ADI l nr PAYMENT OF GOVERNMENT BONDS. SPEECH HON. L. Q. C. LAMAR, OF MISSISSIPPI, IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES, JANUARY 24, 1878. WASHINGTON. 1 87 8 . SPEECH OF HON. L. Q. 0. LAMAR. Tlie Senate having natter consideration the resolution of Mr. Matthews, relative to the payment of bonds of the United States in silver— Mr. LAMAR said : Mr. President: The resolution of the Senator from Ohio, omitting its preamble, reads thus: That all the bonds of the United States issued or authorized to be issued under tbe said acts of Congress hereinbefore recited are payable, principal and interest, at the option of the Government of the United States, in silver dollars, of the coin¬ age of tiie United States, containing 412J grains each of standard silver; and that to restore to its coinage such silver coins as a legal tender in payment of said bonds, principal and interest, is not in violation of tiie public faith iior in derogation of the rights of the public creditor. To this resolution various amendments have been offered, among others one submitted by the Senator from Vermont, [Mr. Edmunds,] which reads in the following language: That all the bonds of the United States issued, or authorized to be issued, under the said acts of Congress hereinbefore recited are payable, principal and interest, in gold coin or its equivalent and that any other payment without the consent of the creditor would bo in violation of the public faith, and in derogation of his rights. I shall vote, Mr. President, against both of these resolutions, be¬ cause I believe that the issue thus made up and joined does not set forth fairly and fully the true issue involved in the great change which is proposed to he wrought in the monetary system of this coun¬ try by certain measures now awaiting tiie action of this body. This 1 think is manifest from the remarks with which the Senator from Ohio [Mr. Matthews] opened his argument in advocacy of his reso¬ lution. lie stated very distinctly that he would not consider tiie question as to what the interests of this Government and of the country required in connection with the exercise of the rights there¬ in asserted. With equal emphasis he waived off the question as to what a sound policy would dictate with reference to the legislation contemplated by his resolution. Refusing to consider either the ques¬ tion of policy or expediency he confined himself to the sole issue of the right, the legal and moral right, of the Government to so frame its legislation as to pay its public creditors in silver coin containing 412+ grains in the dollar. Now, sir, the very fact that these important and grave consider¬ ations are not deemed pertinent to the discussion of the resolution is, of itself, in my opinion, a sufficient and conclusive objection to its adoption. Suppose, when the measures which are lying behind this resolution come up for discussion, the fact should be developed that the law which is necessary to be enacted before this asserted right can he exercised and put iu force would he prejudicial to the interests of this Government. Supposetluit we should become satisfied i that such a measure conflicts with the well established principle of sound national finance; that it not only runs counter to the lasting prosperity of the country, but may inflict an incurable blow upon the public credit. What then would be the result of the adoption of such a resolution ? Not merely the bare assertion of an abstract right, I respectfully submit; something more than that; a solemn declaration to the 'world which, lying upon our records, would be pregnant with embarrassment and injurious misconstructions along the whole track of our future financial interests. I think a reference made by the Senator from Ohio to a point in our financial history very strikingly illustrates the force of this objection. He stated that the legislation of 1809 was made necessary by the doubts, the apprehension, and the mistrust which arose from a prevailing opinion expressed by statesmen and jurists that the principal of our public debt at that time was payable in our legal- tender paper money, the greenback currency of the country. To set¬ tle the question and to remove this distrust, to quiet these apprehen¬ sions, to clear away the obstruction to the funding of our bonds at a lower rate of interest, and to bind the Government by a solemn act of Congress that these bonds with all its other debts should be paid in coin, the act of 1869 was enacted. It was, as its style declares, “An act to strengthen the public credit;” the public credit which was shaken by the construction to which the Senator referred. Sir, in my opinion, the argument in favor of the right of the Gov¬ ernment to pay the principal of those bonds in greenback currency at that time was just as strong, and if possible stronger, than that now made in favor of the right of the Government to pay its present debt in silver coin containing 412£ grains in the dollar. By the law of the land this greenback was then, as it is now, “ law¬ ful "money ” and “ a legal tender in payment of all claims and de¬ mands against the United States, except for interest upon the public debt and duties on imports.” These provisions of the law were indorsed upon the note itself. The commercial world, the business public, had notice of the law under which the bonds were issued, and the business world negotiated and accepted these bonds, advancing for them this very currency, and in some instances at a prodigious discount. As a lawyer, I concur in the opinion that at that time these bonds were payable in greenbacks according to the literal con¬ struction of the contract as it was originally executed. It would not have been a matter of any importance, it