A STATEMENT OP THE FRAUDS ON THE ELECTIVE FRANCHISE IN THE (Eitg of ^tm ^ork, In the FaU of the Year 1838 and Spring of 183 OS BY JAMES B. GLEKT WORTH. Avery Architectural and Fine Arts Library Gift of Seymour B. Durst Old York Library i£x Htbrts SEYMOUR DURST When you leave, please leave this hook Because it has been said "Ever thing comes t' him who waits Eyccept a loaned book." rKntcred accordinp to act of Congress, in the yoi^r l-sii, I-} ( ii ul- rroctor. in Ihc »mcv of the Southern I'iRlrict of New York.] ADDRESS TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES. Fellow Citizepj-s — The object of my addressing you at this time, is not for the purpose of justifying myself for the participation which I have had in the frauds on the elective franchise, in the State of New York, in the years 1838 and 1839, which produced so much excitement after their disclosure, and which were so widely, justly, and severely commented upon in the public prints, not only in this country, but in England. That I did participate in these transac- tions, I admit, and can only, so far as I am concerned, frankly acknowledge my error. The evil is done, and I sincerely regret that I ever, in any way, allowed myself to participate with others in a transaction for which I have been com- jpelled by circumstances to be the only sufferer. In justice to my country — in '^■^stice to my tamily — in justice to my friends — in justice to myself — I am de- t^termined now, be the effect on myself what it may, to present to the public a ^•ftill, candid, true and impartial account of those frauds, in which I shall " Nothing exteimate, Nor set down aught m malice." :n I-am well aware that duty required me to adopt this course long since, but, through force of circum stances, my hands havebeen tied and my lips closed; and Tlwhile my name has been branded from one extent of the country to the other, I -have been compelled to be silent, and tamely bear the whole odium attached to those transactions. I was in the powerof men equally guilty with myself, and "both threats and promises were resorted to to obtain the " mercy of my silence." ~ An indictment was pending over me for participating in these frauds, and until that was removed, my personal liberty requiredme to keep secret that which justice demanded should be known. That necessity is now removed. I am re- leased from that indictment, (itliaving been discharged on the 22d ultimo,) and the truth shall now be laid before the people, and the guiity, be compelled to bear their just proportion of that, which heretofore, I have singly and alone, been forced to sustain. No one but myself knows what I have suffered. — I have, since the first disclo- sures were made, seenfriend after friend desert me, and out of all that numerous host with which I was on terms of intimacy, but few remain that call tliem- selves my friends. Considerations of honor (whether true or false) towards my confederates influenced my conduct at the time of my arrest, and a long time sub- sequent thereto. Because I was involved in trouble, I did not wish to involve them. To me, that would have been no gratification or relief. I presumed they felt, as I did, deep regret for their unlawful acts, and that they would, at least so far as in their power, relieve me from my difficulty. I expected them to act honorably towards me; and it was notuntill discovered, upon several occa- sions, an evident design (notwithstanding repeated assurances to (he contrary) to sacrifice and destroy me, to load mewith ignominy, and whistle me down the world, a prey to lortune," that I^understood the true position in which I ADDRESS. was plaeed. They appeared to consider it necessary to so far ruin tny reputation (hat aught I could say in relation to them would be of no avail. They acted as if they considered their safety dependant on tlieir success in affixing infamy and odium upon my character. How far they havesucceeded depends upon a verdict of the people. They will pass upon it after they shall have perused the statement and the evidences I shall lay before them. Sensible of liaving committed a great moral wrpng, I can only now appeal to a forgiving and gene- rous people ; and if they can find any extenuation, in consequence of my ardent temperament, which, in the enthusiasm of party excitement and party stratagy, led me into excesses, my object, so far as regards myself, will be accomplished. With politics I have done — I have no hopes or expectations from party. The disclosures I shall make will be made free from any bias, and on mature deli- beration, after having carefully collected the facts and memoranda upon which to base it. I know that fearful odds are against me — I am almost friendless and alone. Opposed to me I have wealth, character, influence, public andpri- yate station and trust. Fearful odds ! But, believing in the maxim, that ** truth is mighty, and will prevail," I enter the lists.considering that it is never too late to redress a wrong, or do a good and justifiable action. Independent of any evidence, let us apply the ordinary rules of logic to the transactions in|relation to these frairds, and see whether they are for or against jthe truth of my statement. If the statement which I made to Mr. J. D. Steven- son in relation to these frauds was not true, (and it has always been denied by the leaders of the whig party,) why was I removed from office ? It was admit* ted that I had faithfully and ably performed the duties of the station I held, and if the charges against me were false, then I was a persecuted man ; and as they admitted I was competent, and had rendered essential services to the party, was it not their duty to sustain me ? I had their ivritten acknowledgment of my services, not in measured terms, but in terms of unqualified approbation. Let us look also at the other side of the question. If the charges were true, and known to Governo'- Seward and the prominent leaders of the whig party, (which I solemnly aver they did know,) were they not bound to sustain me, in- stead of attempting to degrade me, and leaving me to contend against the other party un aided(except secretly) and alone ? It is well known that the whig leaders would neither openly carry me through my difficulties, nor permit the whig party to rally around me. If I alone was guilty — if they had no partici- pation in the frauds— if they were ignorant of the transactions — if I accused and charged upon the innocent a gross violation of the laws of the land — then I deeply injured them, i merited their severest censure. Why, then, did they secretly aid and assist me, but publicly calumniate me Such was the course they pur- sued, until they supposed their public slanders had sofar blasted my reputa- tion that their victim could be sacrificed without danger to themselres. Unless I was guilty of the charges against me, there was no reason why I should not have received the confidence and support of the whig party. Du- ring a period of nine years, I labored like a slave, as thousands can attest, in the organization of that party ; and after the result of the election in 1838, 1 WM I ADDRESS. solicited to accept office, and declined it. I was satisfied with the husineas in which I was then engaged ; and subsequent events have convinced me, that the most unfortunate era of my life was that in which I accepted office. It was conceded that 1 merited the office : it was conceded that the duties were ably and faithfully discharged ; yet I was removed from it before the expiration of the term for which I had been appointed. Was therenot some cause why I was removed? What was that cause ? If I was guilty of the frauds charged upon me, was I alone guilty ? were they known only to me ? If innocent, why re- move me from office, and thus add the persecution of my own party to that of my political opponents These arequestions whichjl wish the public to solve. If those charged as participators in the election frauds were innocent, why did they not court investigation, nay, demand it ? Their innocence, sealed by a ver- dict of a jury of their country, would have made for them party capital, because they would have been looked upon as persecuted men. But the guilty gene- rally reason from false premises— they shunned investigation — they created a disastrous issue for themselves. Instead of endeavoring to screen me, their efforts were directed to removing all suspicion from themselves. Had they rea- soned correctly, they would have seen, that had I been convicted of the charge, the public would have known that I could not, unaided, have perpetrated such stupendous frauds. Some saw the question in its true light — some felt the danger of their situations ; and it was probably in consquence thereof, that I was indebted for the friendly visits and letters of some of the members of the Grand Jury, who were impannelled during the term that the first attempt was made to indict me. Had that responsible body been tampered with ? and if so, by whom, and for what purpose ? Such high handed acts would not have been perpetrated without strong motives. One thing is certain, I did not tamper with the jury, neither was it done by my request. Did those who have been accused know of the frauds ? If so— if I alone was guilty — what motive could other* have had to assist me, in the least, during the judicial proceedings against me By my actss they had been accused — if innocent, how deeply had I wronged them ! Who retained, and so heavily feed the counsel employed to defend me, both on the examination and on my trial? Charles O'Conner and David Gra- ham, jr., Esqrs., were employed and paid by some one, not by myself. James M. Smith, jr.. Esquire, was the only counsel employed by me. My trial came on — the jury did not agree, and were discharged. — Up to this time, my con- federates — some of them, at least — deemed it essential that I should not be cod. victed. Up to this time I had been silent as totheir participation with me in the frauds for which I was justly suffering. The Grand Jury had failed to in- dict them ; my personal safety was their guarantee for my silence. The in- dictment was pending, and they knew that a word against them would furnish evidence against myself They also knew that the statute of limitations would soon protect them from any indictment for the part they acted in the frauds tor which I was indicted. That time expired the beginning of November, 1841. Three attempts were made by my counsel, James M. Smith, Jr., Esq., for my discharge, urging ai each time, either a trial or a discharge from the indict- ment; but it was deferred by the Court from term to term, until the statute ADDRESS. oj limitations would protect the persons implicated, and then my dkcharge toa^ granted/.'/ For some time after the trial, my confederatesceased to hold any communi- cation with me in relation to the election frauds. But a circumstance occur- red which again brought them to ask ol me a favor, humbled as I was. Tram- pled upon as I had been, I had still, as they knew, the power to harm I had cer- tain papers in my possession which were dangerous to them. I was in pos- session of some facts, and they feared that information might possibly leak out that would defeat the confirmation of certain nominations under the general government. Again, therefore, negociations were set on foot, and I confess openly to the public, that, convinced as I had been, by their acts, of their utter turpitude and treachery towards me, I professedly acceded to their offers, and availed myself, by stratagem, of additional evidence to fortify myself against my powerful adversaries. Their foot was on my neck — thousands to one against me ; and while thus prostrate, stratagy was my only hope of deliverance. How well my plan succeeded, the public hereafter shall know. In the expose which I feel it my duty to make, many will be mentioned whose feelings I would not willingly wound; but it is not my fault if others, less immediately connected and inculpated in these transactions, are pointed out. The act was their own; and as my statement must be a faithfvl one, I cannot pass them by. The whole transactions shall now be given to the public, with such evidence as I have to substantiate the charges. All I ask is a candid perusal ; and I appeal to all who shall read these written, and now complete documents and narratives, to mark the connected, unbroken and lucid chain of evidence they present, of locality, names, dates, persons, incidents, conversations, &c &c., to say, whether they believe it to be within the compass of possibility, that any human being, how- ever gifted in intellect, base in moral depravity, or maddened by despair, could, with the most fertile and ingenious inventive powers, have fabricated such a story, or forged such papers as are presented. , Almost all the ori pnal letters and memoranda have come into my posses- sion within a few days ; and those who deserve the censure cannot now, by any subterfuge, escape the just and merited reproach which a people, jealous of their rights, will visit upon those who attempt, by fraud, to wrest them from them. It will be seen, in the sequel, that the reproach and the ignominy which they strove to fix on mq alone, should be shared by others who hold higher stations, and have more friends, more wealtb, and more influence to sustain them, than myself; and though I am aware that their participation will not screen me from the reproach I merit for the part 1 have performed, it will, at least, teach them that neither wealth, place, influence, or perjury, are safe guarantees against the exposure of guilt. To the public I appeal, confessing and regreting my errors, and by their ver- dict I must aliidc, be it for or against me. Very respectfully, JAMES B. GLENTWORTH. New- York, December 2d, 1841. [From the w\>ttJ York Evening Post, oj December 29, 1S41 ] STATEMENT. Several days since I published a card in the daily papers, in which I promised to submit to the consideration and judgment of the public the facts connected with the election frauds in this city, in the years 1838 and 1839, and the motives which iniaenced me in making an exposition of the same. In redeeming this pledge, I repeat m.y declaration then made, that I am not actuated by any feeling of hostility ; and further, that I am not in- fluenced by any person or persons in the course which I have felt it my duty to adopt— but that I act in this matter free and unbiassed, and according to the dictates of my judgment, after having maturely weighed the subject in my own mind, and calculated all the chances both for and against the propriety of my course. I feel sensible that I have committed a great moral wrong — I know that I have been instrumental in attacking the purity of one of the dearest and most inestimable rights of freemen. . I have succeeded, hj the aid of others^ in consummating a stupendous and daring fraud, and I have suifer- ed, and justly too, for my illegal conduct; but when I look around ana see others who were as guilty as myself — men, who reaped benefit Irom their in- iquity, while I, and I only, was compelled to suiFer— men. who have been el- evated in consequence of their and my unlawful acts, and who are now court- ed, while lam passed by as unworthy to be their associate— I can but think that I am in the discharge of not only a great moral obligation, but also of a duty which I owe to myself and the public, to point out the men who were the guilty participators with me, that they may be known to the public, and also to expose 'ihe manner in which these frauds were perpetrated, in order that hereafter no such acts can be attempted without a certainty of defeat.—- But I will not take up your time with preliminary remarks, but proceed to give the statement of the frauds. Towards the close of September, or the early part of October, 1838, " a confidential committee" was raised from each of the executive committees of the Old and Young Men's General Whig Committees of the city of New York, Robert Swartv/out, Francis L. Lippett and Redwood Fisher were se- lected by the former, and James Bowen, Robert C. Wetmore and myself on the part of the latter. Mr. Swartwout was selected on the pait of the Confi- dential Committee of the Old Men, and I was selected by the Young Men's Committee, to carry into effect such confide7iiial operations as might be propo- sed and agreed upon. Mr. Swartwout and myself had several interviews in the Whig Committee room in Broad street and elsewhere, in reference to the Philadelphia operation, which was to procure persons from that city to VOTE IN THE CITY OF New York. It was agreed that we should proceed to Philadelphia, and consult some prominent members of the whig party there as to the feasibility of the contemplated project. Mr. Swartwout and myself 4 left New York, according to nppoiatment, on the 6ih day of October, 1838^ on board the steamboat Independence, for Philadelphia, by the way of South Amboy, and from thence by railroad to Philadelphia. I acted as purser, and paid our passages and other expenses. The hour for leaving New York was changed on that day to twelve o'clock, for the first lime, as I believe, for that season. This was ori Saturday. We arrived at Philadelphia at about dusk of the same day, and went to the United States Hotel. The next day, at about half past twelve o'clock, Mr. Swarlwoutand myself went to the residence of Colonel John Swift, formerly Mayor of the city of Philadelphia. There an interview was had with him, in which, however, I took no part, but left the matter entirely with Mr. Swartwout. They went into the back parlor, leav- ing me in the front with thefamil)'. After we had been at the house soma fifteen or twenty minutes, I was called into the room with them. Colonel Swift rsmarked that he would introduce some persons to me the next day, in- quiring, at the sams time, where we stayed. I am not certain whether he then named the persons whom he would introduce to me. I had been ac- quainted with him from my boyhood. Immediately after this interview, Mr. Swartwout and myself returned to the United States Hotel. Ou the way, he informed me that Colonel Swift considered the project contemplated by us as practicable, and that he had promised to send persons to me to carry it into etfect; that he would aid us in accomplishing the same. It was agreed that I should remain in Philadelphia to make the arrangements, &c. Mr. Swart- wout left that evening, at five o'clock, for New York. The next morning Colonel Swift called on me, at the.' United States Hotel, and I think it was at tkattime that he introduced to me Robert Miller, and stated that he would send James Young to see me in the course of the . day. He remained but a very short lime. I had considerable conversation with Miller; he also ^aid he would send Young to me either during that or the following day. Our conversation was upon the subject of procuring persons from Philadelphia to vote the whig ticket in the city of New York. Miller said he would ascer- tain if he could furnish a certain number of persons for the purpose, and see me again as to the com.pensation which 1 was to pay them. During that or the following day, and which I am not positive, James Young called at the United States Hotel, and inquired for me at the bar. He was at this lime ona of the high constaoles of the city of Philadelphia. I v;as sent for. When I came in, he approached me and mentioned his name. We stepped aside and had some conversation on the subject of the business before stated. Ha thought the matter practicable, and agreed to see me after ascertaining the views and expectations of the parties. I met both Young and Miller r«peat- edly at my rooms and elsewhere. During these interviews I made arrange- ments with them to furnish men to come from Philadelphia to the city of New York and rote .at the appioaching fall election. By the terms of the agreement which I entered into with said Young and Miller, I was to pay them thirty dollars for each man they furnished for the aforesaid purpose. — Lists of names of men were given me by Young and Miller, who, ihey in- formed me, would goto New York and vote on those terms. This visit to Philadelphia was only to naake the preliminary arrangements ; I did not go prepared with funds to complete them. On the 11th day of October I refiuned to the city of New York, and had an interview soon after my arrival with James Bowenand oihers, informed them of my movements at Philadelphia, and the arrangements which I could make. They expressed themselves per- fectly satisfied. After a meeting of the Whig Executive Commiiiee at the Broadway House, the subject of obtaining funds to cany the Philadelphia op- eration into effect was discussed by Bowen, myself, and others. We came to the conclusion that it was impossible to dispose of any of the monies collected for the General Committee, without a distinct appropriation of ihat committee, on the application of the Executive Committee ; and such an appropriation as we required would excite the suspicion of the members of the committee gener- ally. It was therefore proposed by Mr. Bowen that we should trust iheproposed operation to Richard M. Bktchford and Simeon Draper, Jr., as it was staled that they had the control of a certain fund, to disburse as they thought proper, and Mr, Bowen considered it best to get the funds from this source, rather than risk the matter leaking out, by asking an appropriation from the committee. Mr. Bowen also assigned as an additional reason for the propri- ety of the course suggested by him, that the Executive Committee would have to ask the appropriation, and that it could not be done without entrusting eve- ry member of that committee with ou-r plan ; besides, if we could gel three thousand dollars, or any part of this amount, from them, (Blatchford and Draper) then the General Committee could appropriate their funds to othe"* purposes, I strenuously opposed entrusting these confidential opera- tions to persons who were not members of either of the committees, but at length yielded to Mr. Bowen, and agreed to meet him, with Messrs. Blatch- ford and Draper, the next morning, at Mr. Blatchford's ofSce, and to state my views, and the plan of the contemplated operation. This was a few^ days after my return from Philadelphia, I went to Mr. Blatchford's olSice, pur- suant to the appointment, and met Messrs. Bowen, Blatchford and Draper. They appeared to be acquainted with the operation generally ; and when I spoke of the practicability ot the scheme, of the amount of votes that would thus be furn£i>hed to the party, rendering the election, as I stated to them, a matter of certainty, they agreed to furnish the funds I v/ould require to con- summate the arrangement. We talked freely upon the subject. The Execo- lire Committee consisted, according to my present recollection, of James Bowen, Chairman, Robert C. Wetmore, James H. Freeborn, Samuel R. Childs, John C. Brant, Chatterton, Heman W. Childs, EJgar S. Van Winkle, one or two others, and myself. Willis Hall, the present Attorney General of the State, was Chairman of the General Committee, and, ex-offi- cio, a member of the subordinate committees. Edgar S. Van Winkle was Chairman of the Corresponding Committee. I was the Chairman of the Fi- nance Comniittee, and, af this lime, was vary much occupied with the other members of that Committee in collecting funds for the approaching election. The Finance Committee consisted of Messrs. W. Disosway, J, K. Mulford, and Theodore Draper, Jr. I was assisted in making collections by H. L. Pierson, Robert C. Wetmore, and Henry W. Havens. On or about the 20th day of October, 1838, 1 returned to Philadelphia, to perfect my arrangements for the fall election. The evening before I left, I was engaged with the Ex- ccmive Coramittee until after 11 o'clock. During that evening, Mr. Richard 6 M. Blatchford called twice at my house to see me, but not finding me at home, as late as 11 o'clock, he sent a letter lo me. His apparent anxiety to see me, and his sending the letter at so late an hour, created some suspicion in the minds of my family, and it was opened and read by them. The letter urged upon me by no means to delay leaving in the morning, and assured me means should be provided. The object of my visit to Philadelphia was known positively to Messrs. Bowen, Blatchford, Draper and Stvartwout, and I have reason to believe it was suspected by some few other prominent members of the party. On my arrival at Philadelphia, I had repeated inter- views with Young, Miller, and others, and consummated, as far as I was en- abled to do, my arrangements. On the first day of November, at about mid- right, I received a letter by the hands of William A. Ford, of the city of New-York, who at that time was employed as clerk in the Whig Committee Iloom in Broad street, which I have no doub: was from James Bowen. I come to this conclusion from the fact, that I had agreed with Messrs. Bowen, that the fictitious name of W. Scott should be used by him in our correspondeiice, if any was necessary, and the letter brought me by Mr. Ford was so signed. Mr. Ford left New- York at five o'clock, and arrived at about midnight. I had not retired: I was waiting the arrival ©f the cars from New-York. I felt some anxiety to receive the funds, as it was within a few days of the election. The following is a copy of the letter received by the hand of William A. Ford— the original of which is now in my possession :— " Thursday Afternoon. "D'r G.— We were a good deal alarmed, this morning, to find that your vi- sit to Philadelphia was suspected here, and was talked of in the street. For your own sake, as well as ours, you must stop short where you are. The en- closed will enable you to meet your engagements, as far as you have gone ; and you had better return and show yourself here as soon as you possibly can. Yours, truly, (S:c. &c, W. SCOTT." " The bearer knows nothing." This letter enclosed, I think, $500, to pay what expsnses I had already in- • curred. My arrangements had been made; and, from the character of the men who had been engaged for the purpose of coming to the city of New- York to vote, I was satisfied that, if they did not receive the compensation stipulated, the whole matter would become public; and that, under such cir- cumstances, the safely of the party required that the arrangements I had made should be carried into effect. With this view, I determined to return imme- diately to New-York, and so staled lo Mr. Ford, at the same time requesting him to take the Camden and Amboy line, in order that we might not be seen together, as I intendul to take the other route. I started the next morning, and arrived in New- York about half-past two o'clock, and went to the com- mittee room in Broad street, and from thence to the office of Mr. Blatchford. I did not find him in. The next morning I had an interview with Messrs. Bowen, Blatchford and Draper. 1 think I saw Mr, Bowen first. He inform- ed me that he was fearful the whole matter would be discovered; that Red- wood Fisker, and some others, had been speaking of it in the street ; that 7 tKere was also a want of funds ; that sufficient conld not be procured from the source we had depended upon, when we had the interview, which 1 have heretofore named, with Messrs. Blatchford, Draper and Bowen. At the in- terview at Mr. Blatchford's office, the same reasons were advanced— a fear of discovery, and a want of funds. After considerable conversation on the subject, in which I slated the reasons which, in my op.inion, required us to go on aud complete the operation, it was finally determined between us to make an effort to raise the funds necessary for that purpose, and to meet at Mr. Draper's house that evening : I think ten o'clock was the hour appointed. It was agreed that I should call ou the persons nominated for the Assembly, by the whig party, and collect all I could from them and others. Messrs. Blatchford, Draper and Bowen agreed to use their efforts tor thesame purpose. At my solicitation, Henry W. Havens accompanied me during the after- noon and evening, in a hack, to make collections. We succeeded in collect- ing, according to my present recollection, between three and four hundred dollars. Mr. Havens remained with me until nearly nine o'clock in the evening. We called on Alderman Zabriskie, Stephen Potter, Alfred Car- hart, and others, I left Mr. Havens somewhere in the upper part of Broad- "way, and went to Mr, Bowen's house. He then resided in Broadway, a fev/ doors above Leonard street. I found him at home; and, after some conver- sation on the subject, we went together to the house of Mr. Simeon Draper, Jr., in Warren street, near Broadway. We were then informed that Mr. D. was at the house of Mr. William Samuel Johnson, which was almost direct- ly opposite. We wen! to Mr. Johnson's, and Mr. Bowen inquired for Mr. Draper. He was there, and we went into the house, Mr. Bowen want up stairs into the parlor, and I remained in the front basement, which was that evening used as a depository for the cloaks and hats of the company. There was a meeting of the Kent Club there that evening, as I was informed. I saw several gentlemen in the room. I recollect Mr. William H, Harrison. 