DIAGRAMS EXHIBITING THE POSITIONS AND SYSTEMS OF NOTE ISSUE OF THE PRINCIPAL European State Banks, WITH SPECIAL REFERENCE TO THE NOTE ISSUE SYSTEM OF THE BANK OF ENGLAND. BY ERNEST SEYD, F.S.S. Reprint of Paper read before the Statistical .Society, with Discussion thereon, on the 18th December, 1877 . LONDON: 38, LOMBARD STREET, E. C. HARRISON AND SONS, PRINTERS IN ORDINARY TO HER MAJESTY, ST. MARTIN’S DANE, LONDON. SeM PREFACE. The diagrams and paper submitted to the Statistical Society on the 18th December, 1877, together with the discussion thereon, as published in the Journal of the Society of March, 1878,. are here reproduced. Besides furnishing the accounts of the central or note¬ issuing banks of the various States in the form of diagrams, which enable the inquirer to estimate at a glance the relative positions of the banks, both as regards their importance as bankers and as issuers of notes, the principal object is that of showing the anomaly under which the Bank of England note issue is being conducted. The effects of this anomaly upon the affairs of the Bank of England itself and upon the English money market, can all be traced to the same subtle source of error which underlies the practice under Sir Robert Peel’s Act. The Act itself is not at fault, it contains the very principle which has liitherto been over¬ looked, in distinct and clear terms, the application of which would render the operation of the Act perfect. It cannot, of course, be expected that so subtle a subject as that involved in this case should at once strike the intelligence of each reader, and although it is founded on rules of common sense, the author’s appeal on behalf of this principle is addressed chiefly to those who can bring to their aid the finer logical reasoning with which problems of this kind should be treated. To many of his friends abroad, to whom the author sends copies of this paper, the reasoning will no doubt appeal, as they can judge of the matter without bias. Many of them are aware of the influence of the Bank of England system on the money markets of the world, and of the conflicts which it engenders by its too frequent and extreme changes in the rates of discount. The modification of these changes would be a great boon to England, and would render its connection with foreign money markets more secure. The question is: Is monetary science suffi¬ ciently advanced for the recognition of the plain practical, as well as the simple logical case here brought under considera¬ tion DIAGRAMS EXHIBITING- THE POSITIONS OF THE BANK OF ENGLAND, AND VARIOUS OTHER NATIONAL BANKS. 6 Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank of England, the Bank of France, the German Reichsbank, the National Bank of Austria, the Netherlands Bank, the National Bank of Belgium, the National Bank of Italy, and the State Bank of Russia; with Remarks thereon and References to the Note Issue System of the Bank of England. By Ernest Seyd, Esq., F.S.S. [Read before the Statistical Society, 18th December, 1877.] The first set of diagrams which I have the honour of submitting to you, illustrates the accounts of the Bank of England, the Bank of France, the German Reichsbank, the National Bank of Austria, the Netherlands Bank, the National Bank of Belgium, the National Bank of Italy, and the State Bank of Russia for one year. The diagrams are constructed upon the following plan:— The faint upright lines, of about one-eighth of an inch apart, represent weeks, and the accounts are strung on each line. The horizontal fine lines represent one-fifth of a million sterling, each million being three-quarters of an inch apart, and every 5 millions being furnished with a number and a thicker line.* I have adopted the principle of separating the banking business of each institution from its issue of notes, and the strong black and red line of demarcation drawn across the accounts has, below it, the issue; above it, the banking; the former running in millions downwards, the other in millions upwards. Whether, as in the case of the Banks of England and Russia, the banking and issue departments are separated by law, or whether they form one account, the method adopted is alike suitable for either. The diagrams compelled me to make a slight change in the constellation of the accounts of the Bank of England. The weekly statement issued shows— * T ] 1C diagrams exhibited before the meeting were on a large scale; those attached to this Journal are so much reduced in size that it was found imprac¬ ticable to reproduce the faint weekly lines, and the horizontal lines for millions lollow the reduction. Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Panic, 8fc. 7 LIABILITIES. ASSETS. Issue Department. Notes issued. Government securities .... Other securities . Gold bullion . Silver „ .^ £ Capital . Rest . Public deposits . Other „ Seven daps’ bills Banking Department. £ Government securities .... Other securities . Notes in reserve . Gold and silver coin . £ As this official form does not show the amount of notes in circulation in a direct manner, and as the repetition of a sum as liability on one, and at the same time as asset on the other side, is obviously unsuitable to a diagram, and as other items were required, I have adopted the following order. Reading the diagram of the Bank of England from the bottom of the issue upwards under— Liabilities, The Issue Department, Total Issue, extends from the lower black and red line to above the line of demarcation, the upper red and black line corresponding with the reserve of notes on the asset side of the hanking department. The actual amount of notes in circulation is coloured in grey, the lower line- showing its variations. The Banking Department reads— From the demarcation line upwards. Capital ■) Best i co l° ure( * 9 r een. Seven days’ bills, coloured pink. Bankers’ balances (coloured dark red ) as portions of Other deposits, coloured pink. Public deposits, coloured pink. Exchequer balances, coloured dark red. The items of hankers’ balances and exchequer hills are not given in the weekly accounts of the bank, but are taken from parliamentary returns. The diagram reads under— 8 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Panic Assets, The Issue Department, Bullion, coloured yellow, Government and other securities, the latter being coloured blue up to the line of demarcation , thus showing at a glance to what extent the circulation is covered by bullion, whilst that portion which lies above is left in white, as representing also— In the Banking Department, The reserve of notes. Although this is left in white, it must be borne in mind, that in reality it is covered by interest-bearing securities in the issue, but for the purposes of the banking department it is a non-interest bearing asset. Then follow— Gold and silver coin, coloured yellow. Government securities coloured blue, and Other securities, also coloured blue. With the exception of Temporary advances, coloured blue with a violet margin, and Bills discounted, coloured violet, and I may at once say that it is this latter item which is chiefly worthy of attention. The same reading upwards, and the same colours, apply to all the foreign banks, with such slight variations as may be pointed out. The note circulation as grey, the capital and reserve as green, the deposits and other liabilities as red and pink on the one side, the reserves white (or with a red margin), the bullion as yellow, Government and other fixed or purchased securities as blue, advances, as with a violet margin, and bills discounted as violet, on the other side, will enable you at a glance to estimate the rela¬ tive positions of the various banks. The diagrams being hung so as to bring the separation line on a level, you can at once appre¬ ciate the relative extent of what belongs to the so-called banking from the issue. All the accounts are of the year 1876, excepting that of the Netherlands Bank, which runs from the first quarter 1876 to 1877, and the Back of England, the account of which represents the year 1875. I was compelled to choose that year of the Bank of England for the following reason. The bills discounted and the temporary advances are not given in the weekly balances, but in separate returns made to Parliament. The Royal Commission inquiry, after the crisis of 1857, obtained from the Bank of England extra returns, including bills and advances from the year 1844 to 1857. Subsequently the late Mr. J. B. Smith, member for Stockport, moved for and obtained a continuation of the same from 1857 to 1872, since when Mr. J. Backhouse, member of England and Various other National Banks. 9 for Darlington, lias regularly moved for their production every year, and those for 1873, 1874, and 1875 have been given. During last session he moved for those of 1876, and certain items have been published, excepting bills and advances. The Bank of England was understood to object to publish these items again, and they had not been asked for. The policy of the Bank of England in not giving information, is in strange contrast with all other great banks. Every one of these furnishes voluntarily a yearly report, in shape of a more or less extensive volume, in which the proceedings and accounts are set forth with great detail. These reports are most valuable and most instructive to the economical sense of the community. In extenuation of these proceedings, the Bank of England pleads that it is not, like the other foreign banks, a State bank, but a mere private institution. The plea is wrong in theory, and still more wrong in practice. With the exception of the Bank of Russia, which is avowedly a State bank, all the other banks are entirely independent of the State, and have their independent shareholders. It is true that foreign Governments have a voice in the appointment of the governors and directors of their banks, but this does not in any way interfere with the public and private busi¬ ness of these institutions. In truth, there is no bank which has more practical connection with the Government than the Bank of England itself. Not only does it manage the national debt, keep the Government accounts, and among public deposits are matters under the State’s guardian¬ ship, but its bank note issue has the privilege of legal tender expressly enforced upon the public by the State. The Bank of France only acquired this right in 1871, the German Reichsbank and other banks entirely lack this most important faculty, which alone is more than sufficient to give to the Bank of England the character of a State bank above all others, if a discussion on the exact meaning of that term should arise. The publication of the accounts of the Bank of England would be a great boon to the community and an advantage to share¬ holders. That it ought to be a matter of pride to both the bank and the public, may be admitted. The errors and misconception to which the present secrecy leads, can be shown in one notable example. Those who look at the bank’s weekly accounts find in the assets of the issue—• £ Government debt . 11,01000 Other securities . 3,984,900 the latter consisting also of Government securities. 10 Seyd — Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Banh Then they find in the banking department— £ £ Government securities, say . 14,000,000 to 15,000,000 and, again, Other securities, say . 22,000,000 besides notes and coin in reserve. The bank thus holding from 29 to 30 millions of Government securities, the natural inference is, that as it is the leading discount institution in the world, the 22 millions Other securities at least must be bills discounted. This is an error. Besides the property in premises and other matters of this kind, the greater portion of the Other securities c 6 nsists of investments made by the bank in interest-bearing securities, such as railway debentures, colonial securities and others. What the precise nature of these securities is, has never been published, they might include mortgages or other unsaleable matters, but it is surmised that they are mostly bonds as mentioned, purchased by the bank. But for the Parliamentary returns the public would never have known that the other securities are not bills. At various times, the bills discounted have amounted to between 2 or 3 millions, and the advances to between half and 1 million. At other times they are higher, and in case of bullion withdrawals reach a sum equivalent to these, but the total average of bills thus held by the bank since 1844, scarcely reaches 6 millions. In the year 1875, the Other securities amounted at one time to 20 millions, of which only 2 millions were bills, and 2 millions temporary, advances. In the diagrams before you, the bills discounted by the Bank of England accordingly form but a loose fringe at the top, whereas in all the other banks they form the most important item. Referring now to the diagrams, I ask permission to postpone the comparison between the Banks of England and France until I come to the second more extensive set of diagrams, in which the accounts for several years are given. Meantime I proceed with the Beichsbanh of Germany. The year represented is the first of its existence under the new law, and the deposit business has made a very fair beginning. The upper red portion are deposits at interest; the bulk, in pink, are balances of current accounts without interest. Almost all the States in Germany, Bavaria, Wiirtemberg, Saxony, &c., have their chief banks, and there are other joint stock banks and bankers which come into competition with the Reichsbank. In course of time the latter will, no doubt, much increase its business. As you see, the note issue and bullion (all in gold) are already larger than those of the Bank of England. On the asset side of the banking business you will perceive that the greater portion of the assets consists of 11 of England and Various other National Banks. bills discounted. A small part only are advances. The Reichsbank holds no, or only very few, Government securities or other stocks whatever, neither in its banking nor in its issue business. Now, this is not due to the fact that there are not sufficient Government and Other securities in the German market; although our English national debt is larger, yet there are plenty of imperial and other State debts in Germany besides securities similar to those held by the Bank of England. But the management of the Reichsbank (as direct proof of its total independence of Government influence) says to itself: — “ We know that the aggregate securities floating in, or to be had “ in the market, consist of Government stocks, railway debentures, “ securities to advance upon and mercantile bills, in which all “ banks must share. We will take our share in bills. If anybody “ wants notes from us, he must either bring gold or good short “ mercantile bills.” Nothing can be more plain and logical. It does not involve a mere matter of policy, but recognises a distinct right. The note circulation is wanted less for the purposes of credit (for the large percentage of cover by bullion precludes, as a rule, this suggestion), but because it is a necessity on the ground of convenience, as well as for the equalisation of the currency; and in all countries where specie payments prevail, the bank-note circulation forms a regular element and a steady percentage of the total currency. And by insisting upon its right of choosing bills as security, the Reichsbank compels the other banks to take in more Government and other securities by way of reserve. The bills thus acquired are the “finest” endorsed, or short bills, and by the organisation of its clearing system all over the country, bring the Reichsbank into continuous connection with the currency generally. Moreover, the Reichsbank obtains these bills at its own rates of interest, although the market rates are frequently § or i per cent, below the bank rate, as they are here. On the whole, however, the market remains in accord, the bank being, by its action, the tranquillising factor. During 1876 its rates were respectively 5 , 4 , 3 ^, and 4 per cent, for bills. For advances on public securities the Reichsbank charges 1 per cent, more, so as to discourage the habit of borrowing money upon a contract already made. For the issue of notes of the Reichsbank, the old outward limit of a minimum of 33 ^ per cent, of bullion has been maintained, but the bank has to pay a rate of interest or penalty of 5 per cent, per annum on such fiduciary issue above the sum of £ 12 % millions which it has free. This penalty betrays the rough economical pro¬ ceeding of the Government, but the principle, carried out in a more scientific method, is worthy of attention. For all practical 12 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank purposes, however, the free limit of £i 2 | million (since increased bj issues resigned bj other banks, to about £132 million), contains precisely the same principle as Sir Robert Peel’s Act with the £15 millions of. the Bank of England, viz., the limitation by amount. But there is this very important difference, the Bank of England at once makes use of its issue right, as both minimum and maximum at all times, and holds what is called a reserve of notes, whilst the Reichsbank only issues as much of the £ 12 ^ millions as actually wanted, keeping the rest as issue in reserve , and treating the limit as maximum only. Hence whilst the note reserve in the Bank of England is a non-interest-bearing asset in the banking department, as the diagrams show, the issue reserve of the Reichs¬ bank stands apart from the accounts, as indicated by the margin at the end of the circulation line, called Free Reserve. The Reichsbank issues weekly statements, and also an ample and elaborate yearly report on its doings, expenses and profit. It also issues a book containing some thousands of names of its customers who keep current accounts at the head office and the branches, and thus enables firms to “clear” accounts with each other all over the country without cost. The question whether this freedom of publi¬ cation is an advance in the science of banking might be decided by ourselves, who like to be at the head of advancement generally. The free fiduciary issue of other banks in Germany amounts to £ 5 ! millions, of not less than 5 1 . per piece; the Government issues £6 million in smaller notes. The Reichsbank must take these notes in payments. The National Bank of Austria has the next largest capital to the Bank of England, but if you look at the accounts you will find that the deposits are but very small. Their place is taken by mortgage letters (coloured dull red), which the public take almost as certifi¬ cates of deposits bearing interest, against which the bank has granted loans on mortgage of land, &c. (coloured brown). In other countries, mortgages by banks are deemed unsuitable, for more than one reason, but in Austria, where borrowing on every¬ thing is the rule, the system is still maintained. The Bank of Austria probably holds the comparatively safest of this class of precarious security. The question of abolishing these mortgage items has been mooted more than once. The bills discounted, and advances, form important parts of the assets, and considering the state of the valuation, the Government securities are moderate, the circulation of notes being covered to more than 50 per cent, by bullion (gold and silver in about equal proportions), and about £1 to £2 million of bills payable in metal (viz., bills on England). The Austrian par of exchange is florins xo '2 per 1 at which rate the accounts are converted, although the of England and Various other National Banks. 