would not have been a sub¬ ject either of interest or inquiry-whether they were payable in green¬ backs or coin, had the Government performed its promise of redeem¬ ing its greenback currency; for in that case the two would have been convertible. The holder of our national securities would have felt no more interest in the question as to whether they would be paid in gold or silver than the holder of an English security is now inter¬ ested in the question of the payment of an English bond in the notes of the Bank of England or in gold. But, inasmuch as the greenback was not redeemed and was there¬ fore depreciated in value by reason of the Government’s own act or rather its default, the question arose whether it could afford to stand upon the letter of its contract. The very agitation of the question caused alarm among the public creditors, and,in the face of the peril to which it subjected the credit and finances of the Government, the legislators of that day felt themselves bound to do what they deemed was equitable as well as politic, which was to pledge the Government to pay its debts, not in its own unredeemed and depreciated notes, but in coin. I am not now discussing the ulterior purposes which in this debate are charged to have been the real motive of this legislation. I am considering it in the light of the reasons which are relied on as its justification, i. e., that it was demanded by good faith and financial necessity. Now, sir, had some Senator, pending that discussion, like my friend from Ohio, enamored of the juridical aspect of the ques¬ tion alone, introduced a resolution with a preamble reciting the laws under which the public debt was created, and concluding with the declaration that the principal of “all the bonds, issued by the United States under the said acts of Congress, is payable, at the option of the Government, in the legal-tender notes of the United States, and that such payment is not in violation of the public faith nor in derogation of the rights of the public creditors,” and had the two Houses, after a declaration by the mover that he wished the legal right asserted, irrespective of what the interests of the people or the suggestions of financial wisdom might require, adopted such a resolu¬ tion, Avhat, sir, would have been the effect of suoli action upon the attempt to fund the public debt at a lower rate of interest ? Its effect then would have been precisely what, the effect of this resolu¬ tion will be if it is adopted; not merely unfavorable, but, I fear, sir, disastrous. The resolution of the Senator from Vermont [Mr. Edmiwds] in my opinion is amenable to the same objection. I do not believe it wise or politic or statesmanlike for the two Houses of Congress, in advance of any legislation, in advance of any settled policy, to pro¬ claim to the world their position upon a naked legal point, isolated from all the other important aspects of this sweeping and radical revolution in our monetary system, involving as it does an utter over¬ turn of all existing financial conditions. Howeverit may do in logic, it will not do in practical legislation to lay down and commit your¬ self to any premise until the other terms of the proposition are well defined and established. There is another objection. In all these resolutions offered as amendments and substitutes there is, under the circumstances of their presentation, an implied committal against the policy of the remone* tization of silver. Such a committal, even by iinplicatiou, is in my opinion at this time extremely inopportune and ill-advised. I believe that there is a method of remonetizing silver, indeed there is more than one method, so as to place that metal upon a solid and lasting foun¬ dation as a part of the currency of this country. I believe that it can be incorporated into the national currency so as to conduce to the prosperity of the country, satisfy the popular demand, and that too without any shock to the great interests involved, and even with strengthening effect to the publifc credit. By concert of action with all those nations who are favorable to the remonetization of silver I believe that a legal ratio between these two metals can he fixed so as to make what is called the double or the alternate standard feasi ble, at least sufficiently so to advance all the practical purposes of commerce and trade and business. It must be a fair and an honest ratio, one in which the legal relation between these metals corresponds to their actual relation, and there must be co-opera¬ tion in order to insure this result, for I think I shall be able to demon¬ strate that we can make buta slight impression in that direction stand¬ ing solitary and alone. Several Senators on this floor in advocating this measure have urged it in this which I consider its most important aspect; and as the Senator from Tennessee [Mr. Bailey] has set it forth with ad¬ mirable clearness, force, and brevity, much more so than I can state 6 it in my own language, I ask the Senate to indulge me while I read this view thus presented. He said: It seems to me. however, tliar these gentlemen overlook the fact that the object in remonetizing the silver dollar is not atone to furnish money for the payment of the public debt. Then what * The main purpose— Says the Senator from Tennessee— is to arrest the movements inaugurated in Europe and blindly followed in this country to destroy a great part of the wealth of mankind; it is to restore the silver dollar to the service of the world. An admirable object, and one which furnishes the strongest argu¬ ment in favor of a movement looking to silver remonetization. He says again: Mr. President, I believe that the Congress of the United States by prompt and decided action can arrest the movements