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Ordered, That a Select Committee be appoihted to inquire into the Condition, ment and i)ifFairs of the British Museum. And a Committee was appointed of — Mr. Hawes. Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. Ewart. Mr. Ridley Colborne. Mr. Estcourt. Mr. Bonham Carter. Dr. Bowring. Mr. Spring Rice. Earl of Kerry. Mr.jPoulett Scrope. Mr. Compton. Mr. Warburton. Lord Stanley. Mr. Emerson Tennent. Mr. Bingham Baring. Mr. Evelyn Denison. Sir Philip Egertoni. Mr. Clay. Mr. Baring. Lord Francis Egerton, Mr. John Parker. Lord John Russell. Lord Viscount Sandon. Lord Dalmeny. Mr. Robert Clive. Sir Robert Inglis. Mr. Thornely. Mr. Fazakerly. Lord Claude Hamilton. Mr. Peasel Lord Viscount Morpeth. Mr. Elphinstone. Mr. Ross. Ordered, That the said Committee have power to send for Persons, Papers and Records. Ordered, That Five be the Quorum of the Committee. THE REPORT - p. Ill MINUTES OF EVIDENCE -------pi APPENDIX o - - p. 289 INDEX - P- 573 I iii ] REPORT. THE SELECT COMMITTEE appointed to inquire into the Condition, . Management and Affairs of the British Museum, and who were empowered to report the Minutes of the Evidence taken before them ; Have agreed to the following REPORT : "VT'OUR Committee have proceeded in the subject of the Inquiry entrusted to them, but have not been able to continue it so far as to enable them to report any Resolutions to The House ; and, there- fore, while they submit herewith the Evidence which they have already taken, they do not think it right to accompany it with any other recommendation than that of the expediency of appointing, at the commencement of the next Session, a Committee for the purpose of pursuing and completing the Inquiry thus commenced. 6 August 1835. [ iv J LIST OF WITNESSES. Lunae, 18' die Maii, 1835. Sir Henry Ellis - - - p. 1 Jo vis, 21° die Maii, 1835. ^it Henry Ellis - - - p. 14 Lunae, 25" die Maii. 1 855. - -1 Sir Henry Ellis - Rev. Josiah Forshall J p. 29 Lunae, 1" die Junii, 1835. Rev. Josiah Ear shall - - p. 42 Veneris, 5' die Junii, 1 8^5. Rev. Josiah Forshall - ■ P- 59 Veneris, 12' die Junii, 1835. Rev. Josiah Forshall Mr. MawerCowtan Sir Henry Ellis p. 70. 72 - p. 71 pp. 72. 77 Lunae, 15° die Junii, 1835. Rev. Josiah Forshall - p. 82-101 Mr. Mawer Cowtdn - - p. 83 , Sir Henry Ellis - pp. 83-101 Veneris, 19° die Junii, 1835. Mr. Mawer Cowtan - - p. 101 Sir Henry Ellis - - - p. 101 Rev. Josiah Forshall - - p. 102 Lunae, 22° die Junii, 1835. Sir Henry Ellis - - p. 121. 128 Rev. Josiah Forshall - p. 126, 136 Veneris, 26° die Junii, 1835. Rev. Josiah Forshall - - p. 140 Sir Henry Ellis - - - p. 140 Sir Frederick Madden - - p. 153 Mr. Mawer Cowtan - - p. 161 Lunae, 29' die Junii, 1835. Rev. Josiah Forshall - - p. 162 S\v Henry Ellis - - pp. 163. 172 Sir Frederick Madden - - p. 163 Mr. Jofin Millard r - ?• 165 Jovis, 2° die Julii, 1835. Mr. John Millard - - p. 173 Sir Henry Ellis - - p. 173. 177 Rev. Josiah Forshall - - p. ^73 Sir Frederick Madden - - P- 1 73 Luke Graves Hansard^ Esq. - p. 1 74 Lunas, 20° die Julii, 1835. Charles Kmig, Esq. - * P- 1 ^5 Mercurii, 22° die Julii, 1835. Mr. George Clowes - - p. 198 Charles Kmig, Esq. - pp. 199. 211 Rev. Josiah Forshall - - p- 209 Veneris, 24° die Julii, 1835. John George Children, Esq. ■• p. 214 Mr. John Edzoard Gray p. 227 Lunae, 270 die Julii, 1835. Mr. John Edward Gray - p. 232 John George Children, Esq. - p. 244 Edward HawkinSi Esq. - - p. 249 Mercurii, 29° die Julii, 1 835. Petro Angel Sarti - - p. 255 - p. 259 - p. 268 Veneris, 31° die Julii, 1835. Edward Harvkins, Esq. - - p. 274 - P- 276 Robert Brown, Esq. Mr. George Samouelle Mr. George Samouelle - Lunae, 3° die Augusti, 1835, Mr, George Samouelle - . p 281 Richard Westmacott, Esq., r. a. p! 282 ^\r Henry Ellis - . -0.281 [ 1 ] MINUTES OF EVIDENCE. Luna, 18° die Mail, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Sir Henry Ellis, Principal Librarian of the British Museum, called in ; and Examined. 1, "TTTILL you inform the Committee what offices you hold in the British sit Henry Ellis. VV Museum? — I hold the office of Principal Librarian, which was given _ . to me under His Majesty's sign-manual. I also hold another office called that of i8 May 1835. Expenditor, which was given to me by the Three Principal Trustees. 2. How long have you held the office of principal librarian ? — Since the year 1827. As principal librarian I have a salary of 500 /. a year; I have no salary or emoluments from the office of expenditor. 3. Who are The Principal Trustees ? — The Archbishop of Canterbury, the Lord Chancellor, and The Speaker of the House of Commons. 4. You state you receive no salary as expenditor ; is there any indirect emolu- ment or patronage attached to the office ? — None whatever. 5. No patronage ? — None whatever. 6. Is there any patronage attached to the office of principal librarian ? — The housemaids' places are in my gift, and I also appoint the watchmen. 7. Is there no other patronage attached to the office ? — No. 8. Do you recommend the other appointments in the Museum to the trustees ? — No, I do not, unless I am consulted. Sometimes the trustees have desired me to find a person to fill an inferior office. 9. And occasionally, in point of fact, you execute that duty of the trustees in appointing to certain offices? — No, it is quite accidental. I do not think such a thing has happened for four or five years. 10. When it happens it is always by delegation from the trustees? — Yes. The appointment of housemaids arises out of a minute of the trustees, made soon after the foundation of the Museum, by which the principal librarian was directed to find proper persons for these places, and that order has continued in operation ever since it was made. 11. Will you state to the Committee the origin of the Museum? — It originated with Sir Hans Sloane's collection. He had expended a long life and a large sum of money in collecting books, manuscripts, and rarities of every description ; and it was a matter of public opinion that that collection should be preserved for pos- terity. Towards the close of his life it was understood that he would make an offer of it to the public, by his will, and in his will he did make the offer, I think for 20,000 /., that that collection, which had cost him upwards of 50,000 I., should be transferred to trustees for the public use. It was accordingly made the foun- dation of the British Museum. Just at that time Lord Oxford's collection of manuscripts was on sale, and Government purchased Lord Oxford's manuscripts, to which was added the Cottonian collection ; and a small library of printed books, collected by Major Arthur Edwards, was also added. Then, three years after- wards, or thereabouts, King George II., under an instrument which passed the great seal, gave the old royal library of the Kings of England, the printed books of which had been collected from the time of Henry VII., and the manu- 479. B * scripts 2 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis. Scripts from the time of Richard II. to the time of Charles II. These coUee- tions were all brought together when the present Museum was established. 18 May 1835. 12. Will you state to the Committee the nature of the constitution of the British Museum ? — The government of the Museum is consigned to 48 trustees. There are at present but 47, including 23 official trustees, nine family trustees, and 15 elected trustees, who are elected by the other ^^. One Sloane trustee- ship is vacant, so that there are only 47 trustees at the present moment. 13. Is the Sloane tn'steeship an elective trusteeship? — No, it is a family trus- teeship ; Lord Cadogan has the appointment of the two trustees. 14. Does the Museum possess any charter of incorporation ? — No, it is incor- porated by Act of Parliament. 15. Is there any charter recited in the Act of Parliament r — I believe not. 1 6. Will you state who are the present official" trustees ? — The three principal trustees are the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Lord Chancellor, and The Speaker of the House of Commons. The 20 others are the Lord President of the Council, the First Lord of the Treasury, the Lord Privy Seal, the First Lord of the Ad- miralty, the Lord Steward, the Lord Chamberlain, the three Principal Secretaries of State, the Bishop of London, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, the Master of the Rolls, the Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, the Attorney General, the Solicitor General, the President of the Royal Society, the President of the College of Physicians, the President of the Society of Antiquaries, and the President of the Royal Academy. 1 7. Will you state who are the present family trustees ? — The Sloane trustee is Lord Cadogan, who is the only one at present. The Cottonian trustees are the Rev. Arthur Annesley and George Booth Tyndale, esq. The Harleian trustees are Lord Hen. W. Bentinck and Earl Cawdor. Lord Cawdor was appointed by the Duke of Portland to succeed Lord Dovqr. The Townleian trustee is Peregrine Edward Townley, esq. The Earl of Elgin is the trustee of the Elgin family ; and Thomas Andrew Knight, esq., is the trustee for the Knight family. There is also a Royal trustee, who is the Duke of Northumberland. 18. Will you state who are the elected trustees? — Lord St. Helens is the eldest, Earl of Harrowby, Lord Farnborough, Earl of Aberdeen, the Duke of Rut- land, the Marquis Camden, the Marquis of Lansdowne, Lord Ashburton, the Right Hon. Thomas Grenville, Earl of Eldon, Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, the Duke of Hamilton, Earl of Derby, Lord Fitzgerald, and Sir Robert H. Inghs, bart. 19. Will you inform the Committee what constitutes the qualification for the office of family trustee ? — I know of no qualification but the appointment of the family under the several Acts of Parliament by which the particular collections have been obtained or purchased, which declare that certain members -of those families shall be trustees ; in order, I conclude, that they may see the fulfilment of the contract as to preservation from time to time. 20. Will you state how they are appointed ? — They are appointed, every one of them, I believe, in a different manner under the separate Acts of Parliament. For instance, with respect to the Cottonian collection, which had previously been in the hands of trustees, the Act of Parliament which transferred it to the Museum, directed that, after the deaths of the then Cottonian trustees, it should and might be lawful to and for Frances Hanbury, widow, the heir-general of Sir Robert Cotton, and after her decease, to her heirs male, being of full age, and in default of such issue, to her daughters, as they respectively should be in priority of birth, severally and in remainder, successively, to nominate fit persons to supply the places of the said trustees. The Rev. Arthur Annesley is now the heir-general of Frances Hanbury; and the heir-general appoints the two trustees. He appointed himself in the first instance, and his cousin and brother- in-law, Mr. Tyndale, in the second. 21. The office, then, is hereditary ? — The appointmetit is hereditary. 22. Is there any fixed age at which an hereditary trustee is eligible to the office? — Several of the Acts of Parliament say of full age. 23. Should an hereditary trustee be a minor or an idiot, or otherwise disquali- fied for the office, what would be done in that case ? — The Act which relates to the Sloane trustees directs, that after the decease of Lord Cadogan and Mr. Hans Stanley, " it shall and maybe lawful for the heirs male of their bodies and upon failure of the heirs male of the body of either of them, to and for the'heirs male of the body of the other of them, being of full age, or their respective guardian SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 3 guardian or guardians during their minority, to nominate a trustee for the Sir Henry Ellis. purpose of this Act in the room of the person last nominated by the survivor of ~ them ; and so as often as any person supplying the place of the said Charles ^® ^^^ ^^^' Lord Cadogan or Hans Stanley shall happen to die." There is a similar pro- vision with respect to the Cottonian trustees. All the family trusteeships are under different regulations. I believe I may say there is one hereditary trustee, the Earl of Elgin. The Act says, that whoever has the style and title of Earl of Elgin shall be a trustee. 24. In fact, then, one is an hereditary trustee ? — It amounts to that. Whoever is Earl of Elgin is to be a trustee of the British Museum. 25. Though he be a minor or an idiot? — I do not recollect the words of the Act sufficiently to say how that is. 26. As the trusteeship in the Elgin family is hereditary, should the hereditary trustee of that family be a minor or an idiot, or otherwise disqualified, what would be done by the trustees of the British IMuseum in that case ?^ — They would not interfere, I should think. We went without two Sloane trustees for a con- siderable length of time. 27. Then suppose an hereditary appointer of trustees is a minor or an idiot, or otherwise disqualified, does the Act of Parliament meet that contingency ?^ — Most of the Acts do. 28. You have stated the only hereditary trusteeship to be in the family of the Earl of Elgin. By the Act of the 5 Geo. IV., c. 60, which was passed to carry into effect the will of Richard Payne Knight, esq., it is provided, " that from and after the passing of this Act, the said Thomas Andrew Knight, being such descendant as aforesaid, shall be added to and associated with the trustees for the time being of the said British Museum, as an hereditary trustee of the Museum, with all the privileges of the other family trustees of the said Museum, with perpetual succession to his descendants in the direct male line so long as any shall exist?" — There is an hereditary trustee in that family; I did not recollect that. 29. Are you prepared to say there are no other hereditary trustees besides the two that are now instanced P-^I am confident there are no others. 30. Have the families any power to nominate and appoint trustees indepen- dently of the trustees for the British Museum for the time being ? — The different Acts of Parliament specify the parties who are to nominate the family trustees. I should say, for instance, when Mr. Annesley presented himself as a trustee of the British Musuem, the trustees begged to have some document by which he should show he was the heir-general of Frances Hanbury. Mr. John Townley appointed himself in writing. 31. Have the trustees of the British Museum any veto on such appoint- ment ? — I should say not. I have belonged to the British Museum 35 years, and I never heard of such a thing. 32. Then whatever may be the qualification or character of the person so nominated, being nominated under an Act of Parliament, the trustees would have no veto on the appointment? — Certainly none. 33. Have the trustees of the British Museum the power of appointing family trustees without applying to Parliament? — Not without an Act of Parliament. 34. What is the amount of any donation or bequest which, in the opinion or practice of the trustees, will give the donor a claim to be appointed a family trustee ? — I do not know that that has ever entered into the contemplation of the trustees. I remember once hearing Mr. Payne Knight say that, in his opinion, no one ought to be made a family trustee whose donation, or the donation of whose family, did not amount to 10,000/. in value. That was a mere matter of conversation. The trustees, to the best of my knowledge, have never contem- plated anything of that kind. 35. What is the principle upon which a trustee in the nature of a family, or hereditary trustee, is appointed ? — I conceive that the object in appointing them was, that the successors of the families should have an opportunity of seeing that the donation or bequest was disposed of or preserved in the way that the donor intended ; that it should be a sort of guarantee. When Mr. Cracherode left his library and rarities, to a very large amount, I believe to the value of 40,000 /., the trustees would have proposed the appointment of a family trustee, but as he left no male descendant, they, upon the vacancy which Mr. Cracherode's own death occasioned in the trust, elected his executor, the Bishop of Durham, (Dr. 479. B 2 Barrington) 4 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis. Barrington) a trustee, under the idea that he would see that the bequest was ——"""" properly disposed of. 18 May 1835. ^^ jt jg provided by the 47 Geo. iii. that the trustees of the British Museum may sell, exchange, or dispose of such duplicates of books, medals, coins or other things as may be in the collection ; is the same power given to them with respect to donations or bequests, without the consent of the family trustees ? — It is their rule not to sell or part with anything that has been bequeathed or given to them. 37. You do not mean to say that is not a rule with many exceptions? — I believe there is no exception to it now, because at the time that Lord Fitz- william gave his museum to the University of Cambridge, there was a report abroad that he had intended to give that collection to the Museum, but that the trustees, among duplicates, sold things which had been given to them. Partly in consequence of that report, and on consideration, it was thought improper to sell in future what had been given, and a determination was come to that nothing out what had been bought should be sold or parted with. 38. The Act of the 47 Geo. iii. enables the trustees of the British Museum to sell, exchange or dispose of such parts of the colliection as they should think proper ; has not that power been acted upon since that time ? — They have had one or two sales of books and coins, but I know the trustees gave special direc- tions that nothing should be sold that had been given or bequeathed. 39. Have not articles been exchanged ? — Nothing that has been given or bequeathed. 40. You mean since Lord Fitzwilliam's museum was given to the University of Cambridge ? — Yes. 41. "When was that? — It was in 1816. 42. Is the Committee to understand that nothing which has been bequeathed to the Museum has ever been disposed of under the authority of that Act of Parliament? — Not of late years. 43. Can you state what was the description of articles sold or disposed of under the authority of the Act of Parliament in former times ? — No, I cannot. Some of the officers of the departments may know, as far as their several depart- ments are concerned. 44. Do the family trustees ever attend meetings of the Board ? — Yes, very frequently. 45. How many of them? — Mr. Townley, when he is in town. Lord Cadogan, Mr. Tyndale, (Lord Dover formerly,) Lord Cawdor, and Mr. Knight, when he is in town. 46. Will you state how the elected trustees are elected ? — The Act of Parlia- ment, 26 Geo. II, by which the Museum was constituted, after naming the official and family trustees, provides, that they shall elect and nominate 15 other persons to be associated to them in the execution of the trust. The elected trustees in consequence have no votes at the elections of elected trustees, because the Act of Parliament gives the official and family trustees only the power of election. 47. By whom are the elected trustees recommended ? — I do not know ; the trustees settle that amongst themselves. 48. Is there any recognised qualification? — I believe not; the trustees make the selection. 49. What is the mode of election ? — Thefelection is usually held in the Robing- chamber of the House of Lords, because the Act directs, that two out of three of the Principal Trustees shall always be present, and, therefore, it is convenient to have the election at the House of Lords, because The Speaker of the House of Commons is within reach, as well as the Lord Chancellor. 50. Has it been the practice to select for the honour of a trusteeship those who have been distinguished by any great literary or scientific acquirements ? — I believe it has been usual. 51. Will you state whether, among the 15 elected trustees, there is at present any one who has published any work on science or literature of any distinction? — ^I cannot say. Lord Aberdeen has published an Inquiry into the Principles of Beauty in Grecian Architecture, and edited another work, but otherwise the trus- tees have not been authors. 52. Have they been men of science? — I think so. I was secretary for many years, and I had the highest opinion of the talents of every one I saw in the committee-room. 53- In SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 5 53. In fact, are any of them men of science ?^ — I cannot answer that question. &iv Henry Ellis. I have known them as trustees of the Museum, without knowing their studies. _— — — 54. Are they not generally men of high rank and wealth, and of great official ^^ ^^y '■^SS- occupation? — They are usually of high rank and wealth, and men whose very character forms a guarantee to the public that the Museum will be well admi- nistered. 55" Is not the purpose of having men of high rank and station already answered by having a list of official trustees? — ^The official trustees may be sup- posed to be very often engaged when the others can attend to us. 56. Do they or the greater part of the elected trustees attend the board regu- larly ? — A great many of them do. 57. Constantly? — Yes, many of the official trustees attend very constantly. 58. How often are the meetings of the board? — Once a month, unless extra- ordinary meetings or sub-committees are summoned. 59. What is the average number of trustees generally attending the board ? — I hardly know ; the secretary will be able to state that ; but I think I have known from nine to 16 attend frequently. The quorum is three for a committee, and seven for a general meeting. 60. What is the quorum for electing a trustee? — Seven, of which two out of the three principal trustees must form a part ; there is a special Act of Parliament for that. 61. By what Act of Parliament is that ? — 'The Act of the 27 George 11. " Be it enacted, that every such election of a trustee at which the said Archbishop of Canterbury, the Lord Chancellor or Lord Keeper, and The Speaker of the House of Commons, or any two of them, shall be present, shall be as effectual, to all intents and purposes whatsoever, as if the said Archbishop of Canterbury, the Lord Chancellor or Lord Keeper, and The Speaker of the House of Commons, were all of them present ; and that the acts and orders made by the major part of such number of the said trustees as shall be present at any such general meeting, so as seven of the said trustees at the least be thiere present, shall have the same and the like force and effect as if such acts and orders were made by the major part of the whole number of the said trustees." 62. Is there any official notice given on the election of trustees ? — All the elect- ing trustees are summoned to attend in the Robing-chamber of the House of Lords, which implies that it is for an election ; and they are also informed, that it is for the election of a trustee in the room of such a one deceased, or in the room of such a one resigned. 63. Is the summons confined to the electing trustees, or does it extend to the whole ? — No, only to the electing trustees ; the summons is not sent to the elected trustees. 64. Is there any discretionary power exercised in the selection of trustees for attendance at the ordinary meetings ? — None, I believe. 65. Everybody is summoned ? — At committee meetings the old practice used to be, when I was secretary (I was secretary for 13 years), that any one who had attended a committee during the preceding year was always summoned to every committee for the next year, but if he neglected to come for a whole year he was not summoned on a committee until he made his appearance again ; that was the old rule, but it may have been altered since ; that was a traditionary practice, and not a written regulation. 66. That was not an order of the trustees ? — No ; it had been the practice from the foundation of the Museum. 67. Is that the practice now? — I cannot say of myself. 68. Is the committee of trustees a standing committee ? — Yes. 6g, Then the general business of the Museum is conducted by a standing com- mittee of 15, appointed by a general meeting, and of such trustees as may from time to time signify to the secretary their willingness to attend ? — Yes. 70. What is the average number out of the 15 that generally attend the Board ? — I should think nine or ten. 71. Has it ever occurred that the business could not be conducted because the trustees were not present ? — Perhaps 20 years ago it might have so happened that towards the vacation only five trustees, upon occasion of a general meeting, might come, and then they always sent for other trustees, and tried to make up the meet- ing. I do not recollect any meeting of late years when the business was passed over from that cause. 479. B 3 72. What 6 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry EllU. 72. What is the quorum required at the general meeting for the appomtment of the standing committee ? — There is no annual appointment of the standing 18 May 1835. committee. 73. There is a standing committee so called, is there not ? — Yes ; but it consists of trustees who choose to come, and all who add themselves to the committee. 74. It is a committee, then, not of a fixed number, but depending upon the in- clination or activity of the trustees ? — It is an open committee. ^ 75. Is there not an annual visitation to the Museum by the trustees ? — \ es. 76. How often, and when does that take place ?— The general meeting in the second Saturday in May is the visitation. 77. What is the quorum necessary at that visitation ?— There is no quorum ; it is a general meeting ; on the breaking up of which, after the usual business has been transacted, the trustees go over the whole house ; sometimes they keep together, and sometimes they disperse and take different departments. They visit every part to see that all is in order. 78. Is the visitation ever made if there is not more than a certain number? — I never knew a failure in number. 79. What is done at that visitation ? — The officers of each department give an account of all the arrangements that have been made since the preceding visita- tion, and sta-te the labours which have been completed or are in progress. The catalogues, and so on, are laid out which have been made in the preceding year ; and the trustees visit the different departments, and have the opportunity of seeing that what is stated in the reports has been performed. 80. What time does it take upon an average ? — It may take an hour after the meeting is over, or less. 81. Then the visitation of the Museum occupies the trustees who attend about an hour each year ? — I cannot say that ; it may be more or less ; I have known it two hours ; thej'^ merely go through the collection ; it would be impossible to make any minute examination of the different departments. 82. On these occasions do they rely on the statements of the officers of the departments ? — Not entirely ; they make their inquiries from what has appeared in the reports, and so on. 83. Which reports proceed from the officers ? — Yes. Those reports first come to me, and if I see anything which may require observation, I make such remarks upon them as I think necessary, for the further information of the trustees. 84. Is there ever any other visitation held ? — There are several sub-committees, who occasionally come and examine the departments in a minuter manner. It has very frequently been the case when the trustees wished to make any material alteration in the departments ; for instance, in the print-room, Lord Farnborough, and till lately Mr. Bankes, and one or two other trustees (for the members of the sub-committees are rarely more than three or four in number to each), have come and directed the officer in his arrangements. 85. During the time you have held your office of principal librarian, do you remember any instances of these extraordinary visitations ? — Yes, frequently. 86. Can you state one or two instances, and the causes of them ? — I do not personally attend them, but the secretary can give the Committee dates and par- ticulars of such visitations. 87. Have the trustees the power, notwithstanding the statute of Mortmain and other statutes, to hold estates in land ? — Yes ; that was obtained during Lord Liverpool's administration. It was given to them so lately as the 5 Geo. IV. 88. To any amount ? — Yes ; to any value and amount whatever. 89. How soon after the vacancy happening by the death or resignation of any trustee is the trusteeship filled up ? — It depends upon the convenience of the electing trustees. It may be a week or 1 days, speaking at random, but I never recollect any long interval. 90. Do you imagine that without an Act of Parliament the trustees could extend their number upon any donation being granted to them ? — No, certainly not. 91. You stated that the presence of seven trustees is necessary ? — Yes at all general meetings. 92. You have been asked in substance what were the qualifications of a trustee of the British Museum, and looking at the list of the existing trustees, whether any of them may be distinguished as having written any literary or scientific work ; SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 7 work ; do you consider that such distinction is necessary for the discharge of the Sir Henry Ellis. duties of the Museum ? — By no means, — ■ - 93. Looking over that list, can you state to the Committee how many of the 18 May 1835. trustees have been employed in the highest offices of the Government of the country, how many have been employed in representing the King abroad, and of the remainder who are free, whether they are not, in the judgment of their fellow- men, likely to administer such trusts as are committed to them in the Museum with perfect judgment, impartiality, and efficiency ?— Most unquestionably; I see nine ■who have been cabinet ministers, I think three have been ambassadors abroad, besides Lord Farnborough, the Duke of Rutland, Lord Derby, and Sir Robert Inglis. I must say that for many years I was secretary at their board, and I never found, even among men of literature and science who had written books, so many men who displayed more judgment upon every difficult case which came before them respecting the Museum. 94. With reference to the list of elected trustees, is it within your knowledge that a majority of them are men of high literary cultivation and literary acquire- ment ?*— Certainly ; that is perfectly within my knowledge. 95. With reference to their acquirements and high literary cultivation, can you give the Committee any proof as a foundation for your opinion?-— My intimacy with many of the trustees ; for instance, I have known Lord Aberdeen for I believe 23 years, and I could mention other trustees of that character. 96. Are there any of the present trustees who are known to have published works as authors r-^Lord Aberdeen edited a valuable book, which I have already alluded to, on the Ecclesiastical Architecture of France, and I believe everybody who knows Lord Aberdeen knows his acquirements, and the very high cultivation of his mind. 97. Are they known to the public as eminent literary and scientific men ? — Yes ; Mr. Thomas Grenville, for instance. 98. Speaking generally ? — It is impossible to say. 99. Do you think they are a fair representation of the scientific and literary mind of this country, as chosen among the 6lite of the community ? — I think so. 1 00. Are they not men who within their class are looked upon as the principal patrons of art ? — Yes, 101. And as having taken a greater interest in literature than others of their class ? — Yes. 102. Has not Lord Aberdeen, among others, been partiaularly distinguished by his acquirements, which gained him the appellation of " Athenian Aberdeen" many years ago ? — Yes ; and he was a very young man at that time. 103. Would you think very highly of their judgtnent in any question of science or literature ? — Yes. 1 04. Upon any question of science, do you mean to say you would take the opinion of any one of the elected trustees as an opinion by which you would be guided ?— I have never had occasion to bring such matters of literature and science before them. 105. Therl upon what do you ground your knowledge of their literary and scientific attainments ? — From their general literary and scientific character as gen- tlemen and scholars. 106. Do you ground it upon notoriety or personal knowledge ? — Both. 107. What do you ground that notoriety upon; not upon their publications? —No. 108. In your personal intercourse with them, have you an opportunity of judging of their literary and scientific attainments? — Yes. log. In the Museum or in private? — Both in the Museum and in private. 110. Is it or is it not to be inferred from your previous examination that the trustees are elected on account of their high literary attainments and scientific knowledge ? — Not as professors, but as amateurs of science and literature. 111. Looking to the many great names that have adorned this country, and the richness of its scientific and literary knowledge, will you state who, among our most distinguished mathematicians, for instance, has been appointed a trustee of the British Museum ? — I do not recollect any name among the mathematicians, and I do not know that we want mathematicians. 112. Has any distinguished zoologist been elected a trustee? — Zoology is a science that has lately sprung up amongst us. 479. B4 113. Caii 8 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE ^\ i Henry Elli s. ^^^^ Can you state how many are members of the Royal Society?— 1 cannot g say how many. 1 ^ ay 1 35. ^^^ j^^ ^^^ ^j^.^j^ ^^^ ^^ ^^^ elected trustees are capable of forming an accu- rate knowledge of the value of a collection of mineralogy? — I do not think they are ; I doubt whether the trustees would attempt to value it themselves. 115. Is there any distinguished mineralogist or geologist among the trustees .'- — Both sciences have sprung up of late years. 116. Is there any distinguished poet or historian within your knowledge who has ever been elected a trustee, or do the records of the British Museum give a single instance of a poet or an historian who has been an elected trustee? — I do not consider such qualification is necessary ; I do not know of any such certainly at the present moment. 117. In general they are merely amateurs in science or in literature ?—• I do not wish to fix any particular meaning upon the word amateur but as being highly- conversant with science and literature. 118. In which of the trustees is the patronage of the Museum and the appoint- ment of officers vested? — The office of principal librarian is in the King^s gift, under the recommendation of the Three Principal Trustees. 119. Is it only vested in those three ? — In those three only j the whole patronage may be said to be substantially vested in them, as they recommend two persons to the King at the appointment of a principal librarian, and all the other offices are directly in their appointment, or in that of two out of the three. 1 20. In point of fact, none of the other trustees ever appear, in the appointment of officers r- — Unless by application for some person whom they wish to support j officially they have no power in the appointments. 121. Then virtually the three trustees you have named are complete managers of the Museum ? — Yes, so far as the appointment to offices in the Museum is concerned, not only virtually, but by Act of Parliament. 122. Are the trustees called upon themselves to decide nice scientific questions? —No. 123. They do not sit as a board to decide scientific questions.? — No; they call for advice whenever any such questions come before them. 124. What do they sit for? — To superintend the institution ; and no money can be expended without their order. 1 25. Was not the appointment of official trustees originally intended for that ; and are they not sufficient for that purpose ? — I should think not, because the official trustees would be likely, many of them, to be very much engaged. The notion I had formed myself was, that it was conceived the family trustees might be living in the country, and the official trustees might be engaged j and, there- fore, 15 elected trustees were directed to be added to the number, in order that there might be no deficiency in the performance of the duty. 126. Then they perform the double duty of superintending the institution and being scientific men ? — They are chosen for the general government of the Museum in the first instance. 1 27. And not for their exclusive knowledge of literature and science ? — Science was in an infant state in this country at the time the Museum was established ■ and the presiderits of the Royal Society and the College of Physicians, who are official trustees, were supposed to be two of the best-informed persons upon mat- ters of science. 128. Suppose a scientific collection were ofi'ered for sale to the trustees, what is the course they would adopt with reference to such purchase ? — First, they expect a party offering a collection to name his price; they never name the price ; they then do exactly what a Committee of the House of Commons would do ; they seek out for those who are best qualified to give opinions of its value and character. 129. Do they ever consult their own officers as to the value of collections ? — Frequently. ' 1 30. Do they always consult them ? — Usually. 131. In the case of the purchase of a valuable collection from Mr. Hawkins was the mineralogical curator consulted as to the value or the utility of that col- lection ? — I think he (Mr. Kbnig) was consulted ; but it might be before or after he was consulted that Dr. Buckland and Mr. Mantell were consulted. Before the purchase was completed, I am confident he went in to the trustees, for I was with him in the hall before he went in. 132. What SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 9 132. What did he say or do when he went in to the trustees ? — I do not know ; ^"* ^'^"'"J' ^^^^' I was not present. "" 133* Oo you imagine that Mr, Konig approved of that purchase? — I have no * - ^^y * 35- power to say that, for I was not in the room : that will appear upon the minutes of the trustees. I think Mr. Konig did approve of the purchase ; he went to see it. 134. All you can state of your own knowledge is that Mr. Konig went into the room where the trustees were for the purpose of giving an opinion? — Yes j I have no further personal knowledge of that transaction. ^35- Ts. it a ruje when collections are offered for sale to the trustees of the British Museum to consult the officers of the departments in which these collec-' tions may eventually be placed? — Yes; the offer usually comes through the report of the oflScers ; I may say, the greater part of the offers. 136. The officers of the British Museum thernselves bring such collections as may be offered for sale tinder the notice of the trustees ?: — Yes, unless a party writes specially, and then it goes through the hands of the secretary. 137. Can you tell then who brought Mr. Hawkins's fossil remains under the con- sideration of the trustees? — No, I cannot of my own knowledge; the usual practice is to make the offer through the officer of the particular department, and then the trustees consult him ; but the officers, I believe, are generally reluctant, when anything comes to a high value, to give their opinion ; they would rather that the trustees should go abroad, and obtain what they consider the best opinions. 138. Is the ofiBce of elected trustee considered one of distinction? — It has always been considered, in the literary and scientific world, as the blue ribbon of literature. 1 39. By whom was that designation attached to it ?^ — I do not know. 140. Do you think so high a distinction should be exclusively conferred upon men who are amateurs in science arid literature rather than the real workers in the fields of literature and of science? — That is a mere matter of opinion; but I con- fess that I prefer such appointments to those of men of science, generally speaking. i 141. In preference to men like Bradley, Dollond, Priestley, Cavendish, Maskelyne, Rumford, Watt, WoUaston, Young, Davy or Cheuevix ? — Sir Humphrey Davy and Dr. Wollaston were both trustees as presidents of the Royal Society. / 142. The question refers to elected trustees, and having stated that an elected trustee receives an honour, described by you to be the blue ribbon of literature, do you think that those who have been elected trustees are men who ought to be preferred for such an honour before those whose names have been stated, or, amongst those now living, to Daltoii, Ivory, Brown, Hatchett, Pond, Herschell, Babbage, Henry, Barlow, South, Farraday, Murdoch, and Christie ? — 1 do not see what benefit the Museum could derive from the science of the parties you have named. 143. Do you think that is a suflUcient answer to" the question ?~I think it is ; I do not see what advantage the Museum could gain as an institution from the science of those men. 144. Having stated that it is a high literary and scientific distinction to be elected a trustee of the British Museum, you prefer men who are amateurs in science or literature to the men whose names have been mentioned ? — I am looking to the benefit to be derived to the Museum ; and I do not see any advantage that their science would afford to our institution. 145. Then science and literature are not the essential conditions of being a good trustee ? — To a certain extent ; but I should conceive that science and Hterature would be possessed by a well-educated gentleman in sufficient quantity to make him a good trustee of the Museum. Scientific men would not always be the best persons for such an appointment. 146. Confining your answer to elected trust,ees, who enjoy an honour, by your admission, described as the blue ribbon of literature and science, in that point of view, do yQu think that honour has been bestowed most advantageously for science and literature ? — I look to the benefit of the Museum, not to the general benefit of science. 147' Then upon what principle do you call it the blue ribbon of literature and science ?■ — I stated it had been looked up to as that sort of distinction by literary and scientific men. 479. c 148. Will 10 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE S ir Henry mi s. 148. Will they look up to it as that sort of distinction when they have no hopes 8 M 8 ^^ attaining it ? — Many no doubt have aspired to it who have not attained it. 1 i ay 1835. i^g jjq^ j^^jjy. ^g^ ^f- ^[^g^j. character have succeeded ?— I am not able to state that ; I do not know who the applicants have been. . 150. But among living philosophers, if it was an honour looked at, and aspired to by them, might it not be sometimes attained ? — I never heard of any instance of philosophers who have wished to attain that honour, and I have known many intimately. 151. They have never aspired to it ? — No, I believe not. 152. The list which has been read of eminent men who have not been trustees begins with the name of Bradley ; was Bradley alive at the time of the institution of the Museum ? — I think he was. 153. That list also contains the name of Cavendish ; was not Mr, Cavendish an elected trustee? — Yes, he was. 154. It also contains the name of Brown ; assuming that to be Robert Browti, the pre-eminent botanist, are not his services already secured to the Museum by his appointment to the keepership of the Banksian collection ? — Certainly. 155. In regard to the qualification of trustees of the British Museum, can you state to the Committee what was the standard adopted at its first institution ; in other ^vofds, were the trustees appointed in 1753 selected for their great eminence in science and literature, or for their general taste in literature and science, which you have described as the qualification of the existing trusteeships ? — I have un- derstood from tradition that Sir Hans Sloane before his death named certain persons who he wished should be trustees of his collection. It was understood that Government would purchase his collection, and he wished such persons to be named trustees. 1 56. Of what class were those persons ? — They were of the higher class ; I think Mr., afterwards Sir William, Watson, who was a brother physician, was one of them. 157. Do you think that precedent authorizes the electing of trustees on account of their high rank and their amateurships, rather than their legal and scientific knowledge ? — The trustees in this list are all men of high attainments ; the Hon. Philip Yorke, Sir John Evelyn, Dr. Birch, Dr. Ward and two or three others, not elected from their high rank merely. 158. Then originally they were scientific men? — There appears to have been two or three such ; no more. 1 59. It has not been the practice ab initio to select mere amateurs ? — The word " amateur " was one that presented itself to me at the moment ; I did not mean to imply by that men flippantly acquainted with knowledge, but that they were not professional ; I meant men who were as highly educa,ted as professional men, but who had not gone so deep into the study of literature or science. I may mentit)n Gustavus Brander, as a man acquainted with natural science, and the Earl of Bute, who mixed science with rank. 160. As you are no doubt familiarly acquainted with the past history as well as the present circumstances of the institution, will you give the Committee a list of the eminent poets, critics or historians who have at any time formed part of the elected trustees? — I have already mentioned Gustavus Brander. Mr. AKhur Onslow, who was Speaker of the House of Commons ; he left us a most valuable collection of Bibles. 161. Was he an official trustee ? — He was an elected trustee first, and after- wards an official trustee when he became Speaker of the House of Commons. 162. Would you call him a distinguished literary or scientific person? He left us a very curious collection of English Bibles. Gustavus Brander was a gentleman and a man of science, and Lord Bute was a great patron of science. There is also James Harris, the author of " Hermes ;" and Daniel Wray was a man of considerable literature in his day; Charles Littleton, Bishop of Carlisle; Matthew Duane, who left us a collection of coins ; Sir Richard Kay, Dean of Lincoln • he was a collector of topography ; he bequeathed his collection of topographical drawings to us. Sir William Hamilton was also a man of science ; but I conceive it never entered into the contemplation of the trustees to select poets and his- torians. 163. What eminent men, distinguished by their woi'ks on literature or science and not by their patronage or collections, have been elected trustees? I cannot find any such person. 164. Judging SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 1 1 164. Judging from your knowledge of the past history of the institution, was Sir Henry Ellis. it more the custom formerly to elect men celebrated for their literary or scientific works than it has been recently ? — ^No, certainly not. 18 May 1835. 165. Then will you name, at present, any men distinguished for their works ? — I certainly know of none in the present list of elected trustees distinguished for their scientific or literary productions except Lord Aberdeen. 166. Should you not be of opinion, judging from the tradition that you spoke of, that formerly the trustees were selected as men of eminence, but by no means as men of eminence in their profession ? — Certainly not. 167. What were the trustees named by Sir Hans Sloane? — I believe his par- ticular friends, and men qualified to be trustees, without being, strictly speaking, persons of science. 168. Were they not scientific men, and did they not publish works } Did not Dr. Birch, for instance ? — Dr. Birch published a great deal of biography and his- tory ; and there was Dr. Ward, whose Greek Grammar is still used at Westminster. i6g. Did not Mr. Cavendish also? — Yes; Mr. Cavendish's works were, I believe, all published in the Philosophical Transactions. 170. I think you stated some time ago that it had not been lately the practice to exchange duplicates, or dispose of them ; were not several exchanged very lately with the Royal Society ? — Duplicate books ; but they were under the new rules. 171. You have stated that, with respect to the purchase of particular collec- tions, the trustees are in the habit of consulting either the afficer of the depart- ment to which such purchases woiild apply, or other competent authorities, upon the subject ; does that answer appjy to the purchase of the larger collections which have been added to the Museum during the last 30 years ? — It applies to pur- chases under a certain sum ; probably under 1 ,200 /. When the trustees go to Parliament for a large purchase, the Parliament usually refers it to a Committee of the House of Commons ; and they seek for sach evidence of its value as they can procure. 172. Will you state to the Committee the circumstances under which the larger collections added to the Museum within the last 30 years have been so added; whether by the judgment of the trustees for the time being, or on the authority of Committees of the House of Commons, specially appointed for the purpose ? — The larger purchases for the Museum have been usually effected by a petition of the trustees to the House of Commons recommending the pur- chase ; and the House of Commons, after having appointed a Committee, who take evidence as to the value or character of the thing offered for sale, have come to a vote by which it was purchased. The trustees have rarely bought any thing above 1,200 1, or 1,500 /. value at any time from their own funds. J 73- Will you state to the Committee the titles of the respective collections added under the authority of votes of the House of Commons ? — The Hamilton collection, the Townley collection, the Lansdowne collection of manuscripts, the Greville collection of minerals, the Hargrave library, an addition to the Townley collection, the Elgin marbles and Dr. Burney's library. 174. Was Mr. Hawkins's collection bought by a vote of the House of Com- mons ? — No, by the trustees. 175. Were you examined before a Committee of the House of Commons with reference to the purchase of any one of these collections ? — In reference to the purchase of the Burney library. 1 76. There is another collection to which your attention has not been called, but whioh was in like manner purchased under a vote of the House of Commons — the Rich collection ? — Yes, it was. 177. Are you aware whether a Committee of the House of Commons, sat on that collection?— Yes. I attended them at the house in which Mr. Rich's collec- tion was at that time placed, in Essex -street in the Strand. The Burney collec- tion I likewise attended them upon. }7(8. jAre you aw-are .whether in forming that estimate ,of the value w;hich they subsequently BecQinmended in the report to Parliament, they did or did not take the testirn;Oiaiy or judgment of persons who were in the opinion of the world con- sidered jEpsBpetent to assist them ? — Certainly. In order to affix a price to the Ori^Dital' manuscripts of 4be Rich collection they examined Mr. Colebrooke, Dr. (Nicol, Colonel Baillie, Sir Gore Ousley, Sir John Malcolm, and Sir Har- ford Jones Brydges ; with regard to the Syriac manuscripts they had the 479, c 2 * evidence 12 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE ^\t Henry Ellis, evidence of Professor Lee, of Cambridge; upon the Babylonian antiquities they took that of Mr. Landseer, who had written upon the subject of the ancient 18 May i«35. cylinders ; and Mr. Marsden, Sir Charles Wilkins, and Mr. Matthew Young were consulted upon the value of the Oriental coins of the collection. 179. From your experience of what passed before Committees of the House of Commons, do you understand that they did that which the trustees of the Museum endeavoured to do upon a smaller scale, by referring for evidence of the value of the articles to the judgment of those persons who were competent to form an opinion ?— Certainly ; I never knew them to deviate from that, 180. When a petition is presented for the purchase of a collection, who amongst the officers of the British Museum is requested by the. trustees to give an opinion as to the value of the collection and- the expediency of its purchase, pre- vious to the petition being presented to the House of Commons ? — It would depend on the department in which the purchase is to be made. For instance, the keeper of the manuscripts would be consulted on the subject of manuscripts ; the keeper of the printed books, in the purchase of a printed library; Mr. Konig, on the subject of natural history, and Mr. Hawkins with regard to antiquities. 181. Did the trustees themselves take upon themselves in any case to present a petition to Parliament for the purchase of a collection without first consulting their own officers? — Never, I believe. Of course it is a matter for consultation before the petition is drawn up. I drew up the petition for the Burney, collection in The Speaker's study, by direction. There was a sub-committee of trustees appointed to prepare it. 182. Is there any evidence taken by the trustees previously to presenting a petition ? — They obtain evidence as to the character and probable value of what is offered ; they satisfy themselves before they draw up a petition that the col- lection it relates to is desirable ; and they then leave the House of Commons to ascertain the actual value in their Committee, by examining competent evidence. 1 83. You have already referred to JVlr. Rich's collection ; who were the parties consulted by the trustees as to that purchase ? — I was. I was then at the head of the manuscript department. 1 84. Were you the only person consulted ? — There was my colleague, Mr. For- shall, at that time, and we ascertained from various quarters the value and riarity of the manuscripts which formed that collection. 1 85. Will you inform the Committee in what quarter you made those in- quiries, and upon what authority you recommended that purchase to the trustees ? —It is so long ago that I hardly know how to state that. We ascertained, in the first place, that the Syriac manuscripts were of very great rarity and value. 186. From whom did you ascertain that? — I think Professor Lee, of Cam- bridge, was one of the persons examined by the House of Commons. 187. The question applies to the previous examination? — I consulted both Professor Lee and Dr. Nicol, the latter of whom succeeded the Archbishop of Cashel as one* of the Oriental professors at Oxford. Dr. Mac Bride was also consulted. 188. Did they examine the manuscripts themselves? — They did. 189. What was the foundation of their opinion in favour of the purchase? I do not recollect. Professor Lee attended every day almost of the Committee's examination, and I believe he is considered the first Syriac scholar we have in this country. With respect to Bruce's manuscripts, upon a previous occasion I was instructed by the trustees to consult the Archbishop of Cashel and Pro fessor Lee by letter. Finally, we declined purchasing Bruce's manuscripts 1 go. Then the trustees decide upon this previous stage for themselves?— Yes, whether they shall or shall not go to Parliament. 191. They take the opinion of eminent men ?— Yes, as to the intrinsic merit of the collection. ucin, ui 192. As the trustees then, before they make any great purchase take the opinion of eminent literary or scientific men, does not that furnish an additional reason why some such eminent men should be found among the number of th trustees?— When the occasion comes, they go to the men best qualified to give advice at the moment, which is always better than having merely one eene 1 adviser upon such occasions. That is a matter of opinion, but I think it is b ft 193. Would there not be considerable jealousy among literary or scientifi men in the particular departments, if their department was represented a n'- the trustees by only one or two persons of their own class? — Certainly "° ^ 194. The.r SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 13 194. They having, by that means, more the ear of the trustees than other men sir Henry Ellis. of the same profession? — I should think that would be very likely. — ■ — 195. Would the trustees be more restricted from taking other eminent opinions 18 Ma^/ 1835^ because there were a few literary and scientific men among them ? — No, I should think not. 196. Would there not be a suspicion in the minds of literary and scicEtific men in general that the opinion of those members of the board would have more authority with the trustees than the extrinsic or extra-judicial opinions which might be obtained elsewhere? — I have no doubt there would be a suspicion of that sort among literary and scientific men. 197. Would there not be a jealousy on the part of those literary and scientific men who had not a seat among the trustees that the opinions of those who had^ seats would have a greater influence with the decisions of the board than they ought to have? — I think it is very likely. 198. Should you be led to co'mclude that from the feuds that have arisen in other societies? — Yes. ' ■ 199. Do you conceive that eminent writers in the several departments of science, who have themselves advanced the bounds of knowledge, are men of system, and wedded to particular theories, and unfit on that account, from their mutual jealousies, to undertake the care of any institution of this nature? — So much depends upon the frame of the man's mind and constitution, that I doubt whether I am capable of giving a satisfactory general answer to that, 200. Are they not more anxious to establish their particular views than to forward the cause of general science ? — Generally speaking, probably they are. 201. Among the persons who have given collections to the Museum, do you find there are any historians, -poets or great writers? — No, certainly not,' after the mention of Dr. Birch, who gave a collection. 1 do not think we have any collection left us by any historian or great writer. 202. Are they not persons generally of the same qualifications as those who constitute the elected trustees of the present day ?- — Yes. 203. Was not Dr. Burniey a distinguished author? did he not leave his library to the Museum? — Dr. Burney's library was purchased by Parliament. He was not an extensive author. He wrote some most valuable reviews of books ; and he .made immense grammatical and other classical collections, especially regarding the Greek metres, but he made them as if he intended to live for 200 years. He completed less than might have been expected. 204. Was not Mr. Rich, whose manuscripts were bought, a literary man also? — .Mr. Rich published two memoirs upon Babylon. 205. The whole of Rich's collection was purchased, not given? — Yes, 206. In the case of collections bequeathed to the Museum, they have generally been bequeathed by persons of great fortune'? — Usually. 207. It is rarelv in the power of an author by profession, however distinguished he may be, to give his collection to the nation ? — No, 208. For instance, in a contribution to a national gallery, you would not expect an artist to contribute his paintings? — No; except in the case of Sir George Beaumont, who was an artist as well as a man of fortune. 209. In the case of Sir John Soane, he, perhaps, will bequeath a valuable collection to the Museum ? — Yes, . 210. But with reference to bestowing works of value upon the Museum, that of itself does not constitute any ground for the selection of trustees, does it ? — I never knew it enter into the view of the trustees. , ; - 211. When the trustees have made a reference to scientific men with respect to the purchase of scientific collections, have they always acted according to the opittipns of those scientific men, or have they acteid upon an opinion of their own? — I believe they have always acted upon the opinions they have taken, because until they have made, up ijieif minds whether the collection would be desirable fo,r the Museum, they have never consulted the parties. J212. When they have cojisulted the parties, have they always acted according to th.qir advice ? — Yes, always, to the best of my recollection, ' ,413, Supposing the principle to be laid down, tliat scientific men were to be elected trustees, unless it were generally acted upon, can you see any possibility oi" avpiding the jealousy that would arise from the exclusion of ^hose who cqpsider i^hjeniselves qu&lified?— I think it is very likely that jealousy would be introduced,, 479- , c 3 14 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Jovis, 9,V die Mali, 1835. Sir Henry Ellis, called in ; and further Examined. Sir Henrv Elf ^^^' ^^ y°^ '^"^^ ^"*^ *^^° y°" ^^^*^ ^° *^® Committee in what manner any ___J___"' of the great museums or libraries on the Continent are conducted ; whether by ai May 1835. ^^^ minister of the interior, or whether by a board of Trustees a.s in the case of the British Museum, or whether by a board of Savans, men of science or of lite- rature ; and if by the minister of the interior, whether it be consistent with your knowledge that such minister of the interior is selected, with reference to his qualifications as a man of science to preside over the concerns of such museum or such library ?^In answer to this question, I have to say, that I believe the collec-, tions in the Hotel de Richelieu at Paris, I mean the library of printed books, the library of manuscripts, the collection of prints, and the department of coins and medals, are regulated by a board formed by the conservators of those several departments, the chief conservator of each department taking his turn to be pre- sident or director, each for the term of five years. All matters agreed upon at the board are referred to the minister for public instruction, and receive his con- firmation. The officers of the institution of the Jardin des Plantes form a similar board,, and are likewise under the superintendence of the minister for public instruction. It is to be observed, that the office of minister for public instruction is some- times discontinued. The superintendence of the boards already mentioned then reverts to the minister of the interior, under whom, in the time of the Emperor Napoleon, when there was no minister for public instruction, these institutions were placed. The museum of the Louvre is rather, differently constituted. The Count de Forbin is its director, and he is also the keeper of the pictures. The Count de. Clarac is the conservator of the sculpture gallery only. These gentlemen, I am informed, refer to the ministre du Maison du Roi. The Vatican Library is under the superintendence and direction of one of the cardinals, I believe the pope's secretary of state. There is another institution, however, on the Continent, the formation of the trust of which is not unsimilar to that of the British Museum. I allude to the Ambrosian Library at Milan. It was founded by Cardinal Frederick Borromeo and besides a collection of books and manuscripts, it contains pictures, statues and a cabinet of medals ; it is governed by a board of trustees or curators, or by whatever name they may be called, consisting partly of the noblesse of the state. The chairman is hereditary, and always a Borromeo. This is the only institution upon the Continent, as far as I am aware, the trust of which in part resembles that of the British Museum. 215. In the other institutions on the Continent, so far as you are acquainted with them, the management is under the superintendence of the minister of the interior, or some other public functionary appointed by the ruling power of the state ? — I believe so. 216. Are you aware of the circumstances under which the Imperial Library at Vienna is administered ?— lam not well informed upon that subject, but I beUeve it is under an officer called the prefect of that institution. 217. Are you aware of the circumstances under which the Hoyal Library at Munich is governed ? — I am not. •' ' 218. Are you aware of the functions filled at one time by the Baron Denon and since by the Count de Forbin at Paris ? — I believe I am. Baron Denon, in the time of the emperor of the French, was directorrgeneral of the museums. He had under his immediate control the Napoleon Museum, the Museum of French Monuments the SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 15 the collection at Versailles, the galleries in the palaces belonging to the govern- Sir Henry Ellis. ment, the superintendence of the striking of medals, some other superintendences, and authority in the acquisition of works of art. After 1815 he ceased to be ^* ^*y *®35« director. The Count de Forbin succeeded M. Denon in all the departments which have been just described, except the superintendence of the striking of medals. He is still the director of the Royal Museums. 219. Are you aware whether the Baron Denon was pre-eminent in the different departments confided to his care, and whether the Count de Forbin his successor be so?— Baron Denon was unquestionably pre-eminent in science.. He was one of the savans who went with Buonaparte to Egypt; was chosen for his taste and knowledge in antiquities. Count de Forbin is of one of the most ancient and noble families in France, and he is also a man of science. 220. When you say that the Baron Denon was pre-eminent in science, can you inform the Committee in what department of science the Baron Denon was so pre-eminent? — In his general deep knowledge of antiquities ; as a man of universal taste on the subject of antiquity. 221. The question had reference not to the subject of antiquity or of universal taste, but to direct knowledge of matters which are usually classed under the term of science ? — His great capability of designing the reverses of medals was one of the strongest features of his literary character. He designed the greater number of the Napoleon medals. 222. Do you think that Baron Denon was selected on account of his rank or of his science ?- He was a man of high intellectual culture and scientific pursuits. 223. Are you aware under what circumstances the original nomination of Trustees to the British Museum took place? that is to say, referring to your answer on your previous examination, that certain trustees were, according to the tradition prevalent in the Museum, named by Sir Hans Sloane himself; can you, upon re-consideration, point out to the Committee, looking at the list of such original trustees, the names of those to whom in that answer you referred 1 — I know that Mr., afterwards Sir William Watson, was one ; and two or three others were formerly named to me. 224. Were they selected from the list of theii" fellow-subjects for their pre- eminence in history, in poetry or in general science, or were they selected as being personal friends of Sir Hans Sloane, in whom he had confidence, as being persons likely well to administer the trusts that might be confided to them ? In the answer that you will give, the Committee of course request you to speak so far only as from that tradition to which you have referred as the source of your knowledge, you are able to depose ? — I understood from Mr. Plantaj my prede- cessor, The was my authority,) that there were several persons, and he spoke of them as friends of Sir Hans Sloane ; at the same time it was likely that those friends of Sir Hans Sloane would be either scientific men or patrons of science ; and in the case of Mr., afterwards Sir WiHiam Watson, he was a man so eminenit for his knowledge of plants that he went at that time by ihe name of the living lexicon of botany. There might, therefore, be an additional reason fox the choice of him, beside his friendship with Sir Hans Sloane. 225. Sir Hans Sloane, being himself eminent, as he was in different depart- ments, more particularly with respect to natural history? — Yes, and being a very extensive collector of plants. 226. Among the original members of the Board of Trustees appQiated in respect of the offices they hold, the Committee do not see certain offices, the holders of which are now considered ex-officio members of the Board of Trustees:; will you state to the Committee at what time and under what circumstances the president of the Royal Academy and the president of the Society of Antiquaries were respectively added to those who should be ex-officio trustees of the JBritish Museum, the Committee being aware that one of those institutiens did jiat exiist, and the other had been but just founded at the time when the Museuira itself was instituted ? — To the best of my recollection it was in 1 823 that Sir George Beau- mont presented to the British Museum his collection of pictuues, ;the foundation of the present National Gallery. • At that time the trustees thought it was fitthatt . some person should be joined with them in their trust who was conversant with pictures, and they determined to apply to Parliament to make the presi^at of the Royal Academy an official trustee. The moment they were going to Parlia- ment for that purpose, they considered .that they 'had two very large collections 479. c 4 of i6 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Htnry Ellis, of sculpture and antique marbles, the Townley and Elgin collections m their trust, and they thought they would at the same time propose as a perpetual 21 May 1835. trustee the president of the Society of Antiquaries. r 1 i v 227. In reference'to the collection of the Townley and Elgin marbles ?— Yes; in the preamble of the Act of the 5 Geo. IV., the same Act by which they were empowered to hold lands, you will, I thini<, find that reason assigned tor their application. . , • -c • f-f 228. You stated that the curators -of the several literary and scientific institu- tions of Paris formed boards for the management of those institutions ?— 1 did. 229. Can you state the names of any of those curators "o^^* V?^^. "f^'^ °* their respective institutions ?— The establishment of officers at the Bibliotheque Royale consists of M. Letronne, director. In the department of Printed books, M. Van Praet, M. Magnin, M. Ballin, M. Dubeux. In the department ot Manuscripts and Ancient Charters, the Baron Silvestre de Sacy, M. Champollion- Figeac, M. Hase, M. Reinaud, M. Fauriel. In the department of medals, M. Raoul-Rochette, M. Letronne, M; Mionnet, M. Lenormand. In the depart- ment of Prints and Geographical Plans, M. Thevenin, M. Jomard, and M. Duchesne atne. 230. The Baron Cuvier, I believe, was at the head of the Jardin des Plantes? — He was himself for some time also the minister for public instruction. 231. Will you inform the Committee whether these individuals were distin- guished for their knowledge of science and of literature, and on that account placed at the head of their respective departments ? — I take it for granted that they were selected as men of science, and of pre-eminent science, but previous to their coming to the head of their respective departments, my information is scanty as to the publicity of their characters for science. 232. Was not Cuvier the most distinguished naturalist long before he was appointed at the head of the Jardin des Plantes?— Yes • and M. Jomard was one of the savans who went with Buonaparte to Egypt. 233. Which was previous to their being placed at the head of their depart- ments ?■ — Yes. 234. Then, in point of fact, the management and the control of these learned associations are immediately under the direction of men of science and of litef^- ture? — Yes; responsible to the minister of the interior, of the minister of public instruction, or as the case may be. 235. But the internal managemeat of each respective institution is, in poirit of fact, in the hands of either the individual who is at the head of that department or of the board? — The general regulation of each department is, I conclude, settled by the board; but the management of the interior of each left to the person who is at the head of it. 236. It has not been found that such management, though in the hands of philosophers and literary men, is at all inconvenient or disadvantageous to the public? — It requires more knowledge than I possess to give a full and satisfactoi-y answer to that question. 237. Do you imagine that any inconvenience would arise if some such similar board were instituted for the management of the British Museum ; -suppose it were divided into departments, and at the head of each department a curator were appointed, distinguished for his literary or scientificknowledge, as the case might be do you think that any inconvenience would arise to the public from such board so constituted, for the care, management and control of the British Museum ? I think that would depend very much upon the access that might be had to the minister of the Home Department, supposing the supreme control to be vested in him, and to the attention that he might or might not pay to an institution so constituted. 1 238. Supposing the same relation to exist between these learned individuals and the Secretary of State for the Home Department as exists between the board of curators and the minister for public instruction in Paris, do you think any inconvenience would arise to the public, and will you state what that incon- venience would be? — It ig impossible for me to say, for it would require a previous minute acquaintance with what actually passes at the institutions in Paris, and I am ignorant at present. 239. But under this government the, institutions in Paris enjoy a hio-h reputa- tion in every respect, and particularly the Jardin des Plantes is one ol" the best managed, and possesses one of the most comprehensive and valuable collections in SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 17 in natural history in Europe, does it not ? — Yes, I believe it is ; but we have no Sir Henry Ellis. garden of that kind. 240. But you have a zoological collection in the British Museum? — Not a live 21 May 1835. one ; it consists of stuffed animals only. 241. Would you venture to make any the least comparison between either the collection or its scientific arrangement, such as it now is, in the British Museum, and that of the Jardin des Plantes, comparing the respective departments of the Jardin des Plantes with the corresponding departments of the British Museum ?— We have no subjects, generally speaking, of a similar kind to those preserved in the Jardin des Plantes. We have no separate library of natural history, no menagerie, no botanic garden. 242. Have you no collection illustrative of comparative anatomy? — We have a a few skeletons of animals, but I should think the whole would not cover much space. We have the skeleton of an elephant certainly, but nothing that can be brought into comparison with the Jardin des Plantes. 243. Have you not specimens of various animals preserved in spirits at the British Museum ? — We may have a few. 244. Do you think that the collection in the British Museum, imperfect as you now admit it to be, would continue to be imperfect, provided it were headed by the most distinguished zoologists of the day? — I hardly know how to answer that question, for this reason, that natural history divides itself into so many branches, that in choosing a scientic keeper to be placed at the head of the whole collection, if you choose a botanist, he may neglect zoology and give a preference to botany; if you choose a mineralogist, he may take the greatest delight in his department, and leave the zoology to fall to pieces. It is unfortunate for the department of natural history that its divisions are so very different in their nature from each other. 245. With respect to the constitution of the Museum, can you suggest any improvement or alteration to the Committee ? — I cannot, as far as relates to the administration of it. 1 believe it to be as faithfully administered and as per- fectly administered as such an institution can allow. The trustees are infinitely more attentive to it than the world supposes. You will find that the monthly reports of the officers to them are well considered before they are given in ; they are examined and certified, as to the services performed, by myself, and I make a report also upon them ; so that the trustees have every unsophisticated information they can wish for prepared against their meetings. 246. Are you aware of the different ordonnances of the kings of France or the actual king of the French, or during the empire of the Republic, by which the different libraries and institutions of France have been administered ; and can you lay before the Committee any document by which that information can be conveyed to them ? — I am not in possession of any ordorinance, or any other paper relating to the condition of the Paris library at a former day ; but, on a report being brought to me a year ago that the Paris library was to be opened in an evening, I said to the gentleman who mentioned this to me, " I am quite an unbeliever; I am quite incredulous upon that subject, because I am convinced that the curators of the Paris library never would think of opening it on an evening ;" and I immediately vyrote to M. Van Praet to have the goodness to send me the latest ordonnance which directed the management of the library. He sent me the very last, of the year 1832, containing the most minute regulations, signed, I believe, at the end by M.,Guizot, the minister of public instruction, and I was very much gratified to find that our own system was infinitely superior to that of the ordonnance as to the management of the library, its hours, and its numerous accommodations. 247. Will you lay before the Committee a copy of that ordonnance ? — I will : —{See Appendix, No. 13.)— and if the Committee will allow me, I will state im- mediately a few instances of difference between the facilities of the Paris library and ours. The regulations of the Paris library, as they at present stand, are enforced under this ordonnance of King Louis Philippe, dated Paris, 14 Novem- ber 1 832. The library is open every day from ten to three, except on Sundays apd festivals ; the library of the British Museum is open everyday, except on Sundays, from ten to four; and Good Friday, Ash Wednesday, and the 30th January are the only single days upon which it is shut. 248. Can you state to the Committee what number of days are included under the name of festivals in that part of the ordonnance of the king of the French to which you refer? — I believe they are very numerous. • 479. D 249. But i8 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Etlis. 249. But you cannot state how many ?— No. For the visitation of the Paris library and other requisite purposes, two vaca- 21 May 1835. tiong ^re allowed in the year ; 15 days at Easter, and from the 1st September to the 15th October inclusive; at these times no readers are admitted. The only times when the British Museum library is closed, are the Easter, Whitsun, and Christmas weeks. Our library is kept open for the readers during all the summer vacation. In the Paris library no books are given out to readers for half an hour before the library closes ; at the British Museum we have no restriction up to the last moment. It is one of the rules in the Paris library for one book only to be given to a reader at a time ; the keepers are to be the judges for any cases of exception. A gentleman, whom I mean to produce to the Committee to examine, assures me he can state that lately in the Paris library he was obliged to bribe one of the attendants to bring him a second volume of a work, he havmg had the first, and the subsequent volume which he wanted having been refused him. At the British Museum no exception is at any time made to a reader having as many books or manuscripts as he may wish ; 20 or 30 would not be objected to, and the chief attendant of the room gives me the assurance that a larger number has been occasionally given out at a time. In the Paris library romances, detached plays, light and frivolous literature, and political pamphlets are not sent to the readers in the Salle de Lecture, except by especial favour from the conservators, for purposes of historical or particular research, and to whom the readers must declare the precise objects for which such articles are wanted. That regulation shows the distinction which is very properly made at Paris between a public and what we call a circulating library. A public library is a place of consultation and reference; it ought not to be a receptacle for mere idle readers. A few months ago one of our readers sent, in a sweep, for all the annuals and all the keepsakes of 1834, and all were sent to him which we then possessed ; we did not conceive our- selves to have a right even to remonstrate ; no regulations restricting the party from making such a demand. The notes of receipt which the readers give for books may not make^the number of novels brought to the reading" room appear as great as it really is, because while the man of research requires many bookis for his purpose, the novel-reader probably passes his morning in reading one : the number used, however, must be considerable. The chief attendant of the Museum reading-room can give the most certain information of what class our novel-readers consist. Literary and scientific journals are not allowed to be read at Paris until they are bound in volumes. 250. Is that the case at the British Museum ? — We endeavour to make it so as much as we can ; because, when in numbers, such publications soon get torn to pieces. No manuscript can be consulted at Paris except in the place of its deposit, and that is in a separate portion of the Hotel de Richelieu from the printed library. With us printed books and manuscripts are brought into the same reading room to the same person, and without restriction as to number. The general oppor- tunity of collating a book with a manuscript is prevented at Paris. There arp various minor details contained in the ordonnance of 1832, besides the regulations here mentioned ; some of them concern a lending system • parti- cular persons, who are known, are permitted to borrow both books and manuscripts from the Paris library ; but this system would never be useful for adoption at the British Museum. We can show at least one manuscript in our collection which certainly came over, and I suppose was borrowed from Paris, but never found its proper home again. It has upon a blank leaf, the inscription " Biblioth^que du Roi, Rue Richelieu, Paris." We have certainly one manuscript, if not more which belonged to the Escurial. By one article of the ordonnance, it appears that the manuscripts of the Royal Library, being the property of the State no person can copy, publish or print any manuscript without having obtained express authorization from the Government. The conservators, however, can allow extracts to be made. In the British Museum there is no restriction from copving- publishing, or printing, provided an intimation is given to the trustees. Any one without leave may take extracts, but he cannot copy an entire manuscript without previously representing that he wishes to do so to the trustees, who never refuse The reason -for desiring that the person should make such request* to the trustees is not witb h view that any one should be prevented, but it sometimes happens that one reader has made an application to the trustees to transcribe a manuscript, and SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 19 and they think it not right that a second person should have the same privilege gjr Henry Ellis. until the first has completed his transcript. The Medals are only open for special research in Paris in the presence of the 21 May 1835. keeper. Application to examine them must be made to the keeper over-night, and one tray of coins is only shown at a time. At the Museum, unless some reason exists against it, no person is delayed immediate access to the coins, if he comes properly recommended : these are, I believe, the most material points of comparison between the two institutions. 251. Can you state to the Committee any of the points of difference between tTie sculpture gallery at the Louvre, and the gallery of antiquities at the British Museum ? — ^The galleries of painting and sculpture at the Louvre are open to the French public on Sundays only, from ten till four o'clock. The first four days of the week, Monday excepted, are devoted in those galleries to the artists. Foreigners, on producing their passports, are admitted on the same days and at the same hours which are set apart for the artists, in the Paris galleries. At the Museum we have only two private days when the artists are accommodated in our gallery to draw from the sculptures. The Almanach Royal et National for 1834 is the authority for my present statement, as far as relates to the Louvre galleries. 252. In point of fact, the public are admitted to the British Museum on what days } — On Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, and artists every day 'except Saturday, that being the general cleansing day. The artists on public days are of necessity obliged to give way to the public. On Monday, when I was last here, 3,764 persons visited the Museum ; of course artists could not make draw- ings at such a time. On the private days no scruple whatever is made in admitting a very considerable number of persons, as long as the artists are not inconvenienced. In fact, no person who applies for admission is refused on the private days ; but if the public were generally or extensively admitted on the private days, the artists, especially female artists, of whom we have a large sprinkling, must abandon their pursuits ; they could not place their academy boxes and drawing stands where they wish. From the narrowness of many parts of our gallery, they are often obliged to take their positions in its centre. 253. Do you consider it very important for the general interests of art, that some attention should be paid to the special accommodation of -artists ? — I consider the utility of the Museum would be materially injured if the public were admitted on what are called the private days. 254. You consider then that the best interests of the Museum are better con- sulted by limiting the admission of the world at large to three days, and giving to artists and men of science the exclusive possession of the two other days? — Naturalists could not make drawings in natural history, and artists could not m«ake drawings of sculpture, on the public days, it would be impossible. 255. How many hours are usually occupied in cleansing the Museum on Saturday .?— I have made minute inquiry upon this, and 1 find that it requires never less than seven hours, and frequently more. The very dusting of the cases occupies some time; after 4,800 people have been in our rooms, which has happened, I leave you to imagine the immense quantity of dust upon the tops of the glass cases alone. 256. You think it would not be possible, by giving up part of Saturday to the cleansing, to open the Museum for the rest of the day ?— 1 do not think it would; there is so much washing and cleansing. I will make a remark, with your per- mission, with respect to the reading-room. We are frequently reproached for still keeping the single holidays of the 30th January and the 5th of .November ; they are supposed to be days for recollecting transactions which have gone by, and that the public ought not to be excluded on their account. Now I beg to say, that if the public were not excluded on those days, there would be no oppor- tunity whatever, at what I may call the dirtiest time of the year, for washing the reading-room ; which is so very essential, that soon after the present room was first opened on a Saturday, we found the filth had accumulated considerably, and there was even discontent. The messenger came to me ; he said '* Sir, there is great discontent in the reading-room." I said, " What has happened now ?" " Why, sir, the fleas are inconveniencing the readers ', the room wants washing;" and in, fact, we are obhged to have the room washed on the 30th of January and the 5th of November, those being the only two days at that dark period of the year when the room can be thoroughly cleansed. rYou must ap- 479. D 2 propriate 20 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE sir Henry Ellis, propriate Other days, if you have not those days. By our regulations, we cannot — . take lights in at night, and if the place were washed at night, it would give ali 21 May 1835, the readers cold when they came the next day. The preserving of these days for cleansing the reading-room, or some other days about the same time of the year, seems to me to be desirable. ^7 u ' ■ 257. You have stated that it takes seven hours for cleansing ?— Yes ; there is an extent of 600 feet of floor, exclusive of table-cases and side-cases, : in the upper story of the east wing alone. , 258. At what hour are the public admitted in the morning ?— At 10 o clock. 259. Would there be any difficulty in having the Museum cleansed every day?— It is cleansed every day ; the maid-servants are occupied from six to ten o'clock every day. It is swept and dusted every day. Unless you visit the place early in the morning to see the dirt, you can hardly form a notion of the long and very laborious employ it occasions to the servants. 260. Would it be the same thing to the British Museum if one day of the week were appropriated, whatever that day might be? — Yes, to the British Museum. 261. Whether it was Saturday or Monday would make no difference? — No. I beg to say, from experience, that I can show you upon paper that Saturday is likely to be the most convenient day of the week. It is a day, I grant, part of which is spent in leisure ; but we have always fewer readers by one third on a Saturday than on any other day. They go out of town. 262. The cleansing on a Saturday is a more extensive and complete cleansing^ than is given on any other day ? — Yes. I have mentioned that on Saturdays much fewer people come to the reading-room than on any other day ; for instance, on Friday the 15th of May there were 259, and on Saturday the 16th of May there were 172, I believe you will find the proportions every week fall oft' on a Saturday ; showing that Saturday is so far the most convenient day, that the number of those who come to us is smaller than it would be on any other day of the week. 263. Your answer now relates rather to readers than to visitors ? — I conceive, that the visitors, in all probability, would fall off in a somewhat similar pro- portion. 264. Is there any reason to suppose that ? — The readers who come, evidently leave us, to a great extent, on the Saturday. 265. Are not the readers of a different class from the visitors ordinarily? — I think the town goes out of town on Saturdays, and that the visitors would be likely to fall off in the same proportion, or in a proportion near to it. 266. You have no restriction as to readers on Saturdays ; they are equally admitted as on any other day ? — Yes, 267. You have stated you are the Principal Librarian of the British Museum ; will you state by whom you were appointed? — By the King, under his sign- manual. 268. Are you appointed for life, or only during good behaviour? — During good behaviour. , 269. What are your duties ? — The care and custody of the general repository is given to me; I am placed under the control of the trustees, give them such, bonds as they require for the due and faithful discharge of my office, and am expected by them to exercise a constant superintendence over every department of the Museum, and take care that all orders made by them relative to the internal management of the Museum are duly carried into effect. I report to the trustees any instances of loss, neglect, or irregularity; I make such remarks on the monthly reports of the officers as may be necessary for the information of the trustees; and at the four general meetings of the year, in February, May July and December, I make special reports to the trustees of all that has been doke by each officer m every department ; certifying, at the same time, my opinion of the efficiency of the labours severally performed. I grant special permissions to persons eminent for rank, science or learning, especially foreigners, who desire to inspect the Museum ; and 1 either attend them myself, or appoint some other officer to perform that duty. I grant the admissions to the readina-room, the whole management of which rests with me, as well as the correspondence relating to it. No articles of a small kind for the use or service of the house are obtained for any department without my signature ; the requisitions for the same beinff constantly entered in an order book, which is laid monthly before the trustees and from which they satisfy themselves that whatever was wanted and had has been SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 21 been obtained under proper sanction. In the intervals of the committees, if an Sir Henry EiUs. books, manuscripts, charters, deeds, or instruments are wanted for production in — ~~ evidence in any of the Courts, I give the leave for their being carried out of the ^^ ^^^^' •^^" Museum ; such removal of articles from the general repository being reported to the trustees at the next monthly meeting either by myself, or by the officer to whose department the same may have appertained. It is my duty to take care that the fire-engines, and whatever belongs to them, are kept in order ; that the keys of the fire-cocks are deposited in a proper place, where they may be come at in case of accident by fire during my absence. I am also Expenditor, a separate office given to me by the Three Principal Trustees ; in which capacity I keep an account of all imprests and expenditures made under the order of the trust. I examine and check the tradesmen's bills, as well as the bills for purchases of ©very kind ; I certify that the respective articles in them have^been ordered by the proper authority, that the charges are duly made, and the computations accurate. I pay all the cheques issued by the Trustees upon the Bank of England ; of these I keep a separate account as they pass through my^hands. The Trustees imprest to me, at their monthly meetings, such sum or sums as I calculate will be wanted during the interval between Committee and Committee,'^out of which I pay taxes, wages, board wages, the moiithly pay of the inferior attendants, the salaries of persons temporarily employed, such bills under 5 1, as the trustees direct at their meetings to be paid, and all such sudden demands as cannot wait for a meeting of the Committee, as freight and carriage of articles of curiosity, any bills drawn from abroad, &c. &c. The accounts of the Expenditor are audited by the Trustees once a year, at the time of making up the annual Returns for Par- liament ; but the balance in hand, or in favour of the expenditor, is unfailingly reported to the trustees every month. Previous to the vacation the trustees sometimes place in the expenditor's hands a considerable sum ; it has been as much as 1,800/., but it is always divided into cheques of 300/. or 500/., and each is only broken up as it is wanted. I give a separate personal bond of 2,000 L to the trustees for the faithful discharge of the office of expenditor ; but there is na salary or emolument, or patronage of any kind, belonging to it. My predecessor gave a bond of 1,000 /. only ; but in a conversation with the late Archbishop of Canterbury, at the time His Majesty appointed me principal librarian, I oflFered to his Grace to double the bond, that being the largest sum I had ever known to be placed in the expenditor's hands at one time. His Grace agreed to the proposal, which was afterwards confirmed by the trustees. The general care and superintendence of the publication of the Synopsis also rests with me j 1 receive the produce of its sale through the hands of the chief messenger. I am ordered, as soon as the same amounts to 1 00 /., to pay such- produce to the credit of the- trustees at the Bank. At the end of the sale of every edition, or reprint of an edition, I lay a balance sheet before the trustees, appended to one of my monthly reports, and have the same audited before I pay in the money to the BanlL s4 constantly visit the different departments of the house at uncertain hours, and am perpetually referred to upon what relates to the establishment from all quarters, officers, readers, artists, clerk of the works, messengers, &c. Head and hand are with me in continual employ. 270. During what hours in the day are you required to attend the Museum? — I am not required to attend at any specified time. The statutes of the Museum up to the last two years stated, that the principal librarian was to be in the Museum as often as his duty required it, but there was no specified time. The trustees, in their last statute, have altered the wording, to keeping a constant superintendence over every department. There are no specified times, with the exception of attendance at all ordinary meetings of the trustees.. 271. Do you derive any emolument from any other public source besides that of the Museum ? — I had not for a very great length of time derived any emolur ment from a public source, until two years ago, whei^ I received 300 /. from the Record Commission, for a work which I had been engaged in for some years. There was no return of it made to Parliament in the Report of 1 833, because I had not then received any money. 272. Do you receive any fees in the discharge of your duties from the visitor* at the Museum ?— None whatever. 273. When you furnish transcripts of books or the loan of deeds, for the pur- pose of furnishing evidence, are you remunerated or not? — The officer, from vyhose d^artment the book or manuscript, or deed is carried out, .receives a fee, the •^ii479. V 3 amount 22 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Hmrg Ellis, amount of which is ordered to be arranged with the principal librarian. The ^'' officer receives the same fee that a solicitor does when he is taken from his ottice. 21 May 1835. It is two guineas a day for attending any court in London, and. three guineas ui the country. . r • 274. Have you received any fees yourself?— I have formerly, in a tew in- stances, when I was keeper of the manuscripts ; but the principal librarian nas nothing to do with fees of any sort. . cu h 275. Is it not the practice in the British Museum to furnish transcripts ot books or manuscripts, for which some emolument is expected ?— That practice «cists chiefly in the manuscript department; but there is no emolument to the otticer, unless he personally undertakes to become the amanuensis for the party. 276. If the officer of the Museum furnishes a transcript of any part ot a manu- script or a transcript of any work, he would expect for that a certain fixed remu- neration ? — Yes. . . 277. Can you state what that remuneration is?— I know not, because it is a contract between the parties ; and I do not believe there is any officer at the British Museum at the present moment, or has been for years, who has undertaken to make transcripts. 278. You never derived any emolument yourself from such a source? — I be- lieve, when I was a junior officer, I might have made some transcripts at my leisure. It must have been a great many years ago ; 20 years ago. As to any present practice of this kind, the keeper of the manuscript department will give yoii more accurate information than I can. ' 279. In case of any misunderstanding between the individual requiring a tran- script, and the curator of the manuscripts, would such a question be referred to you ? — It might be ; but such a case has never occurred. 280. You consider it to be a private compact? — Yes. 281. Independently of the duties which you have described so minutely as expenditor and general superintendent of the affairs of the Museum, are you also secretary of the Society of Antiquaries ? — I am Joint Secretary. 282. Do the duties of that office interfere with the duties you have to discharge to the British Museum ? — Not in the least ; their meetings are held in the evening. Their councils, about five or six in the year, are held in the afternoon. 283. You receive, I imagine, some salary for that.? — I do; and if I did not, I could not afford to be principal librarian of the British Museum. 284. Will you state the amount you derive from the Soqiety of Antiquaries? — 150 guineas. 285. Do you receive any salary from, the Record Commission ?~No. 286. The only emolument you have received is what you have already stated? —Yes. 287. Are you now employed by the Record Commission? — I h,aye undertaken to edit the Extents of Welsh Manors in the time of Edward the Third ; they are called the Welsh Domesday. 288. A work of considerable labour and research? — Yes, a work of considerable labour ; but I have made no agreement respecting it whatever ; I do not know what the Commission will give me for it ; they will value it themselves, and remunerate me with what may seem just when it is finished. 289. I believe you have also edited some of the works of the Society for the diffusion of Useful Knowledge ? — I have written an account of the Elgin marbles, of which they tell me they have sold 10,000 copies. 290. You are also upon the committee ? — Yes, 291. Which committee exercises a superintendence over the society? Yes. 292. Does your attendance upon that committee interfere with your duties at the Museum ?— No ; I do not think I have attended it four times in two years. 293. You are an author as well as Principal Librarian and Expenditor of the British Museum ? — I have, at times, published various works. 294. You were previous to the year 1827 the secretary of the Museum? I was. 295. For how long a period were you secretary of the Museum ?— I think it was 13 years. 296. What salary did you receive as secretary?— I received 60/. during the greater part of the time ; the last year or two it was raised to 100/. ^97. It never exceeded 100/. ?-^Never; it was only 60 1, until 1825 or 1826. 298. Has it ever exceeded 100/.? — Never. «1 299. Wlien SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 23 '299. When yoti were appointed to the office of principal librarian, did you Sir Benry Ellis. continue any longer to dischat-ge the duties of secretary ? — For a few weeijs, till a successor was appointed. ax May i83£,. 300. Was the resignation of the office of secretary voluntary on your part, or was it made a condition of your appointment as principal librarian by the Trus- tees ? — No, the body of trustees had nothing to do with it. 301. The appointment to the other office virtually cancelled the appointment as secretary, in your opinion ? — I consideredjit did, if it was the pleasure of the Archbishop of Canterbury that I should resign, and I found that it was. 302. Has it ever been the practice that the principal librarian should also be the secretary ? — The first principal librarian was also the secretary, but for a very short time. 303. The offices have not generally been conjoined ? — No. 304. Was not the late Mr. Planta principal librarian and secretary ? — No, not ■while he was principal librarian. He was one of the secretaries of the Royal Society, and was also a paymaster of the Exchequer. 305. Who is the present secretary ? — The Rev. Mr. Forshall. 306. What other office does he fill ? — He is keeper of the manuscripts. 307. Do you think the union of the two offices of keeper of the manuscripts and secretary is compatible with the interests of the Museum ? — I found the duties of the office of secretary heavy. 308. Is it not a natural consequence arising from the keeper of the manu- scripts holding the office of secretary, that the performance of the greater part of his duties in the former department must devolve upon the assistant keeper ? — The duties of the keeper and the assistant keeper are separate, and I believe none of Mr. Forshall's own duties, as keeper of the manuscripts, devolve upon the assistant keeper. 309. Do you state that from your own knowledge ? — Yes. 31 o. There are no clerks employed, then ? — There are clerks and temporary assistants employed in the manuscript department, under Mr. Forshall's directions. 311. Would the same number be employed or be necessary, if Mr. Forshall was only keeper of the manuscript department, and not secretary ? — I do not know that. Mr, Forshall works of an evening, and gives up a great deal of extra time to the duties of secretary. 3 1 2. I am asking with reference to the efficient discharge of the duties of keeper of the manuscript department; do you think the efficiency of his duty is impaired by holding another and a laborious office' ? — I hardly know how to answer that question, he is so very active and laborious a man. 313. Does Mr. Forshall discharge part of his duties as secretary at hours when he could not discharge the duties he has to perform as keeper of the manu- scripts ? — Certainly; on Saturdays, and in the evenings I am assured he is busily employed. 314. As secretary? — Yes. 315. The hours of his business as keeper of the manuscripts being confined to those hours of the day when he can be in the Museum without candle-light? — Yes. 316. Have clerks been employed in the office of keeper of the manuscripts since Mr. Forshall discharged the joint duties of secretary and keeper of the manuscripts ? — Yes, their employment has originated since. . 317. Then the joint duties of secretary and keeper of the manuscripts are in fact incompatible without additional assistance? — Great accessions and over- whelming accessions have been made to the department of manuscripts of late years, which certainly made it necessary to call in extra assistance. I believe these clerks do also help him in the duties of secretary, at least some of them. 318. And the duties also of the office of secretary have been correspondingly increased with the increase of the collections of the Museum ? — I conceive the duties of secretary have doubled since I was in the office. 319. Then not only have the duties of the keeper of the manuscripts increased, but 'the duties of secretary have also increased? — The collections are very much increased, and consequently the duties of both offices. 320. Is the Committee to infer from your evidence, that you conceive the duties of the two offices can be efficiently discharged by one individual? — I do not like to rely upon my own jodgment in giving an answer to that question. 479; D 4 .321- Would Sir Henr)/ Ellis. 24 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE 321. Would it not be of more advantage j;o separate the two offices ?— -Pro- vided it could be done without injury to the individual, I think it would. 21 May 1835. 322. You do not consider that Mr. Forshall is over paid ?— Certainly not. 323. But over encumbered with duty? — Yes. 324. If Mr. Forshall were not secretary, would he want as many clerks as are now employed ? — Possibly not. 325. Would it be possible for Mr. Forshall to discharge the duties of keeper of the manuscripts without the assistance of clerks ? — Certainly not. 326. Then that office alone would be more than one individual could dis- charge without aid ? — Yes. 327. Mr. Forshall, I believe, has some other appointment; some clerical duty to discharge ? — He is chaplain to the Foundling Hospital. 328. Do you attend, or are you present at all or any meetings of the board, in your official character of principal librarian ? — 1 never attend any meeting of the board in my official capacity at any other times than when the trustees send to consult me. I have no seat in the room ; they send for me when they wish to confer with me. 329. Was it the practice in Mr. Planta's time for the secretary to attend the 'board ? — The secretary always attended the board. 330. Is that the practice at present ? — It is. 331. Do the chiefs of the departments ever take their seats at the board by virtue of their offices ? — Never. 332. Do any of the officers of the Museum, within your knowledge as principal librarian, hold appointments which require them to be absent from the Museum during those hours which ought to be devoted to the service of the Museum ? — No. Mr. Konig holds the office of foreign secretary to the Royal Society, but it does not take him away from the Museum. Mr. Children holds the office of a regular secretary to the Royal Society ; it need not, that I know of, carry him away, the ordinary meetings of the society being always held in the evening : and, unless on such occasions as he may go to H. R. H. the President in the day time, for consultation or reference, his office at the Royal Society occasions no other absence. 333. Does Sir Frederick Madden hold any other office ? — He holds no office that I am aware of. 334. Does Mr. Panizzi?— I believe he remains in the list of professors of the London University, but there is nothing that ever calls him away. There "is no man more punctual in his attendance. 335. Is Mr. Carlisle? — Mr. Carlisle comes only two days in the week. He is my colleague in the office of Secretary of the Society of Antiquaries, but that office never even by accident calls him away from the Museum. He was a Com- missioner of Charities, but the commission is at an end. That did not take him away really from the duties of his office, because, giving two days only in the week to us, he had it in his power to make an exchange of time, by coming on other days in lieu of the regular days of duty. Such exchanges as he wished for were reported to the trustees; and the amount of time required by his appoint- ment was fulfilled. He was one of the librarians who were attached to the Royal Library when at Buckingham House, and he came with it to the Museum 336. What is his situation ?— He is now Second Under Librarian in the depart- ment of Printed Books. '■ 337. You have seen a Return that was moved for in the year 1833 for an account of the number of librarians, officers and other persons employed in the British Museum } — Yes. , ^ , 338. How many officers have been appointed in the Museum since the 20th of March 1833 ?— I think there has been no appointment, to the best of mv know- ledge, since. '' 3Zg. Will you state to the Committee the names of the principal officers of the Museum at the present tune?— I have a list of the officers, attendants and servants ot the Museum, which 1 will put in. {See Appendix, No. 6.) 340. Have any new offices been created since the 25th of March ig-^q?— 1 believe none ; but one or two fresh clerks have been employed. ^ ' 341. In what departments?— The temporary employment of Dr. Rosen for the catalogue of Oriental manuscripts; and Dr. Schier is employed in the catalogue of books in the Sckvonian language, and in the other dialects of the north of Europe. 342. Have SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 25 342. Have any assistants been appointed ?— The two whom I have just men- Sir Henry Ellis. tioned. — ____ — 343. Are those temporary or permanent employments? — Temporary employ- ^i May 1835, ments. 344. Did anybody precede Dr. Rosen in that employment? — Not in the same employment. A gentleman of the name of Stevenson left us, and then Mr. Mftchell was allowed to extend his time, and Dr. Rosen taken into employ, being ' limited as to the number of days to be given in the month. The keeper of the manuscripts can explain this more fully. 345. There has been an assistant keeper of the printed books appointed, I believe? — ^Three persons have lately been temporarily employed in that depart- ment to transcribe titles. 346. With respect to the general superintendence of the collections entrusted to the trustees, what security is there that the integrity of the different collections is perfectly preserved? — The officers of each department give security to the trustees, and for their own safety will watch narrowly for the preservation of everything under their care. ,347. You say the oflficers give security? — Yes. 348. Do they take any security, or are any securities given by those persons who are under th^m ? — No, 349. Is it not, therefore, necessary that the eye of the principal officer should be constantly over the inferior persons who must be employed in that business ? ■ — Yes. 350. Are those inferior persons employed by the officers who give security, or are they appointed by another body that has nothing to do with it? — They are appointed by the Three Principal Trustees. 351. And yet it is through those persons, if any loss should arise, that the loss would be most likely to occur ? — In most of the departments the officers only keep the keys of the cases and tables. .352. Is there any annual report made, and by whom is the report made, to the trustees, of the various collections? — Every officer of a department, whether senior or junior, makes an annual report at the time of the Visitation in the month of May. 353- Who actually visit? — The Trustees ; those Trustees who form the' general me^eting of that day. '354. Over how many days is the Visitation extended ? — The visitation is not extended over more than that day. The reports of the officers, in the first instance, come to me. I read them over carefully, and am responsible to the trustees for the truth of their general contents. The trustees, at the end of the meeting, go over the House ; they see that the Collections are in good order ; any fresh .Catalogues which may have been made are laid out, and the trustees have an opportunity of seeing the different arrangements, and of making their inquiries. 355. Then you, in fact, are the actual visitor, if the visitors depend upon you ; you, in fact, must be considered the actual visitor, if the visitors depend upon you for the accuracy of the reports of the different officers ? — I only attest them. I report to the trustees the efficiency of the service which appears upon these reports, and my approval of the whole body of the reports. 356. Is it possible, as the visitation does not extend over more than one day, that the visitation can be more than a mere act of form on their part, looking also to the extent of the collection ? — It is a check as well as a form. 357. Is it possible that they can satisfy themselves, in the course of one day, that the reports of the different officers as to the efficient state of the different collections are true or not ? — Perhaps I have not stated clearly to the Committee what the facts are relative to the Reports. Every officer makes his report monthly to the trustees ; the trustees see the progress of his labour, and occasionally go and look, and recommend alterations in the departments. Then these reports of the month of May give, in fact, a bird's-eye view of what has been done through the whole year, got together from the different reports of the year. The trustees have been watching the progress of the labours every month of the year and this is the summary which is made to them. 358. Are the Trustees proper judges of many of those points that are supposed to come under their consideration ; for instance, those who administer the mine- '479. E ■ ralogical 26 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Hem-^ ElUs. ralogical department, are they likely to have an accurate knowledge upon the — subject ; are they good judges that the descriptions of the minerals are correct ^-- 21 May 1835. They must rely upon their officer for the description of the minerals ; but i pe to observe that scientific visitors, and even the public, would soon hnd out erroneous labels. . .„ , ^r.ornr 359. Have they ever called into their assistance scientific men to accompany them round the Museum in the course of their visitation ?— Never. 360. Would there be any objection to laying before the Committee copies ot -the last annual reports made by the chiefs of departments to the trustees -_ I should think not ; the trustees are anxious that the Committee shbuld satisfy themselves upon every point. . , , ., j ^- e *u„;„ 361. Do the trustees take any steps to ascertain that the duties of their respective officers are effectively discharged ?-Yes ; they put the responsibility upon me of seeing those duties discharged. 362. That you consider a part of your duty? — Always. 363. Then as to the arrangement, classification and nomenclature, for instance, of the mineralogical collection, should you feel yourself competent to report to the trustees that it is kept upon the best principles with reference to the state ot scientific knowledge ?— That would not be within my duty; the trustees having appointed' a person fit to manage the mineralogical collection, it would not be for me to interfere further than to see that his attendance was regular, and that he busied himself upon the duties of his department. 364. In the case of an office falling vacant, is any publicity given to the fact of that vacancy, in order to open the door to competition ? — I should think so. 365. What course is taken by the Trustees to fill up an office ?~The Trustees have nothing to do with it as a body. The Archbishop of Canterbury, the Lord Chancellor and The Speaker of the House of Commons are the appointing trustees ; and I believe, upon all occasions, his Grace, as well as the Lord Chancellor and The Speaker, receive numerous letters recommending different parties; and I have reason to know that they all take great pains to ascertain the qualifications of the parties. 366. What steps are taken to give publicity to the fact of there being a vacancy in any office in the Museum? — I think I may safely say, that when any vacancy happens in an office in the British Museum, publicity is sure to atteftd it. 367. Was the step ever taken of putting an advertisement in the Edinburgh, Dublin or London newspapers that such an office was vacant, and that the trustees, on a given day, were to receive testimonials, and to consider of the qualifications of the different candidates ? — No, that has never been done by the board ; the great body of the trustees, as I have' mentioned before, have nothing to do with the patronage. 368. Then the appointment of any officer must depend upon the accident of an appropriate person having made his way to those trustees who appoint ? — Literary and scientific men have always friends to write to the Archbishop, the Chancellor, and The Speaker. 369. Then their appointment would depend on the personal canvass of their friends, and the fact of their having friends to support that canvass ? — No ; on the satisfaction which the Archbishop, the Chancellor, or The Speaker would receive upon the qualification of the party applying to fill the particular vacancy. 370. Is the principle of promotion acted upon in the establishment? — Yes, undoubtedly ; unless there is a reason for passing any person over. 371. Will you state any instance in which the officers have been promoted? — J was myself an extra assistant in the ^Printed Book Department when I first entered the Museum ; I was afterwards made assistant keeper ; and I was pro- moted to be keeper of the printed books. In the case of Mr, Douce's resig- nation,- I moved to the department of. Manuscripts, and was put ove^ Mr. Maurice's head ; but there was a substantial reason for that. Mr. Maurice although the world gave him a high literary character, proved inefficient as a keeper of manuscripts ; the trustees passed him over. I was desired when the vacancy occurred, to explain to him the impossibility of his being pro- mqted ; but that, as I was to be transferred from the Books to the Manuscript^ a friend, and not a stranger, would be placed above him. I may add, in proof 'of his himself retaining no unkind remembrance of this transaction, that he after- wards SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 27 wards made me his principal executor. But perhaps I can answer the question Sir Henry i:ilis. which has been put to me in a more compact form. I beg to state, that there is — — — r- no officer at the head of any department at this moment in the British Museum 21 May 1835. who has not been promoted from a junior office in his department. 372. Will you inform the Committee of the salary of the Deputy-assistant librarians generally ? Is there a scale of salary in the Museum?— No: some are paid los. a day; some 125. ; Dr. Rosen receives 20*. a day. These gentlemen are only paid for the days of their attendance, the days on which they perform their duty. They are almost all paid under different agreements. 373. Whsft is the rule you attend to in apportioning a -proper salary to each oflBcerP-^The trustees settle that in Committee; though in the case of one gentle- man, who had 12 *. a day, I think he has now 15 *., in consequence of his services being very effective, and of his superior fitness. 374. Do the trustees directly sanction this daily pay to literary men ? — They conceive they obtain more efficient services, I believe, by this mode of payment, than by giving a salary ; and they can relieve the institution from the encumbrance of the employ,' when the necessity for it ceases. 375. Those are occasional employments ? — Yes ; but although occasional employments, the collections now increase so much that I conceive there is very little chance, but that such assistance must continue to be called for. 376. Then is there a system of daily pay of learned individuals permitted by the trustees of the Museum V — Yes; they are mostly young men, who are satisfied with the pay they have agreed to take, and probably consider the Museum a stepping stone to future prospects. 377. Did Mr. Millingen, the author of a work on Ancient Greek Coims, ever apply to the trustees for the office of keeper or assistant-keeper of antiquities, or for any extra employment, which was denied r — That is not within my kiaowledge. I know Mr. Millingen ; and I have long understood that his health was such as would make it inconvenient to him to live in this country for any great length of time together. 377*. But it does not appear that he had ever applied for the office ?— I will not say that he did not apply, but if I ever heard the rumour of it, it has gone from my recollection. 378. With reference to the Attendants, from what class of persons are they selected in general?. — It is rather difficult to describe. In one or two instances they have been men who have been employed under booksellers. I think there is one person employed in the library now who was a reader at Mr. Woodfall's printing-office, an extremely fit man for his post. Many of the general attendants require but little qualification. 379. How did that person you allude to become acquainted with the trustees ? ■; — I think the Rev. Mr. Baber, who is at the head of the Printed Books, was desired to look out for some fit person to transcribe titles in his department, and he heard, either accidentally or by inquiry, of this Mr. Grabham. The Bishop of Chichester attested his character for attainments far beyond the service which was wanted, and the Trustees, without knowing or seeing the man, allowed of the appointment. ■380, How are the Attendants paid?— They are paid indifferent gradations. There have been some alterations since the year 1833 in the payment of the attendants. 38 1 . Are they paid by salary, or daily or weekly pay ?— Some by quarterly salary, and some by monthly pay. 382. What is the lowest salary of an attendant ? — £. 1 per week. 383. What is the highest? — I think about 120/. a year is the highest. The Chief Attendant of the reading-room has 140/. a year. 384. Have they any perquisites in addition to their salary ? — None whatever. 385. Have they any holidays? — The ordinary attendants are allowed three weeks in the year, to be taken according to the convenience of the department, so that the service of the department shall never be crippled. 386. Are they ever required to attend at the Museum when it is closed to the public ? — -Yes. 387. What duties do they discharge 4here ?— The duty of cleansing, and so on. 388. Are they allowed to receive anything from the readers and visitors of the rooms ?^ — Nothing whatever. 479. E 2 389- Is 28 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Heftry Ellis. 389. Is there any notice in the room that the visitors are forbidden that prac- tice?— There is no notice in the reading-room, but there is a notice in the halt •21 May 1835. that the servants are not allowed to take money if offered. 390. Is it customary to appoint any attendant or menial servant to any respon- sible office in the Library, or any other department of the Museum ?— No, certainly not. 391. Do those persons vt^ho are servants or attendants at the Museum officiate as servants to any of the officers of the establishment ?— There was an instance, a short time ago, of an officer having one of the attendants, with his wife, to keep his house; but the man was never at the officer's house except either before or after the Museum hours. It was three or four years ago. J have just learnt that the same attendant is again so employed. I am confident that that officer is a man of too honourable feeling to suffer the attendant to serve him in his private capacity during any of the Museum hours. I believe some of the attendants are in the habit of gaining money by waiting in an evening, and then their services have been occasionally received and paid for by some of the officers. 392. Are they mostly persons who have been domestic servants in gentlemen's families ? — Some of them. 393. Most of them ? — Perhaps not most of them. I think one or two of them have been such of a superior description. 394. Butler for instance? — No. There is a man of the name of Dutts, in the department of Antiquities, who was a courier of Lord Castlereagh's, and was after- wards taken into the service of Sir Thomas Lawrence, and this man is among the most useful of our attendants. There is also a man of the name of Conrath, who was in the service of Mr. Charles Townley, and who knew (if he does not yet know) more of the history of his master's collection than most of those who visited it. He is one of the attendants in the Townley Gallery. 395. In the Return to Parliament in the year 1833, which you hold in your hand, in pages 1 8 and 1 9 there is a list of the attendants, their salaries, and the time of their services? — Yes. But upon the details of that list, and upon the reasons for the scale, I must refer you to the secretary. 396. Are the salaries fixed according to the competency of the person ? ' — Yes. 397. Is that attended to more than length of service? — I think it has been of late years. 398. Is it required as a qualification of an attendant that he should be able to write a good hand ? — We endeavour always now to secure that. 399. Has that been the rule heretofore ?— Yes, I believe most of the attendants write a fair hand. 400. Is it considered a desirable qualification that they should be able to speak French, in order to answer any questions put by a foreigner ?— No ; generally speaking, I do not think it is. ' & j' 401. Do you not consider it a desirable qualification ?— There are several who speak French. We have Conrath, who travelled a good deal ; and Dutts who as I mentioned, was a courier to Lord Castlereagh. ' ' 402. What satisfaction would it be to a person putting a question in any department of the Museum that an officer m another department happened to be able to speak French?— The question relates to the Attendants. If a foreiirner comes and desires to see the Museum, the messenger usually informs me or in my absence, the secretary, and an attendant is immediately sent for from 'one of the departments who is able to go about the Museum with him. 403. Who are the officers in the Museum best conversant with the accounts ? —There is an Accountant, but he has not been accountant very long I beheve hardly a year ; but a certain portion of the accounts rests with myself as exoen ditor ; and all the payments of the trustees pass through ray hands. ' 404. Besides the accountant and yourself, is there any other officer in the Museum who is conversant with the accounts? — Mr. Forshall the secre • tary, is. © j t e- SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 29 Lmce, 25" die Mail, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Sir Henry Ellis and the Rev. Josiah Forshall, called in ; and Examined. 405. (To Sir H. Ellis.) — IS it the habit when the Trustees summon the heads sir Henry Mis of the different departments before them to keep the latter standing ?— They and the Rev. usually stand. Josiah Forshall. 406-7. Has that a good or bad effect?— I am not aware that it has any bad effect. 25 May 1835. 408. Do you recollect when the presiden of the Royal Academy, Mr. West, was summoned before the trustees, when he was a very old man ?— Yes ; that was a great many years ago. 409. Was he kept standing all the time ? — I was not secretary then, and was not present. It was at the time when the arrangement was made with him for opening the Townley Gallery to students. Mr. West was in an adjoining room with me, and he went into the trustees, but I did not go in. 410. Was he not very much exhausted when he came out from being kept standing ? — I do not remember that he was. 411. Are you able to give any information as to whether that does or does not produce a bad effect? — I should think not. 412. Have you ever heard any complaints from the heads of the different departments on the subject of their being kept standing in the presence of the trustees'? — I do not know that I have ever heard any complaints. ^ 413. (To Mr. Forshall.) — Have you ever heard any objection on the part pf those who are examined before the trustees on that subject r — Never. 414. Is there any inconvenience from it in point of fact? — No; a chair is offered to the oflBcer if he is kept for any considerable length of time. When, as secretary, I am reading the minutes or other papers, or giving any information to the trustees, I stand, as, I believe, most other secretaries do. . 415. You do not mean to say that secretaries of other societies, in the discharge of their duties before the board, are accustomed to stand ? — Yes, at all public boards, where the secretary is not a member of the board. That is my impression from my own experience. If I felt myself at all fatigued I- should sit down, and whenever I am not engaged in addressing the trustees I always do so. ' 416. Without asking permission ? — Yes. If 1 were reading I should express to the chairman my wish ta sit, but if I were not engaged ,1 should sit down as a matter of course. 417. Generally speaking, when the principal oflScers are examined are they accustomed to sit down ? — I never knew a principal officer under examination for any length of time without being asked to sit. 418. Is it the rule for them to stand and the exception to sit? — When they first come into the room certainly they are not asked to sit ; their presence is not anticipated, and no chair is prepared for them. 419. It is the rule then for the heads of the different departments and the secretary to stand when they come before the trustees ? — Of course, when they first come before the trustees. No gentleman, I presume, would take a chair in the presence of another, in whose room he was, until he was asked to sit down. I stood to read the minutes when I became secretary, because I had been told that Sir Henry Ellis had stood when he was secretary ; but I never gave the matter a moment's consideration. 420. What is the habit ; would a chair be placed for the secretary, and is he, as a matter of course, invited to sit down, or does he, in the first instance, stand ? — A chair is uniformly placed for the secretary, and the trustees usually find me sitting ; when I begin to read the minutes I rise. There is a convenience in standing ; it tends to attract and command attention. 421. In point of fact, if the head of a department comes in to the trustees' room does he sit or stand ? — He stands when he first comes in. 422. Is there anything different in the British Museum ia that respect from E 3 the 30 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis the practice of any other bodies ? — I believe not. The Committee will allow me and the Rev. to add, that I never knew the trustees to behave towards their officers otherwise JosmhForsMl. than with courtesy and respect. 25 May 1835. . 423- (To Sir H. Ellis.)— You mentioned that at one time you held the situa- tion of secretary and keeper of the manuscripts concurrently"; during that period did you receive salary for the entire days of the week as keeper of the manu- scripts ?— I received salary for four days ; that is, my two ordinary days and my two additional days. 424. Was that all ? — That was all I received, and the salary of secretary. 425. In the Returns to Parliament of 1833, Mr. Brown and Mr. Bennett are stated to be the keeper and the assistant-keeper of the Banksian botanical col- lection. Will you state to the Committee how the Museum became possessed of that collection?— Sir Joseph Banks, by a codicil to his will, left his library ta Mr. Brown for the term of his life, afterwards to come to the British Museum. The libraryj and collection of botany attached to it, were to remain in Sir Joseph Banks's house, in Soho-square, which was also bequeathed to him. The trustees conceived that these collections were in a state of possible danger from fire, being in a private house, surrounded by other private houses, and they thought it was best, in order to secure the library and other collections as soon as possible for the Museum, to make some arrangement with Mr. Brown. I do not exactly know how soon that was set on foot after Sir Joseph Banks's death, but I should think within a year or two. Sir Joseph Banks died in 1820, and there was some interval. 426. Was there any library attached to the collection, and ho^ did the Museum obtain possession of it ? — By a negotiation with Mr, BroWn. " There was a report that the books were receiving injury from damp, which turned out not to be true. The collections were obtained by negotiation with Mr. Brown. 427. Will you state what you know of that negotiation? — The trustees carried on their treaty for some time with Mr. Brown, and at last, in 1827, came to the arrangement of bringing the library and collections to the Museum, proposing that he should have the care of them, and recommending to the Principal Trustees at the same time to appoint him to the office of xmder-librarian ; that is, he was made the head of a botanical or Banksian department, upon certain conditions, — a salary of 200 I. for the duty of two days in the week, and extra pay for two additional days of duty, at 75 1, a year each. There was also a further stipulation for lengthened absence in the summer. Mr. Brown gives four days' attendance. , He also stipulated for an assistant, who should be appointed by the trustees on his recommendation, who has 1.50/. a year. 428. Was that negotiation commenced by the Trustees ?— It was commenced by the trustees. 429. Who did they consult in the commencement of the negotiation as to the value of the collection ? — Sir Humphrey Davy was the person who put the nego- tiation forward first. I was then directed to ascertain Mr. Brown's terms, and I found, he wished to be placed on the footing of an under-librarian, or head of a department, and I reported that to the trustees, and they themSelves undertook the negotiation with Mr. Brown after that. 430. Is the care of the library confided to Mr. Brown, and are the collec- tions kept distinct from the other collections in the Museum ?— The library is at present kept distinct ; it was made over to the custody of the keeper of the printed book department: Mr. Brown undertook the charge of the botanical collections only. 431. Then in fact the Hbrary merges in the book department generally ?— Yes the hbrary has so merged ; but Sir Joseph Banks's books are all kept together ' 432. And the natural history collections ?— They are under Mr. Brown's immediate and constant superintendence. 433. Are they kept separate and distinct from the other natural history col- lections .^-^Yes, except so far as this, that Sir Hans Sloane's hortus siccus is kept in the same room with the Banksian collection. 434. Do you think it advisable to keep collections distinct and separate instead of arranging and classifying them into one general and comprehensive collection? —It may be sometimes stipulated in wills ; and the trustees ordered that Mr 'Cracherode's collection should be kept separate : this has occasionally been the practice. 435. Am I to understand that the stipulations in wills are always strictly adhered SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 31 adhered to by the trustees? — I believe the trustees are desirous of adhering to Sir Henri/ Ellis every stipulation of a will. • and the Rev. 436. Am I to understand that the stipulations made in the wills of persons '^''^^''^' Forskall. bequeathing collections to the Museum are alvpays literally and strictly adhered to? — I do not recollect any instance to the contrary. The trustees deemed it right ^^ ^^ ^^^' that Mr. Cracherode's library should be kept separate and distinct j and the Banksian collections, both "as to books and botany, are kept separate. When small collections of books have been bequeathed to us, such as Mr. Tyrwhitt's, Dr. Birch's and Sir William Musgrave's, they have been mixed with the general library. The collection called the King's Pamphlets, presented by King George III., are kept separate, and every volume marked with his name. Sir William Mus- grave's crest is upon the books which he bequeathed ; and Mr. Cracherode's' arms are upon the sides of his books. 437. Was there no part of Sir- Joseph Banks's collection presented to the College of Surgeons at one period, which was in the original cases in which it had been deposited in the vaults of the British Museum ? — This question, I sus- pect, has reference to certain articles which had been given to the British Museum at a former period by Sir Joseph Banks, and were parted with by the trustees in the year 1812. I should be glad to be allowed to ajiswer it on some other ' day, when I shall have supplied myself with more complete intelligence than I am possessed of at this moment. 438. (To Mr. Forshall.) — Has the bequest of 40,000/. to thte Museum by Mr. White, for the purpose of building a library and reading-room, been received by the trustees, and if so, how has it been applied ? — The money bequeathed by Mr. White has not been received. 439. Can you give us any information as to the expectation entertained of its being re.ceived ? — One part of the bequest is, I believe, dependent on the life of the survivor of two individuals, the mother and widow of Mr. White; the other part of it is dependent on the life of Mr. White's widow solely. When these two lives drop the trustees will be entitled to the whole. 440. As yet nothing has been received ? — No part bf the bequest has been received. 441. In the Returns of 1833, rendered to Parliament by the trustees, under the head of "bequests, donations and contributions," there is no mention of Mr. White's bequest ; will you inform the Committee why that was omitted ? — It was not intentionally omitted ; but being a reversionary bequest, of which the Museum had not the immediate usufruct, it was inadvertently left out, through want of sufficient attention to the terms of the order of the House of Commons. 442. (To Sir Henry Ellis.) — Were you ever deputed by the trustees to proceed to Pottiard, in France, to examine a collection of manuscripts belonging to the Baron de Joursanvault, and to treat for the purchase of the same ? — At the time alluded to, in 1829, I was going on my own account to Paris: it was at the entrance of' the summer vacation. The trustees were not to meet again till the autumn. A proposal for the sale of the collection of manuscripts which the question refers to came to The Speaker of the House of Commons. The Speaker communicated with me ; I afterwards saw the Archbishop of Canterbury on the subject ; and I undertook a mission from Paris to Pomard. If the Committee will be so good as to defer this part of their inquiry till I have looked at my papers, I shall be able to give them information which I trust will be satisfactory. 443. Will you state what was the consideration given to the Royal Society for the purchase of the Arundel manuscripts? — There were some duplicate books to a moderate amount ; and I believe the produce of a sale of dupHcate books which they did not take ; and 1 think there was a grant from Parliament in aid. 444. By whom was the collection valued ? — There were several persons em- ployed. I think the manuscripts were valued by Mr. Forshall and myself, (all except the Oriental manuscripts,) and Sir Francis Palgrave Hkewise examined them, (By Mr. Forshall.) — Messrs. Payne and Foss valued, on the part of the Royal Society, and Sir Henry Ellis, assisted by myself, on the part of the trustees. 445. By whom were the duplicate books valued thatwere transferred to the Royal Society t — By Messrs. Payne and Foss. They were comparatively few in number. 446. (To Sir Henry Ellis.)— Were any of the trustees of the Museum at the time of this transfer, or at any period of the negotiation for the purchase of the Arundel manuscripts, members of the council of the Royal Society ? — I do not think they 479. E 4 447- Were 32 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir HetiryElUs 447- Were not the president of the Royal Society and the president of and the Rev. the Society of Antiquaries both trustees of the British Museum and members of Josiah Forsha ll. jj^g council of the Royal Society ?— The president of the Society of Antiquaries 25 Mav iS-?*; ^^^ "°*^ ^"^ ^^^ council of the Royal Society at that time. 448. Were you at that period in any way connected with the Royal Society? — I was upon the council. 449. Was any other officer of the Museum at that time upon the council of the Society? — I think Mr. Children was secretary at that time; but I do not know that any other officer of the Museum was on the council, unles^ Mr. Brown was. 450. Is there any information yoti can give the Committee on the subject of' that exchange ?— None, that I am aware of. 451. Do you consider that the exchange was a fair and bondjide change in all its parts? — I conceive so. THe Arundel manuscripts were a very desirable acquisition for us. 452. Who selected the duplicate books? — I believe diiferent members of the council of the Royal Society came and pointed out such books as were desirable for their library. They wished very much to obtain mathematical books, and our duplicates were but scanty in that department of knowledge. 453. From what collection were the duplicates principally selected ? — They were duplicates which our librarians had selected from the general library, 454. Selected from the library generally ? — Yes ; and the members of the Royal Society came and looked at them, and pointed out the books which were most desirable. The selection took a length of time, for they waited for duplicates in future years to make up the amount at which the manuscripts were valued, 455. No one collection was exempted from that selection of duplicates ? — Nothing was selected that had been either given or bequeathed. * 456. (To Mr. Forshall.) Is that the practice in all cases ?— Certainly, such are the general instructions of the trustees. 457- (To Sir Henry Ellis.) Then whatever might be the number of duplicates; do I understand that if they are given or bequeathed they would be allowed. to ' remain in the Museum ? — Yes ; I can give an instance in the case of Lascaris's Greek grammar, of which we have three copies of the first edition of 1472, a, book" of extreme scarcity ; one copy came with Mr. Cracherode's library, and one with" the library- of King George III. : the third copy was purchased in Dr. Burriey's library, but it is the finest and tallest of all, and being a, very fine exemplar, is also kept. 458. Having obtained two Acts of Parliament to enable the trustees to sell and dispose of duplicate books, coins and medals, on what principle do you retain duplicates in the library ? — Where they have been given or bequeathed to the Museum we do not part with them. 459. Then they have obtained a power to sell or dispose of anything in the Museum, which they do not exercise ? —They make it applicable only to things they have purchased. ° 460. Do you think it desirable that they should confine the Act of Parliament to things they have purchased ? — That must be a matter of opinion. 46 1 . Were there any duplicates sold of King George Ill's, library ?■— No not of the library that was given by King George IV. J y ^ 462. The collection now remains intact r — Yes, it remains entire 403, In the Report of the Committee of the House of Commons on Papers relating to the Royal Library which King George IV. presented to the British Museum, dated 20th April 1823, it is stated that the accession of the Roval Library -would occasion about 21,000 duplicates in the old library, but it would not be advisable to part with more than 12,000 ; and it is afterwards said, whether these disposable duplicates should be sold, and the produce applied in diminution of the annual grant of Parliament for the general purposes of the Museum or whether it would be more advisable to make them the foundation of a senarate public library, it may be for the House to consider; does not that Reoort clearly recognise the disposing of the duphcates of the Royal Library ''—No • " that relates to duplicates m our old library, of books which are in our Roval Library. The selection would bp made from the old library of such books as were duplicates of those in the Royal Library^ 464. Then if you had superior copies in your old library, would vou retain them, or the inferior duplicates in the Royal Library ?— We found it necessary after SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 33 after we received the Royal Library to lessen the imagined number of duplicates ; Sir Henry Ellis for the copies in the Royal Library being to a great extent upon large paper, and and the Rev. fine and beautiful copies, it was conceived that the preservation of that library Josiah Forshall. would be better insured bysufiFering the duplicates in our old library to be retained "TI I for the use of the readers ; in some cases, even a second or third copy of the same ^^ book ; and, therefore, that number of duplicates, disposable for sale, which was calculated at 1 2,000, was greatly reduced. 465. Do you conceive that the 47 Geo. HI., which is an Act to enable the trus- tees of the British Museum to exchange, sell or dispose of such parts of the col- lection, and under such restrictions as are therein specified, wouldprevent your disposing of duplicates, if those duplicates should be in the Royal Library, or in any collection that has been bequeathed? — It is necessary to keep the Royal Library distinct from any other. The Report of the Committee of the House of Commons, under whose recommendation it was transferred to us, proposed that it should be kept distinct and entire, and the room which holds that collection was built to measure, to receive the exact number of books, and is filled by them. 466. However inferior those copies might be to those which the Museum might hereafter purchase, you would still feel yourselves bound to retain them upon the shelves of the Museum ? — Undoubtedly. 