Railroad Land Grants A Statement of their History, their Value and their Cost ßy W. wítíALDWIN, Land Commissioner, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company Remarks of Mr. Baldwin, which appeared in the Congressional Record Monday, January 12,1920, in answer to speech of Senator Chamberlain of Oregon delivered in the Ünited States Senate, on the subject of Railroad Land Grants Railroad Land Grants Their History, their Value and their Cost By W. W, Baldwin^ Land Commissioner, Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company, In the United States Senate on Friday, December 19, 1919, when the Cummins Bill, providing for return of the railroads to their owners, was under discussion, Hon. George E. Chamberlain of Oregon addressed the Senate in opposition to the bill. He denounced the claims of the owners of railroad properties regarding the losses under government con¬ trol, and the financial hardships that will ensue if they are,turned back without adequate safeguards, as cries of " Wolf when there is no Wolf." He spoke of a " wild era of extravagance " on the part of Congress in the matter of railroad land grants beginning in 1850, and repeated the statement that has been so often made that " empires were given to railroads." Senator Chamberlain had taken the Cummins Bill as an oppor¬ tunity for making a speech on Railroad Land Grants. His speech consisted mainly in a long extract from the " Encyclopedia of Ameri¬ can Government," and a table copied from the Report of the Com¬ missioner of the General Land Office which names the railroad com¬ panies that received land grants and the acreage granted to each. Upon the strength of these tables of acreage showing " empires " given to the roads in 1850 to 1871, Senator Chamberlain proceeded to denounce the companies for inefficiency of management," and other vices. This speech was called to the attention of Mr. W. W. Baldwin, for many years the Land Commissioner of the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad Company in charge of the sale and disposition of the lands granted to its predecessors in the States of Iowa, Missouri and Nebraska, who pre¬ pared a statement in reply to Senator Chamberlain. Through the courtesy of Senator King of Utah, Mr. Baldwin^s state¬ ment appeared in the Congressional Record on Monday, January 12, 1920, as follows : 1 Stalemeut of W. W. Baldwin on Land Grants to Railroads The remarks of Senator Chamberlain, of Oregon, in the Senate on Friday, December 19, 1919, contain so many mistakes of fact and so many half truths that they do not correctly represent the subject of land grants to railroads. The Senator himself is probably an uncon¬ scious victim of this misrepresentation, because his speech consists largely of quotations from a publication called Encyclopedia of Ameri¬ can Government." The most casual reading of this encyclopedia article will show that it was hastily and carelessly compiled and that, so far as the Govern¬ ment land grants are concerned, it entirely omits considération of the essential features. These features are the conditions and circumstances which led to the making of these land grants. What were the lands worth ; that is, what value did the Government part with, and what exactions did the Government make from the com¬ panies to whom the grants were made? The first important Government land grant in aid of the construction of railroads was in 1850, which was a grant of 2,500,000 acres in Illinois to aid in the construction of the Illinois Central Railrpad. The father of this measure was Stephen A. Douglas. Prior to 1850 there were no Government land grants, and a reading of the encyclopedia article quoted by Senator Chamberlain will show how insignificant were the money contributions prior to 1850. The fact is that in almost every case the States either owned the roads or were financially interested in them. The State of Michigan, for instance, built and owned the Michi¬ gan Central road from Detroit to Kalamazoo, which it operated for years at a loss and sold in 1846 for a small consideration. The land- grant policy of aid to railroads began in 1850 with the Illinois Central grant. If Senator Chamb.erlain had had an opportunity to read the debates in the Senate when these land grants were made, instead of inserting into the Record a mass of statements from an encyclopedia, he would have learned the conditions which existed in 1850, the motives and rea¬ sons which inspired the Senators of that day to vote these land grants, the values which the Government parted with, and the valuable financial reservations that were inserted as conditions of the grants, and the wisdom of the policy. The following àre extracts from speeches of Henry Clay, Thomas H. Benton, and Stephen A. Douglas in the Senate upon the subject of the Illinois land grant which throw an illuminating light upon this whole subject and are typical of all the speeches made on the subject: " Mr. Douglas. It is simply carrying out a principle which has been acted upon for 30 years, by which you cede each alternate section of land and double the price of the alternate sections not ceded, so that the same price is received for the whole. These lands have been