1 think I engaged in conversation with him; also Mr. George W. Gibbs and David B, Ogden, Esq. After I had waited about ten minutes, Messrs. Bowen, Blatchford and Draper came down, and we al! went to the house of the latter. We went into the back room of the rear building. A conversa- tion immediately commenced in relation to my success in making collections, and the amount I required to be made up. In a short time, Mr. Bowen left. At about half-past eleven o'clock, and before our arrangements were completed, Messrs. George S. Doughty and Redwood Fisher called at the house. They went into the front parlor ; Mr. Draper went in to see them, and Mr. Blatch- ford also. Mr. Draper returned in a few moments, and we completed our ar- rangements as to the funds. I received all that I required, and handed to Mr. Simeon Draper the checks that I had collected, and received from him his draft, at sight, on Mr. William Gill, of the city of Philadelphia, which, with what I had in cash, amounted to between two and three thousand dol- lars. I went into the parlor, and saw General Doughty, and Mr. Redwood Fisher, and ascertained that the object of their visit was to return a check of three hundred dollars, which had been given to Mr. Benjamin Birdsall, to secure the services of Martin E. Waters, of the Sixth Ward, which appropria- tion was solicited by Mr. Birdsall, of Mr. Fisher and myself, for that purpose, 8 some time previous, and approved of. The check was returned in conse* quence of some remark which Mr, Blatchford had made in relation to the misapplication of funds, in the presence of Mr. Birdsall, to which Mr. Bird- sail had taken exception. Mr. Blatchford made a satisfactory explanation, and the check was retained by Doughty and Fisher, to be returned to Mr. Birdsall. I left the house of Mr. Draper, with Mr. Blatchford, Mr. Fisher, and General Doughty, with a perfect understanding that I was to go to Phi- ladelphia and carry out the before named plan, "We all resided in the same neighborhood, and rode up in a hack from Mr. Draper's house : it was rain- ing. I left for Philadelphia the next morning, and arrived there about three o'clock, P. M., and went to the United States Hotel. I called immediately on Colonel Swift. I told him that I wanted to see Young and Miller that evening. He said that he would notify them and that they should be directed to meet me at the house of Mr. George Riston. After leaving the house of Colonel Swiff, I went to the residence of Mr. Wm. Gill, on whom I had the draft for the money, and was informed that he had gone to the Falls of the Schuylkill, and would not return until evening. At about six o'clock, I again called at Mr. Gill's house. At this time I saw him, and presented the draft. He said that he had not the amount in the house, and that it was impossible (it being Sunday) to arrange it until bank hours the next day. I then re- quested him to give me his check, or checks, daled the next day, which be did, drawn, I think on the Bank of the U. States. Mr, David Dorrance, of the United States Hotel, cashed one of the checks, and the other, I think, was cashed by Mr, Geo.Riston, at the same place— though of this I am not positive. I recollect that I declined receiving Baltimore funds from a gentleman at the hotel, who, I presume, had been solicited to cash one of the checks for me. Between eight and nine o'clock that evening, I went to Mr. George Riston'a to meet Young and Miller, and there had a private interview with Young,and paid him eight hundred and sixty-eight dollars, lor which I took his receipt. At the same time and place, I had an interview with Miller, and paid him five hundred and sixty dollars, and took his receipt for the same. The busi- ness was done in the back parlor, the folding doors being closed. They agreed to send on the men, on the terms before stated. I paid them separate- ly, no person being present. The men were to leave by the diflferent lines, at seven, nine and five o'clock, the next day, with instructions to report to Noah Cook, at National Hall, Canal street, and some others, I think, at his place of business, on the corner af Broad and Water streets. Noah Cook was at this time one of the whig candidates for the Assembly, from the city of New- York. After my return, I was, during the whole three days of the election, almost constantly occupied in the private Committee room at National Hall. Marshall O. Roberts ofihe Fith Ward, Cook of the Sixth Ward, John Faulkner of the Seventh Ward, Gedney of the Eighth Ward, and soma others, whose names I do not now recollect, assisted us in our operations, by taking charge of the men, and seeing that they were properly disposed oi in theiir respective wards, and enabled to put in their votes, Bowen, Blatch- ford and Draper, and some other prominent members of the party, were ad- mitted into the private Committee room, where the men were drilled prepar- atory to tlieir going out to vole. The modus operandi was wilnesied by the gentlemen named, and afforded them much amusement. In this room, I saw Mr. Blatcbford hand Noah Cook some money. To most of the mea a slip oi paper was given, with the name and residence they were to assume written upon it. The residences, in some instances, were furnished by leading members of the party-from the different wards, and were such as would not be likely to excite suspicion. They were prin- cipally, I believe, boarding-houses, and such houses as were occupied by a number of families. The men were thoroughly drilled: many of them, it was represented, were old hands, and understood their business. The method adopted was as follows: the men were placed in a row, and, as before stated, a piece of paper, with assumed name and resi- dence, was given to them, the usual questions asked by the Inspectors, as to qualifications, were put to them repeatedly, until they could answer satis- factorily, and without embarrassment. Frequently alterations were made among the men during the election, by changing hats and coats among themselves. I recollect there were some persons from New- Jersey, who were under the immediate charge of Noah Cook. I do not know by whom they were employed or on what terms they were there ; they appeared very efficient, and frequently changed their dress — which changes v)cre per- sonally attended to by Noah Cook. I saw him put his own hat and coat on some of them several times. These men boasted oi having voted in several of the different wards, and in some instances mora than once in the same v/ard. Daring the Fall election of J8S8, Mr. William A. Lawrence, and Jonathan Nathan, assisted in the upper private Committee room at National Hall, in erasing the n^mes from the democratic tickets, and substituting the names of the whig candidates, which tickets were used by the persons who were drilled as aforesaid. There was also a young man by the name of Cog- gershall, whose father was at that time, or subsequently, the keeper of the City Prison, who was aiso employed in preparing tickets. There was a difficulty with some of the men, ia consequence of apart ef their money being retain- ed by the leader or leaders ; and at the instance, and with the advice of Messrs. Lawrence and Nathan, I paid them, to defray their expenses to Philadelphia, one hundred and ninet3'-four dollars, which amount, less some small sub- scriptions, was returned to me, a few days after the election, by Mr. Richd. M. Blatchford. During the three days of the election, many of the active mem- bers of the whig party were admitted to the private committee room. I was perfectly satisfied, from the successful management of the operation, that the whig ticket would be elected in the city, and I so expressed myself to a number of the leaders of the party. After the result of the election in the state was knov/n, I was repeatedly so- licited by many prominent members of the whig; party to take office. The of- fice of Commissary General, Adjutant General, Flour Inspector, and others, were named, which I declined. The appointment of Tobacco Inspector had never been suggested to me. I was informed that the term of the then incum- bent did not expire nntil th:- wint^^ of 1810, a year after the election of Gov ernor Ssward. The subject of the resignation of Mr. J. D. Stevenson was first suggested to me by Mr, Robert C. Wetmore. I met Mr. Stevenson and Mr. Nathaniel Pierce, by appointment, al the store of said Wetmore. 2 10 I had previously conversed with General Prosper M. Wetmore oa th4 practicability of this arrangement. The result of this interview india- ced me to consult some of my party friends as to the propriety of ma- king an effort to secure the office one year in advance of its expiration. Among those whom I consulted, I recollect Messrs. R. M. Blatchford, James Bowen, Chandler Starr, and Simeon Draper, Jr., ail of whom, with the ex- ception ol the last named, considered it best to make the effort to obtain the appointment, for my own sake as well as for the interests of the party, and promised their co-operation in effecting that object. We had a meeting on the subject at the store of Mr. Draper, at which meeting R. M. Blatchford, Chandler Starr, Simeon Draper, Jr., James Bowen and Robert C. Wetmore were present. After this interview, about the 10th of January, 1839, I visited Albany. R. M. Blatchford, Moses H. Grinnell, James Bowen, Simeon Dra- per, Jr. and Chandler Starr left, I think, on the same morning for Albany, by the river route. I went by the way of New Haven. After my arrival in Albany I was introduced to Governor Seward by Mr. Blatchford, and de- livered him a letter of recommendation, of which the following is a copy : New York, January 11th, 1839. To his Excellency William H. Seward, Governor, &c. &c. Dear Sir— This will be handed you by my personal friend, Mr. James B. Glentworih, of this city, who although not personally known to your Excel- lency, will, I doubt not, be recognized as one of the most ardent and indefatiga- ble pariizans, to whose untiring exertions, perhaps more than to any other in this city, the recent triumph of our party and success of sound principles may be attributed. He will explain to you personally his wishes, and hand you, at the same time, letters recommending him to your consideration. In conclusion, I must be allowed to say that I consider it as a mere act of justice to this gentleman to state, that there is no person from this district who can present the same character of aiaim for office upon the party, and I shall feel myself as personally gratified if theyshou:d meet the favorable consideration of your Excellency. With great regard, Your Excellency's ob't serv't R. C. WETMORE. I had another very strong letter to the Governor, but whether I gave it then or sent it previous to my visit to Albany, or delivered it at all, I cannot now recollect. This letter was signed by only a few influential party men, and I think no names were signed to it except Messrs. Blatchford, Grinnell, Bow- en, Draper, Starr and Wetmore. I recollect distinctly of Mr. Wetmore's handing rae the letter, al^ter he had procured Mr. Grinnell's signature. The reason why the lettei .may not have been used is the fad that the gentlemen who signed it were there to urge my claims in person, except Mr. Wetmore. That they were all in the city of Albany, and put up together at the Eigle Tavern, will appear by the register. Their names are entered on the lOth day of January, 1839. During an interview which I had with Governor Seward, he remarked that I was act an applicant for the office of Tobacco Inspector, and sag jested my making lh» application in writing, which I immediately 11 complied with. Mr. Stevenson drew his resignation and placed it in the hands of Mr. R. M. Blatchford, with a perfect understacding that I was to be nomi- nated in his place. It will be remen:bered that the Governor was much em- barrassed at this time in the confirmation of his nominations by the Senate, a majority of that body beifig: opposed to him in politics. The subject of Mr. Stevenson's resignation and my appointment was kept perfectly quiet, and it was supposed by us that the Governor only waited the action of the Senate up- on some of the notiiinations then before them, and that when they were dispo- sed of, my nomination would be sent in. There were rumors afloat that Thur- low "Weed was opposed to my having the appointment, and that he had an agreement with Mr. Charles Oakley, by the terms of which he, Mr. Weed, was to raceivefive thousand dollars if he procured the ofBce for him at the ex- piration of Mr, Stevenson's term. Whether there v^as any foundation for these rumors I had no means of ascertaining positively, but in consequence of them Mr. Stevenson became dissatisfied; and his suspicions were increased by the fact that my nomination was delayed, and he stated to some of the dele- gation, and to myself, that he believed there was a design on the part of Weed and the Governor to use unfairness in relation to the appointment. Previous to this time, Messrs. Blatchford, Grinnell, Bowen, Draper and Starr had re- turned to the city of New York, and Mr. Stevenson's resignation was placed by Mr. Blatchford in the hands of Noah Cook, without his knowledge or con- sent. Mr. Stevenson was alarmed and dissatisfied with Mr. Blatchford for entrusting it with Cook, as were also some of our delegation, who thought Mr. Cook was exercising mere influence with Governor Seward in relation to the city appointments than his merits entitled him to. Mr. Stevenson and myself stayed at Congress Hall, and we were in daily confidential intercourse with the members of the delegation and other promi- nent persons of our party who were at that house. Of the number was a gen- tleman connected with the press of this city, of high character and attain- ments, and who I have reason to know was cognizant of the arrangement be- tween Mr. Stevenson and myself. This gentleman has since become satis- fied that the pledges of Governor Seward were " but as a sounding brass and tinkling cymbal." My nomination was made to the Senate on the 19th of February, 1839, -and I believe unanimously confirmed. On the day of ray appointment. Governor Seward desired, through Mr. Lyman, (the agent or engineer of the Erie Rail- road Company,) that the delegation would address a letter to him recommend- ing me to this appointment. The request was immediately complied with, every whig member from the first Senate District, and every member of the Assembly from the city of New York, signing the same. I then returned home and entered upon the duties of my office. I had many applications for the subordinate situations under my control, which, from the nature of my arrange- ments, I could not gram. Much (iissatisfaction wa3 expressed by my party friends, in consequence of my retaining those adverse to us in politics, and rumors were rife that I had compromised myself and the interests of the party. I could make no explanations, and was compelled to listen to their reproaches. The spring elec- tion was near at hand, and this probably kept some of them in check. I still eon- linued a member of tbe loung Men's General Committer, auhongh, after liquida* ting the liabilities wbich we had incurred, and which were of considerable amount, I resigned as Chairman of the Finance Committee. The whig papers of the city of New York approved of my appointnient, with the exception of the American, as the following extracts, which, having at hand, I insert, will show : '•It will be seen by an advertisement in another column that Mr. James B. Glentworth has been appointed Tobacco Inspecter for this city. The appoint- ment is highly judicious, and cannot fail to give general satisfaction to the mer- cantile community. He has secured the services of Mr. Nathaniel Pearce as his deputy — formerly United States Consul at Bremen, and for many years extensively engaged in the tobacco trade." " Among the appointments recently made at Albany, is that uf Mr. J. B. Glent- worth, Tobacco Inspector of this city — an office, th*? duties of which, we doubt not, he will discharge with fidelity and perfect satisfaction to the public. It will be seen by his advertisement, that he has employed a gontloman of high character and long experience in tbe business to assise him, which will secure a faithful and judicious discharge of the duties required." Thus ended the campaign of 1838, and such, so far as related to myself, at that rime, were its results. The success of our fraudulent operaiions in 1838 had been of such a char- acter, and produced such results, as to warrant, ai least, the attempt to bring the same influence to bear upon the spring election of 1839. In the early part of March of this year, the matter was again suggested to me. It was at this time the decided and expressed opinioa of some of the leaders ol the whig party in this city, that we must be defeated at the approaching charter elec- tion. Much anxiety was felt and expressed on the subject ; the importance of our success canvassed and, fiaally, it resulted in a direct proposition to me to carry out the Philadelphia operation again. This I peremptorily de- clined, alleging, among other reasons, that I was filling an important office; that I had previously been suspected and charged with unfair management by some ot the papers of the other party, and that, under 3uch circumsisnces, I would be closely watched. These leasons, independent of any moral obli- gation, which alone should have been sufficient to have checked any further solicitation of me to aid again in the perpetration of frauds upon the eleclive franchise, were disregarded. We had succeeded before, and exposure had not followed. We were elated with the success produced by that operation, and anticipated the like success and gratification, if we again resort«d to the tame means to obtain it. It was contended that I was under obligations to the parly; that no one was acquainted with the ^men in Pniladelphia whom it would be necessary to employ; and also, that it would be unsafe to entrust the matter to any other persi)ri. I was also urged to embark in the operation as a matter of interest to myself. It was slated to.be ray duty to take a more active and decisive part in favor of the party. It was also alleged that the committee and others were dis.saii.sfied with me, from the fact that I had not been as active as I was previous to my appointment to office. TTic mor^il tnr- 18 pitude ofthi transaction was wsver mentioned. We acltd upon this principle, "all is fair in politics," I however consented to give the proposition my consideration. A short time after ray attention was called to the subject, and, according to my present recoUeciion, on the same dsy, I saw Mr. Jas. Bowen, and conversed with him in relation to it. The result of tny interview with him awoke again all my party fseling and party prid?, and 1 decided to em- bark once more in a transaction which I shall never cease to regret. I agreed to go to Philadelphia and make the arrangements for the men, but with the express stipulation that I would have nothing to do with them in New York ; that committees or persons must be selected to take charge of and superintend their operations. I had frequent conversations on the subject of selecting pro- per persons to manage the men after they should arrive in the city. It was concluded that it would be the most effective to divide the men into small par- ties, and I named several as proper persons to take charge of them. Among these mentioned I recollect the names cf ?. McArdle, J. F. Raymond, Zenos Wheeler ; but at the sanae tirag I stated that Noah Cook was the only person competent to be entrusted with the entire management of the men, for the rea- son that he had experience in the business, having participated largely in the affair of 1838. I was also to bo freed from all responsibility in procuring per- sons to superintend the operations of the men in the city of New York. About the 20ih of March, 1839, 1 went to Philadelphia to make the arrange- ments for the men, similar to those made by me in the fall of the year 1838. I called on Colonel Sv/ifc, (the mayor of the city of Philadelphia,) at his office, and was introduced by him to Recorder Rush. It was election day. Colonel S. informed me that he and the police had been on duty most or all of the pre- ceding day ; that he had a large force in the room adjoining his ofSce, to be used in case of necessity. On my arrival I im.mediately commenced making arrangements. I saw Miller, Saunders, Svvint, Thornton, and others. Mr. Bela Badger called on me in company with Mr. J. D. Wolfe, of the Northern Liberties, and 'introduced him to rae. I also saw some of our political friends from Southwark. I was invited to attend a caucus to be held at Mr. Badger's house. I went, and met some ten or fifteen gentlemen. The object, as I un- derstood, was to submit the whole subject to them, and to make such arrange- ments to carry the same into effect as might be determined upon. Mr. Bad- ger, after introducing me, remarked that I was among the " bone and sinew" of the Third District, and that I might speak out without reserve ; that they were all good and true men. This was the substance, and, according to my recollection, the exact language used by him on that occasion. I stated to ihem, briefly, the object of my visit to Philadelphia, and asked their co opera- tion. This they agreed to, and left it, vviih Mr. Badger, to arrange directly with me for the force I would require from the Norihern Liberties. A day or two after my arrival I received the following note from James Young : Mr. Glentworth : Sir— I have gone to Baltimore, and will be at home on Saturday next. — Every thing is right. If you have any thing to say to me yeu can leave it in a letter at the Mayor's office, or in the care of Mr. Gibbs, who will take good care of it. Yours in haste, JAMES YOUNG. Philadelphia, 23d March, 1839. Mr. Glentworth, U. S. Hotel. ^ 14 After progressing with my arrangements as far as I considered advisable, I returned to New York on the 30 h of March. I few days after my return t received the following letter from Mr. Bela Badger: Philadelphia, April 2nd, 1839. Dear Sir— It will be impossible for me to send you a bill of lading at this time for your yarn. I find more difficulty in getting your order ready than I anticipated. I think, however, the order can be completed in lime to an- swer your purpose, but I cannot send the bill yet. The terms of pay- ment you propose will likewise be an objection. My partners are not wil- ling to serve you on any better terms than what they charged you before, and the same credit. I think, on t he whv:)le, if you were here in person you could do batter, and as the order is of some in.portance, I would recommend you to do so without delay. If you should come on this week, please ascertain, pre- vious to leaving, to whom ihe goods are to be conaigned in your absence, a« I may wi^h to ship some of ihera before your return. With much respect, your ob't servant, GEORGE W. RHAWN, 293 North-second street. This letter was addressed to Mr. G. A. Wilkins, No. 17 Broad s-treet, New- York, and I presume at my suggestion, as I was a partner, at that time, in the house of Messrs. Wilkins, Rollins & Co. The assuming of the name of George W. Rhawn, and this mode of correspondence, was suggested by Mr. Badger, and acquiesced in by me. A few days after the re- ceipt of this letter, I went to Philadelphia again. Immediately af- ter my arrival, I saw Mr. Badger, and others, who were interest ed in aiding in carrring out my plans. I had repeated interviews with h>m, and others, at this time and previously, at my rooms at the United States Ho- tel, and at other places. At one of these interviews, it was suggested by Mr. Badger that I should employ some of Mr. Robert Looney's men, in place of Ihosefurnishedby James Young, and others, from the city proper. He in- formed me of some of Mr. Looney's political operations, and said he consi- dered the men he could furnish would be more efficient. Mr. Looney, I think, was represented as a plumber, who was employed to do the work for the Cor- poration of the citj of Philadelphia, and had a great many men at his dispo- sal. I was introduced by Mr. Badger to Mr. Looney, at the residence of the latter, and I immediately communicated to him the object of my visit. He said considerable about his confidential party services, some of which were certainly very singular ; and during the conversation, he occasionally appealed to Mr. Badger for a confirmatioa of his statements. I made up my mind to employ him. I paid Mr. Looney seven hundred dollars on account, at Evans's Hotel, in r<;orge streci. I met him at this place in pursuance of an appointment made between him and Mr Badger. Mr. Badger and myself arrived first, went into a private room, and were soon joined by Mr. Looney. He furnished me with a list of thirty-five or forty names, from which some four or five were erased. These men, I think, were furnished at twcnty-fiva dollars each ; all the rest were furnished at thirty dollars each. Mr. Badger WM prcBcnt when I made the payment to Mr. Looney. On the 8th day of April, 1839, I received the following Utter : 15 New- York, April 7th, 1839. Dear G. — I shall not be able to come, or send the requisite, this P. M. or to- morrow morning, bat you may depend upon seeing me at 12 M. Monday night, with all you have asked. Go on, and make your arrangements, on that ba- sis—not calculating on any earlier period for your return than Tuesday, 7 and 8 A. M., with all we shall look for. Yours, &c. W. C. SCOTT. James B. Glentworth. Esq., Marshall House. This letter, which is now in my possession, is in the hand writing of Henry W. Havens. Mr. Havens was one of the Secretaries of the Whig Young; Men's General Committee at that time. Previous to my leaving for Philadelphia, I was given to understand that money suflacient to cancel all my engagements there would be forwarded to me. I would not have gone, without the requisite amount of funds, but for the receipt of Mr. Badger's lettei* of the 2nd of April, 1839, signed George W. Rhawn, From the tenor of that letter I feared there might be some diffi- culty, and I went on with means of my own, to use if it were necessary, to keep the parties quiet, part of which I was compelled to use before Mr. Havens' arrival. On the Monday night referred to in the letter from Mr. Havens, signed W. C. Scott, at about eleven o'clock, I went, in company with Charles Swint, to the railroad depot, to await the arrival of the cars from New- York. "We went there in a hack. I left Swint in the hack, and waited on the pave- ment until the passengers came out. I met Mr. Henry W. Havens. We went to the hack together, and, at my suggestion, we were driven to Sander- son's Hotel, in Fourth, near Arch street. The reason why this house was selected, was because it was more retired and out of the way, and I was fear- ful if he went to the United States Hotel, or was seen with me, it might excite suspicion. On our arrival at Sanderson's, we went into the bar-room, and Mr. Havens handed me a package of money, which I counted, and found short fifty dollars. I mentioned this, and Mr. Havens replied that he had retained it for his expenses. This package contained twenty-nine hundred and fifty dollars. A fictitious name was entered on the register at Sanderson's Hotel. I may have suggested this to Mr. Havens, and may have written it ; but if so, it was done in his presence, and with his entire concurrence. My Impression is, that the pen was handed him by the clerk, and that he entered on the register Charles Daurs. New-York. It was now past twelve o'clock — no persons were in the bar-room except Havens, Swint, the clerk and myself. I paid Swint five hundrpd dollars, and took his receipt. The object of Swint's going with me that evening was, to get funds to pay some men, who, he repre- sented were at rendezvous waiting for it. I only remained with Havens, at Sanderson's, ten or fifteen minutes, and did not see him again in Philadel- phia that spring. I think he informed me, when I left him, that he would re- turn to New-York the next morning. I must here advert to the affidavit of Henry W. Havens, taken before the Recorder of the city of New-York, on the 20th day of October, 1840; and in doing so, if I know my own heart, I am free from any unkind feeling towards him. I regret that his judgment has been influenced, and that his own act has placed him in a position that I doubt not he has often bitterly repented . I publish Mr. Haven's affidavit entire, and comments en the same. 16 Henry W. Havens appeared as a witness on the subpoena. Knows James B. Glentworth ; has known him for years past, but has seen but little of him lately ; I saw him in Philadelphia in the year 1838, 1 think, I am not sure, I was there in the spring of 1837, and either the spring or fail of 1838, is not certain which, but think net in the fall ; I have no distinct remem- brance as to the time. I took money on to him at one of the occasions I have mentioned; I do not recollect the precise amount; I think it was something like a thousand dollars ; I do not think it was two thousand ; it was in bank bills; it was done up in a package ; must have been bills; I understood it was money ; the person who gave it to me said it was money ; I do not know his name; hs was a young man ; I have seen him frequently; don't know his name ; know no part of his name; don't know where he lives; do not know where or how he is to be found; have not seen him for about two years ; I was in my office when I received the package; I presume he was told I was going to Philadelphia ; I did not ask him ; I do not recollect he said anything particular; he merely handed it to me; he may have made some casual re- mark; I do not know who it came from ; I might guess ; I will not undertake to say whether it came from one or more; I had been told before I was to take a package to Philadelphia ; I decline answering v/ho told me I was to take on the package ; the request that I should bring on the money came from Mr. Glentworth; Mr. Glentv/orth I found in Philadelphia ; I had no knowledge of his being here in this city at the time I received the money; I received a note from Mr. Glentworth to that effect, that money would be handed me ; I have not the note ; he said the money would be sent to me ; he did not name the source from whence I would receive it; note was very brief ; after the note of Glentworth was received, did not converse with any one about the package of money ; I did no: know where to find Glentworth ; I put up at my usual place of stopping at that time, the United States, and found him there; he met me in the street as I was going up to the house ; have no knowledge how or by whom the money was raised; I had met the young man who gave me the money in the street, and frequently at whig meetings; I went on to Philadelphia to bring ray sister home ; the young man was not, that I know of, asecretary or officer of whig meetings ; I do not know whose writing was on the envelope ; it was short- ly before an election, I think, but am not positive; all conversation I had with Glentworth about the packages was, I had brought on the packages he had written about or something to that effect; I do not rememberany thing being important conversation, or that impressed it upon my mind; nothing said about his being successful; he broke the package open ; Isaw.bills, but can- not state what bank ; they were allSlOO bills ; I thought it singular, and there- fore purposely refrained from asking any questions about the money or its ob- ject; 1 5,aw Glentwp-th only for a few moments; he opened the package and counted the money, and said it was correct ; on my return I never asked any persons about it that I know of; young man who gave me the package ; may have seen him once or twice since, but neverspoke to him about it. I saw him in the street, and at whig meetings ; I had no belief that it was forwarded to Mr. Glentworth for election purposes; I may have been present when the a- ni«unt of money spent by Mr. Glentworth was spoken of, but do not recollect It when il was, or where it was ; has heard Mr. Glentworth spoken of; has not heard the araoHnl forwarded to Mr. Glentworth spoken of. Knows nothing about means forwarded to Glentworth, except what I toot ; I do not know persons eatne on here to vote ; don't know James Young, of Philadelphia; I was at the United States Hotel, and was ihere a day and:a half, having arrived in the afternoon of one caj' ; stayed there one day, and left the next morning ; no fictitious name was given for me that I know of; as far as I know my name was put in the book; if any other name was put there it was an imposition upon me ; I brought my ?ister wiih me ; I was not there in spring of 1839 ; I never carried any money there for Glentworth, except npon this occasion ; no one present but myself and Glentworth when I paid the money to him. HENRY W. HAVENS. Taken and sworn before me this 20th day of October, 1840. ROBERT H. MORRIS, Recorder of the City of New York. COMMENTS. Mr. Havens was in Philadelphia, and I believe with his sister, in the spring of 1838. I recollect distinctly meeting hirathere in the street, in the neighbor- hood of the United States Hotel. I was there to meet some of my family on their return from spending part of the winter at Washington ; they were undercharge of friends as far as Philadelphia, and Ijoined them by appoint- ment there. I have my bills at the United States Hotel, dated March, 1838; and I think it was at this time I saw Mr. Havens. I was in Philadelphia for the purpose named, and with no reference to political matters. I did not see Mr, Havens in Philadelphia in the fall of 1838, He did not bring on funds tome at any other time than in April, 1839. There was no necessity for his bringing on funds to me in the fall of 1838, for it will bs recollected that it is conceded thai I came on to New York, was recalled by a leUer brought me by William A. Ford, and after making the arrangement for the funds in part by Mr. Drn.per's draft on William Gill, of Philadelphia, as before refer- red to, I returned to Philadelphia to consummate my arrangements. It was three thousand dollars that Mr, Havens was entrusted to bring on to me, and which amount, less fifty dollars deducted for his personal expenses, he handed me ; this is in accordance with his letter, signed W. C. Scott, of the 7th April, 1839. How is Mr. Havens enabled to express an opinion as to the amount, if *' it was done up in a package" 1 He gays: " / think it was something like a thousand dollars ; I do not think it ivas tieo thousand; it was done up in a package-, must have been bills; I understood it was mo- ney.'