■if THE ONLY Accurate and Impartial REPORT. THE TRIALS or JAMES FORBES, HENRY HANDWICH, WILLIAM) GRAHAM, MATHEW HANDWICH, GEORGE GRAHAM, AND WILLIAM BROWNLOW, IN THE COURT OF KINGS BENCH, MONDAY, FEBRUARY 3, 1823, AND FOLLOWING DAYS, FOR A \Censpiracy, Riot, and an attempt to Assault THS HOST NODLE MARQUIS WELLESLEY, LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND, $c. $n. ON HIS VISIT TO TKE THEATRE, 14th DECEMBER, IS22) ON AN FILED BY THE RXGXX^ HON W. C. PLUNKETT, HIS MAJESTY'S ATTORNEY GENERAL. 2Jj? «m rmiitntt aaeyorttr. £moe!luhcd with a CORRECT LIKENESS of JSOBLE M.WQUIS. dubij:; : PRINTED BY RICHARD GRACE, 3, MARY-STREET. Price— Is. Sd. THE WILLIAM R. PERKINS LIBRARY OF DUKE UNIVERSITY R8R PREFACE. The proceedings detailed in the following pages, are preg- nant with interest — -they disclose facts and circumstances, that claim the earnest and undivided attention, of every reflecting individual in the community — the entire of the transactions, ♦including the original charge, with the subsequent prosecu- fjion, and its unsatisfactory termination, are of a character to influence, not merely the present temper, but possibly the ul- terior destinies of the country. Many attempts have been made to represent the matters alluded to, as frivolous, and trivial, but those who have attended more minutely to the workings of the public mind, and to the general progress of events, are inclined to form a very different conclusion — these trials, with their singular result, are at least indicative of the character, and probably decisive of the fate of an as- sociation, which has hitherto contrived to render itself, alike formidable to the Government, and the People — they have f ully developed the principles of those selfish miscreants, who have gone forward for years, trampling on the hopes, and blasts ing the prospects of the country, possessing themselves of in- fluence, but to produce calamity ! and availing themselves of confidence, only to generate confusion, and distrust. The present publication comes not before the reading world as a mere pamphlet — it is a work for historical refer- ence — interesting to cotemporaries, and likely to be valuable in centuries hence — to the future writer, who shall trace the History of our ill-fated Country, it will afford ample, but melancholy, materials for observation and reflection— it will enable him to solve many of those political enigmas, which have bewildered the theorists, of the times that are past — it will aid him in vindicating the long injured population of Ire- land, from the frequently reiterated charge of restlessness and . disaffection — it will assist him in elucidating the mysterious, irregularities of the national character— -in explaining apparent inconsistencies, and in illustrating circumstances that have been occasionally looked on as contradictory and inexplicable. The transactions recorded in the following sheets, will open to England! and to Europe, the true character of our internal policy — they will shew the real cause of our occasional dis- turbances — the Statesman, or the Philosopher, aftej the {>•• PREFACE. nisei, "will easily trace to the true source, many of the evils -which have hitherto afflicted the Country, the wrongs of the People will be thoroughly manifested, and the misfortunes accruing from the ascendancy of a desperate and selfish faction, made even self-evident — it will be seen, that if the lower classes have been turbulent and dissatisfied, it was not without ample provocation — if they sometimes resorted to direct and vindictive retaliation, it was from a justifiable feeling of distrust in the efficiency of the laws — if they re- venged themselves, when chance gave them the power, in a harsh or illegal mode, it was from a well founded conviction of the impossibility of procuring satisfaction, in any other shape : they had prejudiced tribunals to appeal to, and from such they naturally despaired of obtaining an impartial de- cision ;— the conclusion of the Trials is sufficient to justify this distrust on the part of the People. If the Viceroy cannot procure redress for an open assault and outrage, what has the peasant to hope for ? — an Orange Juror, with a host of witnesses before him, will not criminate a guilty brother, even for an attempt on the person of the first character in the coun- try ; and with this fact before us can we suppose him likely to act with impartiality, where only the life or interest of a mere commoner is at stake — party feeling is the curse — the besetting sin — -the hereditary blemish of our soil — the poverty and the distresses of our country, have only increased the virulence of political animosity — faction has produced faction — and the in- signia, and the watch- word of one association of idiots have been answered by the emblems and expressions of another — this state of things must terminate — the system of Ribbonism has been disarranged and broken; and the disciples of Orange- isnj should be prepared for a similar catastrophe— the rulers of the country have no alternative — their authority in order to continue must be exerted — if they seek the attachment or de- mand the obedience of the people, they must seem anxious to deserve the one, and appear competent to enforce the other — with us the Viceroy is the depositary of their power, and ke if not checked or shackled by cabinet intrigue, is capable of mak- ing that power, both dreaded and respected. The attention of- the reader is particularly directed to the .opening Speech of the Attorney- Gen era!— this eloquent and impassioned appeal, of which an ample Report is here given, ... is worthy of the high character of our distinguished countrv- man — Mr. North's harangue has been admired — 'tis certainly smooth and shewy, but the texture is extremely slight — the gentleman is a fair declaimer, but in reality,, a most wretched reasoner — the Solicitor-General's statement, will be found in- teresting — and, it is sufficient to mention the name of Bushe, to procure an attentive perusal, for the admirable Charge to the Jury. STATE TRIAL. COURT OF KINGS BENCH. MONDAY, FEB. S, 1823. The King, at the Prosecution of the Right Hon. William Conyngham Plunkett, Attorney General, versus Mathero Handwich, Henry Handwich, George Graham* fTm,- Graham, William Brownlow, and James Forbes. AT an early hour in the morning, so early as half-past six o'clock, the doors of the Court were surrounded by a consider-* able number of persons ; towards nine the crowd greatly en-» creased, and among them a large number of Gentlemen of the Bar. When the doors were opened the rush was frightful ; some gentlemen were thrown down and severely hurt; many had their clothes torn, and lost their hats and shoes ; the scene was dreadful to those who were compelled to be participators in it— disgraceful to those whose duty it was to have prevented it. The Judges entered the Court at ten o'clock. The Clerk having read the indictments, and called the names of the Tra- versers severally, they made no answer to the call. The High Sheriffs were ordered to be called by Mr. Hyland, officer of the Court. At half-past twelve the Attorney-General rose; he said, that, until the Traversers had severally answered to their names, ho would make no observation. The Court was now crowded beyond any thing ever before witnessed in a Court of Justice — the windows were elevated to admit air. The Traversers were again called by the Crier, severally ; and after proclamation for the Jury to be impanelled, the Attorney-General required to know if the Special Jurors had been all summoned ; and if s<^ was the Sheriff ready to prove the fact — the answer was in the affirmative. Mr. Seriven. — ihe Crown cannot proceed until the whole panel be "-one through, and until it be signed. He argued for the Traversers the right to have the panel signed by th« &ieriff; B and put it to the Court, whether the panel could be gone through if it were encreased without end. — How do we know it to ba the return to the precept ? Mr. Blackburne. — We apprehend this is not the proper panel ; it must be authenticated. The Court cannot act upon the panel without legal evidence, or official authentication. I have no objection, however, to the calling of the panel before it be signed. The panel was then called. There were repeated interruptions, from noise and confusion in the Court. The Jury not answering, the Attorney-General said it was necessary that the whole panel should be called on fine. The Traverser's Counsel objected to the fine imposed for non-appearance, as being excessive — 20l. The Att. Gen. declared his intention to enforce every fine. P. Golding, called and sworn. — Did >'you summon John Chambers ? I left the summons at his residence in Dublin. Forty-seven of the panel only having appeared. Attorney-General — Considering the importance to public justice of the trial, I must request that the Court will commit for contumacy. Chief Justice — It Is the unanimous opinion of the Court, that it cannot at present take any ulterior step : but Mr. Attorney- General may move to enlarge the panel. Mr. Attorney- General consented, and the Sheriff was di- rected to proceed accordingly. Attorney-General.- — Every one in this Court must be sur- prised at the smallness of the panel. I have a right to examine the Officers of the Court touching the cause. Ten names were then added to the panel. Mr. Driscoll required the Sheriffs' signatures to it — granted. Mr. Driscoll required one of the two informations to be tried at a time. The Attorney- General dissented. Mr. Driscoll contended for his privilege ; the informations were dissimilar, and should be tried separately. Mr. North made an objection for the prisoners, which was overruled. The Traversers, James Forbes, William Graham, William Brownlow, Henry Handwich, George Graham, and Mathew Handwich, were then put to the bar, and the panel was again called over, upon a fine of fifty pounds, in order to swear in a Jury. W. S. Magee, challenged by the Crown. pram-is Mills, sworn. George Alker, challenged. This person having taken the hc&k in his banc!. Mr. Perrin objected to the challenge, as the oath had begun* to be administered. It has been so ruled in the case of the King versus Brandeth. Attorney Gsner.il — The Officer of the Court will state the practice, and whether he went as far as the words " well and truly try." Mr. Serjeant Lefroy — It is a rule of practice, not of law.— The whole oath Avas not administered. Chief Justice — Let the Juror be re-produced Officer — Stand bye, Mr. Alker, you are not sworn James Wyon, sworn. John Hendrick, challenged hy the Crown. Thomas Fry, sworn. Robert Stubbs, challenged by the Crown. Nathaniel Walker, do. John Baker, sworn. John Jones, challenged by the Crown. James O. Smyth, do. P«ter Cockburn, do, Thomas Parker, sworn. William Osborne, challenged by the CrawjXn John Johnson, do. William Smith, do. John Caldwell, sworn. Arthur Battersby, challenged by the Crown. Thomas Hunt, do. Paul Chambers, do. William Taylor, called on pain of £50. did not appear S. Oldham, challenged. George Cutler, do. Ralph Ham, do. R. Dollard, sworn. Georg* Gunn, challenged. Wm. Dickenson, do. R. Annesley, bworn. William Geoghegan, challenged, Abraham Hargrave, sworn. Mathew Lamb, did not answer. Edward Armstrong, sworn William Milling, challenged. Neill M'Kenny, objected to on the part of the prisoners) by Mr. Robert Johnson, as having expressed opinions on the question. Chief Justice — State the question you mean to propose t# the Juror. Mr. Johnston — I wish to ask whether the Juror has said there was a conspiracy. Chief Justice — The question cannot be put. Challenge withdrawn. Mr. M'Kenny, sworn. John Stanley, challenged by the Crown. Isaac Tvndall, sworn. The following Gentlemen formed the Jury : — Francis Mills, Foreman. • James Wyon, Abraham Hargrave, Edward Armstrong, Neil M'Kenny, Thomas Frv, John Baker, • Richard Dollard, John Caldwell, R'.chard Annesley, Thomaf Parker. Lwuc Tvndall, 6 Mr. Driscoll for the prisoners. — My Lords, before the Attor- ney-General commences his statement, or enters into evidence for the prosecution, I have to pray your Lordships, that as the informations in this case are dissimilar, different judgments may be given. Chief Justice.-^-In felony and stealing the informations are dissimilar, and yet the same judgment is given. How can you make such an application in this case. Mr. Robert Johnson — My Lords, we demand a precedent from the other side; a case in which it has been done 'in invittint.* v Mr. J. S. Townsend, (for the Crown) — There is no precedent for diversity of judgment, excepting in what is called villaincous judgment, and that is only in capital cases. Chief Justice — Precisely so; therefore the Court cannot grant the application for which the Traversers counsel have contended. Mr. North rose to support the application of Mr. Driscoll. Chief Justice — I could wish, Mr. North, that you had risen before the Court had decided the point. I am most un- willing to deprive the Traversers of the assistance of their counsel, and on this account I shall attend to any observations that you may offer. Mr. North — -I thank Fyour Lordship, and I beg to ask, my Lord, if one of the prisoners be found guilty on one count, and some another, and supposing them anxious to make an application for a new trial, in which they must all concur, how is it possible unless there be a dissimilarity of judgment and evidence, for your Lordships to say, whether the Traversers are entitled to such a right, either collectively or individually. Chief Justice — ? We do not consider this a valid objection. Mr. Driscoll then applied to the Attorney -General for a list of the witnesses for the crown? In making the application, he was willing to grant to the Attorney-General a privilege of the same extent which he required for himself. The Attorney-General did not feel disposed to comply with the application of Mr. Driscoll. Mr. Driscoll further required that the witnesses for the crown should be removed from Court, The Attorney General was willing to agree ; and he begged to state, that any concession which he could with propriety grant should be made to the counsel for the Traversers. But Tie begged to state, that none of the witnesses for the Crown were in court, at least, he could positively declare, that he had given orders that they should not be allowed to [be present. At the same time he said, he had no objection that any of the witnesses for the Traversers should remain in court. Chief Justice — That being the case, I shall have the regula- tion of the whole business between the parties concerned. Mr. Richard W. Greene now opened the pleadings. The declaration contained many counts, and there were besides two informations — one with three, the other with two counts. First count stated that on the 14th December, in the 3d year of the King, that they repaired to the Theatre for the purpose of insulting his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. Second count, for conspiring generally to create a riot in the Theatre. Third count, for having conspired to assault the Lord Lieutenant. The second information. First count, after preliminary averments, that Defendants, with others unknown, did publicly insult, groan, and hiss his Excellency, kc. Second count, that die said Traversers did so continue to act for one hour and upwards. The Attorney General rose at half past twelve o'clock, and spoke as follows : — " My Lords, and Gentlemen of the Jury — It becomes my duty to state the grounds of the present prosecution, with the evidence on which it is to rest for support. My Lords — often as it has been my lot to have been a public prosecutor ; often as I have appeared to fulfil my duty to the Executive ; frequently as I have been engaged for private individuals, I do most solemnly declare, that I never approached this venerable Court with a more deep-felt anxiety, or addressed a -Jury un- der such embarrassing circumstances. My Lords, this is no ordinary case, nor is it a common-place occasion ; It is a case, Gentlemen, in which although the lives of the parties are not concerned, nevertheless, if the facts charged be proved, it is a case in which heavy and exemplary punishment awaits the Defendants. It is a case, my Lords, as my learned friend who opened the pleadings has told you, in which it will be proved that a deliberate, preconcerted effort was made to assault the Representative of Majesty, and further, to drive him out of this country. Gentlemen, I cannot smooth or soften down facts: this is really the true complexion of the case at present before you. Gentlemen, I should indeed blush for the place of my birth, if I did not live in a country in which the mere mention of the facts which I shall disclose did not excite your indignation and abhorrence. I do not come here as the representative of Lord Wellesley. I do not come here to seek reparation for the injury and the outrage that ha» been inflicted on that Nobleman ; but I come here, Gentle- men, as the representative of the majesty of the law, to de- mand justice on a desperate, though contemptible gang, who have confederated to put down the King's Representative, roerelv because he obeys the King's eommandi. " My Lords, I know the feelings of the illustrious and ex- alted personage against whom this villainy has been committed — I know that his elevated mind spurns at not having been exposed to any noble danger ; but as there is '* some sort of good in things evil," so has his Excellency's mind been cheered by that great and glorious burst of public feeling, which, in its mighty circumference of circle, lias surrounded the object of its admiration, and concealed from his admiring view, the dark spots that environ (he hallowed halo. Gentle- men, it now remains for me to put down by law the atrocious gang whose hearts were so sublime, (and thanks be to Hea- ven, so solitary) in iniquity, as to conceive and perpetrate an object of such atrocious ferocity. Gentlemen, on this occa- sion I have no object— no feeling but one — namely, the attain- ment of public justice ; and believe me when I say that I shall go away humbled and self-reproached from this Court, if 1 do not satisfactorily demonstrate, that a foul conspiracy existed against the person and the Government of the Marquis Wellesley, Gentlemen, the facts which I shall lay before you are in my mind so clear and palpable, that I protest to Hea- ven I should think I had committed a base dereliction of my official duty, had I not arraigned these men here to-day, before God, their King, and their Couatry. You are all aware, Gentlemen, of the Grand Jury, I will not be so uncandid as to conceal from you my strong conviction, that pubiic justice had not been done on that occasion. In all my experience of the troubles and political agitations of the last five and twenty years, I do most solemnly asseverate that I never heard — that I never met with a case in which the fact6 were so conclusive., I wish to be understood as throwing no imputation on the Grand Jury — the affair is between God and their conscience. It is not my business to arraign the Sheriff who impannelled that Jury — he is not on his trial. It is not my business to denounce the Grand Jur}- — they too are not on their trial— but the time may come, and at no very distant day, when, in another place, 1 shall not shrink from the efficient discharge of my public duty, should there be a further recurrence to this transaction. I entreat the indulgence of the Court, for. having so far criven way to my feelings. I implore the atten- tion of the Jury while I return to the case before them, and detail the dark and dangerous ramifications into which it branches and extends. «• Gentlemen — I shall commence so far back as the 4th of November, the anniversary of the birth-day of King William. Gentlemen, perhaps it is no part of ray duty to rescue history from misrepresentation, or to defend the memory of the illus- trious dead ; but as one anxious to preserve the memory of King William from the contaminating influence of the igno- rant admiration of the traversers, in vindication of "the me- mory of a good man and a great King, T raise my voice against the ludicrious idolatry, against the millinery and mantua-making devotion of these hebroclite politicians. I claim for King William the merit of rescuing my country from the bondage and the despotism which the Stuarts inhe- rited from each other, and which flowed from father to son, generation after generation. I claim for him the merit of having subdued arbitrary power, of having conquered faction, of having transmitted to me, and to you, the blessings of a free Constitution. I claim for him the merit of the Bill of Rights, and the pure administration of justice. I claim for him the advantage of having prevented civil war, and of hav- ing settled the Constitution by stopping the effusion of blood. — I claim to have him considered as a head to whom difficulty was but incitement, to whom impediment was but renewed exertion, to whom defeat was victory. I claim all this for the man who poor in purse, but rich in mind ; unaided, un- supported, excepting by exertion and perseverance, overcame the obstacles which a confliction of powerful interests flung in his way. Who by his wisdom, his firmness, his policy, united the most discordant and disagreeing materials, and reconciled the jarring pretensions of the jealous and the ambitious — Great King William was not a consummate general. Success xlid not crown his labours, nor the prospect of booty excite his ardor. But the want of both were unable to damp the vision of his mind. Adversa rerum immersabilis unda. That reward which in conquering a kingdom gave it a constitution similar in kind and equal in advantage to that enjoyed by the freest nation in the universe. He was a second Scipio ; su- perior to Tamerlane, and equal to Regulus, he wielded with discretion the unrestrained resources of a mixed monarchy. ** Unfortunately, however, there were in this kingdom per- sons who, from a concordance in religion with the desposed monarch were ready to resist the government of William. Gentlemen, I cannot but odmire the fidelity and devotion of these persons, and while I lament that the object of their affections was unworthy, I cannot but remember the strength of nature, the despotism of prejudice, and the endearing fascination of a similarity of sentiment. To these persons the victory of William was a u sad servitude," a bitter triumph. Their religion extinguished, their altars desecrated, their lands confiscated, their alliance broken with that monarch, whose fame, whose renown, whose strength, and whose glory, had made all Europe prostrate; and whose popularity promised a speedy acquisition of these kingdoms had it not been for the consummate wisdom and wise policy of the enlightenedWilliam —I mean Louii IV.—Long did this wound fester, and longer / 16 did it fasten itself in these devoted, high minded, chiva-lris champions of a religion which they adored, and a principle which they cherished. But even this, this triumph was not sufficient by an intolerant party ; still did it ring in the ears of the subdued, the memory of their defeat and humiliation. Let me ask was this just ? I am sure it was not generous, nor high minded. And so, the beloved monarch who now reigns in the hearts, and rules, by the affections of his, people thought. In that visit, which in his solicitude for your welfare, he was induced to pay you, the memory of which shall never fade from •my recollection, as I am sure it never will be obliterated from yours ; and any attempt to convey an idea of the blessings of which, would be vain, and inadequate— in that visit his Ma~ jesty witnessed with delight the ardour, the affection, and allegiance of his Irish subjects — his heart was touched — his generous nature was arroused — and he determined on the ex- tinction of those feuds and animosities, which had hitherto proved so baneful to the country. In this spirit his Majesty's parting admonition was framed. For a time it had the desired effect ; but even before his Majesty left this hospitable shore, it was evident that the elements of discord were at work. It is well known that before his Majesty condescended to dine at the Mansion- House, he had stipulated that the toast of the " Glorious Memory' should not be given. His Majesty, with that quick apprehension which he possesses, saw the evils of in- tolerance and animosity, and entered upon the godlike task of doing what had been left undone by his predecessors. In fur- therance of this object he participated in the conviviality of his subjects, and restrained by his august presence the intem- perate exhibition of an enthusiastic, (perhaps) but certainly a wicked and mistaken feeling. But this was not all — he sent among us a countryman of whom we are all proud, and who has added new lustre to the name of Irishmen; whose name and whose fame have spread wherever commerce or civilization has penetrated ; the brother of a warrior, a statesman himself, wise in council, deliberate in judgment, intrepid, unyielding, and resolute: prompt to command, ard ready to execute; the friend of civil and religious liberty — a soldier and a statesman. This is not adulation, or the inordinate incense which power commands. It is true, I am Attorney- General, and that Lord Wellesley is Chief Governor, but I have too correct a notion of that illustrious person's good taste to suppose he would not discountenance the familiarity of a sycv>pnantic flattery. However such was the man chosen to effectuate the intentions of royalty, and to put into practice the beautiful theory eked and etched out by the royal hand. The first act of the Marquis Wellesley was to discountenance the giving of a toast which was grossly misused and much misunderstood, 11 tfnd which in consequence was grossly offensive to the majority of the people. His second, to prevent that annual exhibition of bad ta^te and «' gaudy glare' by which the admiration of the vulgar were captivated and entralled. I speak of the dressing of the Statue merely as a matter of taste, and I assert that every educated and classic mind, must revolt at the idea of witnessing a hero and a conquerer crowned with chequered compliments of a dark red and deep yellow. I assert that no man has a right to dress the statue, or in any way to interfere with what is the public property. I remember same years ago, when some ruffians bedaubed that statue with lamp black, which by every one was considered an illegal disfiguration. 