of ttw PRINCETON, N. J. & 1 \C I I J. >w> .( Section . • i5. r. l7. Number , I Digitized by the Internet Archive in 2017 with funding from Princeton Theological Seminary Library https://archive.org/details/ondesertwithbrieOOfiel ^A/clIs of Moses OF THE W A N D-E R I N G I 'of If a* Cmnp’by the Hed Sou MaKliav! it Kath< Urff'Shomer/ y DUlanrc from the Well* of Boses to the Content 153 Bile*. Ciunel’s Journey a tiny 20 to25 Biles. Route - Camps X Ras Mohammed ^ ME n SEA ON THE DESERT WITH A BRIEF REVIEW OF RECENT EVENTS IN EGYPT. ✓ BY HENRY M. FIELD, D.D. AUTHOR or “FROM THE LAKES OF KILLARNEY TO THE GOLDEN HORN,” AND “FROM EGYPT TO JAPAN.” NEW YORK CHARLES SCRIBNER’S SONS 1883 Copyright, 1883 , by CHARLES SCRIBNER'S SONS. 2To CKcorge 35. $ost JH. 3S PROFESSOR OF SURGERY AND BOTANY IN THE SYRIAN PROTESTANT COLLEGE AT BEIRUT, Companion on tfje JBesert, IS AFFECTIONATELY INSCRIBED THIS STORY OF OUR WANDERINGS TOGETHER. CONTENTS .w • xj * # I. Egypt in the Spbing op 1882 1 II. England in Egypt 22 III. The Fiest Day on the Deseet 38 IY. Maeah, Elim and the Camp by the Bed Sea 55 Y. Oue Bedaween Companions 65 YI. A Sabbath in the Wildeeness 78 VII. The Ascent op Mount Seebal 87 VIII. Coming to the Foot op Sinai 98 IX. On the Top op Mount Sinai 109 X. The Hebbew Commonwealth pounded on Religion 121 XI. Theoceacy and Democeacy 138 XII. The Ceiminal Law— was it weitten in Blood ? 156 XIII. Lipe in a Convent 172 XIY. Leaving Sinai. Passing Theough the Mountains 188 XV. The Geeat and Teeeible Wildeeness 203 XVI. Nukhl— on the Route of Pilgeims to Mecca 218 XVII. The Old Sheikh. Illness on the Deseet 232 XVIII. Pekils Among Robbees 248 XIX. Retukning to Civilization 262 XX. The Moslems of Gaza— A Beave Missionaey 273 XXI. Theough the Hill Countey to Bethlehem 283 XXII. Abound the Place wheee Cheist was Boen 291 XXIII. The Dead Sea and the Joedan. Jeeicho 306 XXIV. Going up to Jeeusalem 319 PREFACE. Tlie Peninsula of Sinai has been a favorite ground of Biblical explorers. In their zeal to visit scenes made dear by connection with sacred history, they have sought to follow the track of the children of Israel from the time of their departure out of Egypt ; to trace their marches on the desert ; and to fix the place of their encampments, not only around the base of Sinai, but even when wandering and almost lost in the Great and Terrible Wilderness. The fruit of these researches is a Library of Exploration, which forms a most valuable addition to our Biblical Literature, not only for the knowledge it gives of sacred geography, but of the whole religious, social, and political economy of the Hebrews. While these great works, the monuments of so much learning, occupy the attention of scholars, other readers may be interested in turning over a Portfolio of Sketches, which claims only to present a few Pictures of the Desert. The Peninsula is as unique in its scenery as in its history — combining the three great features of the desert, the moun- tains and the sea ; the sands, the cliffs, and the rolling wa- ters — all which have a peculiar fascination when seen in a pure, transparent atmosphere, with the lights and shadows of sunrisings and sunsettings. Passing through such a country, not as an explorer, but only as a traveller, the writer has been content to accept what came within his personal observation, and to describe only what he could 11 . PREFACE. see with his own eyes. The notes which are here written out were all taken on the spot, often in the most difficult circumstances — in the tent at the close of day, when wea- ried with a long march ; or at noon, resting under a cliff, in “ the shadow of a great rock in a weary land on the shore of the sea, or on the tops of mountains. Sometimes, as he passed over a point of view which commanded a wide sweep of the horizon, he could only rein in his camel, and sketch the scene from the saddle. Pictures thus taken, if they have no other merit, may have that of a literal fidel- ity, and imperfect as they are, may perhaps impart a little of the glow of enthusiasm which the scenes themselves enkindled in him who attempts to describe them, and thus lead some to follow in his steps ; while to others he would hope that these lighter sketches may serve as an introduc- tion to those great works, which are not only of absorbing interest, but rich in learning and instruction. Once only in the following pages is the simple narra- tive — the detail of incidents of tent-life, of the camp and the march, or the description of scenes on the mountain and the desert — interrupted to introduce a defence of the Hebrew Law. This may be thought quite unnecessary. But it has become such a fashion of the day to question, not only the inspiration of Moses, but his wisdom as a Lawgiver, and even his humanity, that one who was loyal to that great name could hardly refrain from some reflec- tions which naturally arose under the cliffs of Sinai. ON THE DESERT. CHAPTER I. EGYPT IN THE SPRING OP 1882. Tlie war had not yet come. For months there had been rumors of trouble in Egypt ; the English papers were full of accounts of tumult and