Glass f S S ft Book l^ .i' hA ^a^ SPEECH HON. LEA¥IS CASS, OF MICHIGAN, ON THE OREGON QUESTION. DELIYERED IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES, MONDAY, MARCH 30, 1846. The Joint Resolution for giving the notice to tei-- minato the convention between the United States and Great Britain, relative to the Oregon terri- tory, being under considerEition— - Mr. CASS addressed the Senate as follows: Mr. President: I do not rise at this late period to enter into any formal consideration of the prin- cipal topic involved in the proposition now pending before the Senate. I cannot flatter myself, that any such effort of mine would be successful, or would deserve to be so. I have listened attentively to the progress of this discussion, and while I acknowl- edge my gratification at much I have heard, still sentiments have been advanced, and views pre- sented, in which I do not concur, and from which, even at the hazard of trespassing upon the indul- gence of the Senate, I must express my dissent, and briefly the reasons of it. But, sir, I have not the I'emotest intention of touching the question of the title of Oregon. The tribute I bring to that subject is the tribute of conviction, not of discus- sion; a concurrence in the views of others, not the presentation of my own. The whole matter has been placed in bold relief before the country and the world by men far more competent, than I am to do it justice, and justice they have done it. The distinguished Senator from South Carolina, who filled, a short time since, theofiice of Secreta- ry of State, has left the impress of his talents and intelligence upon his correspondence with the Brit- ish Minister, and he left to an able successor to finish well a task, which was well begun. And upon this floor, the Senator from New York in- structed us, while he gratified us, by a masterly vindication of the American title; and he was fol- '•owed by his colleague, and by the Senator from Illinois, and by others, too, who have done honor to themselves, while doing good service to their cotmtry. Before, however, I proceed further in my re- marks, there is one subject, to which I will make a passing allusion. As to correcting the misrep- resentatioivs of the day, whether these are volunta- ry or involuntary, he that seeks to do it, only pre- pares for himself an abundant harvest of disap- pointment, and, I may add, of vexation. I seek no such impracticable object. In times like the present, when interests are threatened, passions; excited, parties animated, and when momentous questions present themselves for solution, and the public mind is alive to the slightest sensation, we must expect, that those, upon whose action depends the welfare, if not the destiny, of the country, will be arraigned, and assailed, and condemned. I presume we are all prepared for this. We have all lived long enough to know, that this is the tax, which our position pays to its elevation. We have frequently been reminded, during the progress of this debate, of the responsibihty, which men of ex- treme opinions, as some of us have been called, must encounter, and have been summoned to meet it — to meet the consequences of the measures we invoke. During the course of a public life, now verging towards forty years, I have been placed in many a condition of responsibility; and often, too, where I had few to aid me, and none to consult. I have found myself able to march up to my duty, and no responsibility, in cities or in forests, has been cast upon me, which I have not readily met. As it is with me, so it is, I doubt not, with my political friends, who regard this whole matter as I do, and who are ready to follow it to its final issue, whatever or wherever that may be. I submit to honorable Senators on the other side of the Cham- ber, whether these adjurations are in good taste; whether it is not fair to presume, that we have look- ed around us, examined what in our judgment we ought to do, and then determined to do it, come what may? This great controversy with England cannot be adjusted without a deep and solemn re- sponsibility being cast upon all of us. If there is a responsibility in going forward, there is a respon- sibility in standing still. Peace has it dangers as well as war. They are not indeed of the same kind, but they may be more lasting, more dishon- orable, and more destructive of the best interests of the country; because destructive of those hopes and sentiments, which elevate the moral above the ma- terial world. Let us, then, leave to egch member of this body the course that duty points out to him, together with the responsibility he must meet, whether arraigned at the tribunal of his conscience, his constituents, or his country. I observe, that as well myself, as other Senators, upon this side of the Senate have been accused of dealing in rani and abuse — that I believe is the term — In cscfcanse •^t"^. in the remarks we have submitted, from time to time, upon the subject, as it came up incidentally or directly for consideration. Tliis rant and abuse, of course, had reference to remarks upon the con- duct and pretensions of England. I should not have adverted to this topic, had it not been that the honorable Senator from North Carolina, [Mr. Haywood,] not now in his place, has given color to the charge, by the expression of his "mortification in being obliged to concede ' to the debates in the British Parliament a'-decided ' superiority over ourselves in their dignity and * moderation." He expressed the hope that " we might get the ' news by the next packet of an outrageous debate « in the British Parliament." "At least sufficient ' to put them even with us on that score." Now, Mr. President, it is not necessary to wait for the next packet for specimens of the courtesies of British parliamentary eloquence, I hold one in my hands, which has been here some time, and which, from the circumstances, and from the station of the speaker, I at least may be permitted to refer to, when I find myself, among others, charged with participating in an outrageous debate, and when patriotism would seem to de- mand an unbecoming exhibition in the British Parliament, in order to restore, not our dignity, but our self-complacency. Now, sir, 1 am a fii-m behever in the courtesies of life, public and private; and I desire never to depart from them. In all I have said, I have not uttered a word, which ought to give oflTence, even to* poHtical fastidiousness. I have spoken, to be sure, plainly, as became a man dealing in great truths, involving the character and interests of his country, but becomingly. I have not, indeed, called ambition moderation; nor cupidity, philan- thropy; nor arrogance, humility. Let him do so, who believes them such. But I have heard the desire of the West, that the sacred rights of their country should be enforced and defended, called icestern avidity, in the Senate of the United States ! I have not even imitated Lord John Russell, and talked of blustering. Still less have I imitated a greater than Lord John Russell in 4alents, and one higher in station, though far lower in those qualities, that conciliate respect and esteem, and preserve them. He who seeks to know the appetite of the Brit- ish public for abuse, and how greedilj^it is catered for, has but to consult the dally columns of the British journals; but let him, who has persuaded himself that all is decorum in the British Parlia- ment, and that these legislative halls are but bear- gardens compared with it, turn to the speeches sometimes delivered there. Let him turn to a speech delivered by the second man in the realm, by the late Lord Chancellor of England, theThcr- sites indeed of his day and country, but with high intellectual powers, and a vast stock of informa- tion, and who no doubt understands the taste of his countrjwTien, and knows how to gratify it. I have no pleasure in these exhibitions, which lessen the dignity of human nature; but we must look to the dark as well as to the bright side of life, if we desire to bring our opinions to the stand- ard of experience. In a debate in the British House of Lords, on the 7th of April, 1843, I had the honor to be the subject of the vituperation of Lord Brougham ; and an honor I s'hall esteem it, under the circumstances, as long as the honors of this world have any interest for me. I shall make no other allusion to the matter but what is necessary to the object I have in view, to exhibit the style of debate there, so much lauded here, and held up to our countrymen as the beau ideal of all that is courteous and dignified in political life. "There was one man," said the ex-chancellor, " who was the very impersonation of mob-hostil- ' ity to England. He wished to name him, that the ' name might be clear as the guilt was undivided. ' He meant General Cass, whose breach of duty ' to his own Government was so discreditable, and ' even more flagrant than his breach of duty to hu- ' manityasaman, and as the free descendent of free ' English parents, and whose conduct in all those ' particulars it was impossible to pass over or pal- ' liate. This person , who had been sent to maintain ' peace, and to reside at Paris for that purpose, after ' pacific relations had been established between ' France and America, did his best to break it, ' whether by the circulation of statements upon the ' question of international law, of which he had no ' more conception than of the languages that were ' spoken in the moon, [loud laughter,"] (this sar- casm provoked their grave lordships to merri- ment,) " or by any other arguments of reason, for ' which he had no more capacity, than he had for ' understanding legal points and differences. " "For ' that purpose he was not above pandering to the ' worst mob feeling of the United States" — " a law- ' less set of rabble politicians of inferior caste and ! 'station'" — "a grovelling, groundling set of politic ' cians'^ — " a set of mere rabble, as contradistinguish- ' ed from persons of property, or respectability, and oft ' info7-mafion" — "groundlings in station," 8fc. And I am thus characterized by this modest and : moderate English lord, because I did what little waa i in my power to defeat one of the most flagitious . attempts of modern times to establish a dominion over the seas, and which, under the pretext of abolishing the slave trade, and by virtue of a quin- tuple treaty, would have placed the flag, and ships, , and seamen of our country, at the disposal of Eng- land . Lord Brougham did not always talk thus — not t when one of his friends applied to me in Paris to i remove certain unfavorable impressions made in ai high quarter by one of those imprudent and impul- sive remarks, which seem to belong to his moral i habits. The effort was successful. And now. my account of good for evil with Lord Brougham i is balanced. It is an irksome task to cull expressions likee these, and repeat them here. I hold them up not as a warning — that is not needed — but to repel tlip intimation, that we ought to study the courtes^s of our position in the British Parliament- When I came here, sir, I felt it due to myself to arraign no one's motives, but to yield the ^ame | credit for integrity of action to others, wAich I claimed for myself. The respect I owed to those who sent me here, and to those to wliom I waa sent, equally dictated this course. If some of us, as has been intimated, are small men) who have attained high places, if we have no other claim to this false distinction, I hope we shall at least es- tablish that claim, which belongs to decorum of language and conduct, to life and conversation. s We all occupy positions hefe high enotigh, and \iseful enough, if usefully filled, to satisfy the Pleasure of any man's ambition. It ought to be -our pride and our effort to identify ourselves with this representative body of the sovereignties of the States, With this great depository of so much of the power of the American people in the three ■great departments of their Government, executive, legislative, and judicial — to establish an esprit du •corps, which, white it shall leave us free to fulfil «ur duties, whether to our country or to our party, «hal] yet unite us in a determination to discard «verything, which can diminish the influence, or lessen the dignity, of the Senate of the United States, While I have the honor of a seat here, I will do -nothing to counteract these views. I will bandy words of reproach with no one. And the same measure of courtesy I am prepared to mete to others, I trust v/ill be meted by others to me. At any mte, if they are not, I will have no conten- tion in this chamber, I have regretted many expressions which have been heard during the progress of this discussion. Faction-. demaffogues-,tdtra patriots, ambitious leaders, inflammatory appeals, invective, little men seeking to he great cues, and other terms and epithets, not pleas- ant to hear, and still less pleasant to repeat. Now, sir, nothing is easier than a bitter retort; and he who impugns the motives of others, cannot com- plain, if he is accused of measuring them by his own standard, and seeking, in liis own breast, their rule of action. If one portion of the Senate is ac- cused of being idtra on the side of their country's pretensions, how easy to retort the charge by accu- sing the accusers of being ultra on the other ? But what is gained by this war of words ? Nothing. On the contrary, we lower our dignity as Senators, and our charactei-s as men. For myself, I repudi- ate it all, I will have no part nor lot in it. I ques- tion the motives of no honorable Senator. I be- lieve we have all one common object — the honor and interest of our country. We differ as to the best means of action, and that difference is one of the tributes due to human fallibility. But there is no exclusive patriotism, on one side or other of this body; and I hope there will be no exclusive claim to iu Some days since, in an incidental discussion, which sprung up, I remarked that I could not per- ■ceive why the parallel of 49^ was assumed as the boundary of our claim. Why any man planted his foot on that suppositious line upon the face of the globe, and erecting a barrier there, said all to the north belongs to England, and all to the south to the United States. My remark was merely the ex- pression of my views, without touching the reasons on vi^hich they were founded. The honorable Sen- ators from Maine, and Maryland, and Georg-ia, have since called in question the accuracy of this opinion, and have entered somewhat at length into the considerations, which prove that line the true line of demarcation between the two countries. And tlw Senator from North Carolina [Mr. Hay- wood] lays much stress upon this matter, making it in fact the foundation of a large portion of his argument. That parallel is, in his view, the wall of separation between our questionable and our un- questionable clahns. To the south he would not yield; to the north he would, though he thinks that even there our title is the best. There is an erroneous impression upon this subject somewhere, either with the ultra, or (if I may coin a v/ord) the un-ultrct advocates of Oi-egon; and as this line seems to be a boundary, beyond which we may look, indeed, and wish, but must not go, it is worth while to examine summarily what are its real pre- tensions to the character thus assumed for it, of being the line of contact and of separation between two great nations. There is no need of discussing the right of civ- ilized nations to appropriate to themselves coun- tries, newly discovered and inhabited by barbarous tribes. The principle and the practice have been sanctioned by centuries of experience. What con- stitutes this right of appropriation , so as to exclude other nations from its exercise in a given case, is a question, which has been differently settled in dif- ferent ages of the world. At one time it was the Pope's bull which conferred the title; at another it was discovery only; then settlement under some circumstances, and under others discovery; and then settlennent and discover)' combined. There has been neither a uniform rule, nor a uniform practice. But under any circumstances, it is not easy to see why a certain parallel of latitude is de- clared to be the boundary of our claim. If the val- ley of a river were assumed, a principle might be also assumed, which would shut us up in it. This would be a natural and a tangible boundary. How, indeed, England could look to her own practice and a.cquisitions, and say to us, you are stopped by this hill, or