37th Congress, ) HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. ( Report • 3d Session. j ( No. 49. GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. March 3, 1863. — Laid on the table and ordered to be printed. Mr. Fenton, from the select committee to inquire into contracts of the government, made the following REPORT. The special committee of the House, appointed to inquire into all the facts and circumstances connected with contracts and agreements by or ivith the government growing out of its operations in suppressing the rebel- lion, submit the following final report: Since the last report, submitted 'to the House on the 17th day of July, 1862. your committee have confined their labors principally to the investigation with which they were charged by the resolution of the House, of February 26, 1862, instructing said committee to "inquire into the amount of moneys received by the federal officers in the city of New York by virtue of their offices ; also as to the ownership and rents of the bonded warehouses ) also the terms, con- siderations, and profits of the labor contracts for the storing, hauling, and delivery, &c. , of foreign goods in the city of New York ; when made, by whom, and who are now interested in the same." The labors of the committee have extended through a period of twenty months, and their reports and the testimony taken will cover nearly three thousand pages of printed matter. They have endeav- ored faithfully to discharge the important and onerous duties confided to them, and the result of their labors may be found in the many mil- lions of dollars saved to the treasury through their investigations. The disclosure of the transactions which brought reproach upon the western department in the summer and fall of 1861, brought upon your committee no small amount of obloquy and reproach from the parties implicated in the frauds which were exposed. A court-martial, con- stituted of distinguished officers of the regular army of high rank, was convened to try 3Iajor Justus McKinstry, quartermaster of the United States army, who was charged with corrupt practices as a public officer while acting in that department. The sixty-one speci- fications under the charge were nearly, if not quite, all based upon the testimony taken by your committee. After a trial of almost unprecedented length, in which the accused was allowed every lati- tude for his defence, he was found guilty, in whole or in part, on twenty-six specifications. He was convicted of the charge, and Digitized by the Internet Archive in 2014 http://archive.org/details/governmentcontraOOunit_0 37th Congress, ) HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, j Report 3d Session. j ( No. 50. GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS March 3, 1863. — Laid on the table and ordered to be printed. Mr. Van Wyck, from the select committee on government con- tracts, submitted the following as the VIEWS OF THE MINORITY. PREFACE,. On the 26th day of February, 1862, the following, on my motion, was adopted unanimously by the House : Resolved, That the committee on government contracts be directed to inquire into the amount of moneys received by the federal officers in the city of New York, by virtue of their offices ; also as to the ownership and rents of the bonded warehouses ; also the terms, considerations, and profits of the labor con- tracts for the storing, hauling, and delivering, &c, of foreign goods in the city of New York ; when made, by whom, and who are now interested in the same. The day after, I was informed that Mr. Washburne had prepared a resolution to discharge this committee from its consideration, and refer it to a committee to which Congress had refused the power to send for persons and papers, or hold its sittings in any place except Washington. I immediately saw and remonstrated with him. He alleged that this committee had already work enough to occupy its time. I assured him I would assume the labor of taking the testi- mony, and thereb}^ the time of the other members would not be re- quired. He requested me to see other members of the committee. I immediately did — all who were present in the hall, Messrs. Hol- man, Dawes, and Fenton. They consented that the resolution should be retained by this committee, on condition that I should take the testimony. I then informed Mr. Washburne of their conclusion, to which he assented; and it was understood distinctly that the evidence should be taken by myself. Such had previously been the uniform practice of the committee, that testimony could be taken by less than a quorum. Accordingly, on the 11th March I went to New York city and commenced my labors. I then found the committee in ses- sion with only one member, Mr. Dawes, who left that night. He re- quested me to finish some investigations he had commenced. I declined on the ground it would require all the time I could spare to examine the matters of the above resolution. Mr. Dawes left the 2 GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. same night. I continued the meetings of the committee with the same stenographer and in the same room. I held session from day to day until the 24th March, and had examined fifty witnesses. Not one of them objected to testify, or raised the point that less than a quorum had authority to administer oaths. On the 22d March I was informed some of the custom-house officials had stated that the evidence was not fairly taken, that all the testi- mony of the witnesses had not been recorded. I immediately wrote the following note: March 22, 1862. Gentlemen : I understand it is claimed that all your evidence was not taken down by the stenographer of the committee. I wish you would appear to-day at room 383 of the St. Nicholas, to have inserted in your evidence anything which was omitted and to add anything thereto you may desire. Yours, &c, C. H. VAN WYOK. Messrs. Wardell, Bayard, Hunter, Benedict, and Craig. and the same day it was served on each of the above-named by the acting sergeant-at-arms. All, or nearly all, of the witnesses appeared. They were friends of the revenue officers: heard read their testimony, expressed themselves satisfied, and pronounced it correct. On the 24th day of March I received the following despatch by telegraph: Washington, March 24, 1S62. I am instructed by the committee to direct that you proceed no further in your investigations in New York until further orders. E. B. WASHBURNE. This despatch resulted from the clamor of the revenue officers and their friends. I discontinued; returned to Washington; my regiment was under marching orders, and in a few days moved with the army of the Potomac, and was absent with it for many months. Up to the time of my leaving it was not pretended to me that the testimony was not regularly taken, or without the authority of the committee. One of the committee, who evidently had been in communication with the New York custom-house, and some others of the committee, thought it was best, inasmuch as the revenue officers were claiming that a quorum was not present, to delay further proceedings until a quorum could meet; and it was not then lisped or intimated tome that the evidence already taken was without authority of the committee. The subsequent action of the committee showed it was clone by their authority. So much solicitude for persons implicated by evidence had not been manifested before. When the honorable member from Penn- sylvania, Mr. Davis, desired that his brother, a quartermaster, to whom allusion had been made in the evidence taken by less than a quorum, at St. Louis, should be sent for as a witness, I desired he GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. should be subpoenaed, but some of these same members said no: let him come and he can be sworn, but we cannot put the government to the expense of subpoenaing him. When General Fremont's friends, after his operations in the west, had been questioned by testimony taken by less than a quorum, desired he should be subpoenaed, I urged that it be done, and the day before leaving Washington left a written request with a member of the committee, so that my position might not be misunderstood, asking that he should be subpoenaed. Some of these same members said no; he can appear before the com- mittee if he chooses, but we will not subpoena him ; yet when the revenue officers of the city of New York waive the magic wand, these same gentlemen order the investigation to be suspended. Nearly all the testimony taken by this committee has been by less than a quorum: at least seventy sessions have been so taken, sometimes by one, two, and three members : sometimes the committee have been sitting at two places at the same time. It may be said that a full meeting of the committee authorized it to be so taken, but such was not always the fact. The testimony I took was fairly taken. Among the number I examined several from the custom-house. Now, I state distinctly that the committee, in the spring of 1862, considered this testimony as having been properly taken. In the first place, if 1 was taking it without authority, why did the committee claim to control my action by sending a despatch to discontinue until further orders? That shows they had a knowledge of my doings, that I was acting by their au- thority and approbation, and that I was under their control. 2. They procured from the stenographer a copy of the evidence so taken and paid him for the same. 3. The House had by resolution ordered this inquiry, and they would not have dared to violate the instructions by neglecting to take testimony; yet they suffer the whole session to pass and really do nothing until September 9, (although in April and May sessions were held in New York city, at one of which Mr. Ogden was examined by them, whose testimony occupied part of two pages,) and con- sidering the testimony taken by me as the testimony of the committee r proceed immediately to allow the defence to be heard, and examine no witnesses except those of the household of the custom-house r including Messrs. Barney, Andrews, Dennison, Isaacs, Archer, Brown r &c, and the whole nature of the examination is to exculpate and clear from the evidence taken in March last. The committee had knowledge of the evidence, and the revenue officers had evidently read or been informed of it. The questions of the committee and the answers are predicated upon the testimony previously taken and to contradict certain por- tions of it. The whole examination at that time, the form and spirit of the ques- tions, teas to relieve and shield the officers from the evidence previously taken. It is unaccountable, if the committee considered the evidence taken in March not taken by due authority, that they should have defiantly ignored the resolution of the house, and in September employed only 4 GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. one day in examining questions of varied import. No; the evidence was tin n deemed valid, and when the custom-house officers had their dav in court the work was supposed to be completed. Nothing fur- ther was said or done about the matter until my return to the present session, when action was insisted upon. It was agreed to have a meeting in New York to conclude that and other matters. 