking of the first time I went there ? Mr. Attorney-General. — Yes, lam. Witness — I did not. Nothing of that sort passed in your hearing 1 Nothing. Had not you been at home at Clifton in the course of the day ? In the course of what day ? Sunday ? I was at home at Clifton on Sunday evening. At what time ? After the separation from the Palace. Not before that ? Not before that. You went home on Saturday night ? I went home on Sunday morning, between five and six o’clock. I take for granted you took some refreshment and some repose ? I was very tired, and I think I went immediately to bed — and I had laid down about an hour, when I was called ; the servant awoke me, and said, 284 “ Sir, the Mayor wants you directly 1 think, as far as my memory serves me, that 1 dressed instantly, and went away. 1 have no recollection of taking any refreshment at that time — I do not swear positively that 1 did not, but I have no recollection of it, and 1 think I did not, from the ex- hausted state m which I afterwards found myself. When you were at Colonel Brereton’s office the first time, did you hear any thing said about getting an old coat and trowsers ? Never ; — that will be explained by and by. Never mind that, — you did not hear a word about it? Not a word. And you saw nothing of the sort come there, did you? No, I did not. You did not hear Mr. Osborne’s name mentioned, did you? I heard Mr. Osborne's name mentioned. Was it said that a seijeant w r as to go to Mr. Osborne ? Not at all. Do you know w r hether one of the serjeants went ? I do not ; I know that a messenger was sent to Mr. Osborne whilst I was there, — 1 could tell you what for. I want only to know, in addition to what you have stated, how long you have been acquainted with Mr. Pinney ? I had no intimacy with Mr. Pinney till he entered the office of Mayor. How long have you been acquainted with him? I have know r n his per- son for many years : I believe I have knowrn him enough to speak to him, — if I met him, to bow to him. You never happened to see him on horseback? I do not recollect to have seen him : 1 have turned it over in my mind j I am doubtful whether 1 did not once see him on horseback. Are you doubtful whether you saw him riding a high horse or not? I do not know ; my attention has been draw r n to that since yesterday, and I have no recollection upon the subject. Since you heard it in my learned friend’s speech? Since something- lias occurred in this case about the Mayor’s riding ; I think it appears so in Major Beckwith’s evidence. Did notit excite some surprise in you? Not the least. What was doing at the Bishop’s Palace at the time you looked out of the window upon it? I do not know what was doing in the interior of the Palace ; I merely saw the soldiers drawn round the Court-yard, appearing to me to encircle the door. Did you leave the office before the mob came into the Bishop’s yard? Certainly we left the office upon the report of the mob coming up : there was a previous part of the mob which I understood to be in the palace at that time. Had the Mayor and the Magistrates then entire possession of the office ? — at the time you left it, was there nobody else there ? I believe the Ser- jeants were there and the people belonging to the establishment : I am certain that one of them was, because he shewed us into a room. Were there any threats uttered against the office ? None. Or against the Magistrates at that time? None. Or against the Mayor at any time ? I was not with the Magistrates all the time, and therefore I could hot hear what the threats were against them by other persons, but reports were brought in frequently to the Magistrates that their lives were in danger, and that they would be mur- dered : that perpetually occurred. Re-examined by Sir James Scarlett. How many persons do you recollect to have been at Colonel Brereton's Recruiting-office at the time you mention — the last time? 1 am sure I can- not recollect what number of persons ; I should think probably there might be eight or ten. 285 I asked you the question with this view — had you any such number as could have made head against any mob that was coming ? Certainly not; we were totally unarmed. Do you think, if the Mayor had marshalled you all, and you had amounted to ten, you could have faced that mob 1 Certainly not. If he had taken ten of you out of the rest, would you have faced that mob ? Certainly not ; I would not have been one of the ten. Mr. Serjeant LUDLOW sworn. — Examined by Sir James Scarlett. I believe you are Town-Clerk of the Corporation of Bristol 1 lam. IIow long have you been so 1 About from fifteen to twenty years, — I really cannot exactly say. I believe by the Constitution of Bristol the Town-Clerk must be a bar- rister ? lie must be. Has it been usual for the Town-Clerk to act as Assessor to the Mayor at the Court of Quarter Sessions ? Always, in my recollection. In that capacity in effect the prisoners are tried by you 1 Always. The prisoners not tried for capital offences 1 Always. Do you pass the sentence 1 I do. On behalf of the Mayor ? On behalf of the Court. We understand you were at the Mansion-house in Bristol with the Ma- gistrates, on the 29th of October, when Sir Charles Wetherell came in ? Yes, I was, — I had been at the Guildhall before. Sir James Scarlett. — I do not propose to ask Mr. Serjeant Ludlow to go over the same ground that the other witnesses have gone over, on both sides, but to take him to particular facts ; I do not wish to exclude the rest. Was there anv part of the day -when the rioters appeared to become more exasperated and offensive ? I think there was. Do you recollect one of the constables having taken some of them prison- ers, and brought them into the Mansion-house? I do. Did any question arise then, whether they could be conducted in safety through the mob to the Gaol? Yes, there was a question agitated. In your opinion, from the appearances you saw in the Square, could they have been conducted by the civil power to the Gaol ? I thought not without considerable struggle and attempt at rescue. I had observed, when the constables attempted to take any person into custody, in the act of throwing a stone, there was always an attempt made to rescue him. Had you observed several attempts at a rescue, when the constables were endeavouring to make prisoners ? Yes. From your observation of the disposition and the appearance of the crowd in Queen-square, did you conceive that they -were disposed to favor the mob, or resist them ? I did not see any attempt at resisting the mob, except by the constables who went from the Mansion-house to discharge a particular duty. Did any debate arise about sending for the military, to aid in carrying those prisoners to the Gaol? I thought it would be a very good oppor- tunity to show the troops, without employing them to act against the people ; — that if they were employed to carry the prisoners to Gaol, it would be a very good opportunity of exhibiting them. There was a difference of opinion upon that subject? Yes, Sir Charles Wetherell thought it desirable not to bring the troops out until the last moment. His opinion prevailed? His opinion of course prevailed. You recollect the fact of the Mayor going out to address the mob, and read the Riot Act ? Those circumstances took place ; but l cannot speak so particularly to the detail as the other persons have done. Were you in the Mansion-house the whole time ? I was. 286 You heard read a letter yesterday, addressed to Lord Melbourne, signed by the Mayor, giving a general account of what passed at the Mansion- house ? Yes. According to the best of your recollection, is that a faithful account of what passed 1 1 believe I either wrote or dictated that letter myself ; of course I did not knowingly state any thing untrue. Then it is the truth ? Every word of it. Excepting the date of 11 instead of 1 ? Yes, that was an accidental mistake of the clerk, in copying the letter. After Colonel Brereton had arrived with the troops, did any conversation take place between him and the Magistrates, respecting the mode of using those troops to clear the streets 1 Yes, certainly. Had any of the officers or troops been brought in wounded 1 Not at the time that Colonel Brereton came in. But at the time of this discussion ? Yes, they had been. State shortly what was the discussion with Colonel Brereton ? Colonel Brereton had come to the Magistrates’ room, at the Mansion-house, before the troops were ordered out, and he then said, he should wish to have their authority to have them brought out when necessary ; and that it was neces- sary they should then go to their quarters; and some arrangement was made about having some note from the Mayor. Some watchword? Yes, I was not a party to that; he then retired, and I did not see him again until after the troops were sent for, when the Mansion-house was in a state of siege. You represent it in a state of siege? Yes, or rather in a state of assault ; the door was forced open, and large pieces of wood were sweeping along the hall, and there was a hat-stand which I saw struck down by something thrown in. Did you see Colonel Brereton when he first arrived w r ith the troops 1 When I first saw him he was in the drawing-room ; I had seen the troops arrive, and draw up at the door, before that. Then you saw him in the drawing-room ? Yes. Where did you see the troops draw up ? I was in the room over the drawing-room ; we had been in the draw T ing-room, and the stones came in very fast at the window; I had been talking to Sir Charles Wethereil about the propriety of his going; he resisted it a considerable time, but I strongly urged upon him the necessity of his going, and I then retired to the room over the drawing-room, where I saw what took place without being exposed to the stones, and then I saw the troops arrive. Did you go down immediately? Very shortly afterwards. Then you found Colonel Brereton in the room ? Yes. With the Magistrates? Yes, the Mayor, and one or two others. Be so good as to state what passed with respect to the troops clearing the streets, or firing, or the orders he required ? I probably shall go into more length than I ought to do, if I am to make any statement. I recollect Colonel Brereton being told that the directions to him were that he was to clear the streets, and get the city quiet as soon as he could ; that w r as the substance of the directions given. I believe I gave him the same directions in the presence of the Magistrates. Do you remember using any expression to Colonel Brereton of this nature, — whether he had received any orders different from the Magistrates’ orders? Yes; Colonel Brereton had gone into the Square, and returned ; and he had stated that the mob were in very good humour, and that he should be able to get them quiet and dispersed, by merely riding the troops about. What w r as the wish expressed by the Magistrates ? The Magistrates wished to have as much force used as was necessary to effect the object; but they had certainly no desire to have any unnecessary force used. 287 Mr. Attorney-General. — What did they say? I cannot answer what they said at any particular moment, but if you will direct my attention to it I will answer it. Sir James Scarlett. — You said that Colonel Brereton said the mob was in good humour, and that he could walk his horses about, and keep them quiet? Yes; I should think he said that at least twenty times in the course of the evening, but what particular answer he gave at any particular time I cannot tell. Did any discussion arise about his having orders to fire? Yes ; I remember, on one occasion, two soldiers of the 14th dragoons were brought in bleeding, one of them very severely, — he had a severe cut on the neck, and was bleeding very severely ; a constable had been brought in a short time before, senseless, by a blow he had received upon his head, and I saw a number of stones thrown, and other acts of violence, for the whole conduct of the mob was under our eyes, as if we had been in the street ; and I remember saying to Colonel Brereton, “ Do you think that these are symptoms of good humour on the part of the mob ? I think it will be necessary to use some greater degree of force than has hitherto been used.” I do not recollect what the terms of his answer were, but I recollect saying in answer to him, “ I must beg the favour of knowing whether you have any orders from the Secretary of State, or the Horse Guards, that prevent you from obeying the orders of the Magistrates ? — because, if so, it will materially affect their arrangements.” He said, “ My directions are to obey the orders of the Magistrates.” You say he went out, and came in, several times ? Yes. Upon each occasion did he represent that, in his opinion, the mob might be subdued without violence ? He did. Now, I would bring you to a particular point, — do you recollect an officer of the light dragoons coming to state that the mob had taken refuge in some alleys, and some boats about the Quay ? Yes, the market-boats. And that his troops were molested by them — and that it being dark, he could not find them, and requesting orders to fire? Yes; I recollect an officer of the 14th dragoons coming in and saying that he was exposed to this attack, which he could not resist — that the gas had been cut off, and the place was in darkness, and he wanted authority to fire a few ball cartridges to displace the mob. Do you remember, about that time, any constable offering, with twenty- five men, and the aid of the other military, to dislodge those men from the boats without firing? I think it was Mr. Harford, a gentleman who had acted as a special constable ; — he said, “if you will let me havetwenty-five men, and the military, I will undertake to go and dislodge them out of the boat.” I think that was said in answer to an observation made by Mr. Alderman Daniel, to this effect, that in those market-boats, it being market evening, probably there were a great many people from W ales who had come to market, and that a great many lives might be sacrificed, and that he should not wish that to be done, unless absolutely necessary — and I think Mr. Harford then proposed what I have stated. Then the officer of the light dragoons wishing to fire, Mr. Alderman Daniel said there were many market-boats from Wales, and many innocent persons in them, and he should be sorry if they were fired upon unless it was matter of absolute necessity — upon that being stated, Mr. Harford made that answer ? Yes. What did Colonel Brereton say? He had come in, in the intermediate time. I do not think he was in the room when the officer came in. He said, “ If you will take my advice you will do no such thing; it is getting late, and the people are getting tired, and it is my belief they will soon go to their homes if you will let them alone ;” and he added, either imme- diately, or in answer to some intermediate observation, “ I will be answer- able for the peace of the city during the night, if you will leave it to me.” I am not certain as to the exact words, but it was to that effect. 288 About what time in the evening might this have been 1 I should think after eleven o’clock on Saturday night : T must claim a little indulgence as to the time, for I did not note the time. Had there been repeated orders given to Colonel Brereton to clear the streets! There had been. And to use any force that might be necessary to clear the streets'? I do not know that that precise term was used, but something to that effect. I had better say at once, I do not recollect the precise words, and if I do not recollect them, I must give the substance ; if I recollect them, I will give them you at once. Did Colonel Brereton turn out to be right? Yes, he certainly did ; no further complaint took place, the officer went away, and some time after- wards one of the Magistrates went out, and came back and said it was all very quiet, and after staying at the Mansion-house till near one o’clock, I went home. As far as you can judge, looking out of the Mansion-house windows, how many persons may have been assembled — I mean the mass of the multitude, not the persons throwing stones ? I should say, during some part of the evening many hundreds, and indeed some part of the evening many thousands, if you take in all those in the Square : the effect of the dragoons going about the Square was, that the people got outside of the road, and went inside the rails, or inside the courts of the houses : and I know one of the complaints made to Colonel Brereton was, that the mo- ment the horses had passed by, the people resumed the old position, and resumed their occupation of throwing stones ; but that was got rid of, and the town was in a state of quiet by half-past twelve o’clock. I went through several of the streets with Alderman Savage, in our way out of town : we live on the same side of the country, and we passed through without any interruption. You live at Clifton ? About two miles from Bristol, on the same side of the country where Alderman Savage lives. Had you a horse in the town ? Yes, I had, but I went home in Aider- man Savage’s carriage, and left my horse there. What time did you return on Sunday morning ? About ten o’clock, I think, intending to go to church with the Mayor, as I had promised : he said he would go at all events, and I then said I would do so too. At that time it had been agreed that the Gaol delivery should be post- poned ? Yes, that was necessary, as Sir Charles Wetherell had gone out of the town. Did you go to church with the Mayor? No, I did not. Did you find him ? I found him at the Guildhall, when I went in. I had seen a great deal before I got there : I had been to College-green, and seen the troops retreating to their quarters. You had to pass through College-green, to get to the Guildhall ? I had. And then you saw the 14th light dragoons retreating to their quarters ? Yes. What was occurring at that time ? As I was walking on the Park-street side of St. Augustine’s church I saw a considerable mob of people running in the direction from Queen-square, on the opposite side of the river to which I was. I did not know what the running was about, but as I got near St. Augustine’s Church the 14th dragoons trotted up to me, and I saw they were followed by a number of people throwing stones, and I crossed over to the church side of the green. I then saw the dragoons trot by me, and 1 saw shots fired by them, and one of the shots struck the church close by me. You did seethe 14th dragoons trotting apparently to their quarters, and the mob following them, pelting them with stones? Yes, which they continued to do notwithstanding their firing, and they followed them to their stables. *289 Where were their stables ? At Fisher and Leigh’s Repositories, just on the Park-street side of the Green, which was in the direction I was coming from. Did they go past you ? Yes. And the mob followed them? Yes, they did. Did you, in the way to the Mansion-house, observe any indication of the feelings of the people respecting Sir Charles Wetherell — do you remem- ber seeing any knot of persons that you had any conversation with ? That was when I was getting off my horse — the time that happened was before I got into the town. 1 saw four or five persons talking together ; I do not know how I got into conversation with them, but they said there was murder committed in the town, and that it was by the firing of the soldiers. They said it was a great shame for Sir Charles Wetherell to be brought into the town. I said, “ I do not know why you should quarrel with Sir Charles W etherell ; he has as much a right to have his opinions as you to have yours.” Was any thing said about yourself? They said, “ you had better take care of yourself ; you are as bad as he is.” I said, “ how do you know who I am ?” They said, “ we saw you in the Guildhall backing him up,” or something of that kind. You had been in the Guildhall with him ? Yes, and I said I was there in the discharge of my duty, or that You went to the Guildhall and found the Mayor there ? I did. Did you make any long stay at tbe Guildhall ? Yes. Did you go to church that day? I went into the Cathedral before 1 went to the Guildhall, and I had some conversation with some of the gen- tlemen in the city, and requested them to get the people together, and call meetings, and get the people out ; and I saw the Bishop there, in his way to the service in the morning. What did you find the Mayor and Aldermen engaged in, when you got to the Guildhall ? I found the Mayor sitting at the head of the table, and the Magistrates sitting round him, writing letters and doing one thing and another, and soon after Colonel Brereton came in. Just relate shortly what passed? Colonel Brereton came in and said, “ I want permission to send the 14th dragoons out of the town.” I started up rather intemperately, or rather with surprise, and probably made some exclamation. He said, “ They have killed a man in the night ; the people are so exasperated they must not stay in the town.” He said, “ I want the Magistrates’ authority to send them away.” I said, “ you cannot have that authority, Sir ; it is impossible.” Did any discussion arise between him and the Magistrates upon that subject? Yes, certainly, and about the horses being very much tired and the men too ; and Capt. Warrington, I believe, was brought in to certify to the disabled state of the men and the horses. Of the 14th dragoons? Yes; I understood the statement of Captain W arrington to apply to all the troops, but that was the reason assigned as to the 14th. I said to Colonel Brereton if he did that he must do it on his own single responsibility, — that the Magistrates would not divide it or share it with him, — in the strongest language I could use. What you said was in concurrence with the Magistrates, though you spoke for them? Yes, no doubt, and Colonel Brereton was aware of it, — I had been introduced to him the day before, and I had had frequent com- munications with him ; the Magistrates expressed themselves to the same effect upon the spot at the time, and Colonel Brereton could have no doubt that if the removal of those troops did take place it must be upon his own single responsibility. Did he say he must remove them f He did ; he used arguments ; he said, “ If you will believe me, the situation of the troops is such they cannot X 290 act, they must have some rest, and the most judicious thing is to think of some quarters at no great distance from the town, where they can go and refresh themselves and I recollect, in the course of the discussion several places were mentioned, and during that discussion and mentioning of places, the Magistrates said, “ we will not embarrass you if we cannot assist you — we will point out any place we think proper — but you must recollect we do not take any responsibility upon ourselves.” Did the Magistrates point out places 1 Yes, but Keynsham was not mentioned ; Brislington and Redland were mentioned certainly, but not Keynsham. Did you know at that time the Magistrates had been issuing orders to be circulated among the parishes, during Divine Service, at the Churches and so on? Yes, as soon as I came in they told me what they had been doing — they told me they had been trying to get the people together in every way that they could, and 1 know that some of them very shortly after that were assembled in the Guildhall, and I was called upon to go out and speak to them. How many of them do you think were assembled ? I am a very bad one to speak to numbers, but with reference to my own ideas without referring to what any body else has said, they must have been rather under than over a hundred, and when they asked me what they should do, I said “ I think the best thing you can do is to go home and increase your numbers.” Atthe meeting, at three o’clock, was there any such number of persons assembled as in your judgment could have been of any use to the Mayor in keeping the peace 1 In my judgment, certainly not. Among those assembled, did you find any disposition to act without the military ? Certainly not ; I found a complaint at the first meeting that the military had not been called out and tired upon the mob the night before ; and the gentlemen were rather angry that the Magistrates had not acted with what they called more vigour the night before. Was it made known by you, or any of the gentlemen, or the Magistrates, that the 14th light dragoons had been witdrawn ? Certainly not, at that time. Did you think it safe to promulgate it at that time ? I did not, for one ; I should have been very sorry for the population of Bristol to have been informed that the Magistrates were left without the full defence of the troops — that was my impression at the time ; I might have been wrong. Did any Magistrate in your hearing communicate it ? Not in my hearing, at that time — not until an application was made about the Bridewell, Mr. Justice J. Parke. — Stop a moment. Sir James Scarlett. — Will you have the goodness to confine yourself to one particular time, — let me take the place that you sometimes do here ? (The Witness.) — I know I am a very bad witness — I always said I should be — but this is my first appearance. Sir James Scarlett. — This is your first appearance in that character — you say you addressed the other persons, and said, “ Well, gentlemen, the best thing you can do is to go back to your different parishes, and bring as many of your neighbours as you can, at three o’clock ?” Yes, I did. Did you remain at the Guildhall with the Magistrates 1 I might have gone out ten minutes, or a quarter of an hour — but I was there sub- stantially all the day ; I was not out more than five or ten minutes at a time at the most. We have heard of the great door of the Guildhall being closed ; was it usual to have those doors open except when the Magistrates were there upon the usual business ? I cannot speak to that; I have only been in the habit of being there when upon duty, but I know there is a side door where people usually enter when the great doors are not open — and even when they are, people often go to the stairs of the Guildhall Chamber. 291 Is it an entrance that is known ? I always go that way at the Sessions, and I always find a great number of people going that way too. Between the time that you had stated to the gentlemen your wish that they should assemble at three o’clock, did any intelligence come about the Bridewell 1 Certainly — I think while I was talking to them in the outer hall, some intelligence was brought that the mob were proceeding to the Bridewell ; I heard some stones or blows against the door of the Guildhall, as the mob were said to be going by. About what time was that? I cannot fix the time, — I should tliink about one o’clock. Was that the time put by mistake as eleven ? Yes, that was the time. Do you recollect the circumstance of the Mayor going with Mr. Burges to retire for half an hour ? I did not ; I know he was absent for a short time ; I did not know that he was gone to the White Lion ; I do not mean to say that he was concealed, by my not knowing where he was, but I did not know that he was gone to the White Lion. After the communication was brought respecting the Bridewell, was Colonel Brereton there in the Court? He was there upon the second meeting at the Guildhall at half-past three; I do not recollect Col. Brereton being there at the time the first meeting was held. After the intelligence came that the mob were going to the Bridewell, do you remember any proposition made to Colonel Brereton to send troops there? Yes, I do ; that was when the citizens were assembled the second time. That was at three o’clock ? Yes. Had the mob effected their object ? I do not know that — I know when the application came to us about Bridewell, we had not a particle of force we could get there with — that I know perfectly well. I want to come to that subject — what proposition was made about troops to Colonel Brereton, as to Bridewell? The proposition to ..Colonel Brereton, about the Bridewell, according to the best of my recollection, was, upon some observation being made by some of the persons, whether they were to have the troops or not, — some attempt was made to get the people to go to the Bridewell — something was said to me, or somebody, about going to the Bridewell ; the Bridewell was under attack at this time, and at this time, when we were endeavouring to keep the people in good humour, Mr. Cooke said, “ Are we to have the assistance of the military ?” I shall come to that in due time ; was any thing said to Colonel Brereton about furnishing him with other horses ? My difficulty is from not knowing the precise time. Never mind the time, we will stick to the subject ; was any suggestion made to him about horses ? Ido not recollect the time when that was 3aid to him, about sending for horses. Do you recollect any proposition made to him, as to obtaining fresh horses? Yes, several times in the course of the day, but I cannot recollect the time. W e will forget the time ; there was a proposition made to get him fresh horses, several times ? Yes. What did he say? One time he said, it was of no use to think of putting dragoons upon untrained horses. Was any proposition made to him, if his horses were fatigued, to go with dismounted troops ? Yes, that was the very proposition I made to him; knowing that they would be more useful at the Bridewell, I said, “If the horses are tired, you can surely let us have the troops.” Was that made as to the Bridewell ? Yes, it was. W’hat answer did he make ? I do not recollect the exact words, but the substance was a refusal. x 2 292 How many gentlemen, to the best of your observation, attended at this proposed meeting, at three o’clock, when they were to bring greater numbers ? I know different people have said different numbers ; there may have been more or fewer ; there may have been 70 or 80, I should say 30 or 40 ; they were not, certainly, filling the area of the hall ; what number there may have been in the passage I do not know ; but, as far as a bird's eye view enabled one to speak of the hall, I should say, nothing like a hundred ; but 1 may be very wrong. Was there any discussion with Colonel Brereton about sending back for the 14th light dragoons 1 There was. W hat was it i That occurred upon what I have just introduced ; some of the people were asking for one thing, and some for another, and I gave the best answer I could ; and at last Mr. Cooke said, “ Sir, I want to know, are we to have the assistance of the troops ? because, if we are, I am very willing to do any thing to assist ; if not, I and my sons will go home, and have no more to do with it,” or words to that effect; and, I think he men- tioned something of his experience of Bristol mobs, upon former occasions, as a reason for what he was then saying. Was Colonel Brereton there about that time? I do not think he was, at that time ; he came there about that time, or very soon afterwards. Did the Magistrates receive him in a private room 1 I do not recollect that; I was in the hall, and if he went into the Magistrates, in their private room, it must have been when I was in the hall. Did you hear any discussion between Colonel Brereton and the Magis- trates in the hall, as to bringing back the 14th light dragoons? I did, and took a part in it myself. Was he desired to bring them back? Yes, he was, in the strongest words I could make use of at the time ; I think I said, “ I demand and require you, on the part of the Magistrates of Bristol, that you will imme- diately bring all your troops into immediate service ; bring the 14th, as well as the others;” or something to that effect. Did he refuse ? He said their lives would be sacrificed. I certainly did ask, I do not recollect in what terms, but I did ask him a question, rather implying that that was not the answer I expected to have from an officer in the army ; he said, “ Soldiers’ lives are not to be sacrificed, any more than any other persons’ lives, unnecessarily.” And I believe he added, “I will sacrifice my own, and theirs too, if the occasion calls for it ?” Not at that time; I said, “God forbid that they should, but the Secretary of State, or the Government, have sent you down for the protection of the citizens of Bristol, and I think they have a right to have your services.” Was this said in the presence of the gentlemen in the hall? Yes, in the presence of many gentlemen attending, no doubt ; I think Colonel Brereton added, about that time, the 1 ' ' " m ' 1 ’ ,J sincere in it ; I had my doubts at that time, but I should not do him justice if I did not say so. Many people said he was a traitor or a coward ; and at that time I was inclined to yield a little to that opinion, but I think that opinion did him injustice. I think he intended to act properly, and meant honestly ; I think it due to his memory to say so ; I think he intended to gain time, and thought he should be better able to cope with the mob when reinforced. Did the gentlemen who were there attending, or any of them, shew any disposition to act without the military coming forward to assist them ? I should say, not the slightest; some of them said, “ Is all the mercy to be shewn to the mob?” Some of them said, “We are to be sacrificed if we cannot have the troops ;” some of them said one thing, and some another, and they were going away, and I then said, what Mr. Reynolds stated the other day, “ I hope some of you will stay by the Magistrates !” There were only two or three left, and there were threats communicated to us that the mol) were coming to the Guildhall. not mind risking his own 293 Were there any constables who had been sworn in near the Guildhall ? Yes, I saw some of them, and spoke to them, and some of them said, they had had hard work the day before, but they did not seem inclined to stay, though many of them were respectable men, with whom I had that com- munication. Did those transactions you have given an account of, last some time after three o’clock ? They lasted some time, but I do not know the time. Did any of the gentlemen appear disposed to stay when you exhorted them to stay ? Most of them went away — I think Mr. Reynolds said, there was only two or three left, and I think he was right ; there was almost a clearance of the hall. I then asked a military friend of mine, where would be the best place for the Magistrates to make a stand, in the Guild- hall or the Council-house. I expected every moment that they would be attacked ; and he said, “ Certainly, the Council-house, for you have a double front there.” That gentleman was Captain Cooke ? It was. Was it in consequence of that, the proposition was made to adjourn to the Council-house ? Yes ; and I said, “ if the soldiers leave us, do not let us desert each other ; if there is an attack made on the Council-house let us stand by each other as long as we can j” — and there we took up, what mili- tary men call a position. Do you remember using the expression “ It is high time to take care of ourselves?” I do not recollect using it, but I have no doubt that I did use it, as Mr. Roberts has stated it, who is a respectable man ; but I used it meaning thereby that it would be best to determine upon a local spot at which the Magistrates could best make a stand, and that, as Mr. Roberts tells me, was the impression upon his mind of the meaning, and that it was communicated by him to the gentlemen who took his examination. Mr. Attorney-General. — That is a very irregular statement. (Witness.) — I do not know that is irregular. Mr. Attorney-General. — Then I must appeal to the Court. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — It is very irregular. ( Witness.) — I am very sorry. Sir James Scarlett. — Did the Magistrates go to the Council-house ? Yes, they did, and I went with them. Was the whole party of the Magistrates assembled ? I cannot say that every individual Magistrate was there, but they were in and out. Did you adjourn there upon an idea that an attack would be made upon the Council-house 1 Yes. The muniments of the Corporation are kept there ? Yes. Were directions given to secure them? Yes ; I do not know whether it was at that time, but there were in the course of the afternoon, and I saw the Chamberlain engaged in getting them away. Making all allowances for the impossibility of being perfect as to time, I would still ask, to the best of your belief at what time might it be that you retired to the Council -house ? I should think four o’clock would be nearer than any other hour, — from three to four. Was the Mayor with you? Yes, certainly. Do you recollect after you had been some time at the Council-house any rumour coming of the mob intending to attack the ships in the Quays? Yes; but before that took place, I recollect at the Guildhall intelligence coming, that the mob were coming to attack the Gaol. I do not know much about it, but the little I do know is quite at your service. A rumour came about the Gaol? Yes. Did any of the Magistrates go ? Yes, Mr. Alderman Abraham Hilhouse and Mr. Alderman Savage. Mr. Justice Lm led ale. — That lias already been proved,— is it necessary to prove it again? 294 Sir James Scarlett. — I do not know that it is. When the news came about the G aol, had you any means in your judgment of effectually protect- ing the Gaol? No; Mr. Alderman Hilhouse and Mr. Alderman Savage went to see what they could do. How many went with them ? I cannot say. Did any go ? Yes ; but a very few out of the place where we were. You did not go towards the Gaol? No, I did not. After you were gone to the Council-house, did some rumour come of the mob going to fire the ships in the Quays? Yes, persons came in with different communications all day long. 1 only asked about one ; do you recollect Mr. Alderman Fripp and Mr. Alderman Daniel going out to go to Colonel Brereton’s ? I do not recollect that myself. Do you recollect you and the Mayor going? Yes, I do. For what purpose did you go to Colonel Brereton’s? That I cannot tell you very well, but it was in consequence of that communication that the people were going to fire the ships in the Docks, — we were going down to see what Colonel Brereton could say or do for us. When you went with the Mayor to Colonel Brereton’s, did any body go with you ? I have no recollection of any other person. Whom did you find at the house — did you find Mr. Alderman Fripp there ? Mr. Alderman Fripp was certainly there. And Mr. Alderman Daniel ? I think I heard that Mr. Alderman Daniel was gone to Mr. Osborne’s. Was it raining at that time ? 1 was perfectly wet through. That is an indirect answer to the question, — you might have been wet through from other causes ? I was quite wet through from a very heavy rain. Was the Mayor wet through ? He was very v» r et also. Did you find Mr. Burges there? We were wet through, having no umbrellas — we had heard that umbrellas were not allowed to be carried — we heard that any person who had an umbrella, had it taken from him, or was knocked down. Did you find Mr. Burges there 1 I do not think he was there when I first went in. Do you recollect the circumstance of a letter being written to Lord Melbourne ? I recollect the circumstance of a letter being written, but I do not know any thing about it — I wrote a note myself, which the Serjeant has spoken of. Never mind that, did you commit the great offence of sending for a great coat and pantaloons ? Yes, I did. Did you send for it to wrap up the Mayor in ? I thought of myself, and not the Mayor, at that time — but I beg to say, that I did not do it to con- ceal myself, but to get dry clothes for wet ones. Was Mr. Osborne’s close by 7 Yes, but before the man came back, I altered my mind, and went to Mr. Osborne’s, and put on dry clothes and stockings there. You left the Mayor and Magistrates at Colonel Brereton’s ? Yes; and at Mr. Osborne’s 1 found Mr. Alderman Daniel, where 1 had a mutton chop, and a glass of wine and water. 1 am verv glad you had that refreshment — but did you go back to Colonel Brereton’s ? Yes. Did you find the Mayor there ? Yes ; 1 went back with Mr. Alderman Daniel, and there we found the Mayor, and some other Magistrates, who had in the mean time arrived. How long did you stay ? We staid there some time — I do not know how long I am sure. Did you go away together ? Yes, I went with the Mayor to the Council- house. 295 During all the time you were there with the Mayor, during all the first time, and the time you were there upon your return from Mr. Osborne’s, was there any expression of personal fear used by any body, or any in- quiry as to any means of escaping, made from the Serjeant ? Not to my knowledge, certainly. Or was there the least personal fear, or cause of personal fear, at that time, at that particular spot ? No ; the mob were understood at that time to be at Lawford’s Gate, in the county of Gloucester. Bristol was, at that time, relieved from them 1 Yes, it was. You returned with the Mayor to the Council-house ? I did; I think before I went, something was said about the Bishop’s Palace, and Colonel Brereton said he should order the troops off there. Do you know why that was? No, I do not; I was in two different rooms at Colonel Brereton ’s ; I mention that, to account for any thing being said wdrile J was away ; I recollect Colonel Brereton said “ we must not rest any longer — we must turn the troops out, and see what we can do.” Meaning the 3rd dragoon guards ? Yes. When you got back to the Council-house, did you hear any further report of the Bishop’s Palace being attacked ? No, not at that time I think, but some time afterwards. Were you aware that Alderman Camplin went with a party to the Palace ? No, I was not, although now I know he did go. Are you aware that the Mayor went? Yes, I did. Did you accompany him ? Yes I did, to the archway. You set out with him ; I have not got half-way to the archway, and we shall get there sooner if we measure our steps ; how many people accom- panied the Mayor 1 I should say not exceeding twenty-five. In your progress there, was application made to the persons you met to join the party ? Yes, 1 spoke to several persons certainly. Was the Mayor with you 1 Yes, I was arm in arm with him: there was a cry for the Mayor to go ; he was in my room, and he said to me, “ What shall I do about this ?” I said, “ Mr. Mayor, as the people wish you to go, you had better go.” He said, “ very well, I will and he said, “ will you go with me'!” I said, “ certainly.” Did you see Mr. Burges? Yes, and I said, “come, gentlemen, you must all go with us.” You asked several persons to join you on your way, — did you get any one ? No, certainly not : I recollect meeting some persons in Broad- street, and I said to them, “ the Mayor of Bristol is going to the Palace, to render assistance, and he requires your attendance and assistance?” Would they join you ? Not one. Do you remember, as you approached, seeing Mr. Bulwer, a clergy- man ? I do. W as that before you got to the Palace ? It was before we got to College- green. He joined you ? Yes, he came up with us at the head of a few persons who were with him. Was it still raining? I think it was. Did you observe, at the time you got to the archway, whether your little band of twenty-five had been diminished ? Yes, it certainly had : Mr. Bulwer and some of them had gone a little in advance ; others had certainly gone in a different direction. When you arrived at the archway, that was the proper place to enter the Palace yard ? Yes. What did you hear when you got there? What 1 heard was, some per- son came in front of us and said, “ you cannot go there, the soldiers have closed up the passage, and have got the rioters in custody.” 296 In consequence of that, was a proposition made to go close by to Colonel Brereton’s? I still thought we ought rather to go on, 'and the Mayor was inclined to do so, but we met Mr. Alderman Savage, and he said, “ you cannot go that way ; the soldiers have surrounded the mob, and you cannot go on.” Then the Mayor said, “ I think we had better go to Colonel Brereton’s.” Did you, and the Mayor, and Mr. Burges, go to Colonel Brereton’s 1 Yes, certainly. Was that report confirmed there, that the military had got possession? I think Lieutenant Francis, who was Colonel Brereton’s subordinate officer, said, “ the soldiers have got the men in custody, and you can see them out of the back window,” which was close by. Did you go into the back room to look at them ? Certainly. Did you see the soldiers ? We found ourselves close upon them, with only the glass between us. How long do you think the parties staid ? Not many minutes : I should say we heard the two parties, and saw that the soldiers were drawn up all round, and in a moment the soldiers vanished, and just at the same time some man came running in, and said, “ the great division of the mob is coming up from Lawford’s-gate.” W as that followed by any shouts from the mob ? I cannot say that I heard the shouts at the moment, but I remember thinking and saying, “ this is the very worst place we can be in, between two divisions of the mob— this is the worst place to stay in ; we had better go somewhere else.” Did the soldiers pass bv in the meantime? Not at the bacK of the house : I saw the tails of the horses as they passed by the front. They having abandoned the Palace, you heard that the other mob were coming up, and you thought you were between the two ? Yes. In your opinion was that a safe place for the Magistrates to stay in ? A very unsafe place. Did you make your escape ? I cannot answer that question exactly in those terms ; I would rather state the way in which we went out. 1 had been in different rooms in the house, sometimes with the Mayor, and sometimes not with the Mayor, and at the time the statement came of the mob coming, it was the feeling of every one not to stay there. I do not know at what time the Mayor went; I believe he went before I did. Mr. Burges was the first person I saw when I got out, and I then certainly heard great shouts in the direction of Lawford’s-gate, and, upon looking round, I saw the mob coming from Lawford’s-gate, and some of them near us, quite close. Had any one received any contusion at that time ? Not that I know of: I saw a gentleman almost immediately afterwards, a Mr. Franklyn, with his mouth bleeding. After I came out at the front door, I saw some of the first people had passed us, and others were coming up very fast. Did you see Mr. Franklyn, w'ho had his face bleeding ? I thought the safest way was to walk across the Green quietly, which I did, and when I got across I saw two gentlemen, who said, “ here we are, deserted a second time by the troops, and we have made up our minds to go home and go to bed, let what will come to the city and shortly after that I saw Mr. Franklyn, who had had a blow upon his mouth, and some of his teeth struck out, in endeavouring to make his escape. I mentioned that I walked across College-green, to shew the time occupied was not any more than the time necessary to walk from Colonel Brereton’s office, and then I got to the other side, where I saw those two gentlemen. Was Mr. Franklyn a gentleman who had been acting as a special con- ble ? Yes, and now he is one of the sheriffs of the city. Had he also come from the Palace? Yes, but the precise time of my seeing him I cannot recollect. Were any of his teeth knocked out? Yes, as he stated. We have heard, from Mr. Burges, that you and he went first to his house, and then to Clifton. Yes. 297 Had you received accounts that your own family were in danger ? I had, and had written a letter to my family, in Colonel Brereton’s office, in consequence of what I had heard ; I did not know that it was any part of their intention to attack me ; I did not believe that I was obnoxious to them ; but I had heard that that was their intention ; I wrote a note, and sent it to Fisher’s ; he went over, in order that my family might be ready to be removed ; my horse was at the top of Park- street, but I could not get him ; I then went to the Hotel, at Clifton, and procured beds for my family ; when I got home, I found that my family had received intimations to the same effect as I had, but they did not leave the house. How long was it before you returned to Bristol ? I could not have been more than an hour occupied in that ; — the top of Park-street is very near Clifton, and I went to the Hotel, at Clifton, and having been there a very short time, I went back directly to Bristol. I do not wish to repeat, and their Lordships will not require you to repeat, many of the facts which have been already proved? I will endeavour to answer your questions precisely. Did you go to Mr. Fripp’s, with Mr. Burges, in the course of the night ? Yes, I did, before 12 o’clock, having heard the Dodington troop was come into the town. Are you sure it was before 12 o’clock ? Yes, I know it from a particular reason ; I know, at Mr. Daniel Fripp’s, before the note was sealed, some- body looked at his watch to ascertain the time, and the time was put in the note. Did you there find the Mayor and Mr. Alderman Fripp, sitting up? I did not see Mr. Alderman Fripp ; I understood he was lying down on the bed ; I saw Mr. Daniel Fripp and the Mayor. Did you stay there long ? About a quarter of an hour, and during that time Mr. Brice came in, as stated by Mr. Burges. Did you see Mr. Alderman Fripp come down ? It may seem extraor- dinary, but I really do not recollect. Where did you go to from Berkeley-square? I went home to my own house. What time did you return? I do not think I got into Bristol, on Monday morning, until half-past 9 or 10 o’clock ; so that I was not at the Council- house when Major Beckwith arrived ; that was a misapprehension on his part ; he did not say positively that I was there, but he mistook me, I suppose, for somebody else ; it was when he was on the eve of setting out with his troop that I came, and I did not write that paper certainly ; I understood he had a written order, and was going off. A written order from the Magistrates ? Yes, somebody asked me if it was proper, and I said, yes. Allow me to ask you, from the first time you saw the Mayor, on Satur- day, during the whole of the time you witnessed his conduct, did he exhibit to you any marks of personal fear, or want of alacrity and readiness to do his duty? I think the Mayor, during the whole of the time, shewed the most earnest desire to do his duty to the best of his ability ; and that he never balanced his personal safety, for one moment, against it; he never took into consideration, for a moment, wliatmight happen to him, if he was in the performance of his duty ; I informed him, as well as I could, and he paid every attention to it. I think he would have gone any where if I had told him it was his duty to do so. There is one question which I must ask you ; it has been stated that you said to some of the gentlemen in the Guildhall, that the Magistrates had not acted altogether under your advice ? I may have said it ; I dare say I did, if any gentleman says he heard me say so ; I have no recollection of it ; but a great many applications were made to me, and I may have been called upon to say why the troops were not called out, and 1 may have said there 298 were more Magistrates than one, and they may not have agreed together, because I do recollect feeling that the troops should have been called out, for the purpose I have already stated. W as there any particular to which you could have alluded, except what you have first mentioned, that the troops were not called out so soon as you wished 1 I had a strong impression upon my own mind, that if the soldiers had been called out to take the prisoners down to the Gaol, and the people had seen there was force enough for the Magistrates to do what they in- tended, and the constables had not had to endure those conflicts with the mob, that the riot would have been put down ; and I may have alluded to that when 1 made the observation. You have stated that Sir Charles Wetherell differed from you upon that subject] Yes. Is there any other particular upon which the Mayor declined to act under your advice! Not any whatever. When the Mayor asked me what he was to do in the situation he was placed in, I gave him the best information 1 could, and I firmly believe he would have done what I recommended, — if he did anything wrong during the day, I think I am more to blame for it than the Mayor himself. From what you saw of the disposition of the people of Bristol, from the commencement of that unfortunate Saturday to the termination on the Monday, do you believe, in your judgment, that the Mayor could have pre- vailed, by any means, upon the population of Bristol to aid him in suppress- ing the riot, short of having the military to assist them 1 I do not ; — it was my firm belief at the time, and it is my opinion now, that it was quite impossible for him to have done so. Do you happen to know, of your own knowledge, whether orders w'ere given to the livery stable-keepers at the Repositories, to provide accom- modation for any troops that might arrive ? Not of my own knowledge, I heard it said at the time. Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. My learned friend has put a question to you ; I should wish you to repeat whether you said you had given your advice to the Magistrates the night before, and that it had not been acted upon ? I cannot give you any other answer than I have already given; I may have said so, and I dare say I did say so, but I have no particular recollection -of it. Did you say you had recommended the posse comitatus to be called out the night before, and you did not know r why it was not done ! Yes, I did say so as to the Saturday evening ; but it was said to the Sheriffs and not to the Magistrates ; I said, “That belongs to the Sheriffs; do not hang that upon the Magistrates ;” when Mr. Taunton said to me, on the Sunday morning, that they ought to be called out, I said, “ 1 think so too, and I said so last night.” Do you recollect anv ad vice you gave the Magistrates they did not follow, except not sending the troops w T ith the prisoners! Yes, there was another thing as to Sir Charles Wetherell’s withdrawing from the town ; I was of opinion, that if his carriage had been draw-n up to the door, and the troops had been drawn out to surround it, the populace would have known it, and the hand bills would have been unnecessary. Some one said, “ Where is Sir Charles W eiherell !” some one said he was gone, others said he was not; I thought he was gone, because I had advised him to go; I said, “ For God’s sake let me adviseyou to go,” and I have not the slightest doubt he vvonld have been murdered, if he had stayed. if you had said you had given anv advice which had not been followed, it alluded to those two circumstances ! Yes, certainly ; I am not aw r are of any thing else; if you w’ill lead me to any thing I wili answer you. ‘299 I do not know any tiling ; it is not for me to lead you 1 If you will try 1 should be glad, for I should be sorry to leave the box with any mis- taken impression on the part of any one. You will never leave the box if you will give such long explanations. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — Was there any thing else ? 1 may have said something about the Magistrates, and I dicl not think that the military Mr. Attorney-General. — You are not to give opinions. (Witness)— Ask me any question. I cannot — you will not let me ? (Witness.) — Put any question without an observation, and I will answer it. It has been stated that you told the people that Colonel Brereton had given reasons that you thought satisfactory for withdrawing the troops ; is that true 1 I will not say it is true, or not ; I do not say I did not say 30, but I do not recollect it ; it is very likely I did say so,— 1 think I did to that effect. If you did, what was the reason be gave that appeared to you satis- factory ? The only reason I recollect, was this : “ the men are jaded, their horses are jaded, the men are very much tired — and, besides that, they have so exasperated the people by firing upon the mob, and killing a man, their lives would not be safe.” I said, “ I thought those troops would have been sufficient to have done any thing required of them” ; he said, “you may rely upon it they are not” ; he said, “ all we can do, is to temporize and keep the mob in good humour until the reinforcements come.” Was it some time before that he had told you he would not have the soldiers lives sacrificed 1 I suppose it must have been before that — it must have been. In answer to that, did you say to him that you were surprised to hear that from him, that you did not think it a soldier’s reason ? To that effect. In those words 1 I think I said — “ Good God ! is that a soldier’s reason V* And then, I think, I have understood that he said he saw no reason why soldiers’ lives should be sacrificed unnecessarily? Yes; to which I said, “ I think so too — but you are sent for the protection of the inhabitants, and they are entitled to your assistance.” Did you call it assistance for the troops to be sacrificed while the civil power staid at home 1 I do not know what you call it — I state the facts, and others must put their constructions upon them, and I have no objection to hear yours — perhaps I might have said “ protection,” — probably it was. I think I understood from you there was some difficulty on your part in letting any persons that assembled know that the 1 4th dragoons were gone ! It was rather my wish to keep the fact in the back-ground. To deceive them ? I will not adopt that word from any man in England — I had no intention to deceive any man. Mr. Justice Taunton, (to the Attorney-General.) — A construction may be put upon the answer of an invidious character, which leads into those explanations to which you have objected. Mr. Attorney-General. — Perhaps there may — but I want to know whether Mr. Cooke, at the time he said he and his sons would not go out unless the military did, were they kept in ignorance that the}’- were not there to go out ? Ido not know what you mean by being kept in ignorance — I bad not mentioned it. He did not know it ? I did not tell him. On the contrary 1 I do not know that he did not know it — I did not think it discreet to state it — Mr. Cooke would have known it, if he had stopped a little longer. He had no opportunity of knowing it then ? I do not know that he had, but Colonel Brereton came in a little time afterwards, and stated it. You have used the expression, that several persons there wished there had been more vigour the night before ? Yes. 390 You mentioned something about firing — did any person say that by vigour they meant firing ? I have not said that, but somebody said some- thing about firing upon the people. I think some observation of that sort was made, that if the people had been fired upon on Saturday night, there would have been no rioting on the Sunday, but you must allow me to say a single word — I cannot speak to the precise expressions. Mr. Attorney-General. — It stands now that the word ‘firing’ w'asused. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — It stands now, that some of the persons were angry that the people had not been fired upon. Mr. Justice Taunton. — And that they w'ere angry that more vigour had not been used? Yes, and some gentlemen said, “why was not more vigour used last night ?” — and another said, “ why were they not fired upon last night I will not mention names, but that was the substance of what they said. Mr. Attorney-General. — You will not say that the word ‘ firing’ was used! I cannot. With regard to the clothes, I understand you to say, you went to Mr. Osborne’s, to put on the dry things ? I did, and dressed at his house. Did you come back, in the dry things, to the office 1 Yes. You got them wet again? Yes, in the course of the evening. How long do you think you were absent ? Just long enough to put my- self in dry clothes, eat tw'o mutton chops, and drink a glass of wine and water. Allow me to ask you, whom did you leave at the office when you went away ? I think the Mayor and Mr. Alderman Fripp were there ; whether any other persons, or what other persons, I cannot say — I think Mr. Aider- man Goldney. When you came back you found them there still ? I did. Was not there a public meeting held at the Commercial- Rooms, on the 3rd of November, upon the subject of this matter 1 There were one or two held in the course of the week. The day before the statement was written out and composed ? I did not attend any public meeting at the Commercial Rooms, nor do I know of it, except having heard it. Did you hear it from the Mayor? No, I think not ; I heard it generally. Do you know that the property in Queen-square was the property of the Corporation 1 I believe it is so. Is it a ground-rent ? I do not know. Mr. Attorney-General. — Mr. Burges can tell us. Did the Corpora- tion make any claim for compensation? Mr. Burges. — They have brought an action against the Hundred, as reversioners, for their interest : the leases are granted out for forty years, with covenants for renewal in some instances 5 in other instances they are granted for terms absolute. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — One of the Jury wishes to know, from Mr. Ser- jeant Ludlow', w'hether he is professionally engaged in the defence of the Magistrates? I cannot answer that with a simple Yes or No. I had a brief sent to me some time ago, and I sent w T ord to say that, before I connected myself with the cause, 1 should wish to know w'hether I was to be a witness, as I could not appear in both characters. I came to town, and placed myself in the hands of Sir James Scarlett, Mr. Campbell, and Mr. Follett ; and I have done w'hat they advised me to do, and I am quite sure I have done what is right. Mr. Justice Littledale. — Do you remember w'hen there was a conver- sation about the Mayor going to the Palace, w'hether he came down stairs and went back again ? I have been turning that in my recollection, and I think when w'e came down stairs, Mr. Alderman Savage was in the house, and the Mayor said, “ had w r e not better have Mr. Alderman Savage with 301 us?”— and we went back a few steps to enquire for him, but he had gone down, in the meantime, the Chamberlain’s stairs, and was gone. I am quite sure there was not more than the delay of a minute or two between our going back again and going out of the house. Major DIG BY MACK WORTH sworn. — Examined by Mr. Campbell. I believe you are a Major in the army, and Aide-de-Camp to Lord Ilill? I am. How long have you been upon the staff of Lord Hill? Twenty years: not during the whole time, but from the first of my going on Lord Hill’s staff. I have been in India since. Did you happen to be at Bristol on the 30th of October ? I was on the 29th. I believe you had been sent down into the Forest of Dean, to suppress somejriots there ? I had. Did you come to Queen-square in the course of the Saturday evening ? I did. What was the state of Queen-square at that time — about what time did you come? I came first about one o’clock, and afterwards about seven. What was the state of Queen-square about seven o’clock ? A very large assemblage of people, but not much rioting at that moment. Did you find that any assault had been made upon the Mansion-house ? I did. Did you observe any windows broken? I did. Did you observe the iron railings in front torn up ? I did. Did you observe whether the curb-stones were still upon some of the iron railings that had been torn up ? They were in most instances. What was doing with these railings at that time? Nothing was doing with them. When did you see them ? They were moved from their situation, and in an irregular manner, partly across the pavement. Did you go into the Mansion-house ? I did. How long did you remain in the Mansion-house? From seven till a lit- tle after one, occasionally going out amongst the people. Did you hear any orders given, or did you give any orders yourself to Colonel Brereton ? I heard them given, and I gave them myself. To do what? To use his utmost force to put down the riot. By whom were they given ? By the Mayor. What answer was made by Colonel Brereton ? He said he thought it might be done by less violent means — that the mob seemed better humoured than they were ; and on one occasion, when the Mayor gave the order very strongly, he said, “ Am I to fire, Sir?” The Mayor paused before he gave his answer, which was “ You must fire if the riot cannot be suppressed without it,” or words as nearly to that effect as possible. I then begged the Mayor and Colonel Brereton on no account to fire, and gave my reasons. What were the reasons you gave ? That firing was a bad mode for cavalry to act, and that shots which were designed for active rioters would often reach innocent people, and that I was convinced, by the combined effort of the civil and military force, the people might be dispersed in a few minutes. Did you propose to do any thing with the constables ? I did : I said that hitherto the constables had only acted, as far as L saw, in a desultory manner, and that if the Mayor would be good enough to give his assist- ance, as I was a stranger, I thought an efficient organization might be given to them which would answer the purpose. Did the Mayor agree to that? The Mayor agreed to that immediately. Did you divide the constables into detachments? Yes, I did, into four, and placed a chief constable in the immediate command of each. 302 Did the Mayor and the Magistrates co-operate with you in giving these orders? The Mayor went with me into the Banquetting-room, where the whole of the constables were required to collect, and where the four wards were formed into four bodies. The Mayor spoke to them, and I gave them a few short directions, which were, to keep together — to obey no order except from their own immediate chief, and on no account to quit their ranks till they were relieved or desired to go. From the time you went to the Mansion-house, about seven, till you left, are you aware of any thing that the Mayor and Magistrates could have done more than they did to restore the peace of the city? Nothing that I am aware of. Now, as nearly as you can recollect, at what time did you leave the Mansion-house ? I think half-past one. Was the Square in quiet? Perfectly. Did you return to your lodgings? Yes, I did, to a friend’s house at Clifton. Did you return to the Mansion-house the next morning ? Yes, I did. About what hour ? I should think about seven. Did you enter the Mansion-house? I did. Did you see the Mayor? I did. And the other Magistrates ? I did not know them : I saw other persons there, but I did not know them. What was the state of the Square at that time? There was a party of the dragoons, about six of them, and about fifty or sixty people round the door. You think not more than fifty or sixty at that time ? Not more at that time. Were they quiet at that time ? Yes, tolerably quiet. Did you recommend any thing with respect to the dragoons ? Nothing. Did the dragoons continue there for a considerable time ? Yes. How long ? Probably for an hour or two. Did they then withdraw ? Yes, they did withdraw : I did not know it, but I knew it from what transpired. Did the mob increase i Very much. Had any precautions been taken to barricade the windows of the Man- sion-house ? They had been boarded up. During the night ? During the night, I suppose. What number of persons do you suppose were in the Mansion-house at that time ? Certainly less than ten. Did the mob proceed, by and by, to attack the Mausion-house ? Yes, they did. At what time ? I suppose about half-past eight, but I had no watch with me, or any means of ascertaning the time. How did they attack it? By a violent assault of stones, and iron rails and posts rolled in, and they broke down the wooden fastenings and the wooden shutter that had been put up. They assaulted the Mansion-house with stones and the iron rails? Yes. Had the Mayor had any protection ? None. Did they force an entrance into the lower rooms of the Mansion-house ? Yes, they did. In considerable numbers ? I cannot tell that. Did you see whether, from the window, there were any considerable number of persons in the Square? Yes, 1 saw a great man}-. Was there a great deal of shouting? Yes, a great deal. Had the dragoons withdrawn before that time? I know since that they had. At that time were the mob rapidly increasing ? Their noise was rapidly increasing certainly. Did it appear to you that the life of the Mayor was then in danger ? Yes, undoubtedly. 303 You have no doubt about it now? None. Did you give the Mayor any advice? I did. What was it? I said to him “ Now, Sir, it is time for us to be going,’' or words to that effect. What said the Mayor? “ I do not know, — I think I ought to stay here.” What did you say to that? _ I said, as a soldier I could assure him it was right for him to go— “ it is even your duty.” Upon that did he agree to leave the Mansion-house? He did : I had previously asked whether there was a back way of escape, when the riot increased. Did he upon that, or any other occasion, shew any want of personal courage? Never. Was he cool, collected, and firm ? As cool as ever I saw any man, and I may add, perhaps not untruly, the most cool of the party. Audyou accompanied him in escaping from the Mansion-house? I did. Were you always together ? Yes, always. State how you did escape ? We were standing on the landing place, at the first story, and went up towards the bed-rooms, but on the landing- place, half up the stair-case, there was a window looking on the leads of the Custom-house, and out of which we got upon the leads. From the leads ? From the leads we descended into an open court. Belonging to Mr. Leman’s premises? I cannot speak to that. But the open court of an adjoining house? No ; I think it belonged to the Mansion-house. From the open court how did you go? A ladder was brought, and we got over a low wall into another court, and that I take to be the court of the adjoining house, but I cannot speak to that. How did you get the ladder ? Some person brought it ; I did not know him. Were there any women there? None that I saw ; certainly none. You say there were no women there? No, none, not at the part where we were. I mean when you and the Mayor were escaping — were you ever in any room with women, or did any women assist ? 1 never saw any the whole time. Was the Mayor close by the whole time? He was close by me; I assisted him up the ladder; he went up the ladder before me, and I assisted him up. From the second court whence did you proceed ? We went to the leads of the house of which that was a court: we went into the house, and got upon the leads, and from thence over the leads of several houses, between the double roofs, and at last reached what they told me was the Custom- house, and there was one of the party kicked a pane of glass out, with a view to open the window ; but before it was opened, a woman came up and opened the window, and we got into the Custom-house. Where did you part with the Mayor? In College-green. Were there any other gentlemen with you and the Mayor? Yes, four, or five, or six. Four or five men? Yes, men all of them. You accompanied the Mayor to College-green ? Yes, I did. Did all those five or six escape in the same manner and at the same time ? Two or three escaped with us. Mr. Justice Littledale. — What is the object of this ? Sir James Scarlett. — There has been a witness called to speak to the mode of the Mayor’s escape, and thrown a great deal of ridicule upon him. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — That is not material to the case. Sir J ames Scarlett. — I cannot tell, — it was thought material enough to ask the question. Mr. Campbell. — You accompanied him to College-green ? Yes. 304 Were you at the Council-house during any part of the Sunday! Yes, I was. Without carrying you through that detail again, did it appear to you that the Mayor had any means, by the civil force, to suppress the riots that were then existing in the city. Mr. Attorney-General. — It is hardly possible for any one to answer that question. Mr. Campbell. — Did the persons you saw decline, without the assist- ance of the military, to assist the Mayor ? On offering to take a constable’s staff, and heading the people, five or six offered to go with me, but the others said they were too few — they had better wait for more. Mr. Justice Littledale. — When was this! It occurred between six and eight o’clock on the Sunday evening. Mr. Campbell. — Did you hear any persons express any disappointment that the military did not co-operate ? Yes, I did. Mr. Justice Littledale. — How many were the rest that refused to go? They were in different rooms, and upon the stair-case, and on the passage. I should guess a hundred and fifty, but I speak that quite loosely. Mr. Campbell. — Was there a desire expressed by them, that the military should co-operate 1 There was — and by others, if the Magistrates would do without the military, they would endeavour to get some body together, and endeavour to quell the riots without. That was on the condition that the military should not be employed ? Yes, expressly on that condition. Do you know who it was made that condition ? Mr. Herapath. That is the gentleman who has been described as the President of the Political Union ? I understand so. On the Monday morning at what hour did you go to Queen-square ? About a quarter before six. In what state was it at that time ? Two sides were burned. W ere there many of the mob at that time ? A great many at one quarter of the Square, where they were about two houses on the remaining side. Will you state what steps were taken to suppress the riot 1 I met the 3rd dragooon guards, with Colonel Brereton and Cornet Kelson at their head, patrolling through the street that communicates from Prince’s-street to the Square, at the angle of the two burning sides. I met them at that corner just opposite to the mob, when seeing the mob had actually broken into the two houses by which there is an indent in the basin, by which the bowsprits of the ships in the basin come near the houses — it occurred to me that the shipping might catch fire, and the whole city be burnt. What did you do upon that? I took the liberty of mentioning that, to excuse the highly unmilitary act I did ; I called out “ Colonel Brereton, we must charge,” and, without waiting for his answer, I gave the word of command to charge. You were mounted? I was. And charged at the head of them 1 I did. Did you order several successive charges 1 I did. Under the extreme circumstances of the case, superseding your superior officer. Yes. Colonel Brereton charged with you? Yes, and as we were going at 3peed, I said, “ I beg your pardon, Colonel Brereton, but I could not help it.” Did you succeed in clearing the Square ? No. You saved the houses ? Yes. But you could not, without more force, disperse the mob ? I thought not ; they collected in the courts before the houses ; as soon as we dispersed them they got inside the rails of those courts, and collected as fast as we cleared them, and fired some shots. 305 The mob did ? Yes, three or four shots at the military, and a volley of stones, but not a serious resistance worth mentioning. Did you propose to go to Keynsham, to fetch the 14th dragoons ? I did ; I being the only person, although a soldier, in plain clothes, and likely to get through the mob. Did you ride off to Keynsham ? I did. Did you bring them back as speedily as you could ? I rode off at a gallop, but brought them back at a walk. So as not to tire the horses? Yes. Upon your return with the 14th, did you find that Major Beckwith had arrived ? Yes, I did. Were they put under the command of Major Beckwith, as the Colonel of the regiment? I gave them up to Colonel Brereton, and went to the Magistrates. Certain charges were afterwards made, and the mob completely dis- persed? Yes, I went afterwards, and joined the 14th dragoons. A good many lives were lost? A great many were wounded, but 1 should not say many, but several lives were lost. I saw about five or six killed myself. ' How many troops were there altogether making these final charges 1 The third dragoon guards were not engaged in the charges — the final charges were made by 57 men of the two troops, who were joined by a third troop that arrived from Gloucester, of more than a hundred. Did you make several charges with the three troops of the 14th 1 We did. How long was it before the mob were completely dispersed, from the time you began making charges ? I was not above an hour with them : as soon as I saw the body of the mob dispersed, I joined the Magistrates. Were they pretty much engaged in dispersing the bodies of the mobs? Yes. And then the peace of the city was completely restored ? Yes, it was. Do you know how many men there were of the 3rd dragoon guards? Thirty-three, and twenty-three engaged in the charge, but there were thirty -three persons in the Square. At the time when the peace of the city was completely restored, did you observe there was no deficiency on the part of the Mayor? Indeed, for the contrary, every suggestion that I could give, as a military man, he entertained, and had executed, or caused to be executed. With the means that he possessed are you aware of any thing that he could have done to have restored the peace of the city ? Nothing more than any means that I saw. Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. On the Saturday evening when you were there, before you marshalled the constables, was not there an entire want of organization among them ? There was. W ere there many irregular conflicts among them and the people, not at all directed and controlled by any Magistrate ? Yes, apparently. With respect to the time of the escape the next morning, you say there were no women present at that time ? No. Had the women any notice so that they did escape at all? I think I remember the Mayor sending notice to them to escape, but I cannot speak positively. Did you see them? Not at all. When you say four or five men were escaping at that time, can you men- tion their names ! Not at all — I fancied they were special constables — I knew the face of one or two. Y 306 You parted with the Mayor at College-green on his way to the Council- house or the Guildhall? I do not know where he went. It was in that direction! No, not at all. And I think you left Bristol then ! I went to Clifton. At that time of the morning ! I suppose between eight and nine. Did you remain at Clifton the whole of the day ! No, I did not. Where were you! Frequently in Bristol upon horseback. How long did you remain at Clifton before you returned to Bristol! About an hour and a half or two hours, but I am very uncertain about the time. What part of the city did you return to ! I certainly went to Queen- square and to Welch Back — but I do not remember the particulars. You have stated that you do not know much of what was going on on Sunday? No, very little except generally, I did not know of my own knowledge. You published what you called a personal narrative soon after that ? I printed it without intending it should be published. It found its way into the papers ? It did. Did you compose it by Lord Hill’s desire or any body’s desire ? No, not by any body’s desire. Yes, I beg your pardon, it was by his desire ; he desired me to give him a written statement of what I had noticed. Was it by his Lordship’s desire you printed it! No. It appeared in the London papers, it was dated the 8th of November, I think ! Yes, it was. When was it printed ? Immediately. How soon did it appear in the papers ! The first time I saw it was on my return to Bristol ; it appeared in the Bristol papers, I should think the 10th or 11th. Were you called as a witness before the Military Court of Enquiry that sat at Bristol ? I was. You were summoned to attend the Court Martial ! It was at the Court Martial I was summoned ; I was not at the Court of Enquiry ; I only went to verify my narrative, they took that as my evidence. Towards the evening of Sunday you went away from the scene of mis- chief! Yes. “ Disgusted at the party spirit you witnessed among the inhabitants, and resolved to retire to rest and do nothing till the following morning?” Yes. Were you convinced that “ such scenes would then occur as w r ould then arouse the public feeling, and render the Military Force tolerably effective j I little anticipated however, the fearful extent of the mischief?”* I was. That was your feeling ! Yes, it was. Probably you were not called in as a witness at the Court Martial ? Yes, I was. Re-examined by Sir James Scarlett. Will you have the goodness to explain what you mean by the party spirit you witnessed ! On several grounds : I had employed myself a good deal on Sunday in going among the mob in various places, to ascertain their feeling, and to see what the views of the spectators were, whether it was mere curiosity, whether they felt any sympathy with the mischievous rioters. What was the result of your remarks ! I spoke to many of the mischief of remaining— that they seemed to aid the mob, and I had various answers ; some, “ that all was right,” and others, “that they were there for the King and Reform,” and a variety of foolish remarks. Some said that all was right, and others that they were there for the King and Reform, — anything else ! I begged them to go away ; that they were * Extract from Major Mackworth’s Narrative. 307 aiding the mob, in fact, by their presence if nothing else, and they would not. I spoke to several well-dressed people ; but what 1 principally alluded to in the narrative w-as the discussions to which I was a witness for an hour and a half at the Town-hall between the inhabitants, and which shewed a great deal of party spirit, in my judgment. Can you mention any particulars 1 — was it about the use of the military 1 The particulars were innumerable ; some proposing one plan, and some another ; and some accusing the others, that all this mischief arose from their political sentiments, and others recriminating, and nothing agreed upon ; when a Magistrate proposed one thing, another person started another thing ; it is difficult to give a correct idea of it. Did you find the parties present willing to accept any proposition of the J ustices ? I think a good number, certainly, would ; others would not ; from their general sentiments, a number would have seconded the Magis- trates, in any proposition they might make, but the others would not. From what you did see and observe, did you consider the prevalence of that spirit very unfortunate at the time, and rendered the Mayor incapable of commanding their aid? I did think so ; I was satisfied, until something occurred to unite them, nothing effectual would be done. That is the sentiment you expressed to my learned friend, upon his putting the question to you, that till something was done to induce them to act, nothing could be effected ; did you, from the appearance of the mob, apprehend, that some mischief would ensue on the Sunday ? I had no doubt, from the Gaols having been burnt, and the mob unopposed, that they would proceed to attack private property, judging from a general principle. Was that what you alluded to ? Yes, I stated it to the meeting, in the presence of Alderman Savage. At the Council-house ? Yes, Mr. Alderman Savage was the only person except Mr. Alderman Hilhouse, who was pointed out to me, that I knew. Do you mean the meeting at the Council-house ? I do. Was the Mayor there ? Not at that particular time. When you returned, on the Monday morning, what you expected had taken place ? Yes, except that it was worse. You had not anticipated it being so bad ? No. Did you find, on the Monday, that the operations of that night had produced a totally different sentiment in the inhabitants? Yes, a totally different sentiment; 1 had a good opportunity of witnessing it. What was it ? When I brought in the 14th dragoons, I brought them through one of the worst parts of the city, inhabited by the lower orders, and at the doors we were welcomed with exclamations of delight and joy. That was the same troop that had been hooted and pelted out the day before? Yes, the same squadron. My learned friend has asked you whether, till you proposed the organi- zation of the constables, you perceived any organization of them, to make them effective ; was it suggested to you , by your military knowledge and tactics, that it was proper to organize them and head them ? It was sug- gested by seeing them heaped up in a useless mass at the Mansion-house, and just at the door. Was that heaping up at the Mansion-house the result of the order of the Magistrates, or of the whole disorder of the thing ? The result of the whole disorder evidently. When the constables were organized in that way, have you any reason to know whether the bodies did keep together as you had ordered them, or quitted their places? They did pretty well for about half an hour, until I thought the riot was over ; I had visited them frequently, to see them, and about an hour afterwards I left the place, and went home, all seeming quiet. Y 2 308 Did the knowledge of your profession and your habits lead you to form a better judgment than those Aldermen had, upon the subject of organization and arrangement ? Yes ; I should not have interfered, had I not conceived it a military question, and it was for that reason I was directed, by the Commander in Chief, to give any advice I could to the Magistrates, purely upon professional matters. I hope I may ask you, without disparaging my client, whether you discovered any great military talent among the Aldermen of Bristol 1 I had no opportunity. You did not ascertain, by examination, whether they had been accus- tomed to defend a besieged town ? No. Or to discipline troops ? No. Mr. Attorney-General. — Did you not suggest the employment of the pensioners, two days before 1 I did. Did you know how many there were, at Bristol! No, I did not; I asked, and was told about 300. Did you suggest it to the Mayor ? Yes, in a private house. Sir James Scarlett. — That was two days before 1 Yes. What answer did you obtain 1 That the Mayor did not think they could be assembled without a good deal of trouble to assemble them. That there was not time to do it by the 29tli 1 Yes. lie stated that as his opinion 1 Yes. Did the Mayor inform you how many constables had been arranged ? No, he did not ; I did not press the subject so much as I ought to have done. May I be permitted to make one remark as to the third dragoons, — and it is without having any bearing upon this cause. I am quite sure that the conduct of the third dragoons must have excited a strong suspicion in the minds of the Magistrates, and inhabitants, that they would not do their duty ; but I beg to say, that from their conduct afterwards, I am satisfied they only thought they were following the example pointed out by Colonel Brereton, and that he did it probably from humane motives. Captain JOHN COOKE sworn — Examined by Mr. Campbell. You are a Captain in the militia ? I am, and on half-pay in the line. Were you at Guildhall, at Bristol, on this Sunday, the 30th of October ? Yes, I was. At what hour did you go to the Guildhall ? About three o’clock. Did you see the Magistrates there 1 I saw the Mayor, and some of the M agistrates. Did you hear any of the citizens saying whether they would act with or without troops ? The general feeling was, that they could do nothing without the soldiers. Was that said ? Yes, it was said by almost every one there. Did you hear any thing said to Colonel Brereton about the military ? He came in soon after that time, and Mr. Ludlow, who had been then speaking to the persons assembled, asked him if he knew the state of the city, and whether he was prepared still to keep away the troops under the circumstances in which it was placed. What said he to that ? Colonel Brereton said they were tired and jaded and unfit for duty, and their lives would be in danger. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — That has been proved five or six times over. Mr. Campbell. — He refused to bring them back ? Yes. Did it appear to you to be possible for the Magistrates to get any Civil Force to act without the military ? No, there were less than one hundred persons assembled. Did the majority of those say that they would not act without the military! Yes, they were calling out for the soldiers; and some of them said they were sacrificed to the mob. 309 Before the Magistrates left the Guildhall and went to the Council-house, did you hear any deliberation as to what would be the best place to make a stand at? I was not standing far from Mr. Ludlow when he asked whe- ther that was the best place to make a stand at, expecting an attack ; I said, I thought the Council-house was better than that, as there were two fronts to the street and a great many windows, and the Guildhall was a long narrow building. Was there anything said about keeping together? I think not; Mr Ludlow said, “ Do not let us give it up,— though the soldiers are gone, I am ready to stand here to the last, if you think this is the best place.” You having recommended the Magistrates to adjourn to the Council- house ? Yes, which they did soon after. Do you know the city of Bristol well? I do. In your judgment, would it have been a prudent thing to have put fire- arms into the hands of the constables to suppress the mob ? I should think the most imprudent thing that could have been adopted. For what reason ? There were no soldiers to support them, — they must have acted on the offensive, and it was not probable that that could have long lasted with undisciplined persons ; although they might for a time have been of use they would have lost their arms, and been unable to stand against the mob, and there must have been a great sacrifice of life and property. Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. Did you give that opinion aloud in the Guildhall? Yes; I do not know that all the persons there heard it. Did you state it alone ? I stated it to Mr. Ludlow . Did you state it aloud ? No. W ere there persons wishing to have fire-arms that they might do garrison duty in their own defence ? I did not hear them. How came you to mention it then ? It was stated there. By whom? I was asked whether arming citizens would do, — whether I thought it would be attended with any advantage. Who put that question ? I really do not know. Was that question put without a disposition being expressed to use arms if they could get them? There was a general cry for the assistance of the soldiers, the state the town was in probably suggested the idea of wishing to arm themselves. Was that wish expressed ? I hod heard it. Upon your oath did you give that opinion about the use of aims without hearing many persons express a wish to be trusted with them ? I did not hear many persons express a wish to be trusted with them. Some ? I do not know. One ? I do not know that it was mentioned in the Hall. Have you seen much service? I have not. Have you served in Spain or in Holland? No, I haye not. In the militia? I have been in the militia the greater part of my life. Did the Mayor resort to you for advice upon the mode in which the town was to be defended ? Not at all. Did any other person express the same opinion with you as to the use of arms by the citizens ? I did not hear any opinion of the kind expressed. Do you live at Bristol ? I do. Are you a housekeeper there ? No, I am not. A lodger, perhaps? A lodger. As you thought the use of fire-arms imprudent, did you suggest anything else that could be done ? I did not. Did you think that the Council-house was better to defend, because it had two fronts to the street ? Yes. And the Guildhall only one and narrow ? Yes. Two fronts and more windows'? Yes. And an escape behind ? I am speaking of the Guildhall ; there was only one small door behind at the Guildhall. How many at the Council-house 1 I really do not know. Not know ! — why you were comparing these two military positions 1 Not strictly. You thought it better to make the Council-house the place of last defence because there was a better mode of escape 1 I said no such thing. I so understood you ? I said because it was better to defend and had two fronts to the street. Did you not state that to Mr. Serjeant Ludlow? No. That there was but one escape ? 1 said there was but one door, and a long narrow building, and they could not defend themselves. Re-examined by Mr. Campbell. Was any one foihidden to use arms in his own defence ? No. In defence of his person, his property, or his life ? No. My question was, did you think it a prudent thing to arm the constables, with a view actively to disperse the mob ? Certainly not. You gave that as your opinion ? Certainly. In your judgment, would the mob have had a better opportunity of assailing the Guildhall than the Council-house? I think much better. Explain why ? There was a door opening to the street at the Guildhall, and on the other side there was another door, but it was rather the difference in the form and the number of windows it likewise had. Mr. Justice J. Park. — It is perfectly immaterial which of the two was the most defensible .a great many enquiries we have had have been per- fectly immaterial. Mr. Campbell. — It appears that my Learned Friend, as a General Officer knows more than Captain Cook. Mr. Attorney-General. — I do not compete with him in anything. Mr. Campbell.— He is as respectable as any man in this Court. Mr. Attorney-General.- — A. friend of the Town-Clerk ! Mr. Campbell. — He is the friend of those I value as much as any one in this Court. (To the witness.) — W as that your opinion as to the Council- house Yes, certainly. Sir James Scarlett. — Will your Lordships permit me to ask Major Mackworth as to the expediency of putting arms in the hands of the mob? I forgot it before. Major DIGBY MACKWORTH called again. — Examined by Sir James Scarlett. In your judgment, would it have been discreet to have trusted the con- stables, or the inhabitants generally, who were ready to come forward, if any there were, with fire-arms, for the purpose of offensive measures ? Certainly not; it would have been the worst thing in the world. With respect to a man firing out of his own window, to defend his house — any man may do that ? That is a different thing. Mr. Attorney-General. — Suppose you had been there to marshal them ? I should not have given them fire-arms, when I offered to lead them. Supposing no military force were to be had at all, and many of the inha- bitants were ready to act with fire-arms to disperse the mob, do you not think they might have been so marshalled as to do essential service to the city? Not in any reasonable time. .311 What do you call reasonable time ? A day or two; they must be exercised. Did you ever make the experiment ? Never. There was no question put to you upon this subject? None whatever. If any question had been put to you, should you have hesitated in dis- suading them from doing it 1 Not an instant. Mr. Justice Taunton. — Though you never made the experiment, did you ever, in the whole course of your experience, hear of such an experi- ment being made ? No, it is generally considered so dangerous to put arms into the hands of young recruits, that they had rather be without them. Mr. Attorney-General. — Who had rather be without them ? The Officer commanding them would rather not have the service of recruits, with arms in their hands. Mr. WILLIAM DIAPER BRICE sworn. — Examined by Mr. Follett. You are the partner of Mr. Burges, who was examined just now ? I am. You were at Bristol, and attended the meeting of the Magistrates before these disturbances broke out? I did. You were also there during the Saturday and Sunday ? I wa3. I do not want to take you over the same ground which Mr. Burges has spoken to. You were with him during the whole day ? Almost the whole of the day. You heard Mr. Burges examined ? I did. As far as you can speak from having been with him, is what he has stated a correct account ? Strictly correct. I want to ask you about your going to the Mayor for the billets for the Dodington troop ; do you remember going to Mr. Fripp’s house? I do. Before you went to the Mayor, had you seen Mr. Alderman Hilhouse 1 Yes, Mr. Alderman George Hilhouse. You had learned from him where the Mayor was? I had. Ahout what time in the night did you get to Mr. Fripp’s ? At about ten minutes to twelve, — a little before twelve. You and your son went together ? We did. Had you taken any blank billets with you to be filled up? No, I got them there; they were written there. You were present when the letter that was read just now was written ? I was. And the billets signed by the Mayor ? Yes. And the letter and the billets were then given to you ? Mr. Alderman Fripp mentioned how they should be sent ; and the Mayor said, “ how are they to be sent ?” I said I would take them. Mr. Alderman Fripp was present? Yes. When you got that letter and the billets, where did you go? I went with my son to the Recruiting Office, in College-green. Who did you find there ? We saw a man at the door, out of regimentals ; but he appeared to me to be one of the Staff Serjeants. Did you enquire for Colonel Brereton? Yes, I did. Did you find him there ? The man gave me an answer I could not understand ; he did not appear to know what he was about. I said, “ I have got a letter from the Mayor, I must find Colonel Brereton ;” he said, “ you cannot come in here, he is not here I said I must go in, and we both forced ourselves past him, and went through the court, and got into Colonel Brereton’s office. You found he was not there? Yes; but we saw a man sitting there, who said he would take us immediately to Colonel Brereton ; he was across the Green. Did you go across the Green ? Yes, we did. To Mr. Francis’s 1 Yes. He is a Lieutenant in the army? He is the District Adjutant. Did you see Lieutenant Francis ? No. Whom did you see ? We rang the bell, and saw a woman ; she told us that Colonel Brereton was not at home; I then said again, “ I have a letter from the Mayor, of considerable consequence, with billets;” the Seijeant said, “ Give them to me, and I will give them to Col. Breeeton the moment he comes in.” Who said? Serjeant Dinidge who had gone with us there. What did you do with them ? We gave the letter and the billets to him there, explaining that the billets were signed by the Mayor, and left in blank for Colonel Brereton to fill up, as he found necessary, and to be directed to Fisher’s, or to Leigh’s, as he found most convenient. What was done wdth the letter ? I gave the letter to him, and he said he would take charge of both, and give them to Colonel Brereton — he ex- pected him in immediately ; and I. then left them. You say this was Serjeant Dinidge? Yes. The witness examined the other day ? It was. Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. Were you at the Recruiting-office about six o’clock 1 Yes, about that time. Did you go with the Mayor ? No, with Mr. Burges, I think. Did the Mayor come there 1 He was there when I arrived. How long did you stay ? Whilst I was there, there was some report made to the Magistrates of a quantity of guns being at Hole’s the gun- smith — one of the Magistrates said, Mr. Alderman Daniel and Mr. Seijeant Ludlow w'ere at Mr. Osborne’s, and they wished me to go to them, and bring them — and I went to them, and brought them back to Colonel Brereton’s office ; they were taking some refreshment. Did you stay after that, as long as the Mayor did ? I think I went out — I think they desired me to go out for some pnrpose or another, and I returned again. Was the Mayor there, then ? I think he was — I do not recollect ac- companying him back to the Council-house. Which left first? I think I remained with Mr. Burges.— I cannot say which left first. W ere you there when the Bishop’s Palace was attacked ? I was ; I ac- companied the party there. Will you tell us in a few wmrds, if you can, in what sense this Queen- square is Corporation property ? The Corporation are the lessors — they have granted the property in the greater number of instances, to parties for 40 years, with a covenant to renew those leases at the end of every 14 years, upon certain fines, with covenants to repair and rebuild. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — Is this material to this case? (Witness.) — Some of it is in hand. Mr. Justice Taunton. — The leases themselves are the best evidence. Mt.Attorney-General. — Your Lordship would not like to have them. Mr. Justice Taunton. — Probably not. Mr. Attorney-General. — My Learned Friend said that this was burned down because it was Corporation property. A good deal of the property was in hand. Sir James Scarlett. — I say so still, that it was burned down because it was Corporation property, and that it was burned down amidst the cheers of the mob. [Adjourned to Wednesday morning, at ten o’clock.] 313 SIXTH DAY.— Wednesday, 31st October, 183‘i. The Jury were called over and were all present. Mr. HENRY DANIEL sworn.— Examined by Sir James Scarlett. I believe you are a surgeon at Bristol ? I am. You are not a member of tbe Corporation, are you ? No, I am not. Do you remember being at the Council- house on the Sunday evening ? I do. During the time of these unfortunate riots ? Yes. About what time in the evening were you there? I should think it was between six and seven o’clock. What had led you there at that time ? I was led there with a desire to see whether I could be of any service ; from that feeling, and excited curiosity which every person felt naturally under those circumstances. Did you find many people there? No. Did you find any of the Magistrates there ? Mr. Alderman Savage met me at tie door. Did you learn there any circumstances about a party having gone to the Bishop’s Palace ? Mr. Alderman Savage told me that the Mayor, with several other Magistrates, were gone down to the Bishop’s Palace, to see whether they could be of any service. Did you proceed to the Palace ? He asked me to accompany him to the Palace. Did you do so? Yes; I proceeded with him towards the Palace. Were any gentlemen with you besides? Mr. Granger was with me, and Mr. Fedden. You went after the Mayor’s party were gone ? Yes. Did you overtake them ? No. Did you proceed towards the Palace ? Yes, directly towards the Palace. In what state did you find things when you got to the Palace ? I got as far as the archway of the Lower Green leading to the Palace. What prevented your going further ? Because I found a very large mob, and the soldiers were beginning to move away from the Palace to the archway. To come out? Yes ; to come out to meet us. When you say a large mob, perhaps you could not, at that time of nio-ht, form any guess of the number ; but were they considerable ? It was a very narrow space, and the larger part of the mob were not at that time in the archway ; but still it was sufficient to choke it, — to stop up the archway. Were the troops coming out meeting the mob ? Coming from the Palace to the archway, in a directly opposite direction to that. I should have gone, if I had continued my route to the Palace ; the troops were forcing the mob from tbe Palace gate at the moment. Did you see the troops go off? I did. What occurred immediately on the troops going off? The troops took a direction by the Cathedral, and then a very large reinforcement of the mob came from the other side of the Green at right angles with it, and went directly to the Bishop’s Palace. Alderman Savage was with you, you say, at the time? Alderman Savage left me just at the moment that I came up to the archway. What became of you between those two parties? 