13 actual exchange has run between florins 12 to i 2 f per il. But as the bank states its bullion at par, which adds about 20 per cent, more to the metallic cover on the present value of tbe bank notes, it seemed fair and suitable to convert the whole accounts at the par of exchange. This makes them larger by 20 per cent, than they are in actual sterling exchange, but as the accounts could otherwise not be balanced, and as the bank has so fair a portion of bullion, it seems entitled to the parity. Indeed, the depreciation of the Austrian exchange is not due to the issue and the management of the National Bank of Austria, but to the uncovered and uncertain note issue which the State itself makes separately. The fiduciary limit of the bank until now is 200 millions of florins, and the margin at the bottom of the diagram represents its reserve. The rates of interest in 1876 were 5 and 4 ^ per cent. The impending change in the bank in relation to Hungary is about to take place. The Netherlands Bank , as the diagrams show, is a moderate and compact institution, holding no Government and other securities, but using its capital and deposits in bills and in advances. The careful Dutchman does not deposit in banks, but prefers investing his capital in international stocks of all kinds. The issue of the Netherlands Bank is covered with bullion to about 90 per cent., mostly gold, and partly silver. The law provides that the king shall determine the limitation of the issue, and in accordance therewith, it has been determined that for the liabilities in de¬ posits, &c., and note issue combined (a junction between the two not found elsewhere), there shall be a minimum cover of 40 per cent, of bullion. The margin of reserve at the bottom of the diagram shows the issue which this solid institution had to spare during 1876. The rates of discount in 1876 were 3 ! and 3 per cent. No other bank in Holland has the right of issue. The National Bank of Belgium resembles the Bank of Holland in extent, and holds mostly bills discounted, and very few Govern¬ ment and other securities. But as regards bullion there is a great difference, the bank holding a smaller proportion. The law deter¬ mines that the issue of notes shall be covered by a minimum of 33 j per cent, of bullion, but tbe finance minister has power to allow a further extension. The bank goes very close to this first liberal limit, and exceeded it at the end of the last, as well as during the present year. M. Malou, the present finance minister, informs me that he has no hesitation to allow such further issue, because among the bills discounted there is a considerable amount of bills on foreign countries, which in case of need have the same effect as bullion. This is true, but at the same time the actual amount of such bills ought to be continually stated, and on the whole, according to our notions and practices, the amount of bullion seems too small 14 Seyd — Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank in any casG. Tlie National Bank alone lias tlie right to issue notes. The rates of interest were in 1876, 4 ^, 4 , 3> 2 i 3i 2 2 P er cerL f- The people in Belgium have great facilities of investing small sums in all sorts of small bonds of sound local and other undertakings. The National Bank of Italy has a fairly large capital, of which a small portion is still unpaid. The deposits are small, but it must he borne in mind that it is a comparatively young institution, and that the former old banks of the divided States, such as the National Bank of Tuscany, the Bank of Naples, the Roman Bank, the Bank of Sicily (which also have note issues), and others, are powerful institutions in their way. The necessities of the State have caused a large over issue of paper, and the bullion held is small, but as this bullion is stated at par, I have, in spite of the depreciation of exchange, converted the accounts at the par value, as in Austria. The law of issue of bank notes in Italy has lately been altered to the following effect: The State, together with the National Bank and the six other issuing banks, withdraw their special notes, and “ consort together for a total issue of 60 million “ pounds of notes. These notes are Biglietti consorziali.” The National Bank may make a total issue of these to £40 millions sterling, the others divide the balance. It will be seen that the National Bank has so far, in 1876, issued from £13 millions sterling to 16 millions, having the balance to spare by way of what may be called reserve of issue. The process of changing these notes is now going on; meanwhile a portion of the State notes or Biglietti con- sorziali appears as assets in the issue department against the special notes of the bank to be withdrawn. The rates of discount in 1876 were 5 and 4 per cent. The State Bank of Russia looks large, like everything in Russia, swollen up by several unaccustomed items, and I have been sorely puzzled how to treat its accounts. These are published from time to time, sometimes with the accounts of the head office alone, then with that of the branches added, and sometimes the latter are debited by the former in a curious way. But what is most extra¬ ordinary, is the fact that the Russian Bank, instead of taking its bullion at the metallic par (like the other over-issuing banks of Austria and Italy), seems to take it at its paper value, and so increases the amount apparently. Having no means of verifying these rates, I have been obliged to convert the whole of the accounts at the London rates of exchange on Russia, so that the extent appearing represents the presumed metallic value of the accounts. The contraction in the accounts towards the end of the year is therefore due to the fall of the exchange. I must state, however, that this is not reliable, and altogether claim exemption as to absolute accuracy of these accounts, for the statements are so 15 of Fvgland and Various other National Bantes. complicated, and bear so much the appearance of what we call “ cooking,” that I had no other means of arriving at a fair repre¬ sentation of ■ the case than by doing a little cooking myself as regards certain odds and ends. The capital of the bank is the smallest of all great banks. It bears a superstructure of certain other liabilities (coloured pink) ; bills to order (dark red). At the top the State balances (dark red) show a rapid decline towards the autumn of the year; then follows downwards a strip of pink, as deposits without interest; another dark red, as deposits with interest. Below these, and above bills to order, follow about £30 millions (coloured dull red) marked “ Accounts Bearing Interest,” and “ Special Accounts.” What these are I do not know, and have been unable to ascertain. One, who ought to know Russian finances well, told me he believed they were fancy work, but I can hardly imagine what motive there could be for assuming such a liability for nothing. They may be loans by other banks or other institutions and persons; it is a pity that they are not more openly described. Besides the bills and advances shown in the diagram as assets, the whole balance consists of advances to the State, and State securities for the issue with 4 per cent. State notes, the bullion at the end (even if it has an actual existence) being but about 20 per cent, on the circulation. The rates of discount in 1876 were 6 |, 6 , 7 ^, 9 , 7 , and 8 per cent. The Bank of Russia divides its accounts into issue and banking departments, like the Bank of England, but states no express reserve, as the issue is at the will of the Government. There is a third department, concerning State and liquidation accounts, con¬ ducted for account of the State, independently of the former, from which a balance due to the bank is debited to the State in the banking department. This latter set of accounts is not included in the diagram, but the balance due appears as advances to the State. I now come to the accounts of the Bank of England and France as specially represented by the second set of diagrams, giving these accounts from the year 1868 to 1876. In these, as shown, I give the assets chiefly, the liabilities of capital and deposits being indicated only by the red and black lines. The line of liability of circulation is the same as the lower line of bullion. In glancing at these diagrams, it is needless for me to say much; you can all see what power the Bank of France has displayed. In 1868 to 1870 the principal assets were bills discounted. The bank makes advances on securities, but generally at a higher rate. Of Government securities, the bank held a sum of £ 6 ^ millions, of which 4 millions were an advance to the State treasury, for which, however, no actual need existed then for either party. The 16 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank bullion held before tbe war amounted to £52 to 55 millions against the Bank of England’s stock of £17 to 23 millions. Shortly after tbe outbreak of war in 1870, and on tbe first reverses, there was a withdrawal of bullion to the extent of £3 5 millions within a few days, the bank paying out without any hesitation. Then came the interval of the sieges when no accounts were published, until, when in 1871 peace was restored, the accounts opened with an immense circulation on a bullion basis of £27 millions. The large amount of first class bills then taken in, shows what amounts other bankers must have held. After the war and sieges the loss on these bills amounted to about quarter per cent., a proof of 'their quality. Specie payments had been suspended, but the term does not apply in its full meaning; all that was done was that legal tender rights were given to the notes, which hitherto they had not had, but which Bank of England notes always enjoyed, the practical difference being that the issue department of our bank is compelled to pay notes in gold, or suspend payment, and by so doing annul the legal rights, whilst the issue of the Bank of France was not compelled to do so. In reality, the suspension of specie payment was nominal, and when for a short time in 1873 the exchange in London was against France, plenty of gold came over, the premium lasting only a short time. For all the rest of the time there has been no opportunity of testing the suspension of specie payments, for the simple and most effective reason that the exchange has always been in favour of France, that gold streamed in and was not called upon for export, such export being the only real cause of suspensions of cash payments. Mark, now, how the Bank of France, at first making large advances to the State for payment to Germany, and to satisfy the demands for replenishing the amount of currency by notes, gradually and steadily diminishes the Government securities and acqu ires bullion; until, at the present time, it has reduced the former to a comparatively moderate sum, and has covered its enlarged issue with 90 per cent, of bullion (one-fourth of which, by-the-way, is silver). During all this time, notice how it has assisted bankers and the community at large with discount of bills ; and if you desire evidence of the contract and deposit power of the French, note how in 1872, when the large loan was brought out, the deposits suddenly increased by £34 millions, apart from the amounts paid in by the public to other bankers. I say to you emphatically, that this astounding result ought to teach us a grand lesson. ISTo plea concerning our peculiarities, no preconception as to the validity of certain economical doctrines twisted out of shape by practice, hold good against the facts here shown to you. That in the event of war, this country could do a 17 of England and Various other National Banks. great deal, as it has done before (but it would be a painful struggle between the Bank aud the commonwealth), I will allow. In France, the law simply fixed a limit of £128 millions to the total issue, and left the bank to carry out the great tacit principles of firstly : not issuing more, either to the public or to itself (as the Bank of England does from the issue to the banking department) than absolutely required for circulation, keeping the balance of issue in reserve (as shown in the diagrams) ; and secondly: of reacquiring as much bullion as possible by poising the rates of discount, so as to affect prices in favour of export, and in discouraging imports. The import of bullion was the direct consequence of this action. And this result has been achieved by rates of interest of 5 , 6 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 6 , 5 , from 1871 to 1873, whilst in 1874 the rate fell to 4^ and 4 per cent., last year to 3 per cent., and this year, for the first time in the history of the bank, to 2 per cent., for no other reason than that the bank has really acquired too much bullion. I think that if you take into account our greater wealth and productive power, our greater solidity in social matters, you may allow me to start the broad suggestion, that the Bank of England ought to be a more powerful and effective institution than the Bank of France. I chafe at the fact that it is not so, and if you now look at the diagrams of the Bank of England for the same period you will see the case. The Bank of England since 1844 has made scarcely any progress. In 1844, the total exports and imports of this country amounted to 125 millions; in 1873 they were 682 millions, or fivefold as much. In almost every branch of trade here and abroad, this fivefold pros¬ perity has been responded to, excepting only the Bank of England, whose business is but little larger now than it was in 1847. This singular fact cannot be explained by such phrases as, the bank has become the bankers’ bank, and kindred suggestions. The power of its 18 millions capital and rest is the same as that of other banking capital; the principles of the issue were in 1844 the same as now. It is said the competition of other banks and bankers has brought about the result, and “ the Bank of England is more conservative.” Conservatism must always be honoured ; but here we find that our other banks and bankers have gone on increasing in accord with general prosperity. We may ask then whether this concurrence between them and the public is not rather the true conservative principle. When, however, as the case of the Bank of England shows, this conservatism is pleaded as an excuse for non-develop¬ ment, another term must be substituted for it. You may agree with me that when in any commonwealth such an important factor remains behindhand in the measure the Bank of England has done, 18 Seyd — Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Banlc it must drag general progress, in spite of all protestations as to its other merits. The want of progress does not concern the bank’s shareholders only, bnt is a matter of the highest public impor¬ tance. Sir Robert Peel, as his speeches show, anticipated a different state of things, a considerable increase in the bank’s affairs, as the commerce of the country increased. I am of opinion that this want of development in the affairs of the Bank of England cannot be explained away by mere assertions, that it has a distinctly traceable cause. I must now tell you that in submitting to you these diagrams for the purpose of giving information on the relative position of the great foreign banks, it is my special object to utilise them also, in order to demonstrate to you the cause which places the Bank of England into the abnormal position which it seems to occupy. This cause arises in the issue department of the bank. We all know that Sir Robert Peel, by limiting the issue of notes on securities, intended to modify the fluctuations in bullion held by the bank, which led to the monetary disturbances before 1844. Strange to say, since then these fluctuations have been much more violent. We all know that ever since 1844 the Bank Act has been under discussion, that Royal Commissions have set upon it, that the literature on the question is most extensive, and that no result has been obtained. The conflicts which manifest themselves in our money-market and the frequent and violent changes in the rate of discount (those of the last nine years being more than one hundred), are subject to all sorts of explanations, more or less secondary in their nature. The impression prevails that nothing can be done with the Bank Act, that the Royal Commission inquiries and general discussion have exhausted the subject. You may therefore be prejudiced against me if I open the matter again, but permit me to state this: The point I am going to bring before you has never been mentioned before in any of the Royal Commission inquiries, has never been alluded to in the vast discussions and correspondence on the subject, and yet it forms an integral part of the Act itself. The Bank Act provides that the Bank of England shall issue bank notes on gold, and on £15 millions of Government securities. The principle of such limitation by a definite amount of so much fiduciary issue is acceptable, and we may take it as agreed upon. But how should this fiduciary issue be made ? Should the £ 15 millions be issued at once, as the bank does now ? I say no ! and allege that “ the present permanent issue of these notes is the “ sole cause of all the anomalies from which the bank and our “ mone y market are suffering. The issue of these notes should 19 of England and Various other National Banks. “ only be made pro rata, as the occasion demands, and should be “ lessened again when the necessity for its use has ceased.” My first appeal in confirmation of this yiew must be addressed to the educated logician. In any combination between two factors, where the object is that of bringing about equal, or somewhat equal proportions, it is evidently wrong to use one of the factors at all times at its maximum or so to express it: as minimum and maximum continually; the very object in view must thereby be defeated, and the fluctuations in the other factor intensified. The logician requires no more in order to see my case. I explain this more familiarly by stating that Sir Robert Peel established the limit of 15 millions of such issue, in order to secure the greater convertibility of the note, and a larger proportion of gold. In this the Act succeeded, although at certain times the so called suspensions, on account of insufficient bullion, took place. But this was not his only object. What troubled him more were the violent contractions in the bullion, and the high rates of interest, and he dwelled specially on his anticipation that the fiduciary limit would modify them. In 1847 he confessed that this was his chief object. Why has it failed ? Common sense should tells us that if in this combined bullion and fiduciary issue it is the bullion which is subject to conkradion and expansion, it is surely wrong to keep the issue of notes on Government securities at the fixed figure. On the contrary, it is this fiduciary issue which ought to contract and expand (within the limi ts assigned), so as to give bullion the better chance to remain. Did Sir Robert Peel himself say that this issue of 15 millions of notes on Government securities should remain permanent, and