1 would ask, where is the mighty dLTerence between black and yellow ? Is not the one as illegal and as tasteless as the other ? The prohibition of this mischievous ceremony was called for by the Protestant, inhabitants of the neighbourhood ; no Roman Catholic signatures were afiixepl to the requiskion, although they had equally, nay doubly, a right to complain. On this requisition did the authorities act, sanctioned by the approving acquiescence of the _ Marquis VVel- lesley, and the consequence was, there was no dressing. — Then was the tocsin of alarm sounded against the ?>iarquis's government ; and then was planned that systematic opposition, that combined confederation, which has since enceavoured, covertly and openly, to subvert, impede, and overturn, the government of the Marquis Wellesley. For several nights was the statue guarded to prevent a breach of the peace, and twice was the dressing attempted in defiance law ; in defiance of the wishes of the King ; in defiance of the mandate of the Lord Lieutenant. One of the Traversers at present arraigned it will be proved to you, was active at that dressing* The plotting went on in regular progression, from the 4-th of No- vember till the 7th of December, and on this day, the conspi- rators were aware that an opportunity would soon offer, to effect in public, what they had planned and designed in private. It was now advertised that his Excellency would visit the Theatre in state, on the 14th December, and thus would be afforded an excellent opportunity of pouring forth the muddy stream of their abominable animosity. Tickets were purchased from the Box-keeper, previously to the night of entertainment. — a part of the gang were to station themselves in the pit-— tome in the lattices — but the greater portion were to be civided between the upper and middle galleries. These latter were to march from Daly's in Werbutrgh-.street, that is. Lodge 1612. They were to go on ticket* previously purchased bv thr'ee of the Traversers. A man of the name of Heron, holdftig a respectable situation under (t )vernment in the Custom H;.mse and the Post-OJfice, was ■ to have furnished £z.*for t lese uur* C 12 poses. Moreover, it will be stated that these people went armed with bludgeons; others had rattles and whistles; a third party were provided with inflammatory placards and addresses, which were flung copiously; some of these handbills Fell on bis Excellency's head. Others of the conspirators hallooed, vociferated, and hissed, on the exhibition of the signs, and on the shouting of the watchword by their confederates in the pit and lettices. Thus a regular subinfeudation and fealty will be proved, and this is the link by which the conspirators were bound and knit together, to overbear the law and brow-beat the authorities. All this will be proved to you by testimony unimpeachable and incorrupt. Moreover it will appear tliat a piece of wood, a watchman's rattle was flung, which struck his Excellency's box, and rebounded on the stage — that a glass bottle was hurled from the galleries by one of the Traver- sers, which struck the drop curtain and rolled on the stage. Beside this, the riotous demeanour and expressions of the Traversers will be developed; and from the strength of this connected evidence, coupled with what afterwards occurred ui a public tavern, you cannot have a rational doubt of the guilt of the prisoners." [The learned Attorney General here adverted to the modd of proceeding by Ex-officio, and entered into a defence of its legality, and the necessity that existed, under the present cir- cumstances, of resorting to it ; he quoted several Law Autho* rities in support of his opinion, and_of its being strictly legal and constitutional. 3 " I have, (he continued) authorities in abundance, if ne- cessary, but I had considered it a waste of the time of the Court, to discuss ths recognition of a known and established le^al principle. I further submit, that the throwing out of a Bill by a Grand Jury, is no bar to further legal proceedings. It is, undoubtedly, a rule of law, that 'no man can be twice tried for the same offence; but a Grand Jury do not try, they only determine to put a man on his trial. This is a marked and evident distinction between the free opinions of a Grand and Petit Jury, and if the former throw out the Bills, I should be glad to know, whether or not the Plaintiff and Defendant do not stand in the same relation, as they had done before the in- stitution of the proceedings. The not finding of the Bills, fs frequently assigned as additional cause for the institution of fresh proceedings. This was lately decided in $heil v. Patter- son, within the recollection of all your Lordships. In the Portsmouth case too, where the Bills had been twice ignored,. an information was granted in the King's Bench — But there is also another case in 3 Bun. where Lord Mansfield says to De Grey, Attorney General, or Sir Fletcher Norton, (I forget which; ) •* That V the lowest subject was not righted by a 13 Grand Jury, the King's Bench will interfere." If then this privilege be* conceded to the lowest subject in the realm, sure a like privilege will not be denied to the King, or the King's officer. But there is another case, a theatrical one, which bears so close a resemblance to the present, that I cannot forbear quoting it, even at the risque of being tedious. My Lords and Gentlemen — You have all heard no doubt, of the celebrated Doctor Garth — Be it known to you then that this gentleman wrote a prologue; certainly, it was more grateful than sagacious, for it praised King William and libelled Queen Anne. At the representation the actors refused i* repeat the prologue by reason of the libel. Mr. Dudley Moore, however a zealous protestant, jumped on the stage and repeated the prologue amidst the applause of the auditory. Moore was indicted, and a true bill found—but the jurors having been dismissed returned in half an hour, and stated that "Billa vera'* was a mistake, and that ignoramus should have been the return (laughter). — And to this fact the twenty- three jurors swore. The Attorney General then moved to quash the indictment and succeeded ; but he also filed an ex- officio information for the same offence. Sir Constantine Phipps however, one of the Lords Justices, and Chancellor of Ireland, interfered improperly with the jury and lectured the Lord Mayor. For this offence he was summoned before the privy council, who addressed the crown to dismiss him, and retail the Attorney General who had properly filed the ex-officio." The Attorney General, in conclusion, entreated the jury to give a patient and attentive hearing to the evidence that would be produced ; and he had no doubt whatever of being able to fully establish the charge brought against the traverser!. Richard Lowther, Box-Keeper of the Theatre Royal, "was sivorn anal examined by the Solicit or -General, Did the Lord Lieutenant visit the Theatre on Saturday evening, the H*th December? He did. Was his Excellency s intention publicly announced for some time before ? YeS ; I believe it was advertised for some days before. Did Forbes and Graham, two of the traversers in this case, purchase any tickets from you ? Yes, they did. Pray how many ? I be- lieve six each. You are sure that Graham bought tickets from you? lam. Do you remember were these parties to- gether when they purchased ? This I cannot swear. You think, however, they bought nearly at the same time ? Yes, I do. What sort of tickets did these persons purchase ? Pit tickets. How many of these pit tickets did they buy ? I be- lieve six each. You know Mr. Forbes's person ? I do, (with, hesitation.) Is he here? No, (rather confusedly.) Yon don't thin^ he is here ? I don t think fre is. Fray, Sir, lopk H to the right, is that Mr. Forbes ? Yes, Sir, I see him now as well as Graham. Cross-examined by Mr. Robert Johnstone — Is it not usual to purchase tickets on a night on which a full house is expected, to avoid the crush, and to get in quietly before the entertain- ment takes place? It is very usual. And six tickets is no unusual number to have purchased ? No ; I have often sold more. Pray, Sir, did you not give Mr. Graham orders for his sisters, on the night in question ? I gave him a box docket for his sisters. Mr. George Atkinson sworn. — Examined by the Attorney- General. Do you hold any public situation, Mr. Atkinson ? No, Sir, Does your brother, pray? He does/ Sir. May I ask the nature of it, Sir? Clerk of Deliveries in the Custom House, Do you recollect the evening of the day of the 14 When the play was done. Was not Forbes tipsy when he came to Essex-street ? Yes, he was,, and appeared warm ; ho drank also during supper. What toasts did Forbes give at supper? Ci The King, the Glorious Memory, Protestant Ascendancy," and many other toasts of that kind. At what hour did you separate ? At half-past one o'clock. Were, there strangers there ? There were. Did 1 you offer to come forward as a witness iu Forbes'* favor"? I don't recollect. Did 11 you tell any body what you could say in favor of Forbes? No. Nor that you could give evidence in his favor, if your brother was safe ? No. Did you hear that it was intended to throw a bottle or a missile at the Theatre ? No. What did you understand by the expression, "Boys be wicked?" I heard that they were going too far a-head. Laughter. Was not Forbes rather drunk at the time he used these words at Werburgh- street ? He was. What situation of life are you in now— Have you any employment ? No ; I was formerly an officer in the Custom-House. Re-examined by the Attorney General. Were you ever sent for by any person to make a communication on this subject. I was. Did you make a communication ? I did. Was any promise or threat held out to you in consequence of that communication. None upon my oath. Mr, Atkinson examined for George Graham, by Mr. Driscoll, You saw George Graham there? He was not there, nor was Mathew Handwich. Did you see George Graham doinj anything mischievous at all ? I did not. Or Mathew Hand- wich ? No. Nor Henry Handwich ? No. Mr. Atkinson examined for William Broxvnloxv, by Mr, Seriven. You have said Brownlow was at Flanagan's ? Yes. Did he not sit at a table by himself in the tap-room ? Yes. Did Mr. Brownlow say or do any thing that night ? He came to the table where Forbes 'and I were sitting. Do you know a man of the name of Farley? No. Not even by sight? No. Did you not hear that that man intended to give evidence against yourself? No. When did you give any information relative to these matters ? 1 don't recollect. How long after the Saturday night? A long time. Was it long after the com- mission ? It was. How long after ? On Tuesday. By Mr. North— Was Mr. Graham at the lodge in Wer- ^urgh-street ? No. The Court adjourned at Five o'clock. SECOND DAY. The Court sat at nine o'clock this morning. The Chief Justice and Judges J ebb, Burton, and Vandeleur -having taken their seats on the Bench, and the Gentlemen of the Jury having answered to their names, the several Traver- gers were called; they answered severally to their names, after which the first witness called on the part Of the Crow* wa$ John Atkinson . 18 Mr.- Serjeant Lefro^, after stating that on account of the absence of some of the witnesses, he and his colleagues would deviate from the order of the evidence which they had intended to pursue, desired the crier to call Joan Atkinson Who being sworn, was examined by the Solicitor General. Do you remember the night .the Lord Lieutenant went to the Theatre- Royal ? I do, Sir. Was his Excellency's inten- tion known to you before? It was, Sir. Do you remember meet it) g with any person, at any time prior to the night of his Excellency's going to the Theatre, and do you remember speaking on the subject to any such person ? Yes, I do- Had you mor-e than one meeting at which his Excellency's intention was the subject of conversation at the meeting ? Yes ; I heard it mentioned more than once. I ask you whether you were in company with any persons when his Excellency's inten-f tion was the subject of conversation, and whether it occurred more than once ? It did. When did the first of the meetings take place — was it one, two, or three days before his Excel- lency went to the Theatre? It was a few .days previous; I can t immediately mention the day. Do you remember going to the Shakespeare Tavern and speaking there with persons on the subject, previous to his Excellency's going to the Theatre ? I do ; 1 was there on one night before the time. Do you re- member what that night was ; was it two or three nights pre- vious ? I really forget whether it was two or three nights. What was the subject of conversation at the supper on that night ? It was about the steps we should pursue- Who were present at that meeting ? I was for a good part of the night. Mention others; do you remember others? I do Sir; there was Mr. Stoker present. Was there any other ? Thera was Mr. Bentley. Any body else ? Yes; Mr. Heron was- there. That is the person I asked you about; you and Mr. Heron were there ? Yes, Sir. What did the conversation turn on. ( Here Mr. Blackburne objected to the question, because one of the Traversers was connected by the evidence, with the Shakespeare Tavern.) Question by the Solicitor Genera! — You recollect that there was a meeting at the Shakespeare, at which the last witness who was examined was present ? ( Here the Attorney General explained the circumstances of the previous meeting. ) The Solicitor General, in continuation, said, I wrjtfju'st mentioning that there was a previous meeting, and that tiio former witness had connected this meeting at the Shakespeare, with .the one here, Mr. Driscoll — He does, but in an imperfect way. The Solicitor- General — I will make it perfect for vou,. 19 The Chief Justice observed, that it having been said in the presence of Forbes that there was a meeting, at which they had determined to do what would make the Lord Lieutenant unpopular, the evidence could be connected. Mr. Driseoll admitted the general principle of the law, but contended the law did not apply. Mr. Robert Johnson said that it would be carrying evidence beyond its proper limits, if when one man comes to another and tells him that there is to be a meeting, and if it should be maintained, that all that takes place at that meeting i* evidence against the man who told the other that there would be such a meeting. The last witness did distinctly say that he would not swear that he had heard the Lord Lieutenant's name mentioned. But he (Mr. Johnson) would suppose that the witness had heard it mentioned — still that would not make it evidence- If one man say9 that a meeting took place, upoa what principle is it that all the facts connected with that meeting, or all the consequences of the meeting, shoulcL.be evidence against that man ? When that meeting is brought forward, it may refer to some other meeting different from the insulated evidence of having heard that a meeting took place. Mr. North, after having explained the nature of the rule of evidence, which he declared to be founded on good sense, said, that whenever a number of persons are in pursuit of one common object, the declaration of the sentiments of one of them was evidence against the others ; but that the rule never extended to this — that the statement made by one of them. that a fact took place, can be evidence of that fact. Let A and B have conspired to effect a common purpose, an act done by B in pursuit of that purpose is evidence against A ; but if b says against A, that such a person is knocked down in the street, that statement cannot be evidence against A. Mr, North continued to argue with great zeal, and in suppbrt of his opinion, quoted the case of Hardy, Tooke, and others. Mr. Hamilton, after alluding to the authority quoted by Mr. North, argued that such evidence was inadmissible. The Court over-ruled the objection, declaring, that the evidence ought to be admitted, because the persons who were assembled at the one meeting were assembled at the other, ancl because there was a community of object at the two assemblies, which would make what commenced at the one, evidence of the nature of the object at the second. There was evidence that the thing which commenced and which passed at the Shakespeare, was commenced aad acted on at Werburgh-street, In short there was evidence to go to the Jury, that t!iemeet» ing at the Shakespeare and the meeting at Werbj: ^-sir^t, weresevetal parts of the the one conspiracy. All the conspi- rators are not proved to have been at both the meeting*. 9 20 The examination was then resumed by the Solicitor General. Q. The conversation turned at the Shakespeare on the Lord Lieutenant's intended visit to the Theatre ; was any thing done in consequence of his going to the Theatre ? — Yes, Sir ; it was mentioned that some people should be sent thei'e on the night of his going to the Theatre. (J For what particular purpose was it agreed on, and what was concerted at that meeting for the sending of the persons to the Theatre ? — I cannot be very par- ticular, because it was at an advanced hour of the night ; the subject, as far as I can remember — Mr. Robert Johnson, K. C. — What the witness is now go- ing to say will not be evidence ; he is not u> give conclusions, but statements of facts. Here the Chief Justice explained to the witness that he was not bound to state the exact words, though, on the other hand he was not allowed to give his own conceptions, but o^y the substance of what had passed. Q. Now recollect what occurred respecting the Lord Lieu- tenant ? It was mentioned by one or two others to raise a fund to buy tickets, to be given to the people, and to send them td the Theatre. Q. For what purpose were they to be sent to the Theatre ? Mr. Driscoll objected to the question. The Chief Justice. Was it discussed or mentioned for what purpose the men were to be sent to the Theatre ? Because his Excellency was going to the Theatre, it was to render him, I suppose unpopular. The Chief Justice. — You are not, Sir, to say what you suppose. — It was for the purpose of rendering the Lord Lieutenant unpopular, or words to that effect. Q. You have said, sir, that the object was to render the Lord Lieute- nant unpopular, and that words were mentioned to that effect. 1 ask you, Sir, was any mention made of what would result from that unpopularity ? Yes — that it might cause his removal. — Q. Will you just listen to me — As it was passed at the meet- ing that tickets would be bought, and that men would be sent to the Theatre, the object was to render the Lord Lieutenant unpopular in the country, and to remove him, the consequences were immediate and remote.— -Yes, Sir. Q. As to the conse- quences which were to be immediate at the Theatre, what wa* che immediate object there with respect to the Lord Lieutenant, by sending the men ? It was mentioned that it might cause him to leave the Theatre. Q. Am I right in understanding you as having said that the second object was to make him leave the country ? Yes. Q. Am I right in stating as your evidence, that tickets were bought, & that men were to be sent to the Theatre for the immediate purpose of making him quit theTheatre, and that the remote object was to make him quit the country ? It .was. Q. Did you receive any subscriptions for carrying into effect the plan ? I did. Q. For what jmrpote was it given ? s 21 It was not mentioned at the time I received it. Q. You sai(J that when you were in the Shakespeare, it was mentioned that money was to be raised? It was mentioned the night before, that money would be sent to me ; and the next day it was sent to me under a blank cover. Do you know the hand- writing which was ou,ihe blank cover. I am not sure of it. Do you know who the person was who sent you the money ? I know the person who said he would send it to me ; it was Mr. Heron* who said he would send it to me. Who is he? He holds a public employment; I hear he holds a situation in a public of- fice — in the post-office. Have you seen him acting in the post- office ? I never saw him. Did you ever see him in the cus- tom-house ? He is reported to be so. Here the Attorney-General said, that is quite sufficient. Q. How were the persons who were to be treated with tickets to be employed ; what part of the bouse were they to be sent to ? To the upper gallery. What was agreed upon ? It was agreed upon that they were to be sent to the upper gallery. Why to the upper gallery and not to any other part of the House ? It was not considered necessary to send them to the other parts of the House. Here Mr. Robert Johnson, made a remark on the kind of witness which was on the table, when the Attorney General immediately said, that Council had no right to throw out impu- tations against the witness. Mr. Johnson said he had a right to do so ; but the Chief Justice declared that the observation made on the witness, while on his ^direct testimony, was not right. Mr. Johnson explained and argued that he was right ; but the Chief Justice said, what I object to is this ; you assail the wit- ness in the hearing of the Jury, and ) 7 ou allude to & particular circumstance, which observation ought not to be made ; whea you shall address the Jury just now, you can make any observa- tion which you please connected with the case, but you shall not be at liberty, during the progress of the trial, to make such ob«. servations ; we will not allow it. Mr. Johnson said, he was sorry for the observation, but conceived that he had the right to make it. The Solicitor General in continuation. Q. I am alluding to the meeting at the Shakespeare ; now, sir, I ask you was there any reason assigned, or talked of, why all the men should be sent to the gallery, and none to the Boxes or Pit ? There was * ason assigned ; it was mentioned that there would be plenty go to the rest of the Jlouse, and to treat themselves. Do ou remember seeing any of the persons again on any subse- quent occasion ? I do sir. On what occasion ? I saw them on> the evening of the morning I left the Shakespeare Tavern. W'aere did you see them ? In Werburgh-street. At whoso house ? At Daly's in Werburgh-street. Whom did you see at ^hat time ? I saw Mr. Stoker and Mr. Heron. Did you see any 22 ©f the Traversers who are here, I mean that are in Court ?■ (Af- ter a pause, looking about him.) I saw Handwich. Do 5 ou remember which Handwich ? I believe his name is Henry. Do you know his person ? I do. Do you see him here in Com 1 ? I do. Tell me who were there on that occasion ? Do you mean in the evening ? Solicitor Genera]. Yes. A Mr. Fletcher was there. Do you remember any other ? Mr. Stoker's brother v as there. Do you know any other. No answer. Were there se- veral persons there ? I don't recollect any more. Was there any conversation on the subject of the Theatre ? There was. What? was the nature of that conversation ? There was a deal relative to the subject. It was about the mode of going up to the up* per gallery, and how they should conduct themselves there. Was there any conversation how they would go ? There was ; Handwich was asked to get some people to go to the Theatre. Did you a:rmge any thing about the manner, or how they were to conduct themselves at the Play ? It was mentioned that , after " God Save the King'' was played, they should call for ?5 The Boyne Water." What were they to do after that ; upon calling for " The Boyne Water." what were they to do ? They were to endeavour to get it. If it was not got, what were they to do then ? They were to interfere and to endeavour to prevent the performance from going on. Was any thing mentioned re- latiAe to the Lord Lieutenant on that night f The witness re- mained silent. Do 3 r ou remember any thing having been said relative to the Lord Lieutenant ? Another pause. If not, Sir, you need not mention what you thought ? It was also mentioned that the Lord Lieutenant might, probably, be compelled to withdraw from the Theatre. Do you remember after that, call- ing any where for the purpose of seeing Handwich ? I did call to see him. Where did you call? I called at Dominick-st., at Mr. Colburn's the carpenters. Was it previous to going to the Theatre ? It was previous ; it was on the morning of the same day. Was that previous or subsequent to the meeting at Wer- Jmrgh-street? It was previous. Did you see Handwich there ? No ; I saw his brother. Had yon any conversation with his bro- ther ? I merely said that I wanted to see his brother. Do you see him among the Traversers ? I do not see him there. It was here mentioned in Court tjiat Handwich had more than one brother, Q. All you did then is this, that you asked for his brother Henry ? Yes, and to inform him that I wanted to see him, J)id you see him afterwards ? I did ; in Werburgh- street. Did you ask him any questions relative to the plan ? I do not recol- lect ; he got his instructions from Mr. Heron and Mr. Stoker relative to the way in which he and they were to conduct them- selves at the Theatre. Whom do you mean by " they' 1 — The individuals. What individuals ? I mean the men Handwich was to bring with him to the Theatre. 