1 then went to the Pay-office, where I knew the Mayor and some Magistrates were assembled . Is that what you call Colonel Brereton’s Recruiting-office? Yes- the Recruiting-office . What we understand is close by ? Yes, it is close by. 314 Did you find any of the Magistrates there? I found the Mayor there, Mr. Alderman George, Mr. Alderman Savage, Mr. Alderman Hilhouse, the Town-Clerk, Mr. Burges, Mr. Brice, and Mr. Sheriff Bengough. Did you mention what had happened, or was it known what had happened, of the troops going off? I mentioned it ; but, I believe, it was known also. I mentioned that the troops were withdrawing, and, in my judgment, most shamefully, from the protection of the Bishop’s Palace. Have the goodness to attend to this question ; — on the troops withdraw- ing, in your judgment do you conceive the mob could have been resisted without troops ? It was utterly impossible. Were they numerous ? Very. Could you judge from the shouts thal you heard whether they extended someway? I should say, that when the two portions of the mob were combined they formed many thousands. Upon this intelligence being known at the office where the Magistrates were, what became of the party there ? I suggested, I believe, in common with several others, that the situation we were in was one of extreme peril, because there was no possibility of our defending ourselves. Did you propose anything to be done ? I urged the propriety of our immediately quitting that confined situation, and taking our chance going out into the mob. Dispersing ? At once opening the gates and going forth. In consequence of that, did the party issue forth? We did; [threw open one leaf of the double gate, and we all, immediately, in a body, left the ground of the office, — the court yard. By the double gate do you mean to the court of the office? Yes; I opened one leaf of it, and we all went out together ; every body left it J Which course did you take ? I first of all went with the stream of the mob towards the Drawbridge, as far as Trinity-street, the top of Trinity- street. W ere the mob going on rapidly ? They were going at a great pace, and throwing missiles, sticks, and other things, which 1 found very disagreeable. After having gone on with the stream of them for some distance, did you contrive to leave them? Yes, I made an angular movement, to get out of it. Where were you brought out ? I was called to by the Mayor ; just as I had got to the edge of the concourse of people, Mr. Pinney called me, and asked me to render him any assistance that I could You heard his voice, and he asked you to render him any assistance you could? I did, — he called me by name. Did you advance to him? I did, — I advanced. Was that upon College-green? Yes, it was a few yards above the turning towards Trinity-street that I got out of the edge of the mob, and then I met Mr. Pinney, and took him by the arm, and led him into the centre of the green. Of course you can only answer to what happened to ) T ourself, but did vou observe whether he seemed exhausted ? When I got into the centre of the green, I said, “We can wait a little while here, — we are here free from disturbance, and you can reflect what you can do, or what can be done as soon as I got to the centre of the green he appealed to me in this way; “ Daniel, I have done all that 1 can, — i3 there any thing earthly you can suggest ?” In the position which you both were then in, was it an advance towards the Council-house? No, it was about on a straight line from where I got him up, neither advancing nor retreating, but in the centre of College-green. There was no road there ? There was a footpath, but it was free from the crowd of people. 315 What was your reply to that? I told him that, from the completely deranged state of all our defensive powers, I thought it was his imperative duty to put himself into a situation to preserve his own life. Did you propose to take him any where ? I did. Where was that? I offered to take him to my own house, at Clifton. What was his answer 1 He acceded to it, and we were proceeding towards Clifton, when somewhere about the bottom of Park-street Mr. Pinney said to me, “ Why, Daniel, your house is out of the city, and if it is possible for me find any place of safety within the city, I should most earnestly desire to stay there, that I might be at hand in case it should be necessary for me to do any thing, or to take any necessary measures.” Mr. Justice Littledale. — That he might be at hand for what 1 If he was wanted, for purposes of any description. Sir James Scarlett. — In consequence of that where did you take him? It immediately crossed my mind that my partner, Mr. Granger, lived within a few doors of where we were then standing, and immediately took him there. Sir James Scarlett. — I beg pardon of your Lordships and the jury for the want of recollection in my opening ; I believe I stated that he went first to Mr. Lax’s, and then to Mr. Granger’s ; it was an involuntary mistake of mine. (To the Witness.) You took him to Mr. Granger’s, your partner’s 1 I did. What occurred when you introduced him to Mr. Granger? We had not been there many minutes ; Mr. Pinney was extremely fatigued I asked you the question whether he was exhausted and fatigued ? He was so, and I asked Mr. Granger to give him a biscuit and a glass of wine, but I believe even before it was brought Mr. Pinney said to me, “ I am very anxious that it should be known 'where I am ; do pray send a message to Colonel Brereton and to Mr. Brice, and Mr. Burges, and Mr. Sergeant Ludlow.” Was a messenger procured ? A gentleman had.joined us, in the course of our walking from the Green to Park-street, a total stranger to me, a person I had never seen before, nor have I ever seen him since, and I asked this gentleman if he would undertake to go with this message, which he did. Mr. Justice Littledale. — To send to whom 1 To Colonel Brereton, Messrs. Burges and Brice, at the Council-house, and Mr. Serjeant Ludlow. Sir James Scarlett. — After he stated his desire that those persons should be informed where he was, I think you say, that a gentleman, who was a stranger, who had accompanied you, undertook to go 1 Yes. He was requested by you to take that message immediately, and he agreed to do it? Yes, he did. How long did the Mayor remain at Mr. Granger’s? I really cannot exactly say ; I should say an hour, or an hour and a quarter. W r hat was the cause of his leaving it ? Mr. Granger called me out of the room, and told me that he was under so much alarm for the safety of his wife and family, that he could not permit the Mayor to remain any longer in his house. Did he state w r hat was the cause of his alarm 1 He was afraid, from its being known to the populace that the Mayor was there, that his house might be attacked, and that his property and the safety of his family might be endangered. This was not in the Mayor’s presence — he called you out ? He called me out. Did you express any unwillingness to communicate this ? I did j I was reluctant. What did Mr. Granger say, if you would not undertake it ? He said, that if I did not, he should be under the necessity of doing it himself, — of telling the Mayor that he must quit the place. 316 In consequence of this, did you state it to the Mayor? Not in those direct terms ; 1 did it in as delicate a way as I could, that it was necessary for us to remove ; I did not like to say point blank that w r e were turned out of the house. Mr. Granger was your partner too ? He was. Mrs. Granger was there ? She was up-stairs. When you went out into the street, did you know 'where to go? I sug- gested that we would go across to Mr. Sheriff Lax’s. Did you go across ? We did. W hat occurred at Mr. Sheriff Lax’s ? — have the goodness to state that without my asking you particularly ? Mr. Sheriff Lax’s servant opened the door ; I asked if Mr. Lax was at home — he told me no, he was not ; I said that I was. desirous of bringing the Mayor in — that the Mayor was at the door, and I wanted to bring him in there. His reply was, that Mr. and Mrs. Lax, and the female servants, had all left the house, and that every thing valuable that could be moved, had been removed ; that he, with another man who was standing by, were left in charge of the house; that, if the mob assailed it, he was to throw the coping-stones over, to endeavour to intimidate them, and if that did not succeed, he was to escape over the roof, and leave the house to its fate. He stated that as his instructions ? Yes, as his instructions. What further passed ? — any thing further with that man ? Not a word. Did you consider that as a repulse ? Of course — I took the Mayor by the arm, and led him away. When you led the Mayor away, from the conversation you have men- tioned, had you the least idea, or was one word said by either of you where the Mayor was to go ? Not one word — for in my own mind I meant to take the Mayor to my own house. In your mind, you had resolved to take him to your own house ? I had. Did one word pass in the presence of that man, about your going to Mr. Fripp’s 1 Impossible ! I had no more idea of going to Mr. Fripp’s, when I left Mr. Lax’s door, than I have of going to Mr. Fripp’s this morning. When the Mayor and you left the door, how far had you got before any thing occurred ? Nearly to the top of Park-street. That leads to Berkeley-square, I believe ? That leads to Berkeley - square. Was any thing suggested by the Mayor as you were nearly at the top of Park-street ? The Mayor said to me, when we were near the top of Park-street, “ I wonder if Mr. Alderman Fripp is at his brother Daniel’s, in Berkeley-square — do you know them ?” I said, “ Very intimately, and that I would go and find out.” Did the Mayor state whether he had any knowledge himself of Mr. Daniel Fripp? No ; nothing further passed than the words I have mentioned. Did he accompany you to the house ? He did. You went in ? No, I rang the bell, and asked if Mr. Alderman Fripp was there ; — his brother told me he was, and I requested he would come down, for the Mayor wanted to see him. That was before you introduced the Mayor into the house ? Before the Mayor w r as introduced into the house. Did Mr. Alderman Fripp come down ? I do not recollect. I believe Mr. Daniel Fripp alone, came down — I did not go further than the passage ; — as soon as I had introduced the Mayor in the passage, I left ; I am positive Mr. Daniel Fripp was present, but whether Mr. Alderman Fripp came down before 1 left the passage, I cannot be positive. Did you then proceed to your own house ? I went home to Clifton. Did you see the Mayor the next morning ? I did. 317 At what hour ? I should think between ten and eleven. At the Council-house ? Yes. Were you there any time with him ? Not a great many minutes. I beg to ask, although, when you found the INI ay or in the state you des- cribe, he appeared much fatigued, did you, either that night, or the following morning, observe in him any want of personal courage and cool- ness ? My reply to that would be this — that looking at the extreme personal fatigue which he must have undergone during those days, and looking at the overwhelming circumstances that surrounded him, I think he shewed as much or more presence of mind than would fall to the lot ofmanv men. Had you been in Bristol during the Sunday btfore the time you went to the Council-house ? Yes, I was, about eleven o’clock, or between eleven and twelve for a very short time. Were you at the Council-house ? No ; I was at the Hospital the greater part of the morning, in consequence of the wounded who came in on the Sunday morning. You are a Surgeon in the Bristol Infirmary ? I am. You were in attendance that morning 1 We were all in attendance that rooming, to attend upon those who had come in, and to wait in case of any others coming in. Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. You went to the Council-house between six and seven, I think you say 1 Yes. And you found that the Mayor had gone to the Bishop’s Palace, — was that so ? Yes. Did you then go to the Palace yourself? I went directly with Alderman Savage towards the Palace. You were deterred from going to it by some occurrence of the mob ? Yes. The troops were coming out at that time 1 They were. I think I understood you to say you thought you would go to the office to see the Mayor there? I went to join the Mayor and other Magistrates because I was informed that there they were assembled. Where? At the Recruiting-office. Where did you receive that information ? - I think Mr. Savage told me that they were gone into the office. That they were at the office at the same time the soldiers were at the Bishop’s Palace ? The Mayor was at the office while the soldiers were round protecting the Bishop’s Palace. Were you a second time at the office? No, that was the only time I was there. Then I presume that must have been later than you suppose ? I do not think it was a great deal later by the time we got dow r n there ; it may have been a little after seven when we got to the office ; I think it is not possible under the circumstances to be correct to the hour. You went from the Council-house to the office, did you? I did. You and Mr. Savage? Yes. And how many more ? There was Mr. Grainger and Mr. Fedden. I understood from Mr. Savage that the party who had gone with the Mayor were still more numerous, but they had gone another route by Broad-street. Are there different routes? Yes, there are. Did you meet with any obstruction in getting from the Council-house to the Drawbridge ? Not the slightest. Or in getting from the Drawbridge to the office? None, till we came to the archway where the mob were collected. How long, in your judgment, w r ere you at the office altogether? Not many minutes. 318 You have stated what happened at Mr. Grainger’s — when you went to Mr. Sheriff Lax’s did you know the servant who opened the door ? I did not immediately, because he was disguised in dress, — he was dressed , I think, as a sailor, — he was disguised 1 know. Do you remember some doubt being expressed whether he and the Mayor knew one another? There was nothing of the kind. Are you quite sure of that? Indeed I am. You did not know him at first ? I did not. W as there nothing said about who he was, or whether you knew him ? Not by the Mayor,' — he made himself known to me ; the Mayor never went within the threshold of the door, — he stood in the door-way. But the man did make himself known to you ? He did. Between him and you there was some question as to whether you knew him or not ? There was. Do you recollect his using the expression that he had often had the honor of waiting upon his Worship at the Mansion-house 1 I do not, — I think he made use of some expression about having waited upon me at the Monta- gue, but that related to myself, not to the Mayor. You do not recollect very accurately ? There was something of that kind. You are not certain about that? Yes, I am certain he referred to hav- ing waited upon me at the Montague Tavern. The Mayor was in sight, I suppose, in the door-way? Yes. Did not the Sheriff’s servant say, he had had the honor of waiting upon his W orship? No, not in my hearing. Are you quite sure? Quite. Was there anything to call your attention to a circumstance so trivial ? I think I should have recollected that. When was your attention called to this ? I do not think it has been called to it at all till now. Till within these few days, I presume ? Yes. Do you mean to say that you can swear to the fact, that having referred to having waited upon you at the Montague, he did not refer to his having had the honor of waiting upon the Mayor ? I swear that, to the best of my belief, he did not refer directly or indirectly to his having waited upon the Mayor. W ill you swear that that could not have passed, and you have forgotten it ? I swear, that if it had passed, I could not have forgotten it. That is a speculation ? I am certain I could not have forgotten it. Mr. Justice Taunton. — He swears it. Mr. Attorney-General. — It is a speculation however. What was there to make you remember it from that time to this ? This simple fact, that the Mayor was outside the door, — no one question was referred to him or about him by the servant. That is the very question, whether it was or not? I say positively not. I ask why you are able to swear to the fact so positively ? Because the few sentences that passed were so very short that I could not forget them ; it did not amount to a minute or a minute and a half at the outside. Mr. Justice Littledale. — You think you heard them all ? I say posi- tively that I can remember every word that passed. Mr. Attorney-General. — Of course then he said nothing about having been at the Mansion-house the night before or that morning, or assisting the Mayor to escape ? Not that I heard, — I heard nothing of the kind. You swear that nothing of the kind passed? Nothing of the kind, certainly. The Mayor had mentioned his wish to have it known to the Town Clerk, and Mr. Brice and Burges, where he was ? Sir James Scarlett. — And Colonel Brereton. 319 Mr. Attorney-General. — I do not speak of Colonel Brereton, but of Mr. Brice, Mr. Burges, and the Town Clerk ? Yes he did. Did he mention none of those Corporate gentlemen at Mr. Lax’s door ? None. Nor you mention them? Not that I am aware of. I have no recol- lection of having done so. There was nothing said about its being known where he was to the Corporate gentlemen, or any thing of that sort 1 I have not the slightest recollection ; I think I can say certainly not. There was nothing said by you, “ You understand what the Mayor means ?” 1 have no recollection of any thing of the kind. The man did not say, “ I understand you ; T will not betray his Wor- ship ?” I have no remembrance of any such words. You left the Mayor at Mr. Fripp’s, did you 1 I did. You thought the Mayor in danger, it seems 1 I did. "Were you not anxious to prevent its being known where he was by any, except those to w r hom the knowledge was necessary ? I was. Had you given a caution to any body on that subject? I did, to the messenger that went from Mr. Grainger’s. What was the caution you gave ? It was, that he should not say generally where the Mayor was, but only to the persons to whom he went. You thought that a very important caution to be given ? I did. When you dined at the Montague, Witness. — Will you allow me to add a sentence to that. When I directed the messenger to go to those several places and explain where the Mayor was, and did give him the caution that he was not to tell any body but the Authorities to whom he was sent, the Mayor turned round very sharply upon me, and said immediately, “ But it must be known where I am.” Mr. Attorney-General. — This wish to have it known to the Authorities where he was, led you to employ the messenger for that purpose? Yes, but I thought it my duty to give the last sentence as well as the first. When you dined at the Montague did the Mayor dine there ; I do not know that I ever dined with the Mayor there in my life. It was not a Corporation dinner? No ; I do not think I ever dined with the Corporation there — that was not the place where they dined. Y’ou knew that Townsend was the Sheriff 's servant. Yes. You supposed that he must know the Mayor? Yes. Was there any reason why you should give this charge to the person you sent, and not to him ? If we had remained there I should have done so. What was the reason you did not do it? Because we did not rest there, and it was not likely they should seek him there. Why was itnot likely they should seek him there ? Because he was not likely to be there. Nor at Mr. Grainger’s ? Yes; I was sending word that he was there. Where was the messenger to say that the Mayor was ? At Mr.Grainger’s. You determined to take the Mayor to your own house ? I did. I do not know whether you have happened ever to have seen Mr.Pinney on horseback ? Never in my life. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — Are you sure that you did not say to Townsend that he was not to tell where the Mayor was gone ? I am quite sure. That he was gone to Mr. Fripp’s in Berkeley-square, but that he was not to tell it ? I am quite sure ; I had no idea of going to Mr. Fripp’s when I left Mr. Lax’s door. What Townsend has sworn is, that Daniel said he might depend upon him ; that he was not to tell where the Mayor was gone; and that Daniel, in the presence of the Mayor, said that he was going to Mr. Fripp’s in Berkeley-square; that he, the witness, said in answer, he perfectly under- stood him, he would not betray his Worhship — did that pass ? Certainly not. 3*20 Mr. Justice Taunton. — There is a question which one of the gentlemen of the Jury wishes to ask : “Had you any occasion to doubt the faithful delivery of the message to the City Authorities? I had not the slightest means of ascertaining the fact, — he was an utter stranger to rne, I had never seen him before or since. Mr. Justice Taunton. — Is the archway you and other witnesses have spoken of, the archway between the College-green and the Lower College- green ? It is. Can you tell us with any degree of certainty how many yards or paces that archway is from the place where the military and the crowd were so closely pressed together at the Bishop’s Palace ? I should think not above thirty or forty yards — a very short distance. You had advanced at the time you were stopped, at the archway to within about forty yards of the Palace ? About forty yards from the entrance to the Palace, not the Palace itself. Mr. DANIEL FRIPP sworn. — Examined by Mr. Campbell. Do you live in the city of Bristol ? I do. At No. 30, Berkeley- Square 1 I do. You are notin business, — I believe you are living upon your fortune? I am. Are you a brother of Alderman Fripp ? I am. Are you a member of the Corporation yourself? I am not. Do you remember your brother coming to your house in the evening of Sunday, the 30th of October, 1831 ? I do. About what time did your brother come ? As nearly as I can recollect about nine o’clock. Is Mr. Daniel, the surgeon, a friend of yours ? He is. And an intimate friend ? He is. Do you recollect in the course of that night Mr. Daniel coming to your house ? I do. With Mr. Pinney, the then Mayor? Yes. About what time was it ? About eleven o’clock. Do you recollect what Mr. Daniel said when he introduced the Mayor ? He asked me if I would take the Mayor in, — that he did not like to take him to Clifton, — that, in fact, the Mayor would not leave the city, other- wise he would have taken him to his house at Clifton. Do you recollect afterwards the Town Clerk, Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, and Mr. Burgess coming to the house ? I do. Did they enquire for the Mayor? They did. They saw him ? They did. Dou you recollect that a letter was then written to Colonel Brereton by theMayor ? Partly by the Mayor. Mr. Justice Littledale. — At what time was it the Town Clerk came ? A little before twelve. And Mr. Burges ? Yes, I believe they came together. Mr. Campbell. — Do you recollect Mr. Brice coming ? Yes. Do you afterwards recollect Mr. Goldney and Mr. Wintour Harris coming ? Yes. That was at out three, I believe ? It was. Mr. Justice Littledale. — That letter was written after Mr. Serjeant Ludlow came in ? Yes it was. Mr. Campbell. — Mr. Goldney and Mr. Wintour Harris called about three ? They did. They delivered a message to you for the Mayor ? They did. Did you take that message to the Mayor ? I did. Where was he ? He was up in my drawing-room, one story high. 3*21 Did he sit up all night ? He did. You having delivered ths message, was there a letter written ! There was. Was that given to you to deliver to Mr. Goldney and Mr. Harris 1 It was. Did you deliver it to them 1 I did. Do you recollect what you said when you delivered the letter ? Yes. Mention it to my Lord and the Jury ! I requested that they would not say that the Mayor was at my house. Did you receive any instructions or authority from the Mayor to deliver that injunction ! None whatever. Did he know that you were to deliver it ? No, he did not. Did you tell him that you had delivered it 1 I did not ; on the contrary, when 1 received the letter from the Mayor, he was anxious that it should be put in that letter where he was, because it was notin the letter; the letter was being sealed when he pressed that — “ It is not stated in that letter where I am,” — and upon that I took the letter down, with the obser- vation — it did not signify, that it was stated so clearly in the letter at twelve o’clock. Mr. Justice Taunton. — The Mayor, when he was sealing the letter, said, “ I omitted to put in the date where I am V ’ Yes. Then an addition was made to the note ? No. Mr. Campbell. — The witness stated that it was unnecessary to make any addition to it, because it was so clearly stated in the letter written to Colonel Brereton at twelve o’clock. Mr. Justice Taunton. — I beg your pardon ; I lost the latter part in reading the former. Did you know, that in the letter written at twelve it was stated, “ The Mayor of Bristol begs leave to inform Colonel Brereton, that if he should have occasion for the orders of a Magistrate, either the Mayor or some other Magistrate will be found at Mr. Fripp’s, No. 30, Bcrkeley-square, the secon d house on the right hand, on turning into the square from Park- street!” I did ; because I gave the description of the house myself. Were you afraid that it should be generally known in Bristol where the Mayor was ! I was. On what ground ! My wife had been considerably alarmed by what she considered the noise of rioters coming up Park-street. Had your wife been much alarmed ! She had. Had that produced any illness ! She had been in fits. Besides that, had any money been brought to your house from the Post- Office ? There had, — sent by the Postmaster. For safe custody, at your house ! Yes. When had it been brought! I believe about half-past nine. On the Sunday evening? Yes. At what hour did the Mayor leave your house, on the Monday morning ! I believe it was between four and five o’clock. Did Alderman Goldney then call upon him ! Yes, he did. Alderman Goldney and the Mayor went away together ! They did. Had he sat up till that time ! He had. Without changing his dress! Without the least change or alteration of his dress. Is there a gentleman of the name of Ratcliffe, a neighbour of yours, in Berkeley-square ! There is. Was he aware, to your knowledge, that the Mayor was at your house that night? He was. Do you know whether, in consequence, he removed his family ? I can- not say. Mr. Justice Littledale. — Do you know how he became aware of his being at your house ? I do not ; but he knew of his being at my house before half-past eleven. Z 3 * 2*2 Mr. Attorney-General. — I do not see how that can be material. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — It may explain Mr. Fripp’s conduct; it c annot affect Mr. Ratcliffe. Mr. Attorney-General. — I do not know how it can explain Mr. Fripp’s conduct. Mr. Justice Littledale. — Only that it might be material, whether other persons were aware of his being in that house. Mr. Campbell. — Do you know whether Mr. Ratcliffe was Churchwarden at that time ? I believe he was not. Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. The Alderman came to your house about nine in the evening! He did. When was Mrs. Fripp so affected as you describe? I think it was about ten o’clock. Before the Mayor came? I believe it was. Did you mention that to the Mayor when he came ? I did not. Did you tell him that you wished it not to be known that he was there ? No, I did not. At what time did you go out yourself on the Monday morning ? I went out soon after day-light. That is about half-past six or near seven ! Thereabout. Had any body else called upon you in the night? Yes, many persons called. The Mayor had left the house before you went out? Yes, he had. How soon after that did you see Mr. Ratcliffe ? I cannot say at what time afterwards I saw him. Had you seen him in the course of the night? I had, several times— he came to my house to make enquiry what I intended to do with my Mr. JOHN FISHER sworn. — Examined by Mr. Follett. I believe you are a livery stable keeper — are you not? Yes I am. Were your stables engaged for the reception of the troops on the Satur- day ? They were. I believe the 14th were quartered there — were not they ? They were. Do you remember on the Sunday, the 14th coming to your stables before eleven o’clock ? They remained at my stables on the Saturday night and they were in and out in the course of the night with patroles. Do you remember their coming upon the Sunday morning, pursued by a mob ? Yes. That was about eleven, was it not ? About a quarter before eleven ; the remainder of the troops were in my yard ; some of the troops, Capt. Gage’s troop, were standing at the Bazaar. The troops that came up from College-green, followed by the mob, were not those quartered there during the night ? They were not ; they returned to my stables from College-green* Were you there when Colonel Brereton ordered those troops out of the town? I was. At the time that Colonel Brereton ordered those troops out of the town, were they, in your judgment, fit for seryice, or tired and worn out? Quite fit for service ; for the remainder of the troop had been in my yard the whole of the night. Mr. Attorney-General. — I must interpose, for I do not see how this could affect the Mayor; it might affect Colonel Brereton, but I do not see that it has any thing to do with the present case; that occurs to me at the moment. family 3 ‘23 Mr. Follett.— I only wish to know- whether the troops were in a fit state when they left the town? I think they were quite fit for any duty that they had to perforin, both horses and men. All the horses that were standing at your stable before the private horses, had been removed to make room for the troops ? They were, by Alderm n Daniel and Mr. Sheriff Hare. Did you, in the course of the Sunday evening, make any preparations to receive the Dodington troop of Yeomanry in your stables ? I did. Had you, before that, received orders from Mr. Alderman Camplin to take in any troop of Yeomanry that might arrive? I had. At what time in the day did you receive those orders from Alderman Camplin ? I think about half-past eleven o’clock, after the 14th had left. I believe you yourself saw the Dodington troop of Yeomanry in the street ? I did uot know' it was the Dodington troop ; I heard there were soldiers come into the town ; I went on to the Green, and saw them formed in front of the Deanery. As soon as you saw the troop there, did you come back to your stables, and make preparations for them ? I went back to my stables ; — the man was in the counting-house, — I ordered him to put the lights along the stables. Did you prepare for the reception of the troops'? I went to the gate and heard the troops coming up the street. Were your stables ready for them 1 They were putting lights for them. While your men were lighting the stables for them, did Col. Brereton come up and see them ? He came up to me. Did he speak to you, and ask you whether the stables were ready for the troop ? He asked me if I had room for eighty horses. What answer did you make to that? I told him I had room for eighty horses to stand double ; but not room for eighty horses to stand in different stalls. I believe the 14th had stood double, had they not? They had. Did the Colonel say any thing upon that ? I turned into the yard and got a few sconces. You began to light up the stables ? The yard, — our gas was turned off that night. And the Colonel went out ? The Colonel went out to the head of the troop. The troop were outside ? Yes. At that time were your stables ready for the reception of the troops if they had come in ? Quite ready. Did they come into your yard? I went up the gateway and I left the Colonel. Did you tell the Colonel you were ready? I told the Colonel I was quite ready. Did the troop come in ? They did not. Did you see them march off? The Colonel turned to me Answer the question, — did you see the troop go ? Not then. They did not come in at all ? They did not come in at all. Mr. WILLIAM HARMAR sworn. — Examined by Sir J. Scarlett. I believe you are an attorney ? I am. Do you reside at Bristol ? I do. Are you a Member of the Corporation ? I am not. Is your house near Queen-square? No, it is some considerable distance from Queen-square. Did you happen to come into Qeeen-square, on the Saturday, the 29th of October ? Yes, I did. Were you in the Square at the time the 3rd dragoon guards were brought in by Colonel Brereton? I was. 324 Sir James Scarlett. — I will not go through all the history we hare heard before, but only particular facts. In what part of the Square were you? On the inside of the rails, nearly opposite to the Mansion-house. How many people do yo.t think might be in the Square, at that time? I am not a very good judge of numbers, but I should say several thousands before the soldiers came in ; they had dispersed, in some measure, on the sight of the soldiers. On the soldiers coming in, did you hear any shouts, or cheers ? I did so. Of what description 1 “The King and Reform,” “God save the King,” and terms of that sort. Was that much repeated ? Yes, frequently, by the soldiers and the mul- titude ; the soldiers joined in it. Did you, in the course of the evening, go to the Mansion-house to assist the constables ? I was backwards and forwards in the Mansion-house, and in the Square, the whole of the Saturday night, till eleven or twelve o’clock. My question was, did you go to give assistance ? I did. W ere the constables able to make head against the mob ? They were not, for want of organization. After the military came, the mob were more tranquil, were they not ? They were, for some time. I will not go through the details of the night, — we have had them suffi- ciently, — but the next morning did you see again the 3rd dragoon guards, and Colonel Brereton amongst them ? I did . When did you first see him? I saw him ride up at the Mansion-house, I think about nine o’clock, as well as I can recollect ; but I have a very indistinct recollection of the time ; I was up for three nights, and was very much excited ; I had a sister living in the Square, for whose property I was very much interested ; of course I was much excited during the whole time. Had you observed the attack made upon the Mansion-house? Yes, I had so. Before Colonel Brereton came with the troops ? Yes. Had the mob got possession of it ? I was driven into the house by the mob, and when I got into the house, the persons who had been in it were endeavouring to make their escape. Did you get out at the back? No; I saw the Mayor go up the stairs, with Major Mackworth. You saw the Mayor escape, did you? I did. W as Major Mackworth with him ? Yes, and Mr. Gibbons was with him. Which way did they escape ? They got through the window at the back or side of the house, at one end of the staircase, and on to some leads. You saw them do that? Yes. Did you see which way they went, after that? No. Were any women with them ? Notone. Did you think, at that moment, it was necessary to escape? I did. Which way did you escape ? I got down the stairs , I went back again into the hall, and mixed myself with the mob. The dragoons at that time were withdrawn, were they not? They were, I think there were two or three parading about, but I am not quite sure. After that Colonel Brereton came? He did. Did you see Mr. Hilhouse or the Mayor come with him ? I do not recollect that I did. In the course of that morning did you hear any address from Colonel Brereton to the mob ? I did so. What was it? The mob were shouting “ The King and Reform,” and one man shook him by the hand, one of the mob, and he said, “ I am for reform, my boys, as well as you ;” but as to any address in particular, I did not hear any. Did you hear him say any tiling about the 14th ? There was a complaint made against the 14th, in very disgusting language. 325 Mention the language ? “ Murder the bloody Blues,” or some expression of that kind, expressing their disgust and their dislike to the 14th dragoons, and he said, “ I will send them out of the town.” Did they cheer him then ? They did so. Did you see him again after he had sent them out of the town ? Yes, he had sent them out of the town — at least after they were gone, indeed ; I heard him say afterwards that he had sent them out of the town. After the first time, when he said he had sent them out, did yon hear him address the mob upon the subject ? The soldiers were passing as I was going from the Guildhall — I do not allude to the 3rd dragoons now, but the 14th dragoons ; they passed through as I passed from the Guild- hall — the mob were hooting them most noisily, and abusing them with all the words they could use of the lowest order, and pelting them with stones. My question was, whether you heard Colonel Brereton say any thing to the mob after they were sent out of the town ? I heard him tell the people he had sent the 14th dragoons out of the town. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — At what time of the day was that ? It was towards twelve o’clock, my Lord — it may have been an hour earlier, or an hour later. Sir James Scarlett. — Upon this communication of Colonel Brereton, did they appear to take fresh courage ? They did so — they cheered him, and shook hands -with him, and said he was a good fellow, and all that sort of thing. Did you see any drinking ? I saw the soldiers drinking with the mob frequently ? Mr. Justice J. Parke.— Which soldiers ? The 3rd dragoons ; I saw a bottle thrown at one of the 14th dragoons, a quart bottle, which struck him on the back part of his head ; it was thrown by a single in- dividual in advance of the mob ; and the soldier, when he recoved himself a little, presented his pistol at the man, and Colonel Brereton struck his hand up to prevent his firing his pistol. Was the multitude as great on the Sunday, in the Square, as it had been on the Saturday night? At times it was, I think ; indeed, more so on Sunday night. I presume many of the persons you describe as comprising part of the several thousands, appeared to be spectators 1 They did so. Did you see whether any of these same persons acted as constables on the Monday ? On the Monday, I saw many who composed the mob, and who composed the violent part of it, acting as constables. You are sure about that 1 I am positive, so far as it is possible to re- cognize faces during such a scene. Were they distinguished from any others 1 They had their knives in their hands, on Monday morning — half-sword, half-knife, — some of those I had seen on the Sunday night very active in throwing stones, and shouting, and some of the most noisy ; as they passed me on the Monday morning, they shook their knives at me in the most diabolical way ; — I assisted in taking some of the men. It was whilst they were playing the mob, they shook their knives at you? No, whilst they were playing special constables. Did you know who was their leader ? I did not. Mr. Justice Littledale. — You say they shook their knives at you ? Yes, in a ferocious way ; I wa3 at the head of the constables from Christ- church parish, at the time. Sir James Scarlett. — Were the other constables armed with half- knives ? I saw none but those. Describe the kind of knife they had got ? They had a sort of knife that approached nearer to the character of a sword, something between the two ; it was in the blade, I should think, eighteen inches long, with a handle to it. 1 wish to bring you to another particular fact— were you in College- green on the evening when the Bishop’s Palace was attacked ? I was. You went there? Yes, I did. Did you make any efforts to assist in saving the Bishop’s Palace ? I did, and with three or four others I effected it at the first. Were you one of the party that got into the Palace ? Myself and Mr. Lowe, and one other gentleman, were the three first who got into the Palace — we were in advance of the special constables considerably. Of the body that came with Alderman Camplin? Yes; I had met with Alderman Camplin in my way to the Palace, and he had told me that he thought I might be of service if I would go down there. You hastened before the body ? I hastened with two or three friends before the main body that told me he was going to get a body of tho special constables from the Council-house, to get assistance, — I do not know that he said special constables. Did you secure any property from any body ? I did, — I attempted to do so, and when I did so, Colonel Brereton, I think, or at all events the person in command of the troops, said to me “ put up that sword.” You had a sword in your hand? Yes, I had ; lie said “put up that sword, — if you do not you shall be cut down,” or “ I will cut you down.” Did you say anything ? I forget — I made some reply — I was exas- perated upon it and said, “ he be damned,” or “ cut me down?” or some- thing of that kind. Perhaps he took you for one of the mob ? I do not think he did, for the mob had been making their escape ; I bad expressed myself very angrily to him for their making way for their going out through their horses ; as the soldiers advanced they went out through the soldiers’ horses with plun- der in their hands. Did you lay hold of any of the plunderers ? I did so, of one man ; I cut at him with my sabre ; I got within reach of him, and was about to lay hold of him when another soldier What had that man in his hand ? He had a bundle and some meat he was taking out of the Palace ; I saw him come from the door of the Palace. You got hold of him ? I did. What happened to you then? I struck him first of all with my sword, and then got hold of him, and a soldier said, “ You have been already told to put up that weapon, — I desire you to put it up immediately, or I will cut you down.” What became of the man ? Having in the meantime seen a soldier cut the Bishop’s butler in the face, I thought I had better let the man go. Describe the circumstance of your seeing the Bishop’s butler cut in the face ? The Bishop’s butler was struggling with a man who had come from the Palace with something which he desired him to give up — he said, “ give me that,” and then got the man on the ground eventually. One of the soldiers said, “ Loose that man, loose him j” he refused to do so. Did he say anything? He continued to struggle with the man and the man with him, and he said that he would not loose him, that he was placed there by his master the Bishop, and that he would exert himself as long as he had life in the protection of his master’s property, or to secure the villains who had set fire to it ; for it was then on fire. When the butler said that, what occurred ? When he said that, the soldier cut at him with his sabre and cut him across the nose, the butler was lying upon the ground and the sword could scarcely reach him, or I think it would have taken his head off if he had been nearer to him, the blow seemed to go with that force. Then the prisoner got loose ? The prisoner got loose. On seeing that, you did not secure your prisoner ? I did not. Were these the only instances that you witnessed of the conduct of the troops towards the persons who were endeavouring to save the Palace? 327 The only part of their conduct which I saw against the mob was of 1 man who endeavoured to break into Dr. Hodges’s house in the same yard as the Palace, and a soldier rode to him and told him he should not do that at any rate — the man persisted at the door for a minute or two and he flourished his sword over his head. Dr. Hodges is a Doctor of Music, is not he ? I believe he is. The Doctor of Music’s house was protected 1 It was. Did any party join you whilst you you were in the Palace ! I went there with young Mr. Lowe and the Bishop’s butler, and secured two men that we found down stairs, and just as we had secured them and put out part of the fire, a body of special constables came, — I suppose thirty or forty. Had you bound them! No, I was for dispatching them, but I was pre- vented by several persons who 4 were not so much excited as I was, and had not experienced so much as I had. But they were secured? Yes, they were eventually secured. Then thirty or forty special constables came up! Yes. The party you were expecting, from what you had heard Alderman Camplin say! I hardly knew whether they would come ; he said he was going to get them, but I hardly knew whether he would be able to find them. Your small party had put out the fire! We had succeeded in doing it in one place, and had secured these two men ; we were in the dark with these men, and did not know how many others might be there. Do you recollect Alderman Camplin bringing lights? I do recollect it perfectly. What passed afterwards 7 — did the party go about the Palace! The party went round the Palace ; the fires were completely extinguished, and the Palace was quiet for some time, when one of the special constables came in and said, — “ The military have left us — the soldiers are gone.” What happened there ? A great deal of alarm was expressed by the gentlemen present that they would be sacrificed by the mob, and that they were entrapped by the soldiers ; some said that the soldiers had deserted them before. Did they rush down stairs ! They rushed down stairs, and I assisted in forming them in forces in the yard ; — it was recommended that they should go out in a body and disperse the mob ; it was proposed by several that possession should be kept by the constables ; others expressed their feeling that they should not be able to succeed against the mob, and it was eventually determined that we should go in a body, and I assisted in form- ing them in a body four abreast. Was it agreed you should make a shout? To make a rush, and go out four abreast, Were you ahead of them 1 I think I was very near the head. Did you rush out ! Of the number there were only about eight or nine that did not rush out. I see one of the gentlemen present who did rush out, and there were several others. What did you encounter when you rushed out ! Tbe mob pelted us stones. Did you find a mob coming? Yes, they were coming from the archway in the direction of the Palace. Did the mob appear to be considerably reinforced! They were very much so. There were very few persons when 1 first got to the Palace ; but when l came out the mob was very strong indeed. You had to force your way through them? We had so — they gave way to us as we approached nearer to them. I had still the sword in my hand, but it was concealed under my coat, and a stick, with which 1 assisted in getting myself through, but they opposed us in that quarter for some time. 328 Was there any scuffle ? There was a stand made in Trinity-street*, a little beyond the station of Colonel Brereton — a street running to the right, down to the water side. A stand was made by your party? Yes, we were pelted with stones. Mr. Frankly n received a blow in his mouth, which injured him very materially. The troops were in the mean time out of sigh ? The troops were gone. Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Wilde. Do you know the premises well of the Mansion-house — the back part of the premises ? Ido not know it well — I know the situation of it. Do you know the situation of Mr. Leman’s wall, as connected with the leads you have spoken of ? I never observed it but that once. Did you observe it then ? I did. Would it be necessary, in order to escape from those leads to Mr. Leman’s premises, to ascend the wall ? I did not get out of the window. Then you mean you had not an opportunity of seeing? I had not. I collect, from what you have said, you were a good deal in Queen- square on the Saturday afternoon, — was that so ? I was backwards and forwards. W e learn that when the military walked upon the mob, they dispersed in the surrounding streets and courts? Yes, that was so. Then when the military proceeded to another part of the Square, the mob they had so dispersed returned ? They did. Where were the constables when they returned, after the military had gone out from the Square ? I really do not know ; I think they were in the Mansion-house, and about the premises there. So it happened, I suppose, at each end of the Square, as the military ■walked them out of the Square they returned ! I heard the special con- stables say, that they had nothing to distinguish themselves from the mob, and that they did not know how soon they might be eut down. My question was, where they were ? They were in various places, — I believe most of them in the Mansion-house ; but from where I was I could not see. Where were you then ? I ran from the soldiers with the mob. At twelve o’clock on Sunday, when the military arrived and were cheered, as you say, by the mob, Colonel Brereton could see fully what was going on in the Square ? The soldiers were drinking, and it appeared tolerably quiet. How many persons on the Monday morning did you see with those knives ? I should suppose from sixty to eighty ; I am not at all competent to judge of the number, hut that is as well as I can recollect ; there might be only forty, or there might be one hundred. There were a considerable body ? Yes, there were some up with us who had knives who had not staves. Were those knives confined to one part of the special constables ? I only saw one body with them. Do you recollect who headed that party ? I do not. Can you form any judgment of what number of those persons having knives you had observed among the rioters on Saturday? There were several faces that appeared familiar to me. Were there as many as a dozen, or half a dozen, or twenty ? I should say from eight to eighteen. I believe after the riots were quelled, you assisted very much in the apprehension of different rioters ? I did so. Did you make any communication to the Mayor or the Magistrates on the Monday, as to the conduct of those persons whom you saw acting as special constables with the knives ? I spoke of it to several persons. 329 Did you make any communication of it to the Mayor ? I did not. Were any of those persons tried at the late Special Commission ? They were not. But they particularly attracted your attention by shewing their knives and cutting very ferociously at you ? They did. Where were they ? In Broad-street ; I was in front of the Council- house. These were instruments such as you had never seen before ? They were so. Knives, the blades of which were eighteen inches long ? Yes. That is what you say? Yes; as well as I can guess, they were from eighteen to twenty inches long. When you arrived at the Palace, what number of persons do you think, from the best judgment you could form in the hurry, what number of rioters did you find there upon your arrival ? I do not think there could be more than twenty. Were there any soldiers there at that time? I was standing at the corner of the Green, and the soldiers asked me their way to the Bishop’s Palace ; I saw several standing about under the archway, and we were so few that I did not like to proceed without the soldiers. Did you arrive about the same time with the soldiers ? Yes, within three or four minutes of the soldiers. How many soldiers were there ? I think about a dozen. The entrance to the Palace is from Little College-green, is it not? From Lower College-green. You enter into an archway, do you not? No, a gateway, not an arch- way; you pass down a passage, before you come to the gateway. In going from Lower College-green, you first pass down a passage? I will describe it : in going from College-green, you enter an archway ; you are then in Lower College-green, and there is an elbow ; you cannot see the Bishop’s Palace from that ; there is an elbow of about six or seven yards wide, and at the bottom of that avenue there are some gates. What length do you think that lane may be — eighteen or twenty yards ? I should judge myself it was about forty or fifty, perhaps thirty to fifty, yards. Then, when you pass those gates, you come to the Cloisters — an open square yard? Yes, an open square yard, with a house in the middle of it ; and then, on the right-hand corner, the Palace beyond that. That is the only entrance to the Palace, except the little entrance to the domestic offices ? I was never there before, and cannot say. W’hen you entered the Palace, how many did you find ? The butler, addressing himself to the soldiers, said. “ If you will come with me, gentle- men, there are not above three or four men in the house, and we can easily master them.” Was Colonel Brereton there then? He was. Did Colonel Brereton remain the whole time ? I wish to be understood, that I did not know Colonel Brereton till after that ; I asked who it was, and he was pointed out to me as Colonel Brereton, and I then recognized him to be the same I had seen there. You saw him at the court-martial ? Yes. Did you recognize him as the person you had seen upon that occasion ? Yes. Did you notice him well ? I noticed him as a person I had seen. Had he feathers in his hat ? I think he had, as far as I recollect. Did that person remain there during the time the soldiers pursued the conduct you have been describing ? He was there during that time ; he was applied to himself by the Bishop’s butler, and entreated to dismount his men, and come into the house. What answer did he give ? He said he would not dismount his men, or something of that kind ; he persisted in keeping the men on their horses. 