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legi-
bus quam a parentibus : It is a greater inheritance,
and more to be valued, which we derive from the
fundamental conflitution and laws of our country,
than that which comes to us from our refpe£live pa-
rents. For without the former, we have no claim
to the latter.
jhirym. But has this method of trial never
been attempted to be invaded or juftled out of
pradlice ?
Barr. It is but rarely that any have arrived
to fo great a confidence : For it is a mofi dangerous
thing tofhake, or alter, any of the rules, or funda-
mental points, of the common law, which in truth
are the main pillars, and fupporters of the fabric of
the commonwealth : thefe are judge Cokeys words f.
Yet fometimes it has been endeavoured : but fo
facred and valuable was the inftitution in the eyes
of our anceftors, and fo tenacious were they of
their privileges, and zealous to- maintain, and pre-
ferve fuch a vital part of their birth-right and
freedom ; that no fuch attempts could ever prove
effedtual, but always ended with the fhame and fe-
vere punifhment of the raih undertakers. For
example,
I. Andrew Horn, an eminent lawyer, in his
book, entitled, the Mirrour of yuflices, (written in
the reign of king Edward I. now near 400 years
ago) in the fifth chapter, and firfl: fedtion, records,
That the renowned Saxon king Alfred caufedfour-
andforty juflices to be hanged in one year, as murther-
ers, for ihtirfalfe judgments. And there recites their
particular crimes, moft of them being in one kind or
other infringements, violations, & encroachments of
and
* 2 Infiit./o/. 56. t 2 Inftit./. 74.
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and upon the rights & privileges of Juries. Amongft
the reft, that worthy author tells us, he hanged one
jujlice Cadwine, becaufe he judged one Hackwy
to death without the confent of all the furors;
for whereas he flood upon his yury of ttiielve men,
becaufe three of them would have faved him, this
Cadwine removed thoje three, arid put others in
their room on the jFury, againfl the faid Hackwy's
confent. Where we may obferve, that though at
laft twelve men did give a verdidt againft him,
yet thofe, fo put upon him, were not accounted
his yurors ; by reafon all, or any of them, who
were firft fworn to try him, could not (by law) be
removed, and others put in their ftead : And that
fuch illegal alteration was then adjudged a capital
crime, and forthwith the faid Cadwine was hanged.
2. A fecond inftance I fliall give you in the
words of the lord chief juftice Coke % : ' Againft
' this ancient and fundamental law (and in the
' face thereof) there was in the eleventh year of
' king Henry VII. cap. 3. an aft of Parliament ob-
' tained (on fair pretences, & a fpecious preamble, as
' to avoid divers mifchiefs, ^fc.^) whereby it was
ordained, That from thenceforth, as well juflices of
qffize, as juflices of the peace, upon a bare informa-
tion for the king before them made, without any
finding or prefentment by the verdiB of twelve men,
fhould have full power and authority by their dif-
cretions, to hear and determine all offences and
contempts committed or done by any perfon or per-
fons againfl the form, ordinance, or effeH of any
flatute made and not repealed, &c. ' By colour of
' which adl (faith Coke) fhaking this fundamental
' law (he means, touching all trials to be by Juries)
'it is' not credible what HORRIBLE OP-
' PRESSIONS and EXACTIONS, to the undoing
Bz 'of
% Coke, zpartoi \aSi.fol. 51.
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' of MULTITUDES of people, were committed
' by Sir Richard Empfon knight, and Edmund
' Dudley, Efq; (being juftices of the peace)
' throughout England; and upon this unjuft and
' injurious adt (as commonly in like cafes it falleth
' out) a new office was erecSed, and they made
' mafters of the king's forfeitures.'
But not only this ftatute was juflly, foon after
the deceafe of Henry VII. repealed by the ftat.
of the I Hen. VIII. cap. 6. but alfo the faid Emp-
fon and Dudley (notwithflanding they had fuch
an all to back them, yet it being againfl Magna
Charta, and confequently void) were fairly executed-
for their pains ; and feveral of their under-agents,
as promoters, informers, and the like, feverely/«-
nijhed, for a warning to all others that fhall dare
(on any pretence whatfoever) infringe our Engli/h
liberties *. For fo the lord t Coke having (elfe-
where) with deteflation mentioned their ftory, pa-
thetically concludes ; Qui eorum vejligiis injijlant,
exitus perhorrefcant : Let all thofe who Jhall pre-
Jume to tread their Jieps, tremble at their dreadful
end. Other inftances of a later date might be gi-
ven, but I fuppofe thefe may fuffice.
jurym. Yes, furely; and by what you have
difcourfed of the long-continued ufe of Juries, and
the zealous regards our anceftors had not to part
with them, I perceive that they were efleemed a
fpecial privilege. Be pleafed, therefore, to ac-
quaint me, wherein the excellency & advantages to
the people, by that method of trial above others,
may confift.
JBarr. This queftion fliews you have not been
much converfant abroad, to obferve the miferable
condition of the poor people in moft other nations,
where
* See Sir Rich. Baker's Chron. p. 254.
t 4 Part Inftitut/o/. 41.
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where they are either wholly JubjeH to the defpotic
arbitrary luft of their rulers ; or at beil under fuch
laws as render their lives, liberties, and eftates, li-
able to be difpofed of at the difcretion of flrangers
appointed their judges ; mofl: times mercenary and
creatures of prerogative ; fometimes malicious and
oppreffive; and often /«;-/?«/ and corrupt*. Or
fuppofe them ever iojuji and upright, yet ftill has
the fubjeil no fecurity againft the attacks of un-
confcionable witnejjfes ; yea, where there is no fuf-
ficient evidence, upon bare fulpicions, they are ob-
noxious to the tortures of the rack, which often
make an innocent man confefs himfelf guilty, mere-
ly to get out of prefent pain. Is it not then an
inejiimable happirufs to be born, and live under
fuch a mild and righteous conflitution, wherein all
thefe mi/chiefs (as far as human prudence can pro-
vide) are prevented ? where none can be condemn-
ed, either by \!s\& power of fuperior enemies, or the
rajhnefs or ill-will of any Judge, nor by the bold
2i&.xma.iions oi s.ny profligate evidence : but no lefs
than twelve honejl, fubjlantial, impartial men, his
neighbours (who confequently cannot be prefumed
to be unacquainted either with the matters char-
ged, the prifoners courfe of life, or the credit of the
evidence) mufl iirft be fully fatisfied in their con-
fciences, that he is guilty ; and fo all unanimoufly
pronounce him upon their oaths ? Are not thefe,
think you, very material privileges \ i
* See all this excellently made out, and more at large,
by the L. C. J. Forte/cue, afterwards chancellor to K.