467. Can you state to the Committee about the average value a volume of the duplicate books sold by the Museum ? — I beg to refer you to Mr. Babpr, who selected them, for an answer to that question. 468. Do you understand that one of the objects of the trustees in desiring that duplicates being in their possession by gift or bequest may always be retained in their possession is to encourage such gifts and bequests from other parties ? — i conceive so. 469. Do you conceive that that intention and that hope may be regarded as ■successfully entertained, bequests and gifts having in consequence been made to the Museum ? — I think so. 470. Do you conceive that persons wrho might have in their possession objects of vertu, or rare books, would be so likely to give them or to bequeath them to the Museum if they felt that, in the next year, such objects or books might he sold ? — Certainly not. 471. At the time when exchanges had been made on the part of the Museum of objects in the possession of the Trustees, or other objects which they might have considered it desirable that the Museum should possess, as, for instance, in the late exchange with a collection at Chatham, has it not been always the rule to inscribe the name of the original donor upon the article received in exchange, or such his gift ; in other words, to preserve perpetually in memory a record of the benefaction ? — I believe so. (By Mr. Forshall.) There has been an exception to never parting with any- thing given or bequeathed to the Museum in the case of perishable! objects, objects of zoology ; duplicates of these have recently been exchanged. 472. With respect to objects of a permanent character, the rule is uniform ? — It is, so far as my recollection extei^ds. 473. (To Sir Henry Ellis.) Do you conceive, then, that it is very desirable, with respect to the wear and tear of books of reference, that the Museum should from that only, independent of any other consideration, have more than one copy, or several copies, of such works ? — Undoubtedly. 474. Have you seen cause to regret, at any period within the last 10 years, the loss of books which the Museum have previously sold as duplicates? — I certainly have felt that it was to be regretted that some duplicates had been sold, but I cannot specify any particular books which attracted my attention ; but I was drawn to the reflection by the very great wear and tear of some works which I saw in the library, and I said to myself, our trustees should be very cautious in future in the selection of works to be sold as dupHcates, or we may have to repurchase books that we have sold. 475. Do you understand the 47 Geo. m. is imperative or permissive ?— Permissive. 476. In other words, that the trustees were fully at liberty, notwithstanding such Act, to retain possession of duplicates or triplicates, or any other number of copies in their possession ? — -Yes. 477. Do you understand that the Museum has at this moment any books with which it could safely part, as the foundation of a second or third library in the .479, F • metropolis?— 34 MINUTES ai EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sit Henry Ellis metropolis ?— I should say, certainly not ; I do not think it is likely they c^uW and the iiev. possess any collection; of duplicates sufficiently extensive to. form the tounaaliaa j mahFonha li. of another library. , j ^ k t ZmZ^,r 478. Has the case ever occurred in which a purchase has been made ot a booK 25 May V835. ^f ^j^j^j^ ^ duplicate had been previously sold ?-I am not prepared to speak to that inquiry. If such a thing has occurred, it must have be.e« rarely. 479. There are many books that you will require duplicates of ?— Y^es. 480. Such books as those who study there are repeatedly askmg tor .-'—Yes. I may mention Dugdale's Monasticon. Mr. BabiBE tells me three copies are in common use ; it is a book of frequent reference ; and I thmk, with respect to lexicons aad dictionaries of high character, we should be very cautious of parting with them. r u u- * 481. But is not the retaining of collections of books, or ot other objects, intact, fatal to any good arrangement or classification of the objects of curiosity or literature in the Museum ?— As long as you can find your books readily, I see no objection. Where a library is frequented by a very large class of readers, as long as you can find your books readily, I think that is the first point to be gained for their advantage. Keeping particular collections together may be serviceable from the juxtaposition of different branches of science. Sir Joseph Banks's library, for instance, is a very complete one of natural history ; you would rather see that library kept together than dispersed through all parts of the general library. • 482. Do you consider, then, that the object of the British Museum is to find a place of safe deposit for collections that may be bequeathed or bestowed, or to form one great collection which shall be beneficial to science and literature? — I think the first object of the Museum is to preserve these collections for posterity. 483. The books are as accessible for consultation, thpugh classed in separate libraries, as if they were all in one ? — Undoubtedly so, 484. And, if accessible for consultation, is the principal object attained? — Yes. 485. May you not, in process of time, have collections and bequests perfectly useless, by preserving donations intact, and thus holding out encouragement to their being presented to the Museum? — I think that the keeping of a single library together, if it is a donation, may be serviceable. Many people have a pardonable vanity in making a bequest, believing that their collections may here- after be kept entire ; perhaps as the only preservation of their name. 486. Assuming it to be the object of the Museum to encourage the vanity of individuals to present donations, it may be a good argument; but assuming the motive to be the forming a great national institution for the encouragement of literature and science, do you consider that it is advisable to keep all these collections perfect and intact? — I think so. Individual vanity often leads a man to bestow on a public library a very valuable collection which he might not otherwise have bestowed. 487. What do you think the best mode of obtaining a great national library or museum; to flatter the vanity of individuals, so as by that means to acquire particular collections, or to devote the national funds gradually and steadily to accumulate all that is worthy of collection in the arts and sciences ? — I do not see why the two may not go hand in hand. 488. Must it not follow that a number of separate individual collectio^is renders any general classification , quite impossible ?— I do not think a general clas^iftqatiqi^ is necessary. 489. Not in the national library ?— A national library must always consis^t of difierent collections, if bequests a,nd donations are brought together. There is the King's Library, which, as I have already mentioned, is to remain distinct ^nd entire. It is a library of 75,ooo volumes, and one of the choipfst collections of literature and science in Europe; and if the direction 9f the Committee of the House of Commons I have referred to is final, must be kept for ever in the room which has been built for it; and very properly so, as a monument for George III. Still, that is an immediate bar to any general cla,ssificatio.n of our whole library. ' 490. Then supposing three individuals were to bequeath three different copies of the Monthly Review, you would keep them for ever on the shelves of the British Museum ?— The Monthly Review is the only complete bibliographical register SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 35 Tegister which we possess for an extensive period of English literature. Two Sir Henry Ellis copies are in constant use in the Museum at this time. and the Uof. (By Mr. Forshall)— i:\xQ Trustees would certainly not retain in their possession -^ """^ Fonhal l. -objects altogether useless to the Museum, which might be advantageously disposed ^ -^ jg„,, of elsewhere. If any contingency of that nature occurred, the trustees would apply the proper remedy for it under the 47 Geo. III. 491. Then if I understand, under the 47 Geo. III. they may, in the opinion iof the trustees, be allowed to dispdse of duplicates, though they might have been bequeathed >by individuals ? — In my opinion, they may ; I cannot answer for the ©pinion of the trustees. ;„.. 492. But hitherto it has been the practice for the trustees so to use the powers of the 47 Geo. III. ? — No ; they have not thought it politic to do so generally, in ■the case of objects bequeathed or presented to them. 493. Then I understand your opinion to be, as respects the Museum, that it is more desirable to preserve the collections intact than to dispose of duplicates generally ? — I think, looking at the state of the Museum collections, and the state of public feeling towards the institution, it is desirable for the present to keep to the principle which has generally been acted upon hitherto. •494. But looking at it as a principle to be acted upon through all time? — It is impossible for me to say that of any principle of this nature. 495. But you would not look to the mere vanity of individuals, but you would trust to the trustees for the time being exercising a sound discretion, both in col- •lecting and disposing of the contents of the Museum ? — Certainly. 496. (To Sir Henry Ellis.) — When the King's Library was presented to the British Museum, thereby depriving the south-western parts of the metropolis of the advantage of a good library, was there anything of very great value there that could not be purchased elsewhere, except in the maps ? — The King's Library was one of very great value. King George III. began to collect a library in the year 1765 ; he laid the foundation of it by the purchase of a library of very eniinent character at Venice belonging to Consul Smith. About the year 1767, two years afterwards, the suppression of the Jesuits' houses began ; their libraries were turned out upon the world, and the King bought some of the greatest raritiies in litera- ture at the smallest price that a collector could expect. 497. Will you mention some of them?— I recollect Sir Frederick Barnard tell- ing me that he bought the 'Florence Homer of 1488, which I believe has formerly brought 120/., for the amount of 10*. 498. You had Homers in the library, I presume, before?— Yes, we have two copies of the Florence Homer. 499. The same edition ? — Yes. 500. Then you have not pointed out any advantage which the British Museum derives from that library ? — I think it is stated in the Report of the House of Commons upon the Royal Library that the duplicates were about 21.000; that the whole library was rather more than 75,000 volumes ; so that at all events we had more than 50,000 volumes which came to us in that library which we had not before. 501. 'Were they not books which might easily have been purchased by the ; trustees elsewhere ? — From my knowledge of the King's Library, I should say, certainly not; and if they were to be purchased, it would be at enormous prices. 502. What was utidetstood to be the commercial value of the books forming the l&te King'George's colitectroft and presented by George IV. ? — The Report from the Committee on the Royal Library states the collection to have cost at least ftota time to time 1*30,000/. ; I should Bay the present money value is at least f2'Do,ooo /. 503; When it is Stated that the south-w6st parts of London were deprived of a library by the removal of the King's collection to the British Museum, are the Committee" to undefstand' that it was, when in the south-west parts of London, a public library, open to the public, or was it a private library, collected by the Riftg as an individual, and kept by him in his own palace for his own use ? — Prin- dipAtty so. I should say, I knew that library for some years, and occasionally went to it. • It was his Majesty's private library. 504., Was it not accessible to literary men ?— Certainly, by the King's leave, wheh he was iin health ,•! and I conclude the librarian sometimes received literary men, either of his acquaintance, or who- were sproperly recommended to him. 4-g. F 2 5^5- Practically 36 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis 505. Practically speaking, could not any literary man of eminence obtain access and the Rev'. to any books he wished r — I should sav, certainly not, except by the private inter- Jostah Fcnhalk £■ r 1.1. vi. • lerence 01 the librarian, 25 May iSq-^ 5°^- ^^^ '* °P^" *° literary men in the sense in which Lord Spencer's library was open to literary men ; in short, could a person obtain access when he chose? — I should think not, unless through the librarian. 507. Then, having stated that the trustees have not exercised the powers of the 47 Geo. III. for the sale of duplicates out of the collections bequeathed to the Museum, will you state whether, in the new buildings about to be erected, pro- vision is made for preserving all these collections separate and distinct? — I do not know whether that has entered into the contemplation of the trustees yet. 508. Do you think it would be desirable to build, in order to carry your prin- ciple into practice, as to preserving collections intact? — No, I do not think it would at all. 509. Would it ndt, in point of fact, be almost fatal to the construction of a good building were you to provide for colleidtions which might from time to time be bestowed, and for keeping them separate and distinct ? — Keeping them separate and distinct, and keeping them in separate and distinct rooms, are two con- siderations. 510. JBut in objects of art or in natural history would you put duplicates in the same room? — No. 511. For instance, if you had half a dozen specimens of carbonate of lime, pre- cisely similar, would you put them one by one, and by the side of the other, and ndt exercise the powers of the Act of the 47 Geo. III., but preserve the six, and not dispose of them because they were bequeathed? — All that must depend upon circumstances. There is no giving a general answer to that. 512. What is the greatest number of duplicates that exist in'the library of any one book ? — I must leave that to be spoken to by the keeper of the printed books, who will of course know the minute details of his particular charge better than I can. 513. I think you stated, that with reference to the books, there were frequently several copies of the same book in use at the same time ? — Yes. 514. Therefore there might be a necessity for keeping duplicate copies of books, when the same reason might not operate for keeping duplicates of crystals or other objects ? — Undoubtedly. I conceive with respect to certain long sets of books, as for instance, the Gentleman's Magazine, it is desirable to keep more than one set; the reference to it is constant. I know that one copy is always kept for immediate reference in the Museum reading-room. 515. But if there are some books of which it is necessary to keep duplicates, there are some which are referred to so seldom, that it is not necessary with irespect to them ? — Certainly, there are some authors, St. Thomas Aquinas,, fqr ' instance, whose works in these times are not in common request. 516. With respect to works of art bequeathed to the Museum, would you be precluded from putting aside inferior works which might be foutid among them? — I believe in all collections inferior works are placed in inferior points of view.' 517. I mean statues, or pictures which are copies of inferior works • should you be precluded from at once putting them away ?— I should think not, provided you did not place them where they would perish. 518. Could you dispose of them?— No, I should think not ; I think the Act of the 47 Geo. ill. gives no power to sell in that case, unless they might come under the meaning of " refuse. . 519. Is it in the power of the trustees to refuse a donation ?— Yes • but I think It IS a power which they would exercise judiciously. I have no doubt there may be instances where they might refuse a donation, as for instance if they had not room for it. ^ 520. Are you aware of the circumstance of any library having been refused ?— JNo libraries; single articles have been refused, 521. Will you state to the Committee how often the trustees have exercised the powers of the 47 Geo. ill. m selling or disposing of duplicate books or other ob- jectsr— I cannot from recollection ; I believe there have been but two sales of duplicate books and two sales of coins since the 47 Geo. ill. 522. When such sales or exchanges take place, are they noticed in the annual Reports to Parliament .?— The produce is brought to account. 523- In SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 37 523. In what year was the sale of the duplicates aweady alluded to in your sir Henry Ellis examination ? — To the best of my remembrance I paid the produce into the bank and the'Rev. the year before last. About 650 /. I think was the produce of the sale of coins ; '^''""'' Forshdl. the Return to Parliament no doubtishows it. ' " 524. Is the money received on account of the, sale ofr duplicate books, carried ^^ ^^ ^^^' •• to the account of the Museum, and stated in the accounts annually presented to Parliament? — I believe so. ' 525. (To Mr. ForshallS) Why was it not done in this case? — I think in the case to which you are alluding, the exchange with the Royal Society, it was not done because, it was considered that the assets of the Museum were not affected by it ; it was an exchange and not a sale. The duplicates were sold on ^.cqpunt of the Royal Society, the Royal Society bearing a part of the expense of the sale. r.. 526. In the accounts presented to Parliament in the year 1 833, under the years 1831 and 1.832, there are sums mentioned as being received by the Museum on account of the sale of duplicate books; why were those sums not inserted in .tjie annual accounts presented to Parliament ? — The trustees would have held it their duty, no doubt, to state to the House of Commons what had taken place if they had parted with any of the national property, but they received what they considered an equivalent. The fact of the exchange is stated in the Estimates for 1 83a, laid before the House of Commons. 527. At what sum were the Arundel manuscripts valued ? — I am not able to state very accurately, but I think at about 3,900/., by Payne and Foss, and at 3,100 /. by Sir Henry Ellis and myself; and the mean of those two sums was taken as the value of the collection. 528. Then by the account presented to Parliament in 1833, it appears there were 1 2,338 volumes sold or parted with, which produced 2,043 ^- ^ 7 *• ? — Yes ; and this amount, together .with 450 /., at which the duplicates transferred to the Royal Society were valued, with 865 /. 15 s. 5 727. You have no other public duties to discharge but those of the offices vou have described?— Nothing that can be considered public. I have had for "the last eight or ten months the distribution of a private charity, for which 1 am allowed 20/. a year; I am entrusted with a considerable sum of money, and I distribute SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 55 I distribute it among certain objects. The business takes up a few hours twice in Rev. J. Fors/iaU. the year. _J 728. Do you consider that the office of keeper of the manuscripts and that of 1 June 1835. secretary can be efficiently filled or the duties efficiently discharged by one person, from your own experience? — Yes, at present; otherwise I should not continue to hold both. 729. Has the assistance given you in the manuscript department been increased since you were appointed to the office of secretary? — Very much. 730. Supposing you were no longer secretary, would the same amount of assist- ance be requisite? — Not quite so great an amount, though I should not be able to do without any individual I have now. The best idea I can give to the Com- mittee is, that services to the amount perhaps of 50 /. a year are rendered by the assistants to the secretary. 731. Then you think that the duties of the office of keeper of the manuscripts ■would not fill up the whole time of any one individual ? — Yes, certainly they might, very well. 732. Then how do you reconcile that answer with your former one, that the two offices, both of them having laborious duties, can be efficiently discharged by one person ? — In this way; although I might fill up my whole time as keeper pf the manuscripts, yet I exercise at present a sufficient superintendence over that department for all important purposes. 733. But the duties then are not all discharged by you, you only superintend them ? — I superintend the whole business of the department, and perform a part myself. I see the greater number of those who come to the Museum for the pur- poses of resear(ih, and have occasion to make a reference to the officer of the department. I have described not aninconsiderable portion of the catalogues now in progress, with my own hand ; I revise the manuscript of the catalogues before it is sent to the printer, and correct the sheets as they are set up ; and I give every direction with regard to the business of the department which appears to me to be necessary. 734. Have you seen a publication by Sir Harris Nicolas, intituled "Observa- tions on the State of Historical Literature," &c. ? — I did see it at the time it was published. 735. Are you acquainted with the strictures he has there made upon the cata- logues of manuscripts in the Museum ? — No, I am not. I dare say I remember the substance of them, though I may not remember the particulars. 736. What is the number of volumes of manuscripts in your care r — About 22,500. 737. Now the work of Sir Harris Nicolas states that the catalogues of the Harleian, Lansdowne, and Cottonian manuscripts are often erroneous and gene- rally unsatisfactory, and that is well known to all who have occasion to consult them ; have you any observation to make upon that remark ? — Yes, I think that it is a very strong expression of opinion. I should be very glad to enter into a detail both of the manuscript collections and also of the state of the catalogues. 738. It is stated in page 75 of that work that the description of all the manu- scripts from No. 5,030 to No. 5,51 1, that is 480 volumes, only occupies six pages r ■ — My impression is that there are no 480 manuscripts which fill so small a space in the printed catalogues as six pages, though I cannot venture to make the asser- tion, after what has been read to me. The latter part of the catalogue of the Harleian manuscripts is certainly more brief than I would wish it to be ; but that catalogue was printed not by the trustees of the British Museum, but by the com- missioners of Public Records, and it was printed more than five-and-twenty years ago, 739. How came the commissioners of Records to print a catalogue of manu- scripts in the British Museum, and why did the trustees delegate that duty to them ? — That is a question which I cannot possibly answer, having had no con- nexion with the Museum at that time. As I stated before, many of the manu- scripts are more briefly described than would be desirable, but at the same time the Committee must not have the impression that this catalogue is essentially a bad catalogue. It is, considering the state of palssographical and antiquarian knowledge at the time it was prepared, a very fair catalogue, and it is as good a catalogue as you have of most foreign collections ; a much fuller and a much better one than you have of the collections in the Bibliothfeque du Roi. The early part of the catalogue of the Harleian manuscripts was made by Mr. Hum- 4'79. H 4 I'^^^^y 56 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev, J. Forshall. plirey Wanley, librarian to the Earl of Oxford, a man eminently qualified for the "~j ~~ employment, and that part is extremely good. 1 June 1835. ;^^^^ gjj. j^j^p^ig Nicolas also states that the defects of the catalogue of the Cottonian manuscripts are of a similar kind, the manuscripts being very imper- fectly described ; is that so ? — I consider the catalogue of the Cottonian manu- scripts to be a very good catalogue upon the whole, but like all other works of that nature, it is capable of improvement. That catalogue was completed by the labour of one individual, the late Mr. Planta, and I consider it is as good a catalogue as the country could then have had, and perhaps as good a catalogue as exists anywhere, considering the extent of the collection, and its nature. 741. Sir Harris Nicolas states that the general index at the end of the cata- logue is extremely incomplete ; is that so 1 — I should not apply those words to it. It may be incomplete, but it is not extremely so in my sense of the word. 742. He gives an example, that the highly valuable chronicle of the abbey of Lanercost, which is in the Cottonian collection, is not referred to in the general index ? — That may be the case. 743. He also states that there are other omissions which might be easily spe- cified ; are you aware of that fact ? — I dare say there may be omissions in it ; there will be in all catalogues. That catalogue was published many years ago, I think in the year 1802. 744. What printed catalogues have you with indexes ? — The catalogues of the Royal collection, of the Harleian collection, of the Cottonian, of the Sloane, of the Lansdowne, and of the Hargrave collections. 745. What printed catalogues have you without indexes ? — We have a cata- logue of the Arundel manuscripts, printed last year. 746. What manuscript catalogues are there with indexes ? — There are none except a brief catalogue of the Burney manuscripts, and o\\e of the charters. 747. What manuscript catalogues are there without indexes ? — There is a partial catalogue of the additional manuscripts, and one of the manuscripts in the library of George III. 748. Have there been, or are there now, manuscript catalogues in the reading- room, without indexes ? — Yes. 749. How many volumes are there of that description?— I can hardly tell you how many volumes ihey fill ; but the manuscripts described in the catalogue to which there is no index in the reading-room, or which are not described at all, extend from 4,100 to about 9,800, so that you may consider them as forming between 5,000 and 6,000 volumes. 750. Then supposing it to be required to search for the name of any particular place or person, for the purpose of discovering whether there are any documents relating to the object of search among the 22,500 volumes of manuscripts in the Museum, how many indexes would it be necessary to refer to, and how many volumes to peruse ?— That depends upon circumstances, but it might possibly be sometimes necessary to refer to most of the indexes which I have mentioned. 751. Would not one general index of places and persons be a great accommo- dation to the readers in the Museum ?— I think a general classed index to all our manuscripts is desirable; but it is a work of so great labour that it could not be accomplished in a few years. T P'^' ■^\'* r* ^^^^'^^i^'ly necessary that such a work should be executed ?— 1 do not thmk it IS essentially necessary. I know of no extensive collection of manuscripts to which there is such an index ; nor did I ever hear that such an index was contemplated except in this country. 753. Have you always been of that opinion ?— I have always been of that opinion. •' 754. Has that been the opinion of the trustees, in reference to such catalogues ? JNo, J believe not. *= ■ ^¥\ ^^! """^ ^ general index of all the collections of manuscripts commenced in 1825, and carried on under your direction from 1827 to 1 833^— Yes under my direction from the beginning of the year 1828. The trustees resolved 'to dis- continue it, I think, in 1831. 756. Were you perfectly satisfied with the gentleman so employed in the index and the manner in which the work was executed, as far as he went ^^— The indi- vidual to whom you refer was, during the greater part of that time, prevented from doing his duty efficiently by the state of his health. 757. But the catalogue was commenced .?— It was commenced 758. Why was it abandoned ?~Because the individual who was employed upon, it SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 57 it was not, as I have stated, efficient; and in the next place, because as he had Re\.J. Furshdl. already gone through those parts of the catalogues which were most perfect, it was better to make our catalogues themselves complete before we attempted ' -^""^ *^35- a general index. In order to an index of this kind, we must have complete and accurate C9,talogues of every manuscript in the Museum. Now the individual who was employed upon it was not quite competent to make a catalogue of manu- scripts. Supposing he had had an accurate and complete catalogue before him, which would not have required any reference to the manuscripts themselves, he might perhaps have been competent to make an index, but he could not read many of the manuscripts, from the state of his eyes, when his labours were drawing towards a close ; and I very Tnuch doubt whether the state of his information was - sufficient to enable him to read them. 759. Why was the general index abandoned? — Because, as I have already said, the first thing to be done in reference to manuscript collections is to make catalogues ; to form a general index is a subsequent business. 760. Is there such a catalogue now in progress ? — Yes. 761. Then the trustees discovered that it was better to complete their cata- logues before they went on with the general index ? — Yes. 762. You presented, I believe, a report to the trustees on the state of the manuscript department ? — I made several reports ; I do not know to which you refer. 763. Are the reports so made shown to the principal librarian ? — Ahvays. 764. And he approves or disapproves of them, as the case may be ? — He makes remarks upon them if he thinks fit. 765. Will there be any objection to produce the report upon this subject of the index to the catalogue ? — I am not aware that there will be. 766. It contains your reason for thinking that the index should be dis- continued until the catalogue was completed ? — I am not certain that it does. 767. It is your present opinion that it is expedient to suspend the completion of the index until you shall have completed the separate catalogues to which such index must refer ? — Undoubtedly. 768. And it was communicated, of course, to the gentleman employed that the trustees had determined to suspend the work upon which he was engaged ? — Yes. 769. What reason was assigned to him for the suspension of the work?. — Ido not recollect. I wrote him a civil letter I have no doubt, but I do not recollect the terms of it. , 770. Was he continued to be employed in making the general catalogue which the trustees are now engaged in ? — No. -71. Will you state why? — I have already stated that I did not consider him competent to read the manuscripts. 772. Has any additional person been employed in the manuscript department since February 1831, to assist in cataloguing the manuscripts ?— rYes, th^re have been \wo or three additional persons since. 773. What part of the catalogue is now complete ? — We have printed during the last year the catalogue of the Arundel manuscripts of 550 volumes, which were received from the Royal Society in the excliange to which reference has been frequently made in the course of the evidence. These manuscripts appeared to be important, and that it was desirable to give the public early information regarding them, and, therefore, the trustees lost no time in ordering a catalogue to be made and published ; it was published last year. We have also undertaken a catalogue of the Burney manuscripts. I think there are 60 or 70 pages of that catalogue printed off, and I hope the whole will be completed and before the public ere the year is terminated. We have also commenced a catalogue of our Oriental manuscripts, and some sheets of that are struck off, and I think, with the present efficiency of the manuscript department, I can pledge myself that, sup- posing we have no extraordinary accessions, in the course of six years from this time the country will have printed catalogues of all the manuscripts now in the Museum. 774. As separate collections ? — Yes. 775. The gentleman alluded to as etnployed in the preparation of this index was Mr. John Millard, I believe ? — Yes. 776. On his leaving the situation, did you present him with any testimonial in his favour, in which you expressed your satisfaction with his .conduct: He 479. I applied 58 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. J. Forshall. applied to me, I think, some time previous to his leaving, to recommend him as : secretary to a club, and at his request I wrote a note, in which, probably, I said 1 June 1835. everything in his favour which I could say with a safe conscience, and perhaps expressed myself satisfied with his conduct, understanding the word in its usual acceptation, not with reference to his quantum of information, or the efficient dis- charge of his duties at the Museum. 777. What was the cost of the work so far as it went upon which he was employed ? — That I am unable to state, but I should suppose it amounted to 1,800/. or Q,ooo/. 778. Which of course must be considered as a useless expenditure ? — By no means. 779. The index being discontinued, and it being necessary hereafter to form a new index to the catalogue when completed, will the labour already expended upon that index be available ? — Certainly, because the parts of the collection in which he had employed himself were those which were most perfectly catalogued. The early part of the catalogue of the Harleian manuscripts was made by Mr. Humphrey Wanley, and Mr. Millard, if I remember, had brought down his index to No. 1,000, or thereabouts, of these manuscripts. I look upon the Hargrave catalogue to require no amendment. That was indexed by Mr. Millard, so also ^ was the Lansdowne catalogue, which is a modern and a good catalogue. 780. Do I understand then by your former answer that the index so far as it has been completed is available for the construction of an index generally, when- ever by authority such work shall be resumed ? — Yes. 781. Who has the charge of the Egerton or Bridgewater collection of manu- scripts ?— I have, with my colleague. 782. Is there any special librarian, or to whom is that custody committed ? — To me. 783.. Is there any special librarian appointed for the Egerton or Bridegwater collection of manuscripts ?~No other than myself and my colleague. 784. Is there not some property left for the payment of a librarian ? — Lord Bridgewater provided for the payment of a librarian. 785. Then who was appointed librarian to receive that salary? — Myself and my colleague. 786. Then you are the librarian? — Yes. 787. What is the salary appointed by Lord Bridgewater's will ?— I think it is the interest of 7,000/., invested in the 3 per cent. Consols ; the interest amounts to 227 /. o*. 6 d. 788. Have you received any additional emoluments, or have your assistants, for cataloguing the manuscripts in the Egerton collection? — No. 789. Is there any printed catalogue of the Arundel manuscripts .?— Yes - I have stated there was one published last year. ' * 790. Who edits that?— I do. 791. Areyou paid for that service? — No. 792. Is there any index to that ?— There is one in manuscript; but it is very mconvenient to multiply indexes beyond what is absolutely necessary and therefore there is no mdex to the Arundel manuscripts printed at present but there wdl be one printed when the Burney manuscripts are completely cata- logued. We shall unite the index to the two catalogues 793. Did you receive any extra emolument for the labour alluded to in editing that work? — JNone of any kind. v-umug 794. Can you inform the Committee what is the expense of printing the volumes of the catalogue of the Arundel manuscripts ?-l could, by ^efe ence to my papers, immediately. Perhaps 500 /. ' cicieuLe 10 795. How many have you given away ?-I cannot from memory state the exact number. Ihe trustees may have given away 50. 796. Will you state to whom they were given'?— Conies of thp Amr, bL MaleT- 7\fr' 'f?' ^? ''-' presented Tti:;' vLrtsZi Holland, Denmark, Bavaria, France, Prussia, Saxony, ferklRts^ luscany Hanover, America, Naples, Wirtemberg, and^ Frankfort Plain copies of the catalogue have been presented to the following trustees • The Archbishop of Canterbury the Lord Chancellor (Brougham), The Speaker (Sir C. M. Sutton), the Bishop of London, Sir John Campbell the Earl of SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 59 of Aberdeen, H. R. H. the Duke of Sussex, H. R. H. the Duke of Glou- Rev. /. ForshaU. cester, Sir Henry Halford, Sir M. A. Shee, Sir Nicholas Conyngh^m Tindal, Sir John Leach, Earl Cadogan, Earl Spencer, the Earl of Hardwicke, Lord ^ J""^ i835- St. Helens, Lord Farnbprough, the Duke of Portland, Earl Cawdor, the Marquess Camden, Earl of Harrowby, Earl of Eldon, The Mar'quess of Lansdowne, the Duke of Hamilton, Sir Robert Peel, the Rev. Arthur Annesley, George Booth Tyndale, Esq., Peregrine Edward Townley, Thomas Andrew Knight, Esq., Henry Bankes, Esq., Alexander Baring, Esq., the Right Hon. Thomas Grenville, the Lord Stowell and Davies Gilbert, Esq. Plain copies have also been presented to the following officers and assistants: Sir Henry Ellis, Mr. ForshaU, Mr. Baber, Mr. Konig, Mr. Hawkins, Mr. Brown, Mr. Carlisle, Sir Frederick Madden, Mr. Cary, Mr. Children, Mr. Barnwell, Mr. Armstrong, Mr. Glover, Mr. Panizzi, and Mr. Ottley : to Mr. Holmes, Mr. Stevenson, Mr. Coxe, and Mr. Richards. The total number of copies given away appears to be 75. 797. Have there been any sold? — I have not yet had an account from the booksellers of the sale, but some copies of it have been sold. I know that seven copies have been sold by one bookseller. Veneris, 5° die Junii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. The Rev. Josiah ForshaU, called in ; and further Examined. 798. REFERENCE was made at your last examination to some passages in a pamphlet written by Sir Harris Nicolas. In the first passage cited to you, it was stated that 480 manuscripts in the Harleian collection, numbered from 5,030 to 5,51 o,^ occupied in the printed catalogue no more than six pages ; you gave the Committee to understand that you had never examined into the truth of that statement, and that therefore, upon a general impression, ypu could not venture to contradict it. Since the last meeting of the Committee have you made- any inquiry into the matter ? — I have. Sir Harris Nicolas is a gentleman so conver- sant with manuscripts and their catalogues, and so frequeritly uses those in the Museum, that I was very reluctant to call in question a statement made by so good an authority, especially when it received confirmation from the manner in which it was brought forward by the Committee ; but the representation, perhaps it will be recollected, excited my surprise. I have since examined the catalogue, and beg to lay before the Committee the volume which contains a description of the manuscripts referred to. It will be found that the manuscripts occupy not six but thirty-two pages. The first manuscript, No. 5,030, is described on page 241, and the last manuscript in the series. No. 5,510, is described on page 273. I beg, however, to observe that the merit of a catalogue of manuscripts cannot be judged of by the space which a particular number of manuscripts occupy. There are cases in the catalogue now before the Committee where lOO volumes might with sufficient amplitude be described in less than half a page. If the Committee w^ll turn to page 515 of the same volume, they will find a series in manuscript of the rolls and journals of the Houses of Parliament, ^^hich rolls and journals fill 99 manuscripts. These, I conceive, might be described in six lines, it being sufficient for every purpose of reference and research to state that the rolls and journals extend from such a date to such a date. On the other hand, if the Committee refer to page 256 of the first volume of this catalogue, they will observe the manuscript, No. 433, the contents of which are described with such minuteness that the description extends from page 256 to page 311, filling no less than 1 1 2 columns. This description was drawn up by Mr. Humphrey Wanley, with whom, in point of antiquarian knowledge and accuracy, I should not think for a moment of putting myself in comparison, but I esteem the manu- script of so much importance to the illustration of the reigns of Edward V. and Richard ill., that shortly after I became keeper of the manuscripts I drew up, partly in my own hand and partly by the assistance of a clever attendant, a sup- plementary description of the contents of this very manuscript, and the original matter and the supplement together fill no less than 431 pages ofwriting. 479. I 2 ~ But Hev. J. ForshaU. 5 June i835.' 6o MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. J. ForshaU. But lest it should be imagined that I am taking advantage of some particular in- -* — stances. I have caused, since the Committee last met, a careful calculation to be made 5 June 1835. of tjjg gp^j,g occupied by the printed matter of the Harleian catalogue, and also by that of the printed matter of the great catalogue of the manuscripts in the Biblio- thfeque du Roi at Paris. I must premise to the observations I am about to make, that in the R,eport made in 1833 by the Board governing the Royal Library at Paris, where imperfections, defects, and wants of various kinds are pretty largely enumerated, (a subject to which I shall probably have an opportunity of referring in detail before the labours of the Committee terminate,) I find this catalogue mentioned apparently as tolerably perfect, and as not requiring, except with regard to the Indian manuscripts, much amplification or amendment. The Harleian manuscripts, 7,639 in number, fill in their descriptions and indexes four volumes, containing together 2,449 P^g^s in folio. This gives an average of little more than three manuscripts to a page. The 16,355 manuscripts described in the catalogue of the French King's Library also fill four volumes in folio, containing together 2,468 pages, being, upon an average, nearly seven manuscripts in a page, so that the comparison is greatly on the side of the Harleian catalogue. But further, the printed matter in a single page of the Harleian catalogue is to the the printed matter in a page of the French King's catalogue as 70 to 33. And therefore, on the whole, the Harleian catalogue, in respect of the fullness of the descriptions, is to the French catalogue something like five to one ; or, in other words, the Harleian manuscripts are described five times as fully as those in the French King's Library. 799. A passage was cited in the same pamphlet, referring to the Chronicle of the Abbey of Lanercost ; have you made any subsequent inquiry upon that head ? — I have ; but in order to put the Committee fairly in possession of the facts necessary to elucidate the evidence I gave before them upon this point at their last sitting, I ought to enter into it at some length ; but as it appears to be the wish of the Committee to postpone any further examination into the state of the manuscript catalogues of the British Museum as connected with the evidence already given, I most cheerfully defer to that wish. I merely beg they will bear in mind that I have several explanations to offer with reference to the three heads, of examination which arose out of Sir Harris Nicolas's pamphlet. 800. You have informed the Committee that the question founded on the pamphlet of Sir Harris Nicolas produced surprise in your mind ; are you aware that the pamphlet- was published in 1830? — Yes. 801. You stated also in your former examination that you were acquainted with the pamphlet.?—! believe I stated that I had seen it at the time it was published. 802. Were you previous to the last day's examination intimately acquainted with the contents of that pamphlet.? — No, not intimately acquainted. 803. Have you recently had an opportunity, or found it convenient to examine any part of the contents of that pamphlet?— I do not think I have seen the pamphlet, except as to the passages placed before me by the Committee, since its first publication. eum; 804. Were you aware, however, that it contained strictures upon the Mus — I was aware that it contained some. 805. Did you or any other officer of the Museum, think it expedient to correct the impression which these strictures were likely to make in the public mind ?— 1 did not ; and, I believe, no other officer did. And here the Committee will be so good as to grant me indulgence to make one remark. Having been led by a sense of public duty to impu|n a statement put forward by the Committee on the authority of Sir Harris Nicolas, I am naturally anxious that my observations should not be misunderstood. I speak most sin- cerely when I say that I believe that gentleman to be a man of great natural endowments, of extensive information, and indefatigable zeal, and that I think the country IS indebted to his public-spirited exertions for an increased activity in many branches of our national history and antiquities. I owe an apology to Sir Hams Nicolas for thus publicly expressing any opinion whatever reSardiL him A witness has no right to speak either in terms of praise or of centure of those whose conduct, reputation or merits are npt judicially under investigation And i beg the Committee not to make any inference whatever from the future silence 1 -ihall observe ; I shall endeavour to repress every opinion, sentiment and feeling regarding SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 61 regarding individuals, however strong may be my admiration of their talents, or Rev. J. Forshall. however deep my reverence of their character. 806. I think you stated that you were mainly instrumental in making the ^ ^""® ^^35- return to Parliament in the year 1 833, containing a general account of all the sums of money received and expended on account of the British Museum, &c.? — At the time the Order of the House of Commons was brought to the Museum, the accountant, whose duty it would have been to enter into all the details of that return, was ill of a fever, and he was confined to his Jied, I beHeve, during the whole period of making up the return, or at least the greater part of it, so that the duty of entering into these details was transferred to me ; and if it should appear to the Committee that there are any discrepancies in the return, they will perhaps allow what I have said to be some apology for them. The person who was accountant at the time that return was made is since dead, but the present accountant is in the room, and will answer any questions that may be put to him. 807. Is there any annual report of the receipt and expenditure of the British Museum before the year 1811 ? — I think that is the earliest printed. 808. That is the earliest printed report, but I presume there are accounts in existence in the British Museum previous to the year 1811 ? — There are accounts, but I am not aware that there are Accounts in the same form with those now laid before Parliament in existence previous to that time. 809. But regular accounts were kept by the. trustees of the money received and expended ? — Yes, most certainly. 810. Can you state why they were not printed previous to that time? — No. 811. Is the annual report of the receipts and expenditures ever audited.? — Yes, the annual account is examined and audited. 812. By whom? — By the trustees themselves. 813. Who are the trustees that perform that duty? — The sub-committee of finance. 814. Who are the members of the sub-committee of finance.? — The present sub-committee of finance consists of the Bishop of London, Lord Farnborough, Lord Ashburton, Sir Robert Peel, Sir Robert Inglis, and Mr. Tyndale. 81,5. Why do not, the auditors sign their names to the accounts ?— They do sign their names to those accounts which they audit, in the strictest sense of that word, namely, the Expenditor's accounts, but not to the Parliamentary accounts ; it is the duty of the accountant to prepare those. 816. How is the annual account authenticated as correct, independently of the signature of the accountant ? — By no other means. 817. Do the auditors go throilgh all the items, and compare the orders for expenditure with the vouchers ?-.^ — So far as the expenditor's accounts are con- cerned they do, and that most fully; but with regard to all the other accounts, the drafts are given in, considerable sums, and those drafts are signed by the trustees themselves, and are in point of fact audited by the chairman of the meeting, who attaches his signature to the account of these drafts. 818. How many trustees are required to sign a draft? — Three. 8ig. Who are the trustees who usually discharge that duty? — Sometimes one trustee and sometimes another, but there are not above seven or eight who com- monly sign the drafts. 820. Who is responsible for the accuracy of the accounts presented to Pailia- ment? — The accountant. 821. I understood you to say you superintended the preparation of the account presented in the year 1833? — Yes. 822. Is it customary to debit the Museum account in the annual report with all the special as well as the annual grants by Parliament? — No. 823. Will you inform the Committee why the special grants are not included? — Because the money never comes into the hands of the trustees of the British Museum. 824. But the produce of the money does? — Yes; but that produce and not the money is given us by the Treasury. 82.5. Then I am to understand that there is ho general account kept at the Museum of all the sums expended on the Museum, and of all the sums received ? — Not of all the sums expended on the Museum, but of all the sums expended on the Museum by the trustees, and of all the sums received by them. S26. Independently of the grants of Parliament, can you state to the Com- I q mittee 62 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. J. Forshall. mittee from whence the Museum draws any income for its general purposes ? — From the dividends on 30,000 /. Reduced Annuities, amounting to 900 /. a year, 5 June 1835. £j.Qj^ ^ p^j.(. ^f ^jjg dividends on 12,972/. 155., in the 3 per Cents., bequeathed by Lord Bridgewater, from the rent of a small estate bequeathed by Lord Bridge- water, and from the sale of its publications. 827. Will you state to the Committee in detail the publications sold by the Museum?— To begin with the department of manuscripts, there are the cata- logues of the Hargrave manuscripts, and of the Arundel manuscripts. In the department of printed books, the catalogue of the general library, the catalogue of the geographical collections in the King's Library, and the Fac Simile of the Alexandrian manuscript; and in the department of antiquities, the catalogue of the Anglo-Gallic coins, the catalogue of Mr. Payne Knight's coins, and what is called the Gallery of Antiquities, There is also the Synopsis. 828. Will you state the sums received on account of each of these publications respectively in the years 1833 and 1834? — I am not prepared to do that at present, as the necessary books and papers are not here, but I shall be able to do so on a future occasion. 829. Are you aware whether any collection of manuscripts which formerly belonged to Sir Godfrey Webster have lately been refused by any of the officers of the Museum when offered to them for sale? — I have had very frequent conver- sations with the present proprietor of those manuscripts as to the purchase of them for the Museum. My attention has been called to those manuscripts for perhaps two or three years last past. I have declined their purchase at the price demanded for them. 830. You have stated to the Committee that you are keeper of the manuscripts, secretary of the Museum, and chaplain of the Foundling Hospital ? — Yes. 831. Will you state to the Committee what portion of the day is actually occu- pied by you in the discharge of your duty as keeper of the manuscripts ?-^That varies very much at different periods of, the year. During the autumn, bv far the greater part of my time is given to my duties as keeper of the manuscripts, ■ but during two or three months in the busiest time of the spring, perhaps one- half of my time may be given to the business of the secretary, or perhaps not so much as that. The duties of secretary are very uncertain as to the times when they arise. It may happen that there are two or three great purchases to be made by the Museum at one moment, and in that case a very considerable portion of my time is necessarily taken up in attending to the business arising out of the negotiations. 832. Will you now state to the Committee what duties you are called upon to perform as chaplain to the Foundling Hospital, and what portion of your time is occupied in the discharge of those duties? — My prescribed duty as chaplain of the Foundling Hospital, according to the written instructions given to me at the time I was elected, are to read prayers in the chapel of the Hospital on Sunday morn- ing and Sunday evening, on the mornings and evenings of Good Friday and Christmas-day, and of any fast or thanksgiving days ordered by proclamation, ' and also to baptize the children of the Hospital when they are presented to me ; but with respect to that last duty, I have to observe, that during eight years for which I have been chaplain to the Hospital I have had but two, or three at the most, infants brought to me for baptism, except on a Sunday morning. Those are my prescribed duties, but I feel it incumbent on me as chaplain to the Hos- pital to catechise the children, and to prepare them for confirmation, and for the first receiving the sacrament of the Lord's Supper," and to give' such other religious advice as a clergyman would do to the young people of his parish ■ but that instruction has been chiefly given, because it can be most conveniently given on the Sunday afternoon, when all the senior children can be easily collected together, smce on the week days there are many of the oldest and strongest of them employed in the menial occupations of the place. 833. Have you any weekly duty to discharge at the Foundling Hospital ?— I have no prescribed duty on the week days, as I have already stated ; but I have sometimes, for instance in the case of a confirmation approachino- gone to the Foundling Hospital for the purpose of instructing the children o°n week days • but I have always endeavoured to do it, and generally successfully endeavoured to^do It, on holidays at the Museum, such as the Easter and Whitsun weeks which fortunately happen at a time when the catechising at the Hospital can be most efficiently administered, confirmations being usually after Whitsuntide. I ought SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 63 I ought also to add that I read a lecture to the children and household once a Rev. J. ForshaU. a week during the greater part of Lent. I have always most conscientiously . endeavoured to give the whole time I ought to give to the duties of the 5 June 1835. Museum. Besides, the Committee will perhaps allow me to observe that a verv considerable portion of my evenings and of my Saturdays, which I am not bound to give to the Museum, have been devoted to its service ever since I came there. 834. Do you ever find your duties as keeper of the manuscripts and your duties as secretary clash? — I am obliged frequently, at this time of the year, to defer some of my employments as keeper of the manuscripts, in consequence of the pressure of business arising from the secretaryship ; but they are employ- ments which can be deferred without the least injury to the establishment; namely, the revision and correction of the manuscript catalogues, and the com- pilation of those catalogues, which may be as well done at one time of the year as another. It is a rule with me to attend first to that which is the most pressing and the most urgent. 835. Can you state, then, that the interruptions to which you are liable while discharging the duties of either of the offices alluded to, that of secretary and keeper of the manuscripts, are not such as to prevent the successful and speedy completion of the catalogue of the manuscripts ? — Yes.; these interruptions are not such as to prevent either the successful or speedy completion of the catalogues. 836. Do you mean to say, if you were solely keeper of the manuscripts, that the catalogue of the manuscripts would proceed at no quicker rate ? — I think the catalogues would not, or but in a trifling degree, with my present establishment. 837. What additional establishment should you require if you were only keeper of the manuscripts, in order to expedite the completion of the catalogues ? — None whatever. In my previous answer I meant to imply that my present establishment was equal to the requirements of the Museum. 838. What additional establishment, in point of qualification, do you think ■would be requisite for making the catalogue advance more rapidly, provided you were only keeper of the manuscripts ? — The more expert the establishment, the more rapidly would the catalogues advance, because there would be less super- intendence required. 839. 1 hen it you were solely keeper of the manuscripts, and had no other duties to discharge, the cataloguing of the manuscripts would advance more rapidly than it now does ? — I do not perceive the exact force and inference of this question and those immediately preceding it; but I answer, yes, to a small extent, just so far as the actual labour and time which in that case I might be tempted to employ in describing the manuscripts go ; not, so far as my superintendence is involved in the question, I use the word tempted, because I believe firmly that if I could make an accurate calculation of the time and, labour which 1 have devoted to the duties of the manuscript department since I first came to the Museum, it would amount to considerably more than that which I was bound to give, and for which I have been paid. 84.0. Can you superintend all the work that can be done by the present number of assistants ? — Yes, I can. 841. Have the offices of secretary and keeper of the manuscripts been held by one person before ? — Yes, by Sir Henry Ellis. 842. At the time Sir Henry Ellis was secretary and keeper of the manuscripts were the duties as onerous, and the manuscripts as numerous as they now are ? — The duties, I think, of keeper of the manuscripts might be considered nearly as onerous then as they are now. 843. Has there been any addition to the manuscript department since Sir Henry Elhs's time?— Great additions; but I would make a distinction between additions and accumulations of business. I think there is no greater accumula- tion or arrear of business now than when Sir Henry Ellis quitted the department, perhaps not so great. 844. Are not the numbers of persons using the manuscripts much more nume- rous than they were ? — Yes. 845. Does not that necessarily increase the duties and responsibility of the keeper of the manuscripts ?— To a limited extent ; but that extent must depend, as in all other establishments, on method, and on the arrangements with regard to the subordinate assistants and attendants. • ' /- mi 479. I 4 ^46. Then 64 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev J Forshall. 846. Then I understand you to say, that in future it will not be necessary to J have two officers in the Museum, that of keeper of the manuscripts and that ot 5 June 1835. secretary, but they may be united successfully in one ?— I thmk their duties may be efficiently discharged by one person at present; I do not speak ot any distant future. The whole business of the Museum, and the whole estabhshment, have been increasing very rapidly of late years. But with respect to my duties as keeper of the manuscripts, I have put the department into that state of prepara- tion and efficiency, that I look forward to a decrease rather than an increase of anxiety and trouble. If the Committee wish, I will enter into a little explanation on that head. 1 • 1 1 j A catalogue of the Oriental manuscripts in the Museum, which had never been attempted, with any accuracy at least, before my time, I have executed not to an inconsiderable extent, with my own hand, so that we have now a catalogue, much more imperfect certainly than I could desire, but still a catalogue of almost every Oriental manuscript in the collection. There may be some few manuscripts remaining undescribed, but these are in the Indian dialects, or in languages with which we are not conversant. The trustees have begun to print this catalogue of the Oriental manuscripts, commencing with those -in the Syriac language ; and I beg to lay before the Committee some of the proof sheets, which will enable them to judge, even from the bare inspection of those sheets, that there has been a good deal of trouble in bringing the work forward to its present point. The arrangement of the mere typographical part of a' catalogue of Oriental manu- scripts is a work of great nicety and tediousness ; and I really believe that two or three months of the last" summer were taken up in getting the print- ing press, and what immediately relates to it, for this Syriac catalogue into proper condition. Now, that is a labour which I shall never have to undergo again. ' Further, I have now in my department assistants who are competent to dis- charge their duties. Dr. Rosen, for example, who assists me in the Oriental catalogue, is professor of Oriental languages in the University of London, and one of the best qualified persons to give such assistance in this country ; and I think that in future we shall go on with three times the rapidity in that cata- logue that we have done, and with less than one-third of the anxiety and trouble to myself. The Committee will also allow me to put before them the catalogue of the Arundel manuscripts, which were received in exchange from the Royal Society. These manuscripts are troublesome to catalogue ; several of them are Greek manuscripts, and Greek printing is exceedingly troublesome ; many of them are fragments, many of them works of obscure authors of the middle ages. I have revised every word in that catalogue myself, and for which I am indebted to the information and attention of the gentlemen who assisted me, it is as fair a cata- logue as you could reasonably expect. I would refer to a further instance, to show that in future my labour and anxiety will be less, and the superintendence necessary will be less. The catalogue of the Burney manuscripts is another troublesome undertaking which I have entered upon, and there are at this moment somewhere about 60 or 70 folio pages of that catalogue printed. It is entirely corrected and revised by my own hand. Many of these manuscripts are Greek, and the chief part of our Greek manuscripts which were not previously described are in these two col- lections, the Arundel and Burney. We shall go on with greatly increased rapidity when we come to the additional manuscripts, for they chiefly relate to English literature. The description of such is much more easy, not only from the nature of the subject, but because it is given in English, not in Latin, and most of us do not write Latin with as much facility as we do English. I beg also to state that the young men, assistants in my department, had all of them, to a greater or less extent, to be instructed in their duties, most of them to be trained up to the reading of manuscripts, which can only be acquired by patience and experience. Those young men are now greatly more efficient than when they first entered the department, and, therefore, on this account again my future labours will be less than they are now. 847. From your experience in cataloguing manuscripts, do you think any better arrangement can be made as to the number of officers in that department ? — I think not, taking a comprehensive view of the subject. 848. Was the catalogue of .Oriental manuscripts of which you have spoken composed SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 65 composed before or after you were secretary of the Museum 1 — Partly before and Rev. J. ForshaU. partly after, but I think chiefly after. - 849. And you conceive that the preparation of that catalogue and the other 5 J«ne 1835. .catalogues to which you have alluded, and the difficulties and the labours of which ypu have spoken, do not at all interfere with the proper discharge of the duties of the office of secretary? — I conceive not. Both offices are, I hope, discharged efficiently; if they were not, I should feel it my duty to make , a representation to the trustees upon' the subject, in order that 1 might give up one of them or have more assistance. I have always found the trustees willing in- stantly to adopt any plans which' I could show to be for the improvement and greater efficiency of the Museum, especially when they related to my own par- ticular department or duties, and if I felt that any additional assistance or other alteration would enable me to discharge the duties of either of the offices I hold more efficiently than at present, I should go at once to the trustees and ask for their interference. 850. How do you reconcile that with your answer to the previous question, that the duties of the two offices were perfectly compatible, though those duties had, by your own admission, considerably increased ? — I do not perceive any discrepancy between the answers. 851. You have more assistants in the manuscript departifient at this time than any pr&ceding keeper of manuscripts ? — Certainly, several more. 852. You have also, I believe, more assistance in the secretarial department than any preceding secretary ?— ^-Yes. 853. Is not that somewhat inconsistent with the statement, that two offices can conjointly be filled with advantage by one person ? — By no means. 854. Would it not lead to this, that were the duties to increase to a degree in which one person should find it perfectly impossible to discharge them, that then assistance must be given to |him to enable him to do it ? — I do not see the in- ference ; I should say in the case put to me, that the two offices must be separated immediately. 855. Then could you without the additional assistance you have had granted to you in both your departments have continued to discharge the duties of both? — No, nor the duties of either perhaps, with proper economy of the public money. Supposing, for instance, I were only secretary, and had no assistance whatever in that office, a great deal of the work of the secretary might be more economi- cally done by persons of inferior acquirements to myself; the mere transcribing of letters and the sealing and folding them, for example, and the transcribing the minutes, and preparing returns and accounts, all which belongs to the office of secretary, must be ,done by the secretary himself ; but I have always thought it an economy of the public money not to waste my own time in such occupations, but to confine myself to those higher descriptions of duty to which I was competent. 856-. But has the expenditure upon the office of secretary been equally econo- mised 1 — Certainly ; I think so. 857. The salary remains the same ? — Yes, but the duties are increased. 858. And additional assistance has been given ? — Yes, to a limited extent, as I stated in my last day's evidence, but not in proportion to the increase of the duty. 859. Does the increase of assistance in each or either of the offices which you hold arise from want of your personal exertion ? — No ; not at all. 860. Are the duties you perform as secretary and keeper of the manuscripts duties of superintendence or of immediate and personal occupation ? — They are of both descriptions. 861. The direct duties, then, are not so extensive as to preclude the possibility of your performing them with justice to the public ?— Not at present ; but looking to the very rapid increase of the collections of the Museum, and of all business connected with it, I do not say that it may not be fitting at some period, perhaps not very remote, to ma,ke some alterations in regard to these offices ; but I am quite sure that whenever that opportunity does occur, the trustees will do their duty ; and I beg leave to add, that a fitting opportunity can only be judged of with reference to many particular considerations, which it would be improper and inexpedient for me to enter .into here. j i, 862. In reference to what you stated relating to the Syriac, Greek and other catalogues, I wish to ask whether the names of the gentlemen who composed 479. K • them 66 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE ^ Rev. J. Forsball. them are affixed in any way to the book, in order to give to the public a guarantee that they are authentic ?— Yes, my name is affixed to all catalogues published 5 June 1835. under my superintendence, and I hold myself responsible for their accuracy and sufficiency. , 863. Is that the case with reference to other catalogues which you have not superintended ? — Yes, it always has been. 864. Who has the appointment of the assistants in your department ? — The appointment to all offices in the Museum is' in the Three Principal Trustees. 865. Who recommends the assistants in your department to the principal trustees ? — In vacancies that have occurred in my department since I have been secretary, the Archbishop of Canterbury has encouraged me to lay before him the whole circumstances of the case. The Committee will recollect that it is my duty, by the statutes of the Museum, to point out to the Principal Trustees the necessary quahfications for every office that becomes vacant, and the Archbishop of Canterbury has always encouraged me to be particularly explicit upon that head ; and he has frequently permitted me to lay before him the names of such persons as I know to have the requisite qualifications for the peculiar duties of my ^own department. The range of persons well qualified for many offices in the Museum is not extensive. 866. Then, in fact, you recommend the subordinate assistants in your depart- ment to the Archbishop of Canterbury? — £ do not say soj that would be a wrong expression ; but I say that I never knew the Principal Trustees make an appointment, either in my department or in the Museum generally, until the Archbishop of Canterbury had permitted me to speak my mind freely with regard to the qualifications necessary for the discharge of the office, and also to lay before his Grace all that I knew, upon good authority, with regard to the qualifications of those who appeared to be candidates for it. 867. You are accustomed, then, to speak to the Archbishop of Canterbury, as you state that it is your duty to point out the qualifications which a person ought to possess to fill the vacant offices in your department, and generally in all departments of the Museum ? — Yes ; I have frequent personal communications with his Grace. 868. Now, at the time you were made keeper of the manuscripts had you the requisite knowledge to read with facility the various manuscripts that must come under your attention, with a view to form a catalogue ? — When I was made keeper of the manuscripts, certainly. . 86g. When you were appointed keeper of the manuscripts, you would have found no difficulty in deciphering a manuscript of the reign of King John, or any manuscript anterior to the time of Elizabeth ? — No. 870. I understand you to say that you are not only responsible in form for every page of a catalogue that is printed, but each page goes through your own revision ?— Yes, it does ; a very careful and thorough revision. 871. I believe the qualifications requisite for a good reader of manuscripts in general are very peculiar ?— Yes, they are peculiar; because, in the first instance, the person must understand the language in which the, manuscripts are written, and in the next place, he must understand the several abbreviations and contrac- tions, which have been in use in all ages and countries more or less, but which are very abundant indeed in European manuscripts of the 13th, 14th and 1 5th centuries. 872. But beyond these qualifications, is it not necessary, to make a good catalogue, that a gentleman should be acquainted generally with the literature of the language, and also the history of the nation with which it is" connected that he may be able to observe what is most worthy of note to guide any person who would consult the catalogue ?— Undoubtedly, to give it its true importance ■ but I understood that the question previously put to me referred to the mere readina: of manuscripts. ° 873. How do you secure to the Museum the best quahfied persons to she assistance in your department when a vacancy occurs ?— I generally take that course which I think a prudent man would take with regard to any assistance he wanted in his own private aflFairs ; which is, to make as extensive inquiries as I possibly can among my friends, and those who are acquainted with the subject as to where I shall find a fit person. But with respect to most offices in the Museum, there is little necessity for any such inquiry. The very vacating of an office SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 67 office of any importance gives sufficient publicity to ensure a large field of -Rew. J. Forshdi- candidates. - - 874. Do you know Mr. Thorpe, who is a Saxon scholar? — Yes, I do. 5 June 1835. 875. Did he translate Rask's Saxon Grammar ? — Yes. 876. Is he a man distinguished by his knowledge of Saxon literature ? — Yes, • I think he is a man much distinguished as a Saxon scholar. 877. Did Mr. Thorpe ever apply to be employed in your department?— Never, so far as I recollect. 878. Not during the time you have been keeper of the manuscripts ? — Never, I believe. 879. When you wanted an assistant have you ever applied to Mr. Thorpe? —No. 880. Is he not a gentleman whose learning would be very desirable in your department ? — I think" he would be useful there, as I have no doubt he would make himself in any situation where he might be placed. 881. Has no vacancy for an officer occurred in your department since your appointment ? — None for an officer, except the one made by myself. 882. Did you when you rose from being assistant-keeper of the manuscripts make any application to Mr. Thorpe ? — No ; nor was I secretary at that time. 883. Then it is in your function of secretary that you hold communication with the Archbishop of Canterbury ? — Yes. 884. Is the salary given to the assistants in your department such as to ensure the procuring of the best qualified persons for-the duties they have to discharge ? —I hope to see them better paid. I do not think any of the officers of the Museum are too well paid. 885. Do you think the salaries are such as to induce men of learning and ability to apply for situations there ? — I believe the present officers to be men of learning and ability. In public establishments there is evil to be apprehended from paying too largely, as well as from paying too meanly. If officers are ex- travagantly paid, there is a danger of undue influence with regard to the appoint- ments ; if they are only paid liberally, every good purpose is answered. 886. Do you think they are liberally paid in the Museum? — No, I think not. 887. Is it your opinion that the Country ought to bestow more liberal grants, for the purpose 6f advancing the salaries of the assistants in your department, or increasing the salaries of the officers and servants of the Museum ? — It is my opinion that the 'country ought to bestow, and would very wisely bestow, much larger grants on the Museum than at present ; and if that were the case, I do, not doubt that every person in the establishment would be more liberally paid. 888. Do you mean by being more liberally paid, that they would be paid more in conformity with what they' ought to be paid for the duties they have to discharge ? — Yes, and in conformity with what I think they ought to be paid, with reference to an increased utility to the public on their part. 889. Has there been an increase of assistants in other departments pro- portioned to the increase in the number of assistants in your department ? — No, not of assistants. There has been an increase of assistants both in the depart- ment of printed books and in the department of natural history, but not equal to the increase in the department of manuscripts. The reason is, that the de- partment of manuscripts when I first came to it had a very incompetent esta- blishment in point of number. If the Committee desire, I have no objection to go into a detailed statement of the relative duties and force of the several depart- ments in the Museum, from which they would see that the duties of the manu- script department' generally are very nearly as onerous, if not in some respects more so, than the duties of any department in the Museum, and that its expense is by no means disproportioned to the services required from it. 890. Take now the department of which Mr. K<3nig is at the head ; do you conceive that that department has been furnished with adequate assistants for the labours imposed upon the principal of the department? — I have already stated, in the evidence given before the Committee at their last meeting, that the depart- ment of natural history has not had the assistance generally which I should otherwise have desired to see bestowed upon it, on account of the limited space in the Museum buildings for the exhibition of its collections. 891. As a m9.tter pf fact,, has not the head-keeper of the mineralogical depart- ment been obliged to write with his own hand the labels, and affix them to the different minerals ? — He has not been obliged to do so. ' • 479. - IS. 2 892- Has 68 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. J. Forshall. 892. Has he not done so, in point of fact?— I believe he usually does so ; but he does this by choice. I have suggested to him on one or two occasions the 5 June 1835. willingness with which the trustees would certainly give him any such assistance as he might require for that purpose. He preferred, however, to do the work himself, stating that it was absolutely necessary that he should write out in rough the technical description of the minerals, even if it were copied after, and that, with very little additional trouble, he could write out the description at once on the label to be affixed to the minerals and exhibited, which he does with remarkable neatness. 893. Has he ever applied for any additional assistance in his department ? — No, so far as I recollect. 894. Supposing he had so applied, and his application had been granted, would he have had to appoint those assistants, or must they have been appointed by the Principal Trustees, under your recommendation ? — Undoubtedly he would have been consulted as to the qualifications of the individuals to be employed under him. The appointments, I have already stated to the Committee, are in the three Principal Trustees, and the course generally taken with respect to those assistants, of whom, I presume, the Committee are inquiring, is this : that on a vacancy occurring, I, as secretary, consult in the very first instance with the officer of the department, and ask him what are the particular duties of the place, and whether he knows any individual whom he conceives to be particularly well qualified for it ; and I make known all he states to the Archbishop of Canterbury, and through his Grace to the other Principal Trustees. 895. In stating your preceding answer, you let fall the expression, that in the event of a vacancy occurring, you should think it your duty to give every officer fair information ; will you explain what you mean by that? — I meant that in case, from any circumstance, I had previous information to the officer presiding over a department of the probability of a vacancy in it, I should give him all the notice that I thought might be conducive to the appointment of a proper person, and to the public service. 8.g6. But suppose the officer had in his eye persons whom he thought perfectly quahfied, should you recommend those persons on his responsibility to the trus- tees, or should you allow what you conceive your own responsibility to interfere, and recommend independently of him ? — I should not allow my responsibility to interfere any further than this : there might be a case, which however has never occurred in my experience, where I thought the officer was decidedly wrong in his selection ; in that case, I should feel myself bound to state most fully to the Principal Trustees his notions of the qualifications of the individual he wished to recommend, the name of that individual, and everything relating to him, though I might feel it incumbent upon me to qualify the statement by a representation of facts within my own knowledge. 897. In the event of such a case occurring, would the head of the department from whom you differed in opinion have an opportunity of maintaining his own opinion and views before the trustees ? — I have no doubt that he would, because the Archbishop of Canterbury would, immediately on the representation I have supposed, send for that officer, and have a personal communication with him. 898. But in the case of Mr. Kdnig, I understand you to say that he has not made any representations to you of the want of assistance in his department ? I do not recollect that he has ever done so. 899. And if he has written the labels of every specimen within the trays of the inineralogical gallery, he has done so of his own free will? Yes. 900. Do you know whether, in point of fact, Mr. Kdnig has written all the labels of the minerals ?— I do not know the fact, but I beUeve he has ; I know that he has written the greater part of the labels. 901. Are you aware of the circumstances connected with the purchase of Mr Hawkins's collection?— I am acquainted with the circumstances attendina the purchase of Mr- Thomas Hawkins's collection of fossil remains. ^ 902. Can you state to the Committee whether Mr. Kdnig was consulted as to the propriety of purchasing that collection before they were actually so bought by the trustees ? — Yes, he was. ' ° 903. Are you confident of that ? — Quite, confident. 904. Do you know what he stated before the purchase was complete ?— There is an entry of his statement upon the minutes of the trustees. 905. Can you furnish us with that entry?— At the moment I can only furnish you . SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 69 you with the substance of it. So far as I recollect, Mr. Koi^ig stated that he Rev. /. ForshalU thought the collection of Saurians to be disposed of by Mr. Hawkins was such as would render our own collections of Saurians unique, and that it was a very 5 June 1835. desirable acquisition for the Musev»m. 906. Are any of the persons employed in the different departments of the British Museum permitted to make private collections of objects in their re- spective departments? — Yes, there is no prohibition against that. 907. Mr. Kdnig, for example, would be permitted to make a private collec- tion of minerals ? — Yes. 908. Is there any report on the state of the manuscript department for the year 1831 ? — I think there must be. There are many reports of the year 1831 from the manuscript department, but whether there be that general and comprehensive report to which the question applied, I cannot answer from recollection ; but. if there be, it shall be produced at the next meeting of the Committee. 909. Should there be no general report, but monthly reports, will there be any objection to extract from the monthly report, the general tenor and tendency of the reports in respect of the manuscript department of that year ? — There will be no objection to put these reports in detail before the Committee, if they wish it. 910. Do you accompany the trustees in their periodical visitations of the Museum ? — I do generally in their annual visitation. 911. What is the nature of the visitation and examination made by the trustees on these occasions ? — It is very general. 912. Do they on these occasions rely on the heads of the respective depart- ments, rather than on their own examination ? — They have already, before they commence what may be formally considered the visitation of the collections, in- formed themselves, by means of sub-comniittees or of their officers' reports, or by other means, of the state of the collections generally, and they look into such points as they conceive to be most important. 913. How long does the visitation occupy? — The annual visitation may occupy one or two hours after the trustees have heard the reports of their officers, and dispatched the othei* business of the day ; but the intention of that visitation is rather to see that all things in the Museum are in good order and arrajigement than lo enter into any minute detail or examination. 914. Then, in point of fact, are the reports of the officers audited at all, or does anybody compare them ? — The trustees do undoubtedly compare them occasionally, but the principal librarian is the person to whom that duty is confided by the arrangements of the Museum. 915. Then Sir Henry Ellis is the person who is responsible for the correctness pf the reports ? — Yes, certainly. 916. Do they ever call to their assistance scientific men to accompany them round the Museum in the course of their investigation ?— No. 917. Are the trustees proper judges on many of those points which are sup- posed to come uiider their consideration : for instance, those who visit the mineralogical department, are they likely to have an accurate knowledge on the subject ?, are they good judges of whether the descriptions of the minerals are, correct ? — Certainly not ^uch an accurate knowledge as you speak of, nor do I consider it necessary that they should. 918. Then what good do you think can arise from the visitation of the trustees? — ^The greatest good. It induces the officers to have their collections in proper order, and open for the inspection of the trustees ; and the trustees have an oppor- tunity of looking into any defect in arrangement, or other imperfection which may have been brought to their knowlWge. 919. Are they competent to judge of any defective arrangement, in the mineralogical department, for instance, without the assistance of the head of that department ?— Not of minute defects ; but if a defect of importance were to occur in any of the departments of the Museum, I am quite, confident it could not be concealed from the observation and knowledge of the trustees for any length of time. In this country there are always persons enough to spy out defects, espe- cially in what is public and national ; and the Museum is, of all establishments which we have, that which is most exposed to criticism. Every man supposes he knows something of one or other branch of its collections, and there are few points of its internal arrangement which are not open to the inspection and scrutiny of two or three hundred persons every day, most of whom, be it remembered, have ready means of putting their opinions and observations before the public. 479- ^ 3 70 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Veneris, 12° die Junii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. The Rev. Josiah Forshall; further Examined. Rew.j.Forshall. 920. WILL you inform the Committee whether there be any bye-law which directs that the accounts of the Museum shall be audited, and if so, by whom ? — 12 June 1835. I am unable to answer the question at this moment as to whether there is such a bye-law or not ; I know the practice of the trustees is to audit their accounts. 921. Will you inform the Committee by whom those accounts are audited? — By the Sub-committee of Finance. 922. Will you state the names of the sub-committee of finance? — The Bishop of London, Lord Farnborough, Lord Ashburton, Sir Robert Peel, Sir Robert Inglis, and Mr. Tyndale, form the present sub-committee of finance. 923. Do they audit the general annual accounts once in the year, or do they audit quarterly accounts ? — They audit the general annual accounts once in. the year. 924. What time is occupied by that committee in auditing the annual ac- counts? — I should think it might take three hours perhaps, as near as I can calculate. 925. Will you describe as nearly as you can the mode pursued by the sub- committee in auditing the accounts ? — They go through all the expenditor's vouchers, the vouchers for the payments made by him ; every single receipt and voucher of every kind is looked at personally by the trustees. Having satisfied themselves as to the balance that remains in the expenditor's hands, they then look to the balance remaining in the general account with the Bank of England, and they see that that balance corresponds with what it ought to do, with the pay- ments and receipts of the year. 926. Is the expenditor present at the annual examination of the accounts ? — Of his own accounts he is, and generally, I think, of all the accounts, but there may be an exception to this ; so far as regards his own accounts he is always present. 927. What is done by the committee to authenticate the examination of the accounts ? — Two or three members of the sub-committee put their names to the foot of the expenditor's accounts for the year. 928. Is there any account kept by the expenditor or by the secretary, or directed to be kept by the committee you have spoken of, of all the special grants made by Parliament for the general purposes of the Museum ? — None whatever of monies not granted to the trustees. 929. Is there any account in the Museum which would furnish this Committee with a statement of the various special grants made by Parliament since the foun- dation of the Museum ? — They are all stated in the Miscellaneous Estimates of the House of Commons, and are therefore all to be found in the library of the Museum. They have been very few in number, and probably it would not take more than an hour to extract them from the printed papers. — [See Appendix, No. 2.]— The money to which you are now referring does not usually come into the hands of the trustees of the British Museum, as I endeavoured to explain to the Committee at their last sitting. The Treasury do, in point of fact, with regard to these special grants, make us a present of the thing purchased, and do not transmit the money to us at all ; we have nothing to do with it, generally speaking. 930. Are there any exceptions to what you have now stated ?-- -I am not aware that there are. 931. Are there not some special grants made by Parliament, the proceeds of which you have only received, and yet you have stated the amount of the parti- culars of the expenditure of the grant in your annual account? — I am not aware that there are. 932. I refer SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 71 932. I refer now to the annual account for the year 1817? — I have not pre- Hev.J.Forshall. pared myself with regard to the year 1817 ; I really am not aware what did take place in 1 8 1 7. 12 June 1 835. 933. Have you got any Parliamentary Returns of the year 1817 before you ? — Yes, I have. {See Appendix, No. i.) 934. On referring to those Returns you will find an account of a Parlia- mentary grant of 35,000/., and you will find the receipts as well as the payment described. I presume, in that instance, the grant is not paid into the hands of the trustees, but that, in point of fact, the Treasury expended the money, and gave the trustees the proceeds ? — I should presume not, from seeing it in this account; but I have never looked into the accounts of the year 1817, and I have no know- ledge regarding them. Mr. Mawer Cowtan, Accountant to the British Museum ; Examined. 935. DO you produce the account books of the Museum? — I do. Mr. Maimer Coutan. 936. Have you any account which will give to the Committee the particulars — of that grant of 35,000/. for the purchase of the Elgin marbles in 1817? — No. 937. Have you the account book of the year 1817 ? — Yes. 938. Is there any entry in that book of the sum of 35,000 /. received for the purchase of the Elgin marbles ? — An entry of the usual Parliamentary grant only. 939. In the same year, will you state to the Committee whether there was any Parliamentary grant on account of the Alexandrian Manuscript Fund ? — On the 15th of August i8i7, there is an entry of the receipt of a Parliamentary grant of 2,000 /. 940. Is that entered as received in money by the trustees on account of the Alexandrian Manuscript Fund ? — It is on the credit side of that special account. 941. Will you give me from that account the particulars of the expenditure of 2,000 /. in that year upon the Alexandrian manuscript, confining yourself to the principal items in the account 1 — £. 496. 195. 6d. was paid that year to Mr. Baber, in the month of January, to discharge sundry bills, and in the month of June in that year 484/. 4s. was paid to Mr. B9,ber for similar purposes. 942. Have the trustees any account of the expenditure of those sums by Mr. BaBer? — ^They are entered here, and I presume the vouchers are in existence. 943. I wish to know whether there be any account kept of the expenditure, and whether that account was audited ? — The entry of the items composing the first sum is as follows : 1817. June 17. Printing 26 sheets - - - . — Extra for red ink lines in six sheets — Alterations ----- — Tracing and cutting in wood 25 fac-similes — Cutting 10 matrices and casting 21 lbs. of type — Hot-pressing 26 sheets — 25.0 kbels ----- — Binding 99 copies , — Copper-plate printing - - - — Mr. Mentor, half year, to Christmas — Mr. Baber, for editing 23 sheets 944. What steps did the trustees take to see that those sums were properly applied? — I suppose they examined the vouchers. 945. In the account rendered to Parliament in that year I perceive a sum of 1,085/. 8^. 4d. borrowed from the Alexandrian Manuscript Fund; will you state to what account that is carried, and how it is applied?— f am not sufficiently acquainted with the accounts to explain that. 479- ^ 4 £ s. d. - 105 6 - - 9 - — - 10 18 - - 7 2 - ype 33 11 6 - 3 5 — - - 6 - - 24 15 - - 11 6 - - 50 — - - 241 10 — £. 496 19 6 72 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis ; further Examined. Sir Henry Mis. 046. I PERCEIVE in the account of the Alexandrian Fund in the year 1817, that various sums have been borrowed from that Parliamentary grant ; mil you 12 June 1835. state, under what authority the Trustees apply a Parliamentary grant tor specihc purposes to the general purposes of the Museum ?-I only know the fact that the sums were applied to the general purposes of the Museum. 047. Will you inform the Committee whether there be any minute made by the Trustees of the grounds on which they so apply money voted by Parliament for one purpose to another?— I have no recollection of any such minnte ; I con- ceive that by stating in the Return in the next year that they had applied that money to general purposes, they considered they had given due notice of it to the House of Commons. 948. Can you point out in any of the annual Parliamentary Returns the repayment of those various sums so borrowed from the Alexandrian Manuscript Fund ? — I cannot. 949. In the printed account of the year 1819, under the head of Alexandrian Manuscript Fund, I perceive the Parliamentary grant of 920/., and that there was expended in the year 1819, 474/. Ss. 6d., leaving, as stated in the printed account, 445 /. lis. 6'd. applied to general purposes ; can you favour the Committee with any explanation of that circumstance ? — I am unable at this moment. The Rev. J. Forshall; further Examined. Rev. J. Forshall. q^q. I WILL now turn to the Returns rendered to Parliament in the year 1833. — [See Appendix, No. 3.] — I perceive in those Returns, under the years 1831 and 1832, that two sums were received, the one amounting to 956/., and the other to 1,087/., which sums are not accounted for in the annual accounts for those years respectively ; will you explain that circumstance to the Committee ? — I have already stated, that these sums are no additional assets to the Museum ; they are merely the representatives of a certain quantity of assets which were interchanged. The assets of the Museum were not increased at all by means of the transaction with the Royal Society, to which these sums refer. The Trustees have neither parted with any property nor acquired it, and therefore they did not deem it necessary in their annual accounts submitted to Parliament to make any mention ' of these sums ; but they did mention in the accounts, both of 1831 and of 1832, the fact of the exchange with the Royal Society having taken place. 951. Will you point out the statement to which you allude in the year 1832 ? — Looking at the estimated expenditure from Christmas 1831 to Christmas 1832, you will find in the account, headed " Accounts of the British Museum, 1831," at page 3, " To make good deficiency in the value of Duplicates exchanged with the Royal Society for the Arundel manuscripts, 900/." In the account for the fol- . lowing year, which is headed "Accounts of the British Museum, 1832," you will find this entry : " Treasurer of the Royal Society on account of the Arundel manuscripts, 865/. 155. 5^.," there having been a small sum provided in the estimates of the year more than proved to be necessary for the payment. 952. Both these items relate to the expenditure ; I want you to show me the item in which the receipt of the proceeds of the books which were sold by Sotheby and Son, by public auction, is acknowledged, by the trustees ? — I have already stated, that that receipt did not increase the assets of the Museum, and could not, properly speaking, be considered as a receipt by the trustees, because that money was immedialely transferred, with certain understood additions or deductions, to the treasurer of the Royal Society. 953- By whom was the money received on account of the sale of those books ? — By Sir Henry Ellis, the expenditor. 954. (To Sir Henry Ellis.)— Did you receive 2,042/. 17s. from the sale of books in the years 1831-1832 on account of the Trustees of the British Museum? — My memory will not serve me as to the exact sums I received, but I certainly did receive some large sums from Sotheby and Son, and paid them into the Bank to the Trustees' account. 955. (To Mr. Forshall.)— By whom are the drafts in that account at the Bank signed ? — By the trustees. g^e. Did they draw out these sums by a fresh draft, and who was the party who paid the money to the Royal Society ?— I cannot state that at the moment. So SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 73 So far as my immediate recollection serves, I should have said they never went Rev. /. Forshall. iWo the general account. ' 957. (To Mr. Mawer Cowtan.) — Is there any entry in the accounts for 1 831 and 12 June 1835. 1832 of the receipt of that sum ? — I find these entries in the cashier's accounts: 1831, June 11, received of Henry Ellis, Esq., 700/.; Jiine 17, 256/. os.^^d.; and 1832, June 15, 573/. 15 J. 6 c?.; Oct. 19, 350/., Nov. 9, 164/. \s.&d. 958. (To Mr. Forshall.) — Will you inform the Committee, as these monies were received by the Trustees and carried to the account of the Trustees, why they were not acknowledged in the annual Parliamentary accounts of those years ? — I have already given all the information I can to the Committee upon that subject, namely, that the assets of the MdSeum were not affected by these sums ; there was no acquisition by these sums ; though, in point of fact; it appears that they were received by the Trustees, they did not increase the assets of the Museum in any way whatever. 959. (To Sir Henry Ellis.) — Will you have the kindness to inform the Com- mittee whether you can give any explanation of the fact of monies so received by the Trustees not being accounted for in the annual accounts to Parliament ? — I cannot. 960. (To Mr. Forshall.) — In the Return rendered to Parliament in the year 1833, which 1 understand you to have stated you superintended in consequence of the illness of the accountant, you were desired to return an account from the 16th of February 1831 to the 25th of March 1832, of the number of librarians, officers and other persons, etc., and you have only rendered an account of two years instead of for each year respectively ; will you inform the Committee why the trustees deviated in that respect from the Return ordered by Parliament ? — It was thought it would be troublesome and expensive to make the precise Return ordered by The House, and that all useful information was furnished by the Re- turn in its present form. There was no other reason for the omission. 961. Would there be any objection to the annual accounts being authenticated by the names of the auditors, or by the name of the principal librarian in the Museum ? — None whatever, I conceive. The authentication by the accountant has always been considered sufficient. 'There is a minute made that the accounts have been examined, and that minute may answer to a certain extent the purpose of authentication by the trustees. 962. Was the grant made by Parliament for the purchase of the Rich collec- tion of manuscripts accounted for in the annual accounts of the year in which it was received? — No, not in the annual accounts, but in the Return of 1833 made to Parliament, which is a return of money expended for the British Museum, not by the British Museum, you will see an item of 7,500 /. as a special grant, but there is no statement of that sum in the annual accounts submitted to Parliament, and the reason I presume is, that the money was not expended by the Trustees, and never came into their hands. g&^. Why is that included in the Return rendered to Parliament in the year 1 833, and not in the annual accounts ; the general account required by Par- liament being of all sums of money received and expended on account of the British Museum, and the annual account rendered to Parliament professing to inform the House of Commons of all monies received and expended by the British Museum? — The annual account is a statement to Parliament of the mode in which the Trustees have expended what they have received from Parlia- ment. The Return of 1 833 is a special return made for the purpose of giving the House of Commons, and those particular members at whose instance the order was made, all the information which they sought. 964. The Trustees having accounted for the expenditure of the sum voted for the purchase of the Elgin marbles in 1817 in their annual account, and having omitted to account for the money voted on account of the Rich manuscripts pur- chased in 1825, will you inform the Committee why the Trustees in the latter case did not render the same account to the. public which they did in the former ? —I am not sure, looking at the papers before me, that the Trustees did account at all for the payment for the Elgin marbles. The entry in the annual account of 1817 seems to me, on the momentary consideration which I have been.able to give to the subject, to be merely a note added to their account, but to be no account by them. The greater part of the second page of the annual account, generally, is to be taken as a note or set of notes for the better information ot Parliament, but is no material part of the account. • 479.- - 965. In 74 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. J.Fonhall. 965. In the year 1817, there is an account headed " An Account of the Elgin ' Marbles ;" why, in the year 1 825, was there not an account headed " Account 12 June 1835. of the Rich Manuscripts ?" — I really cannot give any explanation of the reason for inserting the note regarding the Elgin marbles, except that the purchase was a very important one, and attracted very general attention. 966. Did you, or have you, as secretary, received any- instructions to omit from the annual accounts rendered to Parliament the appropriation of these special grants ? — No ; the annual accounts j,re not prepared by me, and therefore such instructions would not be directed to me. They might probably go through me to other officers ; but I have never received any such instructions to deliver to any one. • 967. Then you cannot inform the Committee why the practice of 1817 was deviated from in 1 825 ? — I cannot. 968. (To Mr. Mawer Cowtan.) — In the accounts of the Museum of the years 1813, 1814, 1818 and 1825, are there any particulars given of the expenditure of the various sums granted by Parliament, amountingon the whole to 52,200/., on account of the Hargrave library, the Townley bronjes, the Phigaleian marbles, the Townley marbles, and the Rich collection of manuscripts ? — ^The accounts I have before me begin in 1814, and there does not appear to be any entry in that year of any sum on account of the Townley bronzes or the other purchases you mention. 969. (To Mr. Forshall.) — Can you inform the Committee where an account can be found of the appropriation of those grants ? — At the Treasury. So I should pre- sume. When the Treasury spend the money, the Treasury keep the accounts ; when the Trustees spend the money, the Trustees keep the accounts. 970. There is no similar account in the books of the Museum to that of the expenditure on account of the Elgin marbles ?— I believe not; and the statement on account of the Elgin marbles must have been borrowed, 1 presume, from the Treasury papers. The Museum could have no original account of that if they never received the money. It is a mere note, I should suppose, tacked on for the better information of Parliament. 971. In pages 14 and 17 of the Returns to Parliament for the year 1833, the preparation of vphich you superintended, there is an account of the salaries, etc. of the various officers.; how much of that is composed of salary and how much of extra-service money, as it respects each individual, taking, for instance Mr. Baber? — In the year ending 25th of March 1831 you will find a sum of 350/. opposite the name of Mr. Baber'; that 350/. is made up of two sums, one of 200/., which is his ordinary salary, and one of 150/., which was his extra- service money. 972. For what is the extra-service money granted ?— That was for two days* service in, each week throughout the year. 973. Take the case of the principal librarian in the same year? The prin- cipal librarian has no extra-service money whatever ; his payments are considered as entirely salary. 974. Take the case of the keeper of the manuscripts ?— The answer I have given m Mr. Baber's case will apply exactly in the case of the keeper of the ^ manuscripts in the year ending 25th March 1821. 975. In the former answer that you gave to the questions with reference to the emoluments you derive from the British Museum, did you include the amount of extra-service money ."-^Yes, certainly. 976. In the case of the additional assistant-keeper, Mr. Panizzi, will you state what proportion of his salary of 243/. 15*- is for extra-service money ?— The assistant-keeper of the printed books in 1821, the year to which you refer was Dr. Noehden ; 200 /.was his salary, and 43 /. 1 5 s. extra-service money. 977. Why IS not the extra-service money distinguished from the salaries in this account which was required by the order of Parliament?-! believe the account rendered will answer to the terms of the order 978. Will you point out in the account the head under which I can find the amount of extra-service money received by any one individual officer of the r!ffj~ . ; not understand the terms of the order to imply that the House wished them to be distinguished ; but if you look to the notes which are appended you will find an account of the quantity of service given. Mr. Baber, for instance gives five days in every week of service to the Museum ; two of these days are days of regular duty, and three are days of extra attendance. Every officer of a department SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. -ik \ ft-' department except two, the extra assistant-keepers, gives two days every week as Rev, J,Forshall. the amount of his regular duty ; the extra assistant-keepers give five days in the 1— week. 12 June 1835. 979. Do I understand you to say that no officer, generally, is required to give more than two days' attendance at th« Museum for the salary he receives ? — No, not for that part of his remuneration which in these accounts is called salary, limiting my answer to the officers to whom I presume the question refers-^the officers having custody of the different departments — with the exception of one who has been more recently appointed. The trustees have within the last three years changed their system, and intend in future to abolish entirely anything like extra service. Extra service money arises out of the ancient constitution of the Museum. When the Museum was first founded, two days' service in the week were supposed to be quite sufficient for its purposes ; that an officer could not employ more than two days in a week in the Museum with profit to the public ; and from the year 1 757 or 1758, when the establishment first began to work, until a very late period, perhaps 1807, or about that date, the officers did not give more than two days' service in the week, except upon extraordinary emergencies. 980. Then, in point of fact, the sums granted to the officers under the head of extra-service money have been intended by the trustees as "one means of increas- ing the salaries of the officers in consequence of the great increase of their labours? — Exactly so, and of the increased time given by them to the public service. 981. Will you explain to the Committee the principle upon which this extra- service money has been dealt out to the diflferent officers .? — Each officer has, I believe, been allowed 75 /. a year for every day of extra service given weekly throughout the year. 982. Will you explain to the Committee what occasions the discrepancies between the accounts in page 2 and i6 of the Returns to Parliament in 1833, and the annual Parliamentary accounts, as respects the gross amount of salaries to the officers for the years 1821,1 823, and 1 832 ? — Comparing this first total of the year 1821 in the Return with the annual account rendered to Parliament in that year, the totals appear to agree exactly, but there may be small differences between the totals in the account No. 5, and in the account No. 1 of the Returns of the year 1833, from the circumstance that some persons may be considered as officers in the account No. 1, who are not so considered in the account No. 5, and from some other circumstances. The object of the respective accounts appears to be different. 983. You have stated that there may be small differences on account of the difficulty of distinguishing precisely between officers and those who are not so termed ? — Yes, 984. Will you turn to the year 1830, and state to the Committee the amount of the difference between the annual account of 1830, and the general account in the Returns of the year 1 833, and the detailed account in the Returns of the same year ? — There appears to be no difference between the annual account of 1 830 and the general account in the Returns of 1833 ; but there appears to be a diffe- rence of 250/. or something of that kind, between the general account and the detailed account in the Returns of 1 833, and so there probably may be in many of the years, because the accounts appeared to have different objects and were made upon different principles. 985. Will you state the differente in the year 1828?— I think it is less than 300/. 986. Can you inform the Cbmmittee from the accounts of the year 1833 the amount expended for subjects of literature, art, and science in the year i 825 ?— It appears to be 8,755/, 4*. "j d. 987. Will you turn to the annual Returns of that year, and state the amount there said to be expended on literature, art and science ?-^It is not necessary for me to refer to the papers ; I think it will probably amount to 1,255 /. 45. jd. 988. Will you inform the Committee what occasions the difference between the amount stated to be expended under those heads in the general account rendered to Parliament in 1833 and in the annual account of the year 1825, comparing the two years ? — If you will carry your eye up the same column, you^will find the special grant that has been before referred to, of 7j50o/.; this sum makes up the difference. 989. Then in the general account you have added the special grant, but in the annual account you have withheld the special grant ?— I have already stated to the Committee that there is a distinction between the term^ of this order A-n T 2 and 479. L 2 76 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev J Forshall and the design of the annual account rendered by the trustees of the Museum ' ' to Parliament. The terms of this order seemed to me to be more comprehen- 12 June 1835. sive than the design of the Trustees in their accounts. The pbject of the Trus- tees in their accounts to Parliament is, to give the House of Commons an account of every shilling they receive and every shilling they expend ; the object of this Return is, to give the House the precise information for which it asked. 9 90. Have there been any special grants for any specific purposes within the last two years? — There have been two last year, one for the purchase of a collection of Egyptian antiquities, and another for the purchase of Mr. Hawkins's fossil organic remains. 991. Was that money paid to the Trustees and expended by them, or was it expended by the Treasury ? — Expended by the Treasury, I believe. 992. Is there any account of the receipt of that money in the books of the trustees? — No, the Treasury receive those sums, and we have no account of them whatever. 993. In the Return to Parhament in \ 833, page 18, it is stated that in the year 1832, 300/. was paid to Mr. Millard as employed on a general index of the manuscript collections ; was that the only sum that has been paid to Mr, Millard for that purpose, and if not, under what head in any other account is that sum included ? — It is not the only sum, as I have already stated in evidence, but I imagine that Mr. Millard's salary is to be found always under the head of " Officers' Salaries" in the accounts sent in to Parliament. 994. Taking the year 1832, are you prepared to state that it was included under the head of officers' salaries in the accounts rendered to Parliament? — I believe so ; but to be quite certain, it would be necessary to refer to the accounts, and it would take some time to do that. 995. My question was, whether under the head of officers' salaries any entry could be found of the payment of30o/. to Mr. Millard in the year 1832? — la-. the accountant's books I find this entry, " March 28, Mr. Millard 75 /." 996. Under what head is that to be found ? — Under the head or ledger account of salaries and wages. 997. Was it actually paid as part of the officer's salary, or was it paid as part of the wages of the attendants and assistants of the Museum? — The accounts are not kept distinct. 998. If they are not kept distinct, why are they rendered distinct to Parlia- ment in the annual accounts ? — I cannot give any other reason than that it has been done with a view to give Parliament more full information ; the distinction is made at the end of the year. Though the salaries of the officers and those of the assistants, etc. as entered in the ledger at the time of their payment, are not kept distinct, there is a distinction and a division made at the end of the year. 999. Then at the end of that year will you ^tate under what head is to be found the payment to Mr. Millard ?— Upon examination I find that it is included under the head of officers' salaries. 1 000. Is that considered as money paid on account ? — No ; not as money paid on account, the payment is complete, for his services for that year. The heading of this account is " Salaries - and Wages j" salaries to the officers, and wages salaries or remunerations to the assistants, attendants, and servants of the Museum' All these payments are in one account in the ledger. Why, I do not know' except as I have stated before, but ever since the accounts were first submitted in their present form to Parliament, the Trustees in rendering their accounts attempted to give the House of Commons more information than was necessary for the purposes of their own ledger, by making a distinction between the officers and the assistants, attendants, and servants of the Museum, and thus showed to Parliament what proportion of the sums taken from the general account in our ledger was paid to officers, and what sum was paid to the assistants, attendants and servants. 1001. Can you tell us at all when the Trustees came to make that distinction? cannot ; it was long before my time. 1002. You never heard that any special occasion ever arose when they found it necessary to draw a distinction between salaries and wages ? No. 1 003. Was that distinction made from the beginning of the accounts '—Yes • I have no reason to think otherwise. ^ ' ' 1004. Then the Trustees drew the distinction from the beginning ^— I sud- pose so. o B • V ® 1005. It SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 77 1005. It appears by the Return that has been made of the account of 1817, Rev.J. Forshall. under the head of "Alexandrian Manuscript" that money has from time to ~ time been borrowed from the fund granted by Parliament for the purpose; will 12 June 1835. you state whether the Trustees have ever borrowed from other funds specially appropriated, either by Parliament or by will, to different purposes ? — Never, in my time ; nor have I any knowledge of such a fact. Sir Henry Ellis; further Examined. ioo6. WILL you have the goodness to inform the Committee whether that is so Sir Henrt/ Ellis. or not? — There is a fund which the Trustees formerly possessed, which has dis- appeared from their accounts ; Major Edwards's fund. 1007. That is one of the funds undoubtedly to which I allude, and I should be glad to know the grounds upon which the Trustees have presumed to borrow from that'fund, or as you state, to annihilate it altogether? — ^^I do not recollect in what year, but previous to the foundation of the Museum, Major Arthur Edwards left a sum of 7,000 /. towards the support of the Cottonian collection, and the additions which might afterwardsbe made to it. It was contingent, after the decease of a lady of the name of Milles, who died in 1 769, and at that time the sum was paid to the trustees' account. It was not a legacy of stock, it was a legacy of money, placed at the disposal of the trustees for the increase of the Cottonian library. It was left as a sum of money to them, and they considered they had a right to dispose of it in any way they pleased, in making additions to the general collection. Two out of the old Cottonian trustees were members of their body. 1008. Did not Major Edwarjls, by his will, specifically appropriate the pro- ceeds of the money which he left to the Museum ? — I do not recollect the words of Major Edwards's will, but I am confident that the legacy was derived from different sources forming the residue of his property. It came in the form of money, because the cashier of the Bank announced to the Trustees that he had received such a sum, and had given a discharge for it. 1009. I now quote from the recital of the Act of the 26 Geo. II. so much as relates to the will of Major Edwards, where it is stated, " that he did give, devise and bequeath the aforesaid sum of 7,000 /. to the said trustees, to be employed in purchasing such manuscripts, books, antiquities, ancient coins, medals and other curiosities, as might be worthy to increase and enlarge the said library. And did also thereby give to the trustees of the said library, to be placed in some bye- room or corner thereof, all his books, and the cases in which they were then placed, and also his pictures, in his said last will and testament described, which books, book-cases and pictures he did desire and direct might be delivered and given so soon after his decease as might be, to be placed in th« said library." Now it appears, therefore, from this extract of the will, that the sum of 7,000/. was given specifically for the purchase of manuscripts, books, antiquities, coins, &c. ; why has the money so given and bequeathed been diverted from the pur- poses of the testator to_ the general purposes of the Museum ? — It was not diverted ; it was expended upon such objects as are named in Major Ed- wards's will. 1010. Will you state how it was expended, and when? — It was expended in the year 1815, in the purchase of Baron Moll's library of books and a small collec- tion of minerals, at Munich. 1011. Will you turn to the account of the year 1815, and give the Committee ' the particulars of the expenditure of Major Edwards's fund? — It was not entirely expended at that time ; there was a surplus of 500 I., or thereabouts. 1012. Then will you account in any way for the expenditure of that surplus? — It was transferred to the general fund. 1013. Then, in point of fact, a bequest of money has been diverted from the original purposes of the testator by the trustees of the Museum ? — The Trustees, at the moment of its coming, gave the Standing Committee power, if it should be inyested, to apply the proceeds to purchases, and determined that a general meeting had the power to dispose of the capital. That was_ the understanding when the legacy came to the trustees. 1014. Will you state upon what that general power you speak of was founded, whether on a bye-law, or upon any Act of Parliament? — Upon a decision of a General Meeting of Trustees, I suppose. , 479- ^3 1015. Have 78 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry EUis^. 1015. Have I not understood ycu to say, in reference to collections bequeathed ' to the Museum, that the Trustees never diverted them from the original purposes 12 June 1835. of the testator? — That was a legacy of money, expressly left to increase the col- lection, and the Trustees considered they might keep it by them as long as they pleased, until some opportunity occurred when they thought they "could expend it to advantage in some considerable purchase. 1016. In the manner they expended it, did they strictly pursue, the objects of the testator ? — Completely so. , . , 1017. Is there any. account of the receipt of that 7,000 /., and , any detailed account of its expenditure, which you can lay before the Committee? — For a considerable time there was a separate account kept of it, which is no doubt in the accountant's possession ; a separate account was kept of the fund as long as the money remained with the trustees. 1018. I understand you to have informed the Committee that the whole of Major Edwards's fund, with the exception of its surplus of 500 /. more or less, has been specifically applied to the purchase of manuscripts, Sec, according to the will? — Books, manuscripts, coins and curiosities. 1019. According to the terms of the will? — Yes. 1020. If that be so, how does it happen that in the account rendered to Par- Uanient in the year 1812 I find an entry of this description, " Profit on a loan of Major Edwards's fund of 3,140 /. 14 5. 11 d. Old South Sea Annuities replaced"? —For a considerable time the Trustees invested that money in Old South Sea Annuities, and on several occasions they-borrowed capital from it ; and I think in one or two Parliamentary Returns you will see that they applied to the House of Commons to repay the sums so borrowed ; but they still considered that they had a right to dispose of that accumulation in the purchase of any collection which should come before them, and I am certain the Cottonian trustees gave their consent. 1021. Would it not appear from this borrowing and repaying of Major Ed- wards's fund that the Trustees at that time considered it a fund sacred to the pur- poses of a will ? — It was at a very late period, and I think they only borrowed twice from it ; they certainly did not borrow very often from it. 1022. In 1814 and 1815 the sum of 1,625/. 10 *■ was borrowed from the fund, and in 1815, 1,879/.. i*- lOfi?. ; making the sum of 3,504/. 115. \o d. The first, which was stated to be lent, they applied to general purposes ; but both are also expressly mentioned among the receipts as borrowed. How do you reconcile that with your statement that the sum has been bond fide expended, according to the will, with the exception of a surplus of about 500 /. ? — I had nothing to do with the making up of the account at the time, but I acted as secretary ; and I certainly was present when it was announced to the meeting that the Cottonian Trustees were quite satisfied that a general meeting of trustees had the power to dispose of that fund, and had given their consent to the disposal. 1023. On looking over the annual accounts, from 1816, 1817, to 1S33, there does not appear to be any further entry respecting the fund in question ; may it not therefore be presumed that the sum of 500 /. odd is still due to this fund ?— I should think not, because it was a legacy of money left for the purpose of in- creasing the collections by purchase, and the trustees disposed of the money in the way directed, 1024. Then, by the next meeting of the Committee, will you have the good- ness to lay before them the items of expenditure under the head of Major Ed- wards's fund, so as to account for the employment of the money left by him for the purposes expressed in his will ?— The books are in Mr. Forshall's keeping as secretary. (&e Appendix, No. 19.) . ^ ° 1025. Major Edwards also bequeathed to the Cottonian trustees all his books, and the cases in which they were then placed, and also his pictures, and, in the terms of the will, they were to be placed in some bye-room, or corner thereof, or of the Museum; will you state whether the books, pictures and cases, pursuant to the directions of the testator, are to be found in some bye-room or corner of the Museum ?— The books were for a considerable time kept together. It was some time after the year 1787 that our library was arranged into classes, and then Major Edwards's books, being a very small collection,- were distributed in their respective places in the general library. The pictures are all safe, and have lately been cleaned, and are hung up in the mineral gallery. As to the book- cases, there are some old ones in the garrets which may have contained his books,' SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 79 books, but they are of a primitive Shape, and would not suit the Museum now. s,ir Henry Elhs. I have no doubt that Major Edwards's cases are about our house, if they have not _— .—_ been disposed of among refuse furniture. 12 June 1835 1026. Having stated that it is not the practice of the Trustees of the Museum to break up collections that have been bequeathed, why have the trustees in this instance deviated from the practice which you stated to exist? — Major Edwards's books came in at a very early period, before the Trustees thought it necessary to keep bequests made to them together, and they were distributed in the general classification of the library at the same time that the old Royal library, the Sloane library, and other collections were mixed ; such as Dr. Birch's, Mr. Tyrwhitt's, Sir William Musgrave's, since, and various others. 1 027. Hence, should it be necessary at any time to re-arrange and re-classify the collection of books in the Museum, there would be a precedent by the acts of the trustees for breaking up and distributing the collection of books given by George the Fourth ? — I should be sorry to see such a precedent acted upon. 1028. Can you state whether the books left by Major Edwards are all of them now to be found in the British Museum? — It is impossible for me now to say ; but I think it probable that there may be a manuscript catalogue which accom- panied the collection when it came ; of this, however, I am quite uncertain. 1029. Can you state in what year that reclassification of the library took place when the collection was broken up? — It was after the year 1784 ; the whole had not been replaced upon the shelves when I came to the Museum in 1800 ; the floors of several of the rooms were then covered with books sorted in classes. 1030. Can you give the Committee any assurance that among the sale of duplicates none of Major Edwards's books have been so sold ? — I cannot. 1031. You are aware, of course, of the oath which is taken by the librarian of the Cottonian library with respect to the alienation or disposition of the books ? — I never heard of any oath being taken. 1032. Is not such an oath imposed upon him by the Act of Parliament? — It may have been formerly. 1033. Is it or is it not enacted in the 5th of Anne, c. 30,. that the trustees of the Cottonian library shall nominate and appoint a good and sufficient person, well read in antiquities and records, to have the immediate care and custody of the said library, which person shall, before he takes upon him the said employment, give security to the value of 500 /., and he shall assent to take the following oath before the Lord Chancellor in open Court ; — " I, A. B-, do swear that I shall and will, during my continuance in the office of keeper of' the Cottonian library, use my utmost care and endeavours for the preserving of the same, and will not will- ingly or wittingly permit or suffer the same, or any of the said books, parch- ments, papers, or records, or any particulars contained in the said library, to be given away, aliened or otherwise disposed of or dispersed. So help me God "? — The Act of the 26 Geo. II., which transferred the Cottonian library to the British Museum, makes no mention of such .an oath, nor does that Act continue the ap- pointment of librarian to the Cottonian trustees. i 1034. But does it repeal that part of the Act of Anne? — I conclude so, by the omission. The librarian now is the librarian of the trustees generally, and not of , the Cottonian trustees. 1035. Will you look at the 26 Geo. II., and see whether any part of the Act of Anne is repealed ?^-There is no mention of the oath in that Act. 1036. Will you inform the Committee who at present is the Cottonian librarian ? — I have no notion, except that the manuscripts are in the custody of Mr. Forshall ; the printed books are in the custody of Mr. Baber ; they have merged into the joint custody of the keepers of the books and manuscripts. 1037. In fact, the Act of Anne is now considered obsolete by the trustees? — I should think the trustees never considered it as an Act which concerned them. 1038. With reference to that part of your evidence which refers to the bequest of Major Edwards, are you aware whether or not it was ever made a question by the Trustees that there was an injunction placed upon them to keep that collection together ? — I am not aware. 1 039. Are you aware whether of not there was any discussion on the part of the Trustees as to the necessity of keeping that collection together, with a view of conforming to any injunction of Major Edwards ? — I am not, because it was broken up before my time. 1040. Have you ever examined the will to ascertain whether it •ontained any L 4 such 8o MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Mis. such injunction as that it shall be kept together ? — I have no recollection of the words. 12 June 1835. 1041. Then if it should turn out that he never gave any such injunction, you are not aware of the fact ? — No. 1042. Have you any doubt that the whole of Major Edwards's books, bookcases and pictures are still in the possession of the trustees, and lodged in the Museum ? — The books and pictures are undoubtedly still in the possession of the trustees. 1043. And in the Museum ?— I cannot be quite certain whether some few of them may not have been sold as duplicates, unless by referring to the early sale catalogues ; there were one or two early sales of duplicates, in which it is possible that some may have been sold, but I am not aware of the fact ; I am not personally aware of a single book having been sold. 1044. Was there any rule or regulation made by the trustees with reference to keeping together the bequests or donations of individuals ? — No distinct rule was made as a minute. I mentioned in my evidence on a former day, that the noise which Lord Fitzwilliam's supposed intention made, of leaving his collection to the British Museum, had, as I considered, induced the Trustees to use great caution in parting with duplicates. 1045. When was that? — Lord Fitzwilliam died in 1816. When Mr. Crache- rode's library came to the Museum, in 1799, it was placed in a room by itself. I do not think the Trustees have entertained any other intention, but that any such great bequest should be kept entire. 1 046. Where it was requested by the donor ? — We have never had a collection bequeathed on those distinct terms, that I remember. 1047. (To Mr, Forshall.) — Do you suppose the Act of Anne to be superseded by the Act of the 26 of Geo. II. ? — Entirely so. V 1048. On what grounds do you found that supposition? — On the ground that the Cottonian Trustees who were there created are not in existence. By the Act of 2^6 Geo. II. a new trust was organized ; and I consider that the old trust which existed under the name of the Cottonian Trustees, and was limited, if I recollectj to five or six individuals, was dohe away with wholly. The best mode of con- struing a statute is to look to the practice which has taken place immediately on its first passing, and the interpretation put upon this statute, beyond all doubt, was that the old trusts had passed away. I presume there are no longer any Cottonian Trustees whatever, though there ^re among the Trustees of the British Museum those who represent the Cotton family. 1049. (To Sir Henry Ellis.) — Is that your opinion? — Two of the Cottonian trustees of that period were retained as trustees of the British Museum by the Act of 26 Geo. II., which enacted "that whenever either of the said two trustees should die, the nomination of their successors should be vested in Frances Han- bury, the then heir-general of the Cotton family, and in her heirs afterwards in perpetuity. 1050. (To Mr. Forshall.) — You are aware of this clause in the 26 Geo, II. " And be it enacted, by the authority aforesaid, that within the cities of Londore or Westminster, or the suburbs thereof, one general repository shall be erected or provided, in such convenient place, and in such manner as the trustees hereby appointed, or the major part of them, at a general meeting assembled, shall direct for the reception not only of the said Museum or collection of Sir Hans Sloane' but also of the Cottonian library, and of the additions which have been or shall be made thereunto by virtue of the last will and testament of the said Arthur Edwards, and like^vise of the said Harleian collection of manuscripts, and of such other additions to the Cottonian library as with the approbation of the trustees by this Act appointed, or the major part of them, at a general meeting assembled, shall be made thereunto, in manner hereinafter mentioned, and of such other col- lections and libraries as with the like approbation shall be admitted into the said general repository, which several collections, additions and library so received into the said general repository, shall remain and be preserved therein for public use to all posterity." Do you not suppose that the words of that clause give an authority to the trustees for merging those collections together in this general repository? I have no doubt about it. i 1050 *, (To Sir Henry Ellis.)— I find in the early accounts of the British Museum,, particularly that of 1812, that the accounts were signed by the secretary of the then trustees ; can you inform the Committee why that practice was adopted ? —I do SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 81 — I do not know whether you may not find one or two signed by theprin- s,ir Henry Elli». cipal librarian. Whoever presented the accounts to the House of Commons signed __^_^_ ' them, I believe, at that time. la June 1835 1051. In the year 1814, I find an account signed, " H. Ellis, Acting Secre- , tary"? — ^Yes; the secretary at that time was in ill health in Devonshire, and I presented the account for him. 1052. (To Mr. Forshall.) — In the annual account to Parliament for 1834, it is stated that the sum of 354/. 175. has been received by the sale of the Synopsis and the Museum pulalications ; how much of that money has been received on account of the Synopsis? — I am prepared to make that distinction accurately for all the years between 1821 and 1833. 1053. ^^ the year 1 833, it is stated that the sum of 462 /. has been received by the sale of the Synopsis and other Museum' publications; will you give me the amount received for each item respectively ? — In my former answer I meant 1 833 exclusively. In the year 1832, it appears to have been 148/. 15*. /\.d. The sum received on account of the Synopsis in 1832 was 19/. 13 *. 10 d.; on account of the description of the antiquities and catalogues, &c. 129/. 1 s. 6d. 1054. Now, in the Returns to Parliament for 1833, it appears that 1,000 copies wer§ printed of Part 5 of the Gallery of Antiquities, and only 96 copies sold ; the same number, 1,000, was printed of Part 6, and only 32 copies sold; how many have been printed of Part 7, and how many have been sold ? — Part 7 is in the press at this moment. 1055. What is the object of printing such large editions, when by experience so limited a sale is obtained? — The chief abject of the Trustees has not been to make money by their books, or to sell them. This is a book, I presume, which will be useful for many years, which will not soon, if at all, require any second edition ; and I should imagine that the number of copies printed is not more than necessary, with a view to the sale and distribution of the next half century, espe- cially when one considers the rapid increase of the demand of late years for every description of literature. 1056. In the account in 1833, I observe an account of a publication of Outlines of the classification of the library, which is not printed for sale ; will you state by whose authority it was so printed, and what was the object in view? — Every Museum publication is printed by the authority of the trustees. 1057. What was the object of that? — The object.of that was to point out the method which was thought most desirable of classing the Museum library. 1058. How many copies were printed ?-^One, hundred and five copies. 10.59. Ho^' were they disposed of? — I am not sure whether any of them were sent to the public libraries or not ; I suppose not ; they were distributed among the Trustees and Ofificers, and some few were retained for the use of the Museum library; but the greater part of the 105 must have been distributed among the Trustees and Officers. 1060. What object had the trustees in view in printing that work? — The object of the Trustees was, I presume, to submit that plan to more general criticism than could well have been obtained if the plan had been confined to^ manuscript. 1061. Were any means then taken to give it a general circulation, so as to obtain that criticism? — The circulation that was intended; it was not, properly speaking, a general .circulation, but a circulation by the Trustees among those per- sons whose judgment they would value in such matters. 1062. Then why is nearly half the number now retained in store? — I suppose the Trustees considered they had sufficient information with regard to the merits of the plan, and that it was not necessary to distribute it further. 1063. Do you speak, as secretary, from your own knowledge ? — No, I have no official knowledge upon that point,' Ijecause the publication as to the classification of the library was published before I became secretary. 1.064. In the accounts rendered to Parliament in 1833, there is one showing a sum paid on account of the publication of a Catalogue of Maps, topographical Prints and Drawings in the. library of George IV., and referring to the period between the 16th February 1821 and the 25th March 1833 ; will you state how many were printed, and how many sold ? — Seven hundred and sixty-three appear to have been printed ; 308 appear to have been distributed, according to the pro- visions Of the Copyright Act, as presents, and to be retained for the use of the Museum, and 1 1 appear to have been sold between the time of the publicatiOH and the termination of the period of which this is a return. • ^ ,^ .479. ' M 1065. Do 82 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE \ „jj. 1065. Do the Trustees obtain estimates for printing ?— They did so with refers tiiTMyjMs. ^^^^ ^^ ^^^ Arundel catalogue, which was printed two years ago, under my 12 June 1835. superintendence. ' 1066. Do they take pains to ascertain whether or not their printing, which is very extensive, can or cannot be done at a lower rate? — Yes; I took considerable pains on that point. 1067. Will you state what was done with a view to ascertain that? — I think the proposals were submitted to three of the principal printers in London. 1068. Will you mention the names of the printers to whom the proposals were made ? — Mr. Woodfall, the King's printer and Mr. Nicol. io6g. Was the lowest tender taken? — Yes. 1070. Who was the person? — Mr. Woodfall. , 1071. Can you state the prices and the particulars at which he undertook the printing ? — I cannot from memory. 1072. Perhaps you can furnish the Committee with the prices and particulars at their next meeting? — I will giv§ them all the information I have on that subject ; I went very minutely into the matter. 1073. Will you submit to the Committee the last account delivered in by the printer of the Museum to the trustees ? — We have no printer of the Museum ; there are three printers employed for the Museum. Of late years, Mr. Wood- fall has been employed for part of the work, the King's printer for part of the work, and Mr. Nicol for part of the work. 1074. Have the trustees ever taken any public steps with a view to obtain their printing at the lowest possible rate ? — No ; understanding by public steps, adver- tising. The trustees have never advertised to obtain a cheap printer. 1075. There is also an account of the publication of a catalogue of Anglo- Gallic coins ; will you. state how many were printed, and how many were sold ? — Two hundred and fifty were printed; gi distributed, according to the provisions of the Copy-right Act, as presents, and retained for the use of the Museum, and 37 appear to have been sold up to the termination of the period included in that Return of 1833; but probably copies have been sold every year since, more or less. 1076. Will you state how many copies of the catalogue of Mr. Payne Knight's collection of Greek coins were printed, and how many were sold ? — Two hun- dred and fifty were pi;inted, 82 distributed in the manner I have already stated in my former answer, and two were sold. 1077. The number distributed, I see, varies; will you state why.? — It probably varies just as the number of any publication whatever sold will vary, according to the period during which the publication has been offered for sale. If it has been on sale for 14 years, you would expect more copies to be sold than where it has been on sale for only seven years, or three or one. ^ - • Luna, Jo' die Junii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. The Rev. Josiah Forshall, called in ; and further Examined. T> 1078. I BELIEVE you have some further observations to make in reference to josiah^Forshall. the printing of the Museum, which was one point under examination at the last meeting ? — The Committee desired to have laid before them the estimates for the 15 June 1835. printing of the catalogue of the Arundel MSS. Those estimates were sealed up at the time, and were not opened until Saturday, and 1 hold them now in my hand. I stated to the Committee at their last sitting that the estimates were received from Mr. Woodfall, from the King's printer and Mr. Nicol ; and I am ready now to answer any questions that may be put to me with regard to the amount of those estimates^ 1079. Will you state the amount of the estimate which was accepted?— It was Mr. WoodfeU's, the lowest estimate, and for printing the catalogue above referred to it is as follows ; the paper to be at least equal to that of the catalogue of the Lansdowne MSS. : £. s. d. For 500 copies - - 3 2 6 per sheet. - ISO - - - -3 17 6 — - 1,000 ---4126 — It SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 83 Mr. Mawer Cowtan. It is dated November 26, 1832. I lay before the Committee at the same time Rev. the estimates of Mr. Andrew Spottiswoode, the King's printer, and Mr. Nicol. Josiah Forshall. I beg also to produce Mr. Woodfall's bill for printing this catalogue. The total amount is 268 /. 2 s. ; the printing is charged 2 I. % s. 6 d. per sheet ; the paper ^^ ^""^ ^^35- is charged at 1 /. 4 5. 6 d. per ream, that being the cost price to him. He has no profit on the paper. There may appear, at first sight, a little discrepancy between the estimate and the charge ; it arises ,from this circumstance, that the estimate was made on a paper equal to that of the Lansdowne catalogue, as being the only method I could adopt to ensure an accurate judgment by each of the persons making the tender, but it was thought the paper should be a little better than that of the Lansdowne catalogue, and the catalogue was actually printed on better paper. The difference amounts to 2 *. 6 d. per ream, or 5 s. per sheet ; 1,000 sheets being reckoned equal to two reams. 1080. Had the other parties information of your intended change in the quality of paper ? — Yes, of an intended change, but not of the precise quality of the paper ; that was determined after the tender had been accepted. 1081. Have you any other observations to make in reference to the examination of the last Committee on the subject of the accounts of the Museum 1-^1 have none at present, but I believe the accountant is ready to produce a statement of Major Edwards's fund. Mr. Mawer Cowtan, called in ; and further Examined. 1082. Mr. Forshall has stated that you are ready to produce a statement in reference to Major Edwards's fund ; will you produce it ? — I produce a statement of the receipts and expenses from January 1812 to June 1815. 1083. Does that include the particulars of Major Edwards's fund in the year 1811 ? — Merely the balance of that year. 1084. By the account delivered in, I perceive 527/. iSs. 3d. carried to the general fund ; do I understand that that sum has been applied to the general pur- poses of the Museum ? — I am not prepared to say to what purposes the money was applied, as the entry merely states that the sum was carried to the general fund. 1 085. It appears that on the 1 ith of October 1813, the trustees bought 1,000 Z. stock, for which, as appears by the account, they paid 578 /. 