j;:::^- ^ PRINCETON, N. J. Presented by Mr. Samuel Agnew of Philadelphia, Pa. Agnnv Coll. on Baptism, No. SDSY 'i^ilbi.. '^'' PETER EDWARDS'S CANDID REASONS EXAMINED, AND ANSWERED. BY DAVID *iONES, A. M. Pastor of the Baptist Church, at the Great Valley, Chester County. lor the leaders of this people cause them to err. Is A l am. TuU well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep voxvc own tradition. Mahk, PHILADELPHIA; ^'rinted for the Author by Dennis Ileartt I81I, jAf^gg^ <^v^^0 .. ".t PREFACE. All clu'istians profess to i*eceive the holy scriptures as a dii'ectorj in faith and prac- tice, and to believe that the mind of God is plainly revealed; or otherwise, there is no revelation at aU; for if our duty to God, and obedience to Christ, is not plainly expressed, but left to analogy and inference, then all is left to the ingenuity or imagination of man, which varies according to education and inte- rest, or erroneous principles embraced. To me the subjects and modes of baptism, are as plain as language or example can make them; yet for more than one hundi^ed years volumes have been written on this subject; and yet the dispute continues. I never either wished or expected to appear in public on this subject; but some years ago a pamphlet was reprinted in America written by Peter Edwards in England, and spread with un- common zeal, as if it was unanswerable. I was frequently asked, if I had read it. My answer was no: I neither wished to read it nor any other on the subject; for I had the scrip- IV tui*es, which pointed out our duty so plainly, that I had not one doubt on the subject. At last a friend put it into my hand; and I read it over several times, and told my friend, I found nothing unanswerable in the pamphlet. The author seemed very abusive and spite- ful; but he had said nothing but the old story dressed up in a new form, in which he had used more sophistry than common. My friend declined answering it, as his duty in his present station would not afford time to be consumed that way. He urged me to undertake an answer, with which I reluc- tantly complied. And after some progress^ I was afflicted with the loss of my wife, which affected me so, that nothing was done on the subject for a long time; and I believe I should have dropped the work, only, in my travels, I often heard Peter Edwards repre- sented as unequalled and unanswerable. I Iiave now concluded my work and offer it to the public for their consideration. My plan is altogether new; and it is my own. If I am wrong, no blame is to be at- tached to my society; for I know not whether I shall meet their universal approbation. I have denied that the Jews, consisting of men, women and children, were ever called a church. 1 have denied that the Greek word EjtJtAvja-ifit, which means the out-called, or such as are called by grace, can possibly be appli- ed to a nation or kingdom. I can iind no ap- plication of the word to that purpose. I find the word used hy heathens for assemblies, called together by a crier, resembling our courts; but it always meant a voluntary as- sembly. No doubt the Hebrews have a word or words for an assembly; but nothing exist- ed among them like a gospel church: the meaning of the word must be fixed in the New Testament. And to the eternal honourof George Campbell of Aberdeen, D. D. he has unanswerably fixed the meaning of the word, in his short Ecclesiastical History. Peter Edwards's great strength lies in two propositions, viz. 1. That infants were once the members of the church. 2. That their membership was never excluded by any law either of God or man, ^c. From what I have said, it will appear that all that can be said about membership, is only hollow talk; for the word membership or member is not found in the Old Testa- ment, nor any thing like it. The male chil- dren were circumcised by the command of God, as a token of the covenant made with Abraham about the land of Canaan, and was a national mark of distinction till the Mes- siah should come; but none thereby were entered into any church; for no such thing did then exist, nor could formally exist. I have carefully searched every passage in Genesis, to learn when and where any such thing was formed; but found no traces VI of it ill scripture. I found it existed only in Judaizers' brains, fabricated to support a su- perstition, wbich can receive no aid from scripture, utility or common sense. I know my theory is as new in religion as .sir Isaac Newton's was in philosophy; and 1 flatter myself that m}^ sentiments will gain ground daily, with all who are in searcli of truth. And should any person be disposed to oppose my system, I am ready on all occa- sions to vindicate it. I have seen proper to change the expressions formerly used on the subject; instead of psedobaptist I use the phrase psedorantist, without any intention to give ofience to my brethren, who differ in opinion from me; nor is there any cause of offence; for the word used by me is the truth and nothing but the truth; the word Rantize, signifying to sprinkle. Several publications have appeared in America and Ena^land a2;ainst Peter Ed- wards; but mine will interfere with none of them; as my plan is altogether new. An answer to my publication must be made on new ground, as the old fort is erased to the ground. I have more Grreek than what was com- mon on the subject. This was sometimes occasioned by our author so frequently using that language, as if other people were ignor- ant on the subject; and in some places it was necessary to expose his abuse of the vu language, designed to bovilder or mislead the unlearned. On the mode of baptism, I have corrected Peter Edwards's abuse of the Greek so plainly and fuHy, that none will be under the temp- tation to follow him any more. The cause of Christ is t^ be maintained by simple honesty, and not by Jesuitical cunning, evasions and sophisms. And wliat can be a greater evasion than never to fix on the meaning of (^aTrnt^u^ but instead of that to say, without proof, it means, to wash, pour, or sprinkle? Perhaps some of my brethern may blame me for some severity of language used. I shall make no other apology than, Let them read Peter Edwards; and they will see it was next to impossible to avoid it altogether; for he so often lost truth and modesty, that a corrective became necessary to him, but I hope to no other man. As truth was my ob- ject, I have used very plain language, as best suited for the most of readers. I am willing to submit this publication to him, who said, '• What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light; and what ye hear in the ear, that speak ye on the house-tops." Matt. x. 27. To his blessing, I commit this pamplilet, and remain an aged servant of the church of Christ. DAVID J0NE8. March 4, 1811, "Vf?^ CANDID REASONS EXAMINED AND ANSWERED. It was never my wish to write on the subject of Baptism, as it always appeared to me very plain in the New Testament; but as Jude exhorts to contend earnestly for the faith once delivered to the saints, I thought it my duty to comply. I conclude that all, we should believe or do, is so plainly contained in the Holy Scriptures that we can understand the whole counsel of God, as far as affects our salvation, without recurrence to the sub- tilties of Aristotle, or the quibbles of logical syl- logisms. As the greater part of christians are unacquainted with the science of logic, we must suppose that the Great Head of the church deli- vered his mind so plainly to his apostles that they could not misunderstand him, especially when we remember, that they^ were infallibly inspired by the Holy Ghost, in writing the New Testament. There- fore we may safely believe, that they obeyed the solemn injunction of their Lord, to teach the dis- ciples to observe all things, whatsoever he had ■■2 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. commanded them. Therefore, when we find any person using vain and perplexing disputations, and handling the word of God deceitfully, we may con- clude that truth is not the object in view; but, first having embraced an error, this method is used to baffle antagonists, and mislead uninformed persons, who are not aware of such sophisms. I have read many pamphlets on the subject of baptism; but I never met with any, who has so abused the scriptures as Peter Edwards, in his pamphlet called Candid Reasons. There is so little candor in it, and so much abuse, that it is scarcely possible to read it without a disagreeable impression on the mind; but as scurrility and abuse have no argument in them, I wish to avoid them as far as possible, and consider the subject in a christian temper. I purpose chiefly to confine myself to scripture language, and arguments deduced from it. I shall be under the necessity to make use of some other writings. I will allow Peter Edwards, or any other person, to use analogy and inference; but, at tlie same time, I must assert that both may be greatly abused, and used to support a bad cause, by giving the appearance of truth, when at the same time it is only a gilded falsehood. In my remarks on Peter Edwards, I do not in- tend to travel page for page; for this would swell my pamphlet to the size of the New Testament, and render it too costly for the household of faith, xvho t, that is out of, and Kothio^ that is to call. The word Eicy.AncKX. means the out called, I know of no word in the English, which comprehends fully the meaning in the original. In the Latin lan- guage, the word Evocatio is nearly the true meaning. This word is a compound of ^ and voco,to cally sothat CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. $ it means that which is called out. This is exactly the meaning of the word E>t>tA>)(r«» in the New Testa- ment. I wish no person to take my say so, for proof; let us therefore consult lexicons and see what they say on the subject; to which I will add the defi- nitions of learned gentlemen; and if their judgments and mine agree, it must be granted as a strong argument in my favour. I have consulted several lexicons; and they all agree on the subject. I have only two present, viz. Schre villus and Parkhurst. Sclirevilius renders the word in the Latin Concio and Ccetus: that is, an assembly, a meeting, a multi- tude, a flock. He says the word is derived from EjcjcosAso, in Latin evoco, which means to call out. Parkhurst says the word E>c)tA}j(n* is derived from EKJCfltAgjv, to call out; he further adds that it means in the New Testament a church of God, that is an assembly or society of men, called out of mankind by the word of God. He says also it means a parti- cular or single congregation of christians. He then refers to many passages in the New Testament, where it is so used. Cruden, in his Concordance on the word Church, says it means " a religious assembly, selected and called out of the world, by the doctrine of the gospel, to worship the true God in Christ according to his word;" and he adds, " all the elect of God, of what nation soever, from the beginning to the end of the c 10 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. world, which make but one body, whereof Christ is the head." Locke, on Toleration, defines a church thus, viz. " A church then I take to be a voluntary society of men, joining themselves together of their own ac- cord, in order to the public worshipping of God, in such a manner, as they judge acceptable to him and effectual to the salvation of their souls. I say it is a free and voluntary society."* Doctor Owens defines a church thus, viz. " The church is a voluntary society." He then illustrates it by saying, " Persons otherwise absolutely free, as unto all the rules, laws and ends of such a society, do of their own wills and free choice coalesce into it. This is the origin of all churches." I have seen a publication under the name of a Christian Magazine, written by Mr. Mason of New York: he pretends to find Hebrew words of the same meaning with the Greek word EKxhyjirioe> in the New Testament. Should any person examine the texts to which he refers, it will apj^ear that the simi- larit}- between the Hebrew words Cahal and gheda and Ex.)cA€j(r/at, but more com- monly l.vvxyw'yy;^ which properly signifies a con- gregation; but certainly the Greek preposition iw and iK are of a contrary meaning in the Greek lan- guage. The Jews never called themselves a church. The word cannot without violence be applied to a nation; for hitherto there has been no nation of saints; and whoever will read the scriptures will find that the Jews, as a body, had no claim to the term. In short calling the Jews a church, consisting of men, women and children, cannot be supported by scripture nor common sense; for a church is a volun- tary society; and if we consider the, use of the word in the New Testament, we cannot mi^s the mean- ing, if we are not under the influence of the wine of the whore of Babylon. The word is used only by one Evangelist, and in that only twice. Matt. xvi. 17, .18. Our Lord said CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 13 to Peter, " On this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." In this place Christ means all that shall be called by grace to the end of the world. Sometimes it means the elect of God, of which Chri&t is the head, from the beginning of the world to the end of it. Eph. i, 22. The next place where it is used is Matt, xviii. 17, where it is said, " tell it to the church." It is very plain tiiat Clirist meant b}^ church, what is cal- led a particular church. Nothing but blindness through tradition could induce any man to apply this passage to the rulers of the church. It is well known that the body of the church judged their brethern till the latter end of the second century; but when pride and ambition began to prevail, the rulers wrenched the power from the body of the people, and arrogantly took it into their own hands. Mo- sheim is candid on this subject, and deserves some credit, seeing he wrote contrary to his own con- duct.* By this passage, it is evident that children were no part of that body, which is called a church; for children, who know not their right hand from their left, have no qualifications to judge of the conduct of their brethren. This church should remain a mo- del for the churches of Christ in all ages, and would have remained so, had not avarice, pride and ambi- tion eclipsed the glory and simplicity of the churches. * Mosheim, vol. i. page 98. 14 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. Such churches as these, are the ground and pillar of the truth, and not a composition of men and babies. The next passage where tlie word is used is in Acts ii. 47. " And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." This was the first church that ever was formed on earth; and if we understood the nature of this, we would understand the meaning of the word EKKAy]j(r translated church, so unansvverably, that to any man who wishes information on the subject, I would recom- mend his lectures as the best that I ever saw. It is true that some superstitious bigots will be very much displeased with him, because he has told the truth, and they are unable to refute him; and I would have transcribed many passages from him, but it would have swelled my pampiilet too much.* In the first manuscript of this pamphlet, I con- sidered the history of the Jews, from the days of Joshua to the birth of Christ, as far as recorded in the holy scriptures; and notwithstanding that this history afforded unanswerable arguments against calling them a church, I found my pamphlet so large that I have been obliged to curtail it very much, or * Eccl. Lee. p. Philad. Ed. " We speak now, indeed, of the Gallatian church, the Greek church, the church of England and of Scot- land, as of societies independent and complete in themselves." Such a phraseology was never adopted in the days of the apostles. They did not s'ay, the church of Asia, or the church of Macedonia, or the church of Achaia; but the churches of God in Asia, ?4C. Tlic plural number is i^i- variably used. CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 47 it could not be so generally circulated. Let the reader attend to the history, and if he is not blinded by education, he will be astonislied that ever such a nation could be called a church. Indeed the term is perfect nonsense, when it is applied to any nation, consisting of men, women and children, or the word l.AK\t](ri» has no meaning; but it means them who are called by grace. I come now to the New Testament; and the first thing which I shall consider, are the a<3dresses of Christ to the Jews, by which it will appear very plain, he did not consider them as the church of God. But before I proceed, I must premise that there is a distinction to be observed, viz. The church is never called the world; nor is the world, ever called the church. The system, that annihilates the world and transforms it into church, cannot be of God; but must be a branch of antichrist. Ac- cording to the psedorantists' system, there was no world among the Jews. 2. The Jews were as good and religious, when John began to preach repentance to them, as they were in preceding ages, if not much better. After the return from the Babylonish captivity, the Levites were to read the law and give the sense to the peo- ple, and cause them to understand the reading. Neh. viii. 8. This is supposed to be 445 years before the birth of Christ. Malachi is supposed to have finished his prophecies about 48 years afterwards; which finished the Old Testament, From that time 48 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. to the birth of Christ, which it is supposed was 397 years, the Jews, for ought we know, lived as well as common, which was never very well. Some time after their return, synagogues were erected, in which the law and the prophets were read every sabbath, which continued to be the practice in the time Clirist was on earth. When Christ began his ministry, the Jews were divided into two classes: one was called Pharisees, the other Sadducees. The Sadducees were Epiririans, believing in no future state of ex- istence, angel or spirit. What kind of religion they had, the reader may guess; but one thing is very evident, it had no reference to eternity, which proves a very important point on this subject, viz. that if the Jews could be called a church, it required no mental or religious qualifications to become a mem- ber, and remain so; and this is perfectly consonant with the pasdorantists' system. Among the Jews cutting off the prepuce of a child made him a com- plete member; and although afterwards, he declared that he neither believed that there was either heaven or hell, he remained still a member. Is this the best church in the world? But the truth is, that circum- cision was only a mark that the person descended of Abraham, and belonged to the Jewish nation. The word INIember is not used in all the Old Testament. This term has been introduced to support infant membership. The other sect among the Jews, were called Pha- risees, who at first, it is probable, were the most rcr CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 4^ iigious people among the Jews; but when Christ came, they were a superstitious set of hypocrites, who had made void the commands of God by their traditions, and were the most spiteful enemies which Christ had, and finally by wicked hands cru- cified him.