are the directors of the bank bound thereby ? One of the most remarkable cases of neglect or misunderstanding of written law can here be shown to you. Clause 2 of the Act, that which determines the principle and practice of the issue, says :— “ And be it enacted, that upon the 31 st of August, 1844 , there shall be transferred, appropriated, and set apart to the issue department, securities to the value of 14 millions, whereof the debt due by the public to the bank shall be deemed a part; and there shall also be transferred to the issue department so much of the gold com and gold and silver bullion then held by the Bank of England as shall not be required by the banking department; and thereupon there shall be delivered out of the issue department into the banking department such an amount of Bank of England notes, as, together with the Bank of England notes then in circulation, shall be equal to the aggregate amount of the securities, coin, and bullion, so transferred to the said issue department of the Bank of England; and the whole amount of Bank of England notes then in circulation, including those delivered to the banking department as aforesaid, shall be deemed to be issued on the credit of such securities, and coin and bullion so appropriated to the issue department; and from thenceforth it shall not be lawful to increase the amount of securities for the time being in the issue department, save as hereinafter is mentioned; but it shall be lawful for the said 20 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the BanJc governor and company to diminish the amount of such securities, and again to increase the same to any sum not exceeding on the whole the sum of 14 millions, and so from time to time as they shall see occasion, &c. Here then is a distinct and clear authority for the Bank of England to reduce any plethora of money, by a diminution of the “ securities,” and the diminution, I contend, means the re-transfer of these securities from the issue to the banking department, by such portions as the bank may choose, or even by the whole amount, if expedient, from time to time. Why has it not been acted upon ? That the provision in question has not hitherto attracted the attention of the public, I have already mentioned. There are few people who have ever read this Act. And I may not be far wrong when I say that the listeners to or readers of this treatise, among whom may be several who have written and thought of the Bank Act, have never done so. At the Bank of England itself, it appears that the proviso has been considered, and that the conclu¬ sion as to its meaning was: that Sir Robert Peel contemplated this diminution to come into operation in the event of a total reduc¬ tion of the circulation to the figure of 15 millions or thereabouts. In Sir Robert Peel’s speeches there is no evidence whatever to this effect, but plenty to the contrary; he stated distinctly, when chal¬ lenged on the point of future circulation, that he anticipated a large increase in it. A decrease of circulation would also be a gradual effect, to which the phraseology is quite unsuited, for this, in the words “diminish,” “ again to increase,” from “time to time,” is distinctly applicable not only to the frequent recurrence of the event, but also to its continual observance. The question may here be asked: Why did not Sir Robert Peel himself insist more explicitly on this principle ? Sir Robert Peel had been told that an average circulation above bullion before 1844 was about 11 millions, and I can quite believe that he imagined this ratio would continue, as generally he anticipated more regularity. He therefore attached less importance to the proviso, but I am satisfied that if he were now alive, he would, in five minutes’ time, recognise the importance of the point, already provided for by what may be called at all events his instinctive wisdom. In justice to the directors of the Bank of England, it is, how¬ ever, requisite here to state that Clause 8 of the Act is, if not in conflict with Clause 2 , at least incomplete. Clause 8 has no direct connection with the principle of the issue, it provides merely for the share of profit which the State is to derive from the privilege of issuing the 14 millions of notes on securities. It is worded “ Clause 8.—And be it enacted, that from and after the said 31 st day of August, 1844 , the payment or reduction of the annual sum of izo.oooZ., made by of England and Various other National Banks. 21 the said governor and company under the provisions of the said Act passed in the fourth year of the reign of his late Majesty King William IV, out of the sums payable to them for the charges of management of the public unredeemed debt, shall cease, and in lieu thereof, the said governor and company, in consideration ot the privileges of exclusive banking, and the exemption from stamp duties given to them by this Act, shall, during the continuance of such privileges and such exemption respectively, but no longer, deduct and allow to the public from the sums now payable by law to the said governor and company, for the charges of management of the public unredeemed debt, the annual sum of a hundred and eighty thousand pounds, anything in any Act or Acts of Parliament or in any agreement to the contrary notwithstanding: Provided always, that such deduction shall in no respect prejudice or affect the rights of the said governor and company to he paid for the management of the public debt at the rate and accord¬ ing to the terms provided in an Act passed in the forty-eighth year of the reign of his late Majesty King Geoi’ge III, intituled ‘ An Act to authorise the advancing for the Public Service, upon certain conditions, a proportion of the Balance remain¬ ing in the Bank of England for the payment of Unclaimed Dividends, Annuities, and Lottery Prizes, and for regulating the Allowances to be made for the Manage¬ ment of the National Debt. 5 55 Tlie essence of tins clause is that for the privilege of the issue of 14 millions, the bank shall give to the State a fixed sum of 180 , 000 /. per annum. (As the sum has since been increased to 15 millions, the fixed sum is now 195 , 000 /. per annum.) It must be evident to all, that this compromise, although perhaps agreeable to the Chancellor of the Exchequer as a regular item, is wrong in prin¬ ciple, for either the State or the bank must lose by it, and that the pro rata rule ought to prevail, especially in matters where nice adjustment is required. But as Sir Robert Peel, as before mentioned, imagined that the average sum of fiduciary issue in circulation would range at 10 to 11 millions, he did not deem it worth while to alter the amount. I am convinced that under the experience since gained, which shows that the fiduciary issue has ranged from minus 2 (1857) to plus 21 millions (1876), within a total range of 23 millions, he would have recognised the necessity of varying the profit of the State in accordance therewith. But as the Clause 8 now stands it is incomplete. The 180 , 000 /. apply to the supposed full issue of 14 millions in Clause 2 . Clause 2 , however, contains also the proviso for a diminution of the issue on securities. Now whether this proviso bears the construction which the directors of the bank put upon it, as before mentioned, or that for which I contend, it is perfectly obvious that Clause 8 ought also to provide for a reduction of the State’s profit with such possible reduction of the issue on securities. The omission is probably due to the draftsman of the Bill, and is more of the nature of a clerical error, which might be easily rectified. The matter might be so arranged that on the average the exchequer would receive the same sum, a suggestion to that effect lies near at hand. And I say, that this rectification in Clause 8 is all the alteration 22 Seyd — Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank required in the Act of 1844, that everything else can stand as it is. Upon this the bank wonld, as a matter of interest no less than as a direction, act in accordance with the wording of Clause 2. I bring the case at once so far in its theoretical and practical legal aspect, and doubt not that many require no more in order to lead them to the recognition of the truth. But there are others who will sa j, firstly, “ If you thus reduce the issue on Government “ securities, where is our reserve ?” In order to show what ought to be done, let me here give you a pro forma account of the Bank of England, say at a time when the bullion is of the same amount as the notes in the hands of the public, and its full 15 millions of notes in reserve. Liabilities. Notes issued . 1 . Issue Department. £ Assets. Government securities .... 43,000,000 Other securities . Gold and silver bullion .... 43,000,000 j £ 11,015,100 3,984,900 28,000,000 43,000,000 Banking Department. £ Capital. 14,533,000 Rest. 3,467,000 Public deposits . 5,500,000 Other ,, 21,000,000 Seven days’ bills. 500,000 45,000,000 £ Government securities .... 15,500,000 Other securities . 14,000,000 Notes . 15,000,000 Gold and silver coin . 500,000 45,000,000 Here we find that 15 millions of Government securities are in the issue, and 1 j millions of notes in reserve. These notes are actual legal tender money created by the Act, and have all the attributes of an unemployed surplus of cash. By diminishing, as Clause 2 allows, the “ securities ” to the full extent, the account would become, Liabilities. Notes issued . 2 . Issue Department. £ 28,000,000 Assets. Government securities .... Other securities. Gold and silver bullion .... £ Nil 28,000,000 28,000,000 and Various other National Banks. 23 Capital . Best. Public deposits . Other „ Seven days’ bills Banking Department. £ £ 14,533,000 Issue, Government se- \ curities .J 11,015,100 3,467,000 5,500,000 21,000,000 500,000 Issue, other securities .... Government „ Other securities . 3,984,900 15,500,000 14,000,000 500,000 Gold and silver coin . 45,000,000 45,000,000 But, it will be said, by tbis mere change of account you take away the reserve of notes. Yes, tbe mere change of account has this effect, as the Act on the 1 st day of September, 1844 , created that reserve of notes, and this shows that such a change of accounts has a definite, and not a fanciful effect. But although the reserve of notes has disappeared, there remains under Clause 2 , The reserve of issue of 15,000,000 1 ., under which the Bank of England has the right “ again to “ increase ” the issue of notes, within the limit assigned, or to “ diminish again.” And I recommend that this issue be made only to the extent required for filling up the amount between the notes actually in the hands of the public and the amount of bullion held, and that the balance of the 15 millions be kept in unissued reserve. Thus, on the supposition, for instance, that there are but 22 millions of bullion to 28 millions of notes in active circulation, requiring £6 milli ons of the £15 millions of issue securities, the account would be— £ 6,000,000 22,000,000 28,000,000 3 . Issue Department. £ Notes issued . 28,0 Assets. Government and other "I securities.J Gold bullion . Capital .. Best. Public deposits . Private „ Seven days’ bills. Banking Department. £ 1 4 > 533) 000 3,467,000 5,500,000 21,000,000 500,000 Issue, Government and 1 other securities .J Government securities .... Other securities . Gold and silver coin . £ 9,000,000 15,500,000 20,000,000 500,000 45,000,000 45,000,000 leaving reserve of issue, 9,000,000 1 . 24 Seyd — Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank The “other” securities in the banking department have increased by 6 millions, let us say by “ bills discounted.” And so, whether there be i, or 2, or 6, as here assumed, or 8 or io millions of the 15 mi llions of issue on securities required, would the account alter, and by increase or diminution it might be so carried on, and change from week to week, or day by day, always leaving the same margin of reserve of issue as is now done by reserve of notes. The question may now be asked, what difference will this make, whether the securities are held in the issue or the banking department of the bank, they bear the same rate of interest or profit in either ? The matter of method of investment and profit will be considered later on, in connection with the banking depart¬ ment, and the above question should rather be : What difference will it make, whether the bank has reserve of actual notes or a reserve of issue? The difference is this: the reserve of notes now created consists of actual legal-tender money, in excess of what is required for circulation, and the low rates of interest adopted on account of its existence are the causes which drive away bullion. A reserve of issue, not consisting of actual legal tender notes, would not have this effect. What is the use of the present often excessive reserve of notes ? We hear so much of banking reserve, either as being too small or found wanting in some way or another, that we should at all events closely examine what is the truth, for there is no subject in. regard to which such great errors exist as this. The phraseology current says: “We have so many liabilities, our business is so “ large, so many imprudent investments are made, and we have “ but the small reserve of notes at the Bank of England.” This phrase shows how thoroughly the subject of investment and reserve is misunderstood. The contracts which are made in the market in capital or banking money are entirely apart from the question of currency or bank notes and their circulation. No amount of actual cash in reserve can prevent the incurring of such bad contracts; they do not consume, nor do they require, circulating money, even in the event of crisis. The total amount of money circulating is, for the time being, a definite one. We here in England, after settling a great portion of our business by banking, bills, cheques, and clearing systems, require a currency, which is composed for the time being as follows:— £ 105,0 millions of gold coin. 18,0 „ silver and copper coin. 15,8 „ country notes. 2 7>5 » Bank of England notes, against which (sayl 22 mil¬ lions bullion are held. 166,3 25 of England and Various other National Banks. The country can use no more or less currency, unless by the natural expansion or contraction of population, prices, and business generally. In this composition of the currency, the Bank of England notes are the most variable, because not only does the bank virtually employ the mint, and its notes act as temporary stop-gaps, whilst gold is being coined, but the Scotch, with provin¬ cial banks, make well-known periodical demands for and returns of gold. Tet in spite of this greater variability, the circulation of the Bank of England note is fairly regular, increasing gradually, as from 1844 it has increased, from 21 to 29 millions in 1876 . And what is more important than all, and perhaps not sufficiently known, is that even in times of crisis the public do not require more bank notes. In 1847 and 1857 the circulation remained on the same level. The panic, as far as it concerned the Bank of England note issue, was not due to more money required by the public, but to the loss of bullion by the bank. In 1866 , during the extreme panic, it rose suddenly by 3 millions, but they returned immediately. If you have understood me in regard to the reserve of issue, you will perceive that variations of two or three or more millions of notes might easily be met by carrying out the true meaning of Clause 2. It will then seem singular to you that the Bank of England should keep reserves of idle notes, of 10, 15, or more millions, in the vague anticipation that some crisis may occur in ten years, especially when, as you will presently perceive, these heavy reserves are themselves the cause of the crisis in bullion. Why should the bank, when the circulation of its notes for local purposes is limited to 21 or 29 millions, create notes issued of 36, 45, or even 50 millions ? What is the use of making an “ issue “ of notes” of 50 millions, when only 29 millions can possibly be used ? In order to show the whole case, I herewith give you the lowest and highest amounts of notes in circulation, and notes issued from 1845 to 1876 :— 26 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank Table showing the Highest and Lowest Amounts of Bank of England Notes in Circulation, and Notes Issued from 1845 to 1876. In Millions. Notes in Circulation. Notes Issued. 1845 . £ £ 20 tO 23 £ £ 27 to 30 ’46 . 20 „ 22 27 „ 30 ’47* . l8 „ 21 22 „ 28 ’48 . 17 „ 20 26 „ 29 ’49 . 18 „ 20 27 , , 30 1850. IO to 21 28 to 30 • ’51. 19 „ 21 27 , , 31 ’52. 22 „ 25 31 „ 36 ’53. 21 „ 25 28 „ 34 ’54 . 20 „ 23 26 „ 30 ’55 . ip „ 22 24 , , 31 ’56 . 19 „ 21 23 „ 27 ’57* . 18 „ 21 21 , , 27 ’58 . 19 „ 21 27 „ 33 ’59 . 20 „ 22 30 , , 34 1860 . 19 to 23 27 to 30 ’61 . 19 „ 20 25 „ 30 ’62 . 19 „ 22 29 „ 32 ’63 . 19 „ 22 27 , , 29 ’64. 19 „ 21 26 „ 28 ’65. 19 „ 22 27 „ 30 ’66* . 21 „ 26 26 „ 33 ’67. 22 „ 24 33 „ 38 ’68. 22 „ 24 32 , , 37 ’69. 22 „ 24 30 , , 35 1870. 22 tO 24 33 to 37 ’71. 23 » 25 34 , , 42 ’72. 24 » 27 36 „ 40 ’73. 25 » 27 35 , , 40 ’74. 25 „ 28 34 „ 39 ’75. 26 „ 29 35 „ 45 ’76. 26 „ 29 35 , „ 50 * Years of crisis. I trust that you will understand what I have here shown as regards the absolute requirements for notes, and the principle upon which the comparative regularity of this requirement rests. The absolute uselessness of the surplus may then be manifested to you. But does the evil rest there ? Were it hut this absolute useless¬ ness the public could afford to laugh at it, but the Bank of England, having this “money” on hand, lowers the rate of interest, even down to 2 per cent., in the vain endeavour to employ it. That this endeavour is vain, that the bank obtains less business the lower the rate goes, we all know, and if it placed the rate at i per cent., or less, it would be the same. And you will understand 27 of England and Various other National Banks. that this curious position arises from nothing else than the rule tinder which currency matters stand, viz., the inability ot the country to absorb more notes than it wants. And as the full measure of this ability must be reached at times of low rates, it follows that the very name of “reserve of notes” implies an absurdity. Yet the bank poises its rates in accord with it. You will bear in mind that the above remarks refer to the use of the reserve of notes for internal purposes, those of our general home circulation, or home trade if you like; but there is the second, more important use, for the purposes of international trad . We may have to pay money abroad for loans granted by us, or for balances of trade, and gold may be withdrawn from the bank heavily. It is just upon these natural contingencies existing, for and between all nations, that the establishment of a quasi national bank, carried on under a public law a note issue on bullion and securities combined, becomes a necessity. Obviously then, in order to meet such more or less severe or temporary variations in the bullion there must be a reserve, i.e., something which for the time being can replace such bullion. Now if the present surplus of idle notes at the Bank of England is deemed to be such a reserve, I may possibly be abused as a heretic when I say to you: This reserve of notes is not only no reserve at all , but it is the cause which ruins our reserve of bullion, and it is in reality the opposite, the destroyer of reserve ! I appeal to common sense, if I ask you the following questions:— 1. Can the reserve of notes not wanted for circulation at home be used for exportation? You will agree that it cannot; what then is its use ? Pray bear in mind we have already settled that it cannot be used for home purposes. 