THE and OF. THE Eafl-India-T rade. Stated, and humbly offer'd to the Confi- deration of the Prefenc PARLIAMENT- L 0 N D 0 N, Printed in the Year MDCC. The Profit atiii Lofi of the Eaft- India-Trade, Stated-, and humbly offered to the Conjide- ration of the ^refent Parlia- ment, j H E AfFair of the Eaft-hdia-T rade 1 being Matter of long Debate in England, and there being as many Opi- nions as there are differing Interefts : I hope it will not be unacceptable to un- byaffed Perfons, to give fome little Light into that Trade, with refped to a Na- tional Profit and Lofs; I Ihall take no more notice of particulaj' Dealers, than is n^ceiTary to help us to give a true Eiti- mate of the Projit' or Lofs as it effects the whole; and I will endeavour to do this, as one unconcern'd in any particular In- X tereft, and as dcfirous of the good of the A I Nation (4) Natio> . And that we may the more diftin6:ly underftand, wherein the Be- nefit and Advantage of that Trade conr fifts, I will take notice of the Commo- ditie? we Export and Import; our Ex- port confiiHng chieHy in Bulloin, which is brought to us as the Effeds of our own Brcdudl and Manufadures, and Foreign Commodities Imported and IBxported again ; and other parts of our Export to Irulia, confift of Cloth, Pur- petuanys, &c. Annually, as near as I can guefs, to the value of Twenty five, or Thirty Thoufand Pounds j and about five Thoufand Pounds in feveral forts of HabK^rdafhery Wares; the Working and the Materials of thefe Commodi- ties being our own, this Trade mull be thus far an Advantage to EngUfid in general; befides, there is by this Trade, an Employment for about Twenty five or Thirty Ships, which may employ two Thoufand Sea-men, and the In- flruments and Tackle for fayling thefe Ships, employ many Perfons of diffe- rent Trades. • The ( 5 ) The Goods Imported from ImU as the Effefts of our Bulloin, and Com- modities are various, fome of them i^fe- V ful for our own Confumption, others helpful to us in War, fome advantagi-. OLTS for Exportation, others dcftrudive to our own Produd and Manufadures, and a hindrance to our Merehandizing with our ov/n Commodities, and fo per- • nicious or advantagious according to the Ufes they ferve too: The Goods that are Imported from India^ that are not of hindrance to our own Produd or Manufadures, cannot do us dired- ly any dammage, tho' confum'd a- inongtt us, unlefs they hinder our Mer- chandizing Trade with our Neighbours, in our own Commodities, where our^ Profit is greater : There is alfo import-^^ ed from India^ many iinwrought Mate- rials for Art and Manufadures, which yield an Employment to our People, and in that refped, is an Advantage to the Nation. But that we may more diftindly un- derftand this Matter, we will confider the Profit that comes to each latereft, concerned fo far as either can be ac- A 5 counted % (O counted a National Profit, that Part wherein the Merchant only is concern- ed, let us enquire what his ProEt may be in his Importation and Exportation ; we will fuppofe the whole of our Ex- port fhould be Bulloin, and in Com- modities to the value of Five Hundred Thoufand Pound fer Annum^ it then will follow, That whatever he fells, his Re- turns for more than Principal and Char- ges is the Merchant's ProEt; and the Merchants being Inhabitants of England^ the Nation muft be fo much the Rich , er, unlefs theie Effects be ufed to Lux- ury, or fome other way hinder other . v Advantagious Employments; but what this Profit of the whole Imports a- mount to, is very bard to aflert, unlefs we take our Guefs from the Increafe or Diminution of the Stocks that have been employed in that Trade ; and it being moffiy carried on in Companies, the Managers of fuch Companies can eafily tell what they lave or lofc; and the Perfons concern'd in thofe Trades, muff know by their Dividends, and the Va- lue of their principal Stock; what ' Yearly Intereff and Advantage they make y 7 ) make: and a Man would think by their greedinefs to catch at, and unwiU lingnefs to part with any part of this Trade, it fhould be very profitable to ^ the Traders that are concerned therein, and yet at the fame time; to hear the fame Men complain. That they are great Lofers, and that their Stocks, for many Years, have iefien'd, and not fo much as Common Interefl: divided a- mong the Subfcribers, which with their Alfercing both in Print and otherwife, as it may ferve their Intereft, That the ^ India Trade double the Principal every Return; and that they inake Two of ^ One in Three Years; that is from the time of their Export, to the time they receive their Mc for the Sale off didions, and are unaccountable; but Perfons of fuch Reputation afferting it, we will fuppofe it to be true, and then the Rate of that Trade Rands thus, with Fifteen Hundred Thoufand Pound Stock doubled once in Three Years, they fave, I fuppofe they mean towards their Charges, Five Hundred their Returns; appear Contra- Thou- ( 8 ) Thoufand Pound per Annumy which they tell us, is all Profit to the Nation. The next part of this Trade to be confider'd is, that which is Exported a- gain to other Countries, by our own Merchants; and even here we muft di- ftinguifh between that part of this Ex- portation that isoppofite to, and hinder the Exporting our own Materials and Manufadures, and what is Foreign to Our own Commodities; but that we may give this Trade all Advantage that it can pretend to, we will furpofe our Mer- chants Export per Annum to the Va- lue of Two hundred thoufand Pound in InAh Commodities, and advance Ten per Cent, above the Coft at the pub- lick Sale, this will add Twenty Thou- fand Pound Profit to the Nation, over and above what the Importer gains at the Inch of Candle ; and tliis I conceive to be the whole National Profit this Trade can have any Pretence to, if fo much may be allowed to it. I can by no means bring in to this Account any Profit that the Whole-fale or Retai-Dealer at Home, receh/e by their trading in thefe Commodities, be- caufe \ ( 9 ) caufe in the Nation, what one faves a- iiother lofes, and the Commodities are neither more or kfs valuable, or the Na- tion Richer or Poorer, tho' thofe Com- modities fhould be fold and bought a Thoufand times over., Neither can I allow any National Profit by the Home-Confumptions of thefe Commodities, more than accrue to the Importer at his Firft Sale, the Price whereof generally agreeing with the Price of our own Manufactures, to which they are oppofite, fo that the Confu- mer may furnifh himfelf with our own Commodities, fully as cheap as in thefe, and have as great a variety for his Choice, and asferviceable: If any will affert that thefe Manufactures promote the Exportation of our own, which I wholly deny, or that our Manufactures cannot fupply our Occafions and De- mands, which I never yet met with a- ny that would afiert, and the great want of Employment of our People, e- vidence the contrary; fo that the Pro- fit that comes to this Nation, upon a Sup- pofition what thefe Gentlemen Aikft is Truci ftands-thus^ B By ( 10 ) Pounds, 500000 20000 40000 In all, 56000Q We will next confider what -Loft comes to the Nation by this Trade to I/^dU, and I will do it under thefe Heads ; ^ as it hinders our Exportation, and as it prevents the Emylopment of our own People, and as it hinders the Improvement of our own Manufadlures, and the Confumption of our own Wool. As to our Exportation, it has been a great hindrance of our Exports to Hoi- land^ and our Wejl-IndU Colonies, that we have enjoyed to the one for more than one Hundred Years, and to the 0- ther By the Return of FiveO Hundred Thoufand Pound > from India per Jrmum, \ By the Export from £->^-7 land by our Merchants. 3 Behdes what Advantage we have by an Export oQ Thirty or Forty ldioufand> Pounds per Annum in Ma-N nufadures. ( ) ther for a long time; it is known to many Merchants and others, that we have had a very confiderable Trade to / I thefe Places in Commodities made of Wool, and Silk and Wool, for Wo- mens Ware and Ufe; and that no European Merchants or Manufadliires could ever get this Trade from us, thefe being natural to England ; we haveoiit- fold and under-fold all our Neighbours ; but lince the Improvement and Increafe of the Importation of Gotten and Silk, and Gotten and Herba Commodities from India^ which Increafe our Mer- chants almoft alone have caufed. ** We have wholly loft our Trades to thefe Places, for our Manufaftures that are proper for Women's Gonfumption, that are fine, and above the value of Twelve Pence per Yard ; our Wejl-In- dies that us'd formerly, and ftill might be cloathed with our own Manufa- £lures, for the Female Sex will now touch none, unlefs luch as are very Cheap, at eight Pence, ten Pence, or twelve per Yard ; and to that De- gree is this Trade loft, that of all thofe fcveral Species of fine Goods that ufe to B 2 be ( 12 ) be made