- We will consider, first, how he addressed the scribes and pharisees, who were the leaders of the Jews. Now if Christ addi'essed them in language quite contrary to the language used when addres- sing his church, then it must follow that he did not consider them the church of God. He charged them with making the command of God of none efiect by then' traditions of men. Mark vii. 8, 9. He calls them hypocrites eight times in one chapter. Matt, xxiii. He calls them in the same chapter five times blind guides. He calls them serpents, a generation of vi- pers, v/ith the severe interrogative *' How can ye escape the damnation of hell?" Matt, xxiii. 33. He pronounces a wo against them eight times in the same chapter. Is this the language which he uses when he addresses his church? The very reverse, as will appear. He also calls them an evil and an adulter- ous generation. Matt. ix. 39. He told them plainly, they were of the devil their father. John viii. 44, He considered them under the character of the world, the contrast of his church. In addressing his disci- ples, he says, " If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If 3"e were of the world, the world would lovo his own; but becnuse 50 CANDID REASOlSiS EXAMINED. ye are not of the world; but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you." John XV. 18, 19. Can any thing be plainer than that Christ considered the Jews in the common state of man, without any relation to him? Only observe the manner in which he addresses the members of his church at ail times: He says they were not blind as the world is. " Blessed are your eyes, for they see; and your ears, for they hear." Matt. xiii. 16. He calls them the salt of the earth, the light of the world. And to crown all he said, " My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me; and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any pluck them out of my hand." John x. 27, 28. Can any man in his senses read Christ's addresses to the scribes and pharisees, and believe that he considered them as members of his church, the church of God, and the best church in the world? No, there is not a man on earth can believe such jargon. Now if circumcision constituted membership, they must be considered all as members. That cir- cumcision constituted membership, is the faith of all pajdorantists, with whom I have been acquainted. From what has been said, the conclusion is irre- fragable, that the covenant made with Abraham con- stituted no church formally; and that the Jews ne- ver called themselves so; nor could such materials bear the name with any propriety of language. If they were a'church before the gospel dispensation. CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 5i they are one to this very day. For if circumcision ini- tiated them into membership, they still continue the rite, and must be a church to the end of time, if they perform the operation; and this will forever continue their membership according to Peter Ed- wards's system. What is that thing, which is meant by the church, or EK>cA>j(ria? The Greeks meant by it an assembly called together.* The Jews may have used the Hebrew words Cahal and gheda; but they could mean nothing more than the Greeks did by ExjtAjjo-iaf, which was an assembly called together. But it was impossible for them to have the same idea of the word, as we have under the gospel dispensa- tion; for no such body did then exist. The Jews were so far from being saints, that many of them were gross idolaters, adulterers, fornicators, and even sodomites. To call such materials a church of God, or of Christ, is as great an insult on him, as to spit in his face, as the soldiers did in the days erf his humiliation. Peter Edwards's killing argument is, that chil- dren were once, by God's appointment, members of the church; and they have never been cast out either by God or man.f This argument has no force, if the Jewish nation were never called a church, which is the system that I espouse; but in any point of view, this argument is false. If by children, we are to understand the descendents of Abraham, they * Archaeo. Atticje, lib. 3. cap. 2. wx-itten by Tliomas Godwin» B. D f Candid Reasons, p. fj. S2 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. were not all included in that covenant. For the chil- dren of Ishmael, and the sons of Keturah with Esau, were excluded. At best only the males were in this Cycloptic thing called a church; and perhaps that was not one half of the nation. A bad cause will force men to use shameful and deceitful argu- ments! Peter Edwards pursues his subject by quoting Matt. xi. 43. " Therefore I say unto you, the king- dom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof," Now what is this to the purpose? There is no mention made of infant membership. That is true, but every thing is to be proved by inference: that's the thing that can do wonders, which were never contemplated in the scriptures. Therefore Peter tells us " The plain meaning of this passage, is, that as in time past, the church of God, which is his kingdom, was limited to Judea, so in the future, he would have a church in the Gentile world. The taking the kingdom of God from the Jews, and giving it to the Gentiles de- notes, 1. The ceasing of a regular church state among the Jews," &.c. I know not in what part of scripture, Peter can find the church called the king- dom of God. If he has found it in the talmud or koran, it is nothing to the purpose. It is not meant in Matt. xxi. 43. for in this passage the gospel dis- pensation is meant, as will appear by considering the plxrase. The kingdom of God and the kingdom of heaven are used to the same purpose; and either y CANDIP REASONS EXAMINED. 53 means a state of glory hereafter, or the gospel dis- pensation on earth. A few passages of scripture will settle this point. When John made his appearance, he said, " Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Matt. iii. 2. In the same sense it is used, Matt. xii. 28. " But if I cast out devils by the Spi- rit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unco you." And what was come unto them? The dispen- sation of the gospel, which is the power of God, unto every one that belie^'^eth; for the kingdom of God is not meat and drink but righteousness and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. When Christ sent his seventy disciples to preach, he commanded them to say, " The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you." Luke x. 9. What was come nigh unto them? The gospel dispensation. Our Lord tells us, '^' that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." Matt. xix. 24. In this p^issage it must mean a state of glory, and cannot mean the church on earth; for matters of fact demonstrate that rich men gain admittance into the church rather ea- sier than the poor. In a large sense the whole world is called the kingdom of heaven. Matt. xiii. 24. over which Christ reigns; for all power in hea- ^ en and earth is delivered into his hand; and he must reign till all his enemies are put under his feet. In this sense, we are to understand the phrase in the parable of the tares. It is quite preposterous to un- derstand this parable as a picture of Christ's church, 54 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED, because that is never called the world. This point is decided by him who was never mistaken. And he says, " The field is the world." Mark that, not the church. " The good seed is the children of the kingdom, but the tares are the children of the wicked one." Matt. xiii. 38. Both must grow to- gether till Christ comes; and then he will receive his seed home to himself. It must excite pity, to see a learned gentleman apply this passage to the church of Christ; whereas it plainly refers to his general government of the whole world, and is descriptive of the state of matters under the gospel dispen- sation. From my remarks, it plainly follows, that the gospel dispensation is that which was taken from the Jews and given unto the Gentiles; but the name Jew did not become extinct by the Gentiles becom- ing the most numerous, as Peter has falsely asserted; for at an early period of Christianity the disciples were called christians at Antioch. This is supposed to have taken place, A. D. 42. and at that time, there is no evidence that the Gentiles were the most numerous; for ecclesiastical history proves that the Jews were numerous for a century, and became very troublesome to the churches by their attach- ment to the Jewish customs, and in particular their attachment to circumcision. For the dream, that bap- tism came in the room of circumcision, was not known at that time. Under the gospel dispensation, God concluded ail under sin. If they were circum- CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 55 cised, they were not the better; if they were not, they were nothing worse. We will follow Peter Edwards to another me- taphorical text. Pasdorantists are very fond of meta- phors. Perhaps the reason is, there is not one text that will establish their childish infant membershipj but metaphors are like a nose of wax; it may be, by art, fitted to either side. Men make them say what best suits their system, be it what it may. On Rom. xi, 23, 24. Peter Edwards expatiates, and says, " The olive tree is to denote a visible church state."* I answer, the word, visible, when applied to and con- nected with church is nonsense; for what is visible can be seen by all who have eyes; but it is not by aid of my optics that I know a church or church members. I might see a thousand people in one day in a city; but by this vision, I know nothing about their church membership. The knowledge of that is obtained by information, not by sight. The very phrase has been fabricated without sense, and for a bad purpose. Christ's church never was visible, nor ever will be. They are his church by profession; and that is enough. The scripture ne- ver used the term; but wise men can help it out, where it has been a little defective. Some men would have us 'to believe what they do not believe themselves. Can any man believe that the scriptures contain * Candid Reasons, page 40. 56 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. the credenda and agenda^ i. e. all that we should believe and do, and the same still helping the Holy Ghost, by men's inventions? Now I will proceed to consider the olive tree'; but I do not agree with Peter calling it a visible church state; but on the other hand the church. But w'hcit is meant by it? I answer tliat church that was iormed at Jerusalem out of the nation of the Jews at first, and for that reason is called their own olive tree. And if ever the Jews become christians, they will be grafted into the church, which Christ formed at first out of Jews at Jerusalem; which, as it was at first composed of Jews called by grace, is called theii' own olive tree. Into this, the Gentiles, who were called by grace, were grafted in among the Jews; the church being composed of believing Jews and believing Gentiles. This statement harmo- nizes with the word used in the original, E5C}cA)j(r<(3f, meaning such as are called by grace. In Acts ii. 47. it is said, " The Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved." From whence did he add them? From the Jewish nation, but not from the Jewish church; for no such thing did ever exist, as will appear by the remarks which I have made. Pe- ter Edwards's pert fancy of the church being the same thing dressed up in new clothes, is a conceit of his own; but whether he took it from the koran or the talmud, or it is the production of his own brains, he has not told us plainly. But one thing is evident: that is, that in a very cai'eful search, I CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 57 could not find it. Between the church of Christ, and Peter Edwards's imaginary church, there is a dif- ference in the qualifications to become members. All under the Jewish economy, were necessarily, to descend from Abraham by natural generation, and to be circumcised to initiate them conxpletely a3 members; but the church of Christ at Jerusalem was established on another plan; for faith and repen- tance were always required, as prerequisites to bap- tism. Hence may be observed, the apostle's address to the convinced Jews. " Repent, and be baptized every one of you, in the name of Jesus Clirist." This was not a singular case, but the uniform prac- tice. It is said, " When they believed Philip preach- ing the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized both men and women." Acts viii. 12. We see here both men and women, when they believed, were bap- tized; but not a word about infants or their fitness for baptism. All the fitness a baby can have is to Ijave a body; and if this constitutes fitness, then all animals which have bodies are fit subjects. All that has been said on this subject is such a jargon of nonsense, that I did not think it worthy of any re- marks. Were v/e to search the whole New Testament, we shall find none baptized, but such as possessed faith and repentance. This constitutes an essentia] distinction between the church of Christ and the Jewish economy, and finally proves that the apostle 58 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. meant by the olive tree, the New Testament church, which is the only thing that, with any propriety; can be called a church. The church at Jerusalem were a separate body from the Jews, called by grace to be the disciples of^ Christ, and were as such persecuted by the Jews. What a pity the poor Jews had no psedorantists among them, to let them know, it was the identical same old church, which they had ever since the days of Abraham! But the Jews had never heard of this jargon: it was not then invented. Nor had the christians ever heard of it. Nor was it invented for ages afterwards. It is the creature of ignorance and superstition, invented by christians, who are become Judaizers, who wish to make things under the gos- pel dispensation agree with the peculiarities of the Jewish nation, who never called themselves an EKKKt;ffKx> TOO 9-sov, but thcy were called the congrega- tion of the Lord, i. e. i:vvxyuyYi rov kv^iov. Should the Jews ever be converted, which seems probable from Rom. xii. they will return to the New Testament church, which was first formed at Jerusalem, out of Jews called to be saints. And as this church was first made up of Jews by nature, the returning Jews may be well said, to be grafted into their own olive tree. The inference, that I would draw from the arguments advanced, is, that Jews and christians were distinct bodies; and that being a Jew did not give any right to be received into the church of Christ as a christian. The gospel con- CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 59 siders all men in the same state, withcw.it any refer* ence to one nation more than another. Hence the apostle said, " What then? are we better than they? He answers, "no, in no wise; for we have before prov- ed both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin." Rom. iii. 9. When Paul wrote to the Corinthian^, he gave us the character of the apostles, viz. Not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully. I suspect in considering Eph. ii. 14, Peter forgot to imitate the apostles; for his whole reasoning carries great appearance of craft, and hand- ling .the word of God deceitfully. The text speaks of a partition between Jews and Gentiles, or in other words, all nations. 2, That this partition was broken down in Paul's time. 3. That the end in view was to make one new man out of Jews and Gentiles; not to dress an old man in new clothes, v. 15th. Here I justly remark, had Peter Edwards wished to avoid deceit and craft, he would have informed the reader, what the partition was between Jew and Gentile, which separated them; but not one word is said on the subject. All is left to the guess of the reader. Such pretended comments may suit bigots, who are like young robins, that open their mouths to receive any thing, whether it be a cherry or a cherry-stone; but such designed omissions and eva- sions will not be well received by such as wish sin. cerely to know the truth. The partition wall, between Jew and Gentile, was ciixumcision, which was a national mark, and QO CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. designed to distinguish them from all other nations. It is well known with what contempt the Jews looked on all other nations, calling them emphatically tfncircumcised; and it was as natural for all nations to despise the Jews. This fixed the enmity, together with the other Jewish ceremonies, which appears from verse 15th, where it is said, " Having abolished in his flesh the enmity^ even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace." Not an,€ild man new dressed. Moses incorporated circumci* sion \nih his laws, though it existed from At^ra- liam's time as a national mark of distinction. This, and others, were called carnal ordinances im- posed on the Jews, till the. time of reformation. Heb. ix. 10. The gospel dispensation was the time of re- formation. Christ having abolished the enmity, i. e. the cause of it, to form a church unto himself ori- ginally made of Jews; but the Gentiles afterwards were joined with them. The text says, for to make in himself of twain one new man, not an old man dressed up in new clothes. This whim originated in Peter's fruitful imagination; for I never heard of it before. Indeed the change is so great, that very few can believe it to be the old man. The scrip- tures say the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. From whence was this addition made? The answer is plain: from the Jewish nation, who were never called a church; for it is evident, CANDID REASOI>lS EXAMINED. Ql that the church is something different and distinct from any thing the Jews were before. 2. In Paul's time the middle wall of partition was broken down. Who broke down this wall? The text says Christ, " Who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of paitition be- tween us." V. 14. How disingenuous was it for Peter Edwards to draw this conclusion, viz. " That the Gentiles w^re not formed into a new church."