CORNELL UNIVERSITY LIBRARY 3 1924 095 312 991 Trf^ Cornell University Library The original of this book is in the Cornell University Library. There are no known copyright restrictions in the United States on the use of the text. http://www.archive.org/details/cu31924095312991 lOHN LOCKE LETTERS CONCERNING TOLERATION BY lOHN |,OCKE LONDON, PRINTED FOR A. MILLAR, H. WOOD- FALL, I. WHISTON AND B.WHITE, I. RIVINGTON, L.DAVIS AND C. REYMERS, R.BALDWIN, HAWES CLARKE AND COLLINS, W.IOHNSTON, W. OWEN, S.CROWDER, T.LONGMAN, B.LAW, C.RIVINGTON, E. DILLY, R. WITHY, C. AND R.WARE, S.BAKER, T.PAYNE, A. SHUCKBURGH, M.RICHARDSON M D C C L X V FOR ON EARTH, WHO AGAINST FAITH AND CONSCIENCE CAN BE HEARD INFALLIBLE? YET MANY WILL PRESUME: WHENCE HEAVIE PERSECUTION iMJ Lh. PREFACE TO THIS EDITION. Reader, The merit of thefe Letters is too well eftabliflied to need any commendation. The name of the author is famous in all learned Nations. Wherefore I fliall acquaint thee, that the only motives to this publication, are the great importance of the fubjed: to FREE MEN, and the difficulty of obtaining a compleat copy of the Letters without the purchafe of three volumes in folio. The occafion of Mr Locke's writing on this fubjedl, it will be proper to mention. Having rendered himfelf obnoxious to the Court, which was aiming to fet up Popery and arbitrary power, he retired into Holland, about the beginning of the year i68;j, where, after fome time, he turned his thoughts to Religious Liberty, and compofed a Letter on Toleration, which he wrote in Latin, and printed in duodecimo, at Gouda, in 1689, under the fol- lowing title. " Epiftola de Tolerantia ; ad clariilimum virum T. A. R. p. T. o. L. A. [Theologiae apud Remonftrantes Profef- forera, Tyrannidis Oforem, Limburgium, Amftelodamenfem :] Sqripta a p. a. p. o. i. l. a. [Pacis Amico, Perfecutionis Ofore, Joanne Lockio, Anglo."] This Letter was tranflated into Englidi by Mr Popple, author of the " Rational Catechifm"; licenfed 1689; and printed twice in London : the firft time, in 1689 in quarto, and again, " The fecond edition correded," 1690, in duoc|ecimo. It was too much to be expected, that fuch a performance fliould pafs without animadverfion. Accordingly, there iffued from Oxford, printed at the Theatre, 1690, in quarto, a fmall tra It (C PREFACE TO THIS EDITION It may not be improper to obferve here, that though Mr Locke communicated occafionally with the National Church, and had the higheft refpea for its worthy Members ; yet, as fome perfons ffiU living have declared, during his long refidence at Oates, he generally attehded a Lay Preacher in that neighbourhood, to afTert, as is probable, that Liberty in his own Perfon, which he had ftrenuoufly contended for in behalf of all men. And it fhould be obferved, that though this Nation is greatly . obliged to Mr Locke for defending the caufe of religious Liberty in the ftrongeft and cleareft manner, yet the old writers are not to be forgotten, as they laid the Foundations ; which is the more neceffary to be noticed, as many have fuppofed him to have been the firft writer on this fubjedt, when really the argument was well underftood and publilhed during the civil war,, an Age wherein every topic of importance to Man and Society was difcuijed, as appears by feveral trads not unknown among the * Curious. It remains to acquaint thee, that the Author's original letter concerning Toleration, in latih, which was become exceeding Icarce and known to very feyv, is prefixed to this work ; that the feveral editions of thefe Letters have been compared, fome of which were negligen^y pirinted, as Mr Locke himfelf had com- plained ; and the utmoft care taken of this edition. If errors have flipt, I truft to have courteous pardon. Keader, farewel, The Editor. Jan. 1,1765 * There is likewife a valuable treatire of Mr Bayle's, intitled, ' Cgmmentaire * Philofophique fur ces Paroles de Jefus Chrifl-, " Contrain-les d'entrer;" ouTon * prouve, qu' il n'y a rien de plus abominable, que de faire des Converfions par k ' eontrainte : Et ou 1' on refute tous les Sophifmes des Convertiflfeiirs a contrainte, et * r Apologie que St Auguftin a faite des Perfecutions.' etc. publiftied 1686 C O N T E N T S EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA P. i A BETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION 29 A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION bj A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 117 A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATIOJST 381 EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA AD CLARISSIMUM VI RUM T-A-^R-PT-O-L-A- SCRIPTA A P • A P -O -I -L • A EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA Qnraerenti- tibi, vir claidffime, quid exiftimem de mutua inter Chriftianos: toleranria, breviter reijJondEO, hoc mihi videri praecipuum verae ecclefiae criterium. Quicquid enim. alii jadlant de locorum, et nominum antiquitate, vel cultus fplendore ;. alii de diiciplinae reformatione -, omnes denique de fide ecthodox^i, nam fibi quifque orthodoxus eft, haec et hujufmodi pofTunt efle homi-num de poteftate, et imperio contendentium, potius quam ecclefiae Ghri#i notae. Haec omnia qui poflidet, fi charitate deftituatur, fi manfiie- tudine, fi benevolentia erga omnes in univerfiim homines, nedum fidem Ghriftianam- profitentes, nondum eft Chriftianus. Reges gentium dominantur Us; "uos autem non Jic, Luc. xxii, dicit fiiis Salvator nofter. Alia res eft verae r^ligionis, non adexternam pompam, non ad dominationem ecclefiafti- caira, non denique ad vim; fed ad vitam redie pieque inftituendam natae. Primo omnium vitiis fiiis, faftui et libidini propriae helium debet indicere, qui in ecclefia Chrifti velit militare ; alias fine vitae fandtimonia, morum caftitate, animi benignitate et manfiaetudine, fruftra quaerit fibi nomen Chxiftiancum. Tu cormerjus conjirmafratres tuos, Luc. xxii, dixit Petro Do- minus nofter. Vix enim quifquam perfiaadebit, fe de aliena lalute mire efle foMcitnm, qui ne^igens eft fiiae : nemo fincere in id totis viribus incumbere poteft, ut alii fiant Chriftiani, qui religionem Chrifti animo fiio nondum ipfc revera. amplexus eft. Si enim Evangelio, fi Apoftolis credendum fit, fine charitate^ fine fide per amor em., ncn per vim, operante nemo Chriftianus efiie peteft. An veto illi qui rcligionis praetextu alios vexant, lacerant, fpoliant, jugulant, id amico et benigno animo agant, ipforum teftor confcientiam ; et tum denique credam, cum zelotas iilos videro amicos et familiares fijos, con- tra Evangelii praecepta manifefte peccantes, eundem in modum corrigere j fiiofque afleclas vitiorum corruptela tados, et fine mutatione in meliorem frugem certo perituros, ferro et igne aggredi ; et amorem fiium atque falutis animarum defiderium omni crudelitatis et tormentorum genere teftari. Si enim, uti prae fe ferunt, charitate, et ftudio erga eorum animas, bonis exuant, corpora mutilent, carcere et paedore macerent, vita denique ipfa privent, ut fideles, ut falvi fiant, cur fcortat'tonem, verfutiam, malitiam, et alia quae Eth- nicifmum tarn apertc fapiunt, teftante Apoftolo, Rom. i, impune inter fuos grafi"ari permittunt ? cum haec et hujufmodi magis adverfentur Dei gloriae^ ecclefiae puritati, et faluti animarum, quam erronea quaevis contra decifiones- ecclefiafticas confcientiae perfuafio, vel in externo cultu defedlus cum vitae innocentia conjundus ? Cur inquam zelus ille pro Deo, pro ecclefia, pro fa- lute animarum ufque ad vivicomburium ardens, flagitia ilia et vitia moralia Chriftianae profcffioni, omnibus fatentibus-, e diametro contraria, fine cafti- gatione, fine animadverfione praeteriens, in corrigendis opinionibus, iifque plerumque de rebus fubtilibus, vulgique captum fuperantibus, vel ceremo- niis ingerendis unice haeret, et omnes nervos fu,os intendit ? Quae inter dif- B z Mestes EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA Tidentes de his rebus fanior fit, quaeve fchifmatis vel haerefeos rea, an domi- natrix vel fuccumbens pars, turn demum conftabit, cum de caufS feparationis judicabitur. Qui enim Chriftum fequitur ejufque ampleditur dodtnnam, et jugum fufcipit, etiamfi patrem et matrem, patrios ritus, caetum publicum, et quofcunque demum homines relinquat, non eft haereticus. Quod fi feftarum divortia adeo adverfentur faluti animarum, adulfertum, Jcortatio, immunditia, lafcivia, Jimulacrorum cidtus, et his ^mtha, non^ lunt minus opera camis, de quibus diferte pronuntiat Apoftolus, quod qm taha agunt regni Dei haeredes non erunt. Gal. v. Haec igitur non minora cura et induftria, quam fediae, penitus extirpanda, fi quis de regno Dei fincere (o- licitus in ejus pomeriis ampliandis fibi elaborandum ferio judicaverit. Quod fi quifquam aliter fecerit -, et dum erga diverfa fentie'ntes immitis, et impla- cabilis eft, peccatis interim et morum vitiis, Chriftiano nomine indignis, par- cat, palam demonftrat, quantumvis crepat ecclefiam, fe aliud, non Dei reg- num quaerere. Si quis animam, cujus falutem vehementer optaf, velit per cruciatus, etiam nondum converfam, efflari, mirabor fane, et mirabuntur, puto, mecum alii; fed itatamen, ut nemo ufpiam credat hoc ab amore, a benevolentia, a charitatepoflfe proficifci. Si homines igne et ferro ad certa dogmata ampleftenda funt im- pellendi, et ad externum cultum vi cogendi, de quorum tamen moribus nulla omnino fit quaeftio ; fi quis heterodoxos ita convertat ad fidem, ut cogat ea profiteri, quae non credunt, et permittat ea agere, quae Evangelium Chri- ftianis, fidelis fibi non permittit; ilium velle numerofum coetum eadem fe- cum profitentium non dubito ; velle autem ecclefiam Chriftianam, quis eft qui potefl: credere ? Non mirandum igitur, fi utantur armis militiae C-hri- ftianae non debitis, qui, quicquid prae fe ferunt, pro vera religione et ecclefia Chriftiana non militant. Si, uti Dux falutis noftrae, fincere cuperent falutem animarum, illius infifterent veftigiis, et optimum illud principis pacis feque- rentur exemplum', qui fatellites Tuos non ferro, non gladio, non vi armatos, fed Evangelio, fed pacis nuntio, morum fandtitate et exemplo inftrudlos, ad fubjugandas gentes, et in ecclefiam cogendas emifit : Cui tamen, fi vi et ar- mis convertendi efi!ent infideles, fi armato milite ab erroribus revocandi cae- cutientes, vel obftinati mortales, paratior erat caeleftium legionum exercitus, quam cuivis ecclefiae patrono, quantumvis potenti, fuae funt cohortes. Tolerantia eorum qui de rebus reb'gionis diverfa fentiunt, Evangelio et ra- tioni adeo confona eft, ut monftro fimile videatur, homines in tarn clara luce caecutire. Nolo ego hie aliorum incufare faftum, et ambitionem ; aliorum intemperiem, et zelum charitate et manfuetudine deftitutum : haec funt vitia humanis rebus forfan non eximenda, fed tamen ejufmodi, ut ea nemo fibi aperte imputari velit ; nemo pene eft, qui his in tranfverfum afius aliena et honefta fpecie tedis non quaerat laudem. Ne quis autem perfecutioni et faevitiae parum Chriftianae curam reipublicae et legum obfervantiam prae- texat, et e contra ne alii religionis nomine fibi quaerant morum licentiam et delidorum impunitatem : Ne quis, inquam, vel ut fidus principis fubditus, vel ut fincerus Dei cultor, fibi vel aliis imponat ; ante omnia inter res civi- tatis, et religionis diftinguendum exiftimo, limitefque inter ecclefiam, et rem- publican^ EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA publicam rite definiendos. Si hoc non fit, nuUis litibus modus ftatui poteft, inter eos, quibus falus animarum, aut reipublicae, vel revera cordi eft, vel efle iimulatur. Relpublica mihi videtur focietas hominum folutnmodo ad bona civilia con- fervanda promovendaque conftituta. Bona civilia voco, vitam, libertatem, corporis integritatem, et indolentiam, et rerum externarum polTeffiones, ut funt latifundia, pecunia, fupellex, &c. Harum rerum ad banc vitam pertinentium pofleffionem juftam omni uni- verfim populo, et fingulis privatim fubditis, fartam tedtam fervare ofBcium eft magiftratus civilis, per leges ex aequo omnibus pofitas ; quas fi quis con- tra jus fafque violare yellet, illius comprimenda eft audacia metu poenae j quae confiftit vel in ablatione, vel imminutione eorum bonorum, quibus alias frui et potuit, et debuit. Quum vero nemo parte bonorum fuorum iponte muldkatur, nedum libertate, aut vita; ideo magiftratus adpoenam alieni ju- ris violatoribus infligendam vi armatus eft, toto fcilicet ftibditorum fuorum robore. Quod vero ad bona haec civilia unice fpedat tota magiftratus jurifdidio, et in iis folis curandis promovendifque terminatur, et circumfcribitur omne civilis poteftatis jus et imperium; nee ad falutem animarum aut debet aut poteft uUo modo extendi, fequentia mihi videntur demonftrare. Primo. Quia animarum magiftratui civili plus quam aliis hominibus non demandatur cura. Non a Deo ; quia nufquam apparet Deum hujufmodi authoritatem hominibus in homines tribudife,^ ut poflint alios ad fuam reli- gionem ampledtendam cogere. Non ab hominibus magiftratui poteft ejuf- modi tribui poteftas ; quia nemo poteft ita falutis fuae aeternae curam abji- cere, ut quam alter, five princeps five fiibditus, praefcripferit cultum vel fidem necefi!ario ampledtatur. Quia nerno ex alterius praefcripto poteft, fi vellet, credere ; in fide autem confiftit verae et falutiferae religionis vis et efiicacia. Quicquid ,enim ore profiteris, quicquid in cultu externo praeftes, fi hoc et ve- rum efiTe, et Deo placere tibi intus in corde penitus perfiiafiim non fit, non modo non prodeft ad falutem, verum e contrario obeft ; quandoquidem hoc modo aliis peccatis, religione expiandis, addatur cumuli loco ipfius religionis fimulatio Numinifque contemptus, cum eum Deo O. M.* offers cultum quem credis ipfi difplicere. Secundo. Cura animarum non poteft pertinere ad magiftratum civilem : quia tota illius poteftas confiftit in coadtione. Cum autem vera et falutifera religio confiftit in interna animi fide, fine qud nihil apudDeum valet; ea eft liumani intelleftus natura, ut nulla vi externa cogi pofiSt. Auferantur bona, carceris cuftodia, vel crucial us poena urgeatur corpus, fruftra eris, fi his fup- pliciis mentis judicium de rebus mutare velis. Sed dices, magiftratus poteft argumentis uti, adeoque heterodoxos in veri- tatem pertrahere et falvos facere. Efto ; Jed hoc illi cum aliis hominibus commune eft : fi doceat, fi inftruat, fi argumentis errantem revocet, facit fane quod virum bonum decet i non nccefle elt magiftratui vel hominem vel Chri- ftianum exuere. Verum aliud eft fuadere, Sliud imperare : aliud argumentis, aliud edidis contendere. Quorum hoc eft poteftatis civilis, illud benevo^ lentiac E P I S f O LA i) E T G L E R ANT 1 A lentiae liumanae. Cuivis eriim mortaliurh integrum- eft monerci hortiaiji er- roris ai-guere, rationibufque in fenttentiam fuatn adcfuc6f6 : fed tHagiltratus proprium eft, ediftis jubere, gladio cogere. Hoc eft igitur quod d5tbi Ici'- Kdet quod pjateflras civilis non debet articulos fidei, live dbg|mat^-, veT modbls co- lendi Deum lege civili praefcribere. Si enim miHae adjttn«6tae- fmt poerfate, kgum vis perit j fi poetilae intententur,- eae plane inepftae' fo*»t et minimead perfuadendum aecommodae. Si quis ad- animae ialiil!ehi- dfcfgiiia aliqu'od, vel cultum ampleai velit, ex animo credaf opoi'tct dogma illud >^erum efle, cul- tum autem Deo gratum et acceptum foi'ej- hujufmodi vero- pidthtixoti'tni animis inftillare poena quaevis minima poteft. Luce opiis eft ut mutetur ani- mi fententia, quam nullo modo foeneratu'r cor^ris fii^plicium'. Tertio. Cura falutis animarum riuHo liiod'o piertine¥e poteft ad magiftra- tum civilem ; quia dato quod legum authoritas er po6riaTiMi' vis efficiai eflfet ad converteridas hominum mentes, hoc tamen nihil prodeffe?t a!d- fekitem ani- marum. Cum enim uniea fit vera reHgi6,- una quae ad beatas' ducit fed^es via, quaefpes majorem hominum illuc perventurum numerum, fi ea mortali- bus data effet conditio;, ut quifque pbfthaibito ratioffis et conMbhtia^ filae didamihe, deberet coeca mente amplefti pftecipis fiii dogmata, et eo' mocfo Deum colere, protit patriis legibus .ftatuttim eft? Inter to quae d^cit in coelttm,- pducis adrhodum efle apertam, idque ivt una Iblfrm te- eione : et, quod maxime hac iri re abfiirdtm effet et Deo indigfaurn, aeterna lelicitas vel cruciatus unice dfeberetor ttafeendi forti. Haee inter multa alia, quae: ad baile rem affef ri poferant, fofflcere nfnfti vi- dentur, ut ftatuamus omnem reipublicae poteftatfem verfafi circa bona ilia ci- vilia, et intra reriim hujus faeeuli euram eontineri, neque ea efaae ad fttturatn fpedtant vitam ulktenus attingere. Nunc videarnius quid fit ecclefia. Eeclefia mihi vide'tnr focietas libera hominum fponte fixa coeuntium ut Deum pabliee colant eo modo qtiem cre- dunt Numini acceptum fore ad falntem animarum. Dico effe fodetatem liberam et voluntariam. Nemo nafcitur alicujus eccle- fiae membrum, alias patris avorumque religio jure haereditario fimul cum la~ tifundiis ad quemque defcenderet, et fidem quifque deberet natalibus : quo nihil abfurdius excogitari poteft. Ita igitur fe res habet. Homo nuUi a na- turS obftriftus ecclefiae, nuUi addiftus fedtifei illi fe fponte adjungit focietati ubi veram religionem cultumque Deo gratum credit fe inveniflfe. Spes vera ialutis quam illic reperit, uti unica intrandi in ecclefiam caula, ita pariter et illic manendi menfura. Quod fi deprehendierit aliquid vel in doftrina erro- neum, vel in cultu incongruum, eadem libertate, qua ingreffus' eft, fempec ipfi pateat exitus neceffe efti nulla enim effe poffunt indiflolttbilia vinctila, nifi quae cum certa vitae aeternae expedtatione conjundia funt. Ex membris ita Ipbnte fua et hunc in finem unitis coalefcit ecclefia. Sequitur jam ut inquiramus quae fit ejus poteftas, q^iibufque legibus fubjefta. Quandoquidem nulla, quantumvis libera, aut levi de caufa inftituta fo- ciefas, five ea fuerit literatorum, ad philofophiam ; five mercatorum, ad ne- gotiai EPISTO:L,A D'E TOLERANTIA gptia ; fivp denique feriatorum hominum, ad inutuos fermones, et animi caufa, fubfiftere poteft, quin illico diffoluta interibit, fi omnibus deftituta fit legibus : ridep piecefle eft rUt fuas etiam habeat ecclefia ; ut loci, temporifque quibus coQtps coeant, Jiabeatur ratio i ut conditiones proponantur, quibus qqifque in .jlbcietatem, vel admittatur, vel ab ejaiCXcliidatur ; ut denique mu- ncTutifi div^fjtas, rerumque conftituatur ordo, et his fimilia. Cum vero .fponta.nea,fit, ,uu4enionftratumeft, coalitioab omni vi cogente libera, fequi- tur necdjfario, quod jus legum condendarum penes nullum nifi ipfam focie- tatepi eflbjpoteft, vel illos faltem, quod eodem recidit, quos ipfa focietas af- fenfu ffiio comprobaverit. Sed>idiees, vera eflenon poteft ecclefia, quae.Epifcppum vel Preibyterium non habet, guberpandi authoritate, derivata abipfis ufque Apoftolis, continua ,et-Jipn interrupta,fnGceflioneinftru<9:umk Pfipip, Rogo i}t ediftum oftendas, ubi banc legem ecclefiae fuae ppfujt Chrjftus ; nee vanus ero, fi difeFta in re tanti momenti verba requiram. Aliud ;foadere videtur effatum iUlud : Ubicunque duo vel tres congregantur in .meo nomine t ibi ego ero in medio if forum. An coetui, in cuj us medio erit .Chriftus, aliquid deerit.ad veram ecclefiam, ,ipfe vid.eris. Nihil certe illic deefle poteft ad Veram falutem : quod ad rem noftram fufRqit. Secundo, Viideas quaefo illos, qui recSores ecclpf^ae a Chrifto inftitutos et ,fVj[|ceffione,continjaandos yplunt, in ipfb limine inter fe diffentientes. Lis haec neceflario pernjittit elig^ndi libertatem, fcilicet ut iptegrum fit cuivis ad earn aecedere, qvjamjipfe pi-aefert ecclefiam, Tertio, Hi^bj^ajs q^^erp tibi praeponas -neceffariumque credis hujufmodi longa feriedefigoatutnjredloremj dumego interim me iftifocietatiadjungq, in qua raihi.peffviiafij«ifeft.Tepertvim;iri e^ quae gd. animae falutem funt ne- .ceifaria. Itaque utrique noftrum falva eft, quam pofeis, ecclefiaftica liberta^, nec,alt€ruter alium,h4bet, quam quern ipfe fibi elegerit legiflatorem. Quandoquidem avitem de vera ecclefia adeo folicitus es, obiter hie rogare .liceat, a,n non v^raeecclffige Chrifti magis conveniat eas communioniscpn- ditionesftabilire, quib|is.,ijla, et ill3;fola continentqr, quae Spiritus fandtusin ■Sacra Scripturaclare, et difertis verbis docuit, ,ad falutem effe neceffaria ; quam fua vel , ipventa, vel interpretamenta, tanquam kgepi divinam ob- trudere, -et ea tanqua,m ad; profefllonem Cbfiftianam omni'no neceffaria legi- bus ecclefiafjicis fancire, de quibus aut nihil prorfus, aut non decretofie fal- tem pronunciarunt.eloquia divina? Qui ea pofcit ad communionem eccle- fiafticam, quae Chriftus non pofcit ad vitani aeternam ; ille ad fuam opini- onem, et utilita^tern forte, focietatern cppapaode conftituit; fed ea Chrifti qucTOodo dicenda, quae alienis inftitutis ftabpityr ecclefia j et ex qua illi ex- cluduntur, quos plim r^cipiet Chdftus in regnum coelorum ? Sed cum verae eccle§^e,notas.ind^gare hujus loci non fit, ,je,os fa}|em qui pro fuae focietatis placitis tam.aeriter contendunt, ret nihil nifijecclefiani,. non minore ftrepitu, et forfan eodepiijiftindtu, quo ohm argentarii iJH Ephefii Dianfim fuam, ASl. XIX. continuo crepant, unum hoc monitos vellem, Evangelium fci- licet pafiim teftari, veros Chrifti difcipulos expedtare, et pati debere perfecu- tiones : veram autem Chrifti ecclefiam alios perfequi, aut infedari debere ; I • vel EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA vel \i, ferro, et flammis ad fidem, et dogmata fua ampledenda cogere, non memini me ufpiam in Novo Teftamento legifle. Finis focietatis rdigiofae, uti didum, eft, cultus Dei publicus, et per eunv vitae aeternae acquifitio. Eo igitur collimare debet tota difciplina j his fini- bus circumfcribi omnes leges ecclefiafticae. Nihil in hac focietate agitur, nee agi poteft, de bonorum civilium, vel terrenorum pofTeffione ; nulla hie, quacunque de caufa, adhibenda vis, quae omnis ad magiftratum civilem per- tineti bonorumque externorum poffeffio, et ufus illius JTubjacet poteftati. Dices : Quae igitur fandtio leges ecclefiafticas ratas habfebit, fi coadlio om- nis abefle debet ? Refp. Ea fane quae convenit rebus, quarum externa pro- feffio, et obfervantia nihil prodeft, nifi penitus animis infideant i plenumque eonfcientiae aflenfum in his obtineant ; nempe hortationes, monita, confilia, arma funt hujus fbcietati?, quibus membra in officio continenda. JSi his non corrigantur delinquentes, errantefque reducantur in viam, nihil aKud reftat, nifi ut reludtantes, et obftinati, nullamque melioris frugis de fe fpem prae- bentes, a focietate prorfus fejunfti rejiciantur. Haec fuprema et ultima eft poteftatis ecclefiafticae vis, quae nullam aliam infert poenam, nifi quod, ceC- fente relatione inter corpus membrumque abfciSatOy damnatus definit eccle- fiae illius efle pars. - His ita conftitutis, inquiramus porro quae cujufque funt circa Tolerantiam officia. Primo, Dico quod nulla ecclefia tenetur tolerantiae nomine eum finu fuo fovere, qui monitus obftinate peccat contra leges in ea focietate ftabilitas j quas fi cui impune violare licet, de focietate adtum eft ; cum hae fint, et com- munionis conditiones, et unicum focietatis vinculum. Veruntamen caven- dum eft, ne excommunicationis decreto adjiciatur vel verborum contumelia, vel fafti violentia, qua vel corpus ejedi, vel bona quoquo modo laedantnr. Vis enim tota, uti-didtum, magiftratus eft, nee privato cuivis permiffa, nifi folum ut illatam repellat. Excommunicatio nihil bonorum civilium, quae aut privatim poffidebat, excommunicato aufert, aut auferre poteft. Ea om- nia ad civilem ftatum pertinent, et magiftratus tutelae fubjiciuntur. Ex*- communicationis vis tota in eo unice confiftit, ut declarata focietatis volun- tate, folvatur unio inter corpus et membrum aliquod, qua ccffante relatione necefiTario cefl&t quarundam rerum communio, quas membris fuis tribuit fb- cietas ; ad quas nemo jus habet civile. Nulla enim fadla eft excommuni- cato civilis injuria, fi minifter ecdefiae panem et vinum non illius,, fed aliena pecunia emptum, illi non dat irt eelebratione coenae dominicae. Secundo, Nemo privatus alterius bona civilia quoquo modo invadere, aut imminuere debet, propterea, quod a fua religione fuifque ritibus alienum fe profiteatur. Omnia illi tam humanitatis quam civitatis jura fandte confer- vanda : religionis haec non funt : five Chriftianus fit, five ethnicus, ab omni vi, et injurif temperandum. Juftitiae menfura benevolentiae et charitatis officiis cumulanda. Hoc jubet Evangelium; fuadet ratio; et; quam conci'- liavit natura, hominum inter ipfos communis focietas. Si a redlo tramite aberrat, fibi foli errat mifer, tibi innocuusj nee igitur a te male muldlandus debet hujus vitae bonis excidere, quod in futuro faeculo credis periturum. Quod. EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA * Quod de mutud prlvatorum hominum inter fe de religione diffidentium tolerantia dixi, id etiam de ecclefiis particularibus didum volo, quae inter fe privatae quodammodo funt perfonae, nee altera in alteram jus aliquod habet, ne turn quidem, fi forte accidat, cum magiftratus civilis hujus vel illius ec- clefiae fit : quandoquidem refpublica nullum jus novum tribuere poteft eccle- fiae, uti nee vice verf^ ecclefia reipublicae : fiquidem ecclefia, five magiftratus ei fe adjungat, five deferat, manet femper eadem, quae ante, Kbera et volun- taria focietas ; nee acccdente magift:ratu gladii poteftatcm acquirit j nee de- cedente, quam prius habuit docendi excorhmunicandive, amittit difciplinam. Hoc fpontaneae focietatis femper erit immutabile jus, ut ex fuis, quos vifum fuerit, abalienare poflit : nuUam vero quorumvis acceffione acquirat in alienos jiirifdidlionem, Quare pax, aequitas, et amicitia inter diverfas ecclefias, uti inter privatos homines, fine juris alicujus praerogativa femper, et aequabiliter colenda. Ut exemplo res clara fiat, ponamus Conflantinopoli duas, alteram Remon- ftrantium, alteram Antiremonftrantium ecclefias. An aliquis dicat alteri earum jus competere, ut diflentientes alios, quod diverfa habent, vel dogmata vel ritus, libertate, vel bonis ipolxet, quod alibi fadlum videmus : vel exilio, vel capite puniat ? tacente interim, et ridente Turca, dum Chriftiani Chrifti- ands crudelitate et lanien^ vexant. Si vero altera harum ecclefiarum in alte- ram faeviendi habet poteftatem, rogo quaenam ex duabus, etquojure ? Re- i^ondebitur fine dubio Orthodoxa in errantem, vel haereticam. Hoc eft magnis et fjjeciofis verbis nihil dicere. Quaelibet ecclefia fibi orthodoxa eft, aiiis erronea, vel haeretica ; fiquidem quae credit vera efle credit, quae in di- verfum abeunt erroris damnat. Itaque de dogmatum veritate, de cultus rec- titudine, inter utramque lis aequa eft, nulla judicis, qui nullus aut Conftan- tinopoli aut in terris eft, fententia componenda. Quaeftionis decifio ad fu- premum omnium hominum judicem unice perlinet, ad quem etiam folum pertinet errantis caftigatio. Interim cogitent, quanto gravius illi peccant, qui, fi -non errori, faltem fuperbiae addunt injuftitiam, dum alieni domini fer- vos, fibi minime obnoxios, temere et infolenter dilacerant. Quod fi certo conftare poffit, quaenam. inter diifidentes red:e de religione fentiret, non inde accrefceret orthodoxae ecclefiae poteftas alias fpoliandi ; cum ecclefiarum in res terreftres nulla fit jurifdidlio : nee ferrum, et ignis ad errores arguendos, mentefque hominum, aut informandas, aut. convertendas idonea funt inftrumenta. Fac tamen alteri parti favere magiftratuni civilem, faumque illi praebere velle gladium; ut heterodoxos, fe annuente, quocun- que-velit modo caftiget. An a Turca Imperatore ecclefiae Chriftianae in fra- tres jus aliquod accedere pofTe quis dixerit ? Infidelis, qui fua authoritate Ghriftianos ob fidei dogmata punire non poteft, focietati cuivis Chriftianae au- thoritatem iftam minime poteft impertire, nee jus, quod ipfe non habet, dare. Eandem rationem in Chrifliano efle regno cogita. Poteftas civilis ubique eadem eft, nee majprem poteft tribuere ecclefiae authoritatem in manu prin- cipis Chriftiani, quam ethnici, id eft, nuUam. Quanquam hoc obferviatu f^rte -dignum eft, quod animdfiores hi veritatisfatellites, errorum opprigna- teres, fchifmatum impatientes, zelum iftum fuum pro Deo, quo toti accen- C duntur. ;epistola de tolerantja duntur, 'et ardent, nufpiaiji pene exprpniunt, ntfi ubj^ |av?A W^i tafepnt magiftratun? civiler ----- • ' -'-- bus funt fuperiores, magiftratun? civilem. Ubi primum gratia' apud m^giftraJiu^, atjgoque viri- funt fuperiores, violand^ illico pax, et chari^as <;:^riftiap»} alias CQlen4^ efl mutua tqlerantia. Quaqdo robpre civili impares. fqnt, iniip?^ie, et pa- tienter ferre poffunt, a quo tantpin fibi et religioRX alj^ metuunt, iddolatriae, fupejftitionis, haerefeos ^ vicinia contagium : nee libentef aut feryi^P ^r- guendis erroriIi|is, qui aniae, et magiftratui pkcei^t, ij^p^i^dunt qperatn j qu^ tamen vera et fpl^ eft prpp^gandae verit^tis paptiieidw?, jui»^a fcilice^ cum humaoitate et beneyolentia ratipnum et argunaentorum ppndere. Nullae igitur five perlbnae, fiye.ecclefiae, iiye denf^iim refpublica^ jus ali- quod habere poflunt bonaciyilJa invicem iniv^4e»4i feque mutup r?b^s' mun- danis ipoliandi, fub praetextu religbnis. (^ ajitgr (ei)tiun|, velipi %um re- putent, quam infinitam praebent humano generi litium e^ bpl^upi niateT riem : quantum ad rapinas et caedes et aeterna odia incitamentum : nee uf-, piam fecuritas aut pax, neduna amicitia ioter hpminea ft^biliri au^ fubfiftpre poteft, fi ea obtineat opinio. Dominium fcilicet fundari in Gratia : et religio- nem vi et armis propagandam. 3. Videamus quid Tolerantiae officium exigit ab iis» qui a reliqup cpeti% et gente laica, uti Ipqui amant, chara.(Stere et munere aliqup ecclefiaftico di-, ftingua«tur, five fint epifcopi, iaqerdotes, prefbyteri, miniftri, vei qupcu.nq.u& alio nomine venia,nt. De origine five pot^ftatis. fivie dignitatis clericae jam, non eft inquiren^i Ipcus : hoc tamen dico ; ufldec^nQiiie ofta eft eorum ^u- thorita,s, cum fit ecclefiaftica, inter ecclefia? caacellos debet coerceri, nee ad res civiles quovis modo poteft extendi : quandoquidem ip£a ecclefia a repub-^: lica rebufque civilibus prorfiis fejunfta eft et feparata. Fixi et imniQbiileSy fiint utrique limites. Coelum et terram, res dlsjundtiffimas, mifcet qui hasis duas focietates, origine, fine, materia, toto coelo div^rfas velit confundere. Quare nemo, quocunque demum munere ecclefiaftica orn^tus, poteft quem- vis honjiniim, a fiaa ecclefia vel fid^e ali^ium, vita, libertate> aut quavis bp- norum terreftrium parte muldlare religionis cau^. Quod enim integrae nort , licitum eft ecclefiae, id alicui ejus membro jure ecclefiaftico licere noj* poteft. Nee viris ecclefiaftieis fatis eft a vi et rapina et omnimoda perfecutioae ab- .ftinerei qui fe fiicceflbrem profitetur Apoftoloruna, etdocendi munus in fe . fufcepit, , tenetur porro monere fiios de pacis et benevolently ofSciis erga omnes homines -, tam erroneos quam orthodoxos^, tam fecum fei^tientes quam. a fide fiia vel ritibus alienos, et cundfeos, five privatos five rempublicam ge- rentes, fi qui hujufinodi fint in fiia ecclefia, ad, charitatem, manfiietu.dinem> tolerantiam hortari, omnemque illam averfationem et contra heterodpxps animi ardorem compefcere et lenire, quern aut fiius cu|ufque pro fijareligione et fedta feroculus zelus, aut aliorum aftus in menlibus accenderit. C^ui et qpantus tam in ecclefia quam republica perciperetur frudtus, fi dodtrina pacis- et tolerantiae refonarent pulpita, nolo, dicere, nequid grav^us. a me diE TOjLERANTIA fuae abunde fit et Jaute, anne omnes lege tenebuntur mercaturam vel mufi- cam exercere ? an quifque fiet vel caupo, vel faber, quibus artijjus aiiqui fatis- commode familiam fuam fuftentant, opibufque augent? Sed dices, : QMeftusi mille funt artes, unica faliitis via. Redie fane didtum, . ab ii& praefertim, qui ad banc vel illam cogere yellent : nam fi plures eflfeot, ne cogendi quidem inveniretur praetextus. Quod , fi ego j^cundum -geographiam facram redta Hierofolymas tQti& viribus contendo, cur vapulo quod non cothnrnatus fer- fan, vel certo modo lotus vel tonfus incedO:j quod carnibus in itinere.vefcor, vel vidu utor ftomacho et valetudini commodo ; quod hinc inde aliqua di- verticula vito, quae mihi videntur in praecipitia vel vepreta deducere ? vel in- ter varies, qui ejufdeiji viae funtet eodem tendentis, calles eum feligoqui mi- nime finuofus cpenqfufve apparet ? Quod illi minus modefti, hi mprofiotes^ vifi funt quam quibus me libenter vellem adjungere comitem ; vel quod ba- beo vel non habeo mityatum vel alba ftok indutum itineris ducem ? Nam- profedto fi r-ecSe rem reputemus, hujufinodi plerumque funt minpris momertti res, quae fratres Chriftianps de fumma religionism eadera et.refte fentientes- tam acriter committunt, et quae falva religione et animarum falute, modo- abfit fuperftitio vel.hypoerifisj.poffint vel obfervari vel omitti. • - Verum demus zelotis, et omnia quae fua non funt damnantibtis, ex his-, circumftautiis diverfas et in diverfa tendentes nafci vias i quid tandem pro- ficiemus ? Unica ex his revera falutis fit via, Verum inter mille, quas ho- mines ingrediuntur, de redta ambigitur : npc cura reipub^cae, nee legum condendarum jus, illam quae ducit ad coelum viam, magiftratui certius de-.- tegit, quam fuum private ft:udi,um.,r Debile trabo corpus et gravi raorboJan^ guidum, cujus unicam eamque ignotam ponamus effe medelam. Ideone. magiflratus eft praefcribere remedium, quia unicum tantum eft,-idque inter tot varia ignotum ? Ideqne quia unicum quo mortem evitem mihiagendura reil^t^ id quod jubet fieri magiftratus erittutum? QiMie a fingulis jftudio,.; confilio, judicio, cogitatione, et fincera mente indagandaj ' ea Bon uni alicuL. hpminum forti, tanquamjpfi propria, tribuendafunt. Nafcuntur principes poteftaie fuperiores; natura vero aequales reliquis mortalibus, nee regnandi jus yel peritia fecum trahit aliarumrerum certam cognitionem, nedum reli- gionis verae : fi enim ita effet» qui fit quod de febus religionis tam in diver- . funj. abeunt terrarum dpmini ? Sed dpmus verofimile tSk, viam ad vitanv . aeternam principi efifi quam fubditis notiorem : vel faltem tutius commodi-, ufve efle in hae reruni ineertitudine illius mandatis obtemperare. Dices igi- tur, aa fi te juberet mercatura vidiuni quaerere, recufares, quia dubitares an hac arte quaeftum faceres? Refp. Mercator fierem jubente principe : quiafi- male fuccederet, ille oleuin et operam mercatura perditam potens eft alio, mpdo abunfle refarcire; et fi fqmem. pauperiemque, uti prae fe feit, a me aqiotam velit, id facile ipraeftarepoteft, fi^mea omnia abfiimpferit infoelicis, roercaturaemak fors. Verum hoc non fit In rebus vitae futurae. Si illic. male operam locavero; fi illic femel fpe excidi, magiftratus nequaquam po- teft refafcire damnum, levare malum, nee me in aliquam partem, muito mi- nus in.integrurn reftituere, Qua"fpt^fione de regno coelorum cavebitur ? Dijces forte» magiftratui civUi de rebus ikcris certuoi* <|uod fequi omnes de,- ' bent* EPISTOLA DE TQLERANTIA bent, non tribulmus judicium, fed ecclefiae. Quod definivit ecclefia id mac- giftratus civilis ab omnibus obfervari jubet, et nequis aliud inXacris vel agat vel credat quam quod docet eeclefia, authoritate fua cavet : adeo Tit judicium fit penes ecclefiam ; obfequium magiftratus ipfe praeftat, et ab aliis exigit. Reip. Venerandum illud Apoilolorum tempore ecclefiae nomen, fequioribus faeculis ad fucum faciendum non raro ufurpatum fuifle, quis non videt ? praefenti faltem in re nihil opis nobis affert. Ego unicam illam anguftam quaeadcoelum ducit femitam, magiftratBi non magis notam effe dico quamt privatis; ideoque tuto eum non pofTum fequi dueem, qui cum viae poteft eife aeque ignarus, de mea certe falute non jjoteft non effe minus folicitus quam ego ipfe. Inter tot gchtis Hebraeae reges quotufquifque fait, quem fecutus aliquis Ifraelita, non a. vero cultu Dei deflexiifet in idololatriam, in certam perniciem coeca hujufmodi abedientia ruiturus ? Tu contra bono me effe animo jubes, in tuto dicis res eft ; jam enim ma:giftratus non fua fed ec- clefiae de rebus religionis decreta populo obfervanda proponit, et fandlionc civili ftabilit. Sed rogo cujus demum ecclefiae ? Illius fcilicet quae principr placet. Quafi vero ille de religione fuum non interponit judicium, qui me in banc vel illam ecclefiam lege, fupplicio, vi cogit ? .Quid intereft five ipfe me ducat, five aliis ducendum tradat ? ex illius pariter perjdeo volontate, et de- mei falute utrimque aeque fliatuit. Quanto fecurior Jndaeus, qui ex edidto regis Baali fe adjunxit, quod ipfi diftum fit, regetti fuo arbitrio nihil in reli- gione ftatuere/ njj^il fubditis in cultu divino injungere, nifi quod facerdotum eoncilio et illius religionis myfl:is comprobatum et pro divino habitum ? Si ideo vera, ideo falutifera fit alicujus ecclefiae religio, quia fedtae illius antifti- tes, facerdotes, affeclae earn laudant, prSedicant, et quantum poffunt fuffragiia fuis commendant : quae tandem erit erronea, falfa, pernicio&? De Socinr- anorum fide dubito ; Pontificiorum vel Lutheranorum cultus mihi fufpeftus eft J an igitur tutior mihi ingreffus eft in banc vel ilfem ecclefiam, jubente- magiftratu, quod ille nihil imperat, nihil de religione fancit, nifi ex autho- ritate et eonfilia do6:orum ifl:ius ecclefiae ? Qj^nquam fi verum dicere volu- mus, facilius plerumque fe aulae accommodat ecclefia, fi ita dicendus fit ec- clefiafticorum decreta facientium conventus, quam aula ecclefiae. Sub prin- cipe orthodoxo vel Ariano qualis fuit ecclefia fatis notum. Sed fi haec nimis; remota, recentiora nobis offert Anglorum hiftoria, quam belle, quam prom- pte, ecclefiaftici decreta, fidei articulos, cultum, ©maia ad nu'tum principis-' componebant fub Henrico, Eduardo, Maria, Elizabetha : qui prineipes tami diverfa de religione et fentiebant et j.ubebant, ut nemo nifi "amens, pener dixeram atheus, afferere audeat„ quemvis virum probmn et veri Dei cultoremi poffe falva confcientia, falva erga Deum vencratione, eorum- de reKgione de- eretis obtemperare. Sed quid multa ? Si rex, five ex proprio judicio, five authoritate ecclefiaftica et ex aliorum opinione, leges alienae religioni ponere ^velit, perinde eft. Ecckfiafticojrum, quorum diffentiones et dSmicatione* plus fatis notae, nee magis lanum nee magis tutum j-u^citim: neq«e ali- q,uam vim poteftati civili eorum undecunque colkdla addere poffunt fu-ffragiav Quanquara hoc notatu. dignum, quod Principea eccleliafticocuBa^ fiiae fidci EPISTOLA DE TOLERANT T A et cultui non faventium, opiniones et fuffragia non fcHent aliqUo in loca habere. ' a j Sed quodtaput rei eft, et rem penitus conficit j etiamfi magiftratus de fe- ligione potior fit fententia, et vk quatn mire jubet .vere Evangelica; fi hoc mihi ex animo non perfuafum fit, mihi non erit falutaris. Nulla, quam re- clamante confcientia ingredior viam, me ad beatorum fedes unquam deducet.- Artequam averfor ditefcere pofifum, medicamentis de quibu> dubito fanus fieri J religione vero de qua dubito, cultu quern averfor, falviis fieri non pop' fam. Incredulus externos fruftra induit mores, cum fide et interna finceri- tate opus fit ut Deo placeat. Medicina utcunque fpeciofa, utcunque aliis pro- bata, fruftra propinatur, fiflatim fumptam rejiciet ftomachas ; nee invito in-^ fundi debet remedium, quod idiofyncrafiae vitio mutabitur in venenunii: Quicquid de religione in dubium voeari poteft, hoc demum certum eft, quod nulla religio, quam ego non credo effe veram, mihi vera aut utilis efife poteft. Nequicquam igitur falvandae animae praetextufubditos ad facra fuia co^t' magiftratus,, fi credant, iponte ventur pofitae&mt, cum ki ecckfiam et cultum divinum transferuntur ; quia illo m iifu millam habent cum rebus civilibus conneftionem : ubi folum agitur de ialute animarum, nee vicini nee reipublicae intereft five hie five ille ritu& iifiirpetur. Ceremoniarum in coetibus ecclefiafticis five obfervatio, fivfi^ omiffio, alioFum vitae, libertati, opibus, ne obeft quidem nee obefle poteft. Exempli gratia, infantem nuper natum aqua lavare, res fit fiia natura indif^ ferens. Detar etiam jnagiftratui lieitum efle id lege Aatuere, niodo fciat utilem effe hujtifiriodi lotionem ad morbum aliquem, cui obnoxii fiint in-^ fantes, vel fanandum vel praeeavendum, credatqne etiam tanti effe ut de ea edifto cav^atur. An igitur dicet aliquis, eodem jure licere magiftratui legft etiam jubere, ut infantes a facerdote faero fonte abluantur ad purgationen* animarum ? vel ut facris aliquibus initientur ? Quis non primo aipedu videt res hafce toto coelo difFerre ? .Supponas Judaei efl*e filium, et res ipfa perie- toquitur. Quid enim vetat, magiftratum Chriftianum Judaeos habere iub*^ ditos ? Quaai injuriam, in re fiia natura indifferenti, Judaeo non faciendarti agnofcis, fcilicet ut in cultu religiofo contra quam ipfe fentiat aliquid agerft cogatur, earn Chriftiano homini faciendam afferis ? 3. Res fiia natura indifferentes non poflunt fieri pars cultus divini autho- litate et arbitrio humano, et banc ipfam ob rationem, quia fiint indifFerentes^ Nam cum res indiiFeren-tes nulla virtute fiaa propria aptae natae funt ad Nu* men propitiandum, nulla humana poteftas vel authoritas earn itlis conciliarer valet dignitatem et exeellentiam, ut Deum poffint demereri. In. comrriuni "vita rerum fiaa natura in difFerentium liber is et lieitus eft ufiis quem Deus noa prohibuerit, adeoque in iis locum habere pote^ arbitEium vel authoritas .Hu- mana: fed eadem non eft in religione et facris libertas. In cultu divinoreis adiaphorae non alia ratione funt licitae, nifi quatenus a Deo inftitutae, eam-^ que illis certo mandato tribuerit Deus dignitatem vet fiant pars cultus^ quam approbare et ab homunculis et peccatoribus accipere dignabitur fupremi- Numinis raaj'eftas. Nee Deo indignabunde rogantr, ^is. requifivk f. iatis; erit refpondere, juflifTe magiftratum. Si jfurifdi^io civi]i« eoufque extenda- tur, quid non lieebit in religione ? quae rituum farrago^ quae foperftitionis: inventa, modo magiftratus authoritate innixat, etiam reclamante et. condem- nante confcientia, non erunt Dei cultoribus ampfediandaj cum horum pars, maxima in religiofo rerum fua natura indifferentium ufu confife.t, nee in alios peccat, quam quod Deum non habeat authorem? Aquae afperficx, panis .&&. vini ufus, res funt fua natura, et in communi ivita maxime indiiFerentes : an. jgitur haec in »fus facros introduci, et divini cultus pars fieri 'poterant fine- iaftituto diviao ? Hoc fi potuit humana jaliqua^^vel civilis pdeftas^ Si dkas> idololatria peccatum eft, ideoque ftiHfeaae vitanda, liedJe admodum infers : £ vero peecatum eft, ideoque a magifoatu puniendas, non item : non enim magiftratus eft, in omjaia,, quae apiad Deum credit peccata efte, vel legilivuS' animadvertere, vel giadium fuuna ftringere. Avaritia, non fiibvenire aliorurti- indigentiae, otium, et alia hujiifmodi muka, omnium confenfu- peccata, funt ; quis autem unquam a magiftrata caftiganda cen&it? quia aJienis ped©ffioni- bus Bullum fit detrinaientmin, quia pacem publicairt haee non per turbant, ii& ipfis in lock ubi pro peccatis agnpfcuntur legum cenfiirS-non GoercentHr : de mendacibus, imo perjuris,, ubique filent leges, nifi; certis quibufdam in cafi- bus, in quibus non reipicitur Numinis provocatio. yelcriminis tarpitud©i fed? intentata vel reipublicae vel vicino ^injuria. EtqwM fi piincipi ethiuGO v^t Mahumedano videatur reKgio Chriftiana faHa et Deo dilplicere, nonneeodem jure et eodem modo extiirpandi etiam et GhTiftiani ? Dices: Lege Mo&ica idololatniiS exterminandos. Refp. Re<3?e' q^iidenv Mofaica, quae nullo modo Chriftianos obligat. Nee tu quidem totum- illud^ quod le^e pofitura eft Judaeis, in exemplum trahes ; nee ufui' tibi efit grofei^riei tritem illam, fci hac in re futilem, kgrs Moralk, J^kiaiis- &> Ritmlis d^- ftindionem. Lex. enim quaecunque pdStiva nuUos obligat, nifi eos quibus' ponitur. ^di Ifrael, fatis coercet ad earn gentera. Mofaicae legis obliga'^ tionem. Hoc unicum fufEceret contra iHos, qui idofolatris capitaJ'efUpplici«in»' ex kge Mofaica ftatuere volunt. Libet tamen hoc argumentiMn paulo fufius*- expendere. Idololatrarum refpedtu reipublicae Jiudaicae duplex erat ratio : Primo- eorum, qui facris Mofaicis initiatl et iftius reipublicae cives fadH a cultu Der- Ifraelis defciverint. Hi tanquam proditores et rebdfes- kefae majeftatis ret :igebantur. Refpub. enim.Judaeoitum ab aliis longe diverfa, quippe quaeia Theocratia fundabatur : nee, uti poft Chriftum. natum, ulla fuit aut e^ po- tuit inter ecclefiam et rempublicam diftindio ; leges de unius invifibilifque- Numinis cultu in ea gente fuere civHis et politici regiminis pars, in quo ipfe Deus legiflator. Si rempublicam eo}ure conflitutam ufpiam oftendere potes, in ea fatebor leges ecclefiafticas in civiles tranfire, omnefque ftibditos etiam a cultu extraneo et lacris alienis magiftratuts gladio coEiberi et poie et debere. Sed fub Evangelio nulla prorfus eft refpublica Chriftiana. Multa fateor funt regna et civitates quae in fidem tranfierunt Chriftianam, retenta et confervata veteris reipublicae et regiminis forma, de qua Chriftus nihil fua lege ftatuit. Qua fide, quibus moribus vita aeterna fingulis obtinenda fit, docuit : verun- tamen nullam rempublicam. inftituit, novam civitatis formam et fuo- populo- peculiarem nuHam introduxit, nuUoe magiftratus gladio armavit, quo ho- mines ad fidem vel cultum eum, quem fiiis propofiiit, cogerentur,- vel ab. alieaae religionis inftitutis arcerentur. 1 Secunda E P I S T O L A X):E T O L E R A N T I A Secuntk) extranei et a republica Ifraelis alieni non vi cogebantur ad ritus Mofaicos traniire -, veruin eo ipfo paragrapho quo mors Ifraelkis idololatris intentatur, Ex^d. xxii. 20, 21. nequis peregfinum vexet vel opprimat lege caiitum eft. Exfcindendae penitus fateor erant feptem gentes quae terram IfraeKtis promiflam poffidebant, quod faftum non quod idololatrae fuerint, hoc enjm fi eflet, cnr Moabitis et aliis nationibus etiam idololatris parceij- dum? fed cum Deus populi Hebraei peculiari modo rex erat, venerationem akexius Numims, qucni erat proprie crimen laefae majeftatis, fuo illo in reg- no, terra aempe Cananraea, pati non poterat : hujufmodi aperta defedlio cum Jehovae imperio iftis in terris plane politico, nullo modo potuit confiftere. Eaqjellenda erat igifiur h. limitibus regni omnis idololatria, qua rex alius, alius iciUoet Deias contra jiK imperii agaofcebatur. Expellendi etiam in- CGiiae,. ut vacua et iategra Ifraelitis daretur poflefiio ; qu4 plane ratione po- puli Emmim et Horim exterminati funt ab Efavi et Lotbi pcffteris, eorum territoriaeodem plane jure a Deoconcefla invadentifeus : quod facile patebit caput fecundum Derateronomii legenti. Expulfa igitur licet e finibus terrae Cananaeae omnis idololatria, non tamen in omnes idololatras animadverfum. Rahabae toti familiae, Gibeonitarum univerfo populo pepercit Jofuah ex pa&j. Captivi idololatrae paffim inter Hebraeos. Regiones etiam ultra li- mites terrae promiflae a !Davide et Salomone ad Eupbraten ufque fubjugatae et in provincias reds&iss. Ex his tot mancipiis, tot popdlis poteftatt Hebraeae fubje^is, nemo unquam, quod legimus, ob idololatriam, cajus certe om.nes rei erant, eaftigatus : nemovi etpoenis ad religionem Mofaicam et veid Dei cukum eoaiSbus. Si quis profelyta civitate donari cupierat, civi- tatis licaelitkae etiam leges, hoc eft religionem fimul amplexus eft: fed id fponte faa pronus, non imperantis vi coaftus, tanquam privilegium cupidus amirivit, non invitus in obfequii teftimonium accf pit. Simul atque civis fiidlus eft legibus rei'publicae obnoxius erat, quibus intra pomaeriaet limites terrae Cananaeae prohibebatur idololatria. De ex-teris regionibus populifque ultra eos terminos fitis nihil ea lege ftatu-tam, Haftenus de cultu externo : fequitur ut de.fide agamus. : E*cclefiarum dogmata alia pradtica, alia f/eeulatava : et quamvis utraque in veritatis cognitione confiftunt, haec tamen opinione et inteHedru termi- nanttrr, iila aliquo mcxio ad voluntatem et mores ipedtant. Speculativa igi- tur dogmata, et, uti vocantur, articulos fidei, quod attinet, qui nihil aliud -exigunt niftfolum ut credaptur, illos lex civilis nullo modo in ecclefiam ali- -quam pcrteft introducere : Quorfum enim attinet id lege fancire, quod qui vsRet maxime,. non poteft agere ? Ut hoc vel illud verum effe credamus in noftca voluntate iitum non eft. Sed de hoc fatis jam didtum. Verum profi- teatur fe credere, Nimirum ut pro Mute animae fuae Deo et'hc«ninibus mentiatur. Bella fane religio. Si magiftratus ita fervari homines velit, quae fit via falutis videtur parum intelligere j fi id non agit ut ferventur, quare de articulis religionis tarn folicitus, ut lege jubeat ? Deinde, opiniones quafvis fpeculativas quo minus in ecclefia qnavis te- neantur doceanturve prohibere non debet magiftratus ; quia hae ad civilia fubditorum Jura nequaquam attinent. Si quis pontificius credat id corpus D 2 Chrifti EPISTOL-A DE TOLERANTIA Chrlfti revera effe, ^uod alius panem vocaret, nuUam injuriam facit vrcina. Si Judaeus non credat novum teftamentum efle verbum Dei, nulla mutat jura civilia : Si ethnicus de utroque dubitat teftamento, non igitur puniendus tanquam improbus civis. Haec fi quis credat, five non, farta ted:a efle poC- funt magiftratus,J)oteftas et civium bona. Falfas has efle et abfurdas opi- niones libenter concedo J caeterum de opinionum veritate non cavent leges^^ fed de bonorum cujufque et reipublicae tutela et incolumitate. Nee hoe pjane dolendum eft. Bene profedo cum veritate adum eflet, fi fibi aliquando permifieretur. Parum opis illi . attulit vel afFeret unquam potentiorum do- minatus, quibyis nee cognita Temper nee Temper grata Veritas : vi opus non habet, ut ad hominum mentes aditum inveniat ; nee legum voce docetur. Mutuatitiis et extraneis auxiliis regnant errores. Veritas fi fiia luce fibi non arripiat intelledtum, alieno Tobore non poteit. Sed de his ha(3:enus. Ad opiniones pradticas jam pergendum. ., Morum feftitudoj in qua con^ftit non minima religionis et fincerae pieta- tis pars, etiam ad vitam civilem Ipeftat, et in ea verfatur animarum fimul et reipublicae falus ; ideoque utriufque fiint fori, tam externi quam interni, adjionejs morales, et utrique fubjiciuntur imperio, tam moderatoris civilis quam domeftici, fcilicet m^giftratus et confcientiae. Hie igitur metuendum eft, ne alter alteriiis jus violet, et inter pacis et animae cuftodem lis oriatur; Sed fi ea, quae fupra de utriufque limitibus didla funt, redle perpendantUF, rem hanc totamfagile; expedient. Qui vis mortalium animani habet immortalem, aeternae beatttudinis aut miferiae capacem, cujus falus cum ex eo pendeat, quod homo in hac vit^ egerit ea quae agenda, et ea crediderit quae credenda, ad Numinis concilia- tionem funt necef&ria, et a Deo praefcripta ; inde i. Sequitur, quod ad haec obfervanda ante omnia obligatur homo, et in his praecipuc inveftigandis per- agendifque omnem fuam curam ftudium et diligentiam ponere debet j quan- dpquidem nihil h^bet haec mortalis conditio quo cum ilia aeterna uUo moda fit aequiparanda, 2. Sequitur, quod cum homo aliorum hominum jus fuo' erroneo cultu nequaquam violet, cum alteri injuriam non. faciat quod cumeo redte de rebus- divinis aon fentiat, nee illius perditio aiiorum rebus prolperis> fraudi fit j ad fingulp§ f9slum falutis fuae curam' pertinere. Hoc autem non" itadidtum velirn, ac fi omnia charitatis monita, et ftudium errores redar- guentium, quae niaxima funt, Cjjriftiani oficia, excludere vdlem. Horta- tionumet argumentorum quantum yeht cuivis licet alterius faluti impenderej. fed vis omnis et coadio abefle .debet, nihil illie faciendum pre imperio. ^ Nemo alterius monitisveltauthoritgit-i hac in re ultra quam ipfi,vifum fuerit abtemperare tenetuf .: fuum cuique de fua falute fupsemum et ultimum judi- cium eft i quia ipfius folura res. agitur, aliena inde nihil detrimenti capere- poteft. ^ . i , '- Praeter animam immortakm vita infupec homint eft in lioc faeculo, labilis- quidem et incertae durationis, ad quam fuftentandam terrenis commodis, opus eft, labore et induftria conquirendis, aut jam conquifitis. -Quae enim ad bene beateque vivendum necefl"aria funt, non fponte nafcuntur. Hinc homini de his rebus altera cura. Cum yew ea fit hominum improbitas, ut jlerigue. epistola.de tolerantia plerique mallent alieno labore partis frui, quam fuo quaerere y ideo homini parta, ut opes et facultates ; vel ea, quibus parantur, ut corporis libertatem ^t robur, tuendi gratia, ineunda eft cum aliis focietas, ut mutuo auxilio et, jundis viribus harum rerum ad vitam utilium fua cuiq; privata et fecura fit pofleffio, relida interim unicuique falutis fuae aeternae cara ; cum illius ac- quifitio nee alterius juvari poterit induftria/ nee amiflio alterius cedere ia damnum, nee fpes ulla vi abripi. Cum vero homines in civitatem cocuntes, pada ad rerum hujus vitae defenfionem mutua ope, poflint nihilominus rebus fuis everti, vel civium raping et fraude j vel exterorum hoftili impetu ; huic malo, armis, opibus, et multitudine civium ; illi, legrbus quaefitum eft reme- dium; quarum omnium rerum cura et poteftas a fbcietate magiftratibus de- mandata eft. Hanc originem habuit; ad hos ufas conftituebatur ; et his cancellis circumfcribitur legiflativa quae fuprema eft feipub. cujufvis poteftas: ut fcilicet profpiciat fingulorum privatis pofleflionibus, adeoque univerfb, po- pulo ejufque publicis commodis^ ut pace opibufque floreat ac augeatur : ict contra aliorum invafionem quantum fieri poffit fiio robore tutus fit. His pofitis, intelledu facile eft quibus regitur finibus magiftratus in legibus ferendis praerogativa, bono fcilicet publico terreftri five m'undano, quod idem unicum ineundae focietatis argumentum, unicufque conftitutae reipub. finis, quaeque ex altera parte privatis reftat iii rebus ad futuram vitam ipedlanti- bus libertas ; nempe ut quod credit placere I>eo, ex cujus beneplacito pen- det hominum falus, id quifque agat. Primum enim debetur Deo obfequium, deinde legibus. Sed dices : Quid fi edifto jufferit magiftratus quod pfivatae confcientiae videatur illicitum ? Refp. Si bona fide adminiftretur i-efpub. et ad bonum commune civium revera dirigantur magiftratus confiiia, lioc raro eventurum : quod fi forte eveniat, dico abftinendum pvivato ab adtione quae ipfi didtante confcientia eft illicita ; fed poena quae ferenti non eft illicita iubeunda. Privatum enim cujufque judicium legis in bonum publicum, et de febus politicis latae', non tollit obligationem, nee meretur tolerantiam. Quod fi lex fit de rebus extra magiftratus provinciam pofitis, fcilicet ut populus, ejufve pars aliqua, ad alienam religioncm ampledtendam, et sd alios; ritus tranfire cogatur; ea lege non tenentur aliter fentientes : .quandoquidem ad rerum hujus vitae fblummodo confervandam private cuique poffeifionem,. nee alium in finem, inita eft focietas politica ; animae fuae et rerum coeleftium cura, quae ad civitatem non pertinet nee ei fubjici potuit, prLvato cuique re- fervata atque retenta. Vitae inde et rerum ad hanc vitam fpeftantium tutela;. civitatis eft negotium,. et earum poffeiforibus fuis confervatia officium ma- giftratixs. Non pofi"unt igitur res hae mundanae ad magiftratus libitum his^ auferri, illis tradi : nee earum, ne quidem lege, mutari inter concives privata;. pofifeflid propter caufam, quae ad concives. nuHo modb. pertinet, nempe reli— gionem, quae five vera five falfa, nuUam facit reliquis civibus in rebus mun- danis, quae fdlae reipiiblicae fubjiciuntur, injuriam- Sed Dices. Quid fi magiftratus credat hoc in bonum publicum: fieri? Refp. Quemadmodum privatum ccujufqire judicium, G falfum fit, ilium a legum obligatione nequaquam eximit, fie privatum, ut ita dicam-, magiftrar- 40s judicium novum illi in fubditos Jeg^umferendarumjus noa acquirit, quo^ lPISTOiLA:DE TOLERANTIA ipfa reipuljlicae coixftUuiietne iUi non -canceffum fuit, nee coneedi quidem pfltuit: Muko;iniaus, ii Ldagat magifftratu^ ut fuos affeclas, fuae fedae ad- didtos, aliorum fpoliis augeat et omet. Quaeris : Quid fi magiitratus id quod jubet in fua poteftate effe.fitUJJi et ad rempub. utile credat, fu,b.diti vero contrarium credant. Quis^rit inter eos judex ? ReJ|). Solus D^ug : quia inter legiflatorem et populum nuUus in terris eft judex. Deus iuquam hoc incafu fblus eft arbiter, qjji in ultimo jvdicio pro cujufque meritia, prout bono publico pacique et .pietati fincere £t fccundum jus faXque confbJuit, re-- pendet. Dices: quid interim iiet ? Relp. Prima animae cura habenda,.ei paci quam maxime ftudendum s quanquam paaici fint qui ubi folitudinenx fajflam vident pacem credent, Eorum qua^ inter homines difceptantur du- plex eft ratio, una jure, alia vi agentium; quorum ea eft natura, ut ubi al- terum definit, alterum ineipiat. Qijpufque jura magiftratus apud iingulas gqntes extendantur, non meumeft inquirers : h,oc folum fcio quid fieri folet, ubi ambigitur abfente judice. Dices : Igitur magiftratus quod e re fiia fore crediderit viribus potior efficiet. ReJ^). R.em dicis ; caeterum hie de reds faciendorum norma, non de dubiorum fucceflii quaeritur. ' Sed ut ad magis pattieularia defcendamus : Dico primo ; aulla dogmata, humanae fdcietati vel bonis moribiis ad focietatem civJJem confervandam ne- ceflariis adverfa et contraria, i magiftratu fuat toleranda. Sed Jiorum rara funt in quavis eeclefia exempU : qxiae enim focietatis fundamenta manifefto fubruunt, adeoque univerfi humani generis judicio damnata funt, nulla £b£ta €0 vefaniae pirogredi folet, ut ea pro re%ionis dogmatibus docenda judieet, quibus fuae ipforum tea, quies,. fama in, tuto effe non poffuct. , , 2 . Teftius faue., fed. et periguloilus reipuh. malum dk eorum, qui iihi fiia©- que fed:ae hominibus p£culiare aliquod praerogativum contra jus clvilfi arro- gant,- verborum invoJucris ad fucum faciendum aptis occultum. Nuiquatn fere invenies, qui crude et aperte docent, nullam fidem efie fervandaoKj principem a quavis feda e folio fuo deturbari pofle ; dominium omnium re- rum ad fe iblos pertinere. Haec enim ita nude et aperte propofita excitarent ftatim magiftratus animos, et reipub. oculos curamque ad malum hoc in finu fuo latens ne ultra ferperet,illico converterent,. Jnveniuntur tamen quialiis verbis idem dicunL . . Quid eninj aliud fibi volunf, qui docent, aulkm fidem fervandam eflecumhaereticis? Illud fcilicet volunt, fibi conceflum efifi fidei fallendae privilegium, quandoquidem omnes ab ipforum conimunione alieni, haeretici pronuntiantur, vel data occafione poflunt pronuntiari. R.^ea.excom- municatos regnQ,excid«re, quo tondit, nifi ut reges jegno fuo exuendi potdia- tem fibi arrogarent, cum excpmniunicationis jus fuae foli hierarchiae veadi- cent ? Dominium fiandari in gratia, tribuet tandem omnium rerumpolTeflionem hujusfententiae propugnatoribus, quiufque adeo fibi non deeruat,.ut credere vel profited nolint fe yere pios .effe et fideles. Hi, igitur et hujufmodi, qui fidelibus, religiofis, orthodoxis, id eft fibi, aliquod prae reliquis mortalibus privilegium vel poteftatem in rebus civilibus tribuunt j quive poteftatem aU- quam in homines a communione fua ecclefiaflicl alieaos, vel quocunque , modo feparatos, praetextu religionis fibi vendicant, ut a magiftratu toleren- ^ tur jus nullum habere pofTunt : uti nee ii, qui alios etiam a fe de religions diffontientes E PIS TOLA DE TOLERANTTA dilfentientes tolerandos efle decere nolunt. Quid enim aliud docent hi et hujufmodi oranes, quam fe quacunq; dati oecafione reipub, jura et civium libertatem ae bona iiavaforosj idq; fofum a magiiftrata petunt, ut fibi detur venia et Bbertas, ufq; dum ad id audendum ipfis copiarvan et virium fatis fit ? 3. Ea ecclefia at a magiftratu toferetur Jus habere non poteft, in quam quieunque initia«tuT ipfo fadto m aiterius principis clienftelam et obiediehtianx »ra«&unt. Hoc enitn pai(So*extraneae jurifdiiSioni, fuis in fiuibus urbibufqjie, Joeum praeberet magift'ratus j ^t ex fui« civibus contra fuam rempub. rtiilites cQn&ribf pateretur. Nee htrie raialo remedtum aKquod afFert futilis ilk et fallaijf inter aulam et ecclefiam' diiHuftio ; cum utraque abfohito cjufdem ha- minis ithparioaeque ftitijicitur, qm quicquid Ifljet, poteflr, vel quatenus fpi- rituale vel iii' eirdine ad ^irituaiia, fiiadere, imo iirfuhgere fuae ecclefiae ho- minibus fub poefia ignis aeternil Fruftra aliquis fe religiose folum Mahu- medanom effe, caetera magiftratus Chriffiani fidelem- fu-bditum dicet, fi fa- teatur fe coeeam obedientiam Mufti Conftanttrtopolitano debere, qui et ipfe Imperatori Ottbmano obffeqttcntiflimu&, ad' ilfius voluntatem confifta promit reRgioQis fuae oraculia. Qtjanquam aliquantd apertius reipub. Chriftianae renunciaret' ille inter ChrifEanos Turea, H- eundera agnofceret elfe ecclefiae fiiae qui et imperii' caput. 4. UltiTOo, qui- Numen cife negant nullb modo tolerandi funt. Athei enim nee fidtrsj nee patStum, nee jia^urandum aliqtiod ' ftabile et (andtupi eflef pot-eft, quae funt fbeietatis humanaevincnla ; adeo ut Deo vel ipia- opinione fiibliatt) haec omnia corruant. Praeterea, nullum fibr religionis nomine ven- diearepoifeft toFeraiitiae privifegium, qui omnem flinditus tollrt per atheif- mum refigionem. ReHquas opiniones prafticas quod attinet, etiamfi noii ©mni errore vacuas, fi iis nulla dbminatio nee impunitas civiHs quaeratur ec- elefiae, in quibus docentur, cur tolerari non d^beant nulla daripoteft ratio. Reftat irt pauca de coetibus dicam, qui maximam dtrdlrinae de toleranti^ afferre credantur diificul'tatem, cum feditionum fomenta et faftionum conci- liabula vulgo audtantj ct fbrte aHquasdb flierunt ; fed non fuo peculiar! ali- quo genio, fed' oppreffae vel male flabilitae libertiatis infortunio. Ceffarent ilico hae criminationes, fi conceflae quibus debetur tolerantiae ea efTet ley, ut omneseeclefiae teiierentur docereet pro libertatis fuae flmdamenta ponere, fcilicet quod alii etiam a fe in facris diflentientes efFent tol'erandii et quod nemo vd lege vel vi ulH' in rebus religionis deberet coercerij quounofta- bilito, omnis querelkrmn tumultuumque confcientiae nomine adlmeretur praetextus. His autem fublatis motuum vei' irarum catrfis, nihil reflat quod in his quam in aliis coetibus non effet magis pacificum, et a rebus politicis turhandis alienum. Verum percurramus accufationum capita. Dices : Coetus et hominum concurfus reipub. funt periculoli,. et paci mi- nantur. Refp. Hoc fi ita fit, quare in fbro quotidie coitio, quai'e in judiciis conciones, quare in collegirs conventus, et in urbibus frequentia ? Dices : Hi funt coetus civil es, illi vero de quibus agitur ecclefiaftici. Refp.. Quail; vero illi coetus, qui a rebus civilibus traftandis inter ceteros longiflime ab- faat, rebijs civilibus tiirbandis maxime effeEt accommodi... Dices :. Coetua eiviks EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA civiles funt homlnum de rebus religionis diverfa fentientium. Ecclefiaftici vero hominum qui in eadem funt apinione. Refp. Quafi vero de rebus fa- cris et falute animae eadem fentire effet contra rempub. confpirare : nee mi- nus, imo vero acrius confentiunt, quo minor publice coeundi libertas. Dices: In coetus civiles cuivis liber ingrefliis, in religioforum conciliabulis commo-: diortedtis et clandeftinis confiliis locus. R^fp. Negoomnes coetus civiles, ut funt collegia, &c. omnibus patere : fi vero clandeftinae funt quorundam ad rem facram coitiones, quinam quaefo hac in re criminandi, quicupiunt, an qui prohibent publicos coetus ? Dices : Saerorum communionem maxime hominum inter fe devincire animos, ideoque maxime metuendam. Refp.. Si ita fe res habet, quare raagiftratus a ful fibi non metuit ecclefia, eofque coetus tanquam fibi minitantes non prohibet ? Dices : Quia ipfe illorum pars eft et caput. Refp. Quafi vero et ipfius reipub. non fit pars, totiufque populi caput. Dicamus igitur quod res eft j metuit ab aliis ecclefiis, a fua vero non metuit, quia his favet et benignus eft, aliis feverus et immitis : His liberorum conditio eft, quibus indulgetur ufque ad lafciviam ; illis fervorum, quibus ergaftulum, career, capitis imminutio, bonorum fedtio, frequentiores funt vitae inculpatae mercedes : hi foventur, illi quavis de caufa vapulant. Mutentur vices, vel aequo cum reliquis civibus in rebus civilibus utantur jure, fenties ilico non amplius a coetibus religiofis metuendum efle : fi quid enim fadtiofe meditentur homines, id non congregatis fuadet religio, fed oppreflis miferia.. Jufta et temperata imperia ubique quieta, ubique tuta funt ; in- juftis et tyrannicis gravati femper reludlabuntur. Scio feditiones faepe fieri, eafque plerumque religionis nomine: verum et religionis caufa fubditi ple- rumque male muldtantur, et iniqui forte vivunt ; fed crede mihi, non funt ii quarundam ecclefiarum vel religiofarum focietatum peculiares, fed communes ubique hominum mores, fub iniquo onere gementium, et jiigum quod gra- vius cervicibus fuis infidet fuccutientium. Quid credis, fi neglefta religione. et fafta a corporis habitu difcriminatione, iis qui nigro funt capillo aut caefiis oculis iniqua effet inter reliquos cives conditio, ut non libera illis effet emptio et venditio, artis exercitium prohibitum, liberorum educatio et tutela paren- tibus adempta, fora aut claufa, aut tribunalia iniqua, quid, nonne exiflimas, ab hisj qui folum crinium vel oculorum colore conjunguntur adjefta perfe- cutione, aeque metuendum effe magiftratui, quam ab aliis inter quos focieta- tem conciliaverit religio ? Alios in focietatem redigit ad negotia fumptus lu- criq; communitas, alios ad hilaritatem otium ; hos conjungit urbs eadem, teftorumque vicinitas ad conviftum, illos religio ad cultum divinum : fed una eft quae populum ad feditionem congregat, opprefTio. Dices. Quid igi- tur vis, ad facra celebranda coetus fieri invito magiftratu ? Refp. Quid in- vito ? res enim eft licita et neceffaria. Invito dicis magiftratu : hoc eft, quod queror, hoc mali fons, et fundi noftri calamitas. Cur magis difplicet in templo quam in theatro aut circo, hominum concurfus ? Non vitiofior hie nee turbulentior multitudo. Nempe hue tandem tota res redit, quod male habiti, ideo minus ferendi. ToUe juris iniquam diftindionem, mutatis legi- bus tolle fupplicii poenam, et omnia tuta, omnia fecura erunt ; tantoque magis a magiftratus religione alieni reipub. paci ftudendum exiftimabunt, quantum EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA quantum in ea melicfr eorum fit conditio quam alibi plerumque inveniatur : KJmnefque particulares et inter fe diifidentes ecclefiae, tanquam publicae qui- ictis cuftodes, acrius in aliarum mores invicem invigilabunt, nequid novarum rerum moliantur, nequid in regiminis forma mutetur, cum meliora iperare non poffint, quam quae jam poffident, fcilicet fub jufto et moderato im- perio aequam cum reliquis civibus fortem. Quod fi maximum habetur regi- minis civilis columen ea ecclefia, quae cum principe de religione confentit, idque earn folam ob caufam, uti jam probavi, quod magiftratum habet propi- tiumlegefque faventes; quantomagis audio fatellitio fecurior erit refpub. cum ■omnes boni cives ex quacunq; demum ecclefia, eadem principis benignitate, eademque legum aequitate fruantur, nuUi habita ob religionem diftindrione ; foli{que facinorofis et contra pacem civilem peccantibus metuenda, fit legum feveritas ? • Ut finem aliquando faciamus, conceffa aliis civibus jura petimus. Licetne more Romano Deiimxolere ? Liceat et Genevenfi. Permiffumne eft Latine loqui in foro ? permittatur etiam quibus libet in tcmplo. Fas eft domi fuae, genua fledlere, ftare, federe, gefticulationibus his vel illisuti, veftibus albis vel uigris, brevibus vel talaribus indui ? in ecclefia nefas ne fit panem comedere, vinum bibere, aqua fe abluerej reliquaque quae in communi vita lege libera funt, in facro cultu libera cuique ecclefiae permaneant. NuUius ob haec labe- fa£tetur vita, aut corpus j nullius domusaut res familiaris evertatur. Prefbyte- rorum apud te ecclefia permittitur difciplinae ; cur non itidem quibus placet etiam et epifcoporum ? Ecclefiaftica poteftas, five unius five plurium manibus adminiftretur, ubique eadem eft, nee in res civiles jus, necvimcogendi habetul- lanii : nee divitiae aut reditus annui ad regimen ecclefiafticum pertinent. Li- citos efiTe coetus ecclefiafticos ct conciones ufu publico comprobatur : hos unius ecclefiae vel fedlae civibus conceditis, quare non omnibus ? Si quid in coetu religiofo contra pacem publicam agitatum, reprimendum eft eodem Jiec diverfo modo quam fi in nundinis acciderit. Siquid in concione ecclefi- aftica feditiosc vel ditftum vel fadlum, eodem modo puniendum ac fi in foro delidlum eflTet. Haec non debent efle nee faftioforum nee flagitioforum per- fugia : nee e contra concurfus hominum in templo quam in curia magis illi- citus, nee in his quam in illis civibus m.agis culpandusj quifque fuo folum ■crimine, non aliorum vitio, in odium vel fufpicionem vocandus. Seditiofi, homicidae, ficarii, latrones, rapaces^ adulteri, injufti, conviciatores, etc. ex quacunque demum ecclefia, five aulica five non, caftigentur reprimanturque^ Quorum vero dodlrina pacifica, quorum mores cafti et inculpati, eodem fint cum reliquis civibus loco. Atque fi aliis coetus, folennes conventus, feftorum ■dierum celebrationes, conciones, et facra publica permittantur : haec omnia Remonftranti, Antiremonftranti, Lutherano, Anabaptiftae, Sociniano pari jure permittenda. Imo fi, quod verum eft, et quod hominem erga homines de- cet, aperte loqui liceat, ne Ethnicus quidem, vel Mahumedanus, vel Judaeus 4-eligionis caufi a repub. arcendiisi nil fimile jubet Evangelium; id non de- fiderat ecclefia, quae i Cor. v. 12, 13. extraneos non judicat, nonpofcit ref- |)ub. quae homines qua homines, modo probos, pacificos, induftrios, recipit et ^mpleiStitur. An Ethnicum apud te mercaturam exercere permittes, Deum E yero EPISTOLA DE TOLERANTIA vero precari vel colere prohibebis ? Judaels habitat'o et tedta privata conce* duntur, fynagoga curne^atur ? an eorum doftrina falfior, cultus turpvor, rel Concordia periculofior, in coetu publico quam in privatis aedibus ? Si haee Judaeis et Ethnicis concedenda, pejorne erit in republica Chriftiana Chrifti- anorum conditio ? Dices : Imo vero, quia ad faftiones, tumultus, et bdla civilia magis proclives. Refp, Anne religionis Chriftianae hoc vitium ? Si ita, peffima certe omnium eft religio Chriftiana, et digna quam nee tu^ pro-' fitearis, nee refpnb. omnino'toleret. Nam fi hie fit genius, haec natura ipfius religionis Chriftianae, ut turbulenta fit et paci civili iniiniea ; ipfa ilia quam fovet magiftratus eeclefia aliquando non erit innocens. Sed abfit ut hoc dit catuT de religione, avaritiae, ambitioni, difiidiis, jurgiis, terrenifque copidita- tibus contrarii, et omnium quae unquam fuerunt maxime modefta et paeifica. Alia igitur malorum quae religioni imputantur quaerenda caufaj quaeii refte rem reputemus, in ea de qui nunc agitur quaeftione tota confiftere ap- parebit. Non opinionum diverfitas, quae vitari non poteft, fed negata diverfa. opinantibus tolerantia, quae concedi poterat, pleraque quae in orbe Chri- ftiano nata ftint de religione jurgia et bella produxit : dum primores" ecclefiae avaritia et dominandi libidine atfli, magiftratum faepe ambitione impoten-r tern, et populum fiiperftitione femper vanum, adverfus heterpdoxos omni- modo excitarent et acuerent, et contra leges Evangelii, contra charitatis mo- nita, fehifinaticos haereticofque fpoliandos exterminandofque praedicarent; et Xiuas res diverfifiimas mifeerent, ecclefiam et rempub. Quod fi, uti fit, ho-^ mines rebus fiais honefto labore partis fe exui haud patienter ferunt, et contra jushumanum divinumque alienae violentiae et rapinae praedam fieri ; praefer* tim cum alias omnino ineulpati fint, et ea res agitur quae ad jus civile minime- pertirjet, fed ad fuam cujufque confcientiam et animae falutem, cujus ratio foli Deo reddenda eft : quidaliud pene «xpe diftindtionum nomina et notas introdueit, et fponte fua feparationem efficit. 2.' Quando aliquis fe feparat ab eeclefiae communione, quia in ea piiblica non fit profeflio quorundam dogmatum quae difertis verbis non exhibet S/ Seriptura. Horum utrique Haeretici funt : quia in fundamentalibus errant, et pru* dentes fcientefque obftinate errant. Cum enim pro unico fundamento fidei ^ofuerint S. Scripturam, aliudnihilominus ponunt fundamentum, propafi* tiones fcilicet quae in S. Seriptura nufquam reperiuntur ; et quia alii adfci* E 2 titias EPISTOLA D^ TOLERANTIA tltias hafce ipforum opiniones S. ScElpturae aflutas tanquam neceffarias et. fundamentales agnofcere et iis inniti nolunt, eas a fe abigendo, vel le ab us fubtrahendo, feceffionem faciunt. Nee attinet dicere, fuas confeffiones et articulos fidei S. Scripturae et analegiae fidei efle confonos : fi enim S. Sefif>-. turae verbis concipiantur, nulla poteft efle queftio : quia omnium confenfu fundamentalia ea fiMit, et ejafmodi omnia, quia theopoeufta. Quod fi di- cas, articulos illos tuos, quorum profeflionem exigis, efl"e S. Scripturae po- rifmata j refte quidem fapis, fi ipfe ea credas et profitearis quae tibi yiden- tur cum regula fidei, fcilicet S. Scriptura, confentire : pefllme vero; fi ea velis aliis obtrudere, quibus non videntup indubia S. Scripturae dogmata : et haereticus es, fi ob haec quae nee fundamentalia fiiht, nee efiTe poflunt, fepa- rationem introducas.. Non enim credo aliquem eo infaniae provedlum efle, ut audeat fiia confeftaria^ fuaque S. Scripturae interpretamenta, pro theor. pneuftis venditare,. et articulos fidei ad modulum mentemque fiiam con- cinnatos authoritati S. Scripturae aequare. Scip aliquas efle propofitioae& tarn evidenter S. Scripturae confonas, ut nemo dubitare pofllt eas inde fe- qui : de his igitur- nullum iieri potefl: diflidium. Quod, autenv tibi videtur legitima deduiCtipne e S. Scriptura fequi, id tanquam aeceflarium fidei arti- culum alteri obtrudere non debes, quia tu ipfe regulae fidei confonum cre- dis ; nifi tu ipfe aequum judicas, ut tibi pari jure aliorum ©"btrudantur opi- niones, et tu cogaris admittere et profitexi di^erlk et inter fe pugnantia, Lutheranorum, Calvinlftarum,. Remonfl:rantium, Anabaptifl:arum, aliarum- que fedtarum dogmata,, quae tanquam neceflaria et genuina S. Scripturae confedtaria afl!eclis fuis ingerere, et depredicare foknt Synibolorumi Syfl:e- matum et Confeflionum artifices. Non pofliim non mirari inaufpicatam, illorum arrogantiam, qui ea, quae ad falutem funt neceflaria, putant fe cla- rius et dilucidius pofle tradere, quam Spiritus Sandlus, infinitailla et.aeterna, ' faprentia, tradere poflit. Hadtenus de Haerefi, quae vox fecuadum, communem ufum folis dog- raatibus tribuitur : jam de Schifmate ^ddendum, qqod cognatum haerefi vi- tium eft : utraque enim vox mihi videtur fignificare feparationem in com- munique ecclefiaftica temere et de rebus non neceflariis fadlam. Sed cum ufus, quem penes arbitrium et jus et norma loquendi, obtinuerit, ut haere- fis erroribus in fide, fchifma in cultu vel difciplina tribueretur, de iis fub* ea. diftihdtione hie agendum eft. ^ Schifma igitur ob rationes fupra memojatas nihil aliud ef^ quam fepara- tio in ecclefiae communioae fadla oh; aliquod in caltu divino vel difciplina.- ecclefiaftica non oeceflarium. Nihii in cultu, divino vel difciplina ecclefia- ftica ad communionem Chriftiano eflfe poteft neceflarium, nifi ^od difertis. verbis juflerit legiflator Chriftus, vel inftindu Spiritu Sandli Apoftoli. Verbo dieam ; Qui non. negat aliquid quod difextjs vecbis eaunciant elo- quiadivina, nee feparationem facit ob aliquod quod in facra textu exprefle non continetur, haereticus vel fchifmaticus efl!e non poteft, quantumvis male audiat apud quafvis Chriftiani noajinis fedlas, & ab iis, vel aliquibus vel omnibus, tanquam vera religione Chriftiana deftitutus pronuncietur. Haec oraatius et fufius deduci potuiffenta, fed. tibi adeo perfpicaci iadicaflfe fufficiat. A LETTER CONCEIINING TOL.ERATION TO THE READER The enfuing Letter concerning 'Toleration, firft printed in Latin this very year* in Holland, has already been trlnflated both into Dutch and French. So ge- neral and {peedy an approbation may therefore belpeak its favourable recep- tion in England. I think indeed there is no nation under heaven, in vi^hich fo much has already been faid upon that fubjedt, as ours. But yet certainly there is no people that ftand in more need of having fomething further both faid and done amongft them, in this point, than we do. Our government has not only been partial in matters of religion ; but thofe alio who have fuffered under that partiality, and have therefore en- deavoured by their writings to vindicate their own rights and liberties have for the moft part done, it upon narrow principles, fuitedonly to theintereft& of their own fecSs. This narrownefs of fpirit on all fides has undoubtedly been the principal occafion of our miferies and confufions. But whatever have been ut ye Jball not be fo, Luke xxii. The bufinefs of true religion is quite another thing. It is not inftituted in order to the ereding an external pomp, nor to the obtaining of ecclefiaftical dominion, nor to the exercifing of compuliive Torce -, but to the regulating of mens lives according to the rules of virtue and piety. Whofoever will lift himfelf under the banner of >■ Chrift, muft, in the firft place and above all things, make war upon his own lufts and vices. It is in vain for any man to ufurp the name of Chriftian, without holineft of life, purity of manners, and benignity and meeknefs of fpirit. Let every one that nameth the name of Chrijl, depart from iniquity. Thou, nvhen thou art converted, Jirengthen thy brethren, faid our Lord to Peter, Luke XXII. It would indeed be very hard for one that appears carelefs about his- own falvation, to perfuade me that he were extremely concerned for mine. For it is impoffible that thofe fhould fincerely and heartily apply themfelves to make other people Chriftians, who have not really embraced the Chriftian religion in their own hearts. If the Gofpel and the Apoftles may be credited, no man can be a Chriftian without charity, and without that faith which works, not by force* but by love. Now I appeal to the con- fciences of thofe that perfecute, torment, deftroy, and kill other men upon pretence of religion, whether they do it out of friendfliip and kindnefs to- wards them, or no : and I fhall then indeed, and not till then, believe they do fo, when I ihall fee thofe fiery zealots corredling, in the fame manner, their friendsand familiar acquaintance, for the manifeft fins they commit againft the precepts of the Gofpel ; when I ftiall fee them profecute with fire and fword the members of their own communion that are tainted with enormous vices, and without amendment are in danger of eternal perdition ; and when I fhall fee them thus exprefs their love and defire of the falvation of their foulsj^ by the inilidtion of torments, and exercife of all manner of F cruelties. A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION cruelties. For if it be out of a principle of charity, as they pretend, and love to mens fouls, that tlxey deprive them of their eftates, maim them with corporal punifhments, ftarve and torment them in npifome pofons,. and in the end eyen take away, their live^j I fay, if alt this bedoneinttrly to make men Chriftians, and procure their falvation, why then do they fufFer 'whore- dom, fraud, malice, andfuch like enormities, which, according to the Apuffle, JUm. I. manifeftly relifli^f b^theniOi corruptioKti, to predominate fo much and aboufid amongft their fiocks and people ? Thefe, andfiich. like things, are certainly more contrary to the glory ctf" God, to the purity of the chufdi, and to the falvation of foulSj than any cooBfcientioaj diffetit ffom ecclefiafti- cal decifion, or feparation from public worftiip, whilfl accompanied with innocency of life. Why then does this burning zeal for God, for thfe church, and for the falvation of fouls ; burning, I fay, literaJly, with fire and faggot ; pafs by thofe moral vices and wickcdnefles, without any chaf- tifement, which are acknowledged by all men to be diametrically oppofitte to the profefEon of Chriftianity ; and bend all its nerves either to the intro- ducing of ceremonies, or to the eftabHfhment of opinion^, which for the moft part are about -nice and intricate matters, that exceed the capacity of ordinary underftandings ? Which of the parties coateading about thefe- things is in the right, which of them is guilty of fchifmor herefie, whether thofe that domineer or thofe that fuffer, will then at laft be manifeft, wheh the caufe of their feparation comes to be judged of. He certainly that fol- lows Chrift, embraces his dodirine, and bears his yoke, tho' he forfake both father and mother, feparate from the public aflemblies and ceremonies of his country, or whottifoever, or whatfoever eHe he relinquiihes, will not then be judged an heretic. Now, tho' the divifions that are amongft fe<3:s fhould be allowed to be never fo obftrudtive of the falvation of fouls ; yet neverthele£s adultery, fornieathn, uncleannefs, lafcivioujhefs, idolatry,y and fuch like things, cannot be denied to be isiorks ofthefiejh; concerning which the Apoftle has exprcfly declared, that they 'who do them JJoall not inherit the kingdom of God^-Gal. v. Whofoever therefore is fincerely folicitous about the kingdom of God, and thinks it his duty to endeavour the enlargement of it amongft men, ought to apply him-' felf with no lefs care and induftry to the rooting out of thefe immoralities,, than to the extirpation of fefbs. But if any one do otherwife, and whilft he is cruel and implacable towards thofe that differ from him ih opinion, he be indulgent to fuch iniquities and immoralities as are unbecoming the name of a Chriftian, let fuch a one talk never fo much of the church, he plainly demonilrates by his adlions, that 'tis another kingdom he aims at, and not- the advancement of the kingdom of God. That any man fhould think fit to caufe another man, whofe felvation he- heartily defires, to expire in torments, and that even in an unconverted eftate, would, I confefs, fcem very fbange to me, and, I think, to any other alfo. But no body, furelyi wijl ever believe that fuch a carriage can proceed from charity, love, or good-wilf. If any one maintain that men ought to be, Qompelled by fire and fword to profefs certain doariaes^ anci conform to thi» ©r A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION or that exteriour watfliip, without any regard had unto their morals -, if any one endeavour to conv&rt thofe that are erroneous unto the faith, by forcing them to profefs things that they dp not believe, and allow^ing them to prac- tife things that the Gofpel does not permit ; it cannot be doubted indeed that fiich a one is defirous to have a numerous aflembly joined in the fame pro- feffion -with himfelf ; but that he principally intends by thofe means to com- pofe a truly Chriftian church, is altogether incredible. It is hot therefore to be wondred at, if thofe vs^ho do not really contend for the advancement of the true religion, and of the church of Chrift, make ufe of arms that do not belong to the Chriftian warfare. If, like the captain of our falvation, they fincerely defired the good of Ibuls, they would tread in the ileps, and follow the perfeft example of that prince of peace, who fent put- his fol- diers to the fiibduing of natLpnSj and gathering them into his church, not armed with the fwofd, or other inftruments of force, but prepared with the Gofpel pf peace, and with the exemplary holinefe of their converfation. This was his method. Tho' if infidels> were to be converted by force, if thofe that are either blind or obftinat'C were to be drawn off from their errors by armed foldiers. We know very well that it Was much more eafy for him to do it with armies of heavenly kgions, than for any fon of the church, how potent fbev?>r, with all his dragoons. The toleration o-f thofe that differ from Pthers in matters of religion, is fo agreeable to the Gofpel of Jefus Chrifl, and to the genuine reafon of man- kind, that it feems monftrous for men to be fo blind, as not to perceive the neceffity and advantage of it, in fp clear a light. I will not here tax the pride and ambition pf fome, the paffion and uncharitable zeal of others. Thefe are faults. from, which human affairs can perhaps fcarce ever be per- fedly freed j but yet fuch as no body will bear the plain imputation of, without cov€ri>ng them with fome fpecious colour j and fo pretend to com* mendatioH, whilft they are carried away by their own irregular paffions. But however, that fonie may not colour their fpirit of perfecution and un- chriflian cruelty, with a pretence of care of the public weal, and obfervation of the laws ; and that others, under pretence of r-eligioo, may not feek im- punity for their libertinifni and licentieufnefs ; iii a word, that none may impofe either upon hiin&lf or others, by the pretences of loyalty and obe- dience to the prince, or of tendernefs and fincerity in the worfhip of God i I &Q.-^em it above all things fteceffary to diftinguifh exactly the bufinefs of civil government from that pf religion, and to fettle the juft bounds tjiat lie betwieen the one and the other. If this be not done, there can be no^nd put to the controverfies that will be always arifing ;between thofe th^t have, or a,t le^ pretend to have, on the one-fide, a concernment for the interefl of mens fouls, and on the other fide, a care of the commonwealth. , The commonwealth feems to me to be a fociety of men conftituted only for the procuring, preferving, and advancing their own cwi/ interejls. ■Crwii interejls I e?^i:\\.ic, liberty, health, and'indolency of body; and the pofTefTion of outward things, fuch as money, lands, houfes» furniture, and the Uke, Fa It .*• S6 A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION It Is the duty of the civil magiftFiate, by the impartial execution of equal laws, to fecure unto aH the people in general, and to every one of his fubjefts in particular, the juft polieffion of thefe things belonging to this life. If any one prefume to violate the laws of public juftice and equity, eftabhfhed for the prefervalion of thefe things, his prefumption is ta be checked by the fear , 0-f punifhment, confifting in the deprivation or diminution of thofe civil in- tei-efts, or goods, which otherwife he might and ought to enjoy. ' But feeing- no man does willingly fuffer himfelf to be puniflied by the deprivation of ariy- pait of his goods, and much lefs of his liberty or life, therefore is the ma-" giftrate armed with the force and ftrength of all his fubjedls, in order to the^ punifliment of thoft that violate any other man's rights. Now that the whole jurifdidtion of the magiftrate reaches only to thefe civil concernments.; and that all civil power, right and dominion, is bounded and confined to the only care of promoting thefe things j and that it neither can- nor ought in any manner to be extended to the falvation of fouls, thefe: following confiderations feem unto me abundantly to demonflfate, Fir/}, Becaufe the care of fouls is not committed to the civil magiflratei, -anf more thaii to other men. It is not committed unto him, I lay, by Gody becaufe it appears not that God has ever given- any fuch authority to one man over another, as to compel any one to his religioa. Nor can any fiich power be vefled in the magiftrafc by the confent of the people ; becaufe no man can fo far abandon the care of his own falvation, as blindly to leave- it to jhe choice of any other, whether prince or fubjedt, to prefcribe to him what faith or worfhip he feall embrace. For no man can, if he would, conform his faith to the didtates of another. All the life and power of true- religion confifls in the outward and full perfuafion of the mind y and faith is not faith without believing. Whatfever profeffion we make, to whatever outwafrd woi-fhip we conform, if we are not fully fetisfied in our own mindf that the One is true, aad the other well pleafing unto God, fuch profeffioR' and fueh pradtice, far from being any furthepance, are indeed- great obftacleff to' bur falvation. For in this manner, inflead of expiating other fkis by the exercife of religion, I fay, in offering thus unto God Almighty fuch a worfhip a« ive efleem to be difpleafing unto him, we add' unto the num- ber of Our other fins, thofe alfo of hypocrify, and contempt' of his Divine- Majefly. In the fecond place. The care of fouls cannot befong to the-civitmagiflratei.. becaufe his power confifls only in outward force : but true and faving reli- gion confifts in the inward perfuafion of the min-di without which^ nothing- can be acceptable to God. And fuch is the nature of the underflanding, that it cannot be compelled to the belief of any thing- by outward' force. Con- fifcation of eflate, imprHbnment, torments, nothing of that nature can have- any fuch efficacy as to make men change the inward- judgment that they havfe framed of things. It may indeed- be alledged, that the magiflrate may make ufe of argu- ments, and thereby draw the heterodox into the way of truth) and procure their A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATIOtI tlieir falvation. I grant it; butthis is common to him with other men. In: teaching, inftruding, and redreflihg the erroneous by reafon, he may cer- tainly do what becomes any good man to do. Magiflracy does not obb'ge him to put off" either humanity or chrtftianity. But it is one thing to per^ fwade, another to command; one thing to prefs with arguments, another with' penalties. This the civil power alone has a right to do ; to the other good- will is authority enough. Every man has commiffijm to admonifh, exhorti. convince another of error, and by reafoning to draw him into truth : but to give laws, receive obedience, and compel with the fword, belongs to none but the magiftrate.; And upon this ground I affirm, that the magiftrate'Sr power extends not to the eftablifliing of any articles of faitb> or forms of worfliip, by the force of his laws. For laws .are of no force at all without penalties, and penalties in this cafe are abfolutely impertinent; becaufe thejr are not proper to convince the mind. Neither the prcrfeffion of any articles' of faith, nor the conformity to any outward form of worfbip-, as has beea already faid, can be available to the falvation of fouls, unlefs the truth of the one, and the acceptablenefs of the other unto God^ be thoroughly believect by thofe that fo profels and pradife. But penalties are no ways capable to* produce fuch belief. It is- only light and evidence that can wor'k a change in mens opinions ; and that light can in no manner proceed from corporal fuf- ferings, or any other outward" penaMes. In the- third place. The care of the falvation* of mens fouls cannot bdong^ to the magiftrate ; becaufe, though the rigour of laws and the force of pe- nalties were capable to convince and change mens minds, yet would not thajr help at all to the falvation of their ftjuls. For, there being but one truth, one way to heaven ; what hopes is there that more men would be led inta it, if they had no other rule to follow but the religion of the cotirt, and were put under a neceffity t& quit the light of their own reafon, to oppofe the dictates' ©f their own confciences, and blindly to re%n up- themfelvey to the will oF their governors, and to the religion, which either ignorance, ambition, or fiiperftitioa had chanced to- eftabli^ in the countries where thqr were born ? In the variety and conti'adi<3:ion of opinions in- religion, wherein the princes- ef the world are as much divided as in their fecular interefts, the narrow way would be much ftraitned ; one country alone would be in the right, and all* the reft of the world pat undep an (^ligation, of following their princes in the ways that lead to deftrudion : and that which heightens the abfurdity,. and very ili fuits ^e notion, of a Deit)?, men would owe their eternal- happi— nefs or mifery to the placest of their nativity. Thefe confiderations, to omit many- others thaf might have Been^ m-gei^ to the fame purpofci- feem unto me fufficient to conclude that all the power «f civil government relates only to mens civil interefts, is confined to the care of the things o£ this- world, and hatb nothing to do- with the world t& €ome. Let us nonv conftder what a church rr. A cliureh then I take to be a vo- luntary fociety of men, joining themfclves together of theiE own. accoid, iEK sEffidfijT 38 A, I^ETTER CONCERNING TOLERATJON order to the public worihipping of Gad, in fuch a manner as they judge ac- ceptable to him, and effe which upon confideration we prefer, jind ifi the laji place, I confent that thefe men have a ruler of their church, eftabliihed by fuch a long feries of fucpeffion as they judge neceffary, provided I may have liberty at the fame tinie to join myfelf to that fociety, in which I am perfuaded thofe things are to be found which are neceffary to- the falvation of my foul. In this manner ecclefiaftical liberty will be pre- ferved on all fides, and no man will have a legifktor impofed upon him, but whom himfelf has chofen. Bat fince men arc fa follicitous about the true chiirch, I would only afld. them here by the way, if it be not more agreeable to the church of Chrift,- to make the conditions of her communion cbnfift in fuch things, and fuch things- only, as the Holy Spirit has in the Holy Scriptures declared, in ex- prefs words,^^ to be neceffary to falvation -, I afk, I fay, whether this be not more agreeable to the church of Chrift, than for men to impofe their own inventions and interpretations upon others, as if they were of Divine autho- rity; and to eftablifh by ecclefiaftical laws, as abfolutely necefTary to the pro- feffion of Chriftianity, fuch things as the Holy Scriptures do either not mention, or at leaft not exprefly command. Whoioever requires thofe things in order to ecclefiaftical communion, which Chrkl does not require in ordef to life eternal, he may perhaps indeed conftitute a fociety accom- modated to his own opinion, and his own advantage ; but how that can h& called the chui'ch of Chrift, which is eftabliftied upon laws that are not his,, and which excludes fuch perfons from its communion, as he will one day receive into the kingdom of Heaven, I underftand not. But this being not a proper place to enquire into the marks of the true church, I will only mind thofe that contend fo earn-eftly for the decrees of their own fociety, and that Cry out continually the church, the church, with as much noife, and perhaps upon the fame principle, as the Epheftan filverfrtiitbs did for their Diana j this, I fay, I defire to mind them of, that the Gofpel frequently declares that the true difciples of Chrift muft fuffer perfecution; but that the church of Chrift fbould perfecute others, and force others by fire and fword,. to embrace her faith and dodlrine, I could never yet find in any of the books let jthofe men confider how heinoufly they fin, who, adding injuftiee, if not to their error, yet certainly to their pride, do rafhly and arrogantly take upon them to mifufe the fer- vants of another mafter, who are not at all accountable to them. Nay, further : if it cou^d be manifefb which- of thefe two diffenting churches were in the right way, there would not accrue thereby unto the or- thodox any right of deftroying the other, l^or churches have neither any ju- rifdiftion in worldly matters, nor are fire and fword any proper inftruments wherewith to convince mens minds of error, and inform them of the truth. Let us fuppofe, neverthelefs, that the civil magiftrate inclined to favour one of them, and to put his fword into their hands-, that, by his confent, they might ehaftize the diffenters as they pleafed. Will any man, fay, that any right can be derived unto a Chriftian church, over its brethren, from a Turkifh emperor ? An infidel, who has himfelf no aiithority to punifh Chriftians for the articles of their faith, cannot confer fuch an authofity up*- on ^ny fociety of Chriftians, nor give unto them a right which he has not himfelf. This would be the cafe at Conftantinopk. And the reafon of the thing is the fame in any Chriftian kingdom. The civil power is the fame in every place : nor can that power, in the hands of a Chriftian prince, confer any greater authority upon the church, than in the hands of a heathen i which is to fay, juft none at all. Neverthelefs, it i& worthy to be obferved, and lamented, that the moft violent of thefe defenders of the truth, the oj^ofers of errors, the exclaimefs, againft fchifm, do hardly ever let loofe this their zeal for God, with which . they are fo warmed and inflamed, unlefs where they have the civil magis- trate on their fide. But fo foon as ever court-^favour has given them the betta end of the ftaff, and they begin to feel themfelves the ftronger, then pre- fently peace and charity are to be laid afide : otlierwife, they are religioufly to be obferved. Where they have not the pdwer to carry on perfecution, and to become mafters, there they defire to live upon fair terms, and preach up Toleration. When they are not ftr^ogthned with the civil power* then they can bear moft patiently, and unmovedly, the contagion of iSHIatryi fuper^ ftition, and herefie, in their neighbourhood j of which, in other occafions^ the intereft of religion makes them to be extremely apprehenfive. They do not forwardly attack thofe errors which are in fafliion at court, or are countenanced by the government. Here they can be content to fyzT'et their arguments : which yet, with their leave, is the only right method of propagating truth, which has no fuch way of prevailing, as when ftrong; arguments and good reafon, are joined with the foftnefs of civility and good ufage. No body therefore, in fine, neither fingle perfona, nor churches, nay, nor even commonwealths, have any juft title to invade the civil rights and worldly goods of each other, upon pretence of religion. Thofe that are of another opinion, would do well to confider with theiiifelveS how pernicious, a feed of difcord and war, how powerful a provocation to endlefs hatreds* rapines, and flaughters, they thereby furnifli unto mankind. Ko peace and fecurity* A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION fecurity, no not fo much as common friendfhi'p, can ever be eftablifhed or preferved amongft men, fo long aS this opinion prevails, that dominion is founded in graeet and that religion is to be propagated by force of arms. ' In the third piace : Let us fee what the duty of Toleration requires from thofe who are diftinguifhed from the reft of mankind, from the 'laity, as they pleafe to call us, by fome ecclefiaftical charadter and office -, whether they.be bifhops, priefts, preibyters, miaifters, or however elfe dignified or diftin- guifeed. It is not my bufinefs to inquire here into the original of the power or digniCy of the clergy. This only I fay, that whence-foever their authority be fprung, fince it is ecclefiaftical, it ought to be confined within the bounds of the church, nor can it in any manner be extended to civil afi^airs j be- caufe the church itfelf is a thing abfolutely feparate and diftind: from the commonwealth. The boundaries on both fides -are fixed and immoveable. He jumbles heaven and earth together, the things moft remote and oppofite, who mixes thefe fociedes ; which are in their original, end, bufinefs, and in every *hing, perfeSly diftandt, and infinitely different from each other. No man therefore, with whatfbever ecclefiaftical office he be digni- fied, can deprive another man that is not of his church and faith, either of liberty, or of any paart of his worldly goods, upon the account of that dif- ference which is between them in religion. For whatfoever is not law- ful to the whole oburch, cannot, by any ecclefiaftical right, become lawful to «ny of its members. Buft -this is not ail. It is not enough that ecclefiaftical men abftain from violence and rapine, and all manner of perfecution. He that pretends to be a fuccefTor of the Apoftles, and takes upon him th^ office ctf teaching, is obl%i5d alfo to adimonifli his hearers of the duties of peace, and good-will towards all men j as well towards the erroneous as tiie orthodox ; towards thofe that di the worlhippers of God ? For the greateft- part of. thefe- ceremonies and fuperftitions confifts in the religious ufe of fuch things as are in their own nature indifferent : nor are they finful upon any other account than becaufe God is not the author of them. The fprinkling of water, and the ufe of bread and wine, are both in their own nature, and in the ordi- nary occafipns of life, altogether indifferent. Will any man therefore fay that thefe things could have been introduced into religion, and made a part of divine worftiip, if not by divine inftkution ? If any human authority or civil power could have done this, why might it not alfo enjoyn the eating of fifli, and drinking of ale, in the holy banquet, , as a part of divine worfhip ?- Why not the fprinkling of the blood of beafts, ia churches, and expiations, by water or fire, and abundance more of this kind .'* But thefe things, how indifferent foever they be in common ufes, when they come to be annexed; unto divine worftiip, without divine authority, they- are as abominable to- God, as thdT facrifice of a dog. And v^hy a dog fo abominable ? What dif-^ ference is there between a dog and a goat, in refpedt of the divine nature,, equally and infinitely diftant from all affinity with matter ; unlefs it be that God required the ufe of the one in his worftiip, and not of the other ? We- fee therefore that indifferent things, how much foever they be under the. power of the civil magiftrate, yet cannot upon that pretence be introduced^ into religion, and impofed upon religious affemblies^ becaufe in the worftiip. of God they wholly ceafe to be indifferent. He that worfliips God does it with defign to pleafe him and procure his favour. But that cannot be. done by him, who, upon the command of. another,, offers unto God that which he knows will be difpleafing to him, becaufe not commanded by him- felf. This is not to- pleafe God, or appeafe his wrath, but willingly andi knowingly to provoke him, by a manifeft contempt j which is^ a thing abfa- lutely repugnant lo the nature and end of worftiip. But it will here be afked : If nothing -belonging to divine worftiip- be left to human difcretion, how is it then that churches- themfelves ba:ve the povsrer of ordering any thing about the time and place of worftiip, and the like "h To this I anfwer; that in religious 'jyorftiip we muft diftinguifti between^ what is part of the worftiip itfelf, and what is but a circumftance. That i& a part of the worftaip which is believed to be appointed by God, and to bet well pleafing to him j and therefore that is neceffaEy. Circumfta^ces- ara fuch things which, tho' in geegral they cannot be feparated from worftiip,. yet the particular inftances.or rnddifications of them are not determined j; and therefore they are indifferent. Of this fort are the time and place o£ worftiip, the habit and pofture of him that worftiips. Thefe are circum- flances, and perfe^y indifferent, where God has not given any exprefs com~ mand about them. For example. : amongft. the jf^mr, the time and place. <©£■ A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION ■of their worfliip, and the habits of thofe that officiated in it, were not mere circumftances, but a part of the worfhip it felf ; in which if any thing were defedlive, or different from the inftitution, they could not hope that it would be accepted by God. But thefe, to Chriftians under the liberty of, the Gofpel, are mere circumftances of worfliip, which the prudence of every church may bring into fuch ufe as ihall be judged moft fubfervient to the end of order, decency, and edification. Though even under the Gofpel alfo thofe who believe the firft, or the feventh day to be fet apart by God, and confecrated ftill to his worfliip, to them that portion of time is not a fimple circumftance, but a real part of divine worfhip, which can neither be changed nor negledled. In the next place: As the magiftrate has no power to impofe by his laws, the ufe of anji rites and ceremonies in any church, fo neither has he any power to forbid \h& ufe of fuch rites and ceremonies as are already received, approved, and praCtifed by any church : becaufe if he did fo, he would de- ilroy the church itfelf j the end of whofe inftitution is only to worfhip God with freedom, after its own manner. You will fay, by this rule, if fome congregations fhould have a mind to facrifice infants, or, as the primitive Chriftians were falfly accufed, luftfuUy pollute themfelves in promifcuous uncleannefs, or pradtife any other fuch heinous enormities, is the magiftrate obliged to tolerate them, becaufe they are committed in a religious aifembly ? I anfwer, No. Thefe things are not lawful in the ordinary courfe of life, nor in any private houfe j and - therefore neither are they fo in the worfhip of God, or in any religious meeting. But indeed if any people congregated upon account of religion, fhould be defirous to facrifice a calf, I deny that that ought to be prohibited by a law. Meliboeus, whofe calf it is, may lawfully kill his calf at home, and burn any part of it that he thinks fit. For no injury is thereby done to any one, no prejudice to another man's goods. And for the fame reafon he may kill his calf alfo in a religious meeting. Whether the doing fb be well- pleafing to God or no, it is their part to confider that do it. The part of the magiftrate is only to take care that the common-wealth receive no pre- judice, and that there be no injury done to any man, either in life or eftate. And, thus what may be fpent on a feaft, may be fpent on a facrifice. But if peradventure fuch were the ftate of things, that the intereft of the common- wealth required all {laughter of beafts fhould be forborn for fome while, in order to the encreafing of the ftock of cattle, that had been deftroyed by fome extrac^rdinary murrain ; who fees not that the magiftrate, in fuch a ,cafe, may forbid all his fubjedts to kill any calfs for any ufe whatfoever ? -Only it is to be obferved, that in this cafe the law is not made about a reli- gious, but a political matter : nor. is the facrifice, but the flaughter of calve^ {thereby prohibited. By this we fee what difference there is between the church and the com- ,mon-\vealth. Whatfoever, is lawful in the common-wealth, cannot be pro- hibited by the magiftrate in the church. Whatfoever is permitted unto any iof his fubjeds for their ordinary ufe,. neither can nor ought to be forbidden H 2* by A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION . by him to any m of people for their religious ufes. _ If any man^may law- fully tale bread or wine, either fitting or.kneeling^ in his own houfe, the law ought not' to abridge him of the fame liberty m his rehgtmis wortoi though in the church the ufe of bread and wine be very diiferent, and be there applied to the myfteries of faith,, and rites of divine worfhip. _ But thofe things that are prejudicial to the commonweal of a people in their or- dinary ufe, and are therefore forbidden by laws, thofe things ought not to be permitted to churches in their -facred rites. Only the magiftrate ought always to be very careful that he do not mifufe his authority, to the op- preffion of any churchy under pretence of public good. It may be faid,'what if a church be idolatrous, is that alfo to be tolerated by the magiftrate ? In anfwer, I aik, what power can be given to the magiilrate for the fuppreflion of an idolatrous church, which may not, intfime and place* be made ufe of to the ruin of an orthodox one ? For it muft be remembred, that the civil power is the fame every where, and the religion of every prince is orthodox to himfelf. If therefore fuch a pbwer be granted unto the civil magiftrate in fpirituals, as that at Geneva, for example, he may extir- pate, by violence and blood, the religion which is there reputed idolatrous;; by the fame rule, another magiftrate, in fome neighbouring country, may ■opprefs the reformed religion; and, in India, the Chriftian. The civil power can either change every thing in religion, according to the prince's pleafure, or it can change nothing. If it be once permitted' to introduce any thing into religion, by the means -of laws and penalties, there can be no- bounds put to it J but it will in the fame manner be lawful to alter every thing, according to that rule of truth which the magiftrate has framed unta himfelf. No man whatfoever ought therefore to be deprived of his terrefr trial enjoyments, upon account of bis religion. Not even Americans, fub- jefted unto a Chriftian prince, are to be punifhed either in body or goods^ for not embracing our faith and worfhip. If they are perftjaded that they pleafe God in obferving the rites of their own country, and that they {hall obtain happinefs by that means, they are to be left unto God and thehbfelves^. Let us trace this matter to the bottom. Thus it is : an inconfiderable and weak number of Ghriftians, deftitute of every thing, arrive in a pagaa • country ; thefe foreigners befeech the inhabitants, by the bowels of huma- nity, that they would fuccour them with the neceflaries of life ; thofe- necefTaries are given them, habitations are granted, and they 'all join toge- • ther, and grow up into one body of people. The Chriftian religion by this. means takes root in that country, and/preads itfelf ; but does |aot fuddenPjr- grow tile ftrongeft. While things, are in this condition, peace, friendftiip^, faith, and equal juftice, ace preferved amongft them. At length, the ma- giftrate becomes a Chriftian, and by that means their party becomes the moft powerful. Then immediately all compadis are to be broken, all civit rights to be violated, that idolatry may be extirpated : and unlefs thefe inno- cent pagans, fttidt obfervqrs of the rules of equity and the law of nature^, and no ways offending againft the laws of the fociety, I fay unlefs they will foffake their ancient religion^, and eaibra.ce a new and ftcange one,, they are> A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION to be turned out of tbe lands and polTeffions of rfieir forefathers, and perhaps deprived of life itfelf. Then at laft it appears what zeal for the church, joined with the defire of dominion, is capable to produce ; and how eafxiy the pretence of religion, and of the care of fouls, ferves for a cloak to co- vetoufnefs, rapine, and ambition. I Now whofoever maintains that idolatry is to be rooted out of any place by laws, punifbmeints, fire and fword, may apply this ftory to himfelf. For the reafon of the thing is equal, both in America and E^urope. And neither pagans there, nor any diflenting Chriftians here, can with any right be de- prived of their worldly goods, by the predominatiing feftion of a court- church: nor are any civil rights to be either changed or violated upon account of religion in one place 'more than another. But idolatry, fay fome, is a fin, and therefore not to be tolerated. If they faid it were therefore to be avoided, the inference were good. But it ■does not follow, that becaufe it is a fin it ought therefore to be punifhed by ■the magrftrate. For it does not belong unto the magiflrate to make ufe of his fword in puniftjing every thing, indifferently, that he takes to be a firt againft God. Covetoufnefs, uneharitablenefs, idlenefs, and many other things are fins, by tbe confent of all men, which yet no man ever faid were to be punifhed by the magiftrate. The realbn is, becaufe they are not pre- judicial to other mens rights, nor do tKey break the public peace of focieties. Nay, even the fins of lying and perjury are no where punifhable by laws j, unlefs in certain cafes, in which the real turpitude of the thing,^ and the of- fence againfi: God, are not confidered, but only the injury done unto mens, neighbours, and to the comifton wealth. And what if in another country^ to,a3y[ahumetan or a pagan prince, the Chriftian religion feem falfe and of- fenfive to God ; may not the Chrifl:ians for tbe fame reafon, and after the fame manner, be extirpated there ? But it may be urged farther, that by the law of -Mofes. idolaters were to be rooted out. True indeed, by the law of Mofes; but that is not obligatory to us Chriftians. No body pretends that every thing, generally, enjoyned by tbe law of Mofes, ought to ht pradlifed by Chriftians. But there is no- thing more frivolous than that common diftindion of moral, judicial, and ceremonial law, which men ordinarily make ufe of. For no pofitive law^ whatfoev^r can oblige any people but thofe to whom, it is given. Hear Ifraeli fufficiently retlrainsthe obligation of the law of Mofet only to that people. And this confideration alone is anfwer enough unto thofe that urge thf authority of the law of Mofes, for the inflidting of capital punishments upon idolaters. But however, I will examine this argument a Httle more particularly. • The cafe of idolaters,' in refpedl o that is, to em- brace their religion. But this he did wilHngly, on his. awn accord, not by conftraint. He did not unwillingly fubmit, to fhew his obedience j but ha fought and foUicited for it, as a privilege. And as foon as he was admitted, he became fubjedt to the laws of the commonwealth, by which all idolatry was forbidden within, the borders of the land of Canaan. But that law, as* I have faid, did mot reach to any of thofe regions, bQwever fubje(Sed unto» the Jews, that were fituated without thofe bounds. Thus far concerning outward worfhip. Let us now coafider articles of faith. The articles of religion are fome of them praSiical, a-nd ikim'tfpeeulative^ Now, tho' both forts confift in the knowledge of truth, yet thefe terminate- fimply in the underftanding, thofe influence the will and manners. Specu- lative opinions, therefore, and articles of faith, as they are called, which are required only to be believed, cannot be impofed on any church by the law ©f the land. For it is abfurd that things fliould be enjoyned by laws, which) are not in mens power to perform. And to believe this or that to be true,, does not depend upon our will. But of this enough has been faid already. But, will fome fay, let men at leaft profefs that they believe. Afweet reli- gion indeed, that obliges men to diifemblej and tell lies- both to God and man, for the falvation of their fouls ! If the magiftrate thinks to iave men. thus, he feems. to underhand little of the way of falvation. And. if he does it not in order to. fave them, why is he fo foUicitous abaut the articles of" faith as to enad them by a law ? Further, The magiftrate ought not to forbid the preaching or profefling of any fpeculative opinions in any church, becaufe they have no manner o£ relation to the civil rights of the fubjefts. If a Roman Catholic believe thaJi to be really the body of Chrift, which another man calls bread, he does no injury thereby to his neighbour. If a Jew. da not believe the New Tefta- ment to be the word of Gk)d, he does not thereby alter any thing in mens civil rights. If a heathen doubt of both Teftaments„ he is not therefore to- be punifhed as a pernicious citizen. The power of the magiftrate, and the eftates of the people, may be Equally fecure, whether any man. believe thefe things or no. V\ readily grant, that thefe opinions are falfe and abfurd^ But the bufinefs of laws is not to. provide for the truth of opinions, but for the fafety and fccurity of the commonwealth^ and of every particular man's goods and perfon. ^And fo.it ought to be. For truth certainly would dO' well enough, if fhe were onee lefc ta ftiift for herfelf.. She feldom has re- ceived, and I fear never will receive much afllftance from the, power of" great men, to whom, fhie is but rarely known, and more rarely welcomci. She is not taught by laws, nor has (he any need of force ta procure her en- trance into the minds of men. Errors indeed prevail by. the affiftance oF foreign and borrowed fuccours. But if Truth jnake^. not hen way iatoths; «uiderftanding by her own lig^htj^ fh.e will be but the weaker for any borrowedS f©xce: A LETTER GONCERNINC TOLERATION force violence pan add to her. Thus much for fpecuktive opiaions. Let us now pFoceedi to praSikal ones, A^ good life, in which confifts not the leafl part of religion and true piety, concerns alfo the civil government: and in it lies the fafety both of mens fouls, and of the commonwealth. Moral anions belong therefore to the jurifdidtion both of the outward and inward court ;, both of the civil and do- meftic governor ; I mean, both of the magiftrate and confeienee. Here therefore is great danger, left one of thefe jorifdiaions intrench upon ther other, and difcord arife between the keeper of the public peace and the overfeers of fouls. But if what has been already faid cxmcerning the limits, of both thefe governments^ be rightly confidered, it will eafily VGvame all dif- ficulty in this matter. Every man has an immortal foial, capable of eternal happrnefs^or mifery ; whofe happinefs depending upon his believing and doing thofe things in this life, which are neeeffary to the obtaining of God's favour, and are prefcribed by God to that end; it follows from thence j Firfi, That the obfervance of thefe things is the higheft obligation that lies upon mankind, and that our utmoft care, application, and diligence, ought to be exercifed in the fearch and performance of them ; becaufe there is nothing in this world that is of any coniideration in comparifon with eternity. Secondly, That feeing one man does not violate the right of anoiJiher, by his erroneous opinions, and undue manner of worfhip, nor is his perdition any prejudice, to another man's affairs; 'therefore the care of each man's falvation bdongs only, to himfelf. But I would not have this underftood, as if I meant hereby to condemn all charitable admonitions, and affiedlionate endeavours to reduce men from errors ; which are indeed the greateft duty of a Chriftian, Any one may employ as many exhortations and arguments as he pleafes, towards the promoting of another man's falvation. But all force and compulfion are to be forborn. Nothing is to be done imperioully. No body is obliged in that matter to yield obedience unto the admonitions or injundtions of an- other, farther than he himfelf is perfuaded. Every man, in that, has the fupreme and abfolute authority of judging for himfelf. And the reafon is, becaufe no body elfe is concerned in it, nor can receive any prejudice from his condu but only to fecure every man's pofleffion of the things of this life. The care of each man's foul, and of the things of hea- ven, which neither does belong to the commonwealth, nor can be fubjedted to it, is left entirely to every man's felf. Thus the fafeguard of mens lives, and of thiB things that belong unto this life, is the bqfmefs of the common- I wealth; A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION wealth ; and the preferving of thofe things unto their owners, is the doty of the magiftrate. And therefore the magiftfate eanngt take away thcfe worldly things from this man, or party, .a«d give them to that; nor change propriety anwngft fellow- fubje if be make it bis bufinefs to enrich and advance his followers ^i^d fellow- fedtaries, with the fpoils of other?. But what if the magiftrate be-# lieve that he has a right to m,ake fuch, laws, and that they are for the pub- lic good ; and his fubjiedts believe the contrary ? Who fhall be judge betwe^u them ? I anfwer, God alone. For there is no ju4ge upon eardb between the fupreme magiftrate and the people. God, I fay, is the only judge in this cafe, who will retribute unto every one at the laft day according to his de-i^ ferts ; that^ is, according to his fincerity and uprightnefs in endeavouring ta promote piety, and the public weal and peace of mankind. But what Iball be done in the mean while ? ' I ainfwer : the principal and chief care of every- one qught to be of his own foul firft, and in the next place, of the public peace : tho' yet there are very few will think 'tis peace there, where they fee all laid wafte. There are two forts of contefts amongft men ; the one managed by lawj the other by force : and thefe are of that nature, that where the one ends, the other always begins. But it is not my huiinefs ta enquire into the power of the magiftrate in the different conftitutions of na^ tions. I only know what ufually happens where controverfies arife, without a> judge to determine them.. You will fay then the magiftrate being the ftronger will have hi« will, and carry his point. Without doubt. But the queftion is not here concerning the doubtfulnefs of the event, but the rule, of right. But to come to particulars. I fay,^ Fir^, No opinions contrary to humaa- ipciety, or to. thofe moral rules whicb are neceflary to the prefervation of civil fociety, are to be tolerated by the magiftrate. But of thefe indeed ex- amples in any church are rare. For no fedt can eafily arrive to fuch' a. degrcet of madnefs, as that it fhould think fit to teach, for dodtrines of religion, fuck things as manifeftly undermine the foundations of fociety, and are therefore condemned by the judgment of all, mankind : becaufe their owji interefl^.