Hen. VI. in his Book De laudibus Legum Angla, cap.
26, 27, 28, 29.
t It may be of importance to add one obfervation here :
— Though a parliament to fupply the neceffities and pur-
pofes of an abandoned adminiftration, fhould opprefs us
with taxes; while the conflitution remains, in other re-
fpefts, unviolated, the continuance of Juries in their le-
gal force will fecure our reputations, our perfonal liberties,
our limbs, and our lives.
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Jurym. Yes, certainly ; though I never fo well
confidered them before. But now I plainly fee our
fore-fathers had, and we ftill have, all the reafon
in the world to be zealous for the maintenance and
prefervation thereof from fubverfion or encroach-
ments, and to tranfmit them entire to poflerity.
For, if once this bank be broken down or negledt-
ed, an ocean of oppreflion, and the ruins of infinite
numbers of people, (as in Empfon and Dudley'^
days) may eafily follow, when on any pretence they
may be made criminals, and then fined in vafl fums,
with pretext to enrich the king's coffers, but indeed
to feed thofe infatiate vultures that promote fuch
unreafonable profecutions. But fmce you have
taught me fo much of the antiquity and excellency
of juries, I cannot but crave the continuance of
your favour, to acquaint me fomewhat more par-
ticularly of their office and power by law.
Barr. I (hall gladly comply with fo reafonable
and jufl a requeft. * A jury of twelve men are by
our laws the only proper judges of the matter in if-
fue before them. As for inflance,
1. That teitimony which is delivered to in-
duce a jury to believe, or not to believe, the matter
of faa in iffue, is called in law EVIDENCE, be-
caufe thereby the jury may, out of many matters
of fadt, JSvidere veritatem ; that is, fee clearly the
truth, of which they are proper judges.
2. When any matter is fworn, or when a deed
is read, or offered, whether it fhall be believed, or not,
or whether it be true, or falfe, in point of fadl, the
jurors are proper judges.
3. Whether fuch an a(5t was done, in fuch, or
fuch a manner, or to fuch, or fuch, an intent, the
jurors are judges. For, the court is not judge of
thefe matters, which are evidence to prove, or
difprove,
* See Coke, 4th Part of Inftit./^/. 84.
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difprove, the thing in iffue. And therefore the
witnefles are always ordered to direH their fpeech
to the jury, they being the proper judges of their
teftimony. And in all pleas of the crown (or
matters criminal) the prifoner is faid to put him-
felf for trial upon his country, which is explained
and referred by the clerk of the court, to be meant
of the jury, faying to them, Which country you are.
yurym. Well then, what is the part of the
king's jujlices, or the court? what are they to
take cognizance of, or do, in the trials of mens
lives, liberties, and properties ?
Barr. Their office, in general, is to do equal
jujlice and right: particularly,
1. To fee that the jury be regularly returned
and duXy /worn.
2. To fee that the prifoner (in cafes where it is
permitable) be allowed his lawful challenges.
3. To advife by law, whether fuch matter may
be given in evidence, or not, fuch a writing read,
or not, or fuch a man admitted to be a witnefs, dr'C.
4. Becaufe by their learning, and experience,
they are prefumed, to be beft qualified, to alk per-
tinent queftions, and, in the mofl perfpicuous man-
ner, fooneft to fift out truth from amongft tedious
impertinent circumflances and tautologies : they
therefore commonly examine the witneffes in the
court, yet not excluding the jury, who of right
may, and where they fee caufe, ought to afk them
any necelfary queflions ; which undoubtedly they
may lawfully do with modefly and difcretion, with-
out begging any leave. For if afking leave be ne-
cefTary, it implies in the court a right when they
lift to deny it ; and how then fhall the jury know
the truth ? And fince we fee, that council, who
too often ( Pudet hcec opprobria nobis) for their
fees flrive only to baffle witneffes, and ftifle truth,
take
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take upon them daily to interrogate the evidence ;
it is abfurd to think that the Jurors fliould not
have ^& fame privilege, who are upon their oaths,
and proper judges of the matter.
5. As a difcreet and lawful AJfiJlant to the
Jury,* they do often recapitulate and fum up the
heads of the evidence ; but the Jurors are ftill to
confider whether it be done truly, fully and impar-
tially, (for one man's memory may fooner fail than
twelve's.') He may likewife flate the law to them,
that is, deliver his opinion where the cafe is difficult,
or they defcre it. But fmce, ex fallo jus oritur, all
matter of law arifes out of matter of fadl, fo that
till the faft is fettled there is no Kiom for law :
therefore all fuch difcourfes of a judge to a Jury
are, or ought to be, hypothetical, not coercive;
conditional, and not pofitive : viz. If you find the
fall thus or thus, ftill leaving the Jury at liberty to
find as they fee caufe) then you are to find for the
plaintiff. But if you find the fall thus, or thus,
then you are to find for the defendant, or the like,
(ruilty, or not Guilty, in cafes criminal.
Laftly, they are to take the verdill of the Jury,
and thereupon to ^we. judgment according to law.
For the office of a judge (as Coke well obferves) is
jus dicere, not jus dare; not to make any laws by
ftrains of wit, or forced interpretations ; but plain-
ly, and impartially to declare the law already efta-
lilhed. Nor can they refufe to accept the Jury's
verdift when agreed : for if they fhould, and force
the Jury to return, and any of them Ihould mif-
carry for want of accommodation, it would un-
doubtedly be murther ; and in fuch cafe the Jury
may, without crime, force their liberty, becaufe
they are illegally confined, having given in their
verdidt, and thereby honeftly difcharged their of-
fice,
* Vaughan's, Reports in Bujhell's za,ie,fol. 144.
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fice, and are not to be ftarved for any man's
pleafure.
jfurym. But I have been told, that a Jury is
only judge of naked matter of fa£l, and are not at
all to take upon them to meddle with, or regard,
matter of law, but leave it wholly to the court.
Barr. 'Tis mofl true, jfurors are judges of mat-
ters of fall: that is their proper province, their
chief bufmefs ; but yet not excluding the confidera-
tion of matter of law, as it arifes out of, or is com-
plicated with, and influences thefa6l. For to fay,
they are not at all to meddle with, or have refpect to,
law in giving their verdidts, is not only a falfe po-
fition, and contradidted by every day's experience ;
but alfo a very dangerous and pernicious one ;
tending to defeat the principal end of the infl;itu-
tion of Juries, and fo fubtilly to undermine that
which was too flrong to be baftered down.