155. ? — Yes. 1086. That 578 /. 15 s. forms, of course, a part of Major Edwards's fund ? — It is shown in that general sttatement. 1087. What is the present balance of Major Edwards's fund? — ^^The balance was paid over in 1815 to the general fund, 527 /• 185. 3 c?. 1088. Will you prepare a detailed account' of receipts and expenditure on account of Major Edwards's fund ; not alone an account showing to whom the money was paid, but an account showing for what the money was paid ? — Yes. — [ • 479. M4 88 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE , Sir Henry Ellis ; further Examined. 'Rey. J. ForshaU, 1149. IS that the usual number ordered by you? — The numbers vary; for Mr. M. Cowtan, " " " ' " . - , , , . . _ and instance, if any great change in the arrangement of the Museum should be Sir Henry Ellis, expected, I have printed a small edition, just enough as I conceived to feed the ' demand ; but I now keep the press standing. I save considerably by that, and 15 June 1835. make alterations as they occur. 1150. I perceive the Museum gains by the publication of the Synopsis ; do you think it desirable that the Trustees should continue to derive any income from that publication, or rather that they should throw that gain against the cost, and so reduce the price ? — I think it is a matter of very little concern to the Trustees one way or the other. The profit is extremely small ; I think, upon anaverage of eight years, 55/. per annum. 1151. What is the price of the Synopsis?— Two shillings. Thirteen editions or reprints of the Synopsis have been published, comprising 39,290 copies, of which almost the entire number have been sold. The total cost of printing, &c. appears to be about 3,898 I. Since I have been principal librarian there have been five editions or reprints of the Synopsis. In 1 827, the 25th edition, of 2,000 copies, produced in favour of the trustees 61/. 16*.; in 1828, the first reprint, of 1,000 copies, produced a profit of 2y I. ; in 1829, from 2,000 copies, 70/. J2s.; in 1832, from 1,000, ig/. 13*. 10 cl. We ceased to print the Synopsis from 1829 to 1832, on account of flie very great changes which v?ere going on in the house, almost one-half of the contents of the old house being removed into a new build- ing. In 1832-33 the profit was 73/. 8 j. 3 c?.; in 1833-34, 48/. 25. 6d., and in 1834, 85/. 13 s. 2d.; making a total of 386 I. 5 s. g d., yielding, as I have already stated, an average profit of 55/. for eight years. 1152. Looking to the class of persons frequenting the Museum, do you not think it desirable that the price of such a catalogue should be reduced as low as possible ? — I do not think that is necessary; for the persons who form the great mass of ^ the purchasers are families of good condition in life, and sometimes one family will buy three or four copies of the Synopsis. 1 153- Do you not think a very large class of persons go there to whom it would be an object to obtain a catalogue of the Museum as cheap as possible ? — Certainly, and if it v?ere reduced to 1 s., 1 have no doubt that many persons of a humble class would buy it. • 1154. Do you not, therefore, think it desirable that some reduction should take place, rather than that the Museum should derive an income from the sale of the catalogues ? — It would be more useful to the public in all probability. 1155. Have you never heard complaints of the price of the Synopsis?— I have seen persons apply for it who have declined taking it because the price vsras 2 5., who would have taken it if it had been sold for 1 s. • 1156. Could it be sold at this time for 1 s. without loss ?~It could not. 1157. Do you not think that the quality of the paper might be reduced so as tp enable you to publish the Synopsis at 1 *. ?~I think not, unless the paper were reduced to a very mferior quality, and then the visitors to the Museum would not like their purchase. 1158. (To Mr. ForshalQ— It is stated in the same account that 702/. qs. has been expended m the purchase of objects of natural history ; how much of that money has been devoted to increasing the collection of objects of natural history • insects, for mstance?— Very little of it to the purchase of insects; but I cannot answer the question accurately without referring to the accounts, 1 159- (To Sir Henry Ellis.)— You stated in the former part of your examination that there were very few objects under the head of natural history preserved in spirits .?— At the present moment there are two rooms furnished with serpents fish and various other animals.in spirits, and there are 200 or 300 vegetable substances m spirits m the botanical department. • 1 160. It appears there is a charge in the account of 22U. 10 s. for trav-stands bottles, spirits of wine, campliDr, &c. ? — Yes. ' 1161. The Museum keeps up and continues its collection of objects in natural ' history preserved m spirits?— Yes, there is a considerable expenditure for spirit of wine ; it evaporates. " 1162. In this account, it is stated that 79/. 8s. fid. has been paid for clearing goods at the Custom House, for freight, &c. ; will you state what goods the trusteel imported SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 89 imported for which this sum was paid ?— Chiefly books ; the greater nmnber of the Rev. J. FvrsJiall, packages came from Paris ; books and minerals, and different articles. Mr. M. Cowian, 1163. Under whose superintendence were these purchases made? — I believe a- w^"*^ FZ/' Mr. Baber purchases the books ; I do not know whether any minerals have been pur- ""^ ' ^ ^' chased, but minerals have been sent over to us ; the greater part of that charge is i^ j^ne 1833. for the carriage of books. 1 164. Can you state what books were paid for in this charge .? — ]^o ; Mr. Baber will be able to answer that question. 1165. Were any of them donations ? — I do not know ; I should think not. ii66. (To Mr. Forshall.) — It is stated in this account that the sum of 400 1. is required for Drawings and Engravings of the Athenian marbles ; for how many years is it intended to ask for a similar sura for that purpose ? — I presume until all the objects worthy of being engraved are put before the public. 1 167. Can you state in what time that is likely to be ? — I should think that three- fourths, or perhaps four-fifths of the expense necessary to the publication of the gallery of antiquities has been already incurred ; there is not, I conceive, one-fifth more of objects at present in the Museum collections to be engraved j that is as nearly as I can calculate at the moment. 1 168. In what year is it likely to be finished ? — I can hardly state in what year ; ■ perhaps in seven years' time, at the present rate of preparation. iiBg. The sum of 200/. is asked for printing the description of the Athenian marbles ; is there any part of that work now going on ? — Yes ; that is the work to which you have referred, forming No. 7 of the Gallery of Antiquities. 1 1 70. Have the monies so asked from Parliament been annually applied strictly to the purposes for which they were voted under the estimated expenditure laid before the public ? — No, it is evident from the accounts that they have not. 1171. Then do I understand you to state, that an estimated expenditure has been annually laid before the public on account of certain works, which expenditure has not taken place on those works? — It is very evident from the accounts it is so ; and it must happen in all such accounts that the estimate and the expenditure wilt not accurately tally. 1172. But year after year these sums have been asked for specific purposes, and I understand you to say that the sums so annually asked for have not been appropriated according to the printed statement of the estimate? — They have not been entirely appropriated according to the estimate ; but where the sum has not been appro- priated according to the particular item of estimate, it has been included in the balance returned to Parliament at the end of the year. The reason is, that the accounts are kept, as I believe all large public accounts are kept in this country, with a view to the necessity of returning to Parliament, at the end of the year, the balance in our hands. 1173. I understand in that answer, that the sums asked from Parliarnent for specific purposes have been appropriated to the general purposes of the Museum ? — That does not follow by any means. 1 1 74. Can you direct the accountant to prepare, and lay before the Committee, an account of the sums annually asked from Parliament on account of the Athenian marbles and the Gallery of Antiquities, and the annual appropriation of the sums so asked for the last 10 years? — It appears to me from the printed statement that those accounts are given at the close of each year. 1 1 75. Will you show me in the printed statement how the sum of 600 /., for instance, asked from Parliament in the year 1834, on account of drawings, engravings, and printing, for the illustration of the Athenian marbles, in the year ] 834, is accounted for in that statement to which you refer me as an explanation ? — (By Mr. Marve?' Cowian.)-~'The estimate is, for drawings, 130 /. ; for engravings, 270 /. ; for printings 200 /. The actual expense was 402 /. 3 s., leaving a surplus of 197/. 17 J. 1176. How was that surplus appropriated? — To the general purposes of the Museum, or perhaps returned to Parliament in the balance. 1177. That 197/. 17*. which is described as the surplus not expended, was money asked for by the trustees, and voted by Parliament to be expended in draw- ings, engravings and printing, for the Athenian marbles, was it not ? — Yes, for drawings, engravings and printing. 1178. Now, were these sums of 130/,, 270/. and 200/. for drawings, engravings and printing respectively, in the account of 1834, actually paid for drawings, engravings and printing in that year ? — No. 479. N 1179- Can 90 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. /. Forshall, 1 1 79. Can you show me the vouchers of that year for the payment of the Mr. M. CoutaH, 402 Z. 35. ?— Yes. ., Sir Hewy Ellis ^ ' ^°- (^0 Mr. For shall.) —The balance which remains at the end of the year ' is of such sums as have not been appropriated by the trustee^, and so stated to 15 June 1835. Parliament? — Yes. ii8i. Is it applied by the trustees, without the authority of Parliament, to the general purposes of the Museum ? — No. 1 182. Will you state the authority under which it is appropriated? — I presume the vote of the next year, and the understood nature of all estimates, is a sufficient authority. 1 1 83. Do you mean that 197 A 17 s. will be expended for these particular pur- poses in the following year ? — No, I do not mean that. It is rendered back to Parliament, provided the expenditure does not exceed the estimate in something else, for it will always happen in a public establishment that sometimes particular expenses will go a little beyond the estimates, and other particular expenses fall a little short of the estimate, but an honest estimate is always given to Parliament with regard to the Museum ; and I believe, if any Member of the Committee will take the trouble to look into it, he will find that our estimates and expenditure have been of late years as nearly balanced upon the whole as those of any esta- blishment in the country. 1 1 84. There is no balance appropriated by the Trustees of the British Museum to other purposes than that for which they were voted by Parliament, without that appropriation being acknowledged in the following year ? — No, certainly not. 1185. Suppose in one year, under an estimate delivered in, the grant by Parlia- ment has been 1,000/., and the appropriation for which that grant was made turns out to be only 800 /., and supposing the estimate to be given in in the next year to amount likewise to i ,000 /., is the surplus of the first year considered to be part of the grant of 1,000/. in the year following? — Yes, so far as it forms a part of the general balance returned to Parliament, and, therefore, would neces- sarily be so, 1186. Will you state the date of the last sum paid for printing on account of the Athenian marbles ? — I think it was in December 1 830. I am not quite sure at the moment. I find here, 11th December 1830, " Printing; marbles. Part 6 50/. 12 s." 1 187. How do you reconcile that with the charge for printing in the year 1834 in the annual expenditure account ? — I believe the sum of 402/. 35., to which reference is now made, was entirely spent in the drawings and engravings, and no part of it was spent on the printing. 1188. Then there has been nothing spent on the printing on account of the Athenian marbles since 1 830 ? — That is my impression. 1189. And yet there has been an annual estimate laid before Parliament on account of printing, which has been appropriated to other purposes than those stated in the annual Parliamentary account?— It has not been appropriated to printing ; I cannot say it has been appropriated to other purposes, unless I knew that our expenses on other items, of the particular years referred to, had exceeded the estimates. The Trustees have always looked forward each year to be able to print this description, and their expectations have been disappointed from those various causes which I have already explained to the Committee. 1190. Then the sums asked under these heads have been appropriated, under the direction of the trustees, toother objects of expenditure?— Under the direction of the trustees, and with the sanction of Parliament, as I have before explained on the supposition suggested by my last answer. *• 1191. When the money is asked from Parliament for a specific nuroose and appropriated by the trustees to a different purpose, do you conceive that is fairlv to be considered as receiving the sanction of Parliament?-I do certainly, when the fact IS stated to the House of Commons the very next opportunity 1 1 92. What is that opportunity ?-.The printed accounts of the next year 1193. Are there any other sums so asked and differently applied ?~ I am not aware that there is any other instance of late years similar to that of printine- the description of this No. 7 of the Gallery of Antiquities, pnnting the 1194. Turn to the sums asked on account of the Alexandrian manuscript? have they been all exclusively applied to the purposes for which thev were asked' —1 was not referring in my previous answer to a period so distant 1195 Do you know whether the sums asked from Pariiament on account of the Alexandrian 15 June 1835. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. gi Alexandrian manuscript were or were not strictly applied to that purpose?— I think Rev / Forahdl they were not, in the same sense which we have already established. Mr'. M. Cowtan, 1 1 96. In fact, then, the estimated expenditure laid before Parliament by the and trustees does not contain the items upon which the sums of money voted by Par- ^'^ Henry Ellis. liament are expended ? — Yes, it contains more. 1197. Do the items of the estimate and the items of the expenditure exactly agree ? — No, with reference to this particular instance they do not agree ; there may be some other instances, but 1 do not recollect that there is any other instance of late years. 1198. In fact, then, there are some deviations from the estimate; but the explanation follows as soon as it possibly can ? — I presume that our estimates are as accurate as they possibly can be. In the instance which has been put we have looked forward every year to printing the description of the Athenian marbles ; we have therefore taken money for the printing of that work. I have already gone very much into detail into the circumstances which have prevented us from printing the description of the Athenian marbles. 1 199. Is it considered that there is a debt due from the trustees towards printing a description of the Athenian marbles ; namely, the sum of all the items included in the annual estimates professing to be appropriated to that purpose ? — Certainly not. It has been already explained to the Committee that this sum is included in the annual balance returned to Parliament. 1200. You have defended this change of appropriation on the ground that it is explained in the annual accounts ; do you think that the public were at all aware of the fact which has now been elicited, that for a series of years monies have been asked from Parliament for one purpose and appropriated by the trustees to another ? — I cannot answer for the public being aware of any fact of that kind, but I think the House of Commons ought to be aware of that fact. 1201. Is not that stated every year? — Yes, in the most explicit manner possible. 1202. Is not the public led to suppose, by the money being asked for, that certain works are going on progressively, while, in point of fact, they are at a stand-still ? — I beg to say, that I do not admit that they are at a stand-still. 1 203. You have stated that no money has been paid on account of printing a description of the Athenian marbles for four years, and yet money has been annually asked from Parliament for that purpose ; would it not be a fair inference that the work was progressing ? — Certainly ; and the work is progressing, not in printing, but preparing for printing. 1204. But the money has been asked for printing, and would it not be the fair inference that the printing has been progressing ? — Not when it appears in the accounts of the next year that we have paid no money for printing, 1 205. Will you point out in what items in the printed statement laid before Parliament it is stated that no money has been laid out for printing ? — It is cer- tainly not expressly stated in the paper that we have paid no money for printing, because we never do make such statement. I believe such statements are altogether unusual in any account ; but it may be concluded, I presume, from no item appearing with regard to printing in the next year's payments, that the money has not been so applied. 1206. Would it be a legitimate inference from the items in this printed paper that no money had been expended for printing, when a detailed estimate is given for drawings, engravings and printing, stating so much for each of these three items as referred to in the estimate, but in the expenditure a total sum of 403 /. only is given for the expenditure ? — I am not prepared to defend it by a mere reference to the page of the accounts now cited, but looking over the payments specified on the other side of the leaf, you will find we are extremely particular in our accounts of expenditure for printing ; for instance, for printing rules, statutes and so forth, printing catalogue of manuscripts, printing Synopsis, all under separate heads; and I do think that, under these circumstances, it is a fair inference, that if we had spent any money for printing the description of the Athenian marbles, that would have formed a specific item in the next year s payments. 1207. Suppose that Parliament were no longer to sanction that practice which you have already adopted, of applying the surplus on one estimate to make up the deficiency on another, should you not be obliged to prepare your estimate on a dif- ferent scale ?— Certainly ; we should be obliged to ask for a larger sum. 479- jj 2 i2o8. When 92 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE 'B,e\. J. Forshall, i2o8. When you prepared these estimates, in which you included the estimate Mr. M. Cowtan, for printing which has been already referred to, has there not been at the time of _. „'^"" „„. the preparation of the estimate such an intention of printing that work as justified ^n Heii.ru Ellis. ^ ^,. -r^ ,. , i • • r .1 • <.- c -j. • -. • , ^ you m asking Parliament to make provision for the printing or it, supposing it is to 35 June 1835. be carried into effect? — Undoubtedly, the annual estimates would otherwise be dishonest j and I beg to add, that so far as I am responsible, no estimates to which any dishonesty attaches should be presented to Parliament. I should not suffer any sum to be put into the estimates which was not intended to be spent, or when there was not a probability of its being spent for the purpose for which it was asked. 1209. Can you state to the Committee generally why you have made in four successive years that provision for the printing, when it has never been carried into effect in either of the years for which you have made provision? — There has been a considerable delay in preparing the letterpress for this work, owing to the change of oflBcers in the department of antiquities. We first lost Mr. Taylor Combe ; he became very ill, his illness continued a long time, and when he was unwell it was impossible to make any arrangement for printing the letterpress of that work. The writing of the description was then referred to Dr. Noehden ; he became very unwell, and not long after died, and that was the cause of another delay. The Trustees, I believe, while Dr. Noehden was unwell, begged the assistance of Mr. Cockerell, and he wrote the descriptions of the marbles in Pai't 6, but when we had an officer of our own who was able to take the responsibility upon himself, the Trustees desired that officer to prepare the descriptions in Part 7. There has been a good deal of delay in preparing that part, from various causes, connected with great acquisitions and great operations or changes in the department ; but if you require further explanation of the causes of that delay, the officer at the head of the department of antiquities will give such explanation more fully than I can. 1210. Had you any fair anticipation that you would be able to carry on the printing in the course of the year for which you applied to Parliament for a grant ? — Undoubtedly. 1211. Is the money granted by Parliament for the drawings, engravings and printing of the Athenian marbles, and other objects, spent in drawings and engravings of those particular objects, when no money is spent on the printing ? — No, not the whole of it. We cannot exactly calculate, with regard to the dravvings and engrav- ings, what money will be wanted. Engravers are sometimes very troublesome, and it is impossible to calculate when some of them will produce their work ; they will take six months, and I have known them take two or three years, if they are engravers of eminence, to finish their plates. 1212. But the money for those plates would be paid in those particular sums if the accounts were brought in during the year ? — Yes. 1213. In the account of the estimate for expenditure for the year 1833, it is stated that the sum of 2,500/. is required for the purchase of books and manu- scripts ? — Yes. 1214. Will you point out in the account of payments for 1834, the appronria- tion of that grant? — I find for the purchase of books 1,974/. 9*. ii d., and for the purchase of manuscripts 528/. \'] s. 6d.; if you add these together, they will amount as nearly to 2,500 /. as can be expected, considering the nature of annual estimates. 1215. There is 450 /. asked for printing the catalogue of manuscripts ? — Yes. 1216. Will you point out the corresponding payment? — I find for " printino- catalogue of manuscripts, engraving, &c., 375/. 7 s. ^d." " 1217. That is the same catalogue referred to in the estimate ?— The same catalogue. 1218. You stated in your answer, No. 576, relative to Sir George Beaumont's pictures, that the Trustees of the British Museum had the power of taking away those pictures from the National Gallery if they thought fit ; do you imagine they 'i! have such a power ? — Yes. ' *' ' 1219. Were not the pictures given to the Trustees of the British Museum under the specific trust that they were to be transferred to the National Gallery .? Yes, I think so ; to some place which should contain the national collection of pictures. -' J 220. Did not Sir George Beaumont overlook the hanging of them up himself? — I have understood so. 1221. Did he not bequeath them to the Trustees of the British Museum in trust, because at that time the trustees of the National Gallery were hardly a recoo-nised body? — Yes, probably he did. * ® 1222. Was SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 93 1222. Was it not perfectly understood that Sir George Beaumont and Mr. Hol- well Carr meant to leave their pictures to the National Gallery, whenever it was ^^" m^^"'^"'^^' erected, and not to the British Museum?— I think it was perfectly understood, '■'and""'""' from a time previous to Sir George Beaumont's death, that these pictures were to Sir Henry Ellis. be placed in the National Gallery and not in the British Museum. 1223. But you still hold that the legal property is in the Trustees of the British ^5 June 1835. Museum? — I have no reason to think otherwise, from an examination of the papers. 1224. Have you ever taken a legal opinion upon it ? — Never ; nor have 1 ever seen Sir George Beaumont's will ; but I have always considered that the gift of his pictures was complete to the trustees of the British Museum, and required no con- firmation by will. 1225. But you admit they had no option of placing them anywhere else but in the National Gallery ? — No, certainly not ; it would have been much to be regretted if Sir George Beaumont's pictures had been placed anywhere else. 1226. They had no option you say ?— No moral option. 1227. Had they any legal option ? — Yes, I conceive so. 1228. Do you conceive they might have hung them up where they pleased? — , Legally they might, I think. 1229. Do you mean by the words of the will ? — No; there was no bequest by will, it was a gift ; there was an understanding that the pictures were to be placed in the iiational collection. 1 230. In what manner did you arrive at that understanding ? — I arrive at my opinion chiefly from the letter of Sir George Beaumont. 1231. And from any conversation? — No, but from his letter, coupled with the actual delivefy of the pictures by himself. 1232. Is it from the letter, in addition to a conversation with Sir George Beaumont, that you arrive at the understanding of what his intentions were? — No, I never had any conversation with Sir George Beaumont, though some of the trustees had, upon the subject. I have always understood that he wished the pic- tures to be in the National Gallery ; but I think his letter and the delivery of the pictures would be quite sufficient to found an opinion upon similar to that which I have expressed. 1233. Does he state in that letter that they are to be placed in a National Gal- lery ? — Yes, I think he does, in a gallery to be built. 1234. Supposing, then that the Trustees of the British Museum were to suspend them elsewhere than in. the National Gallery, do you consider that the trustees ^might be proceeded against for breach of trust? — I cannot suppose for a moment that the Trustees of the British Museum would do anything they were not autho- rized to do, or that they were not directed to do, in a case of this nature ; but if you force upon me the supposition of their capriciously taking away those pictures from the National Gallery, I do not think a court of justice would interfere to prevent them. 1235. "Would you regard the communication of Sir George Beaumont as a direction or condition ; as a direction guiding the trustees, or as a condition, for the noncompliance of which their right to the property would cease? — Cer- tainly as a direction, not as a condition. 1236. You admit they had no option in hanging them in the National Gallery? — No moral option ; there is no question that it was their duty to do so, and that it will be their duty to retain them there, so long as the pictures are carefully preserved. [T/ie Witness was directed to produce at the next meeting of the Committee a copy of the letter of Sir George Beaumont, with a list sent with his- pictures, and any ,.- minute in the books of the 3iuseum relating theixto. — {See Appendix, No. 23.)] 1237. In the printed annual account of 1834, there is an item of expenditure on account of the classed catalogue of printed books ? — Yes. 1238. Is any other catalogue progressing, namely, a catalogue or index of the manuscripts ? — Catalogues of manuscripts are always progressing. 1239. Where are the payments entered on account of the index of the manu- scripts ?— Under the head of officers' salaries; the officers and assistants of the department are employed in that service; it is part of their duty to make these catalogues. • 1 i240. How is it there is an estimate of the expenditure in respect of the cata- Jogue of printed books, and no estimate of expenditure on accountf of the index ot 479. N3 the 94 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. J. Forahcdl, the manuscripts ? — The reason is that the catalogue of printed books is a special t^^^^^ ' service requiring supernumeraries, and that portion of the expense incurred by Sir Henry Ellis. *^^ Supernumeraries is entered as a special item ; but the catalogue of manuscripts . — -p.- requires no supernumeraries. 15 June 1835. 1 24 1 . But at the same time it is a source of annual expenditure ? — ^^Yes. 1242. Then why is it not to be found under the head of estimated expenditure? — Because the persons who are employed on the catalogue of manuscripts are era- ployed on various other duties connected with the manuscript department, and it could not be fairly entered in the estimate under such a head. 1243. What is the annual expense of the index to the manuscripts? — We have no index to the manuscripts ; the catalogue of the collections of manuscripts is continually in progress. If you inquire what is the expense of the whole depart- ment of manuscripts, salaries of officers, assistants and attendants, I can state it by reference to my papers ; but I think it is about 1,500 /. a year. 1244. I want to know why so important an item of expenditure is not to be found under the head of estimated expenditure ?— It is included under another head. 1 245. Are the persons who are now employed on the catalogue of printed books in the receipt of salaries, which salaries are paid out of the sum voted under the head of officers' salaries and extra services ? — Not the persons employed on the services for which the 500 L, to which reference is made, was taken. 1246. Will you state the number of persons employed and their salaries, to account for the estimated expenditure of the 500 I. ? — There are two ; Mr. Home is one, and Dr. Schier is another. 1247. Will you state their salaries 1 — Mr. Home has 300/. a year ^ Dr. Schier's salary until Saturday last was 1 s. a day for every day that he was actually em- ployed ; it is now 1 2 *. a day for every day that he is employed. 1248. Is that salary of Mr. Home paid out of that 500 L, or is it paid out of 2,500 /. odd, asked on account of salaries? — So far as I understand the question, it is paid out of the 500 /. 1 249. Will you state in what respect the question is not intelligible ? — The sura of money granted in the year referred to is 17,796 L, making one total, out of which we pay whatever the expenses of the year may be. 1250. The question was, whether Mr. Home's salary was paid out of the 500/. voted for the formation of the catalogue of printed books, or whether it was paid out of the sum voted on account of officers' salaries ? — When the Treasury give a cheque for 17,796/. I cannot tell out of what part of that cheque any particular sum comes. 1251. But the expense of the general catalogue of manuscripts is paid out of the sum voted for salaries and extra services ? — Yes. 1252. But the expense of the catalogue of printed books is intended to be paid out of the 500 /. specifically voted for that purpose ? — The expense of part of the catalogue ; the expense of the supernumeraries employed on that catalogue. 1253. Ought it not rather to come under the head of salaries_and extra ex- penses than under the head of catalogue of printed books ? — I think not • the distinction is adopted for the purpose of giving more explicit information to the House of Commons. 1254. Do you arrange your accounts in your books under different heads ?— Yes, we keep distinct accounts in the ledger, but we do not arrange our estimates separately, at least not generally so, in the ledger. We do not arrange the esti- mates under distinct heads, though we do arrange the expenditure under distinct heads. 1255. Certain sums are granted by Parliament for specific objects ; are they in- variably applied to those objects, or do you take the sum en masse, and appropriate' it to diffisrent objects as it may happen ? — We receive the whole grant in one sum, at least so far as the present point of inquiry is concerned ; but as nearly as we cari we appropriate it in proportion to the specific objects for which the estimates were framed. 1256. The grant is not applied specifically to those objects?— No; we strike a balance at the end of the year, and one estimate may be a few pounds over and one estimate a few pounds under. 1257. You apply for a certain grant, say i 7,000 /., and you show to Parliament your reason for requiring that sum of money by the division you make in your estimate 15 June 1835. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 95. estimate of sq much for officers' salaries, so much for stationery, and so on ? — Yes, Rev. J. Forshdl, and in the following year we show how that money has been expended. Mr. M. Cowtan, 1258. Would not the better way be to credit each particular head with the sum „. rr^"*^ „„. received, and to debit it with the sum expended ?— The account would be more ____'*' easily comprehended, but the difference between that and the present method is chiefly in r^ard to juxtaposition. 1259. In the annual account for 1833, the sum of 3,91 8 l. is charged for '* sala- ries and board-wages of assistants, attendants and servants;" what amount of board- wages is paid to the assistants ? — No board-wages are paid to the assistants and attendants, but only to the servants. 1260. Where is there any charge for that in the estimates ? — It is put in under one head ; the term hoard-wages applies to the servants, the terms salaries and wages apply to the assistants, attendants and servants. 1261. Would it not be better to put each separately? — I can hardly see any advantage to be derived from a more accurate specification. 1262. (To Sir Hemy Ellis.) — Will you state what is about the amount of board-wages for 1 834 ? — The housemaids have ly I. per month board-wages ; that is for seven housemaids ; and the three men servants have JOs. a week board- wages, making a total paid in 1 834 of 299 /. 1263. (To Mr. Forshall.) — Now what class of officers are comprehended under the term Assistants ? — AH those, generally, who, though employed in the literary or scientific business of the Museum, have no custody whatever ; that is the best distinction that I can make. .1264. Will you also define the class comprehended under the term of Attend- ants ? — I do not know that I can do so accurately at the moment. The Attendants are those who are not employed in the literary or scientific occupations of the place, and y«t are not either household servants or labourers. 1265. In the Returns to Parliament in 1833, I find the term " Clerks;" are they the same persons who are described in the previous accounts under the term of Assistants ? — Yes. • 1266. What class of persons are they who are comprehended under the term " Assistants ;" what other qualifications and duties have they, generally speaking ; of your own department, for instance ? — They assist in making the catalogues. 1 267. Are they men of learning and standing? — Not always of great standing ; some of them are young men. In my department they are men of from 23 to 35; none of them younger than 23, or, perhaps, so young ; none of them older, I think, than 35. 1268. There is a charge of 200/. for transcribing catalogues, with a view to removing the library to a new wing ; will you explain that item to the Committee ? — Mr. Baber, the keeper of the Printed Books, can give a better explanation upon that point than I can. ] 269. From the examination of to-day, should you be disposed to think that the mode of keeping the Accounts in the British Museum can be improved, or other- wise? — I thiiik it might perhaps be improved, but not to any extent; we might enter a little more into detail than we do. 1270. Do you not think some portion of the confusion in the accounts laid before Parliament is attributable to the secretary having so much other important duty to discharge ? — I cannot admit, in the first place, that there is any confusion whatever in the accounts ; and in the next place, I do not think, if there be any confusion in the opinion of some persons, that it is attributable to the secretary. 1271. Are any persons allowed to view the Museum in the month of September ? —Yes. 1272. Who are they? — Any foreigner who applies is immediately admitted, and any person who can make out a good reason for seeing it then ; but we do not show its contents to the public in general, because we take that opportunity of whitewashing or cleaning, or rearranging whatever may require it. 1273. I perceive in the account of the year 1834, that no persons visited the Museum in the month of September until the year 1 832 j and in September i833» the number was 207 ; and in 1834, it was 485 ? — It does not follow that no person -visited the Museum because no persons were returned to Parliament as having visited it. It was not thought worth while until lately to keep an account of the number of persons who came to the Museum in that month. 1 274r^ Can you state to the, Committee any good reason why the Museum should not be opened in the month of September? — I have already stated^ that it is con- 479. N 4 venient c)6 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Eev. J. ForshaU, venient to have one month in the year to make repairs and fresh arrangements. Mr, M. Corvtan, There are very great alterations and arrangements which have been made within the Sir henry Ellis ^^^* ^^^'^" vears. I think I have stated so already in evidence, Almost the whole ' ' collections "of the department of antiquities and of natural history, and the manu- 5 June 1835. scripts, and a large portion of the printed books, have all been transferred and re- arranged within ten years from the present time; the greater part within five years from the present time. We take advantage of the month of September to make these re-arrangements, the month of September being presumed to be that in which the public are least anxious to see the Museum. Still foreigners, and persons of literary and scientific distinction, are at all times welcome at the Museum. 1275. In point of fact, for some years past has the month of September been, employed in arranging, cleaning and making the repairs you describe ? — Yes ; last year, for instance, the whole collection of Egyptian antiquities was removed into the new gallery ; the galleries which contain the Townley marbles were repainted throughout ; and I have scarcely known any September since I have been at the Museum in which some great alteration or new arrangements have not been effected. 1276. Could not those arrangements go on while the public were admitted? — Certainly not, with convenience. 1277. Formerly the Museum was closed for two months in the year; why has a change taken place lately ? — Because it was thought we might do all that was necessary in the way of cleaning, whitewashing, and re-arranging in the space of one month. 1278. Then you think the general admission of the public in the month of Sep- tember would prevent your making those beneficial arrangements in the Museum which takes place in consequence of your having the Museum closed ? — I think it would impede them much. 1 279. Are you prepared to say that during the last 10 years that month has been really and bond Jide employed in improving the arrangement of the collections? — Yes, I think it has, speaking generally. 1280. Do you not think that, without inconveniencing the public by so long an exclusion, particular parts of the Museum might be shut up at times, in order to carry into effect the repairs that are wanted, and, upon the whole, it would be a great benefit .? — ^I am not sure that such additional accommodation might not be granted to the public, when we had once got our collections into the proper localities ; but 1 think inconvenience would result from the adoption of that plan just at present, while our collections are m transitu. When our collections are once deposited in their destined localities in the new buildings, the labour and anxiety of the officers will be comparatively little, in regard to the operations now particularly adverted to. 1281. You close the reading-room in September, do you not? — No; only during the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun weeks. 1282. Do you not think that great discontent would be created by persons coming to the Museum at any time and finding a particular part closed? I think there might be some. 1283. Do you think that would be more unsatisfactory than the present mode ? — I hardly know. 1284. Do you not think in the summer the Museum might be kept open till five o'clock ?— That is a point which I would rather leave to the judgment of the public. I think the trustees would be very willing to adopt that period of the day for exhibiting the Museum which is most commodious to the public. I under- stand the question to imply, that the Museum would, in that case, not open until eleven in the morning. It could not, I think, be open- more than six hours in the day without a considerable increase in the establishment. 1285. Have you not a return of the different numbers of persons entering the Museum at different hours of the day?-Sir Henry Ellis, I think, has a statement or that kind. (By S\v Henry Ellis.)-l have already put it before the Committee, as relates to the reading-room. The students fall off in number at the later hours. 1286. {To ^\y Henry Ellis.)— Andi the visitors of the Museum generally?— They continue to come to the last moment of the Museum being open • but the ' greater number come at earlier hours. ' \ 1287. (To SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. q-. ^ 1287. (To Mr. Forshall.)—Wo\i[dL there be any objection to opening the read- 'R^^.J.FonhaU, ing-room in the evening ? — I think there are great objections. Mr. M. Cowtan, 1288. Will you state what the objections are? — I conceive that the library of q. „*"*^ „,,. the Museum is at present sufficiently open for the purposes for which it is designed. enry mit s. It is not intended to be a library of education, but a library of research; and its ~t ~7~ use must ever be confined, or ought to be confined, chiefly to persons of literary or ""^ scientific pursuits, who have some serious object in view in coming to consult its collections. 1289. Are you not aware that by closing the reading-room in the evening you virtually close it to a number of gentlemen who are occupied in business during the morning? — I am perfectly aware of that; but I do not think that such persons would be debarred from coming to the i-eading-roora of the Museum whenever they had really a serious and important object. If it were a library of education, I should agree with what I presume to be the notion in the question now put to me. 1 290. Are you not in that answer supposing that there are no gentlemen who are Bogaged in morning occupations who can possibly have a serious literary under- taking; how do you apply that to Mr. Roscoe of Liverpool, for instance, a gen- tleman known to have been engaged in business, yet to have undertaken and completed various important and literary works?—- 1 think Mr. Roscoe, when he had really a serious object, would have provided sufficient time to consult the Museum library. 1291. Would he not have found many more opportunities to consult it if the library had been open to him during those hours when he was not necessarily occu- pied in business ? — Undoubtedly. 1 292. Do you not think there are many such persons ; lawyers, for instance, in London r — I think there may be many who desire, with a view to their own greater accommodation, to see the Museum open in tlie evening ; but I do not think the convenience that would result from such an alteration of the arrangements (Jan be fairly balanced against the inconveniences. 1293. What are the inconveniences ? — The inconveniences are, first, that we must have an extended establishment. 1294. To what amount ? — It is very difiScult for me to say to what amount, for that would depend on how long the reading-room was kept open, and during what period of the year it was kept open. Thi-ough the depth of winter it is at present open during almost the whole hours of daylight, and it would be utterly out of the question to keep it open after daylight. 1295. Why? — Because it is a library of such immense value, so absolutely irre- parable if it were lost, that you ought to protect such a library against all the risks that you can ; and there would, I conceive, be great risk of accident from the introduction of candles, or other artificial light. 1296. The room in which persons actually read is separated from the library itself, is it not ? — Yes, or I'ather the reading-room will be so, but under the same roof. 1297. Might not such a room, which is not required to be of very large dimen- sions, be made separate from the actual room in which the collection of books was deposited, and made fire-proof? — Yes, it might be if we had space to do so. 1298. More light would not be necessary in the room in which the books ^re deposited than to enable the attendant to find the books ? — No, but there must be some light. 1299. ^^ y°^ "*'*' conceive that that light would actually be placed in the room where the books are in such a way as to make it completely secure ? — -I think not. Perhaps you are hardly aware of the great extent of our library ; it takes nearly one-third oif a mile to go from one part of the library to another, supposing yOu, being in one particular spot, want a book, and that book is to be brought back to to you again. 1 300. Supposing there were a regulation of this kind, that if a person has re- quired a book to be delivered to him in the evening, it should be deposited in the reading-room during the day time, and the room in which the persons actually read should be open till a certain hour of the night ; would not that obviate the difiiculty of carrying lights into the rooms in which the books are actually deposited ? — To ascertain extent it would, but that plan would involve much more trouble than you are at present aware of. Suppose you give notice the morning before that you want a book in the evening, that book might possibly be wanted by half ^ 479. o dozen 98 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. J. Forshall, dozen other persons in the interim, and a good deal of trouble must in that case be Mr. M. Cowtan, incurred in providing the book. But this is a trifle ; I do not mean to dwell upon Sir Hen^ EUi ^^^ objection ; because it is, after all, little more than one of expense, enry 1301. Then supposing this regulation were adopted, that if a book were asked 15 June 1835, for during daylight, it might be provided in the reading-room, the sole difficulty is from the necessity of an extension of the establishment, and of having servants in waiting during the hours that candle-light is required, and preventing all risk from fire in the rooms where the persons actually read ? — We must have an extension not merely of the establishment of servants, but of some one to superintend those servants. 1302. Is that the sole difficulty? — We must have a room detached from the Museum. 1303. Suppose, in the opinion of the Committee, it were considered desirable that the library should be made accessible in the evening, what would you suggest as the means of maximising the security of the books, and maximising the public convenience ? — I am not prepared to answer the question ; my own opinion is, that the Museum library is rather too much used than too little used, taking a compre- hensive and prospective view of what might conduce to the public good. 1304. Does any light now enter any of the rooms ? — Never, but in a lantern, and that only once in the evening, to see that no person is concealed about the buildings, and that every thing is safe. 1305. Do you understand that the new rooms for the King's library have been rendered fire-proof? — So far as rooms can well be rendered fire-proof; great pro- vision has been made against accidents by fire. 1306. Are you aware that some years ago the Museum was kept open till eight o'clock in the evening ? — I think I have heard so. Sir Henry Ellis ; further Examined. 1307. I FIND, in a little work published in 1 77 1 , being a description of London,, the following is given as one of the rules : " that at all other times (that is, save and except Christmas, Easter and Whitsun weeks,) the Museum shall be open in the manner following : that is, from nine o'clock in the morning till three in the afternoon, from Monday to Friday, between the months of September and April, inclusive ; and also at the same hours on Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday, in May' June, July and August ; but on Monday and Friday only from four o'clock to eight in the afternoon during those four months ?"— Yes, it continued so until about 1801. 1308. Will you state then to the Committee on what grounds the Trustees thought proper to alter that regulation and restrict the public in that respect?— I had myself been a reader at the Museum for several years previous to that, and the reading-room rarely held above three or four people in the evening, while a very large number of persons came in the day time. The consequence was,* that the Trustees thought they were performing their duty to the public more advantageously by altermg the hours, and making Mondays and Fridays, in the summer half-year like the other days. It was a complaint from those who visited the reading-room at that tune that the opening the reading-room on those evenings was almost 1309. The book I refer to having no title page, I believe is Newbury's Description h^lT-~} *'?^'' T^^ <^»"osities of London and Westminster described •" published in four little volumes by Newbery of St. Paul's Church-yard; I have a copy of a later edition at home. 1310. Do you think that if these regulations were restored it would not lead to a great number of persons using the reading-room so late as eight o'clock in the ^Inerafl ^^^^^'Pt^on «f Persons who at present use the reading-room 1311. The motive which led to the cessation of those rules does not seem to have been any apprehension of danger, but the consideration of the convenience ?-It was only m he summer half-year that the reading-room was opened from four until eight clock ; there was neither light nor fire in the house at that time 1312. What do you conceive would be the objection to continuing the ooen hours of the Museum m the manner stated till eight o'clock ?-I do no! think that men of research would wish to have it so open ; three or four years ago after severa letters had been written m the newspapers, the trustees thought it might be an accommodation if they kept the reading-room open till five o'clock; they there- fore SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 99 fore altered the hours from ten to four to eleven to five. The clamour in conse- ^e^* J- ^orsluM, queiice, among the readers, was so great on the second day of the reading-room ^^' ^^ ^"""^""^ being so open, that I was obliged to go to the Archbishop of Canterbury and ask gir Ug^ry Ellis. his sanction to break through the rule which the trustees had established only a day or two before ; and we again opened at ten o'clock. j^ june 1835. 1313. A clamour arising from what? — The readers were discontented at the room not being opened at ten, the usual hour, and they did not care for its being kept open till five. There was a memorial signed by a very large number of persons within an hour or two, requesting the trustees to go back to their old hours. The trustees immediately acquiesced ; they thought the readers were the best judges of what suited them. The truth is that men of research are glad to come to our house the moment they have finished their breakfasts, and they work in the early part of the day ; they carry the materials home which they have gathered, and work them up for their publications in the evening. I believe the Committee will find that a different class of readers would come to the Museum in the evening, a class of persons for whom it would hardly be necessary to provide such a library as that of the British Museum ; they would be lawyers' clerks, and persons who would read voyages and travels, novels, and light literature ; a class I conceive the Museum library was not intended for, at least, not for their principal accommo- dation. 1314. A merchant's or lawyer's clerk might have a literary taste? — Yes, but the main intention of a national library is to assist research : to aid those who are more professionally devoted to knowledge. Circulating libraries provide most of the books which merchants' clerks would want. 1315. Would there be any objection to opening the Museum at nine o'clock in the morning, as it was in the year 1771 ? — I cannot, at the present moment, give a decisive answer to that question. I must add another circumstance : I shall be able, perhaps, at a future meeting of the Committee, when the consideration of the reading-room is renewed, to show an instance of a gentleman asking for 55 books in one morning. There is much time employed in putting books away ; the attendants are engaged in that work at present from nine to ten. 1316. Did be get his 55 books ? — He had his 55 books. This was on the 20th of May : on the 26th of May the same gentleman wrote on apiece of paper, " The undersigned will feel particularly obliged by any gentleman favouring him with as many works as he conveniently can on the following subjects ; Government ; Poli- tical Liberty." The requisitionist was accommodated to the utmost power of the librarians. There are a great many readers who have a large number of books and many manuscripts besides at the same time. 1317. Do you think that is a sufficient objection to opening the Museum at nine o'clock? — I think so; we have our servants there at nine o'clock, and as I have mentioned, they are busied in putting the books of the previous day in their places. 1318. Do you think there would be any difficulty in the summer months in opening the Museum from nine o'clock in the morning till eight o'clock in the evening ? — Yes, I should think insurmountable difficulty. 1319. What objection is there to opening the Museum during the Easter holi- days? — It gives us an opportunity of cleansing the place and making a variety of arrangements, for which we want the aid of the attendants. I will mention in par- ticular Easter week : the Stamp-office at that time always gives us a year's town and country newspapers ; we are obliged to send a certain number of our servants there, and they not only bring away the newspapers, but during that week collate and arrange them for the bookbinder, so that by this collective exertion, a year or two years' newspapers, as the case may be, are assembled, bound, and brought into immediate use, an effisrt which could not be accomplished in so short a time without such holidays. 1320. Do you think that is a sufficient reason for excluding the public at a time when so large a portion of the people are at leisure ? — 1 think the most mischievous portion of the population is abroad and about at such a time. 1321. Do you think that any mischief would arise to the Museum provided suf- ficient attendants were present ? — Yes, I think the more vulgar class would crowd into the Museum. 1322. Do you not think that one object of the Museum is to improve the vulgar class ?— I think the mere gazing at our curiosities is not one of the greatest objects of the Museum. 1 323. Do you think that pictures or statues are made for any other purpose than o 2 bemg 100 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev, J. ForsfiaU. being gazed at, speaking always of the great mass of the people? — I think those Mr. M. Cowtan, weeks are weeks of judicious exclusion. SirHe^^ EW ^^^^' Do you think there would be any diflaculty, supposing the Committee enty is. ^^j^^gij^ ^-j^^^ ^^^ Museum should be open during the Easter and Whitsun weeks, 1' June iS?-; '^ accomplishing such a wish ? — I think the exclusion of the public is very material, inasmuch as the place otherwise would really be unwholesome. The great extent of cleansing which they enable us to undertake, renders those weeks very neces- sary to us. 1325. Then you think the ventilation of the Museum is imperfect? — I can only say that after the Easter week I said to several of my brother officers, " Only observe how wholesome the Museum smells to what it did before the holidays." 1326. That has occurred on the ordinary days of cleansing'' — No; the cleans- ing in the Easter, Whitsun and Christmas weeks is a very thorough and exten- sive one. 1327. Would it not be desirable, with reference to the great mass of the people, that that cleansing should take place at some other part of the year, and that the Museum should be open during the great public holidays ? — I think the incon- venience, generally speaking, is less on those great public holidays than it would be at any other time. 1328. Are there not more people about whom you should be anxious to instruct and amuse during those holidays than at any other portion of the year ? — I think the more important class of the population (as far as we are concerned)^ would be discontented at such a change as the former question contemplates. 1329. W^ill you describe what you mean by the more important part of the population ? — People of a higher grade would hardly wish to come to the Museum at the same time with sailors from the dock-yards and girls whom they mio-ht bring with them. I do not think such people would gain any improvement from the sight of our collections. 1330. Did you ever know an instance of a sailor bringing a girl from the dock- yards ? — I never traced them to the dock-yards, but the class of people who would come at such times would be of a very low description. 1331. You have been at the Louvre at Paris ? — Yes. 1332. I believe that is open every day to the public? — No^ it is open to the public only on Sundays. 1333. Sunday is a great festival in Paris? — Yes. 1334. Do you know of any evil arising from the collections in the Louvre being exhibited to the mass of the people on public holidays? — The collections are open to the public, as I have mentioned, on Sundays only, and the police are very strict and always on the watch, and they order the people about and handle them in a way which our attendants would not dare to do. 1335. Then do you mean to say that if you had a more strict police, your ob- jection to opening the Museum on great public holidays would be at an end.?— I have never considered the opening of the Museum to the public at any time in that point of view. 1 336. You know of no inconvenience arising from the collections at Paris being open on the Sundays ? — M. Van Praet told me in 1828 that the secret police sat in the rooms of the Royal Library at Paris; but' I apprehend our readers would be very averse, or might even refuse to sit in the Museum reading-room, if they knew that a Bow-street officer was officially planted there. 1337- Your servants and attendants are there, are they not? Yes the attendants. ' 1338. What difference is there between attendants employed to watch the readers, and the secret police of Paris ?— There would be somethino- repulsive to Englishmen in knowing that they were watched by the police. "^ 1339. It is known to the public tha* they are watched in your reading-room?— I do not know that it is ; it is merely that our servants are there. 1340. You do watch them without their knowledge ?— Our servants watch against harm, certainly. 1341. What is the difference between that and the secret police at Paris to which you feel such repugnance ?— In the case of the secret police, I presume'the man is a constable, without any visible badge of office. 1342. If your attendants saw a man improperly employed, they would take him instantly into custody?— No, they would in all probability make, the case im- mediately SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 101 mediately known to me, and if a police officer were in the liQuse, I should desire him, if the case justified it, to take the person into custody. 1343. You would detain a person you saw injuring a book or a manuscript, by your own authority t — I should scruple to do that, unless the person had proceeded to such length as justified the calling in of a police officer. 1344. I ask, whether seeing that a person was injuring a book or manuscript, you would not feel it your duty as principal librarian to take that person into custody instanter ? — I should use a sound discretion in that respect ; the case has never occurred. Rev. ./. ForshnlL, Mr. M. Cimtah, and Sir Henry Ellis. 15 June 1835. Veneris, 19° die Junii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Mr. Mawer Cowtan, called in ; and further Examined. 1345. DO you produce any accounts ? — In compliance with the order of the Committee at their last sitting, I produce an account of the sale of the several Museum publications for the years 1833 and 1834, also an account of the expendi- ture for the Alexandrian Manuscript from 1814 to 1828. — [The above accounts are given in. (See Appendix, No. 11.)] 1346. Will you be so good as to give me from those accounts the gross sum asked from Parliament by the trustees on account of the Alexandrian manuscript ? — ^The gross sum is 10,198 /. 2 s. 6 d. 1347. Will you state also the sum expended on account of the Alexandrian manuscript ? — £. 9,286. 6 s. 1348. What balance remained in the hands of the trustees? — The balance of that account is 911 /. 16 5. 6d. 1349. How has that balance been appropriated? — I presume to the general purposes of the Museum. Sir Henri/ Ellis, called in ; and further Examined. 1350. YOU have heard the statement made by the accountant ? — Yes. 1351. Will you state on what authority the trustees appropriated the balance of the Alexandrian manuscript fund, which was voted by Parliament expressly for the printing of that manuscript, to the general purposes of the Museum ? — I know of no authority beyond their own act. 1352. Do you conceive that it is competent to the trustees to ask for money for one purpose, and to expend it on another, even though they account for it in their annual accounts ? — It often happens that more money is required for pur- chases in one department in the Museum than means have been taken for, and on such occasions I believe we have sometimes taken money from the sum intended for another department. 1353. And on other occasions they have asked for sums of money for special purposes, which they have not expended in the course of the year at all? — I never knew any sum taken for a special purpose which was not ordinarily devoted to that purpose. 1 354. You were present, I believe, at the last examination of Mr. Forshall ? —Yes. 1 355. It was then stated that a certain sum had been asked for printing on account of the Athenian marbles, and it appeared from the accounts that no such money had been spent on account of the Athenian marbles for some years past ?• — Precisely so ; that was an accidental thing. 1356* But that is a case in point ? — It is to a small extent. 1357' It is a case in point to the whole extent of the money so asked and not expended ? — Yes. 1358. Was that balance of 911 /. 155. 6d. applied to the general purposes of the expenditure on account of the Museum 1 — I conclude so from the appearance of the accounts, but I have no actual knowledge of the expenditure of that par- ticular sum. 1 359. If it was not so expended, what became of it ?— It was accounted for to Parliament, and went towards the supplies in the following year. Mr. M. Cowfan, 19 June 1835. Sir Henry Ellis. 479' 03 The 102 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. M. Cowtan, Sir Henry Ellis, and Rev. J. Forshall, 19 June 1835, The Rev. Josiah Forshall, called in ; and further Examined. 1360. HAVE you brought with you any extract from the will of Mr. Holwell ^arr. nv anv rlnnuments which refer to Sir George Beaumont's gift of his_pictures Carr, or any documents which „ , /-, -^, ^ ^ir • 1 ^ to the Museum?— Yes; I have in my hand what the Committee at their last sitting desired I should produce, viz. in the first place, copies of the minutes of the Trustees relating to Sir George Beaumont's gift of his pictures. The first mmute is dated 12 July 1823.— [/if is gwen in and read.]— I have also a list of the pic- tures referred to in that minute; they appear to be 16 m number. Ihe next minute is dated '21 July i823.-[/f is given in and read.]— At the following general meeting there is a minute stating that the Archbishop of Canterbury had so returned the thanks of the trustees to Sir George. I have also a letter from Sir George Beaumont, dated Grosvenor-square, 17 July 1823, addressed to the trustees ofthe British Museum.— [If is given in and read.]— Then m May 13, v 1826, there is another mitmie.— [It is given in and read.]— 1 have also a copy of a letter from Sir George Beaumont to Sir Charles Long, dated Grosvenor-square, 18 April 1 826. — [It is given in and read. (See Appendix, No. 23.)] 1361. Is there any mention of this collection of pictures in Sir George Beau- mont's will ? — I never saw his will ; I am not aware. 1362. Sir George Beaumont states, in his letter of July 17th, 1 823, " I shall be ready to deliver the pictures to the Museum whenever the gallery about to be. erected is ready to receive them." Was the erection of any gallery in the British Museum in contemplation at that time, or could he have referred to anything, but the National Gallery ?— I am not sure that he might not have referred, at the time he made use of this expression, which was in 1823, to a notion which was then prevalent of having a national collection of pictures at the Museum itself; but Sir George Beaumont lived long enough after that to be perfectly aware that that idea was abandoned. . .,; 1363. Did Sir George Beaumont attend himself to the hanging of the pictures, up in the National Gallery .?— I believe he did ; I have no doubt he did. 1 364. Did he place them there at once ?— Yes ; he refers to that fact in a letter . which I have seen in some written document in my custody. 1365. Have you any extract from the will of Mr. Holwell Carr?— Yes, I have. 1366. Read it? — I have in my custody an authenticated copy of the will, but , the extract I now read, which is a correct extract, is contained in a letter fro-m the ■ Rev. Edward Holwell, executor to Mr. Holwell Carr, dated Plymtree, March 10, 1831, addressed to Henry Ellis, Esq. — [It is given in and read.] — 1 have also the minute of the trustees of March 12, 1831, stating the receipt of that letter, and reciting the extract from the will and codicil of Mr. Holwell Carr.— [/if is given in and read.] — I may add that there was a good deal of correspondence on the subject , of this collection of pictures, from some hesitation on the part of the executor to deliver the pictures immediately, and that led to a long correspondence between him and me on the subject. (See Appendix, No. 24.) 1367. Do you conceive that, from the extract you have just read from the will.of^ Mr. Holwell Carr, the trustees of the British Museum have the power, if they so" wished it, to take away the pictures from the National Gallery ?— 1 conceive thajfc^jj they have legally a power to do so, as I stated to the Committee at their last sitting. 1368. Taking your last answer into consideration, I wish you to refer to the Returns presented to Parliament in 1833, cap. 3, under the head of Rules relative to Officers and Servants, where you will find this rule: " On the day of annual,., visitation the catalogues and inventories of the several collections of the Museum shall be laid before the trustees, and the secretary shall particularly bring to their, notice the inventory of the pictures presented through them to the National Gallery, in order that the trustees may appoint a day for the visitation of those pictures ;" and I wish you, therefore, to inform the Committee whether, by the. „ term "presented," the trustees consider they have parted with the property in ,. those pictures or not? — Certainly not ; the terms " presented through them to the National Gallery " refer unquestionably to the act of the original donors, not to any act of the trustees ; but if it were otherwise, such terms in a rule of this nature, made merely to regulate their own proceedings, could not, I presume, be taken to imply that the trustees had made over the property in any way whatever! It will be observed that the words are, " to the National Gallery," not " to the trustees of the National Gallery." That is a distinction I would not dwell upon, but SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 103 but it is a distinction. I conceive it means that the pictures were placed in the national collection for the benefit of the public, in compliance with the intentions of the original donors. The property there may belong to more parties than one. 1369. Have you ever taken any legal opinion upon the subject ? — Never. 1370. Have you ever heard any opinion expressed by Lord Farnborough, Sir Robert Peel,, or any individual who is a trustee both of the British Museum and the National Gallery, as to the right ? — I never heard the right doubted by any one until this Committee assembled. 1371. Have you never heard that upon Mr. Holwell Carr expressing his inten- tion to give his collection to the Museum, he used the words that you have read from the codicil expressive of his intention to give the whole collection to the National Gallery, not to the Museum ? — I have always heard that those precise words were suggested to Mr. Holwell Carr by one of the existing trustees of the British Museum, for the purpose of giving to the public a proper security with regard to these pictures, the trustees of the National Gallery having at the time when that suggestion was made no recognised existence. Mr. Holwell Carr decidedly intended that the collection should be placed in the same building with Sir George Beaumont's and Mr. Angerstein's pictures, as indeed he expresses it in his will. .1372. You are quite aware that the trustees of the British Museum have nothing to do with Mr. Angerstein's pictures ? — Nothing at all. 1373. But the distinct understanding was that they were to accompany Sir George Beaumont and Mr. Angerstein's pictures ? — Undoubtedly. 1374. The witness will understand that in the question about to be put no objection is taken to that mode of appropriating the pictures of Mr. Holwell Carr and Sir George Beaumont, but the principal librarian of the British Museum hav- ing stated, as an invariable rule, that the trustees never parted with anything that had been bequeathed to them, I ask you now to inform the Committee whether the extract read from the rules and regulations does not state that they have parted with these pictures, which are clearly bequeathed to the Museum ? — No, I think not. I am of opinion, as I have already stated to the Committee, that the trustees have the legal custody of these pictures. 1375- Would it be competent to the trustees to place the King's Library in any other part of the metropolis, should a more eligible building be found for it ? — I should conceive so certainly, if it would be for the benefit of the public to do it. 1376. And place it in the custody of other persons having only a general control over it ? — Yes ; exercising so much control as with reference to the intention of the individuals who made the gift, is, at the same time, mostconducive to the public good. 1377. Suppose it should be thought most conducive to the public good to place the Royal Library at Oxford, do you conceive that the trustees of the British Museum, who are the guardians of that library, have the power to remove it to Oxford ? — Undoubtedly ; if I understand what is meant by being conducive to the public good, which would have reference of course to keeping good faith with testators and donors. 1378. Then you conceive, in opposition to the opinion of the principal librarian, that the trustees ought to exercise a sound and equitable discretion over any articles bequeathed to them, and that they should not rigidly confine them within the walls of the British Museum ? — I am not aware that I am at all in opposition to the opinion of the principal librarian ; we are speaking upon a hypothetical case ; but I should have no doubt that they might do so. I do not conceive that the powers of the trust are at all limited to the space of ground occupied by the Museum. 1379. In question 436 of the thiuji day's examination Sir Henry Ellis is asked, '• whether it is to be understood that the stipulations made in the wills of persons bequeathing collections to the Museum are always literally and strictly adhered to," and the answer is, " I do not recollect any instance to the contrary ; " do you think that in the case of Sir George Beaumont's pictures the stipulations in the bequest have been literally and strictly adhered to ? — Yes. 1380. Will you explain that answer, considering that the pictures have been presented to the National Gallery ? — I do not consider that the pictures have been presented to the trustees of the National Gallery. Sir George Beaumont directed that they should be placed in the gallery. 1381. Now then, 1 refer you to the paragraph I have quoted from cap. 3, of the Rules, where it is distinctly stated in terms that they are so presented, and 1 again ask whether you are prepared to state that in this instance Sir Henry Ellis is 479. o 4 correct Mr. M. Cotdan, Sir Henry EUis, and Rev. J. ForshaR. 19 June 1835. 104 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. M. Cowtan, con-gct in Stating that there is no instartce which can be given of an exception to the ^"" ^"21 i'«'e that articles bequeathed are never parted with by the trustees of the Museum ? Rev. J. Forshall. —I think SO ; I cannot see that this collection of pictures has been absolutely parted — with by the trustees of the Museum. jg June 1835^ 1382. Do you not regard the circumstance of Sir George Beaumont himself placing the pictures in the National Gallery as a full justification of the conduct of the trustees of the British Museum ?— Certainly. I think they are perfectly justi- fied in every step they have taken with regard to these pictures. 1383. Do you really think the Trustees of the British Museum have the same control over the pictures of Mr. Hoi well Carr as over the King's Library P—In both cases they are bound, in the first place, to regard the intention of the testator or donor, and in the next place, to regard what would be most conducive to the general good. There can be no doubt that the collection of Sir George Beaumont and that of Mr. Holwell Carr are very properly placed in the National' Gallery, under the immediate superintendence of the trustees of that gallery ; but still I do not think that the Trustees of the British Museum would be justified in giving up all custody and all power with regard to the control over these pictures. I do not think they can do so without an Act of Parliament. 1384. Is there not, in your opinion, a considerable difference between those pictures and the Royal Library, in the way in which they were given, the library being a full gift, and the pictures only a qualified one, under certain restrictions, even under your own construction of the bequest ? — Certainly, there was a direc- tion accompanying the one, and no direction, so far as I recollect at the moment, accompanying the other. 1385. Have the goodness to state, upon whose suggestion Sir George Beau- mont's pictures were transferred to the National Gallery ? — They were actually transferred by Sir George Beaumont himself, in his lifetime. 1386. On his personal request to the trustees.? — No; it was the original stipu- lation of his gift, and the act was superintended by himself. Sir Henry Ellis ; further Examined. 1387. YOU were asked on a former examination whether you were deputed by the trustees to proceed to Pomard, in France, to examine a collection of manu- scripts belonging to the Baron de Joursanvault, and you stated you wished to have time to look at your papers, in order to give such information as might be satisfactory. Can you state the result of that examination of your papers ? — I was not deputed by a meeting of the trustees, nor by any written minute, to go to Pomard. It was in the summer of 1 829, just as I had intended a short excur- sion to Paris, that illness in my family delayed me for some days, and in the interval a note came from the present Lord Canterbury, then Speaker of the House of Commons, the original of which 1 hold in my hand. It is dated. Palace Yard, August 7th, 1829, and is as follows : " My dear Sir, Mr, Nicolas is very anxious that a certain collection of manuscripts, now in the possession of some French gentleman at Pomard, near Beaune, I believe, should be bought by the Museum. Mr. Nicolas is aware that much more information about them is necessary, and is ready to be employed himself for that purpose, if the trustees think fit, I have communicated with the Archbishop, and now nothing remains but to wait till the trustees shall decide whether it is expedient to take further steps, I am, dear Sir, your faithful obedient servant, C. Manners Sutton." The Speaker's note was accompanied by a paper also, sent to him by Mr. Nicolas, now Sir Harris Nicolas, and which Sir Harris had received from his friend Sir T. E. Croft. This is a copy of it : s- " In the chateau of M. le Baron de Joursanvault, at Pomard, near Beaune, there is a magnificent collection of historical documents, illuminated manuscripts' on vellum, and genealogical books. "The historical documents, illustrative of French and English history and manners, were formerly in the Chateau de Blois ; they relate to the 10th nth, 1 2th, 13th, 14th, and 15th centuries. The greater portion belong to the 14th and 15th centuries, and consist of muster-rolls, agreements for service, treaties and letters to and from the most important persons of England and France. ' ' '• The illuminated mss. consist of splendid missals, and amount to 100 volumes or more, but I did not examine them minutely, " The genealogical books are partly printed and partly manuscript, and relate to the families of France generally, but among them are some English pedigrees. " The SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 105 "The price asked for the whole collection is 60,000 francs, which is about 2,400 /., and the proprietor will not separate one part from another." • A note book also accompanied this paper, containing the particulars of a catalogue of the whole collection of charters, in five folio volumes, preserved at the chateau. It will be right for the Committee to keep in mind the stress which is laid in this paper upon the collection containing letters of an early period to and from the most important persons of England and France ; for it was in consequence of that passage only that I was requested to make the visit to Pomard. Immediately upon the receipt of the note and paper which accompanied it, I waited on The Speaker ; I told him I was going on my own account to Paris ; that, as far as I could judge from maps, Pomard was about 250 miles beyond Paris; that having been keeper of the Museum manuscripts for a number of years, I considered I could give an opinion upon this collection just as well as any other person that I would receive no reward for going, but that the trustees should pay the expenses of my journey from Paris to Pomard, and back from Pomard to Paris. He requested I would see the Archbishop of Canterbury, which I did the same morning, and they both expressed their thanks to me for undertaking the inspection of the collection at what was likely to be a very moderate charge to the trustees. I went to Paris, and I went from Paris to Pomard and saw the collec- tion. I reported my opinion of the collection to the Archbishop of Canterbury as soon as 1 got back to Paris, having received at Beaune the Baron de Joursanvault's terms in writing,, which I will explain hereafter. I returned to England. The trustees received a report from me, similar in contents to the letter which I had written to the Archbishop of Canterbury, and they finally determined not to purchase the Pomard collection ; but they made an offer to the Baron for the purchase of everything in it which illustrated English history ; and the British Museum possesses at this moment, at a charge of little more than 1 60 /., every article I believe relating to English history which was preserved in the chateau, with some documents which do not relate to it. I have to observe, and a very important remark it is for the notice of the Committee, that the above memo- randum stated that letters between the English and the French nobility for several centuries were contained in the Pomard collection, whereas there was not a single letter of correspondence in it in any language whatever. I beg now to be per- mitted to lay before the Committee an extract from the pamphlet of Mr. (now Sir Harris) Nicolas, which the Committee .1 see have before them, and which, I pre- sume, has given rise to the inquiry respecting the Pomard manuscripts. — [7if is read by the Witness. See Appendix, No. 25. (1.)] The Committee will please to observe that the first charge contained in this extract is, that the head librarian of the Museum was selected to examine these manuscripts, and the purpose of his visit announced to the British ambassador, that he might receive official aid in the mission ; that, not contented with this inju- dicious and useless developeraent of the objects in view, the learned gentleman himself pompously announced wherever he went that he was the chief librarian of the British Museum, sent specially to treat for these manuscripts ; and that, long before the chief librarian reached Pomard, the French newspapers expressed their indignation that historical muniments should be sold to the British Government ; the effect of all this parade upon the owner of the manuscripts being the natural one, that he fancied he had erred in his estimate of their value, and that he had become so enlightened about his treasures as to expect, not merely double the price he originally asked for them, but certain honours. In answer to these charges, I beg to say, in the first place, there was no occasion for me to announce myself in Paris as principal librarian of the Museum, or to make parade. I was well known to Baron Cuvier, M. Van Praet, M. Jomard, M. Buchon, (who had been the inspector of the national archives,) M. Abel Remusat, and innumerable' other persons of literary and scientific character. The passport which I received at the time, and which I beg to exhibit to the Committee, will show that I went as an English* gentlemen, accompanied by his wife. I was not noticed in my pass- port as principal librarian of the Museum, but as " M. Ellis, gentilhomme Anglois, avec Madame son epoux." Upon my arrival in Paris, I applied to Lord Stuart de Rothesay (our ambassador), to whom I was also known, to procure me a letter of introduction, from any one he pleased, to M. de Joursanvault. I dined with Lord Stuart the next day, and he put into my hands a letter from Pnnce de Polignae to M. Paul de Fontenay, the brother-in-law of the Baron ^e Joursanvault, 479. P ^^^ Mr. M. Cototan, Sir Henry ElMs, and Rev. J. Forshall. 19 June 1835. io6 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. M. Cmtan, Sir Henry Ellis, and Rev. J. Forshall. 19 June 1835. and in M. de Fontenay's house at Beaune I found the Baron. This letter was given to me under flying seal, and I fortunately kept a copy of it, written on the blank leai of the very note which conveyed it to Lord Stuart. — [_It is given in and read. See Appendix^ No. 25. (2.) — Prince de Polignac describes me iu it as " M. Ellis, attach^ au Museum Britannique." It was at my own request that I was not mentioned in it as principal librarian. I did not go in that capacity ; I went merely as a person be- longing to the Museum. It is, moreover, stated that I did not go to treat for those manuscripts, but only to look at them. That letter will show at least there was no endeavour at parade on my part. At the time of my examining the manuscripts the Baron did not know that I was the principal librarian of the Museum. I beg also to add, that throughout the communications which took place between the Baron de Joursanvault and myself, and between the Baron de Joursanvault and Mr. Forshall, in all the letters which were written for above two years, I was never in any one mentioned as the principal librarian. I hope this is sufficiently satisfactory, that there is no proof at least of my having made the parade I am charged with, and that the interests of the trustees were not compromised by any such display of weakness on my part. Then as to the paragraph in the French newspapers, which is so confidently relied upon as having reached Pomard before ray arrival there, I have an answer to that as direct as it is incontrovertible. I left Paris on the evening of August 31, 1829, I arrived at Beaune at 10 o'clock in the morning of September 3d ; on that day I examined the Pomard manuscripts, and having received from the Baron, in writing, the terms proposed for the purchase of his collection at my hotel at half-past 10 o'clock at night, I went to Dijon the next day, and from thence to Paris by the raalle-poste, where I arrived in the forenoon of the 6th of September. It was on that very day, and not before, that the paragraph in question appeared in the Courier des Electeurs. I beg to ask, then, how could that paragraph, which was not printed till the 6th of September, influence a price which had been speculated upon by the Baron de Joursanvault at a place 250 miles distant from Paris on the 3d of September ? The paragraph in the Morning Journal of September 12, 1829, the acknowledged foun- dation of Sir Harris Nicolas's strictures on my journey to Pomard, declares itself to have been translated from the Courier des Electeurs of the preceding Wednesday. [Appendix, No. 25. (3.)] I have also a letter in my hand which I received in Paris from Sir Thomas Elmsley Croft, dated Rue Berbisey, Dijon, September 5, 1 S29, in which that gentleman, as the Baron's friend, in answer to a remonstrance from me that there were no letters illustrative of English history in the Baron's collec- tion, says, " With respect to the letters I mentioned, I merely repeated what M. de Joursanvault stated to me, as I did not see them ; but you must have per- ceived that the Baron is totally ignorant of everything concerning his treasures, and most probably did not intentionally deceive me." He adds, " The Archiviste of Dijon, the Baron's friend and adviser, on my mentioning this morning that the price was raised to 100,000 francs, told me he would undertake to arrange matters for a considerably smaller sum ; and added, that in all probability the price had been augmented because M. de Champollion de Figeac is desirous of purchasino- them." Here Sir Thomas Croft, on the 5th September, gives me, from Dijont the real reason why the price was raised. There is a further charge, that on. my arrival at Pomard I spent two or three hours only m examining the collection. Now, I beg to say that I spent between five and six hours in the examination ; and even that, till explained, may possibly seem to be a very short time; but as the Committee have already observed from the statement I have delivered in, there was a catalogue of the charters at Pomard, in five folio volumes. I found the collection was in two parts : one a little collection of manuscripts in the Baron's private study, joined with a small assemblage of black letter and other printed books ; the other consisted of the - the great collection of charters and original muniments forming the archives of the Earls of Blois, with heraldical and genealogical manuscripts, chiefly relating to France. The charters were arranged in two rooms,— in two garrets of the chateau, -in cartons, or pastejioard boxes. I found the catalogue ; I tried about 30 or 40 cartons, and I found the charters in them all conformed to the cataloo-ue It was utterly impossible, if I had stayed three months, to look over every charter care- fully ; and it would have been of no use, for I found they answered to the cata- logue, and I had nothing to do but to run my finger down the pages and see whether any related to English history. To my utter astonishment, I found there ^.vas not a single charter relating to English history in the whole catalogue. I did that SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 107 that in six hours, and I could have done no more if I had remained six weeks. From Paris, on the 7th of September 1 829, 1 wrote this letter to the Archbishop of Canter- bury, which will give the Committee a very full notion of the examination I made of ihe collection. I beg to add, first, that when the Baron de Joursanvault gave me his terms, at half-past i o o'clock at night, it was in a note, which I hold in my hand, [Appendix, No. 25. (4.)] in which he demands, first of all, ioo,.ooo francs for the charters, and 10,000 more for the printed books and other collections, subject also to some reservations. He adds, too, what he calls a " clause verbale," that the Duke of Wellington, in addition, should interfere with the crown of France to make him a count, with the title hereditary in his family ; or, if that could not be obtained, that he should be allowed to import 500 pipes of Burgundy free of duty into England, he declaring them to be of the growth of his own estates. I will now read the letter I wrote to the Archbishop of Canterbury on the 7th September. — [7;f is read by the Witness. See Appendix, No. 25. (5.)] Another attack upon me in Sir Harris Nicolas's pamphlet (the contents of which F never answered), is, that the chief librarian discovered that the Baron could speak little English, and the Baron, as he has since asserted, discovered that the chief librarian could speak less French. In answer to this, I beg to say that I speak French suflBciently for every purpose I require ; and I believe no one will dispute my power to judge of the value and condition of the Baron's manuscripts. I did not go to Pomard to talk to the Baron, but to look at his manuscripts and charters. 1388. You are aware that the Baron de Joursanvault has stated, in a letter which he addressed to The Speaker, as appears from a note in the pamphlet pub- lished by Sir Harris Nicolas, as follows : " Trfes malheureusement M. Ellis et moi ne pouvions pas nous entendre ; il ne parloit pas Fran^ais, de la . sont venus des malentendres sans nombre" ? — That is his statement. 1389. In the letter to the Archbishop of Canterbury, which you have laid before the Committee, I find it is stated, " The collection is, indeed, a most extra- ordinary one of its kind, and would be a treasure in the stores of the British Museum or of any other public collection, though, perhaps, for a reason which will presently appear, some of the trustees may think a public library of France would be its most appropriate repository ;" are you still of that opinion ? — So far as this ; I endeavoured to furnish myself, while in Paris, with information as to the value and importance of the collection, and 1 found that M. Buchon, who had been the inspector of the archives of France, knew it well, but thought 60,000 francs too large a price. Still it is a very curious and interesting collection. 1390. Entertaining that opinion, do you think, from your own statement, that your exertions to obtain the collection were such as became the principal librarian of the British Museum ? — I did not go to obtain the collection ; I was sent merely to form an opinion of it. 1391. You have stated in that letter that there was a part of the collection of charters in the garrets not catalogued ? — It was a small part ; a collection of bun- dles ; things, as far as I saw, of no general importance. Everything that was of consequence appeared to be catalogued, except a single bundle of about a hundred documents, partly relating to France while in the occupation of the English. 1392. You also state that you could not get at a great part of the collection for want of a ladder ; are you prepared to state that that portion of the collection which you could not get at was contained in the catalogue ? — I have no doubt of it, for the catalogue referred to the cartons which were numbered, and whenever I took down a carton and looked at the charters, I found they agreed with the catalogue. 1393. Are you prepared to state positively, that your examination was of such a nature as to justify your statement, that you have an accurate knowledge of the contents of the collection ? — I can have no doubt of it, for there was a catalogue of all the charters, and I ran my finger down the different pages as the volumes lay beiore me. 1394. But are you prepared to state, as there were portions of the collection not catalogued, that you have a knowledge of the contents of those bundles? — I untied many of the bundles as they laid on the floor and looked at the contents, and found them unimportant. 1395. How long were you there 7 — Between five and six hours. 1396. You are aware the Baron de Joursanvault states you were there only two hours.?— He may state it if he pleases j the only time I ever saw that letter was m print ; I have never seen the original. 479. 'S 2 ^397 Mr. M. Cowian, Sir Henry Ellis, and Rev. J. Forshall. 19 June 1835. Do io8 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. M, Coietan, Sir Henry Ellis, and Rev. J. Forshall. 19 June 1835. 1397. Do you doubt the accuracy of the statement? — I certainly doubt the- accuracy of the statement, for the Baron drove me over from Beaune , between 1 2 and 1 o'clock, and I was at Pomard till the sun went down. 1398. Do you know how these extracts from the letter were published? — I conclude that Sir Thomas Croft might send the extracts to Sir Harris Nicolas. 1399. ^^ y^*^^ doubt the authenticity of the letter? — No, I do not doubt the authenticity, but I deny the accuracy of it ; I suppose that no one would invent a letter; that must be out of question. The Baron must know that he drove me over from Beaune to Pomard between 1 2 and 1 o'clock. It is a very short league. 1400. Do you think the sum first asked by the Baron de Joursanvault, 60,000 francs, was too much for a collection which you describe as a most extraordinary one of its kind, and which will be a treasure in the stores of the British Museum, or of any other public collection ? — I certainly do ; but let me explain myself. There are very few ancient families in this country or France who possess a very large collection of archives. The Counts of Blois were very eminent, and this col- lection, I look upon it, is very like that which w^ill be found in Berkeley Castle, where there has never been an attainder in the family, and where it is probable there are more documents of ancient date than will be found with many other families : but I would ask whether if you carried the ancient documents at Berke- ley Castle to Paris, they would be of half the value for purchase there, as they would be in England. In England they would illustrate the genealogies of half the noble families in the country, but what would they do if they were carried to Paris r 1401. That is not the question, but you state that the collection would be a treasure in the stores of the Museum ; now it would not be a treasure, certainly, if the collections were of no use to the English reader ? — The Counts of Blois were engaged in the wars of the middle ages, and engaged prominently. 1402. Then it would be interesting to English historians? — Not so much to English historians as to French historians. Still the Counts of Blois were engaged in the wars of Europe, and there must be a great deal of curious matter in those charters ; but you will recollect that the charters mainly related to their predial possessions, leases of small portions of land, and so on ; it can only be here and there that a document would be really interesting to English readers. . 1403. Then you are disposed to modify your opinion, that it would be a treasure in the stores of the British Museum ? — It becomes a question of price j it would be desirable to have them in the Museum at a fair price. 1404. There is no reference to price in this letter? — No, but if you will take the whole of the letter together, you will see I do not consider them of sufficient value to give 60,000 francs for them. The deficiency of documents illustrating English history lowered my estimate of their value and importance. 1405. Are you disposed to resolve all questions relating to charters and antiqui- ties into questions of pounds, shillings and pence ? — I think gold may be bouo-ht too dear. 1406. But charters and antiquities are not like gold? — No. 1407. Do you think the price asked by the Baron de Joursanvault in the first instance was too much for that which you have described as a most extraordinary one of its kind, and one which would be a treasure in the stores of the Museum ? — I do ; I think the money might have been better expended upon manv other offers which have been made to the Museum. 1408. I understood you to state that those manuscripts which were not in the catalogue you in the few hours you were at Pomard obtained such an accurate knowledge of, as to know that they were of no importance to English readers ?— I opened many of the bundles, and I found that some of them were literally rubbish. Every now and then a curious thing occurred, but two or three months would not enable a person to go through every charter in the collection. 1409. Would it not have been better if they had employed some one to examine strictly and accurately the uncatalogued portion of the collection ?— I should think not. If the House of Commons takes evidence on such a collection as Mr. Rich's was, you cannot go through every volume, much less every paper. You obtain the best bird's-eye view you can ot the whole. 1410. You have stated there were 149 cartons or band-boxes full of charters and muniments ; are you prepared to state that you could ascertain with accuracy what muniments were in those 149 cartons in the course of the time you were at Pomard?— I never intended going through the cartons; they were all numbered in the catalogue ; the pasteboard boxes had corresponding numbers, and the char- SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 109 ters were numbered successively in their several cartons. I had nothing to do but to ascertain generally whether the charters were there, and I found them cor- respond ill all the cartons I examined. I therefore looked at the catalogues, w^hich were very full and carefully made, containing the titles, dates, and so on. It would have been a waste of time to have gone through the charters. 1411. Do you think you were entitled to report to the trustees that nothing valuable to illustrate English history remained in the collection after your six hours' examination r — Clearly so. I saw a particular bundle which was not alluded to in the catalogues ; it was totally detached. As far as I could learn, it seemed pro- bable that it came from the Garde Meuble at Paris, where the archives of France during the rule of the English were formerly preserved. Most of the records there were thrown out of the windows by the mob in 1789. The charters, &c. of that repository, I understood, became dispersed, and I believe the larger portion got into the possession of a Pole named Dombrousky, and were sold to Russia. M. Buchon told me he knew the Baron de Joursanvault's father ; he was per- fectly acquainted with the collection at Pomard, and he believed that the Baron's father purchased some of the documents alluded to ; that those he conceived were the chief articles relating to English history which were likely to be in the Baron's collection. 141 2. Do you state that from your own knowledge ? — The bundle I have alluded to was the only one that could be found in the collection relating in any way to the English. Not a single charter relating to England or the English rule appeared in the catalogue of five volumes. 1413. To what extent do you speak from your own knowledge, and to what extent from the information of M- Buchon ? — I merely learnt the fact from M. Buchon how the Baron's father had become possessed of a few documents from the Garde Meuble. 1414. Did you learn that fact when you got back from Pomard, or before you went ? — Before I went ; and, as I stated, the whole of this bundle has been pur- chased by the trustees. Instead of laying out 100,000 francs, they paid but 160/. for these charters,- consisting of the bundle which I saw; and for 50/. or 60/. more the Museum has obtained various other documents from the Baron's collection. 1415. You say this bundle was the only one not in the catalogue ; did not you state in the report that there was a general collection of manuscripts, and a small assemblage of black letter and other printed books in the Baron's private study, of which there was no catalogue ? — Yes ; there were two other parts of the collection of which he gave me catalogues. 1416. You say the best bird's-eye view was the only thing that could be obtained ; do you not think that a little more time would have made it a better bird's-eye view than one taken in six hours ? — No ; there was a catalogue of the charters ; all I wanted there was documents illustrative of English history, and I told the trustees before I went ; I told both the Archbishop of Ca;nterbury and The Speaker that I was certain I should not find such, and especially letters between the English an* the French nobility. I was too well acquainted with the nature of ancient correspondence to suppose the assertion of their existence in the collection to be correct. 1417. If you had had a ladder would not you have examined the cartons more minutely ? — I dare say I should ; I asked for a ladder, and tried all I could to get one. 1418. Had you waited another day, could not you have got a ladder ? — I do not think I could, unless I had sent for one from Beaune or Autuo, or some other neighbouring town. Pomard is a village of the most wretched description, and the chateau neglected and decayed. 1419. You have stated that you only went after that portion of the collection ■which you. thought interesting with reference to English history 1 — That was the sole inducement to the journey. 1420. Now I beg to read a passage from the letter which you addressed to the Archbishop of Canterbury, and upon that to ask you, whether, independently of that portion which you conceived to be exclusively interesting to the English his- torian, there was not also a large portion of the collection of the deepest possible interest to English antiquaries in general. It is to the following effect :—" Of the great collection of charters, (and it appeared to me to be larger than all the col- lection of charters at present in the British Museum put together,) I am bound to «ay that I believe them to have formed almost the entire munimaits of the barls of Blois, containing whatever related to their concern in the wars of Europe in the 479. , J- 3 ^^^^^^ Mr. M. Cowtan, Sir Henry Mlis, and Rev J. Forshall. 19 June 1835. 110 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. M. Cowtan, Sir Henry Ellis, and Rev. J. Forshall. 19 June 1835. middle ages, to their predial possessions, their granting out of property and pri- vileges ; sales ; feudal or public acts ; quittances of money for military services , letters patents ; expenses of household ; and every act, material or immaterial, likely to be found in the archives of one of the greater houses of Europe"?— I confess I do not think they would be interesting to antiquaries in general, further than the general history of Europe would go ; they are extremely curious of their kind ; it is certainly a most singular collection. 1421. Do you conceive the history of Europe can be otherwise than interesting to English antiquaries, or that it is not illustrated by documents in which all the details, connected with even household matters, quittances of money for military services, the price of land and other things, are given in detail ?^I gave the cha- racter of the collection in my report to the trustees for them to decide whether they would treat for it or not. I obtained the best information for them, and it was ascertained that the collection could not be worth the sum asked for it ; and please to observe the conditions of the " clause verbale." 1422. When you say it was ascertained, will you state by what means ? — By my own examination and my inquiries of M. Buchon, whom I considered to be a man of the first authority for information in such matters. 1423. Then do I understand that your report to the trustees was made from the authority of M. Buchon rather than from your own examination ? — I never men- tioned to the trustees, I believe, what M. Buchon's opinion was. 1424. You reported your own opinion ? — I reported the condition of the collec- tion, and that I did not find that which I went for. The trustees made their deci- sion accordingly. The purchase of a collection almost exclusively French was never in their contemplation. 1425. Is not the history of France intimately connected with the history of the wars of Europe in the middle ages ? — Yes, it is ; but you must dig the information out of such a collection. It is not to be read by every one. 1426. But can you dig the information out of the collection without possessing it in the first instance ? — Certainly not ; I should have been happy to have seen that collection with us ; but the price asked for it was too great, and the conditions impracticable. 1427. You have stated in the next paragraph of that letter, that you looked in vain for any thing illustrative of English history, except in a single bundle, which seemed unconnected with the cartons ; is the Committee to understand from that statement that the collection of charters described in the preceding paragraph were not illustrative of English history ?— I have already stated that there was nothing illustrative of English history among the charters which were catalogued. Our King Stephen was the last Count of Blois who had any connexion with England. The Counts of Blois had no connexion whatever with England in the middle ao-es, beyond what the wars of Europe might accidentally occasion. 1428. But as these muniments of the Counts of Blois contain details connected with the wars of Europe in the middle ages, do you mean to say that such docu- ments might not be illustrative of English history ?— I read the titles ; I ran my eye down every page of the different volumes of the catalogue, and found that not a single charter had connexion with English history or English families. 1429. Will you give us a specimen of the title of the documents or charters relating .to the wars of Europe during the middle ages ?— They were letters and indentures of military service; I did not copy out the titles of any of them. 1430. Could you from such a title decide upon the contents of the document ?— Yes, certainly, because each charter took up two or three lines. They seemed to be very accurately catalogued. 1431- Are you prepared to state that in the whole contents of these, muniments there is nothing illustrative of English history which you have left behind ^--Cer- tainly nothing illustrative of English history, because the subjects of the charters are all entered, and I should have seen anything relating to English history imme- diately. Ihe Larls of Blois were m no way connected with England : thev had no property m England. • ^ 1432. But they were connected with the wars of the middle ages, and the wars of the middle ages and the history of Europe are intimately connected are they not.^— In a general point of view ; but no part of the great collection of charters at Tomard could be made to bear on English history. 1433- But it still remains to be known what are the contents of that collection with reference to that portion of history ?— I feel certain that if any one were to spend six months there he would find nothing illustrative of English history. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. in 1434. Now, in a subsequent paragraph of that letter you state, " I think I can venture to assert that the bundle I have described is all in this collection referred to as concerning England in Sir Thomas Croft's memorandum " ? — Yes, 1435. But you have stated positively, in the course of this examination, that you left nothing behind you interesting to the English historian ; will you reconcile your present positive decision with the careful expression in that letter ?' — Yes, I will ; I can corroborate it by the Baron's own evidence. The Baron and his friend, the Archiviste of Dijon, spent two years in sifting the collection, and in taking from it everything they could find relating to English history, and they at last sent us that bundle, for which we paid 160 1. ; and afterwards they sent us some charters, which they stated were illustrative of English history, but not one-half of them bore upon it. There were, therefore, two years spent by the Baron and the Archiviste of Dijon in search, and they presented us, in truth, nothing more than the bundle I described. 1436. Did you leave the Baron de Joursanvault under an impression that you would lay your report before the trustees ? — Unquestionably so. He gave me his terms in writing ; which I insisted upon, that there might be no misunderstand- ing when they were laid before the trustees. He understood my French sufficiently to take great pains with his terms. 1437. Can you state what has become of this collection of manuscripts subse- quently ? — I have not heard anything of it lately, but I have no doubt the great collection remains where it was, at Pomard. . 1438. Do you know whether any literary societies of France have attempted to purchase it? — No, I think such an occurrence is unlikely. M. Caesar Moreau, the vice-consul, said to me at the time " such a collection is waste paper for France." 1439. ^^^ ^'^y ^^^^ ^^ money ever made for it ? — 1 suppose not. When I mentioned to M. Moreau that I had been there, he gave the opinion I have quoted, meaning that such a collection would find few or no purchasers in France. 1440. He did not mean to impugn the value of the collection r — Only that it would be valueless, as far as great price went, there. 1441. Then do I understand that this collection, which is described by you as a most extraordinary one of its kind, and which would be a treasure in the stores of the British Museum, was valueless in England and France ; in England, be- cause it did not relate to English history, and in France, because it related to French history ? — It was curious, but not valuable in proportion to its interest. The Revolution had broken up all the old family collections of documents in France, but this was preserved, and was a very large collection. 1442. That does not account for its being of no value? — It is, no doubt, of value, but not of vast money value. 1443. But they must be valuable as literary relics ; it may alter the price to be obtained for them, but their value in the eyes of literary men must remain the same ? — Yes ; but I am looking to the price at which they might be purchased. 1444. When you quote M. Cssar Moreau 's opinion as to their being valueless in France, you merely mean to represent that, from the state and condition of France, they were not likely to find a purchaser there ? — Nothing more. 1445. And you still remain of opinion that they are worthy of being preserved in the British Museum ? — Merely because it is desirable that they should be pre- served somewhere ; that they should not be lost. 1446. Was the Archiviste of Dijon a personal friend of yours? — No, I merely knew his name. 1447. Have you any means of knowing what his estimate of that collection was ? — He was a friend of the Baron de Joursanvault, and I presume his adviser in oifering the collection for sale. 1448. But nothing has transpired subsequently as to its history or estimated value ? — No. The fact was, that at that moment Lord Bridgewater had left a con- siderable sum to the Museum for the purchase of manuscripts. He died in Paris. The substance of his will was well known there, and it seemed natural that persons who had records and manuscripts to part with, should have their attention at- tracted by it. I believe that was really the aim of the Baron de Joursanvault, for I was told as much at Dijon, I said, "for all large purchases the trustees go to Parliament," and the reply was, " O, the trustees have plenty of money ; Lord Bridgewater has left them 7,000 /." In that year, 1829, had the trustees asked for any graat from Parlia- P ^ , ment Mr. M. Cowtan, Sir Henri/ Ellis, and Rev. J. For shall. 19 June 1835. 1449- 112 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. M. Cowtan, merit more than usual, so that you were unwilh'ng to purchase that collection r— Sir Hemy Ellis, No, I believe not ; I went merely to view the collection, not to purchase it. S^^^ 1450. Were the trustees ever offered any Egyptian antiquities, which had been Rev. J. ForshaU. ^^^^^^^^^ ^^ jyjj, gi-jjce ? — I never heard that Mr. Bruce had collected Egyptian 19 June 1835. ^^^^^ Y^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^ ^^ j^jg making any offer to the trustees of his antiquities? —No, I never was aware that he had any. 1452. (To Mr. ForshaU.)— Are you aware of that?— No; I only know that some manuscripts were offered to the trustees. 1453. (To Sir Henry Ellis.)— The offer, I believe, was for the purchase of certain manuscripts ? — Yes. 1454. And you have stated, in your former examination,^ that the trustees declined to purchase them on the ground of the extravagance of the sum asked for them ? — I have. 1455. Who was empowered to value those manuscripts?— No persons were directly requested to value them ; but to ascertain their intrinsic importance, I wrote to Dr. Laurence, now Archbishop of Cashel, and also to Professor Lee, of Cambridge. They had both made a previous examination of those manuscripts, I think, the year before. They had made a very close examination of them, and their letters spoke of the high literary value of those manuscripts. They never named any price, but in conversation with one of those gentlemen I ascertained that they thought them of considerable value, though I should think (it is my own opinion) scarce a tenth part of 25,000 /. 1456. On what ground did you come to that conclusion, that they were only worth 2,500 /. ? — There was a refusal on the part of both those gentlemen to speak of money value ; they declined naming a price, but I thought I gathered an approxi- mation to the price. 1457. Did you bring that offer of sale under the immediate attention of the trustees ? — It was by the desire of the trustees I wrote to those gentlemen respec- tively. 1458. Did the trustees take no other steps to ascertain accurately the value of those manuscripts ?^ — No ; they thought they were referring to the two highest authorities in the kingdom for an opinion upon them. 1459. But those authorities did not put any money value upon them? — They did not put any money value upon them in their letters, but I thought I compre- hended what was really their opinion as to value. 1460. I believe the Book of Enoch was amongst them? — Yes ; but the value of that was very much reduced. In the first place, it is a mere fabulous book, and Mr. Bruce had had three copies of it made ; one he presented to the King of France, and one to the Bodleian Library, and the third we were expected to pay a large sum for, when we could have had a transcript made of that in the Bodleian Library for a moderate price. 1461. Was there not the original among these manuscripts? — I am sure the copy offered was of no age, but a modern trariscript made in Abyssinia. The greater part of Mr. Bruce's manuscripts were copies made by Abyssinian scribes. ■ 1462. But do you know, or can you state of your own knowledge, that the original copy of the Book of Enoch was not amongst the manuscripts offered for sale? — I should think not; because Mr. Bruce's manuscripts had been many years ago, soon after his return from Abyssinia, deposited in our house ; and those manuscripts were well known to Mr. Planta, my predecessor, and to other persons in the Museum. Had the manuscript of the Book of Enoch been ancient, I should have known it. 1463. You have stated, in your former examination, that their value was great,- but not enormous.; will you resolve that distinction into figures, and tell us what you mean by manuscripts of great, but not of enormous value? — I should say, for such manuscripts as those, 2,500/. was a great value. I consider 25,000/. enormous. 1464. Then I again ask you what ground have you for valuing them at 2,500 /. ? —I made up my mind from the communications which I had with the Archbishop Cashel and Professor Lee ; but they both declined to give, and begged they might not be considered as referring to a money value ; at the same time, I received that general information which led me to make up my own opinion. I conclude that I gave it to the trustees at the time, but it would be in conversation only. 1465. Then the trustees never made a serious matter of business of the pur- chase SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 113 chase, but trusted to the representations you made to theqti, and to the commu- nications you obtained from Dr. Lawrence and Professor Lee, who did not put any money value on the collection ? — No. But the trustees desired I would write to Colonel Spicer, by whom the offer was made, to request he would put his price upon the collection ; the trustees, as I have mentioned in the former part of my evidence, never themselves putting a value upon what is offered to them. He took a year and five months, as I have already stated, to return an answer ; and he then named as a price 25,060 /. I really believe that Colonel Spicer calculated that Mr. Bruce's representative should be rewarded for the hardships which Mr. Bruce had undergone in his travels. This might have been perhaps a fair expectation had the application for purchase been made to Parliament, but not in offering them for private sale to the trustees of the British Museum ; at least that is the view I take of it. I conceive he must have valued the hardships Mr. Bruce had under- gone, or he could otherwise never have asked such a price as 25,000 /. 1466. Do you think it is no part of the duty of the trustees of the Museum to take such a subject matter into consideration in estimating the value of the manu- scripts of a distinguished traveller? — •! should think not. We never received a collection estimated in that way but once, and that was the Hargrave collection of books and manuscripts, which was valued by the House of Commons. 1467. Did Mr. Richard Gough, who was a celebrated antiquary, ever offer to endow the Museum with a collection of books and manuscripts relating to Northern and Saxon literature, and British topography ? — He at one time had an intention to leave his collection to the British Museum, but he changed his mind, and left it to the Bodleian Library. 1468. Will you state whether you are aware of any grounds for that change of intention? — No ; 1 was very intimate with Mr. Gough, but he never, that I remem- ber, stated positively the grounds upon which he changed his mind. 1469. Did he desire to be made a trustee of the British Museum ? — I have heard him say he should have been very glad to have been a trustee of the British Museum, but I do not know that he ever took any steps to make his wishes known to the trustees. 1470. Did he in any way, directly or indirectly, connect the presentation of his library to the Museum with the honour of his being named a trustee ? — 'Certainly not. 1471. Are you prepared to state that from your own knowledge? — Yes, because I was very intimate with him, and I never heard him say that he connected the proposal of bequeathing his collection with any such view. 1472. Did he make any offer in writing to the Trustees? — I do not exactly know whether he did or not ; it was at a very early period of my connexion with the J^useum, and before I was secretary. 1473. Will you ascertain whether he did or did not make an offer in writing; and, if so, inform the Comrnittee on a future day of the nature of the offer he made ?— I will. I am not prepared to say whether he did or did not. There was some correspondence, but with whom, whether with Dr. Gray (who was then secre- tary,) or with Mr. Planta, I do not know. I am convinced there was no nego- tiation on his part for a trusteeship. As to the reason of his changing his mind, I may state that I was myself the bearer, without knowing it, of a packet from Oxford, containing an offer from Mr. Price, the keeper of the Bodleian Library, to fit up a room there for Mr. Gough's collection if he would present it to the University; some other collections were to be placed with it, and the whole arrangement to be under Mr. Gough's approval. Mr. Gough had been there some years before, and expressed himself much pleased with the fitting-up of one of the law schools for a library-room ; and I believe he felt so satisfied that the University would accept his library on his own terms, that he made up his mind at once to bequeath it to them. I think the date of his will was very soon after that occurrence. 1474. Do you think that, had the trustees used similar inducements to Mr. Gough, and paid him similar attentions, they might have obtained his collection for the British Museum ? — I doubt it very much. 1 had a great value for Mr. Gough, andknew him well ; but he was capricious, and very often made short turns ; and I cannot say but that he might have changed his mind at any time upon some new proposal being made to him. The trustees would have been very glad to have received his library. ^ 479. Q 147.5- I beliw€ Mr. l\f.. Cowton, Sir Henrv Etiis, and Rev. J. Forshall. 19 June 18^5. 114 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE iMr. 1\]. Coutan, 1475. T believe Mr. Francis Douce had also a valuable collection of manuscripts? S.r Henri/ Euis^ — A Collection of books, manuscripts, coins, &c. Rfv j"fo ^47^- ^^as he not at one time keeper of the manuscripts in the Museum ?— • Yes. 19 June 1831 M77< "hy did he resign ?— I cannot tell you, except that it was his pleasure so to do. 1478. Were there any reasons assigned ? — He never assigned any reason that I remember. 1479. ^^^'^ y^" slate, for the information of the Committee, what reasons M-ere assigned by general report for his resigning his office of keeper of the manuscripts? — I really do not recollect at this moment, but I conceive he felt a disinclination to give up his time, so much as the collection of manuscripts required. He was a strictly honourable man. He preferred ease. He had an independent income, and he retired from the Museum. His health was not alvvaj^s good. 1480. Did Mr. Douce ever converse v\ith you on the subject of his resignation? — I really cannot say whether lie did or did not at this moment, unless anything is brought to my recollection by some other inquiry. 1481. And you are not prepared to state any reason for his resignation of that office ? — No, I am not. 1482. Did he express himself perfectly satisfied with the conduct of the trustees towards him? — I do not think he ever expressed himself dissatisfied with the trustees generally ; there might have been some trustee who had given him offence. 1483. Now, will you state the name of the trustee, and the offence which led to his resignation ? — I can say with certainty there was no resignation from any offence taken. He was whimsical, and apt to murmur. I believe he changed his residence oftener than any man 1 ever knew who had a valuable collection to take with him. I believe it was a generally disturbed habit of feeling which induced him to quit the Museum. 1484. But you have alluded to a particular offence; I wish to know what that offence was, and what was the nature of that difference which led him to resign his situation ? — The offence that 1 alluded to was at an earlier period than anything which could have occurred at the time of his resignation, if anyttiing did cause his resignation. ] 485. Will you state what that was ?— Mr. Abbot, afterwards Lord Colchester, pressed upon him the making of a classed catalogue of the manuscripts. He, first of all, had not a good opinion of such a catalogue; and then he thought it was too much for Mr. Abbot, or the Trustees, to call upon him to make a classed catalogue de novo of all the Museum manuscripts ; for he held the doctrine, that every keeper of manuscripts ought to have the department put into his custody catalogued up to his own time ; that no more ought to be expected from him than to keep up the collections and catalogues during his time of custody. That was the main difference between them. i486. Did he make any representations to that effect to the trustees? No I believe not. 1487. Did he ask for increase of assistance? —No, he did not. 1488. You succeeded him, I believe, in that oflSce? — I succeeded him. 1489. Did you obtain any increase of assistance yourself in that office? Very little. I think I had another attendant. I had no assistant, and only one attendant for many years. 1490. You say this occurred some time previous to his resignation ? Y'es. 1491. And he went on without increased assistance ?— Yes. The resio^nation was sudden and quite unaccounted for at the moment. The trustees were gene- rally desirous to sooth him, and Sir Joseph Banks, I know, as well as others among his friends, remonstrated with him when they found he was desirous to send his resignation in. 1492- Did he ever state to you that in consequence of the treatment he had received he should not leave his manuscripts to the British Museum "—To that question I answer, no, distinctly. 1 do not believe that any friend he had in the world knew where he intended to leave his library ; I believe I should have known It if anybody did, for during the time he was in the Museum I passed two or three evenings with him in every week. 1493. But he did leave them to the Bodleian Library ?— Yes • and I have no doubt he was much influenced by a visit he made to Oxford about 12 months before SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISFI MUSEUM. 115 before his death. He subsequently expressed to me the great satisfaction he felt Mr. l\l. Cmfati, at seeing his old friend Malone's library so vveli placed and taken care of at the Sir Henri/ FMit, Bodleian, and I conceive that he thought that if his own was placed in the same ^-'^ repository, the two combined would make a complete Shakespeare library. I have • '■ ^"''^^'" ''^ always considered that this was his inducement to send his books and manuscripts to ,, . „„, ., f, ,, . ' 19 June 1835. the Bodleian. 1494. Was it because he thought they would be better taken care of at the Bod- leian than at the British Museum? — No, certainly not '495- You do not conceive that Mr. Douce gave his library to the Bodleian, because he thought it wouhlbe better taken care of by the librarians at the Hodleian than by the trustees of the British Museum ?— Certainly not. 1496. You have stated as an inducement to Mr. Douce to leave his books and manuscripts to the Bodleian Library, that he was anxious to make a complete Shake- speare library ? — That is my opinion. 1497. Was any part of the Egyptian antiquities collected by the late Mr. Salt purchased by Sir John Soane r—Yes, the alabaster sarcophagus. 1498. Was that sarcophagus offered gratuitously to the British Museum ? — It was ofibred for purchase, subject to a particular condition. There was a bargain between Mr. Salt and Belzoni, for the latter to have a moiety of any sum above 2,000 /. which the sale of the sarcophagus might produce. Belzoni had had great trouble in procuring the sarcophagus, and was so far considered, I believe, as a part-owner, at least as having a lien upon it. The sarcophagus lay wiih us for a considerable length of time, till a sale of it could be effected. The purchase of it had been declined by the trustees. At last Sir John Soane agreed to purchase it, making a condition that it should be delivered at his house, and it was delivered bv Mr. Bingham Richards, Mr. Salt's agent. 1499. Should you consider Mr. Miilingen a person capable of valuing such a collection of antiquities as that of Mr. Salt? — 1 do not know what Mr. MiJlin- gen's knowledge of Egyptian antiquities may be, but for Greek and Roman anti- quities I believe he has been long consulted by those who purchase them. 1500. Mr. Miilingen states, that according to a fair valuation, 6,000/. would have been a low and not a generous price for the antiquities which Mr. Salt offered to the trustees ; m ill you state why they were rejected when offered to the trustees ? — I do not know the certain reason. 1501. Will you refer to any minute on that subject ? — I believe there is no niinute to refer to. 1502. When an offer is made to the trustees of a valuable collection of antiqui- ties, is there no minute made of that offer? — Yes, of Mr. Salt's first collection, but he divided them into two parts. His agent, Mr. Bingham Richards, agreed to take a certain price for all but the sarcophagus. 'J he sarcophagus was separated. 1503. Is it true that Mr. Salt sent a considerable number of statues and other objects in basalt granite, and various other Egyptian antiquities, and left the price to the generosity of the trustees? — I believe he left them to name the price upon a valuation. 1504. What time elapsed between the dffer of those objects of interest and the decision of the trustees upon them ? — I do not know, because Mr. Salt made his first application to Sir Joseph Banks, and I think Sir Joseph Banks wrote back for explanations. There was a good deal of delayed correspondence between him and Sir Joseph Banks, of which 1 have only an imperfect recollection. 1505. Were a portion of those antiquities actually in the possession of the trus- tees for a considerable period without any answer being given to Mr. Salt ? — The negotiation was conducted by Sir Joseph Banks at that time by letter, and I have no knowledge of it. 1506. Are there any minutes or records of that negotiation ? — I do not know. There must have been a minute of the meeting at which the price was agreed upon. 1507. (To Mr. ForshalL) — Will you furnish the Committee with such extracts from the minutes as relate to the offer made on the part of Mr. Salt, and of the decision of the trustees upon it? — Yes. 1508. (To '&\^ Henry' Ellis.) — Was the alabaster sarcophagus you Ijave spoken of actually in the possession of the trustees for some time?— It was in the possession of the trustees ; that is, it was deposited in the Museum for some time, but the trustees did not at all consider themselves responsible for its custody. 1509. Was not that subsequently purchased by a private individual?— By Sir John Soane. > 479. Q 2 1510- Were ii6 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEEORE THE Ml. M. Covtaii, 1510. Were you aware of what Sir John Soane paid for the sarcophagus and SW lJ<-nn/ Ellis, other Egyptian antiquities which he may have purchased at the same time ? — He rr 1 ,1 bought no other Eevptian antiquities at the same time. For the sarcophagus alone Rev. J. hors/iall. , ** . , . °, K -,1 ^ 1 t 1 c 1 1.1 r^u «. it he paid 2,000/., and I will state why 1 can speak conndentiy or tnat. lie was so ly June 1835. "crvous as to the removal of the sarcophagus that he wrote to me to ask whether the trustees would guarantee the safe delivery of it : I told him certainly not ; the trustees were not the owners of it; that Mr. Bingham Richards was Mr. Salt's agent, and if he wanted a guarantee, it must be from Mr. Richards, that he would safely deliver it. Sir John Soane had drawn a check upon Drummond's to pay for the sarcophagus some days before it was delivered. I saw that check more than once before it was paid to Mr. Richards. 1511. Then a private individual paid 2,000/. for that sarcophagus, one of the most extraordinary specimens of Egyptian antiquities in this country, which the trustees allowed to go out of their custody without having even communicated an answer to Mr. Salt as to the sum they were willing to give for that and his other antiquities? — They had no need to write to Mr. Salt. Mr. Bingham Richards had power from Mr. Salt to treat with the trustees. He came and attended the meeting, and accepted the price for the other antiquities, exclusive of the sarco- phagus. I was present at that meeting. 1512. What was the price he accepted for those antiquities? — I do not recollect, but the minutes of the meeting will show that ; I believe it was 2,000 /. 1513. Who valued the collection which the trustees did purchase? — I am not quite aware ; I think the late Mr. Iknks. His son had travelled in Egypt, and I think they took a great interest in the collection ; but how it was valued I do not remember. 1514. They drove the bargain with Mr. Salt? — Mr. Banks, as a trustee, assisted in bargaining with Mr. Bingham Richards. 1515. Do you conceive that the negotiation was conducted upon those generous and liberal principles which ought to mark the purchase of objects of antiquity possessing national interest between the trustees of the National Museum and a private individual ? — To the best of my recollection they gave the price which Mr. Richards offered them at : at all events Mr. Richards accepted the price proposed. 1516. There being no previous private negotiation between Mr. Richards and tlie trustees ? — I do not know of any ; my memory does not serve me as to the whole of the particulars at that time. 1517. Did you ever hear of Mr. Salt having been dissatisfied with the price given by the trustees ? — I think Mr. Richards seemed to be dissatisfied, probably speaking the sentiments of Mr. Salt. He seemed afterwards to regret that he had not obtained more. 1518. Did Mr. Salt dispose subsequently of a second collection of Egyptian antiquities to the French government? — Yes, I believe so. 1519. Did he make any offer of that collection to the trustees of the British Museum first? — He did not. 1520. Can you state why he did not? — No; I knew nothing of that collection till 1 saw it in Paris. 1521. Mr. Dodwell, I believe, offered a collection of Greek bronzes of the Archaic style, found near Perugia, to the trustees of the British Museum? I do not recollect that. 1522. I will now read an extract from a letter published by Mr. Millino-en in 1 83 1 , on the state of Learning and the Fine Arts in England : — " A curious coltection of the Greek bronzes of the Archaic style, found near Perugia, belonging to Mr. Dodwell, and a celebrated collection of Greek painted vases, including those of Canova, with various bronzes from Pompeii, and the most magnificent specimen existing of gold ornamental painting, belonging to the Ex-Queen of Naples, were offered to the trustees, but rejected " ? — Yes, I remember that, ■ 1523- Will you state whether that fact is so or not, and if so, why they were rejected by the trustees ?— They were offered by Mr. Millengen himself as the agent. There was a gold crown in the collection, and I remember referring txi Mr. Samuel Rogers on the occasion, who had been well acquainted with the collec- tion. The price asked was, if my memory is correct, 14,000/. That collection has been purchased by the King of Bavaria. I do not know my authority, but 1 under- stood it was purchased for 7,000 /., which I think will be a sufficient proof that the price was tpo great for the trustees to entertain when it was offered for 14,000/. ' The SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 117 Tlie positive fact I do not know, but I wrote to Mr. Rogers, expecting you would ask this question, to inquire of hita what had become of it, and he said all he knew was that it was in the hands of the King of Bavaria, but what the King of Bavaria gave for it he did not know. 1524. Did the trustees employ any competent person to make a valuation of that collection ? — The collection was in the neighbourhood of Vienna, and I know the schedule of it, which Mr. Millingen forwarded to the trustees, was referred to several persons who had been acquainted with the coUectioHj but the trustees thought the price extravagant. 1525. Can you, by reference to the minutes, give the Committee any informa- tion as to what were the proceedings of the trustees in reference to that offer 1: — The offer lay before the trustees for a considerable time. I find upon referring to the minutes that the Queen of Naples' collection of antiquities was offered for purchase on June 1 1, 182,5, and the trustees were unable to decide upon it with- out a catalogue. On the 11th February 1826, inquiries were ordered to be made at Vienna respecting it, and the opinions of Mr. Rogers, Mr. Smedley, and others concerning it, directed to be obtained. A communication to Mr. Millingen was also made, that the trustees were not prepared at that moment to negotiate. 15.26. Can you state the price at which this collection was offered to the trustees? — I have mentioned that 1 believe 14,000/. was the sum named. 1527. Is there no record of that in the minutes of the trustees? — Yes ; I find a letter from Mr. J. Millingen was read, offering the trustees for purchase the Ex-Queen of Naples' collection of antiquities. It is ordered that a letter be written to ask the price. Then, 11th February 1826, "Mr. Planta reported that he had received a letter from Mr. Millengen at Paris, offering the collection of vases and bronzes belonging to the Ex-Queen of Naples to the trustees for purchase, at the sum of 3,50,000 francs. Resolved, that Mr. Joseph Planta, junior, be requested to inform the trustees' whether there is any one at Vienna, in the neighbourhood of which the Queen of Naples' collection is, to whom they could refer for any inquiry respecting it, should the trustees have occasion to make such inquiry." I find also that " It is resolved, that it is desirable to procure the opinions of Mr Samuel Rogers, Mr. H. Smedley, Mr. William Hamilton, and Mr. Hulmandel concerning the collection, and that three of the trustees be requested to obtain any information which these gentlemen may be able to obtain respecting it." It is also resolved, " that a letter be written to Mr. Millingen, to inform him that the trustees have directed certain inquiries to be made respecting the Queen of Naples' collection, but they are not at present prepared to enter into any negotiation for such a collection to so large an amount." 1528. Were the Egina marbles ever offered to the trustees of the British Museum r — No. 1529. Never? — Certainly never offered. In the month of July 1812, the late Lord Hardwicke submitted to the consideration of the trustees a printed memo- randum from William Hamilton, Esq., respecting the Egina marbles, then lately discovered, in hope that the trustees would endeavour to prevail upon the Govern- ment to acquire them. The trustees, without hesitation, directed a letter to be written to the Lords of the Treasury, acquainting them that from the accounts received, and the sketches of the marbles which had been laid before the trustees from Mr. C. R. Cockerell, they believed the acquirement of them would be desirable for the Museum. They therefore recommended to the Lords of the Treasury to give General Oakes, the Governor of Malta, a commission to bid for them, at an expected auction proposed to be held on the 1st of November in that year at Malta. The trustees further advised, that my Lords should send some artist or other competent person to assist General Oakes with his advice as to the price he should bid for the marbles. The Lords of the Treasury, without further correspondence with any meeting of the trustees, appointed Mr. Taylor Combe to go. Mr. Combe left London in the month of July, and arrived at Malta on the 16th of October, quite in time to bid for those marbles had they been put up to auction at the intended time. The marbles belonged to four owners. None of the proprietors were at that time at Malta. Mr. Combe waited in expectation that one or other of them would arrive, as the auction still stood for the 1st of Novem- ber. He naturally concluded he should have an opportunity of previously seeing the marbles, which were in the warehouse of a merchant, a Mr. M'Gill : but the 29th of October arrived and none of the proprietors appeared, and then General Oakes and Mr. Combe had all the chests which con,tai."ed the, marbles, but one, 479. Q 3 • opened. Mr. M. Covitim, Sir Henry Ellis, and Rev. J. Forshall. 19 June 1835/ Rev. 11 8 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. M. Coxvtnn, opened. They were centained in 55 chests. Tlie ist of November came ; there Sir //e«ry tlLs, was no auction, no proprietor appeared ; Mr. Cockerell was in Sicily, and the ^"i* other parties were in Greece. Mr. Combe waited till the 5th of November ; he ;. Furshdl. (.Q„(.]^jg(j tl^at his presence would be wanted at the Museum, and as the auction '~ ~ had not been held at the time appointed, and Mr. Cockerell, who had been sent 19 uiie 1 35. ^^^ yvas in Sicily, and returned for answer that he should not be in Malta for some time, Mr. Combe left his commission for price with General Oakes, and embarked for England. I believe the statement in the Edinburgh Review respect- ino- the Egina marbles would make it appear that they were purchased by the Knio- of Bavaria for 8,000 /. ; that was the precise sura that Mr. Combe left as a bidding in the hands of General Oakes, so that there must have been some inter- vention still to be explained, wliich carried those marbles to another country. 1530. Where was the sale to take place? — At Malta. 15:51. It is stated in the article in the Edinburgh Review, to which you allude, that the sale was to take place at Zante ? — Exactly so ; the marbles had been, after their discovery, removed to Zante, but Mr. Combe saw them at Malta in 55 cases, in the warehouse of the merchant I have mentioned. 1532. Was the sale to take place at Malta or at Zante ? — The sale was to take place al Malta. 1533- Of that you are quite certain? — Yes; I never heard of Zante as the place of auction, except in that article in the Edinburgh Review. The printed announcement stated that the sale was to take place at Malta. 1534. It is stated there that the sale did actually take place by auction ? — I believe I am correct in saying there was no auction. Mr. Combe has been long dead, and so has General Oakes. 1 can obtain no better information than I have given. There certainly was no auction at Malta. 1535. Had the trustees ever an opportunity of purchasing those marbles for 6,000/. ? — I am not aware that they had. 1 536. Are you aware that there was a Report of a Select Comraittee of the House of Commons on that subject? — I believe it is alluded to in the Report of the Com- mittee on the Elgin Marbles, 1537. It is stated in Mr. Millingen's pamphlet that " the Egina marbles were first proposed to the trustees of the Museum for 6,000/., and the proposal was accepted, but upon these conditions, that they should be allowed to bring home the marbles to England, and if they were found not worth the money they should have the refusal of" them; and if refused, they should be allowed to be exported, free of duty, to any other purchaser. This offer was not accepted by the parties at Athens, for they said it was a kind of blind baroain, which they did not know what might become of them"; can you state whether that account is correct or not ? — I am convinced that Mr. Millingen must have been misinformed from the beginning to the end. When Lord Hardwicke brought that printed paper, it was the last meeting of the season ; the trustees broke up for the summer, and it was in the November follow- ing the Lords of the Treasury announced to them that they had sent Mr. Combe to Malta. He was not sent by the trustees ; they knew nothing more until Mr. Combe reported the result. 1538- Was Mr. Combe tied by his instructions to purchase them by auction at a given sum, or had he any discretionary power given to him to bid for them in the best Hay he could? — No; he gave his ultimatum, 8,000/., to General Oakes, expressing a wish that if General Oakes could get the marbles for a smaller sum he would, and I suppose Mr. Combe was in duty bound to give that instruction to General Oakes. 1539. I now put into your hands the Report of the Select Committee on the Elgin Marbles, in which you will find a parafiraph relating to the Egina marbles, which appears to differ materially from the paragraph I have read from the pamphlet of Mr. Millingen ; will you read that paragraph, and state generally wliether, in reference to that paragraph, or the paragraph in the pamphlet, you can give the Committee any information? — That Report was drawn up by Mr. Bankes. It says: " The Egina marbles, which were well known to one of the members of your Committee, who was in treaty to purchase them for the British Museum, sold for 6,000 /. to the Prince Royal of Bavaria, which was less than the British Govern- ment had directed to be offered, after a prior negotiation for obtaining them had failed ; their real value, however, was supposed not to exceed 4,000/., at which Lusieri estimated them." 1 540. By that it appears that the Trustees were in negotiation for those marbles for SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 119 for 6,006 /. ?— If the Trustees had been engaged in any previous negotiation for the Mr. M. Coutan, Egina marbles 1 must have known it. ^\t Henry ElHsl V suspect that the printed memorandum delivered to the trustees by the Earl of „ ^j Hardwicke gives the best explanation of the transaction alluded to by the Com- Forsh all. mittee. it says, "When Mr. Cockerell's Hist report of this discovery reached 19 June 1835. England, it was thought very desirable that the marbles should come into the possession of the English Government, and when the drawings of them were received, Mr. Cockerell, the father, addressed a person inhabits of intercourse with the Prince Regent, submitting to his Royal Highness the propriety of Government taking some steps to insure the early purchase of them. " In the letters describifig them, it had been represented that they were supposed worth from 6,000 I. to 8,000/. Mr. Cockerell was authorized to v\rite to his son to offer 6,000 /. from this Government, on the condition that on their arrival in England, either they should be taken for that sum, or liberty given to export them, free of duty, to whatever other place they might be sent, with a view to sale, if they should not be thought sufficiently valuable to become the property of the public. Measures were taken accordingly, and Admiral Sir Edward Pellew was instructed to send a ship of v^ar, or armed transport, to Athens, for the purpose. Accordingly, the Pauline brig of war, Captain Perceval, was ordered to Athens, bearing Mr. Cockerell's letter to his son. " In the interval, the four discoverers (feeling the difficulty of their agreeing upon the country which should become the purchaser, before all had had an equal chance of making an offerj had come to an agreement among themselves, that the marbles should, as speedily as possible, be conveyed to a place of safety, and be kept in charge of one of the Prussian consuls in those parts, till the 1st of November 1812, on which day they were to be sold to the highest bidder, after they had been advertised in all the principal newspapers of the Continent ; it being a part of the agreement that the purchaser shall be bound, within a year of the purchase, to furnish a set of casts of the whole collection to each of the four proprietors. With this view they were conveyed to Zante, and since, it is supposed, to Malta." 