^ peace, reputation,, every thing would be thereby endangered. Another more fecret evil, but more dangerous to the commonwealth, is-' when men arrogate to themfelves, and to th^eof theis own fed, fome peculiar prerogative covered over with a fpeeious fhew of deceitfxil words,. but in effedl? oppofite to the civij right of the coaimunity. For examples .We cannot. A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION €ndany f&ft that teaches exprefsljr anii openly, that men are not obliged to keep their promife i that princes rii^y be dethroned by thbfe that differ from them in religion ; or that the doniinion of all things belongs only to them- ^Ives. For thefe things, prdpofed thus nakedly and plainly, would foon draw on them the eye and hand of the magiftrate, ' and awaken all the ^ Care of the commonwealth to a watchfulnefs againft the fpreadirig of •fo dahg€rous an evil. But neverthelefs, we find thofe that fay the fame thitigs, in other wordis. What elfe do they mean, who teach that Jart^ is not to \>e heft with heretics ? Their meaning, forfooth, is that the privilege of breaking faith belongs unto themfelves : for they declare all that are not of their communion to be heretics, or at leaft may declare them fo v/henfoever they think fit. What can be the meaning of their afferting that kings eX" tommumcated forfeit theiy crowns and kingdoms ? It is evident that they thereby arrogate unto themfelvts the power of depofing kings : becaufe they challenge the power of excommunication as the peculiar right of their hierarchy. That dominion is fiunded in grace, is alfo an affertion by which thofe that maintain it do plainly lay claim to the pofTeffion of all things. For th«y are not fo wanting to themfelves as not to believe, or at leafl as not to {jrcfefe themfelves to be the truly pious and faithful. Thefe therefore, ahd the li&e, who attribute unto the faithful, religious, arid orthodox, that is, in plain terms, unto themfelves, any peculiar privilege or power above other itkortafe, in civil concernnients j or who, ■ upon pretence of religion, do challenge any manner of authority over ftich, as are not affociated with them, in their ecclefiaftical communion ; I fay thefe have nd right to be tolerated hj the magiftrate j as neither thofe that -tvill not own and teach the duty of tolerating all men in matters of mere religion. For what do all thefe and the like dodtrines fignify, but that they may, and ai-e ready upon any occafidn to feize the government, and pofTefs themfelves of the eftates and fortunes of their fellow-fubjeds j and that they only afk leave to be tolerated by the magiflrate fo long, until they find themfelves flrong enough to effedt it. ' Jig$tn : That churth can have fio right to' be tolerated by the magiflratej ■Whithfe coaf^tuted upon fuch a bottom, that all thofe who enter into it, da thereby ipfofa&a, deli-ver themfel'ves up to' the proteiStion and fervice of an- other prince. For by this means' the magiftrate would give way to the.fettling of a foreign- jurifdidion in his own cou'ntry, and fuffer his own people to be lifted, as it' were, for foldlers againft his own government. N r does the frivotousi and fallacious diftiUfftion between the court shd tbe church afford sny ttt&t&j to this inconventence ; efpecially when both the one and the other are equally fabje6t to the abfoFute authority of the fame perfon j v/hd has not only power to perfuade the members of his church to whatfoevep he Efts, either as purely religious, or as in order thereunto, but can alfo enjoyn it them on' pain of eternal fire. It is ridiculbus for any one to profefs himfelf to be a Mahumetan only in Ms religion, but in' every thing elfe a faithful fubjedt to aChrifHan magiftrate,- Whilft at the fame time he acknowledges himfelf bound to yield blind obedience to the Mufti dl Confiantinofle -, who himfelf is intirfely obedient to the Ottoman emperor, and frames the feigned oracles of that religron- according to his pleafee. But this 'Mahumetan living amongft - ' I 2 Chriftians, A -LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION Cbrlftlans, would yet more apparently renounce their government, if h« acknowledged the fame perfon to be head of his church, who isthefupreme magiftrate in the ftate, Lajily, Thofe are not at all to.be tolerated who deny the beingpf a God. Promifes, covenants, and oaths, which are the bonds of human fociety, can have no hold upon an atheift,. The taking away of God, tho' but even in thought, diffolves all. Befides alfo, thofe that by their atheifm undermine and dellroy all religion, can have no pretence of religioa whereupon to chal- lenge the privilege of a toleration. As for other pradiical opinions, tho' not abfolutely free from all error, yet if they do not tend to eftahliih domination over others, or civil impunity to the church in which, they are t^ight, there can be no reafon why they fhouldnot be tolerated. It remains that I fay fomethijig concerning thofe aflemblies,. which being vulgarly called, and perhaps, having fometimes heerk conventicles, andnurferies of fi^dions and feditions, are thought to afford the ftrongeft matter of objec* tion againft this dodlrine of toleration* But this has not happened by any thing peculiar unto the genius of fuch aflemblies, but by the unhappy cir- cumftances of an oppreffed or ill-fettled liberty. Thefe accufations- would foon ceafe, if the law of toleration were once fo fettled, that all churches were obliged to lay dowa toleration as the foundation of their own. liberty; and teach that liberty of confcience is every man's natural right, equally belonging^ to diflenters as. to themfelves; and that no body ought to be compelled ia matters of religion either by law or force. The eftablifhment of this one thing would take away all ground of complaints. and tumults. upon account of con^ fcience. And thefe caufes of difcontents and animofities being once removed, there would remain nothing in thefe aflemblies that were not more peaceable, and lefs apt to produce difturbance of ftate, than in any other meetings what- foever. But let us examine particularly theheads of thefe accufations. , You will fay, xhiXaJJemblies and meetings endanger the public peace, and threaten^ the commonwealth. I anfwer: if this be fo, why are there daily, fuch numerous meetings in markets, and courts of judicature? Why are crowds uponthe Ex- change, andaconcqurfe of people in cities fuffer£d? You. will reply j, Thefe are Civil aflemblies J. but Thofe we objed]t a^ainftu are ecclefiaftical. I anfwer: it isia likely thing indeed, that fuch aftembUes as are altogether remote from civil affairs, fhould be moft apt to embroil them. O, but civU afliemblies are comrr pofcc^ of me/i that differ from, one another in matters of religion.; bat thefe ee* clefiaftical meetings are of perfons that are all of one opinion. Asif an,agree— ment in matters, of religion, were in effeft a.confpiracy againft the commonr^ wealth; or as if men would not befo much the more, warmly unanimous in; religion,, die lefe liberty they had of afl"embling,. But it will be urged.ftill, that: civU aflTemblies are open, and free for anyone to enter into; whereas religious, conventicles are more private, and thereby give opportunity to. clandeftinc; machinations. I afifwec, that this is not ftridtly true : for many civil aflTemr blies are not open to every one.. And if fome religious meetings be. private^ who are they, J befeech you, that are to be blamed for, ife? thofe that, defire,! or thofe that forbid their being public ? Again ; you will fay, that religious. communiondQe& exceedingly unite mens minds and affeftions to one another,, ami A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION and Is therefore the trtdr6 dangerous; But if this be fo, why iis not the ma- giftrate afraid of his own church ; and Why does he not forbid their affemblies, as things dangerous to his government ? You will fay, becaufe he himfelf is a part, and even the head of them. As if he were not alio a part of the commonwealth, and the head of the whole people. Let us therefore deal plainly. The magiftrate is afraid of other churches, but not of his own ; becaufe he Is kind and favourablfe to the one, but fevere and cruel to the other. Thefe he treats like children, and indulges them even- to wantonnefs. Thofe he ufes as ftaves ; and how blamelefly foever they de- mean themfelves, recoimpenfes them no otherwife than by gallies, prifons,. confifcations and death. Thefe he- cherifhes and defends: thofe he- continu- ally fcourgesand opprefTes. Let him turn the tables : or let thofe diffenters; enjoy but the fame privileges in civils as his other fubjedls, and he will quickly find that thefe religious meetings will be no longer dangerous. For if men enter into feditious confpiracies, it is not religion infpires them to it in theisr meetings ; but their fuiFerings and oppreffions that make them willing to cafe themfelves. Juft and moderate governments are everywhere quiet, every where fafe. But oppreflion raifes ferments, and makes men ftruggle to caft off an uneafy and tyrannical yoke. I know that feditions are very frequently raifed upon pretence of religion. But it is as true, that, for religion, fub-« ]ed:9 arefrequently ill treated, and live miferably. Believe me, the ftirs that are made, proceed not from any peculiar temper of this or that church or religious fociety ; but from the common difpofitibn of all mankind, who- when they groan under any heavy burthen^ endeavour naturally to iliake off the yoke that galls their necks; Suppofe this bufinefs of religion were let alone, and that there were feme other diftindtion made between men and' men, upon account of their different complexions, fliapes, and features, fo that thofe who have black hair, for example, or grey eyes, fhou^Id- not enjoy the fame privileges as other citizens-j: that they fliouldnot be permitted either to buy or fell, or live by their callings; that parents fhould not have the go- vernment and education of their own children ; that they fhould either be ex- cluded from the benefit of the laws, or meet with partial judges ; can it be doubted but thefe perfons, thus diftinguiflied from others by the colour of their hair and eyes, and united together by one common perfecution, woultJ be as dangerous to the magiftrate, as any others that had affociated them-r Jblves; merely upon the account of religion ? Some enter into eompany for trade and profit: others, for want ©f bufinefs, have their clubs for claret. Neigb- bourhood joins fome, and religion others. But there is one oidy thing whicli gathers peM)le into feditious commotions, and that is oppreffion. You will fayj what, will you have people^ to meet at divine {(srxiccagain/^ i^ magiftrate swill? I anfwef; why, I pray againft his will? Is it not both' lawful and neceflary that they ihould meet ? Agai^fift his wilH do you fay ?■ That is what I complaia of. That is the very root of all the mifchief. Why are aflemblies. lefs fufferable in a church, than ia a theatre or market I Thofe that jaaeet there, are not either more vicious, ©r more turbulent,, thair thofe that? jsneet elfewherc The bufinefs in that is, that they are ill ufed, and tfeerefore- aht^ are not to, he fuffered. Take awaj. the partiality that is ufed towards? A LETTER CONCERNING TOI.ERATION, them in matters of common right; change the laws, take away the penalties unto which they are fubje even amongft Chriftians.. The Papijis and the Lai berans, though both of them profefe faith in Chriff,, and are therefore called. GhriAians, yet are not ,both of the fame religion : becaufe thefe acknowledge nothing but the Holy- Scriptures to be the rule and foundation., of their religion ; thofe take in aKo tiiaditions and the decrees of popes^, and of all thefe together make the rule of their religion. And thus the Chriftians of St. yaSn, as they are called, aridt the Chriftians of Geneva are ©f different religions : becaufe thefe alfo taka- 0nly the Scriptures -, and thofe,. I know not what traditions-,, for the rule of their religion. This being fettledi, it follows; Ftrji, That Rerefie ia a feparatibn made int ecclgfiaftical communion between, men. of the fame- religion, for fame opinions, BO way contained in the rule itfelf. And' Secmdly^ That amongft thofe who) acknowledge nothing but the Holy Scriptures to be their rule of faith, he— refie is a feparation. made in their Chriftian communion^, for. opinions not: contained in. the expr-efs words of Scripture. Now this feparation may.' be made in a twofold- manner. Firji.. When^the greater part, or, by the magiftxate's patronage, the ft'rongers- part, of the church feparates itfelf from others, by excluding them out of her- communion, becaufe they will not profefs their belief of certain opinions^ whidh are not to be found in the exprefs words of Scripture, For it is not the: paucity o£ thofe that are feparated, nor the authority of the -magiftrate, thate can make any man guilty of herelie. But he only is an heretic who divides-; the church into parts, introduces names and marks of diftindtioni and vd-- liuntarily makes a feparation becaufe of fueh opinions. Secmdlj;. When any one feparates himfelf from the communion of a' churchj becaufe that church? does not publicly profefs fomecertaia. opinions. which the Holy Scriptures do notexprefly teach. Botii thefe are heretics., becaufi they err in- fundamentals,, and: they errohjii^- mtely again^ kncmiiedge. For when they have determined the Holy Scriptures^ to be the only foundation of faith, they neverthelefs Jay down' certain pro— ppfitions asftindamental, which are notin. the Scripture; andbecaufe others; will not acknowledge thefe additional Opinions of theirs,/ nor build, upbm Aem as if they were neceffary and fundamental, they; therefore- make a fe— ' paration in the church? ; either by. withdrawing therafelves from the others^, or expelling the others from them. Nor dpea it fignify any thing for thensi tD fay that their confeffions and fymholes are agreeable, to- Seriptune, and to.> liie analogy of faith. For , if they be concaved in. the exprefs vword&ofi Scripture, there can be no queftioni about them ;. becaufe thofe- are; ac— Jbio'ddcdged by all Chriftians to he of divine ^nlpiration,. and therefore funr- ^ damentali. A LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION damental. But if they fay that the articles which they require to be pro- felTed, are confequences deduced from the Scripture; it is undoubtedly well done of them to believe a;nd profels fuch things as feem unto them fo agreeable to the rule of faith z but it would be very ill done to obtrude thofe things upon others, unto whom they do not feem to be the indubitable dodtrines of the Scripture. And to make a feparation for fuch things as thefe, which neither are nor can be fundamental, is to become.heretics. For I do not think there is any man arrived to that degree of madnefs, as that he dare give out his confequences and interpretations of Scripture as divine infpira- tions, and compare the articles of faith that he has framed according to his own fancy with the mthority of the Scripture, I know there are fome pro- pofitions fo evidently agreeable to Scripture, that no body can deny them to be drawn from thence-: but about thofe therefore there can be no difference. This only I fay, that however clearly we may think this or the other dodrine to be deduced from Scripture, we ought not therefore to impofe it upon others, as a necefTary article of faith, becaufe we believe it to be agreeable tp the rule of faith junlefs we would be content alfo that other dodtrines fJiGuld be impofed upon us in the fame manner; and that we fhould be com- pelled to receive; and profels all the different and contradidlory opinions of Lutherans, Calvinijis, Remonftrants, Anabaptijis, and other fedts, which the contrivers of fymbols, fyftems, and confeffions, are accuftomed to deliver un- to their followers as genuine and necefTary dedudtions from the Holy Scrip- ture. I cannot but wonder at the extravagant arrogance of thofe men who think that they themfelves can explain things necefTary to falvation moi'e clearly than the Holy Ghofl, the eternal and infinite wifdom of God. , , Thusmuch concerning )&^r^^; which word in common ufeis applied only to the dodlrinal part of religion. Let us now con^idtr fchifm, which is a crime near a-kin to it. For both thofe words feem unto me tp fignify znill-grounded feparation in ecclefiafitcal communion, made about things not neciffary. But fince ufe, which is the fupreme law in matter of language, has determined that he-r refie relates to errors in faith, and fchifm to thofe in worfhip or difcipline, we mufl confider them under that diflindtion. Schifm then, for the fame reafons that have already been alledged, is no-, thing elfe but a feparation made in the- communion of tlie church, upon ac-, count of foxnething in divine vs^orfhip, or ecclefiaftieal difcipline, that is not any necefTary part of it. Now nothing in worfhip or difcipline can be necefTary to Chriflian communion, but' what Chrift our legiflator, or the Apoflles, by infpiration of the Holy Spirit, have commanded in exprefs words. In a word : he that denies not any thing that the Holy Scriptures teach in exprefs words, nor makes a feparation upon occafion of any thing that is not manifeflly contained in the facred text ; however he may be liick-named by any fedt of Chriflians, and declared by fome, or all of them, to be utterly void gftrue Chriflianity; yet in deed and in truth this man cannot be either a heretic or fchifmatic. , Thefe things might have been explained more largely, and more advantage- oufly; but it is enough to havq hinted at them, thus briefly, to a perfon of your parts. A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION A SBCOJ^P tETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION TO THE AUTHOR OF THE ARGUMENT OF THE BETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION BRIEFLY CONSIDERED A^N© ANSWERED Sir, TCou mM pardon sme if J :take tjw ^m^ Ubosiy widi yow, that yoa Atewre done with tbie author of liie Letto: ^cosnceroasig Toleration j to eon- ^dfiT yxsur arguments, and soikayoiir to ihew you the oaiftal^es of thejn. F>CEf i^iiace you iiaye '£b plaanJy yieldesi up the iqueflioa to him, and do owa •that jj{4(? feverkm he ^ould diffiiade Chri^ans fi-oro^ i^f^ idtm-ly una^t. an4 iw^vptr is iring m» 'to .tt^br.ace that 4rMiJb fwhiab mi^ fm>e tbmi : I am not P. tt, ijj Wtfeoatafomedbopiesto jkearail spath you, to do that yourfelf, which you fay f^ 4s(the(0nlyiufla;^ajb!leaim of men '^ifferiiag about religion, even in liie ufe o£ *.\m£&^w&im^f3i&s,: iviz. ^aneft/^y mil tnipariially fo mei^ the whole ma.t-' *er, and thesrefojr "to cemofve -diat prejudice ^ich makes you yet feyour fome iremains of jperfecMtiom : pcom^aag jmyfelf that & ingenious a perfon will tither he .convinced lay ihe *rlith which jappeM-s fo Very clear and evident to jme J J-ifeopei tfeiqk ifit Jtihaft it ihould be focborn in all others, where it will be isquaUy Jsmjmft and/un^eafonabde j as Idoubt not but to-make it appear it will 4maY)oidai>iy be, ^wherever you will go about to ^pianifh men for want of confi- d^ration. ' lEort'^estrue way to.try fuch fpecuktions as thefe, is to fee how ibey will 3p^o«e when they are rseduced into-praiStice. The fiiJift thing you feem ilartjed at, in. the .author's letter, is the largenefe of the toleration be propofes : and you thimk itilcange.that he would nat •have fo much as ..a J'agan, M:oham}ned(m,sr'Jew,£xcludedfrom the cvail rights tofiheicammonwealtb, becaiife' sf Ms jndigion, p. i. We pray every day for itheir conversfipn, and I think it our duty fo to do : but it will, I fear, hardly fee ibelievjed that weprayin eaa-n^,if we exclude them from the other ordi- Hnary,and probable, means jOf iconverfionj .either .by ddving them from, of |j.erfecutifQg (them when they areamongil us. Force, you allow, is inapro- ipferito convert men to .any. rdl^ion. Toleration is but the removifiig that •ibfflse. So ■&at why cthofe(flaould>not be .toleEated as well as others, if you !HMi xthfiif =Gonverfi©a, I do pot .-fee. But-jou fay, It feems hard to conceive hem , 70 A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION kow the author of that luetter JhouU thinkto do any fem^ke to religion in general or to the Chrijiian religion, by recommending and perfuading fucb a toleration^ For how much foever it may tend to the advancement of trade and commerce^ f 'which fome feem toMace aboixe all ather.conjiderationsj I fie no reafon, from any experiment that ms been made, to expeSf thaf tru6 religion 'ufould be a gainer- by it i that it -mould be either the bett£r preferojed, the more widely propagated,, 1.2 or rendred any whit the more' fruitful in the lives of its profejfors by it. j^e- fofQ I come to_ your, dsiy^i\.\\£^,.- Whether true religion jwpuld be a gainer by fuch a toleration -, give me leave to take notice, that if, by other conjidera- tions, you mean, any thing tut relfgion, . your parenthelis is. wholly befide the- matter j and that if you do not know that the author of the Letter places. the> advancement of trad'e above religion, your infinuation is very iMicharitable; But^ I go on. ' T&ufie no-- reafon, you fay, from any experiment that has. been made, to ex-- peSi that', true religion would be a gainer by it. ' True religion and Chriftian Feligion are, Ifuppofe, to you and me, the fame thing. But of this:3K)u have an experiment in its firft appearance in the world, and feveral hundTeds of years after. It was then hti^r preferv'd, mere widely propagated, in propor- tion, and render' d more fruitful in the lives of its. prtfeffiiPSi than ever fince j though then Jews and Pagans were tolerated, and; more than, tolerated by the governments of thofe places where it grew up. I liope you do not ima- gine the Chriftian religion has loffc any of its firft beauty, force, or reafonable" liefs, by having been almoft two thoufand years, in the vrorld- j that you &ould fear it feould be lefs, able now to fhift for itfelf, without the help of fbrcev I doisbt' not but you look upon it ftiU to.be the power andwifdom of' God for- our fohatioh ', and? therefore cannot- fufpcd: it lefs capable to prevail now, by it's own truth and light, than it did in the firft ages of the churchy, when poor contemptible men, wkhout authority, or the countenance of au- ttiority, had alone the care of ife; This, as I tak&it, has been made ufe of by- Chriftians. generally, and by fome- of our church in particular, as. an argu* aient fbr tiie truth of the- Chriftian.. religion, j that it grew and fpread, and; prevailed^ without any aid fromi force, or the affiftance of the powers in be- ing-. Aad if it be a mark of the true religion, that it will prevail by its owa %ht and ftrength, but that falfe- Eeligions will- not, but have need of forc»: and foreigfi helps to ftapport them* nothing certainly can be more for the- advantage of true religion, than to take away compulfion^ every^ where. And- therefore it is no more hardtoxonceive how the author of the Letter Jhould think todoferinee ts religion in general, or to the Cir^ian religion, than it is hard to.^ conceive that he fliould; think there is a true religion, and that the Chriftiani Eeligion^i^i&i which its profeffors» have always owned not to needforce, and feav*^ urged: that as. a good argument to.prove the truth of ifc The inventions:-: of p^n. in, religion neqd theforcea Jittlc; |e^Qft4t!iS.c.oijfifle§.,Q£ England,, I dot not. doubt^but you. will eafily imagine? A SECOND LETTER eoiSTCERNING TOLERATIdN tiiat if in Italy, Sfain, Portugal, etc. the inquifitlon ; and in France theif dragooning -, and in other parts thofe feverities that are ufed to keep or force men to the national religion, were taken away j and inftead thereof the tole- ration propofed by the author were fet up, the true religion would be a gainer by it. The author of the Letter fays, 'truth imll do well enough, if Jhe were once left to Jhift for herfelf Shefeldom bath received^ and he fears never will receive much qfft/iance Jrom the fower ^ great men, to whom Jhe is but rarely known, and more rsrely welcome. Errors indeed prevail, by the af^Jlance offo~ reign and borrowed fuccours. 'Truth makes way into our underjianding, by her own light, an-d is but the weaker for any borrowedforce that violence can add to her. Thefe words of his, how hardfoever they mayfeem to you, may help you to conceive how he Jhould think to do fervice to true religion, by recommend- ing and perfuadingfuch a 'Toleration as he propofed. And now, pray tell me yourfelf, whether you do not think true religion would be a gainer by it^ if fuch a toleration eftablifhed. there, would permit the dodtrine of the church. •oi England to be freely preached, and its wodJiip fet up, in anyPopifh, Mo- hammedan, or Pagan country ? If you do not, you have a very ill opinion of the religion of the chyxrckoi England, and muft own that it can only be propagated and fupported by force. If you think it would gain in thofe countries, by fuch a toleration, you are then of the author's mind, and do not find it fo hard to conceive how the recommending fuch a toleration, might do fervice to that which you think true religion. But if you allow fuch a toleration ufeful to tiTith' in • other countries, you muft find fomething very peculiar in the air, that muft make it lefs ufeful to truth in England. And it will favour of much partiality, and be too abfurd, I fear, for you to own, that toleration will be advantageous to true religion all the World over, except only in this ifland ; though, I much fufpedt,- this, as abfard as it is,- lies at the bottom ', and you .build all you fay, upon this lurking fuppofition, that the national religion. . now in England, backed by the public authority of the law, is the oftly true religion, and therefore no other is to be tolerated. Which being a fup- pofition equally unavoidable, and, equally juft in other countries, unlefs we can imagine that every where but in England men believe what at the fames time they think to be a lie, will in other places exclude toleration, and thereby hinder truth from the means of propagating itfelf. What the fruits of Toleration are, which in the next words you complain do remain Jlill atnong us, and which you fay, give no encouragement to hope for any advantages from it ; what fruits, I fay, thefe are, or whether they are owing to the want or widenefs of Toleration among us, we {hall then be able to judge, when you tell us what they are. In the mean time I will boldly fay, that if the magiftrates will feverely and impartially fet themfelves agaihft vice, in whomfoever it is found ; and leave men to their own con- fciences, in their articles of faith, and ways of worfliip ; true religion will be J^read wider, and be more fruitful in the lives of its prof ejfors, than ever hither- to it has been, by the impofition of creeds and ceremonies. You You tell us, thatjfo ;^^» tan faU ^ finding the nv^ 6f plimfdk,- M4f> P. 7 feeki it ds he tugbt. I vironder you had riot taken riotkfe, in the places yoa. quote fot this^, how tve are dire of the doBrine whether it ie of God. And, Pfalm xxv. 9, 12, 14, which are alfo quoted by you, fell u^, I'he meek 'MU he guide in judgment, arid the- rneek -will be teach his "Way, What than is he thAtfeareth the Lord, hi^Jh&ll h&- ieach in the %)dy thcit he pall chufe, 'The feCret of the Lord is wkh thtrhi thai fear hiin, and he ^i^Jhew them his co'venant. So that thefe placesj if they prove what you cite iberia for, that no iniin ca'k foH of fikding the way of fai" vdtion, whofeeks it as he oUght ; they do alfo prOve, that a godd^liie is the- only Way to feek as we ©u'ght, arid that therefore the iriagifttatesfc, i-f they- would put men lifron feeking the Way of falvation as they ought, Sioald, hf, their laWS and penalties, force therii tO a good life j a good converfation be- ing the readieft and fureft way to a right uriderftdftdinig. PuriiflMieM* aridt feverities thus applied, we ate fufe, are both pra(fticsble, juft, and ufefdJ,^ How {juni£htfients Will prove ift the ^ky, ytoo contend, for. We fhii^.ifee whehi We coilie to confidfir it. Having given us thefe broad ittarks of your goodvwilt to TGSei»atiow, you: tell us, 'T!is not jtu)r dtjign to argue againjl it, but oHly H) inquire whlxtdur an*- P. 3 thor offers for the ^roof of his affertion. And theli yoil give us tiiis: lehemeoit his argument. 1 . Inhere is but one liMy of fahation, 6r but ont tntS: religion. 2. No tnan can. be faved by this religion, iHho- does, ntt beliivt it to b'e th6; true religion. 3. This belief is. to be ■brought in m&n hyrfedfoA and argument, no^.%y caatvari^ farce and cohipulfion. 4. Therefore all fttcb force isMtterly of no ufe forthe fnontothtg t^tie religioitl, and the falvation of fouls. 5. And therefore no body can ha^e any right to ufi'aiiy fsr.ce or t^kipn^o^^^ for the bringihg men to the true religion. • And yott tefl Mt, the niihok frength of ^hot. that Letter urged for- the purpofe of it, Bes in this argument, Whidi- 1 riiinfc you have no more^- i-eafon to fay, than if you (hould tell us., that only o;ie beam of a houfe hadi' . any^ftrength in it, wheri there are fevefal others that woul^ fupport the: building, were that gone. The purpofe of the Letter is plainly to defend Tderation, exempt^from all; force ; efpecially civil forcBj or the force of the magiftfate. Now if it be %. true conk({\x^ncc that men mufl be tolemtdj, if magi^rntes have no commifjiort, nr authority to punijh them for matters of religion-, t^en the anlyjirength of that letter lies mt in the Unfitnefs of f dree to. convince i^ensknderftmding. Sed: Letter, p. 35. Again ; if it be trUe -^iit magijirates being as liabk to- error as- the rtfi o^ mankind, their ^fngff^ farce in matters of religion,, ^mdd not at till ad'aam^.^ tkjakaiim ofmankkd^ HSmU'g that even, fcjtcc coul^: woik wpon them^ • ■ ssM A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION 73 and magiftrates had authority to ufe It in religion, then the argument you mention is not the only one in that Letteft of firength to prove the necejfity of toleration. See Letter, p. 36. For the argument of the unfitnefs of force to convince mens minds being quite taken away, either of the other would be a ftrong proof for toleration. But let us confider the argument as you have put it. T!he twofrjl propoftions, you fay, you agree to. As to the third, you grant P. 4 that force is' very improper to be ufed to induce the mind to ajfent to any truth. But yet you deny, that force is utterly ufelefs for the promoting true religion, and the fahation of mens fouls ', which you call the author's fourth propofi- tion J but indeed that is not the author's fourth propofition, or any propo- fition of his, to be found in the pages you quote, or any where elfe in the whole Letter, either in thofe terms, or in the fenfe you take it. In page 36, which you quote, the author is fhewing that the magiftrate has no power, that is not right, to make ufe of force in matters of religion, for the falva- tion of mens fouls, And the reafon he gives for it there, is, becaufe force has no efficacy to convince mens minds ; and that without a full perfuafion of the mind, the profeffion of the true religion itfelf is not acceptable to God. Upon this ground, fays he, I affirm that the mdgifirates poiner extends not to the eJiabliJJoing any articles of faith, or forms of nvorjhip, by the force of his laws. For laws are of no force at all without penalties j and penalties in this cafe are ahfolutely impertinent, becaufe they are not proper to convince the mind. And fo again, p. 48, which is the otner place you quote, the author fays ; . Whatfoever may be doubted in religion, yet this at leaji is certain ; that no religion which 1. believe not to be true, can be either true, or profitable unto me. In vain therefore do princes compel their fubjeiis to come into their church- com- munion, under the pretence offaving their fouls. And more to this purpofe; But in neither of thofe paflages, nor any where elfe, that I remember, does the author fay that it is impoffible that force fhould any way, at any time, upon any perfon, by any accident, be ufeful towards the promoting of true religion, and the falvation of fouls ; for that is it which you mean by utterly of no ufe. He does not deny that there is any thing which God in his good- nefs doe& not, or may not, Ibmetimes gracioufly make ufe of, towards the falvation of mens fouls, as our Saviour did of clay and fpittle to cure blind- nefs, and that fo, force alfo may be fometimes ufeful. But that which he denies, and you grant, is, that force has any proper efficacy to enlighten the underflanding, or produce belief. And from thence he infers, that there- fore the magiflrate cannot lawfully compel men in matters of religion. This is what the author fays, and what I imagine will always hold true, whatever you or any one can fay or think to the contrary. That which you fay is. Force indireSlly, and at a difiance may do fomefer-V. 5 vice. What you mean by doing fervice at a difiance, towards the bring- ing men to falvation, or to embrace the truth, I confefs I do not underfland j unlefs perhaps it be what others, in propriety of fpeech, call by accident. But be it what it will, it is fuch a fervice as cannot be afcribed to the diredt and proper efficacy of force. And fo, fay you, Force, indireSfly, and at a difiance, L Jnoy 74 A SEGGNB LETTER CONCERHIN<5 TpfcERATIOIir tn^y ^ fimfirvlce. I grant it : ^ake your beO^ of it. What Aq^^ ^^"^^ elude from whence, to your purpofe? That therefoFg the magiftrate m^ make ufe pf it ? Th^ I ideny, that fuch an fW/r^A k fervmablg tmardi the- Jdkation of mens fouls. I doubt not but Gpd has made fome, or all of thefe^ the'occafaons of good to many njen. But wiU you therefore infer, that th;e magiftrate may take ajjray a roan's honpur, or e||^tp, or liberty, fof the h\- vation of his foul ; or torment hi"^ W thi?? that hf may be happy in thf other world ? What is otherwife unlawful in itfelf, as it certainly is to pur nifh a man without 4 faujt, cap never be made Igwfrtl by fprjii good thst, in^ 'dire5Hy, and at a difiapce^ or if ypu pleaiJi, indireSlly and by accident, may- follow from it. Running a man through may fave hi§ life, as it has done by chance, opening a lurking impofthume. But will you fay therefore, that this is lawful, juftifiable chirurgery ? The gal)ies, it is Uke, might reduce many a vain, Ipofe Proteftant to repentancf , fobriety of thought, and a tru» fenfe of religion : and the tornients they fufFered in the late perfecution, might mal^e feveral confi,der the pains of hel}, and put ^ due e.ftimate of va- pity and contempt on all things of tbijS world. But will you iay, because thofe punilhrnents might, indirectly, and at a dijiance, ferve to the falvatioa ef mens fouls, that therefore the king oi France had right and aythority tO' make ufe of th^nii ? If your indire^ a^id a.t a diftance ferviceablenefs, may authorize the magiftrate to ufe force in religion, all the cruelties ufed by the Heathens againft Chriftians, by Papifts againft PEp^,ftants, and all the per^ fecuti,ng of Chriftians one amongft another, are all juflifiable. But what if I flaould tell you now of other eiFed:s, contrary effects, that punifhmentg in Kjatters of religion may produce j a^d fo may ferve to keep men from the truth 2Si^ from fahatipn § What then will become of your ind?f^^) and at a di/fance ufefulnefs ? For in all plea,s fpjr any thing becaufe of its ufefulnefs, it is nPt enough to fay as you dp, an^ is the utmoft that can; P. 5 be faid for it, that it mfiy be ferviceable: butitmijftbe conlidered not only what it may, but what it is likely to produce: and ^e greater good or harm like to come from it, ought to determine of the ufe of it. To flievr you what effeds one may exped: from force, of what tfefulnefs it is to brinm men to embrace the truth, be pleafed to read what you yoijrfelf have writ. P. 13 I cannot but remark, fay you, that thfe m,ethods. (viz. depriving men of their ejiates, corporal punipments,Jlarving and tormenting thm in frifonst andinth& end' even taking away their lives^, to make them ChriJiiansJ arefo very impropm in refpeSi to the dfign of them, thqf they ufually produce the quite contrary dB^iSi^ For nphereas all the ufe which force can have for the advancing true rdigi^n^' andthefalvationoffouk, is fas has already been Jhemedf by difpofing men ta<. fubmit to inJlruSlion, and to give afyiv hearing to th reafons which are offer £ for the enlightning their min4s, middifcovering the truth to them; thefe cruelties have tk, misfortune to be commQn^jQok'd u^on as fs juji a^r^judice againft anyt. reEgiom fett^Un fb'a't ufes theM, as fiiltkei k needlefs to look any farther into it; and to i-e)^t ffi^fi to rejeil it, as both fatfe and detejl able, "joithout ever •Oouchfafing to' SO^dSf the i-atioMl grouhds and thOtives of it. this effeSi they feldotnfail to 'SDOfk upon the fuferers of ihwt: Atid as to the fpeSlators, if they be not be- fi^i^M^ weM injiruiied in thofe ghUfidi afid friotiides, they will he much tempted tikg^tiSife,- not ordy to entertain the fd^e opinion offuch d teligiofi, but withal tojidge Miicd fnore favourably of th'ctt of the fufferers; ivho, they iDill be apt ^ to tMfik,- ^oicld not expofe themfehes tofuch extremities , which they niight avoid by cofripliarici, if they Were not throughly fatisfied of the jujlice of their cdufe. Here then you allow th^t taking a'uoay mens eftatgs, or liberty, and corporal pmijhments, ai'e apt to drive aA)yay both fuffererf ^cAd fpeSfators from the re- llgioft that makes ufe of them, rather than to it. And fo thefe you renounce. Now if you give up punifhments of a man, in hife perfon, liberty, and eftate, r think we need not ftand w^ith you, for any other puriilhmfents may be"^ made ufe of. But, by what foUoWs, it feerns you fhelter yoiirfelf lihder the nariie of feverities. For nioderate punijhments, as^ ydu call them in another place, you think may be ferviceabk ; indireStly, and at a diflanceferviceable, to bring nien to the truth. And' I fay, ahy fort of punifhmerits diiproportioned to the offence, or where there is no fault at all, will' always hejevefity, un- jufitflt^k feverity, ahd will be thought fo by they«^^r^rj- and by-fanders', afid fo'will iifually produce the eff ell's you have mentioned, cofitrary to the de- lign they are ufed for. Not to profefs the national faith, vv^hilft one believes it riot tb be true ; not to enter into church-comniunion with the magiilrate, aS long as one judges the doflrrine there profefTed to bd erroneous, or the' worfhip not fuch as God has either prefcribed, or will accept; this yoii al- low, and all the world With ybu mufl allo#, not to be a fault. But yet you would ha\^e men puniflied for not being of the national religiori ; that is, as you ydilrfelf confefs, for no fault at all. Whether this be not feverity, nay ib open and avowed injuftice, that it will give rhen a juji prejudice againjl the'?. 14 religion that ufes it; and produce all thofe ill effeds ybu there mention, I leave ybli to confider. So that the nariie oi feverities, in oppofitibn to the moderate punijhments youfpeak for, carl do" ybu nO fervice at all. For where" therfe is no fault, there cah be no moderate punijhment : all puriifhmenT is im- riibderate, where there is no fault to be punilhed. But of yoDr moderate pu-^ «it/^i^^«iP we fhall haVe occafion' to fpeak rribfein' ariother place. It fuffices here to have fhewn, that, whatever punifliments you ufe, they are as likely ' to'driv^e men from the religion that ufes thern, as tb bring thein to the truth -, arid much more likely ; as we fh all fde before vs'^e have done : arid'ib, by ybur oAvtt coftfeflioni they are nottb be ufed. One thingari thi§ paflage of the author, it'feems, app'e'ars abfurd to you ; that he fHould fay, ihat to take a^ay fhehl lives, to rhake 'them Chrijlians, was IfM an ill way of expfejjing adeflgn of their fahation. I grant'therc" is' great ab'ftjrdity fonirewhere iri thecafe. But if i^ in the pradlice of thofe who, per- fecuting flleh-uiidfeH a pretence "of /rm^/«^ thcm'to falvation, fiiffer the tem- per of their good-will to betray itfelf, in taking away_ their lives. And ^atever'abfuTditiertherefbe in-thi§' way of prdCeeding, there is none in the' ' •" L 2 author's / 76 A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION author's ^yay of gxprefling it ; as you would more plainly have feen, i£ you hiad looked into the Latin original, where the words are, Ftfa denique ipfa privant, utfideles, utfahifiant.p.^. which though more literally, might be thus rendered. To bring them to the faith and to fahation ; yet the tranflator is not to be blamed, if he chofe to exprefs the fenfe of the author, in words that very lively reprefented the extreme abfurdity they are guilty of, who under pretence of zeal for the falvation of fouls, proceed to the taking away their lives. An example whereof we have in a neighbouring country,-' where the prince declares he will have all his diflenting fubjedts faved, and purfuant thereunto has taken away the lives of many of them. For thither at laft perfecution muft come : as I fear, notwithftanding your talk of moderate pu- ^3 nijhmenfs, you yourfelf intimate in thefe words ; Not that I think the fword is to be ujhd in this bufinefs, (as I have fufficiently declared already) butbecaufe all coaSiive power refohes at lafi into the fword ; Jince all (1 do not fay j that •will not be reformed. in this matter by leffer penalties, but J that refufe tofubmit to leffer penalties, muft at laji fall under the ftroke of it. In which words, if you mean any thing to the bufinefs in hand, you feem to have a -re- ierve for greater punifliments, when leffer are not fufficient to bring men to p be convinced. But let that pafs. ' ^ You fay. If force be ufed, not inftead of reafon and arguments, that is, not to convince by its own proper efficacy, which it cannot do, etc. I think thofe who rnake laws, and ufe force, to bring men to church-conformity in reli- gion, feek only the compliance, but concern themfelves not for the con- vidion of thofe they punifh ; and forever ufe force to convince. For, pray tell me; when any diffenter conforms, and enters into the church-commu- nion, is he ever examined to fee whether he does it upon reafon, andcon- vidtion, and fuch grounds as would become a Chriftian concerned for reli- gion ? If perfecution, as is pretended, were for the falvation of mens fouls, this would be done ; and men not driven to take the facrahient to keep their places, or to obtain licences to fell ale, for fo low have thefe holy things been proftituted, who perhaps knew nothing of its inftitution ; and con- iidered no other ufe of it but the fecuring fome poor fecular advantage, which without taking of it they Ihould have loft. So that this exception of yours, of the «/^ of force, infiead of arguments, to convince men, I think is needlefs ; thofe who ufe it, not being, that ever I heard, concerned that men fhould be convinced. ^ But you go on in telling us your way of ufing force, only to bring men tSf confder thofe reafqns and arguments, which are proper and fufficient to convince them; but which, without being forced, they would not confider. And, fay you, who can deny but that, indireSily, and at a diflance, it does fame fervice, towards bringing men to embrace that truth, which either through negligence they would never acquaint themfelves with, or through prejudice they would reie& and condemn unheard f Whether this way of puniftiment is like to increafe or remove prejudice, we have already feen. And what that truth ^s, which you can pofitively fay, any man, without being farced by puni/hment, would through carelefsnefs never acquaint bimfelf withy I defire you to name. Some are A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION are called at the third, fome at the ninth, and fome at the eleventh hour. And whenever they are called, they embrace all the truth neceffary to falva- tion. But thefe flips may be forgiven, amongft fo many grofs and palpable miftakes, as appear to me all through your difcourfe. For example : you tell us that Force ufed to bring men to conjideri does indireSily, and at a dijlance, fomefervice. Here now you walk in the dark, and endeavour to cover your- felf with obfcurity, by omitting two neceffary parts. As, firft, who muft ufe this force : which, though you tell us not here, yet by other parts of your treatife it is plain you mean the magiftrate. And, fecondly, you omit to fey upon whom it muft be ufed, who, it is muft be puniftied : and thofe, if you fay any thing to your purpofe, muft be dijfenters from the national reli- gion, thofe who come not into church-communion with the magiftrate. And then, you r propofition, in fair plain terms, will ftand thus. If the magijirate fuhijh diJJ'enters, only to bring them to conjider thofe reafonsand arguments which are proper to convince them ; who can deny but that indireSily, and at a dijiance, it may dofervice, etc. towards bringing men to embrace that truth which other- wife they would never be acquainted with?' etc. In which propofition, I. There is fomething imprad:icafele. 2. Something unjuft. And, 3. What- ever efficacy there is in force, your way applied, to bring men to confider and be convinced, it makes againft you. 1 . It is imprafticahle to punifti dijfenters, as dijfenters, only to make them confider. For if you pxinifh them as diffenters, as certainly you do, if you punifh them alone, and them all without exception, you punifti them for not being of the national religion. And to punifti a man for not being of the national religion, is not to punifti him only to make him confider ; unlefs not to be of the national religion, and not to conjider, be the fanie thing. But you will fay, the deiign is only to make diffenters confider; and therefore they may be puniftied only to make them confider. To this I reply j it is impoffible you ftiould punifti one with a defign only to make him confider, whom you punilh for fomething elfe befides want of confideration ; or if you punifh him whether he confider or no; as you do, if you lay penalties on diffenters in general. If you fhould make a law to punifh all ftammerers; could any one believe you, if you faid it was defigned only to make them leave fwear- ing ? Would not every one fee' it was imj>offible that punifliment fhould be only againft fwearing, when all ftammerers were under the penalty ? Such a propofal as this, is in itfelf, at firft fight, monftroufly abfurd. But you miift thank yourfelf for it. For to lay penalties upon ftammerers, only to make them not fwear, is not more abfurd and impoffible than it is to lay penalties upon diffenters only to make them confider. 2. To.punifh men out of the communion of the national church, to make them conjider, is unjuft. They are punifhed beeaufe out of the national church : and they are out of the national church,' beeaufe they are not yet convinced. Their ftanding out therefore in this ftate, whilft they are not convinced, not fatisfied in their minds,- is no fault ; and therefore cannot juftly be punifhed. But your method is, Punijh themi to make them confider _ fuck reafons and arguments as are proper to convince them. Which is juft fuch juftice. tS. 4 aECONP LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATItDN juftk^, as it- woul4 bse for tbe naagifeafee to'psmifli you for not he'tng a Car- tefian^ only to brm§ ym^to sar^esr fwh r^e^ns . and^ ar^imnts as are pr(^t. affdJ0^ient. tg>. convince pu: when it is poffibki i. TbaC you being fatif^' i^ot" tlie bH^tfc-ofyoqr own dpiniaa in pfaiilofophy,, did not judge it wortto ■whiJe to Q no reafo^ianJ ar^ments. proper andfi^»ient> to csnmnce you. * 3. Whatever inMreB efficacy them be in feffer,. applied by the: EftagaftratB* ypur way, it inakes againft you. Force icfod by theniag^ate to bring men W conjider thofe re^^ns\ and- arguments, •which are proper and Jkficm& tcr con'oinc^ them, bu^iiohich 'without being forced^ tJ^ey would not eca^^r;. may<, fay you,; be fervieeabk in^ireMly, ami at a dijlance, tornMAe- men emkrmei the' truth tuhic^ mujl fave them-.. A^ithus,. fay I, it may bej/fa^mms:^ to bring men to recein^e' and imhrace falfliood, which will deftroy therm So that force and punifhw ment, by your own eonfeffion, not being able dire«aiyi hj'iXj^prvper&ffimBy^^ to do men any good, in reference, to their future eftate; though irbe fu*©' dJre/dHy to do tbeqi: harm^ in reference to their prefeut condition here:; and i_Iidire much harm as good ; I defire to know whafc ther t^efiik^- is which fb mtich' reGom-mends it^ even to a degree. that you pretend ;itnieeidixd- and neCeflkry. ^kd you fome new untried chymical preparation^ that was as pTopentO kilii a« to fave an infirm man> of whofe life 1 hope; you would not-.be' more ten^ der than of a weak brother's foul, would you: give it your child^ or try it iipon your friend, or recommend it to the- world' for its rare ufefulnefs ? L- deal very favoumbly with you, when Lfiy as proper to kill asjta fave. For' force, in your indireS} way* of the magiftrate's appiying it tomahemen con/idsf thofe argu'mnts that otherwifextheyt wmild' not; tot^ make them kndan ear to' tpo/e ^hot&U .them: th^y hai^e tti^aiea, their tsxayi and (^'er to Jh&w them the' r/ight', I fay, in this way, force, is much? more. proper, and likely; to make: men receive and; imbrace error than; the truthi I. Beeaufe men out of the right way. are as apt, I think I may iay apter;- to ufe force, than others. For truth, I mean the truth, of the Gofpel, which is that of the true religion, is mild, andr gentle; and. meek, andi apter to ufe prayers and intreaties, than:force, to gain a hearingi p, 16 2. Becaufe the magiftrates of the" worlds . or the civil fovereignt, as yott« think \h more proper tocalLthem, being few of them in.the right w^ay -, not: one often, take which fide you wilU perhaps yomwilL grant not one of an/ hundred, being of the true religion.; it is liktly ■ ymarindir^^: way of ujin^i of force \^Q\!\d^Qi an hundred, oi- at:leail:;ten times as much harm as good : efpecially if you confider, that as the magiftrate will certainly ufe it to forcei men to' hearken to xbt prop^r'minifers of hisrel^oni.. let'it be what it will; - fo you having fet no .time, nor bounds, to this confiderationof arguments^ and reafons, ihort of being convinced ; you, underranother.pretence, putin— to the magiftrate's hands; as much power to; force, men to his religicm; as any the openeft- perfecutor^. can pretend to; . Far what difference^ I .befcech yoa^ , between A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION ^^ foetwe^jj ptiniiJtiBg yon to bring you to mafe, and punilhing you to confider tk^fe rmfins and argwmsfy wisici) are prsfer andfufficient to convince you that you ought to go to mais ? For tUl you are brought to confider reafins and ar- guments prvp^r and Juffimnt ta convince you; that is, till yau are convinced j you are punisfhed oa. If you reply, you nrveant rmfins and arguments proper md fiifficimt to conmnce them of the truth. I " anfwer, if you meant fOi why did you not (ay fo ? But if you had, it would in this cafe do you little fervice* For the mafs, in France., is as much fuppofed the truth, as the V^W^ here. And your way of applying force will as much promote popery in France, is proteftantifin in England. And fo you fee how ffryjceaWe it is to make men receive and embrace the truth that muji favt tiem. However you tell us, in the fame page, that if force fo applied, as is ahonie-^ P. 5 mentioned, may in fuch fort as has been faid, i. e. indireBly, and at a dijiance, ki fet^^tckbh to bring men to receive and imhrace truth, you think itfufficient to fii^W the ufefulmfs -of it in religion: where I fhall obferve, i. Th'at this y^fuln^s, amounts to no more but this, that it is not irapofible but that it may be i^ful. And fuch a yffulnefs one cannot deny to auricular confef- lion, doing of penance, going of a pilgrimage to fome iaint, and what not. Yet our cburch does not think fit to ufe tbem : Though it cannot be denied, but they may haye fome of your indireSi, and at a dijiance ufefulnefs ; that is, perhaps may do fome fervice, iindiredly, and by accident. 2. Force, your way applied, as it may be ufeful, fo alfo it may be ufe- lefs. For, i . Where the law punishes di^nters, without telling them it is to makp them confider, they may through ignorance and overiight ne- . gie£t to do it, and fo your force proves ufelefs. ' 2. Som^e diflenters may hav^ cojiiidered, already, and then force imployed tfpon them muft needs be wfelefi i unlefs you can think it ufcfut to puflifii a man to make him do' thag which he has done already. 3. God has not diredied it : and therefore we have no $s&ibn to expedt he fibould make it fuccefsful. 3, It may be hurtful : riay it is likely to prove more burtfid than ufofuL 1. Becaijfe to punifli men for that, which it is vifible eannofi be known; whether they have performed or no, is fo palpable an injuftice, that it is; likelier to give them an averfion to the perfons, and religion that ufos it, than to bring them to it. 2. Becaufe the greateft part of mankind, being not ^ble to difcern betwixt truth and fallhood, that depend upon long and xnd.j\yf proofs, and remote confequencesj nor have ability eijough to difcove^ the felfe grounds, and refiftAe captious an:d fallacious arguments of learned mera verfed in controverfies ; are fo much more expofed, by the force which isi ttfed t'O make them hearken^ to^the mformati(m and'inf'r&Bkn of men appomtsd to> it by the magiftrate, or thofe of his reli^on, to be led into falfibood and error, than they are likely, this way to be brought ta hn brace t hi truth that mufifave themn by how much the natibaal religions of the world are, be- yond comparifon, more of them falfe or erroneous, than fuch as have God for their author, and truth for their ftandard. And that leekiog and ex- amining, without the i|)e!cial grace' of you can f^y for, your political punifhments : but yet we muft conclude that God thinks them apt ufeful now ; unlefs we will fay, that which without impiety, cannot be /aid,,, that the wife and benign Difpofer and' Governor of all things does not now ufe all ufeful means fir promoting bis- own honour in the world, and the good of fouls. I think this confequence will hold, as well as what you draw in near-the fame words. - , Let us not therefore be more wife than our Maker, in that ftupendious and fupernatural yvork of our falvation. The Scripture, that reveals it to us, contains all that we can know, or do, in order to it : and where that is filent, it is in lis prefumption to direct. When you can fliew any commif- iion in Scripture, for the ufe of force to compel men to hear, any more than to imbrace the doftrine of others that differ from them, we {hall have rea- forf to' fubmit tq it, and the magiftrate have fome ground to fet up this new way of perfecution. But till then, it will be fit for us to obey that precept of the- Gofpel, which bids us take heed what we hear,- Mark iv, 24. So that hearing is not always fo ufeful as you fuppofe. If it had, we fhould never have had fo direft a caution againft it. It is not any imaginary ufefulnefs, you can fuppofe, which can make that a puniihable crime^ which the ma- giftrate was never authorized to meddle with. Go and teach all nations j was a commiflion of our Saviour's : but there was not added to it,, puni-fli thofe that will not hear and confider what you fay. No, but if they will not receive you, Jhake off the duji of your feet ; leave them, and apply yourfelves to fome others. 'And St. Paul knew -no other means to make men hear, but the preaching of the Gofpel ; as will appear to any One who will read Romans x, 14, etc. Faith comet h by hearing, arid -hearing by the word of God. You go on, and in favour of your \i€iovt6. force you tell us that it is not P. 6 only ujeful but needful. And here, after having at large, in the four following pages, fet oiit the negligence or averfion, or other hinderances that keep men from examining., with that application andfreedom of judgment they Jhould, th^ grounds upon vs^hich they take upand peifjl in their religion, you P. 10 come to conclude force neceflary. Your words are : If men are generalh averfe to a due conf deration of things, where they are mofi concerned to ufe it > if they ufually take up their religion without examining it as they ought, and then grow fo opinionative and fo fif in their prejudice, that neither the gentleji ad- monitions, nor the mofi earneji, intreaties, pall ever prevail with them after-^ wards to do it ; what means is there left, befides the grace of God, to reduce: thofe of them that are got into a wrong isoay, but to lay thorns and briars in it f That f nee they are deaf to all perfuafons, the meafnefs they meet with may at leaf put them to afiand, and incline them to lend an ear to thofe who tell them they have mifiaken their way, and offer to fh'ew them the right way. What means is- there left, fay you^, but force. What to do ? To reduce men,. ivho are out of it, into the right way. So, you tell us here. And to that, I fay, there is other means befides force ; that which was appointed and made ufe of from the beginning, the preaching of the GofpeL A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION 83 But, fay you, to make them hear, to make them confider, to make them ex^ amine, there is no other means but funijhment ; and therefore it is necejjary. I aftfwer. 1. What if God, for reasons beft known to himfelf, would not have men Compelled to hear ; but thought the good tidings of falvation, and the protpofals of life and death, means and inducements ^enough to make them hear, and confider, now as well "as heretofore ? Then your means, your punijhments, are not neceffary. What if God would have men left to their freedom in this point, if they Will hfear, or if they will forbear, will you Conftrain them ? Thus we are fure he did with his own people : and this when they were in captivity, EiZek. xi, 5, 7. And it is very like were ill treated for being of a different religion from the national, and fo were pu- nifhed as difTenters. Yet then ^od expected not that thofe punifliments fhould force them to hearken more than at other times : as appears by 'Ezek. HI, 2. And this alfo is the rnethod of the Gofpel. We are ambaffa^ dors for Chrifi ; as if God did befeech by us, nee pray in Chriji'sjlead, fays St. Paul, II Cor. v, 20. If God had thought it neceffary to have men punifhed to make them give ear, he could have called magiftrates to be fpreaders and minifters of the Gofpel, as well as poor fifhermen, or Paul a perfecutor, who yet wanted not power to punifli where punifliment was neceffary, as is eviderit in Ananias afid Sapphira, and thp inceftubus Corinthian, 2. What if God, forefeeing this force would be in the hands of men as pajjionate, as humourfome, as liable to prejudice and error as the reft of their brethren, did not think it a proper means to bring men into the right 'may ? 3. What if there be other means ? Then yours ceafes to be neceffary, upon the account that there is no means left. For you yourfelf allow. That the grace of God is another means. And I fuppofe you will not deny it to be both a proper and fufficient means -, and which is more, the only means ; fuch means as can work by itfelf, and without whicl* all the force in the' world can do nothing. God alone can open the ear that it may hear, and open the heart that it may underftand: and this he does' in his own good time, and to whom he is gracioufly pleafe'd ; but not according to the will and fancy of man, when he thinks fit, by punifhments, to compel his bre- thren. If God has pronounced againft any perfon or people, what he did againft the Jews, flf vi, 10.) Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, andjhut their eyes ', left they fee with their eyes, and hear with their earsf and under fiand with their hearts, and convert., and be healed: will all the force you can ufe, be a means to make them hear and underftand, and be converted ? But, Sir, to refurn to your argument j you fee no other means left ('taking the world as we now find it)' to make men "throughly and impartially examine a religion, which they imbraced upon fuch iriaucements as ought to have no fway at all in the matter, and withdittk or no examination of the proper grounds of it. And thence you conclude tj^e ufe of force, by the magiftrate upon dif- fenters, neceffary. And, I faj^, I fee no other meatis left (taking the world as we now find it, wherein the magiftrates never lay penalties, for matters of M 2 ^ religion, I A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION religion, upon thofe of their own church, nor is it to be cxpedted they ever fliouldj) to make men of the national church, any where, throughly and im- partially examine a religion, which they imbraced uponfuch inducements, as ought to have nofway at all in the matter, and therefore with little or no examination of the proper grounds of it. And therefore, I conclude the ufe of force by diflenters upon conformifts neceffary. I appeal to the world, whether this be not as juft and natural a conclufion as yours. Though, if you will have my opinion, I think the more genuine confequence is, that force, to make men examine matters of religion, is not neceflary at all. But you may take which of thefe confequences you pleafe. Both of them, I am fure, you cannot avoid. It is not for you and me, out of an imagination that they may be ufeful,, or are necejfary, to prescribe means in the-gr®^ and myfterious work of falvation, other than what God himfelf has direded. God has ap^ pointed force as ufeful and neeeffary, and therefore it is to be ufed \ is a way of arguing, becoming the ignorance and humility of poor, creatures. But I think force ufeful or neeeffary, and therefore it is to be ufed j has, methinks, a little too much prefumption in it. You aik, What means elfe is there left ?. None,, fay I, to be ufed by man, but what Go4 himfelf has diredted in the Scriptures, wherein are contained all the meaniS and methods of falvation. Faith is the gift of God. And we are not to ufe any other means to procure this gift to any one, but what God himfelf has prefcribed. If he has there appointed that any (hould be forced to hear thofe who tell them they have mif- taken their way, and offer to Jhew them the right i^ and that they {hould be puniihed by the magijlrate if they did not ; it will be paft doubt, it is to be made ufe of; But till that can be done, it will be in vain to fay what other means is there left. If all the means God has appointed, to make men hear and Confider, . \p exhortation in feafon and out of feafan, etc. together with prayer for them, and the example of meeknefs and a good life j this is all ought to be done, Whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear. By thefe means the Gofpel at firft made itfelf to be heard through a great part of the world j and in a crooked and perverfe generation, led away by h^s, humaurs, and prejudice, as well as this you complain of, prevailed with men to hear and imbrace the truth, and take care of their own fouls ; without the affiftance of any fuch farc^ of the magiflrate, which you now think needful. But whatever negleSl, or avsrfon there is in fome men, impartially and thrfxughiy to be inftrudted ; there will upon a due examination, I fear, be found no lefs a negled: and averfion in others, impartially^ ■a.nd throughly . to inftrud them. It is not the talking even general truths in plain and clear language ; much lefs a man's own fancies in fcholaftic or uncommon ways of Q)eaking, an hour or two, once a week in public ; that is enough to inftrud even willing hearers in the way of falvation, and the grounds of tlieir religion. They are not politic difcourfes which are the means, of right information in the foundations of religion. For with fuch, fometimes venting antimonarchical principles, fometimes again preaching up nothing but abio- lute monarchy and paffive obedience, as the one or other have been in vogue, and the way to preferment, have our churches rung in their turns, foloudly,, that A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION that reafons and arguments proper and Sufficient to convince men of the truth in the controverted points of religion, and to direft them in the right way, to falvation, were fcarce any where to be heard. But how many, do you think, by friendly and Chriftian debates with them at their houfes, and by the gentle methods of the Gofpel madeufe of in private converfation, might have been brought into the churcli j who, by railing from the pulpit, ill and unfriendly treatment out of it, and other neglefts and mifcarriages of thoie who claimed to be their teachers, have been driven from hearing them ? Paint the defedts and mifcarriages frequent on this fide, as well as you have done thofe on the other, and then do you, with all the world, confider whe- ther thofe who you fo handfomely declaim againft, for being mifled by edu" cation^ paffion, humour, prejudice, objiinaey; etc. do deferve all the punifhment. Perhaps it will be anfwered j if there be fo much toil in it, that particular perfons muft be applied to, who then will be a minifter ? And what if a layman fhould reply : if there be fo much toil in it, that doubts muft be cleared, prejudices removed, foundations examined, etc. who then will be a proteftanti the excufe will be as good hereafter for the one as for the other. This new method of yours, which you fay no body can deny but that indi-^ reBly, and at a dijiance, it does fome fervice towards bringing men to imbrace the truth -, was never yet thought on by the moft refined perfecutors. Though indeed it is not altogether unlike the plea made ufe of to excufe the late bar- barous ufage of the proteftants in France, ■ defigned to extirpate the reformed religion there, from being a perfecution for religion. The French king re- quires all his fubjefts to come to mafs : thofe who do not, are puniflied with a witnefs. For what ? Not for their religion, fay the pleaders for that dif- cipline, but for difobeying the king's laws. So by your rule, the diflenters, for thither you would, and thither you muft come, if you mean any thing, muft be punifhed. For what ? Not for their religion, fay you, not for follo'wing the light of their own reafon, not for obeying the diSlates of their own confciences. That you think not fit. For what then are they to be puniftied ? To make them, fay you, examine the religion they have imbraced, and the reli- gion they have rejeBed. So that they are punifhed, not for having offended againft a law : for there is no law of the .land that requires them to examine. And which now is the fairer plea, pray judge. You- ought, indeed, to have the credit of this new invention. All other law-makers have conftantly taken this method ; that where any thing was to be amended, the fault was firft declared, and then penalties denounced againft all thofe, who, after a time fet, fhould be found guilty of it. This the common fenfe of mankind, and the very reafon of laws, which are intended not for punifhment, but correction, has made fo plain, that the fubtileft and moft refined law-makers have not gone out of this courfe, nor have the moft ignorant and barbarous nations miffed it. But you have outdone Solon and Lycurgus, Mofes and our Saviour, and are refolved to be a law-makef of a way by yourfelf. It is an old and obfolete way, and will not ferve your turn, to begin with warnings and threads of penalties to ht inflifted on thofe who do not reform, but con- tinue to do that which" you think they fail in. To allow of impunity to the innocent. 86 A SECOND LETTER -CONCERNINC TOLERATION innocent, or the opportunity of amendment to tbofe who would avoid the penalties, are formalities not worth your notice. You are for a (horter and furer way. Take a whole tribe, and punifli them at all adventures }. whe- ther guilty or no, of the mifcarriage which you would have amended i or without fo much as telling them what it is you would have them do, but leaving them- to find it out if they can. AH thefe abfurdities are contained in your way of proceeding ; and are irnpoffible to be avoided by any one who will punifh diffenters, and only diffenters, to make them confider and weigh the grounds of their religion, and impartially examine whether it be true or «(?, and upon what grounds they took it up, that fo they may find and imhrace the truth that mufijave them. But that this new fort of difcipline may have all P. lo fair play, let us inquire firft, who it is you would have be puniflied. In the place above-cited, they are thofe who are got into a wrong way, and are deaf to all perfuafions. If thefe are the men to be puniflied, let. a law be made a^'ainft them: you have my confent; and that is the proper courfe to have offenders punifhed. For you do not, I hope, intend to punifli any fault by a law, which you do not name in the law; nor make a law againfl: any fault you would not have puniflied. And now, if you are fincere, and in earnefl:, and are, as a fair man fliould be, for what your words plainly fignify, and nothing elfe ; ,what will fuch a law ferve for ? Men in the wrong way are to be punijhed: but who are in the wrong way is the queftion. You have no more reafon to determine it againft one, who differs from you ; than he has to conclude againfl you, who differ from him. No, not though you have the magiflrate and the national church on your fide. For, if to differ from them be to be in the wrong way, you, who are in the right way in. England, will be in the wrong way in France. Every one here mufl be judge for him- ifelf : and your law will reach no body, till you have convinced him he is in the wrong way. And thea there will be no need of punifhment to make him confider ; unlefs you will affirm again, what you have denied, and have men punifhed for imbracing the religion they believe to be true, when it differs from yours or the public. Befides being in the wrong way, thofe who you would have puniflied mufl he iuchzs, are deaf to all perfuafions. But any fuch, I fuppofe, yoti will hardly find, who hearken to no body, not to thofe of their own way. If you mean by deaf to all perfuafions, all perfuafions of a contrary party, or of a different church ; fuch, I fuppofe, you may abundantly find in your own church, as well as elfewhere ; and I prefume to them you are fo charitable, that you would not have them punifhed for not lending an ear to feducers. For conftancy in the truth, and perfeverance in the faith, is, I hope, rather to be incouraged, than by any penalties checked in the orthodox. And your church, doubtlefs, as well as all others, is orthodox to itfelf in all its tenets. If you mean by all perfuajion, all your perfuafion, or all perfuafion of thofe of your communion ; you do but beg the queflion, and fuppofe you have a right to punifh thofe who differ from, and will not comply with you. P. II Your next words are. When men fly from the means of a right information^ and will not fo much as confider h'ow reafonable it is, throughly and impartially to A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION to. examine a religion; -which they imhraced upon fuch inducements as ought to have nofway. at all in the matter, and therefore with little or no examination of the proper grounds of it; what hUman method can be ifed, to bring them to adt like men, in an affair of fuch confequence; and to make a wifer and more rational choice. But that of laying fuch penalties upon them, as may balance the ^weight afthofe prejudices which inclin'd them to prefer afalfe way before the true, and recover them to,fo muchfobriety and refeSiion, as ferioufly to put the quefion ta themf elves ; whether it be really worth the while to undergo fuch inconveniences, for adhering to a religion, which, for any thing they know, may befalfe, or for rejeSling another f if that be the cafe J which, for any thing they know, may be true, till they have brought it to the bar of reafon, and given it a fair tryal there. Here you again bring in fuch as prefer afalfe may before a true : to which having anfwered already, I fhall here fay no more, but that, fince our church will not allow ihofe to be in a falfe way who are out of the church of Rome, becaufe the church of Rome, which pretends infallibility, declares hers to be the only true way ; certainly no one of our church, nor any other, which claims not infallibility, can require any one to take the teftimony of any church, as a fufficient proof of the truth of her own doc- trine, ^o xhzt true and falfe, as it commonly happens, when we fuppofe them for ourfelves, or our party, in effedl, fignify juft nothing, or nothing to the purpofe ; unlefs we can think that true or falfe in England, which will not be fo at Rome, or Geneva : and vice verfd. As for the reft of the de- fcription, of thofe on whom you are here laying penalties ; I befeech you con- fider whether it will not belong to any of your church, let it be what it will. Confider, I fay, if there be none in your church who have imbrac'd her religion, upon fuch inducements as ought to have nofway at all in the matter, and therefore with little or no examination of the proper grounds of it ; who have not been inclind by prejudices ; who do not adhere to a religion, which for any thing they know may befalfe, and who have rejeSied another which for any thing they know may be true. If you have any fuch in your communion, and it will be an admirable, though I fear but a little, flock that has none fuch in it, confider well what you have done. You have prepared rods for them> for which I imagine they will con you iio thanks. For to make any toler- able fenfe of what you here propofe, it muft be underftood that you would have men of all religions punifhed, to make them confider whether it be really worth the while to undergo fuch inconveniences for adhering to a religion which for anything they know may befalfe. if you hope to avoid that, by what you have faid of true znA falfe ; and pretend that the (u^'poitA preference of the true way in your church, ought to preferve its members from your punifh- ment ; you manifeftly trifle. For every church's teftimony, that it has chofens the true way, muft be taken for itfelf ; and then none will be liable; and your new invention of punifhment is come to nothing: or elfe the differing; churches teftimonies muft be taken one for another ; and then they will be all out of the true way, and your church need penalties as well as the reft. So that, upon your principles, they muft all or none be punifhed. Chufe which you pleafe : one of them, I think, you cannot efcape. What 88 A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION P, u What you fay in the next words ; where inJiruSiion is fiifly refufed^ and all admonitions and perfuafions prove vain and ineffeSiual i diSers nothing but in the way of exprefling, from deaf to all perfuafions: and fo that is anfwered already. P- 20 In another place, you give us another defcription of thofeyou think ought to be puniflied, in thefe words j Thofe who refufe to imhrace the doSirine, and fubmit to thefpiritual government of the proper minifters of religion^ who by fpe- cial defignation are appointed to exhort, admonip, reprove, etc. Here then, thofe to be puniflied, arefuch who refufe to imbrace the doSirine, and fubmit to the government of the proper minijiers of religion. Whereby we are as much flill at uncertainty, as we were before, who thofe are who, by your fcheme, and laws fuitable to it, are to be puniflied. Since every church has, as it thinks, its proper minijiers of religion. And if you mean thofe that refufe to imbrace the do£lrine, and fubmit to the government of the minifiers of another church i then all men will be guilty, and muft: be puniflied j even thofe of your church, as well as others. If you mean thofe who refufe, etc. the mi' nijiers of their own church j very few will incur your penalties. But if, by liick proper minijiers of religion, the minift:ers of fome particular church are intended, why do you not name it ? Why are you fo referved, in a matter wherein, if you fpeak not out, all the reft that you fay will be to no pur- pofe ? Are men to be puniflied for refufing to imbrace the doStrine, and fubmit ■ to the government, of the proper mincers ^ the church o/" Geneva ? For this time, fince you have declared nothing to the contrary, let me fuppofe you of that church : and then, I am fure, that is it that you would name. For of whatever church you are, if you think the minifters of any one church ought to be hearkened to, and obeyed, it muft be thofe of your own. There are perfbns to be puniflied, you fay. This you contend for, all through your book ; and lay fo much ftrefs on it, that you make the prefervation and pro- pagation of religion, and the falvation of fouls, to depend on it : and yet you defcribe them by fo general and equivocal marks j that, unlefs it be upon fuppofitions which no body will.grant you, I dare fay, neither you, nor any body elfe, will be able to find one guilty. Pray find me, if you can, a man whom you can judicially prove, for he that is to be puniflied by law muft be fairly tried, is in a wrong way, in reiped: of his faith ; I mean, who is deaf to all perfuafions, who files from all means of a right information, who refufes to imbrace the doSirine, and fubmit to (the government of the fpiritual pafiors. And when you have done that, I think, I may allow you what power you pleafe to punifli him j without any prejudice to the Toleration the author of the Letter propofes. But why, I pray* all this bogling, all this loofe talking, as if you knew not what you meant, or durft not fpeak it out? Would you be for punifliing fome body, you know not whom } I do not think fo ill of you. Let me then fpeak out for you. The evidence of the argument has convinced you that men ought not to be perfecuted for their religion ; that the feverities in ufe amongft Chriftians cannot be defended ; that the magiftrate has not autho- rity to compel any one to his religion. This you are forced to yield. But you would A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING tOLB^RATION % would faia retain fome power in the magiftrate's hands to punifti difleriters, upon a new pretence ; viz. not for having imbrafced the dodlrine and wor- fliip they believe to be true and right, but for not having well confidered their own and the magiftrate's religion. To fhew you that I do not.fpeak wholly without-book J give me leave to mind- you of one paffage of yours. The words are, penalties to put them upon aferious and impartial examination of the P. 26 controver/y between- the magijlrates and them. Though 'thefe words be not intended to tell us who you would have punifhed, yet it may be plainly in- ferred from them. And they more ^clearly point out whom you aim at, than all the foregoing places, where you feem to, and fhbuld, defcribe them. For they are fuch as between whom and the magijlrate there is a controverjy : that is, in fliort, who differ from the magiftrate in- religion. And now in- deed you have given us a note by which thefe you would have punifhed may be known. We have, with much ado, found out at laft whom it is we may prefiime you would have punifhed. Which in other cafes is ufually not very difficult : becaufe there the faults to be mended eafily defign the perfons to be correfted. But yours is a new method, and unlike all that ever went be- fore it. In the next place; let us fee for what you would have them punifhed. You tell us, and it will eafily be granted you, that not to examine and weigh impartially, and without prejudice or pdjjion, all which, for fhortnefs-fake, we will exprefs by^thisone^word f^j^d^r, the religion one imb'races- or refufes, is a fault, very common, and very prejudicial to true religion, and the falvation of mens fouls. But penalties and punifhments are very neceffary, fay you, to remedy this evil. ... ■Let us fee now how you apply this remedy. Therefore, fay you, \t^ all difTeriters be punifhed. Why? Have no diflfenters confidered of religion? - Or have all conformi;fts confidered ? That you yourfelf will not fay. Your projedt therefore is jiift as reafonable, as if a lethargy growing epidemical ia England j you fhould propofe to have a law made to blifter and fcarify and fhave the heads of all who wear gowns : though it be certain that neither all who wear gowns are lethargic, nor all who are lethargic wear gowns. ~—~ Diite Damajippe Deaeque' » Verum ob conjilium donent ton/ore. For there couldinot be certainly a more learned advice, than that "one man fhoyld be pulled by. the ears, becaufe another is afleep. This, when you have confidered of it again, for I find, according to your principle, all men have now and then need to be joggedj you will, I guefs, be convinced is not like a fair phyfician, to apply a remedy to a difeafe ', but, like an in- raged enemy, to vent one's fp'leen upon a party. Common fenfe, as well as common juftice, requires, that the remedies of laws and penalties fhould be direfbed againfl- the evil that is to be removed, wherever it be found. And if the punifhment you think fo neceffary, be, as you pretend, to cure the mif- cjiief you complain of, you muft let it purfue and fall on the guilty, and thofe only, ia what company foever they are; and not, as you here propofe, and is the higheft injuflice, punifh the innocent confidering diffenter, with the- N ' guilty i /: ^0 A SECOiND LETTER CQN^ERNINQ TOLERATION §w\%yL y ^i^ oil tfee ©ti^r fj4&. 1ft ifee mot^isMU giailfey caafbiaaift fc^e, with thf ^i^^opepl. F^f one m^y nationally patefiwne that the itational churg^ ias/^pfti wy wore ii;^ pj9porti©»» of wajfe ^a Kttle confider or cpnceifn ^hemfeh^es? aJbosiS rfJigi«», than any eongregatton- of diffenters. For confcienG?,. or the cace; c^ ^cm ioi^s^ feging ©nee laid afide j intsreft of courfe leads nxen in^o ths^t Iwi^^y* wfeece the fwotiwStioa and gauntenance of the gor- vcjinraf nt, and feopies <^ preftrmei^t, bid feixeft to all ihfiir ^ooaiaing- deflces. a^ that if qarde^, ne^^qal* ioconfideiate men in, snatteri of reMgioa, iab» imthout bemg forced 'WQSudd not: eo^ifib*, ace to he roufed into a care of thdr fo^ls, and a feajrch ^fte? ticutjb, hy puo^nsieRt&i d»e n^trotKijt religion, ia all countries, wiji certajwj[3E hs^ve Si ra^t to the greEdtoft fhaEe of diofe punifli^ ments ; at Ijcail:, not to be tv^o%- e3sem.pt ftom them. . Tj'his is i^%\yhicM^ author of the Letter, as;I xsmsxc^tus, complaias qI ; and th^t juftlyt vi?i. thatjtiei pretended' care of memfsuls alvie^t e9^J& itjelfy in tkofe. nsbo. ivQiJdi b«vi force, any way. made, ufr of to. tka( aid, in very unequal methods j ft^m^ p&fms. being> to he tneateA mitk Jbmrityi, 'whUft (dh^rs. guilty, of thefam faults, are nQi> ta heifa* much as Muck^di Thoijgb you are got pretty well out of the deep mud, and renounce punishments dir^Eify for religion ; yet you ftick ftill in this part of rfae mice ; whilil yoa would have diffenters punifhed to, mafce them cojifi^n, hut would not base any ^ing don^ to cpi^rmifts, though, never fo negligent ia this point o££9^ 4^,ing^ The author's letter pleaied me, hecaufe \l is equal to all mankind* i? diredt, and; will, I thJEyfe, hold every whec© -, which I take to be a good ijigrk of truth. For I fliaU always, fuil^a that neijbheir tocompoctiwith the truth of religion, or the defign of the Gofpel, which is fuited.to.ouly.&me Qne country, or p^j ty. What is true and good; iniJS??^^w right;^ judge you. Pray, Sir, confider a little, whether pr^udice. has not; fome fhare in your way of arguing. For this is youn pofitien j men are gene- rally negligent in examining the grounds of their religion. This I grant. But qouid theFe be a more; wild and incoherent confequaace drawn ftronu it, than> this , J therefore diffenters. mufi be punifiied. ? But that, being laid afide,, let us now fee to,whatendthey them the right. Which is^ tot P- 27 Iqqd an ear to all who differ from them in religion j as well cmfty feducers^ P. 23 as. others. Whether this be for the procurmg thefedvatum- of their fiuh, the end: for which you f^y. this force is to be \&Ai judge you. £^t}t this I am fure i A SECONO LETtEfc fcOHcfik^ll^S tbL-EilAfibl^ 91 futej whoever will knd ah iftr ib dU wB •will hll tkeiit they ^h oaf hfthe my, will not have much time fbt any other buflnefs. Sometimes it is, to recover then ibfo miich fobrteiy ahdhjieSikn, aifiriaujly P. ii tQ fut thi ^^M t6 themfelvesi ivðer it be really •wofH) iheir nvhlk td Undergo Jk&Hf ihe&h'UtHiences, fiV Mhirihg to a religion which, for any thing they know, may be futfe j or for rejeSiing Another (if that be the cafe) which, for ought they kmWi ih&y If^true, till they have broiight it td the Bar- of reaJBn, jzhd given ifSfmftfiSltkefe. Which, in fhort, amoiifrts to thtiS much, viz. to mah fkm ixOMme nbhetB^ iheir religioh he iriie, andfi Hiotrth the holding. Under thofe fmdltiti that ar-e anhexed to it. Diflehters are indebted to you for your gretft care of their fouls. But what, I befeeeh you, fhall become of thofe of the i^tiOnal church, ever^ where, which iftake fii" the greater part bf" mankind) Who have nb fuch puniflimentsf to tnake them conjtder ; whb hiV^ A(ol ehls vyily remedy pro'^^ided for them ; but are left in thai deplorable coh- dition yb« meftfion, d^ hieing Jufferd quietly, and withoiit rholejiatidn, to take no "P- ij iare at all j^«;^fl«r, or prejudice, iis, well as their own, wants, and will always want, a reafon to prove. Would it not, I befeech you, to an indifferent by-flander, appear humour ox prejudice, or fomething as bad; tq fee men, who profefs a religion revealed from heaven, and which they own contains all in it neceffary to falvation, exclude men from their com-, munion, and perfecute them with the penalties of the civil law* for not joining in the ufe of ceremonies which are no where to be found in that revealed religion ? Would it not appear humour or prejudice, or fonie fuch thing, .to a fober impartial Heathen -, to fee Chriftians exclude and perfecute one of the iame faith, for things which they themfelves confefs to be indif- P. 6, 7, 8, ferent, and not worth the contending for ? Prejudice, humour, pajjion,, lujis'i 9> 10 imprejjians of education, reverence and admiration of perfons, worldly refpeSls, love of their own choice, and the like, to v/hich. you juftly impute many mens taking, up, and perfifting in their religion, are indeed good words; and fo, on the other fide, are thefe following j /r«/>&, the right way, inlightning reafon, found judgment ^ .but they fignify nothing at all to your purpofe, till you can evidently and -unqueftionably fhew the world that the latter, viz. truth and the right way, etc. are always, and in all countries, to be found only in the, national church ; and the former, viz. pajpon and prejudice, etc. only amongfl the diffenters. But tago on : ' ?. 22 Sometimes it is, tp bring men to take fuch care as they ought of their falva- tion.. What care, is fuch as. men, ought to take, : whilft they are out of your church, will be hard for you to tell me. But you endeavour to explain *ypur^, felf, in the . following words,; that they rmy not blindly leave it to the choice neither of , any other perfon, nor yet of their own lujls and pajjions, to ptefcribe to: thejn what faith or what worjlnp they Jhdll imbr ace. You do well to make ufe of punishment to fhut,/»fl/5i?« out of the choice : becaufe you, know fear of fuffering is no pajim. But let that pafs, You.would have men punifhed, to bring them to take fuch care of their falvation, that they may not blindly, leave it to the .choice of any other perfon taprefcribe to them. Are you fincere .? Are you in earneft ? Tell me then truly : did the magiftrate or national church, any where, or yours in particular, ever punifli any man, to bring him io have this care which, you fay, he ought to take of his falvation? Did you ever punifli any man, that he might not blindjy leave it to the choice oi his pari flb^" prieft, or bi/hop, or the convocation, what faith or worfiiip h^ fhould imbrace .2 It will be fufpedted care of a party, or any thing el(e rather than care of the falvation of mem. fouls ; if, having found out fo ufefal, fo neceffary a P. 12 remedy, the only method there is room left for , you will apply it but partially,- and A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION 93 and make trial of it only on thofe whom you have truly^ leaft klndnefs for. This will, unavoidably, give one reafon to .imagine, you do not think fb well of your remedy as you pretend, who are fo ifparing of it to your friends ; but are very free of it to ftrangers, who in other things are ufed very much like enemies. But your remedy is like the helleborajieri that grew in the woman's garden for the cure of worms in her neighbour's children; for truly it wrought too roughly, to give it to any of her own. Methinks y®ur charity, in your prefent pe'rfecutioh, is much what as prudent, as ' juftifiahl'e, as that good woman's. I hope I have done you no injury, that I here fuppofe you of the church' of England. If I have, I beg your pardon. It is no offence of malice, I afTure you : for I fuppofe no worfe of you, than I confefs of myfelf. Soinetimes this punifliment that you contend for, is to bring men to aSi P. 22 according to rei^on and found judgment: ' 1 Tertius^ e coelo cecidit Gato, This is reformation indeed. If you can help us to it, you will deferve flatues to be ered:ed. to you, as to the reftorer of decayed religion. , But if alb men have not reafon and found judgment, w\\\ punifhmentput it into therri ? Befides, concerning this matter,: mankind is fo divided, ithat he aSis according to reafon and found- judgment zt Augsburg, who would be judged to do the" qiiite' contrary at £^z«(^ar^^. Will punifhment make men know what is reafon and found judgment f If it will not, it is impoffible it fliould make them c^ according to it. Reafon and fund judgment are the elixir it- felf, the univerfal remedy: and ybii may as reafonably punifh men to bring them to have the Philofopher's ftone, as to bring tbem toaSi according to reafon and found judgment. . , -. ■■ Sometimes it is. To put men upon aferious and impartial examina^tion of the P. 26 controverjy between the magijirate. and themi,^. which is the naayfor them to come to the knowledge of the truth. But what if the truth be on neither fide, as I am, apt to imagine you will think it is not, where neither the magiftrate nor the^diffenter is either of them of your church ; how, will the examining the controverfy between the magijirate and him be the way to come to the know- ledge of the truths Suppofe the controverfy between a Lutheran and a Pa- ^ pift ; or, if you pleaie, betvveen a Prefbyterian magiftrate and a Quaker fubjeft. Will the examining the controverjy ' between the magiftrate and the dijfenting fubjeSi, in this cafe, bring' him to the knowledge of the truth ? If you fay yes, .'thea you grant one of thefe to h^ve the truth on his fide. For the examining the controverfy between a Prefbyterian and a Quaker, leaves the controverfy either of them has with the church oi Englandt or any other church, untouched. And fo one, at leaft, of thofe being already come to the knowledge of the truth, ought not to be put under your difcipline of punifliment ; which is only to bring him to. the truth. If you fay no, and that the examning::the controverjy between the magiftrate and the diftenter, in this cafe,: will x\bi bring him to the knowledge of the truth ; you confefs your rule to be falfe, and your method to no purpofe. To A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATIOH To condUde, your fyftera is, in fhort, this. You would have all men* kyjng vifid^frefudice, humour, pt^/im, etc. examine the grsmdirf their reW-, gh^t and fiarcb far the truth.' Tl^, I confefs, is heartily to be wifliedj The means that yo*i propofe to make men do this, is that diflenters £hould be panifeed to make them do Co. It is as if you bad faid : Men gewcndlj? »re guilty of a fault j therefore let one fed:, who have thie ill luck to be of «n.opinion different from the nsagiftrate, be puniftied. This at firft ii^ ibooks any who hw the leaft Ipark of foifc, reafon, or juftice. But having ipokea of this already, and concluding that upon £©cond thoughts, fo\x jnmrfelf will fee afliamed of it ; let us confider it put fo as to be conMesat with conmiQO kaSa, aad with all the advantage it can bear ; and then let us fee what you can make of it. Men are negligent in examining the rdigkrn th^ mirace, r^ufe, or perj^ im ; therefore it k Jit they Jhoidd be fancied ta make them dn it. This is a confequence iisdeed which may, without ckfianes to common fenfe, be drawn from it. This is; the ufe, the only ufe, which jroit think puoiihment can inSre&fy^ and at a Sftancft haw, iff matters of celigttin. Ymt would have men by puniflimeots dsriven. to examioe. What f Meiigim^ Towhatead? To &rmg them ta the knowledge of 6he truth. But I an^ver. i. Every one has not the ability to do this. 2. Every one has not the opportunity to db it. Would yoa haye every pocr Proteftant, for example, in the Falatinate^ examine threugbfy whether the Pope be iti^ihle, or head of the church j whed}:i»: there be a pui^tory ; wheldier &inta are to be prayed to, or das 4e^ prayed for ; whether the fcripture be the only rule of ^th ;, whether • there, he no ialvatioa out of the church ; and whether there be no church without bifhops ; and an hundred other queflions in controversy between the Papifts and thoie Proteilants ; and' when he had maftered' thefe, go on to fortify him&lfagainft the opinions and objeiAtons of other churches he ^ differs from ? This, which is no finall tafk, mufl be done j before a man can have brmght his religion to. the bar of reefon, and given it a fair trial there.. And if you will punifhmen till this be done ; the countryman mufl leave off plowing and fowingv .and betake himfelf to the fludy of Greek and Latin; and the artifan muft fell his tools, to buy fathers and fchoolmen, and leave his family to flarwe. If fomething lefs than this will fatisfy youj pray tell me what is enough. Have they confidered and examined enough^ if they i are fatisfied themfdves where the truth lies ? If this be the limits of their examination,^ you will find few to punifh; unlefs you will punifh them to make them do what they have done already. For, however he came by his religion, there is fcarce any one to be found who does not own feimfelf fatisfied that he is in. the right. Or elfci' mufl they be punifhcd to make i them cimfiden 2x16. examine till th^ imbrace that which ywu choofe for truth ? If this be fo^ what do you but in effe6l choofe for them,, when P. aiyet you wouU have men punifhed, to hiring them to fuck a care ^ their Jbubi that no. other perfon mighi: choofi for them I If it be truth in general yoa would have them by puniflunentt& driven to feek.i that is to offer matter of dilute. A SECOND LETTER CONCERNrNG TOLERATlOff 95 4a%itev and not a role of difGipline. For to ^nifti any one ta make hirti &cure*? Neither that dare you> fay; left jfou- diipleafe'. more than you" fatisiy ,wi^ your newi difcipline. And then againi as I laid" befisrei you muft tetf us bow fer you would have them examine, before jroa puniiflb" tiiem" for not doing^it. AndUi imagine^ if that were all we required of you, it would be long enough before you would trouble us with^ a law, that fliould prefcribe toe^jery one how far he was- to examine matters of religiosi ; wherein if he feilediandtcame fhort, he was* to be puni(hed ; if he performed; and went irt his examination to- the bounds fet- by the law; he was acquitted and" freei Sir,- when you confider it again,, you will ^perhaps* thinlt this a cafe refer-ved to the great day, when thefecrets of dl hearts' fhair be laid open. Fort imagine itis beyond the power or judgment of man, in that variety of cir- cunaftances^ in pefped? of partsj tempers, opportttnities, helps, etc: menard in, in this world, to determine what is every one'sduty in this- grearbufiiJell; ©f fearch, enquiryi examination *. or to knowwhewany one has dooeitl That wiiich makes me believe you will be of this- mind, is, tbaj where yoa nn~ disstsk.&^&ix the fueeefs of thk^ method, if rigStiy ufedl it;is with a limititiori, upoafu&h as are mtmlto^tbep ineuraUe. So^ that when your remedy is pre- p. 12 pMediaccording to art, which art is yet unknown, and' rightly applied; and gijvi^v ins a due dofe, all' which are- fecretsi it will then infallibly cure. Whom ? All that are not incurable by it. And fo will-'a pippin psisffet; «Btn^»fifh in>Z,«?8if, or a Presbyterian leaijre, certainly cure all that are not iacutabile- by. them. For I- am fure- you do not mean it will cure all, but tbofe. who ajfeabfdtttely incurable i l^caufe you yourfdf allow one means left 9$ A SECOND^LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION left of cure, when yours will not do, viz. the grace lof God^ Your words P. 10 .are, -what means is there left f except the grace of GodJ^ to reduce them, but to lay thorns and briars in their way. And here alfo, in the place we were P, 12 .confidering, you tell us, the' incurable are to be left to Gad. Whereby, if jou mean they are to be left to thofe means he ha« ordained for mens con- ^ye^flon and falvation, yours muft never be made ufe of: for. he indeed has prefcribed preaching and hearing of his word ; but as for thofe who will not hear, I do not find any where that he has commanded they fhould be com- pfilled or beaten to it. . There is a third thing that you. are as tender and referved in, as either naming the criminals to be puniflied, or pofitively telling us the end for which they fhould be punifhed : and that is with what fort of penalties, what degree of punifhment they fhould be forced. You are indeed fb gra-* cious to them, that you renounce the feijerities and penalties- hitherto made P. 24 ufe of. You tell us, they fhould be but moderate penalties. But if .we afk you what are moderate penalties, you confefs you cannot tell us. So, that 1^ P- ^S moderate i here, you yet mean nothing. You te\\ us, the outward force to be " . apply d Jhould be duly tempefd. But what that due temper is, you do not, or \ cannot fay ; and fo in effedt, it fignifies jufl nothing. Yet if in this you are not plain and diredl, all the refl of your defign will fignify nothing. . For it being to have fome men, and to fome end, punifhed -, yet if it cannot > be found what punifhment is to be ufed, it is, nptwithftanding.all you havefaid, P. 12 utterly ufelefs. You tell us modejily, that to determine prectjely thejuji meafure of the punijhment, "will require fame confderation . If thp faul ts were precifely 'determined, and could be proved, it would require no more confideration to determine the. meafure of the punifhment, in, this, thaji it would in any other cafe, where thofe were known. But where the fault is undefined, and the , guilt not to be proved, as I fuppofe it will be found in this, prefent bufxnefs oi examining^ it will without doubt require confideration to proportion the force to the defign. Jufl fo much confideration as it will require to fit a coat to the moon, or proportion a fhoe to the fqet of thofe who inhabit her. For to proportion a punifhment to a^fault that you do not na^ne, isnd fo we in charity ought to think you do not yet know, and a fault that when you have named it, will be impoffible to be proved who are or are not guilty of it ; will I fuppofe require as mufch confideration, as to fit a fhoe to feet whofe fize and fliape are not known. - . However, you offer fom^meafures whereby, to regulate your punifhmentsj which when they are looked into, will be found to bejurt as good as none; P. 14 they being impoffible to be any^ule in the cafe. The firfl is, fo muchforce,^ orfiich penalties as, are ordinarily' fufficient to prevail with men of common difcre^ tion, and not ^ defperately perverfe and obfiinate, to weigh matters of religmi. carefully and impartially, and without which ordinarily they will not do this. Where it is to be obferved : I. That who are thefe men oi common difcretion, is as hard to know, as to know what is a fit degree of punifhment in the cafe j and fo you do but re- gulate one uncertainty by another. Some men will be apt to think,; that he who A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION 97 who will not weigh matters of religion, which are of infinite concernment to him, without punifhment, cannot in reafon be thought a man of common dif- cretipn. Many women of common difcretion enough to manage the ordinary affairs of their families, are not able to read a page in an ordinary author, or to underftand and give an account what it means, when read to them. Many men oi common difcretion in their callings, are not able to judge when aft argument is concliifive or no ; much lefs to trace it through a long train of confequences. What penalties Jhall be fufficient to prevail ■with, fuch, who upon examination, I fear, will not be found to make the leaft part of man- kind, to examine and weigh matters of religion carefully and impartially ? The law allows all to have common difcretion^ for whom it has not provided guar- dians or Bedlam. So that, in effe6t, your men of common difcretion are all men, not judged ideots or madmen : zndi penalties fufficient to prevail with men of common difcretion, are penalties fufficient to prevail with all men, but ideots and madmen.. Which what a meafure it is to regulate penalties by, let all men of common difcretion judge. 2. You may be pleafed to confider, that all men of the fame degree of difcretion, are not apt to be moved by the fame degree of penalties. Some are of a more yielding, fome of a more ftiff temper ; and what is fufficient to prevail on one, is not half enough to move the other ; though both men of common difcretion. So that common difcretion will be here of no ufe to deter- mine. the meafure of punifhment : efpecially when in the fame claufe you except men defperately perver/e and objiinate, who are as hard to be known, as what you feek : viz. the jufl proportions of punilhments necefTary to pre- vail with men to confider, examine, and weigh matters of religion; wherein, if a man tells you he has confderd, he has weigh" d, he has examind, and fo goes on in his former courfe, it is impoffible for you ever to know whether he has done his duty, or whether he be defperately perverfe and objiinate. So that this exception fignifies juft nothing. There are many things^ in your ufe of force and penalties, different from any I ever met with elfewhere. One of them, this claufe of yours, concern- ing the meafure of punifhments, now under confideration, offers me : wherein you proportion your punifliments only to the yielding and corri- gible, not to the perverfe and obftinate ; contrary to the common difcretion which has hitherto made laws in other cafes, which levels the punifliments againfl refradtory offenders, and never fpares them becaufe they are obfli- nate. This however I will not blame, as an overfight in you. Your new method, which aims at fuch impradticable and inconfiflent things as laws cannot bear, nor penalties be ufeful to, forced you to it. The ufelefnefs, ab- furdity, and unreafonablenefs of gr eztfeverities, you had acknowledged in the foregoing paragraphs. Diffenters you would have brought to confder by mo- p. 13, ij. derate penalties. They lie under them j but whether they have confidered or no, for that you cannot tell, they flill continue diffenters. What is to be done now ? Why, f/6^ incurable are to be left to God, as you tell us, p. 12. Your punifhments were not meant to prevail on the defperately perverfe and O objiinate^ ga ^ SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION ebJHmte, as you tell us here. And fo whatever be the fuceefs, ycajr punish- ments are however juftified. You have given us in another place, fomething like another boundary to yaax moderate penakks : but when examined, it prosres juft like the reft, trifling only, in good words, fa put together as to have no dir^ " nalfalvation, renounce a neligian be believes to be trt^e, or profefs one he do$& not believe to be fo.. If by thofe who. have any concern., you mean fuCh who have feme faint wifties for happinefs hereafter, and wcwild be glad to have things go well with them in the other world, but will venture nothing in this world for it ; thefe the moderateft puniflaments you can imagine, will make change their religion. If by any. concern, you mean whatever may be between thefe two ; the degrees are fo infinite, that to proportion your pu-i nifhments by that, is to have no meafure of them at all. One thing I cannot but take notice of in this paff?ige, before I leavecit : and that is, that you fay here, thofe who have no concern for their falva,tmti, deferve not to be confidered. In other parts of your letter you pretend to have compaflion on the carelefs, and* provide remedies for them : but here, of a fudden, your charity fails you ; and you give them up to eternal perdition, without the leaft regard, the leaft pity, znd.i&y they deferve not to be confirm dered. Our Saviour's rule< was, thefick, and not the> whole, needa phyjician. Your rule here is, thofe that are carelefs, are not to be confidered^ but are to be left to themfelves. This would feem ftrange, if one did not obferve what drew you to it. You perceived that if the magiftrate was to ufe no punifli-. ments but fuch as would make no body change their religion, he was to ufe none at all : for the carelefs would be brought to the national church, with any fKght punifhments j and when they are once there, you are, it feema, fatisfied, and look no farther after them. So that by your own meafures, if the carelefs, and thofe who have no concern for their eternal falvatien, are to be regarded and taken care of; if the falvation of their fouls is. to be pro-- moted, there is to be no punifliment ufed at all : and therefore you leave them out as not to be confidered. There remains yet one thing to be inquired into, concerning the meafure of the punifliments, and that is the length of their duration. Jfdoder^te pu-. nijhments that are continued, that men find no end of, know no way out crif, fit heavy, and become immoderately uneafy. Biffknterj you would have punijhed, to make them confider. Your penalties have had the effect on them you intended i they have made them confider j and they have done their ut- moil A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION 9-9 moft in confidering. What now muft be done with them ? They muft be punifhed on j for they are ftill diffenters. If it were juft, if you had reafoh at firft to punifh a diflfenter, to make him conjidety when you did not know but that he had eonfidered zhtziAy j it is as juft, and you have as much reafon to punifh him on^ even when ht has performed what your punifhments were defigned for, when he has cmjidered, but yet remains a diflenter. For I may juftly fuppofe, and you muft grant, that a man may remain a diflenter, after all thfe confideration your moderate peftalties can Mng him to ; when we fee greater punifhments, even thofe feveHties you difbwn, as too great, are not able to make men tonfidef fo far as to be ceh'winced, and brought over to the ndtiofial church. If your punifliments may not be inflidled on men, to make them conjider, who have or may have confidered already for ought you know ; then dif- fenters ate, never to be once punifhed, no more than ahy other Ibrt of men. If diflenteft are to be punifhed, to make them conjider, whether they have confidere-d or no ; then their punifhments, though they do confider, muft never ceafe, as long as they are diflenters ; which whether it be to punifh them only to bring them to confider, let all men judge. This I am fure; punifhments, in ycmt method, muft either never begin upon diffenters, or never ceafe. And fo pretend moderation as you pleafe, the punifhments which your method requires, muft be either very immoderate, or none at all. . And ijow, you having yielded to our author, and that upon very good teafons which you yo'M-felf urge, and which I fhall fet down in your own words, that to profecute men with fire and /word, or to deprive them of their?, 13, 14 ejiafes, to maitH th&tn with cofporal punijhments, tojiarve and torture them in T^foM prifons, and in the end even to take away their lives, to make them Chri» fiians, is but an ill way of exprejjing mens defire of the falvation of thqfe whom they treat in this manner. And that it will be very difficult to perfuade men of finfe, that he who with dry eyes and fatisfaBion of mind can deliver his brother to the executioner, to be burnt aUvgi does f merely and heartily concern himfef tofzve that brother from the flames of hell in the world to come. And that theji methods are fi_ very ifnproper, in reJpeSi to the defign of them, that they ufually produce the quite contrary eff'eB. For whereas all the ufe which force can hofoefor the advancing true religion, And thefalvation of fouls, is fas has aliready been JhewedJ by dif^ojing fnen tofubmit to inJlruStion, and to give a fair hearing to the reafons which are offered, for the inlightning their minds, and difcovering the truth to them ; thefe cruelties have the misfortune to be commonly look' d upon as fojufl a prejudice againfi any religion that ufe s them, as makes it needlefs to look any farther into it ; and to tempt men to rejeSi it, as both falfe and detefioMei without ever vouchfafing to confider the rational grounds andmo^ fives of it. This effeB they feldtm fatl to work upon the fufferers of them ; and as to the fpeBat&rs, if they be not before^hand well infiruSled in thofe grounds and motives, they will be much tempted likewife, mt only to entertain the fame opinion offuch a feltgioHf but withal t^- judge mitch more favourably of that of O 2 the 100 A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION thefufferers ; ivho they will be apt to think, would not expofe them/elves tofucb extremities, mohich they might avoid by compliance, if they were not throughly fatisfied of the jujiice of their caufi. And upon thefe reafons you conclude, that thefe feverities are utterly unapt and improper for the bringing men to im- P. 7.1 braci that truth which mufijave them. Again, you having acknowledged, /^a^ the authority of the magtjlrate is not an authority to compel any one to his reli- P. li^gion. And again, that the rigor of laws, and force of penalties are not capable P. 25/0 convince and change mens minds. And yet farther, that you do not- require that menjhould have no rule, but the religion of the court-, or that they Jhould be put under a neceffity to quit the light of their own reafon, and oppofe the die- ■ fates of their own confciences, and blindly rejign up themfelves to the will of their governors ; but that the power you afcribe to the magijirate, is given him to bring men not to his own, but to the true religion. Now you having, I fay, granted this, whereby you diredly condemn and abolifh all laws that^have been made here, or any where elfe, that ever 1 heard of, to compel men to con- formity; I think the author, and whofoever elfe are moft for liberty cS. confcience, might be content with the toleration you allow, by condemning the laws about religion, now in force; and reft fatisfied, until you had made your new method confiftent and pradiicable, by telling the world plainly and direftly, i. Who are to be puniftied. 2. For what. 3. With what punifhments. 4. How long, 5. What advantage to true religion it would be, if magiftrates every where did fo punifli. 6. And laftly, whence the magiftratehad commiffion to do fo. When you have done this plainly and intelligibly, without keeping in the uncertainty of general expreflions, and without fuppofing all along your church in the right, and your religion the true; which can no more be al- lowed to you in this cafe, whatever your church or religion be, than it can be to a Papift or a Lutheran, a Prefbyterian, or an Anabaptift, nay no more to you, than it can be allowed to a Jew or a Mohammedan ; when, I fay, you have by fettling thefe points, framed the parts of your new engine, fet it together, and (hewed that it will work, without doing more harm than good in the world ; I think then men may be content to fubmit to it. But imagining this, and an engine to (hew the perpetual motion, will be found out together ; I think toleration in a very good ftate, notwithftanding your anfwer ; wherein you having faid fo much for it, and for ought I fee, no- thing' againft it ; unlefs an imprafticable chimera be, in your opinion, fome- thing mightily to be apprehended. We have now feen and examined the main of your treatife ; ^ind therefore I think I might here end, without going any farther. But, that you may not think yourfelf, or any of your arguments neglecfted, I will go over the re- mainder, and give you my thoughts on every thing I (hall meet with in it, that feems to need any anfwer. In one place you argue againft the author thus : A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION loi thus : if then the author's fourth propqfition, as you call it, -viz. That force is of no ufe for promoting true religion and the falvation of fouls, be not true'P. 15. fas perhaps by this time it appears it is not) then the lafipropoftion, which is built upon it, mujl fall with it : which, laft proportion is this, viz. that no body can have any right to ufe any outward force or compulfon to bring men to the true religion, and fo to falvation. If this propofition were built, as you alledge, upon that which you call his fourth, then indeed if the fourth fell, this built upon it would fall with it. But that not being the author's propo- fition, as I have fhewed, nor this built wholly on it, but on other reafbns, as I have already proved, and any one may fee in feveral parts of his letter, particularly p. 36, 37, what you alledge falls of itfelf. The bufinefs of the next paragraph is to prove, Thzl'ii force be ufeful, then fomebody muji certainly have a right to ufe it. The firft argument you go about to prove it by, is this, ThsX ufefulnefs is as good an argument to prove there is fomewhere a right to ufe it, as ufelefnefs is to prove no body has fuch a right. If you confider the things of whofe ufefulnefs or ufelefnefs we are fpeaking, you will perhaps be of another mind. It is punifhment, or force ufed in punifhing. Now all punifhnient is fome evil, fome incon-^ - venience, fome fuffering ; by taking away or abridging fome good thing, which he who is puniflied has otherwife a right to. Now to juftify the bringing any fuch evil upon any man, two things are requifitCi Firftj That he who does it has commiffion and power fo to do. Secondly, That it be diredlly ufeful for the procuring fome greater good. Whatever punifh- ment one man ufes to another, without thefe two conditions, vvhatever he may pretend, proves an injury and injuftice, and fo of right ought to have been let alone. And therefore, though ufefulnefs, which is one of the conditions that makes .punifhments juft, when it is away, may hinder punishments from being lawful in any body's hands; yet ufefulnefs, when prefent, being but one of thofe conditions, cannot give the other, which is a commiffion to piinilh ; without which alfo punifhment is unlawful. From whence it follows. That though ufelefs punifhment be unlawful from any hand ; yet ufeful punifhment from every hand is not lawful. A man may have the ftone, and it may be ufeful, more than indir-eSily, and at a difance ufeful, to him to be cut j but yet this ufefulnefs will not juflify the moft fkilful furgeon in the world, by force to make him endure the pain and hazard of cutting; becaufe he has no commiflion, no right, without, the patient's own confent to do fb. Nor is it a good argument, cutting will , be ufeful to him ; therefore there is a right fomewhere to cut him, whether * he will or no.* Much lefs will there be an argument for any right, if there be only a poffibility that it may prove wi^^xiS. indireElly and by accident. ■ Your other argument is this ; If force or punifhment be of necejfary ufe, ' then it muji^be acknowledged, that there is a right fomewhere to ufe it \ unlefs' we will fay (what without impiety cannot be faidj that the wife and benign Difpofer' and Gcvernour of all things has not fUrnifhed mankind with competent • means for the promoting his own honour in the world, and the good of fouls. Ifyourwayof arguing be true j it is demonflration, thiiX. force is not of i necejfary 102 A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION ^ mctffiiry.ufi. For I argue thus, in your form. We muft acknowledge force not to be of necelTary ufe ; unlejs we will fay (what without impiety cannot bejaid) that the wife Dypofer and Governour of all things did not, for above three hundred years after Chrift, furnifh his church with competent means far promoting his own honour in the world, and the good of fouls. It is for you to confider whether thefe arguments be conclufive or no. This I am fure ; the one is as conclufive as the other. But if your fuppofed ufeful- nefs places a right fomewhere to ufe it, pray tell me in whofe hands it places it in 'Turky, Perfa, or China, or any country where Chri-f ftians of diflFerent churches live under a Heathen or Mohammedan fove- reign ? And if you cannot tell me in whofe hands it places it there, as I beKeve you will find it petty hard to do, there are then, it feems, fome places where, upon your fuppofition of the neceflary ufefiilnefs of force, thi wife and benign Governour and Di/pofef if all things, has notfurnijh'd men ivith competent means for promising his own honour, and the good of fouls ; un- lefs you will grant, that the wife and benign Difpofer and Governour of alt things, hath far the promoting of his honour, and the good (f fouls, placed a power in Mohammedan or Heathen priiices, to puniih Chriftians, to bring them to confider reafons and arguments proper to convince them. But this is the advantage of fo fine an invention, as that of force doi}^ fomefervice indi->' reSily and at a dijiance ; which ufefulnefs, if we may believe you, places a right in Mohammedan or Pagan princes hands, to ufe force upon Chriftians j for fear left mankind in thofe countries, ftiould be unfurnijh'd with means for P. IS the promoting Gods honour and the good of fouls. For thus you argue; if there' P. ibhe fo great ufe of force, then there is a right fomewhere to ufe it. And if there befuch a right fomewhere, where fiduld it be but in the civil fvereign f Who can deny now, but that you have taken care, great care, for the pro- moting of truth and the Chriftian religion ? But yet it is as hard for me, I confefs, and I believe for others, to conceive how you ftiould think to do any fervice to truth and the Chriftian religion, by putting a right into Mohamme- dans or Heathens hands to punifti Chriftians j as it was for you to conceive how the author Jlaould think to do any fervice to truth, and the Chrijiian religion, by exempting the profeflbrs of it from puniftiment every where ; fince there are more Pagan, Mohammedan, and erroneous princes in the world, than orthodox J truth, and the Chriftian religion, taking the world as we fnd it, is fure to be more puniftied and foppreffed, than error and falftiood. . The author having endeavoured to ftiew that no body at all, of any rank or * condition, had a power to punifti, torment, or ufe any man ill, for matters P. 17 of religion ; you tell us you do not yet underjiand, why clergymer^are not as ca- pable offuch power as other men. I do not remember that the author any where, by excepting ecclefiaftics more than others, gave you any occafion to {hew your concern in this point. Had he forefeen that this would have touched you fo nearly, and that you fet your heart fo much upon the clergy's power of puniQiing; it h like he would have told you, he thought eccle- fiaftics as capable of it as any men ; and that if forwardnefs and diligence in the exercife of fuch power may recommend any to it, clergymen in the opinion A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION ^oj opinion of the world ftand faireft for it. However, you do well to put in your claim for them, though the author excludes them no more than their neighbours. Nay, they muflr be allowed the pretence of the faireft title. For I never read of any feverities that were to bring men to Chrift, but thofe of the law oi Mq/bs ; \^%ich is therefore called ^feMgogue, (Gal. iii, 14.^ And the next verfe trf'ls us, that after that faith is come, njse are no langer under a^fekml-majier. But yet if we are ftill to be driven to Chrift by a rod, I fhall not envy them the pleafure of wielding it : only I defire them, when they have got the fcourge into their hands, to remember our Saviour, and follow his example, who never ufed it hut once ; and that they would, like him, imploy it only to drive vile and fcandalous traffickers for the things of this world, out of their church, rather than to drive whoever they can into it. Whether that latter be not a proper method to make their church what our Saviour there- pronounced of the Temple, they wh^ufe it were beft look. For in matters of rehgion, none are fo eafy to be driven, as thofe who hav& nothing ofreKgion at all; and next to them, the vicious, the ignorainty the worldling, and the hypocrite ; who care for no more of religion but the name, nor no more of any church, but its profperity and power j and who, not unlike thofe defcribed by our Saviour, fLuke xx, 4-7.^ for a fhew come to, or cry up the prayers of the church, that they may devour noidows, and- other helplels people's houfes. I fay not this of the ferious profefers of any church, who are in earneft in matl;ers of religion^ Such I value, who con- fcientioufly, and out of a fincere perfuafion, imbrace any religion, though^ different from mine, and in a way, I think, miftaken. But no body can have reafon to think otherwife than what I have faid, of thofe who are wrought upon to be of any church, by fecular hopes^ andi fears» Thofe truljr flaee trade ahcvt: all other confiderations, and mercharaiiae with religion* itfelf, who regulate thei^- choice by worldly profit and lofs-. You endeavour to prove, againft the author, that civil fociety is not iofH- tuted only for civil ends, i.e. H^he procuring, prefef^ving, and odmancing'vaQns civil' interefts : your words are : 1 muji fay, that our author does but b^g thg^F, 18 cjuejiion, when he affirms that the commomioealth is conjiituted^ only for the pra~ curing; prefermngr and ad'aancing of the civil inierejh of the members of it. That commonwealths are infi-ituted for thefe ends, no man will deny. But if there be any other ends befides thefi, attairtabh by the- civil fociety and govern- ment, ther-e is no r-eafon to affirm, that thefe ar-e th-S' only ends for which they ar-e defignedi JDoubtltfs commonwealths are inftitutedfbr the attaining of hit tie benefits which poMtical government can yield. And therefore, if thej^iritual, and eteriml' interefts- of men nmf any 'vmy be proctired or advanced by politicai- government, the procuring and ad^ofteing thofe- interef's nmft in all realm be reckon' d among t'he ends of ctvilfodeties, and'f6>, eonfe^ently, fall within the ct)mpafs of the magifirat^' s jurfdiBion. Thave fet down your words at large, to let the reader feej that you of all men had the leaft reafon to tel! the au- thor, he does but be^ the queftion j unlefs you mean to juftify yourfelf by- the pretence of his example. You argue thus. If there be any (aher ends attainable- by- ciiail fociety, then- civil- interefis are not the only ems for which- common.-' A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION commonwealths are injiituted. And h.oW do you pfove there be other ends ? Why thus, doubtkfs commonwealths are- injiituted for the attaining of all the benefits which p bujinefs to alledge, that God never gavejuch authority to one man over another as to compel any one to his religion. I will grant, if you pleafe, religion ejiab- liJUd by law is a pretty odd way of fpeaking in the mouth of a Chriftian j and yet it is much in fafhion : as if the magiftrates authority could add any force or fancSion to any religion, whether true or falfe. I am glad to find you have fo far confidered the magiftrates authority , that you agree with the author, that he hath none to coppel men to his religion. Much lels can he, by any eftablifhment of law, add any thing to the truth or validity of his own, or any religion whatfoever. It remains now to examine, whether the author's argument will not hold good, even againft puniihments in your way. For if the magiftrates autho- rity be, as you here fay, only to procure all his JubjeBs, (mark what you fay, P. 21 ALL HIS subjects) the means of difcovering the way of falvation, and to procure withal, as much as in him lies, that none remain ignorant of it. Or refufe to imbrace it, either for want of ufng thofe means, or by reafhn of any fuch prejudices as may render them ineffeBual. If this be the magiftrate's bufinefsi in reference to all his subjects j I defire you, or any man elfe, to tell me how this can be done by the application of force only to a part of therri -, unlefs you will ftill vainly fuppofe ignorance, negligence, or prejudice, only amongft that part which any where differs from the magiftrate. If thofe of the magiftrate's church may be ignorant of the way of falvation ; if it be poffible there may be amongft them, thofe who refufe to imbrace it, either for want of ufing thofe means, or by reafon of any fuch prejudices as may . render them ineft'eSiual: What, in this cafe, becomes of the magiftrate's authority to procure all hisfubjeSis the means of difcovering the way of falvation ? Muft thefe of his fubjeds be neglected, and left without the means he has authority to procure them? Or muft he ufe force upon them too? And then, pray, £hew me how this can be done. Shall the magiftrate putiiftx thofe of his own religion, to procure them the means of difcovering the way of falvation, and to procure as much as in him lies^ that they remain not ignorant of it, or refufi not to imbrace it ? Thefe are fuch contradictions in practice, this is fuch condemnation of a man's own religion, as no one can expeifl from the magiftrate; and I dare fay you defire not of him. And yet this is that Kb itiuft do, if his authority be to procure all his fubjeSis the means of difcovering the way to falvation. And if it be io needful, as you fay it is, that he fhould ufe it, I am fure force cannot do that till it be applied wider, and puniih- ment be laid upon more than you would have it. For if the magiftratebe by, force to procure, as much as in him lies, that none remain ignorant of the way of falvation ; muft he not punifti all thofe who are ignorant of the way of falvation f And pray tell me how is ^this any way pradicable, but by fuppofing none in the national church ignorant, and all out of it ignorant of the way of falvation. Which, what is it, but to punifh men barely for not being of the magiftrate's religion; the very thing you deny he has authority to do ? So tha^ the magiftrate having, by your own confeflion, no- authority thus to ufe force ; and- it being otherways impracticable for the procuring all his fubjeSls the means of difcovering the way of falvation ; there is an end of force. 