2. Does the reserve of notes preserve the bullion held in the bank, or does it attract bullion ? You may not see any reason why it should do the former, but as regards the latter you may, at all events, have your suspicions. I, therefore, tell you that this idle reserve does not only fail in preserving bullion, is the cause why bullion can never come to an equable level at the issue department, hut it deliberately compels bullion to leave. Not only is this in accord with what I have said before this as to the principles of adjustment, not only can the simplest reflection on how contraction and expansion must be regulated, lead to this conclusion, but the actual operation itself is practically carried out by the rates of interest. Hitherto the Bank Act has caused discussion and inquiry when interest rose to 8 or io per cent., when the mischief was done. Nobody seems to think that this inquiry ought rather to take place when there is this plethora 28 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bmlc of notes, when the rate is at 2 per cent. Yet then the foundation for the higher rates is laid. These low rates deliberately invite, as before stated, the country itself to take notes, and at the same time the foreigner to take bullion. The former is futile, the latter only takes place. It can be shown to you by reference to the exchanges, that the low rates often take away bullion from us, in spite of the foreigners’ indebted¬ ness to us. At other times both the home and foreign trade resist the temptation, until the manifold contracts in both home and foreign commerce, enforced by such low rates, culminate and become tainted with speculation. Then, when a couple of millions of bullion at last go, comes the alarm, up goes the rate, losses on good and speculative business are incurred, and the noise of mutual recrimination and moralising begins over again. But it is not the extremely low rates alone which cause this mischief, they are founded on say 14 or 15 millions of idle notes, almost all the rates formed on lesser amounts must also be wrong in either direction, as those who understand the principle involved will readily admit. Hence the continual want of peace and the nervousness of our markets. And it is thus that the Bank of England reserve of idle notes not only plays with the market at all times, but that it drives bullion away; and then when the reserve of notes itself might be wanted, it is found to have disappeared with it. But, it will now be said: these variations in the rate of interest occur according to the rules of supply and demand, and further: bankers and other lenders not only follow the bank rates, but are generally offering to do business below them. The blind obedience to what are supposed to be legitimate and infallible results of supply and demand, has had a great deal to do with the errors committed. Formerly, also, the subject of money was not so well understood as it is now by our economists. We have begun to recognise that “money” may mean “coin or currency,” or “ capital, banking money,” and that these are totally different things in contract as well as in substance. The connection between them is but conditional and indirect. Here, as regards the Bank of England issue, the rate is raised on behalf of a portion of one-sixth of our currency ; viz., say 27 millions of Bank of Engl an d notes out of the total of 166 millions current, irrespective of bankers’ deposits and investments in the market. In order to show this, I submit the following statement:— of England and Various other National Banks. 29 Accounts of Nine Joint Stock Banks at the End of June, 1866 and 1867 . 30th June, 1866, Bank-rate ] :o per Cent. Liabilities. Reserves. Bills and Advances. Loudon and Westminster.... Union. Joint Stock. London and County. National. City. Consolidated . Alliance . Imperial. £ 22,637, OOO 2I,26l,000 2 °> 39 °,ooo 14,114,000 10,570,000 6,130,000 4,363,000 2,734,000 1,786,000 £ 3 , 465,000 1 , 800,000 1 , 191,000 2 , 149,000 1 , 382,000 561,000 1 , 404,000 423,000 244,000 £ 16,578,000 16,817,000 18,129,000 10,410,000 4,615,000 5,224,000 3,138,000 2,213,000 1,518,000 103,922,000 12 , 619,000 78,642,000 30th June, 1867, Bank-rate 2 % per Cent. Liabilities. Reserves. Bills and Advances. London and Westminster ... Union. Joint Stock.. London and County. National. City. Consolidated . Alliance . Imperial. £ 23,531,000 19,702,000 16,299,000 14,955,000 8,073,000 4,690,000 3,231,000 2,477,000 1,709,000 £ 2 , 718,000 1 , 700,000 1 , 600,000 2 , 284,000 869,000 503,000 492,000 317,000 273,000 £ 17,160,000 14,173,000 13,569,000 8 ) 937 ,ooo 5,700,000 3,819,000 2,428,000 2,060,000 1,360,000 94,667,000 10 , 756,000 69,206,000 Accordingly, when the rate was io per cent., these hanks had more “ money ” and more “ reserve ” than when it stood at z\ per cent. Then why does the market follow the bank-rate, why does it not hold a nniform rate of its own, independently of the Bank ? Ton may be aware that the majority of onr country bankers adhere to a uniform rate of 5 per cent, at all times, but it is not my purpose to say that London bankers should do the same, the rate of interest must vary according to several contingencies; what I contend for is, that as far as the market is concerned, it would not vary so extravagantly and suddenly if the bank did not take the lead in this. The market must follow the bank, for this reason: whenever the latter raises its rates, bankers are not only naturally disposed to make larger profits, but they are forced to follow. For if one of them held lower rates, he would of course be soon over¬ whelmed with business. And so it has become an axiom, one like so many which are had recourse to in the confusion, that bankers 30 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank must follow the Bank of England’s rising rates. Hence it has become an axiom to say: the rise and fall in the rate of interest is a matter of common natnral agreement or “ market value,” against which it is useless to say anything. Latterly, however, we have seen that whilst the bank raised the rate to 5 per cent., the bankers combined so as to remain at 3 per cent., and thus by combination the above axiom has received its practical denial. As far as low rates are concerned the market is still more bound to follow the Bank of England. Then the bank competes against the whole banking community. If at such time bankers endeavoured to hold a rate as high or higher than the bank, it follows that the latter would discount the day’s bill, say for argument’s sake 3 millions. It would pay for these with 3 millions of its sole note reserve, but would this bring 3 millions of notes into circulation ? By no means, the bankers, having missed the bills, would have 3 millions to spare, and pay them into the bank, ergo, the circulation would remain at its level, and the Bank of England would have discounted 3 millions with the addi¬ tional bankers’ balances. Among the many matters which prove that the public have an interest in the affairs of the Bank of England, this has a special claim, and bankers should reflect upon it. The fact that the bankers and others at all times hold their rates below the bank rate, is explained through the same cause. Unless they do so they are at all times subject to have their deposits captured by the bank. This unnatural process could not take place if the reserve of notes were converted into a reserve of issue. Other causes for the fact that rates of interest in the market must naturally be somewhat under the rate of the central issue bank of a country, lie in the competition to which the market, apart from the bank, is subject. There is also always a stratum of money coming in, or seeking employment, which is offered before it is incorporated with bankers’ balances. This is the case also in the banking centres of France, Germany, and elsewhere, but the central banks always maintain a standard for the time being, and the market falls back upon this when this intermediate stratum has been exhausted. From 1844 to 1876 the number of changes in the rate of interest have been 245—those during the last seven years being 95. The range of these rates may be stated as from 2 to 10 per cent. In raising and lowering these rates, the management of the bank is influenced occasionally by other considerations, by failures, wars, and, as at this time, for instance, the demands of Gera •*"' , 7 for gold; but on the whole, the “Reserve of Hotes” commands the situation. This command seems to be so imperative, that it actually defeats the action of the bank in regard to the above- 31 of England and Various other National Banks. mentioned contingencies. During the first years after 1 M,■ bank allowed a little more latitude, but experience seems to have led to greater severity, until at this time, the with rawa a-million of gold, or 2 to 3 per cent, on the stock on hand, lead to a rise of i or 2 per cent, on the rate—as recently, fro 3 > a,nd j to C per cent, in a few weeks. Throughout these oscillations, it will be found that the low ra es are the initiating ones, either in their extreme of 2 per cent, or m their intermediate stages. If they could be modified, we should have a better hold on bullion on the one hand, and on the other hand, by avoiding extremely high rates, avoid also the too abun¬ dant attraction of bullion, which always takes place ; besides which the number of changes would be less than now. That we must have variations in the rate for the purpose of regulating the bullion in the bank, no one knows better than myself. One well acquainted with the laws of exchanges, and watching daily what goes on, can measure the infallible mechanical effects of these forces, and regrets that they should be so utterly perverted and actually turned “ against” the object in view, as is the ca,se under this false and destructive system of reserve. The practice shows that with the utmost variations in the rate (for 2 per cent, and 10 per cent, may be regarded as such), there are still the utmost possible variations, and that there is just an escape with occasional suspensions of the Act. But if this system of reserve is altered, it will be found that the movements in the rate, and with them the level of bullion, will become more steady—and if, by way of general proposition—an extremely low rate of 2 per cent, initiates a large number of variations up to to per cent., I may be entitled to state that a minimnm rate of 3 per cent, will cause less variations up to 5 or 6 per cent. I am of course prepared to hear again : What is the difference whether the amount of reserve left is in notes, or in reserve of issue, and how will this latter bring about a lower minimum rate ? Having convinced you, as I trust, of the destructive nature of the reserve of notes, permit me here now to say : That the reserve of notes is created by a transaction entered into many yea/rs ago on Government and other securities, say at 3 per cent, interest; and that the interest value of 11 money ” thereby created, is no longer a matter of much consideration, but under the reserve of issue, requiring the transfer of Government securities to the issue department at the time of the demand, the immediate consideration involved would be fiuu of a higher rate of interest than that attached to the issue Those who understand the connection between these matters, and are willing to construct Clause 2 as it ought to be constructed, 32 Seyd— Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank will at once see this point; but in the following portion of this paper, the subject may be made more evident. I now come to the banking department of the Bank of England. You are aware that by the Act, it is separated from the issue. You are also aware that a great deal of discussion prevails on this “ separation.” The one party says that the separation is complete ; that the issue is the “ public,” the banking the “ private ” depart¬ ment ; and certain axioms are formed on the notion that the one has nothing to do with the other. Sir Robert Peel himself did not say this, although he provided for the separation of the accounts. Other people say the separation is a mere matter of fancy, and that .the two accounts might be merged into one. I agree with the latter, and as I have shown in the diagrams, the foreign banks (excepting that of Russia) follow this plan. [Never¬ theless I say that the separation of accounts between issue and banking may well be maintained, if Clause 8 of the Act is carried out as here suggested, for it would then always show the exact state of the issue, namely, the notes actually in circulation against bullion, and the requisite amount of securities for the difference between circulation and bullion. Any discussion then as to this separation is superfluous. I now submit to you the account of the Bank of England of the 1 st September, 1875 , which happens to represent the state of things with the 15 millions of notes in reserve. This account is interesting also for the purpose of showing again the play with bullion. You will see by the diagram that at the beginning of the year the rates were 5 and 4 and 3^ per cent., the bank and bullion rose, the bank then went down to 2 per cent., and bullion disappeared again rapidly. The account is as follows :—• Weekly Statement of Bank of England, 1 st September, 1875 . 4 . Issue Department. £ Assets. £ Government securities .... 11,015,100 Other securities . 39,84,900 Gold bullion . 28,332,500 Silver „ . — Liabilities. Notes issued . 43,332,520 43 , 332 , 52 * 43 5 3 3 2 , 52 0 Capital .. Rest. Public deposits . Other „ . Seven days’ bills, &c. Banking Department. £ 1 4 , 533 ,°°° 3,680,640 4 ,° 93,998 25,010,195 362,296 Q-overnment securities .... Other securities . Notes in reserve. Gold and silver coin . £ i3,59Gi39 18,369,782 15 , 043 , 43 ° 695,778 47 , 700,129 47,70°,i29 33 of England and Various other National Banks. There were accordingly in circulation 28,289,090/. of notes, and according to the last parliamentary returns, on the 1 st September, 1875 , the bankers’ balances were 12,515,000/. Of the Other securities in the banking department on that date, 4,467,000/. were bills discounted, and 1,990,000/. temporary advances. I must mention that in this account the bills discounted and temporary advances are somewhat larger than they have been at previous occasions when the 15 millions were in reserve, when bills were as low as 2 millions, and temporary advances at half-a-million. I much regret being unable to give an account of 1876 ; but as already stated, the Bank of England has refused to Parliament to give the returns of bills discounted for that year. I will now restate this account (in round figures for con¬ venience). The Other securities in this issue are also Government securities, and may be joined to the debt into the one amount of 15 millions. The bankers’ balances and bills discounted and advances (as taken from parliamentary returns on that day) will be stated separately. The account would then be:— Notes issued 5 . Issue Department. G-overnment and other 1 securities.J I 5>°oo,ooo Bullion . . . z8,300,coo Banking Department. £ Capital . 14,553,000 Best... 3,667,000 Public deposits . 4,100,000 Other „ . iz,400,000 Bankers’ balances . iz,600,000 Seven days’ bills. 400,000 47,700,000 £ Government securities .... 13,600,000 Other securities . iz, 100,000 Bills. CM 4,400,000 Advances...,. 1,900,000 Notes in reserve. 15,000,000 Coin. 700,000 47,700,000 I may now ask your permission to set aside the item of 15 millions of notes, as assets in the banking department, and to deduct 15 millions of the “notes issued” as liability in the issue department. We are of course all aware of the discussion as to liability on one side being made an asset on the other, but we may for once look at the real liabilities and assets in one account, especially as you are aware that I myself shall recur to the separa¬ tion of issue from banking. The Government securities in the issue department would then 34 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank be joined to those in the banking, and as capital and rest may also be tbns added together, the account would be :— 6 . Issue and Banking Departments. Beal Liabilities. £ Notes in circulation . 28 , 300,000 Beal Assets. Bullion . Capital and rest ... Public deposits ... Other Bankers’ balances Seven days’ bills... 18,200,000 4,100,000 12,400,000 12,600,000 400,000 Government securities .... Other securities . Bills. Advances. Coin. £ 12,100,000 1,900,000 700,000 The notes balancing against bullion, a look at the other assets may lead us to think that 28,600,000/. of Government securities is rather a large item. Of these Government securities the 15 millions from the issue were acquired or purchased long ago; of those in the banking department a small portion is said to consist of exchequer bills, the rest are also purchased. But large as the amount seems, it is not all. The 12,100,000/. Other securities are also purchased. A small portion may represent the house properties of the bank, all the rest are stated to be colonial, railway debentures, or other stock, including perhaps mortgages. No information whatever is afforded on the point, and the bank must not wonder if people think that there may be even more unsuitable banking securities than mortgages. But let the 12,100,000/. consist of such stocks as above mentioned, and let them be almost as “ good” Government securities themselves, what I want to show here is that they are not current securities such as bills and advances. And I am consequently entitled to call the whole of the Government and other securities (not bills and advances) purchased stock, by way of distinction. Against the following liabilities of the Bank of England there would be the following assets : — £ Liability to shareholders . 18,200,000 „ depositors . 29,100,000 „ on seven days’ bills. 400,000 Against Asset of purchased stock . 40,700,000 „ bills discounted . 4,400,000 „ temporary advances . 1,900,000 Jy coin . 7oo a ooo We find accordingly that the Bank of England not only invests its capital and rest in stocks, but of the 29,100,000/. of other people’s money, including 12,600,000/. bankers’ balances, no less of England and Various other National Banks. 