23 'Witness went on to state in answer to tlie question* pro- pose*! to him, that he did not know the exact number of per- sons Hdiirtwich was to bring ; he mentioned if there could be sixty or seventy persons brought. Tickets were purchased; saw pome of the parties the evening after; that was on Friday evening ; it was at half-past twelve o'clock on Thursday morn- ing that tiie meeting was held at the Shakespeare ; they staid there unril three. On Friday evening witness was at Daly's at YVerburgh-street ; it was business brought witness there, he went, to meet his Lodge ; saw Heron at the Lodge ; Mr. Stoker Mr. M'Culiagh, Mr. Fletcher, Mr Forbes, and several others were there ; Mr. Forbes did not belong to that Lodge ; he came there as a visitor ; something passed there on the business of the Theatre ; money was subscribed to purchase tickets ; be- lieves all the individuals in the room subscribed ; a pound was subscribed there ; a pound was handed to witness that evening before out of the Lodge; it was not subscribed in the Lodge, or from the Lodge ; can't swear which he-got it from ; Mr. Stoker or Mr. Heron, but had it from either ; had four pounds in all ; witness handed the most part of it over for the purpose of purchasing tickets. Tickets were purchased ; Mr. M'Cul- iagh and Mr. Forbes went into the Theatre for the purpose of purchasing them ; witness did not go in; they gave him (wit- ness) back some change ; there was a meeting mentioned to be held in Ship- street, at the house of Mrs. Daly; this meeting was held at five o'clock on Saturday ; thej met there previous to going to the Theatre ; witness had visited Lodges at Mrs. Daly's in Ship-street; they are of the lowest description of Lodges ; there was not much done there that n?ght ; there was some refreshment got for the men ; they all took some drink ; witness has heard of Black Lodges ; don't belong to one of them; the black are considered the higher Lodges ; not higher as to persons or respectability, but higher in step, in promo- tion ; the tickets were distributed that night ; saw several per- sons that night, amongst whom tickets had been distributed ; saw them as they came into the room ; there was not a great many of them ; some of them had sticks with big heads upon them ; witness saw handbills in the Theatre ; did not see them before; don't remember any sign, or watch word having been agreed on, by which the party might recognise each other; witness went to the Theatre that nrght ; went first to the gal- lery, afterwards went down to the boxes ; witness would noC know Handwich's men. When they came for their tickets, they just came and went; Forbes, M'Culiagh, witness's brother, and himself, went straight to the upper gallery ; they first went to the upper gallery ; they afterwards went to the upper boxes ; Forbes had a small whistle ; they got the whistles at Daly's in Ship street ; witness supplied the whistles j thexe was a rattle there ; can't say who had it ; the rattle was in Ship- street ; there was a bottle there. Were there more whistles than one ? Yes. Where did they get them ? They got them at Daly's in Ship street. Was it Daly the witness said ? Do you mean to say that they were supplied there ? A pause. Who supplied them ? A pause. Did you supply them ? I did altogether. You told us that you had got the stock purse ? I had, Sir. Did you see a. jattle there ? There was a rattle there ; but I did not see who had it. Question by the Chief Justice. — WTiere did you aee the rattle? In Ship street. Examination resumed by the Solicitor General. — Did you *ee the bottle there ? I did. What kind of a bottle ? A black bottle. Did you hear any conversation with any of the party about a bottle having been thrown ? I heard there was ; but I was in the lobby at the time that it was thrown. Was it- Here Mr. Driscoll objected to the question, because the wit- ness said that he had not been in the Theatre when the bottle was thrown. The Chief Justice. — That is not evidence, Mr. Driscoll. The Solicitor-General is following it up. The Chief Justice — I agree with Mr. Driscoll, that yon fan't ask that question as to effect any of the Traversers. Mr. Solicitor-General. — Is it not to any part of a concerted plan ? Chief Justice — What is said is not evidence, unless said by one of themselves. Did you hear from any of the prisoners ; I mean at any time, or at any place ; did you hear of the throwing of the bottle ? After a pause; It was mentioned in general conversation in Essex-street. The Chief Justice said *hat could not be given as evidence, unless connected with some of the traversers. Who were present in Essex-street ; in who*e house was it ? Witness. — Which house do you mean ? Do you mean Mrs. Flannagan's ? The Solicitor- General answered in the affirmative. The witness then said — : ♦here were some of the prisoners there that night: William Graham was there, Forbes was there, and Brownlow was there. Were any others of the Traversers there ? There were others there. Was your brother there ? He was. Do you mean to say, that you heard a conversation about the bottle being thrown? Yes, Sir, it was mentioned. Come, as well as you can recollect, tell what you heard ; I don't want to know what the exact words were? (After a pause.) I can't recollect any conversation, only it was mentioned as having been done. Was any remark made on it ; I don t mean that you should recollect the words* but the substance only ; was there any ^remark made, or any opinion expressed by any person on im 25 r subject ? (After a long pause.) I can't bring any thit>^ t» my mind- Mr. Driscoll said, that the Counsel for Traversers had agreed among themselves not to cross-examine the witnesses, unless on points connected with their respective clients, lest they should unnecessarily occupy the time of the Court. The Attorney-General said, that the Law Officers of the Crown had no objection to any latitude which the Counsel for the Traversers might be inclined to take in the examination, or cross-examination of witnesses, or in speaking to evidence. Cross-examined by Mr, Rolleiton. ' Witness said that he had an office of about 901. a year under Government. Have you any means of support ? None — - Your father ha3also a place under the Government ? He has. Has he any other means of support? He has. What is it ? His profession as an Attorney. Does he practice ? He does whenever he gets it. ( A laugh. ) Did your father take out a license this year ? I can't say. You have a brother who was examined here yesterday, has he any place ? He has no place. Does he expect one ? I can't form an opinion on the subject. You would not like t© lose your own place? I would not. Don't you hold it at ths will of the Government? I can't answer that question* Don't you think that the Government would turn you out if they disliked you ? I can't say how far they would. Don't you believe it ? I can't answer that ques- tion — I am not sure. Don't you think in your own mind that great deal depends on your swearing this day for your holding your own situation, and for your father holding his ? I can't say. What is your belief? What is the reflection in your, own mind f No answer. Witness — Repeat the question — Don't it depend on your swearing this day, whether you and your father will hold your places — that is, whether that is not the belief in your own pure mind? (A laugh.) — It was not under such an impression I came here. Eut can you form any opinion. Upon your oath don't you think that your place would be more secure if your evidence could convict the traversers? It is a thing I can't give you any answer on ; I never thought of it before. Had you any place before this which you now hold ? I had. Were you turned out of it ? I lost it when it was abolished. (A laugh) I was not turned out of it. (A laugh.) But you got no com- pensatioa? (A laugh.) No (A laugh.) You came here to •wear conspiracy against the traversers and others ? I came here to give testimony. Are you not come here to swear that a con- spiracy was formed ? I came here to give testimony. WiU you not answer me ; on your oath are you not come to swear •o ? , I came here to give testimony ; I do not know whether it is a conspiracy i I am not sufficiently learned ia the- law to 26 know that. But having a place under Government you would not enter into any conspiracy against the Government — a man So pure as you are would not do so ? (A laugh.) Not know- ingly or willingly. I know you would not ; you, a pure man, •would not enter into a conspiracy. (A laugh.) — But would you, having a place under the Government, and a man of such purity, would you associate with conspirators against that Go- vernment ? Not knowingly ; I would not. I know you ixere a good subject. ( A laugh.) Were you not often with Forbes ? I was often in his company. Did you dine with him last Sunday ? Not lately. But you supped with him ? No. Did you with M'Cullagh ? Not with M'Cullagh. You are fencing with me did you dine with any -of them ? I mean any of the persons included in the charge of conspiracy? Not one of them. Were you drinking with them ? I was. j[ A laugh.) When ? On ia?t Sunday evening. Are you not'on most in- timate habits of friendship with Forbes ? I have been. Surely you that hold places under the Government, would not asso- ciate with Forbes, if you did not think him a loyal man ? I would not. So I think. And so I did. Frora % the intimate knowledge you have of him, would not you convict him of loyalty? I would certainly. (A laugh.) Do you think that there is ^ man on earth more attached to his Sovereign and Government, than Forbes ? I think there is no man. You would tind him guilty of that? (A laugh.) Yes, if it was a crime, (A laugh.) Mr Rolleston. Sometimes it appears that it is a crime to be loyal... (loud laughing and clapping of hands in several parts of the Court.) Will you inform me what situation you hold in the Orange Lodge ? I am a Deputy Master of a Lodge — ( A laugh) You are only approaching to the purple. ( A laugh.) I ask you if yon had any rank ; I ask you what rank you hold in the Lodge ? Deputy Master. Is your brother of any rank? He is Secretary. Y r ou and your brother must have con- siderable influence in the Lodge? I can't say we have. (A laugh.) What! You a Deputy Master, and not have influ- ence ? I have not any influence. (A laugh.) 1 am not speak- ing of what you have novo ; but had not you considerable influ- ence ? I can't say I had. Now did they elect you, not having any influence? no answer. 1 suppose they did not know yov at that time as well as they do now? (A laugh.) no answer. You say you have had no influence. On your oath I ask you if you had ? I can't say I had. As you mentioned something about the Shakespeare, I presume that, as the Master of the Lodge, you did not quit it sober? (A laugh.) no answer. Were vou quite sober at the opening of the Lodge. ( A laugh) Jhere'was no Lodge there at all. It was half past 12 o'clock when you w-ejat ; did^you uet communicate to tiiejn something? M I forget. Who went for Handwich? I did. For what pirN pose ? According to the instructions which I received from Mr. Stoker and Mr. Heron, I went to Handwich. Did you com- municate to them what instructions you received? I did. When you came in, was there a Lodge held that night ? The Attorney General. What night do you speak of ? Mr. Rolleston. Thursday night. Witness. I don't think there was a Lodge held that night. But you had some conversation about making the Lord Lieute- nant unpopular ? I joined in the conversation. Did you not lead this conversation? no answer. Don't you know the Mas* ter leads ? (A laugh) I did not ; I joined in the conversation. Mr. Stoker and Mr. Heron were there? Yes. Did you not join in the plot f I did. Did you assent to every syllable of it § I did not then look to the evil tendency of it. What ! You, * loyal man, holding places under Government, did you join in the plot ? I did not think any thing about it. But you tell of others, that it was improper to join the plot ? I did not then; think it improper ; I did not act with proper caution at the time. You did not dissuade any of them ? No, Sir. You did not use? your influence to prevent them from carrying their intentions in- to effect f No, I did not then see the evil of it. Might not Forbes and others conceive it to be perfectly innocent at the* time ? I do, Sir, think, that they might have looked on it ia the same light as I did at that time. Mr. Rolleston. That is, in other words, that their mind* were as pure as your own! (A laugh) Can you favor the Jury with any thing you said in the Lodge on the next night f No answer. Forbes did not belong to that Lodge ? No, Sir. Was he not sent for as a visitor ? I believe not. Had you seen Forbes before supper ? I don't recollect f Is not the Lodge always closed before supper ? Always. What did you say when Forbes came in ? No answer. Do you forget ? I do, Sir, Then you can't recollect any thing you said on that night ? (After a pause) No Sir, but if you bring any circumstance to my memory, I can then give you an answer. Mr. Rolleston. You stick to the Italian phrase, non mi recordo falaughj Upon your oath did you dissuade any man from go- ing to the Theatre on that night. No, Sir. D-d you not con- cur ? I did. Did you advise them not to go, by telling them it would be improper to go to the Theatre f No Sir. Did you «ay it was improper ? I did not. Who then waS the greatest conspirator ; no answer. Ca laugh ^ If there was a conspirator, who was the greatest conspirator ? I don't know. (a. laugh J Whether was it the master or the scholar ? (a. I&ugh J I was not a master, I was only a deputy master, (a. laugh^ You took the rawneyas treasurer, but like other' great men before you in of- ofice, you kept some of it to yourself ? (a laugh) Did you keep ail? (a laugh) No. But you kept a part? "(a laugh) Iliad 2S only £ -i and I paid £$. for tickets. Then you only kept one pound to yourself — very moderate indeed, (a laugh) I wish all treasurers were as honest as yourself? (a laugh J. Here the Solicitor General desired the witness to explain the transaction, as £3. was only paid for the purchase of tickets. The.witne^s in explanation said — T got 4l. I paid S\. foritic- kets, and I paid one pound to D.ily for spirits for the men. Upon your oath did you not keep some of the money ? I doh't think I dicl^ I cant immediately say but that there might be some trifling balance — fa. laugh ) Answer my question ? I don't know whether there was any remaining in my hands a^te:- I paid Daly for the spirits. You sent them to buy tickets? I gave them money. Did you not give directions- to buy the tickets ? No, Sir, they were capable of knowing what to do — we were speaking of the business. For what purpose did you give the money ? To purchase the tickets. Did you not stand outside of the play-house door till the tickets were bought? I did. Who got the tickets then ? I got ^he tickets, and I handed them over, according to the instructions I had received, to Handwich. You did not at the time endeavour to dissimde Handwich from going f No. Now as far as we have gone, who is the greater conspirator of the two ? I can't say ? Is there not informations against all the persons ? I can't say. Who bought the whistles ? I only bought some of them. Quite innocent indeed! How much money did yon pay for the whistles. I- forget. Mr. Rolleston. Another forget -gentlemen, (a laugh) How many whistles did you buy ? Forbes and I bought six or seven whistles. Who were they given to? They were given to the men in Dily's. Did you not desire them to use the whistles ? I begged and requested them not to bring any sticks with them. Del you not desire them to use the whistles ? I did, but I desi- red them not to bring sticks. Had you a whistle ? I had not. Had you any whistle ? I had not. Had you na whistle ? (a pausej W.iat had you ? do you forget — another Non mi recorder (& laugh^ I had nothing particular about me ? What were you doing in tSe Theatre that night ? I can't say. Do you forget what vou were doing in the Theatre ? Another No?i mi recordo. fa. laugh ,1 — seventeen forgets— (a laugh) Look up at the Jury and tell them what you were doing in the Theatre ? I joined them in some part of the proceedings. Had you a rattle ? I had not. Can you whistle on your linger ? fa. laugh ) Come, tell me what part did you take in the proceeding — my dear friend look up — (a laugh) I joined in some part of the noise when they cried out 1'oY the " Boyne Water." How did you join them ? I clapped my hands. You are fond of " the Boyne Water," but you did not join them against the X^ord Lieutenant ? No. Why ? I was rather timorous. ' The recollection of youi^ place made you timorous — you were afraid to lose it ? Some- thing of that came across my mind. At what time did you leave the play-honse. I don't believe I left it till all was" over, 29 Mr. Rollestone — The play was finished, and the farce was over, but we had another since, and a great part of it is a farce ; you say that you went to another place ; you went to a tavern, that is, you went to a place which we call '• a finish- ing ?" I did. (A laugh.) Come tell me what were you doing there ? Forbes was quite angry that he should be arrested— was he not ? He was. He was flushed — was he not ? He was. He was inveighing against the Lord May Gr? He was. You were quite sober that night? I was pretty sober. I asked you about the state you were in for three nights, and you told me that on the first you were not quite sober — that , on the second, that you were pretty sober, and that you were pretty sober on the third night — now, Sir, tell me were any toasts given — did Forbes give any toast ? He did. What was the first toast ? I forget the first toast. On your oath was it not " the King?" I believe he did give the King- Did he not give it with three times three — that surely was not disloyal. (A laugh.) Did not Forbes drink the King with all his heart and with all his soul ? He did. Did he not give the Duke of York and the Army as the next toast ? I forget. Non mi recordo again; but I will not let you forget ; on your oath do you forget? I do. Did he not give '* the Glorious, Pious, and Immortal Memory," with three times three ? He did. Did any man ever give it with more animation ? He did. Did he not give it with rapture ? He did. Did he not give the Glorious Constitution under which we live ? II » gave the Protestant Ascendancy. Did he not give the Glori- ous Constitution in Church and Stete ? He did. How long did "he stay there ? (After a pause) — we must have waited some time, for we supped. Did he not say that no true Orangeman could be so wicked as to throw that bottle ? I think he said something to that effect. Cross-examined by Mr. Scriven for Mr. Brovctilotc. How long are you an Orangeman? From 1818. You are well acquainted with their principles and declarations ? I am. Is it one of their principles to support, tojthe utmost of their* power, the King and his Majesty's Government? It is to that effect. Is it not a part to support the Constitution and the laws of the Country ? Yes. Is it not also a part to maintain the succession to the throne to his Majesty's illustrious house ? Being Protestants it is. Is it not also a part, to defend person and property against fraud, violence, and ^injustice, and to maintain the peace of the Country ? It is. Is fit not a part to be always ready to assisrthe civil and military power in the just and legitimate discharge of their duties? It is. And to support the honor of King William of glorious memory ? It is. And to support the true religion 'of the Country as es- tablished in these realms ? It is. Are not these your princi* 11 3® pies f Yes, Sir. Do you not take an oath to be faithful to the King, and to bear true allegiance to him to the utmost of your power? Yes You took that oath? I did. All the persons implicated here this day have taken the same oath ? I suppose they did ; I saw some of them take it. What place did you hold? 1 held several. Did you take the oath of al- legiance in any one of them ? In the last I did. Your bro- ther was at the meeting on Saturday f Yes. You did not hear any agreement for a watch-word ? I did not. You were as bound as others ? I was. Did you know any thing about your brother's scruples ? Not until a few days ago. Did he communicate to you his scruples ? Not at the time. Y r ou say you thought it innocent to do all the acts which you men- tioned ? I beg pardon ; I said that I did not look into the fcvil tendency of it then. Was not your brother of the same way of thinking ? I had no reason to suppose the contrary. Do you know the public Paper called The Warder? I do. Do you ever read it ? Sometimes. You read jtonce a week f No always; sometimes I read it. Cross-examined by Mr. Speer, on bfhalf of Henry Hahdwick, Did you see any person in the gallery you knew ? I saw Henry Handwich. Here Mr. Scriven, handing a newspaper to the witnes?, asked him whether he had ever seen the passage which wa3 marked in it ? The witness said he had read it. The paper, after having been marked by one of the officers of the Court, was handed to the Jury. Cross-examination resumed by Mr. Speer. Where in the gallery was Henry Handwich ? I think he was sitting in the centre ; but I am not sure whether he was fitting in the centre, or on one side. Did you see any thing with him ? I saw nothing but a stick ? Will you venture to swear that he had even a stick f I do. Did he do any thing offensive to the Lord Lieutenant ? I saw him do nothing "offensive to the Lord Lieutenant. Nothing ? Nothing. Cross-examined by Mr. North. Was it a part of your agreement to assault or offer per- sonal violence to the Lord Lieutenant? None at all. Did you not advise the persons not to bring sticks f I did. Did you not give the advice lest violence should take place ? I was not afraid of violence being offered to the Lord Lieutenant ; but lest there should be a row in the upper gallery. Woultf you swear that it was the intention of any of the persons, to offer persqnal violence to the I^ord Lieutenant f I would almost swear the contrary. Question by a Juror. — You said a bottle was taken to the Theatre ? No ; I said that the bottle was taken out of the room from the house. You can't swear it was taken to th@ Theatre f I cannot. * 9 1 The Solicitor- General here requested io know what the witness had said; and on referring to the evidence, it ap- peared tl. at be had said, that the bottle had been taken from t he house, but not that it had been taken to the Theatre. Mr. John Lambert xvas sveorn. — Examined by Mr. Serjeant Lefroy. Witness said that he was in the pit of the Play-house on the night the Lord Lieutenant was insulted ; he was there before the Lord Lieutenant entered the Theatre ; he observed pla- cards, or little handbills, about the house, but he did not get one of them ; he saw a person handing the handbills about ; would know the person again. Here the witness identified William Graham, after having first desired Graham to take off a pair of temple spectacles ; he saw William Graham also busily engaged in hissing and groaning ; Win. Graham began first to hiss and groan on the entrance of the Lord Lieutenant'into the Theatre; William Graham also repeated the same things during the night; he was doing so during the first two or three acts of the play; witness saw Graham communicating with a number of per- sons who were employed in the same WM% in hissing and groaning ; witness also saw them communicating with Graham ; witness did not see any other person in the pit except Graham, distributing the hand-bills ; witness heard a great noise in the Theatre on that night by the hissing and clapping; he also heard the words, " look out boys" often shouted from the gallery ; the Lord Lieutenant was hissed and groaned ; witness heard them crying out, " a groan for Wellesley ;" witness also heard whistling in the gallery; witness said that the hand- bills which were distributed were printed hand-bills. In answer to Mr. North, who cross-examined the witness, he said that he lived in Chamber-street, and that he had not the honor to be an Orangeman ; that he was a Catholic by religion ; witness was in the house about half an hour before the Lord Lieutenant entered; he sat on the fourth, or fifth, or sixth seat from the stage ; William Graham was standing before witness, but witness cannot say whether he was one, two, or three seats distant ; he saw hand-bills dropped from the lattices, but it was after Graham had distributed hand- bills ; after the hand-bills dropped from the lattices, the people in the pit picked them up, but witness did not get one, as every person was so eager to get them ; witness saw Graham bring some in his hand into the pit and distribute them ; on his oath, he saw hand-bills in the pit before the hand-bills dropped from the lattices ; he could not describe any of the hand-bills because he did not get one. Witness swore, in answer to a question from Mr. North, that he saw Graham distribute 4 one, two, or three