1 have a copy of Mr. Combe's report, in which he states that he left a bidding of 8,000 I. 1,541. Can you explain, by any minute of the trustees, how it happens that these marbles were sold to the King of Bavaria for a less sum than the Trustees of the British Museum were disposed to give for them? — No, I cannot, from any know- ledge. 1542. Did Dr. William Hunter, or his executors, ever make any offer for sale of a collection of coins to the Museum? — No; the coins were bequeathed to go after a certain time to Glasgow, where they still form part of the Hunterian Aiuseum. 1543. Do you think there was no offer? — I have no notion that there was any offer, or that there could have been any, unless Dr. Hunter had offered them in his lifetime, which was before my time. 1 544. Did Loi-d Pembroke, or his executors, ever offer a similar collection ? — I do not remember the particulars of that offer. {^^ Mv. Forshall.) — Yes, Lord Pembroke's representatives did offer a collection of coins to the Museum in the year 1828. 1545. Why was the offer rejected? — It was not rejected; the Trustees did all they could to acquire those coins. 1546. At what point was the negotiation broken off? — ^The Treasury refused to give us the money. 1547. Did the trustees represent strongly to the Treasury the value of that col- lection ? — Yes, they did. 1548. Can you remember who was the prime minister of that day? — I think the Duke of Wellington was. 1549. How long ago is that ? — It was in the year 1828. 1550. Can you state the sura at which they were offered? — I think it was about 4,900 /. . . 1551. Did Mr. Sams ever offer to the Trustees a collection of Egyptian antiqui- ties ? — Yes. 1552. Was that offer rejected ? — No j his collections were purchased, and are now in the Museum. ^bSZ- When was that collection purchased ?— Last year. 1554. What was paid for it ? — 2,500/. „r 120 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. M. Coil-tan, Sir Henry Ellis, and Rev. J. Forshall. 19 June 1835. 1555. Was that 2,500 I. a special grant, or a sum paid into the hands of the trustees for that purpose ?— A special grant. 1556. Then no account of it is to be found in the Returns to Parliament? — None whatever. 1557. Were they purchased from Mr. Sams on his first offer? — There was a good deal of negotiation about those antiquities ; not upon his first offer, or at the price he first asked. 1558. Were they in Mr. Sams's hands when they were at last purchased by the trustees ? — Yes. 1559. Was it the same collection as was first offered? — The same; with the addition of a few things which Mr. Sams had purchased at a sale of some Egyptian antiquities by Messrs. Sotheby. 1560. (To Sir Henri/ Ellis.) — Did Mr. Simcoe ever bequeath a valuable col- lection of prints to the trustees of the British Museum, on condition that they should pay a certain sum to his executors? — They were, I think, an illustrated History of Northamptonshire, Lysons's Environs of London, a History of St. Albans, and another work or two illustrated, but we declined them. 1561. On what grounds did you decline them? — To the best of my recollec- tion. Lord Spencer, whose knowledge of Northamptonshire was, I suppose, as good as any person's, considered that that work was not worth any vast portion of the price. 1562. Were the books so bequeathed afterwards sold by auction ? — I heard they were afterwards sold by auction, and they brought more than Mr. Simcoe had valued them at to us. 1563. Can you state how much more? — I do not recollect. 1564. Was it not nearly double the sum? — I think not; I think he offered them for 500 1., and they may have sold for 700 /., or more. 1 5^5- Was not the fact that they were offered for 500 /. and sold for goo I. ? — I do not recollect what the difference was. 1566. Did the Trustees reject these works on the opinion of Lord Spencer? — I think so, as far as the History of Northamptonshire went. Many of the draw- ings were very rude; it was a collection of every kind, good and bad ; I know the bad predominated. 1567. Did the trustees take any other opinion except that of Lord Spencer upon that collection of books illustrated with prints ? — They ordered Mr. Smith, who had the charge of the Museum print-room, to make a report upon the whole of these illustrated volumes. A copy of his report shall be presented on another day. 1568. when sold by auction were they sold separately? — Probably not, but I have no knowledge of that. ] 569. You do not know who bought them ? — No. 1570. Did Belzoni ever offer any collection of antiquities to the Museum? — I never recollect hearing of such a collection. His name was mixed up in Mr. Salt's offer. I do not think there was any separate offer from himself. Belzoni's own collection was sold by auction. 1571. Did the trustees take any steps to avail themselves of Sir George Nayler's collection of genealogical and heraldical manuscripts ? — I do not think they were offered in a mass to the trustees. The trustees made considerable purchases at Sir George Nayler's sale of what they wanted. 1572. Was there any private negotiation upon that subject first? — None. 1573. Did Mr. William Upcott ever offer to the Museum any collection of manuscripts ? — A collection of autographs. 1574. Did the trustees entertain his offer?— (By Mr. Forshall.)— lexaminei Mr. Upcott's manuscripts partially, and looked carefully through the catalogue of them, and the trustees having heard my opinion on the subject of these manu- scripts, declined to give the price that was asked for them. 1575- What price was asked by Mr. Upcott ?— There were two offers made to the trustees ; the first, of a portion of the manuscripts for 470/., the other, of the whole collection. I am unable to state at this moment the price demanded for the whole collection, but it was a large sum ; I think 2,000 /. 1576. Was there not the original Treaty of Nimeguen amongst them? Yes, there was one of the originals ; there were several parties to the Treaty of Nime- guen, and probably, therefore, there was more than one original copy of the treaty, 1577. Did the trustees enter into any negotiation with Mr. Upcott, witli a view to SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 121 to the reduction of the price? — No, I think not; the price seemed to be so large that there was little hope of bringing any negotiation to a satisfactory conclusion. 1578- (To Sir Henry Ellis.) — Suppose that any curiosity is offered to be pur- chased by the trustees of the British Museum, to the extent of 5,000 /. and upwards, is it their practice, or do they consider themselves authorized to contract for the purchase of it without making an application to Parliament?—! should think not ; I think under 2,000?. I have known them apply to the Treasury, but generally When a price rises above 2,000/. the Minister recommends going to Parliament. 1579. Supposing that they go to Parliament to make an application for, a grant for the purchase of any curiosity, do they not think it necessary previously to making the application to arm themselves with some powerful authority which shall enable them to state to Parliament that they are fully warranted in recom- mending them to make such a purchase ? — They usually take opinions and advice as to the importance of the article which is brought before them, so far as to jus- tify them in making the application to Parliament, but they leave Parliament to estimate the money value of the article from other evidence. 1580. Have you known any instances of their making any application to Parlia- ment for the purchase of curiosities at a very large sum, leaving Parliament to ascer- tain whether the price so asked was a very extravagant price or not ? — They always, in the cases I have mentioned, leave it to Parliament to ascertain the money value. 1581. Do they in all cases, previously to making the application, satisfy their own minds that the price asked is a fair price for such an article ? — I hardly know how to answer that question. They take care to obtain such evidence as will justify their application to Parliament. They always fortify themselves with evidence as to the importance of the acquisition. Mr. M. Cowfan, Sir Henry tlUs, and J Rev. J. Forsfidll. 19 June 1835. LuncE, 22° die Junii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Sir Henry Ellis, called in ; and further Examined. 1582. YOU stated you went to Pomard to examine the library of the Baron de Sir Hemy Ellis. Joursanvault ; can you state what expenses were incurred by that journey of yours ? ■ -7-The expenses incurred by that journey amounted to 7 /. 8 s. 1 1 J. 22 June 1835, 1583. Did you receive any remuneration for your trouble or any compensation ? — No remuneration nor compensation whatever. 1584. In 1823 an article appeared in the Edinburgh Review, in which I find the following statement : "When the College of Surgeons commenced furnishing their museum, they obtained an order from the trustees of the British Museum for such objects of natural history as could be spared from the latter collection. Unfortunately Dr. Shaw stumbled on these cases, and they were sent to the museum of the College. It was afterwards deerfied prudent by that body to confine their collections to subjects of human and comparative anatomy; and a well-known collector having in his possession many skeletons and other articles suited to the purposes of the College, agreed to exchange them for specimens more adapted to his already magnificent collection ; and we are told that the cases containing Sir J. Banks's collection, which had remained, it seems, unopened at Surgeons'- hall, were, en masse, consigned to him for his anatomical preparations." Will yoiti inform the Committee whether that statement be correct or not, or give any ex- planation of it which may happen to be in your power ? — In the year 1 824 Mr. Grey Bennet brought the subject of your present inquiry before the House of Commons. At that time Sit Charles Long, now Lord Farnborough, defended the Museum against this charge, quite to the satisfaction of Mr. Grey Benftet, as Sir Charles Long afterwards assured me. The transaction alluded to took place, I believe, in the year 1812. In fact, Sir Joseph Banks never gave any great col- lection of ornithology to the British Museum. There never was a sifigle case of ornithological specimens, and no packing-case whatever, nor any specimens receAtly taken out of packing-cases, transferred in 1812 by the British Museum to the Col- lege of Surgeons. 1585. It appears that this applies to the year 1823?— 1823 was the date of the Review, but 1812 was the date of the transfer of the articles. 479- R 1586. Was 122 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis. 1586. Was there no transaction which occurred in that or any other year which ■ might be considered the basis of this statement ? — There was a transaction which 22 June 1835. no doubt formed the basis of that statement. The College of Surgeons was char- tered, I think, about the year 1 800, and soon after that the Government purchased Mr. John Hunter's collection of anatomical preparations, and fixed that collection at the College of Surgeons as a museum of comparative anatomy. The British Museum possessed a certain number of articles, which it was thought would be very desirable for the College of Surgeons to possess ; and as they were a chartered body, supported in part by the Government, it was concluded that the trustees might with propriety transfer them, because such articles were likely to be of use to anatomical students, and could not be shown in our house ; they could not be exhibited to the visitors of the Museum, because many of them were, in truth, dis- gusting to the community in general. I recollect that the mass of articles which were transferred to the College of Surgeons consisted of specimens of diseased bones, injections and preparations; hair-balls from the stomachs of cows and horses; calculi ; some of them of great size. There were human foetuses at various periods of gestation ; malformations ; some of calves and mice ; and puppies and kittens, in spirits, without number. There were lizards, toads, and frogs; several skeletons; one or two Teneriffe mummies ; and, I think, one damaged Egyptian mummy. These were, of necessity, placed in a room on the basement story ; they could not be made accessible to general visitors. In the then state of the Museum establish- ment it was not always convenient to take anatomical students down to them ; and, in fact, very few anatomical students ever asked to see them. The trustees, there- fore, thought they were performing their duty to the public by transferring such articles to the College of Surgeons, rather than suffer them to remain in the base- ment story of the Museum. There were a number of birds in bottles, large and small, and among these bottles were one or two which, I believe, from being large and of green glass, covered with dirt, were probably mistaken by the person who wrote that review for packing-cases. I made inquiry at the time of Mr. Bullock, for Sir Charles Long ; I made inquiries, also, of other persons ; and I found the number of skins of birds contained in these bottles were few ; 1 have heard not more. than six. They were in a very bad state; they had formed no part of Sir Joseph Banks's original collection brought to the Museum, but they were a portion of a small museum which he had reserved for himself, but which, in 1792, he divided between Mr. John Hunter and the British Museum, giving Mr. John Hunter the specimens of animals, their heads, feet, viscera, &c., which he had preserved in spirits during his voyage, together with other things of the same kind which had been given to him after Captain Cook's and other navigators' later voyages. What Mr. John Hunter did not take, he sent, I beheve chiefly in bot- tles, to the British Museum ; and I was perfectly satisfied, in 1824, that the cases alluded to in the Edinburgh Review were nothing more than a few bottles contain- ing skins of birds. It is true that the College of Surgeons did part with the skins contained in the bottles alluded to, to Mr. Bullock ; but what Mr. Bullock gave for them was not a large sum. I believe the compensation was some fossil bones of the mammoth, which were valued at the most at 2 /. or 3 /. 1587. Then you think that was the basis of the reviewer's statement, and that the statement itself is to be considered as totally erroneous? — Yes, as totally erroneous from the beginning to the end. 1588. That none of the collection received by the Museum from Sir Joseph Banks was ever transferred to the College of Surgeons without havino- been exa- mined?— Not only examined, but Sir Joseph Banks himself was the*person who drew up the report recommending these things to be sent to the Colleo'e of Suf- geons, and was actually himself the person who sent them there. " 1589. It is stated in the same account, that those articles which were so trans- ferred, were subsequently put up to sale by public auction, and that Dr. Leach, who was at that time assistant-keeper in the department of natural history, re-pui-chased some of .those articles which had been so transferred from the British Museum ?— ' It is very true that Dr. Leach purchased some birds, which the reviewer supposed to be those which had been taken out of the bottles, but of which there is no proof. The fact is this: in the catalogue of Mr. Bullock's collection, sold in 1810, there were eight lots, consisting altogether of nine birds, which had the name 'of Sir Joseph Banks associated with the.n ; these were considered to be the birds I have spoken of, which were taken out of the bottles, and Dr. Leach certainly purchased three or four of the eight lots. You will find in Hansard's Parliamenta'ry Debates, in SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 123 in 1824, that Sir Charles Long, in his reply to Mr, Grey Bennet, said I had Six Henry Ellis. assisted him in 'the inquiry which was made at that time, and that I had referred him to Mr. Bullock, and from his conference with Mr, Bullock it was clear that 22 June 1835. Dr, Leach could not have laid out at that sale more than 37 l. los. I am of opinion myself, that Dr. Leach did not lay out more than lil. 12s. 6d. A con- siderable sum was certainly laid out at that sale for other articles, but not for birds. 1590. Then, in point of* fact, there is some ground for supposing that a portion of Sir Joseph Banks's collection was transferred by the Trustees to the College of Surgeons ; that that portion was. put up to sale by public auction ; and that it was purchased by the Trustees for the Museum ?— By Dr. Leach ; and whatever Dr. Leach had purchased I should not have wondered at, because even at that time he showed great eccentricity. I am one of his trustees at the present moment j and I think it very allowable to suppose that Dr. Leach might, in regard to any purchases at that time, have acted injudiciously. 1591. I am not impugning Dr. Leach's judgment ; I merely want to ascertain the fact, whether any portion of Sir Joseph Banks's collection was transferred by the Trustees to the College of Surgeons, by them put up to sale by public auction, and by the trustees purchased for the Museum ? — No ; the skins of birds alluded to, were transferred by the Trustees, under the directions of Sir Joseph Banks, to the College of Surgeons. I believe it is stated in the review, that the supposed cases were transferred unopened to Mr. Bullock, but in fact the skins were taken out of the bottles before they were given to Mr. Bullock in exchange for the fossil bones. Certain lots of birds were put up to auction at the general sale of Mr, Bul- lock's museum, and Dr, Leach purchased three such lots, one for 5 L lO-s., .another for 2 I. 12 5. 6d., and another for 3/. 10 .s., making altogether 11 I. 12 s. 6 d. All these lots had the name of Sir Joseph Banks attached to them in Mr. Bullock's catalogue, but whether they were the birds, some of which are described to have fallen to pieces when they were taken out of the bottles, it is impossible for any one to say. Sir Joseph' Banks was in the habit of making presents to Mr. Bullock, and it is not unlikely that the birds which were sold were such as he had presented himself to Mr. Bullock. There is no certainty whatever that the birds purchased by Dr. Leach were the birds alluded to in the review. 1592. Were there any other articles handed over to the College of Surgeons which had been looked over by Sir Joseph .Banks ? — None beyond the collection which I have named. 1593. Will you state what those articles were which were parted with under the direction of Sir Joseph Banks ; as it has been substantially, in the last question, stated that Sir Joseph Banks looked over that portion of the collection which was transferred to the College of Surgeons? Am I to understand that Sir Joseph Banks gave his personal superintendence, and that he was aware of every article so transferi'ed ? — He not only gave his personal superintendence, but he made a written report to the trustees at a meeting : it was signed with his name. The business stood over for a year or two, in consequence of his passing through two fits of the gout before he could make the report ; and the transfer was delayed on his account. 1594. Then you mean to say, according to your knowledge, that no portion of Sir Joseph Banks's collection, of any value to the Museum, particularly no portion of the ornithological collection, was transferred, and was subsequently sold, and purchased by the trustees? — No, not further than I have mentioned. 1595- Will you state how far you have mentioned? — I have mentioned there were one or two bottles containing what we were given to understand at the time of Mr. Grey Bennet's motion, consisted of a few skins of birds. 1596. Then do I understand you to say that Sir Joseph Banks was himself a party to sending away a portion of his own collection, which was subsequently purchased by the trustees ? — Certainly ; every thing was laid out by his direction. Sir Joseph Banks made a written report, and gave directions for the transfer, 1597. How do you account for Sir Joseph Banks sending any portion of his own collection away, and how do you account for the trustees re-purchasing it?— At the time he gave these birds, in 1792,. they were considered as not in a state to be set up ; they were kept in the bottles as he had kept them. He got rid of that portion of his museum, and a few other articles. 1598/ Then why did the trustees re-purchase them ?— I conceive they were not le-purchased. I conceive there were other birds which had Sir Joseph Banks s name attached to them, in Mr. Bullock's catalogue ; and because Pr. Leach pur- 479. B 2 chased 124 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFOBE THE Sir Henry Ellis, chased birds having Sir Joseph Banks's name attached, and it was know-n that cer- ' tain skins of birds had been transferred by the College of Surgeons to Mr. Bullock, 22 June 1835. a report was sent abroad that Dr. Leach had re-purchased the , skins of birds so given by us to the College : but there was no proof whatever adduced by which you could identify those skins of birds. 1599. But I understood you to make an exception as to one or two bottles ; will you then state whether I am or not to understand that exception to comprise a por- tion, however small, of Sir Joseph Banks's collection which was so transferred, so sold, and so re-purchased? — It was part of an .insulated gift from Sir Joseph Banks, in the year 1792. It was no part of the collection which he gave ,us on his return from his voyage. 1600. Is that the only answer you can give? — I hardly know what answer I can give, beyond what I have already stated. 1601. It is stated in this review that Dr. Leach laid out 400 /., and that he pur- chased some specimens of uricommon and splendid birds. Now, can you at all state whether the College of Surgeons had any such specimens of birds in their collec- tion from any other source than the British Museum ? — No ; they parted with them because those skins seemed to them to have been sent by mistake. • The Col- lege received no articles in natural history from us, except those of comparative anatomy : they received nothing except those bottles, which were supposed, I take it for granted, to contain malformations, or something of that kind, of birds; but when they found they were birds' skins, they subsequently parted with them to Mr. Bullock. i6o2. Then I am to understand, from your present answer, that the contents of these bottles were not known to the trustees ; or otherwise, it must have been known whether they were specimens or malformations of the anatomical structure of birds ? — The whole was left to Sir Joseph Banks. 1 603. That does not answer the question ; was the contents of the bottles known ? — I cannot answer that ; I conclude the contents were known. 1604. It is true then that they were sent away, and that they were re-purchased by the trustees again ? — No, that is a matter which I doubt of very much ; for what Dr. Leach purchased were birds which had been set up by the stuffer. ; . 1605. I distinctly then understand you to inform the Committee, that no portion of Sir Joseph Banks's collection was transferred and re-purchased again by the trustees, as stated in this review r — That is my belief, but I have no proof beyond what I have stated, that there were birds purchased at Mr. Bullock's sale ; but whether they were part of those articles transferred, or whether they were birds which Sir Joseph Banks had given to Mr. Bullock, (for Sir Joseph gave him numerous things continually,) whether they were one or the other, it is impos^ sible for any one to say assuredly : but the only articles which Dr. Leach bought at that sale, in the form of birds, which had the name of Sir Joseph Banks attached to them, were three lots, amounting to 11 /. 12 s. 6 c?. I may add, that the birds in Mr. Bullock's collection were almost all sold in one day ; and there w^ere only eight lots of birds which had Sir Joseph Banks's name associated with them.. 1606. Was any portion of the collection transferred by the trustees to the College of Surgeons, not enumerated in the catalogue or list made out by Sir Joseph Banks of that portion of the collection to be transferred? — There was neither catalogue nor list that I ever saw or heard of; there was a report from' Sir Joseph as to the articles which he considered ought to be tranferred for public advantage to the College of Surgeons ; and I know the first class began with bones which were examples of diseases, and he went on to the several human and brute malformations, and classes of that description, finishing with birds and other ani- mals in spirits. The report was general, occupying about six or eight folio pa\r Henry EUis Stated to be by Sir Henry Ellis? — If Mr. Millard had been an efficient assistant, and I should never have recommended his services being discontinued. Rev. J. Forsh all. ^g^^ r^^^^^ ^^^ ^.g-^j. ^^^^ gjj. jjg„,.y ^^^is, in considering that Mr. Millard 22 June 18 ^^^ ^^^ ^^ efficient assistant ?~Certainly.— (By Sir Henry Ellis.)— I prefaced my 35. obsgj.yajiQjjg ^Yij.}j (.jje remark, that Mr. Millard was not acquainted with manu- scripts when he came to our house ; and on that account I gave him the Hargrave catalogue first, and the Lansdowne afterwards, for those catalogues were well made, and there was very little trouble in forming the index from them. He afterwards went to the Harleian catalogue, and up to a certain extent that catalogue was in good condition ; and I was in hopes that he would have studied old manu- scripts, so as to have felt his way with the work ; for when he came to the Museum he was entirely unacquainted with manuscripts. 1840. He might be very fit for indexing catalogues, without being fit for making the catalogues tliemselves ? — Yes. 1841. How long was Mr. Millard in the Museum ? — He was nearly three years under me. I lent him at that time Spelman's "Archaismus Graphicus," to enable him to become familiar with the contractions of manuscripts. 1842. During what length of time was Mr. Millard employed by the trustees of the Museum? — I think he was with us until 1833. 1 843. Was he employed during a period of about nine years ? — Yes, thereabouts ; between eight and nine years. 1844. Do you consider that he acquired any additional expertness or facility from the making of the catalogue of manuscripts ? — I should think he must have made himself more acquainted with manuscripts than at his first beginning, but he was not with me after 1827. During the time he was with me the catalogues he was employed upon were such, that he could index without requiring knowledge of manuscripts, and Mr. Forshall must speak to the rest. 1 845. (To Mr. Forshall.) — Now, will you state to the Committee why Mr. Mil- lard was dismissed ? — I have already given, I think, quite sufficient reasons to the Committee for the discontinuance of Mr. Millard's services. 1846. What was the leave of absence which IMr. Millard obtained from the trustees for the recovery of his health ? — Six months, as far as my recollection goes. 1 847. And what was the actual time of his absence ? — About the same time, or it was a little short of it ; I believe it was a little short of it. 1848. Upon his restoration to health, what reason was assigned for his discon- tinuance as an assistant employed in the Museum ? — I do not think his health was restored. 1849. How did you ascertain that ? —His eyesight was very bad, and he was unable to employ himself during a great portion of the day, as was evident to all persons, upon the work assigned to him. 1850. (To Sir Henry Ellis.) — Do you concur in that? — Decidedly. 1 85 T . (To Mr. Forshall.) — That was the sole and single ground upon which you thought it expedient, as keeper of the manuscripts, to discontinue his services ? — I think that was quite a sufficient ground for the trustees to discontinue his services. 1852. Was that the sole and single ground upon which you thought it right to discontinue his services ?— No ; it was not the only ground on which I thought his services might be discontinued. 1853. Will you state to the Committee what other reason you had, and what reason you assigned to the trustees as the ground work of your recommendation for his dismissal r— I thought more efficient services could be obtained for the amount of remuneration given to Mr. Millard, putting aside the point of ill health. 1854. Did you communicate that to Mr. Millard, and had he an opportunity of continuing at the Museum at a lower salary? — I do not suppose that I did commu- nicate to Mr. Millard my opinion of his efficiency, nor should I think it necessarv, in a case of that kind, to do so. i85.5- Then, because a man is paid too highly, he is dismissed without any com- munication to him ? — That was not the case ; it might be, that Mr. Millard's ser- vices could be of very little avail, the work for which he was specially engaged beino- discontinued; indeed, considering the state of his health, of so little avail in another description of service as not to be desirable. 1856. Not in a humbler department of the Museum?— Not in any situation that he would have accepted. 1857. Did SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRmSH MUSEUM. 139 1 857. Did you give him an opportunity of accepting any other department ? Sir Henry Ellis — No. ai^l o o -r-v 1 1 1 1 • 1 • 1 'R.&x. J. Forshall. 1058. Uid you make a report on the subject to the trustees, without any com- — munication with him ? — Yes ; that report was not intended by me to bear directly 22 June 1835. upon Mr. Millard's case. 1 859. What report does touch Mr. MillarflM case ? — None whatever, except that referred to in my last answer. 1 860. Was there then a verbal communication to the trustees ? — The disconti- nuance of the work for which Mr. Millard had been engaged was the result of a discussion which took place among the trustees, in consequence of that report, and of the minute inquiries the trustees made of me, being present before them, as to the real condition and requirements of the manuscript department. i86i. And that inqiiiry is not recorded ; was it a mere verbal and personal in- quiry ? — The inquiry is not, but the result of the inquiry is recorded. 1862. What is that result ? — It is in the minutes of the trustees. 1863. What is the minute? — I will give you the substance of it as nearly as I can, namely, that it was not expedient at present to continue the general index to the collections of manuscripts. 1864. Then the representations that you made to the trustees in reference to Mr. Millard's efficiency and literary and general value to the Museum were made to them wholly and entirely without any communication to the assistants under your superintendence ? — Without any communication to Mr. Millai'd, but not "without any communication to other officers in my department. 1 865. But without any communication to the individual who was most inter- ested ? — Certainly. 1 866. You gave him no opportunity of stating his own case ? — He had opportu- nity enough, for he was retained by the trustees two years after that in their service, and therefore he had many and the fullest opportunities of stating his case. 1867. Was he aware for two years after your report recommended the discon- tinuance of his services? — I have already stated that my report contained no recommendation of that kind ; but Mr. Millard was aware that his services were to be discontinued, and I presume his natural inference would be, that some person in authority had so recommended. 1868. What opportunity had he of stating his c^se to the trustees? — Any statement which he chose to make would immediately have been laid before the trustees. 1869. Was any such memorial presented?— Yes, there was. 1870. Was there any minute made of the proceedings on that memorial? — Yes, as a matter of course. Mr. Millard was first allowed twelve months to seek some other employment, and then, upon his application, he was allowed a second twelve months. I hope the Committee perfectly understand that there was no private motive or feeling of any kind which influenced me in recommending the disconti- nuance of the work for which Mr. Millard was engaged. I had no other feeling towards him then, nor have I now, than that of kindness. 1871. At the time of his dismissal, was there any inferior situation in the Museum vacant which might have been offered to and accepted by Mr. Millard ? — No, I think no situation inferior in point of the duties required in it, which Mr. Millard would have thought of accepting, or I should have thought of proposing to him [Mr. Mawer Cowtan produced an Account of the Expenses of Messrs. Baber and Kmig to Munich ; also, an Account of the Sum paid for Baron MolVs Books and other articles. — See Appendix, No. 12,] /- 479- T 2 140 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Veneris, 26° die Junii, 1835. T G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. The Rev. /. Forshall, called in ; and further Examined. Kev. J. Forshall. 1S72. DO you produce any Papers which the Committee called for on a former day ? — Yes ; the first paper contains an extract from the will and codicil of the Earl a6 June 1835. of Bridge water, so far as the same concerns the Trustees of the British Museum. The next is a copy of a minute of a committee of the Trustees, dated March loth, 1832, directing the appropriation of part of the dividends arising from the Earl of Bridgewater's property bequeathed to the trust. The third paper is a statement of the application of all the proceeds which have arisen out of the Earl of Bridge- water's devise. I have next to put in several papers relating to the purchase of Mr. Salt's first collection of Egyptian Antiquities : the first paper is a copy of a minute dated February 13th, 1819 ; the next is a copy of a minute of a general meeting of the same date; the third is a copy of a minute dated February igth, 1820 J also, another minute dated May 11th, 1832 ; and lastly, a minute of a sub- committee dated 23d February 1823, at which sub-committee the trustees agreed to purchase Mr. Salt's collection, for the sum of 2,000 /. ; the minute states, that Mr. Bingham Richards, on the part of Mr. Salt, agreed to accept that 2,000 L, and the money, I find, was paid in the .June following. [The above Papers are given in and read. — See Appendix, No. 20.J Sir Henry Ellis, called in ; and further Examined. Sir Henry Ellis. 1873. I BELIEVE you Stated, that you thought the general index to the manu- scripts, commenced under your direction, a desirable work ? — I said that a classed catalogue of books was a desirable work, but my evidence, I believe, did not go to the general index to the manuscripts. I do not mean to say that it would not be a desirable thing to have an index to the manuscripts of the Museum, but I believe my answer referred entirely to a classed catalogue of books. 1874. What is your opinion then of the general indp to the manuscripts, which I believe was commenced under your directions? — Lcfrd Colchester first proposed to me a classed catalogue of our manuscripts, similar to the intended classed catalogue of printed books, but manuscripts are so totally different in their contents and arrangement from printed books, that I convinced him that such a classification could not be accomplished. I said, if you will make ti general index to the manu- scripts, under such heads as the manuscripts themselves direct, you will make a very useful work ; but it will be a long and laborious undertaking. Lord Col- chester was so intent upon having a classed catalogue of some kind, that he came into the plan, and I believe it would be a very useful work if completed. 1875. That is, a general index ? — Yes ; Lord Colchester having thus originated the plan, inquired for some person to make the index. The Rev. Mr. Home re- commended Mr. Millard to him, and 1 received a letter from Lord Colchester to say, that he had found a fit person, and to desire that his name should be laid before the trustees. That was the origin of Mr. Millard's appointment. 1876. Now at the time you suggested that general index to Lord Colchester, did you make any calculation as to the extent of the cost of the labour and the expense before it was completed ? — It was impossible. 1877. Both with reference to the time it would take and the cost of it? I con- sidered it would be impossible to come even to an approximation, till a portion of the work had been completed. 1878. And in that way, and that alone, Mr. Millard was selected for the pur- pose?— In that way alone. I beg to add another word: it was represented that Mr. Millard had made several indexes to Reports of the House of Commons, and he came recommended as a person who had been accustomed to make indexes. 1879. By whom was that represented? — I do not know, but I believe by Mr. Home. •' 1880. Represented to you or to the trustees?— To Lord Colchester. 1881. Did you receive your information as to that representation from Lord Colchester?— I believe from Lord Colchester, with Mr. Home's corroboration. 1882. Then, SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 141 1882. Then, not having known anything of Mr. Millard before, and receiving Sir Henry Ellis. only that sort of representation which you have described from Lord Colchester, when Mr. Millard came into the service of the Museum, did you take any parti- 26 June 1835. cular pains, or any means to ascertain what were the qualifications of Mr. Millard for such a purpose ? — I found that Mr. Millard was not at all acquainted with manu- scripts ; I recommended him, therefore, to make himself conversant with them, and, as I stated on a former day, I lent him a manuscript copy, which I possess myself, of Sir Henry Spelman's " Archaismus Graphicus," a work explanatory of the contractions found in manuscripts, which Sir Henry Spelman had drawn up for the use of his sons. I lent it to him, and recommended him to copy it for his own advantage, and return it to me in two months ; and there is a pencil-mark still remaining in that manuscript, from the time I lent it, "to be returned to Henry Ellis in two months." 1883. Then previous to your having lent that book to Mr. Millard, and during the continuance of these two months, he was altogether unqualified to have made that general index which you had suggested to Lord Colchester ? — Not so ; because the Hargrave and Lansdowne catalogues of manuscripts were, I will not say so per- fectly, but so fully and sufficiently made, that there was no occasion, for a considerable length of his work to come, for him to refer from the catalogues to the manuscripts themselves. He had solely, in the Hargrave catalogue, to index what was before him in print ; the same in the Lansdowne catalogue ; and I formed a hope, that by the time he had finished the Lansdowne, and had got a little forward in the Harleian catalogue, he would have made himself so far master of the old hands, in which the manuscripts are written, that should any difficulty occur, he might have gone to the manuscript itself, and even corrected the entry in the catalogue, if it had been necessary. 1884. What length of time do you think it would occupy him to get through these portions which you describe, and which appear to be the work of a copyist or a mechanical work, and not requiring much skill or intellectual power ? — I consider that two or three years might have been expended in going through the Hargrave and Lansdowne catalogues. 1885. It would take two or three years to go through that process which you describe ? — I conceive so ; and by that time, with very little diUgence, he might have made himself sufficiently acquainted with the contractions to read whatever manuscripts he might have had occasion to refer to as he went on. 1 886. Then you consider that portion of the work as of a very inferior descrip- tion ? — Of itself, certainly. 1887. That you consider to be of an inferior character to the rest? — Yes; be- cause less qualification is required in the person indexing than would be required when he got further on in the catalogue. 1888. Then under all the circumstances you did not contemplate that Mr. Millard would be able to undertake the higher departments necessary for the formation of that index, under two or three years ? — I should have said in a year, if he had chosen, he might have made himself competent to the succeeding part of his work. 1889. But altogether incompetent at the time of his appointment? Certainly. You are aware there is great difficulty in finding persons fit to catalogue manu- scripts, and that most people who attempt to read the contractions, when they begin, find it difficult, but gradually become acquainted with the manuscripts, and then their work is easy. 1890. When you say altogether incompetent, will you state what you mean ? — I mean not competent. 1 891 . Do you mean that he was altogether incompetent to undertake that higher branch of the work to which you have referred, or do you mean to say that he was as well qualified as any person that you were likely to "find for the purpose to under- take the inferior and mechanical process, which you have also referred to with regard to the Hargrave and Lansdowne catalogues ? — No ; I merely mean to say, that he had never been accustomed to manuscripts before he came to that index ; and I have no doubt that very little diligence would have qualified him to carry it on, had he chosen to give his mind to the examination of manuscripts as he went on. 1892. Supposing that you had been directed by the trustees to find a person to .make the catalogue, which you have described as being a very useful work, should you have selected Mr. Millard, and considered yourself justified in recommending him to the trustees as a fit and proper person to undertake that work i — Not 479. T 3 unless 142 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Benry Ellis, unless he would have submitted to be instructed in the nature and contents of the -^ manuscripts, and the different handswriting. 26 June 1835. 1893. In the selection of a person to undertake that work, is it necessary for the Museum to take a person, and to have that person instructed within their walls sufficiently to execute the work which you require to be done ? — No ; it would be better to find a person who was perfectly competent to the work before he began. ] 894. Would there have been much difficulty in finding such a person ? — I think there would have been at that time. 1895. Did you take any steps, or were any steps taken, to find out such a per- son ? — No ; Mr. Millard came recommended immediately on the formation of a classed index being agreed upon ; I was not desired to seek any person. 1896. And your apprehension was, that he came recommended by Lord Colches- ter, in consequence of a representation to Lord Colchester by a person so compe- tent to judge as Mr. Home? — Yes. 1897. Will you be so good as to state what you consider to be the requisite qualifications to make a good classed index of all the manuscripts in the Museum? — 'That is a question of very great extent, because it embraces Oriental as well as European languages ; I should say that ihe catalogues ought to be all previously made in full fitness for that person to index ; and the person ought to be competent occasionally to compare the catalogues before him with the manuscripts themselves. 1898. Is it necessary that he should be possessed with a knowledge of languages ? — A sufficient knowledge of languages to prevent his making blunders. 1899. Can you state generally what are the languages which he ought to have possessed a knowledge of to carry on the classed index to the manuscripts in the British Museum at that time r — A slight acquaintance with French, Latin, Italian and Greek, and when he came to the Oriental languages he would have to rely very much on what was placed before him ; you cannot expect a person employed on such an index to know all languages. 1900. Would it be necessary for him to read the Oriental languages ? — I should think not. 1901. Are you aware whether Mr. Millard possessed any general knowledge of languages? — 1 believe a general knowledge of Latin and" French; but I do not know how far his knowledge of languages extended further. 1902. Would it be necessary for him to read the Oriental character ? — I should think not. 1903. Would it be necessary for him to be able to read the contractions which have been used in different ages in different languages ? — There are so many books that he might have before him to refer to, that he would obtain that information almost as he wanted it. 1904. Are any other qualifications than a knowledge of languages, necessary for a person who is to make a classed index of manuscripts ? — He should have a good taste and judgment, to be able to place the selected entries under their proper heads. 1905. Must not he have considerable hterary acquirements and knowledge of history ? — Not more than he can obtain at the moment from the books in our library. If he is placed within reach of books, he can supply himself with all the information he wants. 1906. In case he had considerable general knowledge he would require further information ? — Yes, and an immense variety of information he would acquire which he could not know before. 1907. You have stated that Mr. Millard might have acquired sufficient infor- mation of the description you mention in the course of one year, if he had chosen Now at the end of one year had Mr. Millard made such progress that you felt yourself justified in recommending his continuance ?— I had no occasion to ascer- tain that progress, because he was going on with the index of these catalogues which were well made ; and in course I had no occasion to make such inquiry. ' I had afforded him my advice, and I considered that sufficient. It rested with him to qualify himself. 1908. At any subsequent period, had you an opportunity of judging of the proficiency he had acquired ?— He had not finished the second volume of Uie cata- logue I have spoken of, I think, when I left the manuscript department, and then my duty was simply to ascertain that his attendance was regular, and' I left the superintendence of the index to my successor in the manuscript department. 1909. So SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 143 1909. So that you had no opportunity of ascertaining? — I had no opportunity, Sir Henry Ellis. because there was lio necessity for his showing to me what his acquirements had been in the interval 1 speak of. 26 June 1835, 1910. I think you stated in your former evidence, that you were satisfied with Mr. Millard's execution of his duty, while he was under your immediate super- intendence? — I had no occasion, that I remember, to find fault with him. He performed his duty in a room adjoining that in which I usually sat, a passage-room, and I always, or usually, found him at his work whenever I passed through. I saw no occasion whatever to complain at that time. 1911. Were you satisfied with the manner in which he executed his work? — I over-looked two or three portions, and I made sundry alterations in them, and recommended a change of heads two or three times, 1 saw nothing that led me to express dissatisfaction. igi2. When you state that you felt no dissatisfaction with his mode of executing his work, do you refer to the time after you were appointed principal librarian ? — No, I do not. 1913. At all times? — Only to the end of 1827. 1914. Mr. Millard continued his services in the Museum after you were ap- pointed principal librarian ? — Mr. Millard continued his services in the Museum for a very considerable time after I was principal librarian. 1915. Had you opportunities, after you became principal librarian, to examine the work of Mr. Millard ? — I never examined his work after that time ; I left it in the hands of Mr. Forshall ; he was under Mr. Forshall, in the manuscript depart- ment, and I left the examination of his duty entirely to his superior officer. igi6. I think you say that you were rather surprised at the discontinuance of the index ? — I did not say that I was surprised at the discontinuance of the index, but the announcement of the discontinuance of Mr. Millard's services took me by surprise : it was communicated to me by Mr. Forshall that his services were dis- continued, and that was the first I had heard of it. I felt, at the moment, the consequence to himself of the discontinuance of the services of a man who was receiving 300/. a year. 1917. Do you mean that that surprise was occasioned by its being a perfectly novel subject brought to your attention, or a surprise arising from your opinion of the satisfactory mode in which Mr. Millard was discharging his duty, rendering him at that time a fit and proper person to continue the work upon which he was engaged ? — No, my surprise was not at the discontinuance of his services, but from its being a new subject coming across me at the moment. 1918. Supposing that there had been any question mooted with which you had been made acquainted previously, as to the propriety or impropriety of continuing Mr. Millard's services, should you then have felt a surprise that his services were discontinued ? — I should not. 1919. Had you the power yourself of mooting any such question during the time that IVIr. Millard was employed ? — I should never have mooted such a ques- tion, unless it had been on a representation to me from Mr. Forshall that his services had grown totally inefiicient, and then it would have been my duty to have brought such a charge forward to the trustees. 1920. Then during the time that you were in the situation which Mr. Forshall is in now, you did not think it necessary to moot that question .? — I did not. The fact was, that within the year after I was appointed principal librarian Mr. Millard came to me ; he was uneasy, as he did not like his situation under Mr. Forshall. He came to me, and requested that he might remain under my direction : 1 said, " No, Mr. Millard, you are attached to the manuscript department ; Mr. Forshall is the gentleman who directs your labours, and you must remain with him." His health totally failed, and his attendance, I may say, gradually, after that time, became extremely irregular ; he stayed away continually on account of illness, and he stayed away so very frequently that I became quite uneasy ; I am sure Mr. Forshall must have been. I was ready latterly to have brought it before the trustees on my own account ; I felt my responsibility was compromised ; but he so often came with the marks of leeches on his temples, and he said there was a tendency of blood to his head, and, therefore, I forbore to state that to the trustees which it really would have been my bounden duty to do, if a pei'son in his situation had stayed away without convincing me by such marks that his absence was caused by illness. 1921. I think you have described a sort of surprise which you, felt in its being T 4 communicated 144 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry EUis. communicated to you that Mr. Millard's services were to be discontinued ; you, — I believe, were the person who communicated to Mr. Millard the discontinuance 26 June 1835. of his services?— I did, accidentally. On the Monday or Tuesday following, I spoke to him, supposing that he knew his services were to be discontinued, and I found he did not, and it threw him into a state of agitation for nearly three weeks, that I really conceived he would go out of his mind ; and I endeavoured to sooth him as much as I could. He came to me, told me he was in that wretched state of mind he did not know what he should do ; he should be thrown upon the world ; could the trustees be implored to retain him ? My answer was, " Mr. Mil- lard, after the trustees have made a decision at a general meeting, I do not think it is likely they ,will reverse their own decision, because they must have made it on what they considered good grounds ; all you can do is to state, that in these times it is extremely difficult to procure a situation of any kind, and that if they will have the goodness to give you a furlough for another year you will feel grateful. " Whether I drew up a memorial for him, or gave him the materials for it, I do not know, but it was at my recommendation ; and I have since repented that a memo- rial was presented. He sent in his memorial ; the trustees agreed to keep him for another year, and I am sorry to say that his neglect during that year was so infi- nitely greater than it had been the year before, that I was perfectly unhappy in my: situation in having recommended the trustees to grant the indulgence. 1922. Are you now speaking of the first or the second of the years that were granted to him ? — I am now speaking of the second year of the indulgence which was granted to him, which I, in the warmth of pity, recommended to him to apply for. 1923. I understand the ground of your regretting having made that recommen- dation are the want of attention, or the negligence, which was manifested by him. during that year of indulgence ? — Yes, the reckless negligence. 1924. Did you at the time you originally communicated, accidentally as you stated, to Mr. Millard, the discontinuance of his services, express any surprise at the circumstance of his discontinuance ? — I do not know ; I might possibly have ex- pressed my surprise at the suddenness of its coming upon him ; but I could not be at all astonished at its coming; and I have no doubt that seeing the strange agita- tion of his mind, for he walked about like an insane person — he could attend to nothing; he could speak of nothing but the ruin that was coming upon him;, I dare say I said several or many soothing things ; what I may have said I have not the slightest recollection of, for I felt for him at the moment as if he had been a brother. This I am certain of, and Mr. Home will bear testimony to it, I went to Mr. Home several times during the two years that I have spoken of, and entreated him to speak to Mr. Millard to be more attentive to his duties ; to come at his hours ; and when he did come to attend to the work ; and Mr. Home conti- nually went to him and remonstrated with him, till at last he found it was utterly useless to give advice, for he would not take it. Mr. Home, I am certain, will corroborate that, in this chair. 1925. Did you make any representation to tne trustees of what had occurred between you and Mr. Millard ?— Not the least, at that time. I think when the memorial was delivered in, I was spoken to by the trustees, and I was obhged to acknowledge his constant idleness ; it was my duty so to do ; I should not have spoken truth if I had not done it. 1926. During that year, when you say Mr. Millard was so frequently absent, did you at any time remonstrate with him as to his absence r — frequently ; I fre- quently named it to him. During the greater part of his last year speakint^ was hopeless. 1927. Did he give you any reasonable grounds for such strange conduct ? — Illness ! He would write me a note : I am only sorry I destroyed those notes. I had, at one time four successive notes, dated on alternate Mondays, in these terms : " Dear Sir, The weather is moist; I have a tendency of blood to 'the head ; I hope I shall be with you to-morrow," I have gone into the Library, and inquired, " Is Mr. Millard not here to-day," and I have produced such note 'as it came. I think Mr. Forsliall will corroborate my testimony; Mr. Holmes certainly will. I used to say, Mr. Millard will not come'till next Monday; and so it always proved. The following Monday but one he wrote me another note, and came that day week, and so on ; I had four notes in succession. When he left the Museum I put them into the fire; but I believe there are gentlemen in this room who can speak SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 145 speak to having seen at least some of the notes, and hearing me express my sur- sir Henry Ellis. prise at that time. __ 1928. Have you ever remonstrated with Mr. Millard personally? — Frequently. 26 June 1835. When I have found him absent, and had received no notice of absence, I have left my card on his desk, by way of convincing him that I had noticed his absence ; and perhaps in an hour or two afterwards he would come and leave a card at my house in return. 1 929. Now putting that and all the other circumstances together, were you at all surprised, or did you feel that any hard measure was dealt out to Mr. Millard, when the trustees ultimately discontinued and dispensed with his services ? — I could not be surprised ; it was merely the suddenness of his removal which made me feel that the man was thrown upon the world ; but as to his having given the trustees a justification for that discontinuance, there could not be a moment's question in the mind of any sensible man. 1930. Would the trustees have discharged their duty fairly and honestly to the public, if they had permitted an extension of these services of Mr. Millard, after the warning that had been given to him, the indulgence that had been shown to him, and the knowledge that they had acquired of his incompetency, either from want of health, or from some other reason, to discharge the duties of the station in which he was placed ? — I am sorry to say I think not. 1931. You have stated that Mr. Millard was first recommended to your notice when keeper of the manuscripts, by Mr. Home? — Yes. 1932. Mr. Home is a clergyman ? — Yes. 1933. A man, I believe, of distinguished learning and of unimpeachable character? — A man of great learning and unimpeachable character. 1934. I believe Mr. Millard was employed in making a general index of the Reports of the House of Commons from 1715 to 1801 ? — I understood so. 1935. I will read a passage with a view to put the matter beyond a doubt. It is stated in the volume of the General Index to the Reports of the House of Com- mons, that " in the important subject of the PubHc Records, the knowledge of the Rev. Mr. Home, late of the Chapter House, Westminster, has been called in aid; and the careful industry of Mr. Millard, of the Surrey Institution, which has left few things connected with the useful arts and manufactures unattended to." That index, I believe, was constructed chiefly under the direction of Lord Colchester ? — Yes. 1936. Do you know anything of that work ? — I do not ; I have heard it spoken of by Mr. Millard, and I think he showed it to me. 1937. You do not know that it is a work of considerable extent, and indicating considerable labour and research ? — Yes, no doubt. 1938. Now have you ever had a person in the first instance recommended to you as an assistant in the manuscript department, who came so fully qualified for the general office of making an index of manuscripts, or a classed catalogue, as from this previous work, and the recommendation from personal knowledge of Mr. Home, it may be presumed Mr. Millard was ? — It was a misfortune to my depart- ment that I had very little assistance during a great part of the time that I was in it ; until Mr. Forshall joined me in that department I had no efficient assistance whatever. 1939. That is not an answer to the question I put? — I only say I had no expe- rienced assistant before Mr. Eorshall. 1940. You have had assistants, 1 suppose, recommended to you before in your department? — 'No ; the means of the Museum did not allow of any assistants. 1941. Had you no assistance as keeper of the manuscripts? — I had the Rev. Mr. Maurice, who was nominally my assistant, but he was placed at the head of the reading-room. 1942. You had no assistants? — No, except a very old attendant, and after that a young man; I got another man subsequent to that, but they were in the situation of servants ; they were not in the situation of literary assistants. 1943. Speaking generally from the testimonials which you may require for assistants in the Museum, will you state to the Committee your comparative esti- mate of the testimonials which accompanied Mr. Millard's recommendation, and those which accompanied the recommendations of others ? — I never saw any testi- monials ; it was a matter settled between Mr. Home and Lord Colchester ; and I have the note from Lord Colchester now, telling me, " Mr. Millard, I should 479. u ' llunk, 146 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis, think, would be a valuable assistant, and I should wish him to be enlisted in our service." s6 June 1835. 1944. Could you have more proper persons to recommend an individual, con- sidering that one had an intimate personal knowledge of the individual, than Lord Colchester and Mr' Home ? — I was perfectly satisfied with the recommendation when it came. 1945. Could you have two more competent individuals to furnish a recommen- dation, than the nobleman alluded to and Mr. Home ? — No ; but the person re- commended did not do the fullest honour to their recommendation. 1946. I understand you to say by that answer, that though the recommendation was of the highest kind, Mr. Millard, who was the individual recommended, did not do credit to it ? — As it turned out, in the latter part of the work, when he got beyond the catalogues which have been named. 1947. Up to the time that you continued keeper of the manuscripts, and con- fining your answer to that time, am I to understand that Mr. Millard did credit to the recommendation of Lord Colchester and Mr. Home ? — Certainly, Mr. Millard performed the duty which I put him upon ; it was an easy duty probably compared with the latter portion of his work. 1948. But it was the duty he was selected to discharge? — Yes, and I felt no reason to be dissatisfied with him up to the time I left the manuscript depart- ment. 1949. Then up to that time he did no discredit to the recommendation of Lord Colchester and Mr. Home, whom you admit to be most competent to recommend to such an office ? — Certainly not ; I believe the whole tenor of my evidence goes to that. 1950. Now you have stated, that it is necessary for the formation of a good frame of a catalogue or index of manuscripts, that the persons employed should have general knowledge as well as a knowledge of languages ? — It is a knowledge most requisite for making a catalogue of manuscripts ; the index maker vhas the catalogue already ihade to work from, and has a much easier task than a catalogue maker ; Mr. Millard never was put on the formation of a catalogue. 1951. I am merely asking a general question ; you have stated that a knowledge of general literature and languages, and you have specified those languages, are requisite for a person who frames a catalogue or who makes an index ? — Not for the person who merely makes an index. 1952. But if it be not required by a person who makes an index, if he possess these qualifications he would be still more qualified for the duty ? — He would then deserve to be promoted to be compiler of a catalogue. 1953. Now will you state what means you took to ascertain, whether or not Mr. Millard did possess general literary knowledge, as well as of languages ? — I took no means to ascertain that ; I gradually found that he had education both in Latin and in French, but I had no cause for inquiring minutely into his qualifi- cations, because the work he was upon did not make it necessary. 1954. Having made no inquiries upon that head, but having had some ex- perience of Mr. Millard, as the result of that experience, will you state to the Committee what was his general acquaintance with hterature and languages ? I am not aware of what his depth was in any language ; I have no information to give a direct answer to the question. 1955. Do you know whether he is acquainted with Italian?--! do not know; he journeyed to Naples after I became principal librarian, but whether he acquired Italian before or after, or even is now acquainted with Italian, I do not know. 19.56. With reference to Spanish.?—! have not the least idea; I never heard him mention the name of the language while I knew him. 1957. With reference to German ?— ! do not know ; it never came to my know- ledge. 1958. With reference to Greek ?— I have not the least knowledge whether he is acquainted with Greek or not. 1959. With reference to Latin?— I have seen him transcribe Latin and French, and I know he was educated at Merchant Taylors' School, and therefore I know he is acquainted with Latin, and probably Greek, but ! never saw him write Greek, nor do I know whether he was in that school in the upper forms. 1960. You admit a knowledge of French and Latin? — Yes, and probably Greek ; but I do not know. 1961, As SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 147 ig6i. As to general literature, have you anything upon which you can inform SW Henry Ellis. the Committee what Mr. Millard's general knowledge of literature was ? — No, I do not know what his general knowledge of literature was while he was at the Museum, 26 June 1835. but I dare say he possesses a good portion of it. 1962. Then suppose a gentleman to possess a good portion of general literature, and a knowledge of French, Spanish, Italian, German, Latin and Greek, but all which qualifications should happen to remain latent and undiscovered by the prin- cipal librarian, in his department, he would of course be presumed, under those circumstances, to be a person unacquainted with those languages, and confined to the drudgery of the department ? — His labour in our house was limited to a parti- cular object, and I had but little opportunity of knowing anything beyond. 1963. You say that you gradually found out that he had a knowledge of Latin and French ; in the first instance you knew that Latin and French were necessary for the office he held ? — To make a catalogue of manuscripts. 1964. You gradually found out that he knew French and Latin ; had he known Greek and Italian, should you not have found that out ? — I think not ; because I do not believe the Hargrave catalogue contains a single manuscript either in the one or the other language, and I do not think the Lansdowne catalogue contains more than two or three Greek manuscripts, and those, if it does contain them, at the latter part of the catalogue. 1965. Now his first duty was to index printed catalogues? — Yes, his whole duty would have been to index printed catalogues. 1966. In the meantime you furnished him with the means of obtaining some knowledge of manuscripts and manuscript writing ? — Yes, I was desirous to do so. 1967. That was an act of kindness on your part towards an individual who came well recommended, and obtained a portion of your interest? — It was intended as such. 1968. And was accepted as such, as far as you know ? — Oh yes, undoubtedly. 1969. With regard to the state of the manuscript department, are the assistants who are now going on supposed to be perfectly acquainted with all the contractions incident in manuscript writing, or do they by their experience and diligence in the Museum acquire greater expertness in reading the manuscripts ? — I should think there can be no question that they gain greater expertness every day ; but I believe them to be very efficient persons, and I have complimented Mr. Forshall more than once on his having been so fortunate as to meet with persons to give him so very able and efficient assistance as he has at this moment. 1970. Mr. Forshall was appointed keeper of the manuscripts to succeed you ? — He was the assistant officer in my department, and succeeded me. 1971. Who recommended Mr. Forshall to the trustees? — I do not recollect; I had no knowledge of that. 1972. Did you know, by any general reputation, whether or not Mr. Forshall, on becoming the head of the manuscript department, was himself perfectly com- petent to read all the contractions and abbreviations of manuscript writing? — I believe Mr. Forshall is as competent as any person who can be found for the care of the manuscripts. 1973- Did any reputation of that sort precede his appointment as keeper of the manuscripts?— He was my assistant officer, and I had full knowledge of his fitness. 1 974. He was your assistant ? — Yes. 1975. Who recommended him to you? — He was the assistant keeper of the manuscripts, appointed by the trustees. 1 976. Whilst you were keeper ? — Yes. 1977. Who recommended him to you; or through whom did his recommen- dation to the trustees come ? — His appointment came, and then I became intimately acquainted with him. I was but little known to Mr. Forshall till he was appointed. 1978. Then was an assistant appointed in your department without any con- currence on your part, or any communication with you as head of the department ? — Yes ; the trustees consider that they can look out for a fit person, and they appoint him. ^979- Quite independent of the head of the department? — Yes. 1980. Do yoii think that is an advisable course to pursue in the management of an institution like this ? — I never knew any disadvantage arise to us from that Ime of conduct on the part of the Principal Trustees. • 1981. You think it desirable that assistants should be appoirgied without the u 2 knowledge 148 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis, knowledge Or concurrence, or approbation of, or consultation with, the head of the — — department ? — I generally hear the names of the candidates who apply ; if I had nG June 1835. been consulted, I should have said, what I at that moment believed from recom- mendation, that Mr. Forshall would make a valuable officer. 1982. But whilst you were keeper of the manuscripts, I understood you dis- tinctly to say, that you had no fault to find with Mr. Millard ? — -I never complaingd either to him or of him, at that time. 1983. On Mr. Forshall's appointment, I understand Mr. Millard, either then or soon afterwards, communicated to you some indisposition on his part to serve under his new principal ? — Yes, he did. 1984. Did he give any reason? — I do not recollect any reason, but that he did not like to have a new superintendent. 1985. Did he state why ? — 1 do not recollect whether he did or not. 1986. If the head of a department were very anxious to have any one appointed under him as an assistant, would the trustees pay attention to such wish ?^^I have no doubt the trustees would look to the reasons for that wish, and if there were particular grounds of fitness ascribed, I have no doubt they would entertain the consideration of it. 1987. And the same as to an objection on the part of the head of a depart- ment ? — I never knew an objection to be urged. 1988. I wish to know how long a time elapsed between your leaving the keeper- ship of the manuscripts and the first complaint made to the trustees by Mr. Forshall against Mr. Millard ? — Mr. Millard made the application which I have alluded to probably two or three months after, but it was not a thing which fixed itself in my mind ; it was more of a mere conversation than anything else. It might be two or three months, but it is utterly impossible for me to say with certainty : it might be five months. . 1989. You think it was either three dr five months before complaints were first made against Mr. Millard ? — I do not recollect Mr. Forshall making any com- plaints against Mr. Millard to the trustees ; I was astonished he did not make complaints. I could not help observing the irregularity of Mr. Millard's attend- ance ; that was all that fell within niy line of duty. 1990. Do I understand you to say, that subsequent to Mr. Forshall becoming keeper of the manuscripts, you gradually perceived inattention on the part of Mr. Millard to his duties ? — Yes. 1991. For how long a period after that? — I cannot say; it might be six or seven months, or more, but I certainly observed it ; his health failed, and there appeared to be a lassitude, accompanied and followed by irregularity of attendance. 1992. Are you aware then of the opinions entertained by Mr. Forshall, in re- ference to Mr. Millard, during these five or six or seven months ? — I do not know that Mr. Forshall ever complained to me at that time. 1993. Will you state when Mr. Forshall first made you acquainted with his dissatisfaction with the conduct of Mr. Millard ? — I would if I remembered, but I have not the least recollection. 1994. Was it two months or six months after Mr. Forshall succeeded you ? — It must have been a considerable time afterwards, but I have not the slightest re- collection of exact time. ^995- Were you acquainted with the general loss of reputation sustained by Mr. Millard in the Museum, five or six months after Mr. Forshall succeeded you as keeper of the manuscripts r — His irregularity after that time became gradually the general talk of all the people in the Museum. 1996. And you were acquainted with it as principal librarian? — Yes, I was certainly ; but I was only acquainted with his non-attendance to his duty ; Mr. For- shall had the superintendence of his labours in the department, and I never gave myself trouble about them. He was under the direction of Mr. Forshall, and if Mr. Forshall found anything wrong in his conduct, I concluded it would be' named to me, from his superior officer. 1997. But still you were acquainted with the general loss of reputation sustained by Mr. Millard, as it was the general talk of the Museum ? — I do not think it became the general talk of the Museum for more than a year after Mr. Forshall became keeper of the manuscripts, or even later. 1998. Did it or did it not then become the talk of the Museum, within a year? — Probably Mr. Home, or some other gentleman of the Museum, will ^ive you ® better SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 149 better information than I can ; I mean the gentlemen who were daily and hourly Sir Henry Ellu. near him. ^999' I will also obtain the information from those gentlemen ; but I also wish 26 June 1835. to obtain the information from you as principal librarian ? — I would readily give a notion of the time if I could, but I cannot ; I have no land-mark of memory to fix it by. 2000. What was the date of the memorial you drew up to the trustees ? — I cannot. tell whether I drew it up, or whether I only furnished him with the out- line ; it was to the effect, that at the then present moment appointments of every description were difficult to be obtained, and it requested the trustees to give him the indulgence of another year, which they gave him, and I believe his letter of thanks for that indulgence, couched in handsome terms, is to be seen in their minute or guard book. • 2001. Can you state the date of that memorial ? — It was in May 1831, two or three months after the discontinuance of his services had been determined upon by the trustees. 2002. Now what is the date of Mr. Forshall's appointment? — December 1827. 2003. Then what occurred between 1827 and 1831 with reference to Mr. Mil- lard? — I think his negligence became very apparent in 1829, influenced by the state of his health ; I laid it all to the condition of his health and the alleged tendency of blood to his head. In 1830 he was allowed to make a voyage to Naples; an absence of six months was granted to aim. In February 1831 the discontinuance of his services was announced to him, and in the month of May following, upon his consulting me for advice, I told him the sort of memorial I mentioned would, I thought, be the only resort that could be serviceable to him ; it would gain him time and 300 /. 2004. Now will you state your estimate of Mr. Millard's services as far as you are acquainted with them, as principal librarian of the Museum, between 1827 and 1831? — I have no knowledge; the estimate of his actual services must come to you from Mr. Forshall ; I mean the detail of the performance of his duties in the Museum, and the value and importance of those duties : I never looked at a single paper prepared by him in the manuscript department after 1827. 2005. I beg to call your attention to chap. 2, concerning the duties of officers, printed amongst the acts and votes of the British Museum. The second section says, " he (that is the principal librarian) shall take care that all the subordinate officers and servants perform their respective duties, and obey the orders which are already or shall hereafter be made by the trustees, and also pay attention that no irregularity be committed within the precincts of the Museum." With reference to, that direction, are you prepared to state, that you never felt it incumbent upon you to make any representation to the trustees, as to the conduct of Mr. Millard ? — I have already mentioned, that from the plea . of illness, rendered obvious by the occasional appearance of Mr. Millard's temples, to which leeches had been applied, and I think on one or two occasions I had a letter from a medical man, explaining to me the same cause of absence, I forbore making known to the trustees that Mr. Millard was irregular, because I conceived his illness justified his irregularity ; still there were such occurrences as the receipt of those letters I spoke of, in which he stated that he should be away for a day or two, and then regularly stayed away a week : these gave me very great uneasiness ; but it was latterly, and the time when these letters were delivered to me was very soon after- wards followed by the discontinuance of his services. 2006. Then all the terms you have applied to Mr. Millard's conduct, such as reckless negligence, idleness, and inefficiency, are attributable to the state of his health ? — No, there was an evident mixture : I will explain what I mean by idle- ness : when he came to the Museum after an absence, he would go round to one person and another, with his hands in his pockets ; he would walk about sauntering, without trying to perform his duty. Mr. Forshall alluded to that in the last day's evidence, when he said his negligence was evident to every person in the IMuseum'; and I believe if you will call before you any person connected with the printed book or manuscript departments, you will have stronger evidence than I have given you of his idleness. 2007. You stated a short time back that you laid the whole to the state of his health, the tendency of blood to the head, which was his complaint; do you mean to qualify that answer or not? — I will qualify that answer; I consider that the principal librarian, or the head of any establishment, must suffer delinquency to 479. U3 ' go 150 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henrif Ellis, go to an extent which leaves no room for doubt before he would venture to stigi ^ matize the character of any person connected with the institution over which he iV) June 1835. presides. I was willing too, and anxious to hope and believe, that Mr. Millard would correct his conduct, and render it unnecessary for me either to make, or approve of any statement which might be made to the trustees. 2008. Wilfyou explain the term " delinquency," as applied to Mr. Millard ? — I may have used too strong a term ; I conceive that failure in duty, negligence, or unwillingness to perform his duty, amounts to something like dehnqufency. 2009. Do you mean incapacity from ill health, or unwillingness? — Unwilling- ness of course ; wilful negligence ; coming to the Museum after a long absence, and sauntering about ; not for two or three hours only, but for days and days, and weeks and weeks ; performing no duty whatever. 2010. That being the case, how was it you expressed any surprise on his dis- missal ? — I was not at all surprised at the discontinuance of his services ; but I was surprised at the sudden manner in which the announcement came upon me ; I felt for the man's being thrown upon the world. 2011. Why did you draw up the memorial when you considered Mr. Millard in some degree a delinquent? — He stated himself to be a ruined man, the means of support thrown from him ; the agitation of his feelings was so great I considered he was not in his right mind for near a month after he had received the announce- ment ; I thought the discontinuance of his services would become a lesson to him, and if I could get him another year it would maintain him for the time; and a change to good conduct might still have preserved him in some office in the Museum. 2012. Still you memorialized the trustees, or assisted or superintended the memorial which was presented to the trustees, in favor of this gentleman, who in some degree you considered a delinquent? — Yes; and it is the only act of my Museum life thiat I repent of. 2013. Why do you repent of that? — Because he did not justify the hope I en- tertained of him ; he even came to me six weeks before the time expired, in 1833, at the very close of the second year, and asked me whether he could not be suflfered to go away entirely? I said, " Mr. Millard, as long as your services are paid for by the trustees, it must be your duty to attend here. If you mean to say you will give up the portion of money becoming due to you for those six weeks, there can be no reason whatever for your remaining here ?" He said, " O, no, that was not what he meant." I said, " Unquestionably, if there is any appointment you are seeking, and you want time to go after it, if it is for four or five hours in the day, or for three or four days, or any time, the trustees can make no objection to your going after the appointment, but I cannot, in my situation as principal librarian, consent to your absenting yourself for no reason whatever ; you must come to the Museum till vour time is fulfilled." 2014. Do you know in what year the observation was made in Parliament as to the state of the manuscripts and catalogues ? — 1 do not ; but it is possible you may, by the mention of some circumstance, call it to my recollection. 2015. You cannot say whether such observations were made in Parhament before Mr. Millard was finally discharged or not ? — I have no recollection of the date. 2016. Was it in 1832? — I think it is very possible it was in 1832; the dis- continuance of Mr. Millard's services was declared in 1831, and in 1831 the memorial was presented which I unfortunately recommended to be drawn up. 2017. Can you state the contents of that memorial, and the grounds upon which you recommended his re-appointment? — I have already stated, that whether I drew it up, or only gave him the recommendation, or gave him the materials, I do not remember. 2018. That memorial was calculated to mislead the trustees, of course? I do not think it was, because it mentioned nothing of Mr. Millard's manner of per- forming his services, nor did I ever recommend him to say that his services had been efficient ; I put it solely on the ground of giving him time to seek some other appointment. 20ig. No other ground was stated in that memorial? — No, as far as I re- member ; Mr. Millard may have a copy of that memorial, and if it is put into my hand I will acknowledge everything, and give you my reasons for it. 2020. As, far as I understand your evidence, it amounts to this : that during the early part of Mr. Millard's absence you attributed it to ill health, but latterly you SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 151 you perceived it was also to be attributed to negligence during the second year? Sit Henry Ellis. —Yes ; it was only during the last year that his negligence became visible beyond — - — - mistake. 26 June 1835, 2021. And it was to that time you applied the expression " reckless negligence ?" — Yes, to that time almost exclusively. 2022. In what year was that ? — In 1833. 2023. It then became insupportable ? — Yes. 2024. 1° what year was the memorial presented ? — In 1831. 2025. And he got worse after that ? — Yes, it increased unaccountably. 2026. Did his health at the same time suffer ? — Yes. 2027. Are you disposed to attribute the alleged increase of his misconduct to the weaker state of his health ? — -I think his conduct must have been influenced by the weak state of his health, which excited my compassion, mixed with my uneasiness. 2028. He went to Naples, you think, somewhere between 1829 and 1830, by permission of the trustees ? — It was in 1 830. I beg to be understood as speaking entirely from personal recollection ; I have consulted no papers, and therefore you will allow me to correct the dates hereafter. — (By Mr. Forshall.) — The minute granting to Mr. Millard leave of absence is dated March 13th, 1 830. 2029. (To Sir Henry Ellis.') — Now in 1831 you have stated you presented this memorial .? — He presented it ; I did not. 2030. He presented, a memorial which you were cognizant of? — Yes. 2031. And that memorial suppressed all mention whatever of any misconduct, or idleness, or inefficiency on the part of Mr. Millard ? — The Trustees had made their decision as to the discontinuance of Mr. Millard's services, and I was only imploring that he should have a year's furlough, and not be thrown upon the world. 2032. But you, as principal librarian, were a party to a memorial which wholly suppressed all these serious imputations against Mr. Millard as an assistant in the Museum ? — ^There was no occasion for any imputation to enter into the subject matter of the memorial, because the trustees had discontinued his services. I believe Mr. Forshall put him on some other work at the very close ; I do not think he continued upon the Index ; the Index was discontinued. I never recom- mended a further trial of Mr. Millard. 2033. What was the object of the memorial ? — The object of the memorial was to give him a livelihood, that he might not go to the workhouse. 2034. What were the grounds stated for recommending his restoration in that memorial ?— There was no recommendation for his restitution ; it was simply that he should not be thrown upon the world. His own words were, that he was " a lost man ;" and I said, " all I can recommend you to do is to implore the trustees to continue you here for another year," for the sole purpose of giving him a little linger maintenance. He spoke of himself as of a man who was becoming destitute. 2035. Was that the sole ground upon which the claim was made upon the trustees ? — As far as I know ; but I do not recollect the terms of the memorial. 2036. Did you accompany that recommendation to the trustees with any explanation of it verbally ? — No, I left it to Mr. Millard. I gave my recommen- dation to him; he sent in his memorial, and the trustees gave him their answer : tjiey consented to its prayer. 2037. You did not state it as an act of charity to an inefficient and idle person? — It was an act of kindness on my part to him ; it was meant as such. 2038. And as principal librarian you put your duty aside, and indulged your feelings to Mr. Millard ? — I think in that instance I did ; and I have said I re- pented of it. I did not repent of having done a kind act; but I found, that after that act of kindness he was more inattentive to his duty than ever, and I felt that the trustees, if tbey knew what I had done, had a right to reproach me for what I did. 20.39. Then I understand you repent of your conduct in suppressing the truth in that memorial? — I suppressed nothing. The trustees had discontinued Mr. Millard's services : I merely planned his petition to them that they would keep hira on a little while, that he might not entirely lose a maintenance before he gained some other situation. 2040. But you wholly suppressed, in that memorial, all mention that Mr. Millard was an inefficient and incompetent servant of the Museum .?— -I never thought of 479. u 4 recommending 152 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis, recommending him to put tiiat in : the trustees would not have considered that as a title to another year's employment. 20 June 1835. 2041. You knew the grounds upon which the trustees Had made their decision, and therefore you did not present that memorial to complain of the harshness of the trustees, but to request them to give him a year's employ ? — Certainly ; the memorial was intended by Mr. Millard for no other purpose. 2042. I understand that was a memorial from Mr. Millard, and not a repre- sentation from you of the conduct of Mr. Millard? — No; at the time alluded to, in 1831, he was in a state of agitation bordering on insanity, and I felt compassion for him. He came and advised with me several times ; he said he considered me as his friend, and I believe I was his friend, at least I suggested that memorial from humane feelings only, seeing the condition in which he was. I told him the trustees could not be asked to reverse their decision, but I thought, if he stated to them that he had no chance of obtaining any other appointment, that there was great difficulty in these times of procuring any appointment, and that if, in conse- quence, thev would retain him another year to look out, it might possibly be granted : he followed my advice, and was kept in for another year. 2043. And all that was done nearly a twelvemonth after the trustees were acquainted with his original delinquency ? — I beg to say I am sorry I used the word 'delinquency'; I meant great negligence. ■> 2044. The original misconduct, which I choose to call delinquency, which was not alluded to in the memorial, I believe was known to the trustees before that time ? — Yes, I have no doubt of it. 2045. Nearly a twelvemonth ? — Perhaps three or four months. 2046. Did you, at the time you assisted Mr. Millard in preparing that memo- rial, consider that if the trustees acquiesced in the, prayer of his petition to them, that any serious inconvenience would arise to the Museum from their humane per- • mission to Mr. Millard to continue in the service of the Museum another twelve- month ? — No ; I thought it was letting him down as gendy as we could, by giving him an extended opportunity, as to time, of seeking an appointment elsewhere. 2047. He was continually in his office during that year? — He was continued under Mr. Forshall; but he was put on work, Tbelieve, which Mr. Forshall con- sidered more immediately requisite for the service of the Museum, and in which Mr. Millard's services could be made more usefully available than in the index. 2048. Your duty was undoubtedly to make any misconduct on the part of the officers known to the trustees? — Yes. 2049. Do you think there was any delinquency in your suppressing your report of Mr. Millard's conduct ? — In this case ill health and absence were so mixed up and interwoven together, that if I had made a complaint, and Mr. Millard had brought a certificate from a medical man of his illness, the trustees might have thought I was unnecessarily complaining of his negligence and misconduct. 2050. Is it or is it not your bounden duty faithfully to represent misconduct on the part of the officers of the Museum to the trustees ? — Yes; but I must exercise a sound discretion as to when I ought to make the complaint. 205 1 . Do you think you exercised a sound discretion in this case, when after so many years of what you consider delinquency in some degree, you suppressed all mention of that to the ti'ustees ? — Not many years. 2052. Many months ? — Yes ; but his illness was such and occasionally so visible ; the man's appearance was such. He would not have gone to Naples but for ill health. 2053. Then, assuming his illness was such as to account for his misconduct, why do you apply the term " delinquency ?"— It does not account for his miscon- duct entirely, because when he came back to the Museum, after an absence which I have described, the negligent manner in which he loitered about the manuscript- room, away from his work, made everybody who saw him uncomfortable. 2054. Then that was a part of his conduct which ought to have been repre sented to the trustees, because it was in no way connected with his ill health!*— The extreme neglect did not come on till after it was announced that his services would be discontinued ; and it thn would have seemed like persecuting a man if I had complained. 20.55. I am only speaking of the neglect which preceded his dismissal ; what portion of that neglect do you attribute to his ill health, and what to his neglect of duty ? — The difficulty of making such a sub-division satisfactorily is too great for me. 2056. Then ^^ELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. ^53 2056, Thenw.'^'y ^° y°" apply the term delinquency to his conduct, for that ^iv Henry Ellh. implies a clear sep. '^'"^t'O" •— Ihere were certainly at times a complete open mis- conduct. 26 June 1835. 2057: Then you dt» ' ™^^"® ^^^ sub-division ?— In this instance; but it was principally after the trusk °^^ ]^^^ determined to discontinue his services. 2058. I am speaking of ^'^ misconduct before his dismissal ; I am asking you, as you call him a delin'quen, ^' ^° ^^'^ .'"^ J^^^^ constituted delinquency, in your opinion, during the period pret '^'^'"g ^^^ dismissal ? — I am sure you must have observed in common life that tL "^""^ ^'"^ ™^"y ™en with whom pride and shyness are so completely intermixed, that > '°" cannot tell which, is pride and which is shy- ness; Mr. Millard's ill health and M» " Millard's idleness were so mixed up together that you could not separate them 2059. In 1831 you were cognizant t>,^Mr. Millard's memorial? — I was; but I did not appear in it. 2060. And that was subsequent to various^^^ts of a mixed character, part of which you explain by reference to Mr. Miilard\ ' health, and part you ascribe as coming, in some degree, within the range of the tt, '"'^ delinquency ? — Yes. 2061. Now will you state to the Committee whav^ ^r^ these acts of delinquency, and when did they begin ? — Upon my word I cann\ ^ tell ; Mr. Forshall can tell you what his neglect was in the performance of his^.'^^ty. It is my duty occa- sionally to go round to the different officers at the head v^f the departments, and ask them whether they are satisfied with the conduct of li^^ subordinate persons under each : at such limes I have had conversations with Mr. Eorshall, which con- vinced me that Mr. Millard was considered neglectful. 2062. When you say you were cognizant of the memorial, v^'ss that only in your private capacity as a friend ? — Certainly ; I knew that it was sent in to the trustees. £063. But as principal librarian you were perfectly aware of what you conceived to be Mr. Millard's misconduct? — Yes; but that never entered into the' subject matter of the memorial; it was merely to beg an extension of their human.'ty to him for another year. 2064. And it never came under your duty to represent his misconduct to ti're trustees under the bye-law of the Museum ? — I can only say, that if the trustees consider me guilty of a dereliction of duty they must punish me for it. 2065. Was any communication made to you previous to Mr. Millard's dismissal by the trustees ? — No ; I have mentioned that the discontinuauce came as a surprise upon me. 2066. Then, though you are principal librarian of the British Museum, the trustees never think it part of their duty to consult you as to the appointment or dismissal of officers ? — I dare say I have had at times questions asked me about appointments, but this arose out of conversation about the state of the department between Mr. Forshall and the trustees. 2067. I am now speaking generally as principal librarian of the British Museum; are you, before they take place, cognizant of appointments and dismissals? — Generally. 2068. Is it the rule? — I have never known a dismissal take place but that I was called in upon the occasion. 2069. Why was an exception made in this instance? — This was the discontinu- ance of a labour, not the dismissal of an individual. Sir Frederick Madden, called in ; and Examined. 2070. YOU are one of the officers of the British Museum? — I am Assistant Sir Keeper of the Manuscript Department in the British Museum. Fr ederick Madd a,. 2071. How long have you been in that situation ? — I was appointed in February 1828. 2072. During the time you have been in that situation, or any part of that time, do you recollect Mr. Millard holding any office in the Museum ^—Certainly; Mr, Millard was employed in making an index to the printed catalogues of manuscripts. 2073. Did you ever, conjointly with Mr. Forshall, examine a portion of the index upon which Mr. Millard was employed ?— I did. 2074. Is that the index that you have now referred to? — It is so. 2075. When was that ? — I do not recollect ; I think it must have been in 1830. 2076. What was the reason that with Mr. Forshall you examined 'that index ? — X The 154 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir The reason was to ascertain his competency, from the manner in wb^^^j^ ^^ executed Frederick Madden, the work; it was a portion of the index that Mr. Millard wr^^ making of the — printed catalogues of the Lansdowne and Harleian collections. / 26 June 1835. .^077. And also the Hargrave collection?— I do not reco> ^^^^ gg^j^g .^^^, ^j^j^^ relative to the Hargrave collection. 2078. Will vbu 'state what was the reason you made t ^^^^ examination with Mr. Forshall ?— The reason was from conversations held, between Mr. Forshall and myself, as to the oflBce which was then occupied by yi^_ Millard in preparing an index ; we wished to ascertain Mr. Millard's comp,^^^^^^^^ to execute it, and how he performed it. 2079- Was that before Mr. Millard had iv ji]ce that the index would be dis- continued ? — I believe it was. 2080. What was the opinion you formp j f^om the manner in which that por- tion of the index which you examined ^^s executed ?— The opinion was, that Mr. Millard was totally incompetent ir ^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^ ^^^-^^^ ^^ jjgj j^g^^ appointed. 2081. What circumstances led yc^^^ j-^ ^ome to that conclusion with reference to Mr. Millard's qualifications?— Thf circumstances of the mistakes made in preparing these titles, and the want of judf^,^ent shown in entering them. 2082. Will you state what you mean by preparing the titles ?— Writing them down on different slips of p^^per, which was the mode' in which they were prepared for the index. 2083. Judging from r^tie examination that you made of that portion of the index, are you able to give t\je Committee an opinion of whether or not Mr. Millard was competent to make ^ general classed index of the manuscripts of the Museum ?— 1 should say he V/as not competent. 2084. That js your opinion ? — That is my firm opinion. 2085. A c onsiderable length of time has elapsed since that examination took place, has f'nere not ? — Yes, certainly. 2086. During that time has this subject been recalled to your mind, and have you re^jected upon what you then saw, and upon the judgment which you then forro.ed ?— Yes. '2087. Are you now of the same opinion which you entertained at that time, 'chat Mr. Millard was incompetent to the task assigned to him ? — I am. 2088. If Mr. Millard was incompetent to make a general classed index of the manuscripts in the Museum, do you consider him to have been qualified to make a catalogue of the manuscripts? — Not at all; because that would require far greater knowledge. 2o8g. Then altogether the sum of your examination up to this point is, that you are satisfied in your own mind Mr. Millard was a person incompetent to fulfil the duties of the station in which he was placed ? — Yes. 2090. Did the inaccuracy in writing the titles arise from want of knowledge in the languages in which they occurred ? — It is impossible to state precisely, unless the tides were before me, in order to point. out in what way the errors were made; entering them in the first place under improper references ; mistaking the mode in which such a work should be conducted ; and also incompetency in not understand- ing what the tracts that were entered were about. 2091. You said the titles ? — I mean the titles in the index; each was written on a slip of paper. 2092. Is there a portion of the index here? — Yes. 2093. Also the printed catalogue ? — Yes. 2094. Will you refer to these shps of paper and point out some of these mis- takes, with reference to the printed catalogue, which induced you to come to the conclusion that Mr. Millard was incompetent? — These are not the same papers I examined with Mr. Forshall, but I have no objection to point out such as I con- ceive are faulty. 2095. Did you come here to-day prepared to be examined on the subject ?— I came here, supposing I should have some questions put to me on this subject. 2096. Then are you not come prepared to substantiate your statement? Yes ; but to do so in fairness to myself, I ought to be allowed leisure, and opportunities of referring to the manuscripts, and to books. 2097. Will you do so now ?— Certainly, if the Committee wishes it, as far as I am able. In the printed catalogue. No. 148, is a book called " Le Livre de rinformacion des Princes," which is the same, or similar to one which was printed, I believe, (a translation of it) by Copland ; at all events it is a book, the character of SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 155 of which is very well known. Whoever made the catalogue adds this, " The Pro- Sir logue is a sort of sermon upon that text of Jeremiah 23, Regnabit Rex et Frederick Madden. Sapiens erit et faciet Judicium," &c. : Mr. Millard has entered that as " a Sermon on Jeremiah 23.— French," which is completely an error. In the first place it is ^^ "'""^ *^^^' the prologue to that book which is described as " a sort of a Sermon upon that text of Jeremiah,"' which merely means, that the preface to that tract, not the tract itself, was a sort of sermon, by its theological mode of commenting on some text of Jeremiah, and in this title it is called " Sermon on Jeremiah 23. — French." Now I say that shows a want of knowledge of the subject, and is a very false way of making an index. No. 44 is described in the catalogue as " Boethius de Con- solatione Philosophic," which was translated into English verse " per Johannem Capellanum," that is, John Walton, who was canon of Oseney, and was printed at the monastery of Tavistock. I find in Mr. Millard's title itis'entered as "Boethius de Consolatione Philosophie, English Metrical Version." Now anybody who knew anything of the subject would know, that it was a translation by John Walton, and therefore, it should have been entered under the head of John Walton. There are many other instances. No. 43, art. 5, is described in the catalogue as a " Balade of Trouthe," which is entered in the index under the word " Truth," where nobody would expect to find it. The same No. 43, art. 4, is described in the catalogue as a " Treatyse between Enformacione and Mysyke," or, as it is described afterwards. " An imperfect Ballad ;" in the index I see it is entered only under the head of " Musick." No. 44 is the w^ell known prose romance of Tristan, or Sir Tristrem, in French. It is described very foolishly in the catalogue as " Historia sive Romanza de Gestis Tristani et Sadochi, Regum Hiberniae, Gallice scripta," and it is entered in the index under the head of " Hibernia !" 20g8. You have stated that Mr. Millard made erroneous references ; that he did not understand what the tracts were about, and did not understand the mode of conducting the work? — I said it was my impression that Mr. Millard was not capable of conducting such a work. 2099. I understood you stated three reasons for it? — V^es, these three reasons. 2100. Under which head does this last instance come ? — Want of knowledge of the subject. 2101. You have referred to No. 48, in the Catalogue, as an instance in which Mr. Millard has shown a want of knowledge of the subject ? — Yes. 2102. The entry in the Catalogue, No. 48, is " an old French book in small folio, written on paper in different hands, wanting 63 leaves at the beginning, and con- taining, first, 'Le Livre de I'Informacion des Princes.' " The title, as written by Mr. Millard, is as follows : " Prince. Le Livre de I'Informacion des Princes. Flarleian 48, folio 64." Will you state to the Committee how you would correct that ? — That title, as far as it goes, is correct ; it is the prologue I alluded to. :^103. Then as to the entry of the Prologue : the Catalogue says, " the Prologue is a sort of sermon upon that text of Jeremiah 23, ' Regnabit Rex et Sapiens erit et faciet Judicium,' " &c. ; in the written title intended for the index, it is " Sermon on Jeremiah 23. — French." Will you state how you would correct that title ? — I should have omitted it altogether. There is no occasion to put it down as a dis- tinct sermon. It is not a distinct sermon upon Jeremiah 23, but merely a prefa- tory chapter of the work. 2104. You would omit it altogether? — Yes. 2105. But in making an index, do you not think it would be exceedingly useful to have a reference to this work, under the head of " Serm.on," since it states in the Catalogue that it is a sort of sermon ? — I conceive that Mr. Millard was to correct the errors in that printed catalogue, and not to follow what was before his eyes. 2106. Is the printed catalogue erroneous? — Unquestionably it often is. 2107. What is the correction you would suggest in the catalogue? — I do not mean in this particular instance the catalogue is erroneous ; but the title in the index is erroneous, and Mr, Millard might have discovered, if he had seen the tract itself, that this which is called " a sort of sermon," was part of the work, and should not be entered as a distinct sermon. 2108. But supposing his index to have been complete, and these two titles part of that index, no inconvenience could have arisen to any one who referred to that index, since under the head of "Prince," he would have found " Le Livre de I'Informacion des Princes ;" and under the head of " Sermon," he would have found that the Prologue of that work was "a sort of sermon upon Jerefniah 23-" — 479. X 2 I thmk 156 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir I think it was calculated to mislead, as being entered in the index as a distinct Frederick Madden, sermon ; in that way you might probably have made half-a-dozen other sermons ~ out of the same book. ■26 June 1835. 2109. But is it not useful that an index should be made as complete as possible ? — Yes; but if it were executed to this extent, you might make an index of all the names of places and persons mentioned in every volume. If any reference at all were to be made to this " Sermon," I should rather be inclined to enter it under the head of *' Jeremiah," as a comment on a text of that writer. 2110. Under what head in the class catalogue would you place that work? — I conceive in a classed catalogue it would come under the head of Moral Treatises. I have before alluded to a work of the same nature, which was a translation by Trevisa of a Treatise by Egidius of Rome, which was called " De Regimine Principum, or the Government of Princes ;" it was a moral treatise to instruct kings in the different modes of life which a sovereign should follow with' regard to his courtiers and subjects, his diet, habits and pursuits, virtues and so forth. 2111. The title being a Sermon on Jeremiah, that title would lead it to be strictly placed under the head of moral treatises, according to what you have stated ? — It is only a portion of the work. 2112. No ; but it is a very important portion of it? — 1 believe it to be a very un- important part; but unless we had the work before us, we cannot say what portion the Prologue occupies. 2113. Is it part of the duty of a person who makes an index to refer to the ori- ginal work ? — I understood it was the duty of Mr. Millard so to do, or otherwise I think it was a misappropriation of time and money to make an index of the Harleian catalogue, for an index had been made already by Mr. Home. 2114. Then you are understood to say that you would have indexed this manu- script under the head of "Prince" only? — I know not that; I should have endeavoured to have found out who the author was, and entered it under his »ame. 2115. But Mr. Millard has entered it under the head of " Prince," under the head of " Sermon," and under the head of" Arms ?" — No ; the last entry refers to a distinct treatise altogether, the treatise on Feats of Arms. There may be 30 tracts in one manuscript perfectly distinct. My remark applied to the first article in that manuscript. , 2116. The first article in this manuscript relates to " Le Livre de rinforraacion des Princes," which Mr. Millard has entered under the head of" Prince".? — Yes- and the Prologue under the head of " Sermon on Jeremiah 23," which I deny is a sermon. 2117. He has entered it under both: now what do you conceive would be the inconvenience in an index of having them entered under those two titles? — Tliere might be many gross errors from which ihere might arise no serious incon- renience. 2118. Do you conceive this to be an error? — Yes. 2119. It being precisely the title of the manuscript? — No; it is merely an explanatory note in the catalogue, stating that the Prologue was " a sort of sermon ;" but the person who made that catalogue did not mean to say it was a distinct sermon on Jeremiah 23. 2120. But what you call an error is only a superfluous labour ; for he has not only given the work, but a separate portion of the work ?— Yes, that being an improper mode of making an index, for he enters that as a sermon which is not a sermon, but only a portion of the work. 2121. Is not that rather a question of literary judgment between you and Mr. Millard than an error? — I think it is an error. 2122. Will you point out the error?— I will suppose, for instance, that in the time of the Puritans, the memoirs of some individual were published, and that in the preface the author, in order to show that the life had been worthy' of the man, had chosen to enlarge upon a text in the Bible, as is the case in the prefatory chapter to this work, would that be considered a sermon? 2123. If it is called so in the catalogue, do you think there is any harm in entering a title corresponding with the catalogue ? — I should conceive so. 2124. Do you not think it is rather a matter of opinion than an error? — I should consider it an error. 2x25. Do you think those two titles would imply distinct works, from the way ia which they are entered ? — Yes, I conceive so. 2126. If SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 157 2126. If a very laborious individual were to employ a superfluity of labour in Sir order to give more than necessary information, and that information should prove Frederieh Madden. ■ultimately not to be correct, would it not be as inconvenient as any error that could be found in a catalogue, by misleading those who were in search of the literary '^^ "^""^ '^^^" stores which they wanted to seek for ? — I conceive it would be a great inconve- jaience. y^ 2127. Although it might be meritorious in the individual to employ himself dili- gently, still if that diligence were misapplied, would not the consequences be inis- chi^ous and inconvenient to literary students? — Yes, I think so. 21 23. You have instanced No. 44 as another proof of inaccuracy or want of knawleog^ or want of judgment. I find the printed catalogue is to the following effect : ''^ethius de Consolatione Philosophise," and the entry of it by Mr. Mil- lard is, " Boejthius de Cons. Phil. (Metrical Version of)" &c. Isiow the catalogue states, that it iS\a version the same with the last above-mentioned, and on referring to the last above-mentioned, I find the following entry in the printed catalogue : " Boethius de Consolatione Philosophiae, translated into English verse ;" will you state the inaccuracy,X)r want of knowledge, or want of judgment, in that title? — The want of knowledgfevi should wish to see supplied ; that is, that I should have wished to have that English translation of Boethius entered under the name of the author, who is stated in the catalogue to be Johannes Capellanus, but there is no entry here of the author of that metrical version of Boethius. Supposing you were indexing the Saxon translation of Boethius by King Alfred, you would put it under the head of King Alfred as well as of Boethius, but here it is only entered under one. 2i2g. Is there no entry as to the authorship? — Certainly not, in this index. 2130. Ought it to have been in that slip? — Certainly it ought. 2131. That seems to you to be an omission ? — It seems to me to be a want of knowledge. 2132. But an omission arising from a want of sufiicient knowledge? — Yes. 2133. In the making of catalogues, do you not find that such omissions will occur even on the part of those who are the best qualified ?--No doubt they will occasionally, where the work is so obscure that the author is with difficulty ascertained. 2134. But do you mean to say the catalogues that existed, and those now exist- ing, in the British Museum, even in your department, are so correct and free from errors as to justify your giving an opinion of that omission, arising from want of knowledge of the identity of the author ? — It was not from a single omission of that sort that my opinion was formed, but from a great many instances of the same sort in the same catalogue. 2135. You have stated that the romance of Sir Tristrem is entered in the index under the title of " Hibernia ;" I find it is " Ireland" in one of these slips ? — I be- lieved the entries in the index to that romance to be all piinted under " Hibernia," hut if it be " Ireland," the mistake is the same. ~ 2136. At the same time there is a reference to the manuscript under the head of "Tristanus"? — Yes; but erroneous as to Hibernia, since he never was king of Ireland. 2137. And there is a reference to it under the head of " Sadoc"? — Yes; but also erroneous as to Hibernia, since he never was in Ireland in his life. At this rate there might be references under 50 other similar heads. 2138. Then the index would lead to a reference to the manuscript, under what- ever head or subject a person might be searching for it? — Tristan is the principal name under which such a romance should have been entered, and the second entry should have been under the head of Romance. 2139. It is to be found under the head of Tristan? — It is. 2140. Then no inconvenience would have arisen? — These instances being taken at hazard, you must be perfectly aware it would not be fair to make up your mind upon them as to the accuracy of what I have stated, because it might take a great many more titles to form an opinion; but I can adduce many other instances. 2141. By the inspection of a single packet of slips of pajjer you have been enabled to detect three mistakes, according to your opinion, in this index ? — Yes. 2142. Knowing, as the Committee must, how small a proportion one of those packets bear to the whole work, will you state whether you were prepared \vith these instances before you came down, or whether they were selected at hazard.'' They have been selected at hazard from a small portion of a packet; but certainly 479. X 3 I had 1.58 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir I had seen this packet of papers, for a few minutes only, this inorning, before Frederick Madden. \ came down. ~ ~ 2143. Were Lhey taken in their order, or were all the instances put together? J™^ 1835. _^j^g numbers all follow each other in order. 2144. Have you any other opinions to give to the Committee, as to the compe- tency of Mr. Millard ? — ^Mr. Millard not coming under my direction, that is, being subject only to the principal of the department, I can only speak as to what I saw and what 1 heard, or what was the subject of conversation between Mr. Forshall and myself. 2145. it having been stated to the Committee that Mr. Millard went to the Museum very highly recommended by individuals who were most competent to judge of his qualifications. Lord Colchester and the Rev. Mr. Home, y/iW you state, from your knowledge of Mr, Millard's discharge of duty in the Museum, whether or no he did credit to that recommendation ? — In the first place I must mix up probably some private opinion on the subject, together with what I observed as an officer of the Museum. My opinion is, that Mr. Horne's recommendation of Mr. Millard was biassed by his being his brother-in-law. 2146. Was Lord Colchester biassed? — Of Lord Colchester's recommendation I can of course know nothing. In the first place Mr. Millard was appointed before I was appointed myself. 2147. You are not asked to state your opinioriof Lord Colchester or Mr. Home, but whether or not, coming with a high reputation for industry, ability and cha- racter, he maintained that character, and if not, upon what ground you believe he did not ? — I believe he did not. 2148. Will you state upon what ground.? — On the ground of incompetency and neglect of duty. 2149. Will you give us the date, or some knowledge of the period, with refer- ence to which you speak of njg^lect of duty ? — Mr. Millard, when I was ap- pointed assistant keeper of the manuscript department used to have bis desk far removed from the manuscript room : that was in the beginning of 1828, and I was not in the habit of seeina/Mr. Millard at all, in any way. Some time after that, by the wish of Mr. Foi?<^all, Mr. Millard's desk was removed into the manuscript department, into a room which was next to that occupied by myself, but when that was, the exact period, I am unable to state. 2150. In wlW^did the neglect of duty consist ? — The neglect of duty was in not being present/and not attending to his duty. 2151. About what time was that? — I should conceive it to be in 1830, but I cannot;^ speak as to dates ; it was generally observed throughout the Museum. 2152. Was Mr. Forshall acquainted with it? — Mr. Forshall was acquainted with itj i'.iid used to complain of it to myself. /2153. Do you know whether the principal librarian of the Museum was ae- ''quainted with it ? — I believe he was. 2154. To what extent was the neglect of duty? — I am not prepared to sayj for I was not the censor of Mr. Millard's conduct, nor did I keep a watch on his comings and goings. 2155. The question does not wish to constitute you the censor of Mr. Millard's conduct, but that you will state what you know, as you have voluntarily placed yourself before the Committee to speak of the conduct of Mr. Millard } — Not voluntarily. 2156. Do you come against your consent? — No ; I do not volunteer, but I am willing to give evidence when called upon. 2157. Will you state what you know of the neglect of duty, and to what extent it was ? — My opinion of Mr. Millard was, that his frequent absences, partly from ill health and partly from neglect of duty, was such as to render him inefficient in the task he was employed upon. 2158. Are you competent to state to what extent those absences arose from ill health, and what to neglect of duty ? — No, I am not. 2 1 ^C). Then why do you make a distinction between ill health and neglect of duty ? — Because ill health was always the plea that Mr. Millard made use of. 2160. Do you think that plea was well founded?^ — It probably may sometimes- have been. 2161. Then you mean to say, that not being competent to state what was attri- butable to ill health, and what to neglect, you think his plea of ill health was insincere r — Sometimes I think it was. 2162, Are SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH INIUSEUM. ^59 2162. Are you prepared to give any instance of neglect of duty for which ill sir health was the alleged cause, and for which the cause was not sufficient ? — No. Frederick Madden. 2163. Then why do you impute so dishonourable a motive to the individual in ■ — question, as abstaining from his duty under a false reason ? — Partly from the fre- ^^ ''^""'^ '^35- quency of such occurrences, and partly from the general impression in the Museum of Mr. Millard's neglect of his duty. 2164. You are asked to state what you know from your own personal know- ledge, and not from the general impression ? — From my own personal knowledge I can know nothing. 2165. Do you come here to give the Committee information founded upon your own knowledge, or founded upon general report ? — So far from my own knowledge in passing through the room in v/hich the desk was placed, and also during the vacation, when Mr. Forshall was absent, I used to receive notes from Mr. Millard, as having then the direction of the manuscript department, always excusing his attendance at the Museum on some plea or other. 2166. On some plea or other these notes excused his attendance ? — Yes. 2167. Will you state any other plea than ill health? — I cannot recollect; I never passed an opinion upon it, and the notes were destroyed. 2168. Why do you state " some plea or other," when you are not able to state any other than ill health ? — A plea is very easily found when a man wishes to absent himself, and I had no power to call in question that plea. It might have been on business, or might have been some other engagement. 2169. But you have stated that you are now giving an opinion from your own personal Jaiowledge of the instances of neglect of duty ? — That is my impression ; when a person alleges ill health for a continual absence from duty, you must osten- sibly taibe that as the cause, but when that occurs very frequently, and the general impression is that the duty is not performed, your private opinion must be that ill health is not always the cause. 2170. Then should a man make an excuse on the score of ill health once or twice, and become dangerously ill, and continue to make the excuse, your opinion of his insincerity would increase with the ill state of his health ? — I do not know that. 2171. Is not that a fair conclusion from what you have stated ? — I think not. 2172. Will you furnish the Committee with an instance in which you had good reason to believe that Mr. Millard did not assign the true reason for his absence } — I cannot positively do so. 2173. Then why do you impute such dishonourable conduct to a literary gentle- man as that which you have now imputed to Mr. Millard, namely, the assigning ill health as a reason for not discharging his duty at the Museum, when you had reason, or you had not reason, to believe that it was not the true cause ? — Partly from the frequent absences of Mr. Millard, and the general impression that was in the Museum that Mr. Millard neglected his duty. 2174. Do you mean to say that frequent absences woold prove insincerity, or prove an increased ill state of health ? — They might prove both. 2175. Have you any ground to state to the Committee for thinking they proved insincerity ? — I have no positive proof ; I can have none. 2176. Then do you think you are justified in thus insinuating away a man's character? — I should be very sorry to insinuate away any man's character, but I think the evidence of gentlemen connected with the Museum would bear me out in saying that Mr. Millard neglected his duty. 2177. You say that you speak from personal knowledge ; I cannot get out the facts you found from personal knowledge ; will you state to the Committee one single fact to justify your suspicion of Mr. Millard's sincerity? — The fact would be the frequent absences ; that is the only thing in the nature of a fact. 2178. Then do you mean, that frequent absences on the score of ill health should be taken as a proof of insincerity ? — 1 think it may be so. 2179. May it not be taken as a proof of continued and increasing ill health ? — Yes, it may. 2180. Then why in this case do you prefer imputing a dishonourable motive when there is a cause that may account for it in an honourable way? — Because there was a general impression, which I had heard, that Mr. Millard neglected his duty. 2181. Did Mr. Millard's appearance seem to indicate that he was unwell? — He used to complain of his eyesight, but I never perceived any particular appearance 479. X 4 of i6o MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir of ill health when I saw him in the Museum, which was very rarely ; I seldom had Fredtrick Madden, opportunities of conversing with Mr. Millard. 2182. From his personal appearance -you should not imagine that he was other- a6 June 1835. ^j^^ ^^^^^ unwell?— From his general appearance I should not have considered he was so unwell as his [)iea would lead me to suppose. 2183. Do you think the general impression of his neglect arose from his general appearance, or from his frequent absence, as you say there was a general impres- sion that he was not so unwell as he stated ? — When I did see Mr. Millard, 1 did not perceive that there was that want of health to prevent his attendance. 2 1 84. And these persons who had this general impression, had they also frequent opportunities of knowing the state of his health } — I do not know. 2185. I wish to know upon what foundation that general impression rested, op did you believe it because it was general ; do you know upon what it was founded? — No more than what I have stated. 2186. You added that you had very few opportunities of conversing with Mr. Millard ? — I availed myself of very few opportunities. I passed through the room every day where Mr. Millard was, or ought to have been. 2187. But still you stated you had very few opportunities of communicating with Mr. Millard ? — Of conversing with him. 2188. Taking what yon have admitted, that he was in a state of ill health, and taking what you have admitted, that you had few opportunities of judging of the state of his health, do you conceive that you are justified in insinuating a dishonour- able motive to him, in excusing himself from attendance at the Museum, from general report, founded upon no personal knowledge or fact that you can state to the Committee ? — I could of course notice whether he was present in the manu- script room, or not; and therefore; his frequent absences, and what I heard from others, would naturally make me suppose, that it was not the plea of ill health alone that kept Mr. Millard away. 2189. Then you are speaking frovn hearsay evidence, and not your own personal knowledge ? — Yes ; I was not sufficiently authorized to direct Mr. Millard, or take cognizance of what he did. 2190. Sir Henry Ellis has told us that up to the time when Mr. Forshall was placed at the head of the manuscript department, Sir Henry Ellis, as keeper of the manuscripts, had no fault to find with Mr. Millard, and thai he made no complaint, against him ; had you any knowledge of Mr. Millard at that period, anterior to Mr. Forshall's appointment? — I cannot recollect; I may have spoken to Mr. Mil- lard, but as to any other acquaintance with him, or knowledge of him, I had none. 2191. When were you appointed in the manuscript department? — In February 1828. 2192. Mr. Millard was then an officer of the Museum? — He was never consi- dered an officer of the Museum. He merely assisted in making this index. 2193. He was employed by the trustees? — He was. 2] 94. Were you acquainted with him at that time? — I believe 1 knew Mr. Mil- lard, to speak to him. 2195. When did tijis general report, adverse to Mr. Millard, first reach your knowledge?— I think it must have been within a twelvemonth of Mr. Forshall's appointment as keeper of the manuscript department. 2196. What year was that? — 1828. 2197. Between 1828 and 1 829, then, these reports were general?—! cannot exactly say. 2198. You cannot speak then of Mr. Millard previous to the year 1828? — No. 2199. Did you happen to hear, amidst all the evil that was flying about, any good of him anterior to 1828 ? — No. 2200. You never heard then, when you arrived at the Museum in 1828, that he was a man notoriously negligent in the discharge of his duty ? — No. 2201. When Mr. Millard was at the Museum was he diligent in the discharge of his duties, when he was present? — It is my impression that he was not, but I cannot produce proof of such an opinion ; no one could produce proof unless he was constantly at his elbow. 2202. With a view to making a correct and useful index to the printed catalogue of manuscripts, about how many titles on an average do you think you can get through in a day?— I think you may easily make 25 titles in an hour, which, at six hours a fJnv_ SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 161 a day, would give 150. I think 25 titles an hour might be very easily accomplished, Sir from a mere printed catalogue. Frederick Madden, 2203. Now in cataloguing books, take for instance the catalogue of books in the 26 June 183''. printed library department of the Museum,' how many do you think a man could catalogne in a day, upon an average? — It would depend in some measure upon the nature of the titles, but I should think 50 or 60 would be a very fair day's work. 2204. I ^^'11 now read you a passage from Sir Henry Ellis's evidence, and ask your opinion of it, with reference to Mr. Millard : " I know in the printed library we usually reckoned that a man could catalogue 60 books in a day, and do them well ; and I hold in my hand a slip of paper from which it appears to me, that during the time he (Mr. Millard) was under my direction, the slips amounted on an average to 72 per day, which I considered a fair ecjuivalent to 60 titles in the printed catalogue." Do you conceive from that statement that Mr. Millard Was an industrious and diligent haaker of the catalogue, or otherwise? — I should think he was not very industrious at the rate of 72 per day. 2205. Then you think that Sir Henry Ellis was erroneous in stating that 60 was the average ? — I think that Sir Henry Ellis may have been mistaken in stating that 72 indexed titles was equivalent to 60 books. 2206. But without reference to the accuracy of the figures, and considering that what was done was in the proportion of 72 to 60, do you think that indicates in- dustry or idleness ? — I do not think it indicates industry. 2207. That being one-sixth more than the labour of other persons? — No, it is so ctifFerent, an index and a catalogue ; a mere letter from one person to another upon three subjects, would furnish five titles at once for an index. 2208. I am not speaking of figures abstractedly, but simply in the proportion, , and as 72 represents the work of Mr. Millard, and 60 the work of other people, do you understand from that statement of Sir Henry Ellis that he who worked in the proportion which 72 bears to 60, would be an idle or an industrious man r — I do not think 72 titles of the one sort is equivalent to 60 of the other. , 220g. Whether that be so or not, if he exceeded other men's labour, did it in- dicate industry or idleness ? — I do not think it indicates industry, considering the nature of the work he was employed upon. 2210. You probably decline giving me your opinion as to the diligence of Mr. Millard, founded on any facts which are stated by Sir Henry Ellis ? — ^I think the question comes in such a shape, that they will not bear a comparison ; the 72 titles in the one case require so much less labour than the 60 printed books would in the other ; that they do not stand as equivalents, and you cannot fairly place them in comparison as to a man being idle or industrious. 2211. You do not consider it a fair criterion of whether a man is idle or in- dustrious ? — No. Mr. Mawer Cowtan produces the following Papers : ACCOUNT of the objects of Natural History, bought at Mr. Bullock's sale, by Mv.Ma'werCixiian. Dr. Leach. ^ Accounts of the sums expended in the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities, arid on Mr. Taylor Combe's catalogue of Coins, from 1809 to 1834. Statement of Major Edwards's Fund. {The above Papers were given in, and read. — See Appendix, Nos. 1 8, 19.] 479- V l62 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Lunce, 29* die Junii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Rev. J, Forshall, Sir Henry Ellis and Sir F. Madden. The Rev. Josiah Forshall, called in ; and further Examined. 2212. HAVE you any communication to make to the Committee in reference to the examination of yourself and the other gentlemen at the last meeting of the Committee ? — I wish to put before the Committee copies of all the papers in my ^ possession which relate to the discontinuance of the general classed index to the 29 June 1835. collections of manuscripts upon which Mr, Millard was employed ; and I conceive that those papers will throw some light upon various parts of the evidence given before the Committee at their last sitting. The first of those papers is a minute of a general meeting of the trustees, the 13th of March 1830, giving Mr. Millard leave of absence for six months, on account of ill health, a fact referred to in the evidence taken before the Committee on Friday. The next is a minute of the trustees, dated February 12, 1831, regarding the report upon the general state of the manu- script department, which has been very frequently alluded to in the course of thq examination ; and giving the resolution of the trustees, come to in consequence of the discussion that arose upon that report, in which they state, that " they do iio^ deem it advisable to complete at present the classed index of the manuscripts upon, vvhich Mr. Millard is engaged ; but that, desirous to give Mr. Millard such notice of their intentions as may efiable him to provide himself with some other employ- ment, the trustees do not wish to consider his engagement with them at an end till the .17th of February 1832," being an exact twelvemonth after the date of my letter communicating this minute, that is, February 17, 1 83 1 . The next paper is a copy of my letter to Mr. Millard communicating this resoljjtion of the trusteesy which is little more than a mere repetition of the minute. The next is, a memorial to the trustees from Mr, Millard, dated May 11, 1831, in which he begs to be allowed to hold his appointment for another year beyond the time speciiied in the notice which he had previously received. That memorial was accompanied by a letter from Benjamin Hawes, Esq., stating that Mr. Millard had really declined to accept a situation which was equal to 230/. per annum, upon the ground of the appointment he was in hopes of obtaining from the British Museum, or had ob- tained : I do not at the moment see which. Then we have, on June 11, 1831, a minute of the trustees regarding this memorial, in which the secretary is desired to acquaint Mr. Millard, that, in consideration of the circumstances mentioned in his memorial, the trustees intended to continue his engagement in the service of the Museum for the space of time he specified ; but that at the termination of that period his employment would certainly cease. Next follows my letter communi- cating that minute, of the date of June 16, and the latter part of that letter I will read : " The trustees desire me to add, that they do not wish to prevent you, by this arrangement, from taking advantage of any other more desirable employment which may offer itself to you in the meantime. You will therefore consider your- self at liberty to leave the Museum whenever it may best suit your own conveni- ence." I have then a copy of a letter from Mr. Millard, dated '7th July 1831, thanking the trustees for their indulgence, and assuring them, that in the prose- cution of the very important task confided to his care, no exertion should be want- ing on his part. The next paper is a memorial from Mr, Millard, dated 4th. January 1 833 ; the memorial prays that he may be allowed to proceed with the important work confided to his care, great portions of which are completed and need only alphabetical arrangement and revision to render them fit for use. Then there is a minute of the trustees, of January 12, 1833, in which the Secretary is directed to refer Mr. Millard to the communication made to him by the order of the trustees, upon the presentation of his memorial in May 1831. And, lastly, there is a formal letter froin myself, communicating that minute. — \See Apoendix' No. 21.J ^^ 2213. You heard the evidence given by Sir Henry Ellis, and the evidence also given by Sir Frederick Madden, who attended at your request specially upon this point? — Yes. 1214. Are you disposed generally to coincide with them in the views and opi- iens they expressed with reference to Mr. Millard ?— That is so general a question that SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 163 that I 'find it difficult to answer it, not having in my perfect recollection all the evidence given by them. 2215. Do you wish to make any exceptions to the general opinions they ex- pressed as to Mr. Millard's conduct in the Musevim ? — No, I am not prepared to make any exceptions. 2216. According to the best of your recollection, do you confirm generally the opinions they expressed of Mr. Millard's conduct in the Museum ? — Yes, generally. 2217. (To Sir Henry Ellis.) — Reviewing, as far as your memory will serve you, the evidence you gave respecting the conduct of Mr. Millard at the British Mur seum, are you disposed to alter or qualify any of the evidence you gave ? — I have seen nothing that I wish to alter. 2218. (To Sir Frederick Madden.) — Have you any explanation to make of the evidence you gave when you were before the Committee last ? — No, I have nothing to state. 2219. (To Mr. Forshall.) — Will you read that letter, and state whether it is your handwriting ? — {A paper being shown to the IVitness.) — It is in my handwriting ; it is dated August the 7th, 1 832, and addressed to the Committee of the Wyndhani Club ; " My Lords and Gentlemen, Having been informed by Mr. John Millard that he is a candidate for the office of Secretary to your club, I feel it an act of duty towards him to state, that he has been employed in the Manuscript department of the British Museum for the last seven years, and that during the whole of this time he ha« conducted himself with strict propriety ; and that I believe him to be a very respectable and honourable individual." 2220. Was Mr. Millard long in the Museum after that letter was v/ritten ? — Six or eight months. 2221. Was there any alteration in his conduct during that period? — I think there was a progressive inattention to his duty, which I always attributed, and am still disposed to attribute, in a very great measure to the state of his health. 2222. But the alteration in his conduct was rather for the worse than the better, in reference to the interests of the Museum ? — Yes, certainly. 2223. Considering the evidence you have given to-day, in confirmation both of your own opinions when you were before examined, and also the evidence of Sir Frederick Madden and Sir Henry Ellis, will you have the goodness to reconcile that evidence with the opinion you expressed in that letter, that Mr. Millard con- ducted himself with strict propriety ? — I do not myself see any discrepancy between the two statements which I have made. 2224. Do not you attribute wilful negligence to Mr. Millard? — No. 2225. Then you do not confirm the evidence of Sir Henry Ellis, as to wilful negligence .?— No, I never, I believe, so expressed myself, that he had been wil- fully negligent ; because I have always in my own mind attributed the greater part of his inattention to the state of his health. 2226. You heard Sir Henry Ellis apply the term "delinquency" to Mr. Mil- lard's conduct during the time he served in the British Museum ; can you reconcile the use of that term with the letter which has just been read? — I think Sir Henry Ellis retracted that term, and said he was sorry for having used it, so I understood at least ; but I cannot confirm all Sir Henry Ellis's evidence, nor any other person's, in the way that it is now put to me. 2227. You are still then disposed to state, that whilst Mr. Millard was in the British Museum he conducted himself with strict propriety? — I am not dis- posed to do that, after hearing Sir Henry Ellis's evidence, and that of Sir Frederick Madden ; and next, we must except the six or eight months subsequent to the date of my letter to the Wyndham Club. 2228. Will you state what Sir Henry Ellis in his evidence stated, that you were unacquainted with before ? — At the time I wrote that letter, now referred to, I was not so completely in possession as I am at this moment of the facts relating to Mr, Millard's absence from his duty, and neglect of it. ' 2229. Will you mention one fact upon which your opinion is grounded? — The facts are those which Sir Henry Ellis and Sir Frederick Madden stated to the Com- mittee at their last siting ; I do not recollect them. 2230. You are now giving an opinion upon facts which you do not recollect? — Upon general impression. 2231. Will you state what that general impression is founded upon ?^ — My general recollection of the terms applied by Sir Henry Ellis. . 479, y 2 2232. Rev. J. Forshall, Sir Henry Ellis and Sir F. Madden. 29 June 1835. Then i64 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE '\e,'.J.Forshan. 2232. Then if you alter your opinion now, it is in consequence of what Sir Henry Ellis says?— Not entirely j 1 do not altogether alter it now for the first 29 June 1835. time^ but I have altered it to a certain extent for the last year or two, with regard to Mr. John Millard. .... 2233. Will you state the grounds upon which your opinion is altered?— In con- sequence of the general impression in the Museum, with regard to Mr. Millard's neglect, which has come to me much more strongly than it did while Mr. Millard was in the Museum. 2234. Are you able to say upon what that general impression was founded?— I am not, except upon conversation with others. 2235. You have not a single fact which you can state to the Committee as the ground of your impression ? — No. 2236. But up to the time when you wrote that letter, which includes the period during which Sir Henry Ellis passed all this censure upon Mr. Millard, you were disposed, as keeper of the manuscripts, being Mr. .Millard's superior in the Mu- seum, to state that he conducted himself with strict propriety ? — With strict pro- priety as to his moral conduct, and regarding all the questions that could fairly come before the committee of the Wyndham Club. 2237. Are the Committee to understand that any portion of this evidence is to be considered as referring to moral conduct ? — Certainly. I presume that neglect of duty is always a moral consideration ; and that is what we have been now talking about. 2238. Except inasmuch as moral conduct may be comprehended under the general term of neglect of duty, you mean to imply nothing else? — Certainly, nothiiig more. 2239. During the time that Sir Henry Ellis speaks of, that being a period com- prised within that during which you speak of Mr. Millard in that letter which has just been written, are you prepared in any way now, with reference to that period, to qualify the terms of that letter ? — No. I should be disposed to admit those terras in as far as my knowledge went at that time ; and, indeed, as far as my per- sonal knowledge goes of that period at present, 1 am prepared not only to admit, but to assert, that the terms of that letter were proper, considering the object of the letter. 2240. Will you state the object of the letter ? — To give my opinion of Mr. Millard's conduct and character, at his own request, he being at the time a candi- date for the place of secretary to the Wyndham Club. 2241. Of course to recommend a person in whom confidence could be placed, both in reference to the discharge of his duty and diligence ? — Yes, certainly. 2242. Such diligence as the secretary of a club in the neighbourhood of St. James's street is expected and required to supply? — Exactly so. I believe when Mr. Mil- lard made the application, I pointed out the great difference between the sedentary employment which he followed at the Museum, and the employment of a secretary to a club ; and I thought it probable that his health would improve very much if he had opportunities of taking the air more frequently than he had at the Museum, and that that inertness which I considered to arise from it would pass away. 2243. Your attention was drawn generally to the character of the evidence given, in which the terms " delinquency," " wilful neglect of duty," and "reckless idle- ness" occurred ; and you were asked whether you were generally disposed to confirm that evidence, to which you answered. Yes ; and you were then shown your own letter of a subsequent date, admitting and stating that Mr. Millard had conducted himself with strict propriety ; and you are now asked again, whether you are disposed to qualify the terms of that letter? — No ; though I should not at this moment give Mr. Millard the same recommendation. 2244. In consequence of what you have heard stated by Sir Henry Ellis? — Yes, and by other persons. 2245. Up to that time, as keeper of the manuscripts, and as his superior, you thought yourself justified in giving him that letter ? — Undoubtedly. 2246. When you say " strict propriety," you meant integrity and honour?— Certainly ; in that letter I did not speak in any way of his extent of information, or of his fitness for his situation in the Museum. 2247. You spoke of him as an honourable man, meaning thereby that he might be trusted with the expenditure of money, and things of that sort? — 'Exactly so. 2248. You heard Sir Frederick Madden attribute to him gross insincerity in assigning SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 165 assigning as the reason for his absence the state of his health, when the state of Rev. /. Forshalh his health was not such as to warrant it ; and you have been asked whether you ■ generally concurred in the opinion expressed by Sir Frederick Madden, and you 29 June 1835^ have stated that you did. Do you consider a person that so acted a person of ' honour and integrity? — I never intended to confirm those expressions, if they be part of Sir Frederick Madden's evidence. With regard to insincerity, it is a point upon which I should be very loath to judge any one, and it is a point upon which I should be still more loath to give an adverse opinion. * 2249. At all events, supposing. you did entertain the saxne opinion that Sir Fre- derick Madden has said that he entertains at this moment, did you or did you not entertain that opinion at the time you wrote that letter to the Wyndham Club ? — I did not. 2250. When you said that you agreed in the evidence of those two gentlemen, you meant that you agreed in the general tenor of it, and not the individual ex- pressions? — In the general tenor of it, as to Mr. Millard's inefficiency. 