disorder ; there had been a military revolution ; troops had surrounded the Palace of the Khedive, and compelled a change of Minis- try; all power was in the hands of the army; constitu- tional authority was destroyed, and the country was drift- ing into anarchy. Such reports created a feeling of alarm in Europe, and many travellers who had proposed to spend a Winter on the Nile, remained in the South of France, or in Italy. I left Naples with some apprehension, but as we approached Alexandria on the morning of the IGth of Feb- ruary, the sun rose on the same scene as when we had landed there from Constantinople six years before. There was no sign of warlike preparation. Everything had the look of peace and of commercial prosperity. The ships that crowded the harbor showed that we were entering the great maritime city of the East, while there was a faint revival of the ancient splendor in the palaces on the shore. In all this there was nothing to give token of a city that in four short months was to be the scene of a fearful mas- 2 EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. sacre ; and tliat one month later was to he devoted to destruction. For the present there was nothing to excite appre- hension. I landed at Alexandria with no worse fate than that of being pulled this way and that, as every traveller is, by the Arab boatmen, anxious for the honor of carrying his baggage and receiving his money ; and drove to the Hotel de l’Europe on the Place Mehemet Ali, which was the scene of the massacre on the 11th of June ; and proceeded to Cairo without incident, stopping at Tantah by the way, where four months later foreigners were dragged out of trains and butchered in cold blood. But as yet all was quiet, and when I found myself once more in Cairo, in my old quarters at the Grand New Hotel, where I had been six years before, sitting on the same balcony overlooking the Ezbekieh Square, and listening to the same music floating up from under the palm trees below, I felt as if I were at home, and gave myself up to the full enjoyment of the most delight- ful of Eastern cities. For a Winter’s residence, there is no- thing to equal Cairo. The flood of light, which gives bright- ness and color to everything ; the soft and balmy air, which it i 3 a luxury to breathe ; the palms, with their tall trunks and tufted crowns ; the old mosques, with their minarets, from which the muezzin calls the faithful to prayer ; the endless bazaars, with long-bearded Orientals sitting at the place of custom ; the picturesque sights of the streets, with dashing carriages, and lithe and springy syces, dressed in white, with red girdles and velvet caps, running before them, as they ran before the chariot of Pharaoh ; and the long processions of camels, making such a contrast with the donkeys, waddling under the weight of fat, turbaned Turks, or of women, sitting astride and covered in black from head to foot, with only a pair of eyes peering out from faces thickly veiled ; or ambling along, with English riders EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. 3 on their backs, and the donkey boys, now belaboring the little beasts, and now helping their own slow steps by drag- ging at their tails — all these make a variety and change of which one never wearies. Of course, however short one’s visit to Cairo, and how- ever often he has been there before, he must ride out to the Pyramids, to look again with awe and wonder at those mighty monuments of the past ; and to Heliopolis, to see the oldest obelisk in Egypt, still standing, as it stood four thousand years ago in front of the Temple of the Sun. where Joseph saw it when he married the daughter of the priest of On ; and where Plato studied philosophy, as Moses had studied before him, and became, like him, “learned in all the wisdom of the Egyptians.” To its attractions in the way of antiquities, Cairo has recently had a great addition in the royal mummies lately discovered at Thebes, which have been brought down the Nile, and placed in the Museum at Boulak, which I visited with Dr. Grant, who is an authority as an Egyptologist. If it is an honor to stand before kings, even dead kings, I had it to the full that day. There I saw the open sarcopha- gus which holds the mummied body of Raineses II., whose daughter took Moses out of the bulrushes. Dr. Grant has in his private collection a ring, of which he has good reason to believe that it once adorned the finger of Menephtah, the son and successor of Raineses, and the very Pharaoh of the Exodus. Not less interesting to me, in a different way, was a visit to Dr. Schweinfurth, the distinguished African trav- eller, who makes his home in Cairo, as the most conven- ient point Rom which to make his journeys into the inte- rior of Africa. Here he has gathered his great collections of plants ; his walls are lined with charts and maps, on which he kindly traced for me the outlines of his ex- 4 EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. plorations. I listened with amazement at the simple story. For thousands and thousands of miles, he made his way through