I. It is falfe: For, though the direction, as to
matter of law feparately, may belong to the judge,
and the finding the matter of fadl does, peculiarly,
belong to the Jury ; yet mufl your jFury alfo ap-
ply matter of f adt and law together ; and from
their confideration of, and a right judgment upon
both, bring forth their verdiil : For do we not
fee in mofl general iffues, as upon not guilty —
pleaded in trefpafs, breach of the peace, ox felony,
though it be matter in law whether the party be
a tre/paffer, a breaker of the peace, or a felon ;
yet the Jury do not find the fail of the cafe by it-
felf, leaving the law to the court ; but find the
party guilty, or not guilty, generally ? So as, though
they anfwer not to the queftion fingly, what is
law 1 yet they determine the law, in all matters,
where iflue is joined. So likewife is it not every
day's pradtice, that when perfons are indidted
for murther, the Jury not only find them guilty,
or not guilty ; but many times, upon hearing, and
weighing
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weighing of circumftances, bring them in either
guilty of murther, manjlaughter, per infortunium,
OT/e defendendo, as they fee caufe ? Now do they
not, herein, complicately refolve, both law & f a6t ?
And to what end is it, that when any perfon is
profecuted upon sxiy Jlatute, the fbatute itfelf is
ufually read to the Jurors, but only that they may
Judge, whether, or no, the matter be within that
ftatute ? But to put the bufmefs out of doubt, we
have the/uffrage of that oracle of law, Littleton,
who in his Tenures, Sedt. 368. declares. That if a
yury will take upon them the knowledge of the law
upon the matter, they may. Which is agreed to
likewife by Coke in his comment thereupon *. And
therefore it is falfe to fay that the Jury hath not
power, or doth not ufe frequently to apply the
fadt to the law ; and thence taking their meafures,
judge of, and determine, the crime, or ij/ue, by
their verdidtj. 2. As
* An able writer of our own times, before the prefent
difputes arofe, confiders this, as a fettled and allowed
rule. See Blackftone's Commentaries, vol. III. p. 377,
378. particularly vol. IV. p. 354, 355. 4th ed.
X Not only the exprefs qffirtion of lawyers — and the
prailice of the courts, prove, that Juries are authorized to
determine the law, fo far as it relates to the fa(5V; but,
in the third place, the words, in which verdifts muft be
given, indicate, that they have this power. If Juries had
been appointed to judge of fafts only, the words 'done,'
or ' not done,' or words of a like import, would have been
fubftituted for the words ' guilty,' or ' not guilty.'
However, as our anceftors have placed it in their option
to determine the law, fo far as it is coimefted with
the faft, the language of their verdicSs comprehends,
when necejffary, their fentiments upon both. If an ac-
tion is faid to be criminal, it is neceffary to determine
whether the aflion happened .• — So that when a Jury de-
clares that a man is guilty, the fa^ is implied ; becaufe
they cannot affix guilt, where there is no faft. When
a Jury declares a man not guilty, the determination of the
faft
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2. As yuries have ever been vefted with fuck
power by law, fo, to exclude them from, or diffeife
them of the fame, were utterly to defeat the end of
their inftitution f. For then, if a perfon fhould be
indiSled for doing any common innocent a&, if it be
but clothed, and difguifed, in the indiUment, -ttjith
the name oftreafon,orfome other high crime, &• proved,
by witnefjes, to have beeti done by him ; the Jury,
though fatisfied in confcience, that the fall is not any
fuch offence as it is called, yet becaufe {according to
this fond opinion) they have no power to judge of
law and the fadt charged is fully proved, they fhall,
at this rate, be bound to find him guilty : And be-
ing fo found, the judge may pronounce fentence
againfl
faft is left uncertain; becaufe it is unnecejfary ; for the
law concerns itfelf with aftions, only fo far, as they are
criminal.
t From the doftrine, that Juries, in the cafe of libels,
are not judges of law, as well as faft, neceifarily flows
the following abfurdity, viz. that it is the duty of Juries
to declare men guilty, or not guilty, in whom they per-
ceive neither guilt, or innocence. Again: If becaufe a
circumftance is eftabliflied as a faiH, it is to be reputed
as a crime, every incident which happens, is a crime.
Now, if printing and publifliing only be criminal, it is
criminal to print and publiih the Book of Common
Prayer, and the Bible.
It is hard to fay, on what principles this right of Juries
can be difputed. " If Jurymen, becaufe not bred to
the law, are fuppofed incapable of knowing what is, or
what is not, law; it follows that none but lawyers can
juftly be puniflied for a breach of the law; for, furely,
that man is rather unfortunate, than faulty, who ignorant-
ly tranfgreffes the law." — Beiides, if it is wife to veft the
determination of law, where it concerns fafts, in the Jury
when any civil or criminal fuits is in queffion; certainly
it is wife to entruft the Jury with the fame power, in all
fuits which particularly concern the ftate : becaufe, in
fuch fuits, the determination is always of more confe-
quence, and judges are more likely to be under an in-
fluence, which is injurious to the rights of the people.
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againjl him, for he finds him a conviHed traitor, &c.
by his peers. And thus as a certain phyfician
boafted, that he had killed, one of his patients with
the befl method in the world; fo here fliould we
have an innocent man hanged, drawn, and quar-
tered, and all according to law.
jfurym. God forbid that any fuch thing fliould
be pradlifed ! and indeed I do not very fully under-
fland you.
Barr. I do not fay it ever hath been, and I hope
it never will be prailifed: But this I will fay, that
according to this do6trine, it may be; and confe-
quently Juries may thereby be rendered, rather a
fnare, or, engine of oppreflion, than any advantage
or guardian of our legal liberties againfl. arbitrary
injuftice, and made mere properties to do the drud-
gery, and bear the blame of unreafonable/w/few/'/-
ons. And fince you feem fo dull as not to perceive
it, let us put an imaginary cafe ; not in the leaft
to abet any irreverence towards his majefly, but
only to explain the thing, and fhew the abfurdnefs
of this opinion. Suppofe then a man fliould be
indi6led. For that he as a falfe traitor, not having
the fear of God before his eyes, &c. did, traiteroufly,
frefumptuoufly, againfl his allegiance, and with an
intent to affront his majefl^s perfon, and govern-
ment, pafs by fuch, or fuch, a royal flattce, or effigies, .
with his hat on his head, to the great contempt of
his majefly, and his authority, the evil example of o-
thers, agaitifl the peace, and his majefly s crown and
dignity. Being hereupon arraigned, and having
pleaded Not Guilty, fuppofe that fufficient evidence
fliould fwear the matter of fadt laid in the indi<5t-
ment, viz. That he did pafs by theflatue, or piShire,
with his hat on ; now imagine yourfelf one of the
Jury that were fworn to try him, what would you
do in the matter ?
yurym.
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yurym. Do ? why I fliould be fatisfied in my
confcience, that the man had not, herein, com-
mitted any crime, & fo I would bring him in, not guilty.
