The testimony of-Sergeant Charles S. Riley, of Northampton, Mass., and
private William L. Smith, of Athol, Mass., formerly members of the Twent ysixth United States Volunteers, wasthe first evidence, under oath,,submitted
4o te Snat -Pilipin Inest at  Comitee which established thefact
useof orureundr he  nitd  tats fagin the Philipp es; for a
milthr uroe.I showed that this torture was syt    matcaly sdy
offces o rnk n heregular army, and that a squad of sbldiers was employed:
to spernten th opration known as the " water detail. "  This fact p roved
impotan ast wa strtlng.It was established on the morning of onay,~
Aprils~thand o  teaeroon of the following day a Cabinet meeting was
hel atwhch t ws ecided that the President and the Secretary of War
should announce to the public that a thorough investigation of all such
outrages should be entered upon.
The stenographic report of the testimony of Messrs. Riley and Smith, as
published-by the Government Printing Office, is as follows:
TESTIMONY OF CHARLES S. RILEY.
(Sworn by the chairman.)
By the CHAIRMAN:
Q.Are you now in the Army of the United States?-A. No, sir; I am not.
Q.You have been in the Army?-A. Yes.
Q.What regiment?-A. I was in the First Connecticut in 1898 for six
months, and afterwards in the Twenty-sixth Infantry Volunteers for twentytwo months.
Q. Wileyouwer inthe Twenty-sixth Volunteer Infantry were you in
the PhlpieIlns.A. Yes, -sir.
Q. Drin th whle eriod of your service?-A. Fbr-eighteen months.
Senaor RWLIN. 17have talked to this witness.
The CHAIRMAN. Very well; if you will examine him as to anything you.
want to ask we will be glad to have you. do so.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q.You have given your place of residence, I believe-.A. Northampton,
Mass
Q. When did you arrive in the Philippine Islands?-A. October 30, 1899. '
That is, we arrived in the harbor of Manfila on the 2 Sth and we arrived at out- ~
station October 30thi.
Q. When did you leave?-A. I went aboard the vessel March 4, X901,
and we sailed the next day.
Q. And when did you arrive in San Francisco?-A. April 20, 1 90 1.
Q.Durinigyourservicein the Philippin Islandswhatposition in theArmy
did you hold?-A. I heild all the positions from private to first sergeant., 1
was discharged as the first sergeant of the company.
Q.During your service there did you witness what is generally known. as
the water cure?-A. I did.
Q. When and where?-A. On No'femlber 2 7,'I900, in the town of Igbaras,
Iloilo Province, Panay Island.
Q. You~may state, Mr. Riley, what. you saw in that regard-A. The first
thing I saw that I thought was anything out of the ordinary, in going into the
quarters from downstairs-.V   -
Q. Let me premise that, perhaps. Was your company stationed at
Igba~ras?-A. One detachment of z S men garrisoned the town.
Q.An~dwhat bullding did you occupy?-A. It was l~nown as the convent,
the convent in connection with the church. It was a convent or a school.
Q. Did- you occupy the first floor or the second floor?-A. We. occupied
the entire bullding.
Q.The-entire-bulldingA. The entire building.      Teews
Q.You may stat wVether ter was anuper floor-A.K     hrews
Dwnstairs it was a stone~building, -with stne flo'ors, and then there was ai
second story; it was two ttories, 'and we occupied the- upstairs with our,
quarters..How was the second story reached?-A. By stone steps.
You may state whether or not there.,a a corridor at the head of the
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stairway.-A. There was a corridor on the right, and then we went through
another corridor into-the room we called our squad room, known as the quarters of the soldiers.
Q. Did you arrive there the morning of the 27th?-A. Yes, sir; at daylight.
Q. Who were with you at the time you arrived there?-A. There were
from 12 to 14 men of Company M, Twenty-sixth Infantry, and about 40 men
of the Eighteenth United States Infantry, a mounted detachment, known as
the Gordon Scouts.
Q. Did you pass into the upper story of this building?-A. What is that,
sir?
Q. Did you pass that morning into the upper floor of this building?-A.
Yes, sir.
Q. What soldiers and officers were there?-A. Taking all the men, there
must have been about 40 of the Twenty-sixth and about an equal number of
- the Eighteenth Infantry, regulars. about 40 of each.
Q. About 80 men in.all?-A. Yes.
Q. Who commanded your company?-A. Captain McDonald, of the
Twenty-sixth Infantry-Captain Fred. McD&nald.
Q. What other officers connected with the regulars?-A. Captain Glenn,
captain, Twenty-fifth United States Infantry, judge-advocate. Department
Visayas, commanded the forces, consisting of detachments of Eighteenth
United States Infantry, and the Twenty-sixth United States Infantry Volunteers.
Q. Was he judge-advocate under General Hughes?-A. Yes; that was
General Hughes's department. Then there was Lieutenant Conger, commanding the scouts, and the contract surgeon, Lyons.
Q. Did you pass up the stairway into the corridor above that morning,
into the main hall?-A. Yes.
Q. And as you passed up, you may state what you saw.-A. I saw the
presidente standing in theQ. Whom do you mean by the presidente?-A. The head official of the
town.
Q. The town of IgbaraT?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. A Filipino?-A. Yes,-sir.
Q. How old was he?-A. I should judge that he was a man of about forty
or forty-five years..
Q. When you saw him, what was his condition?-A. He-was stripped to
the waist; he had nothing on but a pair of white trousers, and his hands were
tied behind him.
Q. Do youf remember who had charge of him?-A. Captain Glenn stood. there beside him and one or two men were tying him.
Q. You may state whether or not there was a water tank in the upper corridor.-A. Just at the head of the stairs on the right there was a large galvanized-iron tank, holding probably Ioo gallons, about 2 barrels. That was
on a raised platform, about o or 12 inches, I should think, and there was a
faucet on the tank. It was the tank we used for catching rain water for
drinking purposes.
Q. As you passed up, did you pass through the corridor into the hall?A. Yes; directly through the hall into the squad room.
Q. Into the squad room?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. And you may state whether or not soldiers were passing up and down.
-A. Yes, sir; menawere congregated around the door.and they were passing
back and forth from downstairs upstairs and from upstairs downstairs.
Q. You first saw the presidente under the condition you describe, with
his hands being tied behind him?-A. Yes.