in the market for 15 to 30 years; the average time is about 23 years; but they will not sell at the usual price of $1.25 per acre, because they are distant-from 2 any navigable stream or a market for produce. A railroad will make the lands salable at double the usual price, because the improvement made will make them valuable." Henry Clay. With respect to the State of Illinois — and I believe the same is true to a considerable extent with reference to Mississippi and Alabama, but I happen to know something personally of the interior of the State of Illinois — that portion of the State through which this road will run is a succession of prairies, the principal of which is de¬ nominated the * Grand Prairie.' I do not recollect its exact length ; it is, I believe, about 300 miles in length and but 100 in breadth. Now, this road will pass directly through that Grand Prairie lengthwise, and there is nobody who knows anything of that Grand Prairie who does not know that the land is utterly worthless for any present purpose -— not because it is not fertile but for want of wood and water and from the fact that it is inaccessible, wanting all facilities for reaching a ma^rket or for transporting timber, so that nobody will go there and settle while it is so destitute of all the advantages of society and the conveniences which arise from a social state. And now, by constructing this road through the prairie, through the center of the State of Illinois, you bring millions of acres of land immediately into the market, which will otherwise remain for years and years entirely unsalable." " Thomas H. Benton. From the consideration which I gave to that subject at that early day, it appeared to me that it was a beneficial dis¬ position for the United States to make of her refuse lands, to cede them to the States in which they lay. Lands which had been 20 or 25 years in the market at the minimum price, and had never found a purchaser up to that time, were classed as refuse, and it was deemed that the State, as a local authority,.might be able to make some disposition of them, which the General Government, without machinery of land offices, could not. The principle of the bill before the Senate is to take the refuse lands and appropriate them to a great object of internal improvement, which, although it has its locality in a particular State, produces advan¬ tages which we all know spread far and wide, for a good road can not be made anywhere without being beneficial to the whole United States. " But, Mr. President, with respect to the general proposition, this application rests upon a principle that young States are made desolate, in a great degree, by having lands in their midst that pay no taxes, undergo no cultivation, that are held at a price that nobody will pay, and which, in fact, in some parts of the country become jungles for the protection of wild beasts that prey upon the flocks and herds of the farmers." Why did not Senator Chamberlain examine the record of these de¬ bates? Why did he not inquire and state what the railroad companies were compelled to give back in return for what the Government granted to them? the illinois central grant. Because it was the first of these Government land grants and em¬ braced the most valuable lands covered by any grant of agricultural 3 land a correct knowledge of its value will throw light upon the whole subject. The first point to consider is what were these lands worth in 1850; what did the Government give to secure the construction of the Illinois Central road? What value did the Government part with? This all-important inquiry is ignored by Senator Chamberlain. The reason for its importance has been well put by Prof. Allen, of the Uni¬ versity of Chicago, as follows: " In determining the principle represented by the lands we must take account of the actual value of the lands in 1851. The values which the railroad company was to receive for the lands were not foreseen, and the State could justly claim compensation only for the values it sur¬ rendered. The lands had been offered by the General Government at $1.25 per acre without finding buyers, but as soon as the lands were granted to the railroad company the minimum price for Government as well as railroad lands became $2.50. More than this they were sure to bring, but only in case the private corporation bring in the road to develop them." What contribution, then, did the Government make toward the con¬ struction of the Illinois Central Railroad? Senator Douglas and all the other Senators state clearly what was the value of these lands. They had been in the open market for sale for 25 years with no purchasers. The promoters of the road, who took the risk of the venture, could have bought this land with no strings to it, no restrictions whatever, at $1.25 per acre. The grant was for 2,500,000 acres, so that the outside estimate of what the Government contributed was $3,100,000. The officials of the road could have bought the land for $3,100,000. But that is far more than the Government parted with, because not only did the building of the road enable the Government to immediately raise the price of all its adjoining lands from $1.25 to $2.50 per acre, as Senator Douglas