2251. At the time that you were a party to the determination which the trus- tees came to, to dismiss Mr. Millard, were you aware of any circumstance that rendered him unfit for that situation, except his general incompetence to fulfil the duties of the station in which he was placed ? — None whatever. The grounds which I stated to the trustees, for discontinuing the index to the manuscripts, were given in answer to minute inquiries made of me at the time, and they were these : the first and chief ground was, that the index did not appear to me to be the most urgent want of the department ; the next was, that Mr. Millard's health was such as to render him very inefficient. These were the principal grounds ; but I believe I did state at the same time to the trustees, that Mr. Millard was not, in ray opi- nion, competent to the task he had undertaken. 2252. On reference to the evidence of Sir Frederick Madden, it appears that he stated that he imputed insincerity to Mr. Millard ; do you or do you not agree in that opinion? — Whatever might be my. individual opinion upon such a subject, I should decline to express it. I should not impute insincerity to any man except under the strongest possible circumstances, in which there could be no doubt what- ever, not only upon my own mind, but upon the mind of all others who were in possession of the same facts. 2253. Then you do not confirm Sir Frederick Madden's evidence here? — I decline to give an opinion upon Mr. Millard's sincerity or insincerity. 2254. But you did not decline to give an opinion stating that he had acted with strict propriety, and that he was an honourable man ? — At the time to which you refer, I did not. Mr. John Millard, called in ; and Examined. 2255. WERE you ever employed in the British Museum ? — Yes. < 2256. In what capacity ? — To undertake a new general index to all the manu- scripts in the Museum. 2257. When were you appointed? — In 1824. I hold in my hand the minute of the appointment, which I received from Sir Henry, then Mr. Ellis : " British Museum, December 11th, 1824; At a general meeting, his grace the Archbishop .of Canterbury in the chair, Mr. Ellis's report and specimens for a new general index to the manuscripts were laid before the Board, and approved. Resolved, that Mr. .lohn Millard be employed, under Mr. Ellis's direction, in forming the pro- posed index to the manuscripts, at the rate of 300/. a year ; Mr. Millard's services to be required during the whole year, for five days in each week, except when his presence is dispensed with by the trustees. The above is s, true copy from the proceedings of the trustees; Henry Ellis, secretary." 2258. Was any complaint ever made to you of your frequent absence, on the score of illness or otherwise ? — It would be difficult for me to say that no com- plaint was made, but certainly not frequent complaints ; occasional hints might hkve been given on that subject, but certainly not frequently, and certainly there was nothing like remonstrance. 2259. When the complaints were made, did you, as far as your impression goes, give satisfactory explanation to the principal of the Museum, who is supposed to be the party making the complaint ?—^ Most certainly; which explanations he con- stantly approved. . 2260. With regard to absence, the Committee having been informed that you Y 3 Mr. J. Millard^ were 1^6 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. J. Millard, were frequently absent, so much so as to amount to a serious negleet of duty ; can you give the Committee any idea of the frequency of your absence ? — Yes ; I hold 39 June 1835. in my hand a memorandum, which I have drawn up from five years' pocket-books, in which I took care to put down every day I was absent, and, for a certain period, the time that I came in the morning, that there might be no complaint that I was too late in my attendance. I believe it is understood that I am not to apply my- self to the time when I was under the direction of Sir Henry Ellis, Sir Henry Ellis having expressed himself to be perfectly satisfied with my attention during the time I was under his direction, I commence with the period during which I was under the direction of Mr. Forshall, which was from the year 1828. The number of days' absence on account'of illness, in the year 1 828, I find are 14. In 1829, I had a very serious illness, which occasioned an absence of 94 days. During that illness I was attended by Sir Benjamin Brodie, the late Dr. Hooper and other eminent surgeons, and a certificate of my dangerous illness was sent to Sir Henry Ellis, signed by Sir Benjamin Brodie, Dr. Hooper, and a Mr. Harding, the surgeon of the Westminster Hospital. During that year also there were 1 1 days, of what I call casual illness; therefore I put down for 1829 eleven days exclusive of the great illness. In 1830, I applied to the trustees for six months' leave of absence. I was told by Sir Henry EHis, that if I had that absence, I must not expect to have any salary during my absence, but when I came back I might go on with my index, but certainly that no salary would be allowed during my absence. I was recommended by my surgeons and physicians to take a voyage to the Mediterra- nean ; I did so, and went to Naples, and my health was completely restored by that vpyage. I again mention, that I had no salary during the six months, because it has been reported that I was paid my salary during that time, which was not the fact. 1 did not take the whole of the six months' leave of absence ; I re- turned to England in five months, and I went to the Museum after this time had expired, and resumed my labours. Therefore, omitting the five months, by which absence I consider that the public service was in no way injured, except by the suspension of the index, I put down six days for absence in the year 1830, exclusive of the five months' leave. In the year 1831, I find, upon looking to my pocket-book, that there are 23 days of absence, on account of casual indisr position. In 1832, I find there are 33 days of absence on the same account. 1 have not put down the fragment of 1833, about six weeks, because I thought it would not perhaps be required. This is an account of absence from the Mu- seum, on account of illness, for five years. The amount is 87 days, which, I believe, divided by five, will give 17 days a year, and two over, for five years, during which time I was under the direction of Mr. Forshall. 2261. Were you expected to attend everyday at the Museum? — Every day except Saturday. 2262. Is that the case with the other officers of the Museum? — With most, I believe. 2263. When did you receive information of the intention of the trustees to abandon the work which they had engaged you to undertake ? — At the time that I received the information I took a minute of every thing that occurred relating to that special business, of which this is the original ; and on the 14th of February 1831, I find this note : " Attended at the Museum from 10 to 4. Mr. Ellis told me that the committee had abandoned the general index to the manuscripts. Mr. Forshall said the same thing, and said that the origin of the abandonment was as follows : That a conversation arose in the committee respecting the propriety of retaining a Mr. Holmes, who had been employed for a twelvemonth to catalogue some Italian manuscripts, and who had been kept for a month over the twelve^ months at Mr. F.'s request, and that Mr. F. was asked which would be of most ad- vantage to the Museum (reduction being then supposed to be under consideration), to pay money for cataloguing manuscripts not yet catalogued, and to correct old catalogues, or for continuing an index to those already catalogued, when he ob- served, as an ' honest man ' he gave his opinion for the former, and the com- mittee took his recommendation; and the committee passed a resolution for discontinuing Mr. Millard's index. Mr. F. then read some passages from a report he had presented to the committee on the state of the manuscript de- partment, which he had presented to the committee on the 12th; in one part of which it was stated, ' That a general index was required to all the .manu- scripts;' but no notice whatever was taken of Mr. Millard or his labours. Mr. JVI.'s monthly repoit to the committee, however, was stitched up with Mr. Forshall's report. Towards the close of the report it was recommended to ' employ a person SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 167 a person of similar attainments with Mr. Holmes, to assist in cataloguing MSS.' Mi. J. Millard. Mr. Eorshall told me that when the committee had determined to dispense with "~ my services he gave up this recommendation, that it might not be said he had acted 29 Jane 1835. unhandsomely towards me ! Mr. Holmes, it appears, was retained for another twelve- month to continue the catalogue of the Italian MSS. Mr. F. said that my report was seldom read to the committee. February 17. — Went to Mr. F., and requested to see his report on the state of the Manuscript department ; but he refused to let me have it in my hand, or to take any note from it. He read me again such pas- sages as I had heard before. Saw Mr. Ellis, who said he had seen Mr. Forshall's report before it was presented to the committee, and that he disapproved of it in toto. He again most earnestly disavowed that he knew anything of the inten- tion erf the committee to dismiss me ; said that he had had no sleep all night for thinking of it, and that Mrs. E. was greatly distressed. Mr. Ellis toldme it was evident Mr. Forshall wished to get rid of me ; and about two months before this he told me that Mr. F. had long had his eye upon the index." 2264. What measures did you take upon hearing of your proposed dismissal? — 1 said to Sir Henry Ellis, and also to Mr. Forshall, that I should present' a memo- rial to the trustees upon the subject. 2265. Did you present a memorial ? — I did. 2266. Have you a copy of it ? — I hold in my hand a copy of this memorial ; the date of it is the 11th of May 1831, " To the Trustees of the British Museum.'' That memorial is already before the Committee. 2267. Did you apply to any of the trustees individually upon the subject of your dismissal r — Upon the subject of that memorial I applied to Lord Brougham, then Lord Chancellor, a trustee ; and also to his Grace the Duke of Bedford, who was not a trustee, to interest himself in my favour, and he wrote to some of the trus- tees. Lord Brougham took great interest in the memorial, and wrote to His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, and the late Lord Dovor, upon the subject. 2268. What was the result of your memorial ? — ^I'he prayer of the memorial, for the extension of the time, was granted. 2269. When were, , you finally dismissed from the Museum ? — On the 17th of February 1 833 ; previously to which, I had presented another memorial, which was rejected. 2270. Have you ever had occasion to apply to any of the officers of the Museum for a certificate as to your conduct whilst you were in the Museum ? — I applied to Mr. Forshall for a certificate of my conduct and character, on the occasion of my being a candidate for the secretaryship of the Wyndham Club. 2271. Is that the letter which has been already put in this morning?— It is. 2272. When you quitted the Museum^ in what state did you leave the index^ generally speaking, as to the work intrusted to you ?— The following is an account of the state of the Index at that time : " The index to the Hargrave collection of manuscripts completed ; the index to the Lansdowne collection of manuscripts com- pleted ; the index to the Harleian collection of manuscripts in progress ; the index to the additional manuscripts in progress." 2273. The work upon which you were engaged was making an index to the catalogues, and also correcting any errors, or supplying any omissions that might be found ? — Yes. 2274. Were you led to expect that the work you were engaged upon would occupy you for a considerable period ? — I was told when I entered the service of the Museum, that it would occupy the greater part of my life. 2275. By whom? — By Sir Henry Ellis; that it was likely to occupy the greater part of my life, or a very long time. 2276. After you had received notice of the abandonment of the index, did you ever apply to the Archbishop of Canterbury, Sir Henry Ellis, Mr. Baber, or Mr. Forshall, for any other temporary employment?— Certainly. I applied to the Archbishop of Canterbury for any other temporary employment his Grace might have to give in the Museum ; he said he could do nothing in that respect; that it rested entirely with the trustees. I applied to Sir Henry Ellis to know whether it was likely that there would be any temporary appointment or any appointment made in the Museum, and he told me he thought not, except that there might be some attendants or servants appointed ; of course, my reply was, that I could not accept an appointment of that sort. I applied also to Mr. Baber, who made the same answer as Sir Henry Ellis, and to him I gave the same reply as I did to Sir Henry. I applie,d also, more than once, to Mr, Forshall. 479. Y 4 2277. Had i68 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. /. Millard. 2277. Had you reason to believe, from any communication made to you, either through the principal librarian or Mr. Baber, that you were dismissed upon the gg June 1835. ground of incompetence.? — Certainly not. 2278. Had you any reason which led you to suppose that wilful neglect of duty was the charge against you? — Certainly not ; neither this nor incompetence was ever breathed to me. 2279. With regard to the index to the catalogue, was that work superintended by Mr. Forshall, the keeper of the manuscripts ? — It was first superintended by Sir Henry Ellis, an-d then when Sir Henry Ellis was promoted to the office of principal librarian, by Mr. Forshall. . 2280. What was the nature of the superintendence exercised by Sir Henry Ellis over the index upon which you were engaged?— An examination of the titles with myself, which occurred frequently, and a comparison of them with the cata- logue. • ' 2281. That is to say, Sir Henry Ellis compared the manuscript titles with the printed catalogue? — Yes, I read the manuscript titles, and he looked at the printed catalogue; or vice versa, I forget which. 2282. In the course of that superintendence had you any complaint made to you as to the mode of conducting the work, or did Sir Henry Ellis from time to time point out any errors which you had committed ? — Certainly not. 2283. Applying the same question to the superintendence of Mr. Forshall, what answer would you give ? — I should say that he did not complain ; he might, and he ■ did, occasionally propose some alteration in the wording of the titles. When the index was placed under his direction, he put into my hands a number of instructions with respect to the indexing of the manuscripts, which in some measure ran counter to those which I had received from Sir Henry Ellis. One of those instructions was a very important one. While I was under the direction of Sir Henry Ellis, I was told, with reference to the Hargrave collection, not to compare the manuscripts with the catalogue, for he considered that the printed catalogue was so exceedingly well done that there was no necessity for comparing it witJi the manuscripts. In fact, I had nothing to do but to index the printed book. The same directions were given to me with respect to the Lansdowne catalogue. I was led to believe from Sir Henry Ellis's own mouth that that catalogue was perfection itself; that I had nothing to do but to give the spirit of the catalogue in alphabetical order. 2284. From whom did you receive that instruction? — From Sir Henry Ellis; but when I was placed under the direction of Mr. Forshall, the case was materially altered ; he desired me to attend to the list of instructions which I hold in my hand, the principal of which I will note ; the most important is this, he desired that every manuscript should be consulted, and compared with the catalogue/ without exception ; and many things were to be discovered, such as the names of authors, where they were not given in the catalogue or manuscript, with various other matters. In fact, when I commenced indexing the catalogues under Mr: Forshall's direction's, I was ordered to compare them with the manuscripts ; the- manuscript was sent for, and I did compare them with the manuscripts ; I could not have so compared them without I had been able to read the manuscripts ; 1 didj however, read the manuscripts, with the exception of such volumes as I could not read, as certainly all persons cannot decipher all manuscripts ; and such manu- scripts were, by his direction, referred to himself. When I found any difficulty' I went to Mr. Forshall. 2285. Were those instructions conveyed to you in writing ? — They were conveyed orally ; but I wrote them down immediately I left Mr. Forshall's room. These ai'e memoranda made by me at the time; there is one in his own handwriting.- I will read a few of them. The " index to be more full and minute ; as nearly as possible a transcript of the catalogue ; date of the month, as well as year, to all letters, state and political papers; A.D. to be omitted where the month is inserted. Under Commons, House of, and Lords, House of, all speeches and matters to be inserted, as well as under the name of the person. When a name of a person is unimportant, add the name of the place of which he is described. When a manuscript is a frao-ment, or imperfect, to say so in index. First lines of homilies, hymns, and old poems, to be given. Texts of all sermons where found ; that is, a reference to chapter and verse." A great deal of the theological extracts to be omitted, and a general reference to them made thus: " Theologia. Loci communes, Harl. 345, fo. 1. 20. 50, etc. etc. — Oseney Abbey, Oxfordshire. Transcripta cartarum ad istam domum spectantium. — Alvingham, Liber domesticus coenob. de citatus. — &c. &c. &c. © 2286. To SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 169 2286. To the best of your belief, did you follow those instructions both in letter Mr. J. Milkrd. and spirit? — Most certainly. 2287. Did you find any of those instructions such as you were incompetent to 29 June 1835. fulfil by reason of your general waiit of literary knowledge, 6t knowledge of manu- scripts? — Certainly not, except in the instances I have before stated. 2288. When you first entered the Museum, how far did your want of knowlfedge of the usual abbreviations in manuscripts extend? — When I first entered the Museum, I was unacquainted with manuscripts to a certain degree. After some time I became more conversant with them ; but during the tlrafe I was under Sir Henry Ellis's direction I had very little occasion to consult thein, for though Sir Henry Ellis was kind enough to place on my table at the Museum SpelttiM's Archaismus Graphicus, I thought it my dtity to spend my time rather in indexing the catalogue than in learning to read manuscripts. After I was placed under the direction of Mr. Forshall, I was obliged to read the manuscripts, because I had to compare every article with the manuscript itself, and 1 did learn to read manu- scripts. I can safely SBy that I was acquainted with a gresit number of the con- tractions which are commonly used in manuscripts, and deciphered manuscripts by such knowledge. When I found any diflSculty in a Saxon manuscript I went to Mr. Stevenson, who was an employ^ in the same departmient. If I wanted any- thing else I went to another gentleman who was conversant with- particular mss. If I required anything in Mr. Forshall's way, I went to him. I always had assistance from any of those gentlemen ; generally speaking, I could read what was put before me. 2289. From what you have stated. Sir Henry Ellis appears to have considered the printed catalogue as free from error ? — Most decidedly ; that is the 'Hargrave and the Lansdowne catalogues. ' 2290. You heard the evidence given by Sir Frederick Madden on your manu- script titles of the manuscripts numbered 43, 44 and 49 ; have you any observations to make upon the opinions he expressed respecting the errors and mistakes of those manuscript titles ? — Unless those titles were before me, I do not think it would be right to say anything about them ; but the impression upon my mind is, that there was no important error in them ; and the observation I have to make is this : that as I was told to index the catalogue without referring to the manuscripts, I could not be accused of any want of accuracy in not referring to the manuscripts. I had no orders to do it. 2291. It has been stated by Sir Henry Ellis, that as far as his knowledge went, you had but a slight acquaintance with ancient and modem languages ; will you state to the Committee what is, speaking generally, your acquaintance with ancient and modern languages ? — I was educated at Merchant Tailors' School, and received a classical education ; consequently, I may say, that when I entered the service of the Museum I was acquainted with Greek and Latin. I was also conversant with the French, Italian and Spanish languages, to which I have since added the Portuguese. 2292. Are you the author of any known works ? — I am the author of a book published at the age of 22, called the " Elements of Useful Knowledge," with lists of books on every subject of science, literature and the arts ; I am also the author of the first 16 volumes of " Time's Telescope," the superintendence of which by me ceased with the volume for the year 1829, and of various other popular works, 2293. Did you compile an Index to 15 volumes of Reports of the House of Commons, and an Index to 25 years' Papers of the House of Commons, from 1801 to 1826 ?— I did. 2294. Have you had any errors in those pointed out to you? — Not any in, the Index of the 15 volumes folio ; and with respect to the 2^ volumes of the Sessional Papers, from i8oi to 1826, I understand that it has been examined by the clerks of the House of Commons, and that but one error has been found in it. 2295. Did the late Speaker, upon any occasion, express his approbation of that worki — .Certainly. 2.296. Was it a work of great labour? — Of great labour. 2297. What period of time did it take you to complete the Index of the 15 volumes of the House of Commons ? — That I can scarcely say ; it was not done continuously, but at leisure hours ; so that I can form no calculation of the time it took. 2298. Were there any other persons employed at the same time upon the Index to the Sessional Papers ? — No. 479. z 2299. Under 170 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. /. Millard. 2299. Under whom was it done ? — Under the direction of Mr. Luke Hansard, the Printer to the House of Commons. 21) June 1835. 2300. Was it not also under the direction of Mr. Rickman ? — I dare say it was, but I received my instructions from Mr. Hansard. 2301. Was not the Index to the 15^ volumes of Reports made under the direction of the late Lord Colchester? — I believe it was. 2302. From whom did you receive your instructions with reference to it ?-~From Mr. Hansard. 2303. Was any reason ever assigned to you for your dismissal from the British Museum ? — Econiomy was assigned as the reason : it was said that it was necessary - to discontinue the index on account of economy ; the reason was understood to be a reduction of the expenses of the Manuscript department. 2304. In what state are the catalogues which are now placed in the reading-room of the Museum ? — There are, I believe, about 12 or 13 volumes of manuscript Catalogues of Manuscripts, without any index to them. 2305. Then if you wish to ascertain whether any partictilar manuscript exists, or whether there are any manuscripts on any particular subject, you must read through the whole of the un-indexed volumes to ascertain the fact ? — Certainly. 2306. As a literary man, do you know whether other literary men have found great inconvenience from that ? — I know that some of my friends have found such inconvenience. 2307. The catalogues referred to, are manuscript catalogues, placed in the reading-rooms ; are there any printed catalogues in the reading-rooms without indexes? — Not that I recollect; the catalogue of the Arundel MSS. has no index. 2308. Are you aware whether there are any manuscripts now in the Museum which have never been opened and examined ? — I cannot say positively whether there be or not ; I heard some evidence given in this room on the Cotton manuscripts. 2309. You know nothing more than that ? — No. 2310. Is there anybody now employed to make an index to the manuscript catalogues in the reading-rooms ? — That I do not know. 231 1. Was there anybody so employed when you were in the Museum ? — Not to my knowledge. 2312. You have stated the days of absence in different years as amounting in the whole five years to 87, do the days occur consecutively in any one of the years, or are they distributed over different weeks of your attendance ?— Distributed. 2313. No two days of absence being therefore consecutive ? — That does not follow ; in some instances two or three days may be consecutive ; certainly some of the days were consecutive. 2314. Besides those days when you were absent, were there no other days on which you came late, and staid not nearly the whole time, and received hints or remonstrances in consequence of that ? — Certainly not niany ; it might occur occasionally, but nothing worth naming. 2315. You took down, day by day, your attendance or absence, as the case might be, and you have now before you the pocket-books, being the original documents in which such entries were made ? — Certainly. 2316. You stated that when you received an intimation that the index was to be abandoned, you made a representation of your case to Lord Brougham ; that subsequently Lord Brougham made some communication to the Trustees, and that consequently your services were continued, and the index was pursued ? I do not know of my own knowledge that Lord Brougham made any communication to the trustees,, except that he told me he would write to H. R. H. the Duke of Sussex and to Lord Dovor ; they were trustees at the time. 2317. Was the index continued during the two years that you were so con- tinued on probation ? — Certainly. 2318. In the original communication made to you of your intended dismissal, were you made acquainted with the intention of the trustees to continue the index during that one year of probation that was first announced to you, or was it inti- mated to you that the index would be altogether suspended at the time of the communication made to you? — I do not think that anything was said to me about the continuance of the index ; it was intimated to me that my services would be required,- and as I was not employed upon any other subject, the index went on as a matter SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 171 a matter of cojirse ; my employment continued with the continuation of my Mr J. Millard. services. ' • 2319. Supposing that the original communication to you had been that your 29 June 1835. services were to be dispensed with at a given tiraci in consequence of your incom- petence or wilful neglect, should you not have considered it a harsher mode of communicating to you your dismissal than by acquainting you that the trustees, at a certain period, meant to abandon that work upon which your services had been employed? — I do not know how to give an answer to that question, because I know that I was not incompetent, and that I had not been guilty of wilful neglect. 2320. Do you consider now that it was an unfair or improper mode of commu- nicating to you the intention of the trustees to dismiss you, to tell you that the work upon which you had been employed would be abandoned? — It think it was an improper and an unfair mode not to consult me, previously to the application upon the subject before the trustees, as to the discontinuance of the work ; I think it would have been but an act of courtesy, on the part of the keeper of the manu- scripts, to have mentioned to me his intention of proposing my dismissal to the trustees. 2321. Do you complain of the terms in which the letter, communicating to you the discontinuance of the index, was written? — No, I do not see that I have any reason to complain of the terms used ; I complain of the fact of my dismissal, not of the terms in which the intimation of it was given. 2322. So far as any communication exists in writing between you and the trus- tees, and between you and Mr. Forshall, have you any complaint to make of any want of courtesy ?^-No, I think not. 2323. But you do complain of the work being discontinued, without your know- ing that there was such an intention previously ? — Certainly. 2324. But the fact of the discontinuance of that work was communicated to you for one year prior to the time for carrying the resolution into effect? — Yes. 2325. And two years prior to its being eventually^carried into effect ?^-Yes, after l,had memorialized, the trustees. 2326. So that you had two years' notice of the intention of the trustees to abandon that work ? — Yes. i- ; 2327. You have stated that no remonstrance was made in consequence of your frequent absence? — No remonstrance. I think Sir Henry Ellis used sometimes to speak to my 'brother-in-law, Mr. Home, with respect to my occasional absence and illness, and Mr. Home would sometimes communicate to me what had been said, and my observation to Mr. Home was, "Why does not Sir Henry complain to me himself? I will then answer him, and give him satisfactory information." But I think that neither Sir Henry Ellis nor Mr. Forshall ever made remonstrances to me as to my absence on account of illness. 2328. You stated that you gave reasons or apologies for your absence, which were always approved by your principal ; upon what occasion was it thai you made to your principals apologies for your being absent ? — The reason that I gave for being absent was generally contained in a letter sent to Sir Henry Ellis or to Mr. Forshall, accounting for my absence at the time, and that reason was approved%when I came to the Museum, because no objection was made to that letter ; and, conse- quently, I inferred that the letter was satisfactory. 2329. Then you had no occasion to communicate any other reason for jjpur ab- sence than what you found necessary to communicate in writing to Sir Henry Ellis or to Mr. Forshall ? — Certainly not. 2330. Did not Sir Henry Ellis speak to you yourself personally, much more frequently than through Mr. Home ? — Certainly not. «>; 2331. Did you frequently apply to Sir Henry Ellis or to Mr. Forshall by notes, representing the state of your health, and soliciting indulgence for your temporary absence in consequence of such illness? — I never applied exactly in that way;*, whenever I happened to be ill I sent a note to tell Sir Henry Ellis or Mr. Forshall the cause of my absence, but never solicited any indulgence except upon any temporai'y absence of that nature. 2332. Did such applications, to the best of your recollection, take place in any consecutive weeks, or in alternate weeks? — In consecutive weeks, in my great illness in 1829, but not otherwise, to the best of my recollection. * 2333. During the last two years did you feel yourself bound to attend as regu- larly and constantly as you did previously?— Certainly ; but if I wanted to go out I asked leave, and went out for two or three hours, or half a day. 41I9- z 2 ' 2334. It 172 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. J Millard. 2334. It appears that the grounds of the recommendation which the Trustees received from Lord Colchester, in respect to your appointment, and that the grounds i9 June 1835. stated by yourself in your present examination, of your fitness for the office to which you were appointed at the Museum, were the experience which you had derived from making an index to the Parliamentary papers, in the 15 volumes folio, and the Index which you had made to the Sessional Papers from 1801 to 1826 ; were not those indexes made with respect to printed books, and to printed books alone? — Certainly. 2335- Were you ever employed in the formation of an index to any manuscripts previously to your employment in the British Museum ?—Certaiuly not. 2336. At the time of such appointment were you competent to read the early manuscripts ? — Certainly not. 2337. Were you competent at the time of the discontinuance of the index ? — I read a great part of a manuscript of the time Edward the Fourth and Richard the Third, and certainly was competent to read manuscripts of a variety of periods of English history ; I do not mean to say that I could read the Saxon, or very early manuscripts. 2338. But as to the greater part of the manuscripts of English history, from the time of Edward the Second to the time of Henry the Eighth, for example, you felt yourself eiqually competent to read them and to analyze them ? — Certainly, from Edward the Fourth. ' 2339. Your hours of attendance were from 10 to 4, and you stated that you thought you should not have done your duty to the Museum if you had employed your time in studying the book of abbreviations. Had you not time during your, leisure hours to make yourself master of those abbreviations ? — 'The manuscripts were in the British Museum ; I did not live in the British Museum, and I could not take the manuscript home with me. 2340. Sir Henry Ellis has stated that there was a book of his own, Spelman's Archaismus Graphicus, which he lent you for two months ? — I have no recollection of that. I have seen Spelman's Archaismus Graphicus, and used it at the Museum ; but I have no recollection of taking away a manuscript of Sir Henry Ellis's. 2341. Have you no recollection of Sir Henry Ellis having lent you a copy of Spelman's Archaismus Graphicus, upon which was written " to be returned in two months ?" —No, I have no recollection of it. Sir Henry Ellis, again called in ; and Examined. ^\r Henry Ellis. 2342. ARE any officers of the Museum allowed to take home manuscripts? — Any book in the Museum is considered as in the Museum, provided it is kept within the walls, and any officer living there is allowed- to take home a printed book or manuscript. 2343. Supposing a fire happens in the Museum, what might be the consequence supposing any officer had in his house a valuable manuscript ?-^The case is not one, I believe, of frequent occurrence. I should suppose that no officer would have more than one at any time, and he would keep it in a very safe place, or have it where it could be "easily taken care of. 2344. In the statement which Mr. Millard has read respecting what passed at the time when the index was discontinued, it was stated that you were very uneasy about it,*so that you could not sleep at night on account of it ; do you agree in ' that statement ? — Not at all ; my uneasiness arose, as it regarded himj from the change it was likely to make in Mr. Millard's circumstances. 2345. Your uneasiness arose from a consideration merely of his feelings? — Entirely so. ■ 2346. Did you deem an index to the manuscripts an important work? — Cer- tainly it is. ' 2347. Has it been continued since ? — It has not ; the reason is, that the cata- logues are not all in that perfect state in which they ought to be previous to carrying it on. The work is therefore suspended till the catalogues have been thoroughly revised. 2348. Is there a revision of the catalogues going on ? — There is, and it is pro- ceedii^g rapidly. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 173 JoviSf 2" die Julii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Mr. John Millard, called in ; and further Examined, 2349. HAVE you anything to add to the evidence whicii you gave the Com- Mr. John Millard. inittee on a iformer day? — Yes; I stated in my evidence on J^Ionday, that I had ■ no recollection of Sir Henry Ellis ever having lent me the Archaismus Graphicus, ^ •'"^J' ^^35- for the purpose of learning to read manuscripts. Sir Henry Ellis once lent me the Transactions of the Celtic (now the Antiquariain) Society of Paris, which was returned to him in two months, and he must be under an entire mistake as to the Archaismus Graphicus. If he had ever lent me this last manuscript, I should hav£ copied it, for the mere perusal of it would have been of little or no use ; and I can state positively that I never copied it. With reference to the performance of my duty in the Manuscript department, while I was under the direction of Sir Henry EUis and Mr. Forshall respectively, I beg to add that monthly reports of the pro- gress of the Index were made by me to Sir Henry Ellis and to Mr. Forshall, which were presented to the Trustees by them, and in no one instance was any objection taken to the quantity or quality of the work. While in the service of the Museum, I wrote about 90,000 titles. The whole would have been revised and correcited by me after it had been arranged in alphabetical order, so that no error could have easily escaped me. From the errors that have been pointed out, or that may be pointed out, no mischief could arise, because before the Index was printed or trans- cribed for use, every slip which I had written would have been compared with the catalogue, and would have been corrected by me, so that there would scarcely have been any possibility of any error escaping me. 2350. Have you anything more to add ? — No. Sir Henry Ellis, called in ; and further Examined. 2351. IS there anything you wish to add to your evidence with reference to ^ir Henri/ Ellis. Mr. Millard ? — A question was put to Mr. Millard respecting my lending him the Archaismus Graphicus ; I can only say that up to the time of my being examined on this inquiry, Mr. Millard was the only person to whom, to the best of my belief, I ever lent that manuscript, and I beg to say positively that I did lend him that manuscript with the sole view that he might become acquainted with the contrac- tions of manuscript writing, and fit himself for the higher duty of the Index upon which he was employed. I have nothing to add beyond that, except that I ac- ined into a General Index, and in that work of combination Mr. Millard was employed. 2394. Then the matter was prepared for him before he undertook it ? — Cer- tainly. 2395. In short, other persons besides Mr. Millard had the preparing of the work ? — It was done in oju* own establishment ; and then the compilation took place into one series of alphabetical arrangement, bringing all the subjects together, cross references being introduced, and the subjects brought together under appropriate heads ; that was the work upon which Mr. Millard was employed. 2396. Had you ever employed Mr. Millard in indexing'or cataloguing any other work ? — Our employment is more particularly confined to the business of the House of Commons, and I am not aware that we ever employed Mr. Millard on any other works but those emanating from the House of Commons. 2397. Did the works you employed Mr. Millard upon, require literary attain- ments or classical knowledge? — It is really difficult for me to give an opinion upon that subject. I should conceive a man who has acquired classical knowledge and literary attainments becomes more fit for the task, but those acquirements are pos- sibly not absolutely necessary. 2398. And therefore is no criterion of his literary attainments or classical know- ledge ? — It cannot be a criterion. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 177 Sir Henry Ellis, called in ; and further Examined. ^ h' Henry Elli s. 2399. YOU were asked on a former occasion whether classed catalogues exist 2 July 1835, generally in foreign libraries, and your answer was, " I do not think they do; there is none in the Royal Library at Paris, for instance, and that is a very large library; I mean none for the last half century." Have you anything to add on that head ? — Nothing that I recollect. 2400. Do you mean to say that from your own knowledge there is no classed catalogue existing in any foreign library ? — By no means, because I have not seen any very great number of foreign libraries ; 1 have only seen the chief of those in France and Belgium. 2401. Then why did you say that you did not believe that classed catalogues exist in foreign libraries? — Because a good classed catalogue of any great foreign library would be sure to be known in an institution like the Museum. 2402. The question is not whether any good classed catalogue exists in foreign libraries, but whether any classed catalogue exists, good or bad ? — I have never seen any. 2403. Have you ever had your attention drawn to the Imperial Library at St. Petersburgh ? — I have not. 2404. Do you know the extent of that library ? — I do not ; I have understood it is a very extensive library. 2405. In the return that was made to the House of Commons, and printed the 1 8th of May 1 835, it is there stated that in the Imperial Library of St. Peters- burgh there are three catalogues : La Catalogue Alphabetique des Livres par Ordre des Matieres : La Catalogue Alphabetique des Auteurs ; et La Catalogue Raison- n^e ; are you acquainted at all with these catalogues ? — Not at all ; I never heard of them in print ; I conclude they are in manuscript. 2406. Supposing such catalogues to exist, would they not be desirable works to have in the Museum ? — If they are in print, it might be desirable for us to have them ; but I do not conceive it would be desirable for us to have a transcript made of such manuscript catalogues. 2407. Supposing them to be in print, it would be desirable for the Museum to possess them ? — Every book of that description is desirable for the Museum Library. 2408. Have you or the trustees made any inquiry on the subject of classed cata- logues in libraries abroad ? — I am not aware that any inquiries of that kind have been made. 2409. Is that from your not thinking it of any importance r — No, by no means. 241 o. Why then, when the subject of a classed catalogue has been so long under the consideration of the Trustees of the Museum, have you made no inquiries as to catalogues in libraries abroad ? — I think there are people in this country quite as fit to class books as in any other country ; I do not know why we should go to Russia to seek for such persons. 2411. You were not asked whether you should go to Russia to seek for persons, but whether the Trustees, when the subject of a classed catalogue has been so long under their consideration, have made any inquiry as to classed catalogues in libraries abroad ? — I do not know that they have made any inquiry, and there are very few libraries abroad which equal the Museum Library in extent, and therefore the in- quiry would limit itself. It would be the classed catalogue of a very large library only that would be important to us. 2412. Do you know the extent of the Imperial Library at St. Petersburgh? — I do not. . 241 3. Then how do you know there are no libraries abroad which equal the Museum Library in extent, when of the large libraries abroad you know nothing ?— , I believe there are very few libraries abroad which equal that of the Museum. The library at Paris, the library at Vienna, and I suppose the library at Berlin, are large libraries, but we have little literary intercourse with Russia ; at the same time I have reason to believe that the fruits of conquest have added very greatly of late to the Emperor's library at St. Petersburgh. 2414, Have you ever made yourself acquainted with the constitution of the Im- perial Library at St. Petersburgh ? — Not at all. I never made any inquiry upon that subject., 2415. Are you not aware that the libraries and scientific institutions abroad are chiefly conducted by literary and scientific men ? — I really am not acquainted with the constitution of the libraries alluded to. In our own institutioh, I am placed 479- A A at 178 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis, at the head of the whole general repository : and though called Principal Libra- ' rian, the library itself is not my peculiar department. 1 July 1835. 2416. I am not asking with reference to the details of each department, but con- sidering you as chief officer of the Museum, I ask whether you know the extent of the public library in Denmark, for instance ? — No. 2417. In Vienna? — No. I never was at Vienna ; but I know it is a great and an important library. 2418. At Paris ? — I am very well acquainted with the library at Paris. 241 9. What is the extent of the library in the British Museum, and the number of volumes ? — I believe the number is 240,000 volumes. 2420. Suppose the library at St. Petersburgh should consist of an equal number of volumes, and should possess an admirable classed catalogue, would it not show that such a work was perfectly within the reach of the Trustees of the British Museum ? — Decidedly so ; within their reach ; and so is the catalogue of any library that has been printed, if they choose to send for it ; but I do not exactly see the drift of the question. 2421. Are you aware of the number of volumes in the Museum Library stated in the return in the year 1833 ?—l am not. 2422. In the return of the year 1833, under the head Printed Books, the number of volumes is stated to be 218,957 ; will you inform the Committee who made that return to the House of Commons ? — Mr. Forshall, as Secretary, drew up the return as it was supplied to him from the respective departments, I presume, by the officers of those departments. 2423. Were you consulted at all on the subject? — I was consulted on those parts which related to the principal librarian, but every thing relating to the departments was contributed by those who had the appropriate care of the separate departments. 2424. Was not Mr. Lee at one time the librarian of the Royal Society, em- ployed by the Trustees of the Museum under the direction of Mr, Home in classi- fying the mathematical and philosophical books? — He was employed under the direction of Mr. Baber, the head of the department, but not under Mr. Home's directions, to class the mathematical and some other books. 2425 Did he so class them ? — He did. 2426. Is he now employed? — 'He is dead. His work was well done. 2427. Was his catalogue also a catalogue raisonn6e as well as a classed catalogue? — He made his catalogue by transcribing the titles of books and placing them under heads ; as far as that is a catalogue raisonnee it is also a classed catalogue. I do not make distinction between a catalogue raisonnee and a classed catalogue. They are very nearly the same : upon the same plan, but one perhaps a little more detailed than the other. 2428. Of what use is that portion of his labours applied to in reference to the general catalogue that is forming? — I presume that the slips with titles, which relate to that department of science, or those departments of science, which he cata- logued, if they have not already been, will be made available for the alphabetical catalogue ; and, as I before mentioned, certain marks having been placed upon thera they will be returned hereafter, be again re-sorted, and applied to the making of the classed catalogue. 2429. Then so much of the labour as was employed in classifying these titles, is entirely thrown away ? — Certainly not, because their positions in the classifica- tion will be marked. I do not know whether they are yet broken up, Mr. Baber will answer that. 2430. It is intended to break them up ? — I believe when they are wanted they will be broken up. 243 1 . Then all that time and labour which was spent in arranging them for a classed catalogue will be lost to the Museum, in consequence of the titles being broken up to form an alphabetical catalogue ? — I think I mentioned in a former part of my evidence, that the labour of replacing titles so broken up, is an inferior and shorter labour, compared with that of their original writing and arrangement. 2432. Was Sir Frederick Madden, before he was made a knight of Hanover, one of the gentlemen of His Majesty's Privy Chamber, and an assistant-keeper of the manuscripts, employed under the direction of Mr, Home? — Not under the direction of Mr. Home ; Mr. Home is himself subordinately employed. 2433. Under whose direction ? — Under the direction of the head of the depart- ment of Printed Books, the Rev. Mr. Baber. 2434. But SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 179 2434. But he was so employed in making a classed catalogue ? — He was employed ^" Henry Ellis. in the historical portion of the classification. 2435. Was not Mr. Carey also employed on the same or similar labour? — ■ 2 July 1835. Yes, he was a son of the Rev. Mr. Carey ; he was employed on another class. 2436. Mr. Tidd Pratt was also employed on the legal department, was he not 1 — Yes ; Mr. Tidd Pratt was employed on the jurisprudence. 2437. Supposing such powerful assistants had been continued conjointly with the labours of Mr. Home and Mr. Baber, do you not think some prdgress would have been made in the formation of a classed catalogue, which you yourself admit to be of great importance in your library ?— I hope some day to see a classed catalogue of our library completed. There is no doubt that considerable progress would have been made, as the question states ; but the Trustees judged well to make a new and complete alphabetical catalogue their first endeavour. It was a duty. They have only suspended, the classed catalogue for a time. 2438. Was that decision on the part of the Trustees, with reference to a classed catalogue, made conjointly with the opinions of the principal officers of the Museum ? — Undoubtedly. The Museum wanted a new formation of their alpha- betical catalogue ; it is a pressing want. 2439. You have stated that the only reason the classed catalogue was delayed, was merely on the ground of the great expense which has been incurred, and that the alphabetical catalogue was the most useful catalogue to have first ? — I have so stated. The alphabetical catalogue was wanted by the readers greatly, and it appeared to be the first and foremost labour which should be undertaken ; and to undertake two catalogues at a great expense, at the same time, would perhaps have occasioned a murmur at the large sum of money which might be required. But the alphabe- tical catalogue was indispensable ; and, therefore, the other was suspended until that was completed. 2440. Did the Trustees ever take any means to represent the importance of a classed catalogue to Parliament, with a view to obtain a larger grant? — They did, to the Lords of the Treasury. 2441. Can you state when ? — It was in 1826. 2442. Was it by way of memorial? — A letter was written to the Lords of the Treasury requesting a grant in aid of 1,600/. a year, for three or four years, to enable the Trustees to engage certain persons for a limited time, eminent for their acquaintance with particular divisions or classes of knowledge, for the more perfect arrangement of the titles under the same in their proposed classed catalogue, 2443. Now you have stated to the Committee, that you consider an alphabetical catalogue of the gi-eatest importance, with reference to a classed catalogue ? — Yes, because most used. 2444. Is it not customary to add to all classed catalogues, where they do exist, an alphabetical index or alphabetical list of authors, and the titles ? — Yes, a very short index ; merely sufficient to direct the person consulting it to any particular author's work. It is not like an alphabetical catalogue superadded to a classed cata- logue ; it is merely an index of names, or of subjects where there is no author's name, and cannot be made a substitute for an alphabetical catalogue. 2445. It is arranged alphabetically ? — Yes ; but it would be unsatisfactory as an alphabetical catalogue, subjoined to a classed catalogue. 2446. But it is arranged alphabetically, both with I'eference to authors and to titles, is it not ? — That depends upon the directions you give the persons who are employed in making the catalogue. 2447. But you do think it important that the index should be so arranged, if completed? — The index of authors' names would probably be the only index you would want ; for the subjects being under classes, you would under the respective classes find the subjects. 2448. It would render the classed catalogue more perfect if the titles and names of authors could be advantageously conjoined, would it not ? — Yes. It would be making two catalogues at once : a classed catalogue and an alphabetical catalogue at the same time. 2449. Would it not then have been most to the interest of the public that the classed catalogue should have proceeded, more especially as you had advanced a con- siderable way towards its completion I — I should say not. 2450. Now, will you state why?— -Because in an alphabetical catalogue the • length of titles should be considerable, and you could not introduce^ that length of title in the index to a classed catalogue. 2451. The question is, whether with reference to the interests of the public, and A A 2 the- i8o MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henri/ Ellis, the use to be made of a National library, would it not be most desirable that the two catalogues should have proceeded concurrently ? — I think not ; because an alpha- 3 July 1835. betical catalogue was decidedly wanted as soon as possible ; and, therefore, we were right in proceeding with the alphabetical catalogue, and leaving the classed cata- logue to be proceeded with at leisure. 2452. You think then, that supposing Parliament to have been liberally dis- posed, and there had been no objection on the score of expense, that the formation of these two catalogues' concurrently would not have been a matter of public im- portance ? — No, by no means ; but we must have doubled our catalogue establish- ment to have proceeded with both. 2453. The question then is, do you consider a conjunct classed and alphabetical catalogue as one of the greatest importance to a National library or not ? — I should like to see both catalogues. I would have the alphabetical catalogue printed, and the classed catalogue left in manuscript. 2454. If that be the case, and you think two such catalogues conjointly desir- able, will you give any proof of the exertions of the Trustees, or of the officers of the Museum, with a view to complete such catalogue ? — I do no think them con- jointly desirable. I wish to see the alphabetical catalogue proceeded with as rapidly as possible, for where one man consults a classed catalogue, 500 consult' an alphabetical one. I wish to see an alphabetical catalogue first, and let the other go on more deliberately. 2455. You say you think them both of great importance ; and I ask you, sup- pose Parliament had been liberally disposed, whether or not you would, under these ■circumstances, have urged the formation of those catalogues conjointly or not ? — If the Trustees had had money at that time, and had been disposed, there was no reason why the two catalogues should not have gone on together ; but, at the same time, I would have put double force on the one, and left the other ; the one is so extremely important, nay, so absolutely necessary. 24.56. Assuming a classed catalogue to be formed, would it not show the exact state of the library, its richness, or its poverty, in reference to particular branches of literature? — Yes, that would have been one advantage gained. 2457. -Are there any branches of literature which are more or less complete in the library of the British Museum? — They do not all bear the same proportion of completeness. . 2458. In what branch do you consider the Museum most rich, and which branch do you consider most marked by poverty, in the collection ? — I hardly know how to answer that question to my satisfaction. I conceive we are extremely rich in the history of Europe as written in the native languages of each country ; I conceive we are extremely rich also in what may be called international law ; in the classics ; and in the English drama. There are various classes in which we are very strong. 2459. What are the poorest classes ? — Probably we may be poor in modern Eng- lish law of the more ordinary kind ; but the Museum Library is not decidedly poor in any class. 2460. If such a classed catalogue as that which I have been speaking of was formed, would it not have shown at one view the poverty of any particular branch ? — Not at one view ; you must look under the different branches. 2461. If any one wished to know the comparative richness or poverty of the library in any particular class, he would ascertain it by referring to the classed cata- logue, would he not ? — He would ascertain it more readily, perhaps, by consulting the librarian. 2462. Would he not ascertain it from the catalogue? — Certainly; he would ascertain what we had in our library. 2463. And it would show to foreigners the state of your library, as compared with their own ?— I doubt whether foreigners would consult it for that purpose, 2464. The question is, whether it would or would not show them the state of your library, as compared with their own ?— It would no doubt show that, if that was a subject of inquiry. 2465. Do you think that the library of the British Museum, if classed, would in all branches of science or literature appear to have been as wisely collected as it ought to have been ?— -1 think so ; but there is this to be taken into consideration, that you cannot always fill up your wants in any particular class of literature at any moment you may choose. You must take certain books, if they are books of rarity, as you find them ; and you may be looking for books for years and not find them. You cannot fill up the classes at your pleasure, even if you are regardless of expense. 2466. Am I to infer from that answer that the Museum is as rich in all modern o ordinary SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 181 ordinary literary works as it ought to be ? — I think it is as rich as you can expect sir Henry Ellis. it to have been made. ' 2467. The question is, whether it be the fact or not that it is as rich in every 2 July 1835. branch of modern literature, that is literature within the reach of mere money at any time, as it ought to be ? — It is as rich as the money granted to the Museum would allow it to be made. 2468. That you are prepared to state as your opinion? — Some years ago, we have had 250 /. only granted for the purchase of books ; and in another year, we have had 1,000/, "With larger means, we could make greater additions. 2469. Take the Topographical department for instance; are you perfectly satis- fied with the state of that department at the present moment ? — I think it is exceed- ingly good. 2470. Take foreign literary works generally; works of distinguished foreign- authors? — We have laid out a great deal of money in the purchase of works of foreign authors. Newspaper paragraphs and other literary productions have fre- quently blamed us for not having the best books on Natural History, whereas I be- lieve our library is furnished to a greater extent with books of natural history than almost any modern library you will meet with. 2471. "With reference to classed catalogues, are you aware that there is a classed catalogue of Queen's College, Cambridge? — I am. 2472. By whom was that prepared ? — By Mr. Hartwell Home. ' 2473. Are you aware there is also a classed catalogue of the library at Sion College ? — There is ; it is an old one. 2474. And also a classed catalogue of the library of the Inner Temple ?-. — Yes. 2475. And also a classed catalogue of the library of the London Institution ? — Yes. 2476. And also a classed catalogue of the library of the Surrey Institution? — Yes. 2477. And also of the Russell Institution? — Yes. 2478. And also of the Royal Institution? — Yes. It was one of the first of the smaller classed catalogues, and, I believe, the pattern for most of them. 2479. -^"^ ^'^0 of many local libraries? — I daresay, of many local libraries. It is but just I should remark here, that such little catalogues as have been named to me afford no scope for laborious classification ; and from their very limited extent, and chiefly consisting of modern literature, exemplify none of the difficulties in classification. Some of those mentioned, too, can hardly be considered as classed catalogues, from their miserable execution. One has been pointed out to me in which Phrenology stands between Disease and Plague. Whatever the catalogue may be called, I cannot call this classification. 2480. Are you aware of the state of the catalogue of the library of the Writers to the Signet, at Edinburgh ? — ^Yes. 2481. Is that also a classed catalogue? — Yes. 2482. And one perfectly arranged? — One very well arranged. . 2483. Now, considering that all these private institutions have classed catalogues, do you not think it is a just inference that a classed catalogue is deemed to be a work of first-rate importance for the convenience of those who frequent the library ? — It would be extremely useful ; but there is one thing which must be remembered, that the catalogues of the libraries which have been alluded to are mostly confined to one or two octavo volumes ; whereas 12 or 20 octavo volumes perhaps, however small and closely printed, would not hold the classed catalogue of our library. 2484. I have referred to these local and private institutions, and I have referred to them only because you inform the Committee you know nothing of the larger libraries abroad ; I must therefore ask you whether or no you are aware, that of the most extensive libraries abroad there are also classed catalogues? — I have never seen the classed catalogues of those libraries, and I do not believe that any have been published of late years. 2485. Then your opinion of the formation of a classed catalogue, with reference to the Museum Library, must be taken in conjunction with the fact that you are not acquainted with the state of the catalogues of the great libraries abroad? — I am acquainted with most of the catalogues that have been printed and have come to this country, but I am not acquainted with the manuscript catalogues abroad, never having had the opportunity, whatever my wish might have been, of long residence on the Continent. In the former part of my evidence, I stated that I was not acquainted with any classed catalogues of the great libraries of Eutope which had 479- , A A 3 recently i82 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Hennj Ellis, recently been made. I am aware there is, in five or six folio volumes, a classed catalogue of the King of France's Library, published between 1 739 and 1 750, and 2 July \ 835. a very valuable catalogue it is, as far as it extends ; but it does not include one half nor one fourth of the books in that library at present : and indeed is itself con- fined to Theology, Jurisprudence, and the Belles Lettres. I was speaking of classed catalogues recently made. 2486. When I spoke of catalogues of private and local institutions, you seemed to draw a distinction between the classed catalogue of a small library and a classed catalogue of a large national library ; and having stated that you are unacquainted with the catalogues of the large libraries abroad, 1 could only ask you the question in reference to local and private institutions at home ; now in reference to the larger libraries abroad, I ask you whether you know of any classed catalogue which has come to this country, to use your own term ? — I do not recollect any of late years. 2487. Then will you state what catalogues you know of of former times ? — There is a classed catalogue of the Bunau Library, now at Dresden, 3 vols., in seven parts, 4to., Leipsic, 1750-1756 ; there is the Bibliotheca Firmiana, 7 vols., 4to., Milan, 1783; there is the Catalogue of the Library of the Therfisan College at Vienna, in 13 vols., 4to., published between 1801 and 1806; and the Catalogue des Livres de la Bibliotheque du Conseil d'Etat, 2 tom. fol., Paris, An. xi. ; and there are various others. 2488. Are these classed catalogues ? — Yes. 2489. Do you know the extent of those libraries ? — No further than from the catalogues. 2490. But the magnitude of the library would only produce this effect, that the expense of forming a catalogue would be great, and the time would be extended ? — Yes ; and greater and more extended talent would be required for the work. 249 1 . Considering, therefore, that all these local institutions have classed cata- logues, and many of the great libraries abroad to which I cannot refer, from your not being acquainted with them, is it not a just conclusion for the Committee to come to, that a classed catalogue is a work of first-rate importance ? — I think it is of second-rate importance. The alphabetical catalogue is the one I am anxious to see, because I know it will accommodate the public to the greatest extent. A classed catalogue will not be consulted by more than one man, where 1,000 will consult the other. 2492. Have the other institutions which have been spoken of, alphabetical as well as classed catalogues } — There cannot be a doubt upon it. 2493. Are you aware^whether there be a classed catalogue of the library in Paris, printed or in manuscript, to which the public have access, of any later date than the catalogue already mentioned ? — I believe none, because the catalogue which is at this moment used in the library of Paris, and referred to by the readers, is that catalogue. 2494. Are you aware whether there be at this moment any catalogues, alphabe- tically arranged, of the collections in the Royal Library at Paris, brought down to the present time ? — Mr. Van Praet, the librarian, showed me, several years ago, when 1 asked for a continuation of his catalogue, a drawer filled with a pile of papers, perhaps a foot high, and said, " This is all we have done in the way of catalogues of late." There might be two or three drawers. I said, '• This (meaning the catalogue) is 20 years old ; " he answered " Yes ; " and he told me afterwards, that the whole of the books in the garrets of the institution, through which we were then walking, were uncatalogued. 2495. At what time did the conversation take place to which you have just referred? — Either in 1828 or 1829 ; I was in Paris both years. 2496. Are you aware whether there be any classed catalogue of the Bodleian Library 1 — There is no classed catalogue of the Bodleian Library. 2497. Are you aware whether there be any classed catalogue of the Advocate's Library, at Edinburgh ? — There is an alphabetical catalogue, in two folio volumes. 2498. Are you aware whether there be any classed catalogue of the library of Trinity College, Dublin ? — There may be one, but I am not certain. 2499. Are you aware that they are going to form a classed catalogue on a new system at St. Petersburgh ? — No, I am not. Our literary intercourse with St. Pe- tersburgh is less than with most countries of Europe. I suspect their classification will be adopted from the French. 2500. In a small library can you trust to the memory of a librarian better than in a large library ? — Where there is a certain degree of juxta-position of subjects, the SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 183 the librarian knows pretty generally what the library contains ; that is itself a sort Sir Henry Ellis. of classification. The way that Mr. Van Praet used to find his books in Paris — — ~- was by placing them in faculties; and if you wanted any work which was not in ^ ^"'y ^^35- the catalogue, he went to the particular faculty and found the book ; he has them in folio, quarto, and octavo, and if you tell him the size he will run his finger along the class, and find the work. 2501. Is not that a sort of approximation or substitute for a classed catalogue? — It is applying to a living classed catalogue. 2502. Is it not much safer to trust to a written catalogue than to the memory of the librarian ? — No doubt, a classed catalogue is a most desirable thing. 2503. Is it not of most importance in proportion to the extensiveness of the collection, because the memory of the librarian cannot extend to a very large col- lection ? — I think it is of great importance ; but still such a catalogue is, really, only a secondary object. The great first object is to find the books as rapidly as possible for the readers. 2504. You mean of secondary object, because an alphabetical catalogue is more indispensable to the great mass of readers? — Yes. 2505. But to men of literary and scientific pursuits a classed catalogue is also indispensable ? — There cannot be a doubt but that a classed catalogue is desirable. 2506. But for literary and scientific purposes a classed catalogue is also exceed- ingly useful 1 — Undoubtedly. 2507. And has been found sufi&cient in all the largest libraries of the country ? — You will observe that such a library as that of the British Museum is a library of research, mostly frequented by, and indeed mainly designed for, authors who are writing and compiling works. The greater part of these authors are acquainted with the books which have been written on their respective subjects of research ; and therefore inquiries for a classed catalogue are fewer from them than on a first thought would be expected. 2508. Do literary and scientific people consult the catalogue so much as those in an inferior grade of attainment ? — No, it is generally the less well-informed who ai-e so anxious to refer to a classed catalogue. 2509. If literary men come to inquire, of course they want information.^ — Cer- tainly. 2510. Therefore to them a classed catalogue must be necessary r — No ; a literary man is generally informed upon his subject, and ought to be so if he is to write to advantage. 251 J. Suppose it should happen, and it would appear to be so to a certain extent from the evidence you have given, that public Institutions have not classed catalogues, but that most private Institutions have, should you conceive that that being the fact would indicate greater activity, and a desire to render private libra- ries more useful on the part of those who conduct them, as compared with the desire to make public libraries useful on the part of those who conduct institutions like yours ? — By no means ; I conceive that a library being small in extent, and easily catalogued, of course the catalogue is made with greater facility ; and I am sorry to say that most of the small classed catalogues I have seen, have been heed- lessly made ; made, considering their trifling extent, with less care than the direc- tors who ordered them could have intended. Sound bibliographers think lightly of such classed catalogues ; the extent of the libraries in no instance affording scope even for a moderate outline of classification. They are not objects of com- parison with any proposed classed catalogue of a national library. 2512. But surely a classed catalogue is most valuable in proportion to the extent of the library, and particularly in proportion to the antiquity of its collections ? — Undoubtedly. 2513. And therefore such catalogue would be more desirable for the British Museum "Library than the library at Edinburgh, or any of the foreign libraries to which you have alluded ." — In proportion to its extent it would be more useful. Indeed, I consider those small catalogues as comparatively of little use. 2514. If the two catalogues are combined, could they be done cheaper than by being done separately r — I could not give an opinion on that subject till I saw the plans of the two. 25 1 5. If they were done conjointly, would you not have to put on other hands, which must be taken from the other departments? — Yes, there must be an addi- tion to the catalogue establishment ; whatever persons were engaged should be entirely devoted to the work. * 479. A A 4 2516. The 184 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Sir Henry Ellis. 25 1 6. The materials used for alphabetical catalogues are useful in forming a classed ■ catalogue, are they not ? — Not without great alteration. 2 July 1835. 2517. They would save a great deal of consultation of the books ? — Yes, they would. 2518. I think you have stated that you are responsible for the cornposition and publication of the Synopsis ?— Not for the composition of the Synopsis. As prin- cipal librarian I so far superintend the actual publication of it, that I give the printer his general instructions, and I receive the proceeds of publication and pay them over to the Bank of England ; and I believe for about four pages of the pre- sent Synopsis I am answerable, that is just the introductory part. Whatever relates to the departments is prepared in manuscript, and sent to the press, by the respec- tive officers of those which are described. It would be impossible for any principal librarian to be answerable for the technicalities of the descriptions of mineralogy or zoology, or any other branches of science, unless he was familiar with them. 2519. But for the grammar, or the English composition, who is responsible for that ? — I certainly am not the schoolmaster on the occasion. 2520. Then should there beany questions asked you with respect to the gram- mar or composition of the Synopsis, perhaps you will have the goodness to intimate to the Committee to whom those questions ought to be addressed? — Certainly. I must say, candidly, that I have referred back several sheets at times, and said, I thought they might be improved. 2521. From what department did these sheets proceed? — I do not recollect at the present moment, but I have remonstrated, on one or two occasions, when I thought the articles were not so lucidly described as they ought to have been. 2522. But as that implies something like a gentle reproof to the principals of the departments of the Museum, will you state to the Committee to what department you refer, when you state that sheets describing the contents of that department have been sent back for correction ? — I think it was in the Zoological department, but I really cannot refer to the pages. The edition in which the emendations were made has been sold oflF. 2523. You have stated in answer to the question 269, that you have the general care and superintendence of the publication of the Synopsis ? — I referred more to the sale of the Synopsis than its authorship. 2524. You do not consider yourself the editor ? — No, certainly not. Perhaps the Trustees ought to consider me as sending forth the book to the world, but the book is written by the officers of the departments. 2525. Supposing there be any gross error committed in the Synopsis, who is considered responsible within the range of the Museum for that error ? — The officer who has described the particular article. 2526. Then would it not be desirable that the officers should affix their names to the descriptions which proceed from them, in order that the public may appre- ciate the value of each ? — I do not think it is at all necessary. 2527. So that if there be a gross error committed, you would rather leave it as a general reproach to all the officers of the Museum than that it should fall upon him upon whom it ought to fall ? — Certainly not. One of the Members of the Com- mittee must be aware that, with a view to the accommodation of this inquiry, I sent him the very first copy which could be got ready of the present edition of the Synopsis ; that very few days after that, I discovered an omission, particularly of the Portland Vase. I had a cancel made ; I collected every attainable copy in, and I sent the honourable Member a fresh copy, with the addition, requestino- he would have the goodness to send me back the former copy, but he retained it. 2528. The Committee are aware that what you have stated is perfectly correct, but the question had no sort of reference to the errors committed in that copy of the Synopsis ; but it had reference to the other errors in the corrected copy which is now before the Committee. Supposing, therefore, that the errors are pointed out, the Committee understand that you will inform them who is responsible for the errors in that part of the Synopsis ? — If I am able I will, certainly. 2529. There is an account on the first fly leaf of various descriptions of ancient terra cottas and marbles, and a list also of catalogues published, with the prices annexed ; is the copyright of those works respectively in the hands of the Trustees of the British Museum ? — I should conceive so, unquestionably, I cannot recollect the list. I believe some of the catalogues have been published by the Commissioners on the Public Records. The Cottonian, the Harleian, and the Lansdowne Cata- logues, and the Catalogue of the King's Library, the Trustees have no copyright in. 2530. Who SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 185 2530. Who possesses the copyrights in those catalogues ?— The Commissioners Sir Henry Ellis. upon the Public Records. Casley's Catalogue is a very old book ; no one has any copyright in that. 2 July 1835. 2531. Are these catalogues and descriptions published and edited at the expense of the public ?— The Descriptions of the Ancient Terra Cottas and Marbles, in six parts; the Catalogue of the Greek Coins, by Mr. Taylor Combe; the Anglo Gallic Coins, by Mr. Edward Hawkins ; the Catalogue of the Library of Printed Books ; the Catalogue of the Manuscripts formerly Mr. Hargrave's ; the Fac-simile of the Codex Alexandrinus ; the Catalogue of the Geographical and Topographical Collec- tions of the Royal Library ; Mr. Payne Knight's Catalogue of his Greek Coins ; and the Catalogue of the Arundel Manuscripts, have certainly all been published at the public expense, under the direction of the Trustees of -the British Museum. 2532. The copyright, therefore, rests in the Trustees of the British. Museum? — I should conceive so. 2533- Now, will you state what works have not been published at the expense of , the Trustees on this list ? — The Catalogue of the Cottonian Collection of Manu- scripts was published under the order of the House of Commons ; the Catalogues of the Harleian and Lansdowne Manuscripts were published exclusively under the orders and at the expense of the Commissioners on the Public Records. The copyrights of the latter rest with the Commissioners. The copyright of the Cata- logue of the King's Library, by Casley, was printed in 1 734 • therefore all copy- right in that has expired ; and also in that catalogue of manuscripts which was published by Mr. Ayscough in 1782. 2534. But none of these works are to be considered in the light of private un- dertakings ? — Mr. Ayscough's Catalogue, and I believe Casley's Catalogue, were both private undertakings. 2535- But no others ? — No others. 2536. Are you responsible for the Synopsis, so far as page 5 ? — No, only to pages. 2537. Will you inform the Committee who is responsible for the descriptions of the articles contained in the first eight rooms of the Museum ? — I rather think Mr. Hawkins ; they are, to a great extent, objects of antiquity. 2538. For all that part of -the Synopsis, under the head of Natural History, which extends from page 19 to page 150, who is responsible ? — For the Mineraldgy, Mr. Kdnig is answerable ; for the Zoology, Mr. Children, and he has a very eminent scientific man working under him as a zoologist, but he is a specimen of a man of science who is not a literary man. 2539. From page 150 there is a description of the Antiquities generally; who is responsible for that ? — Mr. Hawkins. 2540. Does Mr. Hawkins's responsibility also extend to the medal room ?— It does. 2541 . Who is responsible for the regulations concerning the inspection of the Museum ? — I ought to be ; but they have been reprinted from time to time, and at the end of every edition of the Synopsis. I hope there is not even a typogra- phical error in them. Those regulations were drawn up before my time ; I have continued them at the end of the Synopsis. I Luna, 20° die Julii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Charles Kdnig, Esq., called in ; and Examined. 2542. WHAT appointments doyou hold in the British Museum? — I am one of Charles Kdnig, the Under Librarians ; my department is that of Natural History. ^^^' 2543. In what year were you appointed? — In 1813. 2544. Will you inform the Committee what is the amount of your salary as an ^° "^"'^ *^35« officer of the British Museum, and the amount of any emolument you derive in virtue of that office r — My fixed salary for two days' attendance is 200 1., and 225 /. for three additional days extra duty, making a total of 425 /. 2545. Are there any other emoluments derived by you in virtue of your situa- tion as keeper of the Natural History department ? — There is a sum of about 5 /. 479. B B odd, i86 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charles Komg, odd, which I receive annually under the will of Dr. Birch ; and stationery, which Esq. amounts to about 5 /. more, or under 5 l. 20 Jul iSq/; 2546. You have also, I believe, a house ?—r Apartments. ^ 2547. What amount of apartments are appropriated to > you 1 — I have a large room for a drawing-room, and a small room adjoining, a dining-room under the drawing-room, a, bed-room, two garrets, and a kitchen. 2548. What do you consider to be the duties attached to your office ? — The joint duties of the keeper of the Natural History department, and his assistants, are to preserve, arrange and complete, the diflFerent collections entrusted to their care. 2549. Have you the entire charge of the minerals, fossils, zoological, and other objects of natural history ? — I have the entire charge of all these branches belonging, to the department of Natural History, and also of what is vulgarly called artificial curiosities ; these (exclusive of antiquities, prints, and medals,) belong to my depart- ment ; at least they have not been taken from me ; and in point of fact I have the custody of several of those objects which are kept in different parts of the Museum. 2550. Do you allude to curiosities of art ? — Most of them have very little to do with art. 2551. Will you mention one as an example? — For instance, a portrait of Lord Henniker, set with diamonds. 2552. Is the Committee to understand that you have the entire arrangement and superintendence of the Natural History department, or do you confine yourself more immediately to minerals and fossils 1 — When I first came to the Museum, on the promdtion of Dr. Shaw, as his assistant, Dr. Shaw took to himself the branch of zoology entirely; indeed it had been his department before, under Dr. Gray. I myself, among other occupations, chiefly attended to the botanical collection, and that of minerals, which latter was then a small assemblage of objects. After the death of Dr. Shaw, I succeeded him, and Dr. Leach was appointed to succeed me as assistant in the department. Dr. Leach was an excellent naturalist, and [ was glad to have an opportunity of giving up almost the whole of the branch of zoology to a person so well qualified for it. Dr. Leach soon after was disabled from perfoi-ming the functions of his office, and he was succeeded by Mr. Children. In the interval I occupied myself with zoological pursuits ; re-arranged the British birds, for instance, and did away with Dr. Leach's names, which were complained of as new-fangled. He had his own terminology and nomenclature, and great complaints were excited by his introducing that instead of the old nomenclature, which I superadded to his own. It was afterwards found necessary to appoint some extra assistants : Mr. Samouelle to superintend the collection of insects, and Mr. Gray for zoological purposes generally. Soon after, his brother, Mr. George Gray, was also appointed. "2553- By whom were these appointments made? — These appointments were made by the Trustees. 2554. At whose recommendation were they made ? — I do not know ; not upon my recommendation ; except that I was asked about Mr. Samouelle ; and I had reason to recommend him. I had heard Dr. Leach give him a very good character. 2555' When assistants were to be appointed in your department, were you con- sulted as to these appointments ? — No. 2556. Did you know beforehand that they were to be appointed? — I do not know ; I should think not. 2557- Then the Committee are to understand from your evidencfe, that appoint- ments under you, as keeper of the Natural History department, are made without any consultation with you as head of that department f — Yes. 2558. What is the state at the present moment of the Natural History depart- ment, as contra-distinguished from that of Minerals and Fossils ? — The zoological branch of the department of Natural History is, I think, inferior in completeness to that of the minerals and fossils ; indeed, it is but very lately that the former has experienced improvement. 2559. But putting aside value, and confining the question to, their arrangement and classification, is the collection of zoology in a perfect state? — No, certainly not. 2560. Is that from want of funds, or have representations to that effect ever been made to the Trustees, which have not been attended to ? — I should not say it is from want of funds at present, because Parliament, whenever it is represented as necessary, appears to be inclined to supply all the wants of the Museum. 2561. Have you, as head of the Natural History department, ever represented to SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 187 to the Trustees the poverty of that branch of the collections under your care ? Charles SMg, No, because I had enough to do with that part which occupied my attention more -^^l- particularly. Though the whole of the department is under my care, yet I was sufficiently occupied with that branch which relates to mineralogy and the "^^ ''"^^ ^^^^' secondary fossils, which are become very extensive. 2562. Then for the deficiencies and imperfections of all these branches of natural history, except that immediately under your care, namely, the minerals and fossils, you do not consider yourself responsible ? — I am responsible ; but I could not bring such a subject under the consideration of the Trustees, except under particular circumstances. Having had so much to do with mineralogy, in order to complete that branch, I was very glad not to have any occasion much to interfere with the others ; but if a proper opportunity had offered, I should have considered it my duty to represent to the Trustees the deficiencies, which in ray opinion ought to be supplied as soon as possible. 2563. Have you in point of fact, as head of the Natural History department, made any representations to the Trustees of the imperfections and deficiencies of the ornithological collection, for instance? — L have made general reports, but there being assistants for that branch, of course the details with regard to the deficiencies would be gathered from their information. I never was asked for more than a general report. The principal librarian once drew up a report on the general state of the department, < from materials furnished to him by myself and my col- leagues. {See Appendix, No. 27.) 2564. What was the date of that report? — I think about 1829 or 1830. 2565. Are there any specimens of minerals and fossils in the Museum not yet named or arranged, and therefore not as yet prepared for public inspection ? — There is certainly a portion not exhibited to the public at present, partly from want of room in the cases, and partly because there has been so much to do that I could not possibly get through more than I have performed. 2566. You have found the labour of your office so great as to prevent your naming and arranging some of the minerals now in possession of the Museum? — Yes ; it is one of the largest collections, I suppose, in existence ; but yet I may say that every species is named, though not every specimen. Each specimen is intended to be furnished with a label expressive of the locality, and the ■ character for the illustration of which it is placed in the table. But that is a work of some labour ; it requires a great deal of time, and I am so often called frotn it by other occupations, that it is physically impossible to proceed very rapidly with it. 2567. Can you inform the Committee what proportion these specimens of mine- rals belonging to the Museum which are not exhibited, bear to those which are exhibited .? — It is intended to make a separate collection of British minerals, that is to say, the general collection is not to contain any British specimens, (though it does so at present,) with a view to reserve room for the addition of foreign speci- mens. The whole of the British specimens will hereafter be arranged separately. At present there is not a considerable specimen in the Museum that is not exhi- bited ; and as to the species, they are all named. 2568. I Understood you to say there were several specimens in cases not yet exhibited ? — Yes, of fossils, but not of minerals, except the British minerals, which are to form a separate collection in future, as they did formerly. This took me a great deal of time. I spent two years in forming a British collection, which I was obliged to break up in consequence of the changes made in the locality. 2569. If a foreigner came to the Museum for that purpose, is there any separate British collection, from which he might know what minerals this country possesses ? — There was a collection of British minerals, and indeed it remains, except that several principal British specimens are at present incorporated with the general collection. 2570. Then there is no separate collection of British minerals ? — There is one, but it is not now exhibited as a separate collection. It occupied a large room, and was partly arranged according to the counties, alphabetically, beginning with Bed- fordshire, and so on. 2571. Generally speaking, do you wish the Committee to understand that this arrangement is provisional only, dependent on the construction and completion of the new building? — Y.es, certainly. 2572. Does it entirely arise from the change of buildings ?— 'The room in which B B 2 t"^ i88 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charles Kdnig, the English minerals were arranged, was appropriated to the reception of Sir Joseph Esq. Banks's library. 2573. Then the non-continuance of the public exhibition of that collection has 90 July 1835. arisen solely from the want of space ? — Yes, I should say that is the sole cause. The tables could not be removed into the new building ; there was no room. 2574. In the new building is there any place at present destined for the recep- tion of the separate collection of British minerals, and to which you intend to remove them ?— I am not sufficiently acquainted with the plan of the new wing, to state ■where the collections of natural history are to be deposited. There are some large rooms, and I suppose they may be so appropriated. I have several other plans for collections which should be in the Museum, and which I have frequently reported, but the want of room has prevented the Trustees from attending to the subject. A technical collection, for instance, is required, that is, minerals in a wrought state, and as applied to arts and manufactures. 2575. Have you made a report to that effect ? — Twice, I think, I have reported on the utility of such a collection. 2576. Did you receive any reply from the authorities of the Museum?— I do not remember having had any reply. 2577. How long have these specimens been kept packed up in this way ? — Since the change in their locality. 2578. How long have foreigners coming to this country been deprived of the means of inspecting these specimens of British minerals ; what has been the inter- val? — About three years and a half. 2579. With reference to the British collection which was broken up, but still remains distributed through the general collection, it could be reformed provided there were sufficiently spacious room for its accommodation ? — It is not entirely incorporated with the general collection. Most specimens are contained in drawers, and only a small portion of them was placed in the general collection, when I wished to fill up vacancies ; and I have, within the last two years, taken out several of those English specimens as opportunities offered of replacing them by foreign ones bought at sales, especially Mr. Heuland's. 2580. Would it not very much facilitate your exchanges with foreign museums if you had a particular department appropriated specifically to British minerals ? — Unquestionably ; I think there ought to be one. 2581. Are you aware whether any arrangments are making with a view to give the fullest effect to the alterations which you, as keeper of the Natural History department, believe to be advisable ? — No ; I am ignorant of that. 2582. Has the architect who is employed on the new building ever consulted you as head of the Natural History department upon that subject ? — Never. 2583. Have you ever had communications with the Trustees on the subject of plans of the new building ? — I once had a communication from the secretary, in- viting me to give my ideas on the subject, but it never came to anything. 2584. Was that communication made to you officially? — I think it was not a communication of that kind, or that could be considered as such. It was only an insinuation that I might give an opinion upon that plan. 2585. When was the present collection arranged by you in its present state ? — Within the last three years. 2586. How did it happen that so long a time elapsed after your first appointment, between the completion of the present beautiful arrangement of the minerals, and the old and confused state in which they were ? — Because I had been obliged to do and undo, over and over again, the work of years. I have been obliged to break up, for instance, the entire collection of fossils, when Sir Joseph Banks's library was removed to that part of the building where it now is. I then (interpt-eting the order I had received from the Trustees in that manner) removed the fossils to a corresponding apartment at the other extremity of the upper floor ; but no sooner had I finished the arrangement, than I was ordered to break up the whole again, because it was not the intention of the Trustees that there should be anything but what related to zoology in that part of the building. But most secondary fossils may be considered as belonging to zoology. 2587. Have you ever applied to the Trustees for further assistance, with a view to complete the arrangement of the collection 1 — I have not applied. 2588. Will you state to the Committee why you did not apply to the Trustees when your labours were so great as to prevent your proceeding rapidly with the best SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 189 best possible arrangement of the minerals ? — I supposed my request would not Charles Konig, have been complied with. That was my impression ; I might have been mistaken. Esq. . 2589. What assistance had you in arranging the minerals and writing the labels? — I had none at all ; I did the whole myself. There were two men who '^° -^^^J i^35- filled the trays with cotton ; they filled upwards of 12,000 trays., I wrote the labels myself. 2590. Is the Committee to understand from your answer, that ypu have been obliged to undergo the manual labour of writing all the labels ? — Yes, I wrote the whole myself. 2591. When you say you have been obliged to write the labels yourself, will you state to the Committee whether you have preferred to write the labels, or whe- ther you have ever asked for assistance and have been refused ?— No ; it was quite voluntary. 2592. You have not asked for assistance, and therefore you have not been refused ? — No. 2593. Then the Committee are not to understand, when you use the term " obliged to write the labels," that you have been obliged to do it from the want of assistance, which has been asked for on your part, and refused ? — No. 2594. Have you ever been present at any of the visitations of the Trustees ? — Yes, every year. 2595- Were they ever acquainted with the fact that you wrote the labels ? — I suppose not ; I did not tell them. 2596. Did they ever, make any special inquiry as to the person who arranged the minerals and wrote the labels ? — No. ' 2597. Did you make any representation to them personally, during any of those ■visitations, as to the labours of your department ?-^No ; there is no opportunity of making any representation upon these visitations ; it is merely walking through ; at least, I never thought of taking that opportunity of speaking to any individual Trustee on the subject. I did not complain ; I saw no hardship in it ; but while : I was doing that I could not perform other duties. ■ 2598.* Must not the keeper of the Mineral department describe in some way or other the particular specimens in each case ? — Certainly. 2599. If ^^ must describe them, must he not either describe them on paper or direct some one else to describe them ? — Yes. 2600. The answer that you have given to the question that has just been put to you, is founded on the assumption that the assistant that might be granted to you would not be a competent and well-informed assistant, but a mere clerk or amanuensis ? — I never applied for any assistance, I thought it might not be granted. 2601. If, in point of fact, you had a superior assistant, who was tolerably acquainted with mineralogy and geology, would he not be of material assistance to you in arranging the minerals ? — No doubt ; but I never had any person to assist me in any manner whatever, except two men who did quite the menial work. I do not consider writing as menial Work, and I do it with the greatest pleasure ; I have no more objectioh to write the tickets than I would if the collection were my own. 2602. Is much of your time employed in inferior offices which in your opinion might be more advantageously employed in performing higher duties ? — I cer- tainly should prefer being able to devote my time chiefly to the superintendence of my department, and leave inferior occupations for time not otherwise occupied. 2603. That is, if you were not employed in matters of detail, which you think might be very conveniently entrusted to inferior hands ? — Part of it, probably. 2604. There is an annual visitation, I believe ? — Yes, at the first meeting in May. 2605. Who, in point of fact, visits and examines the minerals under your charge ? — ^The Trustees go up into the rooms ; they do not go in a body ; they walk through, as many as choose. They do not stay long. 2606. Previously to the Trustees coming round, do you make any reports as to the efficiency or non-efficiency of your collections ? — That is the subject of every monthly report, and in general it is recapitulated in the annual report for the visitation. 2607. To take this year, for example ; did you make any general report pre- vious to the 1st of May, on the state of your collection? — No, not on that occasion. , 47g, BBS 2608. Did 190 MIISUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE CharUs Konig, 2608. Did you last year ?— I suppose last year I did ; but I generally repeat Esq. what has been said in the monthly report. What I have to say is only a recapitu- ' lation of what I have said in the monthly reports. 20 July 1835. 2609. We understand the chief librarian is the person who is responsible to the Trustees for the correctness of the reports ? — Yes. 2610. Did you make this year any report upon which he could certify to the Trustees that your collection was in a proper state ? — I cannot charge my memory exactly with what I said. The form is : " Mr. Konig has the honour of acquainting the Trustees, that since the last visitation he has performed" such and such duties. I have nothing else to say. 2611. The question refers to what is done before the Trustees come round; do you make any regular report to the principal librarian as to whether your minerals are in a good or bad state ? — I have never done so, because in the monthly report • the subject has been exhausted. 2612. You have stated that you have under your care the collections of zoology and natural history, as well as the department of minerals ? — Yes. 2613. And you are understood to say that, you had been unable to turn your attention so much to the subject of zoology as you could have wished, in conse- quence of the quantity you have to do in reference to the Mineralogical depart- ment ? — I said, so, in a great measure. I am not sorry to be prevented from enter- ing into zoological details, because mineralogy and the secondary fossils are and have for some time past been my principal occupation ; but at the same time I never waived my right to control those under me in the Zoological branch of my department. Dr. Leach was one of the first zoologists in the country ; I left almost the whole to him, but he was rather unmanageable in some things, and I had a great deal to do to keep him in order. 26 1 4. Are you not of opinion that there is a sufficient labour for one individual properly qualified to superintend the Mineralogical department, exclusive of the zoology ? — Yes, certainly; but at the same it does not exclude, in my opinion, the superintendence of the whole of the department. You may devote the greater part of your time to a particular branch of natural history, without giving up the direction of the whole. If I have assistants to attend to the zoology, while I am occupied with the minerals, I can still superintend the whole of the department. Arranging objects of natural history requires a great deal of consideration. The correspondence in which it involves me, the attending to applications, and many other avocations connected with the department, continually draw me from my occupations. 2615. You would be anxious, if you had your choice, to give your undivided- • attention to the Geological and Mineralogical departments ? — ^I should not like to renounce, of my own accord, the right of directing the whole department. 2616. I think you stated, that though you did not always make annual reports, you made monthly reports ? — Yes. 2617. To whom were these monthly reports made.'' — To the Committee of Trus- tees, who report them at general meetings. 26 1 8. Does that committee take any pains to ascertain that your report is correct ? — There are sub-committees appointed for every department. 26 1 9. Do they examine your department ? — Not regularly. 2620. Have they done it in the course of the last year in such a way as to ascer- tain that your report is a correct one ? — No, certainly not ; they never think of that. 2621. Will you inform the Committee how many assistants you have, and their names ? — The assistant is Mr. Children ; Mr. Samouelle was next appointed as extra assistant for the branch of entomology ; after that, Mr. Gray, the elder, was ap- pointed, and then Mr. George Gray. 2622. Are these gentlemen the only assistants you haver — There are no others. • 2623. These gentlemen are the assistants you have under you as keeper of the Natural History department ? — Yes. 2624. Is not each of these gentlemen sufficiently occupied in his own de- partment, and so much so as to be unable to render you any assistance in that which you more immediately superintend ? — Yes. 2625. Does Mr. Children render you anya sistance in arranging the minerals ? —No. ■ ^626. Does Mr. Samouelle ? — No. 2627. Does SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 191 2627. Does Mr. Gray or Mr. George Gray ? — No. Charles Kmig, 2628. They are all, in point of fact, wholly occupied in looking after the details ^""l- of their own departments ? — They are sufficiently occupied, and I never applied to them for assistance. It is at my option to take which branch I please. When first ^° ^^ ''^" I came to the Museum, I knew very little of mineralogy ; botany was my favourite occupation ; but as Dr. Shaw took the branch of zoology, I applied myself as dili- gently as I could to mineralogy ; and when Dr. Leach, my assistant, became unable to exert himself, I then again took part of the zoology to myself. I re-arranged the collection of British birds, and re-named them, writing every ticket myself. I wrote the names in four languages on every ticket, which are now again destroyed. My time has been frittered away in that manner since I have been in the Museum. A great deal of my time has been employed to no advantage ; for often before an arrangement has been completed, it has been entirely broken up again. 2629. You consider Mr. Children entirely responsible for the Zoological depart- ment, do you not ? — I cannot say that I do ; I consider myself responsible. 2630. Do you exercise any control in that department ?— I exercise as little as possible ; but theite can be no doubt that Mr. Children would attend to what I might urge as necessary to be performed. 2631. Technically speaking, you are head of the department, and he is your assistant ; but practically speaking, he does direct and control all the details of the Zoological department? — Yes. 2632. Have you ever heard any complaints made as to the scientific arrange- ment and classification of that department ? — There have been complaints made Inspecting the nomenclature, respecting the new names introduced, and respecting the mode of classing the diflferent objects ; but that is matter of opinion, there are as many in favour of it as against it. 2633. What is your opinion as to the arrangement and nomenclature that has been adopted ? — In my opinion, the new names should be combined with the old, and the popular names especially retained, so that the visitors at large, the gene- rality of them of course consisting of persons who are not proficient in natural history, should be able to form an idea of the nature of the objects they have before them. 2634. Then will you inform the Committee why you have not exercised that authority, as bead of the Natural History department, in respect of the arrange- ment of the zoology, which you conceive not to be so desirable as you could wish ? —Because it is frequently merely a matter of opinion, some defend what others bkme. 2635. Do you consider yourself the responsible person for that arrangement ? — I consider myself so far responsible, that in the case of any great apparent incorrect- ness, I should certainly interfere. 2636. Will you inform the Committee whether any scientific man examines the monthly reports, to your knowledge ? — No, there are no particular Trustees ap- pointed for that purpose. 2637. Are you aware whether any Trustee is capable of forming an opinion as to the value or arrangement of the zoological collection ? — No, certainly not. 2638. Have you at present under your care a collection of organic fossil remains purchased by the Museum of Mr. Hawkins?— I have. 2639. Have you carefully examined that collection with reference to its genuine- ness and value ? — I have, since its purchase ; I am well acquainted with it now. 2640. Are not part of the Saurian remains composed of plaster and part of fossil substances? — Yes, one specimen in particular was made up to a considerable degree, which alarmed me. 2641. Were you consulted before that purchase was made, as to the propriety or utility of purchasing it ? — Mr. Hawkins applied first to Dr.' Buckland, and Dr. Buckland spoke to me. I of course recommended it, as I would recommend any addition to the Museum, anything that would add to our collection. 2642. Had you then examined the collection when you gave that opinion ? — No, I did not see the necessity for that. 264.3. What sort of recommendation did you give ; was it a recommendation in writing, or a. verbal recommendation? — If I remember right, Mr. Hawkins wrote a note to me, in which he said, in case I should consider his collection desirable to be acquired, he could inform me that Dr. Buckland was of the same opinion, and he wished to recommend it, or something to that effect. 479. B B 4 2644. Did 192 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charles Kdnig, 2644. Did you make any report to the Trustees with respect to that collection E^l- being to be purchased ? — No, ~ ~ 2645. When you say you recommended that collection, as you would any col? 20 July 1835. lection that would do honour to the Museum, are the Committee to understand that that recommendation was founded on any previous inquiry or not ?^- It certainly did not amount to a recommendation. If I was asked, " Should that collection be purchased?" I no doubt Said " Yes;" but that does not amount to a recommendation. 2646. Did the Trustees consult you as to the value or utility of the collection ? — No, certainly not. 2647. When you returned an answer to Mr. Hawkins, had you seen his collec: tion, or were you acquainted with it by any other means ? — I had only partly seen it at the Saloon in Adelaide-street. 2648. Had Mr. Hawkins at that time published his lithographic print, illustrat- ing his collection? — Not at that time ; it appeared soon after. 2649. I^^^ t^'^* lithographic print appear before the purchase was concluded ? — Yes. 2650. Then you inspected that print' before the purchase was concluded ? — To the best of my recollection it was contemporaneous ; the book was published at the same time the purchase was made, and I neither read the book, nor did I know anything of the purchase, except that two gentlemen were appointed (Dr. Buck- land and Mr. Mantell) who were to make the valuation, but to what decision thev came I knew not till late, indeed not until the subject was before the Trustees. 2651. But you had seen the collection, so as to be able to form an opinion that -■ it was a desirable one to have, if you could get it on good terms ? — Yes, any addi- tion would be desirable, but I did not give my opinion as to the value. 2652. The question -referred, not to the money value, but to the scientific value ; in point of fact, did you state to the Trustees, or any of the officers, that you thought this would add to the scientific value of the other collections in the Museum ? — There is no collection absolutely valueless ; every collection is of some value. 2653. The only question in your mind was as to the money value that might be asked for such a collection ? — Undoubtedly. 2654. The intrinsic value being assumed, that is to say, the collection not being valueless ? — Yes. 2655. Then the only question would be, what is the money value attached to such a collection ? — Yes. 2656. Are you still of opinion that Mr. Hawkins's collection is advantageous to the Museum ? — Yes. 2657. It contains specimens that you had not before ? — Yes. 2658. Will you inform the Committee when you were first made acquainted with the collection of Mr. Hawkins being for sale ?■ — I am not prepared to state at present, but I can furnish the Committee with the date on a future ^occasion. 2659. On hearing that Mr. Hawkins's collection was for sale, and considering, from its bearing a good reputation in the world, that it was desirable the Museum should possess it, what steps did you take ? — None at all. 2660. When were you called upon to do any act in relation to this collection, as keeper of the Natural History department ? — I think when the whole was settled ; when it was actually purchased. 2661. Do you know who made the offer to the Trustees ? — Dr. Buckland did. 2662. Do you know what the Trustees did upon that offer being made to them ? — They appointed two gentlemen, to examine into the state of the collection, and into the money value of it. 2663. Were you one of the gentlemen who were appointed ? — No. 2664. Will you inform the Committee why you, as keeper of that department in which the collection was to be placed, were not chosen as one of the persons to value on the part of the Museum ? — I cannot say. 2665. Have you any means of forming an opinion as to the reason that prevented the Trustees appointing their own principal officers } — No, unless it was from deli- cacy to Dr. Buckland. 2666. Then, in point of fact, the Committee are to understand that the offer was made, and the purchase completed by the Trustees, through the person the Trustees appointed, without your official sanction or concurrence ? — Certainly without my interference. I was before the Trustees, and I stated if I had the sum SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 193 sum of 1,300/. to lay out, it was a question whether I would expend it in that Charles Kmig, manner. As to objecting to the purchase, if the price had been 30,000 I. I should ^^l- not have done so. 2667. If you had 1,300?. at your disposal, as curator of that department, should ^° "^"^^ '^3^' you have employed it in the purchase of that collection ? — I think not ; but I may be censurable for that, for others might say I ought so to have laid it out. 2668. Do you conceive that better persons could be selected, from their know- ledge of geology and comparative anatomy, and their reputation in the world, than Dr. Buckland and Mr. Mantell ?— I think not. 2669. Could the Trustees have exercised a sounder discretion than by putting their judgment into the hands of the two gentlemen named ? — 1 think not. 2670. Have you ever seen the report made by Dr. Buckland and Mr. Mantell 1 — No. 2671. Do you know whether they ever did make a report ? — They did. 2672. Do you know whether they personally inspected the Saurian remains, which were afterwards purchased for 1,300 1. ? — 1 take that for granted ; I have not heard so, but it must be the case. 2673. When was it first discovered that some of these fossil skeletons were arti- ficial, and not entirely genuine ? — I discovered it when the large specimen was put up, after the case was finished. I had no opportunity to examine it sooner, 2674. Had you been consulted, should you have thought it your duty to make a close examination before purchasing ? — Certainly. 2675. Do you know whether Dr. Buckland and Mr. Mantell ascertained that part was artificial ? — Dr. Buckland has said he knew it was artificial to a great extent. Had I been present, if Dr. Buckland had told me the specimen was not genuine, I should have considered it my duty to have examined more closely into it; but if Dr. Buckland and Mr. Mantell had said, " all this is genuine," I should perhaps, in deference to their superior knowledge, have given way, and fallen into what I consider the same mistake. 2676. You do not mean by that to imply anything affecting the moral character of Mr. Hawkins the vender, or Dr. Buckland and Mr. Mantell, the parties on whose recommendation the purchase was made, the Trustees as the purchasers, or any of the ofiicers of the Museum P^Certainly not. It could only affect the cha- racter of the person who made the reparation, if he had endeavoured to conceal the restoration. If I had been told the specimen was genuine, I might myself have given credit to the assertion. , 2677. After the circumstance became known, did you make any report to the Trustees ? — I first wrote to Dr. Buckland and Mr. Mantell, informing them of the discovery I had made. I have a copy of that letter, which 1 can produce ; and I afterwards thought it my duty to report the fact to the Trustees, and that report is also in existence. 2678. Can you produce a copy of that report ? — I have no copy, but the report itself can be produced. \^Mr. Forshall, the Secretary of the British Museum, was requested to produce the Report alluded to, and all other Papers in his custody connected with the purchase of Mr. Hawkins's Fossil Remains, on a future day. — See Appen- dix, No. 28.] 2679. What was the date of that report? — I cannot charge my memory. 2680. Have you had opportunities of examining large collections of Saurian remains from the lias formation ? — I have seen most of the large collections. 2681. You are aware that it is a very tender and friable formation in which the bones are found ? — Yes. 2682. Do you think, from the opportunity you have had of examining other col- lections, that the specimens of Mr. Hawkins are restored in a greater degree than is generally the case ? — That is my impression. 2683. In selling such articles, is it not usual and fair to specify the artificial reparations that have been made ? — I should have done so. 2684. Were these specimens sold to the Museum as perfect specimens of Saurian remains?— ~I do not know ; I have not seen the report. 2685. You received them as perfect remains?--! received them merely as remains. 2686. Had you any reason to believe, when you received them, and previous to your examination, that any portion was artificial? — I never gave it a'thought. As soon as I examined theur, I was sure of it ; but not till then. Restorations were 470. c c acknovyledged 194 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charles Kimig, acknowledged by Mr. Hawkins in his publication, such as the restoration of the ^q- right paddle. 7"; r~ 2687. Were the whole of the restorations marked in the plate you have alluded 20 July ,835. to?-No. 2688. In that plate was the tail of the specimen introduced ?— No. When I began to compare the specimens with the plates, I found the Ichthyosaurus, plate 4, was wanting, which is one of the most interesting specimens, having the scapulae in their proper situation. I was alarmed at it, and wrote to Mr. Forshall, who informed me the specimen had been sold by Mr. Hawkins ; but another had been substituted, and that specimen turned out to be the worst of all in point of restoration. 2689. What authority have you for stating that? — The specimen was sold before the purchase by the Museum was made. Had the price been less, this would not much signify. 2690. In the present state of these remains, do you consider them worth the price that was given for them ? —That is a question I am not able to answer. 2691. Is it or is it not generally the custom, or is it not indispensable, that remains from the has formation of any size, should be embedded in plaster for the purpose of preserving them ? — Yes, I think so. 2692. Do you recollect the sum given by one individual for one of the spe- cimens of this class found in the same lias formation ? — Yes. 2693. What is the largest sum of which you have ever heard as given for a single specimen? — I have heard that one individual paid 100/. or 100 guineas. That was one of the best specimens of the Plesiosaurus. The same sum was given for another by the Trustees. 2694. Have you any collections of geological specimens relating to each county in England, separately ? — No, there never has been a collection of that kind in the Museum. 2695. So that if a foreigner or a stranger came there, he would have no oppor- tunity of ascertaining, from the collections in the Museum, what is the geological formation of each district? — Not now. 2696. Is it desirable that there should be such a collection ? — Very much so ; it is indispensably necessary. 2697. You have informed us who has the care of the zoological specimens, and also of the insects ; who has the care of the ichthyological collection ? — The ichthyological collection, in the first place, is a very miserable collection. It is arranged, but the species are not all named. My colleague will come to them when other parts are finished ; there is a great deal to be done. 2698. Who Is immediately employed In taking care of that collection ? — I should be answerable for It, as head of the department. 2699. Who is the assistant to whom your superintendence Is deputed immedi- ately, in reference to that collection ? — I think Mr. Gray once began them ; several were previously named. 2700. Are there any ichthyological specimens which have never been exhibited ? — I am hardly at present able to state. Formerly there were many, but they are now exhibited. 2701 . Do you remember a visit made to the Museum by the Baron Cuvier? — I do. 2702. Was he shown all the specimens of the ichthyological collection? — Yes; if he missed seeing any they were not intentionally withheld from his examination. I know he applied to the Trustees to be allowed the loan of some of them to Paris which they refused. 2703. You do not know the fact of his not having had an opportunity of inspect- ing certain specimens In the ichthyological collection ? — I do not know that as a fact. 2704. Did you go round with him? — Yes, he was frequently at the Museum, 2705. When you use the phrase " a very miserable collection," will you state to the Committee by what standard you compare the collection in the British Museum ? — With that of Paris, in the first instance, and also with that of Berlin. When I say " miserable," I mean in regard to numbers ; it takes up a wall like the wall of this room ; the specimens are dried, and in bottles. Perhaps I should not have said "miserable." 2706. You used the phrase " miserable collection," " very miserable collection," repeating the phrase, and drawing the attention of the Committee to the subject ; the Committee therefore wish to know by what standard you compare the collec- tion in the British Museum? — I am sorry I used that expression, because I am not prepared to state what is its strength in a numerical point of view, but it is a small collection. 2707. Who SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 195 2707. Who has the care of the shells ? — Mr. Children commenced the arrange- CharkrKmig, ment, and afterwards Mr. Gray continued it. The arrangement as to the naming ^H- is not yet completed, but the two Messrs. Gray at present are more particularly engaged with the shells. * ^° J"^y ^'^33. 2708. At present' they are not all arranged or named r — They are not all arranged or named. It is a large collection, and it is rather difficult in many cases to determine species and varieties ; it is not in all cases easy to know whether or not you have affixed the right specific name to a particular specimen. 2709. Accopding to what system are they arranged ? — According to the system of Lamarck. 2710. Is the nomenclature strictly according to Lamarck? — With very slight deviations from it. 2711. Are the deviations indicated by the labels? — No, they are not indicated by the labels. 2712. Who takes upon himself then to deviate, when it professes to be an arrangement according to a particular system ? — Undoubtedly there is a sort of anarchy among naturalists, who are ambitious to affix their own names, and to make almost every species into a new genus. That circumstance leads to great inconve- nience ; but on the other hand it may be said, that since the natural history of the animals inhabiting the shells has become so much better known, it is quite impossi- ble to retain the old system, which merely considers the external form of the shell, which is of course less essential, and often leads to a most anomalous arrangement, juxta-position, and nomenclature, no longer tolerated, the animal being known. 2713. Is the Committee to understand that this anarchical spirit has invaded the peaceful regions of the British Museum ? — I think something might be done to put it on a different footing. 2714. Are you consulted when any variations are made in the system of nomen- clature which is professedly adopted ? — It is hardly possible to do so ; such ques- tions might involve me in a long dispute, which it might be difficult to get out of. 2715. Is it not the case that many new species and new genera have been dis- covered since Lamarck wrote ? — Certainly. 2716. But confining the specimens entirely to such specimens as existed in the time of Lamarck, is his nomenclature adhered to throughout the arrangement ? — No, certainly not. « 2717. Then the "arrangement, in point of fact, is according to the arbitrary notions of the individual who superintends it under your control ? — I should cer- tainly object in cases where I observed anything very objectionable ; but others have studied some of the families of shells more intimately ; and I should not like to exercise that autliority in common cases. 2718. Are they uniformly labelled, and so disposed and exhibited that they may be conveniently seen by the public ?■ — The tickets, as far as they are affixed, seem to be in a convenient position for that purpose. 2719. Is there a good collection of British fresh- water shells? — There is a very good collection. 2720. Is there a good collection of fossil shells? — A very good collection. 2721. Are they all arranged and kept separate ? — They are arranged and kept separate. The whole of the fossil shells I arranged and named myself 2722. The shells which more particularly concern geology you have taken parti- cular care of yourself? — Yes, not only the univalve but also the bivalve fossil shells ; but part has been broken up, from the change in the building. They are not now arranged, but dispersed in cabinets, from the difficulty of exhibiting them in the gallery in its present state. 2723. Are there not many specimens of shells exhibited without any name or arrangement whatever ?— Yes, a great portion, 2724. Will you state to the Committee the reason for such want of arrangement? — I several times remonstrated on the subject with Mr. Gray, who has the imme- diate care of the shells, and he told me he did what he could. 2725. What time does Mr. Gray expend in the arrangement of the collection under his care ? — He is there every day, except Saturday, from ten to four. 2726. Is the whole of that time devoted to the labelling and arrangement of the shells ?— No ; he has the care of s,everal other objects of zoology. , . . 2727. Then is the arrangement of the shells in progress or not? — Yes, it is m c c 2 progress j 196 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charhi Konig, progress ; and last week I saw that Mr. George Gray had affixed at least 30 or 40 Esq. tickets. ' J • 1 2728. But it is proceeding very slowly?— Certainly it might proceed quicker, 30 July 1835. I imagine. . ■ r, 2729. It requires a good deal of study, does it not ?— Certainly ; it is not like making an inventory of generally known things ; it requires great intimacy with the subject to know whether a shell is a species or only a variety, which in many cases it is very diflBcult to determine. 2730. With respect to the insects, are they arranged and named according to the most approved system ?— There is only one table which gives an outline of the families in general ; the rest are in drawers, and Mr. Samouelle has the care of them, and catalogues them, I should think, as quickly as he can. He has other avocations relating to that branch of the department, showing the collections to visitors, and so on. 2731. Is there not a Collection of Insects which is kept in a private room?— The bulk of the collection is kept there ; almost the whole collection is kept in a private room, and must of necessity be kept in that manner, because the exposure to the light would spoil almost all insects. 2732. Is that collection under any particular restrictions as regards the exhibi- tion of it to the public r — It is so far under restriction, that two days in the week are set apart, upon which any one who applies to Mr. Samouelle may see it. I sup- pose Mr. Samouelle makes no difficulty in doing so at any other time, when he has no other engagement. 2733. Can you state whether there are any particular rules laid down with regard to the admission to that room ? — The rule is, that application should be made to the keeper. At page 31 of the Synopsis, there is a note which explains the mode of admission ; it says, " The principal collections of Crustacea, Spiders and Insects, are preserved in proper cabinets in a separate room, and may be seen by persons who wish to consult them for the purpose of study, by application to the officer to whom their care is entrusted, every Tuesday and Thursday. In order to prevent disappointment, it is requested that individuals, or parties wishing to see those collections, will apply two days previous to their intended visit, as only a cer- tain number of persons can be admitted at the same time." 2734. Can you state the number of specimens contained in the cabinets of the Museum ? — I am not prepared to state the number at present, but I will do so on a future occasion. 2735- Do you consider they are satisfactorily arranged 'and named? — -Yes, I should think they were. 2736. Is there any general catalogue of objects in the Natural History depart- ment ? — No, not a general catalogue ; there is an old catalogue, which does not apply any longer to the various collections. 2737. There is no catalogue of the Natural History department similar to that which you have formed of the minerals and fossil remains ? — I have not formed a catalogue of the minerals, I have begun it, but I have not been able to go on with it ; I made a catalogue of the small old collection ; of the new collection, after the re-arrangement according to a new system, the catalogue was begun by me. 2738. As principalof the Natural History department, are you perfectly satisfied with the arrangement and disposition of the Insects ? — Very little money has been expended on that collection, and therefore it is not in such a state as it might be : that of Berlin is ten times richer. 2739' Can you state what is the amount of the annual expenditure upon ento- mology ? — There is no particular sum allotted ; no particular portion of the grant for natural history is devoted to entomology. It is just as opportunities offer, of which, perhaps, we have not availed ourselves so frequently as we ought ; the sum being so exceedingly small, the collection cannot be expected to be in a better state than it is. 2740. Can you at all inform the Committee, on reference to the accounts, what has been the average annual outlay upon the Entomological department of the Museum? — I will ascertain that, and inform the Committee; but I should think not 10 1, a year upon an average. I can specify the sum exactly, by referring to the accounts. In fact, no proportion of the sura annually granted by Parliament has been adhered to, or has been endeavoured to be established, for the exigencies of the different branches of the Natural History department. 2741. Have SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 197 2741. Have any great additions been made to the entomological collection of Charles Konig., late ? — No, nothing of any importance. ^*1* 2742. What is your opinion of it as a collection, as compared with any other T". ~~ <:ollection with which you are acquainted ; taking that in Paris for instance ? — It is ^° " ^ ' ^^^' inferior to those collections ; especially to that at Berlin, which is the most exten- sive collection I know of. I suppose it is at least ten times larger than that at the British Museum ; but properly managed, and with a certain sum allowed annually, say 50 /. for a succession of years, ours might be made a first-rate collection, with the means we have in this country ; not to mention the presents, the number of which Would no doubt 'increase, were the collection as good as it might be. 2743. Is the entomological collection, which was left by Sir Hans Sloane, in a perfect state at present 1 — There is hardly anything remaining of it. 2744. How does it happen that that collection has been lost ? — When I came to the Museum most of those objects were in an advanced state of decomposition, and they were buried and committed to the flames one after another ; Dr. Shaw had a burning every year ; he called them his cremations. 2745. In the time of Sir Hans Sloane, the art of preserving birds was compara- tively in its infancy ? — Yes ; that is the principal reason of their decay. At present the means adopted ensure their preservation for a considerable number of years, 2746. But when it is stated that the collection of Sir Hans Sloane is completely gone, of course the answer must apply only to such objects as are in their nature of . a perishable quality ? — Yes ; and the bulk of them were of that description. 2747. Had not Sir Hans Sloane many articles of virtu ? — Yes, there were a great Climber. 2748. Is it meant that the Committee should understand that those articles have perished ? — Nothing has perished that was in my department. 2749. You are aware that a synopsis of the Sloane collection has been published, are you not? — Yes. 2750. Comparing that with the existing collection, is the Committee to under- stand that the defalcation is very great ? — Certainly. 2751. Do you attribute that defalcation to the inevitable decay of the specimens, or the want of care and attention subsequent to the time when the donations were made to the Museum ? — I should think chiefly to the natural decay ; nothing of ' that perishable nature endures long. The art of stuffing birds was very imperfectly understood at that time. 2752. The question rather applies to this : whether you believe there has been any want of proper*care and attention at the Museum, in consequence of which the collection has been injured and diminished? — I think more care might have been taken ; many specimens might have been preserved. 2753. Is there one single insect remaining of the 5,394, which were presented by Sir Hans Sloane? — 1 should think not. 2754. Do you think that so great a destruction of specimens can solely arise from natural causes ? — Sir Hans Sloane had a method of keeping his insects which was very injurious to them. He squeezed them between two laminae of mica, which destroyed the specimen in most cases, even the wings of the butterfly. A few specimens of these insects remained, and were considered as rubbish, and as such destroyed, with other rubbish. 2755. Was this destruction wholly complete before you became keeper of the Natural History department ? — I remember Dr. Shaw's burying and burning zoolo- gical rubbish ; and I also remember that some persons in the neighbourhood com- plained, and threatened with an action, because they thought the moths were introduced into their houses by the cremations in the. Museum garden. 2756. Did you make any representations to the Trustees on the subject? — No, that was not my province at all ; I was Dr. Shaw's assistant. 2757. I suppose that collection was not very valuable at first, in consequence of the method Sir Hans Sloane had of preserving them ? — No, it was not. 2758. At the time it was presented to the Museum it was considered, was it not, a very valuable and interesting collection ? — Yes, I suppose so, from the price that was given for the whole. 2759- Was there any collection at that time in England that was equal to it ? — I should think not ; we had very few collections at that time; it was most pro- bably the best collection at that time. 2760. At the present moment, is sufficient care taken in stoving the skins of c c 3 " quadrupeds igS MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charles Kdnig, quadrupeds in which insects appear, and in impregnating the skins and fur with Esq. proper preparations, so as to prevent decay ? — ^Yes, that is done at present. 2761. Is it done effectually? — Yes, it answers the purpose very well. 20 July 1835. 2762. It has been stated in some of the periodicals of the day, that there is a continual destruction going on in some of the existing specimens ; will you inform the Committee whether that be so or not ? — If it be, it is not observable at present ; the mode adopted seems to prevent it. 2763. Do you consider that the stoving at the present moment is so carefully done as to afford a comparative security against the destruction by moths and other insects ? — There is very little opportunity of stoving them, as there is only one place in the building which would answer that purpose, the basement story of the Gallery of Antiquities ; but I suppose, if it should be thought requisite, a part of the basement story of the new building might be devoted to it. 2764. How many specimens are now remaining of Sir Joseph Banks's collection of birds ? — I should think there are none remaining. 2765. Are you aware of any presentation of specimens, which had been unex- amined, to the College of Surgeons ? — I am aware of the circumstance that they were transferred, but whether or not they were previously examined, is a question I cannot answer ; they might have been examined without my knowledge. 2766. Will you state to the Committee what you know of that circumstance? — 1 know there was a considerable number of bottles which contained birds, partly in spirits of wine and partly dry, consisting of skins merely ; they were transferred at . that time with other objects, chiefly of comparative anatomy, to the College of Surgeons, and among these birds were certainly some which had no business at the College of Surgeons ; but they wished to have the bottles, otherwise they would probably not have taken them ; the bottles were of some value to them. 2767. Is the Committee to understand that the bottles were considered the most valuable part of the collection ? — The bottles were valuable to them ; I do not know what portion of the value of the whole. 2768. Were any of these specimens subsequently sold by public auction ? — There were some sold at Mr. Bullock's sale, but it is very difficult to ascertain how many ; whether only a few or the greater part of them were transferred, I have never been able to ascertain. Mercurii, 22' die Julii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Mr. George Clowes, called in ; and Examined. Mr. 2769. I BELIEVE you are one of the firm of Messrs. Clowes, one of the most George Cloues. extensive printers in London ? — Yes. ""Y" ~~ 2770. I believe I may say you are the most extensive printers in the world? — u y 1 35" J belive we are, certainly one of the most extensive. 2771 . Have you had your attention called to the Synopsis of the British Museum ? — Yes, I have looked over it. 2772. Can you inform the Committee at what price you could print the Synop- sis in all respects like that in your hand, and at what price it could be sold to the public ?^ — I have made an estimate for printing it exactly in the same form in which it has been hitherto done. I think that 5,000 copies may be printed, including everything, folding, stitching and paper, for about 14 d. per copy. The price at which it could be sold to the public, depends upon the agreement made between the Trustees and the bookseller ; 10,000 copies in the same form would cost about 13 art ; the Trustees of lisq- late, though I have wished them to do more, have done a great deal for that branch . of the department. 2'i Jiilv 1835. 2833. Will you give a general description of these minerals which were pur- chased ?-^Some of the most valuable specimens in the possession of Mr. Heuland, who is selling off his great collection, which contains a number of perfectly unique objects, which should not be lost to the country or to the British Museum, but which certainly will be if they are not purchased while they are to be had. I was in hopes that the Trustees would apply to Parliament for a special grant for that purpose ; say 3,000 /. or 4,000/. 2834. Do you consider, as head of the Natural History department, that the sura applied to the purchase of objects in your department is a liberal allowance ? — I should think not ; I speak of course with reference to a national institution like the British Museum, belonging to the first nation in the world. 2835. Are you at all limited in the sum you have to expend upon objects of natural history ? — Undoubtedly. 2836. The question the Committee put is this : Is there any annual limit to the sum that may be expended in the purchase of articles for your department, beyond which limit no expenditure can under any circumstances be made ; or is it at the discretion of the Trustees, on your recommendation of any given article, to purchase it or not ? — In general I report to the Trustees any specific offer that is made, or any specific purchase I wish to make. 2837. But are the Committee to understand that there is, or there is not, a necessary limit in the estimate of any given year, beyond which, under no circum- stances, can the expenditure of your department be carried ? — Certainly ; on pro- posing a purchase, I have at the same time to report the state of the natural his- tory fund, of the residue, and the Trustees are guided by that. 2838. In order that the Committee may understand the state of the case accu- rately, will you state to the Committee whether, in the event of any specific col- lection being offered for sale, you would be precluded by the rules of the Institu- tion from recommending, and the Trustees would be precluded by their own rules from sanctioning, the purchase of any such collections ? — No, certainly not ; 1 should recommend it, in the hope that the Trustees would apply to Parliament or to the Treasury for a special grant. 2839. In other words, then, are the Committee to understand that there is no limit imposed in the purchase of any collection that may be considered desirable ? — I should think no Hmit. 2840. Are you aware of the existence of a valuable museum which has been formed within the metropolis by naval and military men by their own exertions .'' — I am. 2841. Are you of opinion that the Government might, through the various means in their power, both diplomatic and military, obtain valuable specimens for the British Museum from all parts of the world ? — I am decidedly of that opinion. 2842. Are you aware that there is a museum of some extent at the Haslar Hospital, in Portsmouth ? — I am acquainted with the circumstance, but I have not seen that museum. 2843. Are you aware that there is a regulation in the naval service, which re- quires ofl&cers on their return home to surrender such specimens as they may have collected abroad? — Such a regulation, I hear, has been resorted to. 2844. Do you not think it would be expedient that such a regulation should be so far altered as to enable the Trustees of the British Museum to select valuable specimens of what by that regulation is considered as public property ? — Certainly, if that could be done. 2845. Have you ever examined the museum attached to Haslar Hospital? — No, I have not. 2846. You are not aware that there are duplicates of various objects of natural history there ? — I am not ; it is very likely. 2847. Now, in reference to officers employed in voyages of discovery and sur- veys, have they from time to time ever presented such objects as they have col- lected in the course of the discharge of their public duties to the British Museum ? — Yes, the Admiralty has, but not many objects relative to zoology. We have some very interesting rock specimens, collected during the expeditions of Captains Rossj Parry, Francklin, Tuckey, Clapperton and others. 2848. Do SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 203 ' 2848. Do you think it would be advisable that you, as head of that department, Charles Kbnig,^ should examine for instance the collection which is at Haslar Hospital, with a view ^^q' to report to the Trustees the state of that collection and its value, in order that representations might be made to the Government, for the appropriation of such '^^ """'y ''^35- valuable specimens as it might contain to the British Museum ? — I suppose the Trustees would have no objection to such a measure. 2849. You think it desirable that such an inquiry should be instituted r— I think it desirable to obtain every thing relative to natural history that can be obtained by such means. 2850. Was the whole of Captain Parry's collection presented to the Museum ? — No, I think not. I do not know what became of it. I suppose the animals went to the Zoological Society. 2851. Do you know under whose authority they went to the Zoological So- ciety ? — I should think under that of the Admiralty. 2852. Then in that case, supposing you to be correct, the Admiralty themselves presented the specimens collected by Captain Parry, to the private collection of the" Zoological Society ? — Yes ; but there are some of them at the Museum. ^^53- Have not naturalists been sent out by Government on voyages of dis- covery, and on surveys ? — I am sorry to say that has not been often the case ; at least, not professed naturalists. The commanders themselves sometimes happen to have some knowledge of natural history, or the medical men ; but naturalists have rarely been sent out for the sole purpose of collecting interesting objects relative to their science. 2854. Are any of the most eminent naturalists of the day officially connected with the British Museum in any capacity? — We have Mr. Bi^own, who is the greatest botanist in the world. 2855. Is there any other ? — Mr. Children's merits are very great. Mr. Chil- dren has done much for science ; he is also well versed in several branches of natural history. 2856. Do you consider Mr. Children an eminent naturalist, speaking of him as an assistant in your department? — I think he is a good zoologist. 2857. Mr. Brown, whose name you have mentioned, was, I believe, the libra- rian to Sir Joseph Banks? — He was. 2858. And became attached to the British Museum, through the legacy of Sir Joseph Banks? — Yes. It was optional in him to receive that appointment. 2859. His occupation and position in the Museum is quite independent of yourself? — It is : it is a department by itself 2860. He is merely responsible for the Banksian collection? — But the other botanical collection of the Museum will likewise be made over to him. This was decided at one of the last meetings of the Trustees. 2864. Did Lieutenant Beechey collect anything in the voyage that he was de- spatched upon ?— He did ; and we have several rock specimens and weapons, and such objects ; but I do not think any zoology; I am not quite certain. 2862. Do you at all know whether Dr. Richardson, who was also officially em- ployed, and who is an eminent naturalist, made any collection of natural history, arid whether any part of that was presented to the Museum ? — Yes ; that gentle- man accompanied Captain Francklin's expedition. We had several specimens of animals which he collected, but it was after the Zoological Society had had the pick- ing of them. 2863. Then is the Committee to understand that Government has, from time to time, presented the better specimens that have been collected by these naturalists and officers, to the Zoological Society ? — That is the impression on ray mind. 2864. Have the Trustees never thought it their duty to represent to the Go- vernment that the National Institution had the first claim? — There was always a want of space. The Trustees, I suppose, did not wish to be encumbered with objects for which they had no room. Till lately, all additions of that kind could not but be considered as an encumbrance ; this also applies to Mr. Burchell's col- lection of objects of zoology. 2865. Are there not a great variety of specimens at present in the British Mu- seum which are of a very inferior description ? — Yes, certainly ; but that could not be prevented ; it is very difficult to obtain the best specimens of every thing. 2866. But assuming that the Trustees had the selection of valuable specimens from these various collections alluded to, might they not beneficially take those 479. D D 2 . specimens 204 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE CAarlfs K&nig, specimens and remove inferior specimens from the collection at the British Museum .'' Esq. — Unquestionably, if they had the means of obtaining them. 2867. Have they ever made any inquiries of you with a view to improve the 22 July 1835. collection under your care ?— I do not remember to have been consulted upon that subject. 2868. In fact, it has never occurred to the Trustees to represent to Government the primary claims of the British Museum upon collections of officers and natural- ists who have been officially sent forth ? — ^I have no knowledge of their having done so. 2869. Have the answers lately given had reference to the present transition state of the Museum, or do they apply, generally speaking, to the conduct which it is presumed the Trustees will follow when the entire building shall have been com- pleted? — They can only relate to existing circumstances. 