by that valley, or by that river, I know not. England, whose colonial charters extended from the Atlantic to the South sea, as the Pacific ocean was then called, and who actually ejected the French from the country between the mountains and the Mississippi, where they had first estab- hshed themselves, upon the very ground that their own rights of discovery, as shown by these chart- ers, ran indefinitely west; and who now holds the continent of Australia — a region larger than Eu- rope — by virtue of the right of discovery; or, in other words, because Captain Cook sailed along a portion of its coast, and occasionally hoisted a pole, or buried a bottle. I am well aware there must be limits to this conventional title, by which new countries are claimed; nor will it be always easy to assign them in fact, as they cannot be assigned in principle. We claim the Oregon ter- ritory. The grounds of this claim are before the world. The country it covers extends from Cal- ifornia to the Russian possessions, and from the Rocky mountains to the Pacific ocean, — a homoge- neous country, unclaimed by England, when our title commenced, similar in its character, its pro- ductions, its climate, its interests, and its wants, in all that constitutes natural identity, and by these elements of union, calculated forever to be united together, — no more to be divided by the paral- lel of 49°, than by the parallel of 43°, nor by any of the geographical circles marked upon arti- ficial globes. No more to be so divided, than any of the possessions of England, scattered over the world. In thus claiming the whole of this unap- propriated country, unappropriated when our title attached to it, the valley of the Columbia, the val- ley of Frazer's river, and all the other hills and valleys which diversify its surface, we but follow the example set us by the nations of the other hemisphere, and hold on to the possession of a country, wliich is one, and ought to be indivisible. It is contended that this parallel of 49° is the northern boundary of our just claim, because for many years it was assumed as such by our Gov- ernment, and that we are bound by its early course in this controversy; that the treaty of Utrecht, in 1713, between France and England, provided for the appointment of commissioners, to establish a luie of division between their respective colonies upo)! the continent of North America, and that this parallel of 49° was thus established. The honor- able Senator from Georgia, in his remarks a few days since, if he did not abandon this pretension, still abandoned all reference to it, in the support of his position. He contended, that the parallel of 49° was our boundary, but for other reasons. In the view I am now taking, sir, my piincipal object, as will be seen, is to show, that we are at full" lib- erty to assert our claim to the country north of 49°, unembarrassed by the early action of our own Gov- ernment, by showing that the Government was led into error respecting its rights by an historical state- ment, probably inaccurate in itself, certainly inac- curate, if applied to Oregon, but then supposed to be true in both respects. Now, what was this error .' It was the assertion I have just mentioned, that agreeably to the treaty of Utrecht, the parallel of 49° was established as a boundary, and having been continued west, had become the northern limit of Oregon — at least of our Oregon. Upon this ground, and upon this ground alone, rested the actions and the pretensions of our Government in this matter. So far, then, as any question of na- tional faith or justice is involved in this subject, we must test the proceedings of the Government by its owii views, not by other considerations presented here at this day. The Government of the United States gave to that of Great Britain their claim, and their reasons for it. That claim first stopped at 49°, while the treaty of Utrecht was supposed to affect it, as part of Louisiana, and before we had acquired another title by the acquisition of Florida. Since then, it has been ascertained that that treaty never extended to Oregon; and we have strength- ened and perfected our claim by another purcha.se. It is for these reasons, that I confine myself to what has passed between the two Governments, with a view to ascertain our present obligations, and omit the considerations presented by the honorable Sen- ator from Georgia. I will barely remark, however, that in the far most important fact to which he re- 'fers, as affecting the extent of our claim — to wit: the latitude of tlie source of the Columbia river — he is under a misapprehension. He put it at 49°. But it is far north of that. It is navigable by ca- noes to the Three Forks, about the latitude of 52° How far beyond that is its head spring, I know not. Mr. Greenhow, in his work on Oregon — a work marked with talent, industry, and caution — has explained how this misapprehension respecting the parallel of 49° originated. He has brought for- ward proofs, both positive and negative, to show that no such line was established by the treaty of Utrecht, nor by commissaries, named to carry its provisions into effect. I shall not go over the sub- ject, but beg leave to refer the gentlemen, who maintain the contrary opinion, to the investiga- tions they will find in that work. The assertion, however, has been so peremptorily made, and the conclusions drawn from it, if true, and if the line extended to Oregon, would discredit so large a portion of our title to that country, that I may be pardoned for briefly alluding to one or two consid- erations, which seem to me to demonstrate the er- ror respecting this assumed line of parallel of 49°, at any rate in its extension to Oregon. It will be perceived, sir, that there are two questions involved in this matter: one a purely historical question, whether commissaries acting under the treaty of Utrecht, established the parallel of 49° as the boundary between the French and English possessions upon this continent; and the other a practical one, v/hether such a line was ex- tended west to the Pacific ocean. As to the first, sir, I refer honorable Senators to Mr. Greenhow's work, and to the authorities he quotes. I do not presume to speak authoritatively upon the question, but I do not hesitate to express my opinion that Mr. Greenhow has made out a strong case; and my own impression is, that such a line was not actually and ofRcially established. Still, sir, I do not say that it is a point, upon which there may not be differences of opinion; nor diat, however it may be ultimately determined, the so- lution of the matter will discredit the judgment of any one. This, Iwwever, has relation to the line terminating with the Hudson Bay possessions; and, as I have observed, the fact is a mere ques- tion of history, without the least bearing upon our controversy with England. I have, however, one preliminary remark to make in this connexion, and it is this: let him who as- serts that our claim west of the Rocky mountains is bounded by the parallel of 49°, prove it. The burden is upon him, not upon vis. If commissaries under the treaty of Utrecht established it, produce their award. Proof of it, if it exists, is to be found in London or Paris. Such an act was not done without leaving the most authentic evidence be- hind it. Produce it. When was the award made? What were its terms .'' What were its circumstan- ces ? Why, a suit between man and man for an indi of land, would not be decided by such evidence as this, especially discredited as it is, in any court of the United States. The party claiming under it would be told. There is better evidence in yourpoicer. Seek it in London or Paris, and bring forirard the cer- tified copy of the proceedings of the co7nmissioners. This is equally the dictate of common sense and of common law, and there is not always the same union between those high tribunals, as many know, to their cost. Let no man, therefore, assume this line as a barrier to his country's claim without proving it. This line is first historically made known in the negotiations between our Government and that of England by Mr. Madison, in a despatch to Mr. Monroe in 1804. Mr. Madison alludes to an his' torical notice he had somewhere found, stating that commissioners under the treaty of Utrecht had es- tablished the line of 49° as the boundary of the British and Fi-ench possessions, thus fixing that par- allel as the northern boundary of Louisiana. I have examined this despatch, and I find that he ' speaks doubtfully respecting the authenticity of this notice; and desires Mr. Monroe, before he made it the basis of a proposition, to ascertain if the facts were truly stated, as the means of doing ; so were not to be found in this country. Mr. Mon- roe, however, could have made no investigation; or if lie did so, ic nrast Tiave been unsatisfactoiy, for he transmits the j)roposition substantially in the words of the historian Douglas, from whom, prob- ably, Mr, Madison acquired this notice, without reference to any authority, either historical or dip- lomatic, I cannot find, that the British Government ever took the slightest notice of the assertion respecting this incident, growing out of the treaty of Utrecht, though it has iDcen referred to more than once by •our diplomatic agents, in tlieir communications to the British authorities since that period. But in late years, it has disappeared from the ■correspondence, and neither party has adverted to it, nor relied upon it. It is strange, indeed, that in this body we should now assume the existence of a fact like this, supposed to have a most important bearing upon the rights of the parties, when the able men to whose custody the maintenance of these rights has been recently committed, have to- tally abandoned it in their arguments and illustra- tions. The assumption was originally an errone- ous one — certainly so, so far as respects Oregon; but while it was believed to be true, the conse- quences were rightfully and lionestly carried out by Our Government, and the line was claimed as a boundary. But our Government is now better informed, as the British Government, no doubt, al- ways were, and thence their silence upon the sub- ject; and the titles of both parties are investigated without refereiice to this historical error, or to the ■position in which it temporarily placed them. The ti-eaty of Utrecht never refers to the parallel of 49°, and the boundaries it proposed to establish were those between the French and English colo- nies, including the Hudson Bay Company in Can- dida. The charter of the Hudson Bay Company granted to the proprietors all the " lands, coun- tries, and territories," upon the waters discharging ■themselves into Hudson's Bay. At the date of the treaty of Utrecht, which was in 1713, Great Brit- ain claimed nothing west of those " lands, coun- tries, and territories,'" and of course there was no- thing to divide between her and France w-est of that line. Again, in 1?13, the northwestern coast was al- most a terra incognita — a blank upon the map of the world, England then neither knew a foot of it, nor claimed a foot of it. By adverting to the letter of Messrs. Gallatin and Rush, communi- cating an accotmt of their interview with Messrs. "Goulburn and Robinson, British conimissionei-e, dated October 20th, 1818, and to the letter of Mr. Pakenhara to Mr, Calhoun, dated September 12th, 1844, it will be seen that the commencement of the British claim is effectively limited to the discoveries of Captain Cook in 1778. How, then, ■could a boundary have been established fifty years before, in a region where no Englishman had ever penetrated, and to which England had never as- serted a pretension ? And yet the assumption, that the parallel of 49 degrees was established by the treaty of Utrecht, as a line between France and England, in those unknown regions, necessarily ■involves these inconsistent conclusions. But be- sides, if England^ as a party to the treaty of Utrecht, established this line running to the west- •ern ocean as the northern boundary of Louisiana, ■what possible claim has she now south of that line ? The very fact of her existing pretensions, how- ever unfounded these may be, shows that she con- siders herself no party to such a line of division. It shows, in fact, that no line was run; for if it had been, the evidence of it would be in the English archives, and, in truth, would be known to the world without contradiction. . The establishment of a boundary between two great nations is no hidden fact; and we may now safely assume, that the parallel of 49° never divided the Oregon terri- toi-y, and establishes no barrier to the rights by which we claim it. The assertion was originally a mere dictum, now shown to be vmfounded. The Senator from Maine has adverted likewise to the treaty of 1763, as furnishing additional tes- timony in favor of this line. That treaty merely provides, that the confines lelween the Biitish and French dominions shall be fixed irrevocably by a line draion along the middle of the river Mississippi, from its source, &fc. This is the whole provision that bears upon this subject. I do not stop to analyze it. That cannot be necessary. It is obvious that this arrangement merely established tbe Mississippi river as a boundary between the two countries, leaving their other claims precisely as they for- merly existed. And this, too, was fifteen years before the voyage of Captain Cook, the com- mencement of the British title on the northwest coast. Briefly, sir, there are six reasons, which prove that this ].iarallel was never established un- der the treaty of Utrecht, so far at least as regards Oregon. 1. It is not shown that any line was established on the parallel of 49 to the Pacific ocean. If the fact be so, the proper evidence is at Paris or London, and should be produced. 2. The country on the northwestern coast was then unknown, and I believe unclaimed; or, at any rate, no circumstances had arisen to call in question any claim to it. 3. The British negotiators in 1826, and their Minister here in 1844, fixed, in effect, upon the voyage of Captain Cook in 1778 as the commence- ment of the British title in what is now called Oregon. 4. The treaty of Utrecht provides for the estab- lishment of a line between the French and English colonies, including the Hudson Bay Company. The British held nothing west of that company's possessions, which, by the charter, includes only the-" lands, countries, and territories, "on the wa- ters running into Hudson's Bay. 5. If England established the line to the Pacific ocean, she can have no claim south of it; and this kind of argumentum ad hominem becomes con- clusive. And, let me add, that I owe this argu- ment to my friend from Missouri, [Mr. Atchison,] to whose remarks upon Oregon the Senate listened with profit and pleasure some days since. 