* By which it is insinuated that the baptists held that senti- ment, or their system led to it. If Peter did not know better, he certainly never understood the bap- tists' system; for they believe that the gospel church had no existence before that dispensation, and at first was formed out of the Jewish nation; but after the ascension of Christ, the gospel extended to all nations, Gentiles as well as Jews; and when any be- lieved, they were baptized, and afterwards joined the church, by their free choice, and voluntary act. For baptism makes none a member of the church of Christ. It is a subsequent act. One thing may be remarked in Peter Edwards: he never pretends to give us one text, to show us any example of bap- tizing children. This is to be done by inference or analogy; and why? Because he knew there was not one text in the scripture to support his practice. Volumes have been Avritten on the subject; but not H single text can be produced for the superstitious * Csjidid Reasons, page 46, 62 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. practice. I could refute every argument used on the text under consideration; but as it would be only wast of time and paper, I will only give Peter a scrap of Latin and pass on. " Vox et prater ea ni- hil, i. e. Tush! A voice and nothing else. I pass to make some remarks on the texts, which refer to children; for if the term child, or children is used, the common class of pasdorantists look imme- diately for baptism, although the text has no refer- ence to the subject. Peter produces two texts out of the evangelists; but not one of them has any re- ference to baptism, neither explicitly, nor implicitly; first, Luke ix. 47, 48. *' And Jesus took a child, and set him by him; and (when he had taken him in his arms, Mai'k ix. 36.) he said unto them, whosoever shall receive this child, in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth him that sent me; for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great." There is something extremely dis- honest and unfair in Peter Edwards, when he pre- tends to quote scripture; for I do not remember his giving a fair statement of the subject. His conduct seems like to Ananias: he keeps back part and pre- tends to give the whole. To do justice and act ho- nourably, every text, and the occasion of its being spoken, should be considered. I will therefore first give the texts, and then make my comments. I will begin with Mark ix. but I find it necessar}^ to begin at the 33d verse and transcribe five verses. " And he came to Capernaum; and being in the house, he CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 63 asked them, what was it that ye disputed among yourselves by the way? But they held their peace; for by the way they had disputed among themselves, who should be the greatest. And he sat down and called the twelve, and saith unto them, if any man desire to be first, the same shall be last of all, and servant of all. And he took a child, and set him in the midst of them; and when he had taken him in his arms, he said unto them, whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me; and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me." This is Mark's account of the subject. The statement of Luke is very similar. Luke ix. 46, 47, 48. " Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be the greatest. And Jesus perceiving the thought of their heart, took a child and set him by him, and said unto them, who- soever shall receive this child in my name, receiv- eth me; and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth him that sent me; for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great." Let us now see what the evangelist Matthew says on the subject. We will first transcribe six verses, beginning at chap, xviii. and first verse. " At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, who is the gi'eatest in the kingdom of heaven? And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, and said, verily I say unto you, except ye be converted, and become 64- CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble him- self as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name, receiveth me. And whoso shall offend one of these little ones, which be- lieve in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea." I will give the subject fair play; therefore I will transcribe Matt, xix. 13, 14, 15. " And there were brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them and pray; and the disciples rebuked them. But Jesus said, suffer little children, and forbid them not to come unto me, for of such is the king- dom of heaven. And he laid his hands on them and departed." Two passages yet remain in the evan- gelists; and I think that will finish the subject of children, viz. Mark x. 13, 14, 15, 16. " And they brought young children to him, that he should touch them; and his disciples rebuked those that brought them; but when Jesus saw it, he was much dis- pleased, and said unto them, suffer the little chil- dren to come unto me, and forbid them not; for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, v/hosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. And he took them up in his arms, put his hands upon them and blessed them." The last passage is in Luke xviii. 15, 16, 17. " And they brought unto him also in- CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 65 faiits, that he would touch them; but when his dis- ciples saw it, they rebuked them. But Jesus called them unto him, and said, suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not; for of such is the kingdom of God. Verily I say unto you, who- soever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, shall in no wise enter therein." My reason for transcribing all these passages fully, was because by this statement, it will appear the design of Clirist was to check the aspiring dis- position of his disciples; for they had been disputing who should be the greatest. Matt, xviii. 1. " Who is the greatest in the kingdom oi heaven?" Mark ix. 33, 34. " By the way they had been disputing among themselves, who should be the .greatest." Luke ix. 46. " Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be the greatest." There were no papists among Christ's disciples, or they would all have pointedto Peter, and very submissively kissed his toe. The three evangelists state the occasion of Christ's remarks and reference to . hildren. It was to check their pride and ambition. And could this end be answered by telling them that infants were church members? No man can refrain from smiling at such nonsense. Is this the unanswerable casuist about infant membership? Peter Edwards; in his Candid Reasons, means by ciie kingdoii> of God, the church;* and in these passages under consideration > * Candid Rea«^on?. va^c 3S. ^6 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. he means the same. I have refuted this sentiment already, in my remarks on his explanation of Mat- thew xxi. 43. The words are, " Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of Giod shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof*" I would refer the reader to what is said there, only that the most of readers are forgetful, and cannot retain the subject, except it is immediately before their eyes. I hope this will be accepted as an apology for the many tautologies in this pamphlet. The evangelist Matthew uses the phrase, " The kingdom of heaven." Mark uses " the kingdom of God." I believe it is generally agreed, they mean the same thing. We will explain what is meant by the kingdom of heaven, or the kin'gdom, and then con- sider the necessary qualifications to enter into that kingdom. I cannot find that either of the evange- lists, strictly speaking, means the church. These phrases in the evangelists generally mean the gospel dispensation, or the gospel itself, or the state of things under the gospel dispensation. Sometimes the phrase means the dominion of Christ over the whole world; as, all power in heaven and earth is de- livered in his hand by the Father; but generally it means a state of grace or a state of glory. Peter Edwards, in his pamphlet, will have us understand by the kingdom of God, or of heaven, the church; nor do I remember a passage in which it is used in any other sense by him. In this, 1 conceive, he is quite mistaken. The kingdonfi of God, or hea\ en, CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 57 was never applied to the Jewish economy, which, ac- -cording to his own system, affords a presumptive ar- gument that the Jews were never considered as a church, formally. The phrase is peculiar to the New Testament; for there was no such society as a church before the gospel day. No nation can be called a church without the abuse of the word. John the Baptist is the first who used the phrase, " The kingdom of heaven is at hand." If Peter Ed- wards is the Greek scholar, which he would wish to pass for, he knows what the Greek word means, " Is at hand." Were we to take the words as Peter would have us, then it means the church is at hand. That w^ould suppose, that it did not exist before: a sentiment not pleasing to pcedorantists. The plain and easy truth is, that the gospel dispensation was at hand, or drew nigh. Perhaps some will say, Peter did not mention this text. Very true, he never men- tions a text that will not suit him. Let us try, Mark X. 15. " Verily I say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God, as a little child, he shall not enter therein." Peter's sense would oblige us to understand the text thus, " Whosoever shall not receive the church, as a little child, he shall not en- ter therein." Whether this is the meaning oy not, the reader may judge. Again we will try another passage, in which the kingdom of God is mentioned. Matt. xix. 24. *' It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." If we imdei> 68 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. stand this passage to mean the church, they had hard work then to get into the church. Sed tempo- ra mutantur, i e. Times are changed in favour of the rich of this world. Let us hear what Christ said to Nicodemus " Except a man be born again, he camiot see the kingdom of God," that is the church of God. The reader will be at no loss, to know what is meant by the kingdom of God here; for it means a state of glory in heaven, into which none can enter without regeneration. I will now consider the necessary quahiications to enter into the kingdom of God. The evangelist Matthew gives the qualifications thus, " Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Matt, xviii. 3. Our Lord teaches us, in this passage, that con- version is a necessary qualification for the kingdom of heaven, in the sense in which he uses the word, which demonstrates that he means a state of glory, into which none can be admitted without regenera- tion. In Luke we have the qualifications in these words, " Verily I say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, shall in no wise enter therein." Peter Edwards did not know what was meant by the kingdom of heaven, and the kingdom of God, or he designedly perverted the meaning to support his fallacious system. We shall see further the qualifications, by observing what he has said on the Greek tuv tojoutwv.* Peter * Candid Reasons, page 55. CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 69 Edwards asserted, " That this construction had no- thing to support it." What! nothing to support it? I will make appear that it hath both scripture and common sense to support it; but indeed he treats both as if they were nothing. What must we then depend on? His bold assertion, without scripture or sense. I know not how far his word m England may pass as currency; but with me it is no better than the old continental paper money, in its last dying- gasp. The phrase, which he said, had nothing to support it, was the meaning which some baptist had fixed on the Greek tuv ioiovtwv. The baptists affirmed that " Of suchlike," meant adults of a child-like dis- position. This is the construction which our Solo- mon says, has nothing to support it; but I will make it appear that it has both scripture and common sense, and liis construction has neither to support it. In the first place, there is no dispute about what is meant by little children; for perhaps some of them were a year or two old, or younger; but the whole dispute is about the application of the transaction meant by the phrase " Of such, or such like:" whe- ther it refers to the size of their bodies, or the qua lities of the mind. The baptists assert the latter. The psedorants pretend to believe the former. Well let us try " of such is the kingdom of God," and ap- ply it to the age and size of children. Peter Ed- wards tells us the kingdom of God means the church of God; then we must understand it as if it had been said, " Of such is the church in toto,^'' It wilif 70 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. not do to say it means part of the church; for it is said, " Of such is the kingdom of God." A fine church, which would require more nurses than bishops. If the church is composed t?t toto of in- fants, then Peter Edwards can have no place in iti for I never knew an infant that understood Greek. It is granted that after some time, they can say, mammy and daddy. This observation will make Peter wince and try to avoid the dilemma, and try to squeeze in by quibble a small amendment, and say, of such is part of the church. Stop, that will not do; for the text is, " Of such is the kingdom of God." We used to think that church was a volun- tary assembly formed to maintain divine worship; but Peter by dressing up an old man in new clothes, has made the foolishest assembly in the world, con- sisting of babies. There never was such a society as this; what, a society of babies literally! Nonsense seems confined to the church of God, where infants are supposed to be the materials. This account badly agrees with Paul's description given of a church. When he wrote to Timothy, he said, " But if I tarry long, that thou maycst know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and the ground of the truth." 1 Tim. iii. 15. Pray what ai-guments can infants bring to support the truth? Perhaps they can say mammy or daddy, and that is all. Of such, or like unto these is the kingdom of God. Now the likeness must refer to the age and size of the body» CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 71 or to the qualities of the mind. I have demonstrated the impossiblity of the likeness referring to the cor- poral size of an infant; and I am rather of opinion that Peter Edwards himself, who is a wonderful man, will not attempt to maintain that meaning. We are compelled by scripture and common sense, to have recourse to some other meaning; and it ap- pears plainly, that the likeness did not consist in the age or size of the body; but in the qualities of the soul, viz. unambitious, meek and lowly in heart, whether old or young, I despise the phrase adult, as no way expressive of the faith of a baptist; for we never limit baptism to the age of a person, but to his qualifications, profession and confession. " If thou belie vest with all thine heart, thou mayest," is our faith and practice, without reference to age. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salva- tion. Were we to examine every text where rm TOJovTwv, that is, " of such, or such like" is used, we would find that it referred to the qualities of the mind, and not to the size of the body. Mark said, " Verily I say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein." Mark x. 15. The gospel is to be re- ceived by a humble mind. The very same senti- ment i^ inforced by Luke. " Verily 1 say unto you, whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, shall in no wise enter therein." Luke xviii. 17, Taking the passages in this meaning, and 72 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. they cannot mean any other, they come with force to reprove the aspiring ambition of the disciples who had been disputing who should be the greatest; but if we suppose he told them that infants belonged to the church, the argument has in it no suitableness to reprove their ambition. How many will be finally disappointed, who have enjoyed large salaries on earth, and lived in pride and pomp, and fared sump- tuously every day! But it will remain an eternal truth, that blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. I fear I shall tire the pa- tience of the reader with my remarks on the phrase, of such^ or such like; but as these passages are for ever brought to prove infants' right to baptism, though they have in fact, no more reference to that subject than the first chapter of Genesis, I must make a . few more remarks, to make still plainer, if plainer can be, that the words refer to the qualities of the mind, and not to the size of bodies, or age of the persons. Our Lord said, in Matt, xviii. 3. " Verily I say unto you, except ye be converted and be- come as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." The gate is strait and the way narrow that leads to life, and few there be that find it. We see children presented as patterns of humility, to the professed followers of Christ. This is evident from v. 4. " Whosoever shall humble him- self as diis little child, the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven." The man who has the greatest CANDID REA^NS EXAMINED. 73 degree of humility on earth, will shine the brightest in glory. Our Lord still illustrates the case farther by saying, whoso shall receive one such, tccciSiqv TOiouTov, little child in my name, receiveth me. Our Lord is speaking nothing about babies here; but of them that were converted and became like them (To;oi/ra>v); and this likeness consisted in the quali- ties of their minds, not in the size or age. v. 5. And in v. 6. he adds, " Whoso shall offend one of these little ones, which believe in me," &c. Here are the little ones to which Christ improves the transaction; the little ones were his humble disciples, who believed in him. And he adds in Matt. x. 4,2. " Whosoever sliall give to drink unto one of these little ones, a cup of cold water only, in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward." Here it is evident, that by little ones he means his humble folio v/ers or disciples. When Christ mentions receiving little children, he cannot mean them who were so in age; but them w1k> were of a child-like disposition, lowly in mind, as young converts are. And this is evident from what Matthew said, when he recorded the words of Christ.. *' But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me," &c. Matt, xviii. 6. Can Peter Edwards suppose that infants believe in Christ? If they are capable of exercising the grace of faith, they are capable of exercising unbelief; and as they can profess nothing, how will Peter come to the know- ledge of their states? I think it must be guess-work« f, 74 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. But perhaps I am a little too fast; I had almost for- gotten that Peter asserted that union to Clirist was visible; for Visible is one of Peter's hocus pocus words. As the sentiment is new, I will transcribe it; but it ought not to have been printed. The words are, " To receive a person in the name of a disciple of Christ, is to treat him as one belonging to Christ, as one in visible union with him."* Peter Edwards is a singular man; for I never heard before that union to Christ was a thing visible. The baptists do not pretend to be so eagle-eyed as this. No, they only judge charitably of the profession made; whether the person has any spiritual union to Christ or not, they leave to a better judge. It must be a bad cause, which tempts, in trymg to support it, to use unscrip- tural phi'ases, which being properly examined ap- pear mere nonsense. The Holy Ghost has said no- thing about visible union to Christ, or visible church: these are the creatures of men's brains, and have no foundation in the religion of Christ. These terms have been fabricated for evil purposes; and custom makes them familiar without examination; just as people foolishly by custom call a place of worship a church. Peter Edwards is no respecter of persons; for ■when he thinks it would help his system, he is not afraid to charge even the apostles with wilfully sin- ning contrary to their own knovviedge. His charge * Caaiclid Kcaaons, page 53'. CANDID REASO^JS EXAMINED, 75 against them is contained expressly in these words, viz. " For in that they acted contrary to a known principle they knew, in keeping those, who belonged to the church, from the church's head."