330 By the Bishop’s butler applying to him, I presume he perceived he was an officer 1 lie lmd the command of the men ; 1 heard him speaking to them. On the man threatening to cut you down, and cutting at the Bishop's butler, did you apply to him 1 He was the very person who had threatened me. W ere you examined at the court-martial ? 1 was. Did you there give any account of this cutting down by the man, and the threatening to cut you 1 I believe 1 did, if I was asked to it; I w r as only examined on certain charges, and I believe I was examined on that point. You do not recollect whether you gave that in evidence ? I am not cer- tain ; but 1 gave in a statement to the Judge- Advocate of what I could prove ; and whether I w r as examined to that point, I am not quite sure. Where were the mob at the time you made the rush in the Cloisters 1 They were at the end of the avenue ; they had come a little way down the avenue. In that you describe as the passage leading to the Palace ? Yes. What became of you ? I got out, with eight or nine others. W ere you joined by others, or did you continue in your party ? I went back towards the Bishop’s Palace. What became of you then 1 I got surrounded by the mob. That separated you from your companions 1 It did so. Did you afterwards meet with those same persons again ? I did some of them, I think. Where was that ? I do not recollect where ; I have seen them since , frequently. You describe that you made a stand in Trinity -street 1 No ; I beg your pardon ; not that I made a stand, but that some of the constables did ; I did not go in that direction. Where is Trinity -street, — is it near the Draw-bridge ? No, it is close to the Cathedral. What number of constables w r ere there then ? I should think from eight to a dozen. Did you see any Magistrate with that party ? I did not. How long did that conflict last 1 I do not think it lasted above a minute. Who do you say brought the light into the Bishop’s Palace 1 I have some idea it was Alderman Camplin, but I am not positive. Can you undertake to say whether you saw him in the Palace at all ! As far as my recollection goes', to the best of my belief I did. Can you undertake to say with certainty, that you saw him in the Palace from the beginning to the end ? I cannot undertake to say to a certainty that I saw him there. Can you undertake to say that you saw him in the court-yard 1 I can undertake to say that I did not see him in the court-yard. Did you see where the light was procured ? I had one of the prisoners in my hand, and 1 did not see where the light came from. I understand that none of the rioters had broken in upon you in the house, but you heard a cry, a report, that they had increased their number, and that the soldiers were gone 1 I heard in the house that the soldiers were gone, and I heard that the mob w'as in great force at the gate. Your party, at that time, consisted, I think you said, of about a dozen ? When ? At the close, when you rushed out? No, considerably more than that, I should say. How many more, then 1 I should say from twenty to forty, more or less. What number of persons had gone with you, in the first instance ! In the first instance, I think there were not more than three, besides myself. I do not mean just at the moment of entering the house ? No others went with me. 331 The first party, if I may so call it, consisted of three ? Three, besides myself. What was the strength of the next party which arrived to your assistance ? I did not see them all at once ; 1 only saw them in detached bodies, 1 should say from four or five and twenty, or from that to thirty or forty. Did that comprize the body which were formed into fours, to fight their way out? Yes, part of them, and others were still in the Palace. Had any other persons swords, besides yourself? There were several with pistols, but I do not know that there was any sword ; I had a brace of pistols myself. Do vou know who those were who had pistols ? — had they joined you at the moment ? I did .iot know who they were 3 I had heard it said they had pistols, but they were afraid to use them. How long do you suppose you were there ? I should think about half an hour to an hour, but 1 cannot be certain to the time. Had you perfectly extinguished the fire before you left? We had so. Had the fire made much ravage in the Palace, up to that time ? It had not; the chief part where I assisted in putting the fire out was in a bed 3 several books were placed in a bed and ignited, and it was smouldering. How far do you think the mob extended, that you had to force your way through? — it began in the passage, as far as the archway, in College-green ? I could not see, there was a gass lamp that prevented my seeing further on. How far had you occasion to break through ? Perhaps I had to break down three or four ; they gave way as mobs do generally with a little per- severance. Did the mob extend as far as the archway ? We met several detached parties coming up hurraing, with their staves in their hands, legs of chairs, and things of that kind 3 we were pelted the whole way. There is another circumstance I would wish to mention, — Mr. Phillips, the sub- sacristan of the cathedral, laid hold of a man with an umbrella 3 a soldier threatened him, if he would not let him go. Mr. Justice Parke. — A gentleman of the jury wishes to know, whether with those you saw with knives, on the Monday morning, there were any members of the Political Union ? I do not know any member of the Political Union ; 1 proposed taking these men into custody 3 but it was objected that there was no gaol to put them into, nor any place of security to put them in. Another question a gentleman wishes to ask is, whether Mr. Herapath was there ? I did not notice him 3 1 have an indistinct recollection that he was there 3 but I did not notice him. Re-examined by Sir James Scarlett. Respecting Alderman Camplin you will not swear, but to the best of your recollection he brought a light into the Palace ? I cannot be positive • but to the best of my recollection he was there. It is possible you may be mistaken, but you believe you did see him there ? Yes, I saw Mr. Alderman Savage there, in the Palace 3 I think 1 saw Mr. Ludlow, but 1 am very indistinct in my recollection. To the best of your recollection you did see Alderman Camplin there bringing a light? Yes, but Phillips was the first man I saw. If I understand you rightly, a party you formed to force their way through the archway did not all force their way through ? I do not know which way they escaped. Do you happen to know whether there are not some back doors of the houses surrounding the Palace-yard, that open into the Palace-yard? Yes, L think there are 3 I know that there is a garden and a garden wall, and that garden wall is at the back of Trinity-street 3 it forms a part of Trinity- street. ^ 1 ask whether it is not possible, though you have no knowledge of that that some of those left behind escaped that way ? I thiuk they must. 332 Mr. RICHARD BOUCHER CALLENDER sworn.— Examined by Mr. Campbell. T shall examine you very shortly, — I believe you are an attorney at Bristol ? 1 am. On the morning of Sunday, the 30th of October, 1831, did you see Mr. Pinney, the Mayor I I did. About what o’clock ? About twenty minutes to half-past nine in the morning. Who was with him ? Mr. Alderman Abraham Hilhouse. Where were they 1 They were standing at Mr. Hole’s, the gunsmith’s, at St. Augustine’s Back. Is that a street in Bristol 1 It is a row of houses that runs facing the water, leading to the Drawbridge. What were they doing ? They were conversing with Mr. Hole, who is a gunsmith. I do not know whether you heard what passed ? I did not. Did they afterwards require any persons to go to the Guildhall 1 Several. In what manner did they do so ? Alderman Hilhouse came across the road, and stopped every person who -went past. Was the Mayor by 1 Yes, he was by, and from what I saw he requested Alderman Hilhouse to do so. In what terms did Alderman Hilhouse address those persons? He went up to them, and said, “ 1 press you, in the king’s name, to assist us to put down the riots.” Did he give any directions where they were to go to 1 He desired them to go to the Guildhall. You say that Mr. Alderman Hilhouse, as it appeared to you, by direction of the Mayor, said I press you in the King’s name to assist us in putting down the riots ? Yes, he did. Then he directed them to the Guildhall 1 Yes, he did. Was there a gentleman of the name of Mintorn with you 1 There was. Did you and Mr. Mintorn cross over to the place where the Mayor and Alderman Hilhouse were ? He went down the middle of the road in order to meet them — in order to hear what it was. Did they express a similar request to you, and your friend Mr. Mintorn 1 They requested both of us to go to the Guildhall. For the purpose of assisting in putting down the riot ? Yes. That request was made to every one who passed ? Yes, while I wsa there, it was. Did you hear any particular answer given by any person that refused ? From several. Did they assign any reason 1 They did, as nearly as I can recollect, they made use of these words, “ Why should we go and protect the Cor- poration’s property ? — let them protect their own property.” Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Wilde. How long did you continue in that street, St. Augustine’s Back ? Perhaps about from four to five minutes ; we waited a little time at the Drawbridge, to take notice of persons coming down. Did you know any of the persons that Mr. Hilhouse addressed ? I did not, — they were strangers to me, — they were very respectable looking- people. Were they persons passing down the street? Passing towards the Drawbridge, from College-green. About half-past nine was this ? About half-past nine, as near as possible. In what language do you say that Mr. Alderman Hilhouse addressed 333 you ? He came up to me and Mr. Mintorn, and said, “ I will thank you to go to the Guildhall to assist in putting down the riots — and I think he added that weapons would be furnished. But to others he used the language you have exppressed ? Yes, “ I press you.” A t what time did you arrive at the Council-house, or the Guildhall ? I did not go to the Guildhall. Bid you go to the Council-house ? I did not. No part of the day ? No part of the day ; I was proceeding towards the Guildhall, and I met one or two, and they told me it was of no use, — that the citizens would not turn out, and for that reason I declined going. ho were the persons you met, who made that communication to you ? It is impossible for me to call to mind, it is so far back ; I might possibly have recollected them at the time, if I had been asked. Was this while persons were proceeding to church, or before that time ? I was on my way to church. Did you remain in Bristol during that day ? During the time I was at church, we heard the firing ; myself, and one of the churchwardens, together with one or two others in the church, went out, and enquired what it was about ; they said the soldiers, at last, were doing their duty ; I think those were the words. The question I asked, was, whether you remained in Bristol during the Sunday ? No ; I do not live in Bristol, — I returned home. I understood you were an attorney, residing in Bristol ? My office is in Bristol. Did you remain in Bristol during that Sunday 1 I did not. Where is your residence ? The lower end of Clifton. Is that the end nearest Bristol ? No, the furthest end. That would be about a mile ? About a mile and a half. Were you in Bristol at any time on that Sunday, after church time 1 I was. More than once ? I was in Bristol from five o’clock till about half-past seven. You were absent from it from the time the church concluded, till five ? I was. Where you at Clifton ? I was. Mr. Mintorn, I think, was the name you mentioned ? — did you see him any more that day ? I did not. Re-examined by Mr. Campbell. How were those persons dressed that refused to go, stating that they would not defend the Corporation property 1 Very respectably. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — He has said that they were very respectable looking people. The Rev. JAMES BULWER sworn. — Examined by Mr. Follett. I believe you are a Clergyman ? I am. During the Bristol riots, were you residing in Clifton ? I was. Were you in Bristol during the Sunday of the riots ? I went down there after church, on Sunday. I believe you were in different parts of the town on that day, were you not ? I walked to the Mansion-house, and made enquiries respecting the transactions of the morning. Were you in other parts of the town during the morning ? — 1 do not want to know particularly where you were, but did you go to different parts of the city 1 I saw the mob at the Bridewell. 334 Were you at Lawford’s-gate ? That was in the evening ; I walked in the morning round from the Mansion-house to the Bridewell, and back to Clifton ; I saw a part of the 3d patroling. During the time you were in Bristol, had you any means of ascertaining the disposition of the inhabitants, whether there was any disposition to assist the Magistrates in suppressing the riots? In the morning the streets were very clear, — there were very few people moving about. Mr. Justice J. Parke. — That is no answer. Mr. Follett. — Had you any means of ascertaining, during the day, the disposition of the inhabitants, whether there was any disposition to assist the Magistrates in suppressing the riots ? At a subsequent period, I had. What judgment did you form as to the disposition of the inhabitants, whether they were disposed to assist in suppressing the riots, or to encou- rage them ? Anticipating a horrible night, I went out Will you answer the question ? — What judgment did you form of the disposition of the inhabitants ? So long as the outrages were confined to the public buildings, they approved of them ; when private property was attacked, this feeling was changed : I think some were anxious to save the property, but the mass of the people were still indifferent about it. You were going to state your means of forming that judgment ; it appears you had a conversation with the different persons about 1 I mingled with the crowd standing about the streets and on Brandon-hill, looking at the prison on fire. Mr. Justice Littledale. — About what time was that 1 . About half-past four or five o’clock. Mr. Follett. — What observation did you hear from those persons? I heard them say, that it served them right, meaning the Corporation, for bringing that arrogant villain, Sir Charles, down to insult the citizens of Bristol. That you heardon Brandon-hill? I did. What class of persons were they whom you heard make use of those ex- pressions? I think respectable, but I was a stranger; the gentlemen had silk umbrellas over their heads, and the females had silk cloaks and pelisses. There were respectable inhabitants 1 They were. Did you hear any expressions as to the conduct of the 14th? Yes, I heard opprobrious epithets applied to them ; I heard them called “ the bloody blues — murderous villains — and murderous dogs — for killing an innocent boy at the bottom of Park-street.” I believe also you mingled with the people at the Toll-Gate, when the prison was on fire? I did. What sort of observations did you hear from the whole, or from any one? I met two or three ; I conversed for two or three minutes with a mechanic, standing at the Toll-Bar, to ascertain the state of feeling of the people. What did you hear from him? He expressed approbation of what was going on, stating that were it not for the boroughmongers, the rascally lords, the pensioners, and so forth, there would be enough for all, but they took the bread out of the mouths of the poor, and then sent soldiers to shoot them. Was any thing said about the fires? He said the fires were very horrible ; I do not recollect any thing further. While you were talking with him, was the Toll-Gate on fire? It was assailed while I was talking to this individual, and destroyed. After the Toll-Gate was destroyed, did you hear a cry from the mob— - “ Lawford’s-Gate ?” I did, outside the gate. Did the mob take a direction towards Lawford’s Gate? They did. I believe you followed them? I walked on the pavement, while the mob walked along the centre of the street, holding up their bars in the faces of the people, and asking, “ Are you for Reform ?” Mr. Justice Littledale. — What had they? Iron bars and sticks. 335 Mr. Follett. — As they passed through the different streets, did yon observe the manner in which they were received by the different inhabi- tants ? A great number of respectable people were standing at their doors, and no opposition was made to their progress. When you say there was no opposition, did you hear any shouts of en- couragement? I did, subsequently. What was it you heard 1 I heard, “ Go it, my boys, — take a turn on of them.” Who were the persons you heard say that! — what sort of persons were they ? I heard that observation at the door of a shop that was open, whether by the proprietor or not I cannot say ; but a person standing at the door of a shop You went up and saw the prison destroyed! Yes, I did, with Lieut. M'Leroth. What regiment was he in ! The 38th. You went afterwards with Mr. M‘Leroth to the Council house ? We heard, at Lawford’s Gate, that the Bishop’s Palace was the next object, and we went to the Council-house ; the Magistrates were not there, but at the Military Office. At Colonel Brereton’s office! Yes, and we went on there. You learned at the Council-house, that the Magistrates were at Colonel Brereton’s! The side door was open, and the porter told us they were there. I do not want you to go through the whole of what you saw that day ; but were you at the Bishop’s Palace, or near it, when the mob attacked it! I was ; I went down with the Mayor. Was the first time you were at the Palace, when you went down with the Mayor 1 I was there twice — the first time it was not with the Mayor ; I was there before. You were there, I believe, when the first part of the mob came up there ! Yes, after having been with the Magistrates into the Military Office, I was. Did you see the gate thrown down ! I did ; it separated me from Lieut. M'Leroth. The mob then got into the Palace ! Yes. Upon that did you go towards the Council-house? I ran as fast as I could to the Council-house to the Magistrates. Did you meet the Mayor’s party coming out ! At the door of the house I met them coming out, and I went up with the Mayor and the Magistrates. Did you observe the attempts made by the Mayor and Mr. Serjeant Ludlow to get persons as they passed to join them ! Yes, we all called on t e persons we passed to join the Mayor’s party. W as that call obeyed ? It was not. I believe when you got into College-green you left the Mayor’s party and went forward ! I walked with the Mayor to opposite the Dean’s house ; I then left the Mayor and ran after the special constables and came up with them in the Cloister-court. Mr. Justice Park. — You do not propose going through this, I suppose! Mr. Follett. — No, my Lord, I do not. (To the Witness.) — I believe after that you returned to Clifton ? No, I did not. Did you not return to Clifton that night! Yes I did, afterwards. Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Wilde. Had you performed any duty that day ? I had officiated at Clifton church. What was the earliest hour at which you came into the city ! Half-past one. What was the first thing that attracted your attention in the city — where did you go first ! On the Drawbridge I saw a party of the 3d patrolling the opposite side of the river. 336 Where was the first group you mixed with? On Brandon -hill . In the evening 1 In the afternoon. What distance is Brandon-hill from Bristol ? It is half-way between Clifton and Bristol. W ere there a considerable number of persons there ? A great number, a great many groups ; it was raining hard. W ere there many groups, in this rain, of ladies with silk pelisses 1 There were. How many groups might you join ? I joined in conversation with four or five. At what other places did you join any group? In Prince’s-street, — at the bottom of Prince’s-street. About what hour was that ? About half an hour later, — I cannot speak precisely. You speak of the mob having gone from the Toll-gates to Lawford’s-gate, and the shouts of approbation ; I think you said that you observed one person standing at a shop door who addressed them in the language you have mentioned ; do you say that the shopkeepers cheered 1 I mean to say, that that shopkeeper cheered, — that individual. Do I understand you that the shopkeepers in any instance during which the mob passed, cheered? When the iron bars were held up in their faces, and the people asked whether they were for Reform, they all assented. Did they hold the bar up in your face ? They did. Did you lay hold of it ? I did. Did you retain it ? I did, — it was left in my possession. The mob allowed you to retain it ? It was before the first attack, between the Military Office and the gate, when the first part of the mob went up to the Palace. In what numbers were the people at the time you seized the bar ? There were a few boys only. W ere they boys that held up the bars in persons’ faces ? They were boys and grown-up people both. Of what number might the mob consist at the time they held up those bars in the faces of persons 1 The active part who carried the hammers and bars was but small. Was the surrounding multitude large ? It was, — the city had turned out as on the night of an illumination. I understand you that the groups dressed in the manner you have men- tioned, used the language you have described to the Blues? Yes, on Brandon-hill. The ladies and gentlemen with silk umbrellas and silk pelisses ? I had no other means of judging of their respectability but by their dress. Those were the persons who used the expressions about the bloody blues and so on ? Yes, they were. JOHN HOBBS sworn. — Examined by Sir James Scarlett. Are you one of the night constables for the wards of Bristol ? Yes. Of which ward? St. Michael’s ward, St. Augustine’s parish. Do you remember the Magistrates meeting at the Guildhall on the Sunday morning ? I do. Were you stationed at the Guildhall any part of that day ? I was, in the morning about half-past ten by Mr. Brice. Mr. Brice, the gentleman who sits by me ? Yes. What were your orders ? My orders were to stand by the great door at the Guildhall, and to direct every person who wanted to see the Magistrates to go in at the Guildhall Chambers door, which is the side entrance. Were you driven from your post at any time during the day ? I was. 337 About what o’clock was it 1 About twenty minutes past one. Had you been aware that notices were sent to all the parishes to assemble at the Guildhall? 1 cannot speak to that. According to the best of your recollection, how many people do you think, between half-past ten and half-past one, when you were driven away, might have come there to enquire, or that you gave directions to ? I should say from fifty to one hundred. What is the street that the Guildhall is in? Broad-street. Is Broad-street one of the ways which would lead from Queen-square towards the Bridewell ? Certainly. What drove you from your post about half-past one ? I should think there were from a hundred to a hundred and fifty rioters coming down Broad-street. Did they seem to know you ? I was immediately recognized by them . Had you any particular dress on ? I had not. W hat did they do to you ? They began throwing stones at me . What did you do ? I vras obliged to escape to another part of Broad- street, into one of the avenues. Was that an avenue on the opposite side to the Guildhall ? Yes. Then they passed by you ? They did. Had they any weapons in their hands ? The first of them was dressed in a smock frock — he had an iron rail, part of an iron bar, over his shoulder. Were there any hammers amongst them? I did not observe any ham- mers ; the rest were armed with pieces of shutters — I conceived pieces of wood, and staves. Did they go rapidly by ? They first made a bit of a stand, and a throw at the Guildhall- windows. Then they went on ? Yes, they went on through John-street. This you say was about half-past one ? Yes, about twenty minutes, or half-past one. When they had passed by, did you return to your post ? I did. How long did you remain there ? I should think till half-past three. Did you observe whether, at three o’clock, any more persons came to the Guildhall ? I saw several come there, sometimes by twos, and by threes, — not a great number. How many in the whole, do you think, came from three o’clock till half- past three ? Not so many as I saw in the morning. What made you go at half-past three ? I was completely fatigued by the usage I had received on Saturday. I have not asked you about that, for we have had enough of that you was completely exhausted ? I certainly was. Was there anybody there to relieve you at the time ? Not that I am aware of. You went away yourself ? I did. Did you go to bed ? I did not. But you went home ? I went home. Were you out that night, or in bed ? I was out. Do you remember any one of the Aldermen, the Justices, coming to you a little after three ? I should say, about a quarter before four, Alderman Camplin came to me. What did he come to you about ? He asked where the troop was. Did you go with him ? I did. Where did you go ? To Leigh’s Bazaar. Whom did the Alderman seek there ? He sought after an officer, I believe, belonging to the troop — he asked for one. Did he find one ? I believe he did — he spoke to one whom I understood to be Captain Warrington, A a 338 What did he say to Captain Warrington ? He said “ You must imme- diately go to Queen-square, or else the whole of the square will be burned down.” What did Captain Warrington say ? He said, “ The men were all tired, and the horses, — I cannot send you more than twenty-four.” What did Alderman Camplin say to that 1 I then saw the officer present a letter to Alderman Camplin. What remark did he make ? I heard Alderman Camplin say, “ a very proper one.” I do not know the contents of the letter. W as it said by either of them from whom the letter came ? I did not hear that. What was done then 1 We proceeded then to Unity-street. You and Alderman Camplin ? Yes, and several other people were in company. Did Captain Warrington go with you ? Yes, that officer went with us. What to do? I did not know their business at the time. But they did go to Unity-street ? They did. When they arrived at Unity-street, for whom did they enquire? For Colonel Brereton. Then you ascertained that you were going to Colonel Brereton’s lodgings, I suppose 1 Yes. What answer was given ? That he was not there ; two females from a window said, “ He is not here.” Did Alderman Camplin say any thing ? He then inquired if some other gentleman, whose name I forget, was there. What was the answer? They said, “ yes.” Did the Alderman go in ? Yes, he did. Did you see Colonel Brereton there at all ? I did not — I went down directly to my watch-house. How soon did the Alderman come again ? I should think about hallf past four. This had taken about three quarters of an hour ? Yes. What directions did he give you at half-past four, when he came ? He asked me to go to the Square with him ; I said I would go any where with him. Did he say for what reason you were to go to the square ? He said we must go to the Drawbridge to wait for the troop. Did you go ? I did. Did the troop come and join you ? They did. Who was at the head of it ? I believe Colonel Brereton was there. How many men ? I should think upwards of twenty. How long might you have waited at the Drawbridge before the troop came ? About twenty minutes — it was getting on for nearly five, I should think. What did the Alderman do when the troop came ? He joined the troop — he went on foot. Did they go to Queen-square ? They did. Did you go with them ? I went as far as the avenue leading to Mr. Claxton’s — the mob began to disperse, and to go in all directions at that place, and I was obliged to seek safety for myself. The troops began to act upon the mob ? They did. And you then left them ? I did . You left Alderman Camplin in the Square with them ? I did; I did not see them after I entered the corner of the Square, by Mr. Claxton’s. Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Wilde. Mr. Claxton’s is at the corner of one of the entrances to the Square ? Nearly. Which corner is that ? The corner towards the Grove, the lower part, — the western side. 339 Is that the side towards Princes-street ? It is to the right of Princes- street as you enter the lower avenue of the square. What is the length of that avenue into the Square 1 Not very long. Is it an open street? Yes. And you left it at the corner 1 Not quite at the corner. Do you mean before you got to the corner ? No, inside. Do you say the troops had begun to charge before you left ? They had begun to act. What do you mean ? They rode into the corner, — the mob began to dis- perse from that part, and I left. Then, by beginning to act, you mean that they proceeded to the Square? Yes. Did you see them do any thing more than that 1 I did not. Did you search for any other troop except the troop at Leigh or Fisher’s ? Certainly not. You did not search for Captain Shute’s troop? No. You said the mob posted down George-street from Queen-quare ? John-street. When you got to John-street, at the bottom there is a passage, and a flight of steps ? Yes. How many people can pass abreast down those steps, to get to the Bridewell? I should think five or six. There are two flights of steps, are there not ? There are. And when you got to the bottom of those steps, you passed through rather a narrow passage ? Yes, — not very narrow. How many persons could stand abreast in that passage ? I cannot say. Do you think as many as ten could stand abreast? I do not know. Cannot you form a judgment whether ten or twenty would stand abreast there? Perhaps ten. Then you have to cross a street, and then you enter another narrow passage ? You have. That leads to the Bridewell? Yes. W’hat number of constables had you assembled at the Guildhall, at any one time, during that morning? 1 did not go into the Guildhall. But you would see them arrive, I suppose ? They came sometimes one and sometimes more, and they enquired which way they were to get into the Guildhall, and 1 directed them, and I cannot say how many were col- lected at one time. You understand my question applies to the constables? Yes. Do you think as many as One or two hundred ? I cannot say, — the per- sons that enquired of me to go into the Guildhall were from 50 to 100. Do you mean that that is the total number of persons, including constables, and all others ? Yes, that enquired of me. Independently of the persons that enquired of you, were there many persons that passed up the Guildhall chambers, without making any enquiry 1 I cannot say that, because the Guildhall chambers are at some distance from me. Which door did you stand at? At the large door. And the Guildhall chambers are about three or four doors beyond ? Yes. Quite within sight ? Yes. Had the special constables any thing to distinguish them in their dress ? Not that I am aware of. Did any of them come with their staves? I did not see any. You might approach the Guildhall, either by coming down Broad- street, and passing you at the great door, or by coming up the other way, might you not? Certainly. Were you the only person stationed at the door? I was. A a 2 340 Mr. VALENTINE HELLICAR sworn. — Examined by Mr. Campbell. I believe you are a merchant residing at Bristol? I am. In Queen-square ? Yes. On which side of the Square ? The east side, — the left side. Your house was not burnt? It was not. Did you observe what was passing in Queen-square, upon the Sunday night we have been speaking of? I did. The whole night ? The whole night. In your judgment, from your observation, how many persons were there assembled, in the Square, on Sunday night ? I should imagine from eight to ten thousand. Did they continue in the Square during the whole night? During the whole night. W ere there shouts and cheers from the mob, from time to time, during the whole night ? There were. Did the cheers appear to you to be general ? I thought so. Not merely from those actually engaged in firing the houses, but general all over the Square ? All over the Square. Did you see a party of the 3d dragoons there, during the night ? I did, at various times. Did they ever join the cheers ? They did, — once particularly. Did any of them take off their helmets ? They did. What did they do with their helmets ? They cheered, and waved them in their hands. Was any thing said, at that time ? I was not near enough to hear what was said ; it happened whilst the Custom-house was in flames. From what you observed would it have been possible for the Magistrates, that night, to have put down the riot in Queen-square, without the co-oper- ation of the military ? Decidedly not, — it was impossible. Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Wilde. Were you at home upon the Saturday afternoon and evening, as well as the Sunday? I was. Did you attend a public meeting at Bristol, after those riots? I did. You said, that upon the Sunday you thought the military were necessary to put it down? I did. Have not you said, that in your judgment fifty good policemen would at any time have put down the Riots ? Decidedly not. W as that the case at any time ? Early on the Saturday probably it might have been done, but I am sure I never said fifty, but that a civil force might have done it. To how late on Sunday do you think a civil force could have done it? On Saturday. On any part of Sunday ? I think not, except probably very early in the morning, — before seven o’clock. Did you speak at the public meeting? No, I did not. Did you second any resolution ? I did second a resolution. Were those resolutions, which you seconded, condemnatory of the Magistrates and the military? Courting an enquiry, I believe, into the conduct of the Magistrates and the military. As you had had an opportunity of seeing Queen-square, on the Sunday, and think that the military were necessary, what was it that you doubted about the propriety of the Magistrates’ conduct ? I was impressed with the belief that was generally current, that the Magistrates had declined giving the military orders to fire ; I subsequently learnt that I was wrong upon that subject. 341 Then you thought the Magistrates blameable for not having given the orders to fire ? I was impressed with a belief that was current immediately after the riots. And you attended this meeting to procure enquiry 1 I did. Was that meeting numerously attended 1 I think it was. By respectable persons of all parties ? At the first meeting it was cer- tainly taken up by all parties ; at the second meeting at which these proceedings, I believe, originated, it appeared to me to be as much con- fined to one party, and to be conducted so much with party spirit, that I declined having anything to do with it. My question was, whether the first meeting was numerously attended by respectable persons of all parties? I think it was numerously attended ; there was no public meeting called, — it was accidentally, I believe, in the Commercial Rooms. Mr. Justice Park. — It was numerously attended and by persons of all parties ? I think it was. Mr. Seijeant Wilde. — Was the occasion that the Magistrates ordered the men to fire, that has since operated on your mind ? I think it was the explanation that was published in the Bristol papers by the Magistrates, which I considered quite satisfactory. Are you alluding to the copy of the statement to Lord Melbourne ? There was a general statement in the Bristol papers. Is that the statement you are referring to, — a statement purporting to be a letter to Lord Melbourne ? I think it was the only statement that was published. That was the statement that altered your opinion 1 It satisfied me. You have not answered me when the occasion was that you understood the order was given to fire? The only explanation that I had was this that I tell you, the publication of the exculpation of the Magistrates. Then it is the information contained in that paper which has altered your mind ? It persuaded me that the Magistrates were not blameable. Did you attend the second meeting 1 ! That originated in the other. Did you attend it ? It was at the second meeting that I seconded this resolution. Am I to understand you, that it was at that second meeting, at which the thing was taken up with so much party feeling, that you seconded the resolution'? It was. That resolution, I believe, blamed both military and Magistrates 1 No, I think it blamed the Magistrates alone. Did you second more than one resolution ? I am not aware that I did at the first. As you seconded only one resolution, did not that blame both Magistrates and military, and pray for enquiry? It did. If there is anything you wish to add, you can do so. Sir James Scarlett. — I suppose that resolution was in writing? Mr. Serjeant Wilde. — Do not suppose anything, but ask what you are entitled to by and by. Witness. — At the first meeting I am not aware that I seconded a resolu- tion, but I remember being appointed one of the committee with gentlemen of all parties to draw up some resolutions to be submitted to a future meeting ; those resolutions I seconded, but they were negatived by the meeting ; and one of the gentlemen of the committee, whom I see present, who has taken an active part in those proceedings, seconded a second resolution which I did not at all approve of, and it was thrown out. I saw so much party feeling and so much persecution, as I thought unjustly, that I determined to quit my hands of it altogether ; my object was not party spirit at all. Was not a resolution seconded by you condemning the Magistrates and military and praying for an enquiry, and was not there an amendment that 342 was carried, excluding all blame upon anybody, and only praying for enquiry ? I cannot charge my memory, — it is a thing 1 have never thought of from that time to this. Mr. Campbell. — Was it not a written resolution 1 Mr. Justice Taunton. — I have thought long ago, that this may be extremely interesting as matter of local politics, but I do not see what connection it has with the present information. Mr. Serjeant Wilde. — The connection it has is this, — that when the witness was stating he was satisfied that they could not be put down without the aid of the military, he had at one time entertained and expressed a very different opinion. Mr. Justice Taunton. — That he has stated, and he has explained why he entertained that opinion and why he altered his opinion. Mr. Serjeant Wilde. — You made a speech at that meeting — I ask you if you did not make a speech to induce persons to vote that the military and the Magistrates were to blame, and that enquiry must be made into their conduct? I think you must be wrong, — I do not remember ever having made a speech at a public meeting in my life. You seconded the resolution 1 I did. Did you speak when you said that 1 I merely said, “ I beg to second it.” Mr. Justice Taunton. — He said before, that he made no speech, but only seconded the resolution. Mr.Serjean* Wilde. — Was the resolution that was moved in writing or not ? The resolution that 1 seconded was decidedly in writing. Do you know whether the amendment that was moved was in writing, or was merely introduced in the gentleman’s speech? I should presume it ■was in writing, but I cannot take upon me to say. What was the gentleman’s name who moved the amendment? — was it Mr. Manchee? 1 do not recollect ; I think the party I allude to was Mr. Waring ; I think he seconded the amendment — he certainly moved against the original resolution, and supported the amendment. I ask you, if the gentleman that moved the amendment did not make a speech to induce the meeting not to vote disapprobation upon any body, but to make enquiry? I cannot charge my memory about that speech. Can you give me the dates of the meetings that you attended ? I cannot. Will you undertake to say, that that statement of the Magistrates that you read, was not published before the second meeting? I cannot. I believe your general politics are with the Corporation ? I am not aware that the Corporation have any politics — at least they have local politics ; but whether Whig or Toiy I do not know— -they are some of all parties. Have you never happened to hear at Bristol whether the Corporation are Whig or Tory ? There are individuals of both parties in the Corporation. The majority of the Corporation — have you happened to have heard how they are? 1 cannot say. Re-examined by Mr. Campbell. Were you upon the Committee of Enquiry ? No, I was not. Was it from what you witnessed at this second meeting, that you thought the enquiry was likely to be conducted with party-spirit ? It was ; it was so evidently, and the gentlemen who originally took it up with myself, agreed with me in opinion. You say*, that early on the Saturdays you think the riot might have been suppressed bv a civil force — to what time on the Saturday ? I should think till so much damage had been done to the Mansion-house — two hours after Sir (diaries Wetherell came to the Mansion-house. \\ ith respect to the Sunday — you sav, that at seven o’clock on the Sun- day there were very few persons there 1 Very few ; they were only beginning to assemble. 343 After the mob had assembled on the Sunday morning, they attacked the Mansion-house; was it then, in your judgment, possible to put down the riot by a civil force ? I do not think it was. Mr. Justice Park. — One of the gentlemen of the jury wishes this question to be asked : — Did you assist, at any time during the riot, to sup- press the mob, or to extinguish the fire? I did ; I attended the procession that escorted Sir Charles Wetherell, on its reaching Bristol Bridge ; from thence I proceeded, protecting the carriage from the assaults upon it, to the Guildhall. Mr. Justice Park. — I do not suppose it is necessary, in order to answer the question of the gentleman, to go into detail. Foreman of the Jury. — We are satisfied with the answer, without any further detail. Witness. — I apprehended the first man that was taken, and delivered him up into custody. Mr. ISAMBIRD BRUNELL sworn. — Examined by Mr. Follett. You are a civil engineer ? I am. You are a son of Mr. Brunell ? I am. Were you at Bristol during the riots ? I was. I believe you were actively engaged in rendering what assistance you could, during all the time of the riots ? I was. You were at every place, I think, where the mob was 1 No, not at the prisons ; I was at the Mansion-house and the Palace. Had you an opportunity of observing who the persons were that were engaged with this mob ? Yes. Did you observe, also, the conduct of the multitude that were not actually engaged? I did. Did the multitude in general assist, by their shouts and presence, the mob 1 At first they were indifferent, allowing the mob, and always making wav for them ; and towards dark, certainly, a greatnumber of them shouted. What were the sort of shouts ! When the military came, they shouted ‘ * The King and Reform but before that I cannot describe the sort of shouts. Those shouts of “ King and Reform” came from the multitude in ge- neral 1 Yes. Were you at Bristol upon the Monday, when the special constables began to be formed? I was. Did you observe amongst any body of special constables, any of the per- sons you had seen active in the riots upon the preceding days 1 Several . Was there any particular body in which you recognised a great number of those persons ? No, I did not recognize any particular body, but some three or four who had been exceedingly troublesome upon the Saturday night, in front of the Mansion-house ; I recognized one in particular. At what time, on the Monday, did you see those persons who had been actively engaged in the riots, acting as special constables 1 They joined a party with whom I was, at half-past seven. Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Wilde. The three or four persons whom you saw acting as constables upon the Sunday — what did they do upon the Saturday 1 One, in particular, rescued a prisoner twice from my hands. When you saw him acting as special constable upon the Monday, did you enquire his name ? No, I did not ; I spoke to him, and reminded him that I had seen him the night before. Did you report him to any of the Magistrates ? I mentioned him, but finding that I recognised him, I suppose, he left the party with whom he was. Did you mention him to any Magistrates ? I mentioned the circumstance but not his name. Do you recollect which of the Magistrates you mentioned it to 1 No, I cannot. Do you recollect what body he was in 1 I mentioned that he joined the body of which I formed one, — a body of the special constables. Who headed that body ? I do not know the gentleman’s name. Did you point this man out to the person who had the lead of that party of special constables? I rather think I did; but we had plenty to do without that. The two or three others that you speak of, were they in your party also ? No, one of them came and spoke to one of our party. What had you seen those persons doing on the Saturday 1 The other man was a man that struck me. Did you at all enquire his name ? I did, of a constable who knew him, and I think I learnt his name, but I forget it. Did you mention that person to the Magistrates ? I think I did. How long did you see those persons acting as special constables — did you see them, at various times, during the day? I think I did. Were they armed at all upon the Saturday? No. Mr. CHRISTOPHER, CLAXTON sworn. — Examined by Sir James Scarlett. I believe you are a half-pay officer in the navy ? I am, and I hold a situation under the corporation of Bristol. What is your situation ? Corn-meter. A day or two before the 29th of October, did you make any efforts to secure a body of the seamen ? Not a day or two before, — I think ten days before ; it was on a Tuesday. Did you collect a body of the seamen together, for the purpose of enrolling them to keep the peace ? I collected them to try them for that purpose, but I was prevented ; a body of men came down and prevented us, by getting into one of the ships with which I am connected with Mr. Pinney, and if I had not dissolved the meeting, we should have come to blows. Who were those body of men ? — did you know any of them ? I knew only two of them ; one of them was, I was informed, and understood from cir- cumstances that took place before, the secretary of the Political Union. It was a person of the name of Yen was it not 1 No, Powell. How many persons came with him ? I did not see them coming along the Quay, but I should think more than two hundred ; they came into a ship nearest to the Quay ; I was in a ship next to it. Then your object was known, was it? I presume so. What steps did they take to prevent you? Merely interrupted me. Was it by language, or by violence, or by what ? I heard a cry, “ Set to work, Powell I was asked a great many questions, and I gave answers, but really cannot recollect the questions. Do you remember, about the same period, or between that time and the time of Sir Charles W etherell coming in, any meeting that was said to be of the Political Union, in Queen-square? Previous to that, the Monday after the Reform Bill was thrown out by a majority of 42 in the Lords. There was a meeting of a party that was called the Political Union ? I am not sure whether it was called the Political Union, but there was a meeting of a party, and the chairman of the Political Union was in the chair. Who was that? Mr. Heraj a l h. Did you hear any speech made ? I heard one speech ; I heard part of one speech distinctly. 345 Were there a good many people assembled! I should think, being a tolerable judge of numbers, from having mustered a great many men of war’s crews, there must have been 4,000 people, at least. What was the sort of language used ! The language addressed by this individual, who made this particular speech ; — it is so long ago, that X should be sorry to say that I could repeat every word of it ; but I think I could . Perhaps you can repeat some of it, — I do not want the whole speech ! I could not give you the whole speech, for it was an hour long, but the part I recollect was calling the people to come forward with their pence, and to recollect what the Catholic rent had done in Ireland. Mr. Justice Taunton. — Do you think. Sir James Scarlett, that it is necessary for us to hear this speech ! It is important, my lord. Mr. Justice Taunton. — If you give one part of a speech, and it makes one way, undoubtedly the other side will be at liberty to give the other part, which may tell the other way ; if you give one speech, having one tendency, they will have a right to give other speeches ; and if they do so, probably all the public speeches, the first of which appears to have heen an hour long, will run to a considerable length. Sir James Scarlett. — Except to save time, I should have no objection if they were all given. Mr. Justice Taunton. — In stating thus much, I am only giving my own individual impression. Sir James Scarlett. — You hear what my Lord says, and therefore I will not trouble you to repeat any of the speech ; did you see the multitude assembled in Queen-square, on the Saturday and the Sunday! No, I was eighteen miles from Bristol. Mr. JAMES WILLIAM GIBBONS sworn.— Examined by Mr.CAMPBELL. I believe that during these riots at Bristol, you were a clerk of Messrs. Burges and Brice? I was. Did you remain at the Mansion-house on Sunday night! On the Saturday night. You w r ere there on the Sunday morning ? I was. Do you recollect, on the Sunday morning, the mob attacking the Mansion- house ? I do. In your judgment was it necessary that the Mayor, and those who were in the Mansion-house, should leave it to save their lives ? Mr. Justice Park. — That is proved by the witnesses on both sides, and not disputed. Mr. Campbell. — Where you present when the Mayor made his escape from the Mansion-house ! I was. Was he accompanied by Major Mackworth ! He was. How did Major Mackworth and he make their escape ? From a window at the back part of the premises. Upon some leads ! Upon some leads. Did they descend from the leads ? They descended from the window to the leads, and from the leads they got upon the wall, and from the wall the Mayor got down a ladder, and also Major Mackworth. Did you see them go down the ladder together — the one after the other ! I did. Did they from thence get to Mr. Leman’s house ! They did. And so to the Custom-house ? And so to the Custom-house. Did you accompany them ! I did. Were where they when they first resolved to leave the house ! On the top of the stairs, near the drawing-room. Did you accompany them from that time, till they had finally escaped by descending to the Custom-house ! I did. t 346 Was there any female that you saw at that time ? Not one. Was there any female present 1 Not one. l)o you know what had become of the females 1 Yes. What had become of them 1 At the first attack they ran up stairs, and there they remained. After leaving the Custom-house, did the Mayor' give you any orders ? He did. What were those orders ? He desired me to go to the Guildhall, and there I met the Under-Sheriff. What were you to do at the Guildhall ? — were you to meet the Under- Sheriff, Mr. Hare 1 Yes, and to assist in getting the constables together. We understand that, on the Sunday morning, the great gate of the Guildhall was shut ? It was. Were you stationed anywhere 1 I was. Where ? At the Guildhall-chambers, by the desire of Mr. Under- Sheriff Hare. For what purpose? For the purpose of telling all persons who came there, that the Magistrates were up stairs, or would be up stairs in the Guildhall. Did you say so to a number of persons that came 1 I did, to a great number of persons. Is the side entrance to the Guildhall through the Guildhall Chambers where you were stationed ? It is. Is that the usual mode of going into the Guildhall ? It is. Cross-examined by the Attorney-General. The maids did escape, I suppose, some time or other! I do not know. You know the Mansion-house well, I suppose ? I do. There were leads over some offices ? There were. And upon those leads persons came out of the window, where the Mayor escaped ? Yes. Do you know Townsend ? Not by name. Did you see him examined here ? No. Do you know Mr. Sheriff Lax’s servant? Yes. The man that had the freedom given to him by the Sheriff? Yes. You were not in Court when he was examined 1 I was not. Was he there at the time the Mayor escaped ? I did not see him. Do you mean to say that you did not observe him, or that you are sure you did not see him ! I mean to say that I did not observe him. Then he might be there, and you not see him ? He might te there. You are come, from Bristol this morning, I hear my Learned Friend say ? I am. Mr. JOHN WOOD sworn — Examined by Mr, Follett. I believe you were living in Bristol at the time of those disturbances ? I was. I believe you were called out of church on Sunday ? I was, Did you take any summonses from the Magistrates to the Church- wardens of the different parishes ? Yes, 1 did. I believe you, and one of your brothers, went round to the different Chuxxhwardens with the notices? Yes. Mr. Justice Park. — At what time was that? It was after the first meeting at the Guildhall ; I think we left about half-past twelve. Mr. Follett. — What parishes did you go yourself to ? I went first to All Saints ; I saw one of the Churchwardens of that parish. 