1 was informed in Washington that the custom-house officers, or some of them, had threatened and denounced the com- mitter, and would prosecute any person who should publish the evi- dence taken in March. As far as I may be able, they shall have an opportunity to commence a suit. What took place in New York will be explained by the following resolutions The first resolution was passed in my absence, when 1 was led to believe there would be no meeting of the committee. On the 17th day of December it was — " Resolved, That inasmuch as certain testimony has been taken by one mem- ber of the committee, in the absence of a quorum, touching the official conduct of certain federal officers in New York under objection from them, therefore the committee will examine such testimony, and whenever it appears that the testi- mony of any such witness so taken is found to affect the official conduct of any such person, such witness shall be re-examined, and so far as his testimony on re-examination affects the official conduct of any federal officer in New York it shall be submitted to him for his inspection." There is no pretence that the testimony ivas taken without the authority and approbation of the committee. Mark, they do not object, but the federal officers do. When I ascertained the nature of the resolution I offered the fol- lowing, which was voted down: " Whereas, at a meeting of this committee at Washington, a few days since, it was agreed and understood that a full meeting of the committee should be held in New York city to complete the investigation relating to the New York cus- tom-house and other matters ; whereas it was understood, before leaving Wash- ington, that the committee should meet in the basement No. 14 Pine street, a room tendered by Hon. E. Haight for the use of the committee; and whereas a portion of the committee, in the absence of Messrs. Holman and Van Wyck, Mr. Holman not yet having reached the city, and Mr. Van Wyck was at 14 Pine street awaiting the committee until he learned they had secured a room in the custom-house, called on Hon. H. B. Stanton, deputy collector, was shown the room in state of preparation for the committee, not yet cleaned or warmed, who waited in the room of Mr. Stanton some time for the members of said com- mittee, and when several of them had arrived it was understood that no meeting should be held that day as there were no witnesses present, and Mr. Holman had not arrived, yet before that interview a portion of the committee had met in another room in the custom-house, not the one assigned to the committee, and adopted the resolution of December 17th, therefore — Resolved, That said resolution of December 17 be reconsidered. I then asked leave to have the following protest placed on the journal of the committee, which was denied : C. H. Van Wyck, a member of the committee, desires to have entered upon the journal of this committee his protest against any action by this committee, whereby any part of tin? evidence taken by him in March last, in the city ot GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. 5 New York, as to moneys received by the federal officers in the city of New York, &c, shall be suppressed or not published. While he is willing that any of the witnesses examined by him shall be allowed, at their own suggestion or the request of any of the officers they implicate, to again appear before the com- mittee and make any explanation or addition they desire, he is not willing to do anything on his part which may be considered a relinquishment of his right to have such testimony, so taken by him, published. That all the witnesses examined by him appeared, and were examined with- out any objection on their part. By the committee's resolution of December 17 they recognized the validity of the testimony. They do not object to any part thereof, they only shoiv an amiable tenderness to those portions which reflect upon the revenue officers, and propose to examine only the witnesses implicating them. The other portions of the testimony they did not propose to disturb. The committee did not then pretend the evidence had been taken without their authority . I then and there declined to do any act which would seem a waiver on my part of the right to use all the testimony pre- viously taken. This evidence was before the committee. The clerk of the com- mittee had made an abstract of the same for its use; yet, most re- markable of all, but two or three of the witnesses, reflecting upon the public officers, are recalled, and the most important ones are not sum- moned. The reason of this a discerning public will determine. If there had been errors, injustice, and corruption in the custom- house in other times, it had not evidently been purged under the ad- ministration of the present officers; that was so plain that he who runs may read. The evidence was concluded in New York, and the journal shows that on the tenth of January testimony was taken by one member of the committee, Mr. Dawes, and on the twenty-sixth by one member, Mr. Fenton; yet that evidence did not reflect on the revenue officers. It possibly makes some difference whose ox is gored On Monday evening, February 9, I called on Mr. Andrews, clerk of the committee at Washington, to examine the evidence taken in March, and was informed by him I could not see it except by order of the committee. I inquired as to the journal, and if the resolu- tion I had offered in New