in, and Exported out of E^g- land ; upon the heft Inquiry I can make, there is not now one Hundred Looms at Work, in the whole Nation, upon Stuffs for Women, to the value of Eighteen; Pence fer Yard, made of Wool or Silk and Wooll and Grogram Yarn, and thofe that be occafion'd by an Ac- cident of the prefent Mourning, where- as formerly this Nation usM to abound with different kinds of thefe Manufa- ftures, from twelve Pence fer Yard, to five or fix Shillings; and that this Dam- mage may be the furer faftened upon us, a Draw-back is allowed to our own Collonies, that they may be Cloathed Cheaper than the Inhabitants of Eng- land with India Manufadfures ; and that pur own Commodities may be fhut out, tho' the Inhabitants of thpfe Collonies are obliged to ufe only what they have from us, which mufi: be a great lofs to this Nation, both in the Materials and Workmanfiiip, which both to Holland and to thefe Plantations, cannot amount to lefs than Two hundred Thou- land Pound per An. and this Lofs muft come by the Inaia I'rade, no Manufa- aures ( I? ) Oiiires {landing in oppofition to thefe of onr own, but Mia, We will now confider our Turky and Italian Trades ; and tbo' I acknowledge the prefect Traders to thefe Places, are more competent Judges of what Dam- mage come to them in their Exports ; yet I cannot but take notice they are much lefs then formerly, the Rca- fons may be various; I fhall only hint what is obvious from the Eafi-lndith- frade: This Account I have had of Matter of Fa£l:, from known Perfons, with refpe8: to their Aleppo Trade; that before our Cloth was carried di- re£lly by Sea to Perfta^ great Numbers of Carravans ufe to come through a long Tra6: of Land many hundreds of Miles with Silk and other Commodities to A- leppo^znd buy our Cloth of ourFa£lors that refided there; and in their Return in the great Towns and Villages as they paf- fed, us'd to fell our Cloth to the Inha- bitants of thofe Countries, in very large quantities; and that fince the India Mer- chants have fupplyed the PerJiansj thefe Carravans have ceafed to come; and though we may have kept part of our ( >4 ) Perjta Trade, we have lofl: the Trade of thofe large Countries through which thefe Carriers have formerly palfed, which have not only been, if true, a i lofs to our Export of Cloth, but a fur- therLofs to this Nation, by keeping our Poor unemploy'd in the Silk tliat us'd to be brought in exchange for this Cloth; and here I think it con- venient to mention, how profitable to this Nation our Turky Traders have . been, who us'd not only to Export our Product, but this ProduQ: Employed great numbers of People; and the Re- turns of thefe Commodities being Ma- terials Unmanufaftured, afford an Em- ' ployment in England for more than one hundred thoufand People; and the great difference between thefe and the India Merchant, who bring his Returns fully Manufadured : As to our Italian Mer- chants, it is apparent, their little Trade for their Returns have hinder'd their Exports, and I think it highly reafon- able to conclude the lofs of the Ufe and Confumption of our Turky and Italic an Effeds in the many Manufadures. ^ ^ ^ Tha ' ( '5 ) That they ufe to be wrought up in both Lor^on and Canterbury, have been a very great caufe that our Exports to Turkey and Italy have been fo low ; and the great Lofs that have come to the Na- tion by the want of Employment for fo many Thoufand People in London and Canterbury, is very difficult to compute ; befides the Damage that this Nation fu- ftains, by fo many of its Artifts going to Ireland, Nerv-England^ and other Places; the Effeds we do not yet find, and what- ever Lofs comes to us thefe Ways, muft be attributed to the Increafe of India Ma- nufa£l:ures, that in fuch a degree, have unhinged all thefe Trades; and in all its Parts (^cannot amount to lefs than one hundred Thoufand Pound ^er Jnni) as it may have hindred the Export of Cloth, and Serges; and to as much as it hath hindred the Employment of our Poor, in working up the Returns of thofe Cora- modities, it being common to pay more for the working of Silk and Grogram- Yarn than the Material cofl:. The next thing to be confider'd is, what Lofs there comes by the India-T rade, as it hinders the Employment of the Poor; and C i6 ) and the Employment of People being more advantagious to any Nation than any other Trade; and Experience fhew- ing, that all Nations in the World are Rich or Poor, according