Q. What else did you observe being done with him?-A. He was then
taken and placed under the tank, and the faucet was opened and a stream of
water was forced down or allowed to run down his throat; his throat was
held so he,ceuld not prevent swallowing the water, so that he had to allow
the water to run into his stomach.
Q. What connection was there between the faucet and his mouth?-A.
There wvas no connection; he was directly under the faucet.
Q. Directly under the faucet?-A. Directly under the faucet-and with his
mouth held wide open.
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water to run down?-A. When he was filled with water it was forced out of
him by pressing a foot on his stomach or else with theirhands.
Q. How long was his mouth held open?-A. That I could not state exactly, whether it was by pressing the cheek or throat., Some say that it was
the throat, but I could not state positively as to that, as to exactly how they
held his mouth open.
Q. About how long was that continued?-A. I should say from five to
fifteen minutes.
Q. During the process what officers were present, if anybody?-A. Lieutenant Conger was present practically all the time. Captain Glenn walked
back and forth from one room to the other, and went in there two or three
times. Lieutenant Conger was in command of water detail; it was under
his supervision.
Q. You may state whether or not there was any Filipino interpreter present.-A. There was a native interpreter that stood directly over this manthe presidente-as he lay on the floor.
Q. Did you observe whether the interpreter communicated with this
presidente?-A. He did at different times. He practically kept talking to
him all the time, kept saying. some one word which I should judge meant " confess" or "answer.'
Q. Could you understand what was said?-A. No, sir; I could not understand the native tongue at all.
Q. At the conclusion, vwhat then was done?-A. After he was willing to
answer he was allowed to partly sit up, and- kind of rolled on his side, and
then he answered the questions put to him by the officer through the interpreter.
Q. You say they pushed the water out of him. How was that done —
what was the process?-A. I did not see the water forced from him. Some
said it was forced by the hand, and others by placing the foot on the stomach;
I didn't see the water forced from him.
Q. You did not see that?-A. No, sir.
Q. After he got up what did you next see?-A. It was after he gave all the
desired information. He was then untied and allowed to dress, and taken
downstairs in front of the quarters.
Q. Where did they take him?-A. They took him downstairs outside the
building, and he stood in front of the building, waiting for his horse. He was
to guide the expedition up into the mountains.
Q. While standing on the sidewalk what took place?-A. More information was sought for; and 'as he refuted to answer, a second treatment was
ordered.                       t^
Q. Where were you at that time?-A. I was in front of the building at the
time, on the sidewalk.
Q. In front?-A. Yes; on the stone walk. They started to take him
inside the building and Captain Glenn said, "Don't take him inside. Right
here is good enough." One of the men of the Eighteenth Infantry went to
his saddle and took a syringe from the saddlebag, and another man was sent
for a can of water, whaet we call a kerosene can, holding about 5 gallons. He
brought this can of water down from upstairs, and then a syringe was inserted
one end in the water and the other end in his mouth. This time he.was not
bound, but he was held by four or five men and the water was forced into his
mouth from the can, through the syringe.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. Was this another party?-A. No; this was the same man. The
syringe. did not seem to have the desired effect, and the doctor ordered a
second one. The man got a second syringe, and that was inserted in his nose.
Then the doctor ordered some salt, and a handful of salt was procured and
thrown-into the water. Two syringes were then in operation. The interpreter stood over him in the meantime asking for this second information
that was desired. Finally he gave in and -gave the information that they
sought, and then he was allowed to rise.
Q. May I ask the name of the doctor?-A. Dr. Lyons, the contract surgeon.
Q. An American?-A-A Yes, sir.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. Was it Captain Glenn who said' not to take him in?-A. Captain
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Q. 'Did he make any other comnand before that at that time?-A. Not
that I know of.
Q. Not that you recall?-A. No.
Q. How long did the second infliction of this torture continue?-A. About
the same as the first; from about five to fifteen minutes. I could not tell you
the exact time.
Q. How many men held this Filipino down when the first torture was
inflicted?-A. About four meh; one to each arm and one to each leg.
Q. Was this same interpreter present at the second infliction of the torture?-A. Yes, he was.
Q. What did he do?-A. He stood over him asking him-the same language used before until he was willing to confess, and then they stopped the
water. As soon as he made a sign, or soon as he answered that he would.confess, he was allowed to get up.
Q. Do you know what information they obtained from him?-A. The
question asked, the information they sought for, was as towhether runners or
messengers had been sent out notifying the insurgents of our arrival; and
not giving a satisfactory answer, or he refusing to answer, he was given this
treatment and then he acknowledged that he had done so, and as we entered
the lower gate one of his police went out at the upper gate notifying the insurgents that reenforcements were in the town, to be on the watch.
Q. First Lieutenant Conger and Captain Glenn were of the Regular
Army?-A. Captain Glenn and Lieutenant Conger, yes, sir.
Q. Captain McDonald and the men with you were of the Volunteers?A. Yes, sir.
Q. You went on an expedition, did you, after that?-A. Yes, sir; the
entire force that came there, except those who garrisoned the town, went on
the expedition to the mountains.
Q. Did you yourself ever witness any other infliction of the water cure?A. I did not.
Q. Did you have any conversation with the regulars who were present on
that occasion?-A. They talked freely as to other treatments that had been
given by them other times previous to that.
Q. What did they tell you as to the extent of the practice and the method
of its employment?-A. They cited a caseBy Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. Who is this now?-A. The regular soldiers.
Q. What regular soldiers?-A. The Eighteenth United States Infantry.
Q. But what man?-A. I do not know his name, sir.
Senator BEVERIDGE. Oh!
A. (continuing). I was not acquainted with them at all.
Senator BEVERIDGE. I think hearsay testimony is perfectly proper where
the witness will give the name of the person or persons from whom he heard
a statement, but where the witness can not give any names, then I do not
think it is proper.
Senator RAWLINS. I will pass to another subject.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. How large a town was this village of Igbaras?-A. I do not know how
many acres it covered.
Q. I do not mean how many acres, but about how many houses?-A.
From 400 to 5oo native shacks or bamboo houses.
Q. How long were you there after your arrival that morning?-A. We
were there until about 8 o'clock the next morning  We were in the immediate vicinity of the mountains back of the town. We-left there between 8 and
8.30 the next morning.