6. How could France and England claim the country to the Pacific, so as to divide it between them in 1730, when, as late as 1790, the British Government, by the Nootka convention, expressly i-ecognised the Spanish title to that country, and claimed only the use of it for its own subjects, in common with those of Spain? I now ask, sir, what right has any American statesman , or what right has any British states- man, to contend that our claim, whatever it may be, is not just as good north of this line as it is south of it? When this .qxiestion is answered to my satisfaction, I, for one, will consent to stop there. But until then, I am amon:^ those, who mean to march, if we can, to the Russian boun- dary. Now, Mr. President, it is the very ground as- sumed by the Senator from North Carolina, and by other Senators, respecting this parallel of 49°, together with the course of this discussion, which furnishes me with the most poweiful argument against the reference of this controversy to arbi- tration. I have shown, I trust, that there is no such line of demarcation, established under the treaty of Utrecht, extending to the Oregon territory, and the misapprehension, whence the opinion arose. While such a conviction prevailed, it was fairly and properly assumed by the Government as the northern boundary of the Oregon claim, before the Florida treaty. Since that treaty I consider the offers on our part as offers of compromise, not re- cognitions of a line, from the resumption of nego- tiations by Mr. Rush, who carried our title to 51°, to their abandonment in 1827 by Mr. Gallatin, who, finding a satisfactory adjustment impossible, withdrew the pending offer, and asserted that his Government " would consider itself at liberty to contend for the full extent of the claims of the Uni- ted States. " And for their full extent we do claim. And I take the opportunity to tender my small tribute of approbation to the general conduct of these negotiations by the American Government, and their commissioners, and especially to Mr. Rush, a citizen as well known for his private worth as for his high talents and great public services, and who seems to have been the first, as Mr. Green- how i-emarks, " to inquire cai-efully into the facts of the case." And it is not one of the least curious phases of this controversy, that down to this very day the pretensions of England are either wholly contradic- tory, or are shrouded in apparently studied ob- scurity. She asserts no exclusive claim anywhere, but an equal claim everywhere. " A right of joint occupancy in the Oregon terri- ' tory," says the British Minister in his letter to Mr. Calhoun, dated September 12, 1844, " of ' which right she can be divested with respect to ' any part of that territory, only by an equal parti- ' tion of the ivhole between the parties." And yet, notwithstanding he refers to the ivhole territory, still, in the protocol of the conference at Washington, dated September 24, 1844, he refused to enter into any discussion respecting the country north of 49°, because it u'os xinderstood by the Bntish Government to form the basis of negotiation on the part of the United States. Thus, on the 12tli of September, recognising our right to an equal, un- divided moiety of Oregon, and two v.reeks after coolly claiming the nortliern half of it, as a fact not even to be called into question, and then offering to discuss with us the mutual claims of the two coun- tries to the southern half! Well, sir, influenced by the motives I have stated, and by a desire to terminate this tedious controversy, this parallel of 49°, sometimes with, and sometimes without an accessory, has been four times offered by us to the British Government, and four times rejected, and once indignantly so; and three times withdrawn. Twice withdrawii in the^very terras — once by Mr. Gallatin, November IS, 1826, who withdrew a proposition made by- Mr. Rush, and once during the present Admin- istration; and once withdrawn in effect, thou"-b without the use of that word, by Mr. Gallatin,°in 1827, who announced to the British negotiator* " that his Government did not hold itself bound • hereafter, in consequence of any proposal, which ' it had made for a line of separation between the- ' ten-itories of the two nations beyond the Rocky ' mountains; but would consider itself at liberty to ' contend for the full extent of the claim.s of the 'United States." The Senator from Louislaiia will perceive, that he was in error yesterday, when he said, that no- • offer of a compromise had ever been withdrawn^ till the withdrawal made by the present Adminis- tration, unless such offer had been announced as- an ultimatum. But without recurring to any au- thority upon this subject, it is evident, that if a nation is forever bound by an oiler of compromise,, no prudent nation would ever make such an offer. Tliere would be no reciprocity in such a condition of things. In controversies respecting territorj'^ each party would hold on to its extreme limit; for if it made an ofler less than that, it would aban- don, in fact, so much of its own pretensions, leav- ing those of its opponent in their full integrity. Su'ch, sir, is the state of our controversy with England; and yet honorable Senators upon this floor, able lawyers and jurists also, maintain that this line, thus offered, and refused, and withdrawn,. is now in effect the limit of our claim, and that we are bound honorably , and morally , and they say,, at the risk of the censure of the world,, to receive it it as our boundary whenever England chooses so to accept it. This is all very strcuige, and would seem to me so untenable, as not to be worthy of examination, if it were not urged by such high au- thorities. Let us look at it. The honorable Senator from Maryland has en- tered more fully into this branch of the subject than any other member of this body, and I shall therefore confine my inquiries to his remarks. There are two propositions connected with this matter, which it is proper to consider separately- The first is, the obligation upon the President, agreeably to his own views, to accept this rejected offer, if it comes back to him; and the other is, the obligation upon the country, and upon this body,, as one of its depositaries of the treaty-making power, to confirm the act of the President, s'.iould it come here for confirmation. What, sir, is a compromise .' It is an ofler made by one party to the other to take less than his whole claim, M'ith a view to an amicable adjustment of the controversy, whatever this may be. The doctrine of compro- mises is founded upon universal reason; and its obligations, I believe, are everywhere the same, whether in the codes of municipal or general law. An offer made in this spirit never furnishes the slightest presumption against the claim of the party making it; and for the best of reasons, not only t!;at this amicable process of settlement may be encouraged and extended, but because it will often happen, that both individuals and nations ma}'' be willing to sacrifice a portion of what they consider their just rights, rather than encounter the certain expense and trouble, and the uncertain issue of litigation, whether that litigation be in a court of justice, or upon a battle-field,. Such is the genesal principle; and the practical operation of any otlier would hold one of the parties forever bound, and leave the other forever free. One makes his offer, and must adhere to it, while the other declines it, or refuses it, and still may hold on to it indefi- nitely. Surely it cannot be necessary to pursue this illustration farther. Such a construction as this, which plays fast and loose at the same time, carries with it its own refutation, however respectable the authority, which attempts to support it. But, revert- ing to the obligation of the President, what says the honorable Senator from Maryland ? He says that the President — not James K. Polk, but the Chief Magisti-ate of the nation — havhig felt an ira- phed obligation to renew the offer of 49°, is now bound in all time to accept it, and, I suppose, pa- tiently to wait for it, till the demand comes. I must say, that in this brief abstract of the Presi- dent's views, the Senator has hardly done justice to him. I do not stand here to say, what the Pres- ident will do, should Great Britain propose to ac- cept the parallel of 49° as the boundary between the two countries. In the first place, it would be to argue upon a gratuitous assumption . I have not the slightest reason to believe, that the British Government have given any intimation that it will ever come back to that line. But, in the second place, if it should, what then ? The incipient step is for the President to take, and I should leave the matter here, without remark, had not the Senator from Maryland, and the Senator from North Car- olina, and other Senators, labored to impress the conviction, that the President ought, and must, and would, close with the British proposition to accept the parallel of 49°, should it be made. I shall not analyze the words of the President's Message, but content myself with a genex-al allusion to it. Truth is seldom promoted by picking out particular phrases, and placing them in juxtaposition. The President says — and it is evident the whole Message was carefully prepared — that though he entertained the settled conviction, that the Brit- ish title to any portion of Oregon could not be maintained; yet, in deference to the action of his predecessors, and to what had been done, and in consideration, that the pending negotia- tion had been commenced on the basis of compro- mise, he determined, in a spirit of compromise, to offer a part of what had been offered before — the parallel of 49°, v/ithout the navigation of the Co- lumbia river, 'He says this proposition was re- jected, and in what terms we all know, and that he immediately withdrew it, and then asserted our title to the whole of Oregon, and maintained it by irrefragable arguments. Now, sir, I am not going to argue with any man, who seeks to deduce from this language a conviction in the mind of the President, that he considers himself under the slightest obligation to England to accept the parallel of 49°, should she desire it as a boundary. In this account of his proceedings, he is explain- ing to his countrymen the operations of his own mind, the reasons which induced him to make this offer, made, as he says, "in deference alone to what had been done by my predecessors, and the implied obligations their acts seemed to im- pose." What obligations? None to England, for none had been created; but the obligations im- posed upon a prudent statesman to look at the actions and views of his predecessors, and not to depart from them without good reasons. The ob- vious meaning is this: I found the negotiations pending; after an interval of almost twenty years, they had been renewed; they began on the basis of compromise, and though three times a compro- mise had been offered to England and rejected, and though she had not the slightest right to claim, or even to expect it would be offered to her again, and though I determined, that the same proposi- tion should not be offered to her, still, as a proof of the moderation of the United States, I deemed it expedient to make her another offer, less than the preceding one, which a quarter of a century before she had rejected. A curious obligation this, if it has reference to the rights of England, and a curious mode of fulfilling it ! If he (the President) were under any obligation to her, the obligation was complete, to make the offer as it had been made before. And she has the same right to claim the navigation of the Columbia river, that she has to claim the parallel of 49° as a boundary; and the honorable Senator from Louisiana has placed the matter upon this very ground. As- suming, that the obligation referred to by the President was an obligation to England, he thinks the President failed in his duty in not carrying out his own views of the national duties. Why, sir, if offers of compromise were to be made till doomsday, the rights of both parties would remain in their integrity. And what offer creates this implied obligation ? Several offers have been made by our Government to that of England for the adjustment of this controversy. Which creates this obligation, one of them, or all of them.' But it is very clear, sir, that neither of them creates it. The common-sense view of this subject is the true one in this case, as in most other cases. The party offering says to its adversary, I will consent to that line. If you consent to it, our controversy will be amicably adjusted. The only obligation created by this act is, to allow reasonable time to the other party for decision, and then faithfully to adhere to the terms, should they be accepted. If unreason- ably delayed, still more if rejected, both parties are thrown back upon their original position, unem- barrassed by this attempt at conciliation. But, sir, the President is a judge of his own duties. I am not afraid to leave them with him — they are in safe keep- ing. Should the ((uestion respecting this parallel ever be presented to him for decision, I have a perfect conviction, that whether he decide for it or against it, or refer it to the consideration of the Senate, he will fulfil his responsible duties with a eonseientious regard to the high obligations hs is under to the country and to the Constitution. But we, too, have duties to perform, and among these may be the necessity of deciding for ourselves tlie nature and extent of this obligation upon the nation. I do not speak now of any considerations of expediency, wliieh may operate upon the decision of this matter. There are none which will operate upon me. But I assume to myself no right to prescribe the course of others, whether of the President or of the Senate, or to judge it when taken. But 1 reject this doctrine of a national obligation to England. I deny the right of any one to commit the faith of this coun- try to a rejected line — to bind us, leaving our opponent un- bound — to convert a mere offer of compromise into the sur- render of a claim ; to change the established opinions and usages of the world upon tliis subjoet. It seems to me, that a cause cannot be strong which needs such auxiUaries for its support. But, sir, this doctrine, as I before observed, and the course of the remarks by which it is endeavored to maintain it, furnish to me conclusive arguments against the reference of this controversy to arbitration. Here, at home, in this co- ordinate branch of the national legislature, we are told, and 8 almost ex cathedra too. that we have concluded ourselves, by tliis offer of 49°, and that upon tliat paralUl nuisi lie our boundary, when England makes up her mind to come to it. Now, in this state of the matter, what would be the effict of an arbitration .' The Secretary of State, in his answer to the Briti.-h Minister, has ably and truly exposed the ten- dency of this process of adjustmeut, whether public or pri- vate. Its tendency is not to settle the actual rights of the parties, but to compromise them. To divide, and not to decide. We all know this, and he who runs may read it in the history of almost every arbitration, within the circle of his observation. Though, as I have already said, the otlcrs of compromise we have made to England ought not to furnish the slightest prctsumptiou against the validity of our whole claim, and would not,before any well-regulated judicial tribu- nal in Christendom, yetcommitour cause to arbitration, and where are we .? We might as well throw to the winds all the facts, and arguments, and illustrations, upon which we bui;d our claim, and say to the arbitrators, do as you please, we aje at your mercy. For this they would do at any rate. They would not lieed your views, but they would turn to the history of tlie controversy, and to the course of the parties. They would measure what each had offered, and would split tbe difference to the ninth part of a hair. They would assume, that the American claim goes to the 49th parallel, and tlie British claim to the Columbia river; and they would add, and subtract, and multiply, and divide, till all this process would end in a tolerably equal partition of what no one upon this floor denies, and what every American, or almost every American, as firmly believes makes part of his coun- try, as does the tomb at Mount Vernon, or the grave at tlie Hermitage, where countless generations of men will come as to places of pilgrimage— not, indeed, to worship, bat to think upon the days and the deeds of the patriots and warriors, who sleep below. You could not find a sovereign nor a subject, a State nor a citizen in Christ- endom, who, in such a controversy between two great nations, would not rather decide with the dividers, than with the titles. Well, sir, I agree fully, that if we wish to get rid of all this matter vvithout regard to the why or the how, we may safely commit it to the custody of arbi- trators. Their decision, though we should know it before- hand, might be considered a plaster for our wounded honor. A poor one, indeed, which would leave a most unsightly scar. But, in reality, sir, this course of action would be open and obvious to ourselves and to the world. Its motives and its results would be equally palpable. We should lose much in interest, and much more in character. For myself, I would far rather divide with England this portion of the territory, tlian commit our rights to arbitiation. There would be some magnanimity in such a procedure. But to take shelter behind this form of trial is to resort to a misera- ble subterfuge, which, under the prete.xt of an equal adjust- ment, would be but a surrender. If, then, we se/iously be- lieve in our own claims, even to 49°, and sincerely desire to maintain them, we must unite in approving the rejection, by the President, of this pacific means of transfening to England a valuable part of our common country. Mr. President, the honorable Senator from North Carolina, not now in his seat, called tliose, who believe our title to 54° 40' to be clear, the ultra friends of the President, and, I understood him, he claimed to be his true friend, saving