hand- bills, before tks 52 hand-bills dropped from the lattices ; never saw Graham be- fore that night ; nobody ever told witness that Graham is an Orangeman, but he believes him to be one ; witness clapped when the Lord Lieutenant entered the house ; William Gra- ham did not join in the cheers when the Lord Lieutenant entered the house ; the Lord Mayor came in before the Lord Lieutenant. Witness, in answer to a question from Mr. North, who asked whether he would swear that when Gra- ham bissed, he was not hissing the Lord Mayor, but the Lord Lieutenant ; said that Graham hissed the Lord Mayor before the Lord Lieutenant entered the house ; witness saw Graham until the third act ; witness did not disclose the in- formation until he was sent for by Major Sirr ; he thinks that the information had been conveyed to Major Sirr by witness*! tailor, a Mr. Lane. Here Mr. North said, your tailor then stitched up the story for you. {A laugh.) j Witness did not tell Lane that it was Graham, because he did not know the name then; he gave a description of the man who was taken up, in consequence of the description of the man who was taken up, inl consequence df the descrip- tion ; Graham wore no spectacles in the Theatre. Q. Had you a stick in your hand ? No sir. Q, Then you left it at home ? No, Sir ; I never carry one* Question by a Juror— Might not the hand-bills have fallen in another part of the house ? I saw them in the hands of Graham when he came Into the house. Question by the Court. — How soon did you describe Graham in the Police Omce ? On the Monday- week fol- lowing. Mr. John Rooney^ sworn. Witness carries on the brewing business ; was in the Theatre the night of the I4?th of last December, in the lower gallery ; was in the front row of the gallery, on the right hand side ; he had an opportunity of seeing the upper gallery ; witness obser- ved in the upper gallery a groupe of persons rushing into the gallery and shouting; he saw creeks, or watchmen's rattles, in the hands of some of those persons ; he saw persons use those, but he does not know their names ; he saw a knot of persons behind him in the gallery, and some of them had sticks under their coats; the sticks were short, and heavy in the bead; all the sticks were alike: he saw one or two sticks of the same kind in the upper gallery ; after he entered the house there were groans for the Lord Mayor — groans for the house pf Wedesley, from the upper gallery ; there was a clap for Sheriff Thorpe, and a clap for the calf's head — (a laugh ) Q. What do you mean by the calfs head. Counsel for the Travel sers objected to the question, whiffy was over-ruled 35 Witness saw hand bills thrown ; there was one thrown dow* -on the side of the Lord Lieutenant's box ; when the Lord Lieutenant entered the Theatre, there wasapirtial groan and a general clap ; Sir Stewart Bruce took up the bill that fell isto the Lord Lieutenant's box ; witness did not interfere in an}' manner until there was a groan for the house of Wellesley ; witness then stood up and cried " shame, shame," some persona behind witness then cried out to others to knock witness down ; he observed something flash across his eyes, and ic struck the drop curtain on the stage, two or three feet from the Lord Lieutenant's box. It made a sort of dingt in the curtain, and having raised up part of the curtain, it fell and rolled towards the Jigbts ; he thought it was a bottle, before the musician took it up ; witness was looking towards the Lord Lieutenant's box when it flashed before bis eyes, in its passage through the space between him and the lights on the stage - T he saw it was a bottie when the musician took it up. Cross-examined by Mr. DriscolL Did you not say that you saw the object just glance before your eyes? Just glance — no, Sir. What! will you say that you do notssiy so? I think I did not say so, but as you say it, I suppose I did. Did you say so ? I suppose I did. Will you swear it it true ? The Chief Justice — The witness did not say just glanced across his eyes — the witness explained, that while he was looking towards the Lord Lieutenant's box, the object caught his eye as it passed towards the lights. Question by Mr. Driscoll — How did you continue to see the short sticks when you told us a while ago that the sticks were under their coats?. When the Gentlemen they called Mr. Johnston was coming up to the gallery, they were pulling out the sticks before he came up. The Attorney General, looking at Mr. Driscoll — Do you hear that ? ' Mr. Driscoll— ~I am quite satisfied with the answer. What is your business? The brewing business. Are yo* »ot convinced that when tradesmen turn out for particular wa- ges, persons who will not join them in the combination are beat for not joining them, and are not men obliged to carry serious weapons for their own protection ? I believe so. When cross-examined by Mr. Perrin, the witness said that it was not unusual to see a rush into all parts of the house, or to hear shouting or hissing. There was a great deai cf groaning and hissing for the Lord Mayor; the Lord Lieutenant was well received, with the exception of two or three parts of the house : the noise was particularly violent at the latter part of" the play ; the Lord Lieutenant bowed to the Lord Mayor, and expressed his disapprobation of the hissing, and then "there was a £ioa* S4 for tie house of \Veiie^ey ; some person called him . . Question by Mr. Justice Jebb. — Was it before the play or af- ter it, the bottle was thrown ? Previous to the commencement of the farce, while the ^orchestra was playing " God save the King." Gilts O'Brien sworn — zxamined by Mr. Green, Witness was in the Theatre the night of the 14th December last, in the upper gallery, on the left side ; witness observed sticks and hissing in the gallery, the hissing was fo:- the Lord Lieutenant & the Lord Mayor ; between the play and the farce he heard some cry out for " the Protestant Boys" and " the Boyne Water," and he heard some call the Lord Mayor ') a bloo- dy Papist;" he believed some called the Lord Lieutenant " a bloody Papist ;" the witness was desired not to say so unless he was sure ; he said he was quite sure that they called the Lord Lieutenant " a bloody Papist:" he heard some say, "look out, look out," and answer " we are here;" he observed one person in particular whom he would know, with a short stick; there, were several with short sticks about half- a-yard long: could not identify any of the Traversers ; witness saw one man in the act of throwing, and be saw a thing passing down by the side of the lattices ; he did not see what it struck ; it was between the play and farce when in was thrown. John Eastham sworn— examined by the Attorney-General. Witness was at the Theatre on the night of the 1 1th De- cember, when the Lord Lieutenant was in it ; witness was in the upper gallery, the right-hand side ; witness saw a person striking With a stick on the front of the gallery, and calling out "no Popish Lord Lieutenant"— " no Popish Governor.* The person who cried out so, was, apparently, a tall man ; he was sitting. Witness identified Henry Handwich, and saidlie never ""saw him before or since the night he was at the Iheatre ; witness has no doubt of his person ; witness did not know the man who was sitting next in the Court to Mr. Farren. (That man was Matthew Handwich.) Witness said there was a great deal of noise ; but no part of it was made by witness*; Henry Handwich joined in the groans, and he seemed to be the most conspicuous. To the- best of witness's opinion, there must have • en one hundred persons engaged m the disturbances, and belonging to that party; they had large sticks, with knobs on them ; the length of witness's arm, with knotb on them as big as witness's list ; witness was alarmed, and expressed a tfish to a friend to get out of the house; but as lie had no means of getting out, he proposed to get into the iriddle gallery ; there were persons beating behind him, but lie did not see them ; they were among the party ; they had a Word among themselves— « bok out"-" look out, which thoy used frcqud ltly ; witness knew a person who was among the p.trty ; but that person was not in Court. F 36 Cross-examined by Mr. Arthur Hamilton. Witness was in the Theatre before the Lord Lieutenant arrived ; he sat in the second row ; he was there early, and endeavoured to get forward ; there was groaning and clapping of hands ; the groaning expressed disapprobation ; they who approved, clapped and made a noise.. When the Lord Lieu- tenant came in, he was generally cheered ; it was not at that time that the witness observed Handwich hitting with a stick ; witness did not join in the noise ; witness did not join in the cheering of the Lord Lieutenant ; he did not, on any occasion ; he did not for the Lord Mayor ; he did not for the whole night ; nor hissed any body ; nor take any part whatsoever; he did not clap during the whole night. Q. Did not you clap when the Lord Lieutenant was clapped ?• I did, when he came in, Q, Were you examined before the Grand Jury ? I was. Christopher Moran sworn. — Examined by the Solicitor-General. Witness remembers the night the Lord Lieutenant went to the Theatre ; witness was there in the upper gallery ; wit- ness's attention was directed to a number of persons with sticks, who were hissing and groaning the Lord Lieutenant ; those persons were in the left hand side of the gallery ; there was a large party together, but witness cannot say the number of them-; he observed some persons in particular. [Here the witness identified the two Handwiches ;] he saw Matthew Handwich striking with a stick, and interrupting the perform- ance ; he heard Matthew Handwich propose to groan the Lord Lieutenant ; he heard them cry out " a groan for Popish Welleiley, ' and " no Popish Governor ;" it was Matthew Handwich who cried that ; he saw no weapons but sticks with them ; he saw one person with a rattle ringing it ; he doeTnot think he would know that person again ; he saw no stick with Henry Handwich, but with Matthew Handwich : he saw other sticks there ; there were persons beat that night ; he saw Henry Hand vich behind him, in a party who had a man down, and they were waiting till he would rise in order to beat him : he observed a fight in the left corner, but he can't tell who they were who were fighting.. % Cross-examined by Mr. D?-iscolL What are you ? A painter. Oh L I perceive so — you saw no bottle thrown? No* You were observing the two men shouting ? There were other men shouting, but I observed those two men, in particular, shouting ; witness was with those two persons at the door, and went up to the gallery with them ; but witness stopt to buy a ticket in the passage ; they went up without buying any ; witness did not see tickets with them ; witness was with those two persons at the door; they were particular persons in their appearance, and witness 57 observed them ; witness sat in the centre of the gallery, but the two persons, the Handwicbes, were about midway be- tween the left hand wall and the centre ; the first time the witness saw the bottle was when it was in the fist of the musi- cian : witness saw a stick in the hand of Matthew ; but he does not know whether Henry had a stick or not. A dusky light reaches that gallery ? It is a very good light. Is it not rather dusky in comparason to the rest of the house ? It is, Suppose that you were in the part of the lattices, as a Gen- tleman like you ought to be, ought not you to be able to distin- guish a person by the light? What light ? Will you swear there is no light at the lattices ? I do not know whether there is or not. Were you jjoften in the Theatre ? I can't swear whether there are any lights near the lattices. You won't swear that there are lights near the lattices ? I could not swear. Is this the first time you have been examined on the subject ? I was examined at the police-office ; I was exami- ned by Mr. Gabbed, and by the Grand Jury. Now, by the virtue of your oath, when I asked you whether you had been. examined before, did you think I meant the Grand Jury ? I was before the Grand Jury for two or three minutes ; they a^ked me did I see the man throw the bottle? I said no. They asked did I see the man throw the stick ? I said no — I was going to explain what I did see, but they told me that was enough, and showed me out. (A strong sensation was manifested in every part of the Court at the declaration thus made by the witness.) Cross-examined by Mr. Speer. Have you oeen in the upper ( gallery before that night ? Yes. When the Lord Lieutenant is expected to go to the Theatre, is not the house generally crowded ? Yes. Was it a full house when you were there? Yes. It is not an unusual thing to see a boxing, or a fighting match in the upper gallery ? No You say you saw Henry Handwich, and that he was enga^c-d in a boxing match with some person ; did not that person know him ? I don't know. You said that he had no stick in his band ? I said I would not swear that he had a stick. Did you ever see a stick in the upper gallery before ? I don't think I ever did. Mr. Michael Farre.l, sveorn. Were you in the Theatre on the night the Lord Litutenant was there ? I was. Look at that part of the Court and tell me whether you know the name of any person there who was at the Theatre on that night ? I saw Henry Handwich there. In what part of the house? In the upper gallery. How near were you to him. At different parts of the evening, I was sometimes nearer to him than at others ; he moved about. — you ? No, but at one time there was a disturbance, and ss I moved. How distant were you from him? There were about two between us ; in point of fact there was but one> but there might be two between us. Did you observe Handwich doing any tiling ? I did What was it ? After the hst act of the comedy was over — after the Play was over, there was a noise in the house ; I saw Handwich take a bottle and throw it from him. Was there any noise then ? There was hooting and noise. What kind of noise ? There was a groan for Wellesley, but I did not mind it much. How far was Hand* wich distant then from you ? He was distant as far as that Gentleman is. (Here the witness pointed to a Gentleman who was distant about a yard from the witness. — How did he throw the bottle ? He flung it in a half round, with a sweep, under his arm ; I don't know whether I am correct in the expression I use; he flung it this way.— (Here the witness showed the manner by moving his arm.) — Could you judge at what part of the house it would get? As far as I can judge it would go to the left hand part of the house. Did you see any thing of it afterwards ? I did ; they were standing in the seat before me and it was only now and then that I could perceive the stage ; after the bottle was thrown, I saw it held up by one of the musicians. Had Handwich any company with him? There was a numberof persons together with him. Did you observe any thing they were doing ? They were nois)', with sticks in their hanus. What kind of sticks ? White sticks, with large lumps at the end and about half a yard long. What did you seeHandwich doing when he was among those persons ? He was in conver- sation with them. What was their conduct 9 It was riotous. They were calling names, but I did not take any particular notice of them. What were the names $ A hoot for Wellesley & Eastern Tyrants. Did you take any notice of Handwich then ? I did not take any particular notice except that he was rioting with others. How soon was Handwich arrested that night ? Just as the curtain drew up, just as the afterpiece began. Did he move from the place where he threw the bottle, in the inter- mediate time ? He did not. Did you lose sight of him f Never. (This answer of the witness was pronounced with great solemnity.) I never did. When they came to arrest him was there not some confusion ? There was. How did it happen that you never lost sight of him ? Because I was determined never to lose sight of him till I should have him in custody ; I followed him down the street, and went with him into the police-office and staid there till I [was put out, when I ; told them that I knew something of the matter. What hour was it then ? It w T as about half past eleven when I was put out of the police-office. How did that take place? I followed him into the board-room, and I told the officer " I know more of this than you are aware of," and he then turned me out.— • Did you ever know Handwich before? I never saw Hind- v. jch before ; I was born in this Country, but I lived in London from the age of two or three years old. What is your business? A working Jeweller. Cross-examined by Mr. Blackburn. Have you any interest in this trial ? Xone in the least. You made two attempts to give your informations — tell me when they were — the first, I believe, was on Saturday night — was it not? It was. And the second was on Sunday — was it not? It was. Did you go anytime else to give informa- tions? I went to the Castie. Oh, then, instead of twice, you attempted to give informations three times ; is that the case? Here the Courr interfered, and said, that the witness did not understand Mr. Blackburne, in consequence of Mr. Blackburne having used the word " information' in a technical sense, and the witness having understood it in its colloquial acceptation. Mr. Farrell was desired to explain what he understood by the word information ; and when Mr. Farrell told what he understood by the word, it appeared that the court was right in its opinion. Mr. Blackburne asked the witness whether he had been exa- mined before the Grand Jury ? witness said that he had ; wit- ness was then asked whether he disclosed to any person the ex- amination which had taken place before the Grand Jury — He said that he told what had been asked to several persons — to a Mr. Hill, and to a Mr. Gordon, and to several others. He was then asked, whether he knew how it happened that an account of several parts of his examination before the Grand Jury ap- peared in the Courier Newspaper, of the 4th of January last ; witness said that he believed Mr. Gordon sent to the Courier Newspaper that account, as he had asked witness to state the particulars, and that witness did so in a desultory manner, im- mediately after his return from the Grand Jury Room. So you went to him to get the particulars inserted in the Courier ? I did not — he came to me. How did you get acquainted with him ? I had the pleasure of knowing him several years ago in London. But you gave it to a Reporter ? I did not — he was then the Editor of the Correspondent Newspaper. Mr. Blackburne read a part of the account which appeared in the Courier^ and asked the witness if it was true, as the statement in the Courier declared that he had said before the Grand Jury that Flandwich had flung the bottle with an exten- ded arm. The witness said that the account was so far true, and he described the manner in which it was thrown by extending his arm. Mr. Blackburne. And do you call that an extended arm ? Witness. I do. The Attorney General. And what else would you call it? 40 Cross examined by Mr. Scriven, for Henry Handmch and JVm. Brotvnlutv. Q. What Magistrate did you see when you went to the police- office ? There was none. Did you see no officer?' I did, and I told him that I knew more of it than he knew before he turned me out? Djyou swear he tamed you out? He did not deny it himself. Upon your oath, after you came out did you say that you had been sworn, and that you bad done his business for him? Never, (with great emphasis) Did you say so on Sunday morning ? So. Did you say on Sunday morning any thing of what had passed, to anybody ? I did not. Did you .say that you were glad to be revenged of the Orangemen ? I never did, ( with a solemn emphasis.) Did you say that you would be revenged, or any word, or words to that effect? Ne- ver, {with a solemn emphasis. ) I did net, (with emphasis). Did jbvl walk through the crowd, and say any thing ? I saw- no crowd ; I saw only two men that I took notice of. You said nothing when you were near the two men : do you swear thai? I swear that. I said nothing derogatory to the character of Orange- men. Where did you go then after leaving the police-office ? I went to Mrs. Booth's, in Exchequer-street. T© Exchequer- street ? No, I have made a mistake ; I went to Mr. Hill's, Mrs. Booth's son-in-law, in the North-strand. When did you go home? I did not go home until after I went to the North-strand. ■ — Did you say that you were glaa that you had sworn against Handwich; I ask you, Sir, on the oath you have taken ? I ne- ver said so • (with great solemnity ) — never (with great empha- sis) from the time I left the office up to this moment. Who was with you when you left the police-office, and where did you o;o ? From the office I went with Mr. Hill to his house in the North- strand? Did you say any thing on thesubject to him? He had heard what had passed, and I only said to him that it was onlv a duty which J owed to the public to come forward. You swore that you did' not say that you would be revenged of the bloody Orangeman or Orangemen ; or utter any word to that e jfect? I swore I did not say so. ■ Was there any other person with you ? Nobody but Mr. Hill. Did you not say something to Mr. Hill derogatory to the Orangemen ? I did not. Did you stop at any place ? We made no stand. Cross-examined by Mr. Driscoll. Did you ever preach to any religious congregation. (A laugh.) Never. Tie hief Justice asked what was that, as he could not hear the answer, on account of the laughing in the Court. The answer was repeated, and his Lordship noted it down. Cross-examined by Mr. borth. Yru were examined before the Grand Jury, and you gave an account of it to Mr. Gordon j am I to understand from it you, that as far as you entered into that account it was cor- rect ; I mean as Tar as you entered into the account which yuu gave to Mr. Gordon ? I told him as near as I could the particulars at the time he was with me. I rake it for granted, that you told the truth to the Grand Jury, and that i:i this, account which you gave to Mr. Gordon, as a representation of what had occurred in the Grand Jury-room ; you were as particular as you were in the Grand Jury-room f I was not so particular to Mr. Gordon as I would be before the Grand Jury. As that was only a short time after, and your recoiSec- tion must have been as good then as before? I told nothing but the truth ; I recollect the facts now as well as A then. Did you in representing those facts to Mr. Gordon, tell him that it was on the left side, as stated in the Courier newspa- per ? Whatever I said to Mr. Gordon, which was but very short, and in a hurried meaner, I told him the truth. Did that statement about V the left side," enter into your repre- sentation of the fact ? I have no recollection now, of what I told Mr. Gordon then but I told him in a hayfy manner nothing but what was true. Did Mr. Gordon ask you any question of what you had seen in the Theatre? He did not. So then he had not the curiosity of asking you any question on the subject ? He asked me what I had been asked in the Grand Jury-room, and I gave him a short account of it. Would not a man of your size strike the dip of the gallery if you stood up ? I can't well say how high the dip is. Is it six feet — is it five feel ? I don't exactly know, but I believe it is about the height of a man standing. If that is the fact, how could he have thrown a bottle ? Very easily, for in the way in which the bottle was thrown, he could not touch the dip. If he threw a bottle in a slanting manner, would he not hit the cornice — it he threw it perpendicularly over his head, would he not have struck the dip, and if he threw it with a jerk, underneath, must he not have hit the seat ? He took the botile, and he sent it neither up nor under, but in this manner — ( 4ere the witness, by a motion of his arm, showtd the manner in which the bottle was flung.) Re-examined by Mr. Le/roy. There were no persons crowded towards the centre at the time ; is that the fact V There were more persons in the centre than in the other pares of the house; where Hundwich stood when he threw the bottle, was less in the observation of the hou>-e than in the centre. Mr. Philip P. Ryan, svoorn — examined by Mr. Serjeant Torrens. Witness was in the Theatre the night of the outrage ; witness identified George Graham ; when Graham was made a prisoner, fee gave his nanae as George Graham j Graham was sitting in, 4? the front seat in the upper gallery ; witness took notice of hirn from the noise he made many times with a rattle which he had in his hand during the play ; at the conclusion of the play he made noise; witness did not hear him after; witness saw Gra- ham striking with both the pieces of the wood ; witness saw Graham raise his hand, some time about the singing of the glee, when the Lord Lieutenant was groaned and hissed; he stoA up, looked into the middle gallery, and then he threw the piece ?of the rattle he had in his hand, in the direction •where the Lord Lieutenant was sitting; it appeared to witness to strike the edge of the seat of the box in which the Lord Lieutenant was sitting ; witness was in the middle gallery, and Graham was in the front seat of the upper gallery ; he could see Graham distinctly ; he heard words uttered ; to the best of his recollection, such as " Xo Popish Governor." — u A groan for Wellesley ;" he recollects other expressions ; some were drinking liquor, and gave " The Glorious, Pious, and Immortal Memory;" " The Boyne Water;'* " The Protestant Ascendancy;" some cried out these