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Suite 1 1 00 Silver Spring, Maryland 20910 301/587-8202 Centimeter 1 2 3 L Mil 4 iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimiiiiimi # ill 6 7 8 9 iiliiiiliiiiliiiiliiiiliiiiliiiiliiii 10 11 iiiiliiiiliii 12 13 14 15 mm iiiiliiiiliiiiliiiiliiiiliiiiliiii T T I TTT I I I I I I I I I I I T 1 Inches .0 I.I 1.25 1^ IIIlM 1^ 2.5 |56 3.2 ~ t j 36 2.2 11 2.0 1.8 1.4 1.6 MfiNUFfiCTURED TO fillM STflNDPRDS BY APPLIED IMRGE, INC. Ho.^. SPEECH I or THE RIGHT HONORABLE WILLIAM SAURIN DELIVERED AT THE ROTUNDA; IX THE C[TY OF DUBLIN, ON THURSDAY, THE 19th FRBRI'ATIV, 1829; BEING THE SECOND GENERAL MEETING OF THE BRUNSWICK CONSTITUTIONAL CLUB OF IRELAND. DUBLIN : PRINTED BY ORDER OF THE CLUB, GEORGE WALKER. 1829. 1 SPEECH • r rtfK Rir.HT HONORABLE WILLIAM SAUUIN, ^. ^. <5reen sub- mitted to Parliament by the IVIinisters of tlic Crown. I can pay no regard to any qualification that may be intended to accom})any the mea, sure propouuden. I would tell them that while Jacobins are inculcating on their minds, that they are deprived of their natural rights, they are advancing allegations destitute of foundation. The right.s of man in a natural state, are those which secure to him the protection of his life, property, and character. But I t<'ll him, at the same time, that he has no rii>ht to ofiir^? — olTice does not exist in the natural state; tluTefore thht in anv man to office. Those situations are the creation of the Civil State, for the benefit of the State at large, and not for the benefit or gratification, of those who may obtain them. When the Roman Catholic is told, you liave a right to office — I ask, is it a natural or a civil ri^ht ? Natural Yizhi it is not — civil ri^rht it cannot be, unless it be conferred by the law of the State. The Roman Catholics are misled — their minds are poisoned when they are told by the incendiaries who are deluding them, that I they are deprived of their rights. Civil offices and Seats in Parliament are created bv the state for the public benefit. The law denies to all Protestants as well as Catholics the right to office and to seats in Parliament. The law creates and qualifies. The principles of our Constitution deny any such right. Those who have been in- culcating upon Catholics, that they are deprived of their rights because they cannot fill office or seats in Parliament, tell them that which is utterly politically false. In every state in which a Civil Government is established, the great object of the law, as far as human laws can provide, Ls, that those offices and places created for the public benefit and the public service, and not of the indi- viduals by whom they are to be tilled, should, if possible, be filled by the persons in the state, most fitted and best qualified to fill them. And such is the provision, and such the policy of our laws and Constitution, bv which whole classes, and the great majority of the people, are excluded from those offices and places, to which the Sovereign Power of the state is entrusted. Thus, under the British Constitution, women are excluded from all those offic<3s, from which the Roman CatholicvS are excluded. And why ? — because the law considers men more iiligible. Minors are excluded, because adults are considered better qualified. Every man who has not a real estate of £'300 a-year is also excluded — and why ? — because the man who has such estate is considered to be better qualified. This exclusion, or rather the prefe- rence which the law establishes in favour of the better qualified, was never before asserted to be injustice to the class postponed, nor to be intended as a stigma, or disgrace. 12 In myearly days this country was called the land of liberty ; and it was the pride and boast of every constitutional subject, that not only the native was free, but the Negro slave who set his foot upon her shores was enfranchised. But the inarch of intellect has sbice discovered that to be free, is to exercise the power of Government. There was then a standard of constitutional opinion — by it every thing was tried, and con- firmed, or rejected. Now that standard must be cast away, and we must launch the vessel of the state on the wide sea of uncertainty, with- out a pilot to guide, or a helm to direct her. Need I advert to the many laws on the statute book, by which classes of our fellow-subjects are disqualified from office and seats in Parliament. By one law, every person under twenty-one years is excluded from the House of Commons, on the principle that the law considers an adult better qualified ; and will any man say that those so disqualified are to be considered as slaves and out-laws ? By another act, a century in existence, no man can sit in Parliament unless he possess a real estate of three hundred pounds a-year, nor represent a county, unless he have property to twice that amount. That was a law, which disqualified from seats in Parliament the great mass of the community. These exclusions are founded on the prin- ciple that offices of state are not made for men, but that men the best qualified are to be sought for to fill them. It is a delusion to suppose that offices were created, or that seats in Parliament were intended as prizes for political adventurers, or to be trafficked upon as tne means of advancement in life. These are false views. Men may, it is true, get into Par- liament, and thereby advance their fortunes ; but it was never intended as a profession. 