him from those imprudent ones. As I find myself in this cate- gory, I am obnoxious to the charge, and with the natural instinct of self-defence, I desire to repel it. We are ultra friends, because we do not stop at 49°. I have already shown, that there is no stopping- place on that parallel — no true rest for an American foot. The Senator himself considers our title to that line clear and indisputable, and I understood him that he would maintain it, come what might. Well, if it is found that the treaty of Utrecht no more extended to Oregon than to the moon, whatever other boundary may be sought or found, it cannot be that purely gratuitous boun- dary — the parallel of 49°. And as the Senator from North Carolina must leave it, where mil he find a better barrier than the Russian possessions.' But he says, also, that though our title to the country north of 49° is not indisputable, still it is better than any other title. Now, I will appeal to the Senator's charity — no, not to his charity, that is not necessary — but I will appeal to his sense of justice, to say, whether such a difference of opinion as exists between himself and me on this subject can justly be characterized as ultraism on my part. Our title, he says, is the best — not indisputable ; but still the best. The same evidence, which produced this con- viction in his mind, produces a stronger one in mine; and this is tlie tribute, which every day's experience pays to hu- man fallibility. We are differently constituted, and differ- ently affected by the same facts and arguments. While the honorable Senator stands upon the parallel of 49°, as tlie pre- cise line, where our questionable and unquestionable titles meet, tliere aregniany, and I am amung the number, who carry our unquestionable title to tbe Russian boundary in one direction, and some, i)i'rhaps. though I have not found one,. who carry it in another direction tj the Columbia river. It seems to me in bad taste, to say the least of it, for any member to assume his own views as infallible, and to say to all the worid, who ditf;trfroin lihn, whether on the right hand or on the left, My opinion is the trut' standard of orthodoxy^ and everyone, who d::parts from it is a heretic and a.n ultra. Thus to stigmatize a large portion of the Senate, is not, I am sure, the intention of the Senator; but such is, in fact and effect, the direct tendency of his remarks. We are ultra, because, to use a somewhat quaint but a forcible apothegm, we u-ill not meastcrc our corn l/y Ais bushel. Why, sir, we have each a bushel of our own, given us by the Creator, and till the Senator's is sealed and certiiied by a higher author- ity, we beg leave to keep our own, and to measure our duties by it. I did not understand the precise object of some of the re- marks of the Senator from North Caroiina,thnugh I had less difficulty respecting tlie remarks themselves. He told us the President nowhere claimed 54° 40'; and I presume he thus contended in order to show that the President might consistently accept any boundary south of that parallel. I again disclaim all interference with the President in the ex- ecution of his duties. I do not think, that what he will do in a gratuitous case, should furnish the subject ol' specula- tion upon this floor. I know what I will do, and that is enough for me ; and as I took the opportunity, three years ago, in a public and printed address, at Fort Wa} ne, to de- fine my position in this matter, before I became a member of this body, my allusion to it here cannot be deemed the premature expression of my opinion. I then said : " Our claim to the country west of the Rocky mountains ' is as undeniable as our right to Bunker's Hill and New ' Orleans ; and who will call in question our title to these ' blood-stained fields ? And I ti ust it will be maintained ' with a vigor and promptitude equal to its justice. War is ' a great evil, but not so great as national dishonor. Little ' is gained by yielding to insolent and unjust pretensions. ' It is better to defend the first inch of territory than thejast. ' Far better, in dealing with England, to resist aggression, 'whether of impressment, of search, or of territory, when ' first attempted, than to yield in the hope, that forbearance ' will be met in a just spirit, and will lead to an amicable ' compromise. Let us have no red lines upon tlie map of ' Oregon. Let us hold on to the integrity of our just claim. 'And if war come, be it so ; I do not believe it will be long ' avoided, unless prevented by intestine difliculties in tlie ' Britii^h Empire. And wo be to us, if we flatter ourtelves it ' can be arre-ted by any system of concession. Of all delu- ' sions, this would be the most fatal, and we should awake ' from it a dishonored, if not a ruined people." Now the Oregon I claim, is all Oregon, and no vote of mine in this Senate will surrender one inch of it to England. But tlie Senator from North Carolina says, that the Oregon the President claims is an Oregon of his own, and not tlie country, which now excites the anxious solicitude of the American people. And if it were so, is it the duty of a friend, I may almost say claiming to be an exclusive one, to hold up to his countrymen the W'ord of promise of their Chief Magristrate, thus kept to the ear, but not to the hope ? But it is not so. The honorable Senator has been led uito an error — ;i palpable error. The Preside«t says the British pretensions could not be maintained to any 'portion of the Oregon territory. He says, also, tliat our title to the whole of the Oregon territory is maintained by irrefragable facts and arguments. He says British laws have been extended throughout the whole of Oregon. Now, sir, has any man a right to s!iy, tliat the President falters in his purpose, by talking of the whole of a country, when he does not mean the whole of it.' No, sir ; the idea never occurred to him, never crossed his mind. VVhen he said Oregon, he meant so ; and I have no more doubt, than I have of my existence, that be believes as firmly in the American title to it, as he believes he is now the Chief Magistrate of the United States. If it were possible, that this proposition needed support, it would be easily found. The communications of tlie Sec- retary of State, are the communications of the President, written by his direction and submitted for his approbation, and never sent without his supervision, and very seldom, I imagine, without emendations by him. The correspondence with the British Minister, laid before us at the commence- ment of the session, was doubly his. His, because carried on by his Secretary of State, with a foreign Government, and his because communicated to Congress and his country, as the depository of his views and measures. Well, sir, in 9 e letter from the Secretarj' of State to Mr. Pakenham, da- d July 12, 1845, Mr. Buchanan says: " Upon the whole, from tlie most careful and ample ex- mination which the undersigned has been able to bestow ipon the subject, he Is satisfied that the Spanish American itle now held by the United States, embracing the whole territory between the paraUels of 42 degrees and 54 degrees lO minutes, is the best title in existence to this entire re- ^on," &c. And he adds . '• Notwithstanding such was and still is the opinion of the resident," &c. Human words and human deeds are worthless to disclose iraan opinions, if the Oregon of the President is not tlie regon we claim and hope to secure. The Senator from North Carolina has presented to us some culiar views of the President's position and duties, and has tduced his futm-e com-se, not from his Message, but from •.trinsic circumstances, acts of omission and of commission, he calls them, by which the language of the President is be conti-olled,and his further course in this controversy gulated. I doubt the propriety, as well as the wisdom, of 1 tiiis, either as regards the President, the Senate, or the iuntry. If successful in his declarations or expositions, hichcver they may be, I do not see what practical advaa- ge the Senator expected to gain. The President would ill have to perform his own duties, and we to psrform ours, ithout reference to the embarrassments created by tliis )vel mode of reading the past views and tlie future course tlie Chief Magistrate. In the mean time, what better plan mid be devised to excite the public mind, and to rouse sus- cions, which would fly upon tlie wings of the wind to the rthest verge of the countiy .' No such intention ever en- red the mind of the honorable Senator ; but I submit to m, if, in its very nature, this process is not calculated to ;oduce such a result, and whether, in fact, it has not pro- iced it. And yet, it seems to me, that the reasons in sup- )rt of it are utterly insufficient to justify the conclusions. M^hat are these reasons .' I will just touch some of tlieni, iving no time to pursue the subject. There were two acts of commission: one wastheofFer he- re made of the parallel of 49° as a compromise ; and the her was the expression of Mr. Buchanan in his last letter the British Minister, dated August 30th, 1845, that the resident hoped the controversy would be terminated with- it a collision. Now, sir, as to the first. I trust I have shown, that what- 'er course the President may pursue respecting the parallel ■ 49°, as a boundary hereafter, his duty will be before him, lembarrassed by the offer heretofore made, and that, conse- lently, that circumstance is no key to unlock the hidden ture. And as to tlie second. I will ask the honorable Senator upon reflection, he thinks the expression of the President's )pc is really entitled to this grave consideration. It seems to me partly a polite and courteous phrase, and irtly the sincere declai'ation of a wish, that some mode ight be devised for an amicable adjustment of this matter, et us not deprive diplomatists of that hope, vs'hicli carries ! all forward to the bright recompense of the future. But t us not convert tlie expression of it into solid promises, ir settled convictions. And what are the acts of omission ? One is the neglect to commend defensive measures, and the other is a want of \nfidenc3 in the chairman of the Committee on Foreign slatious. And now for tlie first. I presume ere this the honorable jnator is aware, that he has entirely misunderstood the ews of the Pre.«ident upon this subject. In his Mes- .ge, at the commencement of the session, the President commended that a force of mounted riflemen should be .ised, and also an augmentation of the naval means of the )uutry. But later in the session, in conformity with reso- tions which originated here, recommendations and esti- ates, seen and approvjd by the President, and his in fact, jreeably to the constitution of our Executive department, ere sent, by the Secretaries of War and of the Navy, to the oper committees of the Senate. A bill was reported by e Naval Committee for an additional steam force, and was )ly and vigorously advocated by the honorable chairman of lat committee. ISut it was put to sleep, partly, if not prin- pally, I believe, upon the ground that, if you cannot im- ediately equip a na\'y, therefore you must not build a ship; idif 3-ou do not require an army, therefore you must not raise regiment. And the result may well have been taken as an idication both by the Naval and Military Committees, that le Senate did not deem an augmentation of the defensive leans of the country necessary mider the circumstances, nd therefore prevented all further action on their part, as seless. For I consider the proposition of tlie Navcil Com- mittee, thus put to sleep, one of the least objectionable of all the measures subiiiitted to us under the sanction of the President. I have looked over these estimates, sir, both from tlie War and Navy' Departments, and I consider them proper and judicious, in the existing state of our relations vritli England ; and I will add, the heads of both of those departments dischai-ged thtdr responsible duties — for their duties were responsible — in a satisfactory manner. A brief recapitulationmaynotbe miacceptable, nor unpro- fitable. The Secretary of War recommended the immediate pas- sage of a bill for the new works. An appropriation of $300,000 for the fortification and ob- struction of channels; and also for field works. An appropriation of .f 100,000 for geneial contingencies in the field, including the preparation of a pontoon equipage. An estimate of the sum of $5,000,000, as necessary for fortifications and obstructions, to be appropriated when Congress might think the aspect of affairs threatened hos- tilities, and then to be placed at the disposition of the Presi- dent. The estimate for ordnance and ordnance stores amounted to $4,279,680— of course to be appropriated as Congress might deem proper. An addition to the army of so many privates as would raise each company to 100 men, thus adding 7,960 men to the army. Authority to the President to raise 50,000 volunteers, to be called into tlie pubUc service for one year, whenever re- quired. The propositions respecting fortifications and ordnance came from the proper bureaus, and the proposition for an augmentation of the army and a volunteer force came from the commanding general, vi'hose high character and gallant services in the field, justly give great weight to his opinions; and those propositions were assumed by the Secretary, and he became responsible for them. The Secretary of the Navy recommended an accumulation of naval materials and stores to tlie amount of $1,060,000. For the repair and equipment of all the vessels in ordina- ry, and of the frigates of the United States, $2,145,000. For three steam-frigates, five steam-sloops, and two steam- ers of a smaller class, $3,310,000. Naval ordnance and stores, $360,000. How these estimates were prepared in the Navy Depart- ment, the document in my possession does not show. I presume they went through the proper bureaus. They came to the Senate, however, as the act of the Secretary. It is obvious that all these appropriations, in any contin- gency, would not be wanted for some time ; and, indeed, that the full legislative action upon the subject would await the developments growing out of our foreign relations. Or- dinary prudence requires that a commencement should be immediately made ; to what extent, Congress must judge. But it will be remarked, that much the larger portion of these estimates is for materials and supplies, which we must have, some time or other, and ought to have ere long, let the aspect of our foreign affairs be as it may. In making this provision, we but anticipate our necessi- ties, and the worst that can happen will be, that we shall be sooner prepared for a state of things, for which we ought to be always prepared. As to the mode of receiving this information, it has been sanctioned by the practice of the Government for years. Congress and its committees have been in the daily habit of calling upon the heads of the departments for the necessary facts and views in the discharge of their legislative duties. And, in all cases like the present, the reports "are submitted to the President before being sent here, and thus receive his sanction, and they are often changed by his directions. This is well known to all, who are acquainted with theroutme of our executive department. To return now, sir, to this act of omission, this neglect to recommend proper measures of defence, by which the Pres- ident's ^iews are to be interpreted, as I understand, in tliis manner. The President recommends no measui-es of de- fence. Therefore he considers the comitry in no danger. Therefore he intends to yield to the parallel of 49°, which the British Government intends to demand ; and thus there will be no war. Now, sir, more than two months before this position was taken by the honorable Senator, the Pres- ident had recommended by his Secretaries an addition to the army of almost 8,000 men, the organization of 50,000 volunteers, the removal of the lunitations respecting naval establishments, that he might be able to direct such an aug- mentation of the seamen of the navy as circumstances might require, and appropriations for military purposes to the amount of §9,679,680 ; and for naval purposes to the amount of $6,515,000— making in the whole $16,195,580, in addition to the recommendations in Ms Message at the commence- 10 meiit of the session, and to the ordinaiy estimates of the department. It is unnecessary to pursue this topic. What 'vor may be the just construction of the President's nieaninij, which to me is e.xceidingly ciear, it is now obvious that this act of omission bccouios an act of commission, and proves that the Pre.