130 A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION^ Jorce. And fo force being laid afide, either as unlawful, or unpraflicable, the author's argument holds good againft force, even in your way of apply- ing it. P. 20 But if you fay, as you do in the foregoing page, That the magiftrate has authority to lay fuch penalties upon thofe who refufe to imbrace the doSlrine of the proper minijiers of religion, and to fubmit to their fpiritual government, as to make them bethink themfehes fo as not to be alienated from the truth. (For, ^^iovfoolijh humour, and uncharitable prejudice, iicc. which are but words of courfe that oppofite parties give one another, as marks of diflike and pre- fumption, I omit them, as fignifying nothing to the queftion; being fuch as will with the fame- reafon be retorted by the other fide;) Againft that alfo the author's argument holds. That the magiftrate has ao fuch authority. I. Becaufe God never gave the magiftrate an authority to be judge of truth for another man in matters of religion : and fo he cannot b&^judge whether zny mzn be alienated from the truth or no. 2. Becaufe the magiftrate had never authority given -him to lay any penalties on thofe nvho refuje to imbrace the doSirine of the proper minijiers of his religion, or of any other,- or to fubmit to their fpiritual government, more than on any other men. To the author's argument, that the magiftrate cannot receive fuch autho- rity from the people; becaufe no man has power to leave it to the choice P. 22 of any other man to chufe a religion for him ; you give this pleafant anfwer. As the power of the magiftrate, in reference to religion, is ordained for the bringing men to take fuch care as they ought of their falvation, that they may not blindly, leave it to the choice, neither of any other perfon, nor yet of their own lujis and pajjions, to prefcribe to them what faith or worjhtp they Jhall imbrace : fo if we fuppbfe this power to be vefled in the magiftrate by the confent of the people; this will not iniport their abandoning the care of their falvation, but rather the contrary. For if men, in chufing their religion, arefo generally fubjeSl, as has been jhewed, when left wholly to themfehes, to befo muchfivayd by prejudice and paffion, as either not at all, or not - fufficiently to regard the reaifons and motives which ought alone to determine their choice ; then it is every mails true inter eft, not to be left wholly to himfelfin this matter ; but that care Jhouldbe taken, that in an affair of fo vafi concernment to. him, he maybe brought even agdinfi his own inclination, if it cannot be done otherwife, (which is ordinarily the cafe) to aSi according to reafon and found judgment. And then what better courfe can men take to provide for this, than by vefting the power I have defcribed, in him iJdho bears thej'wordf Wherein I befeech you confider, I. Whether it be not pleafant, that you fay the power of the magiftrate is ordairid to bring men to take fuch care ; and thence infer. Then it is every one's intereft to veft fuch power in the magiftrate ? For if it be the power of the magiftrate, it is his. And what need the people veft it in him, unlefs. there be need, and it be the beft courfe they can take^ to veft a power in the magiftrate, which he }ias already ? 2. Another pleafant thing you here fay, is ; That the power of the magiftrate is to bring men to fuch a care of their falvation, that they may not blindly leave it to the choice of any perfon, or their ■own lufts, or pajjions, to prefcribe to them what faith or worjbip they Jhall imbrace i A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION in hnbrace', and yet that it is their beji courfe to veji apower in the magijirate, Fiable to the fame lujis and pqffions as themfelves, to chufe for them. For if they veft a power in the magiftrate to-punifh them, when they diffent from his religion j to bring them to a6i, even agmnji their own inclination^ according to their reafon and found judgment ; which i'S, as you explain yourfelf in an- other place, to bring them to conjider reafons and arguments proper andfuffi" cient to convince them : How far is this from kavirig it to the choice of another man to prefcribe to them what faith or worjhip they Jhall imbrace f Elpecially if we confider, that you think it a ftrange thing, that the author would have the?, iff care of every ?nan'ifoul left to himfelf alone. So that this care being vefted in the magiftrate with a power to punijh men to make them conjider reafons and arguments proper and fufficient to convince them of the truth of his reli- gion ; the choice is evidently in the magiftrate ; as much as it can be in the power of one man to chufe for another what religion he fliall be of, ■which confifts only in a power of compelling him by puniftiments to im- brace it. I do neither you nor the magiftrate injury, when I fay that the power you give the magiftrate of ^a«^?«^ men, to make them confider reafons and argu<- ments proper and fufficient to convince them, is to convince them of the truthi of his religion, and to bring them to it. For men will never, in his opinion-^ dB according to reafon and found judgment, which is the thing you here fay men Jhould be brought to by the magijirate, even againft their own inclination^,. till they imbrace his religion. And if you have the brow of an honeft man-,* you will not fay the magiftrate v/ill ever punifti you to bring you to conjider any other reafons and arguments, but fuch as are proper to convince you of the truth of his religion, and to bring you to that. Thus you ftiift forwards and backwards. You fay the magijirate has no power to punijh men, to compel' them to his religion ; but only to- compel them to conjider reajons and arguments; proper to convince them of the truth of his religion, which is all one as to fay, no body has power to chufe your way for you to Jerifalem j. hut yet the lord of the mannof has power to punifh you, to bring you to eonfder reafons and arguments proper and fufficient to convince you. Of what ? That the way he: goes in, is the right, ^nd fo to make you join i» company, and go along with, him. So that, in effe the fame place again ; and put a power into the magiftrate's hands, under another pretence, to compel men to his religion j which ufeofj^^'?,' the au- thor has fufficiently overthrown, and you yourfelf have q^uitted. But I am tired to follow you fo often round the fame circle. You fpeak of it here as the moft deplorable eonditioa imaginable, that vatn Jhould be left to themfelves, and not be forced to conjider and examine the^, 22; grounds of their religion, andfearch impartially and diligently after the truth. This you make the great mifcarriage of mankind. And for this you feem folicitous, all through, your treatife, to find out a semedy ; and there is fcarce aleaf wherein you do not offer yours. But what if, after all, now you (hould be found to prevaricate ?• Men have cordrived to themfelves, fay you;, a great v-a^ p. jj, riety of religions : it is granted* T^hey feek not the. truth in, this matter- with thatt A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION that application bfmindy and that freedom of judgment which is requifite : it Is confefled. All the falfi religims now on foot in the world, have taken their rife from the flight and partial confderation, which men have contented themftlves njoithj in fe arching after the true-, and men take them up, and perfifi in them for want of due examination : be it fo. There is need of a remedy for this, and I have found one whofe fuccefs cannot be queflioned: very well. What is it ? Let us hear it. Why, diffenters mufi be punijhed. Can any' body _ that hears you fay fo, believe ycu in earneft j and that want of examination is the thing you would have amended, when v/ant of examination is not the thing you would have puniflied ? If want of examination be the fault, want of exa- mination muft be punifhed ; if you are, as you pretend, fully fatisfied, that punifhment is the proper and only means to remedy it. But if, in all your treatife, you can fhew me one place, where you fay that the ignorant,^ the carelefs, the inconfiderate, the negligent in examining throughly the truth of their own and others religion, etc. are to be punifhed ; I will allow your re- medy for a good one. But you have not faid any thing like this ; and which is more, I tell you before hand, you dare not fay it. And whilft you do not, the world has reafon to judge, that however want of examination be a ge- neral fault, which you with great vfehemency have exaggerated; yet you ufe it only for a pretence to punifh diffenters ; and either diftruft your re- medy, that it will not cure this evil, or elfe care not to have it generally cured. This evidently appears from your whole management of the argu- "ment. And he that reads your treatife with attention, will be more con- firmed in this opinion, when he fhall find, that you, who are fo earneft to have men punifhed, to bring them to confider and examine, that fo they may difcover the way to fahation, have not faid one word of confidering, fearching, and hearkening to the Scripture ', which had been as good a rule for a Chri- flian to have fent them to, as to reafons and arguments proper to convince them of you know not what ; as to the inJiruSiion and government of the proper mi- nijiers of religion, which who they are, men are yet far from beirfg. agreed j or as to the information ofthofe, who tell them they have mijiaken their way, and offer to Jhew them the right ; and to the like uncertain and dangerous guides j which were not thofe that our Saviour and the Apoftles fent men to, but to the Scriptures. Search the Scriptures, for in th^ you think you have eternal life, fays our Saviour to the unbelieving perfpcuting Jews, ( fohn v, 39) and it is the Scriptures which St. Taul fays, are able to make wife unto fahation, (11 Tim. Ill, 15) \ Talk no more, therefore, if you have any care of your reputation, how mucR // is every mans interejt not to be left to himfelf, without molejiation, with- out punijhment in matters of religion. Talk not of bringing men to imbrace the , truth that muftfave them, by putting them upon examination. Talk no more enforce and punijhment, as the only way left to bring men to examine. It is evi- dent you mean nothing lefs. For, though Want of examination be the only fault you complain of, znd. punifiment be in your opinion the only way to bring men to it ; and this the whole defign of your book i yet you have not once propofedin it, that thofe, who do not impartially examine, fhould be forced to A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION to it. And,' that you may not think I talk at random," when I fay you dar6 not; I will, if you pleafe, give youfome reafons for my faying o. 1. Becaufe, if you propofe that all fliould be puniflied, who are ignorant, who have not uiedfuchconfideration as is apt and proper to manifeji the truth j but have been determined in the choice of their religion by imprejfions of education » admiration ofperfons, worldly refpeBs, prejudices, and the like incompetent mo- tives i and have taken up their religion, without examining it as they ought j you will pjropofe to have feveral of your own church, be it what it will, punifhed j which would be a propofition too apt to offend too many of it, for you to venture on. For whatever need there be of reformation, every one will not thank you for propofing fuch an one as muft begin at, or at leaft reach to, the houfe of God. 2. Becaufe, if you fhould propofe that all thofe who are ignorant, carelefs, and negligent in examining, fhould be punifhed, you would "have little to fay in this queflion of Toleration. For if the laws of the ftate were made as they ought to be, equal to all the fubje£ts, without diilinflion of men of different profeflions in religion ; and the faults to be amended by punifh- ments, were impartially punifhed, in all who are guilty of them; this would immediately produce a perfedl toleration, or £hew the ufelefsnefs of force in matters of religion. If therefore you think it fo neceffary, as you fay, for ih^ promoting of true religion, and the falvation of fouls, that men fhould be punijhed to make them examine; do but find a way to apply force to all that have not throughly and impartially examined, and you have my confent. For though force be not the proper means of promoting re- ligion ; yet there is no better way to fhew the ufelefsnefs of it, than the applying it equally to mifcarriages, in whomfoever found ; and not to diflindt parties or^perfuafions of men, for the reformation of them alone, when others are equally faulty. 3. Becaufe, without being for as large a toleration as the author propofes, you cannot be truly and fincerely for a free and impartial examination. For whoever examines, mufl have the liberty to judge, and follow his judgment j or elfe you put him upon examination to nopurpofe. And whether that will not as well lead men from, as to your church, is fb much a venture, that by your way of writing, it is evident enough you are loath to hazard it j and if you are of the national church, it is plain your brethren will not bear with you in the allowance of fuch a liberty. Yqu mufl therefore either change your method i and if the want of examination "be. that great and dangerous fault you would have corrected, you mufl equally punifh all that are equally guilty of any negledl in this matter, and then take your only means, your be- \ovtdi force, and make the befl of it j or elfe you mufl put off your mafk, and confefs that you defign not your punifhments to bring men to examination, but to conformity. For the fallacy you have ufed, is too grofs to pafs upon this age. What follows to p. 26, I think I have confidered fufficiently already. But there you have found out fomething worth notice. In this page, out of abundant kindnefs, when the dilTenters have their heads, without any caufe, Q^ broken. 11^. A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION P, 26' feroJcen, .you provide them a pkifter. For, fay y®u, if upon fuch examinatm of the matt-er, ft. ^. bftsught to it by the magiftrat'e's punifliment) ihy chance to find, that the truth does not lie on the mag4jirate's fide-, theyhavegmdd thus much however, even by the magijirate's mifiipplying his power, that they kno^ better than they did before, where the truth does lie. Which is as true, as if you ftiould fay, upon examination I find fuch a one is out of the way to York ; therefore I know better than i did before, that I am in the right. For neither of you may be in the right. This were true indeed, if there were but two ways in all ; a right and a wrong. But where there be an hundred ways, and but one right; your knowing upon examination, that that which -I take is wrong, makes you not know any thing better than before, that yours is the right. But if that be the beft reafon you have for it, it is ninety-eigh-t to one ftill againft you, that you are in the vvrong-. Befides, he that has been punifhed, may have examined before, and then you are fure he gains nothings. However, you think you do Well to incourage the magiftrate in punifliing^ and comfort the man who has fuffer'd unjuftly, by fhewi-ng what he fliafl gain by it. Whereas, on the contrary, in a difcourfe of this nature, where the bounds of right and wrong are inquired into, and fliould be eftabliflied, the magiftrate was to be fhewed the bounds of his authority, and warned of the injury he did when he fnifapplies his power, and punifhed any man who deferved it not; and not be foothed into injuftice, by corifideration df ^0a« that might thence accrue to the fufFerer. Shall we do evil that good may come of it ? There are a fort of people w'ho are very Wary of touching upon the magiftrate's duty, and tender of fhewfng the bounds of his power, ■- and the • injuftice and ill confequences o^ \\\% mtfapplying it ; at leaft, ib long; as it is mifapplied ift favour of them, and their party. I know not vvhether you are of their number. But this lam fure; you have the misfortivne here to fall into their miftake. The magiftrate, you cqnfefs, may in this cafe mifapply his power ; and inftead of reprefenting to him the injuftice of it, and the ac- counthe muft give to his fovereign, one day, of this great truft put into his hands, for the equal proteftion of all his fubjefts : you pretend advantages which the fufFerer may receive from it : and fo inftead of diftieartning from, you give incouragement to, the mifchief. Which, upon your principle, joined to the natural thirft in man after arbitrary power, may be carried to all manner of exorbitancy, with fome pretence of right. P. 15 ,For thus ftands your fyftem. If force, i. c. punijhment, may be any way ■ujefulfor the promoting the fahation of fouls, there is a right famewhere to ufe P- 16 //•. And this right, lay you, is in the -magiftrate. Who then, upon your grounds, may quickly find reafon, where it fuits his inclination, or ferves his turn, to punifh men diredly to bring 'them to his religion. For if he ■ may uih force, becaufe it may be, indire&ly, and at a dijiance, any way, ujefiil towards , the fahation of fouls, towards the procuring any -degree of glory; why^may he not, by the fame rule, ufe it where it may be ufeful, at leaft indireiily, and at a dijidnce, towards the procuring a greater degree of glory .f* • For St. Paul affures us, that the affliSlions of this life work for us a far more -exceeding- 'height of -glory. So that why Ihould they not be puni/hed; if in the A SPCOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION iij the Wfmgi tQ feriag theoa iatQ the ®ght way i if in die right, to make them by theaE (\iffer'mg& gt^xters q£ a far more exceeding weighhof glory f But what- ever yow f^y mfpm^ment bemg lawfuhMeeaufe indkeSily, and at a dijiance it may U Hfiftcli I fuppofe, upon cooler thoughts, yow will be apt to fufpeS that, fepwever fufferings may promote the fahation of thofe who make a good ufe pf them, and fo fet men furer in the ri^t w^, or higher in a ftate of glory i yet thofe who make men unduly fuffer, will have the heavier ac- count, and greater ^weight of ^uilt upon them, to fink them deeper in the pit of perditiofi i anid that therefore they flaould be v^araed to take care of fo tjfing their power. Beeaufe whoever be gainers by it, they themfelves will, without repentance and amendment, be fure to be lofers. But by granting ' tjiat the magiflrate mifitppBes his power, when he punifhes thofe who have the right on their fide, whether it be to bring them to his own religion, or whe- tiier it be to bring them to cav^der reckons and arguments proper to convince th^m, you grant all that the aAithor contends for. All that he endeavours, is tpl^ew the bounds of civil power; and that in puniflaing others for Eeli- gion, the magiftrate mi/applies the force he has in his hands, and fo goes be-- y^nd right, beyond the limits of his power. For I do not think the author qf the letter fo vain* I am fure for my part I am not, as to hope by argu- ments, though never fo clear, to xefbrm prefently all the abufes in this mat- ter ; efpecially whilft men of art, and religion, endeavour fo induftrioufly to palliate and difguife, what truth, yet, fometimes, unawares farces from them. Do not think I make a wrong ufe of your faying, the magi/irate mifapplies hispoiiaer, when I fay yoU therein grant ail that the author contends for. For if the magiftrate iwj/^^^/ifj, or makes a wrong ufe of his power, when he pu- mihes in.matters of religion any one who is in the right, though it be but to make him confider, as you grant he does, he alfo mifapplies, or makes wrong ufe of his poweri when he punifhes any one, whomfoever in matters of reli- gipn, to make him confider. For every one is here jildge for himfelf, what is right; and in matters of faith, and religious worfhip, another cannot judge for him. So that to punifh any one in matters of religion, though it be but to make him confider, is by your own confeflion beyond the magiftrate's power. And that punilhing in matters of religion is beyond the magiftrate's power, is what the author contends for. You tell us in the following w^ords, all the hurt that comes to them by it, is P. 26 only the fuf'eringfome tolerable inconveniencies, for their following tBe light of their own reafon, and the dilates of their own confciences ; which certainly is no fuch mifchiefto mankind-, as to make it mare elegible, that there fiould be nofuch power vejied in the magiftrate, but the care of every man' s foul Jhould be left to himfelf alone fas this author demands it Jhould be ;) that is, that every man Jhould be fuffer' d, quietly, and without the leaji molejiation, either to take no care at all of his foul, if he be fo pleafed; or in doing it, to follow his own groundlefs prejudices, or unaccountable humour, or any crafty feducer, whom he may think ft to take for his guide. Why fhould not the care of every man's foul be left to himfelf, rather than the magiftrate ? Is the magijirate like to be more concerned for it ? Is the magiltrate like to take more care of it ? Is 0^2 the Ii6 A SECOND LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION the magijirate commonly more careful of his own, than other men are of theirs? Will you fay the magijirate is lefs expofed in matters of reli- gion,.to prejudices, humours, and crafty feducers, than other men P If yiou can-' not lay your hand upon your heart, and fay all this, what then will be got by the change ? And why. may not the care of every man' s foul he left to him- felff Efpecially, if a man be in fo much danger to mifs the truth, who is ' ' fnff^^'^i quietly, and without the leaji molejiation, either to take no care' of his foul, if he befopleafed, or to follow his own prejudices, etc. ' For if want oi mdlefia- tion be the dangerous ftate, wherein men are likelieft to mifs the right way ; it muft be confefled, that of all men, the magiftrate is moft in danger to be in the wrong, and fo the unfitted, if you take the care of mens fouls fr^m them"' felves, of all men, to be intrufted with it. For he never meets with that great and only antidote of yours againft error, which you here call wo/^/Zo/zw, He never has the benefit of your fovereign remedy, punijhment, to make him^ confider; which you think £0 neceflary, that you look on ita&a mofl: dan- gerous ftate for men to be without it; and therefore tell us, 'tis eviry mdiis: true intereft, not to be left wholly to himfelfin matters of religion. ' ■ Thus, Sir, Ihave gone through your whole treatife, and as I think, haVe; omitted nothing in it material. If I have, I doubt not but I ftiall hear of it. And now I refer it to yourfelf, as well as to the judgment of the world, whe- ther the author of the letter, in faying no hody hath, aright; or you, in fay- ing, the -magiftrate hath aright to ufe force in^ matters of reKgion ; has moft = reafon. In the mean time, I leave this requeft with you : that if ever you write again, about the means of bringing fouls to fahation, which certainly is the beft defign any one can imploy his pen in, you would take care not to prejudice (o good a cauie, by ordering it fo, as to make it look as if you writ for a party. I am. Sir, > i 1 Your moft humble fervant. May 27, 1690 Philanthfopus , A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION *A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION TO THE AUTHOR. OF THE THIRD LETTER CONCERNING TOLERATION CHAPTER I Sir, The bufinefs which your Letter concerning Toleration found mei ingaged in, has taken up fon^uph of the tinie my health wduld allovsr ttie ever fince, that I doubt whether I ftiould now at all have troubled'you^or the World with ati anfwer, had hot fome of my friends, fufficiently fetisfied of the weaknefs of your arguments, with repeated inftances, perfuaded me it might be of ufe to truth in a point of fo great moment, to clear it from thpfe fallacies which might perhaps puzzle fome unwary readers ; and'therejEbre prevailed on me to ftiew the wrong grounds and niift^Tcen reafonings you make ufe of to fup- povt your new -way 6( per/£cuiton. Pardon me. Sir, that I ufe, that riame, which iypu are fo much offended at : for if puriifhment be pupifhment, though it come fhort of the difcipline of fire and faggot, it is as certain that punifhment for religion is truly perfecution, though it be only fuch punifh7 ment as you in yotir clemency tKihlf fit to call' moderate and convenient penal- ties. But liowever you pleafe to call' them, I doiibt not- b'uf to "let you fee, that if you will be true .to your own principles, . and, ftand to what you have faid, you mufl carry your fome degrees of forc^ as you phrafe it, to all tjiofe degrees which in w^brds ypu declare againft. , You have indeed in this lafi; lettbr of yours, 'filtered. the queflionj Sot page h.6, you tell hie the queflion between us, \^, whether the magijlrdte hath any right to ufe force to bring men to the /r«^ rt'/z^zo/i? 'Whereas you: yourfelf own the queflion to be, whether the magijlrate has a right to life force inmattersY. 76 of religion ? Whether this alteration be at all to the advantage of truth, or your caufe, we fliall fee. But hence you take bccafion all along to lay load on. me for charging you with the abfurdities of a power in the magiftrates to puniiTh men, to bring Ihem to their religion : whereas you here tell us they have a right to ufe force only to bring men to the true. 'But whether I were * The read«r may be pleafed to take notice, tba.t Jy. I. Staniis for the Letter concierning Tcdepatjiaji-. . A. For tlie Argument of tlie Letter concerning Teferatson-brkflycorrifidetfed -and aiifwered. L. IL The Second Letter concerning Toleration. P. The pages of the Third Letter concerning Toleration. more ' 120 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION more to blame to fuppofe you to talk coherently and mean fenfe, or you in expreffing yourfelf fo doubtfully and uncertainly, where you were concerned to be plain and diredt,_ I fhall leave to our readers to judge ; only here in the beginning, I fliall endeavour to clear myfelf of that imputation, I fo often meet Wiffi, oPeHaFgr^^S'yoii toftiequences you do hoi' ^wn, and arguing againft an.Qpinion t£a^ is nD|: yours, in thpfe places, vs^here I,fhe,w how, little advantage: it would be to truth, or the falvation of mens fouls, that all ma- giftrates fhould hav^e-^ right toru^^orce to bring men to imbrace their reli- gion. This I (hall do by proving, that if upon your grounds the magiftrate, as you pretend, treobhged-ta-trfHbrce-to-ijTing men to the true religion, it will necefTarily follow, thai every mftgiftrate, .who believes his religion to be true, is obliged to ufe force to bring "men to his. P. 31 You tell us, T&at by the law of nature the magiftrate is invejled with coaSlive power, ■ ariji oblig^ to. life it for all, the goodpurp^fes, which it might f^rve, and for which it Jhoulk be found needful, even for the refraining qffalfe and porrupt P- 35 religion :,9.nA that it ,i.s . t^e magiftrate's duty, toWihicli-he is commijiqhed by ■the law ofnaiure, tut the fcripture does not properly give it him. I fuppofe you will grant me, that any thing laid upon the magiftrate as a duty, is fome way or other practicable. Now the ma:ijif ate being obliged to ufe force in matters of religion, but yet fo as to bring men only to the true religion, he will not be in any capacity to perform this part of his dul:y, unlefs the; religion he is thus to promote, be what he can certainly know, or elfe what it is fufficient for him to believe to be the true : either his knowledge or his opinion muft point out that religion to him, which he hhy force to promote; or elfe. he may promifcuoufly and indifferently pro- mote any religion, and punifh, men at a venture, to bring them from that they are in, to any other. This laft I think no body has been fo wild as to fay. If therefore it muft be either his knowledge orhisperfuafion that muft guide the magiftrate herein, and keep him within the bounds of his duty ; if the raagiftrates of the world cannot know, certainly know the true reli- gion, to be the true religion, but it be of a nature -to exercife their faith; (for \yhere vifion, knowledge and certainty is, there faith is done away,) then that which gives them the laft determination herein, muft be their own belief, their own perfuafion. To you and me the Chriftian religion is the true, and that is built, to mention no other articles of it, on this, that Jefus Chrift was put to death at Jerufalem, and rofe again from the dead. Now do you or I know this ? I 'dt9 not aft: with what afTurance we believe it, for that in the higheft degree not being knowledge, is .not what we now inquire after. Can any magif- trate demonftrate to himfelf, and if he can to himfelf, he does ill not to do it to others, not only all the articles of his church, but the fundamental ones of the Chriftian religion ? For whatever is not capable of demonftration, as fuch remote matters of fad: are not, is not, unlefs it be felfrcvident, capable to produce knowledge, how well grounded and great fopver the afTurance of faith may be wherewith it is received ; but faith it is ftill, and not A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION not knowledge; perfuafion(, and not certainty. This is the higheft the nature of the thing will permit us to go in matters of revealed religion, which are therefore called matters of faith : a perfuafion of our own minds, fliort of knowledge, is the laft refult that determines us in fuch truths. It is all God requires in the Goipel for men to be faved : and it would be ftrange if there were more required of the magiftrate for the diredlion of another in the way to falvation, than is required of him for his own falvation; Knowledge then, properly fb called, not being to be had of the truths ne- ceiTary to falvation, the magiftrate muft be content with faith and perfuafion for the rule of that truth he will recommend and inforce upon others ; as well as of that whereon he will venture his own eternal condition. If therefore it be the magiftrates duty to ufe force to bringmen to the true religion, it can be only to that religion which he believes to be true : fo that if force be "at all to be ufed by the magiftrate in matters of religion,^ it can only be for xht promot>- ing that religion which he only believes to be true, or none at all. I grant that a ftrong aflurance of any truth fettled upon prevalent and well-grounded arguments of probability, is often called knowledge in popular ways of talk- ing : but being here to diftinguifli between knowledge and belief, to what degrees of confidence foever raifed, their boundaries muft be kept, and their names hot confounded. I know not vvhat greater pledge a man can give of a full perfijafion of the truth of any thing, than his venturing his foul upon it, as he does,' who fincerely imbraces any religion, and receives it for true. But to what degree foever of afiTurance his faith may rife, it ftill comes ihort of knowledge. Nor can anyone now, I think, arrive to greater evidence of the truth of the Chriftian religion, than the firft converts in the time of our Sa- viour and the apoftles had ; of whom yet nothing more was required but to believe, . ■ • * But fuppofing all the truths of -the Chriftian religion neceflary to falvation could be fo known to the magiftrate, that in his ufe of force for the bringing ^ men to imbrace thefe, he could be guided by infallible certainty ; yet I fear this would not ferve your turn, nor authorize the magiftrate to ufe force to bring men in England, or any where elfe, into the communion of the na- tional church, in vifhich ceremomes of human inftitution were impofed, which could not be known, nor, being confefTed things in their own nature indifferent, fo much as thought neceffary to falvation. But of this I fjiall have occafion to fpeak in another place : all the ufe I make of it here, is to fhew, that the crofs in baptifm, kneeling at the fa- crament, and fuch like things, being impoffible to be known neceflary to falvation, a certain knowledge of the truth of the Articles of faith of any churchi could not authorize the- magiftrate to compel men to imbrace the communion of that church, wherein any thing were made neceflfary to com- munion, which he did not know was neceflary to falvation. By what has been already faid, I fuppofe it is evident, that if the magiftrate be to ufe force only for ^lovtxotvng the true religion, he can have no other ^guide^but his own perfuafion of what is the true religion, and muft be led by ' that in his ufe of force, or elfe not ufe it at all in matters of religion. If you R take A THIRD LETTE51 FOR TOLERATION take the latter of thefe ebnfeguences, you and I are agreed : if Ae fbl-mer, you muft allow all magiftraies, of whatfoever religion, the ufe of force to bring men to theirs, and fo be involved in all thofe.ill confequehces which you cannot it feems admit, an J hoped to decline by your ufelefs diftinS:ion offeree to be ufed, not for any, but for the true religion. 'fjfis the dutyy you fay, of the magifirate to ufe force fir prdmcftmg th6 true religion. And in feveral pkee^ you tell us, he is obliged to it. Perfuade ma* giftrates in general of this, and then tell me how any tftftgifti^e Siall be f e- ftrained from the ufe of force, for the proMnoting what he thinks to be the true ? For he being perfuaded that it is his dttty to ufe force to ptoftidte the true religion, and being alfo perfuaded his is the true religion, what Ihall flop his hand ? Muft he forbear the ufe of force till he be got beyond ht- ■lieving, into a certain knowledge thatali he requires men to imbtaee, is n'e- eeffary to falvation ? If tha^ be it you willftahd to, you have my corifent, and I think there will be no need of any otbet Toleration. But if the b-q- lieving his religion to be the true, be fiifficiefit fbrthe tnagiftrate to ufe force for the promoting of it, will it be fb only to the magiflrates of the religion that you profefs ? And mufl: all other magiftrates fit flill, and not do their duty till they have your pernSifiaon ? If it be your magiftrate's duty to ufe force for the promoting the religion he believes to be the true, it will be every magiftrate's duty to ufe force for the promoting #hat he believes to be the true, and he fins if he does not receive and promote it as if it were true. Jf you will not take this upon my Word, yet I defire yott to do it upon the flrong reafoft of a very judicious and reverend prelate [Dr. John Sharp, archbiftiDp of To'^,'] of the prefent ehurch oiEn^md. In A d^cottrfe con^ cefnmg conjcience^ printed in quarto, 1687, p. 18, you will find thefe fol- lowing word^ and much more to this purpofe : Where a man is mijhtien in birjudgntekt, even in that cufe it is al'ways*a fin t^ aSi agdinji it. 'T-htitigh ive fhould take that for a duty which is really afiny yetfo long as we are thus per- fuaded, it nioill be highly criminal in us to ^£i in coHtf-adi&ien to this perflafim : and the reafon of this is evident, becaufe by fo dohg, we wilf^Jly aSi opttAJi the 4eji light which at prefent we hape for the Mre&^on of our aSlions. So that when all is done, the immediate guide of our aBims can be nothing but our con- Jciince, our judgment and perfuafon. If a man, for inftance, Jhould'of a Jew become a Chrifian, whilji yet in his heart he -believed that the Mejiah is not •jet come, and that our Lord fefus was an impofor: or if a Papifl Jhould renounce the communion of the Roman church, and joy n with ours, whilji yet he is perjitaded that the Roman church is the only catholic church, and that our reformed churches are heretical or fchijmatical ; though now there is none of us that will deny that the men in both thefe cafes have made a good change, as having changed afalfe reli- gion for a true one, yet far all that 1 dare fay wefliould all agree they were both of them great mllains for making that change, beccmfe they made it mt upon ho- neft principles, andinpurfuarice of their judgment, but in direB contradiWm to both. So that it being the magifirate's duty to ufe force to bring men to the true religion', and he being perfuaded his is the true, I fuppofe you will no longer queftion but that he is as much obliged to tife force to bring men to it, as A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 123:3 as if It were the true. And then, Sir, I hopig you have too much refped for magiftrates, not to allow them to believe the religions to be true which they profefe. Thefe things^put together, Ideiire you to confider whether ifma- giflr4tes are obliged to life force to bring men to the true religion^ every magiftrate is not obliged to ufe force" to bring men to that religion he believes to be true ? This b^ng fo, I hope I have not argued fo wholly befide the purpofe, as you all through your letter accufe me, for charging on your dodlrine all the ill confequences, all the prejudice it would be to the true religion, that ma- gUlrates fhould have power, to ufe force to bring mep to their religions : and I prefume you will think yourfelf concerned to give to all tbefe places in the Jirfi^ and ficond letter concerning Toleration, which fhew the inconveniencies and abfurdities of fuch an ufe of force, fome other anfwer, than that you are P. 24 for p^nifliing mly JUch as rejeB the true religion. That 'tis plain the force you fp€ak of is not force, my way applied, i. Q. applied to the promoting the true re- Jigien only, but to the promoting all the national religions in. the world. And P. 29 again, to my arguing that force your way applied, if it can propagate any religion, it is likelier to be the falfe than the true, becaufe few of the ma- giftrates of the world are in the right way. You reply. This nsoouldh^e been to the purpofe, ^you had ajferted that every magifirate may ufe force your inc^- reB 'may (or any way) to bring men to his own religion, wh^teiper that be. Buf if you afiarted nofmh thing, fas no man y who dofo, give the people up in every country to the coadtive force of the magiftrate to be employed for the djjijiing the minifiers of his religion:, and king Lewis of good right comes in with his dragoons j for it is not much doubted that he as ftrongly believed his popifh priefts and Jefuits to be the ininijiry which our Lord appointed, as either king Charles or king 'James the Second believed that of the church of England to be fo. And of what ufe fuch an exercife of the coaftive power of all magiftrates, is to the people, or to the true religion, you are concerned to {hew. But it is, you know, but to tell me, lonly trifle, and this is all anfwered. What in other places you tell us, is to make men hear, conJider,Jludy, im- hrace, and bring men to the true religion, you here do very well to tell us is to af^Ji the minijiry : and to that it is true, common experience difcavers the ma- gijirate's coa^ive force to be ufeful and neceJJ'dry, viz. to thofe who taking the reward, but not over-bufying themfelves in the care of fouls, find it for their eafe, that the magiftrates coadtive power fhould fupply their want of paftoral care, and be made ufe of to bring thofe into an outward conformity to the national church, whom either for want of ability, they cannot, or want of due and friendly application, joined with an exemplary life, they never fo much as endeavoured to prevail on heartily to imbrace it. That" there may be fuch negledts in the beft-conftituted national church in the world, the complaints of a very knowing bifliop of our church, [Dr. Gilbert Burnet, bi- fhop of Salijbury,'\ in a late difcourfe of the pastoral care, is too plain an evidence. Without fo-great an authority I fliould fcarcehave ventured, though it^lay juft in my way, to have taken notice of what is fo vifible, that it is in every one's mouth, for fear you fhould have told me again, that I made myfelfan oc- cajion to Jhew my good will toward the clergy. For you will not, I fuppofe, fulpedl that eminent prelate to have any ill will to them. If this were not fo, that fome were negligent, I imagine the preachers of the true religion, which lies, as you tell us, ib obvious and expofed, as to be eafily diftinguifhed from the falfe, would need or defire no other affiftance from the mdgijirates coaSlive power, but what fhould be diredled againft the irregularity of mens lives ; their lujis being that alone, as you tell as, that -makes force neceflary to afltft the true religion j which, were it not for our depraved nature, would by its light, and reafonablenefs have the advantage againft all falfe religions. You tell us too, that the magiftrate may imppfe creeds and ceremonies ; - in- deed you (zy found creeds, and decent ceremonies, but that helps not your caufe: for who muft be judge of th^it found, and that decent f If the impofer, then thofe words fignify nothing at all, but that the magiftrate may , impofe thofe creeds and ceremonies which he \MmksJ^nd and decent, which is in effedt fuch A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION fuch as he thinks fit. Indeed you telling us a littl6 above, in the famf page, that it is 9. vice not to worjhip God in ways prefcrihed by thofe to whom Cod has left ths ordering of fuch matters ; you feem to make other judges of what hfoMud and decent^ arwi the magiftrate but the executor of their de- crees, with the qffiftan,ce of his omSiive power. A pretty foundation to efta* bliih creeds and ceremonies on, that God has left the ordering of them to ihofe who cannot wder theni ! But ftill the fame difficulty returns j for af-* ter they \x2,yfc prefbribed, muft the magrfirate judge them to be^«Wand de- cent y or muft he inipofe them, though he judge them not found ov decent f. if he muft ju4ge them fo himfeif, we are but where we were : if he muft impofe them when prefcribed, though he judge them Ti,ot found nor decent, it is a pretty fort of drudgery is p»t on the magiftrate. And how far is this ihort of implicit faith ? But if he muft not judge what h found and decenf^ he muft judge at leaft who are thofe to whom God has left the ordering of fuck matters ; and then the king of France is ready again with his dragoons for the found dodrine, and decent ceremonies of his prefcribers in the council of Trentt and that upon this ground, with as good right as any other has for the prefcriptions of any others. Do not miftake me again, Sir j I do not fay, he judges as right j but t do fay, that whilft he judges the council of 'Trent, or the clergy of Rome to be thofe to whom God has left the ordering qf thofe mat-: ters, he has as much right to follow their decrees, as any other to follow the judgment of any other fet of mortal men whom he believes to be fo. Biit whoever is to be judge of what \% found or decent in the cafe, I aik. Of what^ and neceffity is it to impofe creeds and ceremonies ? for that fCe and t^ecejtty is all the commiffion you can find the magiftrate hath to ufe is CQa(^ive power to impofe them. I. Of what ufe and neceflity is it among Chriftians that own the Scripture to be the word of God and rule of faith, to make and impofe a creed ? What commiffion for this hath the magiftrate from the law of nature ? God hath, given a revdation that contains in it all things neceifary to falvation, and of this his people are all perfuaded. What neeeffity now is there ? How does their good require it, that the magiftrate ffiould fingle out, as he thinks fit, any number of thofe truths as more -neceflary to falvation than the reft, li God himfelf has not done it ? But next, are thefe creeds in the words of the. Scripture, or not ? If they are, they are cettsinly found, as containing nothing but truth in them : and fo they were before, as they lay in the Scripture. But thus though they contain nothing but found truths, yet they may be imperfedt, and fo unfound rules of faith, Unce they may require more or lefs than God requires to be believed as necejirary to falvation. For what greater neeeffity, I pray, is there that a man ihould believe that Chrift fuffered under Pontius Pilate, than that he was born at Bethlehem oi Judah i Both are certainly true, and no Chriftian doubts qf either : but how comes one to be made an article of faith, and impofed by the magiftrate as neceffary to falvation, for otherwife there can be no ne-. iceility of impofition, and the oth^r not ? Do A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 12^ Do not miftake me here, as if I wouldlay by that fuimmary of the Chriftian religion* which is contained in that which ds called the Apoftles creed ; which though no body, who examines th© matter, will have reafon to conclude of the ApofUes compiling, yet is certainly of reverend antiqui- ty, and ought ftill to be preferved in the church. I mention it not to argue againft it, but againft your impofition, and to fliew that even that creed, though of that antiquity, though it contain in it all the creienda neceffary to falvation, cannot yet upon your principles be impofed by the coercive power »f the fnagifir^e, who even by the commiffibn you have found out for him, can life his force for nothing but what is abfolutely neceffary to falvation. But if the creed to be impofed be not in the words of divine revelation ^ then it is in plainer, more clear and intelligible expi*effion«, or not : If no plainer, what neceffity of changing thofe, which men infpired by the Holy Ghoft made ufe of ? If you fay, they are plainer j then they explain and de- termine the fenfe of fome obfcufe and dubious places of Scripture, which explication not being of divine revelation, though found toone man, may be unfound to another, and cannot be impofed as truths necelfiiry to falvation. Befides that, this deftroys what you tell us of the e^iaufmfi of all truths ?• 29 neceffary t to Mvation. And as to rites and ceremonies, are there any neceffary to felvation, which Cbrift has not inftituted ? If not, how can the magiiirate impof& them ? What commiflion has be from the care he ought to have Ji^or thefah •vation of mens fouls, to ufe his coaSlive force for the eftablifhment of any new ones which our Lord and Saviour, with due reverence be it ^ken, had forgotten ? He inftituted two rites in his church ; can any one add pny new one to them ? Chrift commanded fimply to baptise into the name of the fa- ther, the Son, and the Holy Ghoft; but the figning of thecrofs, how came that neceffary ? Human authority which is neceffary h s§ifi the truth againji the corri^tion of human nature, has made it fo. But it is a decent ceremony. I aik, is it fo decent that the adminlftration of ba^tifm, fimply, as our Sa- viour inftituted, would be indecent without it ? If not, then there is no reafon to impofe it for decency's fake ; for there can be no reafi»i to alter or add any thing to the inftitution of Chrift, or introduce any ceremony or circumftance into religion for decency, where the aftioil would, be decent without it. The command to do ail things decently, and in order, gave no •authority to asdd to Ghrift's iaftitution any new ceremony, it oftly prefcribed the manner how, what was neceffa'ry to be done in the coftgregatioa, ihould be there done, viz. after fuch a manner, that if it were omitted, there would -appear fome indecency, whereof the congregation or colleftive body wgs to be judge, for to them that rule was given : And if that rule go beyond what I have faid, and gives power to men to introduce into religious worfliip whatever they ihall think decent, and impofe the ofe ©f it j I do not fee hov/ the greateft part of the infinite ceremonies of the church of Rome covli be complained of, or refufed, if introduced into another church, and there impofed by the magiftrafe. But if iiich a power were given to the ma- giftrate, that whatever he thought a decent ceremony ^ he .might de novo: im-. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION pofe, he would need fome exprefs commiffion from God in Scripture, fince the commiffion you fay he has from the law of nature, will never give him a power to inftitute new ceremonies in the chriftian religion, which, be they decent, or what they will, can never be neceflary to falvation. The Gc^fpel was to be preached in their affemblies j the rule then was, that the habit, gefture, voice, language, etc. o? the preacher, for thefe were neceflary circumftances of the aftion, (hould have nothing ridiculous or indecent in it. Thepraifes of God were to be fung; it mufb be then in fuch poftures and tunes as became the folemnity of that aftion. And fb a convert was to be baptized, Chrift inftituted the effential part of that aftion, which was wafliing with water into the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghoft; in which care was alfo to be had, that in the doing this nothing fhould be omitted that preferved a decency in all the circumftances of the ailion. But no body will fay, that if the crofs were omitted, that upon that account there would be any thing indecent in baptifm. W^hat is to be done in the affemblies of Chriftians, for the falvation of fouls, is.fufficiently prefcribed in Scripture : But fince the circumftances of the ajSions were fo various, and might in feveral countries and ages have dif- ferent appearances, as that appears decent in one country which is quite contrary in another, concerning them there could be no other rule given than what is, viz. deceptly, in order., gnd to edification; and in avoiding inde- ^ cencieSj and not adding any new ceremonies, how decent foever, this rule confifts. I judge no man in the ufe of the crofs in baptifm. The Impofition of that, or any other ceremony not inftituted by Chrift himfelf, is what I argue againft, and fay, is more than you upon your principles can make good. Common ienfe has fatisfied all mankind, that it is above their reach to determine what things in their own nature indifferent, were fit to be made ufe of in religion, and would be acceptable to the fuperior beings iu their worfhip, and therefore they have every where thought it neceffary to derive that knowledge from the immediate will and didiates of the gods themfelves, ' and have taught that their forms of religion, and outward modes of wor^ fhip were founded upon revelation, no body daring to do fo abfurd and in- folent a thing, as to take upon him to prefume with himfelf, or to prefcribe toothers by his own authority which fhould in thefe indifferent and mean things be worthy of the Deity, and make an acceptable part of his worftiip. Indeed they all agreed in the duties of natural religion, and we find them by common confent owning that piety and virtue, thatclean hands, and a pure heart not polluted with the breaches of the law of nature was the beft wor- fhip of the gods. Reafon difcovered to them that a good life was the moft* acceptable thing to the Deity; this the common light of nature put paft doubt. But for their, ceremonies and outward performances, for them they appeal always to a rule received from the immediate diredion of the fuperior powers themfelves, where they made ufe, and had need of revelation. A plain confeffion of mankind that in thefe things we have neither knowledge todifcern, nor authority to prefcribe : That men cannot by, their own ikill find I A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 129 t find out what is fit, or by their own power make any thing worthy to be a part of religious worfhip. It is not for them to invent or impofe ceremonies that ftiall recommend men to the Deity. It was fo obvious and vifible, that it became men to have leave from God himfdf, before they dared to offer - 'to the divine majefty any of thefe trifling, mean, and to him ufelefs things, as a grateful and valuable part of his worfhip, that no body any where amongft the various and ftrange religions they led men into, bid fuch open defiance to common fenfe, and the reafon of all mankind, as to prefume to do it without vouching the appointment of God himfelf. Plato, who of all the heathens, feems to have had the moft ferious thoughts about religion, fays that the magiftrate, or whoever has any fenfe, will never introduce of his own head any new rites into his religion, for which he gives this con- vincing reafon ; for, fays he, he muji know it is impojjible for human ifuture to know any thing certainly concerning thefe matters. Epinom. poft medium. It cannot therefore but be matter of aftonifhment, that any who call them- felves Chriftians, who have fo fure, and fo full a revelation, which declares all the counfel of God concerning the way of attaining eternal falvation, fhould dare by their own authority to add any thing to what is therein pre- fcribed, and impofe it on others as a neceffary part of religious worfhip, without the observance of which human inventions, men fhall not be per- mitted the public worfliip of God. If thofe rites and ceremonies prefcribed to the Jews by God himfelf, and -delivered at the fame time, and by the fame hand to the Jews that the moral law was, were called beggarly ele- ments under the gofpel, and laid by as ufelefs and. burthenfome, what fhall we call thofe rites which have no other foundation, but the will and autho- rity of men, and of men very often, who have not much thought of the pu- rity of religion, and pradifed it lefs ? Becaufe you think your argument for the magiflrate's right to ufe force has not had its due confideration j I fhall here fet it down in your own words, as it ftands, and endeavour to give you fatisfadtion to it. You fay there, J)^ A. p. 16 fuch a degree of outward force as has been mentioned, be of great and even ne- ceffary ufe, for the advancing thofe ends, (as taking the world as we find it, I think it appears to be,), then it muft be acknowledged that there is a right fome^ where to ufe it for the advancing thofe ends, unlefs we will fay f what without impiety cannot be faidj that the wife and benign difpofer and governoY of all things has not furnijhed mankind with competent means for the promoting his own honour in the world, and the good of fouls. And if there be fuch a right fome- where, where Jhould it be, but where the power of compelling refides ? That is principally, and in reference to the public in the civil fovereign. Which words, if they have any argument in them, it in fhort flands thus. Force is ufeful and necejfary : The good and wife God, who without impiety cannot be fuppoled not to \i2iV& furnijhed men with competent means for their falva- tion, has therefore given a right to fome men to ufe it, and thofe men are the civil fovereigns. To make this argument of any ufe to your purpofe, you mufl fpeak a little more diflindtty, for here you, according to your laudable and fafe way S of A THIRDt LETTEJl F/OR f (5LE:|l.ATI'ON. of writiag, a,re y^^pped up ia th? uncertain^ of ^i^aj^ tej?nfxsi^ anid snuft tell us, ' ti:gfi(Je,s" thp.eii4 % W%h,i|t i5 ufeful apd m^S^% tQ whp.m i| ia ufefui and neceffary^. Is it «/£/l!/«¥^Ke<:Q(fi??f/t9, jJilmfa wiU not fay, fojc maay are brought tp, irnVfaqe tljie true r^digi^ by, b^F^ p^a?ii«g, without any force. Ij^ it then n^ec^ff^ry ta'^tH^e,,_^i^ tfl^ Qply, who,. a^s.you tey ua, rye^ the tiiue,r^ligion tendred'wkkS^Mf^k^'i^'^i^dm^Si ois <^t kafi. fofar. tnanifefi^d to, them> a^ to oblige theni to, recehe k,, and ^km^^tym mth- out excufi if'^hey do n(^tl To, all t^ierefore, vi]s^ rei,$g ^ tsu© ©^ioa fp, tendered, are without e}i;cu(e,, yov^^. tfyjd^i^ej^^e is uj^^ mikmcej^arf. But is i,^ to, a,ll thoife, compeienty i. Q^.fuffiqienJi mm^-'^ T&att, it is.e«il^UL' ihi mattei: of fka, it is not ; for afi^^ ^, "Ji^ny- ^%n4 out. I^ w lifce you. will fay, which is. all you haye ^ofay, that t^cv;^ aife fij?b, to whonj, liaving re-, fjfted tl;^is laft in^eaas, ^qdienat^ force, God a^lw^s. refijfeth^ |yiS gif^e^, to, withn. out whiph np. i:^ans, i,s efficacious. Sa that y^ouF qw^fiV^ *t" i*ft» ^^ ^^s^S^^ fu);li means, a^ are the utmoft th,at God has agj^^tp^,^, SHjd \«ill: have, ufed, ajjd wh^cb vyhen men r^fift, they ^re witho;Uit f^ijft, ai»d flaall aever aftec have^thp affiftanqe ojf his gra^e to bring them \Q/^kflt tiKufkthy^fhmi&r^eid, and fo be, as th^e Apoftlfr \\ %i^. iii, 8, c^USjfecjb-,. mm^of CQrvv^ mink>, reprobate concerning ^h^efqith. If then it fhaj^ be* tfe%t the (|s^ of grace fliall be oyer to, all thpfe who, r-ejeSt, the. truth ma^lfefifid to ^§^n», with inch evi-s dcnce, asjeaves them, without- excufe, ^pd that b^ar^ |jq§SQhing ai;id exhorta-= tj^OiO Qjall be accordmg to; th^ goo4 ^gaf^Gt t)f tfe?i bjeni^n difpofer of al things, enough, when negle(ft?d, toi t^i^^ their hearts faX, tbim ears, hemiy^ qndjhut their eyes that theyjhoi^ld not: perceive nor underjiandj nor be converted x!iy3X God Jhould heal thejtf. I fay, if thisjC^ould. be the eafe^ thf n. youryorc^', ^yhatevfr you imagine of it, will neither \ip. QPWft^Wii^ ufeful, nfiv neceffaryi. So that it will reft upon you to prove that y^uf.midir^t^, degrees, of fiarce are thofe meaus of grace which Goj^^ ^y,iJ■^ l^gyfi, as necefl^ry to fajvation, tried upoji every one before he will pa^^ that ^pten^ip, Ifaiah, Make^ hh hatrntfai, etc. and that your degree of moderate ^^^is |l|iat beyond, which God will hav.e no other or more powerful means '^fei^ but that thofe whom that YorJss not upon, fhall be left reprobate concerning faith. Andti^U you have proved this, you will in ,yain pretend your mo^erat^ force, whatever you. might think of it> if you, had the ordering of that matter, i^ the place of God, to be ifeful, neceffary, and competent means. For if preaching, exhortation, inftruAion, etc. as feems by the. whole current of the Scrip.->. ture, and it appears not that Ifqi^ in the place above-cited, made thein hearts^ fat with any thing but his; words, be that mgans^ which when rejected to fuch, a degree, as he fees fit, God will puijifh witka r^^ro^fl^emind, and that there be no other means of grace to come after j. you muft confefsj that whateyer good opinion you haye of your moderate force after this fentence is palTed, i% c^n.do no good, have no effieaQy neither direSily nor indineSly^ and at a dijiance, towards the bf #^ipg men to th^ truth. If your moderate force be not that precife utmoft means of grace, which* when,inefFe<9:u^l, God will not afford his grace to; any other, then ycHin mo- derate forpe is not thie competent m?ms you talk of. This therefore yoa muft prove. A tftiRD LteTtiR ton Tt)l6RAf roi^ ^'rove, that preaching albnib is fidt, but that your moderate force joined to it, is that means of grace, Which when ne^edted or refifted, God will aflift no other means with hiis gt"ac:e to bring tiien into th6 obedience of the truth ; and this let me tell you, you tftuft prove by revelation. For it is iihpoflibre to kriow, but by revelation, the juft meafures of Gold's long-fuffering, and what thofe means are, which when men's cdrrdptiofts have rendred ineffec- tual, his fpirit fhall no longer flrive with them, nor his grace affift any other means for their converfion or fklvatioil. When you have done this, there will be fome ground foi: you to talk of ydiir moderate force, as the means which God's wifddm and goodnefs is engaged to furriifh men vi^ith ; but to fpeak bf it, as you do now, as if it were that both neceffafy and competent inbans, that it vtrbuld be an irhjJtitation tothe wifdom arid goodnefs bf God, if men were not furniftied wim it, when it is evident, that the greafelt: part of mSfikind have always been deflitute of it, will I fear be not eafily cleared from that impiety yoti mentioii; for though the magiftrate had the ri'gkt to ufe it, yet where-ever that ifioderdie force was not made life bf, there meii tV^re not furnifhed v^^ith your ca^pit^nf means of falvatioh. It is necdfary for thd vindication of God's juflice and goodnefs, that thofe who rfiifcarry fhbdld do fb by their o^ri fault, that their deflrudtion (hbuld be from fheJfhffelves, and they be left inexcufable : But pray how will you fhew lis, that it " is rifecefTary, that ahy who have refifted the truth tendered to them only by {ifeaching, fhould be faved, any more than it is neceffary that thbfe vvho have refifled the truth when moderate force has been joined to the fafne preachirig, fhould be favfed ? They are inexcufable one as well as the othery ahd thereby have incurred the wrath bf God, under which he may jufVly leav6 the one as well as the other j and therefore he cannot be faid not to have been furnifhed With competent nieans bf falvation, who having rejed:ed the truth preached to hitti, has never any penalties laid on him by the magiflrate to make hitti confider the truths he before rejeded. All the flrefs of ybur hypothejis for the rieceflity bf force, lies on this. That thfe majority of mankind are not prevailed bnby preaching, and there- fore the goodnefs and wifdom of God is obliged to furnifh them with fome more efFedtual means, as ybti thirik. But who told you that the majority of mankind fhbuld ever be brought into the ftrait way, and narrow gate ? Or that force in your moderate degree was the neceff'ary and competent, i. e. the jufl fit means to do it, neither bver nor under, but that that only, and nothing but that could do it ? If to vindicate his wifdom aiid goodnefs God . mufl furnifh mankind vvith othei* means, as long as the majority, yet un- "wrotight upon, fhall give any forward demander occafion to aife. What o-ther means is there left ? He muft alfo after your moderate penalties have left the greater part of mankind unprevailed oh, be bound to furnifh mankind with higher degrees of force upon this man's demand : arid thbfe degrees of force provirig ineffedtual to the majority tamake them truly and fincerely Chrifcians, God muft'bfe bound to furnifh the world again with a new fupply of mira- cles upon the demand bf another wife contrbuler, -who having fet his heart upon miracles, as you haveybUfs on force, will demand, what other means is " S 2 there. 132 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION there left but miracles ? For it is like this laft gentleman would take it very much amifs of you, if you fhould not allow this to be a good and unqueft- "ionable way of arguing ; or if you ihould deny that after the utmoft force had been ufed, miracles might not do Jbme fervice dt leaft, indire^ly and af a diftance, towards the bringing men to imbraee the truth. And if you can-» not /irfl-u^ that miracles may not thus do fome fervice, he will conclude juft as you do, that the caufe is his. Let us try your method a little farther. Suppofe that when neither the gentleji admonitions, nor tbemoji earneji intreaties •will prevail, fomething elfe is to be done as the only means left. What is it muft be done ? What is this P, 10 neceffary competent means that you tell us of? It is to lay briars and thorns in their ivay. This therefore being fuppofed neceffary, you fay, there mujl. fomewhere be a right to ufe it. Let it be fo. Suppofe , I tell you that right is in God, who certainly has a power to lay briars and thorns in the way of thofe who are got into a wrong one, whenever he is gracioufly pleafed that other means befides inftrudions and admonitions fhould be ufed to reduce them. And we may as well expedi that thofe thorns and briars laid in their way by God's providence, without telling them for what end, fhould work upon them as effedtually, though indireSllyy and at a dijiance, as thofe laid in their way by the magifirate, without telling them for what end. God alone knows where it is neceffary, and on whom it will be ufeful> which no .man being capable of knowing, no man, though he has coercive power in his hand, can be fuppofed to be authorized to ufe it by the commifHon he has to do, good, on whpmfoever you fhall judge it to he. of great and even neceffary ufe : No more than your judging it to be of great and even neceffary ufe, would authorize any one who had got one of the incifion-kniyes of the hofpital in his hand, to cut thofe for, the flone with it, whom he could not know iieeded cutting, or that cutting would, do them any good, when the mafler of the hofpital had given him no exprefs order to ufe his incifion- knife in that operation; nor was it known to any but the mafler, who needed, and on whoni it .would be ufeful j nor would, he fail to ufe it himfelf wherever he found it neceffary. Be force of as great and neceffary ufe as you pleafe j let it be fp the compe- tent means for the promoting the honour of God in the world, and the good of fouls, th2X the right to I fe it ranii-x\QCQS&.n\y be fomewhere. This r/^i)/ can- not pofljbly be, where you would have it, in the civil fovereigns, and that for the very reafon you give, viz. becaufe it muft be where the power of compfJling rejides. Forfince civil fovereigns cannot compel themfelves, nor can the compelling power of one civil fovereign reach another civil fovereign.,. it will not in the hands of the civil fovereigns reach the moft confiderable part of mankind,, and thofe who both for their own and their fubjedts good, have moft need of it. Befides, if it go along with the pow^r of compelling,, it muft be in the hands of ^\ civil fovereigns alike: which, by this„ as well as feveral other realbns I have given, being unavoidable to be fo, this right, will be fo far from ufeful^ that whatever efficacy force has, it will be im- ployed to the doing more harm than good ; fince the greateft part of civil fovereigns A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 133 fonjereigns being of falfe religions, force will be imployed for the promoting of thofe. But let us grant what you can never prove, that though all cwil fovereigns have compelling power, yet only thofe of the true religion have a right to ufe force in matters of religion : your own argument of mankind being unfur- nijhed, which is impiety to fay, with competent means far the promoting the- honour of God, and the good of fouls., ftill prefles you. For the compelling power oi C2ich. civil fovereign not reaching beyond his own dominions, t he- right of ufng force in the hands only of the orthodox civil fovereigns, leaves the reft, which is the far greater part of the world, deftitute of this your ne- ceffary and competent means for promoting the honour of God in the world, and the good of fouls. Sir, I return you my thanks for having given me this occafion to take a review of your argument, which you told me I had miftakcn ; which I hope I now have not, and have anfwered to your fatisfadion. I confefs I miftook when I faid that cutting being judged ufeful, could not authorize even a fkilful furgeon to cut a man without any farther commiffion r for it fhould have been thus ; that though a man has the inftruments in Yds hand, and force enough to cut with, and cutting be judged by you of great and even necejfary ufe in the ftone ; yet this, without any farther commif- fion, will not authorize any one to ufe his ftrength and knife in .cutting, who knows not who has the ftone, nor has any light or meafures to judge to whom cutting may be neceffary or-ufeful. But let us fee what you fay in anfwer to my inftance : i. 'That thejione?- 53 does not always kill, though it be not cured ; but men do often live to a great age with it, and die at lafi of other dijiempers. But averfion to the true religion is certainly and inevitably mortal to the foul, if not cured, andfo of abfolute necef fity to be cured. Is it of abfolute neceffity to be cured in alii If fo, will you not here again think it requifite that the wife and benign DiJ^ofer and Go- vernor of all things, fhould fiirnijh competent means for what is of abfolute necefjity ? For will it not be impiety to fay, that God hath left mani^ind un- furnijhed of competent, i. e. fuficient ineans for what is abfolutely necejfary ? For it is plain in your account men have not been furnished with Jufficient means for what is of abfolute necefjity to be cured in all, if in any of them it be left uncured. For as you allow none to htfufficient evidence, but what P. 51 certainly gains aflfent ; fo by the fame rule you cannot call that fufficient- means which does not work the cure. It is in vain to fay, the means were fufficient, had it not been for their own fault, when that fault of theira is the very thing to be cured. You go on ; and yet if we jhould fuppofe the ftone as:?. 52 certainly deJiruSiive of this temporal life, as that averfion is of mms eternal fal- ' vation : even fi the neceffity of curing it would be as much lefs than the neceffity of curing that averfon, as this temporal life falls Jhort in value cf that which- is. eternal. This is built upon a fuppofition, that the neceffity of the means is increafed by the value of the end, which being in this cafe the falvation of mens fouls, that is of infinite concernment to- them, you conclude falvation ahfoktely necejfary: which makes you fay that averfion^ etc. being inevitably ^ martai 134 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION mortal to the foul, is o{ abfolute nece/jity to be cured. Nothing is (f dbfok^ necejjity but God : whatfoever elfe can be faid to be of necejityy is fo only rektively in refped to fomethi-ng elfe ; and therefore nothing can indefi- nitely thus be faid to be of abfikte neceffity^ where the thing it relates to is not abfolutely neceffary. We may fay, wifdom and power in God are atfo'^ lutely neceffary, becaufe God himfelf is abfohitely neceffary : but we cannot crudely fay, the curing in men their averfion to the true religion, is izbjblutely necefary, becaufe it is not abfolutely neceffary that men fliould be faved. Btit this is very proper and true to be faid) that curing this averjion is abjhUtefy neceffary in all that (hall be faved. But I fear that would not ferve your turn, though it be certain, that your abjblute neceffity in this cafe reaches no farther than this, that to be cured of this averjion is abfolutely neceffary to fal-. vation, and falvation is abfolutely neceflary to iiasppinefs ; but neither of. them, nor the happinefs itfelf of any man can be faid to be abfolutely^ neceffary. This miftake makes you fay, that fuppofing thefione certainly deflruBive of this temporal life, yet the neceffity of curing it would be as much lefs than the ne-' ceffity of curing that a'Oerffon, as this temporal life falls fbort in value of that 'Which is eternal. Which is quite otherwife : for if the ftone will certainly kill a man without cutting, it is as abfolutely neceffary to cut a man of the ftone for the faving of his life, as it is to cure the averfion for the iaving of his foul. Nay, if you have but eggs ta fry, fire is as abfolutely neceffary as- either of the other, though the v^alue of the end be in thefe cafes infinitely different ; for in one of them you lofe only your dinner, in the other ydur life, and in the other your foul. But yet in thefe cafes, fire, cutting and curing that anjerfm, are each of them abfolutely and equally neceffary to their refpedtive ends, becaufe thofe ends cannot be attained without them. P, 53 You fay farther. Cutting for theffone is not always neceffary in order to the cure: but the penalties you fpeiik of cere altogether neceffary (without extraordi- ■nnry grace) to cure that pernicious and otherwif? untraSlable averfion. Let it be fo J but do the furgeons know who has this ffone, this averfitn fo, that it will certainly deflroy him unlefs he be cut ? Will you undertake to tell when the averfion is fuch in any man, that it is incurable by preaching, ex- hortation and intreaty, if his fpiritual phyfician will be inflant with him in feafon, and out of feafon ^ but certainly curable, if moderate force be made ufe of? Till you are fure of the former of thefe, you can never fay yout ■ moderate force is neceffary : Till you are fure of the latter, you can never fay, it is competent means. What you will determine concerning extraordi-^ nary grace, and when God befhows that, I leave you to confider, and fpeak clearly of it at your leifure. P. 53 You add,' that even where Cutting for thefhne is neceffary, it is withal hit- ■ zardous by my confeffton. But your penalties can no way indanger or hurt the , Joul, but by the fault of him thdt undergoes them. If the magiflrate ufe force to bring men to the true religion, he mufl judge which is the true religion -, and he can judge no other-to be it but that which he believes to be the true religion, which is his own religion. But for the magiflrate to ufe force to » bring A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 135 bring men to his own religion, has fo much danger in it to mens fouls, that by your own confeffion, none but an atheift will fay that magiftrates may ufe force to bring men to their own religion. This I ftippofe is enough to make good all that I aimed at in my inftance of cutting tor the ftone, which was, that though it were judged ufeful, and I add now neeeffary to cut men for the ftone, yet that was not enough to au- thorize a fufgeon to cut a mani- but he muft have befides that general one of doing good, fome more ipeeial commiilion ; and that which I there men- tioned, was the patient's confent. But you tell me, ^hat though^ 'as things'?. 54 now Ji and, nojurgeen has any right to cut his calcuhus patient ivkhout his can-^ fint \ yet if the rhagiflfate Jhould by a public law appoint and authorize a com* Petent number of the moji fiilful in that art, to mjit fuch as labour under that difeaji, and to cut thoje (whether they confent or not) whoje liues they unam^ monjiy judge it impoJJiUe to fa'ae otherwife : you are apt to think I would find it hard to prove that injb doing he exceeded the bounds of his pomer : and you are fure it would be as hard to prove that thofe artijis would have no right in that cafe to cut fuch perfsns. Shew fuch a law from the great Governor of the univerfe, and I ffiall yield that your furgeons (hall go to work as faft as yoii plcafe. But where is the public law ? Where is the competent number of ma- giftrates fkilful in the art, whofmuft unanhnoufly fudge of the difeafe and its dan^ ger f You can (hew nothing of all this, yet you are fo Itberatof this fort of cure, that one cannot take you fbr lefs than cutting Morecraft himfelf. But, Sir, if there were a competent number of fkilful and impartial men* who were to ufe the incifion-fcnife on all in whom they found this ftone or averfifonXo the true religion ; what do you think, would they find no work in your hofpital ? Averfioa to the true religion you f^y is of aifhlute neeefftfy to be mred: what I befeech you is ihsLt true religion? that of the church of England? For that you ovsrii to be the only true religion, and whatever you fay, you P. 13 cannot upon your principles name any other national religion in the world, that you will own to be the true. It being then of abfdute ne~ ceffity that mens averfion' to the natiopal religion of England fliould be cured : has all mankind in whom it has been akfohMy necefj'ary to be cured, been furnifhed with competent and neceffnry means for the cure oF this, averfion ? In the next place, what is your neceffary and ficfficient means for this cure that is of ^bfoliite neeeffity f and that is moderate penalties made ufe of by the- magift-rate, where the national is the true religion^ and fuiScient means are- provided for all mens inftruStion- in the true religion'. And here again I afk„ have all men to whom this cure is oi sbjhlute necefjity, been fiirniftied with* this neceflary means ? Thirdly, How is your neceffary remedy to be* appfied ? And that is in ar way wherein it cannot work the cure, though we flbould fuppofe the true re- ligion the national every where, and all the magiftrates in the world zealous; for it. To this true religion fay you men Have a natural and great averfiom ^ abfolute necefjity to be cured, and the only cure for it is force your way ap- 136 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION plifed, Le. penalties riiuft be laid upon all that diflent from the national reli- gion, till they conform. Why are men averfe to the true ? Becaufe it crofles the profits and pleafures of this life j and for the fame reafon they have an sverfioato penalties: thefe therefore, if they be oppofed one to another, and penalties be fo laid that men muft quit their lufts, and heartily imbrace the true religion, or elfe indure the penalties, there may be fome efficacy in force towards bringing men to the true religion : but if there be no oppofi- tion between an outward profeffion of the true religion, and mens lufts ; pe- nalties laid on men till they outwardly conform, are not a remedy laid to the difeafe. Punifhments fo applied have no oppofition to mens lufts, nor from thence can be expedled any cure. Men muft be driven from their averfion to the true religion by penalties they have a greater averfion to. This is all the operation of force. But if by getting into the communion of the national church they can avoid the penalties, and yet retain their natural corruption and averfion to the true religion, what remedy is there to the difeafe by penal- ties fo applied ? You would, you fay, have men made uneafy. This no doubt will work on men, and make them indeavour to get out of this uneaiy,' ftate as foon as they can. But it will always be»by that way wherein they can be moft eafy j for it is the uneafinefs alone they fly from, and therefore they will not exchange one uneafinefs for another j not for a greater) nor an equal, nor any at all, if they can help it. If therefore it be fo uneafy iot P. 7 men to mortify their lujis, as you tell us, ivhich the true religion requires of them, if they imbrace it in earneft : but which outward conformity to the true religion, or any national church does not require, what need or ufe is there of force applied fo, that it meets not at all with mens lufts, or averfion to the true religion, but leaves them the liberty of a quiet injoyment of them, free from force and penalties in a legal and approved conformity ? Is a man negligent of his foul, and will not be brought to confider ? obftinate, - and will not imbrace the truth ? is he carelefs, and will not be at the pains to examine matters of religion ? corrupt, and will not part with his lufts, which are dearer to him than his firft-born ? It is but owning the national profeflion, and he may be fo ftill : If he conform, the magiftrate has done punifhing, he is a fon of the church, and need not confider any thing far- ther for fear of penalties, they are removed, and all is well. So that at laft there neither being an abfolute neceflity that averfon to the true religion, fhould in all men be cured : nor the magiftrate being a competent judge who have this ftone of averfon, or who have it to that degree as to need force to cure it, or in whom it is curable, were force a proper remedy as it is not : nor having any commiflion to ufe it, notwithftanding what you have an- fwered : it is ftill not only as, but more reafonable for the magiftrati} upon pretence of its ufefulnefs or neceflity, to cut any one for the ftone without his own confent, than to ufe force your way to cure him of averfion to the true religion. ' To my queftion, in whofe hands this right, we were a little above fpeak- ing of, was in Turkey, Perfa or China ? you tell me, Tou anfwer roundly and plainly t in the hands-of the fovereign, to ufe convenient penalties for the^ promoting A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION promoting the true reUgj'on, I will not trouble you here with a queftion youP, 55 will meet with elfewbere ; who in thefe countries muft be judge of the true religion ? But I will aik, whether you or any wife man would have put a right of ufing force into a Mskammtdan or Pagan prince's hand, for the pro- moting of Chriftianity ? Which of my Pagans or Mohammedans would have done otherwife ? But God, you fay, has done it, and you make it good by telling me in the following words. If thisfiartle me, then you mufi teU me farther, that you look upon the Jkpreme power to be the fame all the world ever, in "whaf hands fo- ever it is placed,- and this right to be contained in it : and ifthofe that have it do not ife it as they ought, hut infiead of promoting true religiotkby proper penalties fet thtmfehes to infarce Mohammedifm or Paganifm, or My other falfe reli- gion : all that can, or that needs befaid to the matter, is, that God will one day^ call them to an account for the negleSi of their duty, for the dijhonour they do tO' him, and far the fouls that perip by their fault. Your taking this right to be ^i'p&xtoi xhiefupreme power of all civil foveretgns, which is the thing in quef- tion, is not, as I take it, proving it to be fo. But let us take it fo for once, what then is your anfwer ? God will one day call thofe fovereigns to an account forihe negleB of their duty. The queftion is not, what God will do with the fovereigns who have neglected their duty ; but how mankind \s furnijhed viith. yout competent means of promoting God's honour in the world, and the good of fouls in countries where the fovereign is of a wrong religion ? For there, how clearly foever the right of ufing it be in the fivereigK, yet as long as he ufe& not force to bring his fubjecSs to the true religion, they are deftitute of your competent means. For I imagine you do not make the right to ufe that force, ' but the actual application of it by pertal laws to be your ufeful and necefary means. For if you think the bare having that right be enough, if that be yonr fufficiertt means without the actual ufe of force, we readily allow it you. And, as I tell you elfewhere, I fee not then what need yau had of miracles to fupply the want of the magijlrate' s afffance, till Chrijiianity was fupported and incouraged by the laws of the empire : for, by your own rule, the magif- trates of the worid, during the three firft centuries after the publifhing the Chriftian religion, had the fame right, if that had been enough, that they have now in Turkey, Perfa, or China. That this is all that can be faid irt this matter^ I eafily grant you ; but that it is all that needs be faid to make- good your dodrine, I muft beg your pardon. In the fame fentence wherein you tell me, / jhonld have added necejjity ta tfefulnefs, . I call it neceffary ufefulnefs, which I imagine is not much dif- ferent. But that with the following words wherein my argument lay, had the ill luck to be overfeen ; but if you pleafe to take my argument, as I have now again laid it before you, it will ferve my turn. In your next paragraph you tell me, that What isfafd by me is with the L. II, p. icz fame ingenuity I have ufed in other places ; my words in that place are thefe : " The author having indeavoured to (hew that no body at all, of any rank ** or condition, had any power to punifh, torment, or ufe any- man ill for ". matters of religion: you tell u«, you do not yet underftandwhy clergymen are T " mt 138 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION *' not as capable of fuch power as other men:'" which words of mine contain- ing in them nothing but true matter of fadt, give you no reafon to tax -my ingenuity : nor will what you alledge make it otherwife than fuch poiver ; ^ for if the power you there Jpeak of, were externally coaSii'se power, is not that the fame power the author was fpeaking of, made ufe of to thofe ends ' he mentions of tormenting andpunifliing ? And do not you own that thofc^ who have that power, ought to punifh thofe who offend In rejedting the true religion? As to the remaining part of that paragraph, -I fhall leave the reader to judge whether I fought any occafion fo much as to name the clergy ;_ or whether the itching of your fingers to be handling the rod, guided not your pen to what was nothing to the purpofe : for the author had not faid any thing fo much as tending to exclude the clergy from fecular 'imploy-., ments, but only, if you will take your own report of it, that no ecclefiafti- cal officer, as fuch, has any externally coadlive power -, whereupon you cry out, thzt you do not yet underfiand why ecclefiajiics or clergymen are not as ca- pable of fuch power as other men. Had you flood to. be conftable of your pa- rifh, or of the hundred, you might have had caufe to vindicate thus your capacity, if orders had been objected to you j or if your aim be at a juftice of the peace, or lord chief juftice of £«g-/(««^, much more. However you. muft be allowed to be a man of forecaft, in clearing the way to fecular power, if you know yourfelf, or any of your friends defirous of it : otherwife I con- fers you have reafon to be on this occafion a little out of humour, as you are, A. p. 17 for bringing'this matter in queftion fo wholly out of feafon. Nor will, I fear, the ill-fitted excufe you bring, give yourfelf, or one who confults the places in both yours and the author's Letter, a much better opinion of it. However I cannot but thank you for your wonted ingenuity, in faying, that xt feems I wanted an occafion to Jhew my good will to the clergy, andfo T made my f elf one. And to find more work for the excellent gift you have this way, 1 defire you to read over that paragraph of mine again, and tell me, whether you can find any thing faid in it not true ? Any advice in it that you yourfelf would difown ? any thing that any worthy clergyrtian that adorns his func- tion is concerned in ? And when you have fet it down in my words, the world fhail be judge, whether I have fhewed any ill will to the clergy. Till then I may take the liberty to own, that I am more a friend to them and their calling, than thofe amongft them who fhew their forwardnefs to leave the word of God to ferve other imployments. The office of a minifter of the Gofpel requires fo the whole man, that the very looking after their poor was by the joint voice of the Twelve Apoftles, called, leaving the word of God, and ferving of tables, ASls iiii, 2. But if you think no mens faults can be :^oken of without ill will, you will make, a very ill preacher: or if you think this to be fo only in fpeaking of miftakes in any of the clergy, there mufl be in your opinion fomething peculiar in their cafe, that makes it fo much a fault to mention any of theirs ; which I mufl: be pardoned for, fince I was not aware of it : and there will want but a little cool refledlion to convince you, that had not the prefent church of Rngland a greater number in proportion, than poffibJy any other ag^ of the church ever had, of thofe who A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 13s who by their pious lives and labours in their miniflry adorn their profeffion, fuch bufy men as cannot be content to be divines without being lay-men too, would fo little keep up the reputation which ought to diftinguifh the clergy, or preferve the efteem due to a holy, /". e. a fcparate order, that no body can fhew greater good will to them than by taking all occafions to put •a ftop to any forwardiiefs, to be meddling out of their calling. This I fup- pofe made a learned prelate of our church, out of kindnefs to the clergy, mind them of their ftipulation and duty in a late treatife, and tell them that the pajioral care is to be a maris intire bujinefs, and to pojfefs both his thoughts and his time. Difc. of Paft. Care, p. izi. To your faying, That the magijirate may lay penalties upon thofe who refufe A. p. 20 ■to imbrace the doSlrine of the proper minifters of religion, or are alienated from the truth : I anfwered, " God never gave the magiftrate an authority to beL.n,p, no " judge of truth for another man. This you grant j but withal fay, T^hat P. 64 if the magijirate knows the truth, though he has no authority to judge of truth for another man ; yet he may be judge whether other men be alienated from the truth' or no ', andfo may have authority to lay fome penalties upon thofe whom he fees to be fo, to bring them to judge more fincerely for themfelves. For ex- ample, The doSlrine of the proper minifters of religion is, that the three creeds, Nice, Athanafius's, and that commonly called the Apoftles Creed, ought to be thoroughly received and believed : As alfo that the Old and New Tefta- ment contain all things neceffary to falvation. The one of thefe doSlrines a Papift fubjedt imbraces not ; and a Socinian the other. What now is the magiftrate by your commiffion to do? He is to lay penalties upon them, and continue them : How long ? Only 'till they conform, i. e. till they pro- fefs they imbrace thefe doctrines for true. In which cafe he does not judge of the truth for other men: he only judges that other men are alienated from the truth. Do you not now admire your own fubtilty and acutenefs ? I that cannot comprehend this, tell you my dull fenfe in the cafe. He that.thinks another man in an error, judges him, as you phrafe it, alienated from the truth, and then judges of truth and falfhood only for himfelf. But if he lays any penalty upon others, which they are to lie under till they imbrace for a truth what he^ judges to be fo, he is then fo far a judge of truth for thofe others. 'T\i\%x%Ws\-iX.\\}i\\v^\.Q> judge of truth for another, means; If -you will tell me what elfe it fignifies, I am ready to learn. You grant, you fay, God never gave the magijirate any authority to be judge of truth for another man : and then add, ^ut how does it follow from thence that he cannot be judge, whether any man be alienated from the truth or no ? And I afk you, who ever faid any fuch thing did follow from thence ? That which I fay, and which you ought to difprove, is. That whoever punifhes others for not being of the religion he judges to be true, judges of truth for others. But you prove that a man may be judge of truth, without having authority to judge of it for other' men, or to prefer ibe to them what they fjall be- " lieve ; which you might have fpared, till you meet with fome body that de- » nies it. But yet your proof of it is worth remembring : Rectum, fay you, eji index fui et obliqui. And certainly whoever does but know the truth, may T 2 eafily A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION eafily judge whether other men be aiienaiedfrom it or no. But though retfum be Index fill et obliquii yet a man may be ignorant of that which is the ri^ht, and may take error for truth. The truth of religion, when known, (hews what contradifts it is falfe : But yet that truth may be unknown to the ma- giftrate, as well as to any ether man. But you conclude, I know not upon what ground, as if the magiftrate could not mifs it, or were furer to, And it than other men. I fuppofe you are thus favourable only to the magiftrate of your own profeffion, as no doubt in civility a Papift or a Prefbyterian would be to thofe of his. And then infer; And therefore if the magiflrate knows the. truth, though he has no authority, to judge of truth for other mm, yet he may he judge whether other men be alienated from the truth or no. Without doubt ! who denies it him ? It is a privilege that he and all men have, that when they know the truth, or believe the truth, or have imbraced an er- ror for truth, they tsxt^. judge. whether other men are alienated from it or no, if thole other men own their opinions in that matter. You go on with your inference, Andfo may h or more truly : for had you faid, the magiftrate might ufe penalties to bring men to judge more truly, that very word had plainly difcovered, that he made himfelf a judge of truth for them. You therefore wifely chofe to fay what might beit cover this contradiction to your felf, whether it were fenfe or no, which perhaps whilft: it founded well, every one would not Hand to examine. One thing give me leave here to obferve to you, which is. That when, you fpeak of the entertainment, fubjec^ts are to give to truth, i. e. the true re- ligion, you call it believing ; but this in the magiftrate :ym. call knowing. Now let me afk you, Whether any magiftrate, wha laid penalties on any who diflented from what he j udged the true religion, or as you call it here, were A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 14 were alienated from the truth, was or could be determined in his judging of that truth by any affurance greater than believing ? When you have refolved that/ you will then fee to what purpofe is all you have faid here concerning the magiftrate's >J«owmg- the truth -, which at laft amounting to no more than the affurance wherewith a man certainly believes and receives a thing for true, will put every magiftrate under the fame, if there be any obligation to ufe force, whilft he believes his own religion. Befides, if a magiftrate knoivs his religion to be true, he is to ufe means not to make his people believe, but know it alfo j knowledge of them, if that be the way of entertaining the truths of religion, being as neceffary to the fubjedls as the magiftrate. I never heard yet of a mafter of mathematics, who had the care of in- forming others in thofe truths, who ever went about to make any one believe one of Euclid's propofitions. The pleafantnefs of your anfwer, notwithftanding what you fay, doth P. 65, 66 remain ftill the fame : for you making, as is to be feen, the power of the A. p. 22 magijlrate ordained for the bringing men to takefuch care as they ought of their fahation i the reafbn why it is every man's intereji to veji this power in the magiftrate, muft fuppofe this power fo ordained, before the people vefted it ; or elfe it could not be an argument for their vejiing it in the magiftrate. For if you had not here built upon your fundamental fup- pofition, that this power of the magiftrate is ordained by God to that end, the proper and intelligible way of expreffmg your meaning had not been to fay as you do; As the power of the magiftrate is ordained for bringing, etc. A. p. 22 fo if we fuppofe this power vefied in the magijirate by the people:' in which way of fpeaking this /lower of the magiftrate is evidently fuppofed already ordained. But a clear way of making your meaning underftood, had been to fay. That fot the people to ordain fuch a power of the magiftrate, or to veft fuch a power in the magiftrate, which is the fame thing, was x!a€\xtrue intereji: but whether it were your meaning or your expreftion that was guilty of the abfurdity, 1 fliall leave it v/ith the reader. As to the other pleafant thing of your anfwer, it will ftill appear by barely reciting it : the pleafant thing I charge on you is, that you fay. That L. II, p. ik the power of the' magiftrate is to bring men to fuch a care of their fahation, that a p 22 they may not blindly leave it to the choice of any perfon, or their own lifts or pajjions, to prefcribe to them what faith or worjhip they Jhall imbrace ; and yet that it is their beft courfe to veft a power in the magiftrate, liable to the lame lufts and pajjions as themfelves, tochufefor them. To this vou anfwer, by aflcing where it is that you fay that it is the peoples beft courfe to veft a power in the magiftrate to choofefor them? 'That you tell me I do not pretend to Jkew. If you had given your felf the pains to have gone on to the end of the pa- riagraph, or will bepleafed to read it as 1 have here again fet it down for your perufal, you will find that I at \es.{\: pretended to Jbew it : my words are thefe ; " If they veft a power in the magiftrate, to punifh them when they " diffent from his religion, to bring them to aSi even againft their own incli- nation, according to reafon and Jbund judgment, which is, as you explain your felf ill another place, to bring them to confder reafons and arguments proper Gild 142. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOI.BRATION and^fufficteht. to convince tkem.;. h,o\y far k tfe^is- from leaving it to the "choice- •' of another man to puefcribe (o them what faith or worfliip they £hall im- '« brace ?" Thus far you cite my words, to whicl? let me join the remaining part of the paragraph, to let you fee that I pretended to JheiB that the courfe you proppfed to the peopk as beft for them, was to veji a power in the ma- gsfirate to chufefor them. My words which follow thofe where you left off", L.II,p.marethefei " Efpecially if we confider, that you thinfe it a ftrange thing, * ' that the author would have the care of every man's fiul left to himfelf alone. So *' that this rare being vefted in the magiftrate, with a power to p%nijh men " to make them confider reckons and arguments proper andfufficient to convince- « them of the truth of his religion j the choice i?. evidently in th^ magif- *' trate, as much as it can be in the power of one man to chu/e for another " what religion he fhall be of; which confifts only in a power of qompell- P. 66 " ing him by punifhments to imbrace it. But all this you t-ell me, is jufi . nothing to my purpofe : Why I befeech you ? Beeaufe you Jpeak not of the- magifirate s religion, but of the true religion^ and that fropofed- with fujicient- evidence. The cafe in fliort is this j men are apt to. be mifled? by ^m pl^m^, lufis, and other men in the choice of their religion. For this great evil you pro- pofe a remedy, which is. That men, for you muft remember you are here fpeakingof the people putting this power into the magiftrates's hand, fh.ould chufe fome of their feUowrmen, and give them a power by force to gu£(rd them, that they might not he alienated from the truth by their oi^on pajions, lufts, or by other men. So it was in the firft fcheme ; or, as you have it now, to punifh them, whsnevtr ^ty reje&ed the true religion^ ajidthat pro- pofed with fufficient evidence of the truth, of it. A pretty remedy, and ma- nifeftly effeftual at firft fight : That becaufe men were all promifcuoufly apt- . ' to be mifled in their judgment, or choice of their religion, hypdffion, lufi:i, and other men, therefore they fhould chufe fome amongft themfelves, who might, they and their fucceflbrs, men made juft like themfelves, punijh them- when they rejeSiedthe true religion. If the blind, lead the blind, both Jhall fall Into the ditch, i^y^ our Saviour.* If men apt to be mifled by thtir paffions and Ittjis, will guard themfelves from falling into error, by punifliments laid on them, by. men as apt to be mifled by paflions and lufts as themfelves, how are they the fafer from fall- ing into error ? Now hear the infallible remedy for this inconvenience, and admire : the men to whom they have given this power, muft not ufe it, till they find thofe who gave it them in an error. A friend, to whom I fhewed this expedient, anfwered. This is none : For why is not a man as fit to judge for himfelf when he is in an error, as another to judge for him, who is as liable to error himfelf ? I anfwered, This power however in the other can do him no harm, but may indireBly, and at a dijiancei do him good ; becaufe the magiftrate who has this power to puniftx him, muft never ufe it but when he is in the right, and he that is puniflaed is in the wrong., But, faid my friend, who {hall be judge- whether he be in the right or no ? For men in an error think themfelves in the right, and thait as confidently as thofe A tHlRD LETtm FOR tOLERATlON thofe "who aire fti&ft io. To which I replied. No body muft be judge.; but ' the magiftjfdte ^(f)f know whfen he is in the rights And fo may the fubjedt too, faid my friend, a« well as the magiftrate> and therefore it was as good ftill be free fr^m a punifhment, thait gives a man no moiie fecurity from error than he had without it. Befides, faid he, who muft be judge whether the magiftrate knows or no ? For he *nay miftake, and thihk it to be knowledge and certainty, when it is but opinion and belief. It is no matter, for that in this fcheme, replied I> this magiftrate, we are tdld^ ^ay know whieh is the true Religion, afld he muft not ufe force but to bring men to the true re- ligion j and if he does, God will one day call him to an account for it, and fo all is faffe. Asfafe as beating the air can make a thing, replied my friend: for if believing, being aflured confidently being perfuaded that they know that the religion they profefs is true, or any thing elfe fhort of true know-, ledge will ferve the turn, all magiftrates will have this power alike, and fo men will be well guarded, or recovered from falfe religions, by put- ting it into the magiftrafte's hand to punifh thfem ivAen ihey have alienated them/elves from it. If the magiftrate be not to punifh men but when he knows, t. e. is infallibly tertain, for fo is a man in what he knowSj that his national rfeUgibn iS all true, and kn-QWi ■siX.io, that it has httn prop'ofvd tX3 thofe he punifties withfuf- fitient evidence of the truth of it : It would have been as good this power, had never bfeeh given him> lincfe he Will never be in a condition to exercile it ; and at beft it was given him to no purpofe, fince thofe who gave it him Were one with another as little indifpofed to cotifider impartially, essamine diligently, ftudy, find, and infallibly know the truth as he. But, faid he at parting, to talk thus of the magiftrate's puniftiing men that rejeSi the true religion, without telling us, who thofe magiftfates are; who have a power to judge which is the true religion, is to put this power in all magiftrate's h^nds alike, or none. For to fay he only is to be judge Which is the true re}igiGn> who is of itj is but to begin the round of inquiries again, which can at laft end no where but in every One's fuppofing his own to be it. But, faid he, if you will continue to talk on thus, there is nothing more to be done with you, but to pity or laugh a't you, and fo he left me. I aflbre you, Sir, I urged this part of your hypothefis, with all the ad- Vantage I thought your anfwer afforded me ; and if I have erred in it, or there be any way to get out of the ftrait, (if force muft in your way be tifcd, either of 'the magiftrate's punifhing men for rejecSting the true religion, without judging which is the true religion j or elfe that the magiftrate fhould judge which is the true religion -, which way ever of the two you fhall determine it, I fee not of what advantage it can be to the people, to keep them from chufing amifs, that this power of punifhing them fhould be put into the magiftrate's hands. And thenj if the magiftrate muft judge which is the true religion, as hovv" be fliould without judging, punifli any one who rejeds it, is hard to find, and punifli men who rejecft it till they do imbrace it, let it be to make then! confider, or what you pleafe, he does, I think, chufe their religion for them A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION them. And if you have not the dexterity to chufe the national religion where-ever you are, I doubt not but you would think fo too if you were in France, though there were none but moderate penalties laid on you to bring yon even againfi your own inclination to ti£i according to what they there call reafon and found judgment. That paragraph and mine to which it is an anfwer, runs thus. L. II, p. III. " I do nei- L. Ill, p. 6y. But it fem/ you have not *', ther you nor the magiftrate done with this yet : For you fay, you do nei- •' injury, when I fay that the ther me nor the magiftrafe injury, when you " power you give the ma- fay that the power I give the magiftrate, of *' giftrate of punijhing men to punifliing men to make them confider rea- ^' make them confider reafons fons and arguments proper and fufficient to " and arguments proper and convince them, is to convince them of the '■^fufficient to convince them, truth of his religion, whatever that be, and *', is to convince them of the to bring them to it. Which feems a little "truth of his religion, and Jirange and pleafant too. But thus you prove, " to bring them to it. For // .• For men will never, in his opinion, adl ** men vi^ill never, in his opi- according to reafon and found judgment, till " nion, a£l according to rea- they imbrace his religion. And if you have '' fon and found judgment, the brow of an honeft man, you v^ill not fay *' which is the thing you here the magiftrate will ever punifti you, to bring " fay vntx\ Jhould be brought to you to confider any Qther reafons and argu- " by the magijirate, even a- ments but fuch as are proper to convince your "■ ,gainji their own inclination, of the truth of his religion, and to bring " till they imbrace his reli- you to that. Which (b^des the pleafant talk " gion. And if youhave the of fuch reafons and arguments as are proper " brov/ of an honeft man, you and fufficient to convince men of the truth " will not fay the magiftrate of the magiftrate's religion, //&o«^/& it be a "will ever punifti you, to falfeonejisjujiasmuchastofay, Itisfo, be- " bring you to confider any caufe in the magiftrate's opiniorl it is fo ; and *' other reafons and arguments, becaufe it is not to be expected that he will act " but fuch as are proper to againji his opinion. As if the magijirate s " convince yo\i of the truth opinion could change the nature of things, and " of his religion, and to bring turn a power to promote the true religion, into " you to that. Thus you a power to promote a falfe one. No, Sir, the " ftiift forwards and back- magijirate's opinion has no fuch virtue. It " wards. You fay, The ma~ may indeed keep him from exercifng the p6wer " Elft''^^^^ ^•'^^ "° /»0TO^r to pu- he has to promote the true religion ; and it " nijh men to compel them to may lead him to abufe the pretence of it, to the ^' his religion; but only to pnmoting a falfe one : But it can neither de- " compel them to confider rea- froy that power, nor make it any thing but "fons and arguments proper what it is. And therefore, whatever the ma- " to convince them of the truth gijirate's opinion be, his power was given him " of his religion ; which is (as the Apoflle s power was to them) for edi- " all one as to fay, no body fication o/?^, not for deftrudion : Anditmay^ *• has always A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION has power to chufe your way for you to Jerufalemi but yet the lord of theman- nor has power to punifh you, to bring you to confider reafons and arguments pro~ per andfufficient to convince you. Of what? that the way he goes in, is the right, and and fb to ny ke you join in company, and go along with him. So that, in ef- feft, what is all your going about, but to come at ISft to the fame place again ; and put a power into the magiftrate's hands, under another pretence, to com- pel men to his religion; which ufe oi force the au- thor has fufficiently over- thrown, and you yourfelf have quitted. But I am tired to follow you fo often round the fame circle. always be /aid of him, f what St. Vauljaid of himfelfj that he can do nothing againft the truth, but for the truth. And ther^ore if the magijlrate punijhes me to bring me to afalfe re~ Rgion J it is not his opinion that willexcufe him, when he comes to anfwerfor it to his judge. For certainly men are as accountable for their opt" nions (thofe of them, I mean, which influence their praSliceJ as they are for their aSiions. Here is therefore no ihifting forwards and backwards, as you pretend', nor any circle, but in your own imagination. For though it be true that Ifay, The magiftrate has no power to punifh men, to compel them to his religion ; yet I no where fay, nor will it follow from any thing I do fay. That he has power to compel them to confider reafons and arguments proper to convince them of the truth of his religion. But I do not much wonder that you indeavour to put this upon me. For 1 think by this time it is pretty plain, that otherwife you would have but little to fay : and it is an art very much in ufe amongft forhe fort of learned men, when they cannot confute what an adverfary does fay, to make him fay what he does not ; that they may have fomething which they can confute. The beginning of this anfwer is part of the old fong of triumph ; What ! reafons and arguments proper andfufficient to convince men of the truth offalf- hoodf Yes, Sir, the magiftrate may ufe force to make men confider thofe reafons and arguments, which he thinks proper and fufficient to convince men of the truth of his religion, though his religion be a falfe one. And this is as poffible for him to do, as for a man as learned as yourfelf, to write a book, and ufe arguments, as he thinks proper and fufficient to convince men of the truth of his opinion, though it be a falflaood. As to the remaining part of your anfwer, the queftion is not, whether the magijlrate' s opinion can change the nature of things, or the power he has, or ex- cufe him to his judge for mifufing of it ? But this, that fince all magiftrates, in your opinion, have commiffion, and are obliged to promote the true reli- gion by force, and they can be guided in the difcharge of this duty by no- thing but their own opinion of the true religion, what advantage can this be to the true religion, what benefit to their fubjeds, or whether it amounts to any more than a commiflion to every magiftrate to ufe force for the pro- moting his own religfen ? To this queftion therefore you will do well to apply your anfwer, which a man of iefs (kill than you, will be fcarce able to do. U You 14^ A THIRD LETTER FOR. TOLERATION You tell us indeed, that whauver the magifirates opinion I afk yoa whether the edification -of the church could have been carried on as it was ? You tell us farther, that it may always he faidof the magifirate fn^hat St. Tacal faid ofhimfelf) that he cm do nothing agair^the truth, but for tketruthi Witnefs the king of France. If yau fay this in the faroe fenfe that St. Paul faid it of himfelf, who in all things requifite for edification, nad the imme- diate direftion and guidance of the unerring. fpirit of God, and & was infal- lible, we need not go to Rcme for an infaUihile guide, ffvery country has one in their magiftrate. If you apply thefc words t» the magiftrate in.anoliier fenfe, than what St. Paul fpoke them in ofhimfelf, fobpr men will be apt to think, you have a great care to infinuate into others a high veneration for the magiftrate j but that you yoi^rfelf have no over-sgreat reverence, for the Scrip- ture, which you thus ufe ; nor for truth, which you thus defend. To deny the magiftrate to have a power to compel men to his: religion ; but yet to fay the magiftrate. has a power, and is hound to punijh men to make them mnfider, till they ceafe to rejeSi the true reiigion ; of which true religion he muft be judge, or elfe nothing can be done in difcharge of this his, duty, is &>. like going round about to come to the fame place, that it will always be a circle in mine and other peoples imagination, and not only there, but in your hypothelis. . . p. -^5 All that yotj fay turns upon the truth or falfhood of this propofition j That whoever punijhes any one in matters of religion to make him confder, takes upon him to be judge for another what is right in matters of religion. This yOu think plainly involves a contradidtion ; and fo it would, if thefe general terrns had in your ufe of them their ordinary and ufual meaning. But, Sir, be but pleafed to take along -with you,, that w&oct^ punijhes any man your way in matters af religion, to make him canfider, as you ufe the wovA confder, takes' upon him to be judge for another what, is; right in matters of teiigion : and you will find it fe far from a contradidtion, that it is a plain truth. For your way of puniftung is a peculiar way, and is this -, that the magiftrate, where the- national religion is the true religion, fhould punifti, thofe who diflent from it, to make them confider as they ought, i. e. till they ceafe to reje£l ; or, in other words, till they conform to it. If therefore he punifties none but thofe who diflent from, and punifties them till they conform to that which, he judges the true religion, does he not take on him to. judge for them what is the true religion ? It. is true indeed what you fay, there is no other reafon.to punip another to make him confider, but that hefhould judge for hmtfelf: andthis \?«ill always hold true amongft thofe, who whea they fpeak ,of cjonfidering, mean confidering^ and nothing elfe. But then thefe things will follow from thence : i. That ia infliding of penalties to make men cmfider, the magiftrate of a country, wheE& A THIRD LETTEH FOR TOLERATION ^^ tvhere the national religion isfalffe, no more mifapplies his power, than he whofe reiigiow is true ; for one has as much right to punifh the negligent to make them cmjider, Jiudy, and examine matters of religion, as the -other^ p. 27 2. If the magiftrate punifhes men in matters of religion, truly to make l^erh eoHjSder, he will punifh all that do not ednfider, whether conformi'fts or nonconformifts^ ' p If the magiftrate punifhes in matters of religion to fiiake men confidert it is, as you fay, to make men judge for the'mfelves : for there is no uje' 6f> coftfideringy but in order to judging. Biit then when a man has judged far himfelf, the penalties for not eonjdering ard to be taken off: for elfe your faying that a rnan is punifhed to make him conjider^ that he mayjudg^ for himfelf, is plain mockery. So that either you muft' reform your fcheme. Of allow this propofition to Ibe true, viz. Whoever pmijhei any mdn in matters 6f religioiii to make him in y^^tir fenfe confder, takes upon him to judge for an- other 'v&hat is fighi in matters of religion :' and with it the conclufion, viz. Therefore whoever punijhes any one in matters of religion, to make him ebnjideft takes upon him to do what no man can do, and confequently mif applies his powef' of puniping,^ if he-has that power.- Which conclufon, you fay, you Jhould readily admiC'a^ficJiciently drnmnflrsttedi if the prop and the truth -• U 2 of J48 A THIRD LETTER FOR, TOLERATION qC the principles of the Chriftian religion, and you find me anfwer therein ^Qt' to your lifciog : here again no doubt you will punifh me to make me confider ; but is it not becaufe you judge for me, that the Chriftian religion is the right ? Go on thus as far as you will, and till you find I had no reli- gion at all, you could not punifh me to make me to confider, without taking upon you to judge for me what is right in matters of religion. To punifh without a fault, is injuftice ; and to punifh a man without judging him guilty of that fault, is alfo injuflice ; and to punifh a man who has any reHgion to make him confider, or, which is the fame thing, for not having fufficiently confidered, is no more nor lefs, but punifhing him for not being of the religion you think befl for him; that is the fault, and that is the fault you jud^e him guilty of, call it cotifidering as you pleafe: for let him fall into the hands of a magiflrate of whofe religion he is, he judgeth him to have confidered fufficiently. From whence it is plain, it is religion is judged of, and not confideration, or want of confideration. And it is in vain to pretend that he is punifhed to make him judge for himfelf: for he that is of any religion, has already judged for himfelf; and if you punifh him after that, under pretence to make him confider that he may j.udge for him- felf, it is plain you punifh him to make him judge otherwife than he has already judged, and to judge as you have j;udged for liira. Your next paragraph complains of my not having contradaSted the follow- ing words of yours, which I had cited out of your A. p. 26, which that the reader may judge of, I fhall here fet down again. Am all the hurt that comes, to them by it, is only the fuff'ering fome tolerable inconveniences, for their follow- ing the light of their own reqfon, and the diStatei of their own confciences :. which certainly is nofuch mifchief to. mankind, as to make it more eligible, thai there Jhould be no fuch power vefied in the magifiratei but the care of every man s foiil JhoiUd be left to him alone, (as this author demands it Jhould be : I that if, that ewry man Jhould be fujfered quietly, and without the leajl molejiati&n,. either to take no care at all of his foul, f he be fo< pleafed ; or in doing it, to follow his own groundlejs prejudices, or unaccountable humour, or any crafty feducer, whom he may think fit to take for his guide. To which I £hall here fubjoin my anfwer and your reply. L.II,p.ii5."^i6y L. Ill, p.'76.. Whieh words you fet down at- large -^ '^Jhould not the but inftead of contradiSting them-, or offeririg to fhew that " care of every maris the miSi^vdi fpoken of, is fuchas makes it more eligible, *' foul be left to him- etc. you only demand. Why fhould not the care of every " felf, rather than man's foul be left to himfelf, rather than the magiflrate ? « the magiflrate ? Is the magiflrate Uke to be more concerned for it ? Is " Is the magiflrate the magiflrate like to. take more care of it, etc. f As if " like to be more not to kave the care of every maris fml to^ himfelf alone, " concerned for it? were, as you exprefs it afterwards ^ /a take the care of *' Is the magiflrate mens fouls from themfelves : or as ift-ovefl. a powering «• like to take more the magifirate,to procure as much as in him, lies (i. e. as ** care of it ? Is the far as it can be procured, by, convenient pendltiesj that men •« ma- * take A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION magUlrate com- take fuch care of their fouls as they ought to do, were to manly more care- /eave the care of their fouls to the magidrate rathef than ful or his own, to themfelves : Which no man but your felf will imagine. than other men / acknowledge as freely as you can do, that as every man are of theirs ? is more concern d than any man elfe can be, fo he is like^ Will you fay the wife more obliged to take care of his foul j and that no man magiftrate is . lefs cam by any means be difcharged of the care of his foul', expofed, in mat- which, when all is done, will never be faved but by his ters of, religion, own care of it. But do I contradict any thing of thir, to prejudices, hu- when I fay, that the care (f every man's foul ought not to mours, and crafty be left to himfelf alone ? Or, that it is- the intereji of feducers., than o^ mankind, that tf^ magiftrate be intrufted and obliged to ther men-? If take care, as far as lies in him, that no man neglect his cannot lay your own foul? Ithought^Iconfefs, that every man was in fame- hand on your fort charged with the care of his ne\^ho\xT's foul. But heart, and fay all in your way of rea/bning, he that affirms this, takes away this, what then the care cf every man's Jhul from himfelf, and leaves it will be got by the to his neighbour rather than to himfelf. But if this be change? And w/^y plainly abfurd, as every one fees it is* thenfo it muft he may not the care likewife to fay, T!hat he that vefts fuch a power as we here- of every mans foul fpeak of in the magiftrate, takes away the care of mens; be left to himfelf? fouls from themfelves, and places it in the magiftrate, Efpecially, if a rather than in themfelves. man be in fo What trifling then is it tofe^ here. If you cannot lay much danger to . your hand upon your heart, and fay all this, viz. that mifs the truth, the magiftrate- is like to be more concerned for other who is fuffered men's fouls- than themfelves, etc. What then will be quiietly, and with- got by the change ? For it is plain-, here is no fuch change out the leaft mo- as you would infinuate : But the care qffou/ls which I af- leftation, either to fert to the magiftrate, is fo far from discharging any man take no care of his of the care of his own foul, or kffeniug his obligation ta foul, if he be fo- it., that itferves to no other purpbfe in the world, but t& pleafed, or tofoJ- bring men, who otherwife would not, to confider and do^ low his own pre- what the inter eft of their fouls obliges them to. judicesytic. ? For It is^ therefore manifeft, that the thing here ta be conr- ifwantofwo/^^z- fdered, is not. Whether the magiftrate be \\)s£, to be more iion bethe dange- concerned for other mens fouls, or to take more care of rous ftate where- them than themfelves : nor, whether he be commonly in men are like- more careful of his o.wn foul, than other men are of lieft to raifs the theirs : nor, whether he be kfs expofed,. in matters of rightway,itmuft religion, to> . prejudices, humours, and crafty feducers„ be confeffed, that than other men : nor. yet, whether he be not mote Indau'- of all men, the get to- be in the wrong than, other mea, in- regard that magiftrate is moft he never meets with that great and only antidote of in danger to be in mine fas you call it J- againft error, which I here call mo- <-the wrong, and leftation. But the point upn which this mutter turns,. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOOLERATION <* fo the unfitteft, if umly this, -mbetber the fahatim of fouls be mi better " ytju, take the care provided for, if the magiftrate be obliged to procure, as " of mem fouls from much as in him lies, that every man take fach care as he *• themfelves, of all ought of his foul, than if he be not fo Miged, but the *' men, to be. in^ care of every maris foul be l(ft to himfelf dlone: Which *' trufted. with it. certainly any man of common fenfe may eafily det^-mine. *' For he never For as you ivHl not, I fuppofe, deny but God has more ** meets with that amply provided for the falvation of your own foul, by eb-, *' great and only liging your neighboto', as well as yourfelf, to take care *' antidote of yours of it i though it is poffibleyour neighbour may not be more *'. againft error, concerned ^or it than your felf; or may not be more "which you here cz.xti\Aof his onsj^faul, than you are of yours; or may *' call molejlation. be no lefs expofed, in matters of religion, to prejudices, ^* He never has the etc. than you are ', becaufe if you are your felf wanting ** benefit of your to your own foul, it is more likely that you will be brought f fovereign remer to take care of it, if your neighbour be obliged to admomJB *' dy, punijhment, and exhort you to it, than if he be not ; though it may "to make him fall out that he will not do what he is obliged to do ifi that ■ " confiderj which ca/e: So I think it cannot be denied, but the falvation of *' you. think fo ne- all mens fouls is better provided for, if^efides the obli- " ceiTary, that you gation which every man has to take care of his own foul " look on it as a fand that which every man's neighbour has likewife to do *\ moft dangerous it J the magiftrate alfi be intrufed and obliged to fie that " ftate for men to no man negleSl his foul, than it would be', if every man *' be without it ; were left to himfelf in this matter : Becaufe though we *' and therefore tell Jhould admit that the magiftrate is not like to be, or is " us. It is every not ordinarily more concerned for other mens fouls, " man's true inte- than they themfelves are, etc. it is neverthelefs unde~ " reft, not to be niably true fill, that whoever negleSts his foul, is more ** left wholly to likely to be brought to take care of it, if the magiftrate " himfelf in matters be obliged to do what lies in him to bring him to do it, '' of religion. than tf he be not. Which is enough to jhew, that it is every man's true intereft, that the care of his foul pould not be left to himfelf alone, but that the magiftrate yl&eaA/ befofar intrufted.with it as I contend that be is. Your complaint of my not having formally contradidled the words above- cited out pf j/i. p, 26, looking as if there were fome weighty argument in them: I muft inform my reader, that they are fubjoined to thofe, wherein you recommend the ufe of force in matters of religion, by the gain thofe that are punifh'd (hall make by it, though it be mifapplied by the magiftrate to bring them to a. wrong religion. So that thefe words of yours, all the hurt that comes, to them by it, is ail the hurt that comes to men by a mifap- plication of the magiftrate's power, when being of a falfe religion, he ufes' force to bring men to it. And then your propofition ftands thus, That the fuffering what you call tolerable inconvemencesfor their following the light of their A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 151 their own reafons, and the dilates of their own eonfciences, is mfiich mif chief to mankind as to make it more el^ible, that there Jhould be no power vefted in the magijirate to ufe force to bring men to the true religion, though the ^Jia- giftrates mifaffly this power, /. e. ufe it to bring men to their own religj|bn when falfe. This is the fum of what you fay, if it has any coherent meaning in it : For it being to (hew the ufefulftefs of fuch a power vefted in the magiftrate, under the mifcarriages and misapplications it is in common practice obferved to be liable to, can have no other fenie. But I having proved, that if fuch a power be by the law of nature vefted in the magiftrate, every magiftrate is obliged to ufe it for the promoting of his religion as far as he believes it to be true, fhall not much trouble my felf, if like a man of art you ihould ufe your ikill to give it another fenfe : For fuch is your natural talent, or great caution, that you love to fpeak iildefinitely, and, as feldom as may be,, leave.your felf accountable for aiiy propofitions of a clear determined lenfe ; but under words of doubtful, but :feeming plaufible fignification, conceal a meaning, which plainly exprefled would, at firft fight, appear to contradira^(?