13 I come then to the exclusion of Roman Catholics from Parliament, and offices of the State. And why are they so excluded ? The Sovereign Power of the State is invested in the King, Lords, and Com- mons who comprise not more than twelve hun- dred individuals out of twenty millions. Are the remaining nineteen millions nine hundred and ninety-eight thousand in a state of outlawry and slavery, because of their exclusion ? — These delusions have no foundation either in political reason or political truth, they are, however, the cause that our constitution, which was, as we thought, deliberately and conclusively settled in 1688, is now in danger of another revolution. It was then settled—on the principle that in the dis- tribution of the offices of State, those should be se- lected who were best qualified to till them — it was then settled, that those in whom the Government of the State should be vested, should be Protestant and not Roman Catholic ? My Lord, that provision was not, as has been falsely and cruelly asserted, and mis- chievously inculcated on the minds of Roman Catholics, intended as a stain upon their charac- ter or their religion, nor as a slur upon their ability, or integrity. It has ever been part of the British Constitution, unlike the American, to have a national religion and an Established Church — an establisment as old as the Constitution itself — an establishment of high rank, great possessions, sharing in the legislative, and administering a great portion of the executive ; and speaking politically of that establishment, it is undoubtedly one of the great bulwarks of the hereditary monarchy. About three hundred years since, a great Revolution took place in the national religion, and the ecclesiastical establishments of the State, from which resulted diirerences of opinions of the \) u most scrioUvQ (loscription. Proto^f^nts dissented from the reliuion established at that period. Ihey dissented from the relip:ion professed by their Roman Catholic fellow-subjects and rejected that Church to which the Roman Catholics ad- hered^ 1 will admit, conscientiously and faith- fully; but those who diiVered from them, as conscientiously believed the doctrines of then* Church to be erroneous, and the political cha- racter and constitution of it, and the Institu- tions appertaining- to it, to be incompatible with the independence of the Crown, or the liberties of the people. What was the consequence? The majority of the people of this United Kingdom, in population more than two to one, in rank, property, and education, at h ast one hundred to one, rejected that re- lio:ion from which they dissented, and esta- blished the Protestant religion in its stead. The minority adhered with fidelity to their religion, but let it be recollected that Protestants with equal sincerity dis^:ented. It was not for twenty Tears after this revolution had occurred, that any alteration took place in the civil constitution of the government ; nothing was done theoretically, or under the intluence of religious feeling. In the first year of the reign of Queen Elizabeth, the policy commenced of giving a preference to Protestants by a Test, the effect of which was to exclude Roman Catholics from all oHices in the State derived from the Crown, in the 5th year of Elizabeth, the same Test was extended to the members of the House of Commons. That policy from its commencement was never relaxed, but gradually extended. In the 13th Charles II. it wa^^ extended to corporate offices. In the 25th Charles II. the Sacramental Test was superadded and required as a qualification for all offices in the State. It so rcmtiined until the 30th Obarlos i •;gfe 15 II. when it was extended to the House of Lords, though its members sat there by hereditary right. So things remained until the effort made by that* unfortunate King, v/hose history has been so Avell detailed by my Learned Friend, (Mr, Serjeant Lefroy,) who, endeavouring taoverturn the estab- lished religion, and liberties of the nation, was by the nation expelled from the Throne, and that po- licy which had commenced in the iirst year of Queen Elizabeth,andhadbeengradually extended from that period, was then reviewed, perfected, and completed, by the exclusion of Roman Catholics from the Crown, not merely by a Test, but by express and positive enactment. For it is a prominent part of t>ur great Constitutional Char- ter, that the King on the Throne, if he shall be a Papist, or even marry a Papist, shall forfeit his Crown, and his subjects be therel)y absolved from their oaths of allegiance. We have heard advo- cates in Parliament for this revolutionary measure, treat the constitutional settlement of 1688, as the ebullition of a moment. Never was a Constitution more fully considered or deliberately settled, and by men of singular ability and knowledge, particularly the know- ledge of the Laws and Coisstitution of the Coun- try. It was the completion and the consummation of that