* I rather think Peter doth not expect to meet with the apos- tles very soon; for if they now have the temper of Paul and Barnabas, the quarrel between them and Peter would be very great. What a dreadful charge! sinning against know- ledge; and this charge remains on earth recorded by the great Peter Edwards! I rather think something may be said in their favour. It was the first time that children had been brought to Christ to lay his hands on them, and pray for them, and bless tihenj^ It was a novelty; and they might have escaped if they had not fell into Peter Edwards's hands. Be- sides, they- may plead that they had never heard of baby members in the gospel church; and they could learn nothing from the Jewish economy; for there is not even the phrase membership in the Old Testa- ment, I think, upon the whole, a less censure would ha\'e been more decent. To conclude this subject, the reader may judge whether I have not unanswerably proved, that in the passages, where the phrases, " of such or such," are used, they do not refer to infants in age; but the humble disciples of Christ of whatever age they might be, of an humble mind subjected to the obedience of faith. * /..'nndid Reasong) pag'e 57 ■ 76 Candid reasons examined. I shall therefore proceed to consider the next pas-^ sage, in which Peter displays his ignorance or his craftiness in handling the word of God dishonestly. Acts ii, 38th and 39th verses are to be considered. One thing is evident in the writings of Peter Ed- wards: he can find a meaning for a text, that not one in a thousand could have thought of. The words are *' Repent and be baptized every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is to you and your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall calL" Peter Edwards has filled ten pages of his pam- phlet on this passage, and used the word promise fifty-four times; but very craftily avoided giving the reader any information concerning what was pro- mised. In that he handled the word of God deceit- fully, and designedly so. If Peter was an ignorant man, such perversion of scripture might be excused. Hearing the word Promise so often repeated without letting the reader know what was promised, brought to my mind the papists' prayer to the lady Mary; in which they use the words, ora pro nobis, forty- four times, but never inform the good lady what they want, only ora pro nobis., i. e. pray for us. The pro, mise, the promise is repeated again and again; but \x& never informs the reader what is that which is promised. Had he done this, the dispute would have been ended; for it would have appeared plainly that CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 77 infants were not designed by the term children. I would request the reader to turn back and read the verses over, and he will see that the Holy Ghost is that which was promised; " And ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is to you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." These words were used by the prophet Joel, chap, ii. V. 32. the very words of the apostle referred to, as appears by reading from the 16th to the 22d verse inclusive of this chapter. On the very subject of the out-pouring of the Holy Ghost, the apostle was speaking. On the very day of pentecost, when the extraordinary gifts of the Spirit appeared. Now, says the text, when this was noised abroad, the mul- titude came together, and were amazed; but some said they were filled with new wine. The apostle's sermon was to convince them, that they were mis- taken about wine; but on the other hand, it was the fulfilment of a prophecy recorded in Joel, which he repeated, according to the Septuagint. In this pro- mise it it is said, " I will pour out of my spirit upon all fleshy and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy." We cannot suppose that the prophet meant by sons and daughters little infants; for be- fore they could prophesy, they must learn to speak. By sons and daughters in the text, is meant what the apostle calls your children. Children are children as v/ell when they are old, as when they are young. This is a point which bears no dispute.; but men 78 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. may quibble without any fouiKiation for ai-gument. After several other things said by Joel, he concludes the promise by saying, " For in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, and in the remnant, whom the Lord shall call." The apostle renders it, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Let any man, not intoxicated with the wiii^e of the whore of Babylon, read the whole promise in Joel, and the apostle's reasoning on it, in the Acts, second chapter; and 1^ must plainly see that by children is meant, what Joel called, sons and daugh- ters; and that the thing promised was the Holy Ghost in his gospel work, both as a spirit of sanctification with the extraordinary gifts, and as a Comforter. Under the latter character he is promised to all be- lievers, and is made good to this very day. As the text has it, " And ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Perhaps it may be asked, how did the apostle know that believers should receive the gift of the Holy Ghost? The answer is plain: be- cause the promise is to you and your children, called in Joel, sons and daughters, and to all that are afar off; by which the Gentiles may be intended. Tlie pro- mise of the gift of the Holy Ghost, is limited, whether Jew or Gentile, to as many as the Lord our God shall call; which is descriptive of a gospel church, who profess to be called by grace. To real christians the Holy Ghost is promised in the character of a comforter. John xiv. 16, 17. and xvi. 7. 13. CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 79 Sometimes it surprises me, why this passage is brought forward in this dispute; but it is as good as any other; for there is no scripture for receiving in- fants as members of the church. The thing in itself is perfectly absurd. A church should be an intelli- gent society: it cannot be composed of members, who know not their right hand from the left. What has been said might serve for a complete answer to all the glosses of Peter Edwards on this passage;, but if notice is not taken of his pretended reasoning, it might be consti'ued, that it was be- cause we could make no reply. Peter Edwards has confined himself to three conclusions.* 1. That the phrase extends to adults and infants. 2. That this promise must comprehend adults and infants, wherever it comes, even as long as God shall continue his word to us. . 3. That infants are placed in the same relation to baptism, as they were of old to circumcision. Sometimes the baptists are so idly employed as to take a lexicon in their hand, and even a Latin dictionary. I could ndt find the ^^ord adult in the holy scriptures. I concluded it must be introduced in this dispute to answer some purpose not found in the scriptures. I found in my Latin dictionary the Vvord adultiis; and the meaning was a person of full growth. I supposed that to be as large as ever they uill be. This seemed to embarrass me; for the '' Candid l?*ea"ons, puirc 59y 80 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. greater part of mankind, are in an intermediate state, between infancy and maturity, and are left out of Peter Edwards's classes; for they are neither in one state or the other. If I may use our author's lan- guage, I would say, can any living creature tell how Peter Edwatds came to know, that any of the apos- tles' hearers left infants at home? This must be a guess of his, or a presumption of his own, for which he so freely censures Mr. Booth. I will not dispute much about the Greek term, nwcx,. But it is well known by linguists that it often means posterity, whether old or young; but 7va,i$itxA>;(r<«., means a voluntary assembly; and in this sense the heathens atid the Septuagint use it; but they could not have, the same idea of it, that Christ and' the apostles had, when it was applied to such as were called by grace out of the world. Nothing need be said about the right of infants being taken away; for Jewish infants never had any membership in the church; as none did then exist formally; as I have fully proved. And notwithstand- ing all the Jioise that is m.ade about it, the very term p 96 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. is not found in the Old Testament. It is a term pe- culiar to the New Testament; where church mem- bership has some sense, and points out the relation to Christ, who is head, and they are the body, in whom all the building, fitly framed together, grow- eth unto an holy temple in the Lord. I hope Peter Edwards will not charge me as being a church mur- derer, as he did Mr. Booth;* for I could find none to lay violent hands on. I found it a mere phantom, that vanished as I approached. Peta* Edwards says, ** According to the principles of the baptists God had no church in this world, at least for fifteen hundred years."! And what of that? Doth this prove the bap- tists to be wrong? By no means; for God had no church formally for inore than two thousand years preceding Abraham's time. And if he could do with- out one more than two thousand years, why might he not do without one fifteen hundred years? I think it would have been better to have continued longer without one, than to have one made up in part of idolaters, whoremongers, adulterers, and even so- domites, and without any form of discipline for four hundred and thirty year*. And even after Moses's time, they were guilty of sacrificing their children, worshipping Baal Peor, and shameful wickedness, that can be scarcely mentioned witli decency. Let the reader peruse Judges, Sam.uel and the" Kings, f Candiil KeusoDS, pa^^c 122. F.r.'ksiscidc meniis -a church mur- derer. * Candid Reasons, pajre 120 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 97 and he will see, that to call such a people a church of the blessed God, is such a vile prostitution of lan- guag-e, that no man, who has considered the subject, can use. Yet at this time, and all preceding ages, God had saints on etirth; but they were not formed into a church formally. But I defy any one to prove that the Jews, consisting of good and bad, male and female, old and young, were ever called a church formally. And this is all I insist on; and which I have irrefragably proved. To talk of corresponding words in the Hebrew, is nonsense; for nothing existed at that time like to the word Church in the New Tes- tament. The Jews had a word for an assembly, and so had the heathens: they used it for such assemblies as our courts; but instead of a bell, they called to- gether by a crier. I would say no more till I come to the mode of baptism, only Peter Edw^ards has used much sophis^ try about female communion, which shall not pass unnoticed. Our author triumphs on this subject, as if he had found an argument to ruin the baptist sys- tem. It is not necessary to fix on any page on this subject; for it makes a large portion of his pamphlet. The reader may look over many places; and in page 95 he will find him saying, " According to the prin- ciples and reasonings of the baptists, a Vv'oman, how- ever qualified, can have no right to the Lord's table." This subject is repeated again, as if now the baptists are ruined forever. Stop, Peter, you have not yet heard all that can be said on the subject. Your assertion, s. 98 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. if true, amounts only to this: the baptists do one thing without an example or command; doth it fol- low that paedorantists may do another without com- mand or example in scripture: to wit, they mayran- tize a child and call it baptism. If this way of infer- ring proves any thing, it proves tacitly that there is neither scripture nor example for sprinkling children; and this is the truth. Our author ought to have re- membered that two wrongs do not make one right. I will give the subject a fair hearing; and we will find as good authority for the communion of women as for men. Yea, I will assert it positively, we have as good authority for one as the other; if men are commanded so are women commanded. The fair way to come at the truth is to examine the institu- tion itself. And we have a full account of it in Matt. xxvi. 26. viz, " And as they were eating, Jesus took bread and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, take, eat; this is my body." Luke adds, " This do in remembrance of me." xxii. 19. Mark to whom this command was given. The text says it was to his disciples. Was this command binding on them only? or doth it include ail disci- ples? This point admits of no dispute; the command was obligatory on all disciples' of every description to the end of the world. Here the point is proved; for women are expressly called disciples; and here is as explicitly a command for the female as the male. Take this syllogism on the subject, viz. Christ com- manded his disciples to do this m remembrance of CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 99 him; but women are his disciples; therefore he com- manded women to do this in remembrance of him. Here we have the command. Let our learned author try his logic on this syllogism; and he will find no more in the conclusion than in the premises. It can- not be denied, that women are included in the term disciple as well as men, and are expressly called so, in Acts ix. 36. The words are, " Now there was at Joppa a certain disciple named Tabitha." Now what can Peter say? He must hide his blushing face. Is there not as good authority for the communion of women as men? The very same. The command is extended to the one as well as to the other; and is as binding on one as the other. There is no way to avoid the force of the argument, but to turn quaker, and say it was binding on neither. Was I to say no more, to prove that women have an equal right to be admitted to the Lord's Supper, as men; I should think, except the person has parted with truth and modesty at once, we should never hear Peter's quibble mentioned any more. I would suppose, if Peter Edwards has not alto- gether departed from truth and modesty at the same time, we shall never hear him say again, as he has done, " Can the right of women to the Lord's table be proved from any express law or example in the holy scriptures? Answer. Here Mr. Booth affurms, and I deny^"* • Candid Reasons, page 100. 100 Candid reasons examined. If any command of Christ can be called a law, here is one before us, and is an express law for fe- male communion. This is authority sufficient, and so express that both the apostles and all christians in succeeding ages understood it so to mean, and practised accordingly. When Paul received his in- structions from heaven, it was so understood; and he delivered to the Corinthian church, consisting of male and female, the very command he had received of the Lord. This will bring us to consider the statement made in 1 Cor. xi. in particular, 28 verse. " Let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup." What Mr, Booth said on this chapter, has given great offence; against whom Peter has vented his rage by a 'volley of such abusive language, that, if I had not been otherwise informed, I should have concluded Mr. Booth was a man void of either a religious or moral character. I never read Mr. Booth on the subject in my life: I must therefore depend on Peter Edwards's state- ment, which I find is not always to be depended on, as containing the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. His words are thus, giving Mr. Booth's state- ment, viz. " 1. Does not the term avS-^wTroc, there used, often stand as a name of our species, without any regard to sex? 2. Have we not the authority of lexicographers, and what is incomparably more, the sanction of common sense, for understanding it thus, in this passage?" We might have expected from any other man but Peter Edwards, a refutation of CANDID REASONS EXAMrNED. 101 Booth's sentiments, which were that uvB-^corrog stands often for a name of our species, and we have the au« thority of lexicographers on the subject. Now is not this all true? No man who can read Greek will deny it. I do not remember that the vaporing Peter Ed- wards has really denied it; but he has quoted nine- teen places, where it is not used, pointing out our species. And is that any refutation of Mr. Booth? And what of that? Mr. Booth never said it always meant our species. His very m.ode of stating the question implies otherwise. Does not tlie term av- S-^wTToc, there used, often stand, &c? He never said it always stood for a name of our species. Doth Peter Edwards act as a fair disputant, when he ne- ver attempts to refute the sentiment; but on the other hand, artfully tries to draw away the reader's attention by reflections on Mr. Booth's talents? Pe- ter tells us of nineteen places, where the word is otherwise used. Granted. And what of that? I have proved, from the institution of the aupper, that the command included women as well as men. I form- ed a syllogism on the subject, which cannot fairly be answered. And now I have unanswerably proved that tlfs directions in vv^hat manner this ordinance should be attended on, included male and female. I might therefore dismiss the subject, and leave the ju- dicious reader to judge, was it not for one sen- tence used against Mr. Booth by Peter Edwards, viz. " I know no jnore than the pen in my hand, 102 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED, what command it is he drives at."* I can tell you what command he drives at. The command which the Son of God gave to the apostle, and to which he refers when he said, *' For I have received of the Lord, that which also I delivered unto you," verse 23. What did Paul receive of the Lord? He receiv- ed a command, respecting the continuance of the Lord's supper. What did he deliver to the church of Corinth, consisting of males and females? That very command which he had received and nothing else, if he told the truth; and no one has convicted him yet of any falsehood. Now I hope we shall hear no more about an explicit warrant for female communion; for there is the same authority for one as there is for the other: and if there is none for females, there is none for males; there is an end of the argument. For the honour of Peter Edwards, if he should be disposed to give the world another edition of his pamphlet, I would advise him to leave out the sub- ject of female communion, especially where he was so confident and ignorant as to say on the subject, *' But as to express law, or example, there is no such thing in the scripture."! I convicted him of a broad falsehood on the subject; and he may shift for himself the best way he can, and hide his face for shame. When I hear so much said about infant mem^ * Candid Reasons, page 107. f Candid Reasons, page 8 CANDID REASONS EXA?vIINED. 