Barr. Yom. /peak as any honeft man would do :
but I hope you have not forgot the point we were
upon. Suppofe therefore when you thought to do
thus, the court, or one of your brethren, fliould take
you up, and tell you, that it was out of your power
fo to do: For look ye (faith he) my mafiers I we
yurymen are only to find matter of faM, which be-
ing fully proved, as in this cafe before us it is, we
muflfind the party guilty : whether the thing be trea-
fon, or not, does not belong to us to enquire ; it is
faidfo here, you fee, in the indiBment ; and let the
court look to that, they know befl ; we are not jud-
ges of law : fhall we meddle with niceties &• punc-
tilio's, and go contrary to the direflions of the court 'i
So perhaps we fhall bring ourfelves into a Praemu-
nire (as they fay) and perhaps never be fuffered to
be yurymen again. No, no the matter of fall you
fee is proved, and that is our bufmefs ; we mufl go
according to our evidence, we cannot do lefs : truly
it is fomething hard, and I pity the poor man, but
we cannot help it, &c. After thefe notable do-
cuments, what would you do now ?
yurym. I fliould not tell what to fay to it;
for I have heard feveral ancient Jurymen fpeak to
the very fame eifedt, and thought they talked very
wifely.
Barr. Well then, would you confent to bring
in the man guilty 1
yurym. Truly I fliould be fomewhat unwilling
to do it ; but I do not fee which way it can be
avoided, but that he muft be found guilty of the
fadt.
Barr. God keep every honefl body from fuch
yurymen / have you no more regard to your Oath ?
to your Confcience 1 to yuflicei to the Life of a
man ? C yurym.
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Jurym. Hold! hold! perhaps we would not
bring him in guilty generally, but only guilty of
the^^*, finding no more, but, guilty ofpaffmg by
thejlatue with his hat on.
Barr. This but poorly mends the matter, and
fignifies little or nothing : for fuch a finding hath
generally been refujed by the court, as being no ver-
dill; though, it is faid, it was lately allowed fome-
where in a cafe that required favour. But, fup-
pofe it were accepted, what do you intend Ihould
become of the prifoner ? Mufl not he be kept in
prifon till all the judges are at leifure, and wil-
ling to meet, and argue the bufinefs ? Ought you
not, and what reafon can you give why yoM fhould
not, abfolutely acquit, and difcharge him ? Nay,
I do aver, you are bound, by your oaths to do it,
by faying with your mouths to the court, what your
confcience cannot but didtate to yourfelves, Not
Guilty: For pray confider, are you not fworn.
That you will well and truly try, and true deliver-
ance make ? there is none of this flory, of matter
of fall, diflinguifhed from law in your oath. But
you are, well, that is, fully, and truly, that is,
impartially, to try the prifoner. So that if upon
your confciences, and the beft of your underfland-
ing, by what is proved againft him, you find he is
guilty of that crime wherewith he ftands charged,
that is, deferving Death, or fuch other punifhment
as the law inflidts upon an offence fo denominated;
then you are to fay, he is Guilty. But if you are
not fatisfied, that either the AH he has committed,
was treafon, or other crime, (though it be never
fo often called fo) or that the aft itfelf, if it were
fo criminal, was not done; then what remains,
but, that you are to acquit him ? for the end of
Juries
* Is not this exaftly fimilar to a late verdift given in
the cafe of the King againjl Wood/all?
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Juries is to preferve men from Oppreffion ; which
may happen, as well by impqfing, or ruining them
for that as a crime, which indeed is none, or at
lead not fuch, or fo great, as is pretended; as
by charging them with the commiffion of that,
which, in truth, was not committed. And how
do you well, and truly try, and true deliverance
make, when indeed you do but deliver him up to
others to be condemned, for that, which yourfelves
do not believe to be any crime 1
yurym. Well ; but the fuppofed cafe is a cafe
un/uppofable. It is not to be imagined, that any
fuch thing ftiould happen ; nor to be thought, that
the judges will condemn any man, though brought
in guilty by the Jury, if the matter, in itfelf, be
not fo criminal by law.
Barr. It is moft true, I do not believe that ever
that cafe will happen. I put it in a thing of ap-
parent abfurdity, that you might the more clearly
obferve the unreafonablenefs of this dodlrine ; but
withal I muft tell you that it is not impoflTible that
fome other cafes may really happen, of the fame,
or the like nature, though more fine, and plau-
fible. And, though we apprehend not, that du-
ring the reign of his majefty that now is, {wko/e
life God long preferve) any Judges will be made,
that would fo wrefi the law; yet what fecurity
is there, but that ioxae. fucceffors may not be fo cau-
tious in their choice .■• and, though our benches of
judicature be at prefent furnifhed with gentlemen
of great integrity, yet, there may one day happen
fome Trefdian, or kinfman of £mpfon's, to get in,
(for what has been may be) who, Empfon like, too,
fhall pretend it to be for his mafter's fervice to in-
creafe the number of criminals, that his coffers
may be filled with fines & forfeitures : and then
fuch mifchiefs may arife. And Juries, having
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upon confidence parted with their jujl privileges,
Jhall then, too l3.te,firive to re-affume them, when
the number of ill precedents Jhall be vouched to in-
force that as of right, which in truth was atfirji a
wrong, grounded on eafinefs and ignorance. Had
our wife, and wary anceftors, thought fit to de-
pend fo far upon the contingent honefly of judges,
they needed not to have been fo zealous to continue
the ufage of juries *■
yurym. Yet ftill I have heard, that in every
indidlment, or information, there is always fome-
thing oiform, or law, and, fomething elfe, oifafl;
and it feems reafonable, that the Jury Ihouldnot
be bound up nicely to find every formality therein
exprefled, or elfe to acquit (perhaps) a notorious
criminal. But if they find the effential matter of
the crime, then they ought to find him guilty.
Barr. You fay true, and therefore mufl note,
that there is a wide difference to be made between
words of courfe, raifed by implication of law, and
effential words, that either make, or really aggra-
vate, the crime charged. The law does fuppofe
and imply every trefpafs, breach of the peace,
every felony, murder, or treafon, to be done Vi
ET Armis, with force, and arms, ^fc. Now, if a
perfon be indidted for murder hy poifon, and the
matter proved, God forbid the jury fhould fcruple
the finding him guilty upon the indidlment ; mere-
ly becaufe they do not find that part of it, as to
force, and arms, proved ! For that is implied as a
neceflary, or allowable, _;f(Si5i« of law.
But
* If the reader is defirous of feeing tlie many unhappy
confequences, to which fuch a dependance would fubjeA.
us ; let him read the fecond poftfcript to the Letter to Al-
mon in matter of Libel. There are many obfervations .
in that publication, which give great confirmation to the
do(5lrines here laid down, and thew the writer to have
been poffefled of exceedingly great abilities, judgment,
and learning.