2870. Then, are the Trustees precluded, from the present state of the Museum,^ from doing that which you suppose they might otherwise be inclined to do ? — Cer- tainly. 2871. The arrangement of the minerals and fossils at present in the Long Gal- lery, I believe, was entirely accomplished by yourself and your attendants ? — Yes. 2872. And without the assistance of those gentlemen who are called assistants in your department ? — ^Tliey did not assist in that particular occupation. 2873. How long were you in completing that arranirement, as it now stands, in the Great Gallery? — I suppose four years; but my exertions were not confined to this occupation. 2874. Supposing the same labour and the same energy had been bestowed upon the zoological portions of the collection, might they not have been arranged in a very superior manner to what they now are ? — I do not suppose that any exer- tions could have produced a better state of things had they been directed to the zoology. I do not profess to have made that branch of natural history my particu- lar study, though I have had something to do with it. 2875. Whom do you consider immediately responsible for the arrangement and nomenclature of the ornithological collection ? — If by "responsible" is meant ac- countable to the Trustees for any avoidable defects in that branch of the department of natural history, I think Mr. Children would be the person, as he reports regularly upon his zoological occupations to the Trustees. 2876. What portion is immediately under the care and superintendence of Mr. Gray? — He is employed generally in occupations relative to zoology; he is sometimes occupied with the shells, sometimes with other mollusca, and so on ; indeed he assists generally ; precise subdivision of labour is not practicable. Mr. Children has been much engaged with the birds, in which he has also been assisted by Mr. Gray. 2877. What system is adopted in reference to the classification and nomencla- ture of the ornithological collection for which Mr. Children is responsible ? — The old nomenclature I suppose is almost entirely given up ; the new nomenclature is not generally approved of in this country ; but, as I said before, it is difficult to decide on such a question. 2878. Is any particular system adopted? — Temminck's system, and its nomen- clature generally, are adopted. 2879. Is it uniformly adopted or not? — You may say it is uniformly adopted; but if a naturalist chooses not to follow strictly and literally the system and nomen- clature of another, it is impossible to prevent it, indeed this would put a stop to all investigation. If he thinks he has good reasons to change a generic or specific name he has an undoubted right to do so, but that privilege has certainly been very much abused by systematic naturalists. 2880. Who is responsible for the composition of that portion of the Synopsis which in the marginal note is marked " Natural History " ? — I have not latterly attended to this duty ; I leave it to Mr. Children, who is not likely to let pass any great incorrectness in what is furnished either by himself or by Mr. Gray, and the other extra assistant. 2881. Are you responsible for the notes? In page 49 a nate is appended, in admiration of the Baron Cuvier ; on this passage, " Cuvier, by some oversight, says that this genus has no spurs, but the specimen in the British Museum shows them distinctly." The note is, " Independent of the admiration which the works of this great man must universally excite, Englishmen are bound to cherish and revere the SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 205 the memory of Ciivier as the foremost, as well as the most illustrious of modern Charles K'dnig, authors, to honour that of our own immortal Ray" ? — Mr. Children is responsible Esq^ for that. 2882. Do you permit your assistants to insert notes in the published Synopsis, ^"^ •'"'y ^®35- without your sanction ? — I did not wish to extend my control to Mr. Children's writing of the zoological part, nor do I consider myself personally responsible for his composition. The note is certainly superfluous. 2883. For what part of the Synopsis are you immediately and personally respon- sible ? — At any rate for the mineralogy, and what relates to the fossils. 2884. Would it not be desirable that each principal of the department should put his name to that portion of the Synopsis which describes the collection under his control ? — I think there would be objections to that. 2885. Do you not think it would lead to a more cautious and careful descrip- tion of the objects than exists at present in the Synopsis? — From motives of pru- dence one would not wish to have ones name so introduced. 2886. Did you advise the purchase of the collection of fossils which were pur- chased from Mr. Smith ? — The purchase was recommended by Sir Joseph Banks. I was consulted on the subject, and I did support Sir Joseph's recommendation. 2887. Did you consider the sum paid for them as above or below their value, or of the fair value ? — Indeed it was a fair remuneration, I should imagine. I do not rememjier the precise sum paid for the whole. Mr. Smith formed a supple- mentary collection, and received an additional sum, which afforded Parliament an op- portunity, in some measure, to reward his very meritorious exertions as a geologist. 2888. With reference to an accurate catalogue and description of the Natural History department of the British Museum, can you suggest to the Committee any improvements upon that vvhich is adopted in the Synopsis ? — I think the Synopsis might appear in rather a different form ; it should not attempt to set forth a system of natural history ; a popular work is what the generality of visitors require. That is my individual opinion. . 2889. Do you conceive that the Synopsis should be as popular a work as is con- sistent with the truth of science ? — Yes ; that is my meaning. 2890. That it should not be a strictly scientific work, but a popular work adapted for popular use ; but not inconsistent with the truth of science ? — Certainly. 289 1 . Should not the description of the collections in the British Museum be ac- curate, and agree perfectly with the descriptions given in the Synopsis '? — Certainly. 2892. Now, are all the orders in zoology distinguished in the collection in the Museum ? — Perhaps nearly as much as the space permits ; but being cramped for room, it is in'jpossible to give to each family and order the juxta-position in which they should appear. You must be governed by the space you have, which is very confined at present. 2,893. Is the Committee to understand that every class of which there is a spe- cimen, is named and distinguished in the collection? — I suppose so. ;, 2894. Then if the name of the class is omitted in the Synopsis, it would be desirable to correct that omission in future ? — Certainly. 2895. In page 106, it says, " the cases from No. Co, to No. 86, contain a different class of moUusca;" will you favour the Committee with the name of that different class of moUusca ? — Mr. Children will answer that. 2896. You find in point of fact that the class of which there are specimens, is not named in the Synopsis; is that so?— This part might be made much more accurate. 2897. Is that class named in the collection itself? — I suppose it is; it certainly should be distinctly expressed. 2898. Then regarding the Synopsis as a work calculated to give infoimation to the public, and supposing other instances of such omissions to be adduced, it must be considered as defective ? — I am myself of opinion that there is much room for improvement. 2899. How does it happen that a Synopsis like this, which is a mixture of popular and technical description, should be so long allowed to continue in its present state ? — I think it would more effectually answer the purpose for which it is intended, did it give a more concise exposition of the objects in the depart- ment of Natural History, one calculated for the great class of the unscientific who visit the Museum, and who are incapable or not desirous to follow all the details, of scientific, arrangement. 2900. Now, will you turn to page 97, at the bottom of which page I r^ad as fol- D B 3 lo"'* ' 2o6 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charles Konig, lows : " The table cases in the middle of the room contain a general collection of Esq. shells ; and the cases Nos. i and 2 contain the shells of the cephalopodous and other moUusca ; '' will you inform the Committee whose arrangement that is? — 23 July 1835. j^jj. Children and Mr. dray's ; Lamarck's is the system generally adopted. 2goi. Then is the Committee to understand that the arrangement, as described in the Synopsis, is a mixture of Lamarck's and Cuvier's ?— I am not prepared to say ; Cuvier and Lamarck generally go together in these classes. 2902. Are their respective systems adopted conjointly in this Synopsis, or are they adopted separately, or is any distinction drawn by which the public may know which system is adopted, and which is not? — There is certainly nothing said about it ; it is in some cases a mixture of the two. 2903. Is there any note affixed to the labels, with the initials of the author whose system is adopted ; for instance, L. for Lamarck, and C. for Cuvier ? — Yes, the three first letters are added to the names on the labels. 2904. Is that the case throughout? — Yes, I think it is the case throughout where the names are Lamarck's or Cuvier's ; the distinction is certainly added, to the generic name in all cases. 2905. Is the Committee to understand, that a student going to the British Museum, and being anxious to obtain a knowledge of the system of Lamarck or of Cuvier, could obtain that knowledge accurately and distinctly from reference to the names of these respective naturalists upon the labels ? — He may become acquainted with all the species in the collection which these two authors have named and described. They go together generally in their respective nomenclatures, as far as 1 know, and where there are deviations, it is easy for any student to discover them. 2906. But is the collection now, in reference to its classification and nomen- clature, in a state to benefit a student of natural history who wishes to obtain a knowledge of the last and best system adopted by the most eminent naturalists ? — The names are not affixed to the whole of them. 2907. Would not a student wishing to gain such information, first make him- self acquainted with the works of such authors, and then resort to the Museum, for the purpose of comparing them with the specimens ? — ^Yes ; but as I observed, several circumstances may prevent adhering closely to the arrangement of any naturalist ; you must deviate from it occasionally. 2908. Do you not think that a national collection ought rather to induce and stimulate inquiry, than to furnish information to those who are already learned ? — Certainly ; it may be considered the chief object in forming these collections, to stimulate the exertions of the unlearned ; but whether or not the British Museum has that effect, I cannot say. 2909. Must not that effect be produced in the mind of every individual who walks through the Long Gallery, containing the mineralogical and fossil collec- tion? — I found it easy to adhere to the same system throughout, without deviating from it. In the case of the minerals, I proposed not to deviate under any circumstance, even if the juxta-position of the different species should appear singular. It turns out in the result, that the appearance is pretty good ; but it was straightforward work ; 1 followed Berzelius's chemical system. 2910. Would it not be impossible, due regard being had to scientific knowledge, to arrange all the specimens in the British Museum under the system of Cuvier and Lamarck, or any other individual ? — Yes. ■J911. Do you mean to say that the zoological collections in the Museum could not be arranged strictly according to the systems of Cuvier or Lamarck ? — Yes, they can certainly ; but then if the person who undertakes the arrangement disagrees in some points with the author of the system, I think he may claim a right occasion- ally to deviate from it. 2912. But supposing the author of the deviation should not obtain in the world quite that authority which the author of the system has obtained, do you think the deviation should take place without acknowlegement ? —There is certainly great anarchy, as I observed before, in systematising natural history, and in the nomen- clature, adopted. 291 3. Should you be disposed lightly to interfere with the system adopted by a man like Cuvier or Lamarck ? — I have, as far I could, in the fossils, adopted Cuvier's system, without any deviation from it. 2914. Will you turn to page 25 of the Synopsis, the ninth room; there is a description there of the mammalia in the upper cases j are there not various rep- tiles. SEtECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 207 tiles, and the skins of reptiles in the same case ? — This is all accounted for by the Charks K'om'g, want of room ; they are not now all in their proper places. J'^sq- 2915. Do you think that accounts for the omission of the names in the speci- ~ mens ? — That is a miscellaneous room. -^ ^P^y ^^35- ,2916. In point of fact, the names of those reptiles are omitted in the Synopsis ? —Yes. 29 1 7. Are the names upon the specimens ? — Yes. 2918. Now turn to page 24, and to cases 25, 26, 27, 28, 29; are there not various specimens in these cases which are named in the cases, but whose names are not in the Synopsis ? — The Synopsis does not profess to give the whole of the names. 2919. The Synopsis does not profess to be a catalogue ?— No. 2920. By the very definition of the term, does the Synopsis mean anything more than a general view r — No. 2921. But it professes to give an accurate view, so far as it goes ? — Certainly, what is stated should be accurate. 2922. Now will you turn to page 23 ; there is a description there of the con- tents of case 22.^ — Yes. 2923. Is there not there a confusion of two orders, and is it desirable that that should exist? — It may be so, but I must return the same answer; it is impossible to do otherwise in the present state of the Museum ; the Saloon was not originally intended for a receptacle of zoology. 2924. Then in fact the arrangement here is without reference to order or system at all ? — All the deviations are chiefly to be attributed to want of room ; this does not apply to the shells, of course. 2925. It applies to case 22 ? — Yes, I imagine it applies to that case : the want of room. There are cases which contain only animals of a certain size. 2926. Does the want of room in the Museum prevent your distinguishing the two orders to which the specimens in that case belong in the Synopsis? — Possibly it may. 2927. The Committee ask you this question generally ; whether you, as keeper of the Natural History department, and a man of science, consider that Synopsis such a work as ought to proceed from the British Museum ? — I can only say, that formerly it was much worse, as you will find by referring to the older editions. 2928. The Committee are sorry to press Mr. Kdnig on that point, but they desire to know whether the Synopsis, as it now stands, is such a work as ought to proceed from an institution like that of the British Museum ? — I have frequently expressed my sentiments to that efi^ect to several of my colleagues ; the subject requires a different treatment ; the Synopsis is not a popular work, nor is it strictly a scien- tific work ; it is an odd mixture of the two. 2929. In every new edition have considerable improvements been made ? — Cer- tainly ; something is changed and something is added upon every new acquisition. 2930. VVould it not present an insurmountable obstacle to the investigation, and consequently discovery, were you to adhere strictly to the systems of" individuals who have been long dead ? — I think it is hardly possible to adhere strictly to any system. 2931. You have stated this to be a somewhat popular compendium of the con- tents of the Museum ?— It is, in some respect; not sufficiently so in my opinion. 2932. Will you turn to pages 60, di, and .65 ; you will find there a description of the salmon, the cod, tlie sole and the sturgeon. In the description of the salmon we are told that the flesh furnishes one of the greatest delicacies of the table ; we are told the flesh of the cod is white, and regularly separates into flakes, is of easy digestion, and very palatable ; and in page 65, we are told the flesh of the sturgeon is excellent ; do you consider that is such a learned and scientific description of these respective specimens of natural history, as should form part of the Synopsis of the contents of a national institution? — I think the whole of the Synopsis should be reconsidered, and something better may be produced than the present publication. 2933- Is there in the passages quoted anything inconsistent with science or with truth, so far as your judgment is concerned? — I think not ; but the question is, should the public pay 2s. for observations they do not want. 2934. VVould you also refer to the description of the sturgeon, in page 65, and allow me to ask you whether the description of what is usually called the air-bladder is correct as it stands ? — It is described as the swimming bladder. 2935- Do you think it is correct to describe what is usually called th§ air-bladder D D 4 ^s 2o8 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charles Konig, ^s the swimming bladder; is that the form in which you would give tb^sfe Esq. description yourself?— I should perhaps not have described it so, though the " term is borrowed from the German, and indicates the purpose which that organ 22 July 1835. answers. 2936. Will you turn to page 88 ; you will find there this remark ; "The tit- mice differ from crows chiefly in their diminutive size ;" do you think that is pre- cisely a description of the characteristic difference which ought to exist in a synop- sis with any pretensions to science ? — I have no doubt that the writer of that obser- vation could maintain its correctness. 2937. You think he would endeavour to maintain, that the chief distinction be- tween the crow and the titmouse, is its size, speaking of course scientifically }-t^ The passage is meant to express that the titmouse possesses all the essential cha- racters which distinguish the family of birds to which it belongs, in common with the crow. 2938. Now will you turn to page 105. It is stated that cases ^^ and 60 con- tain the fifth class of gasteropodous mollusca, and that they respire free air ; will you state to the Committee how you justify that description ? — Free air is used in contradistinction to air in combination with other bodies, such as water 2939. Is there any new edition of the Synopsis in preparation ? — No; there is a considerable number of copies remaining, I understand. 2940. To speak seriously, is it not desirable that the officers of the Museum should meet together and revise the Synopsis, so as to make it a publication some- thing worthy of the British Museum ? — I think it is very capable of improve- ment. 2941. You have had several questions put to you respecting the non-exhibition of specimens in the possession of the British Museum ; is the Museum in posses- sion of the large head of the ichthyosaurus ? — It is in possession of more than, one.: 2942. Were there any remains of that animal purchased at the same time ? — There were detached vertebrae. 2943. Are these bones exhibited in the Museum ? — They are not ; but they teach no more than those that are exhibited. 2944. Are they at all exhibited in the Museum ? — Not at this moment. 2945. Why are they not exhibited? — Because there is no room, 2946. Do you not think it would be advisable to omit some inferior specimens from the collection, for the purpose of collating all the remains of that one ichthyosaurus, and exhibit them in one case? — Before the alteration was made in the cases, which was rendered necessary by the late acquisitions, the vertebrje you allude to were kept in those cases, and I was obliged to take them down. I did not take them down with a view not to put them up again when there was room, but I was impressed with the idea that they were the least interesting objects in the case. 2947. But surely, as forming a part of a skeleton of which you were in posses- sion of the head, they were objects of very great interest? — There are other speci- mens of the same bones exhibited. 2948. Was not a piece of native gold fiom Peru, of great rarity, offered tp the Trustees for purchase a short time ago ? — There was. 2949. Will you state why it was refused ? — The price was rather high ; it was considerably above 100/. 2950. Was it not a specimen of extreme rarity? — The peculiarity consisted in its being of two different shades of yellow. There was an alloy in one portion, which did not appear to exist in the other ; how far that rendered it more valuable, or considerably more so, I do not know. Sinking so much money in one specimen was objectionable. 2951. Was it solely on account of the expense? — I suppose the reasons were not stated ; Mr. Forshall wrote to the gentleman who offered it. 2952. Was any price set upon it by the person who offered it? — No; but it was much more than the intrinsic value. 2953. Was any price whatever set upon it by the person who offered it for sale to the Trustees ? — No ; no particular sum was asked. 2954. Then why did the Trustees decline to enter into any treaty for it? — Be- cause they thought it was not the most desirable thing to be purchased. 2955. And that was your opinion ? — I do not know how far I expressed my SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 209 lay opinion on the subject ; but with the small sura at my disposal, I have a great Charles Kdnig, deal to do to consider in what way it may be laid out with the greatest propriety. Esq. 2956. The question refers not to the sum in your hand and at your disposal, but to the Trustees permitting you, from the general funds, to make that extraor- ^^ -^"'^ ^^3^" dinary purchase ; with that explanation that you stated to the Committee, it was expedient not to recommend the Trustees to make the purchase in question ? — I am quite certain, in this case, the Trustees would not have purchased it. 2957. Did you recommend them to purchase it ? — I suppose I did not, but I am not quite certain ; I suppose I made no observation upon the offer. ■2958. Then in not purchasing this specimen, are the Committee to Understand that the Trustees did not act against your recommendation? — If my memory serves me, I only stated that it was offered for sale, without giving my opinion one way or the other ; because the Trustees, if they had wished to negociate for it, would pro- bably have called me in, and asked me questions respecting it. , 2959. You are occasionally called in before the Trustees, to give information as to the state of your department ? — On specific questions. 2960. On those occasions, are you accustomed to stand before the Trustees ? — Yes, certainly. 2961. Do you stand the whole time ? — We never sit down ; it is not the etiquette. The Rev*. Josiah Forshall, called in ; and Examined. 2962. DO you produce any papers which the Committee called for on a former Rev. day, with reference to Mr. Hawkins's collection ? — The first paper I now produce, is Josiah Forshall. a copy of a report made by Sir Henry Ellis, Mr. Konig and Mr. Children, on the ~ 2d of February 1829, regarding the department of Natural History. — (See Appen- dix, No. 27.) — That paper does not relate at all to Mr. Hawkins's fossil remains. The first paper I have in my custody regarding Mr. Hawkins's fossil remains, is , a minute of the 1 1 th of May 1 833, it merely states that an offer was made by Mr. Hawkins of a collection of fossil remains; that a letter from Professor Buck- land, on the subject of the collection, was laid before the Board ; and that the Trustees, being ignorant of the extent of the collection and the price at which it was estimated, declined the offer. In the following month, June \ 833, there is a second minute, that a letter was read from Mr. Thomas Hawkins, offering to the Trustees his collection of fossil organic remains for 4,000 /. ; Mr. Hawkins expressed his willingness to dispose of the best of the Saurian animals for 3,000 /. ; or should that offer prove unacceptable, with the rarest of them for 2,000/. ; a catalogue and drawings of the most remarkable specimens were laid before the Trustees, and the Trustees declined the purchase. The next paper I have is an extract of a letter from Professor Buckland, of Oxford, to Lord Farnborough, dated 26th of June 1 834, stating that in the week preceding Professor Buckland had had a conversation with Mr. Konig and myself, and that we were not less aware than he was of the importance of the collection. (/if is given in, and read. — See Appendix, No. 28.) The next is a letter from myself to Mr. Konig, dated July ioth» 1834, suggest- ing that it would be desirable that he should see Mr. Hawkins's fossil remains, with a view to giving his opinion to the Trustees on the following Saturday. (It is given in, and read.) Then I have a copy of a minute of a general meeting of the Trustees, dated 1 2th July 1 834, when a letter was read from Mr. Hawkins, offering his collection of fossil remains of ichthyosauri and plesiosauri, for any sum at which they might be valued by Professor Buckland : Mr. Hawkins stated that this offer included all the articles engraved in his published work on fossil remains : a letter was also read, dated the 7th of July, from Professor Buckland, and others from Mr. Man- tell, of Lewes, the Rev. William Conybeare, and from Mr. Clift, of the College of Surgeons, in London, severally bearing testimony to the importance of the col- lection: a second letter, dated the 9th of July, was also read from Mr. Hawkins, offering to the Trustees, at Professor Buckland's valuation, his fossil organic remains not included. in the former offer, and not of the Saurian tribe : Professor Buckland being in attendance, was called in, and in answer to questions put to him by the Trustees, he stated, that the collection of Saurian animals figured in Mr. Hawkins's work was quite unique, and in all probability must long remain so ; that Mr. Hawkins had been enabled to form the collection by his enthusiastic 479. E E devotion 210 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Rev. devotion to this particular pursuit, by a disregard both of labour and expense, and Jo siah ForsM l. j^y adding to the fortunate circumstance of a residence on the strata in which these y , „ fossils were discovered an intimate acquaintance with comparative anatomy : Professor 22 u y 1 35. Bygijian^j further stated, that even if a similar collection were hereafter made, it could only be done at a very considerable expense, both in extracting the fossils and in setting them together, and that no future discoveries could therefore produce any great depreciation in the value of the present offer : Professor Buckland also re- presented to the Board that, exclusive of the reptiles figured in Mr. Hawkins's work, he had in his collection several specimens of Saurians, which were very desi- rable for the Museum : the Trustees conferred with Mr. Konig on the subject of this purchase ; Mr. K(5nig stated that he had seen Mr. Hawkins's specimens ; that they would not be duplicates of any specimens already in the Museum ; and that he thought the collection of Saurians unique, and an extremely desirable acquisi- tion. The Trustees requested Dr. Buckland to send the valuation which he and Mr. Mantell might put upon the organic remains, to the secretary, as soon as it was made, and to distinguish in their valuation the part of which engravings are given in Mr. Hawkins's work from the other Saurians : the secretary was directed to draw up a letter to the Lords of the Treasury, recommending the purchase of the collection, and having obtained the sanction of so many of the Trustees then present as he conveniently could, to send the letter to the Treasury, with copies of the testimonials and valuations before referred to. Connected with the minute now read, I have copies, in the first place, of a letter from Gideon Mantell, Esq., dated the nth July, recommending the acquisition of Mr. Hawkins's fossils; a copy of another letter from the Rev. William Conybeare, and of others from Mr. Clift, Mr. De la Beche, and Professor Buckland. Perhaps the Commit- tee would not wish me to occupy their time by reading any extracts from those letters, but the testimony given in them to the merits of the collection is very strong. {The above Letters are given in. — See Appendix.) I have also a copy of a minute dated the ist of August 1 834, which carries the history of the transaction down to the completion of the purchase ; and copies of letters from Professor Buckland, dated 12th July, and the 20th July, regarding the value of this collection, and referred to in the preceding minute. Then I produce Mr. Konig's reports, particularly adverted to by the Committee at their last sitting, the first dated the 1 2th of February 1 835, of which the following' is an extract : " With regard to these Saurian fossil remains lately purchased of Mr. Thomas Hawkins, Mr. Kbnig regrets that he is necessitated to acquaint the Trustees that a discovery of rather a vexatious nature has been made since the arrival of that collection at the Museum. The two largest specimens, especially the principal ichthyosaurus, which, on account of its supposed perfection, has been valued at 500/., have turned out to be of much less value, on account of their being made up and all over restored with plaster of Paris, and altogether unfit to be exhibited to the public without derogation from the character of the British Museum. Mr. Konig has thought it right to inform of this circumstance the gentlemen upon, whose recommendation and valuation the collection in question was purchased. Dr. Buckland in answer suggests, &c. Under these circumstances nothing remains for Mr. Konig but to await the pleasure of the Trustees as to the steps that are to be taken in this emergency." There follows a minute of the Trustees, made on that report of Mr. Konig, the chief point of which is, that the consideration of Mr. Konig's report, so far as the restorations are concerned, was referred to the sub- committee of Natural History. The next paper is an extract from Mr. Konig's report of March 1 2th, 1 825: " With regard to the large specimen of the ichthyo- saurus, purchased from Mr. Hawkins, Mr. Konig is decidedly of opinion that the method of obviating any deception as to its real state, by colouring the restored, and thus distinguishing them from the osseous parts, is preferable to a complete abrasure of the plaster of Paris. By the latter process not only very little of the dorsal vertebral column would remain, but the whole tail, consisting of 68 vertebrae made of plaster of Paris, would disappear." There are some other points which perhaps I need not state. Then I have a minute of the committee of Trustees, dated March 14th, regarding a letter from Professor Buckland, in explanation of these restorations. And, lastly, I have a minute of the 26th of March 1835, of the sub-committee of Natural History: So much of Mr. Konig's report of Fe- bruary 12th, as relates to the purchase and arrangement of Mr. Hawkins's fossil rcKiains, SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM, 211 remains, was read. Mr. Kbnig's report of the 12th of March, on this subject, was also read, as was Dr. Buckland's letter of the same date. Mr. Kdnig was called in, and in answer to questions put by the Trustees, made several statements. The Trustees proceeded to visit the specimens, and the orders which they made on the subject are recited. The only remaining document is Professor Buckland's letter of the 10th of March 1 835, which perhaps it is advisable I should proceed to read throughout to the Committee ; it is addressed to me as secretary. (i(? is given in, and read, as follows:) My dear Sir, Oxford, 12th March 1835. In consequence of a letter from Mr. Konig, I called last week at the British Museum to examine the amount of restorations in plaster of certain parts of some of the specimens purchased last summer of Mr. Hawkins; and as some misapprehension has gone abroad npon this subject, I feel it due both to Mr. Hawkins and myself to request you on my [be] half to submit the following statement to the Trustees : — That Mr. Hawkins offered the specimens to the Museum at a price to be valued by myself, it being understood that I was to have the assistance, of Mr. Mantell in the valuation : That Mr. Mantell and myself made our estimates separately, and on comparing our lists, found them to agree within 20 1, on the value of the whole collection : That Mr. Hawkins never professed that there were no restorations of some defective portions of some of the skeletons ; on the contrary, I was aware of what he had been doing.. Many of the specimens have for three or four years past been under my observa- tion, and I have often remonstrated against a practice which 1 could not prevent : On more careful exadiination of the specimens, I find the amount of these restorations to be much less than I had supposed, and were I again to value the collection, t should fix a larger rather than a smaller price on it : The principal restorations are in the largest specimen, which was valued only at 200 1, or 200 guineas ; to obtain such a specimen in a perfect state is all but impossible : There has been, therefore, neither fraud nor collusion on the part of Mr. Hawkins, nor want of information on my part as to the fact of reparation and restoration of certain broken portions of the skeletons ; and provided these restored pans be pointed out (as they assuredly ought to be") by a different colour from the bones which they now resemble, no one can possibly be deluded ; and the specimens will be much more intelligible to the unscientific observer than if the restorations had not been made. As erroneous statements have appeared in the papers respecting this subject, you are welcome to make any use you think proper of this communication. Mr. Hawkins would have done well had he indicated the amount of his restorations in his published plates ; but this is a matter which affects the purchasers of his book, and not the Trustees of the-Museum, who, being in possession of the specimens, can so readily remedy the existing evil, by marking with a different .colour the restorations. Believe me, &c. Rev. Josiah Forshall. 22 July 1835. To the Rev. J. Forshall. (signed) W. Bucldand. ' Charles K'onig, Esq., further Examined. 2963. HAVING heard that letter read from Mr. Forshall to you, of the 10th of July, do you recollect that you were invited to see the collection previous to the purchase ? — Yes. 2964. The word " see," as applied to the inspection of organic remains by the keeper of the Natural. History department of the British Museum miglit, perhaps, imply the examination of them ; does that interpretation appear to you to be forced ? — I should rather think so. 2965. Were you called in to the Trustees previous to the purchase? — The pur- chase was virtually made. 2g&6. Were you called in before the purchase was actually made, and the re- mains placed in the possession of the Trustees ? — Yes ; certainly. , 2967. Are you aware of the sum first asked ; if so, state it? — No, I am not. 2968. Are you aware of the sura actually given; if so, state it? — I am not aware. 2969. After full examination, of the remains, do you think that the collection is worth 1,250 /, ? — It is a matter of opinion. My opinion was, that it was rather too much, and that is the opinion of some other gentlemen of my acquaintance ; but I never stated that publicly ; I had no reason to do it. 2970. Can you favour the Committee with a statement of your opinion as to the sum which you believe the Trustees could now obtain for this collection if they were inclined or enabled to dispose of the same? — I am perfectly unable to do that; and 1 siippose nobody can do so. , 479. E E 2 ' 2971. Did Charles Konig, Esq. 212 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charles Kmig, 297 1. Did you believe that the sum of 500 /. had been asked and given for one Esq, of the specimens ? — I certainly stated that. 22"jui 8~r 2972. If you then believed that the sum of 500/, had been asked and given for ^ one of the specimens, do you conceive that the sum of 1,250/. was out of propor- tion to the assumed value of the general collection in its entirety? — I should not acquiesce in the reasonableness of 500 /. "for that specimen, but I may be mis- taken. 2973. When you were called upon to see the collection, had you any reason to suspect that any part of it was artificially composed ? — When I saw if, it was at a distance. The coach-house where it was kept was full of this collection, and other things with it ; and it was impossible to go quite near it. But even had I been so close to it as to be able to examine into the genuineness, of the specimen, it would never have occurred to me, I did not go for that purpose. 2974. Have you seen the plates of the great specimens of the ichthyosauri, which were published before the specimens themselves were purchased by the Trugtees of the British Museum ? — I have seen them ; but I did not examine them or read the book at all. 2975. Will you examine the plate of the large specimen alluded to, and point out to the Committee such parts of it as that plate indicates to be artificial in the real specimen {the Plate being shown to the Witness)? — In this plate the right fore paddle is represented as a restoration. .2976. The right paddle not being shaded, but simply engraved in outline, indi- cates that that part is not real in the specimen purchased ? — Yes. 2977. Now, in the specimen actually purchased, are there not some parts arti- ficial, which in this drawing appear to be genuine? — Yes; there are some such parts artificial. 2978. Will you state to the Committee, from the drawing before you, what parts in the specimen purchased are artificial besides the right paddle, and which were not therefore honestly represented in the drawing before you r — With the exception of about 13 of them, all the processes of the vertebrae and several ribs are artificial. 2979. These 13 processes of the vertebras, which you have just described, appear upon the drawing to be a part of the genuine remains ? — They are not represented as restorations. 2980. And these processes, which are artificial, are also represented as genuine? • — Yes; all the rest are plaster. The lias surrounding those vertebral processes which I have mentioned as genuine, is also natural ; namely a patch of about 20 inches by four, is real lias ; the rest was made up of plaster of Paris with lamp- black, to imitate lias, with cracks and rifts passing through the bones ; but I do not say it was done with a view to impose upon anybody, or that either Dr. Buckland or Mr. Mantell did mistake that portion for lias. 2981. Suppose you had been called upou to purchase a specimen, an engraving of which had been shown to you, separating the ai'tificial from the natural parts, should you have been led to suspect that other parts than those actually represented as artificial, were really artificial ? — I might perhaps have agreed in opinion with the two gentlemen who made the valuation, but I am not certain of it. 2982. That is to say, you would have been misled by a drawing which pretended to distinguish between the natural and artificial portions of the specimens pur- chased ? — Yes. 2983. What led you minutely to examine the specimen when it was received into the Museum ? — I then thought it incumbent on me to make inquiry into the state of the specimen, and to become acquainted with it in all its parts. 2984. When you state you thought it incumbent on you to make an inquiry, do you mean that you inquired of any party ? — No ; that I subjected it to close examination. I tried the parts that I suspected with a knife, and found them to be plaster, or at least a great proportion of them. 2985. Will you inform the Committee how you were led to suspect certain parts to be artificial ? — From the general appearance, compared with those genuine portions. 2986. Not from anything you heard, but from your own inspection and exami- nation ? — No, I had not heard a word. 2987. Are these restorations creations of Mr. Hawkins's brain, or is there authority in the specimen in which they are restored ?— There is authority in the genuine processes which I pointed out. 2988. Do SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 213 2988. Do you not conceive, from the knowledge you have of fossil organic Chartes Konw^ remains, that had the vi^hole of these been real, the specimen would have been Esq, valued at a much higher sum than 200 /. ? — I do not know. 2989. Do you not consider that specimen, even with the restoration, as being 22 July 1835. perfectly unique in its kind ? — Certainly, I think it is unique ; and so you may say of every specimen : it is unique for its iize. It teaches nothing ; but it is not my wish to undervalue it. 2990. Is it not usual, in order to retain the different portions of these specimens in their proper position, to set them with plaster of Paris ? — Yes. 2991. Have you read Mr. Hawkins's Memoir? — Part of it. 2992. Is it not stated that he made use of 30 cwt. of plaster in setting that spe- cimen ? — Yes. 2993- Would that specimen have been more interesting, or more valuable, had the whole of the setting been the natural lias ? — More valuable, no doubt. 2994. Will you state in what way ? — Inasmuch as real lias is preferable to artificial. 2995. Is there not sufficient of the original bed remaining in the specimen to show what was the actual formation from which it was derived? — Yes, 2996. Are any of the bones actually detached from the lias, and set in plaster? — -Yes. 2997. You have been asked whether you have read the Memoir of Mr. Hawkins, and that part of it which states that 30 cwt. of plaster was used : I believe that plaster the work professes to have been used for the purpose of setting genuine portions of the remains, does it not ?■ — I suppose nothing is said about it. 2998. But there are portions of the animal itself which have been manufactured and set in sulphate of liriie ; is not that so ? — All the vertebrae of the tail are artificial, 2999. In fact, it has been attempted to pass off pieces of lime as genuine remains of this Saurian reptile ? — I do not know whether or not the restorations were meant to be passed off for real bones. 3000. It had that effect, because in the specimen presented to you in the first instance, there was no distinction made between the natural and artificial portions ? —No. ' 3001. Now you have been asked, whether or not it would have been more valuable, had the genuine remains been retained in the natural bed of lias ; would they not have been more valuable, inasmuch as the remains would then have been in their original bed ? — Yes ; but the friable nature of the bed would not admit of that ; it is impossible to preserve a piece of lias of considerable dimensions. 3002. But the specimen professed, in certain parts of it, to be deposited in its original bed ; did it not? — Yes ; if by •' professing" is understood that it is not stated to be otherwise ; neither the letter-press nor the figures indicated the Has to be artificial. .3003. And a part of the specimen is an imitation of the original bed of Has ? — . Yes ; but this is removed. 3004. And another part of the specimen is an imitation of the vertebrae of the animal ? — Yes. 3005. You are acquainted with this other specimen shown at plate 7 ? — ^Yes. 3006. Do you consider that specimen as a very valuable one ? — Yes j that is a first-rate specimen. 3007. Are there any artificial restorations in that specimen ? — I have not been able to discover any. 3008. Are you acquainted with the specimens shown in plate 13 ? — Yes.. , 3009. Have you ever seen a specimen so illustrative of the osteology of that species of ichthyosauri as this ? — It is very fine. 3010. Are there are any restorations in that specimen ? — No. 30H. I believe plate 17 also illustrates another specimen in the Museum?-— Yes. 3012. What opinion have you formed of that.? — I have given those specimens the most conspicuous place in the collection. 3013. Have you ever seen any specimen of this collection of ichthyosauri so illustrative of its character as that ?— Certainly not. 30 14. Have you detected any important restorations in that specimen ? — No ; I should not call them important. 3015. Do you think there is any part of that which is artificially raaoufactured ? ■ E E 3 -There 214 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Charle^Konig, _There is nothing that is not perfectly warrantable. All these bones of the pad- dies are in their natural situation. 22 July 1835. 3016. Do you not consider that specimen of the plesiosaurus, in plate 24, as the finest that has ever yet been discovered ? — Yes. 3017. Have you detected any restorations in that specimen r — One can hard];^ call it a restoration, A paddle in plaster of Paris v?as introduced, but in such a manner that nobody could have mistaken it. That paddle, however, I removed,' and transferred it upon the plaster cast of the same specimen. 30 1 8. Are the portions you removed exhibited in this drawing as parts of the genuine specimen ? — No. 3019. In the specimen shown in plate 24, you have thought it right distinctly and clearly to remove the part which is artificial, have you not ? — The artificial lias is removed ; the other restorations are differently tinted. ' 3020. What was the value set upon the large specimen which has been the subject of discussion ? — It is pretty generally believed to be 500 I. I do not know whether it is entirely on the authority of the Literary Gazette, but it was so stated in that periodical. 3021. In your opinion are the specimens generally good, independent of the restorations ? — Yes. 3022. In fact, the restorations which have been made are entirely confined to what was considered the most valuable specimen, and that for which the most money was paid ? — Yes ; but it appears from Dr. Buckland's letter, that an error prevailed as to the just-mentioned sum. 3023. But the most extensive alterations and restorations vpere made in that spe- cimen for which the largest sum was paid ? — If that sum was really paid. 3024. Do you know any other specimens in the whole collection which cost as much as that ? — The specimens just pointed out to me are, in my opinion, the most valuable in the collection. 3025. But the largest specimen in which you have found the most extensive alterations, is that for which the largest sum was paid ? — I do not know what the respective sums for the different specimens were. 3026. Suppose the 1,250 /. to be a fair price for the whole collection, how much should you take off in consequence of the discoveries you have subsequently made, of reparations in plaster of Paris ? — It is difficult to answer that. I think it is almost entirely a matter of fancy. 3027. How much has it depreciated in your estimation, in consequence of your discovery that it is not all genuine ? — According to the statement of one of the gentlemen who made the valuation, the restoration was not discovered by me ; depreciation, therefore, would scarcely be admitted to exist. 3028. But it was not known entirely to that extent ? — I suppose it will appear, from the letter of Dr. Buckland, to what extent it was known. Veneris, 24" die Julii, 1835. T. G. B, ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. John George Children, Esq., called in ; and Examined. 7 G Children S^^Q- WHAT appointment do you hold in the British Museum? — Assistant Esq. ' officer in the Natural History department, ' 3030. Will you state the salary of the office, and whether there are any emplu- a4„J«ly 1835. jnents or apartments attached to it? — The salary of the office is 120/. a year; for which service on two days in the week is given ; then, by special compact with the Trustees before I came to the British Museum, three further days are given, at the rate of 'J5 1, per annum for each day so given. There are no other emolu- ments attached to the office whatever, except 5 /. worth of stationery. 3631. With SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 215 31331. With i-egard to residence ? — 'There are apartments. j, g. ChUdnn-, 3032. Will you state the gross salary which you receive? — Three hundred and ^^sq- forty-five pounds. 3033. How long have you been assistant-keeper of the Natural History depart- ^4 July 1835. ment? — I do not recollect at this moment the year. I was originally in the department of Antiquities, and removed' to that of Natural History, somewhere, I think, about the year 1822. 3034. And you entered the Museum in the year l8i6 ?— Yes. 3035. Will you now inform the Committee the duties which are attached to your present appointment ? — Taking care of the collections, (I have been attached particularly to the zoological branch of the Natural History department,) naming them, and seeing that they are kept clean, and free from injury either from insects or from any other cause ; and the general preservation, order, and arrangement of them. 3036. Do you consider yourself as under the direction and control of the head of the Natural History department? — I certainly consider that Mr. Konig is the senior officer of that department, and of course I should consider myself bound to follow his directions, if he were to give them to me. At the same time, I should observe that Mr. Konig has generally attended to the mineralogical branch of the department ; but he has given me at all times whatever assistance I may have required. 3037. Are you in the habit of consulting him at all, as to any arrangement you may adopt, or as to any change in the arrangement which you may think it expe-^ dient to adopt, from time to time, in your department ? — Not in general. 3038. Then the Committee is to consider that you are responsible for the present arrangement of the Zoological department? — Certainly, I consider my- self so. 3039. Are you responsible for the present nomenclature which is adopted ? — I am. 3040. You both superintend and direct the naming of specimens; and any change of nomenclature you are also answerable for ? — Yes. I have perfect con- fidence in Mr. Gray's knowledge and judgment ; the naming of the shells I have left to him, and some others. 3041. What office does Mr. Gray hold? — Mr. Gray is a gentleman who has been attached to my department now for some years. Mr. Gray is employed as an assistant there. 3042. In fact, he is a colleague of yours in the Natural History department ? — Certainly. 3043. Now will you inform the Committee what you consider strictly the Zoological department, in order that they may know precisely that for which you are responsible ? — For all the collections of animals, beginning with the mamma- lia and going down to the radiata ; in fact, for the whole of the subjects of Cuvier's work, the R^gne Animal ; also, of course, including the insects. 3044. Do you consider that you are responsible for the Entomological depart- ment ? — I should think strictly that I am ; but there is an extra officer, to whom the care of that has been expressly given ; and I have not interfered in that. 3045. In point of fact, practically speaking, you do not consider yourself re- sponsible at all for the preservation or the arrangement of the Entomological de- partment ? — I would not say that ; I would consider that I am : I consider that any of the higher officers of the department are responsible to see that it is kept in proper order. 3046. But you do not practically exercise any control ? — Very lately I have been at work on the arachnidag ; that is the only time I have ever interfered at all. 3047. Will you state what attendants you have to assist you in your arrange- ment of so extensive a department as that which you have stated to be under your control ?--One ; and I beg leave to say that that one, for three days in the week, is of no use whatever to us, because he is then employed as .one of the custodes, and stands in the public rooms, with a tvand in his hand, to prevent the people breaking the glasses and so forth.' 3048. Do you consider that you have that assistance rendered you which is required for the proper arrangement and preservation of the specimens ? — Certainly not. 3049. Have you ever represented to the Trustees that it was desirable that fur- ther assistance should be given you in that respect ? — I do not recollect that I ever 479. E E 4 made 2i6 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J. G. CkildKen, Made any formal application for more attendants, except for the present one, who Esq. was granted upon my application. There are in the department two or three ? — others,' but they do not assist in the zoological branch, except on special occasions^s 24 July 1835. 3050. I understand you to, say you have not the assistance in the shape of , attendants that is desirable ? — No, certainly not. 3051. Do you consider any of the gentlemen that may be comprehended in the^ term assistants, as at all under your control ? — Certainly. I consider that if I desired^ any one of them to leave off the particular work in which he might be engaged, and go and do something else, he would be bound to do it. 3052. Then you consider yourself as second in the Natural History department, and entitled to direct the other assistants in that department independently of Mr, Konig? — I do not know that according to the strict law of the Museum I should be entitled to do that, but it has been always conceded to me by Mr. Konig, and t therefore I have thought it unnecessary to trouble him every time ; but perhaps strictly, I ought to report to him what I wish to have done, and have his sanction, 3053. Now, will you state to the Committee whether you think such an arrange- ment is the most desirable for the management of the department of Natural. History ? — I must candidly say I do not ; because the business of the zoological branch of the department is so completely different from that of the mineralogical, that I do think it would be better that the mineralogy and zoology should be altot ; gether separate ; and but for the fear that it might be attributed to interested mo- , tives, as well as from the conviction that, under existing circumstances, the Trustees could not have adopted it, I should long since have suggested the measure. 3054. Are there any catalogues of the specimens of Natural History? — They,,, have been begun, but they are not finished; in fact, there is so much more to do , than the hands we have can do, that it is utterly impossible to make a general; . correct catalogue at present. ].^ 3055. When was that catalogue commenced ? — I believe by Dr. Leach. ^ 3056. Is it in existence at this moment, in manuscript or print ? — In manuscript. 3057. Then it has not been kept up ? — No, certainly not. 3058. When was it last under your consideration? — I cannot tell; Mr. Gray^! may know about some portions of it, but I should say that for any useful purpose it has been almost laid aside for a considerable time. Dr. Leach did not himself go on with it. Mr. Samouelle has kept it up more regularly with respect to the insects. 3059. Then, practically speaking, there is no catalogue of specimens in the Zoological department ? — There is not that perfect one which I should wish to see. 3060. Are you at all acquainted with a work of which the following is the title, " Repertorium Commentationum a Societatibus Literariis editarum," by J. D. Reuss ? — I have seen the work. 3061. Do you think it possible or desirable that a similar catalogue of the speci- mens conjoined with a catalogue of the writers, should exist for the use of the student, or of the public, visiting the British Museum ? — It certainly would be a very useful thing. 3062. Have you ever made the formation of such a catalogue the subject pf a report to the Trustees ?- — Not that I recollect. 3063. Having admitted that it would be desirable to have some such catalogue, and that it is a desideratum at present, will you inform the Committee why you have not specially brought this subject under their notice ? — I do not know that it has ever occurred to me to think of doing so ; but if it had, under the present state of things, I should not have thought it worth while to do so, because I am afraid the expense which it would occasion would be such as the Trustees would not have felt themselves justified in incurring. 3064. But is expense the only obstacle which you think worth consideration ? — A part of the expense would necessarily be that of providing many more hands ; and I have certainly occasionally mentioned that more hands were wanted. 3065. Now supposing a board could be formed of the most eminent natu- ralists, and that board had the control of the Natural History department ; do you think that such a board would be favourable to the perfect collection of the specimens, and the best and latest arrangements ?^ I cannot say with respect to the collection ; that would depend of course on the facilities of acquiring, and; the means afforded in point of expense ; but with respect to the other part of the question, if the board were continually controlling the officers, it would do* more harm than good. 3066.. W'li SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 217 3066. Will you explain that answer in reference to the word control ? — I mean J. G. Children, that if they did not leave the officers to follow their own judgment sufficiently ; if, Esq. for instance, the officers proceeded upon one system, and they did not agree in — opinion with them and changed it, they might not make so good a system as the H July 1835. officer himself would if left to his own management. I think'there is that possible inconvenience which might arise from establishing a board ; otherwise I see none. 3067. Are you at all acquainted with a work, by Monsieur Deleuze, containing a history and description of the Royal Museum of Natural History at Paris ? — I have seen the work, but I have not read it. 3068. Now, supposing the officers of the Museum were composed of men who in this country were as distinguished in their several branches of science, as the following individuals were, who composed the board of officers in the Jardin des . Plantes in the year 1 794, do j^ou or do you not think, supposing each were respon- sible for his particular department, that the collection generally would be formed on the latest and most scientfic arrangement : MM. Daubenton, Fourcroy, Brong- niart, Desfontaines, De Jussieu, Portal, La Marck, Faujas de Saint- Fond, Geoffroy- Saint-Hilaire, Vanspaendonck, A. Thouin. Now supposing some such board of equally eminent men in this country were formed, do you.not think that the Natural History department, and every department of the British Museum, would be in a very different state to what it is ? — If Government would give their aid, there could be no doubt about it. 3069. But Jo the Truste'es at the present moment, so far as you are acquainted with the polit-y which they adopt, in reference to the Museum, seek to obtain the most distinguished men in each branch of science, with a view to place them at the head of it? — I am afraid I must candidly tell you that I am a proof that they do not. I am satisfied of this, that the Trustees do all that they consider they have the power of doing for the benefit of the sciences. 3070. Without any reference to individuals, but in reference to the principle on which a selection is made to fill vacant offices of 'the Museum by the Trustees ? — What their principle may be I cannot go into, because I do not know what prin- ciple those three high personages may adopt. With respect to myself, I have already said that I do not consider myself anything like the first naturalist in the country. My appointment was not originally to the Natural History department, but I was removed (I believe by the act of the Trustees generally in committee) from the department of Antiquities to the Natural History. That was done at the suggestion of the late Sir Humphrey Davy, a man whom,.of all others, you would probably consider as the fittest person to be a Trustee of the British Museum. The transfer was effected, as I have said, at his suggestion, and almost without my being consulted on the subject, and it has proved very much to my disadvantage. It took place after Dr. Leach's, illness prevented his remaining any longer at the British l^useum ; it was not made- in consequence of any wish of my own. 3071. When you say that Sir H. Davy was perhaps the fittest person to be a Trustee, you do not then consider that because he was the most distinguished chemical philosopher of his day, that he was therefore incapable of discharging with ad- vantage to the public the duties of Trustee to the British Museum ? — No ; being a distinguished chemical philosopher, I should conceive, d, fortiori, that he had some kuiowledge of natural history generally ; but his zoological knowledge (fish perhaps excepted) was very superficial ; mineralogy he had certainly a good knowledge of. 3072. Then supposing some of the most distinguished philosophers of the day were associated with the Trustees, do you consider that siich a board of manage- ment would be at all injurious to the interests of the British Museum ? — Certainly not. . 3073. Should you be disposed to advise, as a scientific man yourself, the siddition of the most eminent literary or scientific men to the board of Trustees, with a view to the interests of the Museum ? — I think it would be beneficial. 3074. Do you not think, considering how few offices there are in Ijhis country which can be applied in the shape of a reward to scientific men, that it would be desirable that so high an honour as that of a Trustee of the British Museum, should be occasionally conferred on men of science and literature .-^-^I think it would be a very proper distinction. 3075. Do you not think it would have the effect, in reference to th» collection that may exist in the Museum, or the donations that may 'be from time to time 479. F F presented, 2i8 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J. G. Children, presented, of inducing eminent individuals to intrust their collections, or to ^^'i- bequeath them to the Museum ? — I do. j^j 3076. Will you look at the list of the originally elected Trustees — (handing it to the " y 1 35- JVitness).—T95- Supposing that they were in possession of the greatest extent of knowledge that any individual ever obtained in their own branch of science, and were in CTery other respect disqualified for the management of a great establishment like the British Museum, should you consider them, on account of their very extensive fcMJowl^dge, fit to be placed in the situation of Trustees of the British Museum ? — Allow me to ask what you mean by " disqualified in every other respect"? 3096. Men of absence of mind; of bad temper; of habits that were irksome and inconvenient to, those with whom they associated ; that had a particular regard to their own branch of science ; and seme peculiar opinions, not admitted generally to be just opinions, with reference to their branches of science ? — Premising that that certainly does not apply to Sir J. Herschel, I should say generally that your disqualification would entirely upset: the utility of such men, however extensive their knowledge might be. 3097. Supposing that a trusteeship of the British Museum were to be the cri- terion to which posterity were to look as the estimate of opinion as to the eminence or merits of an individual, and that such an individual as I have described were not to have conferred upon him the honour of the trusteeship, would it not be consi- dered as a hardship imposed on that individual that he was not to be raised to the honour to which other very eminent scientific men were promoted ? — I think he would have no right whatever to complain ; wanting everything that should dis tinguish an amiable character, he would have no right to complain, of being thrust out of a society where such a character as you have described would be a greater nuisance than could possibly be tolerated. He himself, I suppose, would not be satisfied. >-3o98. If it were to be made a distiifguishing mark of eminence, or otherwise, would it not very frequently be received as a great hardship among scientific men ? • — I dare say it would. 3099. And is that not a consideration with reference to the peculiar situation of a Trustee, distinct from, and of greater importance as far as regards the custom of the Museum, than the mere making it an honorary decoration of a man of science ? -^You mean' that he is possessed of amiable qualities? 3100. Yes? — Certainly. 3101. The question put to you by the Committee did not involve the considera- tion as to whether a purely scientific board of Trustees should direct the Museum, but whether or not the association of the most eminent and distinguished men as elected Trustees with the other Trustees, might not be beneficial to the insti- tution ? — That is the light in which I conceived you meant it, and I still think cer- tainly it would. ■ 3102. When yqu stated that the presidents of learned societies have duties to F F 2 perform 220 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J. G. Children, perforirii different from tBose of the Trustees of the British Museum, do you thin) ^^1- there are any peculiar duties in the Museum which would at all prevent a scientifi( man being as useful to the Museum, and as successful in its management, as an] 24 July 1835. of t}jg existing Trustees ?— No ; for scientific knowledge cannot be any bar to hii utility, supposing he has an equally good judgment with other men. 3103. And when the hypothetical case was put to you of the learned individua otherwise disqualified, do you not think that the discretion with which the existing board of Trustees is invested, would be a sufficient security in electing learnec individuals, against the election falling upon persons so disqualified ? — I should think it would, provided the man's character in question be known. 3104. Are there not among philosophers in every country, men as distinguished for their learning as for their amiable and excellent qualities ? — There are a greai many such men in this country, most undoubtedly, that are as distinguished for their amiable qualities, and their good moral character, as they are for their scientMie attainments. 3105. Speaking of the councils of the different learned societies with which you may be acquainted, are they marked by peculiar jealousies and discords ? — No, certainly not. 3106. Therefore there would be no reason to suppose, if certain iiearned indi- viduals were associated with the Trustees, that such feuds and discords would arise, as to justify the refusal of this honour to eminent men of science ? — I can- not at all comprehend why any discords should be fomented by scientific men. 3107. Do you think high rank should be the sole qualification for a Trustee of the British Museum ? — I do not. 3108. Do you not think, speaking quite ^part from the present eminent indi- viduals who fill the office of Trustees, that great public functionaries, with the most important and extensive duties to perform, are, speaking generally, with reference to the management of an institution like the British Museum, the best persons to direct and control it? — I should think one obvious reason why they would not be so, is that their more important duties must necessarily leave them very little time to attend to the business of the Museum. 3109. The Committee wish it distinctly to be understood, that not the smallest imputation is intended to be conveyed against the eminent individuals who now fill that oflBce ? — I wish to state also that it is the furthest from my thoughts to intend to cast the slightest reflection upon those eminent individuals. 3110. Speaking then quite abstractedly from the present distinguished indivi- duals who are Trustees of the Museum, and admitting that the Museum is per- haps one of the best-managed institutions in the world of a similar kind ; admitting that, do you think the constitution of the British Museum, such as it is, is most conducive to the most beneficial use of its materials ? — I think it might be im- proved, and very much, in the way you have stated. 3111. Should high rank be the sole qualification for a Trustee of the British Museum ? — No. 3112. Does it fall within your knowledge that any distinguished scientific men, not connected with the aristocracy, have been elected Trustees of the British Museum ?— Yes ; the late Henry Cavendish was an elected Trustee ; and there is at this moment one, a nobleman, who is very eminent for his natural knowledge* (Lord Derby,) particularly natural history ; as an ornithologist especially. 3113. Besides those scientific individuals that you have adverted to, there are at all times certain ofl&cial Trustees who, fvom the office they fill, may be assumed to be men of great scientific knowledge ? — They must be assumed to be men of knowledge of course j of general knowledge, and possibly of science ; but if you mean by scientific knowledge, that they are naturalists, mathematicians, and so forth, I do not know that their offices necessarily imply that ; of course it might be as- sumed that they are men eminent for their talents. 3114. The scientific men who have been elected Trustees, and to whom you have alluded, have also been men of high rank, have they not ? — Both, 3115. But are you aware of there having been any elected Trustees from; among the ranks of men of science, unconnected with the aristocracy ?— No, I am nOt aware of it. 31 16. Do you thiok that the public mind is more likely to be satisfied that the interests of a great national institution are guaranteed by the superintendence of the highest functionaries of the State, rather than by persons comparatively unknown, save ' SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 221 save for their scientific and literary knowledge ?— I think the union of both would j. G. Children, be very satisfactory. Esq, 3117. In the question that has been put to you, the words " comparatively un- known, save for their scieatific and literary knowledge," occur ; do you think that 24 July 1835. men like Sir John Herschel and Mr. Babbage are not infinitely better known, and more extensively known, than any man at this moment of the highest rank can be supposed to be by the public?— No, I should think they are not; the Duke of Wellington is, probably, more extensively known than any other man in the • i kingdom. 3118. Do you think that the name of Wellington is more extensively known than that of Herschel? — Yes, I do ; because the battles of the Duke of Wellington are known to every one, and the discoveries of Sir John Herschel are not. > Si' ^9' Do you think that the name of Herschel is not as extensively known ; throughout the globe as the name of Wellington?— Co-extensive, perhaps, for they are both known all over the globe. 3120. And do you not think that the fame of the Duke of Wellington must also be intimately connected with, as it is mainly founded upon military science? — Un- doubtedly. "3121. Is not Lord Lansdowne an elected Trustee ? — I believe so. 3122. Was he not the president of the Zoological Society ? — He was. 3123. Referring now to the specimens of the class mammalia, are they named according to the latest and most approved nomenclature? — They are. 3124. Is the name of the naturalist whose system is adopted, attached to the specimens ? — Generally. ' 3125. When you say generally, are there any deviations, for instance, from Cuvier's system ? — No important deviations. When a new specie? is occasionally discovered, it frequently requires a new genus, and it is put in such a place as it is supposed Cuvier himself would have put it in, endeavouring to keep his system in view altogether as the guide. 3126. Now, is the English and any foreign name attached to the specimens? — The generic name is generally that of Cuvier, but for the specific name, that of Linnasus is usually preferred, as the oldest; and an English synonyme, most fre- quently that adopted in GrifEths's translation of the " Rfegne Animal," is also added. ,3127. Have you in your time materially altered the names of the specimens ? — The names of the shells are materially altered, for when I came to this branch of the Museum, they were principally from Dr. Leach's manuscript, names which I » found hardly anybody knew anything of, and I thought it better to adopt those which were more generally known. 3128. Referring now to the ornithological part r — They are arranged principally according to Temminck, and his generic names in general are adopted, with the specific Latin names of Linnaeus, and the English synonymes of Latham. 3129. Is the popular name also added? — The common name, that is, the English name, is generally taken from Latham. 3130. Are French and German names also appended? — -No. 3131. Do you not think it would be desirable? — I think it certainly would, but it would be an increase of labour, and we are so short-handed that there would be too much writing.; if we had sufficient strength, I should think the more names, there were the better, it would be more useful. 3132. With respect to the shells, I believe you are not immediately responsible for their arrangement and preservation ? — I consider myself under the same degree of responsibility with regard to them as to the other collections. '3133, Then how does it happen that there are various specimens without any ' names ? — Because there has not yet been time to name them. 3134. Do you not think that the names should be added almost at the moment the specimen is placed in the case ?— Till the new building was in a sufficient state of for- wardness to admit of their exhibition, a very large proportion of the specimens now exhibited was, in order to preserve them from destruction, kept in boxes and stowed away wherever space could be found for them ; as, for instance, a vast number of the mammalia, the. greater portion of the birds, the whole of the reptiles, the fishes, a very large quantity of the shells and other articles. As soon as we got room of course tit was desirable, and we were anxious to bring them up and display them ; and that ; business occupied of itself a considerable time, and if we had waited till they were all arranged they must have remained concealed froin the public much longer ; consequently a vast mass of matter came at once into operation wjiich we had to 479. F F 3 ^°"^^ 322 MINUTES OF EVIPI^NCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J. G. Children, work upon, and which we were by much too weak-handed to get completed, anxl £sq- since that time fresh things have been continually coming in almost day by day, If we had had sufficient strength to get them in at once, it might have been done; ?4 July 1835, I stg^g ^}jjg JQ answer to your question whether they are all in. , 3135. Are the labels distinctly and clearly written in all cases? — Not in all cases; but in general they are. There ought to be one person to write labels only. ' 3136. Is there not a person employed to write labels only ? — No ; a person has been occasionally employed ; but there is no one that I am aware of now regularly employed. 3137. But a person has been occasionally employed for that purpose ? — Occa- sionally. 3138. At whjfct rate was he paid for that? — I cannot say. There is a person who is occasionally emploved now ; one of the attendants. 31 39- Is he qualified by his handwriting and general intelligence ? — Certainly. He requires no other knowledge but to copy faithfully the words he has before him. 3140. Did that individual give his services gratuitously at first? — Not the indi- vidual that I allude to. 3141. Will you mention his name? — Mr. M'Kenzie. 3142. Are there any objects of natural history, purchases or donations, which at this moment are unexhibited ? — There are a few ; some are at this moment, I believe, in the bird-stuflfer's hands ; for instance, some parts of the collection be- queathed to the British Museum by the late Major-general Hardwicke, are not yet, on that account, exhibited ; but, in general, whether obtained by purchase or donation, the specimens are put into the cases as soon as possible. 3143. Are there any remaining now in original cases which have never beea examined? — No; there may be some duplicate old skins which are not exhi- bited. 3144. Why are they retained? — Because they cannot be parted with. 3145. Could they not be sold? — Not by me, without the special permission of the Trustees. 3146. Is there any bird-stufFer attached to the Museum? — Not regularly; we had one, but we had no place for him to work in ; we tried it, but it did not an- swer. Mr. Gould is the present stuflfer to the British Museum. 3147. The bird-stuifer is paid by the job ? — He agrees to stuff at so much a skin, large and small. 3148. What security have you that the stuffing of the birds is carefully and pro- perly done? — We have no other security than Mr. Gould's responsibility, and that he would lose the business if he did them badly. 3149. But that would be no satisfaction to the public, if the specimens were de- stroyed by insects, for instance ?— No ; but the public have this further security, that we have endeavoured to find the best men we could in the country. 3150. And you think he is the best man? — I think Gould is the best man. 3151. Knowing that you may be considered a chemical philosopher as well as a naturalist, will you state whether you have ever investigated the subject of stuff-, ing birds, so as to insure their preservation for long periods ? — No ; . I have not had much experience in that respect ; but we have skins which have lasted many years. 3152. Supposing you were disposed to make any original investigation upon that or any other subject immediately connected with your department, have vou the rooms, the opportunity, or a laboratory which could be applied to that purpose }— No, not a watch glass. 3153. Do you not think it would be desirable that each officer of the Museum should be furnished with all the requisites for making such investigations? — I think it would, if he knows how to use them ; he may be a good naturalist, but not have paid much attention to chemistry; 3154. But assuming always that he pursued the investigation as a man of science would pursue it, in reference to his own immediate branch of science, would it not be desirable that he should have every facility for such investigation? > Yes. 3155. Are there such facilities given in the British Museum ? — No, I am con- fining myself to the Zoological department; 3156. You think, however, the Museum has availed itself of all the improve- menta SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 223 nnents ifi the art of stuffing?-^! think so, by employing one of the best stuffers in J. is . iJhiidrek, England. Esq. 31,57. Am I to understand that you consider a laboratory, strictly speakings as one of the desiderata to be attached to the Zoological department ?— I think, in a ^^ ^"'^ ^^35- great many instances, it might be very convenient to have one. 3158. And it is your opinion that it could be applied to other departments of the Museum with advantage ? — I do not know that. 3159. The analysis of minerals? — Yes, that would come in. • 3160, Do you not think that if a laboratory were attached to the Mineralogical department that the head of the Zoological department might have recourse to that kbofalory, as far as ifavestigationa connected with his department would lead him to "investigate chemical questions ? — One chemical laboratory would be quite suf- ficient. 3161. Do you hold any other office than those you have described in the Museum r — I am Secretary of the Royal Society. 3162. No other? — No. 3163. Do the duties of the Secretary of the Royal Society interfere with your duties in the British Museum at all ?— No ; except that the councils of the Royal Society are generally held on a Thursday once a month during the session, at three o'clock, which is, strictly, an hour earlier than the Museum closes ; the other duties do not interfere in the least. 3164. Is there any catalogue of donations in your department? — There is. A general catalogue has been of late years kept of the donations year by year, a,nd published ; that for 1 833 was the last. 3165. The Committee has observed that the names of some donors are much more frequently mentioned than others ; can you state why ? — ^They must have more frequently made presents. 3166. It is not in reference to the number of times that the names are men- tioned, but that some donors' names do not appear to be mentioned at all; some appear only to be mentioned once or twice, and some every time they made presents ?— Do you mean in the Synopsis ? 3167. Yes. — In the Synopsis there are but few names mentioned, and those the names of such persons as have been benefactors to a considerable extent ; for instance. Major-general Hardwicke's ; but the names of the donors are attached to tha specimens themselves. 3168. In all cases? — I believe in almost all. 3169. I find the name of Hardwicke much more extensively lattached than any other r — Because he has been the greatest benefactor we have had of late years by far ; he left us, the other day, at his death, his whole collection. 3170. I understand you to say, then, in point of fact, that the names of donors are, as of right, generdlly attached to the specimens they present ? — It is an unin- tentional omission where they have not been attached. I will not say that some such accidental omissions may not have occurred, but it certainly has been from oversight and not intentional ; it is intended to place them to every specimen. Of course there is no name to those that are purchased ; and a great many that we have are old specimens, and we do not know from whence they came. 3171. The skeleton of the elephant which is exhibited there was presented, I believe, by Sir Jasper Nicholls? — It was; in conjunction with the late Major- general Hardwicke. 3172. Is it exactly in the state in which it was present«d ? — Except the addition of two tusks, which were presented by the Duke of Sussex, and which, with his Royal Highness's sanction, I added to it, because the others had been unfortunately sawn off. 3173. Speaking as a scientific man, do you think it desirable that any specimen should be made perfect or altered from its natural state? — In that instance, from what I did, it is clear what my opinion was. I do think it is occasionally desirable to do it, but never without expressly stating that it has been done, nor without a sufficiently strong reason for doing it, which in this case I think existed, because the object was to exhibit a perfect skeleton, and tbis was so, except the missing portion of the tusks. Suppose a person had never seen an elephant's tusk in his life, and he found only the base of the tusk in the skeleton exhibited, how is he to know what is its general form or its position in the head ? On this ground I thought it better to add the tusks in the present instance; and I had the less hesitation in doing so, because, as far as we could ascertain, they belonged to the 479. • F F 4 same 224 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J. G. Children, same species, and to an animal of about the same age ; in short, the man who put'* ^^"i- up the skeleton (Mr. Flower) said it seemed as if they had been made for it. 24. J 1 8 However, as a general practice, I disapprove of the custom of perfecting specimens ^ from portions of other individuals, and in all cases it should be specified. 3174. Suppose this description to be lost, and in process of time forgottenj and omitted from the Synopsis, where it is not a very material circumstance, might not that specimen represent a perfect one, which, in reaUty, it is not? — Certainly ; that is, it would not be the perfect individual ; he would have false teeth. 3175. On such a principle there is nothing to prevent the skeleton of an ele- phant being made up from parts of as many elephants as each individual bone- might be obtained from? — Certainly that may be done, and I dare say has been done ; not at the British Museum, however, but perhaps at other places. 3176. Do you think it desirable that at a national institution, any other than a perfectly genuine specimen should be exhibited ? — I think, in this case, it is desir- '- able, for the reasons that I have stated ; in general, certainly not. 3177. Now, as regards the ornithological collection, would it not be desirable to add to the names the habitats of the birds, so that young collectors might observe them ? — Do you mean on the label ? / 3178. Yes.? — I am afraid it would be hardly practicable, because the smallest birds would, of course, require it as well as the larger ones. Now the smallest of the humming birds, the trochilus minimus, is hardly bigger than a humble bee ; . and if you were to put a long description to him, the poor little bird would be elFec- tually hid. 3179. Still, more information would be conveyed ? — Would it not be better to convey that in the Synopsis ? 3180. That the Committee will leave to the officers of the Museum. That which would give the greatest information to the spectator, and to the young col- lector, would be most desirable, would it not? — I should think that the Synopsis' would be a much better mode of doing it, except that they of course are put to the expense of purchasing it. 3181. Is any Synopsis accessible at the Museum to those who cannot afford to ' buy one ? — No. 3182. Now, as the plumage of birds, for instance, varies according to age and' sex, should there not be some indication of such circumstances found either at- ' tached to the labels or to the Synopsis ? — It would be desirable, and ought to be done in all cases. In many instances the word " male " or, " female," " young " or " adult," are added, or the usual signs of the sexes, i and ? . That might be done in all cases, because that involves very little writing, and does not occasion much additional labour, provided you are sure of the age and sex ; but sometimes you are not able to speak positively as to either. 3183. Now, when specimens . have belonged to remarkable collections, for in- stance, Montague's, would it not be desirable that the label of the Synopsis should ' indicate the circumstance ? — I think it might. That has not been done generally. In the case of General Hardwicke's legacy, however, it has been rigidly adopted,- and the words " Hardwicke Bequest" are annexed to each specimen, according to, the directions of the testator. 3 1 84. Would or would it not be desirable that the time and place when any rare British specimen has been taken should be noted, in order that it might afford the opportunity, perhaps, of obtaining the same specimen in the same place another time ? — In the Synopsis, I think, it would. 3185. Do you happen ever to have heard of a rare bird having been found in Bermondsey Marshes within a short period of time ? — No, I have not. 3186. And which, from having been known to have been found in that spot,': was again obtained in the following year ? — No ; I am not aware of that. ' 3187. Now the Committee would wish to know what would be your opinion as to' the propriety of requiring from the head of each department, or from assistants in' each department, from time to time, a course of lectures to satisfy the public that' the officers of the Museum were always informed of the latest state of science? If the object were merely to prove the competency of the respective officers, I do not think it would be necessary to adopt any such plan ; and, as at present consti- ' tuted, the British Museum does not possess the necessary materiel, if I may use the expression, for establishing a course of zoological lectures. Of the principle, how- ever, I can have no doubt, as it would be the means of imparting useful knowledge to a class of persons (supposing the lectures open to all) to whom its acquisition is, at SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM; 225 at present, almost impossible. The subjects embraced by zoology in its most ex- ./. G. Children, tended sense (and not one of therii can be omitted without injury to the whole as ^-^l- a System), are so numerous, that it is not to. be expected that any one person can be competent to lecture, to much good effect, on all. It would be right, therefore, ^^ "^"'^ ^^"^^" to .subdivide them into sections, and allot them to persons respectively most con- versant with each ; the mode of effecting which must depend on future arrange- ments. Moreover, since the attention of the practical zoologist, at least as far as the describing and naming of species, and the arrangement of collections goes, is of necessity chiefly devoted to external form, it is seldom that such a person can have acquired that minute knowledge of comparative anatomy necessary to qualify him as an instructor in that difficult and comprehensive science ; yet modern zoology is essentially founded on the observations and researches of the comparative ana- tomist. To render the British Museum, therefore, a sound school of zoological science, it would be necessary, in my opinion, to annex to the present establishment an additional officer as physiologist and lecturer in comparative anatomy ; and also to found an osteological collection, and ,one of physiological preparations, for the purposes of his lectures. Such a plan cannot be carried into execution with- out considerable expense, for besides the additions already alluded to, a spacious and well-furnished laboratory and a lecture-room must be built. In this answer to the question proposed by the Committee, I beg to be understood as confining my- self to the subject of zoology, without reference to botany or mineralogy. 3188. Are you aware that there is a museum attached to Haslar Hospital, which has been formed from specimens collected by the King's officers in various parts of the globe ? — Only from hearsay ; I have never seen it. 3189. Do you think there would be any objection to the consuls in various parts of the world being instructed from time to time to write to the Trustees as to any valuable specimens in natural history which might come under their observation ? — It would be exceedingly desirable. 3190. Has this subject ever come under your consideration, with a view to bring it under the notice of the Trustees ? — I have only hinted my wish that, with all expeditions, especially voyages of discovery, some scientific naturalist, might be sent out (or at least some person competent to collect), who should collect for the British Museum ; but I have never made any formal suggestion to the Trustees. I am of opinion that the adoption of such a measure, with the assistance of the Admi- ralty, would very soon raise our collections fully to rival those of France. .3191. Do you not think, if the plan were adopted, that foreign countries would be disposed to lend their voyages of discovery to the same purpose } — -I have no doubt you might mutually assist each other, to the great advantage of both. 3192. Does it not sometimes occur that foreign naturalists of eminence would be very glad to come to some understanding with the British Museum to collect for them in their voyages or journies of discover)', if the British Museum had on its part presented similar facilities to foreign governments? — I have never had any direct application to that effect, but I have no doubt that that would prove to be the fact, and that we should find plenty who would enter into that correspondence ; and I have had some applications for exchanges. 3193. Will you turn to page 20 of the Synopsis, and give me your opinion of the following passage : "These animals," that is, the troglodytes, " are said to live in society, forming huts of leaves and branches, and to attack man with clubs and stones, in order to drive him from their dwellings." Now, what is your opinion of such a passage ? — I believe it is matter of fact. 3194. On what is it founded ? — T am not certain. 3195. Do you think that such a passage is quite creditable to the Synopsis? — If the Synopsis were intended to be a very scientific thing; if it were not a jumble, (which I acknowledge it is, and I believe you will find that it has been so from the beginning ; it is partly popular and partly scientific ;) if it were purely scientific, 1- should say it was better not, to put that in. I put it in myself; it is my own doing, therefore whatever blame there is must fall on my shoulders. With respect to the ornithorhynchus paradoxus (page 21), I felt extremely embarrassed how to introduce the subject, and give that information which I considered necessary (for the peculiarity alluded to is the great characteristic of that tribe), and yet avoid indelicacy. It-seems to be the wish that the Synopsis shouldgive information, and if such information as that is suppressed, it m ust be very imperfect. 3195*. Howvdo you contrive to convey information in your cheap publications, which are to be pUt into the hands of women and children ; and wh^re you teach 479. G o natural •226 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J. G. Children, natural history in all its branches, and every thing else ? — Unless you mean to givte ^®*i' them very partial information, you must go into such subjects. 3196. Will you turn to page 19? At the bottom is this, "Amongst the monkeys 24 July 1835. ^^g- ^jjg ourang outang, or man of the woods, {Simia satyrtis, Linn.) which of all animals is considered to approach nearest to man, in the form of the head, the size of the forehead, and the volume of the brain." Now, does that description or not strictly apply to the animal ? — I believe it strictly applies ; if I mistake notj those are Cuvier's words. 3197. Are you quite sure that description applies to the Simia satyrusl — To the ourang outang ; not to the chimpanze. 3198. But you have mentioned a Simian name there ? — Simia satyrus ? 3199. Yes. — That is the ourang outang. • 3200. Suppose a naturalist should state that what you have there said applies to the troglodytes, what would you say to that?~I should say that it did not apply to that, but it applies to the ourang outang. The ourang outang approaches,, iii some respects, nearer to man than the chimpanze ; that is ray impression ; I believie that to be correct ; I should not have inserted it if T had not believed it to be correct. 3201. Now (page 26), do you think it is desirable to state that salamanders and toads were "absurdly supposed formerly to be insensible to the action of fire ?"-^ Considering the popularity of the work, I thought it was worth while to state that. I believe there are persons who entertain that notion even at this moment. I thought it was worth while to correct anything which was a popular error. There was a remark which I heard made, when 1 had the honour of being in this room on Wednesday, with respect to the titmouse. It certainly may sound very ridiculous to call a titmouse a crow, but it is literally matter of fact, and, I believe, the first notice of it was by Charles Buonaparte, Prince of Musignano ; and it is referred t6, I think, by Dr. Richardson, in his Fauna Boreali-Americana. I am very sure that any person who will compare a titmouse and a crow, will find that it is perfectly true, and that in reality, in the essential generic characters there is hardly any dif- ference, and consequently the titmouse is a small crow and belongs to that family. There is another word which I will take the liberty of calling to your recollection. I think you commented on the expression, " swimming bladder ; " I beg leave to state that the term, swimming bladder, occurs in Yarrell's British Fishes, three times in two pages, and in various parts of the work he uses it as synonymous with air bladder; and Dr. Roget has this expression in his Bridgewater Treatise, "A large- bladder, filled with air, has been placed immediately under the spine, in the middle of the back, and above the centre of gravity. This is known by the name of the arr bladder or the swimming bladder." Those, 1 think, are not bad authorities for the use of the word. In Johnson's Dictionary, the word "swim," as a noun substan- tive, occurs, and his explanation of the meaning is, that it is " the bladder of fishes, by which they are supported in the water," So that it seems to be a legitimate term at all events. 3202. Do you think that the description, swimming, correctly describes the ofl&ce of the bladder? — Yes. I do not know whether Johnson does not answer that ques- tion. He quotes, as his authority for the use of the word, Dr. Grew ; he says, " The braces have the nature and use of tendons, in contracting the swim, and thereby transferring the air out of one bladder into another, or transferring it from them both." Now, in point of fact, when the fish is at the bottom of the water, those bladders are, partially at least, empty ; but when it wants to ascend it fills them with air, the fish thus becomes specifically lighter, and ascends to the surface without any exertion of his own. 3203. Now in page 57 is the following passage : " The common angler (lophius piscatorius) has a very large head and capacious mouth, surrounded by a species of long filamentous processes, or tentacula." Are you disposed to adhere to that description ? — It is the fact with respect to the mouth of the lophius, which is very large, and has numerous tentacula attached to the lower jaw, as stated' by Cuviei', who calls them barbillons. 3204. Suppose a naturalist of some standing should say that it is not correct, and that there are moveable spines on the back and on the top of the skull, should you be disposed to reconsider your opinion as a correct description ? — I should be perfectly disposed to reconsider my description, if any sufficient motive were adduced for my doing so. Cuvier mentions two dorsal fins, the first of which has soihe rays detached forwards, free and moveable, on the head. 3205. The SELECT COMMITTEE GN BRITISH MUSEUM. 227 , 3205. The description goes on thus, " It is said to hide itself in the mud with J- G. Children, its mouth open ? " — Not hiding the head in the mud, but hiding the rest of the ^^• body and leaving the mouth open above it. , 3206. The description goes on in this way : " when the fish on which it feeds, ^^ "'"'^ *^2^' deceived by the tentacula, which they take for worms, are tempted tq swim into its capacious mouth, and fall an easy prey." How could that happen if the fish had hid itself in the mud ? — He has not hid himself altogether. Cuvier's words are, (Reg. An. vol, 2, p. 250,) ". On assure qu'elles se tiennent dans la vase, et qu'en faisant jouerles rayons de leur t^te, elles attirent les petits poissons, qui prennent I'extr^mite sou vent elargie et charnue de ces rayons pour des vers," to whicTi his translator, Griffith, adds, •' and thus become their victims," viz. by being swal- Ipwed by the mouth ; for that that is Cuvier's meaning, and not that they are seized or retained in the bronchial sac, is clear from his giving that as another " on assure." The mouth consequently remains open, though all the rest of the animal, except the head, hides, or keeps itself (se tient) in the mud. The only difference is, that Cuvier considers the long detached rays of the first dorsal fin, and not the true tentacula generally, as the bait which deceives the small fry ; and so does Linnaeus. 3207. The Committee, however, understand it to be your opinion, that the Synopsis, in various particulars, requires much revision by the officers? — Most certainly ; it is not a perfect work. Mr. John Edward Gray, called in; and Examined. . 3208. WHAT appointment do you hold in the Natural History department ? — Mr. /. E. Gray. That of extira assistant. __— _— 3209. What salary and emolument do you receive from your office in the British Museum ? — Fifteen shillings a day during the days that I am there, which is five days in the week, and no other emolument whatever. 3210. Is the Committee to understand that it is a system of daily pay which is adopted ? — ^Yes, paid every four weeks. 3211. Will you inform the Committee what are your duties and what particular branch of zoology is immediately under your control ? — My duties are, under the direction of Mr. Children, to attend to the general concerns of the Zoological department, and to name, catalogue and arrange the various specimens. I hav^ sometimes attended to one part and sometimes to another. At the present m07 ment I am more particularly engaged on the reptiles, the fishes, the shells and radiated animals ; but in former times, 1 assisted in naming and arranging the ,ip^ammalia and birds. 3212. Are you employed in forming a catalogue in those departments? — I am «iore especially employed in naming and arranging the specimens, with the inten- tion of cataiogueing them, when so arranged. 3213. Will you give the Committee some idea as to the extent to which you have carried the naming and arranging, as compared with what remains to be done ? — The whole collection is arranged in classes, orders and genera, so that any specimen may be immediately found. The reptiles and radiated animals are named .throughout, and about one-thjrd of the fishes and shells are also named. But we are continually receiving additions, and if our space were enlarged, I am convinced, tfr;om experience, that we should receive more than we do now. New accessions and the advances of science, both in the augmentation of the number of its objects and in the improvement of our arrangement of them, render it impossible that the naming and arrangement of such a collection can ever be said to be finished. 3214. How long have you been employed ?— I thjnk about 12 years. 3215. What has prevented the arranging and the naming of the specimens being completed in that period of time ? — ^They have been once arranged during that period, as far as the space allotted for public exhibition admitted ; but in 1832 they were removed into new and larger rooms, and required a fresh arrangement^ The obstacles to the completion of this have been the enormous number of objects and the interruption occasioned by my attendance upon those who wish to consult me with reference to the collection, and whom I make it a point to see and attend to. 3216. Will you give the , Committee gn instance of the consultation which yoji allude to? — Mr. South, for instance, whom I see present, is desirous of getting materials for a plate for the Encyclopaedia Metropolitana ; he comes and wishes tg inspect certain specimens for that purpose, and his artist afterwards comes to make '479. G G 2 ' drawings 228 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. J.E. Gray, drawings of them. Mr. Yarrell, who is engaged on a' work of British fishes, comes : — to compare specimens from his own collection with those in the Museum. Dr. 24 July 1835. Richardson comes with similar objects, in reference to his " Fauna Boreali-Ame- ricana." Mr. Thompson, of Belfast, consults the collection to aid him in a Fauna of Ireland, which he is about to publish. I could refer to a vast number of of similar instances, but I suppose these, which have suggested themselves to me at the moment, are sufficient. Foreign naturalists and foreigners who are not naturalists, but who require information on the natural history collection,- also occupy a considerable portion of the officers' time, 3217. Do you find such duties materially interfere with perfecting the arrange- ment of the collection ? — Yes, but I do not object to it ; I am never denied, and consider this as part of the legitimate duties of my office; otherwise the collection would lose much of its value. 3218. Would it not be desirable that some one officer should be constantly occupied in arranging the various specimens ? — It might be well so to do, but no other person would be so well able to give an account of the things to anybody who came to make inquiries as the person who had been occupied in naming them, because those who come to make inquiries continually ask, *' Who has written on this subject.?" or, " Can you tell me what has been done on this subject r" and the person who works on the catalogue, having himself studied the subject thoroughly, is the best able to give that information in a satisfactory manner. 3219. But under such circumstances a complete arrangement, classification and nomenclature of so extensive a collection as that of the British Museum, must almost be considered as hopeless ? — We have been working for the last two years as fast as we can, to get it into the state in which it is at present ; but new specimens coming in, will of necessity render it impossible ever to finish it, as they all require additional labour, and when considerable, as in the case of a bequest lately received under the will of General Hardwicke, not only require examining and putting in order, but also render necessary much displacement of the objects pre- viously in the collection. 3220. When you say you have been occupied two years, is the Committee to understand that previously to that time there was not a scientific arrangement for the collection ? — Before that time there were only two small rooms for the zoology) which was then arranged, named, and put in complete order ; but two years ago we moved into the six large rooms which we have at present, and consequently there was a great deal of that work to go over again, besides naming, arranging and inserting in their proper places a vast number of additional specimens. If in a few years we should move again, much of the same work will require revision, with a view to the new arrangement and the progress of science. 3221. Do you not think the difficulty you have stated, with reference to the systematic arrangement of the collection, would be materially overcome if there was a better subdiyision of labour? — Certainly; understanding thereby, if there was rriore assistance. 3222. Now suppose your attention, for instance, were devoted to the shells ex- clusively, what period of time do you think would be required in order to place that collection in a perfect state of arrangement? — It is at present arranged, although not entirely named. 3223. But arrangement apart from nomenclature is of httle value ? — What do you intend by the word nomenclature ? 3224. The Committee would state, that by nomenclature they mean the name, the order and the class of each species } — The shells are arranged in classes, orders and genera in regular order, and to these groups the names are attached ; a great number of them have also the specific names; but there are hundreds of shells not be found in any one book, but which must be sought for scattered through a great number of volumes, and hundreds more that are wholly undescribed. As regards even those species which are described in any single work, Lamarck's, for instance, no man who has any regard for his own credit, or for that of the esta- bhshment to which he belongs, would rest satisfied without referring from it to the original authorities quoted by him, and in many cases, especially as regards English authors, to those which he has neglected to quote or consult. To shoW how impossible it would be to adopt a single work as a guide throughout, I may mention, that we have at least one third more shells than they have in the French museum, on the collection of which Lamarck's work, so frequently referred to as that which we ought implicitly to follow, is chiefly founded. 3225. In SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 229 . 3225. In two pages of the Synopsis I find the following : Persona, Algoa, Cypro- Mr, J. E. Gray. vula, Trivia, Erato, Cymbium, Natica ; are any. of those Lamarck's genera ? — ■ . ' None. 24 July 1835. ,3226. Would it be possible to arrange these genera correctly under any of the iLamarckian genera? — Erato, for instance, has no place in his system. 3227. Has the system of Lamarck certain lacunae that must be filled up, for which he has not provided ? — Many ; he himself found it necessary to alter his system, as he became acquainted with more objects. 3228. Is any particular system adopted in the arrangement of the shells of the British Museum ? — Mr. Children gave me a general permission to use that which I'thought was best ; I have therefore taken Lamarck's as. the basis, and inter- ipolated the genera adopted from other authors, or altered the position of such genera as are now known to have been misplaced in it, and adding such as were altogether unknown to him. 3229. And are the interpolations marked so that the student may know how far the system of Lamarck is adopted, and how far your own arrangement is adopted ? — -Each genus is marked with the name of its own author; thus, those employed ;.by Linnaeus are marked Linn. ; those added by Lamarck, Lamk.; by Montague or Sowerby, Mont, and Sowb. ; and so on with other authors, as is usual amongst naturalists. 3230. But those genera which are not marked with either the one or the other ? — All are marked with the names of their authors ; for if I had myself established a genus, I should put my own name to it. 3231. For that purpose should you think it necessary to consult Mr. Children? — Mr. Children has given me general permission to arrange the collection, leaving the details to my discretion ; but if, on consideration of the arrangement adopted, he were to object to it, I should re-arrange it according to his directions. 3232. But do you think it desirable that any assistant officer of the Museum should have the privilege of acting on his own opinion ? — I do, taking it for granted that he is fit for his office, and subject of course to the general superintendence of , his superior, who is best able to judge how far it is necessary for him to interfere V in the details. 3233. Might it not happen, that in a succession of officers, each officer might , , adopt his own system, and thus almost render a national collection useless } — It must be supposed, that those who are capable of taking charge of such a collection, are capable of forming a judgment as to how far deviations from the systems gene- rally adopted may be necessary or, advantageous. Such changes must of necessity , take place from time to time ; they are the unavoidable results of the progress of science. Were our collections to be now arranged as they would have been by . . odturalists of only 30 or 40 years since, I should be ashamed to exhibit them , to any one acquainted with the advances which science has since made. The ^; Museum of Paris has often been quoted as an example; it is not arranged on any one general system throughout. The Committee would naturally suppose, from the great reputation of Cuvier, and the popularity of his work, the " Rfegne , Animal," that it forms the text-book of the French Museum ; but this is by no means the case. The mammalia, the reptiles, the fishes even, are arranged ac- cording to the views of those who have the charge of the several departments. The reptiles and fishes, for instance, are arranged in the public collection at Paris by M. Dum^ril, who has the charge of that part of the collection, on the principles ,pf his " Zoologie Analytique," and so on with other departments. 3234. Had the arrangement you speak of received the sanction of Cuvier ?— Cer- tainly not ; inasmuch as the arrangement first proposed by Cuvier, in his " Tableau Elementaire," afterwards improved by him in his " R^gne Animalj" and subse- quently modified considerably, and in several parts wholly remodelled in a second v /edition of the latter work, differs from it very greatly. ' 3235. Were you present when Cuyier came to this country and visited the British Museum? — I was; he was constantly with me daring his visits to the Museum. 3236. Did you go over the Museum with him ? — 1 did. 3237. Had he free and unrestrained opportunities of inspecting all the collec- tion ? — Every thing whatever. 3238. Were there not some specimens in the zoological collection which were not shown to Cuvier ?— Not one was kept baqk from him ; every one for which he asked, or which was likely to be interesting to him, was shown to him; and not only go, but facilities were given to him to examine certain specimens not 479. £i o 3 belonguig 230 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. J. E. Gray., bebngmg to the Museum, which I happened to have in my own possession, and ■~~~ ~~ which he has figured in his work. 24 July 1835. ^239, Then, in point of fact, if any report existed that he had not full and entire access to the public collection, it would be untrue?— Untrue, every word of it ; and I will give you his own printed account as the most complete answer to the question. In the preface to the seventh volume of his " Histoire Naturelle des Poissons," referring to his visit to England, he says, " M. Gray m'a fait connaitre, sans reserve, les nouvelles acquisitions du Museum Britannique." I certainlfdid not receive similar facihties when I visited the French Museum, for the purpose of examining the collection with reference to my "Synopsis Reptilium." But for^ this, I must injustice add, that Cuvier was not responsible. 3240. Were you recommended to the English authorities of France ? — It was unnecessary ; I w£ts well known to Cuvier and all the leading zoologists in Paris, and had been in constant correspondence with most of them for some years. 3241. Did you proceed in an ordinary official capacity? — Scarcely in an official capacity; I went as a zoologist desirous of consulting the French like other collections. 3242. Did you take letters from the English to the French authorities? — No; I was so well known to Cuvier, De Blainville, and others, that it was unnecessary. 3243. Did you not then present yourself according to the regular manner? — Certainly. 3244. But you had not provided yourself with letters from the British authori- ties to the French authorities? — Not at all ; had I been even less known to the Parisian zoologists personally, I should have considered my character as a scien- tific man a sufficient passport. 3245. Did you then consider yourself, without providing yourself with official credentials, to stand in Paris in the same position, going to tiie Jardin des Plantes, as Cuvier did here coming to the British Museum ? — Decidedly in the same posi- tion as an officer of the French Museum coming to England. 3246. What attendants have you to assist you in your mechanical labours ?— - I have no assistance but what I can get of Mr. Children's attendant. 3247. Then, supposing you have to name and arrange the shells, do I understand you have to do that with your own hands ? — Every thing is done with my own hands ; I have made skeletons with my own hands. 3248. Have you ever represented to the Trustees the inexpediency of employing time like yours in that way ? — I have never represented any thing to the Trustees ; I felt quite satisfied to assist in any way in the improvement of the collection. 3249. Are you satisfied, as a scientific man, to have to perform that drudgery, when you might employ your time to so much more advantage both to yourself and the public ? — I might have applied for an attendant, but I do not think that a common attendant would be the person who would give me the assistance re- quired. I have often remarked in conversation, that I believe some young men or students might be advantageously employed, but I do not think that a common attendant, a person, for instance, who had been a servant in a gentleman's family, would be useful ; there might not be one in a hundred that would. 3250. But why are you apprehensive of having a servant of a gentleman's family to assist you ? — Several of the attendants have been so, and they are not the kind of people, from their previous education, likely to be useful in the way specified. 3251. How does it happen that attendants have been appointed who are not likely to be useful to the officers in their respective departments ?— I have not said that any such have been appointed ; the attendants are appointed most commonly with a view to the ordinary duties of the house, such as cleaning and »uardin«^, and acting in the capacity of servants ; they are not usually entrusted with duties of higher importance. 3252. In point of fact, are a great numljer of the attendants persons who have held menial offices in gentlemen's families ? — I believe several of them are. 3253. Do you think it desirable that attendants should be appointed from such a class ? — I think they are sufficient for the general purposes for which they are employed, but generally inapplicable to give me any assistance of the kind that I most stand in need of. 3254. Now you were asked whether or not an attendant might be useful to you, and your reply was, that the attendant that might be appointed might happen to be a person not fit for the situation ; will you state why you apprehend such an appointment would take place ? — I do not think that I have been clearly under- stood : SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 231 stood : I mean that if I were to apply merely for an attendant, most probably the Mr. J. E. Gray. Trustees, who have the appointment, would not appoint a person who would be — — — useful to me in the capacity indicated. As I require assistance of a different B4 Jaly 183^. character from that which has been hitherto granted, I have not, while I could perform the duties inyself, thought it consistent with my position in the Museum formally td propose sqch an innovation. 3255- Do you mean to say, that the Trustees, if you wanted an attendant and had agreed to appoint an attendant, would not consult you at all on the appoint- ment ?— They would not consult me, not having any official intercourse with them. 3256. Then your great reason for being contented with your present situation, which involves much drudgery, arises from the circumstance that you apprehend if an aittendatit were appointed it might not be one useful to you ? — No common attendant could be useful to me ; and I will give you another reason ; in doing that drudgery I have observed many things that I should not otherwise have noticed, and have thus added to my scientific knowledge in the performance of an act seiemingly little calculated for such a purpose. 3257. Have you ever represented to the Trustees the desirableness of having an attendant to assist you ? — I have not represented to the Trustees on any matter ; I have often stated my opinion that assistance of a superior description would be desirable ; but 1 believe it was thought that it would not be granted, the Trustees being understood to be desirous of complying with the wishes of the Government to limit the expenditure of all public departments. I give my own labour cheer- fully, and devote my entire time to the collection, being fond of it, and therefore I have been satisfied. 3258. Have you ever personally attended before the Trustees ? — Never. 3259. Have you never been called upon by them ? — Never. 3260. Now, when they make their annual visitation, do they examine minutely the state of the collection ?■ — They geiierally walk through the rooms, look at such things as interest them, and make their observations on the collection. Lord Derby, who is president of the Zoological Society, and takes a great interest in natural history, and others, have spoken to me, but not officially, all official acts being communicated to the department through the secretary. 3261. Do you think such a visitation, so hastily performed, is likely to give any accurate knowledge of the state and condition of the collection ? — It is very difficult for me to say. 3262. Do you think there is any practical use in such a visitation? — I think therfe is ; it is easy for them to see whether the collections generally are in order, and the visitation acts as a stimulus to induce us to get them into such a state ; we look forward to it as to a time when it is desirable to complete arrangfements which m^ight- otherwise be left in an imperfect state, and when specimens taken out from their proper places in the collection for examination must of necessity be returned to them ; we do in fact get the collection into the more complete order in conse- quence. 3263. Do the Trustees-, wheti they mstke their visitation, mark the progressive improvement, or do you point it out to them ?• — I. presume they do ; when any very interesting collection or specimen has been added, I have pointed out the circum- stance to such of the Trustees as I thought it rriight interest. 32G4. Then when you state you look forward to the day, are you quite sure that they will take notice that such an arrangement is completed, or such a catalogue finished ? — It is probable. 3265. Have they ever done it, in fact ? — I have been asked, for instance, by one of them, Lord Cawdor, how I was getting on with the shells ; he takes an interest ih bfrds and shells, and constantly speaks to me upon the subject whenever I ifleet him in the pubhc rooms, on the visitations, or at other times. 3266. Now what period of time have you ever known the visitors spend in you;r department? — I have not always been present when they have been there, and have never noted the time. 3267. Do they do more than walk thrbugh it ?--VVhen I have met them in the public rooms, I have occasionally been spoken to on the subject of the collection. Lord Derby, for instance, has conversed with me on the subject, and Lord -Caw^dor and Lord St. Helens have 'talked to me about the shells, and haive asked me various questions relating to them. 3268. But that conversation had reference to a particular specimen»or particular G G4 shell?— 232 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. /. E. Gray, shell ? — I have before mentioned an instance in which it had reference to the state of the collection. 24 July 1835. 3269. What Trustee was that? — It was Lord Cawdor. 3270. But, speaking generally, how long a time is occupied in making this visit- ation in your department ? — A short time after the meeting of Trustees they go through the rooms, and whenever they think fit, they remain for a time to notice anything that may attract their attention. , 3271. Have you all the facilities you could desire for making the investigation immediately belonging to your department? — I have a room, into which I take the different things and examine them. 3272. Are you furnished with chemical tests to examine shells and analyze them ? — No ; if I wanted such things I should procure them. 3273. In that case the expense would fall on yourself ? — Yes; I might not think it of importance enough to ask for repayment. 3274. Do you not think it desirable that there should be such facilities given to every officer having the care of any branch of the collection? — I do not know that it would be any real benefit, because if a person felt interested in chemistry, he would naturally have the apparatus himself, and would try experiments. And, if you will allow me to reply to a question you asked Mr. Children about the advantages of stuffing birds in the house, and the experiment that might be made for the improve- ment of the art, I do not know any good that would arise from having a bird-stuffer attached to the collection. I think that we have the work better and cheaper done by competition. If we do not find the person we employ stuff well and at a mode- rate price, we go to somebody else. We have found, by experience, that this is the better plan, having given the other plan repeated trials. 3275. Then the mischief would be done? — Experiments might be equally mis- chievous, and endanger the greater part of the collection. We should not employ, or change to, a bird-stuffer who had not a character already established. 3276. Is there any collection in your department which is not exhibited, called the Private department ? — None at all. 3277. And no objects? — No; every thing is exhibited. There may be a few specimens, mostly duplicate or not yet examined, but there is no private collection, nor indeed anything that we cannot immediately refer to. 3278. In the Synopsis it is stated that the principal collection of spiders and insects is preserved in proper cases in a separate room ? — The general collection of these animals is not under my charge ; I only show them sometimes, when the person under whose charge they are is absent. . 3279. Now, for the better preservation or arrangement of your department, have you any suggestions to make to the Committee, or any improvements to suggest ?^ — . I would rather have until the next examination to consider of this question. LuncE, 27* die Julii, 1835, T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Mr. John Edward Gray, called in ; and further Examined. Mr. J. E. Gray. 3280. HAVE you any suggestions to make to the Committee, with a view to the improvement of the department more immediately under your care ; or, to S7 July 1835. speak generally, have you any suggestions to make for improving the collection or administration of the Zoological department? — I would particularly wish to draw the attention of the Committee to one thing, which I think is absolutely necessary for the, improvement of the Zoological department, that is, that the Natural History department should be subdivided. 3281. State the subdivision which you would recommend? — ^The common division into the three kingdoms of nature. Botany has, in the last few years, become a distinct department; and I would propose that Zoology and Mine- ralogy should also be formed into separate departments. I am borne out in the belief SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 233 belief that such division would be beneficial by its existing sometimes to a much Mr. J. E. Gray. greater extent in every foreign collection of importance. The Jardin des Plantes has 13 professors, of whom five have the charge of distinct zoological departments. 27 July iB'^s. In Berlin and at Leyden the zoological collections ara placed under a distinct head, with the title of director, each of the officers under him having the charge of a separate department of zoology. 3282. Is that the only, or have you any other suggestion to make? — Before I proceed to offer further suggestions, I would especially instance one case, in which the public suffer from this want of a defined subdivision. The Committee are aware that Mr. Konig, who is at the head of the Natural History department, lias, in point of fact, the immediate charge of the minerals, while the zoological collections are under the charge of Mr. Children ; but the line drawn between the two divisions is far from definite. The fossils, animal remains, for instance (I allude more particularly to the shells, corals and other radiata), are considered by Mr. Kdnig as forming part of the mineralogy, and consequently if Mr. Lyell, or any other naturalist, comes to the Museum with the view of making com- parisons, he has to apply to Mr. Children or myself to inspect the recent collection, and to Mr. Konig for the examination of the fossil specimens. Much of the interest of each collection is lost, and much additional labour incurred, and many chances of error are produced in consequence of their not being arranged in a 'single series, and placed under the immediate superintendence of the same officer; 3283. How do you reconcile that with your previous suggestion, that zoology should be entirely separated from mineralogy? — The collection of fossils, when arranged as those of the Museum are, in a zoological series, is a part of zoology ; they have only a relation to geology when strato-graphically arranged. 3284. Practically speaking, are not these subdivisions now obtained ? — The ^ mineralogical and zoological collections are arranged separately. ■ 3285. Is not that precisely the object you now recommend? — The line of division is ill defined. The fossil collection of animals is separated from the recent collection of animals, and arranged in separate rooms. 3286. Then are the Committee to understand that the subdivision is carried to an extent at the present moment greater than that which you would recommend ? — At the preseh^; moment the subdivision is unnatural. 3287. But is it-greater in point of number than you would recommend? — My recommendation of a separation into two departments lias reference to their being each placed on an independent footing. At present they are not so, and the kind of separation which exists is in many respects unnatural ; I instance the fossil shells, because the remains of fossil animals belong, in my estimation, to zoology. With reference to the subdivision of the department, I may perhaps be per- mitted further to remark, that one officer having the supreme charge of natural history can take what he pleases ; if he should choose to take the birds along with the minerals, he might do so; whereas if the Mineralogical and Zoological depart- ments were separate, and oiie person had the charge of each, he would do his best for the advancement of that department without interfering with the other. 3288. In stating Paris has 13 divisions, does the witness wish the Committee to understand that there are 13 chiefs of departments? — ^Yes; in the Jardin des Plantes there are 13 chiefs of departments and 13 assistants; and five of these departments relate to zoology. 3289. Under what ordinance of the King does Mr. Gray state that there are 13 heads of departments ? — Partly from my personal knowledge, and partly from a list which will be found in the Almanach Royal of last year. The zoological departments, none of which are subordinate to any other, are distributed as follows: 1st. Mammalia and Birds; 2d. Reptiles and Fishes; 3d. Insects and Crustacea; 4th. Mollusca and Zoophytes ; and 5th. Comparative Anatomy. Each of the keepers of these several departments has an assistant and several attendants,^ in addition to those that clean the room, cases, bottles, &c. 3290. Does Mr. Gray wish the Committee to understand that the 13 heads of departments in the Jardin des Plantes at Paris have each an absolute and inde- pendent authority in their several departments, with power to add to the collections ill each without communication with each other, and directly by application to the Minister of the Interior? — I believe that they have, to a certain extent, authority :to add to the collections in their several departments ; and I think I may say , absolutely, from what I have myself witnessed, that they have. No one head of a '^■479. HH department 234 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. J. E. Gray, department has any direct control over another ; but if the additions were of more ' than usual importance, I presume that the matter would be brought before the 37 July 1835. administration, which consists of the professors, as they are termed, or heads of the departments, and the result of their deliberations would be communicated to the minister. 3291. Would you confine the subdivision of the Natural History department to the three divisions mentioned ? — I do not propose a more minute division, lest it should be thought I was going too far. 3292. Practically, is it not divided now into these three departments ? — The Botanical department was separated, or, I may rather say, was added, when Sir Joseph Banks's collection was transferred to the Museum; but the Mineralogical and Zoological, although apparently to a certain extent separated;, are not suffi- ciently so to insure the advantages which might result from a more complete division. 3293. Practically, does not one gentleman confine himself to the Mineralogical and Fossil department ? — Yes, thus including a part of the Zoological. 3294. The Committee wish to know whether, from the evidence you have now given, you complain of any such interference as is prejudicial to the most efficient discharge of the duty in your own department ? — Decidedly not. I ought to say that I have experienced the utmost kindness from Mr. Konig j he has always shown the fullest attention to my comfort, and has listened patiently to my sug- gestions. It is not therefore from any personal feeling that I thus speak, but from a feehng of what I believe would be beneficial to the Institution, and in particular to the collection of zoology. 3295. Then your present opinions are not founded upon the bad working of the present system, but rather opinions expressed with a view to- improve the existing arrangements ? — I speak of the bad working as far as relates to the progress of the Zoological department. It will be readily understood that a mine- ralogist at the head of a department in which zoology is included, will naturally prefer mineralogy to zoology, and the contrary would naturally be the case as regards a zoologist at the head of a department including mineralogy. 3296. But when you speak of the "bad working" of the present system, in what department do you imagine there has been the most of what you term, bad working ? — I beg to observe that I have only used the expression " bad working " through an inadvertent adoption of the terms of the question addressed to me. As an example of what I mean, it will be sufficient to state that the mineralogical col- lection in the British Museum has been gradually and' constantly increasing, until it has become (as far as I know) the finest collection in the world ; while the zoological collection was for years almost stationary, and has only lately began to expand itself. Had the zoology formed a separate department, I see no reason why it might not have kept pace with the mineralogy. 3297. Will you state why the zoological collection has not kept pace with the mineralogical collection? — I believe that this has arisen in a great degree from its not being independent. 3298. Do you mean to state, that if you had represented either its imperfect state, or the want of fresh specimens, with a view to render the collection more per- fect, that your recommendation, as you were only an assistant, would not have been attended to ? — I did not consider it my duty to make any formal representations on the subject. Of late the collection has been rapidly increasing, and we have taken every opportunity in our power to increase it. We have also adopted from the French, and other continental museums, whatever have appeared to be improve- ments in the arrangement, disposition, and labelling of the specimens, in the con- struction of cases, and in various other particulars. It was no part of my duty to make volunteer representations to the Trustees. 3299. Do you not think that it comes within the rule laid down by the Trustees, that every officer should rather act up to the spirit than to the letter of his instructions, by recommending any improvements in his department? — Decidedly yes. 3300. That being your view of your duty, and having admitted that the zoolo- gical collection is imperfect, why have you not taken advantage of the opportunity you have of making any statement to the Trustees in monthly reports, in order, from time to time, to bring the imperfections of your department under their notice? — In the first place, I beg the Committee to recollect that I hold no appointment, I have no direct communication with the Trustees, and have not even a copy SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 235 a copy of the rules to which reference has been made. But their attention has Mr. J. E. Gray. been called to th^ subject ; several alterations have taken place in consequence, and ' the collections have been rapidly increasing. Our zoological collection has been 27 July 1835. nearly quadrupled within the last four years ; and the extent to which it has risen in public estimation may, be judged of from the number and importance of the presents which have been made to it, and from the manner in which it is now spoken of in the various scientific publications of France and Germany, as well as of our own country. 3301. In what way would a more perfect subdivision add to the completion and perfection of the collection ? — It would be accomplished with greater rapidity. 3302. But why ? — I think good government always leads to improvement ; it would be a better style of government. The exertions of the head of a depart- ment would be less fettered, and he would act with more promptitude and energy when acting on his own responsibility. Division of responsibility leads to uncer- tainty of praise or blame, and may at length lead to indifference to either. 3303. Do you make any reports from time to time to the head of your depart- ment ? — Not to the head of the department ; but I constantly communicate with him verbally. * I report monthly to the Trustees, through Mr. Children, what I have been engaged in since the last report. Mr. Children transmits my report, along with his own, to the principal librarian, and I believe they are then submitted to the monthly meeting of the Trustees. 3304. Have you in any of those communications called his attention to the state of the Zoological department as compared with the Mineralogical depart- ment? — I am not certain that I have spoken to Mr. Konig on the subject ; I have several times mentioned it to Mr. Children, but I cannot refer to any particular times and dates. 3305. Is your belief founded on frequent conversations? — Certainly not, as regards the comparative state of the mineralogical and zoological collections, but I have frequently spoken of the necessity of improving the latter. 3306. Have you formally and officially in any paper recommended an increased attention to the Zoological department? — I have not; it does not come within the scope of my duty. 3307. Now, having stated that the Mineralogical department, which is more immediately? attended to by the head of the Natural History department, is more perfect than the Zoological department, will you state why you have not brought that branch of natural history, entrusted to you, more immediately under his notice? — In addition to the reasons already given, I may state that I have so much to do in bringing the. collection into a proper arrangement, that I find my daily labours are enough to occupy my whole attention ; but from a consideration of the question in all its bearings, I have come to this conclusion, that if the mineralogical and zoolo- gical collections were formed into independent departments, we should improve more rapidly. 3308. If you were to-morrow an independent officer, and at the head of the department now entr■ust^ed to you, what steps would you take to improve that depart- ment ? — The first thing I should ask for would be a grant of more money for the purchase of specimens. I do not mean a large sum, but sufficient to enable me to purchase such objects as might be necessary to fill up blanks in the collection, and as might be offered for sale. I should then, I think, require more space for the due display of the collection; and lastly, I should strongly urge the necessity of more assistance, to enable me to establish a good system of division of labour. Formerly, when the zoological collection was limited to so small a space that we could not exhibit one half of what we possessed, it was of little use to ask for money for the purchase of additional specimens ; but now that we have so much larger space, with a prospect of obtaining still more, I think we may fairly ask for such moderate additional grants as may enable us to make the collection what it ought to be. 3309. Are you aware of the annual sum expended upon the Natural History department? — -we have spent in the purchase of birds and raammaUa, to increase the collection, on an average, 25 /. a year for the last ten years. 3310. In the annual account presented to Parliament of all payments between Christmas 1833 and Christmas 1834, there is found the sum of 702/. 9*. expended on purchases in natural lastory \ will you reconcile that with your former answer ? — I cannot attempt to do so, never having seen the Return. But I was about to continue 'the statement of our expenditure in the purchase of objects of zoology. 479. H H 2 Besides 236 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. J. E. Gray. Besides the 25/. a year for quadrupeds and birds, 57/. a year has been spent, upon an average of the last ten years, in the purchase of animals of all the other classes, 27 July 1835. including shells and corals, and excluding insects and Crustacea. 3311. State to the Committee on what the bulk of the 702/. was spent? — I cannot, for the reason above given. I speak only of my own particular divi- sion, and have not inquired into the expenditure in the other divisions of the department. 3312. You think if you were an independent officer, that there would be a fairer division of the money to be devoted to purchases in the Natural History depart- ment generally ?— If zoology were a separate department, under the charge of an independent officer, there would be a grant for a certain sum for the special service of the department ; the, amount of our funds for the increase of the collection would then be defined, and we should know better how to apportion them. 3313. Would that grant be founded on the reports of the heads of departments or not, do you think? — -Yes; and that is why I wish for the departments to be separated. " In that case the head of the department would send in an estimate for such a sum as he might, under all the circumstances, think reasonable ; the Trustees would recommend such a grant as they might think fit, influenced perhaps occa- sionally by a hint from the Treasury, with reference to the necessity for economy; and the money, if granted by Parliament, would be at the disposal of the officer for the improvement of his department, subject in all cases to the approbation of the Trustees. 3314. Why have you omitted to make such reports, as an assistant-keeper in the Natural History department, to the head of your department ? — I did not consider it my duty to make any report upon the subject. I am directed to report monthly on what I have been engaged in during the month, and I am neither called upon nor authorized to make any other report. 3315. Now, do you not consider it your duty to attend to the following portion of the rules concerning the duties of the officers, viz. " In addition therefore (the Trustees say) to the above rules, it is to be considered as a general instruction to the several officers that they do conduct themselves as become men of honour, integrity, and liberality, in the conscientious discharge of the respective duties of their station, and as men who have the credit and utility of this Institution truly at heart?" — Although I hold no appointment as an officer, and am therefore not even, as I stated before, furnisjied with a copy of the rules to which you refer, I conscientiously believe I have done so. I wish again to state, that I think we require additional assistance in our depart- ment, and for those assistants I would strongly recommend young tfien whom we could bring up. We want them to commence with writing labels, • making cata- logues, &c. They should, be as it were brought up to the business ; that is the mode in which almost all the officers are brought up in the Continental museums, and it is the best way to render them efficient. All the merely mechanical part of the employment being done by the j'oung men, the older officers (who have become gradually fitted for a higher post by the experience which they have acquired in Cue inferior grades) have more ample time for performing that kind of work which requires greater experience and more extensive information, such as determining the nomenclature, settling the mode of arrangement, and superintending the labours of their assistants. Young men thus educated seem to me to be well calculated to become good officers, having acquired during their noviciate habits of industry, experience in the discharge of the duties of the office, and an intimate acquaintance with the collection placed under their charge. 3316. Is it allowed to the officers of the Museum to take pupils ?7-Decidedly not. 3317. What would be your opinion of such a permission? — I think it would not be desirable ; the officers could hardly do their duty both to their pupils and to the collection. I think paid servants are best, and young men at moderate salaries might be obtained, fully capable of giving the kind of assistance to which I have just been referring, if it were understood that those who were best qualified would gradually advance in the establishment, and might become officers ; while others might be recommended to take charge of provincial or colonial museums, or to accompany voyages of discovery in the capacity of collectors. I may observe that these two classes of persons are much wanted at the present day, and that there are very few persons qualified by previous education to hold such offices. Accord- ing to our rule at present, we cannot have gratuitous assistance. 3318. Supposing each head of a department ranked as a professor, took pupils, © and SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 237 and delivered lectures, have you dny opinion to offer to the Committee on such a Mr. /. E. Gray. system? — In my opinion, it is neither desirable in itself, nor would it be fair towards other establishments. There are several establishments in London, where 27 July 1835. lectures are delivered. I will explain by an example what I consider more desirable. Shortly after the London Univer^sity and King's College were esta- blished, Dr. Grant, who is professor of zoology at the former, coming to rpe to consult some specimen in the collection, I took the opportunity of stating to him, that every facility should be given to him if he brought his pupils to consult the collection on private days, when he could demonstrate its , several parts. I also rbegged the secretary of the King's College to make the same offer to the professor of that college. I think that such would be the most legitimate way of making use of our collection as an auxiliary to lectures. A private lecturer has continual inducements to improve his course of lectures ; but if the Government were to appoint a lecturer, it is far from improbable that the very same course of lecture would continue to be delivered year after year, without alteration or improvement, as has been sometimes the case at the Jardin des Plantes. ,3319. The Committee presume there is not a very important class of students to take such a course of lectures ? — The lectures at Paris being gratuitous, there are scarcely any regular students. The Committee may judge by the Gresham lec- tures, which are the only lectures of the same kind in London, that the result in this metropolis would in all probability be the same. 3320. Taking pupils who would be supposed to pay for their privileges, and so increase the emoluments of the officers ; what would yoii say to that? — I have no doubt of its having a very injurious tendency. The officer would be tempted to ' devote his time more to the pupils and to the lectures, than to the business of the Museum. 