103 bership, it brings to mind a curious anecdote of the Rev. George Whitefield, which he used to repeat, when he wished to expose superstition. He said when he was young, he and a young catholic went on a mountain to hunt some game: in the mean time, a thu*ider- storm arose; and they saw a cottage on the side of the mountain, to which they repaired. The cottager was going to dine on a piece of bacon. It happened to be lent; but the Roman catholic being hungry, sat down to partake, and put a piece on his fork, and raised it towards his mouth. At that mo- ment there came a tremendous clap of thunder; the catholic dropped his knife and fork, and cried out. Good Lord, what a noise about a piece of bacon!" He concluded the clap came because of his going to eat meat in time of lent. When I hear so much said in vindication of infant membership, I am in- duced to say. Good Lord, what a noise about baby membership! I have read and heard a great deal about infant membership; but I have met with only two persons, who told me what they expected from infant baptism: one was a Mohawk squaw at Fort- Pitt, in 1772, who came to me by an interpreter, to have her child baptized. I asked her, what disad- vantage she supposed it M^ould be to the child, if it was not done? She told me it would go to hell. I informed her that was a mistake; we were saved by the blood of Christ, and not by baptism. After some arguments, she appeared satisfied. I found 104 CANDID REASONS EXAINIINED. this superstition had been taught her by papist priests. The second instance happened the same season, when I was exploring the Ohio lands, under the Indiana company, and came with my fellow travel- lers to a house of one Hon-ly B-k-z, a D^itchman on Wheeling. The woman appealed much pleased at my arrival at her cabin; for she had two children not baptized. I asked her what disadvantage she thought the children laboured under for want of baptism? She replied, that she was taught they would not grow well without it. I called Mr. Clarke in, and asked him, if he thought the children would grow without baptism, provided the good woman could get mush and miik plentifully for them? Mr. Clarke ^.nswcrtd, she need not be concerned on the subject, provided she could get plenty of victuals. She said she began to think there was not so much in it; for, pointing to one of them, she said, he was as hearty a child as any she had. This woman wanted her children baptized to make them grow; but in com- mon what is expected, none .can tell. Peter Edwards and I do not much differ on this subject; for by inattention, sometimes he speaks the truth. In page tl56, he lias let one truth slip out. He said, " I do not suppose that infants, properly speaking, receive any present benefit by being bap- tized." Very well said, Peter; this is a truth, and from this yoii can never recede. Well, what is it done for? for it is as plain as tv/o and three make CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 105 five, God never commanded it, or some one would find out either a command or example for it. Why- wonderful to be told, " This is designed the more to engage the attention of parents and others to the rising generation." Strange it is to act as a stimulus, to excite neglectful parents. And pray, Peter, can you in conscience say it has that good effect? or ai-e the paedorantists naturally more neglectful of poste-- rity than others? If natural affection will not influ- ence us to train up our children in the nurture and admonition of the Lord, not all that can be done by rantizing children, will have any effect on parents. If by paying attention to the rising generation, is to teach them bigotry and hatred to other christians, none are more successful than the quakers, who ne- ver baptize old nor young; for they will not suffer their children to go to other places of worship, nor -are they chargeable with greater immoralities than what is common in the world. As far as the subject came under my notice, none are worse, in language or practice, than descendents of paedorantists. If frolicking, dancing and card-playing, are immorali- ties, these vices abound among pasdorantists as much as any other people in our land, if not ratker more. What I have said has effectually excluded all Peter Edwai'ds's mistaken consequences, which he vainly imagined arose out of the baptists* system. I will therefore dismiss this head, and consider the mode of baptism. p 106 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED, OF THE MODE OF BAPTISM. ON this subject I am soiTy to say, Peter Ed- wards has exceeded the bounds of truth and mo- desty, beyond any man, who has ever written on the subject before. He has, in a very arrogant and un- principled manner, abused and per\^erted the Greek language most pitifully, in order to baffle the honest inquirer, and establish an antichristian superstition, which is falling swiftly, notwithstanding all the at- tempts of its votaries to support it. I should not be mistaken, if his Candid Reasons should change the sentiments of learned gentlemen every where, when they observe the quibbling sophistry used on the sub- ject. I hope, if any should deem it necessary to write again on the subject, that the gentleman may not part with truth, modesty, and a good conscience to support the dying cause. Truth is great and will prevail. It is a grand reflection on the wisdom and good- ness of Christ, that in this holy ordinance, he should use a word so ambiguous and uncertain in its mean- ing, that should render it impossible for us to know what he meant, or what he would have us to do; but I hope to make appear, to all who wish to fol- low Christ in this ordinance, that the whole account is plain and easy to be understood; that no one can be at a loss to determine duty, except the mind is bewildered by craft, tradition, or superstition. " The CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 107 inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication." Revelations. Peter Edwards tells us, p. 128. " That all our, knowledge of the manner of baptizing must be col- lected from the word Baptize, the circumstances of baptism, and the allusions of scripture to that ordi- nance. These three I will endeavour to examine im- partially, confining myself to the scripture, and the word made use of in the institute." Very good: this looks like a fair set out. I shall follow you closely; but I will not solely confine myself to the scripture; neither has Peter Edwards, notwithstanding this pro- mise. We shall find him using heathen authors to help him out; and I will mention some christian au- thors full as good as heathens. Peter Edwards on this subject uses three terms^ washing, sprinkling, and affusion; by the last term he must mean pouring. This does not carry in the face of it simple honesty, nor does it look like the conduct of a man who has nothing more than truth in view. Had he an intention of investigating truth, he would have fixed on some one of these terms: he would have said, I maintain that baptism means washing, or sprinkling, or afiusion; then I would have proved that it did not properly mean the term on which he had fixed. Peter is a crafty disputant: he keeps three strings to his bow. A back door may be very useful on some occasions, to avoid the pur« suer. I now call on him to fix on either of these terms, and I pledge myself to prove that ^eiTrrt^ca, or 108 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. ^AfrriiTfXQg doth not mean it. However, as it is, let us see what he can do by sophistry; for he can do no- thing by fair argument. He considers the word |3*7rTw;* but he makes some apology for using it, as it is not used respecting the ordinance. No one ever said it was; but lexicographers have said that |3<»7r- T<^ dred and nine places in Matthew, wherein the word signifies intOy and must be so understood; and it was so understood by the translators, or why did they use it? It is granted Peter Edwards doth not say it doth not mean into, only. This would be too barefaced; but he says, it often means, toxvards, near, &c. Why did he not point out the passages, that we might examine them? No: he sneaks off, with his bare S2cy- so. Poor authority indeed! Doth this suit a man whose object is truth alone? We come now to airo-. I have observed that the preposition gv is used in Matthew eighty-four times, always signifying in; now if Christ was baptized in Jordan, octvq must have brought hmi out of it, or he remains there still. I did not think it necessary to read one of the evan- gelists through; but I have examined several places which mean out of; but in some of them, it is trans- lated y/'owz, which means out of; and it is a matter of indifference, which of the words are used; because fro7n means out of as is evident from Mark i. 9. Jesus came otTro, out of, Na^ci^sT rij? yuxlAonx?. If it is granted that Jesus lived in Nazareth, he certain- ly came out of it. Matthew, chap. iii. and xiii. uses the same phrcise; where also it must mean out of Can it be supposed that Mark, chap. i. and ix. uses etTTo for coming out of Galilee, and in the next verse c Tvj? a-vvayooyf^g) the synagoguc» Rev. vii. 14. These are they which came out of great (sx, T)jf B-Ai^iujg) ti-ibulation. I would refer the reader to Matt. xiii. 34, 35. Mark xiii. 15. Luke xix. 22. Acts xxviii. 3. 2 Cor. ii. 4. viii. 11. 2 Tim. ii. 26. James iii. 10. Time would fail me to mention all places where iK means out of. In all Peter Edwards's writings on this subject, CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 137 he shows himself to be an unfair disputant. In the first he has fixed on no sense, by which we might confine him; whentreatingof jS^tttw, ^ct7rTKTf/,oc^ or ioaTrl T«^w, three terms are used, wash, pour, sprinkle; but as we have no determination which of these we muy fix on, we may use which we please. Just so is his quibbling on the prepositions: iv means nigh, near, at^ by; ng often towards, near; cctto and ix very often signify yroOT. Now can any living creature fix an idea on words used in this manner? I know his object was to bewilder, blind, mislead, and baffle the reader, that in the end, he might embrace his super, stitious system. Our blessed Lord said, all that ever came before me are thieves and robbers; but the sheep did not hear them. John x. 8. Peter Edwards thinks to rob us of a gospel ordinance by his cun- ning; but as Christ's sheep did not hear the old thieves and robbers, neither will his sheep now be deceived by his quibbles to embrace the traditions of men. As Peter Edwards has not fixed on any term certainly to signify baptism, I will fix on the word pour; for this is a favourite term with him; and see whether he regarded truth when he drew his reference from his attempts on the prepositions, and said, " so that where it is read in our translations — in Jordan, into the water, out of the water, it will read as well, in the Greek, at Jordan, to the water, from the water. And what exceeds ail boundsof truth, he adds, " This is a truth beyond all disputes, and well known to 138 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. every one, who is at all conversant with the Greek.'* In Mark i. 9. that Jesus came from Nazareth oi Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. The Greek is, Koto!,7rr tc-uog is immersion only; and that being established, it cannot be doubted, that being buried with him in immersion, refers to the mode of baptism; and if this is the truth, then we' see that Peter Edwards's whimsical fancies all stand for nothing: and worse than nothing; the}^ are a shameful trifling with holy things. 144 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. What Peter Edwards says, respecting change of garments not being mentioned, is a ridiculous fan- cy, which would not be mentioned by any man of superior talents to himself; for all he says is built on the supposition that the people in Judea knew notwhat was necessary for their own convenience in obeying the Lord. John baptized at Bethabara; and, in Ro- binson's History of Baptism, it is made appear that Bethabara means the passage house, or as we call it a ferry house, where accommodations could be had, to prepare for the administration of baptism. Be- sides, in this warm country, very little clothing was necessaiy; and if we believe the writings of early ages, they baptized next to naked, and some of them say altogether naked; but others that they had gar- ments from their middle to the knees or thereabouts. Any thing said on this subject proves only the ig- norance of the person in ancient history. And of all people on this subject, such as are forever talking about circumcision should be silent, if they would only consider the nature of that operation, and that it must be done before witnesses. Let them figure to themselves the whole process, and lay their hands on their mouths. God's institutions are not to be trifled with. God commanded; and it was the duty of Jews and all proselytes to submit to it. Christ has instituted immersion, and submitted himself to it; that is enough, without using profane speeches about changing of clothes. Peter Edwards, in page 142, seems well pleased CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 145 with his own fancy about planting. I call it his own fancy, because I never met with any other person, who ever thought that passage favourable to rantism; but Peter is a surprising man, and must entertain us with something new. The words are, " For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resur- rection." Now can any living creature see what ad- vantage this text can be to a psedorantist? Peter says, page 142, " that whereas baptism is no where called a burial, it is in this place plainly called a planting." Planting is a phrase not often used in the New Testament, and in no place in reference to bap- tism, except it is so used here. Paul uses it for preaching the gospel, 1 Cor. iii. 6. " I have planted, Apollos watered." The gospel here is compared to a seed sown. This agrees to the parable of the sower, in Matt. xiii. 19. " Catcheth away that which was sown in the heart." The gospel was the seed Paul planted at Corinth, and Apollos watered it. "Here take notice that Paul compares the gospel to a seed sown; he planted. Who told Peter Edwards that in Rom. vi. 5. he used the word, not having any refer- ence to seeds? This he must have found in his own lexicon; for it is no where else. He says, " that as the apostle calls baptism a planting, he must allude to the mode in which that ordinance was adminis- tered: and every one, who is at all acquainted with the art of planting, will easily guess, what kind of mode that must be, to which it alludes." Well, I 146 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. am as well acquainted with planting, for sixty years, as the most of my neighbours, and I will tell you all about the art of planting. In the first place, prepare the ground well, then open it with a plough or a hoe; put the seed in the ground; then cover it well all over. This is the mode we plant Indian corn, pota- toes or peas. We never sprinkle earth on the seeds, but cover them well all over; and we raise very good crops this way. But perhaps Peter would tell me, the term don't refer to seeds, but to planting trees. Who told you this? It is at best a guess; for you cannot prove it. It is not very probable: if you read the parable of the sower, and 1 Cor. iii. 6. perhaps you will think otherwise. I am well acquainted with planting trees; and I am no ways afraid of Goliath on that head. The mode I plant trees is, first, I dig a hole; and after putting the roots of the tree in the hole, I carefully with a hoe draw the earth all over the roots a suitable depth; but I never sprinkle earth on the top; for when we plant trees, we never mean that we plant the top. Now, Peter, I have not guessed at the mode of planting seeds and trees; but I do not belie\'e the term refers to trees; but take it which way you wiU, it gives no assistance to Peter's cause; for every thing that is planted is covered all over. So in planting us in the likeness of Christ's death, we are covered all over in the water. Peter committed a blunder in using this text; for it is like all the rest: it will not support his cause. The phrase appears to me, to be metaphorical; and metaphors CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 147 will not agree in every point. The argument seems to me to be this; for if we have been, by baptism, planted together in the likeness of his death, and our old man vi^as buried with him; we should live ia newness of life, that is in the likeness of his resur* rection. Hence saith the apostle, " if ye be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above." Col. iii, 1. How careful should every baptized person be to live in newness of life. Dead indeed unto sm, but alive unto God, through our Lord Jesus Christ. Leaving the whimsical interpretation of Peter on his planting to himself; for I think no other per- son will receive it; I come to consider him on the baptism of the Holy Ghost. And here I must ac* knowledge, I do not know distinctly what he means,. It is a shameful thing to distort any man's meaning to suit our purpose. I think, if I do understand him, he means regeneration, and the extraordinary gifts of the Holy Spirit. And if this is his meaning, he is, in my opinion, very wrong: but he is not alone; because the subject has not been properly in- vestigated; and therefore it is only too common, to call regeneration the baptism of the Holy Ghost. My reasons, why we are not to understand, by bap- tism of the Holy Ghost, regeneration, is, first, the Holy Ghost was not come on the disciples before the day of pentecost; and we arc sore they were re- generated before; for Christ said, '" And ye are clean, but not all; for he knew who should betray him; therefore he said. Ye are not all clean.^- 17 14g CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. John xiii. 10, 11. None can, in a religious sense, be said to be clean, who are not washed with the wash- ing of regeneration; but the disciples were said to be clean; therefore they were regenerated before the day of pentecost. Regeneration is essential to salva- tion; but if the baptism of the Holy Ghost meant rege- neration, then all who died before that day of pente- cost, died unregenerated; consequently they all per- ished. Now can any living creature believe this? I think not; consequently the baptism of the Holy Ghost doth not mean regeneration, or even sanctification. There is but one passage that countenances the senti- ment: and that is not sufficient when no other passage establishes it; because no scripture is of private inter- pretation. 1 Cor. xii. 13. Here this passage maybe considered as putting the effect for the cause; and I think this, or something like it, is the meaning of the passage. There are two other passages similar to this, which we will consider. Rom. vi. 3. " Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Je- sus Christ," he. Here I think it will be scarcely disputed that by being baptized into Jesus Christ, is meant that in their baptism they, by that act, pub- licly professed themselves belonging to that body, of which Christ is the head. They put on a profession of Christ., The other passage is similar. Gal. iii. 27. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ, have put on Christ, that is, professed to be- long to Christ, in contradistinction to Jewism or Heathenism. The words 1 Cor, xii. 13. " Bv one CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 149 spirit they were fitted for baptism, and were baptized into that one body of which Christ is head." It ap- pears to me, that in this place, baptism is used in its literal sense for immersion in water, and cannot mean the baptism of the Holy Ghost, as I have made evi- dent that that did not mean regeneration, because the disciples were regenerated before the day of pente- cost, but were not baptized with the Holy Ghost till that time. 2. With respect to the second exception of the word, it is a general opinion that the baptism of the Holy Ghost meant the miraculous gifts of the Holy Spirit. This carries more appearance of truth than the other; and yet I do not think it is clear; because most of these gifts were conferred on the disciples before that day of pentecost, yet they were not baptized with the Holy Ghost. This appeai-s, Matt. x. 1. " And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness, and all manner of disease." Now what appeared, in respect to gifts, more than they possessed before, on the day of pen- tecost, except speaking with tongues? And was this the baptism of the Holy Ghost? It is certain none have it now, nor do we read of any before; but be- fore they began to speak with tongues, it is said, they were all Jilled with the Holy Ghost; which I take to be distinct from the immersion of the Holy Ghost, which has appeared to me, for many years past, to mean something external and nothing internal. J50 CANDID REASONS EXAxMlNED. Peter Edwards seems to dislike any quotation from a quaker; but I would as soon receive the truth Trom a quaker as from any other man. I will transcribe the opinion of Thomas Elwood, in his Sacred History, vol. 3. page 344, 345. He says on the passage, '* This was a thorough baptism. They were now baptized with the Holy Ghost indeed; and that in the spirit an^ ]proper sense of the word baptize, which signifies to dip, plunge or put under; for they were truly dipped, or plunged into the Holy Ghost. They were brought wholly under it, and into complete subjection to it, so that it was not only in them, but over, and did cover them throughout." This quaker is honest; and decides, without being interested in the dispute, that to baptize is to dip or plunge, or cover over; that they were covered externally with the Holy Ghost. It has been my opinion for some years, that the baptism of the Holy Ghost was external; and that in the fourth verse, '^ filled with the HolyGhost," was something superior and distinct from the baptism of the Holy Ghost. The statement in Acts ii. always struck me that it was something external that filled all the house. Peter Edwards has much abused the knowledge he has in Greek, by his ridiculous re- marks on ^;^of. The word is used but a few times in the New Testament. I have observed it in three |>laces; and in two of them it means properly sound, ytX.tr Edwards doth not know that that word was then used for reverberating noise. It is very shame- ful for 3By maj) to treat the holy scripture with such. CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 151 levity and vanity as he does. This sound had some- thing that made it, and that was the power of the Holy Ghost, (wfTTTg^) like as a rushing mighty rush- ing, and that is what filled all the house. The pronoun it is not in the Greek; and the words read as well, " and filled all the house." Now if the house was filled, and they were in the house, surrounded with the influence of the Holy Ghost, they were immersed in him; and this will appear to every serious mind, not- withstanding all the attempts of Peter Edwards, to render the scriptures ridiculous. The phrase upon seems to denote something external. Acts xi. 15. the Holy Ghost fell on them. The Greek preposition «7ri is here used, which properly signifies upouy but seldom, or never into; but I said, it was my opinion that the phrase, *' filled with the Holy Ghost, signified something distinct from the baptism of the Holy Ghost, My reasons are that that phrase was used be- fore the day of pentecost. Luke i. 41. " Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost." And in v. 67. " and his Father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied." Acts iv. 31. " And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness." I believe there is no instance, where it is said the same persons were said to be twice baptized with the Holy Ghost, and the conse* quence was, they spake the word of God, with bold- ness, and Zacharias prophesied. And to this day, when we are in a right condition to preach, we are filled with the Spirit. Eph. v. 18. vi. 18. Mr. 152 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. Booth bringing the electric fluid as an illustration is extremely suitable, nor has Peter Edwards made it to appear otherwise. I must not dismiss this subject, without some re- marks on Peter Edwards's attempt to mislead, deceive and impose upon the unlearned reader, by reading every passage referring to the baptism in an unwar- ranted manner, page 153, 154. In page 136, that ev means not only m, but nigh, near, at, by. In page^ 136, it suited him, in order to quibble about the place in which baptism was performed, to say, that «v meant not only m, but nigh, near, at, by. He knows very well, that the same preposition (ev) is used in every place where the baptism of the Holy Ghost is mentioned. Matt. iii. 11. gv 7Tvivy,(x,ri dyiu. Seven more places are selected; and in all these the preposi- tion €v is used; but in none of them does it mean properly zvith; the preposition cw in Greek, is used for with, and not gv. It is true the translators, to favour the common practice, have rendered it so; but this is not the primary meaning, which is plain to all who are acquainted with Greek. Quibblers ought to have good memories. Inpage 136, in order to evade the evidence in favour of immersion, in the instance of the place where they baptized, (sv tw la^Scivvi) in Jordan. Here gv means not only in, but nigh, near, at, by. Peter must not think to pass with impunity, when he makes a nose of wax of the preposition €v, and when it suits him to baffle the truth, it must sig- nify -with. Stop, Peter, scripture is not to be twisted as CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 153 it suits you. That you may feel remorse and shame, we will try how the scripture will read corrected ac- cording to your mind; and in order to do this, we will consider each passage. I will first give my trans- lation; and I am not afraid but every Greek scholar will acknowledge that the Greek will bear my trans- lation. Matt. iii. 11. I indeed immerse you m water, same v. He shall immerse you in the Holy Ghost. Peter's correction: I indeed baptize you, nigh, near, at, by water. Perhaps he used no water in baptism; for Robinson says the Irish used milk formerly. Mark i. 8. I indeed have immersed you in water; but he shall Immerse you in the Holy Ghost. Peter's correction: I baptize you, nigh, near, at, by water; but he shall baptize you, nigh, near, at, by the Holy Ghost. Now had he graciously condescended to tell us what /3»7r- T<^« meant, we could translate the scripture nearer to his new correction. But here he dare not fix; he therefore says, it signifies to wash, pour, or sprinkle. Another nose of wax; it may be twisted to any shape. We will try it this way, I indeed wash, pour, sprinkle you, nigh, near, at, by water. He shall wash, pour, vsprinkle you, nigh, near, at, by the Holy Ghost. For berevity's sake, I will omit my translation, which is correct in every place; and only give Peter Edwards's. Luke. iii. 16. I irxdeed, wash, pour, sprinkle you, nigh, near, at, by water. Same verse. He shall wash, pour, sprinkle you, nigh, near, at, by, the Holy Ghost. The remaining part of the eight passages may be read the same wav; thev are therefore omitted. The reader 154 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. may apply Peter's new mode of reading the scrip, tures, and see how much the world is indebted to him for a new method of translation. Peter goes on, in page 134, to make his improvement of the eight passages above mentioned. He now says, as if he had acted honestly, ** the question is, to what mode of baptism will the pre- position with, which is used in these eight places, agree? Stop, Peter, you are a little too fast: the pre- position with is not used in any of the eight places. The preposition gv is used in every place; which, you say, besides m, means nigh^ near^ at, by. The, Greek preposition, which properly means with, is tf-uv; which is not used in any one of these places. By taking the paragraph, the question is to what mode of pouring wull the preposition ev, i, e. in, which is used in these eight places, agree? Peter has followed our present translation, where with is used to accom- modate the translation to the superstitious practice of England, at that time; but in the Greek it is not with, but 171. And I have made it evident that ev is used to mean m one hundred and eighty -four times in the evangelist Matthew; yet Peter Edwards has the superlative modesty to impose on the unlearned by perverting the Greek, by trying to deceive them by the preposition with, which is not there to be found in the Greek. What a miserable cause must that be, which tempts men to use such mean shifts! The judicious reader will easily see how to answer the remaining part of this page. I proceed to consider CANDID REASONS KXAMINED. 155 page 155. where he says, '' there is one subterfuge, which I must guard against, that the baptists may^ be left entirely defenceless. They coritend, that the Greek preposition sv is used in most of these passages, and should have been translated in cr ■hito.'''' Here are two little mistakes in this representation of the bap- tists' sentiments. Stop, Peter, I will put you right. The baptists say in all ihese places the Greek prepo- sition iv is used, and should have been translated in; but the baptists understand Greek too well to say ev should be translated into; for when into is intended, the Greeks use ng. Those observations convict Peter of two broad falsehoods; for the baptists do not sa}^ in most of these passages, the preposition iv is used; but thev say in all it is used; and should have been translated in, and not into. Peter is going to leave the baptists entirely defenceless, and I suppose ruin their cause foreA^er, Peter says, he has two small ob- jections, (i. e.) to the way the baptists understand iv in the passages above mentioned. Well let us hear them: " It would make the passages ridiculous; and be repugnant to the word of God." These are high charges: let us see how he will prove them. 1. Ridi- culous. Matt. iii. 11. I baptize you ev vSccri in or into water. — Stop, I must put you right; the baptists never say ev means i?ito, but in. Go on. — But he shall baptize sv 7rvgu^«.T< in or into the Ploiy Ghost. Now as Peter has corrected all that ever went before him, w^e will read the words accordirjp- to Peter's new o m.ode of reading, viz. I wash, pour, sprinkle you^ T 156 CANDID ilL:ASONS EXAMINED. nigh, near, at, by, water; but he shall vrash, pour, sprinkle you, nigh, near, at, by tlie Holy Ghost. Now, honest reader, which of these wa}s of reading looks most ridiculous? I'he baptists' w^ay of read- ing is, ''I immerse 3'ou in ^vater; but he shall im- merse you in the Holy Ghost." \A^hen I used the words nigh, n«ar, at, by, I do not mean the reader should use the four words; but he ma}' select which he pleases, and abide by it. Neither do I mean thai he should use, wash, pour, sprinkle, only any one, and abide by that word, and not fly about from one term to another, as may suit his turn best. What argument has he used to sho'w that the way in which the baptists understood the Greek preposition ev is wrong? A very short argument: he says ridiculous enough! Is this all the argument that this unparalleled Grecian, this superlative logician, could brinsr? I think this is ridiculous enous:h. Let us hear him on the second objection, which is, that our way of understanding the preposition, " is re- pugnant to the word of God." I should think this to be a very weighty objection; but Peter perhaps is so used to give expositions evidently repugnant to the word of God, that it is but a small thing with him. However it will do him no harm to remember, that it is said, for every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the da}- of judgment. But w^hat makes our sense of ev so re- pugnant? Why, because the scripture says, when ipeaking of the Holy Ghost, he fell on them. Then CANDID REASOinS EXAMINED.. 157 we should read the scripture according to this new mode, — viz. baptize you on water; but you shall be baptized on the Holy Ghost. Ridiculous enough! To close this subject, and speak a little more serious: I think nothing should be said to be ridicu- lous, or repugnant to the word of God, when it is explicitly contained in the holy scriptures. I am son-}' that Peter Edwards pays so little regard to the holy scriptures, and uses so much sophistry to be- wilder the lambs of Christ, and make the hearts of those sad, which the Lord would not have made sad. U Peter Edwards w^ouid read the following texts, in which the very phrase is used, perhaps he would not ever be so ready hereafter to pronounce the idea ridiculous. John iv. 24. "God is a Spirit, and they that worsliip him, must worship him (sv 7rvsu^uaT<) in spirit and in truth." Rom. xiv. 17. "The king- dom of God is not meat and drink; but ris;hteous- ness and peace, and joy ('gv nvauwair; dytu) in the Holy Ghost." Rev. i. 10. " I was in the Spirit, (ev rvivf^ioiri) on the Lord's day. Chap. iv. 2. And imme- diately, I was (sv 7rv2up«Ti) in the Spirit." Let this suf- fice to make it evident that "in the Spirit" is a scrip- tural phrase; nor is there any thing unscriptural, nor ridiculous, in saying the disciples were immersed in the Spirit on the day of pentecost. Peter Edwards has only one sentence mere on the mode of baptism; and it would have been much better for hini that he had never written it; for he closes his subject with a falsehood. I will transcribe 153 (-^ -'^ N DID R i: ASO .\ S EX A M i N KD . the passage, and then show the falsehood, viz. " To remove that which is ridiculous, and repugnant, tlicre is one desperate shift for a fahing system — what is that? It is this: iv joined to water, must be ??i or mfo; iv joined to Spirit must be with. Desperate shift indeed! This is a wretched prop for a ruined system. Only such can need it."* Peter Edwards represents the baptists in England, to be a set of ignorant people, scarcely knowing any thing. Indeed they seem as pliant as wax; they can be t\^'isted any wa}-, which suits Peter's wishes. After all, I question v.hether he can produce a baptist au- thor in England, who ever said, ev joined to water, must be 7?ito. No, the baptists say it must be ren- dered /;/, in itself, not i/ito: they know the preposi- tion £)T£uw governs a dative, it means to be a disciple to, or follower of another's doctrine. It oc- curs in Matt, xxvii. 57. He says, Plutarch has used it in the same sense. He adds, when it governs an accusative, it means to make a disciple: in this 166 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED- sense he says it occurs in Matt, xxviii. 19. and Acts xiv. 21. The first is the very passage in dispute. The second, Acts xiv. 21. I will transcribe, " And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and taught many." The word translated taught, is in Greek |U.oi9-j;Teu(r5tvTgf. And they, who were taught, are in the next verse called disciples. " Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith." This passage is in point, and cannot be made plainer by comment. That is, disci- ples meant them only who were taught. In Matt. xxvii. 57. it is said of Joseph, who also himself was Jesus's disciple. The Greek SjwaS-jjTgyo-g is here trans- lated as a noun substantive, which cannot be easily translated into English; but it is easy to see that Jo- seph was so taught by Jesus as to become his fol- lower. 2. I am to produce examples in scripture where the word is used to signify to teach. In Matt. V. 1. it is said, " And when he was set, his disci- ples came unto him, v. 2. and he opened his mouth and taught them." Here it is very plain, that those who are called disciples were capable of being taught, or instructed. " He opened his mouth and taught them." This passage cannot be applied to little in- fants. In Matt. X. 1. it is said, " And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness," &c. In this passage no dispute can arise about the meaning of the word Disciple. It meant them who had been taught by CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 167 Christ and became his followers; as in the 24th verse, " The disciple is not above his master." Matt. xi. 2. It is said, " John sent two of his disciples." Who were his disciples? They that were taught by him. And in John iv. 1, 2. we hare a text in point. " When therefore the Lord knew, how the pharisees had heard, that Jesus made imd baptized more disciples than John." Two things are unanswerably clear from this passage, viz. That Jesus made disciples before they were baptized; and this corresponded with the commission, " Go teach all nations;" and then the order was to baptize^ None in the apostles' days ever heard of the prepos- terous nonsense of making disciples by baptism. 2. That in Christ's time the disciples were qualified to baptize. Apply this to infants, and nothing can be more absurd. See Acts vi. 1. and xiv. 22. I now challenge any one to produce one passage in the New- Testament, where the word Disciple is used, where the person was not previously taught. It is an out- rage on common sense for any to affirm that a child can be made a disciple, not directly, but indirectly, as Peter Edwards has said;* for the nature of in- struction admits of no substitute, no more than we can admit another to eat as a substitute for us. It is certain that christians in the first ages of Christianity never heard of the doctrine of making disciples indi- rectly, I will give a few instances. I have carefully ' randid Reasons, page 60. 168 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. examined ecclesiastical history on this subject; and I find the primitive christians, for several centuries, had schools, in which candidates for baptism were care- fully instructed in the principles of the christian re- ligion, before their baptism. The candidates were called catechumens. These are often mentioned in Mosheim's ecclesiastical historj-. I will select a few instances, out of many, of persons being catechu- mens, who were the children, not only of christians, but even children of bishops. The father of Gregory Nazianzen, was a bishop of a church of Nazianzum, a little city in Cappadocia, anno 325. His father gave him an excellent education at Athens and An- tioch. While he was at Athens, he w'as a catechu- men, and after his return was baptized, being near thirty years old.* He became afterwards archbishop of Constantinople. His successor, Nectarius, was a catechumen, and not of the best character, and was absolutely elected bishop, before he was baptized.f John Clirysostom, who is deemed one of the greatest among the fathers, was born of christian parents: he was well educated, and after being some time a ca- techumen, was baptized, being twenty -eight years of age.f So says Montfaucon. Joannes xxviii. annos natus haptizatus fuit . The same author says, natus autem esse putatur a?ino 347. We have the time of his birth, and the time of his baptism. The great * Robinson's History of Baptism, page 68. f Robinson's History of Baptism, page 69. i Robinson's History of Baptism, page 69, CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 159 John Chrysostom had never heard that any one could be made a disciple indirectly by baptism; he there- fore was carefully instructed tliree years by Meletius, bishop of Antioch, previous to his baptism. I might produce many more instances to prove that people descending from christian parents were catechumens for years previous to baptism; but I shall only add one, who was of note among the ancients. That is the great Basil. He was born about 329. descend- ed from opulent families, who were zealous chris- tians for several generations previous to his birth. Some of them had suffered martyrdom. Basil re- ceived a liberal education, and was carefully in- structed in the principles of Christianity, by Dianius, bishop of Caesarea, and baptized in the 28th year of his age, by Dianius.