York, and had been voted down, was prop- erly entered there. He replied, no; that the committee had ordered it should not be entered in the journal. I called on each member of the committee to. know about the order preventing an inspection of the testimony, and every one except Mr. Washburne disclaimed any knowledge of any such order or action of the committee. A meeting of the committee was held on the evening of February 11, when I insisted upon my right, as a member, to examine such evidence. By this act the committee recognized it as their evidence, for had 1 taken it without authority then it belonged to me, and they had no control over it, but there was a persistent determination on the part of some of the members to prevent me from seeing it. At that meeting Messrs. Fenton, Washburne, and Holman were present, 6 GOV KRNMENT CONTRACTS. and they were willing 1 should take the evidence if I would pledge myself not to use it. 1 spurned the proposition, and treated it as it deserved. What can be the motive lor such conduct? Why were they afraid of the evidence? Was it because the cus- tom-house officers had threatened? Was the evidence harmless, then no body could be injured by its publication. Could it be contra- dicted, then nothing more easy, for the custom-house did not want for friends on the committee. Did it show corruption and criminate tin officers, then duty required its exposure. However, a resolu- tion was read by Mr. Washburne saying* it should be deposited with the clerk of the House for the inspection of members of the com- mittee, and the resolution, as read, substantially said no more. On the next day I understood that the resolution contained the words "that the testimony was taken without authority of the committee.'' If such words were in the resolution they were omitted in reading, evidently for a purpose, for I would not quietly have suffered that to pass on the journal; and the next day I asked Mr. Holman if any such words were read, and he emphatically denied it. I am thus minute in this matter, for this attempt to falsify the record and interpolate, first, to have a declaration of the committee against the evidence and against myself, that I had acted without authority, gives me the right, as a matter of the highest privilege, to vindicate myself, and is clearly a justification for stating what took place in the committee room. Since writing the above I have obtained, and have now in my pos- session, the original resolution ; I give it entire, so the world may see the motive which actuated, and the ends sought to be accomplished by any means, no matter how unfair and dishonorable. The resolu- tion was written at the room of Mr. Fenton, in the National Hotel, where the committee was in session, by Mr. Washburne, and was writ- ten with ink. The resolution, as read by Mr. Washburne, did not contain the words which are now interlined. The interlinations are in pencil and were not put in when first written, for ink w r as used; and could not have been put in at that time, for he would not have procured a pencil when pen and ink was by his side. The resolution was drawn up just as Mr. Hollman and myself were leaving; here it is, as read to the committee: " Ordered, that certain testimony taken by Mr. Van Wyck, in New York, be deposited by the clerk of this committee with the Clerk of the House, with directions to the said Clerk to hold it in his posses- sion, subject only to the inspection of any member of the committee. ,? In the body of the resolution are three erasures in ink; one inter* lination in ink erased in ink, and the word it interlined in ink. The resolution as it how appears is as follows: Ordered, that certain testimony taken by Mr. Van Wyck, in New York, without the authority of the committee, be deposited by the clerk of this committee with the Clerk of the House of .Representatives, with directions to the said Clerk to hold it in his possession, subject only to the inspection of any member of the committee.' ? The words 11 without authority of the committee,'' 1 and ' l qf Repre- sentatives" interlined in pencil. GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. 7 That gives character and motive to the whole of the attempts to suppress this evidence. Foolish man ! Did he expect by this leger- demain to keep back the frauds of the custom-house? Vain hope! Look for a moment at the resolution as drawn, read, and acted upon by the committee wlio recognized it as testimony, and the committee are making disposition of it as testimony of the committee; but after it is discovered he was snared in his own meshes, then it is interpolated to remove the difficulty, never believing that the evidences of the mode of procedure would ever be seen by the public. The next day the evidence was and now is deposited with the Clerk of the House. I have printed with this report only a part; such portion as illustrates the views I propose to offer in regard to the matters embraced in the resolution. It will remain with the Clerk, to be used by this or the next House of Congress if they desire. MONEYS RECEIVED BY REVENUE OFFICERS. By the resolution the committee were instructed to inquire — First, as to the amount of moneys received by the federal officers in the city of New York. This involved the. examination of many witnesses, and in regard to the revenue officers a great diversity in judgment. One thing is remarkable: that the collector, Barney, surveyor, Andrews, and naval officer, Dennison, are neither of them able to say how much money they received, they will only swear that