263 WILLIAMS (Theodore).— EDWARDS (Thomas) Gangraena : or a Cata- logue and Discovery of many of the Errours, Heresies, Blasphemies and pernicious Practices of the Secretaries of this time ... As also, a Par- ticular Narration of divers Stories, Remarkable Passages, Letters . . con- cerning the present Sects. 40 ; London, 1646. First Edition. In three parts, with separate titles. A very good copy. Red morocco, by Clarke. From the collection of the Rev. Theodore Williams. On the upper cover are his crest, motto and initials, on the lower his arms and crest ; both stamps are impressed in gold. Mr. Davenport gives a reproduction (p. 410) of one of Theodore Williams' stamps, but assigns it to a T. Wycliffe. This is apparently the copy recorded by Lowndes as having made /7/2/0 at the Williams sale. The date of the sale was 1827. £3l10/- FROM THE LIBRARY OF REV. LOUIS FITZGERALD BENSON, D. D, BEQUEATHED BY HIM TO THE LIBRARY OF PRINCETON THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY -ScB N7% Digitized by the Internet Archive in 2013 http://archive.org/details/gangraOOedwa \ - GANGRy^NA: . OR A Catalogue and Difcovery of many of theErrourSjHercfies, BJafphemies and perni- cious Prasfiices of che Sectaries of this time, vent- ed and atted in EngUnd in chefe four hft years : *AS ALSO, A Particular Narration of divers Storie^ Re- markable* Paffages, Letters-, an Extract of many Letters, all concerning the prefent Setts- ; together with (ome Obfervations upon, and Corollaries from all the fore-named Premises. By Thomas Edwards Minifter of the Go/pel. a Tim.? 8,9 How a* lames and iambres rcithftoodMofes, fo do thtft alfy reftjt the trwb : men of corrupt mindes, reprobate concerning the Faith, But Hky jhzll proceed no ]urtbir,for their foffy jliall be mantfe'ji to admen, ^ai theirs alfoTiv 05 2 Pet*? r3i. But there were falfe Prophets alfo among the people, even at the'e fba&befalfe Tea< b:r: among)oui who privily JbaH bring in damnable Hersfia » even deryirg i he Lord that bought them , and bring uf on the vofehies ■foift Jc 0 N, minted for R;l£b Smih, at the Signe of the Bible in Corn. hill nvar me Roy ilU Exchange. M* DC.XL V 1* 1 f "$P "& ^"^V ^ **V -&" i& iV t& 4r ifc ^ »fc t& -& *Jr -\V VJ' & ^ T Hat thou mayeft difcerne the mifchiefofEcclefiafti- call Anarchy, the monftroufneffe of the much affe- cted Toleration, and be warned to be wife to fobriety, and fear and fufpefrthe pretended New lights, I approve that this Treatife, difcovering the Gangrene of fo njany ftrange Opinions, (hould be imprinted, James CranfOkd. ^Sl^**^^ TO THE RIGHT HONOVRABLE THE LO%pS and COMMONS Aflembled in Parliament. ■ o Ri^ht Honourable and Noble Senatours, Here prefent you "frith a Catalogue, or BlackfBill of 'the Err ours > Herefies, Blafphemies and Prx- . Bices of the Setlaries of this time, broached and ailed within thefe fiur laft years in England, and that in your Quarters, and in places under your Government and Power, fir which I tremble to thinks left the Whole Kingdom Jhouldbe in Gods BlackJSill: I much ft ar left thefubjefl matter of this Catalogue may prove unto England ( unlejfe fimejpeedy and effcfluallcourfe be taken to pre- vent it) like the Bill of Divorce given to \[xit\\like the Roll of the Book commanded from God to be written by Jeremiah againft ]f- \CT'*f* rad and Judah ; like the Rollof aBoo\ fent by a hand to Ezekiel, Ezclc.i,9ti&. therein was written^ I ^mentations ', mourning and fto ; cr like the DaiM«* handwriting upon the -wall againft Belfhszzar; and the flying '* Roll in Zechariah, a curfe going over the f. ice of the -whole land. And unto whom, Right Honourable, Jhould I reprefent and make known thefe things, but unto You Vrho are the (iipreme Judicatory of this Kingdom ', having that fuffciency of Power, which only is able to remedy and redrejfe them, Who are our great Phyfi- cians> and have been wont to cure the worft maladies and A 2 difeafes The Epiflle Dedicatory. difeafes of our Church and State, Who are by Qodhimfelf ftiledGods, and there fire fhould above others lay to\ heart and be fenfible of the in> juries and dishonours done to God and hid name. ?*4nd I humbly pray your Honours to bear with me in my address this war, as having no ether means but this, of acquainting Tou with the fid slate of things in our Church : And yet 'tis neceffarypfou fbouldhear of thefe things, fir as 'tis fiid in the P raphe t J ^remiab, concerning the making of that Roll, It may be the houfe uf Judah will hear ail the evil which I pur- pose to do to them, that they may tume e?ery one from his evil way, it may be they will prefent their Implications before the Lord, that he may forgive their iniquity and their fin ; (o it may be fome good may come of this TZook^, to caufe an humiliation for , and a fuppreffton of her eft es andfehi/mes, as being a more free and full difco* very of our times then ever yet Was made, and therefore I fend it abroad in this way, Whereby it may be read by ail Judah : and I doubt not but fome faithfuU Baruchs3 Who are not /hut up, but do f reach before you on Faft dayes, Will cats fe you to hear the Words of this Bookjn the Lords houfe, by applying them to your confeiences, and ma' king them a £ atnlogue of fins fir matter of humiliation toyouonthofe dayes, {bowing how far they may become yours in (ujfering Without pu * mfhment and cenfure too many of them. <^And now, Noble and Worthy Senatours, be gracioujly pfeafed to pardon the boldneffe I Jhalltake in dealing plainly with you in this prefent Epiflle, and not to impute it to any malignity and dijaffetlion to yottr fervice, or to peremptory fiucineffe, and dafreffeU ofYou, ( fir befides that feme Worthy mew hers of Parliament to whom I am known can teftife the contrary, all my AElions ftom the beginning of your fitting, my Sermons, Prayers^ Praifes, 'Difcottrfes, filings for Tou fpeah^otberwife : 1 am one Who out of choife and judgement have imbark^d my felfe with Wifi3 children, estate, and all that s dear to me in the fame jhip with you, to finke and perijh, or to come fa ft to land with you, and that in the moft doubtftdl and difficult times, not only early in thefirft beginning of the War and trouble^ in a malignant place among Courtiers and thofe Who "Wirefervants &hc:drtlations to thKin7,f>)ueen & their child? e, plead* rngyour Caufe jhft'fying your Wars, fat tffying many that fcrupled: but 'When your affairs were at lo weft, and the chance of War againft you.and fome of the Cjrandees and favourites of theft times were pacing up, and reaiy tads. grney I was then highs ft and mo ft xjealmu for you ? preach- tnfs The Epiftie Dedicatory* ine .praying ftir ring up the people to ft and for you, by going cm inperfon^ lending of money ^ in the Uter going before them by example - And as I have been jour Honours mofl devoted fervar.t, fo am I jltllyours, and you cannot eafily tcfe me ; and I do l umbly lay my fe if and Book^ at the fret of your Veifdome and piety, fit knitting both to your pleafure ) but to the matter a*dconienis of thii 7>ook^. and to the pre Cent ft ate cf things, 1 am bound and ftirred in fpirit, to fee thcpecplefo given to er- rour and fchifme, and the zeal of Qodshoufe and glory confirainsme, and I can no longer forbear sfeaiing my ft hole heart to you. The eviU of this kjnde are grown tofuch a height as there ii no more time for fi* lence, or for being afraid, but of crying out and peaking plainly • And J am corf dent when your Honours have read over rny Boc\ ( \vhkh I humbly defire you in the far of God, and for the glory ofChrifi to do, 06 Luther bespeaks the reading of an Epiftie of hi* ) that will be ajufl 9s4pologie with you for my freenejfe and boldneffe. 0 the evil ofthefe times would put zeal into the heart of any many Vcho hath any love to the glory ofGod.his truth, and the fouls of people, and make the flam-meting tongue to$e*\freely3yea the dumbe tojpeak^avdcry out. Crcefus (on Vtko was borne dumbe, )Xhen he faw one going to hill ha father ,fpahe and cried cut,0 kill not Crce* us. ^And nor? Vrhcn our Father ^ur Saviour and bleffed Spirit are wounded by damnable here fres and blasphemies, and many precious fouls deftroyed, canWebefley.t ! 0 cur fed bethi file nee and flattery that u in fu ch a time as t hit ; For now things are grown to a f range paffef though not hint is novo fir ange.^ and every day they grow worfe ay.dwerfe.and ycu can hardly conceive and imagine them fo bad as they are, no kmde of blafphemy , herefie, diforder, con." fifion, but either is fund among ii, or aceming in upon m, fir VQe in- Read of a Reformation, are groan from one extreme to another y fallen from Scylla to Charibdis, from Popijo innovations, Sh- ferslitions, and Prelaticall 'Tyranny, to damnable Herefies, horrid Blasftemies, Libertinifme and fearfull Anarchy^ our evils are not removed and cured, but only changed, one difeafe and Devil hath left us, ani another as bad is come in the room • yea.this lafl extremity into which ttv are fallen, is far more hLh,'iiolcnt anddangerom in many re- sfecls ; ad Xthich in an Epiftie cannot be contained, but are laid down in the following Booh^in many places, fpecially in the eleventh Cor allay y. Luther in an Epislle to bpalatir.HS, calls Want cf free- dome in a Minister, irrCffliffibilc pescatotp, an unpardonable ;J#, The Epiftle Dedicatory. and fiience in the negle fling of truths a kicked fiience \ and in an Epi* ftk co Stmp'uvasfaiih, Let me b: fojnd any thing, a proud man, an a Julterer, murderer,and guilty of all wickedneffe, fo as I be not convi&wd of wicked flienee whilft the Lord Offers, The conjidera- t ion of 'which > makes me well contented to run the venture of being ac- &un red proud, fancy , peremptory, and of incurring the hazard of your Aifple after e by freaking fee 'ly (though I hope better things) then to let the glory and honour of Chrifl and his truth fuffer any longer by my fi- lence ; For I call the moft High CJOD to Vokneffe,that((ofar as I know my own heart ftohat freedom I here ufe, in laying open the flats of things before you fs not out of any fimfter rejpeSis, or any pie a fur e I take in this liberty (for I have had many car nail reafonings and conflicts in my fpirit apainft it ) but only out of the great neceffity of the times, moved there* un lo cut of love andz,ealto the glory of Cjod and his truth,my faithfully tjeffe to your Honours, ccmpaffion to the fouls of thofe for whom Chrifl died^ and the delivering of my own foul in the difcharge of my con* Jcience, Great Perfons, as Princes, Nobles and Counfe/iours, Tantis&tamcxi- through their high places, multitude of affairs, flatteries, are fubjefi, mijs virruiisot- to great failings and infirmities, as both Scriptures, and all Hiftories ?umCBpMcSpas foevf : ^m {^ ^^ been ^e ?ra!fe an^ honour offome of them, that tum imperator : upon being minded by faithfull Miniflers of their faults, they have mh™?Ztenmd' laidit to heart, IhQQMCvas that Noble Smperour ha* many infirmities, propter ingenuam as that crue/I fall of hid again fi the inhabitants of TielXalonica, as lem?ritcrumrOTo- &** ^€tng angrJ 0Mt of me afire againfl tije people e had before ? Were any of t ho fie rwmfier-S heard cf heretofore, which f.re now common amort (f sis ? as dennnr the Scriptures .pleaiing fior a Toleration of all Religions and \\ 'or '(hips 9 *jeafor b la fphemy and denying there is a God, You have put down *Boo\wtit.Tola£ the Book, of Common grayer : and there are many among us have x'™n I"^5i?rS put down the Scriptures, fieighting, yea blasfiheming them. You have ^"unuary, broken down Images of the Trinity, Chriftfi/irgin 1shry,Apoftles:and Vve have thofie Vvho overthrow the 'Do Brine of the Trinity \oppofie theDi* vinity of Chrifl, sfieakjvil of the Virgin Mary ,fleight the Apoflles.You have caft out the'Bifhops and their Officers: and we have many that' caft down to the ground all Alinislers in all the Reformed (fhurches* You have caft out Ceremonies in the Sacraments^ as the Croffe, kneeling at the Lords Supper : and Vve have many caft out the Sacra- wsnts, rBaptifime and the Lords S upper % You have put down Saints dayes : and V?e have many make nothing at all of the Lords dayes} and J aft dayes. You have taken away the fuperfluous exceffive mainte. nance of the Bifhopj, Deans : and We have many take away and cry down the neceffary maintenance ofi the Minifters. In the Bi[hops dayes We hadfinging of ? (alms tykgn away in $me places, conceived prayer i ., The Epiftle Dedicatory, prayer, preaching,and in their room, Anthems, flinted forms and read- ing brought in ; and new we have fining of *? films fpoken aqainfl andcafl out of fome Churches y yea all publike prayer queftioned, and all mimfieriall preaching denied. In the Btfhops rimes ^Popifh lnn$~ vatUns were introduced, as bomngat Altnrs,dcc, and now we have anointing the jickjfith Gyl; thence had Bifbopping of children, now Vve have Bijhopping of men and Women }by flrange laying on of hands, as it re Lied in this following Book. In the 'Bijhops dayes W* had many unlearned Mimfters, and have we not now a company of Jerebo- 2U1S Priefls! In the Bijhops dayes we had the fourth Commandment t?Men away, but now We have all ten (Commandments at once by the Aminomians ; -yea all faith and the (jojpel denied, as by theSeek^ ers. The worfl of the Prelats,in the midsl of many cPopifi> Arminian tenets, and Popijh innovations, held many found do Urines, and had * Calvmi Inftru- many commendable frattices \ yea the very * Papifls hold and keep to> aio AdverfusLu many Articles of faith and truths of Cjod, have (time order among paTcou '***' them, encourage learnings have certain fixed principles of truth, Vtith pratlices of devotion aid good Works $ but many ofthefe&sand fitlaries in our day&s^-deny all principles of Religion, are enemies to all holy Unties .Order, Learnings overthrowing all, being vertiginoli {pivmis^whirlegigg spirits ; and the great opinion of an univerfallTo' leration, tends to the laying all wafte, and dijfolution of all Religion a id good manners. Now are not thefe Srrours^ Herejies andSchifmes, Ifots and blots in our Reformation? ds they not blemifh and caff a dark^ Jhadow upon all the light part ? are they not the dead flies in the Apothecaries ointment, fendig forth aftinking (avour ? are they not the reproach and rejoicings of the common enemy? the fcandall of the Veeaks the blajing-siar of the times ? And are not Sell: oriel firangely fujfered, connived at , keeping open meetings in t-he. $ » M Sahmalh heart of the City? yea printing With *Licenfi their erroneous opj&iefc Smoak b the and daring to give into feme of your hands fuch'Books as *tis afhame tempte, invhich *o sheak of? beinv let Co alone, that they are vr own up tD many then- ars pme defter at* ,. -\ , / < „.'s ,^ •v./i • r» i i- ft errmm. /anas both m City and Comtrey. C"rir tn RcfCl. J. 1 9. highly S,o*Ab3ui9*- commends the Anvel of the Church of Tbyatira for his works, fer* ptiCme, and fiawx* , .. . . * nJ . it, /• r rr mxin'fttAKce by vtce, faith, patience ,8>CCt but yet reproves dnd threatens mm for ]uj~ Titfa Jewifh *nA fer'Vif without punifbment faife do Brines to betuwht, and diforders ™ to bepr«3ifcdin the (fhurch : But I havs a bw tmngs againlt the?, Uc>u(^ t\km fvff.refi; that woman Jezebel, which .caUetbbsr fdfe The Epiftle Dedicatory. felfc a Prophetcfle, to teach and to (educe my fervants : and be f leafed to ebferve what truth that Scripture holds out, namely* that A connivence and (ufiering without punifbment falfe Ti6clrinc$ and(I>iforders, Terfins to preach Vckom God hath not -called, and to preach Errours, Herefies, blemifies and dafhe; the mo ft gforio works, and provokes Cjod to fend judgements ; a Toleration doth eclipfe And darken the glory of the mos} excellent Reformation, G accounts all thofe err ours, herefies^ fchifmes,&c% committed in a lxndi but let alone, and fu fired without puniflment by thofe Who have autho' rity and power, to be the fins of thofe who have power, and he Will proceed againft them as if they were the authours of them. zA man comes to be partaker of other mens fins, by countenancing* confent- ing and fu firing without funifimenr, a* Well as by formally committing them. * Solomon in I King.xi.from ver,itto 15. U Accounted by Qod to be guilty of aU the Idolatry committed by his J^j^jjjj Vvives and their followers, and accordingly God ii angry with hin-Lj nodal. Script. << ■! and threatens him, becaufe being a King, he had power in hi* hands to ^cv!fzad^fjm^^ kinder it, not that Solomon did brings into the houfe of God Idols, cap.7.dc$oio' er ever commanded the people to for Jake the WcrfiipofGsd and to ^0^^"™^ Vrorfhip Idols, or that he did in his own per fin worjhif Idols; This iDtroiuxiffe aut only is certain, that he fuffered them to build Altars, and facrifice to ^miCfc id°- Jtrange gods: Epnef.5.12. tu toe command of God, to nave no ncqj adegitfe po- fellowship with the unfruitfull works of darkneffe, that is, J?!™ °J,vd ;Ci not by confenttng, helping, imitating andjujferingttjem without re- kterenr, vcicoie- proof; Now aCMagiftrates reproving, is by ufing coercive power to pCr^b,d?1:MK<^ funifh and fuppre fie evils, as is evident in the example of old Eli to his eum in fua pro. Cons, Who though he did reprove by words, yet becaufe he pumped them \u* Pcrfo,na C(5- not, he was partaker oj thetrjins, and was feverely pmt(rcdby God for Hoc tamum ccr. it, j Sarn.2. 23,24,25. cbapt. 3.13,14. Now,Riqht Honourable, ?"" c« dc ejus though Jou hold none of theje Opinions tpraltije not theje wayes, neither infatuates a m;i- command any of the fe things, but have put cut Declarations, wherein 1,5tlbus Molola- there are (ome parages againft Anabapt'ifts, Brownifls and other fells, euconftrucife and made Orders and Ordinances for the preventing and remedy- Aquinas ?» ingof many of thefe evils >y as that Oraerof Febr.io',!^. That Mi- iL^oflolitc nilters fufrcr none to preach in the places where they have charge, communfcare but fuch as they will be anfwerablefor; as the Ordinance againft j™andp?coHfcn- the preaching of Perfons not ordained in this or fome other Reformed tjendoSed certc Church ; as the Ordinance of not printing without Licenfe ; yea upon nfruSico/^ a Complaint icprehcndatis. The Epiftle Dedicatory. complaint have queftioned and troubled fome Sectaries for their Sr- rours and pernicious Pratlices ; yet notwithftanding there is aftrange unheard of 'fit {firing and bearing with them, andfuch a one as J beleeve alt things confidered, never was there the like under a-*y Orhodox Chri- stian Magiftrate and State, How do feEls andfchtjmes increafe and grow daily, Sectaries doing even what they will, committing infolencies and outrages, not only agdmft the truth of God and the peace of the ' £hptrch} but the Civil ft ate alfo, going up and down Countries, caufing riots, yea tumults and difturbances in the publike Affemblies l how do perfons c aft out of other Countries for their 8rr 'ours \ not only live here; but gather (^hurches \ preach publihely their Opinions ! what /warms are there of all forts of illiterate mechanic kfPreachers, yea of vide Petit, of the Women and Boy Treacher* ! Vvhat a number of meetings ofSetlaries Lord Maicr;**l in this (ft ty, eleven at leaft in oneParifhi tyhat liberty of preaching, tlTo/ttcwof printing of all errours, or for a Toleration of all, and again ft the Vi- LondootprefeHted retlory, Covenant, monethly Faft, Prefbyteriall Government ; and all f/wiS. Ordinances of Parliament in reference to Religion, and moft of thefe perfons cither never queftioned at ad, or if queftioned, abufingthofe in a high manner ^ho queftion them, coming eff one way or other, and afterwards goings on in Jpreading their errours more then before, or if committed by fome below, whereby they are hindred from preaching and dipping, then brought off and releafed by fome above ( of which they bragg andhoaft ) yea many Sectaries countenanced, imployed and preftrd to (feciall places b&th of profit, honour and try ft ^ and that which ujaddeft of all ( and yet too true ) Orthodox Worthy per fens, who being w places of Power, fir \reventingmif chiefs and evils queflioning fome Sectaries for their unlaw full meetings and falfe DoEirines, have been lookt upon ever after with an evil eje^nd opportunities watcht to mole ft and difpUce them. In a word, there hath not been to this day any exemplary reftraint of the Se claries ( as ever I heard) by vert ue of any of your Ordinances, but they are fleighted and fcorned, and as it Wat formerly with the Kings Proclamations again ft the Jefuttf, Priefts, Papiftsy and forbidding to go to Md people in City andCountrey, by Whofe means under Cjod, you are now (o flrongand. lifted up above your enemies, are grieved, offended, and much difcoura* ged, tiie tommon enemy fc ernes %b la ff hemes andreproaches tfje Refrm* ation looking upon m at given up to affirit of giddineffe and errour* The Afalignants every Where turne Setlarics and Independents^ Ji* ding with them and pleading their can fe ; and they do wifely, there be* ing no fitch Way as that to five their purjesjhe quietly , and to under- mine you andejfetl the Enemies worke, And What canyon tijinke Will be the ijfue of thefe dAngs ? It is high time doer e fire for your Honours to awake and be doing, to fiifftr no longer faefe Se cis and S cktfmcs ,theps diforders and coxfujtons that are in the midft of us, but to fall upon fame effetluallwayes, as you hi your great 'Wifcdomes flail jwdeout, md to do fome thing worthy a Parliaments in this kinde alfo* Do thu And God ken your right hand to helps you , And yon jhaM not beremo* ved 9 The Epiftle Dedicatory. ved for ever, the Kingdom of Scotland, the Reformed Churches^ this great City with the Minifters to ft and by you and to honour you : Ve it not, but let things ft ill run on thus, and all k^nde of err ours, confuftons , &€• increaft, and know Qod is a righteous Qod, end •will require it at your hands, vijit and be avenged fir thefe things, sAnd let no man fatter you With your great prosperity and fucceffe, that jour mountain is now (o ftrong that jou Jhall never be moved, but remember that God is a Qod changing the times and feafon?, that Dan,***, removes Kings and izis up Kings, that can quickly bring down r>™. 5.3 ,4,5,*, that part of the Wheel below which was higheft, that made a fudden change to Belfhazzar in an hour: ThatQodWho is {aid to feat ter pfa}<58,j4 Kings , can fcatter you: Lookjipon the Court party , the great CounfeU lours of ft ate, and Prelates •, Whofe height Was like the height of the Cedars, and were ftrong as the Oaks, yet the Lord deftroyed their fruit from above, and their root from beneath 1, and cannot he do fo to you? I befeechyoufiar, confdering the great dishonour of Qod and his name, and the fid ejlate of things under your Government^ left God bring fome great afterclap upon you, and have an after reckoning* either giving you up at laft to the hands of thofe that are now in armes againft you, or fending an evil fpirit of divifien among your felves and the two Nations, or making ufe of the Setts ( that party when grown slronger, wbo have been fo much fuffered te grow under you,) to become thorns in your fides, and pricks in your eyes, to caft You out, and to teach you new Law and newcDivinity, as they have done already in many of their Books (as En glands Birthright, A Letter from an Utter Barretter, A Letter, calht finglands lamentable fhvery, Lilburns Letters to M* Prynn, to a Friend, Tnnocency and Truth j unified, cum multis ahjs,) or by fending fome other judgement, as the i7Jcftilencei£cc. ( all Which / carneftly pray Qod to prevent.) And truly when I thinke of thin? s by.my felfe, and behold to what a height Err ours, Herefies,fkc. are ome, andwithall reflett upon the qrejtt thiugs Qod hath done for you, the many power ftdl Sermons you have had preached be fire you about the Nationall Covenant, and againft the Setts, the many Petitions rerrefenting the evil and danger of the je things, and yet how little u done y our evils of this kinde rifina higher and hi oh* er, in the increafe of falfe do chines, and a greater multiplica- tion of fchifmes every day ..then other • I tremble for fear 7 left for the * 3 want The Epiftle Dedicatory. want of zeal in fuffering fo many difhonour/ofgod, and his houfe to lie fo long watte, the Word be gone out of hid mouth already which he tfake againft Eli 5 I hid indeed that thy houfe, and the houie of thy Father fhould walke before me forever: but now the Lord faith ; Bs it farre from me, for them that honour m: I will ho- nour, and they that defpife me fhall be lightly efteemed. But to draw towards a conclufton, theres no other way to prevent ak thii Wrath., but to be zjealous And repent, to do fomething sfeedily and effectually again ft the Err ours, Herefies, Schifmes, Ulajphemies and Cenjupons of the fe times. Ob Ttutif any fhatlobje El, It cannot be done now, it will dif content And difingage the SeElaries who are a Considerable party, andfo may prove danger om to the Parliament in thisjuntlure of time, by caufing many to fall off their Service. Anf. Are We afraid of difcontenting, difingaging andlofing a few men, and not of difcontenting andlofing God \ fhall Cfodbe diff leafed to pie afe men I Jball We fear the want of mans helpe whofe breath U in hisnoslrits, and not ft or Cjodl O that We would once ceafe from mant for Wherein u he to be accounted of ? Secondly I anfwer, Thii objection is taking counfell, but not ofQod, ifa 30. r. # covering, km net of Gods Spirit ; thii carnallpolicie offuffering cor* ruptionsm Religion for fear of lofing apart] and strengthening King- do ms^ hath pro ved t he ruin of families and Kingdoms ; be pie afe d to re* Wmatfavi^ct member ]&ohoam,]Qhv9&c.Wko out of policie for fear of lofa idem valcntinfa. ty and ftrengtkening the other fide, fct up andfuffered the golden halves inUocfXtcim^^?n>//; of the* loweft of the people, and thu very thing became a chriitianos quam fnare,andths lojfe ofthe Kingdom to them ; and I might flow out of Ec- quis vdlct fidem ciefJftiCall Hift cries many examples of fad thinqs befalling Princes, smpieai atqj pro ' ■> / . / ,, rf ci i >*V j ,, , rr ci a bitrio barcfes Who out of policies or dry car nail refpects have (upred all J 'oris of felts confeQAri, A; an£ herefies.but I will only inftance in one out of* Baronius, oj Valen- oiftu1* declaravir* tlnizuus fenior , Whofufferedin the weft the Chriftians to embrace what dpoenimfiliifa- jaith every one of them would^ and to follow what herefies they pie afe d, tioneVeCJiimni but how well. andfafely the end of it declared, for both bisfons were flam necati Sunt Ora- ^ thefaBion and treachery ofthe Gentiles, Gratim by Max'ixius, Va- v2?nrinianas^ii' Aentinian junior was firangled in a halntr : *sind ytt afterwards the niorlaqaeofttan-- fame Emperoxr by ediSi commanded the houfe s and places Where the ^om'^jifZ7^ iJWAMhcs met, to h confiscate. 2 C hron.2 % . 'tisftcried 0/Amaziah, mm *<, x%a: he had hired a hundredthoufcnj mighty men of valour for a hun~ dred The Epiftle Dedicatory. dred talents offtlver, but a man of God came to him to difwiffe his Ar* my gamely that fart of it the children fl/Epbraim, and told him in an* 2 cferon/2 5.7,8,?. fwer of his carnall obetlions, that God had -power to help and tocaft down ; and for bis hundred talent sy the Lord wot able to give him much more then this : fo fay I, whoever or what number 3 foever fhalldsfert the Parliaments Army and Service for their fuppreffingthe feels, and putting in execution their own Ordinances, God hath power to he/pe, andcafldown, and is able to caufe many more thenthefe to adhere to them ; and no que/Hon, befides Cjods helpe andbleffmg which ufes tc ac- company fetling true Religion, and deflroyingfalfe • the hands of the Kingdom ^/Scotland would be the more ftrengthened,the City 0/Len- don, the Minifters and all who love truth, peace and order, wzuld adhere more firmly, and the Parliamtnt would be both ftronger, and make themfelves famous both at home and abroad to all generations Thirdly^ fuppefing the Sectaries to be of potent at is fa/fly furmifed by them - felves, yet I humbly conceive it ftands not with the Honour, Tower, wifedome nor piety of a 'Parliament for fear oflcfmg a party, to be afraid of maintainingtheir own Ordinances, and punifhing t ho fe things that they know are bad ; Infucha cafe fax ju(titia,ru:t CCelutBi Fourthly, the fons of Zeruiah aremtnow too hard for you, Cjod hathmzde you ftronger then ever, by giving you many glorious vitlories, battel! upon V^\fiZe ,0-ft'^' > battell. and one ftrong hold after another, fo that if any will fall off from Dedicat, to roc* you for dome your duties you need not care • and Who knotves but that HighCoH/i of a 1 r ■ n > • r i n r r i • Parhsmemjn bu allthefe victories are fent to takeaway ail excufe, to anfwer tmsobje- Bo»k-imii.Ahdh tlion, and to encourage you to thuWorke *y God inforces upon turning Difcoveyof the dayes effacing into frails, therefore to love the trir h and peace*; and from deliverances to pay our vows, and make good our Covenants, as in Z.ch.S.i?, NaupM.15,16. Pfal.i&i 4,17,1 8,19 And thus having in fome poormeafure difcharged my conference towards ~C/od, your Honours andthi* Kingdom, in t he D if 'cover y made in thx IJQo&f many fetls and Sectaries] I leave the i(j ue andfuccejfeto Cjcd, humbly taking my leave^D? Holland that learned man and Dollar of the Chair in Oxford Wat wont to do of his Colledge upon going iouwies.f tying, I cumenend you ro the ioveofGod and hatred of vita.HoHana« Popery ; fo do Icomrrend both Houfes of Parliament rothe love of gJSSfoSl; , God and histru?b,and the hating ofallfeSs and fchifmes, carneft* odiofrapacu** Ij praying to god, that not.e of the things which Ton and fte have caufe to fear may come upon You aad the Kingdom, but that Qod would ' mercifully ,. The Epiftle Dedicatory. mercifully pardon that too great fuffermg, countenancing, fpreading and prevailing of err ours, Herefies and Schifmes Which hath been in this Kingdom thefefour laft years ,and would fli you withfuch a love and z>eal to his truth and houfe, that you Might thorowly purge out a& things that offend, andcaufe thefalfe Prophets and the unclean fpir its te pa ffe out of the land, fpeedily and effeclually lay the top *ftone upon the building, the foundation whereof you have laid long ago, fully fettle t'hi* Church and the (government of it, thereby V?e may be brought into one, and become terrible as an Army With banners , and like a siren? and fenced City, both againfl fchifmes that may arifefrom within, and the ajfaults of enemies without. Tour Honours humble and mo ft de voted ferv ant, Thomas Edwards The 'Preface^. N the laft week of ?#« if ever they intended it) and now being without ail hopes of any ^jSZ?^ Reply from them ( chere being none in the Preile, as I can iearn ) Iruffrhvuu but rather 'tis given out by the Apologifts themielves, and their vS^vcma. neereft friends, that fur peace lake they foroare it ( winch let them "'*» «■ Barton* beleeveitthatwill,Idonoc ) I (ball Wake no longer, but am re- d^WA. folved to appear again in publike againit theerrours of the time, Catamnx^srrain^ and to let forth Tradaces and Diicounes upon iiich SubjVcb JwSiSJs ai>r and Points, as I conceive may make moit for the glory of God, the ?™?M". peace of this Church, and be mod (eatonabie for theprefentne- ceflity, be of vis die* in die fa 0. I have all this while, out of choife and upon ferious deliberation, declined the Jetting forth any Tra- ctate of the Controveriies ct the time (although 1 have been by Learned men oft call'd upon, yea.earneiily iollicited thereunco,kft the Apologifts,or lome other for chem, ftiould have taken occaflon B by The Prefaces. b Caiumny Ar- r-aigntd and C*Jl, Or* ^4n Antoet to M.Prins Truth Triumphing over Fa.tjhood,paa\\. But for any fuch una ifirerab'r/i'JJe at M. Pnn in- tends,the o-6*6o,6ii66. Matth. p.. 14,15 ,16,17. and yet Chrift endured contradiction of (inners, and barewitntfle to the truth. Paul tot oppofing falfe teachtis, and theerrours which had crept into the Church of Corinth and GaUtia, met with great reproaches, bad reports, not only from the falle Apoftles, but from many of the people, infomuch as they counted Paul an enemy, paffed judge- men c on him, and fpake contemptibly of him, GaL^.\6,ij. 2. G< -r.io,io 11. 1 CV.4. $,8 9,10,1; 14 And yet Tanl count- ed it a Imall thing to be judged,3tid could take pleafure in reproach- in'IaiScm '^ban. es, in neceliities, in perleomons, in diftreflcs fur Chnits take, e luzuft. cpUt 2 Cor. 1 2.10. and none of theie things moved him, to he might /toguH^gr^u- fiuiili his courfe with py, and the minittcry which he received, to hnt,iiii quod be- teftifle the (Soip.lof ine^raceof C^od, -ids 20.24. d AthanAfim teticorum omni n r » i • i i n • i • 'i ■ ummeruirodiuin, *or oppoiuig the A nans and detecting their wayes, was conipi- quoJqMdemgau- pCC| againttyiccutcd and purlued wkh an uniupportable hatred j and e!& cpoimune.0 3ec ^e Wcnc on WiA great zeal and courage againft the whole Be Donatifits po- world, which at one time w as made Anan, lo that he was refem- EiqSfigUum kied ^y the Fathers to an Adamant, for his enduring all things maiom pi.uiae Auguftme and Hierom, both or them, for preaching and writing d dc«aantur!C & againft hcreticks and Ichilinaticks, especially Donatifts, iufrerca mc par, proic- gaany reproaches, and yet tejuyced, counting their lufferings a qaos^iistt- ^ne c* ^ov greater glory; as c Hurvme writing to At4gnftine, cyeum, votoin« congratulates A«g»ftine fordelerving the hatred of all hereticks, SSSlrtS loc. which he rgoyced was common to himlelf with him, and that spm. dt villus which is an argument of the greater glory, all hereticks do deteft dNaxzanx.Ont The Preface. you, and perfecute me alfo wich the like hatred, that whom they h*™*™» ™>n &*- . ... runt obfeuri viri l Okftius cnim in rdt lefsentia -am fcriptis clarm fuerat Iiilianm Bj lfcopui Cai^panie opinjoneerudiuonisdaru* habebator, & tempoie famii omnia (uacjogavit in paupetrcs, m.ds p'unrr.os Jk nobiles & religiofos hbiadiunxic. Et 3 dpi ius Seven* magna: auSo ita is vu a Pcbgio (cdu&jseli. bxttani f-piOoia; Piofpcri & Hilatijad ftugufti- nurc, in c^mbus fenbitur, quod multi qui pnmo lace;dorii honorc Itipereminebanr, Augufljnum rcprchcndcrinr q»afi fmccaufa n:miserfec vche icm, & cauf^rn mmis acntei a-;?rct. later ipfos etiam Auauftici auditore: nou cmncs dc&rinam eius de hoc loco recte & dextre accipiebanr* Vi^C ibiplura. Luther, as his name was hatef ull to the Papifts, fo 3lfo to the fe- claries of that age : ZThomajs Muxcer,ont of the fir ft preachers and ringleaders of the Anabaptitts (Luther having had fome conflicts with him,and others of that led) put forth fome writings,where- in he did pour out his rage and fury againft Luther, reproaching Luther, that he wanted a fpirit of Revelation, and lavoured only carnall outward things ; and after h Luther had reproved Maneer for his opinion of liberty and the wayes he went in, he fet himltlf againft Lutht r,thundring out rayl-ng ipeeches, faying that Luther did equally offend as the Pope of Rome, yea that Luther was worfe then the Popchimfeif, promulgating only a carnall Gofpelj but Luthtr all his dayes, boch againft the Papifts and ieffanes, Shwenckfcldians, Antmomians, Anabaptifts, ROtwithftanding ail reproaches, went en with courage and rejoicing. Lather -e- fteemed tvil (peikmgs as Mneat faming him \ Luther was afraid of praileSjbur rej >yed m reproaches and biafphemies. k JTis enough to me,f aith Lather ji I pleaie Chnft my Lord and his Saints; I do from my heart re Joyce and give thanks to my God, that I am hate- ful! to the devil and* ah his icalcs. I am certain,iaith Luther, that the truth of God cannot be rightly handled and maintained with- in g.» OUX *Kltlch.Ad*m, vi.aL&topag.uS, b Freder. S}stt~ h rrij Dia t'\te Hiftor deotig. progrcT Scdis & nomijAnabap- Ciftarum, i Blafr hernias Ism* cibus & fagina mihi; maior eft m h. & timer in laiidibusgaudium vcro inm-lediflis & btafphemiis. k Mihi fati< eft H Ch :fto doivino reo ii fiiis f^i;- Stis, pkcuc'-o, (cpatpis intiftirn n e cfieex animc la:ror>& grat a$ ago UcomcOv J he Prefaces* Indies rna^is mihi placet* & fupci- bus fio,qi)od vi« dco nomen pcf- fimum milliard, • cere, Luth. Tantisenim con- vitiis virum be- ne de (e metitum oxrare nebulo non dubitavit,ut apologia fatisfa- cere iratribusha- blierit necefle. Me'cb. *Adamt vita ZuingHti fag.xo. Metch xAdam. \l- ta,:£alvifti,pag,9it 109,110. Bez* Apologia pro Calvino convi- tiatorc. Rogo modem if- fixosiflos homi- nes, quibus nimis incaldecre vi- demur quicunqj ipforum more non frigent>ot pro quo,& in quern d earurpai-1-j at- tentius expen- dant, neq} hetoi- eosiftob I'piritus ex ifigenio iuo me-ia itur. Talvinusiuexo- fusfuit,uta!uui fuis G-inibos Cal vim nomenim- fT>nerent,alii Cal vinum in Cainum t»ansformarenr, non pavci iliius cdo abliiuere (c 9 catna Domini teftabantur Vita Calvini a Bcza.. Hoc decrerum quurrs ttfer Cal *inonnnci3-iiin- cette in iuit ft bn- romibas fervivif- (em tnab mihi raercC3teiG>l.c- out envy and danger, and this is the only figne that it hath been rightly handled, if it offend ; 1 do daily more and more pleafe my felfe, and am proud that I fee a bad name increafes to me : Zuin- glius that great leader of the Reformation in Helvetia, for di- sputing and writing againft the Anabapcifts, was by Balthdar Hnbmerus Pacimonmnns (though Zuingliw had done him many offices of love) loaded with fo great reproaches, that he was neceflltated to make an Apciogie for himielf to fatisfie the brethren. Calvi* th&t faithf ull Paftour of Geneva, as hislabours and zeal againft popifh herefies are known to all, fo did he write and a& againft all other kinde of errours that fprung up, againft the A nabaptifts, Libertines, Servetm ,Valentinus GentiUs.Smncarus, ( as his works witnefle ) and for his pains and zeal, being as a Chriftian Hercules overcoming fo many monfters, he was called Heretick, Ambitious, affecting a new Papacie, one that ftudied to heap up riches, a Rayler,fo that Be^a, writ an Apologie for him; yea, fome neighbour Paftours reproached him, as if he made God the authour of fin, becaufe he excluded nothing from Gods ex- ternal! providence; in a word, being fo couragious a defender of found doctrine, he was at home and abroad vehemently oppoied; and .yet for all thefe he went on in his worke, like another Paul and A thanaji us ,with undaunted refolucions and pains : upon occa- sion he i pake thus of his hard ufigeand ill requkall,Certainly if I had ferved men, I had made a bad bargain ; but 'tis well that I have fervedhim, who alwayes payes his fcrvants that which he once promiled them, and 'tis enough that I live and die to Chrift,whois gain to his in life and death. * Calvin was fo hatefull, that fome named their doggs Cdviny others changed Calvin into Cain ; many cut of hatred of him,did prohffe they kept away from the Lords Supper* Now for the firftof thefe, namely reproaches, (coms^&c. i do certainly expect and prepare, for the difciple ts not above his Ma ftcr, nor tkejer- vant above his Lord : it ts enough fir the difciple that he be as his Mafier, Matth. 10. 24,25. And what am f better then thole and thofe rlrft Reformers, our enough for me to be fome- learned fathers, duzttftins, Atbanajius, Luther :Z uinglius ,C ah what Lke to tiiem in f offerings. I have had (ome experience of the fecforics malice, hatred, rage upon my former Books and Sermons that The Prefaces. that I have preached, and therefore know, that this and other Tra- ctates will inflame them. I am in my conscience fully pertwaded, that this Tractate is at this time, both feaionable and a$fu41 in many refpe&s, yea necefTary, and that for all ibrtsofmenjr Ma- giftrates, Minifters, peop.e,both thofe that (land, and thole that are f allen?yea the very feclaries themftlves>and in juftice and all reafoi i3I might expect thanks and kinde acceptance of my labour and pains* Buc I look that thelectariesof all (orts will ftorme, and (rail out of their mouthes flouds of calumnies, reproaches, both againft my felf and book, befides all other wayes do me all the milctief they can and dare ; yea,I fear, that too many Brethren, partly through their relations to many fe&aries, and through that lukewarm temper ( in reference to errours of minde ) that hath long pofTerTed them, who thinke every one too hot that appears againft the k&s, will not fo cordially approve this worke. lean too truly fay, that in my former books and Lectures, I have been too much deferted,and not received thofe incouragements which many have done from Brethren upon like occalions ; buc none of thtfe things move me; not the loite of good name, not che unkinde deferting of friends ; neither count I my life dear to my felf, fo I may finifh my courfe, and the mimftery which 1 have received, to teftific the Goipet and the truth of God, againft the errours of the time. And as I know perfections and afflictions abide me in this way ; fo it (hall be my prayer and endeavour, to follow the example of Chrift, and thofe fervants of his before named ; and had I not long fince letdown, and counted my coft, giving up my name to God to take care of it,and my face to the fmicers,! ihould not have appeared thus in writing and preaching ; but I have, through the grace of Chrift, learned to account it an honour to fuffcr for truth,, and oppoiing errours,as- well from fe&aries, as from Popiih fpiritss in this matter of oppoiing the prelent errours, I (light all the pow- er, malice and policie of all the fedaries in the Kingdome. And I am refolved, by the grace of Chrift, which hath enabled me hither- to, to goon inaconftant, chearfull oppoiing and writing againft the errours. nI have determined with mylelf, to fearnoching in this caufe, but to contemn all things ; yea, the higher the er- rours arile,. and the more mighty they grow, the more to rile up retur, fed bene eft quod ci infetvivi, qui t unqna-i> ned fervis iuis t< ren- du qund fei- el promific Sj<;:> el qucd Cfrrifto vivo £ rir tior qui fins lucrum ell in vica & caoite. n lutb. epift ad Spat annum, Qiunto ill! in* furyunt poten* tiu«stanto a rrg ■ viden ur fecuriu*.- Scajutum c(\ a. pu«i me n; lie quicquam in Las re t2meres(ed orn* ni« contemn-stCj againfti 7 he Prefaces. againft them ; I value not my name, nor my life, if compared to the truth ofChrift, but ftiall take pleasure in reproaches, necef- fities, fufferings imuch a time as this is, when tew are valiant for the truth ; no gold fhali bribe me, nor preferments take me off ; no lack of fuppiies fhali diihearten me.I fhali maintain this warfare at my own charges, and this good caufe can not be ftarved for wane of fees. And what ever can happen to me in thiscaufe,I fhali re/oyce, yea and will rejoyce, as remembring thofe fpeeches of Chriit, fob. iZ. To this end was I borne y an d fir this caufe came I into the world, that 1 Should bear witnjfe to the truth* Matth.5.12. Rem Joyce and be exceeding glad, fir great is your reward in Heaven, A C ATALOG VE O F Many of the Errours., Blafphemies and Practices of the Sectaries of the .timc3with fome Obfervations upon them- Ow for this Tractate, I refer it to three heads. 1. 1 (hall premise Come particulars for the better underftanding of the iubjed matter of this book3 and right apprehending of what follows. 2. 1 lhalllay down a Catalogue of the Errours3 blafphemies, practices of the fectaries, together with a particular narration of fundry remarkable paflages,and fome Letters concerning them. 3. Give fome Obfervations upon, and .draw fome Corollaries from the whole matter. I n the firft head I fhall do two things ; Firft,Liy down eight particulars for bet terfatisf action and dire- ction about theerrours,e^r. Secondly, Anfwer two Objections which may be as (tones to (tumble at in the entrance to the matter, andcaufe a prejudice a- gainft the worke. Firft,T he firft thing I premife, which I would have the Reader to take notice of is, that this Catalogue of Errours, Blafphemies, Pra- ctices,Letters, is not of old errours, opinions, practices, of a for- mer age, dead and buried many years ago, and now revived by this Difcourie ; but a Catalogue of errours now in being, alive in thefe preknt times, all of them vented and broached within thefe four years hit pad, yea mod: of them within thefe two laft years, and lerte. 1 1 fhould have been long enough, before I would have raked up old errours from the dead and hell, I had much rather fend C them A Catalogue and Difcovery of them back from whence they came ; and that is my intent in their Amcf Med. The difcovery. i approve well of that rule of Difcipline in the French oi hb.i. Cap is. churches, that the Minifters fhouid not in Sermons meddle with confuting of old errours ; and of that of Amefius to Minifters, That allerrour is not every where to be refuted. For old Herefies that are buried are not to be digged up that they may be re- fuced i but feeing thefe walke up and down in City and Coun- trey, I may give warning of them. Secondly , This fol- lowing Difcovery, is not only of prefent errours, which may be now in Polonia, Tranfilvania, Holland, New-Eng- land , Somer-lfiands , for then I would not have troubled the Reader neither; but in England, held and vented in this Kingdom, as will appear more fully in this difcourfe. Third- ly , More fpecially in thefe places of England , as London and the Counties adjacent, in the Parliaments Quarters, in their Armies and Garrifon Towns, not maintained by perfons at Ox- ftrdt&c. for then it had not been fo much to us ; but as the Pro- phet Ez'kjel f peaks of Jerufalem, 2j*.*j^22. 7,0,10,11. In thee, in tijee.h; thee (oft repeated ) are (itch and (itch things ; So in thee London 3\n thee Allocated Counties, in thee Armies, and that after a folemn Covenant to extirpate herefies and fcifmes, are found fuch and iuch errours, blafphemous opinions, ftrange practifes ; fo that the Reader mud: remember, that all the following Errours, blat- phemies,practiies, Letters, be of perionsin this time, and in this Kmgdom,yea of inch who live and dwell among us. Secondly, I do not undertake nor profefle in this Catalogue and "Difcovery, to give a full Catalogue and perfect enumeration of all the erroneous opinions, blafphemies and practifes of the fectarics within thefe four ia ft years, to as no more can be added to them; I make no doubt, but many a Reader may fay, this Catalogue warts fuch an opinion that he knows of, and iuch an opinion, but only or hi any of them, and of tome principalljand therefore in the Title of this Difcourie, 1 call it a Catalogue of many Errours, ( I do not fay of all:) It cannot rationally be imagined, that one man red- ding conft'andy in one place, not travelling to the Armies, nor up and down from country to country, having his hands full of prea- ching, and writing controverfies, can; come to the knowledge oi all errouu broached in all places, or can have time to read over exactly many Err ours of the Sectaries. exadly all the books of the Sectaries, to ex trad: ail their opinions : It may rather be thus argued, what a world of ft range errours, &c% are there held in all parts of this Kingdom, when one man hears of fo much I if all the Minifters in the Kingdom would bring in what they know, or but aconfiderable number of M-ni- nifters>as a Committee from feverall parts of the Kingdom, would joyn together to read all the books, to take notes of the Sermons in publike, to have (ome obferve and watch meetings in private, and draw into one allthewayes of the feclaries within thefe four laft years, a great volume would not contain the errours, prod igicus opinions, and ftrange pracTiics of thefe times : There's no queftion but there are many monfters conceived by tome in this interim- fticall feafon, which are not yet brought forth, and others that are brought forth, yet like to baftard or mifhapen children, are con* cealed from the publike view, made known only to a very f ew5 being the hidden works of darkneiTe, the time not being yet come topublifh them openly, waiting only for the midwife and nurfing mother of a Toleration, to bring them forth and nourilh them : But though this be not a perfect Catalogue, yet I belceve it will be found the fullcft that hath yet been made of thefe times, and give a further Difcovery then yet we have had. I have feen feverall books written within thefe four laft years & leffe,that give us a par- ticular relation offome errors and blafphemcus opsnions,as learned a Mr Gamktrsjbat thats only of the Antinomian errours,b Mr Bai- aG** eye m u$ ly, one of the learned and Reverend Commiflionersof the Church \{rZr - c ' -, o iJiJJ -vafivi from ok Scotland, but that is only of the Independents, Brownifts and theerreme/ite Chiliads. cWPagets, who relates more then any late Anchors, ^Henfio i but many of them are of the old Anabaptifts, and old feclaries of other countreys rather then of the new, and of this Kingdom. d Mr #'*//>, hut his relation is chiefly of the Familifts and Antino- d .*,/>, Rd:7^:ji mians inNew-EngLind many years ago. But this worke as it ^'f^/1 fpeaks only of the errours and opinions in prefent being and m t^'dIL^, England, fo it difcovers more, then any one book hath, of the Dltw-j^*-w enouis held and maintained among us ; yea then all the Tra- i/fwLw, ^ ftates extant have dilcovercd. many great errours being in this pre- fent Treatife laid down, which are not mentioned at all, neither by the forewarned Auchoars, nor any other, fo that this prefent Difcourfe will be a further improvement of our knowL-dge C z of A Catalogue and Difcovery of of the errours and wayes of the fe&aries of our time. Thirdly, My intent in this workers not to make a formal! confu- tation of thefe errours and opinions,! defigned not that when I firft refolved the thing (that would be along and great worke, and not make good my prefent ends,) I hope the naming or them will be a Sufficient confutation,efpecially with the Animadveriions,Ob- fervations,and Corallaries hereunto adjoyned : 1 have been afaith- fuil gatherer together and ftorer up, Remembrancer and Treafurer of thefe errours and practices for the good of the publike, that I might in a fit fealon bring out of my treafure thefe things, and dis- cover thefe monfters and rocks, that fo they might be of fome ufe to godly people, to make them afraid of forfaking the publike A {Tern- blies,and joyning to Separated Churches where thefe monfters daily breed. Fourthly,! here give the Reader a Synopfisof febut thefe may furfice. 7. Yet further to fatisfie the Reader of the truth of things con- tained in this prefent Treatife,and to (lop the mouchesof fedaries, who will.be ready to put off all, by giving out, that this book is full of lies and fables, I do here offer ( upon condition that fome exr empiary punishment may paiTe upon (omeofthe prime fed ucers and heads of theie (eels, and fome effectual! courfe taken for the future, to remedy and fupprelTe thefe eirours) to make a legal! proof by witnefles, and other concurrent circumftances of the moll notorious and groffeft matters ( which may of all others feem moll queftionable ) whether errours,blafphemies or practices fet down in this following Catalogue. Seventhly, I premife this for the Chriftian Reader to remember, &nd for preventing miftukes in this worke, that though I fet down and many Erreurs of the Seffanes. and joyn together all the following opinions in on»<*- in arguments, it will make up in clamours, lyes, and fpeaking all S^Swij manner of evil falfly of them that difcover and lay it open, as w'mrndam a Luther (peaks 5 the world cannot bear that the things of U rhould JaS^f/hT * E> be IO A Catalogue andDifcovery of aSaxn.ui, Re -exa z&nerd, P">" :o, ^r.iHtfy That ivo>rprt- pntume, n.o*.ftert efcrroari d&anf<-y aad«p:nieHi that the vcorld ntver be conc'etnned, therefore from every pare hatreds, treacheries, calim ni::;, evil* peakings are heaped together to opprefte that Do- f trine, and thoie Teachers whooppofeit : And therefore let them fpeaft evil as long as they .will, and give out Jtis a railing, lying pecce ; yet let me fpeak to the Reader,as the Apoftle doth* i The/* 3.3.4* That no man fhouldbe moved by thefe ajftittions, firife to Id you before, that we Jhould fuffer tribulation, even as its come to pafe, and ye know : fo now I tell yoa before, that when you hear of all kinde of reproaches, ye may not be offended, ?ob.i6.i. Now the fecond particular under this firft generall head, is to remove two ftumbling blocks out of the way, to give an anfwer to two objections that may be made againft this prefent worke. • i. Ob. It maybe fome Will objccl and fay ; It is not feafonable nor convenient to difcover our nakedneffe and weaknefle fo farre to the common enemy, it were better concealed, the enemy will make an advantage of it : TeM it not in Gatb^fublijb it not in the fireets of Askelon ; teft the daughters of the Philistines rejojee, left the daughters of the uncircumcifed triumph. Anf The prevailing of herefies and fecTs among us, is not now to be difcovercd and pubfifhed to the world : It hath not been all thi& time kept within our own walls, and known only to out f elves, but hath been a long time known abroad,and at home, and hath been declared by divers others, both in writing and preaching before now : fo that I fhsll not divulge any fecret to the common enemy : all that I do is but to draw them into one, that we may fee them as it were at once: our errours and fchifmes are fpoken of far and near by enemies and friends. How many Sermons have been preached before the Honourable Houies of Parliament,and in other publike places fpeaking of the errours of the time, which have been alio printed long fince by command of Authority, and expo- fed to the view of all * Many Learned men have given a Cata- logue of feverall errours, as Mr Gataker of many An tinomian er- rours, WBail? one of the Commifiloners of Scotland of other errours* and D.r Feat/y, W Paget, with fome others : In books upon ail occafions, 'tis conftfled by men of a feverall judgements, and. denied by none,that we have many great errours amongft us % many erreurs have been complained of to the Houfes of Parlia- iiientj many Errours of the Sectaries. XX merit, Committees, AfTembiy, and examined fpoken of in the pre- fence of many; befides that fome errours are vented, even of the groffeft lort in print, as in Pilgrimage of Saints, BloadjTenet, Mortality of the foul, Alan of jinn e difcovered, cum multis alijs : Yea,(omeof the Sectaries have in their writings publifhed and ac- knowledged, there are many forts of opinions among us, hence taking occafion to write for a toleration of all as AnabaptiftV, Antinomians,e?r. and the great Hiltorian and Chronicler of the fe&aries ( the Moderate Intelligencer ) who writes their lives and deaths, and trumpets forth their victories and praifes ih immoderately as ir they did all : hath publifhed to the world, fome weeks ago, that there are twenty (everall opinions in the Army ; and hath pleaded more then once for liberty of confeience for them all; fo that I by writing in thiskinde of theerrours of the time, cannot be guilty of difcovering our nakednefle,the enemy having known fo much long before. But why (land I to prove that our herefies and fchifmes are openly known in £#g/W, when as their found is gone into all Lands,into Hollands ealand,F ranee 9 yea to New -England. The Wdachrian Claflis, in their Letter to the London Synod complain much of herefies,fchifmes,errours, confufions in Religion fpreading in the City, which by fuchan exprefTe, holy and facred oath is bound to God, to call out all er- rours,herefies,fchifmes out of the houfe of God. Many Letters have been written over into England out of Holland, from Minillers and Prof eflburs of ichools ( men zealoufly affected to the caufe of the Parliament) complaining of the errours/eds and fchifmes a- mongftus, which have been communicated tolome prime mem- bers of the AfTembiy and others. New-EngUnd fpeaks much of the herefies, errours,and all forts of feds amongft us, c wondring that the Affembly fufrers them, and that they do notfnrreup the Parliament to fupprefft them* d Mr Skepards Letter written from thence, fhews their knowledge of the herefies, errours and feels a- niongft us, fo that our errours and fchifmes fo pubiikely known to the world,cannot be concealed from Oxfird. Seeing then rhere are fo many errours and monfters of opinions fpoken of inallphces, I cannot be tared for the difcovery of that which was before con- cealed,but in this work am only a gatherer together of thole errours that were fcattered, which by Gods bleiling may be a means D 2, CO Medtvrti InteUig, ^CoafiderstvQj!*' rund. Contrd«crC AGaicl.Apoll. viiie epift. ad Sy- nod. LonJ. Judicent con(cL emia; ve(Uar,qu»- modo omnc ha-e refiuro genu; in- ukum pcrmitti, multifaria ("chit- iratumfcminaim" pune fpargi, & prcfana eircrum dcgaiacnpaftim in vulgus profetri poffint in ilia civi- tare, qu* tarn ex- prcflc, fanao U facro facrarrento Icfc coram Deo devinxt't ai cm- ne& erroreshsrc* resfchifmsta c Domo f><;i e)ic»« endas: vide ibi pi in- a. cNew. England atfucb ad fiance, I{nenves vet fo WiU. the nature oft hi Jlflembtyi and therefore [pea^fs o! it^oM of \eal a- gainSi er»r er-attrs d Ncw-Englands Lamentation, f ,r e'^Engtands/Jre- fent errors *4 f tinted Letter sf Mm Shepards. 1Z A Catalogue and Difcovtry of to keep many from falling into fchifme feeing fuch monfters in that way,and to caufe many to returne, when they rinde that they never dreamt of nor intended. Secondly fuppoiing our crrours to be known, which is fully proved in my firlt Aniwer, 1 then fecondly fay, 'cisfofarre from being unfeafonable and inconvenient, that 'tismoftneceflary, rhac fome Minifters, who are friends to the Reformation, and zealots for the Parliament, fhouid lay them open to the full, by teftifying againft them and declaiming them, that fo our enemies may not fay, we favour and countenance them ; and one of my great ends in this Traclate,is to take away occasion from the common ene- my to blafpheme the Reformation, and (peak ill of the Parliament, by our not owning them, but fpeaking as much againft herefie, lchiime and all errours as any of them can. 3. I anfwer, we fhouid be fo farre from being afraid to give the common enemy advantage,by fpeaking againft hereliesand errours, that on the contrary 1 may lay, we have no fach enemies,as thofe perlons, that broach and fpread their herefies and damnable opi- nions : thefe are cur enemies which we have caufe to fear more then all the Cavaliers, thefe are the ^c ^# /, theaccurfed perfons, and things which are moft likely to undo us ; and if ever the Parlia- ment and their party be ruined ( which God prevent ) it will not be fomuch by the Cavaliers, tb«y could not have done it, but-the herefies, bhip|iemies and fchifrrses of fome among ourfelves will caufe it; and therefore the finding of thelc out, and labouring to have thefe removed, is a worke or great importance to the faving of the Kingdom, and of great prejudice to the common enemy, whofe hopes and confidence are much more placed in our herefies-, prodigious opinions and fchifmes.,then in their own ftrength. a. Ob. As this book will give occafion to open themouthesof enemies,, fo it may caufe diltra&ions and divjfions among our felves, weaken the hands of many whoarecordialltothe Parlia- ment^ pprehendingthemfelves to be written aga^ befides this may offend many goodperfons that are not le&aries, efpecially ihu Independents fhouid be put into this Catalogue, and ranked with alllorts of herecicks and ichifmaticks. 1. I aniwer to this, as Lather did in an Epiftle of his to Spala~ mm upon a likeoccafion 2 SjtaUtinm would not have had Lu* ther many Err ours of the Sectaries. 1 3 ther at fuch a time to have wric againft the Papifts, for fear of di- sturbing the publike peace : to whom Luther thus replies, Thats excellent indeed, that thou thinkeft it not fit to have the publike fence difturbed, and yet judges it fit to have the eternalL peace of God cUfquietedi not fi, O S palatine. Shall the grievous wolves come freely to the flock, not (paring them ; and if the doggs barke to give warning or them, diall they belaid to difturbe the peace, and caufe diftra&ions ? Brethren, things are come to a good paiTe, that hereticks and fe&aries muft do what they pleafe, and if any courfe be taken, by preaching, writing, petitioning, to remedy it9 'tis given out by Sectaries, 'tis a plot to make divifion, difcourage the Army, difturbe the peace. I fay no more, if this be to preferve union and peace, and to be cordiall to the Parliament, to let hereticks and fe&aries do what they lift, preach, write, fpread their errours, deftroy many fouls, and no man muft fay, what do they ? curfed be that union, peace and aftedion to the Parliament. c'Tis a golden faying of Luther, ciutbtrmmevm. and worthy to be thought of in thefe times; Curfed be that cha- ^^ ritj fthich is kept with the loffe of the do Urine of faith, to which aH iitas,qua? fcrvatur things ourht to rive place, Charity, an Apo/He, an Angel frorru "»? ,aaurad«- Heaven, d yea,and I will adde, Parliaments. omniaccdcc dc- Anfa. If in fuch a time as this, and fuch a cafe, when by many b^r> c*wric«,A^ perfons all the things of God are laid wafte and made null^Church, Velio** Ansclu' Miniftery,Sacraments, Scriptures, and whatnot? men will beof* **** M«*' fended for fpeaking, let them, 'tis better they fhould be offended, ^S then the glory of Chrift fhould fuftcr ; 'tis an offence taken,and not ^eir^^amio>n% givcn5Chrift cared not in that cafe that the Pharifees were offended, twiTfZZ Mat. 15.12,13,14. I wonder they are not offended at the heretics filf °( ** R'fi* and errours daily broached,'and yet (hculd be offended at the difco- Z^^^l vering and fpeaking againft them. I have more caufe to be offended at this objection of theirs, and their lukewarmentile : wo be unto them that broach thefe errours, and to thofe that countenance them, iovjvery plant which my heavenly father hath not planted, fiallbe rooted up. Anfw.$. I name not thefe things to provoke and exafperate any, efpecially none of thofe, who in flmplicity of hear t,and under pretences of greater holineile and new light, are taken in thefe way es ; ( for as I have writ before,fo I fay again, I put a great difr D £ fiance. 1 6 A Catalogue and Dtfcovery $f And I degre to commend to the Readers ferious and fad confi- Jeration, three particulars concerning the errours and feds of this time; and the rather, becaufe they were not fo common to the (eds in the ages before , at leaft not the two firft . i . Tiiat among all thefe forts of feds and fedaries, there are hardly now to be found in England ( for to this Kingdom, and to thefe four iaft years do Ixpnrine my felf all along in this difcourfe ) any fed thats fimpleand pure, andjiot mixt and compounded, that is, any fed (among them all ) which holds only the opinions and principles of its own way, without enterfering and mingling with the errours of other ieds ; as for example, where can a man finde a Church ot fimple Anabaptifts, or fimple Antinomians, or fimple pure Inde- pendents, each of them keeping to their own principles, as Anaba- ptifts to Anabaptifme,Independents to lndependencie,and holding no other ? but rather do we not fee by experience, that both the feverall kindes of k6ist andmoft perionsofeachkinde, are com- pounded of many, yea,fome of all : One and the lame fociety of perfons in our times, being both Anabaptifticall, Antinomian, Maniftftarian, Libertine, Socinian, Millenary, Independent, En- thufiafticall ? yea,among the Independents (who are of a 11 the reft accounted belt ) where can any man (hew me an Independent Church Itridly io cal'd, or a man of them hardly, who fymboiizes not with the other feds, holding befide Independence, neither the opinions of the Chiliads, nor of the Libertines, nor other ftr*nge opinions I The Army that is io much fpoken of upon all occafions in the news Books^ulpitSjConferences^o be Independent (though I conceive upon good inform -tion, that upon a true mufter of the whole, Commanders and common (ouldiers, there would not be found above one in fix of that way ) yet of that Army, card by the fe&anes, Independent,and of that part of it which truly is fo, I do nut thinke there are 50 pure Independents, but higher flown, more Seraphicall ( as aChaplaine,who knows well the (late of that Army^ expreflcd it) madenp and compounded of Anabapaime, Antinomianifme, Enthaliafme, Arminianifme, Fami!ifme,ail thefe errours and more too ibmetimes meeting in the fame perfons, flrange monfters, having their heads of Enthuiialme, their bodies cf Aiuinomianiime, their thighs of Familifme, their leggs and lectof Anabapt ihne,their hands of Arminianifme,andLibercinifnie, as many Errenrs of the Sectaries. 1 7 as chc great vein going thorow the whole ; in one word, the great Religion of that Fort of men in the Army, is liberty of confeience, and liberty of preaching. But heretofore, both in times more an- cient and later,and in other (Counties, feverall feds kept themf elves more to their own proper tenets, without that general! cbnfufion of each running into all, as the Arians,Novatians and others, in the firft fix hundred years, and the Antinomians in Lu-htrs time, Secondly, That all theie forts of feels, how different foever, yea and contrary to one another in many principles and opinions, yet all agree in theft times in ieparating from our Church, refuting communion in our publike Affembhcs, and in difallowing the an* ' thoritative power of Gaffes and Synods ; all the feds, yea the word of th.m, as the Antifcripiurifts, Arians,Antitrinitarians,Per- a rhc6dotct n^ fedifts, being Independents and Separatists (though all Indepen- re^fabuj.^i^ dtfits and Separating be not Arians, AntinomianSjC^c. ) which £*£ ,dJ*no- . *■ . ' , - O V..OUCX L3i";!:-;iJ deictves the more to be thought on, becau(e in the Primitive Eccicf. African*. times, fome hereticks andfedaries would have been glad of com- ?>9a', iSJ5"- tnunion in worihip with the Orthodox; ( a nsfritu denred to be sum enim pkna» received into the Church of Alexandria aeaine, and madefuch fff V**™** ™m friends, to Co nftanune, that upon his pretending repentance, he qua* decipnmc, Uu commanded Alexander the Bilhop of Alexandria, to give him S^h"^ the hand of feilowfhip and to admit him) as alio they approved biandiad'iediu* of the power of Synods and Councels, coming unto them. The ^h^jre^vci Arians, Donatifts and other Sedaries held many Councels, as that ccrtcinfla«,& & of Tjrus, Antiochia, the firft Councei of* Carthage in Co&an- p°fca^°"^°ta^ tines dzy&i of thefe and many more we read of in Ecclefiafticall propria piS?ia! Hiftories. I never read of any Independent Minifter in all the Pri- cubandum«& ron> mitive Churchcs(no not amongft the Secranes)ror the firlt fix hun- ti ad concilium dred years, fave only in the days of Axrelim Biihopof Carthage, }n£**™&*™ who living in the fifth Century ,in an ^African Synod and Councei dartur *&*$? hdd at C«rthage declares ; b There are many *ho confpiring with ^ZtTtl g!U their own proper people Who they do deceive, Scratching their itch- *re tf'f fi»- againft whom Aurelius moved, that they might be deprived ToTtiZl^^ E of i8 A Catalogue and Difcovery of Bonum oon eft c jntrariumbono, fed t.intam malo, .at malum contra* iiarur & bono .V mslo, Veruns elf unum, menda* cir.m vcro multi- plex.. Of the Scriptures. Vide the third printed Letters, as alfbacoppyef ^r- Utlsiina MS, Pdtnpb intituled Pilgrim of Saints, &?Lavw. Chrck» font of all authority over their -proper people, as rebellions and diforderly , which was contented to and voted by the whole Synod , faying placet, pUcet* Thirdly, That for the er- rours and opinions laid down in this Catalogue, fome are contrary and contradictory to others of them , io that many of thefe errours fight among the mf elves ; this indeed is one great difference between truth and errour, that truth though it be contrary to errcur, yet one truth is never contrary to another, truth is one and uniformed but many errours are not only con* trary to truth, but to errours alfo ; yea fome of thefe errours are moft contrary to what ever could have been expected; many of the perfons who hold thefe opinions being fallen into tome of the er- rors of Popery, Arminiani(me,Libertiniime and thole of the grofldl fort, ( as the Reader in the Errours hereafter named may more eafiiy perceive ) which they fpoke fo much againft heretofore, and for fear of which coming in upon us, they firft began to forfake this Church, fo that they have wheeled and wheeled about fo long on the right hand,thac they are perfectly come round to the left* The Catalogue of the Errours, Herefies, Blafphemies, u as follows, I . ~T" Hat the Scriptures cannot be laid to be the word of God • 1 there is no Word but Chrift, the Scriptures are a dead let- tered no more to be credited then the writings of men^not divine, but humane invention. 2. That the Scripture, whether a true manufcript or no,whether Hebrew jGreek orEngliih,is but humane,andio not able to dilcover a divine God. Then where is your command to make that your Rule or Diicipiine, that cannot reveal you God, nor give you power to walke with God? fo that Chrift letting out himfeif as he is in iimftjf,. ou^ht to be a Chriftians rule in obedience to himfeif. I. That the Scriptures are unfufficient and uncertain, there" is no certainty to build any Do&rine upon them, they are not an infal- lible foundation of faith. 4. As the condition of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Mofes&c* was, that they did walke with God by the teaching of God, lo is many Errours'ofthe Sectaries. 1 9 isours : that is not to limit Chrift to Adam, Noah, Abraham-*, Mofes, David, fohnmi the Difciples. As they were not to ty God to any things before them recorded, but each of them had a new record 5 fo are not we to limit God in the generall records of thofe paths, but wait upon him in the enlargement of theGofpel what he will record you ; and far be it from me to conclude either in Do&rinecr practice, that half of his glory is revealed as yet : As that I ihould enclofe Chrift in fuch a fmall compaile as we have pupim. efSaimt. recorded : though I rejoyce to underftand it in the iearching there- of, yet preiTing coward the marke for the price of the high calling of God, waiting what he Will record in my heart, and in that mea- fure worihip him in fpirit and truth from the teaching of the Spirit. f. That the holy writings and layings of Mofes and the Pro- phets, ofChriftandhis Apoftles, and the proper Names, Perfons and things contained therein are Allegories, and thele Allegories are the myilery and fpirituall meaning of them. 6. That the Penmen of Scripture, everyone of them, writ as themfelves conceived, they were the adions of their own fpirit; and for what is laid they were moved by the holy Ghoft, that was no other Spirit then that which moved them to write and fpeak ocher things,for in him we live and move and have our being. 7. That the Scriptures of the old Teftament, do not concerne norbinde Chriftians now under the new Teftament : fo that when places of Scripture are brought out of the old Teftament to prove Points, oiany Sectaries make Qighcofthem, and fay ,Give us a text out of the new, we are ignorant of the old ; and hereupon (ome of them do not binde the old Teftament with the new,nor read it. 8. That right Ileafon is the rule of Faith, and that we are to be- leeve theScripcure?, and the DocTrme of the Trinity, Incarnation, Refurreclion, fo far as we fee them agreeable to reafon, and no farther. 9. That the new Teftament, nor no place of Scripture in it, bmdesany further then the Spirit for prefent reveals to us that (uch a place is the Word of God. 10. To read Scripture in Er.glifh to a mixt Congregation with- cue prefent expounding it, is dangerous, and wcrie then to read it in Latine ; for in Lancets it doth no good,fg itdoth no harme. £ * 11. Thac 20 of God, Vide rBool{. intit. Comfort for Be- lcevers. pa^j-5. tlar&t. efthe Af- fembly of Divines 4gunfl it. b rhefirfi branch oj this Errour is verbatim in Bloudy Tenec, m the Preface. A Catalogue and Difcovery of & Lafi part htth hei n$okjen by fame eminent Sett&mu 1 1 . That God hath a hand in, and is the Authour of the finfull- neffe of his people ; that he is the Authour not of thofe Actions alone,in and with which fin is, but of the very Pravity, Ataxy, Ano- my, Irregularity and finfulineffe it (elf which is in them. 1 2. That all Lyes come forth from out of the mouth of God. 13. b,TisthewiliandcommandofGod,that(incethecomingof his Son the Lord Jefus, a permifiion of the moft Paganish, Jewiih, Turkilhjor Anticftriftian consciences and worfhips be granted to all men in all Nations and Countries: and they are only to be fought a- gainft with t$e (word of Gods Spirit,the word of God j and for the Parliament to ufe any civil coercive means to compell men of differ- ent judgements oneof the greateft fins that can be named,' tis com- mitting a greater rape, then if they had forced or ravilhed the bo- dies of all the women in the world. d Yea,if it be mens conferences, the Magiftrate may not punifh for blasphemies, nor for denying the Scriptures,nor for denying there is a God. 1 4. That no man was caft into hell for any fin, but only becaufc God would have it (o. 15. That man had life before God breathed into him, and that which God breathed into him was part of the divine Eflfence, and Ciall return into God again. id*. That we (hould tftinke of our (elves no better then was meet, for God loves the creatures that creep upon the ground as well as the beft Saints ; and theres no diftanee between t*he flefii of a Man,and the flefh of a Toad. 17. That the Prince of the ayr that rules in the children of dit* obedience is God ; and that there is no other ipirit but one, which Spirit is God. 1 8. That God hath not decreed all the a&ions of men, becaufc men doing what God decreed,do not Cm. 19. That God was never angry nor difpleafcd with man • for if he were ever difpkafed and pleaied again, then there is a change* ableneffein God, 20. That God loved not one man more then another before the world, neither is there an abfolute particular election, but only ge- nerall and conditional! upon perkverance ; and the Scripture no inhere (peaks of Reprobates or Reprobation. 21 .. That the ieui.dies with the body, and all things fhali have many Ersours of the Sectaries. 2 1 have an end, but God only fhall remain for ever. 22. Every creature in the firfteftate or creation was God, and every creature is God, every creature thac hath life and breath being an efflux from God, and (hall returne into God again, be (wallowed up in him as a drop is in the ocean. 23. Thac to a faving knowledge of God,it fufficeth not to know o. srcvran feeoni him in the book of nature; nor fecondly as reveakdin the holy p^ofJ>epL t9 Scriptures,but that we mud know him as abftrad from his mercies m. Bal^/fr*. and ail his attributes. into^f™"™ 24. That in the Unity of the God-head there is not a Trinity of Perions, but the Doctrine of the Trinity beleeved and profefled in the Church of God,is a Popifh tradition and a Doctrine oi'Rome. 25. There are not three diftind Perfons in the Divine EiTerce, but only three Offices; the Father, Son and holyGhoft are not three Perfons,but Orlices. 16. That there is but one Perfon in the Divine nature. vide proof of am 27. That Jefus Chrift is not very God, not God efTentially, but ^^ nominally, not the eternall Son of God by eternall generation, vtitfuii proof ef no otherwife may he be called the Son of God but as he was ^»^*?«*«- man. a8.ThatChrifts humane nature is defiled with originall fin as well as ours,Chrift had from the birth tohis death the fame originall ab- ruption as ours, he took cur fin into his nature as well as our flefh v Me proof of th* upon him : Chrift is not of a holier nature then we : but in this ap- in \he $fl/AUr» r^ 1 \ l i 11 1 1 • t r » and in the fourth pears Gods love to us, that he will take one of us in the fame con- uwr, a*di* &*«* dition, to convince us of what he is to us, and hath made us to be l/w»M's- in him; me thinks the beholding of Chrift to be holy in the flefh-. isadifhonour to God, in that wefhould conceive holintfk out of God, and again a difcomforc to the Saints, that hefhculdbecfa. more holy nature then they, as being no ground for them to come neer with boldneffe to C Jod. 20. That we did look for great matters from one crucified at ^- M/«/#i,« rufiUm \6 hundred years ago, but that docs us nogood, k mud ^J$givtrt' be a Chrift formed in us, the deity united to our humanity, Chrift ^vvtbb^lT came into the world to live thirty two years, and to do nothing £'^ •***/■**«*,■ elfe that he knew, and blefTcd God he never trufted in a crucifv d Chrift. 30. Chrift was true man when he created us: yeafrorneterriity* £ 3- ttlfc 22 A Catalogue and Difcovtry of *Vide firH printed Lctt.r fir l-ro-.f, a Pan] Hobi. Sc r;n* Cktijl the effitcJ, no: the caufs of the Uve of G*i% Vide ^Antmxd on tin fourth heW.r% which mil fatiifie the Redder i hsrv Cfjriftis bo\htle ft nit and the caufs efGods love : a yd thife a r oun in fuch ignorant me- chanic'^* at Hob- (cn, «rsfe ftom net bnng st'le to dt - Umguzfh thscau- fes of our jutiifi- c&tioa and fa lv a- tkn.The fitft and fitptemecaufejs the w-ideferved grace and favour of God • the mo- ving and merito- rious cauft's re • demotion tnd re- conciliation pur- chafed hy Chrisl$ the in&wmiKiak mufe whereby the fa me is impu- ted buc was purchased by it. 40. bChrVft jdus came into the world to witneiTe and declare the^ love of God lo us, not to procure it for us, or to (atishe God ( as tome lay,) Chrift was amoft glorious publilher of the Gofpel, he many Err ours of the Sectaries. 2 3 he was lent to preach theGofpel, to heal the broken hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives : in all that Chnft faith to be the end of his coming, is not a word mentioned of any thing done by him in way of latisfying God, C rifts camming was more like a conquerour to deftroy the enmity in our nature, and fo to convince us or the love of God to us, by deftroying in our nature that which we thought Hood bee vVeen God and us. 41. c That the uncTion which the Saints are faid to receive from * p»j1 .^°b^i{| the holy One3i fob.i.io. is one with the Chrift- hood of (thrift. rfietffca, 'notihe 42. That Chnft was a legall preacher, for till after his a'cenfion |*u*o°ft^ Jove theGofpel was not preached ; Chnft lived in a darke time, and io c °"^a^- he preached the Law, but afterwards then theGofpel came to be preached. 43. ThatChrift ihall come and live again upon the earth, and for aThoufand years reign vifibly as an earthly Monarch overall the world, in outward glory and pomp, putting down all Monar- chic and Empires. 44. That w;hcn Chrift in his own Perfon hach fubdued the dif- obedient Nations, then the Church of the]:Ws and Gentiles (hall live without any difturbance,from within or without it : ail Chn- ftians lhall live without fin, without the Word, Sacraments or any Ordinance, they (hall paffe thoie Thousand yeais in worldly de- lights, begetting many children, eating and drinking, and enjoying all la wfuil pleasures which all the creatures then redeemed • from .. their ancient fiavery can afford. 45. That men may be laved without Chrift, and the Very Hea- thens are faved, if they ferve God according to the knowledge God hath given them,chough they never heard of Chrift. cfi. That the leaft Truth is of more worth then Jefus Chrift hi mi elf. 47. Chrift by his death hath freed all men from a temporal! death which Adzms fin only defer ved, by purchasing them are* ? furreclion, and hach opened them away to come to the Father it the y Will*, thus far he died for all,no farther for any. 48. The Spirit of God dwells not, nor works in any : it is but °f*h*Spkk f our conceits and miftakes to thinke io, 'tis no fpirit that works bus a>%™?0°/fAn*' our own. 49. That the fame fpiric which works in the children of dif- obediencr^ , 24 A Catalogue and Dijcovery of obedience, is thatfpirit which fancTifies the hearts of the elecl:. ™t£w£s*re ments, Prayer and other Ordinances, but by the experience of the a^ch/s uJoU" 5 1 • That a man baptized with the holy Ghoft, knows all things even as God knows all things, which point is a deep myftery and great ocean, where there is no calling anchor, nor founding the bottome. $2. That if a man by the (pint knewhimfelf to be in the (late of grace, though he did commit mur ther or drunkennelTe, God did lee no (in in him. 53. That SancTifkation is not an evidence of Juftification, and all notes and fignes of a Chriftians eftate are legall and unlawfull. 54. Bckevers have no inherent falsification, nor fpirituall ha- bits of grace infufed into their hearts, but all their fan&ification is that which is inherent in Chrift, and they for this and no other caufe, are (aid in Scripture phrafe to be fancTified, butbecaufeof Chrifts (ancTification and inherent holineffe. cfhdsmand $$. e Though Adam had continued in his eftate ofinnocencie, Th»wafprcachd and not fallen, yet he had dkd a naturall death, for death now is i» a b>H[e,*M e noc a fruit of fin to beleevers. VZ?a™$cty!foJ&«. that Chriftians are freed from the mandatory power of the law. elodveoX*** 67. Pcrlbns juftihcd, are not faftifiedby faith, but are juftificd M&*&G°&t from ali eternity. 68. Neither faith, nor repentance, nor humiliation, nor felf. deniali, nor ufe of ordinances, nor doing as one would be done to> are duties required of Chrilt tans, or fuch things as they mull exer- cife themfelves in,or they can have no part in Chrift. 69. True faith is without all doubts of falvation, and if any man have doubts of his (alvation, his faith is to be noted with a black marke. 70. That?* oW^fai thin a proper fenfe is imputed to juftifi- cation{and not Chriftsrighteoulndle imputed to j unification, 71. Tha* the doctrine of repentance is a ioul-dcftroying do- ctrine. 7 2. In the old Covenant (that is before Chrift came in the flefh) in the Prophets dayes, repentance is declared as a means to obtain remiflion, and neither remiliion nor the knowledge of re mi (lion to go bctore,but to follow condition ; But this is not the Gofpel which is cftabliihed upon better promifes. 7 3 . That 'tis as pollible fur Chnit himfelf to fin,as for a childe of m.g«*1s G*l God to fin. . «"/**"/- 74. That there ought to be no fading dayes under the Gofptl, and that men ought not to afflict their fouls, no not in a day of hu- miliation. 75. That God doth not chaftife any of his children for fin, and let beleevers fin as faft as they can,there is a fountain open for them GmkMU to wa(h in,and that not for the fins of Gods people, but for fwear- ers and drunkards the land is puniihed. F 76*. That 1 at Ga:ak,z£j£ i6 A Catalogue md Discovery of Kaiak. God\cy?o his Ifra. Pcef. co Read. teaL l **4i Sep- G.ataft. Godr ere tn Ifrael. P icf, to Read. Denn Mm of fit dtfc&veredy pag.12. 76. That beleevcrs have nothing to do to take care, or to look to themklves to keep from fin,God muft look to them ,ir he will. 77. God loves his children as well finning,as praying,hearing and doing the holieft duties, he accounts of them never the better for their good works^nor never the worfe for their ill works. 78. That Gods children are not at all to be hum bled troubled or grieved roriin after converfion, and what Peter did inthiskinde after his foul fad of denying his Matter, iftued from the weakneffe ofhi faith. 7p, That Gods children are not to aske the pardon and forgive - fe of their fins, they need not, they ought not, and'tis nolefle then bla'phemy for a childe of God to aske pardon of (ins, 'tis infi- delity to aske pardon of fins, and Davids asking forgiveneffe of fin was his weaknefTe. 80. That when <*Abraham denied his wife, and in outward ap- pearance feemed to lie in his diftruft, lying, diflembling and equi- vocating that his wife was his fifter,even then truly all his thoughts., words and deeds were perfectly holy and righteous from all Ipot of fin in the fight of God freely. 81. The called of God have fin in the flefh, they have fin in the converfation, but they have no fin, neither can they have any in the conicience, for the true faith of Gods elect, and fin in checonfei* ence, can no more (land together then light and darkntfle, and this reconciles thofe two Scriptures, if we (aj we have no fin, we de» ceive optrfelves, and he that is borne of God doth not commit fin, neither can he,bccaufehe is borne cf God. §2. The great Annchrift is that myfticall body of iniquity which oppoiethj^usChrift, and not the Pope of Rome, or any particular iucceiuon of men, only he is a pare of Antichrift. D enn makes the oppofition of Antinomian trrours to be the man of fin and the great Antichrift, as is to be fcen in feverall pages of his Man of fin difcovercd. And Sectaries make them who deny Qf "Afsrt after this. Uj\ ■y>fib» Sittl } Rejurreftion fo.-n %bc deadjieaven a»d.ktk. Chrifts dying for all, to be Antichrift : others make Antichriftia- mime to conlift in the coercive power of the Magiftrate in matters of Religion. 83 . That the foul of man is mortall as the foul of a beaft,and dies With the body. 8-i, Tkt the fouls of the faithf ull after death, dc Seep till the d3y of many Erronrs of the Seffarks. 2 7 of judgement-, and are not in a capacitie of ading any thing for God, but 'tis with them as 'tis with a man that is in (ome pleafing dream. 85. That the bodies of the faithfull fhall not rHe again atthere- forredion ( namely the fame that died ) but their fouls fhall have other bodies made fit for them, either by creation orfadion from fome preexifting matter, and though the bodies be new, yet tfu; men are the fame,becaule the fame fouls remain ft ill. %6. Infants rife not again.becaufe they are not capable of know- ing God,and therefore not of enioying him. 87. That the perfection and refurredion fpoken of by Pzttt, 1 Cor. 15.5 1,5 2,5 3,54,55,5 6,57, the hope fetbefcreus, the e-ter- nall inheritance, a City having roundations,who(e builder and ma- ker is God, are to be attained in the fullneiTe and perfedion of them now in this preient time before the common death of the body. 88. That none of the (ouls of the Saints go to Heaven where Chrift is, but Heaven is empty of the Saints till the rclurrtdion of the dead. 8y. There is no pefurredion at all of the bodies of men after this life,nor no Heaven nor hell after this lifemor no devils. 90. There fhall be in the laft day a refurredion horn the dead of all the bruit creatures, all beafts and birds that ever lived upon the earth,every individual! ot every kinde of them that died (hall rife again, as Weil as of men, and all thefe creatures fhall live for tver upon the earth. 01. There is no hell, but in this life, and that's the legall terrours and fears which men have in their c©nfciences. 92. That there is no Church of Chrift upon the earth, no true oftheChwcKGo- Miniftery,no Sacraments, no Golpel, no faith^ becaufe there are no ^lZm7 ""* vifible nor infallible gifts. 93. No man is damned but for rejeding the Gofpel, and none can rejed the Gofpel, but thoie who have it tendred unto them, as they had it in the Apoftles dayes being confirmed by miracles. 94. That the pure preaching of the Word, and right adminiftra- tion of the Sacraments, are no notes nor fignes of a truevilible Church. 95. *Tis the will of God that miracles fhould attend the Mini- ftery, the Apoftles make a marriage of dodrine and miracles, fo F 2 that 2 3. A Catalogue and Difcovery of Pilgrim, $f Saint!, »~But the apostle 3 \9 io,*r. We have a more fur e vrtriofprophecie, ivhereunf) ye Jo wet! that vitsk,e heed&c, Sptisus fancius non efi fccpticin, nee du- '>ja aat npinioncs in corjjbu!. no- ftris faipfit, fed zffcrt.oncs ipfa v«3& omni ex- prrentta ccrtio* res ac fi.miore;. that chey who preach the Gofpei, muft be fo gifted as to confirms it by (ignes and wonders. o<5. That many Chriftians in thefe dayes have more knowledge then theApoftleSjand when the time is come that there (hall be true Churches and Miniftery erecled, they (hill have greater girts, and do greater miracles then the Apoftles ever did,becaufe the Chriftian Church was but then in its infancy. 97. That there ou*ht to be in thefe times no making or build- ing of Churchesmor uie of Church-ordinances, as miniftringof the WordjSacraments, but waiting for a Church, being in readineffe. upon all occafions to take knowledge of any paiTenger, of any opinion or tenet whadoever, the Saints as pilgrims do wander as in a Temple of fmoak, not able to fbde Religion, and therefore fhould not plant it by gathering or building a pretended fuppofed Houle, but (hould wait for the coming ofche Spirit, as the Apo- ftles did. o3. There is afalvation that fla all be revealed in the laft times y which was not known to the Apoftles themlelves. 09. That within a while God will raife up Apoftles, men extra- ordinarily endowed with vifible and infallible gifts to preach the Gofpel,and that (hall precede the fall of Rome. 100, *That in points of Religion, even in the Articles of faith* and principles of Religion, theres nothing certainly to be beleeved and built on, only that all men ought to have liberty of conlcience, and liberty of prophelying. 101. That the benptuaes nowherefpeak of Sacraments, name ©r thing. 102. That the Covenant whereof Circumcifion was the feal, was only of temporal! Promiies, as E\\G. of the knd of Canaan; that the Covenant God made with Abraham, had nothing fpiri- tuallinit; and that Circuincinon was a feal of therighceoufneflfe of faith to no other but to lAbraham alone qaatenm a father, and not to his children. 103. That Baptifme is not. a feal nor figne of the Covenant of grace 104, That Pcedobaptifme is unlawful! and antichriftian, and that *ns as lawfull to baptize a Car, or a Dog or a Chicken, as co baptize the Infants of. beitevers, 105, "lis many Err ours of the Sectaries, 29 105. 'Tisaslawfulltobreakany of the ten Commandmerits,as to baptize an Intent :yea/tisas lawfull to commit adultery and m urther,as to baptize a'childe. 106. That baptizing belongs not to Minifters only, all gifted brethren and preaching Diicipies ( though r.o Minifters ) may baptize. 107. Baptizednefteis not ellentiall to the Baptizer, nor eiTen- tiall to preaching; (othatpcrlons, not only notinoftice, but not fb much as baptized, may both baptize and preach. 108. Miracles are eflentiall to the administration holden forth in thecommiflk)nofBapti(me,/I o A Catalogue and Difcovery of 117. That ail fecled certain maintenance for Minifters of the Gofpei, efpecially that which is called tithes, is unlawfull, Jewifh and Antichriitian. 118. That Minifters of the Gofpei in thefedaies ought to work with their hands, and to follow tome calling , that they may not be chargeable to the Church. up. That there ought to be no diftintft order of Minifters, nor no fuch calling of fome perfons diftindl and feparated from the peo- ple, but that all men who have gifts are in their turns and oourfes, by the appointment of the reft of the company, to preach, pray, baptize, and they are for that turn in ftead of Minifters, and as cfPfwhin wi Minifters. HeJinu$\**y- 120. That all daies are alike to Chriftians under the new Tefta- ™t*f*&££fbi menr, and they are bound no more to the obfervation of the Lords fiu"slbLtbJr1' day, or firft day of the week then to any other. Urdi cky. j 2 1 . That the Jewifri Sabbath or Saturday is ftiil to be kept by Chriftians for their Sabbath. 122. That Chriftians are not bound to meet one day in feven conftantly according to iht manner of the Nations,nor to pray and preach thus long, and in this manner two or three hours, according to the cuftome of the Nations. 123. No man hath more to doe to preach the Gofpei then ano- ther but every man may preach the Go! pel, as well as any. 124. That 'tis lawfull for women to preach* and why fhould fchey not, having gifts as well as men?and fome of them do actually preach, having great refort to them. 125. Tis a pare of the Chnftian liberty of Chriftians, not to hear their own Minifters, but to go and hear where they will,and whom they thinke they may profit moft by. 126. That Jtis unlawfull to worihipGod in places confecrated, and in places where Superftition and Idolatry have been pra&iied, as in our Churches. 127. That men ought to preach and exercife their gifts without ftudy and premedication, and not to thinke of what they are to fay till they (peak, becaufe it (hall be given them in that hour, and the Spirit iliall teach them, 128. That there is no need of humane learning, nor of reading Authours for Preachers, but all books and learning muft go down, it many Err ours of the Sectaries, 3 1 it comes from the want of the Spirit, that men write fuch great vo- lumes, and make fuch adoe of learning. 129. There are fome women, ten or eleven in one Town or vi- cinity, who hold it unlawfull to hear any man preach, eicher pub- likely or privately, becaufe they muft not be like thofe women in t Tim 3^,7. Timothy, ever learning, and never comming to the knowledge of the truth. 130. That'tis unlawfull to preach at all, fent or not fent out ( as in a Church-ftate ) but only thus, a man may preach as a wait- ing Difciple, that is, Chriftians may not preach in a way of pofltivc aflerting and declaring things, but all they may do> is to conf er,rea- fon together, and difpute out things. 131'. That 'tis unlawfull for the Saints tojoynin receiving the Lords (upper, where any wicked men are prefent,and that fuch mixt Communion doth pollute and defile them. 1 3 2. 'Tis unlawfull for the Saints to joyn in prayer where wic- ked men are, or to pray with any of the wicked. 133. That 'tis unlawfull for Chnflians to pray fo much as pri- vately with thofe (though godly ) that are not members of a trus Church, bat are members of the Church of England, and the Al- (emblies thereof. 1 34. That how ever conference and difcourfe may be had with all, yet 'tis not la wfuli to joyn in prayer or giving oi thanks* no not before meat, with thole (though otherwife acknowledged &Thkopinhnte. Saints and godly,and are members of Churches in theChurch- way) &** to firead that are not of the fame judgement and way. £&*«££ of 135. d That 'tis unlawfull for Chriftians to pray at all With any t>mM^„ others, (either as being the mouth in prayer, or as joy ning m pray- ^"^tTit, \r) though never fo godly, and of their own judgements, either many refufmgta in the pujiike Affemblies, or in their Families, unlcife fuch peribns t'ynvvilhbm'tr^ \ 1 • r 11 11 r • ■ ' * prayer sn a publtte Who prayed had an infallible Ipint, as the Apoltles. sijjembty, •where 136. That Christians are not bound to pray constantly every **?("***«*««**. , * r . 1 r i - upon thu ground. day at let times, as morning and evening, buconly at men times as and^uhm^s >u the Spirit moves them to it, and i( they finde not rJiemldves io Ptu,eofbimjo moved. in many aaies ana weekes together, tney ought not to bepnatready in the publi'\i Churches to leaue pray. 137, That wicked and unregenerate men ou^ht not to pray un- *ip*u*ir*n*tw- touodacail. tt^:ard.V\ 338. That cowfe totiepcopfs. 32 A Catalogue and Difcovery of c Thh hatb been littlyOraciifed in London among foms of the Seffa, - tic . OffiurchGevcrtt- n.tr.t Cornpi/fSamarit. f Revtl.i6.i9> The gnat City was fii- •videdinto three pais and {i'Al'.s find branches cfit^begin v itb \/,as{Pipery.iPre- fati'.tPau] Hobfo. rB>f'ov.ojT,uib, ?61* Of Revelations mtd mira-Atu 138. ThitaU ringing of Pfalms,as Davids, or any other holy longs of Scripture, is unlawfull, and not to be joyried with. 139. That the finging which Chriftians fhould ufe, is that of Hymns and fpirituall longs, framed by themfelves, compofed by their own gifts, and that upon fpeciall occafions, as deliverances, \<&c. fung in the Congregation by one of the Aftembly, all the reft being (ilent. 140. c That love-feafts, or feafts of love (with which the Lords Supper is to be adminiftred alio ) is a perpetuall ordinance of Chrift> at which only Church-members are to be prefent, and to partake. 141. That there is no diftinAion concerning Government of Ec- defiafticall and civil, for all that Government which concerns the Church, ought to be civil, but the maintaining of that diftin&ion is for maintaining the interefts of Church-men. 143. That a few private Chriftians, as fix or feven gathering themitlves into a Covenant and Church- fellowship have an abfo- lute entire power of the Keyes, and all Government within them- felves, and are not under any authoritative power of any ClaiTes, Synods, or generall Councels, whatfoever they do, or what waies loever they take. 145. f That the Presbytery and Presbyteriall Government, are the falle Prophet,and the«Beaft fpoken of in the Revelations : Pres- bytery is a third part of the City of Rome, yea that Beaft, in Revtl.11. that afcends,3nd ihili kill the two Witne{Tcs,namely the independents. 144. That there arc Revelations and vifions in thefe times, yea to lome they are more ordinary, and {hall be to the people of God generally within a while. 145. That the gift of miracles is not ceafed in thefe times, but thatiomeof the Sectaries have wrought miracles, and miracles have accompanied them in their Bantiime, &c> and the people of God (hall have power of miracles ihortly. 146. That anointing the lick with oyl by the Elders praying over them, with laying on of hands, is a Church-ordinance for Church members that are (ick,for their recovery. 147. ' FiS ordinary for Chriftians now in thefe da ies, with -Paul to be rapt up to the third Heavens, and to hear words unutterable, many Err$urs of the Sectaries. 3 5 unutterable, and they cannot well have alfurance or being Christi- ans, that have not found and had experience of this. 148. That Chriftian Magiftrates have no power at all to med- oftkedvU m*. die in matters of S religion, or things ecclefiafticall, but in civil f^u, ,f hifj;. only concerning the bodies and goods of men. ejic^nfidm &&. J . . to the Pari. Ar.onym. a»f to M.Prins i * Quer:es,p.%. ^is the Grounds of Independent Government attrbnt* n nhtrg to the fir att 'inChurch affair^ further tient'r.e llagiUr.rs upon occafan of an fixer in g >V^ fent Parliament doth ingrofle law- makings and alfo law-executing s\^.7%ideJbrTt into their own hands, contrary both to reafon, and the true mean- L f^nfrimtd, ing of the Law, the Free-men of En^l .ind ought not only to chute new members where they are wanting once every year , but alfo to renew and enquire once a year after the behaviour and carriage ofthofethey havechofen. And if they finde they never did any good, or are groundedly lufpe&ed to be unierviceable, chat then thofe that chute and fent them may have liberty to chuie more faithfull, able, and better men in their places. G 152. if 34 A Catalogue mdDifcovery of Of Marriage and •/ Parents ani children. m Vid, Milt ant OfWarr%'nil of 252. If God command fuch a thing to be done in his Word, and the Magiftrate now come and command the fame to be done* though a Chriftian ought to have, and would have done it,becauie f of Gods command, yet now he ought not to do it,becaufe the Ma- giftrate commands it. 153. All the earth is the Saints, and there ought to be a com- munity of goods, and the Saints (hould fn-are in the Lands and E- ftates of Gendemen, and rich men. 154. m That 'tis lawfull for a man to put away his wife upon indiipofition, unficnene or contrariety of minde arifing from a cauie in nature unchangeable; and for difproportion and dead- neffeoffpirit, or fomething diftaftefuli and averfe in the immuta- ble bent of name ; and man in regard of the freedome and eminen- cy of his creation,is a law to himfelf in this matter, being head of the other lex, which was made for him, neither need he hear any judge therein above himfelf. 155* Tis lawfull for one man to have two wives at once. 156. That children are not bound to obey their Parents at all, if they be ungodly* 15 7. That Parents are not to catechife their little children, nor to fee them to read the Scripture,or to teach them topray,but mud let them alone for God to teach them. 15 8. ' Tis unlawf ull for Chriftians to defend religion with the Sword, or to fight for it when men come with thciword to take iz away, religion will defend it felf. 1.5 p. 'Tis unlawful! for Chriftians tofight,and take up arms for their laws and civil liberties. i£o. 'Tisunlawfulltofightata-ll,ortokillanyman,yeato kill any of the creatures for our ufe, as a chicken, or on any other oc- casion. 161,. That ufing.of fet formes of prayer prefcribed is Ido- latry. 162, Davids faying? / am a Worm, andno man muft be under- ftood literally : y ea, he was both a man, and no man in the fame literail fente. 1 63 . That the Scripture fpeaks but of one kinde of faith. 1 %» Some of the Sectaries in London do hold, That in Suffolk^ there is a Prophet raifed up to come and preach the everlalting GofpeL many Err ours of the Sectaries . 3 5 Gofpel to them, and heftayes but for a vocaii call from Heaven to fend him, which is expe&ed daily, and that this man is that Pro- phet (poken of in the Scripture, 1 ^.25. that Prophet in that Scri- pture, diftinguifhed fromChrift and£//*w, is this man raifedup in Sufiolke* 165. That it could not (land with the goodnefle of God, to damne his own creatures eternally. 166. That God the Father did reign under the Law, God the Son under the Gofpel, and now God the Father and God the Sen are making over the Kingdom to God the holy Ghoft, and he il*all reign and be poured out upon all flefh. 167. That there (hall be a generall reftauration, wherein all men (hall be reconciled to God and faved,only thole who now be- keve and are Saints before this reftauration (hall be in a higher con- dition then thofe that do not beleeve. 168. That 'tis not lawfull for aChriftian to be a Magiftrate, but upon turning Chriftian he fhould lay down hisMagiftracie; neither do we read after Cornelius was baptized ( though he were a Centurion bef ore,and a man in command and authority jthat ever he mcdled any more with his band ca/i'd the Italian band. 169. Man loft no more by the fall, then all the reft of the whole creation fell into with Adum, all the world being condemned to death and defolation, yea the h.avens and the earth alfo : fothat you may as lately conclude that all the whole creation loft life and lalvation to glorification by Adams tranlgreflion, as to conclude that man loft lalvation by 9^ dams tranfgreftion. 170. Mun hath not by ( hrift brought unto him eternall life and falvation, but only inch a life as all the whole creation hath toge- ther with him, for the (econd zSldam hath not purchafed eternal life to glorification for man. 171. All the creacurts fhali sffuredly partake of the Gofpel of n^ , ld$e peace, and that our Lord the great Prophet fpake fomething to ErrlunvlLdt* this purpcle, when he iaith, uo preach the gof pel to every crea- or adminilter the Lords Supper out of their own particular Congregations, neither preach mmifterialiy, but as gifted bre- thren ,out of their own Church, with many fuch errours of the Church way ) but becauie they are but light in companion, I will no: name them, I could relate alfo to you other errcurs,:hat have been reported to m: and others byhontft underftanding men, to have been vented (and ?cis likely enough they may beaue) as that Jcis lawful! for wives many Err ours of the Sectaries. 37 wives to give without their husbands confer) ts, fomething out of their husbands eftates, for the maintenance of the Church and Mi- nifters whereunto they belong: as that the Lords Prayer, called andcryed up by many to be(o, it could not be the Lords Prayer in regard there was a petition for pardon of (ins, which Chrill would not have taught, or words to that purpofe; as alio that if a man were ftrongly moved by the fpirit to kill, to commit a- dultery,e£r. and upon praying againft it again and again it conti- nued, and yet was it-ill ftrongly prefkd, he fhouid then do it $ but becauie I have not thefe upon (o good grounds,nor fuch a concur- rence of circumftances, or further confirmation upon enquiry, I therefore forbear to put them down particularly in the Catalogue of Errours, or to affert them with that authority. I might here alfo annex to all thefe Errours many Expofitions of Scripture given by the Sectaries in their Sermons and private meetings, but I will only give two; 1. That of Rom.S.2. The law of the Spirit of lift, hath freed me from the law of finne and death, that is (*as was expounded ) from the morallLaw. 2. That of J oh. 5. 3 9. Search the Scriptures, for in tiemye thinks ye have et email lift ; you thinke to have, that was their thought and mi(lake} not thac Chrift; approved it,that eternall life was to be had in the Scriptures. A Catalogue of the Blasphemies of the Sectaries. NOw betides thefe Errours and Herefies laid down, many oi them being Blafphemies (as the Reader cannot but have obfcr- ved in perufing their Catalogue) there have been manyblafphe.- mies and blasphemous fpeeches vented by Sectaries feveraii wayes, both by writing, preaching, conference and difcourfing, andiomc fo horrid and abominable, in inch adefpitcfull, (coiling, fearful! way, that I tremble to thinke of them5, and (hall forbear to name them : And indeed within thefe four laft years in England there have been blalphemies uttered of the Scriptures, the Trinity, each perlon of the Trinity >both of Father, Son and holy Gholt, of Gods eternall election, of the Virgin CMary, the ApofUes and holy Penmen of Scripture, of Baptilme, Prayer, the miniftery of the Word,and the Minifters of all the Reformed Churches, of the Government of the Church, and of theChnftisn Magiftrates : In £ome books printed and difperled up and down, there are featfuii G 3 blafphemiesj. 38 A Catalogue and Difcovery Oj lArvaigKYMHl ef TA«Befl with hit Jianufcripu were fem upUii fum- tner y and u iythi purUiment com- tftitttd to the Gate • houft. Heteflegrapby, or 1)efcrtpl.of Heret, 4tni SeUarku blafphemies ; as in the ^Arraignment ofperfecution, The Sacred SjnodicallDecretnll, Martins E echo &c. prof aning and abufing the holy and dreadfuil Name of God in a mod fearfull manner, (coring at the holy Ghoft, fent in a Cloak-baggefrom Scotland, making a moft blalphemous Prayer, wherein the Pallion, Death, Refurrection and Aicenfion of Chrift are in a fcomng way alluded unco, with many others which I will not foul paper with tranferi- bing. ] n fome Manuicripts of one Paul Befi, there are moft hor- rid blafphemies of the Trinity, ofChrift, and of the holy Ghoft, calling the Doctrine of the Trinity, a myftery of iniquity, the three headed Cerberus, a fiction, a traditionof Rome, Monfirum hi* forme, trifirme, with other horrid expreflions borrowed from hell, not fit to be mentioned. There was a fearfull bialphemous (coifing fpeech of God the Father, Son}and holy Ghoft, ipoken by one Clarke ( as I remember the name ) given in to a Committee of Parliament, in way of complaint in writing, with a hand iubferi- bed, and one witneftedic before the Committee, but I forbear to relate it. Mr Paget in his Hereftographj, Epiftle Dedicat. fpeaks of one committed for mocking at Chrifts Incarnation, the parti- culars whereof, though I have been told from Mr Paget, yet I judge it beft to conceal.There have been many blafpheming Speech- es, in a way of derifion of the holy Ghoft, calling k fiabile numen, and asking what kinde of bird it was ? whether but I dare not (peak it. The holy Scriptures are by many in thefe times (kighced and feoiied at ( that grows and fpreadsmuch) cail'd the golden Caife, that there are many contradictions and lyes in them, that they are no better then a Ballad, that they can make as good Scriptures; that place in Gen 6. 6. where *ns laid, (W repented that he mate max was uncrue-(o other places of Scripture. The Do- ctrine of Gods eternal! Election and Prxieftination hath been call'da damnable errour.The Virgin Alary hath been called a the Apoftoks have been call'd and they couid write as good Scriptures as the Apoftles; upon occafion of quoting that Scri- pture mRam 7. of Pauls complaining of (in, it riath been aniwer- edj Paul was anovice,and that was his weaknefl'e, and that TV//// ■under ftood not Chrift in the Promife, and that he for his part un-v derftood themyftcry of God in Chrift better then S< Paul. When zhnz Scripture in Qrd.% 12. was objected to one that pleaded for liberty many Errours of the Sectaries* jp liberty of confcience, the anfwer was, he thought the Apoftle was in a great paflion. A Minilter in Hart fir dfbire bringing a place of Scripture againft an Anabaptift, to confute him in fome opinion- he held, the Anabaptift confeffed he could not anfwer it, but faid, it was the weakntffe of the Apoftle, and there he wanted the fpiric. Another Sectary denying the Refurrection of chedead, and fome or the Church coming to admoniih him of that errour, and bring- ing Scripture to prove it, he anfwered, This is Scripture to you, but not to me. Pceiobaptifme hath been blafphemed by many reproachfull fpeeches : the Lords Prayer hath been fkightly and fcornfully fpoken of : the whole Miniftery of all the Reformed Churches, with their Ordinacion, worke of preaching,^, fcorned and abufed in feverall Pamphlets : the Presbyteriall and Synodicall Government, reproached in all vilde and fcoffing language, call'd devillifb, antichriftian, and all to naught, refem- bled to the beaft in the Revelation : the Civil Government and Magiftrates have been blafphemed, with their Ordinances,Orders the fupream Court of Judicature the Parliament call'd Anti- chriftian, and the Committee of Examinations jeared, by wa^ of comparing it to the Court of Inquiiition, and to the High commilfion: the folemn, iacred and Nationall Covenant of the Kingdoms, derided, blaiphemed in many Pamphlets, that many pages would not contain them. But I will not trouble the Reades; to name any more of them :M Prjn in his fnjhDifcovery of New Lights, hath extracted many parlagts or this kinde ouc of th& Pamphlets of the Sectaries, and in a libellous book entituled Eng- land* Birthright, theres more ftuffe of the fame kinde. Now having pre(ented the Reader with the Errours and Bla- fphemies; before I come to the Practices of the Sedaries, I will relate (omc few PafTages in the Prayers of the Sectaries, which were vented either in the publike Aftemblies and Churches, or in their private Church meetings, all within the compafte of a> twelve-moneth,or thereabouts. Some Pajfagts in the Prayers of the Sectaries* ANi though we are difcountenanced by the Civil Magiftrste ^S?/? ( which is a great thing ) after they have had our eftates, and clutch 'be™ L our blood, yet Loxd^c, When the blindcmwi was thruft cm of. \^TJIsm the. hm*gK 40 A Catalogue and Dijcovery of It VVOi the Synagogue by the Pharifees, Jefus Chrift met him ; fo though we are thruft out of the Common AlTemblies and mens affe&ions who formerly loved us,d-r. Let thy Spirit teach us, we may look four, five years from an AfTembly or men before they teach \\s,&c. Though they may withhold thy Truth in Pohcie,yet thy Spirit can. teach us if all the Minifters in the world hold their peace, &c. Thou haft triumphed gloriouflyby a defpifed Army, not only by our enemies, but our fecming friends, who indeed were our reall enemies, vilifying thole men whom thou hail been pleafed to ho- nour, &c. Another Independent Minifter in his prayer pray- ed, that the Presbytery might be removed, that Chrifts King- dom might be kc up. Another 1 ndependent Minifter about the _ thefrji end or September U% gave God thanks for breaking the neck of 'ietitionofmazy that wretched Petition of the Citizens. August laft the ioch day, ""»$3a£g being presently upon Lilburns committing to New-gate, at the Government* Knowles Church in Sr HeHevs on a Lords day Mr Knowles prayed ^M%!£ thefewords,ortothistfrccl:, Lord,bring thy fervant Lilburne out fitael in scp- of prifon, and honour him Lord, tor he hath honoured thee. This tcmb. 14. jafj. montth '^December, one of the Independent Minifters in his prayers at aLeclure,two or three feverall Ledures, prayed to God that the Parliament might give liberty to tender confeiences. One of the Independent Minifters at his Church- meeting in a houfe, gave thanks unto God for the liberty of conscience granted in t»^f- merica&vA faid,Why,Lord not in England is well as in America? or words to that purpofe. Another Independent Minifter in his Prayer put up this Petition, O Lord make the Parliament friends to the Saints. d May % 5, 1645. An Independent Minifter pray ins AThis prayer was r , _ .. 7 j r> j ij i , -r» F ■ & the ant Lecture for the Parliament, prayed tnat God would keep the Parliament after- m. ii>hn from grieyjng the Saints, or doing any acts that might make them S°co7em^ fad; thai they for whom fomany prayers and praifes had been facet. pUC Up by the Saints, might not now grieve them. April 24. The lame Independent Minitter in his prayer after Sermon, prayed, That now God had delivered us both (nameiy,the Presbyterian and Independent ) from fuch bondage and opprcilion, we might not be guilty of bringing our brethren into bondage, left the Lord carry us back again into Egypt for it.The lame prayed onAuguft 1. joyning Parliament and AfTembly together, That chey might do nothing, but what tie Saints foould rejoyce in, and be glado£ About many Errours of the Sett wits. 4 1 Aboiu the beginning of September lad:, a Reverend Minifter of the AiTembly who was an ear witneffe related iz, and laid he would acquaint the Commiflloners of Scotland with k ; that an Inde- pendent Minifter,either in his prayer or Sermon, uied words to this cffcftofthcfr**/, That it was juft with God to bring this ovei> ^*2jj throw upon Scotland, becaufe of their beating their fcllow-ier- */Monuonc. vants ; and that they could not be content with luff ering their bre- thren to enjoy their liberty ,but mult have a domination. Having given the Reader an account of many Errours and bh- pr*8ifit ofibi fphemies of the Sectaries, with fomePailages in their Prayers; 1 s"Unu* come now to relate many of their Practices. But the Reader mud not conceive I can fet down ail, or that any one man (although of far greater abilities andleifure, having alio fairer opportunities of converting among them, with leiTe fufpicion obferving their wayes, then my felf ) is able to do it. They have many depths, wiles and methods which I know no^nor cannot finde out ; there are many windings and turnings of the ferpent, crooked goings, in and out, off and on, here and there, which I cannot trace, the way Proy i8 1 of the ferpent upon arocl^ is too wonder full for me, and which I know not. They ,ProteHs-\ike, turne themfelves into all (hapcs and forms, and according to feverall occafions and times, have differ- ent humours and tempers, fometimes complying fo that one would thinke all difference would quickly be at an end and they were ours, fometimes fo far off and back again, as caufes wonder and amazement in the beholders. I have been told from godly and wile men, who have had much to do with (ome of them, and have profiled to fet them(elves to ftudy and to obierve them (men who are moderate enough, and have a lpeciall love tofome of them) that they know not what to make of them, they are ftrange men, nor cannot fadom their depths, and therefore 'tis not to be expeded from me a plain open-hearted man (who hate tricks, playing under-board, referves and defignes, whofe motto is that of the Pialmift, Let integrity and uprightne-f[e pre- ferve me, for I^ait on thee, and never ftudied Al^chivel, nor am Pf3!*3-'-t'' not verfed in the Jefuits Politicks ) that 1 ihouid dL'cdver all their practices and wayes : Neither was it my intention or fcope in wri- ting of this book, to {peak ail 1 know of their practices and Wayefo (for I took a relolution in the entrance of this worker not 10 be h too a 2 A Catalogue and Difc every of too large* that To the more might both buy and read it, and my purpoie is hereafter (God f paring me hfe,health and liberty, for the benefit both of the prelent and fucceeding generations ) to write an Hiftoricall narration of all the Proceedings and wayesof the Engiifli Sedaries, both in England and beyond the leas, frorrv the firft year of the Parliaments fitting, till the time of the letting forth that Hiftory, and hive already laid in many mate- dais, and kept an exad account of the moft remarkable paffages tending that way; and my earneft defire is to all the godly Or- thodox Readers, into whole hands this book fhall come, who are enemies to feds and fchifmes, and lovers of truth,peace and order, whether Gentlemen of Committees in the feverall Counties, or Souldiers in the Armies, or Minifters in the feverall parts of the Kingdom, or other godly Chriftians, that they would be pleafed within this three or four moneths next following, to communi- cate tome ail the certain intelligence they have, of the Opinions* wayes and Proceedings of the Sectaries ; and I promife faithfully, that whatever agreement or condition be made by any who im- parts any matters to me (as namely for concealing of their names, or forbearing the relation offuch and fuch particulars, as place,e£r. whatever they be) I will moft facredly obierve, and they fhall finde me both fecret and true to them, for I fear God, and" dare not violate my promife ) only for the prefent to give the world a tafte and try ail o{ the Practices of the Sectaries ( for upon lome of the heads of their Practices and wayes which I in this prefent Difcourie name ) I could write upon each of them a book, in giving many inftances and examples for a proof and confirma- tion of their truth. Now I might in the firft place make a Paralell between the practices and wayes of our Sectaries, and the Sedaries of old in the primitive times ( especially the Donatifts ) as alfo between them and the Jefuits, them and the Arminians of the Netherlands, them and the Prelates and their Court party, them and the prefent Ma- Ugnaots i yea, them andfomeof the bad Empercurs, as Julian, and could (hew fuch an agreement in their practices and wayes, treading fo juft in their pathes and ftcps, as if none of them were dead or put down in England, only now aded among us un- der new names, and under other habits and formes, but itill the old, many Erreurs of the Stearics* 4? old, a likeneffc and fpirit of the Donatifts, Jefuits, Arminians, Prelates and Court party were alive, and transformed into many of the Sectaries : And indeed to do this fully would deferve a Traclate by itfelf, which I fhali leave to be done by fome other more able hand ; or elte if no other take up fuch a fruitfull Argu- ment, I may flnde (ome opportunity hereafter to treat upon it ; only before I name the particular Practices of the Sedaries,as I have done their Errours, 1 will hint lomeof the more (peciall Pa- ralels between the Se&aries and the Donatifts, Jefuits, &c% Firft for the Donatifts and fome other fectaries of the Primitive times, i. Our Sectaries and they agree in their complaints of Perfecution of their (chifme:che Donatifts would al way es be com- plaining of that, as a Angufline {hews it in many places of his learned works againft them ; and our Sectaries in their Sermons, Prayers, Pamphlets, Difcourfes, Petitions, ail crying out of Perfe* cution, and accufing the Orthodox Presbyterians ot Perfecution ; yea,when for their feditious, tumultuous, libellous fcorfing, wic- ked lying, fcandalous reports, books and practices they have been queftioned, there's nothing in their mouthes but perfecution, and unheard of profecutionof the godly. I am of the minde if any of them (hould come to be impriloned and hanged, for Healing, kil- ling a godly Presbyterian, plotting againft the Parliament and City, to feize upon their Forts or (ome Parliament men, fome or other of them would cry out of perfecution. 2. They agree in their furious outrages and violences againft all that oppole their way. Learned men know what Circumcelliaries there were among the Donatifts, and to what a height they came, as b AngnHine relates ; and among the fe&aries there are outragious vicious men, and fuch that in the Churches have committed many in- folencies, allaulted and abufed iome Minifters in their own hou- fes, and in other places where they have met them : but I muft not enlarge. 3. They agree in their high flatteries of themfelves and their party, extolling them and crying them up to the Heavens; the Donatifts did oleo adorationttm impinguere capita, as c Attru- ihVf*fpeaks; and the Sectaries of our times are the incompara- ble flatterers and admirers of their own party, have written and fpoken fuch praiies and flatteries ot their fide, as have come almoft to blaiphemie j buc theiephrafes are ordinary, As precious men as H * any * AuguA. lib.t, contra Pamcn- cap.8,9,io. lib.*, dc Baptidno con- tra Donatifts*, cap.io. lib.i con- tia Pctil. cap.io„ cap.f9.cap.s3. b Auguil. lib.v. contra Parmen. cap.ii.lib 2 cap. jjtf. contra Jiccras Pettlian.lib.a.cap. 20. lib. 1. cap. 24. eAuguft contra Pc(;Iiati#I.b»8. cap.19. 44 A Catalogue and Difcovery of W'.&ugufl.l-.b.?. *owra Paruen. r &uguft. $ontra Parmen. / Auguii, contra literal - VJde.Iir Guil. ApoU.&Rcfjionn any upon earth, Men of a mod precious anointing, None fince the Aporfles times like them for gifts and abilities ; yea fome have not fticked to fay, they were beyond the Apoftles, and it Jelus Cbrift himfelf were on earth he could hardly preach better, that they lead as holy lives as Saints and Angels in Heaven. 4. In then? great partiality, pra&ifing that themlelves which ihey condemne in others. d Avguftine (hews this in many places of the Dona- tifts : I could give many inftances of our Sectaries inthiskinde, crying out of preaching and printing by the Orthodox againft them, and yet preaching and printing allkinde of things againfl: them ; fpeaking againfl: petitioning the Parliament,or interpofing in any thing before them, by way of Petition, or having meetings for that end (as youmaytinde in fome of the News books the pensioners of the Sectaries,) and yet themlelves in a disorderly tu- multuous way, being but private particular perfons ( neither bodies, nor ibcieties repreientative, nor reall) have had many tlrange meetings, and drawn up Petitions with claufes and para- ges medling with the affairs of Parliament, in a kinde charging themy and taking cognizance of things of a high nature done in Pailiament, before the time they ought, with many a luch like: but I take off my hand. 5. eIn their appealing from Ec- clefiaflicaii Judges to the temporall : So the Sectaries, from Gaf- fes and Synods to the Parliament, or fome remporall Judges ap- pointed by them. 6. In their unwiliingncfTe to have their a- dions or writings examined by any judicious learned men, but keeping things in the darke. Epiphamus retembles Sectaries to a Moule, a feeble creature tnat doth much hurt by keeping under ground, but if once above ground, then 'tis contemptible and ea- sily taken : Some of the Sectaries.- have been provoked enough to fet down what they would have, both by earned: intreaties from beyond (eas^and at home, by commands in akinde,by upbraidings for not doing it, and yet to this day they cannot be brought to it • gnd 1 judge Jtis for theieReafons : x. Becaufe they cannot welt agree among themlelves of any iyftem or body. 2. Becaufe they know not how long they ihall be of this minde, nor how much further yet they may go. 3. Becaufe what they fetdown may offend many of their own party, and loofen all the reft of the feels fcom them. 4. Becaufe fome Grandees and Perfons of note (who are many Err ours of ike Sectaries. 45 are gone further,) will not be well pleafed at ir. 5, Becaure when once given under their hands, and that afcer (o long expedition, ic will be judged by all rationaii men their utmoft ftrength(which if ltfhould have aniwer upon anfwer, as no doubt it will) and che weaknefle ot it diicovered and laid bare, they are loft among many, and will lurler exceedingly in the efteem of all intelligent un- prejudiced men, whereas now by being fiient, they bare the world in hand, as if they had fome great matter of ftrength • many before they fpeak and utter themfelves are thought to be wife, and to have much in them, who when rhey have once fpoken, areea- fily feen thorow. 7. In their quoting Auchours for them, who are acknowledged for the main to be proreffedly againft them; and in their quoting pceces of Authcurs, and not the whole, leaving the later part which would explain their meaning ; thus the Dona- tifts did *Cypriart9znd yet he was much againlt them as he prof ef- fes; and io Axgufiine complains or the Donatifts, Integra* nan allegarunt Scriptures ;ihus the Authcur of Sions Prerogative roy- aU, quotes many Presbyterians for feverall things, who profcffcdly were of another way ; and one Mr E . ( as the Reader may obferve in an Extract of one of the printed Letters) quotes the Churches •of France tScctland&Q. for the Independent way,who are known robe profciledly againft it : and io a the Authour of The bounds of liberty of Confidents the Ley dtnfes bProfefI. for him>who profel- fedly fpeak againft it, and in c one fentence he leaves out fome three times words all of them belonging to one fentence, which would (hew the (enleof choie Learned men to be againft him ( as noto- rious a falfifiacation as 1 thinke is to be found in any Papift,) and fo Wjohn Goodwin in his point of Juftifkation quotes Calvin .Bace-r, and others,who are known ex profzjfp3dto be of another judgement; and he quotes e my Antapclogie with other Authours, to juihfie his opinion, whenas I have profeffediy at large fpoken againft what he ^% h P'< maintains ; and among other places which he perverts I fhail name ale^Um^t one, where he cites the former part of the fentence, leaving cut the later, which had he but named, would have been an evident con- futation of him, dealing juft with me as the devil did by Chrift f, P (a/91 6. leaving out the laft part, to k^eep thee in all thy )bajes. 2. The Sectaries and the Jefuites agree in many things, 1 . As the Jefuits are famous for fending out EmifTaries into ieverall Coun- h l tries "Lih.i. deBaptif. contia Dcnac. lib. 2. deBaptif. a Boo\ taut* 1 he Ancient Bounds or lib. of Confc- b Title Paic c Svnopfis purior. 1 heolog.diPput. de Magi't, a the in- w.'.;d man and confeience with fpfrituallpuni/};,, a 6 A Catalogue and Difcovery ef tries to corrupt* not contenting themfelves to do mifchief at home; fo do our Sectaries fend forth their members into all Counties and places of this Kingdom, they lay hands upon them, and fend them as a Church ad to preach fuch and fuch errours, to rebaptize^c. 2. The Jefuits have their pittfraudej, holy deceits, for the propa- gating of their caufe, holy ftdions, made things to deceive the people ; fo have our Sectaries many for the fpreading of their par- ry. 3. The Jefuits infinuating among themfelves, get into great Noblemens houfes and acquaintance, into great Ladies and Gentle- womens, and into Princes Courts and Houfes, and follow ftate matters, meet to concrive andconfult, not preaching too much, nor following their ftudies too hard y fo do many of our Sectaries get into acquaintance and favour with great Noble men, Parlia- ment men, iollicite,follow them, worke by the great Ladies and Gentlewomen, coniult and debate of matters Civil,e£r. 4. The Jefuits are full of equivocations, mentall refervations, fay one thing but mean another, (peak things in afenfeof their own, dif- ferent from what 'tis in the common acception. 5. The Jefuits have alw3yes one plot or ochcr,never give out, are working adive men, if ci ofled in one, then are trying in another, and have many irons in the fire at once, that if one do not take another may, no- rhing difcourages them, but on they go • fo 'tis with the Sedanes of our time,adive nimble men,reftlefle fpirits, never without plots and fine defignes, withchilde of many at once, that if fome mif- carry,yet others may bring forth. 6\ Thejeluits will worke and ad where they are not thought to be, by others,and by inftruments untufpeded, not appearing themfelves, but bring about their ends io and by fuch, as a man would never dream of ; fo ourSedaries will not appear themfelves in many things, when yet the hand of foab is all along, but get their worke done by others, who alfo draw others to them. 7. The Jefuits make all things give place to their defignes, to advance the Catholike caufe, and (o they may compafle them, they are not mannerly to ftand upon tearms, but will take any perfon out of the way who ftand to hinder them, ufe feverail indircd means to efted what they have plotted, run great ventures and hazards but they will go thorow; fo the Sedanes of our times aredaringmen, will attempt things a Wife man would thinke they (hould be afraid of, will try to break any man,or worke him many Err ours of the Sectaries. 47 him out that ftands between them and home, do things otherwife againft their principles. The Sectaries and the Nether land Arminians agree; 1. The Armenians at firft flattered the Magistrates, declining Sy- vcet Ccua. nods and Ecclefiafticall Afkmblies ail they could, and ftiil J^ {^ appealing to the Civil Magiftrate, crying up the power of the Civil Hcdcfiaiiic*. Magiftrate in Ecclefiafticalls, alcribing to the Magiftrate theulti- ^Ther.4 Thd"# mate andhigheft Junldi&ion and power of giving judgement in viddiusdeEpif. matters purely Hccleliafticall , realoning that to the Magi- m^ni,0^^ ftrate alone immediately under Chrift did belong the judge- 5>«. ment , when conrroveriies of faith did arife in the Church, and they afperfed the Orthodox Minifters for not giving fo much : of this the Reader may finde enough in Voetlm and Veddita ; fo do our Sectaries, all of them are againft Synods, declining them ; ma- ny of them fay, they will in all matters of Religion give account to the Parliament, or to any Committee appointed by them ; and fay they give more to the Magiftrate then the Presbyterians, and in that kinde have odious infmuations to reflect upon Presbyte- rians. 2. The Arminians at firft broached but imall and fewer- rours,in companion, but in time,fome years came to vent all kinde oferrours almoft, Socinianerrours, and whatnot? fo our Secta- ries at firft were more modeft, but within thefe four years, efpe- cially thefe twolaft, how have they grown, and what they are fallen into, the forenamed Catalogue is furBcient proof. 3. The Arminians profciTcd referves, became Scepticks, were againft cer- tainty of faith, profcfled though this was their pre fen t judgement, they came to have, as our Divines have exprcfled, a monethly faith, nay an hourely ; this they now held, but they knew nut what they might hold to morrow or the next hour ; this principle of uncertainty in matters of Religion the Remonftrancs did hold forth in thole times of the troubles of the Churches in the Nether- lands, that fo they might ovcrtumeall forms and harmonies; that was one of the fcepticall rules of the Arminians, Dies dlcmdocet 5 . fo our Sectaries are all for new light and relerves, and multitudes of them are become meere Sctpcicks and Queftionifts, and wiii tell you this they hold (or the preient, but know not yet what they may kc>&e. 4. The Arminians could not be brought to fpeak ouc along while, nor to give what they would have, but hid them'elvcs in 48 A Catalogue and Vifcovery of in doubtfull phrafes, and were feared ntonfiri aliquU alere : when they ftood for and defired a Toleration, upon conferences and meetings they were put co it,togive in what they held,and all they held, they were profered at the conference holden at Delph fa- vour and Toleration, if they would give aflurance they defired on* ly forbearance in the five Points, but they could not be got to it; , to our Sectaries have forborne to this day, notwithftanding all means ufed, to fet down this we hold, this we will ftick to. 5. The Arminians in thofe times in the Low- Countries, infome Cities and Towns where they had power,per(ecuted the Orthodox, troubled them much ; fb do our Sectaries in Towns or places where they have power, perfecute godly Orthodox men, efpecial- ly if zealous againft the feels :0 how have fome Seclaries vexed,pla- gued and troubled many godly Ministers and people ieverall^waysl ] of which more under their particular Policies & factious Practices. 6. The Arminians had well nigh undone the Netherlands, and brought all to confufion,and had nor the old Prince of Orange been (lout and wife, even doing fomething beyond the ordinary way of his power; and upon the Synod oiDort determining the Magi- ftrate added the civiil fanclion,and ufed coercive power,that Coun- trey had been loft ; fa our Seclaries have by their errours, divi- fions and factions they have made among us hazarded all, and if God do not wonderfully put in,and be mercif uli to us, their wayes and courfes will undo us all. 7. The Net her /and Arminians would be Remonftrants, did write againft, complain of the Synod of Dort, that they couid not have their liberty, were not well dealt vvkhjcould not have fo fair a hearing ; how many books were written, how many afperfions were call: upon the Synod? And have nor, and do not our Seclaries wiite againft the Aifembly? com- plain by word of mouth?are not their mouthes full of fuch fpeech- es ? They cannot be heard, They have not had liberty to bring in their Qudlions,c^. ibme Churches,and having Hymnes ; in putting down all concea- f^\ e£™ i^' ved Prayer, and commanding bidding or Prayer, with a multitude »*« approved** of fuch like : fb our Sectaries are great I nnovatours.as changeable rfS^F^m! as the Moon, bringing into their Churches new opinions daily, new practices, taking away the old ufed in all Reformed Churches, and (ubftituting new ; taking away of tinging of Pfalms,3nd plead- ing for Hymnes of their own making ; bringing in anointing with oyl, bringing in their laying on of hands to give the holy Ghoft, with leverall other ftrange waves and practices, which the Reader (hall finde in this following difcourle, among the narra- tions of paflages and llories. 5. The Prelaticall faction and that Court Clergy were daring bold men, that durit venture almoit upon anything, upon counfelling to prorogue and break up Par- liaments in times of danger and diftraction, upon putting men out of Offices and places that were not for their turne, and to bring in others calculated for their meridian, upon corrupting Re- ligion and Laws at once, breaking in both upon the truth and the liberty of thefubjed at the tame time, upon any thing orperfon that ftood in their way : To our Sectaries many of them are daring men, have attempted and been upon highbufineiTes, about coun- felling and drawing up Petitions for adjourning ( as they call it ) the A.:.embly, in a time when thediftraclionsof this Church are fo infinite, and things (o unfetled ; as alfo have inferted ftrange paffagesinto other Petitions, which yet have not been prefented, others of the company oppoiing them; withfeverall other parti- culars which would be too large now to relate ; in one word, theres almoft nothing (which they have not and dare not venture on, that (lands in their light, and in the way of their defignes ; and I may fay of many of the Sectaries (fori do not mean all, as I i a have 52 A Catalogue mdDifcovery $f have faid before, fo I fay again, there are fomc good fouls tneerly Educed, who are nor of the Faction ) they have overpaffed the deeds of the wicked, not only walked after their wayes, nor done after their abominations, but have corrupted themfelves more then they 5 juftified the BiQiops and their f action, by falling into ihok opinions, and doing thofe actions in a high, bold and open way, which that faction never durft do for fear of the people* Next,the prefent Malignants and the Sectaries agree in the general! »* **& imprifonmenr, wi chout either acknowledging the iuliice, orpeti-{l^4X^ tioning for the mercy c£ the Houie of Commons ( a favour that I £« voyfira»ge in never heard or read of granted to any man before, and that I ^htiLffa^t thought had b.en a thing impoflible, even againll the fcidamentall he f*»»dfnm the Orders of the Houie, for a man committed by the Houie upon far Pm$$nljf*lll!%> idle offences, without petitioning , to be let free) ihould yet let a™ +-*c*n.§nd* forth a * hook to ail theworld5 jurying. hunldf in his former &'ZJ%r«T book, after a bold and -audacious marker abiding, apd bringing in tr dangerous insinuations relieving upon t-h; m. K**»Jv*eofibtm at tins iayi hath plurality ofp'accst a;b?tluir I defre oftbemtft #'vruiufily my, eur t'-^etm y of their great places are tbetrty and therefore I /;<•/.? ibey have zvt bad caufe io be angry uit%k me far us .*•«? iijpue at their havdy, beiv£ it was the f*A wherefore ihry v^ere ch->fn a-idtrujii •iLi&a. libit which tUer are f&j.'Vaio, Slide fa? %%, Jpeatiagoffome ■psjfages its AT*rti*mxT)c:larai< hoi copy tb'teffiffi&fyt&ft&Miikds'thittii, ij.ithj h cy'f.i'v bfkmeUy in I bet) bw&* j 4 A Catalogue and Difcovery of t>2Z.2t. yvbichlVxrraHt and Commitment (though made by afawmtee of the Hcufe of Commons) it as iHegall as aS thereil, and in my apprehenfisn againft the very tcnourand the true intent and meaning of the Petition of Right, and exprtfl/ aeawft the words oftbe Statuteofthe 4t.#/Ed $ -Again p»g.37- "But I havefeverall ttmtsbeen tmprtfonei both by Comrnateet and by the Vote of the Hsufe of Commw it ft If, to*vr*ry to a known Law made tbu prefent Par. liament by themfclves,againfl which there u atp>efvt no Ordinance puhlijh:d anddzdattd by them andthe Peers fit tbeco?niianceof: Ergo, I fay they are tied miuilice, according to tin tenair of this Lax, togiie me reparation again ft tbofc per rons that were chi?ftn[irt*msiiti,eiiher in Committees, or in the Houfe of Commons it [elf, to vole and ta^e away my Lbeety from me,c6ntrary to this Law 5 and f»r my part I do accordingly expeSl my reparation for my late caufelejje molefiations and imprifmmentt Pag.Ctf . I JhaU freely declare the mam reafm vvh-ch mifys me in being true to my tthenvife I defire not t* ma\c companions ) as any of them, and I conceive I ought not to be in bondage to any Law w Ordinonce that they thtmjelves will not Hand unto. 0 what enheard of Malignancies are thefel And fo Mr John Good' win in a Sermon hath uttered that againft the Parliament and the power of it, as opens a gap to all fleighting of their authority and power ; and I beleeve never was there any iuch fpeech from any before himfelf. 2. The Sectaries and Malignants agree in being bit- ter enemies of our brethren of Scotland, and of their Armies ; the Malignants we know look upon them with an evil eye, as the firft caute of all their mifery,and cannot give them a good word ; and all the world fees how the Sectaries hate the Scots, raife and fpread evil reports upon them, are as thorns in their fides, heavy enemies, obltrudting them in all places where they have power, deviling all wayes to be rid of them, and ftudying what in them lies to make a breach ; I could tell the Reader many fpeeches, do- ries of the Sectaries in t,his kinde in reference to our brethren of Scotland, but it needs not,for they that run may read it. 3. They agree in this, rather to have Epiicopall Government and a Tole- ration, then aftricTPresbyteriall and thorow Reformation-, we all know this would pleaie AuUchs and his fellows, and I thinke J can prove from good hands ( and it I ihouid name them, the Se- ctaries would fay fo to) that fome of the prime Ministers in the way of the Sects have (aid, That Epifcopail Government and a Tole- ration of their way would give them content. The Malignants and Sectaries agree in independency, the Malignants now turne Independents, and profefle they are for Independency, and for this 1 could quote feverallfpeeches, and name iome Malignant Mini- fters, and others of note who are for independency againft Pref- bytery ; but this is now fo commonly known, that Erltanicus, a man who hath done them many good offices, and cried up feverall of Many Err ours of the Sectaries. 55 of them, confeffes in one of his Pamphlets about a fortnight nnce, that the Malignants are turned Independents ; hardly a Malignant Pried aboutTown,but is for Independency againft Presby rery-JLaft- ly,TheSectaries agree with Julian theApoftaca and fome other ene- mies of Chriftians in thefe four things. 1. Julian was a great fcofrer at the Scriptures, Chrift and Chriftian Religion, as Ecclef. (lories mention; and many of the Sectaries of our time, are fearfull (cof- fers and mockers at all things that are good, Scriptures, Trinity, Chrift,Miniftery,Ordinances.,what not ? there was never a greater generation of (coffers at Religion then many of the Sectaries of our times, witneiTe many printed books, as Arraignment of ^Perfecution, and his fellows, the Ordinance ofTithi B if mount - ed,' befides many fcorring books againft the Presby teriall Go- vernment, as the two brethrens MS. with others of that kinde. 2. a Julian was a great enemy to the learning of Chriftians, u(ed * Theodore* hh?, all means to overthrow learning ; (o do many Sectaries in our time. ^lt^%b'hCap'7' 3. He attempted to get the Militia out of the hands of the Or- vetuic, neGaiX thodox Chriftians. as Theodoret in his Ecclef. Hiftory relateth : s^ou^noflri and the fectarks have and do ufe all means within their pow- confer ^min- er to get the CMilitia out of the hands of the Orthodox into ™£al^r p°cti* their hands folely, of which I could tell tales. 4. b Julian was am 'pwiofopbu' the ereat patron of Toleration for ail fects, Donatifts, Arians, "mdi("rc™- fcunomians, he was the great man for hbertas perdmoms (as rum, inquit.pen, sAuguHine calls it ) the Donatifts fled to him, he gave them jjj£,eftrin PJ?' publike liberty of Churches, he call'd back from banilliment mar! fiqJto,1" zsEtius the great leader of the Eunomian herefie, and whether all ™fi/^u^?J-f" the fects are not agreed with him in that, as alto with Valens ano- munkUoSiaao* ther wicked Emperour, who was for Toleration of all but the po{^ru[cip,UI,t" Orthodox, I leave to their own confeiences to determine. Uam tuiuTg^m, ' qua nandavir, ue onirics GaliUei,, idcftChrifbani £ militia pcllercntur. b lulian the sfpoflata therefore cranied a Tolerant* the lib r.y efperiiti&n («Auftin calls it) becauj- he did hope by that means to destioy Cbrijtan Religion, Au«.,ft.E- pifl.i55, luh anus inquit defercor ChritU, ex in'micuf, harreries libcrtarem perdition; s permifit, & tunc Bafi- lios ha;re:icis red Jsdir, quando tcmyla Da?momis : eo modo putans Chrittianum nom:n pofie pen'ie, de tern's ipfi vericati Eccle&e de qua la .lis fuerat invtdercr, & (acrilegas d:ffetfiones libera* cncpcrmhtcret. Pratcclus Elcnch/rteieti:. pxgtitf. Infianus Arctium authorcm &dicem barren's Eunomi?s& Conflantii fencentia damna— turn, & inexilium actum, perqua.n benignis lulcris reyocavir, & pubiica veaurareduxit : Epifcopoi fub Conftan- tio exilic mulfeatos revocavir, & in tubes if ua» tedire permifit. Aiqj id illc nonnriferecordia fceit,i7cut colli* gcre ett, : fed ut Epilcnos inter (e committees ad iotcfliaum armaret belfum,& fuis ipfa dilTidiis Ecclefialabe- factaretur. c The Emperour V 'aleni did grant freedom of ReSgumto all btretict\i, yt* and Heathen, but was agrtaX enemy to the Orthodox, Theoda.er. Hilt Ecclef. Lb 4xap.11 Valens impunitatein concefin Genrilibus', JudaHs, & aliis quibu'qj qui nomen Chiiffianum fibi aflumentes do3ri nam Evangelic? rcpugnantcm prseoicabant.-Sciiu autcta Apoilolic* dowrina propugnatQiibus lyxannuiftc fe he-Hem pulwk, And 56 A Catalogue and Vifioverj of And as 1 have made a Paralell between the Sectaries of out time,andtheDonatifts,Jefuits,d^. fo I might now at large fhow in all the forenamed particulars, an Antithefis and Diffimilitude between the godly Orthodox Presbyterians, and the Donatifts, Jeiuits, Arminians, Prelates,^, but I dare not enter into it for fear my book be too voluminous, having already exceeded thac proportion which I at firit intended when I began it; all I (hall do then in point of paraleli, is but to hint a tew things ( which I defire the Reader well to obferve ) of the difference in the carnage and behaviour thefc four years laft paft all along of the Presbyterians both to the Honourable Houles, and the Sectaries ; and of the Sectaries to the Parliament and the Presbyterians ; and for the truth of what I fay, I dare appeal to all the world, yea and to the confciences of many Sectaries themlelves. Though the Presbyterian party from the beginning of the differences between the King and Parliament, among thofe whoprofeffe toftandfor Reformation and for the Parliament hath been, and (till is ( with- out all compare} the greater part of both Kingdoms, the body of both AiTemblies and Mmifters, the body of the people in Cities and Countries (efpecially of perfons eminent in place andquili- ty ) yea and the Parliaments too ( of the Parliament of Scotland cherts no queftion;) the Parliament of Eng Und alio, after advice had with the Aflembly, hath declared for Presbytery, having vo- ted and formed into Orders, Directions and Ordinances, ieverali parts and pieces of Presbyteriall Government ;) yet for all this have not the Presbyterians caken upon them to let up the Govern- ment in that manner and Way as they conceive and judge to be molt agreeable to the word, drawing m the people with them, but have waited upon the Parliament all this while for the Ceding of the Churci),addrt fling themlelves in moll humble manner by way of petitioning,and that both Allembly,Court of Common-Councel, Minifters> people, and when fomaimestheir hopes have been de- ferred beyond all expectation, and have met with fome dilap- pointments and difcouragements in their Petitions about feeling theCharch, as by a Vote paffed again!: one Petition before it was prefented, as ia*all thankes given for another, and little refpect ihewed to a third > bciides trie Sectaries iniuking over them and their Petitions, branding them in Pulpits, in the weekly News- books, many Emurs of the ZeB tries* 5 7 books, and in their daily difcourfes, notwithftanding whatever they might conceive of neglects and harduiageon the one hand, and of great abui'e of them by the Sectaries on the other hand, yet they have taken all patiently, waiting {'till, petitioning ftill in all humble and thankefull manner, forbearing to print what Was prefented ( though there was no Order nor command againft it) out of their tender relped of giving any offence or dilplea- ling the Parliament ( though in the mean time they fuffered much by milreports of their proceedings both for matter and manner:) The Presbyterian party (though the Adcmbly of Divines, the Reprefentative body of the City the Court of Common-C ounce!, the Miniltery of the Kingdom, thoufands and ten thculands of godly well affected perions, the Kingdom of Scotland, yea all the Reformed Churches own that way,) hath not upon the fore-named things and others "(as the notgive- ing leave upon a Petition to print an Anlwer to cheRemou- ftrance of the Independents, in which the Aflembly is extreme- ly wronged) broke out either againft the Parliament, faying they will fight no longer,^, fpeaking their pleafure of them, drawing up all their grievances to a head, and letting them forth in print ; or againft particular Members, falling upon cheai by name, making them known to the world, whom they con- ceive and have been informed of, to be the great hinderers of their deiires, and (ticklers againft them j but even as becomes Chriftians have taken all patiently, waiting upon God and the Parliament. And as the carriage of the Presbyterians hath been thus in all humble duty and high refpect to the Houfes of Parliament, and every Member in their places (for I have not yet heard of any Presbyterian that hath tingled out any one Member by name, to abufe him in print, as fome Sectaries have done both particular Members and the whole Houte of Com- mons ) fo huh it been with ail love, brotherly kindnelle, ten- der neffe, refpect and forbearance to the Sectaries ; and coni- dering that the Presbyterians were, as I have fncwed before, both of the Ministers and people Handing for Reformation, the body of both Kingdoms, having the command and power of the Pulpits, 10 great an intereft in the people, &c. their iove and forbearance to the Sectaries hath been admirable $ when k the 58 A Catalogue and Dif cover j of the Independents were but few, and other Sectaries a fmall num- ber in the firft and fecondyear of this Parliament, fome halfea (core or dozen Minifters, three or four hundred people* the Pref- byterians gave them the right hand of fellowfaip, admitted them to their meetings, opened their Pulpit doors unto them, iliowed all brotherly refped of love and kind nefle to them, even more then to molt of their own way, condefcending to fuch a motion, as to forbear preaching and printing againft their opinions and way, making them ( who were 4> fmall and in- confiderable a party) as it were an equall party, putting them into the balance with themfelves; they appeared not to hin* der their being cholen to be generall Ledurers for this City in feverall great Churches; and as at firft, (o all along they have been tender and relpedfull of them in Affembly, City and in all caies, iuffering them to grow up to thoufands; and notwith- standing breach of agreements, drawing away their people, preaching againft them in their own pulpits, many high and itrange carriages, yet ftill ufing all faitncfTe and love, hoping by brotherly kindnefl'e, forbearance and a thorow Reformation in the Church, (wherein they have been willing upon all occa- lions to gratifie and have refped to their confeiences ) at laft to have gained them. O the faithfulinefle, dutifullneffe, patience, long-lutfering, forbearance of the Presbyterians ; their dutifull- nefle and patience in wasting upon the Parliament ; their faith- fuiineffe in not abating in their zeal and refpeds to them ; O their love, kindenefle and tenderndle to the Independents, yea w other Sedaries alio who have had ibmething of Chnft and grace in them, and have not fallen into errours and blafphcmies rafing the foundation. But now on the other hand, the Seda- ries (though a con.emptible number, and not to be named ac the iame time with the Presbyterians} have not waited upon the Parliament and Affembly for the Reformation, but preach- ed againft it, and ftirred ap the people to embody them(elves, and to joy a in. Church, fcllowfrnp, gathering Churches, fet- ung up Independent Government, rebaptizing and dipping •many hundreds; and upon any thiug that hath been voted by the Aflembly, Parliament that hath croffed them ( though alas, tew Orders or Ordinances which have reference to the Sectaries, or many Ermtrs of the Sectaries. 59 or are againft their mindes* have little life in them, or are put into execution; witneiTe that Ordinance againft mens preaching who are not ordained Minifters, witneffe that Ordinance about Printing, cum mnltis aliis. Lay -men never preaching to much, nor io openly asfince the Ordinance, and all kinde of erroneous wicked books printed, difperfed as much as before ) they have put forth books againft the Parliament, Ail'embly, preached againft them and their proceedings, the Directory, Ordinance againft preaching of perions not Ordained, &c. talked their pleafure, that they would lay down Amies, that the King would give them a Toleration, that thefe proceedings would difcouragethe Army, and luch like; theyhavenot forborne printing of Aniwers to books, Petitions, partages in Letters, or other things which might make for their cauie, because the Parliament did not like them, or had forbid them, theres nothing that may make for the furthering of their way but they do it, Parliament, Af- fembly, City, Kingdom fay what they will to the contrary. And as their carriage hath been thus to the Parliament, to they have and do all kinde of wayes within their power, wrong 3nd abufe the godly Orthodox Minifters and people, vilifying^ fleighting and icorning them, raifingup all kinde of evil reports, and cafting reproaches on them, requiting them for all their love and kindeneffe, with preaching agamft them in their own Pul-- pits, ftealmg away their people from them, labouring by all means, in places where they have any power or intereft, to keep good Minifters out of iuch Churches, and Presbyterians out of all orfices and employments; yea in many places where they have power, they ftudy and watch to throw out by one wile or other godly Minifters who are againft their way, detaining their dues, vexing of them, and making their lives bitter unto them, domineering and abating the godly Orthodox party, yea ufing all policy and induftry to get themieives into all chief places of power and command, that fo they may trample up- on and crufti them. O had the Sectaries been in the place of the Presbyterians, and the Presbyterians in theirs, and they fo dealt with by the Presbyterians as the Presbyterians have been by them, I know what they muft have expe&ed from them : I dare appeal to every ordinary common underftanding, yea$ 6o A Catalogue and Difcovcry of " The Settariei though tkeyma{t fata fifth or fixth pert of the Jirmv% tnd the Moble Ge- ntra.ll it be com mandsy all free from any tou Jeffarifme, yet vc f&,r.nd ttamei tome the Gentle, man to whom fitch news was vvrwo.'dit m*> 3 Yr..t. put down allfwging of Pfalms* as at Etflyyin C*mbr. fh. Alberj in BartfirA-fti'tte, and will not i-irYer the Parifhes to en/oy any ling- me of PlalmSj and in other places they begin to put down ail Prayer in die publike Af&mblies* and to (ay there muft be only Dif- courfina and preaching ; and in places where they cannot prevaii to {hut*out fmging of Pfalms, they in a contemptuous manner ci3»> on their hats in the time of finging Pfalms, and having been pull'd off, put them on again ; yea, in prayer alfo many of them keep on hats* They fend forth into feverall Counties of this Kingdom from 9 pracita. their Churches in London, as Church ads, feverall Emiffaries members of their Churches, to preach and fpread their errcurs, to dip, to gather and fettle Churches ; they are not content with their own meetings on Lords day es, week dayes, keeping conftant Lectures in let places for all to come to that will, thereby poifoning many in the City,but they endeavour the leavening of all the Coun- ties, as I might give inftances of Lam, Kijfin, with many others fene abroad ,yea of fome fent into the North as far as Torlte. They have appointed and kept Deputations from Town to n Town in the Countrey,givingout the time, places and -qudtions they will ditpute of, as of Poedobaptilme, the Miniftery of the Church of EngUnd^c. and agree among themielves than fome of them Lhail leem to be for Poedobaptilme, and in the depu- tation 'tis maintained arhrft eagerly by fome of their own party againft others of them who oppoie it; but then after long and great difputation at laft they conf efle they are by the evidence of truth convinced,& before all the people give glory to ood that now they fe£ the truth; whereby the people leeing them who pleaded for Pa> dobaptifme confeiiing their errour and yeelding (they knowing 1 nothing 56 A Catalogue and Difcoverj of u nothing ©f this precontract and deceit ) they alfo ftumble,queftion and fall 5 yea and to fpread their errours the more in fome great Town where fome of the Sedarks being fouldiers have been quar- tered, they havedefired the ufeof feverall houiesof perfons well afFe&ed, that in the after-noon fome < hnftians might meet to confer together of fome points, not contenting themfelves to rcafon in the houle where quartered, or in any one houfe that might be larger to hold many, but to getanewhou'e everyday, the more to infefl and poffefle the people with their wayes and Tenets. All things that have fallen out and do in the Kingdoms, of Victories, Lof&s, Qrdinances,Pentions, A&ioos, Death of parti- cular perions, of all matter in church, ftate, Parliament, AfTem- bly,City, they make ufe of it one way or other to further their defigne, and twn« it for the furthering of their way, and againft the Prisbyteriall Government, as the buiineffe of Dnnnington Cauk, as the loflg of Lrice Hereupon that framing a petition to ad- journ the Ailembly, with other particulars which I cannot now mention. Some of the Sectaries plead miracles, revelations, viiions for their way, and toconfirme their doctrine, as foaie Anabaptifts at Tork^ for their rcbaptiz3tion, that being baptized in the winter in the xxsttOiife the water was as hot as if it had been inthemidft of lummer- es healing the fick with the anointing of oyl« as giving ou:, Chrift appeared to an Anabaptift, and forbad her to baptize her childe, of which the Reader may read more in the ie- cond Letter. They are wont upon the coming forth of books againft their way, which they fee take with wife men, and for which both their opinions and themfelves fuffer, to give out they Thill be anfwer'd, and are aniwering'of them, to keep the people in heart till they be forgotten and theip.eec.hof the book over, of which I could give many inftances ; and fo upon the new modtll ( when inftead of bringing that in to the Ailemb'y, they brought in pretended Rea- .fons why not) they (uffered much in the efteem of all unpreju- diced men, (peaking they durft bring in none becaufe of the weak- He(k of their way s- then feverall SecTaries gave it out in many pla- ces and to rr>any ( as I can prove it, and name perfons too) that the many Errwrs of the SeSfaries, 67 the modell was a printing,^ was certainly in the preile,and all the World (hould fee ic. They have done and practifed many ftrange things in reference *4. to baptifme of children, dreflingup a Cat like achilde for co be baptized, inviting many people both men and women as to ba- ptizing of achilde, and then when neighbours were come, having one to preach againft baptizing of children; they have baptized many weakly ancient women naked in rivers in winter, whereup- on lome havefickned and died j they have baptized young maids Citizens daughters, about one and two a clock in the morning, tempting them ouc of their fathers houles ac midnight to be bapti- zed,che parents being afleep and knowing nothing. They ufe to give great and glorious names, and fwelling Titles **• to their books they fet forth, as, Innoancy AndTrnth Triumphing together, as, Truth gloriov fly appearifrg&c, as alfo to their erro- neous Doctrines laid down in their books, cafting upon Truths of God odious nameSjas The forming ofAntichriftyDifcovery of the man of Jin, dec. their books being jaft like the Egyptian Temples, whofe outlides were beaucifull and glorious, having the infeription of a Deity upon them, but within nothing but a Crocodile, an Ape, a Onion, or lbme fuch vile mean creature. They are extremely full of partiality in ail their wayes, notal- »*» lowing that toothers (though far more confiderable for quality, dignity) which themfelvts ordinarily do, fpeaking againlt that in others which they daily practife, of which I will give a few inftances ; they have cried ouc in Pulpits, Pamphlets,diicouEfes,of the Citizens, Common-Councel, Mimfters, for petitioning to fettle Government, or humbly repreleming their dearest O'cis anin- terpofing, medling, anticipating, and I know not whit I vvhenas a few Sectaries, Lilburne and his fellows, can appoint meet* ings, and give notice to many to come to them ac fuch tinvs and places, and draw up Petitions, and that ftrange ones too-, med- ling with many things before the Houles, and in deb; de- termined, and againlt the known pnv.'iedges of the Houics, of ! which I might give many instances ; as after the lofft of Lei- ; ccfter, in the meetings of the Sectaries, this was one of the clan- ! fes of their Petitions, to name fuch and fuch members pf the Houfe :; of Commons to be a Committee for the raifwg of the Counties 1 a 58 d Catalogue and Di f cover j of and1 appoitning Commanders, but oppofed by fome godiy Or- thodox Citizens ( who (aw their drift, and obferved well whom they named ) as being againft the priviledges or Parliament, for them a few private perlons to nominate a Committee of the members of Parliament, as alfo that the Affembly might be ad- journed ; thus one of the Pamphlets tells us among his News, Moderate inteiUg. That mferiour Reprcfentatives ( which no man of underftand- uueib^. fnm* ing can interpret of any but theCommon-Councel of London ) *** %0 tbe 8* muft be wary of medling or inttrpofing by Petitions, or gathering together, but leave all to the Parliament ; but now the Sectaries four or five hundred of them, they may meet together, interpofe, reprefent, may (peak their pkafures of and arraign the Parliament, Committee of Examinations, Mr Speaker, and other members of the Houfe, as they did after Lilbums committing, and the Intelligencer will not difcipline them. Again, they may print, preach, fpeak againft Affembly, Miniftery, for Independences againft Presbytery, and what not ? and yet if any of them be queftioned, or book (topped at Preffe, 'tis perfecutioo, and they cannot be heard, nor have liberty to tpeak for their way ; where- as the fame men ufe all means and way es againft the Presbyterians preaching, printing, yea labour to hinder their putting forth of Anfwers, and calling in Anfwers made ; yea, endeavouring to trouble thofe who Licenfe books againft their wayes : as for in- stance, the Affembly being falfly and (candaloufly dealt with in a Pamphlet unit. A Copy of a Remo*flr*nce lately delivered in to the Aftemblj ; the Sectaries have ufed all their friends to bin* der the printing of the Affemblies Anfwer: fo many of the Se- ctaries at their meetings drew up a Petition to the Houfe of Com- mons, to have Mr Prynns andDr B a fiwick* books caii'din, and that Houfe to declare their fenfe againft them, and that no fuch books might be writ againft the godiy well affefted party, under the name of Anabaptifts, Brownifts, Independents, and a large ichedule was annexed to the Petition, of tffenfive pad ages that were in Mr Hrynns and D Baftwickj books ( I thinke ere long they will dare to petition, that no man lhall preach againft an Anabaptift, or name a Sectary, or fpeak a word for Presbytery, &ut themlelves may preach, print and lay what they lift :) And fa m she ..cafe of the letter of the City Miniftcrs to the Affembly againft many Errours of the Sectaries, 69 againft Toleration, and in other books; yea, and in Sermons that have been againft the fe and other eminent places, where the great ones,Earls,Lords5and the Grandees of the time re- fort ; the>: do not.as we Mtnifteis fit (till expecting a call to places, but they are forward men, beftirring trremtelves to attain this place and thacgetcing (uch great mens Letters in their behalf, ufing iuch Minifters of note, and other perions of quality and power in Parifhes to make way for them to come in,pretendmg to preach for nothing, &c. and (till in all rhtle Lectures and preachings, they have an eye to C hurches in places moit convenient for their ends, as fo fituated, fo cap3ciousj and to times when few or no Lectures die are, as on the Lords day in the morning between fixandfevena clock, all thofe Lectures at that time of the day from Stepney to Wefiminfter^hey either have poffcflion of,or have ftrongly labour- ed for them j yea,and to have fet up others on the Lords dayes in the morning, at Lvdgate, A IderJ 'gat ^,&c. if by themftlvcsorall the friends tney made,they could have effected it ; and to the Lords day in theevening,when ether Sermons are done, they have gotten thac Lecture at the Three Cranes*, and io the Lecture on Munday mgfitv when theres no Lecture elfe, befides the Hxpofition Licturts on week dayes in the fevt rail pares and quarters of the City, and new Lectures in other eminent places of tne City, which they have en- deavoured to (etup,if they could have obtained the Minifters cpfl- fencs ; and in their placts they have an eye tog»od pay, a Hundred pound a year for preaching once a week in one place, and Seven- ty pound fir annum, for preaching once a fortnight at another, and aPecce for a Sermon as loon as they have done, and a good fupper for another, and yet they will have a care to take no more pains then needs muii, asMi'i?. hiving a Hundred pound per an- num for preaching at Cripp legate on the Lords day in the after- noon, could never begot to give the Parilh a Sermon now and then on a Taft day, or a day of Thankcfgiving. as a great fnend of his in that Panfh",who knows, told me;befidrs,I could name or hers , who will do nothing on the Paft dayes. They take, upon them rhe. names of fuch Lectures and C bur ches, as being choien andoottii* nsued 72 A Catalogue and Difcovery of nated to them, but others of their own party fiipply them,(ome- times one, and fometimes another,they have one Sprigg or another, one Emiffary or other from the Army, one Houfe-bird or other to ferve the places sit would make a book by it felfe to relate all particulars in this kinde. One man of their way, befides being a member of the Aflembly and his a private Church, hath places in Norwich, Yarmouth, Fifhftreet~hiH in London. A fe- cond, befides the Aflembly, hath piaces,at A Ebon, four Ledures at Weftminfier, befides his intereft and ihare in fome Lectures in London* A third hath a place at Stepney, Criplegate, Cornhill^ befides part or another Ledure, and all referves for this Parlia- ment man and the other to ingratiate himfelfe with them. A fourth, befides the Affembiy which he feldome comes to, and his particular private Church, hath Ledures in London, which all the laftlummer he feldome preached at, not preaching at one of them in the fpace of three quarters of a year together. And they do not only negled their Ledures in our Churches, but they take to them* f elves more members in their own Churches then they can preach or look too, for they admit members who live conftantly many miles from them, here one ten miles off, there another five miles, another fixteen miles ori, fome ac Norwich, fome at Yarmouth, another fourty miles off; every one or their particular Churches is not a Pariili Church but a Bifhops Diocefle, nay fome of them are Archbifaopricks and Provinces, far larger thgi the Presby- terian Provinces, reaching from London to D over, asDf Holms, who hath feverall members there, going twice or thrice a year thither to vifit; and in one of his vifitacion Sermons, preaching to his members, prayed God to bieffe and remember them who had but a bit once in aquarceror half a year. And as this is thepra- dice of the Clergy, io the Laity among theSedaries have plura- lity of offices and places, fome have both military and civil, others two or three civil orfices, and I could name one, who hath fome five or fix, befides his being a Committee man : In a word, our Se- darks are become Pluralifts, Nonrefidcnts,and fome of them Ubi- quitaries,and are well paid for k,as Mr Peters. > They generally walke looiely and at large, over what they did before they turned Sedaries, and in companion of the godly Presbyterians ; they do many things under pretence of Chriftian liberty, many Errettrs of the Scffaries. 7 5 liberty, which profefiours heretofore were not wont to do, nor do cot, neither durft they have done, of which I could give many inftanccs 1>oth in perfonsand things ; I do not know, nor hear of a Sectary in England, that is To \\x\di and exadin his life, as he was before, and as thoufands of the Presbyterians are ; and this is not my oburvation alone, but a generali obfervation : many of them play at Cards and Tables, are very loofe on the Sabbath days, go to Bowls and other {ports on dayes of publike Thanke(giving,as Mr John goodwin and feverall of his Church,they wear ftrange long hair, go in fuch fine fafhionabieapparell beyond their places as 'tis a (hame ; they will feaft, ride journeys, do fervile bufinefTes on the Fail dayes, and give their Parifh Churches no Sermons, no Prayers at all on thole dayes; they make little confcience of fa- mily duties, they will (it and tipple, be jovjall and merry together. I could teii true and certain ftories of many Sectaries who were exceeding precife and ftrid: before they fell into thole waves, but are abominable loofe now; and let but a man turne Sectary now adayes, and within one halfe year he is io metamorphofed in appa- rell,hair,^r. as a man hardly knows him. In all matters and bufinefTes which fucceed not according to t$, their minde, but erode their way and deiignes, as it^ a choife of perfons th y like not be made to places, or it fuch a thing pafle and be done ihat pleafes them not, they will try all wayes pol- fiblc, and caft about to finde fome flaws or other5pretend this thing and the other to queftion the election and make it nulljottoobftrucl it j mey will put m Articles againft men choicn, though they can- not prove them ; they will pretend fomeching or other was omic- f:d,andfuch a pailage was illegahymd all to bring to a new election, and then they will worke all kmde of wayes to effect their deiignes-. jf hey nave fpoken ftrange and high ipeeches againft the feeling 24. or Piesbytenail Government and the Presbyterians, a*s one Anabaptiitoflate, That he hoped to fee Heaven and earth on fire before Presbytery fhouid be fetled ; another Sectary, That it was one of the Articles of his belief, that within (even yeers there would not fo much as the name Presbytery be heard in Eng- land; a third, That he hoped to fee the Presbytery as much trod under toot as the Ri'hops were j a fourth, That if the Saints were thus perfecuted, and cculd not have the liberty of their confcience, it would come to— A Gentleman told me,; he had heard many fouldiers of a Regiment otHorfe (which I forbear naming ) fay., ' m Thac 74 A Catalogue and Difcovery of That when the Army of Cavaliers was overcome, there would be another Army to overcome, intimating the Presbyterians; and I could relate ftrange fpeeches told me by faithfull ear witnefles,no Height perfons,. fpoken againft our brethren of Scotland by fome Se&aries, %y After they have fet their hands to papers, as upon agreements in (uch and fuch Points of difference; as upon the receipts of Mo- ney, as upon giving in what they defire j when they thinke fuch. things may make againft them fome of them have.ufed means to get thofe papers back again into their hands, and have come to thofe that kept them fome dayes after, pretending they defired to fee them and look upon them for fome Reafons, and then have de- fired to borrow them for a few dayes, to compare thefe papers with theirs, or for fome other ufe, and being lent them by Presbyterians ( who are plain honeft men and not acquainted with policies ) they keep them, and cannot be entreated toreturnc them again, but being asked for them, pretend fome excufe or o- theriof which I could give inftances, naming the perfons and things atlarge,but I fpare chem. ^ They pra&ife and endeavour to get Sectaries and thofe that way affected to attend on and be about cordiall Presbyterians dm are of quality, place and power, both to obferve and watch chem, and to qualifie them, and do fome good offices for the Secta- ries^ which I could give notable inftances, but I mud only hint it, and leave Presbyterians to their own obfervation. About the time of the moulding the new Army, fome of the Sectaries gave out where ever they came, and went from one to another both to Minifters , people, that fuch and fuch ( call them what you will ) are the men that will fight cordially for you, overcome the Cavaliers, and when they have done, they will either fubmit to the Government tftablifhed, or elfe leave the land, you need not fear them ; and this they labored to poflefle all men with, that fo without muttering or (peaking againft, there might the more Sectaries get places in the Army ; and yet we fee now by experience, that upon ail motions and Petitions for fet* ling the Govern reenter againft Toleration, the Army is fpoken of 9 And will you difcourage thole that fight fo bravely, and that God hath made foinftrumentall to you? and that if they may not have liberty of confeience, and liberty to preach, the Army will bedif- couragedjsmd if they may not preach they will not fight ; and after Yi&ories -ij> many Err ours of the Sectaries . 7 J Victories we have been minded by Letters from the Army of liber- ty of confidence, and expecting no compulsion in matters of the minde. They upbraid in printed books and fpeeches many Presbyterians, »'. particularly of the AfTembly, with their former conformity, yea they brand & afperfe them, that they have been great time-fervers, Innovators ; and this they do to make the people beleeve,that what they do now is not out of conscience, but to ferve the times, and that fuch men are not iikely to have the truth revealed to them, nor fit to have a handin the Reformation, who have fo polluted them- felves with corruptions in worship and the inventions ot men ; and among many,Good WCtlamj hath been abominably belied in this kinde,efpecially in that late railing Pamphlet of Mr Burtons, called Truth JtillTruth, though /but out of doors, whereas many of the great Sectaries themfelves,and principall ringleaders in each fect,as Anabaptifts,Antinomians,Independents,err. werenot only confer- rnifts in the way of old conformity, but great Innovators and for- ward Epifcopall men, the Innovations of Altars, bowing at the name of Jems, reading the book of Sports, caufmg the people to come and kneel at the Rail, threatning and bringing their tender ' confeienced people into the fpirituall Courts, yea into the High- Commiflion being practifed by fome of them : and I challenge the Sectaries to name io many of the Presbyterian party who appear for that Government by writing or other wayes,to be fo faulty for Innovations and ferving the Bifhops as I can nameamongft them, The full Relation of the timeferving and Innovations otDenn, Cox,EHis of Colchefttr£)1 Holms, Saltnrarfh^Cummins, Wal* of Norfolke3cum multu alijs, would make a new bookjand the bed of the Independents will be found upon fearch,yeathem of the AfJem- bly, not only for many years to have been conf ormiftsjbut to have gone further in conformity to the Bifhops then fome of us, As for example,Mr2?#r>-0#£/?j in the times of theRifriops prefling Innova- tions, was wont to ride up and down the Countrey in a Canonicall coatjand I aske him, hi. Bridge and y{>Greexhitl, whether they be- fides Subfcription took not the Oath of Canonicall obedience, and gave not lorne monies to the repair of Pauls Church in London ? wheras I,as great a conform ift(as lome of theSectaries would makt tne to have been ) nev§r had a Canonicall coat, never gave a peny to the building of Pauls, took not the Canonicall oath, declined Subfcription for many years before the Parliament ( though I pra- ftifed . y$ A Catalogue and Dijcovery $f ctifed the old conformity ) would not give ne obulum quidenu to , dltvv'ckcdovb the contributions againft the Scots, but diffwaded other Minifters 5 ' ex* 'officii « much leffe did I yeeld to bow to the Altar, and at the name, of Je- ^'eS >/? *u?> or -adminifter the Lords Supper at a Table turned Aitarwife,o? aftdnecef^ipU' bring the people up to Raiis,or read the book of fports a, or highly b^\aut%Z fleeter the Archbifhop in an Epiftle Dedicatory to him*, or put TfM, Bouora, Articles into the Highcom minion- Court againft any, but was my lH'h*\ ,t felf put into the HighcomrniiTion-Court, and Purfevants with Let- irfuiSttiu* tersmiiTive and^n Attachment fent out to apprehend me, for €'m™ifdh7faee(er Pleaching a Sermon at Mercers Chappel, on a Fall day in fnl}, thlf! Jm lecZfe 1640. againft the Bi(hops and their faction, fuch a free Sermon as mm sectaries to j beleeve never a Sectary fa England durft have preached in fuch a ing and vmxmg place and at men a time, /ww dting good, jQ conciude for this time the Practices of the Sectaries, 'tis ap- have *%i>en out t . . . , . n . *• fa/jiy Co mam, that parent they make the propagation and advancement or their way '-iwv* gnat a™ anc| party in oppotition to the Presby teriall Government their t7»}oa*th?Bi'at fupreme law, for the effecting or which they have and doufeall jhops and their means though diftaoneft and unlawfull ; they fay and unfay,amtme ZT^ennoUo. and deny, make promiles and break them, go backward and for- heed what i wr«e ward, and in one word have diipenfed with their moft facred Vwgbtilma^ principles of Church-fellowlhip, to as fuch things may make for to fay thm mmh for tfte jncreale and advancement of their party* of which I could give ■ ^ytttof a world of inftances. otyn. But it may be it will be laid, me not. Andhadi What are the practices of fome men, and matters of fact* to Z'c/liZfervLg, a way, 'tis arguments muft convince men, and not Practices ? jjhouidnstrvtite Anfvp. Much every way in this, becaulc both in printed books, fZ\?el?ba1ido\ Pulpits and diicourles the Practices of the 'Sectaries are brought bm would rathr t0 perfwide people to forfake our Churches and to come to them ; 'W*$%£k" as the great holintffe, ianctity, (elf dcniall, humility, innocency them, and fa i 0{ chat party, with their painfull preaching without great livings, wnltdaDatting ov expecting Tithes ; andon the other hand, the Presbyterians are •f4befe timet. * .branded as men or no great piety, holinelfe, charity, and if it were not for livings of two or three Hundred pounds a year, they would turne Independents, and many people are drawn motebythefe things then by all their Arguinents:Now therefore the diicovering to the people nakedly and truly their practices,rnay undeceive them, and be as good a means tobnng them t)3ck to the communion of the Reformed Churches, as ever the.falie representation of them •was to millcad them. Here follows,// Copj of fome Letters ^olth a Narration of Stories and Remarkable Parages concerning the St claries. many Errours of tie Sectaries. 4P Mr. Henry Benne3 in a Conference with me Novemb.20. delivered >• i. That Chrift did only fatufie for the fins committed again& the firft Covenant, quoting for it Heb.9. 1 5. and being asked, If there were no fins againft the fecond Covenant ? He anfwered, Onely unbelief. And being further asked, Who then fatisfied for this unbelief? Me anfwered, Every man did fatisfie for him- feif, becaufe he that believes not, the wrath of God abides upon him : fothat for a years unbelief, a man bears a years wrath, and for a moneths unbelief ,a moneths wrath; and profeffed/This was all the fatisfa&ion God did require. 2. Being then urged with the Heathen, That they mull then all be faved, becaufe their fins againft the firft Covenant were pardoned, and they had never finned againft the fecond, which was never revealed t# them. He anfwered, The Heathen had Chrift and the Gofpel preached to them in the creatures , the Sun,Moon and Stars,which he proved from that p 1 ace, Col. 1.2 5. h <7rJm tJj xww> and in them was revealed the knowledge of Chrift crucified, and pardon of fin by him, if they had eyes to fee it. Thefe were new to me, which I never before heard maintain- tained by any ; But with thefe he profefied all the Arminian Do- ctrines, That Chrift dyed for all, and for fttda in particular; and that he was confident, That he dyed for all, as well as for any one* and, A power in a man to refift grace; and, That the grace that would convert one man, would not convert another: with many other fuch damnable Do&rines,deftroying the foun- dation : I fear, while we contend about Discipline, the purity of our Doctrine will be corrupted; and that if our Difcipline were fetled to day , we fhould have greater contentions about Do- ftrine to morrow. Sir, The words in the Letter are thefe, Written by a^Mmfter in the Army* There are two new Opinions rifen about Bath and Bri* fioU among the Anabaptifts , and followed with much heat , as a glorious Difcovery of a new Light (for fo they call it) jo -^ Catalogue mi Difeowtry of mi ., ii niMinfim — i — i —————— ^ mmmimm ■— —— wmmm __— it hath been difputed pro and con, in fcverali Conventions, and inereafeth much, &c. i. Thac Chrifts humane nature is defiled with Originall fin* as well as ours. 2. That there is but one perfon in the Divine nature. He addes,The Lord pity poor England, and fubferibes, j From Wtthkomb) O&ob. 27. R. B. Sir, I am your Servant, W. S.' This Letter Vvai fent me from a Worthy ank godly Minifier, With this Super fcription, For Mr. Thomas Edtyarcis, Preacher of Gods Word, DEar Father, Since my coming into thefe Weftern parts,G©d hath done great things for the Publique round about us, in whichldefire to re Joyces Thofe I need not to acquaint you withalL The City (boner knows what is done within thirty miles of us,then we our feives.-Wheref ore I (hall: not meddle any further in things of that nature, then to let you know, That Sir Tho: Fairfax* is conceived ere this time to be beyond Tamten, Goring retreated, (frorrttoell marched from mnchefter, fome fay to Langford^ fome to the Army \ But the mercies which he hatfc vouchfafed more peculiarly to me, I cannot, dare not conceal : Which, feeing they are extended to me in the way of my Mini- ftery (and your hands concurred to feparate me to that workj 1 know you will be well pleafed to be acquainted with. Till God was pleafed to call me out of 3W (my Garrifon) upon an occafion you fhall anon be better informed of, I was in an ex- ceeding fuecefsfull way of winning fome home to Chrtit, win- ning ©ffothers from a miftaken Chrift, and a very fair way was ©ade, by Gods blefling, for the paflfige of Gofpel truths, which Before had bin much infected with Antinomian Errors,! found % people there,for the generality ,fo greedy of knowing,*s I fcarce ever faw till then; which defire (like a vehement thirft, which eatcheth at any thing that is raoift (though poy fon to quench it) made the fubttll fecfucers bold to convey, and themfelves facile to receive any venemous Tenents, under the pleating notions of -~ Chrift J mny Errwrs of the Seffaries. j % Chrift and new lights, (fuf the fmoking tayles of thofe London Fire-brands, which rer*rd the work.have fumed the Weft too, the devil chat kindles them;rs fo very bufy in his work of compaf- fing the Land,) and weak Chriftians/who had not indeed been tenderly enough dealt withali formerly) wanted very much a tender hand to ki them in joynt almoft in every point of Reli- gion : Upon ccrfukatton with my fellow-labourer Mr. rB. z precious tweet man, it was refolved we (houid win thefe filly fouls from Error,by thofe very wayes they had been wooed un- to it: which were Preaching Grace and Tuftificatton, (which only they called Preaching Chnft,) and affording them private conferences, (mean while avoiding all fharpnes in publique re- proofs, but yet undermining their Errors, by grounding them in the oppefice truth* J' in which fbmeqncftion or other in debate between us^propofed commonly fome riayes before) was (eve- ry one fpeaking to it in order (pro or can) as they conceived it) moderately difcuffed. Then one Minifter or other prefent,with our Approbation, clofed with prayer. Sir, the iffueof the firft and fecond meeting was very comfortable, and we did all of us (in appearance at kaftj punctually agree. In the fecond meet- ing efpeciaily, we had a very happy fueceffe, (except on fome few, whom when wecoufdnot itfeems fatisfie, (though they told us notfo there) God was pleafed to fpeak fofor us, by a fignall Providence,which I (hall acquaint you with) for they all (except thofe few) went homeblefnng God, for fo great a blef- fingasthey conceived themfelves poflfeiTed of in us. But thofe few (that I may not detain you long from that providence which to us appeared very notable, and I am confident will to you) it feerns being a little Anabaptized into an expectation of I know not what Revelations by one Pitfell (as I heard) a Chaplain to CoL- 7. (who a little before had charged St. Paul (he might as well have faid the Holy Ghoft) with weaknes and infirmity, in complaining of the body of death ; S© high-flown is the po- fition of the Saints not-confeffing fin, in his brain) not fatisfied with our dating the queftionxthen debated, ©f (vU. Whether San&ification were an evldenceof Iuftification^and how far ? ) Becaufe we did not allow enough to thofe bare Revelations, H2 ~ had 52 A Catalogue md Difcovery tf had prepared an Argument (as they conceived) beyond all ex- ception, to convince my Brother and me of the reality and ufe of them, and therefore invited us after the meeting, to a wo- man (their Oracle, a Supernumerary Sybell at lead) lately deli- vered of a childe, whofe extafies they much confid ed in. When we came, we found the woman (who it is probable had but lately received fome extraordinary comfort, but the Devil had had his Oar too in the Boat) dreamt into Anabapifme < but with fuch Ilevelations,in which (he told us Chrift did appear to her glorioully5& perfumed her/and (he would ask thofe about her, whether they fmelt not thofe perfumes,) and told her, her childe mud never be Baptized. We were loth to trouble her to confute her, then being weakly, but left her with a promife to return when (he had gained more ftrength. Mean while, on the next Sabbath, \ had occafion to handle the common place of Revelations, from Gods appearing to nAbram : In which Ex- pofition, I told them how eafily Satan might deceive under the h'ibkeof an Angel in them, with much more to that purpofe. After that mornings exercife, thefc perfons fufikiently baited my harm leffe expreflions, in private, as I heard; But God the next day made the truth of them pubfique' ; For the next news which I heard, was, that this woman before fpoken of, was grown perfectly d i ft rafted, which I my felf fince finde fully veri- fied; for I have talked with her,and now (he cryes out of feeing and fmelling the Devil in every thing almofh Itfeems his defiga being wrought, he thought fit to refume his proper likeneffc This the obftinate of that party laboured by intreaties and pre- tences to conceal, (they will not fee, but they (hall fee, God faith Jfa* 16 \ ) But I anure you, it is an abfofute truth, and will be attefted by many witnefles. However, this accident pulled divers of them out of thefnare. Since, we had another meet- ing where we debated the Queftion , Whether a man gifted, without an outward call, might Preach • and if fo, in what cafes? Where one Maddeck^ of this place appeared our only Adver- fary. When all his Arguments had been debated, (to determine it) we were fain to go Parliament-way to divide the home, up- m which (of Two hundred and fifty well nighjl I think Two hundred many Err ours of the Sectaries. 