-idont is by no means tranquil respectiug the con- dition of the country. As to tlie alleged want of Executive confidence in the chairman of the Committee on Foreign Relations, I hardly know how to speak of it becoiiungly, when urged in this connexion. Were the fact so, it would seem very .-trange to me, and I should think the President very badly advised, to withhold a proper confidence from one of his truest and most efficient friends upon tills floor, and one, too, who, from his position at the head of a most important commit- tee, was officially entitled to it. No one, who has witnessed the energy, the talent, and the promptitude of the honorable ehainiiau. can doubt the ser- vice he has rendered this Administration', nor the confidence he deserves — a confidence, indeed, demanded more for the sake of the public interest, than for his own sake. But, sir, I have reason to know that the Senator from North Cardlina is in error in all this ; tliat tljis deduction from extrinsic circumstances is but anotlier proof, that truth is not always attained when sought by indirect and remote facts. I have reason to know, that the chairman of the Com- mittee on Foreign Relations communicates freely with tiie President, and enjoys his confidence. And what proof of estrangement between these high func- tionaries is furnished by the honorable Senator from North Carolina.' Why, thus stands the case : The honorable chair- man stated that the opuiionsof the Presidenthad undergone no change; but being interrogated upon the subject, he an- swereil, that the records, and the records alone, were the sources of his information. It seems to me it would better become our position if we all sougln the views of the President, so far as we ougiit to seek them, in the same authentic documents. It would save a world of unprofitable conjecture. Now, sir, what does all this amount to.' Why, to tliis: the President told the Senator from Ohio no more, as to his future course than he told the country and Congress in his Message. It would be strange if he had. The avowal of a line of policy, when the proper circumstances are before him, is the duty of a sound and practical statesman. But I should much doubt the wi:dom of the Chief Magistrate of a great country, who should sit down to speculate upon future and remote contin- gencies, affecting the public welfare, with a view even to the decision upon his own course, and stiU less with a view to its annunciation to the world. Let me, then, ask the Senator, if he thinks it is the duty of the chairman of the Committee on Foreign Relations to put gratuitous questions to tiie President, in order tliat he may be able to come here and declare what the Executive will do in such and such a contingency, which may never happen ; or which, if it do happen, may bring with it cir- cumstances, that may change the whole aspect of the ques- tion .' But I forbear, sir. I consider it unnecessary to pur- sue this question further. A considerable portion of the argument of the Senator from North Carolina was devoted to prove that the Message of the President did not justify these anticipations of war, which it api)ears to myself andto other Senators to do. Not tliat he called in question the natural tendency of the meas- ures recommended by the President, nor the fair construc- tion of his language ; but he controlled these by tlie extrinsic facts to which I have advert"d. I shall say nothing more upon this subject, but I shall fortify my own opinion by the views of other members of this body, who are entitled to more weight than I am. The honorable Senator from South'Carolinasaid "thatUie recommendation in tlie Message is founded upon the con- viction, that there is no hope of compromise of the difficul- ties growing out of the President's Message is too clear to admit of any doubt." After some further remark.s, showing the opinions enter- tained of the dangers of war, he adds : " Entertaining those opinions, we were compelled to oppose notice, because it was necessary to prevent an appeal to arms, aud insure the peaceful settlement of the question." And the Senator from Maryland said : " We have all felt, Mr. President, tiiat atone time at least — I trust tliat time is past — the nation was in imminent danger. From the mo- ment that the President of the United States deemed it right and becoming, in the very outset of his official career, to announce to the world that the title to the northwest territory was clear and indisputable, down to his Mes- sage in December last, I could not see how war was to be averted." And tlie honorable Senator from Louisiana, in his speed! yesterday, advanced the same opinion upon this subject. And the Senator from Georgia also expressed the convic tion that " tliis resolution, based as it is on the President': Message, is a distinct intimation to Groat Britain that thi; matter must be settled, and in a manner acceptable to us, o that at the expiration of that time we will take forcible pos session of the whole country," which of course meansi war. And he adds that "the Senator from North Carolina tell: us, that the President is waiting at the open doorof hiscabi net, ready to adjust this controversy, and to preserve tin peace of the country." " Sir," he adds, " even with the aii of the Senator's optics, I cannot see him there." And hn adds also, if these things w:'re so, referring to the view.j o< the Senator from North Carolina respecting the President':' Message, " I should be sorry to do so." And I fully concuii' nith him in the sentiment. Now, sir, I shall not thrust myself into this dispute — " Non nostrum inter vos tantas componcre lites." During the progress of this discussion, the blessings c peace and the horrors of war have been frequently presente > to us with the force of truth, and sometimes with the fet( veney of an excited imagination. I have listened attentivell to all this, though much of it I remember to have hear r thirty-five years ago. But I beg honorable Senators to recoli lect, that upon this side of the chamber we have interest:! and families, and homes, and a country, as well as the have; and that we are as little disposed to bring war upo our native land, unnecessarily, as they can be. That somi of us know by experience, all of us by reading and reflen tion, the calamities, moral and physical, tliat war brings ii its train. And we appreciate the blessings of peace wilhii conviction as deep and as steadfast. And no one desires i i continuance more eaniestly than I do. But all this leave untouched the only real subject of inquiry. That is nt acknowledge the moral obligation of Governments to avoid It 'yar, where higher obligations do not drive them to it. I will Bi lot call England the Pharisee of nations, but I will say that li he does not hide the light of her own good deeds under a 111 bushel. The ocean scarcely beats upon a shore within sight lUf which her flag is not seen, and within sound of which iCi ier drum is not heard. And yet her moderation is proclaim- Ibld, and often with the sound of her cannon, from one end »'i if the civilized world to the other. She is not like other na- ;al io7i-?, and least of all, like that great !(raspins; inohocracy of 1U%^ West. "I thank God," said the Pharisee of old, "that it am not as other men are." Now the chapter of accidents Ik; las turned up favorably for England, if she will accept the lio ipportunity afforded her. No man in this country wants !(• va;- — idtraiits no more than compromisists,H I may use terms ( u- tilled by the occasion. The extreme partisan of decisive a iie:;sujes asks nothing but the whole of Oregon. Give him lio hat, and he will become as meek as the latest professor of aiiumility, who writes homilies upon national moderation dibr the London Times. Now, sir, let England abandon her ;li irc'tensions, and all these disasters, the consequences of war, lilivhich are foretold — and I do not doubt many of them just- jiiy foretold — will give way, and exist only in the memory of ir.his debate. There is no condition of things, foreseen by Itliiiy man, public or private, in this country, which can ai!ive to England a better line, than 49°. The country north kiijf that line is therefore all she could gain by a contest, giivhich is to involve the fearful consequences predicted iiii both countries; which during its progress, it is said, will ilairing nation after nation within the sphere of its opera- miion, and which is finally to commit to the decision of the giword the great question of free government through the a kvorid, by placing in its path the antagonistic principle, that 51 he many should be governed by the few. What, then, IK tvould England surrender to preserve the peace of the world, ,c md tlius give the first practical proof of moderation to be ll'ound in fhe long annals of her history.' I agree fully with lve>he honorable Senator from Missouri, [Mr. Atchison,] that [0 if England would acknowledge our rights, and withdraw her m apposition to them, and should then ask a better access to ,j Jie ocean for her interior territories, I would grant it with- j'j put hesitation, as a favor, upon the most reasonable consid- jfisration. If this should be done, she would have left about III three hundred miles of coast to fight for; and I will return Tithe question of the gentleman from Maine, and ask if this iliptrip of land is worth the price of such a contest? England ifiiis already gorged with possessions, both continental and in- jsular, overrun, almost overloaded with subjects of all castes, jjcolors, and condition. At this very moment, she is waging ijU two wars of aggrandizement — one for commercial projects upon the La Plata, and the other for a new empire upon the Indus. The latest Morning Chronicle I have seen, one of last month — and that paper is the Whig organ of England — says, and the proposition is enunciated with characteristic coolness, and with as much apparent candor, as if it were extracted from the latest treatise upon public morals, " we can never govern India so well as we might, until v:e ^possess the whole of it." A congenial sentiment is quite as much at home in every English breast, that America would be much letter governed than it is, if England possessed the whole of it. Let the British Government now say, two wars at the same time are enough for the purposes of aggrandizement. We will not encounter a third— we will give up this doubt- ful and disputed claim, and hold on in America to wliat we have got — we will do so much for peace. Let her do this, and I, for one, will say, well done. You begin to practise, though upon a small scale, as you preach. And why not do so ? This territory is separated by an ocean and a continent from England. She cannot long hold it, if she should gain it. I mean long, compared withthe life of nations ; whereas it joins us, intervenes between us and our communication with tlie Pacific, will form an integral — I do not doubt a perpetual — portion of our confederacy, will be, in time, a necessary outlet for our population, and presents all those elements of contiguity and of position, which indicate and invite political unions. But it has been said and resaid, in the Senate and out of it, that two great nations cannot go to war. And why can- not two great nations go to war against one another, as well as two great nations combined agauist a small one ? So far as honor contemns a disparity offeree, the former would be mucli more honorable than the latter. What is going on in the La Plata, where France and Eng- land have sent their united fleets and armies agauist the Ar- gentine republic, and where the eclioes of their cannon are ascending the Parana and its vast tributaries, till they are lost in the gorges of the Andes ? There can be no war in this enhghtened age of the world t What, then, is passing in Africa, where one hundred thou- sand Christian bayonets have driven the Arab from his home, and are pursuing him into the desert, the refuge of the tiur- ban since the days of the patriarchs ? What is passing upon the shores of the Euxine, where the Cossack has left his native plains, and, at the call of Russia, is ascenduig the ridges of the Caucasus to subdue its indi- genous races, and to substitute the mild rule of the Musco- vite for their own patriarchal form of government — depend- ence upon the Czar for dependence upon themselves ? And what is passing in the Punjaub, where the last ad- vices left two mighty armies almost within sight of each other, after having fought a great battle of Hindoo ambition against English moderationl And how long since an enlightened Government, par ex- cellence, broke the barrier of Chinese power, which has so long insulated a vast emphe, and scattered dismay and death along its coasts, because its rulers had interdicted the sale of opium, a drug equally destructive to the moral faculties and to the physical powers of man? The Tartar passed the great wall, and planted his horse tails upon the towers of Pekin. He then became a Chinese, and the empire went on as before. But the Englishman, with his cannon-balls and his opium, has introduced an innovation into the habits and condition of one-third part of the human race, wliich may fatally affect its future prosperity. And how long is it since an English aniiy pissed the gates of Asia, and, ascenditig the table-land of that continent, if it had not been annihilated by a series of disasters, which have few parallels in modern warfare, might have reversed the march of Alexander, and reached the JMediterranean by Nineveh, and Bab}'lon, and Jerusalem? And only five short years have elapsed since Christian cannon were heard in the mountains of Lebanon, and their bombs exploded among the broken monuments of Sidon. In this brief vievi^ and review of pending and recent wars, I do not advert to the hostilities going on among some of the States of Spanish origin upon this continent, in Hayti, in Southern Africa, upon the frontiers of the colony at the Cape of Good Hope, in Madagascar, and in various islands of the Eastern ocean, because these are small wars, and some of them are waged by civilized nations against barbarous tribes, and hardly worthy of attention in these days of philanthro- py — of that philanthropy which neglects objects of misery at home, whether m England or Ireland, the relief of which would be silent and unobtrusive, and seeks them everywhere else through the world, that they may be talked of and ex- hibited as proofs of benevolence — which, as an eminent Frencli writer says, overlooks the wants of our neigh- bors, but goes to the north pole upon a crusade of charityf which has an innate horror at the very idea of black slavery, but looks calmly and philosophically, and with no bowels of M coinpassion, nor compunctions of remorse upon white sla- very and brown slavery, amounting to millions upon mil- lions in Russia, and in tlie EmjjUsIi possessions in Indi.i and elsewhere, btteause, lorsootli, tlii^ servitude is not in the United States, ;ind ncitlier cotton nor sugar will be aflbcled by it. These, and the Btlgian war, asid the Spanish war, and the Greek war, ;uc events of hut yesterday, yet soundins; in our eai-s, and dwelling upon our tongues." And I niighf go on witli these proofs and illustrations of the pugnacious dis- po-ition of the world, till your patience and niine were ex- hausted. Wliy, sir, if England had a temple of Janus, as Rome had of old, it would be iis seldom shut, as was tliat of her impe- rial prototype. The first fifteen years of this very century were nearly all passed in the greatest war known perhaps in the annals of mankind; and there are Senators in this body, and I among the number, who were born at the close of one war widi England, and have lived through another, and who are perhaps destined to witness a third. And yet zealous but ill-judging men would try to induce us to east by our armor, and lay open our country, because, forsooth, the age is too enligluened to tolerate war. I am afraid we are not as good as these peace men, at all sacrifices, persuade them- selres and attempt to persuade others. But, sir, to advert to another topic. I perceive — and I am happy to find it so — that there has been a nearer union of sentiment on one branch of this subject between the honor- able Senator from Maryland and myself than I had supposed , All I regret is, that he had not avowed his opinion earlier in the session ; for I should have felt myself