Mr. Ogden, the auditor, has the account of it. Mr. Ogden, from his re- port, made up in January last, shows from $21,000 to $22,000 yearly to each of those officers; while Mr. Cargill, formerly deputy collector, and fully competent to know, fixes the amount of the last four years, independent of salary, to each, $150,000, and Mr. George D. Bayard, at present in the seizure bureau, capable of judging, makes the amount $30, 000, annually, independent of salary. As if these enormous sums are not enouuh for the collector, he has, in addition, commissions on States' fees collected by his authority, viz: harbor master's, health officer's, and the seaman's retreat hospital fees, amounting to nearly $4,000. There was, of necessity, in March last much inquiry as to the source and the manner of obtaining penalties and forfeitures. And it would appear that all the censurable practices of the custom-house are still retained. It is not only unjust to persons charged with violations of the revenue laws but to the honest and honorable importer. Honest merchants have to pay an excess of duties in order to avoid the ra- pacity of the system, and the practices which now prevail would dis- grace a mock auction or Peter Funk establishment. The evidence shows that nearly all the violations of the revenue laws are not smuggling really, but introducing goods undervalued; nine-tenths of the fines, penalties and forfeitures are from that source. The evidence further shows that efficient and honest officers could prevent or rather detect at the time of its commission such violations of the laws. But the interest of the revenue officers is not to detect 8 GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. and punish at the time, but to encourage such infractions, for it leads to large sums in the future. A man will be allowed to continue with slight undervaluations, from time to time, and when a large stock of goods presents then an army of custom-house officers come suddenly upon him. seize all his goods, whether or not liable to forfeiture, take all his books, private papers, ill of lading bo ex pressed. Question. The collector has the power of giving the general order and saying what storehouse these goods shall enter? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. Are there different districts in the city ? Answer. Yes, sir; there are quite a number of districts. Question. Who fixed the prices of storage of goods in these w an-houses I Answer. They generally fixed themselves. About three or four year.- ago a great deal was said, and there was complaint by the merchants of New York about tli«' exorbitant charges on those things coming into this general order of storage, and a table was drawn up stating what the rates of storage should be, and I think on the largest-sized packages the rates should be forty and forty, that is, forty cents labor and forty cents storage, that is, for the first month. Labor is never charged but once; that pays for putting and taking out; forty cents storage is alw ays charged for the first month ; those are the rates, I should say. I have got a case now where we are obliged to pay something like a dollar and a half on the package, instead of eighty cents; it is a small matter. The person does not want to go to the Secretary of the Treasury or the collector, and so he lets it go. Question. By whom was the rate of storage and labor fixed? Answer. The complaint was drawn up and submitted to the Chamber of Com- merce, and they thought that was a fair rate. The warehousemen, as a general thing, do not go by those rates fixed by the Chamber of Commerce. Question. Have the rates been increased latterly? Answer. A ery much; they have now got up from 40 and 40 to 90 and 125, and now we do not know where they will stop. Question. Is that generally so now \ Answer. 1 believe it is. I have paid a great deal of storage. Question. Is it a matter of general complaint ! Answer. Y'es, sir. I speak of my own merchants ; we do business for about one hundred and twenty importers. Question. In different parts of the city I Answer. All over the city. We do business for Philadelphia and Boston, also. Question. Different districts in this city ? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. Y'ou were speaking, a little while ago, about the collector proper sharing in this ; if he shares in this, it is done, of course, with the proprietors of stores \ Answer. I do not know that it is. Question. If he does, it is done with them ? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. Y'ou were speaking of Mr. Humphreys. Answer. I said I always believed that Mr. Schell had some connexion with the former men in the storage business, and Humphreys bought them out. Question. Who, under Mr. Schell, had control of the general orders of goods? Answer. Quite a number. 1 do not know that I can give all of them. Question. Mention some of them. Answer. Mclntire, Bixby &z Co. was the main firm; they had the contract at No. 12 Broad street; and there was Mr. Squiers, Sand 10 Bridge street, who, 1 think, was always fair and straightforward; and there was Mr. Livingston, M. S. Briggs & Co., and others. Question. Bixby, Mclntire & Co.; what had they to do with the general orders, and how were they interested in the general order of storage? had they a storehouse in which they stored goods ? Answer. Yes, sir. GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. 