«f^and experience inables him to judge beft what penalties do agree with your rule of moderation, which, as I have ftiewn, is no rule at all. So that at laft your tolerable inconveniences are fuch as the magiftrate fhalJ judge convenient to oppofe to vntns prejudices, humours., and to feducers i. fuch as he flaall think convenient to bring men from their falfe religions, or to punifti their rejedling the true; which whether they will not reach mens eftates and libetties, or go as far as any the King of France has ufed, i& morelhan you can be fecurity for. 2. Another fet of good words we have here, which at firft hearing are apt to ingage mens concern, as if too much could not be done to recover men from fo perilous a ftate as they feem to def- cribe ; and thofe are Knsxif Mowing their own groundlefs prejudices, unaccount- able humours, or crafty feducers. Are not theft expreflions to fet forth a de- plorable condition, and to move pity in all that hear them ? Enough to make the unattentive reader ready to cry out, Help for the Lord's fake ! do any thing rather than fuffer fuch poor prejudiced feduced people to be eternally kiftl Whereas he that examines what perfons thefe words can in your feh.emje A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION fcheme defcribe, will find they are only fuch as any where diffent from thofe articles of faith, and ceremonie& of outward worfliip, which the magiftrate, or at leaftypu his diredtor, approve of. For whilft you talk thus of the true region in general, and that fo general, that you cannot allow your felf to d^end fo near to particulars, as to recommend the fearching and fludy of the Scriptures to find it, and that the power in the magiftrates hands to ufe force, is to bring men to the true religion ; I afk, whether you do not think, either he or you muft be judge, which is the true religion, before he can exercile that power ? and then he muft ufe his force upon all thofe who dif- fent from it, who are then the prejudiced, humourfome, and /educed you here ipeak of. Unlefs this be fo, and the magiftrate be judge, I aflc. Who fhall refolve which is the prejudiced perfori, the prince with his politics, or he that fufFers for his religion ? Which the more dzn^eroxxs feducery Lewis XIV with his dragoons, or Mr. Claud with his Sermons ? It will be no fmall dif- ficulty to find out the perfons who are guilty oi folloioing groundlefs prejudices, unaccountable humours, or crafty feducers, unlefs in thofe places where you ihall be gracioufly pleafed to decide the queftion -, and out of the plenitude of your power and infallibility to declare which of the civil Jbvereigns now in being do, and which do not efpoufe the one only true religion, and then we ftiall certainly know that thofe who diffent from the religion of thofe magiftrates, are theie prejudiced, humourfome, feduced perfons. But truly as you put it here, you leave the matter very perplexed, when you defend the eligiblenefs of vefting a power in the magift rate's hands, to remedy by penalties va^ns following their own groundlefs prejudices, unaccount- able humours, and crafty feducers, when in the fame fentence you fuppofe the magiftrate who is vefted with this power, may inflidt thofe penalties on men, for their following the light qf their own reafon, and the dictates of their dwti confciencgs -, which when you have confidered, perhaps you will not think my anfwer fo wholly befide the matter, though it (hewed you but that one abfurdity, without a formal contradidiion to fo loofe and undetermined a propofition, that it required more pains to unravel the fenfe of what was co- vered under deceitful expreffions, than the weight of the matter contained in them was worth. For befides what is already faid to it : How is it poffible for any one, who had the greateft mind in the world to contradidtion, to deny it to be more eligible that fuch a power ihould be vefted in the magiftrate, till he knows^ to whom you affirm it to be more eligible ? Is it more eligible to thofe who fuffer by it, for following the light of their own reafon, and the dictates of their own cpnfciences ? for thefe you know are gainers by it, for they know better than they did before where the truth does lie. Is it more eligible to thofe who have no other thoughts of religion, but to be of that of their country with- out any farther examination ? Or is it more eligible to thofe who think it their duty to examine matters of religion, and to follow that which upon exa- mination appears to them the truth ? The former of thefe two make, I think, the greater part of mankind, though the latter be the better advifed : but A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION but upon what grounds it fhould be more eligible to either of them, that the magiftrate fljould, than that he fhould not have a power vejied in him to ufe force to bring'men to the true religion, when it cannot be imployed but to bring men to that which he thinks the true, /. e. to his^own religion, is^not eafy to guefs. Or is it more eligible to the priefts and minifters of national religions every where, that the magiftrate fhould be vefled with this power? who being fure to be orthodox, will have right to claim the affiflance of the magiflrate's power to bring thofe whom their argu- ments , cannot prevail 'on, to imbrace their true religion^ and to worjhip God indecent ways prefcribed by thofe to whom God has left the ordering offuch mat- ters. Or laft of all, Is it more eligible to all mankind ? And are the ma- giflrates of the world fo careful or fo lucky in the choice of their religion, that it would be an advantage to mankind, that they fhould have a right to do what in them lies, i. e. to ufe all the force they have, if they think con- venient, to bring men to the religion they think true ? When you have told, us to which of thefe, or what other, it is more eligible; I fuppofe the reader will without my contradicting it, fee how little truth there is in it, or how little to your purpofe. If you will pardon me for not having contradid:ed that palTage of yours We have been confidering, I will indeavour to make you amends in what you fay in reply to my anfwer to it, and tell you, that notwithfland- ing all you fay to the contrary, fuch a power as you would have to be vefled in the magiftrate, takes away the care of mens fouls from themfelves, and places it in the magiflrate, rather than in themfelves. For if when men have examined, and upon examination imbrace what appears to them the true religion, the magiftrate has a right to treat them as mifled hy prejudice y hu- mour, or feducers ; if he may ufe what force, and inflidt what punifhments he fhall think convenient till they conform to the religion the magiflrate judges the true; I think you will fcarce deny, but that the care of their fouls is by fuch a power placed rather in the magiflrate than in themfelves, and taken as much from them as by force and authority it can be. This, whatever you pretend, is the power which your fyftem places in the magiflrate. Nor can he upon your principles exercife if otherwife, as I imagine I have (hewed. You fpeak here, as if this power, which you would have to be vefied in the magiflrate, did not at all difcharge, but aflifl the care every one has or ought to have of his own foul. I grant, were the power you would place in the magiflrate fuch as every man has to take care of his neighbour's foul, which is to exprefs itfelf only by counfel, arguments and perfuafion ; it left him flill the free liberty of judging for himfelf ; and fo the care of his foul remained flill in his own hands. But if men be perfuaded, that the wife, and good God has vefed a power in the magijirate, to be fo far judge for them, what is the true religion, as to punjfh them for rejeBing the religion which the magiflrate thinks the true, when offered with fuch evidence as_he )ndgcs fiifficient to convince them; and to punifh them on till they confider fo as to imbrace it ; what remains, but that they render themfelves to the care and condu<3; of a guide that God in his goodnefs has appointed them, , X who 154 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION who having authority and coiiimifSon from God to be judge for them, whicli is the true religion, and what are arguments proper and fufScient to convince any one of it^ and he hiaifdf being convinced of it, why fliould they be fo foolifh, as to fuffer puitifliments in oppofitipn to a power which is in the right, and they ought to fubmit to ? To what purpofe (hotld they, under the. weight of penalties wade time and pains in examining, fince whatever they fliould judge upon examination, the magiftrate judging the arguments and reafons he offers for the truth of his religion, proper and fujleient to con- vinee them, they muft ftiil lie under the puniflimerit the magiftrate fhall think convenient till they do comply ? Befides, when they are thus puniflied by their magiflrate for not con- forming, what need they examine ? Since you tell them. It ii not firiSily necejfary to falvation, that all that are of the true religion Jhould underjiand the grounds of it. The magiftrate being of the one- only true religion, knows- it to be fo j and he knows that that religion was tendered to them with fuf-' fcient evidence, and therefore is obliged to punifh them for rejedting it. This is that which men muft upon your feheme fuppofe -, for it is, what yoU' your felf'muft fuppofe, before the magiftrate can exercife that power you con- tend to be vejied in him, as is evident to any one, who will put your fyftem together, and particularlyiweigh what you fay. P. 48 When therefore men are put into fuch a ftate as this, that the magiftrate mAy';^\idi^Q\ifh.\ch is the true religion; the -magiftrate may judge what is y^ ficient evidence of its truth j the magiftrate may be judge to whom it is ten- dered with fufficient evidence, and punijh them that rejeB it f@ propofed with fuch penalties as he alfo ftiall judge convenient, and all this by God's appoint- ment, and an authority received from the wife and benign governour of all things, I alk, whether the care of mens fouls are not taken out of their own hands, and put into the magiftrates ? Whether in fuch a ftate they can or will think there is any need, or that it is to any purpofe for them to ■ examine? And whether this be a cure for the natural averfion that is in men to confider and weigh matters pf religion ; and the way to force, or fo touch as incourage them to examine ? "?. y8 But, fay you, the falvation of all mens fouls is better provided for, if b'efide^ the obligation that every man has tO' take care of his own foul, the magijirate alfo be intrujied and obliged to fee that no man negleBhis own foul, than it would be if every man were left to himfelfin that matter. Whatever ground another p, 64 may have-to fay this, you can have none : You wKo give fo good reafon why conformifts, though never fo ignorant and negligent in examining mat- ters of religion, cannot yet be puniftied to make them confider, muft ac- knowledge that ALL mens falvation is not the better provided for by a power vefted in the magiftrate, which cannot reach the far greateft part of men, 1*. 22 which are every-where the conformift to the national religion. You that plead fo well for the magift-rate's not examining whether thofe that conform* do it upon reafon and conviction, but fay it is ordinary prefumabh they do fo j wherein I hefeech you do you put this care of mens falvation that is placed m> the magiftrate ? even in bringing thfem; to outward conformity to the national irellgloii. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 155 re%k>n, and there leaving them. And are the fouls of all mankind the ieifer provided /or, if the magiftrates of the world are vefted with a power to ufe force to bring men to an outward profeiHon of what they think the true religion, without any other care of their falvation ? For thither, and no iarther, reaches their ufe of force in your way of applying it. Give me leave therefore to frj^e with you once again, and to defire you to 1^ your hand upon your heart, and tell me what mankind ihall gain by the change ? For I hope by this time it is not Co much a paradox to you, that if the, magiftrate be commiffioned by God to take care of mens fouls, in your way it takes away the care of mens fouls from themfelves in all thbfe who have need of this affiftance of the magiftrate, /. e. all thofe who negled to Gonfider, and are averfe to examination. One thing more give me leave to obferve to you, and that is, that taking care of mens fouls, or taking care that they neglect not their fouls, and laying, penalties on them to bring them in outward profeflion to the national reli- gion, are two very different things, though in this place and elfewhere you confound them, and would have penal laws, requiring church-conformity, pafs under the name of care'of mens fouls, for that is the utmoft your way of applying force does or can reach to ; and what care is therein taken of mens fouls, may be feen by the lives and knowledge obfervable in not a Cq^ con- formifts. This is not faid to lay any blame on conformity, but to fhew how improperly you Ipeaik, when you call penal laws made to promote confor- mity, and force ufed to bring men to it, ^ care of mens fouls ; when even the exadteft obfervers, and moft zealous advancers of conformity may be as ir-» religious,, ignorant, and vicious as any other men. ' In the firtft treatife we heard not a fyllable of any other ufe or end of force in matters of religion, but only to make men confider. But in your fecond, being forced to own bare-faced the punifhing of men for their religion, you call it, a ijice to rejeSi the true faith, and to refufe to worjhip God in decent P. 1 3 ways prefcribed by thofe to whom God has left the orderingit; and tell us, that it is s. fault which n^ayjujily be punijhedhy the magiftrate, not to be of the na~P- 20 tional religion, where the true is the national religion. To make this, doftrine of perfecution feem limited, and go down the better, to your telling us it muft be only where the national religion is the true, and that the pe- nalties muft be moderate and convenient ; both which limitations having no other judge but the magiftrate, as I have fheyv^ed elfewhere, are no limitations at all, you in words add a third,' that in effedt figniftes juft as much as the other two.: and that is. If there befuffieient means of inftruBion. provided for Y . 20 all for inJiruSiing them in the truth of it ; of which provifion the magiftrate alfo being to be judge, your limitations leave him as free to punifti all dif- fenters from hisown religion, as any perfecutor can wifh : For what he will think_^^^«V«/ means of injiriiction, it will be hard for you to fay. In the meantime, as far as may be gathered from what you fay in another place, we will examine what^you xSAv^fufficient provifion for injiructing men^ which you have expjjeffed in thefe words ; For if the magiftrate provides fuf P. 63 ficientlyfor the injiruction of all his fubjects in the true religion, and then re- X 2 quires A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION quires them all under convenient peftalfies to hearken to the teachers arid timers of it, and to profefs andexercife it 'nvith one accord under their direction in public affemhlies. That which flumbles one at the firft view of this your method of inftrudion is, that you leave it uncertain, whether diflenters muft firft be inftrudled, and then profefs ; or elfe firft profefs, and then be inftruded in the national religion. This you will do well to be a little more clear in the next time ; for you mentioning no inftrudion but in public affemblies, and perhaps meaning it for a country where there is little other pains taken with diflenters but the confutation and condemnation of them in afl^emblies, where they are not, they muft ceafe to be diflenters before they can partake of this fufficient means of inftrudtion. And now for thofe who do with one accord put themfelves under the direc- tion of theminijlers of the national, and hearken to thefe teachers of the true religion : I afk whether one half of thofe whereof moft of the afl'emblies are made up, door can, fo ignorant as they are, underftand what they hear from the pulpit ? And then whether if a man did underftand, what in many aflfemblies ordinarily is delivered once a week there for his inftrudtion, he might not yet at threefcore years end be ignorant of the grounds and prin- ciples of the Chriftian religion ? Your having fo often in your letter ms.rv- tiontd fufficient provif on of injiruction-, has forced thefe two ftiort queftions from me. But I forbear to tell you what I have heard very fober people, even of the church of England, fay upon this occafion : For you have warned me already, that it ftiall be interpreted to be a quarrel to the clergy in general, if apy thing ftiall be taken notice of in any of them worthy to be mended. I leave it to thofe whofe profeflion it is to judge, whether di- vinity be a fcience wherein men may be inftrudted by an harangue or two once a week, upon any fubjedt at a venture, which has no coherence with that which preceded, or that which is to follow, and this made to people that are ignorant of the firft principles of it, and are'not capable of under- ftanding fuch ways of difcourfes. I am fure he that ftiould think this afif- fidient means of infiructing people in any other fcience, would at the end of feven or twenty years find them very little advanced in it. And bating per- haps fome terms and phrafes belonging to it, would be as far from all true and ufeful knowledge of it as when they firft began. Whether it be fg in matters of religion, thofe who have the opportunity to obferve muft Judge» And if it appear that amongft thofe of the national church there be very many fo ignorant, that there is nothing more frequent than for the minifters, themfelves to complain of it, it is manifeft from thofe of the natiohal church, whatever may be concluded from diflenters, that ^^ means of injiruc- tion provided by the law, are not fufficient, unlefs that be fufikient means ©f inftruftion, which men of fufiicient capacity for other things, 'may live under many years, and yet know very little by. If you fay it is for want of Corifideration, muft not your remedy of force he ufed to bring them to- it ? Or how will the magiftrate, anfwer for it, if he ufe force to make diflenters eonfider, and let thofe of his own church perifli for want of it ? This A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 157 This being all one can well underftand by jonr fujicient means of inftruc- tion, as-you there explain it, I do not fee but men who have no averfion to be inftruSed, may yet fail of it, notwithftanding fuch a provifion. Perhaps by exercifing the true religion with one accord under the direSlion of the minijiers of it in public ajfemblies, you mean fomething farther -, but that not being an, ordinary phrafe, will need your explication to make it underftood. CHAPTER II OF THE magistrate's COMMISSION TO USE FORCE IN MATTERS OF RELIGION. Though in the foregoing chapter on examining your doftrine concerning the magiftrates ■v^ho may or may not ufe force in matters of religion, we have in feveral places happened to take notice of the commiffion whereby you authorize magiftrates to a6t ; yet we fhall in this chapter more particu- larly confider that commiffion. You tell us, To ufe force in matters of re- ligion, is a duty of the magiftrate as old as the law of nature, in which the P- 35 magijlrate' s commijjion lies : for the Scripture does not properly give it him, but fuppofes it. And. more at large you give us an account of the magiftrate' s' commiffion in thefe words : // is true indeed, the author and finifher of our faith has given the magijlrate no new power or commijjion : nor was there any P^ J» need that he Jhould, fij himjelf had any temporal power to give : J For he found him already, even by the law of nature, the minijler of God to the people for good^ and bearing the fword not in vain, i. e. invejled witlT coaStive power, and ob- liged to uje it for all the good purpojes which it might Jerve, and for which it Jhould be found needful; even for the rejiraining offalfe and corrupt religion :- as Job long before 'f perhaps before any of the Scriptures were writteff^ acknowledged, kvhen he Jaid, chapt. xxxi, 26, 27, 28, that the worjhiping the £un or the moon, was- an iniquity to be punifhed by the judge. But though our Saviour has given the magtjlrates no new power ; yet being king of kings, he expeSts and requires that they Jhould ftibmit thenf elves to his fcepter, and ufe the power At) hie h always belonged to them, for his Jervice, and for the advancing his Jpiri- tual kingdom in the world. And even that charity which our great majier f& earnejily recommends, and Jo JlriStly requires of all his difciples, as it obliges aK men to Jeek and promote the good of others, as well as their own, efpecially their Jpiritual and eternal good, by Juch means as their Jeveral places and relations indble them to-uje ; Jo does it especially oblige the magijlrate to d& it as a magif- trate, i. e. by that power which inables him to do it above the rate of other men. So far therefore is the Chrifian magijlrate, when he gives his helping-hand to the furtherance of the Gofpel, by laying convenient penalties upon fuch as re- je£l it, or any part of it, from,- ufing any other mems for the Jalvation of mens fouls, than what the author and finijlder of our faith has direSled, that he does no more than his duty to God, to his redeemer ^ and to his fubjeSts, requires of him* Chrifta A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION . GhrUl, you fay, has given no new ftmer or eommi^on to tke magiftrafe: and for this you give feveral reafons. i . 'There was no need that he Jhould* Yet it, feems ftrange that the Cbr'ijiianmagiflrafss alone fhould have an exercife of ceaBive pm^er in matters of religion, and yet our Saviour fhould fay nothing qf it, but leave them to that commiffion which was common to them with all other magiftrates. Th^ Chriftiajj religiop in cafes of lefs moment is not wanting in its rules ; and I know not whether you will not charge the New Teftament v^rith a great defeft, if that law aloncwbichteaches the only true religion, that law which all magi%a*es who are of the true religion, receive and imbrace, fhould fay nothing at all of fo neceflary and important a duty to thofe who alone are in a capacity to difcha^e it, but leave them only to that general law of nature, whjch others who are not qualified to ufe this force, have in common with them. This at leafjb feems nee^ui*. if ^ new qomnjiffion does not, that the Ghriftiaji niagijirates fhould liave been inftrudled what degree of force they iJipuM ufe, and been liijiited tp your moderate penalties ; fince for above thefe tsyelve hundred years, though they havcT^adily enough found out your com- nviffion to ufe forpe, ^hpy iiever fpund out your moderate ufe of it, which is that alone which ypu ^flufe us is ujifiilzxi^ necejfary- Z- You.fay, If our Baiaiourhadaw^ temporal p&wer to give -, whereby you feem to give this as a reiifpn why, he gave not the civil magiflrate power to ufe/pFPe in matters of religion, th^t he h*d it not to give. You tell us in the fame paragraph, th^the is Ung of kings; and Tie tells us himfelf, T^hat all power is given unto him in heaven an^m^ earth. Matt, xxviii, 18 : So that he could have given what power, to whp.m> and to whatpurpofe he had pleafr ed : and concerning this there needs np jf. 3. For he found him alfeady by the laru} of nature in^vefied with coaSiive power, and obliged to uf^ it for aU the goedpurpofes which it might ferve, and for which it jhould be found needful. He found alfo fathers, hufbands, maflers, inyefl- ed with their dirtind; ppwers by the fame law, and under the fame obliga- tion ; and yet he thought it needful to prefcribe to them in the ufe of thofe powers : But there was no need he Jhould do fo to the civil magiflrates in the ufe of their power in matters of religion j becaufe though fathers, hufbands, maflers, were liable to excefs in the ufe of theirs, yet Chriflian magiflrates were not, as appears by their having always kept to thofe moderate meafures, which you affure us to be the only necejfary and ufeful. And what at lafl is their commiflion ? Even that of charity, which obliges all men to feek and promote the good of others, efpecially their fpiritual and eternal gogd, by fuch means as their feveral places and relations inable them to '^, efpeeifilly magijirates as magiflrates. This duty of charity is well dif- charged by tht magifrate as tif agnate, is it not ? in bringing men to an out- ward profefBon of ajjy, even of the true religion, and kaving them there ? But, Sir, I afk you who mull be judge, what is for the fpiritual and eternal good of his fubjed:s, the niagiflrate himfelf or- no ? If not he himfelf, whq fpr him ? Or cap it be done without any one's judging at all ? If he, the magiflrate, mufl judge every where himfelf what is for the fpiritual and eternal A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION J59 eternal goffd of his fiibje^is, as I fee no help for it; if the magiftrate be eveiy where by the Ima ^ ne^re obliged to prtmete their fpirkiial and eternal good, is not the true religion like to find great advantage in the world by the ufe of force in the magiftrate's hands ? And is not this a plain dernonilration that God has by the law of nature given commiffion to the magiftrate to ufe force for the promoting the true religion, fince, as it is evident, the exe- cution of fuch a commiffion will do fb much more harm than good ? To fhew that your inMreB and at a dtflance ufifulntfsy with a general ne- eeffity of forces authorizes the civil power ih the ufe of itt yoU ufe the follow- ing vpofdsj That force does foiHe fervice towards the making offcholars and ar- P. i_7 tiflsy IJuppofe you 'mill eafily grant. Give me leave therefore to ajk, how it Joes it J I^ppoje you will Jay, not by its direSi and proper efficacy, (for force is no more capable to work learning or arts, than the belief of the true teligioh in men, by its direSl and proper efficacy ;) but by prevailing upon thofe who are defigned for fcholars or artifts, to receive inJlruSlion, and to apply themfelves to the nfe of thofe means and helps which are proper to make them what they are defigned to'be : that is, it does it indireSHy, and at a diflance. Well then, if all the ufefulnefs of the force towards the bringing fcholars or apprentices to the learning or fkillthey are defigned to attain, be only an indired: and at a diftaricb ufefulnefs ; I pray what is it that warrants and authorizes fchool-majiers, tu- tors or mafiers, to ufi force upon their fcholars or apprentices, to bring them to learning, or thejkill of their arts and trades, if fuch an indifedt, and at a diftance ufefulnefs of force, together with that neceffity of it which experience difcovers, will not do it ? I believe you will acknowledge that even fuch an ufe- fulnefs, together with that neceffity, willferve the turn in thefe cafes. But then I would fain know, why the fame kind of ufefulnefs, joined with the like neceffity, will not as well do it in the cafe before us f I confefs I fee no reafon why it jhould not ; nor do I believe you can affign any. You afk here, ^whai authorizes fchoolmafiers or mafiers to ufe force on their fcholars and apprentices, if fuch an indireft, and at a diftance ufefulnefs, together "With neceffity, does not doit? lanfwer, neither yoxxv indireSi, and at a Mfiance ufefulnefs, nor the j^eceffky you fuppofe of it. For I do not think you will' fay, that any fchoolmafter has a power to teach, moch lefs to ufe force on any One's child, without the confent and authority of the father : but a father, yott will fay, has a power to ufe force to corredt his child to bring him to learning orfkill in that trade he is defigned to; and to this the father is authorized by the ufe- fulnefs and neceffity of force. This I denyi that the roere-fuppofed ufeful- nefs and neceffity of force authorizes the father to ufe it ; fof then vvhen- ever he judged it ufeful and neeeflary for his fon, to prevail with him to ap- ply himfelf to- any trade, he might ufe force upon him to that purpofe ; which I think neither ypu nor any body elfe will fay, a father has a right to do on his idl'e and perhaps married fon at thirty 01 forty years old. There is then fomething elfe in the cafej and whatever it be that autho- rizes the father to ufe force upon his child, to tnake him a prescient in it, authorizes him' alfo to chufe tliat trade, art ot Xcicnce he would have hirn a - ■ pro- A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION proficient in : for the father can no longer ufe force upon his fon, to make him attain zny art or trade, than he can prefcribe to him the art or trade he is to attain. Put your parallel now if you pleafe : The father by the ufeful- nefs and neceflity of force is authorized to ufe it upon his child, to make himaittain any art or fcience; therefore the magiftrate is authorized to ufe force to bring men to the true religion, becaufe it is ufeful and neceflary. Thus far you have ufed it, and you think it does well. But let us go on with the parallel : This ufefulnefs and neceflity of forqe authorizes the father to ufe it, to make his fon apply bimfelf to the ufe of the means and helps which are proper to make him nvhat he is dejigned to be, -no longer than it au^ thorizes the father to defi^gn what his fon fhall be, and to chufe for him the art ox trade he {hall be of: and fo the ufefulnefs and neceflity you fuppofe in force to bring men to any church, cannot authorize the magiftrate to ufe force any farther, thian he has a right to chufe for any one what church or reli- gion he fliall be of. So that if you will ftiek to this argument, and allow the parallel between a magiftrate and a father, and the right they have to ufe force for the inftrudting of their fubjedts in religion, and children in arts, you muft either allow the magiftrate to have power to chufe what religion his fubjedls fliall be of, which you have denied, or elfe that he has no power to ufe force to make them ufe means to be of it. A father being intrufted with the care and provifion for his child, is as well bound in duty, as fitted by natural love andtendernefs, to fupply the defedts of his tender age. When it is born, -the child cannot move it felf for the eafe and help of natural necefllties, the parents hands muft fupply that ina- bility, and feed, cleanfe and fwaddle it. Age having given more ft rength, and the exercife of the limbs, the parents are difcharged from the trouble' of putting meat into the mouth of the child, clothing or unclothing, or carrying him in their arms. The fame duty and afi'edtion which required fuch kind of helps to the infant, makes them extend their thoughts to other cares for him when he is grown a little bigger; it is not only a prefent fup- port, but a future comfortable fubfiftence begins to be thought on : To this fome art orfcience is neceflary, but the child's ignorance and want of .prof- pe£t makes him unable to chufe. And hence the father has a power to chufe for him, that the flexible and docile part of life may not be fquandered away, and the time of inftrudlion and improvement be loft for want of di- re<3;ion. The trade or art being chofen by the father, it is the exercife and induftry of the child muft acquire it to himfelf : But induftry ufually want- ing in children, the fpur which reafon and forefight gives to the indeavours of grown men, the father's rod and correlation is fain to fupply that want, to make him apply himfelf to the ufe of tbofe means and helps which are proper to make him what he is defigned to be. But when the child is once come to .the ftate of manhood, and, to be the pofl!eflbr and free difpofer of his goods and eftate, he is then difcharged from this difcipline of his parents, and they have no longer any right to chufe any art, fcience, or courfe of life for him, pr by force to make him apply himfelf to the ufe of thofe means which are proper A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION proper to make him be what he defigns to be. Thus the want of knowledge to chufe a fit calling, and want of knowledge of the neceflity of pains and induftry to attain ikill in it, puts a power into the parents hands to ufe force where it is neceflary to procure the application and diligencp of their child- ren in that, which their parents have thought fit to fet them to; but it gives this power to the parents only, and to no other, whilft they live ; and ;f they die whilft, their children need it, to their fubftitutes ; and there it is fafely placed : for fince their want of knowledge during their nonage, makes them want diredtion ; and want of reafon often makes them need punifh- ment and. force to excite their indeavours, and keep them intent to the ufe of thofe means that lead to the end they are diredled to, the tendernefs and love of parents will ingage them to ufe it only for their good, and generally to quit it too, when by the title of manhood they come to be above the direc- tion and difcipline of children. But how does this prove that the magiftrate has any right to force men to apply t hem/elves to the ufe of thofe means and helps which are proper to make them of any religion, more than, it proves that the magiftrate has a right to chufe for them what religion they ftiall he of? To your queftion therefore, what is it that warrants and authorizes fchool- majiers, tutors and majlers to ufe force upon their fcholars or apprentices f I an- fwer, A commiffion from the father or mother, or thofe who fupply their places ; for without that no indireSl, or at a dijiance ufefulnefs, or fuppofed necefjity, could authorize them. But then you will afk. Is it not this ufefulnefs and necefjity that gives this power to the father and mother ? I grant it. I would fain know then, iay yon, why the fame ufefulnefs joined with the like necefjity, will not as well do in the cafe before, us ? And I, Sir, will as readily tell you : becaufe the under- ftanding of the parents is to fupply the want of it in the minority of their children; and therefore they have a right not only to ufe force to make their children apply themfelves to the means of acquiring any art or trade, but to chufealfo the trade or calling they fhall be of. But when being come out of the ftate of minority, they are fuppofed of years of difcretion to chufe what they will defign themfelves to be, they are alfo at liberty to judge what ap- plication and induftry they will ufe for the attaining of it ; and then how negligent foever they are in the ufe of the means, how averfe fbever to inltruftion or application, they are paft the correction of a fchoolmafterj and their parents can no longer chufe or defgn for them what they fhall be, nor ufe force topr&oall with them to apply themfelves to the ufe of thofe means and helps which are proper to make them what they aredefigned to be. He that Imagines a father or tutor may fend his fon to fchool at thirty or forty years old, and order him to be whipped there, or that any indireSl, and at a dijiance ufefulnefs will authorize him to be fo ufed, will be thought fitter to be fent thither himfelf, and there to receive due corre(3:ion. When you have confidered, it is otherwife in the cafe of the magiftrate ufing force your way in matters of religion ; that there his underftanding is not to fupply the defed of underftanding in his fubjeds, and that only for " Y a time; A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION a time j that he cannot chufe for any of , his fubjea:S What retigion he {ball 'be of, as you yourfelf confefs ; and that this power of the magiftrate, if it be, as is claimed by you, over men of all ages, parts and indowments, you will perha|»s fee fame reafcn iaky it jhould not do in the cafe before us, as •meU as in that of fchoolMajiers and tutor Sy though you beUeve I cannot ajtgn any. But, Sir, will your indireSi and at a dijiance ufefulkefs, together with your fuppofed neceffity, authorize the rtiafter of the fhofe-makers company to take any one who comes in his hands, and pttnifh hirti for not being of the Shoe- makers company, and not coming to their guild, When he, who has a ri0S. to chufe of what trade and company ht will be, thinks it not his intereft td be a fhoe-maker ? Nor can he or any body elfe imagine that this force, this puniftiment is ufed to make him a good fhoe-maker, when it is feen and avowed that the punifliments cealfe, and t"hey are free from it who enter themfelves of the company, whether they are really flioe-makers, or m ear- neft apply themfelves to be fo or no. How much it differs from this, that the magiflrate fhould punifh men fdr not being of his church, who chufe not to be of it, and when they are once entred into the communion of it, are punifhed no more, though they are as ignorant, unfkilful, and unpradtifed in the religion of it as before : how much, I fay, this differs from the cafe I prcfpofed, I leave you to confider. For after all your pretences of ufing iotc&for thefahation of fouls, and corifequently to make men realty ChriJHans, you are fain to allow, and jo\x give reafons for it, that force is ufed only to thofe who are out of your church : but whoever are once in it, are free from force, whether they be really Chrijiians, and dpply themfelves to thofe things which zvefor thefahation of their fouls, or no. As to what you fay, that whether they chufe it or no, they ought to chufe it J for your magiftrate's religion is the true religion,, that is the queflian be- tween you and them : but be that as it will, if fbi-ce be to be uled in the cafe, I have proved that be the magiftrate's religion true or falfe, he, whilft he be- lieves it to be true, is under an obligation to ufe force, as if it were true. But fince you think your inftance of children fo weighty and prefRng, give me leave to return you your queftion ', I afk yott then. Are not parents as much authorized to ifeach their children their religion, as they are to teach them their trade, when they have defigned them to it ? May tney not as law- fully corredt them to make them learn their catechife, or the principles of their religion, as they may to make them karn C/(?««>'i*s grammar ? Or may they not ufe force to make them go to mafs, or whatever they believe to be the worfliip of the true religion, as to go to fchool, or to learn any art or trade ? . If they may, as I think you will not deny, unlefs you will lay, that none but orthodox parents may teach their children any religion : if they may, I fay then, pray tell mfe a reafon, if your arguments from the difcipline of children be good, why the magiftrate may not ufe fbfrre to bring men to- his religion, as well as parents may ufe force to inftrcrdt children, and bring; them up in theirs ? When you have confidered this, you mUperhaps find fbme diffference between the ftate of children and grown men, betwixt thofe under tutelage, and thofe who are free and at their own dii|)Cd;kU and be in- clined A THIRD XETTER FOR TOLERATION 163 dined to think that thofe reafbns which fubjeiS children i» their non-age to tjbie ufe of force, may not, nor^o concern men at years of difcretion. You tell us farther, that Commwwealths'are inftifuted for the attaining qfA. p. 18 aU the benefits lohich political government can yield: and therefor rif thefpiri- tual and epernal inter efts of men may any way be procured or advanced by politi- cftl government ^ the procuring and advancing thofe inter efts muft in all reafon be received amongst the ends of civil fqcietyt and fo confequently fall within the cpmpafs of the magiftrate's jwifdiSion. Concerning the extent of the magif- trate'fi juriididion, and the ends of civil fociety, whether the author or you have negged the queftion, which is the chief bufinefs of your 56th and two or three folli^wipg pages, I ihall leave it to the readers to judge, and bring tjbe matter, if you pleafe, to a fhorter iffue. The queftion is, whether the magiftrate has any power to interpofe force in matters of religion, or for the falvatipnof fouki The arg^^raent againft it is, that civil focieties are not conftitnted for that end, and the magiftrajte. cannot ufe force for ends for wtjich the coinmonwealth was not conftituted. The end of a commonwealth conftituted can be fuppofed no other, than what men in the conftitution of, and entring into it propofed j and that coukl be nothing but protedion from fuch injuries from other men, which diey defiring to avoid, nothing but force could prevent or remedy .: all things but this being as yvell attainable by men living in neighbourhood without the bonds of a comiponwealth, they could propofe to themfeives no other thing but this in qnk^^og their natural liberty, and putting themfeives under the }xca^it2igQ^^^ei^fovereign, who therefore had the force of all the members of the commonweith put intp his iiMidsj to make his decrees to this endhe obeyed. Now fince no man, or fociety of rnen can by their opinions in religpn, or ways of porfliip, do any rnan who differed from them, any in- jury, which he could not avoid or redrefs, if he defired it, without the help of force ; the punifhing any (|ipinion in religion, or way? of worfhip by the force given the magiftrate, could not be intended by thofe who conftituted or entred into the conamonwealth, a^id fo could be no end of it, but quite the contrary. For force. from a ftronger hand to bring a man to a religion, which another thinks the true, being an injury which in theftate of nature every one would avoid, protediion from f«eh injury is one of the ends of a commonwealth, and fo every man has a right to Toleration. If you willfay^ that commonwealths are not voluntary focieties conftituted by men, ajid by men freely ent-ered into, I fttall ds&xe. you to prove it. In the mean time allowing it you for good, that commonwealths are con- ftitijted by God for ^fld£ which he has appointed, wthoat die confent and contrwance (Sjf ^en : If you fay, that one of .thofe ends is the propa^tion of the true religion, and the falvation of mens fouls ; I &all delire you to fhew me any fuch end exprefsly ftpp^wited by God in revelation ; which fince, as yott confeffi, yc^u cannot do, ysou have rccourfe to the general law of nature ; and y^at is that ? The law of reafon, wheceby every one is com- mifi5,oiied to do good. And the propagating the true religion for the falva- tion of mens fouis, being doing good, you fay, the civil fQvereigns are com- Y 2 miffioned i64 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION miffioned and required by that law to ufe their force for thofe ends. But fince by this law all civil fovereigns are commiffioned and obliged alike to ufe their coaSiive poay yield, and other focieties not. By which ** argument it will follow, that all focieties are inftituted for one and the *• lame end, i. e. for thff attaining all the benefits that they can any nay yield,, *' By which account there will be no difference between church and flate, a ** commonwealth and an army, or between a family and the Eqft'la^0 " company J all which have hitherto been thought diftindt forts of focietiesi, " inftituted for different eiids. If your hypothefis hold good, one of the ** ends of the family muft be to preach ihe GoQ)4. and adminifter the fa- *' craments ; and one bufinefs of an army to te^h languages* and propagatc^ *' religion j becaufe thele are beaefits foH^e w«^ or other attainable by thofe *f focieties : unlefi you take want of Qom^juffion and authority to be a fuffi- •* cient impediai€ftt : and that will be fo in other cafes." To, which you P. 58 reply, Nc»^ will iffislhv^from hence, that all femties ara i^it^ed for ave and the fame end, fas ym imagine it imllj unlejs youfuppofe all f octette f inabled hy thefo'mer they are indued with to attain the fame end, which I believe no man hitherto did ever aj^m. And therefore, notmthfi^mdmg thispafitian, there may befiill as.gr^ d^S^KUQ^at ymi pleafi bet^vseiHr chweh andfiate, a common' ^mlthand an army, or between a fi^i^ and the EA^-lndizc company. Which Je~ ^eral focieties, as they are mfiitutedfir different ends, fo are J hey likewife fvr~ mjhed with d^irentpoweespn^rtionaie to their refpeSlive enas. In which tnfe reafon you give to dcftroy my infere«ce> I am to thank you for, if you underftood the force, of it, it h&mg the very fame I bring to fhew that my inference from your way of :aFgu*»g is good. I fay, that from your way of reafonings about the ends of governmeflt, " It would follow that all fo- *\ cieties were inftituted for one aud the fame end ; unlefs you take want of *f commiflion and authority to be a fufEcient impediment." And you tell me here it will not foUovr, unlefs Ifuppofe all focieties inabled by the powers th^ are indued with, to attain the fame endi which in other words is, unlefs I fuppofe all who have in their hands the force of any fociety, to have all of : them the fame commifEon. The natural force of all the members of any fociety, or oi thofe who by the fociety can be procured to affift it, is in one fenfe called the pow^r <3f that fociety. This power or force is generally put into fome one or few per- fotts hands with dtre(3:ion and. authority how to ufe-it; and thi« in another fenfe is called alfo the pswerriof the fociety : and this is the power you here -^ ipeak of, and in thefe following words, viz, ^emr,al focieties, ai^th^ arein-^ ^uted,fer difi'ermt- ends i faJikefvi^. art th^ furnijhed mith d^erent pom^s proportionate to their refpeSive ends. The power therefore of any fociety in this fenfe, is nothing but the authority aOid direSion given to thofe that have the manafement of the force or natural power of the fociety, how and to what A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION- what (Sftds to ufe it, by which commiffion the eiid^ of fbeieties are known ahd diflinguiflied. So that all fodeties wherein thofe who are intruded with the management of the force or natural power of the fociety, have commif- fion and authority to ufe the force or natural power of the fociety to attain the fame benefits, are inftituted for the fame end. And therdforcj if in all focieties, thofe who have the management of the force or natural power of the fociety, are commiffiofled or authorized to ufe that force to attain all the benefits attainable by it, all focieties are inftituted to the fame end : and fo what I faid will ftill be true, viz. *' That a family and an army, a common- " wesilth and a church, have all the fame end. And if youT hypothefis hold ^ good, one of the ends of a family muft be to preach the Gdfpel, and admi- *' nifter the facraments j and one bufinefs of an army to teach languages^ ** and propagate religion, becaufe thefe are benefits^^?^ way or othir attain-^ " able by thc^6 focieties; unlefs you take want of cornmiflion and authority •< to be a firiBcient impediment : and that will be fo tooin other cafes." Td which you have faid nothing but what does confirm it, which you will a little better fee, when you have confidered that any benefit attainable by force or natural power of a fociety, does not prove the fociety to be infti- tuted for that end, till you alfo fliew, that thofe to whom the marwige- ment of the force of the fociety is intrufted, are commiffioned to ufe it t& that end. And therefore to your next paragraph, I fliall think it anfwer enough to p^ i print here fide by fide with it, that paragraph of mine to which you intended It as an anfwer. » L. II, p. 104. *' It is a benefit to have L. Ill, p. 58; Ta ymr next '* true knowledge and, philofophy imbraced paragraph, ajhr tahat has aJ-^ "' and affented to,, in any civil fociety or reatfy been faidi I think it may '' government. Btet will you fay, there- /tiJfice-toJayasjoUcms. ThsagJ^: " fore, that it is a beneit to the fociety, perhaps the peripatetic pfeilo,- ** or one ef the ends of government, that fophy may not be true, fand *• all who are not peripatetics fhouM be perhaps it is no great matter, if *' puniihed, to make men find out the truth, it be not) yet the true religion is- *' and profefs it ? This indeed might be undsubtedly true, ^nd thougiu " thought a fit way to make feme men im- perhaps a great many have not ** bface the peripatetic philofophy, but time, , nor parts to- ftudy //6^i " not a proper way to find the truth. For philoJophyy( and perhaps it may " perhaps the peripatetic philofophy may be no great matter neither, if " not be true ; perhaps a great many have they have not] yet: all that have- " not time, nor parts to^ fttidy it j perhaps the true religion duly tender' i *« a great many who have ftudied it, cannot them, have tinte, and all, hut «« be convinced of_ the truth of it : and idiots end madmen, have parts ** therefore it cannoi. be a benefit to the likewtfe to ftudy it, as much as " commonwealtb, nor oae of the endi of it is neceffary for thenv tofiudy ** it, that thefe members of the ibeiety it. And though ^tx\i2.^s 2. ^v&m « fhould be diftuibed* and difeafed to no many who hatve ftudied the^ " purpofe, ;pBhi~ A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ** purpofe, when they are guUty of no fault, philofophy^ cannot be convinced *' For juft the fame reafon, it cannot be a of the truth of it, f which per- *' benefit to civil fociety, that men fhould haps is no great wonder) yet no *' be puniflied in Denmark for not being hu- man ever Jiudied the true reli- " therans, in Geneva for not being Calvi- gion withfuch care arid diligence *' nijis, and in Vienna for not being Papijis, as he might and ought to ufe, and *' as a means to make them find out the true with an honejl mind, but he was "religion. Forfo, upon your grounds, men convinced of the truth of it. " muft be treated in thofe places as well asin And that thofewho cannototber- *' England, for not being of the church of wife be brought to do this, Jhall "England. And then, 1 befeech you, con- be a little difturb'd and difeas'd " fider the great benefit will accrue to men to bring them to it, I take to be " in fociety by this method J and I fuppofe the intereji, not only of thofe " it will be a hard thing for you to prove, particular perfons who by this " That ever civil governments were infti- means may be brought into the *' tuted to punifti men for not being of this way jf falvation, but of the ** or that fedl in religion; however by ac- commonwealth likewife, upon " cident, indiredily and at a dijiance, it may thefe two accounts. " be an occafion to one perhaps of a thou- i. Becaufe the true religion, '^ fand, or an hundred, to ftudy that con- which this method propagates, " troverfy, which is all you exped: from jt. makes good men ; and good men ** If it be a benefit, pray tell me what benefit are always the befi fubjefts, or " it is. A civil benefit it cannot be. For members of the commonwealth ; ** mens civil interefts are difturbed, injured, not only as they do more fincerely " and impaired by it. And whztfpiritual and zealoufiy promote the public •• benefit that can be to any multitude of good than other men ; but like^ '* men to be puniflaed for diffenting from a wife in regard of the favour of " falfe or erroneous profeflion, I would have God, which they often procure "you find out; unlefs it be. a ipiritual be- to the focieties of which they are V nefit to be in danger to be driven into a members. And, " wrong way. For if in all differing feds, 2. Becaufe this care in any " one is in the wrong, it is a hundred to commoftwealth, of Gods honour 5' one but that from which any one diffents, and mens falvation, intitles it to " and is punifhed for diflenting from, is the his fpecial protection and bleffing: V wrong." So that where this method is ufed, it proves both a fpiritual and a civil benefit to the (com- monwealth. Yoii tell us, the true religion is undoubtedly true. If you had told us too, who is undoubtedly judge 'of it, you had put all paft doubt : but till you will be pleafed to determine that, it would be undoubtedly true, that the king of Denmark IB as undoubtedly judge of \t zX. Copenhagen, and the empe- ror at Vienna, as the king of E^ngland in this illand : I do not fay they judge as right, but they are by as inuch right judges, and therefore have as rpuch right to punifh thofe who diffent from Lutheranifm and Popery in thofe countries. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION countries, as any other civil magiftrate has to punifh any Diffenters from the national religion any where elfe. And who can deny but xhtit briars and thorns laid in their way by the penal laws of thofe countries, tmydofomefer- vice indtreSlly and at^ a dijiance, to bring men there feverely and impartially to examine matters of religion, and fo to imbrace the truth that mujifave them, which the bare outward profeflion of any religion in the world will not do ? This true religion which is undoubtedly true, you tell us too, never any body Jiudied withfuch care and diligence as he might and ought to ufe, and with an honeji mind, but he was convinced of the truth of it. If you will refolve it in your fhort circular way, and tell me fuch diligence as one ought to ufe, is fuch diligence as brings one to be convinced, it is a quef- tion too eafy to be afked. If I fhould deiire to know plainly what is to be underftood by it, it would be a queftion too hard for you to anfwer, and therefore I fhall not trouble you with demanding what this diligence which a man may and ought to ufe, isj nor what you mean by an honeft mind. I only afk you, whether force, your way applied, be able to produce them ? that fo tlie commonwealth may have the benefits you propofe from mens being convinced of, and confequently imbracing the true religion, which you fay no body can mifs, who is brought to that diligence, and that honeji mind. The benefits to the commonwealth are, i . That the true religion that this method propagates, makes good men, and' good men are always the befi fubjeSfs, and often procure the favour of God to the fociety they are members of. Being forward enough to grant that nothing contributes fo much to the benefit of a fociety, as that it be maple up of good men, I began prefently to give in to your method, which promifes fo fure a way to make men fo fiudy the true religion, that they cannot mifs the being convinced of the truth of it, and fo hardly avoid being really of the true religion, and confequently good men. But that I might not miftake in a thing of that cqnfequence, I began to look about in thofe countries where force had been made ufe of to propagate what you allowed to be the true religion, and found complaints of as great a fear- city of good men there, as in other places. A friend whom I difcourfed on this point, faid. It might pofiibly be that the world had not yet had the be- nefit of your method : becaufe law-makers had not yet been able to find that juft temper of penalties on which your propagation of the true religion was built; and that therefore it was great pity you had not yet difcovered this great fecret, but it was to be hoped you would. Another, who ftood by, faid, he did not fee how your method could make men it wrought on, and brought to conformity, better than others, unlefs corrupt nature with impu- nity were like to produce better men in one outward profeffion than in an- other. To which I replied. That we did not look on conformifts through a due medium ; for if we did, with you, allov/ it prefumable that all who con- formed did it upon convtSiion, there could, be no juft complaint of the fear- city of good men : And fo we got over that difficulty. The fecond benefit you fay your ufe of force brings to the commonwealth, is. That this care in any commonwealth, of God's honour and mens falvation, Z intitles J70 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION intitksit to his fpecial proteSiion andblejfing. Then certainly all commonwealths, that have any regard to the proteBion and bleffing of God, will not negleft to intitk them/elves to it, by ufing of force to promote that religion they be- lieve to be true. But I befeech you what care is this of the honour of God, and mens fahationy you fpeak of? Is it, as you have owned it, a care by pe- nalties to make men outwardly conform, and without any farther care or in- quiry to prefume that they do it upon conviSlkn, and with a fincere imbrac- ing of, and obedience to the truth ? But if the honour of Gody and mens fahationyXonii^s not in an outward conformity to any rehgion, but infome- thing farther, what bleffing they may expedl whofe care goes fo far, and then prefume the reft, which is the hardeft part, and therefore leaft to hepre- fumedythc Vrophet Jeremy, Chapt. xlviii, io, will tell you, who fays, Curfed be he that does the work of the Lord negligently : Which thofe who think it is the magiftrate's bufinefs to ufe force to bring men heartily to imbrace the truth that muji fave them, were heft ferioufly to confider. ?. 59 Your next paragraph containing nothing but pofitions of yours,, which you fuppofe elfewhere proved, and I elfewhere_ examined, it is not fit the reader fhould be troubled any farther about them. 1 once knew a gentleman, who having cracked himfelf with an ungo- vernable ambition, could never afterwards hear the place he aimed at men- tioned, without fhewing marks of his diftemper. I know not what the matter is, that when there comes in your way but the mention of Secular power in your or ecclefiaftics hands, you cannot contain your felf : We have P. 60 ihftanees of it in other parts of your letter ; and here again you fall into a fit, which fince it produces rather marks of your breeding, than arguments for your caufe, I fliall leave them as they are to the reader, if you canmake them go down with him for reafons from a grave man, or for a fober anfwer to what I fay in that and the following paragraph. P. 6i Much-what of the fame fize is' your ingenious reply to what I fay in the next paragraph, viz. " That commonwealths, or civil focieties and govern- ments, if you will believe the judicious Mr. Hooker, are, as St. Peter calls them, I Peter, \i, 13, oivB^umr/i xjia-ic, the contrivance nnd injiitution of man." To which, you fmartly reply, for your choler *vas up, it is well for St. Peter that he had tJie judicious Mr. Hooker on hisfde. And it would have been well for you too to have feen that Mr. Hookers authority was made ufe of not to confirm the authority of St. Peter^ but to confirm that fenfe I gave of St, Peters words, which is not fo clear in our tranllation, but that there are thofe who, as I doubt not but you know, do not allow of it. But this being faid when pailion it feems rather imployed your wit than your judgment, though nothing to the purpofe, may yet pevhz.p^s indirectly and at a dtjiance do fome fervice. And now. Sir, if you can but imagine that men in the corrupt ftate of na.- ture might be authorized and required by reafon, the law of nature, to avoid! the inconveniences of that ftate, and to that purpofe to put the power of go.- verning them into fome one or more men's hands, in fuch forms, and under fuch agreements as they fliQuld think fit; (which governors fa fet over them for a good xi <( A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 171 a good end by their own choice, though they received all their power from thofe, who by the law of nature had a power to confer it on them, may very fitly be called powers ordained of God, being chofen and appointed by thofe who had authority from God fo to do : For he that receives commif- fion, limited according to the difcretion of him that gives it, from another who had authority from his prince fo to do, may truly be faid, fo far as his commiffion reaches, to be appointed or ordained by the prince himfelf ) it may ferve as an anfwer to your two next paragraphs, and to fliew that there is no oppofition or difficulty in all that St. Peter, St. Paul, or the judicious Mr. Hooker fays, nor any thing, in what either of them fays, to your pur- pofe. And though it be true, thofe povvers that are, are ordained of God; yet it may neverthelefs be true, that the power any one has, and the ends for which he has it, may be by the contrivance and appointment of men. To my faying, " The ends of commonwealths appointed by the inftitutors ** of them, could not be their Ipirtual and eternal intereft, becaufe they " could not flipulate about thofe one with another, nor fubmit this intereft " to the power of the fociety, or any fovereign they fliould fet over them." You reply. Very true. Sir ; but they can fubmit to be fuhijhed in their tempO" p. gj ral intereft, if they defpife or negleSl thofe greater inierefis. How they can fubmit to be punifhed'by any men in their temporal intereft, for that which they cannot fubmit to be judged by any man, when you can fhew, I ftiall admire your politics. BefideS, if the compaft about matters of religion be, that thofe fhould be punijhed in their temporal, who negleSi or defpife their eternal intereji, who I befeech you is by this agreement rather to be punifh- ed, a fober Diffenter, who appears concerned for religion and bis falvation, or an irreligious prophane or debauched Conformift ? By fuch as defpife or neg- leSl thofe greater interejis, you here mean only Diflenters from the national reli- gion : for thofe only you punifh, though you reprefent them under fuch a defcription as belongs not peculiarly to them j but that matters not, fo long as it beft fuits your occafion. In your next paragraph you wonder at my news from the Wef -Indies, I fuppofe becaufe you found it not in your books of Europe or A/ia. But whatever you may think, I affure you all the world is not Mile-end. But that you may be no more furprized with news, let me aik you. Whether it be not poffible that men, to whom the rivers and woods afforded the fponta- neous provifions of life, and fo with no "private polTeffions of land, had no inlarged defires after riches or power, fhould live together in fociety, make one people of one language under one Chieftain, who fhall have no other power but to command them in time of common war againft their common enemies, without any municipal laws, judges, or any perfon with fuperio- rity eftablifhed amongft them, but ended all their private differences, if any arofe, by the extempory determination of their neighbours, or of arbitra- tors chofen by the parties. I afk you, whether in fuch a commonwealth, the Chieftain who was the only man of authority amongft them, had any power to ufe the force of the commonwealth to any other end but the defence of it againft an enemy, though other benefits were attainable by it ? Z 2 The A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION The paragraph of. mine to which you mean your next for an anfwer, fhall anfwer forit felf. L. II, p, io8. " You quote the author's argument, L. Ill, p. 62- " which he brings to prove that;the care of fouls is not As to yournext pa- " committed to the magiftrate, in thefe words : // is not ragraph, I think " committed to him by. God, beeauje. it appears not that God. 1 might now wholly •' has ever given any fuch authority, to one man over an- pdfs it over. I " other ^ astocompelanyonetohisreligion. This, when Jhall only tell you, *' firft I read it, Iconfefs I thought a good. argument, that as L have often. *' But you fay, this is quite bejide the bujinefs ; and the heard} Jo I. hope I *' reafon you give, is, for the authority of the magi/Irate jhall 'always hear " is not an authority to compel anyone to his religion, buP of religion efta- " only an authority to procure all hisfubjects the means of blifhed by law. " difcovering the way of falvation, and to procure withal, F or though the ma- *' as much as in him lies, that none remain ignorant of it, gijirate's authority " etc. I fearj Sir, you forget your felf. The author can add no force or " was not writing againft your new hypothefis, before fandtion to any " it was known in the world. He may be excufed, if religion, whether " he had not the gift of prophecy, to argue againft a no- true or falfe, nor " tion which was not yet ftarted. He had in view any thing to the " only the laws hitherto made,, and the punifhments, truth or validity of " in matters of religion, in ufe in the world. Thepe- his own, or any- *' nalties, as I take it, are laid on men for being of dif- religion whatfo- " ferent ways of religion: which, what is it other but ever; yet I think " to compel them to relinquifh their own, and to con- it may do much to- " form themfelves to that from which they differ ? If ward the uphold^- " this be not to compel them to the magijirate's religion ^ ing ^«^ preserving •• pray tell us what is ? This muft be neceffarily fo un- the true religion.^ •' derftoodj unlefs it can be fuppofed that the law in- within his jurifdic- "^ tends not to have that done, which with penalties it tion ; and in that " commands to be done; or that punifliments are not refpect may proper- " compuliion, not that compulfion the author com- ly enough be faidr " plains of. The law fays, tio this, and live; imbrace /o eftablifli //. " this doflrine, conform to this way of worftiip, and " beat cafe and free; or elfe be fined, imprifoned, baniflied, burned. If ** you can lliev? among the laws that have been made in England concerning" " religion, and I think I may fay any where elfe, any one that puniflies " men for not having impartially examined the religion they have imbraced or " refifed, I think I may yield you the caufe. Law-makers hiave been ge- " nerally wifer than to make laws that could not be executed : and therefore " their laws were againft Nonconformifts, which could be known ; and not " for impartial examination, which could not. It was not then befide the " author's btfnefs, to bring an argument againft the perfecutionS herein " fafhion.. He did not know that any one, who was fo free as to acknow- ** ledge that the magidrate has not an authmty to compel any one to his re- ligion. *t A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 173, " religion^ and thereby at once, as you have done, give up all the laws now " in force againft the Diffenters, had yet rods in ftore for them, and by a •' new trick would bring them under the lalli of the law, when the old " pretences were. too much exploded to ferve any longer. Have you never " heard of fucha thing as the religion ejiablijhed by law ? which is it feems " the lawful religion of a country, and to be complied with as fuch. There ** being fuch things, fuch notions yet in the world, it was not quite be-. ** ^de the author's bufinefs to alledge, that God never gave fuch authority to *' one man over another, as to compel any one to his religion. 1 will grant, if- " you pleafe, religion ejiablijhed by law is a pretty odd way of fpeakingin *' the mouth of a Chriftian, and yet it is much in fashion, as if the ma- " giftrate's authority could add any force or fandlion to any religion^ whether *' true or falfe, I am glad to find you have fo far confidered the magijlrate's' *\ authority, that you agree with the author, that he hath none to compel men " to his religion. Much lefs can he, by any eftablifhment of law, add any " thing to the truth or validity of his own, or any religion whatfoever." That above-annexed is all the anfwer y-ou think this paragraph of mine deferves. But yet in that little you fay, you^uft give me leave to take no- tice, that if, as you fay, the magijirate' s authority may do much towards the upholding and- preferving the true religion within his jurifdiction j fo alio may it do much towards the upholding and preferving of a falfe religion, and in, that refpect, if you fay true, may be faid to ejiablijh it. For I think I need not mind you here again, that it muft unavoidably depend upon his opinion, what fhall be eftablilhed for true, or reje BY YOUR SCHBME. To juftify the largenefs of the Author's Toleration, who would not have Jews, Mohammedans and Pagans excluded from the civil rights of the commonwealth, becaufe of thdr religion ; I iaid, " I feared it will hardly L4I, p. % " be believed, that we pray in earneil for their converfion, if we exclude " them from the ordinary and. probable means of it, either by driving them " from, or perfecuting them when they are amongft us." You reply ; Now I confefs Ithought men might live quietly enough among us, and enjoy the?.. -2. ' protection of the government againjl all violence and injuries, without being in- denizoned, or made members of the commonwealth ; which alone can intitle them to the civil rights and privileges of it. But as. to Jews, Mahometans. anA A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION and Pagans, if any of them do not care to live among us, unlefs they may be ad-- mitt ed to the rights and privileges of the commonwealth; the refujing them that favour is not^ Ifuppofe, to be looked upon as driving them from us, or excluding them from the ordinary and probable means of converfion j but as ajufi and fiecejfary caution in a Chrijiian commonwealth, in refpect to the members of it : Who, iffuch as prtyfefs Judaifm, or Mahometanifm, or Pa- ganifmi were permitted to injoy thejame rights with them, would be much the more in danger to befeduced by them -, feeing they would lofe no worldly advantage hyfuch a change xf their religion : Whereas if they could not turn to any of thofe religions, without forfeiting the civil rights of the commonwealth by doing it, it is likely they would confider well before they did it, what ground there was to expect that they Jhould get any thing by the exchange, which would countervail the lofs they Jhould fujlain by if. I thought proteftion and impu- nity of men, not offending in civil things, might have been accounted the civil rights of the commonwealth, which the author meant : but" you, to make it feem more, add the word privileges. Let it be fo. Live amongft you then, Jews, Mohammedans znd Pagans may ; but indenizoned they muft not be. But why ? Are there not thofe who are members of your common- wealth, who do not imbrace the truth that muji fave them, any more than they ? What think you of Socinians, Papifts, Anabaptifts, Quakers, Prefbyterians ? If they do not reject the truth necefj'ary to falvation, why do you punifh them ? Or if fome that are in the way to perdition, may be members of the commonwealth, why muft thefe be excluded upon the ac- count of religion ? For I think there is no great odds, as to faving of fouls, which is the only end for which they are puniflied, amongft thofe religions, each whereof will make thofe who are of it mifs falvation. Only if there be any fear oi feducing thofe who are of the national church, the danger is moft from that religion which comes neareft to it, and moft refembles it. However, this you think but a jufl and neceffary caution in a Chrijiian com- monwealth in refpect of the members of it. I fuppofe, for you love to fpeak doubtfully, thefe members of a Chrijiian commonwealth you take fuch care of, are.pembers alfo of the national church, whofe. religion is the true; and therefore you call them in the next paragraph, fubjects of Chriji's kingdom, to. whom he has a fpecial regard. For Diflenters, who are punifhed to be made good Chrijiians, to whom force is ufed to bring them to the true religion, and to the communion of the church of God, it is plain are not in your opinion good Chrijiians, or of the true 'religion ; unlefs you punifli them to make" them what they are already. The diflenters therefore who are already per- verted, and reject the truth that mujifave them, you are not, I fuppofe, fb careful of, left they ftiould htfeduced. Thofe who have already the plague, need not be guarded from infedion :. nor can you fear that men fo def- perately perverfe, that penalties and punifhments, joined to the light and Jirength of the truth, have not been able to bring from the opinions they have efpoufed, into the communion of the church, fhould be feduced to Judaifm, Mohammedifm, or Pa^««^, 'neither of which has the advantage of truth or in- tereft A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION tereft to. prevail by. It is therefore thofe of the national church, as Icon- elude, alfo from the clofe of this paragraph, where you fpeak of God's own peculiar peapUt whom you think 'would be much the more in danger to be feduced.by them, if they were indenizoned, Jince they would lofe no worldly advantage by fuch a change of their religiotii i. e. by quitting the national church, to turn j^^wj, Mohammedms, or Pagans. This fhews, whatever you fay of Xhefujicient means of injiruction provided by the law, how well you think the members of the national church are inftruded in the true religion. It Ihews alfo, whatever you fay of its being prefumable that they imbrace it upon conviction, how much you are fatisfied that the members of the national church are convinced of the truth of the religion they profefs, or rather herd with, fince you think them in great danger to change it for Judaifm, Mohammedifm, or Paganifm itfelf upon equal' terms, and betcaufe they Jhall lofe no worldly advantage by fuch a change. But if the forfeiting the civil rights of the commonwealth , be the proper remedy to keep men in the communion of the church, why is it ufed to keep men from Judaifm or Paganifm, and not from Phanaticifm ? Upon this account why might not Jews, Pagans and Mohammedans be admitted to the rights of the commonwealth, as far as Papifts, Independents, and Quakers ? But you diftribute to every one according to your good pleafure -, and doubtlefe are fully juftified by thefe following words : And whether this^ be not a rea- P. 3 finable and neceffary caution, any man may judge, who does but conjider within how few ages after the flood, fuperjtiti&n and idolatry prevailed over the worlds and how apt even God's' own peculiar people were to receive that mortal infeStion notwithflanding all that he did to keep them from it. What the ftate of religion was in the firftages after the flood, is fo imper- fedly known now, that as I have fhewed you in another place, you can make little advantage to your caufe from thence. And fince it was the fame cor- ruption then, which as you own, withdraws men now from the true reli- gion, and hinders it from prevailing by its own light, without the afSftance of force ; and it is the fame corruption that keeps Diffenters.., as well as Jews,. Mohammedans znd Pagans, ivQV[\imbr2i.cmg oi the truth: why different. de- grees of punishments fhould be ufed to them, till there be found in them different degrees of obftinacy, would need fome better reafon. Why this common pravity of human nature flaould make Judaifm, Mohammedifm or Paganifm more catching than any fort of nonconformity, which hinders, men from imbracing the true religion; fo that Jews, Mohammedans and * Pagans mufl, for fear of infefting others, be fhut out from the common- wealth, when others are not, I would fain know ? Whatever it was that fo difpofed the Jews to idolatry before the captivity, fure it is, they firmly refifled it, and refufed to change, not only where they might have done it on equal terms, but have had great advantage to boot ;. and therefore it is poflible that there is fomething in this matter, which neither you nor I do- fully comprehend, and may with a becoming humility fit down and confefs,, that in this, as well as other parts of his providence, God's ways are pafl: finding 176 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION finding out. But of this we may be certain from this inftance of the Jews, that it is not reafonable to conclude, that becaufe they were once inclined to idolatry, that therefore they, or any other people are in danger to turn Pa- gans, whenever ihtyjhalllofe no worldly advantage by fuch a change. But if we may oppdfc nearer an#known inftances to more remote and uncertain, look into the world, and tell me, fince Jefus Chrift brought life and im- mortality to light through the Gofpel, where the Chriftian religion meeting Judaifm, Mohammedifm or Paganifm upon equal termSj loft io plainly by it, that you have reafon to fufped: the members of a Chriftian commonwealth , VioxiSA. be in danger to be feduced to either of them, if they Jhould lofe no 'world- ly advantage by fuch a change of their religion, rather than likely to increafe among them ? Till you can find then fome better reafon for excluding Jews, etc. from the rights of the commonwealth, you muft give us leave to look oiv this as a bare pretence. Befides, I think you are under a miftake, which fhews your pretence againft admitting Jews, Mohammedans and Pagans, to the civil rights of the commonwealth, is ill grounded ; for what law I praty is there in England, that they who turn to any of thofe religions, forfeit the civil rigifts of the commonwealth by doing it '^ Such a law I defire you to Ihew mfe ; and if you cannot, all this pretence is out of doors, and men' of your church, fince on that account they would lofe no worldly advantage by the change, are in as_ much danger to be feduced, whether Jews, ' Mohammedans and Pagans are indenizoned or no. p. 3 But that you may not be thought too gracious, you tell us, That as to Pagans particularly -yoM are fo far from thinking that they ought not to be ex- cluded from the civil rights of the commonwealth, becaufe of their religion, that you cannot fee how their religion can befufferedby any commonwealth that knows andworjhips the only true God, if they would be thought to retain any jealoufy for his honour, or even for that of human nature. Thus then you order the matter j fews and Mohammedans may be permitted to live in a Chriftian commonwealth with the exercife of their religion, but not be indenizoned: Pagans may alfo be permitted to live there, but not to have the exercife of their religion, nor be indenizoned. This according to the beft of my apprehenfion is the fenfe of your words ; for the clearnefs of your thoughts, or your caufe does not always fuffer you to fpeak plainly and direftly ; as here, having been fpeaking a whole page before what ufage the perfons of Jews, Mohammedans and Pagans were to have, you on a fudden tell us their religion is not to be fufFered, but fay- not what muft be done with their perfons. For do you think it reafonable that men who have any religion, fhould live amongft you without the exer- cife of that religion, in order to their converfion ? which is no other but to make them down-right irreligious, and render the very notion of a deity infignificant, and of no influence to them in order to their converfion. It being lefs dangerous to religipn in general, to have men ignorant of a deity, and fo without any religipn ; thati to have them acknowledge a fiiperior Being, but J^et to teach or allow them to negledt or refufe worfhipping him in A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 177 in that way, that they believe he requires, to render them acceptable to him : It being a great deal lefs fault, and that which we were every one of us once guilty of, to be ignorant of him, than acknowledging a God, and not to pay him the honour which we think due to him. I do not fee there- fore how thofe who retain any jealoufy for the honour of God, can permit men to live amongft them in order to their converfion, and require of them not to honour God according to the beft of their knowledge : unlefs you think it a preparation to your true religion, to require men fenfiblyand knowingly p_ g^ to affront the Deity ; and to perfuade them that the religion, you would bring them to, can allow men to make bold with the fenfe they have of him, and to refufe him the honour which in theirconfcicnces they are perfuaded is due to him, which muft to them andevery body elfe appear inconfiftent with all religion. Since therefore to admit their perfons without the exercife of their religion, cannot be reafonable, nor conducing to their converfion ; if the exercife of their religion, as you fay, be not to hefuffered among us till they are convert- ed, I do not fee how their perfons can be fuffered among us, if that excep-. tion muft be added, //// they are converted; and whether then they are not excluded from the ordinary means of converfon, I leave you to confider. I wonder this necefllty had not made you think on another way of their having the ordinary means of converfion, without their living amongft us, that way by which in the beginning of Ghriftianity it was brought to the Heathen world by the travels and preacjiing of the Apoftles. But the fiic- ceflbrs of the Apoftles are not, it feems, fucceflbrs to this part of the com- mifllon. Go and teach all nations. And indeed it is. one thing to be an am- baflTador from God to people that are already converted, and have provided good benefices, another to be an ambafi!ador from heaven in a country where you have neither the countenance of the magiftrate, nor the devout obedi- ence of the people. And who fees not how one is bound to be zealous for the propagating of the true religion, and the convincing, converting and favingof fouls, in a country where it is eftabliftied bylaw ? who can doubt but that there thofe who talk fo much of it are in earneft ? Though yet fome men will hardly forbear doubting, that thofe men, however they pray for it, are not much concerned for the converfion of Pagans, who will nei- ther go to them to inftruft them, nor fuffer them to come to us for the means of converfion. It is true what you fay, what Pagans call religion is abomination to the Al- mighty^- But if that requires any thing from thofe who retain any jealoufy far the honour of Godi it is fomething more than barely about the place where thofe abominations fliall be committed. The true concernyor the honour of God is not, that idolatry fhould be ftiut out of England, but that it ftioujd be lefiTened every where, and by the light and preaching of the Gofpel be baniftied out of the world. If Pagans and idolaters are, as you fay, the great eft dijhonour conceivable to God Almighty, they are as much fo on the other fide of Tweed, or the fea, as on this r for he from his thfone equally beholds all the dwellers upon earth, Thofe therefore who are ixuXy jealous for the honour of God, will not, upon the account of his honour, be concerned for A a their A THIRt) LETTER FOR TOLERATION their being in this of in that place^ while there are idolaters in the world j but that the number of thofe who are fuch a difiionour to him, fliould every day be as much as poffible diminiftied, and they be brought to give him hi& due tribute of honour and praife in a right way of worihip. li is \n this that 2.}edoufy, which is in earneft for God's homur, truly fliews it felf, in Wifhing and indeavouring to abate the abominationt and drive idtt- latry out of the world, not in driving idolaters out of any one country, or lending thena away to places and company, where they fhall find more iii-' cburagenient to k-. It is a fk.tztigQ jealmfy for the hmonr of God, that loofcs not beyond ftich a mountain or fiver as divides a Chriftian and Pagaa coimr try. Where-ever idolatry is committed, there God's honour is concerned ; and thither tntntjeakufy for Ms honour, if it be fincere indeed, will eadtend, and be in pain to kflert and take away the provocation. But the place God- i« provoked and difhbnoured in^ which is a narrow confiderafion ia refpe^ of the Lord of all the earth, will no othej-wife imploy their zeal, who are in earneft, than as it may more or lefe conduce to the conv^rfiOrr. of the of- fenders. But if yowv jtakttjf for the honour of God, ingages you fo far aga-kift mens commitVirig idolatry in certain places, that you think thofe ought to be ex- cluded from the rights of the commonwealth, and not to be fuffeifed to be denizlon^, vs^ho according to that place in the Romans brought by you, are •without excufe, beeaufe tiohen they knew God, they glorified him not as God, but becatnetiain in their itnagimtims, and changed the glory of the itcQtruptiMe Gffd into an image ntad& like to corruptible man. I fhall only change fome of the words in the text you cite out of Ifaiah, I have baked part thereof on the coals, and eaten it, and JhaUI make the ref due thereof a God ? Jhall I fall down fo that IV hi^h comes of a plant? and fo leave them with you to corifider whether yourjealoufy in earneft- carries you fo far as you talk of; and whe- ther when you have looked about you, you are fl:ill of the mind, that thofe who do fuch things fliouM be disfraachifed and fent away, and the exercife of no fuch religion be any where permitted amongft us ? for thofe things ajre rro lefs an abomiination to God under a Chriftian than Pagan name. O^e Word more I have to f^y to yo\iv jealoujy for the honour of God,, that if it be any thing more than in talk, it will fet it felf no lefe earneftly againft other abominations, and the praftifers of them, than againft that of idolatry, As^ to that in Jobt. xxxi, 26, 27, 28, where he %s idolatry is t»be punijl^-- cd by the judge ,■ this place alone, were there no ether, is fufficient to confirm, their opinion, who conclude that book to be writ by a Jew. And bow little the pumihiug of idolatry in that commonwealth concerns bur prefeat cafe, I refer you for information to the author's letter. But how does your J€4-» loufy for the honour of God, Carry you to an exelufioa of the Pagan reli- gion from amongft you, but yet admit of the Jewifli aad Mohammedan t Or is not the honour of God concerned in their denying our Saviour? If we are to look*upOn fob to have been writ before the time of M^s^ as the author would have it, p. 32,, and fe by a llranger to the comnioni- wealthi A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION wfeahh^f Ifr(id-y it is plain the general apoilacy }ie lays fomuch ftrefs on, was not jpread ib &r, btrt that there was a goyernmefit by his own cpnfcf- fion, Jeftahliflied'out pf Juda^at free from, nay zealous againft ^idolatry : And •why ihere might not be njanymore as well as this, which we he^r of but by chance, it will conpern him tp fhew. You go on. But as to the cenverting Jews, Mahometans and Pagans p. to Chrijimmty, J fear there mil be no great progrefi-mt^de in it, till Qkrijiians come io a better, agreement and union among themfeh^s. I am Jure our Saviour prayedthat.allibfitjhuldbeli^^ in hinh might be one in the Father and him, (i. e, Ift^pofa'm that holy religion ii. ii. An agreement in truths neceffary to falvation, and the maintaining of charity and brotherly lcin,dnefs with the diverlity of opinions in other things, is that which wijl very well conflft with Chriftian unity, and is all poffibly to be had .in; this world, in fuch an incurable weaknefs and difference of niens underftandings. This probably woijld 'contribute more to the converlion of feit/s, Mohammedans and Pagans, if there were propofed to them and others, for their admittance into the church, only the plain and fimple truths of the Gofpel neceffary :to falvation, than all the fruitlefs pudder and talk about uniting Chriftians in matters of lefs moment, according to the draught and prefcription of a certain fetof rrjen any where. What blame will lie on the authors ■ md prgmoters of feSis and divifons, and, let me add, aiiii^iofities amongft Chriftian s, when Chriji comes to make inqui- ftim why no more fews, Mohammedans and Pagans were converted, they who are concerned ought certainly noell to confider. And to abate in great rneafure this mifchief for the future, they who talk fo much oi feSls and divi/ions, would do well to confider too, whether thofe are not moft authors and pro- moters of ifcfts and divifions, who impofe creeds, ceremonies, and articles of mens making i and make things not neceffary to falvation, the neceffary .terms of communion, excluding and driving from them fuch as out of con- fcience and perfualion cannot affent and fubmit to them ; and treating them A a 2 as A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION as if they were utter aliens from the chifrchof God; and fuch as were de- fervedly fhut out as unfit to be members of it : wha narrow Chriftianity within bounds of their own making, and which the Gofpel knows nothing of; ^nd often for things by themfelves confelfed indifFerent, thruft men out of their communion, and then punifh them for not being of it. Who fees not, but the bond of; unity might he preferved, in the different perfuafions of men concerning things not neceflary to fdvation, if they were not made neceflary to church communion ? What two thinking men of the church of England are there, who differ not one from the other in feveral material points of religion, who neverthelefe are members of the fame church, and in unity one -with another ? Make but one of thofe points the Shibhokfb of a ^arty, and ered: it into an article of the national church, and they are prefently divided ; and he of the two, whole judg- ment happens not to agree with national orthodoxy, is immediately ciit off from communioa. Who I befeech you is it in this cafe that makes the fed ? Is it not thofe who contraft the church of Chrift within limits of their, own eontrivance ? who by articles and ceremonies of their own forming, feparate from their communion all that have not perfuafions which juft jump with their model ? - It is frivolous here to pretend authority. No man has or can have au- thority to fhut any one out of the church of Chrift, for that for which Chrift himfelf will not fhut him out of heaven. Whofoever does foj is truly the author and promoter of fchifm and divifion, fets up afe£t, and tears in pieces the church of Chrift, of which every one who believes, and pradlifes what is nectfTary to falvation, is a part and member j and cannot, without the guilt of fchifm, be feparated from, or kept out of its external communion. Ib xh'i^ lording it over the' heritage of God, i Peter, v, 2, 3, and thus o-y^r- feeing by impofition on the unwilling, and not confenting, which feems to be the meaning oi St. Peter, moft of the lafting fedts which fo mangle Chriftianity, had their original, and continue to have their fupport : and were it not for thefe eflablifhed fedts Under the ipecious names of national churches, which by their contracted and arbitrary limits of communioiy, juftify againft thefhielves the feparation and like narrownefs of others, the difference of opinions which do not fo much begin to be, as to appear and be owned under Toleration, would either make no fetl nor divifioff j o<. elfe, tf they were fo extravagant as to be oppofite to what is neceffary to falvation, and fo neceflitate a feparation, the clear light of the Golpel^ joined with a flridl difcipline of manners, would quickly chafe them out of the world. But whilft needlefs impofitions, and moot points in divinity are eftablifhed by the penal laws of kingdoms, and the fpecious pretences; of authority,, what hopes • is there, that there fhould be fuch an union, amongft Ghriftians any where, as might invite, a rational Turk or Infidel to imbrace a religion, whereof he is told they have a revelation :^om God, which yet in fome places he is not fuffered to read, and in noplace fhall he be permitted to underftand-for himfelf, or to- follow according to the beii A THIRD 'LETTER FOR TOLERATION i^Si of his underftahding, when it (hall at all thwart, though in things confeffed- not neceffary to falvationy any ctf thofe MeSi points of dodlrine, difcipline, or outward wor/hip, whereof the national church has been, pleafedto make up its articles, polity, and ceremonies ? And I afk, what a fober fenfible heathen muft think of the divifions amongft Chriflians not owing to Tole- ration, if he fhould find in an iflaiid; where Chriftianity feems to be in its greateft purity, the ibuth and north parts eftabliihing churches upon the dif- ferences of only whether fewer or more, thus and thus chofen, fliould go- vern ; though the revelation they both pretend to be their rule, fay nothing diredly one way or the other : each contending with fo much eagernefs> that they deny each Other to be churches of Chriflr, that is,, in effedb, to be true Chriflians ? To which if one fhould add trapfubflantiation, confubflantia- tion, real prefence, articles and diftin£tions fet up by men without autho- rity from Scripture, and other lefs differences, which good Chriftian-s may difient about without in dangering their falvation, eJiaMJbed by law in the feveral parts of Chriflendom : I aflc. Whether the magiflrates interpofing ia matters of religion, and eflablifhing national churches by the force and pe- nalties of civil laws, with their diflindl, and at home reputed neceifary,, confcffions and ceremonies, do not by law and power authorize and perpe- tuate fe<51:s among Chriflians, to the great prejudice of Chriflianity,. andi fcandal to Infidels, more than any thing that can arife from a mutual Tole- ration, with charity and a good life ? Thofe who have fo much i-n their mouths, the authors effeSls- and di~ mjixms, with fo little advantage to their caufe, I fhall defire to confider, whe- ther national churches eflablifhed as now they are, are not as much fedls. and divifions in Chriflianity, asfmaller colleftions, under thenameof diflinft churches, are in refpedt of the national- ? only with this difference, that thefe fob- divifions and difcountenanced fefe, wanting power to inforce their peculiar doiftrines and difcipline, ufually live more friendly like Chriftian5„ and feem only to demand ChrifHan liberty i whereby there is lefs appear- ance of unchriflian divifion among them : Whereas thofe national fefts,. being backed by the civil power, which they never fail to make ufe of, at leafl as a pretence of authority over their brethren, ufually breathe out no- thing but force and perfecution, to the great reproach,, fliame, and. difho- nour of the Chriflia« religion. J faid, ':*. That if the magiiftrates would feverely and impartially fet them- L. n:^^^ 72 " felves again/l vice in whomfoever it is found, and leave men to their own " confciences in their articles of faitli, and ways of worfhip, true religion " would fpread wider, and be more fruitful in the lives of its profefTors,. *^ than ever hitherto it has done by the impofing of creeds and ceremonies;" Here I call only immorality of manners, vwe ;. you on the contrary, in your anfwer, give the name of liice to errors in opinion,, and. differ-ence in. ways P- 1% of worfhip from the national church: For this is the matter in q.ueflion between uSj exprefs it as you pleafe. This being a coptefl only about the fignification of a fhort fyllable in xh.Q Englifo tongue, we muH leave, to tbe maflers A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION mafters of that language to judge which of thefe two is the proj^r ufe of it. But yet, from my ufing the word vice, you conclude prefcntly, taking it in your fenfe, not mine, that the magiftrate has a power in Englawd, for England we are fpeaking' of, to puhifli Diffehters from -the national re- ligion, becaufe it is a vice. I will, if you pleafe, in what I faid, change the word vice into that I meant by it, and fay thus, If the magiftrates will feverely and impartially fet themfelves againft the diflionefty and debauchery of mens liwes, and fuch immoralities as I contra-diftinguifli from errors in fpeculatiye opinions of religion, and ways of worlhip : and then- pray fee how, your anfwcr will look, for thus it runs ; Itfeems then nmtb you the re- jeSing the true religion, and refufing to •werjhip God in decent ways frejcrihed hy thafe to whom God has left the ordering of thofe matters, are not comprehended in the name vice- But jrou tell me. If I except ibefe things, and will not allow them to be called by the name of vice, perhaps ather men may think it as reafanahle to except fame other things [/. e. from being called vices] which they have a kindnefs for : Ipor ivfiance, fome may perhaps except 'arbitrary dmorce, polygamy, concubinage, .fimple fornication, or marrying within degrees thought 'forbidden. L^t them except thefe, and if you will, drnnkeniaeafs, theft, and murder too, from the name of vice ; nay, call them vertues : Will they, by their calling them io, be exempt from the magiftarate's power of punifliing them? Or can they claim an impunity by what . I have faid ? Will thefe immoralities by the names any one fhall give, or forbear to give them, be- come articles of faith, or ways of worjbip ? Which is all, as I cxpreily fay in the words you here cite .of mine, that I would have the magiftrates leave men to their own confciences in. But, Sir, you have, forme, liberty of confcience to ufe words in what fenfe you pleafe; only I think, where an- other is concerned, it favours more of ingenuity and love of truth, rather to mind the fenfe of him that fpeaks, than to make a dull and noife with a miftaken word, if any fuch advantage were given you. You fay. That fome men would through carelefnefs never acquaint themfelves with the truth which muji fave them, \without being forced to do it, whkh (ymi fuppofe) may be very true, natwithjianding that fas ^fayj fome are called at the third hour, fame at the ninth, and fome at the devenih hour; and whenever they are called, they imbrace all the truths neceffary to falvation. At leaf 1 do not fhew why it may not : And therefore this may be no ftp for any thing I have faid to prove it to be one. This I take not to be an anfwer to my ar- gument, which was, That fince fome are not called till the eleventh hour, no body can know who thofe are, who would never^ acquaint themfelves with thofi truths that muJi fave them, without force, which is therefore neceffary, an^may indireSlly and at a dijiance do thtvafome fervice. Whether that was my argurhent or no, I leave the reader to judge : But that you may not miftake it now again, I tell you here it is fo, and needs another anfwer. Your way of ufing punilbments in fhort is this. That all that conform not to the national church, where it is true, as in England, Ihould be punifli- ed ; what for ? To make them confider. This I told you had fomething of im- A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION i% imprafticable. To which you reply. That you ufed the word only in another P. 24 fenfe, which I miftook : Whether I miftook your meaning in the ufe of that word or no, or whether it was natural fo to take it, or whether that opinion which I charged on you by that iniftake, when y©u tell u-s, That not 'p. /^^ examining, is indeed the next end for which they are^puni/Jjedy be not your opi- nion, let us leave to the reader : For when you have that word in what fenfe you pleafe, what I faid. ,will be neterthelefs true, "viz. " That to ** punifli.DifTenters* as DiiTertters, to. make them confider, has fomething ** impradticable in it, unlefs not to be of the national religion, and not tO' *' confider, be the fame thing". Thefe wcTrds you* anfwer nothiijg to, hav- iag as you thought a greai advantage of talking about my miftake of your word only. But unlefs you will fuppofe, not to be of the national church, and not to confidier, be the feme thing,, it will follow, that to punifh Dif- jfenters,. as I>ifienters, to make them; confider, has fomething erf" impracti- cable rn it. The law punifhes all Diffenters : For what ? Toi make thena all con- forrau, that's evident ; To what end ? To make them all confider, lay you : That cannot be, for it fays nothing of it ; nor is it certain that all DifFen- ters have not eonfidered -, nor is there any care taken by the law to in- quire whether they have coniidered, when they do conform ; yet this was the end intended by the magiiirate. So then with you it is practicable and allowable in making lajws, for the legiflator to lay punilhments by law on -men, for aYi end which they may be ignorant of, for he fays nothing of it ; on men, whowi he never takes care to- inquire, whether they have done it or no, before he relax the punifhment, which had no other next end, but to> make them do it. But though he feys nothing of confidering, in laying on the penalties, nor aiks any thixig about it, when be takes them off; yet every body mufl underfland that he fb meant it. Sir, Scmcho' Pancha in the go- vernment of his iiland, did not expedt that men fliould underftandhis mean- ing by his gaping : But in another iiland it feems, if you had the manage- ment, you- would not think it to have any thing of impracticable or impo- litic in it : For how far the provifion of means of inftrudlion takes this oif,. we {hall fee in another place. 'And laftly, to lay punifliments on men iot an end which is already attained, for fome among the Diffenters may have eonfidered, is what other law-makers look on as impra^icable, or at ieaft unjoft. But to this you anfwer, in* your ufual way of circle. That jf Ip, 74. fitfpofe-yo\i,are.forpimijhing Diffenters whether they confider or no, I am in a great mifiai^; for the Dijjenters f which is my wordy not yours) wham you are for funtjking, are only fuch as reje£t the true religian propofed to them, with reajbns and arguments fificient to convince them cf the truth of it, who there- fore canne^er befuppofed to confider thofe reafons and arguments as. they oughts teshiyi they ferfift in rejeBing that religion, or (in my language] continue Yi^xir Centers ; far if- they did fo confider them^. they, would not cantinue Di/fenters, Of the faatt for which men were to be punifhed, diftinguiihed from die md for which they were to be puniihed, we heard nothing, as I remember. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION in the firft draught of your fcherae, which we had in " ^he argument con- Jideredi" etc. But I doubt not but in feme of your general terms you will be able to find it, or what elfe you pleafe : For now having fpoken out, that men, who are of a different religion from the true, which has been tendredthem tioith fufficient evidence, (and who are they whom the 'wife and be- nign difpofer and governor of all things has notfurnijhed with competent' means of falvation) are criminals, and are by the magiftrate to be punifhed as fuch, it is neceflary your fcheme fhould be compleated i and whither that will carry you, it is eafy to fee. But pray. Sir, are there no Conformifts that fo reje^ the true religion f and would you have them punifhed too, as you here profefs ? Make that pradiicable by your fcheme, and you have done fomething to perfuade us that your end in earneft, in the ufe of force, is to make men conjider, un- derftand, and be of the true religion j and that the rejfeBing-the true reli- gion tendered with fufficient evidence t is the crime which bond fide you would have punifhed ; and till you do this, all that you may fay concerning punifli- ing men to make them confider as they ought t to make them receive the true religion, to make them imbrace the truth that muji fave them, etc. will with all fober, judicious, and unbiaffed readers, pafs only for the mark of great zeal, if it fcape amongft men as warm and as fagacious as you are, a harflier name : whilft thofe Conformifts, who negledt matters of religion, who re- jeSi the faving truths of the Gol^el, as vifibly and as certainly as any Dif- fenters, have yet no penalties laid upon them. You talk much of confidering and not confidering as one ought ; of imbrac- ing and rejeSiing the true religion, and abundance more to this purpofe ; which all, however very good and favoury words, .that look very well, when you come to the application of force, to procure t|iat end exprefled in them, amount to no more but Conformity and -Non -conformity. If you fee not this, I pity you ; for I would fain think you a fair man, who means well, though you have not light upon the dght way to the end you propofe : But if you fee it, and perfift in your ufe of thefe godd expreffions to lead men into a miftake in this matter j confider what my Pagans and Mohammedans ^ould do worfe to ferve a bad caufe. Whatever you may imagine, I write fo in this argument, as I have before my eyes the account I fhall one day render for my intention and regard to truth in the management of it. I look on my felf as liable to error' as others ; but this 1 am fure of, I Would neither impofe on you, my felf, nor any body J and fhould be very glad to have the truth in this point clearly eftablifhed : and therefore it is, I defire you again to examine, whether all the ends you name to be intended by your ufe of force, do in effedl, when force is to be your way put in pradice, reach any farther than bare outward Conformity ? Pray confider whether it be not that which makes you fo fhy of the ttvvsx Diffentirs, which you tell me w mine not your word. Since none are by your fcheme to be punifhed, but thofe who do not conform to the national religion. Diffeniers, I think, is the proper name to call them by; A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION iB^ by } and I can fee no reafon you have to boggle at it, unlefs your opinion has fomethingin it you are unwilling fhould be fpoke out, and called by its right name : But whether you like it or no, perfecution, and perfecution of Dijenters, are names that belong to it as it ftands now. And now I think I may leave you your queftion, wherein you afk. But?. 24 cannot Dijenters be punijhedfor not being of the national religion, as the fault, and yet only to make them conjider, as the end for which they are punijhed^ To be anfwered by your felf, or to be ufed again, where you think there is any need of fo nice a diftinftion, as between the fault for which 'men are punifhed by laws, and the end for which they are punifhed : For to me I confefs it is hard to find any other immediate end of punifliment in the in-* tention of human laws, but the amendment of the fault punifhed -, though it may be fubordinate to other and remoter ends. If the law be only to punifli Non-conformity, one may truly fay, to cure that fault, or to pro*- duce conformity, is the end of that law ; and there is nothing elfe imme^ diately aimed at by that law, but conformity j and whatever elfe it tends to as an end, muft be only as a confequence of conformity, whether it be edi- fication, increafe of charity, or faving of fouls, or whatever elfe may he thought a confequence of conformity. So that in a law, which with pe- nalties requires conformity, and nothing elfe ; one cannot fay, properly I think, that confideration is the end of that law, unlefs confideration be a confequence of conformity, to which conformity is fubordinate, and does naturally conduce, or elfe is necefiary to it. To my arguing that it is unjuft as well as impradticable, you reply. Where P. 24, the national church is the true church ofGod^ to which all men ought to join them^ fehes, and fufficient evidence is offered to convince men that it isfo .- There it is a fault to be out, of the national church, becaufe it is a fault not to be con- vinced that the national church is that true church of God. And therefore fnce there mens not being fo convinced, can only be imputed to their not confider- ing as they ought, the evidence which is offered to convince them -, it cannot be unjuft to punijh them to make them fo to confder it. Pray tell me, which is a man's duty, ' to be of the national church firfl; j or to be convinced firft, that its religion is true, and then to be of it ? If it be his duty to be convinced firftj why then do you punifh him for not being of it, when.it is his duty to be convinced of the truth of its religion, before it is his duty to be of it ? If you fay it is his duty to be of it firft; why then is not force ufed to him afterwards, though he be ftill ignorant and unconvinced ? But you anfwer. It is his fault not to be convinced. What, every one's fault every where ? No, you limit it to places where fujicient evidence is offered to con- vince men that the national church is the true church of God. To which pray let me add, the national church is fo the true churcb of God, that no body out of its communion can imbrace the truth that muft fave him, or be in the way to falvation. For if a man may be in the way to falvation out of the national church, he is enough in the true church, and needs no force to bring him into any other : For when a man is in the way to falvation, there Bb ' is i36 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION is no neoeffitj ■of force to brm^ him into any churcli of any denominatk>tJ, in ofder to bis falyation. So that not to hs of the national churdi, though tsMCj wiU not be a fault which the magiftfate has a right to punifk, until Jufficient evidence is oifered to prove that a man cannot be faved out of ft. P. SI iW^F^ jSlace you "teld us, that fey fi^diemt eviitme you meanfaebas isMtcer- tfidnly mn iffent ; when you bave oifered fuch evidence to convince men, that the national church, ai»y wfeere, is ib the true church, that men can- not be faved out of its communion, I tbinlc I may allow them to be fo'fauky as to deferve what ^isKojfhmeajt you fliall think fit- if you Jiope to mend the matter hy the fctHowing words, where you fay^ diat iwbeue fuch ^laidence P. 25 zV offered i there mens mot ieia^ canvmced, can only heimpjMd tki mensn^t con- JiSermg as they oughts diey will not belp you. For to compder as -they ■ pug^f, being fey yowr own interprfltation, to confider Jo m not to rejeSi i 4men your P. 4oanfwer amounts to ^u& thus much. That it is afauU not to he ammnced that the national church ir the true church if Gad, where fyficieat^njideitce istSet^ t0 convince men that it is fo. Su^kimi^ evidence is ^lei) as nviU ie0(^tmn^ ge^it affimt with thofe who confider as they loitgixt, i. e. whs esnfider Jb as not ts rc" jgS, -or to be moved iieetrtily to imbrace, which I think is to be convinced. Wbo can have Ae heart now to deny apy of diis ? Can tbene fee any thing fiirer, than that mens not being convinced, is to be imputed to tbem if they are not convinced, where fadi esridence is offered to them as does txjii^ince ^3em ? And to punifli all fuch you bave my free confent. Whether all you fay have any thing more in it than this, I s^pestl to my readers ; and flioujd willingly do it to you, did not I fear, that the jumbling of thofe < good and plaufible words in your bead, c£ fufficient efaidence, ■con- fider as one ought, etc. might a little jargogle your moughts, ^d l^ad you hoodwinked the round of your own beaten circle. This i« a da«ger thofe are much expofed to, who accuftom themfelv.es to relative and doubtful terms, and fo put together, tbat though afijnder they fignify fomething, yet when their meaning comes to be caft up as they are placed, it amounts to juft nothing. p. 25 You go on. What jujiiee it would htfor the magifirate to ftmijh one fir not being ^Cartefian, it will be time enough to confider when I have proved it to be as necefiaryfir men to be Gartefians, as it is to be Chrifiians, or members of God's church. This will be a much better anfwer to what I faid, wh^n you bave proved tbat to be a Chrijiian or a member of God's church, it is neceffary for a DifTenter to be of the church of England. If it be not juftice to punffli a man for not being a Cartefian, becaufe it is not as neceffary to be a Carte- fian, as to be a Chriftian -, I fear the fame argument will hold againfl punifh- ing a man for not ufing the crofs in baptifm, or not kneeling at the Lord's Supper J and it will lie on you to prove, tbat it is as neceffaty to ufe the crofs in baptifm, or kneeling at the Lord's Supper, as it is to be a Chriflian : For if they are not as neceffary as it is to be a Chriftian, you cannot by your own rule, without injuflice, punifh men for not conforming to a church wherein they are made an indifpenfible part of conformity ; and by this rule A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION i%7 rule it win be injuftice to punifli any man for not being; of that church wherein , any thing is required not neceflary to felvation j for that, I think, is the ttecciflity of being a Chriftian* To fliew the unreafonabknefs of punifliing DiiTenters to make them exa- L. II, p. 85 mine, I faid, " that fo they were punifhed for not having offended againft a " law; for there is no law of the land that requires them to examine." Your nepiy is, Th^ you think the contrary is plain enetigh : For where the?. 4^^ laws froMtde fuffteient means of inJiruSlion in the true religiofi, and then require all men to iinbrace that religion^ you think the mofi natural conJiruBion ofthofe hws is, that they ritpire men to hnbrace it upon infiruSiion and conviSlion,- as it cannot be expected they Jhould do without examining the grounds upon whiehit Jiands. Your anfw^ • were very true^ if they could not imbrace without examining and con vidion. But fined there is a fhorter. way to imbracingy which coft no more pains than walking as far as the church, your anfwer no more proves that the law requires examining, than if a man att Hdr- •wich being fubpoenaed to appear in fFeJiminJier-Hall next term, yon fliouM lay the fubpoena required hinsi to come by fea, becaufe there was fufficienC means providfed for his pdffage; in the ordinary boat that by appointm'^nt goes conftantly from Harwich to LsTidsn : But he taking it to be more for hh eafe and difpatcb, goe? the fhorter way by land, and finds that having made his appearance in court as was required,, the law is fatisfied, and ther^ is no inquiry raade„ what way he came thi'ther. If thereforer men can imbrace fo aS' to fktisfy the law without examining, a. p. 6, etc. and it be true that -they fo fy from the means ef right information,, are fo Mglig&nt in, and at j and that is the proper courfe- *« to have offenders puniflied- For you do not, I hope, intend to punifK *' any fault by a law, which you do not name in the law ; nor make a latw *■' againft any fault you would not have punifhed. ' And now, if you are " fincere, and in earneft, and are, as a fair man fliould be, for what your «♦ words plainly fignify,. and. nothing elfe -, what will fuch a law ferve for ? •' Men in the wrong way^are to.be punijhed: but who are in the wrong way,. *' is the queflion. You have no more reafon to determine it againfl one,. ♦' who differs from you, than he has to conclude againfl you, who differ '-' from him : No, not though you hav§ the magiflcate and the national ''^ church on your fide. For if to differ from them be to be in the wrong '« way-; you who are in the right way in England, will he in the wrong ivny; " in France. Every one here mufl be judge for himfelf : And your law " will reach no body, till you have convinced him he is^in the wrong 'way : " and then there will be no need of pUnifliment to make him confider j un- *-' lefs you will affirm again what you have denied, and have men punifhed " for imbracing the religion, they believe to be true, when it differs from *•* yours or the public. " Befides being in the- wrong way, thofe who you would have punifhed,. - " have no /way at all in the matter, and therefore with little or no examination. " of the proper grounds of it j what human, method, can be ufed to bring them- *' to act lik&. meni in an affair offuch confequenc-e, and to make awifer and more *•' rational choice^ but that of laying fuch penalties upon them, as may ballance- " the weight of tiwj} prejudices which inclined them to prefer a falfe way before^ *' the true, and recover them to fa much fobriety andrefection, asferkiifiytoput' *-'■ the: quejiion to themfelves., Whether it be really worth the while to undergo *'fuch inco,n'veniences for adhering to a religion, which, for any thing they knoWr " may be falfe, or for rejecting another (if that be the. cafe) which, for any *•' thing they kmw^ may be true, till they have brought it to the bar, of reafon, "' and given it a fair trial thgre % Here you again bring in fuck. zs. prefer a *^ falfe way before a true : to which having anfwered already,. I fliall here " fay no more, but, That fince our church will not allow thofe to be in a ^'falfe^way who are out of the church of Rome, becaufe the church of " Rome, which pretends infallibility, declares hers to be the only true way y. " certainly no one of our church, nor any other, which claims not, infalli- ** bility, can require any one to take the teftimony. of any. church, as afuf» " ficient proof of the truth of her own dodlrine. So that true andfalfci " as it commonly happens, when, we fuppofe them for ourfelves, or oup " party, in effedt, fignify juft nothing, or nothing to the purpofe ; unlefs *''we can think that true or falfe in England, which, will not be £o at Roma ^' or Geneva ; and vice verfd^. As for the reft of the defcription of thofe^ ** on whom you are here laying penalties,; I befeechyou confider. whether is» *' will not belong to any of your church, let it be what it will. ~ Conlider, " I fay, if there be none in your church who have imbraced her r^eligion upon "ffich inducements as ought to have nofway at all in the matter, and therefors *' with little or no examination of the proper grounds of it ; who have not been " inclined by prejuSces; who do not adhere to a religion 'tmhich for any things " they know may be falfe;. and who have rejeSi^d another,, whickfor, any thing "■ they, know may be trud If you. have any fuch in your communion, and* *f it will bean admirable, though-. I fear but a little flock thathas none fuch» " *' in, it, confider well what you have done. You have . pr£gared rods. fo& ^* them,., for which, I imagine, they, will con. you no thanks.. For to make *f any tcjerable fenfe of what you here propofe, it muft' be underftood tha^ <* you would have men. of all religions punished, to. make them.- confides " whetherr A THIRD LEttER FOR TOLERATION *♦ nvMher it k redfy teorth the wbite to tef^r^futk incoryaenmmy for ad- ** tiering to a relmm, ijeihiekfif^ any thin'g th^ know May be f alp. If you hoper *« to aVt)i^ that, by what you have faid of (ru^ artifalfe; srul pretend that •*the hi^i^QkAfrefiteAee of the true -way in- your dbarch, ought to preferve *' its members from ybur ptintftiment j 3niu manifeftly trifle. For every " ehu«ih's teftimony* that it! has chofen the true -may, muft be taken for it ** felf ; and then none will be liable j and your new invention of pufliihnygnt *' is come' to nothing : Or elfe the differing ehurdhes teftimonies rAuflf be " taken one foT another ; and then they will be all oat of the true way, And *' your church need penalties as well as the reft. So that, upon fcm prin- " ctplies, they mufb all or none be puftifhed. Chuie which you pleafe; one *' of them, I think, yo^ cannot efeape. " What you fay in the next words ; Where in^ttSiion is flifly fefufedi and *' all adrnonitions and ferfiidftoifs prove vain afftd inej^Bnd ; differs nothing *"* but in the way of eS:preffifig', from dectf to all perfuajio'ns : And fo that iS " anfwered already. " In a«oeher place, you give' us another defcription of thofe ywi think *' ought to be puniftied, in thefe words; Thofe nsho- refufi to itribrace the doc- '^ trine, andjkbmit to the fpirkuai government of fh'e 'propet nmifters ^ re- " ligion, who byfpecid defignatim, are appointed to exhort, admonijfh, reprove, " etc. Here then, thofetb be ptftrifhed, are ftuch fnho refufe to iifibraee the *' difSirin^, andfubmitto the' goiserrtment ef the proper miniji'ers of religion. *' Wheteby we are as much ftill af uncertainty as we were before, who thole '•^ are who, by your fcheme, and laws- fuitable to it, are Va be punkhed ; *' fince every eh-urch has, as it thinks, its proper mincers of religion : And ** if you mean thofethat refitfe fo imbrace the d&etrine, andfubmit to the go~ *' vernment of the minifieh of another church ; then all men will be guilty, " and' muft be punifhed, even thoffe of yoSr own church as well as others. " If you mean th'ojh who fefufe, etc. themiftijlers of their own church, very " few will incur your penalties-: Blit if by i\itk-prdper mincers of religion, " the minifters of fortie particular chiirch are intended, why do your ndt " name it? Why are you fo refefved in a matter, wherdn, if you fpeak *' not out, all the reffi that you fay will be to no purpdfe ? Are men to be *' punilJted iox refujhtg to irhbrace the doctrine, andfubfnit to the goveriimetft of *"■ the proper tninifiers of the church o/" Geneva ? For this time, fince you •'have declared nothing to th« contrary, kt me fuppofe you of that *' church-; and then I am fure, that is it that you would name: for of *' whatever church you are, if you^ think the minifters of any one church " ought to be hearkened to, and obeyed, it muft be thofe of your ownJ •'There are perfons to be punifhed, you fay: This you cont-end for all " through your book, and lay fo much flrefs on rt, that you make the p^e- *' Nervation and propagations "of religion, and' the feivation of fouls, to de- " pertd on it : and yet yoti deftribe thefti by fo general and equivocal marks, "that, unlefs it be upon fuppofitions which no btrdy will grant you, I dare ** fay, neither you nor any body elfe will be able to find one guilty. Pray ^ find A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION" " find me, if you can, a man wiaom you can judicklly prove, for he >tfaat ** is to be puniflied by law, mu& be fairly tried, is in a wrong way, in re%e(9: " of - shis . faitb J. I mean, who is deaf to all pirfuafions, who fiies from " all means of a right information, who refufes in mdrmce the doctrine, and ^^ fubmit to the government of thejprkual^/^ors. And when you have done *' that, I think I may allow yau what power you pfeafe to punifli him, ** without any prejudice to the Toleration the Author of the letter pro- " pofes. *' -But wrhy, I pray, all this boggling, all this loofe talking, as if you "iknew not what you meant, or dwfl: mot fpeaic it out ? Would you be for " puiiiiaing fame body, you know not whom ? I do Jiot think fo ill of you. "«Let me then ipeak out for you. The evidence of the argument has con- " vi need you diat men ought not to be perfecuted for their reKgion ; Tiat " the feverities in ufe amongft Chciftians cannot be defendexi ; Thait the joaa- " giUcate i*as not aullaority to compel any one to his religion. Tlris you " are forced to yieM. But you would fain retain fome psnver in the raa- <** ^fir-ate''e4ands to punifh Diflenters, upon a jnew pretence, viz. not for ** 'having imbraced the -dodirine and wonthip they believe to be true and ". right, but for not having well confidered their own and the m.agiftrate'& "religion. To fhew you that I do not fpeak wholly without book, give « me leave to mind you of one ipaiSagje of yours : the words are, Penoikies " to put them upon aferieus and impartial . examination cf the contrmArfy ie~ " tween the mag^ratesa^d them. Thoaigh thefe words be not intended to " tell us who you would have puuifhed, yet it may be plainly inferred from " them. And they more clearly point but whom you aim at, than all the •' foregoing places, where you feem to, and fhould,. djdcribe them. For ^ they are fueh as between whom and the magifirate ra£es.or " refufes, is afault very common, ai>d very prejudicial to true religion, and the " falvation of mens fouls. But penalties and punifliments are •very oecdBsffy^ " fay you, to remedy this evil. " Let us fee now how you apply this remedy. Therefore, iay yoa, let " all Diffenters be puniflied. Why ? Have no Diflenters cosfeiered of re- « Jigi^n ? Or have all conformifts confidered ? That you your felf wiU '* aot fey. Your pro|e<3: therefore is juft as reafonablcj as if alethacgy grawiog A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION <* growing epidemical In England, you fhould propefe to have a law made " to blifter and fcarify, and (have the heads of all who wear gowns j though " it be certain that neither all who wear gowns are lethargic, nor all who ^* are lethargic wear gowns. Dit te, Damq^ppe, Deaeque . Verum ob confiHum donerit ton/ore. *' For there could not be certainly a more learned advice, than that one man ** fhould be pulled by the ears, becaufe another is afleep. This, when you " have confidered of it again, for I find, according to your principle, all '* men have now and then need to be jogged, you will, I guefs, be con- " vinced is not like a fair phyfician, to apply a remedy to a difeaie j but, *• like an inraged enemy, to vent one's fpleen upon a party. Common " fenfe, as well as common juftice, requires, that the remedies of laws and *' penalties fhould be diredled againfl the evil that is to be removed, where- " ever it be found. And if the punifhment you think fo neceffary, be, as *' you pretend, to cure themifchief you complain of, you mufl let it purfue, •' arid fall on the guilty, and thofe only, in what company foever they are^ and " not, as you here propofe, and is the highefl ihjuflice, punifh the innocent " confidering DifTenter, with the guilty ; and on the other fide, let the incon- •' fiderate guilty Conformifl fcape, with the innocent. For one may ra- *' tionally prefume that the national church has fome, nay, more, in pro- " portion of thofe who little confider or concern themfelves about religion, " than any congregation of DifTenters. For confcience, or the care of their " fouls, being once laid afide j interefl, of courfe, leads men into that fo- " ciety, where the protedtibn and countenance of the government, and- " hopes of preferment, bid fairefl to all their remaining defires. So that if *' carelefs, negligent, inconfiderate men in matters of religion, who,, with- *' out being forced, ivould not confider., are to be rouzed into a care qf their " fouls, and a fearch after truth, by punifhments ; the national religion, •' in all countries, will certainly have a right to the greatefl fhare of thofe "punifhments, at leafl, not to be wholly exempt from them. "This is that which the author of the letter, as I remember, complains' " of, and that juflly, wz. ^bat the pretended care of mem fouls always, ex— " preffes it felf, in thofe who would have force any way made ufe of to that end,- *' in very unequal met bods ; fome perfons being to be treated with feverity , whiljl " others guilty of the fame faults, are not to be fo much as touched. Though *' you are got pretty, well out of the deep mud, and renounce punifhments *' diredlly for religion ; yet. you flick flill in this part of the mire; whilfl " you would have DifTenters punifhed to make them confider, but would *' not have any thing done to Conformifls, though never fo negligent in this " point of confidering. The author's letter pleafed me, becaufe it is equal " to all mankind, is direft, and will, I think, hold every-where ; which I " take to be a good mark of, truth. For I fhall always fufpedt that neither ** to comport with the truth of religion, or the defignof the GofpeJ, which* *' is fuited to only fome one country or party. What is true and good ^ in En^gland, will be true and good at Rome too, in China or Geneva. But . " whe- A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 1933 " whether your great and only method for the propagating of truth, by bring- " ing the inconfiderate by puniftiments io confider, .