3321. Could he do that without advancing science? — No ; I think it impossible that a qualified person should deliver lectures to a class of willing hearers, without • producing some good eflfect ; but I do not think that an officer of the British Miiseum would advance the objects of the institution so much by the delivery of a course of lectures, as by attending to the collections under his charge: he could not in fact do justice to both ; either the lectures or the collection must suffer. 3322. State what you conceive the objects of the institution to be? — To en- courage a taste for science among the people generally, and to advance it among those who are more specially to be regarded as men of science and students ; not by giving facilities to one set of pupils in particular, but by opening the collection to all who are desirous of studying it and capable of profiting by it. There is also, in my estimation, another object; viz. to supply a collection of standard authority as complete as possible, which may serve as a model and a guide for all the other similar institutions of the country. For this purpose it ought to be kept, in point . of arrangement and nomenclature, level with the constantly progressive state of iscience. 3323. Have you anything to state on the subject of the Synopsis ? — As regards an objection v?hich I understood to have been made with reference to the account of the marsupial animals, I wish to state that the passage objected to is the simple definition of the group, which cannot be characterized in any other way. I think that it would be false delicacy to exclude the group and its character from the Synopsis, on account of the nature of these characters, which stand in the Synopsis as follows : " The premature production of their young, which in a very early stage of their foetus state pass from the uterus to an abdominal pouch, where, inca- pable of motion and scarcely exhibiting any trace of external organs, they fix them- selves to the mammte of the mother, and there remain attached till they have attained the size at which animals of corresponding bulk are usually born. The pouch is supported by two peculiar bones attached to the pubis, and inserted in the abdominal muscles, and the young animals, even long after they have begun ta run about, on the slightest apprehension of danger, fiy to this natural shelter for refuge and protection, &c." I must confess that I see nothing in this which can offend true delicacy ; similar particulars are found in the commonest elementary books, frequently written by ladies, and placed by parents in the hands of their children without scruple. 3324. What remark would you make on the " cases from 14 to 20 ?" — ^Nothing strikes me at the present moment. S'i'if'i. Should you be disposed to object to their being considered in a state of great confusion ?~If the objection refers to the pachydermatous order being .479. HH3 placed 238 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFOKE THE Mr. J. E. Gray, placed along with the ruminants, I need only say, that those two orders follow each other in the arrangement of Cuvier, in his " Rfegne Animal." 27 July 1835. 3326. Do you mean to say that they are arranged according to the classification- of Cuvier, and in the order of his classification from the first great order down to the last ? — I believe they are, as far as the cases will allow ; our mammalia are at the present moment arranged in such a confined space, that we have great difficdty in ' putting them in regular order. The small specimens are arranged in one series of cases, the larger in another, and the bats in a third ; but all this will be corrected as soon as Ave shall obtain more space, which I hope will very shortly be the case, la reference to this subject, I beg to read the following extract from the Synopsis, p. 22 : " The want of more space in the large cases, has rendered it necessary to place the smaller species of mammalia, for the present, in the upright cases between the windows on the north side of the room." 3327. Will you take this opportunity of making any general remark you have to make on the Synopsis, in reference to your previous examination? — The ques- tions previously asked with reference to the Synopsis were, I believe, asked of Mr. Children, not of me. In reference to the account of reptiles given in the Synopsis, it is an abridgement of the best system hitherto published : the generic characters of most of the leading groups are given in it, as well as some remarks on their habits. In the account of the British shells, there are some original obser- vations on the changes which shells assume in different situations ; and in the notes on the general collection of shells, there is an outline of the arrangement of the molluscous animals, derived from personal observations, and containing many new facts. 3328. The Committee are to understand then, by the answer you have given,, that you are responsible for this part of the Synopsis? — Not entirely; I wrote it, but it was revised by Mr. Children. Several objections were taken to the account of the fishes given in the Synopsis. In that part of it there is hardly a word that was not from Cuvier's " Histoire Naturelle des Poissons," and the last edition of his " Rfegne Animal," which contain together the best and most recent arrange- ment of the genera of fishes. I may add, that I have little doubt that if any per- son will take the trouble of comparing the Natural History portion of the Synopsis of our Museum, confined as it is in space, with M. Delauze's account of the French Museum, in two octavo volumes, he will find as much information on the classifi- cation of the objects, condensed into the small compass of our Synopsis. 3329. Are there many passages translated literally into the Synopsis, from Cuvier ?-— I would not say absolutely literally, but very nearly literally ; and those relative to the fish, almost entirely. 3330. Is there a passage in p. 20, the second sentence, beginning, " The latter differ from, &c." translated literally from Cuvier ? — In enumerating the characters of the group, as given almost in the same words by all modern authors, I believe it is ; it is essentially the same, if not literally so. 3331. Would it not have been desirable to have acknowledged the authority of Cuvier for that description ?— I do not think that in such a book as the Synopsis of a museum, intended more for general readers than for men of science, it is necessary to particularize from whom every description is taken, or in what cases the descriptions are original. It would occupy much space, and would distract the attention of the general reader, without conveymg any information for which he seeks. But I think it is said, " the fishes are arranged according to Cuvier." 3332. Is it stated that the descriptions are taken generally from Cuvier?— The statement that this part of the collection is arranged according to the system of Cuvier, implies that it would have been wrong to reject his characters, when we could not give better. As regards the Synopsis in general, allow me to say, that although it has undergone a material change for the better within the last few years,, I still consider it capable of much improveriient. It has long been my opinion that we should have two different kinds of Synopsis, adapted to two very different classes of visitors ; one for the ma§s of the people, who come from mere curiosity, giving a general view of the arrangement of the subjects in the different rooms, and , pointing out the more remarkable objects by which they are likely to be interested. This should be adapted in size to the shortness of the time whjch this class of visitors, who now crowd the Museum in vast numbers, can generally afford to devote to its inspection, and in price to the means of all ; it should consequently be much smaller and much lower in price than the present. The other, I think, should give fuller and more detailed explanations of the collection and its modes of SEUECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 239 of arrangement, with' the addition of more or less (as might be judged expedient) Mr. J. E. Gray. of that which usually forms the systematic part of elementary works. 3333' Have you any further observations to make ? — No other observations on ^7 ^"'y ^^35- this subject occur to me at present. 3334- Will you inform the Committee whether you have examined any cele- brated Continental collection of shells, and if so, what opinion you have formed of the value and importance of that in the British Musuem, as compared with those you have had an opportunity of visiting elsewhere? — I should say that the collection of shells in the British Museum is far superior, as regards the number of species, to ^ny other public collection that I have seen ; still I should say that it is very poor in comparison with what I could wish to see it, and what in point of fact it might be made with no very great expenditure of money. 3335- What foreign collections have you had the opportunity of inspecting ? — Almost every year since I have been engaged at the Museum, I have made it my business, during the month's vacation, to visit one or more of the principal museums of the Continent, for the purpose of studying their collections, and ob- serving their different modes of arrangement, and the plans adopted in each for the exhibition and preservation of their specimens. I have been five times to Paris, twice to Leyden, twice to Frankfort, and once to Berlin, and have, as far as possible, visited all the smaller public and private collections that were to be met with on my route on these various occasions, as well as on other journeys to the Continent. SSZ&. And it is your opinion that the collection in the British Museum far exceeds any of those specified ? — As regards shells, undoubtedly, I can give the Committee the numbers'of three of these coUectioris from oflBcial documents or from recent enu- meration. The Museum at Paris contains, according to the official report furnished last year to the minister, 1,230 species of mollusca and zoophytes. The collection of shells alone in that of Berlin is stated in professor Lichtenstein's Guide to that collection, to contain 1,150 species. And on a late visit, Mrs. Gray enumerated . the species of recent and fossil shells exhibited at Leyden, and they amounted to 2,700 species. In the British Museum there are exhibited 4,025 species of recent shells, besides a considerable collection of fossil ones. 3337. Such being the extent of the collection, will you now state whether you conceive it possible, or at all events desirable, to adhere strictly to the Linneean, the Lamarckian, or any other system, for the arrangement of the classification ? — I do not ; I . think that it is desirable to adopt the best system of the day and to make progressive improvements. TheLinnaean system, as regards shells, is no longer in use. Various improvements had been made in it prior to the time of Lamarck, who first reformed the arrangement altogether in his " Syst^me," correct- ing and extending his views in his " Extrait d' un Cours," and making further alter- ations in his " Histoire Naturelle." In the new edition of this work, now in the course of public3,tion, many new genera established by himself and others have been added by M. Deshayes ; and many other genera are established from time time which it would be both unjust to their authors, and injurious to the progress of science, not to admit. In consequence of the greater attention which has lately been paid to the animals inhabiting shells, many errors have also been de- tected in the position of genera, the animals of which were formerly unknown or known imperfectly ; and these it is important to correct, in order to remove false impressions. 3338. Is the Committee right in understanding that in the arrangement of the collection you have followed Lamarck's system as far as that is found to hold good, due regard being had to discoveries that have since been made, and errors which have been detected subsequent to the publication of that work? — Ex- actly so. 3339. In affixing labels to the specimens recently discovered, do you adhere to the names assigned to such specimens by the individuals who may have described them ? — ^Yes, that is the system of nomenclature we universally adopt in the Mu- seum, taking care, however, where the species have been misplaced hy their first describers, to refer them to the genera to which they really belong. 3340. Is it not usual with the conchologists of the day to communicate their discoveries to the public through the medium either of scientific publications or societies ? — Yes ; and it is in consequence imperative on the persipn who has charge of the naming and arranging of any collection to consult those publications, 479. H H 4 ^" 240 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. J. E. Gray, in Order that he may be able to keep the collection on a level with the knowledge of the day. :, 27 July 1835. 3341. The claim of priority of discovery being established, is it not considered^ a wanton infringement of the privileges of the discoverer for any one to alter the names given by him, unless a very substantial reason be given for such alterations ? — Certainly it is, to alter them capriciously ; and it is therefore more espe- cially the duty of a person in charge of a public collection to be extremely scrupu- lous in the adoption of names, in order that he may not, through negligence or want of proper caution, be led to commit an injustice himself, and to sanction it in others. 3342. Although scientific societies are not responsible for the opinions of those who send communications to their meetings, yet does not the publicity given to such communication by their proceedings and transactions challenge the detection of error if such should exist ? — Undoubtedly ; and as regards errors or supposed errors in this nomenclature of the collection at the Museum, I may observe that it not unfrequently happens that I receive information that such and such a specimen is wrongly named ; in such cases I must either prove that the name is rightly applied or correct the error, and I am always pleased when such applications are made to me, as they furnish a proof of the interest taken by the pubHc in the collection. 3343. Is an individual justified in naming specimens without introducing them to the scientific world by a public description, and can he, in case his nomenclature be questioned, establish his claim to original discovery ? — I think not; although the exhibition of a specimen with a name attached to it in a public collection has been considered by some naturalists as a suflScient publication ; and I must confess that in some cases, as for instance where there is reason to believe that the de- scription afterwards published by another has been taken from the specimen so exhibited, or that the subsequent describer has been led to separate the species, or the group designated, in consequence of having seen them separated in the collec- tion, there appears to be just grounds for refusing him the credit which is really due to the individual from whom he has borrowed all but the mere description. 3344. Such being the established practice of the day, do you consider you are better consulting the interests of the Museum and the progress of science in com- municating to the public the latest discoveries by means of the labels affixed to the specimen, than if you were to endeavour to bring the whole collection under one definite system? — Certainly; the objects of such a collection are, I think, best advanced by keeping it up with the state of science for the time being, and I have always acted, to the best of my power, upon this conviction. 3345. The Committee find in the Transactions of the Zoological Society two new species of lingula, two of orbicula and one terebratula, described by Mr. Broderip and by Mr. Owen; should you consider such authority sufficient to justify you in adopting the nomenclature there laid down 1- — Undoubtedly, in the instance quoted ; but it must be left to tiie judgment of the officer who has charge of the collection, whether the reasons given for the establishment of genera or species are sufficient to justify his adoption of them. There is one test of the value of such divisions, the importance of which is universally admitted, while it is seldom that an opportunity is given to apply it ; I mean the placing in the National Collection type specimens of the objects described, authenticated by their authors. Such • specimens, with the names attached and so authenticated, would always remain open to future investigators, and would supply the deficiencies which occur even in the best figures and descriptions, and which, by rendering doubtful what has been done before, contribute much to embarrass science with repetitions of the same object under new and varying names. 3346. Can you give the Committee any idea of the rapid increase of discovery in this branch of natural history ? — It is unnecessary to search for examples of the rapid strides that conchology is yearly making. As long ago as 1825, I published a list of 420 species of shells which were not contained in Lamarck's work ; and the increase since then has been most rapid. I will take some of the genera of his book, and compare them with the present state of our knowledge on the subject, not selecting those which have been most extensively added to, but such as appear to present a fair average increase. Thus of the genera Cyprasa and Ovula, he describes 100 species : in my recently published Synopsis there are described 174. Of Terebra he described 22 species : in a monograph of 'the genus which I have lately given in the Proceedings of the Zoological Society, I have described 45, most of which are in the collection of the Museum. But to give some idea of the enormous SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 241 enormous increase of some genera, I may state that he describes six species of Mr. J. E. Gray. Chiton, and that I have upwards of 100, arid know many more. To state the facts — in a summary way, Lamarck describes 4,000 species of fossil and recent shells ; 27 July 1835-, and I can refer to printed or manuscript descriptions of fully g,ooo. The cata- logue of a private continental collection, that of Dr. Menke of Pyrmont, published in 1830, enumerates about 1,800 species, of which, besides a considerable number described by other authors since Lamarck, 100 are there described as altogether new; and more than 200 genera are indicated which are not to be found in Lamarck's book. ' 3347- Oan you inform the Committee of the number of new species of shells described in the Proceedings of the Zoological Society in the yearns 1832, 1833 and 1834? — Yes; in 1832, 251 species of shells were there described as new, including three new genera; in 1833, 164 species and two genera; and in 1834, 198 species and three genera. During the same period a considerably greater number of other species were described as new in other works published in this country, on the continent, and in America. 3348. Such being the rapid increase of djscovery in this branch of Natural History, lis it your opinion that the collection in the British Museum could be arranged under any existing system ? — Certainly not ; if no additions or altera- tions were to be permitted, 1 do not think that it would be conducive to the progress of science to cbnfine the officers to any one published system. Scientific students, the only ones to whom minutiae of arrangements can be considered as important, adopt for their own use various systems, according as chance, taste, or judgment may influence them. Many of these, if they all look for the adoption of their favourite system in the Museum, must of necessity be disappointed. But to make the collection equally intelligible to all, it is only necessary to place the names of the genera conspicuously at the head of the columns in the cases which contain them, and to give a good index to the genera in the Synopsis. 3349. In the case of a student wishing to consult a collection in the British Museum for the purpose of making himself acquainted with any one system of conchology, do you not think you confer a benefit on him in pointing out the defect of his favourite author, while at the same time you retain what is really sound, and combine v^ith it the more recent discoveries of the age ? — Undoubtedly, and a great benefit. 3350. With regard to the discoveries that have been alluded to in shells, do the Committee understand them to be discoveries of new species or new genera ? — New species and new genera both. 3351. Will you distinguish between the numbers of the two? — Certainly. In the 613 species described in the Proceedings of the Zoological Society for the years 1832, 1833 and 1834, there were eight new genera; and during the same period of time many other new genera had been established in other vvorks, both in England and on the Coniinent. I before remarked that Menke, in his cata- logue of shells, indicates 200 genera not in Lamarck. 3352. In the early part of your examination to-day, you stated you regarded the naineralogical collection of the British Museum to be the first in Europe ; do the Committee understand you to say also the collection of shells is the first in Europe, as far as you know ? — Certainly, the most numerous and best of any published collection, as far as I know. With regard to the mineralogical collection, I said that it was the first in Europe, as far as I was aware. I have never seen the collection at Vienna, not having been able to reach that city during my vacation. It is certainly much finer than any other that I have seen. 3353- And your duties in the Museum are connected with the department of Natural History ? — Yes ; Mr. Children has intrusted to me the general super- intendence of the Reptiles, Fishes, Shells, Annelides and Radiated animals. 3354- What should you say as to the zoological collection ? — I can give the relative numbers of the fishes as compared with several foreign collections ; the British Museum comes next, I believe, to the museum at Paris, and it is superior to that of Paris in the number which are exhibited. The fishes, which are exposed to the public in the Paris Museum, are arranged according to the method of M. Dumeril,; they form only a small part of the actual collection of the - museum, the great mass having been placed in M. Cuvier's private apartments, to facilitate his researches when engaged in studying them for his work. Tlie latter remark applies also to the collection of mollusca in spirits, which ftave however been ti'ansferred to the public collection since M. Cuvier's death. 479. I I 3355- Is 242 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. J. E. Gray. 3355- Is it superior to the collection" of Berlin ? — Far superior to the collection at Berlin in the number of species of fishes. Professor Lichtenstein states, in the 37 July 1835. Guide to the museum, that there are 740 species at Berlin ; in Paris there are, according to the enumeration sent to the minister, 4,700 ; in the British Museum we have 1,031. 3356. Can you afford the, Committee any information respecting the collec- tion of radiata in the British Museum ?— I should say that it was certainly the richest of any collection I know ; but I do not think it is by any means so rich as it ought to be, considering it as a national collection, or as rich as it might be made, if we had a larger grant for the purchase of objects, and more room for their exhibition. 3357. Your answer has reference not to its absolute perfection but to its comparison with other collections? — Yes; as I have already stated, we have many more species of corals and corallines than I have seen anywhere else ; and the same holds good with the shells. But although we have more that '4^000 species of shells in the collection, we have not half the number of species, of the existence of which I am aware. I know at least 9,000 species, and there is no reason why with sufficient funds and attention to the state of the market for such objects, we might not procure by far the greater part of those which we still want. Of reptiles, I may say the same ; we have more species in the Museum than I have seen in any other single collection, and yet I have described in a synopsis of that class, which is at present in the course of publication, mqre than double the number which we possess, a considerable part of the additions being from other English collections. There are certainly more opportunities of obtaining new subjects in all departments of zoology in London than in any other part of the world. Many of the finest specimens that ornament the continental museums were purchased in this country ; and in further proof of the superior facilities for forming collections in London, I may mention that, within the first two or three years of the existence of the Zoological Socjety's Garden in the Regent's Park, there were exhibited in that establishment more species of living animals than are recorded to have beem possessed by any similar institution on the Continent in ten times the same number of years. 3358. Do you think the Government might render much more assistance than it now does in respect of increasing and perfecting the collection of the Natural History department ? — ^My answer to this question, will hardly refer to the Exe- cutive Government generally ; for I do not ask for the kind of protection which is granted in France, for instance, where all the smaller local collections have been taken possession of by the Government, and distributed among the favoured museums, the duplicates alone being distributed in return ; but I do not think that the Admiralty, the Colonial Office, and I might add the Foreign Office also, affi)rd us the assistance which, as the National Museum, we have a right to expect from them. When collections are made by expeditions sent out by the Government, I think that the specimens brought home should be sent to, the Museum ; but this has rarely been done. I will give the Committee a few instances of the neglect of which I complain. A large collection of birds was a few years since brought from the northern regions of America by the expedition under the direction of Capt. Franklin and Dr. Richardson, by whom it was placed at the disposal of the Colo- nial Office. Not a single specimen collected in that expedition has been sent to the British Museum, although most, if not all, the specimens would have beeij desirable for the collection. I will give Dr. Richardson's account, in his published work on the Ornithology of those regions, of the mode in which these specimens were distributed : " The fists," he observes, " are subjoined, that the ornithologist may know where to find the specimens described in the following pages." These lists are headed as follows : " Presented to the Zoological Society, by order of the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies." Then follow a list of 130 birds: |' Presented to the Museum ,of the University of Edinburgh :" Here follows the list of 86 species, males, females, and often their young. Lastly come "12 specimens sent to the Plymouth Museum, pursuant to His Majesty's commands," and between 70 and 80 species presented to a naturalist who assisted in editing the works, " by permission of the Right Honourable the Secretary of State for the Colonies." The specimens collected by (3apt. P. P. King, in his survey of the southern extremity of the American Continent, and those collected by Captain Belcher, in Captain Beechey's voyage to the North Pacific ocean, were presented to the Zoological Society. On the return of His Majesty's ship Chanti- cleer, SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 243 cleer, from a scientific expedition in 1831, notice was sent to the Museum that Mr. J. E. Gray. there were some zoological specimens brought home by that vessel at the — — — Admiralty. I immediately proceeded thither to make inquiries, and saw Sir John 27 July 1835. Barrow, who said, " You cannot have them until the Secretary of the Zoological Society arrives." Half of the specimens were given to the Zoological Society, and half to the British Museum, the Society having, I think, the first choice. I beg that it may be distinctly understood, that I make no remark relative to the Zoo- logical Society from any feeling except that of duty towards the British Museum. I have taken a deep interest in that society since its very commencement, having been one of its earliest members, and knowing ho\y greatly it has promoted the advancement of zoological science. What I wish to impress upon the Committee is simply that the British Museum, being a national institution, ought at least to have the first choice when collections have been made at the expense of the nation. There may have been a time when sufl&cient care was not taken of some parts of the collection, owing chiefly to the want of sufficient space for their accommodation ; but that reproach has long since been removed. The French Museum has funds granted to it for the employment of no less than eight travelling naturahsts, from whom it derives its principal accessions of new and interesting objects. In addition to the support thus afforded,, and to the collections made in the voyages of geographical discovery, which are equally the property of the Museum with those formed by its own travellers, instructions are given to the consuls and employes of the Government in all parts of the world to assist in for- warding the objects of the Museum. That our consuls are actuated by feelings for the advancement of science, which might be materially improved for the ad- vantage of the British Museum by a mere hint from the Foreign Office, is suffi- ciently proved by the fact that many of them, with a zeal worthy of all praise, and deserving of general imitation, have busied themselves in procuring, at great pains and expense to themselves, specimens of living animals for the Zoological Society. Amongst these I may mention, as names which occur to me at the moment. Sir Thomas Reade, consul at Tripoli, Mr. Drummond Hay, consul at, Morocco, Mr. Willshire, consul at Mogadore, Sir Robert Ker Porter, consul at Caraccas, and Mr. Hearne, consul at Hayti. I do not ask for any violent appropriation of col- lections made by individual officers or bodies of officers ; far from it, for I am convinced that such proceeding would not only be unjust in itself, but detrimental also to .the interest of science ; but what I ask for is, that we should receive from the various departments of the Government, which have it in their power to forward our views, such proofs of good- will as would ensure to us the same feelings on the part of the officers employed by them. 3359. Knowing that these various collections made by officers in His Majesty's service, and under the authority of Government, had been appropriated to various private bodies, why did you omit to lay such a statement of facts before the Trustees of the Museum, with a view to prevent the like appropriation of public csollections in future ? — I have protested again and again, in general Conversation, with all those with whom I thought it might have weight, against such an appro- priation ; but, as I have before stated to the Committee, I have not considered it a part of my duty to volunteer representations on any subject to the Trustees. 3360. Did you ever represent it to the head of your department? — Not offi- cially. I have spoken with Mr. Children on the subject, and he has occasionally made individual representations at the Government offices, but with little success. For instance, on hearing that a gentleman, who was a good naturalist, was about to proceed to New Holland in the capacity of colonial surgeon, an application to the Colonial Office was met, I think, with the answer, that in that case they had no influence. Mr. Children has also applied to the Admiralty for the appointment of a naturalist to accompany a voyage of discovery, but his request was not attended to. It may be right to mention that we have occasionally received presents from the officers at the head of these departments of the government. Lord Stanley, for example, when Secretary of State for the Colonies, sent us some edible birds'-nests, which had been forwarded by Sir Wilmot tlorton from Ceylon, and other presents have been made to us under similar circumstances. But there has been no steady and uniform manifestation of a disposition on the part of the authorities of these departments to secure to us all the advantages which, as a national establishment, we ought to possess in connexion with the influence of the Government. 479- 113 244 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J.G. Children, John George Children, Esq. called in ; and further Examined. . 3361. DO you conceive it possible to arrange a collection of zoological subjects 27 July 1835. i" such a way as to be at the same time useful to a student in the science of zoology, and attractive in appearance to the public at large? — Yes. 3362. What arrangement do you suppose would be most suitable to meet such views ? — I should think a well arranged coUectiori would necessarily be attractive ; it requires no meretricious ornament, nothing beyond the objects themselves, and their being well arranged ; I do not know what other attraction I could give them. 3363. There can be no doubt that a collection such as that of the British Museum, if arranged in strictly scientific order, would be beneficial to the students? — Yes ; and in point gf fact it is so arranged now, although not so fully named as would be desirable, for want of strength to do it. 3364. While you were employed in arranging the collection in scientific order, did you keep distinctly in view at the same time the making it attractive to the general observer? — Not further than distinctly exhibiting the specimens ; there has been no particularly ornamental way of exhibiting them ; that has not been considered, nor do I well know how it could. 3365. Do you think it would be inconsistent with science to arrange the speci- mens in such a way as to give a slight notion of the habits of a family? — Does the Committee mean by putting them in natural positions? 3366. Yes. — It might certainly be done, though it is not in general done ; the effect would depend on the skill of the artist. 3367. Would it not lead to some knowledge of the organs which constitute peculiarities of habits ; as for instance the prehensile tail of the South American monkies ? — Certainly it would. 3368. Do you or do you not consider that the^best knowledge of animals, so far at least as their characters are concerned, is to be obtained by examination of the skin, or other parts of the animal, which lead to their particular classification ? — Certainly. 3369. Do you think that in a collection of zoological specimens, such as that which the British Museum ought to be, it would be highly advisable that each class, order, tribe, and family, should have displayed, in the case or cases allotted to it or them, the organs on which their several divisions are founded ? — There could be no objection to that ; on the contrary, it would tend to make the collection much more instructive, and I would have the names of the orders added also. 3370. Do you consider it possible that such arrangements Could be made in the collection of natural objects at the British Museum with perfect success, in the present buildings ? — That will depend on whether the nev/ buildings will afford space enough ; if so, certainly. 3371. Have you had any communication with the architect on that subject? — - I have not. 3372. Do you not think it important that -the officers of the Museum should be brought into contact with the architect, with a view to the future best exhibition of the objects of natural history ? — I should think so. I have received some infor- mation, but I have had no communication with the architect, nor have I been consulted respecting it. I do not in fact exactly know where our collections are to go. 3373. Supposing such an arrangement of the collection as that previously alluded to were made, do you not think it would increase the interest now existing among all classes of society, in reference to natural history ? — Certainly ; the more clear and distinct the arrangement, the more attractive it will be, and necessarily also more instructive. 3374. Do you not think it ought to be, in any future arrangement, the object to make the collection of the animal kingdom in the British Museum coincide with these views? — Certainly. / 3375. Can you anticipate that you will be able to realize these views, without any knowledge of the arrangements making by the architect ? — It would be more desirable to know them exactly. I cannot tell, from any information I at present possess, what space will be allotted to us. I believe that side windows have been determined on instead of skylights, in consequence of an opinion I once expressed to the secretary, Mr. Forshall, of the superiority of the former. 3376. Is there any general classification adopted throughout the collection ? — The modern classification adopted in the birds is Temminck's, with the intercalation of SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 245 of such new genera as may be from time to time establislied ; and with respect to j.G.CMldren, the names, I have generally preferred giving the oldest ; for instance, the modern Esq. genera (as Cuvier's, &c.), with the Linnasan specific names in Latin ; and for the — ~" ' English names I have taken Latham's, as far as the species were known to one or ^"^ ^"^^ ^^35- the other. When a species was not known either to Linnasus or Latham, then the more modern name must be adopted. 3377. With regard to the beasts, whose arrangement do you take ? — Cuvier's. 3378. With regard to reptiles? — Mr. Gray has paid more attention to that subject. (Mr. Gray.) — It is arranged on the basis of Cuvier, with the interpolation of the Hew genera, as published in Griffith's Translation of Cuvier. 3379- Will you state to the Committee what proportion of the zoological subjects in the Museum is actually named at the present moment? — I do not know that I can state numerically exactly how many ; but the mammalia, which are arranged according to Cuvier, are mostly named. The birds of the British collection are almost entirely named ; there are very few that are not. The collection of eggs is entirely named ; the general collection of birds is in part named, but not the greater number of species, for that has been very much increased lately. General Hardwicke's bequest has added very largely to it, and the necessity of getting them into their places as quickly as possible has impeded the progress of naming the others. As to the reptiles, the whole of the tortoises, crocodiles, and lizards are named ; the principal part of that collection is in spirits, and what I have said has more particular reference to them. 3380. Are the specimens in spirits numerous ?— Yes, a very fine collection. Mr. Bell spoke of it as one of the finest collections that he knows o^. 3381. Are there many specimens at present liable to be spoiled for want of room ? — Not one. 3382. You lost a great number before the new building, did you not? — Yes, a great many. What state they were in when they came to us is more than I can tell; they came before I went to the British Museum ; they" were stowed away in a damp room. At that 'time the Museum was in a very different state to what it is now. 3383. Did the decay to which you have referred originate from two causes ; first, the imperfect accommodation which the Museum afforded at that time, and secondly, the imperfect manner in which specimens of natural history were pre- served? — Yes, that is the fact; they were deposited in the only place where they could be stowed away ; that is, in the danap rooms of the basement story. 3384. In reference to your statement on the subject of the plans of the Museum, and the accommodation to be expected for the different collections in the new buildings, in respect to which plans the Committee understand you to have stated you did not receive any communications from the Trustees or other officers of the Museum, did you at no time receive any written communication from the secre- , tary, or did you at no time see the plans of Sir Robert Smirke before they were adopted? — I have seen the plans of Sir Robert Smirke in the secretary's hands; but I was not consulted by the Trustees nor by the architect, as to any suggestions for the arrangement of the zoological collection, 3385; Could you not, at the time when the new buildings were in contempla- tion, or before they were commenced, have stated to the Trustees the general extent of accommodation which would be required for your department? — It would have been very difficult to do that before any part of the building was . aerected, because such a large quantity were then stowed away in places inaccessi- ble as to any useful purpose, that I could not at that time have offered anything lika an estimate that could have been depended ori, of the space that might be necessary. 3386. Then in the event of your having been consulted, you could not have . given a detailed specification of the space which you would have required ? — Certainly, I could not. 3387. Was it not generally understood that the northern division of the new building was from the first to be appropriated to the Natural History?—! did not understand so until comparatively very lately; I cannot exactly state when I received that communication. 3388. Can you inform the Committee whether the general pl^n of the new buildings was adopted by the Treasury independently of the Ttustees of the . 479. 113, Museum, 246 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J. G. Children, Museum, or adopted by the Museum and recommended to the Treasury? — That •^^' I cannot answer. 3389. You have stated you have many objects of natural history preserved in 27 July 1835. spirits?— Yes, of reptiles. 3390. Where are they deposited ? — In the proper cases. 3391. Are they open to public view ? — Yes, every public day. 3392. Accessible to the principaMibrarian at all times of course ? — Yes, acces- sible to the public on public days. 3393. And accessible to the principal librarian at all times of course ? — Yes, he has the master-keys. ^ 3394. Then should the following question have been asked of the principal librarian, and the following answer given, can you account for the statement made ? Question 243, addressed to Sir Henry Ellis, is as follows : " Have you not speci- mens of various animals preserved in spirits in the British Museum ? — We may have a few." — As a few are contained in a great multitude, it is a fact, and not otherwise; Mr. Gray has just informed me that there are not less than 5,000 or 6,000, and I believe there are many more. 3395. Now in reference to the nomenclature of the specimens which are named, do you know whether the name of the author whose nomenclature is used is attached ? — In most cases I think it is, and it must have been unintentional when it has been omitted. For instance, the name of Cuvier, or rather the abbreviation Cuv., is attached, supposing, his generic name be adopted at the end of the hnej and the same is the case with the specific names, as Linn, for Linnseus, and Lath. for Latham. It is a principle unquestionably right, and always intended to be adopted. In some cases, in the hurry, it may have possibly escaped. 3396. You# opinion is, then, that it would assist the student if the generic and specific name applied to any individual specimen by such zoologists, as Linnasus, Cuvier or Ray, were attached to each specimen ? — Certainly, and not confined to their names only, but the name of any person who may first have published and described any specimen should be added. 3397. In fact, the zoological nomenclature, in consequence of the increased acquaintance with the science, has been so much altered that it would be difficult, would it not, for students to ascertain the name of an animal in the Linnaean arrangement, without such name being appended ?^ — Certainly. 3398. What is your opinion as to the propriety of using the scientific or trivial name or both on the labels attached to the various specimens ? — I think there can be no question that both should be attached, and I would even extend it to more than merely Latin and English, I would have French and German also, making it as extensively useful as possible ; the scientific name in Latin, and the trivial names in their respective languages. 3399. Are you aware that in Dr. Leach's time, and also for a subsequent period, the specific name, together with the English, German and French trivial names, were attached to many animals in the collection ? — The birds had theirs attached by Mr. Konig, not by Dr. Leach ; Mr. Konig was employed for a considerable time in removing the names which Dr. Leach had put to them ; Dr. Leach was very fond of giving names of his own, which nobody else knew ; this was com- plained of as perplexing the student, , and Mr. Konig with great labour and trouble took those names away and applied the modern pubhshed names in their stead, adding the German names also. 3400. In what state is the nomenclature at the present moment, as compared with the state in which Dr. Leach left it ? Is it more or less perfect ? — I consider it much more perfect, because I consider his plan was a bad one, inasmuch as he re-named almost every thing, and made a vast number of subdivisions, which not being generally known, as many of them were merely in MS., confused rather than assisted the student. 3401. Has it ever occurred to you, that besides the specimens which are stuffed, and publicly exhibited, it would be advantageous to have unstuflfed duplicates kept in cabinets for particular examination ? — It would be exceedingly useful, and most desirable to have them. 3402. Have you ever made that the subject of a monthly report to the Trus- tees ? — No, I have not, because I was well avvare that any measure tending to create additional expense could not be sanctioned, as the Trustees would be fearful, under the situation of things at present, of applying to Government for the neces- sary means ; for that reason I did not think it right to do so. 3403. Do SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 247 3403. Do you not think it desirable that the officers should state all their J. G. Children, wants, and leave the Trustees to the discretion of applying to Government ? — Esq. Perhaps they should ; but I was so certain that it would not be complied with, that I did not think it worth while to trouble them on the subject. < ^'^ """^y ^^35" 3404. Do you mean by saying you were certain of that, that you considered there was an indifference on the part of the Trustees to the formation of a pevfect collection ? — Certainly not ;■ but that the Trustees themselves would not have felt it right to apply to Government for those funds which would be necessary, under the present state of public affairs. 3405. Do you not think it desirable that the ofKcers of the Museum should throw the responsibility of the imperfections in the collection on the Trustees, rather than take them on their own shoulders ? — I should be unwilling to throw any unfair responsibility on the Trustees. 3406. Do you think it an unfair responsibility that the Trustees should be made distinctly responsible for the wants of the Museum, when they have been fairly made known to them ? — No, I do not. 3407. In point of fact, is not that part of the discretion, with which they are invested ? — It is, certainly. 3408. In reference to the duplicates alluded to, would not this proceeding, if adopted, be highly, beneficial to the zoological student in particular ? — Certainly ; it would enable him to study characters which cannot be so well observed in the stuffed specimen. 3409. Do you think any material difficulty would arise in taking care of such a collection for reference and study ? — None ; no difficulty whatever. 3410. Now as it is well known that the more delicate colours of the plumage of birds, for instance, fade by exposure to light, do you not think a duplicate collec- tion, carefully excluded from the light, would be highly desirable ? — Yes, certainly; such a duplicate collection as has been mentioned would answer that purpose. 3411. You have no such collection in the Museum at present? — ^There is not. 3412. Do you not think that in such a collection as that of the Museum, the changes occurring from difference of age, especially in birds, should be shown by specimens exhibiting such change, and would not such a collection be likely to assist materially in determining disputed species ? — 'Most undoubtedly ; and it would be an exceedingly important thing to establish such a collection, if possible. 3413. You have no complete catalogue of the zoological specimens of the British Museum ? — There is not. 3414. Are you aware of this catalogue, published by the College of Surgeons? — [llanding a catalogue to the Witness.'] — No, I am not. 3415. Do you think there would be any difficulty in preparing a similar cata- logue of the department of Zoology ? — None. 3416. What are the obstacles at present existing to the formation of such a catalogue? — Merely expense, I suppose. When I say expense, of course it would be necessary to have additional strength to do all these things, and that is one essential part of the expense. I think that catalogue, as far as I can form an opinion from the very cursory glance I have just given it, excellent. 3417. Are there not numerous systematic writers, by following whom a very useful catalogue might be made ? — Yes, there are. 3418. Do you think any difficulty to the future arrangements of the entire ■zoological collection could possibly occur, by giving a number or name, or both, to every animal in the collection, corresponding with a numbered catalogue, in which the synonyme of each individual should be noted ? — It would be very useful, anjd I see no difficulty in it ; and Mr. Samouelle has begun, and proceeded pretty far on a catalogue of insects very much on that plan. 3419. Looking at the question as a mere matter of profit and loss, do you think stich a catalogue, if published, would meet among scientific persons with such encouragement as would compensate the expense which must necessarily be in- curred, in its formation? — I am not competent to give an opinion worth having on that subject. I can only say I should hope it would, for assuredly it would be a very useful thing. 3420. Seeing that it might be objected to, that such a general catalogue would be so expensive as to rendec it. above the means of common purchasers, do you see any objection to its being divided into distinct parts, each of which should contam a single class, and be sold separately or as a whole, at the option of the buyer . 479. 114 ■'■ ®^® 248 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE J. G. Childrerti I see no inconvenience in that, and I tliink it would be a good, and by far the most Esq. feasible plan. ■ — ' 3421. Do you see any reason why such a catalogue of the animals in the British 37 July 1835. Museum, properly classed, should not be as acceptable to the zoologist as the " Hortus Cantabrigiensis," and " Kewensis," is to the botanist ? — None. 3422. Do you know whether the catalogue of the College of Surgeons, to which the Committee just drew your attention, has any sale or not ? — No ; I did not know it was published. 3423. You have already said you deem it a most useful publication ? — From what I have seen, I should say most useful, and the part I have looked at seems admirably done. 3424. Supposing such a catalogue were desirable, would it not be better to wait, until the collections are in a more perfect state ? — I should think it would ; at least, until the new building allows of a more complete arrangement. 3425. In reference to that question, are you aware that the catalogue of the College of Surgeons, just placed in your hands, which is yet incomplete, has been proceeded with undfer more unfavourable circumstances as regards the want of room, than any catalogue which might be made of the collection in the British,. Museum ; and do you therefore think there would be more inconvenience in making a catalogue of the present Museum collection, and in arranging it at a future time by that catalogue, than there is likely to be in the future arrangement of the catalogue of the Museum in their new building? — No, I do not; at the same time I adhere to my former opinion, that it would be better to wait, before it is published at least, inasmuch as that would enable you to add in anything that may be received in the meantime ; and I would certainly prefer waiting until the new rooms are ready to receive the collections j you may get on with the catalogue, in the meantime, if there be given sufficient strength to do so. 3426. How soon do you expect that to be? — I must refer that to those who; know more of the matter than myself: Mr. Forshall says it will be about two years. 3427. Do you think it advisable that a book should be kept in which a list of all new purchases and presents to the Museum should be entered, and that each specimen on its reception should have a provisional number given to it, corres- ponding to a number in the entry-book ? — That is done in some measure ; but the numbers are not put. 3428. It is not put down systematically? — It is not done so completely as it might. 3429. What is your opinion of that? — I think it would be a good thing to do it. 3430. Do you not also think that at the same time a memorandum should be made as far as possible of the locality from which such specimens have been ob- tained ? — Certainly ; and it would be a very good thing to attach the locality to the labels also. 3431. Would not such an entry-book be a check against the loss of any speci- mens ? — Certainly. 3432. What has been the practice on this point at the museum of the Linneean and Zoological Societies, as far as you are aware ? — I cannot say ; I doubt very much whether they have followed that system ; but I do not know. 3433. The Zoological department being entrusted to yourself, together with, three assistants, Messrs. George and John Gray and Mr. Samouelle, do you con- sider that number of persons sufficient for fully performing the duties which so valuable a collection as that at the British Museum ought to be and requires? — Certainly not; in fact, it is impossible with the strength that we have now ever to get it into that state that it ought to be in. 3434. Are you aware of the number of professors in the Natural History de- partment in the Jardin des Plantes ? — I know they are large, but not the exact number. 3435. Are you aware of the constitution of that institution? — No, I have paid very little attention to that ; I was very seriously ill at the time I was last in Paris,, and notwithstanding Cuvier's kindness, I could do nothing. 3436. On the assumption that that institution is directed by a board of scientific men, are you aware that there would be any practical objection to such a system ? — '^o. 3437. You SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 249 J. G. Children, Esq. 37 July 1835. '. 3437- You never heard of any objection when in Paris ? — Certainly not ; I be- lieve it works very well ; but I cannot say that of my own positive knowledge. 3438. Your attention was drawn on the last examination to a passage at the bottom of p. 19 in the Synopsis, " Amongst the monkeys are the ourang-outang, or man of the woods (^Simia Satyrus, Linn.), which of all animals is con- sidered to approach nearest to man in the form of the head, size of the forehead, and the volume of the brain ;" do you adhere to the former opinion you expressed on that ? — I have not referred further to it since, but I should be inclined to do so. 3439- Are you aware of a paper written by Mr. Owen on the comparative osteology of the ourang-outang and the chimpanze? — I have not read that paper. 3440. On the assumption that Mr. Owen's opinion differs from yours, should you be inclined to adhere to your former opinion ? — I should be inclined to consider my own opinion was probably wrong, as I have the highest respect for Mr. Owen's talents and acquirements. I beg leave to add, that on reference I find I took the passage from the " Rfegne Animal." Cuvier says, " L'orang- outang (Simia Satyrus, L.) passe pour 6tre de tous les animaux celui qui ressemble le plus a I'homme par la forme de sa t^te, la grandeur de son front, et le volume de son cerveau." — (Vol. 1, p. 87.) I beg leave also to state that the passage respect- ing the chimpanze {Simia Troglodytes, L.), which was commented on at my former examination, is likewise taken from Cuvier, who says (Vol. 1. p. 8g, R. A.), "II habite en Guinee et au Congo, vit en troupes, se construit des huttes de feuillages, salt s'armer de pierres et de batons, et les emploie k repousser loin de sa demeure les hommes et les 616phants.'* Edward Hawkins, Esq. called in ; and Examined, 3441. WHAT appointment do you hold in the British Museum ? — I am keeper E. Haiekins, Esq. of the coins, medals, antiquities and other works of art. - 3442. What is comprehended under the term " works of art," as contradistin- guished from coins, medals and antiquities ? — Things of a more modern description, such as paintings; the drawings and prints are included in my department also; and a number of other works of art which are not naturally attached to any other department. 3443. Does it include the dresses of different nations now exhibited ? — Those are in my custody ; but for want of proper space, they are kept in that part of the building which is generally appropriated to natural history. 3444. W^ill you state to the Committee the duties required of you by the Trus- tees ? — The duties are to take care of all the objects in the department ; to see that they are properly arranged, and in such a manner as to facilitate access to them by the public. 3445. What is the salary, and what are the emoluments derived from your office ? — The salary is 200 1. a year, with 75 I. a year for each day that I am engaged in the week beyond two ; I am also allowed stationery to the amount of 5 /. a year. The salary is altogether 425 /., besides the stationery. 3446. Are there any emoluments indirectly derived by you as keeper of the antiquities ? — None whatever. 3447. Had you any situation in the Museum, before you were appointed keeper of the antiquities ?— I was first engaged to perform Mr. Combe's duties, during his illness ; I was then appointed assistant-keeper of the department, on the death of -Dr. Noehden ; and subsequently keeper, on the death of Mr. Combe. 3448. Had you made antiquities generally, in the sense in which the term is used in the British Museum, your pursuit or study previous to your first appointment ? — My pursuit as matter of taste, not as a profession. 3449. Have you not written some work on the subject of coins ? — I published with a prefixed general historical sketch, the description of the Anglo Gallic coins, which had been commenced by Mr. Combe. 3450. Had you not published some work previously ?— No, not published ; I had collected and arranged considerable materials for an account of the medals illustrative of the history of Great Britain and its dependencies. 3451. Have you ever edited or written any work on the antiquities of the Museum ?— A description of the cinerary urns, which was also commenced by Mr. Combe, 3452. Have you published any popular account of the antiquities, similar to that published of the Elgin marbles, by Sir Henry Ellis ? — No. 479. K K 3453' How 250 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKE^^ BEFORE THE £. Hawkins, Esq. 3453. How did it happen that the publication alluded to was undertaken by Sir Henry Ellis, it being a description of objects in your department ? — I really do 27 July 1835. not know. 3454. Was it with your consent and approbation ? — It was without my know- ledge. 3455. Can you state to the Committee whether the work which the last ques- tion has referred to, be a work published by the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge ? — Yes. 3456. In other words, it is a work which any individual equally competent might have written, without any infringement of the right of another person ? — Yes ; it is a work undertaken by Sir H. Ellis, without any reference to his official situation in the Museum. 3457. Who is the editor of the publication called *' A Description of the Col- lection of Ancient Marbles in the British Museum ?" — The different parts have been published by different persons. The earlier parts were published by Mr. Combe ; one part has been published by myself ; one by Mr. C. R. Cockerell, and another now in the press, is by myself; this last part is in fact printed, and in the hands of the binder. 3458. Are. you paid for that by the Trustees, independently of your other salary ? — No. 3459. That is a duty undertaken by you in the discharge of your duties as keeper of antiquities ? — 'Yes. 3460. Have you any assistance in preparing that work for publication, or in the editorial part ? — No ; except occasional conversation and consultation with my colleague, Mr. Barnwell. 3461. Since yeu have been keeper of the antiquities, whenever a collection of classical antiquities has been offered for sale to the Trustees, have you been con- sulted ? — Yes, that is the practice. 3462. And you have made a report to the Trustees in consequence? — I should say, almost always. 3463. Have you valued such collections in a pecuniary point of view ? — It is my business to make myself acquainted with the value ; but 1 do not however depend on my own judgment, but obtain the opinion of any such persons as are accessible and most competent to form a judgment on that point. 3464. Is it any part of your duty, for instance, to decipher and publish the Greek inscriptions, or the hieroglyphics in the various specimens of Grecian or Egyptian antiquities ? — It is no part of my business to explain or to decipher them, further than may be necessary to acquaint the public accurately with the objects deposited in the Museum. My business is rather to arrange everything so as to facilitate the access of persons who make it their business or pleasure to study such things. 3465. Who arranged the Athenian marbles in the new Elgin room ? — The arrangement of the marbles has been generally superintended by Mr. Westmacott. 3466. What situation does Mr. Westmacott hold in the Museum ? — None ; but as an artist of eminence, he has been for many years consulted with regard to the arrangement of the marbles. 3467. Has the arrangement then been made simply with reference to taste rather than to such arrangement which an acquaintance with the country or classical authors would suggest? — Very much as a matter of taste, but not exclusively; we have several collections, such as the Townly marbles, Elgin marbles, the Phigalian and a few miscellaneous ones ; the Elgin marbles are kept together in a gallery by themselves; the Phigalian and the Townly marbles are also kept by themselves. The Elgin marbles have not been merely arranged with regard to taste, but they have been arranged according to the relative situation they had in the building ; so also have the Phigalian. 3468. Did you take any part in those arrangements ?— Merely as consulting with Mr. Westmacott on the subject. 3469. What separate descriptive catalogues have you of the marbles and other antiquities ? — No printed catalogues but those published in the quarto volumes before referred to, and in the Synopsis. 3470. Is there no catalogue of the gems, for instance ? — There is a manuscript catalogue of the gems. 3471. And SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 251 3471. And of the coins ?~Not of the entire collection of coins, but of far the JB. Bawkins, Esq. greater part of them, and the catalogues of the remainder are in progress. L 3472. Is there not a catalogue of the Greek coins? — Yes; Mr. Combe's 27 July 1835. catalogue of the collection , as it existed 'in his time, and Mr. Knight's own catalogue of the coins he bequeathed to the Museum have been printed. The catalogue of the other.portion is in manuscript. 3473. Is there any portion which have, not been examined and described, for instance ? — No, not any. ' 3474. They are all known and have all been examined T— They have all been examined. 3.475' Do you consider the department wholly and entirely under your control, or do you, as in the case of the Natural History department, devote yourself more particularly to some subdivision of it ? — The whole, with the exception of the con- tents of the print-room, are under my own immediate superintendence. 3476. Do you consider yourself responsible for the contents and safety of the prints in the print-room or not? — I have some difficulty in answering that question ; I have a. limited responsibility not easily defined. 3477. Practically speaking, you mean that Mr. Ottley, who is in that room, is the head of an independent department?^ — I should not say of an independent department ; the print-room is attached to the department of Antiquities, but it is under his special superintendence, and he is chiefly responsible for the contents and good management of that room. 3478. You do not consider yourself responsible either for the arrangement or custody of the prints ? — Not any farther than in case anything was going on wrong it would be my duty to interfere and have it put right. 3479. As the nominal head of the department? — As the head of the department. 3480. What would be your opinion of making that a separate and independent department? — That is more a question for the Trustees. 3481. The Committee ask you your opinion from your own experience, with a view merely to obtain information ? — If it was made a separate department it must be enlarged as to the expenditure beyond what its present state requires. 3482. Why should there be an increased expenditure because the officer placed in charge of it was made the head of the department ? — Because in all departments there are more officers than one, that one may relieve another in case of emergency. 3483. "in what way do you mean? — Supposing one officer was ill, or was necessarily absent, then there is another officer to take his place and to see the public are not materially inconvenienced by that absence. 3484. Would not such an arrangement be in the power of the Trustees equally, even though the department of Antiquities was divided into two great divisions ? — It would be difficult, and there would be great inconvenience and inconsistency in letting any individual interfere in a department with which at other times he had ROt any connexion ; it would also destroy the responsibility which ought to attach to all heads of a department. 3485. Practically, you do not interfere? — Except in cases of emergency. In case of a long illness of Mr. Ottley, it would be the duty of Mr. Barnwell or myself to take such measures with regard to the print-room, as to prevent the public from being inconvenienced in a greater degree than would necessarily arise from the circumstances. 3486. Supposing the department to be erected into an independent one, would not the assistant, in that case, to Mr. Ottley be naturally the person on whom such dutv would devolve ?. — Certainly. ? 3487. Do you see any practical objection to the breaking up this depart- ment of antiquities? — There is no connexion between the print-room and the department of Antiquities which makes it necessary that they should be united together ; it has been rather a matter of convenience and economy than any thing else. 3488. What is the name of your assistant at present? — Mr. C. F. Barnwell. 3489. Was he appointed subsequent to yourself? — Yes, he was. 3490. Who appointed him ? — The three Principal Trustees. 3491. By whose recommendation was he brought under the notice of the Trus- tees }■ — 'That I do not know, r<» • 1 3492. Were you consulted previously to the appointment ?—Certianly not, 252 MINUTES OF- EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE E. Hawkins, Esq. formally. I think I had some conversation with the Archbishop of Canterbury on ' ' the subject, bul it was shght. S7 July 1835. 3493- Is it the- habit of the Trustees before they make such appointment to consult the heads of departments ? — I should think not. 3494. Do you not think it would be desirable that the patronage of each depart- ment should rather be placed in the hands of the heads of departments than in the hands of the Trustees ? — No, I should think not. 3495. Do you not think the head of a department wduld be a better judge of the qualification of his assistant generally than the Trustees could possibly be, without consultation with the head of that department? — I think there are incon- veniences attending it that would make it not advisable. 3496. Will you state what are those practical inconveniences? — I think an individual would be more subject to partiality; and I think that there would not be that independence between the two officers that there ought to be, if one was the proteg6 of the other ; and I think it would be rather open to jobs, more so than if the patronage was kept out of the hands of the department. 3497. Have all the coins presented to the Museum by the late King been exa- mined and catalogued ? — They were all catalogued before they came to the Museum, and the catalogue has been verified with the coins themselves since they arrived. 3498. With reference to the statuary, both ancient and modern, under your care, what is the regulation with regard to artists, with reference to the perpiission to study or to take moulds ? — The two things are separate with regard to admissions to study. Any young man bringing a letter of recommendation, containing his name and his address, and signed by any person of a permanent residence, to whom we could refer in case of the young man misconducting himself, is immediately admitted ; and with regard to the casts, special permission must be obtained. 3499. From whom ? — From the Trustees. 3500. Are you aware that attached to the Louvre is an individual who spe- cially superintends the taking of casts, and giving facilities to the artist for that pur- pose ? — I am not aware of it; every facility of that kind is given here which can possibly be given anywhere else. 3501. Do you mean if any of the publishers of the cheap casts that are carried about the streets by Italian boys were to apply for permission to take moulds, that they would be permitted to do so under proper superintendence ? — No ; by my recommendation they certainly would not. 3502. Why ? — Because when a mould is once made, from which casts can be multiplied at pleasure, I do not think it would be right to suffer the marbles them- selves to be submitted to further operations of that kind. 3503. Are there such moulds existing of all the finer statues in the British Museum ? — Of many j not of all. 3504. In whose hands are those moulds ? — Most of them are in the hands of Mr. Westmacott. 3505. Are they in the hands of Mr. Westmacott in his private capacity, or in the hands of Mr. Westmacott, who is in some degree attached to the Museum ? In his private capacity, subject to certain conditions of being pledged to supply casts at particular prices, at the order of the Trustees. 3506. Who has laid down the price at which the casts should be supplied?— I fancy it was a matter of arrangement between Mr. Westmacott and the Trustees at the time they were taken ; it was before I became attached to the Museum. 3507. Have you any official paper or document to which you can refer the Committee, in reference to that question ?— I know that there is a document, as far as concerns a portion of the Elgin marbles. I do not know whether I can lay my hands on it. 3508. Can you refer the Committee to any individual who can ?— I should think it is among the archives of the Museum. 3509. Will you make inquiry and furnish the Committee with a copy of the scale of prices determined on between Mr. Westmacott and the Trustees on the one hand and the public on the other? — I will. — [Vide Appendix, No. 30.] 3510. Do you conceive there can be any objection to moulds being made of all the finer statues in the British Museum, and sold about the streets, if you please, by the Italian boys ?— I should not think it advisable to repeat frequently the making of moulds from the statues; but when once the moulds are made, the more common the casts become, the better. 3511. Do SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 253 3511. Do the Committee understand that, in your judgment, the repetition of r Ha-wkins Esa the moulds from the ongmal statues is attended with injury to such originals ?— ' L The repetition of moulds from the original is attended with danger, and there- 27 July 1835. fore moulds should not be multiplied unnecessarily ; but to the multiplication of casts from those moulds, and dispersed to the utmost possible extent among the people of the country, there can be no possible objection. 3512. Are you aware how far any facility is given in the Louvre, or in the Vatican, to the artist in making moulds? — I am hot at all aware of what their arrangements are. I may say this generally, that at the Museum no obstacle is thrown in the way of making moulds beyond what the absolute preservation of the object requires. ,3513» Supposing Sarti, who is a great publisher of these casts, was to* apply at this moment to the Trustees for permission to take moulds, what would be their answer? — Mr. Sarti having been employed by Mr. Westmacott on all such occa- sions, and being known as a skilful and careful person, I have no doubt leave would be given to him to make moulds. 3514. Would the Trustees order Mr. Westmacott, for instance, to allow him the use of his moulds free of expense ? — I do not know how far that can be ; the moulds were made at the expense of Mr. Westmacott, subject to a condition. 3515* Why should the Trustees privilege one person, and one person only, to possess these moulds, and therefore confine the public to one source for the casts ? — I do not know that they have precisely given to Mr. Westmacott an absolute rqtotiopoly, but they have considered it advisable not to subject these objects to frequent moulds without Mr. Westmacott's sanction and superintendence. 3516. But practically it is a monopoly, is it not? — I should say not practically, because casts have been allowed to be taken for other persons. 3517. The Trustees have permitted others to take moulds ? — Certainly. 351 8. State the names of such persons who have taken moulds since you have been keeper of the antiquities ? — I know that some casts were taken for Lady Charlotte Bury and two or three other persons. Sarti has been employed ; and there is an- other Italian artist, Mazzoni, who has been employed. — [.See Appendix, No. 31.] 3519. How does it happen, since there is so great a sale for casts throughout the country, as is evinced by the number of persons employed in selling them, and there being this facility which you state to existin the Museum for obtaining moulds, that so few artists have applied for the purpose of obtaining them ?■ — That I can- not tell. 3520. The Committee is not to infer, therefore, that there are difficulties in the way of making these moulds from such non-application ? — Certainly not. 3521. Are not artists allowed to model in the British Museum? — Yes; the restriction is only as to moulding from the original statues. 3522. The casts which are in general circulation throughout the country are generally casts of casts ? — ^They are generally casts of casts. It would ' be well worth while for one of those Italian artists to get a cast of any fine object to mould from, and they do so ; they have some of the finest of Chantrey's busts ; they buy the cast, and from that cast they make a mould, and from that mould they multiply casts again, so that they are copies of copies. 3523. The Committee find that attached to the Royal Museum at Paris there is a formatore, or mouldei' ; do you see any reason why such an officer should not exist at the Museum, with a view to supply the public cheaply and accurately with casts, and at the same time to take moulds with care ? — Practically, I think that is the case with us. 3524. But as the great object of such a collection of antiquities is to diffuse a correct taste, would it not be desirable to throw every possible facility, not to say inducement, into the arrangements of the Museum ? — Yes, consistently with the safety of the objects. 3525. Were there an established moulder, there can be no doubt the safety would be secured ? — I will not quite say that, because by multiplying moulds, under the most careful hands, it still may be injurious to the original statue. 3526. It would scarcely be necessary to multiply moulds, when the moulds, being in possession of the Trustees, were allowed to be used until they were worn out by applicants ? — There could be no objection to that. 3527. Do you consider it would be worth the while of an Italian to take copies of the original size ? — I have no doubt it is not worth his while, or he would doit. * o -r^ 479. K K 3 3528. Do 254 MINUTES OF E\aDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE E. HaiJiUns, Esq. 3528. Do you think he would obtain an extensive sale, for instance ? — I conceive ■ that he would not, because he does not do it ; Sarti can do it at any hour, and he 27 July 1835. is a dealer in those things ; he knows he would not find his account in it, 3529. Do you not know that in Sarti's room there are very large casts ? — Yes; but I know Sarti has facility to make any mould he pleases, and as he does not make them, I conclude he does not find it to his account to do it, otherwise he would do , it : all I wish to establish is, that there are no obstacles in the way of its being done. 3530. With regard to the exhibition of medals, have you ever turned your attention to such a mode of exhibiting them so that they might be made practically useful to the public, and yet.be exhibited in perfect safety? — I have so far thought of it, that I think it would be an exceedingly good thing when we have~ space to do it, to make either a selection from the coins themselves, or to procure casts of them, so as to give a general view of all the coinage of the world from the earliest times to the latest,' which would be quite sufficient for all purposes, proper explanations being inserted in the Synopsis ; but at present we have no space for anything of the kind. 3531. Are you aware that at Paris casts of the medals are exhibited? — I have heard that it is so. 3532. Have you seen the collection ? — I have seen it very partially, and many years ago. 3533. Have you ever turned your attention to any mode of exhibiting the m§dals themselves on both sides at the same time with perfect security ? — I have thought of it, but it would be so great an undertaking that I think it would scarcely be practicable. 3534. Why do you consider it so great an undertaking ? — It would occupy so large\ space. 3535- Have you ever taken the trouble actually to calculate the area that would be required for the exhibition of a given number of medals, so as to exhibit them in the order and for the purpose you have described? — No, I have not; merely because, knowing we have not space to devote to that purpose now, it was premature to enter into any such calculation. 3536. Supposing a room were devoted to the exhibition of the medals, and constructed entirely with reference to that object, do you conceive that there would be anything impracticable in some such plan as this ; having up* right frames in which the medals might be inserted and locked, and protected from the public by glass on each side, so that by walking between these frames the public might fairly view the whole or a selected portion of the collection, whilst the collection itself would be in perfect security ? — I have not considered the practi- cability of such a plan, on the ground that it would be at present impracticable to do it in any way until the new buildings are completed. 3537. With reference to the new building, have you ever been consulted by the architect as to any necessary arrangement for the exhibition of the antiquities in your department ? — Frequently on those parts that have been erected since I be- came the head of the department, but the whole plan of the Museum was com- pletely made under the superintendence of the Treasury, before I became an officer of the Museum. 3538. As far as you know, your department was never con§ulted as to the best arrangement of the rooms and of light with reference to the best exhibition of antiquities ? — I cannot say what took place with regard to Mr. Combe. 3539. You have never been consulted individually yourself, have you ? — Ex- cept as to those parts which have been partially altered since I came, upon that Sir Robert Smirke has occasionally had communication with me. 3540. Has the original plan been altered at all to accommodate it to the exhi- bition of the antiquities of your department ? — Yes, the rooms that are at this moment fitting up were originally intended to have been one room, and it was to ' have been lighted in a different manner ; the lighting and division of the room have been since made partly at my suggestion, or at least after consultation with the secretary and others. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 255 Mercurii, 29° die Julii, 1835. T. G. B. ESTCOURT, ESQUIRE, IN THE CHAIR. Petro Angel Sart'h Figure-maker and Moulder generally, 92, Dean-street, Soho, called in ; and Examined. 3541. HAVE you ever been employed to mould any of the statues or works of Petro Angel Sarti. art in the British Museuni ? — Yes. 3542. How did you obtain permission to do so? — I used to apply to some 29 July 1835. gentleman to write to the Trustees. 3543. And did you obtain permission with perfect facility ?— I never tried myself ; I used to apply to some gentleman of rank. .3544. Why did you never apply yourself? — I was told that they would not allow the permission unless the application was made through a person of rank ; that was the reason. 3545- Can you tell the Committee who informed you of that ? — No, I cannot. 3546. When you moulded from the statues there, were you ever called upon to pay any fees ? — No. 3547. You have had some communication with the Trustees ; have you never applied to the Trustees ? — To the Trustees, and then the Trustees used to write a note to the gentleman to apply to Mr. Westmacott for permission. 3548. Did you ever apply to Mr. Westmacott ? — Always. 3549. What facility did Mr. Westmacott give you ? — Sometimes he used to deny it ; not everything ; he denied me a few things in two or three cases. 3550. Has Mr. Westmacott the moulds of any of the statues or works of art in his possession ? — He has the moulds of the Elgin collection. 3551- Who made those moulds? — It was a person named Mazzoni. 3552. Have you ever been able to use those moulds with a view to making casts for sale ? — At the first, when I used to cast them for Mr. Westmacott, the moulds were in very good condition, but now I do not think they can be used, to tell the truth. ^S53- Have you ever offered to purchase, or has Mr. Westmacott ever offered to sell these moulds to you ? — About 1 5 months ago he wanted me to buy all the moulds and to make them good again. 3554. What was the sum for which he wished to sell those moulds ? — £.350. 3555. What were the particular works tkat you wished permission to mould ? — It was at the time the Consul of Prussia, Mr. Brockardt, gave me a list to mould three or four things there, and among these was the bust of Clytie. 3556. And you could not obtain permission? — I could not; and there have been two or three cases of that kind ; one was a bas-relief, by a person living in Grafton- street East j Mr. Belmes had the permission from the Trustees for Ihat, and I do not know whether he was refused by Mr. Westmacott or Mr. Combe, but I heard that he was denied the having it. 3557" If you had the means of moulding figures or bas-reliefs, under proper superintendence, so that the originals- should not be at all injured, and you could obtain them at any time for the supply of any customer who might ask you for such casts, do you think the sale of such works of art would be materially , increased ? — Many of them, I should ; of many of the things that are there, I should. 3558. Had you not once permission to make a mould from the head of Homer? — I had a permission, and that was refused to my face; that was refused by Mr. Westmacott. 3559. Be so good as to explain to the Committee how you obtained permission to mould the biist of Homer ?— I asked Mr. Lennard, m.p. if he would write for me to the Trustees of the British Museum for the bust of Homer and two or three other things; when the Trustees wrote to Mr. Lennard, the permission was granted ; there was another letter to apply to Mr. Westmacott ; when Mr. West- macott saw the thing I was to mould, he would not let me mould the bust of Homer. That was in the time of Mr. Combe, and at first he said I^ should do it, 479. . K K 4 ^"^ 256 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Petro Angel Sard, and then afterwards, when I went there, Mr. Combe would not let me do it ; he said he had the order from Mr. Westmacott not to let me do it. Then I applied 29 July 1835. to Mr. Lennard again, and Mr. Lennard sent a note to Mr. Westmacott, and after that I was sent for to mould the bust. 3560. Did you find the cast from the bust of Homer sell well when you had obtained it? — l^old 80 the first month. 3561. And supposing you could sell good casts from other statues in the Mu- seum, do you think you should increase your trade materially ? — Some busts would sell materially, some very likely might not sell enough to clear expenses ; but many gentlemen would wish for a bust, when another would not. 3562. Is there an increasing demand for busts, of good masters r — Yes, and statues when they are good. 3563. Do you find the public taste improving in that respect ?— A great deal ; I sold more statues this summer, than I did for the last three summers together ; so that there must be more improvement. 3564. Were thosd copies from antique statues you had so much demand for? — Yes. SS^o- Were many of them copies from figures in the British Museum?— I have not many from there. 3566. Were they generally the size of the originals ? — The size of the originals. 3567. For what species of works of art do you find the demand most active ? — ■ They vary very much ; some will buy the naked statue, such as the Gladiator and Laocoon ; another party likes drapery figures ; there is not one particularly in demand more than another. 3568. There is a beautiful bust in the Museum, one of the Townley marbles, which rests upon the flower of the Lotus ; supposing you could obtain a gODd cast from that bust, do you think that would have an extensive sale? — That it would. 3569. Then if you had free opportunity to take moulds from any statues which you think likely to obtain a sale among the public, do you think that you would materially increase the sale of such statues ? — To be sure I should. 3570. And do you not think if that were done, the public taste would be im- proved materially by it ? — Really I do not know about that ; but I know they would sell a great many. 3571. Would not the sale be an evidence of improvement of the public taste.-* — I should say it must ; because if they buy the things, it must be a proof of the taste for them. 3572. And in those cases in which you have obtained casts from the originafe of some of the most popular statues in the Museum, you have found the sale very extensive ? — ^Yes, whatever I have done. 3573- Supposing you were freely penmitted to make moulds from such statues as you chose to select in the Museum, should you have any objection to enter into a proper security to prevent the originals being injured? — I think I could give plenty of reference to people who know what I can do about that ; Sir Henry Ellis has seen me mould for 20 years, without any accident occurring. 3574. Do accidents ever happen when a moulder is pretty v/ell instructed in his trade ? — Not if the moulder is well informed. 3575- Supposing you had free permission given to you to take moulds, should you have any objection to give a money security for any injury that might be done to the statues ? — I could find somebody to be security. 3576. Do you consider any sum of money would recompense the Trustees of the British Museum, for damage done to the Townley Venus, or any other cele- brated statue in the collection ? — I should not think it would ; but there would not be any injury of that kind j the Townley Venus has been broken one time by moulding, the fingers of it. 3577. The probability of injury done to the statues would depend of course on the skill and care of the person permitted to take the moulds, would it not? Certainly. 3578. And in the case you mention, must he not have been an unskilful artist? — It was before my time, and before I came to England ; a person of the name of Papera did it. 3579. That damage done, must have grown wholly out of his unskilfulness .?— Yes, he broke the finger ofi". 3580. And from carelessness ? — And from carelessness. . 3581. Did SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 257 3581. Did it happen in the Museum? — Yes. p, . ,5 ,. 3582. Have you ever had an accident yourself ?— No. i-e tro Angel ba rtu 3583. And you have moulded from many of the principal works of art there, 29 July 1835. without the personal superintendence of any one ; have you not ? — I never had any person superintending ; Mr. Westmacott niay have called, or such a thing ; but he has passed a fortnight without looking on. 3584. Have you been entrusted by private individuals with valuable works of art to take moulds from ? — I have been working for Mr. Westmacott for years, and for Rundle & Bridge for models, and for Mr. Chantrey. 3585. Supposing the Committee had been informed that great facility was given to the diffusion of the works of art in the British Museum by means of casts, should you say that was the case, or not ? — Really I cannot say exactly ; I could not answer that question. 3586. Can you inform the Committee whether you yourself have great facility given you to obtain moulds ? — I never apply myself. 3587. Why do you not apply? — Because I was told that it required a person of rank to apply to the Trustees ; so I never took the liberty to write myself, as an individual figure-maker. / 3588. Who told you so? — I cannot say who it was; it was a long time back, when I worked for Mr. Westmacott. 3589. But in those cases in which you have obtained permission, through the intervention of a person of rank, you have still found some difficulty thrown in your way ? — At that time about the Clytie with the Lotus, and about the Homer. 3590. If you had a full and free opportunity to obtain moulds, you think that your trade of a figure-maker would be very much benefited by it? — It would in some cases. 3591. Supposing you selected the statues themselves, and had a free oppor- nity to take moulds, do you not think your trade as a figure-maker would be mate- rially increased ? — It would ; but I should not take that liberty unless I applied to some gentleman for an order for such a thing. 3592. In cases where frequent moulds are taken from a statue, is Any visible effect produced on the surface and complexion of that statue ? — It will change the colour ; it will take off that mellow look of the marble. 3593. Do you provide any of those plaster of Paris figures that are sold in the streets ? — None. ' 3594. Would a bust be injured if one mould were taken per annum? — It would . be injured ; but if I were to give my advice it would be, when the bust, or what- ever it be, is moulded, to take the first cast of the mould, and preserve it to mould from again, if required. 3595. If a mould were properly and successfully taken, it would not be neces- sary again to apply to the original ? — I do not think it would be necessary for 40 of 50 years, if the mould is taken properly. 3596. Is th^re not a format6re attached to the gallery of sculpture at the Louvre ? — There is a format6re there appointed by the government. 3597. Have you ever heard that the statues there have been injured by the taking of casts ? — No. 3598. Have you ever heard that any statue in the British Museum from which the most frequent casts have been taken has been injured ; the Committee mean as to the colour of the marble ?-^Theseus has been moulded three times ; I moulded it twice myself. - 3599. For whom did you mould it twice ? — Once for Mr. Haydon, and once for Mr. Westmacott. 3600. Assuming that the taking of moulds injures the colour of the marble, have you ever been warned or superintended by the Trustees, or their officers ? — No. 3601. Did Mr. Westmacott or Mr. Haydon ever caution you as to the com- position of your plaster, with a view to prevent the marble being injured ? — Never. 3602. Did they leave it entirely to you ? — Entirely. 3603. Is the Theseus injured by the moulds ?— The marble never would be injured by the moulder if the moulder knew what he was about. 3604. In point of fact, it depends on the skill of the moulder as to the injury that may be done to the complexion of the statue ?— The moulding will clean the statue ; and when that is taken off it will appear more new, and not have that yellow appearance j it has not the beautiful colour of the antique. 479. L L 3005- Is 258 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Petro Angel Sarti. 3605. Is the Theseus a statue which you should consider as possessing a delicate " complexion, or has it not rather the appearance of having been exposed to the air 29 July 1835. for some length of time? — It has the appearance of having been exposed to the air. 3606. Do you not think that moulds might be taken from statues most likely to obtain a ready sale, without in the slightest degree injuring the statue, either in point of colour or otherwise ? — I mould many new figures made by modern artists, and it would not be found out afterwards whether they were moulded or not ; in a new figure it will not show it as in an antique one. 3607. The question refers now to antique statues; might you not mould from the antique statues, so as to supply any demand that might exist, without in the slightest degree injuring the statue, or even injuring the colour of the marble? — After the first appearance the colony can be prevented being injured ; but we are obhged to wash them with soap to prevent the plaster sticking ; that will bring the statue more clean. We cannot help changing the colour in that way, but the statue itself need not be injured. 3608. Do you think, those statues from wliich you have taken moulds in the Museum are at all injured in the way you described ? — No, they will not remain of that colour for two months. 360Q. Do you mean that in two months they would be restored to their original colour? — Yes. ^6 1 o. Have you ever moulded in museums out of England 1 — No. 36 1 1 . Do you know anything of the regulations in Paris respecting the taking of moulds from the antique statues there ? — Not exactly. 3612. Where did you study your art? — I was about France, and then I was under Mazzoni for about five years, moulding continually down at the Museum here, 3613. Do you know anything of the regulations in Paris? — As far as I heard from Mr. Jacquit, the French format6re, the government give him a room for moulds and casts, and pay him for the moulds, and then he makes the casts, and he divides the profit with the museum. 3614. Do you happen to know whether there is an extensive sale in France for casts or ahtique statues ? — There is an extensive sale, but they have more originals than we have. 3615. Is the trade in which you are engaged more extensive in France than in England ? — I do not think it is. 3616. Is there any difference in the taste, within your own knowledge, between the two people ; state what casts would be most likely to sell in France, and what most likely to sell in England ? — ^In England they will sell the naked figure now as much as they did in France years ago ; they would not take them some time ago here in England. In France tliey put them in gardens, and they are likely to sell more of them than what we do here. ' 3617. Speaking of other figures, have you any further information you can give the Committee ?^ — -No. 3618. Do the Committee understand you, if you or any other person in your profession were to apply at Paris for permission to take a mould, you would or would not be permitted to make such mould at the museum ? — Not in Paris= 3619. Are the Committee to understand that it is a monopoly exercised in Paris in favour of the actual formatore.'' — Yes. 3620. Who, as you say, makes the casts at his own expense, and divides the profits with the museum ? — Yes, but the mould is paid for by the government or the museum. 3621. But you think the making of the mould is paid for by the government ? — I think so ; that is what I heard from Mr. Jacquit. 3622. Do you think you could obtain the cast of a statue cheaper in Paris than you can in London ? — I can sell the casts here at the same price as they sell them in Paris, and it may be some cheaper. 3623. Why? — For those they mould from the museum they charge nearly double to what they do for those they mould in Rome and other places. 3624. They charge more in Paris than they do" in Rome ? — They charge more for the casts taken from their museum than they charge for other casts. 3625. The principal manufacture of plaster of Paris is carried on in that metropolis? — It is. ' 3626. Is plaster much cheaper at Paris ? — 'A great deal. 3627. Then Paris statues, taking into consideration the cheapness of plaster, are dearer than those from Rome or England? — Yes; but then I mean those which SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 259 which are moulded from the originals they have got in the Louvre ; the others Petre Angel Sarti. that are not moulded from the I^ouvre they sell cheaper than elsewhere. ■■ — 3628. Then that is in consequence of the restriction imposed on those who are 29 July 1835. anxious to obtain casts from the antiques in the Louvre ? — 'Yes. 3629. Supposing there were a format6re attached to the British Museum, and you were only required to pay for the use of the moulds, and no profit was allowed to be charged by the format6re, do you, think then you would be able to obtain casts as cheap in London from antique statues as you can in Rome ?— Every bit. Robert Braieriy Esq. called in ; and Examined, 3630. WHAT appointment do you hold in the British Museum? — That of an Robert Bromi,'E%({, trader-librarian, and I am designated Keeper of the Banksian botanical collections. 3631. Will you state the salary you derive from that appointment? — The salary of an under-librarian is 200/. a year, the attendance being two days in the . week, and for two additional days duty I have 150/. a year more. 3632. State the gross sum ? — £.350, 3633. Is there any other emolument derived from that situation ? — No other emolument; that is, I can hardly call emolument a small sum allowed for stationery, which does not exceed 5 I. 3634. Have you any apartments attached to your office ? — I have not. 3635. Who assists you in your department? — I have an assistant who was appointed when the department was formed. 36^6. Will you state his name ? — Mr. John Joseph Bennett. 3637. Will you now inform the Committee what are the duties of yourself and your assistant ? — The principal duties may be stated to be the keeping up the arrangement of the collection, and incorporating with that arranged collection the unarranged materials already in my custody, and other similar materials that from time to time may come to the Museum. 3638. Is the Committee to understand that the Botanical department generally is immediately under your control^and superintendence? — ^In the resolution of the Trustees respecting my appointment my duties were confined to the Banksian botanical collections, which I brought with me to the establishment ; having more than once, however, stated my wish to have all the botanical materials existing in the Museum put under my care, that arrangement has very recently been deter- mined on by the Trustees. 3639. How long is it since that arrangement was first made, of transferring the other collections to you ? — It is only in progress now, for I cannot consider myself as having the custody of those collections until they are regularly trans- ferred to me by the oflBcer under whose care they have hitherto been, and that transfer is not yet completed. 3640. What is the cause of so important an arrangement being delayed ? — 'One cause, and probably the principal, was the want of space in the rooms which the Banksian collection occupies, for it is only in the rooms occupied by that collec- tion that the older collections belonging to the Museum can be made readily accessible. In the rooms, however, chiefly occupied by the Banksian collection a geological collection had been deposited, which remained there for many years, and which has but lately (that is within a very few months) been removed to the new building. 3641. Does the want of space prevent your having the entire superintendence and control over the collection ? — I never have had the superintendence or control over that part of the collection. 3642. Then at present the Botanical department is partly under your care, and partly under the care of some other officer of the institution ? — At present it might rather be considered as wholly under my care, with the reservation which I have already made ; that is to say, that its transfer is in progress ; it is deter- mined on, and the greater part of the collection is now actually placed in the rooms referred to. 3643. But its perfect exhibition and developement is rendered impossible from the confined space which is now allotted to it ? — Not so, after it has been entirely placed in the rooms now allotted to it. 3644. Have you sufficient space at the present moment to exhibit that collec- tion, and to arrange it most beneficially ? — I believe so ; the collection has a pecu- liar character, it cannot receive any other arrangement than that (Vhich it has 479. LL2 always 26o MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Robert Brown,'E&({. always had. It consists principally of the herbaria that existed in the time of .Sir • Hans Sloane, and these herbaria are contained in a number of bound volumes, 29 July 1835. whose contents are in general very miscellaneous, and several species, not nearly allied to each other, are not unfrequently pasted on the same page ; the arrange- ment cannot therefore be disturbed, and all that can be done will be to make such an index to the miscellaneous contents of these volumes as will render them tolerably accessible. 3645. In an article which appeared in the Edinburgh Review in the year 1823, it is stated, " that the volumes containing Sloane's collection of plants were put up out of sight and much neglected ;" have you had an opportunity of examining that collection, and can you give the Committee any information as to its pre- sent state ? — I cannot speak to the state of the collection in that year when the Review was published. 3646. But now that it is under your care and superintendence, can you ? — 'It is, as I have already stated, about to be placed under my care; and in answer to the question, judging, however, from an examination of part only, I have no reason to doubt its being very nearly if not entirely in the same state of preservation in which it was 50 years ago. 3647. Should you say, speaking as a scientific man, that it has been carefully preserved or not? — That it has been preserved is, I apprehend, implied in my last answer. 3648. From its present appearance, so far as you are able to speak, should you, speaking as a scientific man, say the collection had been carefully preserved ? — In my last answer I stated that I believed the preservation of the collection was such as it probably must have been 50 or I would even say ico years ago ; it is in the nature of such collections, unless they are exposed to damp and to the attacks of insects, that they are not likely to suffer, and I have no reason to believe that they have actually suffered from either of these causes. , 3649. Have you examined it at all carefully ? — I have not examined it as a whole carefully ; I have examined, or more properly consulted, from time to time, a considerable number of the volumes ; I ftm enabled to speak therefore to the condition of these volumes only. 3650. Are you able at all to state to the Committee whether you think, nume- rically speaking, the specimens are the same as they were at the time Sir Hans Sloane left them to the Museum ? — That is a point to which I cannot at present speak, not having yet examined the whole collection. 3651. Is there any inventory or catalogue at present existing showing accurately and numerically the number of specimens ? — Not the number of specimens ; I am not yet aware at least of there being any catalogue of that description. 3652. Have you ever met with a synopsis of Sloane's collection, as given by Edwards ? — I have not. 3653- You are not aware then that there is the number of each object of art, as well as all the objects of -natural history given in detail ? — I am not aware of the fact ; I think that that catalogue could hardly extend to th^ number of specimens, or even to the number of species. 3654. The Committee will read to you this passage from the Edinburgh Review in 1823, and then ask your opinion as to its general truth : " About 50 or 60 volumes only are now visible (that is of the Sloane collection of Vegetable Nature), piled up on some lofty shelves in one of the rooms on a level with the library, and these areblack with the dust of half a century, which has not only defiled their exte- rior, but has penetrated into their inmost recesses, whilst the leaves and plants are equally the prey of worms, undisturbed in their sacrilegious banquets ? " — I should say it is a greatly overcharged statement ; to begin with the volumes, a certain number of volumes, a number which may nearly correspond with that given in the Review, I believe had been long placed in one of the rooms of the Museum, and indeed in one of the rooms now occupied by the Banksian collection, in which on my arrival in the Museum I found them ; the rest of the volumes, I believe, were kept in a smaller room, an upper room in the building, where they certainly were not easily ac- cessible ; but I have no reason to believe that the statement with respect either to the effects of the dust, and far less with regard to the ravages of insects, is at all cor- rect. As far as my knowledge of those volumes extends, it certainly is not correct. 3655. The Herbarium of Linnaeus is still existing, is it not ? — 'It is, and in this country. It is now the property of the Linnaean Society. 3656. Comparing the state of the specimens in that Herbarium with the state a of 29 July 1835. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 261 of the specimens in the Sloane collection, what opinion should you give as to the Robert Brown, Esq. comparative care which had been bestowed on the preservation of them respec- tively?— I should say in answer to that, that the specimens in the Sloane collec- tion, as far as I am acquainted with them, are in quite as good a state of preserva- tion as those of the Linnasan collection. I speak always with this limitation, that I am acquainted with part only of the Sloane collection. 3657. And your answer only qualifies the passage in the Edinburgh Review, to the extent you have examined that collection ?^ — My answer contradicts the state- ment of the Edinburgh Review to that extent, 3658. In reference to the last answers, will you state to the Committee, so far as you have a general recollection of the fact, what proportion of the Sloane collec- tion you have personally examined ? — It is difficult for me to name or to state the exact proportion ; but I may venture to say, that I have had occasion to consult and in that way to have become acquainted with the state of from 30 to 40 volumes. 3659. The whole collection consisting of how many ? — It is said to consist of upwards of 300 ; but in point of fact, it falls considerably short of that number, two or more volumes being not unfrequently bound together ; and of the volumes as they exist actually, I have probably consulted and found in a fair state of pre- servation between 30 and 40. 3660. Have you, on examination, found any volume in the state described in the passage from the Edinburgh Review, quoted to you in a preceding question? — I have not. 3661. You regard then that description as an over-statement of the fact? — ^.Certainly. 3662. And contradicted by your own experience, so far as you have applied yourself to the inquiry ? — To that extent certainly. 3663. The same Review states, that the Herbaria of Sir Hans Sloane filled 334 ivolumes, and that only 50 or 60 volumes were then visible. Will you inform the Committee whether any steps have been taken to place all those volumes within the reach of any scientific person who may visit the Museum ? — At my suggestion, which I have already referred to, they are now about to be placed in such a position. 3664. Would it be a just inference from what you have now stated, that they had not up to the time of your appointment been made accessible to the scientific visitors of the Museum ? — I should rather say, they were not so readily accessible as they will now be ; and to make them more accessible was my object in pro- posing to take charge of them. 3665. Was there ever any period in which a man of science desiring to consult a particular volume of the Sloane collection, could not, have had access to it? — I believe there was no period in which a scientific man desirous of consulting that collection, could not have had access to it ; nor do I think there was any period in which the volume wished for, could not have been found ; but I apprehend that it could not have been so readily found as it will now, be. 3666. Do you attribute the access being in a certain degree imperfect, to any inability or indisposition on the part of the governing body or officers in the Museum, to make their collections as available as possible to the purposes of science, or to the limited space in which that collection was necessarily confined ? — I think it must be in part ascribed to the limited space ; I should add also, that there was no officer whose duty it would have more particularly been to have •attended to that department ; the officers of the Natural History department being fully occupied in other branches of the science. 3667. Can you give the Committee any opinion on the state of the Hbrary which is attached to the collection of Natural History ?— -There is no library attached to the collection of Natural History ; in my department there are a few books of reference, which are absolutely essential to it. 3668. Then passing by for a moment one subject, namely, the value of having such a library attached to the Natural History collection, are you prepared to give the Committee any information as to the state of the library generally, in reference to Natural History? — Up to a certain period, I can speak to the state of that library, but of that library only, which was transferred to the Museum along with the Banksian botanical collection. 3669. You have frequented the Museuni, I presume, previously to the presenta- tion of the Banksian library?— I am not sure that I ever visited the Museum for ; . 479. LL 3 ^^® 262 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Robert BrowriylS.sq. the purpose of consulting any printed work on Natural History, feeling myself — independent in that department of science. 29 July 1835. 3670. Having access to so valuable a collection of books, you did not feel it necessary to go to the British Museum ?— I do not recollect that I ever did ; I may have done so once or twice, but I cannot recollect that I ever did, 3671. Taking the library as it now exists, with the addition of Sir Joseph Banks's collection, is it furnished with the latest works, both English and foreign, on Natural History? — Not with all such works ; I now wish to speak with refer- ence to botany only ; the Banksian library was a general library of natural history. 3672. Does Mr. Brown mean his answer to imply, that the collection of Sir Joseph Banks was generally rich in natural history up to the period when thai col- lection was transferred to the Museum ? — T do ; that is implied in my answer to the former question, and in my last answer ; I mean to confine myself to botany. 3673. Then, confining yourself to the Botanical department of the library, is it at the present moment in your opinion furnished, as it ought to be, with the latest works, both British and foreign, on that branch of natural history? — It is not fur- nished with every important work on botany. 3674. Will you inform the Committee how it happens that there is not that useful supply of the latest modern publications? — I cannot inform the Committee of all the causes of such deficiencies. 3675. Have you ever yourself experienced the want of works, either British or foreign, and have you mentioned that want to the Trustees, or any other officers of the institution ? — I have experienced the want of such works, and occasionally communicated lists of important works wanted to the principal officer in the department of Printed Books ; indeed he has more than once asked me to do so ; the whole of those books, however, have not been purchased; I speak chiefly of foreign works ; and I presume that is owing in a great measure to the very limited sum allotted for the purchase of books of all classes. 3676. Has that been the reason assigned to you for not procuring the works in question ? — I think that reason has been assigned to me ; I speak, however, from imperfect recollection. 3677. The British Museum having a right to a copy of every work published in Great Britain, have all the more recent botanical works been presented to the Mu- seum ? — That I cannot speak to. 3678. Do you happen to know any that have not been presented ? — Flora Grseca is certainly one. 3679. Is Mr. Brown aware that the Trustees of the Museum endeavoured to procure the Flora Grasca undej the terms of the Copyright Act, and on resistance to such endeavour on their part, were compelled to bring an action in order to recover it, and they finally failed ? — I am acquainted generally with those circumstances. 3680. Can Mr. Brown state to the Committee the nature of the resistance and the general outline of the decision of the court on the matter at issue ? — I cannot say anything correctly with respect to the grounds of the decision of the court : as to the nature or origin of the resistance, I apprehend it was founded on the very limited number of copies which the Trustees of Dr. Sibthorp could afford to prepare for publication, the whole number actually published never, I beUeve, ex- ceeding 30 ; had, therefore, the eleven additional copies been furnished to the public libraries, as the Act directs, the publication of the work must have been greatly retarded. 368-1 . Are you aware generally that the Trustees did endeavour to procure for the Museum, under the terms of the existing law, the benefit of the possession of this work ? — I am aware of that fact. 3682. Can you mention any other works which have not been obtained under the privilege possessed by the British Museum ?— No other work of importance at .present occurs to me. 3683. Sir Joseph Banks bequeathed to you his library for your life, and also an annuity for its superintendence and care, did he not?— Sir Joseph Banks be- queathed to naefor my life "the use and enjoyment" (to employ the terms of the will) of his library and botanical collections ; he also bequeathed to me an annuity, but not for the superintendence apd care of the library and collections, though doubt- less all possible care is implied in the bequest. Neither the library nor collections were ever open to the public generally. Whoever had access to them, had it through me. Sir Joseph Banks entrusted to my discretion an important' charge; and SELECT COMxMlTTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 263 and I endeavoured, as far as circumstances of some difficulty enabled me, to fulfil Hobert Brom, Esq. his probable intentions. I have entered into these particulars chiefly because the ■ '- question now put seems to me to imply that I had an actual duty to perform to 29 July 1835. the public generally, and for the performance of which the annuity in question was given ; and I have done so in some measure also with reference to what at length took place, namely, the transfer of the liBrary and collections to the British Museum. 3684. Will yoil state the nature and the particulars of the arrangement by which the library and collections were transferred to the British Museum? — In the codicil of Sir Joseph Banks's will, in which that bequest was made, the library and collections after my death were bequeathed to the British Museum ; the Trustees however had it in their power, on obtaining my consent to the transfer, to receive them immediately. A negociation with me was opened by the Trustees on that subject, not immediately, however, after Sir Joseph Banks's death, nor for several years ; and after its commencement more than one year I think passed before it was arranged ; it was completed towards the end of 1827. 3685. And it is now transferred to and under the care of the Trustees ? — It was then transferred absolutely to the British Museum. The delays in the negocia- tion arose from the difficulty of agreeing on the terms on which I was to accom- pany it as the keeper, not of the library, but of the botanical collections only. 3686. Is there any arrangement entered into between you and the Trustees with reference to your vacations ? — There is. 3687. Will you state that to the Committee, if you please ? — In my proposal to the Trustees, which differed considerably from their original proposal to me, I stipulated to be received on the establishment as an under-librarian in every respect, not only as to salary and to employment on additional days ; not how- ever three, which most of the officers undertake, but only two extra days ; and in having a house, as all other under-librarians have. It was stated to me that there was no house that I could succeed to without interfering with the privileges or prospects of other officers of the Museum ; I then proposed to take a certain, and I should say a very moderate sum, in lieu of a house, which could not be obtained within the walls of the establishment ; and that being also objected to, I proposed to take, in lieu of the allowance for a house, an increased leave of absence in summer, a proposal which was acceded to. 3688. What arrangements are made in your absence for the exhibition bf the collections to students or others ? — The arrangement is, I believe, perfectly satis- factory, inasmuch as my assistant, Mr. Bennett, who is quite competent to the efficient performance of the duties required, attends during the whole of my vacation, and I am in attendance while he has his leave. The department there- fore is not shut up a single week during the whole year, holidays excepted. 3689. What salary has your assistant ?— He has only 150/., and his attendance is for five days in the week. 3690. Have .you all the facilities which as a man of science you wish and desire for the cultivation and pursuit of your own particular branch of natural history, as far as the same can be afforded you by the Trustees ? — ^The principal facility which can be afforded me by the Trustees of the British Museum, consists in ray having the freest access to all books in their library connected with the department of science which I cultivate, and that I have always enjoyed. It would have been very desirable for me, especially as I am without apartments in the Museum, to have had a private room adjoining my department, as many officers of the establishment and as all under-librarians have, or are to have, but that I have not yet obtained. 369 T. Have you ever made known so desirable a thing to the Trustees? — It was made known to the late Lord Spencer (the Trustee who conducted in parf the negociation for the transfer of the library and collections), not indeed directly by me, but by Dr. Wollaston, through whom my communications with Lord Spencer took place. I was so much impressed with the importance of having a private room to enable me to carry on part of the duties of my office, free from interrup- tion, that I wished to make it absolutely a condition ;' I was advised, however, by Dr. Wollaston not tp introduce it as' a sine qud non, and he assured me at the same time 1 should have Lord Spencer's support in obtaining it. 3692. Can you state the answer you received? — I ought to state, I never applied to the Trustees for a private room; I was principally determined not to do so -by a conversation I had with the principallibrarieBi, for from .-^ T T .. what 479. L L 4 264 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Robert Broun, Esq. what passed in that conversation I was persuaded I should not then be able to — obtain it. 29 July 1835. 3693. Was that answer founded, so far as you know the fact or have reason to believe, on the existing size, of the state of accommodation provided for the Museum generally, or on any indisposition to afford a reasonable facility to 'any one of the departments ? — The question being so put, my answer is, that on a private room becoming vacant, my statement respecting Lord Spencer's. support was mentioned to the principal librarian, and, as I have already stated, in con- sequence of the conversation that followed, I did not apply for it. 3694. Was it to your knowledge bestowed on another gentleman in the Mugeum, or how otherwise disposed of? — I believe it was so disposed of, but really I cannot say. The room was that which became vacant by Mr. Konig's obtaining another in a different part of the building. 3695. Can you state to the Committee whether 4:he room in question be or be not at this moment in the occupation of any officer of the Museum, or whether it be otherwise employed in the service of the Museum?— I really cannot. answer that question ; I never have been in the room since ; on finding I was not likely to obtain it, I determined to think no more of it. 3696. Was it a room in the old building or the new one? — It was a room in the old building. 3697. Are you enabled from time to time to increase the collection by purchase or acquisition of any valuable additions to it ? — I am now enabled, very recently enabled, to do so to a certain extent, and to an extent indeed nearly equal to what I myself suggested might probably be sufficient. ». 3698. Have you ever had an interview with the Trustees since you have been in the Museum ?— Not since my appointment. 3699. You have never been called in by them, or have otherwise sought an interview with them in your own apartment ? — Never since my appointment. 3700. When you were appointed, of course you had an audience with the Trus- tees? — It was immediately before my appointment, and the interview was neces- sary, in consequence of my, concurrence being required to some previous arrange- ment. 3701. During that audience were you standing? — I was. It was a very short audience. 3702. You stated that at different times you had recommended the expediency of combining under your charge all the botanical collections of the Museum, and a transfer accordingly of all such collections is now in progress ; when did you make the first representation in question, and when did the transfer now in progress first commence ? — 'On referring to a document, I find that in March 1828 I was called on to report on the distribution and fittings required for such portion of the upper story of the east wing as might be occupied by the botanical collection ; and in my report on that subject, I stated that the Sloane Herbaria might be accommo- dated by alloting a certain space which my report specified, if the Trustees thought proper to transfer them to the Banksian department ; that had reference however to the new wing, to which the Botanical department was not transferred. In June 1833 I stated in my report for that month, that on the removal of Mr. Smith's Geological collection I should, if the Trustees approved, be able to receive the Sloane Herbaria, and that in this way all the botanical collections of the Museum would be brought together and rendered equally accessible. Mr. Smith's Geolo- gical collection having been at length removed in April last, I once more made the same statement to the Trustees, who immediately directed the transfer of the Sloane collections to my custody to take place. .3703- The original application in 1828 was not distinctly that all the collections might be transferred to your charge, as that charge was then exercised, but that in the event of your removal to the new building, or the upper part of the east wing, you could provide accommodation for the Sloanian Herbaria there, as well as for ■ your own Banksian collection ?■ — I conceive that my report was so worded as to prove to the Trustees that I was willing to undertake the charge of the Sloanian Herbaria ; and believing that there would be no objection to that arrangement, I pointed out what space would be required for them, along with the Banksian collections, in the new building. 3704. The upper division of the east wing has since been appropriated, to geology, has it not ? — Not to geology. The two rooms which I pointed out as sufficient SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 265 sufficient for the accommodation of the botanical collections, are now occupied ; Robert Brown Esq* the one by the prints, and the other by the collection of English birds and shells. — 3705. With reference to the new building, have you ever been consulted, either 29 July 1835* by the Trustees or the architect, as to the apartments or the accommodation neces- sary for your immediate collection ? — Yes, certainly ; in the document that I have already referred to I was directed to report on the distribution and the fittings required for such portion of the upper story of the east wing as might be necessary for the reception of the Banksian collections. 3706. The question referred to the present unfinished new building? — I have not been consulted as to any other parts of the new building than the east wing. 3707. You are aware that a certain number of Trustees are elected? — I am. 3708. Have the Trustees in your experience ever been elected out of the ranks of scientific men, professionally such ? — From among merely scientific men, pro- fessionaUy such, and the word science being limited, I arri not aware of any instance. 3709. Explain what you mean by "limiting the word?" — I use the word "science " in its more restricted sense ; I limit it to physical science. 3710. Should you consider such men as Herschel, Faraday, or Babbage,. in any way disqualified from being elected Trustees of the British Museum ? — Surely not absolutely disqualified. 3711. Should you or not think them qualified and fitted especially for such an office, it being an institution for the encouragement of science and of literature ? — I do not think them particularly well qualified for the management of such an institution. 3712. Will you state to the Committee on what your opinion is founded? — I have the greatest respect for the three gentlemen mentioned, but they are all more particularly conversant with and distinguished in branches of science with which the British Museum has very little connexion. 37] 3. Should you not think an elected Trusteeship of the British Museum might be made an office of honour and distinction, and thereby afford some encourage- ment to men of science? — If the honorary distinction could be separated from the management of the establishment, I see no objection to conferring it on scientific men, to many of whom I have no doubt.it would prove an encouragement; though at the same time, I am of opinion that more appropriate modes of rewarding sci- entific merit might readily be found ; and, as connected with the actual management of such an institution as the British Museum, I consider the measure as decidedly objectionable. 3714. Are you aware that the institutions in Paris, the Jardin du Roi, for in- stance, and similar institutions, are managed and directed by a board -of literary and scientific 4nen ? — I beheve such is the case; the constitution of some of those esta- bUshments at least I know is very different from that of the British Museum. 3715. In reference to their respective collections, do you think that such a board is more or less efficient than the Board of Trustees, as now forming the governing body in the British Museum ?-^It is difficult for me to answer that question. It might be found, on careful inquiry, that with respect to some of those collections, the management of the institutions in Paris was superior and of others inferior to that of the British Museum. At pi-esent I can only say that I see no important ground of objection to the general management of the British Museum, allowance being made for the great variety and little connexion of the ob- jects which the establishment embraces ; and I am not sufficiently acquainted vyith the working of the very different system adopted in the corresponding establish- ments in Paris, to enable me to judge correctly of their comparative merits. 3716. Supposing the management of the British Museum was entrusted entirely to twelve of the most distinguished savam of England, do you think it would be managed more or less judiciously than it now is ?— This is another difficult ques- tion for me to deal with : I have already stated tliat I consider the three gentlemen mentioned as not particularly well qualified to become efficient managers of the British Museum, and yet I am not aware that any other three of superior scientific merit could be found to assist in completing the required number. 3717. In what respect do yoti think such men ill-qualified to become the directors of such an institution as that of the British Museum ?— I have already stated in the three cases referred to, that those gentlemen are chiefly conversant with branches of science which are not of importance, or at least not of primary im^portance m the British Museum. - _ ^, 47g. MM 3718. Those 266 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Roberi Brown, Esci- 37.1 S. Those were taken merely as an instance of a class of scientific men? — T — My opinion is, that scientific men are not particularly fitted for the management 29 July J 835. of such an establishment ; merely scientific men are in general chiefly occupied in some one department of science, and are consequently unfitted for the general management of an establishment comprehending so many objects as the British Museum does, and most of those objects so very little connected with their own pursuits. 3719. But suppose the choice were presented to you of a governing body coht sistino' of the ablest and fittest among our scientific men, and a body consisting of men of the very highest rank with the greatest share of official business, to which should you give a preference as forming a body for the direction of the coricerns of the British Museum ? — I have in the first place to observe, that as the question is put, the men of rank and official station are disqualified, by assuming that their oc- cupations are such 33*10 prevent their attending to the concerns of the institution. By the terms of the question they are reduced to the same level, as managers of the Museum, with the scientific man, who, according to my view of him, is equally disqualified by the absorbing nature of his pursuits and their very slight connexion in many cases with the objects of the establishment. 3720. The disqualification in the one case being the excess of official duty, and in the other the excess of time necessarily bestowed oti professional pursuits ? — It may be so stated. 3721. Would it be a fair inference then from the opinions you have now ex- pressed, that a better constitution might be formed for the government of an insti- tution like that of the British Museum ? — Not necessarily ; my answer in regard to the Trustees depending on the correctness of your description of the body. I will however add, that I think scientific qualifi^cation, and especially acquaintance with that branch of science which is of primary importance in the Museum, should not be overlooked in the appointment of a certain number of the Trustees, and I am not aware that at any period this qualification has been entirely overlooked. I should further say that the number of Trustees to be appointed on this ground should be regulated by the degree of importance which the only branch of science attended to in the Bi'itish Museum, namely, systematic natural history, bears to that of all the other objects embraced by the institution. 3722. Do you mean by the term appointment to include elected Trustees in that answer ? — My answer I find is applicable only to elected Trustees. 3723. But speaking generally of the governing body? — I do not feel myself qualified to answer that question in all its bearings ; I may observe, however, that the British Museum is and has always been more a literary than a scientific insti- tution, and that with the exception of natural history, which I have already said should be expressly attended to in the appointment of Trustees, profound know- ledge in any branch of physical science would be principally advantageous in regard to the library. 3724. Will Mr. Brown state to the Committee what in his opinion is the govern- ing body of the Royal Library in Paris, and of the Jardin des Plantes, and of the Louvre, in Paris, the three institutions the objects of which are combined in a certain degree in the British Museum ? — I can only speak from any knowledge to the Jardin du Roi ; there the governing body, subject always to "the Minister of Public Instruction, consists of the professors themselves, who anniJally elect a pre- sident, through whom, I believe, all communications are made to that minister. 3725. Does the Minister of Public Instruction fill that post in relation to the professors in Paris which the Trustees of the British Museum fill in relation to the officers of the different departments in the British Museum ? — No, the relation is essentially different. 3726. Does he appoint them?— The appointment does not originate with him. 3727. Who appoints them?— The King in fact appoints them ; but he is deter- mined, and I believe it seldom happens that there is any deviation from the system, by the nomination of the professors of the body in which the vacancy- occurs, and by that of the Academy of Sciences, the nomination of the Academy being, I believe, chiefly attended to. 3728. Your answer has been Hmited to the Jardin; you do not feel able to communicate to the Committfee any information as to the Gallery of Antiquities in the Louvre, the -Gallery of Paintings in the Louvre, or the Bibliotheque'du Roi? — -I am not acquainted with the constitution of either of these establishments. 3729. Could you give an opinion as to the utility of the heads of departments in SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 267 in the British Museum being called on from time to time to deliver lectures, in Robert Brown, Esq order that the public might have a certain knowledge of the fitness of the indi- vidual and the state of the information he possessed ? — I cannot think that such a 29 July 1835. test is either necessary or prpper ; there are other, and in my opinion better, means of ascertaining the fitness of an individual. 3730. What security have the public, that when an individual is once appointed he will keep up that reputation which obtained for hini his appointment, under the present system ? — They have no other than that moral security, so to term it, derived from an established character or reputation, the existence of which is admitted in the terms of the question. This I regard as the best security, and, in my opinion, it ought to be held sufficient. 3731. In reference to your own department, are there any suggestions that you can make to the Committee with a view to improving it, to the end that the pursuits either of yourself or whoever may be your successor, may be most effi- ciently directed and assisted P-r— I have not at present sufficiently matured all that probably might be suggested on those points. In the meantime, however, I may observe, that as far as relates to the period during which I continue to hold the appointment, I have no reason to doubt that, as I have lately, on application to the Trustees, obtained a sum nearly equal to that applied for to enable me to make addition? to the collections in my custody, so in the event of a greater sum becoming necessary, and a proper representation of that fact being made, I should in like manner obtain that greater sum; or if I should hereafter find that to expedite the duties of the department, the whole instead of half the time of an attendant had become necessary, I have no reason to doubt that. such additional assistance would be granted. With regard to the prospects of the department after the period referred to, I think it necessarj^to advert to the declared intention of the Trustees, in the last edition of their Statutes, printed in 1 833, namely, that in. the event of a vacancy in the office which I now fill, " the care of Sir Joseph Banks' botanical collections will be transferred to the regular officers of the Museum." But assuming that the regular officers meant in the above resolution are those belonging to the Natural History department, as at present constituted, I have no hesitation in stating it as my opinion, that if the intention declared be acted on, the utility of the Botanical department, or rather of the collections now forming that department, will of necessity be greatly reduced. I cannot, however, but express my hope that the resolution referred to will be reconsidered and aban- doned by the Trustees ; and I expi'ess this hope with the greater confidence, as they have very recently agreed to remove the other botanical collections from, the Natural History department, and to add them to the Banksian. In the present advanced state of natural history generally, and of the collections in the British Museum, its subdivision into distinct and independent departments has, in my opinion, 'become so obviously necessary, that the re-union of a division already admitted appears to me a measure not likely ever to be adopted. 3732. In Paris, according to an account of the Museum Royal D'Histoire Naturel'le, published by Deleuze, it appears that there is attached to the museum what is called an aide naturaliste chargk des analyses'!— The Jardin du Roi is a much more extensive establishment in natural history than the British Museum. In it zoology, botany and mineralogy are subdivided ; it has a collection of com- parative anatomy, a botanic garden, and a menagerie ; two chemical professors also belong to it. The officer mentioned in the work you refer to is an assistant to one of the professors of chemistry. 3733- Would such an assistant be of any use -to you m your department ?— None whatever to me. r . t j- ^ tdi . . x.r u 3-34 It is a part of the duty of the officers of tne Jardin des Plantes to pubhsh mnales; what would be your opinion as to calling on the officers of the British Museum to publish some such annual work, both with reference to the state of the colections and acquisitions made, the wants of the respective departments, and the state of science?— It is, I believe, no part of the duty of the pro- fessors of the Jardin du Roi to publish the work referred to. That work, entitled Annales, and its continuation, Memoires du Museum d'Histoire Naturelle, was undertaken by the professors themselves, and originally at least at their own risk. And although the work contains some notices of the additions from time to time made to the establishment, its great object was the publication of memoirs on everv branch of natural history, the materials of which were not always derived from" the collections of the institution, nor were the memoirs wholly cSntnbuted by , 479. M M 2 the 268 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Robert Brovin, Esq. the professors. The publication of a similar work by the officers of the British Museum, especially while natural history is so little subdivided, and so much less 29 July 1835. extensively cultivated than in the Jardin ^u Roi, would not, I think, be advisable; and there are other means of publishing in this country essays like those that form the Annales du Museum. There are now societies here expressly for the cultiva- tion of natural history generally, and of various branches of the science, which until a very late period, and not till after the Annales commenced, hardly existed at Paris, with the exception of the Academy of Sciences of the Institute. 3735. Those societies are wholly and entirely supported by individual subscrip- tions, are they not? — That is the case in this country. 3736. The object of the present examination would be to ascertain your opinion as to the propriety of a direct government encouragement of science through the officers of the British Museum, and how far additional facilities and accommoda- tion might or might not be desirable in that point of view ? — It would certainly be of importance to the advancement of natural history generally, if Government were to give occasional assistance in the publication of memoirs on the objects of that science ; but whether that would be the very best way of doing it is another question, and my opinion is that it would not. 3737. Your answer implies that you consider it desirable that the government of a country should give direct encouragement to the publication of works of science? — It is I think very desirable in the case of essays of ascertained importance and requiring, expensive illustrations, in aid of existing societies whose funds, derived entirely from the contributions of their members, do not enable them to publish with the necessary frequency ; and also to individuals, to enable them to publish an account of their researches and discoveries made in expeditions undertaken by Government itself. This last kind«of assistance is indeed occasionally given here, but not to any great extent, and apparently without system. In France it is given more extensively and systematicall}-, on the representation to government of com- petent bodies, especially of the Academy of Sciences and of the professors of the Museum d'Histoire Naturelle. 3738. Can you inform the Committee what societies exist at this moment in Paris similar to the Linnsean, Geological, Entomological, Zoological, Astronomical, Geographical, Horticultural, and Statistical ? — There are societies now in Paris whose objects comprehend almost every one of those mentioned, with the single exception of the Astronomical Society. 3739. When did these societies severally or respectively take their rise in Paris? — Most of them are of recent origin. 3740. Within the last five years ?■ — Noj some of them are considerably older than that. 3741. Is there any analogy in the actual constitution of the British Museum with the actual constitution of the Jardin du Roi ? — There is no doubt a con- siderable analogy ; some of their objects are identical ; the objects, as far as relates to systematic natural history, are identical. 3742. Is there any connexion between the Jardin du Roi and the Biblioth^que du Roi ? — I believe not. 3743. Is there any connexion between the Bibliothfeque du Roi and the Gallery of the Louvre ? — I am not aware that there, is. Mr. George Samouelle, called in ; and Examined. Mr. G. SamimeVe. 3744- WHAT appointment do you hold in the British Museum ? — As I believe, extra-assistant in the Natural History department. 3745. When were you appointed ? — In February 1821, and I entered upon the duties of the appointment in March ; I was first proposed to the Trustees iii February. 3746. To what office in the Museum were you first appointed ? — In the first instance I was directed to go to Mr. Konig, who would direct my employ.^ In consequence of the absence of Dr. Leach it T;^as necessary to go through the •- zoological collections to see the state tbey were in, and where camphor was wanted to apply it, and after that was done to become generally acquainted with the zoological collection. 3747. What salary do you receive? — My salary is 155. a day^ and I am employed five days a week. 3748. What is the gross sum you receive? — £.195 a year; I am now occupied SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 269 occupied five days a week; whereas for the first three years, from 1821 until ur. G. Samouelk. 1624, I was only occupied three days a week. 3749. Do you receive no additional emolument for those two days' additional 29 July 1835. labour ?— No, I receive only 15 s. per day; I had 1.55. a day when my appoint- ment was three days a week, and I have had 15*. a day for the two extra days. 3750. What are the duties attached to, your office ?— I consider, so far as the collection is entirely under my charge, that I have to take proper care of it, to name, and to arrange it, and to keep it in thorough order, and upon persons applying to see the collection, to do my duly in showing it to them, and to give every explanation that may be asked of me. 3751. What branch of natural history is more immediately under your care and superintendence ? — The collection of Crustacea and insects. 3752. Will you inform the Committee by whom you were first appointed ? — I was appointed by the Trustees. The propriety of my appointment was sub- mitted to them, and upon my applying to Mr. Planta, he told me the Trustees had ' appointed me to be employed three days per week, at 15 *. per day. 3753- Are you aware through whose recommendation you were brought under the notice of the Trustees? — Yes. On breakfasting with Mr. William MacLeay some years ago (Dr. Leach having been absent then for a. considerable time), I mentioned to him that I thought the collection of natural history had not been sufficiently attended to, at least the zoological part of it; that I was afraid the collection would be injured by insects, and I mentioned to him the necessity of some oneseeing to it immediately. Upon that Mr. MacLeay applied to Mr. Konig, as keeper of the natural history. Mr. Konig consulted with Mr. Brown, and through the kindness of Mr. MacLeay, Mr. Brown, and Mr. Konig, I was recommended to the Trustees; and Mr. MacLeay, in an interview with the Marquis of Stafford, -who was a Trustee, recommended me to his Lordship as a proper and a fit person. 