explains, but it gave them a market for land which, without the railroad, was not salable at any price. Senator Chamberlain in his speech was inconsistent in his attitude toward the railroad companies in this matter of the value of their land grants. In one sentence he denounces them for not holding the lands for higher prices and in another denounces them for refusing to sell to settlers at low prices. He says, " If thé lands had been husbanded as carefully as they ought to have been, these grants ought to have built the roads," but in the very next sentence he bitterly denounces an Ore¬ gon railroad company for refusing to sell lands which he describes as " magnificent " and " covered with the finest timber in the world," at $2.50 per acre. In one breath he condemns them because they sold the lands at low prices and in the next breath condemns them for refusing to sell at low prices. The Illinois Central grant, as stated, had a possible market value of $3,100,000. That is an outside estimate of what value the Govern¬ ment parted with as a contribution toward the building of a railroad through a region which Henry Clay described as utterly worthless for 4 any present purpose " and Thomas H. Benton referred to as " jungles for the protection of wild beasts that prey upon the flocks and herds of the farmers." But what has the Government and the State of Illinois taken from the Illinois Central Co. and its owners in consideration of that land grant worth $3,100,000? It has already taken more than $21,000,000 in money and continues to take at the rate of hundreds of thousands of dollars every year. Senator Chamberlain protested, " I am not inimical to railroads ; I am friendly to them." Why, then, did he not acquaint the Senate with something of the other side of the story? Why did he not mention what the railroad companies have been forced to pay for these land grants? The acts of Congress granting the lands contained provisions which, in some cases, have compelled the companies to pay out in money more than the lands were worth, and the various States to which grants were made in trust for specified companies added other costly conditions. Two of the clauses that have proved most expensive to the railroads are as follows: In 1876 Congressman Holman, of Indiana, caused to be inserted in the appropriation bill the following clause : " Railroad companies whose railroads were constructed in whole or in part by a land grant made by Congress, on the condition that the mails should be transported over their roads at such price as Congress should by law direct, shall receive only 80 per cent of the compensation otherwise authorized by this section." Another provision that was in all the grants reads as follows : The railroad accepting such grant shall be free from toll or other charge upon the transportation of any property or troops of the United States." In addition to the mail pay deductions and the stipulation for trans¬ portation of property and troops of the United States, the State of Illi¬ nois inserted in the Illinois Central grant a clause under which that company must pay in perpetuity 7 per cent of the gross earnings of these charter lines into the State treasury in lieu of general taxes, which would be approximately 3 to 3^/^ per cent. Under the Federal valuation law proceedings these figures are obliged to be correctly stated, and the following is an official statement of these items as of the valuation date of June 30, 1915: Excess State tax on operating revenues $16,499,995.00 Mail pay deductions. 1,569,292.37 Freight deductions • 448,327.70 Deductions for handling troops, munitions of war, etc. . 2,630,643.24 $21,148,258.31 There is no doubting the significance of these figures. They are typical of the greater part of all the land grants. ^ The value of the Illinois Central grant was $3,100,000, and up to June 30, 1915, it had cost the company in cash $21,148,258, and these charges against its revenues are to continue forever. Any business man 5 would say that the Illinois Central would be in better shape financially today if, instead of accepting this land grant, it had borrowed the money and bought this $3,100,000 worth of land outright and owned it free from restrictions. Concerning one important feature of the situation Senator Chamber¬ lain in his speech makes ^ most unfortunate misstatement. He says that the grants provided that the roads would carry Government troops and property and munitions of war free. They did not contain any such provision. The clause referred to reserved to the Government the right to use the railroad the same as it could use any other highway, but did not require the companies to hire employees and buy coal and provide cars for the free use of the Government. As the Senator states, this question was submitted to the Supreme Court, which only allowed 50 per cent as the necessary operating charge. It is now over 80 per cent. Because of this Supreme Court decision Senator Chamberlain de¬ nounces the railroads. He says : " The railroad companies did not carry out their agreement, but repudiated the contract solemnly entered itito." They did carry out their agreement, and they did not repudiate their contract. The