Q. What was done with the town?-A. After returning from the mountains the town was burned that night.
Q. By whose orders?-A. By order of Captain Glenn.
Q. How many houses were destroyed?-A. Practically the entire town,
with the exception of the church, the quarters of the soldiers, and about
twenty or thirty houses in the lower section of the town.
Q. How were those houses occupied?-A. They were occupied by native
families.
Q. Men, women, and chiflen?-A. Men, women, and children; yes, sir.
Q. Do you know what rea'6n, if any, was assigned for burning the town?
-A. On account of the condition of affairs exposed by the treatment.




Senator BEVERIDGE: How was that?
A. It was burned on account of the exposition of the affairs in the rmorning, the information received from the presidente, from the officials, ar'd the
town was burned in cbnsequence.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. You arrived in San Francisco when?-A. April 20, I90I.
Q. On your arrival there were you approached in relation to this matter
of the water cure?-A. I was called before the lieutenant-colonel commanding
the regiment.,Q. Who was he?-A. Lieutenant-Colonel Joseph T. Dickman, Captain
of the Seventh United States Cavalry.
Senator BEVERIDGo. Do you not mean Wickman?
The WITNESS. No; Dickman.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. What conversation did you have with him in relation to this?-A. I
think it was on the evening of the arrival, about 6 o'clock, I was sent for,
ordered to report to the lieutenant-colonel, and on reporting he stated he had
a letter from the War Department in regard to a letter I had written to the
Northampton "Daily Herald."  He showed me the signature that was under
it; and said he would send for me later. In about two days I was sent for
the second time and questioned as to whether I took part in the treatment.
I answered that I did not. He then asked me if any of the men with me took
part. I told him they did not. He meant by the men with me the men of the
company. I told him they did not. He said, "That is all." He spoke up
then, "Did you see the treatment administered?" I told him I did. He
asked me then why I did not give the other side of the story.., "Why did you
not tell of the outrages committed on our men?" and he cited two or three
-cases that I was familiar with, men of our own command being murdered. I
said it was not written for publication, but it was a letter written to relatives,
and that it had been published without my authority. I told him that it
was obtained and published without my authority at all. My name was
signed to it.
Q. That was published in what paper?-A. The Northampton "Daily
Herald."
Q. What further took place?-A. That was all in connection with that
letter.
Q. Do you know what, if any, report was made? Was that within your
knowledge?-A. Nothing was within my knowledge anything more than I
obtained from the papers.
Q. Nothing further occurred at that time?-A. No, sir.
Q. Have you given all the conversation that took place between you and
the Colonel?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you have any conversation with any other officer at San Francisco?-A. No, sir; not with regard to the treatment.
Senator RAWLINS. That is all I desire with this witness.
By the CHAIRMAN:
Q. Did you witness any other cases of this kind?-A. I did not.
Q. Do you know of any other cases?-A. Nothing any mdre than hearsay stories from other sources.
Q. Stories from people whose names you cannot give?-A. No, sir; I
cannot.
Q. Did the man who was subjected to this water cure die from the result?
-A. No, sir; he did not.
Q. Did he, so far as you know, suffer afterwardlsrom it?-A. Not to my
knowledge. He was taken prisoner afterward as' 1 I rwer saw him again.
Q. This was the only case you witnessed?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. The letter you wrote you have testified was a private letter.-A. Yes,
sir.
Q. Published without your consent?-A. Yes, si:-.
Q. Did you relate in that letter various crimes of violence, or only this
one?-A. I think only that one.
Q. In papers sent for by-the Committee and published here in regard'to
charges of.cruelty, on page 20 of the Senate Documents No. 205, is this statement:
"In a letter written by Sergeant Charles S. Riley, Comipany M, Twentysixth United States Volunteer Infantry, which was published in the North



ampton (Mass.) 'Herald' about March 8, 1901, in which letter the soldier
relat:d various crimes of violence against natives, it was stated that the water
cure was administered to extort information and that the town of Igbaras,
Panav, was burned to the ground."
You have testified as to that case of water cure and to the burning of the
town. The statement is "various crimes of violence against natives," and I
therefore wanted to know whether that was the only one.-A. I do not remember exactly what was in that letter further than I stated in there about
this water cure. I do not remember whether I stated other facts or not.
Senator RAWLINS. I have that letter, and that can be submitted. I did
not bring it with me this morning.
Senator BEVERIDGE. Will you bring it to-morrow?
Senator CULBERSON. You are, of course, reading from a Senate document, but what communication is it? Is it from the Secretary of War?
The CHAIRMAN. Yes sir.
By the CHAIRMAN:
Q. (Reading.)  "This publication called forth a number of letters to the
department protesting against such outrages. One letter, from Isaac
Bridgman, dated Northampton, Mass., March 13, I9OI, was on March 19,
1901, referred to the commanding general Department of California for reference to the commanding officer Twenty-sixth United States Volunteer
Infantry, upon its arrival in the United States, for report. This letter was
returned by indorsement of the commanding officer of the Twenty-sixth
United States Volunteer Infantry, dated April 24, I90o-, with his report, as
follows:"
And then to read further"Fourth indorsement. Headquarters Twenty-sixth Infantry United
States Volunteers, Presidio of California. Respectfully returned. Sergeant
Riley, Company M, Twenty-sixth Infantry United States Volunteers, states
that the publication inclosed was of a private letter and without any authority whatever."
This is Colonel Dickman's statement. That is correct, is it?-A. Yes,
sir. The letter was published without my authority.
Q. (Reading further.)  "The tendency of enlisted men. to draw the long.bow in such cases is well known. Major Cook, Captain McDonald, and Sergeant Riley state that no officers or soldiers of this regiment took part in any
so-called water-cure proceedings or other threats against the natives on the
occasion stated."
Is that correct?-A. Yes, sir; that is correct.
Q. (Reading.) " Undoubtedly there were violations of the rule and custom of war; and as the complainants may have overlooked notice thereof I
shall state a few cases within my personal knowledge. In November, 1899,
at Jaro, a large flag of truce was used to entice officers into ambush. By
order of the commander all persons displayed white flagsin the country where
our troops operated. This was not for protection, but to give warning to
insurgents to hide their guns and disguise themselves. Privates Dugan,,Hayes, and Tracy, of Company F, were murdered by the town authorities at
Calinog."
Is that true?-A. Yes, sir; that is true.