as their People are employed; I conceive what Lofs comes this way to be irreparable, and no Equivalent to be found for it. Many al^ fert this UdiA Trade to be very Advan- tagious, as it makes Two of One in Three Years; but though this be great, yet not to be compared to the Profit that comes by the Labour of the People. Take one In- ftance, our fine Manufadures of Wool, will, in one Month's time bring ten thoufand Pound worth of Wool by La- bour and Art, to be worth one hundred thoufand Pound, which is-Ten of one in a Month, and fo go on throughout the Year. And if the Trade to MU hinder the Employment of our People to any de- gree, it mnfl: neceffarily be fo far a great Lofs to England ; now let any Man call his Eye about the £;i?gNation, efpeci- ally thofe Places whofe Manufactures are oppofite to India ; or let him reflefl a little upon the total lofs of many Species of Manufallures;' that no Nation in ( »7 ) rope^ could ever yet hinder us in either, 1 as to our Home-ConfumptionS, or Fo- reign Exports; and let us confider the direct oppofition there is between their Stuffs made ofSilk,and Silk and Gotten, or Only Gotten,and ourManufafI: ures of Silks ! and Silk, and Wortted and Woolen; and how thefe take up the fame Places with ours, and let us inquire into the Po- ' verty, the want of Work; the Gries of the Poor for Employment and Bread in thefe Places; and certainly we miift con- elude, thefe Gommodities hinder great- ly the Employment of our People, and the Poor muft be maintain'd with, or without Work, and nO Man can at the Requeft of his Neighbours or Friends employ People in one Place, but he muft leffen his Employment in another, it be- ing very hard to conclude how far the Lofsby Gommodities reach under this Head, We will join it with the next; which is how this Trade hinders the Im- provenient of our ManufaQures. Improvement is an Excellency which Englijh'VCi^ generally have afcribed to them; and it was a great Perfection,' that Wdoll, I mean the long fine EtigUfh.^ € Wool \ ( i8 ) Wool Was brought to in leveral kinds of Commodities; ten, fifteen, twenty Shil- lings laid out in Labour and Art upon one Pound of EngUlh-VJoo\y and many . Thoufand Pieces of our Stuffs, that weigh'd not above fix,eight or ten Pounds have been Exported to Holland^ and Scotlmd, and the Wefi-Indies , and Sold for fix, .eight, or ten Pounds per piece; and what a great Employment did one hundred thoufand Pound worth of Wool, thus wrought, give to our People, arid by confequence, thefe fome of the moit valuable Manufadures England had; but fince the Importation of fuch Quantities India Commodities, our Gentry of the Female Sex, and thofe that follow them at Home, and abroad in tlieir Fafhions. Slighting our Manufactures, the Dealers in them could not give a Price for, or incourage the making of thera.TheMa- hufaCturers have been forced to debafe them, there being the greateil Incourage* ment to him, that could make the flight- eft Goods J fo that whereas we us'd to make looooo 1. worth of Wool by La* hour, to be worth one Million either at home ( «9 ) home or abroad. If we allow this Woo! be now wrought up, it isinfuch flight, cheapCommodities as amount not to more . I I than three or four hundred thoufand ij Pound in value, which, a^ it is a great 1 Lofs to the Nation, fo it is a true Rea- fon why not more than one Third Part of thofe People are employed as might and would be, had we none or fewer of ■ thefe Indian Manufa6lufes ; now I being' fully fatisfyM that this is matter of Fa6l and true, I hope I may have leave to, make a modeft guefs; I fuppofe that there ! . us'd to be Annually two hundred thoufand f Pounds worth of our long Wool wrought " up in thofe Commodities, now either loft or debafed ; and that the like quantity of ' this Wool is wrought up into Commodi- ties, which make but four of one; then upon this Head there muft be 1 20C000 /. loft in Labour and Art per Ann, and this^ lofs of Employment muft come from In- I dia Manufadures being confumed by the I Chief of our Gentry at Home, and our ! Plantations abroad that follow our Faftii- ons, no other Manufactures ftanding in oppofition to them ; and befides the lofs, ' 1 this tends greatly to the Nation's diflio- ^ C 2 nour: . 