35 than 22,500,000 1 . are also so invested. And against this the bank offers to the public the 15 millions of notes in reserve, which, as I have shown you, are utterly unacceptable and unnecessary for the circulation. This is so when the hank, according to the above account, is at its best as regards strength, but when even this reserve diminishes by withdrawal of bullion, say to one-half, we see high rates of interest and approach panic, which now-a-days would be at its height with 5 millions of this kind of reserve. I do not belong to the class of pessimists who by way of grievance are fond of predicting a coming failure of the bank, for as we all know, the bank would not only pay 20 s. in the pound to noteholders, depositors and shareholders, but the Government would come forward as it has done before; but the question is whether “ such things should be.” I hold that in the first place, banking capital should not be invested, or appear invested in Government securities. Now we know that the State has borrowed £ 11 millions from the bank, and that this forms a part of the security for the £15 millions of note issue above bullion. Although this violates the principle, and although it is often recommended that the State should pay back this debt, let us nevertheless pass over this item and accept this £11 millions as a fait accompli confined to £11 millions only. But when we find that besides this £11 millions as original Government debt, and a further £4 millions of so-called Other securities (but also Government securities) in the issue, there are further much larger amounts in the banking department; when out of £29 millions of deposits, no less than £22^ millions are virtually invested in such fixed securities, I say that this is a most improper and dangerous state of things. In a trading community like this, the current balances and reserves should not be locked up in this way. Sarcasm might say that if the bank can do no more than this, the depositors might so invest their funds themselves and earn the interest thereon, instead of the bank. It might be suggested, for instance, that bankers who keep £122 millions of balances, which the bank invests chiefly in fixed' securities, should withdraw these and keep them at the clearing house, investing £6 millions in consols, and keeping £6f millions in cash. It would certainly pay them well, and give them a reserve of their own. I say deliberately, that the Bank of England, by its present system, utterly perverts the banking reserves of this country. I presume that it is not necessary here to enter into a discussion as to the relative goodness or safety of Government securities and stocks versus bills. Our first class bills occupy the first rank; and if this country should ever suffer from a general decline, the Government securities will have become inferior long before bills. Bills continually discharge them- 36 Set d—D iagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bunk selves, and a bank having a good stock of them can always rely upon a cash income from them day by day; they are also contracts for definite amounts. G-overament and other stocks “lock up ” money, and this can only be released by a spasmodic contract for their sale, involving inconvenience and loss. And in the event of a crisis and generally depressed market, their realisation is most diffi¬ cult or even impossible. Permit me now to say this to you: We have, since 1844 , witnessed many surprises as regards the Bank of England. What¬ ever may have caused the crisis of 1844 and 1857 , we were amazed at the rapidity with which the bank lost bullion, and the suspensions of the Bank Act. Matters were then brought to the “verge,” and the situation was just saved by high rates of interest, acting on bullion from abroad. In 1847 , the bankers’ balances ranged between i to 2 millions ; in 1857 between 2 and 3 millions. In 1866 we had greater difficulty in obtaining bullion, for France had become a powerful holder; bankers’ balances were then at from 4 to 6 millions. Even then the question was mooted whether bankers and others, instead of keeping their balances at the bank and actually increasing them, should not withdraw them. At the present time Germany has joined the claimants for gold, and other States are going to do so. In the event of a great crisis here, these countries will defend themselves, and I anticipate that it will be more difficult for us to obtain gold from abroad than before. I foresee that in the next coming conflict or crisis for gold, the Bank of England may again put the rate at so high and impracticable a figure, that the market is bound, as was recently the case, to dissent from it. At such a time, bankers instead of allowing the bank to invest their balances in Government securities, may really withdraw them, so as to act independently of the bank. What the effect of this will be on the bank, when at the same time that institution is in distress for bullion, I must leave you to judge. Do not let us plead here in an indefinite way, the bank will not let it come so far, or some means will be found to avert this. What I have said to you, may not only appear probable to you, it is, in my opinion, inevitable before long. It cannot be said that this over-investment in Government securi¬ ties and other stocks, is a matter of deliberate policy on the part of the bank. It is true, allowance must be made for the bank’s habit of dealing in Government securities before 1844 ; and for the acquisi¬ tion of Other securities which are not bills and advances, the bank may plead that it has the duty and the right to support certain other interests. Although other great banks abroad do not hold this view, and think that banking capital and resources ought to be of England and Various other National Banks. 37 employed in bills, yet we may here concede to the Bank of England, that to a certain extent it can plead its old habits and policy, We need not therefore forbid the bank not to invest in Government securities and other stocks, but when we see the over-investment in them is so prodigious, we can no longer admit such a plea. That this is not a question of superior goodness of such securities over bills and advances, the Bank of England itself admits. It is always ready to take bills, and in times of crisis even, when bills are not quite so reliable, will take very large amounts. It has frequently reduced, or attempted to reduce, the Government securities in order to be able to take bills. It has actually sold them at a loss, and has even borrowed money on them, so as to be able to discount bills. That this is not a question of scarcity of bills is proven by these very transactions. One of the governors of the bank, in answer to a question as to the paucity of bills held by the institution, led the questioner to infer that this was a mere matter of supply and demand, and that bills were scarce. The fact is, the bank cannot take the bills excepting against bullion, for it is crammed with these stocks. It need only succeed in selling, or in borrowing on the latter in order to obtain the means of discounting, and that this is not a matter of supply of money in the market is evident, for if the capitalist had not advanced his money to the bank on the fixed securities, he might have discounted the bills himself. Our market offers a choice of all sorts of securities, the greater portion being bills. Deducting from the national debt and colonial and other stocks such portions as are held by public institutions, families, and individuals by way of investment of fortunes, which absorbs the great bulk of the total, there remains a residuum afloat in the market held by bankers, by the Stock Exchange, and others, for what may be called purposes of business. This residuum is available together with the general mass of bills and advance busi¬ ness, and with it forms an aggregate of a more or less definite amount. Including what is held by the Bank of England, the amount of such Government securities in the open market may be stated at 75 millions. The bills current, even at the present depressed time, may be stated at 150 millions. How whether these figures are strictly correct or not, it must be evident to all, that the latter are by far the more frequent and the more suitable security. I then may state nothing extravagant, if I say that the Bank of England, instead of holding 40 millions of Government and other stocks, and but 4 millions of bills, should hold say 20 millions of the former, and 22 millions of the latter, or more or less. What then is the cause which seems to force the bank into this over-investment in Government and fixed securities P The true 38 Seyd — Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank cmse is again to be found in the extremely low rates of interest engen¬ dered by the present system of reserve of notes. When the rate is at 2 or 2%, and Government securities at 3 per cent., and Other securities at higher rates up to 4! per cent., are available, it follows that the bank prefers to invest in them. The market being always below the rate, the bank even invests increasing deposits in more Government securities. A reference to the accounts will show that the Government and Other securities (not bills) have thus gradually increased, keeping pace with the deposits, whilst the margin left for bills has scarcely altered. There are certain variations in the amounts, dependent on movements in Exchequer bills and other claims. The bank, as before stated, has also from time to time sold Government securities, and for the purpose of meeting dividends and other payments, a certain degree of movability has been maintained, but throughout, the general increase of these purchased securities holds good. It is obvious also that the various more or less serious attempts of the bank (influenced no doubt also by the varied views of successive changes in the court of directors), to part with a portion of such purchased securities, were defeated by the extreme variations in the rate, as it involves contradiction. For when the rate is at 2 and 2 \ per cent., the proper time for selling Government securities at a good price, the 3 per cent, interest they bring, deters the bank from selling. On the other hand, when the rate rises, Government securities fall in price and their sale entails losses. Although the bank has submitted to them on several occasions, it must necessarily object to them. The whole business has therefore drifted into its present position, and is accepted as a matter of fate. A secondary cause arises from this position. The Bank of England loses control over the discount market, or rather, such control as it is entitled to, because it is such a weak participator m the business. As I have stated, the small stock of bills of a couple of millions frequently consists only of discount granted to current account customers which are not strong enough to discount outside, and for weeks and months the bank is separated from the great discount business of the market. From this generally limited stock, 60,000/. to 100,000/., may fall due per day, and this is so small, that bankers and others may take it up from the odds and ends in their bills, from the “between stratum” of money before mentioned. But if the bank held a stock of 22 to 25 millions of bills, of which 800,000/. to 1,000,000/. fell due per day on the average, its control and influence would be quite a different thing. The bank could then insist upon parting again with the cash received on its own more effective and independent terms only. 39 of England and Various other National Banks. I trust that I have succeeded in showing to you that the two great anomalies from which the hank suffers, viz., the insecurity of the bullion in the issue, on the one hand, and the peculiar method of investment of the deposits in the banking department, are due, in the first instance, to the extremely low rates of interest. Connected with these two anomalies are a variety of other incongruous matters which confuse our market, but space is wanting here to trace them. I contend now that in the same way as the carrying out of Clause 2 according to its wording will cause a more equable state of bullion level in the issue, so will it give a different complexion to this business of the banking department. You will recollect that under this clause the reserve of notes would disappear, the issue liabilities would be simply the amount of notes in circulation against bullion, and such of the securities as would be required to fill up the difference. I now repeat the previous account, but ask permis¬ sion to leave out bills and advances, on the assumption that the bank had invested everything in Government securities and Other securities. The account would be :— Notes in circulation 7 . Issue Department. £ Government securities .... 28,300,000 Bumon . 28,300,000 £ 28,300,000 Capital. Rest. Public deposits . Other „ Seven days’ bills. Banking Department. £ 14,533,000 3,667,000 4,100,000 25,000,000 400,000 Government securities .... Other securities. Coin. 47,700,000 JReserve of issue, 15,000,000 1. £ 28,600,000 18,400,000 700,000 47,700,000 It will be readily admitted that if with this position the ban 1 " is not anxious to get rid of bullion by putting the rate down, there is no need whatever for going below the rate of 3 per cent, which is that of the Government securities. Supposing then that more notes were required for circulation, or what is practically a similar thing, that bills were offered for discount for the with¬ drawal of bullion to the extent of 3 millions. Having a reserve of issue of 15 millions, of which, according to Clause 2, it can make use by increasing or diminishing the securities in the issue, the bank would say: We have invested our funds in securities at a 40 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank minimum rate of interest of 3 per cent., if you will give us more than that rate, we will bring our reserve into action, place 3 millions of securities into the issue, and take your bills into the banking depart¬ ment. The account would then appear, i.e., in the event of redaction of bullion, as:— Notes in circulation 8 . Issue Department. £ Government securities .... *8,300,000 BuUion . 28,300,000 £ 3,000,000 25,300,000 28,300,000 Banking, Department. Capital. £ . 14,533.000 Government securities ... £ 25,600,000 Best. Other securities . O O O Public deposits . Other „ . . 25,000,000' Bills discounted. 3,000,000 Seven days’ bills. Coin. 700,000 47,700,000 47,700,000 Reserve of issue, 12,000,000 1* But now the problem may be started, suppose a banker with¬ draws say £3 millions of his balances. This would mean a decrease of 3 millions in the Other deposits and an increase of £3 millions in the circulation of notes, the one liability would be given up against the other, and the account. The bank would simply transfer £3 millions more of its securities to the issue, and pay the banker. It is needless to say that the latter, unless he wants to amuse him¬ self by holding £3 millions of notes idle in his till, would not pass these notes into circulation, ergo, it is likely that he would soon pay them back again. The case would be simply one of temporary increase of circulation, and be treated on the same principles. How whether there is an increase in the circulation simulta¬ neously with a decrease in bullion or withdrawal of deposits, whether there are already bills discounted and temporary advances, so as to render the account say as follows :— 9 . Issue Department. £ , . Government securities Notes m circulation . 29,300,000 Bullion £ 6,000,000 23,300,000 29,300,000 29,300,000 of England and Various other National Banks. Banking Department. 41 Capital. Rest. Public deposits . Other „ Seven days’ bills. £ i 4i£33j 000 3,667,000 4,100,000 23,000,000 400,000 Government securities .... Other securities . Bills discounted. Temporary advances . Coin. £ 21,900,000 12,100,000 9,000,000 2,000,000 700,000 45,700,000 45,700,000 Reserve of issue, 9,000,000 1., I contend that the 9 millions of bills- and the 2 millions of tem¬ porary- advances, should not have entered the banking department unless at a rate higher than 3 per cent., that all contingencies, with¬ drawal of bullion or increase of circulation through discount of bills or withdrawal of deposits, might hinge upon this minimum rate. And this contains the principle and the true practice under which an issue so constituted ought to be handled. Examine now whether there are any contingencies which would induce the bank to lower the rate below 3 per cent. The first is the suggestion that bullion might exceed even the amount in circulation, as has been the case occasionally. As the deposits cost the bank nothing, and as this surplus bullion does not increase the expenditure of the issue, I do not see that the bank need lower the rate, it may as well allow the bullion to drift away, as surely it will, without pressure. But, it will be said here, the bank should not allow the bullion even to be at the level of the circula¬ tion, for then it makes not only no profit on the issue, but loses the expenditure. This question must now be closely examined. It can be shown that now the bank loses more than 120,000/. on the issue. But if Clause 8 is amended in the way I suggest, there would be, at the full cover of bullion, no fiduciary issue, and consequently the payment to the State of 195,000/. would be sus¬ pended for the time. There would remain then the technical expenditure of the issue, which may be stated at 180,000/. per annum. Several items are included in this 180,000/. which do not properly belong to it, and the arrangement generally confers great economy on the banking department, which would not otherwise be the case. Assuming that 150,000/. be the true cost, it would follow that the bank thus has at its disposal a reserve of 15 millions, which cost it 1 per cent, per annum. And this in itself is a prodigious advantage over all other banks, with which the Bank of England might be well satisfied. I am well aware it might here be said, the Bank of France has adopted the rate of 2 per cent., and maintained it,for a long time. True, but the Bank of France’s position is a most exceptional one. 42 Setjd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank It held upwards of 90 millions of bullion (against the 27 millions of the Bank of England), and besides this, the exchanges continue so strongly in favour of France, the loss on its note issue becoming so serious, that bullion had to be got rid of at all costs. Were we in England in the same position, I do not mean to say that we might not also adopt a lower rate than 3 per cent., but in the ordinary practice this should not occur. The question involved is in reality one of fair bullion level to be arrived at. It must be borne in mind that in the above accounts I have assumed the full amount of bullion for the circulation, in order to simplify the matter. I take the xoo per cent, bullion, as a starting point, it is the safest level of bullion, but it may be conceded that 90, or 80, or 75 per cent, are practically as safe for the conversion of the bank note. It would be for the bank itself to determine the point at which, from time to time, it may deem it prudent to uphold the percentage of bullion. Those who watch the accounts must be aware, for instance, that during the last two or three years the bank, in view of the German demand and general doubt in the market, has wisely aimed at a comparatively higher level than before. At a level of 75 per cent., for instance, in a circulation of 28 millions, would give a margin of 7 millions, and the interest earned on this would be amply sufficient to cover the expenditure. And as we all know, the bank is not actuated by sordid motives, and as other great advantages will arise from this to both bank and the public, I have no doubt but that the bank will prefer some surplus of bullion. On the whole, however, it will be understood that if the very low rates are avoided, there will be no need for extremely high rates. These high rates, by their violent action, cause the violent over attraction of bullion, although at other times (as at present) slackness of international trade may contribute to the return of bullion here. Under the less spasmodic action which the proposed practice will engender, these extremes will be also avoided, and a better general level can be relied upon. Whether then, as I have assumed above, the bullion be 100 per cent, or less, the rule that 3 per cent, should be the minimum rate remains the same. The open market may then go to any figure of interest below 3 per cent, without the bank being in the least compelled to follow it. I have explained why the market rates must always be some¬ what below the bank-rate; why, according to the intermediate stratum of money, the market rate may fall lower by competition among the lenders. When this stratum is exhausted, they must revert to the bank. But, it may here be asked, when the bills held by the bank run off, how will it obtain new bills when the outside rates are lower ? Here the difference between borrowing and 43 of England and Various other National Banks. banking money will become more than ever apparent. You are aware that the circulation of Bank of England notes for the time being is an absolute factor in the general system which brooks no diminution. A certain definite amount must be had. Now if out of the bank’s stock of bills, say 3 millions fell due, and notes to that extent came into the hands of the bank, out of a circulation of 28 millions, leaving 25 millions, the 3 millions would again be . required a tout prix. The bank would consequently say: “ If you “ want the 3 millions of notes back again, you must give me first- u class bills, and you must pay me at least 3 per cent, interest.” In fact, the bank might say : “ You outside people make all sorts of “ contracts in money’s worth, whether such money’s worth be in “ stocks, in goods, in ships, in apples, or oranges, and call this the “ money market. By certain arrangements, I am made chief agent “ for the supply of current money, and especially privileged by law “ for the supply of notes. I am the contractor for British currency; “ you may do what you like among yourselves, but if you want “ British currency (gold for export or notes for circulation), you “ must give me at least 3 per cent, interest for it, and as much “ more as I may deem proper for its protection.” And here I bring back to you the important principle of “ con- “ sideration ” involved, which under the present system, was lost long ago by the immediate investment of the 15 millions in the issue, whereas, by the proposed plan, this “ consideration ” would be continually alive, and would be used so as to suit the reality of the moment, and the possible altered state of the times generally. The statement of accounts which I last submitted to you shows that there were as assets:— £ Government securities . 