5 3 hundred voted on our fide the Negative, and the reft ( fome of them ( as daggering ) hovered becwecn both) divers of thern, about thirty womer, and three or four men only appeared for Mr. Maddock\ So that by that divifion, we faw how God had wroughtfor us fince a few weeks. For whereas before, above One hundred people were his Profylites ; we had abated them to the number be?orenamed,and had, lam confident, further effected the defign of unity, had not God vifued the place with a hd fcourge, that of the Pcftiknce, which, feeing my Regiment was providentially out of Town when it brake forth, I thought my felf called to avoid, by going forth to my peculiar charge at tVimborn, where I ordinarily have been thefe three weeks*. Sir, I take it for afpeciail mercy to that poor place, that both the Regiment were abfent , and I called forth to them at this time, for by that means I am in a capacity of begging and col- lecting fuppiies for them, and they of conveying them thither. Sir, I am now at Hamfton to that intent, and I Lhall God-wil- ling fee the Ifle ot Wight, and Pert(mouth too. To that purpofe I befeech you, (as you defire to help a people, among whom I am confident God hath as plentifull an Harveft to gather, as in any part of the Weft, and a Garrifon of infinite confequence,which is likely to befpeedily ruined by the multitude of poor people in ir, (Two thoufand at lead., (whofe livelyhood, knitting former- ly maintained them^ who muft now live on a common flock) and likely to ruine all the countrey,by thofe poor people break- ing out for provifion, which we have fo much infection round about us in the Weft, that we cannot get it in the counrrey fufficiently) that you will imploy yourutmoft endeavors both by your felf, Mr. B. Mr. C. and the reft of the Reverend Bre- thren to collect us a liberall fupply, which upon the firft notice that it is ready, I will put you into a way how to convey to me. I befeech you Sir (once more) labour to fave fuch a people, fuch a Ganifon from ruine, if you love them, or Sottthampton, Octob. Yours in the work i4.Thurfday. of Chrift, S. F, ThU Letter "toas Written to a Reverend Minifler in the city 0/Lon- don}one of the Members of the Jjfembly of Divines* Worthy 5 4 t^A Catalogue find Bifcovery of WOrthj Sir, Th$ confederation of thcfc many obliga- tions that lay upon -me, and that unwearied pains you take to cure (if poffibie) the malady of a diftracled Church; by dtfcovering and confuting the Errours of the Rent- makers and Separates that are crept in amongft us; made me upon fome ferious thoughts to draw up and fend you in thefe inluing lines, fome new prodigious Opinions and PracTifes of fome of late agitated and fomented. Not long (ince, 1 had fome conference with one Mr ,weby% man that pretends a New lighr,who faid to me (upon fome conference we had of the Divinity of Chrift) That he bleffed God he never trufted in a crucified Chrifr, nor did he believe him to be the Son of God, nor the Scriptures Di- vine, but Humane invention, and not fit for a Rule of life and converfation for any to walk by; and in confirmation of this he faid,The Scriptures were that golden-Calf and brazen-Serpent that kt at variance King and Parliament, and Kingdom againft Kingdom, and things would never be well, untill the golden- Calf and brazen-Serpent were beaten to pieces; To which end he had a Book to come out fliortly. I asked him yet further,of his Opinion concerning the RefurrecTion of the dead; which he affirmed, there was no more RefurrecTion of a Man then of a Beaft,nor had he any more Soul then the Body; yet he granted a Spirit in both wicked and godly, which he fayes goes again to him that gave it : No difference doth he acknowledge betwixt either, for locall torment more then is upon earth 5 he denies any local! Hell, orDevills, mere then men are Devils in them- feives : He yet further holds it unlawful!, for the ufe of man> to kill any of the creatures. And this is the fubftance of what he told me of his newGofpel-light;forthe matter of his converfa- tion towards men, I cannot tax him; for his judgement hereto- fore,he was a great Ring-leader of the feduced SecTof Anabap- tifte,and is now become (as many more in that way) an Atheift; many follow him in City and Country •, he is a rigid Indepen- dent, and hopes all of that judgement, though now diflenticg, yet will fuddenly be of his judgement, they wanting but one ftep (as he calls itj of his New truth. Hee loves not the Scotifl* man) Brrours pf the Sectaries. 5 5 ■' ' •— »^^— — — i ^*Mg| Scattifh Nuion , but terms them the Babylcnifh Bead, and the PresbyteriaH Government the Priefts Monopoly. Suddenly uponrny departure, I met with a friend a Gentleman of quility,who in a very fad condition did expreffe his feriihie- nefle of our growing mifery by this fcab or Error irxreafing daily; illiterate peifons prefuming to Preach, one of which drew away a rnaus five Daughters, and in a ftiorc time Re- bap- tized them all, making choyce of which he bed liked, and Mar- ried her without her Parents confenr. Another woman having a define to be Re-baptized, and having pulled tff all her cloachs to the naked skin, ready to go into the Water, but forbearing during the time the Dipper prayed, fhe covered her fecret parts with both her hands, the which the Dipper efpying, told the woman that it was anunfeemly fight to fee her hold het hands downward, it being an Ordinance of Iefus Chrift, her hands with her heart fhould be lifred upward towards heaven (as he (hew'd her how he did)but fhe refufing for modtfties fake could not be Re-baptized. Another of thefe feilows,who counts himfelf inferior ro none of the reft (of his feduced Brerhren) one whofe name is fyifcKijfinfomcume* Serrant to a Brewer (whofe name is tehn LilbHrn,\sho was lately put into Newgate,upon occafion of fcandalizingthe Speaker of theHonorable houfe of Commons in Parliament,) this mans man is now become a pretended Prea- cher^ to that end hath by his inticing words,fedr.ced &gather- cdaSchifmatical rabble ofdeluJedchildren,fervants and people^ without either Parents or Maiters con fen t ; (this trurh is not unknown by fome of a near relation to me, whofe giddy-headed Children and Servants are his poorflavifh Profylite*,) For a further manifeftation of him in a Pamphlet called, The Confejjion of Faith of the Seven Anabdptifticall Churches, there he is un- derwritten firft,as Metroplitan of that Fraternity. I could re- late, if time would permit, of fome what I have had to do with him,in which he appeared to me to be a Mountebank : I his man and fome others have had Difpures with Doctor Featly, Mr, Seaman^ and Mr. Boulton, Mr. Calamy, and Mr, Toner, and divers others, that have put them to faience, as not able to fpeak to the point they took in hand to maintain 5 yec they gave out to 56 A Catalogue and Di [cover j of to their Members they had the better, and like wife reporting Mr. C*/tfw;duiftnotDifpute with them; which report was moft falfc, like the reft oi their Do&rine. For it is well known my Lord Mayor gave Order , that Mr. Calamy (hould hold no Difputation with them, according to the time appointed, for fear oi tumults, which he might very well fear ; and great Prudence it was in him to prevent it, knowing what great pre- parations there was of molt Seels, efpecialiy Jw&aptifts, Kiffin himfelf being left out from the Difputation, and put to do the drudgery, to fetch up Members fcattered too and fro in the Coumreys neer the City, and others of them did the like good fervice fas Hobfcn the Taylor) in their places. One thing more (and is moft of all coniiderable) of Kiffins New found light, fo ca!!ed,which I had from fome eye and ear witneiTes of his Mem- bers, who were prefent at Kiffins , and Patience vifitation of one of their Members , whofe name is Palmer living in Smithfield, and laying hands upon her,did alfo Anoint her with Oyle; the woman recovering came into their Conventicle houfe, and there before many people faid, That Phyfitians left her as they found her, but Brother Kiffin and Patience Anoint- ing her, (he fuddenly recovered ; for which in that place, (he delired thanks might be put up ; which Kiffin did alfo relate, and did according to the womans defire (return thanks*J Many fuch heathenifti a/id Atheifticall pa{Tages,withbafeneiTe I could relate of this man, and fome of his Members, and fome others: but it would too much intrench upon modefty and your pati- ence. I will therefore contain my felf within that compaffe as neer as I can .- And bftly, relate unto you the opinion of one of cur duTenting Brethren, an Independant Minifter, whofe name if you defire,you {hall hereafter know ; it was fome eight dayes fince I met with him at a friends houfe, where he feemed to be very inquificive of me , to know the reafon the Presbyteriall Government is not fettled : My Anfwer did not fatisfie him,but he did yet further qua2re,By what warrant the Parliament could Eftablifli a Presbyteriall Government? I told him, from the lawfull call they had ; which call, fayes he, is from the people, and that people have power to call thera to an account for any illegall many Err ours of the Sectaries. J7 illegall a&, which he feemed to queftioa many of theirs, de- fin. -g it were new moulded ; many fuch Sophft.-call expre/II- en. he ufed, as if his intention had occn to bege: a oelief in me3 That the people have power co call che Parli ment to an ac- count; Butl BkfTe God, none of thefe brainfick conceits do draw me any whit away from my li edf- ft nelle and due obedi- ence, todo or differ, fVorbythit everto be Honored High Court of Parliament, whom God ha:h nor only in a miraculous manner preferved, buc alio by them hitherto preferred the whole K-ngdom ; fv.iy Pray rs therefore fhall be, That as God hath done fuch great and glorious things for and by them, that they would do fomething for God and his people in fetling Government wuhout which, many chat groan after Reforma- tion, will fuddenly dep.ir: the Kingdom, and thofe not Christi- an* of the lowtit. rank: Burio prevent this, I fhall defire your Prayers to Aim gfry God, that he would keep it forever hi the hearts of thole truly Noble, and Right Honorable ones, to re- member their Covenant they made with God in the day of di- ftrclTe. So at prefent and alwayes I leave you to the Pro- tection of the Almighty, befeeching him to grant you the glory of his grace in this life, and the grace of his glory in the life to come. I reft The 10. of Decemb. Yours to be com- 1645. minded, f. R. This Letter was Written to me by a Per [on Religious, unci cordially affetledto the parliament. D Early belovedinthe Lord U[m , My deareft refpects and ur.exp re (Table love remembred to you, longing to fee your face in the fll lb, that we might be comforted together in the difcovery of what the Lord hath made known to us of tha: great myftery, Godmanifeft in the flejb : In which is difcovered His everlafting love to the Sons oi men, which he hath been al- wayes difcovering in all Ages, fince the beginning of the World to this day, but darkly, vailedly, hiddenly as it were; forrus all thofe feverall wayes of Gods dealing with the Sons of men^ I have 5 8 A Catalogue and Discovery of have been ftill fo many pledges of his love,fo that God hath not bin difcovering divers things to the Sons of men, but one thing at feveraii time* in divers manners. Therefore I behold but one thing in all the Scriptures, under divers Adminifirations ; So I undeifhnd the two Covenants to be but two Ad minift rations oi one thing; and that which makes the Scriptures Law or Gof- pel, is our undcrftanding of them in either of thofe two conii- derations : So that Chnft lefus came to witnes and declare this love of God to us, not to procure it for us : For if God had ac any time any difpleafure to us, he had been changeable, feeing before the world began, he faw us lovely in his Son. Now I conceive Chrifts coming,was more like a Conqueror to deftroy the enmity in our nature, and for to convince us of the Love of God to us, by deftroying in our nature, that we thought flood between God and us, according to that of the Apoftle, Heb. 2„ Tor tu much as the Children "to ere partakers of fle/b and bloody he likfttife took^ part of the fame, To what end ? To deftroy him Vthohadthe potter of death : Who is that ? The Devil: Why fo .? To deliver them Who through fear of death Were all their lifetime fubjett to bondage : So that we being in bondage, hi? coming was to deliver us, not to procure the Love of God to us8 or fatisfie him,as fome fay : He was as I may fo fay, a moil glo- rious pubiifherof che Gofpel, as he himfelf faith, He ttas fent to Preach the Gofpel, to heal the broken heartedjo Preach deliver- ance to the Captive Sy to fet at liberty them that are brmfedy Luke 14. 1 8, i p. All chat which Chrifl here faith to be the end of his coming, is not a word mentioned of any thing done by him in way of fatisfying God. Again, hhn\%. 37. Iefus faith to Pi- late , To this end teas I born , and for this caufe came 1 into the Vo or Id ,nzms\v, to bear ttitnes to the truth* Oh me thinks how ig- norant to this day is the world of the end of Chrifts coming ! which mikes them fo dark in the understanding what Chnft is : people look upon him fo to be God, as not at all to be man; whereas I am of the minde, he was very man of the fame na- ture with us .• for o:herwife it would be no encouragement to us, to go to the Father upon the fame ground that Chrift is en- tree^ if he was of a more holier nature then us 5 bin in this ap- pears many Br tours of the Sectaries. 5 9 pears Gods Love to us, that he would takt one of us in the fame condition, to convince us of what he is to us, and hath made us to be in him: That now we are to ftand ftill and behold the glory of God come forth, and brought to light by the ap- peaingof our Lord Iefus Chrift, who hath abolifoed death, and brought life and immortality to light : therefore he faith, I will declare thy name to my brethren, O then let us behold Chnft Iefus in all that he is to be the reprefenrationof God to us, in which fame glory, God hath and ever will behold u ; which the more we behold,we fhail fee our fclvcs changed into the fame Image from glory to glory. Me thinks the beholding of Chrift to be holy in the fleth, is a di honour to God, in that we (h ould conceive holineffe out of God, which is to make another God. Again it would be a dishonour to Chrift, in that he would be but flefhly : And again, a difcomfort to the Saints, in that he fbjuld be of a more holier nature then they, as being no ground for them to come near with boldnes to God : Again , it is to make the body of Chrift a Monfler, the head of one nature, the body of another. Now to conceive all fulntffe or holtnes.in God, and that Chrift is and ever was, and the Saints in him,beheld holy,righteous,and unblameablc,as they are and ever were, beheld in the Spirit in union with God, having their being in him i and foits faid, The f ulntlTe of God dwelt in Chrift, and ye are compleat in him, one God and Fa- ther of all, who is above all, through all, and in you all. Thu Letter Was given we by a ^Reverend Minifter of the City, Who told me it Was a Letter fent out of the PVefi from ab$m Bath, by a great Seftary in thofe parts* Now to give the Reader fome Animadverfions upon this Let- ter,there being in it rank poyfon mingled with honey,damnable Herefies under the expreflion and pretences of making known Gods everlafting Love to the Sons of men : My counfell there* fore to the Reader is, that of Chrifts, Beware of falfe Trophets-, Mat# x Which come to ycu in fheeps c loathings but inWardly they are r a- vening Wolves. Now fetting afide the falutation and entrance in- to the Letter,which is lull of plaufible inftnuations, and is indeed I 2 the 60 A Catalogue and Difcovery of the fheeps cloathing ; the body of the Letter, and me main iub- {hnce of it is hereticall and very Erroneous ; for bcfides many expreffions that are unfound,dangerou<; and deceitfull,ihere are two main Errours vented; i. That Cnrifts coming in the flefb, was only to wicniiT' and declare the love of God to us. to be a, moll glorious publisher of the Gofpel, but not to fatisfie God for us,nor to rake away his difpleafure,or procure his love to us. 2. That Chrift in his humane nature was not holier then other men, and the beholding of Chrift holy in the fl fh was a d (ho- nour to God ; which Errour, though thus exprriTcd, I conceive to be all one with that Error (poken of in the fit ft Letter,held by fome about 2?rf^,name!y(he who wrote this Letrer living there) That Chnfts humane nature is defiled with Original fin as well as ours. But for an Antidote agaii ft thefe two damnable Here- fies,take thefe following Scrimures,Zc0w.3. 24, 25,26,^/^.0.1 2, 14,15. Rom.'). 9,10. 2 Cor. 5. 18, 19, 20,21. So £^.5. 2.1 y^.2.2. iloh.'$Ao.LHksL2').Heb.7.26 27. &<4» 5.1/Vf.!. 22. And becaufel finde in fome printed Books and ltverall Manuscripts, that the flrft of thefe two is often fpoken of,namely That Chnfts coming was to declare the love of God to us, but not to fathfie for us, nor to take away his difplcafure, or to procure his love and life for us ; I (hall therfore fay a little upon that point, to undeceive fome, who happily oat of ignorancr,and for want of being able to diftinguifh things are pulled. There is a twofold Love, Amor benevolently the love of Gods good will, the love of Election; and there is Amor complacent*, the love of Gods being well pleafed and delighting, which diftindion is founded in Scri- pture in many places, as Eph. 1. 4, 5 6,7. and Rom.n. 6,7,28. where we ftnde perfons beroved in Gods election/and yet Ene- mies to God, and come to be made accepted in and by Chrift, and in him to have redemption. Now tor the former love, tha: of Gods eternall election, Chrift is not the caufe, but this free love is the caufe of fending Chrift, as in 3 Ioh,i6.v. and Ephef 1.4. the Scripture faith, According m be hath cloojen m in him^ot for him; and fo Chrifts coming is the great declaration & mani- feftarion of Gods love of good will to us:but for this fecond love, namely of complacency delight and acceptance, Chrifts coming is mm) Brrours of tb^ Sectaries. 6 1 is the caufc and ground oi chat, taking away >be enmity, wrath.&: making us accepted, as Ephef.i.6. mads tu accented in the belo- ved* Ephefj.l, Chrift gave himfelf for us an offering.and a facri- £ce to Godjor a fvceet jmeliingjavour. So Col. 1.21,2 2. Again,we may diftinguifh and corrceive a difference between the Perfon, theStaceand Condition, and Actions done by a perfon in fuch a (lass and condition; now a perfon may be beloved as concern- ing Election,and yet the ftace and condition of that perfon hate- full, and he a ch>Jde of wrath, an enemy, as in many Scripture?, Viie'Ehyzn. Epbef.2.3. 'cisfaid of them who were the Elect of God, yet on Col. 1. 2I. they "toerc by nature the children of Vrratb as Vrell M other /, till Wo/fo Avttm quickned by converting grace; and fo Col. 1.21. TZom.f. 0.10. ^'f!fur/fm Enemie?,fo called both in an Active and Padive fignihearion, **/?&* J*^. that is, they hated God as an enemv,and were hatefull unto utiouevocduii God as his Enemies. Agiin,a perfon, and the ilate and condition id eji Vcum of that perfon in which he is, may be beloved, (namely that of 0J&urt utbo- Re generation) and yet the actions done by fuch a perfon in fuch r°»s Zfc»«g|6 a ft ate may be hatefull, as now the (ins of the regenerate God ^^ Did- hates, and is difpleafed with them, 2 Sam a 1 .27. "But the thing tur \}0m9 ru{, that David had dons difpleafed the Lord. So that in a word, Naturapcaati though according to Election a perfon may be belovedjet their bofi* ^^>quatc- ftate and condition wherein they are, may not be beloved-, and, ?w fciltcetl Joh. $. mies, hatefull, that is to God, as divers interpreters expound it; YhomtsaA - ** and ^w.i.30.haters of God;the word in the Greek is Stosuyfi** nas,in Tit.*?!?! which doth flgnirle fometimes Paflively hatefull to God, as well as Actively hated of God. Euripides in Troad. E mm Siosvyky Helena deo invifa}fo that the meaning is, Backbiters are truly hatefull to God. And whereas 'tis objected, Men thought God was angry with them, and enemies to them, they fuppofed fo; hence fuch Scripture phrafes : But the truth is, 'tis man who is an Enemy to God,and fo Chrift came to reconcile man to God, and not God to man, who was never angry. A»f. Many Scri- pture 6 1 A Catalogue and Difcoverj ef ptarc phrafes brought upon this occafion, arc not fpoken bc- caufe of mens appreheriions, they fuppofingthem fo; neither c*n they be undetftood of man to God, but of Gods difpleafure to man : That time the Apcftle fpeaks of the ekd Ephefians, therein they Vcere children of Wath as >fce(l as others, they knew it not, nor did not fuppofe fo, as being heathen, and in their pure naturals, and could not underftand fo much, Epbej.q.iS. and yet the Scripture terms them Children of wrath. Enemies, &c. as being really and truly fo; and Wrattyn Ephef. 2. & loh. 3.36. and in other Scriptures, cannot be underftoodof Mans wrath and difpleafure againft God, but of Gods wrath and dif- pleafure againfl: Man,infomuch as the Scripture calls it exprtfly The Wrath of God, and faved from Wrath ; which cannot be mans own wrath, but Gods wrath *. And that name given to Chrift, 1 77w.2.5. One Mediator between god and men, fully (hews it, not a Mediator only with men, to reconcile men to God, to bring men to be friends with God, but between God and men to bring God to be reconciled ; and indeed this is the chief, to fave men from Gods wrath, and to procure Gods love and favour to men; for what could mans enmity and wrath againfl: God do ? But Gods wrath and enmity againfl: man was that made him fo miferable. 2. And whereas 'as laid in this Let- ter, He was a moft glorious publi&er of the Gofpel, he was fent to preach the Gofpel, and Ghrift faith, / Veill declare thy name to my Brethren : So that in all that which Ghrift faith to be the end of his coming, not a word mentioned of any thing done in way of fatisfying God. Anf. Suppofe nothing to be faid in thofe places of Chrifts doing by way of fatifying ; (which yet I deny, and in both thofe Scriptures there's enough implied of that,as I might ftiew at large in thofe phrafes,Pr*v?^« ing the acceptable year of the Lord, deliverance to the captives, &e.) But granting it to be (oy yet many other Scriptures fully fet forth Chrifts dying for us 5 fome Scriptures fpeak moft of Chrifts Propheticall office, others of his Prieftly, and others of his Kingly : Nowthe Propheticall officeofChnft, of declaring and publifhing, was but one part of nis Mediatorfhip ; Chrift tyas a Prieftalfo to fatisfie and make atonement • he is called a furety9 many Errours ef the Sectaries. > 6$ furety, Heb. 7. .22. which agrees to him as a fatisfier and un- dertaker, not as a declarer or pablifher properly ; yea, the de- claration and publication of what Chrift does as a Prieft, and a King, as a Roy all Prieft for his Church, is the great fubjeft mat- ter of Chrifts Propheticall office ; and therefore the Scripture in fuch places whereitfpeaksof Chnftas a Prophet, and de- daring the will of God, doth not in the lead fort deny what he hath done as a Prieft. Chrift as a King and Prieft hath ef- fected and wrought out powerfully, that Reconciliation, Sal- vation , and Eternall life, the way, manner, and particulars whereof he reveals as a Prophet. -_, __________ ■ ■ ■ - ■ — -., 1 i— ■ -■ r $An Extratt of certain Letters Written to me and [owe other Minifters from fome Reverend and godly Miniflers, Within the ffueofthii 18. Moneths laftpafi. Worthy Sir, I received yours the laft week, I (liould then have writ you word, how we have the Papers for the Congregationall Elderfhip fent to us, but not regarded by the people, fo much as an ordinary Pamphlet; We are like to have it well fetled, that when there was a meeting of the Gountrey at Ch, to chufe the trying Elders , Mr. E. took this Tex'jTheychofe neW Godsend there Was War in their %ates i In fuch a manner as all the people conceived it of thefe new ciders. But if ro all this a Toleration be granted, this will be a mad Government indeed. Our Independents need have none granted, fince they have taken it beforehand. SI R, I think it fit to give you aa account of things : The laft Saturday the leVvijh Sabbath was kept again, with win- dows fhut : I am informed this day , that they have begun it m other parts of the Town ; fome of the Magiftrates do fide one way , others the other way ; they threaten rhe Major to his face, told him they would keep the JeWiJh Sabbath , and hoped before long to fee it here as at Amfterdam. But wc tie gone beyond Amfierdam^ and are in our high way to Manfler, 64 ^ Catalogue md Difcovery of Munfter. The people are impatient to fee things as they are, God grant they do nothing that is inconvenient, I heard Mr. This Mr. E. £# tjie iaft Sabbath day, who undertook to confute you ; I have d-wMViitcr. fcarcc patience to tell you how weakly, how contradictorily, even in tht judgement of the vulgar. He ftili compared us with the Moabites, Ammonites, Samaritans, fometimes denied Separation, forr.etimes juftified a Separation, by ours from Rome0by the Lutherans and Calvinijls ; and faid rhefe words or to this effect : That the Church of Scotland fepa rated from the Church of England under Epifcopacy, not receiving the Sa- craments, except ic be of late: And that the Scotch Commif- fioners when they came to Snglandjwi a Congregation of their own, although the Parifh-Church wis hard by. He told the people they had the judgement of the Church upon their way, the AdHf 00 Fmchjb) Scdttijh£c) Holland^ e®> EngUnfani they had their National the judgement of the Aflembly, that is they faw which way they Synod of the would go,and hid never declared againft their way of Indepen- Reformcd dency and gathering of Churches He faid, though others Churches of wcfe fQ j^ ^ tnofe 0f the AfTembly who had heard their blrtitcfau' Reafons, were moderate, and named Mr. M. Mr. H. Mr. C. +OM77, Decemb. and faid Mr. S. gave them an Honorable teftimony : I have the t.6. 1644. notes by me, and Mr. M. aMinifterof London heard him. Re- Branding the member me to Mr. L. Mr. T. acquaint our Friends of our hd Independent^ con(jjtjon : y[y heart is heavy, my body weak , my imployment thatway asT grear> ^e Magiftrates divided , my Brethren tender and deli- poyfon. cate, loth to ingage, mifchief growing on apace; what (hall I (b) And as do but beg your Counfefc and Prayers ? for the Scot- Tom FeBtPto- labourer in the t2™& m*9:}*y- ., .muft bear the name of Knave, and his Book is Devi- iifli as they fay. When a chief one amongft them heard of Lei- cester s taking, he wiftied that the Parliament might profper no better, fo long as they took fuch courfes as they then took a- gainft the Independents : His name that fpake thefe words, was Mr. M. a man imployed in perfecting the cuftogies by the State, but he fpends his time and ftndy fo much for the way of Congregationall Churches, that he doth not attend his place oftruftashe ought to do. But the main occafion of thefe things, is H.his frequent repairing hither, and private Preach- ing ; whofe Preaching hath not tended to Purity or Peace, that ever I heard of. Seftemb. I. 1 64 5. GOod Mr. Sdftards, I am Informed fincemy return home, hat our Sectaries are much ftirred with the Vote pafied in Parliament, againft Lay-mens medling with the office of Preaching, in fo much as they pray for the profperity cf the King, from whom they expect Toleration in their new Church- way. Some of them are fo bold openly to fay,that the Presby ten- all Preachers will prove themfelves crafty knaves. Certainly they have great incouragement from fome,elfe they durft not be fobold: We have caufe to mourn as much for Schifme, as for the Sword. The God of mercy look mercifully upon his poor Church. ^DecemkJ^. 1644, K Good 66 A Catalogue and Diftovery §f (a) Letters written out of England and Holland, con- cerning the differences in the Indepen- dent Church at Rotterdam in the cafe of Mr. mrd. C^Ood Mr, Edwards , Thofe (a) Letters which came to ray Jhands, 1 left at your houfe when I came out of London, re- ceiving them even as I was going out of Town. I am confi- dent you will have no publique ufe of them, for they will not dare to give a pun&uall Anfwer to your Antapology, Our In- dependents in the countrey are bold and pragmatical!; I do in this corner make what opposition I can , and am refolved fo to continue, what hard meafure foever I meet withal!. Our countrey Independents begin to brag of their ftrength in City, Countrey, and Parliament : I do hope without caufe. I have tryed Z. M. lately , and finde him cordiali in the way of Presbyteriall Government ; I am confident its Chrifts way, and therefore will finde ftrongoppefuion from the Iefuiticali policies and plots of fuch as from among our felves are rifen, fpeakingperverfe things to draw Difciples after them. But whatfoever Mr. fohn of Coiemanftreet fayes , they will be found the Fighters againfi God \ and therefore I hope will not joag profper. Tour loving 'Brother in OUob. 29. 1644. the Lords tyor^> REverendSir, Though my acquaintance with you fhould go before my expecting any favour from you ; yet fince I am well acquainted with your Antapology, in which I fee year confeience, and am confident that there will never be made any rationall Reply ; -I therefore prefume you will be pleafed to pity me who have differed much by H. of London. All that I would befeech from you, is, That I may underftand whether there be any courfe to be taken againft turbulent men, who arc violent againft the Presbytery ; if there be none, I fear that in a (hort time Religion will differ extremely ; if you know any, I befeech you to advife me therein ; we are fo rniferably vexed with unadvifed Independents, that unleffe we have fome helps againft them, or fome hopes to be eafed in time of them, our difcon-tents will make our lives bitter to us ; I know that your (hare many Errours of the Sectaries. 67 fliare of wrongs from them hath been more then ours, and I think more then any mass in England ; therefore I eetreat your advice. Seftemb. 1 8. 1 £44. vv Ortfoy Sir, For the bufineffe you writ of, I have fenc it you in this inciofed : We are glad that the Moun- much, my confeience clears me in all things, wonderfully good to us in this laft bufineffe, for if the other had brought into prevailed, we had been utterly undone. My refpe&s to all our the AHcmbly. Friendsjto Mr. L. and all our Brethren and Companions in the patience of thefe times. I reft Yenr moft hearty Friendyand Brother in Ie(m Chrift* REverendSir, I received your Letter : The hft Sabbath Mr. E. confuted you again, where I have thefe things he then delivered under the hands of many witneffe*. 1. He faid they held Appeals; witneffe Mr. wards cafe, which he wondred you forgot ; and faid there was not the like inftance of any Church in the world. 2. He faid that Popery would come in lander Presbytery, as well as Independency, without the Magi- strates 9 And faid, when Epifcopacy was at the higheft, Popery was at the loweft, becaufe they had the countenance of the Ci- vil Magistrate. 3. He denied the Magiftratc had declared a~ gainft their way -, and where there was no Law, there was no tranfgreffion ; and that no man was to be blamed for doing his duty. 4. He brought in the Covenant of Abraham Where there are fo many holy and moderate men as hath been faid} fomany of your oWn judgement alfo, be not the fitteft to judge Who have broken the peace. . . "River emd" man) 'Erroui s of the Sectaries. 69 REvsrexdSir, Since my lair, I went or Wednefday to hear Mr. E. to make good his challenge ; but when I came he Preached not; but one out of N eft- England , one Mr. F. a Granger in this Town came to confute you in point of Story. He left ro us to judge whether Presbytery was not an unjuft Domination 3 but for your faying they admirted not of Appeal, he utterfy denied it before the people, and told us many ftories of their Synods by way of counfel. He ckcd Mr. N. for a Ser- mon he Preachee, how near the Independents and Presbyteri- ans were come : He cited him again, that he fliould fay,and Mr. W. that the Aflembly had granted to every Congregation an en* tire power within it felf. They carry things before the people, as if they had no Adverfaries, but fome few ra(h men. But in the conclufion, he exhorted to peace,and faid they defire peace, they mud hive peace, and they will have peace ; yet Prophe- cying of a fecond Civil War, and that there was death in our pot. I defire you to communicate to thefe Divines, how we and they are abufed ; thefe things are>unfurierable. Dura mihi opus eftpatienti* in tanta rcrum diffolutione. Dear Sir, The Al- mighty God uphold our Spirits in theft broken time?. zAugufi 1. 1645. DEar Friend, I writ you in my laft of a new LecTurc, it is to be kept by Mr. F. an Apothecary Phyfician of New- Eng- land, who is not in Orders, nor ever Preached, as he confeffeth, but on Shipboard as he came over. Yefternight Mr. E. and Mr. F. defired to fpeak with me, and Mr. E. broke the bufinefle 5:0 me, how necefliry it was they (hould Preach controvcriies no inore, that they defired nothing but peace, and the glory of i3od in this. To which I Anfwered, That Mr. w. and himfelf md behaved themfelves moft politickly, craftily, with Fair pre- tences, untili they got poffefTion of our Churches, and then {slaved their pranks ; and told them how and in what they and I'll their party had deluded us with fair words. We will not be fooled 'V. yo ^ Catalogue and Difc&verj of fooled any longer ; I fee we are meerly bought and fold with Equivocations and Di simulations of this party : You know their Spirits ; God give me patience. Auguftiq. 1645, 1 the 24. of January, did labour in feafon, and out of fea- fon, revealing it to be a duty for Believers, and none but dhem ; in which time he did Dip Eleven perfons, being both men and women : But there were Warrants out for him both in Suffolk and Norfolk^, and he was at length apprehended, and Impri- foned by a Committee of Sujfolk^Cntmg at Berry 1 Now lying in Prifon there fomemoneths, and feeing he could not get out by all the Friends he could there make, (that Committee being refolved of their way) hetryedhis Friends and party above, and they wrought fofor him here, (I know not how they re- prefented things) that from a Committee, or the Chair-man of a Committee, fome Order or Letter, or fomething, was fent down for his releafe ; but the Committee refufed to re- leafe him, and writ up word they could not, nor might not upon that difchargs him, and Clarkson layby itftill; who when he faw his Friends above could do him no good, but he rnuft lye in Prifon, he then Petitioned the Committee of 7?erry,znd made a Recantation , a true copy of boeh which I here give the Reader. THe humble Petition of Laurence Clarkson humbly flieweth, That whereas your Petitioner hath been above fix Moneths in Bonds for Dipping : in Which time he hath taken great pains, both by Difpttte and fe arching the Scriptures, in Which he doth finde,and is convinced, That he ought not to Dip any more, nei- ther after the day of his convincement, being the I o. of July, Will your Petitioner either Dip, or teach for the fame . but oply Wa.it upon God for a farther manifefiation of his truth : So expetiing^ jour Wor flips AnfWer, fkall daily fray ■ Laurence ClarkfoM. m many Errours of the Sectaries. 73 His Speech at the Committee, at it is entred in the Committee* 'Boot, Iuly 15. 1645. THis day Laurence Clarkjony formerly committed for an Anabaptifti and for Dipping, doth now before this Com- mittee difciaim his Errors : And whereas formerly he faidhe du rft not leave his Dipping if he might gain all the Committees Eftates by it ; Now he faith, that he by the holy Scriptures is convinced that his faid opinions were Erroneou?, and that he wiU not, nor dare not praftife it again if he might gain all tJie Committees Eftates by doing it;And that he maketh his Recan- tation, not for fear or to gain his liberty, but meerly out of a fenfe of his Errours, wherein he will endeavour to Reform others ; And thereupon he is discharged of his imprifonment. Laurence C I arks on, m This Laurence Clarksonbting thus difcharged of his impri* fonment, turned from Anabaptift'and Dipper, to be a Seeker, and to deny the Scriptures to be the rule of a Chriftian, or that in Do&rine or Praftife half of Gods glory was revealed as yet ; and hath put out a Pamphlet about fix weeks ago , called The Pilgrimage of Saints, by Church cafl out, in Chrifl foundy feeking Truth : where he endeavours to free htmfelf from thofe reports divulged in the Anabaptifts Affembly, concerning his laying down the Ordinance of Dipping, and teaching for Bap- tizing of Infants : (hewing he layed it down for a Truth ,and not an Error*) only Erroneoujlj pratlifed: And in exchange thereof, Pilgrimage of have not, nor cannot praWife the Sprinkling or Dipping of Infants faints. of Vvhat Tarents foever. Now let but the Readier look upon his Recantation, and fee what is there expreffed ; how he doth difciaim his Errors, and that he is convinced by the holy Scri- pture, that his former opinions (which were namely of not Bap- tizing Infant$,but grown men, & for which only comttted) «cre Erroneous ', and that he made his Recantation meerly out of a fenfe of his Errors, therein he Will endeavour to Reform others ; and it will be found plainly he laid down Dipping for an Error, (not only Erroneoully pra&ifed) and did not acknowledge L ic L 74 ^ Catalogue and Difcoverj of it a truth, and whatever reservations he might have to himfelf in his Petition and Recantation of denying Dipping, becaufe there was no true Church, nor Miniftery to ufe it in; yet his words and the whole frame of his Recantation are ixprefled a- gainftit abfolutely ; and the beft that can be made of ir, is, that it was a Iefuiticali Equivocation, and deep Diflimulation. THere is one Thomai Web in and about London , a yong man between twenty and twenty one years of Age, mentioned in the third Letter, who about Septemb. 27. 1644. in a houfein Qaeen ftreet in Covent- Garden,exerciiir.g upon that Scripture, / am Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the £nd, the Firft and the L#ft, delivered many wicked and blafphemous opinions and fpeeches, the moll of which are put in among the reft of the Errors before named, and fo T will not trouble the Reader with them in this place. This wS was complained of to the Affcm- hly, the AfTembly fentup.thex^rticles totheHoufeofLords; he was by that Honorable Hou(e* committed, and ftood fo fome time : But upon a Recantation of all thofe Errors , both by word of mouth, and with his hand fubferibing to a form of Re- cantation drawn up, he was freed from irnprifonment : But fince the time of his releafe, he hath both in city and countrey vented many of his ftrange opinions,and hath preached in London pub- likely in a Church fome where near Black-friers; and laft Sum- mer was about in Sttffol^Ejfex^nd of late in Kent. In July laft he was at Colchejler ; and 'fuly 1 6.1 was informed that he lay atoneJ,/^n'0ft\rnoufe,and Exercifed the Lords day before in that houfe , Preaching feverall Antinomian Doctrines ; and faid, I fhouid here fpeak to you of other points, but that Wolves creep in among the Fold ; as alfo he preached there on a weekday, wherein he txprefled himfelf againft all Bap- tifme by Water ; as alfo, for him to fay he was equall to Chrift was no robbery, (as a great Sectary an Ear-witnefle related it ) who faid he liked it nor; but being fpoken to that he ought to complain of it ; he Anfwered, That to trouble any man for his conference, was to do worfe then he who fpake fo. This Web alfo fpeaking with a judicious godly Chriftian of Colchefter, faid, We might not ufe thefe expreflions,(7y to which was Replied, Do you fpeak this r s your judgement, or only for A gumems lake ? to which w b gave no Anlwer. This Web was alu; in Suffolk^, and chere Exerciied, and would have Preached in a publike Church, had not the Mmifter of the place hindred htm. He ha:h al(o been in Kem^tid among other places at the Town of Milton -> he came thither to teach School, but Preaching there fm the Miniftcr, in the fe^ond or third Sermon he ventedftrar.gLDo&rirjeSjfothatahundied and fifty of the Parifh would hear him no more , bur went to fome other Church. He was called before lb me of the Committee, or Deputy Lieutenants, who upon hearing the complaints would not fufferhim to ftay there, fo that he is come to London again* This Web before many wknefLs maintained. Thai it was m*re lawfull to (it drinking in an Ale-houfe, then to force men away out of the Ale houfe, to go to Church agajnft their conferences. In j"V/tf.laft>#v£carfietoa Minifter of the AfTrmbly, namely one of them before whom he had renounced his Errors,and thanked him for being a means to draw him orTthofe Errors, and bleiled God for his mercies to him, for hee was in the ready way to Atheifme, and many of his companions in thofe opinions were turned Atheifts; and yet this man after his Recantation, hath in Suffolk^ EJfex and Kent, carried himfelf fo as is now relared. And further, a Citizen told me, at the end of Nov. Iaft, this Web faid to him,That the Scriptures,the golden Calf was going down apace;that all In- dependents would fuddenly turn An .Daptifts ', and then afterwards woald come to his way. And he fpake of the Scriptures, That they were a hu- mane Tradition , and the Piiefts Monopoly > and they kept them up than they might live upon them 5 with other words to that effect. In September iaft I was told from fome honeit men who had been lately in Kent, that en the Monethiy Faft day in fuly laft, there were fome men and fome women to the number of nine, Dipped in a River near <*Afi?ford • one of this company was Dipped three time?, becaufe being afraid of the water, all the body was not under the water, but he was almoft drowned anc ftrangled bv the water. And the iaft Summer ari old man being dipped about Afiford,zs foon as he came above the waccr, fwore,GW//W you had almoft ftrang'ed mejof both thefe there were many Ear and Eye-witnefTes. L 2 There y6 A Catalogue and Difcovery of T Herds one Mr. Henry Denne a great Seclary, who lives at Elsly in Cambridgeshire j in the Bifhops times he was agreattime*fervcr,an High-Altar man, and pracTifed the In- novations ; but now of late years an Anabaptift : This man is a great Antinomian, a defperace Arminian,be(ides feverall other opinions that he holds. He was Re-baptifed by a Mechanick, and made a member of Lzwbs Church which meets in Bell- Alley in Coleman ftreet. He hath fpokeriof great gifts and abilities given him upon his Baptifme, and of great Re- velations he hath found fince, and all to draw others into his way. This Mr. Serine was fent forth by Lambs, Church into Bedfordshire , Cambridgeshire , and thofe parts, to Preach univerfal Grace, and to Re-baptife; and according to his CcmmifTion he did much mifchief in thofe parts, for which he was committed by the Committee of Cambridge; but by the means of one Mr. Dlsborongh a Sequeftracor, making Friends to a great man, the bufineiTe was put over to a Com- mittee of Parliament ; and being by them committed to Peter- houfe, after a while he was difmifTed, and went down to Elsly, where he Preacheth openly in the Parifh- Church, having the power of that Church, and the means belonging to it. This Qenne Preacheth much againft Tithes, whereby he draws the people after him : He hath put down all ringing of Pfalms in his Church. He Preaches and Prays, and after he hath done he calls to know if any be not fatisfiedj and then they ft and up that will,and obje&,and then he Anfvvers. Others of the Brethren that will, meerMechanicks, one, two, or more foznetimes, do Exercife after him. About the time the Ordinance came forth againft the Preaching of Lay- men, there was one Exercifed in the Church of Elsly, (he was fuppofed to be a Souldier of the Army) againft the Ordinance forbidding the Preaching of per- form not ordained ; (hewing how unlawfull it was ro reftrain men? and ought not to be obeyed. There is alfo on^Tandy or Dandy who comes Sometimes to Elsly and Preaches there, and about that countrey, who teils them of Revelations and Mira- cles, and faith Revelations are ordinary with him. This Mr. Vennt hath fome kinde of (trains in his Preaching, which affeel: and many Er rears of the Sectaries . 7 7 and cake the people much ; as for inftance, he will fay thus, O Lord Chrift, if thou were now upon earth, and didft reveal the Gofpel to men, they would call thee Anabaptift, Antinombn, Independent, who now call us fo. He would have Preached about Spiing laft,on a Le&ure day at St. Ives, but the Commit- tee gave order againft k ; and being not fufTered, he went to a Church-yard not far eff that place , and under an Ewe tree he Preached, many following him, and fhook off the drift of his feet againft St. Ives, pronouncing many fearfull woes againft them for not receiving the Gofpel. Mr. Bisboroptgh faith of him, he is the abkft man in England for Prayer , Expounding and Preaching. This Denns comes fometimes ro London, where in Lambs Church in Bell- Alley he Exercifes • he was there lately, and the ufuall Theam that he is upon, is Chrifts dying for all, for ludas as well as Teter : He often Preaches this Doctrine (as thofe who have heard him do report,) This is the everlaft- ing Gofpel, to believe that Iefus Chrift hath died for all men, Turks, Pagans 5 and that all the fins of men committed againft the Moral law,were actually forgiven and pafdoned when Iefus Chrift (bed his blood; and none of them that ever men had com- mitted, or ftiould, were impiKedto them, but men were only damned for not believing in Chrift, and for nothing elfe. One Mr, S. a Minifter in the city had conference with him of late, in November the 20. as is kt down in thefirft Letter, and to him he boafted he had been committed once or twice ro Prifon, as at Cambridge once, another time at London, and yet reieafed. This Denne delivered his Opinions (which you may finde in the firft Letter) in fuch a manner, as if he had been an Apoftle km Frfcffl Heaven. THere is one Mr. Srburj that lived in Wales, who in the he- ginning of the Parliament was an Independent, but by de- grees is fallen fo many grofle Errors, holding univedail Re- demption, &c. and now a Seeker and I know not what : This man was a Chaplain in the Earl of Effexs Army a great while, and did broach there many Antinomian DocTrines , and other dan* 7 8 A Catalogue and Difc every of dangerous Errors; bu: having left the Army a good while fince, he was about London, and did vent his opinions herej but about Spring laft, he hath betaken himfeif to the Ifleof Ely for his or- dinary refidence, from whence he takes his progrtffe into one county or another in private houfes, venting his opinions a- mongit weil-affefted people under the habit of hoiineffe.In/^ VA he was at Berry where he exercifed in private, fome forty perfons being prefenf,he declared himfeif for gencrall Redemp- tion, that no man was pumihed for Adorns fin, that Chrift died for all } that the guilt of Adams fmihotiid be imputed to no man : He faid alfo, that within a while God would raife up A- poftolicail men, who fnould be extraordinary to Preach the Gofpel, and after that (hall be the fall of Rome-. He fpake a- gainft gathering Churches, the Anabaptifts Re-baptizing , and laid men ought to wait for the coming of the Spirit, as theA- poftles did ; look as in the Wildernes they had honey and Manna, but not circumcifion & the Pafleover till they came into Canaan; So now we may have many fweet things, conference and Prayer, but not a Miniftery and Sacraments : And then, af- ter the fall of 2t0*w*,there (hall be new Heavens, and new earth; there (ball be new lerufalem^ and then the Church (hall be one, one ftreet in that city and no more. Not long after he had been at 'Berry y he went into Northampton(hire,& came to Northam- pton, where in a private meeting the main fcope of his Exercife was,to fpeak againft the certainty & fuffi Jency of theScriptures, alledging there was no certainty to build upon them , becaufe there were fo many feveral copies; he was alfo at Oundel}Nety- port'Pa£nel9tr\d appointed ihortiy to return again to Berry* T Here is Nichols who lives about Moor-Eields, that comes imo Stepney Pari(h fometimes to draw away people, and hath drawn fome away .• He did to Mr. GreenhHls face juftifie and maintain many wicked opinions ; as that God was the Author of allfin, that all lyes came outof the mouth of God, and quoted a place in the Book of Kings for it; That no man was fent to Hell for any fins, bur caft thither only becaufe God would have it fo, with other fuch opinions 5 upon which ccca- fion mdny Erroms of the Sectaries. 79 fion there was a meeting concluded of,?.nd Mr.greenhi//, & Mr, Burroughs ,with many others,were at it (tms meeting was a little before Mr. Burroughs fell upon rhe preaching of the power of the Magiftrate in matters of Religion, and the point of Tolera- tion) in which meeting Wlr.Greenhill declared how this Nichols (for fo his name was reported to me) came into their Parifh of Stepney, corrupting people, and venting his opinions, and in this meeting fome of them (aid this was nottobeenduredjand they faid amongft themfelves what a fad thing it would be to have our children and wives drawn away; and it was propoun- ded whether in fuch a cafe a man ought not to keep his wife and children from fuch a one; and it was anfwered, a man was a King in his owne family to rule and govern; and it was rea- foned thias by fome in the company, If one man may keep out fuch a one,whether fome families living neer together5.inay not joyne to keep away fuch a one, and fo whether a whole Town might not joyn to keep out fuch a onejand it was anfwer'd yes; and then it was replied, If a whole Town might, why not a whole Country,and fo a whole Kingdom, but upon thofe words there was a little paufing,and fufpending ? In this meeting Mr. Borroughes aiTerted in regard of thefe things matters being fo, there was a neceflity both of the government of the Church, and of the power of the Magiftrate,in reference to the liberty of mens consciences in points of fundamentall DocTrines, and that concerns the power of godiines,and the keeping the peace; and Mr. QreenhUl, and Mr. Burroughes either one or both of them concluded, it was a fad thing that a mans wife and chil- dren (hould be thus taken away by falfe Teachers, and there fhould be no meanes left againft fuch a one but Prayers. At another time an Anabaptifl and a great SecTary came to Mr. Greenhillyznd faid he might as lawfully bapcife a dog as a beleevers childe. Katherine Chidley about Auguft hit came to Stepney, ( where fhee hath drawn away fome perfons to Brownifme) and was with Mr. GreenhiR, where fhee with a great deal of violence and bitternefle fpake fcgainft all Mini- fters and people that meet in our Churches5and in places where any idolatrous fervices have been performed *. Mr. Gretnhitl anfwer 8 o A Catalogue and Di [cowry of anfwered her by Scripture? and laboured to reduce to a (hort head all (he had fpoke, asking her if this were not the fum, namely, that it was unlawfull to worfaip God in a place which had been ufed or fet apart to Idolatry, under the Names of Saints and Angels ; (lie woulJ not hold to the dating of the qucftion, but running out, Mr. Greenhillto convince her, told her that all England in this way and manner had been fee apart to St. George, and Scotland to Saint Andrety&nd fo other King- domes to other Saints ; fo that by her grounds it was unlawful! to worfliip God in thefe , and fo by confequence any where in the world ; but in (lead of being fatisfied or giving any anfwer, (hee was fo talkative and clamorous, wearying him with her words, that he was glad to goe away, and fo left her. THere is one Marfball a Bricklayer, a yong man living at Hackney^ great follower of Mr.3fo»^)who infects many with his errors ; This man in the prefence of fome godly under- ftanding Citizens maintained, That Paul when he complained in the 7 c. of the Ttym. of the body of death &c. was a Novice,and underilood not Chrift in the promife ; and that he for his pare underftood the my fiery of God in Ghrift better then St. Paul; andhefaid of the Scripture?, they were as other writings of men, every one had writ as they conceived • and at the fame time one ofMarfials company (pake thus to the Citizens, The Scripture is your golden calfe, and you dance about it; this Marshall further maintained there was no Hell, but all men fhould be faved, wicked as well as good, and all other crea- tures who (hall returne unto God ;again,all the hell that is, is in this life,which is nothing elfe but the legall terrors and fears men had in their confeienees- that the Scriptures are full of con- tradiclions,and all fin is more from God then from men,becaufe in him they live, move and have their being; that it is unlawfull to kill any creature that hath life, becaufe it came from God; and though this man had gone forth for a Souldier, yet he held it unlawfull to fight with, or kill any man. On the Faft-day February 27. 1644. three men, two where- of many Br r ours of the Sectaries. 8 i of were houfe-keeper*, and theorher a yong man, an Appren- tice, dwelling all in Wooi- chinch Parifti or thereabouts, in the Afternoon out of curioiity and Novelty, went to one of the pri- vate Churches in Bell-Alley, where when they were come, the houfe was very full ; and attending to him that fpake to the company, they heard him fay, and one or two more took his part, That Chrift was no more God then he or any of them there, and that they were as much God as Chrift was • and though Chrift was a Prophet and did Miracles, yet he was not God. One of thefe :hree Mr. Af. trembled at the hearing of it, and called to the other two to come away for fear the houfe (hould fall upon them, and fo left them : The fum of this was given into a Committee of Parliament, under the hands of thefe three perfons, being Ear-witnefle?. And upon occafion of this Difcourfe, I relating it to fome Divines of the Affembly, they told me that Mr. Nje had fpoken it in their hearing , that to his knowledge the denying of the Divinity of Chrift was a growing opinion; and that there was a company of them met about Coleman-ftreet, a Welchman being their chief who held this opinion. And in June iaft a Cirizen of London, both godly and of good underlhnding told me , that about a moneth be- fore on a Lords day in the Afternoon, he was at a private meer- ing, where for the fpace of two hours, two yong men (one of them not above ^o years of Age) defended ftoudy, and brought many Scriptures to prove that Iefus Chrift was not God EfTen- tially, but God Nominally ; and that Chrift was a creature be- fore he took fletli. THere is one Clement Wrighter in London, but anciently be- longing to JVorcefler , fometimes a Profeflbr of Religion, and judged to have been godly, who is now an arch-Heretique and fearfull Apoftate, an old Wolf, and a fubtile man, who goes about corrupting and venting his Errors $ he is often in tVejl- minfter-YliW , and on the Exchange ; he comes into publique meetings of the Sectaries upon occaiions of meeting to draw up Petitions for the Parliament^ other bufineffes. This man a- M bout 8 2 i^A Catalogue and Difcovery of bout 7 or 8 years ago/cii off from the communion of our Church- es, to Independency and Brownifme, and was much taken with Mr. RobinfonsBook$,*s that of the Iuftification of Separation • from that he fell to Anabaptifme and Arminianifme,and to Mor- talifme, holding the Soul Mortall j (he is judged to be the Au- thor, or at lead to have had a great hand in the Book of the Mortality of the Soul). Afcer that he fell to be a Seeker, and is now an Ami Scripturift, a Qucftiomft and Sceptick , and I fear an Acheift. This Wrighter is one of the chief heads of thofe that deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God j and thatqueftions all points of Chriftian Religion ; He hath vented hirafelf to fome in city and ccuntrey,as to Mr.CW*,Mr. Tanking, Mr. P. a Minifter,alfo to an honeft man of Wine hefter, who lived in London becaufe of the Cavaliers ;He fp reads Papers and Que- ftions about the City, giving them to fuch whom he thinks he may corrupt, and that will be faithful! to him. A true copy of feverall of his Queftions , are by a providence come to my hands, and I can prove it to be his, and name the perfons if any good might come of it, to fuppreffc and punilh this grand Im- poftor and Seducer. This Clement Wrighter about Spring laft did affirm to Mr. Farthing, (from whom I have it in wri- ting, written by his own hand) That man hath no immortal! Soul, but when he dieth,all of man fleepeth till the Refurreclion; and that the Scriptures are not the Word of God', neither in the Tranllation, not yet in the Original tongues , fo as to be an infallible foundation of Faith; that the Scriptures are wri- tings only probably to be believed as the Story of Henry the Eigh h : He further faid, That there is no Gofpel, no Miniftery, nor no Faith, nor can be, unlefle any can (hew as immediate a call to the Miniftery as the Apoftles had, and can do the fame Miracles they did ; He alio maintained, That no man was dam- ned but for rejecting the Gofpel : and that none could reject the Gofpel, but thofe that had it tendred to them as they had in the Apoftles dayes, being confirmed by Miracles. On April the 0.1645. being that day commonly called Eafter Wednes- day, Mr. Cole Book-Seller in fyrntiUfa his own Shop (\ going to him to help me to an unlicenfed Book) amongft other Dif- courfe man) trrours ef the Sectaries. 83 courfe told me. That divers perfons whom about 4 years ago he thought as godly as any, were now fallen to deny all things in matters of Religion , and held nothing , but laboured to Plunder men of their Faith; and that many of thefe were ricious in their lives, as well as Hereticall in their judgements j and fome of them would come into his Shop, and had fpoken fearfull blafphemies not fit to be named ; as that the Virgin Mary was — (I forbear to mention what followed.) And as he was thus fpeaking to me, there was coming on the o- therfideof the way, andcrofTIng over towards the Exchange Clement Wrighter, and I fpake to Mr. Cole of him ; where- upon Mr. Cole faid, I, there's one that makes ic hi? bufinefTe to Plunder men of their Faith ; and if he can d<.> hat upon any, it fattens him, that's meat to him. About tw moneths ago in in November, rame to my hands a Paper of Questions given abroad by Clement Wrighter^ about the Miniltery, Church, and two feverali Baptifmes appertaining to the true Miniftery of the Gofpel ; very dangerous and fubtile Qoeftions which I forbear to Print, till I can have time or fome other to put them forth with an Anfwer. On the flrft of December this laft moneth, was a meeting in Diftaffe- hne,of fome of feverai Se&s, Seekers, Antinomians, Anabaptifts, &c. to confult about Liber- ty of Confcience ; how all thefe might have the Liberty of Pra&ifing their own way, and that with the peace of the King- dom : At which meeting were alfo fome Presbyterians 5 where upon occafion of debating things in reference to pretended Li- berty of Confcience ; one of the Presbyterians moved this Queftion, whether they met here m Chriftians^ or as men only : To which Queftion one of the Sectaries (whofe name is Mr. W.) defired to know why fuch a Queftion was asked, or fuch a doubt made, that they fhould not meet as Chriftian men ; unto whom the Presbyterian Replied,becaufe he had heard that fome of that company denied the Scriptures to be the Word of God; and being bid to name them if he knew any fuch , he named Mr. Wrighter> faying, it hath been fo related to me from others, and I defirc to be fatisfied from himfelf , Whether he do deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God • and put the Queftion M 2 to 84 A Catalogue and Difcovery of to Wrighter faying, I defire to know whether you doe hold the Scriptures to be the word of Godjbut Wrighter would give no Anfwer, neither I nor no $ but in ftead of any fatisfaftion given,one of that company,and a great friend of Wrighter s -y one Mr. VVallin fell upon the Presbyterian, asking him how hs would prove the Scriptures to be the Word cf God ;and faid, I wiil argue it with you, and maintain it that you fhall not prove the Scriptures to be the Word of God; and after thefe two had done reafoning (brighter being all this while filent) the Presbyterian faid to yVrigbtcr, I am now confirmed in it that you deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God, becaufe being charged with it, and fo publiquely, you doe not de- ny it. Among ail the confufion and diforder inChurch- matters both of opinions and praftife?, and particulars of all forts ; of Me- chanicks taking upon them to preach and baptize, as Smiths, Taylors, Shoemakers, Pedlars, Weavers, &c. there are alfo fome women- preachers in our times, who keepe conftant Le&ures, preaching weekly to many men and women. In Lin- celnfbire3\n Hollandsind thofe parts, there is a woman-prea- cher who preaches, ( its certain)and Vis reported alfo Ihe bap- tizeth,buc thats not fo certain. In the Ifle of Ely,(tlut Ifiand of Errors and Sectaries, )is a woman-preacher alfo : In Hartford- (hire alfo there are fome woman- preachers who take upon them at meetings to expound ?he Scriptures in Houfes,and preach upr on Texts, as on Rem. 8.2, But in London there are women who for feme time together, have preached weekly on every Tuefr day about four of the clock .untowhofe preachings, many have reforted. I fhall particularly give the Header an account of the preaching of two womcn,( one a Lace- woman, that fells Lace in Cheap(ideJ& dwelsin Bel- Alley in Colemanflreet% and the other a Majors wife living in the Old Baity,) who about aMoneth ago, the fecond Tuefday in 'December ( as I take it) did preach in Bell Alley in Colemanfireet^hc manner whereof is asfollowes ; (as I had it from a godly Minifter of this City, who was there prdbnt an eye and ear-witneffe of it.)Three women came forth out of an inward roome or chamber, into the roome where they many Err ours of the Sectaries. 8 5 they ufed to exercife, and where fome company waited for to heare them; Thefe women came with Bibles in their hands, and went to a Table ; the Lace-woman tooke her place at the upper end ; the Gentlewoman the Majors wife fate on one fide by her j the third woman ftcod on the other fide of the Table; the Lace- woman at the upper end of the Table, turned her felf firft to this Gentlewoman,(who was in her hoods, necke- lace of Pearle, watch by her fide,and other apparrell fucable ) and intreated her to begin,extolling her for her gifts and great abilities; this Gentlewoman refufed to begin, pleading her weakneffe; and extolling this Lace woman who fpake to her; then the Lace- woman replied again to the Gentlewoman,this was nothing but her humility and modcfty,for her gifts were well knowne^ but the Gentlewoman refufed it again, falling into a commendation of the gifts of the Lace- woman ; where- upon this Lace-woman turned her felfe to the company, and fpake to fome of them to exercife, excelling her klft that (he was fomewhat indifpofed in body, and unfit for this worke, and faid if any one there had a word of exhorta-ion let them fpeake; but all the company keeping filent, nonefpeaking : Then the Lace- woman began with making a fpeech to this pur- pofe, That now thofedayes were come, and that was fulfilled which was fpeken of in the Scriptures, That God would poure out of his Spirit upon the handmaidens, and they (hould prophe- cy, and after this fpeech fhee made a prayer for almoft halfe an hour, and after her Prayer took that Text, If ye love mcyksep my Cwmanietncntsi when fhe»had read the Text, fhee laboured to Analyze the Chapter as well as (he could, and then fpake upon the Text drawing her DocTrines, opening them, and making two ufes, for the fpace of fome three quarters of an houre ; when (he had done (he fpake to the company ,and faid if any had any thing to object againft any of the matter delivered, they might fpeake, for that was their cuftome to give liberty in that kindef but though there was a great company both of men and womenjyet no man ohjected;but all held their peace : Then the Gentlewoman that fate at the fide of the Table, be- gan to fpeake, making fome Apologie that flic was- -not fo fie at 86 A Catalogue and Difcovery of at this time in regard of fome bodily indifpofitions,and (he told the company (hee would fpeake upon that matter her Sifter had handled, and would proceed to a Vfe of Examination , whether we love Chrifi or no; and in the handling of it, (hee propounded to open what love was,and what were the grounds of our love, and how we fhould know it; and as Ihe was prea- ching, Cxie in the company cryed, Speaks out, whereupon (he lifted up her voice ; but iome fpake the fecond timeySpeake out, fo that upon this the Gentlewoman was difturbed and con- founded in her difcourfe, and went off from that of love to to fpeake upon I \ohn 4. of trying the fpirits, but (hee could make nothing of it, fpeaking non-fenfe all along; whereupon fome of the company fpake againe, and the Gentlewoman went on fpeaking, jumbling together fome things againft thofe who defpifed the ordinances of God, and the Miniftery of the Word; and upon that fome prefent fpake yet once more* fo that (hee was fo amazed and confounded,that (he knew not what (he faid, and was forced to give over and fit down • The Lace-woman who preached firft, feeing all this, lookt upon thofe who had interrupted her Sifter with an angry bold countenance,fetting her face againft them,and (he fell upon con- cluding all with prayer, and in her prayer (he prayed to God about them who defpifed his Ambafladors andMinifters that he had fent into the world to reconcile the world; whereupon fome fell a fpeaking in her prayer ; Ambafladors, Minifters,you Ambaffadorslwith words to that purpofejand upon thofe words (hee prayed exprefly that God would fend fome vifible judge- ment from heaven upon them; and upon thofe words fome of the company fpake aloud, praying God to ftop her mouth, and fo flaee was forced to give over : In briefe, there was fuch laughing, confufion, and diforder at the meeting, that the Mi- nifter profeffed he never faw the like 5 he told me the cou- fufion, horror, and diforder which he faw and heard there, was unexprefiible , and fo he left them, fearing left the candles might have gone out and they have fallen to kill or mifchiefe one another. The next Tuefday after there came a world of people , to the number of a Thoufand firft many Errours of the Sectaries. 87 firft and laft to Bell- Alley, to hear thefe women Preach (as an Inhabitant of that Alley related it to me) but thefe women becaufe of the multitude did not preach there,but preached in the Old-Baily the fame day;and fince have Preached in a houfe near the French Church ; where on Tuefday being the 30 of De- cember, another Minifter heard them, and related that he faw a great deal of lightneffe and vanity among fome that were at that Exercife. And on Thurfday the 8 of fynu&ry near the French- Church at one Mrs. Hills, one Mrs. Atomy (one of the women by all the defcription of her fpoken of before thac Preached in Bell- Alley) at three of the clock in the Afternoon Preached, where about fifty perfons men and women were pre- fent. In her Exercife fhe delivered many dangerous andfalfe Doctrines: as 1. That it could notftand with the goodnefle of God to damne his own creatures Eternally. 2. That God the Father did raign under the Law; God the Son under the Gofpel; and now God the Father and God the Son are making over the Kingdom to God the Holy Ghoft, andhefhailbe powred out upon all flefh. 3. That there (hall be a generali Reftauration, wherein all men fhall be reconciled and faved. 4. That Chrift died for all ; with feverall other Errors and conceits. She told them that for her part fhe was in the Wil- derneSjWattingfor the powringout of the Spirir. When her Ser- mon was done, (which was above an hour) fhe faid,If any one had any exception againft what fhe had delivered3 (lie was ready to give forth her light ; and if they could demonftrate the had Preached any Error, :o hear them; fhefaid fhe was defirous that all the glory fhould be given to God, and was wil- ling to impart or give out that dram of light the Spirit hzd given her; thatfliedefiredtolay down her Crown at the feet of Chrift ; and wiftied that (hame and confufion might cover her face for ever if fhe had any confidence mherfelf. After fhe had done fpeaking, a Sifter ftood up firft snd objected what warrant (he had to Preach in this manner ; the Preaching wo- man interrupted her, and faid (he knew what the meant, that (he ought only to Preach tothofethat were under Baptifme ; and further, (he faid (he difclaimed that (he took upon her to Preach gg A Catalogue and Difcwery ef Preach, but only to Exercife her gifts ; for flbe could not be evinced that any in the world this day living, had any Gommif- fion to Preach. Then her Sifter asked her what warrant {he had to Exercife thus ; {he Anfwered her grounds were i Feu 4. io,i i. As every man hath received the gift, &c. and that in the 10. ©f the Hebrews, Exhort one another, and in the 3. of Malacbi the id. and in Titus , That the elder Women ought to teach the jmger : Further (he profeffed, That when fhe and her Sifter began that Exercife, it was to fome of their own Sex$ but when (he confidered the glory of God was manifefted in Babes and Sucklings,md that (he was defired by fome to admit of all that pleafed to come, (he could net deny to impart thofe things the Spirit had communicated to her.but ftill her Sifter in- fitted upon her former objeftion,& faid (he ought not to preach to the world ; and faid fhe would fpeak morefreely , but that there was a multitude there. Then another Sifter (pake to this fecond Sifter, that truth fought no corners, why fhould (he fay fo? Then a man ftood up and asked the Preaching-woman what (he meant by thofe who were under Baptifme : (he An- fwered, under a Gofpel- order : He Replied, what was that? {he faid, all that were Baptifed being not Believer?. Then a fe- cond was objected, Who Baptifed Simon Magus, ^Ananias and Saphira > Mrs. Atomy Anfwered , ftie doubted whether they did according to their Commifiion in Baptifing them. In her Prayer this the-Preacher prayed God that all thofe who were prefent, and did not acknowledge his weak ones that fpake for the Spirit of God, that he would difcover the iniqui- ty of their hearts. She alfo in her Prayer gave thanks for the occafion of their meeting, that they had been quiet without diftradion, which they were not the former day : and to the men prefent that brought an Argument for Infants Baptifme,(he gave an Anfwer to it. He asked her what Baptifme was ? She Anfwered, (he was not very fit to Argue thofe Queftions , and went from the Table to the fire fide .- and then another Sifter faid, You have heard what was delivered, and may reft fatisfi- ed. I was informed alfo for certain this week by a Minifter who came out of Kent, that at Brafteed where Mr. Sahmarft? is many Brrours of the Seffaries. 8p is Preacher, there is a woman-Preacher, (one at leaft if not more) in which company befides Preaching, 'tis reported (as this Minifter faith, very commonly) that they break Bread alfo, and every one in their order. IN September laft, Die 25. being at a Merchants houfe in Lon- don, there came in one Mr. 7". who related that in his Family there were but four perfons, himfelf,his wife, a man,and a maid* A Qtteea Servant, and faith he, we are of feverall Churches and wayes ; wellaftcfterf. I am of the Church oi £ngland> my wife was of one Mr. lacies Church; but {he is fallen off from that Church (as many o- thers have) and is now of none, doubting whether there be any Church or no upon the Earth; my Maid-Servant is of Paul Hobfins; my man belongs to a company of which there are fome twenty or, more yong men , who meet together to Ex- ercife, but fing no Pfalms, abominate the hearing of our Mini- fters, keep none of our dayes of Falling nor Thankfgiving. In/#/;laft about the 16 day, I was inlormed from good hands of perfons living in Colcbefter, that there were forne Se- ctaries of that Town, who held the day of Iudgement was fud- denly to come, and an Earthquake would be fhortiy in that moneth. They made a Queftion, Whether they (hould lay in any provisions againft Winter ; but all their fpeech was of pre- paring to go to femfatemjrom whence they fhould be taken up : They moved one Mrs. Af. who is a Seeker co go with them; but fhe Anfwered, fhe was not provided for fuch a journey : Some of them went up to London to fpe-ak with a left (as they reported) who acquainted them with thefe matters, and gave them directions about their journey. THere is one Paul Hobfon a Taylor, who comes out of Buckingham(hire, and is now a Captain, having been in the Armies5who hath been a Preacher a great while : This man when he was in the Army , where ever he came he would Preach publikeiy in the Churches, where he could get Pulpits*, N and po 4: Catalogue and Di [cover j of and princely to the Souldicrs ; the fubjeft matter of his Ser- mons was much againft Duties, and of Revelations, what God had revealed to him -, he. was a means to corrupt fome precious hopefull yon.g men who went out of £m*dm#m& Preaching one time againft Holy duties, (as an understanding man who heard him, related it to me and other company) he fpake thus: I was once as legal as any of you can be, I durft never a morning but pray, nor never a night before I went to Bed but pray ; I durft not eat a bit of Bread but I gave thanks; I daily prayed and and wept for my fins, fo that I had almoft wept out my Eyes with forrow for fin : But I am perfwaded* when I ufed all thefe duties, I had not one jot of God in me. This 7>aul Hobfon is one cf thofe whofe hand is fubfcribed to the Confeffion of Faith of the i/4nabaptifisr kt forth laft Winter. This Paul Hobfon Preached in NeWport-Pagnel, and thereabouts, in contempt of the Ordinance of Parliament made the laft April ; After he was once taken and queftioned for it, and let go3he comes back again and does it the fecond time, in contempt of the Governor of N eWport-T^agne J thn then was, and misbehaved himfelf; alfo rideMr. Pryns when apprehended, uttering many bold and feditious fpeeches, Rtefli Difcovc- that they W }ould acquaint their Friends in the Houfe of Commons ry of New- 0f their bad ufage ; that they were refolved to make this bufi- if ^tS>in E^ ne^c %^€ l€a^nb cafe °f x^e Kingdom for all the godly party ; adding, that tithe godly and WeS- off etled party Were thm perfects tedythey fbould be forced to make a Worfe breach then What Was yet3 When the.y had done With the Kings party; and faying,tt^» they had made an end of the War With the Cavaliers, they fljould be forced to raife a neW Army to fight With ihemxlhe matter of Hobfon and his Confederates preaching there,was againft our Church,Mini- ftery,ChildrensBaptifme; fome of them boafting of working Miracles, and cafting Devils out of men po ffeffed ; all which the Reader may finde in Mr. Pryns booke called, A frejh Mr. Wryvs Difcovery of NeW Lights ; and the truth of them aliened the frefh Difcove* feconcj time, in a Book intituled, The Lyar confounded, or a M ^PwL« briefe Refutation of John Lilburnes Lyes and Calumnies. Sir amfour.Jcd, Samuel Luke fent him up here for, a contempt againft an ex- p. ji; p. ' preffe Ordinance of Parliament, and the bufineffe was referred to many Err ours of the Sectaries. g I to a Committee, who heard and read the Examinations of the Witneffes, and the proofesof the charges againft him, bat I know not how it came about, inftead of fome exemplary pu- nifhment, this Hebfon was prefemly at liberty and preached the very next Lords Day in Moor Fields or thereabouts, (as I am informed from good hands,) and preaches ever fince on week dayes and Lords Dayes .' Every Wednesday in Finsbury fields in Checker-alley in the afternoone he preaches, where fome three or four months agoe he preached on Co llofians 3. ]f yee be rifen With Chrift, feeke the things that are above, and faid, ye are rifen above the Law, and above the world. This ^ Hobfon hath printed a Book of Sermons which he hath prea- t>%47.chrift ched, in which there are many Errors, as Chrift did not by his the effed not death purchafe life and falvation for all, no not for the elecT, the caufe of For it was not the end of God in thecomming of Chrift, to the love o£ purchafe love and life ; but Ghrift himfelfe was purchafed by J^r p . love that he might make out love, and purchafe us to love, for chrift the ef- Chrift came not to reconcile God to man,but man to God ; Se- fed not thg condly,that the undion which the Saints are faid to receive caufe. from the Holy One, 1 John 2. 20. is one with the Chrifthood of Chrift. Befides thefe there are many drains of Antinomianifme, Libertinifme, and unwholfome words which are not according to godlines,in that Treatife of Difcovery of Truth, page 63, 65 66. He hath alfo lately printed a Difcoarfe againft baptizing of children, upon occafion of that deputation that (hould have been between Mr. Calamy and fome of the Anabaptifts, and now he gives out that he is fent for by a Collonei to come to Briftoll to doe fome fervice there, (as if he had not done mif- cheif enough in London) and truly 'tis a fad thing that in all the Townes and Cities (for the moil: part)taken by the Parliaments forces, this ftiould be the fruit of it , that Errors and Herefies (hould abound there, and Sectaries of all forts get places of profit and power, and be the men all in requeft for offices and imployments. I have been told from a good hand, of a Letter lately written from 'Briftol from a very godly man that lives there, and is well known robe fo, to a godly Minifler in this N 2 City 9% Kyi Catalogue mdDifcovery of City of London that hath fome relation to Briftol, the contents whereof are as follows : That here at TZriftol none of the Townfmen or Countrey are taken in to be impioyed in any fer- vice, or put into any place, or lookt upon with any refped chat are godly, unleffe truy be men of the New Light and New way, but Malignants are rather preferred before them j and if things go on thus, I will leave the Kingdom, or words to this erTeft. THere is one Lamb who was a Sope-boyier, and a Church that meets in Bell- Alley in Colemanftreet called Lambs Church - This man and his Church are very Erroneous,ftrange D drines being vented there continually, both in Preaching ardin way of Difcourfing and Reafoning, and ftrange things alfo done by them both in the time of their Church meetings, and out of them. Many ufe to refort to this Church and meet- ing, the houfe, yards full, efpecially yong youths and wenches flock ihirher , and ail of them Preach univerfal Redemption. In their Ch. meetings and Exercifes there is fuch a confufion and noife,asif it were at a Play y and fome will be fpeaking here, fome there j yong youths and boyes come thither , and make a noife while they are at their Exercifes, and them of the Ghurch will go to make them quiet, and then they fight one with another. Lamb Preaches fometimes (when he can get into Pulpits) in our Churches. On the 5. of November 1644. he Preached at Grace-church in London y where. he had a migh- ty great Audience,and Preached univerfal Grace,the Arminian Tenets ; and he Preaches in the Countreys up and down j he Preached at gilford in Surrey, in one of the Churches, about the beginning oi September h^ and would have Preached at Godalming the fame week, fome coming to the Minifter for. leave, and the Minifter denying, Lamb came himfelf to him to have had the ufe of his Pulpit on a Lords day. This Lamb with one Oats and others of that Church, ufe to travel up and down the Countreys to Preach their corrupt Docl:rines3 and to* Dip. Lamb and Oats were at that time when he Preached at Gilfurdjgomg to Pmfmo?ttb&n& at another time an JEJfex Mini- fter many Erronrs of the Sectaries. 93 fter told me,that Lamb & one Tomlins with others,were travel- ling inEJfex to do the Devils work,and that thefe men were ftnt down from the Church as a Church Ad into the county of Ef- fex to make Difciples and propagate their way, and indeed into mod counties of England { where thefe men can go with fafery) fome Emiffaries out of the Sectaries Churches arefent toinfed and poyfon the counties, fome out of Lambs, fome out of Kif- fins, fome out of others. About September laft one Kiffin an Anabaptift went hisprcgreffe in Kent, and did a great deal of hurt ; and I have been informed from good hand*, by the means of fome that are acquainted and intimate wi:h them,thac not only EmifTaries from London go into thefe nigher counties, as SJfex, Kent, Suffolk^, Hartford, Cambridge , dec. but inr^o Yorkfhire and thofe Northern parts (fince reduced to the Par- liament) and no doubt alfo into the Weft ; and feveral Sedi- ries went early to Brifiol and thofe parts, as one Mr. 'Bacon, Symondsy&c. and into Wales alfo, fo that we are like to have Sedarifme like a univerfal Leprofie over-fpread this whole Kingdom ; I pray God keep it out of Ireland-, and I hope Scot- land by Gods mercy, and the benefit of the Presby ierial Go- vernment will keep it out there. But to return.to Lamb and his Church in their Church-meetings, they have manyExerci- fers , in one meeting two or three, when one hath done, rheres fometimes difference in the Church who fliall I'Excrcife ntx.-, "jtfs put to the Vote, fome for one, fome for another, fome for Brother Tench, fome for Brother Bat, fome for Brother Oats; and ft rangers who come thither,will make a cry,and cry out for whom they like beft as well as the Church,as a yong man of //>/- Voich coming thither of Novelty,and the queftion being put,who fcould Exercife next, Brother Bat or Brother Tench, he cry t d. out, Brother Bat, Brother Bat; in this Church *tis ufuai aid; lawful, not only for the company to ftand'up and obj'ed a^ainrf: the Dodrine delivered when the Exerciser of his gifts hath made an end, but in the midft of it, fo that fometimes upon force ftanding up and objecting , tncrete pro- and con tor' aim A aa hour, and falling out among themfelves before the man can have finiChed his Difcourfe. Oats who is a great Dipper and Preaches P4 -d Catalogue and Difcovery $f Preacher among them , delivered in Bell-Alley in Coleman- ftreet not long ago, That the Doctrine of Gods eternal Electi- on and PredelHnation was a damnable Doctrine and Error; and in the fame place fince the Deputation fhould have been between Mr. CaUmy and the Anabaptifts, this Oats Preached , That their Difputation (liould be forbidden by the C'ml Magistrate, was thegreateft affront that ever was offered to lefus Chrift, fince the forbidding of Peter and fohn to fpeak in the Name of Chrift. Of this Lambs Church there is one Mi&s, who marri- ed a Wife, and when he had got her eftate, would keep compa- ny no longer with her, nor will allow her any thing ; ftie hath often complained to the Church of him, but they jeer her ; (he hath followed him, but he is ready to ftrike her (as (he com- plains) and can have no rcdrefle ; the Members of this Church are generally loofe, many of them turn Seekers, and flight the Scriptures much. In the latter end of the Lords day many per- fons, fome of other feparate Churches, and fome of our Chur- ches will go to this Lambs Church for Novelty, becaufe of the difputes and wrangling? that will be there upon qucftions, all kinde of things ftarted and vented almoft , and feveral com- panies in the fame room, fome fpeaking in one part , fome in in another. On a Lords day lately in Lambs Church in the Evening, there were three or four companies wrangling toge- ther,and putting queftions,fome maintaining that the regenerate part in a childe of God was perfect, as alfo one Mr. P. a Mem- ber of Mr. f. GooMns Church reafoned for a poffibility of men to be faved who are not Elected. Upon the Ordinance of Parliament coming forth againft mens Preaching who are not ordained Minifters, the laft Lord Mayor having information of Mechanicks preaching in Colemanftreet wpomtci fome officers to go and fee ; they coming to the houfe where Lambs Church was in Bell- Alley, took a yong man about twenty years of Age a Weaver, and Lamb, at their Excercifes ; the Church abufed thefe officers, and called them Perfecuters, and Perfecuting Rogues ; but Lamb gave better words, and defired they might be let alone till they had finifhed their Exercifes,and they would upon their words meet them, and be forthcoming at my Lord Mayors many Err cms of t he Sectaries . 9 5 Mayors houfe about fix of the clock ; whereupon the officers give them that liberty ,and according to their words they came; being brought before the Lord Mayor that then was, his Lord- flaip asked the yong man firft why he Preached,& what warrant he had ? his Anfwer to the Lord Mayor was , O Lord open thtm my lips, and my mouth fiall/beVp forth thyprai[e\ Cjod hadopers td hi* mouth, and he muftjbe'ft forth Gods praifei My Lord An- fwered him, he might fhew forth the praife of God in the dif- charge of his Calling, and otherwife in his place as a private Chriftian. My Lord asked him how long he had been a Prea- cher; he Anfwered, everfince he had been a Difciple; My Lord asked him how long that had been; he Anfwered, ever fincehe was Baptized: My Lord Replied, hath your mouth been opened everfince your Infancy ? he told my Lord, his In- fants Baptifme was no Baptifme ; but he had been Baptifed not above fix moneths. Then my Lord fpake to Lamb of his Prea- ching, faying, You have tranfgrefled an Ordinance of Parlia- ment ; he made Anfwer, No, for he was a Preacher called and chofen by as Reformed a Church as any was in the world ; My Lord took Bail of them to Anfvver it before a Committee of Parliament, and they appearing, were committed for a while, and then let out by the means of fome Friends they hive, and have Preached fince more openly and frequently then be- fore; fo that the late Mayor when he faw that the Commit- tees of Parliament fuffered their own Ordinances to be thus contemned, committed no more of th?m; neither doth this pr.- fent Lord Mayor, feeing it is in vain. NOw unto all the former Sectaries both in City and Coun- try, I might adde a particular Relation of thefe following; One Kiffin a great active Anabaptift, one Patience his fel- low preacher,that would not be fuffered in Ne\\>- England: One Mr. Coxe who came out of Devonfbire an Innovator, and great time-ferver in the Bifliops time, that againft the will of the Bi- fhop of Exeter Dr. Hall his Diocefan brought in Innovations into his Parilh Church, (as fome godly people that came out of thofe g6 A Catalogue and Difc every ef thofc pares have informed me) who hath put out a Pamphlet called, A Declaration concerning the fubli\e Diffute Vphich fhoulX have been in the p tiblike meeting Honfe of Alderman* bury the third of December concerning Infants Baptifme : One Thomas Moor of Lincoln/hire a great Sectary and Mani- hitarian that haih done much mifchiefe in thofe parts ; One Mr. Wallin a Seeker, and a dangerous man, a ftronghead-.one Mr. Robwfon, who is commonly reported to be the Author of that Book called Liberty of Qonfcience9 Printed in the yeere 1 643 .and by MtsFryn fpoke of as the fuppofed Author of many Mr. Pryvs dif- other fcandalous Books : one John Lilburn, a darling of the covery of New Sectaries, who hath printed ft range Letters againft Mr. Pryn, Lights, p. 9 the Parliament, the Ordinance of Tithes, the Aflembly and. ^ML//TCtteC Black'coatMnd hath carried himfelf in an unparalleld way lViL Lette7"to °^ mf°lency an(l contempt of Authority, a great (tickler in the a friend of his meetings at the w'wdmil Tavern, and drawing up petitions for from prifon. the Parliament , at which meetings he hath fpoken ftrange ViLLilb.lrmo- things, and in which petitions ftrange claufes have been infer- Cuft?fied 1 ted, (as godly Chriftians,ear and eye-witneffes have informed Lette/toitf- me, )a man who pretends great piety, holineffe, and furTering bum of Eng- for the truth of God, as his own books, and his friends letters lands iam:nta- of him give out, and yet from good hands of godly Minifters blefUvery and an(j others, he is reported to be a man of a loofe life, pro- lyu Dodor pkan*n§ £^e Lords Day in Sports, one who is a player at Baiwicks juft Cards, one who will fit long with company at Wine and defence againft Tipiing, and hath done ail he hath done for money 5 printing the calumny of £)r. Baftfticks Bookes for money in the Bifliops times to John Lilburne. fet r Up vvirHT went out in the Parliaments fervice , being fo necerficous before the warres , that he knew not what *to to do for himfelf and his family; and it may without all breach of charity be judged that he hath printed feverall Pamphlets (which being unlicenfed and of fuch kinde of Arguments , fell dear J and abufed the Parliament fo intolerably and fearfully feveral wayes, and all to get money. One Mr. Bacon who was fometimes of Glocejter, and Preached feveral Erroneous Do- ctrines, and after conviction and all fair dealing with him, be- ing incorrigible was caft out of Glocefter , but here in London hath many trrours of the Seffanes. 97 hath been entertained in the houfe of a great man, one Barber an Anabaptift about Thredneedle-ftreer. One Mr. Bachilorfhz Licenfer general of Books , not only or Independent Do- ctrines, but of Books for a general Toleration of all Seels, and againft Poedobaptifme, &c. One Randal who Preaches about Spittle-yard, a great Antinomian and Eamilift, a man of a loofe life, and large confciencc • but there would be no end of naming all. I (hall give a brief Relation of two more only, and that fhall fuffice for prefenr. Tne firft is one Mr. KttoWs, who would not be fuffered in 7{eto- England; bat about four years ago came into old SngUndi he Preached at Chrifiophers Churcb,be- hinde the Exchange , a little after his coming over, that the ufe of prefcribed Lyturgies, as the Book of Common- Prayer, was Idolatry ; and all they that ufed it fhould be damned, and it was delivered fo abfolutely without any condition of Repentance or forfaking ir,that k much ftartledjthis man a litle after difcoVered himfelf to bean Antinomian, and was in a Brotherly way dealt with by fome Minifters meeting at }Ar.Calamies ^nd after fome reafoning and debace(if my memory doth not extremely fail me, which it feldom doth in matters of this nature) he and Mr. Simpfon the Antinomian, fee their hands to a Paper drawn up of fome Propoilcions concerning the Moral Law and the Tea Commandments delivered by Mofcs ; and yet after that com- plaints were made to the Minifters by fome godly Chriftians of either one or boths Preaching againft thofe points they had fub- fcribed. This KnoMs went into the Army which vyas under the command of the Earl of ' Manchefler , where he did a great deal of mifchief; and afterwards coming to London, Preached at Soft in Chtapftde openly againft Cbildrens Baptifme, which then gave fo great offence , that he was complained of to the Parliament for that Doctrine ; where after fome time he getting free , went down into Suffolk \ and there played his Rekes not only for Preaching ftrange Doctrine, but in fuch a tumultuous,feditious factious way, (going as I have been informed) with fome armed men accompanying him, and Preaching in the Churchyard,when he could not in the Church, and getting up the Pulpits when the Sermon or Lectures had O been p8 4 CAt^°iuc an^ leftover j $f been ended, agiinft the will of the Minifter and Parifh, fo that there werefeveral Riots and tumuUs by his means, fo that he was fent up by fome in Authority in that county, with Arti- cles and complaints againft him to a Committee of Parliament; and after he got off from that Committee (as the Sectaries finde too many Friends in Committees, of which there arc many fad examples) he goes, and in the heart of London^ in great St. Hellens, next door to the publique Ghurch,keeps in the time of publique worftiip his meetings, where for a longtime great refort was to him, fome of the Neighbors having told me, that according to their eftimation they could not judge the num- ber leffe then iooo,which many dayes reforted thjther,-and after his Landlord would fuffer him to ftay no longer, now in Fmf- bury Fields he is fet up, and hath made a great meeting houfe by breaking one room into another (as I am iaformed aifo). And laftiy, this KnoVols is one of them who dares keep pub- lique Difputatioas (though it is well known he is a weak man, and forry Difputant) with Minifters of the city againft Toedo- baftifme, and is one of thtmwhofe hand is fubferibed to the Declaration lately pur forth concerning the publique Difpnte which lhould have been concerning Infants Bap ifme. The laft of allisoneMr. Peters the Soliciter Generall for the Sectaries, who came out of Nety- England about four years and four moneths ago, concerning whofe Preaching, pradtifes and proceedings in city and country, I could write a whole Book, having received certain informations from honed men, Eas and Eye- wftnefles of his Preaching and carriage ; but it is too long to tell you what he hath vented agaitft the Aflembly, Presbytery, the Reformed Churches, Directory, yea and Parliament in his way, and how he hath pleaded for Antinomy ans, Anabaptifts feveral times, and how often in Pulpits he hath taken his leave of Old Eng/and,znd every Spring for fome years told them of hisprefent going to Ncto-EngUnd ; this man is an Vbiquitary here and there, in chis countrey, and that coun- trey, in the Army, and at London; when ever the Independents or fome other St&aries are about any great defign or bufineiTe, he mud be fent for, though from the -Army • as for inftance at the many Errours of tht Sectaries. pp the Siege of Brifiol^ when aimoft read}' to be Eaken , in the men; of whofe Preachings at Reading, greenfte«dy&c. I couid ^me1tTnzto give the Reader an account, but that I mull ftudy Brevity. And confuic 0f chu- now chat their defign for a Toleration hath lately more vigo- iingBurgeffcs, ioufly been profeiuted and purfued then heretofore, I am per- i»formed me fwaded Mr. Teters's late coming up from the Army hath been ^^ h™d in relation tothac, though there may be forae ether ends too of 0J^ w„owjf his coming. And Ht* Peters Is Co bold, daring, and adive for relate, that the Se&arie5,:hat againft ail their own Church-principies(their to tee the moftfacred,thacof the power of the Churcb) Mr. Peters is end of his co- kept here, and muft not goto NcV-EngUnd: And for that I T&^i*3? will tell the Reader this Story, Mr. Peters had exprefle Letters and uich great from the Church of which he is Minifter, without aii excufe or Commanders longer delay to come away to NeVc-England as this laft Sum- in the Army* mer ; Himfelf meeting a Minifter of my fpecial acquaintance, (wh°™ I for- told him, I am now going for NeW-England fhortly ; To whom ^° ™"0 my Friend faid, I,you have been long a going, I will not believe Care of that! a it Mr. Peters Replied, I, but now I go, certainly I muft, the Church hath eommanded,written peremptorily for me,ancfdrew „ifia- Whowa out the Letters. But upon occafion or the Churches writing prefent™t°he* thus, for Mr. Peters going to 2vV\fe- England, there are meetings Debates told \ of feveral Independent Minifters Cof the Grandee?^) to conftik me this and and refolve this cafe of confeience about Mr. Peters going, anymore confidering the peremptory call of the Church ; the refult and P*"iculars. 0f iflue of thefe meetings, was, that Mr. Peters being fo ufeful a .tJ1€lcrnceang?' man here ftiould not go, but ftay in England ; and the obje- ction of the command of the Church being urged , it was An- fwered, and fo Refolved, That if the Church were twenty Churches that fent for him, he thould not go. I will only par- ticularly fpeakof onepaffageinMr. Peters Sermons, and then I have done with him; He hath frequenly in city and countrey in many places, as at £helmsjsrd]n Ejfex, and at feveral Chur- ches in London, Preached, That if it were not for Livings of Two or three hundred pounds a year, there would be no diffc- O 2 rence ioo K^d Catalogue And Difcoverj tf rence between the Presbyterians and Independents (wickedly and rnalitioufly infinuating to the people) as if the Presbyte- rian Mimftersoppofedthe way of Independency, and ,ftood for Presbytery,becaufc of great Livings,a thing our fouls abhor, and could by miny demoftrations refutejbut I will only fay this, Thatfet afide Dr. Burgess 400. Uper An. fo much flicking in the ftomacks of the Independents, it will be found that feveral of them have greater maintenance, and better outward Accom- modations, of Sequeftred houfes, Libraries given them, prefer- ment for children, friends, with other ad vantages, befides their maintenance in their private Churches, then any Presbyterians have that I know of: And I believe it would be found upon fearch, That Mr. Peters the Independent hath had Two or three hundred pounds a year, and better fome years fince he came over into England ; he hath had the Archbifliops Library Of Plundered given him, a hundred pounds in money at once by the Houfe of goods. Commons, his pay in the Army (though he be fo much out of it) he bought (as I am told from thofe that know it) of Appa- reijHangingSsand fuch like,at one time, as he could not get leffe then two or three hundred pounds by, befides all the fums of mo- ney that have been given him for his pains in Ireland, and Hol- land; & I believe if he be well called to an account by the Com- mittee of Accompt, for all the moneys he hath received in Kent in the firft or fecond years of the Wars, and all the mo- neys for fending poor children over into NeVv-Sngland, with Receipts in other places, which I may not hear of, nor cannot givefo good a reafon of as of the former; it may be found an Independent hath had as good a Living, Two or three hun? dred pounds a year, and that free of all Taxes, as any Presby- terian in thefe times, with his Parfonage of Three or four hun« dred a year. And this may fuffice for a Narration of the pro- ceedings of feveral great Sectaries. Now I will adde a few remarkable Paffages,and fo come to the third part of this Book, the Corallaries and Obfervations upon the whole M .. ,.„j arrows of the Sectaries. 101 An Extratt oftfto Letters lately Written. GOod Mr. Edtoards, my hearty thankes premifed for the Letters received from you the laft weeke,I am much com- forted, and fo are all with us, that pray for the peace of Ieru- falem,ihn the City both Minifters and people, are for the greater part fo united in their defire of governmenr,and for the fupprcffion of Schifme that gangrens our Church and State. «£# Things are in a fad pofture with us, giddy people have all in- couragement from iome that are in place to feparate from com- munion with us; they grow very bold and infolentjno Magt- ftrates dares controll them; lee Minifters but do their duties in confuting their opinions, the rnouthes of men are filled with obftreperous clamours againft them ; many Minifters that af- fect popularity, though otherwife Orthodoxe,grow mealy *5* mouthed,& dare not open their rnouthes againft them,but ftand in a condition of Neutrality till they fee which way the wind will blow. The Directory and Affembly are much fcorned and flighted : One of our graved Lecturers, (I wifh I could fay dif* creeteft) hath ever fince our meeting about Clafficall Affem- blies, opened himfelf with much bitterneffe againft the Parlia- ment; Affembly, and Scottifh Government, calling the Parlia- ment ftout-hearted, the Affembly a rotten company, the go- vernment Ecclefiafticall in Scotland a filthy {Unking govern* ment; the Independents doe out- wit and out-act their brethren that diffent from them. Its a fad thing to thinke that fo much 'JgA blood hath been fp ilt,and vaft fums of money fpent,if in the end we fliould have a Toleration ; Oh what promifes have we had of Vniformitie in Religion,both in Doctrine and Difcipline! but the fons of Zerviah are , too ftrong for us; fed [edit in coeii* ar47,he cryed up Mr, J. his Antagonift for a holy Saint of God : Old Mr. J\ for a glorious Saint, and that every ftone the boyes caft at him was a Jewell,comparing the pretended abettors to Cat^urfes^Thieves Rogues. He com- plained how the Saints were perfected alive and dcacj* and gave inftance in an Anabaptift which the Jaft week Mr. C Minifter ftaid for fome time from being buried, denying him in his life time all his dues, but told the people this poor man (hall judge them at the laft day. Here comes Newes downc of a Toleration, and the Sectaries fay they have Letters inform them, that they ball yet tread upon the necks of Gods Ene- mies. Goodman S. the lad Night could not hold the glorious Newes , but faid their friends in the Parliament told them they (hall have a Titration. All things here tend to apparent mii- chiefe; communicate thefe things to Mr. £. and the Affembiy men; fend me word what fa fit to doe to vindicate my felfe; to fuffer many Err ours of the Sectaries. 103 fuffcr it is incolerabie. Myyeerly meanes befides is detained; fome Minifters that fome weeks (ince were Presbyterians, have declared themfelves the laft week tantummn Independents, Dear friend, for Chrifts fake minde me in this bufindfe, for its conceived abroad that I am the Author of all diforders here, and that which lies near my heart, is, That fome Presbyterians think fo, and fo deftroy their own intercft. Thine in ^efvu Chrifi. HAving given the Reader a particular Narration of many of the Sectaries, with a true copy of feveral Letters, and an Extract of others ; I will adde a few remarkable Paflages concerning them, and fo come to the third and laft part of this Book. On the 24. of December laft, a Citizen of good worth in this City related to me at his own houfc in the hearing of many others, That on Monday being the 22 of December going to hear Mr. Bridge Preach on Fifhftreet-Hiil, in the Chancel of that Church, a little before the Sermon began, he faw a man wichfeme people gathered about him, fpeaking to them; and heard him fay, That men in the latter dayes (fpeaking of thefe times ) fliould have more light then the Apoftles had, and that we fliould not tye our felves to the imperfection s of the Apo- files. About the beginning of May laft, a judicious godly Mi- nifter who came out of the coumrey told me in the hearing of a Gentleman alfo, that the Sectaries fay they have Grievances; 1. The AlTembly of Divines. 2. The Scotch Army. 3. The Committee of both Kingdoms. 4. TheHoufeof Peers. 5. The Houfe of Commons meddling thus with matters of Religion. November laft the 1 1. 1 was informed for certain , from the ce- ftimony of an honeft godly man, that would not tell an unrruth for Ten thoufand pound, who was alfo an Ear-witnefTe, That at Kifjins the Anapaptifts Church, when their Ex.ercifes were finilhed, a Paper was given in to this effecT, which was read to know a Reason why they met every firft day of the week, ac- cording to the cuftome of the Nations? And why about nine of the clock according to the cuftoroe of -the Nation* > And why 1 04 A Catalogue and Dlfcovery of why they Preached and Prayed fo long , according to the cnftome of the Nations f At the fame time alfo a woman fpake in that Church, and fome cryed, Sfeak^ out : whereupon Kiffin told the Church, he would relate the whole matter, which was,That this woman being fick,fhe fentfcrhim; he coming to her, Prayed and Anointed her with oyle upon her Breaft and Stomack, but yet fhe did not mend upon it ; whereupon flic fent again for him ; he remembring the words of the Apb- ftle, That it was the Elders of the Church , he took with him his Brother Tatience ; and fo they Prayed over her, and Anointed her with cyle, and (he was raifed up, and defired that thanks might be given unto God for it 5 and upon further enquiry of this Anointing , befides the third Letter fpeaking of it, I have it brought me two or three other wayes. I have been informed for certain, -and that upon a fecond en- quiry after the truth of it, that on the 12 of Novemb. laft, there met a matter of 80 Anabaptifts (many of them belonging to the Church of one 'Barber) in a great houfe in Biftiopfgate- ftreet,andhadaLove-Fealr, where five new Members lately Dipped were prefent; the manner of their meeting was as fol- lows, taken from the relation of one of their own Members who was at it : When the company was met together, they be- gan with Prayer; after Prayer,every one of the company kneel- ed down apart* and Barber ^ with another of their way, went to each of them one after another, and laid both their hands upon every particular head, women as well as men, and either in a way of Prayer, prayed they might receive the Holy Ghoft ; or elfe barely to every one of them ufed thefe words, Receive the Holy Ghoft ; after thefe words they fate down to Supper, which wasdrcfled for them by a Cook ; when Supper was ended, before the cloth was taken away, they adminiftred the Lords Supper; after the Receiving of that, in the clofe a aqueflion was propounded, Whether Chrift died for all men or no I which they fell into difpute of 5 and being late. Eleven of the clock at night, and the party who related it having a great way home,left the company hot at this Difputation;which was many Brrours tf the Seel dries. 1^5 was likely to hold them fome time ; the party who relates this was fomewhat troubled at this new bufinefle of hying on of hands thus, as not well knowing the meaning #f it • but upon enquiry, the party relates fo far as couid be learned upon ask- ing fotne other of the Members ; the meaning is this , That fuch perfons who now after the laying on of thefe hands (hall have sifts, muft be fent to Preach into the countreys, yea, into the Greets openly andpublikely , yea, to the doors of the Parlia- ment Houfes ; and the forenamed party faid, The like had been done in another Church of the Anabaptifts before ; and added, They agreed to forbear a while from fending them inte the ftreets publikely, and to the Parliament to Preach, till they fliould fee how things would go. A little before the choife oi Common- Councel men for the City of London for this prefent year, the Seftaries ufed all means, yea, and tumultuous difhoneft wayes to get faithful god- ly well-affefted men to the Parliament, who were Presbyte- rians,not to be chofen, and to bring in Independents, and Inde- pendenti(h perfons in their room ; infomuch that fome Inde- pendents went about tofeveral houfes wherethey thought they were likely to finde any acceptance, and fpake^ againft the old Common Councel men cafting afperfions upon them ; yea, I was affured from good hands, that papers with names of old Common-Councel men were thrown about the Wards into fe- veral houfes, againft thofe they would not have chofen (who yet were men that were as well affected to the publique as can be deilred, and have done as much) and other Names put in whom they would have chofen ; And becaufe I would be cer- tain of this report, I defired theperfon who related it to help me with one of thefe Papers, who accordingly did, and I here Print it verbatim, that the world may fee whatftirring fellows Ihefe Sectaries are, tofcatter about fuch things. OUT, Glide, Mead, Meredith, Hart, Tlactyell , fejfon, Hobfon, Randall, IN, TarkftVattghan >Doj ley, Sheaf e, Read, Fenton , Babery Hart. Two well-afTc&ed Citizens related to me December 18. Thatfpeaking with an Independent Minifter in this Citv of P Paul xp5 • A Catalogue and pit f cover j of Patd Befis damnable Doctrines againft the Trinity, and o* his Biafphemies, for which he was imprifoned ; He Anfwered, this imprifbnment : would do no good at all: It was Replied, What if this Befl or any Arrian would gather a Church and vent his Opimons,fhall the Magiftrate fuffer them? What muft be done in this cafe*? The Minifter anfwered, caufe him to fweat with Arguments 5 but there was no Authoritative power under theGofpel to remedy it. Thefe Citizens objected that in the 1 3 of Deuteronomy , Whether fuch a man fhould not be punifhed as well as the falfe Prophet ? The Anfwer was, Chrift in the Gofpel had moderated things; Adultery was death under the old Law, and yet Chrift let the woman go away taken in Adultery ; and fo it was in this cafe. One of thefe Citizens told mc alfo, he fpake of thefe things to another Independent Minifter, who made an Anfwer to the fame pur- pofe, That the Magiftrate might not punifti fuch ; adding, The Magiftrate had nothing to do in matters of Religion, but in ci- vil things only. Another well-affected Citizen, and a Com- mon Councel man of good worth related it to me and others, That an Independent Minifter within a few miles of London, one Mr. L. had (aid to him, That men ought not to be troubled for their confeiences? but Papifts ftiould be fuffered 5 and for his part, if he knew Papifts who were at their Devotions of Beads, Images, &c. he would not have them hindred nor di- ilutbed. There is a godly man of good rank who lives here, about London, had a man Servant would leave him and go to another Service ; hisMafter asking the lleafon, he faid he would have the Liberty of his confeience : What's that Replied his Matter ? The Servant made this Anfwer, I would have the Liberty of my confeience, not to be Catechized in the Princi- ples of Religion. June hft the 21 day, a Gentleman of Bed- fordfhire told me , That a great Sectary in their countrey, when the Minifter was in the Pulpit on the Lords day, called to him to come down, and asked him what he did there, faying,he' had no calling : This Sectary was brought before the Commit- tee of Bedford >znd there carried himfelf boldly , putting on his Hat before them. I enquired further of it, and another Gen- marjj Br r ours of the Sectaries. i q ~> Gentleman of thai Committee atfured me it was fo, The fam e Lords day alfc at a Town wkhin a mile of the other place, a godly Minifter being in the Pulpit, and Preaching upon Repen- tance, piefli g it,a woman flood up and faid to him openly, ehac he Preached fycsStid folfe Doctrine. A Minifter who was a Preacher in Sttfftx felated to me, That he Preaching upon San- edification and f&ch points, a Sectary publikely cryed out to htm,fpeakingagaii?ft him for ir. I have thefe following parti- culars about disturbance in Preaching, and the boldneffe of the Sectaries againft fome godly Minifters who Preach againft their Errors, given me in writing under the hands of Ear-witneffes with their Names fubferibed. Upon a Faft day 1644. a god- ly Minifter Preaching in Buto/phs Church at Colchefter , a Sectary fpake thefe words , That I will be one of the firft that fliall pluck (naming the Minifters name) outof the Pulpit and knock his brains out,anc) all fuch bawling curs as he is. Another Minifter Preaching in Colchefter againft Schifme, in the time while he was Preaching, a Sectary fpake thefe words with a loud voyce,fo as all that flood near were difturbed, O What a vile Wretch is this ? O What a Devil is this ? And when Sermon was immediatly done, O What an Enemy of Gods People is this t He hath Preached Blajphemy : That he came from the Devil, and to the jD evil he Would go : which words fhs fpake aloud. And becaufe Chrift- Church troubles the Sectaries much , and 7". E. Preaching there, as it feems by Mr. Burtons late Reply to The Door of Truth opened; and his brief Anfwcr to Dr. BaftWicks two late Books, pag. 24. I will therefore acquaint the Reader of twopaflages only of the infolency and diforder of the Sectaries, in reference to Chrift-Church (though indeed as many can witnefle, they have all the rime from the beginning of that Lecture by railing and wicked reports, by hubbubs and ftirs, by laughing and fleering in the face of the Congregation, and in the midft of the Sermons, fought to blaft and daft) it) The firft is a Paper given me up into the Pafpif, as in the na- ture of a Bill, which I here fet down vclfcdtim. To Mr. Edwards, Sfr, Ton ft and 04 one pr oftffin^ jour (elf to beinftruftzdby Chrift , With abilities from god to throit? doWn P 2 Error 1 i o 8 ^A Catalogue and Difcovery of Error ; and therefore to that end do Preach every Third day • May it they ef ore pleafe you and thofe that imploy yon in that Wfor^y to givethefe leave fyhom you fo brandy as publikely to ob~ jett againfi Xbhat you fay Vehen your Sermon u ended, as you de- clare your ft if ; and Voe hope it Vvillbe an increafe of further lioht to all that fear God^and put a large advantage into your hands if you have the truth on your fide, to caufe it to Jbine ftith more evidence \ and [hope Vve (hall do it With moderation as becometh Chriftians. 77?^^, William Kiffin. The fecond is that about the beginning of September ;< tn my Sermon having foma patfages againft the Preaching of illi- terate Mechanick perfons, one ftampr with his foot and faid aloud, This "Bafcally Rogue deferves to be puU 'd out of the Pulpit : upon whofe word?, half a dozen more who flood near him faid, Let's go pull him out of the Pulpit ; whereupon, one Mr. B. fpake to them, and the firft man who railed on me , called hrmRafcaltoo,and foallofthem wentoutofthe Church. Ottober laft, 25. day, one Mr. C a godly Minifter told me, That about three or four dayes before, hapning into the com- pany of one Mr, Vicars (who lives at Colchefier^is the Minifter reported to me) and reafoning againft the way of Independen- cy, Mr. Vicars wifhed him not to be fo earneft againft ir, for he g^ was confident within three monerhs there fhouid be a Tolera- tion eftablidied ; and this he fpake from knowing, men who knew ir, and could help eoeffeftit: whereupon Mr. C. told him, he would fpeak of this freely in the city, Army, countrey, *hat he had thus reported there Ihould be a Toleration, In Ottober laft, the 16 day, one.Mr. F. told me, he thought many of the Sectaries would ere long be againft civil Govern- ment as Ecclefiaftical; for faith; he, a Minifter aSeftary fpake it in my hearing, and the hearing of others, very boldly and openly, That the people ought or might call the Parliament to an account for their money, and the great Taxes laid upon them ; and if the Parliament had called the King to an account for his Impofitions and Taxes, why ftiould not t&e Parliament as many Err ours of the Sectaries. i op as well be called to an account by the people t and he added moreover they would be, with other words to chat effect In September laft there was a Petition drawn up by feme well*af£ecl:ed Citizens,and fent abeut to be fubferibed by hands of well- affected people,to be prefented to the Parliament for the fpeedy fetling of Church-Government , {hewing the great rnifchiefs, as the broaching of all abominable Errors, &c. for want of it, which was brought to the twndsofone Mr. Al- ley that he for Stepney faould get hands for it (as others did for other places) this Petition being brought to Mr. ^Alleys by well-affected men, he carried it to Dr. Hoyle, Dr. Hoyle gave order it ftiould be read in the Church afcer Mr. Burroughs had flni&ed his morning Lecture, that fo many people being toge- ther, they might with leffe trouble have a fubfeription ot hands; whereupon Mr. Burroughs (though he had done his Excrcifej yet he (lands up and fpeaks againft ity and againft fubferibing of it, ufing Arguments againft it, that it came thither from no Authority but the Vicars, and how could they fubferibe to a Petition for a Government which they never faw, nor knew what it was, with other Arguments. Mr. Greenhill alfo in the Afternoon fell bitterly upon fpeaking againft the Petition, and warning the people not fubferibe it by any means ; and this Mr. Alley vms baited and rated by feveral of the Sectaries and them of that way that he met wkh ; both in the ftreer, and upon the Exchange, and in ail places they gave him reproachful fpeeches, faying, he fought the blood of them; whereas allhe ,r did,was,that the Petition coming to him,ne earned it ro the Dr. the violent but gotnever a hand to it,and all he did was openly too;befides Spirit of Setfa- this man is a great Friend of Mr. BurroHghs,and Mr, Greenhill^ n?s againft all having pleaded for them in my hearing, alwayes fpeaking Ferfons^nd honorably and tenderly of them, and expnfling alfo his defire pieaf/s not' of liberty and indulgence for them as being godly and learned \^t men ;(but a man being con(cientioufe,and feeing the mifchlef of Toleration, and the good offetled Government , was willing this Petition fhould go on)yetthis man was thus ufed.Mr.C/m'*- hill alfo on the Faft day following, which was the 24. of Sep. fell upon this Petition in a bitter manner, giving this Petition many no A Catalogue and Difwvery of many Epithites, 9 or 10 fas it was related to me,and if it (hould be fo, * tis much in Mr. Greenhil accounted a moderate man) as fcandalcus,feditious, tyrannical, and fuch like, fpeaking againft Presbyterial government that it would be more tyrannical then Bifhops.and would you return into Egypt again? and either Mr. Greenhil or Mr. Burroughs upon occalion of this Petition, faid, was this all your kindnes to them in the Army that had done fo much for us ? with fuch like psflages. Mr. 'Burroughs alfo,as in the forenoon at Stepney, fo the fame Lords Day at Cripplegate warned the people againft this Petition, & among other Argu- ments faid,whk: will you have us banHhed from you ? (where- upon fome of the people wept)and told them in the Pulpit, he would refolve any that {hould come to him of the unlaw fulnes of that Petition. The next day fome well- affected Citizens went tohishoufetbberefdlved,whoputhimtoir, and made him everrfwe&t againe ; he asked them whether they were of this Parifti, and faid if they were not of this Parifh,he would not refolve them; but ftill they put him to it wherein it was un- lawful!, and fome of them that were with him report Mr. Bur- roughs faid little, but his wife fpake much and took upon her, and faid it was a fecond Binions Petition. Mr. Wells of NeVe- England fpake againft this poor Petition too, with many o- ther of the Independents and Sectaries of all forts ; fome of them were not afhamed to fay it was a Digbies petition, and made by Digby. Many alfo of the Pamphleteers (who I think are the peniioners of that party, and I am fure one of them be- ing lately tryed to infert into his weekly Newes the petition prefented at the choice of the new Gommon-counceI,confeffed ingenuoufly he could not,for he was ingaged to the other fide,) branded this Petition, The PerfeB Paffages > as promoted by %* perfons iti-aWeUed. invented by the Lord Digby, tomahefratti- from September r J JJ > / , P ]Z , .r N J, . j to zz- ms mmr *s4ri»y * A wry dangerous Petition, and ij any be %ot ef this mindefi{they '^illbut repaireto Mr. Burroughes or any Vide Moderate tyelj-affefted Mirrifier they may be further fatufied. The Mo- ImeUig' ncer, derate Inte<)^;encer as voted tobefatfe, fcandahus, and that a Numb. 3 c Commitee fanld inquire ottt the Author to betpunifhed;bi:Cidcs hom September j^ makes jt t0 fe a quarrelling with our friends, and making 11 • t0 2>* enemies yifo Pcrfeft Parages*. Numb- 48- many Err ours of the Sectaries. Hi enemies of them, and unfeafoniible ; (o alio the FerfeU Occur' rences of that week,with others of them had a fling at this Peti- tion and the Petitioners. "November laft.the 1 8. day,fo foon as I came out of the Pul- pit at Chrifi Church, at the very foot of the Pulpit ftood a man Gentlemanlike all in fcarlet, ayong man, but being dus- kiCh, I could not perfectly difcerne his countenance; he dtfired to fpeake a few words with me,fo I ftood ftillj and thefe were his words ( which immediately upon parting, with himj told fome friends who came into the Veftry to me, ) Sir,youfpeak againftthe preaching of Souidiers in the Army^ but I affure you, if they may not have leave to preach, they will not fight : and if they fight not, we muft all fly the Land and be gone: both you and I, muft not ftay here, for thefe men who are Preachers, both of Commanders and Troopers, are the, men whom God hath hleffed fo within this few months,to rout the e- nemy twice in the field,& to take in many Garrifons of Caftlesf and Townes,(as I remember he faid to the number of 2i.)and ;I thought good to let you underftand fo much, and this is all |I have to fay; to whom I replyed never a word, becaufe the people were commingby us, as alfo to prevent ailoccafion of tumult, but parted with the Gentleman Fairly. In Decemb.i6^xommg into Mr. Smiths fihop in CorMil,nczt the Exchange where fomc perfons were, there was fome dif- courfe about Liberty of Conscience ,and Tolerations, whereupon I jfpake againft it,& Mr. Cole Bookfeller confefled he was againft a Igenerall Liberty ofConfcience by what he faw and knew; for he knew a company that were a Church, to which he had;once thoughts of all other Churches to have joyned himfelfe a Mem- ber, who now deny the Scriptures to be the Word of God,and haye meetings to reafon againft the Scriptures; whereupon I as- kea him wnat Church they were; hefaid a Church of Brow- nifts within thefe few tyeers ; he alledged alfo their Reafons why they denied the Scriptures, becaufe there were untruths contained in them, with other Reafons which I forbear to rrcrrar, unleiTe I annexed an Anfwer to them ; I faid to Mr. Cole if hey denied the Scriptures then they could not beleeve lefus CJbrift ill A Catalogue and Difcovery of Chrift,they muftqueftion him; he replied,hc had cbjefted that, and forkfus Chrift they held there was fuch a one becaufe of Hiftories, as they did beleeve there was a Qaeen Elizabeth be- caufe Chronicles make mention of her : Other paflages were fpoken of the Holy Ghoft which I forbear to fpeake of. Mr. Cole related alfo he went on a Faft day in the Evening to find thefe perfons out, and found them- playing at Tables ; fo in the clofel defired the company that flood by, as Mr, Bur- roughs a godly Minifter,(not Mr. Burroughs of the Affembly) Mr. Smith, with fome others, to bear witneffe what Mr. Cole had faid, and told hhim I would not conceale it, and bring guile upon my felfo, but acquaint authority with it, and according- ly with my hand, Mr. Burroughs and Mr. Smiths fubferibed it was given into a Committee. This Mr. CW^hath often faid it to Mr. Smith (as if he be called he is ready to be depofed J that he knew many who met to difpute againft the Scriptures, and hath been at themmectings, and once (hewed him one of them telling him his name 5 he alfo at another time told Mr.Farthing that he knew many who denied the Scriptures, and that for three Reafons which he gave him, the very fame he named in my hearing, and the hearing of Mr. Burroughs and Mr. Smith; And fo much for the fecond part of this Book. THE "3 THE THIRD PART O F T H E B O O K; Confifting of certain Corollaries and Obfervations upon the Errors, Blaf- phcmies and Pra&ifes of the Se&aries laid down in this Catalogue. I. Corrollary. Ence then we may take notice from all the Er- rors, Herefks,Blafphemies,3nd praclifes of the Sectaries, laid downeinthis Catalogued the great evill and mifchief of a Church being long without a government , and of the not timely fupprelTlng Errors, and wantonne fle of Opinion*, but fuffering them to grow; we may here fee what 'tis to defpife and let alone a fmall Party; a fpark not quenched may burn down a whole hcufe, and a little leaven leaveneth the whole lumpe : So fmall Errors at flrft, and but in a few, /grow to be great and infed many, as one Arrius over fpread :he world, and a few Sectaries five yeers agoe, are grown now :o many thoufands. As a City without walls and Bulwarks ; as i Garden and Vineyard without a hedge and fences jas an Army CL with- , U4 A Catalogue and Difcovery of withouc Difciplins are expofed tofpoil, wafting, and mine > fo is a Church without Ecckfiafticall government. We in this may be a warning to all other Churches and Nations, and are indeed a Beacon on fire upon a Hill, to teach all to take heed ©f leaving a Church deftitute of Ecclefiafticall government, and of taking away one before they fettle another : I am con- fident that if the Parliament had forefeen and known what now they do,whata flood of damnable herefre$,errors, blafphemies and pra&ifes are come in upon us fince we have been without Church government, they would not have let this Church been fo long without one, but would have prepared and provided to have fet up a new when tRey took down the old : But it may be it will be faeid that the want of Church government is not the caufeofall thefe errors and roifcarriagec,but the true caufc is the imermiffion of the civiil Sword, and thafc Church government if it were fpeedily fetled,as is defired3 would not,nor cannot remedy thefe evils; 'tis onely theMagi- ftrates proceeding againft them by lawes and punifhments, and the Minifters preaching againft them which are likely to doe it; but as for Church Difcipline,that would neither pre- vent nor redreile things, and this I finde in Mr. Colemam Bro- therly Examination re-examined^ page 10. and in the Vi*- Mcation of four ferious ^ue ft: ions concerning Excommunication mi Sufpwfim, page 58, 5 9. (an Author whom I greatly love and honour for his former furTering?, and for his parts of lear- ning and piety,) and this is a great Objection in the mindes and mouthesof many3efpecislly thofe who are for the Era- ftian way : Unto which Objection I have provided a large, full and >fatis factory Anfwerf as I conceive) wherein I (hall make good thofe things : That the want of Ecclefiafticall go- vernment is the great caufe of our Herefies, Schifmes, Con* fufions • and that till that be feded, thefe Evils will not be; remedied ; that Ecclefiafticail Governement without ci- viil backing it, when 'tis in power and efficacy in its Gaffes, Synods, tAflemblies , hath both prevented and re- medied thofe mifchiefes, and that the Civiil Government wkhoiK Ecclefiaftical will never heal nor redreffc thern,witk " divers many Err ours of the Sectaries. i \ 5 •» — ■ , clivers other particalars • but becaufe I have already exceeded that number of fheetsl intended, and therefore may not in- large much, and yee this Objection muft be fpoken to fully, ( which I cannot doe in a few lines,) I will therefore in two or three fheets by it felfe, (hortly within a few weekes C God permitting and afllfting ) give the Reader an Anfwer to this Objection, and (hew a greater nectffity and benefit of Ecdefiafticall government then aiany in thefe times imagine. 2. Corel. Hence then we may fee it is more then time to fettle the government and difciplineof the Church, and that fully and effectually, the civill Magistrate alfo concurring and backing it with his civill power, lead many more damnable herefies come in upon us, and we be deftroyed by rents and divifions ; the errors mentioned in this Catalogue, befide many others not here named, cry aloud and call for a fpeedy fetling of Church government, and to put fome flop to the wilde beads that come in to devour &lay all wafte;and though many foy,The M^ Saltm what will not men fall into, what will they not preach and do if govern- mem be not quickly fetled ? There had need be a Ne ultra fet up ; fome among us are fallen to horrid ftrange waves, come already to deny the Scriptures, the Trinity, the Di- vinity of Chrift , the Immortality of the Soule, hell, heaven, yea to fcoffe at Scriptures, and is it not time to put a ftop then ? Some yeers agoe Minifters who preached before the Parlia- ment complained of the Church not being fetled,and then faid it Q^2 was 1 1 6 i~d Catalogue and Difcovery of j^ m . , * was high time to build the houfe of God, for which Sermons they have had thanks given them, and were ordered to print them. The Parliament fome yeers agoe thought it time the Go- vernment of the Church fhould be fpeedUy fetled,as is evident by their Orders and Declarations in Prinr, February 16. 1643. (now two yeers pift wanting but three weeks, the Parliament fpeakes thus, That confidering the many urgent reasons of having '2V. B, the government of the Church fpeedily fetled, the Lsrds defirethe Houfe of Commons to joyne With them in fending to the Affemb/y, to haflenand fpeed their advice to the Houfes of Parliament, for the fetling of M things that concerne theprefent TUfciplineofthe Church. April 9. 1642. The Lords and (Commons doe declare, That they intend a due and necefary Reformation of the govern- ment and Liturgie of the Church and for the better effeiling thereof \ fpeedily to have a confutation With godly and learned Divines. And I might quote divers paflages out of Declara- tions, and Tranfa&ions, between both the Kingdomes of Eng- land and Scotland in reference to Church government, wher- in three yeers agoe they mutually exprefle their great fenfe of the want of perfecting and enjoying a Reformation in Church government : But I will onely name one, which is in a reply of the Lords and Commons to the Brotherly Anfwer which the generall Aflfembly of Scotland made unto a Declaration for- merly fens unto them from the Parliament. The words are thefe, And according to our former declaration of the feventh of Februiry , Our purpofe U toconfult "tilth godly and learned Di- vines, that We may not onely remove this, but fettle fuch a g§- vemment as may bemofl agreeable to Gods holy Word; mofk apt to procure and conferve the peace of the Church at home, and happy union With the Church of Scotland, and other Reformed Churches abroad, and to eftablifb the fame by a LaW, Which We intend to frame for that purpofe, to be prefented to his Mayfly for hU Roy all Ajfent. And in the mean time humbly to befeech his Mayfly that a BUI for the Affembly may be paffed in time convenient, for the meeting to be by the fifth of November next, (& the miferable efiate of 'the (fhnrch and Kingdme not being able ^0 endure any longer delay, An< many Errours of the Sectaries. i j j And without all doubr,i£ before the Affembiy metythe mtferable eft ate of this Church & Kingdom ftas not able to endure any longer delay, and thii two yeers agoe there were many urgent 'Fgajons of having the government of the Church fpeedily fetled, then now k is high time the Church and government were fetled, the condition of this Church being feven times more miferable now, then when thofe Declarations were put forth, moft of the Rarfull hercfies, biafphemies, and pra&ifes being broached and a&edfirtce, and many of them not fo much as whifpered before ; And as concerning the fpeedy fettling of the Church Govern- ment , let ail whom it concerns confider well of this Dilemma - either we (hall have a Church Government, or not; either the eftablifhing of the Presbyterial Government is intended,or not; if it be not inrended to fettle it at all , then to fpeak only of un- feafonablentfle and haftinefTe , it is but a meer fhifc and co- lour, then let it be declared fo , let it be told us 'there (hall be no Church Government fettled ; but if it be really intended,and faid Church Government muft be and ftiali be fettled half a SimnfMfa veer or a twelve moneth hence ; then why not now prefently ? K^P^uav^o if it be unfeafonable now , if this an unfit time, will it not be as gj* Xt unfeafonable , as unfit, half ayeer hence? when can we think Epifcop?.' Aug. the Sectaries and thofe who oppofe the prefent fettling , will in vita Augult. judge it feafonable ? do not delates in all good things hinder and make men more unfit ? if we be unfit now , (hall we not be if a few yeers permitfion and connivance without exemplary rvftrain: hath had fuch efFecTs and fruits among us , what would one 20 yeers Toleration of all Religions and Confciences emcTcd by a Law do f if in this time wherein the Sectaries have been probario- ners upon the trial of their good behaviour under hope of a formal Toleration,according as they carried themfelves (which without ail doubt hath fomewhat kept them in) they have vented fo many Errors, Herefies, &c. what will they not fall to , when they are for themfelves , and in the pofTciTion of a Toleration? This Land is become already in many places a Chaos , a Habel, another Amfterdxm , yea, worfe; we are beyond that , and in the highway to Munfter ( if God prevent it not ) but if a general Toleration (hou'd be granted fo much written and flood for, England would quick- ly become a Sedom, an £gypt> Babylon^ yea, worfe then all thefe : Certainly, as it would be t^emoft provoking fin againft God that ever Parliament was guilty of in this Kingdome, like to that of Jcrofoam, zo cut it off and to deftroy it from the face ©f the earth; fo it would prove the caufe and iountain of all kind of damnable hercfies and blafphemies, loofeand ungod- ly pracTifes, bitter and unnatural divifions in families and Churches ; it would deftroy all Religion and as ^olutheifme a- mong the Heathen brought in Atheifme, fo would many Re- ligions bring in none among us ; let but the Reader well re- view many Err ours of the Setfaries. m view and confider of all the Hertfies, blafphemies, p ract ifes laid down in this Book, all broached and a&ed in England within thefe four laft yeers,yea more efpecially within this hit yeer ; and if one man hath obferved and gathered fo much what Armies of blafphemies and monftrous hercfies are there thinkewe, if all that have been vented were drawn into one Sjnopjjs ? Ex ungue leonem, wc may guefle by a part at the whole, and yet all thefe would be as nothing to wlut a legale Toleration within a few yeers would bring forth : Error,if way be given to it, knowes no bounds, it is bottomkfle, no man could fay how farre England would goe, but like Africa it would be bringing forth Monfters every day; a Toleration, like Opportunity, would make many Hereticks,caufe many to broach and fall to that which they never meant; God appointed go- vernment both Eccclefiaftical and Civil to reftrain mens nature and wantonnefle,as knowing what men would fall to,that there be no end of his follies and madnes if tolerated. Should any man feven yeers ago have faid that of many in England ,(whicft now all men fee ) that many of the ProfeiTors and people in England (hall be Arrians, Anti-trinitai ians, Anti-Scripturifts, nay blafpheme, deride the Scriptures , give over all prayer, hearing Sermons, and other holy duties, be for Toleration of all Religions, Poperie,Blafphemie, Athdfme,it would have bin laid, It cannot be ; and the perfons who now are fallen , would have faid as Haz*el, Are tye dogs that "toe Jhonld doe fuck things } and yet we fee it is fo ; and what may we thanke for this, but liberty, impunity, and want of government ? wc have the plague of Egypt upon us, frogs out of the bottornleffe pit covering our land, comtning into ourHoufes, Bed-cham- bers , Beds , Churches ; a man can hardly come into any place, but fome creaking frog or other will be commingup upon him, A Toleration is the grand defigne of the Devil, his Mafter- peece and chiefe Engine he works by at this time to uphold his tottering Kingdome ; it is the moft compendious, ready, fure way to deftroy all Religion, lay all wafte, and bring in all cvill i k is a moft tranfeendent, catholique, and fundamcntall R evili 122 \yi Catalogue and Difcovery of Within the fpace of five ©r fixe dayes shere came out £ve Bookes shat I faw, either wholly on in part pleading for Toleration, toleration ju- tified. •Additional! Reafons to the Minifteriall Letter. Bloody Te- aent^Preface. Divine obfer- yations on the Minifters Let- ter. Mr.Burrougkes Sermon before iheHoufe of Peers. Mr. Saltmarjb Smoke in the Terrple. evill, for this Kingdom of any that can be imagined : As ori- ginal! iin is the moft fundamentall fin, all fin ; having the feed and fpawn of ail in it : So a Toleration hath all errors in it, and all evils, it isagainft the whole ftreame and current of Scripture both in the Old and New Teftament, both in matters of Faith and manners, both generail and particular commands* it overthrows all relations, both Political!, Ecclefiafticall, and Oeconomicall ; and whereas other evils, whether errors of judgement or pracTife, be but againft fome one or few places of Scripture or relation, this is againft all,this is the Abaddon, Apolljon , the deftroyer of all religion, the Abomination of Defolation and Aftonifliment , the Ltbertie of Perdition (as tAuftine calls it) and therefore the Devil foUows it night and day, working mightily in many by writing Books for it, and other waves, all the Devils in Hell and their Inftruments being at work to promote a Toleration. There have been more Books writ, Sermons preached,words fpoken, befides plottings and actings for a Toleration, within thefe foure laft yeers, then for all other things. Every day now brings forth Books for a Toleration. The Devil for fome thou- sands of yeers had not found out this Engine, nor made ufe of it to fupport his Kingdome; we fhall never read of it in the Old Teftamenr, nor finde it pleaded by the falfe Prophets and Idolaters againft thofe ]Kings that puniftied them for their dreams and falfe propliecies/aying, It is our confciences, and men ought not to be troubled for their confciences, nay the greateft' patrons of Liberty of Confcience do confefle, it was not then; men might be punifhed under the Old Teftament by the Civill Magiftrate for their falfe worships and Doctrines; but it is the will and command of God fince the coming of his Son the Lordlefus, a permiffion of the moft Paganifti 3 IewifhjTutkiftior Antichriftian confciences and wodhips be granted to all men in all Natioas and Countriesjbut upon the corning of Chrift in tfie flefli, that the lying Oracles were djffolvcd, and thatvoke heard that the great God Pan was- dfcad, arid' the Devill finding his- Kingdom weakned in the ■d hythe f al! of tfi ofe ■ Oracle?, and bffora any beingcan-. ver- many Erroms of the Sectaries. % 2 j verted to the faith of Chrift by the Apofties,and daily likely to bee more and more ; the Devili then beftirrcd himfelf, and fet pretended Liberty of Confcience on foot, after the experience of fome thoufands of yeers in the world, as the moft power- fall and likely means to recover and ftrengthen his Kingdom, and hath erer fin ce from time to time made ufe of this Engine, efpecially in times of Reformation and places where he is a cafting out, ufing this pretence of Liberty of Confcience, as a meanes either to keep his old poffeflion, or being caft out to enter in again. The firft time we read of Sathans making ufe of this plea of Liberty, in his Inftruments and Minifters,k ia i Pet. 2. 1 p. where the Apoftle (hewes the falfe Teachers that brought in damnable herefies, did tell them of liberty, VekiU they fromife them liberty, and Rev.2. 14, 15, 29. where fome learned interpreters upon that place fliew, .that le^abel and thofe other falfe Teachers did under pretence of Chriftian li- bertic,fince Chrifts coming and under the Gofpel,(hew them a lawfulnes of community of wives,and of eating things facrificed to Idols, and ever (ince in feverall ages of the Church, the Devil hath improved ittmore and more as he hath feen his ad- vantages and the times backing it : He ftrongly kt it on foot in the primitive times by the Donatiftsand other Hereticks, and in latter ages by the Anabaptifts, Vamilifts, Arminians, So- cinians, and in our dayes by all the Sectaries, now beftirring himfelf to keep a footing in this Kingdom by Toleration,yea being wroth at his cafting out in Popery , Superflition, Prelacy, heftrives and endeavours by this pretended Liberty of Confci- ence, to enter in with feven other fpirits more wicked then before3and to dwel here, and to make the laft eftate of England worfe then the firft. And therefore I hope the Parliament, Af- fembly^MinifterSjCity, and the whole Kingdome confidering the evilfof a Toleration will cry it down, and abominate the very though?: of it. And truly when I read over and confider feverall paflages in many of the Parliament Remonft ranees, Declarations, Meffages, Ordinances, Proteftation, yea joynt Declaration and Covenant of bothKingdomes made to the moft high God, the King, the Kingdom of Scotland, the fubjecTs of R 2 England 124 A Catalogue and Difcoverfof England, the Reformed Churches,yea, and to the whole world for the prefervation of the Reformed Proteftant Religion, and that not onely againft Papifts, Popery, but againft St&aries, fchifme,and all Herefies,and that the principall and main ground of all this war on the Parliaments part,hath bin the fecuring and preferring the Reformed Religion, profeffed and maintained in theReformed Churches,(all which particulars faithfully tran- fcribed out of the Retnonft ranees, Declarations, &c. I fhall fet down in a Tractate againft Toleration, which I intend fpeedily to fet forth) 1 can never beleeve the Parliament will ever grant a Toleration, or hearken to petitions of that nature, and that their pious Refolutions may be the more confirmed and ftrengthned againft all the fpecious pretences and plaufi- ble Reafons brought by the SeUaries for a Toleration , I (hall with all fpeedprefent the Honourable Houfes with cer- tain confiderations Theologicall and Prudentiall againft a To- leration, with an anfwer to all the moft plaufible and pradi- call Reafons given by the Sectaries; in the mean time I leave this fad confideration againft Toleration to be ferioufly thought upon, what a Toleration will bring forth, when as a conni- vance hath occasioned fo many errors , herefies , and blas- phemies as are contained in this Catalogue. 4. Coral. Hence all men may fee as in a clear glaife what In- dependency is, that hath brought forth in a few yeers in Eng- land fuch monfters of Errors as are named in this Catalogue* moft of theperfons who vented thefe Opinions, and are fallen to be Anabaptifts,Seekers,Arrians, yea, Anti-fcripturifts,being within thefe 5. or 6. yeers Independents, and of the Church way. The tree is knefton by the fruit, and a good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit JlVlMq we may judge of the Independent way by thefe fruits,and obferve how far Independents have proceeded, and what degrees they have taken, even fer faltuw in a fhort time ; We may by this Catalogue fee the truth of this fpoken of by many Divines both Fathers and Modern writers, that Schifme makes way to Herefie , and feparation from the Church to feparation from the head, men falling to thar, not Uldmg the head, Collofslans 2. io. O the fad and wofull effects many Erroursofthe Seffaries. 125 cffccls of Independency, as in all places where everTt hath bin fee up, as Tiey-Sngland) Roterdam, Amflerdam> Iturmudoes; Co m England, where within thefefour yeers it hath produced among perfons accounted religious, more damnable herefies, ftrange opinions, fearfull divifions, ioofenefleoflife and man- ners, then ever have been in all the Reformed Churches of the Presbyteriall way above fourefcore yeers. Independen- cy in England Is the mother, nurfe, and Patronefle of all o- ther errors; they are all her Daughters, and may rife up and call her mother; The la ft National! Synod holden in France declares, That the SeU of Independents of ens a gate to all kinde Nationall Sy»~ 5/ Singularities and Extravagancies ', taking aft ay all weaves of nod at Qbaw- any remedy to the evil.lt was the faying oi a great Seelary, that *™nyA*' i6446 Independency is the door to let into Anabaptifme, and Ana- ®C6&nb'*$> baptifme was the door to let into the Truth, meaning that from thence they would come to be Seekers, Perfe&ifts, &c. Inde- pendency and other Sefts are fo neer of blood, that a man may for the moft part without any great Solecifme fay, Indepen- dency is all Seftarifme , and all Se&arifme is Independency; Independents turn Anabaptifts , Seekers , &c. and Sectaries turn Independents j we have now few Independents (ftriclly fo called) but Independents, Antinomians, Independent Anabap- tifts, feekers, &c. or rather men made up of all thefe, Indepen- dency, Antinomianifme,Brownifme, Anabaptifme,Libertihifrne, fo that Independency is become a compound of many Er- rors, and if Independency could once get a Toleration , wee fhould then fee it fpeake out to purpofe. And as Independen- cy is in this fenfe all error, being the great caufe of them, fo many errors are for Independency, that is, the Love of Errors caufes many to become Independents, wanton witted men who are confeious to themfelves of (ingularities and novelties, which they feare will not be tolerated in a communion and confociation, neither can they make them good before a Synod, cut of fondttefle to their opinions doe affeel: fuch a way which may exempt them from all danger of cenfure, and fo many Errors turne to Independency as being a way tofave them harmleffe, and Independency fall* to all kind of Ercors, and 126 A Catalogue and Difcovery of and from one to another , and that becaufe it declines the re- medy and means God hath appointed for preferving from er- ror?. And as Independency is the mother and original of other feels j fo tis the nurfe and patroneffe that nurfes and fafegaurds them ; how do all errours take fan&uary in In- dependency, fly thither and are iafe, as the Chickens under the wings of the Hen ; all Sectaries pleading they arelndepen- N* £* asconitintly op- ipolirg all wayes and meanes propounded for fupprefling of ithem, being content rather that Gods glory, name , and truth fhould fuft'er, thcufands of fouls perifh, and all Religion be ru- ined, by all kinde of abominable blafphemies, damnable here- fies, wicked pra&ifes, then that their owne intends and way fhould be in the leaft kinde prejudiced ; O had there been a- jny true zeale in them to the glory of God,or love of truth, bind the foulcs of people , they could not have endured to have feen all thefe evils, but would rather have hazarded the periling of themfelves and their Independent way, then to have been upheld with the difhonour of God, the lofle of S his 130 A Catalogue and Dif cover j of histruth,and fo many other mifchiefsas they have been the caufe of; and therefore though the Independents wipe their mouthes with the Harlot in the Proverbs, and fay, They have done no wiekedneiTe ,• and with Pilate waih their hands of all our Errors , Blafphemies , &c. Yet let them know they hare been guilty of the loiTe of the opportunity of & through lleformation,which we might have had forne yeers agoe, and of all the evils that have come in upon us like a flood fincejand I am confident(without great repentance)God will require it at their hands; and however now whilft they have the applaufe of the people, the favour of many great ones, getting places of honour, profit, Aiming and waxing fat, they are not fenlible ; yet when they (hall come to die and are going into another world, thefe things may trouble them, and be fet in order be- fore them. And that the Independents may lay it to heart, I can allure them I am not alone of this minde, that they are the caufe, and have rntfch to anfwer for* but others, yea, and their ■ friends thinke fo too ; for proof, I (hail relate the words of a prime Member of the Affembly, (a moderate Learned man, a great Friend of theirs, and if. I fhould name him,themfelves' and all others would fay fo too,) fpoken to me in the hearing of a Member oi the AlTembly,and at other times toothers, yea to fome of the chief Independents themfelves, (as he told me J That they had been the caufe of fo much hurr, that unlelTe God- were the more rnercifuil all would be ruined, and that* the Kingdom had better have given every one of them a hundred thoufand pound a man then they had returned inro irRAnd ther- fotMr. Burroughs and other of hisfellows in (lead of that pray- er in the Epiftle Dedicatory before his late Sermon preached to theHoufe of Peers, Oh Lord the fe archer of the fecrets of hearts, thoti knoVteft not onely our dc fires, but our painfull fine ere •■ endeavours 3&c. may finite upon the thigh and make this prayer, O Lord thou knotyefl andVvemuft needs confejfe, We have hin- dred the Reformation of this Church, and delayed by all meanes poffible the fet ling of the Government, We have fi oft all procee- dings againfi Anabaptifts and other Seflaries, refufing to con- fsnt to fuch Rules and Meanes agreed on by the djfewbly, Which- many Err ours of the Sectaries. 131 Which might &have prevented their growth : We Lord have tal- ked of peace, love, felfe denial , truth $ but "toe have caufeddU viftoni multiplication of err our s , We have fought great things for our felves ; through our means Lord things are come to this fad pap : Oh, What fhall We do> 5. CoralL Hence then from all thefe errours, herefies, &c. broached in England within thefe few yeers , we may learn what an adive,reftleffe,fubtile fpirit the Devil is ) how he com- pares the earth to and fro, tryes all forts of men, watches all opportunities, works allwayes, and makes ufe of all rimes to uphold his Kingdom ; and when he can no longer do things one way, then he will try another • if he be call: out of a King- dom or perfon ac the foredoor , he will come in again at the back ; and when he cannot work any more by one fort of men, then he will by another, coming to Chrift in Peter and in an Angel of light; and though he have received many lofles, yet he will never give out, as tis in that parable iW*M 2.43,44,45. When the unclean fpirit is gone out of a man, he Walks through w r»COi ™M dry places, feekingre ft and fin deth none; then he faith,! Will re- fjf^jji^- turn into my houfe from Whence I came out , and goeth and takcth ^u'm & jn v^ fyith himfelf [even other fpir its more Wicked then him feif, and dm dxmon3 gc~ they enter in and dwell there ; and in Mat. 13. 24. and 25. verfes' ^crk bumani When good feed is foWen in the field, While men flee p the Devil ^mdes^cum WillfoWe tares among the Wheat. (i)Theodoret hath an excellent *Q™m "ccfn% obfervation, that (fon ft amine coming to beEmperour/heSacri- ac proffer 0 flatit fices of the Heathen Gods were by his command put down, and ferri cemeret, Houfes were built for the Worfhip of God, and the Minifters nullomodopati of Chrift were had in great honour and refped , and thofe who Pf^f^ff- 0 dola ac peliifera conplia excogitare cafit} omnefquc fedulo pcrvcliigavit modos quibm earn tarn prxclare ab mivcr- fitatu opifice & moderatore gubernatam penitm evertcret 5 namcum ammadvertcret gevtilium crrorem fuis integumcntis cvolutum , & varias ac multiplices Vamenum fraudes- perfpicue de- prebcufaf , & creaturam a quzm plurimU nulla ampliui dtgiiatam veneration, fed pro ilia crex- nrem laudc & praconiU celebratum > iicirco deinccps nonapertc contra Deum ac fervatorem ?#- flrum bcllum ciere , fed cum homines quofdam nomine quidem Cbnjlianos , re tamen ipfa ambi- tions & inanii gloria fcrvos reperiffet , bis tanquam inftrumentu ad futs veteratortos conaxu& ferficiendos valde idoneis uti cafit. At que iftorum opera complures in veterem induxit crrorem non quod creaturam denuo coli ejficiebat, fed quod ita comparavit ut creator & opifcx mundi in c$Aem enm ereuuu or dine conflftueretur. S 2 ufed 122 c^ Catalogue and Difcovcry of ufed them contumelioufly were threatned to be feverely puni- fhed. So that things being in fuch a condition , the minds of the Chriftians were filled with joy and content , and their enemies withforrow andfadnefle. But the Devil that wicked and envi- ous fpirit , when he Taw the ftate of the Church of God to be fo happy and profperous , he could not endure k; but begins to think upon fubtiie and peftilent Councels , fearching di- ligently all kind of wayes by which he might wholly overthrow ir. For when he perceived that the errour of the Gentiles was discovered, and the many deceits of the Devils cieerly appre- hended, and the Creature by mcfl men accounted no longer worthy of any Worfaip , but the Creator Worshipped and fer- ved in (lead of the Creature -..he did not from that time openly fight againft God and our Saviour, but finding fome men in name Chriihans , though indeed fervants of ambition and vain glory, he began to ufe them as his inftruments very fit to bring abont his deceitful work?. And by their help he brought many into the old errour; not that he did bring them to Worftnp the Creature again , but he fo wrought, that the Creator and Maker. of the World was placed in the fame rank with the Creature : Arrius and his followers denying Chrift to be very God, and-God effentialhv (b) Thcodom. (b) Theodora relates many excellent things of Theoiofim ti|C hiiiUEcclcf.l.^. Efflpepour ^ ftiljng him Admirabilis eft /mperater ) as not on- ^(dTbcldom. ly forbidding the Worshipping of the Heathen Gods and (hut- Ecdef.HijLl. tin§ UP their Temples a? fimftamnt the Great did , but wholly ^x.\6.Vcmm racing them to the gronnd,as his making a Law to fuppreile the mm commit meetings of the HeretickSj as his writing to ValentinUnihz Em- nishiimmigc' perourj rfrc. yet he fhows how in his paflion he committed a mdicuuivi- cruel and wicked fad, and his (c) obfervation upon that, is9 tare nan adcofi- though Thesdofms was fo admirable an Empetour, and deferved rik elyam qui fo muchpraife; yet to efcape all the fnares of that common morbum intern- adverfary of mankind is nat fo eafie ; for he that efcapes one, ^rTkmxvx- as t*rtternP^rancy ^ may betaken and held in the cord of covete- mix ^aqucoir- oufneffe, and if he have the vidory on that, then the Devil hath mitm temMf. another way , eavy may undo him ; and if he overcome envy, ,v«l flm* ibid, then anger may find him out. And to condude, the Devil layes for many Errottrs of the Settaries, i:. for man infinite temptations by which he may bring him to de- ft ruAion , and if one will not, he then tryes another, and he hath the perturbations and diftempersof the body ferving his temptations. ( c^^\%. vil had and ihould have been caft out of England, what frefh t^em, ' footing he hath got again. Oh, many of us when we fawSi- than begin to fall like lightning in the throwingdown of Images, Altars y and many other fuperftitions , in the breaking the po- wer of the Hierarchic, in the putting out of many Idol fcanda- lous .Minifters , expeded a bleiTed time, and made account we (hould now be troubled no more with falfe Doctrines, as Armi- nianifm, &c. with corruptions in Worfhip, with falfe Prophets; we made account the winter was pad and the deluge of herefie, errour was over , and that the time of the Tinging of the Birds was come , and the land iliould be.no more drowned ; but we now fee by this Catalogue and Difcovery, that the Devil hath recovered himfelf, and fct up his Kingdom by other kind of in- ftruments and in another way then heretofore ; and I am con- fident that for the prefene, the Devil hath gained more in the matter of falfe Doctrine , Diforder , Deformation , Anarchy, and Libertinifme, then he loft in the Reformation by putting down of many Popifh Errours , Superfluous Pra&ifes , and Tyrannies : yea,I think it may be faid fafely,that the Devil hath had a more plentiful harveft this laft yeer \n England, then ever in any one yeer fince the Reformation; nay, certainly more damnable Doftrines , Herefies, and Blafpheroies, have been of late vented among us , then in fourfcore yeers before ; fothat we fee in all thefe great changes, how the Devil hath befttrred himfeif, and what improvements he hath made of thefe times,raifing up new inftruments to do his work, and making ufe of the pride, vainglory , coveteoufneffe , ambition, loofneffe, wantonneffe of men 3 to keep Gods Houfe from be- ing 3 134 A Catalogue and Difcovery of ing built, and in the mean time to build up his own with both hands, 6. Coral, Hence then from all thefe Errors, Herefies , &c. we may learn what a weak and deceitful argument that of New Light and New Truth is to commend any way or opini- on by unto men3 and what the New Light of thefe times ( (o much talked of) is: Theres hardly any one of thefe hundred threefcore and fixteen Errors, no,not of the worft among them all, but have been vented and held out under this Argument of New Light, and Difcovery of fomc glorious Truth, nothing being fo common in the mouthes of all the Sectaries for their Opinions as a New Light and New Truth : Thofe two dam- nable Herefies of holding there is but one perfon in the Bi- vine Nature, and that Chrifts Humane Nature is defiled with Originall fin as well as ours, have been prdfed with much heat, as a glorious Difcovery of a New Light, as the Rea- der may finde in the firft printed Letter of this Book; fo that wicked Dodrineofthe Toleration of all Religions,the Devils great Engine, and then which he never invented a wickeder, is called New Light and New Truth, in a Book en- tituled , Myfterious Kingdome difcovered, and fo there is a Book named, A Difcovery of7S(eft Z*g&/,wherein all the Errors and principles of the Old Brownifts way are laid down;and as our Sectaries ufe to Chriften ail their Errors with the name of New Ltght,fohavehereticks and feclaries heretofore.iSVr&w# that blafphemous Heretick called his Herefies by the Name ofTleftitutio Chrifliamfmi'^nd therefore in one word let Chri- ftians fufped: and be afraid of the New Lights and New Truths of thefe times, which in (lead of light are Egyptian darknelTe and biackntffeof darknefle. For my owne part I muft pro- feffe, though I have traded in, and lookt into moll of theo- pinions of thefe times, (as well as fome other men J examining their grounds, that of all the new opinions cryed up thefe five lafl: years for New Light and New Truth,! cannot finde one of them, but either is an old Error long ago condemned, though now revived, or elfe a New Error lately invented ; the Au- Ro», i. $«• thorsofthem being in that Catalogue of S. Paul, Inventer* of evil/ things. 7 . Cord. By one Tuthil printed about two ye«re« ago. manj Errours of the Sectaries. 135 7. Coral. Hence then from ail this difcourfe of theerrours, ©pinions,and practifesof thefe times; we may fee the true reafori and ground of that great growth and increafe of the feftaries a- mong us , and why fo many daily fall to that party and way, and fo few to the Presbyterians ; Namely , becaufe many of the opinions and pra&ifes laid down in this Catalogue, are fo pleafing to fiefti and blood, and fuitable to one or other corrupt principle in mans nature ; whereas Presbyterial Go- vernment , and the Doctrine of the Reformed Churches goes againft the grain ) andcroflfes mens lufts. I might inftance in a hundred of the opinions , befides praftifes mentioned in this Catalogue ; thofe of Antinomianifme, thofe of the power of man by nature to believe, of univerfal grace, of making Rca- fon the ground of Faith, err. and fhow how they anfwer to, and feed the carnal hearts of men , and have fomerhing to fit all mens humours , but I will name only thefe following. 1. That liberty they allow to all forts of men to preach , and exercife their gifts in publick , and to qutftion and object openly againft what their Minifters deliver. 2. That liberty of confeience fastis called) and a Tolerati- on of all opinions, that a man may hold and vent what he pleafe, and may not be troubled by the civil Magistrate. 3. Their declaring againft tithes and certain fetled mainte- nance of Minifters as unlawful, yea, Iewifh and Antichriftbn. 4. Their holding of Popular Government, the power and ex- ercife of Church Government to be in the hands of the people, and not of the officers. 5. Their maintaining of Independency and entirenefle of power in every particular Congregation ; fo that they are not to be fubjeft to Gaffes , Synods, for cenfures and jurifdiftion. 6. The holding thofe loofe opinions, that God loves men as well finning as praying; that Gods Children need not to be troubled for fin, or to mourn, confeffe, pray for pardon of fin. 7* The pleading againft fellowfhipin holy things with any but vifible Saints as unlawful, which carries with it a great ftiew of holinefie and zeal. S. The believing thofe opinions of theperfonalvifibferaign of 1 3 6 A Catalogue and Difcgvery of ofChrift that outward glorious Kingdom which fhail be on earth, unto which and many more opinions there being, added in thefe times the praclifes and allowance of iong hair, all kiade of faftiions in apparrel, libertie of (ports and games hererofore denied, a free and froiick k'nde of living, noc fo ftricl: andprecife as in former rimes, together with great of- fices and places of honour, profir,both military and civill which attend on that way, and Sectaries get upon all occsfions before the Presbyterians, ( it being the ready way now to get great gifts, offices, or forne place to turn Se&arie ) it is no wonder that fo many fall to be Se&arifts andSeparatiit, ; any man who hath but half an eye may fee how each of thefe opinions hath forriething in them to feed fome corrupt principle or other in man, as either ambition and defire of rule, or fpintuall pride to (hew a mans gifts, or covetoufnes,or licentioufneffe,or blinde z?ale, or unftablenes of Spirit, &c. And his may fully fatisfie ai5y rationall man of the falfeneffe of that ground brought to prove their way is ©f God, and there is a hand ot God with them that fo many of ail forts fall to it, who considers that in the way of Se&arifme there is both winde and tide , lufts within, of pride, love of liberty, coveteoufntn%ambition, &c. and without, the preferments and favour of the times $ hence hundreds of proud, ambitious, covetous loofe men fide with them, and profetTe to be for that way rather then Presby- tery, and it no way comes from the almighty power of God backing his truth, and carrying on his own work againft all oppodcioas and difficukiesjfor beiides that Satan doth not (land at their right-hand to refill: them, but furthers them all wayes, they are in the warm Sun, having the South-wind blowing upon them, and golden fhowers of hundreds fal- ling into their laps, all wh ch principles wirhin and favours from withour,have brought up and therifhed thefe weeds, and cau- (ed them toincreafe from a few to an Armyjand on the other hand, from thefe opinions, praclifes, and lufts fo fuitable to the corrupt hearts of men, becaufe the Presbyteriall governmeftt oppofes them, it comes to pafle that the Orthodox Minifters of this Kingdom have fo hard a taske, and are fo reproached, deferred, many Err ours eft he Sectaries. 137 defertcd,as touching the Popes crown and the Monks belly, the pride, covetoufnttTe, licen;ioufncfle of men. 8. Cora/. Here is then an Apologie and Iuftification fufS- cientinthe fight of the world for thofe Minifters and peo- ple, who are zealous for fetling Religion and cry our for Go- vernment, who preach, petition, fpeak often one to another of thefe thing?; whoioever doth but read and confider this Cata- logue of Errors, Herefies, Blafphemies,Praflifes,together with the Letters and the Narration of ftories cannot but fay there is great reafon of petitioning again and again,of crying aloud and fparing nor, and of ftirring up one another to ufe all means within our callings and places to put fomeftop to thefe great and growing eviisjthe truth of thefe things well corfidered may plead an excufe and take crYthe imputations of haftinefife, impatiency, unmannerlinefle, precipitancy caft upon fome Mi- nifters and people,and juftifie they have done nothing but what was neceffary : It is an excellent faying of Luther ■, tis matter of praife for a man to bear patiently and modeftly the names of all crimes caft upon himfelf; but to allow the fpoilirg of the name of Chriftian, the robbing of the glory of God, the denying of Chrift}znA not rather to cry againft and gainfay with all a mans might even unto blood dtferves an Anathema. Is it not high time to fpeak and fpeak again, when things are 0mnium^m^ come to this pailc with us, as that all Religion in fo high man- mjeac ^ ^ ner is corrupted and corrupting, thoufands of poor fouls dai- enter tulijfe ly perilling, and the wrath of God ready to fall upon us for im e(io : At all thefe things. /Win Gal. 2. 5. would not give place by folium nominis [ubyftion no not. for an honrey that the truth of tJoe Gofp el might Cbriftimiyn- continue, and in Gal. 1. 7, 8, 0. Paul fpeaks twice of troublers p"/wJ Tcutl- and pervertersoftheGofpel, though an Angel from heaven 6nm cbrifii or any man, let them be accurfed. It is ftoried in fudges 18. agnevijfe m nott 2 3,24.that the children of Dan faying unto Micah>PVhat aileth $otim *# Now if Micah was fo sffe&ed at LuthciHis, the taking away of his falfc gods which he made,theEphod, T Teraphim, 138 o^ Catalogue and Difcovery of Teraphim,graven image?and the Prieft that he judged it an un- reafonable thing, they ftiould fay, What aileth thee ?How may Miniftcrs and others in our times anfwer theSe&aries and luke- warm perfons that fay,what ail you,what ado do you keep,can- noc you let the Parliament alone, leave them to take their own time and leafure, but you muft petition them and preach, and keep aftir, talking of Herefies,Schifmes, &c. Our God and all Religion is taking away, and how can we be filent and content? The Scriptures are denied to be the Word of God, and blafphemed;the do&rine of the Trinity is called a Tradition of Rome, a fi&ion ; the Godhead of Chrift is oppc- fed,and his humane nature is made to be defiled with original! fin as well as other mens, the Holy Ghoft is fcoffed ar, the Morall Law is taken away, yea Gofpel, Miniftery, Church* Faiths Sacraments, finging of Pfalms, prayers are overthrown, as holding there fare none on earth,and what have we more, and what is this that the Sectaries fay unto us,Whataile ye > Looke wnat Efiher faith* Efiher 8. 6,For hefto can I endure to fee the evill that Jball come unto my people, or hoVo can I en- dure to fee the deftruttion of my kindred } fo may Minifters and Ghriftians now fay, how can they endure to fee that deftru* &ion that comes to the fouls of men, the great difhonour of God, the treading down of truth, and thekazard of ruine to thefe three Kingdomes > 1 Sam, 4. 20, 21, 22. Fhinehas wife when a fon was born to her, and the women bid her not fear, for thou haft born a fon, (he anfwered nor, neither did flie re- gard it, but named the childe Ichabfid faying, the glory u depar- ted from XfraelyfortheArkeofGod is taken* Iohn 20. Mary Magdalen miffing of Chrift5 came running to Peter and lohn faying unto thtm^They have taken afttay the Lord, and ftee flood weeping and looking for him, and being asked by the Angels why {he wept : Shee faith unto them, Becaufe they have taken aWay my Lordy and I fyioVo not Where they have laid him. And have not we great caufe in the midft of all outward mer- cies and deliverances that are born unto us, to be troubled and cry out, The glory is departed from Ifrael, the Arke of God is taken ; and to weep and mourn with Mary, faying to thofe -*• thas many Err ours of the Sectaries. 139 thataskeuswhy weep ye, Becaufe they have taken away our Lord, and to come running to the Parliament faying to them, the Sectaries have taken away the Lord ? And truly when I confider that dreadful condition of things through the abound- * * was infer- ing of fchifme5herefie,biafphemie, diforder, and all kinde ofj^ f°r$ men have done much hurt this way, and like Peter have drawn Barnabas after them, and by theif earned prefling of Accommodations, Tolerations and other vvayes of compliance, have undone us : As in the Biftiops dayes there were fome Divines leaning that way (though otherwife orthodox and good men in themfelves dif- liking the innovations and waves of thofe times ) yet would notfpeak, or not fpeak out againft thofe evils, nay, would per- fwade others againft appearing, faying, Oh take heed you will do i42 Irettm Voly- tarpum dieit, Epiji* ad F/«- riuutn, cum hcmicA vcrbx ferte andijfct txchmarefdi- tum, o bone Vtm in qua me tempera referva- ftiutiftapati- ar3atqueex eoloco quofcdem velft&nsei Audijfet, illico A Catalogue and Difccvery of do no good ; fo have we alfo fome Minifters (whom otherwife I love and honour , and judge no otherwife of them then of men in a temptation) that are State Divines who converting with fome great men having their countenance and favour, know what will pleafe, and what will difpieafe, and thereupon are loth to offend or lofc any fide , but keep fair with all , by which means fefts and fchifms have grown upon us : Oh/tis want of courage, fpeakingout, declaring fully for one fide againft the fe£ts that hath undone us ; things could never have come to that paffe they are , but the Authors and Abetters would have been aftiamed of them , if our leading men had fpoken out,and been fo zealous as they ought to have been.Oh, when 1 read and confider both in Scriptures and in Ecclefiafti- cal Hiftories , that holy zeal and indignation that was in the Apoftles, Pa»l> Peter, and lude , and in the Paftors of the Pri- mitive Churches » againft fchifmaticks and Hereticks the trou- bles of the Church , and fee what coldneffe, indifferency, fi- lence, compliance, converfe is in our times with fe&aries, I am ready to think that all zeal and love of truth, hath left the earth , and that there's none valiant for the truth ; well, this neutrality and indifferency aredeteftable and againft the Covenant as well as fchifm, and herefie , and I conclude this Corallary with that exhortation in the 3. Revel. Be zealous therefore and repent , leaft becaufe they are lukftoarm^Cjod [me them out ofhu mouth, 11. C§raL Hence then from the confederation of all the Er- rours, Herefies, Blafphemies, Diforders , we may fee in what a fad and dangerous condition we are in at prefent ; and into what perilous times we are fallen. Tis Storied of Polycarpns, that when at any time he had heard heretical words he was wont to cry out , O good God into what times haft thou refervedme, that I (houldfuffer fuch things! and forthwith he would fly from that place where either fitting or {landing he heard thofe words. But how may we cry out of our time (upon the reading of this Book,) wherein fo many damnable herefies, and blafpheraies are vented, we may fay the Lord pity VWH'EngUtui and poor London where fuch things are ; we may many Err ours of the Sectaries. 14$ may cry out to God as the Pfalmift InPfalm. 70. 1. O God, 1^.5.30,51. the Heathen are come into thine inheritance , thy holy Temfle have they defiled , they have Uidlerufalem on heap ; and take up that complaint of Jeremy , Aftonderfetl and horrible thing id committed in the land, The Frophets prophefie faljly , and the Priefts hear rule by their means , and my people love to have it foy and What Kill ye do in the end thereof? The Apoftle Pawl iTim.^, fpeaks of perillous timss, and that which makes the times peril- lous, is when there are men having a form of godlineflk, Deny- ing the poWer thereof Vv hie h creep into honfes , and lead captive fiUy Women laden With (ins, men of corrupt mindes, reprobate con- cerning the Faith, refifting the truth. Look^ai God in the eight of Ezekiel, fhoVced Ezekiel great abominations , and bid him turn yet again,and he fhould fee greater abominarions,and yet after that faid, turn thee yet again and thou fruit fee greater abomi- nations ; and the third time faid, O Son of man turn thee yec again and thou Ilia It fee greater abominations then thefe : fo in this Catalogue the Reader may fee great errours, and yet e^. 8.9,13. may turn himfelf again and behold greater , namely, damna- 15. ble hereiies , and yet turn himfelf again and read horrid blas- phemies, and a third time and read horrible diforders, confu- fions,ftrangepra<5tifes, not only againft the light of Scripture but nature ; as in womens preaching , in dealing away mens wives, children,frotn husbands , parents , in baptizing women naked in the prefence and fight of men, &c. O we in thefe four laft yeers have over pafled the deeds of the Prelates and juftified the Biiliops , in whofe time never fo many nor fo great errours were heard of, much leffe fuch blafphemies or confufions , we have worfe things among us then ever were in all the Bifliops dayes, more corrupt Do&rines and unheard of pra&ifes then in 80 yeers before ; thefe monfters of denying the Scriptures to be the Word of God, of denying the Trinity and the Divinity of Chrift , the immortality of the foul, the refurre&ion of the body, Hell and Heaven , the pleading for a free and open Toleration of all Religions -, yea, of blafphe- my, denying the Scriptures, and of a Deity,with more of this kinde were not known in their dayes* I amf perfwaded that if feven 1 44 d Catalogue And Difcovcry of fcven yeer ago the Bifliops and their Chaplains had but prea- ched, printed, licenced, difperfed up and down in City and Country openly , a quarter of thefe errours, herefies, blaf- phemies , which have been all thefe waves vented by the fe&aries , the people would have rifen *p and ftoned them and puld down their houfes , and forced them to forbear fuch Doctrines : O what a do did Minifters and people keep at the coming in of fomePopifa innovations, at the preaching, prin- ting but of fome paflages tending towards Arminianifm and PoperyPbut when fome flat points of Popery and Arminianifm were printed with licenfe, and preached in fome publike pla- ces, how did they that feared the Lord fpeak often one to ano- ther, keepFafts in private, fpeak againft the Bifliops and their Chaplains, talk of nothing but leaving the Land > and yet row we have grofTer and worfe Arminianifm by far , as is evi- dent by fome of the errours laid down in this Catalogue ; yea, the fedtaries are come to points of Popery , and pra&ifes of Popery as the Reader may find related in this Book, as to hold thofe Words of Chrift, this is my Body muft beunder- ftood literally, as denying the preaching of the Word and ad- miniftration of the Sacraments to be Notes of the vifible Church , as bringing in anointing with oyl for fick perfons, as the laying on of hands to give the gifts of the Holy Ghoft, and not only to fmaller matters of Popery , but unto thegreateft andhigheft, as denying the perfection and fufficiency of the Scriptures, and pleading for fome men to be infallible and to have infallible gifts, that muft refolve controverfies of Faith, which are the great pillars of Popery , and foundations of all their o t her errours (a s learned men know) O how is the fcene changed within thefe few yeer?, thofe Doctrines of Arminian- ifm and Popery which in Epifcopal men we cryed out fo of,and counted zPiaculum that held in our Church,and were made the great ground of feparation from the Church, the fame points now more grofle (for they by diftin&ions refined and qualified thofe opinions) are delivered and received with great applaufe and the Preachers of them cryed up and preferd before the moft Orthodox Minifters : O how are the times changed, per- fons many Err ours of the Sentries. 1 4 J fons profefllng Religion in EngUndwerc wont to look upon thefe two things as molt hacefull. Ficft, The corruption of the Doclrlne of Religion. Secondly, a Teieration of all Religions, and in the worft times we could not endure thefe thing? : O the crying out that was in the former times againft Arminianifme, Popery, Socinianifkie, Toleration of all Religion, but now, O the cry- ing up of Liberty of Confcience for all thefe, and the pleading that errors of the minde are not fo dangerous as pracl:ifci!:hac Arrians who live honeftly may be faved ; yea,alf men and all creatures fhall be hve& at lad 1 Who ever thought feven yeers ago he faould have lived to have heard or feen fuch things preached and printed in England ; all men then would have cryed cur of fuch perfons, Afray Kith them, A'Xay ^iththem ; Much leffe to live to fee fuch perfons countenanced, fpoken for; brought otfall trouble, yea, and prefer'd; if fome ofthofe godly Minifters who were famous in their time (hould rife out of their graves and come now among us, as Mr. Perkins ,Green- bam^Hilder/hamy Dr.Prefton>Vr. Sibs &c. they would wonder I to fee things come to this paiTe in England, and to meet with I fuch Books for Toleration of all Religions, and Books in de- I fence of Arminian, Anrinomian Errors; what would they thinke when vhey fhould meet witn fuch Minifters and Chri- jftkns whom they judged godly and found, now to plead for a (Liberty of all confidences, there to meet with one of their ac- quaintance turned Anabaptift, another turned Seeker, a third Ifamilift, a fourth an Anci-fcripturift: O what ado did we keep E England many yeers ago, about lac^son, Montague, Crfens >oks and fucb like ! and now we make nothing of worfe Ar- imanifme, and far greater Errors, the points complained of in Do&or 7*^00, Biftiop Montague &c. where harmkflc vholefome Errors, ( if any Errors could be harmlefle and wholfome )in comparifon of many Errors in this Catalogue, -enainly if Mahomet were now alive among us, he would oe a gallant fellow in thefe times, and be in great requeft for lis Revelations and New-Light; Yea, we are fallen to that ffoadneffe and folly ,that I am perfwaded if the Devil came vi- V fibly 146 d Catalogue and Difc every of fibiy among many, and held out Independency and Liberty of Confidence, and fihould preach never fuch falfe Do&rines, as that there were no Devils, no Hell, no (in at all, but thefe were Only mens imaginations,\vithfeverall o'her DocTrines, ho would be cryed up, followed,admfredjand if it (hould hap- pen he were complained of and qutftjoncd by fome Presby- terians ( for to be fure St claries would not ) he would tave fome or other to fpeak for him, and helpe to bring him eff; 3iid that which irukes the condition of England fo fad in re- gard of Errors, Herefies, &c. are thefe .following circumfhn- ces that accompany them, and are to be found among us. i.Thitthey are in a time of Reformation when we pro- fefL Reformation, and calling out of all corruptions in Do- ctrine and Woifliip. 2. That they are among us, and grow up after a fo- lemne Covenant and oath to extirpate Herefie, Schifme, and whatfoever is againft found Do&rine,fo that our Errors Herefie?,Schtfmes are per juredHerefies and perjured Schifmes, 3. That thefe are rifen, increafed, raigne, and prevail fo far under a Parliament fitting,not under the Bi(hops,corrup: Cler- gy, Court party, but under a Parliament .- Parliaments when Errors in Doctrine have come in upon our Church in their vacancy were our great Remedies to remonftrate againft, pu- nifb, fuppreffe them, that they never rife nor grew during Parliaments fitting, but kept them in awe, and was a rod over them, how were Bifhop Montague^ Cofens, Jackson, and their Books queftioned by former Parliaments, and what a famous Remonftrance was made by theHoufe of Commons to the FtieMr.Prjiu King, /#»*ii. 1628. againft the Arminian Errors, (hewing o^D^n^ ™>wthe hearts of the Kings fubjeds were prj>lexed&hen with broueht to forrdto tbtj behold a daily growth and fpreading 0} the jaBion light, p. 91, of the Armenians, but alas how is all kinde of groffe Arminia- 5)2,93,94- nifme, far worfe then factions and the Armenians of thofe the Kemon- timeSj preached and printed, now a Parliament is fitting, as by I'wn verL- Mn Den and his foll° wers' and in a Book imituled> 7*'/**- tim.* mSe °f Gods love manifefted, and Printed in theyeer 1*0*43 . be* fides far greater Errors then Arminianifme as is maniieft by this Catalogue. 4» That many Errours efthe Stearics, __ _iJZ 4. That thcfe are too much fuffered, let a!«me,not punifhed, where is there a man among ail the Sectaries that hath been made exemplary for punifhment, or hardly for any long time reftrained? thefyirit of old Eh is upon the land in regard of fparing Sfeftf and Sectaries , many Magiftrates fufFering them (o much, and the people loving to have it fo. ?. Sectaries have not been oneiy lee alone, fuffered, and un- found out, but when complained of by fome z.alous men, as Mimfters and others who have watted with expence of time5 and money, and informed ; the Sectaries have gotten off, and vent themfelves as bad and worfe then before, and nothing comes of al!,yea, when they have been committed or bound over by men of inferiour place, they have been releafed by others in higher place. 6. Errors and Schifmes are fo farre from being punifhed, that many who hold them arc highly refpe&ed, preferred, countenanced, put into many offices, places, yea after their being quefUoned by fome Orthodoxe men in place and cen- fured, they have been received into great mens houfes, have had places conferred on them, and that which is yet worfe and fhews the fad condition of this Kingdom, faitnfull, god- ly, orthodoxe perfons who have oppofedand queftioned (lin- king Sectaries, who have had nothing to commend them but theirErrors and Herefies,have ever after been undermined,o6- ftru&ed, difcounrenanced, complaints made againft them,pre- tencesofone thing or other, till they have been laid afide, or their lives and places burdenfome to them 5 of which I could give divers inftances in fome gallant men, 7. That perfons who would not be endured nor fjffered ia other countries and Churches, but were cafi out and baniQied for their errors herefies, and turbulency, do here in England vent and fpread their opinions,gather Churches,preach open- ly where multitudes refort, how many caftoutof Ne'to- Eng- land {ot their Antinomianifme, Aaabaptifme, &c. have come over, and here printed Books for their Errors, and preach up and down freely • fo that poor Wnglknd mud lick up fnch perfoas, who like vomit have been call out of the mouth of o< V 2 tkt 148 ^4 Catalogue md Difcovery ef ther Churches, and is become the common fhore and finke to receive in the filth of Herefies,and Errors from all places • what was faid of Bannibals Army , it was colluvies omnium gentium ,the fame may be faid of us for all kinde of feds and {dkw\&s%A*$lia collnvies omnium errorum & fetlarum. 8. The Errors of thefe times are vented by men looked up- on as godly and holy, who in the B.ftiops dayesfufTered,and were ftrict in their lives, and fo have an intereft in many good perfons, menalfo who are popular and have popular gifts to go up and down from City to country, from one country to another, and that go to meetings in private hou- fes, know the way of it, and the Art of taking people, talk all of Reformation and greater perfection, pretending to cor- rect Magnificat, and to reforme Epifcopacy, Presbytery, and ail Churches ; whereas the Arminians and Prelaticall men in the Bithops times were not eftcemed as good men, had not thofe popular gifts of prayer, &c. nor did know the way of private meetings, neither had they thofe preten- ces of holinefle, Reformation,to take the people with,but peo- ple generally judged they needed Reformation. 