-would, according to your " way^f applying your punifli^nents only to Diflenters from the national " religion, be of ufe in thofe countries, or any where but where you fup- " pofe the magiflrate to be in the right, judge you. Pray, Sir, confider a " a little, whether prejudice has not fome {hare in your way of arguing. " For this is your pofition ; Men are generally negligent in examining the " grount^s of their religion. This I grant. But could there be a more wild " and incoherent confequence drawn from it, than this ; 'Therefore DiJ/'en- *^ ters mujibe punijloed?" . All this you are pleafed to pafs over without the leaft notice :, but perhaps you think you have made me full fatisfadtion in your anfwer to my demand, who are to be puniflied ? We will here thei'efore confider that as it ftands, where you tell wi, Thofe Vf\\o are to be ^xxniihQd according to the whole tenour of ?, ^% your anfwer i ^re no other butfueh, as ha/oingfuficient evidence tendered them of the true religion, do yet rejeSt it :s whether utterly refufng to cori^der that ■evidence, or not confider ing as they ought, viz. ,withjiich care and diligence as the matter deferves .and requires, and, withhonejl and unbiaj'ed. minds; and what difficulty .there is in this, •^Q\x._bLy,-^Q\xcanfiot imagine. You prornifed you would, /^//: //6^ w^r/J vvho they yttxt, , plainly and direSily. An,d though P. 46 you tell us, yow cannot imagine what .difficulty, there is in this your account of who are to be puniftied, yet there are fome things in it, that make it to my apprehenfion not very plain and direSl. ' For firft they muft be only thofe who have thetrue religion tendered them with fuficient evidence : Where- in there appears fome difficulty to me, vv^ho .jhall be judge what is the true religion.: and for that, in every country it is rnoft probable the magiftrate will be. If you think of any other, pray tell us. . Next there feems fome difficulty \.o know, who fhall be judge what x^fufficient evidence. For where a man is to be punifhed by law, he muft be convid:ed of being guilty ; which fince in this cafe he cannot be, unlefs it be proved he has had the true religion tendered to him withfiifficient evidence, it is neceflaiy that Ibme body there muft be judge what is the true religion,' and what isfufficient e-y/- ^(f^^-e i and others to. prove it has been fo teridered. If you were to be of the jury, we know what would be your verdidl concerningy^«V«/ evidence, by thefe vi^ords of yoms. To fay .jhat a man who has the true religion propofed P. 51 to him with fuficient evidence of its truth, may confider it as he ought, or do his utmoft in confidering, and yet not perceive the truth of it, is neither more norlefs, than to fay tbatfufficient e^tiidence is not fufficient : For what does any man mean by fuficient evidence, but fuch as will certainly win aJJ'ent wherever it is duly confideredt • Upon which- his conforming, or not conforming, would without any farther queftions determine the point. But whether the reft of the jury could upon this be able ever to bring in any man guilty,- and fo liable to punifhment, is a queftion. For if fufficient evidence be only that which certainly wins affent, wherever a man does his utmoji in confidering -, it will be very hard to prove that a man who rejedls the true religion, has Cc ~ "had i94 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ( / ijad it tendered vnihfuficknf eniidme^, hocmitit will be- very- hard -to prove he has: not done hisutmoft in 4:mfider-ingk . So tha.t notwitfeftaflding all you Jiave here faid, to punim asy m^n hjjom method is not yet fo very prac- ticable* -But you dearall in -ywr fpliowing words, which fay, ^^^ere is notking more emd&nt than that thcfe ^ho rejeB the true reKgion, are ^If able i and de- ■ferve ta hfuniped^ By whom ? Sy men : That is fb far from being evi- dent, as you talky that it will require better proofs than I have yet feen for it. Next you fay, Itisiafy ^eiigh to-kniym 'when men rtj^ the true-rdigion. Yes, when the true religion is known, and agreed on what {hall be taken to be fo in judicial proceedings, which can'feftree be till it is\!agreie5'*who' -.fhall determine what \% irue 'ifeUgien, and what not. Suppoffe a penalty AquM in the univedity be kid on'thofe who rqe^ed the fr«f ptrifatetic^ •; do&ine, could that l$w be executed on aay one, unlefs it were agrera who ihould be Judge what was the true fer^ate^c doftrine ? If you iEky it njay be known q\x\. oi Arifiotle\ writings; then I^nfWer, that it wouid be k more reafonable law to lay the penalty on any one, who rejedlcd the doc- trine contained in the bookg allowed to be Arifietk's, and planted under his name. Ybu may apply this to the Prue religion j and me books of the c Scripture, if yoH pkafe : though after all, there muft be a Judge agreed -on, to determine, what do too great- a liberty, or fljall much need patdm'. For i f as ' you fay' - C c 2 in 196 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION P- ^ in the next page. Authority may redfonably and jujify^fe fame degrees of force where it is needful; I fay, they may alfo ufe any degree of force where it is needful. Now upon your grounds, fife and fword, tormenting and undoing, and thofe other puniflinients which you condemn, will be needful, even to torments of the higheft- feverity, and be as nec6ffary as thofe moderate pe- nalties which you will not name. F'or I afk yoU, to what purpofe do you ufe any degree of force? Is it to prevail with men to do fomething that is in their power, or that is not ? The latter I fuppofe you will not fay, till your love of force is fo increafed, that you ftiall think it neceflary to be made ufe of to produce impoflibilities : If force then be to be ufed only to bring men to do what is in their power, what is the neceflity you aflign of it ? only this, as I remember, mz^ That when-gentle admonitions and earneji in- treaties will not prevail, what other means is there left but force? And I upon the fame ground reply ; If lefTer degrees of force will not prevail, what other means is there left but greater ; If the loweft degree of force be neceflary where gentler means -will not prevail, becaufe there is no other means left; higher degrees of force are neceflary, where lower will not prevail, for the fame reafon. Unlefs you will fay all degrees of force; work alike ; and that lower penalties prevail as much on men as greater, and will equally bring them to do what is in their power. , If fo, a phlip on the forehead,- or a farthing mvAdi, may be penalty enough to,bringmen to what .you propofe. But if you fliall laugh at thefe, as being for;their fmalnefs in- fufiicient, and therefore will • think it neceflary to "increafe them, I fay,: wherever experience fhews any degree of force, to be infufiicient to prevail, there will he ftill the fame neceflity to incredfe„it. For wherever the end. is neceffary,'ss\^ force is the means, the only metins left tOi^xocme. it, both which; you fuppofe in our cafe, there it will be found alvvays neceffary to increafe^ the degrees of force, where the lower prove ineffedtual, as well till you: come to the higheft as when you begin with the loweft. So that in your, prefent cafft.I do not wonder you ufe fo many {hifts,. as I fhall ihew by and: by you, do, to decline naming the higheft degree of what you C2M moderate.} rf any degree be necejfaryy you cannot afl]gn any one, condemn it in words, as much as you pleafe,- which may not befo, and which youmuftnot come, to the ufe of. If there be no fuch neceflity of force as will juftify thofe higher degrees of it, which are feverities you condemn, neither will it juftify the ufe of your lower degrees. ./• p. 7 If, as you tell us, falfe religions prevail again^ the true, merely by. the ad-, vantage they, have in the corruption and pravity of human nature left to itfelf unbridled by authority ; if the not receiving the true religion be a mark and effedl merely of the "prevalency of the corruption of human nature j may not,, nay, muft not the naagiftrate,.if lefs vi^illnot do, ufe liis utmoft force to bring men to the true religion ? his force being given him to fupprels that corruption ; efpecially fince you give it for a mea.fure of the fotce to be ufed, that it muft hefo much, as without which ordinarily they will not imkraoe the- truth that muffave them. What ordinarily fignifies here to make any deter- minate A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 197 minate tneafure is hard to guefs j but fignify it what it will, fo much force muftbeufed, •&.% luithoutivhich men will not imbrace the truth ; which, if it fignify any thing intelligible, requires, that where lower degrees will not do, greater muft be ufed, till you come to what will ordinarily do ; but what that ordinarily is, no man can tell. If one man will not be wrought on by as little force as another, muft not greater degrees of force be ufed to him ? Shall the magiftrate who '\% obliged to do 'what lies in him, be excufed, for letting him be damned, without the ufe of all the means was in his power? And will it be fufficient for him to plead, that though he did not all what l(iy in him, yet he did what ordinarily prevailed, or what prevailed on feveral others. Force, if that be the remedy, muft be proportioned to the oppofition. If the dofe that has frequently wrought on others, will not purge a man whofe life lies on it, muft it not therefore be made fufficient and effedtual, becaufe it will be more than what is called ordinary? Ox can any one fay the phyfician has done his duty, who lets his. patient in an extraordinary cafe perifti in the ufe of only moderate remedies, and pro- nounces hinx incurable, before he has tried the utmoft he can with the powerfuUeft remedies which are in his reach } Having renounced lofs of ejiate, corporal punijhments, imprifonment, and fuch iort oifeverities, as unfit to be ufed in matters of religion; yDU afk. Will it follow from hence that the magijirate has no right to tfe any force at p. jg all f Yes, it will follow, till you give fome ahfwer to what I fay in that place, viz. That If you give up punifhments of a man in h.\% per/in, liberty and ejiate, I think we med not Jlandwith you for any punijhments may be made ufe of But this you pafs by without any notice. I doubt not but you will here think you have a ready anfwer, by telling me, youjrtean only depriving men of their ejiates, maiming them with- corporal punijhments, Jiarving and tor- menting them in noifome prifons, and other fuch feverities which you have by' name excepted ;*but lower penalties may. yet be ufed, for penalties is -the word' P. %t you carefully ufe, and difclaim that oi punijhment,. as if . you difowned the thing. I wifh you would tell us too by name, what thofe lower- penalties are you would hav& ufed, as well as by name you tell us thofe • feverities' you difallov/. They may not tnaim a man with corporal punijhments ; may they ufe any corporal puniftiments at all .? They, may not Jiarve and torment them in noifome prifons for religion; that you condemn as much as I. May they put them in anyprifon at all .'' They may hot deprive men of their eJiates ; I fuppofe you mean their whole eftates : May. they take away half,' or a quarter, or an hundredth part .'' It is ftrange you fhould be able to name the degrees of feverity that will hinder more than promote the progrefs of religion, and 'cannot name thofe degrees that will promote rather than hinder it ; that thofe who would take their meafures by you, and follow your fcheme, might know how to proceed fo, as not to do more harm than good : For fince you are fo certain, that there are degrees of punijhments or penal- ties that will do good, and other degrees of them that will do harm; ought you not to have told us, what that trtie degree is, or hqiw it may be known, without ^9? ^ THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION witfepiit wJpich a^ yoijrgeedl^f ibfeeiae is of ik> «fe? For allou^ing aH yspa hay? faid to, be ^5 tfu^ a.s 3fou h^ou^ have.' it, bo good can b« (Jon^ without j(hewiAg th&j:uft raeafure of pimiflimenit tO' be ufed. If the degree be too great> it wijl, yoa confers* do. harm : Can one then not err oa lk^ odaer h&ad, by uflng too Ijttle ? If you fay foi, we are agreed, and I defire ho better T'c^.emho/t- If therefore too, great will do h^raa,. aijdi too little, in your Qj^ia^, will dP no gpo4- yo«, ought to. tell u? the jxiifl: isnean^. This I pr^d lapon yofti whereof that the feadjee may be; jmjge^ I {hall berCi trouble him with the repetition. L.II, p. 96 *^ There is. a third thing, thaifc you aue as tender asad refecved in, as eitflef " naming the Griminals to be puniflaed, oe pofitivety telliHg us the end for *^ which theyfljtould be punifeed ;. and that is, with what &ft of peeallaes-, "• what degree of punifhment fihgy fhould. be-, fouled. Youi are indeed- fb ** graqious to. them, that yo* renounce the. feverkm zxmA, peHalim hitherta A. p. 24 « made ufe of.. You tell us, they fhonld be hu* moderate penaltiist.> Bufc i€ *-' we aflfi you. what are moderate penalties, you confefe you canniExt tdjl us : A-P-iS « So.thatb5r:;»(j^^& here, you yet mean nothing^. You tdi- us-,, The «)a^- " ward force to be applied, 'Jhould be duly, temp&r&di But wjiat that due tsfm/p&s V, ig, you; do npt,, or c^nofefayi and fo, io-effeifti irf: figmfiesrJBft notiftog. - **- Yec i^ in thiiSi yjQu are not pkini andi dire^^, aU the reft of your d^figa witt *•* fignify nethifltg. Eoritbeing to;havefomemeni.an4;to fomeend, pitfii^r ^ ed,-. yet if it cannot be found: what puniftraent is t©c be ufed, iti^ iiot-» A. p. 12 **■ withftanding all yoa have faidv utterly ui^lefe. You tell us modeftlyj '*That H deimmitte'precijely the jufi mmjiim of tiepimijhmmtv will rec^uir^ ** fome confidenationi If the faults were precisely deterismned, aaid'could be; '•'proved, itwould reqpiireno more confider-atton to detecmine the misafiire "of thepunifbmentin.thi&» than it would in^ any^ other cafe,, where ttofe " were knownt,. But wh^erethe fault is; undefinedi and; the guilt not to be " provedi as^ I fuppofe it will be found, in thisprefent bufineft of examining^ " it will, without doubt r^equire^ confiderationi to pKjporition' the' force to the " deiign : Juft fomuch confideration as it will require- to fit a, coat to thef '* moon>. or proportion ai fhpeto the ffeefcof thofe whoinhabit her. For to- " proportion a punifliment toa^ fault that you do not name, and fo we in- " charity ought to think you do not yet fcnowi.^and a fault that when yom " have narnediti it will, be impoffible to be proved who are or are not guilty " of it, will, I fuppofe, require. as much conf deration zs to fit a fhoe to feet *' whofeiize and fhape are not known. " Howeveri youj oflFer fome meafur^ whereby to regulate your punifh- " ments.; wiiich. when they are looked, into,, wilh be found to be juft as^ ** good as none, they being: impoffible to be -any rule in thecafe,> The firftr A. p, 14. " is, So much force, or fuch penalties as are ordinarily fuffimnt to prevml.witb) *« men of common difcretion, and, not def^erately periierfe andiohfiinate, . to ^txig&i ** matters of religion carefully and imptartialfyi. and nmtbout tahich ordmarilyi ** they, mil not do this. Where it is to be ohferwed : « Firll, A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLE^ATtO!^ *' Firft, Thatw^jo are ihefe men oi common ■di^etim^ is as hard to know,. ** as to know what is a fit degree of puniihment in the cafe j and fo you do *' butiregulate one uncertainty by antrther. SoHie men Will be apt to think, ** that he who will not 'weigh mitt^rs tf rdigiorii which are of infinite Con- " ccmment to him, without punifhment, cannot ih rekfon be thbught a *' man of common difirUUn. Many women of comtnon difcretion enough to •' manage the ordinary afiaifsof their families, are not able to read a page " in an ordinary author^ of fo Underftand and give an account what it means, " when read to them. Many men of common difcretion in their callings, afe ** not able to judg^ When an argument is conelufive or ho j much leis *• to trace it through a long train of confequencCs. What ft&altits.Jhati he " fi0sient to prevail yf'ti^ fuch, who Upon examination, I fear, will not be *« fotfnd to make the ka^il part of mankind, to examine and 'iv^gh matters of M religion carefully and impartially i The law allows all to have common dy- •« cretim, ica whom it has not provided guardians or Bedlam. So that, ih- ** effcift, youf men of common difcretion, are all men, not judged idiots or ,** mad men : Afi'd feUdlties fujicient to prevail ijaith mert of common difcretion^ '•• afe penalties fufficient to prevail with all men but idiots and mad mett, ** which what a meafure it iS to regulate penalties by, let all meaof com- •' mon difcretion judge. " Secondly, You may be pleafed to confider, that all men of the fame. " diGgtzt oi difereticny are not apt to be moved by the iame degree of pe- " nakies. Some are of a more yielding, fome of a more ftiflf temper j •• and what is fufficient to prevail on one, is not half enough to move the- '* other J though h^h. inen Bicammoii difcretion . So that common diicretionj ** Wittibe h^re of no ufe to determine the meafure of punifhment : efpecially^ •* when in the ilme claufe you- except men defpemtely p^verfe and objiinate -^ " who- are as hard ta be known, as whatyottfeek, vt^. thejuft proportions. ^" ef punifbments neeeffary to prevail with men to confider, exartiine,. and- « niteigh meters of religion ; wherein,, if a man tells you he has confdered, « he has inefghed, he has exOiHined, and fo goes on in his former coorfe, it *' is impoflible for you ever to know whether he has done his duty, or whe- " ther he be defperately prverfe andohfinat^. So tlaaf this exception fignifies- *' juft nothing. " There are many things in your ufe of force- antl penalties, different *' from any I ever me-t witl> elfewhere. One of them, this.claufe of yours. " concerning the meafure of punifliments, now under confideration, offers. »• me:, wherein you proportion your punifbments only t& the yielding and: " corrigibie, not to the pefverfe and obftinatas ; contrary to the common. •' difcretion which has hitherto made laws in other cafes, which fevels the « punifliments againft refradtory offendeFS, and never fpares them becaufer ** they are obftinajte. Thds^ however I will not blaine as an over-fight in *« j^u. Your new method, which- aims at fueh imprafticable andincon- *' fiftent • things as laws cannot bear, nor penalties be ufeful to, forced, you' «' ta it. The ufefulnefs, abfurdi-ty^ and unreafenabkfs of great feroeritks^ *^yo.a 2ao A THIRD LjETTER FOR TOLERATION " you had ^cknpwledg-ed in the foregoing paragraphs : Diffenters you " would have brought to confider by moderate penalties. They lie under them ; " but whether they have confidered or no, for that you cannot tell, they A. p. 12 (t ftiil continue Diffenters. What is to be done now? Why, the imurabk " are to be left to God, as you tell us. Your puraifliments were not meant " to prevail on the defperately perverfe and objlinate, as you tell us here. " And fo whatever be the fuccefs, yOur punifliments are however juftified. The fulnefs , of your anfwer to my queftion, JFith what punijhments d made you poffibly pafs by thefe two or three pages without making any par- ticular reply to any thing I faid in them : we will therefore examine that P. 49 anfwer of yours, where you tell us. That having in your anfwer declared that yon take thefeveritiesfo often mentioned (which either dejiroy men, or make them miferable) to be utterly unapt and . improper (for reafons there given J to bring men to imbrace the truth that muflfave them : hntjufhowfar with- in thpfe bounds that force extends it f elf which is really ferviceahle to that end, you do not prefume to determine. To determine how far moderate force reaches, when it is neceffary to your bufinefs that it fhould be determined, is not prefuming : You might with more reafon have called it prefuming, to talk of moderate penalties, and , not to be able to determine what you mean by them ; or to promife, as you do. That you will i&\\ plainly and direStly, with .what punijhments i and here to tell us. You do not prefume to determine. But you give a reafon for this modefty of yours, in what follows, where you tell me, I have not Jhewn any caufe why yowjhould. And yet you may find in what is above repeated to you, thefe words, " If in this you are not plain *' anddiredt, all the reft of your defign vvill fignify nothing." But had I failed in {hewing any caufe why you fhould; and your charity would not in- lighten us, unlefs driven by my reafons, I dare fay yet. If I have not Jhewn any caife why yon Jljould determine in this point, I C2iajhew a caufe wh^yoxi fhould not. ^ For I will be anfwerable to you, that you cannot nanie any degree of punifliment, which will not be ejtherfo great, as to. come among thofe you condemn, and fhew what your moderation, what your averfion to perfecution is ; or elfe too little to attain thofe ends for which you. pro- pofe it. But whatever you tell me, that I hzve. Jhewn no caufe why you Jhould determine, I thought it might have paffed for a caufe why you fhould determine more particularly, that,^as you will find in thpfe pages, I had proved that the meafures, ypii offer whereby to regulate your punifhments, are juft as good as none. : j ' . Your meafures in your " Argument confidered" and which ypu repeat here p. 49 again, are in thefe words ; So much, force, or fuch penalties as are ordinarily fuficient to prevail with men of common difcretion, and not defperately perverfe to weigh matters of religion carefully and. impartially, and without which ordi- narily, they will not do this ; fo much force, or fuch penalties may fitly and rea- fqnably be. ufedfor the promoting true religion in the world, and the falvation of fouls. And what jufi exception this is liable to, yon do not underfiand. . Spmo of the exceptions it is liable to, you might have feen in what I.haye.h^rei. , " ' ' again A THIRD LETTER POR TOLERATION zoz again caufed to be reprinted, if you had thought them worth your notice. But you go on to tell us here, That when yow /peak of men of common difcre- p. 49 tton, and not defperately perverfe and objiinate, you tbink 'tisplain enough, that by common difcretion you exclude not idiots 'only, andfuch as we ufually call mad meh, but likewife the defperately perverfe and objiinate, who perhaps may well enough deferve that name, though they be not wont to befent to Bedlam. \fV'hether by this you have at all taken off the difficulty, and {hewn your meafure to be any at all in the ufe of force, I leave the Reader to judge. I aflced. Since great ones are unfit, what degrees of punifliment or force are to be ufed ? You anfwer, So much force, andfuch penalties as are ordinarily fuffieient to prevail with men of ordinary difcretion, I tell you it is as hard to know who thofe men of common difcretion are,- as what degree of punifli- ment you would have ufed ; unlefs we will take the " determination of the *' law, which allows all to have common difcretion, for whom it has not " provided guardians or Bedlam :" fo that in efFedt, your men of common difcretion are all men not judged idiots or mad men. To clear this, you tell us. When yowfpeak of men of common difcretion, and not defperately per- verfe and objiinate, you think 'tis plain enough, by common difcretion you ex~ elude not idiots only, and fuch as are ufually called madmen, but likewife the defperately perverfe and objiinate. It may be you did, for, you beft know what you meant in writing : but if by men of common difcretion, you excluded the defperately perverfe and objiinate, let us put what you meant by the words, men of common difcretion, in the place of thofe words themfelves, and then according to your meaning, your rule ftands thus ; Penalties ordinarily fuf- fieient to prevail with men not defperately perverfe and objiinate, and with men not defperately perverfe and objiinate : fo that at laft, by men of common dif- cretion, either you excluded only idiots and mad men ; or if we muft take your word for it, that by them -^ow. excluded likewife the defperately perverfe^ and objiinate, and fo meant fomething elfe ; it is plain, you meant only a very ufelefs and infignificant tautology. You go on, and tell us, If the penalties you fpeak of, be intended for the?. 49 curing mens unreafonable prejudices and refraStorinefs againji the true religion, then the reafon why the dejperately perverfe and objiinate are not to be regarded in meafuring thefe penalties, is very appdr-ent. For as remedies are not- pro- vided for the incurable, fo in the preparing and tempering them, regard is to be bfld only to thofe for tvhom they are defgned. Which, true or falfe; is no- thing to the purpofe, in a place where you profefs to inform us, what pu- nijhments are to be ufed. We are inquiring who are the defperately perverfe and objiinate, and not whether they are to be punifhed or no. ' You pretend to give us a rule to know what degrees of force are to be ufed, and tell us, it '\^fo much as is ordinarily fuffieient to prevail with men of common difcretion, and not defperately perverfe and objiinate. We again aik, who are your men of common difcretion ? You tell us, fuch as are not mad men or idiots, or def- perately perverfe and objiinate. Very well, but who are thofe defperately per- verfe and objiinate, -how fhall we know them ? and to. this you tell us, they are not to be regarded in meafuring thefe penalties. Whereby certainly we D d have 202 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION have got a plain meafure of your moderate penalties. No, not yet, you .go P, 50 QB in the next paragraph to.perfe(3: it, where you fay, T a prevent a little cavil, it m&y. be needful to note tb■ , , .-. And now the "magiftrate has all your rules about the meafures of punlfh- ments to be ufed, and may confidently and fafely go to work to eftabliih it by a law : for he having thefe marks to guide him, that they muft be great enough ordinarily to prevail with thofe who are not idiots or madmen, nor def- perately perverfe and obfiinate^' great enough ordinarily to prevail with men to hear., corfider, and imbrace the true religion, and yet not lb great as might tempt pirfons, who have, any concern for their eternal fahation, to denounce a ^religion_ which they believe to be true, or prof efs one which they do not believe to befo : do you not think you have fufficiently inftrufted him in your mean- ing, and inabled him to find the juft temper of his punilhments according to your fcheine, neither too much, nor too little ? But however you may be fatisfied with them, I fuppofe. others, when it conies to be put in practice, will by thefe meafures, which are all I can find in your fcheme, be fcarce able to find, what are the puniftimertts you would have ufed. In ^Utopia there is a medicine called Hiera Picra, which it is fuppofed would cure a troublefome difeafe of that country : but it is not to be given, but in the dofe prefcribed by the law, and in adjufting the dofe lies all the ikill : for if you give too much, it heightens the diftemper, and fpreads the mortal contagion; and if too little, it does no good, at all. With this difficulty the law-makers have been perplexed thefe many ages, and could not light on the right dofe, that would work the cure, till lately there came an undertaker, -who would {hew them how they could not miftake. He bid them then prefcribe fo much, as would ordinarily be effeStual upon all that were not idiots ox mad-men, or in whom the humour was not dejperately perverfe and obfiinate, to produce the end for which it was defigned ,• but not fo much as would make a man in health, who had any. concern for his life, fall into a mortal difeafe. Thefe were good words, and he was re- warded for them : but when by them they came tofix the dofe, they could not tell whether it ought to be a grainy a dram, or an ounce, or a whole pounds 2o6 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION pound, any more than before ; and ib the dofe of their Hiera Picra, not- withftanding this gentleman's pains, is as uncertain, and that fovereign re- medy as ufelefs as ever it was. P. 50 In the next paragraph you tell us, You. do not fee what more can be re- quired to jufiify the rule here given. So quick, a fight needs no ipeiSacks. For gT I demand that it jhmld exprefs what penalties particularly are fuch as it fays may fitly and reafmabJy be uftd; this I muft give you leave to teU me is u very utireaJmaMe demand. It is an unreafohable demand, if your rule be fueh, that by it I may know without any more ado, the parjticular penaltira that are fit j otherwife it is not unreafonabk to demand them by name, if your marks be not fufixcient to know them by. But let us hear your reafou. For lohat rule is there that exprejfes the partictdars that agree with it 9 And it is an admirable rule with which one can find no particulars that agree ; for I challenge you to inftance in one : A ride, you fay, is intended for a common meafureby which particulars are to he examined, and therefore mnfi ne- ceffarily be generaL So general, loofe, and inconfiftent, that no particulars can be examined by it: for again I challenge youj or any man living, to meafure out any punifhment by this your common meafure, and eftablifh it by a law. You go on -, And thofe to whom it is given, arefappofed to be able to apply it, and to judge of particulars by it. Nay it is often feen that they are hetter able to do this than thofe who give it : And fb it is in the pr^ent cafCf the rule hereby laid dawn is that by which you fuppofe governors and Jaw-givers aught to examine the penalties they ufefor the promoting the true religion, and tbefalvation of fouls. Such a rule it ought to be I grant,, and fuch an one is defired j but that yours is 'fuch a rule as magiftrates can take any meafure by, for the punifhments they are to fettje by law, is denied, and you are again defired to fhew. You proceed ; But certainly no man doubts but their prudence and experience inables them to ufe and apply it better than other men, and to judge more exaSlly what penalties do agree with if, and what do not', and therefore you think I mi^ excufe you if you do not take upon you to teach them what it becomes you rather to learn from them. If we are not to doubt but their prudence and experience inables magiftrates to judge beft what penalties are fit, you have indeed given us at laft a way to know the meafure of punifliments to be ufed : but it is fuch an one as puts an end to your diftinc- tioa of moderate penalties : For no magiftrates that I know, when they once began to ufe force to bring men to their religion, ever flopped till they came to fome of thofe feverities you condemn ; and if )^u pretend to teach them moderation for the future, with hopes to fucced, you ought to have fhewed them the juft bounds, beyond which they ought not to go, in a model fo wholly new, and befides all experience. But if it be to be deter- mined by their ^r-^^f^ and experience, whatever degrees of force they fliall ufe, will always be the right. 'Lam-makers and governors however beholden to you for your good opi- nion of their prudence oxA experience; yet have no reafon to thank you for your complement, by giving fuch an exercife to ^q\x prudence and e-xperieitfet as A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 507 as to put it upon them to find out tfoe juft meafures of punifliments, by rules you give them, which are foch, tW neither your felf, nor any body eifc can find out any meafui^ by. The other part of your complement wifl be fij&oSed not to be fo irkuch out of your abnarBdant refpedl :to law- ttutiers and gammv^Sy as out of the gr«at regard you haw. to your felf; for you in riain pretend' you forbear to oanae any particular puniflaments, becaufe yauwijl not take upon you to teach governors and law-makers, when you your felf own in the fame breath.,) that you are laying down rules by •vahteh they are to .proceed in the, oft of penalties for pxomoting religion, which is little diferenit from teasiung : and your whole book is nothing elfe but about the ot^jftraiters power and duty. I excufe you therefore for your own fake from naming amy particular ptmifliments by your rules : for you have a tight to it, as all men have a right to be excufed from doing what is impoflible to he done. Since therefore yoa grant that thofe feverities you have named, are more 9pt to hin-der iban promote true religion; and you carinot aflign any meafures of punifhment, fhoct of thofe great ones you have condemned, which are fit to promote it, I think it arguiaient enough to prove agaitjft you, tlij^t no punifhments are fit, till you have fhewed fome others, either by name, or fuch marks as they may certainly be Isnown by, which are .fit to promote the true religion : and therefore nothing you have fajLd there, or any where elfe, will ferve to fhew that it is with little reafon, as you tell me, that Ifay, Y. ici " that if your indireB and at a dijhance ferviceablenefs may authorize the ma- " giftrate to ufe force in religion, all the cruelties ufed by the Heathens " againft Chriftians, by Papifts againft Proteftants, and all the perfecuting " of Chriftians one amongft another, are all juftifiable." To which you add. Not to take notice at frefent how odly it founds, that that which autho- rizes the magiftrates to ufe moderate penalties to promote the true religion, Jhould jujiify all the cruelties that ever were ufed to promote Heathenifm or Popery. As oddly as it founds to you, it will be evidently true, as long as that which mithorizes one, authorizes all magiftrates of any religion, which they believe to be true, to ufe, force to promote it"j and as long as you cannot aflign any bounds to your moderate punifliments, £hort of thofe great ones ; which you therefore are not able to do, becaufe your principles, whatever your words deny, will carry you to thofe degrees of feverity, which in pro- feflion you condemn : and this, whatever you do, I dare fay every confider- ing reader befides you will plainly fee. So that this imputation is not fo unreafonable, fince it is evident, that you muft either renounce all punifh- ments whatfoever in religion, or mal. But to inform you that my apprehenfions were not fo wholly out of the way, I befeech you to read here what you have writ in tiiefe words ; For how tof^dently Jbetxr you tell me here^ that it is more than I can fay for P. 34. tny pc^tical punifliments, thU they were ever ufeful for the promoting true rdigion ; lineal to aU vhfendng ferfms, Aether ^^hereoer true religion, or found Chrifiianity has been nationally received ^nd eftablilhed By ■moderate fenal laws, it has mt always Itift ground hy the relaxation of tbofe laws : Whether feds and herefies, (even the wildeji and mofi ahfurd) and even Epicurifm and Atheifhij have not continually thereupon fpread themfelves ; and whether the veryfpirit -and life af Chrijiianity hasnotfenfily decayed, as well as the number of found prof effors ^ it been daily leffened^on it : Not tofpeak of what at this time our eyes cannot hut feet fir fear ■of giving >offence ', though I hope it wtll he none to e^nt relaxation fit on yourmdndj which fince it i« of penal laws you call ^moderate, I fhall fhew you what thqr are. In the firfl: year of queen Elizabeth, there was a penalty of i j. a Sunday and holiday laid upon every one, who came not to the common prayer then eftabliftied. This penaly of i j. a time not prevailing, as was deiired, in -the twenty third year of her reign was increafed to 20 /. a month, and im- prifonment for non-payment within three months after judgment given. In the twenty ninth year of Elizabeth, to draw this yet clofer, and make it more forcible, it was raaaifted. That whoever upon one conviftion did not continue to pay on the 20,/. :^ir month, without any other convidtion or .proceedings againll him till he fubnaitted and conformed, ihould forfeit all his :goods, and two thirds of his land for his life. But this being not yet E e 2 thought 212 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION thought fufficient, it was in the thirty fifth year of that queen compleated, and the moderate Jienal lauvs, upon which our national religion was ejiaklijhed, and whofe relaxation you cannot bear, but from thence date the decay of the veryfpirit and life of Cbrijiianity, were brought to perfeiftion. tor then going to conventicles, or a month's abfence from church, was to be punifh- ed with imprifonment, till the .offender conformed; and if he conformed not within three months, then he was to abjure the realm, and forfeit all his goods and chattels for ever, and his lands and tenements during his life-: And if he would not abjure, or abjuring, did not depart the realm within a time prefixed, or returned again, he was to fuffer death as a felon. . And thus your moderate . penal laws ftood for the ejiablijhed- religion, till their pe- nalties were, in reipedof Proteftant DilTenters, lately taken off. And now let the Feader judge whether your pretence to moderate punifliments, or my fufpicion of what a man of your principles might have in {lore for Difien- ters, have more of modejly or conffiience in it ; fince you openly declare your regret for the taking away fuch an. eftablifhment, as by the gradual increafe of penalties reached mens eftates, liberties and lives j and which you muft be prefumed to allow and approve of, till you tell us plainly, where, ac- cording to youE meafures, thofe penalties fhouldj or, according to your principles, they could have flopped. ■ 3*. II You tell us. That where this only true religion, ^iz. of the church of England, is received, other religions ought to be difcouraged in fome meafure. A pretty expreflaon for undoing, imprifonment, banifliment j for thofe have been fome of the difcouragements given to Diflenters here in England. You will again, no doubt, cry aloud, that you tell me you condemn thefe as much as I do. If you heartily condemn them, I wonder you fliould fay fo little to difcourage them j I woader you are fo filent in reprefenting to the ma- giftrate the unlawfulnefs and. danger of ufing them, in a difcourfe where you are treating of the magiftrate's power and duty in matters of religion ; efpecially this being the fide on whieh^ as far as we may guefs by exper rience, their prudence is apteft to err : But your modeftyj you know, leaves all to the magiftrate's prudence and experience on that fide, though you over and over again incourage them not to negledl their duty in the ufe of force, to which you ijet no bounds. f. 50 You tell us. Certainly no. man doubts but the prudence and experience of go*- 'vernors and law-givers inables them to ufe and apply it^ viz. your rulfe for the meafure of punifhments, which I have ihe wed to be no rule at all i And to ■judge more exaSlly what penalties da agree witS it; and therefore yo\x mujl be excufed if you do not take upon you to teach thern^ what it becomes you gather to learn from them. If your modefty be fuch, and you then did what be^ came you, you could not but learn from your governors and law-givers, Tind fo be fatisfied till within this year or tvvo, that thofe penalties which they meafured out for the eftablifhment of true religion, though they reached to mens eftates, liberties and lives, were fuch as were fit. But what yoa have learned of your law-makers and ^qvernors fince the relaxation, or what opinicra. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION aij opinion you have of their experience and prudence now, is not fo eafjr to fay. Perhaps you will iay again, that you have in exprefs words declared againft jir& and /word, lofs of efistCy maiming ^ith corporal funijhmentst Jiarving and Mrmenting in noijhme prifons-, and one cannot either in madefty or eanfaence difbeUeve you: Yet in the fame letter y.0U with fbrrow and regret fpeakof the r€laxation of fuck penalties laid on Nonconformity, by which men have loft dieir eftates, liberfaes, and lives too, in noifome prifons, and in this too muft we not believe you ? I dare fay, there are very few who read that P. 34 paffage of yours, fo feelingly it is penned, who want madefty or cmfcimce to heiieve you therein to be in earneft -, and the rather, becaufe what drops from men by chance, when they are not upon their guard, is always thought the besft interpretation of their thoughts. Ytfu name /^ of eftafe, of lihtrty, and t^rmentingt which is corporal ■^usijhment, as if you were agaanft them : Certainly you know what you meant by thefe words, when you tfeid, you condemned them j was it any degree of lofsof Mer^y er lefiatt, any degree of corporal pun^meni that you condemned, or only ,tbe utmoft, or ifome degree between thefe ? unkfs you jatad then fome meaning, aodunlefs you pleafe to teH us, what that meaning was; where it is, that in your opinien the magilfoate ought to ftop, who can believe you are in ewneft? "This 1 think you may and ought to do for our iafbrHiation in your fyftem* without Arty appreheofio*! that ;gov6r- nors and kw-^ivers will deem themfelves ^much lau^at by you, -whixSi your jW«^^ -makes you fo cautious of. Whilft yoa :Befiife to do -this, jsaid keep your felf iioiigr -t}'-° ♦v^^r o f <3 f io « l cmte7"xxnivenient,^nandnolficieBt force aijii penalties, -and ether tfijch-lUee uncertain and undetermined puniftM!aent«, 'I thiiik a con&iencious andfober Di^nter might: expert fairer dealing froth one of my P^gam or Mskmrnedam, asycai fikafe to call *hem, than from one, who fo pr^etfeifes moderation, that ^what. degrees of force, what kiadof ipuniftiments wiU fatisfy him, he either .knows not, or will not de- 'Chtfe. For your ttiaderate and .convenient -isEi&Y^ when you come to interpret rthem, jfigriiify what tpuni&ments you rpleafe : For the .cure being to be wrought by lOfce, that will fee conmement, which the Aubbornnefsof the evil requires J N^nd that m&deratt, which is but>eBou^ to work the cure. And ■tl^sefore I fliall return your ?own complen$ent, ft^at J would never wijh that jiny-man iioho has , -undertaken ^ner«l anddoubt- ful woFds and^expreffions, of uncertain and undetermined fignMcation, will, I-id0ubt hot, abundantly convince the reader. An iaftance we have in the .argurHttent'befoire u-s : Fori appeal to anyifober man, who ihall carefully read what yeu write, where you pretaid to-telltbe marJdplamlyandSr^Bly 's&hat P, 49 ^.punfh^ents ^TQ to "be ruled byyour fcheme, ^rahether after having ^weighed all -you fay concerning that matter, he can tell, what a Nonconformift is to expedtTrom you, or find any thing but fuch acutenefe and ftrength ^s lies i {, E e 3 ia «i4 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION in the uncertainty and referve of your way of talking; which whether it be any way futed to your modefiy and confcience, where you have undertaken to tell us ijohat the punijhmekts are, whereby you would have men brot^ht to imbrace the true religion-, I leave you to confider. f. 34. If haviag faid. Wherever true religion or found 'Chri/iianity has been na^ tionally received and ejiahlijhed by moderate penal laws ; you fhall for your de* fence of the eftablifhment of the religion in England by law, fay, which is all is left you to fay, that though fuch fevere laws were madCi yet it was only by the execution of moderate penal laws, that it was eftabliflied and fupported : but that thofe fevere laws that touched mens eftates, liberties and lives, were never put in execution. Why then do you fo ferioufly be- moan the lofs of them? But I advife you not to make ufe of that plea» for there are examples in the memory of hundreds now living, of every one of thofe laws of queen Elizabeth being put in execution ; and pray re- member, if by denying it you require this truth to be made good, iris you that force the publifhing of a catalogue of men that have loft their . eftates, liberties and lives in prifon,, which it would be more for the advan- tage of the religion ejiablijhed by law, fliould be forgotten. But to conclude this great accufation of youfs : If you' were not con- fcious to your felf of feme tendency that way, why fuch an outcry ? Why was modejiy 2iiiA confcience called in queftion'? Why- was it lefs fair dealing than you could have expeBed from a Pagan or Mahometan, for me to- fay, if in thofe words '* you meant any thing to the bufinefs in hand; you feemed ** to have a referve for greater punifhments ?" Your bufinefs there being to prove, tbat there was a p®wervcffca^n th©^ii^glftra*c:^;crTifc foice. In taatters of religion, what could be more befides the bufinefs in hand, than to tell us, as you interpret your meaning here, that the magiftrate had a power to ufe force againft thofe wJio; rebelled, for who ever denied that, whether Diffenters or not Diflenters ? Where was it queftioned by the author or me, that whoever rebelled, were to fall under -the firoak of the mag^rdte's fword? And there- fore without breach oi modejiy -or confcience, I might fay, what I again' here repeat, " That if in thofe words you meant any ^ing to- the bufinefe in *• hand, you feemed to have a referve for greater puniihments." One thing more give me leave to add in defence of my modefiy and con- ftience, or rather to juftify my felf from having guefled fo wholly befide the matter, if I fliould. have feid, which I did not, that I feared you had a re- li.II,p»83 -ferve far greater punijhments.. For I having brought the inftances of Ana-r nias and SappMra, to ftiew that the ApofHes wanted not power to punifli, if they found it neceffary to ufe it; you' infer, that therefore /««^»i?^»^ ot^ 3>, 38 befpmetimes necejjary. What punifliments I befeech you, for theirs- coft them their livds ? , He that, as you do, concludes from thence, thztihere- ioxe punijhments may befometimes necejfary, will hardly avoid, whatever he fays, to conclude C2i^\xA punijhmentx'necejfary : And when they are necejfary, it is you know the magiftrate's duty to ufe them. You fee how natural it is for men to go whither their principles, lead them> though at firft. fight per- haps, they thought it too far.. If h THIRI> l^ETTER FOR TOLERATIOtq; ^i^ ; If to avoid this, jjqu flaw fay fon ft^eant it of the puniihmetit of the In- ceftuofis Corinthian, whom I alfq mentioned in the fame place ; I think, fup- pofmg yeur fdf to lie under the imputation of a r^ferwe of greater punifli- ments, you ought in prudence to have faid fo there. |S[ext yop know not what punifhment it was the inceftuous Corinthian ui^derwent, but it being ^r tke defiru&kHof tkfi f»fi» it feems to be no very light one : And if you will take your friend St. ^mJW^ word for it, as he in the very epiftle you quote tells you, it waa a very feyfef? one, making as jaiueh difference between it, ^tid the i€*f dtjes nuen ufually fuSer in prjfon, as there is between the cruelty of the Devil and that Qf the ipoft barbarous jaylor : fo that if your moderafe pumfhmHts will Bfsch to that laid ©rvthe ineeftuoiis Ccffiijthian for the d©ftru<3fiori of the fle(h, we may prefume thejn to be, what other peo- ple Q9\\feveritiei, : C H A P T E R V i m V HOV«r tONG YOUR PUNISHMENTS ARE TO CONTINUE. The meafure of punifhments being to be eftimated as -vyejl by the length of their duration, as the intenfenefs of their degrees, it is fit we take a view aUbof your fcheme in this part. •* I t-old you ^' That moderate pmifkments that are eon tinued, that menfiiidL.II,p.g3 '• no end of, know np way out of, fit heavy, and become immoderately •* ufieafy. Diffenter^ you wejjld hayie^^ puniOied, to make them emfider. ^' Your penalties have had the effedt on them y«Ki intended ; they have " made them conjidev ', and they have done their ut^c^ in confidering. ♦' What: now miift be done with thein? They muft be punifhed on, for " ^^j ajse ftill Difieriters. If it were juft, and yo^ had reafon at firft to ** pyjiifli a DifiTenter, to make him cmjider, when yoii did not know but *' that be hadcoififidered already j it is a? juft, and yjpu have as much reafon " topunifti him on, even when he has performed what your punishment " -was defigped for, and has confid^red, but yet remains a DilTenter. For " I m,ay juftly fuppofe, and you rnufl: grant, that a man may remain a Dif- ** fenter after ajl the confideration your moderate penalties can bring him " to i when we fee great punifhments, even thofe feverities you difown as «' too great, are niot able to make men cmfider fo far as to be convinced, '• and brought over to the national church, li your punifhments may not •' be inflidted on men, to make them confider, who have or may have con- *' fidered already, for ought you know ; then Difi"enters are never to be once " puniflied, no mor^ than any other fort of men. If P^enters are to be *' punifhed, to make them confider, whether they have confidered or no 5 " then their punifhrnents, though they do :c(?«/^^(?r, muft never eeafe as long ?* as they are Diflenters, which whether it be to punifh them only to bring *' them to conjider, let all men judge. This I am fure ; punifhments in your *' method, mufl either never begiA upon DiffenteKj or aever ceafe. And 2i6 A THIRD LEtTER FOR TOLERAtlbN* *■* fo pretend mbderatidn if you pleafe, the puhifliments which' your me- " thbd requires, muft be either very immoderate, or none at all." But to this you fay nothing, only for the adjuftirig of the length of your piinifh- fnents, and therein vindicating the confifte'ncy and prafticablenefs iof yo'ur P. SI fcheme, you tell us, That as long as men rejeSi the true religion duly propofed to them, fo long they offend and deferve punijhment, and therefore it is but juji that fo long they Jhould be left liable to it. -You promifed to aiifwer to this P'46 queftion, amongft others, plainly and direBly. The queftion is. How long they are to be puriiflied ? And your anfwer is, It is but juJi thatfo long they jhould be liable to' punijhment. This extraordinary caution in Ipeakirig out, if it Were not v^ry natural to you, would be apt to make one fuipedt, it was accommodated more to fbme difficulties of ydur^ fcheme, than to your promife of answering plainly and direSlly ; or poffibly yoii thought, it woul!d not agree to that charadter of moderation you aflume, to own, ijiat all the penal laws which Were lately here in force, and whofe relaxation you bemoan, fhbuld be conftantly put in execution. But your moderation in this point comes too late. For as your charity, as you tell us in the next paragraph, requires that f^ey be kept fubjeSt to penalties: So the wzichinl charity of others in this age hath found out ways to incourage informers, and put it out of the magiftrate's moderation to ftdp the execution of the law againft Dif- fenters, if he fliould be inclined to it. ^ ^ ^ We will therefore take it for granted, that if penal laws be made con- cerning religion, for more zeal ufually animates them than others, they will be put in execution : and indeed I have heard it argued to be very ab- furd, to make or continue laws, that are not conftantly put in execution. And now to fhew you how well your anfwer confijls with other parts of your fcheme, I fhall need only to mind youj that' if men muft be punijhed as long as they rejedl the true religion, thofe who punifti them, muft be judges what is the true religion. But this qbjedlion, with fome other, to which this part of yoiir anfvver is obnoxious, having been made to yoii more at large elfewhere, I fhall here omit, and proceed to other parts of your anAvef. • ^ • p. 50 ' You begin with your reafon for the anfwer you afterwards give us in the words I laA quoted: Your reafon runs thusj For certainly nothing is more reafonable than that menjhoidd befubjeSi to punijhment as long as they continue to offend. And as long as men rejeSl the true religion tendered them with fufficient evidence of the truth of it, fo long it is certain they offend. It is certainly very reafonable, that men fliould befubjeSi to punijhment froni thofe they offendas long as thej continue to offend: But it will not from hence follow, that thofe who offend God, are Q\w^y^ fubjeSi to punijhment from men. For if they be, why does not th£ magiftrate punifli envy, hatred, and malice;, and all uncharitablenefs ? If you anfwer, becaufe they are not capable of ju- dicial proofs : I think I may fay it is as eafy to prove a man guilty of envy, hatred or uncharitablenefs, as it is to prove him guilty of rejeSiing the true religion tendered him with fufficient evidence of the truth of it. But if it be his duty to punifli all offences againft God, why does the magiftrate never " . punifti. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ziy punifli lying, which is an offence, ^gainft God, and is an offence capable of being judicially proved ? It is plain therefore that it is not the fenfe of all mankind, that it is the magiftrate's duty to punifh all offences againft God ; and where it is not his duty to ufe force, you will grant the magiftrate is not to ufe it in matters of religion, becaufe where itisneceffary, it is his duty to ufe it i but where it is not neceffary, you your felf fay, it is not lawful. It would be convenient therefore for you -to reform your propofition from that loofe generality it now is in, and then prove it, before it can be allowed you to be to your , purpofe ; though it be never fo true, that you know not a greater crime a man can be guilty of, than rejeSting, the true religion. You go oft with your proof, that folong as men rejedt the true religion, p. 51 etc, fo long they offend, and confequently~ may juftly be punished j Becaufi, fay you, it is impojjible for any man, innocently to reje£i the true religion, fo tendered to him. For whoever rejeSfs that religion fo tendered, does either ap' prebend and perceive the truth of if, or he does not. If he does, I know not what gree^ter crime any man can be guilty of. If he does not perceive the truth of it, there is no account to be given of that, but either that he Jhuts his eyes againft the evidence which is offered him, and will not at all confder it ; or that he does not confder it as he ought, viz. withfuch care as is requifite, and with a fincere defer e to learn ihetruthi either of which doesmanif^fily involve him in guilt. To fay here that a man who hits the true religion propqfed to him with fufficient evidence of its truth, may confeder it as he ought, or do his utmoft in con- i\6.QX\n^, and yet not perceive the truth of it; is neither more nor lefs, than to fay, that fujicient evidence is not fufficient evidence. For what does any man mean byfuffipient evidence, but fuch as will certainly win ajfent whereever it is duly confidered^ \ . , I ihall not trouble my felf here to examine when requifete care, duly con- federed, arid fuch other words, which bring one back to the fame place from whence one fet out, are caft up, whether all this fine reafoning will amount to any thing, but begging what is in the queftion : But fhall only tell you, that what you fay here- and in other places dhovLl fijfficient evidence, is built upon this, that the evidence wherewith a man propofes the true religion, he may know to be fuch, as will not fail to gain the affent of whofoever does what lies in him in confidering it. This is the fuppofition, without which all your, talk o^ fufficient evidence will do you no fervice, try it where you u'ill. But it is a fuppofition that is far enough from carrying with it - fufficient evidence to make it be admitted without proof. Whatever gains, any man's ajfent, one may be fure had fufficient evidence in refpedt of that man : But that is far enough from proving it evidence fuf- ficient ^to prevail on another, let him confider it as long and as much as he can. The tepipers of mens minds ; the principles fettled there by time and education, beyond the power of the man himielf to alter them; the diffe- rent capacities of mens underftandings, and the flrange ideas they are often filled with, are fo various and uncertain, that it is impoffible to find that evidence, efpecially in things of a mixed difqUifition, depending on fo long F f a train A rHIRD L^TTE'R; F^OR TDXERA^frON a tradn of comfeqiaeiices, as fotee ^>^«s ©f tiie toie Tei%teii^ttmy, '^idk -owe can confidendjr iky wHifee fu^i^mt (for »11 men. It k JderPfoi^ftl^on t'h'rft 3 1^8,7*6 is the produa: q£ q^iy^f^i idwided by 297, and "yet I «Afelleffgfe *pH*a to find one man of a -^onrrifeud* 'to t«?h6m yoa can tcfader tliis prajw^fictt with demonftrative atftiffiilmtie'mdmix to oonvfi»ce-Mm of T?he sK'tfth l)f I't i-ii a dark roomj or tver to ffHake ^le for foice to make them doit, nnkfs ftxottM fliewthein, which are ]pWef^ifees in tlieir minds, and dcftingmfh thefia frcsn' the if^ath^ there. W^D is l^effe almoft that has not ^r^«to 'make "way f6r a trwth •ndt yet known, nor appearing to be one. It is not every one feno^^vfr, otMcan bring himfelf to Des Cartes' s way of doubting, and ftrip his thougbtS of all' Opi-^ ' nions, till 'he brings them to felf-evident principe^ ^id^heln -upSta ^htem builds all his future tenents. Do not think all the world, who are not of yoar church, afeahdon tfeefta>- felves to an utter carelefsiiiefs of their future fl^e. You <5aHnot but alfow there are many Turks who fincerely feek trath, to wfeoin yet you touM never bring evidence fufficient to convince iheni of the troth of the Chriftian religion, whilft they looked on it as a principle not to be queftioned, that the Koran was of divine revelation. This poflibly you will tell me is zpre-- judice, and foit is; but yet if this man fhall tell you it is no more ^prejudice in him, than it is a prejudice in any one amongft Chriftians,, who having not examined it, lays it down as an unqueftionable pr'inciple of liis rdi^ion, that 'the Scripture is the word of God ; what will you. anfwer to him ? And yet it would fhake 'a great m.?ny Chriftians in their religion, if theylhould lay by that prejudice, and fufpend their judgment of it, until they had made it cut to themfelves with evidence fufficient to convince one who is not preju- diced in favour of it; and it would require more time, books, languages, learning andlkill, than falls to moft men-s ihar^ to ^eftablifli them therein, if you will not allow thera, in this fo diftinguifhing and fuftdatnfent^l a point, to rely on the learning, knowledge and j'udgmeW:«f^fome|ri?;5^.vrhom they have A THiIRD LETrER FOR TOLBRAlTlOl^i 219^6 have In reverence 01? admiration . This though you blame it as an ill way, P. 42 yet you, can allow in one of your own religion, even to that degree, that he may be ignorant of the grounds of his religion. And why then may you not ^llosii^ it to a Turk, not as a good way, or as having led him to the truth i but as a way, as fit for him, as for one of your church to acquiefce in j and as fk to exempt him from your force, as to exempt any one of your ch«rch ^om it ^ ^ To preaM your commenting on this, in which you have fljewnfomuch dexterity, give me leave to tell you, that for all this 1 do- not think all reli- gions equally true or equdly certain. But this, I fay, is impoffible for you». ot me, or any man, to know,, whether another has done his duty in exa- mining the evidence on both fides, when he imbraces that fide of the qjijeftion^ which we, perhaps upon other views, judge falfp t and therefore we cans have no right to punifh or perfecute him for if. In this, whether and how far any one is. faulty, muft be left-, to the fearcher of hearts,, the great atnti righteous Judge of all men, wJiQ: knows all their ciix:uniftances, alt the powers and workings! of their minds;; where it is they fincerely follow, and by what default they at any time mifs truth : and he, we are fure, wiH judge uprightly; But when one man fhall think himfelf a competent judge, that the true idiigion is propofed with evidence fufficient for another ; and thence fhall take upon him. to puni£h him: as an oifender, becaufe he imbraces not, upon evidence that he the propofer judges fufficient, the religion that he, judges true, hehadineed'be able to look into the thoughts, of men, and know their feycml abilities : unlefs he wiU make, his own underftanding and faculties to be the meafure of tbofe of all mankind, which if they be no higher elevated, no larger in their comprehenfion, no more difeerning, than, thofe of fome men, he will not only be unfit to be a judge in thati^but in almoft any cafe whatfoever. But fince,. r. You make it a condition to the making a man an offender in not being of the true religion, that it has been tendred him with fufficient evidence. 2. Since you think.it fo eafy for men to determine when the true religion has been tendered to any one with fu^cient evidence. And 3. Since yx)u pronounce it impiety to fay that God hath notfufnijhed mankind with com^ a. p. 16 fetsent means for "the promoting his own honour in the worlds and the good of fouls. Give me leave to afk you a queftton or two. i. Can any one be faved without imbracing the one only true religion ? 2. Were any of the Americans- of that one only true religion-, when the E^uropeans firft came amongftthem? 3. Whether any of tht Americans, before the Chriftians came amongft them, had o^e««/(?i;/ in reje<5ling the true religion tendred with fufficient e^dfence..?- When you have thought upon, and fairly anfwered thefe queftions, you will be fitter to determine, how. competent a judge man is, what is fufficient evidence 5 who do oifend in not being of the true reli- gion ; and what puaiifhments thc}^ are liable to for it; But methinks here, where you fpend almoft a whole page upon the crime of rejeding the true religion duly tendred, and the punifliment that is juftly F f 3 due tzo A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION due to it from the maglftrate, you forget yourfelf, and the foundation of your plea for force ; which is, that it \% neceJJ'ary : which you are fo far from proving it to be in this cafe of punifliing the offence oi rejedting the true re- ligion, that in this very page you diftinguiftied it from what is neceffary; where you tell us, your dejign does rather oblige you to conjider bom long men may need punijhment, than how long it may he juji to puntjh them. Sp that though they offend, yet if they do not need punifhment, the magiftrate can- not ufe it, if you ground, as you fay you do, the lanvfulnefs of force for pro- moting the true religion upon the necejjity of it. ' Nor can you fay^ that by his commiffion from the law of nature, of doing good, the magiftrate, be- fides reducing his wandring fubje(9:s out of the. wrong into the right way, is appointed alfo to be. the avenger of God's wrath on unbelievers, or thpfe that err in matters of religion. This at leaft you thought not fit to own in the firft draught of your fcheme ', for Wo not remember in all your '• Argu- ment conjidered" one word of critne or punijhment : nay, in writing this fe- cond treatife, you were fo (hy of owning any thing of punijhment, that to my remembrance, you fcrupuloufly avoided the ufe of that word, till you came to this place; and always where the repeating my words did not oblige you to it, carefully ufed the term oi penalties for it, as any one may obferve, who reads the preceding part of. this letter of yours, which I am now ex- amining. And you were fo nice in the point, that three or four leaves back- wards, where I fay. By your rule difTenters muft be punifhed, you mend it, and fay. Or if ^\ pleafe, fubjeSled to moderate penalties. But here when the inquiry, how long force was to be continued on men, (hewed the abfurdity of that pretence, that they were to be puniflied on without end, ^ to make them confider; rather than part with your beloved force, you open the mat- ter a little farther, and profefs diredly the punijlnng men for their religion. For though you do all. you can to cover it under, the name of rejeSiing the true religion duly propofed ; yet it is in truth no more but being of a religion different .from yours, that you would have them puni£hed fear: for all that the author pleads for, and you can oppofe in writing againft him, is tolera- tion ;Qf religion. Your fcheme therefore being thus mended, your hypothe- fis inlarged, being of a different religion from the national found criminal, and punifhments found juftly to belong to it, it is to be hoped, that in good time your punifhments may.grow too, and be advanced to all thofe degrees you in the beginning condemned; when having confidered a little farther, you cannot mifs finding, that the obftinacy of the criminals does not lefiJen their crime, and therefore juftice will require feverer execution to be done upon them. P, 51 But you tell us here, Becaufe your dejign does rather oblige you to confider how long men may needpMniJhment, than how long it may be jufi topunijh them \ therefore yoyx Jhall add. That as long as men refufe to imbrace the true religion, fo long penalties are neceff'ary for them to difpofe them to conjider and imbrace it : and that therefore asjujiice allows, fo charity requires, that they be keptfubjeSl to penalties, till they imbrace the true religion. Let us therefore lee the .ednjifency A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATIOlsf confiftency of this with other parts of 3/bdr hypothefis, and examine it a little by them. Your dodtrine is. That where Intreat'ies and admonitions upon trial do not prevail, punifliments are to be ufed; but they muft be OTOd/'^ra/?. Moderate punifhments have been tried, and they prevail not ; what now is to be done ? Are not greater to be ufed ? No: for what reafon ? Becaufe thofe whom mo- derate penalties will not prevail on, being defperately peruerfe and obftinate, re» medies are not to be provided for the incurable, as you tell us in the page im- mediately preceding. Moderate punifhments have been tried upon a man once, and again, and a third time, but prevail not at all, make no impreffioni they are repeated as many times more, but are ftill found inefFedual : pray tell me a reafon why fuch a man is concluded fo defperately perverfe and objiinatey that greater degrees will not work upon him, but yet not fo defperately perverfe and ob- Jiinate, but that the fame degrees repeated may work upon him ? I will not urge here, that this is to pretend to know the juft degree of punifhment that will or will not work on any "one, which I fhould imagine a pretty intricate bu- finefs : but this I have to fay, that if you can think it reafonable and ufeful to continue a man feveral years, nay his whole life, under the fame repeated punifhments, without going any higher, though they work not at all, be- eaufe it is pbffible fome time or other they may work on him j why is it not as reafonable and ufeful, I am fure it is much more juflifiable and charit abler to leave hitti all his life under the means, which all agree God has appointed^ without going any^'higher, becaufe it is not impoffible that fome time or other preaching, and a word fpoken in due feafbn, may work upon him ? For why you fhould defpair of the fuccefs of preaching and perfiiafion upon a fruitlefs trial, and thereupon, think yourfelf authorized to ufe force j and yet not fo defpair of the fuccefs of moderate force, as after years of fruitlefs trial, to continue it on, and not to proceed to higher degrees of punifh- ment, you are concerned for the vindication of your fyflem to Ihew a reafon. I mention the trial of preaching and perfuafion, to fliew the unreafonable- nefs of youf hypothefis, fuppofing fuch a trial made : not that in yours, or the common method, there is or can be a fair trial made what preaching and perfuafion can do. For care is taken by punifhments and ill treatment, to indifpofe and turn away mens minds, and to add averfion to their fcruples ; an excellent way to foften mens inclinations, and temper them for the- impreflion of arguments and intreaties j though thefe too are only talked of: for I cannot but wonder to find you mention, as you dp, giving ear to admonitions, intreaties and perfuajtons, when thefe are feldom, if ever made ufe of, but in places, vvhere thofe, who are to be wrought on by them, are known to be out of hearing ; nor can be expedled to come there, till by fuch means they have been wrought on. It "is not without reafon therefore you cannot part with your penalties, and would have no end put to your punifhments, but continue them oa; fince- you- ,a^ A. THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ypTj leave fo mwch to their operation^ and make fo little ufe of other means to work upon diflenters. C H A P T E R VI OF THE END FOR WHICH FORCE IS TO BE IXSED. He that (hould read the beginning of your " Argument conjidired" wouldthink it inearneftto be your defi^ to have force imployed. to make men ferioufly QQnfider, and nothing elfe : but he that (hall look a little farther into it, and tq that add alfo your Defence of it, will find by the variety of ends, you defign your force for, that either yoo know not weH what you would' have it fcr, or dfe, whatever it was you aimed at, you called it ftill by that name which beft fitted the occafion> and would ferve beft in. that place to recom- mend the ufe of it. P. 27 You afk me. Whether the mildnefi and: gentlenefs of the Gojpel defir^s-tBe' (SpaMi'VA. poimr of the magifttate t I anfwer, as you fuppofedj No : upon- wiiiefe yxm infer, Tihen. itfeems- the ma^jhatemay ufe' his coaSMve po'wer, iniiB^ outoffrndisgagaa^i the mildhefi and gmtknefs of t^e Qofpel. Yes, where he. has. commiffion and authority to ufe lU Andfii, > fay you, it will cmfiji i&ell mof/^h^iakk the^milSnefs and gentknefs (f the Gtfpel for the- magijirate to ufe bis coaSlive- power ta procure them [1 fuppofe you mean the minifters and preachers of. the national' religion] a hearing i&here their prayers andrintreaties will not da it ^ No*, it wilt not confifl: with the gentle and mild method of the Gofpel^. unlefs the Gofpel has direded it, or fomething elfe to fuppfy its want, till: it could be had; As for miracles, which you pretend to have fiipplied the want of force in the firft ages of Chriftianity, you will find, that confidered in another place. But, Sif> fhew me a country where the minifters ands teachers of the national and true religion go about with praytrs^ and intreaties to procure a hearing, and cannot obtain it, and there I think I need not ftand vsrith you for the magiftrate to ufe force to procure it them ; but that I fear will not ferve your turn. To fhewtfae inconfiftency and unpradlicablenefs of your method, Lhad L, II, p. 90 faid, " Let us now fee to what end they muft be punished : fometimes it is> A. p. 5 " 21? bring them to ConJMer thofe reafons and arguments iifhich are proper and *' fufficient to convince them: of what? That it is not eafy to fet Grantham- " fteeple upan Paul's church ? Whatever it be you would have, them "/convinced of, you are not willing to tell us; and fo it may be any A. p. 10 " thing. Sometimes it is. To incline them to lend an ear to thofe who tell *' them they ha%ie mifinke-ntheir way, and ojfer^ to fkw them the right. Which A. p. 27 •' is, to lend an ear to all who differ from them in religion, as well crcfty " feducers, as others. Whether this be for the. procuring the fdPaation- of A, -p. 23 " their- fouh, the end for which - you fay this force is to ' be ufed, *' judge- you. But this tarn fure^ whoever will lend an ear to all who will " tell w A 'JH-IRD -L^Tt^K FOR TOLERATION i2.23233 *' Tell them 'fi^ ar-emt ofi^ewayt will not have much time "for any Other ** bafinefs. *' •■^felnetimts kiis, To^ecmer mft to fo niueh fifbfieiy 'and refleSlion, 'as A.-^. n "' f&rwufy 'to fut thb q^'^Man to ^thmfiliks, 'mfhether it he rmlly 'Worth their " while toundipgQ fu^h%V6reoenimoes, for adhmng to a religion 'mhiCrh, fir " -Ofty -thing 'fhey 'kmav^ "Mity be fittfe ; or fir feje'Bing another f if that he the " ^fe^ -idhi&hy fit -o^ht -they know, may be true, till th^ i>iidoing>^ it to follow their own prejudices^ bUMSurs, orf&me crtfty "^^ fiducirs ? Need not tliOfe of the national church, as well as others, bring ** 4%efr religion to 'the bar of reafott, and grve it a fair trial t her et And if *"* ^^y 'need to do fo, as they muft, if all national religions cannot be fup- ** p'ofed true, 'they will always need that which you fay is the orily means to make them do fo. SothiL.\.ify that from eight perfons fpread and continued in the world till the Apoftles times, as I have proved in another place, was propagated and fupported zM that while by your kinds or degrees of force, you may have fome reafon to think as well of the religion of the church of England, as you have of Noah'j religion, though you think it cannot be propagated and fupported without fome kinds or degrees of force. But till you can prove that, you cannot upon that ground fay you have reafon to havefo good an opinion of it., P. II You tell me. If I will take yoMV word for it, yoM ajjicre me you think there are many other countries in the world befides England, where my Toleration wotdd be as little ufeful to truth as in England. If you will name thofe countries, which will be no great pains, I will take your word for it, that you believe Toleration there would be prejudicial to truth : but if you will not do that, neither I nor any body elfe can believe you. I will give you a reafon why I fay fo, arid that is, Becaufe no body can believe that, upon ypur principles, you can allow any national religion, differing from that of the church of England, to be true j and where the national religion is not true, we have already youf confent, as in Spain and Italy, etc. for Toler- ation. Now that you cannot, without renouncing your own principles, allow any national religion, differing from that eflablifhed here by law, to be true, is evident : For why do you punifh Nonconformifls here ? To bring them, fay you, to the true religion. But what if they hold nothing, but what that other differing national church does, fhall they be neverthelefs punifhed if they conform not ? You will certainly fay. Yes : and if fb, then you mufl either fay, they are not of the true religion, or elfe you mufl own you punifh thofe, to bring them to the true religion, whom you allow to be of the true religion already. p. J I You tell me. If I own with our author, that there is but one true religion, and I owning myfelf to be of the church of England, you cannot fee how 1 can avoid fuppqfing, that the national religion «ow /« England, backed by the pub- lic authority of the law, is the only true religion. If I own, as I do, all that you here expedt from me, yet it will not ferve to draw that conclufion from It, which you do, viz. That the national religion now in ^n^znd is the only true religion; taking the true religion in ' the fenfe that I do, and you ought to take it. I grant that there is but one true religion in the world, which is that whofe dodtrine and worfhip are neceffary to falvation. I grant too that the true religion, neceffary to falvation, is taught and profeffed in the A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 233 the chureh, of England: and yet it will not foliow" from hence, that the religion of the church of Ei^gland, as ejiablijhed by law, is the only true . re- ligion ; if there be any thing eftablifhed in the church of England by law, and made pa[rt of its religion, which is not neceflary to falvati6n, and which any other church, teaching and profeffing all that is neceflary to falvation, does not receive. If the national religion now in England, backed by the authority of the law, be, as you would have it, the onfy true religion; fo the only true religion, that a man Cannot be faved without being of it ; pray reconcile this, with what you fay in the immediately; preceding paragraph, 'uiz.. That there are many other countries in the world where my Toleration would be as little ufeful as in England. For if there be other national religions differing from that of Englandi which you allow to be true, and wherein men may be faved, the nationar religion of England, as now ejlablijhed by law, is not the only tr'ue religion, and men may be faved without being of it. And then the ma^ giftrate can upon your principles have no authority to ufe force to bring men to be of it. For you tell us. Force is not lawful, unlefs it be neceffary ; and therefore the magiftrate can never lawfully ufe it, but to bring men to believe and pra(ftife what is neceffary to falvation. You muff therefore either hold, that there is nothing in the do(9:rine, difcipline and ceremonies of the church of England, as it is eftabliflied by law, but what is neceffary to falvation : Or elfe you muff reform your terms of communion, before the magiftrate upon your principles can ufe penalties to make men confider till they conform ; or you can fay that the national religion of England is the only true religion, though it contain the only true religion in it ; as poflibly moft, if not all, the differing Chriftian churches now in the world do. You tell us farther in the next paragraph, That wherever this only true?-, it religion, i. e. the national religion now in England, is received, all other re- ligions ought to be difcouragid. Why I befeech you dilcoufaged, if they be true any of them ? For if they be true, what pretence is there for force to bring men who are of them to the true religion ? If you fay all other re- ligions, varying at all from that of the church of England, are falfe ; we know then your meafure of the one only true religion^ But that your care is only of Conformity to the church of England, and that by the true reli- gion you mean nothing elfe, appears too from your way of exprefling youf felf in this paffage, where you own that yo\i/uppofe that as this only true re-^ tigion, to wit, the national religion now in England, backed with the pub- Ibid lie authority of law, ought to be received whenever it is preached ; fo where- ever it is received, all other religions ought to be difcouraged in fame meafure by the civil powers. If the religion eftabliflied by law in England, be the only true religion, ought it not to be preached and received every where, and all other religions difcouraged throughout the world ? and ought not the ma- giftrates of all countries to take care that it fhould be fo ^ But you only fay> wherever it is preached it ought to be received y and wherever it is received, other religions ought to be difcouraged, which is well fuited to your fcheme Hh for 234 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION for inforcing Conformity in England, but could fcarce drop from a man whofe thoughts were on the true religion, and the promoting of it in other parts of the world. Force then muft be ufed in England, and penalties laid on DifTenters there. For what ? to bring them to the true religion, whereby it is plain you mean not only the doftrine but difcipline and ceremonies of the church of Eng- land, and make them a part of the only true religion : Why elfe do you punifh all Diflenters for lejedting the true religion, and ufe force to bring them to it ? When yet a great, if not the greateft part of DifTenters in England own and profefs the dodlrine of the church of England, as firmly as thofe in the communion of the church of England. They therefore, though they believe the fame religion with you, are excluded from the true church of God, that you would have men brought to> and are amongft thofe who rejeSt the true religion. I afk whether they are not in your opinion out of the way of fahxation, who are not joined in communion with the true church ? and whether there can be any true church without bifhops ? If fo, all but Conformifts in England that are of any church in Europe, befides the Lutherans and Papifts, are out of the loay offalvation, and fo according to your fyftem have need of force to be brought into it : and thefe too, one for their dodlrine of tran- fubftantiation, the other for that of eonfubftantiation, to omit other things vaftly differing from the church of England, you will not, I fuppofe, allow to be of the true religion : And who then are left of the true religion but the church of England ? For the Abyffines have too wide a difference in many points for me to imagine, that is one of thofe places you mean where Toleration naotdd do harm as well as in. England. And I think the religion of the Greek church can fcarce be fpppofed by you to be the true. For if it ihould, it would be a ftrong inflance againfl your affertion, that the true religion cannot fubfift, but would quickly be effeftually extirpated without the affiflance of authority, fince this has fubfifled without any fuch affifl- ance now above two hundred years. I take it then for granted, and others with me Cannot but do the fame, till you tell us, what other religion there is of any church, but that of England, which you allow to be the true re- ligion, that all you fay of bringing men to the true religion, is only bring- ing them to the religion of the church of England, If I do you an injury in. this, it will be capable of a v^ry eafy vindication : for it is but naming that other church differing from that of England, which you allow to have the true religion, and I fhall -yield my felf convinced, and fhall allow thefe P. II words, viz. The- national religion now in England, backed by the public autho- rity of law, being the only true religion, only as a little hafly fally of your zeal. In the mean time I fhall argue with you about the ufe of force ta bring men to the religion of the church of England, as eflablifhed by law : fincQ it is more eafy to know what that is, than what you mean by the true religion, if you mean any thing elfe.. To A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION z^i To proceed therefore ; in the next place I tell you, by ufing force your way to bring men to the religion of ,the church of England, you mean only to bring them to an outward profeflion of that religion ; and that, as I have told you elfewhere, becaufe force ufed your way, being applied only to Dif- fenters, and ceafing as foon as they conform, whether it be intended by the law -maker for any thing more or no, which we have examined in another place, cannot be to bring men to any thing more than outward Conformity. For if force be ufed to Diflenters, and them only, to bring men to the true religion, and always as foon as it has brought men to Conformity, it be taken oiF, and laid afide, as having done all is expedted from it; it is plain, that by bringing men to the true religion, and bringing theni to outward Con- formity, you mean the fame thing. You ufe and continue force upon Dif- fenters, becaufe you expecSt fome efFe£t from it : when you take it off, it has wrought that effedt, or elfe being in your power, why do you not con- tinue it on ? The effect then that you talk of, being the imbracing the true religion, and the thing you are fatisfied with without any farther punifhment, expeiStation, or inquiry, being outward Conformity, it is plain imbracing the tr-ue religion and outward Conformity with you, are the fame things. Neither can you fay it is prefumable that thofe who outwardly conform do really underftand, and inwardly in their hearts imbrace with a lively faith and a fincere obedience, the truth that muft fave them, i . Becaufe it being, as you tell us, the magijirate's duty to do all that in him lies for the falvation of all his fubjedts, and it being in his power to examine, whether they know and live futable to the truth that muft fave them, as well as conform, he can or ought no more to prefume, that they do fo, without taking an account of their knowlege arid lives, than he can or ought to prefume. that they conform, without taking any account of their coming to church. Would you think that phyfician difcharged his duty, and had, as was pre- tended, a care of mens lives,, who having got them into his hands, and knowing no more of them, but that they come once or twice a week to the apothecary's fhop, to hear what is prefcribed them, and fit there a while, fliould fay it was prefumable they were recovered, without ever examin- ing whether his prefcriptions had any effect, or what eftate their health was in ? 2. It cannot he prefumable, where there are fo many vifible inftances to the contrary. He muft pafs for an admirable prefumer, who will ferioufly affirm that it is prefumable that all thofe who conform to the national reli- gion where it is true, do fo underftand, believe and pradtife it, as to be in the way of falvation. 3. It cannot be prefumable, that men have parted with their corruption and lufis to avoid force, when they fly to Conformity, which can (helter them from force without quitting their lufts. That which is dearer to men than their firft-born, is, you tell us, their lufis ; that which is harder p. 7 than the hardjhips of falfe religions, is the mortifying thofe lujis : here lies the difficulty of the true religion, that it requires the mortifying of thofe H h 2 lufts i A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION Ivifts i and till that be done. Men are not of t:be true refipofi', nor in the way (ffalvation : And it is upon this account .only that you pretend force tobeneed^l. Force is .ufed to make them hear ; it prevails, men hear: but that is not enough, becaufe the difficulty lies not in that; they may hear arguments for the truth, and yet retain their corruption. They muft do more, they muft confi^er thofe arguments. Who ' requires it of them ? The law that inflifbs the punifhment, does riot j but this we may be fure their love of their lufts, and their hatred of puniifliment requires of them, and will bring them to, vi'z. to gonfider how to retain their beloyed lafts,. and yet avoid the uneafinefs of the punifhment they- lie under ; this is pre- furhable they do ; therefore they go one eafy ftcp farther, they conform, and then they are fafe from force, and may flill retain their corruption. Is it therefore prefumable they have parted with their corruption, becaufe force has driven t^em to take fanAuary againft punifhment in conformity, where force is no longer to moleft them, or pull them from their darling inclina- tions ? The difficulty in religion is, you fay, for men to part with their lufts ; this makes force, neceffary : Men find out a way by conforming to avoid force without parting with their lufts, therefore it is prefumable when they confortn, that force which they can avoid without quitting their lufts, has made them part with them j which is indeed not to part with their lufts, becaufe of force, but to part with them gratis ; which if you tan fay \s prefut^able, the foundatibn of your need of force, which yptt place in the prevalericy of corruption, and mens adhering to their lufts, will be gone> and fo there will be no need of force at all. If the great difficulty in reli- fion be for men to part with or mortify their luft«, and the only counter- allance in the other fcale, to affift the true religion, to prevail againft their lufts, be force; which Ibeleech you is prefumable, if they can avoid force,, and retain their lufts, that they ftiould quit their lufts, and heartily imbrace the true rehgion, which is incompatible with them ; or elfe that they fhould avoid the force, and retain their lufts ? To fay the former of thefe, is to fay that it is prefumable, that they will quit their lufts, and heartily imbrace the true religion for its own fake : for he that heartily imbraces the true re- ligion, becaufe of a force which he knows he can avoid at pleafure, with- out quitting his lufts, cannot be faid fo to imbrace it, becaufe of that force : Since a force he can avoid without quitting his lufts, cannot be faid to affift truth in making him quit them : For in this truth has no affift- , ance from it at all. So that this is to fay there is no need of force at all in the cafe. Take a covetous wretch, whdfe heart is fo fet upon money, that he would give his frji- born to fave his bags ; who is purfued by the force of the ma- giftrute to an arreft, and compelled to hear what is alledged againft him ; and the profecution of the law threatning imprifonment or other punifta- ment, if he do not pay the juft debt which is demanded of him: If he enters himfelf in the King's-bench, where he can injoy his freedom without paying the debt, and parting with his money ; will you fay that it is pre- fumable ^ A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 237(7 fiimabk he did it to pay the debt, and not to avoid the force of the law ? The luft of the flefh and pride of life are as ftrong and prevalent as the luft of the eye : And if you will deliberately fay again, that it is prefumable, that men are driven by force to confider, fo as to part with their iufts, when no more is known of them, but that they do what difcharges them from the force, without a«y neceffity of parting with their Iufts j I think I fhall have occafion to fend you to my Pagans and Mahometans, but fliall have no need to iay any thing more to you of this matter my felf. I agree with you, that there is but one only true religion; I agree toa that that one only true religion is profefled and held in the church of Rng" Iflnd; and yet I deny, if force may be ufed to bring men to that true re- ligion, that upon your principles it can lawfully be ufed to bring men to the national religion in England diS eftablifhed by law; becaufe force, according' to your own rule, being only lawful becaufe it is neceflary, and thferefore unfit to be ufed where hot neceffary, i. e. neceflary to bring men to falvation, P. 30 it can never be lawful to be ufed to bring a man to any thing, that is not neceflary to falvation, as I have more fully (hewn in another place. If therefore in the national religion of England, there be any thing put in as iieceffary to communion, that is, , though true, yet not neceffary to falvation, force cannot be lawfully ufed to bring men to that communion, though the thing fb required in it felf may perhaps be true. There be a great many truths contained in Scripture, which a man may be ignorant of, and confequently not believe, without any danger to his falvation, or elfe very few would be capable of falvation : for I think I may truly fay, there was never any one, but he that was the wifdom of the fa- ther, who was not ignorant of fome, and miftaken in others of them. Ta. bring men therefore to imbrace fuch truths, the ufe of force by your own rule cannot be lawful : becaufe the belief or knowledge of thofe truths themfelves not being neceffary to falvation, there can be no neceffity mea- fhould be brought to imbrace them, and fo no neceffity to ufe force to bring, men to imbrace them. The only true religion which is neceffary to falvation, may in one national church have ihat joined with it, which in itfelf is manifeftly falfe and re- pugnant to falvation ; in fuch a communion no man can join without quit- ting the way of falvation. In another national church, with this only true religion may be joined, what is neither repugnant nor neceffary to falvation ; and of fuch there may be ieveral churches differing one from another in confeffions, ceremonies and difcipline, which are ufually called different re- ligions, with either or each of which a good man, if fatisfied in his own mind, may communicate without danger, whilfl another not fatisfied in confcience concerning fomething in the doftrine, difcipline, or worfhip,. cannot fafely, nor without fin, communicate with this or that of them. Nor can force be lawfully ufed, on your principles, to bring any man to either of them, becaufe fuch things are required to their com- munion, which not being requifite to falvation, men may ferioufly and con- A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION confcientioufly differ, and be in doubt about, without indangering their fouls. That which here raifes a noife, and gives a credit to it, whereby many are mifled into an unwarrantable zeal, is, that thefe are called different religions ; and every one thinking his own the true, the onl)r true condemns all the reft as falfe religions. Whereas thofe who hold all things neceffary to falvation, and add not thereto any thing in dodlrine, difcipline or worfhip, inconfiftent with falvation, are of one and the fame religion, though divided into dif- ferent focieties or churches, under different forms : which whether the paffion and polity of defigningj or the fober and pious intention of well- meaning men, fet up, they are no other, than the contrivances of. men, and fuch they ought to be efteemed in whatfoever is required in them, which God has not made neceffary to falvation, however in its own nature it may be indifferent, lawful or true. For none of the articles, or confeffions of any church, that I know, containing in them all the truths of religion, though they contain fome that are not neceffary to falvation, to garble thus the truths of religion, and by their own authority take fome not neceffary to falvation, and make them the terms of communion ; and leave out others as neceffary to be known and believed, is purely the contrivance of men : God never Jiaving appointed any fuch diftinguifhing fyftem : nor, as I have fhewed, can force, upon your principles, lawfully be ufed to bring men to imbrace it. Concerning ceremonies, I fhall here only afk you, whether you think kneeling at the Lord's Supper, or the crofe in baptifm, are neceffary to fal- vation ? I mention thefe as having been matter of great fcruple : If you will not fay they are, how can you fay that force can be lawfully ufed to bring men into a communion, to which thefe are made neceffary ? If you iay. Kneeling is neceffary to a decent uniformity, for of the crofs in baptifni I have fpoken elfewhere, though that fhould be true, yet it is an argument you cannot ufe for it, if you are of the church of England: For if a des- cent uniformity may be well enough preferved without kneeling at prayer, where decency requires it at leaft as much as at receiving the Sacrament, why may it not well enough be preferved without kneeling at the Sacra- ment ? Now that uniformity is thought fufiiciently preferved without kneeling at prayer, is evident by the various poftures men are at liberty to ufe, and may be generally obferved, in all our congregations, during the minifter's prayer in the pulpit before and after his fermon, which it feems can confifl well enough with decency and uniformity ; though it be at prayer, addreffed to the great God of heaven and earth, to whofe majefty it is that the reverence to be expreffed in our geftures is due, when we put up peti- tions to him, who is invariably the fame, in what or whofe words foever we addrefs our felves to him. The preface to the Book of Common-Prayer tells us. That the rites and ceremonies appointed to be ufed in divine worjhip, are things in their own nature indifferent and alterable. Here I afk you, whether any human power can make A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION make any thing, in its own nature indifferent, neceffary to falvation ? If it cannot, then neither can any human power be juftified in the ufe of force, to bring men to Conformity in the ufe of fuch things. If you think men have a.uthority to make any thing, in itfelf indifferent, a neceffary part of God's worfliip, I fhall defire yoii to confider what our author fays of this matter, which has not yet deferved your notice. The mifapplying his power, you fay, is zjin in the tnagijlrate, and lays him open to divine vengeance. And is it not a mifapplying of his power, and a fin in him to ufe force to bring men to fuch a compHance in an indifferent thing, which in religious worfliip may be a fin to them ? Force, you fay, may be ufed to punifh thofe who diffent from the communion of the church oi England. Let us fuppofe now all its dodtrines not only true, but necef- fary to falvation -, but that there is put into the terms of its communion fome indifferent adtion which God has not injoined, nor made a part of his worfliip, which any man is perfuaded in his confcience not to be lawful ; fuppofe kneeling at the Sacrament, which having been fuperfl:itioufly ufed in adoration of the bread, as the real body of Chrift, may give occaiion of fcruple to fome now, as well as eating of flefli offered to idols did to others in theApofl:les timej which though lawful in it felf, yet the Apoftle faid, he would eat nojlejh while the world Jiandeth, rather than to make his weak brother offend, i Cor. viii, 13. And if to lead, by example, the fcrupu- lous into any adion, in it felf indifferent, which they thought unlawful, be a fin, as appears at large, Rom. xiv. how much more is it to add force to our example, and to compel men by punifliments to that, which, though indifferent in it felf, they cannot join in without finning ? I defire you to fliew me how force can be neceffary in fuch a cafe, without which you ac- knowledge it not to be lawful. Not to kneel at the Lord's Supper, God not having ordained it, is not a fin ; and the Apoftles' receiving it in the pofl:ure of fitting or lying, which was then ufed at meat, is an evidence it may be received not kneeling. But to him that thinks kneeling is unlaw- ful, it is certainly a fin. And for this you may take the authority of a very judicious and reverend prelate of our church, in thefe words.; Where a man- is mijiaken in his judgment, even in that cafe, it is always a Jin to aSi againfi it i hyfo doing, he willfully aSls ag'ainji the befi light which at prefent h^ has for the direSion of his aSiions. Difc. of Confcience, p. 1 8. I need not here repeat his reafons, having already quoted him above more at large ; though the whole paffage, writ, as he ufes, with great ftrength and clearnefsj de- ferves to be read and confidered. If therefore the magiftrate injoins fuch an unneceffary ceremony, and ufes force to bring any man to a finful commu- nion with our church in it, let me aflc you, Doth he fn,. or mifapply his power or no ? True and falfe religions are names that eafily ingage mens affedtions on the hearing of them ; the one being the averfion> the other the defire, at leaft as they perfuade themfelves, of all mankind. This makes men forwardly give into thefe names, wherever they meet with them i and when mention is ;24o A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION is made -of bringing men from falfe to the true religion, very often without knowing what is meant by thofe names, they think nothing can be done too much in fuch a bufinefs, to which they intitle God's honour, and the fal- vation of mens fouls. I fhall therefore defire of you, if you are that fair and iincere lover of truth you profefs, when you write again, to tell us what you mean by true^ and what by ^ falfe religion, that we may know which in your fenfe are fo : for as you now have ufed thefe words in your treatife, one of them feems to ftand only for the religion of the church oi' England, and the other for that of all other churches. I exped: here you {houid make the fame outcries againft me, as you have in your former Letter, for impofing a fenfe upori your words contrary to yt>ur meaning; and for this you will appeal to youf own words in feme other places : but of this I fhall l^ve the reader judge, and tell him, this is a way very eafy and very ufual for men, who having not clear and confident notions, keep themfelves as much as they can, under th6 fhelter of general, and varioufly applicable terms, that they may fave them- felves from the abfurdities or confequences of one place, by a help from forae general or contrary expreffion in another : whether it be a defire of vie true religion, till you have proved that all that is required of one in that communion, is necelTary to falvation. P. 21 '> However therefore you tell us. That convenient force ufed to bring men td P. 17, 18 the true religion, is all that yoiix contend for, and All that you alloio. That it is P. 28, 29 for promoting, the true religion. That it is to bring men to confder, fb as not P. 26 to rejeSl the truth necefjary to falvation. To bring men to imbrace the truth that miift fave them. And abundance more to this purpofe. Yet all this talk of the true religion amounting to no more but the national religion efla- blifhed by law in England; and your bringing men to it, to no more than bringing them to an outward profeffion of it ; it would better have fuited that condition, viz. without prejudice, and with an honefl mind, which you require in others, to have fpoke plainly what you aimed at, rather than prepoflefs mens mind§ in favour of your caufe, by the impreffions of a name that in truth did not properly belong to it. L, II, p. 71 It was not therefore without ground that I faid, *' I fufpefted you built " all on this lurking fuppofition, that the national religion now in England, " backed by the public authority of the law, is the only true religion, and *' therefore no other is to be tolerated j which being a fuppofition equally ** unavoidable, and equally jufl in other countries ; unlefs we can imagine, «' that every where but in England^ men believe what at the fame time they " think A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATIOI^ 241.1 " think to be a lie," etc. Here you eredt your plumes, and to this your triumphant logic gives you not patience to anfwer, without an air of viftory in the entrance : How, Sir, is this fuppofition equally unavoidable, and equally'?- " jttji in other countries, where falfe religions are the national ? (for ' that you mujl mean, or nothing to the purfofe.J Hold, Sir, you go too faft ; take your own fyftem with you, and you will perceive it will be enough to my pur- pofe, if I mean thofe religions which you take to be falfe : for if there be any other national churches, which agreeing with the church o{ England in what is neceflary to falvation, yet have eftabliftied ceremonies different from thofe of the church of England; ftiould not any one who diffented here from the church of England upon that account, as preferring that to our way of worfliip, bejuftly puniflied ? If fo, then punifhment in matters of religion being only to bring men to the true religion, you muft fuppofe him not to be yet of it, and fo the national church he approves of, not to be of the true religion. And yet is it not equally unavoidable, and equally juft, that that church fliould fuppofe its religion the only true religion, as it is that yours fhould do fb, it agreeing with yours in things neceffary to falvation, and having made fome things, in their own nature indifferent, requifite to con- formity .for decency and order, as you have done ? So that my faying, It is equally unavoidable, and equally^ juiiiaj?^/' ^M«a/r/?j, will hold good, with- out meaning what you charge on me, that that fuppofition is equally una- voidable, and equally juft, where the national religion is abfolutely^^. But in that Jarge fenfe too, what I f^d will hold good ; and you would have fpared your ufelefs fubtilties againft it, if you had been as willing to take my meaning, and anfwered my argument, as you were to turn_what f faid to a fenfe which the words themfelves fhew I never intended. My ar- gument in fliort was this. That granting fcwrce to be ufeful to propagate and fupport religion, yet it would be no advantage to the true religion, that you a member of the church of England, fuppofing yours to be the true religion, fliould thereby claim a right to ufe force, fince fuch a fuppofition to thofe who were members of other churches, and believed other religions, was equally unavoidable, and equally, juft. And the reafon I annexed, fhews both this to be my meaning, and my affertion to be true : my words are, *' Unkfs we can imagine that every where but in England, men believe " what at the fame time they think to be a lie." Having therefore never faid, nor thought that it is equally unavoidable, or equally juft, that men in every country fliould believe the national religion of the country ; but that it is equally unavoidable, and equally juft, that men believing the na- tional religion of their country, be it true or falfe, fliould fuppofe it to be true ; and let me here add alfo, fliould endeavour to propagate it : you how- ever go on thus to reply ; If fo, then I fear it will be equally true too, and equally rational: for otherwife I fee ' not how it can be equally unavotSable, or equally juji : for fit be not equally true, it cannot be equally juji ; and if it be not equally rational, it cannot be equally unavoidable. But if it he equally true, and equally rational, ^then either all religions are true, or none is true : li for A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION for if they be all equally 'true, and one of them he mi true, then none of them can be true. \ chaiLenge any one to put tbefe four good words, unavoidi^k, juji, rational, and ^/-k^-, more ^^to*?/^ together, or to make a better- wrought dedu(3;ion : but after all, my argument will ueyerthelefs be good, that it is no advantage to your caufe, for you or any one of it, tp fuppofe yours to be the only true religion ; fince it is equally unavoidable, and equally juft for any one, who believes any other reliigioxi, to fuppofe the fame thing,. And this will always be fb, till you can ft»ew, that men cannot receive falfe reli- gions upon arguments that appear to them to be good ; or that having re- ceived falfhood under the appearance of truth, they can, whilfl it fb appears, do otherwife than value it, and be adled by it, as if it were true, r For the equality that is here in queftion, depends not upon the truth of the opinion imhraced, but on this, that the light and perfuafion a man has at prefent, is the guide which he ought to follow, and which in his judgment of truth he cannot avoid to be governed by. And therefore the terrible confe<^«eAces you dilate on in the following part of that page, I leave you for yopr private ufe on fome fitter occafion. You therefore who are fo apt, without caufe, to complain of want of in- genuity in others, will do well hereafter to confult your own, and another time change your ftile ; and not under the undefined name of the true religiex, becaufe that is of more advanftage to your argument, mean only the religion eflablifhed by law in England, fhutting out all other religions now profeified in the world. Though when you have defined what is the true religion, which you would have fupported and propagated by force j and have told us it is to be found in the liturgy and thirty-nine articles of the church of England; and it be agreed to you,- that that -is the only true religion, yomr ar- gument for force, as neceflary to mens fakation, from the want of light and flrength enough in the true religion to prevail againfl mens lufls, and the corruption of their nature, will not hold; becaufe your bringing men by force, your way applied, to the true religion, be it what you will, is but bringing them to an outward conformity to the national church. But the bringing them fo far, and no farther, having no oppofition to their lufls, no inconfiflency with their corrupt nature, is not on that account at all necef- fary, nor does at all help, where only, on your grounds, you_ fay, there is need of the affiflance of force towards their falvation. CHAPTER VIII OF SALVATION TP BE PROCURED BY FORCE YOITR WAY. There cfannot be imagined a more laudable defign than the promoting the felvation of mens fouls, by any one who fhall undertake it. But if it be a pretence made ufe of to coyer fome other by-interefl, nothing can be more odious ; to men, nothing more provoking to the great God of heaven and earth. A TftiRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION '2^^ earth, nothing more mifbecoming the name and charafler of a Chriftian. With what intention you took your pen in hand to defend and incourage the ufc of force in the bufinefs of mens falvation, it is fit in charity we take your word; but what your fcheme, as you have delivered it, is guilty of, it is my bufinefs to take notice of, and reprefent to you. To my faying, that ** if perfecution, as is pretended, were for the falvation L. ll, p. 76 ** of miens foxrls^ bare conformity would not ferve the turn, but men w^ould *» be examined whether they do it upon reafon and convi(5lion :" You an- fwer, Wh they be that pretend that perfecution is for the falvation ofmensfouls, P. 22 yon knoti} not. Whatever you know not, I know one, who in the Letter un- der cortfideration pleads for force, as ufeful for the promoting the falvation cf ? . 17 mens fouls,: and that the ufe of force is no other means for the falvation of?.^! mens fouls t than what the Author and Finijher of our faith has directed. That fofar is the magijirate, mohen he gives his helping hand to the furtherance of the p, 3a Gofpel, by laying convenient penalties uponfuch as rejeSi it, or any part of it, from ufng any other means for the falvation of mens fouls than what the Au- thor and Finijher of our faith has direSled, that he does no more than his duty for promoting the falvation of fouls. And as the means by which men may be?. 58 brought into the way of falvation. Ay, but where db you fay that perfecution is for Xhe falvation of fouls f I thought you had been arguing againft my meaning, and againft the things I fay, and not againft my words in your meaning, which is not againft me. That I ufed the word perfecution for what you call force and penalties, you knew: for in p. 21, that imme- diately precedes this, you take notice of it, with fome little kind of wonder, in thefe words, perfecution, fo it feems you call all punijhments for religion. That I do io then, wheth^ properly or improperly, you could not be ig- norant J and then, I befeech you, apply your anfwer here to what I fay : my words are, ** If perfecution, as is pretended, were for the falvation of mens *' fouls, men that conform would be examined whether they did fo upon *• reafon and convidtion." Changemy word perfecution into punifament for religion, and then confider the truth or ingenuity of your anfwer : for in that fenfeof the wotA perfecution, do you know no body that pretends perfecution is for the falvation of mens fouls f So much for your ingenuity, and the arts you allow yOu'rfelf to ferve a good caufe. What do you think of one of my Pagans or Mohammedans f Could he have done better ? For I fliall ofteri have occafion to mind you of them. Now to your argument. I faid, " That I thought thofe who make laws, and ufe force, to bring men to " church-conformity in religion, feek only the compliance, but concern *' themfelves not for the convidtion of thofe they punifh, and fo never ufe " force to convince. For pray tell me, when any diflenter conforms, and " enters into the church-communion, is he ever examined to fee whether " he does it upOTi reafon and conviSlion, and fuch grounds as would become a " Chriftian concerned for religion? If perfecution, as is preterded, were " for the falvation of mens fouls, this would be done, and men not driven " to take the facrament to keep their places, or obtain licences to fell ale, I i 2 " for 244 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION — " for fo low have thefe holy things been proftituted." To this you here P. 22 reply, As to tbofe magijirates^ who hamng provided fufficienlly for thein- firvhion of all under their care, hi the true religion, do make laws, and ufe mtderate penalties, to bring men to the communion of the church of God, and conformity to the rules and orders of it, I think their behaviour does plainly enough fpeak them to feek and concern themfelves for the conviSiion of thofe whom they punijh, and for their compliance only as the fruit of their conviSiian^ If means of inftruJ and concern themfelves much for the conviStion of thofe they punijh, whenthat punifhment is not levelled at thatj which is a hindrance to their conviction, /. e. againft their averfion to fever e and impartial examination. To that averfion no punilhment can be pretended to be a remedy, which does not reach and combat the averfion ; which it is plain no punifliment does, which may be avoided without part- ing with, or abating the prevalency of that averfion. This is the cafe, where men undergo pijnifhnilents for not conforming, which they may be rid of, withouty^'u^r^/)' and impartially examining matters of religion. To fhew that what I mentioned was no fign of unconcernednefs in the ma- Ibid, giftrate, for mens convidlion j yon ■SlM, Nor does the contrary appear from the not examining dijj'enters when they conform, to fee whether they do it upon reafon and conviSiion : for where fuficient injiruction is provided, it is ordinarily pre- fumable that when dijjenters conform, they do it upon reafon and conviction. Here \i ordinarily fignifies any thing, for it is a word you make much ufe of, whe- ther to, exprefs or cover your fenfe, let the reader judge, then you fuppofe there are cafes wherein it is not prefumable -, and I afk you, whether in thofe, or any cafes, it be examined whether diflenters when they conform^ do it upon, reafon and conviction? At beft that it \& ordinarily prefumable, is but gratis dictum, efpecially fince ypu fuppofe, that it is the corruption of their nature that hinders them from confidering as they ought, fo as upon reafon and conviction to imbrace the truth : which corruption of nature, that they may retain with conformity I think is very prefumable. But be that as it will, this I am fure is ordinarily and always prefumable, that if thofe who ufe force were as intent upon mens convidtion, as they are on their conformity, they would not wholly content themfelves with the one, without ever examining and looking into the other. Ibid. Another excufe you make .for this negledt, is. That as to irreligious perfons who only feek their fecular advantage^ how eafy it is for them to pretend convic- tion. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION tion, and to offer fuch grounds (if that ivere required) as would become a CbriJUan concerned for religion ; that is, what no care of man can certainly prevent. This is an admirable juftification of your hypothefis. Men are to be puniflied : to what end ? To make them feverely'^ and impartially confder matters of religion, that they may be convinced, and thereupon fincerely im- brace the truth. But what need of force or puniflim'qnt for this ? Becaufe their lufts and corruptions will otherwife keep them both from confdering as they ought, and imbracing the true religion; and therefore they muft lie under penalties till they have confidered as they oughts which is when they have upon conviction imbraced. But how fhall the magiftrate know when they upon conviction imbrace, that he may then take oiF their penalties ? That indeed cannot be known, and ought not to be inquired after, becaufe irreligious perfons who only feek their fecular advantage ; or, in other words^ all thofe who defire at their eafe to retain their beloved lufts and corrupt tions, m2iy eqfily pretend conviSlion, and offer fuch grounds fif it were required) as would become a Chrijlian concerned for religion : this is what no care of man can certainly prevent. Which is reafon enough, why no bufy forwardnefs in man to difeafe his brother, fhould ufe force upon pretence of prevailing againft men's corruptions, that hinder their confidering and imbracing the: truth upon convidtion, when it is confeffed:, it cannot be known, whether they have confdered, zx^ convinced, or have really imbraced the true religion or no. And thus you have fliewn us your admirable remedy, which is not it feems for the irreligious, for it is eafy, you fay, for them to pretend to con- vision, and fo avoid punifliment, but for thofe who would be religious- without it. But here, in this cafe, as to the intention of the magiftrate, how can it be faid, that the force he ufes is defigned by fubduing mens corruptions, to make way for confidering and imbracing the truth, when it is fo applied,, that it is confeffed here, that a man may get rid of the penalties without parting with the corruptions, they are pretended ta be ufed againft ? But you have a ready anfwer. This is what no care cf man can certainly prevent ; which is but in other words to proclaim the ridiculoufnefs of your ufe of force, and to avow that your method can do nothing. If by not certainly,. you mean it may any way, or to any degree prevent, why is it not fo done I If not, why is a word that fignifies nothing put in, unlefs it be for a fhelter on occafion ? A benefit you know how to draw from this v^ay ©f writing t- but this here taken how you pleafe, will only ferve to lay blame on the ma- giftrate, or your hypothefis, chufe you whether. I for my part have a bet- ter opinion of the ability and management of the magiftrate : what he aimed* at in his laws, that I believe he mentions in them, and as wife men do in> bufinefs, fpoke out plainly what he had a mind fhould be done. But cer- tainly there cannot a more ridiculous character be put on law-makers, than? to tell the world they intended to make men confider, examine, etc. but yet neither required nor named any thing in their laws but conformity. Though yet when men are certainly to be puniflied for not really imbracing the true- religion,. 246 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION religion, there ought to be certain matters of fadt, whereby thoiii that do, and thofe that do not fo imbrace the truth, fhould be diftinguifhed ; and for that you have, it is true, a clear and eftabliflied criterion, /. e. confor- mity and nonconformity : which do very certainly diftinguifh the innocent from the goiky ; thofe that really and fincerely do imbrace the truth that mujifave themy from thofe that do not. But, Sir, to refolve the queftion, whether the convlftion of mens under- ftandings, and the falvation of their fouls, be the buiinefs and aim of thofe who ufe force to bring men into the profeffion of the national religion ; I afk, whether if that were fo, there could be fo many as there are, not only in moft country parifhes, but, I think I may fay, may be found in all parts of England, grofly ignorant in the doftrines and principles of the Chriftiart religion, if aftridt inc[uiry were made into it ? If force be neceffary to be ufed to bring men to falvation, certainly fome part of it would find out fbme of the ignorant ahd unconfidering that are in the national church, as well as it does fo diligently all the nonconformifts out of it, whether they have confidered, or are know^ing or no. But to this you give a very ready P. 64 anfwer ; Would you have the magijirate punijh all indifferently, thofe who obey the law as well as them that do not 'I What is the obedience the law re- p. 63 quires ? That you tell us in thefe words, If the ma^Jirate provides Jkfficientfy for the inJiruBion of all hisfubjeSls in the true religion, and then requires them all under convenient penalties to hearken to the teachers and tiiinijiers of it, and fo profefs and exercife it with one accord under their direSiion in public ajjem- Mies: which in other words is but conforrtiity, which here you exprefs a P. 22 little plainer in thefe words ; But as to thofe magijlrates who having provided fufficiently for the inJiruSiion of all under their care in the true rdigion damake laws, and ufe moderate penalties to bring men to the communion of the' church of God, and to conform to the rules and orders of it. You add. Is there any pre- tence to fay that in fo doing, he [the magiftrate] applies force only to apart of hisfubjeSis, when the law is general, and excepts none? There is no pretence, I confefs, to fay that in fo doing he applies force only to a part of his fub- Jedts, to nfiake them conformifts, from that it is plain the law? excepts none. But if conformifts may be ignorant, grofly ignorant of the principles and dodrines of Chriftianity ; if there be no penalties ufed to make them conf- der as they ought, fo as to underftand, be convinced of, believe and obey the truths of the Gofpel, are not they exempt from that force which you fay is P- 37 to make men confider and examine matters of religion as they ought to do ? Force is applied to all indeed to make them conformifts : but if being conformifts once,' and frequenting the places of public worfhip, and there fhewing an outward compliance with the ceremonies preferibed, for that is all the law requires of all, call it how you pl'eafe, they are exempt from all force and penalties, though they are never fo ignorant, never fo far from underftand- ing, believing, receiving the truths of the Gofpel ; I think it is Evident that P. 16 then force is not applied to all to procure the eonviStion of the underfianding. P. 26 ^c brin^ men to conjider thofe reafons and arguments which are proper to cdn- vince A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 247 wnce the mind, and mhich •without being forced, they would not confider. To ?. 29 bring men to that confider af ion, which nothing elfe but force ( befdes the extraor- dinary grace of GodJ would bring them to. To make men good Chrijiians. p. 23 To make men receive infiruSiion- To cure their averfion to the true religion. P. 43 To bring mm to confider and examine the controverfiu which they are bound?. 58 to confider and examine, i. e. thofe wherein they cannot err without difhonouring'? . % God, ^nd indangering their own and other mens eternal falvation. To weigh?. 