23,900,000 Other securities . 12,100,000 Bills discounted. 9,000,000 Temporary advances . 2,000,000 Coin. 700,000 with a reserve of issue amounting to 9,000,000?. Now, although this shows an improved state of things as regards bills, yet it may appear to some that a total amount of 36 millions of purchased securities is still very large, and there would be (referring to Account No. 9 ) 6 millions Government securities in the issue. In fact, as you recollect, the statement was founded on the assumption that almost the whole of the assets were of this character. The suggestion might now be made, that the bank should sell say 5, or 10, or more millions of such fixed securities when prices are suitable. Having done so, what would the bank get back again ? Would it be obliged to offer cheaper rates for 44 Seh) —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank bills ? I maintain, upon wbat I bave shown before, that through the right of issue the bank could insist upon having bills at 3 per cent, or at such a rate above it as it would deem expedient. The question then arises, how. much in Government and other securities shall the bank keep ? I trust no one thinks me pre¬ sumptuous enough to prescribe anything of the kind, but I may be permitted to point out that if we adhere to the limit of 15 millions of notes not founded on bullion, and that these should be covered by Government security, a total amount of 15 millions would practically suffice. That the bank would hold more occasionally results from its dealings with the State. The bank’s investments in colonial, railway, and other matters are a delicate matter to deal with, but I should say that the amount might be reduced. Permit me, therefore, to suggest that an account as follows might represent what I may call a “ fair ” state of matters :— 10 . Issue Department. £ £ Grovernment securities ... . 5,000,000 Notes in circulation .. Bullion. . 23,000,000 28,000,000 28,000,000 Banking Department. £ £ Capital. . 14,533.000 G-overnment securities ... . 13,000,000 Rest. . 3,667,000 Other securities . . 10,000,000 Public deposits . . 5,400,000 Bills discounted. . 23,000,000 Other ... . 26,000,000 Temporary advances . • 3.300,000 Seven days’ bills.. . 400,000 Coin.. 700,000 50,000,000 50,000,000 Reserve of issue, 10,000,0001. Rate of interest, 4 per cent. It is understood of course that this account may greatly vary. There may be more notes in circulation, more or less deposits, &c. I am satisfied that besides the greater peace in our money market, the Bank of England itself would make much larger profits. For the purpose of showing the altered state of things in a graphic form, I have prepared a diagram headed Illustrations of Action. Under the present interpretation I Under the proposed interpretation of Clause 2. I of Clause 2. and ranged a number of accounts under cash heading. On the left side, No. 1 represents a fair state of matters at the bank with 45 of England and Various other National Ba/nks. 9 millions of idle notes, and interest at 4 per cent. No. 2 shows how increase of deposits leads to a partial increase in purchased securities and bills. No. 3 shows an increase in bullion and reserve, a corresponding decline in bills, and a rate of 2 per cent. No. 4 , the rapid decline in bullion and spasmodic increase of bills with interest at 10 per cent. No. 5 shows how, at such times, the bankers’ (and other) deposits increase, and how the bank itself discounts more bills with their balances. No. 6 shows the rapid accumulation of bullion, the sudden great rise in the reserve, and the decline of interest again to 2 per cent., and the withdrawal of the assistance the bank has had through more deposits. No. 6, shown as a broader strip, then shows the state of account, when the whole 15 millions are in reserve, and the bills at their usually low state, and interest again at 2 per cent. Under “ Proposed Interpreta- “ tion of Clause 2 ,” the broad strip No. 8 now represents the state of accounts, showing the issue securities in the banking department. This real state shows the overwhelming mass of purchased secu¬ rities in blue, and the small margin of bills and advances at the top. This is the state when the rate of interest ought not to be below 3 per cent. At the bottom, the red line shows the reserve of issue, apart from the account, as the extra item of asset above the others, for the case of need or “ occasion.” No. 9 demonstrates how the disposal of 10 millions of fixed securities, out of the 42 millions, and the withdrawal at the same time of 5 millions of bullion, would place the same amount of Government securities into the issue, increasing bills, on a rate possibly of 4 per cent. Nos. 10 and 11 show the disposal of another 10 millions of fixed securities, leaving 22 millions, and carries the action on with more deposits. No. 12 shows a rise of bullion to full level and diminution of bills, the rate reaching its minimum of 3 per cent, again. No. 13 shows a presumed with¬ drawal of bullion, a rate of 6 per cent, and more bills. No. 14 finally shows the increasing business, and a fair state of future accounts at rates between 3 and 4 per cent. A thorough investiga¬ tion of what is at work in all this may show that these diagrams do not rest on mere assumptions. They give a fair representation, although rates and amounts may differ in actual practice, and accord¬ ing to the circumstances of the moment; but they clearly show the margins of independent reserve of issue left, the more regular state of bullion and interest, and the naturally larger acquisition of active business in bills and advances, still leaving a good stock of Government and Other securities. It is my opinion that if Clause 2 is acted upon, there will be even better results than are here hinted at by these diagrams. It may be necessary for me here to allude to the transfer of 46 Seyd —Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Panic the securities between the issue and banking department, so as to avoid this matter being made a point to cavil at. Originally these securities were “ transferred ” from the banking to issue, and their diminution and “ increase again” within the limit of 15 millions naturally implies the same process. I do not know whether the bank keeps the 3,987,100?. “ Other ” issue securities in a special cupboard, but the 11,015,100?. Government debt is a book-debt, and cannot be so locked up. Many people have suggested that the Government should repay this debt, or convert it into consols. Neither is necessary; it is not a vital point at all, and as we agree that some such amount as 15 millions might be kept in Government securities at the bank, the “ passing ” of the whole, or part of them, becomes a matter of book-keeping in such a form as will satisfy the “ separation ” of the issue from the banking department. Those who are willing to understand the whole case, may now also see that although the limit of £15 millions of note issue on securities is assumed here as being sufficient, yet that there might be no harm, if in accordance with increase of population and other matters, that limit was increased to £17 or £20 millions: not that this is asked here, for the whole Act is to remain as it is, Clause 8 only requiring amendment, but at some future time the question of more allowance might be raised. The great secret lies in the words: Do not use your issue allowance at once, from the very beginning , but only so much of it as is absolutely required, holding the rest intact as issue in reserve, and when this principle is acted upon, the “limit” is in reality a matter of secondary consideration. I now venture to ask you to review what I have laid before you in reference to the Bank of England, and whether I have with some degree of consistency, concentrated my case upon the nice point involved. The whole problem of the Bank of England issue has been fought over ever since 1847 . The wildest schemes have been suggested by way of substitute for it. Painful inquiries having led to no result, and the principles of the Act, in its limitation of the issue, being thoroughly sound, the majority of thinking and prudent men, in their faith in these principles, have come to the conclusion that nothing more can be done, whilst the practice of the directors of the bank has settled into a distinct form, wherein their wisdom does the best that can be done. Yet every day shows us that there is something that does not fit. It is the case of a splendid piece of machinery with a flaw in one apparently unimportant part. I take this stand-point, and instead of proposing some heroic revolutionary remedy, I say to you: the Act is perfect in its way— amend only Clause 8, so as to set free this hitch as to Clause 2 . I am satisfied that the logician and mathematician will at once under- 47 'of England and Various other National Banks. stand that which is involved in the fault of keeping an allowance intended to regulate its accompanying factor at the same amount at all times, as minimum and maximum combined so to speak. Others may appreciate this matter from what I have said respecting contraction and expansion. As to the practical effects, the “difference this would make,” both as to bullion, and the different results in the banking department, I may have furnished material enough to convince others of the validity of the matter. Supposing then that this validity were recognised to some extent, and that Clause 2 itself required amending. Leaving the limit at 15 millions, would it not be a prudent thing to say : This is our limit, we cannot go beyond it, for at certain times even this limit may be too much, and utterly defeat the object aimed at ? Let us therefore amend Clause 2, so as to make the issue pliable, as a still greater safeguard. But as I have shown, this amendment is not necessary, for Clause 2 already contains this proviso for li dimi¬ nution,” and “increase again” in distinct words, which cannot bear any other construction than that here put upon them. I then point out to you that Clause 8 is in conflict with Clause 2, and ask that this be amended only. And even if you ignore all that has been said in reference to the principles involved, I claim that this ought to be done as a mere point of order, so as to supply what may be called a clerical omission on the part of the person who drafted the Act, for the “ diminution ” in Clause 2— however remote it might appear —whatever different construction others may put upon it, ought to be followed by a proviso for diminution in Clause 8. I suggest then that for the words of Clause 8, beginning with “ And be it “ enacted, &c.,” and ending with “the annual sum of 180,000/.,” there be substituted, “ And be it enacted that from and after the “ day of , the payment of the annual sum of 180,000/., “ made by the said Governor and Company under this clause here- “ tofore, shall cease, and in lieu thereof, in consideration of the pri- “ vilege of exclusive banking, and during the continuance thereof, “ but no longer, the said Governor and Company shall deduct and “ allow to the public from the sums now payable by law to the said “ Governor and Company for the charges of management of the “ public debt, a sum of money equal to the rate of per cent, per “ cmrwm on such amounts of notes issued on securities from the issue “ to the bemking department, under the provisions of Clause 2 of this “ Act, from week to week (or day by day?)." Any other rate than 2 \ per cent, might be determined upon. This then is the point which in this splendid machinery requires adjustment. The question might be asked: Is there any absolute need for this; cannot the bank carry out Clause 2 without reference to Clause 8 ? It would be most unfair to demand this, G 48 Seyd — Diagrams Exhibiting the Positions of the Bank, Sfc. for there should be a clear motive of interest in all such matters. But there is a more weighty reason why Clause 8 should be so amended. Be it frankly stated, that among the directors of the bank there are several leading gentlemen, who during the thirty years of existence of the present system have become so orthodox as to the personal and other practices involved, that they are likely to refuse to “see” this case, and if asked by the Government, may pooh- pooh the matter. If the Government rose superior to this, and amended Clause 8, it would not in the least lay itself open to the charge of interfering with the policy of the bank directors; it would leave them the option, and it is but reasonable to suppose that they would see the profit and loss, and act in accordance there¬ with. The Government would do no more than set right a law, and by so doing it would perform a legal and easy, but also a graceful service, for the purpose of helping the whole of this business over the style. The budget would not suffer from this change, but would derive more from the average of its share, and the bank’s greater profit would soon be manifest. But far beyond this, our money market would become more peaceful, the mutual relations would be better understood, and our commerce become more re¬ gular. Indeed, as our money market leads that of the world, there would be greater peace and greater regularity in the foreign markets, to the better advantage of our own interests. I conceive that at this time especially, when the international valuations are undergoing a kind of revolution, when the conditions under which balances of trade have hitherto arisen, appear to operate in different directions, we ought to apply all our fair science and common sense towards the refinement and better adjustment of the important subject here under consideration. Discussion on Me. Seyd’s Paper. Mr. R. B. Martin said lie should like to ask Mr. Seyd whether any of the foreign State hanks, whose statistics were exhibited, received money on deposit at interest, because if they did so, it would make a very great difference in comparing their position with those banks that did not do so. Of course eveiybody was aware that there were two great functions of banking : the one was the keeping the current accounts for customers, paying the amount of their balances against cheques, and making a profit out of the average amount of permanent balance. The other, which had sprung up in England in comparatively late years, was that of largely receiving money on deposit at interest. The convenience of this system was very great, and enabled persons wishing temporary employment of a sum of money to receive back the identical sum with a certain amount of profit on it, without finding that it was like stocks, or even Government security, liable to fluctuation in value; so that the interest his money had earned him might bo taken away by depreciation of the capital when he wished to realise his security. All joint stock banks had developed this to a very large extent. The Bank of England had not done so; and of course this consideration would make the greatest difference in the figures in any comparative table of the Bank of England, whether compared with joint stock banks in England or with the foreign State banks, if they receive money at interest or trans¬ acted business of a decidedly different character. There was another question he should like to ask: that was, as to the profits made by the Bank of England, compared with those of other similar banks. He would ask whether the Bank of England had given its shareholders an equal, a greater, or less profit per cent, than banks of a similar class in other countries. Mr. Newmarch, E.R.S., delivered a speech of some length in reply to Mr. Seyd’s paper. Mr. Newmarch most fully admitted the labour and ingenuity displayed by Mr. Seyd, but he dissented entirely from the argument and conclusions of the paper. Mr. Newmarch did not consider that the Act of 1844 in the least admitted the new reading proposed. And supposing the new reading to be admitted, ,Mr. Newmarch was quite unable to see that it would give the relief which Mr. Seyd set forth so elaborately. (Eor a further account of Mr. Newmarch’s speech, see “ Additional Remarks” at the end.) Mr. Doxsey, referring to the difficulty pointed out by Mr. New¬ march, that a bank in a time of panic would have in meeting a cheque for 3 \ millions, when it had only 500,000 1. of bullion, said that if he understood Mr. Seyd aright, he would meet the difficulty by transferring 3^ millions of the 15,000,000?. Government securities to the asset column in the issue department; and upon that he would 50 Discussion have a right to issue 3,500,000/. of notes. He would then transfer them to the