looking to tho demonetization of silver, and thereby prevent the consummation of what I can but regard as a crime against humanity, the destruction of one-half the money that belongs to mankind. Sir, we can arrest this movement. Our influence among the nations is commen¬ surate with our great population, our vast commerce, and advanced civilization. That influence thrown now into the scale will arrest the attention of the world; it will check the movement of Germany already brought to a halt; it will sustain the States of the Latin union in their struggle, so long maintained without support. Our action will compel all people to reconsider this question, and count the cost of such gigantic destructions of wealth and the means of creating wealth. Now, sir, I for one am not an advocate of monometalisra either of gold or silver; and while I am in favor of going as far as sound policy and principle will permit toward the establishment of a dual system with a fairness of relation between these metals in the circu¬ lation of this country, I do not believe that the bill which was re¬ ported from the House and that which is reported as a substitute by your committee will accomplish that object. I believe the result of that bill will be not bimetalism in America or in Europe. Its pecu¬ liar and all-overshadowing feature is that one metal and one metal alone shall be the exclusive ruling element of American currency, and that metal shall be silver. And I say, with all respect to my friend from Tennessee, that if the financiers of Germany and England had combined together to devise a scheme which should drive the silver as money from the markets of Europe forever and establish silver monometalisra in this country, they could not have invented one more efficient than that which has been reported by the commit¬ tee, unless it is the one for which it is a substitute. I am aware of the boldness of this assertion and I beg Senators to believe that with my experience hero I should not venture upon it without ample authority to fortify the assertion. Nor do I intend to invoke to my aid any opponent of the restoration of silver to the currency of the nations or to the currency of this nation. I shall call no bondholder upon the stand. I shall cite no witnesses except those who have made themselves distinguished in their effort to re¬ store silver to the circulation of the world. Now, sir, the first that I shall ask attention to is a gentleman who has made himself conspicuous among a group of authors, all of whom are distinguished for their efforts in struggling not only against the demonetization of silver in Europe, but for its remonetization there and its remonetization here. I allude to Mr. Cernuschi, a writer of great power and brilliancy as well as a most acute thinker, who has lor many years consecrated his great abilities to the cause of bi¬ metalism both in Europe and in America. I have in my hand a work of his entitled Nomisma,or Legal Tender, containing, besides, bis testi- inony before the United States monetary commission. The author is an ardent advocate of the restoration of unlimited legal tender of silver in this country and of its free coinage. No one can read his writings without feeling his own mind strengthened and enriched by the contact. And in order that Senators may understand fully that no advocate of silver remonetization is any more advanced in his po¬ sition or demands for silver than he I will first read what he has to say on this subject: For the United States to resume specie payments it is necessary for them to rehabilitate silver; give the silver dollar the same value as the gold dollar, then accept silver at the custom-houses, aud be able to pay their Europeau bondholders in silver dollars. So earnest is this gentleman in his advocacy of this movement that when he heard of the appointment of the United States mone¬ tary commission, instead of corresponding with that body, be crossed the" Atlantic in order to give his evidence in person. I call attention to what ho says upon the subject referred to by the Senator from Tennossee. Mr. Boutwell asked him this question: If silver and gold should he used throughout the United States, the Latin union, Holland, and India, upon the same basis of relative values, what would be the effect ? Here is bis answer, and I Toad this part simply to show that this gentleman is an unqualified enthusiastic (even to an extreme) advo¬ cate of the theory of the double standard. And I wish to say here that, in my opinion, many of the economic principles which Cer- imschi, and Ernest Seyd, and Hay, and other European wu-iters on this subject Lave laid down in advocacy of the restoration of silver to its former place as money have not been snccessfully controverted, and in my judgment cannot be. Here is bis proposition ; I maintain that the effect would he to constitute a strong mass of money composed of gold and silver, but without possibility of variation in value of tbo one against the other. He develops this theory at some length, with which I will not de¬ tain the Senate. But now for the next question: What, in your opinion, would he the effect of an agreement to use both metals in the United States, in Europe, and in India ? Answer. The effect would be that every variation, every perturbation in the rela¬ tive value of gold aud silver would he forever impossible. Thequantity produced of the ono or the other of the metals has nothing to do with the relative value of the two metals. The only cause which produces variation in the relative value of gold and silver is that which is shown in die laws of the different countries. He exaggerates the influence of laws upon the value of money, and this I think the weak point in his theory. I read this