^ Mr. Havens hazards an opinion as to the amount contained in the package, without being enabled, in his own mind, to determine whether the package certainly contained bank bills or otherwise. Was the pack- age sealed 7 Is it not somewhat singular that a person should be selected and entrusted with a package containing three thousand dollars, to hand Mr. Havens, who was an entire stranger 1 And remark, who informed him that it contained money 1 Was this the effect of accident or design 1 Al- though Mr, Havens stated he was ignorant of the name and residence of this person, will he deny that he knew him to be in the employ of the very individual whom he might guess sent the package ? Mr. Havens says : " / 3 had been told before I teas to take a package to Philadelphia ; I decline an- swering who told me I was to take on the package." And why decline? If Mr. Havens was so entirely ignorant and iunocent in this business, why withhold the name of the person who told him that he was to take charge of the packaged I may have addressed a note to Mr. Havens informing him that I was compelled to return to Philadelphia unexpectedly,— (the reason of that return was the letter from Mr. Badger, dated April 2, 1839) —and that he would be entrusted wiih some funds to bring on to me. I had, however, no interview that I recollect with him on this subject. It may have been suggested to me before I left the city that I had bettergive Mr. Havens some intimation before I started. It will be recollected that I returned from Philadelphia about the 30;h of March, and that I went back again in a few days. Mr. Badger's letter, urging me to come on, is dated April 2d, 1839. I may have gone on the evening of iis receipt or the fol- lowing day. In the interim I had been very much engaged in assisting the joint Finance Committee of the Old and Young Men's General Com- mittees in their collection*:. On the evening of the Istol April, 1839, (for we always met of an evening,) I paid Mr. Shepherd Knapp five hundred and fifty dollars, which I had collected that day. Alderman Whitehead of the I4th Ward accompanied me to make the collections. On the 3d or 4th of April, 1839, I went back again to Philadelphia, for the reasons and for the pur- poses before named. Mr. Havens, in his affidavit, says: " After the note of Glentworth was received, did not con \'^erse with any one about the package of money." I regret the position m which Mr. Havens has placed himself by such inconsistent statements. Towards the close of December, 1810, at my rooms at the Astor House, James Bowen informed me, in the course of conversation about these mat- ters, that Havens had called upon him, in reference to bringing on the pack- age of money, and to ask instructions, and that he told him he had nothing to do with it ; and that Havens had also called on Mr. Blatchford at this lime, and made the same inquiries. Now, is it not apparent that Mr. Havens, in his eagerness to identify him- self with an important confidential party movement, loses sight of all pruden- tial considerations 1 Why did he not keep quiet 1 Was be told to move in the matter, or to call on any one 7 Certainly not. It was all arranged, and ready to be carried into effect at the proper time ; for we find that the money ultimately comes into Mr. Havens's charge, under circumstances, as detailed by himself, at once strange and suspicious, and without any actfon or partici- pation on his part. Mr. Ha veas swears : " He, (Glentworth, in his note) said the money would be sent to me. He did net name the source from which I would receive it." True : and why did you call on Mr. Bowen, Blatchford, and another ^ In & word — if the contemplated operation was a just and right jp". )• TO'.'.M hc^vr trfrti'inv nnd in Vi-s'ii'ation, if not, at the time, certainly af- ct was aiiained for which that se- • • . '. aiystery or concealoieni { if that .ry, waste al and laudable purpose, why are the '■•hoc!r--i - . • : im, and by a stranger (at >i, Bf hetp 4 the iniegritv of uor ac- lions and purposes, we seek, we defy investigation ; it fortifies the innocent, and emboldens him to speak out, with manly bearing and honest pride, the truth. What has an Aon^y^ man to fear from" the truth'? Mr. Havens says: "I did not know where to find Glentworth." True ; and why 1 Because, in the hurry of leaving, 1 neglected, in the note hs refers to, giving him my ad- dress. But he took the hazard, in the letter he wrote me signed W. C. Scott, to direct it tome at the Marshall House, Philadelphia. He also swears: *' I put up at my usual place of stopping at that time, the United States Hotel, and found him there — he met me in the street as I was going up to the house." Now let us extract, from Havens's own letter, under the fictitious signature of \V. C. Scoit, of April 7ih, 1839: ^'but you may depend on seeing me on Monday nighty at 12 M, wilh all you have askcdy Mr. Ho vens's memory is again at fault. He went, on his arrival at the depot, Philadelphia, on the night of the 8ih April, 1839, at nearly twelve o'clock, in a hack, with me and Charles Swlnt, to Sanderson's Hotel, as before detailed. Mr. Havens's nams is not on the books of the United Slates Hotel at this time. More than a year since, I sent to Philadelphia, and obtained a transcript from the registers of the United States Hotel, and also from Sanderson's Hotel. The letters in- closing these transcripts, bear the post mark ol November 17th and 19th, 1840, and are now in my possession. The fictitious name assumed by Mr. Havens, is on the register at Sanderson's, and the last name entered. It may be argu- ed that the register may have been mutilated in the one case, and a name easi- ly entsredin the other. True; bat Mr. Havens's name is not entered on the books at all of the United States Hotel ; whereas, on the other hand, the name he assumed at Sanderson's Hotel, is not only found on the register, but on the books of that house, credited for ths amount of his bill. Again, he swears: I never carried money there for Glsnhuorth,ezc3pl upon this occa- s'^cn. I was not there in the spring of 1839." Nowf, it is not contended that I participa'ed in bringing on persons from Philadelphia for a lawful and jus- tifiable object, or for an unlawful and fraudulent purpose, except in the fall of the year 1838, and spring of 1839 ; and it is equally ap- parent, that there was no necessity for Mr. Havens, or any body else, to bring on funds to me, at Philadelphia, in the fall , of 1838, for I was re- called by a special messenger a few days prior to the election; and that I did return to New- Yx)rk, and again went back to Philadelphia, wifh the requisite funds, as before shown. These poinis are all conceded in the examinations of Messrs. Blatchford, Grinnell and Draper, taken before the Recorder of the city of New-York, in October, 1810. Now, what becomes of Mr. Havens's unquali- fied denial, that he was in Philadelphia in the spring of 18391 Mr. Ha- ven's memory is lamentably deficient. After the receipt of the funds by Mr. Havens, the arrangements were consummated, and the men paid— some the ^hcle amount, and others a part— by Looney, Swim and Saunders, and they were directed to report themselves to Noah Cook, at Masonic Hall: some of them may have received directions to Mr. Cook, at his place of business, on the corner of Water and Broad .streets. The leaders of the party were ia some, and 1 think in most cases, furnished with a letter to Mr. Cook, con- taining the names of the men under their charge. The men were to Uave Philadelphia by different routes, and at different hours, in tie seven 99 and nice o'cloetc moroing lines, by railroad and ctenisboat, and by the eveniog railroad line. Of this I have no personal knjwledge; such was ihe understanding, and it ^as a necessary precaution, so as not to excite suspicion. 1 returned to New York on the second day of the election. I did not go, I think, to the Committee room at Masonic Hall until the next morning. I saw Ntsah Cook there ; he had the general superintendence of the affair ; also, Mr. J. Coggeshall, his son, H. W. Havens, J. H. Van Alen, and J. C. Brant, and others, some of whom I do not now recollect. There was also a young man by the name of Campbell, whom I was surprised to see admitted to the private committee room. I saw in the private committee room, and also in the large room adjoining, many persons, some of whom I recognized as belonging to the Philadelphia party. I also saw some of the same men that had been employed at the previous fall elec- tion, and who were represented as coming from New Jersey. They appeared to understand their business. I saw Noah Cook loan his hat and coat to these men, and change their hats and coats, so as to disguise and prevent their detection. I received, while at the Committee room, tlie following letters from Mr. Bela Bad- ger, signed George W. Rhav^n : Philadelphia, April 6, 1839. Dear Sir — Permit me to introduce to your notice my particular friend, William F. Pitifield, who i* about t® visit your city on business. Mr. Pittfield is a young man of high respectability, in whom every confidence can be placed. Any civility you may have in your power to render him, while in your city, will be most cheer- fully reciprocated by Your obedient 3er\'aBt, GEORGE W. RHAWr. J. B. Glentworth, Esq., New York. Philadelphia, April 9, 1839. Dear Sir — I take pleasure in introducing to your favorable notice, John Mua- cbant, George Fisher, and John Hurst, who are about to visit your city on busi- ness. Any civilities y«>u have in your power to render them while in New York, will add to the many obligations already conferred on Your obedient servant, GEORGE W. RHAWN. J. B. Glentworth, Esq., New York. I find among my papers a receipt from John Muschant, dated April 11th, 1839, for forty dollars, in full, and I think that 1 paid each of the others thiity dollars. During the afternoon of the third day of the election, I saw, in the private com- mittee room, a man who was rojjresented to be Coulson, a police otficcr, from the city of Albany. I 8?-"V Noah C-jok pay him money, but what amount I do not know. There was some very angry coii vernation cAnied on between Cook, Coul- son, and a third person, whose name I did not a3cer»^ain ; the amount of the con vffrsation, I think, wss dissatisfaction on the part of the men in reference to some portion of the money promised them being retained. Coulson, after receiving the money, was directed to get the men to the boat to return to Albany. The boat na- 21 med wa» not one of the regular boats of the NdilH River Line; 1 think it waa ih« Victory. The men from Philadelphia, I understood, were variously disposed of ; some were provided for at a house kept by a person named Mott, in Spring street, and others at Lafayette Hall, and elsewhere. I think, from Couhon's remarks, that his patty were quartered at the last mentioned place. Of these matters I have no per- sonal knowledge, and as I have before stated, did not make myself acquainted with, as I did not wish to be identified with their acts in the city of New York. Part of the men furnished by Mr. Looney were, as I understood, entrusted to the charge of Mr. McArdle, and that they become dissatisfied when they found that th'\v were to be. entertained at the Alms House, and had cleared out ; most of them, I believe however, reported themselves at the Committee room afterwards. The way we managed to deceive the vigilance of the democratic Lispectors and challengers, was to take the democratic tickets, erase the names carefully with a fine pen, so as not to show through, and substitute the names of the whig candidates. This, of course, deceived the democratic challengers ; they would Hot challenge what they suppo- sed to be their own tickets. The whig challenger was informed by a slip, some time before, of the names he must challenge and then withdraw. This was also understood by the person offering his vote, and was arranged, in some instances, af- ter the arrival of the men in the wards where it was proposed to vote them ; but most generally the arrangements were perfected before the men left the private committee room at Masonic Hall. The democratic Inspectors and challengers were completely blinded. The whig challengers were also informed of the char- acter of the person offering to vote, by a sign ; a pin on the edge of the collar of cuff of the coat; sometimes by apparently an accidental chalk mark on the coat or edge of the hat. The modes of recognition were various, and frequently changed, so as not to excite remark or suspicion. The whig challengers knew their men, also, by the reply given to the first question put to the voter by the Inspector, as, for instance — What's your name, sir ? Why, my name is so and so. Another mode, was in pfosenting the ticket, which was done with the left hand, with thumb and first finger. These, and other various modes, were resorted to, to enable the whig challengers to act knowingly, Mr. James M. Van Alen, and Mr. John C. Brant, were in the private Committee room together, at one time during the election — I think the second day. Mr. Van Alen said he would try his vote down stairs. The Sixth W^rd poll was held in one of the basement rooms of the MasoKic Hall. T loaned him my eoat, at his request ; and after the whig challenger was prepared, he went down, and on his return, in some ten minutes, said that he had voted. Mr. Van Alen was a member of the Whig Young Men's General Committee, and a resident of the Seventeenth Ward, at that time. It must not be supposed that this is an isolated case ; for the sake of sound principles, I wish that I were enabled to record the fact that it was. But in those times of high party excitements, many, very many, perhaps of as good character and standing as Mr. Van Alen, actuated by what they supposed to be honorable and chivalrous impulse, resorted to expedients at once discreditable to themselves, and at variance with morals. The whole matt«r, in my opinion, was very badly managed ; there was a want of system and arrangement. The raer frequently boasted ©f their success. I heard one person say that he voted seren 29 teen times, and otbers that they had voted more than once at the same ward. I have a memoranda, made by one of the Philadelphia party, of his exploits. He said that he voted in the Eighth, Fourteenth, Fourth, Seventh, Ninth, Fifteenth, Sixteenth, Eleventh and Tenth Wards, on the two first days ; and on the third day, the last day of the election, in the Fifth, Third, Second and First Wards ; making in all thirteen votes. Mr. Noah Cook left the Committee room at about half-past four o'clock, with the intentisn, as he represented, of leaving that afters noon at five o'clock, for Albany, to resume his seat in the Legislature of the State of New- York. In the beginning of the inonth of January, 1840, I went to Albany to make my annual return. Previous to this, stories had been circulated by men of my own par- ty, who were opposed to tny retaining the office I then held, that I was a loco foco -^that I had openly admitted that I was a democrat — and therefoie, they came to the conclusion that I ouiibt to be removed from office ; and, in fact, they went so far as to Rame others to fill my place. It is true that I had resisted the interference and refused to submit" to the dictation of men who had no business to meddle with my affairs, and had incurred their further displeasure by refusing to remove Mr. Nalh'i Pierce, a gentleman of high character and undispTited competen- cy, against whom there was no other charge than the fact that he was the political opponent of the whig party. I had also refused to comply with their demand to remove Mr. A. S. Jarvis, my book-keeper, and others in the inspection ware- house who v eral Doughty, George W. Bruen, and David Graham, Jr. Esquires. The letter of General Doughty is as follows : New-York, January — , 1840. His Excellency Wm. H. Seward: Dear Sir — Having taken some interest in the appointment of Mr. James B. Glentworth to the office he now holds, and understanding there is a disposition to remove him, it may not be out of place for me to say something on the subject. Mr. G. was, from 1834 to 1838, a close political associate of mine, and it is unnes cessary to say I found him a very efficient coadjutor. He, like myself, was a se- ceder from the Jackson ranks, and assisted to organize that body of men, the Rank and File Party, to whose exertions, more than to any other, the predominancy of the party is attributable. And I had always supposed, that his extraordinary ex- ertions were founded in principle. A person thus situated, and whom wo have known to be faithful, and who had been rewarded for his services with an office, should not, in my humble opinion, be dismissed upon idle rumor, or accusation with- out proof. If persons have made charges against him (and I understand they have) vitally aflfecting his reputation, and which, if true, should not only produce hit removal from office, but consign him to everlasting disgrace, they owe it to you. 95 \ to themselves, to the party, and above all to Mr. Gientworth, to substantiate them by irrefragible testimony— to admit their falsify, or to withdraw them. I have myself heard various rumors respecting Mr. G., but as yet have not been able to find any evidence of their truth. And it is a serious matter to dismiss from office, one whom yourself appointed, and who had been intimately connected with the party, and closely conversant with its operations from its first organization, and «hould not, in my humble judgment, be done, unless you should be furnished with indubitable evidence of faithlessness, incapacity, or treachery. I have the honor, &c. Sec. GEORGE S. DOUGHTY. Having known Mr. G. under the same circumstances as those referred to by Gen'l. D., I most fully concur in the suggestions contained in his letter. DUDLEY SELDEN. Both the letters from Messrs. Bruen and Graham were read to me and sealed. The last named gentleman, I do not believe, had the remotest idea that any frauds had been perpetrated. They were strong in my commendation. Mr. Bruen's letter spoke of the acquirements of a personal friend whom he advocated for office, and whom he named of course, and contrasted his distinguished reputation and attainments with another person, whom it was confidently thought would succeed in obtaining this ap- pointment. He spoke of the latter as having produced some very bad transla- tions from French works. In referring to me, he directly, and distinctly, alluded to the rumors charging me with participation in the election frauds, and offered, I think, some reasons to palliate the same on my part. The letter was every thing I desired ; it was sealed, and handed me at Mr. Bruen's residence, and I forward- ed it, by mail, to Governor Seward. About a week or ten days afterwards, Mr- Bruen, called to see me ; I was out ; he left word that he wished to see me — After dinner I went around to his house, and he took a letter from his pocket, which he said was from Governor Sewaid. I think he said, that be could not al. low me to read the letter, as it referred to other matters. The Governor desi-- red Mr. Bruen to say to me, that I need take no further trouble, or give myself any uneasiness about my removal, or to this effect. The object I have in view, in alluding to this correspondence, (and which, un- der ordinary circumstances, I would consider inviolate,) of Mr. Bruen with Gover- nor Seward, is to establish the fact of Governor Seward's knowledge of my participation in the frauds that were perpetrated on the elective frtinchise, at the election that elevated him, and returned from the city of New York, four whig members of Congress, two State Senators, and thirteen members of the Legisla- lature of the state; besides all the county appointments, and thus securing to the whig party, the entire patronage of the state. On Tuesday, the 20th day of October, 1840, I was served with a subpcena to attend as a witness, on complaint made against James Young, one of the high constables of the city of Philadelphia. The subpoena was signed Robert H. Morris, Recorder of the city of New York. It was served on me at about eleven o'clock, A. M. I at first declined a compliance with the requirements of the sub- poena, and so informed the officer, and desired him to say to the Recorder, that I ■would attend the next morning ; that I had business that required my immediate «tt«ntion. On reflection, however, I determined to go over to the City Hall, and 4 36 Tnake my own apology to Mr. Morris. I accompanied the officer, and was usher- ed into a room in the old Alms House, where I found Mr. Whiting, the District Attorney, and a gentleman whom I did not know. I inquired for the Recorder, and was told by Mr. Whiting, that he had associated Justice MatssU with him, and would return directly, or to this effect. I commenced to state that I had come over as a mere act of courtesy to the Recorder, to say, that 1 had some bssinees that would occupy me during the morning, and that I would attend the next day, any hour he might designate. I was stopped short by the District Attorney, who proposed to examine me forthwith. I think that I here protested against their authority to do so ; and said, that the subpoena called upon me to appear be- fore the Recorder as a witness, and as he was not present, that I would not re- main. The District Attorney produced the law authorizing the Recorder to asso- ciate any justice with him. To obviate, however, this objection, Mr. Justice Mat- ssU wrote another subpoena, and served it on me. I protested against the whole procedure. I was very much excited ; told them that I was an American citizen; Ibat I had rights, and that I would protect them against such inquisitorial pro- peedings. I said that we were not, thank God, in Spain, but in a free country. I was, I suppose, very intemperate in my language. I mide an attempt to leave the room, and Mr. Matsell, I think, told the officer not to allow me ; he stood be- fore the door, which was, I believe, locked, and the key in the door. James Young was in the room when I entered, or came in with his counsel, from an adjoining room, a few minutes afterwards. Some short time after, the Recorder |i,rrived, and proposed to examine me. I declined, and claimed counsel ; this h e t>aid I had no right to ; that I was a witness. Eventually, and when it was found that I would not submit to an examination, one of the officers was aliowed to carry a note to Mr. J. Prescott Hall. Mr. Hall came up about three o'clock. J told him that I had refused to be sworn : he said that I had done right ; but declined acting as my counsel, as he was on the whig congrsssional ticket. He left, pro- mising to send Ctiarles O'Connor, Esq., or some one else, to me. I think in the pole I wrote Mr. Hall, I enclosed one for Mr. Blalchford, and I had sent one, pre viously, to Mr. O'Cotmor, who could not be found. I know that I felt some ap- prehension after sending the note to Mr. Hall, that the enclosure might be seen, and that I turned to the court, and observed, that I supposed the note to Mr. Hall would not be opened. The Recorder, or District Attorney, aaid, " Oh, no ; to break a seal, is an indictable offence." I was without counsel ; Mr. O'Connor could not be found, and Mr. Hall had not sent any one to me. Mr. Hall in- formed me the next morning, that he stopped at the Club, after leaving me, to find J. Blunt, Esq., and that after unsucassful attempts, he gave it up, supposing that I had myself succeeded. At about eight o'clock, finding that I was still without cousael, I compromised the matter, by an agreement with the court, that I would testify R8 to my perso a.1 knowledge of Mr Young. I had never seen Mr. Young in New York before this time, and I supposed that as his participation in the frauds was confined to I'hiladelphia, he would not be injured by ray examination, which was to be confined to this point. I knew that Young was not in the city of New York during the election in the fall of 1833, and that, therefore, he had no- thing to apprehend. At about nine o'clock, I was allowed to leave, after entering ^nlo a recognizance to appear on the following morning at twelve o'clock. I went 27 to Mr. Draper's; he was out, and I called again, as late as eleven o'clock thai evening, without seeing him. On the following morning, October 21st, I went a- round to Mr. Draper's house to inform and consult with him, about the matter.— While I was at Mr. Draper's door, I saw Mr. Blatchford on the steps of Mr. Tompkins's house, immediately opposite; presently Mr. Draper came out, and see- ing me, they crossed over, and I went v/ith them into Mr. Draper's front parlor. I told them what had taken place, and asked their advise as to how I should act. They said that they were prepared to prove, that their participation in the affair, was only to ptccure persons to come on and identify and prevent the loco-foco j»arty introducing illegal votes ; and to show their understanding of the matter, Mr. Draper produced a copy of a letter, which they said had been sent to me by Ford. Mr. Draper read the copy of the letter, (which is embodied in Mr. Blatch- ford and Mr. Grinneli's examinations, and admitted by Mr. Draper in his exami- nation, and which letter I shall have occasion, not only to refer to, but copy at length in my comments on the affidavits made by them.) I denied ever having re- ceived such a letter ; they laughed and said, that " they had sent it to me ;" but I did not tell them at this time, that I had preserved, and was in possession of the original letter sent to me. I unqualifiedly denied ever having received the letter, a copy of which Mr. Dra- per had then read, and further remarked that such a letter would unquestionably have made an impression upon my mind that I would not have very soon forgotten. They insisted that it had been sent, and said " if I had not received it, it must have gone into the dead letter office at Washington." I left them to procure counsel, 'after their repeated promises to stand by and sustain me. I went over to the City Hall, and saw Mr. O'Connor ; he was engaged in a cause. I also saw Mr. J. Prescott Hall ; he explained why he had not sent some one to me the previous afternoon, and suggested one or two that I had better employ, and I think Mr. A. Crist was named either by him or Messrs. Blatchford or Draper previoHsly. Mr. Hall informed me that there were several gentlemen at his house the night be- fore in reference to this business; that if I accused these gentlemen, (meaning Blatchford, Draper, Bowen, &;c.) " they would all swear through," and that their standing and numbers would completely destroy any statement I might make, or to this efTect. At about one o'clock on this day, 2l3t October, 1840, I went to Mr. Blatchford's office in company with Mr. Crist. Edward Curtis, Og- den Hoffman, Moses H. Grinnell, James Bowen, Simeon Draper, Jr., R. M. Blatchford and Noah Cook were there. Mr. Curtis took me aside, and, after some conversation, advised me to go and see Mr. Benedict, and associate him with Mr. Crist as my counsel. Before going to Mr. Blatchford's office, Mr. Crist and myself went to the Alms House, and waited until half past twelve o'clock, and none of the court appearing, we left. I returned with Mr. Crist from Mr. Blatch^ ford's office, and found Mr. Justice Matsell and the District Attorney. (On our ■way up, I stopped and saw Mr. Benedict; he promised to come, as Mr. Crist had business at Brooklyn, and was obliged to leave. ) After some inquiries by Mr. Crist, after reading my affidavit and other papers, he informed me that I was at Hberty to leave the room, that there was no authority to detain me. I took my hat and succeeded in getting out of the room, and was arrested in the passage way by an • officer, who was placed there undoubtedly to prevent my egress. I came into the room again and ascertained that I was arrested on a warrant; that James Yoilflg^ of Philadelphia, had turned states' evidence, and made an affidavit directly char-*^ ging these frauds upon me. And I subsequently learned that Young had been ab lowed to return tu Philadelphia without bail for his appearance, this being the stip' ulation made for him by his counsel. The District Attorney now proposed to ex- amine Mr. Stevenson as complainant against me. Mr. Stevenson said that he would not make the complaint against me ; that he " would rather lie and rot in the Tombs first," — (this, I think, was in reply to Mr. Whiting's remark, that he would coerce him to testify) — that no power under Heaven would compel him to make the complaint." In this state of things, the District Attorney determined to make the affidavit of Young the ground of complaint, and to examine Mr. Steven- son to corroborate the same. The District Attorney now proposed my examina- tion, and in reply to all the interrogatories that were put to me, I declined an an- swer, by the advice of my counsel, Messrs. Crist and Benedict. At about three o'clock I was allowed, @n my parole of honor, to leave for an hour to take my din- ner. On my return, at four o'clock, I found no member of the court present, but was informed by an officer that they were at dinner in a room opposite. 