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But on the other fide, when the matter in iffue,
m itfelf, and taken as a naked propofition, is of
fuch a nature, as no adtion, indidlment, or infor-
mation will lie for it fmgly, but it is worked up by
fpecial aggravations into matter of damage, or
crime; as that it was done to/candalize the govern-
ment, to raife /edition, to affront authority, or the
like, or with fuch, or fuch, an evil intent : If thefe
aggravations, or fome overt adl to manifefl fuch ill
defign, or intention, be not made out by evidence,
then ought the Jury to find the party, Not Guilty.
For example :
Biihop Latimer («StMR«HdaiAi«Wi^MHBiW«ariy
11 1 :, juiu/ i T linj i ; fai ihi j-MKjfTmur M l i„ i« ii ) in
his fermon preached before the mofl excellent king
Edward VI. delivered thefe words : " I muft de-
" fire your grace to hear poor mens fuits yourfelf.
" The faying is now, That money is heard every
" where : If he be rich, he fhall foon have an end
" of his matter ; others are fain to go home with
" weeping tears for any help they can obtain at
" any judge's hand. Hear men's fuits yourfelf, I
" require you in God's behalf, and put them not
" to the hearing of thefe velvet-coats, thefe up-
" fkips. Amongfl all others, one efpecially moved
" me at this time to fpeak.- This it is, Sir: A
" gentlewoman came^and told me, that a great man
" keepeth certain lands of hers from her, and will
" be her tenant in fpite of her teeth. And that
" in a whole twelvemonth flie could not get but
" one day for the hearing of her matter, and the
" fame day, when it fliould be heard, the great
" man brought on his fide a great fight of law-
" yers for his council ; the gentlewoman had but
" one man of law, and the great man fhakes him
" fo, that he cannot tell what to do. So that
" when the matter came to the point, the judge
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was a means to the gentlewoman, that flie
(hould let the great man have a quietnefs
in her land. 1 befeech your grace, that ye
would look to thefe matters. And you proud
judges! hearken what God faith in his holy
book; Audite illos, ita parvum, ut magnum,
Hear them (faith he) the fmall as well as the
great ; the poor as well as the rich ,• regard no
perfon, fear no man. And why ? Quia Domi-
ni judicium eft, The judgment is God's. Mark
this faying, thou proud judge; the devil will
bring this fentence againft thee at the day of
doom. Hell will be full of thefe judges, if they
repent not, and amend : they are worfe than
the wicked judge that Chrifl: fpeaketh of, Luke
the 19th, that neither feared God nor the
world. Our judges are worfe than this judge
was ; for they will neither hear men for God's
fake, nor fear of the world, nor importunate-
nefs, nor any thing elfe ; yea, fome of them
will command them to *ward if they be im-
portunate. I heard fay, that when a fuitor
came to one of them, he faid. What fellow is it
that giveth thefe folks counfel to be fo importu-
nate ? He deferves to be punilhed, and commit-
ted to ward. Marry, Sir, punifli me then ; it is
even I that gave them counfel ; I would gladly
be punilhed in fuch a caufe ; and if you amend
not, I will caufe them to cry out upon you (till ;
even as long as I live." ■ — Thefe are the very
words of that good bilhop, and martyr, father La-
timer : " But now-a-days the judges be afraid to
" hear a poor man againft the rich ; infomuch,
" they will either pronounce againft him, or fo
" drive off the poor man's fuit, that he Ihall not
" be able to go through with it f."
jfurym.
* Prifon.
t See alfo Latimer's Third Sermon.
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yurym. Truly they are fomewhat bold, but I
think very honejl ones. But what fignify they to
our difcourfe ?
£arr. Only this ; — Suppofe the judges of
thofe times, thinking themfelves aggrieved by fuch
his freedom, ftiould have brought an indiilment
againft him, fetting forth, thatfaljly, and malici-
oujly, intending to fcandalize the government, and
the adminijlration of jujlice, in this realm, and to
bring the fame into contempt, he did fpeak, publifh,
and declare the falfe, and fcandalous, words be-
fore recited.
yurym. I conceive, the judges had more wit
than to trouble themfelves about fuch a bufmefs.
Barr. That is nothing to the purpofe ; but fup-
pofe,I fay,by them,or any body elfe,it had been done,
and his fpeaking the words had been proved, and
you had then been living, and one of the Jury ?
yurym. I would have pronounced him Not Guil-
ty, and he.&n.flarved to death before I would have
confented to a contrary verdidl ; becaufe the words
in themfelves are not criminal, nor refledting upon
any particulars ; and as for what is fuppofed to
be laid in the indidtment, or information, (that
they were publiflied, or fpoken, to fcandalize the
government, and the adminijlration of jujlice, or to
bring the fame into contempt) nothing of that ap-
pears.
Barr. You refolve, as every honeft, underftand-
ing, confcientious man, would do in the like cafe ;
for when a man is profecuted for that, which, in
itfelf, is no crime, how dreadfully foever it may
be fet out, as the inquifitors in Spain ufe to clothe
innocent Proteflants, whom they confign to the
flames with Sambenito's, garments all over bepaint-
eft with Devils, that the people beholding them
in fo hellifli a drefs, may be fo far from pitying
them, that they may rather condemn them in their
thoughts
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thoughts as mijcreants not worthy to live, though
in truth they know nothing of their caufe ; — yet
I fay, notwithftanding any fuch bugbear artifices,
an innocent man -ought to be acquitted, and not
he and all his family ruined, and perhaps utterly
undone, for words, or matters, harmlefs in them-
felves, and poflibly very well intended, but only
rendered criminal, by being thus hideoufly drelTed
up, and wrefted with fome far-fetched, forced, and
odious conftruftion.
yurym. This is a matter well worthy the con-
fideration of all Juries ; for indeed I have often
wondered to obferve the adverbs in declarations,
indidtments, and informations, in fome cafes to be
harmlefs vinegar and pepper, and in others, henbane
Jieeped in aquafortis.
Barr. That may eafily happen, where the
Jury does not difiinguijh legal implications, from
fuch as conftitute, or materially aggravate, the
crime : for if the Jury fliall honeftly refufe to find
the latter in cafes where there is not direiSt proof
of them, (viz. That fuch an adt was done faljly,
Jcandaloujly, malicioujly, with an intent to raijefe-
dition, defame' the government, or the like,) their
mouths are not to be flopt, nor their confciences
fatisfied with the court's telling them — You have
nothing to do with that ; it is only matter of form
or matter of law : you are only to examine the fall,
whether he fpoke fuch words, wrote, or fold fuch a
book, or the like * : For now, if they (hould igno-
rantly take this for an anfwer, and bring in the
prifoner Guilty, though they mean and intend, of
the
* A prophet 1 — Our modem patriots have often been the
fubjefts of ridicule, on account of their apprehenfions :
however, we have lived to fee the completion of feveral
prediftions, here made by one of our anceftors; and our
pofterity may, in the fame manner, have reafon to be con-
vinced, that thofe made in our times are not entirely
without foundation.