Senator from Oregon seems willing to ignore the decision of the Supreme Court in favor of the companies upon a question that was open to reasonable doubt, and to characterize the acceptance by the roads of that decision as a repudiation of contract, and yet claims to be fair-minded! He offers that decision of the Supreme Court, which was rendered 43 years ago, as a reason why he now opposes return of these properties to their owners. THE IOWA LAND GRANTS. Next in agricultural value to the Illinois lands were the grants to the State of Iowa in 1856 in trust for four named companies, namely, the Burlington & Missouri River (now Chicago, Burlington & Quincy), the Mississippi & Missouri (now Rock Island), the Cedar Rapids & Missouri River (now Chicago & North Western), and the Dubuque & Sioux City (now Illinois Central). The table which the Senator from Oregon inserts in his remarks is not a correct statement of the acreage received by the companies. In the case of the Burlington road his table states the acreage as 389,990 acres, when, in -fact, it was 358,424 acres, a discrepancy of nearly 10 per cent. The explanation is this : The grants were of the odd-numbered sections within 6 miles of the line of road as definitely located, with indemnity for shortages to be selected within 15 miles, but could only apply to the " public lands " within the designated limits. No land to which any title or even a " claim of right " in any other person existed at the date when the grant took effect was " public land, and therefore no such land passed to the railroad company. In the older Western States (Illinois, Iowa and Missouri) a large part of the lands had been " entered " or filed upon or settled under military bounty land warrants or under preemption certificates, so that, although by the general terms of the act the "grant" 6 to the Burlington road in Iowa was over 900,000 acres, it was never able to get over 358,400 acres. In many cases also where lands were actually patented to railroad companies they afterwards lost them through conflicts with prior Mexican grants, swamp-land grants, Indian and military reservations, and other deductions. Similar conditions as to value of lands and deductions made by the Government in consideration of the grants prevailed in Iowa as in Illi¬ nois, and in some cases in a more marked degree. Take as an illustration the case of the Burlington grant, with which I am personally familiar. That company received 358,424 acres in Iowa, which had been in the market for many years at $1.25 an acre, with no buyers. Speculators would not buy these lands because they could not be sold at a profit. Money in that country commanded 10 per cent, and in many cases as high as 1 per cent a month. To the speculator it was more profitable to lend his money than to buy land from the Government at $1.25 an acre. Settlers would not buy the land even under the very liberal provision of the preemption laws, because there was no market for their products. Instances were numerous in western Iowa of land selling at 70 cents an acre which had been entered at $1.25, because pur¬ chasers could not then make a living on the land. That same land now sells for $200 an acre, because New England capital built a railroad for them. Who received the chief profit in that case? The landowner and not the owners of the railroad. For years after the Burlington road was built its stock, which had been paid for at par, sold at 15 cents on the dollar and its 10 per cent bonds sold much below par, although it owned these lands as well as the railroad. The owners of the Burlington road could have taken $450,000 in money and bought every acre of that Iowa land grant. But how much money has the Government compelled it to pay back as the price of that grant? Up to the first day of October, 1916, the company had paid to the Government $2,209,000 as the 20 per cent deduction from its mail pay, pursuant to the Holman law of 1876. Exact figures are not available since October, 1916, when the so-called " space basis " for carrying the mails was inaugurated, but this exaction is going on year after year ! Hundreds of thousands of dollars are now being paid every year by these land-grant roads out of their mail pay because of the " gift " which Congress presented to them in 1856. ïn the case of the Burlington Co. in the State of Iowa it has repaid to the Government in cash by these mail-pay deductions alone more than five times the full money value which the Government parted with in making the Iowa land grant. Besides this, in carrying the train loads of troops and munitions of war and Government property across the State of Iowa, during the 50 years since the road was completed from Burlington to Omaha, at half the lawful tariff rates, that company has repaid several times over the value of every acre of land that was granted to it. There is another side to this particular feature that is often over¬ looked. Other railroads have been built across Iowa since the land-grant period, such as the Milwaukee & St. Paul and Great Western, which are, technically, not subject to the 50 per cent reductions in tariff, but, 7 being in land-grant territory the Government ^authorities force them to