* I would have given all the authors quoted by Mr. Robinson; but this would have enlarged my pamphlet to an improper size. Some gentlemen may say, they have never seen the History. This may be the case; but among others, Dr. Staughton, pastor of the first baptist church in Philadelphia, has one copy; and I am persuaded, he will not refuse the reading of it to any gentleman. The reader will pardon this digression, as it was produced only, to prove that the ancients knew no- thing of making disciples indirectly. No, they had their catechumens instructed many years before their baptism. Even the emperor Constantine was a ca- * Robinson's History of Bapti sm, page 70, 170 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. techumen many years before his baptism, which was administered near his death.* I shall now return to the subject, which I was considering, which was to demonstrate that the an- jcient fathers used the word jWotS-jjrguw in its various terminations, to signify teaching. Origen uses the word to signify to teach in several places, f The txposition of Faith, attributed' to Justin, J uses the word in the same sense. I find the same word used by Eusebius; and what is called the apostolical con- stitutions, though not written by the apostles, yet they are allowed to be of considerable antiquity, as well as Epiphanius, all use the word to signify to teach. I have all the quotations in full before me, which I would have transcribed, only it would have rendered my pamphlet too voluminovis. The Latin fathers use the word docete, that is to teach previous to baptism. So Tertullian uses it.§ Many more might be produced; but I will close this subject by saying, all writings of the ancients, that I have met with, are unanimous in their sentiments, that the word in dispute means to teach; and I am of opinion that no man can show us where it is used, when infants are spoken of. Should any reader wish a fuller investigation of the subject, let him read Dr. Gale's reflections on * Mosheim, 1 vol. Ecclesiastical History, 314. I Comment on Matthew, page 225, and contra Celsum. lib. 2, p. 84. -i^ Expos. Fidej, pag;e 579. f Tertiill. prsr scrip, hceretic cap. 8. and cap. 20. CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 171 Dr. Wall's History of Infant Baptism, especially his eighth chapter, in which this point is put beyond any reasonable objection. Dr. Gale has considered the writings of all the fathers, both Greek and Latin, and has put it be- yond dispute, that the word juot^»jT?u(rotTg used in the commission, means teach; not as Peter says indi- rectly/, but directly; and is only used and applied to persons capable of being taught. I do not believe the word w^as ever used, but it meant or implied teaching. Since I began to write this pamphlet, I have taken particular notice of its use in scripture; and in every passage, it is self evident, it means teaching. Christ's disciples were they that were taught by him, so as to become his followers. John's disciples were his followers. In this sense it has been used in all languages, where the scriptures have been translated. Men must be in great difficulties before they would use such poor shifts to support their sentiments. I have been surprised to see pres- byterians of undoubted piety, learning and talents, labour hard to support a cause, which cannot be supported by divine revelation, nor common sense. It may be that my publication will give offence to some of my presbyterian brethren, who share largely in my esteem. I cannot help it; for my ta- lent is to preach or write pointedly. No man can strike fire with a feather. Great plamness of speech should be used on this subject, if possible, to open the eyes of our brethren. If some severity of laii- z u 172 CANDID REASOJ^rS EXAMINED. guage has been used against Peter Edwards, he may thank himself for it; for he has not written either be- coming a christian or a gentleman; therefore it was almost impossible to avoid some severity, which should not have been used against a man of piety and decency; neither of which appears in his writings. I know there are men of learning and piety, who are not of my sentiments. Should my pamphlet have the good effect on them, to induce them candidly to lexamine the subject, I doubt not but some prose- lyte> may be made in America, as well as lately in Scotland, where men begin to think for themselves. Truth is great, and will finally prevail. Should we ask men of what use is it to sprinkle or dip chil- dren? Their answers seldom agree. Some say they are made members of the church. This carries some- thing pleasing to weak minds; but the worst of all is, they who use it do not believe it. If they do, why do they not administer the Lord's supper to them? Every person, acquainted with ecclesiastical history, knows that when children began at first to be bap- tized, the supper was administered to them; and to support their practice, they brought John vi. 53. The text says, " Verily, verily, I say unto you, ex- cept ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and di'ink his blood, ye have no life in you." These holy fathers taught that baptism and the Lord's supper were both essential to salvation. What an age this was! If the blind lead the blind, they will both fall into the ditch. ■H-i CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 173 Seeing that infant baptism and infant communion came into practice about the same time, why is one dropped and the other continued? Or can we sup- pose that neither faith nor repentance is necessary for one, but it is for the other? The Baptists believe that one ordinance of Christ is as holy as the other, and requires the same qualifications. In this they have the unanimous voice of the holy scriptures, rea- son, and the nature of things. I shall close this pamphlet by giving my objec- tions against infant rantism, or infant baptism; for one is no better than the other. Both are without scripture, and attended with very pernicious conse- quences. I have many objections against infants' church membership, but shall only mention a few. 1. It lays a foundation for what is foolishly and falsely called national churches, which is a mere chi- mera, fabricated by avaricious, proud, t3Tannical clergymen, to aggrandize themselves, and enable them to live in idleness, pomp and vanity. Some of these religious, spiritual merchants, receive twenty thousand pounds per annum, in England, v/hen at the same time, their poor slaves have scarcely bread sufficient to support nature. All this is accomplished by psedorantism; but it was no better when they used psedobaptism, which was the practice before the reformation. They use often the word church, and our church, to amuse the people; but never let the people know the meaning of the word. In the New Testament it means such as are called to be saints. ^.^ 174 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. or the whole number, who have been, are, or shall be called, and shall be saved through the atoning blood of the great Head of the church. In a few in- stances, it is used for a voluntary assembly, without any reference to religion. Acts xixi 40, 41. Ecclesiastical establishments have been one of the greatest curses attending Christianity from the fourth century to this day. It is well known what mischief it has done in America, and some of the baleful dregs remain in New England to this day. Ecclesiastical establishments have laid a foundation for persecution and bloodshed, wherever they have prevailed; therefore it is said, " In her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of ail that were slain upon the earth." Rev. xviii. 24. Where is this blood found? I answer in ecclesiastical establish- ments, and no where else. This is the main support of antichrist; and must not that be a great evil, which supports antichrist? And infant membership is that evil thing that supports antichrist. In vain are prayers made for the downfal of antichrist, while in- fant sprinkling is in practice. I have made it so evi* dent that this practice supports worldly ecclesiastical establishments, that none will be so bold as to deny it; but they will say, we have none in America. Thank God, it is the case, that we have none, only the dregs in New England, where priestcraft pre- vails to the great injury of the United States, which is only too evident in the present day. Nevertheless it operates in a different manner, so as to promote CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 175 the craft. It is certain, that the minds of common people are impressed with the notion, that somehow or another it is of great use, hence nothing can be more offensive than to say any tking against it. This superstition has a powerful effect on the mind of common people. Men reason in tVus way: God knows I have not much religion myselfj but I must not leave my children to the uncovenanted mtrcy of God: they must be baptized. What follows now? We must have a minister to administer it. What fol- lows then? The minister must have a salarj^ I am a friend to supporting a gospel preacher in a comfort- able state; but I am not a friend to making the gos- pel a trade to live in pomp and vanity. The minister must have four hundred or five hundred dollars ^ year; but the people give it freely, if they are able, because this good man puts their children in a much better state than they were left in by the first Adam. This is an error which cannot be supported by scrip- ture, and is attended with a bad consequence, which brings me to give my 2d reason or objection against infant membership: which is this, viz. It prevents the salvation of the subject as far as it is in the pow- er of man. Yes, instead of promoting, it impedes the salvation of the subject. If the child should grow up to years of understanding, it must believe that it w^as made a christian in infancy; how then can the person be convinced of his lost state? He cannot, till the Holy Ghost first overtlirows all his notions about any good done by pasdorantism. Grace # 176 CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. often prevails over superstition; but when it pre- vails, there is often a gredt noise about renouncing their baptism, as if it vas next to the sin against the Holy Ghost. And this frequently impedes and em- barrasses sincere souls; and it is very probable, some are even prevented giving obedience to an holy ordinance of Jesus Christ. How often have I been surprised by hearing ministers preach to their hear- ers the necessity of regeneration and a work of grace, when at the same time, they had some years before made little christians of them! What has become of all the good done by baptism? It is ail gone. They talk now like a baptist, and tell them plainly, they must be born again. Is it possible for them to reconcile this preposterous jargon? Why do they not learn to preach consistently? It is attended with profaneness and presumptuous addresses to the God of heaven, in which I have heard them pray to God to ratify in heaven what they had done on earth. And what was done on earth? Nothing but a child sprinkled without any authority from God. If they have any authority, why do they not show it, and not amuse mankind with analogy and inference? It is well that God is a God of pa- tience, who can bear with the infirmities and follies of mankmd. Nay, I have heard them go so far, as to pray to God to sanctify such a portion of the water as might be used on that occasion. I have always heard of papists making holy water; but it seems protestants can do it where it suits them. -H CANDID REASONS EXAMINED. 177 My last and gi*eat objection is that this practice has a direct tendency to give a legal cast of mmd to all, who are concerned with it. It has a most un- happy influence to preach a crippled gospel attended with conditions. And often another phrase is used, viz. to comply with the terms of the gospel, and these are faith, repentance, and sincere obedience, changing the gospel into a new law. We expect no- thing better from professed Arminians; but to hear this from others, whose confession of faith is the re- verse, is deplorable. But this is the natural fruit of the system. On this subject, the baptists have no embarrasments: they consider all men in the state in which they were left by the first Adam, without God, and without Christ, till they are renewed by the Holy Ghost; and when they profess their faith, they baptize them; but not with any view to save them, nor put them in a better state than that in which the first Adam left them. Grace translates into the kingdom of Christ; and their obedience flows from faith that worketh by love. That the time may come, when there shall be only one faith, one Lord, and one baptism, is the fervent desire and sin- cere wish of an aged servant of the church of Christ, THE AUTHORe m- -'# REVIEW OF MR. JOHN P. CAMPBELL'S SERMON, SAID TO HAVE BEEN PREACHED AT STONERMOtjTH MEETINGHOUSE, OCTOBER 28, 1810, ' CONTAINING His Opinion on the Subjects and Mode of Baptism, ^c. ^'c. In a letter submitted for tliat gentleman's consideration, BY DAVID JONES, Pastor of the Baptist Church, at the Great Valle}', Chester County, Pennsylvania. The leaders of the people cause them to err, and they that are led af them aj-e destroyed. Isatah. f'H/■.rsJSJ^r^J^^.y^«^f^> 9\»^rv PHILADELPHIA: Printed for the Author by Dennis Hearl ■ i8!l. PREFACE. I KNOW neitlier the person nor character of Mr. Campbell. A gentleman from Kentucky put his sermon into tlie hand of a friend of mine, who requested me to make some stric- tures on it. and fix it as an appendix to my pamphlet against Peter Edwards. For the most part, Mr. Campbell's arguments are therein considered. Sliould the gentleman think proper to make a further display of his polemical knowledge, I wish he would be concise and very explicit; for I am now very aged and wish to be employed on more im- portant subjects than controversies about the externals of religion. Wishing the reader grace and wisdom from God to understand and do his will, I subscribe my name, DAVID JOKES. TO Mr. JOHN P. CAMPBELL. Sir, IN your preface, you exculpate a certain wor- thy gentleman, I suppose in Kentucky, from giving any assistance in composing your sermon; but you might have saved yourself from the remark; for no gentleman w^ell acquainted with antiquity, would be concerned in such a publication, so contrary to the sentiments of learned men, and truth itself. I am sorry, sir, you wrote on a subject, with which you seem so little acquainted. I suppose you have been led astray, by authors, who were not fully informed on the subject. Had you read Dr. John Gill on the subject, in his dissertation concerning the baptism of Jewish proselytes,* I am persuaded, your sermon would never have appeared. I believe, sir, it is ge- nerally acknowledged, that no man in Europe was better acquainted vvith rabbinical writings, and all the customs of the Jews, than Dr. Gill; and he has un- answerably proved, that no such custom was ever known among the Jews, before John's time, nor af- terwards, for many centuries. The earliest writings of the Jews is the Misnah, which was written about This pamphlet was published in London, anno ir71. one hundred and fifty years after the destruction of the temple; but there is not one word of proselyte baptism in it. The Jews have two Talmuds, viz. the Jerusalem and Babylonian, in which there is mention made of immersions; but it was on account of cere- monial uncleanness. When were these Talmuds writ- ten? Some Jews say, that the Jerusalem Talmud was written near one hundred years after the Misnah. It is supposed the Babylonian Talmud was finished about A. D. 500. Any thing said in these wi'itings is of too late a date to prove what was the custom in John's time. We must determine this point by what is said in the holy scriptures, that neither our faith or practice should stand in the traditions of men. '-'' Before I proceed, it is proper to correct a small mistake which you have made, in a note at the bot- tom of page 6. You take for granted that disciple and proselyte are synonymous terms. This, sir, is not true; for proselyte means a person who em- braces the Jewish system; but it is never applied to one who professed Christianity, whether Jew or Greek. Therefore, to render |Woti>>jT«u(r«.T£ to prose- lyte, is an unwarranted translation, which none can approve of, who are acquainted with the Greek lan- guage. The phrase is not often used in the New Testament. We read of, Acts vi. 5. Nicholas, a prose- lyte of Antioch, who was not a native Jew, but a proselyte to that religion, previous to his embracing Christianity. For after that all were called, not pro- selytes, but disciples, till the appellation was changed at Antioch. Your motive in using the phrase was, I presume, to aid a dying cause; but if it cannot be supported without having recourse to such mea- sures, it ought to die a natural death. If you wish to see the Greek verb, //aS-jjTsuo-otTg explained, I would refer you to my pamphlet on the subject, in my refutation of Peter Edwards's Candid Reasons, where the subject is fully and fairly discussed. I would add also, that in that pamphlet, you will find your arguments answered, except your singular no- tions about John and his baptism. To this subject I must call your attention a few moments. In page 7, " You say John was really nothing else but a Jewish prophet." Pray, sir, who told you so? I am of opinion no man before you, ever presumed to say so. That he was a Jew by nation, none disputes; but that was not the reason why he baptized. Be- sides, sir, I put you to your defiance to prove that any Jewish prophet ever baptized any person. There were many washings and immersions used among the Jews in their purifications;* but the persons were the agents themselves, and not another. The case is quite different with John; he is the administrator of this ordinance; and other persons are the subjects. In Matt. iii. 5, 6. we are informed, that the inhabi- tants of Jerusalem and the region round about Jor- dan, went out to John, and were baptized of him in Jordan. John was the baptizer. And did he do it * It is not my design to include the consecration of priests. 