9. Thefe Errors are held, cryed up, and received as New Truths, as new and glorious Lights ; what was Error and worfe then naught , cryed downe in the Bifliops and their Chaplains for damnable Errors, Herefies, Armi- nianifme , Popery, the very fame points concerning uni- verfali Redemption , Free-will , conditional! Election , denying the fuffiriency and perfection of the Scriptures,^, are in our times new and glorious Truths , and preached to the people for the everlafting Gofpel. 10. Thefe Errors, Herefies, Blafphemies, are no? onely ven- ted in a corner,in fecret clofe chambers, with doors double locked, among two or three, that few or none heare or know of them, or in fome private village and remote dark corner of this Kingdom, that a man muft dig through a wall to fee and hear them,(which yet were fad enough, and was the cafe of the Prophet in Ez*k? 8. 8> 10, 12. feeing thofe Idola- ters m the dark, and in their chambers of Imagery) but in Houfes many Err ours of the Sectaries. 149 Houfes that ftand open for all, where many hundreds come and in the Mecrapolis of the Kingdom, London , and that in the heart of the City ; fo that they are not preached wich us in the ear, but on the houfe-top, we declare our* errours, is Sodom, and are notafhimed: yea, abominable errours are Printed, the Books fold up and down in tVeftmin(ier-Hatl, London^ and difperfed in all places ; yea, given into the hands of Parliament men in fVeftminfter-Hall , and daring at the Parliment doo s , to difperfe Books written in the defence of &ch and fuch errours. 11. Our Errours, Herefies, increafe after all our Deli- verances, Victories and fuccefles God hath given us ; yea, that which is moft fad to think of, all our Viftories,Succeffcs, are unhappily made ufeof, and turned to the increasing and growth of Errours ; every taking of a Town or City, is a fur- ther fpreading over this Kingdom the gangrene of Herefie and Errour, where thefe Errours were never known nor heard of before upon our taking of Towns and Cities, they come to Town, every enlarging of our quarters, is an enlarge - ing of fedlarififl and a multiplying of fchifms ; where can a man almoft go to any Garrifon, Town or City , and not meet with Anabaptifts, Antinomians, Brownifts, &c. Can a man go ?o Southampton, Port [mouth, WarVvick^, Gloucefter^ Briftols Yorkj Lynnjum multu ahU 2nd miiTc of them. 12. We are unfenfible and not affected under all thefe fpi- ritual plagues of herefie, fchifrn , bhfphemy, intolerable Anar- chy ; the fortieth part of thofe errours, herefies, blafphemies, which are now in the midft of us , would feven yeers ago (had we heard and known them) have made our hearts ake,ind our hair ftand an end, filled our faces with palenelTe and black- nefle, whereas now we make light of them ; thecuftome and conamonneffe of them hath taken away the fenfe and horror of them, weareftrangely fenfleffe, bruitifh and ftupid under all thefe errors;} or 4 yeers ago the twentieth part of thefeopini- ons and pra&ifes /aid down in this Catalogue,would not have been endured ; but the Minffters would have been more awa- kened and the Kingdom ft^rtled ; we fhould have kept folemn Eafts i let him be accur- fed. And Gal. 5. 1 2. I Would they Were even cut of Which trouble yon 1 j j 2 A Catalogue and Difcoverf of you ; wherein he ihewes that holy indignation agamft ialfe Teachers and falfe Dud rines which he doth not againft evil livers, neither praying fofor their cutting eft", nor in that manner pronouncing fuch a double being accurfed upon then?. In one word,herefies, errours , are more deftruclrve to the nature of a true vilible Church, thenloofe manners and de- ft roy the foundation more ; purity of Do&rine, profefllon of the true Faith , is the moll effential note of the vilible Church, when as outward fan&iey of life is not, but maybe found in men out of the Church ; falfe Do&« ine and Herefies alter and corrupt the Worfhtp it felf , lb doth not the bad manners of perfons in the Church : Hence Luther anfwers to fotne that objected bad manners to him, I will not faith Luther com- mend my manners, but Doctrine , and the true Faith , and be- fidesyis impoffible ( faith Luther ) bur that a bad life will fol- low falfe Doctrine ; for if men make ftiipwratk of Faith, they will of a good confidence : The Ttonatifis who fell into error?, fell to many infolenraes, as to commit rapes, marcher?, &c. So the Anabaptifts ; Antinomians, into what loofneffe do they run daily : Herefies and errours, fpread fooner, further, and more incurably 3 yea, take and infeel them , whom corrupt manners could not prevail with ; in broaching and main- taining herefies, men. vent their parts, learning, get a name and fame by them , which they do not by committing drun- kenncfli, uncleannefle ; men will dye in their errours, and ftand to them to the death , going by a rule ( as they con- ceive) but men all along purpofe to repent of their wicked pra&ifes; men are hardly , feldom reclaimed, convinced of the mod damnable er rours , becaufe the way of errour is commonly a faction , a party that hath interefts , d«fignss and many followers , whereas a bad life hath not the fe- rioirs confideration of thefe things, that herefies, errours, do fo abound among us , and that they are the worft of evil*, may ferve for a true glaffe to fliew us, in what a la- mentable dangerous condition we are in atprefent, and may make every one of us take up that wirti of Jeremiah, O that my head Were Waters, and mine eyes a fountain of tears , that I might many Brrours eft he Stttarits. i5^ might Weep day and night for the errours, herefies, blafphemiesy confufions, that are amongus : yea/to call upon others to come and make haft, and take up a wailing for us, that our^w may run do^n With tears, and our eyt-lids gujb out With Waters, to ceach alfo our fons and daughters wailing, and every neigh- bour lamentation , for death is come into many or our pa- rities, Houfes, Churches, todeftroy the fouls of our Wives and Children from within , and the young men from without : I think we have morecaufe to write Books of lamentation, and to weep over England iut : and therefore if Minifters will witneffe for trutfi and igainft errours, they muft fet themfelves in a fpecial manner gainft aTo'eration as the principal inlet to all herefieand rrour; and if a Toleration be granted , all preachiiag will otkeep them out: for as it hath been anfwered the Patrons I'rfTmages who plead, let them ftand, but preach againft the Ilvorftiippingof them, that if they ftand, pr^ching will not X 2 take 156 A Catalogue andDifcovery of take away all the danger ; 'tis not furficient to keep the people from all idolatry ; (o fay I in this cafe, if a Toleration be gran- ted , the Devil will be too hard for us>though we preach never fo much againft them. A Toleration will undo all ; Firft bring in Sceptifcifm in Doctrine and loofnefle of life , and after- wards all Atheifm. The Patrons of errour becaufe they cannot at firft plead for fuch and fuch Doctrines in termini*, and yet hold them , and would have them propagated , therefore they plead for a Toleration , which once being granted , they will come in then of courfe: O let the Minifters therefore oppofe Toleration as being that by which the Devil would at once lay a foundation for his Kingdom to all generations , witneffe againft it in all places, pofTeffe the Magift rates of the evil of it, yea, and the people too, (hewing them, how if a Toleration were granted , they fhould never have peace in their families more , or ever after have command of wives , children, fer- ftjr* vants ; but they and their pofterities after them are like to live in difcontent and unquietneffe of minde all their daye?. (3.)Prim& cuu Tis the faying {a) of Luther , that Minifters firft care ought nobis debet ejfe to be of the Name of God , and the next of the falvation of mminis T>eiy otners . wnen any thing is done , by which of neceffity either dfZlnorm of thefe mufl fuffer and m t0 the §round > ** tk§ ^T dlterumcum perijb , let kicked Magiftrates perijb, let the patrons of W*V- intercidcrc ne- k*d opinions perijh , let the Vphole World perifi , and let Gods cejfe fit percat Glory, his Word , his Church , his Worfhip , be faved> Amen. Papa,pere*nt Now nejther of thefe can be fafe if there fhould be a Tole- ^immtefemt ra"on ; but a Toleration is very deftru&ive to the Glory of impiorum d«g- God, and the falvation of fouls ; and therefore whoever fhould mtimpatroni, be for a Toleration, Minifters ought to be againft it: if the percatmus Parliament, City, yea all the people were for a Toleration mmdm3&> 0f all the Setts, Anabapdfts, Antinomians , Seekers, Brow- fa&rU%m ™fts,Independents(which I fpeak not to caft the leaft afperfion vcrbumfuus upon them, as if they would be, for I believe the contrary) but wltM Amen in fuppofing it; yet Minifters ought to prefent their Reafons c^.Hof. againfts it, preach and cry out of the evil of it , never confent to it,but proteft againft and withftand it by alllawful wayes and means within our callings and places, ventering the loffeof liberties, many Err ours of the Seclari es. 157 liberties, eftates, lives, and all in that caufe, and to inflame us with zeal againft a Toleration, the great Diana of the fefta- ries; lee the Minifters look npon that cloud of witntfles be- fore them, who were enemies to Tolerations. Paul certainly when he pronounced a curfe twice together, in galath. ie 8,o.upon falfe Teachers,*/" any man preach another Gojpelylet him beaccurfed, and wiftied they were cut off that troubled the Church , and would not give place to falfe teachers , no net for an hour , that fo the truth of the Go/pel might continue , was againft all Tolerations. The Fathers and Bifhops in the Primi- tive times were zealous and faithful in oppofing the fufFer- ing of hereticks and fchifmaticks , even when fome of the Emperours winked at them , or were their profefled Patrons, (b) Amphilochious is famous for dealing with Theodo- (b) Tbeodim. ftus the Emperour in fo free a way, and in fuch an admirable Eccl. Hift. 1. jt kinde, reproving him for fufTeringthe meetings of the Arri- c'}6t ans : fo is Ambrofe, when Valentinianm the fecond had pub- H*l ^ j lifhed a Decree, wherein he commanded the Arrians (hould a^Amirtf.' have Churches, for withftanding the Emperour to his face Epiji.ii.ad ixMillain, and refufing to deliver up his Church ; and laftly, vakmimper. ( to name no more of the Fathers ) fo is Cbryfoftome when & 0m**n the Arrians were permitted to hold a Synod within his City, n^^Jn for fpeaking to the Emperour Arcadlus after this manner: tr&daidis&> Tell meyO Emperour , whether if any man Would infert bafe and Epiji.$$. U abjetlftones, into that fair andfpecious CroWn Which thou Wear- M&rcclhin. eft upon thy head, Wouldft thou not be offended With him. The %™T™Xt Emperour yielding; Chryfoftome replied, Well,doeft thou not P^rtnvitA* thinfy the Emperour of Heaven Will be offended, if in a godly City Which is fincere and found, a [cabbed and infectious member be permitted to inhabit ; feeing it is required of every one, ei- ther that he be converted , or that he be banifhed : Yea, the pri- mitive Bifhops and Pallors of the Churches were fo againft mixtures of Religion, and admitting of divers wayes of Re- ligions in one City or Kingdom , as that they made many Canons and Decrees in Councels and Synods againft the fuf- fcring of hereticks and fchifmaticks , as ^Arrians, Donmfts, &c. and the Laws and Edicts of the Chriftian Emperours, againft 1 5 8 A Catalogue and Difccvery $f againtt hereticks andfchifmaticks, were not only approved of by t ^e Fathers , being Enacted and Decreed ftill after every general Synod,the Emperours publiftiing new Laws agatnft the new hereticksjbut thofe holy men were fo far from giving any way to formal Tolerations,as that they ftirred up and exhorted the Emperours, to adde their civil Sanctions to the Canons and Decrees of Synods , rmde againft the herefies and errours of the times. I might fheiv how the Paftors of tke Reformed Churches (namely thofe who were ftars of the firft magni- tude) were againft the Toleration of An abaptifts, Libertines, and other Serines in their time, and what th«y did and writ agiinftit, as Calvin, Zmnglins, Teeter Martyr^ Philip MeUntlonyZ tnchim , Bez,4y Knox, BttUinger, Mufculm ; yea, and Luther i however ac firft he was foraewhat tender in that point, as newly coming out of Popery, and knowing how .the Papifts had ab.ufed it,and fearing the worft ; yet afterwards he was againft a Toleration of hereticks and feifhries, and was (c)Lntb.Epift. for the banifbment and fuppreffion of them , as is evident by Tom. z.Epfj. an (c) Epiftle of his written in anfwer to that queftion, Whe- pag g8i. An- t^er n aUy 5e jawful for the Magiftratetokill falfe Prophets? tultddfrc " where' £**Wj judgement is for banifaing falfc Prophets, ffeudoprcpketM. but nut killing ; and by his writing to the Senate of Mulhu-. KefpvMt. Lux. Hum 3 ferioufly adir.oniihing them not to admit of the Anabap- tgo ad judicium ti& Thomas Alucer. For though Luther made requcft unto ^guinis ttvr- freiey^ Duke of Saxonie , that within his Dominion they almZ'crituYa might be favourably dealt with and fpared , (for that their Ikindat.cum errour exempted they fcemed otherwife good men ) yec inbiccAufktcr- afterwards upon better experience when Muncer was caft nt me exempli oat 0f Sdxonie \ he was fo far from interceeding for his read- fcqucUquam m;(fion ? that he writ with all fpeed and vehemency to Mul- *AntichriYk& bufium that they (hould not receive him. in ludais vide- mws. ubicum slatutum fuijfet Pfeudopropbetas iff lulm occUi fucccfo tmpotU fdfium eft utnon'hfi fanfta prophet* & innoccntettruadcrentur, author i tatc ejus 0 'atuti, quo impii Ma* giftum freti3 Pfeudopropbctx 0° beret'ms fecerunt fiofquos volucrint idem fequmurum ejfe timeo & apud noHros )i femel uno exemplo licitun probxri potent , (eduemes ejfc oceidendos turn ad hue apud PapittM videamm bujus ttatuti imv)ccntem fanguincm fundi pro nocente. ^nar6 nulla modo poffum admit t ere falfos 'Docfores occidi , fatk eft eos reiegari. quapjwafi fofteri fibufi voluntf mitim umen peaabunt &[ibi untum wctfaut. Slcidae many Erronrs oftht Se&aries. 159 Sleidan. lib. 5. fyjtiim ejctluse Szxonidt fmibus Muncerus obsrrMret ac rumor increbuijfet , earn eogitare Mulhufmmx Lutherus ea re cognhx datis ad Senatum liter is graviter monet> ne recipient. As aifo how in England 'in Queen Elizabeth dayes,learned Bifhops and godly Mtnifters were againit the fuffering of ma- ny Religions in this Kingdom • as Biihop /ittr/ , Biftiop Ba- bington , B (hops Bilfcn, Mafter CartWright , and Mart er Per- kins , who in his learned works on l£ev.2.io. fpeaks thus,!;^- r* man 14 not to be left to hu oVon confcience , to teach and held What Dollrine he Veil! : but all fuch men or Women as teach er- roneous Dotlrine , by the Cjovcrnours of the (fhurch are to be reftrained* It is a grievous fault in any Church not to retrain trie Anthers and maintainers of fells and fal^T)o Urines , and efennions Vfkich fiandmt With the truth of Gods bord^anden the eomrarj , iU a vertiie and good gift in ary Church Vvhnthey refirain the Authors and favourers of fe Us and fa If e rDoilrine> And in this regard cur Church is to be commended and approvedt And the Common^ tiilt'o lihe^tfe^f or making Latyes to refirain bothPopifh Recufints^and fome Prtteftar,ts% Who depart from *£% this our Church , as being no Church of God s but a member of Antichrifi and of Babylon, But I (hall paffe over thefe, and fet before the godly Orthodox Minifters, the zeal , courage, and faithfulmfteot fome BiOsops and their Chaplains, in King fsmes and Kmg Char Is his Raign , in writing * preaching, remoiiftrating , and presetting sgainft a Toleration of the er- rours of their times , thereby labouring both to provoke and ftiarne the Presbyterian Minifters , if they appear notagainft 3. Toleration of the erroun of this time. Jmhe beginning of King fames his Raign t the Fapifh hoping to work upon his natural difpotftion f Inclining to clemency and peace , framed and preieeted siarty Petitions and (applications to Him , for a Toleration of their Religion in private Houfes without ffloleftarjon W Frieft df Lsy*perfon for the fame • with reafons for a Toleration annexed thereunto, and not only by Petition* did they promote their deiign of a T#kration, but by ^T other meam3a^by foliciung friends abroad, and favourers i5° A Catalogue and Difcovery of Vlk Pomls anf. to Petit, for Toki> of Popery in England,*^ a i-efutat. ofan Epiftle Ayob- giticd written to perfwade the permi£ion of the promif- cuous ufe and profeflion of all feels and feercfies. Pag.^o, favourers ac home earneftly to importune King lames in their behalf, fo by transforming themfelves into aliform? and co- lours under feveral masks and vizors, fomecimes of Catholike Noblemen and worthy Gentlemen of England, fometimes of fpirituil, fometimes ol Lay-catholikes , and fometimes of true andchiritable Brethren of the Reformed Church, writing Books, Apologies and Epiftles for a Toleration. Now theie Petitions and Books were anfwered by Gabriel PoVcel , firft during his abode in Oxford, 1504. Afterwards living ac London houfe, 1605. by the commandment of fome of the Bifhops , he refuted an Apologetical Epiftle for the per- miffion and profeflion of allfedts and herefies, as alfo writ a Tractate of the unlawfulneffe and danger of a Toleration of divers Religions in one Kingdom : befides in his Book de Anti- chrijlo, Dedicated to King lames, in the Epiftle Dedicatory, he fpeaks notably againft Tolerations. And Gabriel Potyel did not onlyoppofe, but Doctor Sutliffe Dean of Sxeter , at the fame time writ a Book in anfwer to thofe Petitions of the Papifts ; and Doctor willet in his Preface to his Comentary on the Epiftle of Iude , writes againft thofe Popifh Books which in the former part of King lames Raign were kt forth to infinuate themfelves to the State , and to perfwade a Tolera- tion of their Religion , againft which he gives ten Reafons. And when in the latter part of King lames his Raign , the Spa- nifh match was on foot and thing? tended towards a Tolera- tion , and greater favour of Popery : Dr, Abbot then Arch- bifhopof Canterbury made a moft free Remonftrance to his Majefty againft the match and Toleration indulged to the Pa- pifts (a perfect copy whereof is in Mafter Tryns Hidden Works of darknejfe , or a necejfary Introduction to the Archbifhop of Canterburies try at.) In which Remonftrance are thefe fol- lowing paffages *. May it pleafe your Majeflie, 1 have been too longfilenti and am afraid by my filence lhave neghUed the du- ty of the place it hath pleafed God to call me unto^andjow-M fi- refly to place me in, Andnoft I humbly crave leave , I may dif- tharqe my confeience towards God, and my duty towards your Majefty. ssind therefore 1 befecch You give me leave freely to deliver mwy Erroms of the Sectaries. 1 6 1 deliver my felf , and then let jour Mafefty do W hat yo u p leafs With me. Tour Mayfly hath fro founded a Toleration of Rel$. gion , I befeech yon {Sir) tak* it into your confederation What your Atl it y What the conference may be ; by your A& you labour to jet up that mo ft damn-able and heretical Do Urine of the Church a/Rome ; h$W hateful it Mil be to God, and grie- vous to your good fubjetlsy &c. What dreadful conference the fe things may draw after I befeech your Mayfly to con fi- der : and above all, leaft by this Toleration and difcountenance ofthetrueprofeffionoftheGofpel, WhereWi^h Godhath blef- fed us, Tour Ma)efty do not draW upon the Kingdom in ge- nerally and your felf in particular , Gods heavy Wrath and in- dignation* Thus in difcharge oj my duty toWard God, to your Mayefty y and the place of my calling, I have ta\en humble boldneffe to deliver my conscience. And noW (Sir) do With me What you pleafe. This Refnonftrance againft a Toleration or indulgence of Popery was feconded by Doctor HakeWel and others. In this Kings Raign a Toleration of Popiflh Re- ligion for Ireland wis in agitation , and fo far proceeded as it was ready to be concluded ; whereupon the Archbifliops and Biftiops of Ireland joyned in a publick Proteftation againft it; A perfect Copy whereof is asfollowes. The Re- ligion of Papifts is fuperftitious and idolatrous , their faith and DoUrine erroneous and- heretical , their Church in yefpefi; of both , Apoftatical $ to give them therefore a Toleration of Religion , or to confent that they may freely exercife their Re- ligion and prof effe their faith and Do Urine , is a grievous fin and that in tWo refpeils : Tirfiy it is to make our f elves accef- fory not only to their fuperftitious idolatries, here fie s , and in a Word to all the abomination of- Popery ; but alfo ( Which is a consequent of the former) to the perdition of the feduced people , Wlich perifh in the deluge of the Catholike Apoflacy. Secondly, to grant them a Toleration in refpefl of any money ta be given , or contribution to be made by them, is to fet Religi- on to fale, and With it the fouls of the people , Whom Chrift our Saviour hath redeemed With his blood. And as it u a great fin j fo it is a matter of mo ft dangerous confequence , the con- Y Jideration j 6z A Catalogue and Difcovtryof federation thereof Vee leave to the Wife and judicious , befeeeh* ing the jealous God of truth , to make thofe Who are in Autho- ty z*ealous of Gods Glory , and of the advancement of true Re- ligion] zealous, re folate, and couragious , againft all Pope- ry, Superftition , and Idolatry, And when there was a greac meeting of all the chiefeftin the whole Kingdom about a Toleration, and hkely to be granted: Doctor DoVenam Bifaop of London- derry > preached at Dublin before the Lord Deputy and the whole State , and in themidftof his Sermon , openly read, this Proteftation above written, fubferibed by. the Archbiftiops and Bi&ops of Ireland , and. at the end he boldly faid, and let all the people fay, Amen. And thereupon , fuddenly all the whole Church al- moftfhook with the found that their Amen made, and the Lord Deputy calling for the Bifhop , for a Copy both of his Sermon and Proteftation , to fend to the King; the lear- ned and couragious Biftiop gave this anfwer , that there was nothing he either fpake or read in the Pulpit, but he would willingly juftifie before his Majefty , and feared not wha read or faw it;which Proteftation and Sermon were a means to prevent a Toleration. Now if the Bifliops and their Chap* lains werefozealouSjCouragiou?, againft a Toleration of the errors and falfe Doctrines of their times both in England and Ireland, as thus to write, preach, remonftrate, and to pro- tefl: , and that in corrupt degenerating times , when the Court Prerogative was fwollenhigh, and the current for *ri. Wt.Vryns favouring of Popery run faongxYL.'James his minde with ma- Hf*™> Match, bought to and fa" this Kings Raign and Marriage with a Papift, Po- pufelikelight pefy having many powerful friends 'b*th in the Court of difcovering to England & Ireland;^* there having been for many yeers deep the world the defigns to bring Popery in again into thefe Kingdoms , for fnPn'er^lT5 tHe cfcftinS °f which * °ne °f the beft meanS P^JM&$ to ouTckircIi was the giving, of a Toleration and Indulgence J Did 1 fay and to reduce tn^ Archbifaops^ Bifliops, Deans, Doctors, Court Chap- all em- Realms iarns3andBifaopsCrnplains(for there were fome of all thefe v toiRmc. forts eppofed) hazard the favour ©f King, Nobles , greats Courtiers many Errours of the Sectaries. 1 6} Courtiers,the lofleof all their preferments, Archbifhoprick^ Bifliopncks , Deaneries , great Livings , to withfhnd a Toleration : and dial! the Minifters ©t our times fufrer a Toleration of allfe&sto come in upon us, in a time when the greateft Reformation is pretended that ever was in this Kingdom, and a Parliament fitting, and be either wholly filenc , or oppofe faintly ; be afraid of difpleafing fome great men, or hazarding a little eftate and liberty ? was the luke- warm Angel whom God hath call: out of this Churchjor not being zealous enough , yec fo zealous as to hazard all a* gamft a Toleration of Popery , and that to the face of King, Deputy of Ireland, and the whole State ? and (hall the Pres- bycerians Orthodox godly Minifters be fo cold, as to let Anabaptifm, Brownifm, Antinomianifm , Libertinifm, In- dependency , come in upon us, and keep in a whole skin? O let not the Aflembly , Minifters of London and the King- dom, give anyoccafion ( God forbid theyftiould) to the enemies of Reformation, to fay of them, The Bifhops and their Chaplains (who were counted Time-fervers) oppofed the errours of their times , withftood a Toleration with the hazard of great preferments , and great revenues; but the Presbyters who pretended to be great Reformers , to re- form the former Reformation , and to correct Magnificat , ftiffered all kind of errours and fchifms , to come in when they were in place , yea, and a Toleration , and durft not appear vigorously againft them, for fear of offending thif Great-man , or lofing this Friend , or being hindred of this Preferment they might haply come to , if they fhould be too forward. Certainly, the Bifhops and their Chaplains (hall rife up in judgement againft the Miniftery of this generation, who appeared againft the minde of King, Councel, and fo powerful a faction , as was for Po- pery and the Toleration of it in thofe dayes , if they be fi- ient or mealy mouthed; befides the (hame and difhonour of it here , before the Churches abroad , and good men at home, who will lay all the blame upon the Minifters, and fay we may thank them for this , for dealing no more free- Y 2 W ! 54 4 Catalogue and Difcovery of ly nor faithfully with the Kingdom ; ciying out an unwor- thy Affembly, an unworthy Miniftery in City and Country, to fit ftill , and fuffer all thefe errours and poyfonous Prin- cipks , in Books , Sermons , to come in upon us , and to paffe unqueftioned. 0 for fome Gabriel Potyels, 'Doftnams, Abbots, &c. to write, preach, remonftrate , proteft againft the errours and wayes of thefe times i 'tis want of courage and fpeaking out hath undone us , and tis only boldneffe and freedom in fpeaking, to declare particularly fuch Books come forth, fuch Sermons preached , fuch praclifes played, fuch perfons preferd and fuffered, fuch partiality ufed, &c. in reference to the fe&aries, that muft recover us; there's no way to put a ftop to things , and fave all from mine, but prefent courage and heroick refolution, and lets fpeak out , and fuffer no longer a company of giddy, cunning, felf-feeking fe&aries , to betray the truth of God, and to abufe and undo two Kingdoms : And I would not doubt it, if the Affembly, Orthodox Minifters of the City and Country, would but be couragious, and appear effectu- ally in their Miniftery ; they would make all the fe&aries and their friends weary , and afhamed of the trade they drive, and the courfe they take ( they being guilty of fuch foul matters , both againft the Church and the civil Peace ; yea, Kingdom of Scotland, City of London, the Reformed Churches , and Parliament) Lets therefore fill all Preffes, caufe all Pulpits to ring , and fo pofTefle Parliament, City, and whole Kingdom againft the fe£te,and of the evil of fchifm, and a Toleration , that we may no more hear of a Tolerati- on nor of feparated Churches ( being hateful names in the Church of God ) And if any Minifters fhould be afraid of fuffering in places where they live , becaufe the fedaries have a powerful influence in fome parts , and afts and wayes of molefting and troubling thofe who oppofe them • let them confider they cannot fuffer upon a more honourable point, then in oppofing by all lawful wayes , as by preach- ing, writing, the coming in of a formal , legal Toleration of herefie, fchifm , and all Doctrine , which is contrary to godiinefle, many Errours of the Sectaries. 1 6$ godiinefle, and to the peace of Church and State. It hath been the defire and care of godly Minifters in the Biftiops times , when God called them to fuffer , that they might fttfer upon fome point which was clear, and not upon words or matters by the by. Now the oppofing the feels of thefe times , and that great defire of a Toleration of all Re- ligions , pleaded for fo much by many , are points will bear us out before Godj and all who come after us (if ever a Toleration fhould be granted ) will fay when they fee and feel the mifchiefs of a Toleration , Thefe were good and wife men, that had their eyes in their heads and looked *CH a far off , as often as new evils arife in the Kingdom upon a Toleration; this which they have done againft a Tolera- tion , will be fpoken with honour of them throughout ail generations, and in other Chriftian Kingdoms. 2. Minifters in their meetings ^ ftiould advife and agree together, to confider of and think upon fome wayes and means , for the preventing the further growth of the feels, preferving their people from the infection , and the reme- dying of them ; and therefore it were good, that in the City and in each County , the Orthodox godly Minifters would chufe a company among themfelves , make a Committee to attend upon this work , and draw up fome things that might be ufuful to put a ftopto our errours, which might come forth in the name , not of any one man, but of all ; as many | eyes fee more then one, and many hands build up more : So I a&s and wayes propounded by a Community jtnany Minifters carry more waight and authority , then done by one fingle Minifter; and therefore it were good to fet forth fome j Books againft the errours of our times , with /oynt confent ( in the name of all the Minifters, to fend out fome grave Ad- j monition to the people , in the name of the City-Minifters j; fubferibed by all, to warn the people , in the name of God |. to beware of the errours of thefe times , and to withdraw I from fe&aries , and to return again into the bofome of the Church ; and laftly, for the Minifters to make a Remon- ftrance of all the Errours, Herefies, Blafphemies, Schifms, InfolenciesP I £$ A Catalogue andDifcovery of Infolcncies, Tumuks, that have been in England thefelaft five yeers , out of ail the Printed Books , publike Sermon?, preachings in private Houfes, difcourfes of the fe&aries; and with a Petition humbly to prefent it to both Houfes , with fiands fubferibed of ail the Orthodox godly Miniftersin this Kingdom : In the beginning of che Parliament , there was fuch a Re monftrance containing the errours in Doctrine, innovations in Worfhip , tyrannical pra&ifes in Govern- ment in the Bifaops dayes , with aboat eight hundred Mini- sters hands fubferibed to it, and ail know the good that came of it ; but now theres a more fruitful field to walk in , more matter , ftranger Doctrines > greater Blafphemies, Innova- tions in Worfhip, horrible Infolencies and Diforders for fuch a Remonft ranee ; and who knows but 'd this were done fully fas it might) with a thoufand hands of Minifters fub- feribed to it, and fet before che Parliament , it might do as good an office for the fe&aries , as for the Prelates and their Courts > 3. Tothefe, and all other wayes ufed by the Minifters,' they muft pray much to God , and call upon him night and day , that he would prevent and caft out of this Church all the errours, hercfies, roots of bitternefie, poyfonous principles got in among us, and to give a mifcarrying womb to the fe&arics , that they may never bring forth that mif- fhaped Baftard-monfler of a Toleration (which is partfifti, part flcfti , and part neither of both , that hath one part like afi(h, another likeabeaft, a third part like a man) Mini- fters muft give themfelves continually to prayer , as well as Aft'6'4» Miniftery of the Word; praying as well as preaching a- gainftthe errours of the times'; and therefore let the Mini- fters pray, pray, pray, yea, faftand pray againft the feds, and againft the much beloved Toleration , faying with £>*- vid, I will yet pray againft their tyickednefte : Lets com- plain to God, how his Truth is trodden down, his Name blafpheraed $ the Crown of his Glory prophaned , the Scriptures derided, the Miniftery of hi9 Word defpifed, the Church and Sacraments denied 5 yea, all Religion ready to be rntny Errours of the Sectaries. 167 Book cnthulei Toleration juftin.p. 3^. teloft; and lets cry to him with David, Itu time for thee Pfi.119.116 Lord to Vcork^y {or they have made void thy LaV?t thy Gof- pel, Faith , yea, and the light of Nature and Reafon , plea- ding for a Toleration of all blafphemies , and denying there is a God : Minifters have caufe to take up that prayer in Cant .2.15. Takf us the foxes, the little foxes that fpoile the vine /, for our vines have tender grapes ; and that in Pfalw.JC 0 God the heathen are come into thine inheritance, Alexander the devout Bifhop of Alexandria^ was famous for his pray- ers againft Arriw , and did as much againft him ,• as Atha- nafius by his deep Disputations and Arguments. Theodoret relates of Alexander , that when he was commanded by fonfiantine, upon pretence of repentance to receive Arrius into the Church, he went into the Temple with two more, cafting himfelf down before God , weeping and praying, that he Would not fuffer thetyolfe to be mingled With the fieep, \ in his prayers, faying, Lord, but if thou permitteft him to fjn^eiifri Tbcod. baret. Fabul.l^. dc Ario. come in, neither can thy judgements be fe arched out, takf a\Vay thyfervant out of this prefent life. And upon Alexanders pray- ers , the next morning immediately Arrius was fmitten by God , and died mifcrably, his bowels falling out.(*) Luther obferves that the prayers of Minifters unro God do oft more againft herefies and falfc Teachers , then their arguments, faying , that hereticks and falfe teachers are the ftroaks of divine wrath to a Church and Kingdom; as heretofore funt pligx di- vina irx, nan [ecu* ac olim po- fuli earn alls plagacratgl/X* dim canalk> idcoquc mxgis orationc bumili apud Xcum a carnal fword wasGods plague to a carnal people;and there- &%cnViaw>3 fore the^ftroak is to be more turned away , and God to be reconciled by humble prayer with him, then to deal with trfem by ftrengthof wit and learning, that fo the victory may be upon outwars (God (hewing mercy J and not of our works ; And Luther fpeaking of hereticks , faith they are hot overcome with force of Arguments nor with Reafons, They groW proud and infult over all thefe , and prevail till the lacrymis, nbn nottorum operwn. Impij Voctores funt p&na feccatorum, Of fumma Dei indignath: And fpsaking of Rcafons againft them, faitlr, (uperbiunt fuper bxc omnia (? prevalent donee dextra excelfr cos immutct quod yi facial rion fiducia ingaij, clofuentia eruditionis prsfimien- dam cU, fed bumili clamorcimphrindvA eft,Lu:iiem. right dus, quam viribus in genii aut eruditionis cum Of congyQ' diendum, ut victoria fit TJei miferenth ipra* v&cati voftris 1 68 i^A Catalogue and Difcoverj of Vide Cjzbriel Fowets Book intituled A confideration of the Papifts Reafons of right hand of the High change them ; Which that God may do, We muflnot yrefume nortrtifi upon Wit , learnings ioquence , but God is to be implored With humble earneft yrayer. Cjabricl yofltf/who was fo zealous againft Popery and the Tolera- tion oHc, as to write fo many Books, did alfo exprefle his tears and make an humble Petition unto God againft them, full of zeal and affeftion; and therefore Minifters in our State and Re- times, wherein not only principles of Popery are maintained, ligion, for bur all other herefes, yea, and a general Toleration aimed at Po-TlnThelr as aPPears ^ c^e gr€aEeft number of Books Printed on that iuppiieationer Argument, ftiould according to that exhortation^ the Pro- to the King , phet Ioel , tVeef between the Torch and the sAltar , and and the Hates fay , Spare thy people 0 Lord , and give not thine heritage to ^j^jre&nt reproach. Ioel 2. 17. 2. The Magiftrates from the confideration oF all thefe errours , herefies, blafphemies , ftiould appoint and com- mand a folemn general Faft 3 to be kept throughout the Kingdom , for this very end, that the Land might be hum- bled and mourn for thefe herefies, blafphemies, &ct and for the great growth and too much fuffering of them; and for the fearful breach of our folemne Covenant with God, we have had publike folemn Fafts, feveral times commanded upon particular occafions ; and lately , one kept for feeking God , about the felting the Covenant of the Church , but we have had none yet called, nor kept particularly upon this occafion of herefies, fchifms, blafphemies, which is the fad- deft of all. Mofes that great Magiftrate, upon the peoples making a golden calf , and committing idolatry, fafted the fecond time forty dayes and forty nights , even prefently tfM.New An- after fafting forty dayes before, "Dent. 9. 18, ip. com- pared with verfeo. and verfe it. (the number of forty dayes, are fundry times mentioned in the Scripture for humiliation ) and have not our Magiftrates great caufe to faft , for the golden calfs made by the people , the ftrange opinions and worftiips of thefe times , and to be afraid of the anger and hot difpleafure wherewith the Lord may be wroth againft us to deftroy us, Thofe two damnable errors of Parliament 3 in the end of which Book Vide, The Au- thors Tears and Humble Petition unto Almighty notations on and Ainfw. on Dm. 9. 18 many Errours oft he Stearics. 169 of denying the Do&rine of the Trinity and Divinity of Chrift (if there had been nomorej which have been open- ly and publikely maintained by fome, and are fceld by ma- ny , were as juft a caufe for fading and humiliation , as the Israelites golden calf; thefe opinions befides all theo- therwickedneifeof th?m being idolatries, (b) Learned Vo- (h) Pott.Thef. etivu (hews excellently that Antitrinitarians and Socinians dc necef. ac are moil: bafe idolaters , and that their idolatries more evi- ^Umt. Vog. dent and groffe, then thePapiftsin praying to the Virgift %^Z^TU Mary and Saints: The Magiftrates in Ifrael were wont Alt.fe5l.L&. upon blafphernies againft God, to proclaim publike Fads, %.Et socini&m to call folemn AfTemblies,as is maniftft (c) in 1 Kin.21 9. and t$iii<>Uhtr& therefore fefabel, when (lie would have falfe witneffes fub- ^iu^em tut ornedto accufe T^aboth of blafphemy , gives order accord- ifl™%f"rT ing to the cuftome that was among Ifrael , that the Elders m^A reugm('s and Nobles fhould proclaim a Fall:. When %*bfecabbh(mfu*pmeru' phemed God, Eliaktm the fonof Hllklah and Sbefa* tK^mmi^umfi- Scribe,d^. rent their clothes , and when Hezekjah hezrdlmm[l.ir*utpriva~ reafon for our Magiftrates in refped of all the blafphemous ^S^f opinions , and blafphemous fpeeches which have been in %cintM.n<&ua this Kingdom within thefe few yeers , and lately, (many e(i idolohtrU particulars whereof are laid down in this Catalogue) to multo widen- call upon us to faft and pray, to rend our hearts and to tior>(?magk be humbled to the dull: , to appoint folemn dayes of humi- ********* iiation, becaufe of all the errours, herefies, blafphernies; C^;^f^V0m and may not we fpread before the Lord, in the Houfe of the u'no {Maria,®* Sanftorttm in Papatu. (c) Junius i.Kin^.21.9. fatum iudiffQ jejuni? mvQMtc , ut pT9 more publico convemi dc mxkfitm inquifitio hibcttur* Z Lord I jo i~A Catalogue and Difc'overj of Lord all the herefiis and blafphemies contained in this Book, as Hezthiah did Rabfecahs letter, praying to God, and lay- ing our mouths in che dull , if fo be there may be hope/ay- ing, Thkday is a day of trouble , and ofrebuk£> and of blaf- , fhemy ; for the children are come to the birth , and there is no flrength to bring forth. In Mat. 9. 15. Ghrift fhewes that the chiefeft ground of fafting in theGofpel for Chrift ians, is the taking away of the bridegroom, the loflfe of Chrift, The bridegroom /hall be taken from themy and then Jhall they fafl. In £#^.33.3. God tells Mofes, that for their fin in che rik. Ainfw. golden calfe, he would not go up in the midft of them, they nExQl$$.?, fhould lofe his prefence, to wit, the vifible figne of his prefcnce as in the cloudy that is (as the Hebrew Doctors fay) The Sons of Ifrael made the golden calfe , and the glorious cloud Which overfhadoWed them Was taken aWay , and they re- trained uncovered* Now upon this evil tydings of lofing a vifible figne of Gods prefence, the people mourned and did not put on their ornaments ; nayinverfe5. God calls upon them, to put off their ornaments from them, that he may know what to do unto them, that is to faft and pray, to humble their fouls, and fliew fruits of repentance, (for putting off ornaments ufed to accompany fafting, fona 3. 6. 2 Sam. 12.15,20. 'Dan. 10.3.9. Ezra 3.4.) And what caufe then is there in this Kingdom for folemn fafting and prayer above any time fince the Reformation , feeing thats a fpe- cialGofpel fafting day, and time of humiliation the lofft of Cnrift, and the withdrawing of Gods prefence? Now take away purity of Doctrine and worship from a Church, and Chrift withdraws- errours and herefies drive Chrift sway who is the truth, and deny the Lord who bought his Church. And therefore towards the removing and pre- venting of the wrath of God, I judge it needful for the Parliament , to call and appoint fome folemn fads of this nature, toconfeffe the errours, herefies, and blafphemies of thefe laft yeers, and to cry mightily to God not to vific she land for them. 2, The Magiftrates together with the commanding of a folemn mmy En^rs of the Sectaries, i y x folemn faft, iurcgardof the many er rears and the breach of the National Covenant s (hould call upon the people for a folemn renewing of the late Covenant , and that upon thofe fading dayes, and fhogl^ fend forth fome orders to the Minifters, to lay open to the people the breach of the Covenant and the danger of k , and to ftir them up to re- new and keep it better. In the fecond Book of the Chro* nicies we flu 11 read , that alter grea*- corruptions and dege~ ne rations , the good Magistrates, A fa Hezekiah, Iofiabt renewed their Covenant , and caufed all the people to do fo to ; and confidering what a woful falling from the truth and breach of the Covenant hath been in this Kingdom, fince the taking of it (as for inftance , we fwear to the molt High God to root out and extirpate all herefie, fchifm, and whacfoever Doctrine is contrary to godlineffe ; and fince the Covenant, they have grown more and been fuffcred more then before ) theres a great deal of need that on Fad dayes appointed for humiliation for the herefies, fchifms, &c the Covenant (hould be anew taken , and kept better by us. 3. Together with the publike Fafts and renewing the Covenant , the Magidrate to (hew his deteftation and abo- mination of ;the errours, herefies of the times , fhould com- mand that in the clofe of the fading dayes , the wicked Books printed of late yeers, (fome whereof iicenfed, dif- perfed, cryed up) (hould be openly burnt by the hand of the hangman ; as the Books entituled Mortality of Man^ The *B foody Tenet % Companionate Samaritan , The ftorming of tAntichrift , The ^Pilgrimage of Saints, Toleration jttfti- fied , Ffflnejfe of Gods love minified , The Arraignment of Perfection , Sacred Decretal , Martins Iiech*, Dtfeoverey, ef the man of fin , The Smoa\ in the Temple , with many o- then. Mofes'm 2W.9.21. tells Ifrael that he took cheir fin, the calf which they made, and burnt it with fire: O that out Ma^ftrates would take thefe calfesof the people, thefe Idol Books and burn them with fire ; O what a burnt offering, afweetfmdUng lac rifios would this be to God? Z 2 There iy2 A Catalogue and Dtfccvery of There was a Book burnt by command of Authority, about fome five moneths ago , called Comfort for believers ', with a Declaration made upon it by the Aflembly ; O what a goodly bonefire would ail the heretical and erroneous Books make , that have been printed in England within thefe fcur taftyeers, with a folemn Declaration to be publi- shed at their burning 4. After all thefe, theMag'ftrates fhould execute fome exemplary punifhment upon fome of the moft notorious fe&aries and feduccrs, and upon the wilful Abetters of thefe abominable errours , namely, the Printers, Difperfers, and Licenfer?, and fet themfelves with all their hearts , to find out wayes , and to take fume courfe to fuppreffe , hin- der j and no longer fuffcr thefe things 5 to put out fome De- clarations againft the errours and the wayes of the feftarie?, as their fending Emiffaries into all parts of the Kingdom > to poy fon the Countries as their dipping of perfons in the cold water in winter,whereby perfons fall Mck,dye, &c. de- Epifiol. Zuivg. daring that they fhall be proceeded againft* as Vagrants and & oecokmpad. Rouges that go from Country to Country, and if any faH L2.fol.84. fick up©n their dipping and dye, they fhall beendited upon Vecrevitiu- ^ statute of killing the Kings fubjcdts y and proceeded TcnSTU aSainft accordingly. Tis related of the Senate of Znrk\ um colLioncm that they made a decree againft the Anabaptifts , after they quanimirum had been dealt with all by ten feveral difputstions , and dccimifuit, continued ftill obftinate , that whofoever rebaptized any ^°?lAliA5f,e that had been formerly baptized , he fbould be caft into the wvawlamk water an(* drowned . And in one word to caufe all the peo- mcrgcre\ui pie to ftand to the Covenant; as tis faid of lofiah 2 Chron, merjem bap- $f.$ti that is to keep them in fuch awe , by the Magiftrates tifmoeumqui Authorise and Penal Laws, as that they (hall not dare but pirn cm(crat. ftand t0 the Covenant; 5. To all thefe, the Magistrate (hould adde the fpeedy cftablifhing and fetiing the whole frame of the Govern- ment of the Church, in all the Officers, AfTemblies , and Cenfures, without which this Church will never be brought into unity, nor errours prevented from rifing up,or fuppreffed when grown, , 3. Vth* many Errors of the Sectaries. \q*$ 3., Private Chriftians they fhoulddo fomthing confider- ing the errours and herefies of thefe times :Firft,mourn, and figh in fecret , be as the Doves of the vallies , mourning for the difhonour of God and his Name , the ruine and dedu- ction of fouls, like thofe in E&kiel, Ezek.9.4. Secondly, they (hould take heed, and be fearful more then ordinary of the errours of thefe times.and beware Ieaft they be led away; Chriftians have many exhortations given them in this kind, by Chrift and his Apoftles to beware; as Mat. 7. 15. Mat. 16, 6. M*r.%. 15. P^/7.3. 2. iPet.^ij.Colof.iS. they had need beware of the ftieeps clothing, of Satan trans- formed into an Angel of light , and that they may be pre- ferred; yet they muftftiun their fociety and company, be afraid of converting and being familiar with them, having parly with them ( for they have many fubtile arguments to intangie, fained words to make merchandife of people, good words and fair fpeeches , to deceive the hearts of the fimple) foChriftians are commanded Rom. 16.17. to avoid them, 2 Tim, 3.5. to turn away from themfpokenof fe- ftaries, 2Epiftleof lohn 10. 11. not to receive them into houfe, neither bid them God fpeed , give them no counte- nance. O the zeal that hath been in the Primitive times a- gainft keeping of company and familiarity with hereticks! As in Sainft John againft Cerinthus^ in Toticarpus , againft Marcion • and truly, when I look upon fome Chriftians, I wonder how they dare keep company or be familiar with fome fe&aries of this time ; as Wright crlweb, Hicht Erburyy D en^Randa/yPattl Hobfon, Lambed fuch like. 2. They muft take heed of going to their Conventicles and Churches, to hear them preach and exercife ; thofe private meetings are the nurferies of all errours and herefies , very peft houfes. *Tis Storied oflulianihc Jpoflata, that he came to fall from Chriftian Religion , by going to the School of Libanitts the Sophifter , where he heard Declamations againft Chri- ftians 5 and many by going to the fedaries Sermons and ex- ercifes, where they declam againft our Church and Mini- ftery, pretending great Reformation, and purity, come to fall I j^ A Catalogue and Difcovery ef fall to their Errors and wayes.Tis Sclmoons tounfeljPr^.ip* 27. Ceafe my [on to hear the inflruUion that caufeth to err e from the Words of knoftUdge-^nd Chriftians ftiould ceafe from thofe that preach errcrs,¬ lead themfelves into temptation lead God leave them, but rather every good Chriftian fhould fay cf the feparated meetings of thefe times3asold/^^of Simeon & Levifi my fouljome not thou into their fecretsjtnto their af- Jemblies mine honour be not then united. 3. Chriftians had need to pray much that God by his fpirit would lead them into all truth, and keep them from being led into Temptation, "that he who keeps the feet of his Saints would keep them ; we are fallen into thofe times wherein if it were pofiible the very Eleftfhouid be deceived, (yea without all queftion) feme of the Elecl are deceived in thefe times, and led away with too many Errors for a while, and therefore we had need pray and pray that we may have fuch an un&ion from the holy One, whereby we may know the Truth from Error. 4. Chriftians fhould grow in Grace, laying out what: ftock they have, doing what they know, and fo they fhall s p#.$; uii. know more, and that will be a good means to preferve them, 3. Private Chriftians for a remedy of thefe Errors, Herefies, &c. (honld in all humble manner Petition the Magiftrates againe and againe , that fome courfe may be taken againft the Errors , Herefies, Blafphemie?, &c. of thefe times, reprefenting the fad condition of their coun- treys parifhes, families, and laying open how their Wives and Children are ftollen from them, and taken away againft their wills 5 how they have no command of their fervants, no quiet in their families, no peace to them that come in, nor to them that go out : If any perfons (hould go about to fteal from us our children, fons and daughters to carry them ovc; beyond Seas, and that in all parithes Children were ta- ker* a * ay , «vhat a cry would there be, and Petitions put up to the .Viagiftratts to remedy this ! Now behold there are worfe fpnks abroad then thofe, that go up and down from City to Countrey, and from one Countrey toanother,to fteal away our Wives, Children, fervants, and to carry them to worfe ntany Err ours of the Sectaries. J75 worfe places then New Plantations, namely to Hell ; and (hall Chrifttans fit ftill and fuffer all, and not lay open their cafe to them who may help and remedy thefe things ! i3.CV**/.Hence then from all thefe Errors,Se<5ts,Herefies, Blafphmies, and ftrange Pra&ifes of the Sectaries, vented in a few years, and fo many obferved by one man, we may fee and learn what a vaft tai^g Error is, how endlefle 'us, without all bank or bottom, a whirlpool and bottond.fle gulf, Error knows no end ; when men once forfake the nar- row and ftraight way of Truth, they wander in infinitum $ look as 'tis in Philofophy, mo abfurdo dato milk ftqtmtury one abfurdity being granted, a thoufand follow ; foin Divi- nity, as 'tis with fim,blood toucheth blood, and one fin draws another, till there be a long chain, and one wickedntfle is maintained by another; little fins make way for great, and one brings in all; foin Errors, there's a chain too. and one Error is brought to defend another Idolatry and Will- wor- ftiip; the Errors or that hand are unfatiable, multiply exeef- fively, as the Prophet E^ekiel fpeaks in the 16 of Ezek^ of the unfatiableneflfe of lerufalem when once fhefell to Ido- latry, how fhe committed whoredom with the Egyptians, howfheplayed the Harlot with the Adrians, becaufe un- fatiable, and yet cohW not be fatisfied, how (he moreover multiplied fornications in the Land of Canaan unto Cald?a3 and yet not fatisfied, ver. 26,28,29. And we fee in Popery there's no end of their Superftitions and Wiil-worfhips, of the number of their Saints, Images, Altars, Ceremonies,^. And fo 'tis in Errors on the right hand, and in all forts of Erroneous way es. The Bonatifis among themfelves brake into many pieces, into MimtuU fruflula , as *Au$uftine fpeak?, and that not only falling from one Schifm to ano- ther, ren: upon rent, but fell from Schifm to H-refie, and fromoneHerefieto another, many Dmmfts falling to be Arrians. Cah'm Writing againft the Libertines faith of them, If he (hould take upon htm to mention or compre- n"^1?' r hendali, he ftiould never make an end, For there have l^.T/ been divers Sefts of that way both in Holland, Bra font, 17 6 A Catalogue and Dlfccvtry of and in the other parts of Lower Germany » and therefore he would only fpeak of them that had difturbed thofe parrs to which he had fpecial relation. The old Anabaptifts fell into fo many Seels and Factions, and into fo many contrary Opinions and differences, as that fome thought it impoffible to n U'n ad- kc tn€rn a^ down *n °rder;and therefore Bullinger in writing vaf^AnaWp- of the Anabaptifts, profeffes he will not endeavour exactly n\l. lib. i.e. s?. and largely to defcribe all the feveral Sects of Anabaptifts, as being not pofiible to be done ; and in the chief Fadions which he names under feveral heads, he (hews alfo they are not of the fame Opinion, even in the fame points. And to what ftrange Pradifes the Anabaptifts fell, both at Mnnjler and other places, Hiftories are full of. The Netherland Ar- minians who at fa ft fell into Errors but in a few points, the five points (as they are commonly called) in a few years* into what Herefies of all forts did they fall, as into Soci- Vide Voctkm nianifm, Libertinifm, Anabaptifm,Scepticifrn ? Many of the dcTolemitu Remonftrants Miniftcrs were guilty of the Socinian Anti-Tnniu- £rrors and jn -their Churches did nourifti and tolerate 'tmoufrmcl1 ali thofe whom the? knew t0 hold the Socinians Tenets> wi^utiiuL- an(l worfe too. And now the Sectaries of our times cinidnkErro- who a few years ago were generally Independents or tibvA deprebenfi Brownifts at moft, into .what Errors are they fallen, and inter quos cde- mo what Pradifes, running every day further and further, sILwuTa- ac*ding ^ity cut °f Pretence of New-light and Revelation, doivfjMVcMior, one horrid Error or new Ordinance or other, fo that they Geisleram duo, are fallen to damnable Herefies,Blafphemies,and come round & compiures to thofe Pradifes & principles for which at firft they pretend- inZuidM- ed to fall from u?. This whole Book in many particulars I im &T0. have given* iS a foli proof of th*s; an<* ycc to what they wil1 Vide 'voetiwL f^' tn^ ^wd onty knows. We may fear many of the Seda- in Thef. dc , ries will as at Munfterj.wx\ up and down naked in the fleets, necejfn. &r u~ and come to thofe unheard of cruelties and prophaneffes tilmtc Vogmat. reiated by Hiftorians of thofe Anabaptifts. Look as it w; dc Trimt.quod * Remonttrantcs inter fuos tolcrarent, fovereni, pomovcrent cos omnes quos Socintinii aui *Anabj,piQicU3 mtfeioribus opiwouibus dclibutos probe novewit Ex, gr. Welfmgiitt. Tombergiitm. Will many Err ours of the Sectaries, I 77 with fome Popifti fpirits in thofe late times when men ran a madding after Popiflh Innovations and Ceremonies, as Dr. Cofens and others, thefwere infatiable, daily finding out fome Innovation or other to bring into their Chappels and Worfhip of God, adding this week one new Invention, and the other week another, and fo on, till in fome things they went beyond Popery in their outward Worfhips • and had thay been let alone, God knows what they would have come ro by this time : fo fome Sectaries in our times are fal- len from one point to another, denying finging of Pfalms, denying all Prayers with others, denying all Preaching, de- nying the Scripture?, bringing in Love-Feafts, anointing the fick with Oyle, laying on of hands to give the gifts of the holy Ghoft, cum muhis aliis. 14. CoraL Hence then from all thefe Errors, Herefies, Blafphemies, Schifms, and ftrange Pra&ifes that are among us , we may fee the benefit and excellency of the Presbyte- rial Government, that prevents and keeps out thefe Mon- & Iters and Diforders, or if any of them begin to arife quick- » iy fupprefles them, and hinders their growth. Presbyterial Government as foon as an Error doth but peep out will findeit, and take it fingle before it grows into a body, and crufti it in the egge, before it comes to be a flying ferpent , which is made good by experience of it in all the Reformed Churches where tisfetled in power; Where have we ever read ofjor have found in the Church of Scotland, France, &cm fuch things as in the Independent Churches ? The like Er- rors, Herefies and Confufions as have grown up among us now within thefe four years,never grew in all the Reform- ed Churches fince the flrft Reformation. And who- ever will be further fatisficd of Gods blefling from Heaven, the Presbyterial way, withprefervation of truth, and unity of Religion againft Herefies and Schiims, let him read the csfntapology, or The full Anfaer to the Ayologcticd Tfar- rationy pag. ^97, 298, 290,300. only I will now give one teflimony of the Church of Scotland concerning the benefit and excellency of Presbyterial Government 9 which the A a Reader 178 -A Catalogue and Difc every of t Etf Ecccefia Reader may finde in the Preface to the Syntagme of Corfef. quo c\m vorncn w»*«»w *■#» »~™»- *j ***** *,*„,*** .,^«^..r»jW,»lw , l,J»ift tpud cateros bout the fpace of fifty jour jeers , more or leffe , it did without fuit celebre, fchifm or herefie fceep unity ^ith purity of Dotlrine, Vl0ii cir*iHT. And no v to put a period to this Book y I dtfire the good !!f!; G?,r~ Reader not to be miftuken, or offended at my freedom in fcifmitc, nediim tflis Book, in naming 10 many perfons, and marking bar eft, unit*- fume of them, or in my quicknefle and earneftnefle in the tem cum r-iri- rnanner oi f eaking things, as if I did it cue of bitterneffe and McdoStrina _ naffion , or cue of ill will and malice to rhe perfons of EL*, pr&f&tdc f^oi-^en ; no, icaniiy it truly mtne prefenceoiOod, tis confe'bion.in out of zeal to rhe truth of God, and companion to the fouls wipio Synt-.. of men dtftroyed by theft errours , proceeding aifo from fef p. 6. dd and feriOHs confide ranon of the difchargeof my duty : geneva* ^nd I can fay it truly of all thofe men whom I principally lay open , and give the people warning of , that 1 have hact nothing to do with them , and they have not wronged me at all, but as thty have wronged the truth3 and the glory of God ; and among all thefe notorious fe0^ j :}'r -\ dbjjfgs go i\ ee , bu; truiv ro vx'erce tiffj-f n *i <2 or nze of rtin^e hath --"•- n me to it, bur my rartftfifr care and I - . , : fche£ Foi trtere are : or:h. :-:•'• ; . know \vb*z kind' of r. :-;': W ; •' k \^hi'iCoiVc: a'zs (r.u zgtltiQ: then:, wii :;>o L ' j - t E fo no'^ ^kn a? their flocks many Errours eft he Sectaries. 179 flocks begun to be deftroyed by them, they then by letters and cryes have called upon us , con felling thofe things to be more then true, which before they had heard : I (£) am no: (b) Qdmn ignorant, chac it w4ii not be well taken by all, that I name injtruftioad- thefe rncr. But what ftiould I do when as I fee three or four w/" lfjn:u feducers , who do lead into definition many thoufands of c^6^/ men, miking it their dayly work to overthrow thetruih of God, to fcatter the poor Church, to fprcad abominable blafphemies, and to diftnrb the world with confufion; ought I to be Glent or dilTemble ? O how cruel ffnuld I be for the fparing or pleafing of fome , to fuffcr all things to be deftroyed and wafted, and not to warn men to rake heed. If I knew a way to be laid by theeves , were it nor my p. re to reveal it, that fo the travellers might not fall into tceir hands , ought I to conceal witches, who would con- fpire the death of the people ? Now there is no theft fo wic- ked , nor poyfon fo pernicious , as abominable Doctrine which tends not only to overthrow all Chriftian Religion, butalihoneftyand humanity ; (hall I therefore be filent? 1 am compelled therefore to make an outcry againft thefe mem There were never monflers more to be abhorM then Wrigh- terjVebJlkky Clarkson,znd their fellows ; (hould I fpeak a- . gainft the Pope and Papifts , and fpare them, who are worfe enemies , and do overthrow the truth more? For the Pope hath fome form of Religion,and doth not take away the hope of eternal life , (hews God is to be feared , acknowledges Chrift to be true God and man, gives fome authority to the Word of God : But to thefe men , this is their end , that they might mingle Heaven and Earth , bring all Religion to nothing, abolifli all learning , cauterife all mens con- fciences, and in the end, leave no difference between men and beafts. Now he who keepeth the feet of his Saints, keep us in thefe evils times from ail errours , and by his ho- ly fpirit, lead us into all truth, Amen% Amsn. A a z Poftfcript. i go A Catalogue and Difcovery of G POSTSCRIPT. Ood Reader, fnce that part of my prefent Boe1^ Was print- d off, Which contains the (fatalogue of the Errors, He* refits, BUfphemies, and Pratlifes of the Sectaries ^together With the Narrative of Stories and Remarkable Pajfages, there have come to my hand 'Books lately come forth 5 at alfo Relations from good hands ) informing me of more Errors ', Blafphemies, and ftrange ^pajfages of the Sectaries, fome Whereof 1 Will adde by Way of 'Poftfcript, namely, four other Errors not be- fore named) that I may make up the hundred and feventy fix, jujt a hundred and four f core, and afeW other Stories of 2{ote. Wir.SdltYTMfh I. Error. That the former by Which men Baptize, viz. / &noke in the Baptize thee in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the holy Temple, -p. 1 6. G ho ft, is a Form of mans devifing, a Tradition of man, and not a Form left by Chrift. Ibid. 2< tgfcdt:thtff Scriptures of Matth. 20. 10, Mark 16. 15. Go, and teach all Nation^Baptiaing them, are not under fiood of Baptizing With W ater, but of the Spirits Baptizing, or the Baptifm of the holy Qhoft ; and that the Baptifm of Chrift by led Vniformi- *ater '> ** onll in the Ndme °f lefw Chrift >- *** *f *** ty examined. Father, Son and holy Cjhoft, as is noW prafiifed. The Covenant * 3 . That the G off) el doth not more fet its fpirit againft any is cxprefly in thing of Antichrift, then againft this point of External unifor- tcrminu ,foi -u- mify in the Worfiipof God; and that uniformity is Antichri- Do&rin^wor- ft*an > and uniformity is a piece of the my fiery of iniquity ; 'Tit ihipjdifcipline the burden of the Saints , the bondage of the (fhurch, the and Govern- ftraightning of the Spirit, the limitting of Chrift, andthe ecclif- snent, and yet fmg t]oe glory of the Father. theres a Book . Chrift hath not promifed his pre fence andfbirit to Miniftert printed and- h- t J 7 / r J . / j j A L cenfed dire&ly more then to other believer s,nor more to a hundred,then to tWo or againft it3bran- three ; and iftWo or three in the Countrey being met together in ding it for the the Name of Chrift Jo ave Chrift him felf With his Word and Spu iigheft wicked* r'tt amm£ themjhey need not ride many miles to theAjjembly at nes.Thefemen Lon(jon foknoW What to do, or hoW to carry and behave them- wrL what f'^es wthe things of Godi wither fore for any company of men of + hey pleafe, What many Err ours of the Sectaries. 1 8 1 What refute foever^ to fit up their oWn judgement in a, Kingdom for a preremptory Rule from Which no man muft va*y>and to compel ait the faithful people of God to falldoWn before it, &c. is afar Worfe Wo? k in mj eyes then that of King Nebuchadnezzar fetting up a gol- den Image, and forcing all to fall doWn before it, feeing Spiritual Ido- latry is jo much Worfe then Corporal, as the fpirit is better then the flefh : The Spiritual Church is taught by the anointing, the Carnal Church by Councelf. On the 9. day of this prefent February, I Was informed for certain that one Co fens of Rochtftcv in Kent faid, that Jefus Chriffc Was a Baftard, and that if he Were upon the earth again, he Would be a fa- med of many things he then did, for Which Blasphemies, being proved again]} him by Witnejfest he Was put into Prifon at Rochefter ; but Tiiis Or- btingcommitted,at the Stffions there came an Order from feme in ^er was not place to the Recorder to releafe him ; upon the receipt of Which Order, K^ ^t **" the Reorder, a Ser giant at LaW, and a grave man, ufed theft Words, nor any Cofens, knoW you muft Jbortly come before another Court to anjWer Committee for thefe Words ,Where you fb all have no Order to releafe you: And noW °»r i^tlia- this man being at liberty , entertains in his honfe the Seflaries.that mcnt' come from London or other places into thofe parts, as Den, Lamb, Woodman, Who have preached in his houfefince ; and this Cofens is fo bold, that he dares threaten to queftion and trouble godly Orthodox Fresbyterial Minifter st and goes tofome of their Churches to fee if he can get any matter againfi them\ for example Joe hath gone to one Mr. Clares a godly Minifter, andthreatned upon hearing him to complain of him, and put in Articles againfi him. In Decemb. lafi,a little before the monethly Tafi, came doWn Mr. Den With Lamb to Rochefter, and fent to a Reverend Minifter of that place to have leave to preach ; but he denying it, Lamb came to move for his Brother Den, but the Minifter Would not give Way ; Whereupon in a houfe on the Faft day , Den preached to about eight- fearer fome Who came out ofToWns near hand, and fome Inhabitants : then he Went from thence to Canterbury, and came bad^alfoto Ro- chefter and preached again 5 in his travels alfo he dipped many, one of Which being of the ToWn of Chattam fell defp era* ely pek^upon it, but Whether dead or no, that I could not learn ; and aGentleWoman j cannot near Canterbury Was Dipped, (ofWhofe Dipping the Anabaptifts fay at the' boa ft much) that by Dipping fie Wat cured of an incurable difeafe. I fcaietime. Was. 1 8 z A Catalogue and Difcevery of Was informed alft for certain at the fame time, That Mr, Den u turned Carter, and goes to Cart, {holding that Erroneous opinion) that Minijhxs rnufi Work^ 'frith their hands , and follow fame Worldly calling ; and that Den hath driven a Cart upon lbs high Way to Lon- don, he Was fecn to do it and met upon the Way* Febr. 3. I Was informed for certain, that not long ago Oats an A" nibaptifi and fome of his jelloWs,Went their progreffe into Eflcx to Preach and Dip, and among other places they came to Billericey, and on a Tuefday at a Lctlure kept there, Oats and his company With fome of the ToWn of that Faclion When the Mini fier had done preach' ing, Went up in a body fome twenty of them (divers cf them having SWords) into the upper part of the Church , and there quarrelled With the Minifter that preached, pretending they Would be fatisfied about fome things he had delivered, faying to him joe had not preached Free- grace 1 but the Miniver one Air, Smith Replied, if they Would come to the place Where he dined, he Would fat is fie them, but it Was not a time noW to fpeak^, be fides that he Was fpent ; Whereupon thefe Ana- baptijls turned to the people, and f aid to them, they Were under *Anti< chrifl, and in Antichrifls Way ; for fay they, Antichrifts Way is fir ft to Baptize, then to believe and preach 5 but Chrifts "Way is, firfi to preachy next to believe, and then to baptize ; andfo they took^ occasion to fpeali to the people, and to preach univerfal Grace ,and other cf their Erroneous Dotlrines fir almofl an hour ; then after this they came up through the ToWn in a body together, divers of them having SWords, and carry ingthemfelves in folently 't and upon this occajion fome of the ToWn meeting them, and they falling out there Was a Ryot cemmit- ted, and fome of them being brought r# Chelmsford at a Sefpons it Was found a Ryot, and they Were proceeded againfi according to the Sta- tutes in that cafe. Agr. Peters, (ince his bringing the good 2(eWs of Tis fo re- taking Dartmouth, and his great reWardof a hundred pounds, and tWa latedbyth: hundred pounds a year given him , in Way of thankfulneffe Moderate hath improved his time till that he returned back^ to the Intelligen- Army , in Preaching againfi the Reformed Churches , the y could live quietly together; he all fetling fpake in a fliohtini "fray of the Reformed Churches, and of thofe Who °f Ch™& ^r^ Presbyterians , fanimgi Vtkats m the Reformed Cmrches ? Wrjats mem is in the (fhurche s of France, a I'm ie again ft -popery \ he fpzk? of the tyranny CitiesPnhlcr.ir:^ for fa ling the Government cf th: Churchy faying and bring* they were not fit- for Government , much leffe the Whole Land , and ma liuo Wi'l ye bring your felves into bondage} he fpake in a [lighting Way of the *¥*%' f A$*ribfy* andhoW one poortnxn in a C ounce I lyneW more then all gfocfit »en tbelearxea^Gcl-rs, and yet faith he , ] fpeafye -not agahfi Councels, js .Anarchy and p-'efently in the fame breath, faidy I never kneW 'any good they and ton- did: And then he Was upon Independents , Why pray may not an fin- *jl'icni. dependent be a Common Councel man} What is he, but an overgroWn » K r u^ preached js folios ,: namely , cf ever coming mountains, We had and ftand- overcome S^ruTord, 6* \.\# one mown tin ; &»#/? Petition forfooth , <*z»^ r^r \W// have this , and they Will beencou- »£$* r&rff-j and if ever this Kingdom be brought i*to bondage , We raged to maythanl* them Wit'hfuch like Words. Upon thefe and other Sermons perfevere preached ,. he Was complained of to 'the Court of Common Councel\ and grow and a Committee appointed by that Honourable Court, to examine t?J- m 1 and hear the proofs cf it. One M after H. a great Independent and for the Or-' flicker for that, pdi'tyyWai complained of iv the[Commm- Councel, thodox, (or faying to tWo Common Council r«eJ,%t'ely ftkjrfheKingjhe andagainft Scots, and the Common Councely ''did drive on one define. ,. *nc S^5' - Feb. 14. I bad an information fromgotid banas afjcrieil mtb much anfidaicc, bat lately fomefix or [even of Colonel Whakys. Regiment troopers , came to Wcl- ingborough in Northamptonflure,4«i ihcrci>rHoufcs preached to the people ffome c tljepeofetoU them, they faitMin-fficr cue Wader Andrews a nho vreMcd mud) 1 84 ^A Catalogue md Difcovcry of TVs Mr. mc!) a&din® lh &?s ; Th% replied they would take a courfc with him , and (me Andrews 0tlhc'nh^ring that he (uppel forth at a Parifhoncrs in tbeTmn, they way laid js a eodl y *nm > ai;d hc cominZ ^Gme rn *he nkht > tb$&kfid who wx there- ? be replied, 0 vc man well- Andrcws 5 *^»«*P^ my let ny at him , ^i difcharged a PiUol, upon which affected to ^M"*5 ****$£ ^c *» the dark fled away and. e(capcd them. The next morning fomefix the Par-liar ^ tbcm €mc [atbe Houfe b^'Jrc ^ WK u? > &nd ^xt ^^ f^rds and pislols (pan- meat. We V€d ' ^ ^wc ^*< ** ^c ^#or ^ */;e How/e » *w^ ^hcrs wm in witfy deir naked rrayfee f**frjfr «M p'fKr (panned, and running up Slairs, a woman at top of the Soars whatth- l^dcd •?*'i whereupon Matter Andrews being a bed, and fearing it might be Liberty of t'^\tT0^Qlui in **&/** ^ w nigh , left out of bis bed , Jhut the door upon Cerfciencc t^?em ' *ud got a chest to the door to make it good 5 whereupon one of them pcreei- istfetthefc vill&i fi,uc in tbedeor where it was joyned together , run his (word thorough tbz fin Would dm &*lf wiy> ^/c/f M*tier Andrews broke ', by this time there was a St. . if they &reat CTy ' ^ *% went mxy f'r far °f bein^ uh^n ; and M tity wm i>actpowcr * ^e Coill^le mct x^m > ^0 (pake to them of their carriage , upon which they room- and'tHeis' MbiM'% and a Collector to the Qownittee of Northampton coming alfo , they nor the fpi- bunbim,4frf' AN APPENDIX. love to man in fetting Qhrifl apoorfwfuU creature at hi* right hand, 3. That fin is nothing elfe but the Devi// ailing in our nature f roved by Luke 1 1. 21. 22. where the houfc is Qhrifts perfonall humane nature, and when Chrisl the fir ong man came into it he found the D evil/ in it, 4. That thrifts humane nature it not hypofaticallf unite a\to the Divine nature , for thefe Churches do not confeffe Gfyrift toic Cjody nay they earn e ft /y deny his Godhead, and affirm the Creed of Athanafius to be full of blasphemies. 5. They deny the Trinity .of per f on s in the deity and affirme that there is but one per fan in the Godhead for if there be three perfons there mufi needs be three Gods, and that Athanafius in his Creed doth blajpheame* 6. That a M'mifier baptizing infants is a falfe Prophet fpoken of in Ezechiel, tiho doth foft pillows under the peoples elbows. 7. That the Minifiry fhall utterly fall and be abolifhed,neither fhall there be difiintlion of Offices in the Church, but When thej . meet every member, either brother orfifter, mayfpeak^ as the fpi- rit shall give utterance. 8. That as Chrifl revealed a greater light then. Mo[es,fo they do and fhallreveal a greater light then ever Chrifl had. 9. That the letter of the whole. Scripture doth' hold forth no- thing elfe but a Covenant of Works , thus vilifying the Vehole Word of Cfod by the name Letter, and making their interpreta- tions to be the fpirit. 10. That to keep a confiant courfe in performing holy duties and to make ufe of theprefent oppertanity for the enjoyment 'of a Religious exercife, when )fre finde a dulneffe and unaptneffe in our J felves to put on a refolntion toflrive againfi andto breakthrough th* pre fent difficulty , andto fet upon the performance of the duty is utterly unlawful/. 1 1 . That the g/ory of the Saints hereafter (ball not be vifible, but they /ball by fome outwardexprejfionmanifeft one to another amonrft themfe/ves their inward joy. 1 2. That, there is no hell, or at Uafi no pain of fence in hell. Thefe AN APPENDIX. y$Y Thefe three opinions are moft ftoutly, though notfo generally maintained, yet the num- ber of them that are deluded doth excee- dingly increafe for want ofMinifters to un- deceive the people i who run after them apace, l.CT'Hat the Creator in the beginning did for the manifefiation of his own glory give forth of his divine effence a variety of formes and fever all fub fiances which We do call creatures, ft that god dothfubfifl in the Creatures, and hereafter the Whole Crsa» tion (hall be annihilated and reduced into the ^Divine e (fence a- gain. 2, Others affirm that the Word Chrift , and the Word Saint doth not fignifie any perfons but fome of the Divine effence infufed into fever all perfons , fo that Chrift and the faints (hall be faved, that is the Divin effence in thofeferfons (hall be reduced into God again, but the perfons fhall be annihilated, for the foul is mortall and the body (hall never rife from the dead, for even the body of Christ did never ri/e from the dead, but Was annihilated: the world [hall ever endure by Way of generation from time to time without an end, 3. That the Scriptures are not the Word of god but the eon* ceipts of men, and thai We are not to adhere to them, but to their Revelations therefore they (light the Word of God, When it is ur- ged to confirm a truth 5 for where it is f aid this or that was done according to the Scriptures, as 1 Cor. 1 5. 4» their reyly isy 7 hat is according to the vulgar opinion and conceipt of naturall men. . * Many other erroneous opinions in Do&rine they hold bcfides Difcipline, which I forbear to rehearfe, but you may gueffe at Hercules body by the length of his foot 5 God is come down Gg 2 we AN XfVZNDlX. we fee already to confound the language ©f thefe Bate 11 buil- ders thttWity underftartd not one aoothers fpeech, and I doubt not but that he will ftiortiy Scatter them, aid they (hall be as a fnail whrch meltetb. An Extraft of a Letter written Fek ip» I 6*4?. from a godly iliaifter in E'ffex to a Minifter in the City or Lindon. Our condition in thefe parts is very bad.Abafc but boWe&arift named Oats a weaver in London corns doWn,& vents a gallimau- fry ot Grange opinions, & draws great flocks of people after him without all controul. The Conftables of 'Booking did on the Lords day laft difturb them, going among them to preffe Sol- diers, and they u(ed them difpitefully, bad them gel tiY.-m to their fteple houfes,to hear their Popifh Priefts,their Baals Priefts. The tyde of Schifme runs ftrong,and as they brag is fed with a fpringfrom above. Certainly great hopes and incourgemtnts they have, tlfe durft they not be fo bold and infblene beyond meafure, as they are. They talk tnoft bafely of the Parliament and Affembly which many hear,and dare not appear to avouch, fo that they grow formidable. Our Magiftrates are afraid of them, onely a few Orthodox Minifters hazzard themfelvesto oppofe this torrent by their publike labours. Help us with your prayers as we do you, that God may inabie our fptrics againft the difficulties we have to encounter withalL IT you could be- llow a few lines upon me, that I might but hear of the courage andconftancyoftheMinirters and Citizens of London, upon whom we look no w next under the Parliament as the onely Inftruments of ourgood , I fhould be very thankfuil, who with my beft refpecTs rernembred will ever remain. Tour faithful/ anda (fared Friend. Febr. 26*. Two Citizens, godly undemanding men related to me for certain that one of the women preachers HxsAtta- Way fpoken of in this Book page 1 1 9. and who upon compla nt was queftioned by the Committee of Examinations for her preaching,was runaway with another womans husband, with whom AN APPENDIX. %%£ whom fhe had bin to familiar along time,butabout 1 4,days ago gone away and that bevond Teas (as is cotrrmohly reported,) This * man with whom (he is gone, w * s one of the Society and Company of which Mrs Atta^ay was- and one who ufed to hear her preach, he left his own wife great with child, befidts other children, and the poor woman (as 'tis reported) was ready to be diftra&ed, and Mrs Attawaj hath left her children behind too, expofed to the world at fix and feven, and convayed away all her goods that are any thing worth : It was told me alfo by one of thofc Citizens that 'tis given out (he met with a Prophet here in London, who hath revealed to her and others that they mall go to Jerufalem, and repair J «*rufakm, and for that-end Mrs Attaway hath gotten money or £ )me perfons, en pounds of one yong maid, and other money of others co ivaj ds the building up of J erufalem : Thefe two godly Citizens not long agoe uKonoccafion of hearing that Mrs Attaway preached, went to confer with her, and to diflwade her f om preaching , and comming thither there were four or five meu with her wherof one of them was this fellow (he is now runaway with, and thefe Citizens fpeal ing with her, one of her Company a Se- nary faid to her Sifter fptake not to thefe men for they are in the flelli, and (he difcourfing with them, either the fame man or another faid, Sifter fpeak no more to them for thev being in theflefli you willbut prtach them the more into the flefo. I have been W'thin thele few dayes from good hands infor- med that in this laft week of February there have beenfome meetings of Sectaries in the City to confult and to draw up feme Petition to the Parliament to counter worke the Com- mon councel, and their confukations and debates w^re to this effect that feeing the Common- Councel and the Scots agree fo together for fertling Church-Government, and that now new Votes and Refolves of both Houfes are come forth to fettle the Government of the Church, it was needfull for them t » do fomething and to prefenta Petition to the Parliament which might confift of thefe heads, i. That the Pa liament would not take the fenfe of the Common- councell for the fenfe of the City but look upon them as two or three hundred men, and G g 3 not *£* AN AP pENB IX. not what they petitioned anidefired asthefenfeof the City. 2. That the Parliament would take the Militia of the City into their own hands.j.That theCity might not keep any correfpon- denceor intelligence with for rain ft a tes,for they for their parts difclaimed it-4.They would not as fom others lay any blame up- on the Parliament for not fettling theGoverment of the Church all this while, or tax them with ddayes, but thanked them for their deliberation in proceedings about the Gpvernment of the Church, and left them to their own time to fettle the Govern* ment of the Church according as it might (band with tender confciences. Thefe and fome other things for the matter of the petition were propounded and fpoken of, fome jneved that in their Petition fpeaking about the Government of the Church, they fhould put in to fettle it according to the word of God; another in the company moved that it might be with refped to tender confciences and faii he loved not that expreflion accor- ding to the word of God. Now for the way of managing this Petition that it might take and do the work,thefe things we are propounded to get to it 40, or 50, thoufand hands,and for that to draw in and get the hands of the Malignants to the Pe- tition, to draw in many moderate Presbyterians, and to get the hands of all thofe that keep feparated meetmgs,to fend the Pe- tition to their feverall meetings to be fubicribed : I have had fome of the names of the perfons that met about this bufinefle related to me, but I forbare to name them; and as a further te- ftimony of the truth of this Relation, I have been told it from more hands then one, befides the fubftance of this hath been difcovered and made known to fome in Authority in the City. 1 have had lately given me from a fure hand the Copies of two letters taken from the Originall letters, and compared by a Minifter with the Originalls , one of William lenney to his wife , fince he went away wirh Miftris Attatoay the lace woman,and the other of Miftris AttaVoay to williamlenney be- fore his going away, both which I had thought now to have printed verbatim,but becaufe they are to large, and cannot with the reft of the matter in this Appendix be brought into a fheet, I (hall AN APPENDIX. w. fliall only give the Reader a hint of fome few things : In his let- ter to his wife dated Feb. 15. he writes thusofr the reafons of his going away. / thought good write unto you thefe feW lines to tell you that becaufeyou have been to me rather a difturber of my His wife could body andfoule, then to be a meet helpe for me ( but I file nee ) not bear nor And for looking for me to come to you \againeyIfball never £** wclL his come. to jou agame ay more. I/hall fend unto you never no an(j |ay with more concerning any thing. If you had been a kind Yeoman unto me Mrs AW.way I (bould never have parted With you, but God direftyouand keep but fp,fce a- you as one of his Creation, and in that refpeft Idefire you to be £amft ll> and , ,. ;• as 1 ■ ■ ■ this was the looking up to fom jour Maker „ difturbancc FareWcJL Y> ur rnend Willam feeney. he complains Mrs* Attaway in her letter to J .nney Writes thm. \ of, and the Deereft Friend and Welbeloved in the Lord, I am furrerings unfpeakeably forrj in refpeU of thy Offerings , / being the ^kf^v objeQ that oc caponed it >hoW fba.Ul ever be able to anfWerit, I need fuch love , / [ball de fire to dedicate my fpirit to the Lord, to feeke him in thy behalfey that he Would be pleafedto fet thee at liber tie , in the me ane time that he\\>ouldbe pleafed to bare up t thy fpirit quietly under it : me thinks thy fufferings jhould be al- x^* ^* are mo ft at the highefl they are fo great , when the people of Ifraels gather they bondage Was greateft, then the fame day the Lor d deliver ed them are delivered, tt^ftf lehofapnat knew not Vvhatto doe he looked to the L*>rd> let us looke to him, beleeving confidently in him With the faith xnjs Mrs At- of lefts , and no que fi ion but We fh all be delivered, in the meane taway hath a feafon I (hall give up my heart and affe [lions to thee in the Lord, husband in and whatfoeverlhaye or am in him Which ts our head , thou (halt ^ Arn-75and command it jn the mean feafon While thou art abfentl jhall refl in f . /^ the poffejjion of thy love Which I fha.ll not be fo injur us as to que- women prea- fti$n. That dram of love that is given me thou haft it freely que* chcrs are, thus ftion it not. So committing thee into the bofome ef that loving to wr'tc c© a- hjndneffe that hath redeemedthee 1 reft. ™l*r w°' A Citizen related it to me that he imploying one L.D. a Seda- anTnow'to^o of Lams Church, to work for him gold and filver wyer, he away toge- hath made away his worke to the vilue of about 12, ther' pounds, and is himfelf gone away too about the Countries he knows not where:but Lam the preacher is bound for io.pounds worth of this gold and filver upon whom he will come. This Citizen ^ AN APPENDIX. Citizen wis unwilling to have imployed Mm, but he did fo Sirotefthishonefty and faithfulaeff? and »old this Citizen that kith he I have fuch Revelations and new light as never man had, and doe you thinke I will be difiioneft. ThcfameCitizentoldmeheimpUyed three women as fpin- nersforhimof gold and fiivcr, which being Sectaries and of Lams Church (as I remember > are wont to (pin on the Lords day which defeating did on pu^pofe upon a Saturday night lute fetch away all the worke they had wrought off* and comming igaine on Monday morning found they had done a good dayes worke, and inquiring in the Houfe of it, others in the Houfe (aid it was ordinary with them to work on the Lords day and he talking with them, they faid they knew noSabboth, nor no fuch day, every day was alike to them, and one as good as an- other* 1*4* Ff ^CJS ■ Reader, THou art prefented with the Second Part of Gangrmay de- claring fome other (not infirmities of the Saints , as fome men fpeak, but) abominations of men of corrupt minds , repro- bate concerning the Faith,, and a vindication of thofe few parti- culars of the former Treatife ,. which were excepted againft; The Author hath proceeded in this Labour, not to pleafehim- felf(what pleafure can it be to rake in a Dunghill?) but to preferve thee ;. The difcovery of Errours is, (by the biefling of God) the prevention of them, in which regard the Labours of a Epipha,-- r/iHsy b nAuguftine, c ?hiUftriwr d Theodoret^ of old^ of e Qal- a Adverfus fure* b Adquodvulc c De hxrcfibus. viny f T>aniis, and others of late , publifhed for this end, have ^Hseretieamoi. Eabuhrum. e Contra liber- tinos Anabapci- {iaSjlervetum, f De Hardibus. been, and are of great efteem in the Church of God ; And I make no queftion but thefe Labours of this Author, as they now find acceptance with judicious and godly Chriftians, fo alfo in future times will out-live the calumnies by Sectaries call: upon them, and our pofterity will admire,, what is by us underva- lued; Let not clamours of men, who call light darknefTe, and darknefle light, difcourage thee from reading, it doth not mee from approving that this Treatife be imprinted, Imprimatur James Cr an ford. The Second Part OF GANGR^ENA: O R A freflh and fur therDifco very of the Errors, Herefies,Blafphemies5and dangerous Proceedings of the S £ c t A R i E s of this time. As alfo a Particular Narration of divers Stories, fpeciall PafTages, Letters, an Extra&of fome Let ters5all concerning the prefent Sects : Together with fome Corollaries from all the fore-named premifles. A REPLY to the mod material! exceptions made by Mr5 Saltwarjh, Mr Walwyn, and £«/**//>, againft Wf. Edwards late Book entituled Gangrina, As alfo brief Animadverfions upon fome late Pamphlets 5 one of W. Bacons, another otThomas jf yet- by the good hand of God that was with mee in that weri^ I kgep the field till this day^neither they nor any for them (not- withfianding all the great threats given ouf) having yet en- gaged againfl mee in that caufe. Now in this prefer, t boofyy conftfting partly of a Reply, 1 have to do with Three, a three- headed Cerberus, the three-bodied monfier Geryon : The Apologifls were fair fwooih menin comparifon of theft, their voice was the voice of Jacob \ but thefe are hairy, roughs wilde red wen^efpeciall) Cretenfis: Thefe are grown higher^ are gone farther^ and are more daring then tM firmer \ and yet 1 doubt not but he that then brought me off with fsfety. and honour tco^ will al\o new fl and hy me?n and having deli* vered mee from the lion and the leary thefe uncircumcifed Philiftims, efpecially Goliah Goodwin fiull be as one of A them* TotheChriftian Reader* — ■ 1 — 1 _ _ ,u.. — ., - & them i WhUefl ■ I was making this Reply, had even finiffiedit> flriking off this three headed Cerber&s, new heads of that mon- flrousHydra ofSe$arifmfl>rung upj&hich the Reader aljojhall find have their deaths wound too in this prefent Boot^ and jtt after all thefe heads cut ojf^IexpeCt a great red Dragon having fcven heads, aud f even horns, and feven crowns up" on his heads; but let as many Sectaries come forth aswill^ I Jhall fing with David, PfaL 27.3. Though an Hoft fhould encamp againft me5niy heart (hall not fear: Andbefides my Reply to the Anfwers made againfl my Book^ mtituled Gan- grxn&,the Reader flj all find in this Book^more worh^for the Sectaries, the Second Part ^/Gangr^na; a Difcovery of more Errours7 Herefies} BUfyhemie^ and Proceedings of the Seda* ries, wherein I have not only hid down many Err our s^ Here- fies 1 and Proceedings of the Sectaries not touched before, but fome greater \ flranger, higher Herefies and Blafphemies, and feme that are more againfl the fecond table, anddeflruCtive to the civ ill Lawes and peace of Kingdoms, which SeSaries in their pleading for Tolerations feem to exempt out of the number ofErrours to be tolerated ^ yea, Idejirethe Reader to take notice there are fome things jpoken of in this prefent Book,, fome Blafphemies, &c\. done by Sectaries, that the like or worfe are not to he found in any age fi nee the coming of Chrifl, nay 1 thinly not ftnee the Creation of the worlds as that * Vi^j^i^Btafphemy of one * John Boggis. Now that the Reader may of this prefrnt the more profit by this work,and not flumbleintheEntrance, ?°°,k' «T* I faall vremife three things whereby to remove a- few prem- dices that may be in the minds of jome men, both againfl the matter and manner of this Book^ 1 Tis obje&ed}The bringing upon the ft age matters offaCt7 <& the practices of fome men againfl a way, is not a right courfe to convince a way to be naught, nor the followers of it of their errourS} To the Chriftian Reader. . erronrs : Arguments and Reasons are the way to fat is fe men. Anfw. I have fpoken to this Objection in the firfi part of Gangnen:i;pag.76. and the Reader may finde more fatdtojt m this fecond pari* pag. 79,80. find therefore that which 1 (Jjalify here is this* Such difccver/es as thefe0 area more fenfihk praBicall n\ty of confutation of the StQaries to the body of the pio^le of the Kingdom e0 thenfo many fyllogifm.es and arguments^ they can underpaid the fevrhen they camiot perceive an argument \ and Chrifl hiwjelfe, in fpeakjng a- gainjrfalje prophets frith. By their ftuits you ihai! know them : Doe men gather grapes of thoms3 or figs of thi- rties ?&c. And the Apofles in their ^peaking a gainfi the He- reticks and herefies oft heir times ^ confuted ihzm thus by their praSices andwajes: Whcfo ever does hut obfervetheptjfa- ges in the EpiftlesofVnzx*]ufefim\:.fidlfinde this true. And whereas tisf aid by fime of them ^ if they would do fo by the Presbyterians, thy could floor? as many Erronrs held by fome Presbyterians , mid as badpractifes^ &c> and fo re- . criminate. lanfwersfuppofe they couldy 1 Xei there s not the fame reafon in divers nfpeUs • but I will onely give one in- fiance 3 namely this difference : 7 he Anabaptffls^ Indepen- dents 5 dv. have their Church way and government up, they are in the pra&iceand pojfeffwn of ity they may ufe it 3 and dototkentmoftSo ftpprejfe Erronrs, Scandals^ in the power of cenfareSj in admitting of none but whom the body alhwes^ <&c. and yet in the free pr&Sfife ofit^ and under it, all the f Erronrs %*&w, and men fatt from one thing to another ', as all men fee • but now thofe who are in their judgement for Pref* byteriun Government in this VLingdomejhey enjoy it not., have not the bene ft of it to cenfure fcandalow perfrns\fuppre(fe a- -ay Errors, or to do any A$s ofGovertment at all,but all lies wajfe. 2. 1 deny that the Sectaries canfi&w men who an A 2 Preshyte<* To theChriftian Reader. Vresbyttrians^tkongh they want the benefit vf the Government) that fall into thofe Erreurs y Blafiphemies^ Vra&ifes which the Sectaries doe^ tfc a meer flouri(h7 they can fhow no fitch things nay^ 1 am confident that among all thePresbyterian Jsliniflers and cheife members who hcve appeared and acted for thai wayyfince Presbperiansjhe Sectaries cannot inflame 7 none manlike tol>undreds and thou fands of their Se3ariesy either for Err ours in judgement \ or loofeneffein life. 2 . 7 is cbjtSed its an unchrifiian way to bring mens names upon theftagejis to much tofpeak againft a way from thePra- ctifes of fome of that way^ but to name men in pint \ and publikly to brand them^ this is worfe. Anf. I conldgive ma- ny dnfmrs to jnftipt thU3 and fiow the examples both ofiFa~ thers andtheholttft^ \ndicioufeU moderne Writers who pra- cticed thist as Calvin in his Tractate againfi Libertines* naming Quintinus, &c. and giving reafons there by way of Avfoer to this very objecion of naming menjbut 1 cannot now infifl upon it: all I will fa) is this, for my own part tis much againfi my genius and temper to do it> for naturally I do not love to offend any> or to contend with any man% but to comply andplesfe all^ befides^ Iamfenjible of the hatred^ reproaches^ dangers! am liable t a for doing it 3 bat a neceffiiy is laid upon me to preferve the people^ and to give them warning to beware of wolves infijeeps clothing • and as 1 holdmyfelfe boundin confidence to write Bookj to dif cover the err ours and opinions of finch wayes^fio to name the perfions of prime noto- rious SeUaries who a?e flick lers, (not of all men who are mi f- led, or in fome kffer matters miflaken) and that from the ex ample of the ApcfihPxA^ who doth not onely name the errours7 wayes> but the men themfehes^ as Hy meneus, Phi- letus3 Alexander, PhygelluSj Hermogenes3 i Tim.*., *2>20, 2Tim.2.i7. 2Tim.i8i4,i5.&4,i4,i5. 3> M- To the Chriftian Reader. 3 .Let no godly per f on be offended at mj Book f f the fiile of it he quick and f mart > and if I [peak fometimes a little fioarply ^Crecenfis^ but rather let them confider how unworthily {not onely unbecoming a Chriftia?% but a man) hee hzth dedlt withmee and all Preibyeerians in his Anjwer^ dij 'covering fuch unfufferable pride, drrogancie , fcornfulnejj'e offpirit towards all Presbyterians who fall not dtvs>n to the golden calves of his opinions of Imputation of faith ^Independency > &c. as that there feems no way left to recover him but to deal a little roundly with him^ andlay open hk folly \ befider, the A po file Paul fpeeking of theCretians, vvhoarealvvayes lyars foith 3 Wherefore rebuke them fbarpiy, that they may be found in the faith. In one word, Cretenfis in all his Anfwers ktoo lifyethofe fpokenofin 2 Sam. 23^. that Muft be thrufl away as thorns ^ becaufe they cannot be tahgn with hands : the man that mufi touch him had need be fenced with iron andthefiaffe of a (pear: Cretenfis is a man fo foul- mouth* d in all kind of filthy language, that his maid hid need fcowr his mouth alwayes with a wifp when he goes to write any Book^Butto hold the good Readerno longer in the porch Jet me earnefil) intreat th) prayers to God for his gracious ajfifiance^ •prote8ionyfupporting of him who is refohedto fpend and Be fpent3 and to run all hazzardsfor the truth of God and his Churches againfi the err ours of the times \ yeaDaad if he be offered up upon thefacrifice and fervice of your faiths he joyesj and will rejoyce. thine in Christ % Thomas Edwards, THE THE P KEF ACE, THE PREFACE. Christian Reader ^ 5P L though there be already at the Prefle a foil Reply to the pretended Anfwers imde by Mx.Sdimarff^Mr. IValnyn^aiid Mx. John Goodwin i againft my late Book entitufed Gdngrsna^y ea, and feme part there ofprinted^yetconfidering net only tile three bodiedMonfter Geryon&nA the three headed Cer- fcrusvjhich for prefent I have to grapple and conflxi with- alljbut that Hydra alfo^ready torife up in their plsce.there- fore that I may both mortally wound the heads of thefe .Dragbns, and cm off others as they are fpringing* and {hike or ce for ali in defence ofGazgrena: my Reply can- not but he fbmewhat large, and fo of neaffitymuft take up more tvtm for theperfefting and publifliing of it "(efpe- dally confidering my imployinents in frequent conftant preaching3befides all other occafions) then at this timel am conten ted to be kept from coming abroad in Print. And therfore for preventing the Seftarks glorying, and triumphing to much in their Anfwers, ard their poflefiing many people againft my Book , as if it were a Book of lies, andthat I could not make proof of, or give a good account to the world of what I have written 5 as alfo from interpreting myfilence (though but during a time fimplynecefliry to give a full Anfwer) a repenting of writing my late Book and a retreating from that caufe wherein 1 have fo much appeared (as Mr. Wdwyn the preface, a wdwyn Teems to do) I have .thought is neceflary inaAxvord m_- the Interim, till my larger Reply can come Fortfa9t.o{fec»Mr.-&Aw^~ forth a few fheets to declare my mind to all the world, and f'^X^S to take away all juft occafion frommen of fpcaking againft 3SSM S mv late Book : Now this Book being of the fitne nature \ &*?**&& V *"*%' m-'v i -r * r /* Something witli and kind with Gangrana, bendes a breir Aniwer toiome you towards a main Objections made againft it , is not only an Addition mJf and ^ of more Errours to the former Ca:alogue, a higher Difco- Jf^S yST very of the waves and Pis&ifes of the Sectaries, a further rf tbe fvi- J OJ confirmation of the truth or things contained in Gangr£r*aypM&™?> .you? but an afifurance to the Reader .of my Fvefoludon and Con- ?fee°tfg. 1 o 1 . /. 3 1 , 3 2 . y. of the wo- man, pag. io<5\ /. 1 8. for preached r. prayed. p'ljj'ly* for Wright f. brighter, p. 1 3 9 -l. 1 2 . 7. fo to that purpofe. pag- iff. I- 14* /^ the r. are- />.i 8 5 . /. 1 6. for where r. whither. I EDDDDDCCCDODDCCCDDCDDDDDCCCDDBOBODDBDCEDilODDE DDOODaDOODGODUDJBBDDUD03DOIOflDBDDOOBgOBffOili700000flOB< f — _; A Frefti and further DISCOVERY OF THE Errors and Pernicious Pra&ifes of the SECTARIES in England. Avinglaid down in my Book entituled Gang?*- na> 1 80 Errours vented in thcie times, betides an Addition offome Errors mentioned in the Appendix, and not enumerated in the for- mer Catalogue. I do here further prefent the Reader with a Catalogue of more Errours not before named neither in the firft, nor fecond Edition of my Book : As alio a Relation of more Stories and Pra- ttifes of the Se&aries , together with fbme new Letters concer- ning them 5 by all which it will appear that the plague of Se<5h- rilme rages more and more, putting forth Symptoms prefaging death and deftruftion both to Churcti and State, if not timely pre- vented. AdditionM Errours^ the former Catalogue of Err. ours, Heresi Es3dv. i^pHatno Opinion is fb dangerous or Heretical as that of com- A pulfjon in things of Religion, B 29Tban A further Difcovery of the Errours iltmarjh How1 s. That Kingly government among Nations and Common- wealths is unlawful!, an i that for Kings it cannot be faid to v uietheyferve, or that there is any ufe of them, except to debauch and vexe a people* 3. It is unlawfull for Chnftians to eat any Swines fieft, in f e~ gard theDivels once entred into.* he heard of Swine, 4: 'Tis unlaw full to eat any manner of bloud in any kind of thing whatfoever, and that Black-puddings are unhallowed meat, and that the eating, of Black-Puddings is a barbarous cuftome. |. That the Divels never finned, nor have any iinne. 6. That Judas, C/in^ and all the damned., yea all the Divels "(hall be laved at laft- and that there are no hell torments to eto> ingsofCbrifts IlitV. U6\id.$ag.d4, ^ Chrift bath-repented perfectly he hath furrowed forfinne perfectly, and he hath repented for us> 8 . Faith is not to be the guide of Reafon, but Reafon the guide of Faith, nor is a man to beleeve any thing in Scripture , further rhcn he fees Reafon to induce him., o. That children of beJeevers have more then a- federal! hoi h xiefle3 an inward reail holineflb. 10. Chrifts pretence in Heaven, or that Chrift is prefent in Heaven, cannot be proved by the Scriptures.. 11. Some of: the Sectaries do- .affirme and hold they have not / had Revelations, but they have" feen Vifidns alfo. 12. The means of Gods revealing ■ himfelf and his mind and vUl to his fervants in reference to their felvation, is immediatly / hirnfelf, without Scripture, without Ordinances; Minifters5 or any other means. I • 13* Ihatrfe unlawfull to give thanks toGcd after meat re- ceived, though it be lawfull to' do it before eating of meat, . 1 4.' That iinging of Davids F ia! ms fs Llafphemy , and .telling of lies. 35. That there Is no ]uihnc:v Faitfe, but Faith is \Qv man inflation of our jbftificat i< 1 a. That Repentance is a work of the -law,- and' to not to be performed by Chnftians 5 and that Chnftians haye nothing to do at all but only to fit- ftill, -hear and bele«- • S& S< l That fame Beleevers are as perfeft here, as ever they fl . Heaven, only they to rot fee the Lord here with their I : lyeyesv ^fthis matter, namely for the enumera- S from ^ °na ! W** E^ a^e only this which 1 refcei- with fc eeAm°ata-31 a S^Wwifter, who having convex fe^"rat "eSouldicrs and Troopers, gave me £..1 ' ^ u3' "P?'? aT^it.on propounded by mewh-t ftrange opinions do they hold. They hold (faith he ) ye»/ of Ptfer/ Par i^ brought forth two chil- dren both dead , the one a perfeft child, the other was born with- out a head, having upon the bread fome characters of a face, nofe, and and P raft ifes of the Sectaries. and eyes, wanting one arme, and the other arme being rarher the ftunipofanarme,endedincrotchoftwo finger?, with fomething lik a thumb coming out of one fide of ic : Downward one of the feet was perfect., the other foot wanted a heele, and had onely two toes which grew forward, and another toe growing our of one fide of it. TheFatherofthismonfterisa Separating frequenting theirCongregations,an enemy to the bapizing of his own children; the Mocher a hearer in the feparated Congregations likewife, who refolved heretofore, that if ever (hee had any more children, they fiiould never be baptized. This Relation is affirmed by thofe of truftand undemanding, that faw this Monfter, and know the parties. ______________ __ ______ ._______««»._______»______.._____„____ *ThisCo der is not in the ~j s% w ft nice ot the An Extras of a Letter fent me from a * Commander t^^\^t°hX! now intfa Parliament ferviceJatedDecemb.ig. 1645. s'imen» °f th?c r ''• Army, under the command of Sir §1? %:omjt Fairfax, THeconftant pra&ifes of many Officers and Souldiers with fcj0 another part them, was to exclaime againit their Minilters wherefbevfr oftneKingdom. we marched, preffing them and their adherents more then any o ther; they did difcourage the people, generally affirming that the beftof our Preachers were Popim, and that it was unlawfull to ^ hear them, but did hope to fee them all * patt to Rome, and their berty c?con&l (uperftitious Steeple-houfes puid down to the ground $ great va- encescaarks w.i riety of opinion was amongft our Officers and Souldiers, fome po^. c affirming that they had had Revelations and feen Viiions, all of them at liberty to argue and hold what phantafticall opinion they pleafed, thofe were the men mo ft countenanced, and fooneft raited to preferment; fbme of them would take upon them to prophefie, faying, they (hould live to fee all lording power laid a(ide in this 13 Kingdom} In my diftrefle when the enemy was upon me , I fent to moft parts adjacent for aiTirtance,but could have none, only from one place came to me forty Volunteers, with fbme two or three Officers, profefling themfelves all Independents, and they told n:e they hoped to find me fo, and if I mould continue ftili in my opinion for Presbytery, they thought their labour ill fpent; B 3 sfoy A further JDifc&very of the Ertours . they (laid with me all night, and, the next- day there came to them a Lieutenant, a raoft dangerous fellow, maintaining nioft hor- rid opinions, asyounuyiee by the iaformation which is truth $ Relation this Lieu j c preach en tjrem in a private houfe. which f ' ;ohthey:tookveryillof^^eJ tne£ an. I irnmediatiy they ' , and marched away with Lieace- nant*— — . Silicone of the chief ";rn me word by our Quarter- matter, that I mould hi .iapay,folon*»as I (hid in — — — -if I did not agree and yld^vjiih— — -I fmde .the menage too true,. Cor I fiade little pay or none, Sir, I could % much more of thei? gra 1 me and others, but I mould be too tedious;but this morel '& . id ' c/orr^Tchedwherel heard more talk of godlineffe, obfer- vation, for they are cruel! wlthei ... fure^prdfeiTing telf-dehial, yet leave nc . . . 1 ■ ■-■• their cftates and honcurs.'TheLord prevent tteir 1 and keep this Kingdoms from being mined by fueh a -wicked peo- ple, Sir, I rei:: Tour ftrvtnt A Heldiion of feme faffqges of a great SeSiarie5 4 Lh& tenant about the beginning oflaatlaff^i 645. HAving had much arguing with him and his adherents in op- pofition to the Ancinomian way, In the morning wherein they ieemed to glory much in the victory , though I know no caufe for it at all : The Lieutenant camecourteoufly towards even:ng to my houfe (as he faid) to take his leave of me 5 which (orae of his party . perceiving, followed him ; and others takin 3 of their re- iort, followed alfb .• The (ubjecl: of our £ was about the means of God revealing hirnielf^andhii; mind and Will to bt&fejr- vants in reference to their falvation ) He affirmed &ud maintained violently that God did it -immediatly byhimfck,, without Scri- pture, without 0rdinances3 Miniders, or any other means 5 He being asked about the third perfbn in the Trinity3 denied there was andPraBifcsof tbeSeSarrec. any (ucfa thing as Trinity of perform bat affirmed them to be three Offices; and being demanded what he thought of Chrifi. whether the Godhead and manhood were united in one perfon in Heaven :• He anfwered only to the laft word, and denied that ir could be pro- ved by the Scriptures Chrifts prefence in Heaven; and when fome Scriptures were produced, which had reference to.his Refurre&i- on and Aicenhon 9 he replied, that it was a great queOion, whe« cher rherewas a Refere&iorj or not; he faidhe did not deny it abfolutly, but chat he made a great queitionof it: Ac the parting, before him I replied to the by-ftanders9Genclerrjen, if I fliould have come and cold you that this Gentleman had denied the Trinity of perfon s, and Chriits presence in Heaven, and that he cald in que- iiion the Refurre&ion, you would not have belee* had not your own ears heard the fame. Thisisattcftedand fubferibedby the hand of a godly Minifterin whofe prefence all this was fpoken, together with a Rela- tion of the names of the other \yitnefle£ perfons of quality and worth, who were all prefent at this Difcourfe. and I have the Originall in my power to produce upon any oc- A Relation of fome Stories^ and remarkable Fafja* ges concerning the S E c T A k i e i THere is one Lawrence Ctarkfon* a Seeker, fpoken of in my Gangr£nj*pagt 104, and 105. who put forth a Pamphlet called The Vilgrimageoj Saints, wherein are many panages highly dero- gatory to the Scriptures, denying them to be the rule of a Chriiti- an, or that in Doctrine or PracVife half of Gods glory was revea- led as- yet;- this man aTaylor and a Blafpbemer preached on the Lords day, March the eighth3at Bowe-Chnrch in fbeapfide^ in the • noone:.He began his Prayer to God, with Right Honourable Lord God, and in his Prayer he prayed that God would bleUe the Kings Army, and bieffe the Saints both in the Parliaments^, and the Kings, his Sermon was a Rapfody of nonfence, This was no? 8 A further Difcovery of the Errottrs not done in a corner, but in a great and full Audience 5 there was prefent at this Sermon one Member of the Houfe of Commons, if not mere, befides divers other perfons of quality; and though this Clarkfon was in London Come time after this , and may be ftill for ought I know, yet was he never queftioned, nor called to any account for this, or for his Pilgrimage tf Saint j, as ever I could learn, Saturday, March the feventb, a Minifter who preached at c#i>« tins near Whiu-HaU^xoXA me,that lately fince my Book came forth, he preaching in a Sermon againft fin and the Divell, a woman on the morrow came to him fa Nurfe- keeper dwelling in Clan ftreet) and queftioned with him about his Sermon, asking him his grounds for fpeaking of finne and the Divell, the Minifter brought lbme places ofScripture,(hee flighted the Scripture, and denied there was any fuch thing as finne, or Hell, or the Devil!, or tempta- tion, or the holy Ghoft, or Scriptures-, fhee faid, all the Hell that was, was the darknefle of the night; fhee denied that to kill a man, to commit adultery, or fteale a mans goods was finne; and the Minifter asking her, what do you make your felf, (hee anfwered two feverall times, Jam that lam 5 All this, and a great deale more was related to me by the Minifter, who (as he fold) had acquain- ted an Earle with it, and many others; and I (pake with one Citi2en who beard this Relation from him, and he promifcd to give it me at large in writing under his hand. Tuesday March 17. on the day that a- Committee of Lords and Commons came down to Gudd-Hall to the Common-Councell concerning their late Petition; many Sectaries from all parts of the City and Suburbs, came to Guild-Hall, where?, from about four a clock, till aboutnine,the Sectaries in feverall companies and knots in the Hall, 3 0. 40. and more in fome companies, vented boldly, and pleaded for all forts of opinions, the Antinomian opi- nions, the Anabaptifticall opinions,&c. pleading for a generall To- leration of all Se&s, yea fome maintained that no immortall fpiric could finne, or be capable of finne; and it being objected, what fay you to the Divels? they denied the Devils ever finned or could fin: many other horrid opinions were maintained at the fame time, Co that 'tis beleeved,that never fince Guild-HaUwtt builr,there was fe much wickednefleand errour broacht and maintained openly in it as a nd Prafttfes of the Seftaries. i as ac that time. Among many godly orthodox Chriftians, who were at that time in Guild-hall, and oppofed the Se&aries in their pleading thus for all Errours, and a generall Toleration j there was one godly Citizen who told me thisftory of himfelf, that he reafoning with feverall of the Se&aries againft their opinions, and againft a Toleration, the next day being the eighteenth of March > anlndependent Wollen- Draper to whom he had workt alrnoft 20 yeers, took away his work from him, and faidhe mould have no more work of his, becaufethe night before this Citizen had argu- ed againft Independency, faying it was a Schi/me 5 whereupon this Citizen dealt plainly with this Woollen-Draper, and told hirr^Sir, will you put me by my work,which is my living, for my conference? is not this Perfection ? will you have your consciences, and mall not we enjoy ours? would you be tolerated, and will not youtc« lerate us? On the ninteenth of March a Pamphlet cald The lajl waruhgta all the Inhabitants of the City of London ,came abroad in Print,which Pamphlet /peaks againft all Kingly government, receiving the King in again,and againft all eftablifhed Eccleliafticall government, befides many other dangerous paflages in it : Now this Book was fpread and difperfed up and down by Se&arics, as for inftance,one Samuel Fulcher an Egge man^e-baptized by one Crab a Felt-maker, was the 21. day otOMarcb examined before a Juftice of Peace for * All Knd of (preading this Book call'd the laft warning to Lmdon, and confeffed g^s^hat he had fold fix or (even of thern. * One Overton an Independent makc any ways Book- feller and a member of Mailer John Goodwins Churchy for the Sefts, or his man for him,fbld many of them to feverall perfbns as I can and againft provejOneCaWfa Seftary and a Book-feller on Ludgate^iW ^fo^fhis fold and difperfed many of thefe Books ; and (bone Barber an A- faonmdusgl- nabappift boafled two dayes after the Book came forth, naming ven ' out i£e this Pamphlet, that there was a Book come forth had cut the man feisr them, leggesofthe Presbyterian government, and asked a Citizen if he MCanot: *c had not feen'it. MaUr* In Northampton-ihire* great Se&ary, and a chief fervanc to a Knight of that Country, would not keep the day of Thankfgiving for the victory at lUfihy, but was fo farre from keeping it himfelf, thatlie would not fuffer the Knights tenants to keep it, or to goto C Church. I o A further Difccvtry of the Errours Church, but made them carry dung all day, as I have been in- formed from one who knows it certainly; but what do I relating one inftance, when as 'tis notorious that many of the Sectaries, (Rafter Goodwins and Matter Saltmarjbes Saints) keep not at all, neither dayes of publike Thankfgivings, nor of publike Fafts, but do all kind of fervile work and worldly bufineffis on thofe dayes, yea on the publike Faft dayes, feaft, and are eating of roft meat and good chear, when Gods Saints and fervants are humbling ^ and afflt&ing their fouls. There is an Independent Minifter who lives inLW againft which Dottrine one of the company object- ed,andfaid, fitter, what (ay you to that o£AiJtih.2'y. Depart from me yte curfedinto everhjlingfirefreparedfor theDivels and his Angels? irnio which Miftris Attaway replied, that by everlafting in that place was meant while day and night iatted,but noteternall after da^ and night were ended. ^March 13. Two honeft Citizens coming to me about (bme (er- mons an Independent Minifter had preached in London, one of them told me he lately had a man and maid-fervant who were Ana- baptifts, and that when he was abed they would fit-up and juncket together,makingSack-po(Jets & fuch like provifion of his purfe,and infum,this male Anabaptift got the female Anabaptitt with child, and after married her: The Matter fpeaking to him of breach of Covenant, how he had covenanted not to marry in the time of his Apprentifliip till his yeers were expired, he (aid it was a divelifn Covenant, and fo would not keep it. On the fixreenth of fa/arch ,a Member of the Aflembly of Di- vines related this following ftory for a certain truth , which he knew to be fo, only would not name the per (cms ; that a Senary, (one of Matter Goodwins and Matter Saltmarjlxs Saints and Belee- vers) a Seeker by Sett, fought to gain the good will of a Virgin to be his wife, and when (he contented and was contented to it, he propounded that they might lie together at night, at which motion (he ftartled, faying, not till we are married, to which anfwer this Seeker replied^ that marriage was but anidleCeremoDy, they C 2 were 1 2 A further Difcevery of the Errours were now man and wife before God,baving promifed one another,, whereupon they went to bed together, and next morning after the Seeker had fatisfied his luft, he ranne quite away , and left his bride, and infteadof one Seeker there were two, the daughter thus forfaken, and her motherfwho was a widow) to feek after him. In a Book lately printed, calld the Ordinaries for Tytbs Vifmount- ?4 (which book aifo was given into the hands of one Parliament man (as I can prove)by a great Settary who may Juftly be thought the Author of it) there are (uch paffiges of reproach againft the Parliament as are not to be parallel in any writings, except Corns of the Sectaries : In pag . 6.7,8. 40. this Se&ary fpeaking of a pa£ (age in the Ordinance of Tyths made by the Lords and Commons, hath theic following words , Had not fitch a parage gone under the Title oft fa Lords and Commons who are chofenfor the weak of tbt people, I fhouldnot have mdgedit an ail of humanity, but rather therefult of an HelbredconjpiraciebytbeDivellandbis Angels to confound us nith their unresfonable malice, &c. and this was the firfl flone ibefe Afafter- builders laid in thw blejfed Reformation. And in another place of the Book, fpeaking by way of fcorne, calling it that mofl religious and ftirituaU Ordinance for the fupper, as abjohtte Ordinances, as unalterable as the Directory , thefe words are brought in, For indeed at the firft enfetitwasmt policy to rufh fuch a diabolicall and villanous invention point-blanck^ upon us, with an It is decreed and ordained by the Lords and Commons affembled in Parliament. But after a more myflerious manner of ordination, jl'dy intrude it upon us unawares in the gndly and fpecious vizor of Rules and D in clions, as if our Parliament men hadJucbajfirituaB and holy care over us, to give w fuch wholfomt and pious Viretlions, while indeed under this innocent Apparition in the fhapeof Lambs they are no other then ravenwgWolves, rending and tearing -us inpeeces^nd again,ipeak- ing of Parliament men in that Ordinance CorTytbsDifmounted there are thefe words. But what they are let all the people judge, let them con* fider whether there can be the leafi dram of hone fly or Religion in them9 or rtfptft to the liberty of the free»born Nation therein, feeing they lay upon us a heavier yeal^e then ever was laid upon us in the diyes of tht Bifbops. And again, this Sectary , the Author of the Ordinance for Tytbs Difinomted, fpeaks thus of the Parliaments Ordinance concerning fufpendingfcandalousperfonsfrom the Lords Supper* h will bt the andPra&ifet of the Sectaries. 13 thegreateft thraldome and bondage that ever the Kingdoms was invol- ved into, and by this Ordinance of the Suffer, lam afraid we fbaU all go fufferhffe to bed : andfpeaking of the Claffes Synods, calling" them High Commiflions, he addes, if we can finde no juftice there, we may appeal (for forth) * to em Gods them fives, the Parliament {life *Obfervehere ever/afiing, world without end) of whom, how may we expett mercy or both bhfphe- juftice then, that thm be] ore hand whip im with the flings of Scorpions, mf ? pa^j"8 and grind tM between the devouring jawes of fuch dizelifhtpannieall mentinahieh Courts which will even crnfh our boms in peeces> and jqueejc out our ve* manner. ry marrow and juice , and fuch^ out our very hearts blood like fo many geedy Cannibals. Vid. plur.ibid. The Sectaries generally cannot endure any man who fpeaks a- gainft, or complains to Authority of any who broach Errours (though never fo great) as for example, a godly undemanding Chriftian told me within tbefe three dayes, that becaufe he com- plained of a man who denies both the Sonne and the holy Ghofn to be God, therefore the Independents and all the Sectaries among whom he lives deadly hate and revile him 5 and fince the time that the weekly newes Books have mentioned a Vote to be pafled in the Houle of Commons for drawing up an Ordinance againft Paul 2?e/hhat Antitrinitarian and Blafphemer, fome of the Sectaries have fpoken boldly and bitterly againft it,, and faying they would be loth to be any of them that mould give a voice, or have a hand in the proceedings againft him, wiih other words to that effect. There is an Independent of Matter Carters Church, who fpeak- ing againft our publike Aflembiies, often quotes that Scripture in Revel, 17. 5. Babylon the great, the mother of Harhtf, interpreting ic thus,RomeisthemotberCburcbsanda//the Parifr Congregations of England are the daughters \which are Harkts.znd this having been obji&cd againft this Interpretation, that the Apologifts ac- knowledge many of our Congregations to be true Churches, he and divers other Independents fay, they are not of the Apologifts minds. The Seel of Seekers growes very much, and all forts of Sectaries turn Seekers; many leave the Congregations of In» dependents, Anabaptifts, and fall to be Seekers, and not only people r but Minifters alfo5 and whofoever lives but C 3.. a few 1 4 and Pra3ife of the SeQariei. afewyeersfif the Se&s be fuflfered to go on) will fee that all the other Se&s of Independents, Browniite, Antinoraians; Ana- baptifts will be fwallowed up in the Seekers, alias Liber tines}many are gone already, and multitudes are going that way,andtheiflue of theieSefts and Schifmeswill be, that all will end inaloofkffe and licentioufuefle of living. AHymne which fame of the Ami- nomians do fing at their meetings inftead of Davids Pfalms. ■ He newes is good, Chrift fhed his bloud our peace is made in Heaven; \ And now he is gone up to his Throne, w all power to him is given. 2 Our glory is great, we are compleat in Gods great iove we ftand, We are on high exalted by Chrifts victorious hand. 3 We once neer Joft, to hell did poft, but God in mercy found us, And now he hath taught us his path, and with his mercy crown'd us. 4 Shall finne or hell Gods people quell, or ever keep them under? No, Chriit hath died, finne purilide and Hell bands rent in Hinder. ~~ - 5 The A fnrtfar Difcovery of the E rrours 1 5 5 The bloud of Chrift our great High-Prie% which once for us was (lied 5 Hath purg'd the blot, and cleans' d the fpot wherewith we were befmear'd. 6 A glorious thing, a wonder ftrong that finne ffcould not defile, And thofe are all to Chrift more dear that once did feem (b vile. 7 All finne we finde is out of mind, the Saints are made divine Firft in the love of God above in glory they do fhine> 8 None are Co dear, nor yet Co near, with God they are made one, Who now doth fee them fure to be as is his only Sonne. 9 Chrift is cur guide, we cannot Aide,, nor never fall away ; Our ftate is fure, and muft endure though all things elfe decay. so Then let's be bold, our heads uphold, the time is drawing nigh When we (hall raign, and eke remain with God eternally. 11 Let all bafe fears* and needlefle cares out of our fbuls remove, With (peed let's fly to God on high and dwell with him above. Amm, Amm I ■ 1 6 A further Difcovery of the Errours And tis remarkable, that now for prefcnt the beft Independent Churches and Congregations are mixed Aflemblies andmedlies, confifting of perfons whereof force are Anabaptifts, fbme Amino- mians, ibrae Libertines, others hold Arniinian and Socinian Tenets; thofe who for mixtures in manners, and becaufe of (brre perfons not (o holy in their lives, made a Schifme in the Church, have worfe mixtures among themfelves in Do&rine^a linfey wolfey compoun- ded Religion; I do not think there is any one Independent Church of three yeers ftanding,and that hath attained to the number of be- tween 30. and 40. members, but had, or. hath in it fome Anabaptifts, Anrinomians3 Seekers, or elfe perfons holding one or other odde and ilrange opinion. M. Rjmonds Independent Church at "Reter* dam is over-grown with Anabaptifme, and he hath written into ijffg/Wthatbeisfopefteredwhh Anabaptifs, that he knew not what to doe; Matter Sympfons Church hath bred divers Seekers, Mailer L?d^r.r Antinoniians, Matter John Gwdmns. company is an unclean Conventicle, where the fpirit of Errour and pride pre- vails in moft, the unclean fpiric being entred theieinto himlelf and his people with (even evill fpitits, Socinian, Arniinian, Po- pifh, AnabaptifHcall, Libertine Tenets being held by himfdf and .many of his people. And what fhall I fay more, it would be too long to tell of what I have heard of fbme members in Matter Car- t r r/,Mafter Cradockj Matter 'Brifco^AattexBurkts Churches concer- ning opinions they hold. March 21. I was informed for certaine, that a young mai- den buying in the Sir and of a Goldfmith a Gold Ring, the young man in the (hop who was felling it her, asked her whether (he was to be married ("for the Ring was much ofthefize of a marriage Ring) (he anfwered no, nor did not know whether ever me fljould be married; he queftioned further with her, what ufe (he bought it for; after fome di(cour(e together, (he told him (he bought it to give to the Minifter of the Church into which (he was to be admit- ted a member- and the young man further conferring with her, (he told him (he was to be of theCongregationall way,andof a Church where the Minifter was a man of precious gifts. It hath been rela- ted to meal (6 from good hands, and if the re be anymiftakein the Relation , I deiire the Independent Minifters to clear wherein, namely, that in fome of their Congregations, raaid-fervants out of V <. their and PraQifes of the Sectaries. 1 7 their wages, do allow Co much yeerly as five or fixe {hillings to their Ministers, chat fome poore godly perfbns who have exprefTed great defire Co be of their Church way, and gone to fome Independent Minifters to be admitted to Church fellowfhip., could not becaufeof their poverty 5 that perfbns of great ranck and qua- lity, as fome Ladies are admitted to cheir Churches,in a more favo- rable way, and not after the ordinary manner , and that one Lady ac leaft (though no member of any Independent Church but of a Presby teriallj hath been admitted co the Lords Supper a- mong them, and her child was to have been baptized by an Inde- pendent Minifter, bat that it died the very day appointed for the baptizing of k; that in one of the Independent Churches herein Londorty a rich widow who was there a member, refuted to give her content to one in way of marriage(whom otherwife fhe liked and entertained) till he yeelded to fettle twenty pounds a yeerupon v her Independent Minifter during his life^and laltly ,that fome of the Independent Minifters have from (bme one of their members, 20. 30.li.or better/*? amumpnd a Minifter is named who hath fifty fivQ pounds yeerly from three members of his Church, forty pounds from two, and fifteen pounds from a third, ADij]>ntationbeldatthe§\)\t\e about the Immrulity of the Soule by fome Anabaptifls^ as Lam, Battee, and others on the day ofpMke Tbanfyfgivingfor Dartmouths being given up into the hands of the Parliament,. MY Lord Major hearing of a great concourfe of people that were to meet upon fuch a bufineffe, having a refped to the peace and good government of this City, fer.t two of the Marflials men to Lam to the Spitk, where chey were met to difpute, but had not yet begun, who told Lam that my Lord Major had fent them to him to forbid him or them to difpute as upon this day 5 Lam anfwered the Officers he would go up and acquaint the brethren, which he did,ftanding in a place like a Desk above the peopl at one end of the room, and Batte at the other: The firft thing that Lam (pake of, was that my Lord Major had fent to forbid their meet- ing, or rather to defire them not to difpute as upon this day; Bsttee flood up 8cfaid that Mr, Major was a limb ofAmichrifl,and that he D was A further Discovery of the Errours was a perfecutor of Che brethren, and that he did queftion what power or authority he had to forbid them$ he was fare the Parlia- ment gave him no fuch power, but gave them liberty to ufe their con(ciences,andfor his part he durft undertake to make it good to MafterMajor(callingmyLordMajorin a moft bafe and fcorrfull manner Mailer Major).One Overton that was to be the Moderatour one Batties fide, flood up and (aid, Brother Lam, had /Wdone ivell if he had defifled from preaching in the name of Jefus if he had been commanded by the High- Priefls to forbear, had hedonewell or not? Ltm anfweredno; where upon Overton replied in a moft fcornfull proud manner, nor ought we to obey Mafter Major; and thus did thefe men argue the power of my Lord Major for an houres [pace ; but at the laft they came to (late the queftion , and fall to their di(pute j the queftion wa?, That God made man, and e- every part of man of the duft of the earth; and therefore man, and every part of man muft return to the duft again, which Batik could not prove, nor could Lam well tell how to anfwer, but both of them ran off from Scripture to Scripture, never clearing any one thing to the people; and when they had rambled a long time,tbajf they could neither of them tell what to %,then one or other flood up, and (aid, Brother Lam^or Brother Battie, leave this point to the confideration of the Brethren, and take up fome other; after thefe two had (pent foure or five houres in this confufion, they (at down and refted* and then (lands up one JIMijb a Cobler,and Law* /fiwaSchoolemaftcr, both Anabaptifts, and to work they went as their Brethren before : Law fori eals to MeRtfb, and faith to him3 Brother Mellijb, fpeak either Categorically or Hypothetically, JUcIIiJh anfwered Lavpfon^ that he fpake now to him in an unknown tongue,and praied him to explain himfdfiLawfon told Melltfb that he was not fit to diipute if he knew not the meaning of thefe words^ MiHijb replied that if he (houldflandup and tell the people that theMoonewasmadeof green Cheefe, he did not queftion but fome would be of his mind. This Relation was given me under the hand of a godly honefl Citizen, who was an eare and eye witnefle of all tbefaidpaffages? who alio named to me other perfons that were prefent, and he de- livered me this Relation in writing before two (ufBcient witnefles, and declared himfelf ready to make proof of this before Authority when ever he (hould be called,. ! This and Prafffys of the Se&ariet. J 9 This following Relation was fent to a godly and able Minifter of this City, (one who hath a Paftorall charge in London) and this Minifter delivered me the Originall writing,which to a tittle I here fetdown. Reverend, and much refye&ed, IDefire you pardon my boldneffe in imparting to you that which hath lately befaln me : I was in the company of fbnie Antinomi- ans that were very importunate with mc to for fake your teaching, and come among them and harkento their Preachers, and they prevailed with me fofarre, that I gave them mypromne to hear their Preachers; but the night following, I had fuch a terrible dream which raademe break my promise with them; for I dreamed that the Divell would have pulled me out of the bed, and carried me away with him; then I cried out in my fleep (b loud, that I wa* kcd them that were in the Chamber, Lord f efas help me, Lord Je- fus help me, then me thought the power of God came on my right hand, and refcued me from Satan : This I take for a warning from God to avoid their fbciety; and for which I defiretfut thanks be rendred to God in this Congregation which I ufe to fre* quent. There is one Matter JldiUs a Common-Councell man , the Cky Briekler, who hath related it to many, as a thing mod certain, that an old acquaintance and friend of his,an old Papift knowing wei al Papifts laid to Mafter C%7//,that now there were but two Seels or fides in England^ the Presbyterians and the Independents; unto which Mr. Mills objected, how can that be? feeing there are many Papifts ; this Papift replied,that to his knowledge all the PapilTs in E»g/ condemned all the Miniftersof England for xhzSanballats and Tobhhs of this time, cha: hindred the building of the Temple, refembling himfelf, and the Sectaries to thofe who would build the Temple, but it was withftod by the Minifters, who hindred it : At that meeting there was a plain godly man, a (olid old Chriftian of Matter Fairclotb* Congregation who oppofedhim, and God was (b mightily with him, chat it turned to the flume and reproach of this Lancefter , and thoiQ who adhered to him, D 3 Mattes - 2 2 A further Discovery of the Err ours Mafter Archer of Halfteed, an Independent, a man who hath preached much againft our Minifters and Ty ths; at the fame time, or thereabout?, when he preached Co againft Tyths , ufed means to procure to himfelf a great Living \nEJfex,of two hundred pounds far annum, and came to fbme Gentlemen of the Country for their hands to further the getting of that Living. An Extra$ of a Letter fenttne from a worthy and godly Minijlerontofthe Country. Friend, YOurlaft together witht^e Book,! received. I muft confefie when I firft faw your Title, I faid it was none of thofe AhIus {jdlius cals llkcebras ad legendum^c.F or what is aGangraene but an abundance of corrupted bloud inflamed ,&c. and yet for your fake I not runne but read over the text, and found it every way an fwe- rable : And that you were indeed the Mafter of that Art, which (appointing the cure according to the eaufe) wifely prefcribes cut- ting and flafhing fcarifications, wa{hings,not only with mulfumor water, but Vineger and Salt, unguent urn Mgyptiacum^ burning %rochiskesy Arfinicon fuhlimrtum , and much more then you have yet applied, confidering not only the creeping of this Ganker, but that danger the whole body is in of no lefle then that Sphacelus of Atheifme, which not only good and godly Mafter Greenbam, but ^* old BiftiopL^himfelflongfinceprophefied would moft proba- ^* bly over-runne this Realm, rather thenPapifme; And why then (houldany fpeakof a Toleration, except atollmdo potiutquamto- krando. Obflaprivcipi'u, &c. Is one of the beft Aphorifmsof all the fbnnes both of Hippocrates and Galen that I know. 'Tis fad, ve- ry fad to fee ouxAnglia (as Spalatwfis complains of his &?w^Jturned into Africa}new monfters every day, fuch horrid blafphemies, in- tolerable wickednefles,&c. Shall Vipers ftill be differed to eate up the very bowels of their mother? I could tell you many a fad ftoryof fome that preach, pray, and prate, what not? Indepen- dents all, yea and Scholars, nay Minifters, yet not by Ordination* Thepeople they fay make Minifters, quoting £^33.^.2. The Scriptures andPraftifes of the Sectaries. 1 3 Scriptures (ay they are obfcure, no Afletnblies, Synods, nor gene- rall Councels more likely to teach the truth then the San&uary a particular Congregation, &c. Thefe words were u fed praying tor England. 0 blejfed God, we have often already frayed in thy Suns riame$ now let w pray unto thee for thy Sonne clothe thou all hU enemies with fhame, but y&c. An ufuall drain in their prayers, is as followes, That God would pardon the Reformed Churches their great prophanation ef the Lords day • and why is this ufed but to make them odious? Another drain , Who bath gained f Who hath given you fi many victories, but the Independents ? Liberty of Con- ference Lordj&c. and all in our own Kingdom. The UWillenary conceit is the common fubjeft or Sermons, and a Church on'earth without fomuch as an Hypocrite. Publike thanks was given toGod/or that ctDI the LondonTetitionforJettlingy&c.took^ne better. Athoufand fuch, and other Paflages of no fmal! note, you may hear if youpleafe but tovifityour friends in thefe parts, whofe very (buls arefo vexed, that I for my part am refol ved (if it may be ) to burie my (elf at my ftudy, a nd ftirre as little as I can to hear or fee fuch, or the like abominations. And where now is Sodom, as fbme of their Bre- thren call'dold England when they went off our (hore to fea, ufing that expreffion, farewell, farewell Sodom,&c. And what are they but Babell-builderSyWhofe tongues arefo divided, that I doubt noc of the downfall of their Baby lony which by interpretation faith 0- rigen, (ignifles that confufion Chriftians fhould out of. Courage friend, let Divels that muft be difpo{Teft,cry out, we torment them before their time. If ever the Jefuice will be at the height,I fuppofe be is very neer now j who fay no more but fecurity if anything will flay us,which God f orbid.Thus with bed falutes I reftjthough. in haft, yet heartily A£trch$o 1,646,. A 24 c d dpp o c copcDEgnjflDflPPCBjCEBaaggasgo-ocsaircgDBflDUfljjflgi Vid. \LSdtm* pap. z6. Juftification and Vindication of the truth of the moft materiall Paflages related in the Book entituled Gangr&n^ from rfiofe exceptions made againft them in three late Pamphlets en- ticuled, Groans for liberty, A Whifttrin the Eare9 CretenfiS) alias Matter Goodwin. Shall cake them in order,and begin with M.Sdt- marjbyVtho fifft appeared in PrintrAs for M.Sah- mzrfh he doth not (b much as offer to disprove any one peece of matter of fatt throughout my whole Bookj excepting that only of a woman Preacher at Brafteed in Kenty of which he af- firms that 'tis known to himfelf, and to all in that place to be a meer untruth. Now , for the prefent I Reply as followes (referving the greateft part I have to fay till my full and particular Reply to Mr. Saltwarfh and hisfellowes {hall come forth J that as 'tis a itrangc bold aflertion to affirm not only for himfelf, bur for all the Parifti, that they know 'tis a meere untruth (which implies thus much,that M.Saltmarfb does not only afluredly know al things that al the wo- men in the Parifti do,but ail what ever the whole Town of Brafieed knowes; for elfe how can he fay fo of all the women, and all the inhabitants of that place) fo 'tis an untrue aflertion ? for fome who live at Br rfecd do not know it to be an untruth , but beleeve it to be a truth; for one Matter wbeatly a godly able Minifterwho Hvesat#r^^inaGentlemanshoufe3 and hath lived there this two 1 and PraSifes of the SeSarie/. 2 5 two yeers, told me very confidently this Relation of a woman in the prefence of two Minifters,befides two orher Inhabitants of the Town who have lived longer in Brafleed then Matter Saltmarfe af- firms the fame, and three godly Minifters living neer to Tra- fieed, have told me alfo there is fuch a woman, of whom this is commonly fpoken, and a Citizen in London an honeftman having fome relation to drafted, and knowing the place, tels me there is fuch a woman, as is reported by many of Bra [feed to be a preaching woman 5 and he coming lately out ot Kent, told me that upon the way meeting with a Gentleman of the Com- mittee, who difcourfing of M. Sdtmarjhes denying there was any fuch woman in Braftccd , and was (peaking againft my Book, this Citizen replied, he beleeved it to be true, and offer- ed to lay a 20 (hilling peece that there was fuch a woman, bvr. the Gentleman durft not; and be fides all this the Minuter who firit told me,having lately been written unto about it,in a letter by way of anfwer (lands to that Relation which is laid down in Gangrtna. But of this in my fuland particular * Reply the Reader dial receive * Of the name more large fatisfa&ion; only for prefenc from what I have now P^lhe wciman> (aid ("though there be much more behind) I leave to the confidera- vvhh^rher^* tionof any judicious and unprejudiced Reader whether I had particulars not ground enough to write as I did, and whether ih^re be not ancnt this more reaion to beleevefb many affirmative ivitnefles then onene- ni-ttcf« gative, who may not know all that's done mBrafieed^ (for fuch a thing may be, and he never the wifer ) h elides, Mailer Sahmarjb being a Senary is a party, and his tefiimony is by me proved to be falfe,in affirming all in that place know it to be ameer untruth, whereas the contrary is the truth, divers living.in that Town rela- ting the ilory of a woman Preacher there. All thacMafterJFjto?/w the Merchant either in his Pamphlets £htituted A whiter in the E are of Mailer Thomas Edwards , or a word more to Mailer Thomas Edx>ards,hbours to difprove in mat- ter of fatt contained in my Book entituled Gangrana^ is, that I have wronged him , and falfified in faying Mailer PValmn a Seeker anda dangerous man^ aflrong bead; as alfo in my Relation of Mafter zLilbttm9thQ informaiionsgiven unto me of both them being fuch as ! if they had been made a purpofe to (hamc me to all the world. E Now 2 6 A further Difcovery of the Errmrs Reply. Now by way or r\eply,firft concerning M. Walwyn hirmelf, I am confident that everyjudicious Reader, who hath but read M. Wal- n>pis Paraphlets,out of them will acquit me,that I have faid nothing of him but truth,he being out of his own mouth and writings con- demned for a dangerout man^a SeeJ^er^andaflrong bead, as many who knew him not before, from reading his Pamphlets, have told me, that he hath juftified to the world what I have faid of him; But I fhali at large make good this againft the man in my full Reply to him and his fellowes, following him from place to place, from psribn to perfon with whom he hath converfed, and from one thing to another that he hath had his hand in -y wherein I (hall lay him open to the world, and prove him to be a dangerous man, yea a defperate dangerous man, a Seeker and Libertine , a man of all Religions, pleading for all 3 and yet what Religion he is of no man can tell •, A man of an equivocating Jefuiticall fpirit, being full of mentall refervations and equivocations, as appears by the * A word marc fen(e he hath put upon the * Nationall Covenant; there being cc MLdwam k^iy any jefaite could have put a more equivocall interpretation upon theCovenant, then himfelf : And I defire theReader to obferve what I now fay of Matter vsdlwyn : Since his firft Book came forth againttme, I have enquired and fpoken with many honeft godly men about Matter JF will you by all your writings and preachings make good that Title which by way of reproach wasfirft given to youDnamely,T^ great Red Dragon of Coleman Jlreetet mil you bill fpe a l^ at a Dragon, and Dragon like flie fiercely in the faces of all, fpitting your poyfbn and ve- nomeagainft all, cafting fire-brands every where? will you al- wayes u(e your mouth to $*a\gnat things and bla/pbemies , and open jour mouth in blajphemy againfi God, his Name and bis Ta- bernacle , as you have done in your Books of Controverfie ? will you never learn to be meek and lowly, to deny your pafIion5 fpeak as a Lamb, and repent of your deeds? let me tell you, that if you belong to God, thisfpiritof yours, and the way of man- aging things in your Books of M. S. Tbeomachia, Anfwers to Mr, Prynne^Cretenfis will coft you deer, and you will be faved as by fire. For my part inftead of reproaching- and fcoffing you ( though not for want of matter , ^retenfis being a very fruitful! fubjeft for a man to exercife his wit upon) all I will do either in this brief, or in* my full and large Reply (hall be 10 draw to one head all the Errours and ftrange wayes Cnten" fis holds and hath walked in, by which (if God will) he may be adiamed and truly humbled, and his fpirit faved in the day of Chrift, or however, that godly weak Chriitians may know him as a dangerous erroneous man, and avoid him : All I will* fay now (re- serving particulars,and the proofs of them till my full Reply) fhall be this,thacCr^ewphathanhereticaliwic, and holds many wic- ked opinions, being an Hermophradite and a compound of an Ar- rninian, Socinian, Libertine, Anabaptift, &c, and in regard of (brae ftrange opinions he hath held many yeers, and others that in time 32 and Pradifes of the SeQaries. time he might fall unto (which in the Presbyterian way he couid never enjoy with quiet, nor have liberty to propagate them) therefore, he took fan&uary in Independency, falling from our Church, and the Presbyteriall Government^ hich a little before the firft fitting of the Aflembly,he held to be molt agreeable to the Word of God) unto the Independent way 5as that wherin he might with more (afety enjoy his opinionsjand left Cnttnfis mould (core up this for a lye, as he hath done many truths^ which before I have. done with himj mall make apparent to all. I do here give the Rea- der a true Qopie of a Narrative fent me from a godly humble lear- ned Minifter iubfcribed with his own hand, which fully proves the matter I have now fpoken of. A Narrative of certain words uttered by Mr. John Goodwjn Minifter of Coleman ftreety ml long before the Affembly (ate. « npHe faid Mafter Goodwins judgement being confuited as con- f X cerning the point of Church-government : His Anfwer was c to this effect, that in his judgement he did approve of the Pre£ €byterian government as being nioft agreeable to the Word of 6 God, yet in fine added that he thought , that the way of Inde- * pendencie would better fuit and fit him in regard of fome private c and Angular Tenents that he held. Thi3Minifterfubfcribes his name at length under thefe forego- ing lines, and writes as followes. * Mafter Edwards let me requeft you not to bring my name up- c on the Stage in Print to atteft this bufinefle for divers reafons bell 5 kno wn to my (elf : I fay no more, V^bwn fat. fapimti. Toms in all offices of love And therefore though in this, as in many other particulars,! fee not down the names in Print, yet am I far from forgery or lying, or thole Miniftersfrom being afraid to juftifie their Letters, as Cre- twfis would infiauate to the Reader page 6,7. But I conceive the the and Pra3tfes aft be Se3arie/. 3 3 Rcafons why this Minifter and many other?, though they are wil- ling to witnefle truth,and to communicate their Intelligence about che Seftaries,yet for the prefenc do defire to have their names con? cealed, r. Becaufe they live among many Se&aries and Indepen- dents, fome whereof being in place both in Towns and Coun* tries may do them no good officesj but may much moleft and trou- ble them; and therefore unlefle fome great good might come by wicneffing publikely, which might countemile their hazard, «=|p as fuppreflmg the Conventicles of the Sectaries, the fpreading of erroneous opinions,and punching fome of the Rabbiesand Ring- leaders, they are unwilling to venture themfelves by being brought upon the Stage in Print. 2. Becaufe fome live in places where part of our Armies lye, or may come : Now many (bul- diers being Sectaries, and violent for their opinions^ if they mould meet with any Minifters named in Print, giving me intel!igence,ic were as much as the fpoyling of them and their families; and where are they that do or will (Secure them from fuch violence ? there are too many examples of Minifters being in danger, as Mr, Andrews was, and therefore I deal plainly, I have been fpoken to by word of mouth,and fent unco from fome Minifiers in the Country not co name them in my Books, becaufe, if the Army, or fome parts of ic come that way, they (hall be undone, which is a facisfying anfwer to all rationall men, for my concealing their nam-: s, especially to all thofe who underftand the ftate of things, and obferve how pow- erfull the faction of the Sectaries is. Now before I come to give a particular Anfwer to the moft niateriall Objections nudeagainft my Book, I {hall premifetheie fixteen Oblervations upon Cretenfis, Or a briefi Anftvtr, &c. which to every judicious and unprejudiced Reader will (I make no que* fiion) give a great deale of fatisfa&ion, and fervc for a precious Antidote againft the venom and rancor of the Cr*tlan' I defire the Reader toobferve the hand of God in leavingM.GW- Obfcrv. *i win fo to himfelf in writing this Pamphlet as to fuffer hi* own pride, paflion, rage 8c malice fo far to blind him,as toname his own Book (and therein himfelf Cretmfis) giving himfelf the name of Lyer, as is manifeft by the Title of the Book Gretenfit, Or a brief Anfwer to an uicereu§Treatife}&c. Co that The brief An fever to m skerotifTreatiftisCretenfif, not cheTreatife published by Mafter F Edwards^ 3 4 A further Difcovery of th Err ours Edwar ds, which is made by Mailer Goodwin contradiflinft to Cre- tenfis, fo that if Mattel Goodwin underhand s plain Englifti, com- mon fenfe, and Jenws bow to range his Tarts of Speech in a Sen- tence&c. lee him in his Rejoynder to my Reply deny ic if he can- and truly 'tis admirable fand I cannot but admire the wifdome and goodnefle of God wherein men deals proudly to be above them^) cretenfi vide that this great Rabbi, and Seraphicall Doctor, who comes forth pag.oz.pag.it like Goliah, challenging all the Presbyterians J ffunhkd or net Affcmhled , carrying himfeif with that difdain annfeorn towards m^, juft as Goliah to little David, filling up fome of his pages with fcornings of me, as that I cannot write true Englifb, put the Nominative Gafe and Verb together, (peak common (enfe,nor give the Engli(hfen(eof a Latin fen-tence, (hould himfelf in the very rlrd words he writes prove himfelf fuch an Ignoramus bot h in the Latin and Englifti, as to give himfelf the title of Notorious* Lyer, * Tim. i. 12. namely, * CretenJis,Or a brief Anfwer,&c, and as the man doth it The cretians in the Frontifpice of his Book, fo in the Book it felf, as in page 3 9. are alway bars where he would make me a Iyer in that Relation of Cofins of Rq- cbefteri in the very entrance into ic he Humbles , giving his own Relation the lye, as the Reader may perceive by thefe words, Cre« tetifis fpeaking of what was reported to me that Co/ens mould fay * This is a lye of Chrift, faith, let this be the firfi lye in this Catalogue- the man ne- incrttenfisCz- ver fa^ ^ fo cnat ne makes it a * lye that Cofins never faid it : Now Vofakti \ \ 3t *^tms ^e a he lnat C°Pm never faid fo,then by the rule of contraries faid ir, 'tis a truth that he (poke ir58c howeverCrc/ew/Tmay mean otherwise, if the man knew how to bring it out, yet the beft that can be made c fit,is. that this great Critick^ who for want of matter, falls up- on my words 5 making me to fpeak fahe Englifc, nonfenfe, and to be ignorant in putting the Nominative Cafe and Verb toge* t her regularly in Englifht\s himfelf ever and anon tardy infalfe En- glifti, nonienfe, not putting the Nominative Cafe and Verb re- gularly together, of which I could give (ii I bad no materiall things againft Cretenjis, nor nothing elfe to do but to pick ftraws) many inftances both in this and other of his Books; but I will name only one, and that in this bufinefTe of (ofens1 appealing to Cretenfi himfelf, where in this following fcntencp, Uvs Relation here reports that one Cofens of Rocbefter i»Kent, that JefusChrifi rem a Baftard^ is the Verb for the Nominative Cafe? and whether Mr. Goodwin andPratlfys of the Seftariet. 3 5 Goodwin hath well ranged his Parts of Speech in this fentence, and fut tht Nominative Cafe and Verb together re gularly in EngliflA betides adde unto this what follows Hocprimum : Let this be thefrft lye in this G/talogtte, the miri never Jaidit : whether he hath framed the ftruifttreof a period according to the common rules of Reafon, Gram- mar, and common fenfi • but to put a period to this firft Obfervation, let the Rader take ncviceihacin the thing wherein themanhath fif«ied(.lisprincipalldefigne being this by all his Art, Sou ri flies and fallacies to render me a Falfifier and a Lyar to the world) ia chat God bath puniflied him , (offering him to give himfelrche name o£Cretenfis:, al wayes Lyar,by which name he will be known and called as long as he lives, and after he is dead al(b. Ma&ct Ctetetifis Anfwcr in the whole fra'me, drift, and in all obftrv* 2. the (trains of itisfo carried (if no: formally yet virtually and cquivalently to juftifie and defend all the Herefies, Blafphemies, Pra&ifes I have (poken againft) for what one of all the 18c. Er- rours or Blafphemies is fpoken againft, difavowed or condemned in fretenfis AnfWer , but rather all along throughout the Pam- phlet, the Errours, Herefies,&c. are flighted, made nothing of, put off with jears, feoffs, and great fwelling words of vanity ; yea, in a fort denied, as if there were none fuch, and in fine, both Cre- tmfis Confciencc and wanton wit are proftituted andftretched upon tenter-hooks to finde evafions and tricks to bring off without lofle all forts of Sectaries and opinions ; asforinftance, Cretenfit palliats and daubes with unterrp*red roorter, the Er- rors, Herefies,BIafphemies, &c. withfuch kind of devices as thefe following : That he could make a Difcoveryof as many Errours and „ - -■ , is r ^ 1 • . /i» n ^ 1 r ^ 1 • CfCtCHf.par.2, Herejies together in me alone, and that the mofl Orthodox Bresby'erian under Heaven (no nor Independent neither') errours not much bene Jtb the like rate or number of Errours and mifakes of Religion, that he marvails how Ad after Edwards could ft ay bis pen at fo fmall a number as 180. and did not advance to ten thousand times ten thoufand^&c. that if I will own the verdiEl of as learned and ingenuous a pen as ever r. wrote on my fide, I muft releafe the better half of the prifiners, and in- J ~ fteadoj 180, Errours and Herejies write down four/core , and that for Crctcnfpai. u twenty and ten $f thefe opinions which 1 have impeached cf Errours and Htrejie (and he will not fay for how many more') he caps the glove to whomever mil take it up to bring them of with the honour of truth; be- F 2 fides 3^ A further Difceverj of the Errours fides, Cretenfis makes a fixfold dedu&ionfrom the Catalogue of Cretenf.pAg. 9. Errours and Here(ie9, and pleads formally \ and in terminis for cretenfipa* *°me °* *e ^rrours» MHf4^ he (b minces and extenuats the fag.iojii. * 'whole contents of my Book, fita J when aO the accujed ones fhali have time and opportunity to fland forth, and plead tbeit innocencyy Crctenfi pagj. there wiB be very little truth found remaining in any thing reported by me , except in fuch things at are tranfgrejjions again jl no Law- and indeed the whole Anfwer is in one kind or other a continued pleading for Baaly and a calling Error Truth and DarknefJe Light. O the wretchednefle and wickednefle of Cretenps> whereas for thefc abominations of the Errours, HereGes, Blaiphemies of oar times, (known too well to all the Kingdome) he (hould have fate down aftonied, mourning andfigbing, rending his heart, crying out, my fowls my bowels, I am pained at the heart ; the man makes a (port and mock of them, to make bimfelf and the Independent Tons of Jeroboam who are of his own couftitution {merry with them, ufing alio feverall Artifices and fophiftications to elude the truth. And though this be very fad that fuch a man as Crttenfis, who pre- tends to (6 much Saintfhip and holineffe (hould do thus, or indeed any man who hath but the name of a Chriftian, yet I cannot but obferve a good hand of God in this as well as in the former, thus to leave him as to fhame him before ail the world , many befides my felf taking notice and^ (peaking of this in Cretenfis, how with- out all diftin&ion he {peaks for, and moft (hamcfully excufes all kindofErrors,Here(ies,BIa^)hemies,Antitrinitarians,Arrians,Aa- tiicripcurifts, &c. not finding any one Error or pertbn throughout my Book worthy to be blamed;but in this we find no ftrange thing, for that Scripture muffc be ful filled. As for fab as turn afide unto their crocked wayes jbeLord fka!l lead them forth with the workers of iniquity. Gretmfis throughout bi6 whole Anfwer, without excepting any Obfctv.. 3. one man, makes all thofe erroneous per Com Saints , faitbfuU fir* vants of Godficc whom I have mentioned in my Catalogue, and though moft of the inftances in my Relations, where I name per- fons and infift forne what largely upon them, be of moft dangerous men, and of men holding moft abominable horrid errours and blafphemous opinions, as Wrighter^ ffebb9 Clarkfon, Hicb, tMar- fhall, &c. yet doth not fieOmfit condemne, fpeak againft any one of them, or feparate the vile from fuch as may be previous among the and VraBifas of the SeSarks. 3 7 the lower fore of fe£ts,but bundles chem up among the Saints,fpea- king of the Saints, the Saints whofe nakednefle Matter, Edwards being of Satans Councel, hath laid open, and fpread a ca- ble for Satan wich the (name and forrowes of the Saints, fo that in Cretenfjp&p Cretenfis Kalender Antitrinitarians, Antifcripturifts, Arrians, So- rinian*, Perfect iib > are canonifed for Saints as well as Independents, Brownifts, and Anabaptifts, and a man may flnde there Saint Beft3 Saint W>ighter%§t\x\t Jf^Saint Hicb9 Saint Clarkson* &c. as well as Saint Goodwin and his Church ; and no queftion if Saint Befi (hall furTer by the Parliaments authority, for his damnable Here- , J fiesand Bla(phemies,he (hall be a Martyr too as well as a Saint in Cretenfis /Calender, and be reckoned the Protomartyr of the Se&aries; and in this the Reader may obferve how Crettnfis, (no queftion againft his own intention) whiltt the main fcope of his Pamphlet is to make Gangrana a lying Book, confir mes the truth or many pafiages related in it, namely the Independents hold - ing with all other Se&s,not dividing from them,p!eading for them upon all occaiionsjitrengchning their bands,bringingtheinDrTfrom danger,&cal whichCretenfiin many pages of hisBook makes good, 8c though he had a fair occafion upon the coming out of Gangran* to have cafheired many out of their number (there being fo many foul Se&s and Sectaries dileoveredj and can never come off with honor for not takingit, yet 'tis evident Cretenfis will not loofe any one fort of Se&s, or any one Seftary, but joyns them with himfelr' and his ownChurch,the S aim s Jhe fait bfuSJ \rvants o[God}ind fuch like. Cretenfis out of his pride, and in his rage cafts fire-brands every Obferv. 4,1 where, abufing and ha v ing a fling at all he comes near, or takes an occafion to fpeak of, and that not only particular flngle perfons of approved integrity and abilities, but whole focieties, as the Hono- rable Court of Common- Councel], page 49. calling them Bre- Cretenf.fdg .^ tirm in iniquity with me, for reprefenting in- their Petition to the Parliament, that there were * eleven meetings at lead of Sectaries # . . f inoneParimin this City, yea and all Presbyterians Affembkd, J^iSXS^ and not Affembled: Had Cretenfis only abufed and (corned me, a Aldermen, and pore wak, thimble full of dufi, tbat in hi* account I%oKesnotbwc\tT™l?J!Z to range Parts ef Speech in a fentence, nor to pttt the Nominative prefented to tha Cajeandyerbtogitber ngularlj whether from bit SeElaries or otbers in this bhudy negotiation, be jball- fitffer not ai a Chrifiian} nor with Chrifl^ but 04 a LMale}a3or and an will-doer • implying, that if the Sectaries mifchief or kill me for my Book,'tis but an act againft a Malefactor and an evill-doer. Qlfirv* $, Qreunfis takes upon him to fet out a Book which he cals an An- swer andPraBifesof the StSarks. 39 fwer 10 a Tiiacife lately publifhed by Mafter Edwards called Gm- grana^ and yet in this Aniwer * proreffes ihac he hath not read one * Cntenf1^ quarter of the Book as yet,and*that he hath neither leafure nor op- ^^jf-. tlU. portunity to fearch to the bottome, or fife to the bran; all that lyj tnat 1 had the manftorieth/w fe and per alios in his Gangma : Now I not icad one think thefe are the only true pafiages in the Book; tor had Cretenfis quaiter of the read the Book thorough, and well 1 aid to heart the Contents of it, £°r°£nf^ J^' and compared one thing with another which I fay in my Book, I thcr I Tnai ever think he would never have written fuch an Aniwer, nor belched care to read k out fuch unfavory pafiages againft it; I beleeve if Cretenfis had through or no* read it thorough, there are fuch fad and ferious pafTages in many Andin/>*g. 6. places of the Book as would have awed his confeienee 5 but in the ^afore nor op- meane time how well becoming fuch a learned deep Rabbi andp01tUnity to wife man as Cretenfis would be thought to be, 'tis to wrice an An- fearch to the fwer to a Book, and to profefie hee never read one quarter bottom &c of it, I leave to all rationall men to judge, and to Crete nfis him - felf upon a review: I had thought Mafter fVedwards folly ipoken of by many for giving his cenfure and judgement upon my An- tapologie before he had read it over (only dipping here and there) would have been a warning to other men. Mr. Edwards as wea^a poore tbimbk full of dafi as he is, not knowing according to Cntenfis Grammar^*? to put tbeNominative caje and Verb together ,<£•<*■ would have beenafliamed ro have had fa little wit or reafon, as to make an Anfwer to a Book, and in that to declare to all the world he ne- ver read a fourth part of it; But I cannot but take notice of the good hand of God in befooling Mafter Goodwin in this, as in ma- ny other pafiages of his Anfwer to caufehinno proclaim thus his own fhame and folly to the world. Great Cretenfis, a deep Divine, a Teacher of Teachers fas fbme Obferv. $i cry him up) the great lying Oracle of the Se&aric?, yet further fomesout his own (hame and folly in faying the far great eft part of the particulars dmUed were obfervedby others , and pnfinudtohim: Is not this a -Grange and new way of anfwering Books, for men cntenfis pa»+ to take up things upon truft from others,to go by an implicke faith * e* and not co fee with their own eyes , nor examine things them- fclves, especially for a man upon things obferved by others, to make fuch a mighty bufinene, and to carry matters in fuch a fcorn- fuli triumphing way, pofitively charging a Book with lyingfor- 4° A further Dtfcovery of the Errours gery,&c. as Cretenfis doth > what if Cretenfis Sainta; who obfer- vedandprefented matters to him, (being parties) mould out of weaknefle, injudicioufneffe, or partiall affe&ion, if not ma- lice and wilfulnefle miftake and pervert my fayings, where is Cretenfis then? I muft tell Cretenfis that the poore makthimble full of dufi , (b (corned by him as not worthy to carry his Books after him, doth not ufe to make Anfwers to Books without reading one quarter of them, but before he fets forth Anfwers he reads them many times over- laying and compa- ring one thing with another, neither takes he any thing upon truit from other mens obfervations which bee writes as his own,or can come to fee with his own eyes. Should Mr. Edwards in writing any of his Books,or in this laft have taken Cretenfis flight courfe, there's no queftion' but before this time Matter Edwards had heard after another manner, and in another way of his Books then hehath,efpeciallyof his Antapologie and Gangrana^ but the po&re vptik^thimbUjnll of duflytbat knowes not bm to range bis Parts ef Speech in afentence,&c. hath more brains in this then the Bufhe! lull of dirt, who though Cretenfi /have more guts and garbage and be better bodied, yet in the opinion of wile men will be thought to have lefle underftanding>and fewer brains in expreffing himfeh fo as he hath done. Ohferv* io. All the materials and ground- works Cretenfis makes ufe of and goes upon in his Anfwer to G*ngr. to difprove the truth of things related by me fas the Reader may obfervc) are either the Teftimo- nies of the parties themfelves, as Overton, Cofenst Kiffin% Lilburne, Matter Turrought 0&c. (which in their own cafe arc little to be Cretenfis par.' credited; and if according to Cretenfis rule it be no^egukr pro- i *> cefle in Law, to aske my fellow whether I be a thiefe, then fure \ is no good one to aske a mans felf if he be a theife) or doubtfull dark Anfwers to matters of fatt, that may be taken in divers fenfes juft like the Anfwers of the lying Oracles, of which there are ma- ny inttances, as in that of Lilburns playing at Cards with many o- thers, or ehe his witneffes will be found to be Sectaries, Ana- baptitts, Apprentife boyes, or parties interefted, or fuchlike; CmenfpagM as for inftance \n Matter Ricrafts Letter • whereas my proofs of things will be found to be of another nature, moft of the great- eft things laid down in my Catalogue known to my felf and many, the and PraSifes of the SeSariex. 4 r many, the Books being extant Co prove them, and raoft of my wit- ness will be found to be godly able Minifters, and other eminent, found, fubftantiall Chriftians, and theworft of them of more re- pute, more likely to know things they reported then thebeftof your9, (excepting Mafter #«rrwgi&.f> whom yet I (hall prove to have forgot hirnielfin writing that paper fet down by you page 42.) befide the perfons whom I had relations from, had no reafon toipeak things out of partiality, prejudice, but only the naked truth, many things being related to others as well as to me; befides few of them who writ or related thefe tnatrers,did them out of any defigne againft the Sectaries, but only in a way of declaring, and bewailing to what pane things were come; and if to all thefe be ad- ded what CreUnfis himfelf grants, page 26. one affirmative tefti- mony is more valid in Law, then many negative, all that Mailer Goodwin hath alledged by way of Anfwer is to little purpofe. That thole very things Cntmfs charges me with either In my Obftrv.Ii, Antapokgk, or Gangruna (though moft unjuftly) ^s forgery, lying, jugling, bitterneile, malice, bloudy negotiation againft the Saints, taking up report?, and printing them upon weak and flight grounds, obicene fcurrilous writing, contradi&ions, falfe Englilh, nonfenfe, with fuch like ; the man hirrlelf as in other of his Books, Co alfo in this, is mod faulty, as the judicious Reader may obferve more or leffe in one of thefe kinds or other throughout the whole Book, and in my full Reply I {hall more largely and parti- cularly fpecifle ; in one word, Cntenjts is a moft ungodly, Anti- chriftian, infolent, proud, malicious, wrathfull, lying, obfcene, (currilous, nonfenfe,abKird,contradiftory peece. Cmtnfis in all his Books of controverlie and Anfwers of all (cms Obfirv. 1 2. that I have feen and met wi th,is of all Writers in this latter age the greateft falfifier of Authors, wrefting them upon all occafions, and that with a G yam-like confidence againft their own (enfe, and con- trary to what they are known ex projep to hold, and he will not be beaten off from it, as is apparent in his Treaties of Juftification, and in his Anfwers to NI after Prynne> and in this Book bringing in Mafter Ball for him in the point of Free-Will : Now this muft a- rife either from that hereticall genius of his, that be fan etb being condemned of bimfelf fj>eaJ(inglycs in bypocrijie, havingjhn conference feared mtb a hot iren, or elfe from a high flown madfande , making G things 42 A further Discovery of the Errmrs things co appear which are not ac all, like to that mad man of A- them9 who thought all the Ships that came into the Haven were his ( though he never were fharer, much lefTe owner in any Ship^) Jo . Cretenfis fancies all learned Writers to be for him, whereas indeed there never was any found and Orthodox Divine for him, as I fcall fhow more fully hereafter, and divide learned Matter Gatafyr from him, Ohferv. 1 2. Cntenfis juft Cretian like faftensthat upon me in myGangranajLi- firming! fay that which I do not, as in pag> i%.Se&.2%, and doth fiuher opinions upon me meerly from the leaving out of a word or two by the Printers over-fight* (though corrected in the tecond E- 'cmenf.paz.n* ^ition and abroad full fourteen dayes before Cretenfis) which was either done wilfully and on fet purpofe againft his knowledg, or from his not reading over my Book,but taking up things upon trutt. Ohferv, 14. There are many things in fretenfis Pamphlet which he pretends to anfwer, making much ado of, and labouring to fatten upon me lyes, non(enfe5 &c. which yet in the clofe after a great many high- flown wordSjCrefeTZ/fr is forced to confefle them true, and that both of himfelf and others (thoug hby many words he hath laboured to ptiOe and cafi: a mitt before the eyes of the Reader.) Qbfirv, iJ. Idefire the R.eader to obferve that this Anfwer made by this great Fvabbi is but by (hatches here and there anfwering Cjangrma by great leaps, as Leopards ufe to take 5 Cretenfis anfwers one pafTage out of fag. 70. and then leaps co 128. taking another there, and from pag. 128. leaps back topag, 8. and after this fort the whole Anfwer is 5 and for thoie pages where Cretenfis fattens upon fo me thing to give an Anfwer unto, even there he (hatches, takes not the whole,what goes before, nor what followes after, Co that after that race of anfwering (if fuchkind of Difcourfes muft feave the names of Anfwersjhowmaynotmen elude, and make nothing of the excellenteft Books that ever were written by men, yea of the Scriptures themfclves, and wreftthem, if they will not take one place with another, and obferve what goes before and what followes after; and as this great Rabbies Anfwer is by match- es, fotis full of miferable (hifts and poore evafions, as among oihtrs pag* r$* Cretenfis gives that reafon why my Ant apologk hath not been anfwered in i8..monthSj becaufi the way by which light and tmth and Prattles of the Se&arier. 45 truth fhould go forth into the world was hedg'd up by Ckrgie, Clafi fique Councels , as with thorns again ft him: N owl wonder wich what face Cretenf.cm write this,when as all men know the Indepen- dents have a Licenfer of their own ac hand, Matter 'Bachehr, who is fuch a * friend co all the world of beleevers, chat certainly he can- * s^ima''fi not deny Cretenfis: Do not we daily lee the man licenfes without ^baty./wL ei chcr fear or w it al 1 kind o f Pam phi ets, The Error of ' Anabaptifm^ againft Matter Marfhall, theErrourof Seekers in the Smoke of the Tempky A pretended Anfwer ej 'Matter Saltmarjhto the Affimblies Pe- tition, and now Cretenfis againft Gangrena^ and will Matter Ttacbe- hr witbCfergy^C 'laffzque Counfelsftdg up tin way as with thorns againft Cretenfis R_ep!y to Matter Edwards Ant apologia can Cretenfis think though his own deluded Church and other Sectaries may have (b much Independent faith as to bcleeve him, that any Presbyterian hath fo little wit as not to laugh at fuch folly ? why could not John Bacheler as wel leap over the hedge of Ckrgy Ciaffiqae thorns to Licenfe a Reply 10 Ant apologia, as an Anfwer to Ga8granayand pray Matter Goodwin in your next account you give unto the world by pub- like writing^ivQ me an account why honeft John BachelercuXd not as well leap over the hedge of Clergy Clajfique thorns to Licenfe a full Pveply to Ant apologia,^ to Licenfe A Brief Anfwer to Gangrtnaibut no more of this now. The Chriftian Reader mayobferve Cretenfis as in this, and his Qb[erv*i6. former Books, (bin all his preachings and waves, to have all the characters and marks of falfe Prophets and falfe Teachers, not only inhishands,buluponhisforeheadXo that if I would here enlarge I might cleerly (how all that Chrift and the Apoftles ipake of falie Prophets, are to be found in fretenfc but I will on- ly inftance in a few laid down by Peter and Jude in their Epiftles, and upon the propounding of them I know the Reader will fay, as face anfwereth face in glade, fo doth Cretenfis anfwer thefe Scriptures 5 Peter faith of the falfe Teachers in his time, that they (j>zak- great [welling words of 'vanity , and that they prcmije their followers liberty • and Jude, they are clouds without watzry carried about of winds , raging-waves if the fea, foaming out their own jhame, wandring Jlarres; their mouth fjp*}(m,befides expreffions that ha ve fallen from fome Independents, and Tndependenti/h concerning me, my ftudies in the Controverties of the Church way , and fbme of my Books fas a fpeech of Matter Thomas Goodwin fpoken to a Minifter one Matter T. and others then prefenc upon occafion of fbme In- dependents flighting me, and my frft Book, as Creuitpj doth here, yea paflages out of fbme of Matter John Goodwins Anfwers to Matter Trynm concerning me and my Antapohgie) it would be a full confutation of all Cretenfis hath (aid againft me in this matter, yea 48 A further Difcoveryofthe Errours yea a clear convi&ion that all words of this kind are nothing elfe but the venting of his fpleen and paffion againft me and my Books : But all I will fay by way of Anfwer to Crctenp reproach- es of this nature is, i.The quick fale thefe Books had being bought up by learned and judicious men of all rancks^ tbelaft Book Gan- grma bdng now in the Preffe the third time within lefle then two months^unto which adding the grearaefieof the Book, confiding of Co many meets, with the not being expcfed to faleby fetting up Titles in all places of the City, at Church doors. Exchange, 8tc. like Wine that needs no Bu(h;(though al wayes under heaven were ufed by the Sectaries to blaft it) is an evident argument 'tis not fuch a weak nonfenfe peece as Cretenfis fyeakt of; for in thefe times when she Preffe is Co thronged with fuch variety of Books, and many ex- cellent peeces come forth, more then men can read, judicious un- demanding men have fomething elie to do with their money and time, then to buy and read Books full of nonfenfe, contradictions, and whofe Authors hgow not bow to range their Parts offteecb in afin- tence, nor bow to put the Nominative Cafe and Verb together regularly in Engtift.2. I Will here give the Reader a true Copieofa Letter to a tittle,(ent me from eight and twenty Miniftersout of oneCounty in this Kingdome, whofe joynt judgement upon my Antapakgj and Gangrma^miy ferve with every indifferent Reader to ballance,yea to weigh down Cretenfis. To our Reverend Friend Mr. Thomas Edwards Minijler of the Go/pel. Sir, WE cannot but acknowledge the great fervke you have done for the Church of God by interpofing your felf againftthe growing Schifms and Herefies of thefe times : And upon confe- rence had thereof at our weekly meeting here, we have thought it our part to contribute fomewhat to your incouragcment, by tefl i- fying how great acceptance your labours find among us 5 who givethankstoGodforyouand your zeale to his truth exprefEd not only in your ufuall Sermons, but efpecially in your Ant a* pokgie and Gavgrtna, by which you are well known to us all 5 and we and PraSifes of the SeQariet. 49 we carneftly defire that you will continue the fame endeavours for the maintenance of the truth, and oppofiag of Errours. And as we are very (enfible of the great difcouragements you are like to meet withall, fo we fliall the more heartily commend you, and the fuccefie of your labours to Gods protection and bleffing, refting ^Mitch I p. I £4.5* Tour loving Brethren and fellow- labourers in the Afinijlery. Unto tbisLetter the hands of 28.Minifkrs are fobfcribed; but I forbear the printing of them, as I do the County where they live, to avoid all danger which might come to any of them from print- ing their names, if fome Sectaries in the Army come that way, as they are likely to do* Now in my Reply Co particulars laid down in Crete* fuy I (hall apply my felf chiefly to juftine and make good thole Relations in Gangrma excepted againft by Cretenfis referving o:her things in his Anfwer to my fuller Reply, which Cretmjis (God willing)mili be fure of, and that to the full. Creteufis pag. 2 .labours by all his Rfretorick and many words to infinuateto the Reader how in writing of my Bock Gangrc.no- \ have (aid all, and the worft I can of the Independents andSecl:aries# and that whilft I charge them only with fuck andfuch crimes ,1 do not fo much charge them with thefe, as acquit and dtf charge them from all others \ and that there s no re af enable man but will abate and deduttjandthjrtto a good proportion from fucb reckoning! and ac- counts}&ct tnuchhjjewill he judge fueh accounts fhort or defeftive in particulars ; and thit M after Edwards hath hut faintly informed the world how vile and had the Se claries an^ hut hath jnftified and acquitted them fnm all other crimes and imputations of any worjl rejent mentor import then thefe wherewith he affliUed them , and covfi- qvtntly hath reprejented them to the world as better and fane more defervingjben far thegreateft part of bit own Presbyterian generation* However Mafter Edwards or the Printer for him, may poffibly Reply* in fbme places of hrs Book print none of thetrueft Englifli, yet I amfure Cretenjis in this Page fpeaks none of thebeft (enfe nor Rea- son that ever I read in my life, but aery line and fentence is (b H flight 5 o A further Difcovery of the Err ours flight and weak that a man may look through and through it 5 and the truth of it is, Cretenfis all along hath a multitude of bom- baftedftarched words, priding himfelf therein, but feldome or ne- ver in all his Anfwers hath he any thing elfe5 witnefle his An- swers to Matter fvalker3 Mafter Poland this prtfent Paflage^ and firft for that which fretenfis (peaks here, the man makes good what he faith pag. 50. that he never read one quarter of my Book, and that he took things upontruft, as obferved by others* for certainly had he read my Book over , he could never have writ thus, that in charging the Sectaries with thefe I acquit them from all other crimes and imputations , and that I have repfefented them to the w Grid abetter and far more defsrving generation then the far great* ejl part of the 'Presbyterians. i. Becaule in divers pages of Gingrma I expreflely declare I have many more to lay to their charge , ftiling this Book but a pradudium and preparative to what'6 behind 5 doth a man who accufes a guiky perfon at firft but with two or three Articles, and yec formally declares he hath many more, and upon every Article pleads his liberty and power of Additionals , juftifie and acquit him from ail others ? 2, Had Cretenfis but read over my Book , and confidered what Errours, Practices, Blafphemies I fpeak of, to what a nature feme of them amount, and of what a kind they are, that there can hard- ly be worfe, he would never have faid I had dealt but faintly witji the Sectaries, and that the Sectaries were a better- and fane more deferving generation then the Presbyterians $ for if the farre great- eft part of Presbyterians be worfc (or fo bad^) either for Doctrines, Pra&ifeSj&c. as 1 have proved many of the Sectaries to be, then I niuft profefle I will difclaime, and be the firft that (hall cry out of them, and will never go about to plead for them as Cretenfis does for his Sectaries. But fuppofing I had not declared my mind in this cafe,yet all that Cretenfis faith, is in-confequent without al ftrength of reafon • for there may be & are referves when not thought of, and wife men al waves in all matters of accufations and reckonings will feare there's more behind, and fufpeft fomething worfe, though not declared at firft > and I would aske Cretenfis whether either in impeachments , or reckonings and accounts brought in to Gourcsof Juftice againft fuch and fuch men, though at firft but pare and Praffifes of the SeSariet. 51 part of the Accufation be alledged, whether the accufed can be/e- cure they are juftified with an high hand from all other crimes and imputations of any worfe refinement or import; and when one is impleaded and endired upon the latter, this be a good plea in Law to fayhe' is free5becaufe they were not mentioned at ruft^rnuch Iefle then will it hold in cafes where there Was a formall Declaration and caution entred that fach Articles were but preparatory and not the whole matter. Crctenfifpjg.%. makes two challenges, calling his Glove the Cretenfi ^firftand fecond time to me 5 firit as to matter of PracVife,!oo.k < of what crimes or mifcarriages foevcr I have with any truth im- 'peached the Sectaries, he will produce both as many for number, * foule C yea farre more foule) for nature perpretrateel and done by c a farre Iefle number of Presbyterians; yea and that he will give a- cno:her manner of account of the reality and truth of whac h# c brings upon the Stage in this kind. Secondly,for matter of opi- c nion, that he will difcover and find out as many Errours and He- and fend it so me« The third Letter was one Mafter Jofiab Ricrafts, who 'owns it, and hath been with me lince Cretenfis came forth, and to my know- ledge is drawing up an Anfwer to Cretenfis, for (b much as con- cerns that Letter. The fourth Letter was written by a Weaver in Sommerjetjbire one Crab (if I niiftake not^thenamej and I received it from Mafter Rtfewall a City Minift er,wvll known, who will own it, and make it good 'tis fuch a mans- and thus I have given an account of the Copks of all the whole Letters printed by me : Now for the extract of certain Letters written to rae and fbme other Minifters, for fcven of them which are the greateft part of thole ex crafted Letters, namely all chofe which concern Co/cbefter and Mr. Ellis, or tome others there (of which Letters Mafter Ellis himfelf writes thus to a friend in Londm^be cretenfis f>az* ajpsrfions caft on me, and fome others here by Mafter Edwards are as 44. J jalfe as joule : which becaufe tbey an a gnat pan of bis Book^and ftrengtb^tbofe xvbo are ben concerned in it, rvilljf God pkafe,fhorty rnaki Repl,)he who writ them is not afraid of bis name, neither was his name concealed for fear of an examination of the truth of theLetters.as Cretenfis by reading th;s Letter lately feat to me from him may underftand, which I here print to a tittle. To my Reverend and 'worthy Friend Mafter Thomas Edwards Minifter of the Word of God. Reverend Sir, THere is a paffoge in Mr John Goodwins Book , charging you with abufing Mafter Ellis of Colchefter , and the Saints in thofe andPraBjfes of the Se&aria. << 55 thofe pare s,and that he wil jnortly make reply to your falfe 8c foul a per (ions. Thefe are cherfore to certifie you that concerning thofe Letters I writ unto you from Colcbefitr, I have them attefted under the hands of many fufficient witneffeSjeach particular that is ma- teriall being averred by three witnefles at leaft, and thofe of piety and judgement • which attentions I fhallkeepby me to produce them upon fit occasions to juftirie thofe Letters to the world. Yet it is potfible he will Reply to thofe things as falfe and foule, or come off with diftincYions andmentall refervations5 but thefe things are fo evident in this Town and much more then I writ un- to you (as his preaching for the pulling down of our Churches and other things that I can prove) that his Pamphlet will do him no good in this place. For it will not be the firrt time that he hath faid and unfaid the fame things here, denying and diffimbling his opinions for advantage, as will be teftirled by many witneffes, by (bmeofihe Honorable Members of the Houfe of Commons, Mi- nifters,and others, godlyand judicious Chriftians. This I thoughc good to fignifie for the prefent 3 recommending you to the grace ofGod,Ircft Your affectionate friend and fellow !a- A frill i 6 4 6* bourin the Gofpel Rub. Harmer. Now by all this the Reader may fee what to judge of Cretenfis, and his falfe glofTes and commentaries upon the Letters printed in Gangrana; and had I Cretenfis railing fcoffing R etorick which he makes ufe of in this fedtion , and in many other places of his Book, I might fpin out whole leaves in aggravating and fcoring up of lyes, evill furmifings, bitter words,fcofTs and jeers expreiTecf by Cretenfis ,upon occafion of the printed Letters ; but I forbear to contend with him in this kind;truth needs not fuch colors though error does to fet it off. The bare relation of thefe things is a fuffi- cient confutation of Cretenfis, and if the printed Letters of which Cretenfis, Mafter Ellis, yea and Matter Saltmarjh make fuch a cry of forforgerfe, falfitiedare abide the light, and their Au- thors are readie to juftifie them the judicious Reader by this may both judge of the truth of other things contained in Gmgrmz,m& of the tolly and vanky of the refl of Cretenfis allegations aga-inll my Book * As- 5^ Afurthet Discovery of thetf tours As for theextraQ: of foure or five Letters, whole Authors names I have not yet mentioned , cher's no one particular matter of fa&, correlation of ftories excepted againft aoy of them; the ci- ther Letters whofe Authors I have named, arc the fhule offenfive Letters, and therefore I (hall fpare their names till the truth of the fads related in them be qtieftioned by Creten(way,and that I live in a good ftrong City near the High Court of Parliament, and by the Honourable Court of Common-Councell, I mould expeft and be afraid that histhreatning might be fulfilled before ever his Reply to Antapo- logia would be ready to come abroad : But whereas Cretenfis faith that he verily beleeves his Anfwer to niy Ant apo logic will not be for my honour, in which refpecl; I have no great ground to be fb reft- lefJe and importunate in calling for it; I Reply, the Antapcl)gu(i am fare) was for the honour of the caufe I under- took, and turned to my honour both at home and abroad, and made not for the honour of the Apologifts and Independent party; neither do I be- leeve Cretenfis Reply to my Antapol will make more for bis honor* then this brief anfwer of his to Gangr. and however for the pre- sent £retenjif Reply when it comes fir ft forth, by his railings, revi- lings, fcofTs and lies put upon me, may not make for my honour,, yet by that time myRe joynder can be made and printed3it mall ap- pear to all the world that the whole bufinefle, both Apologet. Narr. Aatapologie^Cretenfis Reply, and my Rejoynderwill make for the honour of the Presbyterian caufe,and of my felf as a poore inftru- ment pleading for it againft the Zanzumins of the time, and to the dimanour both of the Apologifts, and their great Champion Cre- tenfis. Cretenfis in this i %page makes an Apologie, and giveshis Rea- fcnswhy M&ftet Edwards Antapologie is not anfwered in fo long a time as 1 8. months, namely *&<** the Independents are not men who have little or nothing to do U\e the Tresbyterians having the prrviledge &f eafe to f reach to the hare walls and pewes in their meeting places > nor that fhamelefneffe of forehead to make ehe fubjetl matter of their Sermms little elfe hut hofe , lying, and frivolous reports avdftories, or virulent invettms againfi the Saints as the Presby- terians $ neither was the way free and open to bring light into the world, but hedged up with Clergy, Clafique Couucels as with thorns again(lthem$and iefides, Mafier Edwards tooh^notmtcb fejfe then 1 8. months time for his Antapologie, and therefore no wonder if the In- dependents be not men of more expedition. Reply, Cretenfis playestheSophifter here, making ufe of that fallacie mneaufapro caufa7 giving the falle caufe of not replying^and con- cealing andPraStfes of the Se&arks. 61 eeaiing the true* and thaeallthefearefalfe^is evident, i. Becaufe Cretenfs hath had leafure to have attended the motions of my p:n, and hath fince the 18. months given an account to the world more then once, twice, thrice,and had leafure now, the privilege of eafe fttunf.p> to make an Anfwer to Gangr<£na,2nA could he not with the labour of * o. 1 5 ♦ all thefehavereplyed to^^/^t?itfliouldfeemfor all the weak- neflTe, contradictions, and fuch like, which CrJenfts (peaks of Ant a- pologicjth a hardpeece thziCretenfis can write and print five feveral Books,have time enough/™*** bk conftmt and ftandivg labours with tbofe who have com mittedtbemjelves to bim in the L ord, be fore he find time to Reply toAntapol.bcdds Cretenf.hzd five greatChampions the Apologias to aflift him in ic,fome of whom vvil be found to have or co take more priviledge of cafe and fddom preaching then the Prefc by terians ufe to take, and fomeofthem have had leafure to Print other things fince, wherein not fo much concerned; as alfb Oe- tenfir hath a priviledge of eafe and idlenefle when he pleafes to help himfelf (which none of the Presbyterians have) viz. to appoint iomeof his Prophets in his Church to preach for him, which he frrquently pra&ifes upon all occafions, as I can prove, and hath upon pretence of anfwering my Antapologie, 2. Some Indepen- dents have that fhamelefneiTe of forehead to make the fubjed matter of their Sermons little elie but loofe, lying, frivolous re- ports and ftories, or virulent invecYives againft the Saints, &c. a^ Matter Peters the Vicar Gmtrall and Metrop&litane of the Indepen- dents both in New and Old England-, and I wonder how Cntenfis for- got him • name any Presbyterian who is of any account in the Church of God fuch a loofe rambling Preacher as he; and for his inve&ives againft the Saints , 'tis one of his comiron places in many of his Sermons, to fpeak againft the Preformed Churches^ the Reverend Aflembly, and the godly Presbyterian Minifters of the Kingdom, who are not only Saints,but godly Miniftersjbut M* Peters is not alone ,for Cntenfis himfelf is a loofe Preacher,and f ul of bitter invectives in h's Sermons againft better Saints and Servants of God, then ever himfelf, or any of his Church is like robe (the particular pafJages which he hath ufed in Sermons, I will give the Reader in my full Reply J and fo Mz&er A cber of Hauftedis fa- mous, or rather infamous for this, cum multis alilsi whom in my large reply I may adds to thefej As for the third R.a(bn, the way I 3, frf? 6z A further Difcovery of the Err ours flopt againfl printing for want of a Licenfer, I have already refuted, and [hall (peak more to it in my next Reply : And for the fourth Reaion brought by Cretenfis, to apologize for not replying in iS.nionths, 'tis both for matter and form all falfe, and a man would wonder that Cr^iinfis mould dare to write to ("though indeed no- thing of this kind is a wonder in Cretenfir. ) Cretenji/, how can you anfwer it to God, to your Churchy and to all men,to write fuch a manifeil untruth? that I took not much Ufle then eighteen months in making the Antapakgj^ when as the Apohget. Narration(l ana (lire of it) came forth in the month of December ^ud to my beft remem- brance cowards the latter end of it, and my Antafohgie was prin- ted and abroad either the lafc week of June following, or the firft of Jptij, which at the fartheft was not ful I (even months and is far from eighteen months : As for that infinuation of Cretenfis /oyned to the eighteen months, the advantage of liberty and freedom from other ingagements which AfajlerEdvMtds bad above other men , 'tis a fa\k one; for from that time I began to anfwer ApologeticaU Narra- tion till it came forth , I never had leiTe liberty or freedom in my life, nor more bufinefles and engagements of (everall forts fn refe- rence to the publike,preaching in that time of writing my Book very often, three times a week conftantly, and many times foure, befides the tedious journks between London and Godalming riding to preach there, together with all the difficulties and fears of many Alarums from the enemie,&c. in that time. But before I draw to a conclusion of this, I defire the Reader to obierve what a proud arrogant fpeech this is of Cretenfij to extoll himfelf and his party, with the contempt and (corn of the Presbyterians, If Independent Minijiers bad either the priviledge of eafe to preach io the bare re alls andpevees in their meeting f lac es\ Now for this in my large Re- ply I will acquaint the Pleader what priviledges Independent Mi- irifters and Independent Saints have and take above the Presbyteri- ans, and what their priviledge of eafe and idlenefle is above the Presbyterians, as alfo (how the true reaions why the world wan- ders after the Beaft, many of the Independents are (b flockt after before Presbyterians, as alio by what a fort of people, and what little caufe Crettnfis and his Saints have to glory and boaft of it, and when I have fpoken to that at large, I beleeve I (hall be out of Cre- unfit debt for thfife words. I (hall and Pradifes of the SeQarhs. 