simply to show the extent to which he goes in his advocacy of the restoration of sil¬ ver to the currency of all the nations, the United States as well as Europe. I ask especial attention to the next question aud his answer: Mr. Bogy. Supposing that in this country wo restore our relation at 16 to 1, while in Franco and Europe generally it would remain at 15$ to I. what would bo the effect upon this country, and what would be the effect upon Europe. I ask attention to the answer: If you coin at the ratio of 16, France cannot coin at the ratio of 15$. * * * T hen, if you coin at 16, you remain alone; audit were better to maintain the green¬ backs than to coin silver, if this metal is not also coined in Europe. I would put this Government abreast of the Latin union at this very moment. If Senators do not wish to wait for co-operation, why go further than France ? There is no doubt about the fact that, knowing that she cannot maintain her position as a bimetallic na¬ tion, France has stopped the coinage of silver altogether within her limits. 8 Again: Onestion. Suppose that France keeps her mints shut, as they a re now and remains as she is while the United States adopts the bimetallic system, with the relation the same as that which the Latin union lias now establishod-Germany is pro¬ hibited from sending her silver to France, and the t nitcd States boldly adopts the relation of 15* to l—I ask what harm could come to the United States in such a condition of things ? Mr. Cernnschi answers: This silver which would come from Germany here should have the effect of driving out all the gold. Again: Question. In the presence of the great demand caused by the wants of this country for the purposes of resumption, how loug do you suppose would silver remain at a discount as compared with gold ? Here is the pregnant answer to that, anti it is noteworthy not only on the ground of authority but on account of the intrinsic force of the suggestion: The silver can remain at a discount forever. But this is not the worst; the worst is that no fixitv would ever he possible between the value of gold and the value of silver. If you are bimetallic when Europe is gold monometallic, you are bimetallic only by name ; verilv, you would bea silver monometallic country, such as India, and the monetary position of the United States against Europe would be exactly the same as is the present position of India against England, a position which’engenders heavy losses to both countries. I have read this, Mr. President, not only as authority I say, but to give to the public the reasons stated with a force far beyond the hap¬ piest efforts of iny humble powers which control my vote on this im¬ portant question/ But, sir, I could cite other authority in Europe and England and in this country. I call attention now to the views of an author in this country with whom I am not personally acquainted, but whose book is full of rich and curious and rare information, and the argument is well made. It is the first elaborate work I think in this country in favor of using the remonetization of silver as the means of specie resumption, and it was written before this bill came before Congress. These are the works and teachings of thoughtful men npon the subject before it was flung into the arena of political strife, before passion began to rage around this question and parties began to shape themselves in reference to it. I am now about to read from the work of Mr. S. Dana Horton, in which the author advocates, just as Ernest Seyd and Cernuschi and Wolowski and Smith, all bimetal¬ lists, have done, the remonetization of silver by free coinage, unlim¬ ited legal tender, and the paymentof yourpnblic debtiu silver. But thequestion of judiciously timing your measure is the most important question involved in this controversy; and what does he say upon that ? Under these circumstances, what course is left open to the United States? It must be recognized that the movement toward demonetization of silver in Europe has in no proper sense spent its force. Motives, powerful to move nations as well as individuals, are still active in promoting it. It was urged in France, before the Franco-German war, that in demonetizing silver, France would be enabled to soil its silver to Germany ; and after the war, the similar expectation was held as to the sale of German silver to France. The pride of leading personages in Europe is enlisted not merely in the main¬ tenance, but also in the further extension of the gold standard, and it is from the demand for silver for the United States that the relief is expected which may facilitate the spread of their great error. It is "on the cards/’and is an event upon which leading men in Europe calculate, that the United States may be tru8teill ispassed and the pniicipal and. interest of the bonds are made payable iu silver, its funding operations will cease. I will now read you the figures : Amount of G per cent, bonds outstanding. $729, 000,000 Annual interest on same .. $43_ 740 OOO Amount of 5 per cent, bonds outstanding. 703,000,000 Annual interest 011 same.. 35 400,000 Total. 79,140,000 If these bonds were funded at 4 per cent, the annual interest would be. 57,480,000 Annual saving. 21,600,000 If the 4 per cent, bonds shall be paid at their maturity, say thirty years, the total savings would be, not compouudiug interest!.”. 649,800,000 If the bonds should not be funded, and principal and interest should be paid in silver, and the relative value of gold and silver should continue as at present, say a difference of 8 per cent., the saving to the Government on the interest payments would be about. 196,000,000 And 011 tbo principal would be about. 115,00o| 000 Total, not compounding interest. 