16 matters of religion carefully and impartially. To bring men to the true religion P. 13 and to falvation. That then force is not applied to all the fubjedts for thefe ends, I think yo« will not deoy. Thefe are the ends for which you tell us in the places quoted, that force is to be ufed in matters of religion : it is by it^ ufefulnefs and neeejity to thefe ends, that you tell us the magiftrate is an-, thorized and obliged to «fe~force in matters of religion. Now if all thef& ends be not attained by a bare conformity, and yet if by a bare conformity men are wholly exempt from all force and penalties in matters of religion, will you fay th^t for thefe ends force is applied to all the magiftrate's fub- J€<5ts ? If you will, I muft fend you to my Pagans and Mohammedans for a Utile confcience 9.tiA modejiy. If you confefs force is not applied to all for thefe ends, notwithftanding any laws obliging all to conformity, you muft alfo confefs, that what you fay concerning the laws being general, is nothing to the pcirpofe ', fince all that are under penalties for not conforming are not under any penalties for ignorance, irreligion, or the want of thofe ends for which you fay penalties are ufeful and necejfary. You go on, And therefore if fuch perfons frophane the facrament to keep?. 22 their places, or to obtain licences to fell ale, this is an horrible wickednefs. I ex- cufe thetii not. But it is their own, and they alone mufi anfwer for it. Yes; and thofe who threatned poor ignorant and irreligious ale- fellers, whofe live- lihood it was, to take away their licences, if they did not conform and receive the facrament, may be thought perhaps to have fomething to anfwer for. You add, hut it is very unjufi to impute it to thofe who make fuch laws, andufe?, 23 fuch force, or to fay that they profiitute holy things, and drive men to profane them. Nor is it jufl to infinuate in your anfwer, as if that had been faid which was not. But if it be true that a poor ignorant loofe irreligious wretch fhould be threatned to be turned out of his calling and livelihood, if he would not take the facrament : may it not be faid thefe holy things have been fo low proflituted ? And if this be not profaning them, pray tell me what is ? This I think may-be faid without injuftice to any body, that it does not appear, that thofe who make flrid: laws for conformity, and take no care to have it examined upon what grounds men c6nform, are not very much con- cerned, that mens underflandrngs fhould be convinced: and though you go on to fay, that they defign by their laws to do what lies in them to make men gcod Chrijiians : that v/ill fcarce be believed, if what you fay be true, that force is p. eg neceffary to bring thoje who cannot be otherwife brought to it, to ftudy the true religion, is^ithfuch care and diligence as they might and ought, to ufe, and with an 24? A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION anhoneji mind. And yet we fee a great part, or any of thofe who are. igno- rant in the true religion, have no fuch force applied to them, elpecially P. 58 fince you tell us, in the fame place, that no man ever fiudied the true religion 'with fuch care anddiUgence as he might and ought to ufe, and with an honeji mind, but he was convinced of the truth of it. If then force and penalties can produce xh?i\.Jiudyi care, diligence and honefl mind, which will produce knowledge and convidiion and that, as you fay in the following words, make goo'd men ; I afk you, if there be found in the communion of the church, exempt from force upon the account of religion, ignorant, irreligious, ill men ; and that to fpeak moderately, not in great difproportio^i fewer than amongft the nonconformifts, will you believe yourfelf, when you fay the Magi/lrates do by their laws all that in them lies to make them good Chriflians j when they ufe not that force to them which you, not I, fay is neceffary ; and that they are, where it is neceffary, obliged to ufe ? And therefore I P. 23 give you leave to repeat again the words you fubjoin here. But if_ after all they \i. e. the magiftrates] can do, wicked and godlefs men willjiill refoJve to be fo, they will be fo, and I know not who but God Almighty can help it. But this being ipoken of iconformifts, on whom the magiftrates lay no penalties, ufe no force for religion, give me leave to mind you of the ingenuity of one of my Pagans or Mohammedans. You tell us. That the ufefulnefs of force to make fchojars learn, autho- rizes fchoolmafters to ufe it. And would you not think a fchoolmafter dif- charged his duty well, and had a great care of their learning, who ufed his rod only to bring boys to fchool j but if they come there once a week, whether they flept, or only minded their play, never examined what profi- ciency they made, or ufed the rod to make them ftudy and learn, though they would not apply themfelves without it ? But to fhew you how much you yourfelf are in earneft for the falvation of fouls in this your method, I fhall fet down what I faid, p. 1 1 1, of my Letter on that fubjeft, and what you anfwer, p. 68, of yours. L. 11, p. 1 1 1. «« You ipeak of it here as the L. Ill, p. 68. Tour next " moft deplorable condition imaginable, that paragraph runs high, and *' men Jhould be left to themfelves, and not be charges me with nothing lefs *' forced to confider and examine the grounds of than prevarication. JPor " their religion, and fear ch impartially anddili- whereas, as you tell me, I " gently after the truth. This you make the fpeak of it here as the mofi *• great mifcarriage of mankind ; and for this deplorable condition imagin- *♦ you feem folicitous, all through your treatife, able, that men Jhould be left " to find out a remedy j and there is fcarce a to themfelves, and not be *' leafwherein you do not offer yours. But what forced to confider and ex- ',' if after all, now you fhould be found to pre- amine the grounds of their *' varicate ? Men have contrived to themfelves, religion, and fearch impar- *' fay you, a great variety of religions. It is tially and diligently after the '^ granted. They feek not the truth in this truth, etc. It feems all the '* matter ' • remedy A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ** matter mth that appKc^ition of mind, and that remedy I offer, is no more ** freedom of judgment which is requifte : It is than this, Diffenters mufl: *' confefled. All tbi falfe religions now on foot be punifhed. Upon which *' in the world, have taken their rife from the thus you infult ', Can any "flight and partial confideratiSh, which men body .that hears you fay fb, ** have contented themfelves with in fearching believ«^ you in earneft, etc. ** if ter the true ; and men fake them up, and Now here I acknowledge, *• perfiji in them for want of due examination : that though want or negleSl •* Be it fo. 'there is need of a remedy for this; of examination be a general *' and 1 have found one whofefuccefs cannot be fault, yet the method I pro~ ** quejiioned : Very well. What is it? Let us pofe for curing it, does not " hear it. Why, Diffenters muji be punijhed. reach to all that are guilty *' Can any body that hears you fay fo, believe of it, but is limited to thoje " you in earneft I and that want of examination who rejeSi the true religion, ** is the thing you would have amended, when propofed to them with fuf- " want of examination is not the thing you ficient evidence. But then " would have punifhed ? If want of examin- to let you fee how little ground " ation be the fault, want of examin- you have to fay that I pre- *' ation muft be punifhed ; if you are, as you varicate in this matter, I *• pretend, fully fatisfied that punifliment is Jhall only defre you to con- " the proper and only means to remedy it. But fder, what it is that the *' if in all your treatife you can fhew me one author and my felf were *' place, where you fay that the ignorant, the inquiring after : For it is *• carelefs, the inconfiderate, the negligent in not, Wh0 courfe is to be " examining throughly the truth of their own taken to confirm m, may it *^ to, but to the Scriptures. Search the Scrip- guiky bf negieS of examine ** tures, for in them ysu think, you have eternal ation ; 'tis evident, I was ** life, fays our Saviour to the uabeUeving per- only concerned tojhew how it " feeuting Jews, John, v, 39. And it is the may be cnred. in thoje, %-h9 *' Scriptures which St. Paul fays, are abk to by reafon (f it, reje^ the ** make wife unto falvat ion, 11 'Tim. in, 15. true religion, duty propofed or " Talk no more therefore, if you have any tendered to th^mf. Andcertain^ ,♦♦ care of your reputation, how much it is ly to con^e myfe^to this, is *' every man's intereji not to be left to himfelf, nta to prevaricate, ttnkf to ** without mo}eflationi without pitniJJiiment in keep within the bounds W'hich ^' matters of reiigim. Talk not of bringing the qMefion wider debate ,pre^ *' men to imbraee the truth thatm»fi fav^e tlhem, Ji:riivs me, be to preiMiricate. " by putting them upon examinathn. Talk In telling me tker^ore that *' no more o/i farce ^.vApunifhment, as the vnfy I dare not fay that* the ig* " way left to bring men to examine. It is evi- norant, thecareieis, the in* " dent you mean nothing lefs : For though confiderate, the ir^ligent *' want of examination be the only fa-alt you in examining^ etc. (i e. all "complain of, zn6. punifhment be in your that are fuchj are to be *' opinion tlie anly way to bring men to it ; and puniflied, j^o« only tell me that " this the whole defign of your book ; yet yt)u X dare not be impertinent. " have not once propofed in it, that thofe who And therefore I hope you will " do not impartially examine, fhould be forced excufe me. If I take no no- *'■ to it. And that you may not think I talk: tice of the three re^fons you *' at random, when 1 fay you dare not; I ofer in your next page for *' will, if you pleafe, give you, fome neaions your faying fa. Abid yet if '*■ for my faying fo. . I had a mind to talk mper- •• Firfi, Becaufe if you propofe that all tinently, I know not why I " fhould bepmiiflbed, wha are ignosant,. who might not have dared to do *' have not ufed fnch conf deration as is apt fo, as wellas other men. '^' and pr.oper to manifefl the truth; but have There is one thing more in- '■' been determined in the choice of their religion this paragraph, which though ^'^ by impreffims of ediisation,. admiration of nothing more pertinent thajf' A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION •* pefJbnSy 'wofiMi refpd^i, prejudices, and the the rejt, I jhall not ivbotly *' like incompetent motives j and hanoe taken up pafs over. It lies in thefi «• their religion, without' esiamining it as they words ; He that reads your ^' ought I you will pr-opofe to have fevexal of treatiie with attention, will ** your own church, be it what it Will, pu- be more confirmed in this <* niftied; which would be a propofition too opinion, fviz.. That I ufe •* apt to ofifend too many of it, for you to want of examination only fof «* venture on. For whatever need there be a pretence to puntfh Diffen- ** 0f reformation, every one will not thank ters^ etc.) when he fhall find <' you fof propofing fuch an one as muft be- that you> who are io earn&ft *' gin at,oratleaftreaeh to, thehoufeof God. to have men punifhed, to " Secoitdfyy Becaufe if you fhould propofe bring them to confider and " that all tbofe who are ignorant, carelefsand examine, that fo they may " negligent in exsimihing, fhould be punifhed, difcover the way of falvation, '" you would have little to fay in this queftion have not faid one word of " of Toleration : For if the laws of the ftate corifidering, fearching and ** were made as they ought to be, equal to all hearkning to the Scripture j *• the fubjedts, without diftindtion of men which had been as good a ** of different profefHons in religion ; and the rule for a Chriflian to haVe " faults to be amended by punifliments, were fent them to, as to reafons " impartially punifhed in all who are guilty and arguments proper to " 8f them J this would immediately produce convince them, of you knoW *' a perfedl Toleration, or (hevf the ufelefsilefa not what, etc. How this con- •* of force in matters of religion. If there- firms that opinion, Ida not " fore you think it fo neeeljary, as you fay, Jee ; nor have you thought ft ** for the promoting of true religion, and the to infrilSi me. But as ta *' falvation of fouls, that men fhoula be the thing itfelf, vi^. my not *' punijhed to make them examine j do but find faying one word of confider-* *' a- Way to apply force to all that have not ing, fearching, and heark- " throiighfy and impartially examined, and you ning to the Scripture; what- *' have my confent. For though force be not ever advantage a captious ad~ " the proper means of promoting religion ; verfary may imagine he has *' yet there is no better way to fhew the ufe- in it, I hope it will notfeem " lefsnefs of it, than the applying it equally f range to any indifferent and " to mifcarriages, in whomfbever found, and judicious perfon, who Jhali " not to diflindt parties or perfuafions of men, but confder that throughout "for the reformation of them alone, when my treatife I fpeak of the true " others are equally faulty. religion only in general^ /. e. " Thirdly, Becaufe without being for as mt as limited to any particu- *' large a Toleration as the author propofes, lar dtfpenfation, ot to the *' you cannot be truly and fincerely for 2^ free times '(f the Scripttires ; but ♦' and impartial examination. For whoever as reaching from the fall of "examines, muft have the liberty to judge, Adam to the end of the worldi " and follow his judgment ^ or elfe you put, and fo comprehending the times " him upon examination to no purpofe. And which "preceeded the Scrip- whe- K. k a tures \ 2852- A-THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION *' whether that will not as well lead men tures; tobereinpf- God left *< from, as to your church, is fo much a ven- not himfelf without wit- " ture, that by your way of writing, it is nefs, but furniped mankind ". evident enough you, are loath to hazard it; nioitb fufficient nieam' of know- '* and if you are of the national church, it is ing him and his^itty in\order " plain your brethren will not bear with" you to their eternal fahation. "in the allowance of fuch a liberty. You For I appeal to all men cf *' muft therefore either change your method; art, 'whether, /peaking riiatter, and then take your only means, your particular times, or dtfpen^ 'f.Jjeloved force, and make the beft of it j or fations ; fuch as you cannofi " elfe you muft put off your mafk, and con- but acknowledge the Old and *f fefs diat you defign not your puniihments New Teftaments to be. "to. bring men to examination, but to Con- "formity. For the fallacy you have ufed, is " too grofs topafs upon this age. . In this your anfwer, you fay, the fi4>je^.qf, our inquiry is only what wethord is to be ufed to bring men to the true religion. He that reads what you ily, p. 76, 77, again and again. That the magiftrate is impowered and obliged to procure as 78 much as in him lies, i. e. as far as ly penalties it can he procured that no man negleS bis foul, and fliall remember how many pages you imploy, A. p. 6, etc. , And here p. 6, etc. to ftiew that it is the corruption of human nature which hinders men from doing what they may and ought for the falvation of their fouls, and that therefore penalties, no other means being left, and force were neceffary to be ufed by the magiftrate to remove thefe great ob- ftacles of lufls -^n^ corruptions, that noneofhisfubjeSls might remain ignorant of the way of falvation, or refufe to imbrace it. One would thiivk your in- quiry had been after the means of curing mens averfon to the true religioj^, (which you tell us, p. 53, if not cured, is certainly deJlruSiive of mens eter- palfahationj that fo they might heartily imbrace it for their falvation. But here you tell us, your inquiry is only what method is to be ufed' to bring men to- the true religion : Whereby you evidently mean nothing but out-ward Con- formity to that which you think the true church, as appears by the next following words ; Now if this be the only thing we were inquiring qftfeir, then every one fees that infpeaking to this point, I had nothing th do "Mth any who _,i have already imbraced the true religion. And alfo every one fees that fince amongft thofe with whom (having already imbraced the true religion J you ■asidt. your penalties have nothing to do; there are thofe who have not confidered and examined matters of religion as they ought, whofe- lufts and corrupt na-^ tures keep them as far alienated from believing, and as averfe to a xeal obey- ing the truth that muft lave them, as any other men; it is manifeft that im^ A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION imbracing the true religion inyourfenfe is only imbracing the outward profeflion of it, which is nothing but outward Conformity. And that being the far- theft you would have your penalties purfue men, and there leave them with, as much of their ignorance of the truth, and carelefaefs of their fouls, as they pleafe, ^yho can deny but that it would he impertinent in you to con- fider how want of impartial examination, or an)erJio&. to th& true religion, Ihould in them be cured ? Becaufe they are none of thofe fubjedts of the commonwealth, whofe J^irittial and eteraalinterejis^re by political government to he procured or advancedy none of thofe fubjedls "whoiJi Jalvation the tnst-- giftrate is to take care of. . And therefore I excufe yoxit as you defire, for not taking notice of my three reafons ; but whether the reader will do fb or no, is more than I can under-- take. I -hope you too will excufe me for having ufed fo harfh a word as prevaricate, and impute it to my want of fkill in the Engli{h tongue. But when I find a man pretend to a great concern for the falvation of mens fouls, and make it one of the great ends of civil government, that the magiftrate ihould make ufe of force to bring all his fubjeds to confder, Jiudy and exa- mine, believe and imbrace the truth that mujifave them ; when I fliall have to- do with a man, who to this purpofe hath writ two books to find out and defend the proper remedies for that general backwardnefs and averfion, which depraved human nature keeps men in, to an impartial fearch after, and hearty imbracing the true religion ; and who talks of nothing lefs than ob- ligations on fovereigns, both from their particular duty, as well as from common charity, to take care that none of their fubjfefytat£d to arty partituhr diffenfation : Though one that were not (* man ^ Art would fufped: you to be df another mind yo&t felf, when you «olid us, the fi^iiitting out of tfe£ |ews frorft the rights of rflecottimon wed th, is tdjufi 'And iiec^My 'c^tid^ in A Chrijiian tomMdnnitiedl'h -: Which you fay to P. 5 j-ufttfy y^W ^x-cfeptbtt itt the besginning of your " ^ut^gicinent" againft the. i^tgenefs t>f thfe aath«6t's Tolfer^ti ^o WOdM not bavt JeWs excluded. 'BwxJ^ik'of fbe ^ite teK^hH f>niy in general z& m^ch as you pleafe, if your tvtie nligioH be that by which men muft be feved[> 'can you fend a. man to any ' feeitef guide to that tr^^ t^Bgim now tban the Scripfufe ? If when you were in youf altitudes, writing the firft book, your men cf »ri cMid ticA Mc/w you iQ defcend U any fiich ruk as the Scri^ptute, though a. p^ 13 even there you acknowledge the feveritics fpofeen againft, are fuch as are ufed to make toen Chriftiafis^ b^cau^ there, by an art propef to your felf, you were to fpeak of true religion tender a ge^W'ahiy, Which had no'^Mftg to do with tht duty of Chtiftians, in reference to Tdefatioft. Yet when here in your fecond I^Dok, where you cottdeicen'd all along to fpeak of the christian liELiGio^f> and tell us, ih^X the magijirales haOe authority to- make laws for promoting the Chri^i^n religion ; and do by their laws dejign to contribute what in thetniies tamah men gwd chkistXa^s ; and complain of Toleration as the very bane of th Ufe Undjpirit of Christianity, fete, and have Vouch- fajfed particularly to mention thieGo^el; Whyhefe, having been called upoa for it> you could not fend men to the Scriptufes, and tell them direfitly, that tfeofe they wetet5'j?2«^ diligently, ihofe they wete impartially andcare^ fttlly to examine^ to bring thein to \ht ttne religion, and into the way of falvatiott; rather than talk to theiii as you do, of receiving in^ftruB^n, zi\& conjidering reafbns and arguments proper and fufficient to convince them ; rather than propofe, as you do all along, fuch objefts of examination and inquiry in general terms, as are as hard to be found, as the thing itfelf for which they are to be examined : Why, i fayjiyou have here again avoided fending; men to examine the Scriptures, isjuftpiatter of inquiry. And for this youf. muft apply your felf again to your men of art, to furnish you with feme other reafon. If you will but cafl: your eyfes back to your next page, you will' there find that you build upon this, that theficbfect of your and the author's irrquiry^ is only what mei'hodis to he ufed to bring men to the true y-eligion,. If this be- fo, your men of a^t, who cannot allow you to 'defend to- any fuch rule as thd Scriptures, becaufe you fpeak of the true religion in general, i, e. not as ii'- mited to any particular dtfpenfatiou or to the times of the Scriptures, muft: aUow, that you deferve to be head of their college ; fince you are fo ftridi au zs6 A THIRD LETTER FOR T0LE1R.ATI0N an obferver of their rules, that though your inquiry be, W&af method is to be ujed to bring men to the true religion^ now under the particular difpenfation of the Gofpel, and under Scripture-times i you think it an unpardonable fault to recede fo far from yom generality, as to admit the ftudy and exami- nation of the Scripture into your method j for fear, it is iike, your method would be too particular^ if it would not now ferve to bring men to the true •religion, who lived before the flood. But had you had as good a memory, as is generally thought needful to a man of art, it is believed you would have fpared this reafon, for your being fo backward in piitting men upon examination of the Scripture. And any one, but a man of art, who {hall P. 31 read what you tell us the magiftrate's duty is j and will but confider how convenient it would be, that men (hould receive no inftrudlion but from the minijiry^ that you there tell us the magiftrate ajjijls ; examine no arguments, ^ hear nothing of the Gofpel, receive no other fenfe of the Scripture, but what that mintftry propofes ; who if they had but the coadtive power, you think them as capable of as other men, might ajjiji themfelves ; he, I lay, who refleds but on thefe things, may perhaps find a reafon that may better fatisfy the ignorant and unlearned, who have not had the good luck to arrive at being of the number of thefe men of art, why you cannot defoend to pfopofe to men the ftudying of the Scripture. Let me for once fuppofe you in holy orders, for we that are not of the Adepti, may be allowed to be ignorant of the pundlilio's in writing obferved by the men of art, and let me then afk what art is this, whofe rules are of that authority, that one, who has received commiflion from heaven to preach the Gofpel in feafon and out of feafon, for the falvation of fouls, may not allow himfelf to propofe the reading, ftudying, examining of the Scripture, which has for at leafl thefe fixteen hundred years contained the only true religion in the world j for fear fuch a propofal ftiould offend againft the rules of this art, by being too particular, and confined to the Gofpel- Difpenfation; and therefore could not pafs mufler, nor find admittance, in a treatife wherein the author profefTes it his only bufinefs to inquire what method is to be ufed to bring men to the true religion^ Do you expedl any other difpenfation j that you are fo afraid of being too particular, if you fhould recommend the ufe and fludy of the Scripture, to bring men to the true religion now in the times of t]|e Gofpel ? Why might you not as vjell fend them to the Scriptures, as to the minifters and teachers of the true religion ? Have thofe minifters any other religion to teach, than what is contained in the Scriptures ? But perhaps you do this out of kindnefs and care, becaufe pofSbly the Scriptures could not be found j but who were the mincers of the true religion, men could not poflibly mifs. Indeed you have allowed your felf to defend to what belongs only to fame particular times and difpenfations, for their fake, when you fpeak of the minifies of the Gofpeh But whether it Ife as fully agreed on amongfl Chriftians, who are the mi- nifters of the Gofpel that men mufl hearken to, and be guided by ; as which are the writings of the ApofUes and Evangelifts, that, if ftudied, wiU inftrudt A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 25? inftrudl them in the way to heaven y is more than you or your men of art can be pofitive in. Where are the canons of this over-ruling art to be found, to vphich you pay fuch reverence ? May a man of no diftinguifhing cha- radler be admitted to the privilege of them ? For I fee it may be of notable ufe at a dead-lift, and bring a man off with flying cojqurs, when truth and reafbn can do him but little fervice. The ftrong guard you have in the powers you write for j . and when yOu have ingaged a little too far, the fafe retreat you have always at hand in an appeal to thefe men. of art, made me almoft at a ftand, whether I were not beft make a truce with one who had fuch auxiliaries. A friend of mine finding me talk thus, replied brifkly, it is a matter of religion, which requires not men of art ; and the afliftance of fuch art as favours fo little of the fimplicity of the Gofpel, both fhews and makes the caufe the weaker. And fo I went on to your two next pa- ragraphs. In them, to vindicate a pretty ftrange argument ibr the magiftrate's ufe of force, you think it convenient to repeat it out of your ^. p. 26, and fo, in compliance with you, fhall I do here again. There you tell us, T&e power you afcribe to the magiftrate, is given him to bring men, not to his own,- but to the true religion : And though (as our author puts us in mind) the reli" gion of every prince is orthodox to himfelf; yet if this power keep within its bounds, itcanferve the inter eft of no other religion but the true, among fuch as have any concern for their eternal falvation ; (and thofe that have none, deferve not to beconftderedj be caufe the penalties it inables him that has it to infliSl, are not fuch as may tempt fuch perfons either to renounce a religion which they believe to be true, or to profefs one which they do not believe to befo ; but only fuch as are apt to put them upon a ferious and impartial examination ofthecontroverfy. be- tween the magiftrate and them, which is the way for them to come to the know- ledge of the truth. And if upon fuch examination of the matter, they chance to find that the truth does not lie on the magiftrate sftde, they have gained thus much however, even by the magiftrate' s nnfapplying his power,- that: they know better than they did before, where the truth doth'Ue: And all the hurt that comes to them by it, is only the fuft'ering fome tolerable inconveniences for their following the light of their own reafon, and the diSiates of their own con- fciences ; which, certainly, is no fuch mifchief to mankind as to . make it more eligible that there ft^ould be no fuch power vefted in the magiftrate, but the care of every man's foulftoould be left to himfelf alone, (as this author demands it Jhould be.) To this I tell you, " That here, out of abundant kindnefs, when Dif- L.II,p. 113 " fenters have their heads, without any caufe, broken, you provide them a •' plaifter." For, fay you, if upon fuch examination of the matter, (i. e. brought to it by the magiftrate's punifhment) they chance to find that the truth doth not lie on the magifirate sfide ; they have gained thus much however, even by the magiftrate's mifapf lying his power, that they know better than they did before, where the truth does lie. " Which is as true as if you fhould fay ; *• Upon examination I find fuch an one is out of the way to Tork, there- L 1 " fore 258 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION *' fore I know better than I did before that I am In the right. For neither " of you may be in the right. This were triie indeed, if there were but ** two ways in all, a right and a wrong." To this you reply here ; That P. 70 whoever Jhall conftder the penalties^ will, you ferfubde your Jeff, find no heads broken, and fo but little need of a plaifter. 'The penalties , as you fay, are to be fuch as will n6t tempt fuch as have any concern for their eternal fahation, either to renounce a teligion which they believe to be true, or prtfefs one which they believe not to be Jo, but onely fuch as, being weighed in gold fcales, are juft enough, or as you exprefs it, are apt to put them upon a ferious and im- partial examination of the controverfy between the magifirate and them. If you had been pleafed to have told us what penalties thofe Were, we might have been able to guefs whether there would have been broken heads or no. But fince you have not vouchfafed to do it, and if I miftake not, will again appeal to your men of art for another difpenfation rather than ever do it, I fear no body can be fure thefe penalties will not reach to Ibmething worfe P- 7 than a broken head: Efpeeially if the magifirate fhall obferve that you im- pute the rife and growth oi falfe religions, which it is the magiftrate's duty to hinder, to the pravity of human nature, unbridled by authority -, which, by p, 8 what follows, he may have reafon to think is to ufe force fufficient to coun- ter-ballance the folly, perverfenefs, and wickednefs of men : And whethef then he may not lay on penalties fufficient, if not to break mens heads, yet to ruin them in their eftates and liberties, will be more than you can under- take. And fince you acknowledge here, that the magiftrate may err fo far in the ufe of this his power, as to miftake the perfons that he lays his pe- nalties on ; will you be fecurity that he {halt not alfo miftake in the pro- portion of them, and not lay On fuch as men would willingly exchange for a broken head ? All the affurance you give us of this is, If this power keep within its bounds, i. e. as you here explain it. If the penalties the ma- giftrate makes ufe of to promote a falfe religion, do not exceed the meafure of thofe which he may warrantably ufe for the promoting the true. The- magiftrate may, notwithftanding any thing you have faid, or can fay, ufe any fort of penalties, any degree of punifhment ; you having neither fhew'ed the mea- fure of them, nor will be ever able to fhew the utmoft meafure which may not be exceeded, if any may be ufed. But what is this I find here ? If the penalties the magiftrate make ufe of to promote a false religion. Is it.poffible that the magiftrate can make ufe of penalties to promote ^ falfe religion ; of whom you told us but three pages back. That it may always be faid of him, (what St. Paul faid of him- JelfJ That he can do nothing againft the truth, but for the truth ?, By that one would have thought you had undertaken to us, that ,the magiftrate could no more ufe force to promote a falfe religion, than St. Paul could preach to promote a falfe religion. If you fay, the magiftrate has no com- miflion to promote a falfe religion, and therefore it may always be faid of him, what St. V2xi\ faid of himfelf, etc. I fay, no minifter was ever commiffioned to preach falfhood ; and therefore it may always be faid of every minifter, (what A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 25:^^ (what St. VzMlJaidof hmjklf) th^t he can do. mthing againfi the truth, hut for the truth : WhereSy we ihall very commodioufly have an infallible guide in every parifh, as well as one in every commonwealth. But if you thus ufe Scripture, I imagine you will have reafon to appeal again to your men of art, whether, though you may not be allowed to recommend to others the examination and ufe of Scripture, to find the true religion, yet yoii your felf may not ufe the Scripture to what purpofe, and in what fenfe you pleafe, for the defence of your caufe. To the remainder of what I faid in that paragraph, your anfwer is no- thing but an exception to an inference I made. The argument you were upon, was to juftify the magiftrate's inflicfting penalties to bring men to a falfe religion, by the gain thofe that fuffered them would receive. Their gain was this ; That they laould know better than they did before^ •where the truth does lie. To which, I replied, *' Which is as true, as if you *• ihould fay, upon examination I find fuch an one is out of the way to *' Tork i therefore I know better than I did before, that I am in the right." This confequence you find fault with, and fay it ihould be thus ; 'therefore P. 70 I kmia better than Ididbeforet where the right way lies. This, you tell me, would have been true j mhich .was not for my purpofe. Thefe confequences, one or the other, are much-what alike true. For he that of an hundred ways, amongft which there is but one right, fliuts out one that he difcovers certainly to be wrong, knows as much better than he did before, that he is in the right, as he knows better than before, where the right way lies. For before it was ninety nine to one he was not in the right ; and now he knows it is but ninety eight to one that he is not in the right j and there- fore knows fo much better than before, that he is in the right, juft as much as he knows better than he did before, where the right way lies. For let him, upon your fuppofition, proceed on ; and every day, upon examination ■of a controve^rfy with fome one of the remaining ways, difcover him to be in the wrong ; he will every day know better than he did before, equally, where the right way lies, and that he is in it j till at laft he will come to difcover the right way it felf, and himfelf in it. And therefore your inference, whatever you think, is as much as the other for my pur- pofe ; which was to {hew what a notable gain a man made in the variety of falfe opinions and religions in the world, by difcovering that the magtftrate had not the truth on bis fide ; and what thanks he owed the magiftrate, for inflicting penalties upon him fo much for his improvement, and for affording him fo much knowledge at fo cheap a rate. And fhould not a man have reafon to boaft of his purchafe, if he fhould by penalties be driven to hear and examine all the arguments can be propofed by thofe in power for all their foolifh and falfe religions ? And yet this gain is what you propofe, as a juftification of magiftrates inflidling penalties for promoting their falfe reli- gions. h'cA an impartial examination of the controverfy between them and the P. 70 magijirate, you tell us here, is the way for fuch as have any concern for their eternal falvation, to come to the knowledge of the truth. LI 2 To a6o A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATIO^f To my faying, " He that is punished may have examined' before, and P, 71 " thealam Aire he gaim nothing:" Yow ve^ly. But nekh^r does he hfe much, if it be true., which you there add, that 'all the hurt that befalls him, is only_ the fuff'ering fame tolerable inconvenience for hivfolhwing the light of his own reafon, and the diBates of his confcience. So it is therefore you would have a man rewarded for .being an honeft man ; (for fo- is he •wh.o follows' the light of ^his own reafon,' and the diSlates of his confiienci -,) onlf with the fuffering fome tolerable inconveniences. And yet \!i\Qiz tolerable inconveniences zx€ i\\i^ as are to counterballance mens lujis, 'and the corruption of depraved nature ; which you know any flight penalty i& fufficient to mafter. But that the rriagilliate's difcipline fhaJi flop atthofeyour tolerable inconveniences, is what you are loth to be guarantee for : For all the fecurity you dare give of it, is> ^ it be true' which you there add. But if it fliould be othervvife, the hurt may be more I feeihan y@u are willing to anfwer for.- L. II, pi 114. " However,. L. Ill, p. 7r. As to what you foy here ** you think you do well to in- of the nature of my dilcourfe, ijhall on^ ** courage the magifirate in pu- put you in mind that the quejlion there de- " nifhing, and comfort the man bated is ; Whether the magijirate has any " who has fufFered unjuflly, by right or authority to ufe force for the " fhewing what he fhall gain by promoting the true religion. Which plain- *' it. Whereas, on the contrary, ly fuppofes the unlawfulnefs and injuflice *• in a difcourfe of this nature, of ujing force to promote a falfe religion-i " where the bounds of right and as granted on both fdes-. So that I could " wrong are inquired into^ and no- way be obliged to take notice of it in my " fhould be eftablifhed,. the ma- difcourfe, but only as occafon Jhould be " giftrate was to be fhewed the offered. " bounds of hia authority, and And whether I have not fhewed the " warned of the injury he did bounds of the magiftrate's authority, as *' when he mifapplies his power, far as- 1 was any way obliged to do it, ' let *' and punifhed any man who de- any indifferent perfon judge. But to talk " ferved it not ; and not be footh- here of a fort of people who are very wary *i ed into injuftice, by confider- of touching upon the magiftrate's duty, *' ation oi gain that might thence and tender of fhewing the- bounds of his " accrue to the fufFerer. Shall power, where I tell the magijirate that '^ we do evil, that good may come the power I aforibe tor him in reference to " ofit? There are a fort of peo- religion, is given him to brin^ men, not xo " pie who are very wary of touch- his own, but to the true religion; and " ing upon the magiftrate's duty, that he mifapplies it, when he indeavours . "and tender of fhewing the to promote a falfe religion by it, is, me^ *' bounds of his power, and the thinks, at leajl a- little unfeafdnable.. •* injuftice and ill confequences Nor am I any more concerned in what. " cf his mifapplying it ; at leaft, you fay of the magijirate s mifapplying his <* fo long as it is mifapplied in fa--' power in favour of a party. For as you ** vour of them, and their-'party. Mve not yet proved that his applying hisi ••I knQV» fowes- A THIRET LETTER FOR TOLERATION 26s ** I know not whether you arfe of power to the promoting the true religion, " their number j But this I am f which is all that I contend for J is anC- •' fure, you have the misfortune applying it ; fo much lefs can you prove it " here to fall into their miftake. /& &e mifepplying it in favour of a party. *' The magiftrate, you confefs, £w/ //6«/ Jincouragethe magiftrate in " may in this cafe mifapply, his punifhing men to. bring them to a falfe *' power : And inftead of repre- religion, (for that' is th£ punifliing ws *' fenting to him the injuftice of here Jpeai of J and (both him into inja{\iicc, *' it, and the account he muft by (hewing what thofe who fuffer un- *' give to l>is Sovereign one day of juftly fliall gain by it, when in the ver-y " this great truft put into his fame breath I tell him that by fopunijhingy *V hands, for the equal protection iS^" mifapplies his power, is a difcovery " of all his fubjedts, you pretend which I believe none but your felf could have " advantages which the fufferer made.' When- I fay that the magifirate ** may receive from it : And fo mifapplies his power by fo punijhingi I •* inftead of difheartning from, fuppoje all other men underjland me to fay, " you give incouragement to the that he fins in doing it, and lays himfelf *'. mifchief. Which, upon your open to divine vengeance by it. And can *' principle, joined to the natural he be incouraged to this, by hearing what " thirft in man after arbitrary others may g'a.iix by what (without repen.- power, may be carried to all tance) muji coji himfo dear i " manner of exorbitancy, with fome pretence of rights' might as much need to be put in. mind of impartial examination as other jpeiople. Audit might, whatever your men of art may allow^ be juftly ex- jeiSted A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION peded from you j who think It do deviation from the rules of arty to tell the fubjeds that they muft fubmit to the penalties laid on them, or elfe fail under thefword of the magiftrate : which how true foever, will hardly by any bbdy be found to be much more to your purpofe in this difcourfe, than it would hav6 been to have told the magiftrate of what ill confequence it Wduld be to him and his people, if he mifufed his power, and warned him to be cautious in the ufe of it. But not a word that way. Nay even where you mention the account he fliall give for fo doing, it is ftill to fatisfy the fiibje whst o.ther can fa well fuit him as the national ^ with which the cry and preferments go ; and where, it being, as you fay, frefuniMe that he ^ malkes i^bat jfois profefliosn upon .conviBion, and that he is in earneft, he is fure to be orthodox withouit ^e pains of examining, and has the law and government on his fide to make it good ;that he is in the right ? 'Bxjitfiducers, if they be tolerated, will be ready at hand, and diligent j and mo^ will .hearken to them. ;B^dm.ers furely have no ft«ice on their fide, tQ r^tafce people hearken. And if this be fo, there is a remedy at hanfl, better than force, if you and your friends will ufe it, which cannot but 'pre- vail i and that is, kt thp iminiflers of trudi be as diligent i and they bring- i ■'! ing #rvitb with them, truth fAvmts jmdeajy to ie imderjhod, as you fay vfh^t p, ^A i$ Mfi^^y ■t^ fo'hjation i^, cartnot but prevail. M^fidut^s are hearkened to, becaufe they teach opinions favourable 40 .men^s Ittfts. Let the magiftrate, as is hi^Siduty, d^iindser Ae practices which their liftfts WOU'I^ canry them to, and the advantage wiH be Ml t hav- ing on the wedding-garment, that /keeps men from being, bound hand and foot, and oaft into the dreadful and eternal prifon. You tell uSj Force has a prapsr efficacy to procure theinlightningef-t-heun- P. 16 derjiandmg, may with force urge fuch arguments, you wilU I think, grant. But you talk as if nobody could have Arguments proper andjicfficient to convince another, but he that was of your way, or your church. This in- deed is a new and very extraordinary difcovery, and fuch as your brethren, if you can convince them of it, will have reajbn to thank you for. Por if any one was ever by arguments and reafons brought off, or feduced from your church, to be a dilTehter, there were then, I think, reafons and arguments proper andfufficient to convince him. I will not name to you again Mr. Rey^ noldsy becaufe you have charity enough to queftian his fincerity. Though his leaving his country, friends, and acquaintance, may be prefumed as great a mark of his being convinced and in earneft, as it is for one to write for a. national religion in a country where it is uppermofl. I will not yet deny,, but that, in you, it may be pure zeal for the true religion, which you would have affifted vyith the magiftrate's force. And fince you feem fa much con- cerned for your fincerity in the argument, it muft be graaated you deferve the charafter of a well-meaning man, who own, your fincerity ia a way fb little ^advantageous to your judgment. ' 'Bvit'^Mx. Reynolds, in your opinion, was mifled by corrupt ends, or fe- Gular intereft ; what do you think of a prince [James II] now living ? Will you doubt his fincerity, or that he was convinced of the truth of the religion he profefi!ed, who ventured three crowns for it ? What do- you think of Mr. Chillingworth, when he left the church of England for the Romijh pro- feflSon ? Did he do it without being mmmiced that that was right I Or was^ he convinced with reafons and arguments, not proper or fi^cient to convince' him? But certainly this could not be true, hecaufej as you fay, p. 25, the- Scripture does not teach any thing of it. Or perhaps thofe that leave your communion do it always without being convinced, and only think they are convinced when they are not j or are eonvmced ■with arguments not proper and' fufficient to convince them. If no body can convince another, but he that has. truth on his fide, you do more honour to^ the " firji- andfecond Letter con- cerning 'toleration," than is for the ad^vantage of your caufe, when, you impute to them the increafe offeSis and herefies amongft us. And there are forae^ even of the church of England, have profefJed themfelves fo fullys, fatisfied by the reafons and arguments in the firft of them, that though I dare not be pofitive to you, whofe privilege it is to convince men that they^ are con- vinced ; yet I may fay, it is ^%prefumable they are conviinced, having owried it,, as it is prefumable that all that are conformifts are made fo.npon. reafbnan^ conviction. Th%, 270 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION p, 25 This, I fuppofc, may ferve for an anfwcr to your next words. That God in Ms juft jm^ment wiUfaad fucb as rMv<»ig,JkvngieluJion,i.^,fuch rtirfons and argfmenfs as wiU f retail with 7neni fo Mjfojed, to believe •a he, tistjt they may be dammed^, this ymi (■onfefs the Scripture "plmdy teaches us. But that there are anyfuch reafins or arguments m are proper andfx^iknt to cm'uince er fatisfy any, butfach refoiute and ob- durate Jinners, of the truth of fuch faljhood as will dejiroy themj is a psfition. which yow arejkre the Scripture Joth riot teach ns ; mnd wiich, you tell me, •when I have better cnnfiderdk^ yoa hope I wUl not undertake t@ meiintfim^ j/indyet if it, be mot maintainable, what \fay here is to no purple: for if there be no fuch reafam and arguments as here 'wej^reak tf, 'tis in vain to talk 'ofiht ^a^Jirate^s ufmgf^nce to make. men nan& but nefolute obdurate. fi^i^k^'S ever forfook or ftjrbore the coinamuiMaai of thc/Chianeh of 'E.nglavd^ -iftp&ft reafons and arguments ithiXfoti^ or convince them ; I fhall leave you to inr joy fo charitable an opiraion. . • iBut as to the ufefulnefe of fbrcie, yt>\ii way '^pf^ed, I fhall lay you 4owfi again the facme ai^ajraent I ufed before ; thtaigh in words lefs fitted fbr your way of reafoning on them, now I know your talent. H ithece -be any ^ffir scacy in force tro bring n:ien to any perfuafion, it will, your way applied, bring more men to error than to truth. Your way of isfing it is only ito pu- nifli men for not heing of the national religion; w^ichis the only way you do or can appty force, without a toleration. "Nonconffonaaity is the fauit that is puini&ed j which fasralt, wdien it^ceafes, ithepuniflbmentceafes, . Surt yset to make them confider, :is the end for which they are rpuniflied j hut whether it be or be not intended to make mentjonfider, it alters nothing in the cafe. Now I fay, that ifince all magiftraltes wQao -believe their reVig^n to be true, are as much obliged to .ufe force to bring their fubjecSs to it, as if it were true ; and fince moft of the national religions of the world ase er- roneous ; if farce made ufe tafjto .bring men to the national religion, by ipu- nifhing diflenters, have any efficacy. Jet it be what it vf'iW,4nSrect>emd,^t a -diflance-, if you jxteafe, it is hke to do twenty times imore harm than ^ppd ; becaufe of ithe ^national religions of the worid, to fpeak much within' com- pafs, there are above twenty wrong .for one that is jsgfet^ , "Indeed, could force be dirccfted to drive aHimendfadiiSerepsfly, who ase ne- gligent and backward in it, to ftidy, examine, and ictnej^^fr ^rioufly mattecs of religion, and fea^ch out the truth,; and if imen were, upon (their -ftu^y and exa/nination, permitted to follow what appears .to them to be )right ; you might have fome pretence fortforce, :asferviceable to truth in m^*ng men confiddr. Bat this is impoflible, but under a toleration. And 1 doubt whether, even there, force can he fo applied, as to make men con fider, and impartially examine what is triie in ihe p-afefled religions of the world, and to imbrace it. This at leafl is certain, that where punifhments purfuenien, like A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 271 like outlying deer, only to the pale of the national church ; and when once they are within that, leave them free there, and at eafe ; it can do no fervice to the true religion, even in a country where the national is the true. For the penalties ceafing as foon as men are got within the pale and communion of the church, they help not men at all againft that which you affign as the great hindrance to the true religion, and which therefore, in your opinion, makes force neceflary to aflift it. For there being no neceffity that men fhould leave either their vices or corruption, or fo much as their ignorance, to get within the pale of the church ; force, your way applied, ferves only to bring them, even in thfif few Chriftian and orthodox countries, to the profeffion, not to the know- ledge, belief or pradlice, of the true religion. lou fay corrupt nature inclines men from the true religion to falfe ones ^ and moderate force is requifite to make fuch men confider. But fuch men as, out of corrupt nature, and for their eafe and carnal pleafurcs, chufe art erroneous religion without confidering, will again, as foon as they can find their choice incommoded by thofe perialties, confult the fame corrupt na- ture and carnal appetites, and without confidering any thing further, con- form to that religion where they can beft enjoy themfelves. It is only the confcientious part of diffenters, fuch as diflTent not out of indulgence to cor- rupt nature, but out of perfuafion, who will not conform without con- fidering as they ought. And' therefore your argument from corrupt nature,, is out of doors. If moderate penalties ferve only to work on thofe who are led by corrupt nature, they are of no ufe but to fill the church with hypo- crites ; that is, to make thofe men worfe hypocrites than they were before, by a new adt of hypocrify, and to corrupt the manners of the reft of the church, by their converfe with thefe. And whether this be for the falva- tion of fouls, as is pretended, or for fome other end, that the priefts of alj religions have generally fo earneftly contended ,for it, I leave to be confi- dered. For as for thofe who diflent out of perfuafion, I fufpeft youf nio- derate penalties will have little elFedt upon them. For fuch men being awed by the fear of hell fire, if that fear will not make them confider better than they have done, moderate penalties will be too weak to work upon them. It is well if dragooning and martyring can do it. But you add, M^ it not he true neverthelefs, that force yc«ir way applied P. 26 mcr^ beferinceahle indirectly^ and at a dijiance, to bring men to imbrace the truth nzhich may fave them ^ which is all you are conc&rned here to make good. So that if it may poflibly happen that it fhould ever bring two men to imbrace the truth, you have gained your point, and overthrown toleration, by the nfefulnefs and necejity there is of force. For without being forced thefe two men would never have confidered:. which is more yet than you know^ unleis you are of his private council, who only can tell when the fcafon of grace is paft, and the time come that pr^ching, intreaty, inftrudiion and perfuafion fhall never after prevail upon a man. But whatever you are here' sanaerned to make good^ are you not alfo. concerned to remember what yo« %5 272 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATIOIST fay; where declaring againft the magiftrate's having a power to ufe what may any way, at any time, upon any perfon, by any accident, be ufeful P. 18 towards the promoting the true religion, you fay. Who fees not that how- ever fuch means might chance to hit right in fame few cafes, yet, upon the whole matter, they would certainly do a great deal more harm than good; and in all pleas (making ufe of my words) yor any thing becaufe of its ufefulnefs, it is not enough to fay that it may beferviceable, but it mujl be confdered, not only what it may, but what it is likely to produce j and the greater good or harm like to come from it, nught to determine the ufe of it ^ P. 26 ^°" proceed and tell me, that I, not content to fay that force your way applied, (i. e. " to bring men to imbrace the truth which muji fave them) may '• be ferviceable to bring tnen to imbrace falfhood which will deftroy them;" andfo w proper to do as much harm as good, (which feems ftrange enough ;) I add (to increafe the wonder J " that in your indirect way it is much more ** proper and likely to make men receive and imbrace error, than the truth : " and that, i. Becaufe men out of the right way are as apt, and I think I ** may fay apter, to ufe force than others ; which is doubtlefs an irrefragable- *' demonjiration, that force ufed by the magijirate to bring men to receive and *^ imbrace the truth which mujifave them, is much more proper and likely to *« make men receive error than the truth." And then you afk me, How we come to talk here of what men out of the right way are apt to do, to bring others into their, i. e. a wrong, way j where we are only inquiring, what may be done to bring men to the right way. For you muji put me in mind, you fay, that this is our quejiion, viz. Whether the magijirate has any\right to ufe force, to bring men to the true religion. Whether the magiftrate has a right to ufe force in matters of religion, as you more truly ftate it, p. 78, is the main queftion between us, I confefs. But the queftion here between us is about the ufefulnefs of force your way applied ; which being to punifh diffenters as diffenters, to make them confider, I (hewed would do more harm than good. And to this, you were here anfwering. Whereby, I fuppofe, it is plain that the queftion here is about the ufefulnefs of force, fo applied. And I doubt not but my readers, who are not concerned, when the queftion in debate will not ferve your turn, to have another fubftituted, will take this for a regular and natural way of arguing, viz. " That force, your way ap- " plied, is more proper and likely to make men imbrace error than the *' truth ; becaufe men out of the right way are as apt, I think I may fay " apter, to ufe force than pthers." You need not then afk as you do. How we come to talk here of men out of the right way. You fee how. If you do not, I know not what help there is for your eyes. And I muft content my- felf that any other reader that has eyes, will not mifs it. And I wonder that you fhould : fince you know I have on feveral occafions argued againft: the ufe of force in matters of religion upon a fuppofition, that if any one, then all magiftrates have a juft pretence and right to ufe it j which has ferved you in Tome places for matter of great reproof, and in others of iport and diverfion. But becaufe fo plain a thing as that was fo ftrange to you, that A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 27J that you thought it a ridiculous paradox to fay, " That for all magiftrates *' to fuppofe the religion they believed to be true, was ecjually juft and rea- " fonablej" and becaufe you took no notice of the words adjoined that proved it, viz. '• Unlefs we can imagine every where but in England, [or **' where the national religion is the true] men believe what at the fame " time they think to be a lie," I have taken the pains to prove it to you more at large in another place, and therefore fhall make bold to ufe it here as an argument againft force, viz. That if it have any efficacy, it wifl do more harm than good; '* Becaufe men out of the right way are as apt, or ** apter to ufe it :" and I fliall think it a good one till you have anfwer- ' ed it. It is a good and a fure way, and (hews a zeal to the caufe, flill to hold faft the conclufion, and whatever be in debate, return ftill to one's old pofi- tipn. I arguing againft what you fay for the ufe of force, viz. ThiLtJbrce A. p. 5 ufed not to- convince by its own proper efficacy, but only to make men conftder, might indireSily and at a dijiance do fome fervice towards the bringing men to imbrace the truth ; after other arguments againft it, I fay, that " whatever L. II, p, 7^ efficacy there is in force, your way applied, /. e. To punifh all, and none but, difTenters from the national church, makes againft you :" and the firft reafon I give for it, is in thefe words ; •* Becaufe men out of the right way, " are as-apt or apter to ufe force than others." Which is what you are here anfwering. And what can be done better to anfwer it, than to the words I have above cited, to fubjoin thefe following ? Now whereas our au-V. z6 thorfays, that penalties or force is abfolutely impertinent in this cafe, becaufe it is not proper to convince the mind; to which, you anfwer, that though force be not proper to convince the mind, yet. it is not abfolutely impertinent in this cafe, becaufe -it may however, do fome fervice towards the bringing men to imbrace the truth which mujifave them, by bringing them to confder thofe reafons and ar- guments which are proper to convince the mind; and which, without being ' forced, they would not confder. Here I tell you, *' No, but it is much more *' proper and likely to make men receive and imbrace error than truth ; «t becaufe men out of the right way are as apt, and perhaps apter, to. ufe *' force than others." • Which you tell me, is. as good a proof yon believe as the thing would admit : for otherwife, you fuppofe I would have given you a better. And thus you have certainly gained the caufe. For I having proved that force, your way applied, whatever efficacy it had, would do more harm than good, have not fufficiently proved that it cannot do fame fervice towards the bringing men to imbrace the truth ; and therefore it is not abfolutely impertinent. But fince you thinjk this not enough to. prove the ufe of force in matters of religion impertinent, I fliall farther {hew you that force, applied your way to make people confder, and {o to make them imbrace the truth, is impertinent. Your way is to lay penalties on men for nonconformity, as you fay, to make men confder : now here let me afk any one but you, whether it be not utterly impertinent fo to lay penalties on men, to make them cmjidcr, when ,N n they 274 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION they can avoid thafc penalties without confidering ? But becaofe it is not enough to prove force, your way applied, utterly mpertinentr I ihall ihew you in the next place, that were a law made to punifli not barely nonconfor- mity, hut nonconfideration, thofc penalties kid on not confidering, woald be utterly impertinent j becaufc it could never be proved that a man bad not confidered the argtaments offered hitti. And therefcwe all law-makers till yo«, in all their penal laws about religion, laid all their penalties upon not inibracing ; and it was againit that, that our aathor was arguing when be faid penalties, in this cafe, are abfolutdy impertinent ; becaufe tbey are not proper to convince the mind. For in that cafe, when penalties are laid on men for not imbracing, it is plain they are ufed as a means to make men imbrace; which, fince thofe who are carelefs in matters of religion can do vsdthout confidering, and thofe who are confcientious cannot do without con- : ' vidtion ; and fince penalties can in no wife convince -, this ufe of them is abfoliitely impertinent, and will always be fo till you can fhew a way hbw they can be ufed in religion, not as motives to imbrace, but as motives barely to make men confider. For if you panifh them on when they tell you they have confidered your arguments, but are not convinced by them> and you jxidge of their having not confidered by nothing but their not im- bracing, it is plain you ufe penalties inftead of arguments to convince them ; fince without convidion, thofe whom our author pl'eatte for, cannot ini- brace; and thofe who do imbrace without conviction, it is all one as if they did not imbrace at all, they being not one jot th& more in the way of fal- ration ', and io penalties are abfolutely impertinent. But inabracing in the lenfe of the law, and yours too, when you fay men have not cmjidereet as they ought as long as they reject, is nothing but outward conformity, or an outward profeffion of imbracing, wherewith the law is Satisfied, and upon which the penalties ceafe. Now penalties ufed to make men in this fenfe imbrace, are abfolutely impertinent to bring men to imbrace in earneft, or, as the author calls it, believe: becaufe an outward profeffion, which in, this cafe is the imroediaite end to which penalties are directed, and beyond which they do not reach, is no proper means to produce in men eonfidera- tion, conviction, or believing. What can be mov^ impertinent than to vex and difeafe people with the ufe of force, to no purpofe I and that force mufl needs be to no purpofe, which is fb applied as to leave the end for which it is pretended to be ufed, with- out the means which is acknowledged neceffary for its attainment. That this is fb in your way of ufing force, will eafily appear from your bypo- A. p.6toi2 thefis. You tell us at large in your ^' Argument conjiiered" that mens lufts hinder them from even impartial conjidevatim and examination of mat- ters in religion : and therefore force is neceflary to. remove this hindrance.. P. 6, % You tell us likewife at large in your Letter, that mens corrupt nature and. beloved lufls hinder them alfo from imbracing the true religion, and that force is neceffary likewife to remove this obflacle. Now in your way of ufing forcca wherein penalties are laid on men tiUi and.no longer than tjll, they A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATtON they are made outwardly to conform, . force is fo applied, that notwitli- ftanding the intention of the law-maker, kt it be what it will, neither the obftsfde to impartial examination, rifing from mens Itifls, nor the avcrfion to the imbracing the trae religfon, arifing from mens corrupt nature, can be removed : unlefs they can be removed without that, which you fuppofe ne- ceffary to their removal. For fince a man may conform, withoat being "Under the neceflity of impartial examining or imbracing on the one hand, or buffering tiie penalties on the other j it is unavoidable, that he fliould nei- ther impartially examine nor imbrace, if penalties are neceflary to make him do either j becaufe penalties, which are the neceflary remedies to remove thofe feindrances, were never applied to them ; and io thofe obftacles not being removed for want of their neceflary remedy, muft continue on to hin- der both examining and imbracing. For penalties cannot be ufed as a means to any end, or be applied to the procuring any a(9:ion to be done, which a man from his lufts or any other caufe, has an averfion to, but by putting them as it were in one fcale as a counter-balance to that averfion, and the zBaxm in the other fcale, and putting a man under the neceffity of chufing the one or the other : where that is not done, the penalty may be avoided* the averfion or obftacle hath nothing to remove it, and fo the adtion muft remain undone. So that if penalties be neceffary to make men impartially examine and really imbrace ; if penalties are not fo laid on men as to make the alternative to be either fuffering the penalties or conforming, it is im* poffibie that men, who without penalties would not impartially examine or redly imbrace the true religion, fliouid ever do either ; and then I be* feech you confider whether penalties, your way applied, be impertinent or no. The neceflity of penalties is only where there is fome inclination or byafs in a man, whencefoever ariiing, that keeps him from doing fomething in his power, which he cannot be brought to without the inconveniences of fome penal inflidiion. The efficacy of penalties lies in this, that the in- convenience to be fuffered by the penalties over-balance the byafs or inch* nation which leans the man the other wayj and fo removes the obftaclej and the applioation of this remedy lies only in putting a man under the ne- ceflary choice either of doing the adion, or fuffering the penalty : ib that in whatever cafe a man has not been put under that neceffity, there penalties have never been applied to the procuring that adtion : for the obftacle or averfion to it, has never had its necefl^ary remedy. Perhaps you will fay it is not abfolutely impertinent, becaufe it may poffi-* bly do fome fervie impertinent to be ufed to that purpofe. That your way of ufing force in matters of religion, even in a couatry where the magiftrate is of the - true religion, is abfolutely impertinent. ; I fliall further ftiew you from your own pofition^ Here ig the entrance give me leave toobferve to you, that you confound two things very different, viz. Your v/ay of applying force, and the end for which you pretend you' ufe it. And this perhaps may be it which contri- butes to caft fehat mift about your eyes, that you always return to the fame 1*. ^6 place, and ftick to the fame grofs miftake. For here you fay, Force, your VTzy applied, i. e. to bring men ta imbraee the truth ivMch muft Jave them : but, Sir, to bring men to imbrace the truth, is not your nioay of applying ioxco,, but the end for which you pretend it is applied. Your nioay is to punifti men, as you fay, moderately for being diftenters from the national religion j this i^ your way of lifing force. Now if in this way of ufing it, force does fer- vice merely by accident, you will then, I fuppofe, allow it to be abfolutely |>. 17 impertinent. For you fay, If by doing fervice 1^ accident, I mean doing it butfeldom, and hejide the intention of the agent, yon affiire me, that it is not the thing you mean when joufiy force may indire^ly, and at a dijiar^ce, dofome fervice: For in that ufe of ford, 'whiehyovi defend, ;t he ejfeSl is both intended by him that ufes it, and 'withal, you doubt not. fo often, attain d, as abundantly to manif^ft the ufefulnefs of it.. Whereby it is plain the two marks, whereby you diftinguiftied your indireSl and at a ^j/^<2«c^ ufefulnefs, from that which is by accident, are that, that by accident does fervice but' feldom^ and befide the intention of the agents but yours the contrary. Ibid, Fij-ft, as to the intention, you tell us, in. the- ufe of for c£, which, you.dk- fend, the eff'eSl is intended by him that ufes it ; that is, thofe who made laws to puniih nOnconfoJmifts, defigned thofe penalties to.make all rpen, under their power, eanfder fo as to be convinced of, and. imbrace the truths that fbouldfave them. ' If one fliould aflcyou how you knew it to be their intention* can you fay, they ever told you fo ? If they. -did not, then fo far you and J know their intentions alike. Did they ever. fay foJn. thofe laws ? nor that neither, Thofe verfedthen in the interpretation of laws, will tell you no^- thing can be known to -be the intention of the law-makers in any Jaw, of m\kv:h tke law is wholly filent :. that way, then ypii qaimptJmojv if to haya beei^ A THIRD LETTER. FOR TOLERATION what they have exprefled in theffe words. And to the end that ■Uniformity in the public ijuorjhip of God (which is fa much defredj may be fpeedily effeSied; which was driven -with fach'fpeed, that if all concerned had opportunity to get and pe- rufe the then eftablifhed Uturgy, it is certain they had not over-much time- ferioufly and deliberately to conlider of all the parts of it before the. day fet for the ufe of it. - , But you think, they ought to have intended, and therefore they did": and I think they neither ought, nor could, in making thofe laws, intend" f& lanprailicable a thing-; and therefore they did not. Which being as certain a way of knowledge as yours, if you know it by that way ; it is poffible you' and I may at the fame time know contraries. But you know it, by thtir hofoin^ provided fufficient means of injirustienfot^ all under their care in the true religion j of tKisJiifficient means, \fe have fbme- thing to fay in another place. Penalties laid exprefsly on one fauk; have na evidence that they were defigned to mend another, though there are fuffi- cient means provided of mending it, if men would make a fufficient ufe of themj unlefs thofe two faults are f©' connecfted, a-s one cannot be mended without the other. Now if men cannot conform', 'without io ^onfdering as- tobeconvmcedof, and imbrace the truth that muft fave them ^ you may knoW' that penalties laid on nonconformity, were intended to make men fo conlider : but if men may conform, without fo confidering, one cannot know nor con- clude thofe penalties were intended to make men fo confider, whatever provi- fion there is made of means qf injiruction. But you wHl fay, it is- evident that penalties on nonconformifts, were in- tended to-make them ufe thefe means of inftrudlion, becaufe they are intended for the bringing nien- to church, the place of inftrudtion. That they are in- tended to hnng men to church, the place of preaching, that I grant; but that thofe penalties that are laid on^ men, for not coming to ch-urch, can be known thereby to be intended to make men fo €onfiSr, as to hQccmvinced^ndt' imbrace the true religion, that I- deny : and it is utterly impoffible it ftiould befo> if what you lay be true, w.bereyou tell us-. That the r/tagiflrates\Con~'^,%<^ eern thenfehes^for compliance or conformity, only as- the fruit of their tonvi&ion. If therefoi-e the magifirates are concerned for mens conformity, mly asthefruii- if their conviction, and coming Jto church. be that conformity; coming to church cannot be intended as a means of their convsidlion : unlefs it be in- tended th^y {hould be convinced, before- they are convincedi ■ But to fhew yo% that you cannot pretend the penalty of laws for confor- ]aaity» to proceed from a care of .the foulsof ^// under the magiftrate's power,. iSsA fo to be iMended to make them aJL conixder»., in. any. fenfe t. Can . yau, or. anp a.78 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION any one foiow, pr fypppfe, that penalties wliicli ire lai4 by the law on non- copfpfmify, ^ are intended ito make all men confidgf ; wfeefp It i« kfjown that a, gr44t nuinber, «n4er the .«n«gii^fa*e'« power, are (Ji^enfed with, and pri- vileged froHj thpfe penalties ? How cnaoy, omittiag th^ Jews, are there ; for exanjpte, in the kiag of England'^ dominions, vrnder his care aod power, of the WalkoHy «n4 Freneh ehyrch j to whom force is never applied, a»d they live in feourity from it ? How many Pagsjis are there in the Piaiita- tioHS, fft?i«y whereof born in his dominions, of whom there was aever any care taken, that they &ouM fo much as coime to church, or be in the leaft inftrv&ed in the CbrilUan fdigion ? A»d yet moft we believe, or can you pretend, that the Riagiftrate's ufe' of force, ^aipft nonconfofmijfts, is to make all his fubjefts confider, fo as^ to be convincd of, and imbrate the trUtb !• that muft fm>e them f If yoij fay, in your way you mean no fwch indsJ^enee : I anfwer, the Tqueftipn is not of yows, but the magiftrate's intention; though what your intention is, who would have the want of cdafideratiofl, or knowledge, in conformifls, exempt from force, is viiible enough. . Again, Thofe penalties cannot be fuppofed, to be intended to make men €Qnfidef 3 which are laid on thofe, who have, or may have already confidered : and iUch you muft gf^fit to be the penalties Uid in Englandt on noneonfor- ipifts ; unlefs you will deny, thftt any nonconforjaajft h^, or c%.n confider, fa as to bf convinced, or believe, and imbrace the truth that mujifave him. So that you cannot vouch the intention of the roagiftrMe, where his laws &y neihing ; mmh. lefs affirm, that force is intended to produce a certain ead in «// his fubje^,s, which is not applied to them all, and is applied to fome who have attained that end already : unlefs you have a priyikgs to affirm, agaipft all appearance, whatfoever may ferve your "caufe. But to learn fome j»ode-» ration in this, I fhall fend you to my Pagims and Mohammedans, For what- ever charitable wifhes magiftrates may Sometimes have in their thoughts, which I meddle not with j no body can fay, that in making the laws, or in the ufe of force, we are fpeakiflg of, they intended to make men confider and examine, fo as to be con'uinced of and heartily to imbrace the truth that muji. fxve them, but he that gives himfelf the liberty to fay any thing. The fer-vice that force does, indireSlly, and at a diftance; you tell us in the P, 18 following page, is to make people afply themf elves to the ufe of thofe means, . and helps, which are proper to make them what they are defigmd to be. In the cafe before us, What are men defigned to be ? Holy believers of the Oofpel in this world, without which no falvation, no feeing of God in the next. Let us fee now, whether force, your way applied, can be fuited to fiaeh a de- sign, and fo intended for that end.- p. 64 You hold. That all out of the national church, where the religion of the national church is true, fhould bepunifhed, and ought to have force u&d to them : and again, you grant that thofe who are in the communion of the national church, ought not to be puniflied, or be under the ftroke of force ; nor indeed in your way can they. If now the effeSi be to prevail with men, to confider ai they oughts fo that they may became what they are defigned. to be: liovv A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ho^w can any one think, that you, and they who ufe force thus, intend, in the ufe of W, that men fhould really be Chriftians, both in perfuafion and pfa'dfeice, without which there is no falvation ; if they leave off force before tJiey have attained that effeSi 1 Or how can it be imagined, that they intend any thing but conformity by their tffe of force, if they leave off the ufe of it as foon as men conforna ? unlefs you will fay that an outward conformity to the national church, whofe religion is the trup religion, is fach an im- bracing of the truth as is fufficient to falvation : Or that an outward profef- iion of the Chriftian religion is the fame with being really a Chriftian ; which poffibly you will not be very forward to do, when you recoiled: what you meet with in the fcrmonS, and printed difcourfes, of divines of the charch of England, concerning the ignorance and, irreligron of conformifts themfelves. For penalties can never be thought, by any one, but he that can think againfl: common fenfe, and what he pleafes, to be intended for any end ; which by that conftrtution, and law whereby" they are impofed^ . are to ceafe before that eiid be attained. And will you fay, that all whoare conformable, have fa well conjidered, that they believe, and heartily imbface the truths of the Gfofpel, that muft ftwe them : when perhaps it will be found that a great many conformifts do not fo mach as undcrftand theia ? But the ignorance or irreligioufnefs to be found amoflgft conformifts, which yoar way of talking forces me in fome places to take notice of, let me here tell you once for all, I lay not the blame of upon conformityy but upon yoar ufe of force to make men conform. For whatever the religion be, true or falfe, it is natural for force, and penalty, fo applied, to bring the irreligious,, and thofe who' are carclefs and unconcerned for the true, into the national prs(fefEon : but whether it be fitter for fuch to be kept ont, rather than by force to be driven into the communion of any church, and owned as menti- bers of it, thofe who have a due care and refpedt for truly religious and pious, conformifts, were beft confider. But farther, if, as you fay, the cwpofition to the true religion lies only ift mens lufls, it having light ztidi Jlreffigth enough, were it not for that, to prevail : and it is upon that account only that force is necejfary, there is no neeeflity at all to ufe force on men, only till they conform, and no far- ther : fince I think you will not deny, but that the corruption of human na- ture is as great in conformifts as in nonconformifts ; in the profeffors of, asr in the diflenters from, the national religion. And therefore either force was. not necef!ary before, or elfe it is necelfary flill, after men are conformifts i unlefs you will fay, that it is harder for a man to be a profeffor, than ai Ghriffeian indeed : and that the true religion, by its own light andiJireAg.th„ can, without the help of force, prevail over a man's lufts, and the corrup- tion of his nature j but it has need of the help of force, to make hfm a con- formift, and an outward profeffor. And fo much for the e£eB, which is m-^ tended by him that ujes it in that ufe of force which you defend. . The other argument you bring to fhew, that your indireSi, and at at iijiance^ uftfuinefi of »force your way applied^, is not by accident,, is th.tfreqfi£itt ■ Jticcefs A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION Jhccefs of It. Which I think is not the true mark of what is not by aed** dent : , For an effedt may not be by accident, though it has never been pro- duced but once j and is certainly as little by accident the firil time, as when it has been produced a Jthoufand times. That then, by which any thing is excufed from being by accident, is not the frequency of the event, but that whereon the frequency of the event depends, when frequent trials are made ; and that is the proper, natural, diredt efficacy of the caufe or means, which produces the effedt. As in the cafe before us, penalties are the caufe or means ufed to produce an end ; the proper and immediate efFed: of penalties, is to produce fome pain or inconvenience ; and the natural efFe<3; of that, is to. make a man, who naturally flies from all pain or inconveni- ence, to indeavour to avoid it j whereby it naturally and dire^ly works upon the will of man, by propofing to him this unavoidable choice of doing fome adion, or induring the pain or inconvenience of the penalty annexed to its omiffion^ When the pain of doing the adtion is outweighed in the fejife of him that lies under the penalty, the pain, that by the law is annexed to the omiffion, operates upon his w^ill, as naturally, as thirteen ounces in one fcale, laid againft twelve ounces in the other, incline the balance, and bring it down on that fide. . And this is by a diredt and natural efficacy^ wherein there is nothing of chance. X>et us fee this, how far this will go in your indireSi, and at a di/iancct ufefulnefs. In your method, the adtion you propofe to be done, is confid^r- ingt or a fevere and impartial examining matters of religion, which you tell us, men by their great negligence or averfion are kept from doing. What now is a proper means to produce this ? Penalties, without nvhich, you tell us, it will not be done. How now is it applied in your method ? Confor- mity, and mens negledt or averfion to it, is laid in one fcalei and the pe- nalty joined to theomiflion of it, laid in the other ; and in this cafe, if the inconvenience of the penalty overweighs the pains of, or averfion to con- formity, it does by adiredt and natural efficacy produce conformity : But if it produces a fevere and impartial examination, that is merely by accident; becaufe the inconvenience of the penalty is not laid againft mens averfion or backwardnefs to examine impartially, as a counter-balance to that, but againft their averfion or backwardnefs to conform ; and fo whatever it does, indireSlly, and at a dijlance, it is certain its making xi\tn fever ely and. impar- tially examine, if ever that happens, is as much by accident, as it would be by accident, if a piece of lead laid in one fcale as a counterpoife to fea- thers in the oppofite fcale, fhould move or weigh down gold that was put in the fcale of another pair of balances, which had no counterpoife laid againft it. Unlefs you will fay there is a necefl"ary connexion between con- formity, and a fevere and impartial examination. But you will fay, perhaps, that though it be not poffible that penalties fhould produce examination but by mere accident, becaufe examination has no neceffary connection with conformity, or the profeffion of any religion ; yet fince there are fome who will not take up any profeflion without Sl fevere and A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 28t andimpar^tml examination^ penalties for nonconformity will, by a direct and natural efficacy, produce examination in all fuch. To which I anfwer. That thofe are, if we may believe what you fa:y, fo very few, that this your A. p. 6, etcy remedy, which you put into the magiftrate's hands to bring all his.fubje£ts tQiConfider and examine, will not work upon one in a thoufand; nay, it can work on none at all, to make them feverely and impartially exa- mine, but merely hy accident. For if they are men, 'whom a flight and partial examination, which upon your principles you muft fay, fufficed to make nonconformifts, a flight and partial examination will as well ferve to make them conformifts ; and fo penalties kid on them to make them con- form, can only by accident produce 2ifevere and impartial examination, in fuch men, who can take up the profeffion of any religion without zfemere qnd impartial examinationt no more than it can otherwife than hy accident," produce any examination in thofe whoi without any examination/ can tak-e up the profefllon of any religion. - And in thofe very few, who take not up the profeflion of any religion without 2ifevere and impartial examination, that penalties can do any fervice,' to bring them either to the truth that mujifave them, or fo much as to out- ward conformity, but merely by accident, that alfo is evident. Becaufe all fuch in a country, where they diflent from the national religion, mufl: necef- farily have feverely and impartially examined already, or elfe you deftroy the fuppofition this argument is built on, viz. That they are men who do fe- verely and impartially examine before they chufe. And if you lay, or continue your penalties on men, that have fo examined, it is plain you «/? ' ihQVCi injiead of reafons and arguments: in which ufe of them, you confefs they have wo proper efficacy, and therefore if they do any fervice, it is merely by accident. •But now let us fee xhtfuccefs you boaft of, and for that you tell us, that you doubt not but it iB'fo often attained, as abundantly to manifeji the ufeful-?. i-^ nefs of it. You fpeak here of it, as a thing tried, and fo known, that you doubt not. Pray tell us where your moderate, for great ones you acknow- ledge to do harm, and to be ufelefs, penalties have been ufed, with fuch fuccefs, that we may be pafl: doubt too. If you can fhew no fuch place, , do you not vouch experience where you have none ? and fliew a willingnefs not to doubtj where you have no afllirance ? In all countries, where any force is ufed to bring men to the profeflion of the national religion, and to outward conformity, it is not to be doubted, but that force joining with their natural corruption, in bringing them into the way of preferment, countenance, proteiftion, eafe and impunity, fliould eafily draw in all the loofe and carelefs in matters of religion, which are every where the far greater number : But is it thofe you count upon, and will you produce them as examples of what force has done to make men confder, Jiudy, and im- brace the true religion ? Did the penalties laid on nonconformity make you conjider, fo as to Jiudy, be convinced, and imbrace the true religion ? Or' caaa you give an inftance of any one, in whom it produced this effedt ? If you cannot, you will have fome reafon to doubt of what you have faid, and O o not ^% A TillRD LETTER FOR TOLETRATrON liot tdb^ ibreoftfideoit that tfoe effe nottong fince, gpeatef feverkies were itfed than y©ui pretend to apipiare oil Were there not, for all that* great numbers of feverai profeffions" £ke^ owt, who, by your rule, oi^e ndtr to have your modera**' penalties tried upon them ? And can you think lefs degreraof force can wofky jtnd etfteav as you lay* pi'evai^ where ^easer couJd not ? But perkaEps they in%h£ pre- vail on many o£ thofe to return, who* having beer* bfoti^t into ^fe com- munion of the cbarch by formed penal laws, batre now vpptm. the relaxe^cm left it again, A manifeft demionftration^ is it not ? That their cimi^liimce- was the fruit of their conviBion; a^d^ that the magiftrate. was eansernedfor. thiir csmpliancs OTtfy as the fruit of their cgttviBiovi: when they, as fooita^ any relaxation of tbofe laws fOok off the penalties, left again the commu- nion of the national church ? For the kjfenimgtke mmbrr sf Confirm^f, is, I fuppofd, one of tbofe things which you fay you« eyei carrmt bt^^at this time ; and which you, with concern, impute to the kte refaxMian. A plain evidence bow prefumaMe it is, even in your own opimont*. that tbofe who conform do it upon real conviBion. To Goncladey Thefe proofs, though I do hot pretend tobrmg as good as the thing will admit. Will ferve my tufn tofhew, that force is in^ettioeMj' fince by your own confeflion it has fto diredl efficacy to convince men, a^ hy its being indirsB and at a Sftmce Ts£civi, is not at alt diftingui&ed fcoim being barely fo byi accident : fince you can neither prove it to be intended; for that end, nor frequently to fucceed. Which are the two marks wheceby you- put a diiferencG between indireB, and at a difian.ce, and by accident : This, I fay, is enough to fhew what the author faid, is true, that th© ufe of force is wholly- impertinent. Which, whatever others do, you upoa ano-i ther reafon, muft be forced to allow. Youprefefs your felf of the church of England, and if I may guefs, are fo far of it, as. to- have fubfcribed the XXXIX Articles, which if you have done, and affenfeed to what you fubfcribed, you muft neceflarily allow that- all force, ufed for the bringing men to the true religion, \%abJohtely imper- tinent ; for that muft be abfolutely. impertinent to be ufed as a means^ wbi€h= can contribute nothing at all to the end for which it is ufed. The end here, is fe) make a man a true Chriftian, that he may be faved ; and he is then, and then w\j, a. true Chriftian, and in the way of falvatioo^ when he believes> and wifk A THIRD LjETTER FOR TOi^ZKAfiPH ^?| mth fi^cewty obey? the O^ifpel: . 6y th^thif-tee#4^.iaR^df ef tkz-chwerfyne«t to n(e force to bring a ntia-n ip be trj*ly a Chiriftigi?. Tp hjqajr.^^d ^nfi^, is in mens ppw^, y^u wJL$ fay, a©id to thfkt force ipiay be ;perrtinent ; I gra^nt to make ic^pti heftr, bptnot to make tb^m €pnjider in yovir fenfe, which -you tflll us, -is to confer fs as U imbrace; if you mean by imbracing any thing but outward Conformity; And that aocordiiing to your article, <;ontriibutes nothing ip the attaining of gracej becaufe without grace^ your article fays it is a fin j and to cpnfqrHi tQ|, and outwardly profefs a religion which a .i^ian dpes W>t underftand &nd heartily -^liftv^e;, every -q^kj, I think, judges tp h^e a^/^, and no iit mean? t® procufte the^raee of God. But you itfill us, %haiG(ddmisshisgrMet becaufe your way fets no other bounds to confidering fhort of complying-. And then I afk, " What difference there is between punifhing you to bring* " you to mafs, or punifhing you to confider thofe reafons and arguments " which are proper and fufficient to convince you that you ought to go to " mafs ?" To which- you reply. That it is a qnejiion yow Jhall then fhini your Jelf obliged to anfwer, when I have 'produced thofe reafons and arguments that are proper and fufficient to convince men that they ought to go to mafs. Where- as, the obje my opi- nion, the fuppofitiori of truth authorizes the ^magiftrate to ufe the fame- means to bring men to it, as if it were true, my argument will hold good^ without taking all to be true which ibme men fuppofe true. According;to- Shiffi .ZU A THIRD LETfEU FOR TOLERAlriOr* this anfwer of yows, to lupptsfe or 1>elieve his ttSigsofl tbe trtte, js nfel enoiugfe to sxxthorvse the magifeate to »ufc force ; he ftJiad know, 2- €. be i'ti- ialiibly certaiu,' that his is the t4*ue religion. We will for once fuppofe yo« oar magiftratc, with force 'protnoting our aationai reltg'ion. I will not aflc 3tou, whether you know that ail required of >p®(nfonaMfts, is necc^ty to fel- Mation : But williuppofe one of my Paj2[ans aiking you, whether you fcflow Chriiftianity to fee the tivse TeJigion ? If you Ctny, Ves, he wi!l a& yots how yosi know it ? aad oo doubt, but y&a. will give the aniwer, wher-eiby our Saviour pjioved his miflion, join v, 2^, that f^ i&orks ^Mc^ our Saviour did har wkneji of him, t^at the father fent him. The miracles that Chrift 4id, are a proof of his being iferrt from -God, and -fo hi« rdi^on the true religions But then you will he alked again, Whether you Know that %& ^id thafe miracles, as well as tbofe wh© faw them done ? If you anlwer^ Yes i then it is plain that miracles are not yet withdrawn, hut do ^rll ac- company the Chriftiati religion with all the efficacy a*id evidence, "fliat they had upon the eye-witwefles of them, and then upon yonr own grounds, there will be no neceflity of the magiflratUy thejce is, to hit that }«ft degree of force j which according to yoor hypothefisy mtift be neither fo niBch as todabarnt, nor fo little as to be ineffe^ual i for you your felf cannot determine it,, makes it ufefitlnef* yet more uncertain and ^cidental. And after all, let its d&racy to work jipon mens minds be what it will, great oir little, it being fore to be im- ploded ten, or pofiiblyy a hundred times to bring men X.o error, for once that it i& imiployed to bring tti^n to the truth ; and where it chances to be im?- ployed. Off the fide of truth, it being liable to make a hundred, or perhaps a. thottfand outward conformjfts» for one trae and fincere convert ; I leave- it alio to be judged what ufefulnds it is like to be of. ,To {hew the ufefulnefs of force, your way applied, I faid, " Where ths *' la>w pttnifhed diffenters. without tellinig them it ia to mrake them confider,, "they may through ignorance and overfigbt neglect to do it." Yottr smfwer is, jB«? iehere the lata frimdes fitff^ient means of inJiruSiion far aU, P- 28 tf-f 'il^ell as punijhntent for MJf'enters, it is J& plain to all concerned, that the pimijhmeni is intend to make them cmfider, that you fee no danger rf mens neghSUng to do it, fhrdngh- ignoranei or ofmrfight. 1 hope you mean by con- fider, fo %& confider as not only to-imbrace in an outward profeffion., for then all you fay is but a poor fallacy, for fach a confidering amounts to no more but bare outward conformity ; but fo to confider., '^udy and examine matters of religion, as really toimbrace, what one is convinced to be the true, with faith and obedieaee. If it be fo plain and eafy to underftanni, that a laW,, that fpeaks- nothing €«f it, fhouki yet be intended to make men con^r,. fearch and fiudyy to iin^; out the trvsth that mvfifofoe them ; I wifh you had fhewed us this plainnefs. For I confefe many of all degrees, that I have purpofely affeed about it, did not ever fee, or- fo much as dream, that the- a£k of uniformity, or againft conventicles, or the penaltieg in either of them, were ever intended to make men ^rioufly ftudy religion, and make it theif bufinefs to find the truth which muf fane them\ but bacrcly to make men con~ form. Fut perha-p* you have met with handicrafts-men, and country-far- mers, maid fervants, and day-labourers, who have quicker underftandings,, and reqifon, better about the intention of the kw, for thefe as well as othera are; cmcermd. If you have not, it is to be feared, your faying //wya//<3/», that yau fee na danger of mens negkSiing to do it, through ignorance or overfight,. is more for its ferving your purpofc, than from any experknce you have,, that it is fo. When you will inquire into this matter, you will', I guefs, find the people fo ignorant amidft that great plainnefs you fpeak of, that not one of twenty oi any degree, amongft conformifts, or noneonformifts,, eveu under=» iiood the penahy of twelve pence a Sunday, or any other of our penal laws againd nonconformity,- to be intended to'fet men upon fludying the true re-^ ligion, and impartially examining what is necefl'ary to falvationk. And if youf wauld dome to Hudibrass decifion,. I believe he would have a good wagear A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATIOISf of it, who fliould 'give you a guinea for each one who had thought fo, and receive but a fhilling for every one who had not. Indeed you do not fay, it is plain every-where, but only where the law provides fufficient means of inJiruBionfor all, as well as punijhments for dijj'enters. From whence, I think it will follow, that that contributes nothing to make it plain, or elfe that the law has not provided fufficient means of inflrudtion in England, where fo very few find this to be fo plain. If by this fufficient provifion of means of inJlruSlion for all ; you mean, perfons maintained at the public charge to preach, and officiate in the public exercife of the national religion ; I fup- fofe you needed not this reftridlion, there being i&w places which have an eftablithed national religion, where there is not fuch^ means of inJlruSiion provided: if you intend any other means of inJlruSiion, I know none the law has provided in England but the XXXIX Articles, the Liturgy, and the Scripture, and how either of them by it felf, or thefe altogether, with a national clergy, make it plain, that the penalties laid on nonconformity, are intended to make men conjider, Jludy, and impartially examine matters of religion, you would do well to fhew. For magiftrates ufually know, and therefore make their laws accordingly, that the people feldom carry either their interpretation or practice beyond what the exprefs letter of the law requires of them. You would do well alfo to fhew, that a fufficient pro- vifion of means of inftrudtion, cannot but be underftood to require an ef- fed:ual ufe-of them, which the law that makes that provifion fays nothing of. But on the contrary,^ contents it felf with fomething very fhort of it : For conformity or comjng to church, is at leaft as far from confidering, Jludying and impartially examining matters of religion, fo as to imbrace the truth upon conviction and with an obedient heart, as being prefent at a dif- courfe concerning mathematics, and ftudying mathematics, fo as to become a knowing mathematician, are different one from the other. People generally think 'they have done their duties abundantly, if they have been at church, whether they mind any thing done there or no : This they call ferving of God, as if it were their whole duty ; fo backward are they to anderfland more, though it be plain the law of God exprefly re- quii-es more. But that they have fully fatisfied the law of the land, no body doubts ; nor is it eafy to anfwer what was replied to me on this occa- fionj viz. If the magiflrate intended zny thing more in thofe laws but con- formity, would he not have faid it ? To which let me add, if the magi- ftrate intended conformity as the fruit of conviSiion, would he not have taken feme care to have them inflruded before they conformed, and examined when they did ? but it is prefumable their ignorance, corruption and lufls, all drop off in the church-porch, and that they become perfedtly good- Chriflians as foon as they have taken their feats in the church. If there be any whom your example or writing hath infpired with acute- ijefs enough to find out this ; I fufpeft the vulgar who have fcarce time and thought enough to make inferences from the law, which fcarce one of ten cf them ever fo much as reads, or perhaps underftands when read, are fliH, and A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ^^9- and will be ignorant of it : And thofe who have/the time and abHities to argue about it, will find regfon to think that thofe penalties were not ?>?/^«i- t^ to make men examine the do(5trine and ceremonies of religion j fince thofe who fhould examine, are prohibited by thofe very kws, to follow their own judgments, which is the very end and ufe of examination, if they at all differ from the religion eftablifhed by law. Nor can it appear fo plain to all concerned, that the punijhment is intended to make them conjider and examine, when they fee the punifhments you fay are to make people conjider, (pare thofe who confider and examine matters of religion, as little as any of the moft ignorant and carelefs diifenters. To my faying, " Some diflenters may have confidered already, and then " force imployed upon them muft needs be ufelefs ; unlefs you can think it " ufeful to punilh a man to make him do that which he has done already." You reply, No man who rejeSls truth necejfary to his fahation, has confidered?, 28 already as he ought to confider. The words as he ought, are not, as I take it in the queilion : and fb your anfwer is. No man who rejeSts the truth neceffary to his falvation, hath confidered, ftudied or examined matters of religion. But we will let that go : and yet with that allowance, your aniwer will be no- thing to the purpofe, unlefs you will dare to fay, that all diflenters rejedt truth neceflary to falvation. For without that fuppofition, that all diffen- ters rejeSl truth necejfary to fahation, the argument and anfyver will ftand thus. It may be ufelefs to punifh all diflfenters to make them confider, be^ caufe forne of them may have confidered already. To which, the anfwer is. Yes, fome of them may have confidered already, but thofe who reje(fl truth neceflary to their falvation, have not confidered as they ought. I faid, " The greateft part of mankind, being not able to difcern betwixt L. H, p. 79 *.' truth and falfhood, that depends upon long and many proofs, and remote ' " confequences ; nor having ability enough to difcover the falfe grounds, " and refifl: the captious and fallacious arguments of learned men verfed in " controverfies, are fo much more expofed, by the force, which is ufed to " make them hearken to the information and inftrudtion of men appointed *' to it by the magiflrrate, or thofe of his religion, to be led into falfhood " and error, than .they are likely this way to be brought to imbrace the " truth which mufl: fave them j by how much the national religions of the *' world are, beyond comparifon, more of them falfe or erroneous, than " fuch as have God for their author, and truth for their fl:andard." You reply, If the firfi part of this be true, then an infallible guide, and implicit P. 29 j-'aith, are more neceffary than ever you thought them. Whether you conclude from thence or no, that then there will be a neceffity of an infallible guide, and an implicit faith, it is neverthelefs true, that the greatefl: part of men are unable to difcern, as 1 faid, between truth and falfhood depending, upon long and many proofs, etc. But whether that will make an infallible guide necefl"ary or no, impofition in matters of religion certainly will : fince there can be nothing more abfurd imaginable, than that a man fliould take upon him to impofe on others in matters of their eternal concernment, without P p being, A THfRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION bein|', or fo mvtch as-' jipeteHding «o be iftfklMk: for cdoar it with the name of cenfidertng^&s maeh as you pleafe, as long as it is to make men cenfider at they ought', and eor0iering as they eu^ht, is fo to eonfider, as torm^ace-^ the ufing of force to make men emfidtr, and the ufing of foree \o make them mbrace afty dodtrine or opihiofl, is th« feme thing : and to {hew a difference betwixt impofing an opinion, and ufing force to make it be imbraced, would require iueh a piece of fubtilty, as I heard Jately from a learned man out of the puTpiti who told ««, that though two things, he named, were all one, yet for diftin<9:ion's fake he \^e«M divide themi. Your reafon for the ne- ceffity of an infallible guide, is, For if the greatefi part of mankind be not able to difcern betwixt truth andfaljhsod^ in matters concerning their falvation (as I niuji mean ifij^ak to the purpofe) their conation niuji needs be^ery ha- zardous, if they have' not fome guide or Judge, to tjohofe deternhnatioat and direc- tion they may fecurely rejign themfeives. And therefore they mult refign themfelves to the determination and SreBion of the civil magiflrate, or be pu- nifbed. Here it is like you will have fomething again tohy to my madefy and edftfcience, for imputing to you what you no where lay. I grant it, in direct words J but in eiFedt as plainly as may be. The magiftrafe may impole Jmnd creeds and decent ceremonies, i. t. fuch as he jhinks fit, for what is found and decent he I hope muft be judge ; and if he be judge of what is^undand decent, it amounts to no more but what he thinks fit : and if it be not what he thinks fit, why is one ceremony preferred to another ? Why one 'dpdtrine of the Scripture put into the Creed and Articles, and another as found left out ? They are truths necejfary tofaivation. We fliall fee that in good time : here only I afk. Does the magiftrate only believe them to be truflis and ce- remonies neeeffary to falvation, or does he certainly know.them tobe fb ? If you fay he only believes them to be fo,^ and that that is enough to authorize bi-m to impofe them, you, by your own confefiion, authorize magiftrates to impofe what they think neceifery for the lalvation of their fubjefts fouls ; and fo the king of France djd what he was obliged to, when be fain he would have all his fubjeds faved, and fo fell to dragooning. If you fay the magiftrate certainly knows them to be neceflary to falva- tion, we are luckily come to an infalnble guide. Well then, i\\e found creeds are agreed on ; the confeffion and liturgy are framed ; the ceremonies pitched on ; and the terms of communion thus i^Qt up, you have religion eftablifhed by law,: and what now is the fubjedt to do ? He is to conform* No; he muft firft confder. Who bids him eonfider t No body, he may, if he pleaies, but the law fays nothing to him of it: eonfider omoX. eonfider, if he conforms it is well, and he is approved of, and admitted* He dpes eon- fider the beft he can, but finds fome things he does, not underftand, other things he cannot believe, affent or confent to. What now is to be done with, him ? He muft either be punifhed on, or refign himfelf up to the determi- nation and diredlJon of the civil magiftrate j which till you can find a better name for it, we will call implicit faith. And thus you have provided a re- medy for the hazardous condition or weak underftandings, in that which you; fiippofe A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ig% fuppafe neceffaiy in llhe cafe, *w«. an ti^iMbk gmde and miplicit faith, ia matters concerning mens fahation. But you fay. For yoijr part, j®u )5i^(?rK^ dfnofuch guide of God's >appoiM&m;iJ there is mo need of any fnch .; A-ecaufe noPmit^landirig the long fmd many proofs and remote confequences, -^e :felfe groundis, and the capHtious and fallacious argum-ents of learned men verfed in cOTittoverfieS;, •nvith -which I (as 'weti as t^fe cf t§e Roman communionj indeavour to tmufi you J through thie jgo&dittfs of Oed the truth which is nectary tofahafiofi^ iies fo\olmimts and i^p^si. to sail that fincerei^ and ^iligentfy Jeek it, that nofuch perfonjhall ever fail of attaining the knowledge of it. This then is your an - Xwbr, that trut^ mea^ary to faliiation are obvious ; So that thofe v/kiofeek them fncerefy emd diii^ntly, are not in danger to be mifled or ex^ofe^ in thofe to enror, by the weaknefs of their underftandings. This will be a good anfwer to what I objedled from the danger moft are in to be led into -error, by the anagiftrate's adding force to the arguments for their national eftabliflied religions -, when you have fhewn that nothing is w^ont to he im- |i©fed in national religions, ' but what is neceflary to Xalvation ; or which will a litde better accommodate your hypothefis, when you can (hew that no- thing is impp&d, or required for communion with the church of England, tut what is m&cejary to falvati&n ; and confequently, is very eafy and dbviom to be kiiowji» .and di^inguifhed from falfhood. And indeed, befides what you fay here, upon your hypothefis, that force is lawful only becaufe it is necejjhry to bring men to falvation, it cannot be lawful to ufe it, to bring men to any thing, but what is abfolntely neceflary X.o falvation. For if the Jawfulnefs of force be only from the need men have of it to bring them to faliiation, it cannot lawfully be ufed, to bring men to that which they do not need, or is not neceiTary to their falvatioft ; for in fuch an application of it, it is not needful to their Jalvation. Can you therefore fay, that there is nothing required to be Relieved and profefled in the church of England, but what liesfo obvious and expofed to all that ftncerely and diligentiy feek it, that p^ 29 no fuch perfon jhall ever fail of attaining the knowledge of it f What think you of St, Athanafius^ creed ? Is the fenfe of that fo obvious and expofed to every one who feeks it, which fo many learned men have explained fo dif- ferent ways, and which yet a great many profefs they cannot underftand ? Or is it neceflary to your or my falvation, that you or I fhould believe and pronounce all thofe damned who do not believe that creed, i. e. every pro- :pofition in it ? ^vhich I fear would extend to not a ie\si of the church of England, unlefs we can think that people believe, i. e. affent to the truth of propdfitions, they do not at all underftand. If evet you were acquainted with a country parifh, you muft needs have a Arrange opinion of them, if you think all the plowmen and milkmaids at church, underftood all the propofitions in AthMnafius'% creed ; it is more, truly, than I {houjd be apt to think of any one of them, and yet I cannot hence believe myfelf au- thorized to judge or fi^onounce them.all damned : it is too bold an in- P p 2 trenching 292 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION trenching on the prerogative of the Almighty j to their own mafter they ftand or fall. The dodririe of original fin, is that which is profeffed, and muft be owned by the members of the church of England, as is evident from the XXXIX Articles, and feveral paflages in the Liturgy: and yet I afk you, whether this be^o obvious and expofed to all that diligently andjincerelyfeekthe truth, that one who is in the communion of the church of England, fin- cerely feeking the truth, raiay not raife to himfelf fiich difficulties concerning the dodtrine o^Original fin as may puzzle him though he be a man of ftudy ; and whether he may not pufli his inquiries fo far, as to be ftaggered in his opinion. If you grant me this, as I am apt to think you will, then I inquire whe- ther it be not true, notwithftanding what you fay concerning the plainnefs and obvioufnefs of truths neceffary to falvation, that a great part of mankind may not be able to difcern between truth and ,fal(hood, in feveral points, which are thought fo far to concern their falvation, as to be made neceflary parts of the national religion ? . If you fay it may be fo, then I have nothing further to inquire ; but fhall only advife you not to be fo fevere hereafter in your cenfure of Mr. Reynolds, as you are, where you tell me,' that the famous injiance I give of the two Rey- nolds'j is not of any moment to prove the contrary ; unlefs I can undertake, that he that erred was as fincere in his inquiry after that truth, as Ifuppofe him able to examine and judge. You will, I fuppofe, be more charitable another time, when you have con- fidered, that Tv€\^tx fincerity , nor freedom from error, even in the eftabliflied doctrines of their own church, is the privilege of thofe who join themfelves in outward profeflion to any national church whatfoever. And it is not im- poffible, that one who has fubfcribed the XXXIX Articles, may yet make it a queftion, Whether it may be truly faid that God imputes thefirjifn of Adam /a his pojierity ? etc. But we are apt to be fo fond of our own opi- nions, and almoft infallibility, that we will not allow them to hejincere, who quit our communion; whilft at the fame time we tell the world, it is pre- fumable, that all who imbrace it do it fincerely, and upon convidtion ; though vve cannot but know many of them to be but loofe, inconfiderate^ and ignorant people. This is all the reafon you have, when you ipeak of the Reynolds s, to fufpedl one of the brothers more than the other : and to think that Mr. Chillingworth had not as much fincerity when he quitted, as when he returned to the church of England, is a partiality, which nothing can juftify without pretending to infallibility. ' P» 34 To fhew that you do not fancy your force to be nfeful, but. that yon judge fo uponjufi and fufficient grounds, you tell us, xht Jirong probability ofitsfuc- cefs \& grounded upon the confidenation of human, nature, and the general temper af mankind' apt to be wrought upon by the method you fpeak of, and upon the indifputable-attefiation of experience. The confideration of human nature^ and the generd. temper: of ooaakind, will teach one this, that men are apt, m. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 293 in things within their power, to be wrought upon by force, and the more wrought upon, the greater the force or punifhments are : fo that where moderate penalties will not work, great feverities will. Which confi- deration of human nature, if it be a juji ground to judge any force ufeful, will I fear neceflarily carry you, in your judgment, to feverities beyond the moderate penalties, fo often mentioned in your iyftem, upon Sijirong probability of the fuccefs of greater punifhments, where lefs would not prevail. But if to conjider fo as you require, i. e. fo as to imbrace, and believe, be not in their power, then no force' at all, great or little, is or can be ufeful. You rnuft therefore, confider it which way you will, either renounce all force as «/{/«/, or pull off your mafk, and own all the feverities of the cru- elleft persecutors. The other reafon of your judging force to be ufeful, you {■a.j, is grounded on the indifputable attejiation of experience. Pray tell us where you have this attejiation of experience for your moderate^ which is the only witivX force : name the country where true religion or found Cbrijiianity has been nationally received, and ejiablijhed by moderate penal laws, that the obferving perfons you appeal to, may know where to imploy their obfervation : tell us bow long it was tried, and what was the. fuccefs of it ? And where there has been the re- laxation of fuch moderate penal laws j the fruits whereof haVe continually been epicurifm and atheifm ? Till you do this, I fear, that all the world will think, there is a more indifputable attejiation of experience for the fuccefs of - dragooning, and t\ie feverities you condemn, than of your moderate method-, which we fhall compare with the king of France's, and fee which is moft fuccefsful in making profelyjtes to church-conformity, for yours as well as his reach no further than that, "when you produce your examples : the con- fident talk whereof, is good to countenance a caufe, though experience there be none in the cafe. But you appeal, you fay, to all obferving perfons, whether wherever true 'P, ■^^ religion- or found Chrijiianity have been nationally received and ejiablijhed by mo- derate penal laws, it has not always vtftbly loji ground by the relaxation af thofe laws ? True or falfe religions, found or unfound Chriftianity, wherever eftablifhed into national religions by penal laws, always have loft, and al-. ways will lofe ground, /. e. lofe feveral of their conforming profeflbrs upon the relaxation of thofe laws. But this concerns not the true, more thart other religions ; nor is any prejudice to it; but only fhews that many are, by the penalties of the law, kept in the communion of the national religion, who are not really convinced or perfuaded of it : and therefore, as foon as liberty is given, they own the diflike they had many of them before, and out of perfuafion, curiofity, etc. feek out and betake themfelves to fbmeother profeiSion. This need not ftartle the magiftrates of any religion, much lefs thofe of the true, fince they will be fure to retain thofe, who more mind their fecular intereft than the truth of religion, who are every where the greater number, by the advantages of countenance and preferment : and. if it be the true 294 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION true religion, they will retain tkofe aM)> wJi© are in earneft of it, by the flrohger tie of confcicnce and convidlion. P. 34 You goon, Whetbm-fiBs andh^r^es feven thewildefi and mojf abfard, and ■even epicurifm and atheifm) hswe not continually theraipm Jpnead timmfihves,^ nnd whether the very life ofCkriJlumty has natjenfibly decayed^ as well as the number of found prof ejjbrs ef it been daily ieffened uptm it f As to Mheifm and epicitrifmt whether they more i^read under Toleration, or national religions, eftabhfhed by moderate penal laws, when you fliew us the countries where fair trial ha*th been made of both, that we may compare them together, we &all better be able to judge. ■ Epicurifm and athetfm, fay you, are found conjlantly to fpreud themfehes upon the relaxation of moderate penal laws. We will fuppofe your hiftory to be full of inftances of fuch relaxations, which you will in good time com- municate to the world, that wants, this affiilance from yonr obfervation. But were this to be juftified out of hiftory, yet would "it not be any argu- ment againfl Toleration ; unlefs your hiftory can furnifli you with a new fort of religion founded in atheifm. However^ you do well to charge the fpreading of atheifm upon Toleration in matters of religion, as an argument againft thofe who deny atheifm, which takes away all religion, to have any right to Toleration at all. Bat perhaps, as is tifoal for thofe who think all the world ihoald fee with their eyes, aad receive their ^ftems for unqueftion- able verities, zeal for your own way makes you call ail atheifm, that agrees not with it. That which makes me doubt of this, are thefe following Ibid words ', Not to Jpeak of what at this time our eyes cannot but fee for fear if .giving offence : though I hope it will be none to any that have a juji concern far truth andpiety, to take notice of the books a ndjj amphlets which now fly fo thick ^bout this kingdom, manifeftly tending to the multiplying offers and divifimis, and even to the-peromoting ^"fcepticifm in religion amongst us. In which num- ber, you fay, you. Jhall not much need my pardon, if you reckon the Firf and Second Letter concerning Toleration. Wherein, by a broad infinuation, you impute the fpreading oi. atheifm among us, to the late relaxation made in fa- vour of proteftant diffenters : and yet all that you take notice of as a proof of this, is the books and pamphlets which nonvfy fo thick about this kingdom, manifefly tending to the multiplying offeSls and divifions, and even to the pro- moting of fcepticifm in religion aimongst us ; and for inftanoe, you name the Ftrji and Second Letter concerning Toleration. If one may guefe at the others , by thefe, the atheifm 2.x\A fcepticifm you accufe them of will have but little more in it, than an oppofition to your hypothefis ; on which, the whole bu- finefs of religion muft fo turn, that whatever agrees not with your fyftem, muft prefently, by interpretation, be concluded to tend to the promoting of atheifm ox fcepticifm in religion. For I challenge you to fhew in either of thofe two Letters you mention, one word tending to epicurifm, atheifm, or fcepticifm in religion. ^ But, Sir, againft the next time you are to give an account of books and pamphlets tending to the promoting fcepticifm in religion amongst us, I -ihall mind A THIRD LETTER FOR TOtERATION 295 3fQu of the tbki hotter concerning Tokration, to be added ta the catalogue, which a0erting and building upon this, that true religiim m<^ b& imimn ^p ,_ thetfi ijah^ prafifs-'it, to he the otdy true religion, does not a little towards he-* traying the Cbriftian religion to fceptics. For what greater advantage ean. he given them, than to teach, that one may know the true religion ? there- by putting into their hands a right to demand it to be demonftratedto them,, that the Cbriftian religion is true, and bringing on the profeffors of it to a. neeeffity of doing it. I have heard it complained of as one great artifice of fceptica, to rc(juire demonftrations where they neither could be had, nor were neceflfary. But if the true religion may be known to men to be fo, a. fceptic may recpiire,, and you cannot blame him' if he does not reeeive your religion, upon the ftrongeft probable arguments, without demonftration. And if one fhouH demand of you demonftration of the trutha of your re- ligion, which I befeech you, would you do, either renounce your affertion, that it may be known to be true, or elfe undertake to demonftrate it to^ him? And as for the cbcay of the very- Bfe and Jfivit of Cbrifiiami^', and ther fpreading of epicurtfm amongft us : I aik, what can more tend to the pro- moting of them than this dodtrine, which is to be found in the fam© Let- ter, viz. That it is frefumabk that thole who confisrm, do it i^on reiiifhitandf eonvi^ion I When you: can inftancc in aqy thing fo muefr tending to the pro- moting oi fcepticifm in religion and epicurtfm, in the FirJ: or Second Letter^ concerning toleration, we ihaU have realon to think you have: fome grounds for what you fay; As to epicurifm, the fpreading whereof you likewife impute to ther^*i* ation of your moderate penal laws ; that fo far as it is diftind: from atheifm, 1 think regards mens lives more than their religions^ /. e. fpeculative opinions, in religion and ways of worihip, which is that we mean by religion, as con- cerned in Toleration. And for the toleration of corrupt manners, and the- debaucheries of Efe, neither our author . nor I do plead for it ; but fay it is- properly the magillrate's bufinefe, by punifliments to reftraia and fupprels them. I do not therefore blame your zeal againft atheifm and epicurifm j. "but you difcover a great zeal againft fomething elfe, in charging them on Toleration, when it is in the magiftrate's power to reftrain and fuppreis^ them by more effedtual laws than thofe for church conformity. For there are thofe who will tell you, that an outward profeffion of the national reli- gion, even where it is the true religion, is no more oppofite to> or incon- fiftent with atheifm or epicurifm^ than the owning of another religion, efpe^ cially any Cbriftian profefiion^ that differs from it. And therefore, you, in^ vain, impute atheifm or epicurifm to the lelaxation of penal laws, that re*- quire no more than an outward conformity to the national church. As to \hcfeSs and unchriftian divifoni, for other divifions there may be without prejudice to Chriftianity, at whofe door they chiefly ought to be; laid, I have Ihewed.you elfewhere. 296 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION , One thing I cannot but take notice of here, that having named JeSisi he- refiesy epicurifm, atheifm, and a decay of thefptrit and life of Chrifiianity, as the ixxiw.^ oi relaxation^ for which you had "the .tf//g/?^/w» of former v*;^^- P. 34 rience, you add thefe words, Not tofpeak of what our eyes at this time cannot but fee, for fear of giving offence. _ Whom is it, I befeech you, you are fo afraid of offending, if you fhould fpeak of the epicurifm, atheifm, and decay of thefpirit, and life of Chrijlianity, amongft us ? But I fee, he that is fo mo- derate in one part of his letter, that he will not take upon him to teach law- makers and governors, even what they cannot know without being taught by him, /. e. what he calls moderate penalties or force ; may yet, in another part of the fame letter, by brosfd infinuations, ufe reproaches, wherein it is a hard matter to think law-makers and governors are not meant. But whoever be meant, it is at leaft advifable in accufations that are eafier fuggefted than made out, to caft abroad the flander in general, and leave others to apply it, for fear thofe who are named, and fo juftly offended with a falfe impu- tation, fhould be intitled to afk, as in this cafe, how it appears that feSls and herefies have multiplied, epicurifm and atheifm fpread themfelves, and that the life andfpirit of Chrijlianity is decaf d more within thefe two years, than itwas before ; and that all this mifchief is owing to the late relaxation of the penal laws againft proteftant diflenters ? P. 35 You go on, And if thefe have always been the fruits of the relaxation of mo- derate penal laws, made for the preferving and advancing true religion; you tMnk this conf deration alone is abundantly fujicient to Jhem the -ufefulnefs and benefit offuch laws. For if thefe evils have confiantly fprung from the relax- ation of thofe laws, 'tis evident they, were prevented before by thofe laws. One would, think, by your faying, always been the fruits and confiantly fprung, that moderate penal laws, for preferving the true religion, had been the conftant pradlice of all Chriftian commonwealths ; and that relaxations of them, in favour of a free toleration, had frequently happened ; and that there were exarnples both of the one and the other, as common and known, as of princes that have perfecuted for religion, and learned men who have im- ployed their fkill to make it good. But till you fliew us in what ages or countries yqnr moderate eftablifliments were in fafhion, and where they . were again removed to make way for our Author's Toleration, you to as little purpofe talk of the fruits of them, as if you fhould talk of the fruit of a tree which no body planted, or was no where fufFered to grow till one might fee what fruit came from it. Having laid it down as one of the conditions for a fair debate of this con- L.II,p. lootroverfy, " That it fhould be .without fuppofing all along your church in " the right, and your religion the true ;" I add thefe words : " Which can " no more, be allowed to you in this case, whatever your church or reli- " gion be, than it can be to a Papifl or a Lutheran, a Prefbyterian or an '* Anabaptifl ; nay, no more to you, than it can be allowed to -a Jew or P_ ^j " Mohammedan." To which you replyj No; Sir? Not whatever your church or religion be f That feems fomcwbat hard. And you think I mtght have given A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION given you fome reafoH for what \fay : for certainly it is not fofe^f- evident as to need no proof . But you think it is no bard matter to guefs at my reafon^ though I did not think ft exprefsly to own it. For 'tis obvious enough there can be no other reafon for this ajfertion of mine, but either the equal truth, or at leaf the equal certainty (or uncertainty) of all religions. For whoever confders my ajfertion, mufifee, that to make it good I Jhall he obliged to maintain one of thefe two things : either, i . 