6% Only for prefentl fhalltell Cretenfis thcfe three things, i. That there are Presbyterian Minifters who preach no more to bare walls and pews then Cretenfis and the Independent Ministers, as M. Mar- JhaUWl.iyhitaktrMzfe* Calamity Matter Sedgwick^ cummultUa- tw, both in City and Country. 2. There are many Independent Minifters who have preached lately, and do foftill as much to bare walls and pewes as any Presbyterians^witnefleMr. Barton, Maftcr DavUy Matter Freaky Matter £2ts, Matter Fttrman^ &c. 3. Presbyterians do nat ufc however Independents may (asCnten- fis in his fpeech impiyes) to have ever the more priviledge of eafc by preaching to a few rather then to many, by preaching to a hun- dred two or three , or preaching to a thoufand or two, for they preach out of conference and difcharge of duty to do good to the fouls of men, and not for applaufe to pleafe a multitude, and there- fore'tis all one to them whether there be fewer or more, one hun- dred or many; but this is expreffed according to the Indepen- dent humor, who have their Sermons of feverall forts 3 thofeof greater pains and ftudy when their pewes and walls are full, snd their Sermons ofeafe when their pewes are empty, and theirwalls bare. Now to put a period to this i4.fcction,with?.r) Animadvtrfi- on upon that pailage of Cretenfis wpag, 1 6,his ctnfiant and (landing andconfiant labours with tbofe whe have committed tbemfehes i» him in tht Lord, I aske of Cretenfis where he finds this ufed of a people to commit themfelves unto the Minifters ; we are commanded to commit our way to the Lord, and to commit our fouls to him,and of God'tis oft ufed; but in what place is it of people to Mini- fters, and then thofe who have committed themfelves to you; why did you not fay to the Church rather? what is Cretenfis become the Church? andlaftly, why was it not as wellexpref7edthu!> thsfe to whom 1 have committed my Jelf unto in the Lord> forlbe- leeve upon better confideration it will be found that Cretenfis hath as much committed bimielf to his people, as they to him; for they preach and rule as well as Cretenfis; and I bdc^vQ upon ex- amination (theChurch will be found to preach ofener thznCretenfis, for all his conftant and (landing labours) and his young Prophets to exercife upon the week and Lords day , and he bound to hear and obey them as well as they him; and now if How the Cobler were alive again^ Cretenfis and he wouldhave no more difpurariom. and % and Cretenfis would crave pardon of him for abufing him Co as he did upon that Controverfie; and for a recompence unto him Mr. How mould be preferred to be Teacher in Cretenfis Church j Mr. Cretenfis the Paftor, and Matter Hon? the Teacher; for belike hu- mane learning is not nowneceffary to the preaching of the Word; and fure we (hall one day have a Book of Cretenfis Retractations and Confeffions, and might have had ic before this time, but that Cretevfi? knows not how his mind may change again,and what new light he may yet have, and fo he will flay till he dies, that we rray have ic altogether, and without any more change. Cretenfis Se&. i 5. pag. 17, i83 19. with a great many of flourifh- ing words and a bold facejabours to poflefle the Reader that in my Antapologk and Gangr they may well go *Mafter thorn* *°r Saintsin Cretenfis Kalendar, but never in my Creed, neither i»*sermon go they for Saints in Mr. Thomas Goodwins late * Sermon before Tnlt/of sutl the Houfe of Commons, but are there blotted out by him. andKingd.p.fat If any man think.l am & pleading for a Liberty of aS Opinion^ ef what nature, and how grojfe fsever^ I humbly defire tbem to remember that 1 mly plead jot Saints, and I anfwer plainly the Saints need it not.The Jpejlle tels m there are damnable Herefies, fo 2 Pec. 1.1,2. and they will foonuvfaintihcm. So that I fieaking againji the grofleft Errors ^andmenholdingfmh^n Mr. Thomas Goodwins judgement Ifieak againji thofe who an no Saintst h»% are ierfom cwtradijfinguified and oppofedte Sa'wr, 2, What and PraSifes of the SeBariet. 65 2. Whar ever I fpeak in both my Books upon this pome to the Civill Magiftrate ,is no other but what the Scripture clearly holds out; and though I have done it with afTcttion and zeal, yet not with bitternefle nor bloudinefTe, and lam confident cbat Cretcnfir nor all his compeers caDDoc in all their reading (how me two Books of any Divine who proves fo much, and fo foul things as I do in my Anta-pologk and G mgr&iafxxuxQn with more moderati- on ? fairneffe, and with lefle bitcerneuv, and let Creunfis in his next book inftance in any bloody bitter paffages, ahvayes pro* vided he wreft nor words nor leave out no partcS fenterxes. 3, The Sectaries themfelves and Cretmfis coo will one day confeflc: Maftcr Edwards in oppofirg Errors, Herefies, discover- ing them, and ftirrirg up the Magiitrares to their dutie,was their go^d Frirnd3a mercifull man.cne who both with fear and cosnpaf- iion would have (aved them out of the fire; and I would aske Cre- tenjis whether are they more mercifull, tender, that will not let lit- tle children, Gck perfons, mad men do what they will , go where they pleafe,cate what they lift; or they who ufeall good means to hinder them, and provide wholfome food and medicines for them; yea, I am of the mind, before a yeer comes about the Ma- giftrares and Kingdom will fay Mailer Edwards and xho e men who either by wriiingor preaching (poke moft againft the Errors, Herefies, Si hifms of the times and a Toleration, and ftirred t:s up to hinder and fur>prc fie their growth, were moft mercifull both to the fouls and bodies of men, and to the kingdoms, and far from bloudineiTe, bitterne{Te,or invereratenefle. 4» Whofoeverdoth but well read the Scriptures, and obferve what quick (harp paflag s are there recorded co have come from the mouthof Chrift andhis A p^ftlcs againft Errors,Herefies,and fal.'e Teachers,yea (harper and more fpoken againft fahe Du&rines and fulfe Teachers, th~n againft bad mar.nersfasfor inftance, M%tm J.\%/2ali& Q,Gv/.<5.io.i2.2Pi/.2.l,2 3. iJohng.ioAi.rvbnk E/>. of J ttde Rtvtl.2. 14, 1 v20. 2 2, 23. with ahundred other fuch) will never blarm me for bitternefle, bloudinefle, invereratneffe, &c« furioumefle and over-eagernede in ray oppofing Errours and falfe Teacher^ who according to mypoore meafure have endeavoured in oppofing Errours, to follow the example of Chrift and hisA- pofties, though I have fallen far (hort of my duty in this kind^noc K im- 66 A further Discovery of the Errours improving my time and talent, but wanting in that zealjcourage, diligence, requifite to this woi k : ^And however Creteufn and bis compeers think I have over- done) yet I have great caufe to be deep- ly humbled for doing no more, 8c to hie me into my frudy,and cry, mferere miVominej but to draw to zconclufion I (hall in this cafe anfwer Crctenfis and all the Sectaries who accufe me , ^and cry out $ucd autem ve* of my eagernefle and over-doing, as Luther did Erafmw charging kementixt ^e- him for too much veheroencie. But that 1 have dealt in this caufe $ar»3p culpa ejt,u more vehemently 1 confefje it a fault , if it be a fault ; yea J do wonder- VcJit^inr^of^y^^^^^^J^9^ t0^s given to me in the world in the caufe of reJdiincaftfaDei God: And O that Godhimfelf would confirm this tefiimonyin the lafi %J^'»tf^m& day, who thenfhouldbe happier then Luther, who u commended by fuck a ipftDem id tefli. teftmeny of the age h lived in, that he did not handle the caufe of truth Zi7%r^riZ fatkfftttj wr deceitfully \bm vehemently enoughjr rather too much ? Then rnignis item be- fwuld I happily ejeape that of Jer, Cur fed be he that doth the worh^ &c, tt^JJcHii 5 -The biciernes,bIoudines,&c,with which Cretenf. hbots to load ufttmonh com- me,will beTound in {/retenfei and the Sectaries, and as they grow in vHhal^coHfi^ power and number,will be difco vered every day more 8c more; can Tien fjegnner nee any man think that Gretenfis who hath fo much rage & malice in his vekfmemelr fitk bearr,and To much gall in his pen(as he difcov^rs in thisBook againft vet pot™ »»';«»• all Presbyterians) would not if he had power do as much with his iittmixHfiHciter ha$3ds;and be another Bonner 3 or another John otLeydenl God keep evaferimy m&k- tne Presbyterians out of the hands of the Independents 8c Sectaries e^DeVJegh- when they come to have power, andthin-k they are ftrong enough gemer. Lutherus to raafter them; doth not Cretenfts difcover his bloudy mindednefle againft me in the three lait lines or this 15. Section, inviting as it were ib rue of his Sectaries to fail upon me, preaching that doctrine to them^Tbat whatfoevtr Ifiallfuffer by any Se&ary for writing againft tbemylfhaUfufftr but as aMalefa&or and an evill' doer$Now for proof of the bloudy mindedneue, perlecution and liberty of Confcience which the Sectaries will give the Orthodox, when they come to be ilronger,and of all the means they ule 8c wales they take to give the Presbyter, liberty ofGonfcience,! fhall in my fall Ptepiy xoCretenf. (peak at large^only for prefent thus much, they labour to get all the power of Arms they poflibly can into their hands, & the comand of al the great Towns and Cities,and by one way or other to turn out of place, keep out,oblt rucWaft all cordial! zealous Presbyterian?., ail which no doubt are done to give the Presbyterians liberty of ~~ Conscience and Practices of the Settarier. 6j Conference, and now they give the Presbyterians good words viz. that they will fend them packing to Romejhtt ic were a good deed they were hanged, and knocked on the head, their gats goared out, that tbey are Antichriftian Priefts, curled Priefts, damned Priefts, wlthfuch like; all which no doubt are forerunners of the liber- ty of Confcience the Sectaries intend for the Presbyteriansjand for proof I will give Cretenfis a few inftances. The fir ft is from Lynnc fa place well known co Cretenfis) concerning one Johnfon a Secta- ry and a Cannoneer, who difcourfing concerning Presbyterians c and Independents, faid that Presbyterians would have their guts * goared outjand being anfwered that the presbyteriall government e-^ c was ordered by both Houfes of Parliament, and that he being in This fait o? toi cthe fervice ought not to fpeak againit them,he anfwered for al that, anda^tnwCoiS c they mould have their guts goared out : Now this and more will of this given me be averred upon oath, and is fubferibed by four hands, John Feely, theWemti" Robert Ctttford, Tbomai Ellis, Richard Robin/on, March 7. 1 645. The fecond is of my (elf, told unto me both by a godly Minifter, and by a gentleman of worth and honefty, who were eare winer- ies 5 namely, that it was pitiel was not hanged for an example for making my laft Book, and that it were a good deed I were knockt on the head. A third is of another Minifter, a Presbyte- i \ rian3an active man, fome Independents in the hearing of a Mini- fter (who relates it) (aid they hoped ere long to fee him in Lollards Tower. The laft I fhall inftance in,is a paflage out of a Letter fent from Dover fubferibed by five hands ; concerning an Independent thereone Mafter CMajcaU, that in his expounding the Scriptures, _.,. _ . , . , .. , r . *? n r r T his Letter was with much vehemency cries out to the people againit our prefenc written to a miniftery, your Priefts ,y ottr damned Priefts, your curfed Priefts^ &c, jjgjjjy - of ^ Now Cretenfis I challenge you in all my blottdy negotiation againft the whole i*tier the Sectaries (as you phrafe it) to (how in any of my Books any frjfted^;'^ luch pailages againit the Sectaries as thefe are, or any 10 bitter as I wards. can produce out of yours and other of your Saints Books, as At* raignment of Perficution^-c. Cretenfis in Se£b 18. and r 9. layes downe foure things, 1. That in the 70, Error of the Catalogue I intended to arraign his opini- on concerning the imputation of Faith, and non-imputation ofCbriftr righteoufmftein Jujlification. 2. That I do falfly and forgingly reprefent the "opinion by fathering that mungrell expreffion T* K 2 crtkrt 6S AfurtberDtfcweryofthtErroun credere upon it, and which is no where ufed by him throughout the Controvcrfie. 3. Th it I charge him to quote Calvin, Bticer, and others for his opinion in the point of Juftification, whom yet I affirmtobeproRfledlyof another judgement in the Doftrine of JttftifisathHi which he declares to befatte, and chen quotes feme places out of C.thinytSaeer, for thejuftifying of feimfeif, and dif- proving my former Allegation. 4. He recriminates > afper(es> and jears at me, that in my going about to re&ifie the miftakes of others, £nd being the grear A< iftarchw of the Errours, andHe- refiesof the times, have my (elf vented Atheologicall and putid affertions in the point of Jnftifica tion, as in Gjngr it being ufed commonly by all Divines that handle this opinion,both by the Orthodox who writ againft it, and thole who are for it: AminitH holding this opinion, u(ed this expreflion as learned Qomarm in a Conference held with * ArmiviM, proved *Pr«f*uatiEcci- ftomArminius own hand writing, wherein he maintained that in ^/™J/iw2?f mans juftification before God,tbe righteoufnefle of Chrift not to be imputed to /uftification, but faith it (elf or T3 credere by the gracious acceptance of God to be that righteoufnefle of ours by which we are juftifiei before God; yea and Mailer * Walton him- * Wort0n A (elf Cretco/i/ Matter fpeaks to, but when we fay faith juftifies, we Ktcwu.pan 2. underftand ipjum credere^ TJwtVwr, 3. For that charge againft f7l^?6-,l5'm* Cretenfit of quoting Calvin, *Buc< r, and others for him when they are known ex profeffi to be of another judgement, 9cis mod true and juft , and a man would wonder at the impudency ofCreten- fir to deny it, and to quote Calvin and Bucer again as he does; and before I have done with Cretenfis it (hall appear that I will make good the charge againft him, and yet neither (how my Cdfst very illiterate man, not able to conftrue a peece of plan Latin, nor yet charge Calvin, Luther, and the reft with being of a judge- ment contrary to themfelves, but difcover him to be an impudent caviller and falfiher of Authors. As for thofe very places quoted by him out of Calvin, they prove not the thing he quotes them for,and therefore did wifely forbear to englifli them:He wretched- ly and miferably wrefts them, as that on Galatb. 5. 6. where Cal- vin both in the words going before the words quoted by Cretenfi/, and afterwards at large, (howes he takes faith not in a proper fenie, but in a Relative, receding the object ; and to fatisfie the Reader, I will quote Calvins words upon that place next immediarlyfol- lowing the fentence quoted by him out of Calvin. Ergojufiificari fide dicimnrjion quia fides habitum ant qxalitatemin nor trans fandat : fed qui* Deo accept i fumm. Cur autem fidti tribuitw UntM honor, wvocetur can fa j%ftitUnoftr£'y primo fciendnm eft ejfi can f am in- fir anient akm duntaxat$nam proprie hquendo,jttftitia no fir a nihil a- Und efi qmm gramita Dei acceptio, in qua fandata efi nofira fa- K 3. to* 70 A further Discovery of the Ertourt lus : S^d quit Dominus teftimon'uim amoris ncbii amoris fid & gra- tu per Evangelism* reddendo, Mam qnam dixi juftiiiam nobis com- nmnictt : ideo fiie Mam percipimiis. Ergo quum fidei iribuimut ho- minii jttfiificatimem non decaufa principals difyxtamtH; fsdtantum mtamui modnmqm pervemnnt homines ad veram jufiitiam. J*fti* t'ta tnim bi$utno^ChriftsrighteoufneiTe>and for proof of this the Reader fipadco. ' er" may peruie M- Robor. examination of Cretenfis Treatife of Juftifi- cation, firft part page $> 10. where he fhowes that all our Divines are againft F^i^ in a proper fenfe, Luther, Calvin, Hucer, Pareus, Vrfinus,Mujculw,&c. (however Arminius and Berlins were for it) unto which Cretenfis never to this day made any Reply (though he vapors and brags thus of his opinion of Imputation of Faith) So alio the Preface to the Churches let before the A&s of the Synod oiDort fhowes the fame by Gotnams particularly in(lancingin,and convincing Arminius of his Hetorodoxnes from holding of this opi- nion, that m Juftirlcation the righteoumefle of Chrift was not in> puted,but beleeving : And now considering all this,and much more that hath been faid and written to Cretenfis , I cannot but wonder he mould be fuch an impudent Cretenfis as to bring thefe places out of Calvin, BHcer>Pareush and can give no other reafon of ir, but that of Paul to Titus concerning Hereticks, that the man fins in this, being condemned ofbimjelf; and for this Error, and many more which Cretenfis holds (notwkhftanding all his palliating and daubing; I hold them fo great3 and the differences in opinions between andPniBifes of the SeHarnt. 7 1 between him and I to be of fuch moment,that as Gomarm told+sfr- mimmJMt durft not appear before the judgement feate ofChrift with his opinions, fo neither would I with Cretenfis opinions, nor his wayes of managing them for a thoufand worlds : As for Cretenfis charging me with venting errours in the point of \\ cation, whiift I was reckoning up the errours of others, I reply, Cretenfis takes advantage from a word or two left out by the Printer in the margin of my Book, which was not the fault of my Copie as I am ready to fatisfie any man,a,nd to make it appeare un- deniably ,befides in the fecond impreiTion of my Book (which came forth full foureteen dayes before Cretenfis Anfwer) the miftake was amendcd;however the fenfe of the words before it was amen- ded eafily {hewed where the fault was, though Cretenfis- ag- gravate it fo high as to make it amount to Atheologicail and pu- tid aflertions. But in one word to flop the mouth of Cretenfis what I fay of Juftifkation in the margin of page 22. tis verbatim to a tittle in the new Annotations on the Bible made by the joynt labours of certaine learned Divines appointed thereunto b\ thority,and whatever in thefirft impreiTion wasmiftaken in than particular by the fault of the Printer* was in the feeond long b- Cretenfis Animadverfions amended by me , fo that the Reader may obferve that Cretenfis for want of matter tindes fault where the fault is confefled to his hand * and had I any hope Cretenfis could underftand Latine when it makes againft his opinion of the imputation of faith,and would be convinced, I would turne hint over to divers learned men to cngliih their latine fentences, as Peter Martyr \Lubbertm .Slbrandm &c.where the man ihould read other manner of evidence againft non-imputation of faith,and for imputation of Chrifts righteoufnefle, then ever he yet offered in all his fermons and difcourfes about juftifkation; but for a concluiioi- , Cretenfis anfwer me one queftion, why did you net as well ex- cept againft fome other opinions named in my Catalogue. 84. 85. as this 70. of faith in a proper fenfe imputed to j fxation; you were as much named and particularized in thv ii as in this , and they call you Father as well as this 5 but I fop pole the reafon, you were not yet willing in publike to owne thole Chiidren,and fo would take no' notice of them, though I doubt hot thofe, & other things laid down in myBook (though without name 7 2 A further Difcovery of the Etrours name writen upon them) enraged you,and have made you as a Bear robbed of her whelps,to think that I (hou-ld know fo much by you. Cr^^/^page,27.fec1:.22.1abours to cleare himfelf from a paffage^ I charged him with that he fhould utter in a Sermon againft the Parliament and their power, &c. ' faying it was nothing elfe but a 'manifeft and clear truth, and that which had pafed thetriailof c Presbyterian fire it felf,and was come forth in full weight without buffering the leaft dammage or detriment by it, and if anyfuch c gap was opened by it to flight their Authority and power, he c knowes no wild Beads have broke in at it,but fome Presbyterians, ' and then goeth on according to his Dialed to inveigh againft me fforftrikcingatthe root of Parliamentary Authority and power, becaufe that I flnde fault with his truth(as he calls it) viz. his fpeak- ing fo diigracefuily and contemptibly of the Parliament. O the lm pudency and incorrigblenefle ol Cretenfis after fo high R'M* an offence committed by him againft Parliamentary Authority, complained of to a Committee of Parliament, upon the debate of it judged by fome of the Committee to be an offence ofrhat high nature,that thefe words were expreOed of him, and ofhisoftence that he as much or rather more deferved to be hanged then the Arch-Bifh.yea the whole Committee judged it of fuch a nature and crime, as too great for them to cenfurc, lo that it was ordered to be reported by the Chair-man to the Houfeitfelf, andMafter white told me more then once he was by order of the Commit- tee to report it (though by many great bufinefles of the King- dome he was hindered) now I lay that after all this Cretenfis fhould in the fight of the funjuftifie.it for a manifeft and clear truth, and fly out upon me and my Abbettors for finding fault with o him,is a ftrange hight ; certainly Cretenfis if what you had faid had Trurif rriun?pt- been fuch a manifeft and clear truth, tis wonder fuch words (hould ing over F.if- be fpoken in the Committee of it, and the thing ordered to be re- v^tvlt.nd in ported to the Houfe it felf as to high for a Committee $ and that ihe BZ^ L°3 y°ur words fpoken againft the Parliament were rot a manifeft, M^nbPtki^ truth; 1 refer the Reader to fuch a Book of M * Prjns, to your own down bh fajjage, confetfion in your Anfwer to him, and to the Record kept by the hamLtJndcon- Committee for Plundred Minifters. *ml"Uyh"i7i As for the reafon you intimate why that which wras uttered by {ieadw"f*r thr»you,\V2s nothing elfe bwt manifeft and clear truth , becaufe it hath pafled and PraQtfes of the Se&ariet. y 3 pafied the trial! of Presbyterian fire ic (elf, and is come forth in full waight, without differing the leaft dammage or detriment of zt, that is,upon complaint and examination of it by a Committee of Parliament you are come off,and not cenfured. I Reply, the Reader may oblerve that Presbyterian fire is a cooler fbfccr gent- ler fire then the Independent fire , and that the Presbyterians are not fo hot crying for fire from bell to dejlroj all tbofe who receive the Lord C&rift9 onl, becauje their faces we not injiantly fet to receive the Traditions of tint Vifcip line and!) oU^ine^ for Craenjzs hath patted the triaii cf Presbyterian fire it feif, and is come forth infull weight without fufTering the leaft damage or detriment by it: I be- leeve if etcher I, or any known cordial! Presbyterian in England in ipeaking againft the Independent party,had faid forruch to the vili- fying and contempt ofthe Parliament as Crcttnft did, in fpeak!ng a- gainftPi-esbyt.& we had come to the trial of Independent fire ic (elf, we mould never have come forth in ful weight without ujfFering the leaft damage or detriment by it, but we fhould have carried to our graves the torching & skars of chat fire/if not wholy confirmed by is 2* Though you were one of the firft, yet you are not alone, nor the kft ofchoiewhoby writing or (peaking having uttered things againft the Parliamentjand being queftioned by Committees have pafled the triall of Presbyterian fire,and come oft too/a kntiTe your bro.herLz7£«r*?,andyet all they have faid and wricten,have not been manifeftand clear truths : You who are Independents and S§&a- rieshavepriviiedgesin many things which poore Presbyterians have not; youhaveapriviledge to fteale horfes, whereases a &#&f$%-$* great fault in Presbyterians to look over the hedge^you have a pri- viledge to fet up Churches and a Government of your own with- out lea ve,or waiting on the Parliament ; but 'tis a great offence in the Presbyterians to Petition the Parliament in ali humility to fet- tle the Presbyterian Governmenr^witnefle thole many reproaches in fome printed newes Books(tho(e penfiorrers ofthe Independent party) as alfo the bitter preaching againft their Petitions by fomz Jndepend. Minifters, with the hard fpeechescaft out againft them by the Independent party, You belike have a priv-Iedge to preach, print, fpeak any thing againft Parli.their OrdinanceSjOrders, Co- venant, Members,yea to aft againft their VoteSjOrdinaces,^ topajfi the tmUofEwh)tmm Jfa(as you terms it) andu com f nth in fall h weight tf 2 d further Difcovery of the Errours rraigbt without fitffering the lesft dammage or dtfri/wtftf, whereas I am perfwaded a great deal lefle preached or printed by Presbyte* rians, would have been cenfured to be buriic by the hand of the common Hangman, arid the men themfeives in danger of hanging. Thirdly , Cretenfis, you have no fuch great reafon to boaft /b of what you have preach'd,that tis a manifest and clear truth3and hath paffed the Presbyterian fire it (elf, and is come forth in full waighc, &c. till you know what the fenfe of the Houfe of Com- mons will be upon it 5 when »cis reported to the Houfe according to the order of the Committee, and the Houfe hath cleared you, then you might better have ufedthele wordsjbuc Cretenfis ^though you fay the bitterneffe of death is pair 9 all danger is over, you may be deceived, qmd deferturnon aufertur^thc Houfe may be at more leafureand call upon fuch kinde of things and upon a review you maybe made to know what 'tis, not only to flight and villifie a Parliament , open a gap to a totall contempt of all their Authority and power, but when you have done fo,then openly and publikly to juftifie that what you have faid is amanifeft and clear truh. Cretenfis I tell you plainly, I would not for all the Books in my ftudie,the Independents could prove fuch words fpoken by me againft the power and dignity of Parliament how light account foever you make of them. Fourthly, the Reader may by this clearly fee what to judge of Overcharging me &my Book with lying forgery, &c.when as he is not a (hamed to tax rae in this place,that I could not lightly have littered any thing that {truck more dangeroufly at the very root of all Parliamentary Authority and power, then to fay that Cretenfis in fpeakirsg againft the Parliament and their power,opsned a gap to flighting of their authority and power jwhat a ftrange art and facul- ty hath Cretin* as of making all Authors for him,though they writ againft him; fo f making Mafter Edwards y and his Abettors in pleading for the Parliament againft Cretenfis , to ftrike dangeroufly at the very root of all Parliamentary Authority and power > and that notw ithftanding for the words fietenfis fpake againft the Par- liament he was complained of to the Committee of Plundered Ministers by underftanding men and cordiall to the Parliament and the matter fo deeply refented by the Honourable Committee, as I have already exprefleel ; but the truth of it is, Crenfis in all his writings, and PraSifes of the Se&aria. 6% writings both in point of opinions, and words that he utters in de- fence of them, he will (ay any thing as manifeft ly contrary to truth, as to affirme black is white5and darknefle light; net* her will he be beaten out of it by any reafon, but hides himfelfi and cloudes things in a multitude or words, where an ordinary Reader loofes himfelf as in a wood. Fifthly, 'tis ftrange Cretenfu, you dare fay that you know none but Presb) terians have broken in at the gap you have made,do you not know what LHburne hath dont>be(ides have you not read Eng- lands Birthright^ The Ordinance for Tytbes ViJ mounted} cum multis alia > you indeed led the way , and was the firft of all the pretend- ed friends to the Parliament (out of difcontent in miffing a place in the Affimbly) who fpake fo (lightly and (cornfully of the Parli- ament ; but many have followed you and broken inane, both in Sermons, Difcour(es, printed Books, efpecially when any thing the Parliament was about difpleafed them : but as for the Presbyte- rians re(pe£b, duty, patient waiting on the Parliament,as 'cis alrea- dy evident to many; (o I doubt not,but in due time it will be mani- fcfted to all the world to their Honour, and the (hame of the Inde- pendent party, & I challenge you to inftance in any one Presbyteri- an, who hath either abufed the whole Parliament, or fingled out many particular Members by name, as many of your Sectaries have done;but cf the difference in the carriag and behaviour of the Pref- byterians to the Parliament,and of the Sectaries to the Parliament, I have at large fatisfied the Reader in Gangrtna , page 56,57,58, 59,60,61. all which Cretenfis takes no notice of, not giving the leaft am'wer unto it, and therefore Cretenfis before you vapour any more in this kinde, remember in your Rejoynder, to anfwer all I have faid againft your party , in thofe pages now mentioned, Cretenfis^ Seft. 23. makes a great deal of do, fpendingman? leaves, in excufing himfelf, and feme of his Church for bowling onadayofapublikThankfgiving, and indirect walking between the two Townes of Gj- tt dalm'wg in Surry, and Vnnmow in Eflex ; and that if there be no *c remedy5it will be content to fubmit it (elf to the PreiTe,and there- iC fore concludes if I go ontj lay open the Se&ai ies 5 1 have de- u voted the narres and reputation of all Presbyterians who are ob- viz 1. that we may fee Independents have a friviledg ofeaje, yea, and of prophaneife too, to lit idle at home, or waik abroad to take t heir pleafure, when the poor Presbyterians are either preaching or praying, or elfe joyning chemfelves to the Aflemblies,where preaching,pray er, and other holy wormips are performing 5 and if Qrttmfis will pretend he was a ufeary of his preaching in the forenoon, andfo ib me what indi/pofed to further labour that day5lanfwer,this is juft Biftiop like/who when their Lordftips had preached in a fore- noon , they were (b weary they could not fo much as come to Church-that afternoon} but Cretenfit, though you were Co weary as you could not preach, could you not have come, and given thanks for the victory $ nay ,if that had been too muchtrc uble for your Lord(hip becaufe of your great wearinefie and indifpofed* nefle after your great labours, to have gon abroad to fbme of the Presbyterians Cnurch.es 5 could you not have gathered your Church together in your houfe, appointed fome of you? Prophets to have excercifed , and you only have (ate by as at other times> refting your weary boncs.Truiy Cretenfis, in my minde thtsisa very poor put off, and (brry (hifc 2. Cretcnfis for a!i his wear ineflTe and indifpofednefle to further labour of preaching, or hearing that day,yet was Co eager upon his (ports that he knew not how the time went away making a. long half houre, reckoning half anhourefor two houres; but Qntmlis might eafily miftake in this, and I fliall excufe him, it being ufuall for men in their (ports to think time ftiort, and to ) udge they have aot been an houre when they have been playing two or thi£e$ but L $ 58 A further Discovery of the Err ours I will fpare Cretenfis and animadvert no farther for prefent, neither on the ftory nor on his Animadverfions upon it. Secondly, as for that Cretenfis brings by way of excufe , lome Presbyterians played with him,&c. I Anfwer, it was their fault and 0 one, neither will I go about to plead for Baal, nor palliate excufe things that are evill in Presbyterians as Cretenfis doth all kind of horrid Blafphemies and Herelies in his Se&aries; however Cretenfis is never the lefle in fault becaufe of company, and indeed Cretenfis being a Minifter, (hould have given them (being private Chri (Hans J better ex am pie, befides, who knowes but Cretenfis example drew thefe Presbyterians to it, and further *cis likely thefe Presbyterians had been in the aftenoon at fome Presbyterian Church, offered up to God both a morning and evening facrifice of thankfgiving , came from home later then Cretenfis and his Brethren, neither doth Cretenfis fay the Presbyterians came forth with hira, but as he tels his own tale, he relates that after his walk- ing about a quarter of a mile ( which might be a mile, as well as his halfehoures bowling two houres)and after his coming into the Garden, and fitting about halfe an houre in an Arbour (which we may well reckon for an houre to) came in fbme ofUWafler Edwards judgement ofChurch*Government,al which being considered makes the matter not fo bad in the Presbyterians as in Cntenfts, hut fupf o* fing all this, yet I will not excufe them. Thirdly, as for that ftory of one of the Afiembly wih three more of his com or fub- Presbyters, rather foure Minifters in all (exprefled by Cretenfis all along in a fcoffing, yea in a prophane manner, bringing in heaven and Gods providence to make up his jefts and jears) fpending a whole afcernoon upon a day of Thankf- giving in fifhing, I greatly blame them, and if there was any fuch thing,theyhavecaufetobeafhamedof it as well as you for your bowling; and it had been fitter for them foure Minifters to have been fifhing for the fouls of men, preaching fomewhere in the af- ter noon, then a catching of Roaches; and thus you fee Cretenfis I am impartiall, not ("like the Independents^) excufing all things in Presbyterians as they in Seftaries though never fo vild, and there- fore your Proverb of Presbyterians having a priviledge to fieale Horfis holds not as you fee, for I am againft a Tolmratknoj them to hoh^ &w. Fourth- and PraSifes of the SeSarks. $o Fourthly, As for your threats of discovering Presbyterian mi- ftakes in the night, and to leave the world to judge whether they be not worfe then Independents bowling on dayes, &c. and of the ftoryof a Presbyterian Angel which you will clap to my mouth, and flop it for ever; Ianfwer,doyourworft,difcover what 7Vf/£ bjtcrian mijlakgs in the night you can, and tell what ftories you pleafeofa P,tshyterian Angel \ I fear you not, it will not ftop my mouth: I blefle God, he who keepeth the feet of bis Saints, hath fbpreferved me,thac I care not what all the Sectaries under hea- ven can fay againft me, I bleflfe God I have whereof to rejoyce and glory before men (though before God I know my manifold weak- ness and tranfgreffions, and have nothing to glory in but the free mercy of God, and the righteoufnefie of Jefus ChriftJ and there- fore Cretenfis if you mean me, by miflahgs in the night , and by the Presbyterian Angd(tt your words icem to infinuate, fpeaking un- to me,and the Reader may be apt to take your meaning fo) fpeak out, do your word, I defie you aad all your company to prove any fuch things, or but the fufpition of them* for I muft tell you Cre- tenftf, I have ever fince I came to be a Preacher of the Gofpel walk- ed by that rule of the Aponi?, providing honeft things, not only in fight of the Lord, but in the fight of men : And as for other Presby- terian Minifters, if any of them have walked loofely and (canda* loufly let them look to it, I will be no Patron for them, neither will I have my mouth flopped from opening the Errours,Herefies, Pra&ifesof the Sectaries, or laying open by name Impoftors and Seducers to gratifie the concealment of Something foul in a Pre£ byterian, let them bear the fliameof it for all me, and give God glory in confefling; only I would defire Cretenfis and the Reader to obferve the difference between my Difcourfe of Errors, Here- fies, and pra&ifes in Sectaries, and Cretenfis difcovery threatned. 1. Cretenfis Difcovery will be out of revenge,mallice, because the Errors of che Sectaries are laid open,and which otherwife he implies Should not have been di(covered3and if I would ceafe laying open the Errors of the times, thofe ftories mould never have come to light; but now my Catalogue was and is purely out of confeience, not out of ill-will to any man, but to prefer ve many from falling, and to recover others before they are gone too farre. 2. The Errours, praftifes, wayea which Hay down throughout my m 8 o A further Difcovery of the Errours nvyBook, a :e the very principles and wayes of the Sectaries as fuch fe&aries, either being their Opinions, or flowing neceflarily from them,qr are meanes made ufc of by them to increase their way, compafle their defigns, whereas any perfonall mifcarriagesofthe Presbyterians are far from falling under any fuch confideraiions; but the fruits of the flefh and Satan taking advantage upon them, of which things they have nc fruit, but areaftiamed andtme repenced. Thirdly,thefe Errors,and pra&ifes in the Sectaries are now four d in thcm,cleavmg to them ilnce,and not before they turn'dSe&aries^ whereas thele mifcarriages of the Presbyterians,are not now upon them, nor never iince they were Presbyterians, but may be many yeers before, when Epifcopall and foolifh. Fourchly,the Independents and Sectaries cry up themfelves and their way as a purer holier way then other mens,making themfelves the only Saints, the Paradhe of God, ihe tender confeienced men, xhcreup. n ftparating from ourChurches and accounting the Pref- byrerians as a dunghill; which kind of notion among the people, crying the Saints,the Saints, tender confeiences hath gained them more then all their Arguments; and therefore to take off this Argument, 'tis neceffary to fliow they are not holier then other?, rich her have tenderer confeiences, but are loofer, and larger confei- enced men; And I aske Crttenfis when as BtUarmim Be other Pspiils * WMtaker. Se- Dri°g againft Proteftanrs holinefle Of life as a note of the Church end ccniro.^De of Rome, and boaft of the great holincflethac is in their Church a- z^f^f'^' bovewhatisin tbeProteftants; whether do not the * Proteftants " Tapljitci Dctiores Juftly and properly to difprove them, give inftances and ftories of totps&fcetewi t|ie |cked |- anj wayes of manyPapifts.beiides of the Do&rines yivunt «*.*«, a m the Church of .Rowland if the r roteftancs do it and are blameles, Tyumv^tLf°ad ^0W can it be a fault in Presbyterians to do the fame, when they infimumufq; p<*- are to an(wrer the Sectaries i but now the Presbyterians do not fe- Z!m*vi Sparate from the Independents out of pretences of greater holines, fed flagiti* eti< nor cry up themfches in Sermons and Books as the only Saints, inter fSZTnpe* and therefore the Independents cannot fo juftly bring thefe things riuatur. vide ib} againft the Presbyterians^ the Presbyterians againft them. WUHs Synopf. Second General! Controverfie of the Church, Qjcft. j . of the rotes and marks of the Church, f*£. 9& ^i- me/i. Bellarm, Mnervat, Pe Njth Malefi**lega?Hur igmr v'}\A Xontificw Rewwerww, de StnQitattf gontijicun, Fifthly, aid Pra&ifis of the SeSarks. 8 1 Fifthly, as for that Manufcript which came to Cretenfis above a yeer ilnce concerning Matter iaWrir which difcourfeth his jug- ling and indired walking betwen the two Towns of Godalming in Surrey and Dunmow in Ejfex, which will be attefted by good hands, and be content to fubmic it felf to the PreiVe ; I Reply, let Cretenfis print it when he pleafe, I challenge him to do it, fo he print nothing but what he wil make good,I remember tis a lpeech of famous Matter Bolton in fome of his works, Innocencj and In* dependency makes men of the bravefl Jpirits, I blefle God I have In- nocency, knowing nothing by my felf of fault in this matter,and I have Independency, being an Independent in a true notion, not hanging upon great men, nor hunting after preferments and great Livings, and I defire the Reader to obferve what I fhall fay of this matter, Cretenfis could hardly have inftanced in abufinefle to make more for my praife,& his fhame,thenthis;and if he be able to give me any one inftance of an Independent and Sedane, that hath fo denyed himfelf for the publik, and forftrangers, as I did in that, I fhall begin to think there are Independents in England, who feek the publik good,and not thier own things. And for the matter of Dunmour, 1 have fo much certainty and confidence of it, that if it were known commonly, it would turne to my great honour (which here Cretenfis threatens me with as a matter of reproach, and indeed the only thing, which belike Cretenfis in all his gather- ing,and inquinngs after me, could light upon to upbraid me with) as that I dare refer it and ftand to the arbitrament of Matter Tho- rn us Goodwin , Matter Burr owes, Matter Bridge, ( whom all the world knows, through difference of judgement, are not my bett friends) whether in that bufineffe I be to be blamed, or rather have not done a lingular thing , and like a man who hath walked circumfpeclly, avoiding all appearance of evill;and truly Cretenfis, you may give a lofer leave to fpeak, which for the prefent I fhaJi do breirly,(referving the large relation, both of ;znd without it,as things ftood in that cafe ( the particulars whereof, with that whole bufinfl'e from firft to iaft , I fhall hereafter relate at large)it was judged both by godly Minifters and the people, (and therefore I earneftly entreated to give way to it) there was no other way to effect it- which title I held for a few weeks, meer- fy for the good of the people, till an able and fit man could be found out for the place ; in which time that my name was pitt- ing in,and was in , though I was put to a great deal of trouble and fome charge in journies , riding three feverall times to Dunwowjodides other expences for the good of the plaee,as in dif- appointing men to come in upon them , andotherwife (for there were many difficulties in the bufinefle , as will appear when I fhail give a full relation of it, and that occafioned by a Sectarie or two,partiy out of ill will to me,and for feare I fhould have gon thither, and partly out of difappointment of fome reward and thanks,which one of the Sectaries expected in cafe one faire for it had come into the place , as may without all breach of charity be conjectured by words heard by two godly perfons of 'Dunmow Towne) and though (my name being made ufe of) the profits were abfolutly fequeftred to me at fuch a time of the year , as that I could have made my felf whole , yea, a great gainer, yet I never took penny nor farthing of the Living, no not io much as one penny to pay the charges I had been put unto, for the ne~ ceffary preferving of the Living to the Towne , nor never had penny to this day (which though I coaceivel might with a good tonfcience have taken , there being no reafon I ihould go to war at my own charge ) yet becaufe that I might honour the Goipel, and take away all occafion from thofewho would feek to fpeak evill of me -y and becaufe if I had taken any thing, it might have been interpretedand reported a great deal more- befides ail might wot have known che reafon of it, therfore I forbar fo much as ever md Praftifes of the SeSaritr. 8* to receive or touch one penny belonging to ~Dunmorp<, and trulyl bts- leeve if the perfons be enquired of who cheifly laboured in this bu- (lnefle,to bring in a godly able man to Bunmoyo, & know all para- ges (men who are meer {hangers to me fave only in this bufmefle) will fay fuch was my care,paines,and faithfullnede for their Towa (in the midft of many intervenient difficulties caft in by fome in- struments , who either had a minde to the place , or hoped for fomething, ) that Dtmmow hath great reafon to bleffe God for me,and that I was to them as one not feeking my own things,but the things of Jefus Chnft, their fpirituall good : And now Cre- tenfis , print when you pkafe your Manuscript you have by you, only be lure it be not drawn up by fome perfons, who by my meaneswere kept out of the Livings of Dnamo&\ m&ofGodat- mizg , or by fome who would have brought them in ; but be- ing difappointed of their ends, were vexed,and imagining I might have converted the meanes of DttnrnoW' to my ufe,(becaufe they would have, done fo,if it had been in their power) thought to be revenged of me by drawing up a ftory of my jugling, and indirect walking, and putting it into the hand.of Matter Goodwin, to make his ufe of; but Cretenfs, let me tel you ( however Independents, and Sedaries ufe to juggle and walk indiredly) I hate jugling,and indired walking, and am a plain open-hearted man, and I will give you leave to follow me, in all places this 22. yeers laftpaft where I have lived and preached, from Cambridge to Walden^nd from Walden to London, and in London from one place and Church to another, and from London to Harford, and Harford to Loudon, and from London to IJleworth, and from Ijleftorth to Go- dalming, &c. and to charge me juftly if you can with jugling and indirect walking: I am confident that in all thofe places I have left a good favor, and none will blame me either for life or Dodrine unJefle they be Sectaries or Cavaliers, yea I know there are fome Independents who were fo convinced of my diligence, painful- nefle in my wrork, unblameable good convention, that however they love me not for oppofing their way, yet upon all occasi- ons will teftifie for me agatnft the fury and violence of fome: But Cretenfis \zx. me tell you, I wonder how you dare fpeak •of my, jughngs and indired walking, when as lost risks ,and jug- lings of your party *refo many, andfo jnanjfeft to all the world : M z I could g^ A further Difcover) oj the Erronrs I could write a good large Book of this Subject, the juglings, Indirect walkings , equivocations of the Sectaries, yea of their jugling between two Places and things : I could tell Cretenfis now (but that I muft remember tts not my large Reply) of his jugKngs and indirect walkings between his Fellow- ship in the Colledge and a wife (both againft the Statutes , and I think againft his oath)between the two towns of Ray mm m&Ljny between Raynum and Yarmouth, Raynum and Norwich* between Ray mm and London* between his two Churches and Livings, his Parifh. Church, and his new feparated Church, between his Vica- ridge of Coleman ftreet after Voted to be Sequeftred, and his ga- thered Church ; as alfo his juglings in his Sermons and difcourfes, faying and unfaying, affirming and denying, but I fpare him • I could tell Cretenfs of Matter Peters juglings and indirect walk- ing for four yeers by gone between old England and new England* having every Spring taken his leave in the Pulpit of old England* and yet he is not gone;of his jugling and indirect walking between * vid. Mimrs m the Weft and London, London and other Countries to make * Bur- tE5?o5u^s for Parliament; I could relate alfo Mafter ^/// his halt- rave cbat ubrqui. ings between Giles Crip legate and New England*bzx.vitzn Mafter .^faUiatw/aS w*ik*r anc^ trie money for the poore childrens fening over to ftidderatmoftof New England* I could tell a ftory of an Independent Minifter Maft^H^pi! who fought to have, and actually had about forefcore pounds for «rj a great df ale that which he never preached one Sermon for, coming into the unfict^g^Ins* Sequeftration about Michaelmas after all the Harveft was in 5 as (bitidntion, and alfo of another Independent Minifter {who hath got well with pr? to fthee peo- ms ricling between places) who had forty pounds in ready money pies great difguft, upon his admittance to be Chaplain of a Regiment, who after he ™ehlL°r7, and ^acl received it, never came at them,nor looked after them,not fo savanfing the de. much as giving one Sermon,or ever provided any man in his place: lignscfhisparty. j couW tdJ ^tfc[€ jjjgap and ftiuffiings of the Independents a- bout their new Modell of Church Government, their many pre- tended exeufes why they put it not forth, as alfo of Indepen- dents juglings and indited walkings to the rating of their own rsJfii *£& foundations^)©* in the point of the * Sacrament and Church Go- datiwaf •*>3,4,5. vernment, but I fpare them for prefent. In one word, the Reader may fee the clear difference between my juglings and indirect walkings between Godalming and 'Dtmmm and the Independents m walk- and fraSifa of the %tSarks. 8 5 walkings, they take 40- pounds nay 8c, li. for preaching never a Sermon,taking never a journey ,being at no coft3pains nor trouble; but Matter Sdwards makes three journies from London to Dun- mow backward and forwards (each journey being rgfj; miles) preaches Sermons when he comes there, is at a great deale of trouble in London^ yea and fome charge for the good ofDunmotry and when many pounds lies inhis power to pay himfeif well for all this, he takes not one penny nor farthing, and is not Matter Ed- wards then a great jugler and indirect walker ? Cretenfis^ fliow me but fuch an Independent Jugler and indirect walker guilty of this fault, St erls mM magnm Apollo ; Certainly Cretenfis if your informations of Presbyterian miftakes in the night, and your ft ory of a Presbyterian Angel wherewith you threaten me if I meddle any more with the Independents prove no better then the Ma- nufcriptb] you Which cam: to your hands about a year fincc concer- ning Majfcr Edwards himfeif, Which difcourfcth his pigling and indiretl Walking between Godalming and Dunmow, inftead of hurting the names and reputations of Presbyterians , and niakwg them jo many dead cor pfes , they will caufe the names and reputa- tions of Cret enfis and his Informers to be like fo many (linking Carrions, and by this one inftance of Cretenfis 7i eenhUl had never at any meeting declared to Mafter Boroughs and others any (uch opinions, nor never any fuch difcourfe in reference to thofe opinions had palled between Mafter Boroughs and Mafter G>-eenhi!l3 as is fet down by me; This is the Engl iflb and common conftrudion which all people ( who beleeve Matter Boroughs) make of this writing, crying out O what a lyar is Mafter Edwards^ and what a lying Book is Gangron my af- firming the truthof the ftory, and that I mould prove it ; Now granting all tjvis to. be tru^ (though fume part of it I much que- ftionj yet my: flory i$ n&t niade^fe by this;eforI do not in my Gang to afTure them they will ftand by them againft the Presby- terians $ they greedily catch at the miftake of a circumft againft whom there have been many other complaints and depofitions for nrifcarriages and mKdemeanors (as I am certainly informed) yea among others for abufing a worthy Member of the Houfeof Commons, when as Matter Burroughs teftimony proves fo invalid, and the whole ftory of Nichols (excepting only one miftake in the tranfition of it from one part to the other J proves all true, }ea and more too then I have fct down, as appears both by what I havefaid already, and from Mafter Alms printed Re- lation,being a man from whom I had the firft Relation of this ftory : Now by this time I conceive all men know what to judge of Mafter Burroughs text, and Cretenfis his Commentary ^nd Application, and muft conclude Cretenfis had little reafbn to make fuch tragicall out- cries, and a great noyfeof branding this ftory of Nichols (as if there had never been any fuch man in the World , nor no fuch opinions held by any, nor never no (uch difcourfe between Mr. Burroughs and Mr.Gfeenbill) with particular forgeries in it, numerate beyond mtafitre. And for a conclufion of my Reply both to Cretenfis and Mafter Burroughs writing, I retort thus upon Cretenfis, in his own words a little changed : that long formali ftory of one Nichols living about Moore fields coming into Stepny parifti to draw away people ; That to Mr. Greenhils face did juftifie and maintain many wicked opinions, 8cc* upon occafion whereof at a meeting where Mafter Green- bill, Mafter Burroughs and many others were, which meeting was, viz,& little before Mafter Burroughs fell upom the preaching of the power of the Magiftrate in matters of Religion,and the point of Toleration j At which meeting Mafter Burroughs and Mafter Greenhill, whh others fpake many good words, particularly Mr. Burroughs , in regard of thefe things, matters being fo, there was a necelfite of the Government of the Church, and of the power of the Magiftrate, &c. This ftory is long, and the particulars in it true beyond queftion : In which refpeft I defire the Reader prefently and PraSifes of the SeSaritt. 97 prefently co make the computation, which he may do with exacV nefTe enough, if he (hall pleafe co compare Matter Edtwrds his Relation in Gangwa, this Reply, and Mafter Aliens Relation anent this bufinefle, with the lines received by Cr etenfis from Mr. 'Burroughs himfelf in writing, and Cretenfis commentary upon them. Cretenfis pag.42.Sett. 27. having had occafion to mention Mr. Burroughs immediatly before, fals upon a difcourfe to vindicate Mafter Bamu^hs of an Errour charged upon him by me in the Catalogue of Errours, and labours toclear him by comparing it with other pafTages in his Bookfage 34, 35. and by mowing Mr. Burroughs his rule touching fofbea ranee was of matters of Relt- gion,not of matters of State, and then concludes his confutation with a jear and fcofxe of what I faid againfl: Mafter Burroughs pofition, namely it was but a forlornhope, the fore-runner of a great Army of Confutations advancing, and of refembling Mr. Burroughs to Achilles, and applying that verfe co me in anfwering Mr. Burroughs, Infalix puer, a'qut intpar conprejfus Achilli, I have much exceeded the nature of a brief Reply to Cretenfis, Hefty. having already gone farre beyond the number of meets I intended in this Reply to Cretenfis, and therefore that I may referve matter for my large Reply, I (hall not enlarge my felf upon this, nor the following parciculars in Cretenfis Book as I have dons upon fome others , but (hall pafle by what I could fay to Creten* [is evafionsof pafTages in other pages clearing his meaning, 8cc. brought in defence of Mr. 'Burroughs, as namely, that Mafter Bnr* roughs ufes to fay and unfay, affirm and deny, as the vanity and weaknefle of chat diftinttion (as 'tis here applied j concerning matters of Religion, and matters of State, as if an erroneous confeience did not make things the Magiftrates account but matter* of State, matters of Religion, and the Magiftrates alfa reckon many things to be matters of State, which many confiden- ces account high matters in Religion ; all I (hall fay Card juftiy ) of many things delivered by Mafter Burroughs about Toleration and theMagiftrate,is, what Galen (aid wickedly of Utfojes writings, nmka dicit fid nihil probat • and there- O fore "...'' t ■ ■ '■■! 9§ Afurtfar Discovery oftkzErrwrs forethere will need no great abilities to confute Achilles : Tro- ilus ipjy try his valour with him by putting him but to prove his owr?pofitions and aflirtipns-, only before I end my Reply to this Se&ion, 1 muft t£ll Crumps he forgot when he writ thu% Ti'ozlta will needs he trying hU valour with Achillas, whatpuvtr it cofls bim^xhdX M after Edwards had already tryed the ftrength of Achilles and four more joyned to him, M after Thomas G»od- nnrK Mafter Nye^&c. in, bis A^tapo/vgie, or full Anfwer to the Apokgeticall Narrati ny which was never yet replyed to unto this day 5 and therefore certainly if the unhappy boy were able fas many learned men are pieafed to (hink) to make his part good with four befid^s Achilles, he my venture to try a fall with Achilles alone , and therefore if Creteujis will once more get a writing under Mafter Burroughs hand to this purpofc, and print if, that Achilles will in writing openly maintain his ?nd Cnnnft Cburci>way, not to be a Schifme.and that it ought to be tolerated by the fupreme Magiftracie of this Kingdom, I do proffer to an* fiver him,and cu maintain the contraband then leave ic to learned men to judge which of us haih the fall; only I premife this condition, that both of us may as in the prefence ol God make a (blemne promife to call in nc;> fecond,norto have any help from others^or to communicate our writings to any man, that fowhat we do may be a triall of our valours, and not of other mens • and for a conclufion of my Reply to this /Section , had not Cretenf/ come in at the clofe of this Section with his Troilus and Achilles, hisforlone hope, and his great Army of confutations, but ftaid his pen and ciofed the period at an erroneous conference may be /ucb$ be bad wrought little /ejfe then a miracle, for he had written one whole Seftion among 35« without either giving me the lye, or jearing of (coring at me, or abufing fome place of Scripture, Sec. but tie evill jjnrit that attends hit fen envied him the crown of that glory to write one fober Seftion, and therefore for unifor* mity fake he make$ this like unto its fellowes, ending wich Jears and feoffs. £retenfis Sebl.2S*p*ge 43. faith, how my pen hath abufed Mr. * Ellis of Golcbefter, and other faithfull fervants of God in thofe * parts with ba(e calumnies and (landers, the world will (hortly cunderftand by anexprefle from thence, of which Mafter Ellis ' € writes wMPpamfa of "the Seffamr. $b * writes thus to a friend 'in Lsndotj. The afierfiont cafl on me ami Jome ethers here, by M after Edwards areas falfe as fmktrobitb hecwfe they are a great part of his Bool^ and flrength, tbfe who" are here concerned, will >if God pie ajet make; Rep'y. Now whether my pen hath abufed Matter Ellis of CMefter, and fop l other faithfutl Servants of God in thofe parts with bale calumnies and (landers, Idefire the reader to turn back to Matter Herman Letter page^^ 55. and to read what he hath fens me under his hand, behdes Crehnfu the great Critick upan other, mens words> m thefe words his pen ((peaking of me) writes either f alfely or im* properly,for what I print of Mr. Wis>&c. in Gangmn^, are Letters written by another pen, not mine, and therefore if I wanted mat- ter, or had nothing elfe to do with my time, I could fpend as many words ("upon abetter ground) and expatiate upon calling Mr, Har- mars pen^my pen, as 0f$mfh doth upon the vsoidmnmg.p age j£, 37, As for theexprefle from Cokhefter diiodvering the bale calum- nies and flandersagainft the Saints there, I hear nothing of it yet, but let it come when it wilj fear it not;for both I and others know (a much of the Sectaries of CMefier^oi their bafenefle, felf-feek- ing, equivocations, &c. tbamhe Anfwer to it will (erve farnake' a third part of Gangra$a,< their Errors, Hereries, Pra6toncerne4 ftaihsnaka a ftfcpiyi, vtlioRejpynd^w it will have a gf e#tj^saJ§f tftoge*' and! iafchifo m^rineb of chingDdf dhb^Sefjbar ies of (/retenfis and Matter Ellis' 9 I have been told by one,of Cokkpefy that if he had thought or known I would have printed any Lee- tersl^ncerriihgthe Sectaries of Colcheter ,he would have furnidied me with otheEmato^Qfari^ CnttoffeSzU^^fa labour* to difprdvethe t«ftlK«oriyg*- o z tm joo A furtherDifcovery of the Errours venbynaeof the Author of the third Letter printed in Gangrwa, by printing a Letter written to Kiffin concerning him, wherein the Author of that Letter denies Mafter Ricraft to be a perfbn reli- gious., and cordially affe&ed to the Parliament, intimating and carting many foule afperfions upon him. Reply. I *eave ^Ia^er R'cr*f* to juftifie the contents of his own Letter written to me, and to anfwer this Letter written againft him, which he allures me he hath done, and that by this time 'cis printed wherefore I need (ay littlej only for what I exprefled of Matter Ri- crjft, I had good reafon to do it, both from the teftimonies I had received of him upon enquiry from perfons judicious and godly, and from fome conver(e and acquaintance which of late I have had wiih him; and that which made me give him that teftirnony, a perfbn cordially arTe&ed to the Parliament, was his being imploy- '■:*. ed in feverall matters and aftairs that concerned the Parliament ; which befides that I had heard fo, I faw two Orders or Warrants* one from the honourable Committee of both Kingdoms, the other from the Committee of Examinations, teftifying of his good fer- vice,and commending him, which are more to me to afiure me that he is a man well affe&ed to the Parliament, then a hundred Letters * This Letter written to the contrary by * Anabaptifts (fiich as Cretenfis here fefftpnntst*^* prin'ts)can be to deny it; now as'to that particular inftance brought written by an ap# in the Letter to difprove Mafter Ricraft fat being a perfbn cor- iS^iftotK»> diallyaffe&ed to the Parliament (which indeed is all that hath any M church, unto fl^w of proof, all the reft being meer words) namely of conceal- wHo" behkTCby ing a Colonel frhicb came out of the Kings Army, which Colonel himfdf or feme WjuU have tahgi .away the lift of one Mafter Roberts LMinifter^ 25 kT" and that if Mafter Robers ha d kfuwn of tbeColmels beinginTovm Cwenps. fa would have endeavoured the hanging of him, and yet not without cauft, for former difcourteftes received from himy &c. I defire tlie Reader to Judge how true 'tis bythefe following lines which I received from Mafter Roberts, under his own hand, arid fubferibed with hi* name. — 1J)onot kpew of any Cohnel^or other Cffthroftbe Kings party that Mafter Jofiah Ricraft did entertain3 nor that the faid pretended CdQm\ mr any other particular perfon did particularly initavertv and PraSifes of the SeSfarie/. 1 o I take away my life ; and if I bad punclually kgown , that the faVd pretended Colonel^ or any other perfon bad endeavoured at the taking ef Birmingham in hot blond to haze deftroyed my life, yet I do not conceive thst a fitfficient cattfe for me in cold bbud if I bad opportunity to have fought tbe taking away of bis life, March 24, 1645. Fran. Roberts. Sett. 30. Gretenfis thinking that by this Anabaptifticall Letter he hath weakned my teftimony of the Author, and branded him ( for a Malignant, he proceeds in this Se&ionagainft the matter of the Letter, charging a great part of it to benotoriouflyfalfe, as fome things about Kiffin and Palmer, and of a woman to be re- baptized, at which ftory out of his love co Anabaptifts and dtp- ping,not knowing how foon he fhal fall to that way,he is Co offen- ded, that he makes the tale of Gargantna9 and Vonquixot with his Wind- mils to look likeGofpels in comparifbn of it,and thereupon breaks out into flich a paflion , that he faith , It h piilethe Relator fbould either eMe cr drin\till he either be hath proved tbe truth, or elfe confeffed tbe untruth of it. The Reader may obferve Cretenfis cannot deny (bme part of it Rep?) . to be true; and indeed the firft part of it of one Webb (the moft material! and foule for the Opinions and Blafphemies Cretenfis doth notfb much as offer to difprove:) For thofe other about Kiffiis bragging upon Difputation and thofe lighter gafiagea I conceive Mafter Ricraft will clear in his Anfwer$ but for the main bufinefle of Kiffin and Patience afioynting with oyle a fiek woman , one of their members, that is not denied neither, only fome words,which being recovered, (he mould fpeak, which is not much materiall to the thing, befides, *tis probable words to that efFeft were fpoken, though not in ttrwww, wherein, may be the equivocation ftands^and laftly,for that ftory of the wo- it man to be re-baptized,and the Dipper whichCre/e»/*j makes (itch, a quaint invention and bold fi&ion, &c. as, if no Anabaptift could be guilty of mch onej I Reply to Cretenfis there are fouler things done by Anabaptifts and Sectaries; Miftris Atta* wayes ftory , with many particular paflage,s in it are fouler, as I (hall by Letters and other Relations ma^e manifeft* but where* as Grewfis makes tjiis Relation foch a (ye to the Whetftone, O 3 " making- let A further Difcevery of the Er tours making all the ehring Relations (as Cretenfis phrafes them) in GwgtAn* bciides to give place to ir, 1 will upon one condition (and that a very reasonable one) that Cretenfis and his Church will promife upon proof of it to joyne in a Petition to the Parliament with the Presbyterians for the forbidding of all Dipping and Re-baptization, and exemplary punifhmenc of all Dippers, as his brother Kiffin^&c. fee down in my large Pve- ply toCrg/w/J/5the place where, the name of the Dipper, with other circumftances of this (lory; and I do bekeve, if my in- telligence doth not extremly fai'e me, whereas Cretenfis makes fuch a wonder at one, I (hall be able by the next to give in- ftances in the plural number ; and for this end I have taken order to have tent me up with hands fubfcribei the proof with particular circumftance?. Andfor conclufion of this I cannot but take notice of the extreme cruelty of Cretenfis agalnft' the Rela- tor of this ftory, and by this we may fee what liberty and fa- vour Presbyterians muft expect if once we fall into the hands of Independents^) f that 'tis pity he (hould either eate or drinke c till he hath proved the truth, or confefTed the untruth of it. Whit Cretenfis, no other way for a poor man whotels a ftory of an Anabaprifticall Dipper* but to ftarve him to death, or to make him finne againft his confeience by confefling the untruth of that which he thinks in his confeience to be true, and that I may convince Cretenfis of his rafhheffi infpeaking thus, I de- fire himiirhisRejoyndtrto refolvethis cafe, which is tfte trtnfl cafe of this ftory. Suppofe the perfon who can prove it HVeT lixty or feventy miles off, hotf* long, and how many dayes will you allow the Relator to find him oat, and to bring him with all other witnefles before the Magiftrate to prove the truth of it; muft not this of neceflity require fame dayes- (thotigh no-ac- cidents mould fall out, ;fickneiTe3 or of* being from home, &c. which might retard it ) and would you have the Relator all this ' while go Co many di\yes without eating or drinking, that were indeed the ready way/ for the Relator never to prove the truth of it; I fuppofe upon-lecond thoughts Chnnfs* will donfeflfe he writ this in a paffion\ aridftarr^as r bdeeve ha^id all therelr of his Book. " Gnttnfu &#, jifag ^8. deniesand puts of feverall particu- lars andfraftifesof theSe&arkf, 105 lars laid down in Gangt'tHa,. as about Lieutenant Colonel LU- buryie, as about, one Thomas Moore of :Lincdinfhire,2S about a Woman Preacher at Brafieed in A"pf , and he adorns his preten- ded AnfWers with ;ears and feoffs, as that LUlnime can fee and c read twenty and ten untruths in my Book, with the wont of ' his eyes, and that I am the greateft manifeftarian under heaven, c there being no man hath manifefted that weaknefie or* judge- 'rnent, that ftrength of mallice againft the Saints as I have :done. Lieutenant Colonel Lilbumes* playing at Cards! have pro- ~ , ved true in Anfwer to JVal-rvjn^pa^. 30. where the Reader may by looking back be fatisfied, as for the reft I have faid of him when Cretenfis goes about to difprove it , I {"hall as particularly make proof of it by inftances ; and lam of an opinion with Cretenfis (though not in his fenfe) the other things inftanced in as well as playing at Cards, are Grapes growing on the fame Thorne ; only I cannot but wonder atone fetch of Cret: (indeed farre fetcht) to falve the credit of his Brother LUhnrne, that my reporting of Lllbums playing at Cards either is a falfe report it felf or at leaf a report of a report Which ts falfe, and fo little better, which is. to make all reports falfe of which a man is not an eare and eye witnefie , and fo nothing to be beleeved^ though .related by never fuch credible care and eye witness : Now after this rate to be fure the ftory of Cretenfis Presbyteri- an Angel which another hath to tell (feme Independent Angel) is.falfe,the ftory of the Presbyterians rifhing on a day of Thankf- giving is falfe, and little to be regarded, for Cretenfis fare was none of the com or fub-Presbyters, (though I am confident he would have fifhed with them a whole afternoon upon a Thankfgiving day on condition to have been a com • or fab- Presbyter with the Doctorate of the Aftembiy) the Manufcript .of my jugling between Cjodalming and Dunmotr, is either a falfe report it felf# or at leaft'a report of a report which is falfe , and fo all the ftories Cretenfis threatens Presbyterians wish to make their names and reputations fo many dead corpfes will be but ' either falfe reports, or at leaft reports of reports which are falfe, and fo little better, for I beleeve Cretenju comes little a- mong Presbyterians, and fo cannot fpeak much of his own know- ledge. As- 104 A furt^er Wftwtry of the Er routs As for that particular of one of Lilbwns eyes putoutbya Pike in the ftreet, upon which Cretenfis makes jefts, as that Lil- burne is able to fee and read twenty untruths and ten in Mr. Ed- wards Book with the worft of them ; I anfwer, this paflage,as alfo that of two children taken away at a time from Cretenfuy are not made any thing of by me, or infifted upon to upbraid them, but touched only to (hew their own folly in rafh cenfuring of Presbyterians from acls ofGods providence in afflicting by giving inftances in themfelves; however for the truth of the thing Lil- burnes eye was fo run into by a Pike immediatly upon his Letter . coming forth againft Mr. Prynn and the Aflembly , as that hee could not fee with it for a great while , and^ it was feared and commonly reported he would never fee more with it; but for my part I am glad to hear he can fee again with it;and the recovery of his fight doth no whit infringe the truth of what I have written, I exprefling not how long he could not fee, fpeaking only of pre- fently after his Letter came forth; but fuppofing his eye-fight to be as good as Cretenfa exprefl.es it , yet I am fure he cannot read twenty and ten untruths in gangr and I fuppofe by this time the Reader by my Reply is well fatisfied, that this fpeech of Crctenfis is an untruth ; and as for that jeer of Cretenfis that if I had not a grat beame in my own eye , I might eafily have feen that neither of Lilburnes eyes are put out, I reply, that lately in JVeftmmftcr Hall I walked by Lieu. Col. Lilburne^ and eyed him well and could eafily fee a great blemifh in one of his eyes which was not' in the other, and fo vifible,that many a one in whofe eye lefle is to be feen,yet cannot fee at all ; and I am of the minde if Cretenfis doe but put on his fpeclacles, he may fee a great ble- mitli in the eye,upon occafion of the Pike running in; but for my part the greater!: hurt I wifh to Lieu.Col. Lilbutne is,that he may not loofe the eye of his foule in the wayesof Errour, Schifme, contempt of the Miniftry, defpifing of Dominion, and fpeaking evill of Dignities,yea,my earneit prayer to God for him3Cretenfis and other of their brethren is,that God would anoint their eyes with eye-fa lve that they might fee,and be afliamed, andreturne, Laftly,for Thomas Moore a great Se&ary, and manifeftarian-that hath done much hurt in Lincolnjbire , which Cretenfis denies by faying he doth not more belecve there, is any fuch man then he does andPraStfesoftheSeftariet. 105 does, that there is any woman Preacher 3t Brafieed in Kent3&c. and he beleeves me to be the greateft Mantfeftarian under heaven, there being no man that hath nianifefted chac weaknefTe of judge- menc,that ftrength of malice againft the Saints which I have done. I Reply fir05the Reader, may doe well to take fpeciall notice of the bold impudencieofCrefewp-, who dares deny any thing if ic may make for the Sectaries , and tis no wonder he denies many other things in Gangr&n*^ calling them lies, forgeries, when as he will dare to writ thus,and to deny that which is known to many hun- dreds»and to perfbns of all rancks, Minifies Gentlemen, Citizens, Souldiers. This Thomai Moore does much hurt in Lincolnfhire, fome parts of Norfolk, Cambridgiliire 5 he is famous at Bofton, Lynn,Holland • followed and accompanied fometimes from place to place, with many attending him; and I cannot think but Cre- tenjii hath heard of him, and that he hath (bme equivocation in his words^orevafions,asic may be upon the word Sectarie, C?e- senfis not judgeing any of his Saints Sectaries, orupon greac Seclarie, as thole words feem to imply a Settarh of that magwitudt which he imports, or el(e upon thofe words that hath done much mifcheif, Cretenfii not beleeving that any of his Saints can do mnch mifcheif 5 and truely Crttmfis may with as much truth deny there is any fuch man as Matter Hugh ?etersy as deny what I have written ofTbomaf LMoore- and that there is fuch a one3I have feen and have by me at this time writings of his to the quan- tity of aimoft twenty Sheets, for his opinions, written by Thorns Moon himfelf, fubferibed with his name,to a worthy and learned Member of the Affembly 5 as alfo this Thorns Moort^ fince theie wars, was queftioned and committed by the then Governor of Bofton Colondl Kingf or keeping an unlawfull Conventicle ac ,an unfeafonable time in the night in r.he Garrifbn Town of Bofton, and for abufing and mifcalHng the Govemour when he was brought before him about it. Secondly, as for chat jear there is no more any fuch man then fuch a woman atBrafteed in Kent, let -Cretenfit know for all Matter Saltmsrfas bold affirmation in his late Book jbat the contrary is known to bimfilf and all tbt 7Wtf,there is fuc h a woman who preaches often both at Brafieed and other Townes there abouts; and befides what the Reader in j unification of this may finds in thU Book, pag. 24.25. I (hall add this as a far- P ther 1 06 A further Difcovery of the Errours ther proof related to ire lately by two godly Minifters of Kent, which is asfollowes. Upon Mafter Saltmarjhes Bookcall'd Groanes for Liberty ',coming forth, and denying there was any fach woman, who preached at Brajieed, many of the godly Minifters of Kent in that part of Kent about Town Aiaulingzt a meeting of theirs, took it in confederation to enquire and finde out the truth of that related in G*ngr &c. 4. As for the report of fome of Matter fohn Goodwins Church, &x. I obferve, Cretenfis denyes it not, but puts it off with one of his ufuall tricks, That hee beleeves, I no more know it then declare it. And indeed, this, is one of Cretenfis fugling wayes which hee makes often ufe of in this Book ; when heeknowesnot what well to fay, then hee comes in with I be- Crettnf.pag. leeveyhee no more knoweth, and I no more beleeve. And truely, 'tis ^49* fomewhat ftrange to mee, that hee who is fohard of beliefe in divine things, that hee will not beleeve the Scriptures without reafon, and hath preached lately with much earneftnefle and vio- lence, that Faith is not to guide Reafon, but Reafon Faith, will yet, in humane things, beleeve any thing againft all fenfe and rea- fon. But to put Cretenfis out of doubt, that I know, and can prove what I fay, I offer (fretenfis^ upon promife made from him and his Church, that the honeft men who told it out of their zeal tothecaufe, and their rejoycing in an Anfwer coming, and to perfwade the Presbyterians to the truth of it (who have alwayes much doubted of an Anfwer to the Antafohgie) fhall not be cen- fured by the Church, nor looked upon with an evill eye,- nor hin- dred by this, from being taken in to the preferment of being a Prophet, and preaching for Cretenfis , I will name the Minifter to whom it was told, and the members by whom \ and for en- couragement to Cretenfis and his Church to make this promife, I will for prefent name the firft letter of the godly Minifters name,well acquainted with fome of the Church,namely,Mafter B. Cretenfis, Secl.26. page 38, 39,40,41. fpends many leaves in la- bouring to difprove the information given mee of one C of ens of Rochefter, and related by mee, affirming that relation to be for- gery of forgeries, and all is forgery, all over it,and that in it there are well nigh qmt verba, tot mendacia ; and hee goes over feven particulars, putting the lie upon each of them* concluding, there is i in A further Difcovery of the Errours is fcarce a claufe of a fentence true in this re!ation;and as all along upon each particular,fo both in the entrance to this Anfwer,and in the clofe of it,hee is full of jears,fcorFes,and foul uncivill language. Reply This (lory being the laft of thofe related by me in Qangr^n^ which Cretenfis excepts againft in his Anfwer, and the ftory, next unto that of Nichols and Mafter Burroughs, (if not more in fome refpecls) which hee moft infuks upon, and triumphs in, I have therefore referved it to the latter end, as being the laft particular matter of facl I fliall reply unto for the juftification and vindica^ tion of my.felfe againft the foul-mouthed afperfions of Qretenfis i And I {hall firft fpeak to the manner of his Anfwer and Confuta- tion of this ftory., and fecondly to the matter of it : But before I fpeak to .either of thefe, I fhall mind the Reader of that which I have often fpoken of upon feverall other particulars which I have replied unto ; namely, that hee muft not look for all now that may belaid, left I anticipate my larger Reply; asalfo, be- caufe there is a Gentleman out of Town, whom I have expected almoft this three weeks to come to London, who can tell mee fome circumftances in this ftory for proofe of fome things more fully and clearly then the Minifter from whom immediately I re- ceived it : and indeed, I am told, there is a myftery in fome paff fages of this bufineUe about Cofens^ which, being unfolded, will give more full fatisfa&ion in fome particulars to the Reader, then yet I am able to doe. For the manner of Cretenfis. Anfwer, how unlike it is to a minifter of the Gofpel, and how like to one brought up in an Alehoufe, or in a Bowling-alley, not only on a day of publick Thankfgiving, but every day in the week, having their terms of art at his ringers ends, Score up. Talk on, and fuch foul-mouthed language, \Tis a lky You lie, A loud lie , every impartiall Reader cannot but take notice, and many fpeak open- ly of it; and that which makes Cretenfis folly and infolencie the greater, and more to be blamed by every indirlerent Reader, is this, that hee gives mee the he fo often , in fuch a difgracefull, fcornfull way, making the relation all over forgery,and that there are fo many lies well nigh, as words in the ftory ; fpeaking alfo moft confidently, though falfly, againft the worthy Minifter who told me this ftory, That hee works flout ly at the forge % and feeds loth himjelfand the world with all manner offcandah andfeljhoods agawfi and PruSifes of the SeSarks. 1 1 3 againft the Independents without jew, and in the clofe vaporing and triumphing at an exceffivc ratewich inferences drawn from his own confutations^ if all he had faid in anfwer to me had been Gofpel; when as all this high and great building is laid and raifed foly up- on the weake Tandy foundation otCofens his own relation, Creten- jf/difproving the truch of my relation, and feail.ng the truth of his own Anfwer in (even particulars by no other way, but the man profefTeth fthat is Cojens) that heknoivesnofuchrnan,and this Counter Information I had from die mouth of the faid C°fcnf himielr,and have the particulars under his hand, Nowfappeale to all the world whether any wife man would ever have madefach adoeasCre/e??j?/doth here , giving the lye fo ofc3 triumphing fo confidently in a buiinefie meerly upon the information of a man in his own cafe, and whether this be>;not wcrfe then to asl^e my fd~ cmcnfj p*n< low whether 1 beatbeif, namely to aske a mans (elf, and upon a mansownteftimonytocallanhoneftmana theif, and to declare a theifanhoneft man, efpecially conlidering btfidcs Co/ens being a party,and in his own caufe; he is a man againft whom there are ma- ny depollcions and complaints againft him for other mifcai riages andmifdemeanors; a Copie wherf of I amprornifedfromagood hand, and (hall infer c in my large Replyjbut fuppofing all that Cretenjis faith Cojens told him mould prove upon further inquiry to be (rue, and not falfe (the contrary whereunto I (hall prefently make apparent) .yet no wife man canexcufeCntfew/?/ of a great deal of weakneffe and folly, to put fo much weight as he doth up- on fuch a teftimony,tk to declare fo much to al the world: Certain- ly great Cntenfis is the greateft manifeftarian that I have ever met with, and there is no man hath manifefted that weakneiTe of judge- rnenr, befides ftrerrgth of malice againft the Presbyterian Mi ra- fters and Saints which he hath done both in th's?, and in many other paflages of his Book, as to make an Anfwer to a Book, and pro- feiTe truly he never read one quarter of the Book, fe. and in my' opinion thefe ads manifeft greater weak nefle of judgement, farre more injudicioufnefTe, then the not knowing hor? to range pans of Jj>eecb in a fentence^ nor to put the Nominative Cafe and Vub i rr:- ther regularly in EngUjh}&c. and for a conclufion of what I have to Reply againft the manner of ^retenfis confutation of this (lory, I refexreit to the judicious Pveaders confideracion whether Matter Q, Edwardr, 114 A further Discovery of the Errtmrs Sdroards^ for relating a itory as a Relation, upon the information of a reverend godly Minifter well known, living alfo upon the pIace,who could upon no reafon be judged to do it out of partiali- ty or for finifter ends,be to be accounted a lyar, and to have the lye often given bini, or M. Goodwin for denying the whole ftory and af- firming the contrary upon the bare word and relation of attranger, a great Sectary, and a party in the caufe, who according to all rea- fon cannot bg thought but he would /peak favourably for him(elf5 especially being fuch a one, as a man may without breach of chan- ty, prefume he will fpeak any thing for himfelf in his own caufe, when as he did to me in the presence and hearing of three godly Ci- tizens alleadg in his own behalf to clear himfelf from al fault in this matter, that one of the witneffes who depofed , fa'd, he was hired to fwear againit him?and had <$;?; given him by one of the JufHces, or feme about him , and had three or lour cups of fack given him JM before he fwore, and was drunk when he mok his oath; unto three^honeft whom(bmeor' the * Citizens then prefencwith me, replied, he sodly Citi- kad belt take heed what he faid to accu(e the Juftiees of Peace, that * fccns after fui5-. they mould make any witnefle drunk, or have any hand to give per coming to fiYC (hillings toone tofweare againd him , and that this was not ^C2^^™e likely , nor to be beleeved by any wife man; and I fuppofe if I whhm/t'ctfens fru>uld reply never a word more to what Cretenfu hath objected a- cameto fpeak gainlt this ftory of Cofenf, I had faid enough to fatisiie rationall wkh me, and nien, by declaring I had my information from aperfbn of worth, was Drought anc| ^y HetenGs nothing is here brought to infringe it, but only the into the room .J u ^ n. & , . Dlr , ° L . where thefe i . Fari ies OWR teltimony,who is a man alio otherwayes obnoxious,as Citizens were I have already declared. Now from the manner I mall come to the and ^ I fpake mattered for the Ftelacion which I have ^ei down of Cofens in the nothing tohim ]an. ]t,ac Qj my ^0Q^ fave one? fTeceived it from a Reverend Mini- thing £o ml ^er wno "iS Poacher at Roche fter (the place where Cojens lives) and hut°'m their a Member of the Aflembly, who told it me? and a Common Coun- tering, who ceil man of this City, and I writ it from this Minifters mouth that Tv ,tcftifie J might neither forget nor miftake it, and read h to him after I had « is and more. c|one^ anc| UpQn reading, ne approved it as his fenfe, and that which he had related ; But now fupjpofing there (hould be any miftakes in the firft relation made to this godly and learned Minifter , yet I reporting it juft as I had it fron his mouth (he being a man to be beleevedj ana* as an information opiy ? not as a dang of my own know- andfraffijes of the Seffarier. 1 1 5 knowledge,! conceive I cannot bs taxed for a lyar, not according to any acception or definition of a lye 5 and if I be in this kinde to be blamed for lying,! defire to know of Mr .Goodwin by the nexc sn cafe he have reported from £ofins a Senary, a loofe perfbn a man /peaking in his own caufe, any thingthat is untrue, (which - that he huh done I (hall infallibly prove) how he will free him- (elf from ihe fame crime, and not more julily incurre the title of great Mafter Cretenfu, then I the brand of lying, which he fo li- berally beftowes upon me. But to come to the particular for the firft words thac Cofens ftiould lay, Jejus Chrift was a "Baftard : 'tis confefled by him who related it (though he had it from a very good handjchat thofe words are not found in the depofition againft him before two Juftices) but thefe, Cbrift (alas) be was a child, and yen rnuft not hekeve all the words he /aid 5 and for the fuller fatisfa&i- on of the Header, I do here (et down the Information and Depofi- tion to a tittle as it was taken before the Ma/or of Rocbefier, and another Juftice of Peace. . __ ___________«__»__««-_--_-___. ■——_—-—__»««-«-»_-»-—---—_-. y The Information of John Cofens of Chatham, taken upon c oath the 1 9 day of Augaft, 1 644. before John Philpot fi»fm ™ °l ' Mojo*-, and Philip Ward Efyuier 9 Juftices of Peace within the faid City. WHo faith, that about July laft was twelve moneth?, he be- ing at worke at the houfe of Matter William Cobbams, in the fad City with Robert Cofins his brother, they fell into dif- courfe concerning the Book of Common Prayer, when thefaid Robert offered to lay a wager that the fame fhould be put down within a moneth, and (hould be read no more; whereupon the faid John Cofens replyed, why Brother there are many things there commanded by God 5 by what God faith the faid Robert > to whom he anfwered by our Saviour Chrift ? Our Savior Chrift, faid Robert Cofins falasj he was a child, and you muft notbeleeve all the words he (aid. Jobn'PbilpotMzjQr. John Cofens \ his marke.' Vera Coph, & examinat.ptr me Job an. GoldweB. Q 2 Nog I ! i $ A further Difcover) of the Errours Now I appeale to the Reader whether thefe words related in this Depofi tkn, be not blasphemy as well the other, and whether amiftake might not eafily ariie from thefe words depoftd, tore- port the other $ but to put Crete® fis out of doubt that tis no lienor forgery to report fuch words,yea and more of fome Scfta- tles>Crctenfis Saints, and therefore he needed not to have triumph* edib much in it: I will give him two inftances cf Sectaries, who haveblafphenied after this manner. The firft is one Cokbttrne of Watford in the liberty of Sa:nt Albons, a great Anabapcift and Sec"Urie,who fpake thefe words, that our Saviour Chrift was a - baftard, and the firft time that he taught was in a tub upon the fea. This was found by a Jury upon oath, and was returned into the Kings Bench by Cerriorarie , in Michaelmas Term laft. The fe- cond is one in Midle(ex,who is indited at the Kings Bench,for fay- ing that our SaviourOhriit was a baftard3and the Virgin Mary a — ■ with many other blafpemous words, which ( being fo horrid and filthy ) I think not fit to make publike: This is found by the grand Inqueit inCandiemas Terme lad, upon the knowledg of one of the laid grand Inqueft; and to affure the Reader of what I writ, I have by me the whole Proceffe and particulars at large, which I fetched out of the Crowne Office,fubfcribedwith the Cterks hand, which becaufe they are fo large, and I have already much exceeded the number of fheets I alotted to this Reply,I forbeareto Print them^ but itCretenfis doubt of the truth of what I here write, he may if he wil be at the charge,have the whole proceedings out of the Crown Office attefted under hand. AndforC^/fpeaking thefe very words, Cretenfis a little afcer(though here he denies them) yetcon- fefles thefe words were cha ged upon himj though upon rexami- nation waved; elfe what meanes thatpatfage of Oe/ewyfr, the wit- €ne{Te upon whofe fingleteftmiony (originally) both thefe and the * former words where charged upon him:Now what thofe former words were,I defire Cntetifis torefblve in his Rejoynder. For the fecond, c that if Jefus Chrift where upon the Earth a- * gain, he would be afhamed of many things he then did. This Second part of the relation of the Information Cretenfis calls a lye, and the fecond in order, and thereupon enlarges himfelf 'after this c manner.For neither did the man (namely £0/*iw)fpeak any fuch « words as thefe,the wkucfle upon whofe fingle teftimony (origi- •nally) and Pra8ifes of the $e8arhs. 1 1 7 •nallyjboththefeandthe former words were charged upon him, cuponrexamination, and that upon oath before the Committee € of the County, waved both the one and the other, as appeares by 'the faid examination under the hand of the Clark of the faid * Committee, which I faw and read ; and is forth comming for any * man to peruiefor his further (atisfa&ion. Now that the Reader may fee what Cretenfe; confidence and impudencieis,and ihatCofenf (pake fuch words as thefe, I defire him to read what followes to a word, taken out of the originalls, kept in the Majors Court of Rocheiler. the Information of 'Francis Tillet, taken upon Oath the 19. chntJUffatfc o/Auguft,! 6 ^before Mr John Philpot MajorfihiUp Ward, and Barnabas WzlhMJufiicej of the peace within the faidCitj. WHo fakh , that in Lent was twelve moneths laft, he being upon his duty, at the guard of the Bridg at the Gentry with Robert £ofensyznd (bine others, he being talking with the faid Robert Co fens about the troubles of the Church, and fome (peech " of our Saviour Chrift, he the faid Cofens then faid,that if our Savi- our Chrift were now againe upon Earth, he would be amamed of what he had done • and he further faith, that he heard Jehn fatten of Saint Margarets , and John Coftm Brother of the faid Robert, declare that they have heard him fry to the effect aforeiaid. John Philpot Major. the Marke of the faid Philip W ard. Francis Q^ fillet, torn. WalfaU Vera Copia & examinat,per me Johan. QoldwzU. Now for that which Cntenfis alledges here to cleare C°finsi that he never fpake any fuch words as thefe, tis all falfe, as I dial demonftrate it to the Reader, and I am confident that Creten- j?/ with all his Rhetorick, and great fwelling fix footed words, can never cleare tufnfclf,bu€ mutt blufcfor (hame, unleflehebe paft: 1 1 8 A further Discovery of the Err ours paft it, and confefTe that either he was too credulous to beleeve fuch a Senary and a man in his own caufe as Cofens9 or elfe out of hafte and eagernefik to confine me, miftooke the bufine/Te quite , or which is worfe, did wilfully, and on purpofe write thus to brand me , hoping that I mould not be able to difprove him by every get- ting the Records to teftifie the contrary; and before I do parti- cularly difprove thefe fixe or feven lines of Cretenfis, I flull ufher in what I have to fay by retorting juftly Cretenfis words upon him- feif, which he un juftly ufed againft me, That forgery of forgeries, and all U forgery , all over • for in this Confutation of Cretenfis (by which you may judge both of thofe many that go before it, and thole few that follow after it.) There are not only well-nigh, hut altogether, quot verba, tot mendacia, arid yet even this hath this banner of confidence difplayed for the credit of it. as appears by the faid examination tinder hand of the Clerl^ of the faid Committee, which Ifaw and read ; and is forth comming for any man to perufe for \m fatisfatlion ; all which is falfe as I (hall undeniably demon- jftrate under the Clerks hand of the Committee, and therefore if I would dealein fuch a (coffing way with Cretenfis, as he hath done by me ("chough falfely) I could marfhall his lies, and ranck them in orderjfirftjfecondjthirdj&c. and could at the end of every one cry, keep takyfeore up ,t ally on, and fay this is a fifth (ifr^a fifth and fixth) phib in the Relation of Cretenfis, for here is a big lie with a lefler in the belly of it; in brief, there is never a fentence, nay not a claufe, nor one word brought by Creten. to disprove this fecond part of the ftory of Co fens that is true,and yet it hath Cretenfis (eale upon ir, and this foundation (greater then Mafter Edwards I was informed for certain) namely, i as it appears by the faid examination under *the hand of the Clerk of the faid Committee, which I faw and * read; and is forth-comming for any man to perufe for his fatisfa&i- on; and I am confident there-are more untruths in thefe (even lines of freienfis brought to difprove one claufe of one ftory of mine, then in all my Oangrana (unlefle miftakes in the manner of a Relation, as in theorder ormiftake of a name,&c.J confift- k ing of thirty (heets; and upon condition that Cretenfis will promife * to fubmit to this fair condition, to be willing his Church mould be put down,and to Petition with me that upon proof of things by mz}hk Saints m*y be puniflied, I am contented to referre (he de- ter- and Pra Bifes of the Se&aries. 1 1 9 termination of it 10 Authority, and if I make it not good, to be willing to (ufler what the Parliament (hall think fit-, but by the way, if Cretenfis fignall and choyce confutations founded upon c examinations under the hand of the Clerk of a Committee which c he fa w and read, and h forth-coming for any man to perufe for his farisfa&ion, be of fo dark and difaiall a complexion 3 that there is fcarce fo much as one beam, or the leaft glimmering of the light of truth in the whole body of it; what (hall we think of thole that have no fuch image or fuperfcripdon of confidence upon them, but be only loofe informations from Anabaptiibj Appren- tices, perfons in their own caufe3&c? If Cretenfis Chariots and borfe-men fail, furely his Infantry w ill yeeld the field. And thas I may make good all this which I have faid3 and not only feed the Reader with words and flourimes fas Cretenfis doth) I defire the Reader to perufe what followes, which cleerly proves what 1 fay, and confounds Cretenfir. Whereas certain Articles are exhibited againft 'Robert Co fins of Blafphemy, which he now alledgeth is confeftby (bmecfthe wit- nefTestobe rather a fuborning then truth; Thefe are to require you to warn thefe under-writren to appear before the Committee at Ailsford to morrow being Wednefday ^ fail not^ for which thi3 (hall be your warrant, Ailsford November ip, Antiony Weldon. John Bixt. John Co fins John Hi lis Francis TiBtt George Taint James Hills William Hornet To all Conflabks 9 and o:hr Officers to whom this fiaE come^ &c. Let Mr. Goldmll fend a Copieof the Articles with thefe wit- Defies/ The Examination of Francis Tills t taken upou oath before Sir Antha* 1 2 o A further Difcwery of tb$ Errours Anthony Weldcn, WiUiam James> Richard Beaky and John Bixe E- (quircsjupon an information of fbme fabomation againft &?£er* Qoferu, Nevemb. 20. 1644. Who faith that Robert Cofens and this examinate being together upon the Gentry , they were talking of the Common Prayer, and the Lords Prayer; and in this difcourfe the examinite affirmed, That the Lords Prayer was taught unto him by hi* Forefathers, and that it was of Chrijls making and framing ; whereunto Robert Qo* fens Tep\yedy That if oxr Sav'mir were again upon earth be would be afrmtd&f what he had done • and that afterward this examinate re- lating unto his Brother John Cofens this difcourfe, the faid John Cofens replyed, that his Brother Robert had faid as much unto him before. Andrew LydaUCkrk^ Committee. Now I defire the Reader but to compare this Examination un- der the hand of the Clerk of the Committee with whatCrettnfis hath written anent his bufinefTe , and he will finde Cretenfis lines brought to clear Cofens fron? fpeaking thefe words, to have forgeries in it, numerous beyond meafure, the whole and every part of it b-ing nothing but lies ; and for the further con- viction of Cretenfis ^ I will go over his words* 1. Cretenfis faith, neither did the man jpeal^any fuch words as thefe, Cretenfis y how dare y ou fay fo, when a« before three Juftices of Peace upon oath thefe words were depofed againft him ? is your negative teftimo- ny withoutoaih fiifficientto difproveit? 2. Cretenfis affirms for proof of his words, that Cofens never fpake fuch words as thefe, that the witnefTc upon whofe fingle terlimonyf originally) both thefe and the fcrnur words were charged upon him upon re-exa- mination, and that upon oath before the Committee of the Coun- ty, waved both the one and the other, which is all ftark flaring falfe, and Cretenfis proof failing him , what is Cretenfis Teftimony worth? Now if the Reader do but read this Examination under the Clerk of the Committees hand, and compare with that the firft Depofitionof Francis Tillet before theM^jor of Rochefier and two other juftices, he muft presently fee it fmels above ground, and that here Cretenfis words takes place inhimfelf, tjmt verba, and Pra&ifes of the Sectaries. 1 2 1 tot mmdjcii : I defire the Reader to tell the untruths,and that pre- yed upon Record, and noc untruths made upon my faying they are lies as CretenfisztQ upon his bare words, U Creftfz/w- a vouchcth confidently that it was onewitneffe up- on whofe (ingle teftimony (originally) both thefe and the former words were charged upon him:lec this be the firil lye in this Cata- logue, for 'tis evident by the Depcfi ions which 1 have fet down, that there were two witness, John Cogens and Fran. Tillet; Fran- cis Tilletwho fwor- Co fens fpake theft words , and John Co fens who depofed the other words; fo that there were two witnefles, and each witntfledc poled not the fame, but different words* 2. Cretenfishcre affirms the former words, namely, that Jefuc Cbrifi was a Bajiard, were charged upon him,which if they were, and that upon oath, that was a good ground for the report; buc if they were not charged upon him, but other blafphemous words, then Crgtenfo tels another phib,whkh is the lecond in order. 3. Crctenfis poGtively ( without faying I was fo informed,8cc) afltrts that thefe words fpoken,^*. by Cofens, lj Chrifl were upon the earth again he would be ajhamed,&c. the witnefle upon re-examination, and chat upon oath before the Committee of the County waved them : Now how falfe this is, let but the Reader compare the fir ft and (econd Depofition of Francis Tilleti who de- pofed thefe words againft Cofins^ before three Juftices, and upon re-examination, and that upon oath before the Committee of the County (wore the fame again the lecond time, and was farre from waving it as appears by the examination under the Clerks hand ef the Committee which J have let down; and now I might (ay to the Reader, keep tale, this is the third down- right fall, more then a (tumble-, this is a big lye with others in the belly of it ; for firfi: the former words were not charged upon Cofens by Francis TiHet9 but only thefe words; and therefore how could he be re* exami- ned upon that of which he never informed, nor was formerly ex- amined? Secondly 9 much lefle then could he upon oath wave them ; and for the other words which he was re-examined upon, he flood to them before the Committee, and is ready to teftifie them (till whenfbeverhe (hall be called thereunto. 4* Cretwjif affirms that he who depofed thefe words, v\z+ that R " if 122 A further Difcovery of the Err our $ i/Cbrift were upon the earth again jfrc.^did upon re-examinaeion be- fore the Committee wave them, as appears by the (aid examina- tion under the hand of the Clerk of the laid Committee. Now I might here fay, [core up ; this is the fourth word of folly in £re- ttnfis confutation, for there is no fuch examination under the hand of the Clerk of the faid Committee, but the contrary to ir9 as appears by that examination fet down already taken upon oath before Sir Anthony JVeldon^&c. and fubfcribed by Andrew LjdaH Clerk Ccmmitt. Tnis untruth may well {tand for two, or at leaft be printed in a Capitall Letter , becaufe he affirms agroiTelye^ and a thing quite contrary to truih,to be under the hand of the Ckrk of the Committee. 5. Crttenfis proceeds upon this examination, thathefawit2, which IfatpJ might here fay, Tally on, this is a fifth phib in this relation, for how could Cretenfis fee that which never was* but if he (aw any fuch thing that f ranch lifot mould deny thefe words, he muft needs (ee (bmething that was forged by fbme- of his Seftaries, to engage him to confute Matter Edwards book. 6. Cretenfis further afferts, that he read this under the hand of the Clerk of the Committee: X might here f*y Crttenfis ft ill advances in his Cntlan way, and this is the flxch flaw; for how could he read that which never was? and I conceive Cretenfis will upon a. review of what he hath writ tea> cry peccavi, and fay, I was deluded and quite miftaken. 7. And laftly, the faid Independent confutation and affertion, for uniformity (ake, that it may end as it began, or rather end worfe, by rifing and amending in untruths, affirms in the clofe of if, that this examination is forth-coming for any man taper- life for his fatisfaclion : Now Reader remember the account, for this is the fevemh and eighth time at leaft, yea the ninth and tenth that this confutation prevaricateth with the truth; for in thefe words; this examination is forth- coming, there are many lyes, Firft, there is no fuch examination. Secondly, then it cannot be forth-comiog. Thirdly, not for any one man to perufe, much lefle for any man. And fourthly, it can bee much lefle for fati£ faction. And I much wonder Cretenfis, if ycu had (een and read an examination und*r the hand of the Clerk of the Com- mittee? a nd Practices of the StBarkt. 123 mittee, proving what you here fay, and confuting this part of the ftory related by me of Co fens, and that tending fo much to the fatisfa&ion of any man, why did you not caufe it to be forth- coming , printing it here together with your Confutation > Cer- tainly Cretenfif )had you feen and read fuch an examination un- der the hand of the Clerk of the faid Committee, there can be no reafon given why }OU mould not have printed tha:,aswell as an Atuhaptfili ktr-ef written to an Anabaptift , and a writing gi- ven you from Mailer Barmfgb ^wveh an examination under the Clerks hand of a Committee, would have been more auirienticall with rational! men to have convicted my Book of untruths , then a Letter of an Anahaptiiticall boy,&c. and therefore for my parr, I am contidzntfireter.fij faw that in the examination brought him by Cofens., which being printed, would have disadvantaged his foul- mouth' d confutation of this ftory,e.ither contradicting, or * endring the whole fufpe&ed; and therefore he fupprefled it,be!ng willing to blaft my Book for the present, while it was new come forth, and much foight'afcer; making account, if after I mould be able to difprove him, yet he could then play hfs after- game, either by pleading mittake% aad that he was fo informed, or elfe by his Rhetoriek and wordg at will, w retting either the ex- arninacion brought him to thefe words in Cretenjlf, or elfe theie words and phrafes of bis to the examination 5 however one way or other to fhift for his credit, and to wrangle it out, in which Creto?j?j huh a uronderfull art and faculty by his wit and large- ntffeof confcience,tocallbJack white, and to make quidhbtt ex qwiibtth and however Cretcnfis, to work the Reader to a belief of him in the confuration of this part of the ftory of Cofinst fpe«ks of an examination under the hand of the Clerk or" the iaid Com mi tee, which he faw and read; yet I am confident he kne\v,it would not prove what he here faith; and my confidence is upon this ground, becaulefrom his own words I gather he had this counter information from the mouth of the [aid Ccftni, and Syfjf-^4** the examination under the hand of the Clerk of t\e Committee infarmaSonf" (what ever it was) was brought bin by Cofens : Now I conceive hadfrLon?- !hv •* • • • 1 1 1 1 r 1 ^i t r 1 ^- • mouth of the fei 4 that ex uTunation under tne hand of the Clerk of the Committee afim bimieir; which Cofens (hewed Cretwfis, ,he alfo fhe wed m.% which I care- ' f"^6 tbcj par fully read, and that in the prefenceof three Citizens, in which bis hand. R 2 there ! 2 4 AfurtherDtfcovery of the Errours there was nothing in the judgement of us four to weaken this teftimony of Francit Tillet • but rather by that, and the con- feflionof Crfens himlelf to us, much fell from him to confirm the truth oi this, and ocher paflages in this ftory, which I pre- sently writ downasfoon as Ccfens was gone • and for a need, befidts my ownteftimony, thofe Citizens will be ready to w^t- neffe al/b the truth of what then panned • Co that by all this the Reader may (ee more untruth in one peece of frchnfis confu- tation of theftory of Co fens ^ then there are pretended untruth.*, made by all the art and malice of CreUnfis againft the whole fie- ry of Cofens; lb that to conclude this I aske of Cretenfis who is the lyar now I and I fuppofe I may more truly apply Cretenjii own Words a little changed, fpc ken againft me to himftlf: doubtlefle the man hath fold himfelf to write all, and all manner of untruths, that he can but fcrapple together from what mouths, or tongue^ or pens he cares not Co they be but Independent in their constitu- tion, and carry any antipathy in them to the honour and good of Presbytery; and in cafe they be but fuch, 'tis no matter if they be Anabaptifts, Seekers, yea ioofe drunken perfbns and blafphe- mers. Cretenfis by this Anfwer hath proved many things I fpeak of in Gmgran a, all the Sectaries and Blafphemers clofwg wuh Independents, and the Independents with them to make one common party againft the godly Orthodox Minifters and people of thefe Kingdoms, who are for truth and peace, 3. Cretenfis proceeds to infringe the truth of my Relation of the ftory of Cofens in five other particulars^but by this part of the itory which I have nude good, and the many particulars wherein I have disproved Crtienfis , efpecially confidering 'tis all of the fame complexion, Co fens information being the fble groun i wher- upon Creienfis goes, (as he confeffes/^g^a.^ the Reader may eafily gviefleat the refund my Authors I with the Records produ- ced, are more authentick then Co fens bare no -therfore for prefent I (hall not enlarge further upon the third, fourth, and fifth heads of Cretenfts , but referve to my full Reply the whole Relation of Cofem being bound over by the Juftices upon thefe b'afphe- mies atteited againit him to the Simons, and of his being impri- foned for fpeakmg words againtl a Member of the H^ufe of Com- mons, dwelling in that county, and of the complaint for his bla/phe- and PraSifes of the Seffarie/. 1 2 5 blafphemies a?ainft Chrift exhibited to the Recorder of Roche- fter, and of the Recorders binding him to his good behaviour out of the pious fenfe hee had of the wrong done to Chrift, and the words hee fpake to him, and of his addreffe to the Committee of Kent for a review of thefe Depofitions, &c. onely there feems to be fome interfering between the third and fourth branch of Cretenfis confutation ; Cretenfis denying Co fens to be ever un- der any reftraint, or needing any order from any in place, or to any in place to releafe Cofens , in reference to his blafphemies ; and yet hee faith prefendy after, upon the light of the fore-men- tioned examination taken upon oath before the Committee, by the Juftices the man was difcharged : Now I demand, What was he difcharged from ? and whether, was not this difcharging of the man a releafing of the man ? Ofortet Cretenfem ejfc memo- rem. 4. As to Cretenfis fixth branch, calling that part of the rela- tion of Cofens a loud lying Information : I reply, Tis a mani- feft truth, and will be witnefled by many, that Den, Lamm, and Woodman, all three of them have preached in Cofens houfe, which is fo evident in Rochefter, that as the dayes of the moneth when they preached are known,fo are the names of many of the Audi- . tours that were prefent : and for proof of it, 'tis given me under hand from Rocchefter, ' that Woodman himfelfe confeft it the "Very fame day hee preached before a Juftice of peace and other c witnelles, being apprehended by the Officers,- and brought be^ 6 fore him, who being thus convented,gave it under his hand, that 'hee would never again preach within five miles of Rochefter : r and though Cofens faith, hee knowes no fuch man (which wee f think, upon good ground, is a lie,) yet can he deny that Wood- 1 man hath preached in his houfe ? which is the thing affected. 5, For that laftpart of the relation of Cofens going to Ma- tter Clares, &c. for itr.iformitie fake, made a tie by Cretenfis, be- caufe hee wasfet upon it to biaft all for lies ; I reply, that" as the ^? -0-.: hrft part is eonfeiled to be true, fo is the kit as- true, though de- he^ Mr. cu™ nyed; for Mafter Clare arBrmes, hee faid hee would complain of " him ; and let Cofens bethinke himfelfe what hee faid of Mafter Clare, and hee muft confefle it. As for that argument Cretenfis brings why he did not threaten to complain of him,, and that the man p react 126 A further Discovery of the Ertourt man dares not threaten to queftion any whatsoever, becaufe 'tis his judgement , none ought to be queftioned or troubled for their judgements in matters appertaining unto God : I anfwer, Tis a weak one, and it followes not ; becaufe the Sectaries prin- ciples and practices doe not agree, they practicing many things often wherein they profefle contrary : How many Sectaries have wee in thefe dayes, who plead for, and profede libertie of con- ference, which yet have not onely threatned godly Minifters and Chriftians for their confeiences, but actually have brought them into trouble, and puniilied them ieverall wayes ? Surely Creten- fis, if you had read Hiftorics of the Church, both ancient and modern, you would have found Hereticks and Sectaries, as A- rians, Donatiils, Anabaptifts, Socinians, Arminians profeffing as Cofens here does, who yet when they have had opportuni- ties, proved great perfecuters of the orthodox godly Mini- fters ; and wc well know by many ftirewd fignes and inftances, that if Qretenfis and his abettors, who have fo much pleaded for a Toleration, fhall come once to get power in their hands, , they will as much tolerate Presbyterians, as now they will to come Into any place, office, employment Ecclefiafticall, Civill, or Mili- tary, where 'tis in their po,wcr to hinder them. And therefore Cretenfis , you had need bring better Arguments to confute my Antafdagie^ (vvhich your Sectaries give out you are upon); or elfe you will doe the Apologifts little good either in matter of fact, or in anfwering the argumentative part of it. 6. Cretenfis, in his animadverfions and inferences made upon my relation of theftory of Cofens, not knowing who related it to mee, nor the occafionof the relation, &c. yet in the clofe of his confutation of the ilory of Cofens, moft. falfely and wickedly, without fear or wit, brands him who related it to mee, with fuch words as thefe, But Who u Mafter Edwards godly orthodox Pref- byterian Adinlfler ? Is hee not fuch a one Who Works ftoutly at the forge , and feeds both himfc If and the world with all manner offcan- dals and falfljoods againfl the Independents without fear .? Cer- tainly, Cretenfis throat is an opcnfepulchre, and the poyfon ofajps is under his lips, What fioall be given unto thee, or what {hall be done unto thee thou faJfe tongue ? This parage againftthe godly Mi- nifter who told mee this ftory , fiis up the meafure of Qretenfis rage, andFra&ices of the SeSaries. rage, lying, and evill fpeaking ; and he could hardly have fpoken more untrue words then thefe, whether he confider the man him- felfe, or the manner of his relating it. In one word, the Minifter who related thisftory to me, is a reverend, learned, godly, hum- ble, retired man, a man who hath been many yeers of good ac- count in the Church of God, a member alfo of the Afiembly, and a man far from forging, or feeding himfelfe and the World with all manner of fcandals againft the Independents, &c. and this Minifter did not make it his bufinefle or work to tell mee this (lory, coming to mee, or ever intending to come : but I, go- ing in London upon my occafions, this Minifter accidentally be- ing in a {hop with a friend of his, a Citizen whom I knew alfo, I fpake to them as I was going by, and they to mee ; and fo in the (hop exchanging a few words, the Citizen asked mee if my Book were come forth, or when it would : whereupon this Mini- fter and I had fomc words about the fubjecl of it, and falling into difcourfe, hee related this ftory to mee and the Citizen ; which when I had it from him, the laft fheet of my Book being either printing oft, or quite printed on\, I put it in a Poftfcript, as the Reader fees : and therefore let ail the world judge what mi- truths Cretcvjis hath belched tnit againft this reverend and wor- thie Minifter. But Cretenfis is a man that in all his Writings and Sermons falls upon all that come in his way, having no refpect of age, place, gifts, fufterings, &c. if they be againft his fond con- ceits and Sectaries. And thus, good Reader, I have gone overall the particular materiall exceptions made againft my Book entituled Gangrxna, by Mafter Saltmarfc Mafter Walftyn, and Cretenfis ; and I doubt not, but by this time, even by thisbriefer Reply, every indifferent Reader is fatisfied, how unjuft and falfe thofe outcries and cla- mours of lyes lyes5are,and how in them that proverb is verified^ great cry, but a little woo/l : little caufe, but onely the rage and madnefie of the Sectaries to fee themfelves and their wayes fo laid open in the fight of the Sun ; and yet I have not done with my Antagomfts,, but ftiall more fully anatomize and rip them up, and further juftifie andcleer all things excepted againft in gun— grtna, which being lighter,arenow pafled over, or though fpoken unto, need further amplification and iliuftration : in a word, there 12 8 A further Difcovery of the Erronrs there is nothing behinde untoucht, that either glances upon me, or fpeaks for themfelves and their partie ,, but I intend to fpeak to it fully, and am refolved (God {paring me life and opportuni- ty) not to die in their debt. And I could now play the Rheto- rician, and fpend fome leaves in running over all the errours, he- refies, blaiphemies, practices, ftories, &c. laid down in qangrana, not fo much as once offered to be difproved, though they be of perfons and things here living, and acted in London, and neer at hand, and which Cretenfis, with all his gatherings, intelligences, obfervations, prefentations from Sectaries of feverall forts, Ana- bapt ids, Independents, Seekers, &c. and of feverall parts in the Kingdome , Kent, Eflex, London, &c. hath been able to fay no- thing againft; and might, going from one particular to another, triumph over Cretenfis, Stamping the fuperfcription of Truth upon them, and ask him, What fay you to the 84. and 85. errours laid down in the Catalogue ? Is it not true that fuch things were preached in London ? Whether is not that which I have related of Paul Beft true ? Whether did not Mafter Burroughs and Ma- tter Cjreenhlll preach bitterly againft the Petition of many well affected Citizens for the fetling of Government ? And fo I might goe through hundreds ; and of all thofe facts, opinions, practices that thefe three men have not been able (though fo willing) to except againft, inferre, conclude, and flouriiri over Cretenfis with his own fword. There is no reafonable man, that confiders the maiignitie, wrath, &c. of Mafter Saltmarfu, Mafter Walwjn, but especially of Qretenfis againft mee and my late Book,and the op- portunities they have had through their acquaintance with Se- ctaries of all forts ; befides the publick notice given of anfwering mee, as appears by the intelligence and particulars brought in to Cretenfis from feverall places, to furnifti him their champion ; to- gether with the extreme eager defire offretenfis taking all advan- tages againft me, making matter of confutation and lies of that which I am confident was never made by any Scholar in an Anfwer before,(as,f/v houfiea meeting for Se&arles; as,the not being able to ■put the Nominative cafe and Verb together, and fuch like) but will think they have fpoke the utmoft they poflibly could againft my Book, and that of courfe fome of the things drawn up and repre- Jented by the hand of Envie muft needs be falfc ; fo that where- as - • V I u and Pra&ices of the Se&atHtr 129 as Cretsnfis conceives, that now in his Anfwer hee hath informed the world how many lyes and untruths there are -in gangrtna] the truth is, that he arid his feilow-fe&aries have done it butfaint- ly, and with the extreme damage of their own caufe : for all wife and unprejudiced men wiH acquit. ail the other particulars from -the crimes and imputations of lies and fahhood, and conclude them ail true and certain ; for fureiy, if there had been any hole to have beenpicked in them, either the malice, or the wit, or the induftry,, or one thing or other of (fretenfis and his a Edwards grapes, yet fufficient , he prefumes, to convince th& Reader , th%t hUs vine is the vine of Sodom, &c. and profeffes that hee hath not read* tine tjU&rter of the Boohjts yet, nor kno^ces not whether hee /ha/I ever care Pj reddeit thorow or no; and then iabours to poflefle the Reader, that Vthathee hath not anfwer edj others Will very fhortly : a few dayes ('hee makes m queffiior*). Will give, the Reader more light u comprehend the darkle ffe afh of that dur.t And filth which M. Edwards' hath caft upon them, Gan- gra*na willbe found aflr-styipet, yea, and of the race and linage of that great fear let Whore tyhich corrmpteth the earth with for fornication. As for Cretenfis faying, hee hath onely for prefect given a tafh ef.Mafter Edwards grapes \ implying, hee could feed the Reader ]Lepk< withwhole>clufters, aad intimating' hee hath a great deal more to* fay to my Book, as other parages 'exprefle befides this, iri£ Jfegg?$& ipnrefumtb^Mifim Gangrana bath mas jet paid me S the 130 Ajnyifar Difcovtry of the E rrours ifye tjthe or tenth fart of her forgeries.. &rc. I aniwer, I belcevc Cretenfis h&tbfzii all he poiTiblyVouldagainfi g.ungrana; I .doe not think hee left out any thing he could abject againft it : who- foever reads but his Anfwer, and obferves his rage and heat,.his glaying at the fmalleft games , and picking of. ftraws to finde matter againft my Book, to fill up fix -fheets with, railing and de- claming againft it,, will not think he gave but at afte, or a tenth, But how could Cret.enfis fay hee had given, onely atafte for the prefent, and not the tenth part, when as he profefies truly hee had not read one quarter of the Book^then, neither knew whether hee pjonld ever care to read it thorow or no f Could hee divine of what hee had not read, norknew:not whether ever hee fhould reade^ that there was ten times more behinde ? And befides, How Gould Cretenfis, out of what he knew not whetherhe fhouldever readey promife the Reader to give him not onely atafte,jbut abundance > Certainly (fretenfis, meant the farre greateft part of his grapes- promifed the Reader, ihould be gathered by other hands, and be (as hee faith of the particulars detected already) obferved by others, and prefented to him : and after this rate of the farre greateft part of particulars obferved by others, and prefented*. to? fiim, 'tis eafie for &m**fib £0, give Anfwers,;- and I much wonder, wee have nomo^eofttem^but that hee takes aim oft twoye£& to give an Anfw er t$ the Antttpologie. And no wonder, Cretenfii going upon an implicite faith,, maSing- an Anfwerout of particu- lars obferved by, others, without reading one quarter of my Book, not feeing vv^his owneAeyes, but, making-ufe of av pair of Independent, Antinomian,. Anabaptifticalh&c. fpectacles to write with, the man is fo much miftaken, andfometimes takes that to* be great which is little, and that which is great he cannot fee at all. As for that Cm^/w faith, that hee, prefumes by the tafte hee hath given, hee hath convinced^ the Reader that my vine is the vine of Sodam, my grapes grapes of gall, my clufters bitter, &c. I beieeve every Reader who is. not bewitched with the Inde- pendent Schifmaticall way, is convinced, t\m.Cretenfis hath faid enough to fatisfie alLmen,jhat his vine is the vine of Sodom, that? his. grapes are grapes of gajl3 kk wiflQ the poyfonlof dragons^ and the cruell.venonie of afp^j mi fhsfcgenf p%}- fended with it^ufe it hilars WWglM W&™S?t . ■ f, T'-' , treating my con— nam wmnc^nitaz pramift tuavvlfpallnot wane what their prayersaad endeavours can contribute to that, work. £ Letter from a-godljr &fia*W out of Warwickshire writes ;huj3M^.book does much good he re. wans 1 3 6 A further Difcovery oftheErrours want of growing up to fuch a number as they defigne and hope for, they may mifle of a Toleration, and fo in the ifliie, a Domi- nation, which is fo much fought for by them. And for a concb- fion of my Reply to Cmenjisy I {hall turn my felf to fpeak a few words to Mafter qoodwin, and to the Reader; Mafter G^db/#, Confider fadlyof what you have done in your Book Cretenfis, how you are become guilty, and-have made your felfe partaker of all the herefies, blafphemies, wicked practices I have fpoken againft, in pleading for ail (without any diftincldon) as Saints, fervants of God, and fuch like ; and fpeaking againftwith enve- nomed malignity that neceftary ufefuli Book as a very peft and plague, which I writ for difcovery of errours and erroneous per- fons,that fo the Saintsmight take heed,and beware of them ; and in which all godly, orthodox, faithfull Minifters doe rejoyce, and *w h^hm ^We Godfor it. O wretched man,to carry things fo,as if errors from particular would doe no harm to mens foules , but a Book written againft' ^'"b^arin^vv^* t*iem \ ^^ w*^ ^uri anc* nazxar(* mens ^ou^s ; which is all reflex and Co Let- one, as if a man {hould fay, Strpng poyfon would do no hurt, nor VJfaUl&m?eur ^ kut a precious antidote will deftroy and ruine^nens bodies. %&l and from And now, good Reader, I defirethee :impa^iaUylandiwithdtst ether places, prejudice to weigh Cretcnfis objections and exceptions againft my Book, and my Anfwers, and then judge whether I have not wounded, and laid this great Gollah of the Sectaries (coming outr in defiance againft the Reformed Churches) upon his back ; and whether God, who chufeth the. weak things of the world to con- found the things that are mighty ; and things which are jjefpifed* to bring to nought things that are of efteem, hath not made life ofmee, a man fo vilified by the Sectaries, a po»r weake thimble" . full of du ft, by the wind ftrongly. blowing this tjiimbk full of duft into ftetenjis eyes,to blinde him,and befool himhi And yet I have not done with Cretenfis^vx. Jet the Reader look, for whaijs behind, < viz,, my fuller Reply ; and whateyer mthis firft isr either omitted^ or not fo fully fpoken,. unto,,.; in .that .'free may Jooj£ to receive more fatisfa&ion. And I no whit doubt, but that, as I have now (by G6ds aiTiftance) made a good beginning both defensive and ofFeiifive ; fo by the fame good tiand^pon me, I (hall in the next givefo good aft account, that! ftialideale with this daring ene- mies little David with golkb, ftand upon him, and triumph o- VVJC md Brattices of the SeBarier. 1 37 ver him, and give you his head upon the top of my {word : And in my next I intend to dretfe him up and fet him out in all his or- naments and flowers, in his practices, opinions, and wayes of promoting them ; in all which I {hall render him and his name an abhorring to this and the following generations. Since Cretenfis anfwer, there is a Book come forth, written by one Mailer Bacon, which Book is anfwered by one Matter Cor- bet, (the man whom in that Book hee fo often fpeaks of) and 'tis abroad in print already : What I fpeak of him in G&tgrtna, hee in that Book confefl'es, as his being caft out of Glocefter, and his coming to London, &c. fpeaking particularly of that which I touched onely, and but in generall (as the Lords houfe in which hee lives.) And befides that, I hear one Web hath an Anfwer in the PrelTe to what I relate of him in fag. 106, 107. which An- fwer, before it went to the Prefie, by a providence came to my hand without ever feeking it , or indeed imagining that ever Web (fuch an Heretick and Blafphemer) durft have appeared in print, or been taken notice of to be in London, for fear of be- ing queftioned for thofe things I have written of him : But wee may fee what fad times we are fallen into, and that the Sectaries are grown fearlefle, that they dare come abroad, and plead their defperate caufe, as Mafter Saltmarfb,Walwjn^ fo now Mafter Bacon, ix\Aweb\ which fymptome, among many others, makes mee fear the night and darknefle is at hand, when as the wolves and the wilde beafts dare come thus out of their dens ; whereas when the Sunne arifes they goe to their dens. The Pfalmift tels US, Pfal. 104. 20, 22. Thou make/} darknejfe and it ia night , when all the beafls of the forrefl doe creef forth. The Sun arifeth, they gather twmf elves together, and lay them down in their dens. Hence the Scripture calls wolves * the wolves of the evening; and look * ZapKj-j. as the frogs croaking and making a noife ufes to be in the even- ing, fo the croaking of falfe Teachers refembled to wolves, the beafts of the forrefl: , and frogs, prefages the going downe of the Sun, and night coming. But becaufe I purpofe not to trouble my felfe with giving any formall anfwer to it by it felfe, I {hall now give thefe Animadverfions upon it: j. That Web confef- £es moll: of the things I relate of him; onely hee faith of fome of them, hee had recanted and difclaimedthem^ and I ihould T noc j ^ 8 dfurlherDifcoveryoftheErrours not have upbraided him, but re joyced irr his converfion. But un- to that I reply, Had not this Web, fince his Recantation and Re- ieafe, both in Citie and Countrey, vented many deifperate things, and gone on in his hereticall waves, I fhould never have men- tioned them. Secondly, Thatthis Web rancks himfelfe in his Anfwer among the Independents, fpeaking of mee as being fo a- gamfthim out of my ill will to Independents ; and Irlnde^« Bachiler, an Independent,, not onely (April i. 1646 .) fetting his Imprimatur, but helping him in his Anfwer, mending feverall things in the Arifwer ; as for example, For thofe words I charge him with, that hee fhould hyyfor him to fay hee tyat eqnallmth Chrift, Was no robber] : in his Anfwer to that, Bachiler helps this BJafphemer, and takes part with him : asforinftance,- whereas Web juftifies it, that c Gods love is the fame in every refpecl: unto c the Saints as unto Chrift, and therefore a Saint may fay he is e-- i quail with Chrift, and count it no robbery ; \_in every refpecT\ is blotted out by Bachiler, And Web further pleading hee might fay, The Saints were equall to Chrift ; next following thefe words of Webs, \_As I conceive, the Word of Cjod to be my rulef\ there is interlined under Bachilers hand thefe words, provided I meet with a fair and candid interpretation of my Voordsf\ And fo I could inftance in divers other alterations : fo that wee may fee, the Independents will not lofe any the moft blafpemous, Athei- fticall heretical! men, but further them, and joyn with them a~ gainft the Presbyterians, iiceniing their Writings, helping them to conceale, and deliver more cauteloufly their dangerous opini- ons. Thirdly,. For that which is related by mee in Cjangrma of Webs fpeaking fo wickedly of the Scriptures, hee denyes it not, but faith to this purpofe, How could hee fay fo? for hee fhould contradict himfelfe in other things which he hath faid and holds : . But to that I anfwer , Tis no new thing for fuch men as hee to fay and unfay, affirme and deny according to the companies they come in, and advantages they think they have. Fourthly, To that which I relate of him concerning thofe expreffions of his, Wee might not fay , Cjod the Father, Cjod the Sonne, God the holy Cjhofi, hee makes fome fhuffling Anfwer; but I reply, Heefpake io, and I can produce good proof of that and all the reft. If a Committee of Parliamentihall be pleafed to take notice of it, *" * and and PrdSifes of the Seftaties. 139 and fend for this Web, and proceed againft him upon proof, I am ready to produce witnefies , and upon his owne confeifion and thofe witnefles to make proofe. Onely I defire the Reader to take good notice of one exprelTion in his Anfwer to this head, which {hewes the ignorance both of him and Bachiler in the very principles of Religion ; and is not Bachiler a fit man in fuch aKingdome as this, to be a Licencer of Divinitie Books and Controversies, who befides that hee is no Minifter, nor well ftudied man, is fuch an Ignoramus as this cleerly difcovers him to be ? V/eb faying hee acknowledges the Trinitie, the Father, Son, and holy Ghoft, hath thefe words, that bee acknowledges the Fa- ther is the Sonne, and the holy Cjhoft, and fo^that purpofe ; where- as wee are taught from the Scriptures by all orthodox Divines, that though every Perfon be God, as the Father is God, the Sonne is God, and the holy Ghoft is God; yet the Father is not the Son, nor the Father is not the holy Ghoft; nor the Son the Father,rnorthe holy Ghoft. Now Bachiler pades this, and though he mended many other palTages in Webs Anfwer, putting in words inibme places, blotting out words, and changing fome expreflions for others, yet hee let this.pafle without any correl- ation or note upon it ; which no man can conceive to proceed from any thing elfe but profound ignorance. And that the Rea- der may know I ipeake thefe things upon good ground , I per- ufed this Anfwer after it. was licenfed with Mafter Bachiler s hand, and compared the hand of Imprimatur , John Bachiler, with the hand where other words were put in, and found it the fame hand, and writ out with my hand, feve rail amendments made by %hn Bachiler, which I have by mee in writing, and then fubfcribed my hand under them , with the day of the moneth when I extracted them out of theoriginall Copie ; and one be- ingwith mee, who was a witnefle of all this, I alio intreated his hand to atteft it, which hee willingly did : all which I can produce to fatisfie any man who defires it. And for the winding up of all I have to fay by way of Re- ply, to Mafter Saltmarjh, MzftenGoodwin, Sec, in vindication of my gangrana , by this time tMReader may fee what to thinks if among fo many hundred particulars which are laid downe by mee of Errours, Herefies, Blafphemies, Stories, &c, with fo T 2 much 142 A further Difcovery of the Errours 29. The promifes belong to finners as iinners, not as repent- ing, or humbled finners. 30. Faith is truly and limply this, a being perfwaded more or lefle of Chrifts love. 3 1 . That there is no other Seale but the Spirit, and for the ele- ments confecrated to be Signs and Seals to us in the Sacraments, they are not, but empty things and of no effe&. 32. That Chrift'is Baprifme to us, the outward Ggn need- leffe. 33. NoChriftianMagiftratehath power of inflicVmg capi- tall puni(hment,and taking away of the life of any member of a Church, unlefTe firft he bee caftout of the Church , and (o deli- vered to the fecular power, no, what ever his offence mould be, though murthcr or treafon. 34. That place of Scripture, He that Jheddetb mans blond, by man jball bU blond be jhed7 belongs to Mojcs his Difciples, and not to Cbrifts Difciples, and Ghriftians have nothing to do ' with it. In my laft Book I gave the Reader an account of many of the pra&iies of the Sectaries, both more generally and particularly ; and I inftanced in twenty eight pra&ifes : Now, though there are many more behind, yet becaufe my Book is both expected iud- denly to come forth, and is enlarged beyond my firft intention, I will only inftance in two. r. They do deny and profeffe to many that they are no In- dependents, no Antinomians, no Anabapdfts, but they are thus, and thus,and will be (band fo;and thefe are but reproachfull names given our,and caft uponhoneft, godly, confcientious men by the Minifters and Presbyterians, as Puritan,and fuch like,were in for- mer times by the Bimops-, and of this I could give the Reader many proofs in printed Books of the Anabaprifts, Independents, Antinomians, as fuch Churches falfely call'd Anabaptifts, &c. And now there's never an Independent in England^ yoii will but take what them (elves fay, though they be fuch who ftickle, a£t, work, vote, and by all waves, in all places, where they have any thing to do, promote, fide with Independents, Anabaptifts, &c, ^^they will confidently lay they are no Independents, they are and Pra&ifes of the Se&arier. 1 4 3 of no Church way, nor know not what Vis ; nay fomeof them will fay they are Presbyterians in their judgement, or at leaft do wait and flay to fee what chs reiults of the AfJembly and Par- liament afcer them will be ; and yet there's many of thefe men, that let any perfon or thing come in nomination and competition, that concerns Presby terie, and they will favour, promote, further Independency foe it right or wrong) and on the contrary discountenance, hinder , obftruct the Presbyterians, wherein they juft walk in che fteps of the Biftups and thur creatures , who upon all occasions difclaimed Popery, Arminianifme, and when Papifts and Arminians were fpoken of, they would be hot againft them, and were againft Popery properly fo call'd (as the expre£ fion was, and againft Armniw ( meaning thofe points Aminim- held about che government of the Church) not thofeof Grace and Fre-wiil,&c. and yet thefe Biftiopsand their Chaplains pre- ferd Arminians and perfons Popiftily affected, lieenfed Books ten— ding that way, brought them off when in trouble, would remem- ber thofe who preached againft Popery and Arminianifme; and it was observed, and I have been told it by a man of place in thofe times, who difliked fuch wayes , that when the Arcn-Bifhop bluftered and fpoke moft againft any Prieft or Papift, and for the Church of England, then the next newesthey were (lire to hear of, was a Releaie; and whether there be not too many fuch in thefe times who will not be accounted Independents, Anabaptifts, An- t'momian?j that yet countenance their Books, are familiar with fuch, being all in all with them, bringing them off when inrjue- ftion, fitting hard on the skirts (when there's any opportunity^ of a!! thofe who have complained or been active againft the Se- ctaries, I leave to all to judge. 2. Some of the Sectaries when they have been que (Honed, and in trouble, or been by fame Minifters convinced , that they had nothing to fay for themfelves and their way, have and will do any thing for the prefent, as recant, confclTe their Errours, Qy they are convinced and fatisfied , promile never to go about preaching or dipping any more • and yet afterward?, when free, and come to their companions, go on in their wayes, both againft their hand?, promises, profedions ; and of this there are many examples and jnftances among us, as of a Sectary an Emiffary fens 1 44 A further Difcoveryofthe Errourt km into North amp t on fhire^ being for his Doctrines, feparated meetings, affronting a Minifter in the Pulpit, complained of by fome Minifters, and queftioned by the Magiftrates, gave it under his hand to forbear his courfe, & return home; yet afterwards goes to other parts of the Country ,and drawes the people into houfes, preaching to them,&:c. So fome Sectaries of Lams Church, or their great Affociates coming into EJfex, to corrupt the people; and fome of the Minifters dealing with them upon fomeof their tenets, convinced them fb, as that they openly bleffedGod for that dayes work, and the light they had received, even weeping for joy; and yet prefently afterwards going on their progreffe to ieduce at another Town in the fame County ffbme hint or notice being given of their late conviction) they faid they wept to think how nigh the Minifters were come to them; andfo I might give infhnce in Chrkfon9 profeffing againft dipping to get out of prifon, and as Coon as he was loofe, turning Seeker; and Co in Weh$ but I muft take off my hand; only this fulfils what is fpoken in the Scriptures of Hereticks, that they have their cmfciences feared with a hot iron, and finne hting condemned of them/elves. A Relation offotneftortes. and other remarkable pajjages concerning the SeSs^ andSe&aries. THere is an Independent Antinomian Libertine Preacher here in London, a man much followed and cried up by the Secta- ries, who in Sermons hath delivered thefe paffages, Th.it a pore rvhooremafier^ or a poore drunkard cannot look^ into your Churches (fpeakingof the Presbyterian Preachers) hut hell-fi^e mufl be flafed and thrown in their faces. That if a Saint fhould commit a groffe finne , and upon the committing thereof fhoM be flartkd at it , that were a great finne in him : And in obedience to this and other Doctrines of fome of the Sectaries of our times, I will give the Reader fome inftances both of words and fads. There is a godly undemanding man: an old Difciple, who told me on April 28. 1646. that having a daughter, a young maid, re- ligioufly affected, (hee was drawn in to affect the Independents, and to cry them much up, and to follow them, and fliee procured .her : and Praftkes of the Se&arief. 1 4 5 herfelf tobefervantinafamily of fonie ranck and place, where the Mafter and Mift refle are Independents : Now being there, mee expected fbnie great holinefle and extraordinary ftricWffe in the family; but me found masters thus, On the Lords day they were very loofe, in the forenoon they w ould go to hear Mafter Sttrry at WbiU'hdU,(zs not living farrefioni thence) but in the after- noon ftay at home, and Tome other Independents and Sectaries refo- ring thither on 1 he Lords day in the afternoon, they fpentitin common difcourie, making no mere of it then ether dayes; a grest parr of their difcourie on the Lords day being railing a- gainft the Scot**, and ajiainftibme of our Minifters, and the books written again ft the SectarLs ; and feme nun (whom a man could liardly have thought it of J would curfe the Scots, faying a pox upon the Scrts$ would they were gone, we would give them ^ny thing to be rid of them, and pay them all their money in time : many perionsof note of the Independent fa&iop, did often refort to this houfe, and (till they would fpeak moil bitterly and bafely of our Brethren of Scotland: The Mafter of the family would be often atterr pting to kidechis young maid, watching her upon the ftairs and other places, as going up and down, and hath tempted her to be naught, in fo much that the young nuld fp.ke to him, Sir, you have a wife of your own, why mould you fpeak thus, how dare you offer to do this wickednefTe and f nne againft God, unto whom this Gentleman the Independent (and an Antinc- -«nantofurely) replyed, That God faw no finne in his children, dg| thatthefe were but finnes in the flefb, which Chrift hadfatisfied for, with other words to that purpofe : Onetime this man tern* pting her,threwher all along, fj that (be was forced to cry our, and her Miftreffe came in torier refcue, and faid, fie husband, will you never leave the(e tricks ? whereupon the maid would not flay, but came away, and when her Father heard it, be would not endure (re mould ^ay any longer, but had her away presently 5 and f 3 this young maid is converted from being an Independent and Sec"hry,by beholding their carnage and loofenefle , b! effing God me is delivered from that way, and thole perfbns : fhe had thought the Sectaries bad been fuchholy perfons^that there hadbeene none like them, till (he (aw both frhat family, and many who retorted chkherofthe fame way (o loole: This godly Chriftian tels me U that 146 A further Difcovery of the Errours that bis daughter is ready to take her oath of the truth of thete things which me hath both feen and heard, and with many cir- cumitances hath declared to him,as the names of iuch that referr- ed thither, that (he never knew nor heard of be fore, with other eircumftances, and thathebeleevesthenitobefb true, as that they are paftallqueltion. There is a Sectary, an Independent AntinomianTavlor,wbo dealing a whole yard of PluGi from a Gentleman, and fome yard&of Satten from another, and being found out in his finne, and convinced,fo that he could not deny it ; fome ipeaking to him how forry they were that fuch a man as he mould do fuch things ; he replied, (as I had it from two honeft men of good account) to this effect, that he was troubled for them tofeethemforry,butas for hitn(elf he was not troubled. One of the followers of Mailer Sj^>/0» the Antinomian, (aid it in the hearing and pretence of divers (Matter Symtfon being thenal(bprefent)T^ if a child cf Godjbould commit murtber, be ought not to repent of it, and Mafter Sympfott never reproved him for ie, though by one prefent in the company he was (poken unto to doit. An Antinomian Preacher preaching in London on a Faftday, (aid, It was better for Cbrifiians to be drinking in an Ale-bouJex or to- be in a wborehoxfe, then to be keeping fafls legally. Many Sectaries have (aid, that when David lived in adultery and number, even before his repentance he was as dear in the fighc of God as ever he was at any time. There is one Samuel Oats a Weaver (a man I have (poken of in my former Book, and in this too, page 10.) who being of Lams Church, is (ent out as a Dipper and EmifTary into the Countries? Lad Summer I heard he went his progrelle into Surrey and Sujfex^ but now this yeer he was (ent out into Sjfex about three or four months ago, and for many weeks together went up and down from place to place, and Town to Town about Boch n, Braintry, Tarlingy and thofe pares, preaching his erroneous Doctrines, and dipping many in rivers; this is a young lufty fellow, and hath traded cheifly with young women and young maids, dipping ma- ny of them, though all is fifli that comes to his net, and this he did with all boldneffe5 and without all controul for a matter of two and PraSkes of the Sectaries 147 two months : A godly Miniftcr of Ejfex coming out of thofe parts related, hi hath baptized a great number of women, and that they were call'd out of their beds to go a dipping in rivers, dipping many of them in the night, (b that their husbands and Matters could not keep them in their houfes, and ''tis commonly reported thar this Oats had for his pains r o. (hillings apeece for dipping the richer, and two millings fixe pence for the poorer ; he came very hare and mean into E[fex> but before he had done his work, was well lined, and grown purfie. In the cold weather, in March, he dipped a young woman.one Ann Martin ("as her name is given in to n:ej whom he held fo long in the water, that (he fell present- ly Tick, and her belly (weld with the abundance of water (he took in, and within a fortnight or three weeks died , and upon her death-bed exprefled her dipping to be the cau(e of her death. There was a Mother woman alfowhom he baptized, as a godly Mrniftef that came out of tho(e parts, and had been at Eraintree related to me from a good hand, whom after he had baptized, he bid her gape, and (he gaped, and he did blow three times into cl3 her mouth, (ay ing worcs to this purpofe, either receive the boly (?hejii or now thou baft received the brfj Ghoft. At la ft for his dipping one who died fo presently after ir, and other mifdemea- nors the man was queftioned in the Country , and bound over to the Sedions at Cbenfford, where April the feventh 1 6\6. this Ons appeared, and I had the relation I now (peak of, from three per- fons that were eare and eye witnefles, two godly Minifters , and the other a Gentleman of great worth and quality, viz. thac Oats being brought before the Bench, the Coroner laid to his charge, that in fJMtrcb laft, in a very cold (eafon, he dipping a young woman, (he prefently fell fick, aud died within a more time, and though the Coroner had not yet perfected his fitting upon her death, all witnefles being not yec examined, nor thQ Jury having brought in their verdict ((btbat the full evidence was not pre tented) yet the Bench upon being acquainted with the cafe, and other foule matters a!(b being there by witneils laid agafnft him, committed him to the Jaile at Ccfchefter: It was laid to his charge then, that he had preached againft the Afie£ merits of Parliament, and the taxes laid upon the people, teach- ing them? that the Saints were a free people, and mould do U 2 what 1 4 8 . A further Discovery of the Err ours what they did voluntarily., and not be compelled ; but now con- trary to this, they had affltTement upon afTefDmenc,and rate upon rate. Some paffiges alfb in his prayer were repeated, as that he prayed the Parliament might not cart the Ark, nor meddle with making lawes for the Saints, which Jefus Chrift was to doe alone- Since Oats commitment to Golcheiter jaile , there hath been great and mightie refort to him in the prilon, many have come down from London in Coaches to vide him, as a godly Minifter who came oat of EiTex told mee : And I have a Letter by me from a Minifter in Colchefter} fent laft week to a friend of bis in Lon- don, wherein he writes thus 5 Oats the Anabaptifl bath bid great rejorf to him in tie C a file, beth of Town and Cvumrej 5 But the Com* mittee ordered tbe contrary laft Saturday. There is one Colliery, great Se&ary in the Weft of Englan j,a me- ehanicall fellow, and a great Emiflary, a Dipper, who goes about Surrey, rJampfhire,and thofe Counties thereabouts,preaching and dipping •, About a fortnight agoe on the Lords day he preached at Guilford in the meeting-place, and to the company or one old M. Clo(ei an Independent Minifter, who hath fet up at Guilford* and done a great deale of mifchiefe, having drawn away many of the well-meaning people from the miniftery of thofe godly Mini- fters, whom before they much prized; there this Collier exerciied, and it was given out in the County he was a rare man, and the people came from the Towns about to hear him : This fellow^ in his circuit, at an exercife where he was preaching to many wo- men for rebaptization and dipping, madeufe of that Scripture to that purpoie (as 'tis reported) Ifa.^2. And in that dayfevenwa- twnjbaUtakt hold of one man, faying, Wet mill eat our own breaa\and wear our owne apparcll : onely let u* be called by thy name^totah^oy way out reproach. And truely, it is a fad thing there (hould be fuch Emiflaries f 10 like the Diveli their Matter, compaffing the earth, and going about reeking whom they may devoure) in the feverall parts of the Kingdome , North, Eaft, Weft , and South, not one part free; for the Eaft and South, wee who live in thefe parts know it fully, for London, Kent, the AfTbciated Counties. As for the Weft, (befides this inftance of Collier) I received a Let- ler out of Dorfetfhire, dated March 1 3. written by a godly Mi- sifter from thence- Sir9 1 am not yet ptrnifhed to my minde with par- ticulars and PraSkes of the Se3ar??s. 1 49 ficu'ars of that nature you expctl^ but with the help of my fellow- Adi- rafters in tbefe parti, I fhall jitii them to you in an exi& Hifiory of our JVeftern confufions , And for the North, beficks manyinftances I could give ot Hull, Beverly, York, Halifax, &c. o'f Indepen- dent Churches gathered there, and of many Anabaptifts and o- ther Series in thofe places, I (hall onely defire the Read r to niinde thefe three or fair lines written to mee from a Counrrey farther North : I received t':e Books fent mee, and fall make the kjl ufe lean of them ; the one I tyeffr mine owneufe, the other I plei~ fure friends with ( and truely never more netd in our Count' ey ;^ for where a* formerly we wanted the frftniflery, now we have fuch variety and flrift amongji them, that trttdj 1 kyiow net what will become of w. A perfbn of qualitie and a godly man told me {April 15.) meet- ing mee accidentally in Weftminfter Hall, that (faith hee) Ju3 now3neerthe Houfe of Commons door, I had difcourfe with a great Se&arie {viz. one cf Wrights Difcipies, and prefemly the man came into the Hall with another great Se&arie, and he (hew- ed me him:) andthedifcourfe was as followes. That hee would be loth the Parliament fhculd bring Paul Beits blond upon them for his denying the Trinitie. Whereupon this Gentleman anfwered him, that hee could prove cleerly out of the Scriptures a Trinitieof Perfons. Unto whom this Se&arie replyed, How wiH }ou prove ' the Scriptures to he the word ej God? and this Se&arie reafoned a* gainft them,faying, there were twenty feverall Scriptures, as n any as Tranflations ; and Tranflations are not true • for (b the Priefts will tell us, that this is not rightly tranflated: and for the O i- ginals there are divers Copies 5 beiides, I cannot underftand them, neither is it my fault that I doe not : In fumme, the man reafoned there was no Religion at all in the Kingdome, but all Religion that hee knew of was, To doe iiiftly, and be mercifully Unto which the Gentleman replyed, The Heathen they were jult and meici- full, and therein did as much as you* This Se&arie rejoyned, For ought hee kpew, the Heathens were faved as well at any now, A godly Minifterof the County of Middlefex told mee {April i6>) that there was a great Sectary and a fculdier, becaufe he had perfwaded a family that hee was well acquainted with , and where this Se&ary rnuchxeforted3 to caft him off/and to have no- thing ISO A further Difcovery of the Errours thing to doe with him $ this Sectary conceiving it to come from this Miolder, 'when this Minifter came downs one day to this hou!e, this Sectary came to the heufe and enquired for hiflft to fpeake with him ; this Minifter fearing the Divell might ftirre him up to doe him fome mifchiefe, refufed to fpeake wuh him, as having no bufinefTe with him $ this (buidier and Se&ary fent hirii in word, if foe would not come out to him} hee would come in to him : whereupon hee deflred the Ma* fter of the hotife hee nrght be fafe in his houle,.- and as hee came in love to him, Co hee would defend him, and let him returne home in fafecy ; whereupon the Mafter of the houfe tent out a fer* vant to him to be gone, for this Minifter had nothing to fay to him 5 and as the (crvant was going, this Se&ary was already come in: whereupon thefervant asked him why hse came in without bidding ; hee repiyed, to fpeak with Mafter — — ; upon that the fervant caught him by the coller, and faid he fhould not ; the Mafter hearing them buftle together, he went out, and his wife followed to oppofe him ; and in conclufion, having his knife before ready by his fide, hee reached it to pare the durtoffhis fhooes, to fb.ake it oft againft that houfe, bccaufe they would not receive him,as making himfelf an Apoftle : and when he had done fo, hee departed. There is one Mafter Durance, a preacher at Sandwich in Kents a bold conceited man, and an Independent, who fince the begin- ning of this Parliament was a Wafhing-ball-maker, or feller of wailiing-halls herein London, but now turned preacher; and being never ordained Minifter, hath confecrated himfelfe to be one of the Priefts of the high places : among many high afte&ed ftrains of new light, and ftrange expretflons which the man ufes in his fermons and prayers to get himfelfe a name by , viz,, of a Wafhing-ball-maker to become flich a rare man, thefe are fome ; He prayed to the Trinitie to take care or cure of thefe three King- domes, God the Father to take care of one, God the Sonne of the feeond, and God the holy Ghoft of the third Kingdome : he prayed alio for Jefus Chrift, that God would,&c. A godly Minifter in Northamptonfhire told mee (April 11.) 4that there was a Seclarie in his PariLh, a yeoman, who hath laid it to him and to many others, that now the time is coming, when we and Practices of the SeUarks. 151 wefliall all have and be alike : I frail have as much eftate as fuch <=f3 a Knight, naming a Knight of great eftate in that County, one Sir w* TV. This Sectary alfo holds there is no hell. There is a godly Minifter in Eflex who related this ftoiy to me (April 6.) in the prefence of a Minifter of the Aflembly, and hee who told it me had it from the mans own mouth, whom this Mi- nifter knowes well to be an honeft godly man: This man, viz, one Mafter A. living at R. in Eflex, a godly religious man, and an old acquaintance of Mafter Shidr. Sympfon, coming up to Lon- don, and meeting with Mafter Sympfin, among other difcourfe, asked him if hee might come to his Church, and whether the Sa- crament of the Lords Supper would be adminiftred the next Lords day, and whether hee might come to it : Mafter Sympfin anfwered yes, hee had the Lords Supper, and hee might 'come ;.. whereupon this Mafter A* went, and after Sermon flayed with the reft of the company to partake in the Lords Supper, and joyning with them, received the bread ; which when he had re- ceived, there were fome of the Church-members began to take notice he was none of their Church, and there was a great ftirre and muttering about it, and they told him they admitted none but of their Church-way : whereupon this religious man was not permitted to partake of the cup, but was glad to withdraw, the Independents dealing with him (though a.godly man, and a vi- fible Saint, becaufe hee was not one of their members) juft as the Papifts doe with the people, allowing them the bread, but not the wine. When all was done, this Mafter A. went to Mafter Sympfin, and fpake to him, faying, Sir, Did you not tell mee I might come to the Lords Supper at your Church ? Mafter Sym- pfin replyed, I faid you might come, but not that you might re- ceive. Upon this bufinefle the honeft man was much troubled,and for their adminiflring the Sacrament to him after the Popifh man- ner, they have loft aProfelyte of him, this having quite turned him oft from the Independents. The fame Minifter at the fame time related it to mee for cer- tain, as a thing not onely known to him , but to many in the Countie of Eflex, that a compounded Sectary, an Anabapdft,&c, whofe dwelling is at Caftle-Henningham, preached at Chensford in ahoufe where (as a common fame goes) there s wine and wo- meiv 152 A farther Dtfcoverj of the Errottrs men good ftore ; and as he was preaching to the Sectaries, there came by the houfe a kind of a vvilde Gentleman, who was fpeak> ing againft the Presbyterians, and this man was brought in to the meeting whileft the Sectary was preaching ; and as in the very midft of their preaching there was wine and liquour, drinking to one another, fo before they parted there was good (lore of it'; thiswilde Gentleman for his part fpending about four {hillings,' who, when he was come away, meeting fome Gentlemen and o- thers, commended the men for honeft men, and praiiing then: meetings, faid, Why fliould they not have the liberty of their con- fciences? The fumme of 'a Sermon preached by a Sectary, and of fome Conferences with Sectaries. On New-yeers day, fan. i. 1645. a Surgeon bolongingto \ the Army preached at one Goodman Bolters of Eere, aTowne in the Weft, on Cohff.2. out of ver. 7. hee obferved, All the Saints dutie is to beleeve and be thankfull, (hee enlarged) Where's the humiliations, repentings for finne which your godly Minifters (you fay) have taught you ? Out of ver. 14. hee obferved, The hand- writing of ordinances, the ten precepts fair written by the finger of God,altogether taken away. On ver. r6. hee obferved, New Moons, Sabbaths, meats drinks, empty things ; Sabbaths not to be obferved, (hadowes, and (ince Chrifts coming taken a- way : hee faid., we had deceitfull Miniftery, Sacraments,Ordinan- ces, meats and drinks, though their learned godly Minifters had told them, that when they had confecrated them with their fan- ctified garments on, they were holy, and were to be given onely to thofe to whom they pleafed, yet empty, and lliadowes too. Afterwards, being asked what hee meant by thefe meats and drinks, whether the elements confecrated to be fignes and feales to us in the Sacrament : He faidyhee knew no feal but the Spirit; and for thofe things, they were empty things, and of no effect. Out of ver. 11, 12. That (there being three things in Baptifm, a death, buriall, and refurrection) Chrift was baptifm to us, and the outward figne needleile. The fame perfon in-private, in the houfe of a Reverend godly Miniilerj md Brattices of the Seftarier. 153 Minifter Mafter R. in conference aflerted , That there is no Sab- bath to be kept fince Chrifts fulfilling the law, fince no command . for it in the Gofpel. Hee being urged with places out of the Old Teftament and fourth Commandement : Hee, and a Capuin,and one Lieutenant /. affirmed, thofe belonged to the Jewes, not to us. 2. Being urged in point of prayer for forgivenefle of (innc with the Lords prayer : The Lieutenant faid, that the Lords Pray- er, when Chrift gave it to his Difciples, was fpirituall to them, but it is not fo to us. 3. The fame Lieutenant being urged with Da- vids practice of bewailing (in, and craving pardon, anfwered, Da- vid was under a double covenant, of the Law, and of Grace ; we only under that of Grace: and though a beieever (liould commit as great (ins as David, murther, adultery, there was no need for him to repent, and that (In was no fin to him, but a failing. 4. The Surgeon and the reft being told by fome parties prefent,that they would beleeve that which their godly Minifters had taught out of the word: he anfwereci,he doubted whether yet the word had been taught or no.Then the Surgeon asking what the word was : being anfwered, The Old and New Teftament j he repiied,Hee doubted whether thofe were the word or no. Then being asked what was the word ; he anfwered out olfohn 1.1. and told us, he knew no word but that. Item, This Surgeon and a Quartemafter-generali to the Regi- ment having conference with one Thomas Spere a Papift, asked him, How long he had abfented himfelf from the Church of Eng- land ; it was anfwered, twenty yeers ; They commended him for it, and told him they had done fo too, and w ere not them- felves of that Church. And hearing from him of fome of his o- ^ pinions, they told him by way of encouragement, hee faid well, and was able to fay more for his way , then all the Presbyterian Priefts in Dorfetfhire. Lieutenant /. being asked what hee thought of the Diredory ; anfwered, Hee thought of it as of the Common-Prayer,and of that as of the Maffe. Being likevvife ask- ed concerning the AlTembly of Divines ; he anfwered, They were moll: part of them enemies to Chrift and his truih. That Lieute- nant /. and an Enfigne denied all ecclefiafticail Government. I- tem, Lieutenant /. laid, hee fought not for the Parliament, buc for libertie of confidence, and not for Reformation. Item, Hee X affirmed, It? 1 5 4 AfurtherDiftcvery of the Err ours affirmed, that he thought dayes of publick Humiliation needier! e, and unlawfull, and would not obferve them. Item, Concerning Prayer ; That we muft not pray morning and evening, but when the Spirit puts ejaculations into us • for that were to make prayer an Idoll. This Sermon, and thefe Conferences are fubfcribed by the hands of godly perfons, two witneffes, and I have them in my hand to produce, but forbear the printing of their names, becaule I know not what prejudice may come to them by fome fouldiers that may goe that way. There is one A. a Shoomaker not farre off Tower-ftreet, who fpeaking of the AfTembly, faid, There were but feven in the Ai- fembly that flood for God, all the reft of them were for the Di- vell : An honeft godly man brought this fellow before aperfon of qualitie, and in Authority, for fpeaking thefe words ; and at firft this man denyed it : whereupon, he offering to fetch two witnef- fes to prove it, the man confefled it, and faid, hee had fpoken rafhly. The Sectaries have within this two yeers laft paft, efpecialiy this laft yeer fince the Victory at Nafeby,abufed (in the moft info- lent and unheard of manner, and that all kind of wayes) all forts and ranks of men even to the higheft,both particular perfons, and "whole Societies that have but any way appeared againft them, or they think will not be for them, as the King, Parliament, the Kingdome of Scotland, the Citieof London, the Aflembly, all the reformed Churches, the Ckie Minifters, particular Minifters, and other Chriftians, and as in their printed books , fermons, fpeeches, fo by affronts offered Minifters in • Churches, Pulpits, and feverall other wayes , and that in the higheft unfufferable manner that (confidering all things together) ever was in any age fince the coming of Chrift : and for the proof of this, a man might make a large book to fet down the pregnant undenyable inftances and particulars in this kind ; and a man would wonder what fhould be the myftery of it , and no queftion many doe (though for my part, I doe not) that this laft yeer, fince not oneiy the Aflembly, but the Honourable Houfes of Parliament have voted the Presbyterian Government, declared to the world they will fettle it, made divers Ordinances for it and about it, that and Pr&8ifes of the Se&arks, 155 that ever fince the Presbyteriall Government, all the Parts, Ads and Friends of it have been written, preached againft, and abufed more then ever; yea jealou(ies,faife reports,ealumnies raifed, nou- riftied,fornented,and yet never any of the Sectaries exemplarily punifhed,or their libels & defperate pamphletsjever publickly cen? feed (as I can learn,) or efte&uailcourfcs ufed to fuppreiie them % but let the men or the books be what they will, abufe whom they will, Parliament, Sec. fo that they do but abufe the Presbyterians, ^nd the Presbyteriall Government, and plead for the Indepen- dents and liberty of confeience , all is well enough; nay, not only fo;, but fome fuch books are licenfed , and feme perfons known to be mod defperately oppolke to the Presbyterians, to the Covenant, to our Brethren of Scotland, the AiTembly, to the godly orthodox Minifters,<#k£ men in great requeft, walking boldly in Weftrninfter Hall,at the Houfe of Commons door daily, familiar with fome Parliament men,preferd to places oftruft and honour,having favour in things wherein other men can find none; yea, have been able to doe thofe things for themfelv.es, and fuch whom they appear for,which otherwile were never likly,or not fo, quickly to have been effecTed. And in things, done by the Sectaries againft perfons affecTed to the Presbyteriail Government (though in the way and manner of doing them) if Presbyterians fhould do fo, it were a great breach of Pnviledge of Parliament, and an ar- raigning their Ordinances ; yet in the Sectaries tis nothing, nor wee never hear of any fuch complaint or words made of them : For inftance, How many Votes, Orders, Ordinances of Pari la- ment have been fpoken againft, writ againft, ads done point- blank againft the letter of them ? not humble Petitions made to reprefent the ftate of things, and to de(ire fo and fo ; but. down- right railings and fcoffes , or elfe taking cognizance of things whileft before the Houfes, and in debate : As for example, The, Aflembly,who fits by Ordinance of Padiament,Have they not bin fearfully abufed, fcorned by thofe Books of Arraignment of Per- fection, Martins Eccho, &c. and , now Lately by a Ballad made of them, having a firft and fecond part, wherein they are fcofled with the title of Black-bird 'Divines f The name of the Ballad a- gainft the AiTembly of Divines is calld A Prophecie of the S'wlnc- herds deftruttion, To the tune of themerrj Sculdier, or -the jovial X2 Tinker ; I 5 6 A further Difcovery of the Erronrs Tinker#xA two men pictured at rhe upper end of it, with the in* fnfcription of Sir fohn Presbyter, and Sir Sjmon Sy nod.This Ballad calls the AfTembly Swineherds, faith, Thefe Swineherds they arc fitting to build old Babels Tower: And in this Ballad t\\zDirettorj ™ made by the Aflembly \ and eftabliiGhed by Ordinance, is fcofled at, and the Aflembly is brought in and jeared at for being againft Anabaptifls, Brownifts, Independents : and they are in that Bal- lad cali'd Baals Priefts. The Aflemblies laft Petition to the Par- liament, whileft it was in debate before the Houfes, before they *&vhVR&t%- came to §ive tneir ^en^e of [t> * Sdtmarjb (the anagram of whofe £wb$vp ' name is to a tittle M. al's trajb) takes notice of it, prints a great part of it, prejudges and anticipates the Determinations of the Honourable Houfe of Commons, and ufes the Afl'embly very courfly. There is a pamphlet cali'd aA Letter of Advice unto the Miniflers aftembled at jVefkminfler , with feve rail Queries re- commended to their faddeft confide rations, wherein the Aflem- bly is not onely abufed, but threatned, that if they give advice to the Parliament againft a Toleration of Independents, they are fo many in number, that the Aflembly (hall be cbaflifed as evill Counfellers, diflurbers of Church and State , no /ejfe then great Stratford, or little Canterbury. In the cafe of Taut Eefl 9 whileft 'tis before the Houfe of Commons, and under debate, comes out a pamphlet cenfuring their proceedings againft him, as fearing what the fentence may be ; in aflerting the poiTibility of an Hereticks repentance fo long as hee lives, and fuch as doe any waves caufe him to die in herefie, as much as in them lies, doe effectually damne him eternally : and confequently, that Paul BeH, (what-ever his errour be at prefent) as well as Paul the A- poftle, once a Blafphemer,may one day become a Convert, if he be not untimely fterved to death before-hand. And to give onely one particular inftance more : There is a Book lately- come forth about the fixth of this moneth of May, call d Tender Qonfcience rcligioujly afetled , fearfully abuling and delcanting upon all the Ordinances of Parliament in refe- rence to the Directory, Ordination of Minifters, and Church- Government , leaving out none but the laft Ordinance about CommiHioners : wherein the Parliament and Afl'embly are unfiifterably reviled and railed at j and particularly the Par. liamenc and Pra Bices of the SeS drier. 157 lament charged with fpeaking blafphemie, and being guilcie of pamph. emir, many other crimes. 3£££& Doc not ihe Synod (having two horns like a Lamb, but a mouth like the Dragon) tearh the Parliament to fpeak blasphemy againfr tbofc Saints char dwell in heaven \ And fpeaking of the Preamble to one of their Ordinances, wherein the Parliament acknowledges their ftrong engagements heartily and fincerely to endea- vour the c»mpleat eftahlifhment of Purity and U .-.icy in the Church of God (for thtic arc the Parliam. words, net the AffcmbJies-J this book rails this Blafphemy, and faith of the Lords and Commons, For imme leave peaking bfalpfae my : Remrmberlhe judgements upon the Whore for her BlafJbeory. Where had the Lords and Commons tf is large Commi ITon to meddle in the affairs ofKing Jefus Co iarre, as to determine to have a cc mpleat efbblifhment or Purity and Unity ? And laftly, The Sectaries are fo violent, and infufYerably info- lent, that though they abuteperfons or things, or do the ftrangeft actions either againft Lawes or Ordinances, if they be but que- ftioned by any in authority for thefe things, in ftead ofconfef- fing their offences, fubmitting, and carrying themfelves peaceably and humbly, they will abufe and mifcall Authority to their faces, yea, fet out printed books againft them, reproaching and reviling them to the open world • of which I might give many inftances, as in the cafe of one Howes, committed lately by fome Juftices of Peace, upon two witnefles teftifying words fpoken by him dero- gatory to the fecond and third Perfons in the Trinity ; a book was printed, wherein they are reviled and clamoured againft. So upon one Lowers commitment, about a dangerous book entitu- ledy Londons I 'aft warning, there is a book put forth afperiingthe Lord Maior of London, the Committee of Examination, and the Right Honourable the Houfe of Peers. And laftly, upon Lieu- tenant Colonel! Lilburnes commitment many pamphlets were printed, fpeaking bitterly againft the Committee of Examinati- ons, and the Honourable Houfe of Commons; as Em lands Birth- right, feverall printed Letters, &c. The Sectaries have lately put forth two pamphlets with a picture drawn and affixed to them, greatly abufing all the Presby- terians : The firft is call d Dictated thoughts upon the Presbyteri- ans Lite Petitions to the T> arliament : the Other is the book calfd Tender Confcience retigioujly affeEled, propounding queftions upon the Ordinances of Parliament. The maine of the picture is an heart pictured, over which is written, Tender Confcience religi- cufly afeffed,mth(omc verfes over that: and under the heart,w?th daggers at it, ftands the Pope, the Prelat, and the Presbyter in themidft of them two, with a book in his hand where DWeftory & 158 A further Discovery of the Errours is written, Anti-cbrift ian Presbyter written by him,and the Crown under his foot, he treading upon it, and a dagger in his hand reaching at the heart of tender conscience, but a chain with a waight hanging at his arme, whereby he is hindred and fa's fome- what fhort of pricking tender con fcience with his dagger. Now I could wright a Book in giving observations , and ma- king a confutation of this Pi&ure, and thefe mottoes, but I nmft ftudy brevity, I will only hint a few things. 1. That I have been informed for certain, and it was fpoken of byionie Merchants on the Exchange, that in Holland the Pi- cture of an Independent is drawn, and fee out publlkely, and he is pictured thus, wkb God written in his mouth, the Devill written juft upon his heartland the world written and piftured as he holding ic in his amies* 2. It may be this Picture of a Presbyterian will canfe the Pi- cture of an Independent to be drawn here in London (et one with Mottoes,as alfo what he hath under his feet,&ct and if it prove (o% 'tis but juft, and the Independents may thank themfelves- 3. For the Picture it (elf of a tender Confidence, which they make the Presbyterian lifting up a Dagger to flab ; I am confi- dent the Presbyterians are as truly tender confeienced men as any in England y yea farre above the Sectaries; and for the Sectaries (take them generally^) they are farre from being tender confei- enced men, as I (hall (hew at large in my Treatife sgainft Tole- ration, under that head of anfwering that objection, that tender Confidences tmft be horn with* where I (hall prove by many in- ftances they are men of large consciences , and have confer- ences, like to Oftrichftomacbs, that candigeft iron, can digeft a generall Toleration of all Religions, can bare with them that are evIll5or anything that's wicked, (bit will promote the Catholike caufejand in truth inftead of being a truly confeiencious peopie,and going upon religious principles^ they are a meer politick faftion^ driving on ftrange defigns9 and having erds of their own. 4. Whereas they place the Presbyter in ihemidftof the Pope and Prelat, how might they more truly have placed an Indepen- dent and other Seftaries.the Independents fhaking hands and com- plying more with Papifls and Prelats then Presbyterians, as I could prove oy many inftances of familiar parages and fpeechts that andPraSifes of the Se&aries. 159 that have patTed between Tome Sectaries and Papiftsand Prelats, and fome fpeeches again of Papifts and Prelats of the Indepen- dents, Tome whereof the Reader may find in this Bookjag. 19.1 53; 5. That of the Presbyterian trampling the Crowne un- der his feet, is a moft wicked lye, and confuted in the fighc of theSunneby the experience of thefe times; far who (tend more for the Grown, the Kings perfon and Honor, his juft great- neffe, and his pofterity after him, th.n the Presbyterian party; and who are more againft Monarchy , the Kings perfon and honour then the Independent party ? A Se&ary indeed may well be pictured with the Crown under both his feet, trampling it, and breaking it all to peeces, and together with the Crown trampling che Church, Mtnin1 ery, and the Kingdom of Scotland under their feet 5 and for proof of Sectaries treading the Crown under their feet,witnefle Londonslaft warning, commended, fold, difpefred up and down by Sectaries, witnefie Walwyns an Arch Sectaries fpeechis, with other pafTages of fame of them, as giving over praying for the King above this yeere, laughing at them who ^eCc^'Q^th^ pray for him,as*one of them praying publikly in the Church,that pag.^ th* King might be brought in chains to the Parliament, as fpeaking * M*for Durance - n \ • • • 1 • • 1 • i 1 1 r ^ an Independent againft his coming in or being received m but under the notion Preacher ac ofa Delinquent, and that he deferved to die if any man did, with s*ndwiih- fach like fpeeches. 6. Thar of the Presbyter endeavouring to deftroy the tender Conscience rttigioujly affiUed, only hindred by a great clog hanging upon him,is a wicked fcandaljfor the tendernefle/orbearancejove^ indulgence of the Presbyterians when they were in their higheft power,and the Independents weak and low,is known to al thisKing- domjand had they been fuch men as the Independent Painter would make theoi,the Sectaries had never grown to this boldnes to make ^p? flich a Picture, northefe Kingdoms fo troubled with them as now ^^ they are; but the truth ofic is, a Sectary may well be painted with a daggar thus running at the heart of the Presbyterians tender confeiences religioufly afTe&ed , and had they not clogs upon their arms, wee mould find it fo by lamentable experience 5 rhey have made violent attempts upon Presbyterians, and they have given out many threatning words 5 and certainly defigned and comfortedxhemfelves, that ere long they ftiould be able to crufih. 1 60 A further Vifcevery of the Errourt crufh the Presbyterians 5 for proof whereof , befides inftan* ces already given in this Book/> a Bodies-feller in London (who(e name I conceal upon the en- ans may do well treaty .of him who related it) fpeaking of the Miniftcrs of Sicn that "he seque-ColIedge, (aid cbefe words; Many have gone to Tifarn who bavc ftration of theiF kffe deferved banging tben thofe of Sion CJledge $ and he further inftg « t",1 barnf*, tyoke thefe wordM^ tbe Miniflers were tbe canfe ef all oar trwbks was defignedand a$t& flirs. This relation was given ni-e under the hand of noushfoMhem6," one who was an eare wimefli, and delivered to me in the prefenc© if fome mdepen- 0f two faffjclenc perfbns. A third man who is for thelndc- r1erm!ghdcShave pendents, and that way, came to a perfon of quaiityin the City ha* thehr vte' °^ Londont and taken notice of for a man of a great eftare, and %oiconCc\mclmfbedbwottt of bU refpids to bim9totake beed bow be ingaged or theymuftexptft flowed bimftlf for tbe Presbyterians, and at tin ft tbe Independents* when the Sefta-' . J J J .. / . i > n , S J r r i tf / ries grow Co for were wot no way pr mm to keep hps ejtJte, or to be fecure9 unUfje m iirong a« to hiye mre 0f tyat rfa wich other words to that purpofe. power to effix* if» l J > r r Here followes a Copie of fome Letters with a Narration of fome more remarkable PafiTages concerning the Sectaries. A Copie and Prattifcs of tfa Sectaries. 1 61 A Copy of a Letter wrkten to me from a godly and learned Minifter living at Yarmouth. Worthy Sir, BY * your Letter coming to my hand, I take notice of an In- A Ml™p*^ formation handed to you, wherein I whh there were not fo ^Kfno^0* much truth. For your better fecuricy. I have proenred the Ex- a Mimftei i» aminations out of tht Office, and have tranferibed one of them, Lond. ofahor- whieh here 1 fend you indofed. At our late Seflions, this caufe ri^ blafphemy, was heard. Our Recorder profelTed, that had he had power, he x |m £0 a *£" had a great minde to hang the man fo* his Biafphemies ; but in Town, to cq- conclufior, he was bound over to the next Scffions : Touching form me of the the perfon of this blafphemous wretch, one John Boggis, he was truth of it, an Apprentice to an Apothecary in London, and came down wllick accord- hither with (your good friend) Captain Hobfon, as his Chirur- jj^ hc h3th gion. Soon after his coming into thefe parts he turned Preach- one' er ; and fo in a little time feducing, and being feduced, he came from Antinomianifm and Anabaptifm, to thisdefperate height of Atheifm. Your great Rabbi Oats told me before his face, that Mr. Boggis might oe his Mafter,notwithftanding his youth ; and fabighly extolled him, as if he had been Adam HamagnaUh. One paflage more, I faall acquaint you with. About a yeer fince or fomewhat more, this Boggis with Oats, (then of Norwich) and one Lockier a Ringleader of the Anabaptifts in this Town came tomyhoufe, defiring fome difcour e with me for their pretended fatisfafticn. Providence fo ordered if, that Mr. w. my Fellow Minifter, and one other, werewi-h rne at the pre- fenr. Thus three to three we fell into debate famongft other matters,) about the power of the Magiftrate in intiiftrng capital punifbments,and taking away of life. Hereupon Oats (to whom the reft agreed) peremptorily affirmed, and ftood to maintain, That there was no fuch power in any Chriftian Mag ift rate over *% any Member of a Church , unlefie fir ft he were caft out of the Church, and fo delivered to the Secular power ; no, whatever his offence was, though Murther or Treafon. His Argument was , That all Church Members were the Temple of God, and Vtho fo deftrojetk the Temple, of God , him Y ' fiaS 1 6 1 K^f farther Di [cowry of the Errors Jhall Goddeftroy. Being preffed wirh the Authority of that Texr. He thatfheddfth mans blood, by man foall his blood bejhed • he and the reft cryed out, what had they to do with Mofes ? They were Chrifts IXfaples, not Mofes Difcipies. Being minded of the sntiquuy ot this Law before Mofes his time , they repiyed, it was ail one, b<°ing part of the Old Teftamenr. Withail Oats added, that that Law was fulfilled; demanding of him how he anfwered, in and by Chrift , In as much (faid hej as Chrift [bed his bloody my blood u (bed already ; for (faith he) Chrifts blood is my bioud, and my blood is thrifts blood. At t$e fame time Bogus bdng preffed by my k If in fome particulars, ft. 11 his reply was, / have the Spirit. My felf impatient of his arrogant boafting, told him, Thar cen*in!y if he h*d that Spirit he pre- tended to, he would not fo boali of it : Whereunto (clapping his hind upon his Raft) he repiyed, / thank, God I have enough of the Sprit. Hereupon I having enough of him, told him, that the doors were open for him , and fo parted with him. The Lord direcT, and aflift you in all your undertakings, and make your endeavors fuccefleful. With my prayers and hearty falu. tations, I reft Your aflured Friend, Yarmouth, May 1 1. and Brother in the Lord. A Copy of the Depofition made againft one zfohnBoggiS) for horrid and unheard of Blafphemy. Great Yarmouth,fan.24. 1645. THis Informer faith upon his oath,that fome few dayes fince, one fohn Boggis came to the houfe of this Informers Ma- iler about dinner time, and being requefted to flay at dinner Ihere, he fate down at the Table, and being alfo requefted by his faid Matters Wife to give thanks, he asked to whom he fijould give thanks , Whether to the Butcher , or to the BnUy or to the CoVp , ( there being then a Shoulder of rofted Veal upon the Table). And the faid Informers Matters Wife, faying, that thank* (bottld be given to God; the faid Boggis re- piyed, ani Praclifcs of the S eStarits. 