311, 000,000 Now, upon the assumption that we can fund our debt in 4 per cent, bonds, (and I do not doubt that we will,) and upon the further assumption that the effect of the legislation contemplated by these resolutions will prevent this funding, the state¬ ment makes out a strong case. The sum lost the Government is very largo and exceeds 815,000,000 a year. Hut will the fulfillment of our obligation destroy our credit? It may be injuriously affected for a time, not because of the fulfillment of the obligations of the contract in their essence, and spirit, but because of the dis¬ appointment of ureasonablo expectations. But when time shall have cooled the passions excited by these disappointments and the deliberate judgment of mankind shall be pronounced, tho sentence will bo reversed, and our credit will be strength¬ ened by the firmness with which wo have resisted these appeals. There is some force in this suggestion, but it is not satisfactory. It may be that our credit will recover from the blow which would he given to it should our vindication be complete. But, sir, a character unassailed is immeasurably more precious to a nation than a character vindicated. , This is a most favorable opportunity for funding onr national debt at a low rate of interest which may not come again. The conjuncture of events which has caused so much capital to be locked up, makes it seek safe investments at interest so low as to be very slightly re¬ munerative. This may not last a long time. It must soon look for other investments. With anything like an improvement in busi¬ ness, investments will offer which will he more remunerative and tho opportunity which the present financial condition of the world and the disturbed political condition of other nations now afford may pass from us never to return. I distinctly state here that I believe that the purpose of all is to uphold the national credit. I am only stating what the dear-bought experience of nations has shown, that when the legislation of a nation is injurious to the interests of those who, trusting its honor, have in¬ vested loans of money to it, borrowed especially in its strngglo for national preservation, their complaints and assaults, however unjust, will injure its credit, and the injury is always irreparable. I have had an illustration of this in the last few days. A Senator, in a not unkind spirit, referred to the State of Missis¬ sippi as having repudiated her debt. Mr. President, I have no hope of ever removing that impression from the mind of the business public no matter bow strongly I may reiterate the oft repeated explanation. It has passed, it seems, beyond the power of correction. At the 6ame time I must be permitted to repel that statement. The trans¬ action which has attached to Mississippi the odium of repudiation is One in which that State disclaimed no debt which she had either in law or fact contracted. Nor did her people receive one dollar from it. I have not the time to go into this matter now,even if it were pertinent to this discussion. I will merely make one statement. By the constitution of Mississippi at that time no Legislature could pledge her credit to anybody or in behalf of anybody, individual or corporate, except by the law of two successive Legislatures and by a vote in the iuterim of the people upon the act thus pledging its credit. What I mean is, that it required that any statute which loaned the credit of the State should first have to pass one Legisla¬ ture, then be submitted to the people, and, after certain formalities complied with, passed by a second Legislature. Sir, that act which has attached to Mississippi so long the odium of repudiation never did pass two successive Legislatures; it was never submitted to the people of Mississippi. It was passed by oue Legislature, executed in hot haste, and the proceeds of it were put in a private institution, and never a dollar did the treasury or the people of that State re¬ ceive of the money thus raised in violation of her fundamental laws. The business public, the commercial world, had notice of this funda¬ mental law of the State of Mississippi, and with that notice was superadded the proclamation of her executive forbidding any nego¬ tiation in these bonds thus unconstitutionally issued and illegally executed. Mr. RANDOLPH. If I do not interrupt the Senator, I think the Senator from Mississippi and myself are not in exact agreement as to what I intended to say yesterday. He speaks now of the Union Bank bonds. I was speaking of the Planters’ Bank bonds. I do not care to interrupt the Senator, and will only say that the Planters’ Bank bonds were guaranteed by the constitution of the State of Mississippi passed in 1832; that from 1832 to 1852 the interest was paid upon those bonds, and that after that by the action of the people, which I regret as much as he, the interest ceased to be paid. I said that was prac¬ tically repudiation. Mr. LAMAR. Mr. President, the charge of repudiation made against Mississippi, and which has caused her to be held up to public reprehension, was not based upon her action with reference to the Planters’ Bank bonds, but wholly upon the transactions connected with the Union Bank bonds. The affair of the Planters’ Bank bonds which came afterward involves a different line of considerations from which the Senator must excuso me now, as I wish to give this sub¬ ject only a passing notico. Something was said in this discussion with reference to the bene¬ fits which are to result to the producing classes by this measure, and also as to the motives which prompt the opposition to it. It has been said that there are two classes in this country, one the producing class engaged in the active business of life, the laboring class; the other the capitalists of the