greatly encouraged in my course by the identity of our views respecting the dan- ger of the countrj'. The honorable gentleman says : " We all have felt at onetime, at least — I trust that tliat time has passed — the nation was in imminent danger of war." "From ' the moment the President of the United States deemed it ' right and becoming, in the very outset of his official caieer, ' to announce to the world, that the title of the United States ' to the northwest territory «'as clear and indisputable, down ' tu the period of his Message in December, when he reit- ' erated the assertion, I could not see how it was possible ' war was to be averted." " I could not but listen with dis- 'may and alarm at what fell from the distitiguished Senator 'from Michigan at an early period of this session." Now, sir, I have not the slightest nash to misinterpret the sentiments of tlie Senator from Maryland ; but I frankly con- fess I do not understand how, \vdth "the opinion he expresses, tliat war was unavoidable, any remarks of mine could have been thus characterized. I am well aware, indeed, that they came hke a bomb-shell into a powder magazine. But why, I have yet to learn. Like the honorable Senator from Maryland, the moment I read the President's Message, I saw, to my own conviction at least, that our relations with England were in a critical situation ; and that a regard to our duty, as representatives and sentinels of the people, re- quired us to take measures of precaution, proportioned to the danger, whatever that might be. The President, with a due regard to his own responsibility, as well as to the just expectations of his countrymen, sp"read before us, not only his own views and recommendations, but the whole diplo- matic correspondence, which had passed between the two Governments, on the subject of Oregon. Well, we all saw there vi'as a dead halt in the march of the negotiations. The President told us, in effect, they were closed. I am not, sir, very tenacious as to the word. I do not attach that import- ance, in fact, to the condition itself, which the Senator from North Carolina appears to do. I am willing to call it closed, or terminated, or suspended, or, in the Executive phrase, " dropped." All I wish to show is, tliat nothing was going on. Why the honorable Senator from North Carolina dwelt with such earnestness upon this point, I do not comprehend, unless, indeed, he supposed, that if the negotiations were closed, they were closed forever, beyond the reach of tlie parties. If such were his views, I do not partake them. I trust no question of mere etiquette will keep the paities sep- arated, if other circumstances should indicate they might be brought together. Such a course of action, or rather of in- action, would deserve the reprobation of the whole world. But however this may be, tbe President said, that all at- tempts at compromise had failed. These are his words. He invited us to sive the notice, for the termination of the joint occupation of the country. He said it was all ours, and that our title to it u-a^ maintained by irrcfragalle facts and ars^i- ments ; and he said, also, that at the "end of the year, the temporary measui-es, which a regard to treaty stipulations allowed us only to adopt at this time, must be abandoned, and our jurisdiction over the wholp country established and maintained. Such were, in effect, the views submitted to us by the Chief Magistrate of the nation, in the dischaige of a solemn duty, committed to him by tiie Constitution. One would think there were elements enough of trouble ' to engage the attention of the National Legislature, and to command its immediate action. If the ship of State were' to be steered by the chart thus prepared by the pilot, either Great Britain must turn from her course, or we nmst meet her. There was no other alternative. She must gainsay much she had said. She must relinquish much she had claimed. She must concede much she had denied. She must do what a proud nation does with reluctance — retrace her steps in the face of the world, and lower herself in her own estimation. I did not say she would not do all this. I do not say so now. But looking to her history, to her position, and to the motives of human conduct— as these operate upon comnmnities, as well as upon individuals — I had great diffi- culty in believing that she would do it, and I said so. And there was yet another element of uncertainty, combined with all these causes of embarrassment, and that was the doubt, if she came to the par.illel of 49°, whether she would find our Government r.-^ady to come back to the same line. I know nothing of the intentions of either Government upon that subject. I cannot speak authoritatively, and tlieretbre I doriot undertake to speak at all. I know as little as any one in tliis room, be he actor or spectator in the scene that is passing. WTiether the offer would be accepted, if re- peated, or whether it would be repeated, if dsmati4ed. All I know is, that as tlie basis of an amicable adjustlhent, tliat time, which, while it mends some things mars others, is every day increasing the diffieultj' of its establishment; andJ that, as a nie;ms of' terminating this controversy, I believe the question is rapidly passing from the control of tlie Gov- ernment to the control of public opinion. Under these circumstances, I introduced resolutions of in-i quiryinto the necessity of adopting measures forthe defence of the country, and, on the loth of December, I advocatcdl their adoption and explained my views, of which Ihave now troubled tlie Senate with a brief summary, and to which the honorable Senator says he listened witli "dismay and! alarm." " Dismay and alarm" at propositions for defence, when the gentleman himself says that "tlie nation was iiii imminent danger" ! ^A^lcn " he could not see how it was, possible war was to be avoided"! For it will be observed, , tliey were subsequent circumstances, subsequent by some- weeks, which removed tliis impression of the danger of wan made by the President's Inaugural Address, and byhisMes-- sage at the commencement of the session. They were the speeches of the Senators from Missouri and New York, and i especially the speech recently delivered by the Senator fromn North Carolina. For myself I did not hear one word fall I from the Senators from Missouri and New York, so far as 1 1 recollect, in which I did not fully concur. The former, be- sides the authority which long experience, high talents, and I great services to his country and his part}-, give to all he says. . here and elsewhere, understands this whole subject bettei i perhaps than any man in the nation. And we all have bornci our tribute of gratification to the able and statesmanlike ex-i position of the matter given by the Senator from New York.v| I did not understand either of these Senators, as alluding to the ulterior course of tlie President, or seeking to express; any opinion respecting the result of this controversy. Aiioi I will ask the Senator from Maryland whetlier, upon a grave ' question like this, it is not safer and wiser to deduce tht- views of the President from two public and solemn docu-i ments, spreading before his country his opinions and fore shadowing his course, rather than from the construetior: given them by others, and resting upon what is called acts o ' omission and of commission. It is not a little curious, but it is nevertheless true, tha during the discussions brought out by my resolutions,' gen tlemen on the other side of the Senate took the opportunity of expressing their entire concurrence in the views ami' course of the President, and avowed their gialification a i the Executive statements and recommendations. ThouglJ a condensed narrative of the negotiations accompanied thdi Message and formed the groundwork of the suggestions subi mitted to us, and though the correspondence was spread oun in full before us. AVhat is now thought upon this subject on the other side of the chamber, it needs not that I should | ' tell. The views there expressed are as unequivocal as thej are condemnatory. " We all have felt," says the Senatoi from Maryland, "that war was imminent," and still mor< emphatically, " I could not see how it was possible war wa: to be averted." But I may be permitted to ask the honorable Senator, i war, in his opinion, was thus imminent, and not to b( averted, how happened it that my remarks " filled him wjtf alarm and dismay.'" I thought there was danger of war and so it appears did he. And his estimate of the dange was higher than mine ; for I thought that among other mean; of avoiding it, instant and adequate preparations might ex hibit such powers of offence and defence, and such a spin 13 n tiic country, that England might pause before she would Irive us to the last alternative of injured nations. And herefore was I so anxious for an immediate and decisive nanifestation upon tliis subject. But we have all siUfered ', ;lie=e resolutions to sleep, as I remarked the ot)ier day, if ! lot the sleep of death, a slumber almost as quiet; and ,i tjhough they were a little startled by the President's Mes- ^j-jfeage, still, "before their full resuscitation into life, it may be ii lece'ssMV, that thai same solemn warning should penetrate ■;, :hese maVble Halls, which has said to other improvident na- , lions, awake! the enemy is upon you. If, then, both the . Senator and myself were apprehensive of war, and he ,,'j thought it could not be averted, the " dismay and alarm" ,jj which my remarks occasioned, did not result from any dif- 3 Ference of views upon that subject. And, as these remarks " I'aad but two objects — one to show the danger v.^e were in, and the other to guard against it — it would seem to be the atter at which the honorable Senator took exception: and I ,a is certainly a cause of mortification, that I managed my subject so awkwardly, as to convert my prepositions for de- fence into a matter for "alarm and dismay." Since then, however, sir, another note of warning has reached us from the eiisteni hemisphere, and we not only Snow that England is arming, but the so\'ereign herself has innounced the fact in the most imposing manner, and has called upon Parhament to extend these armaments still fur- ;hGr. And we now exliibit to the world the extraordinary spectacle of a nation in a state of perfect tranquillity — I might rather say of apathy, almost — ^^'itllout an army, without a militia — for oiu: militia is unfortunately nearly disorganized —with untinished and unfmnished defences, with an inade- quate supply of the materiel of war, «ith a navy calculated only for a state of peace, with three thousand six hundred miles of seacoast on the Atlantic, and one thou^and three hundred miles on the Pacific, and four thousand one hun- dred miles of interior frontier from Eastport to flie line where 54° 40' strikes the ocean, and two thousand four hrmdred miles of interior frontier from the southwestem corner of Oregon to the Rio del Norte — making a boundary of eleven thousand four hundred miles, agreeably to the calculation I have procured from the librarian, and penetrable in all directions. While, at the same time, we are involvjd in a great controversy with the most formidable nation — formidable in the means ;of injuring us — upon the face of the globe, which is buck- ling on its armor, and telling the world, througU its sovereign, that it will mai}itain its interests and its honor — which, be- ing translated into plain American, means tliat it will hold on to its claims. Mr. President, a great deal has been said, botli here and elsewhere, respecting the probability of war— whether it will result from the present condition of the two nations. Some gentlemen tliink this is a legitimate subject of inquiry, arising out of the principal question — that of the notice — directly before us; While others think we should decide tlie question on its own merits, leaving out of view the conse- quences, to which it may lead. Certainly, a question of ter- ritorial right should be judged and determined nakedly, and unembarrassed by other considerations. We owe that to our own honor. Still, it becomes prudent men, especially prudent statesmen, wiien taking an unportant step, to look to its results. Neither national nor individual acts are in- sulated — one measure leads to another. It seems to me it is not only our right, but our duty, as the Representatives of the States, to inquire where this raea.sure will conduct us. If to a stable peace, so much the better. If to war, let us eontemiilate its prospects and its dangers, and let us prepare for its consequences. But, at any rate, let us comnmne togetlipr, and not blindly ru?h into the future, rather driven by our instuicts, than guided by our reason. Our first object is to preserve our rights; our next to do that peacefully. While we all hope that war will be avert- ed, that hope will never be strengthened by underrating the capacity of eitlier nation to defend itself, or to injure its op- ponent. For my own part, I see no want of patriotism in stating plainly and frankly the means of annoyance that England possesses; and I think the course of my honorable friend from Delaware upon that subject was equally patriotic and judicious. Tliereissaidto be a bird in the desert, which hides its head in the sand, and then thinks it is safe from danger, because it cannot see it. Let us not imitate this folly-. Let us look directly at what we must encounter, if we are forced to war, and then let us behave like reason- able men, and make reasonable preparation to meet it. I see it said in a late London Herald, that we cannot carry on war, because we cannot procure the means to meet tlie necessary expenditures. The same assertion has been made in some of our own journals, and even by liigher authority. The Senator from South Carolina has referred in this con- nexion to a venerable man, for whom, and for whose pat- riotic* services, I have great and sincere respect, who has awakened from a pohtical slumber of almost a quarter of a ceritury, and presents himself to his countrjTuen with elab- orate statistical tables, showing the peciniiary cost of war, and tlie burdens it bring^'With it. All this is unnecessary. It is taught in the very horn-book of national expenditures. Ours is not a question of the cost of war, but of its necessity. That same eminent man, the survivor of the cabinets of Mr. Jeiierson and of Mr. Madison, was understood, in 1812, to entertain a sunilar repugnance againt committing the desti- nies of liis country to war, which he now exhibits, and to foreshadow similar difficulties. I do not know if the fact be so. I can repeat only the rumors of that day. It was then asserted and believed, that some report or document from the Secretary of the Treasury was intended to dampen the national ardor, by an imposing array of the contributions it would be necessary to levy upon the country, in the event of war, and thus to prevent its occurrence. But the effort, if made, was useless then, and it will be useless now. The war went on, because it could not be avoided without a sac- rifice of the national rights and honor, and it came to a glo- rious conclusion. It pushed us forward in all the elements of advancement. And as we did then so shall we do now. If a war is forced upon us, we shall meet it mth its dangers and its responsibilities. No array of figures vi'ill stop tlie people in their patriotic course. You might as well attempt to stop the surges of the ocean beating upon the seacoast by marks in the sand, which the first wave sweeps away, and then passes on. As to this notion, that a war cannot be maintained without cash enough ui tlie possession of the Government to carry it on, or the means of procuring it at any time by loans, the two successful experiments we have made have demonstrated its fallacy. I do not stop to point out the peculiarities in our condition which prevent our national exertions from being paralyzed by deficient resources. They are to be found in tlie spirit and patriotism of our people ; in the common in- terest they feel in a Government, established by them, and responsible to them ; in the system of private credit, which almost makes part of our institutions, and which often sep- arates by mde inten-als the purchase and the payment; in the abundance and cheapness of the necessaries of life, and in the military ardor which stimulates our young men and sends them to the standard of their country. iSfo modern Croesus, be he a king of financiers, or a financier of kings, holds in his hands the