6$ plyed, and faid, Where it jour God, in Heaven, or in Earthy aloft 9rbelgto9 ardothhsG* ^JzZlVoua^ »%£f* d%e lit jit Vtith hit . And further this Informer faith, that at another time The word is the faid Informers Mafters Wife ruv?r,g fpeech with the faid fo horrid and Bo?git about the Church, and concerning the Bible, the faid obfcene, thae X Ihgit wifhed hehaj^i^nom fo much of the Bible , which he ^jj0*2 laia wtu but onelj Taper. # ' The former part of this Information (to And further, &c.) is alfo attefted upon oath in the fame words by the faid In- formers Maucfr f^fc* A true Copy of a Letter fent £*■* 2°™* ^ a worthy Member of the Reverend Ali^Pv' and fubferibed by five hands of perfons of worth, Minifters and others, * Worthj Sir, OUr true refpe&s of you prefixed : We entreat your favor to acquaint us what you think willbctherefultatlaft a- bouc the Independents ; if they muft be tolerated, it is then in vain for us to ftrive againft it by any humane helps, and muft expe&tolive in allconfufion anddiforder, except it be in our Families, and there we fhall hardly avoid it, for there are fome that creep into Houfe?. Wedefire you to take notice, that for three yeers laft paft there hath been fome ci fTerences about than way in Dover \ but of late they are fain in o a Congregational- Church, have made Members, and ordained a Paftor one Mr. Bavies of London, who will fetle here with them : Hereupon they are prefently fo high flown, that they will have our publike meeting place commonly called the Church to pleach a toeefylj Lefture , though we have an Order from the Committee of Parliament, that there flv*l! be none without ihe confent of both the Minifters in Dover, and have acquainted them with it, yet fome have threatned, if the Key he kept away they will break open the doors ; and fince Mr. Davies journey to London, the Members of his Church meeting every Lords-day twice, and once in the week, Mr. Mafcal (a man employed by the State to Y 2 be 1 64 A further Difcovtry of the Errors beaper&flcrsf Lh.C Q^CjtKS/ Undertakes to feed the flock, expounds the Scripture?, and with much vehemency cry e$ out to the people, exprefling himfelf thus agaicft the prefcnt Mini- Nott* . ftery : Tour Priefts, your damned Priefts, your cur fed Priefts, With their fools Coats. Your Levites} who it' they get an Ordi- nal ce of Parliament will thunder it out, out ikCJ* j&alone the Ordinances .of Chrift, and ' .perfwadcs the people of the evil that Synods and Learned men have done to the Church, and therefore preffech them to the ufelcflentffe of hum^° ' and at other times in private meeting „ r a eic?™?*»l they will fill into moft mifer^' fl-- Pc»™f « people that bvterv • and frith that ' navery , if they have a Pres- J y j 1 -' r a ** fbdl (band and laugh at them. Vc hen they are under the t>- f ' r -r l ^ ** ftiff-rthemfr' ■' 0Urtkens- ror our parts, it the State will , \* I .*ves to be fo vilified in what they have by the beft ^ropofed, and will have us troden under foot for foliow- A7 '..ag Chrift, and obeying them, and will have us take Covenanf.% ^ and furler as many as will to violate them , we (lull then think that wc are fain into worfe times then ever we yet faw, We defire you to counfel us, and to improve your power in the AflTembly, and with the Parliament what you may to-'ftop th'efe violent proceedings here, that we may enjoy our priviledges, efpeciajly the peace of our Conferences and Count rey , we reft Your loving Friends. Dover, April 13, This Letter is given into the hands cf > a Peer of this Kingdom, The Copy of a Letter written from a Learned and Godly Divine from beyond the Seas, to a fpecial Friend of his here in London, and translated by him out of Dutch into Englifh, ; WE do earneftiv long for fome Ordinances from Eng- land, for the fuppreffing of the high growing Sefts, ; Hercfies. and Praffifes $f the Sectaries. 1 65 Hereiies, and Schifm?, which get the upperhand ; We^are af- filed in our very fouls, tha: there is fuch a depth of diftracli- ons and Errors, fuch liberty for Schifa), Blafp.heaiy , and ungod- ly Tenents, both at London and in the whole Kingdom. O bk'ffed holy .Holland, righteous Am (I er dam, heretofore account- Note. ed theftnK 6t firivS ?M Herefiesybut now juftified by London. With us are punilhed with banifnuient, or peircing through the Ttyte* tongue with a hot Iroa, thole ffeat buc fhnderoufly fpeak of the Virgin Mary : Here we burn the Books of the Socinians Er- rors, and they may not with knowledge be fold in thefe parts : Here indeed cfery one is left to enjoy the freeaoin .'21 his Con- fcience in his own Family, but to keep Conventicles and meet- ings of divers Families together, Amfierdam it felf will not ftiffer, except in Anabaptifts, Lutherans, and ilemonftrants. At Lcnion is taught Blafphemy againft Chrift, God, his Word, WorOiip:& SacramefrtSjby Emhutkfts,Antinomian$tLibertines, and Seekers ; There the Sccinian tricks are new moulded, there Note* ail Seels and Hereticks may keep there feparated, publike and fecret Conventicles. Whence is it that you are fo fuddenly led away tiriio another Gofpel ? Is there no balm in gilead, that the wounds of the daughter of Sion are not healed ; sire the Prayers of the Saints, and the Labors of the upright all in vain ? Gods judgements hang over that Kingdom, which feeds and fofters fuch fins. A Paflage extra&ed out of a Letter lately lent from a godly Minifter in ColcheHer to a Minifter in London. THe laft Sabbath day we had one Clarion a Seeker that This Ctir\m Preached at Butolph Church, the fame man I beleeve that {\ fP.okeP. of Mr. Edwards mentions in his Book : His Sermon tended to the ]\°Q™ p 7/5. vilifying of the Scriptures, all Ordinances, Duties, Ministers, Churchitate : He vilified the Scriptures, and would not have the people live upon white and black , and that they of them- ft Ives 1 66 A farther Difcdvery oftfa Errors felves were not able to reveal God, of which IfiuIlgiveMr, Et a full account the rtexc week . An Extract of a Letter written from a Mini- fter in New England, to a Mg$& 0't t*ne Affembly of Divines. DIfcipline, or Church Government is now the great bufi- neffe of the Cbr ftian World , God grant we forgec not trie doctrine of B finance from dead Works, and Faich in the Lsrd jefus : t long much to fee, or hear, what i$ done in England about this matter. I fliJl not fall into particulars, as I might do, could we fpeak mouth to mouth. I am no Independ- ent, neither are many others, w,ho fay Commnni Presbyteronum confilio Ecclefi* ab initio rtgebanter ; nor am I of a democrati- cal fpirit ; Much have I feen in my almoft eleven yeers abode Noti* ltt tms WildernefTe ; and I wi& fuch as maintain an Independ- ent Democracy, had feen and found as much experimentally! A houfe like to be well governed, where all are KLfters ; but no more of this. For my felf, God hath been here with me, and done me much good, learning me fomething of hir> feif, of my felf, and of men. Ar. E. is not Heaven, and here we are men ftill. DecemforZ. 1^45. To his loving Brother Mafter Thm*s Edwards. Ir, that Book which difcovereth our general Gangrana, con- 'taineth truth, which will procure you many enemies, its the loJjnxt, 37."; fate of Truth: hut to this end (faith cur Lord) toad J born, and for thu caufe came I in to the toorld, that IJhouldbear ftitnefe to the truth ; and fo for this caufe are ChriHi&ns begotten again bj the Wordof Truth : Every one that is of truth fhouid do io% efpecially s and Praftifes of the Se8 aries. 167 efpecially fuch a$ are his Minifters. %evelajfe will be fuperaffex Iiejoyn with one of your adversaries in chat alleadged Text, cntenf. ftim- Btit thejfhaU proceed no farther ; for their folij fha& be manifeft to tijpmo, all mcn>at theirs alfo Was, 2 Tim^.9. 1 ware for its accomplifli- ment. You, yea we all muft look to fuflfcr for plain dealing, efpecially now when as truth liech in the ftreets and is trampled on by durty feet ; when as there are fo many adverfaries unto it , and fuch an Independent Combination againft it : The great objection againft you is, You are too too vehement in your oppofidon ; which when I heard, I remembred I hid read in Luther de fervo Arbitrio, the fame objected to him by old Eraf- mtu. The anfwer of Luther unto it, me thinks may well be ours, yours, and yeild us much comfort and incouragemenr. Quod autem vehementins Egerim, agntfco culpam fi culpa eft, imo testimonium hoc mihi in mundo reddi in caufa 'Dei mirifice gauieo: Atqueutinkm & ipfe Deus id tefttmonii innovijfimo die iufa fa fo^ confirmaret quit turn keatior Lu:heio , qui tanto ftti feculi tefti- Arb.c.xoj, moniocomendatur, qttodveritatU caufam nonfegniter nee fraudu- p- |i£. tenter fed vehement erf atii) vel potius nimio egerit f Turn Mud Jeremse faliciter Evaferim, malediBm qui facit opus Dei neg- ligenter. So Luther ; and fo may you in my judgement. As for Cretenfis ( fo one of your adverfaries ftileth his Book) 1 finde him (till a confident man, his Challenge of all the Presbyterians one after another, affembled or not affembled in England, Scotland, France^ and Ireland, in that Queftion of the imputation of Faith in a proper fenfe, &c. (hewech fo much, and aHbthar, that he may doit as well as you did An- tapol.p.nj. To whom you rmy fay from me, He cannot fo well do it as you, becaufe that as y et we fee none hath accepted your challenge, where as the ftrength of him is tryed fin what he did againft Matter Walker, and his other two Treaties of thatfub- jed ) and is found weakneff ; fo that until he vindicate himfelf, we have but the words militis gloriofi, the vent of fpleen againft Presbyterians and the AflVmbly , fay, I could tell him Presby- terians and Independents afTcmbied, have weighed that contro- verfie, and fourd his oppefirion therein too too light. Tell him that (though the fervant is nor greater then his Mafter, nor the authority of the Clark eciuat to that of the Juftice of Peace j and chat I £8 A further Vifcovery of the Errtrf that when Mr. Gatta^er fpeakech, Matter Rohrettgh may hold his peace, as he fpcaketh,p*g.26*. fret.) Matter Robrongh may fay fo much uno him in behalf of fomeof thofe he thws challenged, and tell him that he do no more wkk challenges, trouble thofe Matters, being in ierious employments. It fnfificeth a fervant hath routed his force?, and is in a readinefle (with Gods help) if Mr. John Goo&tiin can but recrute,to meet him in that contro- verfie in whatfoever field. BleiTed be God, he is much more in- abled and imboldned to that by his attendance; fofar is he from being afhamed of that which he objeð as a jeer : he is ft rong at that fas in his Recipe to Matter Walker , and that whole Book) the blood that runneth in that vein (as I have heard) coft him nought, he received it by tradition, he is not as yet redeemed from it ; will him as a grave and learned Divine to anfwer Mr. "Robroughs Animadversions, and after that propofe his vain- glorious challenge unto Presbyterians; they and Independents will furely anfwer him, if between him and me there be indeed found on my part impar congrejfw. That charge of yours (Gangr. /.70. that Faith in a proper fenfe,is imputed to justification, and not Chrifts righteoufneffc) is owned (I fee) ftill by him. Onely he faith, that you falfly and forgingly reprefent the opinion, becaufe you father on it that snungrel expreflion ( as he calleth it ) 7* credere , an ex- preffion ad invidiam comparata. It may be faid its ufually fo ex- preffed by fuch as handle that controverfie. Matter Wootton ab- horred it nor. Fidem autemcunf dicimut ipfum credere, 7* wst'tt- wv fignificamus, de ReconciLpar.i. L f,c. I$.p* 17 5. and agam p. 176. for what he mentioneth elfe to that further, he may do wtll to take notice that he is examined, as in all that he hath written. The other Charge (pag. 23. about quoting *Bucer and Calvin againft their judgement)' in my opinion it is very juft. Let Mr. tTalkersV>Qok and mine be but confulred, it is made evident in theirs, and others teftimonies quoted by him : when as Bucer faith, Faith is imputed to righteoufneffe, and fo Calvin , they take it not in a proper fenfe but figurative, or relative to the ob- ViLmhtAM- }&, which Sibrandpu zgzmik Bertins, (hewethto bethejudge- mJ. verf. 1. ment of all Proteftant Divines,aad challengeth him to (hew one f&rt.pt%. 9. mart and FraBices of the Se&artef. 169 man, or one place to the contrary. For Bucer, Mafter Wotton fheweth his opinion in thefe words, Quia bacfide apprehendimus juflitiam perfetlam Chrifli ; ideo Apoftolm dixit, credent* in eum qui juftificat impium, fdem ejus reputari in juftitiam : fdcm.fcil. apprthendentem juftitiam Qhrifti, id eft, ipfam (fhrisli juftitiam : VVott.de ReconciL part. 2. lib. 1. cap. 14.pag.170. and therefore faith of Bucer, Quern ego de imputatione cpinionis author ern fuijfe mihi perfuadeo. Hee might have read it cited in mine Animad- verf.part.i. pag. 15 c. And as for Mafter (falvin, the very pla- ces whence hee quoteth him exprefle fo much. Let him perufe what is extracted from him in mine Anlmadverftons, pag. 1 34,1 35, 136, cj» p. 162,161. ( •As for that opinion pf Galvms, That fuftijication confifteth in remifflon of {ins, tell him hee needed not to call in witneites, it is confeft: The queftion is about the word onely ; neither is that word denyed to be in Calvin : but the queftion is, whether oncly exdudeth in his fcnfe imputation of Chrifts right coufne He (the tenet of Proteftants ;) or that of inherent rightcoufnefle (the do- ctrine of Papifts :) I deny the former, and aflert onely the later againft the Papifts • and I appeale tohiswitneflcs, let them give their verdict. Yet tell him, that in my Animadverjions, in anfwer to this very head, hee may read it determined by many witneflcs againft him ; by Bellarmine, his adverfary, and accufcr of Calvin (as he is for this,) by his own witnefle, Parens, by Doctor Down- bam, Dr.Davenant, and JV^^3thoughhe will not fee it : part.i* pag. 76,77,78,79. Yea, when as in his book he mentioneth thefe two witneflcs- (as hee here doth) hee may finde them anfwered out of the fame Authors, where Mafter Cjatakers judgement may be alfo feen of that thing, Whether Justification confifts in remifiion of finnes. Surely, had hee thought of thefe anfvvers given him againft his opinions, for mine, that they are to be feen in the world, hee would never have made fo loud a challenge, neither yet have fpent time in repetition of thefe teftimonies ; for the determining of which between us, I appeale to ail the world, and am ready (when-ever hee pleafeth, to contend for this with him, or any part of the Controverfie, in writing, or vi- va voce. Sir, I thought good to write fo much to you in defence of Z Truth, 170 A further Difcovery of the Errours Truth, and fomewhat in reference to my defpifed Telfe : Its now yours, doe with it as your felfe fhall pleafe. The Lord make us valiant for Truth; for this I know,. I have abettors enough, fuch as himfelfe doth otherwife highly honour. But fervice calieth for mine hand elfewhere, which I muft obey ? and therefore wkh prayer to God for his bleflingon you, and all your Labours in his caufe, Hee taketh leave of you for this time, who is Your loving friend and Brother April 23.. iti$6l in every caufe of Chriffi,. HE N K Y R O BR OUG H. A Co pie of a Letter lately written to me from & godly hdini~ fier in the Weft of England. Worthy Sir, TI 1 Horn (though unknown to me by fight) I love and honor VV for your love to truth, and for yourzeale againft the fpreading infectious Errours of thefe times, wherein we once ho- ped for better things.I wrote toMafterf.of fome difcoveries that were made tome by fome reclaimed from Anabaptifme,concern- ing the workings of Satan to and in that way , being much affected with the relations they firft. gave me by word of mouth : I defired them to commit their experiences to paper while the remem- brance of them was frefh with them , that they might be able hereafter as well as at prefent, to tell what the Lord had done for their fouls , in breaking fuch a dangerous fnare as Satan with fo much art and fubtilty had laid for them ; This up- on perfwafion they did ,. and at laft gave me in about two iheets of paper clofe written, wherein they difcover not on- ly how the fnare was laid for them , and how they were firft caught and entangled with a liking of the novelty of Ana- baptifme, but being caught, how they were carried on to it with the ftrongef! violence and impulfe of fpirit that is imaginable: they alfo difcover the fad effects and influence which that way - — ■ ~ had. and Praftices of the SeUarks. 171 had upon their fpirits while they lay but under a liking and good opinion of it, and how it pleafed the Lord torefeue and bring them off, before they were actually engaged and duckt into that feduced fociety. Sir, all thefe things were fo fully7 and largely exprefTed in the manufcript I had from them, that others as well as my felf held them very fit to be published for the publike good; and fuppofing they fhould be, I was preparing fome considerati- ons upon the pafiages to come forth with them. Since their com- ing of the Anabapcifts, they have found their fpirits in a much better frame then before, and out of picie to others engaged in that way, have endeavoured to reclaim them. And now Sir, for my own part I muft needs fay, it is much that I have differed from Opinioniils of all forts in thefe times, and mecriv becaufe I could not befalfe to my Covenant (nor I truft never fnall) by a finflill ft lence , when Herefie and Schifme do lift up themfelves againfi: truth and unity. I praife the Lord this happinefle I have, though the unkind dealing of thefe men hath tbmetimes occafioned much greif of heart, and weaknede of body to me, yet they have not prevailed in the leaft wife to weaken my refolutions in contending forthetruth;yea the more the truth is oppoled, the more earneft- ly I hope I iliall contend for it, though it be to the titter exhauft- ingof that fmall ftrength of body which I have : I cannot facri- fice my felf in a better way. I know 'tis not neceflary that Ifhould live, but necefiary tis that truth ihould live and be maintained to the utmoft of our power. Me thought it was fome what harfh to me at firft (till God accuftomed me totheyoak) toilifFer frowns, reproaches, imprecation?,and all manner of hard fpeech- es for the difcharging of my confcience, and that from thofe whofe profeued principle it is that all ihouldhave the liberty of their confciences : It feems they would take liberty, but will not give it. If m y confcience bids me to oppofe fome of their tenets and practices, and I can have no peace in my confcience without fo doing, how can they in reafon deny me this liberty by their own principle? Surely it would be a fad clay to all Orthodox Chriit> «£| itians if they (hould be brought to ftand to the mere*/ of the Se- ctaries liberty. Some of them have partly well ufed their liberty againft me in fpeaking, writing, printing againfi me, in the moll: iairrilous^rancorous, injurious manner that could be, and only for Z 2 preaching ■ij2 ^ Afurther Discovery of the Errours preaching that, which if I had not, my confcience I fear would have preached againft me while I had lived, for holding the truth in tinrighteoufnevTe. Sir, I will not hold you with particulars* this place hath been a troublefome place to me, for which I know whom I have to thank. I wifh it may be quieter to the next Mini- ster that fucceeds me, for God is pleafed by a clear providence, to open me a way to fome other place. Sir, being lately at Dor- chcfier, the Town I heard was fomewhat difturbed the week be- fore by a wandring Seclary, who had gathered a company about him, and preached in the Shire Hall (as I think they call it) chufing that of the Apoftle for his text, But we have the mind of Chrift* Afterwards, through too much pride, and too little wit, the poor fellow was fo ill advifed as to challenge Matter Ben to a publike difpute Qmpar congre^m zAchilli) offering to make good the lawiiilnefle of private mens preaching, which challenge was ac- cepted, but how the opinionift was foiled by that worthy Minifter (I tter to grapple with that punies Inftrud:ors)was eafily perceived by all understanding hearers. The godly people of thofe parts have been fo well catechifed and grounded heretofore, that the opinionifts complain they can make no work with them. Cer- tainly the good old Engliili Puritan (which Matter geere doth fo well characterize) is the Novellifts greateft enemie, or rather the grj* Novellift his. Alas, how fad is the deftiny of Orthodox Chrifti- ans, that no times will favour them ? We have not yet loft the fenfe of what we fuftered heretofore by thofe wicked Prelats, whom God hath therefore caft out as an abominable Branch; and furely if all the Orthodox in the Land fhouid bring in their feve- g-p rail complaints of what they have fuffered fince by turbulentOpini- onifts,it would fil the world with wonder,and the ReformedChur- ches abroad who cannot but fympathize with us, with much heavi- nefl'e of fpirit in our behalf. Heretofore it was counted a crime to preach againft prophaneiie, as fporting on the Lords day,and the like ; and now as great a crime to preach againft Herefies. Only let me acquaint you with one thing I have obferved, This vaine of perfecution for the moft part runs along in the fame perfons; they who moft countenanced prophanefl'e and fuperftition heretofore againft Orthodox Minifters, are the fame men who under a form *f godljneffe, without thepowery do now countenance Herefie an.d andPraftices of theSe&arier. 173 and Schifm againft it ; but Sir, let nothing difcourage. It is given to us., not only to beleeve,but to fuffer; but he that ft all come Will come, and will not tarry, and in mean while it is enough for us that Chrift reigns. May 11. 1646. T There is a young man who lives in London, and not farre off the Exchange, who went not long (ince to Lams meeting- placebo fee and hear what they did there; and when he was come, found many of them reafoning and conferring about ftrange o- pinions : and among the reft, there was one Sectarie who main- ^ tained and affirmed that he was Jefus Chrift. At which this young man was fo offended and troubled in his fpirit, that hee (upon the place, and to his face) fpake much againft him for his Blaf- phemie : this fellow ftill maintained it ftifiy, and told this young man hee would poure out his judgements on him, and damne hurt for oppofing and fpeaking thus againft him. This young man was fo affected with it, that when hee came home hee told it his Father and other friends : and being asked by fome, whether hee thought the man was in his wits or no, this young man replyed, Yes fure, for he fpake fenfibly, and to the things that were fpokeir of, though in this blafphemous abominable way. Many Sectaries have difturbed godly confeientious Minifters in the Pulpits, ftanding up in the very face of the Congregation, and fpeaking to them, giving them the lie, charging them with falfe Doctrine, calling them Antichriftian Minifters, and fuch like : Of fome of thefe I have given inftances in my late Book,/?^.io2, 103,140. And to add a few more, Mafter^fWr^j of Welling- borough had the lie given him whilefthe was preaching ; and ma- ny Minifters have been put by preaching, and kept out of their own Pulpits by force of arms , Captains and Troopers coming- up into the Minifters Pulpits with their fwords by their {ides, and againft the mind of Minifters and peopLe : Thus 'Paul Hob/on hath* done in Northampton!]!. Buckinghamshire ,and thus at Ravenfden^ in Bedfordshire a fouldier went up againft the mind of the Mini- fter;and here inLondon,the face of the Kingdom,at Chrift-Church1 thexe have been many affronts offered^ jearing and fcoifing in the: midft 1 74 A further Dtfccvery of the Errours midft of the Sermons, fpeaking loud againft things delivered, to the difturbance of thofe who have fate neer : and now lately at Chrift-Church, on Tuefday the 2c. of April, juft upon concluding my Sermon, and goingto my laft prayer, up (lands one Colo- nel! Washington of Hartfordfhire, (fo his name and place is rela- ted to be) and fpake openly againft what I had preached, that I had not rightly given the ienfe of that parable of the tares, and that I was a falfe Prophet, or Beware of falfe Prophets. Now if the Sectaries will doe thus to the Presbyterians whileft they are in their minority, and underlings, what will they doe when they come to be in their kingdome, to be increafed in number and power above the Presbyterians ? But now on the other hand, let Independents and Sectaries give any one inftance that the Presbyterians, when they have come to hear them preach,(though they have preached their erroneous opinions, and for libertieof conference, and againft Presbyterians, and ail this in the Presby- terians Pulpits and Churches) that ever the Presbyterians have ftood up and made difturbance in the publick Ailemblies, or carried themfelves uncivilly and fcoffingly in Sermon time to- wards them. There is one gorton, who was a great Seclarie in New-Eng- land, holding many defperate opinions there ; acopie of which, given by Mr. Williams of New-England (that writ the Book cal'd The blond] Tenet) unto a Reverend Minifter now at London, I have feen and perufed. Now this Gorton with others being bani- fhed out of the Patent of the Bay, and when they were gone, holding and venting ftrange and horrid opinions, whereby they highly difhonoured God, and did hurt and mifchiefe to fome of the people in the Patent, and under the New-England Govern- ment ; the Governour and Magiftrates fent a company by force of arms (though they were in a place, as 'tis thought, out of their Plantation and Patent) to bring them to Bofton; who accor- dingly, being too ftrong for gorton and his tompany ; brought them to Bofton : and when the Governours had them in their hands, the Court fate upon them what to doe with them ; and there were fome motions and confultations (as I and other Mi- nifters have been informed by fome that are come from New-En- gland) about putting them to death, or what other puniihments to andPra&icet of the Sharks. 175 to be inflicted on them for their blafphemous opinions. But how gorton efcaped,whether becaufe the place they fetched him and the reft from was not in theirPatent,or what other reafon,Iknow not; onelv this I am atfured of from divers hands,that Gorton is here in London, and hath been for the fpace of fome moneths ; and I am told alfo, that hee vents his opinions, and exercifes in fome of the meetings of the Sectaries, >as that hee hath exercifed lately at Lams Church, and is very great atone Sifter 5Y^.r, exercifing there too fometimes. There is one John Durance ;an Independent, whom I (mention- ed a little before) who preaches a Lecture on the week day at Sandwich in Kent, and hath a Lecture at Canterbury too, and would have had a Lecture alfo at Dover for the farther fpread- ing of Independency : but by the godly Minifters of Dover oppo- ling it, and writing up to London againft him, fuch means were ufed,as he was put by,and kept from coming thither: Now among many other of his pranks, the Reader may take notice of thefe ; He hath at Sandwich in the Church publickly prayed to God two Agodly Miniftrr or three feverall times, that the King might be brought up in dcp^u^avf, chains to the Parliament : upon which prayer one or two of Sand- and Co win many* wichwent to Mafter Durance, to know what his meaning was ™re wfaoheiU:di in that prayenupon putting the queftion,Mr.i)^oW.f,an Indepen- dent Minifter in the fame Towne, and his great friend,(but more politick) being with him, anfwered, Mr. Durance meaning was that the King might be brought in chains of gold ; whereupon Mafter Durance replyed, that was none of his meaning ; but hee meant, hee might be brought in chains of iron. In a Sermon one time this Durance told the people hee was forry hee had fpent fo much time, or loft fo much time in reading or turning over the Fathers: and yet bee faid hee honoured the Fathers as much as any man. This man after his preaching at Canterbury, hath the ufeof a great room neer the Cathedral^ where manyrefortto him ; and hee takes occaiion to build them up in Independency,. Not long fince Mr. Durance, on his Lecture-day, juft before the laft day of publick Thankfgiving in the Countrey, preaching in one of the Churches in Sandwich, told the people hee would fi- nifh the Text he was then preaching upon on the Thankfgiving day, and that in the afternoon^ in a private houfe;wherupon?when he 176 A further Discovery of the Errourt he had done, Mr. Sbermod, a godly Minifter in whofe Church he preached, turned himfelf to the Congregation, faying, Mafter Dtt- ' ranee, you fhail not need to do lb, you fhall have the liberty of my Pulpit, I here offer it you ; and if you may have liberty ofthe pubiick Church, I hope you will not goe into corners. Whereim- to Mr. durance pubiickly replyed, hee would not preach in the Church .but was refoived of his way; and accordingly in the after- noon, when the people went to the pubiick exercifes to Church, Mafter T)ura>ice went to a private houfe , and two or three hundred people after him to heare him preach in private. I have many other remarkable ftories and pafl'ages of the Sectaries proved by witnefies, by Letters under their hands and the notorictie of the things themfeives , of their horrible unclean- nefles, forfaking their husbands andwiTes, fearfull defrauding?, and locking by defperate wayes to cozen and deceive ; as alfo of their ftrange conceits , That there is a prophet ariien , who is fhut up foretime, but at the end of this Summer is to come forth with power to preach the generall Reftauration of all things 3 which prophet hath given a roll forth already into fome hands, in which roll many things are written,and who-ever hath that roll hath the fpirit of prophecie : Hee hath appointed fome to be publishers and prophets, and to goetojerufalem to build it up, where Abraham, Ifaac, and Jacob {hall meet them from heaven ; and thefe perfons thus fent unto Jerufalem are aflured they (hall never die, with many other of this kind. But I will referve thefe to make another book of, and come to give the Reader fome Co- rallaries drawn from the whole matter. Certain and PraSicet of the Se&arkr. 177 Certain CorallariesandCoiifechries drawn from the Errours, Hercfies^ 8iafphemies5Praftices3 and Stones of tfee Se£hries laid q8w$ in this prefent Booke, C 0 RALL. I. Ence then from all thefe Errours, Berefres, Blaf- phemies, Pra&ices, &c. laid down both in the rirft andfecond part of Gmgrxna, wee may fee how farre the Sectaries of our times have pro- ceeded , and how high they have rifen : In a word, to fummeup in one page what more at large is expreffed in many fheets, the Sectaries are gone very farre, both in damnable doctrines and wicked practices, in hol- ding principles afcfci portions deftructive to Church and State, a- gainft ail Government, both Civill as well as Ecclefiafticall, and that not onely for the matter, but in the manner and way of pro- pagation and managing of them : They have queftioned and de- nyed all the Articles of faith, and have juftified and pleaded for all kinde of errours and abominations : They have denyed the Scriptures, Trinity, the Godhead of the Sonne, and Holy GhofL Juftihcation by Chrift, the Gofpel, Law, holy duties, Church, Mi- nillry, Sacraments, and all Ordinances : They hold there are no* Divels, no fin, no hell, no heaven, no refurredtion, no immorta- lity of the foule : And together with thefe, they are againft all kingly Government, the King, Lords, theHoufe of Commons as to have any thing to doe in matters of Religion, or in Civiif matters any longe.r then the people who chofe them think fit, and to be chofen yeerly, or oftner, according as they carry them- fclves ; yea, againft all kinde of civill Government and Magiftra- A a ticaU 1^8 AfurtherDifcoveryofthe Errours ticall power whatfoever, as appears by denying the power of imposition of taxes and afleflements, in denying the power of Magiftrates over Church-members in cafes of murther, treafon, &c. And as they have denyed all thefe, fo on the contrary they have maintained and pleaded for allkindeof blafphemous and hereticall opinions, and loofe ungodly practices ; yea, they have publickiy in print juftified there fhould be an open Toleration for all thefe : and if any man fhould fo far degenerate, as. to beleeve * -pampbi miu there is no * God ; nay, come to blafpheme God and the Scrip- Tokiat-jiiftiied, tures? yet he fhould not be troubled nor molefted, but enjoy the liberty of his confcience : And they have not only pleaded thus* but fume of them have actually blafphemed God,Chri{t,.the Spi- rit, the Scriptures, Minifters,Sacraments,and all holy Ordinances ; befides committing of horrible unckannerTes, forfaking of huf- bands and wives as Antichriftian, being guilty of thefts, defraud- ings,&c.being partakers alio of the horrid Rebellion of Ireland,in SsVoiil 2?M°r! ji-'ftifying the Rebels, that they did no more then what we would miwjm fyeesh. have done our felves,&c. All thefe with many others,as the plead- ing for Stage-play es to be fet up again, fome or other of the Se- ctaries have been guilty of ; and unto all thefe have added this moreover, to canonize and cry up for faints, faithfull fervants of God,&c. Antifcripturifts,Antitrinitarians,Arians, Perfe&ifts, yea, Blafphemers and Atheifts, fo they be but for Independency, and againft Presbytery : and particularly, how is BaulBefl, that fear- full blafphemer, now he is in queftion by the Houfe of Commons, pleaded for by many Sectaries of our times, and bitter fpeeches fpoken againft the Houfe of Commons for medling with liuhcu^&zt ninl ? Yea> anc* in * Print t0° nee is P^aded for, and compared vkc to the Af- in a fort with Vml the Apoftie* Certainly, neither we, nor our fTauiyBej}lccmt our Fathers before us ever heard or faw fuch evils of blafphemie, r.uc in his opin . hereiie, &c. in this Kinadome, as wee have done within this twa Sougfi^ or three laft yeers : Theworft of the Bifoops and their Chap- jpance , whether lains, when they were at worft, were Saints in comparifon of ma- SltoSd^fytt nY of tne Sectaries of our times, and would have abhorred (as have mercy en bad as they were) fuch opinions and practices which fome of the hisn as bee hid ..... . . , , ,. , on Paul "^he Apoftie, and in his due time bring him to 'he Knowledge of the truth, as hee did the Apo» itle Paul .? Whether it can be ckm on ft rated befoie-hsndj but that paul$ejl (what-ever his herdie be) may poilibly in Gods fectet will be owUiued to coaverfoo hereatter as well as Paul the £poftle whjleft hee was afilai^bcmer I Sectaries and Pr&8ifes of the SeBatks. 179 Sectaries magnific, cry up, and pretend to doe by vertue of new light, the Spirit, and as a matter of great perfection, as for in- ftance, A mans or womans forfaking their owne husbands and wives, and taking others at their pleafure, out of pretence of ca- lling orfAntichriftian yokes, the pleading for a generall Tole- ration of all Religions , yea Blafphemies and denying a Deity out of pretence of libertie of Confcience. But what fpeak I of the Bifhops and their Chaplains ? I am perfwaded all the ftories and relations of the Anabaptifts and Schwenkfeldians in Luther $ time, of the * Popes and Papifts blafphemies, of many Heathens * Salens ™tH*: .. Or where is there a blafphemie to be found beyond that fpoken vTuitrtlll uf& of in pag. 116. of this Book ? In a word, to conclude this firft a^c propter unum Corallary, The Sectaries of our times have in many refpects (as f/S^lSif? in regard of breach of Covenant,ingratitude, falfeneil'Cj&c.) gone "£"! e* v*rA~ beyond the Sectaries of other ages and kingdomes, and done clltmlhl^Tfum worfe then their fathers, juftifying them in all their abominations fi* ^ahH*>ir*- which they committed; and have vented and fpread fo many ««H«*«$S» poyfonous and dangerous principles and pofitions, as are enough ZZZifij™ to corrupt and infect all the Chriftian world, if the Lord in mer- cie do not prevent it. Co rail. II. HEnce then from all that I have laid down of the Sectaries of our times, of their errours, herefies , blafphemies, ftrange pradices, and their wayes of managing them, wee may learn what is like to become of them and their way, and what their end will be; namely, confufion, defoiation, and being brought to nought fuddenly as in a moment;, and if ever God fpake% mee, I am confident hee will curfe this faction of Sectaries in England, and caft them out as an abominable branch : Mee thinks I fee their day a coming and drawing neer ; Hereticks and Schif- fthfa*&** *» mackks do not ufe to be long-lived : no herefie (as Luther fpeaks) fZuX£$9 m. A a 2 ufes *"■***• 1 8 o A further 'Discovery of the Err curs ufes to overcome at the laft. What's become of the Arians, Donatifts, Novatians, Pelagians, &c. ? though they were like a mighty jfioud overrunning and drowning all for a time, yet like a floud they were quickly dryed up; andfo will the Sects now : and wee may expect it fo much the fooner, becaufe the vifible fym- ptomes and forerunners of destruction are upon them. And therefore I fell now toil the great Bell for the Sectaries, the Anabaptifb, Antinomians, Independents, Seekers, &c. and hope fhortly to ring it out, and to preach their funerall Sermon, or rather to keep a day of pubiick Thankfgiving and rejoycing for the bringing down of the Sectaries, andthe breaking up' of their Conventicles, as well as for the downfall of the Popilh and Pre- Iaticall partie. And that they fhall fliortly fall and be dryed up as a iioud j ' and though they have been in great power,and fpread- ing themfclves like a green Bay tree, yet that they fhall parte a- way and not be ; that they fball be fought for, and not found, I ilia 11 give thefe fymptonres : i j. Their horrible pride, infolency, and arrogancy, extolling thcmfelyes and their partie to the heavens,, with the fcorning, vilifying, trampling upon, and defpifingof all" others; and that in fu'ch unparalleird wayes,as linage can fliew the like ; and that not onely agamft particular perfons of all ranks, Nobles, Gen- : .7, Ministers J( but great Bodies and Societies, as; the Parliament *>f England', the Kingdom c of Scotknd,; the; Gornrrw>ja Coun- cil! of the Citie of London, Ailembly,. &c. . TheLuciferijmpride5 high fpirit, and haughtinefle of the Sectaries of all forts,, in all places and buiinefies, and towards all perfons they have to doe *"&;& csmvr- with, in their writings, fpeeches, gestures, actions, is feenand iniocitmqnamcb- fp0^en 0f throughout vthe Kingdorrre , and breaks out daily in 7*™, «<*, quije their impatiencie of being contradicted , or having jmy,. thing *$?"»'] de?a°' faid against their way: in\heir endeavouring xot break arsdcruib zrt, & dec* faros, b J i . . . » tu'tmfi venue™- all that will not dance after therr pipe ; in their not caring to tndeZffi'po. hazzard and ruine all Religion, both Kingdomes, but they will TerL™ 'jlintn '; have their wiis ] and fo in many other things. ., Now God allures ffaneV/iiIhaVe ^ *n tne Scripture that * Pride goes before deftrttttion, and an hauqhty fpirit before a fall : that A mans pride fhall bringhim loft \ PflvtjMf. that When pride cometh, theyi cometh fbame : and God threatens jf'0.',1 V.2* ^y his Prophets, hee will caufi the arrogancy of the fraud to wafe, 1lia.13.il and Fra&kes of the SeS an>s. 1 8 1 and will la) hn> 'the h aught imp of tketj>rribk>zi\& indeed pride har- dens mens heart?, and when their -hearts are lifted up, andthei* Dan'5.-0, minds hardned in pride, then God throws them down. 2. The Sectaries in promoting of their waye9 and canfe are grown extreme violent, defpsrate, and unreafonable knowing no rules of moderation nor forbearance; they go violent waves, and like 7^,^nve furioufly 5 they do thofe things daily which wife, ftaid confiderate.men would never have done, nor any but mad men ; and \\ hich any man who hath his eyes in his head may f.e mai* needs, deftroy them : God hath hid wifdem^ from them, andbefg&led them, leaving them to do many things againft fenfe and reafam God hath left them, yea given them up to shoie courfes ana* wayes (of which I cquM give divers infrances) which no wife men would ever have taken, and which makes rhem abhorred of all good and moderate me^ Now. the befooling of nun, hiding wifejome from iheni , leaving thernta rafhnefle ar4 violence, are prefages of rulne, according to that faying, gyos Deaf vah psrdere bos dement at and according to that o#tbe PtoipheCyl.&ilhide rvifdom pom thsm : NitUam vhhuitm eftpetytnefir, m feen m daily experi- en :e,and we may remember ilrat the violence and fury of the Pre- latical party did nndoe them ; and according to all humane reafbn, Without that, it bad been impofUble to have caftrhem out, being fo deeply rooted in the hv.es and cuftomes of :th?s Kirxgdorne 5 and therefore the Se&affcf before they arexootbd and ieiled, be- ing fo -violent, furious, and daring farre abovdche Biihops , what canweexpeft but thefoipeedy dow stall ? -grvcthem but rope & nough and they will hang tjiernlelves 5 &b/ey mime ib raft, and ride fo fiercely thai (hey canfiQt but fai arid' break JDheitneck^they drive fo furioufly ai>d madly^kat ihey carmoebmfavenhTow alL 3*The great profperit^f rang fucce&, and marvajiaus.prcvaiiing of ihe?Sv£lar:ies in thehhW^yeSxandcipirjicns, their devices and de* fignesfor the me; ft part raking effect arid fucceeding, foas they are nvghsiiy kjfreaiedy mmy fallen u.*ito them, and every wind, alnioftjjfa^ >§#§gith?f4$ whereas'on tfcs other hand the Presbyte- rian party, b:ah our Brethren or Scotland, and the godly MinHrers and people in Evgl+J have been forelyaffMed, much crofied and troubled to fee things as they are^The&w have been.forely viiited with Sword, PeBiJenceinchefc^nvaUnd, ©bftru&fed , reproach- ed, 182 A further Difcovery of the Errours ed, evill intreated by many in this Land : the Aflembly, the godly Minifters and people of the Kingdom, defpifed/corned and abufed (everall wayes, yea, deferred, and looked upon with an evill eye, as if the troublers of lfraely and worfe then Malignants, io that they have been forced many a time to cry out to God,, hear O our God for we are reproached; Now great profperity,fucce(Ie in a bad way,and in the ufe of bad means,as lyes,(candalous reports, under- minings, plottings, falfe-dealings, 8cc. is a great Sympcome oi deftru&ion both to particular perfons., and to a party: whom God intends certainly to deftroy , he fattens before , and lets them be very happy, thereby to prepare them for the day of (laughter : whom he means to do good unto in the latter end and deliver, he affli&s and laies them lowe before, laies the foundation deep that he may build high, and for this let the Reader con fulc with thefe four places of Scripture, Jcr. 12. i, 2, 3, TfuL 37.7. and 10. 35, 36. Pfkl.75.3Afi* and 18,1 9,2 o. Pjfo/,92.7. thefumof all which places is to teach us, that the more men profper in a bad way, and flaurim more then ordinary, having what their heart can wifh, bringing all their devices to pafie, the more4iire they are of being puldoutas fheep for the (laughter, and prepared for the day of (laughter, and that within a litde while they (hall not be, nor their place found, but brought to deflation as in a moment, and utter- ly cortfumed ; and then when they are at their height of flourifh- ing, then is it that they (hall be deftroyed for ever 5 great profpe- ricyis but a lightning before death, and as a great calm which pre(agesthe more dreadfuli ftorm and tempeh> 4. The great plotting of the Sectaries, laying their couniels deep, contriving and working continually night and day by all kind of wayesand means, and all kind of inftruments to efTec* their Work, and to carry on their way ; I do not think this many hundred yeers there hath been a more cunning, plotting, under- mining generation in the Church of God then our Seftaries, or more plots and devices of all forts on foot, more irorfsinthe fire within Co few yeers,- as hath been, and is among them: ther's nothing they do but they have a defigne in it, thej conceive many plots at once to effeft it, they have plot upon plot, and lay ftare upon inare : Machiavell and the Jemits arebutpunies and frefti men to them : I am confident they had fo laid their plots, cut out And Praffifetof the Seftarie*. 183 out their way 5 removed the rubs, prepared all things, fo as that they had fee their time, by which they mould effect their ends,, and fpeak out what they would have: Now God delights to bring to naught plots, todifappoint the devices of mens hearts* to blaft and blow upon tricks and under-board workings,to take the wife in their own craftinefle, and wherein men deaie proud- ly to be above them : the ripening, growing big of plots, is com* monly the forerunner of the downfall of the plotters, and the mi£ carriage of their plots, for the further clearing of which the Rea- der (hill do well to confider what Godipeaksin Job 5. 12513,14. Vfih 37. 1 2, 13. Ip. 29. I5> 16. lfa. 30. r3 2. and indeed God isfuchan enemy to plots, devices, tricks, that he will erode and difappoint his own children in their workings, de vifings, and con- trivances even for good> when they are coo plotting, anxious, or delight and pleafe themfelves coo much in them 5 and this he does often, left chey mould attribute the events of things to their coun- fell, care, &c. and that the work may appear to be of himtelf, and not of men, that God maybe known to be Dew aUlvus & non fajjivuti as Luther expreffes it upon a like occafion, and that God does not ufe to call Mirtln Dtthsr or any of bis Saints to be his counfellor, but that he does all thing6 according to his own coun- fell; hence we are commanded to be careful! for nothing, or thoughifull, but in everything by prayer and fupplication with thankfgiving, let our requefts be made known to God : Now if God will go quite crorfe and contrary to the coun/Hs, workings of his ftrvants for the maintaining his Church and truth, and bring about all quite another way, then he will much more carry the counfeis of the f reward headlong, and make them meet with darknefleintheday time, and grope in the noon/©--;', as in the night. ^,Sjmpt. of the certain d* > 'u£tion of the Sectaries is this, That Independencie and Se&ariim in Englmd 'is a meer Fattian, a partie grown to this height upon particular interefts, nouri&ed and fa- voured all upon politick grounds and ends : Independencie now is no religious confctcntiousbufinefle, but a politick State Fa&i- on,fevering and dividing it felf uponother private interefts from the publike intereft of this Church and State, and the intereO: of both Kingdoms united by Covenant :, In a word 'tis juft fuch anotjies A further DlftVvejfof fkRrrvvrs Amapo!.^{,i8a another Faction as the Armintans was in the Netherlands. I be- ieevethat feven or eight' yeers a'goe Independence and the Church way had fomewhat or Religion and confeience in it , many then falling to it much upon thofe grounds (though even then there were other ends in it alfo, as I have fhowen in my Antapolor'tev) But nowfince the time of troubles and differences betwixt King and Parliament, thefe four yeers laft paft, wherein men have feen fome probabilitie and polrtbmty^in thefe times of warre and ottP fettlement of things, tO bring about and b&ecl: thofe things they could not hope for before, 'it hathbt£n^lid^(matter of faction, particular aims and ends, and not ^f coriftienfe andpietie, as all wife men may fee, and is Apparent by thefe particulars? t Firft, 'tis not earned on as a way of God, as a matter' of Religion andConfcianc^'an'G^s way, and with Gods means; but carried on altogether wMl'p6hwhichcleerly (howes Independency isa Faction, and hath other deflgns then that of Conference, in furthering the growth of all forts of Sectaries, holding tenets againft their prin- ciple? as well as ours, by Licenfing their Books, &c. and upon all occafions, (helters and protects all forts of them. Fourthly, that Indcpendencie isa Fa&Ln, and not inatter of Gonfcience. appears because all thefe following forts and rancks of men come in unto it3 r, Needy .broken decaied iuen,who know not how to live,and hope to get fomthing,tum Independents and flick- lets for it. 2. Guilty ,fefpicicus and obnoxious men who have been or are in the Iurcb,and in fear & danger of being queftione J,or have bin queftioned, they turn Independents to efcape quefUoning, or if queitionedjthat Co they may come offthe better^Jndependencie be- ing a San&aary and the horns of the Altar whpre many obnoxious perfons flye and are fafe^and many of the(e guilty pcrfons thatthey may merit the more, prove fiercer Independents and Sectaries thea many others. 3. Some who have biifinefles.cauies, and matters de- pending, flrike in wiih the Ir.depend.Se&aries, pleading for them, that Co they may find Friends, be fooner difpatcht, fare better in their caiifes, &c. 4. Ambitious, proud, covetous men, who have a mind to offices, places of profit, about the Army, Excife, Sec, turn about to the Independents, and are great zealots for them. 5. Libertines and loofeperfons who have a defire to live in pleafures and enjoy their lulls, and to be under no Government-, they ar. fierce and earned for Independents^ and againft Presby- tery. 6 All wanton- witced, unfrable, erroneous fpirits of all forts, all Hereticks and Sectaries flrike in with Independency, and plead they are Independents. 7. Such who have no mind to peace, nor to the iettlement of things , eiiher out of hope whilft things remain unfetled* Eifhops and former times may come in again, or that love to fiflj in troubled warers, or are afraid to lofe offices and places that may fall with the ending of thefe troubles, thefe per- sons flrike in with Independents,and fide with them. 8. Many who in our Churches are difcontcnted at the faithfull preaching of their Minifters clofe to their confeiences, at their Admonitions and Sufpenfions fronuhe Sacrament, becaufe loofe?fcaqdalous,or be- Bb caufe 1 86 A further Difcovery of the Errours eaufe of fome difference upon their Ty ths, or fuch Hke^forfake our Affemblies, and betake them (elves to Independents and Sectaries, of which I could give divers inftances ; all which (howes the Church way and Independence to be nothing elfebut a Faftionr Now Fa&ions aid Parties in Kifigdomes and Common- wealths, though they may prevail to a great height, and grow for a time, especially in troublous unfctied States in the Springs and Falls of Kingdoms and Common- wealths; yet when they come to bedifc covered, laid open,and come to fbroe head and ripeRcfle,they ufe to fall, and be cad: out : If we confult with the Scriptures, or with the Hiftories and Chronicles of Kingdoms, as the £ rench and En- glifhj&c. we (hall find the Itrongeft, powerfuleft Factions and Parties both inChurches and States^who have had divided interefts from the Publick,havecome down and miierably perifhed ^ and we may fee this fully made good in the Anubaptiftsof Germany the Arminian Faction in the Netherlands, and our late Prelaticall FacYion, who though they were all grown fohigh as they haz- arded the ruineof th? Countries and Common^wea'ths wherein they arofe,yet they all fell and were brought down, and fo (hall it be with this Sectarian Faction ; can they think that either God, or thefe Kingdoms will fuffer thefe men long, or that the people will be al wayes bewitched wkh them? no, the eyes of men will be opt n, and chey will be discovered, every day more and m. re, and we (hall (ee them falling down like lightning. 6, Sympt. Their reaching afar , and medling with all kind of perfons and thi gs, grafping of all at once, labouring to ingrofle all offices, places, power into their hands, and thofe of their par- tie, flighting, abufing, and trampling on one way or other, all that ftandin their way, and are their oppoGtes3 there beingnjthing Military, Civill,Ecclefiafticall, bunhey have an eye upon, and do endeavour to have a hand in, not caring in the leaft when it fur- thers their defign?, to discontent all forts and rancks of per(bns, the King, Parliament, our Brethren of Scotland, the City of Lon* don, Reformed Churches, Aflt?n bly, the godly Minilkry of the Kingdom, particular worthy per(bns in the Armies, among ihe Gemry.&c. they make account to carry all before them, to get all to be tor them by one nuans or other, and in time to break all lhat (hall dare to appear agaiart them or erode their way es.Now in all and PraSices of the St&arkt* 187 all S races and Kingdoms Polupragmaticalnefle in fbme perfbns, greedinefle and over-haftineffe to have all, and thereupon oflend- 'ing and provoking many, hath been a forerunner or their fall: I mall only inflance in this Kingdom, and or the late times which all remember. What it was that ruined the Bimops and that party, but their grafping and medling with all at once,Church and Com- mon- wealth together, England and Scotfandboih, provoking alfb ail forts of perfons againft them, Nobility >Gentry,Cicy,, Miniiters, common people? whereas fas many wife men would often fay and comforted themfelves in the word ofjhofe times) if the Bi- mops and that party'had dealt but with a part at once, one King- dome only as England, or the Church alone, or Common-wealth alone, letting the other Kingdom be quiet to enjoy their laws, and fuffering men to enjoy Religion &: their Miniflers,though they had fomepreflures upon them in Common- wealth, yet in all probabi- lity in time they might have had their wills; but now the Bimops and that party opprefling both Church and Common-wealth at once, grafpingto have all, they will lofe all • and we fee what is be- fallen the BiOiops and that party : foour Settaries medling with both Kingdoms at once, with Church and Common- wealth to- gether; and having provoked all forts of men, Nobility, Gentry, Minifies Citie,People, our Brethren of Scotlmd: will not be able to ftand long, but King, Parliament, Scotland, City,Mini(tery, Country, will be fo againft them as they muft fall, let who will or can hold them up. 7. Sytnpt. of the down-fall of the Seftaries is the great fins, and wickednefte of that party, who are even now ripe for judge- ment, and their iniquities aimoft full; and I am confident, that for this many hundred yeers there hath not been a party that hath pretended to fo much holinefTe, ft ri&nefle, power of godlinefle, tendernefle of confeience above all other men as this party hath done, that hath been guilty of fo great fins, horrible wickednefle, provoking abominations as they are. The Se&aeies are full of Ephraims gray hairs ("though they will not know itj and thefe following finnes and courfes prefage their ruine,^i&. their deep hy- pocrifies and pretences of Religion and Confeience meerly to ferve their lufts, and to bring about their own ends, their perjuries and breach of folemne Covenant with God, making nothing at B b 2 all * 88 A further Discovery of the Err o urs all ofitjtfieirgreat unthankfuines and ill u(e ofGods mercies and de- Iiverances,their great ingratitude and unkindncs to men, particu- larly toourBrethren of Scotland r;cheir bloud-guiltioes in dtitroying the lives of many by dipping weakly and antient perfons in rivers in cold (eafons, 3nd in the deftroying of Co many fouls by Errours and Herefies and drawing them from their faithful Paftors,their horri- ble uncleannefles and lufts, their fearfull defpifing and mocking of all Gods faithfull Minifters and Ordinances, their opprellions, in- juftice, and unrighteous dealings with many they have had,to do with and where they have any power, their bafe felf-feekings, feeking their own things, their honour, profit, advancement of their Faction under pretences of felf-deniall , and the publike good, their holding of damnable Herefies and all kind of abomi- nable Errours, their horrid blafphemies againft God, Chrift , the Scriptures and all his Ordinances, their Machiavilnan policies, Jefuiticall equivocations, falfenefie and treacheroufnefle, their un- derminings and laying fnares for men, their countenancing {land- ing for the unworthieft vileft of men,fo they will be for their facti- on, their juftifying and pleading for a Toleration of all religions & confciences,even to blafphemies againft God & his Word, their in- venting of lies and railing fcandals upon the worthieft and inno- centeft men,as Minifters and others to blaft them with the people,, their profanenefie and loofenefle of life in making nothing of the Lords day, dayes of Faft and Thankfgiving, nor of holy duties, as praying, &c. their carnall confidence and trufting in arms of rkfli, s their ufing of w?cked and unjuftwayes and means to compafle their ends, not ftanding upon any rules, or keeeping to any prin- ciples, fo it may advantage them^ violating bonds of freindlhip^ going againft the lawes of Nations, joyining with the worft of men againft good men, labouring to fow divifions among bre- thren, raffing evill reports, fomenting jealoufies,. and ufing all wayes in their power to ingage the two Nations in a warre one againft the other, not caring to hazzard the ruine of all for the upholding of their faction. Many of the Sectaries have forfeited all principles of ingenuity and confcience, and will not ftand up- on any thing that may probably doe their work for them : they will take counfell of BaaUebub the god of Ekron whether they {hall recover, ufe the Divels means, as lying, breach of promifes, joyn and Pra3 ires eftheSeflants. joyning with wicked men,&c, forpretended liberty of confeience and upholding their way. In a word, they are like that Judge fpoken of in the 18. of Lnk?, which feared not God, neither re- garded men ; all they regard is the effecting of their defignes, and other things in order to that. And as many Sectaries are inthefetoo faulty and guilty, fo the very beft of them that I know, their Ministers, and others who are leaders, and havebee n any long time of the way, and underftand theftateof things,they ^lnlf^e^;n are extremely faultie in patronizing all kinde of Se&aries, and -Luniation,^ being againft all the wayes of foppreHing them, in ufing all fubuU 4,$. politick wayes and devices to hinder and delay the Reformation, in joyning with bad men againft what they acknowledge good, in going againft their own principles, razing their own founda- tions ; befides, they are very proud, lofty, touchy, full of equi- vocations, refervations, pretences, pretending one thing, and ' doing quite otherwife ; fo that I may fay of them with the Pro- phet Micah, The beft of them vs a brier, the moft upright is Jbsrper then a thorn-hedge ; and therefore the day of their vifttation com- eth , now jhall be their perplexity. And certainly, thefefearfull finnes and ftrange wayes (efpecially in men who have pretended to more fandtity and holinetfe then other men, having alfo,upon thofe pretences of greater purity, &c. grounded their great Se- paration and Divifion from all the reformed Churches) muft needs provoke God to viftt and to punifri them feverely ; and becaufe of his great Name which they have taken upon them and fo profaned, God will be fanclified (unlefle great and fpeedy repentance prevent it) in puniOiing them fooner and more re- markably then the Prelats and that party : And therefore in the clofe of this Symptome of the downfall of the Secls,I(liall,in the. name of the Presbyterian party, and of all thofe who are for the * The DecUra. folemn League and Covenant in both Kingdomes, make ufe of dome^FEa^SS . thofe words to and againft the Sectaries, which both Kingdomes -and Scotland, by (upon the coming in of our brethren of Scotland) ufed in their SwfS^oTche0 joint Declaration to and againft the Popifh, Prelaticall and ma- Parliament of lignant party : * It x hx own Truth and Qaufe which Wee main- HonoufabieCon! tain With ail the Reformed (fhnrches, arj which hath been Witneffed ven£ion oftftates andfealed by the testimony, fttfferhtgs and blond of fo man) Confef- of Scotland ,°?a fours and 'Martyrs,, againft the here fie \ fupe'rftkkn and 'tyranny of the yeer **41- Jnti-ageh** * 90 A further Difcovery of the Errours osfntichrift. The glory of his owne Name , the exaltation of the Kingdome of his Son, and the prefervation of his Church, and of this Hand from utter ruine anddevafiation is o#r aime, and the end which wee have before our eyes. ; His Covenant have Veee in both Nations folcmnly fworn and f ubf crib ed, "^fhich hce Would not have put in our hearts to doe, ifhee had been minded to defiroy us. The many pray* ers and fupp Heat ions which thefe many jeers lajhpajk, but especially of late have been offered up with fafting and humiliation, and with fir on g crying and tears unto him that is able to. deliver andfaveus, . are a feed W^hich promife unto m a plentifull harvefi of comfort and happineffe : and the Apoflacie, Atheifms, Idolatry, Blajpemie, Pro* fanejfe , Cruel tie , Sxceffe , and open mocking of all godlineffe and honefly have filed up the cup of our adverfaries to the brim, and threaten their fpeedy and fear full deftruc~lion, unlejfe it be prevented by fuch extraordinary repentance m feemeth not yet to have entredinto their hearts. 8. Sympt. is this. When God hath at fome times teftified a- gainft them, and fpk in their faces, as by laying open their naked-? nefle and fully difcovering their wayes, by fome books written, by fome Sermons preached by godly Minifters , by calling fome rubs in their way, in ftirring up the Citie of London to appear a- gainft them, or in difappointing fome of their purpofes by ftrange and unexpected paflages of his providence from heaven, yet upon none of thefe occafions have they repented of their deeds to give God glory, or humbled themfelves before his Minifters fpeaking to them from the mouth of the Lord, or abated of their fpirits ; but contrariwife, have gnawed their tongues for paine, blafphemed the more becaufe of their pains and fores, and ftir- red up themfelves with fo much the more induftry and fubtilty to - plot and work by all kinde of wayes and meanes to heale their wounds : and I could give many inftances, how upon fuch books coming, forth, and upon fuch acls of providence, which a man would have thought ftiould have made them give over, they have been more refolved, aclive, defperate, betaking themfelves to e- vill wayes and ftrange courfes for the faving of themfelves, as a- fperfing and railing fcandals and falfe reports upon the perfons whom they think have wounded them, as in the weekly Pam- phleters venting fome defperate parages, and putting forth ftrange aniPraSkes of the SeBaries. \q\ ftrange books upon the nick of things, with many other waye.% all which wife men cannot but obferve ; in which courfesthey have been like 'Balaam, Numb. 22. going on their way refoivedly,. though the Angel of the Lord have flood in their way with a fword drawn, and their feet have been cruflied againft the wall,. Mow 'tis a great fymptome ofdeftrudion and mine to a partie, or to particular perfons, when the hand of God is lifted upa« gainft them, that they will not fee ;. and that when God wounds them, in ftead of failing down before him, they feek to cure their wounds by unlawfull means ; and that when hee powrs out vi- als upon them, and fcorches them with great heat, they blaf- pheme, and doe not repent , that when hee flops them,they will drive more furioufly , and that when hee makes mens pride te- ftifie to their faces, they doe not return nor feek him for ail this : This is the forerunner of deftrudion in the Antichriftian partie, Revel.16. 8,9,10,11. And this was a forerunner of deftrudion in the Prelats and that party ; that after their great and long pro- fperity and fuccefle, when God did by writing, preaching, railing up of winefles teftifie againft them, and did by other ads of his providence crofle them, in raifing up the Kingdome of Scotland againft them, yet they would not give in, nor abate 5 and when a peace was concluded with Scotland upon the Kings rirPc going into the North,and they might have enjoyed their honours, greatnefle, for all that, they wrought fo upon the Kings return , as to pro- cure thofe Articles to be burnt by the hand of the common hang-man, and the warre to goe on, which proved their mine and fatall deftrudion. And for aconclufion of this iymptome, I will end it with thofe words of the Prophet Ifaiah, Lord, when thy hand u lifted up, they will not fee ; but they Jhallfee, and be a- fhamedfor their envie towards thy -people : yea, the f re of thine e- nemiesfhall devour them. Lord, thou wilt ordaine peace for us : for thou alfo haft wrought all our works for us. And though it be a fad thing that men holding forth a profeiTion of religion fhould fall to thofe wayes, and grow to fuch an height as I have laid o- pen 5 yet I am perfwaded tis a good hand of God, and his fpe- ciall providence and mercy to his Church in thefe Kingdomes, to leave the Sedares to fall into fo many evils, to take fuch-ftrange wayes, tfrus to difcover themfclyes, and to proceed fo far, that 1 9 2 A further Difcovery of the Err oars fo the Kingdomes knowing them well, they might in the ifliie be more effectually cured, and perfectly delivered from them : for3 had thefe men kept themfelves within the compafle of a few of their opinions, and carried things faire,and not broke out as they have done, we ihotild have thought them good holy men, been much taken with them, and many would have been deceived by them ; yea, in time they might have got fuch an intereft, and had fnch an influence, as to have corrupted all ; but now having thus early discovered themfelves both in matters of Church and State, in opinions and practices, this hath fo opened the eyes of this Eingdome, yeaof both, that it will caufe them to abhorreand abominate them as a wicked faction, whofe principles would bring in an tiniverfall Anarchie, both upon Church and State, o- verthrowing all Miniftery, fetled Government, and order in the Church ; being againft Kingly Government, the Houfe of Peers Houfe of Commons (unlefle ad f taciturn, and fo long as the com- mon people like them) • and all power of Magistrates (in capt- tall matters over.Churth-members) in the Common-wealth ; and who cared not to have facrificed the Religion, peace, happineflfe of thefe Kingdomes upon the ambition, fury, pride, luft, opinions of Anabaptifts, Libertines, Seekers, Brownifts, Independents: *w.vrinsVijco. And therefore, how-ever the Sectaries may Matter themfelves in very cf pvd eiow , r c \ * 1 i i • /. . new lights thews the mcreaie or their party, in the power they have in fome pla- b0o"ftinSeffatrhdr ces>m tne favour they finde among fome great men ; yet let them friends in the know, notwithftanding their policies, all their arms of flefh, all OTons!°f C°m" l^Qn' fr*enc*s m c^e Armies, in the * Houfe of Commons, and in *somc Seasr'es * Committees which they lb boaft of, yet God will overthrow toe who have them * and'tnejfe e*j$ft particulars are certain fymptomes of their tcidit mee, that mine ; and let who will doe what they can to uphold them, yet C^mitSur God will bring them down; for When they firing as the grajfe, London but thry and all the workers of iniquity flour ifh , then u it that they Jhall be ofbtetaivhal deftroyed for ever : And therefore let's be couragious and faith-" as ibon as" any full to the caufe of God, contending earnefily for the faith which ftlo^gives^cm && once Oliver ed to the Saints ; and let's be in nothing terrified notice ofit, and hj the Sectaries. And to all the Symptomes I have given alrea- gah!ft taf and -dy (bein§ fo mam/ fore-runners of their fall) let the Reader con- acquaints them fider this, That they have their deaths wound already, the fatall w*h*e ftaceof arrQW j^j h g^ g^ Shaving begun to fill, they (hall furely md Pratticts of the Sed 'arret. 193 furely fall : and that (betides the Citie of London, and other in- ftruments) God will honour our Brethren of Scotland to make them a great means of their falling ; and they {hall fail before the Scots (whom they have fo vilified and unworthily dealt with) as the Prelaticall and Popifli party did : and, mee thinks, the way of Gods proceedings all along in this way of Reformation, and many paflages of his providence hint and point it out to us ; for the Sectaries are aFa&ion alike oppofite to our Brethren of Scot- land, viz, the other extreme ; and all along, from firft to laft, God hath made the Scots inftrumentajl for the good of this Kingdome, and bringing things thus fa rre. And that God will honour the Kingdome of Scotland, and the Church-reformation according to their way, to bring down the Sectaries, let the Rea- der confult with M. Brightman (a man of a propheticall fpirit) in his Expofition upon the Church of Philadelphia, Revel. 3. 8,9,10. where hee {howes, that Church to whom fo many promifes are made, to be the Reformed Churches of Geneva, France, Scot- land, and thofe who are according to that way of Reformation in Doclrine and Church-Government ; and among many things obferved by Mr. Brightman upon that place, I {hall onely point at two* 1. That Philadelphia (the type of Geneva, Scotland, and the Churches of that Reformation) is moil: famous for truth of Do- ^od auUm u clrine : As for truth of Doclrine, where is there any place in the veritatemDoar^ whole world charter and founder? Here the whole Papacy is ^ji^&imV deftroyed ; Anabaptifts, Antitrinitarians,Arians,and fuchmonfters gw" »«* in *»*- raifed again from hell partly in Germany, partly inTranfylvania, JJg? %££%+. never found a {harper enemy. . ***** hi^'fuhr 2. By thofe who fay they are Jewes, and are not, ver.9. in the faoiwfa*%M- Antitype are all thofe who holding errours,do arrogate alone to ^*^%%£ jxcitatciruri thernielves truth, faith, falvation, the promifes of God, boaft- y?™,e ins nothing elfe but the Temple : fuch were the Ariaas under $**/*».*#*** * l onjtantine, Conjt annus, Valens ; and iuch are at this day the Pa- nu , panim in pifts, glorying in Peters chair : thefe will be accounted the onely ^tS*SUw Catholick^ and their Church the onely Church of Chrift,&c. hjiem invem- '- ''.'".*.'"■ „,, » . runt: quidctiam nonteutavertt ut Germantas Erclc/its errorerfuos evellertt ? Brighttgin* in Ajiocgljp. pag. 5» hi Entity - fa Judxifunt quoiquet erroribas impicati, fibi mis veritatem, jidem, falktem, j>rtm'jJiones j)ei arrogant nihil niji temylum, Temphn» crqantts ; q*ales jutrunt Ariani Eptjceti fab Conftaimno. Conftani;o, & Valeate. ^e^f^Bri^hcm,pa^55. *3 C C ' Now j g * A fwtherDtfcovery of the E rrours Now if wee confider well of thefe two things, i. Wee fhall findeno Church founder for doctrine then the Church of Scot- land , nor greater enemies, not onely againft Papacie and Pre- lacie, but againft Anabaptifts, Seekers, and all kinde of Sectaries, then they are. 2. Wee fhall not among all Hereticks and Sectaries that have been finee the writing of this Epiftle finde a- ny that have more refembied the Jewes, in boafting themfelves to be the onely people of God, then the Sectaries of our times,, the Anabaptifts, Independents, who extoll themfelves for the onely faints, calling themfelves the faints, the people of God, the Church ; and their way is call d by them the Church-way, Church- fellowfliip, drifts way, and that all who are not of their way are without, &c. fo that thefe words doe moft fully agree to them, who jay they are fewes, and are not, but doe lie ; and there- fore, to conclude this Corallary, all the promifes made to Phi- ladelphia do belong in a fpeciall manner to our Brethren of Scot- land: as Tirft, That God will make them come {viz. thofe who are the Antitype to thofe Jews, the Sectaries, Anabaptifts, Independents, that whole Faction) and worfhip before their feet, and to know that God hath loved them ; that is, they fhall overcome and tri- umph over thefe Sectaries : and, however they have been hither- to abufed and fcorned by them, neither have thefe unthankfull men acknowledged my love from that lingular gift of zeal, pie- tie which I beftowed upoja thee ; yet I will adorn thee with thofe things which are in great account in the world : thou (halt have victories over thefe enemies, and thou {halt enrich thy felf with their fpoils ; fo that no man but fhall be compelled to acknow- ledge thee deerly beloved, whom, above all hope, they fhall fee fo wonderfully encreafed. O Church of Scotland, and all yee that are for Reformation Presbyteriall againft the Sectaries, nou- rifh your hopes by thefe things,neither let your hearts be troubled whatfoever the world fpeaks againft you. Secondly , Becaufe they have kept the word of Gods patience, „,„'.-, . God will keep them from the houre of temptation which fhall h,s.] ag. 56, come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the eaith : That is, becaufe they have ftood for my doctrine and truth with -i great deale of danger, and yet wittva great deale of patience have. and Fndifes of the Settarhs. 195 have conftantly continued in their duty, I will therefore deliver them our of their dangers, I will not fuffrr them to link and pe- riftj in their trials, but I will give them ftrcngth wherby they ihail not only* ftrongly bear their calamuie, but they (bill alio over-come and be conquerorss not that the houre of temptation (hall not at all touch thef^Phiiadelphians,) for it can hardly be in the common calamity of the whole world, that they (houlld be wholly free.) but to keep them from the hcure of temptation, is to deliver them as God laved them from the hands of their ene- mies, that is, delivered them, 2 Jndg. 18. 3. Kim that overcommeth God will make a Pillar in his Tem- ple, and he fhall go no more out, &c. that 16, God promifes to make that Church over- coming, being an Hzbraifme nominttivi ahfolttti, and the reward is, that that Church (hall be lik a Pillar in the Temple of God; that is, (hall remain firmeand lafting in the Church, neither (hall chat Church fear any ruine or deftru&i- on, however the rain fals, the flouds beat, the winds blow, and all things with a joynt force break in upon them. The Spirit of Zlmin^A^br Godalludestothe twoBrafen Pillars placed by Solomon in the £4M7. Temple of God, which (et forth the liability of the fonne6 of God. And Co by the grace of God is this Church, not tainted nor cor- rupted with Schilm and bale defe&ion as the Church of Swdis was, which having no care of a full Reformation, by the juft judge* ment of God loft the rnoft of the people* CORALL, III. HEnce then from all thefe Errours, Herefies, Blafphcmies, ;. . and PracTifes of the Sectaries, we may fee whata great evill and finne reparation is from the communion of the Reformed Churches, and how highly difpleafing to God for men to make a Schifm and Rent in the Church of God in a time of Reformat!- en,GodpunimingtheSchifm and Separation of our times with fo many Herefies, Blafphemies, wicked pra&ifes,&c. as I have laid down in this & my former Book,wherein God witnefles from Heaven againft the preient feparation in giving men up to great (pirituall judgements and evills; and indeed God reftifies more againft the Sectaries of our times, then againft theold Brownifls and Separating leaving the Sectaries of thefe dayes to fall into Gc 2 greater I ' D»; n»j M . r *** y^i r*» i. men de Repubfi Marcyrdom cannot blot it ouyo Qpr.tnd Cbrjfift^znd thai God Eeekfu 7. c. 10. hath more (everely pur.ifhed it then murther& other grea* crimes. ^p% l^''u Caraby Datbj»3 and Abjron for their Schifm were puniihed more tettfm* ' (everely 3 with the earth opening aed fwaliowing i hem up cpitck3 £S which lam afraid are the mod: general! of any other, there being too many fleepers in all places, and among all ranks, in Citie, Coun- trey, among the Magiftrates, Minifters, and private Chriftians ; and would to God this were the word in this Kingdome, that many both in Magiftracy and Miniftery were onely fleepy and heavie, and that they were not in a dead deep, in a lethargie thac nothing can awake them : but 'tis too apparent that God hath powred out upon many the fpirit of deep deep, and hathcloicd their eyes, even Rulers and Seers hath hee covered, and all the Sermons, Books^ Speeches (which one would think would awa- ken men) are as- the Words of a book^that is Pealed, Which men de- liver to one, faying, Reade this ; and hee faith, I cannot, for it is fea- led: nay, not onely fo, but this is the condition of this Church and State, that many who are dead afleepe as in reference to prevent or fupprefl'e the fowingof heredes- and fehifms, are a- wake and alive, yea, watchfull at midnight, and waiting upon all opportunities to promote and further he rede, fchifm, and to hin- der, erode all means for the fupprefling of them,- witnefle the many Emiflancs fent forth into mod: parts of this Kingdome, witnefle the many books written, fermo-ns preached for them, witnefle thofe who ftand up for, and ufe all means to bring off Sectaries when in queftion, &c. witnefle. many (who profefle to be againft Independency, and for Presbytery, to be with us) that upon all occadons, even before the Parliament, and-in other pla* 2 o o A further Difcovery of the Ertourt ces heal the hurt of this Itingdome (lightly , and dawb with untempered morter, preaching that our errours are not fo ma- ny, that there are N them who make them to be more then they jare, and call truths of God errours ; and they fay, that in other times, as in the Primitive Church, &c. there were greater errours, and therefore wee need not be fo troubled. But (for my part) I look upon this lukewarme temper, remuTnefle in reference to the faith o-nce delivered to the Saints , which hath pofleffed fo ma- ny in this Kingdome, Magiftrates, Minifters and people, as that which will hazzard all, and may once more provoke God to fpue out of his mouth the lukewarm Angeli that is neither cold nor hot. And to draw towards a conciufion of this, I fhall fpeake to thofe in Authoritie in the words of the Prophet David, PfaL 2. io, 1 1 , 12. Bee Wife now therefore Ojee Kings, be inflruBedyee fudges of the earth : Serve the Lord with fear , and re Joyce with trembling. Kiffe the Son, left, hee be angry , and yeeferijb from the, Vcay. The fumme of which Scripture is an exhortation to Kings, Parliaments,and ail forts of Governours in high place, i . To lay afide pride, and felf-coneeit of their own carnall wifdomes, and with meeknefle to receive the yoke and Government of Chrift laid down in his word, and by their Lawes and Ordinances to ferve Chrift in eftabiifhing the true worfhip of God, and to fup- preffe all falfe worfhip and doctrine. 2. Hee calls upon Kings * caivin JnPfai. and judg£S to be wife ; implying, Firft, That the * conceit of iii!Si/f^SL their own wifdome (by which they are puffed up) hinders them fijius quoturgim from learning that which is their duty, and. truely right. Se- fJJjilimnp- condly, implying Magiftrates of all forts, both Kings and Judges, thur. $mmt»i are fubjecl: to want fpirituall wifdome, and to be fooles, to %2£\fc"l™TZ> gvz by crooked rules of carnall policie, as Jeroboam , fearing obUque faifum t0 |0fc parties,to part with any State-intereft, &c. rather then to %mtam% irfis keep clofe to the word of God, to doe their duties, and to truft frrjtrmgiu Ergo j^m ^ -r;ne pjfoimift teaches Kings and Judges wherein true ^ZZTrl'Jndi wifdome and underftanding confifts, viz, in ferving the Lord with frimpes in fieu fe^ anc[ ^[[Xmg the Sonne , not onely in their own perfons fer- ?0?™ani£jipre, ving God, and fubjecling to him with the kifie of honour and fnncfann. *J?!; reverence as ordinary private men, but qmtenus tales, as Kings pau *' " and Magiftrates, to fubmit their Scepters to Chrift, to ferve him, and to convert the power they have received from God, to the propa- and Pra&ices of the Sett arks. 20 1 ve~ ervi' propagation^ defence of his Kingdom. Then indeed (as learn- * Gfrh,deMa3 ed * Gerhard fpeaks) Kings and States ferve Chrijt, and kjjfe himjf ft^tu poiiuco: themf elves doe not onely receive thedotlrine ofChrijl, and imbrace it rh cbripferv by faith ; but alfo with the power given them of God, fee to this, that «** » infimque puritie of docirine Jhall be preferved in the Church, Idolatry andfalfel^f^dlart worjhips Jhall be abolijhed, wolves Jhall be driven from the fold ofn^ arf*JJci~ Chrijl, the Afinifters of the Church Jhall be competently provided for, a^uhmtur, 'fed C9-c And * Auftin (Tpeaking upon thefe verfes of the Pfalmift in S^.Mg** »T. -^ -nt \r • t ^ 1 • • n 1 r~r> it J -i divmmhbtdatcc one of his Epiftles)Iaith,T 0 whom vs it fpoken [_Serve the Lord with hoe effictim , m fear,&c.l? Is it not to Kino-s f But how do Kims ferve the Lord %rit"d-nrlrn*in with fear, mlcfie it be by a religions jevertty forbidding thoje things tur, id i iatrik& which are againfi the commands of the Lord ? For every one ^^jf^J^ them ferve s him after one manner as hee is a man , after another viUVcminko ar.. manner as hee is a King : far as hee is a man, hee ferve s him in li- Ectfefawjmtdk ving faithfully ; but as hee is a King, hee ferve s him in making ^antur,&c. Lawes commanding jufi things, and prohibiting the contrary : A% Et q^Tdiaum as Ezechias fervedJnm m deflroying idols, groves, and high places • eJ{» service Do- like asjofasfervedhim, &c: 4. God by the Prophet here T™ nJLTjS threatens Kings and Judges, that if they doe not ferve him with vhui -? *Atqu0~ fear, and kifle the Sonne, hee will be angry with them, and they ZTpZfLR^t's fhall periili from the way : that is, the fudden fury of God fhall »* *«•»*, nige* furprize and intercept them whileft they are in the midft of their f^Xfi^fe- way; fo * (falvin. To periili or be loft in the way imports usinfi fevmtatz fudden deftruclion whileft they are in doing their actions ; fo ferS^t^' Ainfworth upon the place. 'f«fys /«•*** qu>* Rexejl: nam quia bomo^etvit vivende fide.nev ; qmx verb Kex ejt.j firvh Leges ptsa'pieniei, & contrary prebibentei conver.itnti ngcre fdxr.cndj. * Califin. n Pfil. 2.1*. perirs ds"l:a quidmn txpsnunt propter viam perverfam^el f.elerdtam vivtndiraucnern. Alii refolvum ne %-za %ejir,a fesat, Mibi magis arridet diver fusfenfus, quod David fori derittr.net, ut eos interact fubitus Vet furcr, drim fc putabant adbuc efle m medio [Uiu i Scimui erjm Hi Dti < er.tc-npto es fibi in fetnvda ftriutu bfandiri Jchjnt, & qUafi in late tempo fe jaltent-. Vttndi re igitur mtnstw Vrtpheta, qnttm dixemt Pax tr Jccuruas, fs pre ul diftarc af.nsfue puitntes^reperttiiij intuitu abreptum i.u And for aconckiiion of this Coral la ry, O that any particular members of Parliament who are for pretended liberty of con- fcience, a Toleration of Seels, favourers of Sedbries, and out of thofe principles hinder all they can the fetiing.of Religion and Go- vernment by civil fandion, would often and fadiy meditate upon this Scripture, and be wife now (whileft there's time) thus to ferve the Lord, left fuddenly, when they leaft think of it, they periili from the way. andGod make jhem examples, for adhering fo Pd pertinaci- 202: A further Dzfcovery of the Err ours pertinacioufly to the Sectaries and that party* They may read in ikxlefiafficall ftorieswhat hath befallen Princes for not ferving the Lord in fear, and killing his Sonne -y and they fee before their eyes the many evils that have befallen the King, and the great ftraights to which hee hath been reduced for favouring too much the Popifti and Prelaticall party againft the minde and humble <3efires of both his Kingdomes : and can particular perfons think (who are not Kings, but under that title of Judges) that they can profper long in ftanding for a Sectarian faction againft the minde of both Kingdomes, and that the Kingdomes will not fee and defire to underftand how it comes about > and by whofe means 'tis, that wee having taken a Covenant for uniformity in Do- ctrine, Government, &c. and for extirpating of Herefie, Schifm,. and the Parliament having declared and made Ordinances for Presbyteriall Government, and declared in fome Declarations- and Remonftrances againft Anabaptifts, Brownifts, preaching of men not ordained ,. and againft leaving particular perfons and. Congregations to their own liberty ;, that yet all. things fhould be done quite contrary, with an high hand ? For may not now; whoever will both preach and gather feparated Churches, print and ad againft Presbyteriall Government, and for divers forts of Sectaries? Yea, fuch perfons are countenanced^ preferr d in all places, and to all kindes of offices and imployments (which. makes many turn Independents,) and the moll zealous cordiall men againft Sectaries are difplaced,or di£countenanced,or obft.ru - cted, &c. Thefe things doe feem ftrange and againft all reafon, that the Parliament, profeiTing and declaring one thing, yet the quite contrary in all things of this nature fhould be done daily in Citie and Countrey. In the worft times, when the King was moft milled by the Councels of Prelats and evill men about him,, there were not actions more contrary in many minifters of State and other perfons to Proclamations; and Declarations, then are -now to Ordinances, Declarations, and Votes of Parliament :' and yet we hear of few cenfured or made examples. Now the people every where fay, Thefe things could not be, perfons durft not be thus bold to do thefe things, but that they know they haV£ fome great ones to back them, andftandby them ; and the people en- quire after, and fpeak who they be, and queftionlefl'e will repre- fent and PraSices of the StSarks. 2 03 fenttbefe things as unfurTerable,andasmoftdiftoncurable to the Parliament, and they will humbly defi re thefe things maybe re- medied by the power and wi^omc of the Parliament: and \ here- fo-e O that all hch would be wife in time, be wife now, defert * Cafcin wPfit the Se&ane% further the work fo much rhe more as before they X^lZ£f£Z have hindred ir, for there is an emphaiis and weight in that Ad- /*£« ™««r« &« v.-rb **^, Unifying they Ihould do ir fpeedlly, btcinfc die fame ^If^Tr opportunity will nor bealwayes given^ and the Pfalraiit hints they **Jem dabmr o^ may yet do it profitably if they make hafte* bat tf any doe perffl: * *"£ and go on, working day and night, rolliisg every ftoae to uphold •that party,, he that firikes through Kings in the day of his wrath, will notfpare them, and they (hill find by- fad experience, rrhzn hti wrath ii hgtdkd but a link , Blffid a-'e-all they that put tick truft C OR ALL, \T, HEnce then from all the Errours, Werefies, Blafphemies, and wicked Pra£tifes that are to be found among the Sw&aries in -their AiTemblL sand Conclaves, let all fuchwho have been de- ceived and drawn to them under pretences of greater purity, holinefle, &c. and have any fear and awe of God and his Word, beexhorred to leave and forfake them, and to return to the pub- like Arlemblies , and communion of this and other Reformed Churches; and Khali bespeak them in tho(e words, Gam\c*6. 1^ Kelitrn return^ 0 SbuUmvz^reinrn return, that tcz tesy Uohufon thee, in the exhortation of the Apoftlo Pettr: Save jour fefvet from this untoward genet alien ; and in that call from Heaven, £crm out of hit my people^ that yee bt not partakers ef Inr Cmn:s% and that yee receive not ef her planted: I know there are many la the way who are not of the way, that know not the depths of Sa- tan, who are meerly deceived out of their high opinion of ibme of the men, and of the way,as a mofl: holy people, and as a way wherein they fhould enjoy a heaven upon earth, a great deale of love, holineiie, fweetnefle, comfort, &c. Now I have good hopes that all fuch upon the difcovering to them, the dangerous Errors^ fierefies, pernicious pra&ifes that attend that way,will be secover- ed, and bleiTe God for delivering them from (uch a dangerous ffiare$ andlaniperfwaded that all thoft who are (alleii from us Dd 2 upoa 2 -04 A further Discovery of the Err our s upon mifhkes, that are not Dogmacifts, nor engaged to the Secta- rian party upon points of credit, profit, intereft of relations, Sec. and (lull in l he fear of God, and in humility read ray Firft and Second Part of Gmgtfna^ by the bielTing and grace of God they will be a means to convert and bring them back to u?j and I the rather infift upon thisexhonation, becaufe I find both in Hiftortes and in the experience of our own times, that many Sectaries have *stuir.jinnai. Den regained * : Johannes Denkim an Anabapcift and a great T>£C,\ im * Scholar, was converted by GicoUmpadlwsfObbo fbiliopw a famous MuCcuii pag.tf7. Anabaptiit, yet recanted, and by an ingenuous and free con- Mufcuii loci feflion laid open the impoftures of his companions and Tbeodor. c£f™?g/ii*' Pbi/ifpus out of the perfwafion of Ohio afterwards repented. IfaZ^liUrum'^^ Anabaptifts were reclaimed by learned Mufoulus, and a DotitqueZ"™ rnong the redone who was aScholar,afterwards being made a Mi- fiwqBiaunw*F*' m&-r °* l^e Church, (pent a great deale of painsin converting fimg* in vwi the Anabaptifts.AndnDW in thefe times in my own and other Mi- ^mLdk'Z' ni^ers experience, (bme who have been of that way told us they thought the Anabaptifls a moft holy people,which made them to ^ride utter tag. j0yn wj£[1 them3butnow feeing their Errors and their loofe * pra*. second Pan o? ftifes, what a wicked people theyare,that hathcaufed them to leave ^TheilTperfo c'iem' Anc* ani»ng the Independents I know (bme * who have fot> have ebeen with faken theChurch way,and are returned to our publike Aflemblies. me, ana what i ^ Minifter of that way, and a Paftorofan Independent Church ivrue3X bad from r n . • ^ i • /* j » their own mouths tor lorrie yeers,upon re-eximmation ot his former grounds, and and relations, a5 holding them up to the light by the word of God, and the wri- reany others alio . £ r St • ° . / i & ' % Yt? j > have had* tmgsof (onie Presbyterians giving grounds out or the Word of God, (aw the Independent way to be a garment full of holes, and from the factions divifions he (aw in that way, and the ftrange Opinions and Err curs that the members of his Church run into, he is turned Presbyterian, a Minifter of one of our Gor gregations 'in England, and hath poblikely in his Parifh Church given God glory,recanted, profefled his beinghnmbled for being in the Inde* pendent way,and is a great zealot forPresbyt* and againft Independ. Another of that way, a good Scholar, Fellow of a Colledge, member of an Independent Church in London , upon reading feme Books againft Independencie, and other things he found in that way, left bisChurch,andisa profeft Presbyterian; I could tell alio of a Schoolmaftet ■ member of a Church in New-England* , who and P raft ices of the Se8a*ies. 205 who is of our chuchesnowfince his coming over ; but I muft ha- pten ; and unto all thefe examples for to caufe you to return,con- lider thefe following particulars. 1. Stay no longer in the way of Schifm and Separation where- in thou art, but upon all thefe difcoveries of the Errours, KereTies, Blafphemies, &c. of the Sectaries leave them left God be pro- voked to leave thee to go a great way further, then yet thou art, from Independency and Anabaptifm , to be a Seeker, to Aria- nifm, Antifcripturifme, yea Blafphemy and Atheifme. 2 The Independent Church-way is a way of errour, confufion, divifion, a way that God never finned upon nor blefled fpiritually with the blefTing of edification, onenefl'e of heart,& peace in their Churches,, but hath been a bitter root of divisions, contentions, er- rours in all places of the world whcre-ever fuch Churches have been fet up, as in newrEngland, Holland, Hand of Providence, the. Summer Hands, old England. 3. Come out from thefe Sectaries, this Babel, left being parta- kers of their fins,you be partakers of their plagues alfo ; for thefe Seels (as I have.fhowed you in the fecond Corallary) muft be de- ftroyed. and caft out : and not only out of this Church, but out of all the Chriftian world, and that either as the letter Antichrifts,the fore-runners of the great Antichrift, or together with him as a part of Antichrift, the tail of the Beaft ; and then all the friends and lovers of Sectaries, the merchants who were made rich, and traded in the commodities of the Sectaries, (hall caft duft upon their heads, and weep and. wail when they fee all that is come upon them. And for a conclufion of this Corallary, I lhall wind it up - with that fad and patheticall exhortation of Mr. Brightman to the Separatifts of his time,applying it to our Sectaries no\v:cThere * is in the Church of England a twofold great good, the preaching 1 of the word,and the adminiftration of the Sacraments,in either of 'which Chrift imparts himielfe, celebrating a mutuall feaft with c them ;he is firft received of us by the hearing of the word> then he cdoth again receive us in the Supper of his body. O wee mod bafe . £and unworthy as often as wee tfy away from hearing the word ! c for we refufe Chrift our gueft. O we wicked defpifers as often as c in the Sacrament with our brethren we withdraw our felves 1 for «wc-defpife Chrift calling us to the Supper, But thefe things are . added.. — _ . ,v 2 06 A further Difcovery of the Errours 1 * ' ' ' ■ ' — '-■"' — ■ i -■ i ^ ■ added far the lingular comfort of the godly. For who Vvouldnot fear, and with all/pied thinks of flying ft um this Church, Vchen they Jbould hear the condition ofthefe Minifters to befo hatefull to Chrift, as that in a Jhort time, utile ffe they repent, he Voouldfpae them out of hisJnomh, urlejfe that in the Words of (fhrift himfelfe they had been affured of communion and fellowship ?/ith Chrift in that Church? pralfe therefore to thee,0 mo ft meek^Lamb ,who findingthe doors Jbttt atrainfc thee, do ft not, being ftird up with f try . pre font ly withdraw thy fe If and deprive ns (according to our deferts) offalvation^ but ft ill lea&efi a pientfull ftore of thy felfto all them who open to thee knocking by^ thy word, and do not contemn thy ?no ft graciopu invitation by the Sacra- ments. Therefore* t is a wicked and blajfhemous errctir of them who dofoforfake our Qhurch, as if Chrift Were wholly gone from hence fie i- q^» ther could there be any hop of [ah at ion to them who ft aid in it. Let Ieimr f eleftiis 9c them thinkjhat Chrift is herefupping with his. Is it a fharpefor them earn a Error qui toft down there where they fee Chrift- is not afliamed .? Are they holyer fie ab haeEcefefia itn{l purer then hee 7 But wherefore do thej not convince themfelves hincCbrifiuscx- h t^eir 0VPn experience ? They cannot deny but they fir ft beleeved in ularet prorfos chrift before they made this fe par at ion from m : was not this from Fmi^raancotibus preaching in our Church ? But can any man preach unlejfehe be font., die poffet. Rom . I o. 1 3 . ? Why do they therefore fo perverfeiy refufe the word f or ChvlC^xconvivzu-fime blcmifb of the externall calling, whofe divine vertue they feele in tem cum fuis. their hearts ? Although that fruit doth no more free our depravati- illi: ?difcurr.bercj ons from all fault , then a true i'ffue of ones body doth adultery .- neither uii videnc chri- therefore ? tnu ft wee reft contented in the fe corruptions, or they feparate &^\\Q^&\&t%frornus for fome blemlfhes. wherefore return yee to the unity of the & tnundio-es e- ^yircjj which hath begotten & nourifhedyoudfymfy thisChrift who fe^'VoT ^cov'hfaps with hisElecl in our <*Afemblies, and lil^ewifee ntertains them as cunt fuoipib rum tfcey /,;^ truely you fitMl find? him no where elfe. And then fpeak- Sincinfidaiiqui" ing of thofe who forfake our Church, hee wiihesfomdneffe of mind prius inChnftum ta tym tfoat they m,iy return to the truth, whereby they may azoid f^roo^Vnobis that punijhment^hich abides defer tors and revoulters: Now if when divortium; unit t^e iUKC_wanne Angel was in our Church and fo many corruptions non L^sdict" of ceremonies, &c. that attended him, it was fo unlawful 1 and done ii noftra ^amyerous t0 forfake this Church, and it was the duty of thofe E:clefia> Nun-, ^ uiii tutempredi-sre qu:'s poteft nifi mirtatur, Rpw.io. 1?. 6>c. Qipmobrem reditc 2d umtatem fccci-e- foe, qua vos gerwic & aiur. Si fu^i^is huuc Chriaum, c;ui cum eletfis in ccftris catzbus canat , ac cos vicitrimexcipitjprofertotrorLjuami.-.veu^is, s^niwtis mcBtcm prccor i'lis IK ad vtiiiitem redcanrP quota- gimcfiip^i^iawquodd'firsorcsmancf. andPratficet of the Seftarks. 207 that deferted us, to return, left the punifhment of revolvers Qiould abide them: what then is the fin of thofe who now forfake our Af- femblies, fetupfepatatedChurches,when the luke-warme Angel is caft out, and all his attendants, and a godly zealous Miniftery brought in, and the Ordinances adminiftred free from ceremo- nies and the inventions of men, and Difcipline of Cenfures and Excommunication a fetting up ? O let all fuch be exhorted to re- turn to the unity of the Church, that they may efcape judgments both temporall,fpirituallandeternall, and not be judgded oft he- Lord as revolters. Corall. VI. HEnce then from all I have laid down in the Firfl and Se- cond Part of Gangrma of the Practifes , Proceedings and wayes of the Sectaries, we may fee and obferve the great dif- ference between the carriage of the Independents and our Bre- thren of Scotland : Our Brethren of Scotland have been con- ftant and true all along to their firft Principles, to the ends they alwayes held out, to the grounds which they declared they went upon, to the Covenant they have taken, and that in every Branch and part as well as fome, in (landing for the Kings Honor and juft greatnefle,&c. as well as (landing for their own liberties, in (landing for uniformity in Doctrine, Wo rfhip, Difcipiine and. Government in the three Kingdomes, as for preiervation of their own, &c. and neither all their fufferings, hardships, difficulties on the one hand, nor all the offers, temptations, flatteries on the other hand, have made them decline from their way either in their own Country, or fince they have been in Covenant with us.. I challenge any man in all this 9. or ic. yeers of their troubles to charge them juftly with falfeneiTe or breach of Covenant in pretending one thing and intending another, in forfaking former principles, and falling upon new according to any advantages offered them; but now the Independents and Sectaries have been inconftant,uncertain,and unliable in all their wayes ,cry in g up and extolling our Brethren of Scotland to the heavens, and after- wards as much cafting them down, pretending a regard to fome branches of the Covenant,as exterpating Popery and Prelacie,hut not minding others, as maintaining the Kings Honour, his juft power 2 o 8 A further Difcc-verj} of the Br r ours power and greatneffe, the extirpating of Herefie, Schifm, the eft*, deavouring the neereft conjunction and uniformity between the three Kingdoms in Government,Difcipline,&c.not certain to any principles or ends they have propounded), except thofe of A- narchie and pretended new light ; not well knowing what they would have, but changing their mindes, and framing their waves according as they have feen their opportunities and advan- tages : And becaufe I obferve it hath beene one great part of the defigne of the Sectaries, yea and as the main medium to effect their ends by, the afperfing and reproaching of the Scots (the Sectaries looking upon them as that Which letteth, and will let untillit be taken out of the way) which hath been therefore with all induftry, artifice and vigour profecuted ever fince the battell at Marfton Moore, and more efpecially fince the moulding or new modell of the Army : I (hall therefore, to undeceive the people, as in the fight of God, out of pure confcience fpeak a few things of our Brethren of Scotland, and (how particularly fome differences between them and the Sectaries : i. The Scots ftill upon all occafions have improved and made ufe of all victories, fucceffes, and advantages put into their hands^ (as the coming inofthe^King now to them) for the good of both Kingdomes, and for effecting the ends declared in the Covenant, not for any particular ends, as to get poifeflion of Newark, or to be revenged for affronts offered them,or injuries done them by the Independent party, or to increafe divifions, jealoufies^difcpn- tents between the Nations ; But now the Sectaries have made, ufe of all advantages, and of all fuccefles they have had, and of all events that have fallen out for the encreafe of their owne party, & effecting their particular ends divided from the intereft of both Kingdoms,a-nd the ends exprefled in the Covenant; yea to increafe and further jealoufies, difcontents, differences between the two Kingdomes, by blowing up and aggravating upon all occafions all things againft the Scots, by railing againft and fpeaking evill of the Scots in all companies and places, by afperfing them in many printed books (carefully, fpread and difperfed abroad by the Sectaries ) and by many falle reports and other dangerous infinuations againft the Scots vented in weekly news Books (the Pcnfioners of the Independent party) and particularly fince the Kings and Praftifes of the SeSarks. 209 Kings coming to the "Scottish army many things have been related and fpoken of by the weekly Pamphleters, which refiecl upon our Brethren of Scotland, and fome upon the Kings Majeftie (which muft needs feem flrange and be very offenfive to all good and wife men) andfbmncrTthe more, the King being come in, and in the Parliaments Quarters. I cannot ftand to name the particu- lars, nor to animadvert upon them now, but refer the Reader a- mong others,tO perufe MercMrius Brit anient pttm+i 3c. The Scotch Dove, num. J 34. Afoderate Intelligencer, nttm.61,6^ neither fhal! I much need to do it, for I doubt not but they will recant short- ly, and being mercinary fellowes, we £hall fee them within a few weeks ring the changes. 2. Our Brethren of Scotland have born with much patience and longfuftering, quietneffeoffpirit and humilitie , infinite re- proaches, evill fpcakings againft in City, Countrey, by all forts of Sectaries, jpafled by alfo many affronts, negle&s, abufes offered them ; and when many things in this Kingdome have gone croile to their defir.es,hopes, and the Reformation they expecl;ed,and di- vers things have fucceeded to the content and defire of the Secta- ries, yet they have put up all, waiting upon God for a change, faid little; neither the Commiflioners for Scotland, nor any particular perfon of theirNation having put forth intemperate books againft - thofe whom they conceived the authors and chief engins in thefe matters, but have born to admiration (considering they left their peace, and incurred the difpleafure of their native King to come in to our help, and lay under fuch great fuflfe rings in their own Countrey) all the evili furmifings, fcandals, reports, jealouiies rai- fed of them,difgraces and fcorns,w ithout any breaking forth. But now the Sectaries, upon every little occafion of being crofted in their way, as by Ordinances coining forth againft any of their prin- ciples and pradices,(thoughGod knows they have been little put in execution) by calling in queftion any of their party,t hough moil defervedly and juftly , by petitions put up againft the Sectaries,, how proud, how impatient have they been ? what ftrange words have they given out ? what meetings have they had ? and what rai- ling Pamphlets have been written one upon another againft Par- liament, Adembly, Citie ? 3.The Scots upon alloccahons and opportunities have been for- Ee ward 2 1 o A further Dtfcovery of the Err ours ward for peace, moving for peace and the fettlement of theChurch, deilrous of Proportions to be fent to his Majeftie : But now many Sectaries could not endure to hear of peace,, nor of the Kings coming in,, nor of the fettlement of Church, they have looked fo much to their particular ends of profit,, increafe of their partie while things were unfettled,that they have alwaies exprefled them- felves to the contrary, fearing their way could not thrive nor Hand,if once things fhould come to be fetled,and theGovernment and peace concluded of. Many more differences might befhown between them ; but I muft draw to an end^and the underflanding Reader may by thefe eafily hint at more,and it concerns the whole Kingdome now at this time wifely to confider and lay things to- gether concerning the different carriage of our brethren of Scot- land and the Sectaries, that fo a good underflanding may be be- tween the two Nations for the putting a fpeedy end to our trou- bles and diffractions in Church and State, and that wee maynot by mifunderftanding of things, nourifhing jealoufies, beleeving falfe reforts, ferve the defignes of fome particular men, to put us into a new warre, and occafion new differences now that (blet - l^ u* row reach fed be God)our work is even done,and the fhip richly laden come h7nl°umohcours£- into the haven. And to ftop the months of Sectaries andma- I^eupTun? wto lignants for ever,andto pollefie us of the realitie,honeftic{faithful- SS^eem81t,?ur nefle of our Brethren ofScotland^ confider but what wee have yrSic^thS found them all along experimentally from firft to laft,.and let any ©ffiSS^S man inftance (if hee can) in any one action from the beginning of 1^SSS3Si our troubles,wherein the State of Scotland hath broken with us,or »*£ SffiSS been unfaithfull : Their going out of this Kingdome to their own SSJSte^to Countrey when they had been in England about the lpaceofa F^wSui'HnslVa- yeer,with their good carriage in the Land, and upon going home.,. Sorrily nSd m *s known unto all and confefied ; and it was a reall confutation of SmVttiycaii i?a many evill furmifes againft them in thofe times. When they were it"fiiia(5ttofe- defired to come into this Kingdom,then they were a moft worthy >noi hght in tojmer ^ation.a Nation that God loved and honoured, and that in the SSSSSSfS judgement of * Mr.. Burroughs an Independent, who in a Speech Scottiruf Philadelphia flgnihes Brotherly love : When was there ever a Nation, fuch a Church that joyncd rog-ther in fuch firm Covenants as Ih"v have done? Had wee had the. ike union amongftus>0 how great things hid we done before this time! A Nation it is that hath engaged it fclt' jtoGodin a higher way, mair.oieexcraordinar- way, then any Nation this day upon the fa eof .heeaith hath uonej m the moft folemn way co~ tenanting with the eternall God, powring forth theu piayers and their tears for joy togetherwith their covenanting: A Nation that tath retormei their lives for fufmall time, more then ever any peoplethitwe know ot in the world havedone: And apeople that have rifenupagaintt Anti- chrift more' m another way tiien ever people have done, and that is the great Work 01 God in thefe times. And therefore God certain y hath a love unto them, becaufe they break the ice, and begin the work, and arifeinfuciuwayas they dOCjtWtlie gulling doWflS of the man Oi fin. "Mr. KUNiigto Pffeert fuffer noc a pag.i?. ofhisSpecchatGuildHaiiuponthecoming in of our Brethren of£3"0 ^o^rt Scotland- A Nation that God hath favoured by ghixgas gkriomfucccffc unto, as no not fo much ever he did unto any 3 whofe low and mean beginnings he" hath rat fed to as great a as into the town. height, as ever low beginnings in ary Con-try rrere: c How hath God di/fipated & € blafted the coun Pels ©f their adverfaries ? how hath he dii cove red ail their 'treacheries? although they be inthemfelves (comparatively atleaft) a poor * peopl and of little ftrength(as the Church o£PhiUdelphiavfzs)yct they have 'kept the word of Gods patience,andGod hath kept them in the hour of teqjr c ptationtGod therefore is with them. Well I fay tis happy for Ewlandih&twe are joyned with them in Covcnant,for we needed them as muclTnow as ever before, and we are as much beholding to them in regard ofour divisions, ma- ny of u. not knowing what we would have, and in regard of the many Secla- nes among us, and the height they have rifen unto as ever we were before for their help againft the Popilh, Prelaticall and malignant party 3 and therefore hippy England both for theprefent and for the future, that now we arecom- E e z- jng 2 12 A further Discovery of the Errours ing to a peace we are fo joyncd and wrapped up in Covenant with Scotlmi9 that the peace and union is not oi England alone, but of both Kingdoms; an4 that this is our advantage I mall commend to the Readers confederation fome particulars out of the Speeches of Mr. Solicitor, a prime able member of the Houfe of Commons, and Rafter Burroughs a chief man among the Diflentirg Brethren. Matter Solliciror -fpea-king of the benefits that will redound to this Kingdome, and the advantages we ihall have by a neerer Aftociation with the Scots, and by their coming into this purpofe for our afliftance (howcth that certainly they are many- Thetbird is this , that whenfoevcr we do come to a Peace, when Gods tine is come, that we Jhall have one, yet their conii»gin>in all probability it will caufe m to have a better, a furer, and a better grounded Peace then if they do not come in- And li{ewife, what Peace foever we have, that it wilt be perpetuated, and be the fcatrer for maud our poflerity to rezp the benefit of it, B at how is it litee to be, wh en there Jhall not only be our own Y^ngdome, but a Br&* tber l^ngdome, an entire Fjngdome, one of the fame Religion with m, one that lovti their Liberties as well a4 we, whtn thy jhall be ingagedin point if interest with m% when the fame lava, the fame Acls ofPa'iVament that fmllcompofe the diffe/enas, when if it be broken on om pari sin any thing that concerns m, they cannot conceive but that it may be their cafe the next day, becaufe it all depends upon one Law, one and the fame title, and their interefi is the fame j So that if there were nothing elft in it, but that we were Ufa to have the better Peace and on better terms, and whatever it bet is likc'ytobt lyipt the better to maud our poflerity, if nothing elfe were iu it, that wen much to our advantage, furdy if by fome con fder able fumme of money, we might havebroight in, &ndbave them at the en A of this Peace, and in* tcrefted in it as well as our /elves, Rafter Burroughs faith, How happy fhould we be, if we might have them in a neere union with m ? And a people that have carried themftlves with as great honour and fait hfulncjf, with as great w'fdome and order in the mo ft difficult wor\ that ever a people d.d undertone in thofe by and intricate pathts that were before untrodden. Certainly that they undertook at the beginning of their wori\, but afewyeersfnee it could not but be loo\td upon with the eye of reafoft, as the moft unlikely worl^ ever to have procecded,as any wor\ ha'h ever done, and yet how hath the Lordbetn with them,and with what w'fdome and gracioufneffe have they carried >'r-Sothat fromihe confederation of al I have faid in this Corallary and from rhefepafiages in thefe fpeeches,, tis good by all means to preferve the union of England and Scotland, and feeing we mall be fo happy in a ncer union, and God is fo much with them, and carries them thorojghwithfo muchwifdome and gracioufneiTe, and that we {hall have the better Peace, and have it the better kept, by having them ar the end of ir, and Jntercftedin it as well as our felres ; lets hearken to no Sectaries nor Independents falfefurmifii gs, cvill reports, and fcardalscait upon our Bre- thren of Scotland, but pray and feek by all means a more neer union and com- mun'on between that Kingdoms snd this, for there is a Welling in them ; and for my part I had a great deal rather fal and perifh (if the will of God were fo) with the Kingdom of Scota*d, and the Prcsbyt. party in E?tgljnd,ftandmg for the Covenant and the truth profefl" d in all the Reformed Churches, then to grow and flourifli for awhile with the Sectaries ftanding for a Toleratton of all Seftsand Opinions, yea then tobe a King among ihem, as fo'Sof Leyaen v/mtMunfler. FINI.S. The third Part of GANGR^NA O R, A new and higher Difcovery of the Errors., Hcrc'fics, Blafphcmies^and iniolent Proceedings of the Sedaries of thefe times -5 with fome Animadvcrfions by way of Confutation upon many of the Errors and Herefies named. As alfo a particular Relation of many remarkable Stories, fpeciallPafTages, Copies of Letters written by Sectaries to Sectaries.. copies ot Letters written from god;y Mini iters and others, to Pari i ment-men, Mmifters, and other well-affected pcrfons 5 an Extract and die fubijance uf divers Letters, all concerning the pre Cent Sects : together with tea Corollaries from all the h.renamed Piemifes. Briefs Animadverfions on many of the Sectaries late Pamt A Lllbnrn£s and j vet tan* bookfc'againft the^Hciufeoi Veto* hi if the , Engl jh w#rts , The lord Mayors Farewell froth bis Q]j gf . . i • - M. Goodwins thirty eight J&teyes upon the Ordinance ng^-jl ~~lcr fj s end E ' '< M. Burtons CfmfmmttUs Defo m.ty.}A>D'lL Sermon before tl Wherein the Legiflative aud luaicia11 Power oc the Houfe of Peercs over C ta- mo nets is maintained and fully pro.c'd againft the Sectaries , the Power of the Houfe of Commons clearely demonfVeated to be overthrowne upon the Me brought by the Sxctaiies againit the Lord* 5 the tare ftemonftrancc op tht C London juftitied, the late Lord Mayor and the City vr^nc- :d " ay-injuft Afperfijm,our Brethren or Scut'andcieercd from all t ic c:1 1 iriies and leproaches caft upon them, an-! the Magiftrates power, in fupprerling Herefies and Btaiphemies affe ud. As alfo fome few Hints and briefe obfervations on divers Pamphk : written lately again ft me a;;d fcmeot my books, as V Gmd nns pretende - to the Antapolcgie, M. Burroughs Vindication, Lor/fete) s Lance, Gaftrrgna : Rex, Gangrtna-Cbrtfturx, M.SaUmarfbes nnlwer to the (econd part pf Gang *na A luftification of the manner and way of writing thefe Bo< k caAc&GaBgra-na wherein not onely the lawfulncfle, but the necciiny of writing after, this man- ner is proved by Scripture, fathers, the mofr eminent Reformed Divines, Cafuifts, the pra&ice and cr lome of a'i Agrs By T h o m a s Edwards Minifter of the GofpdT Iudc 8 v. Likf»ife thefe Jill by dreamers defil; the jhfb, defptfe dominUn, and f pea k^ dignities. X Pec. 5, tj. Tetheref«reybflovtd, feeing ye know thefe things blfo'e* beWAre left ye alfo being led a»ay whh theerrour of the Wicked, full from your oltn fisdfajtnejfe. Lmdon , Primed for Ralph Smithy at the Bible, in Cornehill. V$ 4 4. THE TABLE. Henry Den, p. 85,86,87. ^M. Beedle of giocefter, p. 87. lAndrr* Deb man, p. 88. M. Srburj, p. 8j>, 90. 25 o. Sir Worts, p.95- Pator * Smith, p. 96. ^« Durance y p. ptf 3 07» M.FoTveU,$.9J^ Brabfon,?. 97,9%* WornweH, p. 98. M. 'Blackwood, P* 9g» M>Batcheler,\>. i02,io3,io4,ioj>- 2Xg0*//aBookfeller,p. 105, Harrc a Weaver, p. 1 05 „ H/V^..p. 105. Carter, p. 10?. M. Bunniard,^. 105. M. Toftlethwait, p. 105. M. Crafts,^. 105. Oats* Weaver, p..i 05, 106.* Tench, p. 106, M. Burroughs, p. 107, 1 08. 1 1 8, 119. 164. 180. 181, \H>SymQn4s7ty 108. 131 " £Vx£, p. no. ThemaeWehb, p. Ill, Blunt, ip. 112. Emmes,ip* 112. brighter, p. 1I-2J Cretenfis, p. 1 14, 115, II&, n7> n$* 119,120.159,1^0,161. M. Cradock^ p. 131. 1 63. Richard Overton,^* 148,149,150, 15^ 152. ^*fo* Lilburne, p. 1 5 3 , 1 54, 1 5 5, 1 J6>; I57>I5^593^o>262- fohnTrice,^. 160, 161,162, M.Sympfon,ip.i63. ^Andrew Wicke, p. 169, 1 70. Katherine fflidlej, p. 170,171. John Hall, $. 171. Lanceter, p. 170, 171. M. Sjmonds, p. 241 , 242. M. 'Burton, p. 242, 243, 244, 245, 246^ 147. G>ww ttie Felt-maker, p. 248. S fencer* Coachman, p. 249. Gorton, p. 249. Lievtcnant fohnpreb,^. 251, 2 5 2.2 £4,' Colonel 1 7^ Hewfin, p. 252,253, Ma jo r Axton, p. 2 5 3 . Mar gent North } pv 25 J» ■ . . j THE TABLE. A Relation concerning fomeLctters | Army;, p.24^250,25 i{^t^ 3,2*4- writ to worthy Members of the A Relation concerning one in Autho<» Koufe of Commons, Members of i . rity, and what trickes and devices the Aflernbly, and .other Minifters,' he ufed to bring one in to be a Bur- \by godly Minifters, concerning the ; geffe of Parliament, pt abules done by the fouldkrs in the | *5h*56* Certaine Corollaries drawne from th@ Errours and Heretics laid downe in this Booke. 'Werol.i. Sfeewes that by the infolent proceedings of the Sectaries thofe places of Scripture in Timothy and Peter are made good, and fulfilled in our Scdarits, p. ^257,258. Carol. 2. Shewes that Errors and cor- rupt Doctrine produce a wicked life, and loofencfle of manners, p.258,25p>26o32(5i. CcroL 3. Shewes that many of the Sectaries are not onely againft Church-Government, but againft Civil! Government^ p.261, . 262,263. Corol.<\. Shewes that our evills are not taken away, but only changed, p.263. Coral. $. Shewes into what a condi- tion we are fallen, and from what fallen, that we can doe and fiufer fwch things as we do, p.2^,2^4. Corel. 6. Shewes what a great plague and judgement to the Land fo ma- nySeclanesintheArmyare, Jj Carol. 7. Shewes that never in any ^Kran??n'ftianSt^ there hath been fnch a fuffcnince and To. leranonashathbeen^ndHino^ Krngdome, jgjgj though they will receive Liberty of Confcicncc, yet they will not' gw it to others where they have power, n caufeofallourprcfentev.Ilstobe ' ^&,M fhCWeS wd^eaningPraea ftonWkarnew be undeceived, p.278. t 'A *— «. , .,,-/, r.T&..-r' lafTminflfii-'tiiv <■ THE TABLE. -»- -v A Poftfcriptjin which the Reader hath an account given him of many Pamphlets put forth againfi: Mr. Edwards: fince he writ the fecond i |>art of gangrtna, and fome brief Animadverfions upon them all., as ^Burroughs Vindication, gaa- fr*»a playes Rex 3 }A.Sdltmarfi?s hadowes flying away, &c. rA Relation of the Names and of the Speeches^ and doings of the principall Independents and Secta- ries fpoken of in this Booke. ^r.?#,pageip,82.8). Mr. Knollys, p. i p. p . 48. 241 . Floid a Preacher, p. 62, UWatthewes, p. 66. Peters, p. 24.27. 76,77. 120,121,' YA.Eaton$,62.2-6fa 122, I233I24) 125,12^,127,128,? U^ahmarA p. ?2j 7h76mlThu^ jap, 130,13.1, :i$2, 13^134, 135, ^6, 137,138, 139,140,141, 142, *43>M4> M5,i4^ M,rW/,p.5.457>5^ George 'Young, p. 64. %\.Delly $.63,64*113.161. M. Randall, p. 25. Thomas Coltyer, p. 27,28^,51,52. Wlttian? Bowling, and his errours, p. 3W- ifoff* a Tinker, p. 81. Field* Bodiesmaker, p. 81. , £>*>* a Taylor, p. 81. M.JVrf^, p. 81.147. M. Harrifon,]). 81. M:Grpmvfc$. 81,82. Mar j €Bsedd( er; EViU men and feducers wax worle and worfe, deceiving^ wd being deceived h as a Fountainc cafteth forth water, their hearts caft forth wickedneffe-, and yet none greater frf- tendcrs to truth and hdineffe^ then thefe, and by thefc pre* tenses they deceive many : This the Holy Ghoft in Scripture fore- tells, the Stories of former ages tcftifie, that it may not fceme fir ange to thee if in our dates zKo Egyptian darknejfe be accounted Goffell-light, licentioufneffe Chrifiian Liberty^ and pet ended Saints if unmasked, appearc reaM Devills. In two former Treatifes the hereticall and bUfyhemou* opinions , the Jcandalom and abominable practices of our Sectaries have been difcovered, and to the end thou mayeft be warned, and the truth of God not left without witneffe in Ages to comc$ This third (being a higher and fuller Difcovery of the Er- rours, Herefiesandlnfolencicsof the Se#aries) is penned by the former Authour, and allowed to be printed by him that is thy Friend in the truth , fa. Cranford. IDflBflflfliiflfliiBiiaaiicaaaaaaaagigcBaaagoaraDaaflafloaBagooB iflflafltfaaagagaaaiiogfliiflaflanaaaaanaanflnanogaflflflfl The Preface. N this following Book^ as in a cleare and true Glajfe, every impartiall and ingenuous Reader may plainly behold the many Deformities and great Spots of the Sectaries of thefe times, Spots of all kinds, Plague Jpcts, Feaver jpots, Rurpule /pots, Leprofie Jpots, Scurvey jpots, Spots upon them difcoveringmuch malignity, rage (drfrenfie, great corruption and infe El ion, of whom may befaidasin Mofes Song, Deut. 32.5. They have corrupted themfelves, their fpot is not the fpot of his children : they are a perverfe and crooked generati- on. O that the Sectaries themf elves and others eafie to be deceived "frith good words and faire fpeeches, apt to be carried away with good names and fpeciom fiowes, as godlineffe, purity of Ordinance s9 Confcience, Would but look^ into this Glajfe and continue looking therein, diligently in the fear e of God reading over thi* Book^, and ebferving what's here written, comparing and examining one thing With another, which Would they do, I am confidently perfwaded ma- ny of the Sectaries who know not the depths of Sathan would quicks Ij be taken off, become out of love with their way and returnc, and ethers k*pt from going after thofe wayes : this would prove a Sove- raigne Antidote both to ex pell the poyfon already received and to pre- vent the taking infection. Now that this tBool^(by the bleffing of God) may the better attaine thefe ends, I Jkati in generall premife two things. 1. Remove fome objections that may lie in the way of the Rea- der, wipe off the dufl and dirt cast upon this GJaJfe that might hin- der the clear fight of things . 2. Give fome Rules, Directions, and Camions, as for the bet- (*) tcr THE PREFACE. ter under ft anding of it, fo for preventing fome cavils andmiftakes ' that otherwise might be. Tor the firft, I obferve two things have beene objected aaainft thefe Books of dij covering the Errors, Hcreftes , and Prattifes of the Sell dries : Firft) the manner- and way of writing, as meddlina with matters of fact, particularifing men by -name, and being- very bitter andsharpc -.Secondly the matter as being untrue and conftftinir mo ft of lyes falflooods and fables. Now for the fatis faction of the Rea- der in the fr ft jhe manner and way of writing thefe -parts of Gan- grana,/ have drawn up a large Treatifeupcn this fubjebtftiz.ajufti- f cation of relating matters of fact and the names of SelKiriesas^el as their Opinions and ^Arguments, which I have proved from the Scri~ ptures of the olda?id new Teftament both in commands and examples "3 Orthodox Fathers Auguftine, 8cc. other Ancient JVrJters> as Ber- nard, &c. the moft learned and famous among the moderne Calvin^ Luther, Eeza, BulHnger, Danatis, Sec. the judgement of Cafuists% as Baldwin, &c. from the prattife of Sectaries themfelves, as Do- natifts, &c. in all ages, both in writing one againft another, and a* gainft the Orthodox,, and from many fir ong convincing Reafons- and be fides thefe proofs have anfwered fully all objections of all forts brought against it, as that tis a (peaking againft the Saints, unco- vering our brothers nakedneffe^a going againft the Rule of Chriftin Matth. 1 8. which » to tell our Brother alone : which Treatife of the fuftification of Xvriting thefe Gangramaes (/ am confident) will not be only fatisfactory , but triumphing over all the clamors, outcries '; and .objections made by the Sectaries againft my *B ocl^} flaying their Abfaioms, and cutting off the heads of their great Goliahs, as that of fpeaking against the Saints, and in the judgement of al learned and in- genuous men flopping their mouths for ever-: Notwith ft anding al which I cannot but expect many of the Sectaries Will ftill clamor •,ffeak^evill.-> and will not be perfwaded, though never fuch reafon be Jhcwed them^ yea if an Angel from heaven, or one of the old Prophets, arifingfrom the deadyjhould ffeak^agamft their Opinions and^1 ayes, tisto bef eared many of them would yet go on. The ftrong delufton that. God hath fent upon many of them tobeleeve lies, the great inter eft of divers in regard of preferment and profit ; the Popes Croft>n,andthe Afonks bellies, the deep ingagements of others to that way by many relations 3 mi having mens per fons in admiration^ make it a hard Work^to con- vince THE PREFACE, vince men though there be never fttch evidence of Reafon. I may ccmplaine of the S eel aries' of our times, as* Parous doth of fome iV 'ara?usj« 2, Lutherans" and others in Im time, that things are altogether carried Gab'.h. v. 9. by opinions , yea by affections, no Arguments, no Apologies can take 0^^^ flsce. They that at the will and p leaf ure of fome men do *o+4Jhrtseeritkr9iiB» trove of unprofitable, fcandalom, yea monftrom opinions , they #re affzftibus.Nuh c aft off, the right hand of fellowjhip deny ed them although they preach 1* Argument^ fhrifl (incereh. But no\V in the interim till that Treatife can come ':uU* ^potogie V r J . . 1 /* 1 /r /, ; > 7- ; ^ /•> locum mvem- fcrth, which I intend ft all precede the fourth Part of Uangrana, mtm J wljhthe Sectaries to confult h Baldwins cafes pf (fonfeience who . handling that cafe of Conscience, whether the Authors andmaintai?^ ■ ,.* '.{* €rs of falfe opinions are to be fpoken againft by name , rejolves it can.y.paz. 10. affirmatively giving Scriptures and Reajons for it , yea JhoWnng that $3 io$$.F^- falfe teachers are rather by name to be branded, then thofe who lead f0)um a £<-i- onh wiched lives, and Calvinsc Tractate avainft the Libertins ,aivinq- tfm FrePhg>':a~ r £1-^ r eale of Gods glory, and a doing God fervice, efpecially. confidering that the Sectaries in their naming of Presbyterians, and bringing in mat- ters offaSt andftories have proceeded in a fix fold manner and way ,. all Which in matters of this hind be the things moft liable to blame and exception, and which J have all along carefully fbunned and de- clined. Fir ft, the Sectaries in writing "Books againft the Reformatio on andPresbyterians, have not (pared to Write againft, and that in a moft reproachfull andvildWay, Whole bodies, Ajfemb/ies, Commu~ nitics, andthofe thehiaheft and great eft, as the. Houfe of Peers,Houfe of Commons, the City of London and (fommon-C ounce ll,the Ajfem-r bly, the Kinq dome andGenerallosfffembl] of 'Scotland, fomefcores of fitch Books written by Sectaries being in all mens hands ; whereas in my Writing againft Sectaries, I have jpoken only againft parties lar perfons, but to whole Bodies and Societies I have tendred all due re (pel}, vindicating them and their power againft the Pamphlets and ajperjions of Seffaries. Secondly, theSetlaries in their writings of mat- ters of fall have not only named ordinary perfons, but perfons of the great eft quality and place, abujing them by name, as divers Mem- bers of both Houfe Sy the Speakers of both Houfe s,fome of the Lords and fime of the Commons, the Lord Major 0/London by name, but 2 'have all along declined the naming of perfons in authority and Ma- qiftracie, viz. in that way. Thirdly, the Sectaries in their perfonall matters and ftories of the Presbyterians have ft ill related things ma- nifeftly untrue, of which there hath been no ground at ally as Mafter Priced ftory of Mafter Bellamie holding* it unlawfull to fell grayer Bookes as the Anabaptifts in the Lord Majors fareWell of the late Lord Major, as fome ftories of Cretenfis, Mafter Bur- roughs and Mafter Burton of me,, the contrary unto them being the truth ; as a pa (j age in Mafter Dels Epiftle Dedicatory to the Houfe of Commons concerning Mafter Ley of the Affembly,mo(t falfe, as apajfage in Mafter Burtons Epiftle of his Conformities De- formity THE PREFACE. formity 'of the new LordMajor known to be untrue ;andfo I could go on with in ftancingin parages in Mafter Saltmarfh,Lilburne, and o~ tber fuch Bookj,manifeftly untrue-, and indeed of all the (lories- and matters of faft the Sectaries have in their Pamphlets in difgrace of the Presbyterians, I hardly know one true one, whereas the ftories re- lated by me of them, the mo ft of them are knowne to many, and are certain , and I have beene all along care full, as by my Reply to Cretenlis is evident. Fourthly , the Sectaries in their matters of fafi have fallen upon Prejbyterians with old matters many yeeres ago, be- fore P resbyterians,yea gone back^as farre almoft as to their childhood, as M 'after Price did to Mafter Bellamie, and Mafter Burton goes back to Bury ten yeeres before , to finde fcmething againft Mafter Calamie, and fo I might in ft am e in others, but I have confined my felfe within three or foure yeeres, and to the times fince they were Sc~ claries. Fifthly, the Sectaries have brought in againft Prejbyteri- ans matters of bodily infirmities, of their complexions and fuch like, m Saltmarfh in his pretended Anfwer to my Second Part of Gangra- na, upbraids me, faying, Your face and complexion fhowes a mod fadly parched, burnt, and. withered fpirit, but I have forborne thaty leaft 1 Jhouldreproach my Maker, for he that made me made them* Sixthly, many of the Sectaries in their writings againft the Prejbyte- rians, the Jffembly, godly Minifters , the Scots , and particular perfons by name, have done it in the mo ft fcornfull, prophane, blajphe- mous andabufive way, even to the abuftng of the Scriptures, the Spi- rit of Gody Preaching, ''Prayer , and other Ordinances, as ever was heard of in any age, witneffe The Arraignment of Perfecution , Martins Eccho, Cretenfis, and divers others, but in my Difcovenes of the Error srHereftes, Trail ifes of the Se claries, I have [hunned all fuch ivayes,fetting my felfe plainly to difcover the Errors and abominable Pratlifes, confuting them with Scriptures and Re af on, and in a feriom fad manner applying the danger of thofe evils to the con- ferences of all, both \Prefiyterians and Sectaries • and thus much for removing that ft one of offence out of the way, taken from the manner- and way of writing. 2.. Tor the matter ofthisBooke that there's a Truth in the Opini- ons , Stories , Practices related in itr notwithftanding the clamours andfpeeches of the Se claries, that they are lyes, all lyes , 1 defire the Reader to obferve and remember thefe following particulars : i . That the THE PREFACE. the Sectaries of onr time arefo Jbameleffie in this l^ind, as to fay all things written again ft themyare lyes: thus they have f aid the ft one s of the old Anabaptiftsin Germany written by Sleydan,Bullinger,Lam-* bertus Horteniius & other worthy men W 'ere lyes, and they Would not beleeve them ; fo Af after Saltmarfh in one of his Pamphlets a^ainfi Af after Ley denies the truth ofthofeflcries 3 and other Sectaries in pamphlets before him have f aid the fame , affirming if the King had over-corn? the Parliament, ftories would have made them' as bad as the asfnabaptifts, and the princes of 'Germany prevailing againfl themy fet men en workjofet them out fo , but all Was falfe ; NoW if our Se- ctaries Will fpeai^and Write thus of all the relations of the old Ana- baptifts , how can it be expected , but that they Will try aU doWne for falfe written of them f elves ? So our 'SeEiaries Will not beleive the ft o- ries of the aAntinomians ,Anab 'aptifls ', F ami lifts in New England, of Miftris Huchinfon and the reft, but fay all zs falfe, all lyes ; and feme -of them have cryed out of Mafter Wells bis Booke of the AntinomU ansofNcw England , as much as of mine. 2. The truth of the maine fub fiance and matter of this Booke both for opinions and mat- ters of fafi is in the "BooJ^e itfelfe, by quoting Books knoWne to hun- dreds, by 7taming of per fens knownefor Witnejfes,by relating of things common in the times , and thefe fet by the Errors in the Af argents , orjoynedto the matter, fo ma?ufeft that he that runs may read it , and rationally there can be no more que ft ion made of them , then Whether the Scots tooke New-Caftle5 the Parliaments Forces had a Victory at Nazeby Feild,there be fuch a man asM,Hugh Peters orjohn Lilburn. 3. That the Sectaries have ufed devices and found out inventions on purpofe to pojfejfe people that relations of things in my Books are falfe y When mo ft true \ as for inftance^fome Sectaries that have been of the fame name of thofe Sectaries that I have related ftories of ( though they could not but know by many circumftances and particulars in the ftories they were not themen but others ) have f aid, Ther's aftory re- latedofme^ I am the man he (peaks of and tis all falfe , for I was at fuch a place then and could not dofo: thus o?ie Webb an Officer in the_ Army did, telling the people in the Weft where he found Gangrana/ that the ft or y of Webb was of him , I am that Webb in Gangrana , and tis all falfe , I never preached fuch things, nor Was ever queftio~ ne dab out fuch things, or did fuch things related : This a godly Mi* nifter in the Weft of England tol4 m he heard 0#e Webb an Officer in THE PPvEFACE. in the Army Jpeak^thus to the people to pojfejfe them againft Gan- grcna ; Now I writ not of that Webb, but another Webb a younger man here in London .not one o\ * the Army f, who put out a 'Bccke for the vindication ofhimfelfe, where he confejfes mo ft: of the things ; and this other Webb could not but by many pajfages related, as of the age, as of being a Schoole-Mafter, at of the Chriftian name ^ and divers others but kxcfo ty ell enough I meant him not , and jet by this did he labour to hi aft my Book- Again fome who having beene mentioned in Letters Written up to fiends, and printed by me , have come to my houfe^denying peremptorily thofe things ftohen of them in the Letters, de firing to knoV? 'W'ho writ them that they might have Reparations , / having told them their names^Jr V? it ha 11 writing to thofe Mini ft ers to l?now more fully their grounds of fuch relations, they have returned me Anfwers, that thofe things tyere mo ft true,and they would make them good When ever they fjouldqueftion them 3 in which kind I could give divers notable pnftances 5 but the nature of 'a ^Preface not admitting . many, I will relate only cne^ namely of ' Ma fie r Maicaii of Dover Jpo~ ken of in a Letter fent from Dover fubfcribed by five hands to a .JWember of the Affembly , printed in the Second 7 art of Gangra?na rn p. 1 3 5 . of the Sec and Edition^ ho prefently after the coming forth of that eBook^> coming to my houfe ^with a friend cf his and mine for- merly y denyed pofttively and peremptorily what was Written of him in the Letter , declaring he \vas of another judgement then to fpeak^fo of our fAinifters and Synods as isexprefedin that Leaner, holding our godly Miniftersio have a I a\V full calling } and Synods to be needfully wherupon I Writing to one of the A&miftersail pa f ages that pa fed be- tweene us , anddeftring to know what he faid to it, he fent me this Anfwer ; c Worthy Sir , J received yotrr Letter dated June the 1 8, c but could not conveniently Anffrer it till now, bscaufe 1 would fee the " carriages of the Independents on Lift ^ednefday When we chofe cm * Elders. What Xve wrote of 7\4 after Mafcall Xve can cleare, and will c maintaine and much more ; and according to your advice you Jhall s not faile of fuffcient teftimony if that Letter be crowed: whereM he * faith that he holds our godly Minifters to have a topfull calling , he 1 ^Pillmtfay it in Dover, till he have dftinguifbed the word godly in- -' '"toajbadow : For his faying they never k^t C lurch-meetings in ' time of the pub lick? exercifes, its a very fafe untruth , and for hvj c feeming to accord with m in our account of Synods, he kywm that \\>e 'hold THE PREFACE. £ hold it a duty to combine Churches , and to have a combination rule * the Elders and P aft or of a Congregation , which we know they \\>M ' never allow. Thus much in breifefor Af after Mafcall who I dare 4 fay will not challenge any man in ~Do\er>for that that is done again ft c him j or if he doth, will find as ready an Anftoer as ever man received c by man* Your loviug friend and Brother, June 29.1646. Mich. Porter. And thus much for the Fir ft generall head , concerning the manner and matter of this Book. For the Second, the commending fome directions , and taking off > fome mifconftruBions and cavils , for the better under /landing of the fubjetl matter and manner of this Booke let the Reader obferve and confider thefe following : I* That the Sectaries run fuch around of all opinions, as that they are come to hold many Popifh and Prelaticall opinions , and to %o upon theTapifts grounds and mediums for many of their Tenets , which in the Error sfPofttions and Praclifes reckoned up in this 'Booke the Rea- der may obfierve,as the 5, 6, 7, 36 Errors ; nay there's almoft no To- pifb or Prelaticall principle and Error , but many Se claries are fallen into it, ayid in thepraflife of it , as being againft the Terfeclion, Suf- ficiency, Perjpicuity of the Scriptures, being for Tope "Toleration and a Dijpenfation for want of an Infallible fudge ,as thePapifts are for the Pope upon that ground , denying preaching to be the word of ^od and the fer vice of God as much or more then ever any of the Prelates did , being for Mufich^, Organs, Hymns in the pub lick^Aftemb lies , hold- ing anointing the fick^ with Oyle , maintaining Perfection in this life With fome Topifh Friers , be fides divers other Topijh Errors'. C A b ^€nce dlVers Popifh * Bool?es written by Treifts and Friers have beene Cardinall C«- T ran fiat ed and lately fet forth by fome Seclaries, fold openly , andl fanm , The foppofe Licenfed becaufe the Stationers names for whom printed , and third part of ^Printers names exprejfed. the Rule of 2# >jrhe Reader fhall find in this "Booke the Sectaries T>efigne and ^Cao ^cVan c^ra^lfi^ not t0 be only corrupting Religion , running out into extra- Friar Another vagancies and ftrange conceits that way , but to be againft Adagiftra- bookc written cy and Chill Government, their defigne of oppofingfetled Government, by a Preift and bringing an Anarchy and Confufion into Qhurch and State, being here THE PREFACE. Imefi fully hid open that they who run may readit • lis in this Boo^ unv ailed and the w ^ing nfthis fpirit in a U forts of Se&aries and places c/e arly m wife fed : they have in Termini s in divers Pamphlets and/ante S-crmons declared againft Monarchic andArifioeacie^ andforDemocracie thy have expre (fed tbemfehes in fuch a manner concerning t ha f,r hat they mjfa it me other then an Anarchie^ mating all alihe^ confounding of alt ranch and order r, vedxtcingatt to Adams time and condition and devol- ving aII power up'-n the fate VtdvvfaU and promifems multitude, whom they mah the Creator and Uejlroyer of Kings y parliaments and all Magi fir at es at there meere pie afire? without tying them to any rule , or hounding them by any LawZs. 2. I doe more punUuaUy and particularly give the proofes cf the Errors and Here pes named in this 'third Part then in the two former ^ with Animadverfions by way of Confutation or Obfervation tpm more of the Errors and Pra&ifes then t did before , as having becm dtfired by fome fo to do^ and being that which 1 judge will m^k* the work^ more profitable* and the Reader fbill finde t':e p-cofs of the Errors fet in the Mar gents juft by them, and the Animadverfions unier every particular Error , or elfe of divers of them put in one where the Errors are more of a kind; and the Header n>$ finde I have in all Books q otedall alongyto prove the things 1 charge the Sitl tries with, dealt very punctually and faithfully, and I challenge them to namean'j one thing quoted falfey or wrefled among fo many 5 and for other Re htions I have them from fuel) kgowne godly Minifers andChrifiians being eare and eye witneffes of them 3 that I cannot eafily be deceived: tiipoffble Jome circumfiances of ordiry time, place^number^may in [owe f tries be mi fallen, and yet the maine fiorie true, as we fee in Hiftories of battles and other humane things thty of- ten are (though 1 know none fnch} and have heene in all circumfian- ces as well at fub fiance, as f nth full and care full at a man can well be) and lean fay iti that of all the particulars in this kind that J have related in thefe three Eokt , be fides many matters of fall in Anta- pologia. (wbrhin all amount to fome ihonfands') 1 do no: krzowof any one particular related by me (excepting one^ that I have reajon to fufpe& wis not true, and yet that was written me in a Letter ly a Reverend and godly M'mifer and was the voice sf the Country , and all J did was only priutingt hat Letter ^nootherwije affrmmgit ; which particuhr^when the untruth of it Jhah be mide apparent to ms from the man himfelfi THE PREFACE. ar hisfreinds, I fhallbe ready, and have offered it to fome who have fj'oken of it, to right himpublickly in print. £. Whereat fome Letters W'ntpen to my felfe, or fome other Mi- nifiers are printed in this Booke , Which have fome faff ages in them cafiing honor and praife tiponms, refembling me to feme Worthies in their times, as Luther/i^r. for which 1 may- be cenfured, as bein^ the hand& instrument ofpubliflnng my own praifes ; and counted vain- glorious ; I do by way of taking off this exception defire the Readier to confider thefe things* Firfi, that I have left out of Letters many paff ages which re feci honour on my felfe, confiantly faffing by fuch "Titles, Epithites, and other exprejfions that*are matters of praife in all particulars, excepting the jtfitfyingofmy Vrorkjn writing thus a- gainfi the Se claries. Now my iooks for the manner and way of wri- ting having beenefo cried out of by all the Sectaries : and ?nany Weak^ Chrifiians, by their means s, having beene alfo offended;. I thought it neceffary to print fome parages of Letters from godly JMinifiers giving tefiimony to my 'Books, and approving me m the way of my writing them, juftifying me by the p rati if e of Morney,PlefIeus a- gainft the ^PapiBs, and of Luther; and the judicious Reader Jhallfnd if he obferve, I print no other paffages thai mayfo much as reflect a- ny kjnd of praife upon my felfe, but only thofe thatjufiifie my under" taking in this kind againfi the Sectaries-, and which the Lord knowes 1 print not fo much for my felfe, or my owne praife , but for the fakes of others, that they may be fat is fed of my Books againfi all the ca- lumnies cafv upon themy.and profit by the reading of them. Second- ly >T 'is not unknoVvne how the Sectaries by writing and freaking have- fet t hem fe Ives to difparage me 7 and to cafi /comes of all kinds upon me, fuch as hardly ever were upon any man in any age , and all to . weaken my efteeme, credit and authority With the people^ that being looked upon as a manfo weakjhat a Yeoman can anfwer my writings, And that I know not h/)Vv to put the Nominative Cafe and Verb toge* ther, &c. all I do againfi the Sectaries might be flighted as not wor- thy to bc.looked upon: Now it being apparent this is the defigne of the Sectaries ■, and their mafter peice,andGod by his providence Without my fe eking in the lea fi, ft ir ring up many learned men to bearwitnefs to my works in Letters to their Freinds, which have beene brought to me, and in Letters writ to my felfe, I fuppofe I may in fuch a cafe without thecenfure of vain-glory print fach tefiimonies to counter- balance THE PREFACE hallance the defliftngs And [comings of the Sectaries -• yea, if I had :gone further ', and printed not only paffages jvflifying wy tvork^ but what they had exprefled of me in other kinds, confiderwg how the Se- ctaries vi/ifie me, I might have beene excufed: Saint Paul a humble and mode fl man, yet when by falfe Teachers he Was in his per f on, pre fence and Jpeech among the people prefented Wea\ and contemptU hie, to the end his miniflery might be made ineffectual!, he Would not be are it, but takes off all thofe things, enters into a commendation of himfelfe, fhowing he Was e quail With the very cheifeft Apo flies, and JpeakJ of his owne knowledge and gifts, and /peaks that in this cafe he was compelled to glory, 2 Cor. 10. 10, it, 12. 2 Cor. it. 5. 6. r<5. 2 Cor. 12. 1 1, 12. And in fitch a cafe as this if Cafuifls be confnl- ted With as Amefius, &c* they conclude that credit and a good re- Araefius/^.c 'port may not only be maintained, but fought for, viz, for the glory of dc Covfc* c. 14, Godyandthat we may by our w>ork^ and example profit others the more by that meant* 5. Whereas in my 'Bookjhere are many Relations of Sectaries in the Army, fome paffages in Letters ff caking of the Army, and fome things [poken by my felfeythat fome may take to reflet} upon the Whole as4rmy,Idefire the Reader to under fland aright that nothing related by me, though written by others , or fpoken by iny felfe is meant of the whole Army, or the greater pdrt of it, but only of that part of the Army-, viz. the Se claries in the Army : I acktioWlege the NeW Modell under Sir Thomas Fairfax hath done gallant fervice againfl the enemy , and did the great efl and be fl fervice s when it had not fo many Sectaries at it hath ndW, and my intent is not in the leafl to cafl dirt upon the Army , but only to relate JLrrors and infolencies of a part of the Army : The Seclaries0Who though but a part, and much the Ie(fer,may be fomtimes in difcourfe or writing catt'd the Army, v\l* in that fenfe as the Independents Crying up the Army in Pamphlets andSermons ufe thewordArmy fay ing,here's an Army , the army hath- done thus, when they medn by the Army , and 'exprejfefo much in other ipords the Independents and Savntsin the arm),fo do I When Ijpeak^ in atiy place of the hurt the Army doth0 or the Errors there I under" fland not the Army, but the S Marcs in it, 6, tVhereai in tbn Bother e )th ttiiriy pajfiges thrtSe&jries may be likely enough to interpret a jlrikjng at tht ^parliaments casing reproach upon thmt &ndmoti particularly upon the Honorable Houfe of Com. )( 2 mom$ THE PREFACE, nms 5 J da here dsclire and profeffe agrinfi-any fuch mi fcon fir uttions r9 or confluences ,it being not my intent to refit cl either upon both Hon fa ascmju/.cl, or upon each at confidered difiin&, or upon the Committees of either Houfe, the mofi that can be drawm is, that fome paffages in Letters or Relations flow there are feme particuhr Members that are or favor SeUaries, which in writing jo much of the &-# 'arses (as 1 do) for the good of the Parliament and the Kingdome cannot poffibly be avoided, (though I forbear the naming of \nr deciphering any of them) and that there are fome fuch crept into the Parliament all the Kingdome hpowes and ffeafy of it, and therefore 1 meddle not to fyeak? againfi the Hottfis jn all my Difcourfe, neither do 1 infinuate any thing in the leafi to bring the people cut of love with Parliaments , or this Parliameue % I for- mally declare Jea$ any fiould mifiake, tvs the peoples great interefi and bhjfmg to have the power amd Prhikdges of Parliament main* tainedy and they muft taly heed they be not fo difcontented with mifcar- riages of any particular Members or Committees that'may fall out, as to fet losfe in their beans from Parliaments and defert. them* Parlia- ments are the firong Boundaries of the exorbitanciei of Princes and #3* their Minifters • they have by tie conftitution of the Kingdome and the Lawes , power more then fufficient to refiratne the Tyranny of Princes, and to correli their great eft Fwourits and Officers of St ate , let the people once to fe Parliaments and be out of love with them, and then farewell all Liberty, Property, and flavery will come in like an armed man • and that nothing in my Bool^ can be againfi the Honora- ble Hatffes, (however fomep articular Members may be gvilty of fome things J fyeak^of , and that party wre fling my words to fuch a fknfe to waki f^s Parliament offended wit htm) yet that there can be no fitch t hing, I defire thefe things may be considered \ i . 1 do dt induftria and at large difc over and write againfi the Se&aries for Jpeal^ng and writing againfi the Parliament, againfi the Houfe of Lords and Com* mons,and do plead and contend for the power of both' Houfes, both hi matters of B.eligion and civill tUngs, againfi the Sectaries, and there- fore J cannot be thought to do any thing againfi them , but for them, 2. That in fteaking fometimesof the Houfe of Commons, I pake not poptively that they do fo, or u[e fuch words \of them as mine, or bring fuch Arguments as if 1 owned them, but §ea\ the SeElaries words, and fhow what followesupon their grounds againfi the pwerof the Houfe of Commons. 3, For any paffages in Letters or Relations - J that THE PREFACE. that mayfiem to have any reference to one or both Houfes of Parliament , aifpiakjng again ft any under them imphyedin Military or CiviU affaires, or an\ other matter J. meddle nit with tbofs paffages at all as to juflifieor affert them^ but do only barely relate and print them ; and for no other end but that the body tf both Houfes may hpow that which nuy be they hwe not bzard of, viz. fucb a dangerrus man imphyed in their fervicey fuch infoleucies committed by men vndtr their pay , and may know the Countries fenfeefjucb and fuch things 5 how ill tis taken fuch wicked men fbould bee implied and may prevent in time the mifchdfs and evils which may grow out of fucb things and the difconicnts that may be occafiomd thereby. Fourthly I doe with fulmffion conceive that fir a Miniflera known friend and fervant of the Parliaments in a refpe&ive way {not in a reproaching reviling way) to make known to the P arliamept what ttebeji ajfdledfay and write tofiimds of fuch and fuch rarticu- lar/9 as the fujfering, yea preferring of all forts of SeBarits, at the not fettling Religion in fo long a timey as the letting freinds wane long be- fore they can have their Petitions received, as about the EhUions offome new Members, as about the carriage of many Sectaries in the Army^&c+ is f> farre from fpcaJzing agawfl the Parliament or becomming their enemy, that tis one of the greateft and faithful'efi fervices can be dont them, and whatever paffages 1 may have printed in any of thefe , or any other oft bis kind J conceive tis highly for their Je) vice yt hat thy may know what hurt the Sectaries doe them, and how the Kingdome takes things • and truly next to the glory of God, the great thing that moves me to write as 1 doe of the Setlarizs, is the great dammage and prejudice that comes to the Parliament by thetn^ that as Hefter faid of Haman to Ahazuerus. the enemy could not countervaite the Kings dammage. So the Sectaries doings all the Kingdome over in all kind of Mechanic fes preaching , in making tumults and riots in (fburches, in driving away godly Minivers, and venting all kind of ahominablt opinions does fo much wrong to the Parliament in the Countries feve* rallwayes, that they can never countervaile the Parliaments dammage andlofje^ and 1 have related fitch things for no other end, but to let them know fo much', and 1 could wifh both Houfes bad read all paffages in Letters fint from fever all parts of the Kingdome , and from beyond SeastoLoudon,whichlhave fecneof this nature, as what ill bloud thefe things breed^W how becaufeof the St&arienhey lofe a peice. in the hearts of their beft freinds, with many other paffages which I forbear? THE PREFACE. Iforbeare now to relate. The Parliament upon many of the kicked doings of the Sett: aries, as baptising a Horfe , making uproares in Churches :, $h* m^ ta% up a like fpeech which Jacob faid to Simeon and Levi , Ye have troubled me to make me to ftinck among the Inhabitants o/the Land : You have troubled us , to make us to lofe the hearts of many well-affected people in City and Country 5 and thereby encouraged the common enemy to be ready to ga~ ther them] elves againft us again \and We being few in number, in dan* ger to be deferred of the people by reafon of you^wejballbe deflroyed and our Houfc. 7. whereas feme of the Sectaries in their Pamphlets , as M after Walwyn and others have often inftnuated that I have pre ached and written fo much againft theSettaries out of Tolicy+S uper ft ition^vor Id- ly and felfe Inter eft to maintain my owne Covetoufneffe , Ambition , deftre of Domination, diftintthn betneene Clergy and Laytie^out of a fpirit ofoppofttion andPerfecution againft confeientiom and peace- able men ( all Which they have done out of a deftgne to blaft my books Among many ^Whok^oW me not , not knowing otherwife how to anfwer them) I do therefore that I may countermine the Sectaries in this and take of the fe prejudice sy declare as in the pre fence ofCjod, 1 never have% nor do appeare againft the Sectaries and Errors of the times from any of thefe principles , but from a z>e ale of the glory of Cjod and his *Trut\ and that founded upon knowledge and fe arch , a compajfton to the Souls of 'poore people deceived , and the dij charge of my duty and Confcience as a Mini ft er of the Gofpel * and as for thofe other of Po+ lidy ,S 'elf- inter 'e ft ,&cjhey have never fallen fo much as under my con* fultation, unleffe that I have confidered andforecaft that 'What I was doing in writtingfuch a fiool^andfuch a Bookwas againft all Tolicy^ Self-Intereft, and the ready way ( as the times were and are ) to run the hazard of the ruine of my felfe and my family, and that What I write is truth, and the Sectaries ftieeches ajperftons , / deftre the Rea- der to obferve tfofe following particulars, dnddd challenge all the Se- Baries to dijprove any one particular if they can. 1. Many years a* go when T Was perfecuted by feme Prelates and their Creatures, in no pofftbility nor capacity by my principles and practices \of * preferment^, (as the be ft of the Independents Wt *li 'know ) 1 pre ached againft > and upon all occaftons declared my fe If againft the BrdWnifts, Separatifts , ^Antinomians and all Errors in that way > M Well as againft Popifi Innova* THE PREFACE. Innovations and Arminian Tenets. There are many Who Were my Au- ditors in thofe times can and will witnejfe what I have preached at London and at Hartfo rd aginfi thofe Errors y When I have in the fame places preached fuch Sermons again ft the prevailing Opinions In- novations and Corruptions of the 'Prelates ,that mafiy thought Ifhowld never have preached again ; and indeed wot not^without manifoldfuf firings and troubles, being put out of places .flopped ftom coming ini o others t and at lafv Letters miffive With an Attachment fent out to bvim me into the High Commijfion (fourt, About tbirteene years a- go <# Magnus Church I preaching again fl forfaking the Public^ Af- fcmblies , had on a Letxure night at the fame (fhurch a Bill given me up (among the Tills to pray for the fickf) [pealiing bitterly forfo doing. At Hartford about 10. years ago, when Independency and the Church way began to befallen too byfome men of Note andfome people to look^ after it ,1 preached again ft it earely, and by all way es laboured to pre- ferve the people* About 8. yeares agoe When Errors on the right handtooke With many, I didat a LsUure in the (fity at Alderman- bury, and Coleman-ftreet freach a gain fi aslpoftafte and falling to Errors on the right hand , and more particularly at Cokman-itreet, ( many in that par ijh being then leaning that way ) gavefome cenflde- rations againft Errors on the right hand, and Warned the people of the White Devill s quoting a faying of Mafter Cartwright out of the Proverbs, and AI after Brightman out of the Revelations againft lea- ving the Church of England , and Mafter John Goodwin was then Well pie afed with my Sermon that he gave me great thanks, i.l never yet fought any great things for my f elf, great livings , or coming into ptiblicke places of honor and rejpett, to be of the Ajfembly, or to preach in any publicke places before the Alagiftrates either at Weftminfter or London , but have contented my felfe withfmall meanes , and to preach in private places in comparifon 3. having refufed many great- livings and places, preaching here in Londoner a little, and that but badly paid (as many well know) minding the worhe andfervicer little the maintenance. I canfpeakjt truly that in thefe open times when manyycuna men^ raw preachers, men who never bore the heat of the day , have got (treat Livings of two or three hundred a yeere Well fauated with houfes md all accommodations , 1 have for the pub lick^ good declined all fuch *jfcrj,/pent. my owne Wmpor all e fate to minifter to my neceffities^ not having THE PREFACE, having had for almofl thefc tWolaffiyeers 40.//. per Knvmm,notWith- ftandingmy constant preaching on Lords dayes , weekday es and all extraordinary cccafions of Fa flings and thankef giving : 1 have beene billing to forfakt my fameffe and fweetncffc, to ncglecl my profit, health, benefit of my Familie, all advantages, and in a fort to fie- yucfter my felfe from freinds,andall Worldly enjoyments to {pend my time, ftrengh, Jpirits, eft ate, and all in reeding, Writing, ftudy'mg of the Contr over fie of the fe times, having prepared many Tractates againfl- the Errors of the times ; zAnd as for Domination and of- fering of Rprfe and Government , I have little meddled in that hind, beene at few meetings of that nature, and do profeffe I am fo farre from being- ambitious in that way , that 1 fhould account it a ere at happinefje to have a call to a place only to preach and write , and a yeerely Penfionfor the maintenance , rather then Tyths. Thirdly, I began to write my Gangrenaes^d have continued to write on (fince. Which time I have beene accufed to do all out of policie, worldly in~ terefp) in the times of the groWth and raigne of the Sectaries, when they have beene in their great eft poWer and mo ft formidable, able to fit on the skrrts, and to crt/ftj thofe who have oppofied them (of which there are many inflames, Which I well kneW) and to preferre and ho- nor t lofie Who adhered to them ; and yet in finch a time have I Writ again ft them, and more and more laid them open, Which certainly could be no policie, worldly inter eft, but piety and duty to appeare info cpen a maimer againfl the rifing fide : 1 Well knew the Sectaries ftrengh, policie, aclivnes, and how England was a bad Aire at that time and ft ill is for zealous Prefbiteriaus to thrive in, much might be loft by it, but nothing gained ; I under flood the f aith full Wit neffes had not yet put off their fiackcloch; had I indeed written againfl the Secta- ries when they had beene on the declining hand, and caft out as the Bi- Jhops, when all men in high places had turned their hand againfl themy this might have beene interpreted policy, wordly Inter eft , but to do it in a time When the Se claries hadfo many friends in high places, fuch an influence upon our Armies, (f ounce Is, &c. fo many for them in Cir ty and Country, I beleive no Wife man who confiders it will call it Self- fee kin £ or 'Policy : I may fay in this cafe 04 Job in another , Is there any tafte in the white of an Egge ? So, is there any Policy in what I have done ? 4. I have beene fio farre from getting any thing by my open and came ft appearing againfl the Seels, that I have fiujfered and loft THE PREFACE /oft much, and- 'am expofedtoM forts of^drdj'dnd.ddngen :fa -fe > do- ing ; ■ tbeleevs I' have fuffered more in my naWc §* Ejtue , lojfe oj Friends, &c. then any Setlariein 'Eng\m& hath done, for maiyit aid- ing and (breading h-s Errors. \couldhdve beene the darling of the Sectaries in regard f my former Intereft and acquaintance with iHany of them fo I w mid but have held my peace dnddone them no hurt ( though I had not beene theirs ) I could have hddmore friends among the "Treftyt'erian party to have beene more moderate (at they call it) (for fuch a time have we fallen into of LukeWarmnejfe , and fa- vvurof Sectaries ,that the being earneft againft them hath made fome rtho-goefor Trefbyterians not to owne me at otherwife they would for feare of bein and be fides What I have fujfered and toe fuffer , 1 looke upo?i my felfe at expofedto many dangers and Offerings, running a great hazard in this undertaking : I J^now there are fome defter ate men a* mong them like the (fircumcellioncs among the cDonatifts , and what may not they doe, ifGodreftrain.them not : I am not ignorant what aftrongparty they have , what a proud generation they are impatient of all contradiction and being crojfed , to whofe She \afe they thin\all «J^j Sheaf es Jhouldbow 9 nor What a fubtiie mdlitious revenge full people C 3 ™*i THE PREFACE, they are y I amfenfible what t is at this time to lay them thus open9 e- ven as much as to catch an angry Lion by the beardj and to flop him in. his way roaring after his prey ', or as to meet with a chafed^ ear e rob- bed of her whelp : and therefore in fte ad of once dr earning of world- ly inter eft ythe favour of men ^ I have laboured to prepare my felf for perfections and troubles ,toforecaft the worfi,, having fet god and hid Truth for my helpe- which are fironger then alL 5. I have beene fo fkrre from Policy , Selfe-Intereft in wrightlng againft the Sectaries ,. that I was never guilty of thefe. things in any way! ever appeared for: I'never Vtas the man fivcel-came to years of underftanding that ever put the queftion- which was the ftrongefi and the rifing fide (they never fell under my deliberation) but which wm~ the good fide for God and; h'is'Truth , that was enough to merl looked to that and never trou- bled my thoughts about rifing or great things in the world, as never expelling them ; and in my adheringto one party or fide before am~ ther , I have ft ill done it but fofarre as they have -beene for God -and *^n-K hisTruth % freely declaring my felfe at the fame time! hazuebeetie- Quod autem theirs > againfi therein they have die lined, from the Truth and way Quiminus e- of God. 6. Where ai > the SeB arie s £ aft 1> olicy, worldly -\nter eft ><&c. iufquc focius uponme, they themf elves are moft faulty in-this kind ;. and if the In* sx Sartonbus dependents Churches and LeUiires with other their worldly Interefts Doctore* a 1 yero?npared{withmitte y their hundreds with' my fcores, their applaufe mutftti fum^id temgeryedup) with my being cryed downe, their uvingmpompe and in caufa fuir, feaftingalmoft every day, with my (lender diet, their e of e with my la- quod delicate bours, it will be found many of them fell to be Sectaries oMofambiti- fcraolliterY^ ^ 0^ profit,, and that they might live eafily. * CzWm in hisln~ neTfibi tuiL flrH^on ^g^ft Libertines feowes the reafen why Quintinus and his rent labores companions of Taylors became DoBors were fo changed, that they- convsnkc. ^ might live delicatly andeafily , and not be put to labour for their Li- Propterea c.6- vingSXThey thought it better for them that as the Pricfts and Monks no ^exiftima- Sot ^eir L™mgs ty chanting, fo they by prating ; andfo no queftion runt utquem- one great re of on of many Mechanic's turning preachers and Dippers- admodum la- is, becaufe they may leave working and live delicatly and idely by go- cerdotes & ingfrom (fountry to Country preaching. And indeed inftead ofanf 7onaChVcT~- Minifters or people oppofing the Sectaries out of 'Policy , worldly In- fi garriendo X thefts , tis evident tis the high way to fame gainfull ^lace or &tk r te tarn cjusr e - become A Setlarie or to favour them , hundreds turning Independents mu. andSetlaries meerly for preferments md V laces 3 as heretofore men turned THE PREFACE. turned Frelatical,and Armlnians becaufie of great Livings; and hofy the Independent party have feathered their nefls , got well for them- felves above other men , the Reader fihall find more fpoken of it in this lloQkcJ'Asfor that which is f aid I write fo agamft the Sectaries out of afbirit of perfecution and hatred of peaceable confciencious men J can fay truly yif I perfec itte confcienciom peaceable men , W1 horn do 1 then love ? my love, delight andintereft ts infuch, and I am fo far from a fbirit of perfecution, that 1 would be glad but to find the fame mea- fure from Independents, Brownifts , Anabaptifis and others y which I wouldmeafure unto, them if it were in my po\\*er, namely I would not imprifonr banifh them andfuch like, only hinder them from all places of power andtruft in the Kingdome, and from ff reading their Errors and Opinions to the hurting of others >keep the unfoundfrom the found, which If I differed in judgement from What was eftab.lifbed in aChurch, and had nothing elfe done to me, 1 fhould never conplaine ofperfecuti" on and violence for that \f or tis abfolutely newjfary for the peace and welfare of the civ ill State, be fides what tis for the honor of God, in the preventing the ^reading of all Errors and Herefies. <±And for a conclufion of this I have the clear and full tefiimony of my confidence, that my appearing again fl the Sectaries hath not rifen from any fuch bafe and poor e grounds as the Sefiaries a/ledge .but from afcnfe of my. duty that I might Vcitnejfe to the truth ofiCjod in thufinfiull and adul- tzrotu generation, And now to draw to a conclvifion of this "Preface^ nothing that hath yet be fallenme of fcandals , reproaches yand other fufr ferings, or that jhall further befall me in this way, of 'Books fet out a- gdn$~lme,of per fiecutions and troubles to bonds, imprifonments^loffe of eftate fhail{the grace of God affiflingme) turn me out of my way of conjiantly opoofwg the Sectaries, fo long as they go on in t iuir way, but when they for my writing again ft themfhall fyea\ again ft me as mnjt vile and abominable 9 / jball anfwer them as David, It w.ts for the Lord that I have done it, and I will be yet more vile then thus, and though every day, nay hour in the yeer fhould bring forth (ome boQ^again^ me,as bad at Balthazar Paein.ontanui writ agamJiZxxm^L. and Bolfecmagainfi Cal vin , y el for my part J^hall befo far from being troubled , that I Jhatt take all t ho ft bo> £r as }obfpcaksiand bind them as a crown to my head3 . nay if all the Setlariei in England were combined againfl me , and there wet e as many. of them as tiles upon tbihoufes in the Q'uy, and every me of thefe Sectaries w:re a Dev ill, yeahad a legion of Devils {as l beleeve fome of them are poffefjed roith many)y it i would go on against them 5 andif the §ettarie<, ftould be able Qutoftbx Boofaor any other tota\e advantage of my \ealc, faitbfulneffe and plain* neflc of (pint 3to m.ike fomethingof fome words to stir up the C'wilpowers to trouble [ ] r me. THE PREFACE we, yet for alt that I fhaUnot ?Jve them over, but write fo much the more , paint them oui,pray,§ea\ again{l their Errors , and if God fhonldgiic mefo met hi it- hands as to be able to dealewith me as the Papists did wuh feme if the wit. ne(fes cf the truth, yet I aw confident ibcyftould baiix'i cauje to ri]iyce, but I Jhould overcome even in that, l^eSim^Coa lyll wore Thiifiims by my death then ■ by my life, and I many Brethr en would waxs more boldto preach and write againfi » tkm» and out of fry afhes fhoiddayife tmfe \\h? jhould farther difover themd\n-cx» the SeUarianfa uion mufl be dejtroytd .W/*?//, Babell mufi come djwnc as weU & |-*» Baby Ion, 75-77>78> * Copies THE TABLE. Copies of Letters written from Hol- land or New-England concerning fome Errours, and Pra&ifes, p. 94.168,169. A Relation of fome opinions of a Lievtenant of a Company in the Army, p. 22. A Relation of fome words fpoken by aColonell in the Army, and ano- ther of the Army concerning Ire- ldrtd} p. 2 3 . A Relation of the fouldiers preaching in Oxford , and in the pub like fchooles, p. 23.. A ftory of a SecTarie that would not be married by a Miniileras holding it unlawfull, and afterwards when he had lived with her calling her of, and denying fhe was his wife , p.24. A Relation of fome words and fpee- ches of Sectaries againftthe Scots, Alfembly, Miniftery, City, the late Lord Mayor, p. 24. 25. A Relation of a ftory of Mr. Jenmy > and Mrs. Attaway, and of Letters fent her from a Prophet, and his Doctrine of generall Reftanration, and of Efaus world , and Jacobs words. p. 26.27. A Relation of a Seclarie holding that the Parliament muft give the King- dome , that is both England, Scot- land and Ireland co the. Saints, p. 28. 2p. A Relation of a Troope of Coloneil Riches Regiment preaching and dipping in Wales 3 and of a wo- mans dying within a day or twa after being dipped by him, p.3 j0 A Relation of a Minifter hearing in a meeting of Sectaries one who ex- ercifed arfirme that lie was Jefus Chrift, and of the Minifters confe- rence with him about it , and his (landing in it that he was Chrift, p. 32. A Relation of fome fedhrian fouldi- ers affronting and difturbing a godly Mininifter in the Church , and of beating a man for gathe- ring Tythcs, p. 22. An Information from 2{orwicb im-. der the Mayors hand or a (he Secta- ry one Tr if cilia Miles, p. 3 4. 3 ^ . A Relation of one Sim- * Shoomaker of Hampton with his examination, (who goes about as an emiflfary all the Weft over ) being apprehen- ded by authority, p. 50. A Relation of M. Sickmoores bapti- zing fohnSims, p. 51. AnimadverfioKs by way of confutati- on on aLetter of a iTieSed:ary,p.6T. A Relation of feverall Portions laid down by M. Dell and preached be* fore the Generall, p. 63. A Relation of a ftory of one M. Ken- dall & great Sectary who hath re- nounced his MinHlry turned Cap- tain,when a godly Minifter was to preach he ftepped up before him, p. .70.80. I A Relation of a ftory of fome Secta- ries who refufe tokeepe Faft- dates ordaiesofThankefgiving, becaufe they THE TABLE. they will not give thanks for kil- ling men, who affirme they have feenChnit 'and the Devil!. p^Sc A Relation of a young maid of 16. yea as of age that preaches, p.lo. A Relation of a Minifter who boa- ftedhehad pulled downe the Bi- fhops, and hoped to do as much for the Presbyterians, p. Hi. A Relation of an Oiticer in the Army who was caihiered becauft hee would anfwerthe Sectaries when they fpoke for their opinions and againit the Presbyterians, p. Si. A Relation of icverall Sectaries trades-men turned Miniftcrs, and other Sectarian Minifters. p.8 1 . r A Relation of a Shoemaker of Co- \ ventry who goes about the Coun- try venting his erroneous points, p.^i. A Relation of one M. Downing* prea- ching at Hackney ■, cafting afperft- ons on the Common Councell of London , as if they were for the Cavaleers, p. g 1.82. A Relation of M-fejfe commending one Mary Abram to one M. Clarke of London to look to his houfe, and how (lie worked on his fon a young youth, and(being in an Apoplexy) to be married to her by an old fchoole-mafter, p. 82, 83. The Petition of Mr. Clarke to the houfe of Commons, p.83, 84. A Relation how Mary Abraham had before entangled an Apprentice, and though M. fejfc knew as much, yet he commended her to him, and how M. C/arko found a paper in his ions ehair.berof her agreement: with another young man, and he ihowing it to Mr. pjfe , he kept it and would not give it him againe , faying that this CMary ^Abraham hadconfefledhcrfin. p. 85* A Relation of a fcory concerning Henry Den fpoken of in the firit part of Gangr*na> and his exami- nation by a Juftice of Peace, toge- ther with the replies made by him- feife. , p. 85. 86, 87.. A Relation of a (lory concerning * fchoole-tmafter of Cjlocefter> who denies the holy Ghoft to be God , though he was dealt with by ail fairneffe to flicw him his errours, p. 87, 8& A Relation concerning one ^Andrei* Debman a Cooper , who can nei- ther write nor read, and yet is a great Preacher among theSedaries, p. 88. A Relation of a great Sectary whofe wife lay a dying, who being fpo- ken to, to pray for her, faid what good would prayer do her oc them, p. 88. A Relation of a Letter fent from Newcaftte by an In dependent ^edi- fying the faithfulncfle of the Scots to the King, p. 88. A Relation how that the godly Mi- nifters ofJ^ewcaftU are abufed and difcouraged by reafon of the Inde- pendents; and other great Sectaries * 2 CQH1C THE TABLE. come in their roomes, p. 89. 1 A Relation of a ftory concerning M \ 8r buries venting of divers Errours at a meeting, p. 89. 90. Animadverfions by- way of confutati- on of the Errors vented by M* J>- bury, p. 90, 91, 91. A Relation of one S\i Worts who would have had a place in Norfolk^ but being hindred he turned Inde- pendent. P-P5- A Relation of an old Anabaptift who would oft be drunk, and then bc- vvaile the blindnefle of the Church of England, P«95- A Relation of a ftory concerning a fouldier in the Army who went up . into the Pulpit againft the Mini- fterhis will, and being brought be- fore thejuftiee carried himfelfe dif- refpecl:ivcly,for whichJtie was com- mitted to prifon ..., and how relea- fed.. p-95,9^ A Relation of fome words fpoken by one againft the Armies going into Ire/and, p. 96. A relation of one P.otter a Smith now turned Preacher, who hath drawn many away to feparated meetings on the Lords day, p. &C. A Relation offome fouldiers that in- f ede dmanywhe re t h ey q u a r 1 c re d , and of their undecent carriage, A Relation of one fohn 'Durance and of his. fpeaking ftrangely con- cerning the King; and that there would be no peace in England.till there was agenerall liberty of conference, p. 96. 97. A Relation of one M. Larking a fierce Independent, p. 97. A Relation of a great Sectary who vented many erroneous things,and* doth a great dealc of hurt in Kent, p. 97. A Relation of one Brabfon a great Sectary who preaches much againfb Tithes, p. 97,98. A Relation of one fimwel! a defpe- rate Sectary, who hath put forth divers Pamphlets, p-'p2. A Relationof M.BUckwvodzn Ana- baptift, who printed a Book called theftormingofAntichrift, p.98. A Relation of what one M. Nicholas- 'Davifon who came from New- England, being required by the In- dependents to go to Guild-hall , faidtothem what hurt they did, and how divers Priefts turn'd Inde- pendent^ p. 98.99. A Relation of a young man a Prea- cher, who lived in Holland, con- cerning the carriage of fome En- gUih Se Varies there,and how fome of them gave thanks at their mee- tings for Toleration(which as they heard) had pailed the Houfe of Common^ and of their jaftifying M. Archers Book that makes God the .mthor of fin, faying they could (hew the copies of that, p. . ICO* A Relation of a ftory concerning a Captain, who (aid the fouies of she righ- _ THE TABLE. righteous go not to heaven , and his exposition on that place, Luke A 24. this day thou fhalt be with me in Paradice, p. ioc,ioi. ! Animadverfions on the faid expofiti- A on of the Captaine, p. ioi, 102. I A Relation concerning Mr. Batcheler LicenferGenerall of all the Secta- | ries books, pleading for all man- A ner of damnable Errours, p. 102, ! 103,104,105.' . A Relation of the names of fome no- ' torious Sectaries, p.ro>. A A Relation concerning one Carter* Sectarie. p. 105. A Relation concerning divers Secta- ries, M. Peters converts , and one M. Bunniard who will not keepe Faft-daies, but his foikeswork on theFafts, p. icj. A Relation concernirg one Oats a a Weaver, who was arraigned up- on his life for dipping one who dy- ed within 14. daies, and one reafo- ning with him ■ faying that Rebap- tization was the way to deitroy the creature, and the anfvver made by one, p. 105, io<5. A Relation concerning a Captaine who fpeake defperately againft the City Remonftrance, p. 1 c6. A Relation concerning fome of' the Sectaries that faid they would not tolerate the Presbyterians, p. ' A tc6. A Relation concerning aCaptain who preachcth on the Lords iaie* 2nd puts the Miniftcf by ' ( though a godly man) p. 107 Relation concerning a Sectary who faid Chrifts righteoufnelle was a beggerly righteoufnelTe. p. 1 07, Relation concerning a Sectary who affirmed Adultery and Drunken- nelTe to be no (in, and maintained divers other crrours, p. 1 07. Relation concerning divers Troo- pers in the Army that hold very defperate and divellrfh opinions, p. 107. Relation concerning M. Burroughs who fpoke againft the City for their unthankfuliielTe to the Army, and fpoke ftrange parages againft the City Remonftrance, p. 1 07, io£. Relation concerning M. Sjmonds of S 'andwich , who faid they {"hotilcl be damned that had opportunity to come intotheirChurch-way and would not, and of his foule fpeech towards a godly Mimfter, p.icB, ICO, Relation concerning fome Secta- ries in the Army, who faid , what hid they fought for all this while if the Prcsbyteriall Government be feciedj&c. ' p. no. Relation concerning one Qrab a dipper, who fpoke very difdain- fullyofthe King, p.nc. Relation concerning a Lievtenant a great Sectarie , who holds him- feife able to difpute with the whole AfTcmbly, he hath often preached in his fcarkt Cloake with iiivec tocc THE TABLE. lace, p. in. | A Relation concerning one Webb I who preached blafphemy, p. I ill. A Relation of a Manufcript made by ; fome of theMagiftratesofiW»'--E»- ! gland ( as it was thought) for an ; arbitrary Government in theCom- | mon- wealth. p.i 11,112. I A Relation ofa Sectary who married j a woman and went away from her, ! zn& will not live with her,and how ! the Church whereof hee is main- ', tains him in it, p. 112,113.1 A Relation concerning M. Saltmarjb \ preaching , and of ftrange things delivered by him, and howhefaid John 'Baptlfis Doctrine was a Lea- thern e Doclrine, p. 113,114. A Relation concerning Cretenfis and his Errors, withfome briefe Anim- -adver(ionsonhis38. Queries, and Opinions,. p. 114,115,116, 117,118,119,120. A Relation concerning M. Peters re- lating many of his fpeeches and paflages in his Sermons , together with an anfwer to a Pamphlet of M. "Peters entituled, M. Peters Uft Report of the Englifi Wars, from page 1 20. top. 147. A Relation of M. Treakc, and of opi- nions that beholds , and of fome Articles put up againft him, p. 147, 148. A Relation concerning Richard Over- ton who hath printed many fcanda- lous things againft the Houfe of Peers, and many defperate Pam- phlets fcorfing and fcorning of them, and his behaviour to the Houfe of Commons and his ill fpeech of the Minifcery, p. 148. 149,^0,151,152. A Relation concerning John Lilburn an Arch-Sectaric who hath printed divers defperate Pamphlets abufing the Houfe of Lords and divers o- thers, P-i>3>i54,i5)>i56. 1 57>i 1 8,159,160. A Relation concerning John "Trice , M. qoodrmns Difciple, and of fome of his opinions, p. 160,161,162. A Relation of Mr. fradocl^ and of fome things he hath preached, p. 162. x\nimadver(ions on fomething prea- ched by M. Sympfin at Blac^Frj- ers9 p. 163. The Relation of a ftory of the beating of a march of a Drum heard in the Chappell of Duckjngfield by the Independents at a meeting there , withAnimadveriions on that fto- ry, p. 164,165. A Relation of a Petition on foot by fome Sectaries for a Toleration, p. 166, 167. A Relation of a ftory of one Andrew frtke, p. 169, 170. A Relation of a ftory of Katherine Chidley and her fons being at Bury in Suffolke, and of Gaffer Lmceter of cBnry% and his Pamphlet enti- t uled L waters Lmnc^ p. 1 70. 171. THE TABLE. A relation of a Quarter-Mafters prea- ching-, and of his telling the peo- ple he had a command from the fpirit to preach and was under the command of the fpirit, p. 175. A Relation of words fpoken by a Captain in the Army concerning the decolling of the King, p. 172. A Relation of a Trooper in North- hamptonjhiere ftanding up in the Chureh,and fpeaking to aMinifter, queftioning his Doctrine, as alfo fomefouldiers wounding a Mini- | f fters fon in that County, p. 173. i A Relation of a Captaine fpeaking how they would come againfl: the City of London , if the Ho life of, Commons {hould give order fo to ; do, p. 174. A Relation of a Sectary faying of the I Ordinance of • Tythes the Parlia- ! ment made an Ordinance to rob | men , and calling thofe Thecves j and Robbers who executed it, and ! of his arrefting the Juflices of ! Peace and the Diftrainers, p. IT'. A Relation of an Independent Com- th p. 17^,17(5,177.178. A Relation of the true Reafon, why breaches have been prevented in the Army, there being fo many Sectaries in it, namely the grca*: forbearance, patience, the patting by provocations and abufes, p. 179,180, A Jollification of that paffage in the City Remonftrance, that no Secta- ries (hould be in places of pubiike trift, and what fome of the Inde- pendents opinions was of that heretofore as mod equal 1, p. 180, 181. and a laying open the neceffi- ty of the Remonftrance taking place in that , and what if no Ju- itice nor good can be expected , p. 181,182. A Relation of a Difcourfe between z Citizen and an Independent con- cerning the King, and of the Inde- pendents interpretation of the Covenant concerning that part of it, of defending the Kings Perfon3 p. 183,184, A Relation of the Libemnifme and Atheifme of the Sectaries. p„ 185,18^187. mander,declaring they were againfl: A Relation of the many kinds of un Independent Government as well as Presbyteriail, if it fhould be fet- tled, they were for liberty of con- fcience that no man {hould be tied to anything, ' P-i7v Animadverfionsona Libellous Pam- phlet entkuled, The Lord Mayors farewell from his 0$cc ef CWajoral- cleannefles of the Sectaries, as In- ce(t,&c. p.187,188, A Pvelation of the dniRkcnnefle of the Sectaries. p. 190,191, A Relation of the loofeneffe ©f the Sectaries. p-^P1 A Relation of the Sectaries cou?.en~ ing_ THE TABLE. ing and deceiving. p. 191, 192. A Relation of the Sectaries groffe ly- ing, and Pandering. p-*9- A Relation of the pride of the Secta- ries and boafting in armes of fleih. A Relation of the Sectaries unfufTera- ble infolencies and horrible af- fronts to Authority, particularly, i. Againft the Lawes of. the Land, both Common and Statute, p. 194, 395. 2. Againft the King, 195:, 196 3. Againft the Houfe of Peers, 196, 197,198, i99> 200, 201, 202. 4. Againft the Houfe of Com- I mons, 203,204, 205, 206, 207,208, 2C9, 21c, 211, 212, 213. 5. A- gainft many particular Members of both Houfes by name, 213, 214. Againft Committees of both Houfes, 214, 215. Againft both .Houfes as conjunct in their Autho- rity and Power, p. 216, 217, 218, 219, 2.20, 221,222, 223." Againft - our Brethren of Scotland, p. 224, 22>, 22(5, 227. Againft the City of London, p.228, 229. Againft the Ailembiy,p.23o. Againft the "Minifters of the Kingdome, p.230, 231. Againft the Reformed Chur- ches, p. 231. Againft inferiour Magiftrates and Courts, p.23 1,232, ^33> 234> 235, .236, 237, 238, 239. 240. Among all ,the wickednefifes of the Sectaries, the Reader may obfervc fchefe fix following particulars : 1. How they make it their worke u deftioy and overthrow Religior p.233, 234,235,23^ 2. How that when the King cafthim- felfe into the armes of our Bre- thren of Scotland, they wiilied he had gone rather to France or Ire- land, p.23<5.237. 3. Their evill carriage towards our Brethren of Scotland, p. 237,238,239. 4. Their prodigious carriage toward the Kingdome of Ireland, p. 239,240. 5. Their damnable hypocrifie and dif- (itn ulation, p.24c and fhat in feven particulars, C Their contemning and abufing Gods Minifters. A Relation of a Sectaries groffe cou- zening one to whom he owed 50. pounds, the latter end of the (heet. A Relation concerning forae pafTages fpoken in a Sermon by M. Knollys an Anabaptift, p.241. A Relation of fome paffages delive- red in divers Sermons by M. Sy~ mondsy p.241, 242. Animadverfions on M. Hurtons Con- formities Deformity p. 243^44^45- Certaine Queries propounded to M.'Burtott, to ihew him how he is miftaken, p.247,248. A Relation concerning Cjreen a Felt- maker, that preaches in an Alley in Coknuns-ftreet, p. 248,249. A *&» <&* <*> «*» «*» <&t *&> *&£r*i £^r^£*ii**^,iX'5i5*i^^x. A New and further DISCOVERY O F The Errors ^HerefieS;, Blafphemies and Proceedings of the Se&aries of thefe times. >Aving given the Reader an account in my Firft " and Second Parts of gangrana of many of the Errors, Herefies, Blafphemies, and pernicious Praclifes of the Sectaries, I fhall now proceed to adde divers more Errors, Blafphemies and infolent unheard of Practices, by all which the Reader may obferve thofe words of Paul fulfil- led in our times, vfe* that evill men and Seducers [hall wax Vtorfe andworfe, deceiving, and being deceived, and that place fpeaking of falfe Teachers and Doctrines, for they will incrcafe unto more ungodlinejfe , and their VPord will eate as doth a Gangrene, and in this Third Part I {hall more particularly and largely kt downe the corrupt Opinions and Principles that have been vented a- gainft the Civill Magiftrate, and the Government of Common- wealths, as aifo relate more Practifes and infolencies of thofe Se- ctaries who are Souldiers, and belonging to the Army, then I did in the former Parts : And firft of all I fhall lay down the errone- ous Opinions not enumerated in the former Catalogues, which being added to the two hundred and fourteen fet down in the Firft and Second Parts will amount with thofe in the Appendix tooj to neer upon three hundred, A Thi A New and further Dlfeovery cf the The third Catalogue cf the Errors, HenJIes, and flrangt Ofinwmof theSe&ar'tesofthefe times. r.'T 'Hat-God hath a bodily {hape and proportion : man was 1 made according to the likenetTe of God in perfonall fhape, and God the Creator beareth the fame form in lltape and perfoa which man hath. Far procfe cf Thjs Opinion was held by fome Hereticks in the fourth- Cen- Wfc^cndm- tlliy^r# known Dy the name of osfttdiani, zni. afterwards calM kd LittlthNon- ffntkropomorphiu. aXngujline in his Book de H&refibus ad fuch, printed Qmdvttlt DeumfZ]). 5c. writes of them, zAudianos quos appeU at London vc- lant, alii vocant Anthropomorphitas,qtiomam cDeum fibi finaunt iy hztly.pag. 2. cogitatione camali in fimilitudinem imagmis corruptibilis hominis. Ammtdvtrf. The odor et in his fourth Book Hctret. FabuL writes there was one nAudam, who faid God was like to man, and gave to God the parts of a man, who fell into this Error by his mifunderftanding of thofe places "of Scripture, which fpeak of God according to mans underftanding. Danzus in his Traclate de HxreJibttseM[y confutes this Opinion, a*d {hows the ftory of it ; and in that, thisKereaelhould be now pleaded for in Print, it (hows us how the Deviil in thefe times revives old Errors dead and buried for many hundred yeers. Little -Non- 2. Theftoryof <*Adams eating the forbidden fruit, and of /»d>,pag, 4, ■ the Serpent, is an Allegory ; by the Serpent in that place is no other then concupifcence, and by the fruit of the tree, fome other eating then the eating of a materiall Apple is underftood.. Ammadverf. This alfo is an Error revived , h eld by David George, who lived a.hundred yeers ago : In David Georges life written in Latin by * T>an*m in his ^is ibnne in law Nicolaus Blefiikius,pag. 161,162. 