country, those who derive their income from fixed estates, rents, interest upon bonds and stocks; and that upon this question a conflict between these two classes has arisen. Now, sir, so far as I have studied this subject I have seen nothing to justify such a classification. No man has greater respect and sympathy for the working classes than I. Sir, before the man who stands with bronzed brow and hardened hand and bent frame from his struggles with the earth for the subsistence of himself and his family I stand in modest deference and respect. I know something of that class at home. I have felt the heart-warm grasp of their hands and owe to their sup¬ port all that I am. There is another class of workers, however, to whom I am under a greater obligation than I am even to those who have worked the earth and the material agencies of nature. They are those men who work with the brain, who in sileuce and in their 21 •closets develop the great laws which rule society, who trace the phenomena of human government to their original principles and discover the laws which control governments and societies. They are men of genius, men from whose brains flow the great thoughts of which constitutions and laws and institutions are the mere external embodiment. It is to them that I am indebted for the views which control me in this vote, the men who are the true kings of earth, and who are really the authors of the considerations which have moved the enlightened governments of Europe in the management of their finances. As to the other class, called the bondholders, I know nothing per¬ sonally. Throughout the entire range of my acquaintance there are but three persons I know who are the owners of United States bonds. Will the Senate bear with me while I state who they are ? One is a distinguished lawyer, one of the most upright men I ever knew, one whose rectitude in all the relations of life, bo they to God or man, seems to be unexceptionable, a model to all who know him of intellect, integrity, and honor. He has never handled a dollar that he did not earn by the toil of hand and brain, or that lie did not collect and pay over to his client. After making provision for his family and benefactions to the poor and distressed which were gen¬ erous and munificent, he found himself at the end of each year with a small surplus of means. Being no speculator, never having in his life, I suppose, bought or sold for profit, and there being no property in Mississippi in which a man could at that time invest with security, for, alas! in my State property was poorer than labor and a more grievous burden than poverty—having no other means of investment , at hand, ho simjdy bought United States bonds as a deposit of his funds. Another was an old farmer who, by long years of industry and frugality and virtue, amassed sufficient'fortuue to purchase him a plantation in his declining years. The fortunes of war swept away everything from him except his real estate, which in 1865, be¬ fore the desolating furies of reconstruction came down there and de¬ voured everything, he sold, and bought just enough of bonds to bring him an income of $1,200 a year. Upon that income the old man with his aged wife lives in a small cottage, educating their boys in our col¬ lege near my little town. There is still another, a widow woman with three children. Her husband was a merchant. His affairs be¬ ing wound up just before his death and his small estate converted into money, and there being no other investment, Government bonds were bought and with the income of those bonds they find shelter and raiment and food and education for the three little girls. Sir, these are the only bloated bondholders that I know of in all this world. It is true that they get a very small income. By the way, let me say that there is not an investment in this country less remunerative than the bonds of this Government. There is scarcely an avocation that does not pay a larger percentage than United States bonds, when you consider the premium.upon them and the small rate of interest that they bring. The men who make their fortunes by large and extortionate jobs are not the men who invest in these secu¬ rities, it seems to me, although I confess I know' but little about it. It is true, as I was going to say, that the persons to whom I have just referred do draw semi-annually their small income in gold ; but, inasmuch as we are told that greenbacks are the best currency we ever had, surely those w r ho think so ought not to complain if they are paid in one that is not so good; but if they insist upon the in¬ justice of the discrimination of paying the bondholder in gold and the laborer, and soldiers, and sailors, in greenbacks, I trust they will cease to find fault with those of us who wish to pay the soldier, (lie sailor, and the laborer in the same coin that is paid to the bondholder. I repeat, I do not believe that the classification is a correct one. I (lo not believe that any such distinction exists in this country as that which places all the capitalists on one side and all the producing classes on the other. It is impossible that it should be so in a coun¬ try of institutions like ours. Sir, property is too shifting, fortunes are too mutable here to organize society upon any such basis. Men who are laborers in a few years by industry and energy become cap¬ italists, while those who were capitalists become in the mutations of fortune and the laws of trade among the class of laborers. There is not a citizen of this great Republic who can ever vote against the laboring classes of this country without striking a cruel blow at the interests of some of his own descendants, who are destined in the course of human events to swell the ranks of the laborers of