Q. (Reading.)  "Private Nolan, at Dingle, was tied up by the natives
while in a stupor. The insurgents were sent for and cut his throat with a
sangut." Is that true?-A. That is true; yes, sir.
Q. (Reading.) "The body of Corporal Doheny, of Company D, was dug
up, burned, and mutilated at Dumangas." Is that true?-A. I heard about
that.
Q. You know that from hearsay?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. (Reading.)  "Private O'Hearn, captured by apparently friendly
people near Leon. was tied to a tree, burned for four.hours with a slow fire,
and finally slashed up."  Is that true?-A. That is true.
Q. (Reading.)  " Lieutenant Max Wagner was assassinated on the road
to Pototan October i, by insurgents disguised in American uniform." Was
he in your regiment?-A. Yes; he was one of the lieutenants of the regiment.
Q. He was found killed?-A. He was ambushed; yes, sir. I do not know
about the uniform, but he was ambushed.
Q. (Reading.) "These are only a few instances confined to this regiment. Atrocities committed by Sandatajanes or Pulajanes are too numer



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ous to mention. Details can be furnished of the butcheries at Leganas and
Mina, and of burials alive near. Barotac Nuevo. The conduct of the American troops in the Philippines has been so humane as to be a continued source
of surprise to all foreigners and to the natives. Although General Orders,
No.,oo, has not been revoked, its provisions against treachery, according to
the law and custom of war of all civilized nations, have never been applied to
my knowledge.
"J. T. WICKMAN,
"Lieutenant-Colonel Twenty-sixth Infantry,
" U. S. Volunteers, Commanding."'
Senator CARMACK. Do I understand that any of those outrages were
committed by this presidente subjected to the water cure?
The CHAIRMAN. No, not at all; it is not stated so.
The WITNESS. These were outrages in other parts of the island.
The CHAIRMAN. They were outrages in other parts of the island,,
By the CHAIRMAN:
Q. What was the conduct of the men of your regiment-those whom you
saw-toward natives?-A. I did not see anything out of the ordinary. I did
not see any inhuman treatment; anything more than there naturally would be.
Any ill treatment against natives at all was by soldiers under the influence
of liquor. As a rule, soldiers in their sober senses treated the natives all
right.
By Senator CARMACK:
Q.. When they were sober they treated them all right?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. Do you mean that when they were drunk it was something otherwise?
- I'. There were reports at different times of trouble with natives on account
oJnmen drinking outside in the towns around among the natives.
'Q. What was the nature of such trouble?-A. Usually a fight; a free
hand fight, or something to that effect.
By/ the CHAIRMAN:
Q,' In the case of these fights and attacks on natives that you speak of,
werIe they punished for that conduct?
Senator BEVERIDGE. Put in the guardhouse?
Ae Sometimes they were, sometimes they were not; it all depended. If
a native reported it to the officers, it was invariably investigated. Sometimel the natives were found to be in fault, and if a man was found,to be in
fault te was usually punished.
B   Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. When he was in fault, he was punished?-A. Yes, sir..Our own men?-A. Yes, sir..          I notice that you said that this treatment was continued from five to
fift  n minutes. Did you time it -A. No, sir; I did not.
(m. It might have been only five minutes instead of fifteen;' that would
makea good deal of difference.
Seator CULBERSON. That is what he has already said.
A. I could not state the time. It seemed longer than five minutes.
ty Senator BEVERIDGf:. You have said he did not die?-A. Yes..Did he suffer any ill effects from that treatment?-A. His eyes were
bl odshot; otherwise he seemed to be
Did you see him the next day?-A. Yes, sir.
Q   Did he seem all right then?-A. Yes; he was taken prisoner and was
confi ed after that.
He was confined after that?-A. Yes; after he came back from the
mo utains he was locked up for the night and then taken to Iloilo the next
day as a civil prisoner.
Q How did it happen that in your letter to your friend you mentioned
only he harsh treatment of Americans upon this native and did not mention
any  'f the outrages committed by the natives upon the Americans?-A. I
was nmt comparing the case at all, I was simply stating this fact. I wrote the
letter i'p connection with the information that he divulged that morning. I
simply *.tated the facts as an event of the day and did not say whether it was
inhumarn or not.
Q. Bl'it it did not occur to y6u to make any statement about the outrages
that were; committed on Americans by natives?-A. Those I believe I stated
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The CHAIRMAN. And those letters were not published?
The WITNESS. No, sir.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. And those letters were not published?-A. No, sir.
Q. This was in Igoo?-A. In I900, yes; November, I900.
Q. That was the time of active warfare, at the time of the suppressing of
the insurrection?-A. Yes, sir.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. I understand you to say that American soldiers were present when
this water cure was administered?-A. Yes, sir.
Q>-How many? —A. About eighty.
Q. Did any of them take part in it?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. How many of them?-A. I could not tell you the exact number of
different ones. There were.usually five or six employed. Whether they
were the same five or six employed the time the treatment was given the second time, I could not state.
The CHAIRMAN. Were they the men of the Eighteenth?
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.
By Senator BURROWS:.
Q. By whose orders-   A. Captain Glenn.
Q. Who is Captain Glein?-A. Judge-advocate of the Department of
Visayas. He was captain cf the Twenty-fifth Infantry.
Q. Were those 80 men ir.toxicated, or were any of them intoxicated?-A.
No. sir.
Q. All sober and in their right minds?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. When they filled this man up with water they were sober?-A. -yes,
sir.
Q. What had been his crime?-A. Information had been obtained f a'm
a native source as to his being an insurgent officer. After the treatmenwthe
admitted that he held the rank of captain in the insurgent army-an active
captain. His police force, numbering 25, were sworn insurgent soldier:s. He
was the presidente of the town and had been for a year, and he always showed
himself to be friendly on the outside to the officers, and the men the same
way.
Senator BEVERIDGE. But in reality — -
The WITNESS. He was an insurgent officer and his men were ins n'lent
soldiers. He acknowledged that, and his police acknowledged th~sa Lme
thing. When they took the oath as police they took the oath of the insu.gent
soldier.
The CHAIRMAN. Were they supposed to be friendly to the United States?
The WITNESS. They were; yes, sir.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. That was a pretense?-A. Yes, sir.                     e<
Q. And this was during the time of active warfare?-A. Yes, sir; d/uring
the entire time he held the place as the presidente in that town.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. His offense was treachery to the American cause?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. And for that the water cure was given?-A. No; the water cure was
given to find out this information. The information had been obtained from
another source.