1 went in and reported myself; the District Attorney, Justice Matsell and Mr. Stevenson were at the table ; they asked me to sit down with them at the table, and I accep- ted the invitation. On the re-assembling of the Court, the District Attorney gave notice that he would oppose my being admitted to bail on authority. The Recorder, who had been absent, having arrived, desired to have time to consult the authorities, and admitted me to bail for my appearance on Saturday morning, at eleven o'clock. I was bailed at about ten o'clock at night, by Mr. Robert B. Coleman, and Mr. Charles A. Stetson, of the Astor House — myself in five thousand dollars, and e^ch of them in twenty-five hundred dollars. This bail was furnished, without any so- licitation on my part, by Mr. Edward Curtis. On Saturday morning, the 24th of October, 1840, I attended, with my Counsel, at eleven o'clock, A. M. At about half-past one o'clock, the Recorder having arrived, he expressed himself ready to hear the argument as to the question of bail. This my Counsel declined, and claimed that I should be admitted to bail as a matter of right. The Recorder, after consultation with the District Attorney and Justice Matsell, determined to receive bail in the sum of ten thousand dollars — five thousand dollars for myself, and two- sureties each in twenty-five hundred dollars. This was objected to, by my Coun- sel, ya excessive, as the alleged offence was only a misdemeanor, and the penalty for which was " a fine of two hundred and fifty dollars, or imprisonment in the counlyjail." " Well then," said the Recorder, " I will commit him — I am not afraid to take the responsibility." A commitment was accordingly made ont, and I was placed in the custody of an officer. Mr. Benedict and Crist accompanied me to the City Prison. T went into the office of the keeper. Mr. Benedict left me for a few moments for aCommis-ioner. He had, before the commitment was made, the papers prepared to sue out a writ of hahea* corpus. Mr. Benedict res turned with a Mr. Dougherty, a Commissioner; the papers were taken out of Mr. Benedict's hat, and thrown on the keeper's desk, and he and Mr. Crist directed me to sign my name, I think in two places, which I did. I had never read thepa- p«r8, but relied entirely upon my Counsel, having confidence in them. I liad pr©% Viously, and at the time I called on Mr. Benedict frankly told him, that the chargoff against m9 were true. I supposed that there were printed forms employed in cas ses of habeas corpus, instead of which I have reason now to believe that the pas pers I signed were purposely prepared to entrap me, and that it was done under the advisement of others. Messrs. Crist and Benedict were in constant commas nication with Mr. Edward Curtis, and others of the party, who met at Mr. Curtis's rooms nightly during the progress of these investigations. I do not consider myself as- having committed any moral wrong, in swearing to the affidavit thus prepared for me. I was imposed upon, never entertaining the most distant idea that my counsel, one of whom was made acquainted witb my participatioQ in these frauds, would, from political considerations alone, lend themselves to an artifice to exact from me an indirect denial of what I had admitted in my examination, and which one of them, at least, knew I coald not be induced to deny. That these plans were considered, and matured by oth- ers, admits scarcely of a doubt — the sequel will shew if my suspicions were groundless. The habeas corpus was perfected; my counsel accompanied me with the officer to .Judge Lynch ; he had previously received intimation to remain at his office. — The Judge was there ; the District Attorney was sent for ; he came, and claimed a certain time to prepare himself on the leturn of the writ of habeas corpus. My counsel appeared to be ignorant that he was entitled to this time, as a matter of right. The Tuesday following was appointed by Judge Lynch to hear the argu- ments ; neither of my counsel attended, the arguinent was not made, and the matter remained precisely as it was before the writ was sued out. I was com- pelled to renew my bail, in the same amounts as I had before given. I was kept in the custody of an officer, during the whole of this time, and until nearly nina o'clock on a Saturday night. I sent repeatedly to Mr. Stetson, stating my situa- tion, and to Mr. Curtis. My counsel left me early in the afternoon. At about eight o'clock. Judge Lynch accompanied me to my rooms, at the Astor House, to provide my bail. Isaw Mr. Stetson; he raised objectioas that if he did so, he would vitiate his agreement with his partner, and one of them was absent, &c. &c. He would do nothing without Mr. Curtis's advice, who was his counsel. I saw Mr. Curtis, and he said, that he would attend to it ; and I also sent a friend for Mr. Pearce, who came down immediately. Mr. Pearce and Charles A, Stetson became my bail, each in twenty^five hundred dollars, and my own recognizance was taken for five thousand dollars. Mr. Edward Curtis accompanied Mr. Stetson to Judge Lynch's office. I was from the commencement opposed to this matter of habeas corpus. I strenuously resisted it, but was overruled by my counsel. The amount of bail was of no moment to me; that bail I well knew must be provided. What was the necessity to outrage mj feelings, and the feelings of my family, by this course, on the part of my counsel 1 The persons who had become my bail were satisfied to remain so. Why was I subjected to this mortification ? I am perfectly satisfied from these facts, and the additional reason, that one of my coun- sel was suggested by Mr. Curtis, that he and others had them under their entire control. My bail, as far as Mr. Stetson was concerned, was arranged by Mr. Curtis, through Mr. Crist, and his clerk, or partner in the first instance. My counsel were in constant communication with Mr. Curtis and others, at his rooms. 39 Tbey could not move without prompting. Did they consider themselves as my Counsel, or as the counsel of the parties, who it was charged participated in these frauds ? Are the papers invariably employed in this city by counsel to sue eut th6 writ of habeas corpus printed forms ? If so, why the necessity of annexing any thing more ? Comment is unnecessary ; the reason is obvious on its very face. On the morning of the 22d of October, 1840, Mr. Edward Curtis then a mem- ber of Congress from the city of New York, now the Collector of the Port, called on me at my rooms, at the Astor House. After some considerable conversation on the subject of these frauds, and of the charges then understood to have been made by Mr. Stevenson, he requested me to make an affidavit, to counteract any in- jurious consequences that might result frorn these disclosures. / told him that t could not do it : that the charges made by Mr. Stevenson were, in the main facts, correct ; and that the information he had received from me, in relation to these frauds, was for the purpose ef securing my re-appointthent as Tobacco In- spector, an object in vphich he, as owner of the warehouse, had an interest in ef- fecting. I alluded to the persecutions of some of my political friends. Mr. Curtis re- marked that he understood my position. On leaving, he asked me to come to his rooms. General George S. Doughty was present in my' room, and also in Mr. Curtis's room, with Mr. Bowen and Mr. Blatchford. Mr. Curtis produced an affidavit, v;hich he read, and which he wished me to sign. I objected to signing it, OB the ground that it was untrue, and gave a false coloring to the transaction. Mr. Curtis replied, "I know your position. Do you think I would suffer you to make an affidavit, unless i^ was sufficiently guarded.''^ I read the affidavit over, and again repeated my objection. Mr. Curtis replied with some warmth, "Iknovf halo you stand; I know all about it; it is special pleading.'^ This is th- lan- guage, as near as I now recollect, and certainly the substance of the conversation that then and there passed. I considered Mr. Curtis as my counsel. I had, although it was a matter of su- pererogation, told him of my active participation in these frauds. I signed the paper. Mr. Blatchford, Mr. Bowen and myself, had a good deal of conversation together. I expressed my regret that I had ever accepted office. I directed Mr. Bowen's attention to the fact of his having called on me after the result of the election'was known in the fall of the year 1838, at my store, in Broad street, and: asking me if I wanted any office, and that I declined, and said, that all I had to ask of my party friends was, that they would direct their business in my way. er to' this efiect. I also told Mr. Blatchford what Dr. Samuel R. Childs had said ; which he un- qualifiedly denied. [This matter will be stated hereafter.] I accompanied Mr. Curtis to a commissioner's in Nassau street. On the way, I again expressed my- self as not being perfectly satisfied, and said to Mr. Curtis, " don't suffer me to d4 tkii, unless it is all right.^' He again replied, " I understand your position, it is all right." At this time, I was under great excitement, and, therefore, did not examine the affidavit as particularly, as under other circumstances I would have done. And that coupled with the confidence I had in the gentlemen in Mr. Cur- tis's room, and in his counsel, induced tne to make the affidavit. The next morning, having become satisfied that I had been deceired in relation SI to the bearing of this affidav.t, I called on Mr. Curtia, and told him that it wa« wrong, and that my name must be taken from it. Mr. Curtis thea took the affida- vit from his pocket, and tore my name from it. In a short time afterwardis I again called en Mr. Curtis, and insisted on a return of the affidavit. Mr. Curtis took it from his pocket, and, with considerable warmth, tore it into pieces and handed it to me. The original affidavit, in the hand-writing of Mr. Curtis, is under my con- trol. There are other circumstances connected with this affidavit that place Mr. Curtis in no very enviable Hght. It was previously prepared and I think before Mr. Curtis's interview with me ; and the evidence of the fact is, that Mr. Curtis, and the parties who prepared it, were ignorant of the christiac-name of Mr. Pearce, and left it in blank ; aad af- terwards, when I informed them, he inserted it. 1 have, within a few weeks, been informed, (and I believe that I can sustain the fact by good and substantial evi- dence,) that after I had objected to signing this affidavit, on the ground* before named, one of the gentlemen present remonstrated, and objected to anything fur- ther being said to induce me to sign it; that Mr. Curtis replied, " Why, damn him, if he will swear to it, let kim.'^ Again, only a few weeks since, as recently as the 12th instant, in recurring to this interview in a conversation with General Doughty, (who, it will be remembered, was present at Mr. Curtis's room at the time) he said that he recollected that I objected to a certain expression, or sen- tence, and wished it altered or qualified, and that Mr. Curtis altered it; but that, instead of qualifying, he thought it rather strengthened it. I have no comment to make. It is not my purpose to assail, or to gratify any personal feeling. They could not induce me to deny the general accuracy of Mr. Stevenson's charges. I knew myself guilty of participation in those frauds, and I have no he- sitation in saying, that at this time, if I had been so lost to all moral obligation as to have resigned myself and conscience into the keeping of Mr. Curtis, and my supposed friends, that I would not only have been sustained in my office, but that I would have been restored to the confidence of Governor Seward, and the leaders of tho party ; that anything would have been conceded to me. But I could not bring my mind to add to the deep damnation that already encompassed me, by an act that would not only have forever forfeited my own self-esteem, but the respect of those whom I was then desirous to screen, but not at such cost. It is true, that I looked at the alternative. I saw myself dragged forth to the brink of a precipice, to he crushed with the weight of public od.ium. I saw the arrows of a fierce and malignant persecution concentrate on my head alone, as the master- spirit of the crime. I saw myself, in prospective, stripped of office, my family beggared, and my name and character about to be stigmatised with disgrace. I con- fess that I was staggered by the appalling abyss in which I alone was to be engulph- ed. Still, I could not be induced to swerve from what I considered to be right. No other sentiment than that of honorable devotion to the.-je men and the party, governed my conduct. How these sacrifices — how the misery I have endured for more than a year past, were appreciated, and have been repaid, the public already know. On the 23d day of October, 1840, I had another interview with Mr. Edward Curtis, at his rooms at the Astor House, at which interview I gave him the facts (Connected with my visit at Mr. Jesse Hoyt's house. I was desirous to regain 3» possession of the receipts, memoranda, Sec. &c., and to prevent any further agita- lion of the matter. This I thought could be effected, as whatever information had been communicated by JNIr, Stevenson, was corcm.unicated,. as I understood, on a pledge of honor, not to be used unless my consent was first obtained ; and I have no doubt, so far as the agitation of these frauds were concerned, that but for the appearance of Mr. James Young, and his arrest, that the knowledge Mr. Ste- venson and others were in possession of, would not have transpired, at least at that time. It was argued that my indiscretion had brought the Whig party to this ex- tremity, and that I ought to do all I could to relieve them, and counteract the statement of Mr. Stevenson, then published for the first time in the papers of that morning. Colonel Hamilton, Mr. Curtis, and myself, were the only persons pre- ■sent. I stated the facts, and Mr. Curtis commenced v/riting an affidavit. This af- fidavit was taken before J. O. Pirsson, Commissioner of Deeds, on the 23d day of October, 1840, and has been extensively published. In the commencement of this affidavit the following sentence occurs : "That within the last thirty days, at different times and places, in the city of New-York, he has been applied to, by Jonathan D. Stevenson, Benjamin F. Butler, United States District Attorney, Jesse Hoyt, Collector, and John W. Edmonds, to make statements that should implicate Governor Seward, and the leading friends of the Governor in New- York, in a charge of having countenanced frauds at the election in New-York, in the year 1838." When this sentence was read over by Mr. Curtis, I stated that I had never been applied to by them, (meaning Messrs. Butler, Hoyt and Edmonds) to make implications, or received from them any assurances that I should be appoint- ed to office if they were made. Mr. Curtis then replied: " Vou do not swear ^ they all applied to yon; it is sufficient that Stevenson has." This was the precise language I think Mr. Curtis used; it is certainly the substance. On receiving this explanation, I signed the affidavit, and, accompanied by Mr. Curtis, went to the office of the Commissioner. Pre\aous, however, to which, before.Ieav- ing the Astor House, Mr. Curtis opened the room adjoining his rooms, and called Hugh Maxwell, Esq. out, and sa:d: " Mr. Maxtoell, I want you to witness thai this affidavit is made without any promise of reward to Mr. Glentworth." I think that there were in the room from which Mr. Maxwell was called, many of the lead- ing members of the Whig party from Albany, and from different parts of the state, who were congregated there on this business. W^hen I was first solicited to make this affidavit, I declined peremptorily doing anything. I had determined to wait the action of others, and to be governed accordingly, and to remain perfectly quiet; and it was only at the solicitation referred to, and with a pledge from Mr. Curtis, and that pledge made to another, that I should not be sacrificed, that I should be sustained, that I consented to make it. But had I understood its legal bearing I would not have done it. How that pledge has been redeemed, the sequel will show. At about seven o'clock in the evening of this day, Colonel J. Watson Webb cal- led on me at my rooms, and requested me to place my name to a printed proof of the affidavit made on that morning. I did not read it over, and had no means of comparing it with the original, which was in possession of Mr. Curtis. About the 20th November, 1840, I sent word to Mr. Bowen, having heard that fa« had just returned from Albany, that I wished to see him. He came on the next 83 ^ay at tbout a quatfer before three o'clock, P. M., and said ihat he had not re* teived my message in time for him to call. (At this time Mr. Bowen was residing about nine miles from the city — he subsequently took up his residence at the As- ter House*) He said that he had seen the Governor during his recent visit at Al- bany, and that he laughed a good deal at (what he termed) the conspiracy ; that he had said nothing about displacing me. Mn Bowen remarked that he had no Opportunity to speak to the Governor, or to know his views on this subject ; and •aid, " of course you want to hold on to your ojffice." I replied that I did; that I had suffered enough already, and that they were bound in honor to sustain me, oi^ to this effect. He said that he had alvvays been a warm friend of mine, and that he had used his influence in my favor when an attempt was made to remove mb last winter* He advised me to remain perfectly quiet, and if there was fifty neceSN sity to move, Mr. Draper or himself would see me. Something was said about thfe letter Mr. Havens brought on ; that Draper had told him that I had the letter,flind that it was written by him. This he disclaimed, and said that he had nothing to do with the operation in the spring of 1839. He said that Mr. Havens had cal- led upon him for the funds, and to ask instructions, and that he had told him that he had nothing to do with it ; and that Havens had also called on Mr. Blatchford for the same purpose. I informed him that Mr. Draper had misunderstood me ; that I had in no way connected him with the affair in 1839, or Mr. Havens ; that the letter in my possession was the one from him sent on by Mr. Ford to me at PhiN ftdelphia. " Yes, but that was in '38/' was his reply — " the one that Blatchford, ^rinnell and Draper refer to." Oh no, said I, I mean the letter that Ford Actually brought on, and not the Copy of a letter read by Mr. Blatchford and oth» ers. I also informed him that Mr. Draper, a few days previously, had admitted to me that he was not certain whether this letter was sent by Ford or by mail.— I told him that I had another person in my power. He replied, " Oh yes, but let him alone and keep quiet." This he enjoined upon me repeatedly during our in- terview. I called his attention to a call of a meeting of merchants, traders, &c. ice. in the papers of that morning, at the Second Ward Hotel, for the purpose of recommending a suitable person for Tobacco Inspector. He said that he had seen ft, and that it was a loco feco movement. Efforts were first mado to indict me, before the Grand Inquest, at the Novem- ber term> and failed ; the charges were thrown out. During this period, I was in frequent communication with Mr. Curtis and the parties- who were charged with participation in these frauds. Another attempt was made to indict me at the De- cember term, and failed. I had several interviews and conversations with some ©f the members of the Grand Jury. I received a note from one of the members of the Grand Jury, which note I subsequently showed to Alderman Egbert Benson, at my rooms, and he asked me to allow him to destroy it, which I acceded to. I iiave seen a member of the Grand Jury repeatedly go into Mr. Curtis's room, and have received a visit, at my rooms, from another member, who was an entire stran- ger to me. On Thursday evening, the 12th November, 1840, I met Mr. Blatchford and Mr. Draper in Broadway, near the corner of Warren street, at about 6 o'clock. They ■poke famiharly to me, and we crossed the street, and, after a few minutes co«- ▼ersatioD, went into the Park, to avoid, I suppose, observation. A good deal of 5 34 Conversation took place between us. I informed them that I had started ilpoft a legitimate proposition, and whatever I had said to Mr. Stevenson was done with a view of strengthening myself in reference to my re-appointment. I adverted to the persecutions I had experienced from Mr. Wetmore and some of his friends; that Mr. Stevenson did not receive his information of my participation in these frauds, in the first instance, from me; that the onus of divulging the confidential operations of the party rested upon the person ©r persons who first gave Mr. Stevenson thia information, eighteen months previously. They both expressed their friendship for me, and desire and determination to stand by me. Mr. Blatchford told me that he had seen Dr. Samuel R. Childs, and had asked him if he (Mr. Blatchford) had ever said that I ought to be removed from office, or spoken disparagingly of me; or if he (Mr. Blatchford) had ever said to him, in reply to the remark of Dr. Childs, " that I would bloio the whole of them to the devil, let him do it as soon as he pleases," or to this effect — and that Dr. Childs denied ever having given me this information. (I had mentioned this matter to Mr. Blatchford a few days previously, I think in Mr. Curtis's parlor.) Whether Dr. Childs abricated the story, (as there was not, from what he said to me, any very kind tellings existing between him. Governor Seward, and the Governor's confidential friends, in refer- ence to the management which prevented his appointment as Health Officer,) or whether it was true in all its parts, I do not pretend to say. The question of vera- city is between them. Mr. Draper appeared to have forgotten all about the cir- cumstances. He asked me whether it was a check or draft he gave me on Mr. Gill, of Philadelphia. I replied direct to this question ; but when he aaked me, " did I not swear correct or true in my affidavit,'' I made no reply, but turned his attention to some other circumstance, and thus parried his question several times. Mr. Blatchford remarked, that the first impression was that there was colLsioa between Mr. Stevenson and myself, and went on to say, " but when ikey saw the atand J made, and firmness I evinced during the investigations, they were sat- isfied that I was true.^^ Mr. Blatchford repeatedly said, " why, we have stood by you; hav'nt we carried you right through," (alluding to their examinations before the Recorder.) Mr. Blatchford said that he would never forgive, if he were in my place, Mr. Hall, for deserting me at a time when I so much required counsel and support, or to this effect. They both repeatedly assured me of their kind feelings towards me, and «l the confidence they felt that I would never act a traitor's part towards them or the party. Just as we were parting, and in reply to a remark that jwas made in reference to Mr. Hall's deserting me, Mr. Blatchford said :— " You understand why we have not come forward and keen with you." I re** plied, of course, that I did ; that it would not have done for them to have been seen with me, and that I was satisfied. In going out of the gate, Mr. Blatchford said : " If we do not come to see you, the same reasons still operate to prevent us." And Mr. Draper replied: " Why, if you want to see us, yoa can send a note." I said that I would, and we parted. During this conversation, some facts were adn verted to by me of an entire personal character, and which have no reference to these frauds. While we stood talking in the I'ark, near the Warren street gate, Mr. Thurlow Weed, and Mr. Spencrr Benedict, of Albany, (on their way througlj I he Park to the Court, to attend, as one of them said. Captain Stephen Roe's trial or running the steamboat Dc Witt Clinton into the Nai)oleon,) stopped a moment. 35 and spoke to Messra. Blatchford and Draper. I do not know that they recognized me: it Wis quite dark. On Saturday, the 14th November, 1840, I met Mr. Draper, in company with Mr. Sidney Brooks, in the hall of the Astor House. I spoke to them, and asked Mr. Draper to come up in my parlor and see me, which he did in a few minutes afterwards, I told him that 1 had received a note, which I read to him, from Mr. Pearce, declining any further advances to me. I said that it would be uses less for me to hold the office for the remainder of the term, unless I realized some advantage from it. Ke said that the papers v/ere assailing Governor Seward, and charging him with being afraid to remove me; that appearances, and public opin- ion, might require a change. I asked him if he thought it practicable for me to secure a part of the income of the office by resigning. He said that he thought some arrangement might be made, so soon as the person was determined upon, but that he must have nothing to do with the term j ; we must manage that our- selves. I named Alderman Benson; Mr. Draper was very much taken with it. Something was said, that a person who had been charged with participation in these frauds, but particularly in the frauds of the year 1839, denied all agency or knowledge of the affair. I told Mr. Draper that I should like that person to call at my rooms, and that I would refresh his memory, or have a talk with him, and satisfy him that I had the means to fix it upon him conclusively. He replied : I wish to God you could ; but it will not do." During the day, (Saturday, November 14th,) Mr. Draper left word with Mr. Samuel Coleman that he would call on me, at my rooms, at seven o'clock. He ■called at the time stated, and expressed a wish that before he moved in the mat- ter we had conversed about in the morning, to see the papers I had in my posses- sion relating to the frauds. He ssked if I had any objection to his seeing them ; if so, that they might be examined by some other person. That they would not ask that the papers should be taken from my custody, or burnt, until every thing was arranged to my entire satisfaction, and until whatever it was agreed I should re- ceive from the office, was secured to me by notes or in some other way. That the person selected £o fill my place, when approached, might be restive, and think that he could get the whole office, and that it should be secured beforehand. I told him that the papers were in Colonel Hamilton's possession for safe keeping. He inquired if they were sealed. 1 said yes. He did not wish Colonel Hamilton to know any thing about his seeing me, and said if I wanted him to do any thing I must treat him with confidence and frankness. In reply to his remark that the letter he and others swore to was sent to me by Ford, I told him (as I had previously done in presence of Mr. Blatchford, at his house, the morning after my being subpoenaed, and when he read what he said was a copy of a letter sent tome by Ford, that " I had never received that letter, and that I then heard it read for the first time,") — the letter sent to me by Ford was still in my possession. He ap- peared desirous that I should get the papers the next day. I told him no, for Co- lonel Hamilton will suspect something. It was then proposed that I should defer it for a few days, and that when I was ready, and wished to see him, I could write a note to him. After leaving the parlor, and when he got near the stairs, he came back . I stood in the door, and he cautioned mc to keep the matter from Colonel Hamilten. One reason assigned by Mr. Draper during this conversation, was that Celonel Hamilton disliked hira. He said that on a recent occasion, when 36 Colonel HamiltoH came into the room, where some of our paity friencla were consulting, (at the Astor House, during the investigation before the Recorder,) he, Mr, Draper, had treated Colonel Hamilton roughly, because he insinuated that he knew of our participation in these frauds. On the 25th of November. 1840, I sent a note to Mr. Draper, asking him to call at my rooms. I was desirous to see him, having received a note from one of the grand jurors, (which note was subsequently burnt by my consent, by Mr. Ben- son,) and being informed that there was some apprehension that I would be in- dicted. Mr. Draper called, aad when I informed him of what I had learnt, ha tol,d me that he had seen Mr. Richard Mount, and that he would send up some persons, who would impeach Mr. Stevenson. Mr. Draper, during this interview^ alluded to my resigning ; that I could do something now, but that in a short tiipp I would find myself in a situation were I could make no arrangement. He pro- posed my seeing Mr. Edward Curtis, provided I was disposed to resign. I as- sented to see Mr. Edward Curtis. In the evening at about seven o'clock, Mr. Ed- ward Curtis came to my parlor; part of my family were in the room at the time ; after they went out, Mr. Curtis asked me, if I was prepared to make the arranger ment. " Were are the papers?^' I replied, in Colonel Hamilton's charge. — " Then you can do nothing vnless you have them." He desired to know my views. I said that I was disposed to resign, provided a certain amount could be secured to me. That I would take the receipts from the storage, or refuse tobap- co. He said, "no; whatever is given, must be given out and out, for your unex- pired term." I asked him if he had any idea of the emoluments of the office. He said, *• oh yes ; some seven or eight thousand dollars a year." I replied that it was worth more. After some considerable conversation and parleying, he made me a distinct offer of two thousand dollars, which 1 declined. He then said, " why, that is equal to eight thousand dollars a year, for you have but about two months of your term," or to this effect. It is all you can get ; it is the ultimatum." Oi\ leaving, he said, " it is of no use io see me again, unless you acceed to my pro- position ; and after to-morrotc morning you may consider it at an end, for if 1 were to offer you four thousand dollars, Colonel Hamilton would tell you not io take less than eight thousand dollars." During this conversation Mr. Curtis alluded to an afBdavit sent to Governor Seward. He said, " so you have been making an affidavi'." I replied, that I had not; it was made by Mr. Stevenson. Mr. Curtis said that the Governor had not received it. Mr, Curtis also alladed to n?y threatening the parties implicated in these frauds. This I denied. But you have suid that you have papers, &c., showing their participation. I replied that I may have said bo, and that it was true. " But you have no letters." said I^r. Curtis, " Oh yes, I have, and, among others, the very letter, Mr. Ford l)rought on to me." The other, said to have been sent, I never received, and know nothing about, it Tho original letter I- have is written by Mr. Bovven . Allusion was m^de to the frauds of 1839, and the active participation of others referred tp by me, the circumstances under which I consented, and the stipulations made, be- fore I would have anything to do with it. Mr. Curtis's reply to all this was, " But you won't be believed." I then said that I thanked God that it did not depend alone upon my declarations, and that I had evidcnca sufficient to substantiate all I might charge. In thufl refusing Mr Curtis's offer of two thousand dollars for my papers, let not 37 iy*y morives be impagned as mercenary ; let it not be supposed that I was in tbe narket, ready to be purchased up by either or any party that would give the most Tor them. Those documents were all I possessed to prove the intimate participa- :ion of others in these discreditable transactions. They were the only means left me to relieve myself of at least a part of the odium that otherwise would have at* tached itself to my name, and thus have affected my children. And it was, and has always been my determination, when the time arrived — when, with honor, a proper regard to my personal safety, and when party feeling and strife had subsid- ed, and given place to cool, deliberate reflection, to lay before the public these doC"» uments and narratives. I have now done so, without the interference or solicita^ lion of others. It is my own act, uninfluenced by any one. 1 have neither asked, or received any favor or gratuity. I present them as a matter of justice to the people, and throw myself on their intelligence and generosity, assured, in my own miad, that they will accord to these pages a candid perusal. After the conversation last alluded to, with Mr. Curtis, on the same evening, at about eight o'clock, I saw Mr. Caleb Little, a member of the Grand Jury, Mr. Mount and Mr. Brooks, of the Express, together, in the rotunda of the Astor House, in conversation. Mr. Mount informed me that some persons would go before the Grand Jury, the next morning, to impeach Mr. Stevenson. This I knew could not be done: his standing and integrity as an honorable and high'* minded man, would protect him from any successful attack ef that character. On Thursday morning, December 23d, 1840, I was in the reading room of the KstoT House, looking over the Albany Evening Journal. Doctor John S. Bow- •on came up. and said : " Fow do you do, Glentworth ?" I replied, " Why, dec- or, how is it that you speak so familiarly to me now, when, fer tbe last three months, you have scarcely recognised me ?" He replied: " Why, I thougbt you meant to injure the party; if you had svfferedthe others to meet what they de- terve, you would have done right." We had a good deal of conversation about my being persecuted on all sides, and about my position not being understood by the public. He went on to say : " Why, don't you recollect my being at Masonic Hall during one of the days of the electian, in the spring of 1839? [ wanted to see a member of the Assembly, and was told down town that I would find him at Masonic Hall. I wanted him to take charge of a letter to Mr. Penrose, (I think this is the name, but am not positive.) I stopped on my way home, saw Noah Cook and yourself, and saw him change coats with a man." In reply to the quess tion, "Doctor, did you see me interfere, or do anything?" he said, "No; but I heard you ask a man who was there,— one of the voters, — where are you from? He said from Albany. You replied : damn it, you must not say io — you must not answer so." In about ten minutes after this conversation, I left the room, leaving Doctor Bowron engaged reading the papers. I called Doctor Peter S. Townsend, who was in conversation vfhh some gentlemen at the north window, in the main OBtry. As we wera conversing, and just as we reached the door of the reading room. Doctor Bowron came out, and spoke to Doctor Townsend. He asked him "what kind of a man Reuben Bromley was. Doctor Townsend made a reply unfa- vorable to his character, and went on to show his conduct in reference to the Sea- man's Retreat. A good deal of conversation passed between them, immaterial to th« matter for which this statement is made. During one of the pauses in the ■wnversatioD, I said : " Why, Doctor Townsend^ Doctor Bowronhasjuit inform' td me that Ad saw Noah Cook change his coat with a man, in the private eofi^ mittee room, at Masonic Hall, during one of the days of the election in the Spring of I detailed the remainder ofthe remarks of Dr. Bowron,allof which he admitted, but urged Doctor Towusend and myself to consider it as confidential. Afler Doctor Bowron left, I requested Doctor Tovvnsend to make a memorandum ofthe conversation, which he desired me to do, and he would sign it. I immedi- ately reduced to writing the facts as they occurred, which were read to Doctor Townsend, and approved of by him. In the early part of the month of January, 1841, I had several interviews with Messrs. Bowen and Draper. The ffjrmer had recently returned from a visit to Albany. About this time, there were rumors of the appointment of Mr. Egborl Benson as Tobacco Inspector, published in the papers. On reading the article, I, went immediately to Mr. Bowen and informed him of it. He did not appear sur- prised, but advised ray seeing Mr. Benson at once. I went around and met Mr. B«nson on his steps, and asked him if he had been appointed, He thought not, and that the announcement was premature. He said that his name would go, or had gone, in to the Senate for confirmation the day before. He informed me that he was just coming to see me, and that he would be with ine soon. In about ten minutes he called ; we had considerable conversation in my room. He wanted to know my views. I told him that Mr. Charles A. Stetson, some short time pre>» Vious, had said that I ought to make them give me fifteen or twenty thousand dol- lars, to commence business again. Mr. Benson appeared perfectly astounded when I mentioned so large an amount ; but regained his Composure, when I in- formed him that I would be content to receive the receipts for either the storage, or refuse tobacco. I told him that I had first named him to Messrs. Bowen and Draper, with a view of securing to myself something from the office. He said, that it would not do for me to have any interest then, but that he would sef in tho course of a few days what arrangements could be made. He informed me that his affairs were embarrassed. I said to him distinctly, that I did not wish this matter to be considered a gratuity. That it was nothing more than what I wai* equitably entitled to. He said, " whatever is done, must be considered for your xinescpired term, or for the information you may furnish me with inreference to ihe management of the inspeclio.i.''