this country; nor, on the other hand, can any man cast a vote against the capital class of this country that will not throw obstructions in the way of his own posterity. I cannot forget one thing, that we of the South at least owe much of the success of the opposition which has been made to the repressive policy of this Government to the conservative influence which capi¬ tal has exerted in the poiltics of this country. But for that, I do not know that Mississippi, and Alabama, and Arkansas, and Florida would not this day be under the iron rule of the force bills which were de¬ feated but a few years ago. Much has been said about the city of New York. New York City has been most generally democratic, and she has often stood by the South when popular majorities elsewhere were hostile. Sir, I again insist that it cannot be maintained that any such dis¬ tinction exists between the two classes in this country or that it ever did exist. Sir, where have the commercial class and the planting class of the South been in every struggle in which the interests of labor were concerned? In the revolutionary war to what class did John Hancock, of Massachusetts, and Charles Carroll, of Maryland, and George Washington, of Virginia, belong ? What did they say in the Declaration of Independence? We mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor. Did they risk fortune or life grudgingly becanse the success of their cause was to raise the great body of their laboring fellow-country¬ men to a freer and broader and higher life ? Who in 1812 defied the power of England in all her might, to protect the humblest citizen who by his labor contributed to our wealth and to our glory ? Sir, where will you find the champions of free trade, the opponents of extravagant taxation, the steady opponents of moneyed monopolies and the speculations of those who are not capitalists, but who by congressional plunder seek to make themselves capitalists? Who but the democratic representatives of every class in this country—the farmers bf the West, the merchants of the North, and the planters of the South ? Why, sir, were not the planters of the South at the time they were denounced as bloated slaveholders, as an effete aristocracy, always considered as the sure allies of the democracy of the North ? They stood always by the laboring classes of the North, and with Jefferson and Madison and Jackson and Polk as Presidents always kept the power of capital from interlacing itself with the powers of government; and whatever else may be laid to their charge they maintained their fidelity to the interests of the laboring classes of the North down to the very time of the extinction of their influence in this Government. I say tliis because I speak of what I have witnessed. I was here amid the closing scenes of that influence. One of them I can never forget. I remember hearing on this floor the then distinguished Sen- ator from New York, (Mr. Seward,) who has even become more con¬ spicuous in the more eventful times which have come since, declare that tho power had departed from the South; that the scepter was now taken from her hand, and that henceforth the great North, stronger in population and in the roll of sovereign States, would grasp the power of government and become responsible for its administra¬ tion. I am aware that I listened to him with impatience and perhaps with prejudice. For it seemed to me that he spoke in a spirit of ex¬ ultation that scarcely realized the magnitude of the task about to devolve upon him and his associates. It struck me that he spoke in a spirit far removed from that sadness and solemnity which I think always weighs upon the mind and the heart of the truly great man in the presence of a grave crisis of national life. I remember the answer that was made to him by a South Carolina Senator, Governor Hammond, who sat near where my friend from Indiana [Mr. Vooriikes] now sits. He was surrounded by a circle of southern statesmen whom no future generation will see surpassed in ability or purity, be the glory of our growth, as I trust it will be, unrivaled in the history of nations. There was James M. Mason, the square and massive simplicity of whose character and purity stands monumental in our annals. There was his accomplished colleague, Robert M. T. Hunter, whose clear and broad statesmanship found fitting expression in a scholarly eloquence that drew friends and opponents into the same circle of admiring affection. There was Slidell, with his shrewal and practical wisdom, and, near him, J. P. Benjamin, whose astuteness and skill and eloquence and learning have since rebuilt his fame and his fortune in that Olympic field of mental conflict, the great courts of Westminster. There was Robert Toombs, who never spoke without striking at the heartof big thoughts and kindling the ideas of all who listened to him. There was Clement C. Clay, the cultured student whose heart was the sanctuary of lofty feeling and stern principle. There was Albert G. Brown, from my own State, who never had an aspiration not in sympathy with the wants and feelings of his own people, who yet was never overawed by their prejudices or swerved from his convictions by their passions. There was another—Jefferson Davis—Mr.President, shall I not be permitted to mention his name in this free American Senate which has been so free to discuss and coudemn what it has adjudged to be his errors— one who has been the vicarious sufferer for his people, the solitude of whose punishment should lift him above the gibe and the jeer of popular passion—but whose words will stand forever upon the record of history; not in defiance, not in triumph, but as the sad and grand memoranda of the earnest spirit, the lofty motives of the mighty struggle, which, however