'tis related that Tra& de Hx- by the Serpent entiling our firft Parents,he meant concupifcence, ufibascap.^. and pleads for an * allegorical! interpretation of the Serpent, ^mong ?thcr becaufe the Hiftoricall Narration of the Serpent ,as it is laid down Origensfts ' e ky Mofes,(&\t\\ rDavidGeorge)dtavjs divers absurdities with it. fhows this to 3. In marriage there are no degrees of bloud or affinity for- be one, that in the interpretation of Scripture they would perpetually AllegorizeJ© thatthey left nothing cer- tain in the word of Gad>netthcr that Parad fe,nor Adam,nor Eve,nor the waters,nor any thing \/hich Mofcs laiesdcwn in the whole Book of Genefis. Whereupon kugu flint writ 12 Books ds Gcvejjadhtmmz&lnft. fuch Allegories and Corrupts of the Scripture, bidden Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. bidden , but a man may marry :he next of kin to him 5 a brother may marry his Sifter , an Uncle his Neece, a Sonne his Fathers Little Non- Wife, and fo in any degrees without exception; fo that if this fuch,pag.s,tf, liking to marry happen betwixt the neareft of kindred, then it is 7>8,9,*°.«c. alfo the moft natural, the moft lawful! , and according to the Primitive purity and praftife. The maine fcope of this booke called Little Kcufach , or cer- Awmadverf. tainenew queftions3is to plead for Incefluous Marriages, where the Author fets himfelfe to evade all the Scriptures in the Old and New Teftament , faying, Tis not marriage limply with Sifters, Brothers Wives, &c. that is forbidden, fo long as a man keeps wholly to fuch a one having taken her for wife , but the commit- ting fornication with them not being married. Now I (hall /how tbefalfenefTe of this by two Scriptures , The firft in Leviticw 18. where both in the generall , verfe 6. and in particular the feverai degrees are forbidden expreflely , verfe 7, 8; ^ 1 o, Sec. of the Fa- thers wife , ofthe Sifter, of the Fathers Sifter, &c. And where- as the Author of that wicked Pamphlet pleads, that uncovering of nakednefle is meant of fornication only , and not of marriage : I Anfwer, The HolyGhoftin that Chapter expounds the unco- vering of nakednefle to be marrying , verfe the i§. and makes taking to wife and uncovering nakednefle to be the fame , as is e- vident by thefe words , Neither fbzk thou tih$ a wife to ber Sifter to vex ber , to uncover ber nafydneffe befides the other in ber life time : that is , either thou (halt not take one wife to another , marrying another wife having one , or el(e marrie the After of thy wife whether (he be lifter by mother or by the father. Againe, the holy Ghoft in this Chapter forbids that which is unlawfull with forne kind of perfons,and not with all , and at (ome times and not at others 5 therefore limits it to fuch a fort of perfons , fuch de- grees of bloud ; but now fornication is unlawfull with all, and at all times , a man may not uncover the nakednefle, that is,commic fornication with thofe who areremoteft in bloud or affinity , and thatitmuft be underftood (bis evident from the 19. verfe,* Thou*?***^' . (bait not approach unto a woman to uncover her natydneffe as long asjhs w? m Lev' is put apart for ber unckanejje' thatis, every man was to abftaine from his own wife during the time of her monthly fluors , which neceflarily (howes tis meant of a mans wife> for from all other A 2 womea A New and further Difcevery of the women a man muft abftaine alvvayes , and tis never lawfull co ap- proach to them > buc even from a mans owne wife over whofe bo- dy he hath power at other tinus , he is then to abftaine. Laitly, the holy Ghoft comes to fpeak of fornication , verie 20. Tkott fhilt not Ik carnally with thy neighbours wife ; There he forbids for- nication , but in the former part of the Chapter he foi bad Inceft and Inceft nous marriages. The other Scripiure is in the New Te- fhment , LMzrk^ 6. 17, 1 8. verfes , where John tells Herod tis not lawfull for him to have his brother Philips wife ; and this can- not be e vaded3by faying John reproved Herods caking her by force, or living in fornication with her 3 but not barely for marriage with her : For the text faith exprt fly he had married her, and (he was w i Jling to it as appears by the ftory , becaufe (he had a quar- rel! againft John Baptilt , and would have killed him for preach- ing to He/Wagainft it , and afterwards watched her opportunity of revenge againft John , verfe \$% 24 preferring his head before haifeof trie Kingdome. I have been the larger in this Animad- verfion y becaufe divers Sectaries ar guilty of inceftuous marriages^ \£j* I have the names of three Independents given me out of one Coun- ty who have married inceftuoufly. * For proof of 4, * That our common food,ordinary eating and drinking, is a ibis, fee page Sacrament of Chrifts death , and a remembrance of his death till 5. That the Souls of the Saints departed now in Heaven , are on Earth everywhere prefenc with their friends , and with all the affairs of this world, feeing and knowing them , though rnafpi- rituall manner , and not in 10 grofle a way as when they were li- TMi Doarinc ving upon earth ; for look as the Saints whi! ft they were on earth was Preached |n their bodies , yet were in Heaven in their Conversations : So ?aF^-crtU now$ though they be in Heaven, yet they are on Earth with ^&bVou4it tne*r k *en(*s r and know their ftate and condition. to comfort3 men againft th>t trouble of death, They (hall dy and be removed from their frknds, and be ftranger.s to the affairs below : This point was laid downe by way or Anfwer, infifod upon and amplified : 1 and divers other Minifters wereeare witnefles, and fpake together oftbc Sermon when it was dpne.I have been told it alio from good handsjthat an Independent Minifter of great siott,whcn he was dy*;grpake to his wife and friends to have a care, how they ufed his body when it was dead x for he ihould know what they did to him. Doth Enoars and Proceedings oftheSeclmes. Doth no: this Doftrine open a gap for prayer to the dead f what Animad,J(rrt bred and nourifhed prayer to Saints departed but this r and is not this a great ground of it among the Papiftsat this day > if this were true, would ic not put men upon praying to Saints whom they familiarly knew and were interrefted in, as their fathers, mo» thersj&c. A godly and able Minifter who was at this Sermon, pre* felled to me and another Miniiter difcourfing of the Sermon , That if he beleeved this Doftrine to be true , he mould pray to his Fa- ther to remember and pray tor him; and rhe Papilis generally as Beliarmine and others urge this as an argument for Prayer to Saints becaufe they know our affairs and the condicion of things belowe : unto which the Proteftants generally Anfwer, That the Saints departed know not our wants,nor what is done in the earth :and in Answer to that Argument, The Saints on earth pray for one ano- ther ; Ergo^much more we (hould defire the prayers of the Saints departed: Among other Anfwers they fiill give this , We may re- queft the prayers of one another, becaufe we know our mutuall neceflities, but the Saints departed know not what things are done here upon earth, neither are every where prefent to hear our prayers. The hoi y Ghoft tells u?, If at ah 63* 16. that Abraham U ignorant of tu , and Ijrael knows us not: Upon which Atigufiine writes thusjffo great Patriarcks were ignorant what became of 'the pec- fJe which w^re borne of their bines ^ how it it like that ether e'ead can be prefent to underfland and h helping to mens affairs s So Job faith of them who are dead , His fonnes come to honour and he knoweth it noty and they are brought lowebut be perceivethit not 5 Job 14. verfe2l. But for confutation of this Popifh opinion, I referrethe Pleader to fViUets Sjnopfis the ninth generall Controverfie concerning the Saints departed^queft,^ to Amefius his Be liar. EnervatusTcmt2d. de hvocatione Sandtomm , and to learned Rivet J Catholicus Ortho* doxus Traft. 2. Quel}. 48, 6. The glorified Souls-now in Heaven fee in Chrift as in a glafle the date of the whole Church on Earth, all their joyes torejoyce with them , and all their griefs and troubles, though not togreive with them. " . . This is B'eSamzms opinion , ani brought by him as a ground Animid-a*f. for the Invocation of Saints, becaufe at once they fee in • Gud as in a glaffe all things here belowe , and fo the prayers of the faith- A j foil 6 A New and further V if covery of the full directed to them. Of the manner how the Saints in Heaven know the prayers of the living , BtUarmine lets down four opini- ons of the waves how- 1 Some fay they know them by the relation of Angels. 2 Others fay, the Souls of the Saints by their won- derfull celerity and agility are in a (ore every where,and fo know* 3 Many hold, the Saints fee at once in God as in a glafle all things which concerns them , and fo the prayers directed to them. Lau> ly , others fay, they know them by fpeciali revelation from God, when they are prayed, asElijha knew Gebazies corruption , and Samuel knew Sauls eftate* Now the Third, the beholding in God as in a glide the prayers of the living , Bzllarmine adheres to as the molt probable $ fo that this 6th Error5and Bdlarmines agrees fully : but for confutation of this Error 5 let the Reader read our Prote- ftants in Anfwer to Bdlarmine upon this queflion: AzAmepw Bellar. Enervate WtllJs Sjttop(is9mth many others. 7 The glorified Souls who are in Heaven, doe now with Chriit govern and rule the Kingdomes of the Earth and all the affairs herebelowe ; for j:roofe of which was brought thefe Texts as I remember, Revelation 3.21, To him that ovetcometbwiU I grant to fit with me in my throne. Rev. 2. 2 6. And be tbat Qverccmzth to him wilt I give power over the nations. 'Animadvtrf. This ^° is a Popilh Errour brought to ftrengthen prayer to * This Error & Sainr s; for feeing it were a vaine thing to pray to them if they had the otherthree not power to help, they therefore are urged to confefle that the laft mentioned $ajms are patrons of men , and have the government of the world laft SwTr? at commtoed to them , and Bellarmhe with the Rhernifts bring this s Funeral Scr- Scripture out of the Rev* To him tbat over comet h will I give power jnon,byanin. over nations* Ergo, the Saints have the government of men'corn- . dependent cf nutted to them : But the Anfwer to this Scripture and fuch like , great note,l,& ^ ReacJer mav gndat large mWillets Synopfis ninth gener. Con- Sifters w^re trover fie,queft.3, the third part of the queflion,whether the Saints care witnefles departed underftand our prayers and be alwayes at hand to help of thefe do- us , and thither I refer him, Srines. g * That the Angels dwell in the glorified Souls of the Saints * Proof Web^ depaned# & agalnft myfirft 9- * That Johns Baptifme which was by water, did end at the pan of Gwgr. coming of Chrift, and that there is no Baptifme by water inftitu- M** tedbyChrift. s/immadverf Errors and Proceedings of the SecJarhs. 7 ' Animad. This Error is both printed and licenfed, Web profeffcs he fhould account me as his Father in Chrift to convince him of the contrary by Scripture, and this Error receives much counte- nance from Mafter Sphm&rfb in his Smoak^ in the Temple, pag. 1 6. in faying thofe Scriptures of Matthew 2$* 1?. Mark^ 16. 1 5 . Go and teach all Nations Baptizing them,&c. are not under- stood of baptizing with water, but the Spirits baptizing, or the Baptifme of the holy Ghoft, and therefore I (hall animadvert * Kefpatidco upon it. For the firft branch of this Error, that Johns Baptifme Baptifmuaijo* which was by water,did end at the coming of Chrift, andfo makes jj"?1* f{6rf? Johns Baptifme of another kind then Chrifts, and divers from itf, mocinfttaufr 'tis a Popifh Error and confuted by all our Proteftant Divines in tmm Chnsim handling of the queftion of Baptifme, who hold generally againft tapti^at inte- thePapifts, That Johns Baptifme was not divers from Chrifts r!fs. b*ptifa§ Baptifme, but was all one with it in property and efefr, and ^^mpa^sSmn they who were baptized by John, needed not to be baptized & Baptifmtiscbn- gain ; and for fatisfaclionl referre the Reader to Willets Synopfs fli ab dmibui twelfth generall controverlie of the Sacrament of Baptifme, Mimftr&rum J&eft. 7. where the arguments pro & contra by Papifts and Pro- tf?'fum bd:?~ teftants are fet down, and to learned * Rivets Catholkus Ortho- lat'^m '^J^ doxus Tract. l.£mft. 2. where againft the Jefuite he learnedly pafe a baptif- maintainsthe Baptifme of John to be a Sacrament of the Go- *« ccrcmoma- fpel,and that Chrifts Baptifme differs no more from fMs? then li«cbr$oi;i- k doth from the Baptifme of other Minifters, ami that Johns Ba- tlmlcm^P ptifme differed nothing from Chrifts, but in refpecl of time and &'^ ^catio* elearneffe of figninxation , which before the manifestation of nW d'mtatey Chrift was not fo great as it was after it; and in this refpeft the W* MtechrU Baptifme of the Apoftles before the death of Chrift was difte- []0i™;viiff*~ rent from the Baptifme adminiftred by them after his death. As non'/uit qmni for that Web faith, that Johns Baptifme which was by water, did ta ptf? cam \ end at the coming of Chrift/tis apparently falfe,for Chrift m\t- Wen fccm? ac felf a little before his beginning to preach, was baptifed with 4p*flotorum Johns Baptifme, which was by water , Matthew 3 . from verfe 13 . ^.^[^^f 1017. and after Chrift preached and caird Apoftles, they bapti- p divei fa fiii zed with water, and baptized more Difciples then John*, compare it a baptifmo John 3 . verfe 22, 3 3 . with John 4. verfe 1 , 2. and it was a baptizing ** frfis post with water as thofe words (how, lefpts and his Difciples bantUed. ™jYtr't e)m met J onn was aijo vaptwag w Aenon becanje there was much Vvater p2 2- ,^ there } A New and farther Difcovery of the thereto that it was fuch a baptizing as fohns,viz,. by water,and the place to do it in chofen , becaufe there was much water. And laftly/cis apparent by the Scripture, that a Baptifme by water was ufed by the Apoftles and in the Primitive Apoftolicall Chur* ches,not only fince the coming of Chrift and his preaching in his own perfon, but fince his going away, fince his Refiirredion and Afcenfion, and for that I will name three Scripture, ^Atls 8. 36. 37j 3 Ij3P« PMtif baptizes the Eunuch with water upon beleeving, after Chrifts Afcenfion. e/tffoio.47,48. Thofe Gentiles who were baptized with the holy Ghoft, verfe 45. on whom was pou- red out the gift of the holy Ghoft, thefe men were baptized with water; as thofe words demonstratively prove, verfe 47. Can any man forbid water, that thefe Jhould not be baptised, which have received the. holy Ghofl as well as we f cslnd he commanded them to be baptised, Sothat this Scripture takes away that foun- dation that Chrifts Baptifme, and the Baptifme he fpoke of in Matth, 28. ip.c^c. was a being baptized with the gifts of the holy Ghoft, and not with water; for here we fee Peter com- mands -45- amongfts the Saints,they are fufrlciently qualified. 17. Thac Deleavers ought not to be troubled or grieved fot whatsoever fins or evilis they faw committed by any, becaufe that God il he would could hinder them , he had power and wil- dom enough to hinder them, and to make things otherwise • and therefore if he faw not good to hinder them, what fhould they trouble themselves about them > 18. That Pigeons in Dove Houfes are common for all men to vUt Proofeof take and eat them, as well as chofe who are owners of thofe Dove ^^y^rd Houfes, becaufe Pigeons are fowls of the aire, and fo common p2rt. to the fons of men. * j^.Proof of 19. That 'tis unlawfull to eat things ftrangled, as fowls whofe A" pag. 107. necks are broken and wrung about, and not cut off. ! Ta^ok cn- 20. That there is no Predellination nor Election at all. ticuied Divine 21. * That Gods eternall Election is of all men, one as well Light mmlffi* as another* tug the love of 22. * That many (hall be aftually faved who are not elefted ; ^f^' and they who preach none fhall be faved but the ele& and pre- ^ the^true de(tinate,are notable lyars. Church, prin- 23. * There is a two-fold eternall life and falvation, a more ted in the year glorious falvation, foasto make them inftruments of falvation l6*?\ ,*,. unto the whole Creation, and that belongs to the eleft and pre- ^minghht deftiaate$ and a lefle glorious falvation, which belongs to them i9VQofGQd% who are not predeftinate, pag*** B 34, That la A New md further B/ftovery of the 24. That all the Heathen (hall be faved, becaufe they are not guilty of unbelief, never hearing of Chrift. 4t 25. That God is in our flefh as much as in Ghrifts flefhj he is as much in the fbih of the members, as in the Head. .2/5. That all .(hall be i&ved aclaft , both all men and devils: Chrift by fuffering hath merited for the tranfgreffions of his Crea-- Tfaemaifle **on > Angels and Mankind, and ail immortall Spirits , paying fcope of that the price of our tranfgreffions,. and the tranfgreilionsof allAn- Samphlet cald gels, Spirits, and Mankind , fealing the pardon of all with his Divine Light fc>]oucj . the reprobate condition of men and Angels mall be re- TolVofGod!^ SaiRed> curfedne& ftall be taken away, death and hell (hall be to there-bole deftroyed, the grave (hall deliver up the dead, all (hall be crea- world, is co ted anew to lifc and immortality : T he damned prifoners (hall be plead forage* £nt forth out of the pit wherein there is no water by the power ^n of III men °( the Ho1? G^ wh° WiU maincain and raake ufe of che blou«* and°deviSsCn °*" Chrift, (hewing it to be the holy Covenant of generallRe- andthatGhrift demption. feath paid the 27. They are the great Antichrift, and deny the whole Chrift, Pace of his Q0$y and their own (alvation, who deny the Covenant of ge- bloud for them ^raIi Redertiption of au men> deviIs3 and lhe whole CreaA tion. 2%* Chrift defended into hell to break the bands of the dam- ned, preaching peace unco them • and for ihe proving it thele Scriptures are wrefted, 1 Ftf.3.18. Ephe fa.frio. Zecb.g.u. 2n6 The Devils for a time have damned themfclves f or not be* leeving, nor receiving this truth in obedience to the Go/pel of Generall Redemption, that God hath made all petfeft tohiro- (elf in Chrift,. and paid a price for the (ins of all, being by Chri(i fyiiiM light y juftly condemned for their unbelief and difabeoience, in not c- &&*9?- beying the Goipel of peace, righteouinefle, and love to God and our fellow treasures. 30. The true Chriftian working faith which the Holy Ghoft commends fo much unto all in Scripture , and calls for at the v . i; bt naH(^s of all m ca^ '°f folvation receiving it, or damnation in re- paS^ulr/. fufing i*s (f°r £he want of which millions ofthoufands were darn- ; v '-: f ned for a time, though not damned to perifti for ever, for there is none can be damned totally J .is to beleeve the Covenant of Generall Redemption, that auteU Ibe eternally fa ved , both men 1 Errors and Proceedings of the Seclaries. n men and devils,, and (hall fee, ted, and pofieue the bleflednefle of it to their everiafting falvation and comfort. This is the true Chriftian working faith that removes the mountains of (ins not only for our felves but for others ; and that faith which talks much of Chrift, and preaches that none can be faved but by faith, and denyesthis work of General! Redemption, is a for mall faith, is a very myftery of iniquity, and proclaims? openly againfii Gods love and perfection unto his whole Creation in Chair. 31. This true faith of beleeving the Covenanc of General! Redemption though it were but in a few, in three perfons onely intheworld, yet this faith in thefe perfors (hould favs all ihereft of the Creation : Thefe beleevtrs are ihat feed of bleflednefle unto D>™\ £*J| ail the Creation with them, in them, and by them : they are ' 2l\ made inft rumentall meanes of God through Chrift onely by be- leeving and declaring his goodnefle, and in their fpirics contefting with God for his Jehovah mercies towards the rebellious, they are made inftruments of blefling unto the whole Creation,although there (hould be but three in the earth. This Chriftian faith is of power to bring all things to life , If there were but three per- Ions in the whole world that had it in pofleflion; it receiveeh all things from God in Chrift, and works through God himfelfe, it is perfeft unto all in Chrift from God : In due time the Lord will bring it unto its full birth, to the breaking up of the gates of hell, and meeting Chrift in the generall reflirre&ion (hall receive life and power to immortalize all things. 32. That Chrift Hied his blond for kine and horfes and all o- The proofeof ther creatures, as well as for men 5 for the proving of which that *f thh'lhird ° Scripture is miierably perverted, Rom.%. 1 9,20,21,22. part otGan- Ammadverf. Thefe Errors laft fee down from the 26. to 32. are gt*na. not onely (viz. fome of them) old Errours revived , held for- merly by thofe Herericks ca!Pd Origenift* and Adamantii? who denyed the punifhments of reprobate men and of devills to be e« ternall, and that after a time they (hould all be (aved, (of which the Reader may fee more in Auguftine de Htnfebus, and in Dan but a hdP CO % Chrift the better b? k' giftrate who " 3?* * Though content of Parents unto Childrens marriage was have refufed commanded under the Law, to them that lived then 5 yetbecaule to take an that was but a ceremony, tis now lawful! to marry without their oath, and of confent, becaufe we live under the Gofpel. weiiid fpeak' $9' a thrifts death and fufFerings were endured for to be our the truth as in example, not to purchafe heaven for us. theprefence 40. fcThat 'tis not lawfuil for Chriftians to take an oath, no of Chrift, but not when they are called before Authority, and broueht into "pro^T C0UrtS' of this Third 41, cThatGhri(t would deftroy not only unlawfull Govern- part of Gait- ment, but lawfuil Government, not only the abufe of it, but the griflwi ute of it 5 he was deftroy ing both Monarchy and Ariftocracy, d Proof, Pam. 4?# a jhat the Sainrs,befides the fpirituall Kingdome and Go- cfrZ^lueres vernment of the Church oi Chrift, muft have an externall King- 164*. byTbo- dom to poflefle ; that this is the time that the Kingdome, viz, mas colyer&nd England, Scotland^ and Ireland, is to be taken from him who (hall in Third part arife and fabdue three Kingdoms , thinking to change times and • VW°Pm 8h. Lawes> and fta11 be given C0 the Saints# cntit.-^*™£-" 43' e Gracious lords, or Favourable Lords, are titles that rum to the h. cannot be proper amongft Chriftians , but are marks of Gen- ofLcrds^.i. tiles. /Proof pam* ^ . t »j-s an utter disfranchifement of the people, and a mcer S^kJ^r?^ vaflalagc, for a man to Petition to Courts of Judicature* as the H.sfLordsfrC Houfe of Peers, for his right, and to have juftice done him : 'tis no Error f and Proceedings of the Sett■- Government, compofed by Proteftant Synods who have an eye tons fan foml* to the Scripture in what they doe , but the afluming of fuch a [£[ ^^lty% power, (b as to enaft a Law to bind all to conformity, 'tis a fa!> fcope of tjie ling under that in Bfay> Their fear towards God waf taught by the Book being to precept of men $ 'tis with Nebuchadnezzar to ered his golden 1- maintain this*, roage,with Jeroboam and his Councell to let up the golden Calves ; amon§ ot^er 'tis a rejecting of Chrift from being King, an utter overthrow- £*|cs %\!lA ingof the Kingly Prerogative and Office of Ghrilt , and a de<* 15. and for a ftroying a foundation of faith. Animadverffi* 47. That all Power , Places, and Offices that are juft in this ons onthis Kingdom , ought only to arife from the choife and election of the ^ e Acaf ef peop!e,and that allthe power & right any man hath lti governing the iat(crpart and ruling over thofe he rules , ftands wholy in the choice and e* of this Eoq& lection of thofe that are ruled • and that men need not , ought not to yeeld obedience and fubje&ion to the Commands, Summons, Lawes,&c, of any but of thofe they have chofen and who are their Reprefenters ; and to fubrnit , yeeld obedience to any others whom they have not cbofen,is inconfift ent with the nature of juft . freedoms, and to exercife any power not derived from choke , Is no leffe then ufurpation and oppreffion. 48. That all the Legall, Supreame, Sovera>gne, Regalfj Legiflative power of this Kingdom is in the Houfe of Commons^ the i6 4 Xew and further Difcovery of the the chofen Commons of England, and in no other whatfbever; there's no other the Svpreanie Court of judicature of this Land but the Houft of Commons: That all Majefty and King&ip in- herently rending in the people or {late univerfall the reprefentati- on or derivation of it is formally and legally in the ftate Represen- tative or ele&, and in none elfe : The Supreame power only of right belonging to the Houfe of Commons , they only being cho- fen by the people. 49. That the (late univerfall,the body of the common people is the Earthly Soveraign, Lord, King and Creator of the King, Par- liaments,all Officers and Minifters of Jultice : tlnderived Majefty < $ a nd Kingmip inherently refides in the date univeria^and the King " Parliaments, &c. are their own meer creatures to be account- able to them , and difpofed of by them at their pleaure 5 the peo- ple hny recall and re-aflume their power, queftion them, and fee others in iheir place. 50. That whatever the Fundamental! Conftkutions of King- domes and Common wealths have been by forefathers , whatever agreements, campatts have been of fubjection and obedience of fuch a people for themielves and pofterities to one,as undsr Kingly governmentjor to more , yet the men of the prefent age folio wing many hundred years after , ought to beabfolutely free from what their forefathers yeelded unto, and freed from all kinds of exorbi* tancies,moleftations, without exception or limitaiiQn>eicheF in re- flect of perions , officers , degrees, or things, and eftated in their naturall and Juft Liberties agreeable to right reafon. PmMtt en- 5 r* That the Houie of Commons cannot have any power 9 nor tiiuled,A Re- exercife any power juftly^ but what the people who chofe them trsonftrance of conferred upon them,and the common people having given them fnanythoufand no power to eftablifh Religion fas having no fuch power in them- othc^Free^ *"e*ves * therefore could not conferre that which they had not ) born people of therefore the Houfe of Commc ns cannot aflume a p jwer to con- Engl. to their troule Rdigion or a way of Church Government upon the people- own Houfc of and although the Kings Writ for chufing Knights and Burgcfles Commons, p. implies the eftabliChment of Religion, yet all implications in the ' il *' Writs of the Eftablijhnient of Religion (howeth that in that particu- lar, as many other , we remain under the Norman yoak of an »»- hwfyB power from which we ought to free ourfelvesj and the Houfe Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. Houfe of Commons ought not to maintain upon us , but to abro- gate. 52, That feeing all men are by nature the Sons of Adam , and from him have legitimacy derived a naturall propriety, right, and freedom, Therefore England and all other Nations , and all particular perfons in every Nation , notwithstanding the diffe- rence of Lawes and Governments, rancks and degrees,- ought to be alike free and eftated in their naturall Liberties , and to enjoy the juft Rights and Prerogative of mankind , whereunto they are Heirs apparent; and thus the Commoners by right, are equal! with the Lords, For by naturall birth all men are equally and alike born to like propriety, liberty, and freedom; and as we are de- livered of God by the hand of nature into this world , every one with a naturall innate freedom, and propriety, even fo are we to live , every one equally and alike to enjoy his birch-right and pri- viledge. 53. That the body of the people may do all that lawfully of themfelves , which their Deputies, Truftees3Reprefentors,chofen ones doforthem,only for greater conveniency they Depute them, and they may go no further in any thing , nor fit no longer, nor difpofe of any thing but according to their Commiffion and pow- er received from the Reprefented. I might here alfo annex to thefe Errours many ftrange and fal/e Expositions of Scripture given by Sectaries in their Sermons , and Difcourfes $ but I will only give two or three : 1 That of * Many Mini. * tMattbew 2%. v. 1$. AUfower U given to me in heaven and in earth : fte«,M. Spur- By heaven there, is meant the uncreated heaven 5 there are the-^^J '^ created heavens, and the uncreated heaven ; here is meant the un- ' feif ^tr/' created heaven , the God-head ; fo that the meaning of thefe others heard words is, all the uncreated power of the God-head is given to this Expofoi- Jefus Chrift. 2 That of Genefis the ninth , And purely your bloudof on pveninthe your lives mill I require: at the band of every beafl mil 1 require it, 5 [ rnCj°f *_ That by * Beaft there was meant a wicked man. 3 That of Luke pfe atTeafT0 24. To dayjhalt thou be with ms inparadife$ that to day was to be re- * For proof ferred to Chrifts faying fo, & not to the time when he mould be in Vi&pa&ii* Paradife , of which the Reader may find more in fome following *j;.0j £,is f pages, too. 101. rS^iJH1 t 1— /1 j o * f^, n ft ** yea,give Gods Tkle,calling the people Creatorsjand Kings,Lords, their meer creatures. 2. InfteadofLegall Rights and the Lawes and Cuftomes of this Nation , the Sectaries talk of, and plead for naturall Rights and LibeFties,fuch as men have from Adam by birth, and in many of their Pamphlets they ftill (peak of being governed by Right rea- 83* fon,fo that look now as they do in matters of Religion and Consci- ence they fly from the Scriptures and from mpernamrall truths revealed there, that a man may not be queftioned for going againft them, but only for Errors againft the light cf nature and right reafon $ So they do alfo in Civill Government and things of this life , they go from the Lawes and Conftitutions of Kingdoms, and will be governed by rules according to nature and right reafon$and though the Lawes and Cuftomes of a Kingdom be never (b plain andcleer againft their wayes , yet they will not fubmit , but cry out for naturall Rights derived from Ad*m and right reafon. 3. According to all principles of Jufticeand Right reafon, who is fitted: to judge in fuch and fuch cafes what is according to right reafon , whether every E>elinquent and ignorant Mechanick cald in queftion ( for if that maybe allowed, farewell all juftice , none mall be punifhed, nor innocent righted) or the Rulers, Judge?, and (etled Authority of a Land > Is it not rationally to be fuppofed that thofe Anceftors who founded a Government for fuch a Nat> on,and thofe who have followed in a Succefllon having yedded to and fetled fuch Lawes , could better judge of right reafon , what was for the good of fuch a Nation, and accordingly made Lawes then every mean man who knows no reafon of L?wes and States nor is ca pable of Government , and the true nature of it , neither conceives the G jver nmentof Nations in reference to other Nati- ons , nor in reference to the body of the people; but Ship, paflen- gers and all might be fplit upon many rocks if fach unskilful Pilots had the fteering. 4. Tis certain ail Nations and people , though all came from Adam^ have not the fame Lawes, Cuftomes, Conftitutions of Government,and fo are not, nor cannot be alike free : There is a liberty left in Commonwealths toframe and mould them as (hall foe Judged moft convenient^ and all are no: tied to one Rule j this the Errors md Proceedings of the Sectaries, the Independents grant when they deny ic in the Government of the Church; and feeing men are borne and live in different Cli- mates, Countries, and are of feverall Manners, Difpofitions, Conftitutions , Educations; the fame Lawes , Cuftomes, kind of Government,would not be for the good of all, but what would fit one and be ufefull,would not ferve another ; fome are of a more fervileDifpofition, fome of a hardier ftubborner nature, fome of a gentler freer nature • fome people are ficuated in Iflards,fome upon the Continent , fome have fuch neighbours of fuch a tem- per, others have not; fome Countries wholly fubfifts on fuch comrooditkSjOthers fubfiftin another way-and fo many fuch diffe- rences might be givenjnow,whethei Cuftomes and Laws neceflary for fuch a people, founded on the proper reafon and nature of fuch aplaceandpeople,beproperforall,Ileave to wi(e men to judge. M.Peters that great Sectarian ftateiman in his *Polit.tels usTbe + fame Lafi mil not fit an Snglifi and a Scottifb foot : The Englifh 0f the Englifh mud be ruled more by love. Now iftwo nations fo neer in one I- warSj pt%. land are not alike free,butmuft be differently governed,then cer- tainly Nations remote from one another,are not alike free. Befides, to particular perfbns ,yea bodies of people,many providences & ac- cidents may tal out to make one and the fame people and particular perfbns not fo free as fometimes they have been;there are fome Pa- rents who were free, but having incurred the Law, are tainted in bloud & fo their children alfo,fome are taken captivs or have fold themfelves for a neceffity, and fo their children are fervants to, A nation having bin laved by iome Prince from ruine (though before a free Hate ) may now make him and his Heirs according to fiich- Lawes;King over them$\ay Ante fin* in his Cafes of Conference faith, AmtfUb.%. d& It cannot be denied but that a people forced by neceffity may fell tonfiuat.c.if. , ry xr. , n f • JT _' J J De mutua ob- themfelvesto a King to be all his fervants, (7cw.47.23. Ugatioae inter 5. Tis apparent that in one and the fame Nation, as England%z\\ Magiftratusjt the fubje&s have not the fame priviledges and freedomsjbut fome fubditos* have more then others, fome are not liable to be prefled to war , to bare fuch Offices, ferve injuries , &c. as others are 5 iome have voices, viz. Freeholders, to chufe Knights of Shires, others have not ; fome Cities, Towns, have Charters and large priviledges in feverall particulars, to fend Burgefles to Parliament,which other Towns have not $ and certainly the Peerage of England have pri- viledges A New and further Difcovery of the viledges and HbertieSjWhicb every Jack-ftraw hath nor- 6. I demand of the Sectaries whether in their Pamphlets fpeak- Ing o\ ele&ion and confent, they meane an immediate prefent ■choyce and content of the prefent men now to be governed, or elfe an election confent in the fir ft conRkution ofchis Kingdom and Government by our Anccftors many hundred yeers ago ? Now if they mean this laft, how do they know but that this Government wherein the King and Lords have ftich a power, was by confent and agreement^ being contented fuch a man mould be King, and fhch perfbns Nobles, who by birth mould have fuch power , and then fuch people according to fuch agreements mould have power to chufefome men, who together with King and Nobles mould make Laws,by which theNation governed5&: the King mould have fuch power, Nobles fuch priviledges, and people fuch liberties j but now if they meane the firft, an immediate election of the pre- fent pecpl,that they are to obey none but Co chofen, 'tis moft falfe, and a principle deftru&ive to the fundamenrall government of this Kingdom, and deftroying the Houle of Commons as well as the King and Lords 5 and for the clearing of that, I would pro- pound two things, u That in this Common- wealth of England none have any power of Government at all either in a lower or higher Sphere, either by eleftion of the whole body of the people (for all chufe not, but fome onely) or founded upon election as the fole caule and ground; for none of the people can chufe, nei- ther are men capable to be chofen, till according to Lawes, Writs are granted forth or Charters given by Princes and Lawes to fuch Corporaiions,and yet then the peopl mutt go in chufing,not accor- ding to their wills,but to fuch rules agreed on by Laws, and after men are chofen, fbme conditions alfo and rules muft be obferved, before the perfbns Co chofen have power of government j thefe cho- fen Commons muft be returned, and fworne , take iuch oaths be- fore they can fit, or if they do, their election is ipfi fatto nttl> and they made uncapable ever to fit again ; fb thattis evident that ele- ction of fbme part of the people ( not the whole ) is only a partiall caufe , not the totall and plenary caufe, or rather the true caufe is becaufe fuch anus, according to Lawes and Cuftomes of this Kingdome is now in fuch a place, whereof one of the conditions for fach a place is ele&ionJb and (o [determined by former Lawes- but Err oats and Proceedings of the Sectaries. but now in many Officers of this Kingdcme who have power of government to heare, judge, and do many A&s3 no fort of the common people have any power at all tochufe5 as-in juiticesof Peace; they have been alwayes, and (till are made without sny inch election; fo the judges of the Land, Sheriff?, with divers other Of- ficers; and therefore much more may the King and Peers who by the fundamental! Lawes of the Land, have an hereditary power in Parliament^ to which the Kingdom hath agreed and yeelded obedi- ence fo many hundred yeers,exercife their power without any ele~ &on of the people. 2. That certainly people are bound and tied to Lawes, Rules, as well as Kings and Nobles} and that Covenants, Compact?, Oaths of Allegiance,&c. it mull be as they will have things in the Com- mon-wealth 5 and if fo , let it be considered what may and will be the confequence of that, whether not a community, yea a ma- king the rich poor, and the poor rich, Servants mafters , and ma- ilers fervants . and if it muft not be fo, then how is it the ftate U- niverfall 1 3. What if this Univerfall people do not , or cannot agree a- mong themf elves about the government and governors , but fbme are for one Way, (bme for another , fome for (uch men , others for other men 5 and one fort fay they are the moft , and the other fay they are the moft 5 who mail have power to judge between them and determine the differences? 4. If Power of Government be founded on the content of per- fons to be governed , what if as great a part of the univerfall peo- ple within a few , and may be more confiderable , chufe another man or men then the other greater part chofe, muft they fubjecY to them whom they like not, confent not to,or may not they fet up thofe they chufe for the governing of them \ and fuppofe twenty fuch great parties chufe all different men , may not each fet up and obey only their onwe chofen ones according to this doftrine > 5. How, where, and in what manner mail all the Univerfall people meet, men, women, fervants, children, poor, rich, beggars to declare their minds what they would have, and how things fhould be carried ; and whether ever did they , or can they meet to make known their minds , and who fhall be betrufted to take their minds and report it ? 6. Whether are not the Se&aries the Uuiverfall ftate ofEwg- Und9 J Errors and 'Proceedings of the Sectaries. /W,that pretend cohave this power over King3Lord8,Commons > and whether do they not mean themfelves by ic in all their Pam- phlets, and how do they know many things which they confi- dently affert of the people in their Pamphlets, to be the judgement and intent of any.other, but of their own Sectarian party? 7. Idefiretoknowhowraany of the pc-rfbns who have writ all thefelate Pamphlets againft the King, Koufe of Lords , and of the peoples power over the Houfe or Commons to call them to an ac- counted that they may do nothing but what they give them pow- er to do , and they may difplace them at pkafore as being chofen by them, &c. had ary voices, or power by the LawesandCu- ttomes or this Kingdoms to chute any Members for the Houfe of Commons. Let Lilhwrn, Overtop Larnery and the reft of that rable who talk fo much of the Houte of Commons being their chofen ones, and that a man ought to obey none but whom he chufes with fuch Jike,name any Knight or Burgefie whom they chofe , or were capable to chufe ; for I belceve they were of Co mean eftace that they had not fo much free-land per annum required by the Sta- tute for them who have voices in Elections of Knights of the (hire; and as for chufing Burgefles in London where they lived, they were no Livery men of any of thole Companies who have voices in E- IecYion5 fo that for ought I know, when the Houfe of Commons (hall queftion them for their fedicious Anarchicall Pamphlet?, as the Lords have nioft juftly done fand by thefe and many other A&s have endeered the hearts of thoufands to them) they may an- fwer the Comons as they have done the Lords, and tell them they never chofe any of them, nor gave them any power«they were cho- fen not by the State U niverfall, all the free-men of England^ but by a few free-holders , and fome rich Citizens and tradefmen, and therefore let them rule over them if they will, and let tf ofe who chofe them be fabj.ft; but unlefle they wili be content to lie down and be chofen by the J niverfall people, they will not betray their liberty to anfwer any qu:ftions,fubmit to their Authority, but ap- pealefrom them to ihe U niverfall people, or to the Deputies and Truftees which (hall be made by this Univerfall people; and that they are likely to doit,may be judged by Lilbums carriage to the Committee of Examinations, the Houfe of Commons it felf, and by the many Pamphlets in the yeere 1 645. fet out againft the Houfe d of A New anct further Discovery of the of Common?; and. that they may fay foupon as good grounds, yea bj? the very fame upon which th=y wtnc in oppofing the Home of Lords, I will undertake to make good^and of ic the Reader may find more about page 1.55,1 56, g. If all power be founded thus upon Election of the perfbns to be governed, and the Connn ns have all their power thu3 from E- lection and from nothing elfe, whether may any he put by from fifl- ting in the Houie who arechofenby mod voices of thole Townes and Counties who fend them, and others choien by fewer voices byfarre fit in their roorres in the Commons Houfe, and whether upon Articles clapt in before proved,or complaints by the friends of tho e whohave fewer voices , may the Committee of Elections or the Houie it (elf put by one chofen by moil voices and admit the other/ and according to this doftrine of the people Univerfall re- presented being the Lords and Matters of the Commons , and the Commons their Deputies and fervants, how can they contradict their Lords the people to turn back whom they fend , and put in others! 9. Whether may not according to the Doctrines laid down in the late Pamphlers , the Counties add Burgefle Towns who have 00 Knights or Bargefles there roreprefent them y nor have not had of a long time , and can yet get no Writs tochufe for themfelves, anfwer the Houfe of Commons w'^en lent for, as Lilburm and 0* verton did the H ;ufe of Lords , We are not bound to obey any of your Orders, as having none there that reprefent us or whofe E- leeVion we have confemed to ? 10. Whether according to thefe Do&rines of the Se&aries,rnay not fuch Cities , Townes , Counties, chufe men without Writs and fend them up to Parliament demanding to fit there , efpecially sifter alleadging Petitions and motions made for Writs tochufe and none granted 5 and whether in fuch cafes whilft Towns are without any Parliament men for themjinay they not refute to obey any Ordinances made by tlv fe whom they never chofe nor know sot, yea ma ,• they not according to this do£fcrin fay that all Ordi* nances wha. fotver made before the time their R.eprdentors came in they will give no obedience to I 11. If al p >wer be founded thus wholly upon the Election of &e people to te governed z and that all Governors are their mees? Deputies, Emurs and Proceedings of the Sectaries* Deputies, lervants, may do nothing but what they give them a power to do and by Cornmiflion from them, whether may the Houfe of Commons , xercife that power the Lavves give then?, and go according to the Priviled^cs and Cuitomes of that Houfe, thetigh the people Repreu need never gave them any fuch things in Com million, nor do net know nor underftand them? or muft they k^ep only to what is the known mind of thofe Countries and Towns that chofe them? 12. If all power in Government be founded on immediate Ele- ction of the People , and no fort of men have power further then the Univerfail peop'e gave them, and becauie they are Repre- (enton, Trultees, Deputies, &c. may do nothing againft the will and mind of the Major part of the Univerfail people who chofe them, whether have ail the parliament-men in all their Votes gone according to the minds and defires of thofe Cities and places that chofe them Reprefented in Petitions, and whether in ca- lesof doubt and yet of great importance,have they frill called their Countries together to know their minds and whether they were willing fuch tr ings fhould be, viz. Anabaptifts,Browni(ts, and all land of Se&ari-s to enjoy fuch freedom of meettings.all (ores of ig- norant Vfei-kari»cks to be fufrered 'oru n preachers , and to go up and down feducing people , whether fo great an Army to be ftill continued in this Kingdom, and they Affefled to pay fuch Taxes for their maintenance , and whether Committees fliall be ftill continued in the Kingdom ; whether great fums of mony and hundreds of pounds in Land/w annum in fuch neceflitous times fhall be given away on men who little need it, and fo in other particulars ? and if things appear to be againft the mind of the ge- neralitie of the people, whether are the people bound to obey their Orders and Ordinances in fuch cafes ? 1 3 . If all power of government be upon Election, and the cho- fen ought to go according to the will of the univerfality of the people, fuppofe it fhould fo happen in a Common-weakh that the greater part of the chofen fhould apparently go contrary to the truft repofed in them, carry things quite againft the mind of the people, as of the chief City, Country, Miniftry, and none (hould be pleafed with their actions but a pure faclion, a party of men ingaged by offices, places of preferment, liberty *f Hcent-ioufoeffe d 2 of A New and further Dtftovery cf the of living againft the true Religion by Lawes eftablifhed, whether then with a good conscience may and ought this univerfall people with the confent and afliftance of fuch Governors chofen by them who are known to be faithfull, demand to chufe others in their places, require juftice upon them, andfo deliver themfelves and their Country ? 14. Whether or no according to thefe Doctrines of the Secta- ries there be any in this Kingdome have any power of government Tbe fame Sea.arie being * For proof (lowed a place of Scripture, which were the words of Chrift ^ Vid Ma* t00k t^e ^ok and threw ic away, and faid that was not ordered by won J/theCi". the Ho1? Ghoft t0 be Panned,, but it was the Rogue Printer that tyRemon- did put it in. ftrancc,/u i. * Another Se&ary faid there is no God5 or if there be a God , *Proof>u4. ^ Devill is a God. of this Th.rd * Mafter SaltmarJhthQ Senary, preached at Bath , that as John *p"of, Zip BaPtift wore a Leachern Girdle > fo the Doftrin that he preached of this Third was Leathern Do&rine. .part oiGangr. * A Sectarian Souldier at B/ifhB finding fault with fomething a godly Erroitrs and Proceedings of the Sectaries. a godly Miniiter had preached of Gbrift wondering ac th.ir unbe- kit, this Minifter toid this Souldier they were Chrifts words, un- to whom this Sectarian Souldier rcplyed, Ghrifl fpake thus in- hisdarknef£: And another tire this -Minifter fpeaking with the fame Senary about being juftined by Chrifts Pughceoumefie, this Sectary replyed, Chrifts Righteoufneffe was a beggerly ftighte- oufnefle. A She-Sectary an Anabaptift faid it boaftingly again and again, That me was every whit as good as Chrift5 no way inferiour to him y but equall to him, and if (he were not (b the Scripture was a liar. A feblion offome Pajfagts in the Prayers offome Seffjries* IT was for certain related to me, and to many perfons of worth , that in Jane laft,when the King was with our Brethren of Scot- iand9 an Independent prayed publickly to God , that God would deliver the King oat of the hands of thofe evill Counfellors in- whofe bands he now was. Tis written to me in a Letter , and teftirled under the hands of three witnefles , that an Independent in a publick Church prayed thus j Lord , if thou arc not pleafed to blefle us in the feducing King, and tray terous Queen, then blefle us in the Prince his Son * or the Duke." And at another time the fame man pra.ed thus; Lord, now that the Sword is drawn , let it never be fheathed,untill it be glutted in the bloud of the curfcd Malignants. A Great S^cta- y in London upon occafion of the City Remon- ftrance, prayed as followes ; ( of which prayer many Citizens had Cipie? , and I was told it from good hands it was brought in to the Court of Aldermen. ) OLoH, thou knoweft ihere is a Remonftrance to go up to the Parliament, wh\c\ is rruch to thy difhonour, and the hurt of thy Saints , tor Lord thou knoweft the Kingdoms of the Earth by right belong unto us thy Saints. Sutler not thy Saints any longer robe trampled upon , but (land up for thy people, and do not fuffer the ungodly to go up with this wicked Remon~ Srance. A Ncrv and further V if c&verj of the ftrance: Confound their device, and rurTer it to take no effect: And Lord we thaoke thee that thou haft ftirred up fonie of thy Saints with courage already to proteft againft it, we befeech thee ftir up more. Lord, far up the women that lie in their husbands boiornes, and the children to cry unto their parents, every one to be helpful! to one another to ft ay this Remonftrance. Lord , we will f aft and pray unto thee this day, tomorrow, and the next day. OLord near our prayers and let our cry come unto thee; as thou haft been mercifull unto us , Co we befeech thee to continue thy favour and love unto us. I was told it alfo by an underftanding godly Minifter , that this Summer about the time of Lilburns commitment by the Houfe of Lords, a greac£e&ary in one of their Conventicles prayed to this effect- OLord,caft down, or confound all Monarcks aud Monarchies , and lift up or advance thy lervant Llbnwe. This Minifter had it from fome, who faid they were eare witneffes 5 and I defired to (peak with them about ir , and he promifed I mould , but having not yet fpoken with them , I do relate it but as. are- port, andnotwiththatconfidenceasldo things I hear, or find written , or that I have from godly perfons I know who are eare witnefTes. Some of the Independents and Sectaries ufe to court God in prayer , having as affe&ed ftraines, and ftrong lines, as e- ver Univerflty Preachers uied to have in their Sermons at Saint UWaries. One of them began his prayer, Right Honourable Lord God ; another begins oft-times, Iromortall God, and then makes rideTSo&ia* a ft°Panc* Paufe, and then comes on the Seraphines tongues are ftwkksuiux tipt with thy praifes , and praying in an affe&ed manner. Ano- routing of the the r Independent fpake to God in prayer by way of complaint a- Army of the gainft the Presbyterians; Lord,they hate us becaufe we know more ^cPetndt^nts:of theethentheydo; but we befeech thee Lord give us ftili to He!der.° ' " know more °f &ee , and let them hate us more if they will. Errours and Proceedings of the Sectaries. \ j A Relation of /lories and fundry -remarkable Pafptges concerning the Seels j and Sectaries • and among (I others offome Sotddiers who are great Sectaries* J Tty the third 1646/cwo Citizen^ honed men related to me this ftory in the hearing of another Minifter, and that wiih a great deal or confidence (one of them having laien ih the Town where the fad: was committed, and having fpoken with many Inhabt- tancs about it ) that fiimmer was a two yeares Captaine Beamant and his company being quartered at Takfly in HundngtcnfHre, there being a child in the Town to be baptised, fome of the fbuldi- ers would not furT^r the child to be carried to Church to be bap- tized, and the Lieutenant of the Troop drew out a part of the Troop to hinder ir,guarding the Church chat they mould not bring the child to be baptized, and infteadofthe child being baptized, in contempt of Bapti'me, fome of the fouldiers got into the Church, pified in the Font, and went to aGen.lemans liable in the Town, and took cut a horfe , and brought it into the Church, and there baptized it, and afcer they had done fo, fuch cf the Townfmen as (pake againftthem before they went.away they did them mifchcif; and this was fo certainly and generally fpoken of that a godly Minifter who dwelt hard by, heareingofitcarae next day to the Town to find ouc him who baptized this horie, and the reft who had ahancjinit, and to ftirreup the P^rifii tocom- plainc and profecute thens. Which ftory being thu? related to me with much confidence from thefetwoCitizens,as having fp 3- ken wUbthis neighbour Minifter, and divers o( the. Inhabit ants of TVfyZy- yec because I well know that reports » ill flye varioufly and many miftakes may arifedn relations, and becaufe this w^sfbfad a ftory and fuch a defperate prophanation'and contempt cf Gods Ordinance of Baptii me- 1 therefore intreated thefe Citizens for my fadsfaftion, and for the credit of the ftory to othcrs,to^et un- der the hands offome of the Inhabitants of quality who related ir, the truth of the ftory, what of it was true and what might be built uponascertaine, whereupon they fent about it, and took fuch a courfe, that about ten dayes agoe,in September I received from the hands of a godly Minifter this certificate to a tittle,and do keep the D Original! 18 A New and ftirthtr Difeovevj tf the Originailby me to produce when ever I (hall be called to make proof of if. THat Captaine Beamant was quartered at ICatyflj in the Coun- ty of Huntingdon about June 2, 1 644. and preached on the Lords day in the Parochial! Church ; and in the time of his quar- ter there,his (buldiers fecht a bald horfe out of Matter Finnmoores (table (of the Captaines) where 'he was quartered, and in the Church at the Font (having piflfed in it)did fprinkle it on the horfe, and call him Ball Sfan f becaufe he was hairie) and croft him in the forehead : They had fbuldiers Godfathers, and one Wtddow Sbrop» fbire, a fouldier fo nick-named, was the Godmother. This the Leiutenant 'Bray field by name reported to the Cjptaine, and they all gloried in it at Matter Finnmoors^ and the other fbuldiers im- mediacy reported the fame to be done in many honfes where they were qnartered : Which we the Inhabitants of Takejlj do wicnefTe whofe names are fubferibed . WiUtam Finnemour, Hokrt g Sumerly his marke* IhomatEvariet. John Palmer. John CaryeK " ' Robert Cumberlidge. HoUcs *$*!}. Robert Rayner Corporal! was the man that a&ed the part of the Minifter, BartJy ff'ardby name was the Godmother, Lau* reace Dodds, Leiutenant Brayfeildj man3wa she that fecht the horfe out of the (table- The fame godly Minifter who hath relation to thofe parts, and from whom I had this paper tells me there are many other mifde- meanorsoffomeof the Sectarian fbuldiers fpoken of by many in thofe parts, as the baptizing of a pigg, and other ftrange exploits, which he will enquire the certainty of, and accordingly as hee finds, give me notice $ and he faith thefe Sectarian fbuldiers are fo infolent, that the godly Orthodox Minifters cannot with fafety to their perfons preach againft fome of thofe errors which they vent, as Errors 4nd Proceedings, of the Sectaries. to as againft univerfali grace, and (bine others ; Cony, of the/eibuldi* ers to one godly and able Mirjfer who preached againft their opi- nion*, laid: their /hands upon their fiwds^t^arning him with a great deal of fury* • -IT i Tr#r e is a godly'Minifler,and a«nua of fome place more then or- dmary(whofe wife being-much inclined to the Sectaries and going often to their meetings-) he went. divers times vyith her, and among many ftrange paflages which he ha?.h feen and heard in thofe Affem- blies^ be relates this following ilory for a certain ti uth, which hee bothfaw and heard, but was not wiling to have his name made kridwn became of fome eftate lying fbj that he perhaps might fufFer nnich for difcovering any thing concerning the Se&s. About Algate in London there was a great meeting of many Se- ctaries, (among others one Matter Knowls, Matter Jejfe, and fome other of the Sectarian Minifters were there) for the restoring of an old blind woman to her fight, by anointing her with oy le in che name of che Lord : The manner of it was after this manner, the bid blind woman was (et inthemidft of the R.oome3 and (he firft prayed aloudfall the company joyning with hereto thiseffedt,thac God would blefle his own Ordinance and Inftitution for the re- ftoring of her fight 5 after (he had done praying, Matter Knowls prayed for fome (pace of time to the fame effect for a bleffing up- on this anointing with oile,and after prayer (he was anointed with oyle, thefe words being words uttered by him who anointed her or to this effect, The Lord Jefus give,or reftore thee thy fight. In my firft part of Gangr bound in the Army^yet I cannot think but fuch deftruttive te- nets as force of them have broacht amsngft us when they lately quartered here, are not particularly come unto yonr eares* There- fore out of zeal to Gods glory, the fafty of our Church and Com- monwealth jParliament and Miniftry 5 I could not but impart what I have heard from their own momhes, and by honeft neighbours of them. The facred Covenant bindes- me with all fakhfulnefle to _/^ indeavour to difcover Incendiaries, hinderers of Reformation of ^ Religion, dividers of the Kingdomes, &c. And truly I cannot think thefe any other 5 though as yet God hath hindred their iparks (which they caft into all the itraw which they paflcby^ from flaming into open and violent difcord. I can produce both thenames,and I think fufficient witnefle (people are airraid airaoft to (peak againft the fbuldiers^ that they have ferioufly fpoken (as being their judgements and purpofes) that if the fbuldiers knew the Countries minds, a& the Councry might know the fouldiers, they wouldhave another kind of Reformation then this Parliament is about* That they have not fo long fought for liberty, and -now to beinflaved ; That they could goe all England through by force of ^r$ Arms if they lifted. That the Counrry might call the Parliament to account for what they had done, for they were fet up by them. They commonly inderifion call our Brethren Jackj$cctj,and{iy they plot with the King againft the Parliament 5 but if there were anyoccafion of drawing the fword againft them, ihey would be c&t more fierce againft thenij then everagainft the CavaieirFo They ^^ upon long difpute with me continued in this that there is no fuch office as the Miniftry^nd it's bla(phemy for any one to fay that he is a Minifterof Jefus Chrift more then any other man-fuch an office was, but it ceafed. ACaptaine Reforroadoefaid, their fwords fhall never out of their hands , as long as one Prieft continued in Enghnd. They (corned all our religious dayes and duties • call shemfoolsrhaipay TythesP and themtheeves that receive them ^ Will: 2& A Ntw and further Difcoverf of the will beleeve no more Scripture , then what they prove by experi- ence to be true. I might rave heard more, bus: that my heart ab- hors fuch iedicious and blafpemous ipeeches. They fpeake moft contemptibly of Chrifts perfon , and as I beare , deny either the Trinity , or at lean* the holy Ghoft, If it be for any publick be- nefit, I will fearch after more particulars , and fufficient proof. Sir, I am bold to impart my troubled thoughts unto.you , whom I have caufeto judge taithfull to God, your Country,; #1$ your Friend; Truly, we fear fome hurt bythefe m Arms, if a ^ Xpeedy courfc be not taken with fome of themj fori find that chey ibeknot to their principle of Liberty,, butonly in receiving it: ;hey will not give it (if they had the power of giving it) unto o- thers. For ought lean obferve, with all their ErrQurs. they la- bour to poyfon others where they come. My mind will be much fatisfied when I (hall know you have read thefe lines , concluding my duty ofdifcovering Incendiaries,^, difcharged till further j-« occafions be offered. The good Lord look upon us, andfave us ^* from thefe inftruments of fafety. I defire your fpirituaH health and comfort, with all temporall happineffe, and fucceffe : Sept. 24. 1646. Yours to be commanded. A godly young man of Summer fetjhire^ot Vorfetjhire , at whole houie a Lieutenant of a Company of Sir Thomat. Fairfax Army quartered , told rae,that this Lieutenant maintained thefe Opini- ons 5 1 That women might preach,and would have had a gentle- woman in the houfe ("this young mans fifter) to have exerciied her gifts , telling her he knew (he had gifts and had been alone a me- ditating. 2, That ifawomans husband was afleep or abfentfrom her, (he might lye with another man, and it was lawfull 5 for fleep was a death ; and prefled it upon a young Gentlewoman in the houfe, whole husband was then at London, 3. That it was un- lawful! to kneell in prayer, which was maintained by him, or fome others of his company; and when they prayed, they prayed leaning. There is a godly Minifter of fome place more then ordinary, that Errors pudencie, that theyfhoulddaretodo it in the midft of fo many learned men, and in a place fo famous for learning; and that in the publike (chools in Oxford to preach daily , and that againft humane learning as they did for fome time ; and after complaint of it to the Genera! 1 as a thing fo fcandalous and odious to all in- genuous men, and his forbidding their preaching in the School ; yet the Souldiers continue ftill to preach in Oxford daily in a great faou(e where they meet for that end; and"! fpak with one that came from Oxford in AugAah who told me they preach. now daily in Chr'tfls Church ( one of the greatest Colledges in Oxford ) in a kind of Gallery, where the fbuldier ftands that preaches, many h fitting on the flairs , others ftanding below 5 and this -young man heard one of them preach there, difcouriing on thefe words: God mttld require the lift of mm at a Beafi $ this Souldier expoun- ded ■ ■ I I - I I - I ■■ . .. 24 A New and further Difcovery of the ~ded thac by Beafts was meant a wicked man. There are two boneft men , who laft July told me, that they had heard an Independent who lives at Dover fay k , and Co hado- ehers , that the Scots and the AfTembly were pefts and plagues of the Common wealth , the Afiembly were a company of diflem- blers, the Presbytery was Arm-chriftian j and fpeaking of the Minifters, called them, that ugly tribe. A Comnwnder in the Army of known fidelity and Worth , told me, he had heard Matter Peters preach in Hedington Fort , againft the City of London j incenfing the Army againft the City ; telling them, that after you have done all this, they would not hive you live nor enjoy any places. Jul j the firft 1-6*46. I was told by force of the Aldermen of the City,whowere come that day from the Seffions, and from hea- ring the cauie , that a great Sectary was brought to the Seffions of Peace before the Lord Major, for that having woed a Maid to be his wife, and he profering to be her husband, me contenting ; he tooke her by the hand , and for his wife ; but faid , he would be hanged rather then be married by a Prieft ( calling all our«Mini- fters Priefts) and perfwading her , there was no ground in the word to be married any other way: whereupon they both confenting, came together ; but afterwards , he caft her off and would hav e nothing to do with her , nor allow her no meanes : This woman being brought a bed of two Children in her travel!, related this, and was ready to take her Oatb,the Children were his, and thac ihe never knew any man but him. Some who come from the Army tell me, that the Sectaries in the Army do exceedingly raile againft the Cicy and Citizens, and -call them the Sect of the Adamites. A Citizen of Londm oFgood ranck , told me and divers others $ that he being at Bofton Faire but a little before, there was a Com- mander a great Seftary , (pake to many whom he met with, againft the City of London , how the City was quite turned againft the Parliament, and was come to that pa fle, that if the Army came neere London to lye neere them and to awe them , they would raife an Army to (et them further off*; and if the Army went north- ward againft the Scots , they would help the Scots againft them 5 ^this Citizen faid , he taking notice of ic, ipake freely to this Commander, Errors and Proceedings of the SccJarkf* 2 5 Commander, and told him his mind of the fairhfuJneOe and fide- lity of the City; and at the fame time this Citizen related ( viz. the fourth day oXAugufr ) that ic was given in to fame Committee or members of a Committee, under uvo hands, that this Omcer \ laving an Order for ib many Barrels of Powder and a Tunne of Match out of the Tower to fend to fuch a place , he never fent fc , but (bid it 5 and afterwards being ibid again , it came to be brought totheTower^nd fome knew it to be inch Powder that was given out by order to fuch a man : and Co it came to be difcovered. I was told it by two perfons of quality , a Member of the£roii'e of Commons , and a mini tier , that feme of the Sectarian Souldi- ers fpeaking ofthe Remonl France, called my Lord Major Pvafcall; and:ortho(e who had a hand inthePumonftraiice , they hoped ere long to have the palling them cue of their houses. AngH ft the 30. Two perfons o^qualicy and worth, a Reverend Mini/rer,and another perf ay, Mafter femey^znd fome others of their way, and what they related wereiuch things that they had heard from their own mouthes often. Miftris Attaway held that the Book of Efdras and fome other Apocryphall Books were Canonicall Scriptures; that fhe fhould never dye, and that fhe fhould bring forth Children at femfalem^nd that at ferufalem fhe fhould meet with Chriit,and enjoy him vifibly; and this Miftris AttaVoay had fo perfwaded Jenney that he beleeved he fhould never dye, and both Miftris aAttaway and ftmey held themfelves as pure from finne as Chrift was, when he was in the fiefh ; and this Miftris AttaVeay told Mafter femey fhee had Letters fent her from a Prophet^who was fhut up for a time , and none could come to him; only there was a Maid one Ellen, whom they among themfelves cali'd the Prophets Maid that went to him , and Miftris oAtta-way fhe wed fenney thefe Letters, which were to this effect hat (lie muftgo to ferufalem, and he muftgo with her, and he fhould be a Preacher there, have a great hand m repairing ferufalem, and there Abra- ham, Ifaac and Jacob fhould comedown from Heaven, and meet them; and this Prophet by the end of this Summer fhould come forth with power ; For the prefent there was none that was an Adminiftrator and difpenfer with power,but this Prophet fhould come with power, and do greater works then Chrift, faving only he ihouldnot dye for thefinncsofmen : This Miftris AttaVeay had a great parchment role, wherein many things were written, and this was to be given to fenney ;, and this femey beleeved all Miftris Attaway told him as rully as might be, that he fhould never dye,tfr. This Miftris Attaway alfo gave out that there fhould comefhips from Tarfbijhto fetch away all the Saints to ferufa- lem, and all that would not turne fewej fhould be deftroyed, and this whole Land fhould be deftroyed,and therefore fhe would goe away before hand to efcape : This Jenney, Miftris Attaway and fame of their Tribe held no hell but what was in the confeience; 'fht fouks mortal!- they held the Book of Efdm had great things Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 27 things in it to them who had the fpirit to underftarid it, and that there was Efatu world and Jacobs world ; this was Efans world, but Jacobs world was comming fhortly,wherein all creatures {hall be faved ; And this Prophet who wasfirutup,was to come forth to preach this new Doctrine of generall Reftauration and Salvati- on of all ; and though all fhould be faved, yet there fhould be de- grees of glory between thofe that have been Saints »f they fhould be more glorious) and thofe who were the wicked,though now reftored : Thisfemey held from that Scripture in Cfenef. where God faich I will make him an help meet for him, that when a mans wife was not a meet help, he might put her away and take ano- ther; and when the woman was an unbeleever (that is not a Secta- rie of their Church )fhe was not a meet help, and therefore Jenney left his wife,and went away with Miftris At t away. : A Commander belonging to the Army,told me laft July he had feen fome of the Sectarian Preachers, preach lately with their hats oiyind fitting; he told me he had heard Matter Qradock-> Mafter Peters ,zn& other fuch Preachers iniinuate into the fouldiers, flatter them all kind of wayes, telling them what they had done, what fame they had atcheived, how they had conquered he Kingdom e, and particularly a little before,he heard Mafter Meters preaching thus,you who have conquered the Kingdome, done all this fervice5 and now when you have done all this might expect your Arrears, look to enjoy your Liberties, yea and expect preferments, good -places as you have well deferved, it may be,you (hall be caft into a ftincking prifon 5 but if it {hould be fo,tis the will of God, and yee muft provide to beare it. There is one Thomas Collier a great Sectary in.the Weft of Enr glajtdyWhom I have fpoken of in the fecond part of Cjangrjwa, and have printed fome Letters of his in this third part*. I-ruvefecn ^^.JiVp*' a Book of his printed in the year 1^45. called certain Que res, Qmain qu n or Points now m controverfie examined, wherein among other ies. ~ C" Errours laid down by him,he makes Baptizing the Children of the * pag.i g.jp0 faithfuli not only to be * vaine, but eviH audfmfull, yea thecom- iniiTion of Baptizing Children to come from the Divell or Anti- Chrift,orboth; And fecondly, that Magiftrats have no power at all to eftabliih Church-Government, or to compel! any to the Goverment.of Chrift by any humane power ; anduponoccafion j^22. iy> E z of 28 A New and further Djfcevery of the of difcourfing of the power of the Civill Magift rate, what hee ftiould do now religion is corrupted, and the Magiftrates endea- vour is to Reforme it, and to this end have called an Aflembly of ' Learned men to aiTift them in this work : This Learned Matter fdge 27. Collier ii he might be thought meet, makes bold to prefeatthefe P 2? three words in this cafe to the Parliament. ™ ' Firft,To difmifle that Aflembly of Learned men, who are now [r~f* call'd together for to confult about matters of Religion ; and the reafon this Learned Clark gives, is becaufe he cannot conclude that God hath any thing to do there for them ; he knowes no rule in the Book of God for fuch an Aflembly, and therefore cannot expecl a bleiling. pa?e2%~ The fecond Word, Togo on in fubduing of Antichriftian ene- mies, fo farre as by Civill Law they have power ; for there muft by this, or fome other meanes be a defolation upon the tenth part of the City. The third Word is, That the Parliament would give the King- dome to the Saints ; and for who gives the Kingdom to the Saints, fo it be done, Mafter Collier will not much difpute whether T^ge 19, it be the Lord Jefus immediatly, or Jefus by a Parliament; only thus much he would have men take notice that by the Kingdome £5* is meant an externallKingdome,for the Saints ftiall poflefle that as well as the fpirituall Kingdome and Government of the Church ©fChrift. famwfrerfi Hence we may fee by Mafter C^Vrj words, that his Saints, viz,, thofewhom he hath defcribed before in the former part of his Book, Separates, Anabaptifts do look for from the Parlia- ment>that they fhould give the Kingdome to them and all tempo- rail power and rule, and take it out of the hands of all others ; So 13* that the King, the Parliament (unleffe there be fome of Mafter Colliers Saints among them) the Judges, and all men who by the Lawes under the King and Parliament, have any Civill power of rule in the Kingdome, muft have it taken from them and given to the Sedaries Saints: Yea I conceive by Colliers words not only- ■England,, but Scotland and Ireland arc to be taken from the King, and to be given by the Lord Jefus immediatly, or by Jefus by a Parliament to the Saints; which whether it be not fo or no, I 1 we the. Reader to judge upon tranftribing Colliers own word^ • , r 1 » *. ~ where Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 29 L where giving his fecond word of advice to the Parliament of go- ing on to fubdue Antichriftian enemies, fo far as they have power, becaufe there muft by this, or fome other meanes be a defolation upon the tenth part of the City, he interprets his meaning in thefe following words, which Ithinkjo be England, and thofe Domi- nions belonging to ^Scotland and Ireland. / conceive this to be the time that the Kingdcme is to to taken from him, who jh all arife and' fubdue three Kings,that is Kingdoms, freaking great words, thinking to change times and Laws; but the Judgement Jball fit and take away this Dominion toconfume it, and deft roy it to the end, Dan. 7. 216.. Therefore let not your hearts faint, neither your hands draw backed od willfinijh his Works The third Word, is, that they Would give the Kingdcme to the Saints, Dan. 7. 27. who gives the Kingdome to the Saints ? The judgement that fulls down the power and Kingdome of the one, gives to the other. Whether it be the Lord fefus immediatly, or fefus by a Parliament, I Jhall not much dilute, but leave it to your c on fi derations; Only thus much take notice, that by the Kingdome , is not only meant an ext email Kingdome, for the Saints Jhall poffeffe that, but the Jpirituall Kingdome and Government of the Church of Chrift, &c. This Collier (as it appears by his Letter before mentioned) is a Matter Seclarie, a man of great power among them, and hath Emiffaiies under him,whom he fends abroad and commands to go into feverall parts, as Syms, Row, &c, and fupply his place in his ablence ; and as you have heard of him formerly, fo fince my fe-> cond part of Gangrtna came abroad, a godly Minifter out of the Well: writ thus to me of jollier ; He was driven out of the Illand of Cjarnefy, becaufe of his opinions and turbulency,as a godly Mi- nifter of that Illand told me, and he could not deny it himfelf when I asked him' the queftion : He hath done much hurt in Li- mington, Hampton, Waltham, and all along this Country. I had once a conference with him upon two queftions for five houres fpace (fufficient time for one to trouble himfelf with fuch a vain unruly tauiker. Firft, concerning the. Morality of theSaJjbath* Secondly, concerning Baptifme; in both which he denyed, I af- firmed : It would require agreat deal of time to give you an ac count of all particulars; and the truth is, if I fhould, fome paflfages would have an ill reflex upon fome men of note and power, with whom; 3$ A New Arthur Hazelrig, to whom he had formerly relation J who as he was reading in the Scriptures> that paffage, The f^cret of the Lord is with them that feare him*y fome of them flood up and faid that was a lye ; and fo info lent \vastheircarriage,that this good Minifter was glad to get him out of the way. And as their carriage was fo in the durch, fo a Townfman who rented the Tythes, being upon, horfe in the \ field looking after his Tyth corne, fome of thefe fouldiers coming into the field asked who that was, and being told he was a man that came to gather Tyths,they came to him,and one took one leg, and another the other,and others laid hands on him in other parts, and threw.him off his horfe abufing him, and hazarding the limbs of the man,becaufe he. renting the Tythes,came to look after, them. Whenthe Army was marching from Exeter for Oxford, upon their marching, there was aFaft kept by the Army, and upon that Fail day divers of the Sectarian fouldiers inftead of keeping it we re. drinking, all. the day in Ale-houfes and many of them were ftark drunk. Of this there was a Letter written from a worthy Colonell in the Army,wliich was communicatee! to divers perfons ofworth,andaworthy:Member oftheHoufe of Commons who ^ tead it,and knew all the particulars,of place,time,e^. related it to me in the hearing of a Member of -the feme Houfe. *. A Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 3 3 A Cope of a letlter to a tittle fent to me from two worthy ML nifters in Norwich. Sir , TThe fccond part o£Gangr — ■ A Ce^k ofd Letter fent from fome of the Committor of the City c f Exeter ^ rifam of t kit Citj kei e in Lonchn. C^Entlemen.vve referre.yxm to our former Letter fent you by J poft^vherein we .gave you. information of the iinprifojiixigjof oar hpneft Citizens by the ^epvityObvdrnoqr^fidGtiicersof that Garrifon* they yet 'continue in cvftody.; The Committee was re- fufedto have the knqwiedg of the caufeoftbdrimprifortmens. Our Conftabies are pppofed in doing their duties >i a a word, they do openly contemne , and violently incroach upon, the civill S»wer contrary to. former orders fentthem;. Yefterdav tkey marxded mote monies of us for theGarri&n.; VVedowhatin G m 42 A New and farther V if cover) of he us lyeth to oppofe them in their undue courfes. But the infolen- cieofthis day is fuch, that we thought it our duty to make this prefent difpatch to you, doubting what a day may bring- forth. The caufe is thus ; we taking notice of the frequent preaching of Captaines at the Cafde, Guild-Hall, and in private houfe's, and of their drawing away of the people, thought it necefTary, with the advice of Minifters, to have the Ordinance of Parliament of the twentiefixth of Aprils 1645. to be publifhed, which prohibits all fuch to preach as were not ordained Minifters, &c. which ac- cordingly was read at the Cathedrall before the morning Sermon ^^ this day ; The Deputy Governour hearing it, commands it to be & read the fecond and third time, the Officers jeering and fcoffing all the time of the publifhing of it, in contempt both of the Ordi- nance and of the Committee. After the Sermon was ended, the Deputy Governour moft prefumptuoufly (lands up in the Bifhops feat,and takes upon him publikely to give the meaning of the Or- dinance, and faith aloud, that it did not forbid their meetings, and that in the after-noones they would have their exercife in the Caftle (which accordingly they had) and that he had the com- mand of the City, and of all that were in it - with many words to the like effect: After ftands up Captaine Leivtenant Vermim, and openly faies that in defpight of men they would have their exercife, adding at laft with fubmiflion to Authority ; Prefendy after Matter Parfons, who publifhed the ordinance wasfent for, and although he fhewed the order of the Committee, yet he was fent to prifon by the Deputy Governour;. the whole Church was in an uproare and the City is indiforder ; what the conference ^ may be we know not \ we have been and ftill are affronted by the Garrifon,and the civill power is in a manner trampled under Foot* We conceive the publike preemption to interpret an Ordinance of Parliament, and to commit to prifon the publifoer of it, is fuch an acl as cannot be paralled in the whole Kingdome. We have written to Mafter Prideaux very earneftly about it, and have de- fired him to impart it to the Committee of the Weft; the like requeft is made to you, that fo fome fpeedy courfc may be take** berein,and an anfwer returned to Exon* 2. Auguft, 1646. Your affecTioned friends and fervants Samml Clark* Rkhwd Stanford Richard Gr otfwg. J -•- yr^t-r ~~ ? This Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 45 This is a Coppie ef a former fent M night by a Poft at nine of the clock imder Mr Prideaux cover; the packet was fuperfcrihed for the Parliaments fervice, which packet going out of Eaft-gate was ftopt by the Officers of the Garrifon, and was broken open; the Poft-boy wasftopt about three houres between Eaft-gate and the draw-Bridge, and then a packet was returned, and put into his hands againe, and he willed to depart, the boy being unwiiling,had twelve pence given him and fo went away. We are in great hafte, and have fent this bearer exprefle, unto whofe relation we refer your for more particulars ; He that com- manded the guard gives us certain information that the packet wasftopt as above, and broken open, and he prom ifes to bring threes or foure more to teftirie it. Ex on. 3. of Auguft, 1646. One of the clock. Since upon examinations, we finde the Hoping and opening the Letters to be true. UPon Sunday being thefecond ofzAugufl, 1646. about nine or ten of the clock in the night,the aforefaid Committee had difpacht away a packet and Poft,dire<5ted to the Honourable Ed- ward Prideaux, a Member of the Honourable Houfe of Commons, and at the foot of it fuperfcription for the Parliaments fervice, which packet w&scleared out of the Gates by two Conftables of the faid Ckie, whofaid to the Poftiliian, goe haften on thy way, to which fomeofthe guard faid, and the plague goe with them,but Captaine Vernon and fbme others laid in waite between the Port, and the out-work, to intercept the Poft, and took from thePoftrllion the faid packet, which immediatiy was opened by them^and reading the fame they laughed and jeered thereat; after- wards they commanded fome Musketeers to guard the Poftilion that he may carrie the packet to the Deputy Governour, which they did; and after three houres time the foid Captaine Vernon and ibme others returned with a Packet, directed to Colonel! Ham- man, or in his abfence to Colonell or in his ab- fcnee to—-— When the packet was 'delivered, the Po- ftiUkm replyed this is not my packet, I will not goe with this G a but* —————— ——*».»~.«i—-^—.l — ' ■ 44 A New and further Difcoverjof the - — — — — — — — .. — ■ i . but returne to my Matter to acquaint him thereof, whereupon fome of the Captaines faid, Sirahget you gonc^and withail gave himaftiiiling. ^ — — ~— : & Copies of letters, and extracts of Letter smitten from the Ar~ Myjjarifon Tow ms and othtr farts of the Countries unto Friends /^London andWctimmfiex^offcermffg fome Officers ^Souldiers^and Preachers tvho we Sectaries. Gentlemen, NOtwithftanding all orders,they perfift inincroatchingon the civill Authority; Yefterday in the Market they fet Sir .Fran* cis Fulfetts fonne a Minifter in the flocks, under the gallowes be- fore the Guild-hall for being drunk^ refiifing to accept of five {hillings tendered-by him for the poore; he deferved punifhment, but it was out of their cognizance, and their jeers, and fcofts did plainly manifeft they aimed and envied more at the function then at the fault, We have fince the departing of the expreffe, had full teftimony of the intercepting, breaking open and reading of our Letters by Captain Leivtenarit VernumyzxA fome other of the Gaptaines, and fending another directed packet to Governour Hammd inftead thereof; And this returne they fet a guard on the Poft-houfe, and had we not been very vigilant and dilligent, wefhould have mifled out Letters, They foare very high, and if their wings be not dipt 'twill be very dangerous, but if the pro- verbe be verified,pride muft have a fall. - MiM Auguft, 8. 1646. Your truly affe&ionate Friends, Samuel CUrkz Adam Bennett Richard Saunders. Richard Crojfwg. fames Gould* Gentlemen, The Martiahfts begin againe to fhew themfelves in their former colours, and reaflume. their late ufurpation; They Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. Theyhaveof late rcfcucd aprifoner from the Scrgiants Arreft : ThelaftFaft day one of the Captaines affronted the Conftables in their office in obfervance of the Ordinance for theFaft, not permitting them to queftion fuch as riddeand- travelled on that . day. Sxon, Auguft, 18. 16^6. Your friends and fervants, . Samuel Qlark^ f ames Gould, Richard Saunders. Richard Crojpngs. — - - — — ■ — — i ■ A C&pieofd Utter written from toore went firft into the water and he afte* him,fo.that he for his part would not allow of our Baptifme, - ~-^ — — r— : * The Letters taken ahmi fxm: TothcSaluo k'thc OrJerand.felloWiinpor^iC £v)ff>;T- in'Tanfitov. "\7our.,deare Brother Thorns CoUier^ defireth the increafe 1 of .grace and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jefiis Chrift. Deare Brethren #nd Sifters, I have not had an ^Opportunity of writing unto you until! now, although my fpirit hath been up*o the Lord for your continually : The Lord hath manifested his pretence with me exceedingly in my journy - I de- fire the Lord to raife up your hearts in tkankfullnefle, he hath ga- thered Saints in Pook by me, 14. took up the Ordinance at once, there is like to be a great work, and confirmed the Churches in otherplaces; lam not yet got fo farasZW**, but IlliaUlex- pecl to morrow : Dearely beloved my defire and prayer to our Father on yoiar behalf is> that your foules may be fatisfied with his fuiinefle, that you may live above, and then your foules (hail not want comfort ; And my exhortation to you is to wait upon the Lord in his own way, and not to look forth into the world ; there is .bread enough in your Fathers houfe- There he hath promifed his prefencc^thoughyou feem to want gifts, yet you {fell not want the prefence of your Father, your Jeiiis., if you wait uponhim.; There are. two Brethren I fuppole will yifit yon from Hampton^ Brother £imsy and Brother' Row, whom I defire you to receive as from the lord. ; The imihnmited power of the. Presbyterians is denyed H 2 them 52 A New and further D j fcovery of the them, of which you (hall hcare more Shortly.. I defire to be re- membred to aU my kind friends with you and at prefent reft 6#fW, April 20. .164^ Your deare Brother in the faith andfel- lowfnipofthe Gofpel, I (hall fee you as fpeedily as poffible I may.. Thorny Collier,. To the Saints in the order and fellowjhif oftheGoffiel, MY deare ones in the Lord Jefus, I falute you, defireing him who is our head and husband, our life and liberty, our ail and in all, to gather up our foules more abundantly into the glo- rious unity and fellowfhip of the Son of God , that you may not live upon thefe lower things, which are but inftruments to con- vcigh light tnd love unto usjmeane even Ordinances or the like, which indeed arebutasailiell without the kernell, further then wee enjoy Chrift in it. My deare ones, you are in my heart con- tinually, and my .defire is to be with you as foon as pofible I can, to impart fome ipirituall gifts iuho you, and to en;oy fellowship- with Jefus Chrift in you $ but what is this? your are upon the heart of Chrift, nay, ingraven upon his hand, andfhallbehadin everlafting remembrance before him. I am much in hafte at pre- fent,the Poft being coming forth of Town, only I have fent you; thefe few lines and two Books here inclofed3 as a remembrance of my love: Idelireto be remembred to all my deare friends with you,and at prefent reft and remaine Your deare Brother in the faith London^izy 2. 1646. and fellowiTupoftheGofpeih Tho. Qoilii) To his Friend William HeyntonButtlerwthe faftle at Taunton thefe. D 7'.' ynu Eare Brother in the Lord Jefus Chrift, with the reft of our deare friends with yq\\ my kind toye xsmmbid ; my defire to Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 5 3 to you is that you will receive this bearer Matter Reeves as a deare friend3forhe is a Member in the order and fellowship of the Gofpel with the Saints in Taunton : I need not tell you of the oppofitions here in Taunton^ our Brother will tell you the partis cular paflfages ; our Governour does labour to beat us down, and dothfay^ that any meeting in private,is meerly to croffe the pub- like meetings, and that it is not out of tendernefle of conference, but damnable pride that we do ; but this doth not any way caufe us to draw back,or fadden ourfpirits, for our fpirits are carri- ed above the feare of men. All our friends are in good health, foTremainc Your deare Brothe*m Maj/16. 1646.. Wiilkw Ha j ward* . u— . — , , , ■ . _ MOft kind and loving Brethren and Sifters in the Lord Jefus; myindeared love remembred unto all the Saints* unto you I writ which are called unto the Lambes fupper,who are arayed m pure fine linnen, and (lining, which is the righteouftiefle of Saints; grace be with you and peace from God our Father,and from the Lord JeTus Chrift ; he ye alio patient therefore, and fettle your hearts for the coming of Chrift is-at hand, which-are kept for an inheritance immortal! and undefikd, and that withereth not, re- ferved in Heaven for you \ and though if wee will have Chrift*, we muft be tried , it.fhall be found unto our praife and honour and glory at the appearing of Iefas Chrift. I rejoce that the Saints otTamton, do break forth and tell of the in-comings of God in Chrift-upon your fouls, having gone through many trialls and per- fections; you may fpeak the more of the free love of God in Chrift, preferving you, and giving you your life for a prey ; I do defire Chrift to declare more and more the hidden things of God by his free grace in Chrift; yee have not chofen Chrift, but I have cbofenyoti, febn3 15. id. And I re Joyce that Chrift is beginning to fetup houfe-keeping, and his Saints (ball not want while Chrift have one penny ; Come buy without mony,gold tried and white raiment, and anoint thine eies with eie-falve that thou maieft fee : Chrift hath made us fct together inheavenly places 5 and in the third 54 d Nov and further Dlfcovtr) of the third of the Galatians Y& being baptized mo Chrift haw fxt on Chrift-, and the Church, I m'eane the Saints, who are Chrifts Temple , is IBM travelling in birth mitillChrift be formed in ttott; and the fpirit of God will not forfake -you, ' uiitiil yoiar mortail bodies fell appeare before Chrift to be glorified ; then them that winne Saints to Oh rift are called Angels, ReveLi. and Angels Hie in hafte, fo I ren\ Yours,as you are Chrifts, Nichols Bodi*\ There was another Letter alfo taken about this StmsY written from one form Pool, for the ftrenghtning of the Saints in Tamtox tofutFer perfection , comforting them, that feeing that Chrift by as great a power as that which railed him up from the dead, had brought them into the way, they might bee aflured that by that fame power he would carry them through that way to the wayes end : But the Letter being but weake, and having only ge- neral! thingsj will not trouble, the Reader with any more of it. *m~i - — : _~ T'Here is one Mr Tandy a great Seflary, who hath been rnthe North parts and at Tar^, with whom a godly and learned Minifterof Tork& by writing and Letters palled between them, hath had fome debates ahout P^dobaptifme, and hath maintained againft him thele Thefes or Pofkions. i. That the Covenant that God made wkh^ih-aham andhts feed, Gene ft 17. was the Covenant of Grace or new Covenant. 2. That there is . an outward being in this Covenant 3 which doth intitle to theiignesand fealesofit. ?. That Circumcifton was, and Baptifme is a figne, and feale of this Covenant. 4. That Infants being the feed pf Abraham were in that Co- venant, and fo were circumcifed ; and fo Infants being the ked of keleevers (whether in truth or in profefllpn only} are within this Covenant, and therefore are to be baptized. I have feen Letters that have parted between them, 'tis too long to fet down the grounds 3 and the Replies given by this learned , £ Brrours and Proceedings of the Series, 5 5 learned Minifter to him about the point of Poedobaptifme, the Jewifh Sabbath, with other of his conceits : Iftiall briefly ex- tracl: a few pafTages out of Matter Tandles Letters which I have taken out of the originals themfelves, they being fent to me; but firftof all I fhallgive the Reader an extrad of that Letter fent from that learned and godly Minifter to a worthy Member of the Houfeof Commons, acquainting him with the true proceedings between them, and wi{hing they might be communicated to me. SIR* Not being able (as I wrote the laft week) to fend my Sermons about Pcedobaptifme, I have fent fome Papers whereby you may perceive fomething that hath palled betwixt me and an Ana- baptift,yea (as his owne writings wiiUhow) more then anAnaba- ptift. He was a Minifter before thefe times, and is (as I hav£ heard) by name mentioned in Mafter Edwards his gangrana. I ivitTi he had a fight of his Letters,, whereby he might have a more cleare and full character of the man, then yet perhaps he hath: Its faid that he doth earneftly defire all to give him what inform a* tion they can in this kind, and truly I think he deferves to be in~ couraged, and aflifted all that maybe. It is a fad thing , and much to be deplored, that fuch boldneife and activity fhould be. «=~1|: in fo many to broach and abett fuch horrid and monftrous Errors (as it feems) are now daily vented and maintained, and that fo few fhould be found valiant for the truth,ready to fta'nd up in de- fence of it. , _ -. SIR-, LEts lay afide tradition,, cuftome, the reputation of learnings and all felvifh refpects, and Lets fpeake and write fa as know- ing that we muftihortly account to Jefus Chrift for all that we build, whether it be hay or ftubble, gold or wood.. Formy part I am thus farre convinced by comparing Gods cleare providence, and fome prophelies in the Revelations, which viewed together fnowme whereabouts wc are,. that I am confident within thefe very few yeers I iliall fee him whom our foul loveth , and much* will it go to my heart if I either oppofe a truth, or maintaine an fcrror. Sir, lets look about us, the vaile is not yet taken oft, in fomething moft good men have been blinded, it may be in this for one $6 A New And further Difccvery of the one, 'tis good toae tenderly jealous; pardon me that I thus ex- hort you, I fee fo many temptations that ftrongly invite even godly men to contend for Poedobaptifm, and fo farre do I fee alfo into the myftery of Antichrifts fitting in the Temple of God as God, that I cannot but give a caution to the godlieft man upon earth that undertakes the defence of this pra&ife. Fourth day of die week. Yours Th&p Tandf* i SIR, Received yours as I take it upon the third of this week : I could not get retirement and leafure to perufe it till this fe- ventli. J accout it a Sabbath dayes work to plead for truth, and I am heartily content that Jefiis Chrift who fearcheth the fecrets of all hearts, ihould be both judge of it, and of my heart in 4ifcuiHng it. Now in this Letter MafterTmdy fals upon {peak? ingtothsfeThefes fent by Af after C« as that the Covenant mentio- ned, Gen. 17. rras the Nero Covenant, which Maftcr Tandy denies, And in his tAnftoers to thefe Thefcs toWarAs tfo end of his Letter faith th/u.Thsit as in Circumcifion which was a peculiar worihip to the time of the Law nothing was done in it but by command, fo in Baptifme which is a peculiar part of the Gofpel worfhip no- thing is to be done but by peculiar warrant now; fince then the command of Chrifb bears nothing, but the Baptifme of Beleevers, none but fuch are to be baptized ; nor they neither as the cafe A Seeker. ftands now, till we fee fome come abroad with a clear Commifli- on, to go about fuch a work. At the clofe I would wifli you a- jnongft other things, to confider this : Suppofe the Saints as they were gathered by the preaching of the Gofpel in the Apoftles jdayes had been ftill in all ages to this day carefull to baptize none but Beleevers, and had kept themfelves in as much as lay in them pure from receiving any other into their communion, and •had worshipped God folemnly upon the old feventh day, as upon Gods Sabbath. I would fa ine know what fault you could rind with this Church fo doing. Sir, if I can gaine leifure, which I confeffe is very fmall, I will endeavour either before or after my /departure hence3 to let you fee according to that which the Lord hath Enom and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 57 kath revealed to me, -how the myftery of iniquity vailes us, m? and tke whole world befide. Toms tmfeinediy ■ p. r. THe Minifter formerly fpoken offends to M Tandy a large and full Anfwerto this laft Letter, wherein he confutes him in ail particulars expretfed in. his Letter, which Anfwer becaufe tis fp large,confifting almoft of a (heet of paper clofe written, I flial for- bear to print,and fhall only give the Reader a fmail part of it, pk* that which he faith to that part about Circumcifion and Baptifm. You take it for granted that Chfifts command bears nothing but the baptifm of beleevers; but how will this be proved? That Chrift commanded fceleevers to be baptized,ye Sronly beleevers being of age when they enter into Covenant^this is*grantcd;but that there- fore abfoluteiy none but Beleevers raftdifi Beleevers) by Chrifts command are to be baptized, it followes not. . IfChriil had continued Circumcifion (till, faying, viz. Baptifme; The Covenant being in- iargedj viz. to all Nations, fhould the figne and feale of it beo I {trait- 58 A New and further Difcoverj of the ftraitned, viz,, to them thatareofyeares? yea an inlargcment of the figne and feale we find, viz. to females, but a reftriclion of it to thofe of yeares we do not find : Yea when Chrift bids bap- tize Nations, Matth. 28.19. does not that comprehend Children > are they no part of the Nation ? And if the Children of beleevers be not in the Covenant, and to receive the token of the Covenant, then {hall there be no difference betwixt them and the Children of Infidels, that one (hall have no more birth-priviledge then the ©ther,but the Apoftle teaches otherwifc, 1. CV.7.14. A letter of Mr Tandy, to the Mimfttr upon receip of the above mentioned Papers. Sir, I Am making ready for my departure hence, and I have only fo much leafure as to read yours, by reafon of the multiplicity of occafions that take up the refidue of my ftay.How God will be pleafed to afford me fucceffeinmv endeavours with you I cannot tell,but I will not be afraid to fay that I am fure I defend the truth, and yet not I but the fpirit of God that is within me; I know what conftruclion you willbe apt to make of thisexpreilion, but I will referve my defence, till I receive my fore-feen objection. I fend you this to promife you (as God fhall enable me J an anfwer to your Papers, but you rnuft not expect it fuddenly, becaufe I know not what urgencies I may be put to, when I come to my journies end : By this which I have received, T fee you beginne ta heinfomeheate;' you commend me for my free dealing; whe- ther you do it cxsinimo^s liking my freedom indeed, I leave it to God to judge, that ere long will make the world know wherein they do amiffe; but in the interim let me tell you, that after the way that you call Judaifm,worfhip I the God of my Fathers; And T truft in God either to drive you into a neceflky of denying there is any Sabbath day at all to be obferved, or elfe of granting that which I contend for to be the right ;. And if you do the former who is the Aminomian ? Where is the fourth Commande- ment ? If you do the latter, its very probable we fhall meet in the $ther controverfie? fince/cis acknowledged that they both hang #n Errors md Proceedings of the Sectaries* jp on a firing. Sir,(mceyou commendfreedome,I am emboldened to ufe a little more ; Expecl before God.end this quarrell that be hath with the Land, that God will bring all our hearts to fubmit with willingnes to his truth,or elfe he will confiime us.The Lord in his mercy look upon us, and caufe us to fee the things which con- cane our peace; which is the defire of his foule who is Yours wherefoeveryou are Chrifts, ?. Tandy.. A Cop; 2 of a fart of a Letter mitten by a thee Seclmc. Deare Br -ether , TO fulfill yourdefires, There giveyouafewanfwerstoyour proportions : Firft,for this proportion, what diibrder will this produce if there be not prayer in families ? " Anfir. If whole families be Saints then you may pray with them, and pray as often as the fpirit moves you ; But this is the mifery,we have taken up things upon truft, and done what wee thought good, and have not eyed the rule and direction of the worcL 2. Prayer is a naturaH thingfor it is a principle of nature in ail men to call upon God, fo do Turks and Heathens ; but God is a God of knowledge, and what is not of faith is finne; fo thougtr the wicked pray, they being unbeleevers, their prayer is finne : Paul in the Acts reproveth the fuperftitious ignorant worfhip of them there, when he found their fuperfcriptionto theunknowne God, whom s laith he, yee ignorant ly worfiifrhim declare 1 mta you ; fo that ignorant people they cannot pray, they mufthavc God declared unto them. 3.. Wee have no example nor precept in all the Gofpel for Saints to pray with unbeleevers ; when Chrift prayed he took his Difcipies apart; indeed he taught and exhorted all ; fo. the Saints in the Ads they prayed alone from the world ; and Chrift faith goe preach the Gofpel to all, he doth not fay goepray with all j and Chrift nor his Apoftles never prayed with the ,wo rid; theA- poftles taught in their Synagogues and expounded in their Aflem- blks> but not a word of praying with them $ and experience I 2 teachetk 6o A New and further Difcovery of the teachethus how our hearts arc ftraitned, and how wee limit the fpirit (if I may fo fpeak) when we pray with nnbeleevers,, and faith commeth not by praying with them, but by preaching, for faith commeth by hearing: I know no word for the Minifters praying with the world, nor Saints to joynewith them.. Otjeft. But Chrift gave thanks : The Apoftle Paul gave thanks before them all. Arifw* Chrifts thankfgiving was fometimes miraculous, for by his blefHng the creature he did a miracle ; fo the Apoftle's was too, as farre as I know ; for you know how wonderfully after hee and all with them were preferved : Or if we may give thanks with them,it is becaufe all have a right to the creatures reftored them by Chrift, that in away of exhortation orpraife a Saint may informe them therein of their right by Chrift, ObjeB.. But what {hall they do that have families, (hall they he as Heathens? doth not the word fay that he will pour out his wrath upon the Heathen, and the families that call not upon his; Name ? *An[w* That makes nothing for it, for it is not faid that the Heathen and thefe that, know him not, (hall call on his Name ; this is not for it, bus to (hew the mifeiy of thefe that cannot; fure it is fweet for Saints to eye the rule for all that they do: Sure I do not write this that I would diminiili any of the un- beleevers priviledges j for Chrift Jeius knowes my heart is more pitifuli unto them then ever ; but I finde in the word that the Gofpel mult be preached unto them, they muft be exhorted and pitied and prayed for , and Saints muft fhine before them by a The reft was torne away by a Sectary, it was figned J/. *£>». '' ' ' P/j^^the5.dayofthefecondmoneth. 1645:, j And fubferibedthus, To her Loving Brother Nichols Qouch m Dartmouth, This Couch is an .Enfigne in Dartmouth Ammad* Emufs and Proceedings of the Se& tries. 6 i Animadvert on thislaji tetter by mj of Confutation. /T hankfgiving is made a part of Prayer as well as the o^ JL ther thsee, Petitions , InterceiTions, &c. i Tim. 2.- i , 2. v. Jtfs2j.3$. Paul gave Thanks to God in the prefence of them' all, where in the Ship by many paffages of that chapter,, Atts 27. particularly the two firft verat is evident they were not ail belee- vers,and fo Chrift ^/?.6.io.ii.^.gave Thanks among them ail,and Tetafide the Difciples,ther's no ground to think any of them were beleevers, but called the multitude,men, and fuch iikephrafes, not Difciples : In 1 Corinth, 14. where the publike meetings of Chri- ftians are fpoken of, and feverall parts of worfhip. defcribed , as Singing, Praying, Prophefying, unbeleevers are fpoken of as com- ing into thofe Aflemblies where thefe parts of worfnip are per- formed, and they are not excluded from being prefent at one more then another,nor beleevers comanded to fufpend Prayer up- on their coming to that any more then Prophefying,but the chap, carries it as free to come in at all, and the Church free to per- forme Praying and Singing as well as Prophefying, notwithstan- ding unbeleevers prefent,compare thefe Yerfes together, 14, 15:, 16.22,23,24,25. As for thofe Anfwers in this Letter ., that ChriftsThankfgiving was miraculous, &c. they are meer fubtcr- fugles , and by the fame reafons men might argue againft all gi- ving of thanks before meat, faying thefe examples of Chrift and Paul were rmraculous, and fo not binding, but with thefe com- pare 1 Tim. 4. 3,4, 5. verfesy how meats are to be received with Thankfgiving, and fancliried by Prayer (fpeaking of meats and drinks) and then conlider Chrift and "Pauls example, and it will fhow tis for our praclife , befides tis fuch a Thanks- giving as hath Prayer and Petition in it for a blelling, as is cleare from the fifth verfe, tis fandified by Prayer, and Pauls Thankfgiving in that twenty feven of the AVts had Petition and Prayer in it, not only for the meat, but to raife up their dejecled minds in the Ship almoft killed with griefe, vide Cat- vinum in locum y Acls 27. 3 5, & Lorimm* 6 1 A Nttv and further Difcovery of the Some Faff ages taken out of a Letter written oat of Oxford (hire, to a Cttizert in London. ■ ONe F /aid newly come to be a Preacher to the Troop of Ma- /or Hmtingtms that now quarters at Aft on Ror cant, preach- ing in that Church on Sunday laft, fane the 14.- on fohnic.iy. Teach ?ne not, I am not yetsfcended; collected from t ho fe words thefe three transcendent points. Firft, That Lay-men, Weavers, Tinckers and Coblers being gifted might be Preachers. Second- ly, Learning was not any rneanes or help to underftand the meaning of the Scriptures. Thirdly, That any Chamber, Barnc or Stable, or other place was as holy as the Church ; and that there was no holynefle in the Temple, for God deftroyed it, nor in any Church. This Flold a youth of twenty yeares, did lie at Matter Culverts the Bookfeller at Ludgate-hiU, Major Middle- tons man did not only rend with his hand the fervice-Book, but cut it with a kqife, and burnt it -in the fire at fehn Chkhes of Kin- fton,znd it fet the Chimney on fire till they quenched it. And they juftifie the burning of the ten Commandements, Creed, Lords prayer, Pfalmes, ninty five Epiftles andGofpels. Iweuld'beC glad to know of Mr Sdward-s the Antagonift of Hereticks what xo do in this matter ; To whom though unknown3 I prefent my love inthe Lord. Jane j6. 1646. A Reverend and learned Minifter living in Oxfordflnre, was byfome inthe Army, andfome of the Parifh confpiring toge- ther, as he was preaching in his Church oppofed and with tumults difturbed. There was. one fouldier a great Champion that did openly and boldly in the Church affirme that he was raifedup of Godimmediatly, and infpired with extraordinary revelations, whom the Minifter by this place of Scripture Matth. 24. 26. Wherefore if they JbaUfity unto jott, behold he is in the defert goe not forth : Behold he k in the ferret charnbers,beleeve it not ; overcame and put to a non-fins , fo that they went out of Church with a irinde of a Diabolicall fury. There Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 6% T^Here is one Mafter "Del a Preacher in the Army, and Sir Thomas Fairfax's Chaplaine, who fummer was two yeares, preached a ftrange Sermon at Lincolne^ and fince put out a Pam- phlet againft uniformity in Religion, calling it Anti-chriftian, <^r. the man preaches and fpeaks much againft Tythes, and yet befides his Chaplains place to the Generally keeps a great living in Bed* fordihire. This Mafter Del Expounding the feven laft verfesof the 54. of Ifaiah, in 2\4arften Church nt^v Oxford before the Generail and Other Commanders and fouldiers, June, j. 1646. being Sabbath day in the forenoon ufed thefe,or the like words itieftec\i//^. 1. There are no more of the Church of God in a Kingdomer then there be fuch as have the fpirit of God in that KTmgdome, 2. Neither Old nor New Teftament do hold forth a whole Na- tion to be a ChurcL 3. Whatfoever a State,an Affembly or Councell (hall fay, ought not to binde the Saints, further then the judgements of thofe Saints (hall lead them. 4. The Saints are thofe that are now ftiled Anabaptift$;Familifts3 Antinomians, Independents, Sectaries, &c. 5* The power is in you thepeople;keepit,part notwithit. 6* The firft party that rofe againft yo^namely^heprophane ones r% of the Land, are already fallen under you; and now there is another party, Formalifts and carnall Gofpellers rifing up a.- gainft you,andI am confident they (hall fall under you, 7. They are willing to become fubjeds to make the Saints (laves, r^ nay they are willing to become (laves themfeives, that they may tread upon the necks of the Saints. 5. His Sermon orexpofitionfor the greateft part of it tended meerly to divifion and fedition. 9. Being fpoken with after his Sermon, by fome of his hearers, touching thefe and fuch like padages, hefaidto this efrecT, his intentions were not according to his exprefiions, and hee thought he had preached only to fouldiers. Peter Mills. Henry Potter. John Haine. Theophilm Smith. Nicholas wUmergolc. There 64 A •• /,page q. And of this Mr Del the Reader may read more of him in a foregoing .Letter written by- a Learned aud godly Miniftor out of the Armv. ■'■ ■ ' - *»,:-•■. S--4T-f. Some :fajf ages taken -om of a Letter writ ten lately hy a godly Mimftria Chdhire, to a worthy friend of his . in London. G. w£^7Wtf£,Lieutenant Colonell £yVr.fouldier,on Sabbath was fevennight,I being abfent,brake to peeces the railes which for thele foure years have been- transformed into feates very commo- dioufly for the parifh, rcfufed to ftay his hand at the inftance of divers, (who told him I would amend it if any thing were amifle) HI* telling them I would fooner fet up fuch things then pull them downe, and that he would do it if I were prefent, andtharthe Church fhould down within a yeare ;. arid reported in the Towne that I was drunk with the blood of the Whore of Rome ; wiiheth hisrongue had cleaved to;the roofe of his mouth when hee had l^p.^ taken the Covenant. And it's much feared that fpirit works migh- *~^p tily in ^.Company and -others.- Five Independents are determi- ned for. the five Captainqs of foot for this Country; judge you' vvhats intended: Great ilriving hath been to get me out of my Leclure here that an Independent might come in ; but I have un- dertaken the Leclure if need be gratis, rather then any evill fall out by my removall. Some Errors and Proceedings of the Seffarie/, 65 Some wffages taken out of a Letter written from a Reverend And Learned Mini'fter in the Nvrtfor ne parts 2 to a wonky freindofhlsin London. AN eminent Parliament man of our Country came downc lately, with whom I had fome conference about Matter Ed- wards, and about the Schifmes aud Blafphemiesthat are broaehed * Ic^ath keen and connived at amongftyou; He faid he thought that Matter ;^„^^ * Edwards was a very wicked man, and did as much as was in him fourhercfie . I Received your Note, and for anfwer thereto , hoping you are not of the ip'ric of thole which tent to Chrifl to intangle him in his wor-ds $ neither am I afrai i to declare * bat my Faith js , for I beleeve the word of God contaimd in the Old aiid New Tefta- menttobea truth j yet in t- em I cannot find that manor an) pare of man is Immortal, but that he is wholly Morcal,ev^n whole man is wholly Mortal and ceafeth to have any lively Being betwixt Deachand iheRe.un.dion: Now if vhis be an Errour thus to beleeve,! require you as you are a Chriftiarijand fpiricualjto reftore ftch a one in thw (piritof meeknefTej and to convince by /ound Do- ftrin the gainfayer, proving by fcripture what you do affirm , and if you do affirm a Mortal foul , chat you will according to ration- ality give Arifwers to ihoft Qu ries ) ou have, and then I will Re- ply, that fo .ve may bring it umo the ballance, and weigh the Scrip- tures on both fides,and fo hoping in a loving and Chriftian way to bring the grounds of thefe to light, I reft. Tbomai Sidebotbmn, This was delivered me Aug, 3 . 16^6. and is the Original. A Copy of a Letter written to me out of Lancafl lire. SIR, THe bearer having a great defire to fee you, 8c my felf a greater defire to ferveyoujfrom whofe faithful labours in the miniftry I have formerly received much good: I make bold to trouble you with thefe rude lines; the inclofed will faithfully informe you of a (ad accident fallen out in Tor^-mire, if the knowledge of it have not come to you from better hands $ my (elf and fbme others are here ingaged with you in the quarrell againft the Sectaries , and (hall indeavour to ferve you and the Church of God according to your defiresexprefled in your Gangrana : I hope erelong to pre- sent you with a true relation of the Independents gathering and conftituting their Church at Sarvtrby in 2>^fhire, which will not be unworthy your confederation 5 we have for the prefenc only \ ?nc Independent congregation in all Lancashire, which never yet K 2 had 68 A Km and further Difcwcryo} the bad Officers, it confifts not of above thirty perfons, moft women, all of mean quallity . JV!r. Eaton of whofe aaivity to promote this way I beleeve you are not ignoranr, hath been the great apoftle to proraose their defign in thefe pans; all our Godly Minifters ge- nerally ftand right, and in their courfe preach a weekly Le&urein Jbancbtftcr againft Independency. If I might have a few lines of direction from you by this bearer how I and the reft of my friends might belt krve you,y ou (hould not fail of the faithfull indeavours of him who is Your real! fervant to love you May 2 j. 1 6+6* andferveyou,. Though I be a Mranger to you and unknown , yet Mr,— * can inform you What credit you may give to me and what I fhall write. Some pa(f ages extra&edout ofi tetter written to me from out of the Kor them parts. TKe Church at Sawerty fince cur conference in March hath been blaiied in its growth; only one fand (he a woman) hath been added, The Church at Birch which is but two miles and a half from Manckfcr, zxowes in number, but yet hath no Officers ("as I can hear of) I (hall hereafter give you a particular account of the Church of VHckenfield ; the ruling Elder there is aSequeftra- tor in Cbxfeire^ and their Deacon a S queftrator in Lancjfliret The * A ^l nr,an l% * Deacon I Hiall fpeedilv bring; Upon the ftage « and make a notable an indci en- diicovery o« his knavery m couzenmg tiie ftate. dent Church. Your real! friend to love Attgaft . 3, 1 .6 4 6*. and fsrve you. ACofy Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 69 A Copy of a Letter written ^,'0/ Yorkfliire concerning an Independent Church int bat Country. SIR, MUch refpe&ed, I give you many thanks for your love when I was wicb you ; fince we have fpoken to Mr. Koats about a conference, buc as yet have no fatisfying Anfwer : So foon as we heard of their intention to chu(e their Officers, we fenc a Note to him to this effcft , That whereas we heard ic was their resolution Co to do fuch a day -y that we deGred him, if that To he could with conveniency to forbear and fufpend the doing ther eof for a time, ir* regard that we defired that there might firft be a conference in the place by fome Godly Minifters , that if it might be, t:^e|true way might be more cleerly found out , that thofe that are deceived or mifled,might be undeceived,ro as we might aflent to them or they to us, fo far as truth might appear fo , his Anfwer was firft before any thing was done that they might have fatisfa&ion given for what wrongs they had fuftained. And 2dIy , he would allow us to propound fome queftions , provided they might do the like a« gainft our way ; fo feeing no better anfwer could behad, and that they refblved ft ill to go on ft ill in their buGnefle : Ic was thought fit by the L habitants of the place for that day to I jck the Chap- pel door, toteftifie their net approving their way , and fo it was done 5 the which doth much mcenfe them : and the laft Sabbotb they had the liberty of the Chappel, wherein they began their E* leftion by the Deacons. And in the forenoon fuch words as thefe was expreffed in his Sermon , as it was given in to me by an honeft undemanding man that was prefenr, in an life of exhortation, to- thofe cba: are joy n- ed together in Societies in a vifible Church, 1 iz. Ton mufl defend one another, at Abraham didLor9 when beamed tbofe that' was born in hk hufe and brouglt up mtb km to dzftndbim 5 and as Mofes did the Hdtcw again f; the Eg)ptian • and as tbofe who defended Paul rrh n be to as in ^rifony again ft tbofe tbjt bjd takfin an Oatb} &c% And de- nounced the puniubnient threatned Zac, 14, 18,19, againft thole who will not joyn into the vifible Churches, faying. It u a Gofte! Tex/5fee, the which me thinks are ftrong applications , and may prove of dangerous confequence, I cannot 7° A New and further D if cover y of the I cannot yet (end you,nor Mr. Holinwonh the Queftions chat are to be difcufied, nor certainly the day when, or whether or no; but Mr. is to be with us next Sabboth, and then if any thing can be pitched, you (hall hear by the firft ; I pray you remember rny refpe&s to Mr* — — « and defire him to take fo much pains if that we do fend directions, to come 5 and alfo I pray write me in two words by the firft what was the ifTueof your conference at Birtcb, and what you hear from above as concerning that way ei- ther fro or con, I have fent you inclofed a copy of the articles of their Covenant according to promi(e« thus with my kindeft re- Ipe&s remembred to your felf and to Mr. Ho/hn>ortby I take leave and reft, Sir, Your afficYionar friend F tb. 9. 1 645. being much obliged, Somepaffages Extratttdout of the Original Letter written from a man of worth in the Army , to a perfon of worth here in London ; which Letter was writ prtfently af- ter the taking of Oxford, BEcaufe a man is a Presbyterian , he (hall be turned out of his command; and to compafle it , they have fent as far as Pen- dtnnii for an Accufer,to London for another,and Bri/lowfor a third, and all they can fay againft our Adjutant General Gray^uiho is an honeft godly Scotfhmanyis^that three quarters of a year fince he was met(as they think)drunk becaufe as they remmember,he faultredin his fpeech, andali becanfe he is Major Generals Officer: Mr. Peters (aid, That was not all,he had made a Faction in the Army by fedu- cing many to the Presbyterian party ; fo it feems its counted a Fa- &ion with them to hold what the Parliament allowes. A moneth fince they have laboured all they can to get hands for « to be Governour of Oxford, and he being here on fee purpose , the Peti- tioners are inftru&edto repair to the Generals at fuch a fet time, and »■ the Tragical comical attor, out of the tyring room of his own contriving,comes and tels the General what a providence lis, that God hath ftirred up thoft good men to fucb good inten- tions Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 71 tions in fuch a juncture of time , when it happened that was there, whereas he and they were Tent for. Sermons are daily preached to this er7c&, That God will rather honour himfelf with a few, then with many ; witnefle this Army, which they hope will be an inftrument to fubdue all that oppofe them , whether under the moft fpecious (how of righseoumefTe , and profeffion of an old ragged religion. A Oppy of fame Letters, and feme ExtraBs of Letters written out cftbe North concerning our Brethren of Scotland and their Armies ; which I have thought jit to pint hecaufe of Letter s^and many Libels that have been printed againflthtm. Some Tajfiges tafyn out of a Letter ( the Original whereof 1 have by me) written by one of the Committee. In York to a friend of his m London. > THe lamentable complaints fpre.ad abroad concerning theSro- tifbTzx'mg the Country fo much^are occafioned from want of money ; for they have no meanes from any part of England to fub- fift, but by Afltiling that corner of England where they now quar- ter : If consideration be had by the Parliament that they are negle- cted in wanting what was promifed, it will cleer them in that mat- ter: As tor their mifdemeanorSjthey go not unpunifhed with them; for there was the other day at Rkhmondonz Cu&vedvfai combitri- tern, for committing uncleannefle againft nature; a week fince they have disbanded Vaudrusks regiment, which were men of the worft carriages in all the Armies ; As for the bufineffe at Ttch[M which fo troubled all men, after full examination of the abufes, it is^fbund that the Snglifhy lrifh^ud Dutch were the authors of the ourrages, ( no Scot was guilty thereof ) and two of them have been (hot to death therefore. My couzen — was laft week at the Court , and is much faxisfied concerning the behaviour of our Brethren both 27 A New and further Difcovery of the both toward King and Parliament; He told me it was wife, fair j and honeft, June 12. 1646. An Extrtifil of a Later written from a Citizen in York/(£•<;. Sure* !y the man would be hardly put to ic to undertake to maintain his own, and yet take away your diftincTJon , who will eaiily (we doubt not)anfwer not only him,buc all others in whom wre febuc little wifdom vbough perhaps fbme wit in inventing,as Apothe- caries are wont for their Boxes, fiich fpecious ticks for their Books as thoie whereof Jacobm Aconim complains in an Epiftle of his to Johannes WolphivA , Nullamadremingeniofi frint , p^a'er- qnam ad fyechfos titubs excogitjudun:^ qnibws ex hominum mambt& bonos libros extcrqueant% ac {uos eorttm loco ob.rudanty et tarn ftolidum eft vufgut, ut quos expuere debttifjh & fnjpiciat3 nonnmquam & Cele- brety&c. Certainly Mr. Sakrntrjh doth not only want a grain but a whole buQiell of fait to feafbrf his unfavory mouih , opened not only againft you, but the reverend, learned and judicious Mr* Gatah^r, together with the whole City* and all the Orthodox Mi- niftery who might ask him mora then ever he would be able to An- fwer, if they mould but chateihize him concerning his Bap tiflne whether it be of the firir, or fecond, or third, or fourth fort ; what think you? is he no* a Sebaptift^a Seeker? We are fure if all be true I IapeJy heard from a good friend of yours in thefe parts , that he thefaid Mr. Sakmrjh ac a meeting of fundry Miniftersoftbis County slk Maid ft one puhlikely profeffed in prefer ce of cheni all his endeavour was to forget whatfoever formerly he had known* and leemed to wifh they might be all of his mind , until! one Mini- Iter who was then and there pre/ent told him merrily , He was but a young man, and fuch as himfelf might happily wifti with IbemU flocks that they had the art of Oblivion^ but as for his own part he L 2 hal j6 A New and further Difavery of the bad too many gray hairs to defire to forget whatfoever he had lear. lied , leaft he might not have time to learn fo much again. The Committee of Kent intended by their late order the fupprcfllon of fundry Petitions of dangerous confequence that were handed up and down by cur Se&aries, and towards the promoting whereof the new Arch-Bifhop of 'Canterbury Mr. Hugh Peters was ( as I am informed J come down to Maidjione to vifit this his Diocefle as he ufually calls hv The moil and beft of our Miniiters hereabouts (for all I can learn) are willing if they muft die, to be buried as va- liant Enilgn bearers in their colours ; There is a merry ftory told by a Baron of the Ports or Jurate of the town of Sandwich concer- ning Mr. Sym&nds the Independent who hath a living there 5 One coming to h'mi to bt Catechized 5 he fent him to a Mechanick of that Town to Catechize him for him; and when his Father in law Mr. H. another Jurate of the fame Town export ulated the cafe with him and askei hirn the reafon why he would do Co ; his An- fwer(as-Mr.F. related it) was, that one Goofe might beft teach a- nother to eace. So merry are our moft demure Independents : A- roong whotn if there be a Stoick he is the moft in [hew , who hath iaieh ( s .is reported) got an addition of meanes to the Benefice he yet hoidsj though it were formerly valued at above 100. pounds, and he himfclf be abfolutely in (how againft all tithes,himfelf ther- fore will nor, but lets his wife receive them : who whether he were roc ab origine as well as Mr. Saltmarjb a comick, your felf may beft fed oui>cr we will,ifyou pleafe but to get us a writ Ad melius in» quirendvtm 5 till then we mav perhaps the rather think them to have been fuch , being fo ftilla men that perfonate abundance of ain &rky,butaree^c, June 22, 16 46* Errmrs and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 77 Some faff ages taken out of mo Letters written from a godly Mi- nijler out of the country to a reverend 'and godly tyii- nijler in London 5 wbojhewed me the Letters. I Have read Mr. Edwards Book thorough, and as a friend to deal freely, I profefie Morney in my opinion never gave a greater blew to Papifts then he hath given to the Se&aries ; and shat which is yet rnore,foberly,fadly. As for the whole bufineffe of Webb of Milton taken before Colonel K. a Minifter thereabouts hath promifed to (end M. Edwards an exa& narration.The working I fee offome humours makes me hope the dimmer is paft , and it is neer the autume of fchifm which had its fpring before^. Only let us all be doing, Hugh Peters (as I hear) was lately at Maid- fioney and had a mind to have promoted a Petition among our Sectaries. June 15. 1646. OLIr common friend M* Edwards his laft Book Gangtmas& the Second Edition I received this laft poft, together with his Letter 5 I pray let him underftand as much • and withall let him know I (hall my (elf fGod willing ) thank him for both at better leifure and when I have read his Book thorough. Surely, he fpake Prophetically thatufually caldhim in Cambridge young Luther, Faxit Dew, that the Sectaries may never be able to deai with him,, as I doubt not many of themdefire, whofe words would willingly be turned into (words both againft him and US all. An ExtraU of a letter written from a godly Minijler to me. YOur Books lean aflure you f I find) gain favour withal 1 3, but the common adverfary who much increafcth andmuki- " ■ plyetb 7 8 A New and further Difcevery of the plyeth in thefe parts, where I heard laft week at an open ordinary in preienee of two of our Deputy Lieutenants, that fmce Kipn and Lamb have been here re-baptizing,' now there's a third man come that contradicts them both , and re^bapiizeth again 3 So that the poor people begin to Mare and (land amazed to think what their deluded difciples will do in the end : Many of the Brownifts fall to them-, however their doftor Turner keeps his ground f who di- sputed fas fome (ay) with Kffin and drowned him in the red Tea , till at lift they fell both from reafbning to down right railing. Poor people I pi tty them, as alfothofe others ( then and there fpoken of alfo) as one (a very honett man otherwife^) that affirmed lately he thought the Apoftles themklves never had more excellent gifts then a company oftradefmen, that now preach in private at Sand- wich, Another (ic was (aid) there was at Ascb neer Sandwich , who was faid to fay he was Chriit , but being queftioned , Anflvered no $ he was only Chrifts mcuth and could feed fuch as were hun* gry.&c. though as fome fay, he can hardly feed himfelf : Surely I often now think on Malt, 2 4. Except in the JVilderneffejr in Cham- bers where is Cbrifi^s they think: We mould gladly fee you here. I remember it was one of Von Pedroes devices about his firil coming into this Country to bringdown with him fome Minifrers out of your City to preach up the Parliament- and why (hould nor you to preach down Herefie,Schifme,Prophanefle, that the Country may know of what Religion the City is > Certainly T am for fiich a change of courfes as they call bu Pr0pfataivpmiat&c. Thus in haitel heartily reft Yours, July 6. 1646. A Copy of a tetter from a godlj mimfier in Yorkfliire U a friend of bis in Lanes Ihire. SIR, 1 Returned from Yorl^Jme 3d. Our meeting proved very fac- cefleiTe 5 one of the prime X^miniiters being the main Remo- rte concealed the man : A z t he laft w hen her mailer C/«*r ^wss gowe from home, (he enticed the Boy to go with her , and ihey wcr&xo'Szamps CK amber who lay bM-rid^and he fpake.ibme words a» them, which me pleads was a marrying of them $ and me gave this Siatxpe eleven (hillings fix rence for his paine^ For iheproofeof thefe things, hehdes nialkr Gl&fy particular rehtion to me of thefe things more then once in private, as alfo his refctmg iz to me in other companies 3 I have feen a Cer- tificate under thehand of Dade, Mevere '/^fubicribed £^.29.16 43. Ottuell MeverzBzz&tfmtt^ ofmafcr Clark* Sons diieafe in his brain for the Ipace of iixe moneths, wherein he was divers times depri- ved of fenie and motioa, andfometimes vexed wi:h Convulfions, ignoranc of things done and QU to him; as alfo I have permed Certificates under other hands, as Mr. Stamps, one &f§ffff# Perkins and Qfnets, too large ro letdown, betides the Petition of Mafter •CUrkdczwn to be delivered to the Hoiiieof Com 01 arcs for relief of his Sonne in this cafe , and for juftice againtt this Separauit who claims this youth for -her husband: a Copy whereof is as fol- lowethu to the Right Honourable the Knights and Burgeffes in the Commons Honfe of Parliament Ajfemhled: Tie Humble Petitm of Thomas Clark. Mo ft Hnmbty Shewing* THat the Petitioner entertained one OWary Ahraw to be his houfe-keeper , and to be efpecialiy careful! of hi? Sonne be- ing grievoufly viiited with the fickneffe called the Apoplexie, and by the Vchemency of the diieafe noc ienfible many times what he did : She the faid Afjry being between 4o.and ^o. years of age,and your Petitioners fonne being 1 6. years of age at molt: The faid Idarj bdng gone from the Petitioners houfe 9 comes and claimeth M 2 *he 84 A New and further Di fee-very of the %t the Petitioners fonne for her husband, and threatneth the Peti- tioner for keeping her husband from her , pretending foe was married to htm by a fick man who hath lain bed-riden a long time* whodenieth the marrying, of them,that he had no Licence, nor a- ny Authority to marry them, as by his Certificate may appear,but as he confefleth took eleaven {hillings and fix pence of her to make (how of fomething , as if he married her to fatisfie her hu- mour ; the youth not knowing any thing thereof concerning het pretended marriage with him : For at that time and fix weeks . after ihe pretends this marriage; your Petitioners fon was igno- rant of things done and faid unto him, and was weak inhisun- derftanding and right judgement , and without his memory , and fpeechlefTe as your Petitioner can prove. And whereas {he pro- duceth a Certificate to {how as married in Saint Georges Church in 4$W/-&m*r£,where fhe never was with him , neither is there any fuch marriage in the Church Regifter book to be found ; the Lad takethittoheartheihouldbefoabufedby her, and that it may be a difcontent to him for ever during his life. And the faid Ma- ry hath done fo in another houfe where fhe was a fervant by one /*. H. an Apprentife about three months before this, and is not free from him to this day, but by a bribe often pounds (he received of him. She the faid Mary defending her pradife in the ftreets to be lawfull , faying . It was commanded under the Law not to marry without confent of parents , but that was but a ceremony to them that lived under the Law -} it is now lawfull,be- caufe we live under the Gofpeh He humbly prayeth if it might ftand with your favour to grant unto him your Warrant to bring before you the fudMarj, that upon difcovery of the Premifes and lewd practife^the Petitioners Son as he hath bin by herpublickly difgraced , he maybe publickly difchargtd from her, and fhe abide fiich further Order as {hall be thought meeto And the Petitioner and his Sonne as in duty hand , [hall and will daily fray for jour Honours long and happy prefer* vation. This Errours and Proceedings of the StfUrie*. 8$ This Mary ^Abraham before her coming to Matter fl^k had intangkd a young youth, an Apprentice here in London, and clai- med a promife of marriage at his hand,which bufinefle was heard before Matter feffethe Seeker,an Independent Minifter and fome ether?, and it was concluded he {hould give her ten pounds, and fo there {hould be an end between them; which this youth gave hcr,and there was a writing of difcharge between the m,which ten pounds given by the boy U.fejfe received;and faith, it was fmce gi- ven to the Parliament. Now though U.fejfe knew all this, yet he recommended this \Matj to Mailer Ciarkjo be his houie-keeper who knew nothing of her prancks : when this old wench came to his houfe whilft the youth was well, {he tempted him not, but when he was thus ill (as above mentioned) the tempted him, and in the time of fome intermittion of his fits before he was perfect- ly recovered, when the youth went with a ftaffelhe carried him to that Stampey and when the boy was ill and weak,would come to bed to him: Now after Matter Clarke had put this Mary Abra- ham away, he found this paper of agreement" between a young Apprentize and this Mary by meeer accident in his fonnes cham- ber , and with a great deale of paines and enquiry found out this Apprentice in London, from whom he underftood the whole buu- neffe, whereupon going to Matter fejfe with this paper to taxe. him, that he knowing fuch a bulineffe would commend fuch a one to him who was a widdower ; Matter fejfe desiring to fee the pa- per (Matter Clarke letting him fee it) kept it, and would never re- store it againe ; but Matter fejfe told him he mutt forgive her, and he fpeaking of complaining of her for doing fuch a wicked fad", for the ruine of hisfonne; Matter fejfe wi(hed him to take heed «=^ of profecuting a Saint, and to confiderhow Jefus Chrittatthe day of judgement would take it at his hands^with fuch like words; And this Matter flark^tds me, having fpoken to him and fome other Sectaries of that company, why they fufered fuch a wic- kedneffe, and kept her company, he told me Icould not imagine the fhifts and put ofrs they had among them to colour the wicked- nette, the affirming and denying fometimes, faying (he was not of their Church, but only recommended by Letters Tefrimonia!^ fometimes affirming (he had repented. There is one Matter Denne> whom I have fpoken of in my firft Part S6 A New and farther Difcovery of the Part of Cjangr&na^ this man goes ftill up and down the Countries fpreading his corrupt opinions and dipping ; concerning whom I have lately received this Information from a hand that could not miftake in the relation; and I have the examinations taken before the Tutrices of Peace who examined Denne and others about him, which I here give the Reader. The Examination of Anne J arrat of Spalding Splnfier,]imz 22. i6^C. before Mafter Thomas Irbie, and Mafter John Harrington Commifft oners of the "Teace. K His Examinate faith, on Wednefday laft in the night about 1 1. or 1 2, of the clock Anne Stennet, and Anne Smith, the fervants of John Makerneffe, did call out this Examinate to go with them to the little Croft, with whom this Examinate did go; and coming thither, Mafter Denne and John Makernejfe , and a itrangcr or two followed after. And being come to the River fide, Mafter Denne went into the water, and there did baptife Anne Stennet^^nne Smith, (fodferj Roote, and John SoW'ter in this Examinats prefence. lAnneJarrat w her mark. June 2i. \6^6. Lincolne, Holland. Henry Denne of Caxton/# the County ^/Cambridge examined before John Harring- ton and Thomas Irby Ef quires, two of his Majefties Juftices of the Peace. HTHis Examinate faith, that he liveth at Caxton aforefaid, but 1 doth exercife at El fly within a mile of his own houfe, and faith that he took Orders* about id. years fince from the Bifhop of Saint Davids. And that on Munday laft he came to Spalding, being invited thither by John Makernejfe to come to his houfe* And that he hath exercifed his gifts about four times in feverall places in Spalding, viz. at the houfe of John Makernejfe, and Mr. Mnftcns. As for baptiftig of any he doth not confeflfe. John Harrington, Matte* Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries* 87 Matter Harrington fent for Dermby a Conftable on the Lords day, with whom he coming, Mafter Harrington confined him to the Provoft Mari1hal(who had been an Officer of the Commit- tee)for that day being the Lords day that he fhould not make a mutinymor fbir in the Town that day by people reforting to him. This Maiden Anne Jarrat confefles that (he being by , heard Mafter *£>*#» or fome of the company with him, lay upon them at their Baptifme,and require a promife of thofe that were dipped to hear none but of their own way. This Denn in his travels about the country had two men attended him , who live (as they faid) with him • they were clad like Farmer^and they took upon them toqueftion fomein the Town of Spalding to give an account of their Faith ; as one Goodman (joffery \ Mafter Harrington upon queftioningwith Mafter Demi fpak of committing him to Lincoln , to which he replyed He cared not ; but this he took ill, to be mo. lefted in his way, and told the Juftice he was bound to the Com- mittee of Examinations upon a Bond of two hundred potmdsto appear before them at any time at four and twenty hours warn- ing; and he made ufe of that as an argument againftkis troubling of him ; to whom Mafter Harrington replyed , How canyon do that, appear before the Committee at fo ihort a warning, when as you are now ahnoft a hundred miles from London ? This -Ma- fter Harrington a Juftice of Peace and a religious man told me he had had feveraj Anabaptifts before him upon feveraloccafions,and they have alwayes refufed to take an oath, faying they would not fwear. • There is one Beedle of giocefter fometimes School- mafter there , who denies the Holy Ghoft to be God ; had a Manu- fc ript by him of his own making pleading againft the Third Perfon of the Trinity ; which being known ~ iome in Authori- ty in that Town queftionedhim,and getting this manufcript /have lent up either the Original! or a true Coppy to fome in Authority and place here; butthelaft newesl heard of him, he hath not been queftioned as yet by thofe above : Bifhop tyfier that lear- ned and godly Divine coming this fummer through Gbfier, fpake with him, and ufed him with all fairnefle and pitty as well as ftrength of Arguments to convince him of his dangerous Errour. A Minifter of the City of Gfaeficr told me the Bitltop labour- ed 88 A New and further Discovery of the ed to convince him, telling him that either he was in a damnable Errour , or elfr the whole Church of Chrift , who had in ail ages worfhiped the Holy Ghoft had been guilty of Idolatry ; but the man was no whit moved either by the learning,gravity, piety, or zeal of the good Bifhop , but continued obftinate. There is one Andrew Bebman an Anabaptift , and a Preacher among them , a Cooper by trade, a forry feilow,that can nei- ther write nor read , and yet is a great Preacher among the Se- ctaries: This blind Bayard would fain Preach in the Parifla Church of zAlgate-% faying, if they would let him Preach there, his Sermon would be worth the Parifti five pounds by a collection for their poor from his followers; and he hath further faid,if they doubt of his ability to Preach, let them give him a text at the Church door when he ts going in to Preach, and he would Preach of that,, whereby they (hould fee what he could do ; and one fpeaking to him concerning a City Colonell if he would be a member of their Church,he would make a good member among them ; this Bebman reply ed , that for his part hebeleeved if this forenamed Colonell would give all his Lands and Eftate, he could not be received into their Church. There was a great Sectary who had his wife lay a dying (and (he did die of that fickneffe ) to whom fomc wel-affeded neigh- bour fpake,that he fhould in this dangerous cafe pray for his wife; he anfwered , what good would prayer do her,or you either? you think prayer will do much good. I hadthis relation from them 10 whom he fpake it. An Alderman of this City , and a moderate man ( fo acknow- ledged by the Independents) not long fince received a Letter from JSTeWrcaftle concerning our Brethren of Scotland ; which Letter he fhewed to fome Common Councell men and other Citizens , and the Letter was written from an Independent in Newcaftle to this Alderman,wherin he confeffes that xhzScots have dealt very faith- fully with the King , and told him That if he would not Sign the Fropofitions, he muft expecT no help from them, and that they would keep to their Covenant and not defert the Parliament of England, with words to that eftecl:. I faw the Originall Letter (and I read it twice over) written from a To wnfman of Newcaftle (a man of fome place there) to an Honourable Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. $9 Honorable member of the Hotife of Commons,wherein he com- plains that in Newcaftlezllvm like to runne to mine for want of Government, and from the fadion of the Independents there , that their good Minifters were fo abufed and difecuraged by them that they would not ftay,but had left therr^or were going away as Matter Pridtaux and Doclor femfor* ; -fome Independent Prea- chers fent thither will neither Baptize Children, nor adminifter the Lords Supper ; but fay they came not thither to do fuch drud- ^J gery ( this was twice repeated in the Letter ) Doctor fenifbnw&$ fentfor thither again but for a dale; and he acquaints this Parlia- ment man: that the Independents have a defigne one way or other either by threatning fome mento give their voices,or by pretend- ing fome reafons to try to get an Ordinanceto bring in a.man for Ma/orxhis year, who is a Sectary ; but he defires this Honourable Member oftheHoufe of Commons to ftand their Friend in the Houfe; and hopes that feeing we have fought far Liberty, that town dial have their liberty infree-choice of a Burgede for Parlia- ment,and of a Major the chief Officer of their TowmThis Gentle- man alfo combines in his Letter, that without fo much as ever ^ acquainting the fee ButgefTes, or once calling a Common- Councell,an Ordinance was procured to appoint an Independent Deputy Major , which if we fhould have donefo ( as the In- dependent party did ) what out-crics wo. Id there.have been of breach of Liberty ? Upon this Letter being communicated to me, I asked a worthy Member of the Houfe of Commons, why the Scots would fufter in Newcafilethc Independents to domineerfo^ and abufe the godly Orthodox Minifters , and not teach them better manners ; he anfwered,.the Scots becaufe of giving offence were tender of medling in any thing with the Civil Government,, but rather furTered thefe things fo much againft their minds that they might give no occafion of complaint. There is one Mafter Srbury fpoken of -inmy hrft part o£c]an~ gr&nay who about June or the beginning of July laft , as he' was going to Wales , lay at Marlbrough one night ; and being in the Town he came to a houfe where commonly once a week many good people of that Town meet together to confer and difcourfe of good things ; and there Mafter Erbury fpake to them (many N being po A Km and further Difcover) of the being there prefentj to this purpofe, that he knew not what they might exped, but he came neither to pray nor to preach, but toleafn of Chrift and of his Saints.and making a di&ourfe to them, he declared his opinions,veming himfelf againft Chrift being God, affirming he was only ma^pleadmg for univerfalLpvedeiT prion, fpeaking againftBaptifm 8c all mimtfry.ufing words to thiseffcfr, that he knew not how they ftood affected , or how it was with them ; but with many Chrifiians ir was tints with them, that they knew not what to do without a man in black cloathes , or a black man among them; but that was for the time when Chriftians were Babes and Children, but now they were all taught of Ood , and needed not that any one mould teach them : When he had dofte fpeaking , fome of the company ftocd up and oppofed him as not being fatisfied in what he had faid, celling him it was not only Errour, but Blalphemy to deny Chrift to be God, and brought lome Scriptures ro prove it, as in [John aGentlewomaris houfe , and a greacpapift , not farre from Reo dingus, wasrefolved to go in and counterfeit himtelf an Indepen^ dent ; this Gentlewoman conceiving hinvto be fuch , entertained' him with as great friendly refpe&s as me could have done any Je- 82?* fuic in the world • fheprofefled (he loved the Independents with? all her heart j and if any men in the world did them right, ic? would be the Independents 5 . this the forefaid Gentleman related romehimfelf. July 25. A godly Minifter told me that an Ambaptifhmd An* einomian pleaded againft asking forgivenelTe of finnes 5 faying, it was no more lawful! to pray for the pardon of finnes then to pray for our ele&ion: It was anfwered, there was an exprefle command for one, none for the other ; it was replyed, wherein the Scripture > anfwer was made, in the Lords Prayer 5 the Ana- jbapuft aafwcxed,the Lords Prayer ym only for that time. Err on and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 9 3 A Lieutenant Colonel a man both valiant and godly, told me fie had heard a Captain who was a -Sectary, preach that thefe>War$. fnould not end till all the wicked in the Land on both fides were deftroyed; and faith he, if you obferve it, tist paid , he demanded 1 5. millings for his charges in coming , and ufed thefe words ,. You are one that oppofe Matter Powell , and if the Minifter would not pay whatever he demanded, would ttraine his Cowes. There is one 'Bv^fon in Middkfex about Han well , a great Se- O ftarie 9 8 A Nov and further Dijccvery of the ftarie and Preacher , he preaches much againft Tithes , and broa- ches many Errours$ (omeofthe MtddlefixMimfters have told me of fach a man , and I am promiied a full account of the man. There is one CorrtwcUi\x Kent an Anabaptift, who hath put forth divers Pamphlets, one againft Baptizing of Children • otfiers lately printed, Dedicated to particular members oftheHoufe of Commons: The firft pamphlet called, 7 k vindication cj 'the roj* atlComirJJfim of King Jefiti , fet fonh about threeyears ago 3 was given to divers Members at the dpore of theHoufe of Commons : In which Book this Comwell brands all the Reformed Churches arid the whole Chrifuan world at this day which Baptize their chil- dren with the odious name of an Anti-chriiUan Faftion. Tnere is one Mafter Blac\wood about the Wild of Kent an Ana- baptift , wh j hath write about a ycare and a haife ago, a Eook cal- led The forming of Anticbrifi$ the fubjeel: matter being againft Poe- dobaptimie5andfor Liberty of Confcience fo called, wherein as I remember he is for a univerfdl Toleration except it be inBla£ phemy, and denying the Scriptures to be the word of God : but a- bout a year ago a godly Minifter told me he ipeaking with him a- bout that book and about his limitations , and whether he was of that judgement ftill , he told him , he had received thanks for that book from a great Commander In the army for fo far as he had gone right, but wimedhim to recoiled his thoughts whether he was not out in thole limitations Sc bounds/o thai f faid M.Blackr wood) lam fomewharuniatisfied in my former 'limitations^ doubt- ing whether there ought not to be a universal! Toleration with- *•- Blackwood out any of thofe bounds » and in a * book fince printed , he is a- jftpoftolicall gajn[} any reftraiat in the cafe of Btelphemy, and denying.the^Scrl- Baptifme, era p£ure3 retrac"Ung his former didio&ions. '^' £/"^CJ 8x. There is one Mafter Nicbolat Davifen of 'Nov -England, who i2" * came over from Nttr-England with accounts amounting to a good fumme , w hich he was to give here in London^, and landing in t he Well at that time when all the Weft was in the Enemies power , for feare of loofing Us accounts and being taken, durft not ven- ture to come up to London, but lived in Bnfxable unknown almoft three quarters of a year , which being then one of the Kings Gar- rlfons he was glad to conceale himfelfe , they not knowing whence, he came nor what he was: now being fcmetimes in the company of Errors and f met dings tf tfje Sectaries. 99 of che Cavaliers and off>me of their ScholIars,he heard them often fpeaking among themfelves of che Independents , and of the diffe- rences among us, andchey /pake to one another f not chinking he took no* ice ) that there were from feverall Colledges beyond the Seas Jefuices come over ( they named their names, and the places from whence they came ) to aft the parts of Independents and Se- ctaries to blow up the difference and contention : Now when the Well: was open , and this nun got fafe to London , he told this to divers, to a godly Citizen among others 9 who acquainted me with it 5 and this Mailer Vavifon bdng fpoken to by fbme Inde- pendents fas being a New- England mm ) to go to Ginldh.iU upon fbrne bufineffe when fome Parliament men came downe ( as I vAo. it , upon one of the Cities Petitions about Church Government ) for fay the Independents , the Presbyterians will get the upper hand, he refufed to go , andanfwered them who fpake to him in words to this effeft, You little knov/what ycudo, and whofe work you further in eppofingthe Presbyterians: for faith hef the Independents in Old England are nothing like to them of Nf&» England no more then black to white : you Independents here do that which we abhorre there •, I met faith i his nun, with one who came from New-Eaglatfd, and he held hi mfelf there an Apoffle,foc which he was whipped ", and here he is a great preacher, and in great account 5 and this'he told to divers. This man is accounted a godly man in New- England and went back thither this June. For a further proof and confirmation of this, here is a perfonof good account, one of the Committee of Account3 that (peaks con- fidently of informations he hath received of the coming over of Je- fuits on purpofe to mixe themfelves with Independents and the Se- ctaries to increafe that Faftion for their own ends : I have been told alfo with much confidence that a Gentleman going through Coleman-RrsetyZnd feeing great (tore of People coming out of an Alley , asked what the matter was ; fome told him they were Se- ctaries come now from their Conventicles, whereupon ftanding fiill co take notice what manner of People they were , he (awe come out among them fbme whom he had known to befe&its and Priefts. There is a young man a Schollar and a preacher,who lived feme years in Holland , and that among fome of our Englift Sectaries, O 2 fome- ioo A New and further Difcoicry of the tbmetimes of the Church vfAmbeim , who tells me they all gene* ralfy and their Families were Anaba-ptills 3 and that they made much of that ("carriious wicked book. The ^rr^gmtvt ofPerfecv- tlm : Thefe -Sectaries not many months before they came oyer into Englind) namely about the Spring lair , gave thanks a: one oF their Church meetings for a Ttkration of the Setts .( which as they heard ) had pafTrd the Houfe of Common^ which the Re* formed Miriftcrs ofthat place heaiing of, were much troubled at k y yet hoping k was not fo,that God would not leave the Parlia- ment to be guilty of fo great an evill after he had done (6 much for then3 : Thefe Sectaries would fpeak much againit the Covenant, and this Preacher hath heard fonie of them (ay they would be han- ged before they would take k, and had rather fee one another han* ged then to take that sbcminable Covenant. One cfthecompa- pany uied to preach conftandy in the forenoon , and then in the af- ternoon two or three others by turns , as Mailer C. Mafter d> ar-d when thefe were from home and there was no preaching, then the'r Families ftaid at home3 and would not heare the Englifh Re- formed Miniiiers 9 but fome of them faid , If tfaofe Minifters would proRufe never to preach for Baptifim of C hildren , nor a- galnft" their way/.hey would hear them : U pon the newes coming over of the burning cf Mailer Archers booke , that made God the author of finne, they juitiHed all In that hook, faying, what was in it,was his to a word 5 and one of them (aid he could fhew the Copy j and they fpake much againft Aflembly, Parliament, and that he had as high a place in heaven as any of them would have 5 and they would make what he had written good. This young man once (peaking againft the opinion, they were very angry at him/aymg,what had he to do?& they wouldipeak againit our Minifters with much indignation and fcorn , as ifnone of them * lam of opi- naa< any wort^- mion thacHea- A worthy Member of the Houfe of Commons told me the lait' ren received day of Augufi , that one Captaine B: told him we had beene fed few fitch fouls by 0l2r iviinifters that mens fouls when they die Went to heaven ; T thl d Clf *ft- ^ut nOW we ^e a ^ew ^^c in r^ac *e? ^° ROt ^° CO ^eaven ; to faith"*?* re*/- whom this Parliament man replyed , That the fouls of the faith- po teles ant- full do- for Chrift told the thief , Luk**4* To day fhrft tbou be mas. with me in Paradife ; unto whom this Captain replyed , That to Err ours and Proceedings ofihc Sharks. I o i *&jwas robe referred to GhriiU%irig(b , and uot to the, time when he mould be in ParadLe , fothac the meaning was, Ghrilt, faid unto thethief thoie words to day,, but cot chat to day he ftiouldbe in paradife with him, and to the words were to be read, Verily Ijay vntoiba to dj}> , and there the point y and then. after to be read , thctijbalt k with tr.e in Paradife 5 which though it mould nor be to the end of the world, would be no impeachment of the truth oTChriib fpeech : whereupon this Parliament mananfwercd tothispurfofe, this were to make Oh rift eqivocate and deceive likeas)our fa&i on does. Ixjow AnimadvirfivM upn this Exj^dfition. *TpHis Se&ary is not the iirft that hath wrefbd this place thus , X bucfbme before him have feparated to djy from the words that follow , and joyned it with the words going before ., jo chat the diiUn&ion mould be, Amn I fay unto thee to dty > and then fhould follow thotijhalt be with meinparadi/e • upon which let the reader lookTbeopbylaft who handles this place largely and Jm~ fmitH Harmony en the Gofpeil,Cz/u43. befides in the Greek Go- pies to day is joyned with the words thou fia/t he , and not with che word I/ayyo( which read Beza upon the place : yea lets looke upon the word$,they are an anfwer of Chriits to the Theifs pray- er, that Chrift would remember him when he came into his Kingdome, not to remember him in this world to fave him from the Croffe and temporal! death : now Chriftsaniwer is according- ly , that he mail be partaker of his heavenly Kingdpme , and tejls him the time to dy , that is , thou fhalt be with me without any delay , and fo there (hall be no danger that I (hall forget thee when Iconic into my Kingdome, for behold , this very day I (hall take thee to my Kingdome ? vide Rcllock ; in Cap, 1 9. Johan. The tbeif in his prayer ipeaks to Chrift as going presently into his Kingdome, and defires to be remernbred upon his coming thither as now being upon the G*ofle in a eurfed condition: now if Chrift bad faid to him then , he mould be with him , but not told him the time when ( the theif knowing he (houid be dead to day ) buc meaning it of a long time , two thoufand years afrer , this would Hot have been fo comfortable to the their $ be/ides there was no reafoo 102 A New and further Difeoverj of the reafon nor need of adding h diy to that word I fay to tbes , for the theif knew they were f[>oken to day, yea at that inihm to him , neither could to djj be for afKveration 5 Chriii ufing that word word of afleveratort Awenjtifteid of thac.neicher is there any para- lell place in Scrir-ture where to day is ufed in fuch an deception. There is one Mafter John Bachiler Licenfer-Generall of the Sectaries Books, and ofall forts of wicked opinions, Licenfer to M^^SaltmarJh.Crefenfis^Wal^in^Webb^xxd divers other Secta- ries; who hath been a Man-midwife to bring forth more mon- fters begotten by the Divell,and borne of the Seclaries within this three laft years rhen ever were brought into the lighr in England* by all the former Licenfers the Bifhops and their Chaplaines for fourefcore years; he hath licenfed Books pleading for all forts of Seclaries,as - Seekers, Antinomians, Anabaptifts, &c. as Salt- marjh, and PFalwlns Books ; and for Antibaptifts denying fince Chrifls death all Baptifme by water, as Webbs Book,page6. where islaid down, that lohns Baptifme which was water did end at the coming of Chrift, and that there is no Baptifme by water inftitu- ted by drift; yea ,for Antifcripturifts^Arians, Anitrinitarians, Queftionifts, and all Blafphemers , as is apparent by his licehfing 'that late wicked Pamphlet, call'd,Some modeft and humble Que- ries concerning a printed paper,lntituled an Ordinance prefented fto the Honourable Houfe of Commons, d^.where if the Reader do but compare the former part of that Ordinance, in what cafes only that Ordinance infiicls death, viz. upon the wilfull and.ob- ftinate publifliers of fuch damnable Herefies and Blafphemies, with the fecond Quere made upon that Ordinance/ whether it be agree- able to the mind of Chrift, for men to inflict the heavie cenfure ' of death upon their Brethren, for holding forth fuch Doclrines, ' or opinions in Religion, fuppofe contrary to admonition, which 'for ought/the Infliders know,except they make themfelves infal- lible, may be the facred truths of God, he muft needs find thus much pleaded for, that therefore fuch blafphemies and Herefies contained in the Ordinance^yea Atheifme it felf(for that/is in the Ordinance, that God is) may not be punifhed with death, becaufe for ought any man knowes they may be the facred truths of Cod5 and the maintairiers and publiibers of them our Brethren; So that Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. I0 that at once in this. Quere upon the Or4ina.nce3ali the fundamen- tals of Chriftian Religion are overthrown, and luch Doctrines, and opinions as are contrary unto them. (for ought any man knowes except he make himfelf infallible) may. be the facred truths of God, yea groffe Scepticifme and Atheifme is brought into the Church! This Mafter Bachiler hatK Licenfed kverall Pamphlets for a Toleration, yea not only for a limited hounded Toleration of fome S eels and opinions^asfuppofeAnabaptifts, Independents • but for a Univerfall generali Toleration of all con- fciences and opinions,as may be feen in * Wahnns Looks iicenfed * by him ; yea he hath licenfed unlicenfe&Books- printed before he \^] Prcd,a- was borne, as a Pamphlet entituled Religious Peace, ' made by one tf Mafter Ed\ * Leonard Bufher , and printed 1 614. wherein there is. a pleading ».«*rfj convcr- for a Toleration of Papifts, Jewes, every perfon or perfons cJifFe- ?°"j V/hiipcr ring in Religion; and that it maybe lawful!, for them to wic#W^rc^f ' difyute, confer, print andpublifh, any.m.iiter.toHching Rflfgh for or againfl :; rrhamfocver ; And that the wick Bachiler the Independent may the more appear, dertoobferveinhis- licenfing this and. fome other Books, tfiefe tf°n Pjj#e }9> See Mr Wa£ either following particulars, Firft,He gives not a bare Imprimatur to ^cw E^1110-^ his Book of Bttfiers, but gives his Imprimatur with a fpeciall Re- *' "°" 2^' commendation in thele words; cThis ufefuli Treatife (entituled. cR*Jigiow Feace)\6ng fince prelentedjby a Citizen of London to 'Mng.famts and the High Court of Pariiament,then fitting,! allow c to be reprinted; andfo to fome of SaltmarjJjes ijooks,Smcake in the Temple, (Jr canes for Liberty, Re af ens for Unity, Love and Peace, & and another a Gentleman^ who was an Officer in the Ar- my, a great Seeker. There is one Carter^ having but one eye, a Sectary at Watton in Hart/or JJhire3 and a great Preacher, who keeps Conventicles on the Lords day, there being great reforc to him, never coming to the publike Affeniblies. There are many Independents and Sectaries at or neare Lewis in Svjfex, fome of the chiefe being Mr. Peters Converts, as one Mr. Banniard, Miniftcr ; one Mr. PofUetbwait^ one Mr. Crafts^ fas I remember the name;^ Mr. Bunniard will not preach upon nor keep theFaft-dayes: being ax. London on a Faft-day, hee would not^oe to Church $ a Gentlewoman who lives in his houfe ufeth to fpin upon the Faft-day. And there are divers Sectaries in that Town, that work openly on Faft-dayes. Oats the Weaver, fpoken of in the Fir ft and Second parts of Gangrma% being arraigned upon his life at Cbensferd the lait Affize, for dipping one Anne Martin^ who died fome fourteen dayes after, and being found not guilty, was bound by the Judge to his good behaviour , and made to find Sureties that hee mould neither preach nor dip 5 and yet notwithstanding the very next Lorda day hee preached mCbensford, and goes on full in Effex preach- ing his errors. The people of Wetbers field hearing that Oats and (bme of his companions were come to their Town, feafed on them {onely Qits was not in the company) and pumped them fbundly. And Oats coming lately to Vunmow in Ejpx, fome of the Town P hearing I06 A Netv and farther Vifcover y of the hearing, of it where hee was, fetched him out of the houfe, and threw trim into the river, throughly clipping him. A Chizzn who was at Chews ford when Oats his triall was, having (bme knowledge of him, rsafoned with him, that fetting afide the difpute of the lawfulnefle of Rebapt nation, in prudence k could not be well done,to doe that which in ordinary reafon would deftroy the crea- ture; viz. in cold weather to dip weakly perions: Unto which anfwer was made by one Tench an Anabaptiit,. and a companion QtQjits.) that God had made a promife in that cafe, when tbott. goefl through the fire^ and throng) the water 9 1 wiU be with thee. And when this Cit'wen (aid, that was not underftood literally in that fenfe, it was infifted upon that it was to be taken in that fenfe. The City Remonftrance, and my books, are exceeding hatefull to the Sectaries in the Army; they lpeake defperately againft the Cky, and the City Remonftrance 5 as among divers other fpeeches, a Captaine of Lievtenant Generall Gromwells Regiment of Foot fpake words to this effeft, Tnat the City Remonftrance was as de- villifli a thing as ever was penned by man : which this Captaine in his teftimony againft Adjutant Generall Gray9 June the 19. be- ing examined, did give in himfdfe under bis owne hand, of which I have feen a true copy, taken out of the originall Records. I have been told aUb from good hands, that my books are fo hated among the Sectaries in the Army, that no Commanders nor Officers dare be knowne to have them, or to read them; and (bme Treshytmant- fwfeofe names I (hall conceale) getting the bookp, have been for- ced to read them by ftealth in the night in their beds, when they have been fare none fhould carry tales of them. The P/estyterians and Orthodox have been glad to deale with my books in the Ar- ray, as the Proteftants are glad to doe with Bibles, Mr. Perkins Works,&c. in Coun* ries,as Spain, where the Inquifition is in force* A godly young man and a Scholler who hath been in the Quar- ters of the Souldiers divers times with zhcwr yea (bme of the great ones, when they were in the Weft, in 'July laft, told me and fome other company, that hee had heard (brae of the Sectaries in the Ar- my (ay, they would not tolerate Vresbyterians, though they tole- rated all others 5 becaule tbey looked upon them as rnoft deftru&ive to them. .... September Errors and Proceedings of the Sett arks. 107 September 23. I was cold from good hands, both from a "Minifter in the City who hath relation 10 the place, and from one who came from the place, that a Captaine of the Array quartering with his Company at a Town called Anfler, in TVarrvickfklre, preach eth in the Pari (h Church, fbmetimes twice on the Lords day, and the Minifter, though an honeft man, is glad to ftand by. A godly Miniftcr of Br'ftuw, preaching in Briftov? by way of Ex- hortation, to exhort men to goe out of themfelves, and to reft on Chrift, one ftood up in the Church, either whilft hee was preach* ing, or pre feqrly upon finifhmg his Sermon, telling him thac hee had preached Anfichriftiamfme to exhort men. The fame Mini- fter related it, that a Souldier a great Sectary finding fault with f mething hee had preached of Chrifts wondring at their unbe- leefe, bee told him they were Chrifts words; to which this Se- ctary replyed, Chrift (pake thus in his darknelTe, or in the time of his darknefJe. This Minifter alio one day difcourilng with this Se- ctary about our being juftified by the righteoufnefle of Chrift, the fame Sectary replyed, Chrifts righteoufnefle was a beggarly righ- teoufneHe. A godly Minifter who lives in Somerfetftire told me of a Sectary and a Sequeftrator, who to him maintained Adultery was no linne- and to another Minifter, thatdrunkenneiTe was no finne, but a help to fee Chrift the better by. Hee told me ail a that foni2 Sectaries, having a Book among them called the fitimjje of Gods love, maintained generall election, that God had chofen all men to life, and that election was of all men ; with whom this Minifter reafoned, alledgmg that in the 9. of the Romanes^ verf. u, t&gN* and telling them, the word Election implied it was offome, not of" all ; for if I come and chufe, I take feme, and leave others 5 but if I rake all, I doe not chufe. There is a godly Minifter iftel cameou: of the Army lately, and nnderftands the {late of k very well , that fold feme Members of the Hotife of Commons, there are fome wlule Troops in the Ar- my that hold |uch defperate opinions, as denying the Pi.efurfectioR o\ tKe dead, and hell ; which relation I had from a worthy Mem- ber of theHoufe, with the names ofthe Parliament men to whom it was told, andof ths Minifter who told it, I was told by feme honeft under ftanding men, who heard Ma- P 2 fter i o 8 A New and farther Difcovery of the fter Burroughs preach, that on the day of tlte laftThankfgiving in September, hee preaching ac his Lecture ac Michaels Cornhill% on Pyrf/,78,42, (poke againft the City, for being unthank full to the Army, the Inftruments of their deliverance, by whofe meanes they enjoyed the clothes they wore, the bread they eat, the trading they h:.d$ and difcour(ing of that liberty, peace, trading, which this City had by their means, threatne^i heavie judgements on this City, what judgements they might expeft, for umhankfulnefle to> the Inftruments of their good, who had been a meanes to fave them, becau'e they would not have them have their liberty ; but ("faith hee, (peaking of the Army J if they would (land upon rermes, or ^. capitulate with us, what might they not have? and if they were ™ an Army of Papifts3 what would they not have > with other things to that purpole, infomuch as thefe Citizens faid, many (pake of the Sermon , and that thefe were dangerous insinuations, efpecial- ly there being divers Souldiers belonging to the Army there pre- sent. I enquired alfo of a godly Minifter who heard thisSermon,of the truth of thefe paflages, and hee faid there were fuch paflages to that effect. And Mafter Burroughs in his preaching at CombHI^be- fides what hee may doe in other places, hath often ftrange pafla- ges and flings, asa little before that, againft the City Remonftrance, (though hee named it not J which many took notice of; and at o- ther times againft the Presbyterians, comparing them to Ep«, and the Independents to Jacob • (peaking of Efatt, how many rough, wild men had been brought down in the field, and wee had at home many Efiusy wild, rough men againft their brethren, who hee doubted not mould be brought down in due time* or words to that effect. There is one Mafter Symonds of Sandwich a great Independent, who preached, that though hee would not (ay that all who cams not into the Church- way were damned, yet hee would fay that all who had opportunity to joyne to that way, and did not, but lived and died without repentance,for- not coming into the Church- way,fhou!d be damned : Andjaith hee,we had been in the Church- way in this place before now, but for an Apoftate Brother in this Town, (peaking of a godly Minifter once an Independent, but converted from the error of that way: and this Mafter Symonds brought that place Zeckiq. 17,1831?, thatffe Lord mil fmite them that Erroitrs andProceedings of the SeMmcs. io? that come not up to ktfp the feafi of Tabernacles t Now a godly Mi- nifter in the fame Town (hewed thefe Notes co a Member of the Houfe of Commons* who ask?d this Mafter Symonds, why this place makes not as much againft thofe who will not joyne in a Presbyteriall way, as againft chofe who will aot be Independents? This Mafter Symonds reporting of this godly Minifter that hee was a lyar, hee wenr to him with two more, in a faire way, to fpeafc to him, and this Mafter Sjmonds was (b imperious and high, that hee called this godly Minifter, An intolerable Fellow and malici- ous. Some of the Magiftrates of that Town asking Mafter Symondsy why divers of the people in the time of the publike Aflemblies met in private, hee aniwered, Can you blame them, when they have nothing but bread and cheefe in publike > fpeaking of this godly mans Mjnifteryw Now upon occafion of Matter Symonds branding this godly Minifter for an Apoftate, becaufe hee had forfaken the Independent way, this godly Minifter prefently after in his owne Church publikely confefled , hee was once of the Independent way, and a&ually entered into a Church Covenant, and would baptiee none but the children of parents in the Church Covenant ; but (faith hee) this was, when I was in the Hand of Providence a- Jone, and in the dark ; but when I came into England, fmce this Parliament, and compared both waves together, the Presbyteri- an and Independent, confer d with divers Minifters about them, read b^oks, as Mafter Kutberfords, &c. heard Mafter John Good* wi* preach fome Sermons for Presbytery, Ifaw the power of theKeyestobe in the Minifters of the Church, not the people, the Church Covenant, and all tho(e wayes of admiilion, requiring men to give fignes of grace, &c. to be ■ Will-worfhips; when I came to hold up the Independent way in the light, (like as men doe the cloth they buy) I faw it was a moth-eaten garment, and had manyflawesinir. Hee told the people hee had been humbled privately before God, that hee had been of that way , and now defired to be publtkely humbled for it; and confeffed his finne in being a Minifter of an Independent Church, and gave God glory, faying, I amnotaftamed to tec ant that wherein I did amide and was miftaken ; it was no (hame to Paul to confefle hee was a bla£ phemer 5 and hee wifhed that fbme Minifters who had beenStage- flayersi and Cringexs to tbe name of Jefus, pleading Tor bowings* Pj- would. no A New and further Diftovery of the would publikely confefle, and follow bis example; for, fakh this godly Mimfter, I doechis to fet them an example-; and who would account the worie of diemif they followed my example > This Mi- niiler cells me. hee turned not (God knowes^) for any outward refpefts; fbrwhiilthee was in Providence hee was backt and up- held in that way, againftalloppofitiong, byfome great ones; and when hee was come to London, namely (iince this Parliament ) hee was offered maintenance and fuppon in that way •, but coming to examine things, hee found the Scriptures hee went upon did not jTove the things 5 and obferVmg that the way whiltt hee was in it was full of faftions, fractions and divifions, and finding diver? of his members that were come out of Providence into England turned feme to be Auabaptifts^ feme Antinomicms^ fbme See>kers9 all thefe things laid together, God blcfled to recover him out of that dan- gerous way of enror and fchifme wherein bee was. ' v In May lair, a Commander belonging to the Army told me, that hee hath heard many Souldiers of the Army who are Sectaries fay, when newes hath come to the Army, of the Parliaments (etling the Presbyterian Government, What have wee fought for then all this while, if i hat -mutt be kited* The fame Commander tells me hee huh heard divers of th" Sectaries belonging to the Army pray, but never, as heecculd obferve, did they pray for fbrgivenefiecf iinne; neicherdoth hee think th it any of the Sectaries in the Ar- my u(e to pray for pardon of finnes. There is one Crab of Southward fide, a Dipper and a Preacher, who vents ftra??ge doctrines againft the Immortality of the (bulj&c. This man was complained of this fummer to the Lord Major, for (peaking words againft the King, as that it was better to have a golden Calfe or an A(Te ret up, w'th mch kini of expreflions, thsn to have a King ever them : For which words hee was bound over to anfwcr at the Seilions; but I heare nothing what is become of frm. ; There is one Lieutenant i?.a Lieutenant of a Troop of Horfe,a ,great SecTarie, whoisfo proud and conceited, that he thinks him- felf able to difpute with the whole Aflembly, and calls our godly Minifters Priefts at every word; he affecTs ftrange high words, faying, they who have the invifible motions of the fpirit have no- thing to dos with (;h£i*i wfeo are in carnality; be hath given out < : .. that Errors and Proctedwgs of the Seffurks. m that Matter Angelo and the other Priefts at 'Brifioll, durft not dif- pute with-him ; he makes nothing of any Minifter, norofthofe whom he formerly received moft good from • and that the Rea- der may have a true character of this Sectary, 1 {hall fet down a Relation given me in writing from an underftanding godly man, who came this Summer from Brifioll and thofe parts ; which is as followes. c I was lately at Brifioll, wher I faw one Lieutenant B. who (as I was credibly informed by eare witneffes) hath publikly contradicted Mafter Paul? and Matter dAngelo where they have preached (once the Deputy Governour, and the Major of the City being prefent) his carriage towards the godly Minifters be- ing generally difliked by the Citizens,Lieutenant B. was confined to his Chamber, aipon which he writes to the Deputy Governour that he cared not for Priefts, Governours, nor Committees, or words to the fame effect. The fame Lieutenant hath formerly preached publikly in his fcarlet Coat laced with filver lace. I was told by one of the Committee, and a godly .-'man, that he and Mr Anqelo had heard one Thomas Web preach Blaiphemy in Ratcliffe Church Brifioll, which Web dot\\ go from place to placejn g/o- cefler and Summerfetjhires feducing people , as I am informed by credible perfons. There is a godly underftanding man come from Neto-England this year,who lived there many yeares, and knowes well the Mini- fters, Magiftrats, andftate both of their Church 'and Common- wealth ( who alfo is drawing up a Tractate of their Church- way and practifes, illnttrated by examples and experiments made upon many there ; which hath been communicated to me fo farre as he had proceeded in it ; ) Now this man related to me fuly 27. in the prefence of a godfy Gentkman, that heiaw and read a Manu- fcript, which was m the hands of many, and made by fome of their Magiftrats (as it was conceived) for an Arbitrary Government in the Common-wealth; "that -in crimes and offences commuted, there fhould cot be certain penalties appointed by Laws, to C=I3 ; which the Governmtfs.and Ma^fittat.s fhould keep, butitihould be left to the difcretion and wifdorneof the Magiftrate what he thought hi to inflict in cafe of fuch md fuch crimes ; and in this written Book many reafons were given for this Arbitrary Go- vernment, and againft being tied to Laws.as the inftance of Solo- mon 1 1 2 A New and further Di fernery of the mo n in commanding to divide the child upon the complaint of the true, and falfe Mother; as that Magiftrates were Gods, fo caird?efpecially in regard of their wifdome : 'Now. how or where- in fhould their wifdome and gifts be manifefted, if a liberty were not left to them ? for a boy migbt read the Law, and pronounce the fentence according tothat,and therefore that the gifts of Go- vernment might be exercifed, fentences and penalties fhould be left to the Magiftrates. This man tells me,many others read this Manufcript as well as he, and fo great notice was taken of it, that fome in New-Engl. When they were a going to ifoyftwjbr fpeajdng of going thither, would fay, lets take heed what we do there, leaft we ioofe our heads, for what offences the Governourfhall think and fay deferves beheading. Now as Independency,and many o- ther opinions being firft broached m New-England have come o- verintotf/^/, folhave reafonto fufpe&by the Arbitrary Govern- ment exercifed by too many in thefe times,and the great workings of many to uphold Arbitrary power, and to keep all things from being fetledin Common-wealth as well as in Church , there are fome' Sectaries of that opinion among us, efpecially when I lay to that opinion broached in - New-England, fome parages preached in a Sermon by Matter Peter -s^uguft 2.1646. at Iflington,on that Text on the fourth ofColof. verf.n. in which Sermon Mafter Peters (peaking of perfect men, ufed thefe words,and fuch like, Tee talk^of Laws, Laws; the Kingdome is not to be maintained -by L awes, but by perfetlmen. zAuguft 13. two BookfellersofP^/j 'Church-yard told me* that a Bookfeller offering to exchange Books, as Mafter 'Dents Path-wajes to Heaven for fome of Salt mar jhes Books, anfwer was made by a Se&arie, what do you bring fuch Books for ? you may ftop'bottles with them, we will take none of your old Divinity, we have new light and new Divinity now. A woman who fometimes was a Member of a Church of the Anabaptifts, acquainted me in fane fifth,fhe was of one Blunt, €mmes,2xA Wrighters Church,one of the firft and prime Churches of Anabaptifts' now in thefe latter times: This woman thought there was fomthing more^xcellent in this company,and that way, fchenin other men, and that (he might have trufted her life with them; but after awhile fl^ found $era a wreched people; The Church Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 1I3 Church broke into peeces,and feme went oneway, fome another, divers fell off to no Church at all.She married a husband aBox-ma- ker, one of Lams company ,who got from her all hecould,andfet up a Boxmakers-fhop on purpofe. as fhe conceives)to get what fhe had to furnifti a fhop with, and after a time went away from her into the Army, and though he came out of the Army a long while agoe,yet he keeps from her, and will not live with her, nor allow her any maintenance; and fhe having followed him to his Church and meetings, the Church maintaines him in it (as {"he reports to me) faying fhe is an unbeleever and of the world, what have they to do with her, with other words to that effect; and when Hie goes to any place,where (lie hears he is,or thinks fhe may find him, they abufeher,are ready to offer her violence, andfome ofthefc Sectaries will deny he is married to her, and bid her prove it. Now (lie tells me that in thofe An abaptifts Churches, (of which fhe fometimes was (they are not married by Minifters, nor by any other man fpeaking words to each party which they alfenc to, but before fome of their way they profeffe to take each other to live together, and one of their company writes down in a pa- per,with fome hands fubferibed to it, of two fuch going together onfucha day;\vhich writing this woman had in her keeping,but her husband coming in one night late after (lie was a bed, got it out of the place where fhe had laid it ; and now fhe is troubled how fhe (hall prove him to be her husband. There is one Mr Saltmarfcz. man who hath of late writ many trafhie Pamphlets,full fluffed with all kind of Errors,ignorance, and impudency, and hath been well anfwered and barled by three Learned Divines,two of them grave and ancient, Mafter gataker, and Mafter Le y;the third a young man_, Mafter w. and I am ftiil in his debt for fome paflages in his Groanes far Liberty ', and Reafons for Vmtj, Love and "Teuce, againft my rirft and fecond parts of Gangrana, but refolve to come out of it ; For befides what I have faid to him in the fecond part of gangrana , and fhall fay in this third,I purpofe to reckon with him once for all, in another Tra- ctate. This Mafter Saitmarfb this iaft half year hath much fol- lowed the Army,a fit place for him ; and of him and his Doctrine there, the Reader if he turne back to page 45. may read more. )!VhsnQxfordm$ taken, he was one of thofe faraousPrachers, Q^ who Ii6 ANmmd further Difcovery of the prove Chrift to be God, and anfwered them with the Arian, and Socinians evafions,and fo left them, never taking away thofe An- fwers;as if the man would in a fubtle clofe way, whil'ft he feemed to prove fomthing elfe,and conflite the Anabaptifts/ow the feeds ofSocinianifme: This Minifter was much troubled atit,fpakeof it to many Minifters of the City, how no Socinian could have pleaded againft Chrift being God, more then M.Goodww,io far as concerned the eluding of thofe Scriptures, which are the proofs of it, and could not but leave a tin&ure in the mind of the Audi- tors, that it could not be proved by Scripture that Jefus Chrift was God, feeing the cheif and moil: pregnant places for it were fb Anfwered. Thefe praclifes and way of (fretenfts, brings to my mind the practife oiSebaftian Franc k, a Learned man, and indeed the moft Learned Sectary of all the Sectaries in thefe latter times, both be- fore him, and in his age, who hath written a Book exprofejfoyto (hew the difcordances of Scriptures, laying down many inftances in this kind, and fo leaving them without fhewing any harmony or agreement ; Which Franck, being a great Seeker, and Enthu- fiaft, did it without all queftion upon a defigne to drawe men off from the Scriptures,to Revelations^ Two religious and under- standing Citizens told me the tenth of June laft, and faid they could bring many more to atteft it, that they heard (not long be- v fore) Mafter fohn Cjoodwin preach at his Conventicle as followes^ That we ihould not condemne any thing for an Error,till we had * taken as much paines in the fearching out whether it were fo or, cno,as he which broached the Error had done in promoting it? 