banking department; and instead of Government secu¬ rities he would put as one of his assets, 15,000,000/. of notes. There would then be no difficulty in meeting the cheque for 3-^ millions, which would be obtained in notes. If the notes were wanted to obtain bullion, they could be sent back to the issue department, and the gold and silver bullion would be exchanged for notes and cashed out of the 28,000,000/.; so much as was necessary being transferred from the issue department to the other department. It seemed to him that Mr. Newmarch’s admirable speech had not in this point invalidated Mr. Seyd’s conclusions. The course he had indicated would furnish the reply he would adopt if he were in Mr. Seyd’s position. Mr. Giffev said that the last speaker had overlooked that in the case supposed the bank would be dealing with the account as if it remained in the old form, whilst Mr. Seyd was arguing for a new state of things. He wished to call Mr. Seyd’s attention to one or two points which he desired to be cleared up in reference to the diagrams. One was with reference to the Bank of England refusing information as to its discounts and advances. He thought that Mr. Seyd had attacked the Bank of England very severely on this point. There was also an impression abroad that the Bank of England had not given to iffie House of Commons that information which Mr. Seyd alleged had been asked for many years, and he also assumed that that information had been asked for last year; but— for what reason he (Mr. Giffen) could not tell—last year the House of Commons did not ask for the information as to those discounts and advances. The Bank of England may say, “We made a return as far as the House of Commons wanted, although not a complete return of the discount and advances: it has not asked for them.” Mr. Seyd conveyed the idea that the Bank of England had refused to obey the order of the House of Commons ; but this was not the fact. The other point he wished to remark upon was Mr. Seyd’s comparison of banking in this country -with that of foreign countries. He had represented quite truly that the amount of wealth in the respective countries was not to be measured by the extent of bank¬ ing. So far, there was a much larger amount of money in pro¬ portion in the hands of banks in this country than there was in foreign countries ; but Mr. Seyd held that in foreign countries there was much more banking as compared with banking in this country than was sometimes supposed. In one part of the paper it was stated that in London there were eighteen joint stock banks, with 14 mil¬ lions of capital and thirty-six private bankers : in Paris there were twenty-one joint stock banks, with 16 millions of capital, and twenty- six large private bankers. He should like to ask Mr. Seyd whether those figures really gave any idea whatever of what banking was in London at the present moment. Did he include in these eighteen joint stock banks any of those numerous Anglo-foreign and Anglo- colonial banks ? There were between twenty and thirty such, many of them having large deposits and doing a large business. In a comparison between England and France and other countries, that T on Mr. Seyd’s Paper. wonderful growth of provincial banking which obtained in this country, and to which there was nothing similar in continental countries, ought to be taken into account. The other curious point was, that there were no statistics in the paper as to the banks in the United States. Although there might not be in tho States a State bank, there were certainly national banks, as to which a great deal of information was obtainable from the comptroller of the currency. The national banks in New York, according to tho American bank¬ ing law, were in a special position, and the aggregate of them might be treated specially for this purpose. He thought that Mr. Seyd would have added very much to the value of his diagrams if he had given some information as to these American banks. Ho had only to add the expression of his admiration as to the manner in which Mr. Seyd had given his information. Mr. Seyd, in reply to the several questions, stated that the diagrams exhibited the various amounts of deposits on which the banks either paid interest or not. The greater part of the deposits of the Reichsbank are balances free of interest. The Austrian bank has but few deposits, the mortgage letters issued, on which interest 'is paid, take their place. The Bank of Russia does not state what portion of the accounts to its debit carry interest. As to the profits of these banks, they were, generally, larger than ours. In 1856 and 1857 the Bank of France paid a dividend of 27 per cent. It was the most independent of all banks, and paid a tax on the issue of notes, but the State does not otherwise share in the profits. On the note issue there is now a loss. The Reichsbank first pays a fixed rate of 4^ per cent, to the shareholders, then after adding 20 per cent, of the balance to reserve fund, the rest is divided between shareholders and the State. In the United States there was no central bank, and although some kind of statement might have been made from taking all the banks together, yet nothing like unity of action, so important in the question of valuation, could be demonstrated therefrom. The American treasury had its own sphere of action apart from the banks. To give the example of a single State bank, whose issue was nnder the Federal law, could serve no purpose. As regards the refusal of the Bank of England to give the amount of bills discounted, Mr. Giffen was right in saying that the return had not been asked for by Parlia¬ ment, but the matter amounted to almost the same thing. The member of Parliament who last moved for the returns, was told by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that the bank would refuse to give these items in future, and that he could not compel it to do so, unless by bringing the matter specially before the House. What¬ ever construction might be put upon this, it remained a singular fact that the bank should act in this way. As regards the main question here under consideration, viz., the Bank of England’s issue under the Act of 1844 , and that which he had laid before them, the only strong opponent seemed to be Mr. New march. Mr. Newmarch did not seem to follow his meaning, but if he (Mr. Seyd) had had the opportunity of reading the rest of his paper, he would have explained many matters which must now remain in abeyance 52 Discussion on Mr. Seyd’s Paper. rntil the paper had been fully read, and several of the points alluded to would have been made clear. He trusted that those present would not be influenced by the mere sayings, complimentary or otherwise, uttered by Mr. Newmarch: phrases such as “ finding a mare’s nest,” and “ going on a wild goose chase,” prove nothing, and are not statistical; figures must be used. Mr. Hewmarch had endeavoured to back such phrases by going into figures, and as they had heard, and as he (Mr. Seyd) had anticipated, Mr. Hewmarch had got himself into a muddle. The gentleman opposite, Mr. Doxey, whom he had not the pleasure of knowing previously, seemed to have fully understood the case, and had practically rebuked Mr. Hewmarch for him. In reference to the quotation from the paper made by the latter gentleman, as to the distinction between a reserve of notes, and a reserve of issue, which many seemed to have misun¬ derstood, he (Mr. Seyd) maintained that the great evil from which the banking interest suffered, was the great variation in the rates of interest caused by the difficulty which the bank had in retaining a sufficient or more regular level of bullion in the issue, and that this was chiefly owing to the unduly low rates of interest and the general uncertain effect of the totally useless and mischievous surplus of notes, falsely called “reserve,” which drove bullion away. Mr. Newmarch had stated that the whole of the Act of 1844 had been considered over and over again in Sir Robert Peel’s time, and since. Ho doubt it had ; but in all the discussions at the time and after, there did not appear, beyond that which he (Mr. Seyd) had referred to, any allusion whatever to that part of Clause 2 referring to the diminution of the issue when occasion arises. That Sir Robert Peel himself was not very clear in his mind on this point, had already been stated, and he was obviously misled by the suppo¬ sition that the circulation of notes on securities would not depart greatly from an average of 11 millions. Mr. Newmarch was not entitled to say that the subject had been fully discussed, and as the reports were available, he ought to have furnished evidence to that effect. However, we had to deal with the law as it stood, and whether it was Sir Robert Peel’s doubt which originated the words in question, there they stood in Clause 2 , as evidence at all events of his instinctive wisdom. They bear no other construction than that here put upon them, and he (Mr. Seyd) earnestly requested the full reading of his paper so as to bring this point out and its effects more clearly. In conclusion, Mr. Seyd again urged the full reading of his paper and the consideration of the diagrams upon those present. The point was a subtle one, but the whole problem appeared to depend upon some such subtlety. 53 ADDITIONAL REMARKS BY MR. SEYD. In the foregoing account of the discussion, the speech made by Mr. Newmarch appears in a small and insufficient paragraph for the following reason :—It is the custom of the Statistical Society to forward the shorthand writer’s notes to each speaker for the correction of his speech to be printed in the Journal. It would seem that Mr. Newmarch has elected not to have his speech reported at length as he uttered it, and it is likely therefore that the reader may not understand the full raison d'etre of tin remarks made by Mr. Doxsey and by myself in answer thereto. Mr. Newmarcli began paying compliments to the diagrams and paper, and then declared that the proposal contained therein involved the finding of a “mare’s nest ” and a “ wild goose chase.” This style of argument is very much in vogue among London economists—of its statistical value I need not say anything. It might be admitted as legitimate, if the speaker in the course of his speech proved by distinct figures and arguments that the author is in the wrong. Mr. Newmarch endeavoured to do this by putting the problematical case of a withdrawal of £3^ millions of deposits, with the object of showing that under the plan suggested by me, there would be no reserve available for such a purpose. Preparing for this result with all the partly jocose by-play with which a facile speaker and highly respected authority can ornament his words, he developed the case of the withdrawal of the £3^ millions, but, arriving at the final point, stopped short rather suddenly. In other words, Mr. Newmarch got into what I subsequently called a “muddle.” He probably saw that the very point he wanted to make was my point, namely, that by the transfer of £3! millions of securities from the Banking to the Issue, out of the £15 millions allowed, the case would be fully met, and that it was applicable to withdrawals of deposits, of notes, or of bullion, or any case that could possibly arise. The criticism which Mr. Newmarch thus passed upon the paper submitted, would seem all the more extraordinary, because in principle, as well as in practical effect, the course recommended by Mr. Newmarch himself does not greatly differ from my sug¬ gestion. Mr. New march endeavoured to show that under my plan there would be no reserve of notes, and in putting his proposal as to the sudden withdrawal of £3! millions of deposits or notes, he put precisely the same case that would occur under his own sug¬ gestion. Mr. Newmarch recommends that the old form of account 54 Additional Remarks by Mr. Seyd. should be readopted, the two divisions of issue department and banking department being joined into one. The present method of account being for example ( 1 st September, 1875 ) :— Notes issued Issue Department. £ Government securities .... Other „ Bullion .. 43,000,000 £ 11,015,100 3,984,900 28,000,000 43,000,000 Banking Department. Capital. Best . Public deposits . Private „ Seven days’ bills. 47,700,000 £ Government securities .... 13,600,000 Other 18,400,000 Notes in reserve. 15,000,000 Coin . 700,000 47,700,000 £ ...14,533,000 ... 3,467,000 ... 4,000,00c ...25,300,000 400,000 Here there would be the “ Notes in Reserve,” but if Mr. New- march’s method of reuniting these accounts into one be adopted, the above would stand as follows :— Liabilities. £ Notes in circulation . 28,000,000 Capital . 14,533,000 Best . 3,467,000 Public deposits . 4,000,000 Other „ 25,300,000 Seven days’ bills. 400,000 75,700,000 Assets. £ Bullion . 28,000,000 Government securities .... 24,615,000 Other „ .... 22,384,900 Coin . 700,000 75,700,000 There would then be no “ Notes in Reserve,” but the bank would have the right of issuing 15 millions of notes on Government and other securities, or as much of them as might be required, keeping the balance unissued of the 15 millions altogether apart from the accounts, precisely as it is in the form I recommend, and whether deposits are withdrawn, or notes required, or bullion asked for, either and all could be done within the limit of the 15 millions at any moment. My proposal only differs from Mr. Newmarch in so far as it continues to separate the items of notes issued and the bullion from the banking, as follows:— Additional Remarks by Mr. Seyd. Issue Department. £ Notes circulating . 28,000,000 Bullion . 28,000,000 Government securities .... — Banking Department. £ Capital. 14,533,000 Rest . 3,467,000 Public deposits . 4,000,000 Other .. f.... 25,300,000 Seven days’ bills. 400,000 47,700,000 £ Government securities .... 24,61 5,000 Other „ .... 22,384,900 Coin . . 700,000 47,700,000 the issue right of the 15 millions being held apart just as in the case of the joined account, and available in the same way. When the circulation is fully covered by bullion, as in the above case, there would be no Government securities in the issue, but as with¬ drawals of deposits or bullion, or increase in circulation take place, so would Government securities enter the issue department from the banking, and return when no longer required there. Whilst thus alike in principle and effect, I hold that my proposal has the advantage of corresponding exactly to the terms and inten¬ tions of Sir Robert Peel’s Act, and would require no alteration whatever in the essential parts (Clause 2 and others), but Mr. New- march’s proposal would necessitate the remodelling of all these clauses. The separation of the issue from the banking department, deprived of its present mystic, illogical and injurious character, is nevertheless a perfectly feasible and reasonable thing, as I have endeavoured to illustrate by the diagrams submitted, as applicable in all cases. And when this more truthful form as to actual circulation and actual assets is adopted, the right of issue of 15 millions being held apart, subject to “ increase and diminution,” as Clause 2 of the Act directs, it will be distinctly recognised that Sir Robert Peel had a wise intention in making this separation. On page 32 I said, “ You are also aware that a great deal of discussion prevails on this “ separation of accounts. The one party says that this separation “ is complete, that the issue is the ‘ public,’ and the banking the “ ‘private’ department, and certain axioms are formed on the “ notion that the one has nothing to do with the other. Sir Robert “ Peel himself did not say this, although he provided for the “ separation of the accounts. Other people say that the separation “ is a mere matter of fancy, and that the two accounts might be 56 Additional Remarks by Mr. Seyd. “ merged into one. I agree with the latter, and as I have shown in “ diagrams, the foreign banks (excepting that of Russia) follow “ this plan. Nevertheless, I say that the separation of accounts “ between issue and banking may well be maintained, if Clause 2 “ of the Act is carried out as here suggested, for it would then “ always show the exact state of the issue, namely, the notes “ actually in circulation against bullion, and the requisite amount “ of securities for the di ff erence between circulation and bullion. “ Any discussion then as to this separation is superfluous.” I quote this paragraph of my paper to show how I was prepared to meet Mr. Newmarch’s remarks on the point. It is gratifying to find that Mr. Newmarch himself recognises that the practical evil in the case of the Bank of England lies in the form of account. There are people who will insist upon saying that a mere form of account cannot have such an effect, but Mr. Newmarch seems to be fully aware that in this case the form of account involves the unhappy principle of action under which our money market experiences so many anomalies. In the paper submitted I have fully entered into all this, and the rates of interest involved; and I trust that there are among us men of calm and logical judgment, who will assist in settling this most vexed question. I leave it to them to perceive how close the remedy lies at hand, in accord with all the principles admitted and the practical situation. The true interpretration of Clause 2 of the Act is the missing link in this problem. The amendment of Clause 8 is a subsidiary matter. Gentlemen of such high standing as economists might give more consideration to what I have pointed out here, and in respect¬ fully inviting Mr. Newmarch to do this, I am satisfied that he would ultimately speak more kindly of this paper. For, with the excep¬ tion of the difference as to the simple separation of Issue from Banking, my point verifies the same principle and the same practice for which Mr. Newmarch has contended. Diagrams n? 1 BY .£55 BANK OF ENGLAND exchequer ralances] PUBLIC DEPOSITS! SKETCH SHOWING THE METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE DIAGRAMS ON THE BANK OF ENGLAND MODEL UTILITIES ASSETS LIABILITIES ASSETS] OTHER DEPOSITS! BANKERS BALANCES. 