8 of his own accord? The scripture says otherwise, " There was a man sent from God." John i. 6. What was he sent to do? He answers the question himself. " He was sent to baptize in water." See 33d verse. I render the phrase sv v^octi in water as a just translation, because that preposition must mean in, when it is used to point out a place, i?i -which a transaction has taken place. It was rendered with to favour psedorantism. The evangelist is explicit on the subject, and plainly proves that the legal dispensation ended, when John was sent to preach and baptize. In what other point of view can we understand the Son of God, when he said, " the law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." Luke xvi. 16. See also Mark i. 1. By the kingdom of God in this place is meant the gospel dispensa- tion, and even the gospel itself. If these sentiments are correct, then the gospel dispensation began, when John was sent to baptize; and then the legal dispen- sation ended. For my part, I can see no other mean- ing in the words of our Lord, and master, when he said, " The law and the prophets were until John." Be so good, sir, as to take notice of that phrase, " until John," then a crisis came, in which the dispen- sation was changed. Observe what follows, " Since that time the kingdom of God is preached;" by which we must understand the gospel dispensation; for the legal dispensation is never caUed the king- dom of God; nor have I met with any author who has presumed to embrace your system. My deal' sir, I pity you in my very heart; for you appear to have drunk too freely of the wine of the whore of Babylon, which is of such an intoxi- cating nature as to derange the mind, and introduce strange imaginations. Rev. xvii. 2. I hope, sir, in cool reflections, you will correct your mistakes, and condemn that unhappy sentence, which thought- lessly dropped from your pen, in page 8, where you said, when speaking of John baptizing, " It appears to have been nothmg more, than every Jewish pro- phet was expected to perform." Pray, sir, who ever expected a Jewish prophet to baptize? Surely no Jew: they deny the sentiment — nor any christian; for scripture is silent on the subject. Must I tell you again that all the washings among the Jews were performed by themselves,* and not by another; but John was the administrator of this institution and not the subject. Your knowledge of antiquity will fail you on this subject. Your authors were second- handed, and not equal to the task. Every text which you touch fails you, and staring you in the face, f-onvicts you of attempting to wrest the scripture, to support an antichristian superstition, which must fall sooner or later. Your gloss on the question of the priests and Levites sent to John, is an imagination of your own, * Except the consecration of priests. 2b 10 und foreign from the truth. " And they asked him, and said unto him, why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, nor that prophet?" It is asserted by good authority, that the Jews ex- pected that when the Messiah should appear, or Ehas, or that prophet, by \vhich is meant that prophet mentioned, Deut. xviii. 18. which was the Messiah himself; that then a change Avould take place, and baptism would be admmistered. When John said he was neither of these persons, they asked him why he baptized. If John had ever heard of proselyte bap- tism, he could have easily said, I do no more than other prophets do. You know all the prophets bap- tized; but nt:ither John, nor thiC priests, nor Levites, had ever heard of this tradition. It was not born at that time; and it never can be made appear that it was. John was authorized from heaven to baptize: which is plain from Matt. xxi. 25. " The baptism of John, whence was it? From heaven, or of men?" Had the chief priests and elders been as wise as Mr. Campbell, they could easily, and with safety, have answered this question, and said boldly of men; but this they neither did, nor dared say, for fear of the resentment of the people; for the people believed he was authorized from heaven to baptize. Neither the chief priests nor elders had ever heard of the tradi- tion of prosel3'te baptism. I'hey were silent there- fore on the subject, which could not have been the case if proselyte baptism had been then practised. 11 Should the people of Kentucky wish to see the sub- ject unanswerably handled, they had better reprint Dr. John Gill on the subject. No man will have the hardihood to say that there is any liint of such a cus- tom in the Old Testament. It is a dangerous thing to endeavour to pervert the scriptures, in order to tempt men to embrace human traditions. This is one of the greatest evils which prevails among the psedorantists. They are at their wits' end to know what to do. The scriptures will not support their cause; for after they are fairly beat out of all their strong holds, yet through interest, or the prejudice of education, they will not give up their mistakes. Your bold assertions, respecting the baptism of Christ, are such as demonstrate your irreverence of the Son of God. Do you think, sir, there is another man hi the United Suites w^ould dare to say, '' Even the baptism of Christ, upon which the baptists build so much, was nothing more than a formal compliance with an important regulation of the Jewish ritual.'* page 10. This is your own, and is worthy of you; for I hope no man will adopt such an unsuitable sen- timent. Pray, sir, on Avhat passage of scripture is this sentiment founded? I would be glad to know; for I have been near fifty years in the ministry, and have carefully examined the holy scriptures in that time; but I have not met with any passage, that would countenance such a shocking assertion. Nothing, sir, but your ignorance can prevent your blushing on this occasion. It was some time before I could 12 fix on any passage of scripture to which you re- ferred. At last, with the help of your popish plirases, inauguration and install I concluded you referred to the consecration of Aaron and his sons to the priesthood. Exod. xxix. 4. viz. " And Aaron and his sons shalt thou bring unto the door of the taber- nacle of the congregation, and shall wash them with water." Can you suppose, sir, that Christ was bap- tized in order to comply with the order observed by Aaron and his son, in being set apart to the priest- hood? Surely, sir, if this is the case, that true say- ing is applicable to you, " If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch." You will please to ob- serve, sir, this rite was never performed, but in con- secrating the priests to the priesthood; and never repeated; for afterwards they only washed their hands and feet, when they went into the sanctuary. Exod. XXX. 19. How could Clirist be a priest, when he was a descendent of Judah, according to the flesh? Did you wish him killed? for by the law of Moses that was to take place in case of any other tribe as- suming the priesthood. Your logic runs thus: Moses washed Aaron, when he consecrated him to the priesthood; John baptized Christ without any authority to consecrate him for the work of the ministry. The passage re- ferred to, cannot be applied to any but to the priest- hood. And to appl}^ it to any other, is not to explain scripture, but to pervert it. I grant that Christ was and is a priest forever; but John did not consecrate 13 him one. God consecrated him and made him a priest forever after the order of Melchisedec. Psalms ex. 4. Heb. vii. 17. Young men ought to be not so positive as you have been, when you asserted, ^^ To fulfil all righteousness can refer to nothhig else, than obedience to the ordinances of the Mosaic law." page 10. But, sir, baptism was no part of the Mosaic law. If such a thing was then existing, it was but the invention of men, a mere human tradi- tion. And will you, dare you, call a compliance witli the traditions of men, fuUfiling all righteousness? Sir, I am ashamed of such daring and crude productions. 1 am heartily willing that you should support psedo- rantism, if you can; but I am sorry your mistakes force you to make use of such improper means. The Son of God plainly asserted, by implication, that the baptism of John was from heaven; but you endea- vour to convict him of a mistake, and represent him complying with a ceremony, which w^as only appli- cable to the Aaronic priesthood. If you can find no better method than this to support your cause, your church must be composed of old wives and babies; for men of sense and candor Avill forsake you. It is my opinion, that Christ's disciples baptized, and John also, before the resurrection of Christ, without using the name of the trinity; and what of that? Was there any difference in the mode of the ordinance? No, by no means: all the difference was, the name of the trinity was superadded. This did not alter the commission in the least. The disciples 14 baptized before the resurrection, by divine authority: they baptized after the resurrection by the same au- thority, without limitation. " Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them," &c. I care not whether the verb is rendered teach, or make disci- ples, since none can be made disciples only by teach- ing. For a full investigation of this subject, I would refer you to my pamphlet. Why do you call John's baptism that of repentance? Did not the apostles re- quire faith and repentance after the resurrection, as qualifications for baptism? Acts ii. 38. One was to repent and believe on him that was to come; the Other to repent and believe on him that was come. Your remarks on the baptism of Christ, to say no worse, are impertinent and very unbecoming any man in the character of a teacher. Had not the head of the church a right to leave an example for his disciples in after ages? Was he not possessed of every qualification, and being holy, harmless, and undefiled with human depravity, had no need of re- pentance? Because repentance was required of every natural descendent of Adam, which was a holy qua- lification for this gospel ordinance, shall not he be bap- tized, who is rectitude itself? No just reason can be assigned why he should not. The dignity of his per- son, and the spotless purity of his nature qualified him for every part of his duty in his mediatory ca- pacity. He came down from heaven to do his will, who sent him; and in doing this will, he fulfilled all righteousness. The righteousness was the doing the 15 Avill of his Father. One part of the will of his Father was that he should be an example to his flock as the great Shepherd of Israel. All you have said will not prevent the baptists from taking the baptism of Chi'ist as an example worthy of their imitation. All your authorities about Jewish baptism are com- pletely refuted by Dr. Gill on that subject. I have the pamphlet; but no man ever presumed to answer it. Every author you have mentioned, and many more, are considered, and the mistakes corrected; and the point is given up by men of the best ac- quaintance with the Jewish writings, as affording no argument that can be depended on. Dr. Gill gives you the exact time, or thereabouts, in which every author lived. And surely Maimonides, who lived in the twelfth century, could know nothing on the subject, only what he collected from the Talmuds and other Jewish writings. And I think it rather lost time to spend much on the subject, whereas the holy scriptures are the only rule of our faith and obe- dience. Isaiah said, " To the law and to the testi- mony, if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." There is a capital fault in all discussions of pas- dorantists, on the subject of baptism: that is, they try to bewilder the honest readers, who are searching after truth. This is done by finding fault with lexi- cographers, and the translation of the holy scrip- tures, if possible to blind the reader to embrace pee- dorantism. ?>lucb dependence is placed on infer- 16 ence; but thi. is a very uncertain method of coming at the truth; for a papist draws a very different infer- ence from the same text, to what a protestant would. He can find his text for transubstantiation, and Peter being Christ's vicar; but you would draw a very dif- ferent inference from the same passages. And as for zeal they beat all others; for one of them told me, that if God from heaven would tell him that he was wrong, he would not believe him. I have read your sermon. I find it the old story in a different dress. Your criticism on the Greek cannot be justified. I have considered every text, and endeavoured to do justice before God; and I am willing to be examined at the day of judgment for the rectitude of my views. One thing is a common fault in all peedorantists: they dare not fix on any precise meaning of the word /^ot^Tj^w and /3a7rT<(r/>to?. They all veil themselves under different terms: such as w^ash, pour, or sprinkle. Come forward, sir, and fix on any one of these terms, and I will prove that the words do not mean that; but you dare not do it. You are not suited with the translation of £)t and ug. The texts you produce will not bear you out. I will now try your skill in Greek. Produce a passage where the Greek preposition can possibly mean mtOf and try if it must not mean into. Pray, sir, is there any other word in Greek to signify i?itoF Is it not used when we mean into heaven or heii, or any other place? What is this v an quibbling for? I know your design is to try to support your antichris- 17 tian superstition. But, sir, it will not do; for your cause is foiling, and it must foil, when men thro-v\' aside superstition, received by tradition. You say you can never be a baptist.* I believe while your present enmity continues, you cannot; but, sir, your implacable hatred is not greater against the baptists, than Paul's was against the christians; and yet afterw^ards, God made him a christian. The same God can make you a baptist; and except he makes you one, I do not wish you to be one. The reason you assign that you cannot be a baptist, is founded in ignorance of the world. You say " I can never denounce the baptism of the greatest pait of the christian world as false and antichristian." This is a mistake; for the greatest part use immersion even trine immersion. For instance, ail Russia, and all the Greek communion in all places. Armenians, Mmgrelians, Persians, and all to the east, who never submitted to the pope of Rome. Ail these use im- mersion; so that by far the greatest part use immer- sion to this very day; but where the pope's power has prevailed, there, after the first part of the eighth century, rantism has prevailed. For your further sa- tisfaction, read my refutation of Peter Edwards, to which this is an appendix; which will oblige you and all others to take new gi'ound on the subject of bap- tism. I come now, sir, to notice your treatment of Mr, Merrii; and I do not think you have used him with • Page 97. 2 c 18 suitable candor. Mr. Merril appears to me to be an honest christian; and his researches on the subject arose from conscience, and not any acquaintance with the baptist society. I am not sure you are correct in your quotations; but I will take for grant- ed you are; for nothing is meaner tlian to mistake the sentiments of an author. Your view seems to be to correct Mr. Merril's mistakes. The first is his quotation from Schrevilius, who says ^aTrrKry^og is /otio. Very well. But this is not very accurate; for it is not the primary sense of the word; for Schre- vilius renders the primary sense of (iocTrn^co, to be mergo, which all Greek scholars know means to im- merse; and (oacTTTco he renders, intmgo, mergo and lavo as the third meaning. What says Parkhurst on the subject? BaTTri^a from (^xtttco, to dip. Sense first: to dip, immerse or plunge in water; and in his second and third sense, he preserves the meaning to be pri- marily immersion. You say, does not /otio denote washing in any form of applying the water, and even by sprinkling? No, sir, it does not; nor can you prove that lotio or iavo ever is used for sprinkling. Both Greek and Latin have their distinct words for sprinkling. The Latin uses spargo, conspergo and aspergo, for sprinkling, and not lavo. The paido- rantists use a cant on this subject, which cannot be honestly justified, viz. When speaking of washing, they always use the phrase of applying water to the subject, and not the subject to the water. This is 19 their cunning to baffle the honest reader. It is grant- ed you may wash your hands by pouring water on them; but not by sprinkling them. Our wash-wo- men dip clothes into water in washing them; and after they are washed, they sprinkle them; tliey ne- ver call sprinkling washing. When I wash my hands, I dip them in the water; and I believe Mr. Campbell does so too. Your next remark respects John's baptizing di Jordan; which you wish to evade, by saying, " But if we translate the passage thus, were baptized of him at Jordan, what becomes of immersion?" Page 104. But, sir, you cannot justly translate it so, because the Greek preposition gv, when it means a place in which any thing is transacted, always means in. You may read my remarks on this subject in refuting Peter Edwards, who uses the same quibble, and your bubble will be dissolved totall}-. I have read over the evangelist Matthew, and find the word used in it near two hundred times; and in all these places it means in. Your next remark is in the same page, viz. " John was baptizmg in Enon, near to Salem, be- cause there was much water there." John iii. 23. You render ttqkka vSa^rot, many streams. Here you discover your deficiency of knowledge, both of his- tory and Greek; for Enon was a large fountain, and had only one stream. The Greeks have not two words, one for much and another for many. Neithef 20 ife ttoXaoi' v^u}^ ever used by them, when describing much water. They always use the plural. Uohhoe, vi^oiTx, is in the Revelation, i. 15. xiv. 2. xix. 6. Matt. viii. 32. Mark ix. 22. Now, sir, you will find that your knowledge in the Greek language is not quite correct. Crude productions always expose their author. Sir, in your review of Mr. Merril's seven ser- mons, page 107, you have mentioned several lexico- graphers; but for what purpose I know not; for they guA'e the primary sense of Qccttti^ui in favour of the baptists. I should have remained totally ignorant of your design in quoting the above mentioned authors, had you not made a display of your superlative knowledge at the bottom of the page, which de- mands a few remarks. Your ignorance mduces you to say, " The truth is that most lexicographers and grammarians, m givbig the meaning of words, have been more influenced by Jewish tradition, and what they saw practised in the church, than by fact, and the truth of things. They have too often confounded its sacred with its common signification, and inter- preted its meaning in the New Testament, by the sense put upon it by Jewish and heathen writers, or by that of the christian fathers, who began too early to corrupt the simplicity of christian baptism by various hurtful additions!" Now, sir, you have the honour to be the first man, who ever insinuated that the Jews and Greeks did not understand their own 21 languages; the Greeks did not know that /SaTT^rjuoc, meant sprnikhng; poor fools, they thought it meant immersion; and so did the silly Jews; and the chris- tian fathers were just as great fools as they; for they used dipping, and called it baptism. By this jargon, it is acknowledged by the great man, John P. Camp- bell, of Kentucky, that the Jews, Greeks, and the christian fathers, understood baptism to mean im- mersion. The truth is, it would require more igno- rance and impudence, than Mr. Campbell is posses- sed of to deny this. But, sir, you have your salvo on this subject, viz. they confounded its sacred with its common signification. The common significa- tion with Jews and Greeks was immersion; but the sacred meaning was rantism or sprinkling. What, sir, did Christ and his apostles change the meaning of words, from what was meant in the nation? No, sir, you have perverted and changed the meaning, to support the superstition of pasdorantism. Did not men in the first, second and third cen- turies understand their own language? Mr. Camp- bell would persuade men they did not. Or did not these poor blunderers know that the common use of words were changed into an exact contrary meaning when used about religion, to what they meant in common conversation? No: they thought religion was never designed to change the meaning of words in a nation. They knew no better than a baptist now. They thought that jSctTrrw and |3i*7rT- -^^