Q. This water cure was given to find out'whether he would admit t?A. Yes, sir; to find out whether it was true.
Senator BEVERIDGE.. No; you said it was given to find out w lether
warnings had been given to the insurgents of your arrival.
The WITNESS. No; that was the second treatment.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. I am talking about the first treatment.-A. That was given to co roborate the information that had been obtained.
Q. And so he was put to this torture for the purpose of finding that (t?A. Yes, sir.
Senator CULBERSON. Do I understand you to say that he was put to this
torture to compel him to give evidence against himself?
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.
By Senator BURRows:
Q. You never had the water cure administered to you?-A. No, sir.
Q. Should you judge from the actions of the person to whom it was administered that it wasa pleasant operation?-A. No, sir.




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Q. Painful?-A. Yes, sir.
Q What makes you think so?-A. From the -way he would struggle and
try to get!, and of course he could not holler or make any loud noise.
Q. V.". - not?-A. On account of the water being in his mouth. He could
gurgle, and he would struggle and try to get up. Being held by main
strength he was practically helpless.
By Senator CULBERSON:
Q. When the foot was applied to his stomach with what force did the
water come out of his mouth?-A. I did not see that.
Q. Do you know whether the water came out of his nose?-A. I could not
state as to that, any more than what the men who were there said that it
would squirt up 2 or 3 feet in the air.
Senator CULBERSON. Like an artesian well?
Senator BEVERIDGE. What man stated that?
The WITNEss.. Sergeant Davis stated that.
The CHAIRMAN. Of the Eighteenth?
The WITNESS. Of the Twenty-sixth Infantry.
By. Senator BURROWS:
Q. Then the infliction of this water cure on this person was not for the
various outrages that had been committed in the various parts of the islands?
-A. No, sir; it had no connection with them.
Q. Simply to make him disclose-  -A. Simply to make him corroborate what they had heard.
Q. Whether he was loyal to the American cause or a traitor?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. Who did you say this officer was that ordered the salt?-A. Doctor
Lyons, the contract surgeon.
Q._Of what regiment?-A. He was a contract surgeon and did not belong
to any regular command.
Q. Where does he live?-A. He did not have any regular command.
Q. Is he an American?-A. Yes, sir. He was there in connection with
the Department of Visayas, either connected with the hospital or he was connected with the Eighteenth Infantry, detailed for that purpose.
Q. At the second performance water was injected into the mouth and into
the nose?-A. Yes, sir.
Senator BEVERIDGE. Did you see that?
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. Who suggested putting tubes in the nose?-A. Dr. Lyons.
Q. Did anybody kill him?-A. Kill who, the Doctor?
Q. Yes.-A. No, sir.
By Senator BEVERIDGE.
Q. Where do you live?-A. Northampton, Mass.
Q. What is your business?-A. I am a clerk.
Q. In what establishment?-A. The establishment of W. H. Riley & Co.,
plumbers and steamfitters.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. You have lived in Northampton all your life?-A. Yes, sir; I was
born there.
Q. And you are known by all the people there?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. How large a town is Northampton?-A. About I6,ooo. I say I have
lived there all my life; I have, with the exception of three years I lived in
Hartford.
Q. Is this paper which published this. letter a Republican paper?-A. I
cannot state. I think it is inclined to be Republican. It is only a local paper
and does not publish much news except local news.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. How long were you in the Philippine Islands?-A. About eighteen
months.
Q. During this time this was the only instance of the water cure that you
witnessed?-A. The only one I witnessed.
Q. You were engaged in active service all of that time.-A. Yes, sir.
Q. In the suppression of the insurrection during that time.-A. Yes, sir.
Senator BURROWS. Do you know of other instances?
The WITNESS. Nothing; only hearsay from other men.
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The WITNESS. Different commands stated what they did; nothing that I
could prove: I could not give their names.
Senator BEVERIDGE. He could not give their names, and I objected to the
statement being made on that account.
Senator RAWLINS. Since we have elicited some hearsay testimony, if the
testimony of the witness is sought to be obtained in that regard, I think this
witness is prepared to testify if the committee holds it competent, by hearsay,
that this practice was so usual that there was a regular detail known as the
"water detail" in each regiment. assigned for this purpose, and that it was
done with the knowledge of those in command of the troops.
Senat   sEVERIDGE. I object to any statement being elicited from the
witnce   nearsay where he cannot give the name of the man from whom he
obtained the information. Where he can give the name, as he did in response
to a question of mine, it is proper, although it would not be in courtSenafor RAWLINS. I am not going to press the matter.
Senator BEVERIDGE. But where the witness states general hearsay without names, then I object.
Senator RAWNLINS. That is all, Mr. Riley.
(-Witness excused.)
TESTIMONY OF WILLIAM LEWIS SMITH.
(Sworn by the chairman.)
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. Were you at Igbaras, Iloilo Province, island of Panay, on ox about the
27th of November, Ioo?-A. Yes, sir.
~Q. What regiment were you connected with?-A. Twenty-sixth Volunteer Infantry.
Q. How long had you been in the service at that time '-A. Since July 17,
I89o.
Q. Where is your hme?-A. Athol, Mass.
Q. You may state whether or not you witnessed what is known as the
water cure.-A. I did, sir.
Q. And where did you see it?-A. At the town of Igbaras.
Q. On what dav? —A. November 27, g9oo.
Q. Upon whom was it inflicted?-A. Upon the presidente of the town
and two native police.
Q. Did you observe it inflicted more than once?-A. I saw part of it at
one time and the whole of it the second time.
Q. Describe what you saw on the first occasion.-A. We arrived at the
town about daylight in the morning. It was just breaking day. There was
an outpost put all over the town, so that no people could leave town by the
gates, and we proceeded to quarters. A detachment of our company was
stationed there. The company that we joined was commanded by Lieutenant Conger, of the Eighteenth Infantry, known as Gordon's Scouts. We
proceeded to quarters, and I was one of a detail that was sent out to ask the
presidente to come over to the quarters. On the way we met him and proceeded tt the house of the padre, the priest of the town, to get him. He was
not at home.