swamp and jungle and forest, across deserts and over mountains. “And how did you travel ? ” I asked. “On foot.” “With whom?” “Alone!” There is nothing in all the history of exploration more touching than the story of the loss of his treasures. When he had travelled more than two years, and amassed a collection of priceless value, it was destroyed in an hour by the burn- ing of an African village. Then indeed he feared that his reason might give way. To keep his mind in action, he began keeping a record of his own footsteps along his lonely and dreary march, and in six months made an actual count of a million and a quarter of steps ! Thus he got his mind away from brooding on his loss, and his brain into some sort of regular action. After this, who shall say that cour- age of the highest kind has died out from among men, or that even this sordid and selfish age of ours cannot produce heroes equal to any found in story ? He reckons the Nile to be the longest river in the world, but in the measurement he includes, as a part of the great river of Egypt, certain affluents of the lakes out of which it flows : apart from which it might not equal either the Amazon or the Mississippi. There was another man whom it was a pleasure to see walking about the streets of Cairo — M. de Lesseps. He was generally leading a child by the hand, one of his sec- ond family, the children of his old age. I had met him in America, and he received me very cordially. To my in- quiry as to the comparative difficulties of the two great Interoceanic Canals with which his name is connected, he 1 answered without hesitation, that the difficulties of Suez were far greater than of Panama. The former was built in the desert : there were no means of transportation ex- cept the backs of camels, until new approaches were con- EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. 5 structed ; new implements of engineering had to be cre- ated for the unaccustomed task ; even to the end a large part of the excavations had to be made by the fellaheen taking up the sand or the slime in baskets, and carrying it away on the top of their heads ! But at Panama a rail- road is already built across the mountains, which can trans- port men and materials to any point. The old man ex- pressed himself as entirely satisfied with the progress of the work, and spoke with absolute assurance of its complete success ; he was going out to America the next year to see how far it was advanced, although he was nearly eighty years of age, and had not a doubt that he should live to see the waters of the two oceans flowing together. With such a man it seems indeed as if all ordinary rules were reversed ; as if the obstacles of time and nature, which daunt and defeat less ardent spirits, were made to bend to his unconquerable will. Cairo has many social attractions in the resident Euro- pean families, and in strangers that come here for the Winter. The American colony is not large, but it is very pleasant. There are no more charming interiors anywhere than in the hospitable homes of General Stone and Judge Batcheller. Br. Grant, the Scotch physician, is married to an American lady, who is well known for her kindness to strangers and her charities to the poor ; she is now greatly interested in the establishment of a hospital, like that at Beirut, under the charge of those Protestant Sisters of Charity, the Deaconesses of Kaiserswerth. The Ameri- can missionaries, in their new building on the Ezbekieh Square, which includes their chapel and their schools, are working quietly but faithfully to diffuse those elements of knowledge and of Christian faith which are the germ of true civilization. In all these families an American is sure to find a hospitable welcome. 6 EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. But into whatever circle I went, I found that the one absorbing topic was the political state of Egypt. Since I was here six years ago, on my way round the world, great changes had taken place. Ismail the Magnificent was gone, and Tewfik, his son, reigned in his stead. To give the details of these changes would be a long story. A very brief review is sufficient to render intelligible the course of events, which at last has culminated in war. If wa go back to the origin of the troubles in Egypt, we shall find that what the country is suffering to-day is a bit- ter inheritance from the past. The misgovernment of Ismail Pacha prepared the way for the difficulties and em- barrassments of his son, as the excesses of Louis XIV. and Louis XV. prepared the way for the French Kevolution. But let us not be unjust even to Ismail Pacha. He was a man of great ability, and he rendered services to Egypt which should never be forgotten. But for him we should not have the Suez Canal ; at least his share in it was as important as that of M. de Lesseps himself : for while the latter furnished the engineering skill, the former furnished the labor ; and if the capital came chiefly from Paris, yet no small part came from Cairo. One-quarter of all that the Khedive received through his foreign loans, it is esti- mated, went into the construction of the Suez Canal, and thus was paid towards a work which was really of far more benefit to England than to Egypt. The Khedive had a noble ambition for his country, which he wished to take rank among the great powers bordering on the Mediterra- nean. He had vast schemes of national grandeur. To restore the ancient commerce of Alexandria, he spent great sums in enlarging its harbor ; he built here and at ~PoA Said long breakwaters against the sea, and piers and docks and wharves ; he had steamers crossing the Medi- terranean and on the Bed Sea ; to revive agriculture, he EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. 