words, "this night, boys, the gallery is our own ;" witness saw some persons in the up- per gallery with large white sticks ; witness was examined be- fore the Grand Jury in Green-street, and gave the same testi- mony, or what was tantamount to it. Cross-examined by Mt . Hamilton, Witness was in the fourth or fifth seat of the middle gallery ; lie gave his informations at the police-office, on the following morning ; he spoke then with equal certainty, and in distinct terms ; he said that he recognized the man in the watch-house ; before witness saw the prisoner he gave a description of the prisoner to a man who appeared to be a constable in the watch- house ; he asked in the watch-house if there was a prisoner there with a sallow complexion, and a dark-coloured, or dark -mixture coat ; witness said it was a large outside coat, but cannot recollect ; witness is in the Excise department, and stationed in the County Galway ; he is a Preventive Officer of Excise; some persons in similar situations have a wetk'y a'lowance to their commissions, bat witness has none ; witness is not looking for promotion, but has leome to town for some reward that is due to him ; he got part of it, and has an expectation of getting the ballance ; the reason why he did not get all, was this — there is a regulation in the board, that no person in the situation which witness holds, shall act with- out the presence of the local officer ; and as witness made a seizure without the presence of the local officer, he was not entitled to the reward. The case was referred to the Inspec- tor General, and witness was told that the report of the In- spector-General was, that it- should be better- if witness had acted with the local officer. It was afterwards referred to Mr. Swift, but Mr, Swift has cot as yet reported on the ease. 43 The sum of money then which you are looking for, hfcs not been granted ? No, not as yet, but I expect it, as I zealously performed my duty. The Chief Justices — Unless you can bring it to a point, it seems to me that as far as the witness has gone as yet, that he has explained the transaction most satisfactorily. Upon the claim were you examined upon oath ? There was no occasion. That is no answer. I was sworn; 1 am looking for the remainder *>f the reward, if it meets the ap- probation of the Board. Dr. Bernard M'Namara stvorti* Q. What profession are you ? Doctor of Physic. Witness lives at Balliuakill, in the Queen's County ; witness was in town the night the Lord Lieutenant went to the Theatre ; witness was in the middle gallery ; recollects a good deal of the disturbances in the house on that night* The persons ia upper gallery uttered several offensive, gross, and scurrilous expressions against the Lord Mayor— they called him " the Knave of Clubs." (A laugh.) " No Popish guards in Col- lege-green." (A laugh.) They afterwards uttered other words, such as-, a clap for Lord Talbot, a clap for Lord J> Neil, and a clap for Alderman Darley. They cried out no Popish Governor; witness observed something about a bottles he heard a boy's voice calling out " boy's mind your fire ;'* witness got alarmed and stood up; witness looked to the upper gallery, at the extremity of which the witness saw a man wind his arm, out-top the persons in the front seat, and fling something from him ; witness watched it in its transit ; when it passed the orchestra, some persons in the front seats started up ; when they stood up they intercepted the view, and' witness lost sight of it. There was then a cry of down in the front; when the person sat down witness saw the bottle when it was taken up by the musician. (Here wit- ness identified Henry Handwich, and declared that he had never seen the traverser from that night till witness came into Court this day ;) witness has no doubt about Handwich, if he can believe the evidence of his senses. Cross-examined by Mr. Scriven. Did you hear any other words ? I did. In the scene of Toney Lumpkin at the table, some body called out to Lislon, to drink " The Glorious, Pious and Immortal Memory."— (a laugh) — You said that all the expressions were scurrilous and offensive ? did not you say that they were all scurrilous and offensive expressions to the Lord Mayor? Is a clap. for Lord O'Neil a scurrilous expression to the Lord Mayor? (a laugh.) Is a clap for Alderman Darley a scurrilous expres- sion to the Lord Mayor ? (a laugh ) By the Court.— That is a mistake .of yours— the man said no such thing. e *4 Mr, Scrlven repeated his assertion. Court — Nothing like that was said. Mr. Justice Jebb read his notes. Cross-examination resumed. Witness admitted that he had been put in confinement for an alleged breach of pound ; witness did not break open the pound ; there was a man with witness who opened the pound gate, which was hanging on one hinge — (a laugh)— and he took it up and drove out tlje cattle. ( Heie witness wished to explain the nature of the transaction, but the Counsel for the Traversers would not let him.) Witness did not break open the pound ; witness did not indict a man for it ; but a man indicted witness. There was cross indictments : The man whom witness indicted was acquitted, and witness was sen- tenced to three months imprisonment, with a fine of £%Q* Witness said that he had only taken out of the pound some cattle which he had sent there as a distress for rent, and he endeavoured to state the particulars, but he was prevented from doing so by the Counsel. He said, however, that he had offered three times the value of the cattle, as a security, to the pound-keeper, before he took them out of the pound. Witness said that he had dined with a friend in Mountjoy- square, and he described to him what had occurred at the Theatre. The witness could not otherwise explain why he was summoned as a witness, as he could not trace it to any other source. Cross-examined by Mr. Speer. Did any body point out this day any person in the Court as Handwich ? No body ; I knew him in the morning when I saw him ; I was standing for a few minutes near the Crier of the Court ; I never saw Handwich since I saw him in the Theatre, but I knew him the moment I cast my eye on him ; witness said that he thought that Handwich had been en the second bench in the upper gallery ; witness was in the middle gallery; witness said, I observed him particularly, because his face and figure were remarkable. Question by the Court* — You came into Court at the close of Farrell's examination? I was not here when Farrell had re- cognized him ; I was only a short time in Court ; I was near the Crier, and nobody was with me. Cross-examined by Mr. North. Witness was in the middle gallery ; can't say exactly on what bench he sat, but his situation commanded a perfect Tiew ; the man whom witness indentified was about the third row of the ga'lery ; witness turned about when he heard the boy say, {t mind your fire ;" that expression excited his atten- tion ; he became alarmed, and he turned about ; there was a man standing with two ladies, who retired then from the 45 gallery ; when witness heard the words, " mind your fire, he did not make any observation to any person near him. You said that you intended to memorial the Government about your confinement, but that you changed your mind ; tell me, Doctor, will you say that you are not influenced in giving your testimony by such a consideration ? As I hope for sal- vation, I have no such motive; I am brought up here in cus- tody ; witness said, that during the examination of Farrell he was outside the door of the Court, so that he could see but indistinctly the witness on the table ; witness was a quar- ter of an hour in the Court, but nothing was then doing ; it was then but nine o'clock. Where were you afterwards ? I was at my breakfast. Do you know Henry Arabin — perhaps you do not wish to know him ? i do not. He pronounced those little things we call a sentence — was he not rather se- vere ? No answer. THIRD DAY— Wednesday, Feb. 5. This morning, the Chief Justice, Judge Jebb, Judge Bur-, ton, and Judge Vandaleur, took their seats on the Bench a few minutes after nine o'clock. The names of the Gentlemen of the Jury were then called over, to which they severally replied. The Traversers were then severally called, and having an-« swered to their names, the examination of evidence was re-, sumed. James Tier nan — examined by Mr. J. S. Townsend. Witness was in the Theatre on the night the Lord Lieut, was there ; was in the upper gallery ; sat in the second seat ; from the conduct of a person who sat before witness ; (he witness) observed him particularly ; that person's name is George Gra_ ham, he kept ringing a rattle and making a great noise ; he sat more to the left of the gallery than the centre; there was a great deal of noise and disturbance in the house throughout the night, but they had the most of the noise in the upper gallery-?— [much laughter]; witness heard the Lord Mayor groaned, and his Ex- cellency was groaned: heard " a clap for the Calf's Head ;" there was a bottle thrown ; it came from behind witness ; can't say who threw it ; saw it go over his head and strike the curtain, saw the head of the rattle thrown, it was the part that turns round, this was thrown the time the farce of Tom Thumb, \m going on, it dropped at the foot of his Excellency's box,: saw Mr. Barton take up a bottle when the rattle was thrown ; wit- nesss cried out ". shame, - shame," and he was struck with a bludgeon from behind ; he received a second blow, and is black still where he was struck, witness thinks the bludgeons they had were made for the purpose ; saw the person who threw the rat- tle taken into custody, never lost sight of him until he saw hiai taken. 46 Cross-examined by Mr. Driscofl. Witness is in the chandling business ; saw the bottle in pas- fling over his head ; has no object in view in giving his evidence, witness did not see who struck him, when he got the first blow on the shoulder, he received another there, (putting his hand ©n his thigh) he then .sat down and took what he got-— a laugh ; there were four corners on the stick, it was as sharp as a lance, , witness felt it more than he ever felt any lance, was never bled by a lance in his life — (great laughter) ; witness gave informati- on on the 26th of December, was afraid to give evidence before, when he saw how it was taken up by the country at large, he took a little courage, he was afraid of being pelted in the|streets, thinks the country at large would prevent his getting a clink atV the corner of a lane : told Mr. Galogiy (a peace officer,) what he . could tell on Christmas eve ; Major rfirr wrote to him on Christ- mas d^y, desiring him to attend the next day ; ^saw the bottle strike the centre of the curtain. Cross-examined by Mr. Scriven. Witness was in the upper gallery on that night ; there was a great crowd ; witness was nearer the left side; often looked about ; saw an immense great crowd ; never saw the upper gal- lery so crowded ; th,e whole way to the back was crowded ; it appeared as if it was packed ; did not see an empty seat ; there was suci a noise round him his ears were bothered/ he did not hear three words of the play ; some of the noise might have came from his (witness) own mouth ; he did not groan or hiss ; he clapped his hands ; that was not with his mouth ; he did not hiss when the Boyne Water or the Protestant Boys was called for ; a smothered sigh might have escaped him ; did not hiss Lord O'Neill, nor clap him; does not like him ; he (Lord O'Neill) never injured witness, nor would he (witness) know him, but he heard he was Grand Master of an Orange Lodge ; did not hear Sheriff Thorpe groaned, but he was often clapped. In answer to a question from one of the Gentlemen of the Ju- ry, this witness said, that when the bottle was thrown he did not hear an)' one call out, " mind your fire," nor any words called out that he would consider as watch-words. Thos. Staunton CaJiill, cross-examined by the Solicitor General' Witness was in the Theatre on the night of his Excellency's visit ; was jjn the lower gallery; saw something pass through the air that night ; saw that it was a bottle ; saw it in its pas- sage over the pit to the stage ; it appeared to have come from behind witness, and from an upper part of the house, by the direction it took. Cross-examined by Mr. JDriscolh Witness is in College, as a Medical Student ; when he saw the bottle moving over the pit, it was going very quickly ; whit drew witness's attention to it, was, he heard a man in the upper gallery ealling out, " Ah, ha, Wellesley/' on turning 47 round and looking up, he saw a man drinking out of a bottle, which he handed round to some persons near him ; some person in the immediate vicinity of this man threw down a card to witness and desired him to take it up and read it ; witness took up this paper and read the words no popeuy ; it was a printed label; on perceiving this, witness again raised up his head; and then it was, that he saw the bottle in its progress ; can't say who threw it ; don't know who the man was that desired witness to read th*. printed label : witness afterwards told what he knew of the circumstance to the Right Hon. the Attorney- General ; witness did not think his evidence would be material, as he did not see who threw the bottle, or could not say at whom it was thrown ; he happened to mention it at a house where he dined, and a gentleman there said that his evidence might be of service in consequence of which he told the Right Hon. Gentleman. Cross-examined by Mr. Perrin. Saw some persons in the gallery,drinking porter, or something like it, out of a bottle ; can't swear if the liquor w T as of a dark colour ; don't recollect ii' the performance was going on at the time ; observed the bottle passing across the pit ; it had reached aborat the centre of the pit when the bottle caught his eye in its progress by the centre of the pit ; witness does not mean mid- way between the side boxes, for it was much nearer the boxes at the left side of the house; by the centre of the pit, witness means mid-way from the gallery to the stage 5 can't say where it struck, as some person stood up at that moment before witness; in its progress it took neither a horizontal nor a perpendicular direction ; it was going obliquely, and was descending rapidly ; it did not seem to be turning over and over, but was going in a direct position. John Crosby Greaves, Police Magistrate, examined by the Attorney- General. Witness was in the Theatre, on duty, on the night Ld. Lieut, was there ; saw Forbes there that night ; witness was in the Theatre at the time the bottle was held up ; he was then in the back part of the box, next to that in which the Lord Lieute- nant sat ; after the bottle had been held up, witness saw For- bes ; when he first saw him that night, he (witness) was in the third tier of lattices, at the side of the house opposite to that at which the Lord Lieutenant sat ; witness had heard a cry of " shame" " shame," and thinking there was something wrong that called for the intervention of a Magistrate, he went to the upper boxes in order to take a survey of the house ; he then saw Forbes immediately close to the spikes of the upper pigeon- holes, at the Lord Lieutenant's side of the house, and imme- diately adjoining the gallery, a great deal of confusion and tu- mult prevailed in that part of the gallery : there were three persons in the pigeon-holes, close to the gallery, who were all using whistles ; witness seeing them with their bands up to thejr 48 mouths, crossed the house and got immediately under them ; he then looked up and saw Forbes still in the act of using the whistle ; there was nothing between the persons in the upper pigeon-holes, and those in the gallery, to prevent a commu- nication between them ; when witness was under Forbes, and saw hirn still using the whistle, he looked up to him and said, " why do you do that, Sir ?" or c * for what do you do that V his answer was " for fun ;" this was after the cries of " shame/* " shame;'' the three persons who were in the lattices had their faces directed towards the gaUery, but witness saw no precise tfommimication between them and the persons in the gallery ; Forbes persevered in using the w r histle, and witness went to take him into custody ; Mr. Tudor went for the saiiie purpose, and was before witness ; Forbes recognised Mr. Tudor as a Magistrate, and consented to go with him ; he kept one of his hands shut, and on being required to open it, did so with some reluctance ; in it was found that whistle. Here Mr. Greaves produced a small whistle, which Mr. Dris- eoll asked permission to see ; whilst this gentleman was examin- ing it, the Attorney -General said to him "I shall give directions to have it sent home to you, Mr. Driscoll, as soon as the trial is over." (Great laughter.) Examination of Mr. Greaves by the Attorney -General resumed. Forbes, on his way to the watch-house, said to witness, " Mr. Greaves I am as loyal a man as any in the community, and as much attached to the King." Witness replied that he did not want to question his loj'alty, but that lie certainly chose an awkward mode of shewing it, by disturbing the house, and insulting the King's Representative; on being asked if bail would be taken, witness said that bail might be taken for Forbes after the play was over ; Forbes said, if you will let me be discharged now, I give vou my honor I will not return to the Theatre ; Mr. Tudor seemed to wish this, and witness agreed to it on his (Mr Forbes's) promise ©f perfecting the bail; witness did not know of his own knowledge who had offered to go bail for Handwich on that night. Cross-examined by Mr. Johnson. Mr. Forbes did not know witness was a Magistrate at the time; he (witness) asked him (Forbes) " why did he whistle? and he said, " for fun ; witness believes there were fifty of the police in the Theatre on that night ; the Magistrates left those details to an Officer in whom they had great confidence, Mr. Farreli ; the directions given were, that the police should go to the Theatre in their own clothes, so as to appear like the rest of the audience ; when Mr. Forbes recognised Mr. Tudor, he told him he would go with him : he seemed anxious to explain his conduct on his passage to the watch house ; witness has no reason to suppose that he did not keep his word, or that he re- turned to the Theatre that night; when witness went to the -iidc latticed to take a view oi the upper gallery, it seemed to 49 him as if there was not a great press there, but rather as if peo- ple were leaving it ; he should suppose the rattle was thrown when he (witness) was out of the house : from the situation he was in, in the house, which was at the back of the box adjoin- ing that in which the Lord Lieutenant sat, he did not hear the noise of the rattle ; there was a great deal of confusion in the house, and it might have occurred, but it did not strike witness's ear ; there were informations taken at witness's office against Forbes ; Mr. Farley's depositions were taken down in the of- fice, and the waiters and servants of Flanagan's in Essex-street. The Attorney General here suggested to the Court, that this course of cross-examination should not be persevered in ; the Chief Justice agreed in the objection urged by the Right Hon. Gentleman, and Mr. Johnson having stated that it was not his intention to draw forth the disclosure of names from the witness, said that he would trouble Mr, Greaves no further. George Harris, Serjeant- Major of the 1th Hussars, examined by Mr. Torrens. Witness was in the Theatre on the night the Lord Lieu- tenant was there, was in the lower gallery ; there was a great disturbance in the upper gallery ; he noticed a person in the front 6eat of the upper gallery, with a rattle, who was par- ticularly noisy the entire night ; would know him again ; there he is between the two Handwiches, (Here the witness pointed out George Graham :) his name is Graham ; he was continu- ally making a noise with the rattle, by turning it round in his hand, and striking it against the front of the gallery ; towards the end of the play, witness saw him break the rattle; after the play, and after the glee, he (witness) saw a piece of wood nearly strike the person of his Excellency ; witness turned round to observe the actions of this Graham ; he then saw him throw another piece of wood in the same direction; don't know where the second piece of wood fell. Witness was examined by the Grand Jury ; one of the Grand Jurors disputed his testimony very much, (great laughter.) Cross-examined by Mr. Hamilton. Witness was not much offended at the Grand Jury ; judged the two pieces of wood thrown to be similar ; thinks they were the two sides of the rattle ; witness s attention was taken up in examining the person of the individual who threw the piece of wood, the way he should know him again, so that he did not see where it fell ; he felt greater anxiety to secure the person of the individual who threw the piece of wood, than to see where the object fell ; witness swore informations the next day ; he went to the Theatre that night solely lor amuse- ment ; had leave of absence until nine o'clock ; staid longer > was a serjeant on that night; is now a serjeaut major ^ was. a serjeant for six years; violated his duty thai night by st*ty- so ing out i was promoted since ; has been engaged in escorting the Lord Lieutenant to and from the country, when with his regiment ; he has been since in the County of Kildare ; quar- ters at no particular house whilst he is in Dublin ; has paid for his dinner every day since, or thinks he will pay for it — (a laugh) ; never dined at the Park in his life; has supped in it ; drank the King's health there ; thinks he could not do a more worthy thing; witness has drank the Glorious and Immortal Memory, but not since that night (laughter) ; has not drank it at the Park ; will take care how he proposes it there the next night -he sups there. In answer to a question from one of the Gentlemen of the Jury, this witness said that " he saw the bottle held up by a person in the orchestra, but that he did not see it thrown." Mr. Charles Skinner examined by Mr. J. S. Townsend. Witness was on the pit door of the Theatre on that night, in order to assist the check-taker, a great crowd being ex- pected ; was on the stage after the play was over ; saw a piece of the rattle lying on the stage; witness drew it oif with a piece of wire ; this was during the last act of the farce. (Here a piece of wood was produced, which the witness identified as being that which he drew off the stage on that Bight.) This witness was not cross-examined. Mr. George Farley, examined by the Attorney-General. Witness is of the profession of an Attorney ; recollects the night of the 14th of December; was not at the Theatre on that night ; was in company with a Gentleman ©n that night, between the hours of ten and eleven o'clock, a Mr. James Troy, Merchant, in Bridge-street; went to a house in Essex- street that night with him, a tavern; had been at Mr. Troy's, %nd went with two ladies to get a carriage, to go to Richmond ; the night was cold, and on returning Mr. Troy and witness went into a tavern in Essex-street, to take a tumbler ; their going to that house was purely accidental ; a good many per- sons had been there, and went out, and some remained ; after witness and Mr. Troy had been sitting there for a short time, a good number of persons came in, in a body, and the place became crowded ; a great number got into the box opposite to where Mr. Troy and witness sat; some stood round them, and they held a conversation amongst themselves, with their head* down ; they remained in that position for some time, commu- nicating privately ; there were about eight or ten persons, or from that to twelve, at that box ; more of that party went up the room ; witness could not hear what passed among them then ; they then dispersed, some went to the lower part of the room ; some, went up stafrs, and some, witness believes, went out ; four remained in the box, these were the two Atkin- sons, Forbes, William Graham and Brownlow ; witness did. not know Forbes's name before. 