347 Can you tell how many you went to yourself ? I can name them ; I went first to All Saints ; the Churchwarden said he would attend to them himself, and I went from there home, and desired my brother to take it to some other Churchwardens, which he did. 1 was waiting in the streets for his return, and I saw a vestryman in the street, and I told him I had such a notice ; he told me I had better tell the Magistrates to order out the fire-engines, and pump over the people. What parish was that ? The parish of St. Thomas ; I went, after that, to the churchwardens of several other parishes ; some had before received a different notice, and I overtook two churchwardens in the street, who were going to the Magistrates, to inform them, that they had endeavoured to assemble their parishioners together, in consequence of having received a previous notice similar to mine, and it was in vain, — they could not succeed, and they were then going to inform the Magistrates, at the Guildhall, of their failure. The last person I called upon was a vestryman of one of the parishes, to enquire where the churchwardens lived. He told me that the Magistrates had sent the military out of the city, and he would have nothing to do with it, and recommended me to do the same, and I shortly after went to the Guildhall. What parish was that ? St. Stephen’s. I believe you afterwards went back to the meeting, at the Guildhall ? I did. You were present at both meetings at the Guildhall ? I was. At either of the meetings did you hear any person say that the soldievs had fired upon the people without necessity ? No ; that was in the evening, at the Council-house, after both meetings had broken up ; Mr. Herapath and Mr. Yen, the president and secretary of the Political Union, came in, and said, that the cause of all the disturbance was, that the military had fired on the mob without sufficient provocation. This you say was at the Council-house 1 It was ; I should think about seven o’clock in the evening. Were the Magistrates there? One, Mr. Alderman Savage; it was Herapath who said this. Was Mr. Alderman Savage present when he said it ? He was. Were there other persons present, at the Council-house, at that time ? Yes ; in different parts of the Council-house ; after Herapath said this, he found the opinion of the meeting was contrary to what he had expressed, and then he turned round and said, that Ven was his informant ; Ven corrobo- rated it ; Yen was the secretary of the Political Union; I then stepped forward and said, that Yen’s opinion ought not to be taken, for I had seen him cheering on the mob, the preceding evening, in front of the Mansion- house, — which I had ; he denied it. At what time in the evening was it you saw him ? It was between six and half past six, on the Saturday evening. You say that he denied it at the Council-house? He did. What did he say when he denied it? He denied it, and Alderman Savage turned round to me and said, “ My good fellow, make no accusations now, — let us all be united or something to that effect. I ask you now, are you quite sure that you did see Mr. Ven, on the Saturday evening, cheering on the mob ? 1 am stating it on my oath ; I am quite positive of it ; I also went to the Magistrates, — I think twice in the following week, — to lay an information against him, — or rather in the same week with the Sunday. Cross-examined by Mr. Serjeant Wilde. Do you know w'hether any thing was done in consequence of your information ? — has he been taken up and tried ? No, the Magi strates con suited together, and said, that they thought it came within the limits of the l 348 Act, or they thought it did not, I am not certain which, — and they thought it was better left alone ; but I mentioned it to a friend, who intended preferring an indictment against Ven, but as I have been to the West Indies it was dropped. Re-examined by Sir James Scarlett. You made no written statement? No, I do not know that I made a written statement ; I gave this evidence, or the substance of it, to the Committee of Enquiry. You stated what you have stated now, about Ven, to the Committee of Enquiry? I did. Did they take it down in writing ? They did, and I signed it. Who was the chairman, at that time? I do not know who was the chairman, but I sent a note to the Committee of Enquiry, stating that I had this evidence to give ; I merely stated that I had the evidence to give respecting Ven ; but while I was there, I recollected that I had this evi- dence respecting the Mayor, which the majority present objected to receive, and it was overruled by Mr Visger. You were going to give some evidence in favor of the Mayor? That I had received these circulars from the Mayor. To gather the people together? Yes, and those who were present objected to it, but Mr. Visger overruled it ; and he was not supported by a single individual, — but, however, my evidence was taken respecting it ; while 1 was there, a person came in Mr. Justice Park. — I am afraid we cannot go into all that? It is to shew the conduct of this Committee of Enquiry. Sir James Scarlett. — The evidence you gave was in writing, and I take for granted that it was laid before the proper persons ? Mr. Justice Park. — I understood the last witness to say that his evi- dence in favour of the Mayor with respect to sending the circular round to the different Churchwardens, was taken. Sir J ames Scarlett.— Yes. JAMES BYRNE sworn- -Examined by Mr. Follett. I believe you are a bill-sticker at Bristol ? Yes. Were you employed on the Sunday to post bills about the walls, at Bristol ? 1 was. Do you produce copies of them ? I have copies of two or three, but tbere were two of them which I have mislaid by some means or other. [A bill was shewn to the witness.] That is one ! That is one — I did not post them all myself, but I had a person assisting me. You went about posting with a person assisting you ? I did. That, and some other bills? That, and some other bills. Did you post a good number of those bills about most parts of the town ? I did, particularly in the neighbourhood of Queen-square. In posting the bills, were you at all interrupted by the people ? Very much. Were any of the bills torn down again as soon as you posted them ? Repeatedly — directly they were against the wall. Did any body insult you ? I had two or three thrown in my face. (Another bill was shewn to the Witness.) You posted some of that sort, too, I believe? No, I did not post any of those ; 1 distributed several of them, but as to the number I cannot speak, because we went down into the office, ^ and had them as we wanted them. 349 When did you distribute them ? I took them out occasionally when I went posting, and gave them to respectable persons that I met in the street. Mr. Foluett. — This is the one that was distributed : — “ The Magis- trates most earnestly entreat the assistance of their fellow-citizens, to restore the peace of the city, by assembling immediately at the Guildhall.” Have the goodness to read the other. (The same was delivered in, and read as follows : — ) “ Council-Office, Bristol, 27th of October, 1831. — It having been appre- hended, from information through various channels, that some indiscreet persons may be inclined to promote feelings of irritation and excitement, on the arrival of the Recorder, the Mayor and Aldermen most earnestly hope that all classes of their fellow-citizens, however they may differ on political subjects, will see the propriety of cordially co-operating to main- tain peace and good order, and that they will abstain from manifesting any declaration of their opinions on so solemn and important an occasion as the delivery of his Majesty’s Gaol, in cases affecting the lives of the persons to be tried for offences against the laws of their country. The Magistrates confidently trust that they may rely on the good sense and discretion of the inhabitants, not to depart from that orderly conduct which has hitherto prevailed in the city ; but should any disposition be shewn, tending to create disturbance, they feel it will become their imperative duty to use all lawful means for the apprehending and bringing to punish- ment all persons who may be found committing any breach of the peace, or other illegal act. By order of the Mayor and Aldermen, Ludlow, Town-Clerk.” Mr. Follett. — That last bill was posted before the Saturday ? It was posted before the Saturday. In various parts of the town ? In most parts of the town. Mr. Campbell. — That is Appendix No. 1. (Another hand-bill was delivered in and read, dated “ Mansion-house, 30th October, 1831,” and signed “ Charles Finney, Mayor.” Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. Whs not there one calling upon the pensioners ? There was. Was that printed upon the Monday, and posted, or upon what day? It was on the Monday. Did you see them in arms on that day, or assembled ? I saw the pen- sioners, some of them. How many did you see ? I cannot say how many I saw. Whs it twenty ? No, it was not. But you saw some ? I saw some. Mr. JAMES CUNNINGHAM sworn. — Examined by Sir James Scarlett. I believe you are an inhabitants of Bristol ? I have a counting-house at Bristol, — I reside at Clifton. Is your counting-house near to Queen-square ? It did adjoin the Man- sion-house, part of Mr. Leman’s house. I believe it was burned ? It was destroyed by fire by the rioters. I believe you saw some part of the riots on Saturday ? I did. Do you remember a part of the mob being first repulsed by the consta- bles? Perfectly. Did any part of the mob return reinforced after that ? They did ; they went and armed themselves upon the Back, and returned with faggots and sticks. 350 The Back is the street behind, is it not? It is the street behind. At what time did you leave your counting-house ? I think about three or soon after three o’clock in the day. Did you come back to Bristol on the next day, the Sunday morning 1 I did. About what o’clock were you in Bristol ? As near as I can recollect I got to Park-street about nine o’clock. Do your remember proceeding down Unity-street near to College-green? I proceeded that way. Do you remember meeting any gentlemen as you were going, who gave you any advice? 1 do. What was the advice you received 1 Not to go in that direction, for I should meet the Mayor who was calling out the citizens, or rather he was calling the posse comitatus to assist him. Did you think it proper to avoid the Mayor? I considered it my duty to persevere in that direction. Did you accordingly persevere in that direction, and did you meet the Mayor? I did ; I met him on St. Augustine’s Back. What did you observe the Mayor doiag there ? He was knocking at the doors from house to house, calling upon the inhabitants to assist in defend- ing the city, he called upon me to do the same in the King’s name ; he commanded me to aid and assist in keeping the peace. W as the progress of the Mayor at that time towards the Mansion-house ? It was ; he had passed down through Unity-street, through Orchard-street, I take it through Denmark-street, and he was then on his way to the Man- sion-house. And you observed him going from house to house making this requisi- tion ? I did, — I accompanied him. Did either of the Aldermen Ililhouse accompany him? Alderman Abraham Hilhouse accompanied him. Did you shortly afterwards see Colonel Brereton with a detachment of the 3rd dragoon guards come up to the Mayor 1 I did ; whilst the Mayor was informing me what had occurred at the Mansion-house, Col. Brereton came up with a detachment of the 3rd dragoon guards. Mr. Justice Littledale. — At what time was this ? It must have been very soon after nine in the morning, — it might be as late as half-past nine. Sir James Scarlett. — Did you hear him state to Colonel Brereton what he wished him to do ? I did ; Colonel Brereton seeing the Mayor, made a sort of halt, and I think, addressed the Mayor ; and the Mayor said “ pro- ceed to Queen-square and I will follow you, and again read the Riot Act.” Did the troops proceed ? They did. Did the Mayor and Hilhouse follow them ? They did ; I accompanied them to the Drawbridge, the Swing-bridge. When you accompanied them to the Swing-bridge, were you desirous of going on with the Mayor to the Mansion-house 1 I was ; I considered that the Mayor was unprotected, and I said, “ Mr. Mayor, permit me to go to Queen-square with you his reply was, “ No, proceed to the Guildhall, and call upon as many as you meet, to accompany you, and I will meet you there.” Did you then part with the Mayor ? I did ; the Mayor went down upon the Quay ; he took the direct road to the Mansion-house, and I took the direct road to the Guildhall. When you arrived at the G uildhall, did you meet any other Magistrate there 1 On my way to the Guildhall, I went to the Commercial Rooms ; and I am not aware whether it was after I went to the Commercial Rooms or before I came out, that Mr. Waring joined me ; Mr. Waring and myself, 1 believe, entered the Guildhall together. Mr. Waring is the gentleman that has been examined here, — the Quaker 1 Mr. Waring is a gentleman who has been examined here, — one of the Society of Fiiends. 351 Did you see any Magistrates at the Guildhall, before the Mayor arrived ? I did, several. How long did you remain at the Guildhall, at that period ? I do not think I remained at the Guildhall an hour, — from half an hour to three quarters of an hour, I went into the Magistrates’ room; during- the time I staid. During that half hour to three quarters did any sufficient number of persons collect at the Guildhall, to form any force that might be used with effect? Certainly not. You waited there from half an hour to three quarters ; that would get you to beyond ten ? I should think about ten. In consequence of observing that few persons came, did you proceed to Queen-square, to look after your counting-house ? Mr. Waring and myself agreed that we would go through the city to see the state of the mob, and we proceeded through Queen-square together. Did you return in the course of the day to your counting-house ? When I got to Queen-square, I understood that one of my clerks, one of the special constables had been severely wounded the preceding night, and that he had escaped over the wall of the Mansion-house, and was then in the building, the house of Mr. Leman ; I immediately went up, found him severely bruised about the arm and the head, and I conducted him from thence to a place of safety. Did you perceive in what state the Mansion-house was ? I did — it was dreadful — the furniture broken, and the windows broken, and, in fact, it ap- peared that the mob had been in possession of it. Was the mob at that time expelled from it by the military ? Yes. And you found the military there I I found a detachment of the 3d dragoon guards drawn up, one half in Charlotte-street, and the other half in Queen-square. During your stay in the Square, was your attention called to any officer on horseback, followed by a crowd 1 It was. Who was that officer 1 Coming from the Excise avenue, I saw a military officer trotting or galloping, coming along, and the crowd cheering him ; and upon his coming near to me, I discovered it was Colonel Brereton. I believe the troops were, at that time, in two divisions of the Square ? They were. Were they standing still in their stations 1 To the best of my belief, they were standing still — I have some recollection that one of the divisions was making a small circle in front of the Mansion-house. Did you see upon what terms the soldiers appeared to be with the multitude ? I did ; I considered it was not safe for me to remain any longer — they were upon perfectly familiar terms, — the people were going up to the soldiers, and patting their horses, they were quite familiar one with another. Did you see any drink given to the soldiers? I did not ; I saw the people drinking, but not the soldiers. In the course of the day, did you go to the Guildhall again ? I did not. Did you go to the Council-house in the evening 1 I did not ; I returned to the town in the evening, but I did not go to the Council-house or to the Guildhall. From what you observed in the town, both in the morning and the even- ing, did it appear to you that there was any disposition among the inha- bitants to aid the Magistrates in keeping the peace ? Quite otherwise. Do you remember any time, upon the Sunday evening, seeing the Mayor and Alderman Hilhouse ? On Sunday morning. Did you see the Mayor and Alderman Hilhouse after the time you have first mentioned 1 I did not see the Mayor after that ; I think I had left the Guildhall before the Mayor had got there. 35*2 Cross-examined by Mr. Attorney-General. You went, with Mr. Waring, to the meeting at the Guildhall? 1 did ', I think we entered together. Were you greeted with this compliment — “ It is well that you gentle- men reformers are come ?” Something of that sort occurred, from Mr. Hare, with whom I am on very intimate terms, and we are in the habit of joking each other about our political sentiments. W as this said in the presence of a good many people ? It was said in the presence of a good number. How many do you think there were ? Under twenty, — perhaps under 15. You did not count them ? No, but they w r ere very few ; I could move about from one part of the room to the other. There was a public meeting, we understand, on the 3rd of November ? There was a public meeting soon after the conflagration. Were you at that meeting? I attended it. It was adjourned, I understand ? I do not know that the first could be called a public meeting, for it was merely a meeting of the subscribers of the rooms. There were about 700 were there not ? I mean the meeting at which I was called to the chair. How many persons do you think there were at the Commercial Rooms the first time ? The usual number, or probably a few more that might have been brought together by a person who signified his intention. How many? I should think from 200 to 300 persons. Did you take the chair at that meeting ? I must beg to explain, — I took the chair at a meeting held at the Commercial Rooms, Was it the first meeting? It was the first meeting, but something occurred the day before ; some gentleman signified his intention to call this meeting. Do you remember what day this meeting was? I have no recollection. It was not the Thursday, the 3rd of November, was it ? If you have it before you that it was the 3rd, it must be so. Did you take the chair at any second meeting ? I did not. You attended the second meeting? I did not ; but let me fully under- stand the question — do you mean to ask me if I attended a meeting held at the Rooms in Prince’s-street. At the Commercial Rooms ? I attended the meeting at the Commercial Rooms, but not a meeting in Prince’s-street. At what room w r as the meeting in Prince’s-street ? At what is called the Great Room — the Assembly-room. How soon was that after the first meeting ? I should think two or three weeks. You did not attend at the second meeting? I did not. How long were you at the Guildhall on that Sunday ? I think I have stated about an hour ; it might not have been so much. Did you go to the adjourned meeting at half-past three ? I did not attend any other meeting at the Guildhall that day. Did you accompany the Mayor to the Guildhall ? I did not ; I left him, as I before told you, he going along the Quay, and myself pursuing my route up Clare-street. You say that you saw no disposition in the people to assist the Magis- trates ? I speak generally : I saw one man that said, “ I have been out on duty ss a special constable,” but, generally, the persons I met about the streets declined going to the meeting. At what time was that ? Between 9 and 10 : I went as fast as I could walk to the Guildhall. You have known Mr. Pinney very well? Perfectly well. 353 For many years 1 For many years. You never happened to see him ride, I daresay? Never, certainly ; I have never seen Mr. Pinney on horseback, and until the question was asked here, I should have sworn, most positively, that he had not been on horse- back, but I have since heard that which induces me to believe that I should have sworn falsely. Re-examined by Sir James Scarlett. When you went to the Guildhall, and Mr. Sheriff Hare addressed you and Mr. Waring, was the address to both of you as reformers ? 1 should rather suppose it was to myself, being more intimately acquainted with Mr. Hare. I may say, I suppose, that you were disposed to Reform 1 Certainly. We have heard, in this Court, that every wise and honest man was^soj Certainly ; I shall never be ashamed of declaring my sentiments. When Mr. Hare addressed that to you, was it addressed by way of rebuke, or was it an expression of pleasure to see men of your description come ? I think it was the expression of pleasure to see men of all parties come there. You were not offended at it? Not at all ; it did not interrupt the friend- ship I have ever had with Mr. Hare, a single moment. If I understood you right, you and the Attorney- General had some pnzzle about the first and second meeting — was there some preliminary arrangement first to hold a meeting 1 A member of the Commercial-rooms stated upon the day preceding the public meeting, that he would call a meeting ; and it was understood by the subscribers, that that meeting should be called forthwith ; and it was actually called the next day. Were you placed in the chair at that meeting ? Much against my will I was placed in the chair at that meeting, — one gentleman had taken the chair and rushed out of it, and the meeting was likely to break up in disorder, and in order to preserve the meeting I took the chair. Mr. Justice Park. — Was that the 3rd of Novembers ? I do not remem- her the date. Sir James Scarlett. — Was that a meeting for thp purpose of instituting an enquiry into the cause of the riots ? It was for the purpose of a general enquiry as to the cause of the riots, Was any committee named at that meeting? Yes. Were you named as one of the committee? Certainly I was named, as chairman of the committee. Did you attend the committee ? I did, repeatedly. Did you continue to attend it? I did, for some time. Did you give it up at last ? I did. For what reason did you quit it, — I must have the reason — what was your reason for quitting the committee at which you attended for some time 1 Am I bound to give it 1 I apprehend you are ? The gentlemen that were appointed on the com- mittee, their object really appeared to me more that of persecuting the Magistrates than of entering into the general enquiry. Were you satisfied of that from what you observed ? Permit me to say that many gentlemen that were appointed at the public meeting, declined being on the committee. You deolinea attenning because you found the committee, instead of being a committee for a general enquiry, had a view to prosecute the Ma- gistrates ? I certainly left them on that account. You opened a correspondence with Lord Melbourne ? They opened a correspondence with Lord Melbourne, and with the members for the city. B b 354 I am not clear whether the correspondence with Lord Melbourne was opened by myself and the members of the committee, or only with the members ; but we had letters from Lord Melbourne. You say that when you had found the committee, which you had pro- posed for the purpose of a general inquiry, had become a mere party com- mittee for the purpose of prosecuting the Magistrates, you declined at- tending any further ! Precisely. Sir James Scarlett. — My Lords, I propose to close my case here ; the Magistrates are in attendance, and I will take on myself the responsibility of not calling those gentlemen, who are themselves the subject of infor- mations. Therefore I must leave the case as it stands. The Attorney -General rose to reply , and addressed the Jury in the following terms : — “ May it please your Lordship, Gentlemeu of the Jury — “ It now becomes my duty to make a few observations to you, and I hope with reference to the length of the evidence, that they may be few upon this case of extreme import- ance ; and before I proceed to make any comments upon the evidence, I trust that I may expect the serious attention of you all, when I observe, in the first place, upon that irrelevant mass of matter, the greater part of which, given in evidence on the other side, I think I shall sweep away almost with a single observation, But in the first place, I must beg to call your attention to that load of invective and insinuation with which my learned friend has thought it right, or rather has felt it necessary to endeavour to envelop and to sink and to bury the merits of this case — keeping it wholly out of your considera- tion, avoiding every topie on which the charge is really founded, and upon which the question is to be tried, for the purpose of making an appeal to prejudices which he may possibly discover, and for the purpose of keeping alive those wounds in the public mind, which I thought all men wished now to be closed, and to resort to prejudice and to feeling in order to get rid of the effect of plain facts and conclusive evidence. “ My learned friend, in that peroration which, eloquent as it was, was much more remarkable, allow me to say, for its labour than even for its eloquence, introduced a long antithesis or a string of them to your consideration, not with the slightest view to insinuate or to infer anything for the benefit of him whom he is defending, but for the purpose of casting imputations upon those who have felt it a most sacred duty to draw the attention* and I trust, the unprejudiced attention of a Jury of the country 355 to a consideration of the conduct of the Bristol Magistrates. He thought proper to tell you, not with a very fortunate mode, I think, of ushering in a powerful topic, that the Magistrates had not been guilty of that inflammation of the public mind which he evidently meant to impute to others. He said, that they had not directed any declamations against Corporate property and Corporate monopolies, and so on, as if for the mere purpose of reminding you of that almost forgotten declamation with regard to Corporate robbery with which our ears were made to ring some eighteeu months ago. It was not very likely, to be sure, that the Magistrates of a Corporation should be among the first to sound a crusade against Corporation property ; and therefore, that may be taken as a mere introduction (and I think very far from a happy one) to the antithesis that were to follow. “ My learned friend then went on to say something about the taxes, and he was to be reminded of the taxes by the burn- ing of the Custom-house ; and inasmuch as the Customs are an important part of the King’s taxes, he told you that the public creditor had never been held up as an object to be despoiled by the Magistrates of Bristol, and that they had never preached up the doctrine that you should decline to pay your taxes if the Government did not go on as you like. Now, that also was a subject upon which some gentlemen of the highest honor and respectability, led away by the fermentation of the moment, were induced to express themselves warmly and most reprehen- sibly (for I do not attempt for an instant to defend it) but I was in hopes that the good feeling of the country had determined to bury in oblivion all the unhappy expressions on both sides, and among others, when my learned friend talks of some Magis- trate, who was supposed to have expressed his opinion, I know not whom be may have meant, but I know that that opinion fell from the lips of one distinguished Nobleman, I mean Lord Milton, as to whom I did not expect to have heard that my learned friend would have uttered one syllable of imputation or reproach.” Sir James Scarlett. — “ Allow me to assure you that I had no view to Lord Milton, — I alluded to resolutions passed at a meeting of the inhabitants of the county of Middlesex.” B b 2 356 Mr. Attorney-General. — “ I do not state who my learned friend alluded to, but I know that Lord Milton was one of the individuals so charged, and my learned friend must have known that there was a probability of that being at least cast as an aspersion upon Lord Milton, whose honor and whose pa- triotism stand far above any insinuation that can come from any quarter, and whose perfectly amiable and excellent qualities must have been known to my learned friend, when for so many years his own merits recommended him to the borough of Maldon and the city of Peterborough, in which Lord Milton is pretty well known and pretty justly appreciated, as to whom I will not attempt to insult him by any panegyric of mine, — I will leave his character where it stands, and I will leave the temporary indiscretion of the moment to be dug up, perhaps? when some other Magistrate may be brought to answer for a breach of duty — when it shall be convenient for an advocate to divert the attention of the Jury from that question to topics of mere excitement and insinuation. “ There was another topic that my learned friend alluded to — the topic of the Bishop’s Palace. You see how propense — you see how premeditated this was. He said that if the Bishop’s Palace was also set on fire, the Magistrates had not called upon the Bishops to set their house in order ; an old insinuation also against the Prime Minister of the country, resulting from nothing but the ignorance of Scripture language on the part of those who made it, for it is perfectly impossible to give it the sense that some declaimers have thought proper to attach to it. “ Gentlemen, it is necessary for me to observe upon this, for this is the main stress of my learned friend’s speech ; and Ido assure you, that if I had seen these topics stated in a newspaper as a speech of any person — had I taken up a newspaper acciden- tally and found these things stated there, I should have said, who is it that has come forward with these old and forgotten and unpleasant recollections ? It must be, I should have said, some gentleman who has not been very successful in obtaining the ear of the House of Commons, who knows that he never can enter there again under the operation of this wicked Reform Bill, and who has taken the opportunity of visiting some club at a remote country town, with all the feelings that oppress his mind at the moment, giving to them all that which he ought to 357 have delivered in the House of Commons, if he meant to have given it at all. Or perhaps I should have said, it is somebody who has not exactly succeeded in obtaining some patronage that he may have expected from the Government, and who therefore wishes to shew them how great a loss they have had in losing one who could declaim so ably and so warmly ; and if any body had said to me, look at the top of the speech, you will see the name of your learned friend Sir James Scarlett, as having made it in defence of the Bristol Magistrates, I should have said, the thing is impossible, it is the press — it is the malig- nant and caluminous press that has invented it for the purpose of defaming my honorable and learned friend *, it is quite impossi- ble that he should have uttered these opinions, — it is out of his nature,-— he is the most discreet and the most subtle and con- siderate of advocates, — no man has such experience in Courts of Justice, and such management in winding the minds of a Jury to his purposes ; but then, perhaps, on second thoughts, I should have said, if he really has indulged in topics of this description upon such an occasion, it shews that he thinks that his case is desperate whenever it comes to be calmly considered. “ He added, I think, at the close of all, by way of climax, which was to give the greater effect to it, that he blamed nobody — that it was not said in the least for any purpose of blame, and with reference to that complaint we have heard so frequently about the newspapers, when he stated a particular paper to you, the gentlemen of Berkshire, at a time when it may probably have some impression upon political feelings, if there were any and I presume that was also done entirely in the execution of his duty. He thought that he might perhaps get some set-off feeling in favor of his client by making such an appeal as that. “ Now, I must protest against this notion of introducing newspapers into every possible discussion ; I believe that if l had been inclined to do so, I might have laid a great many columns of newspapers before you. We all know that the admonition was quite unnecessary with which ray learned friend concluded, namely, ‘ look to the evidence as given in the case and as the learned Judge who sums it up to you, and do not look at newspapers.’ That is quite a matter of course, gentlemen ; I do not mean to trouble you with what has been 358 said by the newspapers upon the other side during the progress of this trial, and I beg to state it to my learned friend, that lam quite sure that he been reading the newspapers, and it is from some or other of those newspapers that he thinks proper to bring forward these extracts from my speech upon which he made a comment.” Sir James Scarlett. — “ I read the shorthand writer’s note, and I read no newspaper^ I had the shorthand writer’s note in my hand.” A Juryman. — “ The Jury have no political feelings upon the subject.” Mr. Attorney-General. — “ No, gentlemen, I do not at all assume it, but I call upon you to observe the conduct of this case by my learned friend, and to see whether there are not to be traced, in parts of the conduct of this defence, indications which may lead you to suppose that certain speculations must have existed in his mind at the time, because I do assure you, as to what my learned friend stated as my sentiments, if they were brought forward from the shorthand writer’s notes it must have been a shorthand writer indeed. The material observa- tions he has made upon my statements, are totally founded upon an entire mis-stateuient of those statements — I never uttered what lie stated — perfectly the contrary. The most important of those statements with which he has thought proper to charge me, is the direct reverse to what I laid down before you as the subject of complaint against Mr. Pinuey, and I was therefore finding some little excuse for my learned friend ; I was sup- posing that he had not thought it worth his while to attend to anything as it fell from my lips, and that he must have seen it somewhere in some reports, excessively garbled, mutilated, and perverted. — But it seems now, that that garbling and mutilation must have taken place not by the newspaper, but by some short- hand writer, whose incorrect report has been laid before him. “ Gentlemen, you cannot suppose that it is agreeable for me to enter upon these topics, but as they have been introduced as a part of the tactics of my learned friend, do you think that I can sit down under what Sir James Scarlett imputed to me — that I have stated that the Magistrates might be excused for any excess of severity, but that for any excess of lenity 359 they must be punished ; or, that I complained of them for not calling upon the soldiers to fire. I complained of them for making that call, — for making it under any responsibility but their own, — for making it under the observation of any eye but theirs, — and I said, not that they exercised a culpable lenity, because they did not eall upon the military to fire, but I said that if that fatal and lamentable necessity did, in point of fact, exist, they were bound to have satisfied themselves of the absolute necessity of inflicting that summary punishment wherever they called upon the soldiers to inflict it ; and that they had no right to make it a transferable ticket, to be banded from one officer to another — or from one soldier to another— here, or there, when they were at Mr. Fripp’s, or at Clifton, and the rioters were supposed to be in the Square, but that they were bound to witness with their own eyes that riot, before they called upon any one soldier to fire — or upon any officer to give that command. Such was the doctrine I laid down. I appeal to the recollection of every one of you with the most perfect con- fidence, whether it was not the subject of my complaint, that from the first to the last in transferring all their responsibilities, they had particularly transferred that — and that when Major Beckwith was called upon to put down the riot, he was called upon to do so by a signed paper, without the presence of the Magistrates observing and being convinced of the necessity of resorting to that measure. “ Gentlemen, I know that I am doing my case no service by talking of these things, but my learned friend knew that they must be the subject of observation on my part, — he was quite sure that I could not be silent upon them; and that is a part of the tactics of this defence, which I charge to be distracting your attention, from the first to the last, from the real topic, and the real question you have to try. Another thing which occurs to me at this moment, is about compelling the citizens to go out ; I certainly did state that the Magistrates had the power to compel them to go out. The old law gave them that power— the new law gives them that power — the law which passed only fourteen days before, gave them that power ; but l having stated generally, that they had that power, I have been encountered by the authority of my learned friend’s saying 360 that they had no power to compel, but that they can only indict when it was not done. Now, I ask, are they taken by surprise at all ? My general complaint is, that they did not exercise the power they possessed. The ancient law required the Magistrate to quell riots, and gave him authority to do so ; the Special Constable Act of George IV. empowered them to swear in special constables upon the existence or apprehension of tumults — and the new act of his present Majesty gave them power to fine them directly if they should not come forward when the Magistrates called upon them. Now, the complaint is not that the Magistrates were called upon, within the formal technicali- ties of that Act, to swear in special constables, but the com- plaint is, that they abandoned every means of defence that they possessed, and that among others. The Sheriff, it is true, is the person to call out the posse comitatus — but it is less fit for the Magistrates to enquire whether the Sheriff has done so, and to direct his conduct accordingly. Some person, undoubtedly, must complain to the Magistrate before the Act is put in opera- tion by fining persons for not going out. But is the Magis- trate, therefore, not blameable in not requiring that Mr. Hare^ or Mr. Brice, or somebody, shall come forward and make that complaint ?’* Mr. Justice Park. — “The opinion of the Court upon that, was, that he could not be indicted for a breach of that Act of Parliament ; and, therefore, that Act of Parliament was, in the opinion of the majority of the Court, out of the question » and, therefore, you must rely on the common law obligation of the Magistrates to call the King’s subjects together. That was the conclusion to which the majority of the Court came, that that Act of Parliament was out of the question.” Mr. Attorney-General. — “ I did not understand any such decision had been come to. That the Act of Parliament is out of the question for the purpose of indicting for a particular breach of its provisions, I never doubted ; but I say that the Magistrates ought to put it into the question. It was his duty to inform himself what his powers were, and he would have dis- covered it at once, under the title of Riots, in Burn’s Justice, which no doubt was upon the shelf of every public hall in the city of Bristol. I do not dwell upon that, but if that Act of 361 Parliraent is to be taken as not in existence, because it is not distinctly proved that he was called to look to it in tow r n, then the former Act of Parliament was in existence.” Mr. Justice Park. — “ The objection made was, that you can- not indict a Magistrate for a breach of his duty under that Act, unless he refuses upon the requisition of five persons under the old Act, and of one person under the'new ; and, therefore, you must lay that Act out of the question.” Mr. Attorney-General. — “ It is clear that, if I indicted him, I could not have succeeded, because the requisitions of the Act of Parliament were not carried into effect ; but, I should humbly think, that if there is an Act of Parliament which can be put in motion by a very easy process, by calling upon one inhabitant to come and state what the state of the riot is, and the Mayor does not take that precaution, it is some evidence to shew that he was not so alert in the discharge of his duty as he ought to be. But when my learned friend says you cannot compel the inhabitants to come, because you cannot take them by the hair, and compel them to use muskets, I say that is not a fair use of language; I say, that whether or not he has the physical power to put the law in motion, he ought to inform himself upon the subject — and, under the old Act, he ought to have known that he was capable of calling the citizens together f and that he ought to have insisted on putting that law into force. “ Gentlemen, I am not arguing the question, but I am commenting upon those observations of my learned friend; another of which is, that I am supposed to have said the Mayor was bound to have gone out with ten men, even for the purpose of resisting the mob. Now, did I state any such thing ? Did I say that the Mayor was bound to go out and fight with an in- sufficient force ? What I said was this — and I ask you, for you are judges of what is reasonable, — whether I did not say what was reasonable when I said that he should have kept but ten men together, if no more were to be got, for the purpose of making additions to that small number, and for the purpose of giving time to the returning good seuse of the inhabitants to swell their ranks to a considerable amount. Gentlemen, that is the argument I hold—not that the Mayor was to go out at the head of ten men to destroy and knock down all that might ap- pear before them with that insufficient force. I am in your re- collection, whether I stated such sentiment, and whether I did not actively disavow it ; but I know that I stated the other, namely — that he was bound to keep together whatever force he could — he exercising all along (which I require at his hands) a superintending care over the peace of the city at every moment, at every part. “ Now, Gentlemen, we go a little further, and we find a great complaint about the mode of the prosecution, and the way in which it has been conducted ; — it is said that they have not been fairly dealt with — for, that the Government, in prose- cuting, ought to have called upon Mr. Hare and Mr. Brice, and upon Mr. Burges, and upon Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, as witnesses, to see whether this proceeding should go on ornot. Gentlemen, do you really think so, — that if a prima facie case is made out against a body of Magistrates, you are then to say I will go to those who are most nearly connected with them, and who, them- selves, largely share any blame that may be cast upon them ? In common sense, how would my learned friend have wished me to proceed ? Perhaps, he would have liked me to come to this Court, and apply for a criminal information upon affidavits, and then to have filed, by that double proceeding, an ex-officio information. That, I suppose, would have been the conduct of a tender-hearted Attorney-General. But, on the contrary, finding that a large and respectable meeting of the town of Bristol, thought this enquiry necessary ; the Minis- ters got all the information they could generally, and after- wards sent down their own solicitor to take information from all that could give it ; and the result is, that they bring this case before you for your impartial consideration. “ Then, it seems, that the form of the information is to be very much complained of — and I think my learned friend used the expression “ It is an omnium gatherum information.” Now, I think, I can give him a better expression than that which my learned friend has given me in the Parliamentary Debates, which happened in the year 1830. ‘ The house was aware (it was said) that there had been recently filed against Mr. Alexander three ex-officio informations *, the first was for a 363 libel on Lord Chancellor Lyndhurst — the second for a libel on the Duke of Wellington and his Majesty — and the third was for a libel which he was unable to describe in any other way than by calling it an omnibus libel, or what in cookery was called hodge-podge.’ It was for a libel against so and so, and then the speaker goes on to describe what it is. Now, I dare say, you will trace, by the vein of humour that runs through it, that it was the Recorder of Bristol who was making the observations upon three informations, one of which he called ‘ an omnibus information,’ but it was not mine, for it was filed by the learned Attorney-General who succeeded him in the office, and who now conducts the case of the Bristol Magistrates. “ Now, as to the form of this information, I am disposed to get my learned friend (Mr. Wightman) to defend it, because he might produce one in the same form by Mr. Dampier, in which a Magistrate was indicted for not having done his duty. “ But really, to say that the Mayor of Bristol has been taken by surprise, and that the statement he wrote was one that did not at all suppose, on his part, the possibility of his being in- volved in any charge, is, I think, a little of a piece with the rest of the defence — which, I say, is a defence not resting upon the genuine motives of the men, according to their views at the time, but got up by those legal advisers whom my learned friend thinks that I ought to have called as my witnesses, for them to have poured forth that volley of words which you heard yesterday — and which, I believe, if poured forth at the time of the riots, would have put down any mob, even a Bristol mob. “ But I am also charged with having mis-stated the case of the Mayor of London. I never pretended to state the parti- culars of that case ; but I have some pretty good authority for what I stated, for I have the reasons given by that most vene- rable Judge who began to preside over this trial : ‘ I am old enough,’ said his Lordship, ‘ to remember what mischief was created in this metropolis, while the hands of justice were paralyzed,’ &c. &c. [reads the report of the case.] Mr. Justice Holroyd also happened to state, that the Mayor of London was fined a thousand pounds upon that occasion. Now, I stated, in my opening speech to you, as the information does 364 state, and as it is evident from the defence, that they were perfectly aware that they came to meet such a charge, that the complaint was not of a particular omission, as that of reading the Riot Act, not of a particular declension of duty, at some moment when the discharge of the duty might or might not have been effectual, but a complete desertion of duty from the first to the last, in omitting to do any single act that could, by possibility, call out the citizens, and prompt them to a per- formance of their duty. “ Now, what is it that the charge is ? My learned friend burst out in a very impassioned manner, about whether I meant to charge the Mayor with going to shave during the riots. I do not think I mentioned that at all. I certainly mentioned the withdrawing and retiring from the city ; and upon that subject I shall have a few words to say by and by ; but, upon the subject of any particular act, when I am called upon to say what is your particular charge, do you make it a crime that a man goes to an inn for a few hours, to shave and get a little break- fast? — I say that depends upon circumstances. The question is, whether, by so doing, he abandoned an important duty, that was incumbent upon him at that time. But I did not make the smallest allusion to that circumstance; and it is a little curious, that the fact, only came out upon my learned friend, Mr. Campbell, getting from one of the witnesses, Townsend, his belief as to the fact, whether the Mayor had been to bed or not, and upon which he was bound to say, « I rather think he did go to bed, because the chambermaid told me so.’ So that, then, this, which is treated as evidence of mine, and which is supposed to be my charge, is evidence that they themselves bring out hearsay and upon belief, without being, in any degree, connected with the case I have brought forward. This is the kind of charge which I am required to free myself from ; and, in doing so, to delay your attention so long from the important facts of the case itself. 