^ I assented to this proposition, regarding it as a mere subterfuge to shield others, and to be used in case any allusion was subsequently made of the connection between Mr. Benson and myself. Ho was very facetiaus, and laughed at the idea of my being indicted. The cloven foot Boon shewed itself. He wanted to have a look at my papers. A previous at- tempt, after it was known that the Recorder had not obtained all the papers, had been made te ascertain the character of those remaining in my possession, or un- der my control. I showed Mr. Benson some of the papers which had but just then been returned into my possession. He made a good many grimaces, and appeared astoundexi at their contents. He was very eager to get them into his keeping, and said, " you ought to seal them up, and give them into the possession of some one. Will you have any objection to let me have Iheml" I said, why certainly I have ; they cannot go out of my possession. He then wanted to know if I would consent to destroy or burn Ihcm, after the arrangement was consummated. I said that I would. It was at this interview, I think, that I showed him a note thai I had received from a member of tho grand jury. He said, " why don'l yo« 35 destroy k 7 You do not want to injure, or impKcate hitn ; let me burn k."— I told him to do so, and he threw it into the fire. He urged me repeatedly to seal my papers, and not to suffer them to be seen. He left, promising to call and see me again, very differently impressed as to my power prove the participation 'of those whose agent I considered him. He called the next morning, and appeared to be willing to do all that he could ; but said that he was embarrassed, and had but very little funds. He expressed anxiety about the papers ; urged me to be careful, and not to suffer any one to see them : to seal them up. That they had better be destroyed; and again made an offer to take care of them for me, sub- ject, I think he said, to my control, which I declined. He thought that I had better go away for some time. That the charter election was approaching, and the whole matter would be enacted over again in the papers. New Orleans and other places were mentioned. He also stated that he might raise two thousand dollars, which he would furnish me with, and arrangements might be made for mo to draw one thousand dollars more, if I required it. It will be borne in mind, that there were no indictments against me at this time. Two grand juries had thrown out the charge. Another grand jury, the foreman of which was a leading \vhig, was then occupied with this investigation, and a similar issue was confident- ly looked for. At this interview I told Mr. Benson that I required a few hundred dollars for my immediate expenses. He said that he would hand it to me. He brought me a part of the money that evening, and tiie residue in a few days after- wards. On the 12th of January, 1341, a supersedeas was served upon me, by Nathaniel Jarvis, Clerk of the city and county of New York. On the 26 th of January, the grand inquest found seven bills of indictment against me. I saw Mr. Benson that morning; he informed me that he was apprehensive thatthegrand jury would indicS toe. He assured me, however; that the engagements he had made with me would not be effected by this result, and that the amount he had named, should be secur- ed. He subsequently repeatedly gave me the same assurances. He urged upon me the necessity to keep perfecly quiet ; to converse with no one on the subject — and that I had nothing to fear from the indictments, as they could not be sustain- ed. By the mail of this day I addressed a letter to Mr. Edward Curtis, then a member of Congress from the city of New York, and now the Collector of the Port, x)f which the following is a copy : New York, January 26, 1841. Sir — t have this moment learned from Alderman Benson, that the Grand Jury, iiow in session, will probably find a bill of indictment against me to-day. He has ihis information from a source that may be relied upon. This result is most unex- pected, and I hasten to inform you of it, from the fact of the interest you have al- ready manifested, and for the additional reason that, being conversant with my po- sition, I may have the advantage of your judgment, and such suggestions as yo« may feel disposed to make. In great haste, your obd't servant, J. B. GLENTWORTH. Hon. Edward Cortis, Washington City. This letter was shown to a friend, and mailed. I received no reply to it< In the evening of this day, I learned from several sources that the Grand Jury had im nlicted me. Aboilt the middle of February I was much embarrassed for funds. Mr. "Aentot bad promised, from time to time, to furnish me with what I required. Day afteV 3ay, and week after week, were these promises renewed and disregarded. Mj patience became exhausted. Immediately after I was indicted I had an interview with Messrs. Blatch' Tord, Bowen and Benson. They were desirous that 1 should employ Mt. tharles O' Connor as my counsel. I had been approached several times, withiri the last few days, on this subject. It was neCfessary that some immediate action, on my part, should be made to secure his services, as I was required, by A notifieation from the District Attorney, to plead to the indictments the following morning. They felt, and could not well conceal, their anxiety. 1 appeared indif- ferent about it. Mr. Benson urged me to go down and employ Mr. O'Connor, and the rhatterof his compensation would all be attended to. I was unwilling ta ttioVe, Unless the money was furnished beforehand, for I had already felt the r«li-* lince to be placed on his promises. I had another object in not moving in the blatter: I was determined that Mr. O'Connor should be seen by some of these par- ties first, so as to afford me additional evidence of their participation in thes^ frauds. At about four o'clock of this afternoon, Mr. Charles A. Stetson met me in the rotunda of the Astor House, and asked me if I had employed counsel, t said that I had not. He remarked that he considered that he had a right to see that I was provided with good counsel, as he was my bail. He asked me to go down and see Mr. O'Connor. I appeared indifferent, and evaded expressing any determination on the subject. A* last — for he could not contain himself longer— * he told me that Mr. O'Connor had been waiting in his office io see me for the last two hours. I asked him how he knew that ; and, after a good deal of pre^ varication, and not till I had peremptorily refused to go, or move in the matUr, un* less Mr. O'Connor had been previously seen and his fee paid, he said thai Blatchford and Bowen had informed him of it, and that everything would be ar« ranged to my satisfaction. A short time after this, I saw Mr. Benson ; he ap- peared very anxious that t should see Mr. O'Connor that afternoon or evening, and gave me every assurance that Mr. O'Connor should be paid, and that he would ata tend to it. But I had made up my mind, and their anxiety confirmed my resolve not to move unle-s they furnished the money. I was not satisfied with promises. Mr. Benson left me for a few minutes, (we stood near the ladies' drawing-room ot the Astor House,) and went into Mr. Bowen's parlor. In a few minutes, they came out, and conversed together. I had on that day, informed Mr. Bowen that I would not move one step, unless Mr. O'Connor was seen before, or the monej' furnished to pay him. Mr. Benson came towards me, and said that he would see Mr. Stetson, and borrow it of him. I said no, that I could borrow it myself; and that I would do so, nrovlded he would hand it, with some other funds I required,' to me, on Monday. This he said he would do; and 1 borrowed one hundred dol- lars of Messrs. Coleman and Stetson. It was handed to me by Mr. Coleman. t went down to Mr. O'Connor's office, in Wall street, and inquired of a gentleman, (whom I have since ascertained was his partner, Mr. E. Derry,) if Mr. O'Connor was in. He informed me that he had been waiting some length of time, but had left shortly before. I told him who 1 was, and inquired if he knew whether Mr. O'- Connor had been seen on my business. He said: " 0/t ycj;" that Mr. Blatch' 41 Jvrd had been with Mr. Cf Connor on that, or the day previous. I returned home. In the evening, I again saw Mr. Benson, and, I think, Messrs. Blatchford and Bowen. Mr. O'Connor had left word with Mr. Derry, that he would see me at nine o'clock the next morning. At the appointed hour I called, and, introdus cing myself, said : " I presume Mr. Blatchford has seen you on my business." He replied, that he could not answer that question; or, that it was not necessary forme to know that ; or to this effect; that he did not desire me to say anything in reference to my participation in these frauds ; that when he required any infor- mation on any point, he would ask it ; that he did not require to be informed of the facts; that the object now was to get rid of the indictments. I left Mr. O'- Connor with the understanding that I would meet him at eleven o'clock, at the Court of Sessions. Mr. O'Connor appeared at that hour, and asked to be furnish* ed with copies of the indictments. He expressed his intention, instead of moving to quash, to demur to the indictments, and went into an argument and explanation of the distinction. It was postponed, with a view to enable Mr. O'Connor to pres pare the necessary papers, &c. &c. I saw Mr. Benson the evening of this day, at the Astor House ; he had promis- ed to leave me some money, but did not do it. I told him that I had still the $100 for Mr. O'Connor; that I had not handed it to him. Mr. Benson told me I could use a part of this, which I could make up from the monies he would hand me on Monday. On Monday I obtained copies of the indictments, and handed them to Mr. O'Connor, and paid him fifty dollars. He informed me that he would expect to receive two hundred dollars more, and that the subsequent charges would de- pend upon the trouble he had ; that he did not wish to practice in the sessions ; and that he had made it a rule never to attend to business in that Ceurt for less than two hundred and fifty dollars. I informed Messrs. Blatchford, Bowen and Benson, of the fee Mr. O'Connor required ; and the latter, who was the manager on these occasions, promised to give me the money to pay him. I was still without the means to pay Mr. O'Connor the balance of his fee and to defray some indebtedness of my own, that I had promised, on the assurance of res ceiving monies from Mr. Benson. In this situation I determined to ask the tavor of a loan from Mr. Bowen. And I wish it to be distinctly understood, that this was the first and only favor that I ever solicited at his or at the hands of either of the parties implicated in these frauds. Independent of Mr. Bowen's declarations, I had repeatedly been informed of his friendly disposition towards me. Among others, Dr. Samuel R. Child s had told me so. I had made erery effort to screen him, and to prevent his name appearing as a participator in these frauds. I cons sidered him a man of honor. The following is a copy of ihe note which I address- ed to him : Tuesday Morning, February 16, 1841. My Dear Sir — You will greatly oblige me with the loan of $350, for a few days I would not ask this favor at your hands, but for the neglect of Mr. Benson in meet* ing his engagement*. Predicated upon assurances from him, I assumed, some few weeks since, a responsibility which I am compelled to meet to-day. Yours, very truly, &c., J. B. GLENTWORTH. Jam£s Bovv£k, Esq. 42 In about an hour after this note was dispatched, Mr. Bei^on came up to see me He was in a perfect fume. He said that Mr. Bowen was quite angry that I had mad© such a request othim. I told him that the necessity on my part, in making, this request, was attributable to the non-performance of his engagements with me. That I could not understand why Mr. Bowen should be angry. I felt indig- nant at the treatment I received, and so expressed myself. Mr. Benson cooled down, and said that it would not do for Mr. Bowen, as he was situated, to com'* ply tvith my request ; but that he would give me what I required, and named, I think, the next day. Mr. Benson's " promises were as thick as blackberyies." I saw Mr. Benson once or twice after this, and it was at each time, a promise, and on the 23rd of February, I addressed a letter to him, of which the following is a copy : AsTOR House, February 23d, 1841. Dear Sir — I regret to address you upon other than an agreeable subject, but there is a " point beyond which forbearance ceases to be a virtue " The repeated violations of your engagem.ents with me, and } our perfect indifference last evening, when informed of the pressing necessity which urged me to importune you, leave me but little to expect in reference to the fulfilment of ulterior assui-ances. You are aware that a part of the funds which I now require, and which you have promised me for the last three weeks, from time to time, to farnish me with, are to liquidate a responsibility incurred at your instance, and that of Mr. Eowen, to employ Mr. O'Connor as ray counsel. On Friday morning last, at your house, you promised to hand me the amount on the following day before three o'clock^ and you called at seven in the morniag to say, (as you inlormed me last evening,) that you could not give it, because Mr. Bowen, who had promised to let you have it, was out of town. In my intercourse with you, I have acted wiih the utmost confidence and candor. I have submitted most of my papers to your inspecvion, and been influenced to a certain extent by your advise; if you desire it, I am now- content that your participation in the premises should cease. Your name, for the appointment you now fill, was first suggested by me to Mr. Bowen, with an understanding that some thing siiould be done to compensate me for my unexpir- ed term, if you please, or for any information or suggestions I might furnish you m relation to the management ol the inspection. There has been but one feeling which has actuated my conduct since the agita- tion of the election frauds of 1833, '39. Although my name has been branded from one extent of the country to the other ; although I have been assailed with a vindictiveness, as unjust as it was uncalled for; although removed from ofl&ce, ruined in a pecuniary point of view, still have I have kept my honor unsullied. I have had the moral courage, under all these circumstances, and when I have seen friend after Iriend desert me, to stand the firmer, to act with honor towards those who had confided in mo ; to remain true to ray party and its interests- 1 will adrait that I may have acted indiscreetly, and that my confidence was abused. — But have I not suHere'd enough already, or are these considerations why one, whom it is conceded, has rendered £l6 much good service as any other in the stale, towards a perfect organization of the whig party, should be hunted down and trodden under fool 7 I am disposed lo let the matter rest, and bear the odium of having, in my zeal for my party, for my country and its best interests, committed a great moral wrong; namely, secured to that party, by my individual exertion nearly, if not quite eighteen hundred voles; returning four members of Congress, 43 the city and county appointments. It is bad policy to agitate the public mind further on this subject. Do not. force me to leave my position. Do not drive me by violation of your pledges to me, to become tiie assailant. I pray you to solve me the inconsistency cf the anxiety manifested to obtain the papers in my possession, if those papers contain nothing in themselves tending to implicate others, or thorvir light on the subject referred to 1 Why did Mr. Curtis offer me a specific sum to destroy them? Why your anxiety to get them out of Colonel Hamilton's possession, and then destroy them 1 Your most obd't serv't, J. B. GLENTWORTH. Egbert Benson, Esq. Receiving no answer to this contvnunication, I addressed a second letter to Mr. Benson, of which the following is a copy : AsTOR House, February 25th, 1841. Sir — I addressed a letter to you, on the 23d mstant, which remains unanswered. Lest there should be any misconception on your part, or supposed neglect on mine, to apprise you of my determination, I now address you again, to say that it becomes necessary for me to take some decisive measures to bring this subject to an issue. Although I do not think it incumbent upon me to inform you what measures I may resort to, in defence of niy rights and reputation, still, from the friendly relations that have existed between us, I consider it due you to say, that if, in adverting to any participation or agency of others, I am obliged to use your name, it will not be caused by any unfriendly motive, but merely as a connecting link in the chain of unquestionable evidences, both documentary and otherwise, I may be called upon to employ. For the issue of this controversy will not alone depend upon my declarations; for I have sustained myself at every point, with proofs as irresistible as they are conclusive. The mere publication of two of the several affidavits in my possession, will enlighten the public mind here, and at Washington, and materially aflect the interests of some of the prominent applis cants for responsible trusts in this city, under the General Government. You will Tecollect that I am goaded on to this course by the repeated violations of your ens ^agements wfih me, and that you have been aflorded timely advisement. Your most ob't serv't, J. B. GLENTWORTH. ?!eBERT Bensox, Esq. I received no answer to this letter. A few days afterwards I addressed a note to Mr. Bo wen, of which the following is a copy : AsTOB Hous , March 4ih, 1841. Sir— Under much excitement of feeling, I addressed two letters to Mr. Bp/ison on the 23d and 25th ultimo, to which, I presume, he has taken exceptio.«. My situation here is most unpleasant, and he has been aware of it. Founded on his assurances, I am disposed, for the sake of ray own feelings, and of my family, to yield to his suggestions. I am apprehensive of rnuch annoyance, previous to the coming election, and I wish to avoid it by leaving the city. I appeal to your sense cf honor and justice, to urge upon Mr. Benson the fulfilment of hw engagements. Your most ob't serv't J. B. GLENTWORTH. Jaomes Bowen, Esq.- A few days after this letter was written, I met Mr. Benson coming from behind the green curtain of the private ofnce of the Astor House. He passed, scarcely 44 speaking to me, and then snly to complain of tho letters I had written to hlra. A few minutes afterwards, I asked Mr. Charles Stetson if Mr. Benson had left any funds for me. He said " no ; but that a little boy had brought a package." I then inquired if he would receipt my bill. He said yes ; and he receipted the same for four hundred and forty-four dollars and fifty-four cents— being the amount due to the 1st of March. After he had receipted the bill, I toid him that Mr. Benson handed him the money. He appeared confused ; and, after a few moments, havs ing regained his composure, he laughed, and walked away, without makmg any reply. The hearing of the argument on the demurrer, was postponed from time to time until the 12ih April, 1841. In the interim, I had received several notes from Mr. O'Connor, informing me of these postponements. The balance of Mr. O'Con- nor's fee remained unpaid, although I had promise after promise jhat it should be attended to. The following is a copy of a note sent this day to Mr. Benson : New York, April?, 1841. Sir— Mr. Stetson has just infor.mcd me that he has a very large payment to make to-ii orrow. You will oblige me by handing him the amount of my bill at as early an hour as you can conveniently. I received, yesterday, a note from Mr. O'Cons ner, informing me that my ca&e is set down for argument on Saturday next. I have assurances from the Recorder that there will be no delay in this matter — that it will be disposed of at once. I trust that you will De prepared, so soon as I am relieved from this most unpleasant business, to carry out your engagements with as httle delay as possible. In has to, your ob't serv't, J. B. GLENTWORTH. Egbert Benson, Esq., 56 Warren street. I received no reply to this note. On the 12th instant I wrote him agaia, as follows : New York, April 12, 1841. Sir— It is with extreme regret that I am compelled to address you again on the subject of my communication to you a few days since. My case was argued this morning before the Recorder, and I have no doubt, from the confidence Mr. O'- Connor evinced, that the whole matter will be disposed of to my satisfaction. I have now nothing to desire but the fulfilment of your engagements with me, pred- icated on the resuli of this most distressing ordeal, and I trust that your arrange- ments to this end will be made with as little delay as possible. Your most obd't serv't, J. B. GLENTWORTH. E Bbnbon, Esq., Warren street. On Tuesday, the 13th of April, 1341, I received a note from Mr. O'Connor, as follows : Monday. Pear Sir— 1 expect- i to have seen you awaiu before the argument of your case, and was mtich surprised that you did not attend. Tlie argument has been partly heard, and no v stands adjourned until Saturday next, at twelve o'clock. Unless I see you before that time, you must not expect me to attend any further to the case. My partner, Mr. Derry, can receive your commands, as well as myself, should you call in my ab-iencc. Your8,&c., CHAS. O'CONNOR. J. B. GutwrwOBTH, Esq., Astor House. 45 On the receipt of this note from Mr. O'Connor, I enclosed it to Mr. Benson, and addressed the following letter to him : New YoHK, April 14, 1841. Sir— I received the enclosed yesterday from Mr. O'Connor. In my interview with him on Monday, he informed me that he had no apprehension v/hatever as to the result ; that the wtiole matter would be disposed of at once, and to my aat-« isfaction : that the "District Attorney had conceded that the indictments could not be sustained. I trust that you will not consider me importunate. I have written to you twice, and am without a reply to either communication. I desire nothing more nor less than an adherence to your engagements with me. If this matter, now so happily in a train of adjustment, is to fail, or at least be retarded, by your non-compliance or delay, the fault is not with me. You couns selled me to employ Mr. O'Connor, and assnred me that he siiouM be paid If, in either of my letters to you, 1 have wounded your feelings, or at any time in- dulged in intemperate language, I beg to recall the same, and to assure you that it has not been occasionsd by any disrespect. And my apoloify is in the fact that, since the 15ih day of last October, I have acted under strong excitement, and too often, perhaps, under wrong impulses, for 1 have been goaded almost to madness .by the position I am compelled to susJ;aiu. your most obd't serv't, J. B. GLENTWORTH. E. Benson, Esq. The further argument on the demurrer was set down for hearing on the 17th of April, but was postponed. On this day I sent a note to Mr. Richard M. Blatchi ford, of which the following is a copy : New YoaK, April 17th, 1841. Sir— I received a note from Mr. O'Connor, a few days since, informing me that the further argument of my case was adjourned to this day, at twelve o'clock, and that unless he heard from me previously, (that is, unless he received the balance of his fee,) he would not further attend to the same. I sent thia note to Mr. Bens son, on its receint, as it was at his instance, and under certain assurances, that I employed Mr. O'Connor. I am as yet unadvised whether he has attended to the same, and as it is certainly desirable that this most unpleasant business should be disposed of, I have thought it best to write you, that Mr. O'Connor may be seen on the subject. In great haste, your most obd't serv't, J. B. -GLENTWORTH. R. M. Blatchford, Esq. I called upon Mr. O'Connor, on the morning of this day, and informed him why I hadnot paid him the balance of his fee. The further hearing of the argument was deferred to the 20th instant. On the morning of that day I received another, and the last note from Mr. O'Connor, which was as follows : New York, April 20th, 1841. Dear Sir— Although I do not consider it necessary to superadd notices to those previously given, I now inform you that your case will come on for further argaa ment this atternoon,at four o'clock, and that 1 shall not appear. Yours, CHAS. O'CONNOR. James B. Glestworth, Esq., Astor House. On the receipt of this note, I determined to let matters take their course ; and if the parties who were as much interested as myself, to dispose of it, shewed no 4i6 Riore conceTn than was evinced, to give myself no further uneasiness. When I saw Messrs. Blatchford, Bowen and Benson, they appeared to think that the inn dictnients would be quashed. I showed the note from Mr. O'Connor to Col. Hams ilton, and addressed a note to him, asking him to ascertain the precise situation of matters, and how far the argnment had progressed. I had previously informed him ■of all the circumstances attending Mr. O'Conner's being emp'oyedas counsel. — Colonel Hamilton's reply to my letter, is as follows : New Yokk, April 21st, 1841. Dear Sir — On the receipt of your letter, with the contsntsof which I am much surprised, I called at the office of the District Attorney, and found that he waB engaged at the Court of Sessions. I shall, therefore, not see him before morning, fn the meaniime, I would suggest the importance of employing other counsel, and recommend Cutiing, Shaler, or Morrill, with instructions either to continue thears gument on the demurrer, or to effect soma arrangement to discontinue the present proceedings, and proceed to trial. Let me hear from you immediately, that the proper steps may be taken. Your obd't serv't, A. HA MILTON. J. B. Glent WORTH, Esq., Astor House. On the morning of the 26ih of April, 1S41, Colonel Hamilton informed me, that he had seen IVIr. O'Connor, and that he expressed himself very much dissatisfied. I was unwilling to submit quietlv to the imputation of refusing compensation to him for his services. I was determined that he should understand why the bal- ance of his lee was withheld; and at the suggestion of Colonel Hamilton, ladn dressed a letter to him, which he was authorized to show Mr. O'Connor. Tne following IS a copy of that letter : AsTOK House, April 25th, 1S41. My Dear Sir— I address you, to state the circumstances attending my employ- ing Mr. O'Connor as my counsel, not only injustice to myself, but to disabuse hla mind, as I am satisfied, from the conversation you had withhim*this morning, and which you have detailed to me, that he has not been disposed to accord to me that consideration which, as his client, I had a right to expect. On Friday, the day previous to my first interview with Mr. O'Connor, I was importuned by Mr. Blatchford, Mr. Bowen, Mr. Benson, and Mr. Charles A. Stetson, to employ him as my counsel. The latter gentleman insisted on his right to see that I was fur-* nished with able counsel, as he was my bail, &c. He informed me that Mr. O'Connor had been wailing in his office two hours for me, and in answer to my question, "how do you know that?" after a good deal of prevarication, and not Bntil I assured him that 1 would not move one step in the matter unless I had some assurances that he, Mr. O'Connor, had been seen, and that his fee would be paid, he told me that Mr. Blatchford and Bowen had said that everything was right, and that it was now only necessary for me to see Mr. O'Connor. In the course of half an hour, or perhaps) less, 1 saw Mr. Benson. His first inquiry was, *• Have you seen or employed Mr. O'Connor yet ? ' I replied that I had not, nor would I do it, unless I was furnished with money to pay him his fee. He urged me to go down at once, and see him ; that he would aiiund to it, and that it would all'be right. I resisted, and he loft me for a moment, and went into Mr. Bowen's parlor; they came out, conversed a few minutes together, and Mr. Benson came towards me, and said, "I'll borrow it from Mr. Stetson." I said, I'ilget it my- self, provided you will return it. To flus he assented, and in the course of a few 47 days, as Mr. Stetson informed nie, he repaid the same. In a conversation with Mr. Bowen this day, he said that I was perfectly right in the course I had a- dopted ; namely, not to move unless my counsel was paid, &c. &c. (Sec. 1 have repeatedly called upon Mr. Benson to make good his engagements with me, and as often been assured that he would do so. Onihe receipt of Mr. O'Con- nor's note, (informing me that he had "argued the case in part, and that it was postponed until the following Saturday, and that unless he saw me before that time, you must not expect me to attend any further to the case,") I immediately enclosed the same to Mr. Benson, asking his attention to it. I received no reply, although Mr. Stetson informed me, that he told him that he would go down and get the money. I waited in a good deal of suspense until Saturday morning, the day to which it was postponed, and having no advise, I then wrote to Mr. Blatchford who had, with Mr. Bowen, repeatedly assured me that Mr. Benson would adhere to all his engagements. He did not think proper to reply to my note, and on the following Monday, (this day week,) I mentioned the circumstances to Mr. Stetson, who is one of the confidential friends and agent of these parties. Mr. Stetson saia that he would see iMr. Benson, and get this S200, and the other monies I required. He went out for that purpose, and subsequently informed me that all was right, and that Mr. Benson would hand him a check. On Wednesday last I again inquired of Mr. Stetson whether Mr. Benson had called, or if he had seen him, and showed him a note then received from BIr. O'w Connor. He at once said that Mr. Benson was behaving very unhandsomely to-* wards me ; and that he would go down himself and see Mr. O'Connor, and hand him the ^200. " I suppose," said he, " he will take my check, for I have no mo-* ney to-day." I replied that he would, certainly. He left the house for this purt pose, in company with Mr. George Curtis, the brother of the present Collector. — Mr. Stetson informed me, on his return, that Mr. O'Connor would not receive the fee nor attend to the case; that he had no sympathy for me ; that it was a matter of pecuniary consideration alone, and that I had not met my engagements. In a word, that he would have nothing to do with the further arguing of the case. — This is all that I consider necessary to communicate to you at this time. You will observe th»': I have had no volition about the matter, and that Mr. O'Cons nor has been only nominally my counsel. In haste, your most obd't servt, J. B. GLENT WORTH. Col. A. Hamilton. It was a part of the arrangement made by Mr. Benson , on his own account, or as the go-between or agent of others, with me, that counsel should be furnished to dispose of the indictments, or in the contingency of my being tried, of which res suit the most remote idea was hardly entertained, that I should not be subjected to any expense for counsel or otherwise. It will be remarked that the argument on the demurrers to ceived from him a refusal to do anything. Under these embarrassing circums stances, I have thought it proper to inform you of the state of the negociation, that you may have en opportunity to see that it is performed. The amount in question is inconsiderable in itsel*^, but of infinite importance to me. I would hers advert to the delay that has been occasioned by the iieglect in paying Mr. O'Connor, my counsel, the balance of his fee, after having been ads vised, and urged, to employ him, and repeated assurances that it should be done. But for this, the mdiclmenis against me would have been disposed of a week since; and from the present position, I have reason to apprehend, that it will be necessary for me to employ other counsel, and I have thought of consulting either Mr. Morx rill, or Mr. S ha lor. I hope you will now see th3 necessity of an immediate reply to this communi- cation, that I may understand what I am to depend on. Your most obd't serv't, J. B. GLENTWORTH. On the morning of the 13th instant, I had soqie conversation with Mr. Coleman on the subject of employing counsel. Reappeared desirous that Mr. O'Connor or Mr. David Graham, Jr., should be employed to conduct the trial. We started together to call on Mr. Graham. In going through Beekman street, near the Clinton Hotel, I pointed cut Tvlr. O'Connor, who was going down Nassau street. Mr. Coleman ran after, and had a few moments conversation with Mr. 0'Con> nor. On his joi ning me, he said that Mr. O'Connor had promised to send him word whether he could attend to it ; that he was engaged the next day with a trial, and that he could not possibly attend to mine unless the District Attorney would consent to postpone it. On our way through the Park to the ofl5ce of the District Attorney, to ascertain whether this arrangement could be made, we met Mr. David Graham, Jr., near the Post Office. Mr. Coleman stopped and spoke to hira — I walked on. Mr. Coleman informed me that Mr. Graham would send him word, during the morning, if he could attend to it for me, and that he had as greed to give Mr. Giaham §150, if it only occupied two days; but he was to res ceiveS250, if he was engaged longer. Mr. Graham has subsequently informed me that iheeo were the terms, and that he received the SiSO. He had not received!the balance of his fee when I last conversed with him. Mr. O'Connor did not cons sent to take any part in my trial, and I asBOCiatcd Mr. James M. £}mi(h, Jr. with Mr. Graham. 