61 Here the Attorney-General asked this witness if he had been examined before the Grand Jury ? to which he replied, in the most emphatic manner. " indeed I was." Browniow was not in the box with the four witness men- tioned; he sat on a table in an adjoining one. Those persons who came in in a body, seemed to be known to one another ; they conversed together, and talked of the Theatre ; one of them addressed Browniow, and accused him of his not being in his place in the gallery, according to his appointment ; he said he was as well where he was, or where he had been ; the other said, you are a pretty fellow to keep your appointment — you must go to the pit — nothing would do you but the pit ; he ( Browniow) said, that " for the purpose of what was to be done, he was as well where he Mas." Witness thinks the name of the person who addressed Browniow, was M Intosh ; there was a great deal more of conversation among them ; the four ai terward-s retired to another box, to sup ; they talked of the Theatre, and spoke of throwing the bottle and the stick. Here the Attorney- General requested of the witness, that if any indecent expressions were used by any of that party, he would suppress them. The Chief Justice said that he was about to suggest this to the witness. The witness said, that seeing Ladies in the Court, it had been his intention to suppress every thing of the kind. The Attorney- General then told the witness to repeat, sub- ject to the above limitation, whatever he heard any of that party say. The witness resumed. — He heard one of them say, after throwing the bottle and the stick had been spoken of, that «• it was a damned, or a b y miss ;" can't identify the par- ticular person who said it, but is certain that it was said by one of the four ; these four were, the two Atkinsons, James Forbes, and William Graham ; after supper they came back to the box where they had been sitting;. they then called for punch, and commenced giving toasts; they drank the " Glo- rious and Immortal Memory," all the company in the room standing, except Mr. Troy and witness ; the two gentlemen who had been in this box with witness and Mr. Troy, had left the room before witness ; thinks Forbes gave " The Duke of York and the Army ;" Forbes was extremely violent in his manner and expressions; the other three were more peace- able; he (Forbes) appeared to take the lead in every thing; he thumped the table violently, and said w let them transport me, its the worst they can do ; I don't car*.' a damn, provided Papists, and Popish Governments are put down." Forbes also said, " 1 don't care if I am sent to Botany Bay, or to Hell, provided one ouject that I have in view is accompli' 1 > H but the worst of is, wherever I go, I am sure of meeting a Papist." He did not state what the precise object was that he had in view ; he gave *' Here's confusion to John Smith Fleming, the Popish Lord Mayor, the b y Marquis Wel- lesley and all Popish Governors ;" witness could not recollect all he said ; he (witness) heard some expressions of being better prepared on the occasion of a future visit ; cannot say who used those expressions ; the passage in the room between the boxes was not more than four feet wide ; no one there ex- pressed disapprobation of what was said by Mr. Forbes. Cross-examined by Mr. Blackburne. My name, Sir, is Farley, (Mr. Blackburne had addressed the witness as Mr. Farrelly ;) witness went to that house in Fssex-street, between the hours of ten and eleven o'clock on that night, and remained there until twelve - r went in company with Mr. Troy there ; spoke to Mr. Percival as he was going out ; witness had no objection to some of their toasts ; would have left the house sooner but from the inattention of tha waiters ; took a second tumbler ; when witness and Mr. Troy came away, they left the others after them ; there were four in the box opposite to witness and Mr. Troy, Mr. Brownlow was in the next box, and three gentlemen stood at the fire ; one of those witness believed was a Mr. Pounden ; witness and Mr. Troy remained until about twelve o'clock ; the door was shut when they were coming away ; witness did not des- cribe this party as being in three parts of the house ; on coming in they sat in the box opposite to witness and Mr. Troy; can't swear if they drank any thin? before supper; believes they did ; can't identify the person who, when the throwing of the bottle or the stick was spoken of, said that •* it was a b y miss ! !" Witness does not think Forbes was tipsey ; does not think he was incapable of knowing what he was saying, although he was giving the toasts very incoherently ; it was a public tavern in which witness met him ; they were strangers to each other ; when he spoke of going to Botany Bay, he did not state his object. Cross-examined by Mr. Scriven. Witness was in the tavern before those Gentlemen rushed in ; cannot say if William Brownlow was there before the rush; Brownlow was by himself, after these people came in; M'lutosh was not near him ; witness swears positively, that they communicated together notwithstanding ; Pounden and two others sat opposite to where Mr. Brownlow sat; witnesi thinks they were not in the room till after the rush ; M'Cul- lagh was in the lower end of the room ; they said, *« it was a damned, and b y miss ;" witness on his oath says, that it was not "ad d and b y trick 1 ' they said; the words were "so few, that witaess thmks whoever used theui 53 did not let his voice down, but kept it elevated to the con- clusion ; witness will, however, swear positively that the word tnck was not used ; when the toasts were given, Brownlow raised his glass, and drank, but remained quietly on the table ; when charged with being in the gallery, he said he was as well where he was for the purpose ; M'Intosh muttered some- thing in an under tone, which witness did not hear. James Troy, examined by the Solicitor-General. Witness remembers the night the Lord Lieutenant went t« the Theatre ; Mr. Farley was at witness's house on that night, and they went out together ; they went out to escort seme la- dies who had dined at witness's house ; they proceeded alongr the quays to Essex-bridge, where witness prevailed on one of the ladies who was rather weak, to take a coach ; witness's dwelling-house is on Arran quay, and his house of business in Bridge-street ; witness and Farley proceeded after this over Essex bridge, conversing till they came to a tavern in Essex- street, kept by a person of the name of Flanagan ; as the night was cold, they went in there to take a tumbler; conjectures that Mr. Farley and witness entered the tavern between tea and eleven o'clock that night; they got into a box in which there were several persons ; they all remained there for some short time ; they talked of the occurrences at the Theatre ; some of them put questions to one of the party, respecting the part taken by him on that occasion ; they asked, why were not you at your post in the galleries ; witness was not ac- quainted with the person who asked and answered these ques- tions ; witness saw one of the persons who was answered, and who interrogated; identifies Brownlow as being that person ; after supper these people returned to the box opposite us; here they had punch, and drank toasts ; witness is not ac- quainted with any of these persons, but identifies Forbes as being one of them ; witness heard something said about whst had happened at the Theatre, the rattle, the bottle, and the stick ; witness then heard these persons make use of the ex- pressions, "Blast them how it missed ;" or words to that ef- fect ; witness also heard one of these persons say, •' that ha Was now in for it — that he did not care, provided the Papists were down ; witness also heard a deal of ribaldry and reflex- ions op Popery, such as extermination to Pope and Popery ; also, confusion to the Popish Lord Mayor, John Smith Flem- ing, and the bloody Marquis Wellesley ; witness can't call to mind any other expressions ; heard Forbes say, u send me to Newgate — transport, or send me to Hel{ — I'd suffer any thing to attain one object ; but I meet a Papist every where ; they then drank several toasts, such as the King, the Duke of York, Protestant Ascendancy, &c. they also said, we shall be better prepared another time ; don't remember who said this, but heard it* 54 Mr. Troy, cross-examined hy Mr. Rolleston. The witness states that he is not in the habit of drinking the Glorous and Immortal Memory ; can't say. he intends to drink it ; formed no intention at all on the matter, but would drink it in the proper acceptation ; he would drink it as the health of a brave and good man. Mr. Rolleston — It seemed to stick in your throat for pome tine — (much laughter.) — Did not drink this toast that night at Flanagan's; can neither say that he was or was not highly gratified by the drinking of this toast on that night; he did not take notes of what was said that night ; there were three or four in the box where the toast was drank ; who had not a bet- ter opportunity of hearing it than he. Pray explain ? The expressions were loud enough for me to hear. Were the per- son* conferring with eaeh other? I can't say ; I was but a listener ; I saw Forbes ; he did appear to have been warm with liquor ; if the witness had committed high treason, by blowing a whistle, he don't thing he would have been so imprudent as to disclose it in a public tavern ; the Traversers saw witness and his companion there, and we were total strangers to them, nevertheless they mentioned the whole matter, which was very imprudent ; witness thinks they would not have published all this if they had thought they had committed any crime ; don't know what the Traversers may think of this matter ; witness thinks Forbes was more mad and intemperate than drunk. Mr. Rolleston.— I am sure of that — (laughter.) Forbes said that he had gained his object ; the witness don't know the object of Forbes in using these expressions ; thinks his object was to support the Protestant Government. Mr. Rolleston Did not the toasting the healths of the King and Duke of York confirm your opinion ? It did more strongly ; he did not dislike Forbes for these toasts ; they are toasts which he drinks very often himself, but he seldom sits in company with those who drink them, where the Glorious Me- mory would be proposed. Chief Justice. — The Court wishes to know if it be the in- tention to persevere in this line of examination. Mr. Rolleston.— -My Lord, I shall ask but one question more. Chief Justice. — We have only permitted your cross exami- nation, because no objection was made. Mr. Rolletson.— Were not Forbes's expressions in favour of Protestanism — and in disfavor of Catholicity f Chief Justice. — The witness has proved this before. Mr. Rolleston. — If this be so, I will ask no more questions. Mr. W EESTER, examined by the Attorney General. Was in the Theatre with the Lord Lieutenant, as Aid-de- Camp," on the night of the 14th Dec. and recollects a stick or S5 hard substance having been thrown ; it struck the cushion ox' the box next to his Excellency, it rebounded and passed in front of his Excellency's head ; 1 then stood up, and pointing to the hole in the cushion, the audience cried shame ; the rent in the cushion of the box was mid-way. Cross-examined by Mr. Pen in. The people cried shame, and disapprobation was manifested by one hundred people. Cross-ex amhied by Mr. Scriven. The wood hit about eight inches from his Excellency's box, and after it rebounded I knew no more of it. CASE CLOSED ON THE PART OF THE CROWN. After the case had been closed on the part of the Crown, Mr. F. Mills. My Lord, one of Jurors wishes to ask Mr. Webster a question, and he need not stir from -where he is. Mr. F. Mills. Was the rent occasioned by the hard sub- stance ? I have no hesitation in saying it was ; the rent was about the size of a shilling. Mr. Driscpll then rose and addressed the Jury for George Graham and Mathew Handwich. " My Lords and Gentlemen — I never before rose under such overwhelming emotions ; but, without giving utterance to any thing that can excite angry feelings, & relying altogether on your justice, and on the soundness of your judgments, I shall address myself altogether to your understandings and common sense, without attempting to inflame or agitate your passions. My I^ords and Gentlemen, on the day after this transaction the whole city was filled with alarm, and every one believed that the plan, as at present charged, was formed and attempted. At the parish meetings assembled on the occasion, I, Gentlemen, joined with my fellow-citizens in expressing my indignation ; but I am now convinced, Gentlemen, that the Noble Personage who was addressed, feels convinced that too much importance has been thrown around the business, and that the stain of the whole has been washed away. In these addresses indignation was the most prominent feeling, and even now every epithet that the imagination can conjure up, and that the press can give vent to, have been applied to the unfortunate Traversers, at present under trial. Considering then, Gentlemen, the frailty of man, can your minds and your judgments be free, and are you sine that you are unbiassed. — Addressing myself to your passions, Gentlemen, 1 would implore you to stitfe and to still them, and to give freedom to the best gift that Heaven has blessed you with — your judgment. Gentlemen — you could not fail to have been further excited by the splendid address of the Attorney General ; the n o>t powerful and the most eloquent that I ever heard delivered in a court of justice. Gentlemen, your admi- ration must have been excited, and your Common sense led f«r 56 away by that most feeling and eloquent address. Gentlemen* the Attorney General has said right, this was a most important trial, because it will decide whether these men were so heroic in iniquity, jis to attempt the crime with which the Traversers are charged. Gentlemen, you are told of his Excellency's public services ; of his having quelled an open rebellion ; of his hav- ing averted a famine. Gentlemen, these things are all true : my clients don't deny it; but Gentlemen, this parade of virtue mus»t have prepared your minds too readily to receive the evfdence. Gentlemen use your discretion and judgment, but do not be borne down, and never forget that John Atkinson has positive- ly sworn, that it was no part of the alled'ged plan to offend or assault the Lord Lieutenant. If a reluctant and treacherous witness can have any effect on you, you must acquit the prison- ers, my clients/' Attorney General. — I wish to apprize Mr. Driscoll, that he is not to take for granted, that we admit altogether his statement, because we do not contradict it in this stage. Mr. DriGeoH resumed. — " My Lords, I dare say it was a mixture of kindness towards me, as well as a sense of public duty, that induced the Attorney- General to make those remarks, but, Gentlemen, I should like to be set right, for I do not wish to practice imposture. Gentlemen, a corrupt witness blunders, and discloses the foulness of his heart. With re- spect to George Atkinson, after giving his evidence, he tells you, that on Thursday or Friday he began to feel some scru- ples : his amiable heart was touched, and c-ff he went in the most affectionate manner to disclose the whole ta the Represen- tative, but a centinel changes his resolve, and he goes to the widow's in Ship-street, and punctually marshals his forces, and places them at their posts. Gentlemen, I dismiss that fellow, with these observations : His brother and father enjoy places under Government, and, notwithstanding, they go to the Theatre to make the Government; unpopular, and he closes the detail of the plan, with stating that it was not the intention to assail or offend. How could he effect his object, Gentlemen, w ithout assailing or offending ? Gentlemen, this fellow is not afraid to admit that George Graham was brought to the thea- tre, but he does not venture to state there was any rattle. He says of Mr. Handwich, that he desired him to bring his bro- ther with a number of men, to go to the play-house, and that Handwich assented. Here two unfortunate persons are to be consigned to punishment, because two wretches give evidence against them. Gentlemen, when I consider the majesty of the trial by jury, I cannot think you would lend yourselves to such reprobates as the Atkinsons. It has been said, that the overt act was to fling the bottle. — With a glimmering recollec- tion of the doctrine of vision, I am unable to explain how a person who states the bottle to have danced across his eyes in *he descent, with a velocity in proportion to the height from il which it was flung. I am unable, I say, to account how tlu> person could follow it in its descent, and detect it in tfte act of hitting the drop curtain. Gentlemen — look at the inconsistency of tiiis evidence — one states, that Henry Handwich had room for another person near him, while another person states, that the crowds were so great, that they could not stir. But I will prove that Handwich had no bottle at all, and we shall produce evidence to contradict Kelly and the Rev. Dr. from Ballinakill. I was amazed at this man's account, " boys look to your tire,'* which is only mentioned by him alone ; and further, look at the discrepancy between him and Farrell, who states that Handwich managed to have nobody near, while the Doctor, let loose from the pound, (laughter,) states, that the crowd was so great, and the gallery so stuffed, that Handwich had to bend over. I don't like to impute perjury, but I have a sacred duty to perform, and I have evidence to prove that Dr. M'Namara is not worthy of credit, — Gentlemen, it has been the practice of corrupt and interested men in all ages, to speculate on tem- poral advantages. This Doctor has been sentenced to three months imprisonment, one fortnight of which has only expired. Dj you think, from his character and conduct, that such a mind would hesitate to speculate on the clemency of the Mar* quis Wellesley. — By his evidence here this day, Gentlemen, the host judges and the ablest men, have been imposed on, and surely, the Attorney-General may have been duped in the present case. But, Gentlemen — independently of all this, there is a privilege given of hissing and applauding at Theatres, which has existed since their origin, and we shall bring an old and venerable lady here, nursed in the lap of luxury, who will tell you that she never felt any alarm, and did not consider the noiv. - ing, even varied, and most agitating eloquence of these ad- mirable Answers, which have fanned the flame till it has be- come a most consuming fire. But, Gentlemen, thanks be to Heaven, although the victims aie bound and bleeding, the first beam of light that we have enjoyed has broken from the darkest, spot in the horizon, and some security of acquittal is afforded to my clients, from the monstrousness of the charge which the Attorney General has brought against them — Gentlemen, the sea yet heaves and rolls, though the storm has subsided, and the earth has been rocked to and fro by the agitation of its motion. Gentlemen, it is impossible, when the elements are convulsed and crashing together, that you can have remained unmoved. There is in this case an in- auspicious alliance between the power of the Government and the power of the people, and this is the reasoo why I would forewarn you to be doubly cautious. The worst species of despotism is that to which the people are a party, and when aided by the crown, its force is overbearing 9 overwhelming, and irresistible. What is there so dangerous as this c alition ? The Vultus instantis tyranni— -The Civium ardor prava juben- tium. When these two conjoin, the flood-gates of oppression are let Injse, and the full tide of despotic power rushes with uncontrouled force. May my unfortunate clients be removed from its influence. I do not believe that the Attorney General was induced by any consideration but a sense of duty* to undertake these prosecutions ; but in my mind, this was a mistaken sense. Gentlemen, it is unknown to our Constitution? that the very case which has been discussed by a Grand Jury should be again brought forward by the Attorney General I confess Idid expect to have heard precedents cited, but my C9 turprige was unequalled when I heard none, and I have now practically learned, that the finding of a Grand Jury is a mere nullity. But if ex-ojficios are to be used at all, why was not the Grand Jury dispensed with altogether ? Why was circuitous and round-about methods adopted ? " My Lords — in reference to a passage from the Commons Journals, brought forward with great art and infinite address by the Attorney Genera!, I would remark, that in that case the Bills were endorsed by mistake, and that the Attorney- General's getting the indictment quashed, roused the attention of the House of Commons on the subject. The House con- sulted the most eminent lawyers of the day, and they unani- mously decided, that there was no such example from the ear- liest period of the Constitution. And this is the precedent on. which an ex-officio % under any circumstances an arbitrary pro- ceeding, it to be justified. What says SirMathew Hale, that great model of Christian piety, political sagacity, and legal wisdom. He says, presentment or indictment are the only legal methods of proceeding against a subject. What says Mr. Fox, who brought to the study of the Constitution the knowledge of a lawyer, and the science of s statesman. He says, " if these, the corner-stones of the Constitution, are removed, the whole edifice must come topling to the ground, because the main prop of all is the juridical power of the people, through the intervention of Grand and Petit Juries." Gentlemen, open force is not to be dreaded, for every man is aware of his enemy. Arbitrary proceedings are not so much to be dreaded, or so dangerous, as this proceeding, which is disguised, and of which the injustice and the illegality are not so glaringly apparent. What, says a writer, whom, no doubt, the Attorney-Genera! admires, and with whose sentiments he in general agrees ; speaking of the force of bad example, he says, " one precedent, creates another — what ^yesterday was fact, to-day is doctrine, and when both are wanting, the de- fect is supplied by analogy." It would be indecorous in me to pronounce this august tribunal as illegal ; but I do arraign the proceedings as discountenanced by — as alien from, the spirit of British law, and as unconstitutional. Gentlemen, this charge is a conspiracy. Do no suffer your minds to be wrought upon. The Attorney-General will tell you, that the benches in the Theatre might be torn up — that the pannels of the boxes might be broken — that the Theatre itself might be razed with the ground, before he would file an cx-ojjicio, had not the Lord Lieutenant been present. Gentlemen, this is a state trial ; but the ridicule of riot does not rest upon us or on the Court. The question is, whether there was a conspiracy or not, and this 1 .-hall be able" to grapple with, and overcome. Gentlemen, it was proved that these men arc Orangemen ; they do not dis* i :' 60 guise it ; they glory in it ; they boast of it. Perhaps it is not ray private opinion that this society or system is well calculated to attain the ends to which it aspires, but here I differ from the wisest, the most experienced men in the country. Hare these men ever been charged with disloyalty to theSovereign or his Representative? Their loyalty is an inborn and inbred part of their existence — it is " flesh of their flesh," " bone of " their bone." It is not the loyalty of a day, or a minute, or an occasion, or a purpose — it is not the loyalty which atones for a factious illegality to-day, by a cringing sycophancy to- morrow — it is with these men a pure, a fervent, a holy pas- sion — their enemies say a prejudice. The Attorney Gene- ral calls your attention to the state measures of his Majesty. Gentlemen, His Majesty's Cabinet are not on their trial, and with that Cabinet in your capacity of Jurors, you have nothing to do. He has next adverted to the dressing of King William ; *ipnn that subject I shall give my private opinion — if the opinion of an humble individual can be at all important. " Gentlemen, I do think that that exhibition of bad taste, as the Attorney General calls it, should be abolished. — I do think that that idle and unnecessary ceremony should and aught to be dispensed with. There is not a man in the community more desirous than I am that my Roman Catholic fellow- subjects should have the full benefit of the acquisitions of industry — the prize of talents, and the rewards of loyalty — I have avowed this at public meetings and in private companies — I have avowed it in canvassing Protestant electors : but, notwithstanding all * this, I confess I was taken by surprize when T saw the revered image stripped of its accustomed honors, which had been the old man's pleasure, and the poor man's pride. When I saw the captive monarch inclosed by armed men, and fortified by dou- ble rows of infantry and cavalry, as if some Soipian barbarian from the Tarns and the Volga, had meditated to mollify the marble monarch into dust." — ()oud and vehement applause ) Chief Justice— -This is not to be wondered at, but at the same time, such an exhibition is unsuited to a Court cf Justice, and cannot be tolerated. Mr. North then resumed. " When such were my feelings, what must have been the sentiments of those who consider Orangeism and Protestant Ascendency the main-props of the Constitution ? I shall not presume to follow the Attorney Ge- neral in his panegyric on Kin^ William. Were I even an ido- lator of that great man, I would not, by attempting to sing his praises, deface the impression which the Attorney General has made. I shall not attempt to follow the flight of that sublime imagination, whose freshness and fertility are unequalled. I shall not grapple with that "mint of mind, ' whose power ha* coined such beautiful imagery, and whose discretion has so ju- 61 diciously applied it. I shall not shoot arrows at the sun, or at- tempt to stop the veering of the wind. To follow the Attorney General would be a task not less difficult than either. But the Attorney General is not to be otfended at the offerings of the poor and the lowly. The rude wonder of the Shepherds was as palateable as the niyrhh and frankinsense of the Eastern Kings. You were told that the mantua- maker did not rightly adjust the millinery. You were told that the painter had not the imag na-« tive power of a Rubins, or the graphic art of a Raphael; but it is the feeling, the delightful enthusiasm, that I look to, not the taste ; and I will not quarrel with these poor men, if they did not, in their offering, equal the first of artists — the Attorney General. But there was nature in their offering ; it sprung from the best feeling of the human breast — feelings which w a cannot resist, but do not