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the naked faEi, or bare adt, only ; yet the clerk
recording it, demands a further confirmation, fay-
ing to them, thus ; Well then, you fay A. B. is
guilty of the trefpafs, or mif demeanour, in manner,
and form, as heflands indiSled; andfo you fay all)
To which the foreman anfwers for himfelf and
his fellows, Yes. Whereupon the verdidl is drawn
up — jfuratores fuper facramentum fuum dicunt, &c.
The yurors do fay upon their oaths, that A. B. ma-
licioujly, in contempt of the king and the government,
with an intent to fcandalize the adminiflration of
fuflice, Of to bring the fame into contempt, or to ratfe
fedition, &c. (as the words before were laid) ; fpake
fuch words , publifhed fuch a book, or did fuch an
ail, againfl the peace of our lord the kingj his crown
and dignity.
Thus a VERDICT, fo called in law, quafi veri-
tatis, becaufe it ought to be the voice, or saying,
of TRUTH t itfelf, may become compofed in its
material part of falfhood. Thus twelve men ig-
norantly drop into aperjury. And will not every
confcientious Man tremble to pawn his foul under
the facred, and dreadful, folemnity of an oath, to
attelt, and juftify, a lye upon record to all pofleri-
ty ? befides the wrong done to the prifoner, who
thereby perhaps comes to be hanged, (and fo the
Jury in foro confcientice are certainly guilty of his
murther-^ or at leafl. hy fine, or imprtfonment, un-
done, with all his family ; whofe juft curfes will
fall heavy on fuch unjuft Jurymen, and all their
poflerity, that againfl their oaths, and duty, occa-
fioned their caufelefs mifery. And is all this, think
you, nothing but a matter oi formality 2
yurym. Yes, really, a matter of vafi impor-
tance, and fad confideration ; yet I think you
charge the mifchiefs done by fuch proceedings a
little
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little too heavy upon the Jurors : Alas, good men !
they mean no harm, they do but follow the direc-
tions of the court ; if any body ever happen to be
to blame in fuch cafes, it muft be the Judges.
Barr. Yes, forfooth ! that's the Jurymens
common plea ; but do you think it will hold good
in the court of Heaven ? 'Tis not enough that we
mean no harm, but we muft do none neither, efpeci-
ally in things of that moment; nor will igno-
rance excufe, where it is affe£led, and where duty
obliges us to inform ourfelves better, and where the
matter is fo plain and eafy to be underftood.
As for the judges, they have a fairer plea than
you, and may quickly return the burthen back upon
the Jurors : For we, may they fay, did nothing but
our duty, according to ufual prallice : the Jury, his
peers, had found the fellow guilty upon their oaths,
of fuch an odious crime, and attended with fuch
vile prefumptions, and dangerous circumflances.
They are Judges; we took him as they prefented him
to us ; and according to our duty pronounced thefen-
tence, that the law infli£ls in fuch cafes, or fet a
fine, or ordered corporeal punifhment upon him,
which was very moderate, confidering the crime laid
in the indi^ment, or information, and of which they
had fo fworn him guilty. If he were innocent, or
notfo bad as reprefented, let his deflrullion lie upon
the yury, &c. At this rate, if ever we fhould have
an unconfcionable Judge, might he argue ; and
thus the guilt of the blood, or ruin, of an innocent
man, when it is too late, fliall be bandied to and
fro, and Jhuffled off from the Jury to the Judge,
and from the Judge to the Jury ; but reaWy flicks
fafl to both, but efpecially on the Jurors ; becaufe
the very end of their infdtution was to prevent all
dangers of fuch oppreffion ; and in every fuch
cafe, they do not only wrong their own fouls, and
irreparably
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irreparably injure a particular perfon, but alfo
bafely betray the liberties of their country in gene-
ral : for as without their ill compliance and aS, no
fuch Tnifchief can happen ; Jo by //, ill precedents
are made, is' the plague is increafed; honejler jfuries
are diftieartened, or /educed by cujtomfrom their du-
ties ; jujl privileges are lojl by difufer ; and perhaps
within a while fame of them/elves may have an hole
picked in their coats, and then they are tried by ano-
ther yury juJl as wife, and horufl, andfo defervedly
come to fmart under the ruinating effedts, and ex-
ample, of their own folly and injuflice.
yurym. You talk oi folly, and blame Jurymen,
when indeed they cannot help it. They would
fometimes find fuch a perfon Guilty, and fuch an
one Innocent, and are perfuaded they ought fo to
do ; but the court over-rules, and forces them to
do otherwife.
Barr. How, I pray ?
yurym. How ? why, did you never hear a
Jury threatened to be fined and imprifoned, if they
did not comply with the fentiments of the court ?
Barr. I have read of fuch doings, but I never
heard, or faw it done ; and indeed I do not doubt
but ova feats of juflice are furnifhed with both bet-
ter men, and better lawyers, than to ufe any fuch
menaces or durefs ; for undoubtedly it is a bafe, and
very illegal, pradlice. But however, will any man
\!a.zX fears God, nay, that is but an honefl heathen,
debauch his confcience and forfwear himfelf, do his
neighbour injuftice, betray his country's liberties,
and confequently enflave himfelf, and his poflerity,
and all this, merely, becaufe he is hectored, and
threatened a little ?
yurym. I know it fliould not fway with any :
but alas, z.prifon is terrible to moft men, whatever
the caufe be ; and the_;?«^ may be fuch, if one fhall
refufe to comply, as may utterly ruin one's family.
Barr.
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Barr. Fright not yourfelf ; there is no caufe for
this ague-fit, to fhake your confcience out of frame :
if you are threatened, 'tis but Brutunt fulmen,
lightning without a thunderbolt, nothing but big
words ; for it is well known, That there is
NEVER A Judge in England that can fine,
OR Imprison, any Juryman in such a Case.
yurym. Good Sir ! I am half afhamed to hear a
Barrijler talk thus : have not fome in our memo-
ry been fined & imprifoned ? And fure that which
has alhially been done, is not altogether impoffible.
Barr. Your fervant. Sir ! under favour of your
mighty wifdom, & experience, when I said no judge
could do it, I fpake the more like a Barrijler ; for
it is a maxim in law — Id pojfumus, quod Jure pof-
fumus ; a man is faid to be able to do only fo much,
as he may lawfully do. But fuch fining, and im-
prifoning, cannot lawfully be done ; the judges
have no right, or power, by law, to do it ; and
therefore it may well be faid, they cannot, or are
not able to do it.