7 dug canals for irrigation to carry tlie “ sweet water ” of the Nile to every part of the Delta ; he encouraged the raising of cotton and of sugar ; while his railroads cross- ing the country, with trains of cars taking the place of caravans of camels, gave to ancient Egypt, with its tem- ples and its Pyramids, the aspect of modern civilization. Ismail is no longer ruler of Egypt, hut these works remain, the enduring monuments of his services to his country. Could he but have stopped here, he would have had a place in history as one of the greatest rulers of his time. But when could an Oriental prince or potentate be content with labors for the public good ? He must needs also sur- round himself with magnificence and splendor. And so Ismail began building palaces with the same recklessness of cost with which Louis XIV. began building Versailles, only that he had not the wealth of France behind him. It has been my fortune, or misfortune, to witness the financial collapse of both Turkey and Egypt. I was in Constantinople in the Autumn of 1875, just after Turkey had announced to Europe that she could no longer pay the interest on her bonds. The wild extravagance of the Sul- tan, wasting untold sums in building palaces, and keeping up his enormous domestic establishment, could have but one issue. To be sure, he paid as long as he could — that is, as long as he could make new debts to pay old ones, or even borrow enough to pay the interest. But a time came when the bankers of London and Paris and Amsterdam were no longer willing to throw their millions into the Bosphorus, and then “there was quickly an end.” The disaster to Turkey was naturally followed by that of Egypt. The credit of both rested on the same hollow foundation. Hardly had we crossed the Mediterranean before we saw the same ruin impending in Cairo that had already come in Constantinople. A long career of extrav- 8 EU-YPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. aganee, exhausting tlie resources of a country that was very poor to begin with, had brought Egypt to the verge of bankruptcy. The crisis was delayed for a time by the purchase of the shares of the Khedive in the Suez Canal by England for four millions sterling. But this could only postpone, it could not prevent, the inevitable ruin. Seeing the shadow on the wall, Ismail at last humbled himself so far as to ask advice, and applied to England to send out to Cairo a man skilled in finance to investigate his affairs, and if possible restore order and confidence. I was in Cano at the moment that Mr. Cave appeared on the scene, and began the Herculean task. He soon found that he had no place to stand on ; that he was sinking in a bottomless abyss. It was hard to find* out what were really the debts of Egypt, for the Khedive had an ingenious sys- tem of bookkeeping — a kind of “double entry” — by which a large part of what came into the treasury went into his own private purse, while debts that were incurred were charged to the State. To disentangle this confused mass of accounts, seemed almost hopeless. To meet these debts, resources of every kind were gone ; the Khedive had taxed the coun- try till it could bear no more ; he had wrested everything from his miserable people ; and thus at the same moment had exhausted his resources at home and his power of bor- rowing abroad. It were useless and sickening to follow this steady de- scent from one depth to another lower still. It is enough to recognize the peculiar and extraordinary circumstances out of which rose the Anglo-French Control, of which we have heard so much. This was an arrangement by which the finances of the country were placed in the hands of French and English Controllers, who were to collect the taxes and pay the interest on the debt. This has been very severely criticized. I confess I do not like it either in principle or in EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. 