20 j jiGur. The laft Thing I fhall mention, is to fhew how this Trade hinders the Con- ftimpcion of, and keeps down the Price of our Wool; as to the Confumption of Wool, if as before it hinders our Export to Turkey and Itdy^ to the valde of one hundred thpufand Pound per Am, The Wool that thofe Comrnodities would take up, muft be to the value of fixteen thou- fand /.; and if we fhall allow our Wefi- India Exports, and home Confumption to be but one hundred thoufand Pound in value, yet this is a great lofs ; and I can- not reckon all the Wool that is Exported Annually by our India Traders, to amount to more than 6 or 7000 /. for which I have accounted in my Head for Profit; and as to the Price of this Wool, the In- dia Trade fo far as itlefiens the Confump- tion, it muft bring down the Price; thefe ^ings being matter of FaH, I leave it to tttter Judgments to confider of them ; but if true, as I think and believe upon the beft Inquiry and Obfervation I can make, Then the ftate of England's lofs by India Manufactures, that are oppofite to our ewn, ftandsthus; • i i ■ , ^ ; i Damage / Damage as it hinders our- Exports to HoUandy Germany Portugal^ and our Wefi-Jndia^ Colonies, As it hinders our Export to? Turkey and Italy, S As it hinders the working up of Turkey and Italian Ef-( fe£ls, and employment ofj our Poor in them. As it hinders the Employ- ing of our Poor, and pro- cures the debafing our own fine Manufaftures. As it hinders the Confump- ^ tion of our Wool, and as itQ tends to bring down the val-^ lue thereof. j Pounds, 200000 lOOOOO looooo I200000 > I16000 Total lyidoooK^ And I hope no Man will wonder at this Account, when they confider the great part of the dammage lies in the ten- dency of this India Trade, to the deba- fing of our own Manufa£lures, and lb hinders the Employment of our People in them ( 22 ) them,and bringingthem out ofReputation wherever they come; for this Trade would have the fame effect upon Cloth, Ihouid there be brought great quantities of Commodities from hdUj or any other Place in oppofition to it, that fhould have the fame eileem with the People; and here we may fee that there comes more Lois to England than Profit by this Trade fer An, 1156000 I. : And if thefe things be plain and evident, can this Trade, as managed, be accounted profitable, when part of it does much more hurt than the whole does good ? And is it not natural to the Nobility and Gentry of England to in- fer, we fee what part is fit to be incou- raged, and what a necellity there is to re- Ifrain that which does fo much damage ? And certainly every Englifi-mRn com cern'd in this Trade, will no longer de- fire to carry on a Trade fo much to the damage of his Country. And the Whole-Sale and Retail Dealers in thefe Commodities fhould infer, fince we can live as well, and fave as much Mo- ney in buying and felling Englijb as Indian Manufactures, v/hy fliould we defire to hinder the Labour of our Neighbour, And ( 2? ) who, if h6 had Employment, would lay out part of his Gettings in our Shops ? And the Confumer fhould conclude it mofl: elegable to wear fuch Garments as wili moft advance his own Eftate, and fupport his poor Neighbour, and caufe Mony to Circulate through every part of his Country, and thereby make the Inha- bitants Pleafant, Eafy, Chearful, Ufeful, Induftrious and Pious. And the Owners of Land may confider the Natural Eflfeds of this Trade^ fo-far as it hinders the Labour of the Poor; the Employment of People being the only means to give a value to Landthen fo far as any Trade hinders Employ ment ,fo far it muft lefTen the value of the Product and Rents of Land. I hope the Gentlemen concerned in this Trade, did not apprehend what a Lofs this part of it is to the Nation; and that they thought, that tho' it damaged the Manufactures a little, it was of Advan- tage to the whole, and were deceived by thefalfe Colours that fomeput upon it; and by others reprefenting only the light fide of it; and may it not be expeCted, that others wdll either fhew the miftake 'cf ( 24 ) of this Account, or aQ: like Englifh-rnQn^ and not any longer hinder the Publick Good by fuch weak Pretences; that if the Commodities come not from Iftdla^ they will be brought from our European Neigh- hours, when they fee the great Lofs comes by fuch Manufactures as our Neigh- hours cannot pretend to Import \ upon us, hut we have conftantly Exported to them? Or that other Excuie, that we muft con- fume thofe Goods, or the Dutch will have the Trade ; whereas our Kings Domini- ohs Confume at leaft three parts in four of what is brought to Europe of thefe Com- modities. By T.S: FINIS.