51 My trial came on, and occupied four days; the particulars are familiar to th» public. The jury were divided, seven for acquittal and five for conviction. I suf- fered much annoyance about this time, in consfq'isnceof being surrendered by my bail. In this emergency, and after unsuccessfuily sending? to several of the par*, ties implicated in these frauds, which was disregarded by all excepting one per- son, who came up about dusk to the Court of Sessions for this purpose. Mr. Del Vecchio, a gentleman comparatively a stranger to me, had previously come for- ward and generously became my bail in the sum of five thousand dollars. Such instances of philanthropy, of high and generous disinterested consideration, in a political opponent, are rare. He has, and ever wiil hive, my gratitude. On Thursday, the 10:hday of June, an application was made by my counsef, J. M. Smith, Jr. Esq , to reduce my bail to five hundred dii'.ars. The court wish- ed time to consider the motion, and informed my counsel that they would give their decision on the following day. When this application was made, I observed Rlr. Benson and Mr. Justice Blerritt in the court room. It will be remarked, that at this time Mr. Benson was not even on speaking terms with me O i my way from the court room with my counsel, Mr, Benson came up and 3p )k'^ to me in a very familiar manner. He said, that so so^n as the bail v/as reduced, he wished to see me. I asked him to call at my lodgings in VVarren street, imaieJiately op> posiie to his house. He said, "ncj that v/on't do." I then remarked, thit I would call on him at his house. He again dissented, and said that it would not do for us to be seen together. He said that he was ob'igad to attend a meeting of one of the committees the nest evening at the City Hall, and that he would see me after the meeting, at nine o'clock, in frj.nt of the Ha;!. I did not meet this appointment in consequeace of a severe storm. The next morning I saw Mr, Benson several times before breakfast, on the steps of his front door. From his manner in looking over, and coming to the door so freqiontly, I was satisfied that he was desirous to see me. At about half past eight o'clock, Mr. Benson came out of his house, stood and looked towards m.y window; wilked along, and waited on the corner of the street, (West Broadway and Warren street,) until I came out, and joined him. I walked with and iefc him on the corner of Green wich and Vesey streets. We had considerable conversiiijn. He informed me, that every body was interfering with him and his busines^^. That committees of the whig party had insisted on the removal of hi^ deputy ; and that they wanted to know what connection he had with me. He said that he was sorry that ho had ever embarked in the business, and wished that he could wash his hands of it. He informed me that he "could not do much ;" he might raise a few hundred dollars next week. He appeared desirous that I should leave the city ; and rC" marked, ihat if I was disposed to do so, that he could make an arrang^mjnt with me to furnish what! might require. Mr. Benson made some suggestions as to the disposition of my family, &e. &3. I left Mr. Benso'i with an agreement to meet him in ten minutes in the Park, opposite the Astor House. He promised to hand me some money, and proposed borrowing it of Mr. Coleman, or Mr. Stet- son, until Monday. During this interview, in answer to Mr. Ban3:)n'3 inq tiries if my bi[\ wa9 reduced — who had become my bail — I informed him, under a pledge of honor, that the gentleman was an entire stranger to me, and that Mr. Merritt had procured the bail, &c. &c. He appeared a good deal amused at the idea of my not even knowing the name of the person who had become bail for me — I had for- gotten the name. Mr. Benson did not meet hig appaintrnent. I wen? down to Wall slrcel, thinklns; that I might meet him. On my way, in Broadway, neif Pine street, I met Mr. Merritt. He appeared very angry that I had been so in- discreet as to tell Mr. Benson that I did not know my bail, and that he had fur- nished it for me. He had beard it in Mr. Blatchford's ofl5ce. He cautioned me to be more circumspect, and we parted. I saw Mr. Benson twice during the morning. At the firot of these interviews, I mentioned the circumstance of his violating his pledge of honor with me., and communicating: the same to Mr. Blatchford and others within a half hour after that pledge was given. He flew into a most violent passion, He said that it was a damned lie, or that I was a damned liar. I told him that it was cowardly to insult a man who was pros- trate; that my first impulse was to strike him, but that his age and my situa^ tion, and fear to involve myself in more trouble, saved him. At the second in- terview, he handed me, in the door of the private entrance of the President House, the funds I required. I was in conversation with three gentlemen wher» became up and said that he wished to see me. It is not my purpose to asBarl private character. Mr. Benson has, for many years past, enjoyed the confi-' dence and respect of a large portion of this community, and it is with sincere regret thai I am compelled to record facts which place him in a light that na honorable man would covet to appear in. Mr. Benson knew me, or at least ought to have known me, and should never have suffered' himself to become the pUant tool of a persecution, as unrelentins, vindictive and cruel, as it was dishonorable and unjust. Mr. Benson bad known me under more prosperous circumstances; there was no necessity to superadd insult to persecution and in- jury. He was now in the full enjoyment, through my suggestion, of the very office of which 1 was deprived. I was not the humble suppliant of the bounty of Mr. Benson, or any of these parties. I asked no gratuity at their hands. I only claimed my rights, under as binding a contract as was ever made between honorable men. Neither the original contract with Mr. Benson, nor the Labse^t quent one through General Doughty, have been strictly adhered to. On Friday, the 1 1th day of June, my bail was reduced to one thousand dollars. On the 14th instant, I addressed the following letter to Mr. Bowen : New York, June 14th, 1841. Sir— I have, on reflection, concluded to address you once more, and this, let me assure you, shall be the last letter you receive from me in relation to the un- fortunate transactions, for which I have been compelled to be the only sufferer. You know that I !iave it in my power to make expositions, supported by proof, that will implicate you and oliier?, and satisfy the public mind, that if I acted wrong, others were more to be condemned than myself. You know, also, that for months, notwithstanding strong inducements were oifered me to surrender the papers which I hold, establishing the connection of yourself and others with me, in all that was done, that I refused to let them pass from my possession, and have passively endured all the odium myself, rather than let it fall on those who ought to have relieved me of, at least, a portion. In this determination, I have been influenced alono by considerations of honor towards you ; whether you and others are actuated by the same impulses, the sequel will show. The time has now arrived when something must be done, or I will give publication to the facts, connecting you and others with the alleged frauds of 1833, '39. I will not aufier as I have suflcrcd, and tamely submit. I will not allow Mr. Benson, or any other person, to make Rolenin engagements with me, and break them at their pleasure. No, thank God, it is not you suppose, simply ray word alone, or* 5S which the charges against you rest, though I understand you think bo, and say I have no proof, but you are mistaken. I have proof, and strong proof; proof that you cannot contradict ; proof that will establish to the public, what you knoMf already--your participation. I have, as Mr. Curtis does not suppose, proof of his c®nversation with me, at my room, in relation to my papers ; his offer of S2000 for them, is a circumstance against him, which it will be difRcult to explain ; ordi«» NARY MANUSCRIPTS arc not so valuable. I have an affidavit, independent of my declaration, to prove the fact. I have not been idle ; I have fortified myself with evidence, which, when the crisis arrives, can be used. I now repeat, and for the last time, that unless the engagements made with me by Mr. Benson, are fully carried into effect, and that too, without any fjtrtheu, or other, equivocation, that I will publish a full and true statement of the facts within my knowledge, which I will fortify with my own and other affidavits, letters and memoranda in my possession. I want justice done to me, in proportion to the persecutions and misery I have endured :— in that proportion will the public sympathy bo meted out, when the current changes. I repeat, I want nothing but what I atn honestly entitled to ; and if I cannot have it, I will see that those who are equally guilty with myself, shall not triumph in my downfall. If justice ia done, and truth prevails, you know, without my suggestion, what you must suffer. I feel no disposition to injure you; neither will I do it, if I am dealt by as I should be, by you. I have now resolved on the course I shall pursue; I have matured it in my own mind, and be the effect what it may, so far as I am concerned, I shall have this satisfaction, that those who ought to have befriended me, and who dessrted rae, because of my boingless powerfull than themselves, will be presented to the public in their true light. About a week since, I apprised you of my determina"» tion to enforce the arrangements made through Mr. Benson, and for the fulfiN ment of which, I had received your repeated assurances. All the letters I have addressed to you, and the memorandums of our different conversations in rela- tion to the transactions alluded to, and the affidavits in ray possession, shall be given to^ the public, unless immediate steps are taken to carry out, in good faith, the assurances made to me. What you determine upon, must be done to day, as I ehallleave for VYashington to-morrow, or the next day. I say unqualifiedly, that I do not ask one dollar more than I am entitled to by the terms of the agree- ment; neither will I accept anything beyond that amount. Justice to myself and family, require of me to demand my rights, and if they cannot be obtained, you shall feel that I am not as powerless as you have pretended to imagine. It is an old maxim, " that truth is mighty, and will prevail." We will see if it caa«« not be verified in this instance. Your most obd't serv't, JAS. B. GLENTWORTH. P. S. This letter, though addressed to you, is intended for Messrs. Blatchford, , Draper, Lawrence, Cook, Nathan, Havens, Swartwout, and Mr. Curtis. You may refer the latter gentleman, independently of the matter before referred to, to his correspondence with some of the members of the grand jury, and his pledge to Colonel Hamilton, as I am determined that the whole matter shall come before the public. On this day, I received a note from General Doughty on business of his own j and on the following morning I saw him, and in the course of conversation, in- formed him of thc'dishonorable treatment I had met with from Mr. Benson. I asked him to see Mr. Bowen, with whom he was intimate, and to have Mr. Benson 54 urged'to fulfil his engagements with me. He promised to do bo. On he IStlx instant, General Doughty called at my lodgings, No. 59 Warren street. He in- formed me that Mr. Bowen desired that I would withdraw the letter addressed to- him on the 14 :h instant. Ke remarked that it would not do for Mr. Bowen to move, until this was done, as it would apoear as if he acted upon compulsion , or to this effect — that as soon as the letter was withdrawn, Mr. Benson would be seen, and the arrangements made by him with me, carriid out in good faith. I think that General Doughty iniormjd me that Mr. Banson was then absent at Albany^ but would be in the city in a few days. '1 On the 16ih instant, I sent the following note to Mr. James Bowen, and the rev quest contained therein, was immediately complied wit!, : New Yokk, June 16ih, 1841. Sir— Will you be pleased to return the communication addressed to you the day before yesterday 7 directed to me, at No. 59 Warren street. Your most obd't serv't, J. B. GLENT WORTH. James Bowsn, E?q. I wrote a note to General Doughty, of which the following is a copy : N3W YoHK, June 2Ist, 1S4I. Dear Sir— In compliance with your suggestion, I immediately addressed a note to Mr. Bowen, withdrawing the communication referred to, which he promptly complied wi'.h. May I further ask your kind offices in this matter? I am very desirous to leave the city for a few weeks, and am prevented until this business is arranged one way or the other. Wiil you do me the favor to see ?flr. Bowen, at your earliest convenience, during the morning, and ascertain whether Mr. Benson has been seen, and with what result ? I would not trouble you, but for the reason that exception may be taken if I communicate, or ask any one else to call upon them, having been charged with a want of circumspection on other occasions — You will readily see the propriety of my making this requssi. In haste, truly yours, &c. J, E. GLENT WORTH. General Geoege S. Doug:i~y. In the course of a few days, I again saw General Doughty at my lodgings.— Nothing definitely had been agreed upon. He inquired the terms of the arrange-* menl between Mr. Benson and myself. Wanted to know how much I had already received, and >vhat was the lowest amount I would accede to. I msisted upon the whole amount, after deducting some payments I had received on in- dividual account from Mr. Benson. He said that Mr. Benson denied auy ar«« RANGEMENT WITH ME. That the parfics implicated by me in the5e frauds, rather sought and defied investigation ; that they had no fear of me ; that they defied me ; and almost in the same breath, he asked me if I would consent to destroy the papers in my possession : that is to say, whether I would throw away the evis dance in my possession of their participation in these frauds. Mark the incons BiBTENCY ! At one moment defying me to the proof, and at the ne.\t, asking the destruction of the evidence of their guilt. 1 was very angry, and expressed my-% Belf in no very measured termp. General Doughty advised me to arrange the matter with Mr. Benson, on the best terms that I could. He thought that I could not get the whole amount Mr. Benson had agreed to pay me; but that I could possible get two thousand dollars, and advised my taking it. I considered him my friend and adviser, and yielded to his judgment. Ho repre»ented that Mr- 55 feen«on was embarrassed ; that he was poor ; and he left, promising to attend to this matter, and to see me in the course of a few days. I waited until the 28th instant, and not hearing from him, I addressed a second note to him, of which the following IS a copy : Monday, June 28, 1841. Dear Sir — I havebe-n anxiously waiting to hear from y ju, as I understood you to say that you would give the matter your immeJiate attention. I regret to ims portune you, but I am desirous to know d_ finitely whether the engagements mide in good faitti with me by Mr. Benson, and the repeated assurances subsequently ^iven by Messrs. Bowen, Blatchford and Draper, that they would be adhered to, are to 1>8 violated with impunity. I desire nothing but justice, and would not ac-« ccpt one dollar beyond wiiat that engagement calls for, much as I want it. There is a manifest inconsistency in the assertion of Mr. Benson, that there was no ar- rangement with me. How can you reconcile the fact that he has, for six months past, frequently advanced money for specific purposes, if this was the case. How-, ever, this is of no moment. Will you do me the favor to see Mr. Benson, and communicate with me at your earliest convenience; if possible, during the day. yours, very truly, &c. &c. J. B. GLENTWOHTH. Gen. George S. Doughty. On ike first of July, General Doughty and myself had another interview, duringf which he repeatedly informed me that Mr. Benson denied his arrangement with me; and that the other parties were under no apprehension of me. That Mr. Blatchford and Mr. Bowen considered that Mr. Benson was bound to carry out his agreement with me, and that they would do all in their power to enforce it. But that another, (whom I supposed and charged was Mr. Draper, and which was not denied,) defied me, and said he v/ould "impale me alive" if I dared to agitate this matter, or implicate him; or to this effect. 1 ad* verted to the mconsistency of Mr. Benson in denying his arrangement with me, and instanced his having, on the strength of this arrangement, re-* peatedly made advances to me. On leaving. General Doughty said he thought he would be enabled to hand me the check for the amount agreed upon the next day. He called on the next day, and informed me that he could not make the arrangement to give me all cash. He wanted me to take three hundred dol- lars, and then six hundred dollars in cash, and the balance in notes, or payments monthly until the whole was paid. This I declined. I now, for the first time, discovered, from the drift of General Doughty's conversation, that he wasempows ered to make the best terms he could for the other party ar parties. He had em» barked in this business at my instance, and as my triend. I considered that he had lost sight of my interests. I told him that I would not take less than one thousand dollars cash, and the balance in two payments, or drafts with his accep- tances. His object, in my judgment, was to defer the payment of as much of this amount, until after November, so as to secure, if possible, my silence ; and the reason is obvious: the statute of limitations, so far as the participation of Messrs. Blatchford, Bowen and Draper were concerned, protected them from indictment. General Doughty left me, agreeing to see me at the same hour next day, and in the meantime to make, as he said, " Benson fork up a check lor the amount." — General Doughty did not call, according to appointment, and I ascertained during the day that he had left the city. On his return, he sent me a note, as follows : *' that 80 soon aa the thing is dsne I will advise you." This note was not signed ; it was in reply to a communication from me. The reader will readily perceive, that the object I have in view, in adverting to this correspondence, is to show the intimate relation of the parties impHcated in these frauds. However unwilling I may be to task the patience of any one, still I cannot, injus'iceto myself, and in accordance with my pledge to the public, keep back any fact, or incident, tendmg in any way to a clear exposition and un"* derstanding of these frauds. There are, however, some circumstances entirely of a personal character, growing out of this correspondence, which for the present is withheld, and may never possibly transpire. It they do, it will be occasioned by the act3 of others. On the 15th of July, I addressed a note to Mr. Benson, of which the following IS a copy : New York, July 15th 1S41. Sir— The continued absence of General Doughty from the city, prevents my communicating with you through him. I am desirous to ascertain whether the •proposition made and acceded to, on the first instant, will be adhered to, or other- wise? It is badpohcy to agitate the public mind on this subject, and can answer no good purpose. I am ready and willing to do every thing that was right. Why is it that this arrangement is not carried into effect in good faith 1 If you will see me during the morning, I think we can arrange matters satisfactorily. If so, will you send me word by bearer, at what time and place. Your most obd't serv't, J. B. GLENTWORTH. Egbert Bbnson, Esq. After this letter was dispatched, I went down to Mr. Smith's office. No. 3 Wall street, at which place I had agreed to meet the bearer of the note, to receive Mr. Benson's reply. In turning from Nassau street into Wall street, I saw Mr. Benn «on on the steps of No. 3 Wall street. He crossed over and met me in front of the Presbyterian Church, and informed me that he was only waiting General Doughs ty's return to the city to close the arrangement. He advised me to keep quiet, and not to quarrel with my best friends. He asked me when I was going away, and said that the bail now was of no consequence, and that it could be attended to, or to this effect. It will not do, however, said he, laughing, to advise you to leave your bail, for I am one of the judges of the court. He inquired if I had not received a note through the Post Office. 1 replied that I had not ; that I had not been to the office for several da) s past. After leaving Mr. Benson I went to the Post Ofn fice, and received an anonymous letter, which I recognised to be in the hand-*wris ting of Mr. Benson, of which the following is a copy of the original now in my poBsesBion. The post mark on this letter is Jnly 13th, and addressed to Mr. J. B. Glentworth, Warren street, New York. " General D. is out of town ; will return in a day or so. When ho does, any anangement he may have made, will be immediately carried out." TUEBDAT." I saw Mr. Benson on Saturday, the !7th instant. He handed me some funds, and promised to see General Doughty immediately on his return to the city, and close the arrangement with me on the following Monday or Tuesday. I sent not only to Gen. Doughty, but to Mr. Benson, several notes, urging a consummation of the arrangement. I received, most generally, verbal replies and 'promises.— The former sent mo word about this lime, " that he would have nothing more to do with It;" and gave me the same information, personally, at his store after^ 'wards, I think on the same day. 57 On Wednesday morning, July 2l8t, 1841, General Doughty sent me the follow* ing note: ** I go out oj town, to return on Thursday mornings when matters will be arranged." Wednesday. It is unnecessary to say that he did not meet this engagement. After there"* ceipt of the anonymous letter from Mr. Benson, I was desirous to obtam his writmg, to compare with the anonymous one I had received. To this end, I sent a note to Mr. Benson on the 23d mstant. It was as follows : Friday, July 23d, 1841. Sir— General Doughty informed me on Wednesday, that the arrang-ement should be closed yesterday. Will you please inform me by bearer, whether you are prepared to close it to-morrow. Your moat obd't serv't, J. B. GLENTWORTH. E. Benson, Eeq. I received by the bearer, written on a strip from my note : *' General D. will see you to day ; he told me at eleven o'clock.'* This reply is in the same hand writing as the anonymous letter, received by me through the Post Office. I have no comment to make at this lime, on the con^ duct of these parties. I will content myself with the simple inqiiries : why did Mr. Benson address an anonymous communication to mo on a matter of business'? If that business was of an ordinary or every day character, why not call and see me, or send some one for that purpose 1 On the 24th, I again cent a short note to Mr. Benson, of which the following is a copy : JuLY24ih, 1841. Sir— General Doughty informed me yesterday that he wjuld see ms at ten o'clock this morning, and it is now nearly two o'clock. There appears to be an evident disposition to trifle with me in reference to the consummation of this matter. I am compelled to say, that unless it is arranged to-day you will force me t.> take some measures that will be a source of regret to all concerned. Your most obd't servt, J. B. GLENTWORTH. Egbert Benson, Esq. A short time after this letter was sent. General Doughty made his appearance. He inquired whether all the papers were in my possession. I informed him that they were. He then said that he would expect me to place them in his custody, so soon as the first payment was made. He spoke a good deal of his diplomacy in effecting this arrangement; that he had the securities for the first and second payments in his possession, and that he would secure the others before he saw me on Wednesday, on which day he appointed to meet me at the President House, at ten o'clock, to make the first payment. I had determined, when the perfidy of these parties was too apparent to be mis* taken, to entrap them in the very snare they had laid for me. It will be seen from the first, that their great anxiety was to possess themselves of my papers ; this was their great aim. They well knew that those documents contained evidence, not only tending to implicate them in these frauds, but to affix, and rivet by adas a 5C mantiae bolts, their guilty participation upon them. I had however resisted, up ta this time, all their overtures to possess themselves of these papers. Mr, Edward Curtis, the self-styled " hercules of the party," could not, with all his power of eloquence and persuasion, get theiTi from my possession. And it was the destiny of the " Great Ajix" of th'^ same party, in turn, to be foiled. I knew that my ar» ransement with Mr. Benson would noi be consummated unless I yielded this point, and I now seemingly acquiesced in their views. I prepared a parcel of papers, copies from letters and memoranda, &c. &c., to be used when the crisis arrived. After Ihis was done, the original papers passed from my possession, where or to whom I had no knowledge. I knew that they were safe, and that they would be forth'* coming whenevtr I might r-q iire WvMn. Some of them have only been returned to me within ten days past. The denouement w as approaching — the time arrived f I met General Doughty, according to appointment, on the 28th July, at the Presis dent House. He aakcd for the papers ; I handed him tke package sealed, and they were received as the originals. Of his visit to Washington, its object, of whether these papers were there exhibited, and of other particulars connected with ih'isprofound diplomacy, is not knov.