The presidente went along over to the quarters. When I got back to the
quarters, the boys were sitting around, and I went upstairs, and the first that
I saw of the presidente was that he was stripped. He had nothing on but
his pants. His shirt and coat were off, and his hands were tied behind him,
and Lieutenant Conger stood over him, and also a contract doctor by the
name of Dr. Lyons, and as we stopped there they proceeded to give him what
is known as the water cure. It was given from a large tank. I should say
the tank held-well-a hundred gallons, anyway. I do not know whether
it was full at the time, but the tank would hold about that-two barrels of
water I should think, surely. He was thrown on his back, and these!four or
five men, known as the water detail of these Gordon Scouts, held him down.
Water was administered by the opening of the faucet. We could not get
close enough to see exactly how it was done, because if we would congregate
there at all the officers would tell us to pass on. We had to go upstairs to get
into our squad room, and if we would congregate there they would tell us to
pass on. We would go back and forth and see it at times.




The second time I saw it after he had confessed what they wanted-I do
not know whether he confessed on not, I only saw a part-of that-but downstairs they asked him through an interpreter, they all stood over him at the
time, and they asked him if he sent any word out to the insurgents when the
troops arrived in town. One of the native police in the meantime disclosed
that he had,,that he had sent him personally, so in order to get that from him
Lieutenant Conger called for the water detail. This time it was given by
means of a syringe. Two men went out to their saddlebags and obtained
two syringes, large bulbs, a common syringe, about 2 feet of common hose
pipe, I should think, on either end. One was inserted in his mouth and the
other up his nose. We could all stand by there and see that. When this
doctor said to get a pail of water, and thev started into the building with him,
Captain Glenn was there, and he said, " No, this is good enough right here on
the outside." So we all had a chance to witness it that time; and as the
water did not seem to have the desired effectthe doctor stood over him and
said to get a cup of salt. One of the men went upstairs and procured a cup of
salt and it was thrown into the water, and the interpreter stood there all the
time, and after he had had it some time he did disclose what they wanted,
and he said he was willing to guide us out there. We went out and stayed the
greater part of the day, but did not see anything of the insurgents. That is
what I saw of the water cure.
Q. What became of that town?-A. It was burned about 8 o'clock, under
orders of Captain Glenn. Lieutenant Conger started out with his menthat is, the Eighteenth Infantry-to burn part of the town. Captain McDonald, of the Twenty-sixth, took his men and went to the lower end of the
town. We started burning after they started burning at the other end, in
order to give the natives time to get out before their buildings were burned.
Senator DUBOIS. Did you personally do any of the burning?
The WITNESS. Yes; I did set fire to some buildings.
By Senator RAwNLINS:
Q. How were those occupied?-A. By native men, women, and children
alike. Nearly all of the buildings were bamboo and nipa, and all you have to
do is to light this nipa roof and it is gone in a short time.
Q. What became of the furniture and household effects-'-A. They do not
have a great deal of furniture or household effects. They sleep on the floor.
Only the better class there have beds. They sleep on the floor as a rule. Of
course, what few tables and benches they had were destroyed. They only
had time to save the clothes that they wore at the time.
Q. Was any discrimination made as to whose buildings should be burned,
and whose not?-A. The church was to be saved and the quarters occupied
by our men, and fivedlarge buildings that were not made of this bamboo construction, but were made of wood-good buildings. They were to be saved
for the occupancy of the women and children after the rest of the town was
burned.
Q. You have already stated, I think, that this water cure was inflicted by
Lieutenant Conger bf the regulars, by scouts under his command?-A. Yes,
sir. The way he had of ordering it done was, " Water detail;" that is all I
heard him say. The men went on then and did the rest of it. The men
stood over, as did Captain Glenn and Dr. Lyons, and witnessed it both times.,Q. After the town was burned and after you returned the presidente what
became of him?-A. He was taken to Iloilo for trial; I don't know what his
sentence was.
Q.' How old a man was he?-A. He was a man forty-five or fifty years old,
I should think; forty-five years old anyway.
By Senator DIETRICH:
Q. You say that the presidente, after having received the water cure the
second time, acted as guide to show you where the insurgents were?-A. In
the mountains, yes.
Q. How did he go, afoot or horseback?-A. Horseback.
Q. He seemed to be.in good condition, did he?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. And the water cure did not seem to injure him very much?-A. No; it
does not seem to injure anyone very much after forcing the water out of him.
They forced it out by placing a foot on the stomach.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. The chief effect is fright, is it not?-A. Yes, sir.
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Senator CULBERSON. The chief effect oAwhat?
Senator BEVERIDGE. The chief effect of the water cure.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. Do you know of many outrages by the natives upon the American
troops?
Senator RAWLINS. I object to the question.
The WITNESS. No, sir; I do not know.
The CHAIRMAN. Did you ever see any other cases of water cure?
The WITNESS. No, sir.
By Senator BEVERIDGEr
Q. How long did you serve there?-A. We arrived there the 3oth of October, 1899, and left there the 4th of March, 1901.
Q. So you were there practically two years?-A. About eighteen months
on the islands.
Q. You were there in Iloilo part of the time?-A. We were there about a
month; not over that.
Q. You were in Manila part of the time?-A. No, sir; I was never in
Manila at all.
Q. Did you go about the hospitals in Iloilo?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. Did you observe Filipiro prisoners, wounded or sick, attended to in
our hospitals by our surgeons and nurses?-A. I did not. I was not there
at the time when any Filipino prisoners were in there. I was not there any
"great length of time anyway.
Q. Did you observe any kind treatment upon the part of the officers and
soldiers durng the service of your enlistment or your service there?-A. To
the natives?
Q. Toward native prisoners?-A. I do not think they treated the native
prisoners in our quarters in regard to sleeping quarters very well. We had
about forty of them at the timeQ. Did you know General Hughes?
Senator RAWLINS. Let us have an answer.
A. (Continued.) At the time Igbaras was burned we took about forty of
them there, and they were made to sleep on the ground in the basement of the
building.                                          a
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. Really, on the ground?-A. Yes, sir. We had two places to keep
them. We had to build one place; one place was where we locked our own
prisoners, in case we had any, and we turned that over; and after that was
full they lay on the ground; except for such mats as were brought them by
their own people. Otherwise they had nothing to lie on.