also make the cut rate as a condition of giving them any business. The result is a 50 per cent tariff throughout this whole region, whether the road received a land grant or not. It is common practice for the Gov¬ ernment to enforce this 50 per cent reduction from the tariff along the entire line of a transcontinental road which has no land grant, such as the Rio Grande and Western Pacific, solely because the Northern Pacific had a land grant for its entire length ! The discrimination thus forced upon western roads by the Govern¬ ment in both mail pay and traffic generally, in comparison with great eastern lines, like the New York Central and the Pennsylvania and New Haven, which had no " gift " of lands, is a severe and costly discrimina¬ tion, to which the Senator from Oregon, as a Western Senator, speaking for his constituents, might well have called attention in discussing the railroad land grants. THE NEBRASKA GRANTS. In the case of the large grant made to the Burlington road in Ne¬ braska the company sold thousands of acres of these lands at 25 cents per acre, but at the date of the grant it is extremely doubtful whether the entire grant could have been disposed of at $1 per acre, since the United States Government had probably not sold an acre of its land adjoining the lands covered by this grant at its standard price of $1.25 per acre, while at the same time many persons by the purchase of land scrip acquired title to some of the choicest Nebraska lands, more favor¬ ably located than one-half or more of this grant, at a cost of less than $1 per acre. In many counties wherein these lands are located no home¬ steads— at a total expense of $14 for 160 acres — were located until long after the date of this grant, and many of these counties were not " organized " until 1871 to 1878, years after the date of this grant. THE NORTHERN PACIFIC GRANT. The Northern Pacific Railway was not completed until 20 years after its land grant was made, and since then it has gone through bankruptcy twice, notwithstanding its ownership of these lands and of its railroad. Plow much good did the original stockholders to whom the lands were given realize from the gift? And the same inquiry is pertinent as to the Union Pacific land grant and the grants made to the Rock Island, the Santa Fe, and other western roads that have been foreclosed. Prior to the actual construction of the Northern Pacific the settlement and development of the country was insignificant. There were no dwellings, much less towns, except in the vicinity of Army posts and mining camps and a small community on Puget Sound. The whole country, excepting Indian and military reservations, was open to homestead and other entry under the public land laws, and the maximum charge by the United States for agricultural lands entered prior to the definite location of the road was $1.25 per acre. Generally speaking, the Indians were occupying the territory to the exclusion of others. Practically all the value the lands now have has resulted from the construction of the road. 8 Seven-eighths of all the lands granted to the Northern Pacific Rail¬ way have now been sold, and the net receipts and uncollected deferred payments have produced for the company an average of $2.89 per acre, as officially reported. the union pacific grant. Under date of November 11, 1919, the land commissioner of the Union Pacific Railway made the following estimate of the value of the lands covered by their grants at the time of the grants, namely : In Nebraska and Kansas, $1 an acre. In Colorado, 50 cents an acre. In Wyoming and Utah, 25 cents an acre. The table which the Senator from Oregon caused to be inserted in the Record shows railroad grants of acreage in Southern States as Hon. E. B. Stahlman, of Nashville, before a congressional committee, when resisting an attempt to still further reduce the mail pay of the land-grant roads, stated under oath: " The land granted in Alabama consisted of hills and mountains not susceptible of cultivation. The Florida lands were sand hills thinly covered with small pine of little value. Of these the best have been sold at 70 cents per acre. The companies can not realize 25 cents per acre on what remains unsold. When the grants were made, their value could not have exceeded 12 cents per acre. Lands of greater value were sold all through Florida and Alabama for that price." Hon. W. A. McRae, now commissioner of agriculture for the State of Florida, wrote from Tallahassee under date of November 21, 1919: " It would be fair to assume that the bulk of the lands granted to Florida railroads brought them less than $1.25 per acre." When account is taken of the taxes paid and commissions, advertis¬ ing, and other costs of selling, Mr. Stahlman's estimate that the value which the Government contributed toward the construction of these southern roads did not exceed 12% cents an acre does not seem far out of the way. The grant to the St. Louis & San Francisco Co. was for 1,668,000 acres in Missouri, and concerning its value the land commissioner says : " Fifty per cent of this grant was wholly worthless ; 30 per cent was fair, and similar lands sold for 25 cents per acre; the remaining 20 per cent were worth $1 