'That no religion is the true religion, in oppoftioji to other religions : which makes all religions true orfalfe, andfo either way in- different. Or, 2. That though fome one religion be the true religion, yet no man can have any more reafon than another man of another religion may have, to believe his to be the true religion. Which makes all religions equally certain, (or uncertain, whether I pleafej and fo renders it vain and idle to inquire after the true religion, and only a piece of good luck if any man be of it, and fuch good luck as he can never know that he has, till he come into the other world. Whe- ther of thefe two principles I will joniMi, you know not. But certainly one or other of them lies at the bottom with me, and is the lurking fuppofition upon which I build all that I fay. Certainly no, Sir, neither of thefe reafons you have fo ingenuoufly and friendly found out for me, lies at the bottom ; but this, that whatever pri- vilege or power you claim, upon your fuppofing yours to be the true reli- gion, is equally due to another, who fuppofes his to be the true religion, upon the fame claim : and therefore that is no more to be allowed to you than to him. For whofe is really the true religion, yours or his, being the matter in conteft betwixt you, your fuppofng can no more determine it on your fide, than his fuppofing on his ', unlefs you can think you have a right to judge in your own caufe. You believe yours to be the true religion, fo does he believe his : you fay you are certain of it, fo fays he, he is : you think you have arguments proper andfufficient to convince him, if he would confider themj the fame thinks he of his. If this claim, which is equally on both fides, be allowed to either, without any proof; it is plain he, in whofe favour it is allowed, is allowed to be judge in his own caufe, which no body can have a right to be, who is not at leaft infallible. If you come to arguments and proofs, which you muft do, before it can be determined whofe is the true religion, it is plain your fuppofition is not allowed. In our prefent cafe, in ufing puniihments in religion, your fuppofing yours to be the true religion, gives you or your magiftrate no more advan- tage over a Papift, Prefbyterian, or Mohammedan, or more reafon to punifh either of them for his religion, than the fame fuppofition in a Papift, Pref- byterian, or Mohammedan, gives any of them, or a magiftrate of their re- ligion, advantage over you, or reafon to punifh you for your religion : and therefore this fuppofition, to any purpofe or privilege of ufing of force, is no more to be allowed to you, than to any one of any other religion. This the words, in this case, which I there ufed, would have fatisfied any other to have been my meaning : but whether your charity made you not to take notice of them, or the joy of fuch an advantage as this, not to un-f Qjq derftand 298 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION derftand them, this is certain, yoa were rtfolved not to lofe the opportu- nity, fuch a plaice as this afforded you, of {h«wlng your gift, ift comment-^ ing and guefling {hrewdly at a man's reafbns, when he does not think ^ ex" prefs/y to own them hinafelf. I mtift own you have a very lucky hasnd at it j and as yo« do it here upon the fame ground, fo it is juft with the fame fstceefsy as you in another place have excrcifed your logic oa my faying fomething to the fame purpofe, as I do here. But, Sir, if you wilt add but one more to your plentiful fk)ck of diftindtions) and obferve the difference there is between the ground of any one's fappofing his religion is. true, and the privilege he may pretend to by fuppofing it true, you will never Humble at this again ; b«t you will find, that though upon the former of tbeie accounts, men of all rel^ions cannot be equally allowed to fuppofe their religions trae, yet in reference to the lat- ter, the fuppofetion may and ought tQ be allowed, or denied equally to ali men. And the reafon of it is plain, W2;. Becaufe the affurance wherewi^ one man fuppofeshis religion to be true, being no more an argument of its truth to another, than vice verfd ; neither of them can claim by the aiffit- tance, wherewith he fuippofes his religion the true, any prerogaiciive or power over the other, which the other has not by the fame title an equal claim tOy over him. If this will not ferve to fpare you the pains anothef time of any more fuch reafonings, as we have twice had on. this Bih^eQif I think I QiaW be forced to fend you to my Mehammedam or Pagaiix: and I doubt whether I am not lefs civil to: your parts than I fhould be, that I do not fend you. to them now. P. 47 You go on, and fey. But as untarfonaixie as this condition is, y cm fee no need, you hmie to decline it, nor any GC£afian\ had toimpsjiit tifsa you. Psr certainly the m&kmg what 1 eallyoar new methvdi eanfifient and' ft-a^cabk^ does no way oblige you /o &ppofe all along your reiigifm the true, as \ magme. And as I imagine it does : for without that fuppofxtion, I would faim hm^ you fhew me, how it is in any one country,, pradlicable to punil^ men to bring them to the true religion. For if you will argue for forcej- as necef- iary to bring men to the true religion, without fuppofing yaucs to be it, you will find yourfelf under fome fuch difficulty as thisj that then it muft be iirft determined, and you will require it fhould be, which is the true religion, before any one can have a right to ufe force to bring men to it ; which, if every one did not determine for himfelf, by fuppofing his own the true, no body, I think, will defire Toleration any longer than till that be fettled. Ibid. You go on : No, Sir, it h enough for that purpofe, that there is one true re- ligion, and but one. Suppofe not the national religion eflablifhed: by law in 'England to be that, and then even upon, your principles of its being ^^^/^Z, and that the magiflrate has a comnrifTion. to ufe force for the prdmoting the true religion, prove, if you pleafe, that the magiflrate hars a; power to ufe force to bring men to the national reUgion in Englarrd. For then you muft prove the national religion,, as eftablifhed by law 'm England, to .he that c/?^ true A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 299 irue relfgion, and fothe true religion; that he rejeds the true religion who diffents from any part of it j ana (o rejedting the true religion, cannqt be faved. But of thie more in another place. Your other two fuppofitions, which you join to the foregoing, are, T'teP. 47 t&at religion may he kncnvn by thofe "who profefs it, to be the only true religion ; md may alfo be manifefied to be fach by them to others, fo far at leaji, as to oblige them to receive it, and to leave them without excufe, if they do not. Thefe, you fay, are fuppofitions, enough for the making your method cdn- fiftentandpraSiieable. They are, I guefs, more than enough, for you, upon them, to prove any national religion in the world the only true religion. And till you have proved, for you profefs here to have quitted the fuppofition of any one's being true, as necelTary to your hypothefis, fome national religion to be that only true religion, I would gladly know how it is any where prac- ticable to ufe force to bring men to the true religion. You fuppofe there is one true religion, and but one. In this we are both agreed : And from hence, I think, it will follow, fince whoever is of this true religion {hall be faved, and without being of it no man (hall be faved, that upoa your fecond and third fuppofition, it will be hard to fhew any na- tional religion to be this only true religion. For who is it will fay, he knows, or that it is knowable, that any national religion, wherein muft be compre- hended all that, by the penal laws, he is required to imbrace, is that only true religion ; which if men rejefl:, they fhall ; and which, if they imbrace, they (hall not mifs falvation? Or can you undertake that any national re- ligion in the world can be manifefied to be fuch, i. e. in fhort, to contain all things necefliary to falvation, and nothing but what is fo ? For that, and that alone, is the one only true religion, without which no body can be faved j and which is enough for the falvation of every one who imbraces it. And therefore whatever is lefs or more than this, is not the one only true religion, or that which there is a neceflity for their falvation, men fhould be forced to imbrace. I do not hereby deny, that there is any national religion which contains all that is neceifary to falvation, for fo doth the Romifti religion, which is not for all that, fo much as a true religion. Nor do I deny, that there are national religions that contain all things neeeffary to falvation, and nothing inconfiftent with it, and To may be called true religions. But fince they all of them join with what is necefiiary to falvation, a great deal that is not fo, and make that as neceifary to communion, as what is neeeffary to falvation^ not fuffering any one to be of their communion, without taking all toge- ther ; nor to live amongft them free froni punifliment, out of" their com-* munion ; will you affirm, that any of the national religions of the world, which are iinpofed by penal laws, and to which men are driven with force, can be faid to be, that one only true religion, which if men imbrace, they fhail be faved ; and which, if they imbrace not, they (hall be damned ? And therefore your two fuppofitions. True or Falfe, are not enough to make it pra(5ticablej upon your principles of neceflity, to ufe force upon CLaa dif- A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION diffenters from the national religion, though it cohtain in it nothing but truth, unlefs that which is required to communion be all neceffary to lalva- tion. For whatever is not neceffary to falvation, there is no neCeffity any one fliould imbrace. So that whenever you fpeak of the true religion, to make it to your purpofe, you muft fpeak only of what is neceffary to fal- vation j unlefs you will fay, that in order to the falvation of mens fouls, it is neceffary to ufe force to bring them to ittibrace fomething, that is not ne-* ceffary to their falvation. I think that neither you, nor any body elfe^ will affirm, that it is neceffary to ufe force to bring men to receive ali the truths of the Chriftian religion, though they' are truths God has thought fit to -reveal. For then, by youi* own rule, you who profefs the Chriftian religion, muft know them all, and muft be able to manifeft them to others ; for it is on that here you^ ground the neceffity and reafonablenefs ; of penalties ufed to bring men to ifmbrace the truth. But I fufpeft it- is the good word religion, as in other places; other words, has mifled you, whilft: you content your felf with good founds, and fome confufed notions, that ufually accompany them, without annexing to them any precife determin- ed fignification. To convince you that it is not without ground I fay this, I ftiall defire you but to fet down what you mean here by true religion, that we may know what in your fenfe is, and what is not contained in it. ■ Would you but do thus fairly, and define your words, or ufe them in one conftant fettled fenfe, I think the controverfy between you and me would be at an. end, .without any further trouble. Having (hewed of what advantage they are like to be to you for the mak- i>ng your method pradlicable, in the next place let us confider your fuppo- fitions themfelves. As to the firft, "There is one true religion, and but one, •we are -agreed. But what you fay in the next place. That t&at one true re- ligion may be known by thdfe 'who profefs it, will need a little examination. As firft, it will be neceffary to inquire, what you meanhykno'wn ; whether you mean by it knowledge properly fo called, as contra-diftinguiftied to be- lief; or only the affurance of a firm belief? If the latter. Heave you your fuppofition to make your ufe of it, only with this defire, that to iavoid miftafces, w^hen you do make any ufe of it, you would call it believing. If you mean that the true religion may be known with the certainty of know- ledge properly fo called ; I aflc you farther, Whether that true religion be to be known by the light of nature, or needed a divine revelation to difcover it ? If you fay, as I fuppofe you will, the latter ; then I afk whether the making out of that to be a divine revelation, depends not upon particular matters of fad, whereof you were no eye-witnefs j but were done many ages before you were born ? and if fo, by what principles of fcience they can be known to any man now living ? The articles of my religion, and of a great many other facb. fhort-fighted people as I am, are articles of faith, which we think there are fo good grounds to believe, that we are perfuaded to venture our eternal happinefs on that belief : And hope to be of that number of whom our Savioiir faid, ■ BlefeJ A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 301 Bkjfid are they that have notfeeriy and yet have believed. But we neither think that God requires, nor has given us faculties capable of knowing ia this world feveral of thofe truths which are to be believed tofalvation. If you have a religion, all whofe general truths are either felf-evident, or capable of demonftration, for matters of fane. But the miichief of it is, it is a mart that muft condemn, men muft punifh, and men cannot do this but by judging who is guilty of the crime which they punifli. An Oracle, or an interpreter of the law of nature, who fpeaks as clearly, tells the ittagiilrate, he may and ought to puni'fh thofe, who rejeSi the true reli- gion, tendered with fwffieient evidence: The nvagiftrate is fatisficd of his au- thority, and believes this commiffion to be good. Now I would know how poflibly he can execute it, without making himfelf the judge fii'ft what is the true teligiofl ; urtlefs- the law of nature at the fame time de- livered into his hands the XXXIX Articles of the one only true reiigion, an(i another book wherein all the ceremonies and outward woffhip of it are contained^ But it being certain, that the law of nature has- not done this > and as certain, that the articles, ceremonies, and difeiplirie of this one only- true religion, have been ofteft varied ifl feveral ages and countries, fince the magiftrate's commiffion by the law of nature was firft given : there is HO remedy left, but that the magiftrate muft judge what is the true religion, if he muft punifh them who peje£t it. Suppofe the magiftrate be commif- fiidned to punifli thofe who depart firotn ri^ht feafon, the magiftrate can yet never puni£h any one, unlels h© be judge what is right re^fon ; and then judging that murder, theft, adultery, narrow car^c-wheels, or want of bows and arrows in a man's houfe, are againft right reafon, he may make laws to pursiih men guilty of thofe, as rejeding right reafon. So if the magiftrate in 'England or France, having a commiffion to.punifli- thofe who rejeSl the one o)ily true religion, judges the religion of his national church to be it, it is poffible for him to lay penalties on thofe who rejedt itj purfuant to that commiffion ; otherwife, without judging that to be the one only true religion, it is wholly impracticable for him to punifh thofe who- imbrace it not, as feje<£l:ers of the one only true religion. To provide as good 2,falvo as the thing will bear, you fay, in the follow- ing words. Before we canfuppofe magijirates every where fo to punijhy we muji fi^pofe the true religion to be everywherethe national. That is true of adlual puilifliffient, but not of laying on penalties by law; for that would be to fuppofe the national religion makes or chufes the magiftrate, and not the magiftrate 304 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION magiflrate the national religion. But we fee the contrary ; for let the na- tional 'religion be what it will before, the magiftrate doth not always fall into it and imbrace that ; but if he thinks not that, but fome other the true, the firft opportunity he has, he changes the national religion into that which he judges t&e true, and then punifhes the diffenters from it; where his judgment, which is the true religion, always neceffarily precedes, and is that which ultimately does, and muft determine who are rejedters of the true religion, and fo obnoxious to punifhment. This being fo, I would gladly fee how your method can be any way pradticable to the advantage of the true religion, whereof the magiftrate every where muft be judge, orelfe he can punijh no body at all. P- 54 You tell me that whereas I fay, that to juftify puniftiment it is requifite that it be direftly ufeful for the^ procuring fome greater good than that which if takes away ; you wijh I had told you -why it mujl needs be diredtly ufeful for that purpofe. However exa£t you may be in demanding reafons of what is faid, I thought here you had no caufe to complain ; but you let flip out of your memory the foregoing words of this pafTage, which together ftands L. II, p. 10 1 thus, " Punifliment is fome evil, fome inconvenience, fome fuffering, by ** taking away or abridging fome good thing, which he who is punifhed " has otherwife a right to. Now to juftify the bringing any fuch evil upon " any man, two things are requifite; i. That he that does it has a com- ** miflion fo to do. 2. That it be diredlly ufeful for the promoting fome ** greater good," It is evident by thefe words, that puniftiment brings di- re(9t evil upon a man, and therefore it ftiould not be ufed but where it is. diredlly ufeful for the procuring fome greater good. In this cafe, the figni- fication of the word direSily, carries a manifeft reafon in it, to any one who underftands what direSlly means. If the taking away any good from a man* cannot be juftified, but by making it a means to procure a greater, is it not plain' it muft be fo a means as to have, in the operation of caufes and efi^edts, a natural tendency to that effedt ? and then it is called direSlly ufeful te fuch an end : And this may give you a reafon, why punifhment muji be direSi ly ufeful for that purpofe. I know you are very tender oi your indireB ana at adiftance ufefulnefs of force, which I have in another place {hewed to be, in your way, only ufeful by accident j nor will the queftion you here P- 54 fubjoin, excufe it from being fo, i)i%. Why penalties are not as direSlly ufeful for the bringing men to the true religion, as the rod of correSlion is to drive foolifhnefs from a child, or to work wifdom in him f Becaufe the rod works on the will of the child, to obey the reafon of the father, whilft under his tuition, and thereby makes it fupple to the didtates of his own reafon after- wards, and difpofes him to obey the light of that, when being grown to be a man, that is to be his guide, and this is wifdorri. If your penalties are fo ufed, I have nothing to fay tothem. Your way is charged to be impradticable to thofe ends you propofe, which you indeavour to clear, p. 63. That there may be fair play on Jaoth fides, the reader (hall have in the fame view what we both fay. L. 11, A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION L. II, p. 109. " It remains now to examine, L. Ill, p. 63. But '• whether the author's argument will not hold hanv little to the purpafe *' good, even againft punifliments in your way. this requeji of yours is, *' For if the magijhate's authority be, as you here will quickly appear. For " fay, only to procure all hisfubj0s (mark what if the maglflrate pro' "you fay, all his subjects) the means of dif- vides fufficieritly for the *' covering the way of falvation, and to procure injiruction of all hisfub- " withal, as much as in him lies, that none remain jectsinthe true religion ; '^ igriorant of it, or refufe to imbrace it, either for and then requires them " want of ujing thofe means, or by reafon of any all,' under convenient *^fuch prejudices as may render them ineffeSlual. If penalties, to hearken to " this be the magiftrate's bufinefs, in reference to the teachers and minif- " ALL HIS SUBJECTS J I defirc you, or any man ters of it, and to pro- " elfe, to tell me how this can be done, by the fe/s and exercife it with " application of force only to a part of. them ; one accord, under their " unlefs you will ftill vainly fuppofe ignorance, direction, in public af- *' negligence, or prejudice, only amongft that part femblies: Is there any " which any where differs from the magiftrate. pretence to fay, that in '* If thofe of the magiftrate's church may be ig- fo doing he applies force "norant of the way of falvation; If it be poflible only to a part of his f there may be amongft them, thofe who refufe to fubjects ; when the law ^^ imbrace it, either for want of ufng thofe means, is general, and ex- *' or by reafon of any fuch prejudices as may render cepts none ? It is true, "them ineffeBual;WhsA in this cafe, becomes of the magiftrate inflicts •* the magiftrati s authority to procure all his fubjects the penalties in that *• the means of difcovering the way of falvation f cafe, only upon them ** Muft thefe of his fubjedts be neglefted, and left that break the law. ** without the means he has authority to procure But is that the thing *' them ? Or muft he ufe force upon them too ? you mean by his apply- *' And then, pray fhew me how this can be done, ing force only to a ** Shall the magiftrate punifti thofe of his own re- part of his fubjedls ? " ligion, to procure them the means of difcovering Would you have him " the way of falvation, and to procure, as much as punijh all indifferently ? " in him lies, that they remain not ignorant of it, or them that- obey the law, " refufe not to imbrace it ? Thefe are fuch con- as well as them that do " traditions in praiSice, this is fuch condemnation not ? " of a man's own religion, as no one can expedt *' from the magiftrate j and I dare fay you defire jis to ignorance, " not of him. And yet this is that he muft do, negligence and preju- " f his authority be to procure all his fubjects the dice. / defire you, or " means of difcovering the way to falvation. And aiiy man elfe, to tell me " if it be fo needful, as you fay it is, that he ftiould what better courfe can " ufe it ; I am ivivc force cannot do that till it be be taken to cure them, "applied wider, and punifhment be laid upon than that which I have " more than you would have it. For if the ma~ mentioned. For if after iftrate R r all 5o6 A THIR.I^ LETTER FOR T O 5. E R. A TIO N" " S^f^t^ beihyf^rcA. to frojmre, as mt^b a^^m hkh att that. Qpd's( mmjlers, •^ '^ lie^ thaA none ^«^«? igmtr-ifnt of thfi'ijo^ (f.fai" ondf the m^ift/ft^'. caff " 'vaj4on:i muft- he not; puni/l) ajll tjiofe wfe?. arfr 4o,j finp» tviM'.JIM: ne- " ignomnt.oji tM 'miy.'(^ f^vMion:^ An4 p^ajf tell: main- %R@rant, n^C— " nje hx?w f& tfeis W^f v?ay pFa.(3:iQal3kj, bMby^Ajp- gefife o/t pisejudked^j. /' '^pofi^ng 11011,0: in ^^.na:$ional> church, igjiQpatfit,. aadj 5 da ? S© thafe z»g^ 'j«ij&af^ infidMljr- " th m^ijimte-. him^, hy ymx own eoof^fiflife, cupes dl-: d^kt^di per- " n^ auMwif^i. thus- tp u|e fiipeety ai^d it' beaag fins? tv. 'mhma ki is. a^"' *• Qth^rways, impraaicablQfor djfi:/»*wf/^f/K^ ;S/«^l *^ fi^je(if5^t-^,n^fms: of difiii^fring t-M im^ offa^r^ *f vgfi^n\i there- isi an, end o£f$rce.K And; Co: force ** being l^d^ afide, either as uwliisivrfu.l, or unp^^j- *' ticable, the author's argunjenfo holds good againft 'f force, evi^ ijiyour way of applying it. A.p. 6toi2 The baekw-ardnefs and lufts t^9^,lmidtr a,nJff^artiaJep(iminfition, as ysii- defbribe. ife. is. general. The cprruption of nature whieh: hinifcrs ar^a/ //»*- b.m(;ingi the truei religion, thajt alfo you tell us, herei is univerfal. I afk a- A.p. 6, 8 re^oe^y. fer thefts in your way. You fey, Mf /;??si;'for conformity is genera/,- excepts, none, ^ery likely, «(?«:^ that dj) not^qonfojini' ; but. pumflies. none- who. conforming, da neither imf>artiaiJy: examine. non really imbrace thctme religion. From whence I conclude there is. no carruptioOiofnature, ia thofei who are brought up. or join in outward^ communion with the. church, of- England:. But ; wh^thbr they are ignorant and -hypocritical confor- mifts, and ift that way like to reihiain -fo, leather than to become fchovving and fincere^soMvtrts, fome -bifbops have thought is not Fufficiently inquired ; ifoHt tliie no body is to teention, for whoever does fo, makes hmjelf an occa- 0m io/he^ 'his -^od ivtllto ihe clergy. This fead not befen faid tjy me here, now I fee how apt yota are to be put out of tempet with any thing of this kitid, though it be in-every ferious' man's mouth, had not yoU defired me to fhew you a better \Svay than force, your way applied. And to ufe youir way of afguing, fince bare preaching, «s now ufed, it is plain, will not do, there is no Othet means left but this to deal with the corrupt nature of conformifts j for miracles are now'ceafed, and petialties they are free from ; threrefbre, by yoiir Way of concltiding, ■no ether ireing kfi, this of vifiting at home, conferring and inftrudting, and adBaOM'feing men there, and the like means, propofed by the reverend au- thor of the pajloral care, is neceffary ; a.nd men, whofe bufinefs is thfe care of fouls, are dMi^ei to ufe it : for you canhoi prove, that it 'cannot do fome fervice, I thifrk \ need not fay, indireBty a) if you mean any anfwer to my argument, it is this, that force is neeeffary, becaufe to bring men into' the right way there' is ot^er human means neceSki-y; befides admonition's and' perfuafions. For elfe what have w'e to do with human in the cafe? But it is no fmall' ad vantage one owes to logic, that where fenfe and reafon fail fhort, adiffinftion ready at hand may echitout. Force, when perfuafions will not prevail, is rrecef'aiy, fay you, becaufe it is the only means left. When you are told it is not the only means left,*2Xi^ {o cannot be neeeffary on that account : you reply, that when ad-^. 40 monitions' and' intreaties fail, there is no human nreans left, but penalties, to bring prejudiced perfons to hear and confider what' may convince them of their errors, and'difoover the truth to them': and then penalties will be neeeffary in' refpeB to that end, as an human means. Suppofe-itbe urged to you^ when your moderate lower penalties fail, there is no human means left but dtagooning and fuch other feverities ; which you fay you cgndemn-z.^ much as 1, to bring prejudiced perfons: to hear and A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION and conjider 'what may convince them of their errors, and difcover the truth to them. And then dragooning, imprifontnent, icourging, 6ning,, etc. . wi/l 6e necejfary in reJpeB to that end, as a human means. What can you fay but this ? that you are impowered to judge what degrees of human means are neceffary, but others are not. For without fueh a confidence in your own judgment, where God has neither faid how much, nor that any force is ne- cejfary, I think this is as good an argument for the higheft, as yours is for th,e lower penalties. When admonitions and intreaties will not prevails then penalties, htver penalties, fame degrees of force will be necejjary, fay you, as a human means. And when your lower penalties, your fame degrees of force will not prevail, then higher degrees will be neceffary, fay I, as a human means. And my reafon is the fame with yours, becaufe there is no other means, i.e. human means, left. Shew me how your argument concludes for lower punifhments being neceffary, and mine not for higher, even to dra- gooning, -et eris mihi magnus Apollo. But let us apply this to your fuccedaneum of miracles, and then it will be much more admirable. You tell us, admonitions and intreaties not pre- vailing to bring men into the right way, force is necejfary, becaufe there is no other means left. To that it is faid, yes, there is other means left, the grace of God. Ay, but, fay you, that will not doj becaufe you fpeak only of human means. So that according to your way of arguing, fome other hu' man means is neceffary : for you yourfelf tell us, that the means you were j^'caking of, where you fay, that when admonitions and intreaties will not do, what other means is there left but force f were human means. Your words are, which any one, who reads that paragraph, will find to be only human means. By this argument then other human means are necejfary befides preaching and perfuafion, and thofe human means you have found out to be €\x}a&x force, or miracles : the latter are certainly notable human means. And your diflinc- tion of human means ferves you to very good purpofe, having brought mi- racles to be one of your human means. Preaching and admonitions, fay you, are not fufficient to bring men into the right way, fomething elfe is necejfary ; yes, the grace of God ; no, fay you, that will not do, it is not human means: if is neceffary to have other human means, therefore in the three or four firft ' centuries after Chriflianity, the infufHciency of preaching and admonitions was made up with miracles, and thus the neceffity. of other human means is made good. But to confider a little farther your miracles as fupplying the_ want of force. The queftion between us here is. Whether the Chriflian religion did ^not prevail in the firfl ages of the church, by its own beauty, force and reafon-, ableneis; without the afliflance oi force f I fay it did, and therefore exter- P, 7 nal force is not neceffary. To this you reply, that it cannot prevail by its own light, andjirength, without the ajfifiance either of miracles, or of autho- rity ; and therefore the Chrifiian religion not being fill accompanied ivith mi- racles, force is now neceffary. So that to make your equivalent of mi- racles correfpond with your necejfary means of force, you feem to require an aftual A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 313 aftual application of miracles, or oi force, to prevail with men to receive the Gofpel, /. e. men could not be prevailed with to receive the Gofpel without actually feeing of miracles. For when you tell us. That you are p. 6 fure I cannot fay the Chrijiian religion is fill accompanied ivith miracles, as it was at its firfr planting; I hope you do not mean that the Gofpel is not ftill accompanied with a"n undoubted teflimony that miracles were done by the firft publifhers of it, which was as much of miracles, as I fuppofe the greateft part of thofe had,, with whom the Chriftian religion prevailed, till it wzsfupported and inciouraged, as you tell us, by the laws of the empire : forp, 37 I think you will not fay, or if you fhould, you could not expedt to be be- lijeved, that all, or the greateft part of thofe, that imbraced the Chriftian religion, before it wzsfupported by the laws of the empire, which was not till the fourth century, had adlually miracles done before them, to work upon them. And all thofe, who were not eye-witneffes of miracles done in their prefence, it is plain had no other miracles than we have, that is upon report ; and it is probable not fo many, nor fo well attefted as we have. The greateft part then, of thofe who were converted, at leaft, in fome of thofe ages, be- fore Chrijlianity was fupported by the laws of the empire, I think you muft allow, were wrought upon by bare preaching, . and fuch miracles as we ftill have, miracles at a diftance, related miracles. In others, and thofe the greater number, prejudice was not fo removed, that they were prevailed on to confider, toconfder as they ought, i.e. in your language, to confider fo as to imbrace. If they had not fo confidered in our days, what, ac- cording to your fchenie, muft haye been done to them, that did not confider as they ought f Force muft have been applied to them. What therefore in the primitive church was to be done to them ? Why ! your fuccedaneum miracles, adlual miracles, fuch as you deny the Chrijiian religion to be Jiill accompanied with, muft have been done in their prefence, to work upon them. Will you fay this was fo, and make a new church-hiftory for us, and outdo thofe writers who have been thought pretty liberal of miracles ? If you do not, you muft confefs miracles fupplied not the place oi force, and fo let fall all your fine contrivance about the neceflity either of ^ort^ or mi- racles; and perhaps you will think it at laft a, more- becoming modefty, not to fet the divine power and providence on work, by rules, and for the ends of your hypothefis, without having any thing in authentic hiftory, much lefs in divine and unerring revelation to juftify you. But force and power deferve fomething more than ordinary and allowable arts or arguments, to get and keep them : ft violandum ft jus, regnandi caufa "violandum eji. If the teftimony, of miracles having bee^ done, were fufficient to make the Gofpel prevail, without force, on thofe, who were not eye-witneffes of them, we have that ftill, and fo upon that account need not force to fupply the want of it : but if truth muft have either the law of the country, or adtual miracles iofupport it, what became of it after the reign of Confiantine the great, under all thofe emperors that were erroneous or heretical ? It fupported itfelf in Piedmont, and France, and I'urkey, many ages without S f force 314 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION force or miracles : and it fpread itfelf in divers nations and kingdoms of the North and Eaft, without any force, or other miracles than thofe that wefe done many ages before. So that I think yott will, upon fecond thoughts, not deny, but that the true religion is able to prevail now, as it did at firft, and has done fince in many places, without affiftance from the powers in being, by its own beauty, force, and reafonaWenefs, whereof well-attefted miracles is a part. But the account you give U5 of miracles will deferve to be a little ex- P, 37 amined. We have it in thefe words, Cofifdering that thsfe extraordinary means were not •withdrawrit till by their help Chrijiianity had prevailed to be received for the religion of the empire, and to be fupported and incottr aged by thelaijssofit, yoxx cannot, you lay, but think it highly probable, fifnvemay be allowed to guefs at the counfels of infinite wifdomj that God was pleajed to continue them till then, not fo much for any necejjity there was ofthetn all that while, for the evincing the truth of the Cbrijiian religion, as tofupply the want ofthemagijlrate's^aj^aftce. Miracles then, if what you fay' be true, were continued till Chrijiianity was re-ceived for the religion of the empire, not fa Much to evince the truth of the Chrtftian Religion, as to fupply the want of the tnagijlriate s ajjifiance. But in this the learned author, whofe teftimony you quote, fails you. For he tells you that the chief ufe of miracles, in the church, after the truth of the Chriftian religion had been fufficiehtly con- firmed by them in the world, was to oppofe the falfe and pretended mi- racles of heretics and heathens j and anfwerable hereunto miracles ceafed and returned again, as fuch oppo'fitions made them more or lefs necefTary. Accordingly miracles, which before had abated, in Trajan's and Hadrians time, which was in the latter -end of the firft, or beginning of the fecond century, did again revive to confound the magical delufions of the heretics of that time. And in the third century the heretics ufing no fuch tricks, and the faith being confirmed, they by degrees ceafed, of which there then, he fays, could be no imaginable neceffity. His words are, *• Et quidem eo *' minus neceffaria funt pro veterum principiis, recentiora ilia miracula, quod ^** haereticos, quos appellant, nullos adverfarios habeant, qui contraria illis " dogmata aftruant miraculis. Sic enim vidithus, apud veteres, dum nuUi " ecclefiam exercerent adverfarii, feu haeretici, feu Gentiles ', aut fatis illi " praeteritis miraculis fuiflfent refutati ; aut nuUas ipfi praeftigias oppone- " rent quae veris eifent miraculis oppugnandae; fubdudam deinde paulatim " efle mirificam illam fpiritus virtutem. Ortos fub Trajano Hadrianoque *' haereticos oftendimus praeftigiis magicis fuiffe ufos, et proinde miraculo- ^' rum verorum in ecclefia ufum una revixisse. Ne dicam praeftigtatores •• etiam Gentiles eodem illo feculo fane frequentifllmos, Apuleium in Afri- " ca, in Afia Alexandrum Pfeudomantim, multofque alios quorum memi- " nit Ariftides. Tertio feculo orto, haeretici Hermogenes, Praxeas, Noe- " tus, Theodotus, Sabellius, Novatianus, Artemas, Samofatenus, nulla, ut *' videtur, miracula ipfi venditabant, nullis propterea miraculis oppugnandi. " Inde vidimus, apud ipfos etiam Catholicos, ferifim defecifife miracula. Et ** quidem, haereticis nulla in contrarium miracula oftentantibus, quae tandem. " fingi A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION " fingi poteft miraculorum neceffitas traditam ab initio fidem, miraculiique " adeo jaradudum confirmatam praedicantibus ? Nulla certe prorfus pro " primaevo miraculorum exemplo. Nulla denique confciis vere primaevam '* efle fidem quam novis miraculis fufcipiunt confirmandam." Dodwell, DifTertat. in Iraen. Diff. II, Seft. 65. The hiftory therefore you have from him, of miracles, ferves for his hy- ppthefis, but not at all for yours. For if they were continued to fupply the want of force, which was to deal with the corruption of depraved human nature, that being without any great variation in the world, conftantly the fame, there could be no reafon why they fhould abate and fail, and then re- turn and revive again. So that there being then, as you fuppofe, no necef- fity of miracles for any other end, but to fupply the want of the magijirate's ajtjiance, they muft, to fute that end, be conftant and regularly the fame, as you would have force to be, which is fteddily and uninterruptedly to be applied, as a conftantly necelTary remedy, to the corrupt nature of man- kind. If you allow the learned DoJwell's reafons, for the continuation of mira- cles, till the fourth century, your hypothefis, that they were continued to fupply the magiftrate's afliftance, will be only precarious. For if there was need of miracles till that time to other purpofes, the continuation of them in the church, though you could prove them to be as frequent and certain as thofe of our Saviour and the Apoftles, it would not advantage your caufe : fince it would be no evidence, that they were ufed for that end, which as long as there were other vifible ufes of them, you could not, without reve- lation, affure us were made ufe of by Divine Providence to fupply the want offhe magijirate's ajfijlance. You mufl therefor confute his hypothefis, be- fore you can make any advantage of what he fays, concerning the continu- ation of miracles, for the eftablifhing of yours. For till you can fhew, that that which he afllgns was not the end, for which they were continued in the church ', the utmoft you can fay, is, that it may be imagined, that one reafon of their continuation was to fupply the want of the magijirate's ajjijl- ance : but what you can without proof imagine pofllble, I hope you do not expedt fhould be received as an unqueftionable proof, that it was fo. I can imagine it pofiible they were not continued for that end, and one imagina- tion will be as good a proof as another. To do your modefty right therefore, I mufl allow, that you do faintly offer at fome kind of reafon, to prove that miracles were continued to fupply the want of the magijtrates qjjijiance : and fince God has no where declared, that it was for that end, you would perfuade us in this paragraph, that it was fo, by two reafons. One is, that the truth of the Chriflian religion be- ing.fufficiently evinced by the miracles done by our Saviour and his Apoftles, and perhaps their immediate fuccefTors, there was no other need of miracles to be continued till the fourth century; and therefore they were ufed by God to fupply the want of the magnates ajijiance. This I ta ke to be the meaning of thefe words of yours, 1 cannot bat think it highly .probable that S f 2 " Cod 3i6 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION G&d wai pleafed to continue them till then, not fo much for dnfn'ecejjity iherk •was of them all that while for the evincing the truth of the Chrijiidn religion, as tofufply the want of the magifirates a/jijiance. Whereby, I fuppofe, you do not barely intend to tell the world what is ybiir opiniorl in the cafe, but ufe this as an argument, to make it probable to others, that this was the end for which miracles were continued, which at beft will be but a very doubt- ful probability to build fuch a bold aflertion on, as this of yours is, viz. That the Chrijiian religion is not able to fubfijl and ftevail in the world, by its Ofwn light andjlrength, without 'the ajjijiance either 6f force, or adrual miracles. And therefore you muft either produce a declaration from heaven that au- thorizes you to fay, that miracles were ufed to fupfly the want of force, or fliew that there was no other ufe of them but this. For if any other ufe can be affigned of them, as long as they continued in the church, one may fafely deny, that they were tofupply the want of force ; and it will lie upon ycu to prove it by fome other way than by faying you think it Bigh^ probable. For I fuppofe you do not exped: that your thinking any thing highly probable; fhould be a fufficient reafon for others to acquiefce in, when perhaps, the hiftory of miracles confidered, no body could bring himfelf to fay he thought improbable, but one whofe hypothefis flood in need of fuch a poor fupport. The other reafen you feem to build on is this, that when Chrijlianity was received for the religion of the empire, miracles ceafed ; becaufe there was then no longer any need of them: which I take to be the argument infinuated F. 37 in thefe words, Confidering that thofe extraordinarymeans were not withdrawn till by their help Chrijlianity had prevailed to be received for the religion vf the empire. If then you can make it appear that miracles lafted^//^ Chrijlianity was received for the- religion of the empire-, without any other rea- fon for their continuation, hut tgfupplytbewant of the magijirate s ajfjlance ; and that they ceafed. as foon as the mag-iflrates became Chriftians j your ar- gument will: have fome kind of probability, that within the Roman empire this was the. method God ufed for the propagating the Chriftian religion"; But it will not ferve to make good.)rour pofition. That the Chriflian religion cannot fubfift and prevail by its own Jirengt hand light, without the qjpjiance of .miracles or authority, unlefs you can (hew, that God made ufe of miracles to introduce and fupport it in other parts of the world, not fubjedi to the Ro- man empire,, till the magiftrates there -alfo became Chrifl:ians. For the corruption of nature being the fame without, as within the bounds of the Roman empire;, miracles, upon your hypothefis, were as necefTaiy to fup"- ply the want of thetnagiftrates afiiftance in other countries as in- the Roman empire. For I do not think you, will find the «wyy6^er«^«j were the firft converted- in all, thofe countries^ where the Chriftian religion was planted • ;after Co/ifiantine's reignv.:, and in altthofe it will be neeefTary for you to fhew us the affiflance oi miracles . • Rut let us fee how much your hypothefis is favoajed by church -hiftery^ If th?. writings of the. fathers ; of greateft name and.credit are to be b^lievedi, miraclesi A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 317 miracles were not withdrawn when Chrijiianiiy hckd prevailed to be received for the religion of the empire. Athanafius,, the great defender of the catholic orthodoxy, writ the life of his contemporary St. Anthony ^ full of miracles j, which though fome have queftioned, yet the learned T>odnaell allows to be writ by Athanqfius : and the ftile evinces it to be his, which is alfo con^- firmed by other ecclefiaftical writers. Palladius tells us. That Ammon did many miracles. : hut that particularly St. Athznafius j-^elated in the life of Anthony, that Ammon going with f me monks Anthoay had fent to him, when they came to- the river Lycus, which they were to pafs, was afraid to Jirip for fear of feeing himfelf naked ; and whilji he was in difpute cf this matter, he was taken up, arid in an extafy car- ried over by an angel, the reji of the monks fwimming the river. When he came /(? Anthony, Anxhony told him he had fent for him, becaufe God had revealed many things to him concerning him, and particularly his tranjlat.ion. And when Ammon died, in his retirement, Anthony y2zi« his foul carried inta heaven by angeh. Palladius in vita Ammonis. Socrates tells us. That Anthony, faw Ahe foul, of Ammon, taken up byangelsi, L.imie.235 as Athanafius writes in the life of Anxhony. And again, fays he. It feems fuperfluous for me to. relate the many miracles L. i, c-ai. Anthony did; how he fought openly with devils, difcovering all their tricks and cheats : for Athanafius bijhop o/" Alexandria has prevented me on thatfubjedl, having writ a book particularly of his life. Anthony was thought worthy of the v'tfon cf God, and led a IfeperfeSily conformable to the laws of Chriji. Tlhis., whoever reads the hook, wherein is. contained the hijiory of his life, will eafily know, wherein he will aljk fee pro- phecy Jhining out :: for he prophefed very clearly of thofe who were infeSled with' the Arian contagion, and foretold what mifahief from them was threatned ts the churches, God truly revealing all thefe things to him, which- is. certainly, the prin- cipal evidence of the-catholic. faith, nofuch man being to be found amongst the he- retics. But do not take this, upon my word, but read and fiudy the book itfelf This account you have from Stv Chryfojiom,. whom Mr; Dodwell. calls the ChryfBM contemner of fables. Hom. 8, iiu St. Hierom, in his treatife DeviroperfeSic, fpeaks of the frequency, of mi- "" "" racles done in his time, as a thing paft queftion.: befides thole,, not a few which; he has left upon record, in the lives of Hilarioin and.Paul, two monksj wfeofe lives he has writ. And he that.has a mind to fee the plenty of miracles of this, kind, need but read the colledion of the lives of the fathers, made by Rofweydus. Riiffin tells us. That Athanqfius lodged the bones of St-, fohm Baptif. in tha wall of the church, knowing by the fpirit of prophecy, the good they were to do. to the next generation : and; pf what efficacy and ufe they were, may be concluded from the church with thegoldeii roof,, built to theihfooa after, in. jKe place of the temple of Seraph, Stt. 3i8 : A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION Coecum illumina- St. Aufitn tells US, That lie knew a blind man refiorei to fight by the b^Ses tumfuifTe jam no- ^ the Milan martyrs, andfomt other fitch things \ cf 'which kind there •were fa veram. Nee ea ^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^ fvaped his knmokdge ; md tbofe which he quae cognolcimus, , •' , , i r •' ^ ■» *• r \ • r t^ -n' enumerare pofiu- Ktie^,_^ivere more, than be could number. Mare oi thts you may ice £/»y/i wius. Aug. Re- I37» uadt. lib, I, c. 13 He further affures us, that by the fingle reh'ques of St. Stephen, a blind 'woman recei-ued hit fight. 'Lyxtulhiswascuredbfanotdfyhcla; Eucharius ^ thejlone ; three gouty men recovered; a lad killed with a cart-'wheel going over him, rejiored to lifefafe and found, as if he had received no hurt : a nun lying at the point of death, they fmt her coat to the Jhrine, but fhe dying before it •was brought back, was refiored to life by. its being laid on her dead body. 'The like happened at Hippo to the daughter of Bassus ; and two others, whofe names he fets down, were by the lame reliques raifedfrom the dead. After thefe and other particulars there fet down, of miracles done in his time by thofe reliques of St-. Stephenf the holy father goes on thus ; What fhall Ido f prejfed by my promife of difpatchmg this work, I cannot here fet down all : and 'without doubt many., when they Jhall read this, will be troubled Quae utique me- that I have omitted fo many particulars, which they truly know as well as I, cum fciunt. Vot if I fhould, pafiing by the reft, write only the miraculous cures which have been wrought by this moft glorious martyr Stephen, in the colony of Cdhxaa., and this of ours, I Jhould fill many books, and yet Jhould not take in all of them: but Libelli dati funt. only of thofe ofwhich_ there are colleSiions publijhed, which are read to the people : Cum videremus fir tMs Itookcoirejhould be done, when Ifaw thatfigns of divine power, like antiquis fimilia di- thofe ofold. Were FREQUENT alfo in our times. It is not now two years fines vinarum figna vir- f^^f Jkrine has been at Hippo : and many of the books, which I certainly knew Tem^mlhushs- "^ ^^ befo, not being publiftoed, thofe 'which are publijhed concerning thofe miracu- quentari. Aug. lous Operations, amounted to near fifty when I writ this. But at Calama, de Civ. Dei, lib. where thisjhrinp was before, there are more publijhed, and their number is in^ c. 8 comparably greater. At U^al alfo a colony, and near Utica, we know many fa' mous things to have been done by the fame martyr. Two of thofe books he mentions, are printed in the Appendix of the tenth tome of St. Auftin& works of Plantin's edit. One t)f therai contains two miracles ; the other, as I remember, about feventeen. So that at Hippo alone, in two years time, we may count, befides thofe omitted, there were publifhed above ,600 miracles, and, as he fays, incomparably more zt Calama : befides what were done by other reliques of the fame St. Stephent in other parts of the world, which cannot be fuppofed to have had lefs vir- tue than thofe fent to this part oi Africa. For the reliques of St. Stephen^ difcovered by the dream of a monk, were divided and fent into diftant coun-^. tries, and there diftributed to feveral churches. Thefe may fuffice to fhew, that if the fathers of the church of greateft name and authority are to be believed, miracles were not withdrawn, but continued down to the latter end of the fourth century, long after Chrifiiam- ty had prevailed to be received for the religion of the entire. But XXII, A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 319 But if thefe teftlmonies of Athan&fius, Ghryfijiom, Palladius, Ruffin, St. Mie" rom, and St. Aujiint will not ftrve your turn, you may find much more to this purpofe in the fame authors -, and, . if you pleafe, you may confult alfo Sti Bt0, Gregory Nazianzen, Gregory Nyjfm^ St. Ambrofe., St. Hilary, X^* odoreti and others. This being fo, you muft either deny the authority of thefe fathers, or grant that miracles continued in the church after Chrifiianity was received for the. religion of the empire : and then they could not be' to fupply the want of the magijirate's ajijiance, unlefs they were to fupply the want of what was not wanting J and therefore they were continued for fome other end. Which end of the continuation of miracles, when you are fo far inftru<3:ed in as to fee able to affure us, that it was different from that for which God made ufe of them in the iecond and third centuries : when you are fo far admitted in- to the fecrets of Divine providence, as to be able to convince the world that the miracles between the Apoftlea and Cvnjiantine's time, or any other period you fhall pitch on, were to fupply the want of. the nmgifirates ajjiji" tinc€, and thofc after, for fome other purpofe, what you fay may de- ferve to be considered. Until you do this, you will only fhevs^ the li- berty you take to ailert with great confidence, though without any ground, whatever will fute your fyftem j and that you do not ftick to make bold with the counfels of infinite wifdom, to make them fubfervient to your hypothefis. ■ And fo I leave you to difpofe of the credit of ecclefiaftical writers, as you fhall think fit -, and by your authority to eftablifh, or invalidate theirs as you pleafe. But this, I think, is evident, that he who will build his faith or reafonings upon miracles delivered by church- hiftorians, will findcaufe to go- no farther than the Apoflles time, or elfe not to flop at Conjiantine'% : fince the writers after that period, whofe word we readily take as unqueftiojtiable in other things, fpeak of miracles in their time with no lefs affurance, than the fathers before the fourth century ; and a great part of the miracles of the fecond and -third centuries ftand upon the credit of the writers of the fourth. So that that fort of argument which takes and rejeds the teftimony of the ancients at pleafure, as.may beft fute with it, will not have much force with thofe who. are not . difpofed to imbrace the hypothefis, without any argu- ments at all. You grant, That the true religion has always light and Jlrength of its own,'P'. 7 i. e. without the afjijiance of force or miracles, fufficient. to prevail with all that tonfider itferioujly^ and without prejudice : That therefore, for which the af- fiftance offeree is wanting, is to make men confider ferioufy, and without pre- judice. Now whether the miracles that we have ftill, miracles done by Chrift and his Apojftles, attefted, as they are, by undeniable hiftory, be not fitter to deal with mens prejudices, than force, and than force which requires nothing but outward conformity, I leave the world to judge. All the affift- , ance the true religion needs from authority, is only a liberty for it, to be truly taught i but it has feldom had that, from the powers in being, in its 32Q A, THIRD ^LETTER FOR TOLERATION^ f^rft. entry iato tljeir dominions, fince the withdrawing of miracles : and yet I defire you'to tell me, into what country the Gofpel, accompanied, a$ now it is, only witli part: miracles, hath been brought by the preaching of men, who have laboured in it after the example of the Apoftles, where it did not fo prevail over mens prejudices, that as many as were ordained, to eternal life, confidered and believed it. Which, as ,ypu may. fee, A£is XIII, 48, was all the advance it made, even when affifled with the gift Qi miracles : for neitlier then were all, or the majority wrought on to confider, and imbrace it. /. But yet the Gofpel cannot prevail by its onion light andfirengtb ', • and there* fore miracles were to fupply the place of force. How was force ufed?. ;A law being made, there was a continued application of puniihment. to all thofe whom it brought not to imbrace the dodtrine propofed. Were mi^ rgcles &i ufed till force took place ? For this we {hall want more new church-? h|iftoiy, and I think contrary to what we read in that part of it which is unr que^ionable ; I mean in xh^ ASts of the Apojiles, where we fhall find, that the then promulgators of the Gofpel, when they had preached, and done what miracles the Spirit of . God directed, if they prevailed not, they often left them : Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and/aid it was necefary that the word of Godjhouldfrji have been fpoken to you : but feeing you put it from you, and, judge yOurf elves unworthy^, we turn to the Gentiles. ASis-Xiii, 46. They Jhook off the duji of their feet againji them, and came unto Iconium. A^s XIII, 5 1^ But when divers were hardened, and believed not, but fpake evil of that way before the multitude, he departed from them, and feparated the dif- cipks. ASls XVI III, 9. Paul was prejjed in fpirit, and tefitfied to the Jewj{ that fefus was Chriji; and when they oppofed themfelves, and blafphemedi>hs Jhook his raiment, and faid unto them, Tour .blood be upon your own heads, I am ^clean, from hehceforth I will go unto the Gentiles. ASis xviii, 6. Did the Chriftian magiftrates ever do fo, who thought it neceffary to fupport the Chriftian religion by laws ? Did they ever, when they had a while punifhed thofe, whom perfuafions and preaching had not prevailed on, give off, and leave them to themfelves, and make trial of their puni{hment upon others ? Or is this your way of force and punifhment ? If ^t be not, yours is not what miracles came to fupply the room of, and fo is not neceffary. For you tell us, they are puniflied to make them' confider, and they can never be fup- P. 24, 25pofed to confider as they ought, whilft they perfijl in rejeSiing; and therefore they are juftly puniflied to make them fo confider : fo that not fo, confidering, being the fault for which they are punifhed, and. the amendment of , .that fault the end which is defigned to be attained by punifhing, the puniihment muft continue. But men were not always beat upon with miracles.. To this, perhaps you will reply, that the feeing of a miracle or two, or half a dozen, was fufficient to pKocure a hearing; but that being punifhed once or P 06 twice, or half a dozen times, is not; for you tell us, ^'^ power of miracles communicated to the Apojiles, ferved altogether, as .well as punifhment^ to procure them a hearing: wherfi, if you mean by hearing, only attention, who A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 3a I who doubts but punifliment may alfo procure that ? If you mean by hearing, receiving and imbracing what is propofed, that even miracles themfelves did not cfFeft upon all eye-witneffes. Why then, I befeech you, if one be to fupply the place of the other, is one to be continued on thofe v^^ho do rejeSf when the other was never long continued, nor, as I think we may fafely fay, often repeated to thofe, who perfifted in their former perfuafions ? After all therefore, may not one juftly doubt, whether miracles fupplied the place of punifhment j nay, whether you yourfelf, if you be true to your own principles, can think fo? You tell us, that not to pin themfelves to the?. 25 true church, where fufficient evidence is offered to convince men that it isfo, is . a fault that it cannot be unjuji to punijh. Let me afk you now ; did the Apo- ftles by their preaching and miracles, dS^rfuffcient evidence to convince men that the church of Chrift was the true church ; or, which is, in this cafe, the fame thing, that the doftrine they preached was the true religion ? If they did, were not thofe, who perfifted in unbelief, guilty of a. fault ? And if fome of the miracles done in thofe days, fhould now be repeated, and yet men fhould not imbrace the dodirine, or join themfelves to the church which thofe miracles accompanied, would you not think them guilty of z fault, which the magiftrate inight juftly, nay, ought to punijh? If you would anfwer truly and fincerely to this queftion, I doubt you would think your be- loved puniftiments neceflkry notwithftanding miracles, there being no other human means left. I do not inake this judgment of you from any ill opinion I have of your good nature, but it is confonant to your principles : for if not profefling the true religion, where fufficien* evidence is offered by bare preaching, he a fault, znd a fault jujlly to be punijhed by the mzgidrsite, you will certainly think it much more his duty to punifti a greater fault, as you muft allow it is, to rejeft truth propofed with arguments and miracles, than with bare arguments ; fince you tell us, that the magiftrate is obliged to fro- P. 77 cure, as much as in him lies, that every man take care of his own foul, i. e. con- fder as he ought ; which no man can befuppofed to do, whilji he perfjis in re^ jeBing: as you tell us, ^.24. Miracles, fay you, fupplied the want of force, till by their help Chriflianity had prevailed to be received for the religion of the empire. Not that the ma- giftrates had not as much commiffion then, from the law of nature, to ufe force, for promoting the true religion, as fince : but becaufe the magiftjates then, not being of the true religion, did not afford it the aflaftance of their political power. If this be fo, and there be a neceflity either oi force or mi- racles, will there not be the fame reafon for miracles ev€r fince, even to this day, and fo on to the end of the world, in all thofe countries where the ma- giftrate is not of the true religion ? Unlefs, as you urge it, yon will fay, what A, p. 16 without impiety cannot be f aid, that the wife and benign Difpojer of all things, has not furnijhed mankind with competent means for the promoting his own ho- nour in the world, and the good of fouls. But to put an end to your pretence to miracles, as fupplying the place of force. Let me afk you, whether fince the withdrawing of »2zrai:/?j, your * T t moderate A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION .njoderate degree of force has been made ufe of, for the fupport of the Chrif- tian religion ? If jnot, then miracles were not made ufe of to fupply the want offeree, unlefs it were for the fupply of fuch force as Chriflianity ne- ver had, which is for the fupply of juft no force at all ; or elfe for the fup- ply of the feverities which have been in ufe amongft Chriftians, which is worfe than none at all. Force, you fay, is necelT^ry : what force ? not fire andfworit not lofs of ejlat^s, not maiming with eorparal pumjhmmts, natfiam- ing and tormenting in noifi>me prifons : thofe you condemn. Not eompulftan : tbefe feverities, you fay, are apter to Mnder, than promote the true religiom; but nwderate lower penalties-, tolerable inconvenienciesy fuch as fhould a httk dJfiurk and difeafi men. This afliftance not being to be had frona the ma- gifl?ates, in the firft ages of Chrifti^nity, miracles, fay you, were continued till Chrijliantty beQome- the religion cf the empi^^, not fb much for any neipefity there was of them, all thqi. while, for the evincing the truth of the Chr-^ian re- ligion, as to fupply the. want of the magiftrates qffijiance. For the tru& reli- gion not being abh tofupport i^filf by its own light, andftrength,. without the qlJifhancA either of miracles; or (f ^thority, there was a neceflity of the ojos or the other J and therefore,; whilft the powers in being aflifled not with nece^ry force, miracles fuppjied that waat. Miracles then being to fup- ply ;\eceflary force, and neceflary force being only low^r moderate- pentdties, fome incpnveniencies, fuch- as only- difiurh mddfe^ife: a little ; if you cannot fliew that in all countries, where thi& magiftrates have been Chriftijan, they haste aflifted, with; fuch force, it is plain that miracles fuppli^d not the want of n£- ceffofy firce ; uijlefs to fupply 4be want of your nece&ry force, for a time, were to fupply the want of an affiftance, which true religion had. not upon the withdrawi-ng of miracles, and I think I may fay, vw'as never thought on by anyauthority, in any age or country, tilXyou now, above thirteen- hundred years. after, made this happy difqovery. Nay, Sir,- fi nee the true religion, as you tell us, cannot prevail ot; fubfift without mtriacksor authority, i. e. youc nioderate force ; it muftneceflarily follow, that the Chriftian religion has, in all ages and countries, been accompanied either with ajftual miracles, ok (uch force : v/hich, whether it be fo or no, Heave you and all fobermento c.onfid^r. When you, can fliew, that it has been fo, ^e fhall have reafon to be fatisfied with your bold aflertion : that the Chriftian religion, as deli- vered in the New Teftament, cannot prevail by its own light and ftrengthy without theafjifiance of your moderate penalties, or of ai^sual miracles accom- panying it. But if ever fince the withdrawing of miracles in all Chriftian: countries, where force has been thought neceffary by the magiftrate to fup- port the national, or, as every where it is called, the true religion, thofe fe- verities have been -made ufe of, which you, for a good reafon, condemn, as apter to hinder-, than promote the true religion ; it is plain that miracles fup- plied the want of fuch an afjiflanee from the magijirate, as was apter to hin^' der, than promote the true religion. And your fubftituting of miracles, ta fupply the want of moderate force, will fhew nothing, for your caufe, but the zeal of a man fo fond of forCCj,, that he wiU without any warrant from Scripture, A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 523 Scripture, enter Into the Cdunfels of the Almighty ; and without atitfiority from hiftory, talk of miracles, and political adminiftrations, as rnay bed fuit his fyftem. . To my laying, a religion that is from God, wants riot the affiftailice of human authority to make it prevail ; you anfwer. This is riot Jimply nor al- p. g ways true. Indeed when God takes the matter 'wholly intd his awn hands, as he does at hisjirfi revealing any religion, there can be no need of any affijlance of human authority : but when God has once fuficiently fettled his religion in thi world, fo that if men front thenceforth will do what they may and ought, in their feveral capacities , to preferve and propagate it, it may fubfijt and prevaii without that extraordinary ajjijlancefrom him, which wds nece'ff'afy for itsfirji efaihjhment. By this rule of yOurs, how long was there need of miracles- to make Chriftianity fubfifl and prevail ? If you will keep to it, you will' find there was no need of miracles, after the promulgation of the Gofpel by Chrift and his Apoftles ; for I afk you, was it not then ibfufficiently fettled in the world, that if men would from thenceforth have done what they might and ought, in their feveral capacities, it would have fubfifted and prevailed without that extraordinary ajjiflance of miracles ? unlefs you will on this oc- cafion retradt what you fay in other places, viz. that it is a fault not to re- ceive the true religion, where fuficient evidence is offered to convince men that it isfo. If then, from the times of the Apoftles, the Chriftian religion has had fufficient evidence that it is the true religion, and men did their duty, i. e. receive it, it would certainly have fubfifted and prevailed, even from the Apo- ftles times, without that extraordinary affiftance, and then miracles after that were not neceflary. But perhaps you will fay, that by men in their feveral capacities, you mean the magiftrates. A pretty way of fpeaking, proper to you alone : but even in that fenfe, it will not ferve your turn. For then there will be heed of miracles, not only in the time you propofe, but in all times after. For if the magiftrate, who is as much fubjedt as other men to that corruption of human nature, by which you tell us falfe religions prevail againft the true, fliould not do what he may and ought, fo as to be of the trtie religion, as it is the odds he will not; what then will become of the true religion, which according to you cannot fubfift- or prevail without either the ajfijiance' of mi- racles or authority ? Subjeds cannot have the. ajijiance of authority, where the magiftrate is not of the true religion; and the magiftrate wanting the ajjiji-i ance of authority to bring him to the true religion, that want muft be ftill fupplied with miracles, or elfe, according to your hypotbefis, all muft go ta wreck ; zndthe true religion', that cannot fubfift by its own ftrength and light i muft: be loft in the world. For, I prefume, you are fcarce yet fuchan adorer of the powers of the world, . as to fay, that magiftrates are privileged from' that common corruption of mankind, whofe oppofition to the true religion you fuppofe cannot be overcome, without the ajjifia^ice of miracles or force. The flock will ftray, unlefs the bell-weather conduifl them' right; the bell- weather himfelf will ftray, unlefs the ftiepherd's crook and ftaiF, which he T t 2 has 3H A THIRD LETTER FOR TTOLER ATJ[ON#> has as, l^f^;,uchinee!d,^®f as any fheep of the flock, keep him jrighttj ^rgea th©'.- whole flock will ftray, unlefs the bell- weather have that afliftancewhkh is, neceflary to conduft him right. The cafe is the fame here. So that by your own rule, either there was no need of miracles to fupply the want of force, after the Apoftles time, or there is need of them ftil). , But your anfwer, when looked into, has fomething in it more excellent. 1 fay, a religion that is of God, wants not the affiftance of human authority to make it prevail. You anfwer, True, when God takes the matter into his -own hands. But when once he has fufficiently fettled religion, fo that if men will but do what they may and ought, it may fubfif without that extraordinary ^ffijiance from heaven j then he leaves it to their care. Where you fuppofe, if men will do their duties in their feveral capacities, true religion, being once ^ftabliflied, may fubfift without miracles. And is it not as true, that if they _will, in their feveral capacities, do what they may and mght, true religioni will.alfa fubfift without force ? But you are fure magiftrates, will Aq what they. may and ought, to preferve and propagate the true religion,, but fubje^s, will not. ,Jf you are not, you muft bethink yourfelf how to anfwer that oldqueiftion. — — Sed quis cujlodiet ipfos Cujlodes ? To my having faid, that prevailing without the affiftance of force, 1 thought was made ufe of as an argument for the truth of Chriftian reli- "3>. 5 gion. You reply, that you hope I am mijlaken, for fure this is a very bad < argument. That the Chrtjiian religion, fo contrary in the nature of it, as well to, Jiefi) and blood; as to the powers ^fdarknefs, jbould prevail as it did^ and that not only without any qffijiance from authority, but even infpight of all the op-^ poftion which authority and a wicked world, joyned with thofe infernal powers, could make^ againji it. This, I acknowledge, has defervedly been injijled. upon 'by Chrijlians as a very, good proof of their religion. But to argue the truth ofihsr Chrifiian religion, from its mere prevailing in the world, without any aid from force, or the afifance of the powers in being i as if whatever religion JhouM fo prevail, mujl needs be the true religion, whatever may be intended, is really not to defend {he Chrijiian religion, but to betray it. How you have mended the argument by putting in mere, which is not any where ufed by me, I will not examine. The queftion is, whether the Chriftian religion, fuch as it was then, for I Jcnow not any other .Chriftian religion, and is ftill contrary to flejh and- blood, and to the powers of darknefs, prevailed not without the affiftance of human force, by thofe aids it has ftill ? This, I think, you will not deny to be an argument ufed for its truth by Chriftiaas, and fome of our church. How far any one in the ufe of this argumeat pleafes or difpleafes. you, I am not concerned. -All the ufe I made of it was to ftiew, that it is confeffed that the Chriftian religion did prevail, without that human means of the coa&ive power of the magi/Irate, which you affirmed to be neceJJ'aryi and this, I think, makes good the experiment I brought. Nor will youc . feeking. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION/ 325 feeking, your way, a refuge in miracles, help you to evade it; as I have alreaidy fliewn. - ' But you give a reafon for what you fay, in thefe'' following words ,• for 2, & neither does the true religion always prevail without the affificmce of the powers in being i nor is that always the true religion^ which does fo fpread and prevail'. Throfe who ufe the argument of its prevailing vpithout force, for the truth of the Chriftian religion, it is like will tell you, that, if it be true, as you fay ,^ that the Chriftian religion, which at other times does, fometimes does not prevail without the affiftance of the powers in being, it is, becaufe when i% fails, it wants the due affiftance and diligence of the minifters of it. Hefw Jh&ll they hear without a preacher f How ftiall the Gofpel be fjjread and pre- vail, if thofe who take on them to be the minifters and preachers of it, either negle have in a ilio^t time fcaree \^t a diflenter in a parifli* where, not^ withftapding the force had been before ufed, they fcaree ftiund any other, Bpt how far this has recomm,ended fach miniftcrs to thofe who ought to in- courage or follow the example, I wifti you woujd inform yourfelf, and th^ &;eTaft. ^ell me. But whq fees not that ajuftice of peace's warrant is a ihofter, and Care, p. 202 much eafier way for the miivfter, than aU this ^Q of inftrudlion, debates, and particular application. Whether itbie ajfo rnore Chriftian, or more ef- fe^ual to make real converts, others may be apt to inquire. ThiSj I am fure, it is not juftifiahle,, even by your very principles, to be ufed till the other has been throughly tried. How far our Saviour is like to approve of tjiis method in thofe whom -he fends ; what r-e^ward he is like to beftow on, minifters of his word, who are forward to bring their brethren under fuch corre or even to allt To this demand, our Saviour replies in thefe words. Who then, is that faith- ful and wife Jienvard:^ whom his lord JkaU make ruler over his houjhold, to give them their portion of meat in due feflfon ? Blejfed is that fervant whom, the Lord, when he comth, jhaMfwid Jo, doing. . Of a /ruth, Ifc^. unto you, he will majie him ruler over all that he katk. But,, and if that fervant fay in his heart t my- lord delay eth his coming y. andjhall hegin to beat the men-fer^ants, and mai-r dens, and to eat and drink, and to he dfunken : 'The, lord, of that-fervan^t will comfi in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour, when he is not awar-e ; and will, cut him infunder, and will appoint him his, portion with, unbelievers, qx with hypocrites, as, it is, iWa//f, xx 1^,51. But if tnere be any thing in the argument for the.truth.Qf Chriftianityi as God forbid there ftiould not, that it has, and confequfintly can prevail with-? out force, I think it can fcarqe Jbe true in matter of fa(5i. that falfe religions do alfo prevail againfl the Chriftian religion, when they come upon, equal terms in . competition ; and as much diligence and induftry is ufed; by th« teachers of it, as by feducers to falfe religions, the magiftrate ufing his force on neither fide. For if in this cafe, which is the fair trial, Chriftianity can prevail, and falfe religions too, it.is poiChk qoatrarieties may prevail ^ainft one A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 327 one another both together. TTo rtiake good therefore yout afiertidn, yoli muft fhew us, where ever any Other religion fo ipread and prevailed, as to drive Chriftian-ity out of any country without force, where the minifters of it did their duty to teach, adorn and fupport it. . As to the following words. Nor is that always the true religioti which does P. ^ fo fpread and prevail ; as I doubt not but you will aeknoisoledge with me, when you have but conjtdered within how few generations after the food, the worjhip offalfe Gods prevailed againfi that which Noah pfofeJJ'ed and taught his child- ren, which was undoubtedly- the true religion, almojl to the Utter exclufton of it, though that atfirfi was the only religion in the world, without any aid from force, or affiflance from the poavers in being. This will rteed fdmething more than a negative proof, as we fhallfee by and by. Where I fay, " The inventions of men need the forctf and help of men- : L. II, p. 70 ** a religion that is from God, wants not theaffiftance of human aathofity," The firft part of thofe words you take no notice of; neither grant nor deny it to be fo,. though perhaps it will prove a great part of the controverfy be- tween us. To my queftion, " Whether if fuch a Toleration as is pfoppfed by the *" Author of the Firft Letter, were eftabliflied in France, Spain^ Italy,' Por^ " tugal, etc. the true religion would not be a gainer by it ?" You anfwer^ That the trme religion would be a lofsr by it in thofe few places where it is now P. 8 ejlablifhed as the national religion ; and particularly ,- you' name England. It is then, it feems, by your way of moderate force and lower penalties, that in all countries where it is national, the tj?ue religion hath prevailed and fub- fifts. For the controverfy is between the Author's univerfal Toleration, and your new way oi force ; for greater degrees of force, you condemn as hurt- ful. Say then that in England, and wherever the true religion is national, it' has been beholden to your force for the advantages and fupport it has had, and I will yield youi the caufe. But of national religions', arid particularly that of England; I have occalion to fpeak more in another place. In the next place you anfwer. That yo\i fappofe I do not hope IJhall per-f, 9 Jkade the world to canfent to my toleration. 1 think by your logic, a propofi- tion. is not lefs true or falfe, becaufe the vvorld will or will not be perfuaded to Gonfent to it. And therefore, though it will not confent to a general To- leration, it may neverthelefs be true that it v/ould be advantageous to the true religion : and if no body muft" fpeak truth till he. thinks all the world will be perfuaded by it, you muft have a very good opinion of your oratory, or elfe you will have a very good excufe to turn your parfonage^ when yoi* have one, into a- fine-cure. But though I have not fo good an opinion of my gift of perfuafion, as perhaps youhave of yourSj yet Ithink I rrtay with- out any great" prefumption hope, that I may as foon perfuade England, the world, or any government in it, to confent to my Toleration, as you per- fuade it to content itfelf with moderate penalties. You farther anfwer, If fuch a Toleration eftablifhed there, would permit •the dodrincof the church. of £^^a;^i;/. to be truly preachedj and its Worfhipi. fet .32« A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION iet up in any Popifh, Mohammedain or Pagan eountrjr, you think true reli- P^ logion would be a gainer by it for d time ; but you think moithal, that an univer- Jal 'toleration would ruine it both there and every where elfe^ in the end. You grant it then poffible, notwithftanding the corruption of human nature, that the true religion may gain fomewhere, and for fome time, by Toleration : it wiir gain under anew Toleration you think, but decay under an old one; p. 9 would you had told us the reafon why you think fo. But you think there is great reafon to fear^ that without God's extraordinary providence, it would in a much Jhorter time, than any one, who does not well confider the matter, will imagine, be mojl effeBuatly extirpated by it throughout the world. If you have confidered right, and the matter be really fo, it is demonftration, that the Chriftian religion, fince C(?«/?fl»//i«5's time, as well as the true religion before Mofes'^ iivne, muft needs have been totally extinguifhed out of the; world, and have fo continued, unlefs by miracle and immediate revelation re- ftored. For thofe men, i. e. the magiftrates, upon whofe being of the true religion, the prefervation of it, according to you, depends, living all of them under a free Toleration, muft needs lofe the true religion effedtually and fpeedily, from among them -, and they quitting the true religion, the af- fiftance of force, which fliould fupport it againft a general defeftion, be ut- terly loft. The princes of the world are, I fuppofe, as well infected with the de- praved nature of man, as the reft of their brethren. Thefe, whether a hun- dred or a thoufSnd, fuppofe they lived together in one fociety, wherein, wi^ the true religion, there were a free Toleration, and no coaSlive power of the magiftrate imployed about matters of religion, would the true religion be foon extirpated amongft them ? If you fay it would not, you muft grant Toleration not to be fo deftru(3:ive of the true religion, as you fay j or you muft think them of! another race, than the reft of corrupt men, and free from that general taint. If you grant that the true religion would be quickly extirpated amongft them, by Toleration, living together in one fo- ciety, the fame will happen to them, living as princes, where they are free from all coaftive power of the magiftrate in matters of religion, and iaave as large a Toleration as can be imagined. Unlefs you will fay, that depraved human nature works lefs in a prince than a fubjedt ; and is moil tame, moft mortified, where it has meft liberty and temptation. Muft not then, if your maxini be true, Toleration quickly deprive the few orthodox princes that are in the world, take it when you will, of the true religion j and with them, take away the affiftance of authority, which is neceffary to fupport it amongft their fubjedts? Toleration then does not, whatever your fears are, make that woful wreck on true religion which you talk of. I ftiall give you another evidence of it, and then come to examine your great reafon taken from the corruption of human nature, and the inftance you fo often repeat, and build fo much on, the apojiacy after the food. Tole- ration, you fay, would quickly, and effeSiually extirpate the true religion throughout the world. What now is the means to preferve true religion in the A THIRD XETTER FOR TOLERATION 349^ the world ^ If you may be believed, it is force, but not all force, great fe- verities, fire, faggot, imprifonment, lofs of eftate, etc. Thefe will do more harm than good j it is only /dwer and moderate penalties, fame tolerable incon- veniences, can do the bufinefs. If then moderate force hath not been all along, no, nor any where, made ufe of for the prefervation of the true religion, the maintenance and fupport of the true religion in the world, has not been ow- ing to what you.oppofe to Toleration : and fo your argument againft Tole- ration is out of doors. : ■ You give us in this and the foregoing pages, the grounds of your Jear, it is the corruption of human nature which oppofes the true religion. You ex- prefs it thn^v Idolatry prevailing againjl it [the true religionj- not by its own P. 7 -'iightlandjirength, for it could have nothing of either, but merely by the ad- wantage it had in the corruption and pravity of human nature, finding out to it f elf more agreeable religions than the true. For, fay you, •whatevS'ri- hard- Jhips fome falfe: religions may inipofe, it will however, always be eajier to carnal and worldly-minded men, to give even their firji-born for their' tranfgrejjions, iban to mortify their lujis from which they Jpring, which no religion > but the true, % requires of them, . I wonder, faying this, how you could any longer miftake the magiftrate's duty, in reference to religion, and not fee wherein force truly can and ought to be ferviceable to it. What you have faid, plainly fhews you, that the afliftance the magiftrate's authority can give to the true religion, is in the fubduing of lufts, and its being direfted againft pride, injuftice, rapine, luxury and debauchery, and thofe other immoralities which come properly under his coguifance, and may be corredled by pu- niftiments ; and not by the impofing of creeds and ceremonies, as you tell us. Sound 2SiA decent, you might have left, out, whereof their fancies, and not P. 13. the law of God, wiU always be judge, and confequently the rule. ' The cafe between the true and falfe religions, as you have ftated it, in fliort, founds thus, 7r«^ religion, has always light and Jirength of its own, p. j -fttfficient to< prevail with all that ferioufy- confider- it, and "Without prejudice, idolatry, or falfe religions have nothing of light or Jirength to prevail with. Why then does not the true religion prevail againft the falfe, having'fo much the advantage in light and ftrength ? The counter-balance of prejudice hin- ders. rAnd wherein does that confift ? The drunkard muft part with his cups and companions, and the voluptuous man with his pleafures. The proud and vain muft lay by all excefs in apparel, furniture and attendance j and money, the fupport of all thefe, muft be got only by the ways of juftice, honefty, and. fair. induftry : .and every one muft Uve peaceably, uprightly, and friendly with his neighbour. Here then the magiftrate's afliftance is want- ing : here they may and ought to interpofe their power, and by feverities againft drunkennefs, lafcivioufnefs, and all forts of debauchery ; by a fteady and unrelaxed puniftiment of all the ways of fraud and injuftice; and by -their adminiftration,' countenance, and example, reduce the irregularities of .mens manners into order, and bring fobriety, peaceablenefs, induftry and ho- , Eefty.into fafhion. This is their proper bufinefs everywhere ; and for -this X U u they 33© A .THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION they have a cdmmiffion from God, both by the light of nature and revelsi- tion i and by this, removing the great couaterpoife, which lies in ftrisftoefs of liie, and is fo Arong a bias, with the greateft part, a^iofl the true rdigion, they wtMild caft the balance on that fide. For if moa were forced by •the magiftrate to live fober, honeft ami £lri(£b lives» whatever their rehgion were, would not the 'advantage be on the fide of truth, when, the gratifying of their lufts were not to be obtained by'foriaking her ? In mens lives lies the main obftacle to right opinions in religion : and if yoo wiU not heKeve mcj yet what a very rational man of the church. q£ Exghmi iJiys in the cafe, [Dr. Benfkjtr in his fermon of thefdhji of atkeifiAt p. i6^J vdU deferve to be remembred. Jyid reUgmt b^a'w keaven, teii&aut emy farms: and cofmimar, indifferentfy upon alh, ^ the crown eflifs was bereikaryt anAfire& U gosd and Jfadt and not fettled by eo-uenant upon the ekB of Gadmrlji, facb as live foberlyi righteoufly and godly in this prefent world ; IbeUexit there wmdd be. no fuck tking (^ an infidd among us. j^xd without eontravtrfy it. is the wa^ and means g/" attmrning to heaven^ that makes prefansf coffers fa willing to let ga the expee- tation of it. It is net the articles of the ereed^ but their duty ta God aitd their peigbbowrt, thmt is fitch an inconfi^nt: incredible legend. They will not praBift the rules ofreiigionty and ther^orethey cannot believe the do&ines of it. The in- jgenious author will pardon me the daange of one word, which I doubt not but fuits his opinion, though it did not fo weH that argument he was then on. You gjant the troe religio© has always tight, andjirength ta preaaii ; falfe veligions hofve neither. . Take away thciatisfeftioa of mens luftsi, and whkh then, I pray, hath the ad^^tage ? Will men, againft the light of their rea- fon,vdo violence to their underf^dings, and forfake truth, and falvation too* gratis f You tell us here. No religion but the true requires of men the difiicuh talk of mortifying their ktfis. This being granted you, what fervice will this do yOu to prove a neceffity of force to punifli all diilenters in Enghlid f Do none of their religions require the mortifying of lufts as well as yours i x And now, let us confider your inftance whereon you build forauchi that p. 7 we hear of it over and over again. For you tdl us, Iddatry prevailed^ but P. loy^t n&t by the help of force, as has been fi^cientlyjhewn. And again. That truth Irft to Jhift for herfrlf will not do well enough, has been fufftdentfy'Jhewn. What p. 6 you have done to fliew this,, is to be feen, where you tell us, Withiti hemfewge- nerations after the flood, the worjhip of falfe Gods prevailed againfl the religion which Nodb pr(feffed, and taught bis children, f which was undoubtedly the true religion) almafl to the utter exclmfbn of ity f though that at firfi was the only religion in the nxiorld) without arxy aid from force, or theaffifiance of the powers in being, for any thing we find in the bifinry of thofe times, as we may reafinabfy.be- lieve,cenfidering that it found, an entrance into the world, and entertainment in it t when it could ha-ve no fitch aid, or affiance. Of which fbefides the corricpticm ef human nature J yo\x fupp(fe there can no other cattfe be qfigned, or none more frobable than this, that the powers then in being, did not d& what they ndgkt and ought to have done, towards the preventing or cheeking that horrible apof- tacy. Here you tell us, that the nmtfiiip of falfe Gods, within a^very fewge- . orations A THIRD LETTER FOR TO3LERATIi0N nerathm nfterihejlo^ prevailed againfi the true religion, -abnoft to the utter exclufivn^cfit. Tins yoa fay indeed, but without any proofs ; and unlefs that hc^ewing, you have not, as you pretend, any vn^y Jhewn it. Out of what records, I befeech you, have you it, that the true religion was eimqfl whdfy extirfiaieii out of the world, within a few generations after the flood ? Tile Scripture, the lai^eft hiftory we have of thofe times, fays nothing of it j nor does, as I remember, mention any as guilty of idoktry, within two or three hundred years after the flood. In Canaan itfelf, I do not think that you can out of any credible hA&ory Jhew, that there was any idolatry within ten or twelve generatic&is after Isfoah j much lefs that it had fo over^read the wodd, and extirpated the true religion, out of that part of it, where the fcene lay ai thofe aftions jecorded in the hiftory of the Bible. In Abraham & 'time, Mdctyideck who was king of Salem, was alio the prieft of the moft high God. We read that God, with an immediate hand, puniflied miracu- loufly, £rft mankind, at the confufion of Babel, and afterward Sodom, and four other cities j but in neither of thefe places is there any the leaft men- tion of idolatry, by which tkey provoked God, and drew down yengeance on themfelves. So that truly you have Jhenaa nothing at all, and what the Scripture Jhenas is againft you. For fcefides, that it is plain by Melchifede^k. the Magof -Salem, and prieft of the moft high God, to whom Abraham paid tithes, that all the land of Canaan was not yet overfpread with idolatry, though afterwards in the time of J>ejhua, by the forfeiture was therefore made of it to the IfrM-lites, one may have reafon to fufpe more of them in v^/j6^«j, a city' wholly given to idolatry. For that thofe iBSof^evot which we tranflate devouii and whereof many are mentioned in the ^t^j, were Gentiles, whowor- ihjipped the true God, and kept the precepts of Noah, Mr. Mede has abuur dantly proved. So that whatfoever you, who have well confidered the matter, . -niay imagine of the fhortnefs of time, wherein Noah's religion would be ef feEluCdly extirpated throughout the wor/c/, without the affiftance of force, we find it at Athens, at Philippi, at Corinth, amongft the i?(j/«tf«j-, in Antioch of Pifdia, in 'Theffhlonica, above two thoufand years after, and that not fo near • rbeing extinguifhed, but that in fome of thofe places the profefibrs of it were numerous ; at Theffhlonica they are called 2i great multitude : at Antioch many: and how many of them there were in other parts of the world, whereof there was no occafion to make mention in^ that fliort hiftory of the ABs of the Apojiles, who knows ? If they anfwered, in other places, to what were found in thefe, as what reafon is there to fuppofe they fliould not? I think ,-we m.zy imagine them to be as many, as there were effeitually of the true re- ligion Chriftians in ^■Europe, a little before the reformation, notwithftanding ihe afliiiance the Chriflian religion had from authority, after the withdraw- ing of miracles. But you have a falvo, for you write warily, and indeavour to fave your- !*■ 9 felf on, all hands J you fay, There is great reafon to fear, that without God's EXTRAORDINARY p R o v I D E N c F , it would in a much jhorter time, than any o,ne, who does not well conftder the matter, would imagine, be moji effec^^ tually extirpated. by it, throughout the world. It is without doubt, the provi- dence of God which governs the affairs both of the world and his church j and to that, whether you call it ordinary or extraordinary, you may truft the prefervation of his church, without the tife of fuch means, as he has no where; appointed or authorized. You fancy force neceflary to pj-eferve the true religion, and. hence you conclude the magiftrate authorized^ withoat any farther cpmmiffipn from God, to ufe it, if there be no other means left ; and therefore that muft be ufed : if religion fhould be preferved without it, it is by the extraordinary providence of God; where extraordinary £\^VL\iis,s no- thing, hut hedging the thing in (jueftion. The true religion has h^h pre^ ferved A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION ^3^ felfved many ages, in the church,' without force. Ay, fay you, that Was by the extraordinary providence of God. His providence which over-rules all events, we eafily grant it : but why extraordinary providence? ' beeaufe force was necej'ary to preferve it. And why was force necejfary? beeaufe other- W'ife, without extraordinary providence, it cannot be preferved. In fuch circles, covered under good words, but mifapplied, one might fhew you taking many a turn in your anfwer, if it were fit to wafte others time to trace your wanderings. God has appointed preaching, teaching, perfuafion, inftruftion, as a means to continue and propagate his true religion in the world J and if it were any where preferved and propagated without that, we might call it his extraordinary providence ; but the means he has appointed being ufed, we may conclude, that men have done their duties, and fo may leave it to his providence, however we will call it, to preferve the little flock, which he bids not to fear, to the end of the world. But let us return again to what you fay, to make good this hypothefis of yours. That idolatry entred firft into the world by ihe contrivance, and Ipreaditfelf by the indeavours of private men, without the affiftance of the rhagiftrates, and thofe in power. To prove this, you tell us, "That it found?. B^ Entrance into the world, and entertainment Jn it, when it could have no fuch aid or afjifiance. When was thisj I befeech you, that idolatry found this entrance into the world ? Under what king's reign was it, that you are fo pofitive it could have no fuch aid or ajijlance? If you had named the time, the thing,, though of no great moment to you, had been fure. But now we may very jiiftly qufeftion this bare aflertion of yours. For fince we find, as far back as we have any hiftory of it, that the great men of the world were always for^ ward to fet up and promote idolatry and falfe religions,- you ought to have given us fome reafon why, without authority from hiftory, you afiirm that idolatry, at its entrance into the world, had not that affiftance from men iij power, which it never failed of afterwards. Who they were that made Jf- rael to fin, the Scripture tells us. Their kings were fo zealous promoters of idolatry, that there is fcarce any one of them, that has not that brand left upon him in holy writ. One of the firft falfe religions, whofe rife and way of propagating we liave an account of in faered hiftory, was by an ambitious ufurper, wha, having rebelled againft his mafter, with a falfe title fet up a falfe religion, tofecure his power and dominion. \V^hy this might not have been done before fero~ boam's days, and idols fet up at other places, as well as at Dan ^^6. Bethel, to ferve politic ends, will need fome other proof, than barely faying, \i could not be fo at firft. The Devil, unlefs much more ignorant, was not lefe bufy ir> thofe days to ingage princes in his favour, and to weave religioa into affairs of ftate, the better to inn-oduce his worftiip, and fupport idolatry, by accom- modating it to the ambition, vanity, or fuperftition, of, men in power: and therefore, you may as well fay, that the corruption of human nature, as that the ajjifiance of the powers in being, did not, in thofe days, help forward falfe -jreligionsr^ecaufe your reading hasfurniihed you with naparticiilar mentioa 334 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION P. 6 pfit out of hiftofy* But you need but fay, that the 6 and the entertainment it found in it, wilt not pafs for fo very evident, without proof, though you tell us never £b confidently, that you JUp^pofe, beftdes the corrupiiam of' human natwe, there can no other eauje be q^gned of it, or none morepps^ik than this, that the^ powers then in being, did not what they might md Qtsght to hanx done, i. e. if you mean it to your porpofey ufe force your Way, to make men confider, or- to imp&fe creedi and ways ofw^rfiip, towards the frevmfing that horvibie afofiacy. I grant that the entrance anid growth of idolatry, might be owing to the negligence of the fowers in being, in that they did not do- what they might and ought to have done, in ufing their authority to fupprefs the enormities of men-s nuanners, and correct the irregularity of their Iwes. But this was not all the afliftance they gave to that h^rriik' apoftaey : they were, as far as hiftory gives- us any light, the promoters of it, and leaders in it, and did what they ought not to have done, by fctting up falfe religions, and ufing- their authority to eftablifh them, to ferre their corrupt and ambitious defigns. National religions, eflrabliflied by authority, and inforced by the powers in being, we hear of every where, as far back as we have any account of the rife and growth of the religions of the world. Shew me any places within thofe few generations, wherein yowfay the apoftaey prevailed after the flood, where the magiftrates, being of the true religion, the fubjedts by the liberty of a Toleration, were led into- falfe religioos, and then you will produce fomething againft liberty of confcience. But to talk of that great apoftaey, as wholly owing to toleration, when you cannot produce one inftance of Tpieration then in the world, is to iky what you pleafe. That the majority of mankind were then, and always have been, by the iorruftian and pvaniity of huraan nature, led away, and kept from imbracing the true religion, is paft doubt. But whether this be owing to Toleration, in matters of -religion, is the queftion. _ David defcribes an horrible corrup- tion A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION tion and apoftacy in his time, fo as to fay, There is none that doth good, m not 07ie, Pfal. xiiii ; and yet I do not think you will fay, aTol^ation then in that kingdom was the caufe of it. If the greateft part cannot be ill without a Toleration, I am afraid you muft be fain to find out a Toleration in every country, and in all ages of the world. For 1 think it is tru^, of all times and places, that the broad la^yy that leadeth to deJiruSHon, hashadmoft travellers. I would be glad to know where it was that force, your way applied, /. e. with punifliments only upon non-co;iformifts, ever prevailed to bring the greater number into the narrow way, that leads unto life ; which our Saviour tells u's, there 2XQfew xki-Mjind. The corruption of human nature, you fay, oppofes the true religion. I grant it you. There was alfo, fay you, an horrible apojiacy after the flood j let this alfo be granted you : and yet from hence it will not follow, that the true religion cannot fubfift and prevail in the world without the affiftance of force, your way applied, till you have fliewn, that the falfe religions, which were the inventions of men, grew up un{i€r Toleration, and not bytheinr Couragement and affiflance of the powers in being. *, v>' How near foever therefore, the true religion was to be extinguijh^d within ■a few generations after the flooii, which whether more in danger then, than in moft ages fince, is more than you can fhew. This will be ftill the quef- tion, whether the liberty of Toleration, or the authority of the powers in ' being, contributed moft to it ? And whether there can be no other, nor more probable caufe afligned, than the want of force, your way applied, I (hall leave the reader tojudge. This I am fure, whatever caufes any one elfe fhall ajjtgn, are gs w^ll proved as yours, if they offer them only as their con- jedtures. Not but that I think men could run into falfe and foolifli ways of wor- ship, without the inftigation or afliftance of human authority; but the powers of the world, as far as we have any hiftory, having been always -for- ward enough, true religion as little ferving princes as private mens lujis, to take up wrong religions, and as forward to imploy their authority to impofe the religion, good or bad, which they had once taken up ; I can fee no rea- fon wliy the riot ufing of force, by the princes of the world, {hould be af- figried as the fole, or fo much as the moA probable caufe of propagating the falfe religions of the world, or extirpating the true ; or how you cart fo po- litively lay, idolatry prevailed without any affiflance from the powers in being. : Since therefore hiilory leads us to the magiftrates, as the authors and pro- moters of idolatry in the worlds to which we may fuppo^ their not fup- preffing of vice, joined as another caufe of the fpreading of falfe religions^, you were beft confider, whether you can AiW fuppofe there can no other' caufe he ciffigned, of the prevailing of the worfhip of falfe gods, but the magiftrate's not interpofing his authority in matters of religion. For that that cannot with any probability at all be afligned as any caufe, I {hall give you this farther reafon. You impute the ^xcssiAm^Qi i2XiQ i&Xi^xom to the /corruption and pravity A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 337 fra-oity. of human nature, left to kfelf» unbridled by authority. Now \i force, your way applied, , does not at all bridle the corruption and pravity of human nature, the magiftrate's not fo interpofing his authority, cannot be ajftgned as any.wK/^jat.all of that apoftacy. So that let that apoftacy have what rife, and. fpread as fanas you- pleafe, it will not make one jot for force, your way applied, or (hew that that can receive any afliftance your way from authority. For, your ufe.of authority and force, beiiig only to bring men to an outward conformity to the national religion, it leaves the corruption and pravity of human nature z.^ unbridled as before; as I have fhewn elfewhere. You tell us. That it is not true, that the true religion will prevail by its p, 7 own light and Jirength, without miracles, or the afftjidnce of the powers in be- ing, becaiife .of the corruption of human nature. And for this yon give us an inftance in the apojidcy prefently after the flood. And you tell us. That without the afliftance of force it would prefently he extirpated out of the world, if the corruption of human nature be fo univerfal, and fo ftrong, that, without the help of force, the true religion is too weak to ftand it, and cannot at all prevail,, 'wi^oyxt miracles or force; how come men ever to be converted, in countries where the national religion is falfe? If you fay by extraordinary providence, what that amounts, to, has been fhewn. If you, fay this corruption is fo potent in all men, as to oppofe and prevail againft the Gofpeli not zffi{k.&dihj force or miracles, that is not true. If in Bioft men, fo it is ftill, even where force is ufed. For I defire you to name me a country, where the greatefl: part are really and truly Chriftians, fuch as you cpnfidently believe Chrift, at the lafl: day, will own to be fo. In- England having, as you do, excluded all the diflTenters, or elfe why would you have them punifhed, to bring them to imbrace the true religion ? you mufl:, I fear, allow yourfelf a great latitude in thinking, if you think that the corruption of human nature, does not fo far prevail, even amongft con- formifts, as to make." the ignorance, and lives, of great numbers amongft them, fuch as futes not at all with thefpirit of true Chrijiianity . How great their ignorance may be, in the more fpiritual and elevated parts of the Chri- ftian religion, may be gueflfed, by what the reverend bifhop, before cited, fays of it, in reference to a rite of the church j the moft eafy and obvious to he infl:ruaff pfMchkg, aM paffiiaficai, will not| I sin- fv^ej-, if ppfll,bly'jf^uf |».^^^ j^a^zK^/y/jf iijay ssrprk-pn fomes, andl^eve- fijre if/6^_y are ^(cejfar^, it ip ?g ppflttk, that greater punifhrnents «^ay wpr|? Pn pthjers, ^nd f jjgrgfofg i^fy gr# pefieSary, ?nd fo on j:o the utpioft fe verities. P; 25 . That the cprruptip-p ^ ihftp§n ^atuire i§ every where iparead, and that it works ppwerfyl|y \n the cyij^Msn of ^fpfae^eace, who ireceiv^ mt thehve of tie truth, but bAv.^ |i|?^/^^. kt. u^gi^mtfn&fi ; aqd .^uefpr© Go^ gives ,,!,,, {,,1 ihem up to helienje q He^ po lJA4y« I ifei^is* will dfi^. But that thi$cofr(i|H , / > tion of hupan patHfe woi|:ji tquilly ia ajl msmy or in all ages j and fo, that God will. Of evier 4if3> givf Wf, §11 niea, not reft-cained hy force, your way modifie4 and appl^e^j tp ij^ligSie^ ^Ja as ^l falfe religiipias ape, that I yet fee no reafon to gr^gt. |^gr W4l( tfeis iw^Qee pf Noah's region, yioia fo mvK^ rely pn, ever perfu^d?? VU ypt^ have pfPved, that from thofe eight nien which brought the trm, v^^n with lh®E» iot® the new wiorld there were not eight thoufand, or ^ight^ fihpu^jd, which setained it in the worM S^ the WPrft times pf thf %f of^y. A ad fefion^ljf, ti^ yo'U have proved thajft the fatie religions pf jthf !!i>^]dl |^QVit£lpd(> ivmheiUit any ^ from force, or tli^e afl^ftance pf the pvho. gave hina preeepta a^out- pther things, fhould never re.veal this; to biin« nor any body elfe, that I know. To this, you, who have cppfpiJsd, the BQn^tuve^ nfit to have pvsj^ the magis- trate this conimijfifin^., muft i^y, that it is pJaiik enaugh. ia th© commiffioa that he has from the lam) qf nature, aad fo. needed not any revela^tion, to-in- ftrud the magiftrate ip the right he has tp. ufe force;., I cpnfefs- thj? magis- trates have ufed force in matters, of religion, and hasve been as confideMi^ and conftantly put upon it hy their piiefts, as, if they had a,s clear a Com- miffipn from heaven, as St. Pft&r had to preap h the Gio^el to the Gentiles.. But yet it is plain, notwithilanding that commiffioa from the/aw of nature, there needs fome farther inftru^ion. ftosn revelation, finee it does npt appear, that they have found put the right uf^ of fprcei, foch as the true religion re- quires for its ppeferyationj, and though you have after fcverai^ thoufand s of years, at laft, difcoyered it, ypt it is ^jejy imperfefSUyj y-ou not being able t6 tell, if a law were npw to be madje againft thpfe ,wha have not confidered as , j//^^j)/ (jaj".i6^, what ajre thofe mod&i&fe penalties -which are to be.imployed againft them, though yet without that all the reft fignifies nothing. But however doqbtful ypq a;?e in this, I am glad to find you fodirecS:, in putting P. 7 mens rejedling the true religioj), upon, the ddlBjculty they Imsto-f^or-t^ their. 'u/ist A THIRD LETTER FOR fbLlAATIok ^"39 luji,s, 'whUh tht t)frte feligkh requires ofthvrfi, and I dellffe ybu to rdmetiii'ber it in oth^t plaees, wbepe I h^ve occafion torrtind yoti of it. To eoncki-die, That we may fee the great advantage ySdf caufe will fe^ ceivg frem? tha€ tnftanee, you fo much rely on,> of the dpoflacy after the flCorf, I flitfU oppofe another fo- it. You fay. That iMattj prevailed iri tBe itdrld, in P. 6 (*y^w generations, abnoft to the utter exdujioti of the true religion, wkhoiit ahy ^l4 from forge, ot- affifiafke of thi fowefi i'h beings by feafoft of Tofef^idn. And fhei?efofe,. yom think there is great reafon to fear, that the true feligioh P. 9 w^di by Toleratioti, qmckly be mof effeSimily extirpated fhfottghb'ui the iborid. And I fay, that after Chr^ianity was received for tSe ttlighn of the empire, itod. whilft political Ikws, and force, interpofed in it, an horrible apbftacy prevailed, to almbfi the utter 'excli^on' of ttue rdigiovi, arid a gerieral intro-^^^^*^|f' the^' were cdi^^ukdtilifm$Sfco\:A6)b&^ had •,- ni^ fo mttcB ftit evincing the?. 37 frmh ^the^ G&r^iam r'e^i^B^, as to' finpffyth^ want of the magiftrate's afftfi- anee. §&■ that ^henevferVforcfe'Mle^- thfefb'i according' to your hypotheifis; are miracles to fupply its want j. for without orie'of them, the true religion j^ if \!Ve'Hlaybeliev« you,'!Vfrill {ook be' Utterly extirpated; and wKat force, in the abfence of iftiraoles,! prod*k:ed' in Chriftendom feveral ages before tH6 re- ftrfmation-i is fa well knowtf,. that" it will be hard to Arid what ferviciefyour way of arguing will do any bat the Rotfiifll religion. ■ But- to take ydur argunient in its full latitude, you Iky, but you fay it without book,, that there was Once a Tolerati&ift^ in the vvoHd to the almoji utter eitfirpation of the tru6 rteiigiO^n ; an^^I fay to you, that as far as records authorize either opinion, we' may fay force has been always ufed in matters of religion, td the great prejudice of the true' religion, and the prbfefTor^ of. it. And there not being an age wherein you can £hew me, upon' a fair trial of an eftaibliflied national Toleration, that the t?tre religion vt^l^ extir'pated, or indangered-, fo much as yoti pretend by it> where'as there is no age, where^ of we have fefSdent hiftory to judge of this rfe'atfer', vsrherein it will not be eafy to find that the- true relig^ion, an^d its'folidw^'rs, fufjfered by force, you wiil in vain indeaVouf, by inftances, tO' prove the ill effeds, or' ufelefnjsfs o;f TokratiOnv fut^h as- the author propofed, vdiich I challenge you to fhew me ■^4»ever i^tt up in the v^nld^ orthsft the true religion fuffered by it; and it is to the want of iti and the-reftraints and difadvantages the true religion has laboured under, its fo little fpreadiffgiri the ■v\>orld will juftly be imputed | iituili froai better experiments,, you have fortiething to fay againft it. *'-' >^^' X X 2 Our 340 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION Our Saviour has prorftifed that he will build his church on this funda- mental truth. That he is Chriji the/on of God; fo that the gates ofheUJhdU not prevail againji it : and this I believe, though you tell us the true religion ' is not able to fubfift without the affiftance of force, when miracles ceafe. I do not remember that our Saviour any where promifes any other affiftance but that of his fpirit, or gives his little flock any incouragement tp expedt much countenance or help from the great men of the world j or the coercive power of the magiftrates, nor any where authorizes them to ufe it for the fupport of his church j not many wife men after the fiejh, not many mighty ^ not many noble ^ \ Cor. i, 26, is the ftile of the Gofpel ; and I believe will be found to belong to all ages of the church militant, paft and to come, as well as to the firft : for God, as St. Paul tells us, has chofen ihefooMfh things cf the 'world to confound the wife, and the weak things^ of the world to confound the mighty j and this not only till miracles ceafed, but ever fmce. To be hated fit Cbrift's namefakt, and by much tribulation to enter into the kingdok of hea- ven, has been the general and conftant lot of the people of God, as well as it feems to be the current ftrain of the New Teftament ; which promifes nothing of fecular power or greatnefs J fays nothing of kings being nurjing fathers, or queens nurfng mothers : which prophecy, whatever meaning it have, it is like our Saviour would not have omitted to fupport his church with fome hopes and aflurance of fueh affiftance, if it were to have any ac- complifliment before his fecond coming; when Ifrael fhall come in again, and with the Gentiles make up the fulnefs of his glorious kingdom. But the tenor of the New Teftament is. All that will live godly in Jefus Chriji, Jhall fuffer perfecution, n Tim. iii, 12. A. p. 7 I" your *' Argument confdered," you- tell us, That no man can fail of find- ing the way of falvation that feeks it as he ought. In my anfwer, I take no- tice to you, that the places of Scripture you cite to prove it, point out this way oifeeking as we ought, to be a good life ; as particularly that of St. John-, Jf any one wtll da his will, he jhall know, of the doSirine whether it be cf God : i, II, p. 72 «pon which I ufe thefe words. " So that thefe places, if they prove what " you cite them for. That no man can fail of 'finding the way of falvdtion, " whjx feeks it as he ought; they do alfo prove, that a good life is the only " way to feek as we .ought j and that therefore, the magifti^tes, if they " would put men upon feeking the way of falvation as they ought, Q\o\Ad, by ** their laws and penalties force them to a good life ; a good cohvierfation be- " ing the fureft and readieft way to a right undePftanding. And that if ma- " giftrates will feverely and impartially fet themfelves againft vice, in whdm- " foever it is found, true religion will be fpread wide? than ever hitherto . •- ■ *' it has been by the impofition oi creeds and ceremonies'.' To this you reply, P. 13 Whether the magifirates fetting themfelves feverely and impifriially againfi what you fuppofel call vice., or the impofition of found creeds and decent ceremonies, does more conduce to. the fpreading the true religion, and rendring it fruitful in ' the lives of its prof eff'ors, we need 'not examine; you confefs, you think, both- together do beft i and this, you think,, is as much as needs befaidto thit-para^ graphs A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 341 graph. If it had been put to you. Whether a good living, or a good pre- bend would more conduce to the inlarging your fortuncj 1 think it would be allowed you as no improper or unlikely anfwer, what you fay here, / think both together nvould do beji ; but here the cafe is otherwife, your think- ing determines not the point : and other people of equal authority, rnay, and I will anfwer for it, do think otherwife : but becaufe I pretend to no autho- rity, I will give you a reafon, why your thinking is infufficient. You tell us. That force is not a jit means, where it is not necejfary as well as ufeful; P* 3° and you prove it to he. necejfary , becaufe there is no other means left.. Now if the feverity of the magiftrate, againft what I call vice, will, as you will not deny, promote a good life, and that he the right way to feek the truths pf religion, here is another means befides impofing'of creeds and ceremonies, to promote true religion j and therefore your argument for its neceffity, becaufe of no other means left, being gone, you cannot fay both together are bef, when one of them being not neceffary, is therefore, by your own confeffioni not to be ufed. I having faid, That if fuch an indireSi and at a difiance ufefulnefs were fuf- ficient to juftifythe ufe of force, the magiftrate might make his fubjeds eu- nuchs -for the kingdom: of heaven : you reply, that yoM' fuppofe I will not fay p. 3, eafiration is neceffary, becaufe you hope I acknowledge, that marriage, and that grace which God denies to none, who fer.ioujly ajk it, arc fufficient for that pur- pofe. And 1 hope you acknowledge, that preaching, admonitions and in- -ilruftions, and that grace which God denies to none who ferioujly aJk it, are fufficient for falvation. So that by this anfw;er of yours, there being no more iieceflity of force to make men of the true religion, than there is of caftra- tion to make men chafte, it will ftill remain that the magiftrate, when he thinks fit, may, upon your principles, as well caftrate men to make them chafte, as ufe force to make them imbrace the truth that muji fave them. ■ . , If caftration be not neceftary, becaufe marriage and the grace of God isfaf- ficient, without it ; nor will force be neceflary, becaufe preaching, and the grace of God is fufficient without it; and this, I think, by your own rule, where you tell us, Where there are many 'ufeful means, and fame (f them are?. 34 fufficieijt without the reft, there is no neceffity of uftn'g them alL So that you muft either quit your neceffity of force, or take in caftration too : which, however it might not go down with the untradtable and defperately perverfe and obftinate people in thefe Weftern countries, yet is a dodrine, you may hope, may meet with a better reception in the Ottoman empire, and recom- mend you to fome of my Mohammedans. To my faying, " If what we are apt to think ufeful, were thence to beL.II,p.Ei *'. concluded fo, we might be in danger to be obliged to believe the pre- *f tended miracles of the church of Rome, by your way of reafoning -, unlefi V we will fay, that which without impiety canriot^ be faid, that the wife an^ f* benign Difpofer and Governor of all things, does not ufe all ufeful means for «' promoting his own honour in the world, and Jthe good of fo'uk" This, I think, wiii 34? A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION: P, 33 will conclude as much for miracles as for force : you reply, you fhtnk it -mH not; fon in the flac&\ intend, yon Jfeak nat of ujefuh but (f competent, i. e* fi0£i$nt means. Nonv cmipetent, or fufficieni means are neceffary ; but you tbmk no man wiH fay that aU ufefiil means are fo : and therefore fhittghr as you eiffirm, k cannot befaid without impiety^ that the wife and benign D^^ejr and Governor, of all things has notfumifked mankind lekh competeM means for the pKomoting hkawnhmam in the world, and thegesdef finik', yet it if *wwjp agreeable with piety-, and with truth tos, tofoy that he daes not now ufe ait i^- fi^ means : becaufe as none ^ his attributes obliges him t& ufe more thmtfujS^ cient means ; fohe may ufifufficient means, without «fmg ail ufefvdnwans. Fvr ^here the^e are many ufeful means, andfome of themi are JitfikieM •without the reft., ther^ is no> mceffity of ufing tJt^m alt. So thai f rem. Gms not tfmg mirachs now, to promote the tnue veH^an^^ I cannot conviude t^t he does, not tihiiak- them if^knaw, but only that ke does not think them necej^aj. And therefsre;. tkm,^ wha/t we are apt to- think, vfiful, were thence to be £oncbidedfo<; yet if- what' ever is ufeful, be not likewife to be concluded necefj'ary, there is na reafiM, tofiiKf thai we Jl^uM' b& oNiged to> bdie^^ the mifocles pretettdkd ta ly tke- ckmch ef Rome. For ^ miracles be- not now necefiry, tkere is no incojwemenve' in ^hatiimg the mimi^S' pretind^d to l^ the church rf'Rxxas, to be but pretmdsd nmadm. To which. 1' ari^er. Put it how you\ will, for campetejvt meansi er uf^l nxeaaa, it will conclude for miracles ftiU: as much aa for force. A, p. 1 6 Your words are thefe, 1^ fue^ a degree' of oui'moftdcfarciBi, asrhaxbienntentiojtedi ke-reaHy of great artd ma^^c&y^ufB-far the advaitciag thefe ends, as taking, tik leionld'as nf?e>J^dit, you fey, you thmk- i^ csppears to, be.\. them it- m^be.ac- knomkdged there is a-right>fmewhere to ufe it far the ashmttdngthofeends i «^- AjjS wet will fay, wihai without impiety cannot he f aid, that the wife and benign Hf^pifer of all' things^ kas not furnijbedmmkind with competent means f^xr the pfBomoting his own honotut in the w*rld, and the goottof fouls^ What^ I befeech you, now is the fum of this argument, but this, force is of great and necef- • feiry tife-i therefore* the wife and beni^ Difpafer of alt things, who wUl not leave mankind unfurrdfhedi which it would-be impiety to^fc^, of competent means foff the promoting hisBomvr in the world, and the good of fouls , has given fome- 'mherearighttoufeitf Let us try it now, whether it will not do as well for miracles. Mkaeles rn^e of great and neceff&ry ufe, as great and neceffary at leaft as forcd, there* fore the wife and bemgn Difpofer of all things, wkowiH not leave mankiftd-un-^ fmmjhedi which- it would be impiety i to fay, of competent means for the pro- mating his honour in the worlds and the good-.of fouls, has-grven fomewherea power of miracles. I afk you, whea I in the *' Sveon^Lettsr' ufed ywift own wor(fe, appUed to miracles inftead of force-, would tbey-aoit conclude then as well for miracles 2&iov force. For you muft-remember.there was not then in all your foheme one word' of mir^chs to fupplpthe place of /orcB'.' For^ce z\onQ was mentioned, force alone was neceflary, all was laid on force>.' Nor was it eafy to divine, that miracles fhould be taken in, to mend.the de- fe<5ts.of yourhypotheiiis, which in your ^wer tamey you Jiowhave-donei and A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 343 aiiid I eafily allow it, without hdding you to any thing you have faid, and ihill al\ii^ays do fo. Fpr feeldng truth, and not triumph, as you frequently fuggeft, I jSjall always take your hypothefis as you pleafe to reform it, and either irabrace it, or fhew you why I do not. Let us fee theiefore, whether this argument will do any better now yout fcheme in mended, arid you tass^t. force or miracks necej'ary. If force or mi- racles are o/'^r^'^/ imd neceffary ufe far the ftom&ting true religion, and the fal" Vfltien offmhi then it mufl be mknmvkdgdy that thp'e isjomewhere a right t9 vfi the oae, or a power to do the other, for the advancing thofe ends^ j unlefi 'me ^iUJkyy 'mbat •vsithotd impiety cannot befai^, that the "wife and benign Dtf" ^(^frr ^nd Governor of all things has not furpified mankind with competent memsfor the promoting his own honour, and the good (f fouls. From whence it will follow, if your argument be good, tl^t where men have not a righl to ftfe force, there jftill we are to expe(9: miracles, unlefi ive will f^, etc. Now where the magiftrates are not of the true religion, there by this part of your fcheme, there is a right in Tmbo^ to ttfe force; < for if there were,, what need of miracles, as youi tell us there was, in the firft ages of ChriC- tianjty, to fupply that want ? Since the magiftrates, who were of fasLfe re- ligions then, were furnifhed with as much right, if that were enough, as -they are now. So that where the magiftrates are of falife religions, there y^u muft, upon your principles, affirm miracles are flill to fupply the want offorecti, unle/s you liMl fajy what without impiety cannot he fald, that the w/e a,itd benign JDifpqfer and Governor of dithirngs,, bath noift^nifia^d mankind with competent means for the promoting hii own hmmr hi the. world, and the gsod of finis. Now how far this will favour the pretences of the church of Rometpimkaisks m the Ea/]tsLndJV^>-Imdks,. and other parts Botimdei; po*- piifh. govern^ments,. you were beft: confider. This is evident, that in, ail countries wheie the tcioje iteligion is Kot reeei'md for the reRgion of the Aim, att^fupp^Ttgd and imaaraged ^ tktkmis (fit, you na^uft allow miracles to be S8;.nec;efrary rm.w, as ever they, were any where indie world, for the- fuppljr of the want of force,, before the magiftrates were Chriftian«. And theia* whae a^a^tage ytjitjr do^^tirine gives to the church of Rome; is very vifibte. For they, like you^ iiipp^^it?^ theirs the one mly true- religion,, are fopplied by you with this argianieot for it, m^. Th&t xhei trwe reHgimnmllnc^ prevail by its'?, f own light and firength, withal the affifitmce (f miracks ar authority.. Which are the campe.ten-imieam,rw\mis^, witbsut impiety, it cannst be- faid, that the wife ^dibenigr^ Dfpofer and Gavevnar cf all things,, has notfu^mfi'd mankind wi0i. From whence they wili not tMnk it hard to draw' this ccaifequence -^ th^t thejefofe the w^ea^ benign. GofmrJmx^ of ail things, has continsued ia their church, thm powes of mifiswdLes, wltiek yours, does not fa much as pce- ttridito,, tOifiipply the im^t: of tih«f, and did produce that end wherever it was applied, I defire you then to tell me whether mankind hath been always furnifhed with competent means. You have it now in your choice, either to talk impioufly, or renounce force, and difown it to be competent means; one of the two I do not fee how, by your own argument, you can avoid. But to lay by your competent and fufficient means i and to eafe you of the un- certainty and difficulty you will be in to determine what is fo, in refpeft of mankind; I fuppofe it will be little lefs impious to fay, that the wife and be- nign Di/pofer and Governor hath not furritjK d mankind with nectffary means, as to fay he hath hotfurnijh'd them with competent means. Now, Sir, if your moderate penalties, and nothing elfe, be, fince the withdrawing of miracles, this neceffary means, what will be left you to fay, by your argument, of the wifdom and benignity of God in all thofe countries, where moderate penalties" are not made ufe of? where men are not furnifhed with this means to bring them to the true religion ? For unlefs you caa fay, that your moderate penalties have A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION' 345 ; have been conftantly made ufe of In the world for the fupport and incou- ragement of the true reh'gion, and to bring men to it, ever iince the with- drawing of miracles, you muft confefs, that not only fome countries, which yet were enough againft you, but mankind in general, have been unfur- niflied of the necejfary means for the promoting the honour of God in the world, and the fahation of mens fouls. This argument out of your own mouth, were there no other, is fufEcient to fhew the weaknefs and unreafonablenefs of your fchemej and I hope the due confideration of it will make you cau- tious another time, how you intitle the wifdom and benignity of God to the fupport of what you once fancy to be of great and neceflary ufe. I having thereupon faid, " Let us not therefore be more wife than our L. II, p. 82 *• Maker in that ftupendous and fupernatural work of our falvation. The <* Scripture," etc. You reply, Though the work of our falvation be, as Ijujily call it, ftupen- p. 35 dous and fupernatural ; yet yon fuppofe nofober man doubts, but it both admits and ordinarily requires the ufe of natural and human means, in fubordination to that grace which works it. If you had taken notice of thefe immediately following words of mine, ** The Scriptijre that reveals, it to us, contains all that we can know or do, *' in order to it ; and where that is filent, it is prefumption in us to direft ;" you would not have thought what you here fay a fufficient anfwer : for - though God does make ufe of natural and human means in fubordination to grace, yet it is not for man^to make ufe of any means, \xi fubordination to his grace, which God has not appointed, out of a conceit it may 6.0 fome fervice indireSily and at a dijiance. The whole covenant and work of grace, is the contrivance of God's infi- nite wifdom. What it is, and by what means he will difpenfe his grace, is known to us by revelation only j which is fo little futed to human wifdom, that the Apoftle calls It thtfooltjhnefs of preaching. In the Scripture is con- tained all that revelation, and all things neceflary for that work, all the means of grace : there God has declared all what he would have done for the falvation of fouls ; and if he had thought force neceflary to be joined with ihefoolijhnefs of preaching, no doubt but he would fomewhere or other have revealed it, and not left it to the wifdom of man : which how difproportioned and oppofite it is to the ways and wifdom of God in the Gofpel, and how un- fit to be trufl:ed in the bufmefs of falvation, you may fee, i Cor. i, from verfe 37, to the end. The work of grace admits, and ordinarily requires the ufe of natural and hu'Y. 35 man means. I deny it not : let us now hear your inference ; Therefore till I havejhewn that no penal laws, that can be made, can do any fer vice towards the falvation of tnens fouls in fubordination to Gods grace, or that God has forbidden the magijirate to ufe force, for fo you ought to put it, but you rather chufe, according to your ordinary way, to ufe general and doubtful words ; and therefore you fay, Toferve him in that great work with the authority which he has given him, there will be no 'occafon for the caution I have given, not to ^\ be A THIRD tfittEk FOR tOLEkAtiOlf be wifef thah our Maker in that ftupdrldbqi Work of our falvafife/ Bjr which Way of argilirig, any thing that I cantiot fhew, cannot poffibly^ caii- fiot iridirehly and at a dijldhce, or by accident, Aoanyfervice, or God has not fofbidden, may be made ufe of for the falvatiofiof fouls, I fuppofe ypU mean exptefslyJhrBiddeh, for elfe I might think fhefe words, [Who has Required this at your hands f] a fufEcient prohibition of it. The fum of your argu- ment is, what cannot Befiewtdnot to dt) dnyfervie'el may be iifed (^sdhUman vieantin fubordinatioh to grace .