-n by me— it is matter for conjecture. The question arises, and is as easily answered. Was I justified in resorting to this stratagem ? Have the parties acted honorably towards me 1 Have not every means been resorted to, to injure and degrade me? Have not the parties im«» plicated, " moved Heaven and earrh," to obstruct the legal investigations, and to- give the charges a false issue 7 Have they not sought to hood wink the judicial tri'aunals, jury, and public? Like the ostrich, whose head is concealed m a bush, they seemed to forget the awkward and deformed mass of their own irreconcilable statements, and that their conduct stood exposed to the broad glare of public in- spection. Of the petty annoyances and mortifications that I was subjected to, and obliged tamely to endure, caused by the profound diplomacy of one who embark, ed m this business at my sohcitation, as my friend, I will not here relate. I leave him to his own refl .ctions. " Who could bend the pregnant hinges of the knee, Where thrift would follow fawning." The evidence to prove their participation in these frauds, they now imagined was within their control. I was harmless, for they thought no one would credit my unsustained declarations. Still I was not enabled, before the statute of limita'* tions released some of these parties, to obtain what I had been for several terms not only entitled to, by long practice and usage, and even by the promises of the court, a discharge ci the indictment. Up to the very last moment, we find the minions of these parties surrounding the court ; and even the very parties themselves, making an effort with that court to discharge the bail, but to hold the indictments in terrorem, over my devoted head. Previous to this time, the parties to these frauds felt secure; they bid trusted to my sense of honor to shield them. This security was now at an end. They knew that I understood their baseness, and they were not willing, wtthouf an effort, to give up the means to coerce my silence. The decision and firmness of my counsel, however, prevailed, and effected what in justice ought to have been granted to me several terms before, namely, a nolle prosequi to the mdictment. This was entered on the 22nd day of November, 1841. I was now a free man ; the bhacklcs that bound me were cast off. I breathed the fresh air of heaven as I was wont, once again, with inexpressible delight. Mjr 59 ^^aonal liberty was no longer at stake. And I felt relieved that the obligationa that had bound me to these parties was now severed, and by their own perfidy to- wards me. It was my intention when I commenced these statements to have submitted an analysis and comments on the several affidavits of the parties implicated in these transactions, taken before the Recorder, in October, 1840. I have, however, taken up so much lime in other matters, that I must content myself with a f-^w cursory remarks. Mr. Robert Swartwout, m his examination on the occasion referred to swears that he met me in October, 1838, in the cars foe Philadelphia, and by ao %ident. He had forgotten that we started, and by appointment, in the steamboat^ and that I acted as purser on the occasion, and paid his passage. On our arrival 5tt Philadelphia, he swears that he introduced rae to Colonel Swift. He was not aware that I had known Colonel Swift from my boyhood. At the interview at Colonel Swift's, I am subsiituled for himself, as the person who communicated the object of our visit. Avery natural and precautionary mistake. In a word, Mr. Robert Swartwout makes a clean conscience of it. He swears right through. It is unnecessary to say that Mr. Swartwout was appointed by the Collector of the Port, and is now a measurer under the General Government. The principal feature in Mr. R. M. Blatchlord's affidavit is the production of a copy of a letter, which he swears was written by Mr. Draper, and sent to me by William A. Ford, at Philadelphia He thinks that this letter was written by Mr. Draper "alone, although it may have been signed by Mr. Draper, Mr. Bowen, I think, Mr. Grinnell and myself." ''If it was not signed by us, it was written, certainly, by the three." "But upon reflection, I am not certain whether Mr. Grinnell had anything to do with it." &c &c. The following is a copy of the letter incorporated in Mr. Blatchford and Mr. Grinnell's affidavits, and referred to by Mr. Draper; '* New York, October 31st, 1838. "Dear Sir — Two of your letters written yesterday, have found their way to this city; the project which yon laid out is not wholly understood by your friends here. The position which they consider themselves placed in, is easily summed up, and thdr oniy fear is, that you may have misunderstood their motives and de«» aires, if you have made any arrangements which in any way tend to any thing beyond a general supervision of the polls, for the purpose of detecting and pre- venting illegal voting, you must at once uneq livocally abnndon it, and look to thera for any expense which your precipitate steps may have occasioned. We value the oaf se as highly as any portion of our fellow citizens value it, but we •redetermined not to enter into any sort of arrangement which, under any cir-- cumstances, could be construed into a bargain for foreign votes. We therefore take the earliest and most effective mode of saying to you that, while we are reas dy to submit to the expense which you may have incurred in your preliminary ar** rangement, we will not countenance any system which can in any way encour« age the importation of voters. " We know your desires, and shall be willing to meet your wishes, provided they are based upon the simple point of protecting the rights of the honest voters, •which we deem your only hope or expectation." Mr. Blatchford; in his examit^ation before the Recorder, on ike 22nd day of Octo* her, 1840, in giving the date of this letter, remarked, *' / have made a mistake." And I now call upon the public to mark this, what I conceive to be, fatal mistake; for there is more in it than meets the eye. It will be recollected that I have before «0 atated the fact of my unqualified denial of the receipt of this letter when it was Jirat read to mebijMr. Draper, on the morning of the 2{st day of October, 1840, in /iw parlor, in the presence of Mr. Blatchford. Did Mr. Blatchford date this letter on th6 2\stor'ilst of October, 18407 How easily might onesound be mistaken for the other ?- Was not that identical letter prepared to meet a contingency on ihat mor-i ning, and by these parties? Was not this a cunningly devised invention to relieve themsel veSj and to throw the whole odium upon me 7 I do not hesitate to say that if they had followed out this base plot, that I would at once have availed myself of theoffdrs of the District Attorney and of the Court, and become the accuser, ini stead of the accused. Mark, also, the contradiction and' discrepancy as to th«5 enditing of this letter. Mr. Blatchford swears, at one moment, that it is written by Wr. Draper alone; at the next moment, the three certainly participate in the coneoclion of this precious relic. Mr. Grinnell is made a party, and, at the next turn, he is entirely absolved from all participation and knowledge, except appros vina of it. Mr. Blatchford swears that this letter wasMriiien at Mr. Grinnell'a house, and by Mr. Draper. Now is it probable that Mr. Draper, who is a business off-hand man, or that either of the others would sit down on the spur of the moment, and write such a letter. But, aside from this reasoning, I now produce the original letter, and all I ask is that it may be contrasted with " the countern feit presentment." " Look upon this picture, and on this." Thursday Afternoon. Dear G. — We were a good deal alarmed this morrting, to find that your visit to Philadelphia was suspected here and talked of in the streets. For your own sake as well as ours, you must stop sho.t where you are. The enclosed will enable you to meet your engagements as far as you have gone. You had better return and show yourself here as soon as you possibly can. Yours, truly, W. SCOTT. The bearer knows nothing. This letter was handed to me by William A. Ford, at the United States Hotel, Philadelphia, on Thursday, the Isi day ol November, 1838, at about twelve o'clock at night. I have a transcript from the register of the United States Hotel, and the name of William A. Ford, New York, is entered on that day. Can any unprejudiced mind take up this letter, and contrast its phraseology with the pres cise and studied manner of expression of that specious invention, and the whole affidavit itself, and then arrive at any other than a correct and honest judgment ? The letter signed W. Scott is not, as I believe, in the hand writing of Mr. Dra- per, bat written by Mr. Bowen, with whom, and one other, the fictitious name to be used in our correspondence was entrusted. Mr, Blatchford swears that "Ford went on at the instance of Mr. Draper, Mr. Bowen, myself, and I think of Mr. Grinnell also." In another place in his olBdavit, he says : " I think Mr. Ford went on at the instance of Mr. Draper and Mr Bowen. 1 do not remember wheth" er I ever saw Mr For'pr not. He was a person Mr. Bowen knew." Mr. Bowen was Chairman of the Extcutive Committee. My statement of these transactions is before the public, and they will, as a con- stqiicnce, compare it vviili the affidavits of the parties I implicate with participa-^ lion in these frauds, and also compare the affidavits of the parties one with the other. For this object, I have appended them to this publication. I now come to the examination of Mr. Draper's aflSdavit, made at the same time, and under the same circumstances. And if, in mercy, I forbear an analysiattf this incongruous mass, I trust that neither the gentleman himsell, nor the public, will attribute it to any apprehension of being impaled alive but that I am governed by the reasons and consideiaiions before given. Mr. Draper's aflQdavit is a tissue of contradictions and inconsistencies. It is a non mi rccordo business from the beginning to the end. Injustice, however, to Mr. Draper, I will slate, that one, at least, if not more, of his replies to the several interrogatories by the District Attorney on that occa- sion, may have been correct. It is in reference to that sly conceit of the letter. — " It was sent by Ford ; I do not know what his first name is." " I think it was sent to Glentwortli by Mr. Blatchfcrd." Here Mr. Draper and Mr. Blatchford are at issue. Does it not appear somewhat inconsistent, that I should, under the circumstances, as admitted by Mr. Draper himself, call at his house at eleven o'clock at ni^^'ht, to make, for the first nnd only time, at so unseasonable an hour, so unreasonable, not to say improbable, a request, as to ask his draft on Philadelphia, at sight. With Mr. Draper I have done, and have only to refer the public to his afindavit, for a confirmation of all that I have charged. Mr. Henry VV. Haven's affidavit I have before commented upon. And I do not consider it necessary to say one single word more of Mr. Noah Cook or his aflBdavit. I publish it as a matter of course, v ith the others. A very large proportion of the whig party in this city, and throughout the United States, have entertained a most erroneous impression, that I had violated the con- fidence of the parly, in communicating its operations to Mr. J. D. Stevenson. It will be recollected, that I have had no ability to place this matter in a proper light before the whig party and the public. Until the 22nd day of last month, my personal safety made it necessary that I should tamel5^ submit to bear this stigma. That I was not the first to communicate the fact, that such frauds had been x perpetrated, I have an affidavit and other proof in my possession, and am ready, if this fact is disputed, to present the same to the public. The fact that frauds had been perpetrated, was communicated " by more than one person high in the confidence ofihewV'g party, and I hold the evidence to prove it. I have now redeemed my pledge to the public. I have given a statement of the frauds, and ihat statement is true in every particular. I might have been more prolix, and given some circumstances that have an indilrect bearing upon the object for which this is made. My design has been to present the facts in such a light as to give the public the information to which they are by right entitled — to mete out equal justice. And if I have swerveJ, or yielded in one instance, and one alone, it has been at the sacrifice of my own judgment, and at the warm earnest solicitat.on of a few steadfast friends. A sense of duty hasdes termined me to bring this matter again before the public. I can foresee the embarrassment which it will occasion me ; I can foresee the attacks which will be showered upon me from many sources; and I wou'd wiUingly have suffered it to have rested where it was, before this publication, ill could have re(5onciled such a course of conduct with my sense of duty. Having wronged the public by my acts, I could do no more nor less than make to them the only reparation in my power — confess my errors, and point them to others who pariieipated in those discreditable transactions, in infringing those inestimable rights " Which are the freeman's boast, And patriot's only hope." APPENDIX. Examinations of R. M. Blatchford, Simeon Draper, Jr., Robert C. Wetmore, Robert Swartwout, Noah Cook, and others, before the Recorder of the city of New York, in Octo- ber, 1840 : City and County of New York.ss: Richard "M. Bhtchford, of the city of New York, counsellor at law, being duly sworn, havinsr been brouglit before n\e on subpoena, says : He knows James B. Glentworih ; I do not know that Mr. Glent^ worth was appointed with Mr. Swartwout, or with any ottier person, in October or November, 1838, to go on to Philadelphia ; I do not know that he was appointed alone or selected for that purpose. I know the fact that he did proceed to Phila- delphia at that period ; I do not know at whose instance he went ; I do not know, on his return, of his having a mseting at my house, office or elsewhere, with any persons that I recollect ; I do not remember having a meetins; with Mr. Draper, Mr. R. C. Wetmore, or with Mr. Glenlworth about that time, though it is possible such was the case, as it was before the election, and many meeungs v/ere held about that time among our political fiiends ; I do not remember the subject mat- ter of the interviews as far as relates to Mr. Glputworth ; there was no draft to my knowledge given to Mr. Glentworih by Mr. Draper or any other person upon Mr. GUI, of Philadelphia; I do know from information only, that Mr. Glentworth received money to be used in Philadelphia ; I received this information from Mr. Glentworth, I think; Mr. Glentworih snid he had been informed by Colonel Swift and other persons in Ph iladelphia, that Mr. Page and other persons belong- ing to the locofoco party, were engaged in a project of sending on to the city of New York a large number of persons to vote at the election in the city of New Yc-k. — It was suggested by some persons in the whig party, and among others by Mr. Glentworth. that the only method of safely counteracting the effects of such a project, was to procure from Philadelphia the attendance of several persons familiar with individuals in thai city who would be likely to lend themselves to such a fraud. Mr. Glentworth suggested that he had been to Philadelphia, and had seen indi- viduals there who had promised to aid him m procuring men to come on here, and be present at our polls for the purpose of detecting such fraduleni voters as the other party might bring on from Philadelphici. Mr. Glentwortn stated that the measure would be attended with someexponse, and that, therefore, certain funds would be required to defray those exp -nses. In that conversation was under- stood that funds should bo furnished for that purpose. 1 was one of the persons belonging to our party who liad the disposal of the funds for piymg some of the necessary expenses of the election, and for fh:it reasun this communication was made to me— I gave it my assent, as did al?o Mr. Draper, who, I think, was present, on the express understanding and declaration, that under nocircumsiances, directly or indirectly, should any of the money appropriated for that object, be used for any illegal purposes connected with the election, or for bringing any person whatever here to vote, or to Uifluence voters. Mr. Glentworih gave a solemn assurance that for no such unlawtul purposes should any portion of the money be used. I do not remember how mueh was appropriated for that object, nor who gave it to Mr. Glentworih. I i.iink Mr. James Rowen was present. I do not think that Mr. R. C. Wetmore or Mr. Moses H. Grinnell were present. I have no recollcc. tion when this took place; the time is long since and I was much engaged at the time with matters connected with the elections. I think this was the very last of Octo- ber. Whocmploy. d Mr. Glentworth to go to Philadelphia, I do not know. The application was make to us in con9e(iuence of the expenses which would he at- tendant upon It. I do not know who went on, or whether any one went on to see Glentworth belorc this at Philadelphia. I know a man by the name of Ford went on to Pliiladel|)hia after lhi \ He went on at the instance of Mr. Draper Mr. Bowenand myself, and I think of Mr. Grinnell also. 63 The object of this visit was to request Mr. Gleiitworth to desist from eterf thing thai he wis doing m Philadelphia. There was a letter written to Mr/ Grlentworth by Mr. Draper, I think alone, although it may have been signed by Mr. Draper, Mr. Bowen, 1 think by Mr. Grinnell and by myself. If it was not, however, signed by us, it was written certainly by the three, but upon reflection, I am not certain that Mr. Grinnell had anything to do with it, although it was read to him and approved by hiai. The following is a copy of the letter ; "New York, October 31st, 1840"—! have made a mistake, as this is written from a copy, and I ask leave to alier it. As altered it should read : "New York, October 31st, 1339. " Dear Sir— Two of vour letters, written yesterday, have found their way to this city ; the project which you laid out is not wholly understood by your friends here. The position which they consider themselves placed in, is easily summed up, and their only fear is, that you may have misunderstood their motives and desires. If you have made any arrangements which in any way lend to any thing beyond a general supervision of the polls, for the purpose of detecting and preventing ille«« gal voting, you must at once unequivocally abandon it, and look to them for any expense which your precipitate sieps may have occasioned. We value the cause as highly as any portion of uurf; How citizens value it, but we are determined not to enter into any son of arrangement which, under any circumstances, could be construed into a bar^^ain for foreign votes. We therefore take the earliest and most efieciivd mode of saying to you, that while we are ready to submit to the expertfee which you may have incurred in your preliminary arrangement, we will not countenance any system v/hich can many way encourage thie importation of voters. . " We know your desires, and shall be willing to meet your wishes, provided they are based upon the simple point of protecting the rights of the honest voters, which we deem your only hope or expectation." This concludes the letter; I am not certain whether this letter was sent by mail or by Mr. Ford; I think Mr. Ford went on at the instance of Mr. Draper and Mr. Bowen ; 1 do not remember whether 1 ever saw Mr. Ford or not ; I do not know Mr. Ford's first name or residence; he was a person Mr. Bowen knew j Mr. Draper has the draft of this letter, from which the copy I have read was made yesterday ; there Wad money furnished at the time of writing this letter, to be sent to Mr. Glentworih, but I do not recoUtct the amount ; I believe I gave the money to Mr, Draper and Mr. Bowen, from the fund which was in my hand; my impression is it was S200; I am certain it was notS500; I feel pretty confident it was S200— at all events, that is all I know of; I presume I have a memorandum at my office, which will tell precisely what the amount was; Mr. Glentworth returned to the city immediately after the writing of ihi» letter — I think so — I am not positive. He did not have an interview with me at my office ot> his return ; according to the best of rny recollection. I met him in Broad street; I do not remember any agreement to meet at Mr. Draper's house with Mr. Bowen, Mr. Grinnell, and Mr. Wetmore, on Saturday night foN lowing his return at 10 o'clock, nor do I remember any such meeting; two years have elapsed since that time. I cannot tax my recollection, as it was a time of great political excite uent and occupation. I do not remember a meeting at Mr. Draper's until two o'clock on Sunday morning, at which Mr, Glentworth was present. The letter I have mentioned was written at Mr. Grinnell's house. I do not remember Mr. Draper giving Mr. Glentworth one or two drafts at sight on Mr. Charles Gill, of Philadelphia, amounting to two thousand dol- lars, or any such sum. No drafts v/ere sent on to Mr. Gleniworth by Dras per at the time the letter was written, that I know of; and I think it could not have been without my knowledge. Mr. Glentworth did not, to my knowledge, go on to Philadelphia in the spring of 1839, with a view to make any arrangement about the spring election. I know Henry W, Havens ot this city. J do not know of any money being forwarded by him to Mr. Glentworth, either in the fall of 1833 or spring of 1839. Mr. Robert Swariwout did not go to Philadelphia at either of our in<« stance, nor did I know that he went to Philadelphia, nor did I ever hear or know of any other person or persons going to Philadelphia for or on behalf of the whig party, except Mr. Glentworth, as before stated ; and he only for the avowed, and declared, and so believed by me, purpose of bringing individuals here to detect illegal votes, which, it vras said, the other side intended to bring from Philadelphia to vote here, which intention I fully believe they meant to carry into effect, which was the sole reason of my giving my approbation to Mr. 64 Glentworth's going to Philadelphia. I do not remember what the two letters were alluded to in the leiier above copied, nor do I know to whom those letters were written; they were such, however, as led us to fear it waspossi* ble that Mr. Glentworili niiL'ht do what would not meet our approbation, and be consistent with right and justice, and ihedisiinct understanding unde' which we gave our assent to his going, ihougli I am bound to say, from my indis- tinct recollection of the letters, that there was nothing in them which could show that Mr. Glentworih was actually engaged in any illegal proceedings, but fearing lest his ardent temperament might lead him astray. I understood from Mr. Glentworih that sevtral persons did come on from Philadelphia to detect illegal votes that fall; he did not state the number; I do not think I ever heard the number Irom him, or from any body else; he staled, however, there was not near as many came on as would have come if our letter had not been written. I do not know, from information or otherwise, who had the disposition or appointment of these men afier they came on.- I think, however, Sir. Glent- worih fold me he had the disposition of these men, and that he came on with them ; I have no recollection how many he was authorized to employ or bring on for this purpose — it Was not many, however; I have no recollection or know- ledge of how much money he was authorized to spend for this purpose; lean* not say whether he was limited as to amount — yet he must have been ; I have no doubt he was ; I have no knowledge that he wrote from Philadelphia, as to the terms upon which he could get the men to come on — he certainly ne- ver wrote to me, and I had no communication with himj except as above; I do not remember that he furnished an account to the committee of money ppent by him ; ttiere was no account kept by me of the moneys paid or sent tohim, nor by any one else that I know of; it was pretty exciting times, and rigid accounts were not kept. I never heard of persons being sent from. Albany in this way under similar or any arrran^jenient, with Mr. Glentworih or any other person. Mr. Glentworih, I do not think, ever told me the men that came on here with him voted. I did undprsiand, but from whom I cannot tell, that there was illegal voting on both sides. I think I saw it in the Evening Post. It was in consequence of th-Jt, that I, as one, was desirous to have a registry law. R. M. BLATCHFORD. Taken and sworn this 22d day of October, 1840. ROBEUT H. MORRIS, Recorder of the City of New York. City and County of New York, ss : Robert C. Wetmore, merchant of the city of New York, beiiig duly sworn, deposeih and says: Knows Mr. Glentworih, and has three or four years; he was appointed Tobacco Inspector a year aeo last winter; I have no knowledge thai he was sent by any person or persons to Pnila« delphia, in the fall of 1838, to make arrangements in relation to the fall election ; I do not know that he was in Philadelphia in the fall of 1838 ; I did not, nnr to my knowledge did any other person receive a letter from him in the fall of 1838, from Philadelphia, or from any other place ; I know James Bowen of this city ; I do not know of Bowx;i's writing a letter to Glemworth at Philadelphia in the fall of 1838 i I do not know a man in this city by the name of Ford ; I had not the most distant knowledge that Glentworih was at Phiiad Iphia, under any circumstans ces, in the fall of 1838 ; I did not meet Mr. Gleniworth at the house or office of Mr. Blatchlord, or anywhere else, early in the month of November, 1838 ; I never met any person at Mr. Draper's house in the fall of 1338, nor have I ever been at his house; I know nothing of Drajier's drawing a draft on Charles Gill, of Phila* delphia; I know Henry VV. Havms ; I do not know of any money being given to him to carry to Philadelphia, or package eaid to contain money ; Mr. Bowen, in 1838, was Chairman of ihe Young Men's Executive Whig Committee; I do not know of perj^ons timing on frum Philadelphia in the f-Ul of 1838, to look after illegal voters ; I know Noah Cook and John F. Raymond, but I do not know Pa«« trick McArdle ; Raymond was alierwards a mt niber of the Commiiiee, and is since made Leather Inspector— knows nothing of Raymond's character ; knows nothing against him ; he has always appeared civil ; never had any conversaiion with Raymond about persons coming on from Philadelphia ; I never told Rays mond to send McArdle to me; I have no recollection of ever having heard McArs die's name mentioned under any circumstances ; I know of no transaction of Noah Cook's giving any person the charge of some men at National Hall, to attend the 65 p6]\s ; I never heard any thing in relation to Mr. Blatchford and others writing to Mr. Glentworih at Philadelphia to stay brinsrins: men on here ; I do not kno\V otany men being at the Alms House in the fall of 1638 from Philadelphia; I do not know of any clothes, old or new, beinsj sent to any committee room to be used dnring the tlection, cither from the Alms House or any other place ; I recom»i mended Glentworih, as did, I presume, others recomiiiend him for his office ; I did not put his application upon the ground of extraordinary services rendered by him for the party ; I think I wrote to the Governor for him; 1 do not recollect whether I have received a letter from him about his office, either before or since his appointment ; I do not remember whether, subsequent to his appointment, he wrote to me a letter about his reappointment or in relation to some attempt made to remove him ; I think he did write to me something about fears he enters tained about being removed; I have not the letter ; it is not in my possession, nor under my control ; I do not know what I did with it; I do not recollect whe> therl can give a line of that letter ; I do not remember that Gleniworth made threats in the letter that he would make disclosures if he was removed ; I do not recollect that I showed the letter to ivtr. Bowc" ; I may have done so, as we weremlimate; I may ha ve left the original letter with Bowen ; I do not re- collect receiving a letter coniaining a threat that he would make disclosures if he was removed, or anything of the kind ; I do not remember calling upon Mr. Bowen to get him to write to the Govjrnor to retain Glentworih, yet it is very likely I may have done so ; I do not think I wrote to the Governor in relation to the siibject ot his removal ; I have no recollection of having done so ; I do not know of any other means that prevented Glentworih' s removal other than those ot common decency, which would prevent an active, usefal politician bemg removed from an office he had so ably earned — I am confident that no funds went from the Young Men's Committee to Mr. Glentworih, as if it had I should have remembered it ; I do not know Bela Badger ; although I do not know that Mi; Glentworih rendered extra- ordinary services to the party, yet he was an active and useful member of it; I now remember I have known Mr. Glentworih since 1834; ' ROBERT C WET MORE. Sworn this 22d day of October, 1840, before me, ROBERT H. MORRIS, Recorder of tiie city of New York. Hobert Swartwout appeared according to the subpcena, and being duly sworn, saye ; Knows J*mes li^ .Gleulwonh, Tobacco Inspector of this city ; I was passenger in the car for Philadelpfiia with Gleniworth, in ihe fall of 1828, and I think in the month of October, between the 15ch and25lh ; we met accidentally as to me; I accompaiiird him to see per- sons in Philadelphia alter we anived there — the only person 1 acconjpanied him tu see was ttie Mayorof Philadelphia, Mr. Swift; I intoduced him lo Mr. Swifi ; I do not know what liis business- was wiili tlie Mayor of Phi adelphia; they did not converse in inv pres- ence upon business ; I told the Mayor that Mr. Glentworih tiad relentworth was about some three days before the elec* tion of November, 1838— Raymond may have spoken often in this hapshazard way : we 67 are going to have some men here (o vote, and you tako care ol them- 1 had a memoran • rium of the names oi the persona which were given to me— Noah Cook, 1 think, gave me the memorandum of the names of the men— he gave mc tliis at Naiional Hail, or it may have been given at that time by the other person I have spoken of, whom I do not know— I have not to my knowledge seen the other person since— I have never seen any of the gang of them that 1 ha' I, tliat I know of since— Raymond asked me next morning, that is the first day ofihe elociion, what had become of them— in fact he knew it. because he was attached to the Aims; Hou>e— Raymond said to me, there are men going ro hi here to vote, and you had better go and see Glenl worth and lake charge of ihem. The imdersianding was for Cook and the other man, that some one was to come to the Sixteenth Ward and take the men— -I was to attend to the men at the Sixteenth Ward poll- there was a man to come and fake them after they had voted aithe Sixteenth Ward— alll had to do withtliem waste take them to vole in the Sixteenth Ward— Raymond was then at the polls of the Sixteenth Ward, and asked what had become of the men— Raymond supposed that they had cut and run and went off— which is the last I heard of it. PATRICK McARDLE: Sworn this 22d day of October, 1S40, before me. ROBERT H. MORRIS, Recorder of the City of New York. City and County of New York,ss : John F. Raymend, of the city of New York, beinp duly sworn, deposeth and says, he is now Leather Inspector of the city of New Y'ork. I know. James B. Glentworth, Tobacco Inspector ol the city of New York. In the fall of 18?8, I was connected with the Alms House establishment at Bellevue, in the city of New Yoi k, and was during November, 1838. I know Patrick McArdle ; he was attached at that time to the criminal department at Bellevue ; I know Noah Cook, who was elected a mem- ber of tne legislature for this city in she fall of 1838; I knew Glentworth in the fall of 1838 : Noah Cook is a forwarding merchant; I do not know that James B. Glentworth procured persons to come here and vote at the fall election of 1?38 ; 1 never had any conversation with him upon that subject in my life. It was talked ol that Mr. Ingersoll and Mr. Brown were organizing persons to come here and vote the loco foco ticket ; that Glentworth had gone to Philadelphia to get men to come here lo watch the polls, and prevent the other persons voting : whether Glentwoith succeeded in getting men, 1 do not know from my own knowled-^e, but I heard he did- This conversation might have been with Noah Cook; I heard that Patrick McArdle had a gang of men under his charge in the Sixteenth Ward ; and my impression was they were part of the men GieiUworth had got^ this I heard from McArdle himself ; i might have told McArdle that Glentworth was to have men come from Philadelphia, and that he, McArdle, must take care of them. I had this conversation with McArdle while Glentworth " as in Philadelphia, as I suppose ; I did not see McArdle on the night previous to the election of November, 1838, unless I saw him bef ire he had seen Glentworth. I think McArdle had his instructions from another man, not from me ; 1 heard in difTeren*. committee rooms, and from Noah Cook, that persons were to come and be at the different polls, from Philadelphia and New Jersey, to prevent illegal voting; to watch the opposite party. There were some such men I know from New Jer- sey, attending the Sixteenth Ward poll. My impression at the time was that there was aa enterprise on hand to get illegal votee, and that the men which McArdle had under his care were to put in illegal votes if they could be successfully managed. I heard a great deal about Glentwortn's being gone at the time, and I heard Noah Cook say a letter^had been sent to him, that i 'he had gone any farther than to get men to come and watch the poll and prevent illegal votes against the whig ticket, he must stop and go no farther about it, and this I heard while Glentworth was gone, and before the election. I did not, according to uiy impression, see Glentworth alter his return from Philadelphia before or during the election. 