41 Now, gentlemen, I say, there was a complete dereliction of duty during the Saturday night, and during the whole of Sunday, but more particularly during Saturday night and Monday morning ; and I put this to you, as this proceeding has been made a topic of so much imputation, whether it would 365 have been possible for the Government of England to face the people of England, whom it is bound to protect, if they had not enquired into the conduct of these gentlemen, who are entrusted with the peace of that city ? You will he so good as to recollect, that many outrages were committed ; that many crimes were perpetrated; that some of the authors of those crimes had been brought to an ignominious death ; and that the houses of the city had been saved, almost by miracle, from further conflagration, extensive as that was. You will recollect, that a Court Martial has sat, and, that in more instances than one a Court of Enquiry was appointed into the conduct of the military ; and the conduct of the military and rioters having been thus questioned, is it possible to suppose, that the conduct of the Magistrates should not be called into question too ? I say, therefore, that it is quite inconsistent with the common notion of what is due to the protection of the public, to suppose, that this enquiry should not have takeu place. At the same time, I say, that with regard to imputations against individuals in the Government, who have directed this proceeding, there are no set of men in the country more perfectly uninterested in the result of this trial, than they are. As a party of men, happening to rule the State at this time, there is nothing more indifferent to them than what your verdict may be. As a Government, ruling the country upon important principles, which are to serve as examples for all time, it is important for the Govern- ment, but not more than for you, and every individual placed under this Government, that this case should be calmly and fully understood, before you come to pronounce your verdict upon the evidence. “Therefore, Gentlemen, I beg leave to say, that it appears to me that the prima facie case, as I said before, admits of no doubt whatever. On the part of the King, I ask these Magistrates why it is, that under their immediate observation, his prisons were burned, and the prisoners were let loose ? — why it was that all this dreadful destruction was committed, and why it was that the con- flagration of the city of Bristol proceeded, for so many hours, uninterrupted ? Has not the King a right to an answer upon that subject? Has any man a right to complain, that the Magistrates, who were present all the time, were called upon to 366 give that answer ? Whether the answer may be satisfactory or not, I do not, at this moment, anticipate. I shall come to that by and by ; but that they should be called upon to answer for it, is most evident ; and that such a proceeding should he called a persecution seems to me an abuse of terms, which it is not necessary to expose any further. “Now, I stated three points in this case: first of all, theprima facie case, that is, the case of great desolation and misery produced upon the city ; second, the case of general non-inter- ference on the part of the Magistrates, for the purpose of preventing it; and lastly, the conduct of the Mayor himself, with reference to his own interest and his own safety, on the occasion of that day. “ Having observed, in general terms, on the prima facie case, I will now go to the second point, with reference to the conduct of the Mayor, in which I could not possibly tell beforehand what would be the result of the whole enquiry ; but it is with the highest degree of satisfaction that I am able to express to you, my full and entire conviction, that that personal cowardice which I never imputed, but as to the possibility of which I stated any facts which might afterwards lead to an inference on your part, that I think it is most fully and completely disproved. I give Mr. Pinney full credit for having acted with courage and spirit ; — I think he is much to be compassionated. In many parts of the case that have appeared before you, I think he has not had the best counsel, nor the best example about him ; but 1 think there is much to be said in his favor, even when you shall have pronounced that verdict of Guilty, which, in my humble judgment, it will be your duty to pronounce. “ Upon this particular subject, I am bound to do justice to an individual who did appear before you ; and when I hear a particular man run down as a perjured villain, for stating that before you which he had stated before other parties, I must pause to consider how far it is right to treat that man, Town- send, in that way. You are to consider what his situation was; what interest had he in telling any falsehood to the prejudice of the Mayor? All that he knew of him was entirely in his favor : it was respectful, and it was calculated to excite feelings of good will towards a gentleman in that situation. He was the 367 servant of Mr. Sheriff Lax, and he continued in Mr. Sheriff Lax’s service, long after the time when he was examined by this Committee of Enquiry. Mr. Sheriff Lax desired he would go to the Committee of Enquiry, and tell them what he knew. Now, what possible motive is there in that man to falsify any single fact whatever, with regard to the conduct of the Mayor ? I know that some stuff came out, not of a very pleasant kind, about the geography of the house, which I did not wish for ; but the man tells you that he saw the Mayor escaping upon the leads, and that he helped him up, and that the maid servants were helping him also. Now, what reason has he for stating that, if it is not true ? At the same time, it is perfectly immaterial for that which is the great substance of the case, namely, the conduct of the Mayor with reference to the execution of this duty during that day. But ^jpon the subject of Townsend being a perjured witness, I must, in the first place, say, that I cannot believe it, since Mr. Sheriff Lax sent him before the Committee of Enquiry, to tell what he knew upon the subject of what passed. No question appears to have been put; no person appears to have thrown out any imputation of this sort against him ; and he vouches so many persons, that it is utterly impossible to suppose that he does not speak the truth. “ Now, does he speak the truth about the Saturday evening ? They say they contradict him, by shewing that Col. Brereton was not introduced by him. They prove no such thing ; they call Mr. Hare for the purpose of proving it, but he fails alto- gether. My learned friend has abstained from calling any other Aldermen, because he conceives they are subject to obser- vation as witnesses, but he has not called Mr. Sheriff Bengough. Is it true or not, that this man went into the Recorder’s room, and saw Sheriff Bengough come from behind the Recorder’s bed ? Mr. Sheriff Bengough isnot called to contradict it ; Mr Sheriff Lax is not called, either to negative the fact of his having directed him to go to the Committee of Enquiry, or to state any thing to prejudice this man’s character. Then, I think I have a right to say, that what he has stated is true. “ Then, again, let us look for one moment at what took place in the course of that night. Mr. Daniel is called as a witness to-day, to contradict him upon another point; for he says not 368 I think, that Mr. Fripp’s house was mentioned, as the house to which the Mayor was to go, but that there was some house mentioned which he believed to be Mr. Fripp’s, (abelief naturally arising from the fact that he afterwards knew he was there,) but which might have been Mr. Granger’s, or some other name- Then, if that be so, this contradiction of Mr. Daniel’s as to that fact, becomes much less important than it would have been otherwise. Mr. Daniel says, he came to the door, and he saw this man, and he knew him, though he was first disguised in a sailor’s jacket. There was a little discussion between him and Mr. Daniel, as to whether they knew one another, and he said, ‘ I know you very well, I have waited upon you at the Mon- tague ;* and, at that time the Mayor was standing before the door. Now, is it in the least probable, that having recognised Mr. Daniel, he should fail to recognise the Mayor ? He was the Sheriff's servant, and the Mayor was frequently coming to the Sheriff’s house ; he waited upon the Major every day they had a dinner, and he had actually been at the house at the time of the tumult, upon the night before, and in the morning, at the time of the Mayor’s escape, because, although Major Mack- worth and Mr. Gibbons say, they did not see him there at the time of the Mayor’s escape, yet Mr. Humphries, who is a per- fectly unimpeached witness, and who lives at the next door, positively swears, that at the time of the Mayor's escape, Townsend was upon the spot. Now, is there any sort of pro- bability that, when the conversation was begun between Mr. Daniel and Townsend, as to their personal acquaintance, and that when Townsend saw standing behind him so important a person as the Mayor, that some little conversation should not take place between those two, about their knowledge of one another. Mr. Daniel says he firmly believes that; but the circumstance is, in itself, perfectly trivial. It has only become important, as rescuing this man from the charge of perjury; but, do you believe that such a thing would have made any impression upon your minds, which you could remember at the end of a twelvemonth ? But this view of the case is much confirmed by the fact of that particular warning, wfiich Townsend says he received from the Mayor with regard to some house to which they were going, and of which notice had been 369 given, but to a stranger whom they met almost immediately before, for they met a stranger and they sent the stranger to the Council-house, and they told him not to mention they were going to the house o; Mr. Granger. Mr. Daniel says, ‘ I did not know that the Mayor was going to Mr. Fripp’s,’ — he says, ‘ I intended in my own mind to carry him to Clifton. * But do you think that he meaut that when he was with him at Mr. Lax's door, because the Mayor’s object was to make himself known to the Corporation, as he stated to Mr. Brice, and Mr. Burges, and Mr. Hare, who all come to him very soon after, iu consequence of the requisition sent by the stranger. — Then Mr. Daniel says, ‘ I could not tell him anything of that sort, because I meant to take him to Clifton. What ! mean to take him to Clifton and leave word that he was gone to Mr. Granger’s ? Is that possible ? It cannot be. It was clearly necessary that the Mayor should give notice to the Members of the Corporation where he was ; and wherever he then intended to be, I have no doubt that he gave that information. In the first place, the stranger did not direct them to Mr. Fripp’s, but to Mr. Granger’s. Then what reason is there to suppose that they did not after- wards alter their mind wheu they found that the Mayor was unwilling to go to Clifton, for that will at once solve the whole problem, and then this evidence of Townsend’s becomes the plain truth •, and admits, in my humble judgment, of no doubt whatever. “ Now, as to the personal conduct of the Mayor I have very little that I wish to observe upon. I certainly do think that here, as elsewhere, there was a shrinking from that just responsibility which he ought to have taken upon himself. — He might be fatigued, but still it was his duty to be, as he said he was, all the time at his post; and I am quite at a Joss to know why it was that they left the Bishop’s Palace and the Recruiting Office. What danger there was, I am at a loss to discover, for 1 have not heard of any, not the slightest cry against Mr. Pinney, and I am quite at a loss to know why he should make off at that particular period. “ Now it is remarkable how this odd unwillingness to meet responsibility betrays itself even at this moment ; for Mr. Daniel C C 370 says, ‘ We went into the centre of College-green, and he then said to me, Mr. Daniel I have done all that could occur to me to do, can you suggest anything.’ Now, that is what I com- plain of him, for that he could see no human creature without saying to him can you suggest anything for me to do — have you any plan, an engineer’s plan, or anything ? My ccmplaint is r that a Magistrate ought to have known what his duty was, and I state, that his duty was to have got together and organized as soon as he could, either by hiring or by summoning and com- manding, a force that might be employed in quelling these furious and atrocious riots; for I beg to have it understood that I do not in the least mean to diminish the horrors and atrocities of these riots, or to palliate in the smallest degree what was going on. I must own, that I do not think it was so bad a riot in the first place, as it has been represented to be, because I cannot conceive that my two learned friends, Sir Charles Wetherell and Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, in looking out of the window at a late hour of the day, should have expressed their conviction that the military ought not to be called out, if it was such a riot as has been represented, and surely we have too mnch discretion to suppose that when we talk of the military being called out, it necessarily meant that military execution should be inflicted. It meant that they should be there, as Lord Melbourne told the Magistrates, for the purpose of aiding and assisting those who did something for themselves by that Civil Force which the Mayor was to call out, and which the military were to assist. “ Then, I submit to you, that upon the Saturday evening there was considerable neglect. As to the state of the riot at that time, they speak of it as alarming — they speak of a man taking straw and putting it into the room, plainly for the purpose of setting fire to the Mansion-house. Now, whatever may be said about the unpopularity of the Corporation, I cannot conceive that that is at all to excuse a Magistrate from doing what he could do. It is not enough to say, that if he had exerted him- self, he could not have succeeded ; he ought to have exerted himself in the use of the means placed in his hands. Now, what were those means ? On the evening of the Saturday, Colonel Brereton had been in there, and you heard the opinion he had given. It seems to be admitted by my learned friend that it was so, that he had undertaken to clear the streets with_ out violence, and he had, in point of fact, done so. Why, we cannot but pause for a moment, and think how strong must have been the impression upon the mind of every one of those Magistrates, that that tumult was at an end when such a report was made by a military man. But though the tumult was over, the alarming symptoms had appeared again. When, in the morning, they broke out again in the shape of attacks upon the windows, and the security of the Mansion-house, and they were beginning to collect again in the same furious manner — I say that even then it was too late to begin, for they ought to have begun during night to call upon the special constables to return — and they ought to have called upon every man to do his duty, whether he was inclined to do so or uot. I complain, then, of the apathy that prevailed in the Magistrates at that period. I complain that the Mayor called upon no citizen till half-past nine or ten o’clock, and I complain that he did not use that authority which alone would have been effectual. Union was required. It is ridiculous to say to Mr. Waring, or to Mr. Reynolds — why did not you go into the mob and seize the man ? What one man could not do, a large force might have done, or even a moderate force might have done. Some hundreds called together, might have been competent to make a beginning, and then the smallest shew of a military force to assist them, would have been, no doubt, sufficient to have put down that riot. Many persons think that that would have been sufficient upon the Saturday. Mr. Hellicar thinks so, their own witness. Why did not they try the experiment of a civil forceuponthe Sunday morning ? Will they say that they believe the whole town of Bristol was disaffected ? It is a most strange and extraordinary defence, which I will observe upon more hereafter. But I say that they ought to have called on every man to come and assist as a constable. Instead of merely intreating the inhabitants to meet them at the Guildhall, in order to assist them in devising measures, they chose to throw themselves on their knees before those whom they ought to have commanded to come together with such arms as they could procure. But they think Cc2 372 proper to say, ‘ I shall be much obliged to you to tell me what you think’ — and then, when there are certain plans suggested, those who suggest them are treated as prating fellows for doing the very thing the Magistrates requested they would do. Can anything be more evident, than that, if you collect a variety of people together, they will not agree in their plans ? Some will be for the military, and some against the military; and, therefore, it is the voice of authority that is required to compel them by any lawful mode to proceed at once to do that which is is evidently necessary to do at once. I do not say that, at that very period, they were capable of raising a force sufficient to do that; but I ask you, as honest men, to tell me whether you can doubt that, at several periods of that Sunday, if the Ma- gistrates had really been at their post, and had really collected that civil force which was within their reach, they might not have made a great impression upon that mob, and have rescued many of the houses before they got the third side of the Square ? “ Gentlemen, look at the events of that day ; when parties go to the Guildhall, there is no Magistrate there, or only one — there is no assemblage of Magistrates ; at last they came, under the earnest entreaty of their friends. There is a great deal of talking going on, and a great deal of very unadvised and inconsiderate talking, because Colonel Brereton was not to be directed in the way he was. They were not to look at the military as their only resource — they were not to command him peremptorily to bring back the 14th, when it appears that, upon his own explanation, they were satisfied that he was right. It was, I think, a rash proceeding. It is impossible not to lament the course that was taken. It is with pain that I speak with censure of any of those parties — God knows, that I do not wish to aggravate the case against them, but I think it is unfortunate that there was a tone of that nature constantly as- sumed by the Magistrates. Then they adopted the expedient of sending to places of worship — but say, in the first place, it was too late, — and I say it was not the tone in which they ought to have acted. They say the town was disaffected — was it suffi- cient then to entreat? They say that political feelings ran high— -was it right, then, to rely upon any plan that private 373 parties might devise for the purpose ? Now, ouly look at the succession of events ; Mr. Waring states to you that he went by the Magistrates’ desire to the Mansion-house, and that there he pursuaded the mob in a great measure to disperse, but that they said they should then go to the Bridewell and release the prisoners, and then to the Gaol. Now, were the Magistrates left in ignorance of that? On the contrary, Mr. Waring im- mediately informed them that the mob were going to the Bride- well to release the prisoners ; but the mob had not then come. What stepswere taken ? Was the Bridewell a defensible place, or was it not ? I say that the Bridewell is proved, in the clearest manner, to have been a place that might have been defended by a very few, even much more defensible than the Council-house, for it has twice as many windows. “ Now I say, that he should have endeavoured to have saved that Bridewell — only conceive, here was a strong prison, a stone building, a gaol on one side of a narrow passage and the Gover- nor’s house on the other, and gates at each end of that passage. Is there any thing more easy, in the first place, than to have closed those gates, and placed a small civil force within ? Is it not clear that it is a place to be easily defended ? and, if there had been five constables at the one end, and five at the other, I ask you if the mob could have forced their way in ? and, if these men had gone with their staves, and Colonel Brereton had been strongly and distinctly called upon to take such dragoon guards as he had, to shew them, and, in case of necessity to have used them, do you mean to say that the Bridewell might not have been saved ? “You have had the most respectable persons called before you, against whom you have not heard the slightest reproach, except that they are Catholics or Dissenters ; I wish we had had more of the Established Church on the other side. I like the orthodox specimen we have had in Mr. Bulwer; he is evidently a brave and strong minded man ; but those gentlemen whom we have called, state that if a body of men, even a small body of constables, had been brought against the mob at the Bride- well, they could have made an impression; that there were men, women, and children, amongst the mob, and when the mob was at the Bridewell, one of the witnesses we have called 374 has said, he should have had no difficulty in walking through it. Then was that a place that admitted of defence or not? I say that it was, and that they had full notice of it, but it is not pretended, in any quarter whatever, that they ever made one slight attempt to defend it. They spoke to Colonel Brereton, but that was some hours afterwards, when the storming was complete, and the Bridewell in a blaze. It is not enough for them to say that Colonel Brereton hung back ; they have not ventured to put it in their statement. “ These poor dragoon guards have been made the subject of a great deal of wit and merriment, and something out of the Edinburgh Review my learned friend has thought it worth while to bring up. These dragoons are supposed to have taken their degrees at Paris. Gentlemen, they did their duty, as is now admitted by Major Mackworth ; but when the Corporation had allowed the mob to get that head, it was the interest of the dragoons to shake hands with them. These Magistrates can find opportunities to get their mutton chops and glasses of wine* and yet they expect these men to sit upon their horses for a great number of hours, without any food ; and if they had not got this little sustenance from the people, there was no where else for them to get it. “ Gentlemen, that is my first charge, — that they made no attempts to save the Bridewell. If the Magistrates had ordered the soldiers and the civil force they had to go down to protect that place, that Gaol would have been saved. Other persons might have thought that the walls were strong enough, and that the gates could not be destroyed ; but I say, it was the duty of every Magistrate, and particularly of Mr. Pinney, to call upon those persons to act who came to offer their assist- ance, and who shewed, by their language and their conduct, that they were willing to give every assistance that could be required at their hands. Gentlemen, that is my first charge ; and it appears upon the information. Do not let me hear of a net being spread to catch innocence ; it is in the information that they let the Bridewell be burnt, and they are prepared to give such evidence as they can, to shew that it was not feasible. “ Then, gentlemen, the second case is as to the Gaol : they had previous notice of the Gaol ; they were told of both at the 375 same time, but the destruction of the Gaol was commenced after the attack upon the Bridewell was over. Now, was the Gaol a defensible place? It stood upon an island, — you could only get at it by drawbridges ; why did not the Magistrates turn the drawbridges? It seems that there is a ship-yard, and they had not the command of the property, or the leave of the owner. Gentlemen, they had no business to wait for that. No man would have thought of it who was aware of his duty, but when the Gaoler comes to ask for advice and assistance, as to what he is to do, in that time of danger, think what a question for a gaoler to put to his employers, and that he should be sent away- sunk in despondency, and only told, that if he thought the mob would be appeased by letting out the rioters, he might do it. Is that a proper thing, gentlemen? I do not know that Mr. Pinney put it so, but my learned friend has, and has told you, that it was a case for the individual responsibility of the Gaoler. Is a mob to be satisfied with concession that reinforces it with prisoners? What are we talking of? Are we talking about men of common sense and experience? I say it was their duty to send and see whether they could turn the bridges, before they allowed them to pass over, and then a very few men, with staves in their hands, would have been sufficient to defend the place, which is admitted to be one of very extraordinary strength. “ Now, gentlemen, I do not wish to withhold any part of this case. I am aware that two Magistrates afterwards did shew very great spirit, but they do not appear to have understood each other; and that is another thing I complain of. You have no connected plan of operations; at one time they go before the military force arrives, and at another time they come afterwards. If they had gone together; if they had told Col. Brereton, ‘ we are going to this gaol, and we call upon you for the assistance of the soldiers,’ there would have been a great probability of that assistance having been given. The place admitted of an easy defence, and it is entirely neglected : that is a part of the charge I make against them. “Then, gentlemen, what do they do at the Palace? They do not go there, at any rate, till the mob had got such a head that it was impossible to make any impression upon it, and they gave no notice to the soldiers of their intention to come. “Then the Mansion-house was fired, and the Custom-house, and the Excise-office, and forty private houses, one af ter another, during that long night, hy a mob intoxicated and divided by plunder and violence, and not under very favorable circum- stances, the rain lasting all day ; and yet there is no attempt to dislodge them, during that long time, until five in the morning. “ Gentlemen, it is admitted they did nothing ; but then there are various defences made. One rests upon the great unpopu- larity of the Corporation, that they had been so extremely disliked by those over whom they governed, that they could not expect that they should get any good assistance from them. Now, gentlemen, I cannot believe that, — however a Corporation may be unpopular, they have great influence, they have great connexions, and many dependants, by reason of the property they possess, and the pre-eminencies they are able to bestow ; and to say that they had no party iu the town, is to say, what I have no doubt Mr. Hellicar has heard, for the first time, from his own lips. In a borough town, that has a wealthy Corpora- tion, it is impossible but that there should be strong feelings in their favor, but they did not look to the friends that they might have relied upon. Have you any doubt there were persons connected with them, in various ways, who would have come to their assistance, if they had been called upon? Suppose they had been told, ‘ the Mansion-house is threatened with fire, and the mob are proceeding, in the same way, to attack other pro- pert) , we call upon you to come and render us your defence and assistance — is there any doubt that there would have been many in the town ready to do that, who were most strongly connected with the Corporation : the only possible reason for their hanging back is, that they may say, ‘we felt a degree of attachment to you, but we were not aware of your danger.’ Then they should have been informed of it, and notices should have been issued to bring them to the spot, to resist the rioters. “Then, it is said, not only the Corporation was unpopular, but the whole city was indisposed to give any assistance, and we hear about the Reform, and Reformers, and Dissenters. My learned f riend reminds me of the question of re-action. Now, upon that I will only say, that it has been proved by Mr. Hare, that the mob thought that Sir Charles Wetherell had said, in 377 the House of Commons, that there was a great re-action in Bristol. If he did say so it was a great misfortune, and no little indiscretion, because, fora person not representing a place in Parliament, but representing a place in a remote part of the country, and connected only by judicial ties, and who ought to have been known only as a judge, for him to answer for a re-action in the public sentiments in Bristol, was unfortunately a challenge for that sentiment to betray itself, in a way that persons are sometimes apt to resort to ; it is a great misfortune, and a great indiscretion, and I cannot state it in any other terms. If the Magistrates were aware of that, it was the more their bounden duty to guard against it, and to get together what force they could, which they saw there might be a necessity for; and no doubt there was a great body of citizens attached to their cause, who would have been ready to have come forward, and assist in defending the Corporation property. But, it is said the Reformers are another class, extremely unwilling to enter into this, and they were not to be supposed as likely to defend the Corporation property ; they were the enemies of the Corporation. Gentlemen, what a curious aro-u- ment that is, when we see who did assist. The witness, Mr. Newcombe, who is a brave man, gave up his whole time, from the first to the last : he says he is a Reformer, and so'strongly a reformer, that he would not interfere to prevent the shew of public spirit against the supposition of a re-action ; but he did go out to save the Mansion-house, when it was attacked. Look at Mr. Shepherd, Mr. Selfe, Mr. Reynolds, and several others, all men of that opinion, and of that class ; and, amongst others, Mr.Waring, of whom I hope you will permit me to say a word or two, as his name has been mentioned in connection with mine. I may say, that having heard of Mr. Waring, in the House of Com- mons, so far from feeling any shame from having corresponded with him, I sincerely hope, that this occasion, painful as it may be, will ensure me the friendship of Mr. Waring as long as I live. I have the highest respect for him *, and, I think there is nothing that has passed from him, thatshews he is not entitled to great respect. He was an active man, going to the Magis- trates, and giving them useful information, and ready to risk his own personal safety. Was he rejected ? Did not the Mayor 378 ask him to go and assist them, and to suggest his plan ? He did suggest it ; and then you are to have a great attack made upon his evidence, because there was some hesitation in his stating what cannot be fully justified, and which Mr. Waring, from his manner, evidently felt sorry he had done, upon the occasion. But what is a man to do when he is called upon for a plan, in a desperate case ? The Magistrates tell him they cannot get the military, and he sees that they cannot get any civil force, but they are ready to hear what Mr. Waring suggests ; he had just run from the Mansion-house, and seeing there that the mob is more dense than the parties would be willing to contend with, he suggests what is very culpable, and it is plain he thought so. But is a man to be censured because he happens to give the first thing that occurs to his mind ? If a man has read any thing in a book, or heard an anecdote of something having succeeded upon some former occasion, that is the thing that occurs to him ; and this thing of burning Sir Charles Wetherell in effigy occurred to his mind, and he was unwilling to divulge it here, without making an apology. But he went and gave his infor- mation ; and, if it had been acted upon, it might have saved the city from damage, because you will remember, if once a resist- ance is made, in the presence of numerous parties, the first step is the example that induces others to join, and the want of that first step is the cause of the mob ultimately getting too great a head, and afterwards being so difficult to put down. “ Some observations have been made upon Dr. Carpenter, — did you ever hear of more activity ? — a gentleman venerable in the highest degree for all his excellent qualities — well known to the public as one of the first of teachers and one of the most learned and ingenious writers, — a gentleman in every sense of the word, making a sacrifice, making himself the slave and the messenger of the Corporation. The young men feel themselves overpowered and want some assistance, and how is he received ? He is told ‘ Oh ! the Magistrates cannot be every where at once — two are gone to the Goal, and we shall not have a quorum if any more go,” — the witnesses have not been questioned as to that. Gentlemen, what does that mean ? I do not understand it — they were not wanted for a quorum — it was not a Bench of Magistrates deciding upon the settlement of a pauper, but they 379 were to preserve the public peace — they had all co-ordinate authority, the Mayor having superior rank, and therefore, he is brought first before a Jury. This gentleman goes backward and forwards and he speaks to the Magistrates, but the mob are still proceeding in the work of destruction ; and I ask you whether it is possible to believe that that witness has not laid before you the true state of the mob, and that it might have been put down several times? Mr. Edgeworth tells you, that with his partner, Mr. O'Farrell, he went to offer his services, and he tells you that the manner in which the offer was received was quite enough to prevent him coming forward with any suggestion. Mr. Roberts states, that he addressed his congre- gation, and that he went to offer his assistance — he proposed speaking to the mob. So that from seven o’clock on Sunday morning till six o’clock on Sunday night, nothing was done but to send Mr. Roberts to induce the mob to go, when it is proved he could not address them they had become so violent. This also proves another thing, that there was great confusion and absurdity in their councils, and not that sort of spirit which ought to have been brought to the occasion when the riot was raging in so violent a manner. — Mr. Lock is there, Mr. Protheroe and Mr. Jenkins; I do not know what party they are of; and there were numerous other parties going to offer their assistance, and that assistance the Mayor and Magistrates did not avail themselves of in the slightest degree. “ Gentlemen, it occurs to me now, to mention the pensioners — the pensioners ought to have been called out. Major Mack- worth gave notice that three hundred were in the town of Bristol — upon former occasions they had been called out, and entrusted with arms. It appears there is a difference of opinion as to permitting the use of arms in the hands of persons not accustomed to them. I do not deny that there may be danger in it, but it is infinitely less than that of leaving the mob unop- posed ; but these pensioners were accustomed to them, and I should like to know why they were not told that arms would be furnished to them, and that they might go into the crowd without any objection. You are aware that two have been called who did go — that their companions called them together, and told them that they might go, and perhaps earn a few 380 shillings, by doing a loyal act for the Corporation ; they went, and their services were shaken off. “ Then, Gentlemen, is this a town so entirely destitute of all spirit as to stand by and see the Mansion-house burned because it is Corporation property, and that they do not shrink from it, because it is private property ? Mr. Selfe was the first person who expressed that sentiment— but what was the line he followed ? It was Miss Vigor’s house, and when there was a great cry and lamentation at that house being pulled down, and that there were ill-conditioned people in the mob, wicked enough to speak of it with joy. But when it was asked whether the Magistrates had not an interest in protecting their property, had not the citizens the same interest ? Was it to be supposed that, when the mob had once got a taste for blood and slaughter, that they would stop with Coiporation property ? Mr. Cooke goes away disgusted and dispirited at the want of any organiza- tion or plan exhibited by the Magistrates in calling upon the citizens to proceed with a proper degree of spirit iu the pro- tection of their own rights. “ There is, also, another class of persons upon whom I wish to make some remark — it is supposed something extraordinary is meant by the name Political Union — directly it is mentioned there is a movement, ‘ Oh ! Political Union !’ as if that class of persons were destitute of the feelings of men. I admit there is fear, and I have no doubt it would have been so if it had been a question between Sir Charles Wetherell and those whom he thought fit to bring a charge of re-action against — that many of them might have held back, and I am not sure that many of them might not have gone further, but are you to suppose they would pursue that course when the lives and fortunes of all are in danger ? You have the answer in Mr. Herapath himself, you have him at the Gaol addressing the men in the execution of their lawless proceedings, and telling them they are their own enemies — and then who are the persons resorted to ? Mr. Hare employs Mr. Herapath to hire the members of this very Union to come and assist in restoring the tranquillity of the town. Why were not they tried the day before, when Mr. Herapath was doing all in his power to prevent them committing these outrages ? It was worth while, then, to see whether that 381 was not the proper time — but, at all events, it shews there was no indisposition on the part of the people to repress the mischief. Mr. Edgeworth particularly expresses that, that in the multitude that surrounded the mob, committing the outrages, many expressed their regret, and there might have heen£many called upon by the authority of the Magistrates to come for- ward, but their authority was not exerted in that direction. Nay, more, there is no proof that any person was stationed by the Magistrates in Queen-square to report the proceedings to them as they went on. I know it will be said, as to the Political Unions, that Mr. Harmar saw people keeping the peace who had been committing destruction the day before, and that would be a re-action certainly, which they were bound to watch for. Were they to say, 4 you would not help us to preserve our property, and we will not help you to preserve yours r* And, I was sorry for the sentiment that Major Mackworth avowed, that for want of proper exertions at the same time, that he knew but little of the exertions used, for he was away the o-reat part of the Sunday ; that he went to bed at eight or nine in the evening, and left the parties to come to their senses, and wait till the town was burnt, or further mischief was done, and then they would probably come forward and defend the Magistrates. I know there are sometimes such feelings in people’s minds ; — let them go on, they will not be better before they are worse. It is necessary to make out a case for the military to come in, and if that was the object, undoubt- edly the best means were taken to procure it, for there are no means of dispensing with the services of the military so effec- tual as strong exertions to compel the action of the civil force in the first instance. I should have stated that there is no com- plaint made of that; the Mayor was bound to tell the Secre- tary of State all that occurred ; he was bound to state the causes of the mischief, and he does write to Lord Melbourne, but that was after the meeting had been held — after the mer- chants and principal men of Bristol had determined that there should be something done, and that meeting came to very strong resolutions. The Mayor writes to Lord Melbourne, to state what took place, and he does not make one complaint against the soldiers or the Political Unions, or of any unwil- 382 lingness on the part of the inhabitants, particularly the fact as to the Political Union. That was what the Secretary of State ought to have known, if it had been true : they keep him in ignorance upon that, because they knew they had no ground of complaint upon that subject. Mr. Harmar was a marked man, it is plain to any one : you saw how he gave his evidence ; did you see what it was that provoked his laughter ? He said ? ‘ when we had made two prisoners in the Mansion-house, I was for despatching them,’ and that produced laughter on the part of Mr. Harmar, and some of those who listened to the evi- dence. Is a person who talks in that way, that when he has secured two men he is for despatching them, to be surprised if he receives an intimation from the crowd that they do not approve of his conduct: it is not in humau nature; it is not in the lower orders, who perhaps feel that their lives may be sacrificed by a rash order given, or by casting the reponsibility upon the military. “ Gentlemen, I believe I have now done with all the classes supposed to be so inimical to the Corporation, that they will not come forward to defend their own property. But only see, after Miss Vigor’s house was condemned you have house after house condemned to the number of thirty, and every one of them was in the jurisdiction of the Magistrates. Suppose you had owned one of them, and had been absent at the time, and the Magistrates had retired, one at nine o’clock to bed, and the others to some other places, I think you would have had a just right to complain ; and I will never cease to say, that those unhappy men who were executed for the commission of crimes, so encouraged, have fallen victims to the apathy of the Magis- trates — it is the impression upon my mind, and I am bound to declare it, entertaining it honestly, — I say their encouragement of the crime by not resisting it by all the means which they had, as Magistrates, possessed, does divide the responsibility with those men, the victims of the law, or of carrying it into effect. “ Gentlemen, let us now enquire a little about some other parts of the case, upon which we were to have some contradic- tions. There are two Serjeants brought before you. At the Council-house there was another meeting at half-past three, and 383 the same weakness, the same irresolution or the same resolution to face no responsibility is manifested — they called upon no man to act at all, but when certain gentlemen expressed their wish to go to the Bishop’s Palace, the Mayor is called upon to lead them — he expresses his willingness to do so — he appears at the door and on the stairs, as if about to lead them, and he actually returns to the room and does not proceed at their head. I acquit him most fully of all those base motives im- puted to him, but it must have proceeded from this wretched irresolution and vacillation of purpose. Is it not clear, that it was the disposition of that party to make resistance, and few and dispirited as they were* is it not clear that they were ready to have resisted, and that they expected to be led on by the Mayor even to a personal conflict with the rioters ? It is said, that a Magistrate is not bound to expose his person. You are Magistrates, — is that whatyou lay down to yourselves? I am to be in the recesses of my Council-house or my muniment room, and I am to take care to stay away. I, as commander-in-Chief, do not come forward. Then let them act as Commanders-in- Chief; let them not submit their plans to eypry wild inexpe- rienced man that comes among them, but let the prisoners be released — let them act in some way either as Commanders or soldiers. I say, a Magistrate may be bound to expose his person, and I heard nothing with more surprise than that con- ference between Mr. Serjeant Ludlow and Colonel Brereton. ‘ If I take ray men among the mob they will be sacrificed.’ — ‘ Is that a soldier’s reason,' says Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, ‘ do you ob- ject to expose the lives of your men ?’ I have no doubt thal in mounting a breach, Col. Brereton would have sacrificed his life without hesitation ; but when he is called upon to put his fellow citizens to death with the sword, I ask you, whether his answer is not a reasonable and just one in saying, that th*e soldiers’ lives are not to be needlessly exposed ; — and is he not right in this observation, — if I should go and disperse the mob, what would you gain — it would only be a single successful charge while the whole Civil Force is kept back from acting, and we should not be able to maintain the position ? I think it was a very just view that Colonel Brereton took. Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, it appears, at one time had suspicions that other persons enter- 384 tained, that Colonel Brereton was either a traitor or a coward, and I presume, it was under that impression that that statement was made to Lord Hill, in which no blame is taken by the Magistrates, but they are supposed to be at their posts. My learned friend says, * I impute blame to nobody, but I beg to ask whether the soldiers were properly directed to discharge their duty.’ It is some satisfaction to think, that Colonel Brereton’s memory receives this tardy vindication. That he was no traitor, is now perfectly clear — that he was no coward, was proved during the course of the proceedings — he had taken no degree in the University of Paris; he came forward to do what he thought was best for the public service, and it is not denied, that up to a late period he did what was the best, and when Mr. Hellicar is finding fault with him for not firing upon the mob on the Saturday evening, he would have done a most absurd and most mischievous thing if he had fired, as well as most cruel and inhuman. It is said, that the military were made an essential party in any common acting, and Mr. Serjeant Ludlow tellsyou bethought it notwise to inform the citizens that the mili- tary had departed. If the citizens did not know it, could anything be more reasonable then for them to say, ‘ Colonel Brereton is under your orders, the 14th dragoons are under his, and why are we to expose ourselves, without the assistance of the military to back us ?’ If they did know the 14th dragoons were gone, it was the more necessary for the Magistrates to exert more spirit, and take care there should be nothing deficient in calling upon that strong physical force, which even the physical powers of the men called before you prove to be very considerable, and which would have been backed by hundreds of the people, where they could have had a chance of succeeding. “ Gentlemen, with regard to the Recruiting-office, you recol- lect what has been stated by the two serjeants. I am stating this as shewing that the Mayor was thinking too much about himself, and too little about the public peace; and that charge it is impossible for me not to make, and I call upon you to consider the evidence that proves it. It is proved that, about six o’clock, those two soldiers saw the Mayor; that one was placed as a sentry to watch, and the other heard the conver- sation, and heard a request to know how they might escape. I 385 will call this to your recollection; the argument on the other side is, that they could not do so ; that there was no danger* and that therefore he could not ask any body to contrive his escape. The last thing Mr. Serjeant Ludlow said, in his evi- dence, was that when he was in the office, and at a particular time, there was a talk of the mob coming to the Bishop’s-palace. Was that no danger ? Was not that the only danger that could ever come upon them at that time? Upon the second occasion, it is admitted, that they left the office, in great apprehension ; and I am, at this moment, at a loss to know why that was not a place of safety, as much as any other place in the town ; it was very central, and near the military, and very unlikely to be attacked ; there was no plunder to be got at the Recruiting- office, and if the mob and the soldiers were to come in collision, they were not likely to ride them down ; and it is not pretended, at any time, that any threats were uttered against them. I think there was something unfortunate, at that particular period. I cannot understand why the Mayor did not remain in the office ; and if he did not remain there, why he did not go to the Council-house; why should he be asking Mr. Daniel whether he had any plan to suggest ? There had been something like a plan adopted; they had agreed to defend the Council-house, locking themselves in, keeping themselves unknown to the mob. I cannot account for it. I have heard no reason given for it. Mr. Daniel says, he passed backwards and forwards without any molestation, in the streets ; and I do not see why it was not as safe as Park-street, or Berkeley -square. But, gentlemen, what a material matter this is ; Mr. Daniel thinks this occurred about nine o’clock ; whereas, it was twelve when he wrote that letter. What in the world was to be done by an officer, or any body who might want the Mayor in the interim, between leaving the office, and finding his way to Mr. Fripp’s, in Berkeley-square ? Nay, more than that, until the time that the chance messenger had told Mr. Brice and Mr. Burges, and others, where he was likely to be found, — suppose you had gone there with your troop of yeomanry, imitating the gallant conduct of Captain Codrington, what would have been your feelings, if on coming into the town, instead of finding, by your messenger, a quarter- master, you were doomed to knock at different doors, and D (1 386 look in all quarters for a Magistrate, without being able to find one ? I charge it upon the Mayor, as a terrible dereliction of duty, that he had not found means to make it perfectly known where he would be found in the interval between leaving the office, and his return to the Council-house ; it was doubtful whether his letter ever would arrive ; it appears Colonel Brereton did not get it; it came to some other officer. The Council- house people got the intelligence, but it came through the hands of a messenger, a stranger to them ; and, during that terrible interval, while houses were burning by an uninterrupted mob there were in the town 58 men, capable and willing to put that mob down, if they could but have found a Magistrate, and and in that period no Magistrate was to be found, I do not ask you whether that is conduct that can be called praiseworthy? The Mayor had, no doubt, retired from fatigue; but there were eleven of them, and the Magistrates should have fixed upon their head-quarters ; they had stationed themselves at the Council- house to make a defence, but nobody knew where they were, and they were removed, from an opportunity of giving any directions as Magistrates. At three o’clock in the morning, when a further request is made, they send their answer, ‘ I fully authorize Colonel Brereton, or any other officer, to go and quell the riots so that they gave an opportunity of having a charge made by the military, the necessity of which they are not, in the least degree, in the capacity of forming a judgment upon. That is my complaint; not that their lenity was too great, but that their course might have led to the commission of murder, in many instances, while they took care to avoid all responsibility, and for which the soldiers were to be made answerable, and for which, perhaps, they could not have been defended. And here I will allude to the case of Captain Lewis being tried, without the defence of the Government. Captain Lewis was tried for manslaughter, and acquitted ; that was a clear and distinct case ; he wanted no assistance, and asked none, nor would it have been proper to give it if asked ; there- fore, let us get rid of that. But suppose Major Beckwith had gone and made a charge in the Square, and a jury thought it uncalled for by the circumstances, what would he have had to shew, as a warrant for his act ? Could he have produced a letter 337 from the Magistrate, you are to charge and kill where you think proper; you have given me no authority ; none. You have avoided it. But Major Beckwith, like a man of honor and spirit, did take the responsibility upon himself; he did find what he conceived a sufficient necessity, and what, in the first instance, was perfectly sufficient to justify the course he took* but the Magistrates had done nothing to put him in a situation to avail himself of their j udgment ; they were at a distance from the spot. “ Gentlemen, I may be allowed to say, that Major Beckwith went afterwards, and saw the Magistrates ; and he then saw a dis- position on their part, not disputed on the part of any one, which is a key to the whole of their proceedings, and amounts to the whole extent of the motive I mean to impute to the Mayor. Major Beckwith, though he does not think it necessary, thinks it highly desirable that he should possess the authority of a Magistrate; he finds several assembled ; he asks them in turn; the answer of one is, * Oh ! I shall be unpopular ;’ another, ‘Oh ! I shall have my property destroyed ;’ or ‘ My shipping will be destroyed ; we have given you written orders, and you will go and execute them as you think necessary, at the time.’ I may mention that the Major is now satisfied that he was mistaken, as to one gentleman he named, Mr. Alderman Abraham Hil- house ; he is convinced he was wrong in believing he uttered the particular expression imputed to him ; but, on that occasion, those gentlemen were collected together, and they were required to go out by the Major, to see the necessity of his exercising his sword, and every one refused. He was a perfect stranger to all; known to none of them ; coming from a distance ; none of them had any means of knowing him, and they are ready to send him to a distance, to a place where they knew nothing about what was going on. “ Gentlemen, I ask for an account of what was done that night. I ask what the Magistrates did, between leaving the office, and when Major Beckwith cleared the streets? Did they do any one thing that Major Beckwith might not have done without their authority, and which Captain Codrington would have done, if he could have found any one of them ? It is not because the riot has been raging, and the Riot Act has been read twenty- D (1 2 388 four hours ago, that that gives the sword any license against the people ; it must at that moment be necessary for the dispersion of the rioters. I say it was not necessary ; in many instances, they were not all rioters, but plunderers; and the plunderers might have been arrested by the soldiers, and the rioters put down, if assembled in force, as they are at last put down, after a delay of many hours, and which Captain Codrington would have rendered unnecessary, by the common operation of the law. “ Gentlemen, it is dreadful to think of Captain Codrington thus wandering about these streets, in search of those who would have authorized those proceedings, which would have rendered all effusion of blood unnecessary. It is mainly and particularly, for neglecting to watch their opportunity to turn the tide, and keep together such a force, as when the citizens came to their senses and became sober, was an adequate force for the suppression of the riot; it is upon that I am justified in asking for your verdict against that gentleman, the first Magis- trate of this devoted city. Not even the 300 constables were kept together ; no application is made to any set of men, the Irishmen or the firemen ; nothing is arranged in the way of defence ; you have nothing but that vague and unsatisfactory evidence that there were, as how should there not be, numerous persons, who were expressing themselves in vile and malignant intentions towards their betters. Never was there a crowd in which that feeling was not expressed, and never was there a mob of Bristol, at which you could not find a swell mob, with their silk stockings. What is the number of the swell mob there ? I should like to know. They were prevented carrying the plunder away, and it had almost ceased to be a mob before Major Beck- with came, and finally dispersed them ; they were not even numerous, at the last period ; they were dropping off from intox- ication and plunder, and I presume, from the rain and weariness, and all those other circumstances that were sure to arise, and which did arise, but arose for no benefit to the city, unless there was a vigilant Magistrate, ready to perform the duty he owed to his fellow-citizens. You will notforgetthat their jurisdiction is exclusive ; there were other Magistrates who might have had general power, but the peace of the city is confided, principally) 389 to those gentlemen, and it is thus that they have preserved it, that the property is destroyed through the medium of these breaches of the peace. “Gentlemen, I have abstained entering into a vast variety of particulars, of which I had taken numerous notes; I really feel that a great quantity of the evidence is altogether immaterial. A little more or a little less, — a few expressions here and there, of anxiety, to act with the military or without, — the question of defending the Guildhall, or any other building, are all subor- dinate to the main question. We have seen the most calamitous events, the most widely spread misery, desolation, and crime ; and we have seen nothing like a reasonable efFort to prevent it. “ On the Saturday, I would ask you, whether you would like to have been in those rooms up stairs at the Mansion-house, — which is uncontradicted, — and in the absence of that evidence, I would ask you, whether you would not have endeavoured to repair the misconduct of the special constables — whether you would have been satisfied with requesting the attendance of the people, and whether you would have heard the Bridewell was about to be attacked, without taking any means to save it ; and whether you would not have gone, and endeavoured to have prevented the mob crossing the water, and seizing the Gaol ; and when this profligate mob was increased from another Gaol, whether you would not have thought it your duty to make repeated calls, by the voice of authority, upon all men of all ranks; and having been repulsed from the Bishop’s Palace, and from the office, I ask whether you would have left it, and retired for two or three hours, where no mortal could know where to find you, whatever assistance might arrive from reinforcements ? “Gentlemen, this is, indeed, as my learned friend says, a most important case ; it will guide the conduct of the Magis- trates of England, in all time to come. We have gentlemen from a county of the first respectability, called to decide this case ; and I do assure you, I have never once asked a question as to the political sentiments of any one of you. 1 have endea- voured to argue it upon its own merits, and with the same simplicity and distinctness, that I laid the case of felony before the jury at Bristol. If I should appear to have appealed to any feelings, which may, by possibility, exist in your minds upon subjects endeavoured to be connected with this case improperly, I do most solemnly assure you, that I lay them aside. I con- sider this as a case on the part of the King’s Government, with- out the slightest reference to any effect that may be produced on any party in the state, and without any consideration but this — aye or no, — is the truth of this case with the Mayor, or is it not? Your own views of your duty will go far to decide this case. If there is a duty more sacred than that of a Magis- trate, it is that of a juror, and it is uot to permit himself to be led away here, by any topics of momentary excitement on the part of the defendant, or on the part of the Crown ; for such attempts would be most unjustifiably made, and it is only to help them out of the case that I allude to them now, entreating you will think no more about them than if they were a part of the history of some Greek republic, and confine your attention solely to the point, whether you can, in your consciences, and upon your oaths, say to the defendant, ‘ You have conducted yourself with such energy as the Mayor of Bristol, that from the beginning to the end of these riots, you were justified in imputing their countenance to the indisposition of those people surrounding you, who had a common interest and a common feeling, up to a great extent, and whose lives and properties were under your protection, and who had a right to expect the exercise of reasonable prudence, in arresting the most dreadful calamities that can fall upon mankind. This is all I wish; and I give it as my parting charge, if I may so, upon thissubject; dismiss all feeling, and let all prej udice, of whatever description, sleep entirely in your minds ; take what you conceive to be the true criterion of truth, and ask whether your own conduct would have been satisfactory, if like that of the gentleman accused. I acquit him of any of the bad motives that degrade human nature ; but ask yourselves whether I have not proved, that he has conducted himself in such a manner, that if other Magistrates adopted him as an example, the peace and tran- quillity of the whole community would be permanently endan- gered.” Mr. Justice Littledale. — Gentlemen, there is a great body of evidence, and it is a very important case ; it is now getting 391 late ; I do not know whether you would like to wait till to- morrow morning, before I sum up. A Juryman. — It would be a satisfaction to us if the informa- tion was read over distinctly to the Jury. Mr. Justice Littledale. — The Officer of the Court will do that. Mr. Justice Taunton. — The first count would probably be sufficient. A Juryman. — Yes, my Lord. Foreman of the Jury. — We will defend it till to-morrow morning, before the charge is given. Another Juryman. — It is submitted to the convenience and approbation of your Lordships, whether it should be deferred till the morning. Mr. Justice Littledale. — I will do as well as I can now, if you wish it ; but there is such a mass and body of evidence, it would be more convenient to begin to-morrow. You will perhaps first decide whether you wish the Judge to read over, minutely, sentence by sentence, the whole of the evidence. Several of the Jurymen. — Certainly not. Mr. Justice Taunton. — If you wish him to read it over, it would require some preparation to-night, to enable him to do it with all the correctness desirable. Foreman of the Jury. — Certainly not. Mr. Justice Littledale. — If you are satisfied I should not go into the evidence, if you wish me to proceed to-night, I will do so. Foreman of the Jury. — No; to-morrow. Mr. Attorney-General. — Some of the Juries, in the other cases, are anxious to return ; there is no chance of your Lord- ship’s taking them in Term. Mr. Justice Littledale. — Certainly not. Adjourned at ten o’clock. SEVENTH DAY. — Thursdaa', November 1st, 1832. The Jury were called over and were all present. SUMMING UP. Mr. Justice Littledale. — “ Gentlemen of the Jury, this, as you are aware, is an information filed by his Majesty’s Attorney- General— of course you have looked at the information ” 392 A Juryman. — “ We have, ray Lord, and have read it atten- tively.” Mr. Justice Littuedale. — “ This is an information filed by his Majesty’s Attorney-General against Charles Pinney, Esq. who is stated in the information to have been the Mayor, and in other counts to be a Justice of the Peace for the City and County of Bristol ; and the subject for your consideration relates to the conduct of the Chief Magistrate of one of the largest cities of the British Empire, during one of the greatest and most serious riots that has existed in this country for half a century. He is charged with criminal neglect of his duty, and thereby occasioning a great part of that destruction of lives and property that occurred upon that melancholy occasion ; and it has been deemed of such great importance that instead of hav- ing the case tried in the usual manner at Nisi Prius, it was thought proper to be tried at the bar of the Court, in order that if any difficulty in point of law arose upon the subject, it might be more solemnly argued than it could have been at Nisi Prius. “ Gentlemen, this trial, at the beginning, was attended by a full Court; but, unfortunately, my Lord Tenterden having struggled for three days to attend this important trial, felt himself under the painful necessity of absenting himself, nnd could not further attend. “ Gentlemen, there can be no doubt whatever, that, by the law of England, if a public officer is guilty of criminal neglect of duty, he is liable to a criminal information ; but I am not aware of any information of this nature having been put in practice, except in the case of Mr. Kennett, who was Lord Mayor of London during the riots in 1780, and who was tried before Lord Mansfield, at Nisi Prius, at Guildhall. He was charged with specific offences, — with not reading the Riot Act, and also general neglect of duty. The circumstances of that case were somewhat different from this : he was charged with special offences — with not reading the Riot Act, and releasing prisoners; but here the charge is, you observe, for general mis" conduct — taking into consideration the conduct of the defendant during the whole course of these proceedings, from an early hour on Saturday morning to the same hour, or rather later, 393 on the Monday following; therefore it is much more vague, and extended to a greater latitude of enquiry ; and you will have to bear in mind, that where the subject is more general, it will require more consideration than where it is reduced to a single charge. “Now, gentlemen, it appears, that what gave rise to this was, that Sir Charles Wetherell, the Recorder of Bristol, and who had been appointed in 1827, had fixed Saturday, the 29th of October, to hold the Gaol Delivery in that city. From the opinions he had expressed in Parliament upon the subject of Parliamentary Reform, and which was a subject which at that time agitated a great part of the kingdom and Bristol also, it was apprehended that there might be some risk of riot and tur- moils, if he should come to hold the Gaol Delivery at the time he intended ; and a deputation was sent to London to hold a communication with Lord Melbourne, the Secretary of State, and also with Sir Charles Wetherell, to consider of the expe- diency of his coming as he intended. It was however determined that no alteration should take place, and that he should come as was intended ; but it seems that his Majesty’s Government promised to send some troops to Bristol, in case any riot should occur, and it was necessary to act. “ Accordingly Sir Charles Wetherell came on the 29th of October, the day fixed. There had been a consultation among the Authorities there, whether it would not be advisable to have further protection for the escort of Sir Charles Wetherell on that occasion, than was usually had in the city, either upon the entrance of the Judge of Assize, or the Recorder — and it was deemed expedient that three hundred special constables should be appointed ; and that was thought sufficiently adequate to protect all parties upon that occasion. Accordingly, three hundred men were procured, not all special constables, for a great many refused to be sworn in, and they could not be got but upwards of one hundred attended, and others were hired, so that altogether there were about three hundred men. “ As soon as Sir Charles Wetherell arrived at the town, there was only a small number of persons assembled ; because, having gone at ten o’clock in the morning, which was earlier than usual, it was not known he had entered. However, the mob 394 increased ; there was a pelting with stones and other missiles, and that continued till he came to the Guildhall. At the Guildhall the Charter was read, and the Commission opened, — still, however, the same degree of confusion, and riot, and hisses, and groans continued till he got to the Mansion-house ; the same scene continued there — the special constables were there — and the mob were increased in great numbers — and the special constables were not able at one time to keep the people quiet ; it was then proposed to call in the military, hut Sir Charles Wetherell objected to it; his advice was followed, and the military were not called in immediately, but a short time after- wards it was thought actually necessary. The Riot Act was read ; and the mob had increased to such an extent, that it was deemed expedient for Sir C. Wetherell to leave the Mansion- house, which he did at six o’clock in the afternoon, and, finally, in the course of the night, he left the city. “ Gentlemen, the confusion still continued, — the Mayor went out to address the people — the Riot Act was again read — and also at a still later hour in the morning. The military, at one time, were compelled to act, and it was doubted whether they ought not to fire in case of necessity, but the Mayor was dissuaded from it ; the mob and the constables alternately pre- vailed, and various conflicts took place, and persons were wounded ; some of the constables were wounded, and some of the military were wounded, and some of the mob — and, in the course of the morning, a boy waskilled,not in theneighbourhood of the Mansion-house, hut below. However, by the exertions of Major Mackworth and other persons who organized the special constables, the mob was got down by twelve or one o’clock in the morning; different persons went to their houses, and Major Mackworth went to his home; but the Mayor, it seems, whose residence was at the Mansion-house, thought it right to stay upon the spot; he did not go to bed — perhaps he could not — as they had been taken down to barricade the win- dows. This continued during the night — all was quiet ; but at an early hour, about six or seven o'clock, the mob began to assemble again, and they assembled in greater force ; the life of the Mayor was considered in danger, and he was actually directed by Major Mackworth to leave; he told him, as a 395 military man, that he was bound and that it was his duty to go away, and he did go away, and made his escape from thence ; the mob increased — they became occasionally quiet — but they went on alternately increasing and decreasing in violence till the middle of the day, when they attacked the Bridewell. The Bridewell, gentlemen, was attacked and burnt, and they re- leased the prisoners taken the preceding night. “ Then they proceeded to the City Gaol, and there they released the prisoners that were to have been tried by the Recorder — and they destroyed the Governor’s house. They then went to the Toll-house, at the Dock-gate, which was partly destroyed ; and they went to the prison at Lawford’s- gate — which, though in common parlance, a part of the city of Bristol, is out of the jurisdiction of the city, is in the county of Gloucester — and they destroyed that. Then they went to the Bishop’s Palace, which they set on fire, and partly demolished : they were repulsed by the constables, who kept them off for some time ; but the military having retired, the mob returned, and the Palace was consumed. “ At this time the mob had acquired great strength ; they had demolished the Custom-house, and they burnt the Excise- office, and the houses on two sides of Queen-square, and they were beginning to burn and destroy the third side, when the 3rd dragoon guards came, and prevented it, and no further vio- lence occurred ; they were sufficient to keep down the mob, till, by the arrival of the 14th dragoons, and also the arrival of a further troop of yeomanry from Gloucester, peace was restored in the city ; they made successive charges from street to street, where they saw people collected together, and, by the middle of the day, tranquillity was perfectly restored. “ Now, gentlemen, all this scene of destruction, — for a great many lives were lost, many persons who had got into the houses after they were set on fire, were burnt in the flames ; many lives were lost, and a vast destruction of property took place, — naturally calls for enquiry into the causes of it; and as the military and civil power acted upon that occasion, it is fit to enquire whether they have acted properly — whether it was owing to the civil or military authority — both, or cither of them — or whether they were wholly incapable to stop the mob, owing to its great power. 396 “ A communication was made of all the circumstances of the case to his Majesty’s Government, by persons appointed to examine into them, and also by the defendant — the Mayor, Mr. Pinney himself, who wrote a letter, stating his view of the case, to Lord Melbourne, the Secretary of State for the Home Department. “ The Government very naturally determined, as it was to be expected they would do, that a regular public enquiry should be made into these matters, and accordingly a Court Martial was held upon some of the officers who acted upon that occasion, and now the present Information comes before you. They directed that an Information should be filed by his Majesty’s Attorney-General, which comes before you for enquiry, and you are to consider whether, upon this occasion, there was any default in the Mayor, who is the only one charged in this Information. There are ten Informations alto- gether against the different Magistrates ; the only one for your consideration is that against the Mayor. I have only given you a general history, to shew how the case comes here. I will state to you my notion of the law presently ; and if my learned brothers wish to address you, they will have an oppor- tunity of doing so when I have done. It will be hardly neces- sary for me to state very particularly what the charge is. The general charge is, that on the 29th of October, these riotous and unlawful assemblies took place in the city of Bristol, and that violent attacks and outrages were committed upon the persons and properties of the King’s subjects. Then it says, that on the following day, the Sunday, a great number of rioters assembled themselvers together, in different parts of the city, armed with bars, pickaxes, hammers, and other instru- ments, and that they attacked a certain common gaol or prison, called the Bridewell, and burned and destroyed that gaol : That they afterwards attacked another prison, called a Gaol, and set the prisoners at liberty, and partially destroyed it : That they then went to the Bishop’s Palace, and made another riot, and burnt and demolished it: That they afterwards attacked and broke open, and burnt a great many dwelling-houses of his Majesty’s subjects, in Queen-square : And that the defendant, then and there, in the city of Bristol, being a Justice of the Peace, not regarding the duties of his office, bul neglecting the 397 same, did not suppress, or put an end to, or use due means and exertions to suppress such riot, and the said burning and demo- lishing, and destroying the gaols and messuages, and the violence and the breaches of the peace before stated, as he could, and might, and ought to have done, or endeavour to execute the powers and authorities by the laws of this realm vested in him; but that, during all that time, he neglected his duty in that behalf ; and that he omitted to provide and organize sufficient force for suppressing the same, but that he wholly refused and neglected so to do, or to give such orders and directions as were necessary for restoring peace and tranquillity in the city, and as he was of duty bound to do ; and that he did withdraw and conceal himself, not only from the persons so unlawfully and riotously assembled, but also from all such of his Majesty’s loyal and peaceable subjects, then and there being in the said city and county, as stood in need of his orders and assistance . and that he wilfully and unlawfully neglected and omitted to execute, or endeavour to execute, any of those powers or authorities that the law vested in him as such Justice of the Peace ; and that he wilfully and unlawfully permitted and suf- fered the persons, so unlawfully and riotously assembled, to be and continue so assembled, in the commission of the aforesaid violences, burnings, and destructions of property, for a long space of time. “ That is the first count of the information ; and then there are other counts, which only charge it more in detail. “ Now, gentlemen, before I advert to the particular circum- stances that occurred, as they are proved in evidence in this case, I will remark, that a person, whether a Magistrate or a peace officer, where he is entrusted with the duty of suppressing a riot, is put into a very difficult situation to know how to act. On the one hand, if he exceeds his power, and occasions death, or the destruction of property, or other violence or in- jury, he is liable to be proceeded against by indictment for murder or manslaughter, or as the case may happen to be. On the other hand, if he neglect his duty, and does not do enough, he is liable to he proceeded against, as charged in this information, for a criminal neglect of duty. “ You will take into consideration the circumstances in 398 which a man is placed — he is bound to hit the exact line between an excess — and doing what is sufficient, — there is only one pre- cise line, and how difficult it is in cases of riots of this kind, to hit that line, — that will be to be taken into account in con- sidering this case. Still, however, in point of law he is bound to do it ; and though you will give a very lenient consideration to it, it is for you to consider whether he has hit that precise line or not. If you are of opinion he has not come up to the point you think he ought to have done, then he is guilty. But the situation in which a man is thus placed is only what the state of society renders unavoidable ; — whether a man voluntarily seeks a public situation, as is usually the case with persons, who fill Corporate offices and other places, or where a breach of duty, or excess be committed by peace officers, who very often do not seek the situation, but it is cast upon them — the law requires that whether a man seeks an office or is compelled to accept it, he should do his best. In the present state of society, if it were not so, there would be an end to all security — unless persons were bound in the situations they filled to act according to law, and therefore, it is only what the law casts upon them ; but in a case of difficulty the law takes that into con- sideration. It will accordingly be kept in mind, that you ought to see clearly that he was guilty of a criminal neglect before he is found guilty ; and I will here remark that, however honorable and honest the intentions of a man may be, he is still liable to be found guilty — the mere intention and desire to do what is right, cannot protect him. A man may, out of a sense of humanity, consider a particular thing better done at another time — he may abstain from doing his duty with rigour — he may, with the best intentions, not act to the full extent of his duty, and that would be taken into consideration in the punishment inflicted upon him, but it is no justification of the offence. A man is bound by law to do his duty, and you are to consider whether he has done his duty or not. . “ Now, gentlemen, inasmuch as a public officer, to whom is entrusted the discharge of a public duty, is bound to discharge it according to law, the question for the consideration of the Jury is, whether the person so charged has done all that he knew was in his power ? The question is — whether the defendant 399 has done all that he knew was in his power to suppress the riots, and that could be reasonably expected from a man of honest purpose, and ordinary prudence and activity, under the circumstances he was placed in ? That, in my opinion, is the point, gentlemen, for your consideration : — Has the defendant done all that he knew was in his power to suppress the riots, that could be reasonably expected from a man of honesty, and ordinary prudence and activity, under the circumstances in which he was placed ? “ I have mentioned the word honesty what I mentioned to you before about honesty will shew you that it is not suffi- cient to exculpate a man, but it will form an ingredient in considering the question whether a person is to be found guilty or not ? “ Now, whether that happens to be the case under considera- tion or not, the point now, as applicable to this particular case, seems to be this : — Did he use those means that the law requires to assemble a sufficient force to suppress the riot, and prevent the mischief? That is one of the points, and the most material in my mind. Another point will be — Did he make all the use that, as an honest man, he ought to have done, of the means in his power to suppress the riots, and prevent the mischief? Therefore the points are — Did he use those means that the law requires to assemble a sufficient force to prevent the mischief? — and did he make such a use of that force to prevent the mischief, that an honest man ought to have done, by his own personal exertion ? These are the peculiar points arising out of the general point, and these two appear to me to be the points you will have to consider. “ Before I state to you any of the circumstances of the case, I shall remark that, according to the testimony of Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, a member of the law, and a gentleman of long standing in the profession, and Town-Clerk of Bristol for twenty years, it appears that the defendant acted under his advice ; and it appears, from a great deal of the other evidence, that Mr. Ser- jeantLudlow was present upon a variety of occasions, and that the defendant, Mr. Pinney, had the best legal advice that could be expected to be given ; and, according to the testimony of Major Mackworth, an officer in the army of considerable rank and 400 standing, and certainly a man of great spirit, he says, ‘ The Mayor acted properly, and was ready to do as he suggested:* and, if a public officer, neither a military man nor a lawyer, acts according to the advice of those best able to give it, that will be for the consideration of the Jury ; upon the whole case, if the lawyer tells him, upon legal points, what he ought to do, and the military man tells him, upon military points, what he ought to do, and he acted accordingly, it will be a point for the con- sideration of the Jury : but, most clearly, if he errs in point of law, he cannot shelter himself under their advice ; and so, also, as to any thing that does not fall within the scope of their advice ; because, whatever experience the man may have who gives the advice, whether as a lawyer or a military man, or a magistrate of great experience, if it is not according to law, a man cannot shelter himself under that advice ; but it would be most important for you to consider whether he followed the advice of those best able to give it. A man of great experience may be presumed to say that which is according to law, and according to the exercise of a sound discretion ; and it must be observed, that when they give that advice, it is not advice put down by way of opinion upon a written statement, as to what a man ought to do under the circumstances, but upon the spur of the occasion, having no opportunity of seeing all the facts, or of saying, I think you have done right upon all those occa- sions; but Major Mackworth says, at the same time, he was perfectly ready to attend his suggestions: it is for the Jury to consider whether the advice they gave him was not the correct and legal advice. Still, however, if the Jury should be of opinion that the advice they gave was not correct and legal, the man cannot shelter himself under the advice he so receives. “ Another remark I wish to make is this — that in determining upon the guilt or innocence of the defendant, as to that part of the charge that applies to his not providing a sufficient force to suppress the riots — you are not to take into consideration the whole of the events that subsequently occurred ; both as to the great calamities and the insufficient aid of the military, you are not to take into consideration those events that subse- quently occurred. “ If it could have been foreseen what did occur — that the 401 military would arrive, but would not act as they were expected to do, or that a total demolition of property would take place — it is possible, by over-exertions, and going beyond what a man was bound to do, and by the inhabitants of the town coming forward — if all these misfortunes had been foreseen, a greater force might have been collected; but, gentlemen, you are not to take that into consideration, — you are to consider the guilt of the defendant according to the circumstances that occurred at the time, — you are not to consider probabilities, because an immense force might have been provided, and no riot have occurred, and a person would have been laughed at for exerting himself in that way ; — you are to judge from what passed at the time, — and you are to consider the probable consequences of a mob against whom an insufficient force was provided, and what they might do, in case an insufficient force was provided, and whether it was likely to lead to the calamities that occurred, — because you are to consider Mr. Pinney in the circumstances in which he was placed at the time, without taking into consi- deration those that occurred afterwards, “ Many of you, gentlemen, are, very likely, magistrates in the county, and such of you who are not, have an opportunity of seeing what the magistrates of the county are called upon to do; — put yourselves into Mr. Pinney’s situation at the time, and putout of consideration, the great calamities that afterwards occurred. “ Now, gentlemen, there are various acts charged in this information; — as neglect of duty, it is a general one — for not using his best endeavours to provide a sufficient force — for not properly using the force he had — not protecting the Bridewell, the City Gaol, the Bishop’s Palace, and the houses afterwards destroyed. “ If any portion of you should be of opinion that the neglect of duty is proved, as to any one of these facts, and others should be of opinion it is not proved, but that it is proved upon some other point ; for instance — supposing any four of you should be of opinion that neglect of duty is proved upon one point, and the other eight should be of opinion it is not proved — and then that eight, upon another charge, are of opinion a new charge is proved, and the other four, who thought the old charge proved, think the new charge is not proved — so that the E e 402 whole twelve may think that the neglect of duty is proved — - four being of opinion there was neglect of duty upon one occa- sion, and eight at another time, — yet, still, that is not sufficient to convict the defendant, — the whole twelve must be of opinion that the neglect of duty is proved upon some one point. “ Now then, gentlemen, in proceeding more particularly to consider the circumstances attending this case ; the first ground of complaint in order of time, is the conduct of the Mayor as to what occurred on Saturday, the 29 th of October, and the charge is, that he did not supply a sufficient Civil Force — that he did not apply it properly — that he did not head the consta- bles, but went up stairs. “ Now gentlemen, with regard to that, it appears upon the evidence, that a consultation was held some days before as to the number of persons to be employed, and it was thought three hundred was a sufficient number ; that number of special constables could not be procured, but others were hired to make up the number ; therefore, you see, upon consultation it was thought that three hundred would be sufficient to protect Sir Charles Wetherell when coming into the town to the Man - sion-house, which was all that was expected to be done upon that day ; and one should suppose, although it was known that a great deal of excitement was existing, that three hundred special constables would be quite sufficient for that service. These constables were employed in the usual way — they had conflicts with the mob occasionally, as is usually the case. Now, gentlemen, then with regard to that, the constables were headed by the chief constables of each ward ; and you will have to con- sider whether there is any fault in the Mayor in that respect. It is said, that the Mayor did not go out to head them; it appears he did go out, and harangued the people, and the missiles were thrown at him, which, instead of hitting him hi* another person, and it was considered that his life was in dan- ger Then what did he do ? — He ordered the Civil Force to clear the mob away, and that the military should be sent for, and that when the military came, the gas lights being put out, he went to point out to the military where they were to go. I have only given you a part of what the Mayor did ; he was upon the spot ; and it appears to me, that the Mayor upon such occa- sions in point of law, is not bound to go and head the consta- 403 hies; that is trusted generally to the head or chief constable, who is a man generally adapted to it, and the Mayor's exertion would not be equal to the exertions of the head constables. Its is for you to consider whether the chief constable would not be more likely to be useful. The Mayor read the Riot Act and harangued the mob, and you see how he was compelled to retreat, and one hardly sees how that can be considered a neglect of duty. If his presence had been required upon any particular occasion, it was only stepping into the Mansion-house where he was at the time this riot took place : it is very true he went up another pair of stairs— (that appears to have been because the windows of the lower room were broken, and stones were thrown in) — to a higher room, where the stones were not thrown in, and he had a better opportunity of seeing what was going on, than below. It is for you to consider ; but it ap. pears to me, there is nothing there that can be attributed as neglect of duty to the Mayor. “ Now, gentlemen, it is said, that he did not organize the special constables. With regard to the word “ organize,” that •s a new term, both in the law and in the English language, although often used ; and I do not know that I ever found it put into an indictment, or information, or declaration, — at least I never saw it before ; but that is, perhaps, disputing about terms: however, that is the complaint; — that he did not arrange’ would, perhaps, be a more legal term. I do not know that it is the duty of a Mayor to arrange the special constables — that is the duty of a man who has had experience in matters of that kind ; — if he has not had considerable experience, I do not know how he is to set about it; the chief constables are to take care of that ; the chief constable is the man to arrange the special constables, and not to call upon the Mayor to do it ; but, however, it was not done, and there was great confusion. Major Mackworth happened, fortunately, to be there, and he did organize them ; being a military man, and accustomed to marshal soldiers, they acted under his directions very differently from what they would have done under the Mayor of the city, who perhaps never saw those things done. Major Mackworth says, he saw the constables were in confusion, and that his atten- tion was drawn to it. You see Major Mackworth, upon that occasion, acquits the Mayor of any blame — that he used all the E e 2 404 means in his power— that he saw no blame in him— and he con- siders him entirely free of any blame; but, however, there is a general answer to be given to all this, and that is — that this mob was cleared away, and that every thing was quiet by twelve or one in the morning, so that the persons thought they might go home ; and I may add also, that when some questions arose about ordering the troops to fire upon the people, that Colonel Brereton said they ought not to fire, and that he would take the whole responsibility of the peace of the city upon himself for that night ; and as to whether the Mayor ought to have stepped six feet to the right or to the left, or to have stood still, it is perfectly impossible to consider in this sort of pro- ceeding. The great answer to the whole of that is, that the city was quite quiet. “ Now, gentlemen, it appears also from the testimony of Mr. Hare, the Under-sheriff of Bristol, that the mob, on Saturday was only the same kind of mob that they have on elections — it was merely such a mob as they very often have. “ Gentlemen, you see the Mayor on this information is charged with want of energy, — and see what does he do : they desire him to be energetic ; he gave directions that the troops should fire, if necessary; and if he was about to give orders to that effect when he was dissuaded by Colonel Brereton, the com- manding officer upon that occasion, who took the responsibility upon himself, — he was dissuaded by Major Mackworth against it ; and if he had ordered the troops to fire, and exhibited that energy, and any person had been killed, and he had been in- dicted for murder, it might have been somewhat difficult ; I do not say he would not have made out a case ; but if he had acted contrary to the directions of two military officers, and ordered the troops to fire, I think he would have found some difficulty in answering it, — at least a prima facie case would be made against him. I mention this, to shew the difficulty of the situa- tion in which a man is placed ; if he goes and does too much, he is liable to have one species of prosecution against him, — and if he does too little, he is liable to another. “ Then, gentlemen, coupled with this, it is matter of com- plaint, that the Mayor did not keep a sufficient force of con- stables in the Mansion-house, during the night, — that is a matter of complaint against the Mayor: the answer to that is — that 405 the riot was over — it was not necessary. If the riot was over, and the streets are clear, why are you to keep special constables in the Mansion-house? Besides, it was actually impracticable; the special constables had gone away as soon as they had landed the Mayor and Sir Charles Wetherell at the Mansion-house ; some of them did stop ; but instead of three hundred, which were collected at the Mansion-house, there were only one hun- dred ; two hundred had gone away ; and when they were organized by Major Mackworth, did they keep together? No, they did not,— they went away,— the greater part had gone home ; and from the disposition they had shewn to go away as fast as they could, I do not apprehend it would have been in his power to keep them together ; but the answer is, it was not necessary, — and if it had been necessary, the small number that remained would have been of no use: and another thing to remark is this — that Sir Charles Wetherell, at this time, had gone out of the city, and as he was the great exciting cause of the riot, — for if he had not come into the city, the riot would not have taken place, — and as a public notice had been given, that he was gone away, — as the cause had vanished, — it might naturally be supposed that no further riot would take place, and for that reason it might not be thought necessary to keep a force in the Mansion-house. “ Then the next charge, and which is the most important, is, that he did not use those means which the law requires to assemble a sufficient force on Sunday morning, to suppress the riots, and prevent the mischief that took place, — and that is the most material charge in my mind for you to consider upon this occasion. Upon this, 1 would first refer to the Statute of the 1st George the 4th, chapter 37, the 1st and 2d of William the 4th, chapter 41, which authorise the Magistrates to call out special constables. It was deemed expedient, that provision should be made to authorise the Magistrates to call out special constables, and to compel them to attend. Now, the information does not contain any charge against Mr. Pinney for not doing so ; if it had, the particular requisites of these Acts must have been complied with. Gentlemen, he is not charged with that, — that that has not been done, — neither is any evidence given on the part of the Crown, to shew that such steps had been taken ; it does not appear that any person went before the Mayor, and required 406 him to call out the special constables ; but it has been a matter of consideration with the Court, although the Mayor was not ealled upon, whether he was not bound to call out a sufficient force, notwithstanding the provisions of the Act were not com. plied with ; — upon that the maj ority of the Court have decided, — and it is the law I lay down to you, that no question can arise as to his not taking any steps to call out the special constables ; and you may throw those Acts quite out of your view in this case, as much as if they had never passed at all, — they have nothing to do with this charge in the information, nor with the evidence adduced, — therefore, they are to be treated by you in the same manner as if the Acts had never been made, or, if made, had expired. The question upon this occasion will be, whether Mr. Pinney has done what the general rules of the common law require of him in this respect. “ Now, gentlemen, Justices of the Peace are to keep the public peace, and with regard to rioters, they are to restrain and pursue, arrest, and take them, — that is the general duty of a Justice of the Peace, arising from the nature of his employ- ment as a Justice. “ Gentlemen, to enable Justices to do that, they have autho- rity to call upon the King’s subjects to aid them in cases of riots — and the King’s subjects are bound to be assistant to them in that respect, when reasonably warned ; — that I lay down to you as the general duty of Justices as to riots; they are to keep the peace and to pursue and arrest rioters ; and to enable them to do that, he is empowered to call upon the King’s subjects to aid him in suppressing riots when they shall be reasonably re- quired. Therefore, in the case of riot, the common law obliga- tion cast upon a Justice is to call upon the King’s subjects to assist him in suppressing the riot. Gentlemen, that is the com- mon law obligation thrown upon Justices of the Peace. You will have to consider whether that has been done upon this occasion ; — that is the material thing, in my opinion, for you to consider. Other points will arise in the case, which I will state hereafter ; but in my opinion, if he has done that, he has done all that the law required of him. “ Gentlemen, it is in evidence that, when the mob went to the Mansion-house on the Sunday morning, there was no Civil Power to resist them ; and that at the meetings that afterwards 407 took place at the Guildhall and at the Council-house on the Sunday forenoon and afternoon, there was no adequate Civil Force supplied, which one should think there might have been in so large a place as Bristol then it is said, that the Mayor and Magistrates had no plan to propose to the people, and that no Magistrates were there to receive the people who did attend ; and that afterwards, at the subsequent demolition and burning of the Bridewell and the Gaol, the Toll-house and the Dock gates, the Bishop’s Palace and the Mansion-house, the Custom- house, the Excise Office and Queen-square, there was no adequate Civil Power to suppress the riots. Gentlemen, that fact being in evidence, a prima facie case has been made out sufficient to call upon the defendant for an answer to shew that he has done what the law requires of him ; — that prima facie case being made out, that there was no power about the Man- sion-house and no adequate Civil Force at thsoe different places, that is sufficient to call upon the defendant to shew what he has cone to exculpate himself from that charge. “ Now, gentlemen, the answer given by the Mayor is, that as soonas he left the Mansion-house on Sunday morning, he con- certed measures to call out the Civil Power ; that he sent to the constables who had been there before : that he directed the consables who had been on duty the day before to be sum. moned : — that he went and personally called at several houses and isked people to come, and the pdople he accosted in the stree he required to do the same ; and that he required other persons to do the same — to go to the houses and to speak to peope in the streets. Then you will observe, that this was Sundry, and the body of the people were not scattered about in their private houses or shops ; it was natural to expect they woult be attending in their places of worship, parish churches, or otier places of worship ; it therefore appears, that the Mayer had an opportunity of getting the people together in a much less time, if they had been disposed to come forward, than it any other time when dispersed about in their own avo- catiois, and when they might not be so willing to come — they were attending divine worship, and when it was over, they mighl be inclined to go about, and it was more easy for the Mayor to call the people together upon a short notice. It appears, he sent summonses to the churchwardens and to the 408 chapels ; and the people assembled at those places of worship received those different notices. Besides this, gentlemen, he had bills posted about the town and distributed and put upon the walls. The form of one of the notices is addressed to the churchwardens. — [Here the learned Judge read the notice.] “ Therefore, it was not only a request that they should assem- ble, but a request that they should form themselves into bodies, and as soon as they were formed come to the Guildhall. “ That is what the common law requires of the Magistrate— he is to call the people together. He does call them, and he does it in a form most likely to be attended to, and he tells them to come, when formed, to the Guildhall : and if they had attended, the occurrences of that day might have been different. You are to consider, whether the Mayor had done all he could. Besides the notices to the churchwardens, notice was given in various places of worship. It appears by the evidence of several persons examined, the Catholic Priest and Dissenting Cleigy- men, that notices were regularly received and acted upon, ind proclaimed to the people assembled there. Then did the Mayor act bona fide earnestly ? From the exertions he made, you nay say, probably, he was in earnest. “ Then, gentlemen, the Mayor having done this, is this a reasonable warning ? and that is what I lay down to you asthe law in that respect — that the people are to come together ipon reasonable warning; that is the law of the land. Now, wasthis a reasonable warning ? If it was, the Mayor has done all ir his power. Was this a reasonable warning and notice to the intabi- tants to come to his aid and assistance ? If it was, it is all that the law requires in that respect ; and if it was a reasonable waning the only question will be, whether he did it as soon as tht law requires him to do it, because, although he might give nttice, another question is, whether he did it in sufficient time. The riot was over the night before, and all the persons had gone away. Major Mackworth did not deem it necessary to stop, and was the Mayor then in contemplation of a riot on theSun- day, to send the notice soouer ? All was quiet, and ms it incumbent upon the Mayor to send the notices sooner that he did on the Sunday ? He could not be expected to do it dtring the night, nor till the morning; and as soon as he found :here was a mob collected, he summoned the constables who had been 409 there before, and sent to the places of worship where all the people had been assembled. If he had sent people round with the notices before divine service, it would have been imprac- ticable, — he must have sent thousandsof messengers, — one or two thousand men must have been ready to obey his call — he must have sent off messengers to knock at every door in the streets; whereas the sending notices to the churches and chapels was the most expeditious mode of getting the people together that could be devised. It would not do for him to send persons about to leave notices at every house; — written notices must have been delivered at every house ; a mere verbal notice, if it had been served, might not have been understood, or they might affect not to understand it, or they might not in fact understand what it was about. He could not have given notice they should form and come to the Guildhall — they would have no oppor- tunity of doing so ; they could not form at their houses, but when assembled at the places of divine worship, when that was over they might forward some in a body. You are to consider whether that was not a proper mode for a person in his situation to have acted upon that occasion. “ Now, gentlemen, if the Mayor did all he is required to do, he cannot be liable for a neglect of duly, as far as that goes. “ Gentlemen, on those notices being served, it is in evidence that several persons refused to attend ; and it appears at one house a man made a jocular remark, that the Mayor had better send for the firemen. Some of the churchwardens would not attend, and some of the churchwardens came to say that the people would not obey the summons, and from one cause or another the persons are estimated differently; but the result was that there were not more than 150 persons who attended upon that occasion. The population of Bristol, I suppose, is 100,000; of these 100,000 you may take half as males and females, and there might be 20,000 men able to bear arms, who might have attended on this occasion. Certain it was, that with that inade- quate