9 practice. Partnership in business may be a "wise manage- ment of affairs, but partnership in government does not work so well. An alliance of two countries which join to control a third, is a sort of double-headed monster, which has no more place in government than in nature. Nature abhors monsters, and so does wise diplomacy or legislation. Especially a joint action between two countries so jealous of each other as France and England, was sure to' result sooner or later in misunderstanding and mischief. Besides, there was an injustice in the thing to which it is very hard to reconcile our American ideas. To make the best of it, it was an anomalous arrangement — one to which neither England nor France, and least of all America, would submit for an instant. Suppose, because English bankers forty years ago lent money on Pennsylvania bonds, which did not prove very remunerative, England should say “Now we will come in and administer the finances of Pennsylvania for a few years ’until our bondholders are paid in full, principal and interest, with a liberal commis- sion for collecting bad debts, and after that we will give the control back to you,” she would receive an answer that would be quite intelligible. This is the charge that is made against England : that she has used all the weight of her national authority to collect debts, and not even debts owed to herself, but to private capitalists, to speculators, who if they lend money to a State like Egypt at enormous interest, ought at least to take their own risks, and not come to the Government to help them out of a bad bargain, for which they have nobody to blame but themselves. But I do not quite understand the matter so, nor that the Anglo-French Control was imposed upon Egypt by foreign power without her consent and against her w ill. It was Ismail Pacha who invited the help of England and France to get him out of his financial difficulties. He had 10 EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. got to the end of his rope. Nobody would lend him a shilling. Then it was that England and France said “We will try to raise you up and set you on your legs again, if you will let us manage the finances. Europe will have con- fidence in us, but it will not in you.” This was a pretty hard - bargain, but it was the only one that could be made ; and bad as it was in principle, yet anything was better than levy- ing taxes (and double taxes) by the bastinado. The change brought immediate relief ; the country began to revive. The burden of taxation was still heavy, but at least the peo- ple knew what to depend upon : that they were only to be taxed once a year, and the taxes to be collected at a regular time, and in a regular way. There were no more bastinado- ings to extort money. Confidence returned ; Egyptian bonds rose in all the markets of Europe. But the Control had to deal not only with an impoverished country, but with an imperious and intractable master. Ismail was quite will- ing that they should come in to relieve him from embar- rassment, and to put such a plausible show on his affairs as should enable him to borrow more money ; but he had no idea of their placing a check on his extravagance ; and so, after chafing for awhile under the restraint, he finally flew into a passion, and told the Controllers to go about their business, and he would manage the finances himself, upon which they appealed to their Governments, who addressed themselves to the Sultan, who joohtely told the Khedive to go about his business, who thereupon embarked with his harem for Naples, where for three years he has had abun- dant leisure to contemplate the situation. That, in short, is the whole story of the Anglo-French Control. It was certainly an awkward arrangement, but still, as a temporary expedient, it did immense good. But like many other good things, it ran into an abuse. The Egyptians felt that it was pretty hard to have to pay EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. 11 interest on a debt of nearly a hundred millions sterling, contracted at an enormous discount, of which the country had received probably not more than fifty per cent. But this was not all. The Controllers, finding that they had what some would call “ a fat place,” imported a swarm of foreign officials, to whom they gave the other “fat” places in the financial administration. No sooner was it fairly established in power, than it virtually took possession, not only of the Control of the Finances, but of all the de- partments of the Government. In the household of the Khedive there were French and Italian secretaries and masters of ceremonies, while Englishmen were employed on the railways and in the postal service. There was the same mingling of nations in the departments of jus- tice and of the interior ; in the army and in the police ; in the arsenals and military schools ; in short, every- where. A list carefully prepared showed that there were nearly fourteen hundred foreign officials employed in one post and another in the Egyptian Government. A large part of these obtained their positions by the removal of native officials, who in many cases were quite as well qualified as these foreign intruders. General Stone said to me, “ Here come these English and French Controllers, who have not only taken the great offices to themselves, with enormous salaries, but have placed under them a large number of foreign subordinates. As one illustration of what they are doing, they have in many instances removed the Copts, who have been scribes in the land from the days of Joseph, and who were the best men to be found for the minor posts of