1 now remember that the day after the election, or very soon after, I heard Glent- worth speaking of McArdle's ineficiency, and said he was not the man for him, as the en- terprise had failed through nis inefficiency. After the election, the amount of money said to have been spent by Glentworth was spoken of in many places in my presence. It was eaid he must have appropriated some of the moneys to his own use, and had not applied it as he was to have done, and as he stated he had done. I think Robert C. Wefmore was the person who gave the directions to McArdle. My impression is, I sent McArdie to R. C. Wetmore to get his directions about the men ; I should think it was the day previous to the election that I so sent him ; I heard it said in conversation among u?, that it was sup- posed we had got in enough illegal votes to balance the illegal votes put in by the other party ; this I may have heard from Robert C. Wetmore, Noah Cook, Henry W. Havens, or Glentworth, but am not certain it was either of them. Mr. Robert C. Wetmore told me to tell McArdle to meet him; that he wanted to have McArdle meet him, and that there would be some men to be put in his charge. First conversation I had with Mr. Wet- cnore was that Glentworth had gone to Philadelphia and would get some men, and that McArdle was to take charge of them. I gathered from the conversation, though J cannot .give the words, that the men were to come on here and vote illegally at the then conriog election. JOHN F. RAY^MOND. Sworn this 22d day of October, 1840. before me, ROBERT H. MORRIS, Recorder of the City of New York. Simeon Draper, of No. 10 Warren street, merchant, was then sworn and examined : 43,- Do you know James B. Glentworth 1 A. Before answering any questions, I am now in attendance before the Special Justice for preserving the peace of the city of New V ork, under and by vir. ue of a subpoena signed iy RobertH. Morris, Recorder of .the ^;ity of New York. First protesting as a citiceu 69 against the authority of the tribunal before whom I am summoned, as an arbitrary and JTItf- gal body, usurping powers in violation of civil rights, and of the laws under which they asv sume to act, I profess uiy readiness to answer all and every question it may be their plea- sure, under iheir usurped powers, to propose Recorder. In future, I desire the Cierfe to strike out tlie words Special Justices from the subpoenas, so that it may appear that the parties are summoned only before me, as in fact they are. Mr. Whiting. This is another specimen of what we had to-day. Recorder. I don't consider it necessary that there should be any argument on the sub* ject. Mr. Whiting. If Mr Draper thinks this an illegal tribunal, I will not examine him orask him any question, until he comes to some tribunal before whicii he considers himself bound by the solemnity of an oath. Mr. Draper then ^ard, I wilUlate that the protest entered by me, in answer to the sugges- tions made by the District Attorney, is not intended in any way to prevent a full investiga^ lion, so far as lies in iny power, of my conduct, or that of others, in reference to the subn ject'matter under consideration ; ard I sincerely believe in the efficacy of the oath ten- dered to me by the Recorder on this occasion ; and under which I consider myself ac^ countable to the laws, and to my Creator, fur the truth of what I might state under that oath ; and that it is not my object or intention to arrest the enquiry, but as ihe District At-> torney declines asking me any questions, I do intend to make a statement to the public, fall in every respect, under iny oath, to be taken before his Honor the Reconler. Upon this explanation being given, the District Attorney proceeded with the examina'+ tion. Q. Do you know James B Glentworth'} A. I do. Q. How long have you known him 1 A. Three or four years, I suppose. I don't recollect exactly. Q,. Did you not know him as early as 1"- 34 1 A. I do not think I did. I may, however. Q.. Did you, in the fall ofl8.38, just preceding the election, or at any other time, draw a draft or drafts, or procure to be drawn a draft or drafts upon Charles Gill, of Philadelphia^ or any other person, for any amount of money, which were, or were t > be given to Glent^i worth ? A. Glentworth called at my house on a Saturday evening preceding the election in the fall of 1838, and requested mp to give him a draft or letter wliick would enable him to ob- tain money in PJiiladelphia, offering to give me New York c'lecks or bank bills for ihe same. I gave him a draft, or letter wliich was tantamount, lor tile sum he paid me, on William, nor Charles Gill. Q,. For What amount was yoiir letter or draft? A. I cannot say exactly, l>ttt tliink it was less than S 1000; as near as I can recollect $600 but it might have been more. Q,. Did you at that time give him any other draft, furnish him winber of no one at the lime ho was there. Q, Had Gl. tiiworih arrived in thiscily Irom Philadelphia on that day, to your knowlcdgo, iDformation or belief? A. I have no rccollection,or knowledge, or information that he did. Q Had he bffcn previously to Philadelphia on any business in which you had taken any and what intercBt? 69 A. 1 think he had been to PliHadelphia I never have been interested in private bxi^U bess with Mr. Glenfworth. I think he had been at Philadelphia, bur, on no business at mine nor at my instigation, nor undei ujy advice or wiih my knowledge when h^ winit QL Had you ever, previous to that Saturday night, given your drafts lo Mr. Gleatworth in exchange for checks or money, at your house') A. Not that I remember. Q. Did Glentworth at any time and when communicate to you tlie object of his visit to Philadelphia J A. He did on one visit, I don't know which. He told me one time what he was going on for. Q,. What did he tell you he was goin? on for 1 A. He stated to me tliat he had ascertained through his friends in Philadelphia, amongst others, the ex-Mayor, Col. Swift, tiiat the officers of line Police had diFcovered that a veiy important arrangemant had been made by ilie then Collector, the Postmaster, Mr. Ittgersoll, and I think a Mr. Brown, to send on some three hundred persons to this city to vote the Locofoco, or Administration ticket ; that there had been a regular ofSce open- ed in or near Chestnut street, where men were taken, barganed for, and sworn to come to this city to vote, and that it was utterly useless tor the whig party to attempt ta carry the election, unless these men were prevented from carrving out this fraud ; that he had learned through Col. Swift the names of some of his old officers, and obiained from them the knowledge of these facts; that they, the officers, were the only persons wha could detect them, and they could do so as they had all the particulnrs, had seen the oath andhstot names, and understood the entire operation. And he said in consequence of this he was going on for the purpose ofmaking arranitements to bring on men to identify and detect the illegal voters who were reierred to above. Q. Did you at the time believe this statement of Glentworth's, and that the gentlemen named as being concerned in tliat business were so engaged"? A. I then belieVedthat there had been a bargain made lor illegal votes by the opponents of the whig party, and I believe now, that such an arrangement was made. I shall not give any opinion as to the precise individuals who were engaged in it, without a more thorough investigation. I have nothing but rumor to add to the testimony, further thau Glentworth's saying so to me. Hissayinji so was considered sufficient to call for this ex- amination; whether it shall be taken in evidence against the individuals! shall leave the public to judge. Such was the statement made by Glencworth, and 1 acted upon iiso far as I did act. Q. Did you not disbelieve that Mr. IngersoU and the gentlemen named were engaged in such an arrangement 7 A. I do not remember what my opinion was at that time in reference to any of the indi' viduals named, except as the^ were included in the statement made to me by Glentworth, I do not wish to reflect at all on the character of these gentlemtu, and at the same time I do not wish to weaken the statement made by Glentworth Q. Predicated upon that statement, what did yon do 1 A. I can fix upon no positive aci at this moment, further than before stated, except to ad- vise and assent to the carrying out of the plan. Q,. How long was your assent to the carrying out of this plan given previous to the elec tion 1 A. I do not remember— I cannot tell Q.. State as nearly as you can how many days it was before you gave him the draft on Philadelphia 1 A. I am not sure that it was not on the same day. Q. Do you remember the answer you gave Glentworth on his disclosing to you the fraud he spoke of? A. I do not recollect making hiir. any answer. Q,- Had you an interview with Glentworth at any lime previous to the night you gave him the draft, in which the coming election was the subject of conversation 1 A. I had Irequent conversations with him during the period of preparations fur the elec tion. Q. In any of those conversations did he tell you of any plan that could be resorted to to defeat the contemplated fraud 7 A. No further than the plan before alluded to. Q. Are you positive that you did not know that Glentworth was or had been in Phila- delphia in relation to the election, until the Saturday night you have before spoken of 7 A. I did not know tliat he had been to Philadelphia before 1 saw him on Saturday mght, and as I Understood from him, for the purpose heretofore stated. Q,. When, previous to.that Saturday nignt, did he tell you he had been (here on businesst A. I believe I before stated I could not recollect. It might have been on that day. Q,. Did he tell you at the first interview that he did or could make such arrangements 7 A. I think he said he had seen the parties, and had so far progressed ^that it required nc^ ihfng but money to finish it. Q,. Did he tell you by whose authority he made these arrangements7 A. I do not remember that he did tell mc particularly the individuals, but I understood that he was acting as a member of a committee. Q,. What committee 7 A. One of the whig committees of this city. I don't know which. I had nothing to do with it. I was not in a whig committee at the time. Q, Did you understand from what he said, what committee he meant 7 A. I understood him to mean one of the standing committees of one of the twowhigor- gauizations » the city— the seniors or juniors. 70 A. I know ofnoarransemonf made with these men, of the character referred to by the District Attorney, nor anv other arrangement in any way whatever .aflfocting their con<]uct here in that par.'icuiar. I want to add to that Ido remember that it was distinctly stated that there was an ortfanizilion g >\ up by the loco fcco or administration party at that time, where a mark of ink on ihe ear was understood to desitinate them at the poll, and have no e High Constable:: and police officers 1 A. I don'lthink he confined himself to them, in his rt-presentaf ions. Q. Well, did he say how many would be constables and police officers, and how many citizens— I mean private citixens? A. Hfi never went into detail with mo on that subject, lhat I know of. Q.. Who was to receive the men when they were sent on to New York, and assign them their rcHpcciivi! places? A. l( I speak as for absolute knowledge, I do not know. Q,. Please to mate all the knowledge, information, and belief, whether obtained at that time or at any ottier time, upon tlrut subject. A. I understood and believe that some of the men were in charge of Noah Cook ; I haTO n fcfieh his a/Rilavit, 1 think, confirniiiig my impressions. 1 have no knowledge farther than thatwliich was communicated to mc by Glentworih, and obtained Through a rumor at that time ; and within the last[few days Glentworih has stated to me that Mr. Cook had charge o( Bome of the men in 183S. Mr. Cook admits the truth of this assertion. Q. Were these m-^n to wear any oui ward mark, or were they to give any sign, when at the polls, by which they could be known 1 Q. Did not Glentworih tell you that he was one of the young men's standing commiitee 1 A. I do not recollect that he told me so. Q. Did he not lellyou that it was by authority of the committee to which he belonged, that he made the an angetneni? A. I do not recollect whether he did or not Q, You have stated in a previous answer, that you think he said he had seen the parties, fcna had so far progressed as to require nothing more than money to finish it. Who else Was present when he said it besides you 7 A I do not remember exactly who it was. I think Blatchford and Bowen, and one or two others were present Q. At what place was this stated 1 A. I think it was at the corner of Broad street, in Wall street, up stairs, which was the head quarters of the whigsatthe time. ^. What was said on the subject of money at that time. 1 A. I know nothing about U, except at that time there was a general disposition express- ed to obtain money for the purpose. Q,. Did you ccme to any conclusion what should be done to raise money to be appro* t)riated to that object 1 A. We came to the conclusion at that time, or subsequently, to raise the necessary funds dr money for that purpose. ^ How much did you agree to raise ?- A. I do not remember any specific sum ; sufficient, however, to accomplish the objecti If possible. Q. How much was it stated by Glentworih, or any other gentleman, would be necessary accomplish the object? ioA. I do not recollect that any specific amount was stated Q. Who was to attend to its collection, and co whom was the money to be given, and hoW soon? A. I don't know that any particular one was specified for that particular business. It was to be given to Glentworth as I understood, but no particular time mentioned to my re« Collection. Q. W-^s each gentleman to collect what he could, and meet, and put it together at a sub- sequent time 1 A. To my knowledge and recollection no such arrangement was made. Q Were the money and checks given you by Gleniworth for the draft, the money which was collected for that object'? A. It is not in my power to tell wh^re GleniWorth got that money, but I presume he got It out of collections made for that purpose. Q. Did not Glentworth tell you so? A. I do not remember. The court then adjourned to this day at ten o'clock. — Journal of Commerce. D. A.— Q. Did you not know or have reason to beheve that some or all of the men that tame on from PhUadelphiavoted in this city 1 A. I did dot. Q.. Did you not know, or have reason to beUeve, that the arrangement Glentworth wan making in Philadelphia, was to hire men to come on to vote, previous to their coming on 1 A. I did not D. A. I would have that question read ; I want you to reflect on that, Mr Draper. Mr. Draper.— When yov say previous, I would say fears were entertained on seeing some letters from him, wiiich'led me, with others, to fear he might do so, to make me be- lieve there was a rossibility he might do so. Q. To whom were those letters written ? A. I do not recollect, but think that one was to Robert Swartv^out. Q. Do you know where those letters now are 1 A. I do not. Q,. Have you any information as to the person under whose control they are 1 A. I have not. Q,. Had you those letters in your possession when the letter of the 31st October, 1838, Was written 1 A. I had not. Q.. How long before that letter was written had you seen these letters of Glenlworth's 7 A. I think in the morning of the same day. Q. Did you see them both ti^gether ? A. I do not remember. I think they were both in the Committee room together in my presence, at the corner of Wall and Broad streets. Q. Do you know who exhibited them at the Committee room 7 A. I do not know. Cl. What were the contents of those letters as near a.s you can slate it? A. Such as to draw forth my answer of the evening; 1 cannot sny exactly. How much money, in all, had been furnished to Glentworth previous to the writing of that letter? I will call it your letter. A. 1 don't remember any farther than I have before testified In relation to the money- 72 Qt Was the inorifty covered in your draft furnished to Glentworth previous to the Vjrlji tlhg of your letter 1 A . I thiak it was Q, Was there $200 sent on to him at the time this letter of the 31st September wasae&tl Mr. Aitree— October. District Attorney — October, I should say. A. My impression is that this ieiter was not sent on at the time of the money . I dori'J tecollecf, however. Q, State all your knowledge as to that ^200, how, by whom, and when it was sent to' G lent won hi A It was se»t by Mr Ford ; I do not know what his first name is ; I think it was sent to Glentwonh by Mr. Biatchf ]rd ; I do not recollect whattiay. Q. How long before your letter 1 A. I cannot |iarticularize the time. It was paid by Mr. Blatchford, it came fromhiiri,and I think it went on with myself and Mr. howen tj What instruction did you and Mr Uovven give to Mr. Ford to be conveyed to Mr. Glentworih 1 A. I do not remember the precise instructions ; it was in eflfect, however, to stay pro- ceedings of his in reference to the object of his iourney. Q. What were the S200 sent for'? A, If I remember right, to comply with promises Which had been madeto'some of the police olhcers who had made revelations to him. Q, Where does Mr. Ford reside 1 A. I do not know, but presume his name is in the Directory ; I have never seen him since that time to my knowledi^e. Q. Is he engaged in any business 1 Why did yon judgp. it necessary then to send a s[)e* cial messenger to Glentworth, instead of enclosmghim the money 1 A. 1 think there was no mail ; no regular mailcouid reach him at the time he Wanted the information to be given him. Q. Wiih whom did Gleniworth correspond in this city, on the subject of these arrange- ments! A . I do not know that he kept up a correspondence wiih this committee, if at all. Q. How long before your interview with Glentworth at your house, did you send Ford to' Philadelphia ? A . I do not remember ; I think it was after that he went to Philadelphia, not before. Q. How long after that t A. I cannot tell. Q,. Now, sir, did not Mr. Ford leave this city on Friday, and did not Mr. Glentworth re* tarn to this city the next day, Saturday ? A; If is impossible for me to say. Q. Where was Ford intstructcd that he could find Glentworth at Philadelphia! A. I do not know. Q Do you know where the money came from, or who furnished it, that was carried td Mr. Gleniworth by Mr. Havens ? A. Until I saw Mr. Havens' affidavit, I never knew of any transaction between him and Glentworth in reference to money, or any thing elsn. Q,. What was the conversation, state it, which took place between you and Glentworth on the Saturday night you gave him that draft 7 A. I had no conversation with Mr. Glentworth, except in reference to his giving me a draft It is impossible for any man to recollect a conversation which took place two years' before? Q.. How came you, sir, after writing that letter ontheSlst October, to permit these mea to come on here from Philadelphia without disclosmg 1 [Mr. Draper submits whether he is on trial. He is asked as if he could control all the people in Philadelphia.] The Court overruled the question. Q,. In this letter of y .urs, y( u say you arc ready to submit to the expenses Which Glent* worth might have incurred in his preliminary arrangements. Why, if he had already beerf furnished with the funds you Irave spoken of, did you make this statement to Glentworth 1 A. To prevent any farther expenditure than the expenses which had already accrued. Q. Was the instrument thaiyou gave to Mr. Glentworth on Saturday night spoken of, a letter or draft! A. I have before stated that I could not tell; that is easily to be ascertained. Q,. Now, sir, was not th*t draft or letter given to Mr. Glentworth on Saturday, the 3d day of Neveniber, 1838 7 A. My Impression is that it was before that— I cannot recollect the date. Q,. I understand you that that draf; was given on tlie Saturday night preceding the eled- tbn. [Minutes referred to, but the witness's words were U Saturday mtht ] Q The Saturday that y , j gii^e that draft, I understand you, was on the same Safardajr night that vou went to the Committee rocm. [Strike out that ] Did you make any entry of that draft on Mr. Gill on your hooks 7 A. None whatever. I remitted the funds, I think on the Monday following of the amouniofthe draft or bill with the funds paid to me by Gleniworth. Distrir-t A'loi ney — That is all, sir. I am dcHlroua to state, before cloKlng my testimony, that 1 have given it to the beat of my recollcetion ; the time which has elaps d, however, may have obliterated from my im mory the precise day and date, hours or minutes. It has been staled in some of the newspapers that the memory of Mr. Hiatchford was conv sniently short. I desire ihcre- fure most eolemnly to declare that no answer of mine was made to cover any fact withlQ 73 raj knowleJge, or give any other than my full testimony so far aa my memory servet cue. 8. DRAPER, Jr City and County of New York, ss : William A. Lflwrence and Jonathsin Naf lian. of the city of New York, beinsi sevei ally duly sworn, lio each for hims^ll respectfully srv, anmes B GiiMit worth, and has known him for seven to nine years. Had no knowledge, either dirt^ctly or indirectly, that he was in Philadelphia in the tall of that year lo procure mentn come to this city to preserve the purity of the elections. " I will (ell you, however. all'I .lo know— hs in his usual braggadocia manner intimated to m*^, that he was going on for some politi- cal purpose, that would tel! for the whig party " This. I helieve, was in the fall of that year, and was said in s^im on to Philadelphia. In a few days after tie returned, and (old me he had been liringiiig on some Hessians I was astonished at the reiitark, as I saw in a moment the object of it. I lold him to hold Ids 'oi'goe — that he ought to be ashamed of his conversation and conduct both. I then told him I could pick out every man of them then on board the boat— to satisfy hiiu that I cnuld do it, I took hirn on the forward deck of the boat, and poinlefl out bv a sign, all of them except one. He said he ha t>aineeinj! in .Scurii. Fourth street, between Lombard and So uih ; he there saw from 30 to 50 men ; Mr. Young, rh> then an ' now high constable of Philadelphia, came in ; Youiig asked us if we wanted togotoNew ^ oik. and said he wuuld give us $30 apiece, he did not .i ii> (he Second Ward poll. I there sa.\': a nnmber of Piiiladelphians that had eorne on with ine, others that Ua'i come on iheriay brfore, and others that 1 did not ex* ppcr. <\h=c!' wf-re the riiiladelnhia up-to\vn men; we began talking among ourselves, and a--koHwho hid voted and who' had not. Some said that they hadliot voted ; others said that fhey had vdted two or three times, and meant to vote as many times again. Among the p'^rs'>nr •? ihi^re, was .Tnhri Hazzard, O' Donnelly, Robert Reynolds, and a number of oiliprs, amonntin<> to eieht or ten, whose names deponent does not now recollect. We leff fhVre [Deponent lipre refuses to state it he voted at the Second Ward poll, on the srrnind that th", answer niiz'K T'Mil to crimiaate him] We wen' down the street a short distance, and turned to the ri-rht to another poll, which he thought was ihe Third Ward poll: there was two or tnree persons wi h me— Robert Reynolds'was with me ; there was a larce porflv gentleman there, hunting drab coa' and clothes, and large red face ; he gave Robert Reynolds a'ickftto vote. >Ir. John Reynolds, who is here now, got np and said he had better not vote that ticket, and told him the consequences. Finally, John Rey- nolds got the ticket out of his hands, and tore it up. Two persons voted at this poll. Ro- bert Reynolds was one; he came on from Phikidplphia the day before me; [cannot an- Bwer as to others, as the answer miirht lead to criminate him ] The large man puUedout his pocket book, and nave to Reynolds some money— one or two dollars, he thinks. The large man then sem Reynolds h;«ck to the Second VVard poll, the first deponent spoke of, and told him to 20 up stairs ; at the front door room, he would see a gentleman dressed in hNck. dark hair and blick whiskers; he appeared lo be a very young man; deponent w*>nfv»ith Reynolds; there were two rickets got there and voted at the poll. From the room whe-e we got the ticke's, we all went down stairs into a side door— the tickets wer-^ put into the baliot box Robert Reynolds was one that voted here. From there I went out by th*" front door, and met a friend of mine, Mr. Lewis, from Philadel- phia Mr RpvnoVls discovered Lewis, and left !iie. Lewis called me one side, and said, d.> von know fhaf you arc s'led 1 1 asked hUn for what. He replied f.->r voting where I had no risht. Tdeni'^di'. He said there was no use in denying it, that i^Ir. Bailey bad seen me Tote, and that a Mr. Harrison was going t<> have me taken, and advised me to go off, for a1thou2h T had acted bad. he did n t wish to see ine injured. I told him I could not go then. He asked me to wa'k u:)to T juimany Ha l with him ; on tlie road he wanted me to tell the tiu'h.and sai l I should not beinju'-ed I then related to Lewis all I knew about tt-prettv much the same as I have relntefl here. Lewis took me to Tammany Hall, where t m°t a ffood many p<^rsnns, and we got drinking Tl>e story then sot pretty gpne- rally abou' the Ha 1. 1 told a gentl'^nvan that I saw last nisht, and whose address is 86 Pearl street, and w!io was at Tanunany Hall at that time, he, Mr. Lewis, myself, and some other person went down to the Second Wiird poll— Mr. Lewis >fisked me to no up stairs to see if I could not cet another ticket-, I wont oi) stairs ar.d saw tlie same gentleman that gave me tickets before ; he said so down by the opposite corner and I wii! see you m a few moments; T went down and L'ot into C'>nversation with Mr Lewis and this 2entiemj.n— the gentlemari from th'^ room soon came down to mean.i called me from Mr. Lewis ; he save me a ticket and note to 20 to -atic headinvt. the names of the democratic cewididates all scratched out, and the names of the opposite party wrofp fine y wi'h a pen. I ihrn went buck to Tammany Hall, and stayed thereuntil three o'clock- C"l McCaii > came in, from Philadelphia, andtoldme that it won d STve me a good deal of dilficu'ty if I would make oarh to this L with some reluc- tftnce, ncreed to it ; afterwards he started me to go to the Police office to make oath; I was arrested at the Police after I got there: I whs put in prison and kept there for two terms and disctia ged by proclamation. Mr. Lewis or Mi. McCann got the ticket and note while T w s in pri-on ; I was visited by several persons ; Assistant Alderman Crolius, of the Sixth Ward, save me the range of tlie prison, and seemed to cake a good deal of inter- est to iret me clear After 1 was discharsed. some pers>ins at the court door, ns 1 was leaving it, ra^-t me and took me down towm, in the nr-ishborhood where the gr. ai fite was, to a house, in the first or pcrood stor^ cannot say winch, w^-ierc I saw a iren!leiii:«« who paid me twenty-five dol- lar."?, in five dollar bil's; at the snme time stat.'d that 1 had done wroni— to go home and ne- ver -how mv face a? un in New York ; I then went home. I do not know how it was con- trived that I should be dischargifd by prociamadon Oi-p 'ucnl did reail the contents of th« note thnt was given him 10 so to the Fouith Ward poll, and its purport was not to challenge Marks'e vote ; was n' tmld that the person to whom he was to give it was a challenger.— The friend that wen/ wi h me afYtr my discharge went up stairs first, and shortly reiurn.Ml and told in - that the man wantend that eav<^ him the five dollar bills Ueyaold'-^ nanie was ask^d at the polls- he gavp a name, but I believe if was not iiis ow i name. I do nor know how many votes were given in, but some of the Philadelphia party slated that some of them had voted e'ght or ten vo'es. I arrivedon Tuesday and was arrested on We lnesdiv. MVER H. MARKS. Sworn, the vGth day of October, 1S40, before nu-, ROBERT H. MORRIS. Recorder of the City of New York. City and County of Npw York^ts: Myer H.Marks, after having left the room for aome minutes, returnod.and be^ng farther sworn, says he wishes to make an explanation. That be wa« told by the friend that was with him that a check was given to a bey. Thiii depo- 75 nent farther says, the hoy, in deponerii's presence, returned with rhc fiye $5 bills, which were handed to the gentleman, and by him panl to the deponent, Mr. Ureyfous, when I sot out, tDld me he ud lersioodfroin in/ frioa I that a check had been sent out with a boy ; I then remembered ihat was the cise. Mr. Edmonds was also present. MYER H. MARKS. Sworn, this 26th day of October, 1S40, before me. ROBERT n. MORRIS Recoider of the City of New York. City and County of New York, 3s : .I)haP. Reynolds, of the district of Southwark, in the county of Piiiladelptna, beiui^ du y sw irn, do h dep )se and say, that Charles Strine came to mo in the affernooriof ttie Saturday last precedm;^ the election in the ciiy of New York, in the fall of IS3S, and as^e I m^ how I would li. to New York ; that I replied would like very well to go, but had no money ; th it Srriiie ihen informed ino that my e.x- penses W)uld be piid.and money besides; thit I rep ie 1 tliat such an arrangement would suit me, as I had business in New York, and wanted to go there any how ; that I then asked Strme what I w.is to do when I got in New York, and that Strine replied that would be told by James Youn^, the high constable, next evening ; that on Sunday evening there was a small meeting caUed at the house of Mr. John Glore, in Fourih street, corner of Ball Alley, in Southwark ; I was present at such meeting; that John Gore, Hart Marks, Wm. Satfron, Charles Sti iiie, James Young, George Moore. Georg'^ Rose, and James Re- menter, a d a number of others, were also there ; that Mr. Young then stated to us that he wished us logo on to New York ; thit he ha Mrs Pierce's, No 83 Division street, where he put up while in the city of New York; tha^ ai, the meetino: at John G )re's hoise, on Sunday evening, at South- wark, we elected him Captain ; that on the next Wednesday morning af;er arr iving in New York, walked down to a tavern m Chatham square, near the Franklin Theatre, and there met Vincent Taylor, oie of the piry who catn 3 on from Philadelphia; that Taylor asked me totake a wa'k, and we went down Cnatham street to Broadway, and then into Court- landt street to the Third Ward polls ; that we there met Hart Marks; that I asked Marks what he was going to do, and Marks said he was going to vote ; that I then told him not to do so, as he did not know what difficulties he iinght get in ; that Marl