41 Question. Where is (heir warehouse ? Answer. They had 56 and 78 Greenwich street, and 345 and 371 Washing- ton street, and I think they had (I won't be certain) also 102 and 104 North Moore street. Question. Did they own these stores ? Answer. Rented them, I believe. Question. Are they interested now in the general orders? Answer. I believe they are in part. Question. Do you know who is interested with them ? Answer. No, sir. Question. Do you know whether Mr. Humphrey is concerned in any of the stores I Answer. Only from what was said to me. Question. What was said to you ; by whom, and where ? Answer. What was said to me was by the storekeeper. I asked if Mclntire, Bixley & Co. carried on the store, (they were the former proprietors,) aud he said they did not ; but that Mr. Humphrey had bought them out. I asked if it was James Humphrey, broker, from Brooklyn. I was told it was. I asked if he was ever there, and he said he came in some times and looked about and went out again. I remarked that I supposed he came and got his money and then quit ; that was all that was said. Question. These men first hire the store ? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. And then the business they do is the receiving, keeping, and stor- ing of the goods sent there under general orders \ Answer. Yes, sir; and the more they swindle the merchants of New Y~ork r the more money they make ; because they do swindle them. Question. They do now in this high rate of charges \ Answer. Yes, sir; it is shameful, disgraceful — I believe that. Edward C. Johnson, sworn: Question. Where do you reside ? ■ Answer. I reside in this city. Question. What is your business? Answer. I am in the bonded warehouse business. Question. How long have you been in the bonded warehouse business ? Answer. Nearly ten years. Question. Where are your stores I Answer. 6, 8, and 10 Bridge street. Question. Are you alone? Answer. Of the firm of Squire & Johnson. Question. You have been in the bonded warehouse business ten years ? Answer. Y'es, sir. Question. During that time have you stored goods under the general order ? Answer. Part of the time. This general order business was not established until during the last five or six years. Question. How were goods given under the general order ? Answer. The collector had power to send them to any store he pleased. Question. And the collector would send them to your store ? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. It is now five or six years since the system of general orders was introduced ? Answer. Y^es, sir. Question. Still the colleotor has the power to send where he pleases ? Answer. I think he has. 42 GOVERN M ENT CONTRACTS. Question. And can ehange it at pleasure I Answer. Yes, sir; this collector has changed it. There is no law of Con- gress abort it. Question. Ea this city divided into districts ( Answer. Yes, sir. Question. How many districts are there now I Answer. There were before the present collector came in more than now. The districts od the East river are from Battery to Wall st reet, from Wall street to Pier 45, and from Pier 45, all above on the East river. The vessels coming within a given district are required to discharge at the store of their district. Question. Previous to five years ago there was a special order made in every case ? Answer. Yes, sir; except that if a merchant has regular invoices, and all straight, he can put them where he pleases. Question. But if he cannot get his orders through the custom-house before the time for unloading, they have got to go under general order ? Answer. Yes, sir; merchants sometimes, instead of getting merchants' orders prefer to put their goods in bond, because they do not want to pay duties on them immediately. We took in ten thousand chests of tea yesterday under merchants' orders. Question. You received those ten thousand chests of tea under merchants' orders. They could not order them to any other place % Answer. No, sir. Question. Suppose this ship lands in your district, the collector would not give a permit to take the goods into another district % Answer. Yes, sir ; anywhere the merchant pleases, in a bonded warehouse. Question. Then the merchants can put their goods where they choose % Answer. They can, if they have an invoice and everything is regular. Question. Then it is only those who do not get their invoices through in the required time that have to go to the general store % Answer. Yes, sir." Question. But those who get them through in time may put them where they please ? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. But they must put them in a bonded warehouse I Answer. Yes, sir, if the duties are not paid. Question. Do you give security to anybody for the safe keeping of those goods '? Answer. Yes, sir; we give bonds to the United States government that we will keep those goods until the duties are paid ; and if they are stolen or lost, that we will pay for them and pay the duties. Question. You occupy a sort of official relation to the government 1 Answer. Certainly. Question. That is the reason they cannot go into a private storehouse? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. You become responsible to the government for the duties? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. And to the owners of the goods ) Answer. Yes, sir. Question. Have these districts been changed or increased since Mr. Barney came in ? Answer. No, sir; I think that they have been diminished. I think there may be nominally just as many districts, only Bowen has a commission on the two upper ones on the East river. Merle & Co. have one of the general order stores and we have one. GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. 