gnfiETW£ENE nL P IE1 IE»? Two worthy Members.’ 3' *Ifnn1'i{di€tion of Parliaments in their pm. A .n Cc<:di—n gs , and in the alteration of "M, ; Government. . Wérjttgnn P} no :3 3 % Ch C-- no 9.. § 0 Q- 3- 0 V Printedgtlnndan -1642. 1, V — I t,_ f— ’ ¢ 0." " I , '. _ I \ ‘f 0 - ’ I ‘ - . ' ‘ ‘ .4 7 V -' ' "V: .7 ‘ . . - ‘ J ¥ _ 0. _ ‘_ _ . ‘ V C 9£9%49***;“i**°’$‘*’<*‘é%‘%49¥;$*¢é81%9£t*S4%$e:== A difcrcgtaricf juhdicious Difcoilrfc, bCtWccnc1\W IS 1) o M 1; and PI 5 T Y, ‘ two worthy Memberis, % C’ I I13‘-“I rcjojrc;emuch at out {o heip- ' +‘ V Fy meeting}; in this place5..I hope ‘ . “€1TUi‘€AV,1v'\ 1’%r/1‘ .',p ceive, Perle Mennk, which I underfléand .fignifi€S a A 2 {beech 3"”; vi“ " ¢*< 7- *3 3 r 5,} ‘£5 /V; / / __ ..-._ —""""’~ — » /’*~—....--§,.~".*. ‘‘'*?'‘‘''.'’‘~&Jj'{‘-*—*—flA- 1’ "T: ‘‘L ( 2) ‘ r fpeech of the Mincle,,contra€tecl Parlcgmen = or 'I?.a“r-[~« liarnenti; landl’ meane thereby a Councel. ofgravev and learned men , congregated» and allembled ‘ their Princes»command. and authority , to confult and debate freely , {peaking clearely what is~thcir< , mrinde and intentions 5 fuch things tending to the *‘ fafety and prof perity of their King and Countrey ,- _; and what forme of Governernent is meetelt ‘to bee ufed in the Church in the exercile of Religion. . A Piety. Iconceivc your definition ofthejword is ’ good , but I defire to know whether it bee in the - \ powerof fuck a Councell or Parliament, _to_ alter: the Governementofa Church, eflablifhecl $aIjrgllcon- firmed for feverall‘ ‘ageslitogether in. a Kin'gdome', a both by the-Princes thereof fucceflively,anda whole ‘...L\‘.a‘ A Gouneell of Stategathered together,aan'd a%f_{'e_1'ri-lbleola . ~ in Parliament. . L ' t if . , i . T = VV{[d0mt‘. To’ anfiverlelyourtrequeflgi: ‘~]Ifconceive it is: in the power ofa Parlliamtentgiwith their Princes 1 eonfent,'toalterfitheQbverniement gfthe Qhurjch;/;«.;_ I cangive you ihf¥an€¢‘§ Rcamiflw Religion was a longtime 'in tl3iS':Kingidome. praéiif fed and profefled, con'firn1‘eI;l t;by:.fe\?'erall Iiingsgand gs Parliamentsofthis. 8;.,yq3,_r,e, ofitlac ; raigne Offlmryi 8'. j”I_‘h‘e_n ”<;lid.t11at:.1?rince;ahd.,l1is 7 Parliaméflf begin toalt‘er tlié. Goilernernent of the : Church, anclin the 3;. of..hi_s raigineahee perfeéted 2: his infcntkonsini a totall change oftahe Government thereof: ekbo-liihed and demoliflied all places._ Of”; A Worlllips ?CCOtc'ling’ to the dofirine and difcipline- ’ ofkthe (3htureh‘0i;ioRon{ic,‘as Abbies, Monalleriesg , A Priories, , l ‘Pu-pry» A s ~ 43; -.... ,. (3):: ii demeanes appertaining‘ to the fame were given to the Crown5;as»alfo.thea worffhip, it felfe, This former ofGovernment‘ (attended onely with , tome Cere- r monies of the Church of Rome )9 continued this Kings raigne till Edward 6.. in whofe raigne was a further ands more perfeéter change in the Governe- mentof the "C hurch then before. Now was Bibles and other Divine bookes ordained by the King and his great Councell to be rranflated into the Eng/ifb tongue; a forme 0fCommon-y prayer made and con~ firmed by Parliament to bee iufed in the E nglzfb tongue 5, theradminifiration of the Eucharifle, ...and._ the Sacrament of Baptifme , iufed’ accordin as in the Ancient and Primitive Church; which ormer- ofigovcrnment and worfhip of God is {now callecl the t Prot'efiant{ Religion, .GQ\{eJ;:niflent—_-a»nd.. Alteration continued but a “ffihall"i ‘time .9. till" the ; raigne of Queene Mary waho-agiaine reduced Pope»-»— _ - '9 ry to its height in this Kingdome. This change c0n— . tinued till Queen B lizméet/roof bleflieyd-men1ory,who= » A againe fer up the Proreftant Church , which hath" “s ever fince till of late flourifhed in -this Kingdome;.. and thus you plainly fee a Pa‘rli’arnent~ may with the . confent ‘of their'Prince‘, alter the Government of the Churchgand the difcipline tliereoflto that formea s a which the Prince fiandsmofi affefied too.» Pier}. But pray S_‘ir,if a Catholique Prince Comev. to raigne over at Kingdome, wherein the Proteftant i Religion is altogether profeffed and efiablifhed :. Is -: it then in.,the power ofthc Parliament, withoutthe i A- s confents * '''/r-A~~ ‘Pi-iio'ries3—Ntinneries ',and the like: the landsand. J confent of the King, to. H137??? Igawcys §lI}_§1 ces for the-_confirrrr:2tlon o‘fft‘11err,Rel1gron, in the » . . Government,;Do*€?crif1e,'s£nd1Dil‘cipIjhe'tlietéOfi-L. -* Wzfdmmi Thisiquefironfis dfflitu’1t to be ,i,r.c:,»f<>,I-~, ved,;_znd Iieannot pI1in<5tually'die‘ferIf1.'iflC; 13hcteof5,b,ut - I conicefive**,i- mover ruch,als;a:e,;’n:.1:en,re ,b:ee_fuch gy- Prince,thiit is not :riné1tive‘oFt‘hé;tKingdorne, 2 Par- 3 _ liamentofrhe wl1ole,.State:-aiflerrgbled, ytnay withoutv - his confent eftablifh and confirtiiefthefanqi§I1t"L;3YVS: e. e- v. and Statutes of the Kingdomé, ‘for? the G’ov,erm-nen,t., , .7 0fthe”Church and State ‘: ‘But whether it! be fQ,_ifa “ native Prince, I cannot ‘c’ertainly”rel'olve; v» _, _ i Pig}. I verily beleeve the Par;1ia;I11:entA_pow;» er and authority %’t'o“chan_ge upon occafion ’. the-.G0.-4v~ vernment of ’the‘Church in contrary Religions}, as - before is in flsanced 55' but I.;ui1 not yet‘ fztisfied; wh _- ther at i Palrliament ,’ either Lwith i-contlént of the Prince,_?or:vVith5i5§,‘ Eaniélfeir at fame ofCvo‘verne-i ment :eft;1bli_flted‘l' in “a Kingfdoirne,cQncerning'-n one Religion; be itthe Protefhfint or other. , Wzfdamc. To anfiver this ,-,_I conceive the. Do- étrine ofethejChurCh cannot be altebred, for then we doe changeour Religion, and are not of the lime as before, but of a new’; but the‘Government and Dif- cipline of a Church maybe changed, according as the wifdome and policy oftlie State {hall finde the [ fame convenient or inconvenierxt, hur.t:ful»l or com- modious for the lime. . n ’ \ ~ - Piety, Nay, theTitles, PlaC€S O.ll'lces,.'Qf.y , of holy order beat thelpleafure of‘nParliamenty,",,,li'i cliangedgor quite taken away; being‘ offuch antiqui- V g . y 4 . ty ; I I . _ ,_......_ ——~ A x 1 ”"**“"(s)e ~ _ ‘ _._‘ .;— '.-l:‘_-j..r'>‘_v.'‘'‘ ; “.,'j‘_ t’ try: 1 ti.1’£;_ fC11I1_fCh, asf7‘Lord Brfhops, Btfhopsg, Arch- : deacons, De1néS',Prehéhds, ahhd the like,‘ ‘ W44’? W.... 1C0,U.C_C1h,\I€f’.‘ their ffitles khan- ? gedr, or taken aways as ords,_B,1fl1ops5j‘Archdea- on coh:zs,ee_8~Cc. for no fiich names are to be found in the F 1 Vemment Ofthé 5¢’F3k€afI ;fr0§fl3 Pzrti-= e . Scri ptute , or’ by. the fame warranted i Their places » ofboth Temporall and fpirituall Jl;£1ri{d1fl_€ti0I1 (as they are made the onely Governoursfof the Church . and of the State too) may if a State finde them hurt- a full afldiprejudiciall to the famegbieetakhen away. and Echanged ; but for their pirit;uaI1 fun€tion«s and ;Qffi- Ces of Bithops or Piiesbytersh, I‘C0_nceive the {lune e C3fiI10t be changed or t3kCfl‘.‘2_lW3.y¢ with {af<_:_tyL or fe~ cu~rity;5 't1;e‘fqle[ power..ahd jL1;;+‘11;;1t‘1‘¢§t LQH- :in: got. Curlar‘ p€rT0U$s °'C'a’nfd é.m1§1?ifiC¢,‘tQf‘§1:aye:-Di‘/,i11esav)oy~ 4164 ‘Wifhh #55111 iriflié .fi1;f1i¢)e ‘%?3j,‘11¢¥Y:i;fd.QH3£: ofthe Pat1ia1nent.,.fl1a1l. vfe‘e.rI1'e_1Il<~:ct-.. . A a - u ‘|::.- \i "§Pzety;ee~'But may a State‘ Pohttque an§1n:C‘1v1ll% c11a11ge¥,t}?1¢e §§?Y¢.1'.I1rnent of thC_'C h!1{C\l1*;éand\e*f%ablifl1 2i ?n€vv' fdrme of govern ment in thehfan1c,.w‘-it-h.01rtead- vife of a C0IJf1,.(;,‘€:,U!._‘_()r.1‘V.S}§11.Qd;.Q£IPiXi(1lC3S.‘.,fh¥?.t are grave and 1ear'h‘ed’; etéétéd and chofen out of every County of the Kingdome, and their confents to the change Ofgovernment in the C__h.urch.>‘ I/V:/Kama. j Nc