per acre." Concerning the Atlantic & Pacific grant, the vice-president of that company says: " The company sold 3,500,000 acres at 75 cents per acre, 1,058,560 acres at 50 cents per acre to a cattle company, and 259,000 southern grants. follows : acres. Alabama Florida . Arkansas Missouri Mississippi 1,075,345 2,746,560 2,216,980 2,562,095 1,837,968 9 acres at 70 cents per acre, an average of 87 cents per acre, or $4,670,000. The taxes and expense of selling the lands to date have been $622,000, the mail pay deductions $430,000, and large deductions on account of transportation of troops and munitions of war. The company would be glad to sell all the land it now owns or will receive at 25 cents per acre. There is no demand for it and the truth is it can not be sold for any sum." TEXAS GRANTS. More lands, by far, were granted by the State of Texas to aid in the construction of railroads than by any other State, mainly because they had more to give. What was the value of these lands according to the views of Texans who are qualified to speak? Two of thé largest grants in Texas were those made to the Inter¬ national & Great Northern (5,646,720 acres) and to the Gulf, Colorado & Santa Fe (3,554,560 acres). The International & Great Northern lands (12,800 acres per mile) were forced upon the railroad company in 1875, in place of bonds of $10,000 per mile which had been granted and were promised — that is, the company was compelled to accept the lands on a basis of 78 cents an acre. But this was an exceptionally valuable grant because the surveys were allowed to be made in solid bodies, and the lands were wholly exempt from all taxes for 25 years. They had to be located in the arid regions of Texas, and lands of better value were freely sold in those days at 10 cents an acre. The result of being compelled to accept these lands was that the International & Great Northern was forced into bankruptcy in 1876, and in those proceedings these lands were turned bodily over to the bond¬ holders, and did not really contribute to the building of a mile of the road. * - The Gulf, Colorado & Santa ¥e built 1,000 miles of railroad in Texas and received land certificates on the first 200 miles, amounting to 3,554,560 acres, which they sold for $246,677, less $35,508, expenses, the net proceeds being $211,168. The road was cheaply constructed and the proceeds of their land grant were. sufficient to pay for the con¬ struction and equipment of 10 miles of the 1,000 miles, according to the statement of date December 10, 1919, by the Federal manager, Mr. F. G. Pettibone, well known all over Texas. This was not an improvident or unusual sale. The prevailing price of similar lands in Texas from 1878 to along in the eighties averaged from 10 to I2V2 cents an acre. Over 32,000,000 acres were granted in Texas, with an outside selling value of $6,000,000, which would construct and equip about 150 miles of the present 15,740 miles in that State, or less than 1 per cent. VALUE OF ALL GRANTS. The tables filed by the Senator from Oregon aggregate 124,000,000 acres, and if the swamp and other lands granted by States, including Texas, are added, the grand total is approximately 174,000,000 acres, which no reasonable man with knowledge of the facts would estimate as 10 having a value, when granted, to exceed $174,000,000, of which the com¬ panies have already repaid at least one-half in cash and are subject to perpetual charges which in time will more than equal the other half. That is equivalent to saying that all the lands granted to all rail¬ roads in the United States have not been equal in value to 1 per cent of the cost of the roads. The figures of the gross sales will, of course, aggregate a larger amount, but from these must be deducted taxes, com¬ missions, and sale expenses, and this increased value is a value which the railroad has itself created. The history of land grants to railroads in this country has not yet been written. It was in the main a record of pioneering and risk, of financial struggles, disappointments, and loss. When that history is impartially written and the facts of each grant are disclosed it will probably be made clear that from the point of view of the public it was a wise and beneficent policy, the chief beneficiaries of which have been the fortunate farmers who bought the lands and improved them. The railroad companies were interested in getting the lands into the ownership of actual settlers who would cultivate them and create traffic for their roads, which was far better for the general good than to have them owned by speculators. There is no evidence that they did not act in good faith in promptly disposing of the lands and devoting the pro¬ ceeds to the construction of the roads. Senator Chamberlain in speaking of these grants characterizes them as " gifts." Gifts of this character are made by the public, not because the givers love those to whom they are made, but to induce the recipients to do something for them. What was the motive behind these so-called gifts of land? It was to induce those to whom the lands were offered to risk their money in building railroads through uninhabited regions in order that the public might profit by their investment. Instead