action of this Government. But even in Bi^Sope, a decisive experiment lias shown, that the exer- tions of a nation are not to be crippled by a crippled treasury. One of the great errors of Mr. Pitt arose from his belief, that as the French resources and credit were deranged and almost destroyed, therefore France was incapable of the necessary efforts to defend herself against the formidable coalition, at the head of which England placed herself, and to maintain which she poured out her blood as freely as her treasure. But the result proved the folly and the fallacy of all this, not- withstanding the depreciation of the French paper, and the difficulties consequent uponit. What was the progress and the result of this effort to prevent a people from changing and reorganizing their Government, is written upon the pages of a quarter of a century of war, and still more pUiinly upon the oppressed taxation of England; which now weighs upon her present condition like an incubus, and overshad- ows her future with dark clouds of adversity. I now propose to submit some observations upon the re- marks presented to the Senate a few days since, by the dis- tinguished Senator from South Carolina. The originality of Uis views, and the force of the illustrations, ^vitll which they were supported, give them gieat consideration; and as it seems to me, that in some important particulars, their tendency is erroneous, I desire to communicate the impression they made upon me. While I shall do this, with the freedom, which a sincere search after truth justifies, I shall do it with tlie respect that the eminent services and high character of tlie Senator jus- tify, and that an uninterrupted friendship of thirty years, which has been to me a source of great gratification, natu- rally inspires. The Senator states, that when this proposition for notice to terminate the joint occupancy of Oregon was first sub- mitted for consideration, he was opposed to it. But that now he is hi favor of it in some modified form ; the form, I believe, it assumes in the resolution of the Senator from Georgia. That his motives of action were the same in both cases — a desire to preserve the peace of the two countries ; that in the former part of • •..; ^f--;- '-- •''"""■'it "ip notice wouM lead to war, and the ? it would lead to pea ■'.:C- Certainlv, Mr. Pr ■ • 14 ttiftn to occupy. A chtinge of action on questions of expe- diency, wlu-rc (ircmnstaiicps have changed, is a dictate of true wisdom. H", who b,):isL-i lie has never changed, boasts, in fact, th.at the Icisons of experience have been lost upon him; and that he grows older without growing wiser. But before a change takes place in our approbation or condemna- tion of a great question of luitional policy, the reasons which dictate it should be carefully considered, and clearly estab- lished. Has this been done by the Senator from South Carolina.' I think not. IIj assumes the very fact, upon which his whole argument rests. He assumes that a great change has taken place botli in this country and in E^igland, in public opinion upon this subject, which will necessarily lead to a comproasise, and thus to im amicable adju^tuient of this se- riou; and long-pending controversy. Of the fact its?lf, tluis alleged, the Senator furnishes no proof. Indeed, he attempts to furnish none. He merely says : " There is one point, in which we nmst all be agreed, ' ttiat a great change has taken place since the commence- • uient of this di:CUssion in relation to notice, in its bearings < upon the que-tion of peace or war." " Public opinion has < had time to develop itself, not only on tliis, but on the other ' side of the Atlantic, and that opinion has pronounced most 'au.libly and clearly in favor of compromise."' " As things now stand, I no longer regard it as a question ' whether the controversy shall be pacifically arranged or not, * nor even in what manner it shall be arranged. I regard ttie ' arrangement now simply a question of time," &c. Mr. President, I cannot partake this confidence. The signs of tlie times are anytliing but auspicious to me. It will be perceived, that the annuueiution thus certainly made of the peaceful termination of this matter, rests upon the change in public opinion and upon the conviction, that both Gjvernments are ready to comprosuise, and both prepared to come to the same line ; so much so, indeed, that tlie Sen- ator adds, " he trusts that iu concluding it there will be no unuf csssary delay." In all this, sir, I am under the impression, there is a great misnppreiiension. As to the wdvcrsidity of the propatition, t/iiit aU are agreed its tj this change. I know there is an error. For myself, my conviction is as strong as human conwction can be, not only that tiie change thus indicated has not taken place, but that a great change lias been going on in a contraiy direction. 1 believe that the opposition to a com- promise upon tlje parallel of 49° has increased, is increasing, and will go on to increase ; and that both here and^ Bug gland, public opinion is less and less confident in an amica- ble settlement of this rti-put''. I shall notp'irsue this matter into its details. I will merely remark, that the eridences of public opinion, which reach us, whether bonie here by let- ters, by newspapers, by the declarations of conventions, or by the resolutions of legislative bodies, is decisive and indis- putable. And, in proof of this, look at the passage of the resolutions in the House of Representatives by a majority almost unknown in a free country upon a great question like tliis, and involving such momentous consequences ; and this, too, when the Senator says, he thought their passage v\'0uld lead to war. And what say the advices from England .' They speak a language as positive, as it is minatory. What says the '• Standard," of March 3, the great Tory organ .' I will tell you : " But will the American Congress confirm the insolent and unwarrantable tone adopted by this bragga- docio V &c. And the person thus denominated by these models of all that is decorous, so often recommended to us for our study, is the President of this great Republic. " And dreadful as is the alternative, it will be with the utmost dif- ficulty that any British Minister can escape from it witli honor." The last London Times that I have seen says : " q'he joint navigation of the Columbia, the right of harbors ' on the sea-coast, and the right of traltle for the Hudson Bay « Company on one buik of the river, are, we think, demands ' neither unjust nor extrav;igant." The London Gazett. ,of March 3, saj'S : " The news frjm the United Stnta ju^HJics ' the fears ice have repeatedly expressed of the determined spirit ' of hostility iduch pervades a poivcrful party m the United * States." "The London Snn, a neutral paper, says: "The < news from this country has produced a strong feeling of in- ' (lignation among our commercial circles ; and those who 'have all along opposed the expediency of war, on account < of mercantile connexions, now openly claim a vindication 'oftlie honor of the comitryatthe handsof the Executive." <' The feeling everywhere is, that England, having shown as < much forbearance as is compatible with her station in the < scale of nations, is now called upon to treat the proceedings 'of the American legislators with the contempt they de- ' serve." The Liverpool Courier of March 4, says : " The * consequences to which it may lead (the refusal to arbitrate) ' may be most calamitous. But the Americans will only ' have themselves to blame, if War ensues; for England hai ' done all in her power to bring matters to a salislUctory and ' peaceful issue." Such are the evidences of pulilic opinion iu England, which tlie last packet brought us ; and of tli8 favorable cliaage there, which renders a compromise certain, and a question only of time. The honorable Senator has referred, in this connexion, to| the declaration of Sir Robert Peel, made some time sine the British House of Commons, that he regretted tlieir Min- iter had not transmitted to his Government the proposition of a compromise upon the parallel of 4S° ; that if not satis- fiictory, it might have been made the basis of a mnditicd ofJ'cr. I am not inclined to draw as favoral le a conclusion, how- ever, as the honorable Senator, from this incidental remark, made, not to us, but in tlie courseof a Parliamentary discus- sion. In fact, it is so cantiou-ly expressed, as to lead to no useful deduction respecting his real views. It is a mere bar ren remark. Had the Premier intended it should produce any practical consequences, he would have communicated to our Government the views of the British Cabinet, and would have accepted tlia otfor, or returned it with the pro- posed modification. But we hear nothing of this disappro- bation — no, not disapprobation, but of soft regretat tiieijasty dxisiou of the British Minister here — till six months after it took place, ai.d then we leain it in the public debates, and that is the last of it. [t is to me a curious chapter in the his- tory of British diplomacy, tliat a Minister would venture to take tlie grave respoiieihility of rejecting such a proposition, without refening it to his Gnvernment, and he is not even censured for it. If he had b?en recalled, or a successor sent out, with instructions to accept the propositions made by our Government for a compromise, we should then have had a proof of sincerity better than a barren declaration, and which might have led to a better state of feeling. The Senator from South Carolina has entered at some length into a def nee of his views respecting the acquisition of Oregon, by what is called the process of masterly inactiv- ity. And if he has not made converts to his opinion, he has gained many admirers of his talents by his masterly vindi- cation of it. Certainly, sir, it is often the part of true wisdom in tliia world to stand still — to wait for tiirie and circumstances. There is a great deal of wisdom in old proverbs, and one of tUem says, '-Let well enough alone.-' Time has wrought many wonders for our country, and is destined to vs^ork many more. The practical difiiculty is, to determine when inaction should cea--e and action commence, and how the operations of time can be best aided by enterprise and industry. The honora- ble Sjnator says, that circumstances have got ahead of liis system, and that he adverts to the subject, not to apply it, hut to defend it. It seems to me, sir, it never could have pro- duced the results tlie Senatoranticipated, and produced them peacefully. Here was an open question, which, foralmost forty years, had occupied the attention of the two countries, which had been kept at arm's length by an improvident arrangement, instead of being grappled witli and adjusted, as it could have been, and should have been, long ago, and which had at length increased to a fearful magnitude; and, what is still more, had begun to enlist passions, and feelings, and inter- ests, that threatened to take tlie controversy from tlie pen, and to commit it to the sword. The claims of two great countries to a distant territory were unsettled, and in a condition unprecedented in tlie history of national inter- course. Each with a right to occupy the whole of the ter- ritory, but each liable to have tliis right defeated by the jirevious action of the other party — each holding a remote possession, b.ginninj; to iill up by emigration witli tlicir re- spective citizens and subiects,liardy, enterprising, and some- what pugnacious, intermingled upon the same soil, seiz- ing it as they could, and holding it as they might, without any of tho^e improvements, which require for their creation and support the joint and legal action of a community, and wlio'ly irresponsible for their acts tnwards one anotlier. ex- cept througli the medium of tribunals belonging to the party claiming allegiance over the aggressor, and posses.ring no sympathy with the complainant. Tlie end of all tliis may be foreseen without the gift of secord sight. Collisions must be inevitable. The only wonder is, they have not already occurred. ^And the first gun that is tired upon the Columbia will send its echoes to the Potomac and the Thames. And think you.that the matter will be coolly examined, dispas- sionately discussed, and amicably arranged.' No, sir; each nation will believe its own stor)', and botli will be ready to arm, and assert its honor, and defend its citizens. All his- tory is full of these incidents; and tlie peace of two great nations is now held by the slightest tenure, dependent upon passions and interests to be called into fierce action upon the shores that look out upon China and Japan. We are 15 ;o!d that time is the great physician, who miglit haVe cured I'ais disordered state of our political afl'atrs. I am a firm lelieverin the silent andcea-reless operations of that mighty „ent. But this case was beyond its power. If, indeed, time ifould stand still for one of the parties, and move only for he other— stand still for England, and move on for us— our tate of progress would soon pour through the passes of the locky Mountains a host of emigrants who would spread iver all the hills and valleys from the summit of that great larrier to that other barrier, the ocean itself, which says to he advancing settlements, Come no farther. But neither ime nor England would stand still. Her Government is sa- acious, alive to her interests, and ready to maintain them. She knows the value of the country as well as we do, and ippreciatesit perhaps higher. No one can read the speeches n the House of Commons on the 4th of April last, without eing sensible, that tlie subject, in all its extent, has occu- ied the attention of the British Government, and that the :ountry itself will occupy its fostering care. Thmk you that hat Government would have continued to see band after land of our citizens leaving our frontier settlements, lost to mman observation almost for months while passing through he desert with its toils, its privations, and its dangers, and "nally emerging into the land of pronnse, to seize it, and to old it, and would have looked cahnly on, receding as we (Ivanced, retreadng to the hill as we desceiided into the val- ey, and finally yielding us quiet possession of this long- lisputed territoiy.? He, who does not believe all this, must lelieve that time would not have peacefully adjusted this iontroversy for us. But, besides, this process of adjustment loes not assuine that our right to exclude the British from he country will be increased by settlement. It may add trength to our power, but none to our title. It does not )resuppose that war is to be averted, but only postponed. The rights of England, at the end of any given period, will e precisely what they now are; and, unless she should vol- mtarily relinquish them, a conflict would be inevitable. It ;eenis to me very clear, that if slie would ever be disposed o abandon the country, she would do it now, when the dis- )arity offeree there is not such as to cast the reproach of imidity upon her counsels, and when the number of her iubjects is not such as to render diliicult a satisfkctory ar- angement for tliem. Mr. President, the Senator from South Carolina has held p to our view a sombre picture of the calamities, which a var with England would bring upon the United States — too ombre, sir, if I am not utterly ignorant of tlie history and ;ondition of my country, and of tlie energj' and spirit of my 'ountrymen. I shall not examine it feature by feature ; but rere are certain portions I desire to present to the Senate. What probable circumstances could require this country o keep up a military and naval force of two hundred thou- and men for ten years — the land portion of it divided into ?even great armies — I confess my utter inability to conjec- ure. Wliy the honorable Senator fixes upon that period for he duration of the war, I know not. It is so wholly conjec- ural as to elude the apphcation of any principle to it. Long lefore its expiration, if we are not utterly unworthy of om- lame and our birthright, we should sweep the British Power Vom the continent of North America, and the remainder of he time must be occupied by predatory incursions upon the >oast and by hostilities upon the ocean. The dangers or dis- Sisters, which this state of things brings with it, would require but a small portion of the force considered necessary by the anator. As to Mexico, I tiu=t we shall bear much from ler. We owe that to our own stiength and to her weak- less ; to our own position, not less than to the situation of ler Government and to the quad civil war, which seems to )e the curse of her condition. But should we be driven to )ut forth our strength, peace would ensue, and speedily; but t would be a peace dictated in her capital, and placing her lolitical destiny at our disposition. And besides, during the progress of such a war, to which he honorable gentleman aliudes, who can tell the sphere of ts operations, and what nations would become parties to it.? low soon would the great maritime questions of our day )resent themselves for solution ? How long would it be be- bre England would revive and enforce those belligerent pre- ensions, which drove us to war when we were neutral, and wliich would drive other nations to war occupying the same loiition.? How long before the violation of her flag would irouse the public feeling of France, and compel her Govern- nent to vindicate its honor? And who can tell what war of Principles and opinions would come to add its excitement ind passions to the usual struggles of contending nations .' riie world is, indeed, in comparative repose ; but there are lauses in operation which, if quickened into action by pe- culiar circumstances, might shake the institutions of Europe (their very foundations. I consider 'a war between Eng- land and the United States for ten years, of for half of that time, utterly impossible, without bringing into cohision the grsat questions of our daj- — the right to govern and the duty to submit — and into fierce action the interests and passions, which such a struggle would excite— a struggle that must come, but which such a war would accelerate. In order, that I may remove even tlie possibility of misin- terpreting the sentiments of the Senator, I will read an e.v- tract or two from his speech. After alluding to the material horrors of war, and doing justice to the courage of his coun- trymen, he adds, that a war between us and Great Britain, such as has been described, " in which every nerve and ' muscle would be strained to the utmost, and every dollar ' put in requisition Which could be commanded, could not ' faU, under present circumstances, to work most disastrous, ' and I fear incurable changes in the social condition of our ' people, and in their political institutions." He then ad- verts to the consequences of such a wa.