And whereas you fay, that fome juries in our
memory have been fined and imprifoned, you may
pofTibly fay true ; but it is as true, that it hath
been only in our memory ; for no fuch thing was
praftifed in antient times ; for fo I find it afTerted
by a late learned judge *, in thefe pofitive words :
No cafe can be offered, either before attaints grant-
ed in general, or after, that ever a jFury was punijh-
ed by fine and imprifonment by any judge, for not
finding according to their evidence, and his direltion,
until Popham's tim£ ; nor is there clear proof , thdt
he ever fined them for that reafon, feparated from
other mtf demeanours. And fol. 152, he affirms, —
That no man can fhew, that a Jury was ever pu-
nifhed upon an information, either at law, or in the
Star-Chamber, where the charge was only for find-
ing
* Lord chief juftice Vaughan in his Reports, fol. 146.
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ing againft their evidence, or giving an untrue ver-
diH; unlefs imbracery, fubordination, or the like
were joined. So that, you fee, the attempt is an
innovation as well as unjujt ; a thing unknown
to our fore-fathers, and the ancient ^^i?j of the
law : and therefore fo much the more to be watch-
ed agaxnti., refifted, and fuppreffed,whilftj'i?««^; left
in time this crafty cockatrices egg, hatched, and
foftered by ignorance, and pufiUanimous compli-
ance, grow up into z-ferpent too big to be mafter-
ed, and fo blafl, and deftroy the firji-born of our
Englijh freedoms. And indeed (bleffed be God)
it hath hitherto been rigoroufly oppofed as often
as it durft crawl abroad ; being condemned in par-
liament, and knocked o'th' head by the refolutions
of ^e^ judges upon folemn argument : as, by and
by, I Ihall demonftrate.
yurym. Well, but are Jurors not liable then to
fine or imprifonment, in any cafe whatfoever ?
JBarr. Now you run from the point ; ijve were
talking of giving their verdidt, and you fpeak of any
cafe whatfoever. Whereas you fhould herein ob-
ferve a neceflary diftinftion, which I fliall give you
in the words of that learned judge lafl; recited * :
Much of the office of furors, in order to their ver-
diB, is Ministerial : as not withdrawing from
their felloivs after they are fworn ; not receiving
from either fide evidence not given in court ; not
eating and drinking before their verdiil ; refufing to
give a verdiB, &c. wherein if they tranfgrefs, they
may befineable. But the verdict itfelf when given,
is not an ail minifierial, but Judicial, and (Jup-
pofed to be) according to the befi of their judgment ;
for which they are not finable, nor to be punifhed,
but by attaint ; that is, by another jfury, in cafes
where an attaint lies, and where it ihall be found
that wilfully, they gave a verdi6t,/«^ and corrupt.
D Now
* Vaughan% Reports, fol. 152.
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Now that Juries, otherwife, are in no cafe punijh-
able, nor can (for giving their verdift according to
their confciences, and the beft of their judgment)
be legally ^«^^ or imprifoned by any judge, on co-
lour of not going according to their evidence, or
finding contrary to the dir^flions of the court j is a
truth, both founded on unanfwerable reajons, and
confirmed by irrefragable authorities.
yurym. Thofe I would gladly hear.
Barr. They are many, but fome of the moft e-
vident are thefe that follow. As for reafons :
1. A Jury ought not to be fined, or imprifoned,
becaufe they do not follow the judge's direftions ;
for if they do follow his diredtions, they may yet
be attainted : and to fay they gave their verdi(5t
according to his diredtions, is no bar but the
judgment fhall be rever/ed, and ihty J)unijhed for
doing that, which if they had not done, they
fhould (by this opinion) have been fined, and im-
prifoned by the judge. — Which is unreafonable.
2. If they ^1? not follow his diredtion, and be
therefore fined, yet they may be attainted, and fo
they (hould be doubly punilhed by diflindt judica-
tures for the fame offence ; which the common
law never admits.
3. To what end is the Jury to be returned out
of the vicinage (that is, the neighbourhood) whence
the iffue arifeth ? to what end muft hundredors be
of the Jury, whom the law fuppofeth to have near-
er knowledge of the fa6t than thofe of the vicinage
in general ? to what end are they challenged fo
fcrupuloufly to the array and polli to what end
muft they have fuch a ct\ta.\n freehold, and h&probi,
df legates, homines, and not of affinity With the par-
ties concerned, dr'c. if after all this, they implicitly
muft give a verdidl by the didtates, and authority
of another man, under pain oi fines, and imprifon-
ment, when fworn to do it according to the beft of
their
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their own knowledge i A man cannot fee by ano-
ther's eye, nor hear by another's ear ; no more can
a man conclude, or in/er, the tiling to be refolved
by another's underftanding, or reafoning j unlefs
all mens underftandings were equally alike. And
if, merely in compliance, becaufe the judge fays
thus, or thus, a Jury fliall give a verdidt ; tho' fuch
their verdidt (hould happen to be right, true, & juft ;
yet they being not affured it isfo from their own un-
derftanding zx&for/wom, at leaft inforo con/cientice.
4. Were Jurors fo finable, then every mayor,
and bailiff of corporations, all ftewards of leets,
juftices of peace, &>€. whatever matters are tried
before them, (hall have verdills to their minds, or
elfe fine, and imprifon the Jurors till they have ;
fo that fuch mufl be either pleafed, humoured, or
gratified, elfe no juftice, or right, is to be had in
any court.
5. Whereas a perfon by law may challenge the
Iheriff, or any Juryman, if of kin to his adverfary ;
yet he cannot challenge a mayor, recorder, juftice,
&'€. who 'tis poflible will have a verdidt for their
kin/man, or againft their enemy, or elfe fine and im-
prifon the Jury till they have obtained it : fo that
by this means our lives, liberties, and properties,
fliall be folely tried by, and remain at the arbitrary
difpofal of every mercenary, or corrupted juftice,
mayor, bailiff, or recorder, if any fuch Ihould, at
any time, get into office.
6. 'Tis unreafonable that a Jury fhould be
finable on pretence of their going againft their evi-
dence; becaufe it can never be tried whether or
no in truth they did find with, or againft, their
evidence, by reafon no writ of error lies in the
cafe.*
D 2 7. Were
* And the5r may of their own knowledge have infor-
mation of various matters to exculpate, or condemn, of
which the judge is wholly ignorant.