'for he did beleeve a man might ferve God better in anError,then> s;he who was in the truth* • . r Here is a brave Patron of Err&r and a fine fetch to plead for and uphold it, for if Err our muft not be condemned till men have- taken fa much paines, it may never betoken againft, or at leaft not till* its grown tofuch a head that 'tis p aft help : For a Heretickjbho brea- ches any Dotirine againft the Scripures, the 7rmity3the humane na- ture of Chrift r fuftification, may fay to him who oppofes thefe Doff* Tines, I have ftudied this twenty yeares thefe points; when you have ftndkdthemai long) thenpreach^wri^) againft thWybnt not before, Be/ides E rrort and Proceedings of the Sett aries* j j 7 Beftdes this implies as if Ministers and Qhriftians could not before ti- ny Doctrines were Errors without long fe arching whether they werefo or no,and as if there were no received known principls andDoUrines of Chriftian Religion, lay'd down fo plainly and clearly in Scriptures ; that when error sVcere publijhed contrary to them, Mini fters and Qhri- fiians milht not condemne them at fir ft, but must ftudy and fear ch to know whether they were Errors or no ; which preaching fits ^vell •with many parages in fome Books of Cretenfis, ejpecially his thirtie eight Queres upon the Ordinance againft Herefte and BL;(phemie, Secondly /There are many thoufand truths both tobebelee- ' ved and pra&ifed, that are not contained in the Scriptures,as that ' Jefus Chrift Son of the Virgin Mary was the Son of God; as the c Refurredion from the dead, as Baptizing of Infants, womensre- ■ ceiving the Sacrament of the Lords Supper ; all which could not f be proved by Scripture,but by aftronghand of Reafon deducing them. Many other paflfages I have from good hands of (fre- /^^preaching,of his preferring Reafon before Faith in points of Religion; of holding the deeping of the foule till the Refurre&i- on,of bodies that dye not riling the fame again, with divers fuch; but I fhall referve them, with the proofs of them, both perfons* times and places, till my nex Anfwer comes out againft him , and fhall now inftance only in one Pamphlet lately fet forth by * him3 * J&[s Pam- cali'd fome Mode ft and humble Queres, upon the late Ordinance a- \^f fpokcrf" gainft Herefte s y concerning which I may fay as the Holy Ghoft anti belceved doth of Herods imprifoning John, he hath added yet this above all, by all to bee to write fuch a wicked Pamphlet, and at fuch a time, there being h;s, and irany not a more defperate ungodly, Atheifticall peece written by any ?fhls °[c1^ man fince the Reformation : I have had occalion to read many fa^fo^ * Difcourfes and Tra&ats of Libertines, and Scepticks that have been writ within this laft hundred years, and have feenmuch vvickedneffe in them, both in thofe of other Countries, and our own, efpecially thofe written and newly printed within five years laft paft ; but in none of them do I find ( all things confide- redj fuch a fpirit of Libertinifme, Atheifme, prophanefte and lay- ing wafte of all Religion, breathing,as in thefe Queres;for befides thofe evill fpirits of Error3fcofBng, diforder, confufion, irreligion that works in alhhe other Queres, ther's a Legion of wicked and uncieane; xl3 A New and further Dif cover j of the unckane fpirits (feven fold worfe then thofe that have been caft out)inthatfecond Quere,wherein it will appear manifeftly to all who compare the firlt part of the Ordinance with that Quere,that allChriftian Religion is overthrown at once, yea that principle written in all mens hearts by nature, that there is a God* for do- ctrines and opinions conrrary unto tbefe, for ought any knowes, may be the facred truchs of God, and the publifhers or them our Brethren, according to this Quere. Now I challenge any man co (hew me a more defperate deftru- ftivepaflage in the writings of any Libertine or Sectary then this: How hath the Lord left him tohimfelf, to write fuch Queries? I remember that in my Second Part oiGangrmti, in that part of ic which is a Reply to Crctenfts, in Page 35. I write thus, That I feared (uniefTe God gave him repentance) if hee lived but one fe- ven year?, hee would prove as Arch an Heretick, and a3 dangerous a man as ever England bred $ and that hee would be another 2>#» vid George, Franc ken, Socinus 5 and behold within a few moneths3 not giving God glory to repent of his evill deeds, but going on to write, hee hath by thefe Queries made good what I prophefied of him , and hath filled up the meafure of his iniquities 5 (o that I beleeve hee hath juftified Cornbert, Sebaftian Franck, Franc^n, So- cinwy David George^ with all the reft of that rabble ; and I doe not John 10 1 1» think 'tis lawfull for Chriftians to receive fuch a one into their hou(e, or to bid him God fpeed, but rather if they come where he is to fly from him , and not to flay, as Saint John did from Ce- rintbut ; and for his writing of the& Queries, I think godly Mi- nifters fpeaking of him, may call him as Polycaryw did Marciom I hope fome good hand will make Animadverfions upon them, ard give an Anrwer to thofe Queries. Now, notwithstanding all the deiperate opinions and principles he pleads for, and the Indepen- dent (eparated Church thatheeisMinifter of, there's one opini- on hee holds, and prattifes accordingly, different from the Inde- pendent way, viz. That Baptifme belongs not onely to the Chil- dren of thofe who are added to a particular Crmrch, and that JVh> nifters may not onely baptize the Children of Parents of their own Churchjbut may baptize Children to whom they have no relation , viz* in any Parim orplace where they are defired • and two honeft Citizens told me they heard him preach, That Baptifme was not Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. $n a Church Ordinance that required the pretence of che members of the Church, but might be adminiftred any where, either in the fame Congregation, or in another place : And, I conceive,though he be an Independent , yet he holds this and fome other things in his Church way dirfertnt from the other Independents; as for this Reafon, that he may be lingular in his way, and in Jbmething dif- fer from them, Co that bee might keep a doore open for his pro- fit and gain j and hence \is, I have been informed from teverall hands, Vnat as he is a zealous man for Funeral! Sermons, Co he is a Baptizer general), baptizing in Stepnej | Pari flb, H.ck^ey, feverall Parilhes of London ^ and baptizes fbmetimes three or foure in a day, going from one place to another, and that 'tis thought hee c^pj many times gets fifty (hillings and three pound a day by bap- tizing children who are not of his Church ; and I have fpoken withfome women, who have been at fuch bapti zings, and have teen the gold put into his hand ; which, I mutt confeffi, is a good wife way to the maintenance allowed him by his Church, to have this additionall means from them that are withour, for the more comfortable maintenance of his wife and children. But by the way, whilft Matter Goodwin baptizes tbofe who are not of his Church, which furely hee doth nor doe as a gifted Brother, but as a Minitter, and is an aft of power and office, not of love and charity onely, the Independents greateft and onely Argument to (peak of,ufed in the AfTembly, in their Sermons, and fbme prin- ted Books againft a P.esbyteriall Church, and Minifters ruling in common over more then their particular Congregation , is fully anlwered; for if they may of themfelves without the confent of the Minitter of that Congregation, baptize who are not of their Church, then certainly they may with confent of the Mini* iters and Officers of fuch Churches joyn in the ruling and go- verning of them who are not of their Congregations 5 and by this the'ruling power of Minifters does not extend further then their power of feeding by the word and Sacraments' and there- fore till I give Matter Burroughs a particular Anfwer to this Rea- fon of his, Wee would have the ruling power oftJKmiflerf not to ex~ tend further 1 &c. pag. 2 p. of his Vindication againft Matter Ed- wards 9 and fuch a like paflage in his Irenicum , I referre him to Matter Ooodmu to be fetisfed what reafeas tee hath to baptize ■■' " " *" " thofe 120 Minm no Se* nators. A Difcovery of New lights. A New and further Difcovery of the thofeover whom he hath not a Paftorall charge, and the fanre will be found co hold (Ironglier for a power of governing thofe who ate ncc of a Miniilers particular Congregaiion : and * ec Mailer Burroughs, if hee were pleafed to take notice, might find this very Argument anfwered in the Anttpologia, (being brought by the ^fpologifis in their J 'pologetic all Narration) and in the A£ femblies Anfwerto theReafons of the Diffenting Brethren given in againft Presbyteriall Government $ which Anfwers were ne- ver yet taken away by the Apologifts , or any of them ; and Cre- tenfis m his late pretended Reply to my Antapohgk takes no notice of them, as he does not to the reft of the Arguments againft their Non-communion, &c. but is (b wife as after raking two yeares and upward Lr Anfwer,yet to crave further day for pay- ment, filling up many meets with mending the Printers and Cor- rectors faults, and making many faults where there are none, letting palTeall the materiall things both in matters of fact and Arguments till a Second Part , which the Reader may expect ad Gr&cai Kakndts : And of this learned Kep/y to the Antapok- gie, a worthy Divine writes to me, Septemb. 12 as followes ; I *have lighted upon the frothy Anfwer to the Autapologie9of which c(laya(ide pedanticall jeers, unchriftian mifconftrucYiomRheto- 'ricallfhfhe?,md Jefaiticall equivocations) there will be fcarce * Co much of a folid Anfwer remaining as would fill one meet of * thofe 38.that fwells its puffe-pafte bulk. There is one Mafter Hugh Peters who came over from Mb?- Englmd about fi'/c yeares agoe, a great Agent for the Sectaries, who hath many wayes,by preaching, writing, conference and difc courfe, and above all by acting in feverall kinds, promoted the Independent way : The Reader (hall find him fpoken of in the Firft,and Second Parts of Gangrana, Pag. 40, 41. of the third E- dition, in fome of Mafter * Prym Books, in a Book called, The Se- U tries Anatomized, pag. 3. Now I will give the Reader an ac- count of him, in relating (ome of his paffages in Sermons, Books and Difcourfes. In Sermons hee hath preached as followes : In the firft yeare the Scots came into England hee hath in the Pulpit ipoken well of them •, as in a Sermon at Covent Garden, commend- ing their Army, hee faid there was in one Regiment of the Scots fifteen hundred or feventeen hundred Bibles; but fincethac time -.-.---^ - — - * 0f Err ours md Proceedings of the Sectaries. 1 2 1 of the new Modell of the Army,hee hath preached againft them, as at IaxvU in Suffex, where alfo hee (pake againft the Presby teri- ans, becaufe they will not live voluntarily upon the good will of the people, but will ftand upon (uch a meanes, whereas the Inde- pendents will preach freely, asking nothing; So at Mailer Gata- ken Ghbfth at Redriffe on the rnonerhly Fair-day., May 27. i6$6. hee preached againit the Scots by name, that thefe Scots now m the Land were a new Genera c ion, not thofe Scott that came in at firft to our help, but thefe were other Scots come from Sweat blandt Germany \ and he knew not whence 5 that fo his knowledge they had fentaway whole bufhefe full, or tuns full of money, at that time alfo hee preached concerning the monethly Falts, that they were Canonicallfet Fafts, and hee wiftied they were fufpended for a time, and Fafts taken up occafionally : And on May ij. at Crttciat Friars, he preached concerning the Scots, and of oar Ar- my, what a holy religious Army it was, and that they would have no warre with the Scots, unlefle it mould appeare out of the word of God they ought to have • and if it /hould prove fo , yet they would goe to right with their Brethren of Scotland with tears in their eyes. On the laft of May, 1 6*46. preaching at the Three Cranes in the Evening, he fpoke againft the * Common Councell, This wasupo* for medling with that they had nothing to do with, going beyond occaficn of their Commiflion, laying, Let them look into their Charter and the ^lty Re~ fee if there be any fuch thing mentioned : He found fault with the mon raiice Gity Remonftrance> faying , We now fall upon Remonftrating and Petitioning one againft another,inftead of giving God thanks for his late deliverances and mercies voucbiafed untoois. In this Sermon be Ipake (lightly of the Covenant, and of thole who mads fach a ftirre about it, in preffing the people to be careful! in flick- ing to it, as if they would have them to make an Idoll of the Co- venant : In this Sermon alfo hee (pake about the King to this pur- pofe, what a ftirre here was about a King, as if we could not live without one, and how fond we were to hug and embrace him,wh® ftruck us a boxontheeare the other day, and all becaufe he now ftroakes us on the cheeks : In this Sermon alfo he lpake, that wee were now grown to a refined Malignancy, fo that he faw no more difference between thefe times, and the firft times of the troubles, then between a half crown piece and two (hilling* and fix pence $ R bj 12 2 A New and further Difcovery cf the by his difcourfe in the Pulpit it was carried in fuch a way, as under the Malignant (hiking at the Presbyterian party, who oppofed Se&aiies: InthisSeimon he fpake alfo of the Army to this effect, that when hee thought of the Army, and the carriage of men to- wards them, hee thought of Jefus Chrift, how like they were to him, that as he went abcuc doing good and w Jrking miracles^ and at length the people crucified him, fo will men do with this Ar- my. This Sermon was f o offcn(ive,that I was told of it by divers •• and fome Citizens went to (peak with him about it, and the con- ference that pa fled between him and them I (hall acquaint the Rea- der with under the head of Mafter Titers dilcourfes. Mafter Pe~ ters in the Army in Hedington Fort hath preached againft the City cf London, incenfing the Army againit the City 5 of which the Reader may read more if he turn backward to page 24. * Ic was in Since the taking of Oxford by the Parliament forces hee hath fome of the preached in Saint UWaries> the lame day when Mafter *Sakmarfl? Newcs Books did, bsfides Oiher times that hee hath preached in Oxford, and ©f that week. thcrc g0e credible reports from \ er(ons of worth, both of ftrange1 paflages preached by him concerning the King, and of fbuldiersin the Army chat he could pick cut, that (hould he able to open Scri- ptures, draw Doctrines, make ufes better, and mor; proper, then any of the Schollers in the tlniverfitie . and that he would make aboy of twelve yeares of age to preach as good Divinitvasmoitof them, or to that efTeel: : But bfcaufe I had notthefe Relatkns at firft hand from eare ivimefies, I will not aflert them till I have ful- ler proof. Mafter Peters at Fljmoutb, and (ince at London preach- ed, thatiuppofe a Father have five Children, one adrunkard, another an adulterer, a third a fwearer, and fo in the reft, and hee cannot reclaim them, will hee prefently throw them into the Thames? will he net wait for their amendment, ufemeanesfor their con verfion? fo now in a Kingdome, their are fome ^nabap* tills, others Antinomians, others Brownifts, others Papift*; will the Magjftrat prefently4becau(e thefe cannot beleeve their Truths, cut orTtheir heads and kill them > with more words to this e eft. M- Peters preached at Live Ions In w,u pon that f :xt,^#; ^.otGama- tiels counfdl, and upon that Text in the fame Sermon he contradi- cted him(elf5 for his firft point taken from Gat aliel, that Gamaliel a great man inplace,ariciiraan, andyeE a graceldJe wicked man was Errors and Proceeding s of the Sectaries. 123 was this,that a man may be a great man in place,power, and yet a gracelefTeman; and in the latter part of his Text and Sermon, faefel upon fpeaking of Gamaliels giving that counfc[, Refrain from thefe men andlct them aloncy and there he called him good Gama- liel, honeft Cjamal'iel) wiftgdmati&i, with many words to that purpofe, faving, c I profeffe I had rather live under Cjamaliels Go- * vernment then any I know of; where fhall a man read of fuch a c man ? I had rather live under Gamaliels Government , then un- ' der any of the Presbyterians. And in his pleading for Liberty of confeience upon thofe words of Gamaliel, on^o^ hisxAArguments * againftall reftraint was, becaufe we the Englifli Nation naturally above others were given to change, and did not love to be held to any thing ; in a few years we turned foure or five times, we were Papifts in Henry the eights dayes,Proteftants in King Edwards dayes, Papifts in Quene Marys dayes, Proteftants again in Queen Elizabeths raigne. Mafter Peters preached on a folemne day of thankfgiving at Qhrift Churchy before both Houies, the City of Z W^/,the AfTembly; and in that Sermon among many other odd pafrages,he would make a marriage that day between the Parlia- rner t and the City, marry them together, and he bid all thofe who confented to this marriage to hold up their hands,he holding up his own ; but as it fell out this did not take, for very few of the Congregation held up their hands: I heard not the Ser- mon, but it was related to me by fome Minifters, and Citizens, who did hearit,that they beleeve never in the memory of man lb weak and fo odd a Sermon was preached before fuch anAuditory. InAngtift laft,Mafter Meters preached at Stepny upon that Text, In meyee JhaR have peace ; on which words he difcourfed as followes;That now every one was inquiring after peace,asking for peacemaking peacCj ne told, them here was peace in Chrift, but as for that other peace which they fo much asked after ,though now they had a month or two,a time of cefTation,reprivall for in Gods keeping Seilions, yet they muft look fhortly for Warre; and hefaidforhimfelf, though many are for peace, peace, hee was for Warre ; he laid there were times and oners of peace, which God ofterethto places, and if they take them, well and good, but if not, they may never have them more; and he cry ed out,0 $tefnj, Steptny} thou haft had thy time of peace, and the R 2 day 124, A Nw tnd further Discovery of the * Matter Bur. day of viMtation by * two famous and worthy lights^you have had roughs &c your morning Star, and your evening Sar; ftillhe fpakeoftwo p^achif 2 a' *%nts ^ome half a fcore times in this Sermon, never taking notice bout n'vcna Q? a third, Do&or Hoy le, theMinifterof the place ; and fpeak- clokc in the ing of the offers of peace, which if men take not, they fhall never mcmiig, and nave again, hefpake of New-Caftle and the King, how he had Ml 'Gree"hJl had offers of peace in the Proportions lately fenthim, but for clock^iir [he 0llgnt ne knew f°r refuting the offer of peace, hee might never afkrnoone, have it more , but he and his Children, and that ere long might £jo beg their bread. I might further relate fome paffages of Ser- mons preached by him in divers other places, as IJllngton, (where commonly upon his returne out of the Army hepayes hisfirft fruits) trapping, Fijhftreet-hi/, Lumbar d^reet^Qhensf or djCent.HoU land ,with other places; but I have yet divers things to relate of his conferences and difcourfes, and out of his printed Pamphlets ; and fhall come from his Sermons to fome of his Difcourfes : A godly underftanding Citizen told me the twenty ninth of May laft,that Matter Peters had faid to him a few dayes before^that the City Remonftrance was the foundation of all the Cities mifery, and would be fo,the Army would disband, and the Commanders would come and lay down Armes prefently upon it, He brag'd iifotothis Citizen, that he would prove the Church of England to be no true Quirch,and meet any man to maintaine it next mor- ning at eight of the clock. Upon Mafttr Peters Sermon prea- ched the laft of May ,164(6. at the three Cranes fpoken .of a little before, there were two Citizens being offended at many paffages in that Sermon, went to him that night to conferre with him for fatisfadion, and under both their hands they gave me in writing thefummeofthe conference between him and them, whichisas followes. Upon oceafion ofMafter Hugh "Peters preaching at the three franes Church in the Yintry^z went to fptak with Ma- iler Peters about his Sermon, and finding him at Coloneil Row- landwilfons houfe,we waited on him till he came forth,and fpeak- ing to him,one of us told him we had fome bufineffe withhim,and would come to him another time, apprehending it unfeafonable becaufe late;he told us we muftfpeak with him now,for he was to go forth of London the next morning about foure of the clock : We then told him we came tofpeakwkh him about fomethings he \ Err oars and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 125 fie had preached that afternoon- and the firft thing we fpake to him of, was, thathefhould fay men made an Idoli of the Cove- nant, to which Mafter Peters replied, fo you do, I can meet with none almoft in London, but they cry out , the Covenant, the Co- venant, as if we were beafts before we took the Covenant, and that made us men ; he further faid that he had taken it (as hec thought) at leaft twenty times, and faw nothing in it, that men fhould make fuch a ftir about it : We fpake to him of his fpeaking in his Sermon againft the City Remonft. he flood to juftifie what he had faid, and caild it a wicked thing,and being asked wherin, he faid there was a palTage in it,that no godly man muft live amongft its, or have any place of truftin the Kingdome ; being told there was no fuch paftage in the Remonftrace, and that he being a Mi- nifter might be afhamed to fpeak that which was fo falfe ; a friend of his ftanding by,faid, Mailer Peters meant, it wasfo in effect j. and Mafter Peters laid, that we would let no Sectaries (as wee termed hem)lrve or have any place of truft amongft us,and for his part hee was^an Independent, and one of thofe we termed Seda- ries,and in that no Independent nor Sectary might have any places of truft,that implyed the godly; it being replyed the word Inde- pendent was not exprefted in the Remonftrance, he affirmed it was, but other difcourfe put of the examination ofk: Mafter Peters faid what would we have, and asked if we did not live well and quietly enough,and might not follow our Trades and bufineffe in peace, and why fhould we trouble our felves with thefe things; the Seels and Schifmes did us no harme ; we told him there was other danger befides our Trades, they deftroyed foules, and wee were bound by our Covenant to oppofe Herefies and Schifme?3 and asked him whether or no it was not lawfull and warrantable to Remonftrate, or Petition againft finne and Errour, and whe- ther our late Petitions againft Popery and Prelacy were not Jufti- fiable, and whether or no he had not a hand in that againft Bi^ ihops ? He anfwered he thoughtErrors did not fo deftroy fouies3 and that he could worke upon a Papift as foon as one of your Pro- teftants : And for the Bilhopsjnad not they troubled him in his temporalis by taking from him his maintenance, and fubfiftence., he had never molefted or troubled them; for he knew not but that the Papifts;Prekts> and wcrm&ht live quietly together, and ferve 126 A New and further Difcovery $f the ierveGodin love and peace. And being asked then, how the Parliament could juftifte their quarrell,and Warre yet on foot See- ing they oppofed both, by open Armes, terming it in all their De- clarations the caufeofGod and Religion; He anfwered that the true caufe was not for Religion, for he knew no word of God to warrant fighting^or taking up of Armcs in the caufe of Religion, but it was only to maintain our civill rights and liberties ; and there being difcourfe of the Magiftrats power, he asked what the Magiftrate had to do in Religion? anfwer was made, the Magi- ftrate had power to put Blasphemers and Idolaters to death ; Matter Peters replyed,yes in the old-law, but none in the Goipel; He being asked by what power they in New-England did banifh for opinions, he made a kind of a flight anfwer, faying they did but fend them over a River out of the Patent ; and would you would give us Qornwell^ we would be content to live there. He being ipoken to about what he faid of the King, was asked whether wee ought not to ufe all lawfull wayes for bringing the King unto his people,feeing he lately had made fuch faire ofrers ? Matter Peters replyed,we might truft him if we would,but if we knew what Let- ters of his they had lately intercepted in the Army,we would foon be of another mind, Mafter Peters asked us,whccher as we came; to him about what he preached, had we ever been with Mafter Ed- wards about what he had written againft the Saints: we told him we conceived Mafter Edwards had written nothing againft the Saints, neither was what he had written any offence to usjas what he had preached was, and that we had caufe to beleeve what Mr Edwards had written was true,he being a godly Minifter : Mafter Peters asked what had he to do with the particular infirmities of particular men;we told him as he was a Minifter of the Gofpel, he had to do with them, as Paul had to do with Hymenem & Philetas; Mafter Peters faid that was in matter <5f Faith, but Mafter Edwards had medled with the Saints in matters of praclife ; to which wee replyed that Saint fohn wrote againft Diotrophes in point of pra- clife- and wherein men made their feeming holineffe a meanes for the receiving of their Erroneous opinions, there was caufe that their pra&ifes fhould be fpoken againft to undeceive people ; and fo parting with him, one of us advifed him to forbear his pradifes, for hee laboured to deceive {he people, fme the third, 1646. I Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 127 I walking in mftwinifler Hall, Mafter Peters meeting me, fpake to me, that I had abufed him in Print, and that I had broken a GoCpel Tule,which was, If thy brother o^end tbce&o and tell him hU fault be- trveenhim and thee alone; Ianfwered him I had not cranfgrefled the rule,forthat was in cafe of private offending, but he had publikely preached and vented himielf3 and private telling would not have been a remedy fufficient; he (aid I had wronged him in thofe things I had written of him, and that coming twice up from the Army, each time he found himfelf in a Book of mine: I told him I would prove them, and name time and place when and where de- livered; and he was like to be in a third Book; whereupon hee call'dme Knave,and ftincking fellow ; I anfweredhimhe had abu- sed our Brethren of Scotland^ and I told him what I had written I would make good- and Co fpake quick and freely to him; where- upon he faid fpeak no: fo loud , and threatned to beate me or falL about my eares, faying I spake againft the Saints; I replyed, Paul Befo Wrighter, 8cc. ftich Saints, but he made nothing to fpeak a- gainft the Reformed Churches and Presbyterians in his Sermons., and they were no Saints with him j (bme other difcourfe there paf- fed at the fame time between us, but no more ofic now: And laltly that the Reader may judge of Matter Peters by hisditcoiir/ey I was told it within thclefew weeks from good hands,upon occa- sion of pigeons beingonatible, that Matter Peters at that table fpake what a world of pigeons they had in New- England, how hee fcadfeenfuch a flight there, fuch a number at once even covering the heavens>and being asked whence they mould come,he anf#er- ed from an Ifland not far off, which was twenty miles long and «£5 three miles b, oad, which was fo full of pigeons, that the Ifland was all covered over with pigeons dung two foot deep. Now as I have given the Reader fomc paflages of his Sermons and difcourfes, fol will give a tafte ofrhe man,by extracting a few things out ot . fomeof his Pamphlets, and I will begin with his Book calPd Mr Peters lafl Report of the E-.-gtifb Wars, which a great Commander of the Army commonly czlY sPeters Politicks, upon which Ifhail make fome Observations and Aninaadverfions, though breifly, N°-w in this Pamphlet entituled Mafter Peters la ft report of the, JLtiglifb Wars (which I heartily wi(h may prove bts laft Report of fche Enghih Wars J Idefire the Reader to obferve two things; Firfr5 i 28 A New and further Difcoverj of the Fir(t, the maine defigne and (cope of thefe Anfwers and Reporcs: Secondly, the way and manner of managing ir, to make his defigne take, not careing how filfiy and partially he relates both of hitn- (elf and others, things manifeftly known to be untrue. For his de- figne and aime, itappeares to ftand in thefe 11. particulars, as I (hall point the Reader to the pages all along, where he may find them. 1. He is folicitoas and induftrious to excufe, take off all blame and fau1! in every thing from the Sectaries y and from fuch in the Army accounted of his Religion and way,a$ appears by thefe pa£ fages among others,page 8* CI could adde that we take caufam pro ' non caHfa,we put our troubles upon Schifmaticks and Of inionifta, 'and never attend the true caufe. There may (hortly be a great c change in the Netherlands, but you (hall find the caufe not in the „ r. . £?* * harmleffe Anabaptifts, &c. page 2. Only let me be your true In- thcfuwcniicr c former, that you had nothing committed then by* ours that had of Oxford* 'not its rife from integrity and faithfulnefle to the State, accomp*- f nied with fuch skill,as the Lord was pleafed to difpenle ; and let cGod ufeth his own media only, violence 'becommeth not Saints: In Popifh times the Clergy had not the ^coercive power, but fubje&ed the civill Magiftrate to do their € work, I wifh the State keep a good bolt upon that dore : I am con- ' fident the chief means to greaten an Error, will be by violence and 'oppofition, when flighted it dies. Coals blown get heat & firength, * negletted grow cold. I wifh every one might be fevereLy punifli- *ed that fpoke againft either Presbytery or Independency, till they 'could define that aright, and dilHnguifti about them and their ' wayess then I beleeve we fhould have ahum fiknuum, page 1 u Let c it be our care that after ages may not lay we conquered our felves 'into a new flavery* 3. His defigne is in laying together Presbytery and Indepei- dency,to advance Independency, and fee it on high, and deprefle Presbytery Errours and Proceedings of the Sectaries. H9 Presb; eery in companion, as In Pag. 7. (peaking of Scotland hee faith, cIt will be thesr mercy to keep wha: they have, and ours to cbe growing up to what wee deilrej and again in the fame page, cLec theprefencChurch-G. .vernment gee on, and waBtfbftly and ccendcrly, let thofe that longed for it improve it, Et vakat quan- ttamvderepottf- let others that are godly know, it may help , at leait to hew (tone, and fquare timber for a more glorious build- ing, to bring from one extremity to another : Where by the way the Pleader may obferve , how he puts thofe that are godly , by way of opposition, to thofe who longed for the pr£ fen c Church- G jvernment , Let others thit are Godly liyivv it may help , as if none that were godly longed for Presbyterkll Government ; as al (6 how contemptibly he (peaks of the Presbyteriall Government in comparison of the Independent, in thefe words, It m*J help at kafl to beivfl w9 and fqnzre timber for a more glorious hntlding^ to bring from one extremity t& another, that is, from Prelacy to Independen- cy ; but I can tell Matter Teterj, that he is deceived in presbytery, for few that ever entertain that,and improve ir,tfo fall to Indeper- dency ; but Independency fall the world may fee) and I rave fully proved it in rheFirlt pirtolGingMna, ihe fourth Corol- lary, that Independent Government is the mother and nune of all Herefics and Errours, and doth not onely help at leaO, but is the chiefe work-man to hew (tone, and fquare timber , for ihe more glorious building of Anabaptiime, Antinomianifme, Liber- tinifme, yea Scepricifme and Atheifme; and before I conclude thi9, I defire the Reader to obferve, how God hath left this man to wound his own caufe with his own pen, and agamfi his will to fpeak well of Presbyrerlall Government, whilst hee was advan- cing the one and deprefling the other, viz\ in thofe words, ti hiring from one extremity to another , where he makes Independency to be the other extreme to prelacy, and Presbytery to be th£ medium between them: now all Schollars know, In medio 5 viz. of ex- tremes, though not of degrees, ccrfftit vTtrus\ and if Indepen- dency be an extremity, it doth offend againft the rule, as well as Epifcopacy. 4 ^'taller Peters in this his laft report is not only careful 1 to excufe, protect, and highly commend the Sefts and Opinions of the. times, butheisltudyingofnewprojetts for the propagating and S (preading l$ot A New and farther Dtfcovery of the fpreading of Se&arifme (as if ic grew not faft enough,) both in this and other Kingdoroes , as the [icader may eafily obfervein thefepaflages: Pag- 8. c Your demand of my thoughts of England € in order toioraign States J anfwer with a wi(h, viz. That forth- * with we might have fome choice. Agents fent cu^as two. to Sn>e- i d.??, two to the Cantons our good friends , two to the Neibtr- (hnh9zvid f) to other Parts, as we fee ciure, and thefe accompa* £nied with a Manifeft of Gods gracious dealings with this State,&c« N;w certainly Matter V tiers mutt be one, and fume other honeft godly men, (which the Presbyterians are not, as appears^by what a little above I obferved from Matter Peters words) a&ive Inde- pendents of Matter Peters acquaintance , as Matter H. Matter B. gaffer 7\ Matter T. and others, who together with the Mani- fett of Gods gracious dealings with this State, may by way of comment and enlarging tell have (lories of the Victories and Co* quctts of the Independents in Rjzeby Field, entring of Corn- wall, at Torrington, of taking fuch and fuch Towns, Chies, by fiich and fuch Colonels and Commanders , when indeed they ei- ther never ttruck a (broke at that time ? or were many myles ab- lent, or the work was done to their hands by others , and they only fent for to have the honour to be made Goveraours, to en- joy the flefh, the skin, and the o) le of the Lion and the Leviathan, t?hen they had their deaths wounds before 5 for the proofe of which feverall particulars, I could give notable inttances moft certainly true, confuting the weekly Pamphleters, cr>ing up of fome men * and fayi g nohing of others , and ask where fuch a one was, and how many ttrokes he ttruck at N&zebj Field , and who routed Goring and his Horfe in the Weft about Rndgen>ater9 and drew the modell how to (form Bridgewater, and who routed the Enemy at the entrance into Cornwall, and who reduced Ext- te^ and fForcefter to the latt point of extremity, wi.h many par- ticulars about Bnftoro^ and at O.sjord% but It (hail not need, there are fome men in the Army upon the places keep a true accountof thefe things, and in a convenient time will fpeak, and undeceive the world. And Co Matter Peters pag. 12. writes thus, < How long c therefore (hall I intreat forae three or foure Itinerary Minifters *« a Counc y > Ev angel ifts went out before Churches were fetled- 'how eafily might the Land be in fome meafure reduced to God5. and £■';-. -' :- .-:.::' - ' r '-.i '.'■'* '■ - o-m civ:' lit -::- -.-'-.: si.t-:- I*- -..: V:u :.t :'t "..-:: :! - »_; aaaiec:c *tKer Reformed C-- -dgatbt ' E tf vtli 2! abroad, and ■■-* " • riserarv BfiDitters in every Coonrj :of;, :-t;t"Jrt :;•?-;?- -£->,:" :-*i: :~-. " - :: : ~i i: : :" . f •.': :~ : a~ : .:. . tt: :"t £• .••'_:•;- ::: - I ;: * :-..'• en that lean bears of dra: :* :;;. :.:- : - ; , t : 2 ': : :- !: t : Z ~ - _d&L immfF*-^ Matter Cr^nr*. Master 5jna«*fr, •.;--:_:--,-;. ~ - ; . -: - : : : : " -. r. .: . t . -*::_;- Ikoow to beiach, and tezYme czirsnz : ::j:-::":::H:-'::'*:::' :' = A 7 ~: : - : -- t :: _: Hoofcaoaccxotef ihem-, aodkt tbcrefcorfdr en- dent Preacben enough for da work . M-rr^r rV*rrr is earae£ .-• = ; : .'-s £L:-t::: : :.: "; ' :::. :~: --'. 1 r- "- . •" .: Tpr: ;- rnent, and cfocieh they fall ton afar -ay let rae ask Marrsr Pffery, Vrr not fc fctmCiBrfiiMk, botallrc " s ckarly fewe? the 4e- den and Qftrro, rfaeymay earn tbeopr»OT.!_A:h= - • •- ; ~r.i: : =?. :t t_ ft: -t :■: - :: 7~_; :: : ^ - " . • - ' : ■■ • : ' - :z, :-; J :-- = -:;:: L: :-;-.:.-::'-. r. :::z izz -zz: i: i :.: .an* wtote CocaaaaDd: i i r J**»:^ caa :: ■ fignnoaayaoobcr cbeir Maiters, r£& cbe Par^cnen^ drtt. S ; ::..-< 1 3 2 A New and further Difcevery of the •broke our necks. Sopag.4. For Worcefter, J am (brry Co little is Spoken of !r, where fa much worth and gallantry appeared, and 'indee i I cannot remember where I have (een (o much done in (o 'mort a time; foure Regiments of Foot under the command of Co- lonel 1 Rti'who row came, and raifed works within Pjitoll ftct of 'their Royal) Sconce.Scc. wherein Li evtenant Coloneil Pride^ and 'Liev-taiant Coloneil Ewers had a chief (hare, whereupon the Ene- cmy accepts o£ thofe Proportions you have (een : and truly I wifh 'Coloneil Kambororvdi iutable invployment by fea, or land, for rks within Piitoll fhor,&c. whereas I have been told from good hands, and fa 1 beJeeve hath M titer Tettrs before this, of ihe great wrong and injury he hath dene C'lonel! JVoa* ley in this Relation, Coloneil Wh- ey b fore ever Coloneil Rain~ horowvite fent, having reduceo tyu.pr to the laft point, and Worcefler being in a luch condition then, that there wanted lit- tle elfe tantumnon^ that it was ,ioc a dually farrendred • but of this more afterwards. So psg. 6* 'Fearenot thaj Army whole •Commanders like Samuel^ never ft wer complaints, wr many *men of fuch quality, whole defign is^nly to obey their M afters, 'viz. the Parliament* as if no other Army or Commanders like *them. Andfopag.io. Byiheiame means , he mercy is gained, it 'may be preferved 5 if men, yea good men were initrumentall in "the one,they mud be in the other 5 confide when you fee caufe to *CQnficle,&c. as if no o*her Arniies were means to ^ain Conquefts and Etrours and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 12? and Victories bun this, nor none other to be trufted rocon/erve what is won 5 aid inftances in men to be credited with Garrifbns whoarehontft godly Engltjh-mm, ("we may know by other pa£ feges who are his honeft godly Englijh-men, viz. Sectaries, and fuch as are oppose to the Scots) though difreri g in opinion, asall/Vjwab^ing rnoft Catholike trufts it (elf to their Proreitant Leaders : So would he have all places or ftrength and command nulled with Independents, Anabaptifts, though the Parliament be Presbyterian. 7. The (evciKh particular in this Pamphlet is 3 theexceffive boating, cruiting in, and omnifying this Army, as if it were om- nipotent, able not only for all ends and purposes at home, bat to conquer all Chrifiendome3 yea the whole world 3 t) goe to Bavaria, Lorain, the Palatinate, L eland, France, to inceunter for- raign threamings, and teach Peafants to underhand Liberty, to fecure us againft Vanes and Saxons 3 yea to cauie the Weft Indies and the Eaft to offer themlelves to our devotion ; the proofe of which the Header may find pag.6. c Were I pedwaded that for- 'raign threatnings were in earner!:, I wifli this Army might be c(ent to encounter them, and teach Peafants to underftani Liber- €ty5 and I would not doubt but to fce good fruit of ic fbon, I * would racher our men fhould live upon their wine,then they up- eon our beer. So pag: 9,10. What ycuhear of a conjunction be- 1 tween the Prince o- Walts and his Lievtenant General! the Duke * of Lorain, w? h (ome po^iies from his Uncle 'Bavaria, need not trouble you 5 the Danes and Saxons never mattered this Hand f by power, bu* by our home-bred diftempers. To prevent thofe < fears, let E./g \Jh en keep to their proper Interefts, and Scots to 'theirr, and I know not why we might not martch into Bavaria •and Lorain before they come to us, and make them pay all old c Arreares. I muftconfeue I am divided between Ireland and the c Palatinate, only X qui t my felt in this, that we may doe both, 'Andagaine, pa&p. f And if our back-doore were well mut at 'home, how might Euphrates be dryed up ; I meane the Weft i Indies, and th? E;fi too offer them&lves to our devotion. And rot only Malttr Peters, but divers other Sectaries do in afore deifie this Army ; I beleeve never was there an Army, or rather one fort of men in the Army, viz. Independents and Ss&aries, To- S $. cryed 134 ** New and further D/fcoveryof the cryed up in Pulpits, Pamphlets, Speeches, and that to their fa ce<% ' as this is : I might relate pafTagcs out of Sermons, printed Pam- phlets of the Saim sin the Army,the Independents calling them the ftrengih, prefervers, deliverers of the Presbyterians, tha inftru- nients under God by which we enjoy all, &£ But I mult abrevi- ate and conclude this with afpeech lately related to me, of a great man of Mailer Peters his Religion, that adifcourie ariiing about the great Turk feaiing on fome of our Merchants goods in Turkje9 upon occailotiof the difference between King and Parliament (the Ambaflador there being on the Kings fide) and what courfe there might be to help it, $ heanfwered to this e#e£r,wehad an Army that the terror of jt was fuch, that we needed rottofeare the great 7V%, but it might go to the gates of Conflantinopk and de- maud right. 8. Matter Peters defigne is to plead for the keeping this Ar- my on foot ftiU,and that in England for this Winter at leaft, and to poflefle men of the need of it, and to perfwade againft the disban- ding of it by any meanesjand to work this the more he runnes into praifes of the Army and Commanders, of which the Reader may find fuch paflages as thefc page 6. c Ycur demand about the difpe- cfing the Army, is not fo proper for a private pen to engage in ; * yet this I may fay, that other Nations in our condition would € think, if they look round about them, and within them,the dis- * banding an Army fiftrufty) ought not to be a work ofhafte : c When the teas are down in England, I think the paflage into Jre- C/Wwillbeeafier; and if we can maintain a defensive Warre this * Wintcr,T truftthe fpring will invite many over thither ; in the ' meane if thefe faithfull Commanders were in Garrifbns (without * any defigne be it fpoken) you have alwayes an Army ready, the 'private (ouldier will ftill runne to his honeft and well known * Commander,^. Briefly I (ay this to ycur queflion,that this Ar- * my was hardly gotten, and I wi(h it may be as hardly disbanded; and fo page io. fpeaking of preserving the conquefis, hee writes thus, c By the fame meanes the mercy is gained it may be pre- served* if men, yea good men were inftrument all in the one,they ' muft be in the other : And of their praifes, that they may not bee disbanded, fee page 5. * I find our Souldiers generally in the old admired by the enemy for € their Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries* j * j •their gallantry and Conduft,- And page 6.c Fearenot that Army, cwhofe Commanders (like Samuel J can ask any County or 'Town where they bave been, whofe Oxe or Afle have they taken. p. Matter Feters clo'ely, but fhrewdly ftrickes at that neef con- junction and union, joynt intereft of both Nations as on.' by vertue cfche Coveisnt in a uniformity of Religion, in DoSrine, Go- vernment and Difcipline, and labours to divide between them, by hinting paffigevo look upon them not as one, but as two King- domes.having different interefls 5 for proof of which the Reader may take notice of thefe following paffiges, page 7. c Let us re- * memb:r England a^ it was never conquered but by faction, fo ic *can never be ruled but by love; the fcme Laft will not fit an * En&lfyb and a Scottish foot 5 they came not fuddenly to what they 'enjoy, and therefore mould give E>zg/jwd a little breathing over * what is propounded 5 it will be their mercy to keep what they 'have, and ours to be growing up to what wedefire r Sopage io0 'To prevent thole feares let Englifh men keep to their pre c per interefts, and Scots to theirs. I would as fbon credit a Gar- 'rifon to a known honeft godly Englifh man, differing from me in ' his opinion, &:. And pray Matter Peters why not a known ho- neft godly Scotch- man differing from you in his opinion ; imply- ing a Scotch-man, though a known honeft godly man,difrering in. opinion, you would not truft. 10. Mafter Peters ftrickes at the City of London and their Re-- monftr-ance page 11. in thefe pafllige?, fpeakirgof ouriue enemies, faith, c Their higheft defigne now is to make it Royall 5 you may c remember how. willing I was once to have made a match, my * weaknefie was fuchjthat I did not ftudy whether both parties were c well agreed,and my fimpiiciiy kept me from thinking, of a Corn- € vail ; andlet London know, that ifthey think a Parliament fits the * quieter by being fonear them, fo I think when the Parliament 1 doores are (hut up at Weftminfier^ their (hops will hardly ft and o- * pen at London* If the claftiing of fwords cannot be heard, yet * death climbing up their windowes by the increafe of the plague^ 'calls for fomething.And in the fame page again/ Had the Ci» 'tizens Remonftrated more about their debts due, and tefle about *thdr wills, they might have had more thanks* and itniay be by « this 136 ^ ft'w md farther Difcovery of the ' this ume/ome might have kegsOrphanes fr©m their doores, that c cry f-»r the. money lenwofupplytfie -Starts tifeDiuolagnrrsti- 1*4 Mr Peters defigne in his Aniwer to (even Queres is to re- prefent and render himfelf all along as feme great Statefraan^ and knowing rnan,a great Traveller, and of great experience, a' man be- loved of godly nsen^ and refpe&ed at home and abroad, a man of great inteceft in the moil: Learned and godly men of other Nations, as Mailer Forbs the Scotchman, Doctor Ames, a man lb active as if he did ail, and id wife as to give Anfwer to Queres, and Coimfell and Reibluiion to Parliament men(as by lome paflages in theie An- (vverSj it fhould (eem this friend wasjin the hardeit matters, both of Church and State, a man that could not be miffed by the Pari!* mentor the Army, not (pared our of Ewg/m/, and fuch hints have been given out both in Sermons, and in Speeches. Now the whole frame QfthtQuer.es and Anfwers (hewes this to be bts aime, but more particularly thefe pafTages, page 4, c Matter Richard * Salwey, a Member of the Houfe, who was of our Counfeil in this f work : I preached at JVorcefler atour coming in, anddid obietve ' a doore open to the Goipel. Mafler Peters was of the Counfeil belike, for taking of Worcefter, and the man who preached upon the coming in of the Parliament forces to the Town : And I beleeve he, and others of his fellowes were of the Councell to get Colo- nell Rainborow to be fenc to take Worcester, when that gallant Co- lonel] FValey had done the dcQds that Co a Presbyterian might nei- ther enjoy the honour, nor the fruit of his labours ,• And though I have never been at PForcefie^ yet upon report of credible per- fbns, I can make another obiervation then Mailer Peters upon fas preaching at Worcefter^ and the Garriibn and Government there, viz, inftead of a door open to the Goipel, a doore is opened at Worcefler tolnd£pendeocy5and to all kind of Se£b; a doore opened for Clement JVHghter that Amifcripturift, Sceptick (fpoken fo much of in my firlt part of Gangrana) to be there, and to vent his Hereiies and Blafphemies ; And I am certainly informed, two Sectaries ate already publike Preachers In the: City of Worctfter% one Mafter Lamence^ho was before at pvarwick^ and one Mafter Moore, And Co page 6* Mafler Peters gives counfell^he wifhes the Army may be as hardly disbanded as it was gotten, he Hates the dileafeofourpreientdifferences,arKlpreicribesthe cure 5 he gives directions Errmrs and Proceedings of the SeMmes . * 3 7 directions aboutfendingcoforraigne States, page 2. 9. about die ordering of our Councils, and z£urc$,pgcr, Schh-fcU burgim>Honen(lK^f3uido de IJye^wkh many others5have laid thefc open to the wortd : And if we look upon our Anabaptilk at home, and-confider what many of them have done and do day |y low can we call th.em nafmlefle ? Are they ha cm telle who in con- tempt of Baptilme have pifledin the Font, have fedu a korfe into, ■the Church and baptized, it? Who aflau.lt with violence godly Minifters, put them out of their Pulpits by force,cpenly affront them,, and invade their Pulpits whether they will or no: Who make tumults and riots in Countries : Who kill tender young perfons and ancient with dipping them all over in Rivers, in the depth of Winter: Who give out that they wilj never lay down ifeejr fwor4s whilPc ther's a Prieft in England : Who write and jpriat libelk, full fluffed with inveclives and feditious fpeeches- againft the Right Honourable Ho nfe of Peers, undoubtedly a Court of Record, 'the highefc Court of Judicature in this King- dome : Who make wicked libells and fpread them abroad of No- ble meo, and perfons of great place by name,as that religious and Noble Earle of ' Manchejhr, the Lord Major of London, a whole Kingdo.me.as Scotland^ and a whole City,as London : Who have endeavored and do by ail wayes to involve thefe Kingdom.es into a new War, more deadly and deftru&ive then the former, And yet Anabaptifts of our times are guilty of all thefe and many more, as the Reader may findproved in this Book, and divers o~ thers written in thefe times. Thirdly, fpeaking of himfelf he faith, He remalnes now where he wasforjubftance fifteen years fince, wh ich I cannot judge to bee true, nonorthatheisthe fame for fabftance which he vvasfeven years agoc- and becaufe I will be brief,I will put but one queftion to Mailer Peters, and that is, whether fifteen years or but feven years agoe he was for a Toleration of ail forts of Sects, Anabap- tifts,Antiriomians5 Seekers,Papifts, && and thought fc light ly of hrrors and Herefies as now he dees; or whether he ever did3 •ordurftin New-England inthetiflfte. of Anabaptifts and Antino- tfiians growing there, preach fuch Sermons for a Toleration of T 2 them, 1 40 A Ntrv and further Difcovtry of the them, anci fpeake io favorably of them, as he hath done,and doth here ? I am of the mind if any man fhould have told him fifteen, or feven years agoe, Matter liters xkt time (liali come, that you fhall live in a Kingdome where ail damnable Herefies and wicked doctrines ihall be vented, by pnnting,preaching; and you ("hail be fo farre from feekihg to fuppreile and hinder them, as that you {hail hMe nothing of them,preach for a Toleration of them, cry them up for Saints who hold them5 plot, acT, ride, work night and day for the upholding of them ; he would have been very angry, boiilerous,and have faid, as Hazael to the Prophet, zAml a dog that IJhoulddo thefe things ? nay,I am fo well perfwaded of MrP\r3that he was fo farre fifteen years agoe from being of thefe 0- pinionsand running thefe wayes, that I am confident 'tis but a few years agoe fince he is fallen thus ; and that the two things that have poyfonedhim, are his being in the Army, andhiscon- verfe with fome wicked Politicians of thefe times,who upon mat- ter of worldly intereft, being men of imall and broken eftates, that they may be great and the Heads of a great party, counte- nance and patronize all kind of abominable Sectaries ; not caring what becomes of Religion,and who proprieties falfly, fo they may beare rule by that meanes. Fourthly, Speaking of turning his cheek to the fmiter* hee faith with Jertwy, though he neither borrowesnor lends,&c.yet this may b^ his ponion: Now I wonder he can iayfb, when as his hand hath been againft every man, mcdling with all forts of men, a Polu-pragmaticall , mediing in the Armies with many, abufingthe Common Counceli and the City of Loud$n> the Af- fembiy, the Reformed 'Churches, our Brethren of the City of London eould not do lefle, and have but done their duty; the Reformed Err ours and Proceedings ' of the Sectaries. 141 Reformed Churches, Scothnd, the body of this Kingdome, and all who are not Independents and fndependentifh, doe hear wit- neiTeofthefauhfulndleof this City to the caufe of God and the Parliament; ard this Remonftrance was Co farre from being a matter of rneer will (as Matter "Peters words import ) that I am of the mind, and I bthtsc not alone in it, that it will nsver be well with England^ till the City of London, the Miniftry of the Kingdome, and all the Counties as one man make a plainer Re* monihance; in a more particular way and mariner, of all the growing mifchkfs and abominations in Church and Common- wealth, defiring a fpeedy and efftftuall redrefle of them. And as for bis hincing the cauie of the increafe of the plague to come from the City Remonftrance, or want of the Cities full confenc to a match with the Parliament-, I dare boldly fay of him, in io frying, He is a falfe Prophet, a dreamer of dreams, fpeaking the vifions of his own heart, and declaring falfe burdens ; and do offer from the word of God to make it good againft Matter Pe- ters y that if the City of London would oftner RemonOrate and Petition in this kind, and life the power they have by their Char- ter and the Lawes in force, to punim Heredcks and Sectaries, and difturb their meetings, the plague would iooner be removed from them. Sixthly, That alio is a falfe and untrue Aflertion, That the de- *fignofthe Army is onely to obey their Mafters the Parliament; € the fiigh:ifig the Army is their money,triumphanc chariots would * have broke our necks, understood in Matter Peters fenfe, viz. of that part of t he Army the Sectaries ; for if it were Co as he (peaks', what means the bleating of the fheep, and the lowing of the oxen that I and many others hear >■ If their only defign be to obey therr Mafters the Parliament, whats the reafbn they break, contemns lb: ir Ordinances, viz. thacagainft mens preaching not ordained MinHters, that for the better obfcrving of the Monethly Fail, thofe for the ' fetling of Presbyteriall Government? 8cc, What means thofe fpeecht s of fome of them, If they knew the Countries mind, as well as the Countries might know 'theirs , they would have •another kind of Reformation then the Parliament is about ; that they have not (b long f ouv h: for liberty and now to be enflaved • with many fuch like. And if ih~ (lighting of the Army is their T 3 money-, I^.ct A New and 'further Vifcovery if the raionev ?an,d c^usa^bmc chances would have broke thejr necks, cerc^nL^ they Nye then tud ikde p^y, atxlthelr necks would have been Urokav long before now ; far never was Arnr/ better pro* g-jr vided for Jjh'cejh&ik waires, wist} moneys, recruits, aU kind of things -% and rrun^ parcicular raen3 fpeciail petfo'iYs 'of triSc party, which Rafter P^Urs counts the Army, have beea'-well rewarded over and above pay,&;cv And for triumphant chariot?, there have been men on purpole employed to provide them ttiump'ianc cha- riots weekly a to carry them throughout the Kingdom , and for- raign parkin the weekly newesbcoks^ wherein they have been lifted up to heaven in praties 3 reports of vi&orie?, other me«s valiant afts attributed to them, and they upon all ovcc^Sons plea- ded for,excu(edyand fairglofles put upon thefouleft a&ipfts @f any Ccranunders and Souldiers cf that pany $ (6 chat a mm would wonder Matter Peters (houldwrfce thus, but that he vvlU fay any thing, if it be for the Se&aries j and they who know $&$ nian and his manner, whu ftorksljeha$h told in Pulpits oi bat* tells that he hath been in3 and how many victories have been U- chieved, will never mat veil a£ what he writes here. Seventhly >For that Mailer Peters fpeaks ot Matter forks and A* meJF^ofthat conftant fweetneffe and inccniragement in the oae towards him, and of the fpeeches of the other to him ev^n to his death3 I much doubt of the truth of them., and that upon tfaefe t rounds : However Mailer Forbes might be great \?Ufy himbefore e declared himfelf for Independency and toe Churdvway, yet I have been told from a godly undemanding, Matter who Uved many years in Holland, and ihit m the time ipf Matter Peters being there, both before he was looked upon as an Independeitt , a»nil afterwards , viz, all the time till he m$t to New- England t thai: when Matter Forks by the power of the Biihops faction wss put by his place of Mlnifter to the Merchant Adventurers at Rot.&- dam, he would have received the Lords Supper at Mailer Peters Church (Maiter Peters Independency or Church-way not being fo vifible then) but Matter Peters offering to put upon him or re- quiring feme of his Church-way devices, fpake fome thing to Maiter Forbes of things inihat kind, which Matter Fortes recen- ted with fo much indignation and ftorn, (" knowing what love and refpeft he had fiiawn to Matter Peters, and what experience Mafter ««■■ " '■ ■ , ' Errors & &bgU% the firft Book, Chap. 39. irthcUfflbm having fpoken0rapariicu!ar C! urch.he comes tti with thisCau- &syKod.l*"i tionor Provifo, NQrwithir^naing particular Churcnes, a^their/^ ^y^.- communion requires, cfcer!i§ht f nature, the equity of rules and diomutuo k- ' examples of Scrip- ure teach, mav, and aUo often ought to enter tmur quan~- into a mutual! confederation and affbeiation among themfelves %^c9mm^ in Claffis and Synods, shar they may ufe the common confent and iklr^fenm \ help, as much as conveniently can be, efpeciall f in all thofe things qujfant ma- \vh;ch are of greaxer moment. I find alfo in Amtfm his Works jerk moment}. many pa'Tages againft other Principles of the Independent way, * Amcf.Iib.4^ as for the life of * SufpenfionTrom the Lords S upper to goebefore de C°nkien£ Txeomiminicatiori, which h deoyedby the Indepeidemsj with^***11 - ' roany 144 A ^€w ari" further Dtjcoiery of the many others. Now the wrkings of men are more to be regarded and beleevd, then the words, of fuch a man as Maftlr- Peters, efpz- ciaUyhrfavour, of bis own caufe. Secondly, For Doctor 4 net leaving his PfoferI>r&Yip in Frizlandto live w uh Matter Peters at lK.onrd.im, I will not deny that , but I doe deny that it was be- ;\ caufeofhis Churches Independency $ it was upon other realbns, and of this I can give the Reader ih me good account : (md I mutt acknowledge it as a providence of God, that I many years agoe by reafon of my intimate acquaintance with the emioenteft and godlieiV men of thofe times, and with the prime of ihofe who are now turned Independents, did hear and know many things of all forrs of godly men, both at home and abroad, in HuUmd, Eng- land) New-England > which I then little thought I mould ever have had any u(e of, but fince have been, and are of great ufe iti anfwering Independents, when they come and teli the world fto- jies of themfelves,which men know not how to difprove them:) Doctor Ames (as I have been told from grave godly Minifters) for many years before he died was weary of his place in Frizland3ar\d would fain have had (bme place in England-, he moved and pro- pounded ictofome, that if he could but have any living or place to preach in (though in a remote Village ) without ufing the Ceremonies and being put upon (Iibfcription, he would take it, for he had a mind to give himfeif co preaching, and to enjoy the ibciety of English Chrifuans and Minifters, and was weary be- caufeofthatdulnefleani different way, in regard of the pracU;a!l power of godlineue he found among thofe be lived with there, and the godly Snglijb, whom he in the former part of his life had been acquainted with 5 and therefore divers years before there wag any thought or fpeech of Independent Churches or this way5he moved for a place in England, and would faine have left his Pro- feflbrftiip in Fnzeland : And lam ready to depofe I have been told this by one or more gcdiy Minifters of great note. Tis fufliciently known I ivas well acquainted with Dcftor Preficn, Do&or Sib*, MafterRw/j Doctor Frepons Tutor, Doctor Taj' hr, Doctor St aught on> &c. and from feme of thefe I had it 5 and I remember I have been in company with Doctor Ames, at Doctor Prefims lodging, who after the death ot King James, coming to England, and to Cambridge, I heard him preach there, an Err ours and Proceedings of the Se&mes. 145 and well remember the Sermon' and Text, Jade, verf. 20,21. but times in Englmd growing worie and work , there being no hops for fuch a mm as he here, being weary of his Profcffbrfoip in F,iz!and} was willing to be Mfniiler of an Eaglifh Church in Hi- hndfince he could not obtain it tajBngUnd\ and I make no queiti- on, if Doctor Ames could have been allured of a comfor cable t-Uce for people and maintenance in England, without Ceremonies and Subscription, he would have taken a Parilh Church in Eogan'd, before he would hive gone to Matter Peters at Koterdam^ but if upon his coming to Row dm there was any fuch change fas Via- fter Peters fpeakscf ) that he was really turned to be an I ndt pru- dent, and of the Church-way, and would have carried on that way \\ ith Mafter Peters , it was the mercy of God to him to raks him away juft upon his removing, and new coming (o Roterdarv, before he had appeared aauail engaged in that way , or writ- ten for it 5 becauie his name and authority, bring a learned man, might have fwayed (he more with many.; and we fee Mafter Peters makes ufe of his name to credit that caufe thirteen years after,not- wkhltanding that he died upon the borders and entrance into it, before any notice was ever taken by the Reformed Churches of any fuch. thing; though I much qticftion whether or no in his latter time there was any fuch change as Matter Peters fpeaks of. Eighthly, Mailer Ptfat writes many things hypocritically, which he and his party neither practices, nor intends ; buc afnake lies under the green grade* as that of a doer open for theGofpel, and of Itinerary Miniilers .in a County three or foure, which is for no other end buc to leaven the whole Kingdome wth Indepen- dency, and to fore-Hall Presbytery from being fetled; as that of alraoft lofi liberty, the Englifh being ruled by love, as cautions about a new flivery, and willies of all marks of ilavery to be taken off, when as 'tis evident he and his party mean by liberty,a free- dome to hold what they will, and to be under no Church-Go- vernment 5 and that he and his party are the greateft means in all places for keeping up all thofe things, which the people have u led to account marks of flivery, and againft Englijb liberty; as that of walking plainly in your Counceils * God preferveth the fimple , as fpeaking againft Arcans Imperii , deep-fee couniells of men;&c, whereas he and his party have and dee praeYife quite. .V -contrary, 1 46 A New and further Dffcovery cf the cjntrary,having deep-fee counfells, ufing all Maehivillian tricks to undermine men, looking one way and rowing another ; which is (b evident that all men {peak of ic, and whereof I have given in my former Books many i nuances, under that head of the pra&i* ces or cue Sectaries. Epipbanim refembles Hereticks to Moulsj, wh doe all their mifchief by working under ground, but if once they be above ground they are weak and contemptible creatures • juit fuch are our Independents and Se&aries, they have done all, and (till doe by their under-hand working, but if they would play above board, fpeak plainly what they would have, and not hide themfelves, we mould quickly take them all. Many other particulars I might obferve in the manner and way of carrying on his defigns, (ecretly laid down in thefe Anfwers, as alio I had thought to have made fome Animadverfions and Obferva- tions upon his Sermon preached at Chnfl-Church^ and another * Mr vtttvs *Prm[ec* pamphlet of his , but becaufe I have enlarged already5 meflagefrom anc* Perceive I mall exceed the number of meets I at firft inten- se Thomas ded when I fell upon writing this Third Part otGangranj, there- Fairfax* fore I (hall forbeare any more of this kind for prefent, I have given the Reader (brae account of Matter Peters in his Writing, • Preaching, and Difcourfesj it remains I (hould fpeak of him in his Aftings, what hand he hath had in promoting (everall Peti- tions in City and Country , in favour of the Sectaries ; as that Anti-Petition ("commonly fo called) framed prefently after the City Remonftrance, which was carried up and down the City by his man, to get hands to it ; what meetings he hath been at (everall times, at feverall places, as at the Nags bead, as inCo/e- mati'flreett&c. what Countries and places he hath ridden to, to get Burgefles for Parliament 5 what perfons of worth hee hath complained of to fome in Authority , whereby they have been fent for, and taken off their irnployment in fuch places f the thing aimed at in it) and yet the things never proved , but the quite contrary proved •, what great fummes of money ,with other gifts, befides two hundred pounds pet annum for him and his heires, lawfully begotten , which hee by his ftirring and a&ing hath obtained ; but I (hall fpeake no more of hira now , but re- ferve what I have further to fey, unto a Fourth Part of Gan- m There Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 147 There is one Matter Feakf an Independent named in pare Si, of this Book, ofwhombecaufewhen I writ that fheetlhad not myfullprofe of particulars asldefired, IpafTed him over lightly till another time, but having fince received full and particular in- formation of him, I think it good to.pay my debt of promife fooner then I made account of : This Mafteri-V^ within this twelvemonths was Preacher in London, and hath preached many ftrange and odd things at Peters in (fornhill, belides Wool-Qhnrch^ and other places, as for reparation from our AfTemblies, expref- fing many heterodox things about mixed Communion at the Lords Supper, againft maintenance of Minifters by Tythes; and in Sermons and Prayers hath had many Mings at the Arfembly; but now is Preacher in the Town of Hartford (the (hire Town) and in the greateft Parifh and Church of that Town, viz. All-Saints; being put into a Sequeftrated Living, by the power of fome of the Independent partie in that Town, without the approbation of the AfTembly, having never been with the AfTembly, according to the Order of the Konour.Houfe of Commons, nor with the Com- mittee of Plundred Minifters neither, (aslbeieeve) who ufe to fend thofe that come to them for Sequeftrated Livings to the Affembly, before they grant them power and intereft in fuch pla- ces. As for his carriage at Hartfordjxherc he hath preached fince laft f anttary, it hath been as followes. His preaching and pray- ing ihewes him no friend to the Aftembly nor to the Directory; he hath never ufed the Lords Prayer fince he came thither, but hath preached againft the ufe of it as a prayer. JTis obferved of him by underftanding men his Auditors, that they never heard him appoint or ling a Pfalme, he reades but one Chapter or a peece of a Chapter ; he hath not baptized any (ince his coming. One of the Committee, ajuftice of Peace, put up fome Articles againft him at the AiTizes at Hartford, to both Judges then on the Bench; Thefirft was thisThat Chrift would deftroy not only unlawful! Government, but law full Government, not only the abufe,but the ufe of it ; and as he had begun to deftroy it in England, fo would he by railing combuftions in the bowells of France and Spaine; and that he would deftroy Arlftocracy in Holland, for Tolerating Arminianifme : When he denyed the words, one being pment, and asked, affirmed him to have preached thus; and there are V 2 found ' 148 -A Nim- and further Discovery of the fo re others, underftanding men and of good worth will teftifie the fame. Then Matter Feake explained himfelf before the Judges, that there was in Monarchic and ^Ariftocracy an enmity againft Chrift, which he would deftroy ; and as he was fpeaking fome turbulent fellowes and Sectaries, clambred up by the Bench, and cryed out my Lord,my Lord,Mr /V.doth it in malice,we will.main- taineour Minifter with our bloud ; whereupon the Judge threw away the paper, and faid he would heare no more of it, though he hiid before commanded Matter Eldred, to read openly all thofe Heterodoxies. The Lords day following, Matter Feake in the Pulpit endeavored to anfwer all the Articles put up againft him to the Judges, in a great Auditory. Many other things I have heard of him fincehis coming to Hartford] but what I herefet down of him, befides the relation I have had by word of mouth of perfons of worth, 'tis given me underhand in writing, and that with this feale fet to it,what I have here written I will juftifle, and. much more when I am called to it. There is one Richard Overton a defperate SecTaty, one of Lil~ burnes Breed and followers, who hath printed many fcandalous. things againft the Houfe of. Peers, and notice being given of him^ there was an Order granted for the taking of him, and fearing of his Prctfqa Preffe that had printed many wicked Pamphlets, that have come out of late, againft the King, the Lords, the Presby te- riallGovernment,the City,and for a Toleration, and Lioerty, de- ttruclive to all Religion, Lawes and Government, yea overthrow- ing by the principles laid down in them, the*power of the Houfe *^i "n^the of Com^ons, whilft they feeme to cryupandinveft that Houfe ^rft .fliect of w*tn tne Monopoly of all the power of the Kingdome) who be- this Gangra- ing apprehended by the Meffengers fent out for him, was brought. aw, and in before a Committee ofthe Houfe of Lords, where he refilled to fZne -^T amrwer any quefticns, and carried himfelf with a great deale o£ following this. contempt and fcorne3both in words and. gefture;and after this be- ing brought before the Houfe of Lords,, he refufed to anfwer any, queftions propounded by the Speaker as in the name ofthe Houfea and to that queftion, whether he were a Printer or no, hee would not anfwer, but told them he was refolved not to make aniwer to any interrogatories that flbould infringe his propertie, right or freedomcin particular, ortherighcs?freedomes? and properties: Efroxrs and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 149 i* ii'"' 1 -■ — ■ ■ ■ ■ of the Nation in generall .- Befides he gave faucie and pcremtory words to the Houfe of Lords ; and appealed from the Houfe of Lords to the Houfe of Commons; whereupon the Lords com- mitted him to Newgate, as he moft/uftlydeferved : Now fince his commitment to Newgate, there are fome wicked railing Pamphlets come out in his name, and fold openly ; Pamphlets venting a company of curfed principles, both againft Religion and civill Government, tending to nothing elfe but the overthrow of thefundamentall conftitutionofthisKingdome, in King, Lords, and Commons, andfetting up the body of the common people, as the.Soveraigne Lord and King ; denying King and Lords any power, and the Houfe of Commons any further then the peoples Deputies,and at the pleafure of and will of the people,and to the * ruine of Religion, ;by pleading againft the Ordinance for punifli- ing lilafphemies and Herefies. The firft Book -of this Overt ons, is call'd A defence againft all Arbitrary Vfurpations of the Houfe of 'Lords, and a Relation of their unjuft and barbarous proceedings againft ' that worthy Qommoner ({tiling himfelffoj The fecondis, An ssfrrow againft all Tyrants and Tyranny, fbotfrom the prifon of Newgate-, into the Prerogative Bowels of the Arbytrary Houfe of Lords, by Richard Overton Prerogative dArcher to the zArbi- trary Houfe of Lords. The third is, A "petition and Appeale to the Houfe of Commons, calling them the Hi ah and mighty States, the mo ft Soveraigne Houfe, and himfelf their- leige ^Petitioner : In all' which he moft audacioufly and unfufferably abufes the Heufeof Lords, charging them with Tyranny, ufurpation, invading the Li- berties of the people, denying them all legislative power, defiring due reparations againft them, fcoffing and fcorning them and their power, defcantingupon by way of confutation the Order of the Houfe of Lords for his commitment ; and ftirring up tire Houfe of Commons, and all the people, againft the Houfe of Lords, to free the people from their oppreflions, tyrannies, e$°c* I will give the Reader atafte of this Anabaptifticallfpirit,by tran- fcribingafew parages out oi thefe wicked and.curfed Pamphlets, In page 5. ofhis defiance againft the Lords, he fpeaks to Engl-ifl*. men thus. ' Ye in fpeciall be encouraged againft alloppoiition * and incroachment of Kings, Lords, or others, upon the Houfe of 'Commons, their rights &id properties derived from the peopki s And., xjo A New and further Difcovery tf the c And acknowledg none other to be the fupreame Court of Judi- cature of this Land, but the Houfe of Commons; andinthisgal- ' lant refolation live and dye, and acquit your felves like men ? 'For mypartlle tread upon the hotteft coalesoffireandven- ' geance that, that parcell of meiyntituled the Hoiafe of Lords,can * blow upon me for it. Page 15. 17. He makes the Lords to be fubordinate and fubjecl to the Commons,^ great Reprefentors of the Land; and calls the Knights and BurgefTes Aflembled the up- per Houfe, zn&the fudges of the Houfe of Peers as well as his. Page 15/.20. fpeaking of the power of the Com mons, hath thefe words; c Therefore thefe Lords being none of the peoples Vice- gerents, Deputies or Reprefentors, cannot legally paffe upon a- * ny of the Reprefented,to try,fentence,fine, or imprifon ; but fuch 'their aclions(exceeding the foveraigne compa{Te)muft needs be il- clegall,and Antimagiftraticali;and therefore as by that foveraigne f power confer'd from the people upon the Houfe of Commons, 'I made my appeales to the faid Houfe,refu(ing altogether to fub- • € mit unto that usurpation of the Lotds over the peoples proper- ties,^. In the (dime page fpeaking of the Houfe of Lords, in a fcofftng rnanner/faith, < Their Lordlliips might do well to fend c me to Doctor Baflwicks School of complements, that I might 'have a little more venerable Courtfhip againft the next time I ' appeale in their prefence. In page 17. 18. relating how the whole Houfe of Lords derided him, upon his refuting to anfwer the queftions of the fpeaker of the Right Honourable Houfe of Peers , he fets down that he repiyed to them ; s Gentlemen it 'doth not become you thus to deride me that am a prifoner at * your Barre ; And thereupon fpeakes of the Houfe of Lords, « fuch * carriage, fuch Court ; for indeed Comedies, Tragedies, Masks c and Playes, are farre more fit, for fuch idle kind of men In page 6. Overton fpeaking of the Houfe of Lords, writes thus; 4 And thefe are further to let them know, that I bid defiance to c their injuftice, ufurpation and tyranny,and fcorne even the left * connivance, glimpfe, jot, or tittle of their favour. Let them do c as much againft me by the rule of Equity,Reafon and Juftice, for c my teftimony and proteftation againft them in this thing, as pof- * (Ibly they can, and I {hall be content and reft. In this Arrow a - gainft all Tyrants, written (asitfeems) tofome Member of the Houfe ■» Errors and Proceedings of the SecJaries. I j x ' Houfe of Commons j page 6, he writes thus3 Sir, Wedefire cyour help for your own fakes, as well as ours, cbeifly for there- •movalloftwomoftim'ufTtrable evills daily encroacrrng and in- c creating upon us, portending and threaming int vi table deft ru& i- the encroachments and usurpations ofthe Houfe of Lords, c over the Commons liberties and freedomes, together with the 'barbarous, inhumane, blood thirftie defires and endeavours of 'the Presbyterian Clergy, O the defperate wickednefle of this man, and ibme other Settmes .' who have writ fuch like paffa* gesagainfttheLords,andthe Miniftcrs,ani that for no other eau/e5 asappearesby this Pamphlet and divers others (chemfelves being witnefles) but becaufe the Lords queftioning fome men for print- ing the mod abominable, (edicious, curfed libells,againft all Roy- all Authority, and the fundamentall Lawes and Government of fchisKingdome, thateverin any age were publidied, andtheyin the moft unparralleid manner, f of which I beleeve no prefia'ents can bee (hewn in any Chronicles or hiftories of this Kingdome) carrying themfelves contemptuoufly and fcorn fully, they commit- ted them to prifbn ; and becaufe an Ordinance to puniih damna- ble Blafphemiesamd Herefies hath been brought into the Houfe of Commons, by two worthy Members, and that by the procure- ment ofthe Clergie (as the Pamphlet faith.) Now for what the Lords have done againft lAlbume% Overton, Larner, and fachfel- lowe?, in labouring to fuppreflfe fuch feditious PrefTes, in ; unifih- ing them ; as alfo in their fpeedy admitting into their Houfe, and thanktull acceptance of the Remonft ranees and Petitions ofthe City of London, County of Lancafbire, &c. And for what Matter T*tf,and Matter Bacon have done in prefenting fuch an Ordinance againft Blafphemies and Herefies , they are highly accounted of by all the godly and Orthodox Minifters and people in City and Country,and their names will be famous in all generations ; when the names of LilbwrmfivemnfiLcyc* and of all their great Patrons, whether in the Army 3or out ofthe Army, will be a by- word and a curfe, and canonized in the Kaleniero* fuch Saints, &$Jobno£ Ley den } Thomas Muncety KnipperdoBingy Sec. In page io. of this poyfoned Arrow, Overton writes thus • c Why therefore mould * you ofthe Reprefentative body fit ftilljand fuffer thefe Lords to devoure 152 d New and further Difcoverj of the « devoure both us and our Lawes > Be awakened, arife and conii- cAqx their op pre (lions and encroachments, and flop their Lord- c (Lips in their ambitious career, for they doe not ceale only here, * but they foare higher and higher, and now they .are become Ar- * rogators to themfeives.of the natuiali Soveraignty the Repre/en- c ted have convayed.and ifiued co their proper Reprefenrors, even * challenge to tbemfelves ihe tide of the fuprenieft Court of * Judicature in the Land, as was claimed byihe Lord Hottnfden < when I was before them • which challenge of his was a moil H- * legally Anti- Parliamentary, audacious prefumpiion>&c. Behold, Reader, this wicked Sectary labours to fet the Houle of Commons againft the Houfe of Lords, to make divihon between them : All the hopes of thefe fbnnes of diviiion lie in breaches, which they foment all kind of wayes, and in all kind of things wherein there is union 5 as between the Houfes, the Scott and die Parliament, the Parliament and the City, the Parliament and the Miniflry of the Kingdom : They have no hopes but in war?, fid ing in trou- bled waters,& keeping all things in confufion,& from being (hied. In fag.n, 12, hee fpeaks thus, « Therefore the (bveraign power c extending no further then from the Reprefented to the Rcprefcn- 1 tors, all this kind of foveraignty challenged by any, whether of t King, Lords, or others, is usurpation, illegitimate and illegall, *and none of thekingdomes or peoples, neither are the people * thereto oblieged : Thus, Sir, feeing the Soveraign or Leg* flative c power is only from the Represented to the Reprefentors , and t cannot poffibly further extend, the power of the King cannot 'be Legislative, but only Executive, and he can communicate no 'more then he hath himielfe 5 and the Soveraign power not being < inherent in him,it cannot be convayed by, or derived from him to eany : (o that his meet Prerogative creatures cannot have that * which their lord and creator never hath had,or can have, namely * the Legiflative power. Many other ftrange paflages there are, both in his Pamphlets, and Petition and Appeale , made up of in- tolerable Arrogancy, Impudency, and Anarchy, point blanck a- gainft the Fundamental! conftitution of the Government of this Kingdom 5 but by thefe the Reader may judge of the whole., ex mgue Uomm 5 and Co I leave him to the juftice of the Houfe of Lords. There _ Errors and f weeding* of the Sectaries. 153 There is-one JobnLilbarn an Arch-Se&ary, the great darling of the Sectaries, highly extolled and magnified by them io many Pamphlets; calledj The Defender of the Faith , A Peafle in a Dung-hill, Than Worthy Sufferer for his Countries Liberty ; this Worthy man, (a precious Jewell indeedj of whom I had thought to have given a full Relation in this Book 5 and to have laid him open in all his colours, by following him from place to place, and fhewing how time after time he hath behaved himfelf fince he came out of his Apprenticeship, as by declaring what fee him Hrfi on work to print Books againft the Bifhops , how hee carried himfeife in. the Fleet whilft he was Prifoner there , how fince this Parliament both before the warres begun and fince the warres, how whilft hee was Prifoner at Oxford, how in the Earle of Mwcbefters Army, how in the City at many meetings about Petitions fince he left the warres , how before the Commit- tee of Examinations, how* the firft time he was in Newgate by or- der of the Houfe of Commons, how hee behaved himielfe before the Houfe of Lords, and how the fecond time of his irnprifonment in Newgate, and how fince his laft commitment to theTower ; but becaufe this Narration alone will take up (bme meets, there being many remarkable things to be written of him , of his infolenc loofe ungodly practices,, and of his Anarchicall Principles., de- finitive to all Civill Government whatsoever, and I have already filled up that number of (heetsl at firft intended when I refolved to write this Third Pare, (though I have many things yet to put m this Third Part) therefore I muft deferre it till a Fourch Part3an;l mall then by the help of God doe it Co largely and fully, that I (hall make his folly and wickednefie known to all men, and vindi- cate the honour and power of che Houfe of Peers from his, and all the Sectaries wicked Libeils • fisewing the weaknefie of thofe Prin- ciples, That all power in Government is founded upon the im- mediate free election of all thofe that are to be Governed, And 03 of a necedity that all who are to'be fubjeft and ob y muit b • prefenced, And that all who have power in Government malv-be Reprefenters ; which I mall doe for the \ indication of the yuii Le- gal! power or the King; the Houfe of Lords, yea and of the Com- •rnons • undertaking to make it good, that according to the Seeta« rian Principles now vented in fo many Bu>ks daily, and fib roach X coun» 1 54 A New and further Difcovery of the countenanced by too many,the power and priviledgc of the Houfe of Commons would be over thro wne and cut (hort, as well as the Kings and Lords : Formftance, (to fay nothing of that, that the Commons power is not only by being chofen by thefeverall Coun- ties and Towne?,biu by the vertue of Writs under the Great Seal, and by vertue of Lawes and Rules according to which the Overall Electors muft goe,or elfe their Elections give them no power at all;) If this Principle were true, theHoute of Commons fhould have no power over me, nor over many thoufands more in the Kingdome, and we might all fay the fame things to the Boufe of Commons, which Ulbwne, Overton, and all the Sectaries fay to the Honfe of Lordsj for we never chofe thera, had no voyces in their Elections, they are not our chofen ones , as the Sectaries fay of the Lords- I and many Miniflers of the Kingdome, with hun- dred thoufands of people who have not fo much free lander an- num, are excluded from election of Knights of the Shires, and not being free-men of Towns, have no voyces in choyce of Burgefles, and fo may refufe fubje&ipn to their Orders, reM their Officers who come with their Warrants, and refufe to live by the Lawes they make , as not being chofen by us, who no queftion are the greateft number of perfbns in the Kingdom $ (I beleeve there are more men of years of undemanding without fo much free lander annum, then there are thofe who have fo much :) Befides, if this Principle were true, That all fubjection and obedience to per- sons and their Lawes ftood by vercue of electing them , then be- fides ail non-free-lulders exempted from the Jurifdiction of the Houfe of Commons, all women at once were exempt from being under Government , and all youths who were under age at the beginning of this Parliament fix years ago (though now men) and had no voyces in the choyce of Parliament men$ yea, if this Par- liament fit many years longer, all thofe who were boyes and chil- dren, when they come to years of understanding muff be exempt too.as having had no voyces in election-, nay yet further, fo weak a Principle this i?, upon which the Sectaries would overthrow all the power of the King and Lords , and give all power to the Commons , that if it were true, none were bound to any obe- dience of thofe Knights and Burgefles whom they chofe not, but oppofed with all their might,fb that by this rule all Free-holders in Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 155 in each County who diflented from him that was chofen , mould not fubmic to that man , but fet him up whom they have chofen ; and though there be four hundred Members in the Com. Houfe, yet they who have voyces in chufing,and they whofe voyces carry ic for (uch a man, becaufe they chufe but one or two, ptz, in that County where they live and have eftates, therefore they mould be fubjed only to the determinations of thofe two men; but for all the reft , they chufe them no more then they do the Houfe of Lords: And yet further, if this Principle were good, that fub- jeftion and obedience is due from none, and to none, but thofe who are chofen and reprefent , all ft rangers who come into or live for a time in a Kingdome , when fent for upon fufpitions or reall crimes, may anfwer the Houfe of Commons, What have they to do with them, they chofe them not, they gave them no power over them , 1 they are not their Reprefentors : And laft of all, upon this Principle, all we who are born within this fifty, fixty, or (eventy years, may refufe obedience and fub- jeftion to all the Lawes made by Parliaments before we were born,orbyiuch Parliaments whereof we chofe not the Members; and when men clip money, and counterfeit coy n, cr men (teal horfes, and are fent for by juftices,and brought to the Bars, they may with as much reafon.and more appeal from thofe Courts of Juftice, becaufe they never chofe thofe men that made fuch Lawes, nor ever contented to them, asLz/Ww, Overton^ Larner^&c. did from the Lords, to the prefent Houfe of Commons,their Pve- prefentors, their chofen ones,&c. and I dare undertake to fhew, that all thofe feeming Arguments and rambling Difcourfes in 0- wrtms and hilbutms Books, have as much ftrength for juftifying all Delinquents appeals from thofe Lawes , made (b many years agoe, and Judges going according to them, as for their declining the Houfe of Lords. Many other inftances I could give of thofe who have by the Lawes of England, and other Kingdomes, power of Government, and that moft juftiy , without any immediate election of the people, and perfons to be governed by them* io that we mult look for fome other foundations and grounds of giving one man,ormore, power in Government jover all befides this immediate ElecYion,and Reprefentation, which will be found firm and ftrong , and which indeed give the force to Ele&ion, X 2 and 1 56 A New and further Difcovery of the and which in fever all cafes, witliGtu any immediate EiecVion of the prefent perfons to be governed, binds them before God and men to obedience and fubje&ion in all lawfull things, and according to the Lawes ; but I mult deferrre the giving of more Inftancesa- bout Election, with the Reafons thereof* and of laying downs the juft grounds of lawfuli Authority and Power of one man, or many , and of one and many , without any immediate Election either of a part, or of the whole prefent people , till the Fourth Part ofGangrmx ; only I will adde two things, F5rft,to (hew the Witnefies do not agree , but the great Leaders of the Sectaries diiler among themfeives in this poinr, yea the fame men, asLi/- frurn^nd the Authors of tho(e Pamphtet?yEtsgiar.df Birth-right ^&a Secondly, propound fome Queres to Lilbume, Overton, Lamer, and the reft of that generation to confider of in the mean time. For the firft, However that .Lilbvrne, Bvertori&M the Sectaries ufe the Houfe of Lords thus, denying them -power over CommonerSjand a Legiflative power , with an Intereii in faving the Kingdome, and put all the whole Supreme power upon the Commons, making the Houfe of Lords (land for a Cypher, becaufe not cho» (en by the common people as the Knights and Burgefles, yet till within this year and an half, they in writings and actions decla- red the contrary, viz. before the recruit of the Houfe of Com- mons with new Members, and the fuccefle of the new Model!, as * Vid. A Let- ig evident by many * Pamphlets written before, wherein they abu- Ecreiitit. Enp £d ^ Houfe of Commons, and particular Members, crying out ble.flavm. a ofthem for making the free fubjefts flaves , and for ruling irt ar* The Copy of arbitrary way, as much as they do now of the Hqufe of Lords 5 yea- a Letter from the Lords are pleaded for and cryed up above the Houfe of Gom- licvtcn.Col. mon$i fov their jultiee, and their readinefle to hear thegrievancs MenT t0a of the M>jea*3 and their power pleaded for, and that by Lit- A Pamphlet burm himfelf,/^g. 74,75. of his Pamphlet, call'd lnnocency and* call'd,^ Que- Truth jvftified, where pleading ia have his bufinefle of his fen- fiion and an tence*in Star-Chamber to be t ranfmitted up to the Lords from the iitens j/z- Houfe °^ Conimons» bv way of Anfwer to Qb je&ions againft it, vacencTand De natn ^ie^ words, If I be tranfmitud up to rthe Lords , I confident- Truib jupfied. ty foleeve I pall, get forward, out of the former experiences of thai Ju~ Englanis fiice that 1 have found there « and I will in fiance two particulars, firft Birtbjiehti mym Iwmfrtfonet in tk Ehtf&ct bu* that's too Jpog for a*e to Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. !j7 writedown, and I fhall rather refcrre the Reader to the Book* pag.74. Secondly, May 4. 1^41. the King accufed me of high Treafon, and before the Lords Bane was 1 brought for my life, where although one Litleton fervant to the Prince/wore point blanch^ againfl tne% yet had J free liberty to fpsa^ for myfelfe in the open Houfe , md upon my defire that Mafler Andrewes alfo might dec/are upon his Oath what he \new about my bufineffe, it was done9 and kt* Oath being ah* foluteiy contradictory to Mafier Litletons, / was both freed from L'ide* tons malice y and the Kings accufatzon , at the Bam of the whole Houfe : and fir my part 1 am refolved to fpea\ well of thofe that hay* done mejuflicet and not to doubt they will deny it mey tiU fitch time as by experience I find they dot it* And inpag. 56. of Lifetimes Inno« cency and Truth juiufied, he writes thus, Agrine I fay, aCom^ mittee of the Houfe of Commons is not the whole Parliament , no net the while Houfe of Commons it fife, accordingto their owne-Principks • and therefore in my judgement , they., are not to. a£? contrary to a known. and received Law , and therefore cannot juflly imprifon any man em- ir ary thereunto ^neither by a Committee of theirs ^nor by the whole Houfe of. Commons itfelfthey being not according to their own Principles the rt4:ok Parliament ^hut apart of.it, and therefore that wbichii eflablifhsdby the whole {as a Law u by ^s Eflttes^anlan Ordinance by z.Eftates) cannot juflly be contradiUedby aparttnamelj) the H.ofCom,but one Eflateymuch. Up by one of their Committees , which is but a branch of that one Eflate • and therefore for, my pari I. judge a Law to be a Law untill it be made* voide by all the three Eftates that made it, or at leaft by the two Eflates> joyntly> that tahgs vpon them to makg Ordinances jn this time ofnecefm jrtyytomahg voiie a Law at prefent, &c. And therefore lam abjolute- ly of this minde thai neither a Committee of the Houfe of Commons 5> nor the whole Houfe of Commons together 9 can juflly. imprifon me, or any ether contrary to law9 againfi which at.prefent there is not fome Ordi- nance made both by them^andthe Peers ^pubUJee at pnfnt to overthrow* it. But 1 have feverall times been imprifoned both bj> Committees^ and by vote oj the Houfe of Commons itfilf contrary to a kpown Lzm. made this prefent Parliament by themfelvcs^ againfl which there is at prefent no Ordinance publifhzd and declared by them and the Peers yfox the cognizance ; Ergo, I fay they are tyed in j 4 flic e according to the tenor of this Law to give mereparations againfl thofe perfons that wers fbeifi in flrmnms^ either in Committee^ or in the Houfe ofCommont Jf 3 '-" 3&>' ip$ ijS A New and further Djfceveryof tbt itfilfto vote and tak£ away my liberty from me> contrary to this Law* and for my part I do accordingly txpefll my reparations for my late cjufetejje mokjlations and tmprifbnmmts* And as Lilbmne in thefe paflages gives the Houfe of Lords an e- quail legifiative power with the Commons, making them one of ^ rhe three Eftaces [as well as the Commons,and cxprefly faith, c the * Commons are but a part of the Parliament^and that the Com- c mons cannot mike void a Law, unlefle it be by the two Eftates * joyntly, viz. the Lords and Commons (all which are contrary to the many wicked Pamphlets printed in this year, 1646. by which the Reader may obferve what difference there is between the fame Sectaries in the year 164.5. an^ tae year ^6^6. fuch new light hath the fuccefle of the new Model), and the recruit of the Houfe of Commons brought to the Sectaries) fb Lilbume and the Sectaries by many anions of theirs have owned and eftabliflied the power of the Honfe of Lords, as well as of the Commons, as in their feverall Petitions to the Lords Houfe as well as Com- monsjfor abolilhing Epifcopacy; and in feverall other particulars, which clearly pro ves the legiflative power of the Lords as well as Commons ; for is not that a part of legiflative power to repeale Former Lawes5Statutes,as wel as to make new>and if the Lords had not a power over Commoners, & that of Judicature, why was LtU hurm (o earneft with the Houfe of Commons, and in print expre£ fes to the great and high abufe of the Houfe of Commons,their de- laying of having their votes tranfmitted concerning his fentence in Sar- chamber, yea, and that againft fbme Members of the tHoufe of Commons by name? Again,if all the power were in the Houfe of CommonSjWhy did he not reft contented with their votes, but de- fire the Lords concurrance, and that for the punifhingevenof Members of the Houfe of Commons, as in page 75. preffingthe Commons to rranfmit their votes, by Way of anfvver to an objecti- on, ■ What juftice can you expect from the Lords, feeing Mafter * Smart hath fpent foure or five hundred pounds * he fhewes his caufe to be different from Mafter Smartf, in that he is to have ju- ftice upon thofe whofe eftates are notfequeftred, as Mafter Smarts Adverfaries were,but fome of them ftill fit in both Houfes. And laftly, if the Houfe of Lords have no power to try or judge LiU burnt a Commoner, but their offering (b to do be a high usurpati- Errors and Proceedings of the SeBariei, j 5 p on, invaRon of the Commons rights why did not Lilburm when he was accufed ofhigh treafbn before the Lords Barre up:m his life (as himfelf makes the relation, page 74.) appeale then frorr the Houfe of Lords to the Houfe of Commons? And as Lilburne himre!f fche head of rhe Sc&arks in thefe AntlParliamemary principles) owned th? power of the Lords equall with the Com- mons, and prefer'd their Juftice before that or the Houfe of Com- mons, though not chofen by che people : (b Crttenfis alias * Mafter John Goodwin^ brings Arguments from the Koufe of Commons ^ , M being chofen by the people againft their power of making Lawes A-Jimadve?^ in matters Ecclefiafticall, and the peoples Tubmitting to them, on Mr Good- becaufe they are chofen by the riffe rsffe of the Land, all forts of »'»* Thco- \ men, worldly men, drunkards, #r. having a right of nominating f?^,pa8,22# perfons to a Parliamentary truft and power . Thefe are a fecular Truth' Tri** root, outofwhichCretoz/z/ conceives an impoflibility that a fpiri- umphing over tuall extraction fhould be made, For who can bring a chant thing falfliood, pag. out of an tmckanefic.Now by this the Reader may fee the Sectaries *o& 107, 108, agree not, fome excluding the Lords from all power, becaufe not chofen by the univerfality of the people, others excluding the Commons from their power,becaufe chofen by the univerfall peo- ple; fothat according to Matter Goodwins dc&rine, the Lords being of Noble Parentage and well bred, not chofen by the rirTe rafTeof the people, A theifts,Drunkards, the prophane world, may be fitter, and have more Authority to nominate and appoinr who (hall be the men, that mall order the affaires of Chrifts Kingdomej then the Commons. And thus have I fet the Pbarifes and Saddu* cts one againft the other. Secondly, I propound fbme Queres to LilbHrntfivzrtonficc* to Anfwer againft I fet forth a fourth pare oiGangrtna. r, Quere, If all fubjecVton and obedience to Governors be founded only upon the parties immediate prefent election of them, and not other wife$whether then may any obedience fo much as to appeare before , anfwer any queftions, or fubrair, be given to Juftices of Peace,Judges,Keepers of the great Seale, Sheriffs, Com- mittee?,^, who are not chofen by the people ? K 2» Whether any obedience, refpecY,coming without refinance upon Warrants fent for, maybe performed to Majors of Townes, or Deputy Majors, not chofen by the Town wkere they fer ve, but appointed igo A mw and further Dijcovery of the appointed by Ordinance of Parliament > 3, Whether if men remove from one Town to another, where they had no hand- in chafing Majors and Magiftraces, nmft they demand a liberty and power to chafe them before they will obey any of then* command&;and whether &mft all the young youths of a Town when they come to twenty one years, or years of fubjeft- ing, demand in the places where they live, a power of chufing iUdermen, or Burgeffes of Townes before they can fubmit to .them? .4. Whether does not a constitution of a Government For fuch a people and Nacion,made by the vei(Home of Anceftors feme hun- hundred years before^though not by election of the peopl once in e- very year^or (even,ormore,but founded upon (uch and fuch good Lawes, and in fucceflion of perfons by birth and mheritance,bind jj people to obey and fubjec*r, as well as if chofen by them ? 5. Suppofe in formes of civill Government and conftitution of Kingdomes, every particular were not fo good and exacl as might be defired by fome, and poflibly might be, yet whether is not a peoples fubmittingj and accepting that forme of Govern- ment many years together a confenting to it, and equivalent 10 a formall Election. There is one fohn 'Price an Exchange man, Cretenfes beloved Difciple,and one of his Prophets; who among others preach for him, when he-hath any Book to Anfwer, or fome Libertine Tra- «ftate to fet forth ; This man hath put forth three Pamphlets, one about Independencie , the other two Repiyes or Anfwers; one to the City Remonftrance, the other to a Vindication of the Remonftrance ; in all which he fhewes himfelf to be Schollar .to fretenfis&xA fomewhat allyed to Lilburne, Overton, and the reft of thofe Sectaries, who give all the fupreame power of this King- dome to the Houfe of Commons : For in his City Remon- ftrance Remonftrated, and in his moderate Reply he isagainft the City Remonftrance, for giving only a (hare of the fupreame power to the Houfe of Commons, and inftead of three Eftates * City Re- tne * King, Lords, and Commons, of which the fundamentall ^^n^ .Conftitution of the Government of this Kingdome is made up, pag.23,z4^5," ^e n€)lds there is but one, and that the Commons, for which hee *<>. ' .gives his Reafons (fuch as they be) and puts Queres to the Au- thor Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries* 161 thor of the Juftification of the City Remonftrance ; their fcope being all aiong,to give the v/hole fupreame power,and not only a ^)artto the Commons. Certainly thefe Books of Matter Price were not written in the yeare 1645. butintheyearei^tf. that they agree fo with Lilbnrne,Overtony&c. And if I fliould life his Mafter Cjoodwins Argument againft him here, I wonder how hee would anfwer it; ' Thofe who are chofen by the generality of the 'Land,Worldlings,drunkards,uncleane perfons are not fit to have e the whole fupreame power of the Kingdome, and neither King, c nor Lords to have any part with them. Eut fo are the Com- -mons of England chofen. Ergo. Now both the major and the minor are his Tutor Cjoodwins, onfy the major is ftronger as I put jt;for if according to Mafter Cjoodwin^ becaufe they are chofen by the Common people,and not only by Saints.they are uncapable of apart of the fupreame power,becaufe there is an impoflibility of a fpirituall extraction out of a fecufar root; then much more fhould they not have the whole fupreame power. And as this * man is bold with the power of the King and Lords to exchange it,and give it to the Commons , fo he is with the City , the Court of Common-Councell, calling the City Remonflrance made by the Common-Councell, the difturber of the quiet and peace of the c Church and State&c. And fo in page 13. 22. there are paflages Remonftrance afperfrng the Remonftrance and the Common-Councell. This Remcnftratcd. Mafter /VvV*. contents not himfelf to preach only in London, but I heare of him by a godly Minifter who was lately at Edmunds- Bn- ry, that he hath preached there inahoufe, and a godly judicious Citizen toktfneand fome others that he maintained to him fome dangerous and hereticall opinions, as that men might be faved who were not elected, and that if men did improve nature well. God would furcly give them grace; So that it feems this Exchange man fells other wares befides Independency and Separation, and does as the Apoftle Peter fpeaks, With famed words make mar~ chandi^e of mens foules* Mafter Price alfo(I fappofe this Price) was at a meeting here in London, where fome of ieverall Secls,Seekers, Antinomians, Ana- baptifts,Brownifts, Independents, met with fome Presbyterians to xonfider how all thefe mighc live together, notwithftanding their ieverall opinions, and he was?as all the Sectaries wore for a gene- Y rail 1^3 A New and further Dtfcovery of the rail Toleration, and they agreed together like buckle and thong, only the Presbyterians were not fatisEed. There is one Mailer Cradhckyih% came out of Wales, and is going thither again to be an Itinerary Preacher whom I have fpoken ofcrnpage 131. that hee declined coming to the Aflem- bly, but now lately QBobcr 14. feeing the pay could not be had without the concurrence of the Lords , and in all this time having made fome leading men his friends, hee came to be examined and ispafled; but befides that he hath gathered a Church, admini- ftring the Lords Supper in a houfe at evening, he hath preached many odd things in the City, ftraines tending to Antinomia- nifrne,Libertinifme, as fpeaking againfl men of an old Teflament fpirit, and how pqore Drunkards and Adulterers could not look, into one of our Churches but hell fire mufl be iiafhed in their fa- ces. That if a Saint fhould commit a groffe finnc,and upou the committing of it fhould be flartled at it, that would be a great finneinhim. And now lately this OUober, oratthe latterendof Sept ember ,he preached on that Text in Jhames-ftreet, Wee are not *f the night ,bttt of the day • upon which Text he delivered matter to this effect, that fince the Apofiles times, or prefently after thermthere had been a great night, but now the day was breaking out aiter a long night, and light was coming every day more then other ; and there were many Gofpel priviledges, and of the new ferufakm that we fhould then enjoy : In that day there fhould be ko Ordinances to p-jrufh men far holding opinions,there fhould be no Confefiions of Paith,there every one fhould have the liberty of their confciences,then as in Micah cis prophefied of thofe Gofpel times, zsfil people will whlke every one in the name of his God, and wee will Walke every one in the name of the Lord our Cjodfor ever find ever, which place was brought for liberty of confcience by bm) And in that day neither Epifcopacy nor Presbytery, nor any others fhould intermeddle3or invade the rights of the Saints; many fuch flings he had; and this Sermon was preached jufl upon that time when the Ordinance againfl HereH.es was taken into de- bate3and the GonCeffion of Faith to be brought into the Houfe of Commons, fo that by theie and many more particulars, his hints about dipping often and iuftering (uch, iLiewes what the rirft fruits ot. theie Itinerary Preachers are, and what a fad thing Err curs and Proceedings ofi he Se8aries. 1 6 2 thing 'els men fo principled fhould go among fuch a people as the Welchy with fo large a power of preaching as he and bis feliowes have. Mafter Symtfen the Jndependent,preaching psefcntly after the fecond part tfCjangY&na came forth. at Blac^f nan on fxne I 2. (as Jtis given me under ones hand)and in his Sermon difcourfing a- bout the Angels bringing no railing accufation againft Satan, he advifed his people how to behave themfelves at this time now the Saints infirmities were laid open; Firft,notanfwer a word, as the King of JnLih commanded thofe hefent to Rabfbakeb . Se- condly, co pray againft them, yea and to pray againft them by name,for God would avenge them. Reader take notice of the charity and love of Independents Aalmuivif* to their Presbyterian Brethren, to ftirre up the people to pray againft them, and that by name, with giving them an incourrage- rnent from Gods avenging, which I never read was pradifed by the Primitive Church,but only againft Julian the Apoftate, whom the Church judged with one confent to have (inned againft the Holy Ghoft. Thefe Independents and Sectaries did in many Books before my flrft part of Gangr&na came forth, name many Presbyterian godly Minifters, and others, laying open infirmities committed longbefore,yea abufing Members of both Houfes, and worthy perfons, by writing lyes and falfe things of them, as that religious and Noble Earle of Manchefter, Mafter Prpt9 Colonel! iC*V*£,Mafter Calamy, with, many more ; and have abufed by name in printed Books lately many able and godly Minifters of the Af- fembly,as Mafter Vines JAi&zt Marjball, Mafter Sedgwick^ Mafter Gataher, Mafter Ley, Mafter Netvcomen, JfiaL&et-Seaman, Mafter Hill^Oodior Purges, with fome City Minifters ; and this is no fault in the Sectaries, neither are thefe worthy men,Saints belike in the Independent Kalender, nor may the Presbyterians I hops pray againft Mafter Salt mar fc Cretenfis.Lilbnrne, and others of them by name 5 but for Mafter Edwards becaufe he hath written of the damnable Errors:Here(Ics, and Blafphemies of thefe times, and the better to preferve the people, and to make them take heed, hath given the names of fome of the prime feducers, Wrighter^ Erb*tryy Hich, fValfoyn, "Denne, Kipi, Lambe, Lil- lmrnt£tt% not Saints in his Creed, nor their opinions and wayes, Y 2 kifirrnities, 1 64 A New md further Dffeovery cf the infirmities, but deliberated, plotted abominations, therefore hee Hiuft be prayed againft, and that by name ; and as Matter Sympfin gives him his blefling, fo his Brother Borroughs prefently after the coming forth of- the ^Antavologie, preaching at Qomhlll, was fpeaking of fome that laid open the infirmities of the Saints, and that raked up Letters, ftories, and all to bring out againft the Saints;but of fiich (faith he) I wiilfay no more,but as Michael the Archangell the Lord, rebuke thee; which in the carriage of the paflage, and way of expreffion was fo evidently againft me, that (I beleeve)of godly Minifters and Chriftians twenty told me of it,; and they faid many who heard him, fpoke of it,and faid it was a poor thing of Matter Burroughs to fpeak fo in the Pulpit,tie (hould do well to anfvver the Book. Now as for the prayers of the Se- ctaries againft me and their curfes, I would have them know, that though I am forry for them they fhould do fo, yet I feare not their curfes, but well underftand that when they Qmk,Cjodwillbleffe, and that the curfe caufeleffe Jhall not come, ,rProv. 26. 2, befides I kno w,in this very thing I have more with me then againft me, and in many Countries of this Kingdome both North and Weft, I am affuredfrom godly Minifters and Citizens,; who have been with me,that I am in an efpeciall manner prayed for, and many thanks given to God in my behalf for enabling me, and ftirring me up to this work againft the Sectaries, There is agodly Minifter of Qhefhlre who was lately in London that related with a great deaie of confidence this following ftory as a moft certaine truth known to many of that County, that this iaft Summer the Church of Duc(jngfield( of which Mafter Eaton and Mafter Taylor are Paftor and TeacherJ being met in their Chappell to the performing of their worftiip and fejrvice, as Mafter Eaton was preaching,there was heard the perfect found as of a man beating a martch on a drum^ and it was heard as coming into the Chappell, and then as going up all along the He through the people,, and fo about the Chappell, but nothing feen, which Mafter Eaton preaching and the people that fate in thefeverali parts or the Chappell heard, infomuch that it terrified Mafter Eaton and the people,caufed him to give over preaching, and fall to praying,but the martch ftill beating,they broke up thek exercife for that time,and were glad to be gone, Now Errors md Proceedings of the Sectaries. 165 Now I conceive this paflage of Providence towards the/e In- dependents fpeaks thus much to them and to the Kingdom, efpc- Ammaivtrf* dally confidering this Church of ~D uckjpgfeld is the firft Indepen- dent Church viftble and framed t^at was let up in England, being before the Apologifts came from Hujjjndj and fo before their fet- tin^ up their Churches here in London, Firft, that the Indepen- dents are for wafsydefirous of wars, to maintain and uphold their Independent Churches by them 5 and third for a new warre with Scotland, as much as ever an unhappy boy did to be at flity-cufFes . with another boy 5 and for that end provoke the Scots all kind of wayes, ftudy all wayes to make a breach with them, Secondly, The warres which they would have, and occafion, (hall prove their ruine, the means to overthrow all their Conventicles, Separated Meetings ; they are greedy of a warre to eftablifh them,, but as now the beating of this Drum drove them out of the Chap- pell, broke up their Meeting, Co (hall the warre which they have (ought ,ovcrthrow all their Opinions, Meetings,and caft them out ' of England for ever ; astheBifhops and their faction were gree- dy for a warre againft the Scott, to iupport their greatnefie and Ceremonies, and have been aftive to promote this (econd warre*, which hath proved their ruine; fo the Independents plotting, and driving on for warre (hall break their necks, and break up dfeeir Conventicles, and caufe the Kingdoms to caft them out as an a- bominable branch $ and the iflhe of all the warres and bloud they thirft after,fball be, that fome of their Heads (hall be ferved by the Presbyterians,^**, put into that bloud which themieives have caufed, perifh byir, and that moft juftly, as King Cjrut was by Tom)rii that Scythian Queen,putting his head into a tub of bloud, and faying, Satia te J anguine quzm Jitifti, nam tnjatlabilU faijii $ and therefore let the Independents and Sectaries take heed of a new warre, and make ufe of this warning given them at one of; their Meetings, Y-3 $*rm 1 66 A New and further Dtfiovery of the Some Pcjfages taken out of a Letnr fern from 4godij Mrmfter m Northamptonshire to a Friend of bis in London. Gsod Cotifirtf * The inclofc4 T Pray read, Tea?, and at your beft leafure deliver the * inclofed 5 is ihefirftLet- J. wherein I have related Tome particulars very foul, though there Th'^Pa^rof be many more*anc* more hlafphernous : Its a wonder amonglt u?, &Mgr**a, l^u ot^er Souldiers cannot be found, but iuch as fight againft pag.'^i.acopy the foul, doing more hurt that way, then they can do good any of which wa« other way. If the Parliament take not a courfe with them, they given rr.c from ftali certainly become our future rod?, or God hirofelf will o* whofcLetKc11 verthrow them in our fi§ht5 *ake a note of the particulars and it was inclofed, keeP them, for I have not time. sas? **>**.*+ man to whom 1646. it was written. Some Faffkges extro&ed out of two Letters fen t from a, godly Chriftian in Lancashire to Friends in London. LOving Friend,God hath fafely returned our Friends in health • whatever our Petition produceth, yet we have this comfort, that we have done our duty. The Sectaries here have got a Peti- tion on foot for a Toleration, and hope they (hall not wait Co long at the Commons door for an Anfwer, as ours hath done. Sir, Since our Petition was received into theHoufe of Common?, (where it produced an Ordinance for the (etling of the Presby- terian Government in this County) the Sectaries have promoted an And- Petition here and in Cbejbire* they ftile it The Petition of the peaceable and TveUaffztted that defire liberty of conscience as was fromijfed b) the Mouje oj Commons in their Declaration they ordered formerly Erronrs and Proceedings of the Se8artes. 1 6j jormerly to be read in Churches : They have in erted fome other plaufible things into ic, the better to draw on hands, promote it with great fecrecy, (hew it to none but to fuch as before-hand they have fome afllirance will fign it: It was framed ►and feton foot by the Members of the Church of ' Ductyngfiildi but I am confident they admit to fign it Seekers, Soul-fkepers, Anabap- tifts: Rigid Brownilts,&c.We hear of one Minilier inour Coun- ty who hath figned it that is a common Drunkard, and two or three young Scholars, who have begun to preach without Ordi- nation, one of which affirmed to me and fome others, that hee r$ would defend Independency with his bloud. Mafter Taylor and Matter Eaton are wonderfull active both in Gbejbire and Lanca- Jbire9 they much improve- -who is become agreat zea- lot for them, hath threatned (ome of the godly Minifters that live near him to make their places too hot for them for de- nying their Pulpits to Mailer Eaton : We have through the mer- cy of God a learned and'aftive Clergy in our County, found and Orthodox, who I hope will beaflifted with many able and active men in their work of Government $ but' Cbejbire is miferably be- come a prey to the Sectaries, they have (et up already there two or three Independent Churche?, and are fetcing up two or three m0re$ — < hath fb farre incouraged them, difcouraged and born dewn the Orthodox wel-aftlfted Gentlemen and Mini- fters,ihat they could never to this day get any thing done againft them. We are as feniible (I beleeve^) as any Coumy in England, and fear the carriage of things is fuch as will make the King- dom weary. M-n ( peak here freely, and fay that now men may fafelier blafpherae all the Perfons in the Trinity, then (peak many things that are true of fome Members of Parliament, The fuffering the Church of God to be rent and torn in peeces by Herefies, Scifmes and Diviiions, the retarding the releif for poor bleeding Ireland, the greiving and (adding the hearts of our Brethren of Scotland, with many other things, makes us fear that the Lord hath a further comroverfie with us. Otlob. 10. 1646. A Minifter told me lately hee having a Living given him,or faire jFox.it/ome Seftaries3 Independents and Antinomjans defiriug to bring i68. „ A New and further Difcovery of the i bring in a S-ftary and anAnnnom.therupon procured hands to pe- tition the Patron for the Senary and againit this honeft Minifter, and to effeft their bufi neile the more probably, they fee down to the Petition the names of fome Inhabitants, who were for the Ortho- dox Minifter,in the behalie of this Senary, when as they were a- gainft his coming in,and never knew or once imagined their names were (ubfcribed. A Copie of a Letter written jrorn a godly Mini for in Holland to fome Reverend and godly Minijlcrs here in London, Reverend 'Brethren , Have been iparingin writing unto you, albeit I here have great need of correspondence in refpeft I am as it were alone among fb many of different difpofitions and nations. I acknow- ledge the blame in my felfe , who have not fought it of you, of whofe willingnefle I am confident. Now a particular occafion hath forced to break off, wherein I defire your refolution. The Currents that are brought over hither thefe laft two weeks make mention that the Aflembly of Divines are about the penning of the Articles of Faith, and that when the Article concerning the * The Farlia- Trinity was prefented unto the * Parliament, they would not ad- merumay by mjtof fa worc[ per(oi, becaufe it is a word not ufedin the flrfl prducHcefbme £^ree nun^rec^ veers5 and was the caufe of great divifion and trou- of thefe inde- blesin the Chriftian Churches ;This feemeth very ftrange unto pendent week, many here, feeing the word vmsajfit Htb. i. 3. was never nor is o- ly Pamphie- therwife tranflated in the Latin, French, Dutch, nor our lan- iers doe them, guage . nsjcher nave any excepted againft it but Antitxinitarians, iheir^ffafres Arrians, and Socinians and others of that fort. I have fpoken whileft under with the Dutch Minifters concerning this , ancLthey admire that debate, and the Parliament feemeth to have fuch refpeft unto thofe damned before finifli- fjereticks . and the more that the Orthodox in Poland in their ed,andhvwby their cxprefliotK in their Newes Books, the reformed Churches abro*d and many at home come to be greatly offended with the Parliaments proceedings, as if they denyed the Three Pei fons in the Trinity, whereas this debate was not upon the Aflembljes preienting the Arti- cles of Religion, but upon an Ordinance to punifh wi h death rriofe who fhouid deny the Terns expreffed in the Ordiaance, where among others Perfon was 5 but for the thing,what- focyet was faid of the word Perfon,ic was Voted at that time. late Errors and Proceedings of the Seclaries. 169 late Declaration would notgrant the name of Brethren in Ciiri- ftianity to the Socinians. One of the "Dutch Minifters of this Town told me. when we were fpeaking of this purpofe.that a Book-fel- ler faid to him , that fundry Engl 1H1 Merchants were feeking to buy the works ofSocinus , Ofiorcd'm , Oniedinns , Crelllus , and efpeciaily Socinus defervatore ; and when the Book-feller anfwer- ed that they could not have thofe books in thofe Countries , be- caufe they are difcharged by Ordinance of the Generail States, the Merchants faid unto him, Nevertheleffe you may bring them from other Countries j and we will give you for them what you will ; whereupon that Minifter when he told me this , faid , The Eftate of England is lamentable, for it feemeth that Socinianlfme waxeth there ; for this practice , and that excepting at the word, is too great evidence thereof. I heare alfo that Matter Simons hath written unto his Congregation here very confidently ^ tfcac Toleration mail beg; anted, even with thde terms, Infpigluof them who have enterpri&d the contrary. Wherefore, beloved Brethren, I humbly befeech you to let me know the certainty of this matter, that (if poflible) I may give fatisfa&ion unto wel« afre&ed perfbns>who think this excepting at that word to import no lefle then a condemning of, or ac lealt a departing from the Orthodox Confeffions of all the Reformed Churches. If in this or any other particular Occurrents it will pleafe you to give me intelligence, you may direct yout Letters unto K, W. who is a Skipper, and comes ufually betwixt London and this Town 5 wherein you fcall do good unco many, and efpecially unto O&ob. 13. Your Loving Brother 2jt 1 646. There is one Andrm Wyk$ of the County of Suffolk a Mecha- ruck, but turned a great Preacher and Dipper,wbo for his Preach- ing and Dipping being brought before the Committee of that County, carried himfclf like Lilburm^-Ovmon^ and other fellow Sectaries, refufing to anfwer the Chair-man any queftions, as whether he had been at the Univeriity, faying, I am a free man, and not bound to anfwer to any Interrogatory, I will anfwer to no Interrogatory 3 either to accufe my felf , or any other 5 be- Z fidei 1.7-0- A New and further D? fee-very of the fides he gave reproachful! words, reproving trie Committee, as, Igh may thinkjo jpeak what you pteaje now , with fuch other lan- guage. This Wy^ or fome other Se&ary hath printed a Pam- phlet, call'd The Innocent in Prifon comphining . or, A true Rela- tion of the proczzdings of the Committee at Jpfwicb, the Committee at Bury St. Edmunds in the County cf Suffolk, againft one Andrew VVyke a witneffe of Je[ufy in the fame County $ who wm commit* ted to Prifon ]um 3. 1^46. In which Pamphlet the Committee and divers Members of it by name are abufed , refembling them to the Jewes who condemned Chriit, and himfelf to Chriftj and the Commit tee is exclaimed upon fearfully pag-io. There is one Katherive Chidly an old Brownie, and her Ibnne a young Brownilt, a pragmatical 1 fell ow5 who not content with fjpreading their poyfon in and about London ^ goe down into the Country to gather people to them, and among other places have been this Summer at Bury in £^%, to fet up and gathes a Church there , where (as I have it from good hands ) they have gathered about feven perions, and kept their Conventicles together > who being one night very late together about their Church-affairs , a mad woman breaking from her Keeper and running out of the houfe (he was kept in, happened to light up- on the houfe where this company was, and flood up in the entry of the houfe 5 they being upon duTolving their meeting, and go- ing to their feverall homes, as they were going out, there ftood ibis woman in her frnock in the entry (peaking never a word5 which when they (aw3 they ran over one another for fear of this white devilljfbme one way, fome another, almoft frighted out of that little wit they had, Gaffar Lanfeter otBury (for fohe was, unlefle he hath commenced Matter by preaching) whom I have fpoken of in the Second Part of Gangrana, was a great man with Katherim Chidly and her fonne, and is left Preacher to that com- pany of Sectaries in their room ; and I have great realon to think by the Epiftle to the Reader, that Katherim Chidly and her fonne made that Book call'd Lanfeters Launce , becaufeiv^ritfe Chidly and her fons Books (for the mother and the fon made them toge- ther, one inditing, and the other writing) are highly magnified, and the brafen-faced audacious old woman refembled unto Jaeli but as for Ltmfettrs L&mcefot my Gwgrana, I (hall (hew it to be made Err ours and Proceedings of the Se&artes. 1 7 * made not of iron or fteele, in no /ore able or ufefull to lanee or enter the Gangrma , but a lance of brown painted paper,fit for children to play with $ and to aiTure the Reader of ir, I received this laft week a Meffage to this purpofe, from one of the Mini- fters who gave intelligence about Lanfeter, that he was about per- fecting the proofes and particulars about Lanfeters bufinefle, and I (hould fhortly hear from him 5 and within this two dayes a god- ly underftanding man who was prefent at this meeting when Lan» Jeter preached upon Ezra , gave me an account of the burlnef7e5 of the truth of the whole, and hath put me in away, whereby, under the hands of perfons prefent at the meeting, I may have ic confirmed ; and Co among the confutations of fome other Pam- phlets, I (hall infer t this of Lanjeters. There is one John Hall a great Sectary ,who hath vented many ■erroneous Politions in fome parts of Barkfiirs and thereabouts^ I had a copy of them from a Reverend Minifter of the Aflembly; and in the Second Part o$Gmgr*na in the Catalogue of Errors, foch Errors as he vented, viz. fuch as were not reckoned up in the Firft Part of Gangrf Commons mould give any Order for them to go fight with the Scott, they would go$ That if the Houfe of Commons U ould give order to come againft the City of Lwdon, they would do it $ and lie fpakeofthe City of London with mnch deteftadon, faying, hee was perfwaded the City of London hated that Army, with other words to that effect This Captaine asked them, if they heard not of the plot to deftroy the Army, to fend part of them into Inland, to be there cut off (Co the fending of forces into Ireland was interpreted.^ This Captaine to another honeft man, either the fame day, or within a few dayes maintained the fame things in fubftance, io that one of them telling a Colonel! belonging to the Army what this Caprair.e had faid, that upon an order of the Houfe of Commons, they would as willingly right againft the City of London and Scotr, as ever they did againftthe Cavaleers,the Co- lonell anfwered readily, it was no fuch wonder, for he beleeved it was the tenfe of a great many in the Army. A'pedbn of worth who was at the Bath this Summer, told me that he hid heard Matter Saltmar(h> and Mafter 'Del preach there before the Generall, but never heard them pray for forgivnefle of finnes«and faid he was glad he had heard them,that he might know what manner of men they were. It hath been told me by two or three of the Town of Wantwich in Bar fyfbire, that at a Town neer Wantwicb, and in Waniwlch a great Market Town, a'-Se&ary belonging to the Army, preached in the Parifh Churches; one of the Texts upon which he preached was out of the Revelati&n, where he fpake much of Antichrift, and that all thofe were Antichriftian who were for childrens Baptifme, and that none could be faved un-efle they were rebapsized. The man when he had done preaching at wmiwichfyoVz to the people, and defired them to object what they could againft his Sermon, and he would anfwer them;hedidnot bid theirfcome to hischam- ber to be fatisfied as many would, but he was publikly ready to anfwer any objections made againft what he had preached. There is a very honeft man olW&stirhitttyrs Parilh inBer- mwdfej- Errows and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 175 mondfeyftmt cold me, thaconeCJ^r/Zu// of chat PariQia great Se- ctary, refufing to pay hisTyths, according to the Ordinance of Parliament,was queftioned, and upon proof before three Juftices of Peace was adjudged to pay ic, but not paying for all this, two godly men, Matter W. and he ("who told metbisftoryj came to demand it, or elfe diftraine, whereupon he calld thefe honeft men robbers and theifs, andfaidthe Parliament made an Ordinance to ^c^, rob men, which being complained of and proved, this Marfball ^^ was committed. New when he was committed, Lilbxrm alliited him in his bufineflfe, came to this honeft man who related to me the ftory, to fee the Warrant, by vertue of which they proceeded to diftraine^andin fine this Mwfhdl arretted the Juftices of Peace d|7| fwho went according to the Ordinance) and the Distrainers, but at laft being brought before the Committee of Examinations, he promifed to withdraw his a&ion* and faid, he (pake thofe words in his paftlon 5 and yet fince his promife, hath renewed his fuite, and the Juftices and Diftrakiers are now troubled by him. A godly Minifter of this City told me June 1?. 1546. that he difcourfing with a Major belonging to the Army about the Government or the Church, he told him plainly that they were not To much againft Presbyterull Government (chough many thought 1 hem fo^as againft the being tyed to any Government at all 5 for if the Parliament would fei up the Independent Gove rn- ment,and injoyne that upon them, they mould be as mush agunft «=£3' that as againft Presbyter UK Government: They held liberty of Confcience, that no man fhould be bound, or tyed to any thing, but every man left free to hold what they pleated; that was the judgement and true genius of that fort of men in the Army, calld Independents, that in all mateers of Religion no man fhould be bound, but every one left to follow his own Conference. There is a libellous Pamphlet entkuled, The Lord ' MSpts fat- well from his Office of Major 'a/tie, which was fern: to him in a Let- ter by an Anabaptift, one of the meek and quiet of the earth, as he ofcen calls himfeif and his fellow es in that Pamphlet, and coming to my Lords hands over-night, next day he heard that it was in print; the fuhttance of which Pamphlet is to charge my Lord Major with breach of promife, in not endeavoring to procureof the Parliament, a .pubfcke difputation between the Anabaptifts and \y6 A New and further Difcoveryo} the and chePresbyterianSjand for prefemingan unjuft Remonftrance to the Parliament, for fupprefting bofh Anabaptifts and Separating Now I (hall fpeak (bmething to both thefe, and vindicate the truth againft this lying Libeller. Secondly, I (hall Animadvert on fomepafiages and expreffions in this Pamphlet. For the rlrft,my Lord Majors breach of promife, upon which ^ hee runns out and defeants, builds this inference among others, That if Mafter Edwards or Voftor Baftwick had any fitch blot again ft us9doftbtlefle there would be great Volumes of a hundred jkeets a peece blazed throughout ths Kingdome to dfgrace utsas your breach of fromife I anfwer breifly, the building muft needs fall, when as the foundation falls 5 my Lord Major broke not his pro- inife, but was very careful! of it, and mindful! of what you fay hee promifed, namely, to know the pleafure of the Parliament, and to endeavour the liberty of a publike difputation, and my Lord was (b confeiencious in it, both in regard of God and in regard of men, that he might not be upbraided with breach of promife, knowing well what a generation he had to deale with, that he was never ac quiet after his promife was made, till the Houfe of Commons was moved in the bufinefle ; and therefore every time when he (aw Mafter Recorder, he minded him to move the Houfe, he put a note into his hands becaufe heftiouldnot forget; when he fa w him not for (bme time, he writ to him to mind him, and was never content- ed till it was done; and Matter Recorder did take in his time with- in fbme weeks after my Lords promife, watching when he might acquaint the Houfe feafonably, without interrupting other great publike occafions of the Kingdome; and the Houfe of Commons Anfwer was, they approved of the wifdome of my Lord Major, in forbidding the disputation at that time, and that they would not give confent for a difputation,* and for the truth of this, let Mafter Recorder be asked, and other Members who were prefent 5 and therefore Mafter Recorder in all places, and to all who (peaks to him about it, clears my Lord Major that he punctually performed his promi(e5 and ifitbeany fiich hainous crime to hinder fuch a tu- multuous difputation, as that was like to have been, let them lay the blame upon the Houfe of Commons, if they dare,and not upon the Lord Major. And what I write in this matter, I (peak know- fagty> asbeing aflured of the truth of it, from the mouth of him who Err ours and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 1 7 who (bould know. But leaft the Anabaptifts mould think, whilft I vindicate the truth againft a fcandalous reproach can up- on the Lord Major, I do it out of refpe&s as being glad the Difpu- tation was pur off, and fince denyed; I here declare my feli> that I could wifh withall ray heart there were a publike Di imputa- tion, even in thepoint of Paedobaptifme and ofDipping, between (brae of the Anabapcifts, and fome of our Minifters ; and had I an intereft in the Houl'esto prevaile to obtaine it fwhich I (peak not as to prefume of any fuch power, b:ing fo meane and weak a nun) it mould be oneofthefirft Petitions I would pur up to the Hono- rable Houfes for a publike Deputation, as was at Zurich,, namely, that both Houfes would give leave to the Anabapcifts to chufe for themielves fuch a number of their ableftrnen, and theAfllmbly leave to chufe an equall number for them, and that by Authority of Parliament pubiike Notaries fworne, might be appointed to write down ali , fame Members of both Hou.es preftn: to fee to the Peace kept, and to be judges of the fa ire play and liberty given the Anabapttfts, and that there might be Overall dayes of Disputa- tion, leave roths ntmoft given the Anabaptilts to fay what they could,and if upon fuch faire and free debates it mould be found the "Anabaptifts to be inth:Truth,then the Parliamentnoronly to To- lerate them, but to Ettablim and fettle their way throughout the whole Kingdome; but if upon Deputation and debate, the Ana- baptilts mould hi found in an Error(as I am confident they would) that then the Parliament fhould forbid all Dipping, and take fome •. . feverecourfewhh all Dippers, as the Senate of * ZmV^did after & ^f/^? the ten feveral! Disputations allowed the Anabaptifts. ^ad% Ub-z* For the fecond particular, m/ Lord Major is charged wkfi presenting of an unjuft Renronftrancetothe Parliament, forfup- prefung Anabaptifts, &c Ianfwer, my Lord Major prefented it not, heevvent not toWeftminfter with it, but fome Aldermen and Common counfell men chofen by -the Court: The Remon- strance was the Act of the Court of Common-counfell, and not my Lords Majors alone, nor my Lord Majors any otherwife, but as a Member of that Honourable Court concurring with the reft; and then whereas this Libeller calls it an unjuft Remonftrance, 'tis a mo ft juft and equail Remonftrance, as hath been fully proved by l/^&&t BelUmh m his Juftifcation and Vindication of the City A a Remon- 178 A New and further Dffcovery vf the Remonftrance,and in that Book entituled the SeBaries Anatomic zed; and if I would give liberty to my pen, I could further jufti- fie not only the juftneffe of it, but the neceflity of it, and lihow demonftrativcly, that it will never be well with this Kingdome, whilft Sectaries are in places of publike truft, and that thefub- jeds of this Kingdome can never expecl juftice, nor right, whilft UL, men of other Religions, then what is eftablifhed by Law, are in places of power ; and I wonder that the Anabaptifts and Secta- ries, fhould befo offended at that part of the Remonftrances. when as 'tis their dayly pradife, not by faire and juft wayes (God knowes)but by undermining, watching for iniquity, laying fhares for men; yea going againft all principles, Military and Civill, of Honour and of Juftice, to put men from places of Trull: and Com- mand, of which there are many remarkable unparalleld inftances3. and the world in due time may have a true account of them. And laftly,whereas 'tis faid, frefenting a Remonftrance for pro- curing Licence and Authority ^ to fupprejfe all fitch as have good principles and grounds for their pratlifes ; thats moft falfe, for in the fame Remonftrance againft Hereticks, Blafphemers, Anabap- tifts,^. they petition for the fetling of Religion and Church- government, according to the word of God, and the example of the beft Reformed Churches, which Religion, Church-govern- ment fo built, hath certainly good ground for its pra&ife. For the fecond, I defire the Reader to obferve a few things upon fome of the expreflions in this Pamphlet, that he calls the Anabaptifts and Sectaries the meekjtnd quiet of the Land> as Mafter Peters doth, theharmlefte Anabaptifts, then which that there are not a more turbulent unquiet people in the world, made oiSalt-Teter^ let this Book witneffe, and the language in it given thecheifMa- giftrate of the City, with the railing feditious Libells put out dayly againft the King,Houfe of Lords, Affembly, yea and the Houfe of Commons too. The Anabaptifts of old calld xhemfelves the meek of the Earth, and faid, that now the promife muftbe fulfilled, themelC fiall inherite the Earth, when, they by bloud> Rapine, cruel Warrs,feafed on the poffelfions of others. Se- condly, that thefe Sectaries will take things for granted, and therupon paife defperate cenfuresuponMagiftrates,Minifters,and all, when as there is no fuch thing but quite contrary, as going oa Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. J 79 to aggravate things againft my Lord Major, and referable him to wicked ^4ha^, &e. for breaking his promife, when as he per- formed it moft punctually and confcientioufly, confideringhim- felf both as a Chriftian, and as a Magiftrate, in fuch an eminent place. Thirdly, that thefe new Anabaptifts, as well as the old, are guilty of fpeaking evill of dignities, and bringing railing accu- fation inprint againft Powers, branding the Lord Major with that brand fet byGod himfelf on wicked Aha*,, this is that Lord Major of London, Thomas nAdoms by name, #rf A Citizen a freind of mine having been this lad fummer iri Cheshire, and divers other Countries upon his occasions, heard ma- ny Malignants fay, they would turne Independents, for then they fhould not take the Covenant, nor be forced to any thing, but be at their liberty. fmefhz 11. I was told by a godly Citizen, and a cordial! friend to the Publike, that fome of the Independents havefaid. they will have their way yet, whatfoever it coft them. In fome of the weekly news-Rooks J have obferved paltagesin- ferted of the great love and unity in the Army between the fouldiers,Presbytery and Independency making no breach; and in the Perfett Occurrences of the Week,calld the two and twentieth Week, ending the 20. of May, 1646. the Pamphletertells us 'tis very obfervable to confider the love and unity which is among the fouldiers; Now I asked about thatxtime a Chaplaineof the A*- my,a moderate Prcsbyterian,whether it was fo,and how it came a- bout,hegave me this anfwer, through the great forbearance of the Presbyterians, whofurfered them to have their wills, and eroded them not,took all patiently, and (faidhe) if the Presbyterians fhould not have done fo, but ftood upon things as the Indepen- dents, it had been impoffible but the Army had been broken in e=^3 twenty peeces many a time before this, for the Sectaries are of fuch a proud high fpirit, that if they had not had their wills, there would have been no peace ; and indeed both in Armies., Ailembly, City,there hath been that forbearing, yeelding on the Presbyteri- an party, in reference to the publike, that the Independents and Sectaries, if they had been in their place would never have done* though it had coft the totall lofle of three Kingdomes. I beleeve »o age nor ftory can parallcll, all things confidered, the Love* A a 2 Patience^ I go :A Ntw and further Dif cover j of the Patience, long-fuffering of the Presbyterians, yea the pafling by and putting up fe-many provocations, and unfufferable abufes as they have done, and that from a contemptible handfullofrnenin comparifon; but thatsour comfort, That the patient expectation of the poor e {ball not be forgotten for ever, and that God willfave the &jfli£fed people, but will bring doivne high looks I have been affured from divers good hands, as Citizens and ©thers,th at the greateft thing in the City Remonftrance that the Sectaries are offended at,is that about places of publike truft, they take that moil: hainoufly, that Sectaries fhould not have places of honour,profit,and power ; which clearly (hewes to all the world, 'tis not a bare Toleration of their confciences,& of enjoying their own perfonall Eftates in the Land that they feek, or which would content them ; but they look for Preferment ,Rewards, power to have others under them 5 fo that 'tis a Domination, and to be in fuch a condition that others may feek to them to be Tole- rated, that they aime at ; a Toleration and liberty of confciencs contents them not, but a Liberty of Offices, and a power of great places, both in Military and civill affaires they ft and for. Mafter Burroughs in the yeare 1645. both preached and printed, even in that Tractate where he pleades for a Toleration, ' That the c Magiftrate may,to men who differ from the State, in greater Er- * Mr Burr- e rors,(at leaft) deprive them of * the benefits and priviledges of Irenkon. jw. c the State,notwithftanding their pleas of confcience: andinevills 34* ' of leife moment, put them to fome trouble in thofe wayes of < evill, fo farre as to take off the wantoneffe of their fpirits* and * MtBurrwg. ' the neglect of meanes; fome * trouble may be layed in the way, Irenicon. pag. cf0 that men {hall fee there is fomething to be fuffered in thae 3^-37« ^ way ; and there is no reafon why any (hould be offended at this; yea Mafter Burroughs grants one ftep maybe gone further, that * in fuch things as men by their weakneffe make themfelves leffe * ferviceable to the common-wealth or Church, they may be de- 'nyed fome priviledges and benefits that 'aregranted toothers. And of this, Mafter Burroughs gives inftances and enlarges it, Now certainly if this doctrine were good and true in the yearc, 1645. bef°re the fucceffe of the new Modell, and the recruit of the Houfe °f Commons, the doctrine in the City Remon- ftrance,1^ cannotbebad norfalfe, that would baye Anabap- tilts. ■ Errours and Proceedings of the Sectaries. ig r tifts,Heriticks, and Schifmaticks kept, and removed from places of Publike truft; If they may be denyed priviledges and benefice that are granted to others, and fome trouble laid in their way,dr. for their opinions, then certainly they (hould not be preferred above others to all places of publike truft, whilft men who conforme to the true Religion eftablilhed by the State, be kept our, yea turned out of places 5 And as Mafter Bnrrougbs was of this mind, fo I and divers others have heard Mr Tbo. Goodwin- ingenucufly profeffe fince this Parliament,though the Magiftrate ftould forbeare tender confeiences that could not come up to the r^ Rule, yet it was moftequall that the countenance and prefer* ments in the Magiftrates hands,fhould be beftowed only on thofe who conformed to what was eftablimed; and therefore faid hee, wedefire only to be fufferedto live, and enjoy the Ordinances, but expect no places nor any of that maintenance which is in the States diipofmg; and therefore the Remonflrants in that branch of their Petition were farre from Perfecution , Jnjuftice , if Mafter Burroughs and Matter Goodwin may be beleeved, and that which they dtfired moft neceflary to take off the wantonnefle of mens ipirlts,and the neglect of meanes ; and in all this, ther's no more graines of trouble then might help agmft this wantcn- nefie^c. and the trnth of it is thefe preferments, places of pub- like truft, &c. have made more Sectaries and Anti Presbyterian?, then all the Sermons and Books ever preached and printed by the Se&aries.and 'tis one of the great (prings of all our evills, the prime caule of all lnjufhce, Oppreffion, Error, Faction ; and things will never go well with the publike, nor the union of both -^ Kingdomesbefoundlyfetlcd, till Herecicks, Blafphemers, Schi£ maticks, Seekers, Anabapiifts, Antinomians, Libertines, Brow- nifts, and Independents, be removed from all places of publike truft, both Martiall and Civil! r and 'tis a moft righteous thing to Petition for it, As the zealous Proteftants of this Kingdome could not expect Juftice, protection from Popifh Counfellour?, Judges, Juftices, &c. then in place, and we cryedout of it be- fore this Parliament, as an intolerable griveance and mifcheif tothegoodfubjectsof this Kingdome, becaufe men but fufpected of Popery, or whofe Wives werePapifts, were in places of pub- like rruft (for by that meanes Papifts were brought of% and fucfr as^ i&2 A New and further Difcovery of the aswerecaldPuritants, felt their power upon all occafions^ na more can the Orthodox Presbyterians expect right , juftice, from Settanan Counfellprs , Juftices of Peace, &c. efpeciallyin diffe- rences between them and Independents 5 for ail Sectaries looke upon cordial] Presbyterians with a greater eye of malignity, jea- louiie, particular intereit then any other fort o? men j and there- fore to ftrengthen their owne party, will weaken and difcourage them ail they can poffibly. There were fome Independents, that dining in June lak at the facufe of a Presbyterian who married an Independent, were fpeaking of the Presbyterians, that generally all of them deiired that help might goe for Inland, and that on the Fail: day in June they preached and prayed much for help to relieve Ireland, and among other Minifters they named one that fhculd pray thus, or to this effeft, That now Oxford was taken, all might goe, Lord let them all goe : Thefe Independents faid the Presbyterians had fbme defign fure , they were fc earneft for the Army to goe to Ireland • but fbrne of the Independents faid , they had fbme- thing elfe , or other uie for the Army then to goe to he* land* The Seftaries in the Moneth of May laft raged extremely, and fpake defperately , fo that a Common- Councell man who had heard many of them (peak* told me he had faid to fome of them, that they muft provide Bedlam for them : The newes of the Kings going to the Scots, the Remonftrance of the City of London, with fome other things that fell out that Moneth, vexed them terribly 3 one Sectary a kind of Gentleman belonging to a Parliament man faid in the hearing of fome, that the King, the Houie of Lords, the City, the Scots , and the AfTembly were joyned together , but they had the Houfe of Commons and the Army 5 and gave out fbme fuch words as if fome three or foure thoufand horfe mould billet in the City : This man was had be- fore my Lord Major for thefe words, and I being told of it by one who wentto my Lord Majors with him , I alfo having an opportunity asked my Lord Major of the truth of it, who re- membred there was fuch a thing. /mitnafo&f* God grant the King,Hou(e of Lords,City,Scots , Aflembly be well joyned together, and agreeing* and not only Kmg,Lords,&c„ bat Errors and. Frocttdings of the Sectaries. 183 bat the Houfe of Commons alfo:The Lord fend a perfe& Peace and Union between the King and both Houfes , and give a good un- demanding and agreement al wayes between Parliament , Citie ± Aflembly , our Brethren of Scotland. Thefe kind of fpeeches of the Commons and the Army put by themfelves , as divided from the Houfe of Lords , City, &c. are words of fedicion; bat to vindicate the honour of the Houfe of Commons and the Army from fuch fpeeches as thefe^too frequent in the mouths of many Sectaries ; lean aflure the Kingdomefrom the mouths of many worthy Members of the Houfe of Commons , and of Commanders in the Army, how much foever thefe Sectaries prefumeupon the A Houfe of Commons , calling them in many * Pamphlets of late , fofn™^mz. Their owns Hottfe of Commons , oat Houfe of Commons , and upon ny thoufand! * the Army, that they are Independents and for that party, that Citizens, and the greateft number of Members of that Houfe by far re , are no ot^er Free- Sectaries , and though (ome are crept in among them, Yet the b°rn people of body of the Houfe are neither Independents, Anabaptifts, Anti- thd/owne nomians , nor fuch like 5 and fo in the Army there are more Pres- Houfe ofCons byterians then Independents , yea if the Army were divided into mor.s. An A- four parts, three parts ofthefour areno Independents, Ana- Iarumtothe baptifte , Antinorrrians,&c* and therefore I hope to fee the day ^fc o£ of King, Lords, Commons, Scots, Cityot London, Armies, the body of the Kingdoms , all concurring for the fetlementof the Reformed Proteftant P^eligion, and for the extirpating of He° refie, Schifme , ProphanefTe , and all DocVins which is not ac- cording to god linene, A Cicizen,an able underftanding man , related to ms and two Citizens within thefe few dayes , that he and a great Indepen- dent (peaking together about the King, this Citizen urged thai branch of the Covenant, That we have (worn to defend the Kings Perfbn and Authority , and to maintain His juft power and great** nelle* the Independent replyed prefently ? what was his juft po- wer* mppofe( faith this Independent) there were atheife, and you mould make a Covenant with himtomaintaine his juft pri- viledges, whatofthat? might you not for all that bring himto punishment 1 labouring to bring htm to the Gallows were his juft priviledges , and no breach of Covenant: whereupon (aid this Citizen , Is this your interpretation of the Covenant ? I would. 184 d New and further Difcovery of the would never have taken it whilft the world flood in that fenfe $ and further faid this Citizen, when this Covenant wa6 made and fworne, what ever you can fay againft the King , as raifing Wars againft the Parliament , and what ever elfe you imagine, It was before this Covenant was taken; you knew as much of him before as now j Co that tis ftrange you mould fpeak fo : And then this Qlthen reafoned with this Independent againft punifliing the King j David was guilcy of Murther and Adultery, and there were then Elders of the people, Princes and Judges in IJrael as well as now, and yet none of them offered to queftion Da* vid upon his life, or inflift punifliment : neither do we find that God by the prophets gave any fiich direction topunih David , though by the Law death was due for Murther toother men ; we Jtnow Godientthe prophet Nathan to reprove him , and to bring him to repentance for his great finne, but not toftirre up the Princes,Judges and Elders or" the people to proceed againft him 9 as they did againft Malefactors. Errors md 'Proceedings of the Sectaries. 1 85 f*!p- tstif* rtto r&v tin* sin tfj3 «&*3 *£& #3ra t&sr t&9 rrtr* #7n 'tfjfr v?Jfcr&ft A Relation and Difcovery of the LibertinifmeandAtheifmeJKr- rib'e fearful/ uncle&mejfes of fever all kinds, Drunk, nmff, generah ' Loo fen: /p: and It centwufnejfe of living,, Cofening and Deceiving box h of particular ptrfons and of the State an d King- dome > fear full Lying, fugling and falffying of promises, abo- minable Pi ide and boafling in the Arms of flejh, unfuffer. bit Infolencies and horrible mi f demeanors of many Seclanes ofthefe times 5 particularly their Infolencies tgainsi the Laives of the Land,theKing, the H-oufe of Lords, Houfe of Commons , fomt particular worthy Members by name of both Houfcs, Com- mittees of both Ho'ifes^ both Houfe s of Parliament as con-juncl in their Authority and Ordinances \ agairfour Brethren cfScot- land, the Kingdom of Ireland/he City of I ondGnsheAffem- bh, the whole Wnijtery of this Kingdom, and all tbe Informed Chinches .again/l inferior Magi [Irate s and Courts, <£> the Jud. ges, Juflices of Peace , Majors of Cities, Cemmittes, and all forts of officers ofjufiice. I He Particulars in al'thefe kinds are lb many and Co infinite, that particularly to reckon theiu up and give their ftory, would fill a great volume, and I have already in the foregoing part of the Book gi- ven (ome inftances in moft of them, and therefore! (hall but brerfly point ar, and give bin s only upon thefe ieverail heads, referring xhe Header for further fad: faction to many Pamphlets a*d B ;ok? daily printed and openly fold, and to his own ob(er vation of things, 1 . The great LsbeFtimfine and A< heifme of many Se&aries ap- pears by their violent and feirce pleading tor by word and Writing a free Liberty and Toleration of all kind of Religions and Con- sciences w&atfbever, and that not only in lefiTer points of Do&rine, ' Bb but 186 A New And further Dtftovery of the but in the moft fundamental! Articles of Faith, yea and of denying the Scriptures, and that there is a God, and by the pleading for Li- berty in fuch away, and by liich medium^ viz. that no man is in- fallible and certains in any thing he hold?, . that tis poffible he roay.bemiftaken, "*"* A great Se&ary pleaded in che hearing of perfons of worth ( from whom I immediately had it) for a Toleration of Stage-playes, and that the Players might be fee up againe. I heard a Senary plead for a Toleration of VV^cheS; and I urging that argument, that Witches might fay, they in their conference hold rheDevill for their God, and thereupon wormip him 5 it was anfwered, that precept againft not furfeting Wi-ches was fpoken to the Ifrae!ices, not to us; and will you becau(e Witches deale with a familiar Spirit 5 therefore (end them to the Devill by taking away their lives? Many Sectaries often (ay, that all the judgements of God upon us, are, becaufe we will not receive the Government of of ChriiT, fhrTer it to be ist up among us, viz, to let every one b&keve what he will, and ferve God according to his confeiencej as alfb they fay, if ever the Magiftrates (hall cotnetoufe a coer- cive pow^r in matters of Religion , then this Kingdome will bee utterly deftroyed. I might alfb relate fome ftrange paflages out of ipeeches fpoken not long fince by fame Independents as Ma- tter Sympfon in the Affembly, and el fe where too, for a Toleration, but I forbeare, and wifh the Reader to remember fjmepafTages related in foregoing pages of this Book, efpecially that in page" 175. 2, Many of the Independents and Sectaries of thefe times are guilty of many kinds cfuncleanneffes^Firfr, of Inceft, of which out of one Country I have the names of three fent me up, and at- tended by the hand of a godly Minifter, one who married the mother, and afterwards the daughter, claiming this liberty of cob- fcience 5 another marrying his owne brothers wife, and she third marrying his brothers wife : I have beene informed al(b for cer» taine by a Gentleman of quality in Kent, that a great Sectary in Kcnrhztb married his Neece: It hath been related to me alfo of one in London guilty of thelike kind; but Imaynot enlarge, ha- ving exceeded already the number offhests Iintendedfand having yet many things to fpeakof. Secondly , of wicked and ungodly Bb 2 marriages 1 88 A New and further Difcovery of the marriages, leaving their owne husbands and wives, and taking o» thers to live with them,, as Mailer Jmney and Miftrlffe An away . and fo that New- England Captaine who was about another wife* his wife being living , of which the Reader may read page £4* and fo others of them living wholly from their wives, not com lug at them, denying they have been married to them, or elfe faying they are unbeleevers, and of the world, of which 1 could give {lories, as of ons M. and in a precedent page of this Book the Reader may flnde more 5 And for ungodly marriages fome- Se£hrie9 are guilty of entifing children to marry unequally in regard of yeers, and without Parents confents, taking advantage, of ficknefle, &c. of which there is a remarkable (lory in this book of zMary. Abraham a notorious Se&ary, page 82, 83, 84, 85. And lately a Widow* an Anabaptift about forty yeers of age , intan- gled and inveagled a youth of about nineteene yeeres of age,and married him without hie father ever knowing or imagining any, fuchthing; This youths father lives in £»>i*i>/»/ parifh, and Mr*. Knowli the Anabaptift fas tis fa\d) married them. Thirdly, of rapes and forcing young maidens too young for the company of men, of which I could tell feme fad (lories of Independents in. New England in this kind, and upon who(e daughters; but I for- beare our of my refpeft to the Parents. Fourthly, of adulteries . and fornications, and if I mould here fet downe all the inftan- cesinthis kind that I have had from good hands, and relate the- ftories at large, I mould fillfome meets. There are divers of theDippers and mecanick Preachers of the Sectaries , not onely* fliroudlyfufpeftedforflithinefle and isncleannefles, but fome of them accused by women, and have beene fo taken as they coukL not well deny it. There is a famous Sectarian Preacher in the Iflcof Elj betweene a Cobler and a Shoemaker, who is now ac- cufed by many women for tempting them, and follici ting their chaftity,, and one woman cries out of him for being naught with her, and is diftra&ed upon it. There is a Fidler here in Lon- don a greac preacher, to whom many women refbrt , that hath beene taken in the ac\ and hath in a manner confeffed it. There is one of the firft Dippers in England, one of the firft that brought up the trade, of whom I heard a modeft and good woman fay that had obferved his filthy behaviour (he referring often to. her Errors and Proceedings of the Seclar/es. jSp her houfe upon fome acquaintance formerly betweene her huf* band and him, though indeed for the wives fake as fhe plainly difcovered, and Co could not endure him) chat ic was no wonder he and many fuch turned Dippers to dip young maids a^id young c^ women naked, for ic was the fitteit trade to ferve their turns tha t could be 5 and no queftion but ic was found out and propaga- ted with fo much induftry as being fed by luft, that a company of uncleane men under the pretence of Religion, might have there- by faire opportunities to feed their eyes full of adultery in behold* ing young women naked, and in handling young women naked, being about them in dreflSng and undrefling them 5 and indeed Saint P^er fpeaking andprophecyingof the Anabaptifts, 2 Spift. chap. 2> verfe ic, 1 1, 1 2. ('viz. tbofi who dtjpife Vominivn, and fteak evilloj Dignities, as we fee our Anabaptifts do of all Kingly go- vernment, and Lordly governmenc,de(pifing both King and Lords, and being prefu tr.pt uous and (elf- willed in ir,as is evident by their fayings and doings,) tells us the(e men are uncleane perfcw, walk inluftsofuncleannefle, have eyes fuUof adultery that cannot ceafi from finne, and that he makes the ground of their beguiling unfla* hkfoHlesjvtrfe. 1 4, Tis obferved there have been and are a company of lufty young men becweene twenty and and thirty yeeres~ of age <=cp$ that are Dippers, and their cheif commodicy they trade in, is in young maidens and youdg women, and that in the night oft- times, and chefe fellowes living in idlensfle, going from Country to Country, being feafted and well fed, and having xon verfe fo much with women in preaching to them alone,and warning them, what can be expected el(e but a great deale of filthinefle? and thereupon I have beene toldic from a godly Minifter who came outofthofepartsinEjJe*, where Oits hach beene dipping , chat it was fpoken of by many, that fome young women who having, beene married divers yeeres, and never were wich child^ow fince. their dippingjare proved with child. There was a Sectaries wife, with me who mowed me feverall Lecters wriccen from Sectaries co other mens wives,Se ft aries, co cempc them from their husbands • fhee had intercepted theLeccers that (hee might the better disco- ver her husbands naughtinefle, fhee told me the names of the wo- men snd of the men, andintreated me to move fome Parlu. men that there might be a Committee appointed, and fhee would pro- duce- ipo A New and further Bifcoveryof the duce the Letters, bring wkntffes that fhould upon oath difcover fuch uncleannefles and wickedncfles among fbme Anabaptifts and Seekers as could hardly be beleeved: I moved a worthy Member of the Houfe of Commons about it, who told me the Houfe was full of publike bufineffes and would hardly intend to appoint any ■fich Commictee3 and if the Houfe mould, there would cGme lit- tle ofit, for thefe Sectaries would finde fuch freinds at a Commit- tee, as it mould go hard but they would obftruft it one way or c- cher. There is a famous (hee Se&ary, an Antinomian, and an A- nabaptift that living in ones houfe here in Lor.don^ was a meanes to turn th z woman of the houfe, and (hee being converted , did highly extall this Senary for her rare gifts 'and new light to all fliee converted with, but this woroans husband coming out of the Army, this famous Sectary was naught with him, and they were taken in the aft 5 this is knowne to many in London^ and fbme to whom fhee had io commended her, askt her what fhee thought now. In Bermondfty Paiifh there is a Sectary hath committed a« dultery with another mans wife, and for it he hath beene before a Juftice of Peace, and could not deny if. There is an Inde- pendent Preacher who hath k&ured in arrd about London one of M.GreenbilsChurch( as tis commonly Md) who hath carried him- felfe unchaftly towards a young woman having a husband an old man,and towards a young maiden who was to warm his bsd after Preaching, he did things unfeemly, and would have gone further, but the married wife acquainted her husband, abominating this young Independen^iayingjdoes he thinke I am fuch a one as to be bis wfaore>and the young maiden to reiift him burnt his hands with the warming-Pan to keep him off from her. There are divers other inftances of their uncleannefie and filthines;but I muft referve them for a fourth part, and wifh the Reader for theprefent with thefe here related to joyne other fuch relations of the fc&aries unclean- nefTes as are mentioned in the former parts of Gangrma^d in pre- cedent pages of this third part, 3 .Many of the Sectaries in thefe times are given to drink and wil fie tipplingall the day5there are divers Se&arianTroopers faulty in this kind.-I have been told a ftory of thedrunkennes of anlndepen- dent Captain in the Army, and of the complaint againft him, and how he was brought offand continued in his command for at thar, but Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries, ipZ but cis too large to relate particulars. A gcdly Mbifter eels me of a fpeciall freind of his3 that is fallen to be a drunkard and a for fince turned an Independent. I have beene told a ftory of an Indepen- dent^ member of a famous Independ. Church here in London tthzz was taken drunk in th i night by the Watch , and carried to the Counter, and next morning carried before an Alderman, Many other inftances there are,with inftances of many drunkards turning Independents and Anabap:ifts,but I mud pafe them by for prefent, 4, Many Sectaries and Independents are very loofe in the ge- nerall courfe of their lives, and take a great deaie of liberty, which the Presbyterians dare not take, neither did they before they turned Independents : many of them make little of the Lords day, nothing at all of Faft dayes^norof Thankfgiving dayes, not of the&frh of November; many of them will play at Cards and Ta- bles, and ufe liberally other kind of fports and recreations; they will plead for going to Phyes, and thoufands of them are carekfie iu all holy duties, cafting of Prayer, finging ofpfalmes, reading the Scriptures , repeating of Sermons, infiru&ing their families 5 yea, many are not afhamed to (peak againfi them: I have beene told for certaine there are Se&aries will fvveare by their tender ^rg conferences, and all the Sectaries generally take more liberty in brave and fafhionable apparell, in long haire, in jetting and laugh* ing, in loofe and idle difcourfess then godly ftrift Chriilians nfe to take, many of them preach feldomsr then before turned Inde- pendents,aid will have a care they take not too much palnes* 5. Mmy Sectaries are veryguil:yin cofening and deceiving both the publike and particular pe: fons : I am perfwaded if all that the Sectaries have cozened the State in, of monyes that they have received and never brought in, ofmoneyspaid them for fucft ierv'ces which they never performed, of monyes paid them for bad commodities, and not valuable, were known, it would amount to a great mafTe of money : I have been told divers {lories from good hand-, of moneys received m Kent by Sectaries and never brought in to the publike but pocketed up, ofc fome Sectarian Chapiaines tha have received for pay good (iimms of money, and never ga\feche Regiments to which they belonged a Sermon, or ever looked after chem , of two Sectaries ihat would have hi -v red a poor mm to haveftverne falfly againft a woman one Miftris &0 ip,2 A New and further Difcovery of the • ■ B. by which they hoped to have gotten fiftie pounds,ofa greac Independenr,who mingled with Silver bafe mettle, of lead, brafle, iron, and (o carried it into the Tower in great Ingots tote melt- ed 5and to have money according to the weight of if, and is now in queftion for it he being at J aft found out ; but I cannot ft and to enlarge any furthered the Reader may find more inftances in this kind in the Appendix of thefitft pzaoiGangrtf&a, and in this third partj/^ge 25, and 26. 6. The Sectaries are guilty ofgrolfe lying, flandring3 jug- ling, falsifying their word and promifes, id that a great Book would not contain the particulars, and I have thoughts to fet them forth in a Tractate by themfelves: I could relate at large noto- rious lyes raifed by fome of them of godly Mininers of the At fembly and City, of which not the leaft colour or ground for, as alfo prornifcs and engagetnenrs made by (bme ofthem to perfons of worth, Minifttrs and others, upon their coming in and being chofen for places, which they have not only not performed, but afterwards boldly denyed any fuchproroifes, with many things of this kind. I could tell alfo of propagating and fupporung the credit of the Independent party by many lies told in Pulpits, writ- ten in Letrers, and printed on purpose of the great valour and gal- lantry of fuch and luch Sectaries in the Army , when as Presbyte- rian Commanders performed thefe very (e-rvjees ; and of many Relations Printed of (Iich and fach unworthy things done by Presbyterian forces and Commanders, when no luch matter; but I mult forbeare parriculars, and for preient do referre the Reader to Mailer Pryns Lyar fori founded, to Mafter Calamus Anfwer, and Aplogie againft Mafter 'Barton^o Doctor Baftmek* Books written againft the Independents, and particularly his Book written a- gainft Lilbnrm> and his laft Book entituled The utter-ronting of tit whole A?my of the Independents and Seftiries* page 357,358. 7. The Sectaries are guilty of exceilive pride, boafting and •trull ing in Armes of flefli, as in that Army under Sir Thomat Fair- fax 5 I do not think that in this latter age of the world, the greac Tuck, the Spaniard, or any other Nation, have gloried and trufted more in anyone Army of theirs , or attributed greater things to it then the Independents have done to that which they call theirs? ,0 how ftrangely have they boafted and trufted in it3 as if humane things Err ours anc( Proceedings of the Sectaries. 193 things were not changeable, as if chat Army could conquer all the world,recover the Palatinate^lreland^nd give Laws to France^ Lorraine,ConflAutiwpley&c. and do whatfoever they pleafed ; I have beene told from an honeft and faithfull Commander in the Army, that Matter Feterj (peaking of the Army, faid, they wan- ted nothing but more Nations to conquer, and his folly in this kind is extant in print, of which the Pveader may find fomeAni- madverfions upon it by me in the 133, 134. 14.2. pages of this Book. I might fill a Book in relating the pafTages in Difccurfes, Sermons, and printed Books, fpoken in way of boatting of this Ar- my and of particular perfons belonging to it of the Independent way, calling cne Infallible, the Saviour of three Kingcomes ; a fecond,the Terrible, a third.. whom God hath efpecial!y £ tted for Sea or Land, one whom foraigne States would be proud of ha- ving fuch a fervanr, and to of others ; but I will only p; int at fome expreffiunsin a Iare Book of Matter Burtons, called Conformities Deformity, wherein the Army is in a fort deified, page 17,18. [peak- ing of pretting the Parliament for an Ordinance againft Herefes and Schifmes, he (peaks what this Ordinance would do againlt thofe men who have prodigally poured their deareft bloud, viz. trample upon them, and not fuffer them to breath in their native aire, and thereupon runs out in the extolling of that fort of men in the Army ,that by them we yet brejtb, that they have heme the pre- firven of the "Land, that many gbriotu victories bavi made them admi- rable to the neighbour Nations, yea to ihe wfole world, and terrible to their pro] effed enemies andean- yea, and to pretended freinds toe, who would mafler w at home} were not theft mafters ofthefeild : God hath made them the great inftrnmmts q) the prefervation and deliierance of our Country and City from the moft dejperate bloudy and heaftiaU enemies that ever the earth bred, or hell hatched, God hath vouch fafed to cjfl great favour and honour upon them, and as he hath crownedthem &itb fo much glory, and they have caft their crownes at the feet of the Lamb that fits upon the Throne : So mould we come and firfi gL ving all the glory to God, gather up thofe crownes^ and fit them upon the heads of ibfe our Pnftrvers ari "Deliverers , and put chains about their necks \ fo far off fheuld we be from trampling fuch Pearles under feet, or cafiing them out of our Gates and Ports. 8. The Sectaries are guilty of unfufferable Infokncies, horri- Cc Me 1^4 d New and further Dffcoverj cf the ble affronts to Authority, and of ftrange outrages., having done thofe things, that all things confidered, no itory of former ages eanparaleli \ andhereX have fo large a feild than I might write a Book in Folio upon this head, but I will only give a touch upon the particulars,and referre the Reader for further fa* hfaction to their owne Books, n Some of" the Se&aries have fpcken and written that againft the Lawes of the Land, both Common and Statute, as I beleeve neither Papiftsmor any Englifh men ever did before them : I have read divers parages of this kind , in divers Pamphlets within theie two 'laft veers,- as in fome books written *A help to the again II Mafter *Pryn, but above all5 Leiutenant Colonell Lilburrze right under- jn ^ J^sf mans J unification, page 11,12, lz, 14, I<. and A Difcourfecon- Kemonitranceto their owne Houle or Commons, />*g* 13-. 15, 19, cerning inde. damns the Common Law as coming from the Devi!!, and being the pendencie, great bondage of England, the Norman Yoake, as the Reader may Pa§es*?» eafilyfeeby thefe words. That which U the grealefl mifcbeife of all, and the opprejfing bondage of England ever Jincethe Norman Teak, u 'fk'fy I rnuft be tried before yen by a haw calPd the Common Law that I kgow not) nor 1 think* no man elf e> neither do Ityiow where. U fade it or read it ^ and how lean in fitch a cajs be punifhed by it, 1 k^ow not : fitch an unfathomable gulfe have I by a little ft arch found the Law pra&ifes zra Weftminfter Hal! to be, that ferioujly I tbinh^ there Is neither end norbottomeof themyfo many uncertainties, formaii- HtieSypun^iilios^and thai which if worfe, all the entries and proceedings in Latiney a Language 1 under fi and not, nor one of a ihoxfand of my, native Countiy-men , fo that when 1 read the Scripture, it makes me thinke that the pratlijls in the Courts at Weftminfter flow not from Gcd nor from his Liwy nor the Law of Nature and Reajon, no nor yet from the underftanding of any righieotM, jujl or homfl men \ but from the DeviU, and the will of Tyrants. The Kings Writs that fummons a Parliament, implying the eflablijbment 0/ Religion ,fhowes that werc- maine under the Norman yoafy of an unlawful! power from which we oght to free our felves* Te know the L*wes of this Natim are un± worthy a free people , and deferve from firft to lajl to be confedered, and ferioujly debated, and reduced to an agreement with common equity and right reafen, which cught to be the forme and life of every Govern" meat. Magna Char ta it felfe beingbuta beggerly thing, containing many mark? of intolerable bondage , and th Lawes that have beent \ made Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. Ipy made fince by Parliaments have in very many particulars made cm Government much more opprejjive and intolerable. ' The Conqueror e- re&ed a trade of Judges and Lawyers to fell juflice and injuftke at his owne uncortfcionable rate, and in what time hepleafed* the cor- ruption whereof h yet upon m $ from whit h we thought yon fhould have delivered us , we cannot hut expeel to he delivered from the Norman bondage , and from all time i finable hiwes made ever fince that unhappy conqnefo By which paflages tis evident the Sectaries aime at a retail change of the Laws and Cuftomsof this Kingdom. 2. They have fpoken and written much againfhhe King, fpeaking of him as a Delinquent, terming him the; great Delinquent : and that he mould not come in but as a Delinquent ; when news hath beene of meflages and gracious offers from the King, and when bis late Letter to the City was fpoken of, they have {lighted all, faying we can have them without him, and what can he do for us? he is a Delinquent. They have taken one of his titles from him and given it to that unworthy mean man Lilbttrne, (tiling him Z)c- fendor of the Faith • they have taken other of his Titles, as Sove- raign>Leige Lord^Adajefly^KwgfhipyRcgality^nd given them to the H. ofCommons,andto the common peopleanaking the Univer- sal! people to be the King & Greator3and the King their meer crea- ture,fei vant and vafialj and as they have taken from him Ih Titles, fo his power, denying him allLegiflative power?andtpbeone of the Effaces of Parliament, yea they have pleaded for the King to bedepofed, and juffice tobedoneupon htm as the grand mur« thererof England, and not only that he fliould bee beheaded^ but the Kingdomealfo,^.. this Kingdome deprived of a King for ever, and Monarchic turned into Democracie. And as they have endeavoured toll rip him of all his Titles and power as a King, fo to take from him all priviledges as a man and a Chriffi- an, (peaking againft Minifters praying for him, and that he (houid be excommunicated from all Chriftian fociety^ For proofe of which particulars let the Reader read over the late *Remonitrance * A Ftmphlez of many thoufand Ciciznes to their owne Houfe of Commons, ^ flikd ty the and among other paflages, that mpage 6. h u high time we he plaint ^^"cs* with you .; we are not, nor pall not he fo contented that irntH t0 &* Inhabitant oj Lender* 9 with divers fuch like,, onlyYroenUon 3 ^ne Sectaries have fpoken, written, done much againft the thispriviledge Houle of Peeres,the fupreme Judicature of this Kingdome, that of a Court of Houfe which gives to the Parliaments of England^ the denomi- Record and natjon 0f fa + High Court of Parliament, as tis a Court of Ser°!anVy Recorc^ and having power of judicialltriall by oath,&c. of the oath "againft greateft (ubj.Sts of this Kingdome in the greateft matters, as life, die Seftaries eftates, liberty , whofe Tribunall and Power hath ever beene ac« who fo under, knowledged and dreaded in this Kingdom in all times by the great- vcluethe pow. Qfc peeres and perfons of the Land, and when queftioned by them, in VeirPam- have given all high refpeft and humble iubrni(fion5 as we fee that phlets, and or- great Favorite the Earle of Strafford d\d3yet this Supreme Court dinary dik hath bsene by word and deed fo ufed by bale unworthy fonnes of eoutfes. t{je eartj,5 gg tjj€ rneaneft Court in England or gcttieft Gonftable never Err ours and Proceedings of the Se&aries. 197 never was cill chefe times 5 and certainly the ages to come who (ball read the Hiftory of chefe times,and the Books of the Se&aries Written this laft yeere againft the Houfe of Lords, will wonder at our times, and inquire what exemplary punilhment was done up- on them : The fa&6 of fonie Se&aries (abetted and pleade for all (o by other of their fellows) have been thefe.T. Refufing upon the Summons > Warrants of the Houfe of Peeres to appeare before them, and refitting to the utmoft, Co that the Officers have been ne- ceffitated to drag them and bring them by force, as Overton, who' in printis not aftimed to relate it : 2. W hen they have beene com- mitted and under cuftody,refufingto be brought by their Keepers to the Houfe of Peeres upon command of the Houfe, to anfwer to their charge , as Lilburne did , keeping bis chamber fhut, refu- fing to ccme forth,and refitting to the utmoft, Co that glad to carry him by power to the Houfe of Lords, which relation alfo Lilburnt hath printed. 3. In refufing to anfwer any quettions put them by the Houfe of Peeres. 4. In refufing to kneeie at the Barre in token of any fubmiftjon to the Houfe, or to be uncovered. 5, In appealing from, and protefting againft the Houfe of Peeres , and any power they have over them both by word of mouth and writing drawn up, and thrown into the Houfe. 6, In (topping «heir eares in a contemptuous manner, that they would not heare their charge read. 7. In reproving, (awcie taking up, and re- proaching the Houfe of Peeres to their faces in the Houfe. 8. la Petitioning the Houfe of Commons for juftice againft the Houfe of Peeres, and for reparations of dammages,ufing many reproach- full words of that Right Honourable Houfe even in their Petiti- ons, as is to be feene in Overtons, John Lilbnrms and "Elizabeth LiU hurties Petitions. 9. Threatning the Houfe of Peeres what they will do againft them if they maintaine their power and honour, and what the houfe of Commons will do. 10. Stirring up and in- citing the common People alfo to fall upon them, to pull them downe, and overthrow that Houfe. The Speeches and writings of the Seftaries againft the Houfe of Peeres within this laft fixe moneths or thereabouts, ever fince the commitment of Learner a- boutTi^ laft warning to the inhabitants of London, arefearfull and ftrange (many Pamphlets having beene written in that timej ten- ding apparently to the total! overthrow of the Houfe ofPeere*, and' 198 A New and further D if cover y of the ' I J II Ml and of having any Lords in this Kingdome, denying them all Le- giflitive and Judiciall Power, and giving it all to the Houfe of Commons, or rather to that Beaft of many heads, the common People, allowing the Commons only fo much as they pleaft5, and for io long, making them their meer deputies and fervants at will, I (hall give the Reader a few paOages out of their Books, and re- fer re for further fatisfa&ion to the Books themfelves. A Pam- phlet entituled *Xbt Juft man in Bondft writes thus, pag, 1. c The '.power of the Houfe of Lords is like a fhaliow uneven water,more « in noyfe then (ubftance, no natural! iffues of Lawes, but the ex- c tuberances and mumromes of Prerogative, the wens of Juft Go- c vernment, putting the body of the people into pain, as well as c occasioning deformity. Sons of conqueft they are and udirpati- c on, no: of choyce and election, intruded upon us by power, not c conftituted by confent, not made by the people from whom all c power, pi xe, and o^Bce that is juft in this Kingdome ought only 1 to ari(e. A Pamphlet cali'd A Peark in a Dung-hill^ pag. 3, 4. fpeaks thus : .« And why prefume ye thus, O ye Lords? Sec forth c your merit before the people, and fay, For this good it is that c we will raigne over you, Remember your felves, or fhajl we c remember ye > Which of you before this Parliament minded a- c ny thing Co much as your pleafures ? Playe6, Mafques, Feaft- * ings, Gamings, Dancings 1 &c. What good have you done fince * this Parliament and fince the expulilon of the Popiih Lords and e Biftiops ? where will yen begin ? It was wont to be (aid when 1 a thing was fpoyl'd, that the Bifrops foot had been in it j and if c the Lords mend not, it will be faid of them, and juftly too. For e what other have they been but a meer clog to the Hqufe of Com- c mons in all their proceedings ? How many neceflary things have c they obftru&ed? How many evill things promoted? What de- * vices have they had of Prudentialls and Expedients, to delay and « pervert what is good, and fubtle policies to introduce things e- c vill > The Pamphlet call'd An Alarum to the Honfe of Lords, pag.4. fpeaking of the Lords imprifoning Lilburne , and remo- ving him from Newgate to the Tower of London, faith, Whither to murther him privately from the peoples knowledge, we cannot tell* hut we judge little lejfe : And in pag*^ fpeaking of the Lords giving order that none muft fee Ulhurne in the Tower, but they muft ~ firft Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 109 fir ft give in their names, & the places of their habitation,u/es the/e words, ; An a&fo unreafbnable and deftrucYtve to us, that we c cannot but take notice of it , and let you know, That we can- f not, neither will we fuffbr fuch intolerable affronts at your 1 hands, If timely cautions will not availe with you, you muft cexpe£to be bridled; for wee are iefblved upon our naturall ^ c Rights and Free dome?,, and to be enflaved to none, now Magni- c ficent ioever with rotten Titles of Honor. For doe you imagine c there is none abroad or his mind, who though he were dead,and 'deftroyed by ycu, would profecute thofe works and difcoveries cof the Peoples Rights, which hee hath begun > Yes, more then cyou are aware of, that can, nay, and arereiblved to paint forth ' your Intereft to the life, if you will not content your (elves the 1 (boner with what's your owne, and leave the Commoners to the c Common?. The Remonitrance of many thouiands to their own Houfe of Commons, pag. 6, 7. fpeaks thus to them: c Yee muft « alio deale better with us concerning the Lords, then you have 4 done : Yeonely are chofen by us the People, and therefore in you / onely is the power of binding the whole Nation, by making, al- ^^^ * tering, or abolishing of Lawes ; Ye have therefore prejudiced us, ^ e in acting fo,as ifye could not make a Law without both the Roy- c allaflent of the King (io yearepkafed toexpreffeyGur fdvesj c and affent of the Lords; What is this but to blind our eyes that c we mould not know where our power is lodged, nor to whom we c apply our (elves for the ufe thereof; but if we want a Law , wee ; muft await till the King and Lords afTent > yet ye knowing their ' aflent tobemeerly formall, as having -no root in the choyce of c the people, from whom the power that is juft muft be derived, do c frequently importune their affint, which implies a moftgrofle c abfurdity. For where their aflent is neceflary and efTentiall,they ^muftbeasfreeasyoutoatTent^ordiflent, as their underltanding c and consciences mall guide therm, and might as jiftly importune 5 you as you them* Ye ought in confeience to reduce this cafeal- c Co to a certainty,.and nut to wafte time, and open your counfels, , € and be liable to (o many obfti uctions as ye have beene, But to * prevail with them (enjoying their Honors and poiTeffionsJ to be c liable, and fl and to be chofen for Knights and Burgefles of the 5 people, as oiher the Gentry and Free-men of this Nation doe, 'which zoo A New and further Difcevery of tie c which will be an obligation upon them , as having one and the e (ame interelt,then alfo they would be diftinguifhed by their ver- c tue and love to the Common wealth, whereas now they A& and * Vote in our Affairs but as Intruders, or as thruft upon us by c Kings to make good their Interefts, which to this day have beerej c to bring us into a flaviQicondicion to their wills. IMburnt in his F tee-mans freedom* Vindicated $. y^.^peaks thus, Imufi be forced to dance attendance contrary to Liw, to anfwer a Charge without forme or fafh.on in Law at the Barre of the Houfe of Veens , who know ve- ry well, or at leafi might know* that 1 knew as wtil at any of themfelves their power , jttrijdittion, and Prerogative Fount sine from whence they Jp ing, and call the Lords the meere Creature of the peop'es Creatures, the King, and the common people the earthly Lord and Creator of the Lords Creator $ and fiith that in the Honorable Houfe of Commons alone by right refdes theformall andlegall fupreme power of "England, 0 uerton in his Arrow pot into the Prerogative Buwels of ths Arbitrary Houfi of Lords (as he calls it) fnowes page 10. how he denied fiibjection to the Lords, affirming, that if their Officers had Jh'Wn a thoufand fuch Warrants to him at they did, he would have accounted them all illegally Antimagifteriall and void in Law, as having no power over Commoners whibh are not their Peeres, and there* upon It irs up the people to At me themfelves, fortifie tbeir houfi / , to heat, wound, and kjlltheir officers that come to fetch ihem before the Lords, and then turnes his fpeech to the Houfe of Commons, 'Why therefore mould you of the Representative body fit ftill c andfuffer thefe Lords thus to devoure both us aud our Lawes? c Be awakned, arife andconfider iheir oppreflions and encroach- f ments,and ftop their Lordfhips in their ambitious careere,for they * doe not ceafe only here,but tbey foare higher and higher , and c now tbey are become Arrogators to themielves of the naturall (b- e veraignity the Reprefented have conveyed and iflued to their * proper Reprefentors, even challenge to themielves the title of the * iupremeft Court of judicature in this Land,and mpage 1 i3i 2. 