7 DAYS BILLS! REST 4 CAPITAL -j TOTAL ISSUE CIRCULATION OF BAN KM N C DEPAFi ISIS jsiL TMENT DEPAFj TMENT IJE i L-~i BANK OF FRANCE LIABILITIES ASSETS TEMP. ADVANCES . OTHER SECURITIES ^GOVERNMENT GERMAN £ REICHSBANK LIABILITIES ASSETS T836- SECURITIES COIN NOTES {(in reserve) LINE S iPARATINC BANKING FROM Cl .GOVERNED Iujons OTHER SECURITIES Bullion The items in larger type are taken from the j weekly accounts of the Bank of England, those in smaller type (Exchequer and Bankers’ Balances, Bills Discounted, and Temporaijy Advances) are found in Extra Parliamentary Returns. The diagrams show the variations week by week, and may be read from the bottom upwards; but for the purposes here in view, the order of thel weekly accounts has been slightly altered. The strong black and red line separates the Issue from the Banking matters; in the above sketch, however, the Issue department shows above this line. In the actual diagram this is not repeated : the liability of the Issue over and above the amount of notes in circulation being an asset in the Banking department, as notes in reserve, the diagrams are made to show the actual liability of the Issue on circulation (in grey), and the reserve of notes (in white). The extent of the Issue department above the line of separa¬ tion is indicated thereby. The Bank of England is allowed to issue notes on bullion, and on £15 millions of securities (originally £14 millicns). The terms of Clause 2 are :— “And be it enacted, that upon the 31st of August, 18441 there shall be transferred, appropriated, and set apart to the issue departsdL*, securities to the value of 14 millions, whereof the debt due by the public to the Bank shall be deemed a part; and there shall also be transferred to the issue department so much of the gold coin and gold and silver bullion then held by the Bank of England as shall not be required by the banking department; and thereupon there shall be delivered out of the issue department into the banking department such an amount of Bank of England notes, as, together with the Bank of England notes then in circulation, shall be equal to the aggregate amount of the securities, coin, and bullion, so transferred to the said issue department of the Bank of England; and the whole amount of Bank of England notes then in circulation, including those delivered to the banking department as aforesaid, shall be deemed to be issued on the credit of such securities , and coin and bullion so appropriated to the issue depart¬ ment ; and from thenceforth it shall not be lawful to increase the amount of securities for the time being in the issue department, save as hereinafter is mentioned; but it shall be lawful for the Baid governor and company, to diminish the amount of such securities, and again to increase the same to any sum not exceeding on the whole the sum of 14 millions, and so from time to time as they shall see occasion,” &c. According to this Clause, the Bank of England may not only issue £15 millions of notes on securities, but may diminish the issue when occasion requires it. Contrary to this distinct authority so to diminish the Issue when expedient, the Bank at once issues the whole amount, whether required or not. It is contended in the Lecture coimected with these diagrams that this practice is at the root of the fatality to which the Bank of England is subject (See the Lecture referred to). Ernest Seyd, F.S.S. 1878. The Foreign Banks render their accounts with more detail than heads with which we are familiar for the Bank of England, for e shows at a glance the respective extent of Banking matters above, a like the Bank of England (excepting, nominally the Bank of Rus England accounts shows how all the accounts can thus be assi The Bank of France does not create a Reserve of Notes. The law gives it power to issue 3,200 million francs, but of this allowance it only uses as much as is absolutely re¬ quired to fill the gap between the level of bullion and the actual cir¬ culation. As securities for such issue above bullion, there is a suffi¬ ciency of Government Stock, besides all the rest of the assets, No express Reserve of Notes, in its accidental surplus, weighs down the market in an irregular manner, or is complicated with the accounts, as in the Bank of England. Instead of this there is an unused Reserve of Issue right, available when required, but neutral in the meantime, as indicated at the bottom of the diagram. 125 MILLIONS NATIONAL BANK OF AUSTRIA LIABILITIES ASSETS IN POUNDS STERLINCj _—^ j£20 - IB 76 MILLIONS 15 10 MILLION!,, KATES % 4 %: 10 15 20 25 30 35 MORTGAGE LETTERS -RESERVE - NOTES IN CIRCULATION A DISCOUNTED MORTCACE LOANS BILLS SECURITIES A V BULLION :R 1 ISSUE OF STATE NOTES ( approximate) MILLIONS v ' -£31 o£o The Reichsbank, on a principle similar to Sir Robert Peel’s Act, has an original allowance of Issue of Notes, not covered by bullion, of £12^ millions. But unlike the Bank of England, which makes its issue of £15 milli ons at once, and there¬ by creates the ruinous Reserve of Notes, the Reichsbank only issues as much of this allowance as is wanted, keeping the balance as Reserve of Issue, like the Bank of France, and apart from its accounts. Beyond this free Reserve (as indicated in the above diagram), of which it makes use, it may issue more notes (if absolutely required), paying* a tax of 5 % per annum on such over-issue—the final limit of which is on a minimum of one-third of bullion. il5 miluor 10 i’O 40 The National Bank of Austbia may issue 200 million florins of notes, but like the Banks of France and the Reichsbank, retains a Reserve of Issue apart from the accounts. It will be seen that the Bank maintains a fair percentage of bullion, and its notes would no doubt be at par, but for the Issue which the Austrian Government makes on its own account, apart from the Bank. This Government Issue is capricious, and not covered by bullion. A change in the constitution of the Bank, to suit the demands of Hungary, is impending, but the affair is not yet concluded. & d] of L tb tk wj th as of S r to hit Re BY ERNEST Seyd, F.S.S. 1878 . " reign Banks render their accounts with more detail than the Bank of England, but for our better understanding they have here been consolidated under the which we are familiar for the Bank of England, for easier comparison. The strong line of black and red running through the diagrams at the same level, glance the respective extent of Banking matters above, and the state of the Issues below it. The foreign Banks do not expressly separate Issue from Banking, knk of England (excepting, nominally the Bank of Russia); nevertheless this can be done, and the explanation of the method of constructing the Bank of shows how all the accounts can thus be assimilated. The accounts have been converted at the metallic pars of Exchange, although in Austria and Italy notes are at a discount. The National Bank of the former holds about 50 per cent, of bullion, and the Italian Exchange is improving. The Russian Bank seems to follow the Exchange in its accounts, and has been so converted at the variations. iccounts DISCOUNTED RAMS N? 1 STATE BANK OF RUSSIA LIABILITIES ASSETS -BILLS - wy BULLION IN POUNDS STERLINI £‘20 MILLIONS NATIONAL BANK OF AUSTRIA LIABILITIES ASSETS - ^ SERVE NIMUM RCENT Cl ARY OF BANKS 10TES 15 LETTERS HjEftSsiTS&cf £o MILLION!, hates ; 10 15 *20 25 50 35 MORTGAGE RETSTRYET" CAPITAL LN CIRCULATION M MORTCACE DISCOUNTED LOANS BILLS SECURITIES £ BUCOUTT NATIONAL BANKOFITALY LIABILITIES ASSETS _ 1876 _ The extent of the Issues not covered by bullion by other Banks in England, Germany, Austria and Italy, are indicated ; in France, Holland, Belgium and Russia no other Issues are allowed* £o 10 15 20 30 35 4-0 ISSUE OF STATE NOTES ( approximate) -£31 £o RAT £ S % 4~ NOTES “TTT~ ~ -CIRCULATION .RESERVE )f : RIAIE1NLLUNKNQIES (B1GL1ETT1 DISCOUN STATAHOn 7 ^ -BILLS GOVERNMENT SECURITIES jj F. ISSUE. . CIINSORZIAU). NETHERLANDS BANK LIABILITIES ASSETS 3|ST MARCH 1876 h NATIONAL BANKOF BELGIUM LIABILITIES ASSETS 1876 FIDUCIARY ISSUE ALLOWANCE OF OTHER BANKS (B1GUETTI CONSORZIALl) £25 MILLIONS The Netherlands Bank is bound to keep a minimum of 40 per cent, on all its liabilities of Banking and Note circulation. According to law, the King determines this proportion. The measure is a very cautious one, the Banking liabilities might as well be left to their own assets. The Reserve of Issue, consequently, ap¬ pears smaller than it would be on the circulation of notes alone. It is kept strictly apart from the accounts. I NIMUM 33## BULLION* FURTHER ISSUE AT THE DISCRETION OF FINANCE MINISTER The National Bank of Belgium ought to keep a minimum stock of bullion equal to one-third of the notes in circulation. It has, however, ex¬ ceeded this proportion, and trenched beyond the Reserve of Issue thus 4-0 available. It appears that the Finance Minister has power to allow this, for, besides the small stock of bullion, the Bank holds foreign bills (chiefly English), looked upon as 50 good as bullion, to the amount of several millions. £21 £o in a principle rt Peel’s Act, ice of Issue of by bullion, of mlike the Bank lakes its issue ice, and there- us Reserve of ik only issues owance as is balance as the Bank of n its accounts. 3 Reserve (as ive diagram), it may issue :ely required), per annum on final limit of n of one-third The National Bank of Austria may issue 200 million florins of notes, but like the Banks of France and the Reichsbank, retains a Reserve of Issue apart from the accounts. It will be seen that the Bank maintains a fair percentage of bullion, and its notes would no doubt be at par, but for the Issue which the Austrian Government makes on its own account, apart from the Bank. This Government Issue is capricious, and not covered by bullion. A change in the constitution of the Bank, to suit the demands of Hungary, -is impending, but the affair is not yet concluded. The National Bank of Italy is a comparatively young institution, there being several stronger and older Banks which had issue rights. An arrangement has now been effected, by which the Bank, to¬ gether with the other Issuers, with¬ draw their notes, and with the State “ consort ” together for a total Issue of 1,500 millions of notes, of which 1,000 millions fall to the share of the National Bank. It will be seen that the Bank thus has a large Issue in Reserve, whicli it treats in the same way as the Bank of France. Among the assets in the Issue are counted some of the old State Notes now in pro¬ gress of withdrawal. It is gratifying to find that so moderate a use has hitherto been made of the large Reserve of Issue. THE OBJECTS OF THESE DIAGRAMS in connection with the Paper read before the Statistical Society (March Journal, 1878) are : Firstly, to show the relative extent of the affairs of each Bank, and the respective Issue systems. Secondly, to illustrate the logical and practical error involved in the present practice of the Bank of England system, under which the Issue of Notes on <£15 millions of Securities is made a permanent instead of a variable one; i.e., subject to DIMINUTION and INCREASE WITHIN THE LIMIT, as Clause 2 directs. In the paper belonging to these Diagrams the matter is fuHy explained. Diagrams No. 2. compare the Banks of England and France for several years, and show some of the anomalies whieh the present practice creates. 55 60 65 70 75 80 30 35 £ MILLIONS loo IN CIRCULATION BULLION The Bank of Russia is a State Bank in the full sense of the word, entirely managed and controlled by the Government. The accounts are not clear, the Issue is at the option of the State, and the proportion of bullion small. MACLURE & MACDONALD. LITH?* TO THE QUEEN. LONDON. ILLUSTRATION OF ACTION 1) I AG RAMS N? 2 BY Ernest Seyd, F. S.S. L878. 1868 BANK OF ENGLAND ACCOUNTS ASSETS (LIABILITIES INDICATED) The Diagram here subjoined illustrates the action of the Bank of England under the present interpretation of Clause 2 of the Act of Sir Robert Peel, with its effects on the state of Bullion, reserve of Notes, over investment in paid Government and other securities, and the small amount of Bills and advances, in the varying stages of the level of Bullion, as marked on the loft side, number 1 to 7, and on the right hand, number 8 to 14, the altered state of matters, the more regular state of Bullion, the reserve of Issue, intact as apart from the accounts, with the improved state of Assets generally. . The Lecture affords more detailed information on this diagram. In these Diagrams the Assets of the Two Banks are of chief interest, and are indicated by colours. The Liabilities are indicated only by the red lines, such as Capital and Rest and Total Deposits at tho top, and line of circulation at the bottom. NOTE ON THIS DIAGRAM. The comparison l)etween these accounts shows the power of the Bank of France, how in 1871-1873, when France had to pay £200 millions to Germany, the Bank was enabled to issue no less than from £70 to £00 millions of bank notes not covered by bullion, and how it has since steadily diminished such issue! unfil a higher level of bullion than previously has been obtained, at reasonable rates of interest. But this is not the mam question, in case of such extreme need we might, here in England, do a similar thing by special legislation. The limitlof £15 million- of issue on securities of the Bank of England is sufficient for all ordinary purposes, provided that this were used only when wanted, or as much of it as is currently required. Singular as it may appear to those who believe in a reserve of notes (in its sufficiency or non-sufficiency), it is this form of reserve which causes the fluctuations in low and high interest, the irregularity in the level of bullion, and its comparatively small stock as com¬ pared with the Bank of Franee. The Bank of France is altogether a larger institution than the Bank of England. It has made great progress, whereas the Bank of England has scarcely risen above the extent it had in 1847. It will also be seen that the Bank of France does a much larger General Banking and Discount Business. The Bank of England invests not only £15 millions in the Issue, and £14 to £15 millions in the Banking in Government Securities, but of the Other securities, the Bills discounted and advances only amount to as much as indicated by the space colored and margined in violet; the rest of the Other secu¬ rities are various Stocks (Colonial, Railways, &e.) purchased by the Bank, so that there is a total of from £38 to £40 millions of such purchased securities, and only a few millions of Bills and Advances. It is alleged that all this is due to scarcity of bills, or to more competition than what exists in France and elsewhere, but the number and resources of joint stock banks in Paris is proportionately larger than in London, and private bankers much more numerous; so that the competition, if anything, is sharper than here. The present system of issue is the cause of this anomalous position of the Bank of England (anomalous in spite of its dividend). The delicacy and nervousness of our money market, its many seemingly inexplicable mysteries, the cry for more reserve in some indefinite form or other, are all due to the illogical proceeding adopted, by which the £15 millions of Issue on securities are at once converted into a surplus of legal tender notes, w hich are useless for the pur¬ poses of circulation, and have no other effect than to drive bullion away from the Bank before its time, to be recovered again at higher rates. As indicated in the diagrams, No. 1, and in the lecture referred to, this is not the fault of o < < o z UJ CO UJ cc CL Cd UJ O o the Act, for Clause 2 distinctly states that the Issue should be treated as is here sug¬ gested, viz., be subject to diminution and increase within the limit; it is due to a mis-interpretation or want of understanding existing as regards this part of the letter, as well as the true spirit of Sir Robert Peel’s law ; and if the Issue were carried on in accordance therewith, the rates of interest would not fluctuate so much, bullion would be retained more easily, and both the stock of bullion and the circulation of the note would increase. Our market would be less nervous, and many of the present misconceptions would disappear for want of cause. At the same time, the Bank would regain its liberty in being able to invest more in bills and less in Government secu¬ rities, as it ought to do, to its better profit, and increase its business to the benefit of all. MACLURE & MACDONALD. LITH R ? TO THE QUEEN. LONDON Diagrams n? 2 BY Ernest Seyd, F. S.S. 1878 . 5 station of 3tment in ;es of tho jd state of improved In these Diagrams tho Assets of the Two Banks are of chief interest, and are indicated by colours. The Liabilities are indicated only by the red lines, such as Capital and Rest and Total Deposits at the top, and line of circulation at the bottom. NOTE ON THIS DIAGRAM. The comparison between these accounts shows the power of the Bank of France, how in 1871—1873, when France had to pay £200 millions to Germany, the Bank was enabled to issue no less than from £70 to £00 millions of bank notes not covered by bulHon, and how it has since steadily diminished such issue unril a higher level of bullion than previously has been obtained, at reasonable rates of interest. But this is not the m^in question, in case of such extreme need we might, here iii Englaw, do a similar thing by special legislation. The limit of £15 million., of issue on securities of the Bank of England is sufficient for all ordinary purposes, provided that this wei|e used only when wanted, or as much of it as is currently required. Singular as it may appear to those who believe in a reserve of notes (in its sufficiency or non-sufficiency), it is (this form of reserve which causes the fluctuations in low and high interest, the irregularity in the level of bullion, and its comparatively small stock as com¬ pared with the Bank of Franee. The Bank of France is altogether a larger institution than the Bank of England. It has made great progress, whereas the Bank of England has scarcely risen above the extent it had in 1847. It will also be seen that the Bank of France does a much larger General Banking and Discount Business. The Bank of England invests not only £15 millions in the Issue, and £14 to £15 millions in the Banking in Government Securities, but of the Other securities, the Bills discounted and advances only amount to as much as indicated by the space colored and margined in violet; the rest of the Other secu¬ rities are various Stocks (Colonial, Railways, &c.) purchased by the Bank, so that there is a total of from £38 to £40 millions of such purchased securities, and only a few. millions of Bills and Advances. It is alleged that all this is due to scarcity of bills, or to more competition than what exists in France and elsewhere, but the number and resources of joint stock banks in Paris is proportionately larger than in London, and private bankers much more numerous; so that the competition, if anything, is sharper than here. The present system of issue is the cause of this anomalous position of the Bank of England (anomalous in spite of its dividend). The delicacy and nervousness of our money market, its many seemingly inexplicable mysteries, the cry for more reserve in some indefinite form or other, are all due to the illogical proceeding adopted, by which the £15 millions of Issue on securities are at once converted into a surplus of legal tender notes, which are useless for the pur¬ poses of circulation, and have no other effect than to drive bullion away from the Bank before its time, to be recovered again at higher rates. As indicated in the diagrams, No. 1, and in the lecture referred to, this is not the fault of the Act, for Clause 2 distinctly states that the Issue should be treated as is here sug¬ gested, viz., be subject to diminution and increase within the limit; it is due to a mis-interpretation or want of understanding existing as regards this part of the letter, as well as the true spirit of Sir Robert Peel’s law; and if the Issue were carried on in accordance therewith, the rates of interest would not fluctuate so much, bullion would be retained more easily, and both the stock of bullion and the circulation of the note would increase. Our market would be less nervous, and many of the present misconceptions would disappear for want of cause. At the same time, the Bank would regain its liberty in being able to invest more in bills and less in Government secu¬ rities, as it ought to do, to its better profit, and increase its business to the benefit of all. MACLURE 8 . MACDONALD. LITH"? TO THE QUEEN. LONDON MILLIONS i