Q. And their own people were permitted to bring in mats and other comforts?-A. Yes; food.
By Senator MCCOMAS:
Q. How did you treat them?-A. When I came in contact with themwell, if I took them out and worked them I was pretty carefulto keep them at
work and see that they did not get away.
Q. Did you treat them humanely and kindly?-A. I did not treat them
unkindly. I kept them at work all the time.
Q. So far as you were concerned, you endeavored to treat the prisoners
humanely?-A. Yes, sir. They treated me well and I treated,them the same.
Q. How did those about you treat them?-A. They treated them well.
Q. That is the extent of your own observation, is it not?-A. That is the
extent of my observations, so far as I saw.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. You are a soldier, and slept on the ground yourself many times?-A.
Yes, sir.
Q. Even without a mat?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. And even when you were not a soldier you have slept on the ground?
-A. Yes, sir; when I have been camping I have.
By the CHAIRMAN:
Q. This was the only case you witnessed?-A. The only case I witnessed;
the only case I saw with my own eyes.
Q. Were there any other applications of the water cure by men of your
regiment that you know of?-A. No, sir.
Q. This is the statement of your colonel:
"Major Cook, Captain McDonald, and Sergeant Riley state that no offi



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cers or soldiers of this regiment took part in the so-called water-cure proceedings or other threats against the natives on the occasion stated."
A. At Igbaras they did not, otherwise than burn the town. They had
nothing to do with the water cure.
Q. That related to water cure, of course?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. Your own regiment was not guilty at all?-A. Not that I know of;
our company, at least, was not.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. I did not understand clearly by whose orders this village was burned.
-A. Captain Glenn; he was at that time judge-advocate of the island
under General Hughes.
Q. What was the population of the town?-A. I should say 25,000; a
good many people, often I 2 or 14, live in one of these little shacks. I may
estimate it high, but I have heard it estimated as a population of 25,000.
-By the CHAIRMAN:
Q. Is it as muchI of a town as Athol?-A. I should think so.
Q. That is a good ways from 25,o00.-A. But they live differently there.
They live I 2 or 14 people in the house.
Senator BURROWS. I want to ask yotuA. (Continued.) I do not think there are quite as many as that in the
town itself. It was estimated as 25,000, but that includes all of the barrios,
and only part of the barrios were burned. We burned everything we passed
going to the mountains. The town is estimated on the map to be 2,000ooo.
The CHAIRMAN. It is a sort of a township like they have in Massachusetts?
The WITNESS. Yes.
Senator BEVERIDGE. You mean the township contains in all about 25,ooo000?
The WITNESS. Yes; that is what I mean.
The CHAIRMAN. It is like our townships in Massachusetts, comprising a
large area?
The WrrNEss. Yes, sir.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. Then I will ask you the population of the village, not of the township..
-A. At least 0o,ooo.
Q. You say children are very numerous there?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. What time of the evening was this village fired?-A. Between the
hours of 8 and 8.30.
Q. Notice was given, of course, before that time to the inhabitants of the
town?-A. Notice was given in this way: When Lieutenant Conger and his
men started to the upper end of the town, they warned the people in that end
that they were going to burn the whole town. Notice was not given before
that.
Q. They commenced at one end-     A. They commenced at one end,
and that gave the people a chance to get out.
Q. How did they notify them?-A. By four or five interpreters.
Q. Did they go along crying out?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. Is that the way they did, or did they go into the houses and warn the
people?-A. They cried out.
Q. That would give an opportunity for the wc nen and children to get
out?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. The fire burned very rapidly, did it not?-A. Yes, sir; by 12 o'clock
the town was entirely destroyed.
Q. It was fired between 8 and'9 o'clock, and by I2 o'clock it was entirely
wiped out?-A. Yes, sir; it was smouldering, but not a building was left that
could be occupied-except those I mentioned were saved.
Q. Ample notice was given so no lives were destroyed?-A. No lives were
destroyed that I know' of.
By Senator DIETRICH:
Q. You say this presidente that the water cure was perpetrated upon had
been accused of treachery?-A. Yes, sir. He confessed to holding a captain's
commission in the Filipino army at that time.
Q. There had been a great many assaults upon American soldi _rs; Amdrican soldiers had been murdered in a great many ways?-A. Not in our district. We never had a soldier injured in our district (until after that time);
but in other districts they did.
Q. Did you condemn at the time this water cure?-A. Yes, sir.




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Q. Did other soldiers condemn it?-A. Yes, sir; they thought it was very
cruel treatment.
The CHAIRMAN. Active operations were going on at that time, were they;
fighting going on at that time?
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.
Senator BEVERIDGE. It was a state of war?
The WITNESS. Yes; a state of war.
By the CHAIRMAN:                              '
Q. Did you remain there until the conclusion of your service?-A. No; I
was mustered out in San Francisco.
Q. I mean after this period?-A. Yes; I remained there from November
27th until March 4th.
Q. Of the following year'-A. The following year; yes, sir.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. How long had you been there prior to November 27th?-A. Since
October 30, 1899.
Q. And you had been at Igbaras or in that vicinity.about a year?-A.
Yes, sir.
Q. And during that time you say there had been none of the American
soldiers killed?-A. No one. I never saw a man killed or injured in our company until after the burning of Igbaras. We occupied 5 towns, and we had
anywhere from ten to eighteen men in each town.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. Where do you live?-A. Athol, Mass.
Q. What is your business?-A. I am a machinist. I work for the L. S.
Steryitt Machine Company.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. Did you see the water cure administered to the police?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. When?-A. In the evening, under the tank, as they took the presidente the first time.
Senator BUCRROWS. What is that?
The \WITNESS. In the evening they administered it to two of the police.
They gave them the water cure under this large tank as they did to the presidente the first time, without the means of the syringe.
Senator RAWLINS. Who did that?
The WITNESS. The water detail, Lieutenant Conger and this Dr. Lyons.
Captain Glenn was not there in the evening at that time. This was before the
burning of the town. It was about 7 o'clock. We got to Igbaras about 5
o'clock, and this was about 7 o'clock.
By Senator CULBERSON:
— Q. When they administered the water cure by means of the syringe how
many applications of the syringe were necessary in order to fill the men up
with water?-A. kt usually took about three, or four, or five minutes. They
never stopped at all-they do not take it out at all-they keep it up, but they
watch the man, and I noticed the doctor torched his heart once in a while.
I noticed that.