understand. There are a thousand chosen feelings of this nature to be cherished, springing from the same soil and parentage — drawing one sword for the same Sovereign--bowing down before the same altar of a common, faith ; these are bonds as sensitive as they are strong, and never were they brushed or broken with impunity. The feeble, pli- ant Hindoo, who bows his neck before every Conqueror, had never permitted one change in his faith. Nor Tamerlaine, nor Zindas, n«r Wellesley were able to effect this. And why, there- fore, Gentlemen, would you expect such a sacrifice from my clients. Gentlemen, I admit that the undressing of the Statue was, with these men, unpopular ; so it was with the Common Council, and many of the Guilds, when the Lord Mayor had issued his Proclamation. Then the Lord Lieutenant goes to the Theatre for the first time, although he had been a year in the country before. Don't imagine, Gentlemen, that the Lord Lieutenant goes to the Theatre for the purpose of seeing the play — it is no such thing. The Lord Lieutenant goes to receive applause, and if he deserve it, is sure to be signified. The L?rd Lieutenant goes with this object, and Handwich wishes to oppose the ride of popularity. Is there any thing criminal in this, and has any thing more been proved? My clients go to an Orange Lodge — they profess devotion to the King, and the Royal Family — they determine to inform the Lord Lieutenant of what was concealed from him by his friends — namely, the unpopularity of preventing the dressing of the Statue ; and they further determine to call for the " Boyne Water." This was the tune that rallied and roused the blood of their ances- tors, and associated the glory of a bye gone age with the pre- sent time. " Gentlemen, perhaps my clients went also for the purpose of shouting and groaning the Lord Mayor; but, Gentlemen, I have yet to learn whether there is any thing in the name of Lord Mayor (ex vi termini, as the grammarians call it, or Ex- ifficioj to speak with the Attorney*- General) — (laughter)— 6f which shields him from the disapprobation of his fellow -citizen?. I have never heard that his sacred presence — (laughter) — w;is environed or " hedged in" by the divinity of Majesty. I have never heard that he could touch for the evil, or that his white mace possessed the magic influence of Abraham's rod — (laughter.) Gentlemen — Any one who has an adequate con- ception of the powers of the Attorney -General, must know that he possesses the singular faculty of rendering the plainest things startling, singular, and extraordinary. But afteF the examination of Atkinson, every one must have felt that the evidence of the Attorney General was crumbling and dilapidat- ing. It is said that the Traversers had another object beside manifesting disapprobation ; but 1 deny it. Perhaps when they "wished that his Excellency should quit the Theatre, they also wished, with the blessing of God — (laughter) — that he should quit the country too- But, Gentlemen, one of the witnesses says, that he advised the parties to leave their sticks behind them, and he does not venture to swear that they did not take his advice. But, Gentlemen, where were the means, the in- struments, the arms, the guns, the pistols, the swords to drive him from the Theatre? We'll get him away, says one — yes, •gays another, I will arm myself with a whistle — 1'il whistle him oft — (laughter.) — Very good, says a third, and I will hiss him with a clapper — (laughter.) — Oh, says a fourth, 111 split his skull with a vial — no, I beg pardon, a quart bottle, which only Itolda a pint — (laughter*)— JLet us suppose the fifth a tailor, who would, * r- — " His quietas make With a bare bodkin." — (Laughter.) And thus was the Lord Lieutenant to be driven to the Pigeon- house, or Howth, from thence to be shipped with ^steam and smoke for England — (laughter.) But, Gentlemen, look a little nearer at these wise conspirators ; they did not get near his Excellency; they went to the upper gallery with that *' infernal machine" the rattle, and determined to be sure of letting his venerable head, by ihe utter impossibility of seeing him at, ail. — Oh! wise and enlightened conspirators, excel- lently wicked traitors. George Atkinson says they went to the right hand side of the gallery ; but the fact is, these men were at the extreme left. Now, I ask, has this evidence a shadow ef probability ? On whose evidence have you all this ? on the evidence of two brothers ; the sworn allies of these men who get possession of their secrets merely to betray them. — Are these the Judas's — the arch-traitors, on w hose testimony you will convict. These fellows belonged to an Orange Lodge, but the bond of that oath is insignificant, when compared with the friend&hip they have betrayed. Is it lucre that has urged oil these wretches ? if it be I hope their reward will be in hard t>3 •ash. I hope they will have no place as a compensation, and thus spread an epidemic treason through the Country. Gen- tlemen, would you take a limb from a spider, a leg from a fly, on such testim ny. But 1 shall be told, doubtless, by the Solicitor-General, that these men might tell truth, though thry break confidence. But I am not a living man if every word they have uttered be not a lie. I won't defile my mouth by the epi- phets to which these men are entitled. Gentlemen, George Atkinson says that he went to the Lodge, at the Phoenix-park, that the sentinel stopped him and that he did not stop to rea- son or argue with the sentinel ; and after all tin's he supplies the whistles and joins in the supper and conviviality, JSo man can believe this evidence. But I ask, why did not the Attor- ney-General prccuce the sentinel ? Be he English, Irish, or Scotch, 1 am sure he would give the lie to George Atkinson. There is a grea; latitude given to a Jury, but no such latitude as this, that I believe a part, but not the whole. Then comes the brother, ' par nobile Jratrum ;" the drops of sweat steal- ing down this man's forehead, and the whole contour of hi* visage reminded me of what Dr. Johnson said of Calibans face in the M Tempest.' — " It is clouded by the gloominess of his temper, and the malignity of his purposes.'' When asked to explain, his answer was, "did not occur," and had these words the felicity pf an Italian idiom, they would be held up to every fluttering, stammering witness, as a second " Non mi ricordo'S' This witness now seeks out for a locus penitenlice^ and gives his conscience a little resting place, by letting out that no true Orangeman could have thrown the bottle — so much for the two Atkinsons. With respect to Wm. Graham, my client, there is scarcely a tittle of evidence. Mr. Low- lier, states that he bought six pit tickets, but truth is, that he went to the Theatra in company with persons who will prove he bought only one pit ticket. There were a number of these foolish placards, which, if they had been overlooked, had never been further heard of, and Graham picked up some of these. Lambert states that Graham groaned his Excellency. Now, it will be proved that, on the contrary, he cheered him, although he did not cheer the Lord Mayor. It will also be proved, that Graham left the pit at the conclusion of the se- cond act. I come now to the other defendant, Henry Hand* wich, my client also. The assassinating part rests with him. "Who are the persons who attempt to establish this ? Henry Handwich was in the third row of the upper gallery, where there are a number of props, &c. supporting the ceiling, and from the third row he flung this bottle at the Lord Lieut. The first is, that " ore rolundo" Gentleman, the Jew, or jeweller, (I beg his pardon, I thought he was a Hebraist) wh» has spent all his time in London. I wish this vsnue had been 64 laid in Covent-garden, where I will venture to say, this witness is better knowii. I would be sworn the inhabitants of the Strand, York-street, Catherine-street, James-street, Henri- etta-street, and St. Martin's-lane, can give him a right good character. «* Gentlemen — Is it probable that a man of good character would leave that mart of Gommerce and of wealth, where a man of industry is sure to succeed, to take up his residence in Dame-court, Dublin. This witness, Gentlemen, spoke by the yard — he lectured us, and spoke like Birbeck, who went to Illinois, he too, like Birbeck, may give, if he ever dare to return to London, some note of the savage inhabitants. He says Handwich was near an empty space Do you believe it ? Was it not packed close ? What was Tiernan s evidence of it? It was a running hand that all might read. They were packed, says Tiernan — there never was such a crush. Which do you believe — the thorough Irishman or the Anglo-Irishman — a seedling grafted on the English stock — possessing all the clogged pertinacity of the one, without the frankness of the other. We have another — the far-famed Dr. M'Namara, from BalHnakill, and Graduate of Salamanca. I heard " mind your fire," says the Doctor ; how fortunate is it that a fabri- cation is always unsupported, and here there is not the slightest corroboration. Moreover, lie says that he recognized the bottle in its transit. Transit ! — sage astronomer ! Morally speak- ing, it is impossible the bottle could have descended without being observed by 7 or 800 persons' at least ; but nobody saw it but the Doctor; no giggling girl, no telescope could discover except that of the astronomer of Ballinakill. Vounders upon vounders, says the Dutchman, and here are vounders with a vengeance— to say that glass, a substance more elastic than ivory, and 1000 times as fragible, could fall from such a, height unbroken. But here is a miracle indeed ; Mr. Barton, who sits in the orchestra, takes up the bottle without getting off his seat ; it must have therefore fallen from the pit or boxes, the impetus was so slight. But why is not the bottle produced; we should then see whether it contained porter or whiskey, or whether it was starred? I admit that Forbes, (for whom I am not concerned, but whom I think a frank young man,) I admit that he 'was intoxicated and intemperate, but I deny that he has done any thing criminal. It is a rule of law that " mens rea fecit reum," and apply this in the present case. But what is the real extent of the gui't of the Traversers if guilt itcan be called ? I have always thought it was the privi- lege of the English and the Irish to give expression to a public feeling. They are not to excite terror in expressing it ; but short >f that (I may be wrong). I have always thought they had a right to express a public and political feeling. However, 65 if I am to lose this privilege, I will not part with it without a struggle. The Attorney General has set Up for a reformer of the Theatre— (laughter). I hoj>e he will sketch out a plan more defined than that of the political Reformers— I hope he will state how much is to be conceded to the boxes—how much to the pit— how much to the galleries. I hope it is not the presence of the King or the Lord Lieutenai.t that will frown the audience into Eastern sycophancy, or silent submission, In the classic writers of our language, we shall find examples numerous enough, of the exertion of this valued privilege. You remember the Trunkmaker in the Spectator you remem- ber the history of Cato, written for the purpose of giving vent to those " grand swelling sentiments or liberty/' which were so opposed to the Tory and intolerant Administration of my Lord Bolinbroke, and Treasurer Harley. On this occasion, Booth, the actor, who personated the character of Cato, in- stead of being rebuked, or an ex'-officio filed against him by my Lord Bolinbroke, was taken by that Nobleman into his especial favor, and presented with 60 guineas, although Cato had the merit of silencing those who aspired to overthrow the reigning family, and who wished to assume a perpetual dictatorship The Duke of Rutland was gallant, gay, and chivalrous. He lived in times when hospitality and profusion were considered as manly virtues— as indispensible duties. The Noble Duke never went to the Theatre without some allusion being made to his profligate character, but although insulted he had the grace to blush, and the good humour to smile- I assert that the privilege of asserting opinions on public subjects was never ex- ercise !, even in the most arbitrary times. Even the Ttftdon and Elizabeth were innocent of such a crime. Returning from her Parliament, after having conquered the Armada, and sub- dued the spirit of Spain, Elizabeth was hissed and insu'ted.— She had a Court of Star Chamber, and an Attorney General ready to file his ex officio. To neither of tln.se did she resort ; she retired to her chamber ; she smote her breast, ad acknow- ledged the justice of the sentence of her people. You have all heard of the O P riots at Covent Garden. They lasted for six - ty-six nights, and were violent in the extreme. When ihe r. ; - oters were brought before a British Jury, they found security- even against the charges of the Judges, and when pressed by Sir James Mansfield to give a verdict tor the King, they Mid they did not think it necessary to punish a man lor wearing a- placard in his hat. The Attorney General says t!.at yWr ver- dict may advance National Conciliation. National Conciliati- on ! Consider well before you suffer 3 our judgment to be ei - trapped ; remember that there is not a Bishop or a Secretary thatdoes not try some nostrum, some Dr. Solomons BaJiu Ji Gilead, to heal our troubles and take the vertigo ftruoi our head. C&mcilfatfon- — migi? and mvstcrious xrord, Farced and unnatural remedy " That still so near us, and so far off flies, C»urtcd by fools, as well as by the wise." Gentlemen — The swelling tide of popular feeling will not be staved— the boisterous billow of political contention will not be calmed by force. Gentlemen, I witnessed the entry of hit Majesty — " Asa fair morning of the blessed spring, Such was the glorious entry of our King, Enriching tndistgre fell on every thing-.'' But although the King did much, he did not, nor can he, deprive men of their principles. Party spirit can only be stilled, when " You are to its virtues \ery kind, And to its faults a little blind." Gentlemen — Ex- Officios, without bail or mainprize, cannot conciliate, nor can your verdict be just, and mind not conci- liation. Disabuse the Lord Lieutenant, and tell him there is no dagger but the " air-drawn" one of his imagination. FOURTH DAY— Thursday, Feb. 6. Mr. Johnston, at the opening of the Court, argued a consi- derable length against the proceeding by an information filed ex-officio by the Attorney- General, after the Grand Jury had ignored bills of indictment, which had been preferred against the same persons on the same testimony. After having quoted several cases from law books, and other authorities, he re- viewed the evidence which had been given against the Traver- sers, with his usual ability and zeal. Mr. Scriven, said, that hewas Council for Brownlow ; one of those deep and bloody conspirators, who had been charged with the atrocious offence of endeavouring to take away the Jife of the Lord Lieutenant; and that it was his duty to enter on the defence of his client ; but that after the brilliant and ex- traordinary display of eloquence from Mr. North, which the Court and the Gentlemen of the Jury had witnessed yesterday, and after the particular manner in which Mr. Johnston had gone through the evidence which had been adduced on the part of the Crown, it could not be expected, as indeed it would not be allowable, for him to go into any extent of observations on the prominent facts of the case. The general topics has been> ail exhausted ; the particular facts had been — Here .Mr. Scriven was stopped by the Chief Justice, who wished to know whether it was the intention of the Law Officer* of the Crown to press for a conviction against Brownlow. — His Lordship said that the Court had taken into their consi- deration all the evidence which had been adduced against him- 07 P and had weighed well the testimony which applied to him. It appeared that Brownlow was neither at the meeting at the Shakespeare Tavern, nor at the meeting in Werburgh-street $ that he was neither at the buying of the tickets, nor at the transactions in the Theatre. The whole of the evidence which applied to him only went to the transactions in the Tavern in Essex- street. The evidence was, that he sat there with the other Traversers. It also appeared that he was rebuked by one of them for not having been at his post, and that he defended himself by saying, that he was in as good a place for the pur- pose, in the pit- That admission, which is the whole of the evidence against him— * He'-e the Attorney General rose, and made a short obser- vation. The Chief Justice — We must then leave the question to the Jury. The Attorney General said — My Lord, under the obser- vation which your Lordship has made, I do not think I would be justifiable in pressing tor judgment against that individual. Mr. Scriven — Then the issue is to be sent at once to the Jury, as to Brownlow. Ths Attorney General — No, no. no. Mr. Scriven — It could not be allowed that I should go into his case at any length, and the more particularly, after what has fallen from your Lordship ; but I am concerned for another traverser. The Attorney General — We stated in the outset that every person should have a full opportunity of availing himself of every opportunity for his defence. Air. Johnston has stated a case for one of the traversers; Mr. Dnscoll has stated a case for two of the traversers ; Mr. North has stated a case for two more of them ; there only remains one, whose case is to be spoken to — and that is Brownlow's. Mr. Scriven — I am concerned. The Attorney General interrupted Mr. Scriven by saying, that he (toe Attorney General) thought that he was discharg- ing his duty in at ceding to th# suggestions of the Court ; and that he thought bis acquiescence was not calculated to do an injury to Mr. Scriven's client. LL sJore£o his intention of speaking to the ease lie, (tne Attorney Genera! ) would have felt it to be his duty to abstain in the course of examination of the witnesses who might be produced on the defence, from' asking any questions which might tend to affect* Brownlow ; but thai if Urownlow's Counsel conceived himself to be discharg- ing his duty ro his client, he mig'it go on with his speech. Mr. Scriven immediately declared that he would not abuse the privilege/ and that he wuuld close biff mouth. He would, X C8 however, take the opportunity of acknowledging the candou? of the Attorney General in this part, as well as in the entire of the prosecution; he (Mr. Scriven) would not intrude his opinions on the Court and the public, though there were some topics not touched upon by others, which he would otherwise have felt it to be his duty to urge. FOR THE DEFENCE. Mr. Trench sworn — examined by Mr. Blaclcburne. Witness lives at Haywood, near Ballinakill, in the Queen's County ; knows Dr. Bernand M'Namara; does nut know much of him; he heard of Dr. M'Namara by character; knows Dr. M'Namara's general character, as far as his (witness's) judg- ment goes ; witness is a magistrate of the Queen's County ; knows Dr. M ; Namara's general character ten years ; does not know him much; knows him generally. Q. From his general character, do you believe him to be worthy of belief on his ©ath ? The question was objected to by the Attorney General, and after along argument it was settled that the question should be put in such a way, as that the answer of the witness should state whether it was the general opinion of the county, and not merely of any individual in it, that Dr. M'Namara was not worthy of belief on his oath. Q. Now you have heard the nature of the question, what is your answer I I must speak in some degree from my own means of knowledge ; I have been a Magistrate for 40 years ; upon my oath I would not believe him. Cross-examined by the Attorney -General. I have not been in habits of conversation with Dr. Macnama- ra, in general, because I always avoided it, except when he was brought before me, or came before me as a Magistrate to take his depositions ; I have a dislike to the man from his conduct. Did he ever do you an injury ? Never; I have known that per- sons lodged informations against him, and he lodged informations against those persons ; he is a troublesome litigious man. Q. Because he is a troublesome and litigious man, you would not believe him on his oath ; is that your meaning Mr^ Trench f No. Do you not feel a little warmth on this occasion ? No. Is not the impression you have, that he is a litigious, troublesome man ? I adhere to my original intention to think that he is not a person to be believed on his oath. Dj you mean to say that in a matter in which he was disinterested, you would not believe him ? I had an — (a pause) — I should be inclined to disbelieve him. Only inclined ; then you admit that he might be believ- ed on his oath sometimes ? No ; I should absolutely, positively disbelieve him on any question. So if he came into Court and swore to any matter that was indifferent to him, you would dis- believe him — would you t (After a long pause) — 1 don't undep. 69 stand the question ; I don't think myself bound to answer the question. The question was repeated. On my word — • 'Mr. Attorney General here reminded Mr. Trench that he was on his oath. On my oath I should strongly hesitate, if I did not decline to believe his evidence. You said a while ago that you would absolutely and positively disbelieve him — what do you say now? I would absolutely disbelieve him. Without any qualification? No, no. Well! what do you say now ? I would actually and absolutely disbelieve him. Suppose he came in to swear that he was in the Theatre, on Saturday night, you would absolutely believe that he was not in the Theatre, but that he was in Ballinakill pound? (Laugh). Would you Mr. Trench ? I would not absolutely, but I would believe nothing from him unless it was confirmed by a person of veracity. It must de- pend in a great deal if he had an interest. Then, if he had no interest you would believe him ; would you i Not absolutely. Suppose the thing was indifferent, would you believe him ? I could not say that I would disbelieve every thing. (A laugh). Attorney General — We are here getting into a little state of em- barrassment; we must understand the articles of your belief in Dr. Macnamara — (a laugh) ; we must understand your ortho- doxy— (a laugh) ; I am afraid you are wavering in our be- lief — (a laugh). If he said he saw the Lord Lieutenant, you would disbelieve him, (After a long pause) I would not say. Suppose that he said that he was at the playhouse, would you believe him? I might or I might not believe him— (a laugh). You have said more than once, that you absolutely and positive- ly disbelieve him on all occasions. You said again, that you might believe him or not ; then I believe that we must leave you to the Jury, like him, to say whether you ought or not be credited ; (a laugh) ? I speak only from his general character. Did you ever hear of a charge of perjury being preferred against him in the country ? (After a long pause). A person who is a Barrister, Counseller Arabin, if he was here, he could tell it. P Attorney- General.— Never mind Counsellor Arabin, we shall have him called, and he will answer for himself. The question was repeated. Witness — I beg leave to call Counselor Arabin. Attorney- General — We will hare him called, but go on yourself, and he will state what he knows for himself. Witness — Sitting on the bench as a Magistrate, something came under our observation, but Counsellor Arabin can ex- plain it better than I can. Q. Never mind Counsellor Arabin, tell what you do know ? There was no charge, but there is a preparation for a charge of perjury against him. Then I am to understand that something growing out of that transaction has been added to your impression against Doctor M'Namara? No answer. Attorney- General — If Mr. Arabia be produced I shall prove to the satisfaction of the Court and Jury, that there never was a more unfounded imputation than this In answer to a question proposed by the Court, the witness said that there was no prosesution, but that th*re was cue in preparation. Question by the Attorney Genera)* — Is Mr. Arabinin town? I don't know. Has not Dr. M Namara frequently appeared be- fore you in the character of a prosecutor? He has. Has lie tendered informations to you? He has. Has he sworn to them? He has. Dj you believe him to be a warm man, and that he has enemies in the Country ? I believe he lias. Upon your oath, has he not many enemies in the County, who would be glad to convict him of perjury, if he swore falsely ? There are many persons, and I would be glad to convict him myself if he swore falsely. Would they not be desirous ? Upon my word I don't know whether they would be desirous to convict him of perjury. I suppose the people he swore against would be desirous or convicting him of perjury ? No answer. I wish to ask you a few questions about Ballinakill pound. He was indicced for breaking the pound, and rescuing cattle. — Upon your oath, did not the facts of the case appear before the Magistrates to be these ; has not Mr.Arabin some property in the Co. ? I don't know, he has some claim in property. Is not Dr. Macnamara in the possession of some property in the County ? I can't exactly say, at least he claims the possession of some property. I ask you Sir, is he not in actual posses- sion of some property ? I believe he is in possession of some leasehold interest. Attorney-General. — Was ever the like of this seen •, I ask you, if Dr. Macnamara is in possession of a certain property, and then, you tell me that Dr. Macnamara has a claim to the possession — w r hatkind of possession, is a claim to possession ? and then when I press for an answer, to know whether the man is oris not in possession, you tell me that it is a leasehold pro- perty ! I did not ask whether it was a fee simple, or a fee tail. or a quasi fee simple, or a freehold, or what denomination of property it is ; and yet you tell me that, it is a leasehold, though you did not say to me at once who was in possession of it, which was what 1 asked and all I wanted to know. Q. Are there any tenants holding under him? He is in possession of a leasehold interest. There again — the quality of the tenure ! 