0- verton faith further, c Therefore the Soveraigne power extending c no further then from the Reprefented to the Reprefentors,al this c kind of foveraignity challenged by any, whether of King, Lords, * or others, is ufurpation* illegitimate and illegall, and none of the •c Kingdomes or peoples, neither are the people thereto obliged : e Thus Err oars and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 201 * Thus feeing the Legiflative power is only from the Repre/ented 'totheReprelentor?, and cannot poffibly further extend, the c power of the King cannot be Legiflarive, but only Executive, c and hee can communicate no more then hee hath him felf,fo c that his meere Prerogative creatures cannot have that which c their Lord and Creator never had, hath, or can have, namely the cLegi(lative power : Indeed all other Courts might as well chal* clenge that Prerogative of Soveraignity, yea better then this * Court of Lords. But and if any Court or Courts in this King- € dome (hould arrogate to themfelves that dignity to be the Su- c preme Court of Judicatory of the Land, it would be judged no c leflethen high treafbmto wit, for an inferior fubordinate powet * to advance and exalt it (elfe above the power of the Parliament. The fame Overton in a Pamphlet emituled A "Defiance agnnfi all Arbitrary ufurpJtions either of the Hwfe of Lords or any ctber, page 5. faith ,A>id though 1 be in their Prerogative clutches }and by them unjnfily caft into theprifon o/Newgate/^r finding for my owne and my Coun- tries rights and freedomest I care not who lets them hpoxv tb>t 1 ac- knowledge mm other to be the StipremeCourt of Judicature of this Land but the Houfeof Commons , the Knights and B urge ffes affem* bkdin Parliament by the voluntary choyce and free ele&ion of ibe peo- ple them fa with whom and in whofejufi defence lie live and die, maugre the malice of the Houfe of Lords : and in page 1 8, he in way of de- rifion calls the Lords Houfe the Superlative HouJey and (peaking of the Lords laughing at his anfwers,hs faith of that Houfe fuch car- riage fitch a Court; For indeed Comedies 3 Tragedies , LMaiks and Plajes are more fit for facbid/e tyndof men. And above all other Demonftrationsoftheoutragiousinfolencies of the Sectaries a- gainft the Houfe of Peeres, let the Reader perufe that Pamphlet emituled An Anatomy of the Lords tyrsnny and injufiice exercifedup* m Lieutenant Colonel Lilburne, which is throughout infblentboth for matter and manner, particularly ^*ge 12,13. LUbume writes that he being in the painted Chamber, defired Mailer Bnfco^ one of his Keeper?, to go and tell th- Lords from him, that feeing they * had the irrrpudencie and boldneile to tread the Lawes and Lib: r- c ties of England under their feet, and did fo conterrme and under- value the Authority of the Honorable Houfe of Commons to J whom he had appealed, as yet to go on in their illegall courfes D d with 202 A Nw and further Difcovery of the '"with hinij with whom by Law they had nothing to doe, that he c mutt be forced in the higheft nature he could to contemne and 'deipife their proceedings- and therefore was refolved not to c come to their Bar without a forcible compulsion and to come in d= < with his hat on his head, and to (lop his eares when they read his * charge in deteftation, and bearing witneffe againft their ufurpa- c rions and injuftice,p^e 14, 15. Liiburm writes he thus (pake to the Lords. ( And my Lords I tell you to your faces, that by right * the Hou/e of Commons are your Judges as well as mine in this * cafe, and I doe not doubt but to live to fee the day that they will ®^* e nuke you to know whether you will or no, that they are fo, and e of their juftice and protection 1 doe not in the leaft doubt i And c therefore my Lords feeing you have dealt fo illegally and tyran- * nically with me as you have done; I now bid defiance to your c power and malice to doe the Worftyou can. And therefore my ' Lords Iproteft here before the God of Heaven and earth, if you € /hall be fo unworthy as to perfevere in endeavouring the deftru- c £Hon of thefundamentall Lawesaud Liberties of England, as at gg* c present you doe,I will venture my life and bloud againft yo&to c oppofe you with as much seale and courage as ever I did any of c the Kings party, that youfet us together by the eares with : page 21, Liiburm faith all his catriage and expreffions before the Houfe of Lords in the cafe now betwixt them to be as juftifiable by the Law of this Kingdome, and in the eyes of all underftanding men as for a true and juft man to draw his (word, and cut the theif or £$» rogue that lets upon him upon the highway on purpofe to rob him of his life and goods , and in page 23. hee earneftly be- feeches the Honorable Committee to remember the Commoners, and improve all their intereft topunifh, or at leaft effe&ually to curb the Lords Houfe. Thus the Sectaries in their Petitions and all their Pamphlets printed , (peaking of the Lords Houfe and of their proceedings* they give fuch kind of termes as thefe, Barbarous, Tyrannical!, Arbitrary, Illegal!, unjuft dealings, worfe then the unjuft Scar- chamber it felfe , Infolenc unheard of ufurpations , intrufions, and many fuch like. And in divers Pamphlets now of late the Parliament being fpoken of, is underftood only the Commons o£ England Jk they call'd the Parliament by way of exclufion of and oppofition Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries* 203 oppoficion to theH,ofPeers,and Books written on purpofe and di- iper/ed,given freely to ftrr up the people co adhere co the Comorrs as confidered apart and diiHn&in intereft, power from the Lords, with unworthy reflexions upon the Lord?, ss The laft warning to all the Inhabitants oj ? London^ ,7, zJAindyonr own gicd,:nd ckave fafi to the Hcufe oj Commons, Ut nojorcery or fophiftry divide you from themjkt Lords are not to go before the Commons in determining what concerns the Nations ;their layge anfiver to your la ft City Tuition fit 'Church- governments and fupprejjfion of Conventicles infinuaUs they would al- lure you from the Commons \ therefore obfirvs them watchfully, and truft them accordingly. So A word in jet fin to aU forts of well* minded pe pie in this diftra&ed Nation, with Anfvvers to the Ci- ty Remonitrance,and divers ocher Pamphlets. 4» The Sectaries have been guilty of and daily are of abufing, contemning, and taking away the pow^r of the Houfe of Commons given it by ■■ theLawe^ConftkutionsandCuftomesof this Kingdome , and though in many Pamphlets (efpecially this laft yeere) they cry up the Houfe of Commons , and feeme to give them not only their owne power, fcut the power of the King and Houfe of Lords, making both them meere ciphers ; yet it will be found by many of their principles hid downe, they have deftroyedtbe Houfe of Commons, and doe break their Priviledges, fpeak their pleafure of them both by words and writing as often as they pkafe. rVfcny Pamphlets and whole Bckshave beene written by Sectaries a- gainfe the Houfe of Commons it felfe,('and not only againft Com- mittees or particular Members^ charging the Houfe with tyranny, injuftice, oppreiTion, horrible pride, feeking of particular inte- refts, Arbitrary Government, breaking of Magna Chart a , and go- ing againft the Liberties cf the fubje & , refembling them to the Scar-chamber, High Commidion Court, to Strafford and Canter- 'bury, refuting to anfiver any queftions upon the command of the Houfe, fcornlng to Petition the Commons either to fue for their favour, or to acknowledge their juftice ; and afcer fuch favour ftown as to releafe without petitioning, yet taxing chem with d\f- honefxy, and demanding reparations for imprifonment ; for the abundant proofe of which I referre the Reader to many Pam- phlets written by Sectaries, as Englands forthright , The Copie of a Letter from Lieutenant Colonel Lilburm to a freind, LIU Dd 2 bur ws 2 t*f d Xem md (''■*•' it D:"::\ tr> of :he - •'■'■ c:h:r Le::er? rrinted about that time : An;:':-:r rrerd to the : . ■ !. T • ' ■; -''#bj: f : A pamphlet enticuled An «c- .■r?c --:/•:- ;-: 5 riisvr:}: R!Tx:r;frj>iccf,Vtch''Jti:->:si&c. A ■; Ez;. ' -fZ:^.m:ns; out :1 which I'mail tVr.h.'c ly:rar.l:r;belbT.epairages,:hacthein(bknciej of the Se« Scries againf: :u; Houfe of C emmons may be chief ved. Lilburn his Leu-cT :o bis freind writes rhus./-*^ x3 :. That Mailer Cor- . ig i2 the chaire, and celling him he was commanded by the Kou!e :o demand acuefticnofhim, Llbtrn inftead of anfwering m, ce:::=d to know the caufe ot his commicroenc.and M. C^&i* replying, the Houfe was not bound to declare unto him the caufe of hi: :cmmi:ment3 thereupon LUlum anfwered, cThen I have 1 b.ene a lengtime miftaken , for had I thought that the Parlia- ' men: had had no rule but their owne will to have walked by, I ' Lhould never have drawre my fword for them $ and for my part c I kcw no difference betwixt tyranny andfuch proceedings- ther- ( fore I pray read the Petition of Right, and the Ad made this pre- Men: parliament that condemned the Scar-chamber and High 6 Commilion. Pjge 5. bee writes as followes, c Time was when cthe Parliament had to doe with the King, and had the BiChop*, '- Star-ch amber and High Comm ;r.on to pJldowne, they would e owne me and da roe jufiice, Sec. but having ferved their owne ; turnes ::' me. I never could have jufticerrom themfince., though ; I chirk I haT. e beer.e ai faichfull a fervant to the Common-wealth < as any they ever ire ployed ; and whereas Msgu Charts faith, 1 juftice and right we w: 1 deny to rxne,nor we will defer to none, c yet have I waited ihefe fcure yeeres upon them at great ex pen- ( ces, and cannot get chem to put their owne Votes in execution: c and if this be according to Magu Cbdrta, let the world judge. And;. re. fpeaking of the H. of Commons committing him,faitb, Li= { G brave times; and brave joftke? and yet for all this, I fay, my. 'refaction is to ttand fait in the liberty and freedome wherewith : Migzi CLj-tJ and the Petition of Eight and ievera'ii Acts made 'cr.isprefenc Parliament, as alfo divers late Declarations have c made me free., and not to be in tangled againe with any yoake of ; saiage tha; (hail be hung about my neck by any kind of Tyrant bv Err ours and Proceedings of the SeSaries. 2 o J c by what name or title foever he be dignified or diftingui fried. Matter Mujgtavt a great Separatiftfas he (hows himfelf in ma- ny paffages of his Book emhuled Another word to the mfe) writes thus of the Houfe of Commons. 'Courteous Reader, thou maift c very much wonder at the delatory and flow proceedings of the c Houie of Commons in doing juftice and right , from whom the * Commons of England may juftly expect more then from any Ju- dicatory, being they are immediatly chofen by them; and to 4 fpeak properly are no more but their Stewards and fervants, for ' whofe good and benefit all their actions ought to be extended : * Yet by their poceedings daily we feetis in vaine to ex pe ft Juftice 1 from them,fo long as they are linked and glued in factions each to ^5 1 other by their private interefts in their great places, which ties * all fuch amongft them to maintaine one another in all their unjuft * wayes, and to oppreffe and crufh us as much as they are able, all « the proiecutors of juft and righteous things, and fo to barre and 1 flop juftice that it (hall have little or no progrefle, divers of them ('and no man knowes how to call them cto account, unlede they deale with them as the Romans fome- f times dealt with their Senators, or as the Swkzers dealt with 'their Tyrants^) for the money is the Kingdomes, and not the 6 Members of the Houfe of Commons; and the Kingdome ought 6 in jufHce, reafbn, and right, to have a publick, punctual], and c particular account of it $ and therefore it ought not to be in the c hands or fingers of thofe that are able to make (b great a faction, c as are able to protect them from juftice, and an exa& account. O * that that gallant man Lieut. General! CromrreU f to whom the * Kingdome for their prefervation under God oweth (6 much) c would a little more deny himfelfe, and ceafe to be a (talking 'horfejand a dangerous prefident of moft dangerous confequence f to thefe wicked mercinary Pluralifts,Non»refidentary great place cmen Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 207 < men, for whom an Hofpitall of any great confequence cannot « fall but they muft be Governors of it 5 nor a petty place in the « peuy bag office, but they muft get inco it: which men, if the c Kingdome would rightly confider it, have juft caufe to difclaime c as none of their Patrons, but proclaims as their enemies and de- c (trover*, being pecuniary felf-ieekers. For (b long as Parliament c men can get into their hands the richss and treafures of the Ktng- « dome, and live like Kings ?nd Emperors, and like lawlefle men, ^ c none fuch being of Gods creation, there will never be an end of ( this Parliament, which by its everlafting continuance, by the a- cbufes of lawlefle and rotten-hearted men, will become the raoft c abfolute burthen and greateft oppreffion that ever was upon the *£# fi people 5 when as in times by pafr, it ufed to be their only reme- * dy from their oppreffion and oppreflbrs. In a Pamphlet entitu- led, let another word to the wife, there's a Letter directed To Mafltr* John Mufgrave, cbofin to prefint the Countries greivances to the Hottfe of Commons, which Letter (peaks thus. c But the Houfe of Com- 'monsinftead of hearing and redreffing your greivances, have ad- ' ded new greivances unco thofe which formerly you- have fuflfered * in their owne quarrell againft the common enemy, they haveun- * juftly imprifoned you thefe laft t welve moneths, protected Tray- c tors among themfelves from the Law,&c. Yet we (hall rather c with tears leek their repentance then their perfifting in fuch cour~ c (es, feeing they are placed in Iawfull authority, and have a good * Caufe, though they ieeke too much their owne, &e. And as for c their lamentable (iibmiffion to the Bimops fervants the Presby te- 4 rian Synodians in eftablifhing that wil- worfhip and Popifti main* *tenance,which now themfelves doe well know to be jure dttbolW c cc, through thefe blind guides their Diviners and Southfayers in- c ability toanfwer their Queres whereby to prove themfelves jure 'divino, furelyif they will notwithstanding obftinatly perfiit in c /uch wilfull, dangerous, and unwarrantable courfes, they will ■ c doubtlefle (how themfelves to be fighters againft God, his truth *and people to their owne deftru&ion without fpeedy converfion. In a Pamphlet entitukd Liberty againft Slavery y there's a Letter written by a Seftary calFd An excellent Letter , written by a prifoner to a worthy Member of the Houfe of Commons , where 3re thefe paflages ; c O, where is juftice? may not thefe royall 6 plunderers zo8 A New and further Difc&very of the c plunderers as well juftifie all their Robberies and Depravations, {£?* c as either our Houfe of Commons or the Houfe of peeres thefe c kinds of imprif cements and commitments > Nay, is it not the * greateft in} ultice when done under the colour of juftice. Sir, I c allure you, it were leffe greivous unto us to die at once then to € be thus inflaved and famiihed inyourcruell prifen houfes, where c weareexpofed toallmifery, contempt, obloquie and fcorneof c the word men, and thereby the hearts of our wives and aged Pa- ( rents broken with greif. Sir,he pleafed to coniiderhow by thefe c and the like doings the affections of many thousands of people c is eftranged from you, who have formerly adventured all to up- € hold you in your authorities ; and if this ccurfe be continued, * we (hall not, we cannot thinke and fay leffe then that the Parlia- * ment (and not the Prerogative,) makes us a bondage and mifera- cb!e people. And fome already do not fpare to fay that the Parlia- ^ 'mentis now become the burthen of the Kingdome. You were e intrufted by the people for their good, and not for the continua- c tion of their thraldome ; let us then have juftice, which without e mowing your (elves to be moft unjuft men, you cannot any lon- c ger deny us. The Pamphlet entituled England* Birth-right ,page 3 3. fpeaking of the Commons in Parliament, faith, c By which ma- * nifeft abufing, negligent, and not true ufing the La wes, oppreffi- * ons, mifcheifes, greivanccs, are no leffe (if not far more) increased *then they were before the Parliament began ; and many times by 0=> c the powerfull intereft of a faction in the Parliament to fave fome c one, two or three of their Members undeferving credits, they (o £ violate the knowne, unrepealed and declared Law of the Land, cyea and their owne Votes, Ordinances, Declarations andProte- c ftations, as if they had never made them : I fay, all thefe things * confidered, ought not the free men of England, who have labou- * red in thefe deftroying times both to preferve the Parliament and * their owne native freedomes and birth-right?, not only to chufe 'new Members where they are wanting once every yeer,but ahoto c renew and inquire once a yeere after the behaviour and carriage * of thofe they have chofen. Lilburm in that Pamphlet of his calFd Innocency and Truth juftified, page 75. fpeaks thus of the Houfe of Commons. c But it may be you will fay the Houfe of Commons f is not at leafure by reafbn of publick; I anfwer, leffe then an hours ciime Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. -2 op 4 '-time will ferve my turne in this particular, and tis very fkangein c 5. veers (pace Co much time cannot be found from the publick to tranfmic my bufjnesjfure I am they can find time enough to fettle great 8c rich placs upon (ome of ihemfelves.and to enjoy chem for al * their owne Ordinances to the contrary; yea, and I know fome of them hath plurality of place> , and I fay the thing Idefire of them is more Juftlymy due then any of their great places are * theirs, and therefore I hope they have no true caufe to be angry with me for craving juflice at their hands; Andpage 37. Ia^n ab- folutely of this mindj that neither a Commitcee of the Houfe of ' Commons, nor the whole Houfe of Commons together can 4 juftly imprifon me, or any other contrary to a Law which at pre- sent there is not fcmeOrdi nance made both by them and the Peers * publick at pre(ent to overthrow it.But I have feverall times been x imprifoned by the Committees , and by Voce of the Houfe of « Commons it (el fe contrary to a knowne Law made this prefenc c^-j ^Parliament by themfeives , againft which there is at prefent nD c Ordinance publimed and declared by them and the Peeres for the « Cognizance of: Fsgo9l fay they are tied in juftice according to * tenor of this Law, to give me reparations againft thofe perfons * that were cheife inftruments either in Committees, or in the * Houfe ofjCommons it ielfe3 to Vote and take away my Liberty * from me, contrary to this Law,and for my part I doe according- c Iy expect my reparations for my late caufelefjfe moleitadons and *& € imprifonments. A pamphlet enthuled^ Remonftance to their owm Houfe of Commons, page 1 r. fpeakes thus to the Honorable Common?. f For we muft deale plainly with you, ye have long * time a&ed more like the Houfe of Peers then the Houfe of Com- € mons : we can fcarcely approach your doore with a reqaeft or mc- €tion, though by way of Petition, but ye hold long debates, whe- * ther we break not your Priviledges : The King or the Lords c pretended Prerogatives never made a greater noife,nor was made c more dreadfull then the name of Priviledge of the H >ufe of Com- £mons. Your Members in all Impofu ions muft not be taxed in * the places where they live like oiher men : Your fervants have *their priviledges too:To accufe or profecute any of you is become < dangerous to the profecutors,* Ye have imprifonments asfre- E e c quently, 2 to A New and farther Difcovery of the . ( c quently, for either witnefles or profecutors , as ever the Scar* < chamber had 5 and ye are furnifhed with new devifed arguments §3=. *to prove, chat ye only may juftly doe thofe grofle injulHces c which the Star chamber, High CommiiTion, and Gouncel-board 1 mightnotdoe. Yee now frequently commit mens perfons to c,prifbn without mowing caufe : Ye examine men upon interro- * gatories and queftions againft themfelves, and imprifbn them for crefufing to anfwer : Yee have entertained to be your Commit- * tees fervancs^ thofe very prowling Varlefs that were employed * by thofe un juft Courts, who took pleafure to torment honeft * confcionable people 5 yea, vexe and raoleft honed men for mat-? 'ters of Religion and differences with you and your Synod in ^ c judgement, and take upon you to determine of Doctrine and Difc £o=» « cipline, approving this, and reproaching that, juft like unto for- * mer ignorant politick and fuperft itious Parliaments and Convo- c cation?. So page j 7. Truly tis a fad thing, but too true, a plaine € quiet minded man in any place in England is juft like a harmlefle *flieepin a thicket, can hardly move or ftir but he (hall be ftretched < andlofehis wooll: fuch Committees have ye made in all Cities < and Countries, and none are fo ill ufed as honeft godly men. Yee 4 have now fate full 5.yeers,which is 4.yeers longer then we inten- c ded,for we could chufe you but for (at moftj one yeer; and now c we wifti ye would publifh to all the world the good that you have * done for us,the liberty you have brought us unto,&c. And if ye be- c leeve there is a God, ye muft beleeve it, and if ye do beleeve irP 8 confider the wayes ye have trod,and truly repent,(how it by walk- ' ing contrary to what ye have done, or pur poled to do, and let us * quickly and fpeedily partake thereofjfor God is aGod that taketh c vengeance, and will not iuffer you to go on toyourruine. And as in thefe and many other printed paflages, the Seftaries ihow their infolencies againft the Houfe of Commons, (b they de- clare their infolencies in feverall other particulars, as Firft , in going with a high hand againft Votes pafled inthatHoufe; for inftance, when a paflageinaLetterfenttothe Houfe of Commons after Nazeby fight about liberty of confci- ence,was upon debate Voted and Ordered by the Houfe to be left out, and was not in the Copies printed by command of the Houfe; ihe Errows and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 2 * I the Se&aries prefently printed chat pa{fage5and befides bare print- ingitjdid k with a blaming of them who left it out in the Letters printed , and being printed h was fet up upon Church doores co make it more publick, ttz. the Churches of greateft refort of peo- ple, azatStep-ry at the time of Matter Burroughs preaching, and printed in a meet with fome motives to the Presbyterians for liberty of conference at the end of it, as a palTage infucha Let- ter written by fjch a man (whofe name I forbeare printing.) Secondly, in fcoffing at and writing againft thepriviiedges of Members of the Houfe of Commons, and declaring themlelves againft thole provides of exemptions made of Members in the Houfe of Commons uporr any Ordinances, as that of Account^ &c. declaring -they are as free as any Members of that Houfe, and that they ought not to fee in bondage to any Law or Ordi- nance that they will noc (land to, declaring againft theirs and their Servants freedome fromarefts, fuuF,ckc. divers fcofring pafTages to which purpofe the Reader may finde in Lilbums innocency and truth jnflified, and other Pamphlets above named. Thirdly in taking notice of publickly, and publifhing in print matters in the Houfe under debate and deliberation there, before agreed on and refolved, yea and fpeaking their pleafure of iuch things, and branding the Merrbsrs who have brought in, or fpoken to fuch things, of which there are many inftances, as in the Ordinance for the preventing of the growing and fpreading of Herefies, Blafphetnies, brought into th? Houfe of Commons,, they printed it, they made Obfervations, Animadverfions, Queres, In- veftives againft ir, (poke againft thofe worthy Members by name who prefented it, and all when it was but newly under debate; for proofe of all which particulars let theiReader look upon thefe following Pamphlets : Some modtft and bumble Queres concerning a printed paper eniituled An Ordinance prefented to the Honorable Houfe of Commons, for the preventing of the growing of Herefies : A Thmurre to the Bill 'for preventing the growth and fire ading of Herefies. Some hreif Obfervations upon the foregoing Ordinance* Matter 'Burtons Conformities Deformity , Pag. 17. Overtons Ar- vow againft all Tyrants, pag.i 2,13,14. of which Ordinance yet bur under debate in that Houfe this Overton writes, The Houfe of ~>- Commons to their faces in the laft Faft Sermon before them, heard ' enough by Matter Veil a famous Se&ary3 and the Generalls Chap- laine, againft their power and authority to meddle in things of this kind. Fifthly,the Sectaries have written publikely and fpoken openly a- gainftmany particularMembers of bothHoufes by name,yea againft the Honourable Speakers of ho th Houfes by name, and divers o- ther prime eminent Members, of note as well for their eftates and ranka out of theHoufes, as power in the Houfes, calling by name (bme of them Traitors, Achans^ accufing them of treafon and wil- full betraying of their Countries and Trufts, as the Religious Eart of Manchefier, Sir Henry Vane Senior, Matter Barms* charging others by their ieverall names with othercrimes, as in juftice, op- preffion5 \ 2^4 A 2^w and further Difcevery cffhe preffion,prote&ing of Delinquents/ending many thoufand pounds to the King at Oxford, procuring by their pubjike places in the Houffj contrary to the Self-denying Ordinance, private and profi- table places co ihernfdves, pride and lofcinefJe of carriage, breach of promiics , giving out of the Scots that they have a wicked de- fign, tending to the prejudice of the State. It would fill up many pages ro relate all the pafiages in Ltlburns, Overtons, Matter Muf- graves Bocks, England* Birth-right, and fuch like Pamphlets of Se- ctaries againtt fome of the Peers by name, as that thrice Noble and Wor ;hy Earl of EJfex lately deceased, the Earl of Stamford, Lord Uunfden, and divers of the Commons, as Sir Arthur Hazelri^ Ma* iktLilJle, Matter G/}^, Matter Wackftone, Matter Cork*, Matter Wtitaky% Matter Allen, Matter Taet, Matter Bacon, yea they fall foule upon Sir Henry Vane the younger, Matter Solicitor, Lievte- nant Generall Cromwell, Sir Henry Mildmay, Matter Holland, &c. and would have them turned out of their places, as being Non- refidentiaries , Pluralifts, ttrengchening others in thofe wayes by their examples, telling them chefe other places diftintt from their Memberfhips of Parliament prejudices greatly the Common- wealth, (owes up their lips, makes them they dare neither fpeak nor doe what they fhould , and without which 'tis hoped they would • but I muft not enlarge more on this head, and therefore referre the Pleader ro the Books themfelves to perufe the particu- lars at large. Sixthly, The Sectaries bave fpoken, written publikely againtt, •contefted with the Committees of Parliament, the Committees of each Houfe, both of the Houfe of Commons and Lords : How Lilburne carried himfelf to the Committee of Examinations his pamphlet entituled Ihi copy of a Letter fromLievt, Col Liibmne to a Friend fhewes at large ; what Matter Afufgraves carriage was to a Committee of the Houfe of Commons fof which Matter Life was the Chair-man) himfelfe relates in his pamphlet entituled A* nother word to the wife ; and in that Book he fpeaks againft the pro- ceedings of that Committee, and in that of all the Committees of the Houfe of Commons, mewing his reafons why he declined that Committee,and the answering of their Interrogatories : Now his Words are as followes, I am blamed becattfe 1 declhe the Committee, how Errours and Proceedings of the SeSaries. 215 howfhould I expetf any good from them, when they dare not, or will not fujfr our caufe to bepublikely hard and debated,but doefhut their doom -^ againft both our friends, and alfi againfl grangers, contrary to Law, yet fuffer they our adversaries whom weaccufe to fit with thdr hats on3 ai Judges in the caufi, both pzrmittingthem^ and they taking upon them to examine w. And how can I affent unto the Committes demands to bring witneffes tobe examined before fuch a Committee as cannct^or vs not author ifid to administer an oath,andfo confidently cannot determine or cive any judgement for or again ft the party accufid, for that all mat- ters of fatt and caufes criminall are to be tried and determined by the. verditlof twelue men upon folemne oaths and depqjition of witnejfesj And how can I without incurring the hainow fime of perjury, fub- mit unto the Arbitrary proceedings and determinations of any Com- «£$ mitt it, being bound by folemne oath and proteftation to maintains the Lawes and jufl liberties of the people-, and that the Proceeding, Or- ders and Re/klts vf the Committees be Arbitrary, and not regulated by the Law, I need no further proofe then that exorbitant and unlimitted power they take upon them, and daily exercife in feazkg on free mens goods, and imprifoning their bodies contrary to Law j for which, if thy fhduld, as they ought, pay 500. li« a peice,and trebble dammages to every patty greived, according to the Statute of 17. Carol, made for the abolifhingof the Star-chamber, Ibeleevetbey would not adven- ture fo boldlj to tranfgrefje. Overton in his Pamphlet call'd A De- fiance again ft all Arbitrary ufurpations either of the Houfe of Lords or a* ny other$ r 4. ^.declares his contemptuos inlblent carriag towards a Committee of the Lords Houfe, how when he was asked by the Earle of Eflex two feverall times whether he were a printer or no$ he anfwered that he would not anrwer any queftions or Interro- gatories whatsoever, but would ftand to the rights and properties of the people of this Nation; as aifo that he asked the Committee ibme queftions, talked (awcily to them, as to know where or befors whom he was, What is a Committee of Lords the moft fuprcme Court of Judicature in the Landl Gentlemen^/ you be a Committee of 'Lords s , then I appeals from you. Seventhly, the Seftaries have carried themfelves in word and deed infolently againfl the Parliament of England, not only ("as I have fully proved) abufing apar^the Houfe of Lords,the Houfe of the 2\6 A New and further D ]i fcovery of the tfoeGommons,Comrmc.ofeach HcVcj(e,and divers parricularMern- bers of both Houfes by name, but as conjunct in their Authority Power, and chat in both the fenfes in which the Parliament is ta- ken, whether as we meane the three Eftates m Parliament in their Legiflative power, the King, the Lords, the Commons, or whe- ther the Lords and Commons aflembled in Parliament making the bigheft Court to punifh other Courts and orTendors according to Lawes already made, and having a power to make Ordinances and to fee ouc rules and directions in emergent occasions of the Kingdome till a Law can be made. Now in the firft acception of Pari iament the Sectaries have by word, wiiting, and all their proceedings (efpecialiy of late,) overthrown? Parliaments, and the fundamental! conftitution of the three eftates, King, Lords and Commons, and that in denying all Legiflative power to the King and Lords, and of three Eftates, leaving and niakingbutone,cut- ting off both King and Lords from their unqueftionable legal! power according to the Lawes and fundamental! conftitution of the Government of this Kingdome j yea indeed deftroying all the three eftates, taking away all the power and authority from the King, Lords, and Commons, and placing it in the uhiverfall people, giving them power to doe what they will, and as often as they will, as being the Creator of all, and making the King,Lordsf and Commons their nieere creatures, to be difpofed of as they pleafe $ and as the Sectaries are againft the power of the three E- fiates in Parlia. to make new Lawes, giving this Legiflative power only to the Commons?and that to at the dilcrecion of the peopie,(b are they againft the Lawes and A&s already made by King,Lords, and Commons anembied in Parliament, having inveighed againft all Lawes from firft to laft both Common and Statute, yea againft Magna Charta u felfe, calling it a poore and beggarly thing, be- low a Freeman, &c. of the proofes of which particulars, though ihe Sectaries Books are full, I fnall only name one place in the Re- monftranceof the Sectaries to their owneHoufe of Commons, page 15. where they fpeak thus to the Commons : Tee know the Lams of this Nation are unworthy of a free people, anddeferve from fir ft to laft to be confidtredy and feriouflj debated andreduced to an a- gmment with common equity and right reafon, Magna Chart a if felfe Errors and Vroceedhgs of the Sectaries* 217 it but a beggarly thing, containing many marks of intolerable bondage, and the Lawet that have hem made price by Farliarmms have in very many particulars made our Government much more opprejfve and into- lerable-, and in all their Books they (pcakagainft the knowne po- fitive Lawes of the Land, and cry out for Lawes according to right reafon, and for naturatt primitive right f, the jufl rights and pre- rogative of mankind) which as they are the Jonnesof Adam, from him they have legitimacy derived-, of which they make themfelves the fble Judges, for otherwise our Anceftcrs who rlrftfounded this go- vernment and Lawes, and the Parliaments ever fince in all ages being rationall men, have judged the prcfent forme of Govern- ment and the Lawes to be molt agreeable to Right Reafbn and E« quity for this Nation, and accordingly have confirmed and rati- hed them (b many times, Nov/ if this infolent outragious carri- age Qf many Sectaries be well con fidered,ic will be found Trea* fon in the higheft forme, not only againft the King but the. King- dome too, as my Lord Cook (pake in the cafe of the Gunpouder Tray tors, they having plotted, en Jeavourec^written many Books, done many actions to overthrow the fundamentall conftitution and lawes of this Kingdome, and that not by blowing up one Parlia- cgj ment, but by their gun-powder fpirits labouring to deftroy all Parliaments^ n their conftitution of three Eftates for ever 5 and if Strafford and Canterbury for endeavouring to (ubvert the funda- mentall lawes of this Kingdome (though they profeffed igno. ranee in many thing?, and for what they did pleaded the command cf the King, and carried themfelves with all dutiful! fubmiffion to the Parliament, not to their faces, and in the time of a Parlia- ment endeavouring to overthrow Parliaments and Lawes , and confronting them) were yet charged and fuffcred death; how ma- ny deaths hath Lilbume, Overtop and the reft of their fellowes de- «J3) terved, who have with (b much violence (ought the overthrow of the three Eftates and the Lawes of the Kingdome, and in the ftead of the Fundamental! Government Lawes and Constitution* of this Kingdorae,to fet up an Utopian Anarchie of the promi£ cuous multitude , and the I uft sand ^ certain e fancies of weake people for Lawes and Rules$ and if thefe audacious men and their daring books (hall efcape without exemplary punifh- F f ment 2 2 1 8 A New and further Difcoverj of the ment$ and ioftead thereof, be countenanced and fet free, I do as a Minifter pronounce chat me plague of God will fall upon the heads of thofe who are the can;e of it. , And huhe iecond accepiion of the Parha. for what hath been done by the joynt power of both Houfes in their Ordinances and commands, yea the power which theyclaime, and is exprefledin the Writs by which they make fuch Ordinances and command o- bedknce to them, both the Authority and the Ordinances follow- ing from that Authority are denied and reproached all kind of wayes by the Sectaries -and here I have (o large a feild towalke in lhat I might make a fourth part of Gangrma in laying open the particulars of this kind, but I will only (peak a few things : In the genera!], the Authority ofbothHoufes of Parliament In matters of Religion and all Ordinances whatfoever tending that way, have beene all violated with a high hand and trampled under foot with fcorneand deteftation openly declared againft in the flrangeft manner that ever was in any age. Now for the Sectaries oppofing the Parliaments Authority to eftablifti Church* govc rnmenr, and to fet up the true Religion, I will among many quote only three : Firft, Colljer a Matter Sect- ary, in his Qneresf.24. anfw ring that queftion, what power, &c faith, they hive none at all $ ard that tis one or the firft and great- eft degrees of Anticbriftian tyranny, for man to affume to himfelf power infpirituall things,z;i^ ^.24,25, 26,2 7,2g,2p.Secondly. Mr, Burton is his Pamphlet intituled Conformities Deformity (\t being the maine (cope of his Book) (peaks againft the power and pra- £tifeof this State and prelenr Parliament o enact a Law to binde aU to conformity in Religion, and makes it 10 be the feare of God taught by the precept of men, to be hypocrtfie, idolatry, to be that which turnes men away from the truth, and & from Chrift, page 7» 15* and in pige 12,13, ^e w"tes thus* Aid therefore in this time of pretended Reform jtion (belike the Parliament doth but pre- tend Reformation, becaufe it fets not up by a Law fndependencie and Se&arifme, Presbyterian Government, he Dirt&ory, Confefc fion of Faith, Cateehifme, being all but pretended Reformation With Mafter Burton) to enU this j tut Idoll, w rrit, a power in nun tQ prefcrih Lams \ and to legitimate commaidcmcnts for wrfbip and Church- Errours ancC Proceedings of the Sectaries. 219 Church government, and to prefjl them nfon every mans confcience : wbjtnitbtitwsthNcbuchadnezzavto erelt this golckn Imjge , and with an immortal! Law of ibeMedes*and Persians to bind all then to fall dome and worfhip it . and when civill Officers have queftioned people for travelling , and worldly works on thofe dayes , fbme Sectaries have oppofed them in the execution of their offices , the proofe of which particular, and that of committing a Minifter to prifon for reading the Ordinance againft Lay mens preaching, the Reader mayflndeit in the Let- ters lent from the Committee of Exeter to fbme in London. The National! Covenant taken by both Hou(es,and appointed by Or- dinance, with fblemue infractions for all to take it, how fearfully is it fcoffed at and jeared in many Books of the Sectaries, Ar- raignment of Perfecution} f$*e, and* forced jefuiticail equivocations and interpretations put upon it by many, as by Walwyn in A word more to Mafier Edwards, as by Cretmfis in his large Preface to the Reader before his Anapeloge pates Antaj?okgiaf> The Nationall Covenant is called a double faced Covenant, the greateft make-- gm., bate and fnare that ever :he Devill, and the Clergy Ws Agents call in among honeft mm >n England in our age i which I dare pawne my head and life fo to prove ic to be in i fair and publick difcourfe againft the greateft maintaiaer thercci in $ji&knd9 Utfattpi ■ Errors md Proceedings of the SecJaries. 22 x dons liberty in chains di [covered, page 42. The Directory eftabiifh- ed by Ordinance, is in feverall Books of the Sectaries fpoken much againft, refmbled to Jeroboams calves, faid to have contradictions to the Caronkall Scriptures : Turners Heavenly confidence for Sy- ons Saints^, page 6*, 65. icofTcdat if) a Ba!!ad3ca!rd APropheie of the Swineherds deftrticlion. The Ordinances for the Presbyteriall Government, and the Gouernmsnc it ft Ife in the going to let it up have beene preached, written againft, and all manner of wayes oppo&d by the Sectaries. What hath beene more familiar and common with the Sectaries in their Pulpits and Bocks, then to call the Presbyterian Government Ancichiiftian, a lim of Anti- chrift, Tyrannical!, Lordly, cruell, a worfc bondage then under the Prelates, a bondage under Task matters as the Israelites inJE- gypt, befides many bitter jearesand feoffs have bcene made both of the Government and Ordinances, as mThzA'ratgnmtm of Per- fection, Martins Eccho^ Ordinance for Tyths difmounted, Tlx lift warning to tall the Inhabitants of London ; asalfo they have made difgracefull pictures of the Presbytery, one printed and joyned to a paper call1 *d StveraU Votes of under consciences, another to a Pam- phlet call'd The tender Confcience refrgioujly affeUed. But among all the Sectaries Books abufing the Parliaments Ordinances about PresbyteriaH Government, let the Reader take notice of the Pan> phlet call'd Tender confcience relighufy ajfttfed, propounding qnefiU ons of weighty con fiequence/m which the Author deicams upon the Ordinances of Parliament, and charges them with (peaking bhP phemy, and many othercrimes, and the Ordinance for Tyths dip- mounted , where that Sectary fpeaking occrfionallyof the Or- dinance of Parliament for the Lords Supper, faith, For in dee d at the fir ft onfet it was not folic ie to rufih fitch a diabolic all andviU Imous invention point blanc\upon us , with an It U decreed and cr~ darned by the Lords and Commons afjembled in Parliament : 'But afm a more my fterious manner of Ordination^ flibj intrude it up on w$ un- awares in the godly and fptcious vizor of Rules and VireUions , as if, our Parliament men had finch a fpirttuall and holy care over us% to give w Juch wholfome and piow direBions, while indeed under tbii inno* cent apparition in the fihape of Lambs , they are no other then raven*- fog Woolves tending and tearing us in prices 5 againe 5 this Sectary. fpeaking 222 A New and further Difcwery of the ■tf* /peaking of Parliament men about their Ordinance, faith , But what they an kt aH the people judge, let them con flder whether there can h the kifldram of hue fly or Religion in them, cr reject! to the liberty of th pi fee borne Nation thetein, feeing they lay upon us a heavier yoa^e then ever was laid upon m in the dayes oj the Bifhopsl It will be the greateft thraldom and bondage that ever the Kingdom was involved into ; and by thuOrdinmce of the Sapper, I am afraid wefball aU go fupperleffe to bedrid freaking of the ClaJJh, Synods, he addes, if we. can.finde no Juflice 'there we may appeale (forfooth) to our Gods themselves ', the Bar* liamtnt (fife everla fling world without end) of whom, how may we ex- pert menu or juflice thin that thus beforehand whip wmth the flings of Scorpions , and grind m betweene the devouring jawcs of fitch divilijh tyrannic all Courts which will even crufh our bones in peices, and jqusefe out our very marrow andjuyce^ndfuc}^ out our very hearts blond like fo many greedy Camibals? And as I have mown how the Pr e£ byteriall Government and Ordinances for it, have beeneby word and writing oppofed, fbl (nail give fbme inftances of the Sectaries infblent actings and,workings againft it. In London when accor- ding to command of Authority, the Minifters and people met to kt up the Government, to chuie Elders in Congregations 3 fome Sectaries came into Churches when they were chafing, and made a difturbance by objecting openly againft the officers at Alderfgate, and fome other Churches ; other Sectaries joyned together hin- dered the election, objecting they would not chufe Elders till they had chofen Minifters firft, becaufe their Minifters were put in by the Bifliops in former times, or by the Parliament of late without their formall choyce$ an inftanceof the firft was at Michael crook- ed lane, where by the meanes of fome Sectaries the Election was hindered, and is to this day, and things were carried with a great dealeof confufion and tumult ; an inftance of thefecond was at Thomas Apoftles : As fome other Churches of London, where up- on the Church doores a paper was fet up to give notice of Elders chofen in fuch places, and that they were to be tried at fuch a time in meh a Church, and that if any bad any thing to except againft them, they mould bring in their exceptions, thefe papers were puld downe, and in their place a (candalous paper call'd fe- verall Votes of tender conTciences, having a difgracefull picture of Errours and Proceedings of the SeEfams. 223 of a Presbyter, having Amichriftian written by him, in the inidft of the PopeandPre!ate,wasfetup$ as for inftance 27. 0$ July laft on the Church doore in Clements Eafkheap, the paper about Elders was taken downe, and trr s paper fet up. At Dover In Kent, when one of the parifhes was to chiife Elders, the Independents and Sectaries carriage was extreme infolenr, as the Reader may ob erve by thefe following pafLges written to me in a Letter from a Reverend Minifter of that Towne. t ' Now for the day of Electing our Elders, if a State and the- € Truth were ever trodden downe at once by men, it was in the - preparation for that day, and the pra&ife of it : Before the day ' iome of them went about to perfwade the people to hold their * liberties, and not to bring the mfelves in bondage. Theychofe * our Elders for u?, and perfwaded people to accept of them , and c being asked by iome whether they thought them fit to be Elmers cin their Independent Church, they anfwered no, nor members « neither ; they fpake evill of our beft men, and accufed them of ♦wavering and malice, andEwhen fome told that if they fliouid c chufe fuch Eiders as they named, people would not be joyned * with them, they replied, no matter, they might then come to * their Church ; and when the day was come and time to chufe * our Elder?, albeit their ownePiftor was preaching in the towne * at the fame inftanr, yet fome of them came to ourchoyce, and 'thereaffirmed (though not by an open outcry j yet by private «perfwafions -to fome,thac we were now building the wails of Bj- 1 bel, and went to divers pertens and got them to f orbeare giving ' their voices to Matter P. telling them that they knew he would •not takeit, by which meanes we feare he will iofe it ; to be breif, 6 we know that they are oppofice to order, and if there be not *reftraint will bring all to alawlefis condition, (o thinks Jumiy* l6\6o . Tour loving fnlnd and Brother Eighthly, the Independents and Sectaries have fpoken, writ~ ten, and carried thenifelves very unworthily towards our Brethren of Scotland; the Sectaries in the Army, City, Country, and in all places of this Kingdoms have at all tables, and in all Pamphlets and 224 ^ ^crv ar'd further Difcovery of the and all kind of wayes abuled and railed againft the Scots, inventing many wicked lies, railing groundlefie jealoufies and feares of them, and that uf their Kingdome and State, their Army, their Gomrniffioners refident here, their General! Aflembiy, of particu- lar worthy perfbns by name, and as they have done thus about this two tail yeers with all induftry and fubtilty imployingEmifiTi- ries, fo more efpecially fince the Kings going to the Scoctifh Army they have beftirred themfelves by their weekly Pamphieters , by many libellous Pamphlets written on purpose, by many ftrange and falle reports raited on purpoie to ineenfe the Kingdom againft them, and to make them odious • I could fill a great book in fee ting downe all the hard fpeechesthe ungodly Sectaries have fpoken againft them in Sermons and other dilcourfes, in tranlcribing out of the Ss&aries Books all the bitter, fcoffing, lying, railing pa£ (ages written againft them, in relating all ftrange fafts, and cruell unkind dealings of that party againft them; but they are fbweil fcnowne, and all wife men Co well acquainted with them, that I need not much enlarge 5 only for the fake of weake ones who live remote, I (hall touch upon a few things, and truly tis the ho- nour of our Brethren of Scotland thai the Sectaries hate them fo infinitely; for would they have beene faife or remifle in the Gove- £/* nam, and to their principles, they mould have beene the great fa« vorites with them,and might have had what they would 5 but be- caufe they were too honeft,and not to be corrupted by any world- ly thing, and they looking upon them as the great thing that let- teth and will let, untill it betaken out of the way, therefore they have fought to blaft them and deftroy them all kind of wayes they could defire. They have therefore laboured to polTefie the people by word and writing that the Scots are a falfe, diftioneft , felfe- feeking People, all for their owne ends, and alwayes were,that th§y comply with the Kings defignes,are firmly his as ever the Cavaliers were, that they will joyne with the King againft the Parliament, a mercinary people that have got a world of money and lent it out of the Kingdome in whole barrels full, that have had more mo- ney, and now demand more hundred thoufand pounds then all Scotland is worth if it were to be fold, that they ftood for the King to come to London^ and to be difpofed of by their advice for nothing Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 225 nothing elfe but co gee great offices about him, and places at CourCjthatthey feek nothing but to encroach upon the rights and liberties of this Nation in feveral! of their demands,and therefore what true Englifn man can beareit? They have given out of their Armies chat theyexercife ftrange crue!ries,robberks, plunderings in the Countries notwithstanding all their great pay, and yet they have done nothing for if, what have they done almoftthis two laft yeeres, (ay the Se&aries> nay fbme Sectaries have given out we owe them nothing , they have had more then their pay comes to* Prefently after the newes came of the Kings going to the Scottifh Army, there were many jealoufies raifed and reports given out by the Independent party, that all the forces of the Kings out of Newark Were joyned to the Scots, and gene along with them* that Letters were intercepted going from the King to Oxford, to wifh them to hold out fo many dayes and they mould have releife, that two thoufand Irifh were come to joyne with the Scots for the Ring againft the Parliament, that the Scots had broken the Co- venant in detaining the King, and in not delivering up Afkbum- bam, with divers fuch fables, and ilnce all along we have by thac party fbme foe ftories or other told of the Scots, as of fo many thoufands out of France to joyne with them, and fo many thou- fandfrefh men come out of Scotland into Enghndy and Informati- ons and Examinations printed of ftrange things the Scats will do, and the Kingtiath fpoken of fince he went to them, reports of To- ries of Robin Hood and little John, of Cocks and Bulls, plots that would be difcovered of the Scots, and fbme great Noble men. Now for proof of the Sectaries being guilty in the/e particulars, I referre the Pleader to divers of the Sectaries libellous Pamphlets againft the Scots y as M^qv Burtons Conformities Deformity : A black cloud in the North, a late Declaration by way of Letters,* 8cc to di- * An unhappy vers of the Weekly newes Books of late, and particularly to the Game ar ImperfeclVinrriall, Immoderate Intelligencer, Vnpcrfe& Occurrences, Sc the Proteftants there were an unworthy people, that Kingdome had coft us more to keep it then ever we got by it* that it was pity to hazard that Army upon it which was fo faithful^ and done fo much for us, with other words to this purpofe 5 other Sectaries have laughed at the Presbyterians being fo forward in preaching and pcaying for releif to be (ent over in all ha# into G g 2 Ireland. 228 A New and further Diftovery of the Ireland, A Gentleman in publick place told me not: long mice he had heard an Independent (ay upon difcourfing of the hazard of she loffe of Irelandthaz it was not a three penny matter to England^ if Inland and Scotland both were loft, England had no need of them 5 Overall ftrange fpeeches have fallen from the Sectaries in re- ference to Ireland, Tenthly, the Independents and Sectaries have fpokenswritten, and dealt moft unworthily with the City of London^ a whole book might be written of all the calumnies, ieproaches,. abu&s that have beene offered the Cky of London within this laft twelve months, efpecially about that late excellent Remonftraneej how bath the late Lord Major, the whole Court cf Common- councell and City Remonftrance been written5preached3 fpoken agaii ft by the Sectaries of she Army, City, and Country,giving reproachful! narnes3 railing wicked lies upon them; and. for nothing but for petitioning the Parliament for felling the Government, andde* claring themfelves for the Covenant againlt Hereticks, Scifma- ticks, and Blafphemers I Cretenfis, that great Sectary, cals the late Lord Major of London and the Comnion-councell Brethren in ini- quity with me; the Author of the Pamphlet call'd the Lord Majors farewell jrom his Office of tJtfajoralty, resembles the late Lord Ma/or to wicked Ahazy faying, the Saints will fay of him in fucceeding ages> this is that Lord Major of London Thomas Adams by name : Lilhurns in his Pamphlet emituled Londons Liberty, calls by way of fcoffing the Prerogative Lord Major Mams ; A Se- nary in the Army call'd him rafcali. The Common- councell and Citizens have beene commonly call'd the Sect of the Adamites, and in print to in the Pamphlet The juft mans juftification^pa^iS* 1^ The Sectaries frequently cal the Citizens Preift-rlden &U ves* They * have in Pulpits beene call'd the great rnountaine that hinders the liberty of the people, refined Malignants, and that if ever this Kingdome was brought into flavery , the City would be the caufeof itrfome of the Sectaries have faid that the King 5 the Scots }md the Common- councell did drive on one deligne; it were too long to reckon up al the abufes offered the Ciijoi London and the Honorable Court of Common- councell by fome of the week- ly Pamphleters, as the Moder ate Intelligencer, Pe*/eff QccHmnces, and Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 22^ and by fonie Sectarian fouldiers ihreatning that they would as- willingly come againit che City asever againft the Cavaliers. The City Remon France hath beene branded by them^one Captaine in the Army faid the Remon It ranee was as devilifh a thing as ever was penned by man. Lilhnrne in hi&Londonj liberty in chains difco~ vered) page36, fpeakingof the C ity Remonftrance, calls it chat moft devilifh, wicked, bioudy, unchriftian, Papifticall Remon- fhrance of the Prerogative men of Lovdon38cc. Oifer Sectaries have cali'd it that monfter wich many heads, the fifceepe headed nionfier,a bate railingRemonftrancejM. ?#**•/ hath spoken his plea- fureofic in the Pulpit,andthe^^/-^/e Reply totheCity Rempn/t, with the City Remonftrance remonftrated 9 have many naughty paflages againft theGommomcounceii and City Remonftrance, as that it was the diihirber of the quiet and peace of the Church and 5tate,ckc.but I mall paffethem by^nd cranferibe only one pal- fage out of 'M. Burt ons Conform.Uefir in. where in the Epift. Dedica- tory to the prefent Lord Major, he writes thu?, * Give me leave to befeech you, that you would improve the whole power of your of- c See f among other evilsj for the not only fiippreffing, but uttes * obliterating out of all Records of memory or mention^ that late 5 Remonftrariceof London, which like the Trojan hcrff,is fluffed * wiihfoch matter,as if the importunity of iome might have had its €defire,would unavoidably hale in ruineboth to City and Coun- 'try.Nor doth anything more clearly demonftrate that fpirituall * judgement of olindnefle and hardnefTe of heart to be upon all c thole who have their heads and hands in that Remonstrance, and •wilfully pern" ft in the profecuuonof it now in cold bio udE, then c the unnaturall hating and hunting after the deft u&ion of thofe 'very men as our mortall enemies , who have with the extrem S hazard of their lives been honoured of God to be the prefer vers * of them, ourCicy and Count iy,&c. Fortheipirk of that ten* * horned beaft is now making warre with the Lamb3 and this (piric c warreth under new colours, not red, but white, whofe word is 5 Reformation ,and this under a fair colour of & Covenant by vercue f wherof pretending a juft title to the War,he hopes by the help of * the Remonftrance and the prime Authors thereof, and their adhe- ^rentstoerefta new.befliall Tyranny over foules, bodies and e- ftatesr 23° A New and further Difcovery of the ■^.ftates , under new names and notions. Elevently, the Se&aries have carried thetnfeives towards the AfFembly with the greateft fcorne and reproach that ever any fort of men carried themfdves towards fuch a company of Miniftefs learned and godly, and called by a Parliament to advile with in matters of Religion : O how many books have beene written a- gainft them within theie two laft yeers or thereabouts, as The Ar- raignment of Perfecution^ Martins Eccbo, and their fellowes . Oche railing, bkter, difgracefull pafTages, in Lilhurns Letter to Mr. Ptyn^ Tender Conjcknce religioujlj affe&ed, and divers other Pamphlets a- gainft the Afiembly, calling thenuhe black-coats in the Synod,Dri* vines, good for nothing but ro be burnt, having two homes like a Lamb, but a mouth like a Dragon,teaching the Parliament to (peak blasphemy againft thofe Saints that dwell in heaven : Ohow com- monly by word of mouth and in writing is the Afllmbly call'd Antichriltian, Romifh, bloudy,the plagues and A Ballad hath beene made of them, having a firft and fecond part, wherein they are fcofred with the tide of Blackbird Divines^ the name of the Ballad is A Prophecy of the Swyn- beards VtftrnBionfo the turn of the merry S0uldier}or the jovial! Tin* \er ; this Ballad calls the AflembJy Swinheards? faith, thefe Swine- neards are fitting to build old Babels Tower : The Aflemby hath ■* A Pamphlet bgeneabu fed all kind of wayts,* threatned if. they give advife to entituled A the Parliament againft a Toleration of Independents , they fhall lXTu°ftAtt be cIla(lireci as evil1 Councilors, difturbers of Church and State, Mimflmtf no *e^e ^en great Strafordot little Canterbury 5 all kind of impu- fmbled at tations charged on them, and they made by the Sectaries thecaufe weftminfier, and ground of all evils that are upon the Kingdome. The laji war- ning to the Inhabitants of Lender?, page 7. faith, the Ajfembly are only to advife the Houfe of Commons when they require them, and have not dealt fdrely to fide with the Scots, or to [way with the City, or to ■ n>'ge the Parliament in the haft. Twclfthly, the Sectaries have carried themfelves wickedly and infolently toward the whole Miniftry in this Kingdome, and that both in City and Country, reproaching them and railing againft them in Pulpits, Preffes, and in all place?, threatning them to fend them . Errours and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 231 them packing to Rome, that they will leave never a Preiliin E*- gland, difturbing them in their ovvne Churches and Pulpits, in gi- ving them the lie, calling them by difgracefull names, as foole3 knave, falfe Prophet, Antichrift 3 Frog in the Revelation, pul- ling them out of the Pulpis, keeping them by force from preach- ings invading their Pulpits againft their wills, drawing fwords a- gainftthem,alTaulcing them in their houfes with weapons of war, and driving them from their habicationSjand laying their Churches waft. A large book would not conuine all the (lories of the Se- ctaries mifufing the godly Minifters in this kind ; I have many in- fiances with the proofes by me of the Sectaries infblent carnages in theie kinds in Ox/or djbire, Glojlerfiire, Stemmerfetjb>re, Wi!tfbire> Tedfordfkirej Nortbamptonjbire, Warwickshire , Lefie>Jbirc^ Devon- shire ; it would be too much to particularize all the wicked fa&s done in this kind by Col. HcHfinyM &)or j4*f0»,Leiut.^££,Capr. Foul Hobjon, and divers ctheis, as alio to repeat all the wicked re- proachfull names given the godly Minifters of the Kingdom in the printed pamphlets of the SccWies,as tbeThvils Agent syT be profejfed enemkrnf Cbrift, 7 be fwome enemies ofChriff^Pe; rfi eating Prefbyttrs, Croaking Fregs> and twenty iuch names,and worfe. Thirteenthly, the Sectaries have fpoken wickedly againft all the Reformed Churches, (coffing at their Synods, Claries, Ordina- tion,&c. Let their books be looked into, and they will be found to have written/ more fcoffingly and reproachfully aganft thofe Churches then ever the Papifts or delates did 5 yea, they have blalphemed thoie Churches, the eminent fervants of God among them, and the truth of Chrift taught in them. What mould I /peak of the Arraignment of perfecutifln and his fellowes belching out blafphemies- againft the reformed Churcheshnany other pamphlets befidea that fort are extremely faulty, as The companionate Samari- tane, Divine Light, &c. *. The Reformed Churches are ranged * Divine hghc by feme of the Seftaries with Papifts and Turks, and Calvin that manifefting worthy Inftrument of Reformation, and one of the Stars of the Godslove. firft magnitude, is evillipoken of and rancked with the Roma- 't*&9*l$* nifrs. Four/teeBthly,The Seftaries have inveighed againfl inferior Magiftratesj&Courts^sJudgesJuftices of peace^MajORof Cities, Com- 232 A New and further Difcovery of the ' 1 1 1 ■ ■ 1 ■ 1 . ■ i' 1 . <\ 1 ■ ■ 1 ir> Commutces>and all forts of Officers of fuftice,and haveoffered fe- veflill affronts unto thefe- and 'tis no wonder that they who with (o high a hand dare affront heaven and earth, God, bis truth, Minifters and Ordinances, the higher powers, and the fupremeft Court of judicature , as 1 have (ho wed the Sectaries have done, fhoujd not be afraid of fpeaking againft and carrying them- ielves uncivilly towards Magiftratea in lower places. The Courts of Juftice in Wtftrmnfier Hall, and all their proceedings have been reviled by Liiburne and other Sectarian pamphlet?. All the Law- yers have beene cryed^ downe, and reproached in Englauds Birth- right, and other pamphlets, (bme of the Judges have beene affront- ed in their Circuits at thelaft Aflizes by fome Sectaries, as at Hart" ford and other places. Some Juftices of Peace for executing Or- dinances of Parliament upon Sectaries, as that ofTyths,and Com- mitting upon blafphemies, have beene arretted and fued by Secta- ries, as on Southwark fide, as alfo abtued and reproached to their faces,and books written againft them for difcharge of their office, befides Con ftables and Officers who have diftrained and ferved their Warrants, have beene molefted and fued; Majors of Cities, Sheriffs, Aldermen have beene branded for arbitrary, tyrannical! prerogative Aldermen, Sheriffs, and mifcalled at pleafure, as in Lilburneihie pamphlets, The Lord Majors farewell to bit Maioralty^ Committees in the Countries have beene affronted by Sectaries, putting on their hats when brought before them, as in Bedford- fhiHjmdin one word, all forts of officers of Juftice have one way orother* by word or deed, beene abufed by Sectaries, either by difobeying the Warrants they have brought, or by miicalling them,6r by branding them in print, as Lilburn hath done inrfeverall pamphlets, feverall officers, the Sergeant at Arms of the Houfeof Commons, the Keepers of Newgate, he being more infolent and domineering in prifbn over all kind of officers then his Keepers over him; but above all, the Sectaries infolencies towards that *lMum$ A- faithfull Gentleman Colonel Francis JVefi> and other officers un- nacomy of the der him, appears by * Lilburnes late libellous pamphlets, and by injufticeofthe tne tnreatning fpeeches of fome Sectaries comming to fee Litbum L W^Mer^" tne Tower, who being by the Warders fpoken unto to give ty in chains their names, and where they dwelt, told them they (hould anfwer difcovcrcd. the Errors And Proceedings of the Sefiaries. 233 the prohibiting of thera from going to Leiutenant Colonel LxU hnrnt^ and chat the time was at hand, when they would come in c=r? whether the ki&iv&k nant of the Tower would or no. And thus I have given a touch upon teverall heads, of the Sectaries tumultu- ous infolent unfufferable carriages :buc among all their wicked- nefles and abomiuable courfes which may make them juftly ab- horred of all good men, and of thefc Kingdomes , the Reader may obferve th*fe following. 1. That they make it their work and bufinefle to corrupt, defiroy,md overthrow all Religion and godlinefk, to lay all waft, and to tet open a wide gate to all error and licen'tioufoefie of living, for the effecting of which chey doe tiotonly ufe all means andw^yes for a Univerfall Toleration of all Herefies, Blafphernies, Atheifme, which may happen to arife$ that there being fuch , they may be tolerated, go unpunKhed (which Toleration alone would caufe growth of Herefies faft e« Hough, and the ruine of Religion and godlineflej but they plot all wayes, and take all couries under heaven that all Herefies and Errors may grow and increafe, that there may be both abundance of Errors and perfons holding them; and therefore they ufe all their power and intereft to hinder all things which might prevent the growth of Herefies aud Errors, as the fettling of Church- government, and peace in Church and Common-wealth, as the bringing in of Orthodox godly zealous Minifters into places with the eltablifhing of maintenance upon them, as the publiftiing of fuch Books as might keep men from Errors, having fupprerTcd (bme Books (b, which have come from New-England, as a Tractate againft Toleration,&c. And on the contrary doe any thing, though never fo unreasonable, though never (b much againft their owne principles, though never (b wicked and abominable, lb it will but advance Errors $ hence they fuffer many Emiflaries to go from Country to Country, from place to place to broach and vent among people all kinds of Errors, and that by force of Arms a- gainft the will of the Minifters and people, to invade Churches^ Pulpits, to commit tumults, riots, break the Kings peace, affront Minifters, Magiftrates in their places; andif any of them be que- ffioned, troubled, they bring them off by one means and trick or other; hence the more aftive any are in fpreading Errors , the H h greater 2.3 4 dNew and farther Difiovery of the greater Preachers they prove, the greater Errors, and (han- ger Opinions they hold, . the more they are countenanced, the fconer preferred to place&af profit, truft, honor 5 hence the Se- ctaries on all occasions, and in ali places joyne and fide with the arrantefi Malignant?, Papifts, loofett and ungodiiett men in a Country or Kingdorne to further Errors, and to hinder any means which 'might probably Cupprede them y hence they will .go a- zvidc Aliule gainft their own profiled avowed principles and a rafe their own book call d in- foundations, be mainly iaftrumentallto bind heavy burdens upon ^2C"hc?own ocfQers' which they account intolerable, wife, joy and be active foundation, in the b imposition of that upon their brethren, which themfelves, . , y. ,. who are for the impofidon of irD yet count unlawfull to be Tub* cation of "a *~ routed co, as in the point of Corarmffioners, the imperfect enu- primed Paper meration of fcandalous firmes, in the labouring to bring in fcan- inticuied an dalous «nd ignorant men to be Elders, and oppoiing able godly Ordinance for men m their choyce, on purpose to make the PresbyteriallGo- thc growth of veroraerK odious, ana* that people might fall to them, of which I Hcrefie*. could tell large (lories, as at Vwtt'r hence the Sectaries will raife and invent all kind of lies, go againft ali kind of jnftice and righrr ufe all kind of difhonett wayes and meanes ("indeed nothing comes amifiej toinaeafe Errors and Herefies^ and to flop all meanes a- gainft them, they will with Ahazhb go and enquire of fydzebub the God of Efyron for help 5 and laftly, hence our Sectaries doe not only plead for.a Tole?ation,but plead for the things themfelves, have found out many wayes to extenuate, leffen, juftine, yea to feint the grorleft Error9, wortt pra&ifes, and the vildeft Heretickss Jt would rill a great book to reckon up all the -diftinftions, excu- ^ fes, pkas,prete»ces, arguments, evafions3 apologies found out ^ atid made ufe of by the Sectaries within this two or three lad yetcs in defence of Hereto and Errors in general], and of the great eft Errors in particular 5 as denying the Trinity, the Scriptures, See. And in defence of Heieticks as being Saints, holy men, men of tender consciences, harmelefle, peaceable quiet men : Whoever Oiall but read Critenfis Anfwer to my Firft Part of Gangrmax his 38.' Quere9 upon the Ordinance for preventing the growth of Hererles, Walwyns , Sakmarfbes , Matter Buttons , Matter Bachtkrs Commendatory Imprimaturs , with divers 1 other late Pamphlets* Erwm and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 2 3 5 Pamphlets, Waft needs &y Errors are fmaH things, and that many •men go for Saints and Brethren among Independents, that there are many better in Hell then they, and we may as well call Dives Saint Dives ^ as fuch Sectaries Saints: Alienor now is chriftned and caird Confciencej tender Confcience, Piety, the feare of God, as in thefe books Conformities Deformity, The Parable or Confutati- on abont Mafter Edwards, Tender Confcience religion fly afficled the Reader may finde, and the viideft Hereticks, Schifmaticks, Blas- phemers, loofe ungodly perfons are cried up for Saints, the godly party, honeft men ; and it is obfervable, that among all the Inde- pendents and Sectaries, who have written againft my Books , as Saltrntrfb, Cretenfis, Walxvin, Mr. Burroughs ,Mr. Barton, with ma* *^ ny others, not one of them condemned any one Error, -or man that I wric againft, but jultiried all, frying out upon me with great bicternefie without any diftincVions at all of opinions or perfons, for fpeaking againft the Saints, the Saints: Some fay they know no Errors nor Sefrs at all, or if there be any, none fb ^3 dangerous as the new fprung up Sec\ of Presbytery, and the opini- on of compulsion in matters of Religion: Errors in matters of Faith, as in the Do&rine of the Trinity, the Divinity of Chrif% &c, are pleaded for that they be Errors not againft the light of nature, but againft Revelation and Faith, and fo more pardona- ble; that among the Arrians there were many good men , and that when Errors are according to a mans conscience, and not againft confcience, they are not fo dangerous. PatrfTteflthat fearful! Blafphemer, and his damnable Herefie againft the Trinity hath been in my hearing exculed, extenuated, and publikely alio thus pleaded for by raanySe&aries,that he was not guilty of blafphemy; that he denied only the triperfbnality, not the Trinity, Atbanafiut Trinity, not the Scripture Trinity, that he denies not the opera- tion of the Prions, but only the name of the Perfons, that he lent his writing about the Trinity to afreind in private, and he betrayed him, not that he had publrfhed his opinion. The queftioning of the Do&rine of the thre Perfons hath been excufed, that the Perfons were Schoole notions, the word Perlbn was not to be Found in Scripture, that it came not into the Church till feme hundreds of yeers after Ghrift, that fo long as men granted the H h 2 thing . 2 $6 A New and further Difeovtry cf the thing, that there were three, though they held them operations,or venues, it was not ib materiall. And as Errors are thus pleaded foiyixcutld by Sectaries; (b all kind of finnes and wicked pratti- fes are pleaded tor to be nojinnes, or elfe made light account of,, or the perfona prote&ed, and the offences fmothered* thus fbme IGI^ Sc&aries plead for Inceit to be no fione,the putting away and for* &king of husbands and wives to be. lawful), and a cafting off An- tichriftian yokes, the making no confeience of the Ghriftian Sab- bath to be a part of Chriftian liberty, the cafting away of prayer and holy duties to be a comming unto perfection, that nothing i& finneto the regenerate,.that they cannot finne ; that fuebperfons committing vild ungodly pra&ifesmuftnot be brought to puni&V ^ merit* nor profecuted becaure they are the Saints* and Grind will not cake it well to have his Saints raolefted; lis moft ftrange to- /peak of the fearfull baring with,, biding, concealing, juftifyingj, excufing,,the muffling off uncleannefles , drunkennefles, and all kind of wickedness among the Sectaries^ as by Mafter Jejje and bis company in the cafe of Mary Abraham^ by Lams Church in the cafe of one M. leaving and living from his wife, as in the cafe of fome Sectaries that have been drunk in the Army, with many fuch, (btbat the Sectaries of our times are in a fpeciali mannec guilty otrhe patronifing, prote&ing, yea and taking pleafure in all kind of Errors and wickednefie, which is an aggravation of flnne, and a greater evil! then the holding of fuch Errors,or com- mitting inch faftsas is evident by thele Scriptures^ Rcm.i. 32. not only do the fame, but have pleafure in them that doe them, Matthew 5; 19. Who fever fhall breafy one- of thefe leafi Commwdements 9 and fhaU teach men fo7 he fhaU be called the leafi in the Kingdome of hea» wn, andProv. 28. 4. They that jwfah^ the LatPypraife themebfd, hut fnch at fyep the Lawy contend with thtm, upon which text I wifli the Reader to look Mr. Cartveright on the Troverbs. 2. That when the Xing frtely caft himfelfe into the Armes of our Bre- thren of Scotland in Covenant wichus,and did not go for Ireland^ france, or into Scotland to Mmtroffe zndthQ Rebels there, as he might have done ( which courtes as they might have proved moft fod and dangerous to himfelfe and his pofterity, fo very pernici- ous so thefe Kingdoms in the continuance of a moft deftru&ive civill Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries, 237 eivHl Warre^and fad effects thereof^ the Independents and Se&a- ries were fo farre from ble fling God tor keeping the King from running thofe ways,and inclining his heart rather to go to ourBre- thren in Arras and Covenant with us, that they were much trou- bled at it, and (bme of them have expreffed as much, w idling the d|ri King ha^t gone rather to France or Ireland then to the Scots. An Independent (peak in g with a Presbyterian of the Kings going to the Scats, the Presbyterian anfwered hicn, what would you have had the King done? Would you have had him gone to Ireland} ihe Independent replied, it had been better for us if he had gone r^ for Ireland then now, though maybe not better forhimfelfe; And fince the Kings being with the Scots the Sectaries have ex- prefied themfelves as being afraid of nothing more then the Kings yeelding to the Proportions, and a peace thereupon. A great In- dependent (peaking of the Propositions, (aid, God forbid the King fliould figne them 5 and (bme (peaking of the Kings refuting the Covenant, an Independent faid, Gods bleffing of his heart for re- futing of it : and! have been told from good hands, thatfome of ihe Independent party underhand make u(e of fome inftru meats *£& to keep the King off from taking the Covenant, and hint fome en- couragements to hiai if he refute it, all which (howes the abomi- nable wickednefTe of our Sectaries, that they would rather have had the King runne upon the deftrucYton of himfelfe and his King- don^ then their Independent opinions to be hazarded by the. Kings agreeing with his Kingdome33and fettling of Church and State, 3. The tranfcendenc wickedneMe of the Sectaries and Independent party appears by their evill carriage to;vards our. Brethren of Scotland^ by whom as by a fpeciall meanes under God both the Kingdome and they came in a capacity to be freed from Tyranny and Popery 5 and it harh been acknowledged fince this Parliament , even by fome of themfelves, that they were the firftmeanesandinftrumentsof cafting off oppreffions and Pope- fj^ and how ufefull and inltrumentall from firft to.laft the Scots have beene to this Kingdome and Parliament, all the world can- not but knoWy who knowes anything, and without whofe helpe according to all humane reafon and feccnd caufes the Sectaries had not been ina way of doing the Scots any wrong^notwithftan- ding 2 3 8 A New and further Difcevtry oftbt ding all which, fuch hath beene the horrid ingratitudeof the Se- ctaries , that they have and doe bare them infinitely worfe then the Papifls and Malignants, have with all poffible Art and induftry reproached, vilified them by printing and reporting by word of mouth all kind of eviii of them, fludied to put upon them them all affronts and difg races, (ought all occa- fit os 10 fall out with them, and to engage in warre againft them, not caring to involvethefe Kingdomcs in a moil: deadly and de- structive warre, that they might be revenged on the Scats for the ,grj» Covenant, and the Presbyteriali Government 5 and the Sectaries have a long while made account of a warre with Scotland^nd or- dered many things in reference to that, that they might be ready for it; Many of the Sectaries made fuch reckoning of falling out with Scotlandjhzt the laftyeere fame of them bought many (core chaldron of New-caftle coles, thinking thereby to get a great dealeof money,and being disappointed have loft much by the bar- gaine; others of them perfwaded their freinds to lay in good ftore of Coles for their provifion the laft winter, becaufe of wars with Scotfand- and when Lilbarm wasin pfifonin Newgate up- on Order of the Houfe of Commons, one coming to vifk him in prifonj and giving him twenty (hillings to rdeive him there, LiU fo*rne told him for his love he would doe him this good turne, wifo him to buy in his ftore of Coles, becaufe of a breach that was likely to be with the Scots. It would be too long to relate all the ftories have beene told me of feverall paflages and difcour- fes u(ed by Sectaries tending to a warre with Scotland , both by Sectarian Chaplains, Commanders and others of that way, as preaching to (buldiers of another party, Formalifts rifing up a* gainfhyou, but they (hall fall under you, as the preffing upon iome imployed toTreat with theCavaliers to give them conditions t5* contrary to Ordinances of Parliament and all reafbn, that our Ar- mies might be at liberty to deale with the Scots, as of endeavou- ring to remove fbme Commanders out of the way, becaufe looked upon as great freinds of the Scots , as of feme imployed to (bund and try men in City and Army how they ftood affected to a warre with Scotland^ as faying that they had been upon trie Scots before now but for this Cky3and that they would upon Order from the Houfe Err ours and Proceedings eft fa Sharks. 239 Haufe of Commons^go as willingly againft the Scots, as ever a- gainft the Cavaliers 5 as intercepting and opening of Letters of the Scots, fraying their Meffengers at Courts of Guard by Independent Officers, as — , as —I mall therefore draw to a conclufion upon this head, and conclude, that in the Hiftories and Chronicles that (hall be written of thefe times 3 the Sectaries wickedneffes in reference to the Scots will be re- corded and fully fpoken of, and they will bs infamous for it ro all 'generations , and fome particular men among them who now nold up their heads full high will he by name branded for their falfities and unworthy dealings with the Scots, and not: caring to have involved the Kingdomes in a new warre for their'fancies and New-light , of which themselves hold they have no fucb affiirance or certainty, but before next weeke they may fee a contrary light, 4. Among all other wickednefc fes of the Sectaries, their carriage towards the Kingdome of Inlmd and the Proteftams there is prodigious , ibme of them having }uO:irled that Rebellion, others having reafoned againft fending helpe, niany of them having reeat ded and hind red help from going, none of them as I know having beene forward and earneft for fending 'helpe', but have caft in many ob;e6ti- ons, faifed and nourifhed needlehe fears and jealofies of the Sects ^ and of plots at home,, not earing to have hehnd\o& over and over agarne, rather then their particular opinions or delignes fhpuld in the leaft be hazarded : In the beginning of the Rebellion in Inland , when wee had no Armies on foot j nor knew no: the way of warre, and wanted many advantages we havenow3 yet how was the Houfe of Peeres cried ou£ on > great multi- tudes coming up to 'mftminjler in a i ■tumultuous way, ready to pull the Lords out of their Houfe, and all to haften reieife for Ireland , and to pa#e what was Tent up by the Houfe of Commons in reference to Ireland, and Oh how were thofe Lords branded that were thought any way to delay or obftruc"fc fac* cours for bleeding Ireland} and yet many of t>6fe men who heretofore when helpe could not fofpeediiy ncr effectually be had clamored fc againft the Lords , in a time when all Ar» mies in the Feild have beene fubdued and hardly a Garrifon untakgn 240 A New and further D if covery of the untak^n , and great fpowerfull Armies with all provilions and necefTaries for warre have beene ready, though Ireland hath beene ready to be loft, and in a mod defperate condition, have beene the great meanes of retarding releife , hindrmg many thoufands ready in a body from going, fpeaking againft the the Presbyterians for being (b forward to fend a great part of Army , and giving out there was a plot to fend away the Army, and fuch like; and indeed in this bufinefle of Ireland 9 Scotland, the King, their labouring to keepe all things unfet- ledin Church and State, the great wickednefle of the Se&aries plainly appeares. I here remember what I heard a worthy and knowing Member of the Houfe of Commons 6y upon oc- casion of difcourfe of the Sectaries : How could any man think thefe Sectaries had any confcience , when as to rnaintaine a party and fa&lon they fomented and nourithed jealoulies and differences betweene the Kingdome9, hazarded the lode of Ireland by hindring releife , kept both Church and State from being fettled , and the great burthens of the Kingdome in tax- es and Armies from being taken off, thefe men to keepe up their party, caring not to let Ireland be loft, tbe two King- domes of England and Scotland to be hazarded by a deadly war, Gcds honour and truth to differ, and all things to lie waft as they doe. 5# Their damnable by pocrifie, and abominable diflimu- lation ; and I am perfwaded there never was a more hypocri- tical!, falfe, diflembling, cunning generation in Englan d then ma- ny of the Grandees of our Seftaries. Now their grofle by po- crifie plainly manifefts it felfe in thefe particulars, 1 . they have covered all their pra&ifes and defignes under the pretences of godlinefle , hcndty , faintfhip, purity of Ordinances , tender- nefle of Confcitnce, a perfecl: thorough Reformation, new glorious truths, giving to themfelves and their party the name of Saints, Saints, the godly party, tender Confciences, and under that covert they deitroy all godlinefle, good Confcience, truth, are enemies to holy duties, ftrict obferving the Lords day 5 humiliation , &c. encourage , proteft , and cry up for Saints, Saints, fonnes of Beliall, and the vildeft of men* they have pretended and talked of Reformation, but are all for Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. a Toleration and a liberty for all their party to beleeve and live as they lnft5 they have talked of purity of Ordinances , and "fpoke againft mixed Communion as one of their grand grounds of feparating from us, and yet they have fpoken and done ail they could to keep mixt Communion among us , and to hin- der a more exact and full purity 5 they talkeof tender Confci- r^ encesand Confcience, when as they have Conferences can Cw al- low and digeft any thing, Oftrich (tomacks, can lie groMely, deceive and co2en, prophane the Lords day , make nothing of holy duties, lay traps and fnares to catch men,&c. theyfpeak of new truths and new light, but under thofe notions bring in all abominable Errors and Hereiies into the Church of Gud, pretend the fpreading of the Gofpel, and preaching, but in truth the fpreading and increasing of all Herefics and Schifme. Se- condly, they have pretended, held out felfe deniall, have com- mended the fclfe-denying Ordinance, fpoken much againft mens inriching themfelves, feeking great places in theft times, fpoken of doing- all for the publick , and thac the Common- wealth might not fuffer : and yet thefe men pretending thus, by fuch pretences have got into great offices and places , procu- red great gifts, as other mens eftates , great fummes of mony, great Arrears with the firft and with the higheft , make u(e of their times in their places as much as ever any men did, both for themfelves and their kindred, tonnes, brothers, cofens, freinds; and many of them before being beggars and meane men, are now fat, mining, and growne great. There is hardly a noted Sectary in the Kingdome , or lately come out of Nerv- England, HoSand^&c. who is in any kind capable of an office, place, gift, or refpect, but he is in fome one or other, and hath beene the better for thefe times. 3. The Sectaries have pretended the liberty of the Subject, the publick liberties of the Kingdome- this they have much held out, and this"' they have fought for, they fay, and not Fteligon ; and this is mu h fpoken of in all their Pamphlets and Speeches, whereas Sectaries have for the advan- cing of their owne way and opinions, done the higheft acts a- gainft the liberties of the people that ever were, and indeed make norhing of trampling upon the fubjects liberties and making them flaves , being men that where they are in place, (I i) and A New and farther, DtftoiSerfof tU and have power, carry things arbitrarily, -making their wills lawes, making nothing of going againft Charters, liberties of the peoples ele&ions3 &c. There are many fad Tories in this kind too large to be no\v related, What enemies many of the Sectaries have beene to the peoples petitioning the parliament to m-ike knowne their greivances5what obftrudions and blocks they have laid in their way in that kind by printing of, and wri- ting againft their Petitions before delivered, by branding the Pe- titioners for men ilJ-afTe&ed, refined Malignant^ driving on the Kings defigoe and l know not what, fey preachirig againft their Pedcions,by endeavouring to get Votes and OrdeTs againit Peti- tionSjby labouring to moleft the petitioners to have them fent for to attend Committees5tobe put to charges^ kept in tefecuftody, &c.is we] known to the Kingdom>and fure that's a great part of the liberty and privilege of thefnbjeftvandif they may not be free to Petition, what's* become of the liberty of the fubje£riSuch Prin- ces in all ages as have been looked upon moft for advancing their Prerogative^ opprefimg the people,and been againft al defenfive Arms and other Wayes of the peoples feeking their right, yet (£? Ml granted them the liberty of petitioning and would not pre- judge that*they feave allowed preces & hebryma to be the wea- pons of Ghriftiaflfubfe&s, though not Swords and Guns. Whe- ther many Sectaries are not very forward to keep on foot all burdens and grelvances of the Kingdomes, all payments in their heigbtSjgreat Atmies, Committees complained of, &c. I leave to thofe who know affairs to determine, and if thefe things be for the liberty of cheiubjeft, then are the Sectaries for thefubj.cts liberty. It will bee found that the Seftarles , though they £?* have pretended liberty, yet if they (hould come to have the up- per hand \ they Would make the people of "England the greateir flaves that ever they were in any time, and indeed rule them by an Army , and force inflead of Lawes, and would trample a* much upon the City of London and the Countries as ever John 121= ofLeydm&\& Knip per dolling did upon the poorCitizens oiAdunfter. 4. The Sharks hypomfie appears by their pretending a bare li- berty only peaceably ana quietly to enjoy their owne conferences, and that without any offence or moleftation to others ; And however if this might not be granted after they had helped to over- Errours And Proceedings of the Sectaries. overcome the common enemy, they would quietly fit downe and kave the Ringdove, notour to make any diflt^bance, and this was>held. out along time in their fpeeches, and iq many books . I have heard Matter Pettrs fpeak thus , and lie was wone in many place6 to fpeak thus-; and the Apolpgifts in their dpotyeticzll Narration fupplicate the Parliament to look upon them as tbofe that doe fur fue na otbi? iuUreflor dtfignt but a j'ubjtftence (:e it the pmrefl or meaner) in their ovene L$ndr with the allowance of a la* titHdz u fome ^j^rrf^jSfiWtei^^^^f^A^P^j w -iCt knowing where elfe with ftfety, health and livelihood to fit their feet -on earth i But by thefe and many other fpecious, pretences being increafed in number and po\yer, and haying gotten the fvvorclmtp their hands, now they fpeak out , mi &re not contested i%i^ a bare Toleration, but (land for ail ihQ places of J&wej, honor and pro- fie intheKingdome,cryingouiof the City Remonftrance moft of all, becaufe it petitlojied agajnft Sectaries bang in places of publick traft$ its apparqnt a Domination they aimeac, and to have things in fuch a. pofture that they may fupprelfe all the Orn^^p thodox5 hence many ipeeches have falj en fr9m.the.rn to .this, pur- pofe, that they will never lay downe the fword whiles there's a Preifclefc in England, that they will pack them all away ror 1Lom$ and this laft yeere in n^ny. places where they. come, they ordinarily Will not fuflkrihe Minifters to preach in their owne, Churches, Pulpits,, bus by force hinder thena, yea pull themoiitof Puipics, threaten chem, affault them; hence they will not endure zealous godly Presbyterians ro enjoy any places in the Armies or other ;>vfceje, but watch for iniquity* ufe all tricks and;un}uftavaye§ tQ.keep them out and turne thcrn. out, of w tech fere are in Any: enajiipjes, S. The Sectaries abominable h-ypocri'Se mowes ic^felfe ?r£ yeelding to things againft their mind and coi)fcierjce,that tbere-: by they may be in a capacity and inabled todeftroy and overthrow what they feeraertb be for, working, and ufing all their power a-* gainft. it • as for example many of the Sectaries took the Gove- nanc^aad do «akeit(\3ihicb chey bare with akheir fou's) chat fa they might come into fach'plac%St keep fucb places, where being they improve th©& places all they can- ta deftroy the Govenanr, and the contents of ir, hindriag a Unifprruity aiwLlfee rjeereit cpn- fli2) junftiori A New and further Difcovery of the ju&ion in Government, &c. and are all for a Toleration , and jnftead of endeavouring to extirpateHerefie, Schifme, they pro- mote it all they can, and plead for ftrange forced interpretations and Jefuuicail equivocations of the Covenant, contrary to all iiterall fence, the generall fcope, and the minds of tho(e that made it,alwayesfo declared from firft tolaft. 6, The Sectaries great hypocrifie is feene, in that tn their fpee- ches oft-times, many of their Pamphlets, and for divers of their aftions why they do fiich things, and why they refute this and that, as not hearing our Minitters preach 9 not joyntng to our AfTemblies, not paying their Ty ths, with many fucb, they alkdge the Covenant andbring that for their ground, tis againft fuch an Article of the Covenantor fuch a claufe of an Article, when as tis knowne to God, and notorioufly manifeft to all the world they care not at all for the Covenant, make nothing of it,but daily with a high hand breake every Arcicle,and every claufe of each Article- but their doing and refuting of fuch and fuch things, are upon o- ther grounds and ends, as thefaving their purfes, their deftroying of a fettled Miniftry , the increafing and fpreadingcf all Errors and Herefies, and bringing in of confufion into Church and Stater Icould write a large book upon this fubjecl: how the Seftaries daily break the Covenant, and are indeed like to thofe Ipoken of inVanielii.%2* Such a* do wictydly again ft the Covenant* I will begin with the firft claufe of thefirft Article, indeavouring the prefervation of the Reformed Religion in the Church of Scotland inDottrine,worfhip,Difcipline and Government, &c. when as ahey daily write with all bitternefle againft the Church oiScotland^ their Difcipline and Government, &c.yea, have furthered the printing and fpreading wicked books againft the Government of the Church of Scotland^ written by Prelats, and their greateft ene- mies. O how is Matter Burton in his Conformities Deformity in his i p, 20, 2 i.pagi guilty of breach of Covenant in writing Co againft their Church Government, as to ftirre up Princes and all civill powers againft them, as much as againft tha Popes Supremacies! might proceed to (how though they take the Covenant into their mouth, yet they go againft that claufe of indeavouring to extirpate HerefiejSchifmjprophaneflej&c. on the contrary indeavouring the fpreading and growing of all Herefcs^Errors, and fo I might in the reny Errors and Proceedings of the Seffar/es, refi;but I (hall conclude this with one word, which is, that they are fearfully and hypocritically guilty of the breach of the fo- lemne League and Covenanted that if ever the Sectaries ftlould be a meanes to involve and ingage in a war againft Scotland, our Brethren in their weakeft condition, even when their Annie' s put totheworfe, might in the head of their Armie fpread before God the fblemne League and Covenanted appeale to heaven to help them, as the great Turk did once in fuch a cafe againft the ^^ Chriftians, and might well truft, that God who is a God keeping CC3 Covenant, a God of truth, that helped the Turks againft the Chri- ftians, in fuch a cafe would help them his fervants againft the Co- venant breaking Se&aries. 7. The Sectaries hypocrifie appeares in cafting that upon o- thers , and unjuftly charging them with fuch things which them- fel ves are faulty in, both praftife and pur pofe topra&ife, only (peak againft fuch and fuch things in another party, thac others be- ing fufpetted by this meanes, and they not, they maycompafle their ends the better; thus they have given out many reports^and raited jcalouiies upon many worthy men, as if not right.tbat they (ought not the good of their Country, Religion, but only pre- ferment, and their owne ends, that fo they being taken to be the "^ faithfull men, might raife their owne fortunes, and bring about their owne defignes : many Sectaries have given out things on purpofe of the Scots, that they are falfe, and alwayes were for their owne ends, 8cc. the better to hide their owne bafenefTe, be- ing indeed that themfelves which they falfely caft upon our Bre- thren: Thus the Sectaries give out, that if the Presbyteriall Go- vernment fhould befet up and take pi aceD the people would be made abfblute flaves, and under Egyptian bondage, whereas tii known tis a moft excellent forme of Government, having appeals, and the Democraticall Independent Government a moft flavifh Government where parties muft be Judges, and there fhall be no releif for an innocent wronged perfbn 5 and indeed thefe reports are kept up carefully, fpread by many of the Se&arieSj that out of pretences of liberty, and for feare of (lavery, all things being kept loofe and unfettled, they may come to beare rule by that meanes* be Tyrants and bring in upon the people by degrees both fpiri* tuaJIandcorporallflavery. The Se&aries caft upon the Presbyter* divJion A New and farther Discovery of the diviiioi^being enemies of peace, worldly poiicie, whereas them- selves caufe all our divifions, and hinder peace. Sixthly, the great wickedn.es of the Sectaries appears in their fearful! mocking and abufing the painfull, faklfull Miniiters of God in this King- dome, and the defpifing their wordsj this is by che holy Ghoft reckoned as the concluding finnethat brought that finall mine up- on jzrujikm and Judab, 2 Chron. %6.cbapt. 1 6, iy« Now the Se- ctaries do all manner cf w ayes by word and deed abu(e the Mini- fters, by all kind of reproachfull railing fpeeches, wicked Pam- phlets, detaining their maintenance, andftirring up others to doe che like,difturbing them in the publick difcharge oftheir miniftery, as preaching and praying, invading their Pulpits by force, keep- ing and pulling them out of their pulpits, driving them by vio- lencefrom their houfes and habitations, affaulting them in the way and their houfes, putting upon them (buldiers , and the moft rude to vexe them, cf which there are too many proofs by in- ftances in Oxfordfiire, Nortbampionjjbire^ Wikpire^ Glofierjbire, $om~ rnerfetfoire&nd other Countriesjand their wickedneffe is the great- er, in that they have no refpeft at all to the age,gravity, learning, holinefle of any one, but abufe the aged, the molt learned godly as much as any other, nor no re(pe& to thofeMimfters who have been the Parliaments greaceft freinds,fuffered for them, and have aflifted them always,but ufe them even worfe then Malig,Minifters, nor no refpeft that thefe Minifters aflifted them with their prayers and teares all along in the warre?, but requiting them thus to ieek their deftruttion, who night and day publickly and private- ly fought their preformation, nor no confideration that thefe Mi- nifters whom they now (b abufe, were inft raiments of working grace in them,if Co be they have any at alljnor no confideration of f uch who are more immediatly imployed,fent by the Parliaments authority, but affronting,abufing them to their faces, and in prinr3 as thofe Minifters of the Aflembly fent to Oxford to preach and prepare for the work of Reformation abufed by the Sectarian fouldiersthere; ail which, with divers other considerations , as the godly Minifters faire carriage and refpe&s to them, though contrary minded, &c. exceedingly aggravates the Sectaries finne, and ftpwes them to be monfters rather then men , not only to be void Erronrs and Proceedings of the Se&anes, voidof all Religion and charity, bur of humanity and common civility. And here I mighc adde many things more that clearly fhow the prophanenefTe and wickedneffe of the Sectaries (pints,, as their fcoffing and f orning at fading and holy exercifes, fpeaking by way of reproach of the morning exercife, and giving m Bills among thofe given to the Minifters to pray for perfons, fcoffing at «^3 thefe exercifes of fading and prayer, as at Matter Cafes Churches atMafter&*ws,felf-feekmg,boalting? proud, unthankful!, heady, feirce,unholy,fal(e people,whicb feeing them to be fc, they may follow the advice of Sz.Paul, given j'uft in the fame ca(e,iT*>«- 6.3 4. fpeaking of men doting about qwfiions and dsflituit of the truth. fffppojtng that gain xgodlinejfe, From [itch withdraw thy felf &nd 2Tim. 3.5. Having a form ofgodlirtsjfe, but denying the power thereof, from 'fuch tttrne away. There is a great Senary living in London, a Tradefman, who owed fifty pounds to a Citizen of London, which money this Citi= zsn could nor eafily get, but at laft getting a bond,when it was dug demanded *£0 A New and further Difcovery of the demanded it, and he not paying it, went to an Atrurny to advife with about fuing his Bond, The Acturny wifoed him to try a- gain if he would not pay it by faire meane.c,and to cell him he would put his band in fuit • whereupon this Se&ary promised to pay him twenty five pound Suddenly on fuch a day, and when he came ic Ihould be ready, and the other twenty five atfuchatime, with which anfwer this Creditor was content, andcameonethe dayfct for thefirft 25. li. which this Se&ary told him was ready, and de- iired him to go up into his houfe wiih him, and he mould receive Icj now when he came up into the roome there the 25 pound was ready en a table,but before he had received inputting his hand into his pocket to pull out his handkercher, the Bond for his 50 pound accidentally came forth with it, which as he was looking upon it, £$» this Se&ary came of a fuddain and fnached it out of the mans hand and tore it all in pieces before his face,faying he owed him nothing, whereupon this Citizen being amazed, asked him what he meant$ he faid he owed him nothing, come by it as he couldj to which the Citizen replied, I will have this 25 pound howfoever, and laid hands on ir, but he threatned him to meddle with it if he durft, and knocked with his foot to call up fome body out of his (hop, faying to them this man will take my money from me by force, (b that this honeft man was glad to go away without his Bond or any of the money. Upon this he went to a Counfellor at Law, one Mr. W. related his cafe, defiringhis councell in it. He advifed him to make no words ot it, fay nothing, but at the Seflions endite him, and get a Warrant of a Suddain before he could take councell to fetch him a way,and it may be being (b furprifed he would pay him the money rather then ftand it out toinfwer it at the Seffions : The Citizen followed his advi(e;when theScffions came,had a bill drawn againft him'the Atturney who had (een the Bond witneffed there wasfuch a fpeciall tye, the Bill was found, and a Warrant Cent out for to attach him; the Officer ferving it and threatning prefently to carry him away 5 thereupon this Se&ary conPefled his evill, he entreated his mercy that he would not ftiame him pub- likely,ic mould be a warning to him for ever after5and Co he paying themoney,the man profecuted him no further. The Errors and Proceedings of the Seciaries.] 24 c A Relation of fome remarkeable PafTa- ces of divers Se6taries5 and of the Concents of fcverall Letters wtittcn up here to Ldnd$ny from good hands concerning them. T Here is one Mv. Knotty s an Ariabaptift, fpoken of in my firftpart6f^%r^^, and in this third part page 48.49. a Letter ofhis Is punted- this man preaches up and down in feverall Churches in LondoiiinASquthw0rki\ and that with all fierceneffe againft Children* Baptifme, and againft our Mini- fters, as being Antichnftia:i3 and having no Lai i to baptize, and among other places, where he hath preached lately, he preached this Navernb. the 1 5 . at Cjeorges Church in Hutolpk-lane in the af- ternoone, on thefe words ; He that btleeveth and is baptized Jba/l hefaved, where after he had fpoken of beleeving, in the latter part of his Sermon, comming to fpeak of baptizing, he 11 fed thefe words: (< I have fpoken to you of the fir ft part of the " Gofpell,believing, I muft oe faithfull and fpeak to you of the cc feeond,if*. baptizing, and ofthat there is as great a rieceffity cc as believing, and therefore I advife and charge all you who " believe,to oe baptized, and whereas it maybe you will object, * you are baptized already, I anfwer that is a lye, indeed you c< were rantized but not baptized, and that too was into the c< name of vour God-fathers, which was blafphemy; and not in- ef to the name of the Father, Sonne and Holy Ghoft; befides, M they who did it, had nothing to do with Baptifme, as being tc no Minifters, but Antichriftian : and whereas heretofore thefe " Minifters of the Church of England rantized into the name of C: their Godfathers,now to mend the matter,they do it into the « name of their Fathers. There is one Mr. Sjmonds a great Seclane, Mr. Qradock* Col- league, who came to London iivxztht wars, and preached'at Bt- tie AlhallorvesThames-ftreet , and at the Tower, where I have been informed from godly undemanding men, as well Minifters as others that he hath preached feverali ftrange things, as for a Ii" Toie- 242 A New And further Bifcevery 9ft ht Toleration and liberty for all men to worfhip God according to their conferences, and in favour of Antipaedobaptifme and fo preaching once at Andr ewes Vnderjh aft for Mr. Cjoodwin^ he prea- ched high ftrains of Antinomianifme, as that Chriftwasa legall Preacher and liv'd in a dark time,and fo preached the Law,but af- terwards the Gofpel came to be preached,and preaching ixLatt- rence Ponntneys fummer was twelvemoneth on the day of thanks- giving for taking oiSherbom Caftle,he fpake of the great Victo- ries the Saints had obtained for us, viz. the Independents and yet now the Parliament was making Lawes againft thefe Saints with other things to that purpofe- and as at London he hath preached thus, fo fince he left London this laft Summer he prea- ched at Bath before the Generall ftrange ftuffe (asl have been told from underftanding men who heard him,) viz. againft Pres- bytery, faying it was a limb of Antichriil, pleading for liberty of conscience, and for thofe who would not have their children baptizedtill they came to years of underftanding , and for Wea- vers and ignorant mcchanicks preaching, and fpeaking of thefe mens guifts, and having the fpirit before learned men, and men bred at Univerfities, with a great deale of this ftufe, infomuch that Mr. Boden Minifter of the Bath ( as I was informed) con- futed his Sermon the next Lords day, and fpake againft it info- much that fome of the Independent Souldiers, as C. B. &c. flung out of the Church in the midftofthe Sermon and would not hearehimout; and truly 'tis a fad thing, that Sir Thomas Fairfax that valiant and weil-affe&ed Gentleman, fhouldhave •fuch kind of Chaplains andPreachers upon all occafions to preach before him as Mr. 'Dell, Mr. Saltmarjb, Mr. Teters, Mr. CradocJ^, M. Sjmonds, M. William Sedgwick^ and fuch like ; and I have fpo- ken the more of this Mr. S.jmondsy becaufe I hear he is nomina- ted for one of the Itinerary Preachers of Wales, that fo the Country and Minifters may be ware of him where he comes, and that the Aflembly when he comes to be approved of may doe thcirduties, and not let him pafle fo eafily as they did Mr.Cra- There is Mr. is there not a, lye in my right hand ? The Lord in mercy open his eyes and give him repentance for this laft five years work, and particularly for writing his iaifc Book czYd Conformities 'Deformity* Thrdly, I ffiall propound a few Queries to Mr. Burton , to fhow him how he is miftaken all along in his grounds. 1. Let me ask you Ni. Burton why you are fo angry with the Ma- giftrate,the Aflembly, SionColledge, the City, for eitablifhiug andfetling of Church-Government , if it bee of God, and they are perfwaded fo, why fhould they not be for it ? and if In- •dependency, Brownifme, Anabaptifme,&c. be not of God as they are well alfured. they are not, why fhould they not be a- gainft them, hinder and fupprefle them? M. "Burton you will up- on your raih and weake perfwadon hinde* Presbytery ail you can,, the Adminiftration of the Sacraments in, a Presbyteriall way, may not then the Magiftrate upon ftrong perfwaiions af= ter ferio us debates by a learned Affembiy,and Scripture-grounds Satisfying their confeiences, enacl: by a Law Presbytery^ and for- bid Independency,^. a* HufBjirt?n whether is this a gogd Argument^caufe fere* 24S <~^ new and further Vifcovery of the hoam did evill, by a Law and commandement to fct up the gol- den Calves at Dan and Bethel, therefore *Afay Hez,ehiah, fofiah, &c. might not lawfully command the true worfhipofGod in their Kingdomes , and put down the falfe: and whether may not Magistrate's lawfully make ufe of their power from God for good , becaufe fome Magi ftrates abufe that power for evill ; and if it be no good Argument, as certainly 'tis not, then hath WBurton faid little againft the Magistrates power in matters of Religion, for this is the way of his reafoning in Conformities Deformities and the ftrength of the man. 3. Pray M. Burton let me ask you this queftion , fuppofe the Parliament would by a Law or Ordinance fet up Independent Government and the Church way, would you account this fo great afmne as Hy|)ocrifie, Idolatry, &c. and if not , how can you then, the fetting up of Presbyteriall Government, efpe- cially feeing the queftion is not fo much about this or that par- ticular, but the enacting by a Law that which allfhould con- forme to. 4. Mr. 'Burton, I am ferious with you, pray anfwer me, here are fuch and fuch men hold all kind of errours, and vent them up and down , and they fay 'tis their confeience , would you have i them fuffcred to preach , write and infect all that come neare them? iftherebenofuch evill and danger in errours but they may be preached, printed, why were you fo fierce and violent againft the Biiliops and their Chaplaines for preaching, writing Arminian Popifh points, though they vented them in an orderly way, in comparifon of your Saints, who goe from Country to Country venting errors; in their own Puipits, and when called to preach by Authority; not intruding into other mens Pulpits, and printing with licenfe , not in contempt of Authority. There are divers other Sectaries to be. difcovered, and their waies and preachings laid open, as Greene the Felt-maker, who was one of the firft Mechanicks that prefently upon the hrft .fit- ting of this Parliament preached in our Churches publikely , as itoAlgau^ni. elfewhere , and was one of that company that went over with Colonell Homfiead about Summer was two yearesto Trinidado , but is returned lately, and now preaches in an Alky in Qokman-Hreet^ once on che Lords day, and once on Errors *#d Proceedings of the Seft4rie$. 49 ©atheweekeday, where there is great refortand flocking to him , that yards, roomes and houfe are all full, fo that he caufes his neighbours Conventicles as Cretenfis and others to be oft times very thin, and Independents to preach to bare walls, and empty feats in comparifon of this great Rabbi, as Spencer fome- times the Lord brooks Coachman an early Preacher too,as qor- ton who hath lately fet forth a Book cal'd Simplicities 'Defence againft Seven-Headed Policy, wherein are many dangerous and erroneous paffages, but I cannot fpeake of them now: the fourth part of gattgrana will fupply what's now wanting. I have lately feen divers Letters and fome Petitions that have been written and fent up from &pdly Minifters and others to Worthy Members of the Houfe of Commons, to fome Mem- bers of the Aifembly , to other Minifters in the City y and Citi- zens concerning the infolencies, tumults, and ftrange carriages of many Sectaries, Commanders and Souldiers, as alfo other perfons both men and women of their Seel, but it would be too long to give a Copy of them asl have done of others in the former part of this Book, and therefore I will onely relate the Contents of fome of them: In one Letter a godly Minifter a- boutBriftow writing to a Member of the Aifembly, tells him he had formerly written to him of a preaching Troope that had infeded the Countries with errours , but now he wtites to him that many of them breake into houfes, fteale Horfes, and have been indighted here , Thefe are our Saints (faith he) who need no repentance; I am fur e they need much grace. In other Letters owe of Somerfetjhiere from a godly Minifter who hath done much publike fervice, and is well known (if I fhould name him ) he writes thus, Novemb. 16. 1646- to a godly Minifter in London, I fent the other day into Glofterjkiere for rents, and there out of forty pounds per annum> c< my Mother and my felfe pay five (hil- H lings per diem, and are now to pay fixe moneths Contribution " to Glocefter, befides payes to Briflow, and other taxes : If fuch u things were done in the Scots Army, they would be cryed up u and down London ftreets, fome are refolving to reprefent to u the Houfe the fame things as are reprefented out of the North " and worfe : we are able to do it, and fpeak nothing but truth. " He writes alfo as followes, "The other day Mr. \Greenhill of K k Doding- 2 jo A Ne&and further Difceverj eft be cc Dodmgton in gioftcrjhire was pul'd down out of the Pulpit , cc and one Miniftcr more in Glvfterfbiere W£re pul'd out of their * Pulpits by the Souldiers, and Indepedents put up in their M. Skinner ^o\i take great pains with us in preaching twice everySabboth andCatechi- zing, but all comes but to one Sermon in the end of the yeare. On the 25. of October, Coloneli Bewfon came into Wellington Church, and there interrupted the Mm lfter one M.Tmr, as hee was at Prayer, and then afterwards as he was reading the firft chapter of the Proverbs, and alfo as he did expound the forefaid chapter. The Church was made a prifon for the Souldiers fevc-ii or eight daies and nights, there they made a tire in the Chance!.', and tooke Tobacco in the time of Prayer and Preaching. In the ^ forefaid Church did Coloneli Hewfon, and Major Axfion preach, the one in the forenoon, the other in the afternoone being the rfc day of October. In Maj laft one M. Rafte/Iof Sydnam prea- ching on the sf. of x^fath. 20. Except your righteoufneile,&:c. one Captain 3{evilU Captain of a Troop of horfe in Col. Rich his Regiment, being then and there preient darted up and faid, and, further Difcovery efthe A Reverend Minifter in Oxfordfbutre having lately occafion t0 admonifli his Parishioners to cake heed ofAnabaptifme/or th a they denyed the Lord Chrift that bought them by his blood fhed fignifiejiin Baptifme by water; For in Baptifme we put on Chrift, gal. y 27. but if we be baptized again we deny him,and put him of as the Anabaptift doth3 upon which Sermon an Inde- pendent neighbour defired to heare the Minifter againe on that paint, which accordingly the Minifter did on the Lords day Novemb. 22. taking that text Math. 28. 19. v. And ufed A rgu- ments to did wade from Anabaptifme, fork was a denying and putting orTof Chrift, whom by oath they put on in their Bap- tifme : Now Lievetenant Webb hearing of this Sermon , did in the afternoone preach on the fame Text Math. 28. ip. bragging (£f* that he could by the fpirit do as much ex tempore, as that Mini- fter by ftudy. The Minifter hath fent to entreat a Copy of his Sermon, with a promife of giving him a Copy of his, that fo the world may judge, coniidering all their boaftings, who comes ncareft to the fpirit of God. I have received fome Letters of late written to me out of the Country, bewailing the great oppreflions and fuff'erings fome of Gods Minifters undergoe both in their owne houfes by foal- diers laid upon them, and in Gods houfe by being difturbed and affronted in their Mmiftry, wherein I am ftirred up not to faint in profecucing the good caufe of Gods Minifters oppreiTed, and his Churches m thefe parts laid waft, and the Minifters cafe is,. thus reprefented to me. cc The Romane Clergy have been Solo- Ci mons ftagellam on u> many years. I but now the Lay-Clergy, %3* c' thefe preaching Souidiers are worfe, they be Rehoboams c' whips of Scorpions, worfe then Solomons and Rehoboams , cC yea then the Spanifh whip in 88.TheLord give us all grace that rd jefuscoine quickly, and whip out all thefe Inde- iili':ppers out of Ehy Church- with a dog-whip. A Errws And?receidiugs$ftht Sectaries. 255 , A godly Citizen of good quality and a Common-Counceli man, being in company with another Common-Counceinnan , and a young Schollar, Chaplain to one of the late SherirTes of London, and fome other company, they being in difcourfe about many paflfages of thefe times,he told them this ftory(which with-, in a day or two after the Common-Counceli man and the young" Chaplain told me with all the names of the perfons and circumftances of it) that a great Independent , I will not fay a Member of the Houfe of Commons , being defirousto get ano- ther great Independent to be a Burgefie of Parliament for a place of note within leffe then 60. miles of London , fpoke to this Citizen about it to further it, as having fome chapmen in that Town, and the Mayor alfo his great friend, whereupon this Citizen did ftirre in it to make theMayoi and others for this In- dependents Independent friend, and rncanes were ukd to get voices : but after fome triall of getting voices the Mayer of the Town fignirled that he thought another man who ftood would carry it, moft inclining.to him, and that they fnould not have voices equall for this man, which this Citizen being certified of, acquainted this Independent how the cafe ftobd, and that it would be in vain for his friend to ftand, but he made little of that, entreating him that the Mayor and' thofe who were for him would go on to give their voices , and though he had the fewer voices, yet get him but returned by the Mayor,that it may ,j31 tome to the Committee of Priviledges and then we fhali doe well enough with it , at which fpeech this Citizen flood amazed, and wondred to heare fuch words' come from fuch a mans mouth, and would have no hand to meddle further in it ; Ar.d I am of the mind upon good grounds ( which if there be not a redrefle, I am likely to pub$li in print to the end the whole Houfe of Commons may come to know and foremedy it ) that there is great need of an efTecluall review of divers Elections of new Members, fome fitting and voting in the Honfeof Com- mons who have no right at all, and other men whofe the un- doubted right is are kept out by tricks and devices, which in this ^ juncture of time wherein fo many great affaires of Church and State have been and are in agitation , and votes of greateft con- cernment fbmetimes carryed but by two or three voices, vea "by nii — gg- 256 ^A mw md further Difcovtry 4>f tht by one voice, cannot but be a mighty prejudice both to Church and State, every voice offuch a man being two, his own voice going according to that interefthe judges will keep him in,and in the interim hindring another voice which according to allrea- fon may be judged wouid vote contrary* Some Corollaries and * Confedtaries drawne from the Errours, Hcrefies, Blafphe- mies and Infolent proceedings of the Se&aries laid down in this third part. OAving made fourteen Corollaries in my firft part of Can* gr&na and fixe other in my fecond part,Ihad thought of four- teen or fifteen more for this third part,with many enlargements in moft of them , but becaufe I fee if I (Wild give that liberty to my invention upon every one of thofe heads as I at firft inten* ded,theCoroilaries would take up divers ilieets,! frail therefore (this Book being already almoft forty Sheets) give the Reader but 6. or 7. of them now , and that in as contracted a way as I may, referring the reft, with all further enlargements to the fourth part of Gangraena. 1. Coroliarie. Hence then from what I have laid downeirt this third part of the Errours, Herefies, Infolent proceedings of the Sectaries of our times, we may fee thofe places of Scripture iri2.Tim. 3. chap, from 1. v. to the 10. 4. chap. 3.4. v. vEpiftle of 'Pet. 2. and 3. chapters, and Epiftle of fude made good and fulfilled in our Sectaries ; and that in all particulars as if they had been written and prophecied a parpofe of them; As face anfwers face in glaffe, fodoour Sectaries thefe Scriptures , they being the full accomplifhment of thofe places and thofe Scriptures; the expreffe and lively characters of our Sedaries:I do not know any one particular among thofe many fet down by 7^#/, Teter and fade, in thofe forenamed places our Sectaries faile in , but are in all points as like to thofe as one egg is like another ; and there- Err ours tnd ? met dings #/ the Sectaries. 257 '• * " ' ' ' —.11 IM m[tm therefore though divers other places of Scripture in the Epiftles of l>aul and the Revelation of St. John do fpeake of the Papacie , zsthzi.Thetfal. 2. chapter, i.Tim. 4. chap. 3. firfl verfes, 11. chapt.ofi^W. 17. and 1 8. chap, of Revel, yet thefe doe point out the Anabaptifts, Antinomians, Libertines, and Separatifts, as diftinguifhed from Papifts ; and if I fhould but barely tran- scribe thofe places of Scripture, without any application, as men. fhallbe lovers a f their own f elves, covetous, boafters^proud, blajphe- mers, difobedient to parents, fierce, defpifers of thofe that are good , Tray tors, heady, high minded,lovers ofpleafures more then lovers of Cjod, having a forme ofgodlinejfe , but denying the power thereof: For of this fort are they which creepe into Houfes, and lead captive filly women laden withfinnes, &c. as through (fovetuoufnefc fhall they with fained words make Merchandtfe of you , as that there JhaH come in the lad daiesfcojfers, walkjng after their owne tufts , there fhould be mockers in the I aft time who fhould walke after their owne ungodly lufts, as likewife alfo thefe filthy dreamers defile the flejh, dejpife dominion, and fpeake evill of dignities, as there are cer- taine men crept in unawares \ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lafcivioufnejfe , as thefe are murmur cr s , complainers , walking after their owne lufts, and their mouth fpeaketh great fw el- ling words, having mens perfons in admiration because of advan- tage, Thefe be they who feper ate themf elves Jenfuall, having not the fpirit, with many other paflages in [ thofe Scriptures, yet they that runne might prefently read them as written in great Letters in the foreheads of the Sectaries : For was there ever in our times a generation of greater felfe-feekers, boafters , proud, blafphemers, Covenant-breakers, unthankful], make-bates, hea- dy, defpifers of thofe who are good, mockers and fcoffers wal- king after their own ungodly lufts, defpifers of Dominions and fpeakers evill of dignities , having a forme of godlineffe , but denying the power thereof, and fo in the reft,then our Sectaries: let the indifferent Reader but remember what I have written up- on moft of thefe heads in this and my other Bookes, what fpiric breathes daily in many of their own Books, as Arraignment of perfecution,y^rr/»/Eccho,Englands Birth-right, Thirty eight Queries upon the Ordinance againft Herefies, Toleration J uni- fied, a Demur to the Bill againft Herelies, Lilbmnesini Over- L 1 tons 260 A nm and further Difcoveryef the tons Books , the English Scottiih game and what they have done ami do daily againft our Brethren of Scotland, the godly Minifters, the City of London, &c. and then I believe hee will confeffe there never was a more defperate, ungodly, falfe, hypa- criticall, unthankfull, proud, ambitious, covetuous, uncleane, erueil, atheifticall generation then many of our Sectaries in England are. It would be too long now to paraphrafe upon all thofe Scriptures quoted, to compare our Sectaries with every character of thofe Scriptures, and to give proofesin divers in- ftances and fads, I (hall conclude this Corollary, that they arc fcofters and ungodly men, walking after their ownelufts, by relating a pafTage or two of fome Sectarian Souldiers belonging to Colonell whdejes Regiment, A chiefe Difputant of the Sectaries laid that he would not keep out of Ale-houfesfor five hundred pound a yeare for the good wits that he met there , yet objecting himfelfe by way of fcorne, that i fit offended his weake Brother he mnft not doe it : Being by way of reproofe told of one that faid it was beftgoing to Hell,for the brave wit's •were there, he replyed that if that were true, he would goe thi- ther for then God was there,faying that God was as much in hell as in heaven : anfwer being returned'him , that God would be found inHell in power- he replied that his prefence in power and in grace could not be diitinguiihed. A Woman being occasio- nally fpoken of in the company of fome of thefeSectarics that Hie (Cf* was faid to be a whore, they faid God had fo ordered it , and if "file were a whore it was as well with her as if (lie were honefr. 2. Coroll. Hence then from all thatLibertinifme and loofeneffe of life in our Sectaries, we may fee what unfound and corrupt Doctrine will produce, and bring forth fooner or later, yfe,. wick- ed life and loofenefle of manners , and though many of the -firftBroachersofHere'fies and Schifmes, atfirfthave beene out- wardly holy and ftrict in their lives,as Vtlagim , Scbwenckfddius , Thomas luched up by^ the rootes, fo TWfpeaking of the feducers and the Teachers of falfc Dodrin° 2, Tim. 3. that fhall refill the truth as James and Jaw bres did Afr/^5defcribes them to be *W.# prophane and wicked men lovers ofpleafures more then lovers of God , men of corrupt minds evill men, &c. Donatus and his followers who would not acknowledge Ctcilianus and his company for a true Church of God becaufe they were not pure and holy enough, but thereup- on fell into fchifme and divers errours, yet he and his followers fell to all wicked manners, as ^Auguftine fhewes in many of his writings.againft the Donatifts, yea in time they grew fo. info- lent as to commit many rapes, robberies and murthers, and to proceed fo far in offering violence to the Orthodox, that Hew rivu the Emperour was forced to fend 'Dulcitius with an Army of fouldiers to reftraine their injury and violence. <>Auguftine in his third Book againft Crefconim grammatxay. 42.e£r.{howes that thefacls and courfesof the greateft robbers and Theeves were far leflfe and lighter then of the (fircumceUiones among the Donatifts. * PrifcilUanus a Bifihop who held many opinions of + DiB feemingholineffe, condemning all fort of flefh, and their eating Auauft#deha:, as polluted and unlawfull, condemning Marriages, and perfwa- rcGSus.c-7©. dins his followers to divorce from their wives, this man confef- fed before his death that in his conventicles he had often com- mitted filthineffe^d violated the chaftity of women of his See?, LI 2 among 26o A Hew and further Difeevery 0/ the among whom one was Euchrotia the wife olDelphidius theRhe- * Span!i«mii toritian.The *Anabaptifts of Germany at their firft fpringing up Diatribe Hi- were fujj 0f fecming holinefle, mortification, full of devotions, iiQ^Proereff &&"& P«yer, fo that they were offended with the Evangelicall Ic^s&nom* Churches, becaufe many wicked livers were in their Affemblies, Atubapt.pag. and becaufe their preaching had no more power to make thofe 4. s .Hinc. & good who heard it, which made Luther and fome other worthy publicarum men 0f tnofe times at firft to favour them, write in their behalfe privatonun & wnen momoi &Com- many men wno before they were Se&aries,or upon their firft en- ffiis difcmlinx trance that were famous for the power of godlineffe, being contemptus no w Libertines and licentious, making no confeience of the Sab- tftedambsre- both, Family duties,&c« Tis evident that with the errours of the Icon pcrpctua times a flood of ungodlineffe i* come in upon us, iniquity aboun- •?mdaerl and fo others Nation In the Epi of them to feverall great Sectaries that I could name 1 I dare be ftle Dedicatory bold to fay, and can prove it, that the old Anabaptifts never de- and the Keply to livered or held principles more deftruclive to humane fociety to M. Love, vapours ^ ^^ 0£ Government, both Political^ Ecclefiafticall and Oe~ of himfeif and his conomicalj3to all godlineffe andReligion,then many of ourSecla- ull ^the povv- nes; nay I believe no inftance can be given of them whilft they erof'the Sphit, were under command, and in the hands and power of the civill &c, but makes t*c Magiftrate, that ever they carried themfelves fo fcornfully and Affembly, Mr. contemptuously to the fupremeftCourts andjudicatures of King- .zm- miflion were iffued out from both Houfcs to faithful! godly men ( and they backed with fuch power not to fear the Sectarian foul- diersj to fit in the feverall Counties to examine and enquire out the infolencies and enormities of the Sectarian fouldicrs and Chaplaines that were in the noble Earlc of Manchefiers Army ,, and now in Sir Thomas Fairfaxes Army, with affurance of pro- te&ion to the complainants and witneffes ; there would be the dreadfulleftand abominableft things found out both in opinions & practifes that ever were heard of in anyArmy of Chriftendom,, andmoftof the Cavaliers would be found Saints to them, fo that 'tis evident there's more necd'of disbanding and caihicring the Companies and Regiments confiding moftof Antinomians, Anabaptifts, Seekers, Antifcripturifts,&c.then of VandrHskj Regiment, of which there were fo many outcryes, and that juft- iy too as I believe, . 7. Corollar. Hence then by what is laid down in this Booke of the Errours, He refies, Practifes , infolencies of the Sectaries we may fee that never in any age or in any Chriftian State or l£ingdom,whether Orthodox or Hetrodox Protcftant or Popifli hath there been fuch a fufterance and Toleration of thofe who have been contrary minded to the Religion eftablifhed by civil! ' Authority, as hath been and is in our Kingdome. The Sectaries talke much upon all occafions of Toleration and liberty of con- fcience in Holland, Poland, Tranfylvania, France, Switzerland, (Turky, but let any man look into thofe Countries and but nn- derftand aright what is allowed in thofe places, and then confi- der what is daily practifed in England and fufFered without all' qucftioning, and he rauft needs confefle there's no fuch liberty norToleration in any of thofe places; enquire and*aske after- Holland, France, Poiand,&c. where there are Tolerations, whe- ther, Sectaries, or DifTenters from what's fetled by the civilr Sanction, do come into publike Churches, caufing tumults andv riots, and by violence put by the Minifters from preaching, pul- ling them out of their Pulpit?,_abufing them groftely, and preach openly with all kind of reproaches againil: the eftablifhed Reli- gion ? whether Books are fufFered to i>e printed with licenfe and Ibid openly, venting all kind of errours, blafphemies, yea bran- ding- Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 269 ding with mod: odious names the Religion eftablifhed, and the fupreme Authority who fettles it.? yea daring to prefent into the hands of , and at the doores of the houfes where the fupreme * Coraewelte Judicatories fit, Bookes and * Pamphlets , with * Proreftati- \lfic^fh)(i ons againft what themfelvcs have enacled? whether great num- commifRonCm* bers of Emiflaries, Mechanicks of all forts arc furTered to be dai-fefiion of Faith ly fent forth into all parts of their Countries and Kingdoms to of the An*ha?~ draw away the people from their Religion? and if any man *#*. in authority dare be fo bold to moled them, though thcyabufc * A TT^y" Magiftrates to their faces, yet they are one way or other delive- V™ Anthony " red, and prefently fall the fafter to their work again, whether Lutheriefike the way to preferment and places of honour, profit, truft, com- of Veaee. mand be in thofe Countries to oppofe and to be moft active a- gainft the Religion and Government eftablifhed? and the ready way to be kept out of all fuch places, and by one device or o- ther to be turned out, yea to be brought in trouble be for a man to be zealous for the Religion and way of worfhip fetied in that Country ? whether in any of thofe Countries if thofe who be Hercticks and Schifmaticks, or Difl'enters only from what the Magiftrates of. the Countries have eftablifticd being card in que- ftion by thofe in higheft place for writing againft and reproa- ching their Ordinances and Lavves, and thereupon affronting them to their faces and writing Bookes publikely againft them , have they notwithftanding continuing in all contempt efcaped without pun ifhment? and received thofe favours andpriviled- ges which none before them ('though never fo conformable to the Lavves and State ) have received , and fo I might inftance in many other like particulars : Now I challenge any man in all his reading or travellings give me any fuch inftances in Holland, EranceyTranfylvania,:Turky,&c. but lean give manyproofes in all thefe kinds within thefe three laft yeares in England. In the Biftiops times before this Parliament there was great favour (hewed towards Papifts and perfons Popifhly affected, but did they come into our Churches eftabliihed by Law and bringing their Priefts put by our Miniftersfrom preaching and celebrating the Lords Supper, and fet up againft the will of the Minifters and Parishioners their owne Priefts to preach points of Do- &rines,andcofay Maffe; or did the Biftiops when Popery was- Mm 3 moft %yd A New and further 'Difcevtry of the moil: countenanced , fuffer Popiil^ Books railing againft our Mi- niftery, Church, &c. to be iicenfed by their Chaplains and fold openly ; In the Kings late Armies where (as it hath been repor- ted) there have been many Papifts and Popifli Commanders, yea, and Priefts, did they ever where they were quartered drive away by force the Proteftant Minifters,and in the midft of the publike exercifes on Lords dayes come with their fouldiers and difturbe them in Prayers,prcaching,and put up their Priefts in their rooms? I never heard of any one fuch example in this kind; O what out- cryes would thefe things have made if done either by BiHiops or Papifts, but thefe things are ordinarily and daily practifed by the Sectaries; Indeed the liberty the Sectaries now have in En- gland is rather a Domination then a Toleration, a Raigne rather then a fufferance, yea their Raigne and Domination is fwel'd fo high that the godly Minifters and Chriftians who are for the Church-Government and way eftabliftiedby Parliament have much adoe to be tolerated andfuffered, nay in many places they cannot ferve God quiet ly,nor live in peace but are affronted, mo- lefted/threatned, yea their lives hazarded: The Domination and Jnfolencies of the Sectaries in England both in City and Country are unfufferable,and beyond all example^and let but all things be considered, the nature of the Lawes and civill Govern- ment of England that all the people are fubject to the fame Lawes, and all the Countries of this Kingdome under the obe- dience of King and Parliament, none exempt, not fome parts under one, and fome under another, as in the Cantons and fome other Countries, as alio that great and folemne Covenant taken for the neareft uniformity in Doctrine, Government, &c. and the extirpation of all herefie, fchifme,&c. with fome other fuck like confiderations, I am ready upon my life to make it good at the *Barr of both Houfes,that there is in England the greateft fuf- ferance and countenance of a Diffenting party from what is held out and eftabliftied by Authority,that ever was in any age where there was a Chriftian Magiftrate, or that is in any part of the world whatfoeverat this day:the Toleration inHolland,France, Tranfy lvania,&c. in many things felling ftiort of that liberty the Sectaries here enjoy . I had thought upon and drawn up twelve pregnant particulars with the proofes wherein the Toleration here Err ours and Proceeding s of the Sectaries. 271 here is greater then in thofe Countries, but I muft defer them till the fourth part of Cjangr&na, having enlarged this part al- readyfo much beyond the former parts, and my intentions, and (hall conclude this feverith forollarie> that if the Sectaries fhall be ftill fufFered to go on and all kind of errors and opinions ven- ted for the future, as they have been for thefe three or foure laft years, this will be fuch a thing as never was read or heard of in any age , or among any people , that the end and iflue of a fo- lemne Nationall Covenant made with God another Kingdome and one another for Reformation, Should end in a univerfail Toleration and Confufion both in Church and State. 8. Corollar. Hence then we may plainly fee by many fpee- ches, paflages in Letters, fads, infolencies of the Sectaries rela- ted in this Book, that the Sectaries hold not to their principles of Toleration and Liberty of Confcience, but only in receiving it , they will not give it ( when and where they have the pow- er of giving it ) unto others : The Sectaries in all their Bookes, Sermons, Speeches, Difcourfes contend for liberty of Confci- ence, and that no man fliould fufFer any thing from another for his differing in opinions from him, or be hindered in printing andfpeaking his confcience, and yet if the Reader do but re- member the feverall paflfages J have laid down of the Sectaries dealings with godly Presbyterians in City and Country, Army and Miniftry, and in all places, he muft neceffari]y conclude when they are grown ftrong enough, and where they can they will fuffer none but themfelves. In all agesHereticks and Sectaries at their firft rifing, when but a few and weake have cryed for Tole- ration, liberty of Confcience, but when by being let alone they have grown to great numbers, and by their induftry, fubtilty and activity have got power in their hands, then they hare been thegreateftperfecutorsofallothertfj denying all liberty to the Orthodox, and this the Ecclefiafticall Hiftories of all times both ancient and moderne fhow. Thus the 'Donatifts, *Arrians> Antr iraptifts of Germany, zArmimans in Holland with other fuch like maintained and pleaded for toleration tanqttamp™ arU drfocis^ iand yet after a time that either they got Princes and Magiftrates on their fides, or being increafed in number got the fword into their hands3 they killed, banifhed, fpoiled of their goods, threw 4^ 2fz k^4 new And farther Difcovery of the Socrates ouc °^ °^Ges and -places allthofe who were not of their opt- c j , a- nions. Scholajtic. lik i.e. 21.22.23. relates at Urge the Arrians.and Sebaftianusd Manichee far fill perfections and unheard of cruelties again ft the Orthodox Bifhops and people: The violence truly was no lefe then that of eld , praEHfed towards the Christians ? when they -were compelled and drawn to facrifice unto Idols* For many endured fnndry kinds of torment , men racking and difmembring of their joynts, confis- cating of their fub ft ance : Some bereaved of their native foile, other fome depar~ ted this lift under the hands of the tormentor ■; fome dyed in banifbment , and never f aw their Country again. They banifhed divers Bifhops, and being bereaved of their native foile they handled fo roughly, that fome of them dyed by the wayy fome other in exile never returning again. They put to death above ^0.*BiJh ops. They followed the fteps of wicked Ahab , imploying all their care and induftry for the rooting out of the truth from of the face of the earth. Danauis in Auguft. de Ha> refib. cap. 69I fljowes, when the T>onatiflswereincreafed in number^ and had infe^ Bed all Affrica, (0 that many whole (fit ies fell to that way, they then grew info lent and offered violence to the Orthodox till Dulcitius a Tribune of Souldiers being fent againft them by Hoaorius the Smperor reftrained their violence and inju- ries again]} the Chriftians. Thomas Mtintzer preached that all things Jhould he in common according to the example of the Primitive Church , and thofc cfthe richer fort who would not be perfwaded by Arguments, he by force and far efworfe compelled them thereunto : At CMunfter community of all goods is com* mandedbythe Anabaptifts John of Leyden, Knipperdolling, &c. upon paine cf death : j ohn of Leyden rageth again ft ihofe that dijfented , and by the flaughter cf a great many ftrcngt hens his Tyranny ; (0 that upon the pleafure of this man depended not only the eftates \ but even the lives of every one of the Citizens, Whomever dttrft butjpeal^ a word in jefl of the ^Prophets , was accufed of Treafon, and made a facrifice to the lx*s of thofc mifcr cants ; and all divine and hu- mane right trodden underfoot. Spanh. Diatr. Hiftori. Hence 'tis an obfervati- on of Vedelius in his Arcan.Armin. par. 4.lib.2. cap. 8. that the difpo/kion of He- retickj isfuchythat 'tis impoffiblefor them when they have got ftrtngth , to modi- rate themfe!vesfrom perfecuting of the Orthodox. And thus our prefent Independents and Anabaptifts not- withstanding all their pretences of liberty and confciencc have and do ( where they are in power and can by any way or means iupprefle) profecutc Presbyterians to the utmoft,and indeed for this very end plead for liberty, and worke night and day to get into all places of power and command both military and rivi!! that th r\i mav Arftrnv rUem. Tti Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries \ 27 j » ., — — - » . . _^___ ,- Ic were too long Co relate all the inftancesof godly Milliters and other worthy men troubled and complain d of by them to Committees, of honeft Chrifthns troubled by their means for difcharging their comciences in petitioning the ParJiam. nc i and Common Councell, of all thegodly Minilters put b fr m prea- ching in their owne Churches by Se&aries, and c ibcir rcfufing toletgodly Minifters of the Presbyterian judgement preach in any Chappels and Churches where they have power, of the many threatning fpeeches fpoken by them again!* the godly Minilters, that they would leave never a Pretftin Englwd, chat the Presbyte- rians mould be dealt with as Malignanrs, fequeftred ere long, and fuchlike, of thtirnot licenfing anybooksor matters of Intelli- gence, but ftv pping the Piefle all they can to men not of their judgement, of their incenfing and ftrri ig up the Parliament in printed books to punifh godly Minifter for laying open the Er- rors of the time?, of tlieir labouring to keep out of all places in Parliament, Armies, Living?, &c. Orthodox godly men, of their putting affronts upon, hindrlngof pay, turning out of places by one trick or other the faithfulleft and worthieft men, if Presby- terians, yea going againlt all principles of Jaftice, Honor, Rules ^^^ of Warre, Gallantry : What mould I (peak of ail the afTrontsa C^-"f neglttts, complaints of, trouble?, vexations, which have happened to many gallant, valiant, faithfuil Commanders, and all beciufe An i-lnd. pendent?., by me?r.es of the Sectaries, as Sir Willam fc^Zfrr, Major General Majfty, Ma^or General Sk*pfon, Colo- nel Harvey, Colonel Kingy Colonel Wbdzy, Major Fischer, Adju- tant Generall Gray, Lieutenant Colonel Kempfon, Lieutenant Co- lonel Jac^Cn^c. btd 'es the putting by of (ome from their pla- ces; what gallant man alraoft is there, but hath beene heaved at, complained of fome way or other, affronted bv f me Se Varies, and neglected by having men put over their h ads into commands, and they unpreferd, though places void : There are ftra- ge , but true «V.ries m the Armv in his kind, and fome keepe a Rigifter of them, ■■-■'' — * a good hand upon the occasion of Ad/ucant Generall Grayes be- IngquefUonedata Councellof Warre for reading ih? City Re* moniirance, that a great Commander of that Army writ a letter to another great Commander to this effect, that he wondred that they who were Co much for liberty of confidence, and a Tolerati- on for themfeives, would not afford the fame to other men $ but that Adjutant Generall Gray, because he was a Presbyterian, and that according to his confeience mould have Articles put in againft him, and be (b violently profecuted: And if the Sectaries dare do thus whilft they are a labouring for a Toleration fas they (ky) before they know whether they mall prevaile and have the iipper hand, when tis evident the Houfe of Peeres, the Kingdom of Scotland^ih&dvj-ol London^ the Miniftery of the Kingdome and the body of the people are againft them, yea and whatever they vapor the greater part of the Houfe of Commons too, what will they do if ever they mould get their way eftablimed by a law, and come to have all the ftrengthof the Kingdome in their bands, what will they doe when they are matters of the Presbyte- rians, that thus perfecute them whilft they are Probationers £ Qjid facient Domhis audevt cum talia fares ?>■ and therefore by thefe beginnings of Perfecution,thefeKingdoraesof England and Scotland mzy judge what to truft to, and look to fmde,if ever thefe men come to have power in their hands : they will be as bad a$ the Circumceilicnts among the Donatift $* as thofe Anabaptifts to the Citizens of Mtmpry they will be defperate persecutors of the faithfull Minifters of Ghrift, thinking they mall doe God good fervice in killing them. The Lords may know what to truft to if ever the Sectaries prevaile, The Scots had beft look to it alfo, they &* will finde them worie neighbours a hundred times then ever the Biftops were, all the reformed Churches had need contribute their help againft them, for if they prevaile, they will all fuffer and be much difturbed in their place* The Aflembiy of Divines mall feele their liberty of confeience, The City of London and Citizens (hall be reckoned with, and paid for their Petitions and late Re- monftrance; The Houfe of Commons alfo may affure them- (felvesjthey (hall feele their power when they are grown ftrong enough, as is evident by many threatning paflages in Pamphlets of Erroitrs and Proceedings of the Sectaries. \ 75 of the Se&aries,efpcciallythofe Members of the Houfe who are not theirs, but have vigoroufly appeared againftih&m, they will **pt pull them out by the head and ears, and kick them out of the Houfe: Certainly the Houfe of Commons ib great and under- loading abody,notwithftanding many flattering Petitions of late to them, crying them up in late Pamphlets above the Houfe of Peers, and protefting deeply to be at their fervice and command againft all the world, cannot be fo weak as to beleeve them, and to think if the Sectaries get power in 10 their hands, and over- throw the Houfe of Peers, Minifters, City, that they (hall efcape and Rot follow after : they have written, fpoken, done as much a- gainft them as the Houfe of Peers, Minifters, Citie, and no que- stion will again as they fee their advantage, or are difcontented, or upon fome new light that they were not chofen by all the free- ^ men of England^ but only by the Prerogative men the Freehol- ders : No man knowes where thefe Sectaries will flop or ftay, or to what Principles they will keep , and is there any fafety then in adhering to fuch a party, and caring to pleafe them who are off and on ; Tis evident even in thole Bocks made againft the Houfe of Peers,and in wbichthe Commons and their Power are fo cried Up , that many things are laid down deftru&ive to that Houfe, and in the midft of flattering the Houfe of Commons^ they brand them with injuftice, medling with what they have no- thing to do with,as raattersof Religion ; As the fit takes them they now will crycrucifie them,crucifie them, but what may they ex- peel: from that party if once all the Militia and ftrength fhould be in their hands? To conclude this Corallary, I fay, God keep me and all true Presbyterians from that liberty of confeience the Se- ctaries would give us if we lay at their mercy, and liberty of con- feience were theirs to give. 9. CoraU. Hence then from what 1 have laid downe of the Seftaries, as in a Mirrour and GhrifUll Glafle we may with open* facebehok the true bottomeca ufe of all our evils and mifcheifs both m Ciiurch and S^ate,the maine reafon of the oburu&ions of all good thf ng9, why ileligion and Church Government not yet fettled , why Ireland not releived, peace not attained , and the great ground of all the miferies upon us, why fuch jealofies and N n 2 differed- 276 A Nw and further Difcovery cf the differences have beene betweene England and Scotland, (uch dis- contents taken at London > why the AfTembly and godly Mini* iters of the Kingdome flighted , many well-afTe&ed Counties ■ offended, Petitions not regarded, the weil-affe&ed discoura- ged, many great greivances not remedied, many Delinquents protected and not called to an account , ftrange Articles given to (bmein Armes at fome places contrary to Ordinances of Parlia- ment, illegall elections of Members of the Houfe of Commons taking place , (b many fcandalous pamphlets againft Monarchie, the Houfe or Peers and Houfe of Commons fold openly, fuch high infolencics committed againft the Houfe of Peers as never were in any age, with many more, namely that great love and favour of SeSarifme and Errors in too many perfbns of our limes : This is the fpring that feeds all our evils, , the pimum mobb- fe, or great wlieele that turns all the reft about : Hence tis no mat- ter though Ireland be loft, Englandund Scotland embroyledj Par- liament and London at a diftance, the godly Minifiers hearts loft, the Kingdome offended, Armies and great Taxes continued, &cr rather then any thing be done againft Sectaries : Se&aries mutt not be dif-eafed or difpleafed what ever come of it, they mult, be nourifhed and increafe , Era fir an principles rauft be maintained and cried up , prophanefle let alone, open wicked men joyned with, and all to further Sectarifme and Liberty of Confcience (b called. Whofiever knowes and hath obferved the prefent af- fairs aod line of things cannon but fee the truth of what I now fay; and I challenge any man to initance in any one thing at leatt for thefe laft twelve months, wherein fo many evils have been and are upon us>but I will rationally refblve intothat,and though other pretenes have been held out, asfbmetimes priviledges, fometimes the liberty and fafety of the fubje&, fome t iines god 1> nefle, fometimes unfeafonablefle an unfit time , 8cc* many things folded together, j nd indeed the love of Se&arifme fometimes fo wrapt up in them that not difcerned by all,asin all ages men haye not wanted pretences, yet tis apparent to all wife men that this is the very caufe. Is it not evident whatever hath been pretended, the true caufe of all the jealofies , differences and; faults found wish the Stots , to bee a great love and care Errors and Proceedings of the Seffar/es. 277 care of Se&aries whom we know the Scots (o hate , and there- fore have done it out of revenge? Is it not evident the true and only reafon of the. Cities being To flighted, reviled 3 fuch a change of carriage towards them to arite from their appea- ring againfttheSe&s and Errors of the limes, and finking in with the Ministers to joynefor a thorough Prevsbyteriall Go- vernment? have not all the alterations towards the Gity beene fince that time, and began at that time? Is it not evident what- ever is pretended, as want of time, thefeare of the Tyranny of Miniftcrs , Sec. the caufe why Religion and the Church Go- vernment is no better fettled to be the love of Error and Here- lie which they know the Government would deftroy? And fo I might go thorough the reft, and therefore we may fee to whom, and to whit to attribute all the raifcheifs and evils that are upon us, and further hang over us* Canterbury, Strafford > or whom elfe you will name, out of dellgnes of Popery or ab- folute greatnetfe, or what e\Ce you will imagine, were never greater caufes of ail the evills and mifcheifs in their times, of differences with the Scots, of invading the liberties of the fub- je&, &c. then fome men among us are of our prefent evils, and all to uphold the fa&ion of Sectaries and Opinionitfs and to make way for a Toleration, which to advance and bring about and themfeivesby that to greatnefleof place and efiate, and to *£$ licentioufnefle of living, they are fo, madly. fet upon it, that they care not to run the hazard of ruining three Kingdome?, and re- ducing all into a Chaos of confuficn in Church and State, that iothey man have the creating of all new, and erecl their BabelK But it maybe fome will fay, tis wonder there fhould be to great a. party loving and favouring Se&ari fme and Erxor 3 as to be able to bidder things thus, and to dirt ur be the Kingdome?, and if there (hould be fo, what may oe the true reafon of the exceed- ing great favouring of all kind of Sectaries and Libertines* 1. I anfwer> there areibme men who have. beene and are butmeane in outward eftate, birth, and place, and others though richer in the world, ^yet below in the valiies in companion , and being exceeding ambitious, proud, covetou?, and wichall fubtHe, ap- prehending alfo by reafon of thefe deep diftra&ions. and trc^- * 79 & % and further Difcevtry of the bks in the State, an opportunity of becoming great and rai- ting themfelves by being the heads of a great party, and get- gp tinganintereftand great power in many people, and knowing the corruption of mens hearts3 how pleafing liberty and to have a mans Twinge is, and observing which way the pulfe of the p:c- lent times beat, thereupon have fet themfelves to ftand for>com> tenance all kind of Errors and all kind of men whatever they be that doe walke in irregular wayes : Thefe men being Poli- ticians know that the appearing for any one Seel: two or three, £-** and retraining the reft will not doe their work, make them the heads of iiich a confiderable party as be able to deale with the opposition they may likely meet with in their ambitious defignes, but if they would doe good upon it, they muft let loofe the rains to all Errors whatfoever, Errors againft the Scriptures, againft denying a God, the Trinity, Sec, they muft preferre all forts of men of thole principles one as well as another, conftantly ftand by, and appeare for ail that are queftioned in that way let their opinions be what they will, their carriages never fo infblent in the Spreading of them , and their perfons never 10 unworthy and contempr*Me, on the contrary oppofing, undermining and breaking *,i thole who are active againft their party, and by thus doing, proclaiming as it were open liberty to all men ac- cording to their feverall wayes and lulls, Papifts, Atheifts, Liber- tines, &c.they are in a faire way in fbme convenient time ("keeping off any thing too from being fettled) to have (b many freinds as to be able to help them into the faddle, efpecially at a time when others are juftled out. Jeroboam to keep the people to him; and to ftrengthen the Kingdome, fearing leaft they mould returne from him to Reboboam^took counfell and made two golden Calves, and faid to the people tit too much for you to go up to Jerufakm, and inftead of the fbnnes of Levi made Preifts of the people, for the Calves which he had made , and whofoever would might become one of the Preifts : So there are too many in our dayes that they may get the people to them , and ftrengthen their power have made'golden Calves, (et up the Do&rine of Toleration of all Religions, a wor- shipping of Calves, and give liberty to whofoever will the low- eft Errours and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 178 eft of the people co be Preifts, Coblers, Shoe-makers, Tinkers, Taylors, co preach, ad minifter Sacrament?, 8cc. and that beeaufe tis too much for the people, as Jeroboam (aid , too much flavery, fubjettion to depend upon Minifters, too match for the people to payTyths and part with fo much of their meanes, they (hull enjoy all freely, and thus by prophecying CAfe Doctrine, and allow- ing whoever will to prophelie they may come to beare rule by that means, as Jmmie fpeaks. 2, Though there feenie not Sectaries , viz, formal! Sectaries, fo many as to be able to car- ry things thus to the difturbance of the Kingdom?, yet if we confider whom they make me of,, and (hike in with, and by their policies and activities, pretences have drawne in to their party; no wonder Sectarifme hath (uch a power and influence upon af- fairs, for with the Sectaries are joyned the loofeft and wicked- eft men, whom they tell they will let enjoy their lufts, not force them to go to Church* or any Government, the men who have ^^ got good offices and places of proht,who before they had fuch were 10. Coral!, Hence then from all this Difcovery of the Siftaries laiddownwin this Book, their Error?, ftrange waves, infblent proceedings, many middle men well- meaning people drawne in by them, meeriy coioned by their faire pretences and fpeci- ous fhowes, mould upon this making them (o naked , and pul- ling the Sheeps bkins over the Wolves yeeres, come out from them, 'and iiutead of fiding any longer with thera , turne to theOrtho ox godly party, to help the Lord again ft them 5 as al- (b (uch Presbyterians who know the Sectaries well, mould from ail this be ftirr'd up to (hake off their dulnefle, lazineffe, and become active, vigiianc, diligent, narurally caring for the ftateof things, contending and ft-iving earneftly for the truth of God againit the Sectaries of theie times; and now in the con- clusion of this Third Part I will hint a few things both to thofe who have beene deceived by the Sectaries, and to the Presbyte- rians who well know them. To the firft fort, confider, have you not beene too long cheated and carried along with faire pretences almoft to the utter ruine of Religion and the King- dome ? have you not, and doe you not fee in many af- faires one thing pretended and another intended ? doe you not fee evidently that their godlineffe is game and great QCf* places , that their zeale for preaching and fpreading tFe Go- fpell , is to have all Errors and Herefies of a fuddaine fpread over the Kingdome, and fo in other things, and will you ft ill fufferyour (elves to be deceived by them? there arefbme who were courted and complemented with , and doe confefle they tvere deceived by them, and have left them , doe you (b like- wife , and deliver your felves and the Kingdome thereby out of this Babell. Secondly, confider you had as good leave them at firft as at laft, for either you muft refolve to go thorough with them in all their defignes, and to the higheft, which I fuppofe mid ling well meaning men intend not, but abhor to think of, or elie if not, then when they have by your help effected and brought about their ends, they will caft you off, and you (hall be fervedwith the fame fa uce as the eealous Presbyterians, thus the Prelats terved divers whom they made ufe of, and would not go on with them in every thing, and fo will the Sectaries ferve Err ours and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 281 ferve many well-meaning men who knownotthe depths of Sa- tan, therefore' tis better for you to leave them, then that they being made ftrong by yourmeanes fhould in the end ruineand deftroyyou; and lee (uch moderate well-meaning men know, that if they will ftill adhere to that party after all thefe disco- veries of them, God will look upon them as partakers of all their finnes,will deftroy them with the Sectaries, and they are like to perifh in the gain-faying of Core$ and therefore I befpeak them in the words of MofeSyNnmb. 16,26. Depart I pray you from the Tents of tbefe wicked men , touch nothing if theirs , Ieafi yet he confttmed in all their finnes ; feare , fufpeel: every mo- tion that comes from that party, though it feeme never lb good, though propounded by others not of their way, and jf it be not a thing exceeding cleare and certaineto thee, take heed of doling in with ir , rather fufpend and advife upon it :for thefe Sectaries often aft by other men, get good men who fee not their depths to p omote their caufe , hiding alwayes the hook of their defignes under the bait of priviledge , li- berty, (afety, godhnefle, all which are not regarded by them, but the doing of their work,the increafe of Se&arifme and Error, For the other fort the Presbyterians, confider, what a (Lame 'tis that a handfull of men in comparifon mould by their activity, dili- gence , minding their work, bring things to that paffe they are, in our Armies , CouncelF,City, Country, and the Presbyterians of both Kingdomes ten times as many fit (hi! (as it were^ and fufTer them? Oh if fc few have done Co much, and that in a cg-j bad caufe, what might not we doe in a good cauie, if courageous, zealous, and intent upon it? certainly we might in a fhort time break the hearts and the neck of that faction 5 and in fpeciall, if the City of London and the Government of it would appeare as they might, and when they have begun, follow and profecute it in beginning to put the Lawes in execution againft thofe who/ come not to Church, in punifhing thofe Se&aries who live under their jurifaiftion and government for abufingthem in print, in taking care that no Settarie have any office or place of govern- ment in the City, in petitioning the Parliament againe and againe, they might by the bleflmg of God quickly remedy all : If I fhould Oo but «13 282 A Nm and ftirthr Difitvtry of the but mind the City of the folemne Covenant they have taken to endeavour in their places the extirpation of Herene and Sihifme , of what the Kingdome^ll good and honeft men expeft from them in this kind 3 of- all the affronts and injuries they have fullered from that party, and by meanes of that party, and of all they (hall £r" forely faffer from that party if they prevaile, be trampled upon and made i1avec5 ufcd as the poore Citizens of Afttnfter were by the AnabaptirtS'thefeand many fuch other would make them take hear^arrfc and be doings but I mall conclude all with turning my felfe coChtiftj and that in the words of Vedelitts in alike cafe a- *Vt&t\*Arcan. gaiait the Arminians of Holland, *Arife 0 Lord Jefa, have mercy ^m*n'Par '•** upon sbefe Kingdom* s, vindicate thy orvne glory. To thee who with the Father and the holy Spirit art that one and only true God, be honor^ glory and praife for ever, Amen* Poftfcrip. GOod Reader 3 X conceive before this time thou haftexpe&ed ; my larger and fuller Reply to CrettH/z/^promifed in rhe Se- cond Part of Gxngrtna ; as alto fome Anfvyers from me to feverall Pamphlets put out againft fome Parts and peeces of my Gangr^nae/^ as to Maft-r Burrowes Vindication^ Gangrma flayes Kexs LmceflerS" Lance , Gangranarcbrejium , ADifcovery of a Btame in Mafor Ed- wards his eye, A Prediclim of Afa Jlcr Edwards convtrfion , A Parable vr Conjftkation ofPbyfitians upon Mafler Edwards Some paflages ofSattmarJb againft me , printed in a Pamphlet againft Matter Ga» takfr,MattzT Ley and fome others: Now of all thefeor mod of thefe,I (hall give (b good an account and reafon at ihis time, as I queftionnot will very well fatisfie the Reader: For my fuller Re- ply unto Cretenfis ( fome part whereof was printed before the Se- cond Part of Gangrana came forth ) I proceeded no further upon diefeReafons : Many judicious and learned friends told me I had given Errors and Proceedings of tk Sectaries. 2$j given fuch a fatisfa&ory Anlwer already to Cretevfa., that they thought the Second needlefie, and defired me rather to fex forth forae other Tra&ates 5 as al(b upon the coming out of my Second Part of Gangrana I was affured from (bme who at the preile and from the preffe had (een divers (beets and read fome pare 3 that an Anfwer oiCretenfis to my Antapologie was printing , arid would come abroad ere long 5 whereupon I thought beft todeale with Mafter Goodwin once for all, to take that in, make it all one work, and not to trouble my (elf any more with him till the man mould come to write matter and Reafbn, and not only words and meer flourishes. Now before his Anapologefistes Antapclogiat came fortbj was refolved upon writing this Third Part, and had entred upon it, and Co till I had finimed that, and another t hat is to follow upon ityviz.ATreatiJe againfi Toleration , I purpoled to let Cre- tenfii alone $ only I have among other great Sectaries fpoken (bme- thing of him in this Book , and that uponoccafion of bis 38. g^e* ties upon the Ordinance againft Herefles, and other things that have come to my knowledge concerning him. As for his pretended Reply to ray Antapologte befides the cenmre given ofitin page 120- of this Book, I affirme^is an Anfwer unworthy a Scholar or an in- genuous man, and fuch a one as I am confident never any man who had the name of a Divine., and in Controversies of Divinity ever gave the like , inftead of anfwering Arguments,r\eafbns, matters of faft, to fill up many meets with rinding and making faults in words and phra(es,piaying the part of a Grammaticaftor, a Pasdan- tical u(her5and a mb-corre&or of the preffe,rather then of a learned Aniwerer: for fuppofe all thofe Grammatical literal exceptions ra* ked together were faults indeed, and let pafled by me(all he faith in that kind true) which I deny, and (hall prove the contrary florae of them being the faults of the Printer,and by me put in among Er- rata> others of them good Grammar, yea Elegancies and Prover« biall fayingsjyet what's all that to my AatapoJogiet though there be many Grammatical andlitterall faults,impropej phrafes,har(h and bard expreffions , how4 do thefe Anfwer Reafons,difprove matters offaft, vindicate and fet Tight the A pobgeticalN art ation , which tnuft be done to fatisfie any judicious and impartiall Reader > I ap- peale to any man who hath common (en(e or reaftm, whether Oo 2 matters 284 A New and further Difcovery of the imatters of faft charged ,be proved falfe , or reafbns made weak, or they beanfwered, by faying there was a verbeleft out3the nomina- tive cafe and verbe were not well pat together, the antecedent and^ the relative not rightly placed , fuch a phrafe was harm or impro- per, and whether inch a kind cf Anfwer be not ridiculous to Scho- lars and.Iearqedmen 1 It hath been the ccurfe of many men wha have had a bad ciufe, and knew not how to maintain it with Argu- ments, to (light the men who have wounded their caufe, as no fcho- lar% and :o brand their books as wanting learning • thus fome Pa- plfts have done in Anfwerto Froteftams, Prelates to Non-confor- miirs,anc! Arminians to the Orthodox^ but Matter Goodwin is gone a note beyond all, further then ever any Author did, to fpend his rime and abufe the readtr with giving him Grammatical! faults 5. what Book is there writ by any manfefpeciaiiy one who hath much* oiher work Jof forty (heets^tbatif a Reader will fetbimfelf tofind^ faul s and to wyer-draw every word and phrafe, may not find luch> faults enough between the Author whole mind is intent upon the matter and Fcopeof his work,and the Printer at the prefle? I could' give many inftances of greater Errata in this kind, in Books of the moft learned men 5 then wyCrttenfis hath obferved in mine, and thatboihinLatineandEnglifh , but I (hall inftance only in two, Voetiua his Book intituled VefyeratacattJaPapatus , and Rivets Ca- tboUcus Orthodoxy* ; nay , I will undertake Maftef Goodwins An- fwer to the Antapologk ( though it conftits of fewer meets hath the largeit Errata q{ any fuch Eoglifti book 1 have teen this laft five jears, the defign of the book being alfo to difparage me by obferv- ang falfe EngliftijimproperPhrafes^&Co and therefore cannot be but in reafon expected he would be more fpecially carefull andexaft in that kind then in other of his Books ) to find and prove more faults in allthofe kinds,yeagroiTer then any arein mine»and indeed the man trips in all tongues he makes u(e of in his Book,both Greek Latine and Englifh, as I ihall hereafter (how,nay the man Humbles in Limine, the fir $ word of his Title page and Book being falfe Greek , ufing a word viz. Anapologepates, there being none fuch in the Greek tongue ; and if he fay he meant it not one word, bus two, tk having relation to Antapobgias^ I Reply, tis ftrange that in she Title page he who is fuch a fevere Critick upon other mens words Err ours and Proceedings of the Se&anes. 285 words (houli have no greater care of his own then to lettbem fo pafTe> as to lee two words be pat in one : but sly granting Matter Gcodwin this Sa!vo}yez tis falfe Greek, for itfhould be W&hh an £/*, not with an Epflon as he makes k. Andlfuppofe were there no other proofs of the ftrength and weight of my AmaploQ*> Matter Goodwins Reply ro it would be afufficient and demon ft rati ve teftimony, that he after two yeeres and upwards for want of fubftantiallobje&ionsandmateriall ex- ceptions againft it, mould fall upon words and phrafs, Gramma- ticall miftakts, and not Theological!, mow himfelf fuch aTiiftcr andScriblerashehathdone, for which learned work (I affure him) he will never be reckoned among the Schoolmen; however *^ he may and huh beene among the Schoolboyes. That man who hath a Lordfliipa Manor propounded to him3& after a ful view of, and enquiry into it, can rind no fault with the Tenure, Title, dwel* ing houfe, water, weeding, fouaticn of if, &c. but cavils that fbmeftrawes are upon the ground, fome flicks are broken in a- hedge , a pane or two of glade is cracked, the Evidences for the Land are not fo fairly written , nor in 10 good language as they might poiTibly have bin^tisagood lign & clear Argument tis an ex- cellent Manor, and Lordmip that nothing elfe is objeclred againft ir. So when a Book hath pafled the teft and triali of a cruel I adverfary who dares fay any thing fo it will ferve his t-urne, and yet can find nothing to except againft it, but what is common to all mens Books, fbme miftakes in words andphrafis. Errata of ih^ Prcfle, ( there being no Book without fuch) fuch a man infteadof w«ak- ning the Authority of chat Book , hath among all wile men with a high hand confirmed it and accquitted it from all the afperfions and imputations of weaknefle, falfeneffi 5 all men concluding had there been any great. matters of exceptions , they would have been produced, and not the time fpent in picking of ftrawe3, and catch- ing of flyes, catching at words and phrafes , and letting the matter alone. And for conclufion of thisj would have this Trifler and ; great Rabbi of the Englifh tongue know,that though in his conceit I.cannot put the Nominative cafe and Verbe together , &c. yet by the help ofGod,I can put fuch fenfe and reafon together, fuch mat- ters. offaS: and truth together?that in che controverfies of the times oft 286 A New and further Difcovery of the of the Chut ch, Government, Toleration mixt Communion, Lay- mens preaching^&c.I can put Cretenfs and the Apologip together, anfwer them; and offer to deal with any of them,or all of them up- on any of the points controverted , and I can put forth an Anfwer to their new Modell and (hake their Babel ; and if God (pare me life and heaUi but a few yeares , they (hall find by Oods gracious help, that by my pen and preaching ( not with (words and armed men as they propagate their caufe) I fhall make Independence, A- nabaptii'me., all kind of Se&arifme and a Toleration as vild and cheap as ever Lxther made the Popes Supremacy , Indulgences and Pardons, Purgatory t and the Doctrine of merit 5 and however Ma- fter Goodwin pus a bold face upon it, writing thus to call a (corn, jeare,andablur upon my writings, which he cannot tell how to Anfwer j yet I know and can prove ir,he and his party fear my wri- tings, and are more troubled at them then at any other mans who hath yet appeared. As for Mr Burroughs Vindication $rztev\\\y after it came forth I drew up an Anfwer to it of about fome ten meets, an Anfwer (b fuli,ihat hardly a line efcaped without fome Anima&- verfon • and had I thought his time had been (b (hort, it had come forth in his life, that he might have confidered what he had done in that Anfwer ( which I had in a plaine home way charged on his Conference ) and how unlike the fpiric that breathed in that Book gjL., was to what Matter Burroughs had written of a gracious jpirit 9 of Selfe-denhll, of Love and brotherly agreement ( being a book made up of great pa (lion, horrible pride, fcornfulnefle, equivocations, many un- truths as I have fully (hewedj but being more carefull and zeal- ous of Gods name and truth, then mine own , and feeing that fo deeply fuffer in the Errors, Herefies,Blafphemies,In(blent pra&ifes of the Sectaries, I laid my Anfwer by, from fully perfecting it till I had put forth a Third Part oiGangrma, and a Treatise againft To- leration, then refolving to re-aflume my Anfwer to Matter *Bur* roughs 5Mafter Goodn>in,znd fome others of them: but it hath pleafed God (before my Third Part of Gangrana could be printed) to take Matter Burroughs out of this lifef for which I am heartily iorry, and the more,befides that 1 mould have bin glad he might have read my book,becaufe I do conceive the putting it forth after his death may be liable to more raiPconftruftions then it could have been in his life Errors and Proceedings of the Setter? cs. 287 life time)fo that now whether I fhould publilliitl or no, or rather let it dye with Mafter "Burroughs, I am in fufpenfe, and fliall advife upon it what may be beft in that cafe ; however I am fully fatisfied tis lawfull for a man in feverall cafes to put out Anfwers to Books though the Authors of them be dead ; and in regard Mafter Bur- roughs dealt fo unworthily with me , I might be well excufed if I fhould put.it forth ; but whether I do or no, 1 defire the Reader to take notice of my Anfwer to two or three particulars, 1 for his ex* ailing himfelf about that objecled,he gave under his hand concer- ning the ftory of Nichols , by faying the ftory of Nichols page 79. is all falfe (all of it being proved true ,. and a miftake only in a Cir- cumftance) that he meant only that part of it in that page , not medling with that in another page : I Anfwer, This is a new equi- vocation brought to falve the other ; for as the firft was an equivo- cation upon the word fitch a meeting , fo this is upon the page 75?* and if he intended not to deceive the Reader by poHeffinghim a- gainft me3 why did he not fay,that part of theftory of one Nichols page 79. was falfe , but that ftory Mafter Edwards hath.which im- plies the whole3and tis apparent Mr ,and all Mr Burroughs friends took it fo , vm^Qt the whole ; and if Mafter Burroughs had been alive, I had provided an Appeale to his Confcience to have put him to anfwer me as in the prefence of God, whether in writing that paper fent to Cretenps, he did not think men would not,orcouldnotfinditout3 but would take it as conceiving all that ftory of Nichols faife ; and if Mafter Burroughs had meant fairly, why did he not acknowledge what was true in the ftory, as the rtrft part now confefled true, and for the Second Part of ir,why did he not confeffe at a meeting Mafter Gre. nhill told him fuch and fuch things , and that he anfwered Mr Greenhill fo and fo, and have denied it was a fet meeting upon that occafion ? If Mr i?#r- roughs had done thus, he had dealt fairly, but this would not have made good Mr burroughs his end to breed a beleif in the Reader, of the falfeneffe of matters related in my book^ I had then bin ren- dred to the Reader only miftaken in a circumftance of a ftory which would have been accounted no great matter^ and the truth , of the ftory for the fubftance and the feverall particulars in it would haveweighed down all nmprifion in the minds oi men again!! 2^8 A New and further Difcevery of the againft me by reafonof that circumftance. 2. For that Mafter "Burroughs charges me with page 2,and 7, that when I have heard vild reprcachfull things againft fitch as I darted to be godly y and they living neer me in the (fity have fie nt to me to offer to fat is fie me if I would confer with them , and cleerly convince me ofthefalfeneffe of finch reprts, how the men n'ere traduced andl abufied in fitch reports , yet that I fhould refufe to conferred it h them and fall a laying on, &c. I do utterly deny that ever there was any fuch thing,or any e« ver fent to me , and cannot imagine any reafon in the world Mi- Rev Burroughs tt\ou\d writfo , and whoever told him any fuch thing,abufed him,and I could by many reafons prove the contrary, if I were giving a formall Anfwei to Mafter Burroughs Book. Is it likely that I who have gone on purpofe to fo many, and do day- ly upon ail occafions , that have write fo many Letters even to re- mote places to know the certainty of things reported , that im- ploy others to inquire out the truth where I cannot fo well do it my felf, that intreat perfons who relate things to me, to fend the eare witnelles and proofs to me,that reject many reports of things which may be true, and are reported with much confidence be- caufe I canot fee a full proof of them,that I lhould decline to fpeak with thofe who fend to me to fatisfie me in the truthof things, and whom I own to be godly ? No, this is utterly falfe, a very legend, againft my genius and conftant courfe of proceeding in this work, I taking much content, in fearching all wayes to be fatisfied in the truth of things related me,or in their falfeneffe,that fo I may not by printing any thing miftaken, give an occafion to the que- ftioning of the truth of thofe things that are undoubtedly true^and for further fat isfa&tou to the Reader there was no fuch thing,why could not the parties themfelves come to fpeak with me, but muft fend others, I am eaiily enough to be fpoken with , refuting none (as all know who come to me) beftdes, how did Mafter Burroughs know any fuch had been with me to make me fuch offers, and that I refufed; and what if fome reported to him that which was faife, might not he be eafier abufed by a report (for he fpeaks not this of his own knowledge, he never came to me , nor was the man ever defired to confer with me about any of thefe particulars ) then I xan be miftaken in this bufinefle, to whom thefe offers of con- ferences Emm and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 289 fcroices and fatisfa&ions mould have been made. 3. For that Mailer Burroughs page 1 8. taxes me with concerning what I relat- ed about his going out of the Kingdom in my Antapologie y that hxd I been willing to have conferred with him about it as be dejired be- fore 1 printed be 'jbould have f> fat!) fitUjiedtneJ ihn I could never have 5 fiumbledat thl < 5 I Anfwer , I never was unwilling to confer with Maftet Burroughs about this or any other thing that he (hould have defired, and I can fay it truely 5 if be had fent the leaft boy at any time to me to have defired a conference with me , and appointed: me where to meet him I mould have waited on him : but (or what is here written, I neither know nor remember any fuch thing that Mafter Burroughs eithei by writing,or word of mouth ever defired to have fpoken with me about his going out of the Kingdom 5 and certainly at that time when I was writing my Antapologie there was no fuqh great diftance between Mafter Burroughs and me , but that he might either have come to me , or (poke to me of it when he met me occa(ionally , or I (hould have come to him : none of which ever were moved to me, and I cannot but wonder at Mafter 'Burroughs writing of this and divers other paflages. 2 As for that bee faid bee mould have fatisfied me upon conference , thac he went out of the Kingdom not upon the ground I alledge, but upon another, a call from ihe'Church ofRoterdam, which he relates page 19, 20, 2 r, 2 2. I muft confefle I am unfatisfied in it now, and ib I beleive are all rationall men , and let the Reader but aske Ma- fter Adarjhzll and Mafter Calamie who knew the bufineffe well and Mafter Burroughs at that time,whether they do not beleive he went over to Rot er dim upon a complaint made of fome words fpoken a- bout the Scottifb Warre:and if I fhould have given the Reader all that I have drawn up by way of Anfwer to this , it would abun- dantly clear me , and lay open Mafter 1$ wrought weaknefle very much, but I (hall only hint this , Suppofe the King had in this War prevailed over the Parliament, and taken the City 5 and juft upom that time Mafter Potert and Mafter Welt had gotten away in all hafte to New England • and fuppofe after this, fome man writing of Mafter Welt and Mafter Pnert departurefrom Enghnd mould have exprefled this as the ground, the danger they were in upon the Kings taking London $ now if Mafter Pctert and Mafter Weh mould Pp by v 9 2 A New and farther Dtfcovery of the thors fhall receive a full anfwer from fome of the Minifters of thofe parts, who having been upon the place know all parties Far?, f&r pmofe of which I have been written unto as followes 5 c I «have lighted upon a Libeil of Matter Pinnels and LMaddochy * which however it caft fcqrne enough on you , M after Gower, and 'Mailer Ford, I know you will fcorn, and I fhall take care in what ■'is mat eriall to fee ic Anfwered in a Book by ic (elfe, which if you 1 will let me know when the Third Part of Cangrcena is likely to * be ready, I would put out before it, that you may the better * make ufe of ic, And in another Letter upon my Anfwer to thig^ that I thought my Third Part would have come out much fooner then now it doth y I am thus written to *T ^Iam fbfry in reference to my felfe that your Third Part ' comes out (b t'uddenly, Ihad thought an anfeer to Pools re- flation (hould have preceded ir. But however if you have oo * ca(ion to Ipeak any thing in reference to it,you may bid the Rea- «der ex pe& an Anfwer from thefe parts fhortly. And you may €your felfe take notice bow our oppofites Pinnel and UWaddocfy * doe equi vocate>and deny not the things charged,as in the point of * Pinnels ftrange Doctrine and the Revelation woman. As for tFaltvins Tredi&ion of M after Edwards Conversion and the ConfttU tation upon Afaflrr Edrvar dr, both from the fame hand (a si judge) I would have Mafter^^/wyw and bis companions know, that JVfc. 'Edwards goes upon furer grounds in what he does againfi the Sectaries then to be fbfoone removed: he hath not been Co long in the Schook of Gbrift , had experience fo many yeers of the wayea of God in trialls of many temptarions, divers afflictions*, conflict with all forts of wicked men and Errors both in the Prelates timtsand now, (earchings and fhiftings out the truths of God in the Controverfies both of the former and prefent times y as to be talc en off from the Doctrines of truth and according to godlinefle, and to be turned unto fables by the fool ifh weake Pamphlets of the times. If Mr. Walmn and his fellowes have any hopes in thii hgbdthty are much deceived \ For as Luther (ome- rimes writ in an Epiftle of his to Spahtinm concerning his writing againft the Papifts, that he mould premmeany thing of h\mpr*- m P^linodiam & fagtmfo may the Sectaries imagine any thing of me Err ours and Proceedings of be Sectaries. 293 me rather thai a Recantatiyn.and repeating of writing* I ? wherein I have discovered the Errors>H-reu^5,3nd Biatpbem the times'. As for Mr. Salmarpes Anfwer infiw vp.rds to the Second Pare of Gangrwa, a pare of his jhidowe* fljtng *WJrl (hali rec- kon with him for every line in itintoat Aniwer to odbtei pam- phlets of his; only I defire the Reader for the prefent to ^b- (ervethefe things: Firft, that Mailer Gstaker in his Rep y to -h;m, hath proved him to be aftadow whhout Jubilance, haih taken vll the fhadowesand vaile hehadcaft en many truths of the Goipel, aod mowed this new light with his davenings of light to be no- thing elfe but a (hadow of death and darkneffe, and hath caufed this great light to go out inafmoke and fnufTe.. Secondly, that he calls oneleafe and lefle then a halfe, an Anfwer to my Second Part oiQingtdtnA cunfiiting alnioft of thirty (heets, and to another Book cali'd An after Reckoning of about ten fheets. Thirdly , in that little he faith ( though he call it an Anfwer) he doth net fo much as offer to difprove any one particular in the Book, hee faith not one word to difprove or deny the Woman Preacher: which in my Second Part I had made good againft his bold deni* all of it in a former Pamphlet, but declaimes in generall againft me and.my Book, railing fearfully, and curfing me. Fourthly, the great hypocrifie and diiTimulation of Matter Sdtmarfoy preten- ding in ail bs writings, love, peace, fweetnefle among Chrifti- ans, and in this Pamphlet where his Anfwer to the Second Part of Gtftfgrk in a mans life time, applying thofe words of Chri(t to the Devil!, unto me, the Lord rebuke thee, even the Lord, charging me with (inning a- ganftth- holy Ghoft, with being in the gall of bkteraefle, and bond of iniquity, telling me of guawings, flafhings, of having a burnt and withered fpirit,threarning they will pray me either.in- to repentance, or fhame, or judgement ere they have done with sne^and putting the other Minifter and me together, he ftiles us and faith, all the powers of b§U fet m on work 9 with many loch like pafliges; So that I may juftly fay ro Mailer Saltmarfh as Paul \n Rom,2. 21,22, 23. Thou therefore that teacbefl another^ Teacbeft thou not thy felfe ? Thou that teach. ft a man fbould not if e ale,, do ft thou fteale? Thou that faieft a man fbould not com- mit adder] , do ft thou commit adulttry> &c. Or as Chrift in M&tthew 7, 3, 4, 5. And why heholdeft thou the mou that is in thy brothers eye 9 but confidereft not the beame that it in thine owm eye ? or how can ft thou fay to thy brother, let me pull out the mote out of thine eye, and befold a beame in thine owne eye f Tbm hy~ pocrite 3 ftrft cafl out the beame out of thine owne eje , and then fmlt thou fee clearly to caft out the mete out of thy hot hers eye* Ma- ster Saltmarfh charges me with bitternefie , uncharitablenefle, and is ten times worfe himlelfe, and I challenge Mafter Saltmarfh and all his party in all the Books chat I have written put toge- ther, to produce (if they can) Co many unchriftian paffiges as are vented by him againft me in one leafe : Where and in what part of my books have I charged Mafter Saltmarfh with finning a- gainft the holy Ghoft, hating the light once known , blafpheming the work of the Spirit ? and (b I might inftance in the reft,though I beleeve I could give better grounds why Mafter Saltmarfh ihould a great deale more probably bee guilty in that kind, then he can upon any pretence of me ^though I profefle I do not charge him with that finnej but the charging godly Presby- terians for writing againft Errors and Herefies, with committing the finne againft the holy Ghoft, and defpighting the Spirit, and finning wilfully is the great charity and brotherly love of Se- ctaries, divers of them having done thus, Mafter Price charging M Be/Umie, Mafter Goodwin Mafter Prinne, and M. Saltmarfh me : But I would have Mafter Saltmarjb*know, tis not his bugbarof charging me with the fin againft the holy Ghoft, and threatning me with flafhings, lightnings, and praying againft mc for conten- ding earneftly for the Faith once delivered unco the Saints againft certaine men crept in, turning the Grace of God into lafcivioufc nefle, can fcare me co make me go out of my way, and I find this branding Errors and Proceedings of the Sectaries. 2P5 branding with the finne againit the holy Ghoft of Orthodox men by Sectaries to be no new thing , bat very old , ufed by the Do- natifts .In S^int Attains time, who as Augxftim fhowes in bis wri- ting?, accufed tie Orthodox of being guil.y of the fose againfl \r% the holfGhoft. Fifrhl-y , for his twe-fter-ies he relates of difcourfe with me upon twro Overall times fpeaking together, they are de- ceitfully and falfely related, the greatest part concealed, and what is related not juftly fit downe : I writ them both downe in my Diary, especially the laft immediatly after I lefc Matter S4tmarjht and focan give a jiift and good account ol" them, but they are too long to be inferteAin a iJ ojifcrifrmd oi che hrft/ha; b.ing at Ma- rk* Vicars his houfe and- in his hearing,he bach given the Reader already a good part of it in hrs Sckifmiiick^fified, \kt\e(l think J to. WL,Sahmarf};es credit. And now good Reader the -new.- Tra&a; e thou (hah exp-ft frorrrmcfhall be aTraftit^ againft a Toleration*, which I hope bp the end of the next moneth., or the: beginning of February? may bkmthy hands, and nothing by Gods help, (hail di- vert me, or retard that : I am refoIvecV if twenty Parnph'etg.fhould be writteiQ aigainft this Third Part, tea let them all lie till I ha m put;fcttth a" Tread £ againft Toleration anci preiend '.d ^bejEtys of Cpafcieocje. And to&&Mtbtikf Brethren, pray tor me. thnr. God would be in a fpeeiall manner with- me m the fe.t unz fjtih. of that Tractate at this rime, and that the word cf the Lord may run and be glorified, and'ihu Lrflay be delivered from unreafb- nableand wicked men , and that my fervice which I have for this Kingdome3rmybe accepted of the King. Parliament, and aH tba^ are in authority, of the City ofLWvo, the (Jjli]h&Mn cf she King- domej and of all Saiots. &mm\ ■ F I N I S. CHriftian Reader I fully intended thee of this Book a more perfecl amendment of faults pafledat Preffethen in former Books, that thereby I might have prevented Momm , and faved Cretenfis- a labour of making fuch another Anfwer to this Third Part, as he did to the Antapologiejowt many prefllng occafions for the publick not allowing me fo many dayes , as the reading over and exact examining every line for finding out the Errors of the PrefTe, would have coft me J do therefore venture upon thy inge- nuity in pardoning fuch faults thou maift meet with,rather then to behindredbyfuch punctilios from doing greater things for thy good. In cafting my eye here and there upon fome pages theft: prefented themfelves fuddenly to my veiw. Errata. PReface, page 4. line 2 for his judgement, read Gods judgements, p. 21. L 18. for this >•. this the p. 131./. 14- for fome parts of r. South, p. 148./, i<5. for defence >•. defiance, p.i 60. /. 2f- for Vindication r. Juftification, p. 16c . /. 4. blot out a Jine from aftet the word England to firft,/>. 1 27. for Ifland r. wood- land, /. 29 for two /.three,/?. 253. for Wellington r. Watlington,/;. zj?. /. 27, for man r. may, f.278/. 15 for denying r.belccving there is^.279 /;zi for they bcr. they may be,p. 2,79 iaft line for c^at r« as,in third fheet/>. lafl l.iC, for over r. above, p. Z90 U 2 a/or 38 r. 1638.