Q. The doctor woutld watch the process?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. To see what effect it was going to have upon the man's heart?-A.
Yes, sir.
Q. And you say they administered the water also through the nose?A. Yes; one syringe up the nose and the other in the mouth.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. Were the Filipino prisoners that you describe as sleeping where our
soldiers who were also under surveillance slept, as on some mats on the
ground, fed abundantly by our authorities?-A. They were fed, from our
rations-yes.
Q. The same food that the American soldiers were fed?-A. Yes.
Q. They were not beaten or struck or abused, were they?-A. No, sir;
I did not see them beaten or struck.
Q. And the men under your charge you merely kept at work?-A. Yes,
sir.
Q. As you would keep any other men at work whom you supervised?A. Yes, sir; and I looked out that they did not escape.
Q. If the priso}rs got sick they were attended by the American physicians'-A. Yes, sir; they were.




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Q. And they received the same medicine that our soldiers received?-A.
They did at that time, quite a number of them.
By Senator CULBERSON:
Q. Do you lay any stress on "that time," or was the policy changed with
reference to the treatment of prisoners afterwards?-A. I do not understand
your question.
Q. You stated that at that time they were treated like the American
soldiers who might be ill. Was that policy changed afterward?-I do not
know whether you intend to lay any stress upon "that time. "-A. That was
the only time we had prisoners there.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. So far as you observed, they had the same treatment that our soldiers
had?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. The same food and medical attendance '-A. Yes, sir; they were
taken to the hospitals. I have taken them there myself, and they would be
given medicine.
Q. So that the Filipino prisoners had the same food and the same medicine and the same attendance, so far as you observed, that our soldiers had?A. They did not have the same rations; they were provided by the Government, but were not the same rations that we had.
Q. I understood you to say that they had the same rations; that they were
fed out of the same rations.-A. That was a mistake of mine, then. It was
issued by the Government, drawn from our commissary, but not the same
class of rations that we had.
Q. It was plentiful and good food?-A. Yes.
Q. And applicable to them?-A. Yes.
Q. Food that they were used to?-A. Yes; it consisted more of rice, and
the like of that, and they preferred it to our meats.
Q. In other words, they got the food that they preferred?-A. Yes, sir.
Q. And that is the only respect in which there was any difference, in respect of food — A. Yes, sir.
Q. (Continuing.) Between the treatment given to them and the treatment of-our own soldiers?-A. Yes, sir.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q..I call attention to the statement here: "Privates Dugan, Hays, and
Tracy, of Company F, were murdered by the town authorities at Calinog."
Do you know about that?-A. Only by hearsay; I did not see it.
Q. Where was that?-A. About fifty mniles from where I was stationed.
Q. That was not at this place?-A. No.
Q. (Reading.) "Private Nolan, at Dingle, was tied up by the natives
while in a stupor; the insurgents were sent for and cut his throat with a
sangut." How far away was that?-A. I don't know where that town is;
I know where Calinog is.
Q. Do you know anything about that of your own knowledge?-A. No,
sir; I do not.
Q. (Reading.)  "Private O'Hearn, captured by apparently friendly
people near Leon, was tied to a tree, and burned for four hours with a slow
fire, and finally slashed up." Do you know about that?-A. I heard about
that. Their company was stationed four miles from where we were stationed.
I heard their story.
Q. How far was that?-A. Sixteen miles from Igbaras.
Senator BEVERIDGE. You say it was about four miles from where you
were located?
The WITNESS. I said their company was stationed four miles from where
our company was. Where this took place was about sixteen miles from
Igbaras.
The CHAIRMAN. All these towns were in the same district.
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.
By Senator RAWLINS:
Q. Do you know who did this?-A. No, sir; I do not know whether it was
the insurgents or ladrones or bandits.
Q. I will ask you to state generally what distinction you makebetween
ladrones and insurgents.-A. The ladrones are robbers and they'plunder
their own people as well as the American troops; they rob their own people
even more than they do the Americans.
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rather than by what is known as the insurrectos?-A. I could not say as to- <d.i
that.
Q. Are the ladrones-generally with the insurgents?-A. They are connected-with them; yes.
By Senator BEVERIDGE:
Q. And is it not true that the people who are disposed to be peaceable
among the natives desire protection from the ladrones.-A.  eaceable
among the American troops?
Q, No, not at all; those who are peaceable among the natives. Do they
f  desire protection against the ladrones?-A. These peaceful Filipinos; yes.
That is what I understand you to say, those that were friendly to the Americans.
QYes.-A. They want protection against the ladrones; yes.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. What was this water cure administered to these two policemen for?A. They swore that the whole police force of the town of Igbaras had sworn
allegiance to the presidente any time they were called to take arms against
the American troops in the town.
Q. They swore to that-when?-A. That evening.
Q. Before the water cure was administered?-A. No, sir; afterward.
Q. Why was the cure administered?-A. Why?
Q. Yes.-A. I do not know unless it was for the same reason that Captain
Glenn knew that they had information and would not disclose it, as was the
case with the presidente.
Q. Is it your understanding that this water cure was administered as an
infliction upon these people because outrages had been perpetrated on our
3     troops in other localities?-A. I do not understand it so.
Senator RAWLINS. It was administered for the purpose of compelling
information.
The WITNESS. -It was for the purpose of compelling information; yes.
By Senator BURROWS:
Q. This water cure is not harmful?-A. I do not know about the effects
of it.. A physician is not called in to resuscitate the patient?-A. No, sir..Or, in all probability, the victim?
enator RAWLINS. You keep a doctor with you all the time?
The WITNESS. Yes, sir.
Senator BEVERIDGE. The purpose of that doctor being present is to see
that no injury is inflicted, is it not?
The WITNESS. I do not know; I suppose so.
Q. You naturally suppose so from the fact that our physicians attend the
Filipinos who are ill?-A. Yes, sir.
By Senator DIETRICH:
Q. You have just stated that this presidente started right out on a hiking
expedition.-A. He rode his horse.
Q. And seemed to be in perfect health and in good condition?-A. He
stood the effects of the ride as well as any of us. I do not know that it injured him, and I don't know that he suffered any illeffects from it afterward.
I don't know any thing about that.
(Witness excused.)
(Thereupon, at 2 o'clock M., the committee took a recess until to-morrow,
April I5, 1902, at 10.30 o'clock A. M.)