-, drawing after it a Mexican war and an Indian war. He tliinks we should need two fleets, six or seven armies, one hundred million of dollars annually, and a proportionate system of taxation. He then continues, after shomiig the destruction of the State governments, and the consolidation of all power in the central authority, and that our very success would en- gander a spirit inconsistent with the genius of our Govern- ment: "It would then be a straight and downward road, 'which lea..ls to where so many free States have terminated ' their career— a military de. potism. In the mean time we ' should have to provide for three or four successful gene- ' rals, who would soon be competing for the Presidency, and 'before the generation, which would have waged the war ' would have passed away, they might possibly witness a ' contest between hostUe generals for that supreme office— ' a contest between him v/ho might conquer Mexico and him ' v/ho might conquer Canada, terminated by the sv/ord." But permit me to ask the Senator from South Carolina, if all this were so, if his anticipations were certtiin, instead of being purely gratuitous, ought the assurance of such events to come from him, from such a high authority, in so high a place.' In the Senate of the United States, and from "one who has filled some of the mo;t important positions in our Government ; wliose services and talents, and character gave him great consideration wit'i his countrymsn ; who possesses a European fame ; and whose opinions are quoted at this n London and Paris as indications of our policy, !e final result of this controvarsy.? Is it well thus f. to the world our incapacity to defend ourselves .' in fact the result. A Government dissolved, or iiged to a despotism, a cou.atry ruined, and eventu- ... jagments a prey to ambitious "generals, as the em- pire of Alexander was partitioned among his lieutenants ! War, then, becomes not a measure of safety, but a sisnal of destruction to the American p-ople. We are powerless to defend ourselves. If we are struck upon one cheek, v/e must turn the other ; not in a spirit of Christian charity, but in the despair of helplessness. We are bound together by a fair-weather Government, incapable of riding out the storms of foreign aggression. Submission must be our refuge, for beyond submission is destruction. We shall exhibit the extraordinary spectacle of a great people, great in nil the ele- ments of power and pro.^peri ty, saying to the world, in effect, we cannot contend with England. We are at her mercy, for even success would ruin us. Now, sir, this is not so. Tliere is not one man within the sound of my voice whose heart does not tell him, suJi hiis iiot been your pi-ist — -uchvill not he your future. Tiie hon- orable Senator, in looking at the real calamities of war, which I seek neither to conceal nor to deny, has suffrred himself to overrate tliem. They have struck him more for- cibly than they should do. The experiment of two wars with Enghuid, into which we entered, and from which we issued gloriously, puts the stamp of error upon tliese sad forebouhigs. How they pushed us forward, in character and position among tlie nations of the earth, I need not tell; nnr need I say, that the march of this countiy in all ihat consti- tutes the power and happiness of a p-?oplp, is a practical proof, that those conflicts left no wounds upon our institu- tions, and but temporory checks upon our prosperitv. The honorable Senator has appealed to his past history in proon that in presenting these views he acted in no unmanly fear for himself, and that if war comes, he would be amon" the last to flinch. No, Mr. President, no one in this nation doubts that his course would be firm and patriotic, should war be farced upon us. But he will permit me also to appeal ; to appeal from the Senaj^iV?^ 1846 to tlie Representative of 1812. He is the Ultimusi^bi'inorum — thelaitof the Romans: the sole survivor among have passed from the The last of the actors, tion of statesmen who ^^^ir countrr. gave fie 16 wo ill our second dixlaraiion of Iii(lopcndi:n.''P, '■cnrooly ir- feiior in it* Ciuiscs ;ind consiHiUJiit-es to tlie first. He came lirrf .voiins,', unknown to his country. He left these liulls «ith a niatuiilyofl'.iin!', whicli rarely falls to tiie lot of any statesman. I was then uptm the frimlit-r, and well do 1 re- monibir with wiiatstrainiiiffeyes and beating hearts vveturn- ed towards the Capitol, to know if the honor and interests of our country would he asserted and maintainc d. Tiiere wen; then two men here, upon whom, more th:in upon any others, pL'rhap.s more than upon aJl others, devolved tlie task of atl- vocatin!; the war, and of carrying lhroui;h the measures of the Administration. And nobly did tiieyperr'onn their duty. Tliey Were the honorable Senator from South Carolina, and a re- tired stiitrsman. Mr. Clay, from wiiom, though it haa been my fortune to differ in t'le i)arty contests tliat diviile us, yet it has always been my pride to do justice tolas emin-nt qual- ities, and to his bijjh services to his coiintrv, and e pjcially to his services during our la^t eoiit;^^t with England. Tliey were the leaders of tijat great legi-Ialive war, who, like the Homeric heroes, threw themselves into the middle of the fight, and fought the batrles of their pnrtv and of their coun- try, with equMl tilents, firmness, and success. As to the evils of war, he of u ' is blind to all historical e.\psrience, who does not see them, and unfaithful to his position, who does not acknowledge them. Tiiere is no such representative of the States here. We all acknowledge the evils of war, both moral and material. We (lilfer as to their degree, aiul as to the power of this country to endure and to inflict them. While the condition of England pre- sents great means of annoyance, it presents also palpable elements of weakness. I am not her pun^gvrist. I shall never be accused of that. But if I see the defects of her national charaetsr, I can see also her redeeming virtues. I am sensibly ahve to the acts of injustice she has done us. The feeling is deposited at my heart's core. But I do not shut my eyes, either to her power or to the virtues she actu- ally possesses. I need not tell what she has done to attract the admiration of the world ; for her deeds of vvar and peace are written upon many a bright page of human story. She has reached a commanding eminence among the powers of the earth — a giddy eminence ; and I believe she will find it an unstable one. I do not, however, estimate her present position as liigh as many do, and I consider it as misafe as almost any one can. Tlie elemei:ts of her weakness he upon the very surface of lier affairs, open to the most care- less observer. But she has great military and-najiaJ estab- lislmients, and she is augmenting and extendiiii am not going to spread before the Senate the . her powers of aimoyance and defence. Ta" sufficiently done already. But I will e.xptess conviction, that these tabular statements give an^!F^gera- ted picture of her condition. Old vessels, old guns, mere hulks, invalids, the relics of half a century of war, are ar ranged in formidable lists of figures, and go to swell the general aggregate. Besides," she has peculiar drawbacks to the e.xotion of her power. The seeds of danger are sown in the most im portant province of her home empire, and may at any time start up into an abundant har\est of ruin and disaster. Tlie dragon-s teeth may become armed men. She has possessions rouud the world to retain, and in many of them a discontented population to restrain. H.r conunerce, the very foui;dalion ot her prosperity and great- ness, is scattered over ail the bays, and iidets, and suits, and seas of the world; and he,Avho knows the daring char- acter and enterprise of our people, knows that our public and private armed vessels would almost sweep it from ex- istence. But I shall not pursue this investigation further. While I believe she will go to warvvilh us, if she cannot es- cape from i t without wholly sacrificing her own honor, as she ■\iews the question, I recollect she ha^ done so twice before, with no credit to herself, but with iiup -rishable glory for us. A few words as to tlie condition of hi-r finances, and her means of carrying on a war. It is said to be thii last feather, that breaks the camel's back. That the time will come when the artificial and oppressive fiscal system of England must break down, and, like the strong man of Israel, involve hjr existing institutions in the fall, is as certain as any future political event can be. But that time has not yet come, and he must be a bolder or a wiser man than I am, to predict when it will come. She has the same means now to meet her war expenditures, which she has long had. The pow( r of drawing upon the future for tlie exigencies of the present, leaving the generations to come to pay the debt, or to ca>t it off, like a burden too hea\y to be borne. At this verj- mo- f. 1, " .'-:—",.,.,-,, opj„p„t vi:hj,.ii ..vill be almost a I re .. iMf- ■ ! ' t: (fearfid ov' - ,1' nichac- angps. As to the points of contrast between our condition and tha of England, they are before tlie world; and for the purposes of peace or war, we need not fear the most searching t'.\ain- ination. Ilippcn what may, \ve can neither be overrun nor con- (jurrid. England might as well att^'inpt to blow up the rod of Gibraltar with a sijuib, as to attempt to subdue us. I sup- pose an Eiiglislmian even never thinks of that, and I do nol know that I can exhibit in stronger terms its impossibility. 1 might easily spread bi-fore the Senate our capacity tc annoy a maritime adversary, and to sweep thd British flag from this part of the continent ; but I forbear. What wt hare twice done in the days of our compaiative weakn'ss, we can repeat and far exceed in these days of our strength. Wiiile, therefore, I do not eonceiU from myself, that a wai with E:)gland would temporarily check our progress, andi lead many evils in its train, still I have no fear of the i.-sne,- and have an abiding confidence, that we shall come out oi'itjt mt indeed unharmed, but vvitli all the elements of our pros-; perity safe, and with many a glorious achievement wriltei^: on the pages of our history. It pains me, sir, to hear allusions to the destruction of thiSi Government, and to the dissolution of this confederacy. Itl pains me, not because they inspire me with any fear, but be- cause we ought to have one unpronounceable word, a-! tho! Jews had of old, and that word is dissolution. \Vi- should reject tlie feeling from our hearts and it-s nani" ironi our' tongues. Tnis cry of ■' u o, wo, to Jerusalem," grates harslil^j upon my ears. Our Jerusaleui is neither beleaguered nor idi d.mger. It is yet the city u;)on a hill, glorious in what it is^- stih more glorious, by the blessing of God, in what it is toi be — a landmark, inviting the nations of the world, struggling! upon the stormy ocean of political oppression, to fohuiv ush to a haven of safety and of rational liberty. No English Titus;; will enter our temple of freedom through a breach in tho; battlements, to bear tlience the ark of our constitution audi, the book of our law, to take their st;itions in a triunipiiai; procession in the streets of a modern Rome, as trophies oil, conquest and proofs of submission. 1 Many a raven has croaked in my day, but the augury has failed, ami the Republic has marched onward. Manj- a crisis has presented itself to the imagination of our political Cassandras, but we have still Increased in pjlitical prosper-J ity as we have increased in years, and that, too, with an ac- celerated progress uuknovsii to the hiitory of the worldj;. We have a class of men, xviiose eyes are always upon the fiiturC;, overlooking the blessings around us, and" forever ap-' prehen; ive of some great political evil, which is to arre-t our course somewhere or other on tiiis side of the milienium.i To them, we are the iningi; of gold, and silver, and bra -is, andJ clay, contrariety in uniti", which tiie first rude blow of mis- fortune is to strike from its pedestal. For my o^vn part, I consider this the strongest governmenti on the face of the earth for good, and the weakest for evil. Strong, because supported by the public opinion of a people inferior to none of the communities of tlie earth in all tiiati coiiftitntes moral worth and usefiU knowledge, and wlio have breathed into their political system tiie breath of life; and who would destroy it, as they created it, if it were uii-i worthy of tlieni, or failed to fulfil their just expectations. Aiui weak for evil, from this x'ery consideration, whichjli would make its follies and its faults the signal of its over-r throw. It is the only Government in existence which uO' revolution can subvert. It may be changed, but it provides, fur its own change, when the public will requires. Plotsi and insurructions, wid the various struggi^s, by which an op^i pressed population manifest- its suft'eriiigs and seeks the i*- eovery of its rights, have no place here. We have noihing,' to fear but ourselves. ' And the Senator from South Carolina will permit me toi remark, that the apprehension he expresses, that a war iiiayy bring forward military eliieftajns, who would ultimately es-- taldish llieir own power upon the ruins of their eonntry'.^j freedom, is, in my opinion, if not the last of all the evil-, one),' of the very last, whicii this Republic has to fear. I wiil not! stop to point out the circumstances of our position, charac- - ter, and institutions, which render a military despoti.-mi impossible in this country. They are written in burning .j characters, not upon the wall, but upon the heart of every American; and they need no seer to expound them. Our safety is our union ; our only fear, disunion. In the moral government of the world, national oft'ences are punished by national calamities. It may be that we may fors.ike the God of our fathers, and seek after strange gods. If we do, and are struck with judicial blindness, we shall but add another to the long list of nations unworthy of the blessuigs acquired for them by preceding generations, and incapable of main-, t mingthem; — but none as signally so as wc.