1 ask you, Sir, has he any tenants under him — don't be fen- cing with me. Was there not some question raised with respect to cattle on the land that had been held by Dr. M'Xamara ? There was. Was it not respecting the cattle he was convicted ? No answer. Did you not tell me a while ago that he was con- victed of breaking the pound and for a rescue of the cattle ? A pause. Did you not tell me so ? Let me think. I ask you 71 was he not tried for a rescue ? I believe he was. A rescue of: cattle ? A breach of pound. Was it for breaking open the pound, or for taking the cattle? It was for both. Was it not for taking cattle from the pound that had been on that very land ; Was it not for taking cattle that were upon that land that were driven by Macnamara himself for rent, before any rent became due to him ? 1 believe it was. Did he not take the cattle off the land before the rent was due and put them into pound ; to pursue this transaction would be getting into a detail much too long? I brieve it was. Don't you believe that he took the cattle out of the pound himself when he found that the distress was illegal? Witness — Give leave to state. Attorney General — No, no. Hoc Age — Give me an answer. Witness — Before 1 answer let me give you a reason. Chief Justice — First answer the question, and then give a reason. Witness — I believe he broke open the pound, but there was a detainer lodged against the cattle. Q. What! what do you mean by a detainer given to a pound-keeper ; I don't un- derstand how that is done ; this is a new branch of jurispru- dence to me. ( A loud laugh. ) What is the form of lodging the detainer on the cattle in the pound ; for I for one. don't understand how that can be done, (a laugh) ; 1 wiah to be enlightened I y the local authorities. (A laugh.) Here Mr. Trench became faint, and he called for a gla^s of water; when he recovered a little, the Attorney Genera! said to him will you have this orange, though I don't mean to insinuate by it that you are of that complexion? (A loud laugh in every part of the Court.) Mr. Trench shortly afterwards holding out towards Mr. Attorney General a bit of the Peel of the orange, said, give me leave to present to you, in return, some of an old acquaint- ance, (loud laughing and cheering in the Court.) Cross-examinaiion resumed* W r ho lodged the detainer ? I believe some creditor of the tenant. The cattle were the cattle of the tenant, and some detainer was lodged with the pound-keeper, and Dr. M'&a- mara took away the cattle which he himself had impounded? was not these the facts ? Yes. Was the pound on the land or off the land of Dr. M'Namara? It was not on the land of Dr. M'Namara. The pound breach, of which you and the Magistrates convicted him, was for taking out of the pound the cattle which he himself put in the pound, which was not on the premises ? It was. Did you convict him and impose a fine of £20. for that ? Yes ; there were other matters too, What were they ? Stay, I have not in fact a sufficient recoi* lection of them, and I want to thipjj. a littj^. Here the Attorney General rose and said that the decision was as gross and illegal a decision as ever was made in the course of time, and that he could not conceive any thing more abominable. Don t you believe that Dr. M Namara was sentenced to three months imprisonment on that occasion ? ( A lon^ pause.) 1 am thinking there were a great many cases tried at the time, and as I have not a perfect memory, I am endeavour- ing to recollect myself. Attorney General — Don't hurry yourself. Don't you be- lieve he wa6 sentenced to pay a fine of £20. and to be im- prisoned three months? That was the sentence- Don't you believe that this circumstance joined to the other general circumstances, made an impression on your mind, not to be- lieve t-ie gentleman on his oath ? (After along pause) There is a train of circumstances not connected with that, that made such impression on my mind. You did advert to one circum- stance, and I have unravelled it. If I should ask you about other matters, you might enter into an explanation of cir- cumstances ; but until I shall do so, you must not tell those circumstances. You did mention one circumstance, and as I have happened to know something about it, 1 adverted to it, and showed what the facts were. You might allude to others, of which I could have no immediate knowledge, the circum- stance might be of the same kind as the facts for which the sentence of three months imprisonment, with the fine of £20 f was pronounced. When Mr. Trench was leaving the table, Mr. Attorney General said, 1 shall keep this (the peel) careful ly — r-( A laugh.) Mr. Trench.— I hope you will not want it long, (laugh.) John Pounden sworn. Witness knows Forbes for two or three years ; was in the Theatre on the 14th Dec. last; saw Forbes in Flanagan's that evening ; was in the tavern before Forbes came ; it was about ten or eleven o'clock; probably later whenForbes came ; Forbes supped there ; witness can't say the number of persons who supped there that night ; witness sat within eight feet of the box in which Forbes supped ; saw two gentlemen of the name cf Farley and Troy in the box opposite where Forbes sat ; For- bes and his party were talking loudj Forbes was greatly irrita- ted ; witness wished to hear about the Theatre, and he listened to what was said; Forbes did not appear to be sober; to the best of witness's recollection, he never heard Forbes say of the Lord Lieutenant, the Devil help him, or the Devil mend him ; witness heard Forbes say, that no true Orangeman would throw ths rattle o ■ bottle. One of the Jurors wished to know whether witness said could or "would was the word. 73 Witness, i think tvould was the word ; witness never heard them say that they would take better aim the next time ; wit- ness staid until twelve o'clock. Question by the Court. The conversation took place in the box opposite Troy's and Farley's, but Forbes and his paity sapped lower down ? Yes. Cross-examined by Mr. Solicitor General. Many expressions might have escaped witness's notice, as he was in conversation occasionally with his own party ; Mr. Far- ley and Mr. Troy were more opposite than witness to P'orbes's box ; witness was not so attentive to the conversation of F orbes's- party, while they were at supper, as at the other time. Mr. Benjamin Smith sworn. Witness is in employment in Finlay's Bank ; appoint him, and yet he never had alluded to his opinions in any manner whatever dur- ing his frequent conferences, in the absence or the Attorney General ; and if any man says that it is Lord Wellesley's wist! to deprive persons of their political or constitutional privileges, he says what is unfounded. He was bound in honor, he was bound in justice, to say, for his frequ fit interviews with his Excellency had i. Warded him frequent opportunities of marking the never-ceasing anxiety, the constant alacrity, and the in- Aincible impartiality, with which he discharged his high and important trust. On his most solemn word he never yet saw a more strictly impartial individual in his life, his sole object was not to put down any party, but to deai justice to all. — With respect to the hand-bills or placard., he said theJury had it proved to them that they w^re showered down from the lat- tices, and that William Graham had brought them into the pit in a bundle ; and can any man doubt that it was by previous concert to effect a certain purpose % The Learned Lord would supply any defect from his statement of the law and the evi- dence, and did not care what were their feelings out of Court ; they had taken a solumn oath, and as they hoped for mercy hereafter, he called upon them to entitle themselves to it by the N 52 honest performance of their duty ; he did not mean to impul* any doubt of them, but instances have unfortunately occurred before now of the violation of a solemn obligation. You have entered info an agreement with your God, violate it if you dare. I call upon you to weigh deliberately the evidence in this case, and, as you hope for mercy hereafter, find your verdict. The Chief Justice commenced his charge as follows : Gentlemen of the Jury — It is in general the duty of the Court to call the attention of the Jury to the nature of the evidence which has been laid before them. In some of the statements which have been made to you, aeveral topics have been introduced, which are not connected with the case imme- diately before you. First, as to the question of the legality or illegality of the Ex-officio Information not yet being decided ; with this you have nothing to do, and on the plea of Not Guilty being put in, you are bound to presume that proceeding legal. Gentlemen, the next topic 1 wish you to exclude from your observation is, the act of the Grand Jury in ignoring the Bills ; that act of the Grand Jury is not in evidence before you. If 3t must be conceded as a fact, that the Grand Jury did ignore those Bills, it ought to induce you to proceed with the greater caution ; but, to say that their decision should govern yours, would be monstrous. They have decided on their oaths. You Will decide on yours. It is not by their judgment or their consciences that you are to be influenced, but by your own. It would, lead to conclusions of a very alarming nature, when we consider the importance attached to this trial, if feelings of a political tendency were allowed to influence your delibe- rations. The political interests of the country are, in some measure, involved in this case, and it therefore imperiously calls for a calm and dispassionate consideration. You will not, I trust, Gentlemen, give a political or factious verdict, if political feelings are allowed to enter into that Jury Box, the consequences must be deplorable. If they are permitted to interfere with the course of justice, it puts an end to the Constitution. Every subject of the realm who enters this Court, leaves his political feelings at its threshold. You, a* Jurors, are sworn to do justice in this particular case. Who could forget, in this Christian country, that when man thus takes on himself to award justice to his fellow man, he sanc- tions the obligation by a solemn appeal to his God ? Are you sworn to adjust the affairs of this country ? Are you called on to decide the question of the Protestant Ascendancy ? Are you impannelled to consider the legality of an Orange Association ? Are you called on to declare whether concilia- tion or discord shall prevail in this country ? No, Gentlemen I you are sworn to try the particular case before you, and 19 93 decide according to the evidence that hat been produced.— Your first duty, Gentlemen, will be to consider if any, and which of tiie traversers are guilty of the Conspiracy with which they stand charged, and next, if any, and which are guilty of the riot. There are two informations against the traversers, the first, which is tor a conspiracy, contains three counts. The second, for a riot, contains two counts. (Here the Chief Justice recapitulated the various counts in the indictment.) Gentlemen, these informations involve as serious a charge as can come under the denomination of a misdemeanor. It may be necessary, Gentlemen, for the Court to define to you, the nature of the crime with which the prisoners stand charged. (Here the Chief Justice explained the legal construction of riot and conspiracy.) Gentlemen, we are of opinion, for I am authorised by my brother Judges to say so, that if the evidence produced on the part of theCrown is true.of which you arethe best judges, that it is abundantly sufficient to support this information. It has been said, Gentlemen, that an audience has a right to hiss. Gen- tlemen, the rights of an audience are already defined. An audience may cry down a play, or hiss, or hoot an actor ; an audience may be noisy, but not riotous; besides, this must be the feeling of the moment, if not, it becomes criminal, and would have the effect of turning the Theatre into an arena for factious rioters. The Theatre is a place of cultivated amuse- ment, or as some say of moral improvement. I know of no distinction between the rights of an audience and those of the persons in this Court, except that respect which is paid to the law. I will read to you, Gentlemen, four questions for your con- sideration. First — Do'you believe that there was any riot in the Theatre on that night. Secondly — If you do believe there was a riot., do you believe any or the prisoners took a part in it, and which of them t Thirdly — Do you believe that the riot commenced on a sud- den, momentarily, or was it the result of a previous con- spiracy ? Fourthly — If you believe that it was the result of a previous conspiracy, were any of the prisoners, and which of them were parties to it ? Your duty is to judge from the evidence, if you believe any of those persons guilty, you will find him guilty, and if you believe, from the evidence adduced, any one of those persons innocent, you will acquit that person. I will now, said his Lordship, take the prisoners severally Gentlemen, first there is Mr. Forbes— Mr. Lowther, the box- S4 keeper, states that he bought six tickets from him for that j-jjgLit — tin's corroborates the statement of Atkinson- ' If any Gentleman of the T ury, thinks that I have mistated anything, I will take it as a favour if he vriii set me right — ( So ! no ! from the Jury -box). Mr. Greaves deposed, that Forbes was in the upper lattices, near whefe the placards were thrown from at the time ; lie took him into custody with the whistle in his hand. Tiiis is a further corroboration of Atkinson's testi- mony. The next witness is Mr. George Farley, and if he has deposed trul} 7 , the tacts which he has deposed to, relative to the Tavern in Essex-street, are utterly inconsistent with the innocence of Forbes, as to the riot or conspiracy. Mr. James Troy's evidence goes to the same effect. Mr. Pounden, and Mr. Smith, have been produced for the defence; they botli go, to a certain degree, to support Mr. Troj-, and the other respectable witness. The next Traverser I shall point your attention to is Henry Handwich. One witness, Christopher Moran, saw him rioting in the gallery that night ; another witness M. Farrell, saw him throw the bottle. But, Gentlemen, part of the defence set up is, that there was no battle thrown, and that if their was, it not thrown by. Henry tlandwich. Gentlemen, Brocas, was his own witness, who was bi ought forward to exculpate him, admits that he saw a stick or rattle thrown from the very same place from whence it was alledged to be impossible to throw a bottle. Dr. M'Namara has stated that he heard one of then* s»y, " Mind your fire." Mr. Trench has sworn that Dr. M'Na- ma*a is not entitled to credit. His own witness, Brocas, if you believe him, has acquitted Henry Handwich of throwing the bottle, of which he is not accused in the information, but he convicts him of riot. Brocas gave more distinct and precise evidence of the riot than all the witnesses for the Crown. To separate the riot from the conspiracy, you must disbelieve the evidence as to the words " Look ov.fc, boys/' and the printed placards which had been circulated through the house. If I take up these informations I could take something from the evi- dence of this Brocas, in support of every count in each informa- tion, and if he had not been produced on the part of the pri- soners, I could almost have supposed, that it was from his tes- timony the Crown Solicitor had drawn up the informations. With respect to Matthew Handwich, the witnesses Eastham and Moran, have been produced in corroboration of Atkinson, in the case of Wm. Graham, Mr. Lowther, of the Theatre, swore, that he (Graham) purchased six tickets for that night; it is sworn to by a Mr. Lambert, that he distributed hand-bills ui the Theatre, which he brought in with him ; Mr. Farley and Mr. Troy swore to the facts which are utterly inconsistent with the innocence of either William Gi\;ham or Forbes. $5 With respeet to George Graham, three witnesses, namely, Mr. Philip Ryan, James Tiernan, and Serjeant-Major Harris, have deposed to their seeing hiin throw the rattle. Exclusive of the Atkinson's, there are fifteen witnesses who * swore to the riot ; and also the witness Brocas. Among the witnesses for the defence was Lady Rossmore ; she stated that she was in the House on that night ; that she was not alarmed, but that her hearing was not good, and it does her Ladyship in- finite credit that she was not alarmed. — (Much laughter.) Here the Chief Justice recapitulated from his Notes, the evi- dence that had been produced, and concluded a most impressive and luminous charge, by leaving the question as to the credibi- lity of the witnesses, entirely for the consideration of the Jury. Judge J ebb then shortly addressed the Jury — he expressed his full concurrence in every thing that fell from the Chief Justice. Mr. Justice Burton also expressed his perfect concurrence in. the sentiments of the Chief Justice, and was followed by Jxidge Vandeleur, who spoke to the same effect. At twenty-five minutes past three o'clock the Jury retired. A Bailiff was then called, and being sworn, they were givea in charge to him. A few minutes after five o'clock Judge Jebb called the She- riff, and desired him to inquire if the Jury were likely to agree. The Sheriff returned with word that " they were.'' At six o'clock the Sheriff was again called by the Court, and sent to inquire if the Jury were likely to agree. The Sheriff returned with word that ' e they had nearly agreed. At the expiration of another half hour, Judge Jebb told the Sheriff to desire the Jury to come into Court. The Jury having Come into their box, and answered to their names, Judge Jebb told them that, in a case of such impor- tance, it was not the wish of the Court that they shoidd be hur- ried in their decision. The Court would therefore adjourn un- til nine o'clock, when the Judges would again take their seats on the Bench, and receive the verdict, if the Jury had by that hour agreed. If they should agree in the interim, messengers fihbu'ld be left in readiness, who would apprise the Judges, and they would return to Court then, and receive the verdict. Here one of the Jury mentioned, 'that he thought it likely they should agree in about fifteen minutes ; but the Court ex- pressed a wish that they should not be hurried in their delibe- rations. One of the Gentlemen of the Jury here mentioned, that A Juror was ill, and inquired if he would be allowed some water. The Court gave directions to have some watef brought to the Jury-room/ The Jury then retired again. A Bailiff was here called, and being sWorn, was required to keep all easement, fire and candle light excepted, from them. The Jury were then locked tap; and the Sheriff having beeo m told not to leave the Court, and to keep the gallery leading to the Jury-room clear of all persons, the Court adjourned to nine o'clock. At nine o'clock, Judges Burton and Vandeleur came into Court, and the Jury being ordered to attend, Judge Vandeleur inquired if they had agreed to their verdict? The Foreman said they had not agreed, and were not likely to agree. Judge Vandeleur then desired them to return to their room until nine o'clock next day, when the Court would again sit. The Jury then retired. The Court ordered the Sheriff to allow no communication whatever with the Jury, to lock the door of the Jury-room, and keep the key himself, and to place a Tipstaff of the Court upon the door all night. The Court adjourned to nine o'clock next morning. SIXTH DAY, Saturday, Feb. 8. At 20 minutes past ten o'clock, Mr. Justice Jebb, Mr. Jus- tice Burton, and Mr. Justice Vandeleur took their seats on the bench. The Attorney and Solicitor-General entered the Court shortly afterwards. Mr. Justice Jebb — Mr. Sheriff ask the Jury if they have agreed. The High Sheriff went to the Jury Room and having re- turned said — No my Lord they have not, nor cannot agree. Justice Jebb — Mr. Attorney-General, you have heard the answer of the Jury. Attorney-General. — I have my Lord, perhaps your Lord- ship would think proper to enquire, if there be a difference on any points of law which your Lordship could explain — we of Counsel for the Crown, do not think it right to interfere, my Lord. Justice Jebb. — Mr. Attorney- General, I think that the evi- dence has been so very fully and fairly explained by the Lord Chief Justice, and the points of law so distinctly and explicit- ly denned, that I fear the Court cannot give the Gentlemen of the Jury any further assistance — I shall ask them if they ha\e agreed as to any of the Traversers. Attorney-General. — In that case, my Lord, I have not any desire that the Jury should be called out — they have not yet agreed my Lord. Justice Jebb — Let the Jury be called out. The traversers were called, and appeared, they took their seats on the bench which had been appropriated tor their use during the trial, and which was erected on the left side of the C< urt from the Bench, and within the Lawyers' Bar. The Jury came into Court— they answered to their names. • 97 Mr. Francis Mills, Foreman, resumed the seat he had oc- cupied during the trial, next to the Judges, the four next Jurors sat in the same row with him, viz. : — Mr. Francis Mills, Mr. James Wyon, Mr. Abraham Kar- grave, and Mr. Edward Armstrong. On the second row sat Mr. Neil M'Kenny, on the extreme right next him, Mr. Thomas Fry, Mr. John Baker, and Mf. Thomas Parker. Behind them were, Mr. John Caldwell, Mr. Richard Dol- lard, Mr, Richard Annesley, and Mr. Isaac Tyndall. All the Jurors took possession of the places they had oc- cupied during the five preceding days. Mr. Justice Jebb — Gentlemen, have you agreed ? The Foreman — We have not, my Lord. Justice Jebb — We we wish to know if there be any diffi- culty relative to a point of law which we could explain to you. A Juror at the back of the box replied in a loud voice, " we have no difficulty on any point of law whatever." Justice Jebb — Gentlemen, have you agreed as to any of the traversers ? Foreman — We have, my Lord, as to William Brownlow. Justice Jebb — Gentlemen, (to the Jury,) you may retire* Attorney General — To the Chamber, my Lord. Justice Jebb — Oh, yes, certainly to the Chamber. The Jury retired. The Attorney and Solicitor Generals bowed and withdrew. Mr. Justice Jebb here inquired of Counsel for the Tra- versers, if they had any thing on their part to move. They severally replied they had not. Here the Ccurt ordered the stats of the outer bar to be cleared for the Lawyers. The traversers remained at the side Bar. The Attorney and Solicitor General returned, having been absent only a few minutes. Attorney General. My Lords, I wish to mention, that as the Jury have declared they cannot agree, I shall not on the part of the Crown stand in the way of any thing which your Lordships may think fit to adopt. Justice Jebb — The Court have the power to discharge the Jury wh«n the period arrives appointed by law, but as the Counsel for the Traversers do not make any objection, we are at liberty to discharge the Jury now. The Attorney General. — The Traversers will understand that the trial not having been disposed of, and the effect being to leave the case yet open, they will be still held over on their bail, for most undoubtedly this case shall agah; be brought be- fore the public. As to the time for si new trial, my Lords, Ss I beg your Lordships will understand that I hare not intimated any period, it would be too late for this Terra. Justice Jebb. — From the state of the Court, not this Term. Attorney-General — Certainly not, my Lord. The Jury were again called over, and asked by the Court if they had agreed ; they said that they had not ; but they re- turned a verdict of Not Guilty for William Brownlow, who was discharged. Justice Jebb. — Gentlemen of the Jury, the Counsel for the Crown, rinding that you are not likely to agree, have not of- fered any obstacles in the way of your discharge, you are ac- cordingly discharged. The Attorney-General, then addressieg the Court, said, " I do not mean to interfere with the Gentlemen of thejury, I only wish to intimate that nothing which has occurred, impe- des my taking further proceedings against the Traversers, in' case I should be advised so to do." The Traversers were then informed, that they would be still held on their recognizances; they were then allowed to with.* draw, Counsel for the Crown — The Attorney-General, the Solici- tor-General, Serjeant Lefroy, Serjeant Torrens, Mr. J. Sealy Townsend, and Mr. Green. — Agent, Mr. Kemmis,, Kildare street. Counsel for the Traversers — Messrs. Driscoll, R. Johnston, Blackburne, Rolleston, Hamilton, North, Scriven, Perrin, and Speare — Agent, Mr. George Fearon. FINIS.