mistaken in its ends and disastrous in its results, was inaugurated by those who believed it to be in the interest of representative liberty and constitutional government. Among these, and surrounded by others like them, the Senator from South Carolina, with that noble presenco which lives in the memory of all who ever saw him, addressed to his Northern associates on this floor the words which I have never seen iu print from that day to this, but which lean never forgot; and which, if the Senate will permit me, I will here repeat: Sir, what the Senator says is true. The power has passed from our hands into yours; but do not forget.it cannot be forgotten, it is written upon the brighest. page of history, that we tho slave-holders of the South took our country in her in¬ fancy, and after ruling her for sixty out of seventy years of her existence, we re¬ turn her to you without a spot upon her honor, matchless in her spleudor. incal¬ culable in her power, the pride and admiration of tho world. Time will show what yon will do with her, but no time can dim our glory or diminish your te- sponslbility. Sir, it is not for mo to say wliat lias been done witli it. The ar- 24 raigument of the Senator from Indiana [Mr. Vooriieks] is still be¬ fore the country. There is testimony, however, by a witness who may be regarded as more impartial—a judge sterner than he ; I will read what he says: My own public life lias been a very brief anil insignificant one, extending little beyond the duration of a single term of senatorial office; but in that brief period I have seen five judges of a high court of the United States driven from oflice by threats of impeachment for corruption or maladministration. I have heard the tannt, from friendliest lips, that when the United States presented herself in the east to take part with the civilized world in generous competition in the arts of life, the only product of her institutions in which she surpassed all others beyond question was her corruption. I have seen in the State in the Union foremost in power and wealth four judges of her courts impeached for corruption and the political administration of her chief city become a disgrace and a by-word through - out the world. I have seen the chairman of the Committee on Military Affairs iu the House, now a distinguished member of this court, riso in his place and demand the expulsion of four of his associates for making sale of their official privilege of selecting the youths to be educated at our great military school. When tho great¬ est railroad of the world, binding togther tho continent and uniting the two great seas which wash our shores, was finished, I have seen our national triumph and exaltation turned to bitterness and shame by the unanimous reports of threo com¬ mittees of Congress—two of the House and one here—that every step of that mighty enterprise had been taken iu fraud. I have heard in highest places the shameless doctrine avowed by men grown old in public oflice that the true way by which power should be gained in the Republic is to bribe the people with tho offices created for their service, and tho true end for which it should be used when gained is the promotion of selfish ambition and the gratification of personal revenge. I have heard that suspicion haunts the footseps of the trusted companions of the President. These things have passed into history. The Hallam or the Tacitus of the Sis- mundi or the Macaulay who writes the annals of our time will record them with his inexorable pen. And now, when a high Cabinet officer, the constitutional ad¬ viser of the Executive, flees from offico before charges of corruption, shall the his¬ torian add that tho Senate treated the demand of the people for its judgment of condemnation as a farco and laid down its high functions before the sophistries and jeers of the criminal lawyer ? Shall he speculate about the pretty political calculations as,to the effect on one party or tho other which induced his judges to connive at the escape of tho great public criminal 1 Or, on the other hand, shall he close the chapter by narrating how these things were detected, reformed, and punished by constitutional processes which the wisdom of our fathers devised for us, and tho virtue and purity of the people found their vindication in the justice of the Senate 1 Mr. President, we, the successors of these men, are here to-day. By a policy which is a noteworthy fact in the nineteenth century, we have come to mingle with the Representatives from the States of this Union in a common council for the good of this country. We come no longer as representatives of the capital interests of the South. We come not as the mere allies of the laboring-men of the North any longer, but as laborers ourselves, every one of us and every one of our constituents taught the stern lesson of necessity of earning our bread in the sweat of our face. But, sir, we come with our convictions unchanged as to the necessity of the laboring classes of this country being pro¬ tected in all their rights and in all their interests, for when that class sinks the entire fabric of our society must sink and crumble; but we come believing that they are honest, that they are patient, that they are self-reliant and true to their obligations, and that what it is their duty to do they will feel it is to their interest to do. We have differed among ourselves upon this great question; but of one thing the world may be assured, that no southern Senator representing southern people will give a vote upon either side of it which is not designed on the one hand to protect the laboring classes of this coun¬ try alike with its capital or on the other that will not preserve un¬ tarnished the sacred honor of America. c