the government, to do the work of special bureaus in the different departments, and filled their places with Englishmen imported from India — ‘old Indians’ — who have been worn out in that country, and now find Egypt a new field of operations. These swarm upon us 12 EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. like a plague of locusts, and eat out the substance of the land. No wonder that intelligent Egyptians are indig- nant.” This testimony might be received with some abate- ment, because General Stone had been for years the Chief of Staff to the Khedive, and his sympathies were strongly with the Egyptians. But similar language was used by the American Consul and by all the American residents with whom I conversed. They felt that this virtual appro- priation of the government by foreign Controllers, was a gross abuse of trust ; that it was a “ spoiling of the Egyp- tians,” which they could only regard with disgust and in- dignation. Certainly it was a great injustice ; but let the blame fall where it belongs. The odium has been thrown upon England, when a careful inquiry shows that it was not the English but the French who took the lion’s share of the spoils. Not long since a paper was presented to the House of Commons, giving an accurate report of the number of British subjects in the service of Egypt, which, to the sur- prise of the public, showed that there were three or four times as many Frenchmen as Englishmen. Among the foreign officials it was found also that there was a large number of Italians, besides a libera! sprinkling of Germans, Roumanians, Greeks, and Syrians. While the French and English took the financial posi- tions, the Turks took the high places in the army. One cannot understand Egyptian politics without recognizing the fact that Arabs are not Turks ; indeed no two peoples regard each other with more intense dislike. They may unite to fight against the infidel ; but left to themselves, they would fight with each other, as they did in the days of Mehemet Ali. And yet as Egypt is subject to Turkey, all the best places in its army have been held by aliens, whom the Egyptians at once hate and despise. The EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. 13 poor fellaheen furnished the rank and file, hut all the offi- cers were Turks or Circassians. Thus the Egyptians were ground between the upper and the nether millstone. There was no place for them in the army except as com- mon soldiers, nor in any department of the Government. They could only be hewers of wood or drawers of water to their foreign masters. Out of this double or triple grievance — this Anglo-French-Turkish oppression — grew up the National Party of Egypt : a party which was in- spired chiefly by jealousy of foreigners, against whom it raised the rallying cry of “ Egypt for the Egyptians.” The first demonstration that brought Arabi Bey to the front as the leader of the National or military party, was not against the English or the French, but against the Turks. In making some promotions in the army, the Minister of War, who was himself a Turk, had given every position of importance to a Turk or a Circassian, utterly ignoring the Arabs, who naturally resented this public degradation, and against which Arabi, who was then but a Bey (a Colonel), and two others of the same rank, united in making a re- spectful but decided protest. For this remonstrance they were summoned to the Ministry of War. They obeyed, but suspecting foul play, left word with their regiments, if they did not return in two hours, to come and release them by force. At the War Office they were immediately placed under arrest, and as they did not return, their regiments, true to the command, appeared in arms and broke open the doors, and drove out the Minister of War, releasing their Colonels, and carrying them off in triumph. The Khedive, instead of punishing them, condoned their offence, and showed that he rather sympathized with their sense of wrong, by dismissing the obnoxious Minister. Of course a man who had thus bearded the lion in his den, became immensely popular with the army. He was 14 EGYPT IN THE SPRING OF 1882. regarded as the champion of his race. But his success was his danger, as it tempted him to resort on all occasions to military force. The next demonstration was a more for- midable one, being aimed not at an obnoxious individual, but at the whole Ministry, and even at the Khedive himself. On the 9th of September, Arabi appeared at the head of three regiments well armed, with batteries of Krupp guns, with which he marched to the Abdine Palace in Cairo, around which the troops formed with loaded cannon, while Arabi with his staff rode forward to the presence of the Khedive, who stood on the steps of the Palace, and who drew himself up with an appearance of calmness and courage, while the English Controller, who stood by him, leaned over and whispered to him that he should order the rebel to be shot ; but as the Khedive himself would have been blown to atoms in an instant, and his English adviser with him, he prudently refrained, and instead asked what