43 Question. It appears already from the evidence that the collector has power to dispose of the general order store. Now, are the rates which you charge on the general orders fixed? Answer. The prices are fixed by the Chamber of Commerce. We do not charge any more than the Chamber of Commerce prices ; but some of them do. We are governed by the Chamber of Commerce prices. These are double the prices the merchant pays when he puts his goods in outside stores, as business is now-a-days. Question. Are there men that have bonded storehouses that do not have general orders? Answer. Oh, yes, sir. There are but few general order houses. Question. Any man who chooses can have a bonded warehouse by giving security ? Answer. Yes, sir. Question. Then the merchants go where they can get cheapest ? Answer. Yes, sir. Or where they think there are the safcst and most re- sponsible men. Question. When Mr. Barney came in as collector, was anything said to you about the continuance of your store as a general order store ? Answer. No, sir. I made application to Mr. Barney to have it continued. Question. What conversation did you have with Mr. Barney about that? Answer. He was so busy I did not talk much with him. He did not under- stand it, and could not tell me. Question. Did you see him more than once? Answer. I saw him but once, though I went half a dozen times. Question. Did you pursue your application further ? answer. I wrote to him a letter, and he never answered me. Question. Y^ou wrote your letter desiring to continue? Answer. I found there had been some goods sent to other stores not general order stores, the owner of which was was a democrat, and fought us all the way through. I wrote him a saucy letter, and that was the only way I could get an answer, and he answered. Then I wrote an apology afterwards. He as much as said I should retain it. He did not say so. Y T ou could not make it one way or the other; but the inference was that I should retain it; and I then wrote him a mild letter in reply to that. Question. What then happened ? Answer. I did not hear much more about it. I kept pushing at it among my friends. I went to Mr. Opdyke about it, and he said I should certainly retain it ; there should be no mistake about it. The next thing I heard was, that a man by the name of Lambert called upon me and said he was looking around for a store, that he had the general order business for that district. Question. Did you ask why, and how ? Answer. I asked him why. I told him I was a republican and had done more for the .party than Mr. Barney had, and as much as Mr. Opdyke had, or any of the rest of them, and I thought I was entitled to it. Question. Did you inquire how he got it ? Answer. I understood he got it from Mr. Barney, and I tried to find out, and I wrote Mr. -Barney a letter. Question. He spoke first about commissions ? Answer. He spoke about commissions. He had this conversation with my partner. Question. What did he say about it ? Answer. He wanted 33^ per cent, of the whole business. Question. What do 'you mean by the whole business? Answer. The general order business, everything that was coming in ; we 44 GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. were to pay all the expenses, and our expenses were to come out of the other two-thirds. He was to have one-third of the grOBB amount. We did not give him that, lie said there was a .Air. Hill up then; would pay him that. Question. Is Mr. Hill in that district 1 Answer. Yes, sir. He is a democrat. We finally agreed to give him (Lam- bert) 30 per cent, of the profits. Question. How often do you pay him I Answer. ( hice a month. Question. Have you made him a monthly payment ? Answer. Yes, sir, half a dozen. Question. Have you heard whether other general order stores are paying commissions ? Answer. 1 heard that Mr. Merle was. Question. Do you know of any others] Answer. .1 think there are no others on the East river side On the North river side 1 thiiAV, though I do not swear, that they are in company with them and do not pay commissions. Question. Who has it ? Answer. 1 guess John 0. Mather is one. 1 do not remember their names : they are in the ring. Humphrey is one. I suspect that that contract and the general order business on the North river are in the ring. I do not know about it, but I think so. Question. Have you made any estimates of the profits? Answer. On the North river. I estimate that in good times there is, on an average, three steamships from Europe a week arriving on the North river; every one of those steamships go into general order ; that is, when I say every one, I mean generally ; if there are any that do not, they are an exception, and I judge that they are worth a thousand dollars apiece. Question. How do you mean they are worth that, gross or net? Answer. I think gross after the labor is expended. That would be $156,000 a year, and then there is any quantity of other ships arriving the whole time which would pay the expenses. I should say there was a profit of 8156,000 a year of the general order business on the North river, and then other business is always connected with that business. Any one of those stores that has the general order business on that wdiole river would make a hundred thousand dol- lars* a year. Question. When you were asked to pay this thirty per cent., did you write to Mr. Barney about it ? Answer. 1 did. Question. What did you state ? Answer. I told him that a man had come and said he had authority from him (Mr. Barney) to exact that thirty per cent. Question. Did Mr. Lambert say he had the authority from Mr. Barney to