^ in the Wi^rk of falvation. To which Ir^ply, That what may, througil the grace of God, fometimes do fbmC fervice, cannot, without a farther warrant fjfoni revelation than fuch ufefulnefsi be re- quired, or made ufe of as a fuboi-dlnaiCe means to grace. For if fo, then au- ricular confeffibn, penaneei j: any thing in their power, and who knows alfo how prone man is to thin^ it reafonable to do fo : whether, I fay, it is not as probable that God, if he wauld have Jtite magiftrate to ufe none hxsx moderate force to compel mn ta hear^ A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 349 > heart 'would alfo have fold usfo ? Fathers are not more apt than naagiftrates to flrain their power beyOnd what is convenient for the education of their children j and yet it has pleafed God to tell them in the New Teftament, of this moderation, by a precept more than once repeated. To my demanding, " What if God would have men left to their freedom *' in this point -, if they will hear, or if they will forbear, will you conftrain *' them? Thus we are fure he did with his own people," etc. You anfwer. But thofe words, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear, niohich !*• sJf ive find thrice ufed in the prophet Ezekiel, are nothing at all to my purpofe. P(9/-<^j/. hearing there, no man underjiands the bare giving an ear to what was to be preach" d, nor yet the confidering it only ; but the complying with it, and obey^ ing it, according to the paraphrafe which Gvoims gives of the words. Me- thinks, for this once, you might have allowed me to have hit upon fomething; to the purpofe, you having denied me it in fo many other places : if it were but forpity, and one other reafon j which is, that all you have to fay againft it, is, that by hearing there, no man underjiands the bare giving an ear to what was to be preached, nor yet the confidering it, but the complying with it, and obeying it. If I mifremember not, your hypothefis pretends the ufe of force to be not barely to make men give an ear, nor yet to confider, but to make them confider as they ought, i. e. fo as not to^ rejeSi ; and therefore, though this text out oi Ezekiel, be nothing to the purpofe againft bare giving an ear, •yet if you pleafe, let it ftandas if it were to the purpofe againft your hypo- thefis, till you can find fbme other anfwer to it. If you will give yourfelf the pains to turn to ASls xxviii, 24, 25, 26, "27, 28, you will read thefe words, And fome believed the things that were fpoken, and fome believed not. And when they agreed not among themfelves they departed, after that Paul had fpoken one word; Wellfpake the Holy Ghoji ' -by Efaias the prophet. Unto our fathers, faying. Go unto this people, and fay, hearing, ye fliall hear, and fiiall not underfiand; and feeing, ye Jhall fee, and not perceive. For the heart of this people is waxed gr of s, and their ears are dull of Hearing, and their eyes have they clofed; lefi they Jhould fee with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and underjland with their heart, and Jhould be converted, and 1 Jhould heal them. Be it known therefore unto you, that the falvation ef God iifertt unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it. " * If one fhould come now, and out of your treatife, called " ^ he argument of t-he Letter concerning 'Toleration confider d and anfwer d" reafon thus. It is A. |k ^, etti evident that thc{e Jews have not fought the truth in this matter, with that ap^ plication of mind, and freedom of judgment which was requifite, whilfi theyfuf- fered their lujls and paffions to fit in judgment, and manage the inquiry. The imprejjions of education, the reverence and admiration' (f perfans., worldly re- fpeBs, and the like incompetent motives, have determined them. Now if this be the cafe; if thefe men are aver fe to a due confideration of things, where they are moji concerned to ufe it, wpiat means is there left f be/ides the grace of God J to reduce thfem out of the wrong way they are in, but to lay thorns and briars in it f Would you not think this a good argument to Ihew the necef- - ■ fity 350 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION fitjr of ufing force and penalties upon thefe men in the ASts, who refufed to be brought to imbrace the true religion upon the preaching of St. Pnut? For what other means ivas left, tcx&at human method could betifedto bring them to make a moifer and more rational choice ^ but laying fuch penalties upon them as might balance the weight of fuch prejudices, tuhich inclirid them to prefer ^afalfe imy before the true ?■ Tell me, I befeech 3fou, would you not, had you been a Chriftian magiftrate in thofe days, have thought yourfelf obliged to itiy, A. p. II by force, to over-balance the 'weight (f thofe prejudices which inclind them to prefer flfalfe way to the true ? For there was no other human means left ; and if that be not enough to prove the neceffity of ufing it, you have no proof of any neceffity of force at all. If you would have laid penalties upon them, I afk you, what if God for reafons beft known to himfelf, thought it not neceflary to ufe any other hu- man means but preaching and perfudlion ? You have a ready anfwer. There is no other human means but force, and fome other human means befides preaching, is neceflary, /. e. in your opinion : and is it not fit your authority ihouM-carry it ? For as to miracles, whether you think fit to rank them amongft human means or no ; or whether or no there were any fliewed to thefe ambelieving Jews, to fupply the want of force, I guefs, in this cafe, you will not be much helped, which ever you fuppofe : Though to one un- biaffed, who reads that chapter, it will, I imagine, appear moft probable that St. Paul, when he thus parted with them; had done no miracles amongft them. . >\ But you have, at the clofe of the paragraph before us, provided a ^/x'o p. 3$ for all, in telling us. However the penalties " That the method of the Gofpel is to pray and befeech, " and that if God had thought it neceflary to have men puniflied to make " them give ear, he could have called magiftfates to be fpreaders of the " Gofpel, as well as poor fifhermen, or Paul a perfeeator, who yet wanted « not A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 351 ** not power to punifh Ananias znd. Saphirai and the inceftuous Corm- *' thian." You reply. Though it he the method of the Gofpel, for the mi.- P. 38 nijiers of it to pray and befeech men; yet it appears from my o-wn ivords here^ both that punijhments may befometimes necejfary ; and that punijhing, and that even by thofe who are to pray and befeech, is confijient ivith that method. I fear, Sir, you fb greedily lay hold upon any examples ;o£ punifhment, when on any account they come in your way, that you give yourfelf not liberty to Gonfider whether they are for your purpofe or no ; or elfe you would fearce infer, as you do fr^m my words, that, in your czS^ypuniJhmints may bi fametimes necejfary. Ananias and Saphira were punifhed ; therefore it appears, fay you, that punijhments may be fometimes necej'ary. For what, I befeech you ? Fot the only end, you fay, puniifhments are ufeful in religion, /, e. to M-ake men cmftder. So \}a.^tAnanms and iSa^i&Jra were ftruck dead : for whit end ? To make them tonfidef. If you had given yourfelf the leifure to have refleded on this, and the other inftance of the inceftuous Corinthian, it is poffible you would have found neither of them to have ferved very well to fhew punifhment necejfary to bring men to imbrace the true religion i for both thele were punishments laid on thofe who had already imbraced the true religion, and were in the communion of the true church, and ib can only fhew, if you will infer any thing concerning the neceffity of punifli- riients from them, that punifhments may be fometimes necel&ry for thofe who are in the communion of the true church. And of that you may make your advantage. As to your other inferences from my words, %>iz. That punijhing, and that even by thofe ivho are, as ambafladors, to pray and befeech, is confjient ivith that method : when they can do it as the Apoftles did, by the immediate di- fedtion and afliftance of the fpirit of God, I ihall eafily allow it to be eonjifieni: W/y& the method of the Gofpel. If that will not content you, it is plains yo*have an itch to be handling the fecular fword ; and fince Chrift has not' given you the power you defire, you would be executing the magiftfate'& pretended commijion from the lanv of nature. One thing more let me mind you of, and that is, that if, from tlie puniiliments of Ananias and SaphirOy and the inceftuous Corinthian, you can infer a neceffity of punifhment to make men confider, it will follow that there was a neceffity of punifhment to make men confider, notwithftanding miracles j which cannot therefore be fuppofed, to fupply the want of punifhments. 1 To: my afking, " What if God, forefeeing this force would be in the L. II, p. % ^' hands of men, as paffionate, as humourfome, as liable to {)rejudice and " error, as the reft of their brethren, did not think it a proper means to ** bring men into the right way ? " You reply. But if there be any thing of?. 39 an argument in this, it proves that. there ought to be no civil governmtnt in the •world', and fo proving too much, proves nothing at all. This you fay; but you being one of thofe mortals which is liable to error as well, as your bre- thren, you cannot expert it,ihould be received for infallible truth, till you have proved it j and that- you will never do, till you can fhew, that there is AS A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION as abfolute a neceffity offeree in the magiftrate's hand for the falvation of fouls, as there is of force in the magiftrate's hands for the prefervation of cFvil fo- ciety ; and next, till you have proved that force, in the hands of men, as paf- fionate, and humourfome, or liable to prejudice and error as their brethren, would contribute as much to the bringing men, and keeping them in the right way to falvation, as it does to the fupport of civil fociety, and the keeping menat peace in it. Where men cannot live together without mutual injuries, not to be avoided without force, reafon has taught them to feek a remedy in government, which always places powrer fomewhere in the fociety to reftrain and punifli fuch injuries; which powder, whether placed in the community itfelf, or fome chofen by the community to govern it, muft ftill be in the hands of men j and where, as in focteties of civilized and fettled nations, the form of the government places this power out of the community itfelf, it is unavoidable, that out of men, fuch as they are, fome fhould be made ma- giftrates, and have coercive power or force put into their hands, to govern and dire<3: the fociety for the public good ; without which force, fo placed in the hands of men, there could be no civil fociety, nor the ends for which it is inftituted, to any degree attained. And thus government is the will of God. It is the will of God alfo, that men fhould be faved ; but to this, it is not neceffary that force or coaBive power fhould be put into mens hands j becaufe God can, and hath provided other means to bring men to falvation : to which, you indeed fuppofe, but can never prove force neceffary. The paffionSy humours , liablenefs to prejudices and errors, common to ma- glftrates with other men, do not render force m their hands fo dangerous and unufeful, to the ends of fociety, which is the public peace, as to the ends of religion, which is the falvation of mens fouls. For though men of all ranks could be content to have their own humours, pajjtons, and prejudices fatisfied, yet when they come to make laws, which are to diredl their force in civil matters, they are driven to oppofe their laws to the humours, paffions 2^6. pre- judices of men in general, whereby their own come to be reftrained : for if law-makers, in making of laws, did not diredt them againfl the irregular humours, prejudices and pajftons of men, which are apt to miflead them : if they did not indeavour with their beil judgment, to bring men from their humours and pajfions, to the obedience and pradice of right reafon, the fo- ciety could not fubfift, and fo they themfelves would be in danger to lofe their ftation in it, and be expofed to the unreftrained humours, pajfions, and violence of others. And hence it conies, that be men as humourfome, paf- iionate, and prejudiced as they will, they are flill by their own intereft obliged to make ufe of their belt fkill, and with their mofl unprejudiced and fedateft thoughts, take care of the government, and indeavour to preferve the commonwealth ; and therefore, notwithflanding their humours and pqf- Jions, their liablenefs to error and prejudice, they do provide pretty well for the fupport of fociety, and the power in their hands is of ufe to the mainte- nance of it. But A" THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION But in matters of religion it is quite otkerwife j you had told us, about the latter* end of your "Argument " p. 22, how liable men were in chufing their religion, to be mifled by ■ humour, pajjion and prejudice ; and therefore, it was not fit that in a bufinefs of fuch concernment they fhould be left to them- felves : and hence, in this matter of religion, you would have them fub- jed:ed to the caaSii've power of the magiilrate. But this contrivance is vifibly of no advantage to the true religion, nor can ferve at all to fecure men from. a wrong choice. For the magiftrates, by their humours, prejudices and pajjions, which they are born to like other men, being as liable, and likely to be mifled in the choice of their religion, as any of their brethren, as con- ftantfeixperience hath always fhewn, what advantage could it be to mankind, for the falvation of their fouls, that the magiflrates of the world fhould have power to ufe force to bring men to that religion which they, each of them^ - by whatfoever humour, pajjion or prejudice influenced, had chofen to them- felves as the true ? For whatfoever you did, I think with reverence we may fay, - that God forefaw, that whatever commifllon one magiftratehad by the law of nature, all magifl:rates had : and that commiflion; if there were any fuchi could be only to ufe their coaSiive power to bring men to the religion they believed to be true, whether it were really the true or no : and there- fore I fliall, without taking away government out of the world, or fb much as queft:ioning it, ftill think this a realbnable quefl:ion j " What if God, fore- ** feeing this force would be in the hands of men, as pajjtonate, as humour- *' fame, as liable lo prejudice and error, as- the refl: of their brethren, did not •' think it a proper means, in fuch hands, to bring men into the right way ?'* And that it needs a better anfwer than you have given to it : and therefore, you might have fpared the pains you have taken in this paragraph, to provor that the magifl:rates, being liable, as much- as other men to humour i prejudice; pajjion and i?rr^r, makes not force, in his hand, wholly unferviceable to the' adminiftration of civil government. Which is what no body denies : and you would have better imployed it to prove, that if the magifl:rate's being as liable to pajjion, humour, prejudice and error as other men, made force, in his hafids, improper to bring men to the true religion, this would take away government out of the world ; which is a confequence, I think, I may deny. ' - To which let me now add. What if God forefaw, that if force, of any' kind or degree whatfoever, were allowed in behalf of truth, it would be ufed hY^erring,paJionafet prejudiced mtn, to the refl:raint and ruin of truth, as ddnfl;ant experience in all ages has fhewn, and therefore commanded that the tares ftiould be fufFered to grow with the wheat till the harvefl, when th? infallible Judge ihall fever them. That parable of our Saviour's plainly tells us. If force were once permitted, even in favour of the true religion, what mifchief it was like to do in the mifapplication of it, by forward, bufy miftaken men, and therefore he wholly forbid it j and yet, I hope, this does- not take away civil government out of the world. '- Zz To 354 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION To my demanding, *' What if there be other means?" and faymg, '• Then yours ceafes to be neceflary upon that account, that there is ho other " means left ; for the grace of God is another means." You anfwer. That P. 39 though the grace of God be another means, yet it is none of the means of 'Which you werefpeahing in the place I refer to, -which any one., -who reads that paragraph, 'will find to be only human means. In that place, you were indea- vouring to prove force neceflary to bring men to the true religion* as ap^ pears ; and there having dilated for four or five pages together upon the A. p. 6 earelefnefs, prejudices, paeons, hjis, impreffions of education, -worldly refpeSis, '. and other the like caufes, which you think miflead and keep men from the true religion, you at laft, conclude force neceflary to bring men to it, becaufe admonitions and ifftreaties not prevailing, there is no other means left. To this,, grace being inftanced in as another means, you tell us here you mean no other human means left. So that to prove force necefliary, you mufl: prove that God would have other human means ufed befides praying, preaching, perfuafion and inftrudtion; and for this, you will need to bring a plain di- rediion from revelation for your moderate pu^fhments -, unlefs, you will pre- tend to know, by your own natural wifdom, what means God has made tieceffary ; without which, thofe whoim he hath foreknown and predeflinaiedy and will in his good time call, Romans viii, 29, by Tuch means as he thinks fit, according to his purpofe, cannot be brought into the nvay of fahation. Perhaps you have fome warrant we know not of» to enter thus boldly into the counfel of God ; without which, in another man, a modeil Chriflian would be apt to think it prefumption. You fay, there are many who are not prevailed on by prayers-, intt^atie^ and exhortations, to imbrace the, true religion^ What then is to be done ? Some degrees of force are neceffary to be ufed* Why ? Becaufe there is no other human means left. Many are not prevailed on by your moderate force ;; What then is to be done ? Greater degrees of force are neceflary, becaufe there is no other human means left. No, fay you, God has made moderate force neceflary, becaufe there is no other human means left, where preaching and intreaties will not prevail : but he has not made greater degrees of force necefl^ary, becaufe there is no other human means left where moderate force, will not prevail. So that your rule changing, where the reafon continues the fame, we muil conclude you have fome way of judging concerning the purpofes-and ways of the Almighty in the work of falvation, which every one underftands not. You would not elfe, upon fo flight ground' as you have yet produced for it, which is nothing but your own imagination, make force, your moderate force fo neceflfary, that you bring in queftion the wif- A. p. i&dom and bounty of the Difpofer and Governor of all things, as if he had not furnijh'd mankind with competent means for the promoting his own honour in the -world, and the good of fouls, if your moderate force were wanting to bring, them to the true religion ; whereas you know, that mofl: of the nations of the world always were defl:itiite of this buman.means to bring them to the. true A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION true religion. And I inaa'girie you would be put to it, to name me one now that is furnifhed with it. Befides, if jrou pleafe to remember what you fay in the next words. And p. 39 therefc^e, though the grace of God he both a proper and fufficient means, and fuch as can work by itfelft and without which, neither penalties nor any other means can do any thing -, and by confequence, can make any "means effedlual : how can you fay any human means, in this fupernatural work, unlefs what God has declared to be fo, is neceffary ? Preaching and inftrudtion, and ex- hortation, are human means that he has appointed : thefe, therefore, men may and ought to ufej they have a commiffion from God. and may expe(3: his bleffing and the affiftance of his grace; but to fuppofe, when they are ufed and prevail not, that force is neceffary, becaufe thefe are not fufficient, is to exclude grace, and afcribe this work to human means ; as in effedt you . do, when you call force competent and fufficient means, as you have done. For if bare preaching, by the affiftance of grace, can and will certainly pre- vail ; and moderate penalties, as you confefs, or any kind of force, without the affiftance of grace, can do nothing. How can you fay, that force 'is in any cafe a more neceffary, or a more competent, or fufficient means, than bare preaching and inftrudion ? unlefs you can fhew us, that God hath promifed the co-operatiori and affiftance of his grace to force, / and not to preaching ? The contrary whereof, has more of appearance. Preaching and perfuafion are not competent means, you fay j Why ? becaufe, without the co-operation ^ your own rule not lawful. For till God hath pronounced this fenteuee fefre, ©^ a^y one. Make his heart fat, etc. the ordinary means of inftruSion and perfiiafiofl, may, by the afliftance of God's grace, prevail. And when this fe^tenee is once paffed upon them, and God will not e^ord them his grace t& heal them j I take it, you confefs in this place, I am fure you muft confefs your forc^ to be wholly ufelefs, and fo utterly impertinent, unilefe that can be pertinent to be ufed, which you own can do nothing. So that whether it willfolkw or no, from mens being given up to a reprobate mind, for having refifted the preaching of falvation, that no good can be done by penalties upon otherj ; this will follow, that not kaowing whether preaching may not, by the grace of God, yet work upon them j or whether the . day of grace be paft with them'j neither you nor any body eife can fay that force is necejfary ; and if it be not necejfary, you youf felf tell us it is not to be ufed. Ibid. In your next paragraph, you complain of me, as reprefenting your argur- ment, . as you fay, I commonly do, as f yon allow' d any magijirate, of what re^ ligion foever, to lay penalties upon all that diffent from him. Unhappy magif- trates that have not your allowance ! But to confole them, I imagine they •will find that they are all under the fame obligation, one as another, to propa- gate the religion they believe to be the true, whether you allow it them or no. For to go no further than the firft words of your argument, which you complain I have mifreprefented, and which you tell me runs thus. When men fly from the means of right information ; I afk you here, who ftiall be judge of thofe means of right information, the magiftrate who joins force with them to make them be hearkned to, or no ? When you have anfwer'd that, you will have refolved a great part of the queftion. What magiftrates are to uiie force ? But A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 359 But that )rou may not complain again ot my mifreprefenting, I muft beg my readers leave to fet dpwnyour argument at large in your own words> and all you fay upon it. W^en men fiy from the means of a right information, and A. p, n ivifl natfo much as confider how reafonable it is, throughly and impartially to ex- amine a religion, which they imbraced upon fueh inducements, as ought to havi nofuoay at »ll in the matter, and therefore with little or no examination cf th? proper grounds ^f it % ijohat human method can be ufedto bring them to aSi likf men, in an affair of fuch confequence, aiid to make a wifer and more rational ehoice, but that hat is reafonable, in any cafe whatfoever. For you doubt not but you may fifely prefume, that the world will eafily admit thefe two things. . 1 . That though it be very ft and deftrable, that all that are of the true religion, fhoul£ underjiand the true grounds of it ; that fo they may be the better able, both .to> defend themf elves againf the affaults offeducers, and to reduce fuch as are out of' the way ; yet this is not JiriSily neceffary to their faluatien : becaufe experience Jhews fas far as men are capable to judge of fuch matters) that many do heartily believe and prof efs the true religion, and confcientiowfy praSlife the duties of it, who-yet do not underfandthe true grounds upon which it challenges their belief t and no man doubts, but whofoever doesfo believe, prof efs, and praSlife the tru& religion, if he perfeveres to the end, Jhall certainly attain falvation by it. 2. That- how much foever it concerns thofe who rejeSi the true religion (whom% mmf call diSenters if I pleafe) ta examine and confider why they dofo-, and how needful foever penalties may be ta bring them to this^ it is, however, utterly un^ reafonablel that fuch as have not the coaSiive power, ffould take upon them to. infiB penalties for thatpurpofe ; becaufe y as. that is not conffent ivith order jind 36o A THIRD LEtTER FOR TOLERATION and government^ which cannot fland, where private perfons are permitted to ttfurp the coaSlive power ; fo there is nothing more manifejl, than that the pre- judice which is done to religion, and to the intereji of mens fouls, by deflroying government, does infinitely outweigh any good that can pofjibly be done by that which defiroys it. And whoever admits and confiders thefe things, you fay, you are very fecure will be far enough from admitting, that there is any parity of reafon in the cafes we herefpeak of, or that mine is as juft and natural a con- clufion as yours. The fum of what you fay, amouiits to thus much. Men being apt to take up their religion, upon inducements that ought to have no fway at all in the matter, and fo, with little or no examination of the grounds of it ; there- fore penalties are necelTary to be laid on them, to make them throughly and impartially examine. But yet penalties need not be laid on conformifts, in England, to make them examine ; becaufe they, and you, believe yours to be the true religion : though it muft be laid on Prefbyterians and Inde- pendents, etc. to make them examine, though they believe theirs to be the true religion J becaufe you believe it not to be fo. But you give another very fubftantial reafon, why penalties cannot be laid On conformifts, to make them examine ; and that is, becaufe the national church has the coaBive power on its fide, and therefore they have no need of penalties to make them exa- mine. The national church of France too, has the coaSlive power on its fide, and therefore, they who are of it have no need of penalties, any of them, to make them examine. A. p. 1 1 If your argument be good, that men take up their religions upon wrong inducements, and without di\iQ examination of the proper grounds of it ', and that therefore they have need of penalties to be laid on them to make them examine, as they ought, the grounds of their religion ; you muft confefs there are fome in the church o^ England, to whom penalties are neceflary : unlefs you will afErm, that all, who are in the communion of the church of Eng- land, have fo examined: but that I think you will not do, however you in- deavour to palliate their ignorance and negligence in this matter. There being therefore a need of penalties, I fay, it is as neceffary that Preftiyte- rians fhould lay penalties on the conformifts of the church oi England, to make them examine, as for the church of England to lay penalties on the Preftjyterians to make them do fo : for they each equally- believe their reli- gion to be true ; and we fuppofe, on both fides, there are thofe who have not duly examined. But here you think you have a fure advantage, by faying it is not confifient with the order of government, and fo is impraSlicable. I eafily grant it. But is yours more praiflicable ? When you can make your way practicable, for the end for which you pretend it neceffary, viz. to make all, who have taken up their religion uponfuch inducements, as ought to have no fway at all in the matter, to examine throughly and impartially the pro- per grounds of it ; when, I fay, you can fhew your way pradticable, to this end, you will have cleared it of one main objeftion, and convinced the world that yours is a more juft and natural conclufion than mine. If A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION- 361 If your caufe were capable of any other defence, I fuppofe we fhould not have had fo long and elaborate an anfwer as you have given us in this para- graph, which at laft bottoms only on thefe two things : i . That there is in you, or thofe of your church, fome approaches towards infallibility, in your belief that your religion is true, which is not to be allowed thofe of other churches, in the belief of theirs. 2. That it is enough if any one does but conform to it, and remain in the communion of your church : or elfe one would think there {hould be as much need for conformifts too of your church, to examine the grounds of their religion, as for any others. To underjiand the true grounds of the true religion, is not, yon £-3.y, JlriSilyp. ^z necej/ary to fahation. Yet, I think, you will not deny, but it is zsJiriSlly neceffary to fahation, as it is to conform to a national church in all thofe things it impofes : fome whereof, are not neceffary to falvation ; fome whereof, are acknowledged by all to be indifferent j and fome whereof, to fome confcientious men, who thereupon decline communion, appear un- ibund or unlawful. If not being JlriSlly neceffary to falvation, will excufe from penalties in the one cafe, why will it not in the other ? And now I fhall excufe the world from determining my conclufion to be as natural as yours : for it is pity fo reafonable a difputant as you are, fliould take fo defperate a refblution as never to pretend anj more to judge 'what is reafonable in any cafe ■ •ujhatfoever. Whether you have proved that force, ufed by the magiflrate, be a means prefcribed by God to procure the gift of faith from him, which is all you fay in the next paragraph, others muft judge. In that following ; you quote thefe words of mine. " If all the means " God has appointed to make men hear and confider, be exhortation in fea- ** fon and out of feafon, etc. together with prayer for them, and the ex- *' ample of meeknefs, and a good life ; this is all ought to be done, whether " they will hear, or whether they will forbear." To which you thus reply. But if thefe he not all the means God has appointed, then thefe things are not all?. 43 that ought to be done. But if I afk you. How do you know that this is not all God has appointed ; you have nothing to anfwer, to bring it to your pre- fent purpofe, but that you know it by the light of nature. For all you fay is but this ; that by the light of nature you know force to be ufeful and ne- ceffary to bring men into the way of falvation ; by the light of nature you know the magifTtrate has a commiffion to ufe force to that purpofe i and by the fame light of nature, you know that miracles were appointed to fupply ,the want of force till the magiflrates were Chrifl:ians. I imagine, Sir,. you would Jcarce have thought this a reafonable anfwer, if you had taken notice of my words in the fame paragraph immediately preceding thofe you have cited J which, that you may fee the fcope of my argument, I will here trouble you with again; and they are thefe : " It is not for you and me, L. II, p. 84 " out of an imagination that they may be dfeful, or are neceffary, to pre- " fcribe means in the great and myfterious work of falvation, other than «' what God himfelf has diredted. God has appointed force as ufeful and «' neceffary, and therefore it is to be ufedj is a way of arguing becoming A a a " the 362 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION " the ignorance and humility of poor creatures. But I think force ufeful " or neceflary, and therefore it is to be ufed, has methinks a little too much " prefumption in it. You zik what means elfe is there left ? None, fay I, *' to be ufed by man, but what God himfelf has directed in the Scriptures, *' wherein are contained all the means and methods of falvation. Faith is the *' gift of God. And we are not to ufe any other means to procure this gift " to any one," but what God himfelf has prefcribed. If he has there ap- " pointed, that any fhould be forced to hear thofe wfjO tell them they have *' mijiaken their "way, and offer to Jhenis them the right ; and that they fhould " be puniflied by the magiftratei if they did not ; it will be paft doubt, it *' is to be made ufe of. But till that can be done, it will- be in vain to fay, " what other means is there lefty My argument here lies plainly in this ; That all the means and methods t>f falvation are contained in the Scripture : which either you were to have denied, or €iit. have fliewh where it was, In Scripture, that force Was ap- pointed. But inftead of that, you tell us, that God appointed miracles in the beginning of the GoiJpel. And though, when thefe ceafed, the means I mention were all the minifters had left, yet this proves not that the ma- ^' 43 giftrate was not to ufe force. Your words are, Ai to thefirfi fpreaders of the iB-oJpel, it has already been Jhemn, that Godapfointed ether means befides thefe foj- th'em to ufe, to induce men to hear and conjider : and though, when thofe ex- traordinary means ceafed, thefe means which Y mention fviz. Preaching, etc.) were the. only means left to the minifkrs of the Gofpel ; yet that is no proof that the magiftrate, when he became Chrijiian, could not lawfully ufe fucb means as his Jiation inabled him to ufe, when they became needful. I faid, in exprefs "words, " No means was to be ufed by man, but what God himfelf has di- " redled in the Scripture." And you anfwer. This is no proof that theChri- ftian magijirate may not ufe force. Perhaps when they fo peremptorily in- terpofe their decifive decrees in the bufinefs of falvation, eftablifli religions by laws and penalties, with what articles, creeds, ceremonies and difcipline they think fit ; for this we fee done almoft in all countries, when they force men to hear thofe, and thofe only, who by their authority are chofen and al- lowed to tell men they have mijiaken their way, akd offer tojhew them the right j it may be. thought neceffary to prove magiftrates to be men. If that needs no ^ proof, what I faid needs fome other anfwer. But let us examine a little the parts of what you here fay. ^s to thefirfi fpreaders of the Gofpel, fay you, it has already been Jhewn^ that God appointed other means befides exhortation in feafon and outoffeafon, prayer, and the example of a good life, for them to ufe to induce men to hear and confdef. What were thofe other means ? To that you anfwer readily, miracles. Ergo., men are diredted now by Scripture to ufe miracles. Or elfe what anfwer do^ you make to my argument, which I gave voir in thele words, " No meafts " is to be ufed by man, but what God himfelf has Jireded in the Scrip- f* tures, wherein are contained all the means and methods of falvation." No, they cannot ufe miracles now as a means, fay you, for they have them not. What then ? Therefore the magiftrate, who has it, muft ufe force to fupply A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION fupply the want of thofe extraordinary means which are now ceafid. This in- deed is an inference of yours, but not of the Scriptures. Does the Scripture fay any thing of this ? Not a word -, not fo much as the leaft intimation to- wards it in all the New Teftament. Be it then true or falfe, that force is a means to be ufed by men in the abfence of miracles, this is yet no anfwer to my argument j this is no proof that it is appointed in Scripture j which is the thing my argument turns on. Revelation then fails you. Let us fee now how reafon and common fenfe, that common light of nature, will help you out. You then reafon thus : bare preaching, etc. will not prevail on men to bear andconfider; and therefore fome other means is neceJJ'ary to make thcin do fo. ■ Pray what do you mean by men, or any other of thofe indefinite terms, you have always ufed in this cafe? Is it that bare preaching will prevail on no men? Does reafon, under which I comprehend experience too, and all the ways of knowledge, coatra-diftinguilhed to revelation, difcover any filch thing to you ? I imagine you will not fay that ; or pretend that no body was ever brought, by preaching and perfuafion, to hear and conjider the truths of the Gofpel, mean by conjidering what you will, without other means ufed by thofe who applied themfelvcs to the care of converting them.. To fuch there- fore as may be brought to hear and confider, without other means^ you will not fay that other means are necefTary. In the next place, therefore. When you fay bare preaching will not pre- vail on men, do you mean that it will not prevail on all men, arid therefore . . it is neceijary that men fhould ufe other means ? Neither, I think, will rea- fon authorize you to draw fuch a confequence : becaufe neither will preach- ing alone,' nor preaching aflifted with force, or any other means man can ufe, prevail on all men. And therefore no other means can be pretended to be neceffary to be ufed byman, to do what men by thofe means never did, nor ever can do. ' That fome men fliall be faved, and not all, is, I think, paft ^queftion to all that are Chriftians : and thofe that fliall be faved, it is plain, are the eleB. If you think not this plain enough in Scripture, I defire you to turn to the feventeenth of the XXXIX articles of the church of England, where you will read thefe words : Fredejiinaiion to life is the eveflajiing purpofe of God, whereby f before the foundations ofthenvorld were laid J he hath conjiantly decreed ky his counfel fecret to us, to deliver from curfe and damnation thofe fwhsm, he has chofen in Chrifi out of mankind, and to bring them by Chriji to ever lofting fahation, as veffels made to honour. Wherefore they which be in^- duedwithfo ex£ellent a benefit of God, be called according to God' s purpofe by his fpirit working in due fe of on : they through grace obey the calling ; they be jufiified freely ; they be madefons of God by adoption ; they be made like the image of his only begotten Son Jefus Chrifi; they walk religioufiy in good works ; and at length, by God's mercy, they attain to everlafiing felicity. Now pray tell me whether bare preaching will not prevail on all the ele6i to hear knd confi- 4er, without other means to be ufed by men. If you fay it will ; the necef- fity of your other means, I think, is out of doors. If you fay it will not ; A a a 2 I A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION I defire you to tell me how you do know it without revelation ? And whether by your own reafon you can tell us, whether any, and what means God has made necelTary, befides what he has appointed in Scripture for the calling his eJeB ? When you can do this, we fhall think you no ordinary divine, nor a ftrangcr to the fecret counfels.of the infinitely wife God. But till then, your mixing your opinion with the divine wifdom in the great work of fal- vation, and from arguments of congruity, taking upon you to declare the ne- ceffity or ufefulnefs of means, which God has not exprefsly diredled, for the gathering in of his ek£}, will fcarce authorize the magiftrate to ufe his co- aBive power for the edifying and compleating the body of Chrift, which is his church. Thofe whom God hath chojin in Chriji out of mankind, before the the foundations of the world, are called, according to God's purpqfe, by hisfpi- rit, working in duefeafon, and through grace obey the calling ; fay you in your article. The outward means that God has appointed for this, is preaching. Ay, but preaching is not enough j that is, is not fufficient means, fay you. And I alk you how you know it ; fince the Scripture, which declares all that we can know in this matter, fays nothing of the infufficiency of it, or of the necefiity of any other ? Nor can there be a neceffity of any other means than what God exprefsly appoints, in a matter wherein no means can operate effectually, without the affiftance of his grace j and where the affift- ance of his grace can make any outward means, he appoints, effeftual." I muft defire you here to take notice, that by preaching, which I ufe for fliortnefs, I mean exhortation, inftrudlion, intreaty, praying for, and in fine, any outward means of perfuafion in the power of man, feparate from force. 43 You tell us here, ^s to the firfi fpreaders of the Gofpel, God appointed ether means, viz. miracles, for them to ufe to induce men to hear and confder. If by the frji fpreaders of the Gofpel, you mean the twelve Apoftles and ie- venty Difciples^ whom Chrift himfelf fent to preach the Gofpel j they in- deed were appointed by his immediate command, to {hew miracles by the power which be had beftowed upon them. But will you fay, all the mi- nifters^ and preachers of the Gofpel had fuch a commiffion, and fuch a power, all along from the Apoftles time; and that they, every one, did aftually (hew m'iracles, to induce men to hear and confder, quite down, till Chrijlianity was fupported by the law of the empire f Unlefs you could fhew this, though you could produce fome well-attefted miracles, done by fome men in every age till that time, yet it would not be ^fufficient to prove that miracles were appointed to be conftantly ufed to induce men to hear andconjider j and fo by your reafoning, to fupply the want of force, till that neceffary affift- ance could be had from the authority of the magiftrate become Chriftian. For fince it is what you build upon, that men will not h^ar and canfder upon bare preaching, and I think you will forwardly enough agree, that till Chrijiianity war made the religion of the empire, there were thofe every where that heard the preachers of it fo little, or fo little confidered what they faid, that they re- jefted the Gofpel ; and that therefore miracles or force are neceffary means to make mea hear and conftder j you muft own that thofe who preached with- out, A THIRD LEtTER FOR TOLERATION out the power of miracles, or the coaftive power of the magiftrate accom- panying them, were unfurnifhed oicomfetent andfufficient means to make men hear andconjider j and fo to bring them to the true religion. If you will fay the miracles done by others were enough to accompany their preaching, to make it be heard and confidered ; the preaching of the minifters at this day is fo accompanied, and fo will need no affiftance of force from the magiftrate. If the report of miracles done by one minifter of the Gofpel fome time be- fore, and in another place, were fufEcient to make the preaching of ten or a thoufand others, he heard and can/idered, why is it not fo now? For the credibility and atteftation of the report is all that is of moment ; when mi- racles done by others, in other places, are the.argument that prevails. But this, I fear, will not ferve your turn in the bufinefs of penalties; and whatever might fatisfy you in the cafe of miracles, I doubt you would not think the falvation of fouls fufficiently provided for, if the report of the force of penalties, ufed fome timer fince on one fide of the 'Tweed', were all that ihould affift the preachers of the true religion on the other, to make men hear and conjider. St. Paul, in his epiftle to Titus, inftru^Ss him what he, and the Prefbyters he fhould ordain in the cities of Crete, were to do for the propagating of the Gofpel, and bringing men heartily to imbrace it. His direftions are, that they fliould be blamelefs, not rioters, not felf-willed, notfoon angry, not given to wine or filthy lucre, not Jirikers, not unruly; lovers of hofpitalify, and of good men ; fober^jiiji, holy, temperate; to be able by found doBrine, both to ex- hort and convince gainfayers ; in all things to be a pattern of good works ; in do6irine fhewing uncorruptednefs, gravity , fncerity, found fpeech that cannot be ' condemned, that he that is of the contrary part may be ajhamed, having no evil. to fay of you. Thefe things fpeak, and exhort, and rebuke, with all authority^ Avoid foolijhquejiions, and genealogies, and contentions. A man that is an he- retic after thefirft andfecond admonition, rejeSl. To repay you the favour of your 'Greek, it is 7ra^a/7» i which, if I may take your liberty of receding frorrt our tranflation, I would read avoid. The Cretans, by the account St. Paul gives of them, were a people that would require all the means that were needful to prevail with any ftrangers to the Gofpel, to hear and confider. But yet we find nothing direfted for the fupport and propagation of the Gofpel in this ifland, but preaching, exhortation, reproof, etc. with the example of a good life. In all this epiftle, wrft on purpofe to inftrudt the preachers of the Gofpel, in the means they were to ufe among the Cretans, for their converfion, not a word about miracles, their power or ufe : which one would think ftrange, if they were the means appointed, and neceffary to- make men hear and confider, and without which they would^ot do it. Preaching, admonition, exhortation',., intreaties, inftrudion-, by the common light of reafoa , were known, and. natural to be ufed, to perfuade men. There needed not much be faid to- convince men of it. But if miracles were a neceffary mean5, it was a means wholly newj unexpected, and out of the power ©f other teachers* And therefore one would think, if they were appointed for the ends you propofe^ ^66 A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION propofe, one-fhould hear fomething of that appointment : fince that they were to be ufed ; or how, and when ; was farther from common apprehen- fion, and feems to need fome particular diredlion. If you fay the fame fpirit that gave them the power of miracles, would alfo give them the knowledge both that they had it, and how to ufe it ; I am far enough from limiting the operations of that infinitely wife Spirit, who will not fail to bring all the ded: of God into the obedience of truth, by thofe means, and in that manner he fliall think neceffary. But yet our Sa- viour, when he fent abroad his difciples, with the power of miracles, not only put it in their commiffion, whereby they were informed that they had that extraordinary gift, but added inftrudlions to them in the ufe of it. ^redy you have received^ freely give ; a caution as neceflary to the Cretan el- ders, in the ufe of miracles, if they had that power j there being nothing more lia,ble to be turned to the advantage oi filthy lucre. I do not queftion but the fpirit of God might give the power, and ftir up the mind of the firft ipreaders oi the -Golpel to do miracles on forhe extra- ordinary occafion. But if they were a necefTary means to naake men hear and confider what was preached to them, till force fupplied their place, and fo were ordinarily to accompany the preaching of the Gofpel, «nlefs it fhould be preached without the means appointed and neceflary to m^ke it prevail, I think, in that cafe, we may expedt it fhould exprefsly have made a part of the preacher's commiflion j it making a neceffary part of^ the efFedtual execu- tion of his fund:ion. But the Apoftle, it feems, thought fit to lay the ftrefs upon inftrudling Others, and living well themfelves ; upon being inftant infeafon, and out of Jeafon; and therefore dire<9:s all his advices for the ordering the Cretan church, and the propagating the Gofpel there, , to make them attend to thofe neceflary things of life and do£trine, without fo much as mentioning the appointment, need, or ufe of miracles. I/. II, p. 84 I /aid, " But whatever negleft or averfion there is in fome men, impar- ** tially and throughly to be inftrufted j there will, upon a due examina- ** tion, I fear, be found no lefsanegled: and averfion in others, impartially *' and throughly to inftirudt them. It is not the talking even general truths ** in plain and clear language j much lefs a man's own fancies in fcholaftical " or uncommon ways of fpeaking, an hour or two, once a week, in public j " that is enough to inftrud: even willing hearers in the way of falvation, and *' the grounds of their religion :" and that politic difcourfes and inveftives from the pulpit, inftead of friendly and Chriftian debates with people at their houfes, were not the proper means to inform men in the foundations of religion ; and that if there were not a negledt in this part, I thought there would be little need of any other means. To this, you tell me, in the next P. 43 paragraph, you do not fee how pertinent my difcourfe, about this matter, is to the prefent queftion. If the ihewing the neglecSs, obfervable in the ufe of what is agreed to be neceffary means, will not be allowed by you to be per- tinent, in a debate about neceffary means j when poflSbly thofe very neglefibs may ferve to make other means feem requifite, which really are not fo ; yet if A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 3^ if yOQ are not of thofe who will never think any fuch difconf&^rtinent, you will allow me to- mind you of it again, as not impertinent in anfwer to j^our laft letter, wherein you fo often tell us of thefufficient provifion made for in- firuBion. For wherever the negled be, it can fcarce be faid there 1% fuffi- c'lent pro'Vifion made for inftrudion in a Chriftian country, where great num- bers of thofe, who are in the communion of the national church, are grofly ignorant of the grounds of the Chriftian religion. And I afk you, whether it be in refpedt of fuch conformifts you fay, as you do in the fame paragraph. That when the befi provifion is made that can be, for the inJiruBion of the P. 43, people, yon fear a great part of them will Jiill need fame moderate penalties to Sring them to hear and receive inftruSiion S But what if all the means that can, be not ufed for their inftrudtion ? That there are negle(9:s of this kind, you will, I fuppofe, take the word of a reverend prelate of our church, who thought he could not better Jhew his good-will to the clergy, than by a feafonable Difcourfe of the Pajioral Care, to cure that negle it not, and £b could have no right to ufe force on thofe they judg0Aii^ia^iarj''^a»K the true reH^n j yoa ought to bethink yourfelf what you will lepfy to one that fhoul'd ufe your A. p. 16 own words ; Ifjucha degpeeofoutteard force:, as: has: been mentkmedy bermMyt of great and even neeeffary ntfe, far the advanung; ^ the true reiigiony, amlJaU vatian offauls, then itmufi be aeknsmUd^dr t^at in France; and Tmke^, etc. there is a right fifneitihere to i*fi it^Jn'tJoe as^armmg thafe ends; ufd^we ^lifay (what without impiety ccmnot h faid) that the- -wifo and bittigm^if-' pafir and Governor of all things, has not in France and Turkey fwmiflid mankind ivith competent means for the pramotmg his. awn henour, and the ^od. offouls. You go on, and tell us, they are to be puriiflied;^ not for Ibllawing the light of their own reafon, nor for obeying the diflates of tiieir own con* I*. 44. fciences, but rather for the contrary. For the light of their own reafm, and the diSl'ates of their own confcience (if their rsafm and their confciences were not perverted and abufedj "would undoul^edfy lead tkem to the fame things, to: which the method yon fpeak of is defgned to- bping them ; L e.. to the fame thing to - which your rea/bn and'your tronfcienceleadsyou.. Forif yott were toargue witb aPapift, or a Prefbyterian, in the cafe, what privitege base you to tell hinv that his reafon and confcience is perverted, more, than he has to tell ^u that yours is fo ? Unlefs it be this infupportable prefumption, that yom reafom and confcience ought to be the meafure of all reafon and. cmfcience in all others, which how you can claim, without pretending to. iirfailrhiEty, is not eafy to difcern. • The diverfion you give yourfelf about the likenefe and unlikenefs of thofe two pleas, I (hall not trouble myfelf widi j finee, when, your fit of mirth IP. 45 was over, you were forced to confefs. That as I have made your plea for" you, you think thereis no con/idsrabk d^'erence, as to the fairnefe of them-f.. excepting "what arifes from the -different degrees of punijhment, irt the Frerich; difcipline, and your method. But if the French 'plea be not true ; and that- nvhich 1 make td.be yours, be notyouts; 1 muft beg your pardon. Sir, I did' not think it was your opinion, nor do I yet remember that you anjr where faid in your '* Argument" eOc. that men wei-e to be puniftied for their religion ; but that it was ptrrely to make men examine the religion they, had imbracedi md the religion- that they had re/e^ed. And. if that were of • moment. A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION moment, I fhould think myfelf fiifficientiy juftified for this my mif- lake, hy what you fay in your " 4r^ntenti' etc. from p. 6 to iz. Bat £nce you explain yourfeif other wife here, I am not unwUling to take youf hyiJothefis, as you from time to time fliali pleafe to reform it. You anfwer then, That to make them examine, is indeed the next -end for which they are to p. 45 iepmiifhed. But what is that to my queftion ? Wiiich» if it be pertinent^ demands for what fault, not for what end, they are to be puniihed : as ap- J3>ears«ven by jaiy next words, " So tiiat they are punifbed, not for having " -ofiended agaidift a law, i. e. not for any fault -, for there is no law in l^ng- " kmd that requires them to examine." This, I muft cofifefs, was to fhew> that here, as in France^ whatever was pretended, yet the true reafon why people were punifbed, was their religion. And it was for this agreem€!nt> that in both places religion was meant, though fcmething elfe was talked cS^ that I faid your plea was like that made ufe of in France. But I fee I Jiiight have spared my pains to prove that you puniflidi&nters for thek reli- gion, fiuce you here own it. You tdl me, in the fame place, I was impertioent in my que^ion, which was this, For ^iihaHhen are they te he puwfia d? that I detnaaded for what* end, and not for -wh^sJiffiult they are to be puniflied. In good-earneft. Sir, I was not fo fiibtile as to 4iftinguilh them. I always thought that the citd<£ «ll laws was to amend thofe faults which were forbidden > and that when any one was punifbed, th&fmdt for which he was punifhed, was the tranf- greffion of the law, in that particular -w^ich was by the law commanded or forbidden j and the end of the punifhment, was the amendment of ih^^fmk for the future. For example; if the law commanded to ;&^(W, not hearing was the &uk puoiflied ; and the end of that punifliment, was to make the D&.nd&i&Meflr. 1£ the law commanded to examine, default punifh'd, when that law was put in execution, was not examining j and the end of the pu- nifljment, to make the offenders examine. If the law commanded con- formity, the fault was nonconformity, and the ^nd of it to make mea conforiia. This Was my apprehenfion concerning laws, and ends of punifhments. And I m^ufl own rnyfelf ftill fo dull as not to diflinguifli oth^wife between Xh^ fault for "which men are to be punijhed^ and the end for 'which they are to be punijhed; but only as the one is pa^, the other future. The tranfgreffion, or fault, i^ an omifTion or adion that a man is already guilty of; the end of th6 punifbment, that it be not again repeated. So that' if a man be punifhed for the religion he profefies, I can fee no other end for which he is punifhed, but to make him quit tiat rpligicai. No other immediate end I mean ; for other remote ends, to wliich this is fubordinate, it may have. So that if not examining the religion which men have imbraced, and the religion they have ipejefted, be not the fault for rwhichmen are puniflied -, I would be glad you would fhew me how it can be the next end, as you fay it is, of their be- ing puniflied. And that you may not think .my duUnefs gives you a la- bour without ground, I will tell you-jhe re-af0n why I (Cannot find any other B b b 2 next %7^ A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION next end q£ punifliment, but the amendment of the fault forbidden j and that is, becaufe that feems to me to be the end, the next end, of ahy adlion ; which, when obtained, the adtion is to ceafe, and not ceafe till it be at- tained. And thus, I think, it is in punifhments ordained by the law, •When the fault forbidden is amended, the punifhment is to ceafe, and not till then. This is the only way I have to know the end, or final caufe for which any adtion is done. If you have any other, you will do me a kind- nefs to inftrudl me. This it is which makes me conclude, and I think with me all thofe who have not had the leifure and happinefs to attain the ut- moft refining of the fchools, that if their religion be the fault for which diflTenters are punilhed, examining is not the end for which, they are pu- •nifhed, but the change of their religion : though examining may, perhaps, in fome men, precede their change, and help to it. But that is not neeef- fery. A man may change his religion without it : and when he has changed, let the motive be what it will, the ^«^ the lavir aims at, is ob- tained, and the punifliment ceafes. So on the other fide, if not hearing, not Examining, be the fault for which men are puniflied, conformity is not the next end for which they are puniflied, though it may perhaps, in ibme, be a confequence of it j but hearing and examining muft be underftood to be the ends for which they are puniflied. If they are not the ends, why does the puniflirrient ceafei^ when thofe 'ends are attained ? And thus you have my thoughts concerning this matter, which perhaps will not be very pertinent, as mine have not the good luck always to be to you, to a man of nicer difiiindlions. But let us confider your hypothefis as it now ftands, and fee what advan- tage you have got to your caufe by this new explication. Diffenfers Jrom the true religion are to be pumjh'd, fay you, for their religion. Why ? Be- caufe it is 2i fault. Againfl whom ? Againft God. Thence it follbws in- deed, that God, if he pleafes, may punifli it. But how will you prove that God has given the magifl:rates of the earth a power to punifh all faults againft himfelf ? Covetoufnefs, or not loving our neighbour as oUrfelves^ are •faults or fins againft God. Ought the magiftrate to punifli thefe ? But I ihall not need to trouble you much with that queftion. This matter, I think, will be decided between us without going fo far. If the magiftrate may punifli any one for' not being of the true religion, muft the magiftrate judge what is that true religion, or no ? If he muft not, what muft guide him in the punifliing of fome, and not of others ? For fo it is in all places where there is a national religion eftabliflied by penal laws. Jf the magiftrate be commiflioned by the fame law of nature, for that is all the commifllon you pretend to, to judge what is the true religion, by which he is authorized to punifli thofe who diflent from it ; muft not alt ma- giftrates judge, and accordingly punifli thofe who diflTent from that, which they judge the true religion, /. e. in effect, thofe who difi^ent from theirs ? And if all magiftrates have a power to punifli thofe who are not of their religioBj I zfk you, Whether it be of more ufe or difadvantage ta the pro- moting A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 373 mating true religion, and fahatien of fouls ? And when you have refolved u- 5"^^^°"' y°^ ^^^^ t^en be able to tell me, whether the ufefulnefs of it, which muft be determined by the greater good or harm it is like to do, is R J^/° j"^^fy yo"f dodlrine about it, or the magiftrate's ufe of it. Befides, your making the diflenting from the true religion a yaw// to be puniflied by the magiftrate, puts an end to your pretence to moderate punifli- ments; which, in this place, you make ufe of to diftinguifli yours from the French method -, faying. That your method punijhes men with punipments which do not deferve to be called Jo, ivhen compared with thofe of the French difciplim. But if the diflenting from the true religion, be zfauh that the magiftrate is to punifh, and & fault of that confequence, that it draws with it the lofs of a man's foul ; I do not fee how other magiftrates, whofe duty it is to punifh faults under their cognizance, and by puniQiing to amend jhem, can be more remifs than the king of France has been, and forbear declaring that they will have all their people faved, and indeavour by fucfe ways as he has 4one to eifed it : efpecially fince you tell us, That Go^ now P. 8 leaves religion to the care of men, under his ordinary providence, to try whether they cflnji@t buJt allow, that . fuch a mifapplipation oi force ma^ dp fiMe ferwce indinSiy and At a Jijiance, towards the Jadvatlon of fouls. - i But that you may not thi,nk, whilft I h^ juafer coafideration the dangerous incourageosent you gavie to mjsu in ^ower, to he very bufy with jheir force in matters of aseligign, hy aU the ferts of uiiefdteeife you could imagine of it, however appli^, - right or wrong, that i declined mentioning the mcejfity yon jwetend of force, hee^ufe It would not as well ferve to the purpofe for which I mention its ufefialnefs ; I fhall here take it fo, that the reader jm^y fee what neafon youiia«i to complain of my not do- ing \it befofe. . Thus then brands your fyflem. 'The frosuring .and .aAiiimcing .ai^ifway ^ the fpiritml and etarnt^ interefis of men, is one of the ends > . you are content to have i% prefumable, with- out any further inquiry or examination. And thofe who are once in the the outward communion of the national church, however ignorant or irre- ligious they are, you leave there unaffifted by your only competent means, force; without which, you tell us, the true religiou, by its own light and firength, is not able to prevail againft mens lufts, and the corruption of na- ture, fo as to be confidered as it ought, and heartily imbraced. And this dropped not from your pen by chance ; but you profeiTedly make excufes fot thofe of the national religion* who are ignorant of the grounds of it,, and give us reafons why force cannot be ufed to thofe who outwardly con- form, to make them confider fo as fincerely to imbrace, believe and obey the truth that muft fave them. But the reverend author of the Pajioral Care C c c tells 378 ' A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION tdk yott, p. 201, PARTY is the true name rf makh^ converts, except the^ become at the fame time p>ad men. ' If the ufe of force be neceffary for the falvation of fouls, and mens foul* be the party you write for; you will be fufpetfted to have betrayed your party, if your method and neceflary means of falvation reada no further^ than to bring men to outward conformity, thottgh to the true dburch -, and after that abandons them to their Injh and depraved natures, deftitute of tb? help offeree, yaar necejfary and con^etent means 6i iAvzXktti. This way of managing the matter, whatever you intend, feems rather> in the fitnefs of it, to be for anorfier party. But fince you affure us, you Asrrite for nothing but Gad and mens fouls, it can only be faid you had a. good intention, . but ill luck ; iince your fchemey put into the language of the country, will fit any national church and clergy in the world, that can hut fuppofe itfelf the true ; and that I prefume none of them will fail to do. You were more than ordinary referved and graciolts, when you tell me, P- 79 That what party I write far, you will not undertake to fay. But having told me, diat my Letter tends ta the promoting ef foeptic^m in religion, yoti thought, it is like, that was fufficient to fhew the party I write for ; and fo you might fafely end your Letter with words that looked Kke civil. But that you may another time be a little better informed what party I write for, I will tell you. They are thofe wiio in every nation j^ar God, work righte- oufnefs, and are accepted with him j and not thofe who in every nation are zealous for human conftitutions, cry up nothing fo much as outward con- formity to the national religion, and are accepted by thofe who are the pro- moters of it. Thofe that I write for are thofe, who, according to the light of their own cbnfci^ices, are every where in earn^ in matters of their own falvation, without any defire to impofe on others ; z party fo feldom favoured by any of the powers of fedts of the world ; a party that has fo few prefer- ments t<5 beftow i fo few benefices to reward the indeavour of any one who appears for it, that I conclude I fhall eafily be believed when I fay, that nei- ther hopes qf preferment, nor a defign to recommend myfelf to thofe I livei amongfi, has biafled my underftanding, or mifled me in my undertaking. So much truth as ferves the turn of any particular church, and can be accom- modated to the narrow intereft of fbme human conftitution, is indeed often received with applaufe, and the publifher finds his account in it. But I think I may fay, truth, in its full latitude of thofe generous principles of the Gofpel, which fo much recommend and inculcate univerfal charity, and a freedom from the inventions and impofitions of men in the things of God, has fo feldom had a fair and favourable hearing any where, that he muft be very ignorant of the hiftory and nature of man, however dignified and diflin- guiftied, who propofes to himfelf any fecular advantage by writing for her at that rate. As to your requeft in the clofe of your letter, 1 hope this will fatisfy you, that you might have Ipared it ; and you, with the reft of the world, wiU fee that A THIRD LETTER FOR TOLERATION 375 that all I writ in my former was fo true, that you need not have given me any caution for the future. As to the pertinence of what I fay, I doubt whether I (hall pleafe you j becaufe I find by your laft Letter, that what is brought by me to ftiew the weaknefs, abfurdities, or infignificancy of what you write, you are very apt to call impertinent, and nothing to the purpofe. You muft pardon me therefore, if I have indeavoured more to pleafe ottier readers than you in that point. I hope they will find, in what I have faid, not much befides the matter. But to a man who, fuppofing himfelf in the right, builds all upon that fuppbfition, and takes it for an injury to have that privilege denied him; to a man who would fovereignly decide for all the the world, what is the true religion, and thereby impower what magiftrates he thinks fit, and what not, to ufe force ; to fuch a man, not to feem im- pertinent, would be really to be fo. This makes me pleafed with your re- ply to fo many paflages of my Letter, that they were nothing to the purpofe : and it is in your choice whether in your opinion any thing in this fhall be fo. But fince this depends upon your keeping fteadily to clear and fettled no- tions of things, feparate from words and expreffions ufed in a doubtful and undetermined fignification, wherewith men of art often amufe themfelves and F. 78 othersi I ihall not be fo unreafonable as to expeft, whatever you promife, that you (hould lay by your learning to imbrace truth, and own what will not perhaps fute very well with your circumftances and intereft. I fee, my defign not to omit any thing that you might think looks like an argument in yours, has made mine grow beyond the fize of a letter. But an anfwer/to any one being very little different from a letter, I fhall let it go under that title. I have in it alfo indeavoured to bring the fcattered parts of your fcheme into fome method, under diftindt heads, to give a fuller and more diftinft view of them ; wherein, if any of the arguments, w^ich give fupport to your hypothefis, have efcaped me unawares, be pleafed to fliew them me, and I fhall either acknowledge their force, or indeavour to fliew their v^eaknefs. I am, Sir, June 20, 1692 Your moft humble fervant^ Philanthropus, C c c 2 A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION *A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION Sir, A frefh revival of the controverfy formerly between you and me, is v^^hat I fuppofe no body did expedt from you after twelve years filence. But repur tation, a fufficient caufe fo^ a new war, as you give the world to under-? ftand, hath put reiblution into your heart, and arms into your hands to make an example of me, to the, fhame and confufion of all thofe who could be fo injurious to you, as to think you could quit the opinion you had appeared for in print, and agree with me in the matter of Toleration. It is vifible how tender even men of the moft fettled calmnefs are in point of reputation, and it is allowed the moft exicufable part of human frailty ; and therefore no body can wonder to fee a report thought iipurious laboured againft with might and main, and the affiftance and caufe of religion itfelf taken in and made ufe of to put a flop to it. But yet for all this there are fober men who are of opinion, tiiat it better becomes a Chriftian temper, that difputes, e^e- cially of religion, fhould be waged purely for the fake of truth, and not for tjur own : felf fhould have nothing to do in them. But fince as we fee it will croud itfelf in, and be often the principal agent, your ingenuity in owning what has brought 3rou upon the ftagCragain, and fet you on work, after the eafe and quiet you refolutely maintained yourfelf in fo many years, ought to be comrnehded, in giving us a view of the difcreet choice you have made of a method fuited to your purpofe, wliich you publifli to the world in thefe wordsy p. 2. Being dejirous to put a fiop to a report fo injurious, as well as ^roundk/s, as I look upon this to be, I think it isoUl be no improper way of doing it, if I thus fignify to you and the reader, that I find nothing more con- vincing in this your long letter, than I did in your two former ; giving withal a brief specimen of the anfwerablenefs of it : which I choofe to do upon a few pages at the beginning, where you have placed your greateji firength, or at leqftfo much of it,- as you think fifficient to put an end to this controverfy. Here we have your declaration oS. war, of the grounds that moved you to it, and of your compendious way to affiared vidory, which I muft own is very new and very remarkable. You choofe a few pages out of the beginning .of my Third Letter; in thefe, you fay, I have placed my greatef Jlrength, So, that what 1 have there faid being baffled, it gives you a juft triumph over * In anfwer to « A Second Letter to the Author of the nree Letters far Toleratioti. From « the Author of the Argument of the Letter concerning Toleration briefly confidered and an- " fwered. And of the Defence of it. With a Poftfcript, taking fome notice of two pafFages *« in The JR.ights of the PrateJlantDiJenteru" my 3B4 A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION my whole long.Letter ; and all the reft of it being but pitiful, weak, imper- tinent ftuff, is by the overthrow of this forlorn hope fully confuted. This is called anfwering by specimen. A new way, which the world owes to your invention, an evidence that whilft you faid nothing you did not fpare thinkisg. And indeed it was a. noble thought, a ftratagem, which I believe fcarce any other but yourfelf would have found out in a invitation of twice twelve years, how to anfwer arguments without faying a word to them, or fo much as reciting them i and, by examining fix or {even pages in thebeginningof a bookj reduce to nothing above three hundred pages of it that follow. This is indeed a dectjive Jiroke that lays all flat Before you. Who fcan ftand againft fuch a conqueror, who, by barely attacking of one, kills a« hundred ? This would certainly be an admirable way, did it not degrade the conqueror, whofe bufinefs is to do j and turn him into a meer talking gazet- teer, whofe boafl;s are of no confequence. For after flaughter of foes, and. routing of armies by fuch a dead-doing hand, no hody thinks it ftrange to find them all alive again fafe and found upon their feet, and in a pofture of .de- fending themfelves. The event, in all forts of controverfies, hath pftea better inftrudted thofe who have, without bringing it to trial, pfefumed on the weaknefs of their ^dverlaries. However, this which you haVe fet up, of con- Tuting without arguing, cannot be denied to he a ready way, and "well thought on to fet you up high, and your reputation fecure in the thoughts of your believing readers, if that be, as it feems it is, your bufinefs j but, as I take it, tends not at all to the informing their underfliafidings, and making them fee the truth and grounds it ftands on. That perhaps is toornuch for the pjrofane vulgar to know; it is enough for them that you know it for them, and have aflured them, that you can, when you pleafe to condefeend fo far, confound all that any one offers againft your opinion. An implicit faith of your being in the right, and afcfibing viftofy to you, even in' points whereof you have faid nothing, is that which fdme fort of men think moft ufeful, and fo their followers have but tongues for their cliampioh to give him the praife and au- thority he aims at, it is na matter whether they hav6 any eyes for themfelves to fee on which fide the truth lies. Thus methinks you and I both find our account in this controverfy under your management ; you in fetting your reputation fafe from the blemiftiit would have been to it that you were brought over to my opinion; and I in feeing, if you' will forgive me fo pre- fumptuous a word, that you have left my caufe fafe in all thofe parts you have faid nothing to, and not very much dam3ge4 in that part .you have at- tacked, as 1 hope to fliew the indifferent reader. You enter upon yonrfpeci- men, p 2, by minding me that I tell you, " That I doubt not, but to let you " fee, that if you will be true to your own principles, and ftand to what you " have faid, you muft carry your ibme degrees of force to all thofe degrees " which in words you declare againft, even to the difcipline of fire and faggot." And you fay, if I make my word good ; you affare me you isoHl carry a faggot yourfelf to the burning what you have written for fo unmerciful and outragious a dijci^line : but till I have done that, you fuppoje the difcipline you have ■indeavaured A FOUHTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION - tmeavoursd to defend, may remizin -fafe and unhurt, as it is, in its own nature, •: harmlefs andfalutary to the world. To promife fairly is then the part of an honeft man, when the time of per- vformance is not yet come. But it falls out unluckily here, for you who have undertaken, by anfwering fome parts of my fecond Letter, to fhew the i^anpwerablenefs of the whole, that inftead of anfwering; you promife to retfaft, n I make good my word, in proving w^on your own principles you mujl carry your fome degrees of force to fire and faggot. Sir, my indeavours to make my word good, have lain before you a pretty competent time, the world is witnefs of it, and will, as I imagine, think it time for you, fince you yourfelf have brought this queftion upon the ftage, either to acknowledge that I have made my word good, or, by invalidating my arguments, fhew that I have not. He that after a debt of io many years, only promifes what brave things he will do hereafter, is hairdly thought upon the Exchange to do what he ought. The account in his hand requires to be -made up and balanced ; and that will (hew, not what he is to promife, but, if he be a fair man, what he is to perform. If the fehools make longer allowances of time^, and admit evalions for fatisfadtion, it is fit you ufe your privilege, and take more time to confid'er ; only I crave leave in the mean while to refer my reader to what I havefaid on this argument. Chap, iv, of my third Letter, that he may have a view of your way of anfwering by fpecimen, and judge whether all that I have there urged be anfwered by what you fay herCj or what you promife here 'be ever like to be performed. The next fample you give tojhew the anfwerablenefs of my Letter, is not much more' lucky than the former; it may be feen, p. 3, and 4, where you fay, 'That I tell you, p. 119, " That you have altered the queftion j" yir it feems, p. 26, you tell me the queftion between us is, " Whether the magiftrate " has any right to ufe force, to bring men to the true religion? Whereas, " p. 76, you yourfelf, I fay, own the queftion to be. Whether the magif. *' trate has a right to ufe force in matters of religion?" Which dffirma- ' tionof mine, you muft take leave to tell me, is a meer fiSlion, for neither p. 76, nor any where eJfe, do you own the queftion to be what I fay you do. Arid as to " ufing force in matters of religion," which you fay are my words not yours, if I mean by it the ufmg force to bring men to any other religion befides the true; you are fo far from owning the queftion to be. Whether the magi/irate has a right to ufe force for fuch a purpofe, that you have always thought Jt out of queftion, that no man in the world,' tfiagiftrate or other, can have any right to ufe, either force, or any other means that I can name,, to bring men to any falfe •religion, how muchfoever he may perfuade himf elf that it is true. . It is not therefore from any alteration, but from the true fate of the queftion, that " You take occafion, as I complain without caufe, to lay load on me, for ." charging you with the abfurdities of a power in the magiftrates to punifli " men, to bring them to their religion." But it feems, having little to fay ■againft what you do affert, you fay, I find it neceffary myfelf to alter the ■ queftion, and Jo make the world believe that you affert wh.it you do not, that I ■ -may havefo?nethittg before me which I can confute. D d d In A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION In this paragraph you pofitively deny, that it is any where owned by you as the queftion between us. Whether the magiflrate has a right oftifing force in matters of religion f Indeed thefe words are not as they are cited in p. 76, of your former Letter ; but he that will turn over the feaf, may, in p. 78, read thefe words of yours, wz. that Tou refer it to me, ivhether /, in faying no •body has a right ^ or you, in faying the magifirate has a right to ufe force in matters of religion, havemoft reafon : thouigh y©u pofitively tell me, That nei- ther p. 76, nor any where elfe, do you own the queftion to be what J fay you do.. And now let the reader judge between .us. I (hould not perhaps have fomuch as taken notice of this, but that you who are lb iparing of your anfwer, that you think a hu&i fpecimen upon ibme few pages (of the beginning of my Let- ter, fufficient to confute all I have faidin it, do ytet-^yend tiae better part of two pages on this ; which if I had been miftaJaen in, it had been of no great con- fequence ; of which I fee no other ufe you have, but to cafi: on me fome civil reflections of your fafliion, and fix on me the imputation oifBion, meerfBion; a compliment which I (hall not return you, though you fay, " using force *' IN MATTERS OF RELIGION," are my words, not yours. Whether they are your words or not, let p. 78, of your former Letter decide, where yoti own yourfelf to fay, that The magijlrate has a rigfht to ufe force in matters of religion. So that this, as I take it, is zj^ecimen of your being very pofitive in a miftake, and about a plain matter of faiSb, about an acSion of your own, and fo will fcarce prove ^fpecimen of the aiifwerableaiefs of all I fay in my Letter, unlefs we muft allow that truth and falfhood are equally anfwerable, when you declare again ft either of the;m. The next part of youv fpecimen we have, p. 4, 5, where you tell me that I undertake to prove, that " If upon your grounds the magiftrate be obliged to *' ufe; force to bring men to the true rdigion; it will necefia'rily follow, that *• every magiftrate, who believes his religion to be true, is obliged to ufe force "' to bring men to his." Now becaufe this undertaking isfo necefary for me; and my whole caufe feems to depend Mf on the fuccefs of it : you jball the more carefully confider how well I perform it. But before you do this, it will ■be fit to let ine know, in what fenfe you grant my inference, and in what fonfe you deny it. Now that every magiftrate, who upon juft and ftificient grounds believes his religion to be true, is obliged to uje fome moderate penalties, which is all the force you ever contended for, to bring men to his religion, you freely grant ; becaufe that muft needs be the true religion ; fince no other can, upon fuch grounds,, be believed to be true» But that any ma- giftrate, who upon weak and deceitful grounds, believes afalfe religion ta be true,. and he can never do it upon better grounds, is obliged to ufe the fame, or any ether, means, to bring men to his religion, this you flatly deny ; nor can it by any ruies of reafoning, be inferred from what you affert. Here you tell me you grant my inference in this fenfe, viz. 'That every' magiftrate, who upon juft and fufticient grounds believes his religion to be true, is: bmndto ufe force to bring men to it. Here you grant that every magiftrate, without knowing that his religion is true, is obliged, upon hia believing it to be truCj^ to ufe force, to bring mea A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION men to it j indeed you add, who believes it to be true upon jujh and fufficient grounds. So you have got a diftinaion, and that alw^ays fets ofF a difputant, though many times it is of no ufe to his argument. For here let me afk you, who muft be judge, whether the grounds upon which he believes his reli- gion to be true, be juft and fufficient? Muft the magiftrate himfelf judge for himfelf, or muft you judge for him ? A third competitor in this judgment I knovv not where you will find for your turn. If every magiftrate muft judge for himfelf, whether the grounds upon which he believes his religion to be true, ZTcJuJi and fufficient grounds, your limitation of the ufe of force to fuch only as believe uponjuji andfufficient grounds, bating that it is an ornament to your ftrle and learning, might have been fpared, fince it leaves my inference untouched in the full latitude I have expreffed it concerning every magiftrate i there not being any one magiftrate excluded thereby from an obligation to ufe force. to bring men to his own religion by this your diftinflion. For if every magiftrate, v^ho upon juft and fufficient grounds believes his religion to be true, be obliged to ufe force to bring men to his religion, and eveny ma- giftrate be himfelf jiidge, whether the grounds he believes n^on. be jufi and fufficient ; it is vifible every magiftrate is obliged to ufe force to bring men to his religion ; fince any one, who believes any religion to be true, cannot but judge the grounds, upon which he believes it to be true, are juft andfuffi- cient J for if he judged otherwife, he could not then believe it to be true. If you fay, you muft jlidge for the magiftrate, then what you grant is this. That every magiftrate who upon grounds that you judge to be juft and fuf- ficient, believes his religion to be true, is obliged to ufe force to bring men to his religion. If this be your meaning, as it feems not much remote from it, you will do well to fpeak it out, that the magiftrates of the vi'orld may know who to have recourfe to in the difficulty you put upon them, in de- claring them under an obligation to ufe force to bring men to the true reli- gion ; which they can neither certainly know, nor muft venture to ufe force to bring men to, upon their own perfuafion of the truth of it, when they have nothing but one of theie two, viz. knowledge, or belief that the religioti they promote is true, to determine them. NeceffitJ? has at laft, unlels you would have the magiftrate a(£t in the dark and ufe his force ■wholly at random, prevailed on you to grant, that the magiftrate may ufe force to bring men to that religion which he believes to be truej but fay you, h\5he\ie.i mu^ he. upon juji and fuficient grounds. The fame neceffity remaining ftill, muft prevail with you to go one ftep further, and tell me whether the magiftrate himfelf muft be judge, whether the grounds upon which he believes his religion to be true, be juft and fufficient, or whether you are to be judge for him. If you fay, the firft, my inference ftands good, and this queftion, I think, is yielded, and at an end. If you fay you are to be judge for the magiftrates, I fliall congratulate to the magif- trates of the world the way you have found out for them to acquit them- feives of their duty, if you will but pleafe to pubhfli it, that they may know where to find you; for in truth. Sir, I prefer you, in this cafe, to the D d d 2 Pope i A F O U R T H L E T T E R- F OR TO L E RATIO N:< Pope; though you know that olH gentleman at Romehiis long fince laidi claim to all decilions of this kind, and alledges infallibility for the fupport -qf his title ; which indeed will fcarce be able to Hand at Rome, or any where elfe, without the help of infallibility. But of this perhaps more in the next paragraph. You go on with your fpedmen in your next paragraph,, p, 5, which I fhall crave leave of my reader to fet down at large, it being a moft exaft and ftudied piece of artificial fencing, 'wherein, under the cover of good words, and the appearance of nice thinking, nothing is faid ; and therefore may deferve to be kept not as zfpecimen of your anfwering, for, as we fhall fee, you anfwer nothing, but as zfpecimen of your fkill in feeming to fay fomething where you have nothing to anfwer. You tell me that I fay, p. 120, that " I fup- ♦' pofe that you will grant me fwhat he mufi.be a hard man indeed that will *' not grant J 'that any thing laid upon the magiftrate as a duty^ is fome way ^' or other prafticable. Now the magiftrate being obliged to uife force in " matters of religion, but yet fo as to bring men only to the true religion, *' he will not be in any capacity to perform this part of his duty, unlels the f religion he is to promote, be what he can certainly know, or elfe what it " is fufficienf for him to believe to be the true : either his knowledge or his ^' opinion muft point out that religion to him, which he is by force to pro- f mote." Where, if by knowing, or knowledge, I mean the effedl of firiSl de- ptonfiration ; and by believing or opinion, any fort of afj'ent orperfuaftm how fiightly foever grounded,: then you mufi deny the fufficiency of my divifMn; ber- caufe there if. a third fort or degree ofperfuafion which though not groimde^d upon firiB demonfiration ; yet infirmnefs andfimbility, does far exceed that njoMch k built upon /light appearances of probability ; being grounded upon fuch clear and folid proof , as leaves no reafmable doubt in an attentive and unbiaffed mind: fo that it approaches very near to that which is produced by demonfiration^ and is therefore as it refpedls religion, very frequently and familiarly called in Scriptural not faith or belief only, but knowledge, and in divers places full afiurance ; as might eafily be Jhewn, if that were needful. Now this kind of perfuq^n, this knowledge, this full afjurancemen may., and ought to have of the true religion : but they can never have it of afalfe one. And this it is, that mufi point out that religion to the magifirate, which he is to^^ promote by the methdd you con- tend for. Here the firft thing you do is to pretend an uncertainty of what I mean by knowing or knowledge, and by believing or opinion. Firft,. As to knovvledge, I have faid certainly know. I have called it vifion, knowledge. an4icertainty, knowledge properly fo called. And for believing or opinion, I fpeak of i^/?^ ing with afjurance, and fay, that believing in the higheft degree of aflUrance, is not knowledge. That whatever is not capable of demonftration, is not^ unlefs it he'felf-evident, capable to produce knowledge, how well grpundeii and great foever the aflurance of faith may be wherewith it is received. That 1 grant, that a ftrong aflurance of any truth, fettled upon prevalent ;^nd well-grouqded arguments of probability, is often, called knowledge in popular A F O'U R T H L E T T E R FOR TO L E R A T I O N^ 389 popular way* of talking j but being here to diftingulfli between knowledge and belief, ' to what degrees of confidence foever raifed, their boundaries muft be kept, and their names not confounded, with more to the fame purpofe, p. 1 20, 121, whereby it is fo plain, that by knowledge I mean the effed: of ftridt demonftration ; and by believing or opinion,"! mean any degree of per- fuafion even to the higheft degree of affurance ; that I challenge you your- felf to fet it down in plainer and more exprefs terms. But no body can blame you for not finding your adverfary's meaning, let it be never fo plain, when you can find, nothing to anfwer to it. The reafon therefore which you al- ledge for the denying the fufficiency Of my divifion, is no reafon at all>. Vour pretended reafon is becaufe there is a third for.t or degree of perfuqfion ;. which, though not grounded upon ftriSl demonjiration; yet infirrnnefs and flabi- iity does far exceed that which is built upon fight appearances of probability^ etc. Let it be fo, that there is a degrete of perfuafiorr not grounded upon ftri£t demonftration, far exceeding that which is built ' upon flight appear- ances of probability. But let me afli you what reafon can this be to deny the fufficiency of my divifion, becaufe there is, as you fay, a third fort of degree of perfuafion, when even that which you call this third fort or de- gree of perfuafion is contained in my divifion. This is ^ fpecimen indeed, not of anfwering what P have faid, but of not anfwering ; and for fuch I leave it to the reader. A degree of perfuafion, though not grounded on flriSt demonftration^ yet infirrnnefs and fiability far exceeding that which is built uport jlight appearances of probability, you call here a third fort or degree of perfua- fion. 'Pray tell me which are the two other forts ; for knowledge upon ftridt demonftration, is not belief or perfuafion, but wholly above it. Befides, if the degrees oi firmnefs in perfuafion make i^S^^r^nt forts of perfuafion, there are not only three, but three hundred ^r/j of perfuafion ; and therefore the naming of your third fort was with little ground, and to no purpofe or ten- dency to an anfwer ; though the drawing in fomething like a diftindtion be always to the purpofe of a man who hath nothing to anfwer, it- giving occa- fion for the ufe of many good words ; which, though nothing to the point,, ferve to cover the difputants faying nothing under the appearance of learn- ing, to thofe who will not be at the pains to examine what he fays. Ydu fay, Every' magiftrate is by the law of nature under an obligation to ufe- force to bring men to the true religion. To this I urge, that the magiftrate hath nothing elfe to determine him in the ufe of force, for promotion of any re- ligion one before another, but only his own belief or perfuafion of the truth. 4)f it.' Here you had nothing to do, but fairly to grant or deny ; but iaftead thereof you firft raife a groundlefs doubt as I have fhewn about my meaning> whereof there could be no doubt at all to anyone who- would but read what I had faid ; and thereupon having got a pretence for a diftindtion, you fo- lemnly teil the world there is a third fort of perfuafion, which,though not grounded en ftriSi demonfirdtion ; yet infirmnef and ft ability, does far exceed %hat which is built uponfiighf appearances of probabiUty, leaving no doubts approaching ■tear to knowledge, being full afikrance..' WeU, the magiftrate Bath 2,perfua- '*' fioiv, A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION Jian of firmnefs andfiability^ has full affurance; muft he be determined by this his y^// affurance in the promoting of that religion by force, ofwhofe truth he is in fo high a degree of perfuafion fo fully affured ? No, fay you, // muji be grounded uponfuch cki^ and folid proof as leaiies no reafonable doi^t in an attentive and unbiajfed mind^ To which the magiftrate is ready to reply, that he> upon his grounds, can fee no reafonable doubt, and that his is an attentive and unbiaffed mind, of all which he himfelf is to be judges till you can produce your authority to judge for him ; though, in the conelufion, you adlually make yourfelf judge fof him. It hfucha kindof perfuafton,fiich a full aJJ'urance nrnfi point out to themagifirate that religion he is to promote h force, 'which can never be had but of the true religion : which is in effedt, as every one may fee, the religion that you judge to be true^ and not the religion the magiftrate judges to be true. For pray tell me, muft the magiftrate's full affurance point out to him the religion vsJhich he is by force to promote^ or muft he by force promote a religion, of whofe truth he hath no belief, no aflurance at all ? If you fay the firft of thefe, you grant that every magiftrate muft ufe force to promote his own religion, for that is the religion whereof he has fo full a^fTurance, that he ventures his eternal ftate upon it. Ay, fay you, that is for v/Z-Wtoi attention, andbecaufe he is not unbiaffed. It is like he will fay the fame of you, and then you are quits. And that he fhould by force promote that religion which he believes not to be true, is fo abfurd, that I think you can neither expe£t it, nor bring yourfelf to fay it. Neither of thefe therefore being anfwers that you can make ufe of, that which lies at the bottom, though you give it but covertly, is this, That the magiftrate ought by force to promote the religion that you beli«ve with full affurance to be true. This would do admirably well for your purpofe, were not the ma- giftrate. in titled to afk, who made you a judge for him in the cafe ? And ready to retort your own words upon you, that it is want of attention and unbiajfednefs in you, that puts your religion paft doubt with you upon' your proofs of it. Try when you pleafe with a Bramin, a. Mohammedan, a Pa~ ■pift, Lutheran, ^aker, Anabaptijl, Prefiyterian, etc- you will find if you argue with them, as you do here with me, that the matter will reft, here between you, and that you are no> more a judge for any of them than they are for you. Men in all religions have equally ftrong perfuafions, and every one muft' judge for himfelf ; nor can any one judge for another, andyoulaii of all for the magiftrate, that the ground you build upon, ^iX firmnefs and fiability of perfuafion in the higheft degree of affurance leaves no doubt ^can -never be had of afalfe religion being falfe, all your talk of full affurance, pointing out to the- magiftrate the true religion that he is obliged by force to promote, amounts to no more but his own religion, and can point out no other to him. However, in the next paragraph you go on with your fpecimen, znd tell me. Hence appears the- impertinency of all I difcourfe,'^. 1 20, ii\, concerfiing the difference between faith and knowledge : where the thing I was concern d to make out, if 1 would f peak to the^purpofe, was no other but this. That " there *' are A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION *' are as clear and folid grounds for the belief of falfe religions, as there are " for the belief of the true : or, that rnen may both as firmly and as ra- " tionally believe and imbrace falfe religions as- they can the true." ^his^ yoU confefs, is a point, which, yo\xi^^, when I have well ckared and eftablijhed it, willdomybufinefs, but nothing elfe will. And therefore my tatk of faith and kmnokdgey however it may .amufe fuch as ar^ prone to admire all thcft T fay, will never inable me, before better judges, from fhe duty of every magif- trate to wfe moderate penalties for promoting t%e true religion, to infer the fame obliga:tion to lie -upon every magifirat-e in r^peSi to his religion, whatever it be. Where the impertinency lies will be feen when it is remembered, that the queftion between us is not what religion has themoft clear and folid grounds for the belief of it, much lefs whether there ar^ as clear and folid grounds for the belief of falfe religions, as there are for the bdief of the true, i. e. whether falfhood has as much truth in it as truth itfdf ? A queftion, which, I guefs, no man, but one of your great pertinency could ever have propofed. But the queftion here between you and me, is What muft point out tothe magif- trate that religion which he is by force to promote, that fo he may be able to perform the duty that you pretend is incumbent on him by the law of nature % and here I proved, that having no certain demonftrative knowledge of the, true religion, all that was left him to determine him in the applica- tion of ifjixct, which you make the propei* inftrument of promoting the true religion, for the promoting the true religion, was only his perfuafion, belief, or affurance of the true religion, which was always his own ; and fo in this: ftate, the religion, which by force the magiftrates of the world- muft of ne- ceflity promote, muft be either their own, or none at all. Thus the argu- ment ftanding between us, I am apt to think the world may be of opinion, that it had been pertinent to your caufe to have anfwered my argument, if you had any thing to anfwer j which fince you have not done, \}!\\% fpecimen alfo of the facility, wherewith you can anfwer all I have faid in the thirfi Letter, may be joined to the former, and be a fpecimen of fomething elfe than what you intended it. For in truth. Sir, the indeavouring to fet up a new queftion abfurd in itfelf, and nothing at all to the purpofe, without of- fering any thing to clear the difficulty you were preffed with, will to under- ftanding readers appear pertinent in one who fets himfelf up for an arrant Drawcanfir, and is giving fpecimens of himfelf, that nothing can ftand in his way. It is with the fame pertinency, that to this propofition, 'That there are as clear and folid grounds for the belief of a falfe religion as there are for the belief of the true, you join this following as an equivalent. Or that men may both as firmly and as rationally believe and imbrace falfe religions as they can the true; and you would fain have it thought that your caule is gained, unlefs I will maintain thefe two abfurd propofitions, which my argument has no- thing to do with. And you feem to me to build upon thefe two falfe propofitions. L A FOURTH .LETTER FOR T0LERATI9N^ , I. That in the want qf knowledge and certainty of wjijch. is the triie,rer ligion, nothing is £t to fet the magiftrate upon, doing his; duty in injploying offeree to make men confider and imbrace the true rehgion, but thehigheft perfuafion and full affiirance of its truth. Whereas his own perfu^iio^ of the truth of his own religion, in what degree fqeyer it be, fo he believes it to be true, will, if he thinks it his duty by^ force to promote the 'true, be fufficient to fet him on work. Nor can it be otherwifcr iince his own per-- fuafion of his own religion, which he judges fo well grounded as to venture his future ftate upon it, cannot but be fufficient to fet him upon doipg what he takes to be his duty in bringing others to the fame religion. , II. Another falfe fuppofition you build upon is this, that the true religion is always imbraced with thd firmeft; afTent.. There is fcarce any one fo little acquainted with the world, that hath not met with inftances of men moft ua- rnoveably confident, and fully afTured in a religion which was not the true. Nor is there among the many abfurd religions of the world, almoft any one . thaft does not find votaries to lay down their lives for it : and if that be not firm perfuafion znAfull ajfurance that is ftronger than the love of life, and h^s force enough to make a man throw himfelf into the arms of death, it is hard to know what infirm perfuafion and^a// affurance. Jews and Moham- medans have frequently given inftances of this, higbeft degree of perfuafion. And the Bramins religion in the Eaft is entertained by its follow;^ with nq lefs aflurance of its truth, fince it is not unufual for fome of them to throyv themfelves under the wheels of a mighty chariot, wherein they on folemn days draw the image of their God about in procefljon, there to be cruihed to death, and facrifice their lives in honour of the God they believe in. If it be objeded, that thofe are exartiples of mean and cbmmon men ; but the -great men of the world, and the heads of focieties, do not fo eafily give themfelves up to a confirmed bigotry. I anfwer. The perfuafion they have of the truth of their own religion, is vifibly ftrong enough to make them venture themfelves, and ufe force to others upon the belief of it. Princes are made like other men, believe upon the like grounds that other men do, and ad: as warmly upon that belief, though the grounds of their peffuafion .be in thernfelves not very clear, or may appear to others to be not of the ut- -moft folidity. Men ad by the ftrength of their perfuafion, though they do ,not always place their perfuafion and afi!ent on that fide on which, in reality the ftrength of truth lies. Reafons that are not thought of, nor heard of, nor rightly apprehended, nor duely weighed, make no imprefiaon on the mind : and truth, how richly foever ftored with them, may not be afl!ented to, but lie negledted. The only difference between princes and other men herein, is this, that princes are usually more positive in matters OF RELIGION, BUT LESS INSTRUCTED. The foftnefs and plcafures of a court, to which they are ufually abandoned when young, and affairs of ftate which wholly pofTefs them when grown up, feldom allow any of them time to confider and examine that they may imbrace the true religion. And here your fcheme, upon your own fuppofition, has a fundamental error that over- turns A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION turns It. For you affirming that force, your way applied, is the necejfary and competent means to bring men to the true rdigibn, you leave magiftrates deftitute of thefe neceffary and competent means of being brodght to the true reli- gion, though that be the readieft way, in your fcheme the only way, to bring other men to it, and is contended foi- by you as the only method. 1 * further, you will perhaps be ready to replyj that you do not fay barely, that men may not as firmly, but that they cannot as firmly and as rationally believe and imbrace falfe religions as they can the true. This, be It as true as it will, is of no manner of advantage to your caufe. For here the queftion, neceflary to.be confidered in your way of arguing, returns upon you, who muft be judge whether the magiftrate believes and imbraces his religion rationally or no ? If he himfelf be judge, then he does aft ra- tionally, and it muft have the fame operation on him, as if it were the moft rational in the world : if you muft be judge for him, whether his belief be rational or no, why may not others judge for him as well as you ? or at leaft he judge for you, as well as you for him ; at leaft till you have pro- duced your patent t)f infallibility and commiflion of fuperin tendency over .the belief of the magiftrates of the earth, and (hewn the commiflion where- by you are appointed the director of the magiftrates of the world in their be- lief, which is or is not the true religion ? Do not think this faid without caufe, your whole difcourfe here has no other tendency, but the making yourfelf judge of what religion fhould be promoted by the magiftrate's force; which, let me tell you by the way, every warm zealot in any religion, has as much a right to be as you. I befeech you tell me, are you not perfuadedy nay, fully ajjuredy that the church of England is in the right, and all that diflent from her are in the wrong ? Why elfe would you have force ufed to make them confider and conform ? If then the religion of the church of England he, as you are fully ajfnredy the only true religion, and the magif- trate muft ground his perfuafion of the truth of his religion on fuch clear and folid proofs as the true religion alone has, and no falfe one can have, and by that perfuafion the magiftrate muft be diredled in the ufe of force, (for all this in efFeft, you fay, in the fixth and beginning of the feventh pages) what is this but covertly to fay, that it is the duty of all magiftrates to ufe force to bring men to imbrace the religion of the church of England? Which, fince it plainly follows from your dodtrine, and I think you cannot deny to be your opinion, and what in effed: you contend for, you will do well to fpeak it out in plain words, and then there will need no more to be faid in the queftion. And now I defire it may be confidered, what advantage this fuppofition of force, which is fuppofed put into the magiftrate's hands by the law of na- ture to be ufed in religion, brings to the true religion, when it arms five hundred magiftrates againft the true religion, who muft unavoidably in the Hate of things in the world adt againft it, for one that ufes force for it. I fay, that this ufe of force in the magiftrate's hand, is barely fuppofed'by you from the benefit it is like to produce; but it being demonftration, that the E e e prejudice A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION prejudice that \vill accrue to the true religion from fuch a ufe of ibrcei is five hundred times more than the advantage: can be expedted ffpm it, the natural and unavoidable inference frohi your own ground of benefit, is, that God never gave any fuch power to the magilfcratei and thefeit will reft till you caUj by fome better argument prove the magiftrate to have fuch a power : to which give me leave to add one word more. You fay the magiftrate is obliged by the law of nature to tife.forCe to promote the true reliaion ; muft hd ftand ftiU and do nothing till he cer- tainly know which is the true religion ? If fb, the. commiffion is loft, and he can never do his duty ; for to certain fcnbJfivledgE of the true religion, he can in this world never arrive. May he then adt Upon jiYm ferfmjion tindfull ajfurance, grounded upon fuch clear and fdid frmfs ■ as the ttue rtU^im alone has, and no fatfe one can hdvef And then "indeed you have diftinguiflied yourfelf into a fafe retreat. For who can doubt but your third Jbrtsr degree of perfuafian, if that be your meaning, will determine the magiftrate to the true religion, when it is grounded on thofe which are the proof& only of the true religion, which if it be all that you intfend by jQS\xxfiiti af- furanee, which is the title you give to this your third fort or degree nf pe*%- fuqfion, I muft defire you to apply this in anfwer to my argument. 1 fay, magiftrates in general have nodiing to determine thiem in their. applicatibft of force but their own perfuafion j and your anfwer is, the magiftrates of' the true religion have their own perfuafion to determine them j but of all the other magiftrates, which are above an hundred, I might fay a thoufand to one, you fay nothing at all ; and thus, by the help of a diftin<3:ion, the queftion is refolved. I fay the magiftrates are not in a Capacity to perform their duty, if they be obliged to ufe fotce to promote the true religion, fince they have nothing to determine thfem but their own perfuafion of the truth of any religion ; which, in the variety of religions which the magif- trates of the world have imbraeed, cannot dired: them to the true. Yes, iay you, their perfuafion, who have imbraeed the true religion, wilidire clear and' foHd proofs, which the true religion alone has. In anfwer to this, I alk. Who mull be judge whether his perfuafion be grounded on clear and folid proofs, the maglftrate himfelf, or you for him ? If the magiftratehim- ^^y^ *^f " ^^ ^^^ ^"^ where we were ; and all that you fay here, with the diftmClion that you have made about feveral forts of perfuafion, ferves only to lead us round about to the fame place : for the magiftrate, of what reli- gion foerer, muft, notwithftahding all you have faid, be determined by his own perfuafion. If you fay you muft be judge of the clearnefs and folidity of the proofs upon which the magiftrate grounds the belief of his own reli- gion, it is time you fhould produce your patent, and fhew the commiflion whereby you adt. There are other qualifications you affign of the proof, on which you tell \x^ your third fort or degree of perfuafion is grounded; and that is fuch, as leaves no recifbnable doubt iri an attentive and unbiajfed mind: which unlefs you muft be judge what is a reafonable doubt, and 'which is an attentive and unbiajfed mind, will do you no manner of fervice. If the magiftrate muft be judge for himfelf in this cafe, you can have nothing to fay to himj but if you muft be judge, then any doubt about your religion will be unreafonable, and his not imbracing and pronioting your religion will be want of attention and an unbiaffed mindi But let me tell you, give but the- fame liberty of judging for the magiftrate of your relig;ion to the men of another religion, which they have as much right to as you have to judge for the magiftrate of any other religion in the points mentioned, all this will return upon ygu^ Go into France and try whether it be not fo. So that your plea for the ma- giftrate's ufing force for promoting the true religion, as yoa have ftated it, gives as much power and authority to the king qi France to ufe it againft his diffenting fubjedts, as to any other prince in Chrijiendom tO" ufe it againft theirs j name which you pleafe. The fallacy in making it the magiftrate's duty to promote by force the only true religion, lies in ,this. That you allow yourfelf to fuppofe the ma- giftrate, who is of your religion, to be well-grounded, attentive and un- biafled, and fully and firmly affured that his religion is true ; but that other magiftrates of other religions different from yours are not (o : which, what is it but to eredt yourfelf into a ftate of infallibility above all other men of different perfuafions from yours, which yet they have as good a title to as yourfelf? i Having thus advanced yourfelf into the chair, and given yourfelf the power of deciding for all men which is, and which is not the true religion^ it is not to be w^ondercd that you fo roundly pronounce all my difcourfe, p. 1 20, 121, concerning the diferenee between faith and knowledge to be tni- pertinencjr ; and fo magifteriaily to tell me, 'That , the thing I was there con- cerned to make out, if 1 would fpeak to the purpofe, was no other but' this ^ that E e e £ there A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION there are as clear and as folid groimds^ far the belief offulfe^ religions, as there are for belief of the true : or, that men may both as firmly and as rationally be- Keve and imbrace falfe religions as they can the true. The impertinency in thefe two or three pages, I fhall leave to ftiift for it- felf in the judgment of any indifferent reader; and will only, > at prelent, examine what you tell / was concerned to make out, if I would J^eak to the furpofe. . My bufinefs there was to prove. That the magiftrate being taught that it was his duty to ufe force to promote the true religion, it would thence unavoid- ably follow, that not having knowledge of the truth of any religion, but only belief that it was true, to determine him in his application of force, he would take himfelf in duty bound to promote his own religion by ft^rce; and thereupon force would inevitably be ufedto promote falfe religioiis, upon thofe very grounds upon which you pretend to make it ferviceable only to the true: and this, I fuppofe, I have in thofe pages evidently. proved, though you think not fit to give any other anfwer to what I there fay, but .that it is impertinent j and I fhould have proved fomething elfe, which you would have done well, by a plain and clear dedudtion, to have fhewn from my words. [the two following leaves of the copy ARE either lost OR MISLAID.] , After this new invention of yours, of anfwering by fpeeimen,, fo happily found out for the eafe of yourfelf and other dilpiitants of renown, that fhall pleafe to follow it, I cannot prefume you fliould take notice of any thing I have to fay : you have affumed the privilege, by {hewing your ftrength againft one argument, to pronounce all the reft baffled ; and there- fore to what purpofe is it to offer difficulties to you, who can blow them all off with a breath ? But yet to apologize for myfelf to the tvorld, for be- ing of opinion that it is not always from want of canfideratiori, attention, or being unbiafed, that men vf'ith. firmnefs of perfuafion imbrace, and with y«// ajfurence adhere te the wrong fide in matters of religion, I fliall take the liberty to offer the famous inftahce of the. two Reynolds, brothers, both men of learning and parts j whereof the one being of the church of Rng- land, and the other of the church of Rome, they both defiring each other's eonverfion to the religion which he himfelf was of, that they writ, to one another about it ; and that with fuch appearance of folid and clear grounds on both fides, that they were wrought upon by them : each changed his reli- gion, and that with io firm a perfuafion and full an ajj'uranceoi the truth of that which he turned to, that no indeavours or arguments of either of them ppuld ever after move the other, or bring him back from what he had per*- fuaded him to. If now I fhould afk to which of xhe!k tvfo full a£m-ande pointed out the true religion, you no doubt, if you would anfwer at all, would fay, To him that imbraeed that of the church of England, and a Papift wpDild fay the other : but if an indifferent man were alked whether this, A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION this full, affurance was fufBcient to point out the true- religion to either of them, he muft anfwer. No -, for if it were, they muft neceflarily have been both of the fame religion. To fum up then what you anfwer to my faying, " It cannot be the ma- " giftrate's duty to ufe force to promote the true religion, becaufe he is not " in a capacity to perform that duty; for.not having a certain knowledge, " but only his own perfuafion to point out to him which is the true reli- " gion, if he be fatisfied it is his duty to ufe force to promote the true reli- " gion, k will inevitably follow, that he muft always ufe it to promote his " ovvn.'V To which you anfwer, That a: perfuafion of a low degree is not fufficient to point out that religion to the magiftrate which he is to promote by force ; but that ^.firmnefs and Ji ability af perfuafion, a full affurance is that which is to point out to the magijirate that religion which he is hy force to pro- mote. yV\xtvc a by firmriefs and Jiability: of perfuafion and full ajkrance, you. mean what the words import, it is plain you confefs the magiftrate's duty is to promote his own religion by force j for that is the religion which his^ firm perfuafion znd full affurance points out to him. If by full affurance you mean any thing but the ftrength of perfuafion, you contradidt all that you have faid dhontfrmnefs zndfabilityt and degrees of perfuafion ; and having in that fenfe allowed the fufEciency of my divifion, where I fay, " knowledge " or opinion muft point out that religion to him, which he is by force to " promote;" retraft it again, and inftead thereof, under the name of full' affurance, you fubftitute and put in true religion, and fo firmnefs of perfua- fion is in efFetft laid by, and nothing but the name made ufe of: for pray tell me, is firmnefs of perfuafion, or being of the true religion, either of them by itfelf, fufficient to point out to the magiftrate that religion which it is his duty to promote by force ? For they do not always go together. If beingof the true religion by itfelf may do it, your mentioning firmnefs of perfuafion, grounded on folid proof that leaves no doubt, is to no purpofe^, :but to miflead your reafon; for every one that is of the true religion, does npt arrive at that high degree of perfuafion, that full affurance, which ap- proaches that which is very near to that vvhich is produced by demonftra- tion. And in this fenfe oi full affurance, which you fay men may have of the true religion, and can never haveofafalfe one, your anfwer amounts to this, T\i'iX full affurance, in him that imbraces the true religion,, will point out the religion he is by force to promote : where it is plain, that by fulnefs, of affurance you do. mean not the firmnefs of his perfuafion that points; out to him the religion which he is by force to promote, (for any lower de- gree of petfuafion to him that imbraces the true religion would do it as cer- tainly, and to one that imbraces not the true religion, the higheft degree of perfuafion would even in your opinion do nothing at all) but his being of the true religion, is that which alone guides him to his dnty of promoting the true religion by force. So that to my queftion, how £hall a magiftrate who is perfuaded that it is his and every magiftrate's duty to promote the true religioin by fbrce» be determined in his ufe of force, yoafeem to fay his firm \gd A FOUI?.TH* LETTER' FOR- TOLERATION Jirm perfuafion or full ajfurance of the truth of the religion he fo promotes muft determine him ; and prefently, in other words, you feem to lay the ftrefs upon his adually being of the true religion. The firll: of theie an- fwers is not true; foi* I have (hewn, that firmnefs of perfuafion may and does, point out to magiftrates falfe religions as well as the true : and the fecond is muchwhat the fame, as if to one, who fhould afk what IhouM inable a than to find the right way who knows it not, it (hould be anfwered, the being iii it. One of thefe muft be your meaning, choofe which you pleafe of them* if you have any meaning at all in your fixth, and beginning of the feventK page, to which I refer the reader; where, if hfe find nothing elfe, he can- not fail to find ^fpecimen of fchool-play, of talking uncertainly in the utmoft perfe£lion, nicely and artificially worded, that it may ferve for z.fpecimen of a mafter-piece in that kind; but z fpecimen of the anfwerablenefs of my Letter will require, as I imagine, a little more plain dealing. And to fa- tisfy readers, that have not attained to the admiration of fkilfiilly faying nothing ; you muft direftly inform them, whether firmnefs of perfuafion be or be not fufiicient in a magiftrate to inable him to do his duty in promoting, the true religion by force, or elfe this you have pitched on will fcarce be a fample of the anfwerablenefs of all I have faid. But you ftand pofitive in it, and that is like a mafter, that it cannot be in- ferred from the magiftrate's being obliged to promote by force the true ffeli- gion, that every magiftrate is obliged to promote by force his own religion. And that for the fame reafon you had given before, more perplexed' and ob- Icurely, mz. Becaufe there is this ferpetual advantage on thejide of the true re^ iigion, that it may and ought to be believed on clear mdfolid groundsifuch as will appear the morefo, the more they are examined: whereas no other religion can be Relieved fo, but uponfuch appearances only, as will not bear ajuft examination. This would be an anfwcr to what I have faid, if it were fo that all magif*- trates faw the preponderaricy of the grounds of belief, which are on the fide •of the true religion; but Iince it is not the grounds and reafons of a truth that are not feen, that do or can fet the magiftrate upon doing his duty in the cafe; but it is the perfuafion of the mind, produced by fucTj reafons and grounds as do affedt if, that aloiie does, or is capable, to determine the ma- giftrate in the ufe of force, for performing of his duty; it necefliarily fol- lows, that if two magiilrates have equally ftrong perfuafions concerning the truth of their religions refpe£tively, they muft both be fet on work thereby, or neither ; for thdugh one be of a falfe, and the other of the true religion, yet the principle of operation, that alone which they have to determine them, being equal in both, they muft both be deterniined by it ; unlefs it can be faid, that one of therh muft adl according to that principle, which alone can determine, and the other muft ad againft it ; that is, do what he cannot do 5 be determined to one thing, by what at the fame time detemiines' him to another. From which incapacity in magiftrates to perform their duty hy force to promote the true religion, I think it may juftly be concluded, that to ufe force for the promoting any religion, cannot be their duty. You A FOURTH LETTER FOR TOLERATION " You tell us, it is by the law of nature magiftrates are obliged to promote the true religion by force. It muft be owned, that if this be an obligation of the law of nature, very few magiftratis overlook it, fo forward are they to promote that religion by force which they take to be true. This being the cafe, I befeech you tell me what was Huaina Capac, emperor of Peru obliged to do ? Who, being perfuaded of his duty to j)romote the true reli- gion, was not yet within diftance of knowing or fo much as hearing of the Chriftian religion, which really is the true, (fo far was he from apoflibility to have his belief grounded upon the folid and clear proofs of the true reli- gion.) Was he to promote the true religion by force ? That he neither did nor could know any thing of, fo that that was morally impoffible for him to do. Was he to fit ftill in the neglea of his duty incumbent on him ? That is in effedl to fuppofe it a duty and no duty at the fame time. If upoa his not knowing which is the true religion, you allow it iiis duty to pro- mote it by force, the queftion is at an end : you and I are agreed, that it is not the magiftrate's duty by force to promote the true religion. If you hold it in that cafe to be his duty, what remains for him to do, but to ufe force to promote that religion which he himfelf is ftrongly, nay perhaps to the highell degree of firmnefs, perfuaded is the true ? Which is the granting what I contend for, that, if the magiftrate be obliged to promote by force the true rehgion, it will thence follow, that he is obliged to promote by force that religion which he is perfuaded. is the true ; fince, as you will have it, force was given him to that end, and it is his duty to ufe it, and he hath nothing elfe to determine it to that end but his own perfuafion, So' that one of thefe two things muft follow, either that in that cafe it ceafes to. be his. duty, or elfe he muft promote his own religion, choofe you which you pleafe ^ ****sft*********** I fe