of mak¬ ing a gift the public received a full and adequate financial compensation in the building of the roads entirely aside from the actual repayments of cash that have been exacted. Discussion of this subject from the standpoint of statesmanship, to say nothing of common fairness, Avould take into consideration the state of the country and conditions in the West and all the motives which led to the adoption of the policy by Congress. Instead of such discussion it has been the practice for years by a certain class of politicians to bring out and reproduce at intervals this detailed list of the acreage granted to railroads by States and by com¬ panies, v/ithout stating values, or the conditions of the grants, and then by innuendo and insinuation, and sometimes by direct assertion, seek to create in the public mind of the present day a belief that the railroads were largely built by these gifts of land. Those engaged like Mr. Plumb in a propaganda for gaining control of the railroad property of the country without the investment of a dollar and without the slightest responsibility for consequences may be expected to indulge in more or less reckless assertion, but such indul¬ gence is not looked for in the Senate. [Mr. Chamberlain addressed the Senate. His speech will be pub¬ lished hereafter.] " 11 Senator Chamberlain's Reply to Mr. Baldwin The Congressional Record states above that on Monday, January 12, Mr. Chamberlain took the floor to reply to Mr. Baldwin but " withheld his remarks," as Senators may do. His speech in reply appeared two days later, in the Congressional Record of Wednesday, January 14, so that the Senator took two full days, with the statement in print before him, to revise his speech and gather material to refute Mr. Baldwin's figures. Senator Chamberlain's reply on January 14th occupied fifty-two pages of the Congressional Record, that is, from pages 1583 to 1635, inclusive. The following is a full, true and correct reproduction of every impor¬ tant statement contained in this " reply " of Senator Chamberlain. In¬ stead of answering any of Mr. Baldwin's points, the Senator sought to vindicate himself personally and his attitude as disclosed in his speech of December 19th. He says: I resent that I was unconsciously misled by the Encyclopedia of American Government." He states that he not only copied what this Encyclopedia had to say about land grants, but, he adds, " I not only did that, but I made portions of the Report of the Commissioner of the General Land Office a part of my remarks." Then, as if it was a further and complete vindication of himself, he adds : " In order further to convince Mr. Baldwin of the accuracy of my statements, I ask to have printed in the Record, as an appendix to my remarks, a statement showing the land grants made by Congress to aid in the construction of railroads, together with data relative thereto, compiled from the records of the General Land Office by order of the Secretary of the Interior and printed as a public document in 1915." The statement from the General Land Office, to which the Senator refers, occupies 49 pages of his speech in the Congressional Record, but is simply a repetition in more extended detail of the dates, names of companies and acreage. It is the same information that he copied from an Encyclopedia and put into his speech of December 19th, only in a different form. Can it be possible the Senator from Oregon does not see that a mere restatement of this acreage at length is not a vindication, and means nothing? Nobody has denied the acreage, or the names of the railroads, but what of it? Does the Senator think that his course is justified because he copies a list of companies and acreage from an official report of the General Land Office instead of from an Encyclopedia? For the enlightenment of the Senate upon the subject of the land grant policy he might as well have put into the Record 49 pages of the dictionary. What the Senate and the public want to know is: • \ Why were these land grants made to railroads? What were the conditions and circumstances that led Congress in 1850, and subsequently, to enact this legislation? What considerations were involved? 12 What did the Government part with; that is, what were the lands worth ? What did the companies pay for the lands; what exactions and reservations were embodied in the various Acts of Congress? Was it a wise and beneficent policy, worthy of approval, or should it be condemned? How does it bear upon the question of whether the railroads should be returned to their owners on March 1st? Has Senator Chamberlain an answer to these questions, or any of them? Apparently none. It is no answer to merely file a table of names of railroad companies and acreage occupying 49 pages of the Congres¬ sional Record. It is entirely immaterial whether the Senator relied upon an Ency¬ clopedia article or an official table from the Land Office for names and acreage. What he has done and what Mr. Glenn Plumb has done and what certain politicians and magazine and newspaper writers have been doing for years to poison the public mind about the railroads, is simply to print this long list of land grants, with names and acreage, and con-"^ tent themselves with that alone for facts, and then denounce and vilify those who are struggling to save the roads from bankruptcy. Mr. Baldwin gave details and facts regarding the land grants. He furnished evidence, and criticized Senator Chamberlain because he had furnished no evidence except the bare facts of acreage. Instead of the railroads of the country having been built from the proceeds of land grants, Mr. Baldwin showed that the entire net value which the Gov¬ ernment parted with would not build one per cent of the present railroad system. He showed that instead of being a " gift " the lands were paid for. He showed that in many cases the land grants were a burden in¬ stead of a help. He showed that the lands were handled economically and to the best advantage possible and the proceeds applied honestly in the building of the roads. Does Senator Chamberlain deny any of the facts submitted by Mr. Baldwin? No, he does not. He virtually admits the truth of all Mr. Baldwin^s statements as to the reasons, the motives, the values, and the wisdom of the land grant policy. Senator Chamberlain does, however, make one insinuation about " slush accounts " that is unworthy. It is in the following language : " I do not mean to charge that Mr. Baldwin has falsified anything, because my friend the Senator from Utah (Mr. King) says he is a highly honorable man; but I do know, and I charge, that in many in¬ stances railroad companies that had these immense grants have charged up anything they pleased against the moneys received from the land grants. It has constituted a sort of a slush account into which they might inject many charges that ought not to have been made against the proceeds of the land grants and ought not to have been charged against the Government at all." He says that he " knows " and he " charges " that in many in¬ stances " railroads have kept a " slush account into which they inject charges that ought not to have been made against the proceeds of the land grants." 13 That statement calls for an immediate and unqualified denial. There is no such slush account," and in the nature of the case it would be an impossibility. The Illinois Central has paid $16,000,000 to the State of Illinois in excess taxes because of its land grant. Is that a " slush account "? The Burlington Company has had over $2,000,000 taken out of the mail pay on its Iowa road because of its land grant, worth $450,000. Is that a " slush account "? These deductions are made pur¬ suant to law. This insinuation of the Senator from Oregon is a reflec¬ tion upon the officials of every western road that received a land grant. Will he make the charge good or retract it? One other statement remains in the Senator's reply. In his original speech he denounced the railroads for taking fifty per cent of their regular tariff rates for transporting Government troops and property, as the Supreme Court decided they are entitled to take. He said in do¬ ing this they were " repudiating their solemn contract." That statement he wishes to retract. He says : " Many of the roads agreed to carry Federal troops and munitions of war under varying agreements. I may have stated it a little too broadly if I said they agreed to carry them for nothing." He certainly did state it too broadly ; his statement was without foundation. In order to correctly state Senator Chamberlain's attitude towards the railroads it is necessary to recall the circumstances of his original speech of December 19th. He was addressing the Senate upon the ques¬ tion of whether the roads of the country shall be returned to their owners or retained in control of the Government, as demanded in the Glenn Plumb propaganda. The great eastern roads, such as the New York Central and Pennsylvania,.never had any land grants, but to give a semblance of point to his argument against the roads being restored to their owners the Senator sneered at the representation of hardships to the companies, which he characterized as a cry of " Wolf," and thus found a pretext for placing in the Record the list of land grants to which he so frequently alludes, saying, " With these magnificent and munifi¬ cent grants there is no reason except inefficiency of management for the condition in which they have found themselves." The subject of the proper disposition of the public domain has always interested statesmen, and the policy of promoting the country's develop¬ ment by appropi^ating what Senator Benton described as " refuse " lands for the construction of railroads was carefully considered and had the unanimous support of the people of that day. William H. Seward, Henry Clay, Stephen. A. Douglas, Thomas H. Benton and statesmen of that class understood it, discussed it and established it. Now that the country has had the benefits resulting from the building of the railroads by private capital, and the lands have all been sold, it is reserved for politicians of this later day to discuss it by Encyclopedia and Land Office reports of acreage, and then proceed to denounce the present owners of the roads who have inherited the perplexing prob¬ lems of the hour, few of which have any relation to the land grants, o^* the land grant policy. 14 3 5556 042 147983