policy which had commenced more than a century before, and v/hichwas then completed, by the exclusion of Roman Catholics from every j)art of the Government, and the whole of the Executive and Legislative power of the State vested exclusively in Protestants. Under tliut Constitution so settled, and by such men, we have since lived and llourished, for a period of a hundred and forty years. No man who has advocated this measure in Parliament, has ven- tured to say, that the Constitution as then .set- tled has failed to aniwer the end and purposes of its instittition. A 16 And therefore, my Lord, I will my in the words of the resolution, '* that the measure con- templated is uncalled for by any necessity, and unjustiliable by any sound political principle." Not only, my Lord, is there no necessity for the proposed measure, but after the most anxi- ous consideration which I have bestowed upon the subject for a period of thirty years, I can see no reason, much less discover a principle, why we should depart from this Constitution. If it be said it is because that Constitution deprives Roman Catholics of their rijj:hts, I have already adverted to that subject ; and now repeat, that no subject of the realm, Protestant or Roman Catholic, has any right to the Executive or Legis- lative offices of \he State; even those who being qualified according to law, are duly appointed to those offices, do not take or hold them as a rii^ht or a privilege conferred on them for their personal benefit or gratification ; but in the con- templation of the law and the Constitution, as an obligation and a duty imposed upon them for th^- benefit and service of the public. The object in the view which I am taking of this subject, is not to divide, but to reconcile us. Many of the Roman Catholics of this country have sense enough to know how much they have been abused, and to discern the artifices and delusions which have been employed to disaffeet their minds to that free Government, in the preservation of which they are as much interested i s we are, and which has been assailed for tie last forty years as a violation of their rights — n(»t those natural and imprescriptable rights, whii h the Constitution holds sacred, but Paine's Rights of Man. It is under the delusion of his doctrines that the British Constitution has been assail- ed and decried for the last forty years. Fie 17 derided your hereditary Government, and foimd- ing his theory on the Constitution of his own country, maintained that it was the right of men to govern themselves. If you will analyze the arguments that have been most successful in the advocacy of this measure in Parliament, you will find that they resolve themselves into a retail of Paine's Rights of Man. The Constitutional settlement of 1688 was a settlement consonant with justice; and, as I think I have proved, not violatory of the rights of any man; a settlement founded on wise and sound policy, a^ best calculated to maintain the Pro- testant Religion — the Protestant Institutions of the country, — the Protestant Church Establish- ment, — and the exclusively Protestant succession of the Crown, (which it is now proposed to strengthen, by removing Protestants from the Government and the House of Commons, in or- der to replace them by Roman Catholics,) as liest calculated to establish unity and consistency in the councils of the State, and the proceedings of the legislature. The measure now proposed, professing to settle a question, suffer me to say, will, in my opinion, settle nothing It may, and will reverse a policy which we have adhered to for 260 years ; it will unsettle mens' minds, — it will unsettle the Constitutional settlement of 1688, — it will destroy all standard of Constitutional sentiment and opinion, but it will settle nothing. It must be considered as a compromise with that spirit of radicalism and democracy, supported by the spirit of party, which has long been encroachiiig upon our Constitution, and threatening it in all its parts and proportions. And in order to effect this com- promise, we must surrender a vital part of our Constitution, — and what consideration will the IS nation receive for that siurender, \r lieu that sur- render shall have be(ni made? I ask, will not the spirit of radicalism and democracy subsist? Will it not renew its assaults on our Constitution with increased vi^jor, and an ardor renovated from success? And will not the same spirit of party which has attbrded countenance and encourage- ment to all the assaults on om* Constitution for the last forty years, still be found to exist? And I would ask, when these assaults shall be renewed, where will be founy whom these assaults can be longer resisted ? I do therefore, my Lord, look with apprehension and dismay to the measure in contemplation, as directly tending to the downfall of the British Constitution, it is our duty however to use our best elForts to maintain Hs integrity. I shall therefore now conclude, by moving " That we nre of opinion, thiit the measure contemplated Is uncalled for by any necessity, and unjustifiable by any sound political principle* which Las hitherto directed tlie policy of ci\ilized nations." X *".S ;ftni^. • 7 r- •x /J :f /\^ t I '•'X ^ y