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7- Were Jurymen liable to fuch arbitrary fines,
they would be in a worfe condition than the cri-
minals that are tried by them ; for in all civil ac-
tions, informations, and indictments, fome appeals,
or writs of falfe judgement, or of error, do lie into
fuperior courts to try the jegular proceedings of
the inferior. But here can be no after-trial, or ex-
amination ; but the Juryman (if fining at all were
lawful) mufl either pay the fine, or lie by it ;
without remedy to decide, whether in his particular
cafe he were legally fined, or not.
8. Without a fadt agreed, it is as impofTible for
a judge, or any other to know the law, relating to
that fadl, or direH concerning it, as to know an ac-
cident that hath no fubjeft ; for as, where there
is no law, there is no tranfgrejjlon, fo where there
is no tranfgrejfion, there is no place for law : for the
law (faith divine authority) is made for the tranf-
grejjbr. And as Coke tells us, Ex Faflo jhis oritur,
upon ftating the fadl, or tranfgreffion, matter of
law doth arife, or grow out of the root of the fa(5l.
Now the Jury being the fole judges of fail, and
matter in ifjue before them, not finding the fadl
on which the law fliould arife, cannot be faid to find
againfl law, which is no other than a fuperflrudture
on fadl ; fo that to fay they have found againfb the
law, when no fall is found, is abfurd ; an expreffion
infignificant, and unintelligible. For no tffue can
be joined of matter in law, no Jury can be charged
with the trial of matter in law barely, no evidence
ever was, or can be, given to a Jury of what is
law, or not : nor can any fuch oath be given to,
or taken by a Jury, to try matter in law, nor does
an attaint lie for fuch oath, if falfe, ^'c. But if
by finding againfl the direflions of the court in mat-
ter of law, (hall be underftood, that if the judge
having heard the evidence given in court, (for he
can regularly know no other, though the Jury may)
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fliall tell the Jury upon this evidence, the law is
for the plaintiff, or for the defendant, and the Jury
are under /«/« of fine, and imprifonment, to find
accordingly ; then it is plain, the Jury ought of
duty fo to do. Now if this were true, who fees not
that the Jury is but a troublefome delay, of great
charge, much formality, and no real ufe in deter-
mining right, and wrong, but mere echoes to found
back the pleafure of the court ; and confequently,
that trials by them might be better abolifhed than
continued ? which is at once to fpit folly in the
faces of our venerable anceftors, and enflave our
pofterity.
9. As the judge can never direct what the law
is in any matter controverted, ■mXhovXfirfl knowing
Has. fan ; fo, he' cannot, poffibly, know thefadt but
from the evidence which the Jury have: but he
can never fully know what evidence they have ;
for befides what is fworn in court, (which is all
that the judge can know) the Jury, being of the
neighbourhood, may, and oft-times do, know fome-
thing of their own knowledge, as to the matter it-
felf, the credit of the evidence, dfc. which may
juftly fway them in delivering their verdi<5l, and
which felf-knowledge of theirs is fo far countenanced
by law, that it fuppofes them capable thereby to
try the matter in ifiue, (and fo they muft) though
no evidence were given, on either fide, in court.
As when any man is indidted, and no evidence
comes againft him, the direction of the court al-
ways is. You are to acquit him, unlefs of your own
knowledge you know him guilty ; fo that even,
in that cafe, they may find him guilty,
without any witnefles. Now how abfurd is it to
think, that any judge has power to fine a jury for
going againft their evidence, when he that fo fineth,
knoweth perhaps nothing of their evidence at all,
(as in the laft cafe) or at leaft but fome partot it ?
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For how is it poiEble he fliould lawfully punifli
them for that, which it is impoffible for him to
know ?
Laflly, Is any thing more common, than for two
lawyers, or judges, to deduce contrary, and oppofite
conclufions out of ihe.fame cafe in law ? And why
then may not two men infer diflindt conclufions
from the fame tejiimony 1 And confequently, may
not the Judge, and Jury, honeftly differ in their
opinion, or refult from the evidence, as well as two
judges may, which often happens ? And fhall the
yurymenv!\e.xe\^iot this difference of apprehenfion,
merit fine, and imprifonment, becaufe they do that
which they cannot otherwife do, preferving their
oath and integrity ? efpecially when by law they
are prefumed to know better, and much more of
the bufinefs, than the judge does, as aforefaid.
Are not all thefe, grofs contradicting abfurdi-
ties, and unworthy (by any man that deferves a
gown) to be put upon the law of England, which
has ever owned right reqfon for its parent, and du-
tifully fubmitted to be guided thereby ?
jfurym. If the law, as you fay, be reajon, then
undoubtedly this pra6tice oifining of Juries is moft
illegal, fince there cannot be any thing more un-
rea/onable : but what authorities have you againft
it?
JSarr. You have heard it proved to be z: mo-
dern upflart encroachment, fo you cannot expedt
any diredt, or exprefs condemnation of it in ancient
times; becaufe the thing was not the.n fet on foot.
And, by the way, though negative arguments are
not neceffarily conclufive, yet that we meet with no
precedents of old of Juries fined, for giving their
verdidl contrary to evidence, or the fenfe of the
court, is a violent prefumption that it ought not
to be done .■ for it cannot be fuppofed, that this
latter age didfr/l of all difcover, that verdidts were
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many times not according to the judge's opinion
and liking. Undoubtedly they faw that as well as
we j but knowing the fame not to be any crime,
or punijhable by law, were fo modejl and honejl, as
not to meddle with it. However, what entertain-
ment it hath met with, when attempted in our
times, I fhall fliew you in two remarkable cafes.
I. When the late lord chief juftice Keeling had
attempted fomething of that kind, it was complain-
ed of, and highly relented by the Xhexv parliament ;
as appears by this copy of thtir proceedings there-
upon, taken out of their journal, as follows.
Die Mercurii, ii Decembris, 1667.
' The houfe refumed the hearing of the refl: of
' the report touching the matter of rejlraint upon
' juries, and that upon the examination of divers
' witneffes in feveral cafes of reflraints put upon
' Juries by the lord chief juftice Keeling; and there-
' upon refolved as followeth :
' Firfb, That the proceedings of the faid lord
' chief juftice, in the cafes now reported, are inno-
' vations in the trial of men for their lives, and li-
' berties. And that he hath ufed an arbitrary, and
' illegal power, which is of dangerous confequence
' to the lives and liberties of the people of England,
' and tends to the introducing of an arbitrary go-
' vernment.
' Secondly, That in the place of judicature the
' lord chief juflice hath undervalued, vilified, and
' contemned Magna Charta the great Preser-
' VER of our lives, freedom, and property.
' Thirdly, That he be brought to trialin order to
' condign puni/kment, in fuch manner as the houfe
' fhall judge rnofl. fit, and requifite.'
I?ie Veneris, 13 Decembris, 1667.
' Refolved,