body of men the Mayor could not set about suppressing the riots. Besides which, these persons many of them have said they would notact without the military, and the military at that time were most of them gone ; others say, that they will not act with them, and others say, you must deliver us fire 410 arms. 1 may say upon that, that the Mayor would have been justified, in point of law, in delivering them fire-arms ; it would not have been prudent — on the contrary, it would have been the height of imprudence — to distribute arms in that way, without knowing any thing of the people, whether they were accustomed to the use of them or not. Fire-arms should never be introduced, exeept to persons who know the use of them, and who are subject to control in the use of them : if they are put into the hands of persons indiscriminately, the probability is that they will be used very improperly ; many of the con- stables might be cut off from the rest of the body, and in that way you would be arming the mob to act against the people. Therefore, to furnish fire-arms indiscriminately to persons assembled, without knowing who they are, or how they are to be used, would be acting with the greatest imprudence. Gen- tlemen, you have it from a half-pay captain, that it is imprudent; it is true, he does not appear to have seen any foreign service ; but Major Mackworth also says it is imprudent to entrust fire- arms to young recruits. I have no hesitation in saying, that the Mayor would have been justified in putting fire-arms into their hands, though it would not have been a prudent thing to do it. It is a very different thing to using fire-arms in a build- ing, — there people are in a body, and you can see what they are doing, — but here they are to go into the mob, and use them indiscriminately. I should say, it is not to be approved. “ Then, at the second meeting at the Guildhall, still fewer persons attended than at the first. Gentlemen, if the Mayor did all in his power to collect the people, it was not his fault that they were not collected, — and as to those who did attend, could the Mayor do any thing more ? — You hear the sentiments of those who did attend, — some would not go without the mili- tary, — the Mayor knew that the military had been sent away, though this was not stated to the people assembled, and certainly very prudently, not as it might have made them more unwilling to attend ; — however, that, was their opinion — and others would not go if the military were there. “ Now then, gentlemen, under all the circumstances upon these two occasions, certain plans were proposed— and plans might be proposed, but if there were no individuals there, they could not be executed. I should apprehend tnere could have 411 been no difficulty in getting a plan, if one thousand or two thousand people attended ; but there would have been a diffi- culty in forming a plan for so small a number of persons, — nothing could be decided upon for them so do. “ Then, as to his not calling out a sufficient force, — some of the witnesses say that a considerable body of gentlemen, about three hundred, assembled at the Commercial Rooms ; but if the Mayor had given notice to all the persons as I have stated, he was not bound to give notice at the Commercial Rooms ; reasonable notice had been given before; he might suppose that those persons had attended places of worship, — and we have no distinct evidence that those persons would have gone ; but they had probably been at places of worship, — and if they had been inclined to assemble, they would have gone to the Guildhall of their own accord. “ Gentlemen, there was also a general indisposition in the people, which appears from the evidence on the part of the prosecution, and also much more from that on the part of the defendant, — there was a considerable apathy in the town, both on the part of the people end the Magistrates too ; but there was great indisposition to act, to suppress the riot, and how do we know what would have become of them ? — you have no reason to suppose that they would act differently from those who assembled at the Guildhall : the Mayor issued proper warning, and I did not know that he was bound to go to them ; it is for you to consider, whether those persons did not know that they were to assemble at the Guildhall. “ Then, gentlemen, another thing said is, that the Mayor ought to have called out the Chelsea pensioners, of whom there was a considerable number. Major Mackworth says two days before he advised him to call them out, and it appears that upon some former occasion they had been called out. With regard to that, I apprehend that the Mayor was not bound to call upon the Chelsea pensioners any more than the King’s subjects in general. It is for you to consider whether the Mayor neglected what the law required of him, and not whether, in going beyond the line of his duty, he might not have done something else. — He is charged with not calling upon the King’s subjects in the way the law requires — and he was not bound to call upon the Chelsea pensioners any more than any 412 other of the King’s subjects — he was not bound to send round to the Chelsea pensioners ; but the answer he gave was, that there would not be time for it. I think it appears upon the evidence, that upon some former occasion they had been used, but that a good deal of time would be requisite for that purpose. The question is, whether the Mayor did use his endeavours to get an adequate force on the Sunday. The Chelsea pensioners were not contemplated then, but they were suggested to be called out on the Saturday morning. If the Mayor supposed he had a sufficient force, of three hundred men, perhaps, he was not bound to suppose there would be any occasion for a greater body* He says, there is no reason to contemplate any riot beyond tne Saturday — and the calling in this force, could only apply to the Saturday, and they were recommended for that occasion. It appears on the Sunday, at the Guildhall, several pensioners did attend — they had been induced to go, but there was not a suf- ficient force to afford any assistance. It appears about as many as twenty came ; but twenty was not a sufficient force — and the question is, whether the Mayor did make all the use he could of the force in his power ? “ Now, gentlemen, it certainly appears, with regard to making use of all the force that came, and making the best use of it, — it appears from all the evidence in the case, that there was no disposition to assist the Mayor. In one respect, there was a feeling arising out of the act of Sir Charles Wetherell coming into the town, and that was one cause of the indisposi- tion t another cause appears to have been a dislike to the Cor- poration ; and then, besides this indisposition to serve the Mayor, even those who did come, many of them left the place ; because you find on the Saturday night several of the special constables went away, and also one of the parties that went to the Palace. It appears that the regular special constables were not there — and you will have to consider whether there was not an indis- position on the part of those who did actually serve, not only among those who assembled at the Guildhall, but those who did actually serve, to stick by what they had undertaken to do. You find that the special constables went away on the Saturday night, and also on going to the Bishop’s Palace. “ Then, 1 may advert to the calling out the special con- stables on the Monday morning. It appears that many of those 413 who then acted as special constables, were persons who had been rioting the day before ; therefore, that shews what the dispo- sition of the people was, and how far you could have relied upon them if they had been there at the time ; — and it is in evidence, certainly, that many of those special constables were armed with weapons, half-swords, and half-knives, and they were seen acting with the rioters. You have, therefore, to consider how far there was a general disposition on the part of the people to act with the Mayor in suppressing the riots. “ Gentlemen, it appears also that two hundred persons were offered by Mr. Edgeworth, the Catholic Priest ; some remark was made whether they were likely to get drunk, or be steady ; the answer to that is, that that was not until the Monday morning — and you are to consider what was done on the Sunday. — Those two hundred men were not offered till the Monday morning. Now, gentlemen, on the Monday a much greater civil force was organized. 1 think it appears that the Sheriff had returned between two thousand seven hundred and two thousand eight hundred men — and on the Monday you will see what a different state of things had taken place. The military had arrived, and not only the military then in the town, but an additional military force from Gloucester. On the Monday, also, the inhabitants were impressed with different feelings, because many private houses had been burnt on the Sunday night; and on Monday morning it would naturally suggest itself to the inhabitants at large that, unless they were stopped, there would be an end to all kind of peace in the city 5 and the mob would have the town in their power — and that nobody possessing property would be safe* Besides which, on the Monday morning, several of the Political Union came forward, who, it appears by the evidence, had a considerable number of men ; one of the witnesses said there were three or four thousand assembled, which was added to the civil force — and from all those causes there was a sufficient force to put down the riots, and disperse the mob. “ Now, gentlemen, you observe also, that on the Saturday night, mention was made of calling out the posse comitatus. Mr. Serjeant Ludlow mentioned it, but not to the Mayor ; therefore, the Mayor was not liable for that. However, gen- tlemen, it was not acted upon that night — it was acted upon on 414 Sunday night, and every exertion was made — precepts were issued, and summonses were sent, but the mere arrangement of issuing those precepts took four or five hours ; and, therefore, the posse comitatus could not be called out in a moment. Besides which, gentlemen, though the posse comitatus may he called out by a Justice, it is generally done by the Sheriff, but it may be done by the Justice. The Under-Sheriff says that no such thing ever took place in Bristol to his knowledge — and he never knew of it anywhere else — therefore, it would be too much to impute a neglect of duty to the Mayor in that respect, because he did not call out the posse comitatus, which could not be done without great delay ; besides which, the calling out of the posse comitatus is only giving notice. All the King’s subjects are bound to attend the notice of the Magistrate, as well as they are bound to attend upon the posse comitatus ; there- fore this warning given by the Mayor, was doing the same thing as raising the posse comitatus, only you do not go through the formality of the precept being made out. What he did, was the same thing as raising the posse comitatus, by the delivering of public notices at the places of worsh ip on Sunday morning. “ Now, gentlemen, these appear to he the general causes of complaint : first, that of his not organizing together a sufficient force ; and next, not making use of the forces that did attend. Then, gentlemen, it is also further alleged against him, that he did not keep a sufficient military force, and a sufficient civil force, of resolute people, to act together as occasion might require. I do not know that that is any part of the duty of a Justice ; they are to suppress riots; hut as to keeping a suffi- cient force to act as occasion might require, it is no part of his duty, — that is an important part of the duty of a military man ; hut it is not the duty of a Justice of the Peace. Is it usual to have riots going on at different places at the same time ? — Can a man be reasonably expected to know what ought to be done upon every occasion which might arise ? — Besides which, it it appears that he had not a sufficient force to keep, so that he could not spare any ; and when a man is called upon to act with a corps of reserve, it seems to imply that he has a sufficient force to allow of a corps of reserve to be taken out. These are matters for your consideration. 415 “ Then, gentlemen, we come to the specific charge, that he did not protect the Bridewell. The general answer is, that he had no adequate force for it; he had no military, — for the 14th dragoons had been sent out of the town, although, ac- cording to the evidence of Mr. Fisher, there was no occasion to send them out on the ground of being tired, because the men and horses were in a state to do their duty. The other reason is, that the mob were too powerful for them. As to the mob being the occasion of sending the troops away, 1 do not know what to say to it ; but whether efficient, or not efficient, they were sent away. It is said by Colonel Brereton, as to the other soldiers, that they were tired, so that they were not allowed to act ; consequently, this military force, sent for the protection of the town, are withdrawn, and the place was left without any protection. Part were actually sent away, and the others not employed ; — there was no military force whatever. And with regard to the other men, you are to consider whether he had a sufficient force, and whether the Bridewell could be defended. You are to say whether it could be defended. You have had it stated, that both as to the Bridewell and the Gaol, a few resolute men might have defended it. However, upon these occasions, you are to consider whethei, it is not merely the few doing the act, but whether they will be assisted by other persons all around them ; — the question is, whether they would have joined the people, if a resolute attack had been made upon them ? Where had the Mayor any resolute men to make that attack, if twenty or thirty resolute men could have quelled the mob in those places? But this number of resolute men were not such men as attended the Mayor ; certainly, upon this occa- sion, the persons who attended as special constables went away the night before; — where should he find those resolute men ? and unless they were persons used to this kind of conflict, they would be of no use ; — resolute men of this kind are not so easy to be found, — resolute men — men such as would overpower a a greater number than their own body ; — if it is only ten opposed to ten, or twenty opposed to twenty, nothing is gained. These resolute men are to go and risk their lives, and you are to con- sider first, whether these resolute men spoken of would have been sufficient to protect the places attacked ; and if so, whether the Mayor had any of those whom he could have got to go there. 416 Then, as to not protecting the Gaol, there is the same answer. Gentlemen, with regard to the attack upon the Bridewell, that was made when the Mayor was gone to the White Lion, to repose. It does not appear he had any notice of the attack, and that consequently, whatever might be the case as to any other Magistrate who might be called upon to send a sufficient force there, it is no default of the Mayor in not sending a suffi- cient force to protect it. With regard to the Mayor going to the White Lion, I may observe here, I should have noticed it afterwards, that he was advised to go there. It appears that the Mayor had been up all night ; he had not gone to bed on the Saturday night, and he had had no food — he was seen to eat none by the persons with him, who would have seen it if he had taken any ; he was advised by several of the Magistrates to go to the White Lion, which is in the same street with the Guildhall, and therefore, when he was there he was within call ; his going there was only like going to another room in the house to take some repose; and he was found, when sent for, ready to come immediately ; — he was shaving himself, and the room did not appear as if the bed had been lain on. It is for you to consider, whether the Mayor was not justified in taking a little repose, even if he had taken more than he did. He bad been up all night, and was there an hour or an hour and a half; and there was a sufficient number of Magistrates at the Guildhall to give any orders to the military or any civil power. It is for you to consider, whether there is any harm in a man going there to take a little repose when it was only at a very short distance from the Guildhall, when he was within call, and when he was called he came almost immediately. “ Now, gentlemen, as to not protecting the Gaol, the same answer is given, and you have to take into consideration, whe- ther the same answer j ustifies the Mayor, that he had no adequate force of resolute men to send. It appears that two of the Magistrates did go out with some persons, but their force was not adequate — they could do nothing, and they came back again. “ Then, as to the Toll-house and Dock-gates, you will have to consider whether the same answer applies there. It has been said, as to the Gaol, that the communication between the Gaol and the rest of the city might have been cut off. I do 417 not know whether it might or might not, but that would have been the act of a military man in destroying a bridge to cut off the communication ; — you could not have expected it from a civil officer who might never have heard of cutting off a com- munication in that way in his life. It is what a military officer should have done, and not a civil officer ; but is it to be expected that the Mayor should destroy the drawbridge or draw it up? — it is cutting off the communication with the rest of the town, and if that was cut off, the mob could have had no resistance from that part of the town, and you would have to consider whether that was a prudent thing ; — it might have been a pru- dent thing in the opinion of a military man, but the question is, whether it is a thing naturally to occur to a man in a civil situation, a Justice of the Peace, it being a thing relating to military tactics. Lawford’s Gate is out of the jurisdiction of the city, and is not to be taken into consideration against the Mayor. “ Gentlemen, the next charge is for not going and protecting the Bishop’s Palace. It appears that the Palace was attacked by the mob, and that some of the 3rd dragoons were about it at the time to protect it, and that some of the mob were taken, as it is said, into custody. Alderman Camplin went with several more to render his assistance, but before he got there, there was a party of three or four, who had got into the Bishop’s Palace, where they had secured some of the prisoners, and put out the fire which had been lighted. Besides Alderman Camplin, it appears that the Mayor also with a party went there ; Mr. Alderman Camplin appears to have gone first. This is a charge against the Mayor, and some of the witnesses say that they heard the Mayor propose to go, and attempt to go, and actually turned back; so far that act is a charge of personal cowardice, that he offered to go, and did not go, but slunk back. Those gentlemen could not have seen the whole of the transaction ; they might see him attempt to go, and go back, butit is upon the evidence of Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, that he did go back, but that he was not away above a minute, and that he then repaired to the Palace, though be did not quite get to the spot; there was no want of personal F f 418 courage, because he did go with a Law Officer of the Corpora- tion, and a great many other persons, to the spot. Then, Gentlemen, when they got there, the mob were drawn off, the soldiers had surrounded them, and the Mayor was desired to go to the Recruiting-office, where he might see that they had surrounded them. All at once the soldiers retired, for what reason we do not know, and we have no account of it; but when these prisoners were secured, the soldiers left, and the mob came in very great bodies ; and in fact while the soldiers were there, you have it in evidence what the conduct of the soldiers was, that they prevented the Bishop’s Servants securing the plunderers and the property, and that they protected the mob to a certain degree, — if not co-operating with them, at least doing that which amounted to a protection to them. You see what the conduct of the soldiers was ; they not only withdrew, but you have heard described what their conduct was to the persons assisting in the protection of the Palace. Then the soldiers were withdrawn, and it appears that the mob came up in very great force, — that they soon afterwards demolished the Palace, — that they set fire to it, the fire having been before extinguished, and the Palace was destroyed. The small force that had gone with Mr. Alderman Camplin, and the Mayor, were perfectly inadequate to protect the Palace ; many of the party deserted them, and went away, and it is for you to say, whether you can impute any misconduct to the Mayor in that respect, in not protecting the Palace. “ Now then, gentlemen, another charge against the Mayor is, that he, knowing that the Dodington troop of horse were expected, and having notice of it, a messenger having been sent to Captain Codrington ; for that the Mayor was in such a situa- tion he could not receive them. Now, gentlemen, upon the arrival of Captain Codrington’s troop, it was to be expected to be placed in quarters, and a place was found accordingly — Fisher's Repository : he said he could not find a stall for each horse, but that they must stand double, as had been the case before with the 14th dragoons. Every exertion was made to receive them, and Mr. Fisher had expected them, — certain billets were to be procured,— it was ascertained where the Mayor 419 was, that he was at Mr. Fripp’s house, — and that did not occa- sion the Joss of any time, — blank billets were made out ready to be distributed, and the Mayor was ready to receive them. Uufortunately, Captain Codrington’s troop were not made an efficient force ; — what it was owing to we do not know, — whether it was the fault of Colonel Brereton, in not seeing them safely lodged, we do not know; it appears he went up, and had some communication with Mr. Fisher, and he knew they were to be lodged there, — whether he ought to have stayed to see them admitted, I do not know, — however, in point of fact, he did leave them without any directions; but that was not the fault of the Mayor, whose conduct you are now to enquire into. It appears that Captain Codrington, upon going up there, was told they had no accommodation for a horse, much less for a troop, — and that Captain Codrington, finding there was no accommodation, went away. I should doubt whether that per- son, whoever he was, was stationed to give that information to Captain Codrington ; probably he was some person ,who wished the troop not to act, — however, it was most extraordinary, for the stable was in a state of preparation to receive the mili- tary, and it is inconsistent that a person should be stationed there to tell them they could not be received ; he must have spoken without any knowledge upon the subject, or from not wishing to have them there ; but it so happened, that Captain Codrington left the city, and he returned four miles out of the town, and no efficient assistance could be had from him; — was that the fault of the Mayor ? — that is the point you are enquiring into. “ Then, gentlemen, another charge upon the Mayor is, that upon being required to ride along with Major Beckwith, he did not do so. Gentlemen, in my opinion, he was not bound to do so in point of law. I do not apprehend that a Justice of the peace is bound to ride along and charge with the military: I think he was not bound to do so ; a military officer may act without authority of the Magistrate, if he chooses to take the responsibility ; but though that is the strict law, there are few military men who will take upon themselves to act without a Magistrate, except on the most pressing occasion, where it is F f 2 420 likely to be attended with a great deal of destruction of life; — a man, generally speaking, does not like to do it without the authority of a Magistrate, though the authority need not be given by his presence. The Mayor did give his authority to act, — the order has been given in evidence, — he requested Col. Brereton to do what was necessary to preserve the peace. I should say, in point of law, a Magistrate is not bound to ride with the soldiers, and more particularly upon this occasion? where the presence of the Mayor might be required to give general directions. If he made one charge, he must make as many other charges as the solders make. It is not in evidence that the Mayor was able to ride : there is a surmise that he had been seen on horseback ; but he was not a gentleman in the habit of riding. I am not certain whether some one person did not see him on horseback, but it is not only necessary to ride, if you make a charge, hut you must ride as soldiers do ; if you do not ride in a military manner, the probability is you would soon be unhorsed, and do more harm than good ; and more than that, if a man was to appear in a plain dress, heading the military, if the mob were disposed to resist, the mob would select him out to destroy him ; and I do not apprehend it is any part of the duty of a person who gives general directions, to expose himself to all kinds of personal danger. It is the case with generals in the army ; they do not consider it neces- sary to expose themselves to personal danger; if his troops are defeated, a general officer may think it necessary for him to lead them on ; he may go and lead them, as being the first man, but in the general conduct of military manoeuvres, it is not the practice for a general officer to expose himself in the front of the charge. I can see no reason why a Magistrate should do it. I can conceive of a case where it might be prudent for a Magistrate to do it — where there was any likelihood of the military not succeeding for want of a Magistrate ; but upon this occasion it was not necessary, — the mob was pretty well subdued, — they had been subdued by the charge of the 3rd dragoon guards, and in five or six hours afterwards by the 14th light dragoons, who had been sent for, when Major Mackworth charged with them, Colonel Brereton refusing to do so, — therefore there were two charges before Major Beckwith came in, — the mob was almost defeated, and it was only necessary for the final completion, that the streets should be cleared. It was not necessary, therefore, for a Magistrate to charge with them. “ Then, gentlemen, the next ground of charge is, that he did not attend to the fire-arms in the town. The evidence given is, that fire-arms were mentioned, but it would rather appear from the answer of the Magistrates, that attention had not been paid to the preparing of fire-arms. Alderman Daniel is supposed to have said, that the best thing to be done with the fire arms would be to throw them into the float. But the question is whether it was a prudent concealment for the Magistrates not to say what had been done with them. On the Sunday morning, you find that applications had been made to the gunsmiths to collect arms: the Magistrates had done that: they had not neglected it, and it was not prudent that the public should know what the Magistrates had done with the arms ; — an attack might have been made upon them, and it was very right and proper what they did ; they had done all that they could to secure a good many ; what they did with the rest is not in evidence. Besides, I am not aware that it is the duty of a Magistrate, or that he would he liable to a criminal information, if he did not go to the gunsmiths — all he cau do is, as I said before, to give that reasonable warning to the people to come forward, and as I told you before, he was not bound to put fire-arms into their hands ; if he had them, and could not use them, he could only keep them from the hands of the mob : hut whatever is the duty of a Magistrate in that way, the neglect to do it will not amount to a criminal neglect — a prudent man might do it, but you are not to consider that ; you are to con- sider whether there has been an infraction of the law upon this occasion. “ Then, gentlemen, another thing is, his neglect in not keeping a disposable force ; as I mentioned to you before he had not a sufficient number to allow of his keeping a disposable force ; and though it may be the duty of a military officer, it is not that of a Magistrate, and unless you find he is guilty of wilful default, which he is not here, you cannot find him guilty upon this charge. 422 “ Then, gentlemen, the next thing for your consideration, is that of the personal conduct of the Mayor. I have before disposed of his going up-stairs on the Saturday evening : he went up because the stones were throwing in, and they were obliged to barricade the lower windows with beds, and he had a better opportunity of seeing up-stairs what the mob were doing > “ Then, gentlemen, the next thing is, he left the Mansion- house on the Sunday. Gentlemen, with regard to that, it is proved he did leave it on the Sunday, but you have it given in the testimony of Major Mackworth, that his life was in danger upon that occasion. The Mayor said, I am unwilling to do it ; the Mayor seems to have had that kind of feeling in not leaving the Mansion-house, that the captain of a ship has when his ship has been wrecked ; he is the last man to leave the ship. On this occasion, the Mayor said, * I am unwilling to do it.’ Major Mackworth said, ‘ as a military man, I tell you it is your duty to do it — you ought to do it;* and being told by him what he would have done, he very properly did it, and by that time the mob had collected in such force, that he was obliged to get out at the back : the particular details have been proved how he got out. The witnesses for the prosecution endeavor to give a ludicrious account of it — thathe was seen in the larder, and that the women helped him up ; that is contradicted on the other side : Major Mackworth was with him, and helped him up, and he says there was no woman there. That is another thing which would be material, if it was a balance of testimony, whether you believe the account given by the witnesses for the prosecution, or for the defendant: but the thing is wholly immaterial, there is some ridicule attempted to be cast upon him, by saying that he was in the larder, and water closet. The Mayor was to get away in the best way he could ; suppose he escaped by those means, there was nothing in that. I do not think you have at all to consider the balance of testimony ; he was bound to getaway in the best way he could. “ The next charge is, his going to the White Lion. I have remarked upon that, that he went only to a place in the same street, where he was within call — and being called, he came immediately afterwards. That forms the part as to the White Lion, 423 “ Then there is another thing — that there appeared to be a concealment, a want of personal courage, and a disposition to endeavour to escape in some underhand way, when he en. quired about the means of escape from the Recruiting-office. Now, the two Serjeants would endeavour to make it appear that he asked to be put in a particular situation, to have notice of the approach of the mob, and the best way of getting out* as if he was desirous of learning what would be the best means of escape from the Recruiting-office. I do not think it material to go into the balance of testimony here any further than I may say this — that he appears to have been twice at the Recruiting- office -, at the first time, there was no danger apprehended — the mob were not at all near, and they might as well have walked out of the Recruiting-office at that time, as that day week before; no danger was to be apprehended, and if no danger was to be apprehended, is it likely he would make en- quiry as to how he could escape ? So that there can be no kind of question upon that, and there must have been some misunderstanding on the part of the soldiers; — that will be for you to consider — and if you find there was no necessity to enquire for the means of escape, you will hardly believe he did. As to his being there a second time, there was then some danger, and he could not get to the Council-house, and he might then be considering where he was to go to, because the mob was in the rear of the Palace, and in his front, if he at- tempted to go to the Council-house ; and therefore it was very natural. But, as to his asking these questions of the Serjeants, you have it in evidence by persons who were there, that no such discussion took place. But the whole of the time of his being at the Recruiting-office the second time, is not filled up by the persons who accompanied him. Mr. Serjeant Ludlow went away upon one occasion, and others were left with him, but they do not fill up the whole of the time spoken to by the Serjeants ; — they swear, that while they were there, nothing of the kind passed as is related by them — but the time is not quite filled up. Gentlemen, such a conversation might have taken place as is alleged, but I do not know that there is anything in it; supposing it was the case that the Mayor wished to escape, he might enquire the best means — he might not wish 424 to go out in front of the Recruiting office, where the mob was in full force, and he could not get away in the other direction ; therefore it was very natural that he should wish to escape, and he did afterwards make his escape, and went away as well as he could. Mr. Serjeant Ludlow went away first, the Mayor was left, and he went with Mr. Daniel. “ Now then, gentlemen, there is another charge about his going with Mr. Daniel. It appears he stood in the middle of College-green : he asked, ‘is there any thing more I can do,’ and Mr. Daniel said, ‘ nothing more/ Mr. Daniel then proposed to take him to Clifton. You observe that the Mayor had no habitation of his own except the Mansion-house, which he could not go to, and where was he to go ? — he must either remain lurking about the streets all night, or go to some habi- tation. It is suggested he might have remained at the Recruiting Office : you will consider whether it would have been prudent for him to remain there, a very little distance from the Palace, and where it would have been in all probability soon discovered that the Mayor was there, and if he had been discovered there, you cannot tell the consequences ; but it is for you to consider whether, if the Mayor had remained there, he would have been found out. Then, he says, ‘ I will not leave the city; Clifton is out of the bounds of the city, and I will not go there.’ Then Mr. Daniel suggested to him — ‘ My partner lives in this neigh- bourhood, — we will go there,’ — and he remains there for some time. The Mayor, at that time, is anxious to have it known where he was, and a person who was passing, whom Mr. Daniel did not know, was trusted with some letters he was to take to Mr. Serjeant Ludlow, and one of the Sheriffs, and several per- sons, to say where he was. The Mayor said, ‘I wish them to know where I am/ Then, upon that occasion, he is turned out, after he had remained there an hour. Mrs. Granger is very much alarmed ; she is afraid if it is known, the house might be attacked, and therefore Mr. Granger, in as quiet a way as he could, hinted to the Mayor that he could not remain in the house. Then, what was to be done ? After some time, it was suggested whether Mr. Fripp might not be at his brother’s house in Berkeley-square, and it was determined to go there r 425 and the Mayor went there accordingly ; but even there, there was some hesitation to receiving him; but having found a place of safety for the Mayor, Mr. Daniel went home to Clifton; and it appears to have transpired some way or other, we have no distinct evidence how, except that Mr. Lax, who lived next door, might have made it known — for he was aware of it, — and they were concerting means for their escape ; but it had trans- pired, although we have no notice of him till Mr. Serjeant Ludlow went there. It appears that Mr. Brice knew it, — where it came from, or how he learnt it, we do not know; but it ap- pears that Mr. Serjeant Ludlow went with him to get the billets for Captain Codrington’s troop ; those billets were signed, and it was distinctly stated by the Mayor, when the note was about to be sealed up, ‘ let it be distinctly understood where I am;’ and not only that, but that it was in a particular situation, so many doors from the corner of the street — so anxious was the Mayor, at that time, that it should be known. “ It appears, however, that early in the morning, between two and three o clock, a person who had been to Queen- square, and saw the mob to be very much reduced, thought that a small party of military would be sufficient to quell them : he had heard that the Mayor was at Mr. Fripp’s, — how he heard it we do not know, — but it is clear it was known that he was there : there was some difficulty in gaining admittance at first, but he was admitted ; and at that time it is clear it was known to several people. Mr. Serjeant Ludlow knew where to apply about the billets; this person, Mr. Goldney, knew where to apply to get the military ; and therefore it was known where he was ; and he says, that it was the Mayor’s suggestion, before the note was given to Mr. Goldney, that it should be mentioned where he was more distinct ly ; but Mr. Fripp seemed to think, as it had been mentioned in the former note, tbat it need not he mentioned again. Mr. Goldney took the note to Captain Warrington, who did not act upon it at the time : ulti- mately, Colonel Brereton did bring the troop in, and the mob were dispersed. Mr. Fripp, it appears, upon this occasion, de- sired Mr. Goldney not to say where the Mayor was; he might not wish it to be known, but there is no personal concealment on the part of the Mayor. 426 “ Then, gentlemen, there is some contradiction about what occurred at Mr. Sheriff Lax’s. The servant there says he knew the Mayor, and that there was some intimation given by Mr. Daniel, that he was not to tell where the Mayor was going : Townsend distinctly swears that all this passed. On the other hand, Mr. Daniel says that it did not pass, or he should have recollected it : he says it could not have passed, because, at the time he left Mr. Sheriff Lax s, he did not know where he was going; and that the reason he did not gain admittance there was, because Mr. Sheriff Lax’s family had gone away, and that directions had been left with the servants, that if the mob attacked the house, they were to throw the coping stones down from the roof, and get away as well as they could : he says he did not know where to go at that time, and that it was by mere chance that Mr. Fripp’s house was suggested ; he gives that reason why it could not have been mentioned. Gentlemen, that is denied. I do not think it is for you to consider the balance of testimony between Townsend and Mr. Daniel, be- cause there is no doubt that Mr. Daniel might wish it to be concealed ; whether he did or not, it does not appear that the Mayor wished it: however, it appears that the person in whose house he went wished him to be concealed, and that Mr. Daniel might express that wish to Townsend, and it might be no more than was proper; he might be afraid of its being known to more than the proper Authorities. Mr. Serjeant Ludlow knew where he was, and Mr. Goldney knew where he was ; and it is for you to say, whether that is that sort of concealment which is a dereliction of duty, in avoiding places where persons might have communication with him: it does not appear, that there is any other occasion to which the charge can apply. “ Then, as to the personal courage of the Mayor, see the testimony of Major Mackworth ; — he says, ha never saw a man more cool and collected in his life. He gives him credit for being perfectly cool and collected, though the stones were flying about him, — that he was the person most cool and collected of the party : and you have it from the other witnesses, that, on the Monday, he is perfectly cool and collected, — not having been in bed two nights. All the witnesses speak to his not 427 manifesting any want of personal courage, or seeming to be at all intimidated. “ Gentlemen, he was placed in a most unfortunate situation altogether. There was no military to act for him ; part of the military had been sent away, and part refused to act; the civil force only attended in small numbers, and in the situation he was in, what more could he do ? It appears there was a general kind of feeling against the Corporation as to the question about Reform, and there was no disposition oa the part of the people to quell the mob. “ Now, gentlemen, it is made a cause of complaint, that when the people went to the Guildhall the doors were closed, and the people could not get admittance. The doors would be very properly closed ; the great doors are not opened upon any occasion except when business is transacting, and it would not have been a prudent thing to have opened them ; but there were persons stationed at the other door, where people might have found their way in to the Magistrates. Then the witnesses say, there was no Magistrate to be found there the Magistrates were always in the building, although in a private room, because other witnesses saw the Magistrates there, and it does not appear that the Magistrates were concealing themselves in any way ; they seem to have come down upon those occasions whenever required. “ Gentlemen, I have omitted to state to you, that one of the charges is, that he did not do his utmost in endeavouring to pre- serve Queeu-square. That appeared to be a hopeless case— the mob there was infinitely beyond what it was in any of the other places — the Bridewell, the Gaol, or the Dock Gates, or the Bishop’s Palace ; the force there was immense, and according to the testimony of some of the witnesses, it would have required a very strong military force to quell them. He could not get there, — it was not in his power to get there, — he was between two fires, if I may use the expression — the mob pre- vented his getting forward in that direction, and the mob in the Bishop’s Palace shut him out the other way. Besides that, he had made his last effort in going up to the Bishop’s Palace — his people had left him, and he could not have gone to Queen- square, — he had not a single man at that time, and the mob was 428 so great that a very large force would have been necessary to have suppressed it. Certainly, the next morning, 'by two or three o'clock, when the people were tired of burning, then Mr. Goldney went to find out the Mayor and get directions for the military, — that was at five in the morning. “ Now, gentlemen, I have made a remark to you as to a small force being sufficient to defeat the mob on this occasion. In the first place, the question is, whether the Mayor could have had such a force ; — those men must have been extremely reso- lute men, who had been used to danger, and would face danger, because, according to one of the witnesses, by resolute men he meant men used to take knocks — men who did not mind taking hard blows as well as giving them, Had the Mayor any such men ? It may be said, it was his duty to hire them ; — it was no part of his duty to hire them ; if he had hired them, who was to pay for them ? But independently of that, he is not bound to hire such men— he is to collect all those who would come upon reasonable warning. “ Now, gentlemen, the only other remark I have to make is, as to the expression that was used to the Mayor by Major Beckwith, when the Magistrates one after another refused to accompany him, and the Mayor amongst others. They talk of saving their property, and the Mayor was one of those who refused to sign the order.” Mr. Justice Park. — “ He says, ‘ I requested one or two of the Magistrates to accompany me on horseback.’ ” Mr. Justice Littledale. — “Yes, — he says, ‘I went to the Council-house where I found the Mayor and three or four other of the Magistrates, and the Town-Clerk; — I introduced myself as the officer commanding the 14th dragoons; — I enquired where the squadron of the 14th, which had been sent out of Bristol, was; — they referred me to Colonel Brereton ; — the Magistrates then complained of Colonel Brereton not having supported them,— that they had no authority whatever, and that the moh was in complete possession of the city ; they told me, that the Riot Act had been repeatedly read ; upon hearing that statement, I requested that one or more Magistrates would accompany me on horseback — the sentence is imperfect.” Mr. Justice Park.— “ I will read it ‘ I requested that one or more of the Magistrates would accompany me on horseback; they all refused to do so ; upon which, I put the same question to them individually ; they all refused ; one said it would make him unpopular ; another, that it would cause his shipping to be destroyed; and another his property; — they also said, that none of them knew how to ride on horseback except one gentleman, the tall Mr. Alderman Hilhouse, who said, that he had not been on horseback for eighteen years, and that he would hold any body responsible who said a second time that he could ride.” Mr. Justice Taunton. — “ I have got it in the same words.*’ Mr. Justice Littledale. — “ I have omitted that part about the riding ; I have got it afterwards — ‘ I applied to the Mayor to ride with me, he spoke of his shipping,’ and so on. Gentle- men, with regard to that conversation where they talked of pre- serving their property, it might shew the quo animo, if a suf- ficient force had not been collected upon the former occasion ; and if there was what you thought amounted to a neglect of duty, you might think they were influenced in some measure by a desire to preserve their property ; but is any neglect proved ? You are to say, from any expression of that kind used, whether they wished to preserve their property ; if neglect is proved, there is an end of it. But we are only upon the conduct of the Mayor; — look at the whole conduct of Mr. Pinney, and see if it amounts to neglect of duty ; he did sign the order — he made no difficulty in affixing his signature — it was proved to have his signature, and to be addressed to Major Beckwith. You are to consider, looking at the conduct of Mr. Pinney, whether he was influenced by any desire about his property ; you have the whole of his conduct, and you will see whether he was likely to be influenced by it. The question can never^ arise, unless you think he has neglected his duty ; if you think it is doubtful, it can only arise in that way to explain what he has done ; it is not the duty of any Magistrate to ride with the troops.” “ Now, these are the general remarks I have to make upon the case — you have heard the evidence — if you wish me to go through the evidence, and make comments upon any parts of it, I will do so.*’ A JuftYMAN.— “ No, my Lord ; it is quite unnecessary.” 430 Mr. Justice Littledale. — “ If you do not wish that to.be done, the case is now entirely for your consideration. You see the difficulty in which any person in the situation of the Major is placed; on the one hand, he is put in a situation of extreme peril, if he exceeds his duty ; and he is placed in a situation of extreme peril . if, he does not come up to his duty ; and, at the same time, in point of law, if a man does not come up to the very point at which he is to do his duty, he is liable. “ The whole case is before you — you are to consider that this is a general indefinite charge — it is not any specific thing that is to be done, but a general dereliction of duty, not col- lecting a sufficient force — it is for your consideration. The question is, whether he used those means that the law directs, to call out a sufficient force — and whether, when the force was as- sembled, he made all the use that the law requires of such a force as he actually collected. He was not bound to endeavour to get any other force than that which came to him upon his warning — that is what the law required. “ It is a matter of very great importance to men acting as Magistrates in this country, I commented before upon the case of Mr. Kennet, where there was a specific charge brought against him, but the conviction of that individual has nothing to do with this case. “ There is no doubt a Magistrate is put in a situation of a very great degree of responsibility ; — you will take into consi- deration whether there has been criminal neglect ; — if jou are of opinion there has been criminal neglect you will find the Defendant Guilty ; — if there has not been criminal neglect, you will find him Not Guilty. It will not be necessary for me to state over again what I have already stated upon the law of the case. If either of my learned brothers wish to add any thing* by the rules of the Court, they are at liberty to address you.” Mr. Justice J. Parke. — “ It is not necessary at all.” Foreman of the Jury. — “ May we retire, my Lord?” Mr. Justice Littledale.— “ Certainly.” “ The Jury retired at a quarter before one o’clock, and returned into court at eight minutes past one. Mr. Dealtry. — “ Gentlemen of the Jury, are you agreed in your verdict?” 431 Foreman of the Jury. — “ We are.” Mr. Dealtry. — “ Do you find the Defendant Charles Pinney Guilty or Not Guilty of the misdemeanors imputed to his charge ?’* Foreman of the Jury.—' “WE UNANIMOUSLY FIND CHARLES FINNEY, LATE MAYOR OF BRISTOL, NOT GUILTY OF THE MISDEMEANORS IMPUTED TO HIS CHARGE. WE ARE UNANIMOUSLY OF OPINION, CIRCUMSTANCED AS HE WAS, MENACED AND OPPOSED BY AN INFURIATED AND RECK- LESS MOB,— UNSUPPORTED BY ANY SUFFICIENT FORCE, CIVIL OR MILITARY, — DESERTED IN THOSE QUARTERS WHERE HE MIGHT REASON- ABLY HAVE EXPECTED ASSISTANCE,— THAT THE LATE MAYOR OF BRISTOL ACTED, ACCORDING TO THE BEST OF HIS JUDGMENT, WITH ZEAL AND PERSONAL COURAGE.’* Sir James Scarlett. — “ My Lord, I am desirous, before the Jury withdraw, and in their presence, to assure your Lordships, that in the conduct of this cause, as far as I have beeu con- cerned, I have neither introduced, nor have I intended to intro- duce, any one topic that did not grow out of the evidence, and was not strictly connected with the cause. However, as his Majesty’s Attorney-Geneal did think fit yesterday Mr. Justice J. Parke. — “ It is quite unneccessary to make any observation of that kind : it is unfortunate that any remarks should be made upon persons not before the Court, or of a personal nature on one side or the other.” Sir James Scarlett. — “ Whoever gave my Learned Friend information that I had personal motives, or informed him of the facts he insinuated, has given him false and malicious in- formation ; and, whenever he makes a charge against me that I can reply to, I hope to be able to prove my own innocence, as well as I have proved that of Mr. Pinney.” Mr. Attorney-General. — “ I hope I shall be allowed - 432 Mr. Justice J. Parke — “ It ought not to be permitted.” Mr. Attorney-General. — “ Having heard one side, I hope you will hear the other. I was not in the least degree prepared for this most extraordinary statement of my learned friend. I beg to say, in the face of your Lordships, and of the Jury, and the country, upon my honour, as a gentleman, that I have introduced no topic that I did not think essential for the right disposal of the cause, and for me to deal with it in the manner I have dealt with it. As to what has been said of information conveyed to me, — no such information has been conveyed. I have merely stated what I thought right to remove a prejudice that I did not introduce. I appeal to the Jury, whether any personal topic was introduced by me, in bringing the case before them.” Mr. Justice J. Parke. — “ I must say, that I think this had better have been omitted on both sides.” Mr. Attorney-General. — “ I did not introduce it.” Mr. Justice J. Parke. — “ I do not know whether you mean to proceed with the other cases.” Mr. Attorney-General. — “ I have no intention to announce it now ; but those Gentlemen of the Jury attending in the other cases need not remain.” Butch and Martin, Printers, Small-Street, Bristol,