3754. You were then partly indebted for your appointment to Mr. Robert Brown, who has just been examined? — Yes, and Mr. Konig, and Mr, MacLeay. 3755. What were your pursuits previous to your first appointment ? — I have pursued natural history ever since I was a boy of 14. Previous to my being in the Museum, I had been in the bookselling trade. 3756. Are you not the author of some works on entomology? — Yes,, three, and several papers.' 3757. State their titles. — The first work I pubUshed was " The Entomologist's Useful Compendium," in octavo; that was published in 1819, and was dedicated to Dr. Leach. The second was " Directions for collecting Exotic Crustacea, Spiders, and Insects;" that was dedicated to Mr. Konig. The third was a small periodical, which was entitled "The Entomological Cabinet;" that was completed in 24 numbers, and dedicated by permission to the Princess Victoria. 3758. Have you any assistance in the management of your department? — None whatever. 3759. Does the whole manual labour, in arranging and labelling the collection, fall upon you ? — Entirely so ; and I have not a person even to wipe or clean a glass. 3760. Have you ever made a representation of such want, of assistance, either to the head of the Museum or the Trustees ? — No, 1 have not. 3761 . Will you inform the Committee why you have not stated that you required assistance? — I did not conceive that for that purpose I did require assistance. I am makiflg progress with the collection. , 3762. Why did you not represent your want of assistance? — I did not conceive that I wanted it. 3763. But when you state you have no one to assist you, even to wipe a glass, do you not think some menial assistance would leave you a greater leisure to attend to the scientific department of your duty ?— Merely wiping a pane of glass is easily done. I do not consider that there is sufficient glass exposed, for one to require a person of that description. 3764. Then are the Committee to understand you do not require to have assist- ance in your department?^ — I might, require assistance, and I might have useful assistance, in haying a person to do the mechanical part, such as setting the insects, or writing labels, which would save me considerable time- 3765. Is the principal officer of the Museum aware of your having no kind of assistance in your department ? — Yes, certainly. _^ ^766. Have vou ever had any conversation with him upon the spbject?~lS(0. M M 3 3767. If. 270 MINUTES OF EVIDENCE TAKEN BEFORE THE Mr. G. Samouelk. 3767. If you thought it of- service, which you have stated it would be to you to '" " have assistance, why have you omitted to make some statement upon the subject, 29 • u y 1 36. either to the head of the Museum or to the Trustees ?— I have not found the want. I have gone on progressively with the collection, and I have worked them up almost as fast as cabinets have come in. 3768. Supposing you had the power to appoint your own assistant, and could select the individual, should you in that case be disposed to make such an appoint- ment? — Yes, I should be disposed to employ a person who had some knowledge of the subject, and in the event of a party coming in to see the insects, (for they are all shut up in cabinets kept from the light.) that that person should be able to show the insects without my assistance, for I lose considerable time in showing the insects to strangers and persons who are unacquainted with the subject. 3769. The collection under your care is numbered and catalogued almost throughout, is it not? — The greater portion; all the species that are named are numbered, and nearly all that are named are catalogued ; I think the number of species catalogued and named, amounts to about 7,000, certainly named. 3770. Are the Crustacea, the arachnoidae and insects arranged and numbered ? — The Crustacea are all arranged, the arachnoidas are arranged, the coleoptera are arranged. Insects are divided into several orders ; certain of those orders are in a progressive state ; others are in a working state. 3771. In what state did you find the collection over which you were to preside, when you were first appointed ? — The collection of insects was contained in eight cabinets, and the British Crustacea in one cabinet ; when Dr. Leach left the Museum, two cabinets were in his apartments containing exotic Crustacea ; these were brought into the Museum, making in the whole 1 1 cabinets. Since that time^ the Trustees have had made 10 additional cabinets. 3772. In what condition did you find them, in reference to their preservation? ' — In a very good state, but requiring camphor ; and they were unarranged. 3773. Was there any catalogue before your time ? — One partially begun, which I have continued. 3774. To what extent have you continued that catalogue ? — To the amount now of nearly 7,000 species. 3775- What number of volumes is it contained in?— The catalogues are appro- priated each volume to a separate order ; but of coleoptera I have four volumes ; the whole number of catalogues amounts to 15 volumes. 3776. Manuscript volumes ? — I cannot call them manuscript volumes, because some are merely commenced. 3777. Now in the department of Natural History is there any other similar catalogue of the objects of natural history, as far as you are acquainted with it ? —Yes ; when the whole general collection was under my care, I proceeded with the birds, and got out 200 species of exotic birds in the eighth room ; these were all named and labelled ; there was also a collection of North American birds, presented by the Hudson's Bay Company arid Captain Sabine, and those collected by Captains Ross and Parry, from the Northern expeditions; these were placed in the 11th room, in a case devoted to the Arctic birds ; these birds were all labelled ' and the donors' names placed upon them. 3778. Has that catalogue been continued since you left that department? — That I am not certain of; the birds were taken out of my hands; whether the catalogue has been continued, I do not know ; but I see no numbers attached to the birds in reference to a catalogue. 3779. Supposing you wish to refer to any particular species in the ornithological collection, is there any catalogue by which you could ascertain whether there be such a species or not? — No, and even now there are not names to them ; from many of the British birds the labels have been taken away, and no name is attached. There was a reference in the Synopsis at the time ; this is not the case, I believe, with the present edition. 3780. Have you the entire control of the entomological collection ? — I cannot 3ay that I have, because I have been told that I am a mere nothing in the Museum. 3781. If you have not the entire control of the collection under your care, who interferes to prevent you making such arrangements or such classification as you may deem best ? — I have had no one to interfere with me in that respect. 3782. Then in what respect is the collection not under your perfect and entire control ? — I have been told by Sir Henry Ellis that I am' no officer of the Museum; that SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 271 that I am a mere nothing there. I want it to be defined whether I am an e'xtra Mr r 429 (3.)— Letter from the Rev. H. H. Baber to Sir Henry Ellis, on the same subject; dated 30th June 1835 - -- -. 429 23. — (1.) — Extracts from Minutes of Trustees respecting Sir George Beaumont's Pictures ; dated 12th and 21st July 1828, 14th February 1824, and 13th May 1826 - 430 (2.) — Letter from Sir George Beaumont, Bart., to the Trustees of the British Museum, on the same subject ; dated 17th July 1823 ...... 430 (3.) — Letter from Sir George Beaumont, Bart., to Sir Charles Long, Bart., on the same subject; dated 18th April 1826 - --..-.. 431 24. — Extract from the Minutes of the Trustees respecting Mr. Holwell Carr's Pictures; dated 12th March 1831 431 25. — (1.) — Extract from Nicolas's Observations on the State of Historical Literature, con- cerning Sir Henry Ellis's Journey to Pomard ...... 432 (2.) — Letter from Prince de Polignac to M. Paul de Fontenay, referred to in Sir Henry Ellis's Evidence ; dated 24th August 1829 - . - . - - 432 (3.) — Extract from the Morning Journal of Saturday, 12th September 1829 ~ - 433 (4.) — Note from the Baron de Joursanvault to Sir Henry Ellis ; dated 3d September 1829 433 (5.) — Report made to his Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury, by Sir Henry Ellis, upon the MSS. at Pomard; dated Paris, 7th September 1829 ... 433 26. — An Account of the Sums expended by the Trustees of the British Museum upon objects of Natural History, under various heads, between 25th December 1829 and 25th December 1834 ------.-...- 435 27 — Report upon the Department of Natural History, made by Sir Henry Ellis, Mr. Konig, and Mr. Children ; dated 2d February 1829 - - - , . . -■'436 28. — Papers relating to the Collection of Fossil Remains purchased from Mr. Thomas Hawkins ;— viz. (1.) — Minute declining Mr. Hawkins's Offer; dated nth May 1833 - - - 437 (2.) — Minute declining Mr. Hawkins's Second Offer; dated 8th June 1833 - - 437 (3.) — Extract of a Letter from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the Right Hon. Lord ' Farnborough ; dated 26th June 1834 - - 437 (4.) — ^Letter from the Rev. J. Forshall to Charles Konig, Esq.; dated 10th July 1834 - - 438 (5.) — Minute of General Meeting ; dated 12th July 1834 438 (6.)— Letter from Gideon Mantell, Esq., r. r. s., to the Trustees of the British Museum; dated nth July 1834 - . - . . - ^. - 439 (7.) — Letter from the Rev. W. Coiiybeare, f. r. s., to the Rev. J. Forshall ; dated 7th July 1834 - - - . ... - 439 (8.) — Letter from William Clift, Esq., f. r. s., to the Rev. J. Forshall ; dated 7th July 1834 439 (9.) — Letter from H. T. de la Beche, Esq., f. u. s., to the Trustees of the British Museum; dated 17th July 1834 -.,.... 440 (10.) — Letter from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the Trustees of the British Museum; dated 7th July 1834 -.-.., 440 (n.) — Minute of Committee; dated 1st August 1834 440 (12.) — Letter from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the Trustees of the British Museum; dated 12th July 1834 .-...!. ..=441 (13.) — ^Letter from the same to the same ; dated 20th July- ] 834 ... - 441 (14.) — Extract from Mr. Konig's Report ; dated 12th February 1835 - - 44i (15.) — Minute of Committee; dated 14th February 1835 - j - - - 442 (16.) — Extract from Mr. Konig's Report; dated 12th March 1835 _ , - 44a 07.)— Minute of Committee; dated 14th Mdrch 1835 - - - - 442 (18.) — Minute of Committee ; dated 14th March 1835 ... - - 443 (19.) — Minute of Sub-Committee; dated 26th March 1835 - - - 443 (20.)— Letter from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the Rev. J. Forshall; dated 12th March 1835 443 29. — Estimate, by Mr. Clowes, for Printing the " Synopsis of the Contents ofthe British Museum ;" with Specimens .-.----- - 444 479. r p 2 292 APPENDIX TO REPORT FllOM THfi No. ■ V^ Page. 30.— (i.)— Mr. Westmacott's Proposal for making Moulds from Marbles in the Elgin Col- lection ; dated 15th February 1817 - - - - - - r 444 (2.)~ Conditions on which the Trustees-accepted Mr. Westmacott's Proposal ; dated 15th February 1817 ...--.. - - ; 445 ' 31. — A List of Marbles in the British Museum, moulded by Mr. P. A. Sarti - - - 445 32. — Copies of Communications made to, and received from, His Majesty's Ministers Abroad, respecting LiteraVy Institutions or Libraries in Foreign Countries : 1834, 1835:— viz. (1.)— CIRCULAR to His Majesty's Ministers Abroad; dated Foreign Office, 29th October 1834. (One Enclosure.) - - - - - - 44G (2.)— Russia.— The Hon. J. D. Bligh to the Duke of Wellington ; dated St. Petersburgh, 28th December 1834. (Five Enclosures.) ... 447 (3.) — Prussia — R. Abercrombie, Esq., to Viscount I'almerston ; dated Berlin, 12th November 1834 ----..---. 481 (4.) — Denmauk,— Sir Henry W. W. Wynn to the Duke of Wellington; dated Copenhagen, 24th March 1835.. {Two Enclosures.) - - - 481 (5.) — Belgium. — Sir George B. Hamilton to the Duke of Wellington; dated Brussels, 28th November 1834. (Four Enclosures.) - - - 484 (6.)— WiRTEMBEUG.— Lord William Russell to the Duke of Wellington; dated Stuttgard, 10th December 1834. (One Enclosure.) -' - - - 48G (7.) — France. — ^^Earl Granville to Viscount Palmerston ; dated Paris, 3d Novem- ber 1834 - - ... ... 487 (8.) — Tuscany. — George H. Seymour, Esq., to the Duke of Wellington ; dated Florence, 2gth December 1834 -'- - - - - - - 48B (9.) — Sicily. — The Hon. William Temple to the Duke of Wellington ; dated Naples, 21st January 1835. (One Enclosure.) .... - 489 (10.) — Buenos Ayres. — Hamilton Hamilton, Esq., to the Duke of Wellington ; dated Buenos Ayres, i6th February 1835. (One Enclosure.) - - 491 (11.) — Mexico. — Richard Pakenham, Esq., to the Duke of Wellington; dated Mexico, .26th March 1835 - - -- -,- - ■• - 491 (12.) — Frankfort — Thomas Cartwright, Esq., to Viscount Palmerston; dated Frankfort, l8th July 1835. (Two Enclosures.) - . - - - - 492 (13.) — Saxony. — The Hon. F. R. Forbes to Viscount Palmerston; dated Dresden, 1 2th May 1 835. (One Enclosure.) -..--.- 494 (14.) — Switzerland. — D. R. Morier, Esq., to Viscount Palmerston ; dated Bern, 26th June 1835. (One Enclosure.) .-.---. 495 (iSO — Sweden. — Sir Edward C. Disbrowe to Viscount Palmerston : dated Stock- holm, 29th July 1835. (Two Enclosures.) .--.-- 497 (16.)— Spain. — George Villiers, Esq., to Viscount Palmerston ; dated San Ilde- fonso, gth August 1835. (Two Enclosures.) _ . - . . 500 (17-) — Sardinia. — Sir Augustus Foster to Viscount Palmerston; dated Turin, 25th August 1835. (Two Enclosures.) ..---- 522 (18.) — France.^ — Earl Granville to Viscount Palmerston ; dated Paris, 31st August 1835. (Four Enclosures.) --------- 523 33. — Statement of the Money Votes by the House of Commons; specifying the Statute by which each was applied ,....--.--. ^68 34.— Abstract and List of Acts relating to the British Museum 570 FOUR PLANS of the Imperial Russian Library {to face p. 481). SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. '293 Appendix, No. 1. ANNUAL PRINTED ACCOUNTS of Receipts and Payments ; of Funds ; of Book Fund, ALiTSD,Tri8l2-183r °'^^^^™^'^"«''; ^"d l^^TURNs of the Number of Persons I.— ACCOUNT of the BRITISH MUSEUM for 1811 :_INCOME AND EXPENDITURE. i8n 3 April 9 May 5 June 11 Sept. l8l2 11 Feb. i8ii: 7 June i8i2 ; 17 Feb, Income : Balance in hand from the last Year - - . Received from Mr. Plants, on account of the sale of Synopsis - Ditto - - - ditto . A Balance from the Hand-in-Hand Insurance Office, on settling the Account ... --... Received Net Produce of Duplicate Coins -. - The Parliamentary Grant of iBii -, - - . King's Librarian's Salary, four Quarters, to the ii Oct. i8ii - One Year's Dividend on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities, to 11 Oct. 1811 ' . . L Received Net Produce of Duplicate Prints - - . . Received from Sale of the Description of the Terra Cottas Profit on a Loan from Major Edwards's Fund of 3,140^ 144. 1 1 d. Old South Sea Annuities, replaced - - - Sum Deficient - - - . . £. 1 Expenditure: ^~" Carried to the Account of the Gallery of Antiquities Paid for Purchase of 1 ,089 1. Old S. S. Annuities, towards re- placing Loan from Major Edwards's Fund . - . . Paid for Purchase of 166/. 12 s. 6d. Old S. S. Annuities, also towards replacing Loan from Major Edwards's Fund Paid to Major Edwards's Fund at different times - . . N.B. — The Sum of 41:2 1. 16 *., part of this, was laid out in pur- chase of 714/. 13s- Old S. S. Annuities; making present Total S. S. Annuities 8,058/. 12*. id. The Expenditure for 1811, under the usual Heads of Payment: Board Wages ---.--.-. Garden Expenses --------. Rent and Taxes --------- Salaries and Wages ------ Bookbinding - - - - - -.- Coals --- -. --.. Candles, and Lamplighter --...-. Incidents ------- -- Officers for extra Services ---.... Print Arrangement -------- Repairs, as under : TheWestsideoftheBuildings, in the Great Court, £.1,160 5 1 The ordinary Works 6? 155 Additional Print Cases 85-- For securing the Saloon Floor, and Works in the Saloon .•-.--.-- 398 3 7 Cases for Minerals 873 5 8 Painting the Outside of the West Wing - - 32 19 1 Heads of Repair, not provided for in the former Estimate : Double Windows in the Print Room - - - 1448 Door and fitting up Old Medal Room - - - 31 19 - Repair of Mr. Planta's Apartments - - - 367 16 6 Stand for the Portland Vase - - - - 33 9 2 Two Water Closets 158 144 Baize Doors to Reading Room - - - - 17 3 - Table for the Saloon and two Chairs - - - 15 13 - Labourer in Trust - 52-- Surveyor - - - 192 19 11 Repair of the Engine r Stationery -.--.---- A Table for the Committee Room . . - . - £. £. s. 85^ !9 33 11 41 d. 4 3 2 3 9 19 692 18 7.998 2 271 10 900 -. 671 7 528 17 22 15 2 12,023 a 5 1,272 2 11 '3.395 5 4 2,243 17 6 692 18 9 104 7 - 567 - - 208 - - 70 - - 491 7 9 2,793 11 6 267 9 10 387 - - 65 19 - 243 11 4 780 - - 98 19 6 4,104. 18 S 66 J4 6 83 5 3 36 5 - 13.295 5 4 Appendix, No. 1. lleccipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 479- p p 3 294 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, mid Adoiissiuiis, 1812—1835. 2.— FUNDS AND ESTIMATE FOR 1812. Funds ; King's Librarian's Salary - . - . . One Year's Dividend on 30,000 I. Reduced Annuities The Sum Required £. s. d. 271 - - 900 - - 3,171 - - 7,405 12 11 8,576 12 11 Estimate : Fixed Expenses: Board Wages ... Garden Expenses Rent and Taxes - Salaries and Wages Estimated Expenses: Bookbinding ... Coals - Candles and Lamplighter Incidents - - - Officers for extra Services Print Arrangement Repairs : For repairing the Garden Steps The ordinary Works Incidents - - - Apartments in the West Wing £. 340 - 755 - 179 10 262 - Stationerj' .... ....... For the Publication of the Description of the Catalogue of the Terra Cottas Deficiency of the last Year 208 70 495 2,795 250 400 65 250 600 50 1,536 10 - 85 - - 500 - - 7,304 10 - 1,272 2 11 8,576 12 11 3.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 10th day of May 1807, to the 10th day of April 1812. From 10 May 1807 to the 10 May 1808. From 10 May 1808 to the 10 May 1809. From 10 May 1809 to the 10 May 1810. From 10 May 1810 to the 10 May 1811. Fron- 10 May 1811 to the 10 April 1812. Mat 155 1,368 960 2,685 2,772 June - - - 1,644 1,652 2,028 3,317 3,068 July - - - . 1,905 1,836 1,932 4,706 6,379 October 1,585 1,757 1,868 3,514 3,283 November ... 1,225 1,640 1,267 1,668 2,385 December - - - 741 951 787 1,634 1,299 January 1,443 1,300 1,680 2,255 3,033 February - . - 91.5 1,133 1.092 2,072 2,073 March - - - 1,352 1,807 1,378 3.140 2,222 April - - 1,010 1,151 1,321 3,054 965 Mat - - - - 471 795 884 1,107 — 13,046 15,390 15,197 29,152 27,479 The present mode of Public Admission did not take place till the month of April 1810. The aforegoing Account, Statement and Return, have been E.\amined. 14 April 1812. Edward Bray, Secretary. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 295 1.— RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS, FOR THE YEAR 1812. Receipts : Profit on Exchequer Bills in the 5'ear i8ii One Year's Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities King's Librarian's Salary - - Parliamentary Grant ------->..., £. N.B — The sum of 436 Z. 3*. was received this year, from Sale of the Description of the Gallery, and was applied in diminution of ~~ the Advances made for the Publication. Payments : Board Wages -..-.... ... Garden Expenses ........... Rent and Taxes --- ........ Salaries and Wages ------..... Bookbinding ............ Coals -----.-.-. ... Candles and Lamplighter -...-..... Incidents ............. Officers, for extra Services .--.-'-.. Print Arrangement -- -- -- -- Repairs ..-. ... ... Stationery - - " Gallery of Antiquities, Excess of Payment on the whole Account, beyond the") Receipts- ..„ .... ...j Paid the Arrears of 1811 ... To Balance in hand £. £. s. d. 102 16 - 900 - - 271 10 - 7>403 15 5 8,678 1 5 189 3 - 70 - - S'i5 14 4 2,845 14 10 145 2 3 299 10 - 95 4 - 180 18 11 400 - - 23 13 10 1,409 4 5 107 12 - 940 10 - 7,232 1,272 7 7 2 n 8,504 10 6 17s 10 11 8,678 Appendix, No. 1 , Receipts, Payments, and Adtnisaions', 1812—1835. 2.— FUNDS AND ESTIMATE, FOR THE YEAR 1813. Funds for Year 1813 : Balance on account of the year i8i 2 . . - . . . King's Librarian's Salary - - - - - - Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities - - - - - Estimate of charge for 1813: Fixed Expenses : Board Wages ....-----•■ Garden Expenses .... ...-/ Rent and Taxes ---------- Salaries and Wages - , - - - - Estimated : Bookbinding. .1'. Coals -------- ..- Candles and Lamplighter ... . . . . Officers for extra Services .... . Print Arrangement . - - - . - - Repairs _--- - -,-- Stationery ---- ------ The Publication of the Description of the Marbles Deduct -Funds in hand The Sum to be provided to answer the Expenses of the year 1813 - For the Book Fund - - - -- - - -- An Imprest for the year 1814, to answer the current Expenses till the Farlia mentary Grant can be received ; which is never issued till after the Session of the year --.--.---- Total - - £. s. d - 173 10 n - 271 10 - - 900 - - £. i>345 - 11 200 - 70 - - - 525 - - - 2,900 — — - 200 _ _ - 350 - - — 95 800 "■ ~" 30 1,768 : : - 105 - - - 500 - - 7>543 - - - 1,345 - 11 . 6,197 19 1 - 1,000 - - lia- ion > 1,000 — " £. 8,197 19 1 479- p p 4 296 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Adtnissioiis, 1812—1835. 1812: .9 September 3— ACCOUNT OF THE Bt)OK FUND Income : Received by a Parliamentary Grant, to complete the Collection of] Printed Books respecting the Brilish Islands, and the several ]■ Possessions of the British Empire ... Expenditure : Paid Messrs. Longman & Co. for Books . Messrs. Longman's Bill for Books sent in • Arrowsraith's Bill for Maps and Charts sent in Faden's Bill for County Maps sent in Balance I of] £. s. d. ral J> 1,000 - \ . 52 18 6 -■ 370 H 9 74 19 - - 96 13 6 595 5 9 404 14 3 £. 1,000 - - The three last Bills arc about to be paid, but ase not actually paid. 4.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO A VIEW OF THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 10th day of May 1807, to the'oth day of April 1813. From 10 May 1807 10 the 10 May 1808. From 10 May 1808 to the 10 May 1809. From 10 May 1809 to the 10 May 1810. From 10 May 1810 to the 10 May 1811. From 10 May 1811 to the 10 April 1812. From 13 April 1812 to the 9 April 1813. April . - - . . 2,530. May 755 1,368 960 2,685 2,772 3,360 June 1,644 1,652 2,028 3,317 3,068 4,828 July 1,905 1,836 1,932 4,706 6,379 6,276 OCTOBIiR - 1,585 1,757 1,868 3.514 3,283 2,392 November 1,225 1,640 1,267 1,668 2,385 1.971 December - 741 951 787 1,634 1,299 1,195 January - 1,443 1,300 1,680 2,255 3,033 3,020 February 915 1,133 1,092 2,072 2,073 2,239 March 1,352 1,807 1,378 3,140 2,222 2,5?3 ' April 1,010 1,151 1,321 .3,054 965 972 May - 471 795 884 1,107 — — ' 13,046 15,390 15,197 29,152 27,479 31,309 The present mode of Public Admission did not take place till the month of April iBio, 12 May 1813. Edward Bray, Secretary, SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 297 -RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS, FOR THE YEAR ENDING 25 MARCH 1814. Receipts : Balance of the year i8i 2 ----..-... One Year's Dividends on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities One Year's Salary of the King's Librarian' ....... Parliamentary Grant for the present year . An Imprest for the year 1814 ----..,*.. Profit on Exchequer Bills --..-. ... Total Annual Receipt - - - £. Borrowed from the Book Fund, t. Account No. 4 - £.884 18 1 Remaining Deficiency - - - - . - 1,7213- ToTAL Balance Deficient . - - - £. Payments : ""^ Repaid to Major Edwards's Fund .--..... Officers' Salaries --.-.-. .... Ditto - - for extra Services .... ... Wages of Attendants and Servants - - ..... Servants' Board Wages ---...-... Rent and Taxes -- ......... Gardener's Salary ....-._.... Bookbinding ............ Stationery --------.-.-. Coals -- ..--.-..... Candles and Lamplighting .--.-..- Incidents - ......... Repairs, including the Surveyor's Commission ... Total Ordinary Expenses - - - £. Excess of Payments above the Receipt on Account of the Publications, \ V. iifccount No. 3 -.-.-.-..J General Total - - - £. £. s. d. 173 10 11 900 - - !J71 10 - 6,196 1 7 1,000 - - 113 6 9 8,654 9 3 2,606 11,260 10 4 7 9 624 1,835 1,050 -- - 9^9 13 - 213 4 - 496 6 7 70 - - 201 - 11 102 8 4 313 15 - 121 12 - 250 17 3 2,223 19 6 8,422 2,838 4 4 6 - Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payments, , and Admissions, 1812—1835. 11,260 10 4 2.— FUNDS AND ESTIMATE, FOR THE YEAR ENDING 25 MARCH 181S. Funds: Dividends on 30,000 /. Reduced Annuities, for one Year Salary of the King's Librarian, for one Year ■ Estimate of Charges; Fixed Expenses : Officers' Salaries - - Wages of Attendants and Servants Servants' Board Wages Gardener's Salary Labourer in Trust - - ... Rent and Taxes . - - , _ . Estimated Expenses: Extra Allowances to the Officers - , - Bookbinding - - - - - Stationery - ...... Coals ..------ Candles and Lamplighting - - - Incidents - - • ■ - Ordinary Repairs - - - - ' - Extra Repairs -..---- Surveyor's Commission (he having no Salary) ■Deficiency of the last Year General Total - - - £• Deducting the Funds above specified - - Remains to be provided towards the Expenses of the present Year £. £. s. d. 900 - - 271 10 - 1,171 10 - 1,860 - - 919 13 - 213 4 - 70 - - 52 - - 496 6 7 1,050 - - 200 - - 100 - - 350 - - 100 - - 250 - - 755 - - 325 16 8 55 6,797 - 3 2,606 1 1 9,403 1 4 1,171 10 - 3,231 11 4 479- Q Q 298 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payments, and A-dniissions, 1812-1835. -GENERAL STATEMENT OF ALL PAYMENTS AND RECEIPTS ON ACCOUNT OF PUBLICATIONS, FROM 1812 TO 25 MARCH 1814. Payments : For printing Three Parts of the Descriptions of the Gallery Ditto - the Catalogue of Greek Coins - . - . - Ditto - , the Catalogue of printed Books - . . . Ditto - Six Editions of tke Synopsis, together with Gratuities to the Officers for preparing, and the Messenger for distributing the same Receipts : By Sale of Two Parts of the Descriptions of the Gallery . . - Ditto - the Catalogue of Greek Coins - . . - . •Ditto - the, Catalogue of printed Books ------ Ditto - the Synopsis . - - - - Two Sums of 500 1, each, allowed in the Grants of the years 1812 and 1813 £.6,115 1 - 3,276 15 - Balance - £.2,838 6 - f. s. d. - 3,062 19 6 588 2 3 - 1,369 14 6 ersl 1,004 4 9 ^. 6,115 1 - . 919 18 _' - 143 - - - 41 11 - - 1,172 6 - - 1,000 — - £. 3,276 15 - Mem. — Further Suras are accruing from the progressive Sale of the several Publications above named, towards liquidating the above Balance. 4.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Received two Parliamentary Grants of 1,000 Z. each, for the purchase of Books on the History and Topography of the British Dominions - - - . Amount of Purchases - -'- - - - £. 917155I For binding and Cases - - - - - - - 197, 6 6j Balance remaining ~ - £, £. s. d. 2,000 - - 1,115 1 11 . 884 18 1 5.— A RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From 10 May 1807, to 25 March 1814. From 10 May 1807 to the 10 May 1808. JFrom 10 May 1808 to the 10 May 1809. From 10 May 18*9 te the 10 May 1810. IFrom 10 May 1810 to the 10 May 1811. From 10 May 1811 to the 10 April 1812. From 13 April 181a to the 9 April 1813. From 9 April 1813 to the 25 March 1814. April - . . . . • > _ . . 2,530 1,338 May 755 1,368 960 2,685 2,772 3,360 4,038 June 1,644 1,652 2,028 3,317 3,068 4,828 3,979 July 1,905 1,836 1,932 4,706 6,379 6,276 5,393 October 1,585 1,757 1,868 3,514 3,283 2,392 2,493 November 1,225 1,640 1,267 ■1,668 2,385 1,971 1,952 December 741 951 787 1,634 1,299 1,198 1,274 January 1,443 1,300 ],68o 2,255 3,033 3,020 1,559 February 915 1,133 1,092 2,072 2,073 2,239 1,732 March - 1,352 1,807 1,378 3,140 2,222 2,523 1,272 April 1,010 1,151 1,321 3,054 965 972 — May 471 795 884 1,107 — — — • 13,046 15,390 15,197 29,152 27,470 31,309 25,030 Mem.— The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when betweai the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. ' ' 4 April 1814. Henry Ellis, Acting Sec'. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 299 i.-GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1815. Receipts : Balance, 26th March 1814- One Year's Dividend on 30,000^. Reduced Annuities Three Quarters' Salary of the King's Librarian, to 5th July 1814 - Parliamentary Grant for general Purposes, for the year ending 25th March 1814 Ditto - - - - for Book Fund - . . ... . . Ditto - - - - for the Alexandrian MS. --._.. Profit on Exchequer Bills ------.._. Produce of Publications ------... Borrowed, From Major Edwards's Fund, in the year ending 25th March 1815 - - - Total ..--£. Payments : Officers' Salaries (Five Quarters) to Lady-day 1815 .... Ditto - - - for extra Services - - - . . _ Wages and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants (Five Quarters) to D" Rent and Taxes (Six Quarters) to Lady-day 1815 - - _ . - Gardener's Salary (not paid) -----..-. Bookbinding ---.-.-.... Stationery -- .... _.-. Coals .----..-..... Candles and Lamplighting (including Illuminations) . . _ . incidents, for sundry. Articles of domestic use - . - . . Repairs, including the Surveyor's Commission ----- Imprest to Messrs. Baber and Konig, sent to Munich - - - - Printing Catalogue of printed Books - - . . . Ditto Description of Gallery - - - - . - . Ditto - Alexandrian MS. Purchases in Natural History . . . _ . Ditto - of Books ..-- .-.. Ditto - o^ Medals, &c. Printer's Bill, Sundries -_---..-- Total „ , J. fRECEIPTS Balance or ^ r? I^EXPENSES Surplus in hand - - £. . s. d. 15(335 13 5 ^5,019 8 3 £. 316 5 2 £. d. 1,035 16 5 900 - - 203 11 9 8,229 13 10 1,000 - - 1,998 2 6 81 2 2 258 16 9 1,628 10 - 15,335 13 5 2,205 - - 1,125 .- _ 1,336 17 3 649 6 9 223 131 13 380 15 237 7 170 1 3,752 6 300 - 447 18 594 8 1,351 7 257 11 490 8 1,328 10 37 13 11 6 15,019 8 3 Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 2.— ACCOUNT OF MAJOR EDWARDS'S FUND. Original Amount of the Fund -.-..- Amount on 25th March 1815 Mem. Lent to General Purposes, iu the year ending 25th March 1815 Old S. S. A. £. s. d. 7,933 - - 6,489 19 7 £.1,628- 10 - 3— ACCOUNT OF WORKS PUBLISHED, from 1812 to 25 March 1815. 594 8 Payments : For printing and engraving Three Parts of the Description of 1 .. r. the Gallery, to 25th March 1814 j- t. 3,002 19 Ditto - to 25th March 1815 For Catalogue of Greek Coins, to 25th March 1814 - For Catalogue of printed Books, to 25th March 1814 Ditto - - - - - - to 25th March 1815 For Synopis, to 25th March 1814 - - . - - Ditto - to 25th March 1815 - _ - - - Total 1,369 14 447 18 1,094 4 147 17 £. s. d. -[ 3,657 7 6 588 2 3 1,817 12 6 1,242 1 9 £. . 7,305 4 - 479- Q Q 2 (continued) 300 ■W' APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, , 1812—1835. Receipts : By Sale of 2. Parts of Description of Gallery, to 25th March 1814, £.919 18 - "I Ditto to 25th March 1815 123 18 9 J By the Catalogue of Greek Coins, to 25th March 1814 - - g6 12 - \ Ditto to 25th March 1 8 15 - ■ 121 16 -J By Catalogue of printed Books, to 25th March 1814 - - 41 11 - 1 Ditto to 25th March 1815 - - 23 9 - J By Synopsis, to 25th March 1814 ..... 1,172 6 -1 Ditto - to 25th March 1815 ....-- ig^ _ _ J Total -..-£. Mem. — This Balance will be reduced by the gradual Produce of Sales. Balance - - - £. £. s, d. 1,043 16 9 218 8 _ 65 - - 1,369 6 - £. Lent to General Purposes £. 1,696 10 9 4,608 13 3 4.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Received Three Parliamentary Grants of 1,000 /. for the Purchase of Books Amount of Purchases since 1812 .-.-.. Lent to General Purposes ... . - - - £. s. d. 2,994 13 6 1,605 9 11 i>389 3 7 2,994 13 6 5.— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Received Parliamentary Grant, net ....---. Expended for printing this MS. by command of IL R. H. The Prince Regent - £. ■ s. d. 1 1,998 2 6 ■ 1,351 7 - 646 15 6 1,998 6.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF FUNDS AND ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, For the Year ending 2-5 March 1816. Funds : Balance in the hands of the Cashier and Expenditor One Year's Dividend on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities One Year's Salary of the King's Librarian, net Estimated Expenditure ; Officers' Salaries - - - _ . - Ditto - for extra Services - . - Wages and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants Gardener's Salary (,2 Years) . - . - - Labourer in Trust ... Rent and Taxes ....... Bookbinding .... Stationery ... .... Coals .... - . Candles and Laraplighting - . - . - Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use Ordinary Repairs ....-- Extra Repairs ..-..- Printing Catalogue of printed Books . - . Ditto - and engraving Description of the Gallery £. Total Current Expenditure ... Annual Grant for Book Fund -..-.-.. Ditto - for preserving and enlarging the Collection of Natural History Ditto " " ' -"r- " ' for Alexandrian MS. Fund General Total - Deducting the Amount of Funds above specified Remains to be provided for the Expense of the present Year • 316 5 2 900 - - 271 10 - 1,487 15 3 1,870 1,145 1,069 140 52 493 220 130 380 100 250 755 1,000 450 500 8,554 - - 1,000 - - 250 - - 2,000 - - 11,804 - - 1,487 A5- 2 10,316 4 10 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 301 -RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From 10 May 1808, to 25 March 1815. From From From From From From From 10 May i8o8 10 May 1809 10 May iSlo 10 May 1811 13 April 181a 9 April 1813 26 March 1814 to the to the to the to the to the to the to the 10 May 1809. 10 May 1810. loMay i8u. 10 ApriLi8i2. 9 April 1813. 25 March 1814. 25 March 1815. March - . „ _ ■ •• . . - 456 April - - - . . 2,530 1,338 2,244 May 1,368 960 2,685 2,772 3,360 4,038 4,383 JUNE 1,652 2,028 3,317 3,068 4,828 3,979 5,703 July 1,836 1.932 4,706 6,379 6,276 5,393 5,249 October 1,757 1,868 3,514 3,283 2,392 2,493 4,025 November 1,640 1,267 1,668 2,385 1.971 1;952 2,259 December 951 787 1,634 1,299 1,198 1,274 1,627 January 1,300 1,680 2,255 3,033 3,020 1.559 3,591 February 1,133 1,092 3,072 2,073 2,239 1.733 2,396 March - 1,807 1,378 3,140 2,222 2,523 1.272 1,141 April - 1,151 1,321 3,054 ■ 965 972 May 795 884 1,107 — — 15,390 15,197 29,152 27.479 31,309 25,030 33.074 Mem. — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Twp, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. The present mode of Admission did not take place till the month of April i8io. 24 April 1815, Henri/ Ellis, Secretary. 1. —GENERAL ACCOUNT OF RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1816. Receipts : Balance 26th March 1815, corrected - -- One Year's Dividend on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities, Property Tax deducted - One Year's Salary of the King's Librarian, to 5th July 1815 - - . . Parliamentary Grant for the year ending 25th March 1816, 7,066?. 44. lod. net Profit on Exchequer Bills - ...-.-.. Produce of Publications ..--..-... Borrowed from Major Edwards's Fund Borrowed from the Alexandrian MS. Fund ---..-- Total - - - £. Payments Officers' Salaries to Lady-day 1816 Ditto - - for extra Services --. - Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants Rent and Taxes to Michaelmas 1816 Gardner's Salary (two years) to Michaelmag 1815 Bookbinding -..--- ..... Stationery ----- Coals ......------- Candles and Lamplighting - Incidents for sundry Articles of domestic use .-■.... Repairs, from 31st December 1814 to 30th September 1815, 763?. lys. g^d.,'] ■ only the Glazier's Bill paid - J Printing Description of Gallery -- Expenses of Baron de Moll's Library Paidfor Purchases in Natural History, above the Parliamentary Grant - Ditto for Purchase of Books - - - ditto - - - ditto - Expense of Autograph Letters Total - - £. £. 316 810 271 7.064 111 197 3.504 1.075 11 2 8 7 6 3 11 3 4 3 10 13.350 10 1,881 - 6 1,420 8 6 1.259 - 8 284 - 9 140 - - 535 12 179 15 349 17 150 2 132 - 53 7 821 1 4,777 17 326 17 341 18 200 - 12,852 19 10 Appendix, No i . Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. T, , c r Receipts ^^'^"'^^ °f [expenses - Surplus in hand - £. s. d. 13,350 10 7 13,852 19 10 £. 497 10.9 479' Q Q 3 302 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 2.— ACCOUNT OF MAJOR EDWARDS'S FUND. Original Amount of the Fund - - . . . Amount of the Fund, 25th March 1815 One Quarter's Dividend was received 8th April 1815 27th April 1815, sold out 1,000 Z. at 55 1 8th May 1815, sold 5,489^. 19*. ^d. at 57I - Paid a Balance due upon this Account, to the General Pur- poses of the year ending 25th March 1815, of - Applied to General Purposes, for the year ending 25th1 March i8i6 /' " - £. 3 6 9 £. s. d. 7.933 - - - 6,489 19 7 - 'f.87 12 ■ 557 6 - 3,129 5 3,774 4 V 269 12 6 8 £■ 3,504 1 1 10 3— ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED. Payments : Printing and engraving the Description of the Gallery of Antiquities, for the"! year ending 25th March 1816- - - - - - -j Receipts : By Sale of the Description of the Gallery By ditto of the Catalogue of Greek Coins By ditto of the Synopsis . - - Applied to General Purposes - £. 124 6 - 21 - - 51 17 - - £-197 3 - £. s. d. 821 1 - 4.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Received a Parliamentary Grant, for the year 1816, of - Amount of Purchases in the year ending Z5th March 1816 Borrowed from the General Funds - - £. s. d. - 1,000 - - - 1,341 18 2 £. 341 18 2 5.— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Received a Parliamentary Grant, for the year 1816, of - Expended in the year ending 25th March 1816 -.-... Lent to General Purposes ----£. £. s. d. 2,000 - - 924 17 - 1,075 3 - 6.— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Received a Parliamentary Grant, for the year 1816, of - Amount of Purchases in the year ending 25th March 1816 Borrowed from the General Fund _ £. s. d. 250 - - . 576 17 9 £. 326 17 9 7.— GENERAL AMOUNT OF FUNDS AND ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, For the Year ending 25 March 1817. Funds : Balance in the hands of the Cashier ... One Year's Dividend on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities One Year's Salary of the King's Librarian £. £. s. d. 497 10 9 900 - - 271 10 - 1,669 '- 9 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 303 Estimated Expenditure: Officers' Salaries Ditto for extra Services ----__._ Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - - '. Gardener's Salary Rent and Taxes, with half a year's Arrears - . . - . Bookbinding ------.... 'Stationery »-----...... Coals -----.-..... Candles and LampHghting --....... Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - Hepairs unpaid ----...... Fitting up Furniture, &c. ---..... Printing and Engraving ---.._.. Total Current Expenditure - - - Annual Grant for Book Fund ... .... Ditto - for preserving and enlarging the Collection of Natural History - Ditto - for the Alexandrian MS. - . . . . General Total - - . Deduct the Sums above specified - - . . . Remains to be provided, for the Year ending 25th March 1817 £. s. d. - 2,l8l - — . 1,500 — — - 1,260 - _ - 70 - - - 739 10 - . 300 — — . 180 - - - 350 - - - 150 - - - 132 - — - 710 10 3 - 100 - - - 1,000 - - £. 8,673 - 3 _ 1,000 - - f - 250 - - - 2,000 — - £. 11,923 - 3 - 1,669 - 9 £. 10,253 19 6 Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 8.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From 10 May 1809, to 25 March 1816. From 10 May 1809 to the 10 May 1810. From 10 May 1810 to the 10 May 1811. From 10 May 1811 to the 10 April 1812, From 13 April 1812 to the 9 April 1813. From 9 April 1813 to the 25 March 1814. From 26 March 1814 to the 25 March 1815. ' From ' 26 March 1815 to the 25 March 1816. March . - ■456 April - . ... . 2,530 1,338 2,244 3,696 May 960 2,685 2,772 3,360 4,038 4,383 4,498 June 2,028 3,317 3,068 4,828 3,979 5,703 5,572 July 1,932 4,706 6,379 6,276 5,393 4,249 6,180 October 1,868 3,514 3,283 2,392 2,493 5,025 4,588 November 1,267 1,668 '2,385 1,971 1,952 2,259 1,048 December 787 1,634 1,299 1,198 1,274 1,627 1.699 January i,68o 2,255 3,033' 3,020 1,559 3,591 3,887 February 1,092 2,072 2,073 2,239 1,732 2^396 1,887 March - 1,378 3,140 2,222 - 2,523 1,272 1,141 2,526 April 1,321 3,054 9^5 972 — — — May - 884 1,107 — — — — — 15,197 29,152 27,479 31,309 25,030 33,074 35,581 Mem. — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application, The present mode of Admission did not take place till the month of April 1810. Thomas Keith, Accountant. 479- (104 304 Appendix, No. APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE 1. Receipts, Payments, . and Admissions, 1812—1835. 1. --GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1817. Receipts; Balance 26th March 1816 .... -.... One year and a half Dividend on 30,000 1. Red. Ann. to 5th April 1817 - Nine months' Annuity for keeping the King's Library, to the 5th April 181G Allowance of Property Tax -.-...... Pr6duce of the Sale of Minerals ---.--_.. Produce of the Sale of Coins - . . . _ . Produce of the Sale of Publications - - - -g ' Profit on Exchequer Bills ■ -.--... Parliamentary Grant for Ordinary Expenses, 7,003 /. iQs.Gd. - - net Borrowed from the Alexandrian MS. Fund - - Total - - - f. Payments : "" Officers' Salaries to Lady-day 1817 * - Ditto - - for extra Services - - - . . . . Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - ... Ditto for extra Services -.-....... Rent and Taxes to Lady-day, one year and a half ...... Gardener's Salary to Michaelmas 1816 - Bookbinding . .._....... Stationery -. ......... Coals ...... . ... Candles and Lamplighting ...-.-.-.. Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use ...... Messrs. Pickering & Co., Solicitors .... . . Haifa year's Interest on the purchase of the Montague Collection of Zoology - Repairs unpaid in the year 1816 - - -- Drawings, Engravings, and printing Description of Gallery ... Fitting up Shelves, making Boxes, Drawers and Cabinets, for Purchases in Natural History -.._.......„ Purchases in Natural History, above the Parliamentary Grant - - Purchase of Books, above the Parliamentary Grant ..... Expenses of the Elgin Marbles, above the Parliamentary Grant ... Repairing the Phygalian Marbles .- Total - - £. Balance of {Receipts Expenses Surplus in hand £. s. d: 497 ID 1,305 - 203 10 201-16 9 3 210 3 784 17 472 7 134 13 7,001 17 1,085 12 8 2 6 9 11,897 8 6 2,175 - - 1,312 10 - 1,356 12 6 273 16 - 734 - & 70 - - 308 3 2 202 11 10 285 10 - 62 1 - 268 13 107 II 27 10 691 - 550 18 5 6 9 6 339 8 45 19 10 g. 10 17 285 - 9,H7 13 8 . £. s. d. 11,897 8 6 9,117 13 8 £. 2,779 14 10 2.— ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED. Payments ; Drawings, Engravings, and printing Description of the Gallery Receipts : By the Sale of the Description of Gallery By - ditto - - - - of the Marbles iiy - ditto - of the Catalogue of Greek Coins By - ditto - of the Catalogue of Books . - . - Lent to General Purposes - £. s. d. f - 550 18 6 £.291 123 15 8 6 8 25 31 4 19 - - £.472 7 2 3.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Received a Parliamentaiy Grant, for the year 1817, of - Amount of Purchases in the year ending 25th March 1817 Borrowed from the General Fund £. s. d. . - 1,000 - - - 1,010 9 2 £. 10 9' 2 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 4— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Received a Parliamentary Grant, for the year ] 817, of Expended in the year ended 25th March 1817 - Lent to General Purposes - - - £. Memoranda : Keceived in the whole three Parliamentary Grants of 2,000 1, each, amounting to 6.000/. net £.5,998 2 6 Borrowed from this Fund in the year i&i 5 - -£.64615 6 Ditto - - - - -1816- - 1,075 3 - T)itto - - . . 181.7 . . 1^085 12 9 Total Borrowed £. 2,807 11 3 305 2,000 - - 9H 73 1,085 12 9 Appendix, No. 1. Eeceipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1811—1835. 5.— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Received a Parliamentary Grant, for the year 1817, of - Amount of Purchases in the year ending 25th March 1817 Borrowed from the General Fund - - - £. s. d. 250 - - 295 19 3 £. 45 '9 3 6.— ACCOUNT OF THE ELGIN MARBLES. Receipts : Received a Parliamentary Grant of - £. 35,000 Ditto - for a temporary Building - - 1,700 Ditto - for removing the Elgin Marbles 800 Total Received - £. 37,500 net net net net Payments : To Messrs. Litchfield, Coutts & Trotter To Me.'isrs. Booth & Legatt - - - - For removing the Elgin Marbles The Deputy Surveyor-general, for the erection of a temporary Building ---------- Expenses attending the Elgin Marbles . . . - -£.15,470 13 2 - 19,529 6 10 798 - - 1,697 17 6 8 15 - Total Paid - - - £. Borrowed from the General Fund - - £. 34,997 17 6 1,697 17 6 798 - - 37,493 15 - 37,504 12 6 10 17 6 7.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, AND ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, For the Year ending 25 March 1818. Balance in, hand -- ...---- One Year's Dividend on 30,000 U Reduced Annuities Estimated Expenditure : . £. s. d. 2,779 '4 10 900 - - £. 3,679 14 10 ^ OflScers' Salaries ------------ Ditto - for extra Services ---------- Wages, Board Wages, &c. of Attendants and Servants . - - - - Rent and Taxes ------------ Gardener's Salary --- Bookbinding - - - - - - - - ' j.-- - Stationery ------------- Coals --•; Candles and Lamplighting ...- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use Fitting up Furniture, making Cabinets, &c. - - - - - - Printing and Engraving - - . 7 To replace the Sums borrowed from the Alexandrian MS. Fund Total Current Expenditure - - - £. Annual Grant for the Book Fund --------- For preserving and enlarging the Collection of Natural History - - - General Total '---£. Deduct the Sums above specified ------ Remains to be provided for the Year endihg' 25th March 1818 £. 470. " « 2,180 1,400 1,630 490 70 300 200 300 80 200 350 1,0Q0 2,807 11 3 11,007 11 3 1 ,000 - - 250 - - 12,257 3,679 * 8,577 11 3 14 10 16 5 306 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE 8— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From 10 May 1810, to 25 March 1817. From From ' ' From From From From From 10 May i8io 10 May i8tl 13 April l8l2 9 April 1813 26 March 1814 26 March 1815 26 March 1816 to the to the to the to the to the to the to the 10 May i8ll. 10 April 1812. 9 April 1813. 55 March 1814. •25 March 181 5. 25 March 1816. 25 March 1817. Makch - . . •> B * - a _ 456 _ » ■• 483 April - . . 2,530 1,338 2,244 3,696 2,931 May - 2,685 2,772 3,360 4,038 4,383 4,498 4.527 June 3,317 3,068 4,828 3,979 5.703 5,572 4,096 July 4,706 6,379 6,276 5,393 5,249 6,180 6,970 October 3,514 J3,a83 2,392 2,493 4.025 4.588 4,001 November 1,668 2,385 1,97 1 1,952 2,259 1,048 2,696 December 1,634 1,299 1,198 1,274 1,627 1,699 1,947 January . - 2,255 3,033 3,020 1,559 3,591 3,887 4,019 February 2,072 ' 2,073 2,239 1,732 2,396 1,887 4,315 March - 3,140 2,222 2,523 1,272 1,141 2,526 4,515 April - 3,054 9^5 972 — — — May - 1,107 — — — — — 29,152 27,479 31,309 25,030 33,074 35,581 40,500 Mem. — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. The present mode of Admission did not take place till the month of April 1810. Thomas Keith, Accountant. , No. Appendix Keceipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 1— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1818. General Receipts: Balance, 26th March 1817 -------.-. Half a Year's Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities - - - - - Produce of the Sale of Books, Waste Paper, &c. --_... Profit on Exchequer Bills -.-..---.. Parliamentary Grant, 8,577 ?. 16 s. 5 rf. net - Total - - . £. General Payments: Officers' Salaries ------------ Ditto - - for extra Services .-..----. Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - - . . Ditto - - for extra Services --------- Gardener's Salary ---..-.-.._ Rent and Taxes - .---....-. Bookbinding --------.-.. Stationery -.-.-- ...... Coals ----- --.-..-. Candles and Lamplighting ----- ---. Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use -.-... Repairs not paid by the Board of Works ---.-.. Fitting up Shelves, making Boxes, Drawers, &c. for Purchases in Natural History Purchases in Natural History -.. ----- Purchase of Coins ------.-... Purchase of Ancient Marbles - - - . - . . Greek Inscription of Tenos -- Printing Catalogue ; Drawings, Engravings, and Copperplate Printing of Gallery of Antiquities -------- .-. Pui'chase of Books ,. .. The Alexandrian MS. -- ----.-.. Total - - £. /Receipts Balance of Ie^^^,,, Surplus in hand £. ,. d. - 12,455 12 5 - 11,724 9 1 £. 731 ~ 3' 4 £. s, d. 2,779 14 10 450 - - 716 14 2 155 6 10 8,353 16 7 12,455 12 5 2,380 - - 1,260 10 6 1,243 4 262 g 70 - 400 14 434 12 158 17 343 10 62 6 222 9 550 15 401 2 460 7 80 2 68 15 60 - 1,280 6 2 1,039 13 3 944 13 - 11,724 9 t SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 307 3.— ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED. Payments : Printing. Vols. V. and VL of Catalogue, and Expenses of Sale - £. 353 iG - Drawings, Engravings and Copperplate Printing, Gallery of Antiquities -- gaS 10 2 Receipts : By the Sale of Description of Gallery - - - - -£.193 16 By Catalogue of Printed Books --.... 59 1- By Sale of Synopsis --.._... igg y 2 By Sale of Waste Paper 196 4 6 By Cash refunded for Packing Cases, &c. - - - - 75 _ _ Applied to General Purposes - - - £. 716 14 2 s. d. 1,280 6 2 Appendix, No. i . Receipts, Fayrnents, qnd Admissions, 1812—1835. 3.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Part of the Parliamentary Grant for the year 1818, allotted to the purchase of Books -------.-- ... Amount of Purchases in the year ending 25th March 1818 - - Excess above the Grant - - - £. £. «. d. 1,000 - T- 1.039 »3 2 39 13 a 4.— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS, FUND. Part of the Parliamentary Grant for the year 1818, allotted to repay the Suras borrowed from this Fund -.-.------ Expended in the year ending 25th March 1818, on account of copying and printing the said MS. Expended for General Purposes - £. £. s. d. 2,807 11 3 944 13 - 1,862 18 3 5.— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Part of the Parliamentary Grant for the year 1818, allotted to Natural History - Amount of Purchases in the year ending 25th March 1818 Excess above the Grant - - - £. £. *. d. 250 - - 4t)0 7 8 210 7 8 6.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, AND ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, For the Year ending 25 March 1819. Balance in hand - ' - One Y^ear's Dividend on 30,000 /. Reduced Annuities £. £. s. d. 731 3 4 900 — - 1,631 3 4 Ji[ote. —The Duplicates, which are about to be sold, are expected to produce the sum of 1,000 1. ; which sum has been engaged for the purchase of the Ginguenee Library at Paris. The Duplicates of Dr. Burney's Library, which cannot be sold before the year 1819, are expected to produce a sum of between 3,000 ^. and 4,000/.; and will be brought into the Account as a Deduction from the Grant of Parliament for that year. Estimated Expendituxe : Officers' Salaries -------- Ditto - for extra Services - . - Wages, Board Wages, &c. of Attendants and Servants - Gardener's Salary - - Rent and Taxes -- Bookbinding - - - -- -- Stationery - - * - - -' - 479' ^ ^ '^ 2,380 1,400 1,550 70 525 375 160 {continued) 308 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i . Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. Estimated Expenditure — continued. Coals - ....---.. Candles and ^.amplighting -------- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use . . . - - Repairs, independent of the Board of Works, fitting up Shelves, making Boxes, &c. for Purchases in Natural History . . - . . Preserving and enlarging the Collection of Natural History - - - - Printing and Engraving -- ■-.--. For the Purchase of Books --------- Alexandrian MS. -- -.--.-. Estimate for removal of Dr. Burney's Library, Marbles, &c. - - - - General Total - - - £. Deduct the Sums above specified, No. 6 - - • - Itemains to be provided for the year ending Q5th March i8ig - - - £. £. s. d. 350 - - 65 - - 200 r- - 400 - - 250 - ^ 1 ,000 - - 500 - - 920 - - 150 - - 10,295 _ _ 1,631 3 4 8,663 16 8 7.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From 10 May 1811, to 26 March 1818. From 10 May 1811 to the 10 April 1812. From 13 Api'il i8i2 to the 9 April 1813. From 9 April 1813 to the 25 March 1814. From 26 March 1814 to the 25 March 1815. From 26 March 1815 to the 25 March 1816. From 26 March 1816 to the 25 March 1817. From 25 March 1817 to the 25 March i8l8. March - . - . . . - - . - 456 - . . 483 1,278 ' April - . 2,530 1,338 2,244 3,696 2,931 5,095 May - 2,772 3,360 4,038 4,383 4,498 4,527 5,455 June 3,068 4,828 3,379 5,703 5,572 4,096 ■ 8,012, July 6,379 6,276 5,393 5,249 6,180 6,970 8,977 October 3,283 2,392 2,493 4,025 4,588 4,001 5,226 November 2,385 1,971 1,952 2,259 1,048 2,696 i>745 December 1.299 1,198 1,274 1,627 1,699 1.947 2,889 January 3,033 3,020 1,559 3,591 3,887 4,019 5,274 February 2,073 2,239 1,732 2,396 1,887 4,315. 3,226 March - 2,222 2,523 1,272 1,141 2,526 4,515 2,995 April - 965 -972 — — — — May — — — — — — — 27,479 31,309 25,030 33,074 35,581 40,500 50,172 Mem. — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. The present mode of Admission did not take place till the month of April 1810. British Museum,"! 18 May 1818. J Thomas Keith, Accountant. 1— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS, - For the Year ending 25 March 1819. General Receipts : Balance, 26th March 1818 - . . One Year's Dividend on 30,000 Z. Three per cent. Reduced Annuities, to the 10th of October 1818 Cash received for the Sale of printed Books By Sale of Catalogue of Greek Coins, Description of Sculpture, &c. Profit on Exchequer Bills -- ------- Cash received from the Sale of duplicate Books out of Dr. Burney's Library - Parliamentary Grant of 8,663 ^. 1 6 *. 8 J5 ' 302 n6 300 79 1 1 735 4 - 1,613 8 7 474 8 6 12 19 14 10 3 10 15 11 16 6 1 6 6 3 2 6 11,722 8- 6 Appendix, No. 1. j^_ Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 2._ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED. Pat.ments : Drawings, Engravings and Copperplate Printing of the Gallery of Antiquities - Receipts : For the Sale of printed Books, being duplicates - -£.1,065 12 3 For Sale of Catalogue of Greek Coins, description of Sculptures, &c. published by order of the Trustees .... 168 13 _ Applied to General Purposes £-i>234 5 3 £. s. 735 4 3.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Received a Parliamentary Gvant, for the year 1819, of - Amount of Purchases in the year i8ig, including the payment of Ginguenee'i Library, and the removal of Dr. Purney's Library .... ' Excess above the Grant - £. s. d. snee's 500 — — 1,613 8 7 - £. 1,113 8 7 4.-ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Received a Parliamentary Grant, for the year 1B19, of ... E.xpended in the year ending 25th March 1819 . . - - Applied to General Purposes - - - £. i'. d. 920 - - 474 8 6 £. 445 11 6 479- K K 3 310 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 5.-ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Received a Parliamentary Grant, for the year 1819, of - - - - - Amountof Purchases in the year ending 25th March 1819 - . Excess above the Grant - - - £, £. s. (I. 250 - - 302 II 2 52 11 2 6.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, AND ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, For the Year ending 25 March 1820. £. s. d. Balance in hand ------------ Sale of Duplicates of Dr. Barney's Library - - - - £.2,175 10 - Applied to General Purposes, for the year ending 25th March 1819, out of the above Sum ._--.. 300 - - Dividend on 30,000 1, Reduced Annuities ------- By Sale of Works on Ancient Marbles and Coins in the British Museum, pub- lished by order of the Trustees .-------. £, 167 - 8 1,875 10 - 900 - - 317 9 8 3.260 Note.— The Sale of the Duplicates of Dr. Burne/s Library was estimated to produce betvreen 3,000 /. and 4,000 1. ; the difference between the Estimate and the Amount returned arises in some measure from the deduction of the Sum of 527/. i8«., being the Amount of the Expenses of the Sale of Dr. Burney's Duplicates, but principally in consequence of Books to the Amount of 800 /. value being still retained in the Library of the British Museum, as they were, for the most part. Copies eminently superior to their respective Duplicates in the Cracherodian and other Collections presented to the Museum by various Benefactors, and therefore not to be parted with. Estimated Expenditure: Officers' Salaries ----- - ..-- Ditto - for extra Services - - - -,- Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - - - - - Rent and Taxes -- --------- Bookbinding ---. -«.-_. Stationery -- -- ..----. Coals -- ------- --. Candles and Lighting ------- --- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use ------ Fittings, Cases, Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works under the head of Repairs ------------- Bills due for ditto ----------- For adding to the Collection of Greek Marbles - - - - . For improving Collection of Mineralogy ------- For improving and preserving ditto of Zoology .--.-. For Purchases and Additions to the Collections of Mineralogy and Zoology Printing and Engraving ........ Purchase of Books -.---.--_.. Ditto - of MS. - - - . - . . . For the Alexandrian MS. ------.-.- For Purchase of a Collection of Zoology in the month of June 1816, 1,100/., and half a Year's Interest on ditto - - - - Gewerai, Total - - . £. Deduct the Sums before specified under No. 6 - - - Remains to be provided for the Year ending 25th March 1820 - - - £. £. «. d. 2,380 - - 1,4.08 - - 1,569 - - 53» - - 650 - - 162 - - 325 - - 110 - - 164 - - 400 - - 406 - - 1,000 - - 150 - - 100 - - 350 - - 970 - - 300 - - 50 - - 920 - - 1,127 lo - 13,072 10 - 3,260 - 4 9,812 9 8 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 311 7 RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From 13 April 1812, to 25 March 1819. From from From From From From From 13 April 1812 9 April 1813 26 March 1814 26 March 1815 26 March 1816 26 March 1817 26 March 1818 to the to the to the to the to the to the to the 9 April 1813. 25 Miirch 1814. 25 March 1815. 25 March 1816. 25 March 1817. 25 March 1818. 25 March 1819. N» N" N° No No NO No March - ... ... 456 . - - 483 1,278 823 April - 2,530 1,338 2,244 3,696 2,931 5.095 5.841 May 37360 4,038 4,383 4.498 4,527 5.455 7''87 June 4,828 6,276 3,979 5.703 5,572 4.096 8,012 8,607 July 5.393 5.249 6,180 6,970 8,977 8,967 October 2,392 2,493 4,025 4,588 4,001 5.226 8,676 November i;97i 1.95a 2,259 1,048 2,696 1,745 2,174 December 1,198 1.274 , 1,627 1.699 1.947 3,889 .3,157 January 3,020 1.559 3.591 3.887 4,019 5.274 8,085 February 2,239 1.732 2,396 1,887 4,315 3,226 4,782 March - 2,523 1.272 1.141 2,526 4.515 2.995 4.954 April - 972 — ^ — — — — — . 31,309 25.030 33,074 35.581 40,500 5o;i72 63.253 Mem. — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, in every Week ; when; between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. The present mode of Admission did not take place till the month of April 1810. British Museum,"! 12 May 1819. J Thomas Keith, Accountant. i.—GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS AND PAYMENTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1820. General Receipts : Balance, 26th March 1819 - - - - One Year's Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities Remaining Cash received for the Sale of Dr. Barney's Library Cash received for the Sale of printed Books Profit on Exchequer Bills -- ....... Parliamentary Grant of 10,018/. 16 «. 8 d. net - Total - - - £. £. s. d. 167 - 8 900 - - 1,875 10 - 495 - - 67 »3 4 10,016 14 a Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Pajmenis, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 13,521 18 3 General Payments: Officers* Salaries Ditto - - for extra Services "Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants Ditto - - for extra Services - ^ Rent and Taxes -- '.'.'.'. Bookbinding '. . '. Stationery - .'.'.'. Coals -_-------■""" Candles and Lamplighting --- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use Repairs not paid by the Board of Works ", ' . ' *, „.' Fitting up Shelves, making Boxes, &c. for purchases in Natural History - For additions to, and preserving of Natural History - - - - - Purchases ofMinerals and Fossils - ",*./„" Messrs. May and Allewyn, for the Marble Apotheosis of Homer - - - Printing Catalogue; Drawings, Engravings, and Copperplate Printing ot Gallery of Antiquities ''_ Purchase of Books The Alexandrian MS. " „ ' , ' •', t / » Mrs. Dorvjlle, for a Collection of Zoology, with Interest Total - - - £. 2,320 - - 1,360 - - 1,289 2 3 307 10 4 643 3 10 374 6 - 181 7 6 315 15 - 104 13 6 194 9 11 639 2 6 151 7 - 834 19 6 128 19 - 1 ,000 - - 701 18 - 307 16 2 1,068 14 6 1,127 10 - 13,050 15 - Receipts - - - Balance of >! _ l_ Expenses Surplus in hand - - £. s. d. 13,521 18 2 13.050 15 - £. 471 3 3 4,79- R R 4 312 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 2.— ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED. Payments : Printing Catalogue; Drawings, Engravings, and Copperplate Printing of "I Gallery of Antiquities --- ......j Receipts : For Sale of Catalogue of Greek Coins, description of Sculp-"1 j. _ tures, &c. published by order of the Trustees - - .|*-344 1° By the Sale of the Synopsis - - - - - - 150 94 Applied to General Purposes £.495 - - £. s. d. 701 18 ^ 3,— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for purchase of Books For Manuscripts £. 300 - - 50 - - Amount of Purchases of Books Expense less than Estimate £. s. d. 350 - - 307 16 2 42 3 10 4.— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Estimated Expense on this Account, for the year 1B20 Expended in the year ending 25th March 1820 . . - - Excess above the Estimate _ £. s. d. ' 920 - - 1,068 14 6 £. 148 14 6 5— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY Estimated Expense for the Year 1820 : 1. For improving the Collection of Minerals ... 2. For improving and preserving Zoology 3. For Purchase and Additions to ditto . - - - 4. An additional Estimate - - ... Expended in the Purchase of Minerals and Fossils For additions to and preserving of Natural History - Excess above the Estimates £.150 - - 100 - - - 350 - - - 206 7 - £. s. d. 806 7 - 963 18 6 ■ 128 19 - ■ 834 19 6 - £. 157 11 6 6. -ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending 25 March 1821. Funds ; Balance in hand ... Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities Note. — A Sum will be received in the course of the year, from the Sale of the Synopsis, and the Descriptions and Engravings of the Antiquities ; but as there is a demand on account of En- gravings purchased, .probably to a similar amount, no deduction is made from the general Estimate on account of the Sums so to b,e received. . £. s. d. 471 3 2 900 - - £. 1,371 3 2 7.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE. ^. Officers' Salaries --_- 2,370 Ditto - - for extra Services -.----...» 1,360 Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants, with extra Attendance 1,596 Rent and Taxes .-- ... .. 645 Bookbinding ...--..... 400 Stationery 200 Coals - - 320 Candles and Lamplighting --; 120 Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use 190 Fittin" up Shelves, Cases, &c. and Repairs not paid by the Board of Works - 400 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 313 7. — Estimated Expenditure — continued. For the purchase of Minerals ....... For improving and preserving the Collection of Zoology Printing and Engraving ... .... Purchase of Books ........ Purchase of Manuscripts ..--.... For the Alexandrian MS. ........ General Total . Deduct the Sums before specified under N° 6 - Remains to be provided for the Year ending 25 March 1821 - £. s. 500 - 730 - 1,200 - 306 - 50 - 1,000 - d. Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payments, and Expenditure, i8i2 — 1835. £. 11,381 - 1,371 3 2 £. 10,009 16 10 8._RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From 9 April 1813, to 25 March 1820. from From from From From From From 9 April 1813 26 March 1814 26 March 1815 26 March 1816 26 March 1817 26 March 1818 26 March 1819 to the to the to the to the to the to the to the 25 Marcli 1814. 25 March 1815. 25 March 1816. 25 March 1817. 25 March i8i8i 25 March 1819. 25 March 1820. N° No No NO No No No March . - - ... 456 ... 483 1,278 823 1,331 April - - - 1,338 2,244 3,696 2,931 5,095 5,841 5,613 May - - - 4,038 4,383 4,498 4,527 5,455 7,187 7,289 June ... 3,979 5,703 5,572 4,096 8,012 8,607 7,853 July - - - 5,393 6>249 6,180 6,970 8,977 8,967 9,647 October - - 2,493 4,025 4,588 4,001' 5,226 8,676 5,611 November - 1,952 2,259 1,048 2,696 1,745 2,174 4,037 December - - 1,274 1,627 1,699 ,1,947 2,889 3,157 2,767 January 1,559 3,591 3,887 4,019 5,274 8,085 3,994 February - - 1,732 2,396 1,887 4,315 3,226 4,782 1,594 March - - . 1,272 1,141 3,526 4,515 2,995 4,954 3,879 25,030 33,074 - 1 35,581 40,500 50,172 63,253 53,614 Mem.— The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. The present mode of Admission did not take place till the month of April 1810. British Museum,! 16 May 1820. J Thomas Keith, Accountant. 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1821. Balance, 26th March 1820 ----. One Year's Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities - - • . - Parliamentary Grant of 10,009^. 16 s. 10 d.- - ' - - - net - Profit on Exchequer Bills - - - - - - ■," Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis, Descriptions and Engravings of Antiquities, &c. -...-.----- Cash received for the Sale of decayed Trees - - . . - Total - - - £. £. s. 471 3 900 - 10,007 14 76 4 329 1 5 - 11,789 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1821. Ofiicers' Salaries '."'" ---..- Ditto - - for extra Services .-.---.- Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants,, with extra Attendance ■ Rent and Taxes .----------■ Bookbinding ...- ...,-.-■ Stationery Coals ""'■"','""''' Candles and Lamplighting - - . " - - - ■ Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - - - - Furniture, Upholsterer, and Linen Draper --.---■ Clearing Goods at the Custom-house 479. ^ * £. s. d. 2,380 - - 1,391 5 1,626 14 6 616 15 2 547 2 183 12 b 341 15 — 79 14 164 - 1 130 2 6 33 19 1 (continued) 314 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE ppe n IX, No. i . ^^ — General Account of all ¥ aymzs rs^contimied. Receipts, Payments, Repairs not paid by the Board of Works, fitting up Shelves, Cases, &c. and Admissions, Coins and Antiquities, 13 L 10 s., Minerals, Zoology, &c. 796/. 5*. >] d. 1 12 1835. p^j, jj^g purchase of a Collection of Engravings by Julio Bonasoni - Drawings, Engravings and Printing, Gallery of Antiquities - - - - Purchase of Books - -.-....-- Purchase of MSS. The Alexandrian MS. Total - - £. „ , c TReceipts - - - £. 11,789 2 9 Balance of [y^^^^^,^, . . . ,0,699 8 6 Surplus in hand - - - . £.1,089 ^4 3 £. s, d. 414 15 5 809 15 7 397 - - 281 16 6 290 12 2 11 5 - 999 4 - 10,699 8 6 COMPARISON OF THE ACTUAL EXPENDITURE In the Four following Articles, with the Estimate presented the 16 May 1820. 3.- ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED. Estimated Expense -- ...... Expense of Drawings, Engravings and Printing, Gallery of Antiquities Expense less than the Estimate, by Receipts from the Sale of Books : - - £. For the Sale of the Description of Marbles For the Sale of the Catalogue of Greek Coins - For the Sale of the Synopsis - - - - £.83 16 1 ! - 40 - - i - ao5 5 - j , £. 329 1 1 : £. s. d. 1,200 - - 281 16 6 918 3 6 4.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books D" - - - - for the purchase of MSS. Amount of Purchase of Books D° of MSS. . Expense less than the Estimate, by - £. 300 ,- 50 - - £. s. d. 290 12 11 5 2 350 - 301 17 2 £. by - - 48 2 10 5.~ACC0UNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Estimated Expense on this Account, for the year 1821 Expended in the year ending 25th March 1821 Expense less than the Estimate, by £. s. d. - 1,000 - — ~ 999 4 - - £. - 16 - '■• 'N.B.—Ts\& Sums already expended amount to 6,677 Z. lis. 3^. It is expected that about 2,000/. wiU complete the Publication, of which 1,000^. is inserted in the Estimate now presented. 6— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Minerals For improving and preserving the Collection of Zoology - Expended for Minerals and Zoology For Coins and Antiquities £. 500 - - 730 - - s. d. Expense less than the Estimate, by 796 5 7 13 10 - 1,230 - - 809 15 7 £. 420 4 5 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 315 7.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending the 25 March 1822. Funds : Balance in hand ----..--..-. Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities - A Sum will be received by the Sale of the Synopsis, Engravings of the Anti- , quities, &c. probably amounting to the Sum received in the last year - £. s. d. 1,089 14 3 900 - - 329 - - 2,318 14 3 8.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITUllE. Officers' Salaries ----------- Ditto - - for extra Services .---.-.- Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants, with extra Attendance Rent and Taxes ------ ..--. Bookbinding - .-. ._-... Stationery ------------ Coals .-.-.--.-..- Candles and Lamplighting . - - - ... Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - - - -' - Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - For the purchase of Minerals _---. -_- For improving and preserving the Collection of Zoology . . - For the purchase of Coins - - - , - - Printing and Engraving of Anglo Gallic Coins - - . Ditto - - - r - of Mausoleum and Cinerary Urns Ditto of the Athenian Marbles - Drawings of - . - - Ditto - - intended to be made"! for continuing the Work .... -J £.131 425 600 150 Purchase of MSS. , - - Purchase of Books - - ._-..„ For the Alexandrian MS. - - - - . . . For forming the Inventory of Sir Joseph Banks's Library Treasury Stamps on the Parliamentary Grant, about . . - General Total Deduct the Sums before specified under No. 7 Remains to be provided for the year ending 25th March 1822 s. d. 2,380 1,390 1,620 C40 400 185 340 110 164 400 300 200 50 1,306 11 - 50 _ - 200 - - 1,000 - - 60 - _ 233 10,797 14 3 2,318 14 3 8,479 Appendix, No. l. Keceipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 9.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From 26 March 1814, to 25 March 1821. From From From From From From From 26 Marcli 1814 26 March 1815 26 March 1816 26 March 1817 26 March 1818 26 March 1819 27 March 1820 to the to the to Ihe to the to tlie to the to the 25 Marcli 1815. 25 March 1816. 25 March 1817. 25 March 1818. 25 March 1819. 25 March 1820. 25 March 1821. N° N° N» N" N" No N" March - 456 ... 483 1,278 823 1,331 747 April 2,244 3,696 2,931 5,095 5,841 5,612 4,826 May 4,383 4,498 4,527 5,455 7,187 7,289 6,809 , June .5,703 5,572 4,096 8,012 8,607 7,853 8,990 July 5,249 6,180 6,970 8,977 8,967 9>647 9,809 October 4,025 4,588 4,001 5,226 8,676 5,611 5,633 November 2,259 1,048 2,696, 1,745 2,174 4,0.37 4,269 December 1,627 1.-699 1,947 2,889 3,157 2,767 3,121 January 3,591 3,887 4,019 5,274 8,085 3,994 7,463 Fe&ruary 2,396 1,887 4,315 3,226 4,782 ',594 6,311 March - 1,141 2,526 4,515 2,995 4,954 3,879 4,565 33,074 35,581 40,500 50,172 63,253 53,614 62,543 Mem, — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. British Museum, 17 April 182 ;!'} Thomas Keith, Accountant. 479- s s 2 316 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE ndix, No. 1. 3ts, Pajiments, Admissions, '12—1835. 1,— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1822. Balance, 26th March 1821 One Year's Dividend on 30,000^. Reduced Annuities - . . - . Parliamentary Grant -------.... Profit on Exchequer Bills ----.--... Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis and the description of Marbles £. £. s. d. 1,089 14 3 900 - - 8,479 - - 67 13 4 337 16 10 10,874 4 5 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1822. Officers' Salaries --. .--.. Ditto - for extra Services -- ...... Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - . . . Rent and Taxes .-.-.- -- .. Bookbinding ............ Stationery ... ...--.... Coals ............. Candles and Lamplighting .... ..... Incidents, for sundty Articles of domestic use ...... Linen Drapers -..--.. .... Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Cartage, &c. . . . . . Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - . . Purchase of Minerals ...... ..... Improving and preserving the Collection of Zoology . . - . . Purchase of Coins .......... Printing and engraving Drawings, &c. of the Antiquities . . - . Purchase of MSS. .... Purchase of Books ........... For the Alexandrian MS. - Forming the Inventory of the late Sir Joseph Banks's Library - . . . Treasury Stamps, &c. on Parliamentary Grant ... . . £. Balance of Receipxs JRe Iex l/XPENSES - Surplus in hand - £. 10,874 4 5 - 9,758 5 8 £.1,115 18 9 £. *. d. 2,360 - - 1,210 — — 1;747 10 6 636 11 6 453 7 6 144 10 5 308 - .- 113 12 9 166 8 5 13 9 - 101 18 9 372 18 137 8 - 374 19 6 2 10 6 363 11 _ 69 14 - 216 2 - 1,000 11 3 63 - 2 2 6' 9,758 5 8 3— ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED Estimated Expense ... .... Expense of Drawings, Engravings and Printing Gallery of Antiquities Expense less than the Estimate, by Receipts from the Sale of Books : For the Sale of the Description of Marbles . - - For the Sale of the Synopsis .... juities - £. s. d. 1,306 11 - 363 1 1 - by - - £. 943 - - £.184 14 10 153 2 - £.337 16 10 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 317 4— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books Ditto - - - - for the purchase of MSS. £. 200 - 50 - Amount of Purchase of Books 2162 Ditto . - - . of MSS. 69 14 Excess above the Estimate s. d. 250 - - 285 16 - 35 16 - 5— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Estimated Expense on this Account for the year 1822 ... Expended in the year ending tlie 25th March 1822 - - . Excess above the Estimate - - - £. £, s. d. 1,000 - - 1,000 11 3 11 N. B. — The sums already expended in the printing, &c. of this MS. amount to 7,678 1. 2 s. 6d. The printing of the whole Text, and of the Notes to the Pentateuch is completed, for which 287/. 4*. remains to be paid; the remaining 712^. 16s. out of the Sum of 1,000 Z., will be ex- pended in editing and printing the Prolegomena and Notes, the additional expense of which will probably amount to 436 1. 6.— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Estimated Expense of the purchase of Minerals - - - £. 300 - - For improving and preserving the Collection of Zoology - - 200 - - For Coins and Antiquities ...-.-- 50-- £xpended for Minerals - - - - - - - 137 8 — For Zoology -..- _..- 274 19 6 For Coins _.-..--.-. 2 10 6 Expense less than Estimate, by £, s. d. 550 - - 414 18 - 135 3 - Appendix, No Receipts, Payine: and Admissions 1812— 1'835,. 7— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending 26 March 1823. Funds : Balance in hand ------------ Dividend on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities ...---- Sums due from the Booksell ers for the Sale of the Description of Marbles, &c. amounting to ------------ Amount of the Sale of Syn opsis, about ....--. £. £. s. d. 1,115 18 9 900 - - 243 25 . 150 - - 2,409 1 2 8.--ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE. Officers' Salaries Ditto - - for extr^ Services , - Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants Rent and Taxes --...-.- Bookbinding ........ Stationery - 479- s s 3 £. 2,360 1,210 1,740 640 370 150 {continued) 318 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Pajrments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 8. — Estimated Expenditure — continued. Coals -..- ..-._-.-- Candles and Lamplighting -----_.-. Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use .-.-.. Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - . . On account of the purchase of Egyptian Antiquities, sent from Alexandria, and now deposited in the Museum --------- For purchases in Natural History, including the Collection of Volcanic Minerals of the Cavalier Monticelli at Naples -------- For preserving the Collection of Zoology, &c. ------ For the purchase of Coins and Antiquities . - . - - - For the Anglo Gallic Coins, Printing and Engraving Ditto ----- Cinerary Urns - - - - Ditto ------ Athenian Marbles . - . For Drawings intended to be made for continuing the Works - Purchase of MSS. - - Purchase of Books -,--.--. £.131 6 425 5 310" - 250 - The Alexandrian MS. - The Law Expenses of the Solicitors to the British Museum, for opposing the Duke of Bedford's application to the Court of Chancery, for an Injunction to restrain the Trustees from erecting any Buildings for the enlargement of the Museum towards the Garden, amount to 120 Z.; and if the business should proceed further in the Court of King's Bench, 100 I. more will be required for the same, in the present year ------- Treasury Stamps on the Parliamentary Grant, about _ . - - . General Total - - - £. Deduct the Sums before specified under No. 7 - - - - Remains to be provided for the Year ending 25th March 1823 - £. £. s. d. 320 - - 115 - - i66 - - 375 - - 1,000 - - 600 - - 150 - - 50 - - 1,116 50 200 1,000 11 - 220 2 3 2 11,834 2,409 14 2 1 2 9,425 13 - 9;— RETURN OF THE NUiVIBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 26 March 1815 to the 25 March 1822. From 26 March 1815 to the 25 March 1816. Fi'om 26 March 1816 to the 25 March 1817. From 26 March 1817 to the 25 March 1818. From 26 March 1818 to the 25 March i8ig. From 26 March 1819 to the 25 March 1820. From 26 March 1820 10 the 25 March 1821. From 26 March i8ai to the 25 March 1822. N» No NO N» N° N° No March - ■- 483 1,278 823 1,331 747 1,431 April - 3,696 2,931 5,095 5,841 5,612 4,826 6,697 May - 4,498 4,527 5,455 7,187 7,289 6,809 11,981 June 5,572 4,096 8,012 8,607 7,853 8,990 11,230 July 6,180 6,970 8,977 8,967 9,647 9,809 11,818 October 4,588 4,001 5,226 8,676 5,611 5,633 10,451 November 1,048 2,696 1,745 2,174 4,037 4,269 6,032 December 1,699, 1,947 2,889 3,157 2,767 3,121 4,570 January 3,887 4,019 5,274 8,085 3,994 7,463 10,642 February 1,887 4,315 3,226 4,782 1,594 6,311 8,790 March - 2,526 4,515 2,99^ 4,954 3,879 4,565 7,509 . 35.581 40,500 50,172 63,253 53,61/j. 62,543 9i»i5i Mem —The" Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. British Museum 22 April 1822 ■} Thomas Keith, Accountant. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 319 1— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1823. Balance, 26th March 1822- - One year's Dividend on 30 ,000 Z. Reduced Annuities -^ - Parliamentary Grant --.-.---..- Profit on Exchequer Bills - - - - - -'- - -.- Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis and other Works - - - - £. d. 9 £. s. 1,115 18 900 - - 9,425 J 3 - 63 13 4 557 16 1 1 2,063 Appendix, No. i Receipts, Payments and Admissions, 1812—1835. 2.- GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, For the Year ending 25 March 1823. Officers' Salaries ------ ... Ditto - for extra Services ------- Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants Rent and Taxes ---------- Bookbinding --..^--,.- Stationery -.-^- _.... Coals --^. ------ Candles and Lamplighting -------. Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - - - ' - Fitting up Shelves,^ Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - Purchases in Natural History - - - - . . . For preserving the Collection of Zoology - - - . - Purchase of Coins --.- -..- Drawings, Engravings, and Printing, &c. of the Antiquities Purchase of Books and MSS. ..--.._ For the Alexandrian MS. -- Improving the collection of Engravings - - - . . Mr. Westmacott, for putting together and removing Sculptures Law Expenses of the Solicitors to the Museum .... Treasury Stamps on the Parliamentary Grant .... - £. s. d. 2,379 13 - 1,352 13 - 1,732 8 5 591 12 - 385 5 - 145 4 - 287 - - 95 9 6 192 5 4 366 9 - 73 15 - 17 9 - 5 5- 325 3 - 234 17 6 402 14 - 180 - - 81 6 6 354 15 - 226 £. 9,185 6 9 Balance of /Receipts '\_expenses Surplus in hand - £. s. d. 12,063 1 2 9,185 6 9 £. 2,877 14 5 3.— ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED; Estimated Expense - Expense of Drawings, Engravings, &c. of the Antiquities 1 Expense less than Estimate, by Receipts feom the Sale oe Books : For the Sale of the Description of Marbles - - - For the Sale of the Synopsis, Catalogue of Books, &c. £. 243 2 5 314 13 8 £•557 16 1 £. s. d. 1,116 11 - 325 3 - 791 8 - 479- s s 4 320 Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE 4.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books Ditto - - - forMSS. Amount of Books purchased, and the Expenses thereon Expense less than Estimate, by - £. 200 - - 50 - - £. s. d. 250 - _ 234 17 6 - , by - - - £. 15 2 6 5.— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Estimated Expense on this Account for the year 1823 Expended in the year ending 25th March 1823 - - . - Expense less than Estimate, by N. B — The sums already expended in the printing, &c. of this MS. amount to 8,080 Z. 16 s. 6d. The printing of the whole Text, and of the Notes, from the Book of Genesis to end of 2d of Chro- nicles, is completed. The printing of the remaining portion of the Notes and the Prolegomena will probably amount to 1,033 1., of which sum 700 /. will be required for the year 1824. £. s. rf.- - 1,000 - - - 402 14 - - £. 597 6 - 6.— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Estimated Expense for Purchases in Natural History, includ- ing the Collection of Volcanic Minerals of the Cavalier Mon- ticelli, at Naples For preserving the Collection of Zoology For the purchase of Coins and Antiquities Purchases in Natural History For preserving the Collection of Zoology For the purchase of Coins ... Expense less than Estimate, by £. s. d. £. 600 - _ •• 150 - 50 - : 800 - - 73 15 17 9 5 5 - 96 9 -■ >y - - - £. 703 11 - 7.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending 25 March 1824. Funds ; Balance in hand .... . . Dividend on 30,000 /. Reduced Annuities - - Receipts from the Sale of the Museum Publications, about - £. s. d. 2,877 14 5 900 - - 350 - - £. 4,127 14 5 8 ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE. Officers' Salaries -'.-■ --.. Ditto - for extra Services --.... Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - Rent and Taxes ---------. Bookbinding --.----.- Stationery --.., Coals - ... ..... £. 2,380 1,333 1,740 600 340 150 300 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 321 8. — Estimated Expenditure — continued. Candles and Lamplighting --- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use --.-.- Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - - . For purchase of Egyptian Antiquities lodged in the British Museum, i,ooo^. of which was provided for in the Estimate for the last year (1822), but not then paid to Mr. Salt's account Purchases in Natural History, preserving the Collection of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, &c. The purchase of the Monticelli Collection of Minerals was estimated in the last year (1822) at 500Z., but no part of that sum was paid previous to the 25th of March 1823 ; a considerable portion of that collection being put on board of ship at Naples, and shortly expected in England, the whole sum will become due in the current year - - - - - - -,- For Drawings, Engravings, Printing, &c. the Gallery of Antiquities - For purchases to the Collection of Engravings ...... The purchase of Coins and Antiquities ----...- The purchase of MSS. Purchase of Foreign Books, and continuing the Works in progress in the Library of Sir Joseph Banks -----....- The Alexandrian MS. -----...... Law Expenses, about Treasury Stamp on the Parliamentary Grant, about ..... General Total - - • £. Deduct the Sums before specified under No. 7 - - . . Remains to be provided for the year ending 35th March 1824 . £. Add the fraction 0(1 1. £. s. d. £. 100 170 370 2,000 - - 250 ., 500 J, 173 135 50 50 300 700 250 2 2 6 12,893 2 6 4.127 14 5 8,765 8 1 - 11 11 8,766 - - Appendix, Iv Receipts, Payn and Adiiiissic .RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM From the 26 March 1816, to the 25 March 1823. From 26 March 1816 to the 25-March 1817. From 26 March 1817 to the 25 March 1818. , From 26 March 1818 to the 25 March 1819. From 26 Maxell i8i;9 to the 25 March 4 820. From 26 March 1820 to the 25 March 1821. From 26 March 1821 to the 25 March 1822. From 26 March 1 to the 25 Match 1 N" N° 1SI° No N° N° N" Mahch - 483 1,278 823 1,331 747 1,431 1,582 Apbil - 2,93 i 5,095 5,841 5,612 4,826 6,697 8,577 May - 4,527 5,455 -7,187 7.289 6,809 11,981 1 0,264 June 4,096 8,012 8,607 7,853 8,990 11,230 15,746 July 6,970 8,977 8,967 9,647 9,809 11,818 2.2,164 October 4,001 5,226 8,676 5,611 5,633 10,451 9,504 November 2,696 1,745 2,174 4,037 4,269 6.032 8,664 December 1,947 2,889 3,157 2.767 3,121 4.570 4,954 January 4,019 5,274 8,085 3,994 7,463 1 0,642 5,849 February 4,315 3,226 4,782 1,594 6,311 8,790 4,888 March - 4,515 2.995 4,954 3,879 4,565 7,509 6,609 40,500 50,172 63,253 53,614 62,543 91,151 98,751 JWew.— The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, betw( the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately upon their Application. IJritish Museum,! 21 April 1833. J Thvmas Keith, Accoiaitant. 479- T T i22 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 1. Beceipts, Payments, nnd Admissions, 1812—1835, 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From 25 March 1823, to Christmas 1823. Balance in hand, 26th March 1823 - . _ . Parliamentary Grant --.--._ One year's Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities Profit on Exchequer Bills - - - - - , - Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis and other Works £. £. s. 2,877 14 8,766 - 900 - 43 15 148 7 12,735 i6 6 2.-GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From 25 March 1823, to Christmas 1823. Officers' Salaries --.--.. Ditto - for extra Services - - - . - Wages, pnd Board Wages of Attendants and Servants Rent and Taxes ------- Bookbindjng ..--.-- Stationery -------- Coals Gas-light Company .;-----.--.- Iiicidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use ._-.-. Purchase of Mr. Salt's Collection of Egyptian Antiquities - - - - Purchase and Expenses attendant on Monticelli's Collection of Minerals - Purchase of Engravings -----.-.-. Purchases in Natural History - . _ - . . . Drawings, Engravings, Printing, &c. for the Publication of the Gallery of Antiquities -.--.-....-- Purchase of Books --.. -.,...- Printing, &c. the Alexandrian MS. .--..._- Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. ..... Treasury Stamp on Parliamentary Grant ---.--- fRECEIPTS (.Expenses Surplus in hand Balance of s ^ (.Expenses £.12,735 16 6 - 8,791 11 2 J £• 3,944 5 3^ £. s. d. 1,777 10 - 675 - - 1,300 7 11 546 19 11 183 9 - 77 14 6 ' 278 - - 57 15 - 106 6 3 i 2,000 - - 518 1 - 135 - - 233 - 9 226 9 6 239 17 6 405 18 6 27 18 10 226 8,791 11 2^ 3. — ACCOUNT showing how the Estimated Expense was disposed of as to BOOKS PUBLISHED. Estimated Expense for the year .------.. Expense of Drawings, Engravings, Printing, &c. for the Publication of the Gallery of Antiquities, for three quarters of a year; viz. to Christmas 1833 - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 7. - - £. Receipts from the Sale of Books ; Produce of the Sale of the 21st Edition of the Synopsis - , Ditto - of the Sale of the Description, of Antiquities £. 120 13 - 27 14 1 £.148 7 1 £. s. d. 1,173 - - 226 ' g 6 946 10 6 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 4. — ACCOUNT showing how the Estimated Expense was disposed of as to THE BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books for the year Ditto - - - forMSS. - - - - . Expended to Chiis'mas 1823, being three quarters of a year - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 7. 323 )sed of as to . £. 300 - - 50 - - £. *. d. 350 - - .. 239 17 6 - - - £. 110 2 6 Appendix, No, I . Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, l8i2 — 1835. 5. — ACCOUNT showing how the Estimated Expense was disposed of as to THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Estimated Expense for the year -.---. Expended to Christmas 1823, being three quarters of a year - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 7 - £. £. s. d. 700 - - 405 18 6 294 1 6 N.B. — The sums already expended in the Printing, &c. of this MS. amount to 8,486/. 15 f. The Printing of the whole of the Text, and of the greater part of the Notes, is completed. The remaining portion of the Notes and of the Prolegomena, will probably amount to 627 L, of which sum 500 7. will be required for the present year. 6. — ACCOUNT showing how the Estimated Expense was disposed of as to THE PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY, &c. Estimated Expense for Purchases in Natural History, pre- serving the Collection of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, &c. For the purchase of Monticelli's Collection of Minerals - For the purchase of Coins and Antiquities - - . . Purchase and Expense attendant on Monticell's Collection of Minerals ---------- Purchases and Expenses relating to Natural History, to Christmas 1823, being three quarters of a year - - - £. 250 - - 500 - - 50 - - 518 233 Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 7 - 1 - £. £. s. d. 800 - - 751 1 9 48 18 3 7.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1824. Funds : Balance in hand -.-...--..-. Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities - - - - - - - Receipts from the sale of the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about £. £. s. 3,944 5 3 J 900 - - 200 - - 5,044 5 zh 8.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1823 to Christmas 1824. Officers' Salaries ---.-_.- Ditto - for extra Services .-.--- Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - Rent and Taxes --.....'. Bookbinding, Portfolios, &c Stationery -----.... Coals -.-..-.-. 479, nii £. c d. M55 - - 1,375 - - 1,740 - - 600 - - 380 - - 220 - - 300 - - [cotiiinued)' 324 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 8 Estimated Expenditure — continued. Candles and Gas-light Company -7" Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - Purchases in Natural History, preserving the Collection of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, &c. ------------ Drawings from the Athenian Marbles £,168 - -1 Engravings from , - - ditto ------ 250 - - f Purchase of Coins and Antiquities - - . . - . . For the purchase of Foreign Books, and continuing the Works in progress in the Library of Sir Joseph Banks - -------- For the purchase of MSS. ---------- The Alexandrian MS. _-- Treasury Stamp pn the Parliamentary Grant, about - - - General Total ----£. Deduct the Sums before specified under No. 7 - - . £. Add the fraction ofiZ. -- Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1824 - - £. £. 120 180 s. d. 15 - 400 - - 500 - - 418 - - 50 - - 500 - - 150 -' - 500 - - 236 9>890 5,044 17 6 5 3h 4,846 12 2 J 7 9i 4,847 - - 9.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 26 March 1817, to Christmas 1823. From 26 March 1817 to the 25 March 1818. From 26 March 1818 to the 25 March i8ig. From 26 March 1819 to the 25 March 1820. From 26 March 1820 to the 25 March 1821. From 26 March 1821 to the 25 March 1822. f From 26 March 1822 to the 25 March 1823. From 36 March 1823 to Christmas 1823. NO N" N" N° N" JJo No March - 1,278 823 1,331 747 1,431 . 1,582 600 April - 5,095 5,841 5,612 4,826 6,697 8,577 11,227 May - 5,455 7,187 7,289 , 6,809 11,981 10,264 15,217 June 8,012 8,607 7,853 8,990 11,230 15,746 19,880 July 8,977 8,967 9,647 9,809 11,818 22,164 20,154 October 5,226 8,676 5,611 5,633 10,451 9=504 10,154 November 1,745 2,174 4,037 4,269 6,032 8,664 7,110 December 2,889 ■ 3,157 2,767 ■3,121 4,570 4,954 5,483 January 5,'274 8,085 3,994 7,463 10,642 5,849 — February 3,226 4,782 1,594 6,311 8,790 4,888 — March - 2,995 4,954 3,879 4,565 7,509 6,609 — 50,172 63,253 53,614 62,543 91,151 98,801 89,825 Mem.— The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in evfery Week; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately on their Application. British Museum,"! February 1824. J Thomas Keith, Accountant. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 325 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christmas 1823 to Christmas 1821. Balance in hand, 26th Decembe B23 Parliamentary Grant - - ... One year's Dividend on 30,000^. RtJ^'Jed Annuities Profit on Exchequer Bills - . . - - Cash received for the Sale of the Synoj ^j £. ., d. - 3.944 5 3| - 4,84-7 - - - 900 - - 190 5 10 - 112 6 6 £. 9,993 17 Ih Appendix, No. Receipts, Payments and Admissions, 1813—1835. 3 6 6 6 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1823 to Christmas 1824. Officers' Salaries -.---._.... Ditto - - for extra Services ..-..._ Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - . . - . Rents and Taxes - ......... Bookbibding -......,-..-. Stationery ---.-..--... Coals ..-----...... Candles and Gas-light Company Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use ...... Purchases in Natural History -.-..-.. For preserving the Collection of Zoology ....... Purchase of Coins and Medals - . - * - Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities Purchase of Engravings .... Purchase of Books and MSS. -......-. Printing, he. of the Alexandrian MS. . . . - Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. Treasury Stamp on Parliamentary Grant ....-.,. £. JReceipts - - . £.9,993 17 7 4 Balance ot < „ „ ^ , (.liXPENSES .... 9,838 &10| Surplus in hand - - . £.155 10 9 £. *. d. 2,363 4 4 1,430 15 - 2,019 - 'O 564 10 7 460 14 150 4 302 5 93 17 496 10 190 16 9 1 228 10 10 34 9 - 21 - - 362 5 - 207 11 - 504 2 - 391 2 6 15 4 9 226 9,838 6 10^ 3.— ACCOUNT OF BOOKS PUBLISHED. Estimated Expense for the year ...--- Expense of Drawings, Engravings, &c. of the Antiquities Expense less than Estimate, by Receipts from the Sale op Books: Produce of the Sale of the 2 isfr Edition of the Synopsis - - £. *. d. 4x8 - _ 362 5 - - £. 55 15 - £.112 6 6 4.— ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books for the year Ditto - - for MSS. - £.500 - - 150 - - Amount of Books purchased for the year ending, Christmas 1824 47812 - Ditto - of MSS. - -. - - ditto - . • 25 10 - 479- Expense less thap Estimate, by TT 3 £. s. d. 650 - - 504 2 - 14^ 18 _ APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE )endix, No. 5— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. eipts, Payments, Estimated Expense on this account for the year id Admissions, .812—1835. Expended in the year ended Christmas 1824 m £. s. d. 500 - - 391 2 6 £. 108 17 6 Expense less than Estimate, by N. B. — The sums already expended in the printing, &c. of this MS., amount to 8,877^. 17*. 6d. The printing of the whole of the Text, and of the greatest part of the Notes, is completed. The remaining portion of the Notes, and of the Prolegomena, will amount to about 300 L, which sum will be required for a future year. 6.— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Estimated Expense for purchases in Natural History, preserving the Collection of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, &c. For the purchase of Coins and Antiquities . . - . Purchases in Natural History .._._. For preserving the Collection of Zoology - - - . Purchase of Coins and Medals - . . . - Expense less than Estimate, by s. d. :. 500 - - 50 - - 550 - - 283 19 10 228 10 10 34 9 - 21 - - - - £. 266 - 2 Funds : 7.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1825. Balance in hand ------ --. Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities - . - . Receipts from the sale of the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about £. s. d. - 155 10 9 - 900 - - )Ut 200 — — £. 1,255 10 9 8.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1824 to Christmas 1825. Officers' Salaries -..-.-_... Ditto - for extra Services .--_.,.- Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - - - - - Rent and Taxes ---- - .-.- Bookbinding, Portfolios, &c. . .. _ . Stationery .--- _-.--... Coals - - ......---- Candles, and Gas-light Company . - . - . - Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - . . - Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - - . Purchases in Natural History, Shells, Zoology, &c., and preserving the same Drawings from the Athenian Marbles - - - - - . - Engravings from - - Ditto --- --... Purchase of Prints, &c. - -.-.-_-. For the purchase of Foreign Books, and continuing the Works in progress in the Library of Sir Joseph Banks, and MSS. --..-.. Law Expenses ---- -- __.. Treasury Stamp on the Parliamentary Grant, about ..... Estimate for the 5th Quarter . - - - General Total - - - £. Deduct, the Sums before specified under No. 7 . . . . Add the fraction ofi^. - Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1 825 - - - £. £. *. d, 3,010 - - 1,850 - - 2,325 - - 564 10 7 400 - - 350 - - 300 - - .94 - - 190 16 9 500 _ - 700 - ~ 350 - - 1,300 - - 100 - ~ 1,000 - - 300 - - 226 13,336 9 10 3,334 2 5j 16,670 12 31 1,255 10 9 15,415 1 6i - 18 5i 15,416 - SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 327rrrrrr 9— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 26 March 1818, to Christmas 1824. From From From From From From From a6 March i8i8 a6 March 1819 26 March 1820 26 March 1821 26 March 1822 26 March 1823 Christmas 1823 to the to the to the to the to the to to 25 March 1819. 25 March 1820. 25 March 1821. 25 Match 1822. 25 March 1823. Christmas 1823. Christmas 1824. N" N° No NO No No No March - 823 1,331 747 1,431 1,582 600 — Apuil - 5,841 5,612 4,826 6,697 8,577 11,227 9,201 May 7,187 7,289 6,809 11,981 10,264 15,217 16,330 June 8,607 7»853 8,990 11,230 15,746 19,880 15,817 July 8,y67 9,647 9,809 11,818 22,164 20,154 ' 20,995 October 8,676 5,611 5,633 10,451 9,504 10,154 10,250 November 2,174 4,037 4,269 6,032 8,664 7,110 8,190 December 3,157 3,767 3,121 4,570 4,954 5,483 5,601 January 8,085 3,994 7,463 10,64a 5,849 9,495 February 4,782 1,694 6,311 8,790 4,888 . 7,402 March - 4,954 3,879 4,565 7,509 6,609 - - 9,559 63,253 53,614 62,543 91,151 98,801 89,825 112,840 Mtm The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately on their Application. British Museum, "I 4 February 1825./ Francis Scotney, Accountant. i.-GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christmas 1824 to Christmas 1825. Balance in hand, 26th Defcember 1824 - - - - Advanced by Mr. Hoblyn of the Treasury, Feb. loth, 1825 Parliamentary Grant . - - . . _ One year's Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis, Catalogues, &c. Deduct Loss by Sale of Exchequer Bills £. s. d. - 155 10 9 - 2,000 - _ - 15,416 - - - 900 - 160 14 6 - 18,632 5 180 1 3 3 £. 18,45a 4 - Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1824 to Christmas 1825. Repayment to Mr. Hoblyn --------- Officers' Salaries - - - - -•- Ditto - ■ for extra Services -.-----« Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - . - - Rent and Taxes .---------- Bookbinding - --------- Stationery ------------ Coals --- .'_ ------ Candles and Gas Light Company - - - - -,- Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - . - - - Purchases in Natural History ------- For preserving the Collection of Zoology .--.-- Purchase of Coins and Medals -------- Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities Purchase of Engravings ,----.---- Purchase of Books and MSS. -------- Law Expenses ----------- Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. - . - . Treasury Fees on Parliamentary Grant, &c. - - - - - , - Balance of fRECEIPTS •i [^Expenses Surplus in hand £.18,452 4 - - 14,629 7 - £.3,822 17 - 2,000 3,163 1,758 2,661 589 657 297 355 92 561 184 344 64 117 776 66 662 s. d. 13 6 3 3 14 10 3 9 16 6 3 6 2 - 10 - 4 10 2 6 6 6 12 - 223 5 18 2 14 12 8 6 1 6 7 6 14,629 7 - 479- T T 4 Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 328 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE 3— ACCOUNT OF DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS. Estimated Expense for the year for Drawings for Engravings - £.350 - - - 1,300 - - Actual Expense of Drawings, Engravings, &c. of the Antiquities . . - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds No. 6 - - £. Receipts from the Sale of Books : Estimated Produce - - • - . - . -£.200-- Actual Produce of the Sale of the Synopsis and Museum Pub- lications - ---... 1 60 14 6 £. s. d. 1,650 - - 776 - '8 873 19 4 4.- -ACCOUNT OF THE BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books for the year, and for MSS. Amount of Books purchased for the year ending Christmas 1825 £.646 3 1 Ditto of MSS -• . . 16 15 - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 6 £. *. d. 1,000 - - 662 18 I 337 1 11 5.-ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY, Estimated Expense for Purchases in Natural History, preserving the Collection of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, &c. ---.-.. ^ Purchases in ]S atural History - . . - - For preserving the Collection of Zoology Purchase of Coins and Medals ... £. 344 2 6 64 6 6 117 12 - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 6 - 6=- ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1826. FcNDS : Balance in hand, 26th December 1825 .------. Dividend on 30,000^. Reduced Annuities ...---. Receipts from the Sale of the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about f. s. d. 700 - - 526 1 - 173 ^e - 3,822 17 - 900 - - soo - — 4,922 17 _ 7._ESTI MATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1825 to Christmas 1826. Officers' Salaries ----------- ♦Ditto - for extra Services --------- Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - - - Rent and Taxes ----- ... Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios Stationery -— -.-- ..-. Coals .--- -- Candles, and Gas-light Company Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, iSiC. not paid by the Board of Works Purchases in Natural History, Shells, Zoology, &c. and preserving the same Purchase of Coins and Medals - ... . . Purchase of Antiquities .... £ s. d. 3,163 - - 1,867 10 - 2,871 - - 589 - - 680 - - 300 - - 355 - - 94 - - 200 - - 560 - 550 - - 150 - - 250 - - SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 7. — Estimated Expenditure — continued. Drawings from the Athenian Marbles Engravings from - - ditto ----..... Purchase of Prints •' *. Purchase of Foreign Books, and continuing the Works in progress in the Library of Sir Joseph Banks, and MSS. - - Mr. Standish's Mithraic Group, and Expenses relating thereto ... Law Expenses - - - -. .". Treasury Stamp on the Parliamentary Grant - Estimate for the fifth Qiiarter - General Total - Deduct, the Sums before specified under No. 6 - Add, the fraction of 1 /. - Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1826 - £. 329 £. £. 450 1,300 200 1,000 350 200 2 6 15,131 12 6 3,782 18 1 ^ 18,914 10 7 J 4,922 17 - 13.991 13 7i - 6 4j 13.992 Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, FaymentSf and Admissions, 1812—1835. 8. -RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 26 March 1819 to Christmas 1825. 1 From 26 March 1819 to the 25 March 1820. From 26 March 1820 to the 25 March 1821, • From 26 March 1821 to the 25 March 1822. From 26 March 1822 to the 25 March 1823. From 26 March 1823 to Christmas 1823, From Christmas 1823 to Christmas 1824. From Christmas 1834 to Christmas 1825. March - 1.331 No 1,431 No 1,58-2 600 N» No April - 5,612 4,826 6,697 8.577 11,227 9,201 11,520 May 7.289 6,809 11,981 10,264 15.217 16,330 15,908 June 7,853 8,990 11,230 15,746 19,880 15,817 21,116 July 9,647 9,809 11,818 22,164 20,154 • 20,995 21,892 October 6,611 5,633 10,451 9,504 10,154 10,250 13,148 November 4,037 4,269 6,032 8,664 7,110 8,190 8,908 December 2,767 3,121 4,570 4,954- 5,483 5,601 4,244 January 3,994 7,463 10,642 5,849 - 9.495 12,825 February 1,594 6,311 8,790 4,888 — «i — 7.402 6,477 March - 3,879 4,565 7,509 6,609 - 9.559 11,605 53.614 ■ 62,543 91.151 98,801 89,825 112,840 127,643 Mem. — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays', Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately on their Application. , British Museum, \^ 23 February 1826. ( Francis Scotney, Accountant. 479- V u 330 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appeisdix, No. 1 . Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 18 12 — 1835. 1— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, Fi;pm Christmas 1825 to Christmas 1826. Balance in hand, 26th December 1825 --....-- Parliamentary Grant -.------..- One year's Dividends on 30,000 /. Reduced Annuities . . . . - Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis and other Museum Publications Profit and interest on Exchequer Bills - -- £, £. «. d. 3,822 17 - 13:992 - - 900 - — 307 15 - 58 13 9 19.081 5 9 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1825 to Christmas 1826. Officers' Salaries -.---- Ditto - - for extra Services ... - - . - Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants . - - - Rent and Taxes --- Bookbinding ..-.-.----. Stationery ---- ..- ... Coals ------------- Candles and Gas-light Company Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - - . - Purchases in Natural History -..--..- For preserving the Collection of Zoology ------ Dr. Buckland for Mexican Sculpture - . - - - Mr. C. Standish's Mithraic Group, and Expenses relating thereto - Mr. Lackington for Rondinini Fawn -' - Purchase of Coins and Medals -------- Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities Purchase of Engravings -- ..---. Purchase of Books and MSS. -- Expenditure on account of Classed Catalogue, for a portion of the year Law Expenses - - - - - - - - - -.- Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freightj &c. Treasury Fee on Parliamentary Grant - £. s, d. 3,103 15 2 1,772 11 11 2,883 1 6 455 5 10 847 9 6 197 19 - 352 10 - 95 13 6 536 1 - 176 14 1 355 19 - 67 9 1 100 - i- 331 4 6 300 - - 151 17 - 1,461 3 - 80 12 6 524 7 3 515 18 - lOO - - 29 2 4 226 £. 14,440 16 8 Balance of < , fRECEIPTS Expenses Surplus in hand £. 19,081 5 9 14,440 16 8 - £. 4,640 9 \ -ACCOUNT OF DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS. Estimated Expense for the year for Drawings Ditto - for Engravings £. 450 - - 1,300 - - Actual Expense of the Drawings, Engravings, &c. of the Antiquities Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 6 - - - Receipts from the Sale of Books : Estimated Produce .--- -.-£. 200 - Actual Produce of the Sale of the Synopsis and Museum Pub- lications - - 307 15 s. d. 1,750 - - 1,461 3. - 288 17 - 4._ACC0UNT OF THE BOOK FUND Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books for the year, and for MSS. - Amount of Books purchased for the year 1826 Ditto - - ofMSS. - . - - - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 6 £. s. d. MSS. - 1,000 - - £.490 10 9 33 16 6 524 7 3 ).--£. 475 12 9 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 331 5,— ACCOUNT OF PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Estimated Expense for purchases in Natural History, preserving the Collection of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, &c. ..--•..-- Purchases in Natural History For preserving the Collection of Zoology Purchase of Coins and Medals £-355 19 - 67 9 1 151 17 - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 6 £. £. s. d. 700 - - 575 5 1 124 14 11 Appendix, N( Bpcei[^ts, Paj,n and Adaiiasioi 1812—1835 6. -ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1827. Funds ; Balauce in hand at Christmas 1 826, including the Balance of the fifth Quarter, estimated in the last Account laid before the House ... Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities . . - - Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about £. s. d. rter. 4,640 9 1 - 900 - ^ - 200 - - £.' 5,7+0 9 1 7.-ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1827: OflScers' Salaries -..-..-..-.- Ditto - - for extra Services -•---.--. Wages, and Board Wages of Attendants and Servants - . - - - Rent and Taxes - - - - *.'■ Bookbinding, binding of MS S. and Portfolios ...... Stationery .-.-.-.--.--. Coals -.---.-,---..-- Candles, and Gas-light Company -- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use --.... Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - - . Purchases in Natural History, Shells, Zoology, and preserving the same - Purchase of Coins and Medals - - -- Purchase of Antiquities --...---.- Drawings from the Athenian Marble^ ........ Engravings from - - ditto ----...-. Printing description of Elgin Marbles ---..-.. Purchase of Prints ........... Purchase of Foreign Books, and continuing the Works in progress in the Libraiy of Sir Joseph Banks, and MSS. - Continuation of Classed CatsJogue begun in June 1826 - - - - Law Expenses Treasury Stamp on the ParUamentary Grant -.----- Estimate for the fifth Quarter General Total Deduct, the Sums before specified under No. 6 - £. Add the fraction of 1 1. Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1827 - £. £. «. d. 3,163 - - 1,867 10 - 2,883 - - 589 - - 800 - - 300 - - 355 - - 94 - - 200 - - 560 - - 300 - - 100 - - 100 - - 500 - - . 900 - - 200 - - 80 - - 600 - - 1,000 - - 300 - - 226 14,893 12 6 3,723 8 1 J 18,617 - 7i 5.740 9 1 12,876 11 6i - 8 sk 12,877 - - 479- u u 2 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM TlIE 8.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 26 March 1820, to Christmas 1826. From From From From From From From 26 March 1820 26 March 1821 26 March 1822 26 March 1823 Christmas 1823 Christmas 1824 Christmas 1.825 to the to the to the to to to to 25 March 1821. 25 March 1822. 25 March 1823. Christmas 1823. Christmas 1824. Christmas 1825. Christmas 1826. No NO N" NO NO NO No March - 747 1,431 1,582 600 — — — April - 4,826 6,697 -, 8,577 11,227 9,201 11,520 15,495 Mat . 6,809 11,981 10,264 15,217 16,330 15,908 12,227 June .8,990 11,230 15,746 19,88a 15,817 21,116 18,662 July 9,809 11,818 22,164 20,154 20,995 21,892 20,204 October 5,633 10,451 9,504 10,154 ' 10,250 13,148 12,419 November 4,269 6,032 8,664 7,110 8,190 8,908 12,799 December 3,121 4,570 4,954 5,483 5,601 4,244 5,235 January 7,463 10,642 5,849 . 9,495 12,825 9,410 February 6,311 8,790 4,888 - 7,402 6,477 7,702 March - 4,565 7,509 6,609 - 9,559 11,605 9,149 • 62,543 91,151 98,801 89,825 112,840 127,643 123,302 Mem. — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately on their Application. British Museum, T 24 February 1827. J Francis Scotriey, Accountant. Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1B12— 1835. 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1827. Balance in hand, 26tli December 1826 - - - - . - Parliamentary Grant - - . - . . One year's Dividends on 30,000 I. Reduced Annuities Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis - - - - £. s. d. 4,640 9 1 12,877 - - goo - - 98 10 - 18,515 19 1 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1827. Officers' Salaries - - - - - - - Ditto - - for extra Services .....-_ Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and Servants Rent and Taxes ----------- Bookbinding -- ------- Stationery .---,-------- Coals - .-----■-- -- Candles, and Gas-light Company Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - . . - . Purchases in Natural History - - ----- For preserving the Collection of Zoology ------ Purchasfe of Coins and Medals -...---. Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities Paper and Printing, Anglo-Gallic Coins and Cinerary Urns - . . Purchase of Books and MSS. Expenditure on account of Classed Catalogue - . - . Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. - - - - - Treasury Fees on Parliamentary Grant - . - - - - £. s. d. _ 3,060 15 _ - 1,603 16 4 3,340 17 7 - 519 14 4 - 839 9 - - 197 13 6 - 463 - - - 94 18 6 - ■587 - 4 a 220 1 -k - 194 7 B - 180 10 2 - 440 7 — - . 1,048 4 - - 428 12 6 - 480 10 — - 875 19 8 - 24 7 7 ~ 4 5 — £. 14,604 9 2i r Receipts Balance of [expenses £. 18,515 19 1 ■ 14,604 9 2.1 Surplus in hand - - - £.3,911 9 10 ^ SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 333 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (A.)-DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS. Estimated Expense for the year - - for Drawings for Engravings - £. 500 - - lu - 900 - - Actual Expense of the Drawings, Engravings, &c. of Antiquities Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 - - - £. Receipts from the Sale of Books: Estimate^ Produce . - . . Actual Produce of the Sale of the Synopsis £. 200 - - 98 10 - £. s. d. 1,400 - - 1,048 4 - 351 16 - Appendix, Receipts, Fa and Admu 1813— if Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to the (B.)— BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books for the year, and MSS. Amount of Books purchased for the year 1827 - - £.445 16 - Ditto - - of MSS. Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 34 14 - £. s. d. 600 - - 480 10 - 119 10 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (C.)— PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY, MEDALS, &c. Estimated Expense for purchases in Natural History, preserv-"| r ing the Collections of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, ^c. - -/ For the purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities - Purchases in Natural History .... For preserving the Collection of Zoology Purchase of Coins and Medals . - - . £. s. d. £. 300 - - 200 - - 500 - - £■194 7 180 10 8 2 440 7 - 815 4 10 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to the (D.)— CLASSED CATALOGUE. Estimated Expense for continuing the Classed Catalogue Actual Expense for the year 1827 . - . . Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 By Surplus (A.) By ditto (B.) By ditto (D.) Overpaid (C.)' - - £. - £.351 16 - 119 10 - 124 - 4 595 6 4 315 4 10 Difference - £.280 1 6 £. s. d. 1 ,000 - - 875 19 8 124 - 4 Funds ; 3.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1828. 'Balance in hand at Christmas 1827, including the Balance of the fifth Quarter,"! estimated in the last Account laid before the House - - - - -J Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities -..-.- Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about £. «. d. 3,911 9 10 i 900 - - 200 - - 5,011 9 \o\ 479- u u 3 334 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE endix, No. i. ipts. Payments, .1 Admissions, 1812-^1835.' 4.— E STI MATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1827 to Christmas 1828. OflBcers' Salaries of the old Establishment ---..- Ditto - - for extra Services -.-.--.. Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and Servants ^, Salaries of Librarians for the King's Library .--..- Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections - . - Additional Servants and Attendants on Stoves in New Wing - - - Rent and Taxes - ........ Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios Stationery ------------ Coals --- --------- Coke and Faggots ------ -.. Candles, and Gas-light Company -------- Incidents, for sundry articles of domestic use ----- Fitting up Shelves, Repairs, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Purchases in Natural History, Shells, Zoology, and preserving the same - Purchase of Coins and Medals - - - - . . Purchase of Antiquities .-.---.- Drawings from the Athenian Marbles - - - - - Engraving from - - ditto - - - - . . _ Printing Description of Elgin Marbles - - - - - - Ditto - of Mr. Knight's Coins Purchase of Prints .-..-----. Purchase of Foreign Books, and continuing the Works in progress in the Lib of Sir Joseph Banks, and MSS. - - - - - Continuation of Classed Catalogue ------- Law Expenses --------- Treasury Stamp on the Parliamentary Grant - - - - Estimate for the fifth Quarter - - - . . General Tqtal - - - - Deduct, the Sums before specified under No. 3 - Add the fraction ofi^. Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1828 £. s. d. - 3,163 1,800 — : - 3,147 890 _ "~ - 500 - — _ 192 589 : _ - 700 - - 250 - - 300 - — - 200 - — - 95 - - . 200 — — - - 600 - - - 300 - - - 200 - - 100 - - - 400 - - 900 - - — 220 — - . 200 _ _ - 80 - - '> 600 _ _ - 1,000 - - - 700 2 2 6 17,328 2 6 - 4,332 — 7i £. 21,660 3 If - 5,011 9 104 - 16,648 13 6 3 9 £. 16,649 - ' - ' -RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 26 March 1821, to Christmas 1827. From 26 March 1821 to the 25 March 1822. From 26 March 1822 to the .25 March 1823. From 26 March 1823 to Christmas 1823. From Christmas 1823 to Christmas 1824. From Christmas 1824 to Christmas 1825. From Christmas 1825 to Christmas i833. From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1827. N» N" N" N" NO NO No ICH - - 1,431 1,582 600 — — — — :IL - - - 6,697 8,577 11,227 9,201 11,520 15,495 6,079 f - . . 11,981 10,264 15,217 16,330 15,908 12,227 9,613 E - ■ - 11,230 15,746 19,880 15,817 21, n6 18,662 9,039* r - - - 11,818 22,164 20,154 20,995 21,892 20,204 13,280* OBER - . 10,451 9,504 10,154 10,250 13,148 12,419 9,950 ' EMBER 6,032 8,664 8,190 8,190 8,908 12,799 4,448 * EMBER 4,570 4,954 5,601, 5,601 4»244 5,235 2,497 * UARY - - 10,642 5,849 — 9,495 12,825 9,410 6,491 BUARY - - 8,790 4,888 — 7,402 6,477 7,702 8,177 ■ RCH - - 7,509 6,609 — 9,595 11,605 9.149 9,557 , 95,151 98,801 89,825 112,840 127,643 123,302 79,131 ilim.— The account of these Months appears to be defective, owing to the neglect of the Attendant then ^M°rn— The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week ; when, between le Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately on their Application. British Museum,! 8 March 1828. J Francis Scotney, Accountant. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 335 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, . From Christmas 1827 to Christmas 1828. Balance in hand, 26th December 1827 . . - - , Parliamentary Grant -------- One year's Dividends on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities - Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis, and Museum Publications £. £. s. d. 3>9ii 9 10 1 16,649 - - 900 - - 217 6 7 21,677 16 5 J Appendix, Receipts, Pa and Adniis 1^12— if £. s. d. 3,199 18 2 1,802 19 3 3,647 10 - 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1827 to Christmas 1828. Officers' Salaries of the old Establishment . . . . - Ditto - for extra Services .-----.. Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and Servants - Salaries of Librarians of the King's Library (one quarter only) to Christmas Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections . - - Rent and Taxes .---_._.. Bookbinding ._-----._-. Stationery ----.- -'.... Coals and Coke --.►---- -- Candles, and Gras-light Company - . - . . ~ Incidents, for sundry Articlies of domestic use . - . - - Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - Purchases in Natural History _ - - - . . . For preserving the Collection of Zoology, &c. - - . . . Printing, &c. of the Alexandrian MSS. now completed - - - - Purchase of Coins and Medals ._..-... Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities Purchase of Books and MSS. -------- Expenditure on account of Classed Catalogue - . - . - Expense of removing the King's Library ------ Law Expenses .-- .-.---.- Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. . - . - Treasury Fee on Parliamentary Grant ------- „ , n f Receipts - - - £.21,677 16 5* Balance of Ie^p^^ses 16,265 9 sf Surplus in hand - - £. 5,412 6 9 ; 110 - - 513 6 3 722 7 10 619 10 - 243 7 6 600 10 - 120 3 6 197 3 5i 774 19 2 274 3 4 i6g 12 6 408 8 6 147 i6 - 612 1 - 420 9 1 1,029 6 8 24 19 9 607 9 - 17 6 3 226 £. 16,265 9 8 J Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (A.)— DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS. Estimated Expense for the Year - for Drawings for Engravings £. 400 - - - 900 - - Actual Expense of the Drawings, Engravings, &c., of the Antiquities Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 - - £. Receipts from the Sale of Books ; Estimated Produce £. 200 - - Actual Produce of the Sale of the Synopsis, and Museum Publications - ---.-_- 217 6 7 Ccmiparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual so far ai relates to (B.)— BOOK FUND: Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books for the j^ear/and for MSS. Amount of Books purchased for the year 1828 diture of the Year, 1,300 - - 612 1 -, 687 19/ / 479- Surplus not expended, and includggfin th^3 Funds, No. 3 - £. *. d. 600 - - 420 9 1 £. 179 10 11 (coHtittued) 336 )endix, No. i. eipts, Payment!, ad Admissions, 1812—1835. APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (C.)~PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY, COINS AND ANTIQUITIES. Estimated Expense for Purchases in Natural History, pre- \ /• „ £. s. a. serving the Collections of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, &c. J ' ''' Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities, &c. 300 - - 300 - - Purchases in Natural History For preserving the Collection of Zoology Purchase of Coins and Medals Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 £ 274 3 4 169 12 a 147 i(J - £. 600 - - 591 II 10 882 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (D.)— CLASSED CATALOGUE. Estimated Expense for continuing the Classed Catalogue Actual Expense for the year 182 8 . - , . By Surplus (A.) By d- (B.) By d° (C.) Overpaid (D.) - £.687 19 - 179 10 11 882 Difference 875 18 1 - 29 6 8 £.846 11 5 £. s. d. 1,000 _ — 1,029 6 8 (E.)— ACCOUNT OF THE ALEXANDRIAN MS. FUND. Final Payment in Printing, &c. N. B. — The sum total expended in the Printing, &c. of this MS. which is now completed, amounts to - - £.9,286. 6. 0. The whole Expense was estimated, in 1814, at £. 408 8 d. 6 7>339 17 6 3.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1829. Funds : Balance in hand at Christmas 1828, including the Balance of the fifth Quarter,-, estimated in the last Account laid before the House - - - . Dividend on 30,000 l. Reduced Annuities ..--... Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about 5,412 6 900 - 200 - 6,512 6 9 4 ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1828 to Christmas 1829. Officers' Salaries of ti»e old Establishment ...... Ditto - for extra. Services ,----...- Wages, Board Wages, anSsextra Pay of Attendants and Servants - Salaries of Librarians and AtlSLendants for the King's Library - , - Officers' Salaries, of the Banksum Library and Collections - - - Attendants on Stoves, &c. in bothNthe old and new Wings Rent and Taxes - Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and P>x^tfolios Stationery - - - - Coals - - - - - - \ -0 - ^ • Coke and Faggots - - - >?!»x " Candles, and Gas-light Company - x - £. 2,610 2,000 3.700 925 500 105 700 700 250 [• 600 120 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 337 4. — Estimated Expenditure — continued. Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use, Freight of Packages, &c. Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Boardof Works - Purchases in Natural History, and preserving the same - . . - New Cabinets for Coins -..- Purchase of Coins and Medals - - . . . . . Purchase of Antiquities - -- -.... Drawings from the Athenian Marbles ---.--.. Engraving from ■ - - ditto -----.... Printing Description of Elgin Marbles - - - Printing the Catalogue of the King's Geography and Topography - - - Purchase of Prints ........... Fitting up the Print Room, new Staircase, Library Tables, &c. - - - Purchase of Foreign Books, and continuing the Works in progress in the King's Library, ahd that of Sir Joseph Banks, and MSS. Collecting Books under Copyright Act - - - Continuation of Classed Catalogue ...... Expenses relating to the passing of two Acts of Parliament, 5 Geo. 4, c. 39, and c. 60 --•-...-„. .. Purchase of Land Tax, as directed by the Lords of the Treasury - - - Treasury Stamp on the Parliamentary Grant - - Estimate for the fifth Quarter - . . . _ Genebal Total - - - £. Deduct, the Sum before specified under No. 3 - £. Add the fraction of 1 1. - Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1829 £. £. s. 200 - 700 - 700 - 100 - 250 - 100 - 120 - 550 - •220 - 650 - 80 - 600 - 800 - 60 - 1,360 - 156 4 3,150 - 2 2 22,008 7 4,402 ] 26,410 8 9 6,512 6 9 19,898 2 - - 18 - 19,^99 - - Appendix, J Receipts, Pa^Ji and Admissi ' 1813— 18a 5 — RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSlit From 26 March 1822, to Christmas 1828. From 26 March 1822 to the 25 Maich 1823. From 26 March 1823 to Christmas 1823. From Christmas 1823 to Christmas 1824. From Christmas 1824 to Christinas 1825. From Chiistmas 1825 to Christmas 1826. From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1827. Fro Christma to Chris tma N° NO N° No No K° N March - - - 1,582 600 — — — — April - - - 8,577 11,227 9,201 11,520 15,495 6,079 9,^ May - - - 10,264 15,217 16,330 15,908 13,227 9,613 9>i June - 15,746 19,880 15,817 21,116 18,662 ' 9,039 \2,i July ... 22,164 20,154 20,995 21,892 20,204 13,280 12,J October - - , 9-504 10,154 10,250 13,148 12,419 9,950 .8,f November 8,664 8,190 8,190 8,908 12,799 4,448 4,f December 4,954 , 5,601 5,601 4,244 5,235 2,497 4,4 January - - 5,849 - 9,495 12,825 9,410 6,491 7,s February 4,888 . 7,402 6,477 7,702 8,177 4,f MarCh - -. - 6,609 . 9,595 11,605 [9,149 9:557 7,4 98,801 89,825 112,840 127,643 123,302 79,131 8i,s Mem.-;-l'he Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week (except Christmas, Easter and Whitsun Weeks ; also,' on the 30th of January, Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, 5th of Nov and any Fast or TWiinksgiving Days ordered by Proclamation, and during the months of August and September), between the Hours of Ten and Two, Visitors are admitted immediately c!n their Application. British Museum, 14 March 1829. Francis Scotney, AccQuntant. 479- X X 338 Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christmas 1828 to Christmas 1829. Balance in hand, 26th December 1828 ... Parliamentary Grant - - ... One year's Dividends on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis £. s. d. - 5.4»2 6 9 - 19,899 - - - 900 — - 29 7 4 £. 26,240 14 1 3.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1828 to Christmas 1829. Officers' Salaries of the old Establishment - - . . - Ditto - for extra Services - ..--.. Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of A ttendants and Servants Salaries of Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library ... OiBcef s' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections ... Attendants on Stoves, in both the old and new Wings . . - Rent and Taxes -------.... Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios . . - Stationery -'---.--..-.- Coals, Coke and Faggots ---.-.-.. Candles, and Gas-light Company -- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use - . . . - Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Purchases in Natural History --....._ For preserving the Collection of Zoology, &c. .... Purchase of Coins and Medals --..-._.. Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the'publication of the Gallery of Antiquities Printing Copper Plates of the Elgin Marbles - - - - - ■ Printing Mr. Payne Knight's Catalogue, in part .--... Printing the Catalogue of the King's Topography .--.-. Purchase of Books and MSS. . .-.,-.. Purchase of Prints ---.-.-.... Expenditure on account of Classed Catalogue . . _ . . Remaining Expense of removing the King's Library - - - - Collecting Books under Copyright Act .._._. Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. . . . _ . Law Expenses .--..---.- Purchase of Land Tax, as directed by the Lords of the Treasury Treasury Stamp on Parliamentary Grant - . . . . - £. £. s. d. 2,710 - - 1,895 17 Q 3,430 7 3 874 4 4 500 - - 109 4 - 664 1 7 717 19 6 ]88 - 6 477 10 - 100 10 — 236 7 3 231 6 5 402 8 6 282 13 8 238 12 - 500 1 6 249 - - 126 8 - 753 15 - 1,234 11 6 95 17 6 1,041 6 8 222 7 1 60 - - 37 5 7 41 14 - 2,811 6 - 2 2 6 20,234 17 10 Balance of /Receipts \expenses Surplus in hand - £. 96,240 14 1 ' 20,234 17 10 - - £. 6,005 16 3 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (A.)— DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS. Estimated Expense for the year for Drawings for Engravings Actual Expense of the Drawings, Engravings, (fee. of the Antiquities Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 Receipts from the Sale of Books: Estimated Produce Actual Produce of the Sale of the Synopsis ... £.120 550 — ~ £. s. d. 670 - - 500 1 6 uities - £. 7 4 • 3 169 18 6 £.200 29 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 339 Coniparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (B.)— BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books, and for MSS. Amount of Books and MSS. purchased for the year 1829 £. s. d. - 800 — — ■ 1,234 11 6 Appendix, \ Receipts, Paj and Admiiis i8ia— 18 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, ,so far as relates to (C.)-PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY, COINS AND ANTIQUITIES. T' Estimated Expense for purchases in Natural History, preserving the Collections of Minerals, Shells, Zoology, &c. For the purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities Purchases in Natural History - - , . . For preserving the Collection of Zoology, &c. Purchase of Coins and Medals - - . . - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 £. 700 - 350 - £. s. 1,050 - 923 14 d. 402 8 282 13 238 12 6 8 £. " 3 - - - 126 5 10 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (D.)-CLASSED CATALOGUE. Estimated Expense for continuing the Classed Catalogue Actual Expense for the year 1829 - . - . . Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 - By Surplus (A.) •• -£.16918 6 By ditto (C.) - - 126 5 10 By ditto (D.) - 318 13 4 614 17 8 Overpaid (B.) . . . - - 434 n 6 Difference - £. 180 6 2 £. £. s. d. 1,360 - - 1,041 6 8 318 13 4 3.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1830. Balance in hand at Christmas 1829, including the Balance of the 5th Quarter, estimated in the last Account laid before the House - - - Dividend on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities - . . . Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce abouf er. • £. s. d. 6,005 16 3 900 - - 200^ - - £. 7.105 16 3 4.--ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1829 to Christmas 1830. Officers' Salaries of the old Establishment --.... Ditto - for extra Services -- Wages, and, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and Servants Salary of Sir F. Barnard, from Christmas 1828 to 27thJanuary 1 830, as directed by the Lords of the Treasury - -..._._ Salaries of the other Librarians, and Attendants for the King's Library - Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections Attendants on Stoves - ---...... Rent and Taxes Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios . . . • . . 479. X X 2 £. s. d. 2,710 - - 2,000 - - 3,760 - - 327 2 6 925 - - 500 - - 110 _ — 650 - - TOO - (fiontinuedy 340 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i . leccipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812— -1835. 4.-^EsTiMATED Expenditure — continued. Stationery ..-.»-.....- •oals, Coke and Faggots .----.._.- Candles, and Gas-light Company - ...._.- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use, Freight of Packages, &c. - Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by tlie Board of Works - . . Purchases in Natural History, and preserving the same - . . . New Cabinets for Coins -- Purchase of Coins and Medals ---.-.... Purchase of Antiquities - - - - - - -'- Drawings from the Athenian Marbles - - - - - - Engravings from - - ditto ... - . - . Printing Description of Elgin Marbles ------ Printing Mr. Payne Knight's Catalogue of Greek Coins, in full - - - Purchase of Foreign Books, and continuing the Works in progress in the King's Library, and that of Sir Joseph Banks, and MSS. , - Purchase of Prints -.---..---- Collecting Books under Copyright Act -------- Continuation of Classed Catalogue - . . . - Law Expenses .---.------ Treasury Stamp on the Parliamentary Grant - - - - - - Estimate for the Fifth Quarter . . - Getteral Total Deduct the Sum before specified under No. 3 Add the fraction of 1 /. Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1830 £. £. s. d. 250 - - 630 - - 120 - - 200 - - 700 - - 900 - - 100 - - 250 - - 100 - - 120 - - 350 - - 220 - - 100 - - 1,500 - - 80 - - 60 - - ],i6o - - 100 - - 226 18,624 5 - 4,624 5 7J 23,248 10 7j 7,105 16 3 16,142 34 4j - 5 7i 16,143 - - 5.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From the 26 March 1823, to Christmas 1829. From From From From From From From 26 March 18-23 Christmas 1823 Christmas 1824 Christmas 1825 Christmas 1826 Christmas 1827 Christmas 1828 tu to to to to to to Christmas 1823. Christmas 1824. Christmas 1825. Christmas 1826. Christmas 1827. Christmas 1828. Christmas 1829. NO N" N° N° No N" N° \RCH - 600 ' — — — — I — ^ «_ ?RII, - 11,227 9.201 11,520 15,495 6,079 9,484 4,385 AY - - I5r2i7 16,330 15,908 12,227 9,613 9,608 10,218 NE - 19,880 i5>8i7 21,ll6 18,662 9,039 12,494 7,770 LY 20,154 20,995 •21,892 20,204 13,280 12,327 12,419 ITOBER 10,154 10,250 13,148 12,419 9,950 8,834 6,902 ^ )VEMBER 8,190 8,190 8,908 12,799 4,448 4,687 • 5,773 SCEMBER 5,601 5,601 4,244 5,235 2,497 4,458 3,189 NUARY — 9.495 12,825 9.410 6,491 7,273 6,000 BRUARY — 7,402 6,477 7,702 8,177 4,603 5,101 ARCH - — 9.595 11,605 9,149 9,557 7,460 6,344 ' 89,825 112,840 127,643 123,302 79,131 81,228 68,101 Number of Persons frequenting the Reading Room, 1,556 in 1827 ; 1,714 in 1828 : 1,758 in 1829. Artists and Students frequenting the Townley and Athenian Galleries, 920 in the 1 1 years since i8i8. Mem.— The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week, between the Hours of Ten and Four, excepting the months of August and September ; the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun Weeks ; the 30th of January, Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, 5th of November, and any Fast or Thanksgiving Days. British Museum, 13 February 1830. Francis Scotney, Accountant. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 341 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christmas 1829 to Christmas 1830. Balance in hand, 26th December 1829 Parliamentary Grant ----..-.. Ooe year's Dividends on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities . . - Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis ..... Appendi >, Receipts, and Adi £. S.K 6,005 i6 d. 3 1812- - - 16,143 - - - 900 - - - 70 12 - £. 23,119 8 3 £. s. d. 2,580 6 10 1,968 15 - 3,544 14 a 908 5 6 500 - - 2— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1829 to Christmas 1830. Officers' Salaries of the old Establishment --..-.. Ditto - for extra Services ---..... .. Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and' Servants ... Salaries of Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library - . - . Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections - . . . "The Executors of the late Sir F. Barnard, Salary from Christmas 1828 to 1830, as directed by the Lords of the Treasury --.-... Attendants on Stores, in both the old and new Wings .... Rent and Taxes -...-.....-,- •Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios - Stationery -.-----.-.--. Coals, Coke and Faggots ..... .... Candles, and Gas-light Company ..... . . Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use ...... Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works ... Purchases in Natural History ......... For Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits of Wine, Carriphor, &c. to preserve Natural History ..---..---..- • Cabinets for Coins - - ".."." Purchase of Coins, Medals, and Antiquities - . . . . . Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities Printing Copper Plates of the Elgin Marbles .-.-..- Printing Mr. Payne Knight's Catalogue Printing Tickets, Rules, &c. ... .... Purchase of Books ...-...--.. Purchase of Manuscripts _...-..... Purchase of Prints - Expenditui-e on account of Classed Catalogue Collecting Books under Copyright Act Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. -Law Expenses ..---..-..-. Treasury Stamp on Parliamentary Grant £. 327 18 11 109 4 - 675 19 933 14 169 a 497 1 97 2 331 13 261 . 9 714 15 147 1 7 5 260 - 423 6 154 9 127 13 51 8 1,084 18 599 3 124 7 793 6 30 - 27 10 103" 10 •2 2 17.456 4 3 „ , ^f Receipts Balance ofJE^p^^^^g Surplus in hand . £.23,119 8 3 17,456 4 3 . £. 5,663 4 - Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, *' so far as relates to (A.)— DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS. •Estimated Expense for the Year for Drawings for Engravings £.120 - - 350 - - Actual Expense of the Drawings ^nd Engravings, &c. of the Antiquities - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 - -' £• Receipts fkom the Sale of Books : Estimated Produce ..... Actual Produce of the Sale of the Synopsis - £. 300 - - 70 12 - £. 470 - - 423 6 - 46 14 - 479- XX 3 (pontinued), 342 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE indix, No. i . pts, Pajinenfs, Admissions, '12—1835. Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (B.)^BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books and MSS. - Amount of Books and MSS. purchased for the year 1830 Excess of ExpendiOure above Estimate - £. s. d. 1,500 - - 1,648 X 5 - - £. 184 1 5 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (C.)— PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY, COINS AND ANTIQUITIES. £. s. d. Estimated Expense for Purchases in Natural History, and for preserving the same -------- For the purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities £. 900 - - 350 - - Purchases in Natural History - - - - - Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits of Wine, Camphor, Cotton, &c. to preserve - - . . - Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities 714 15 6 147 1 3 q6o - - Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 - - £- 1,250 - - 1,131 16 9 128 3 3 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year. so &r as relates to I (D.)~CLASSED CATALOGUE. £. Estimated Expense for continuing the Classed Catalogue - - - - 1,160 Actual Expense for the year 1830 -------- 793 Q 8 Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 By Surplus (A.) - - £.46 14 - By ditto - (C.) - - 128 3 3 By ditto - (D.) - - 366 13 4 _ 541 10 7 Overpaid (B.) - - - 184 1 5 Difference - £• 357 9 2 £. 366 13 4 3.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1831. Balance in hand at Christmas 1830, including the Balance of the 5th Quarter, estimated in the last Account laid before the House - . - - - Dividend on 30,000 I. Reduced Annuities -.---.. Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about Dividend on 12,99^ I. 16 s. 7 d. Three per cent. Consols, bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater ----- - --. A small real Estate, also bequeathed by the laie Earl of Bridgewater, valued'per annum at about ---... .._. £. s. d.' 5,663 4 — 900- - - 200 - - 389 15 8 30 - - 7,182 19 8 4.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1830 to Christmas 1831. Officers' Salaries of the old Establishment - - - . Ditto - for extra Services --------- Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and Servants Salaries of the Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections - - . Attendants on Stoves ..-- -.... Rent and Taxes £. 2,710 1,950 3,700 920 500 120 675 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 343 4; — Estimated 'Exfesthtvb.j.— continued. Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios Stationery ------------- Coals, Coke and Faggots ---- ----- Candles, and Gas-light Company ..-.,.-- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use, Freight of Packages, &c. - Repairs, fkting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - - - Purchases in Natural History, and preserving the same - ^ - - - Cabinets for Coins .----.-.--- Purchase of Coins and Medals --------- Purchase of Antiquities .-.-.-.--- Drawings from the Athenian Marbles ..».---- Engravings from - ditto - - - - - - - -,- Printing Description of Athenian Marbles - - - - . - - Purchase of Foreign Books, and of MSS. ; and continuing the Works in progress in the King's Library, and that of Sir Joseph Banks - - - - - Purchase of Prints - .-..-...- Continuation of Classed Catalogue ------ Law Expenses -- ._.-.---- Treasury Stamp on the Parliamentary Grant ------- Estimate for the Fifth Quarter ----- General Total - - - Deduct the Sum before specified under No. 3 - - Add the franction of 1 /. Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1831 £. 800 200 550 100 250 400 950 100 250 100 120 450 200 1,500 100 360* 300 2 Appendix, - 17,307 2 4>326 15 6 Ik £. 21,633 18 7,182 19 8 . 14,450 18 - 1 54 6i £. 14,451 - - Receipts, Pa; and Admisi 1812— if 5.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSE From Christmas 1823 to Christmas 1830. From Christmas 1833 to Christmas 1824. From Christmas 1824 to Christmas 1825. From Christmas 1825 to Christmas 1826. From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1837. From Christmas 1827 to Christmas 1828. From Christmas 1828 to Christmas 1829. Frc Christm t Christmi January NO - 9,495 12,825 9,410 No 6,491 7,373 No 6,000 3, Febbuary 7,402 6,477 7,702 8,177 4,603 5,101 3> March - 9,595 11,605 9,149 9,557 7,460 6,344 7; April - 9,201 11,520 15,495 6,079 9,484 4,385 5, May - 16,330 15,908 12,227 9,613 9,608 10,2l8 9) June 15,817 21,116 18,662 9,039 12,494 ' 7,770 8, July 20,995 21,892 20,204 13,280 12,327 12,419 10, October 10,250 13,148 12,419 9,950 8,834 6,902 10, November 8,190 8,908 12,799 4,448 4,687 5,173 7, "December 5,601 4,244 5,235 2,497 4,458 3,189 4, # 112,876 127,643 123,302 79,131 8i,2»8 68,101 71, Number of Persons frequenting the Reading Room, 1,556 in 1827; 1,714 in i8a8; 1,758 in 1829; 1,954 in 1 Artists and Students frequenting the Townley and Athenian Galleries, 994 in the 12 years since 1818. Mem. — The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week, betwe« Hours of Ten and Four ; excepting the Months of August and September ; the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun W the 30th of January, Ash Wednesday, Good Frida;y, 5th of November, and any Fast or Thanksgiving Days. British Museum, 26 February 1831. Francis Scotney, Accountan 479- X x4 344 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE indix, No. i. pts, Payments, AdnaissioDs, 112—1835. 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christmas 1830 to Christmas 1831. Balance in hand, 26th December 1830 -------- Parliamentary Grant - - -- - - - - - -.- One year's Dividends on 30,000 L Reduced Annuities - - _ - - One year's Dividends on 12,972 1. 15*. 7 d. Three per cent. Consols', bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater for purposes named in his Lordship's Will - Rent of a small Estate, also bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater for purposes named in his Lordship's Will ------ Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis .-.-... £. £. 5,663 14,451 900 s. 4 389 15 8 28 4 11 6 10 21,436 17 6 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1830 to Christmas 1831. OflScers', Salaries, of the old Establishment - . - - . - Ditto - - for extra Services --------- Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and Servants - - - Salaries of Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library - . - - Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections - - - - Attendants on Stoves, in both the old and new Wings - - - - - Rent and Taxes -----.--.- Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios - . . . . Stationery --------- _.- Coals, Coke and Faggots -- -. ..-'. Candles, and Gas-light Company ----.-.. . Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use _ . . . _ Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Purchases in Natural History - --...- For Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits of Wine, Camphor, &c. to preserve Natural History ----- - ...- Cabinets for Coins ..-..._..._ Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities - . - . . . Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities Printing Tickets, Rules, &c. -;-- .-.-. Purchase of Books - .-......- Purchase of Manuscripts ---..-^--- • Purchase of Prints -..._. ...- Expenditure on account of Classed Catalogue ------ Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. . . . - - Law Expenses ------- ..-- Treasury Stamp on Parliamentary Grant _..-._- £. fRECEiPTs - - - £.21,436 17 6 Balance of "j |,ExPEsrsES - - - 16,684 9 9 Surplus in hand - - - £. 4,752 7 9 £. s. d. 2,759 11 11 1,911, 2 6 3,555 15 2^ 932 - 2 500 _ - 109 4 - 301 1 8 794 14 3 138 11 5 437 6 - 93 1 6 169 5 10 1- 419 16 2 805 1 - 144 4 32 15 364 7 865 - 35 7 1,062 ig 471 4 - 113 11 6 360 - - 20 18 - 285 7 10 226 16,684 9 9 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (A.)— DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS. Estimated Expense for the year - - for Drawings - - - £. 1 20 - - for Engravings - - - 450 - - for Printing, &.C. - - 200 - - Actual Expense of the Drawings, Engravings, Printing, &c. of the Antiquities - Excess of Expenditure above Estimate - - - £. Receipts from the SAtE of Books: Estimated Produce - - - Actual Produce of the Sale of the Synopsis' £. 200 - - 4 6 10 £. s. d. 770 - - 865 - 6 95 - 6 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 34& Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (B.)— BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense for the purchase of Books and MSS. - - . Amount of Books and MSS. purchased, for the year 1831 - Excess of Expenditure above Estimate - - - £. 1,500 1.534 s. d. 3 9 £. 34 3 9 Appendix, No;i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (C.)-PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY, COINS AND ANTIQUITIES. Estimated Expense for purchases in Natural History, and for"l - preserving the same - - - - - - .J'9>'~ For the purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities, and Cabi-l nets for the same --------j Purchases in Natural History - - . - . Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits of Wine, Camphor, Cot-\ ton, &c. to preserve the same - - - -J Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities, and Cabinets! for the same __-.-. -j Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 ;.950 - - £. *. d. 450 - - 1,400 - - 805 1 - 144 4 - 397 2 6 1,346 1 6 ,.3 - - £■ 53 12 6 (D.)--CLASSED CATALOGUE. Estimated Expense for continuing the Classed Catalogue Actual Expense for the year 1831 By Overpaid (A.) By ditto (B.) Surplus (C.) - £.95 - 6 34 3 9 Difference — 129 4 3 53 12 6 - £-75 u 9 £. ». d. 360 - - 360 - - 720 - - 3.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1832. Balance in hand at Christmas 1831, including the Balance of the 5th Quarter, estimated in the last Account laid before the House - - - - - Dividend on 30,000/. Reduced Annuities ------- Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about Dividend on 12,992 I. 15 s. 7 rf. Three per cent. Consols, bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater for purposes named in his Lordship's Will - - .. A small Real Estate, also bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater for purposes ■ named in his Lordship's Will, and valued per annum at - - - - l-,752 7 9 900 - - ■200 - - 389' 15 8 30 - - 6,272 3 ,5 4.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1831 to Christmas 1832. Officers' Salaries, of the old Establishment -.---. Ditto - - for extra Services ...-»-.. Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and Servants - Salaries of tne Librarians and Attendants for the King's, Library Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections iVttendants on Stoves .---«.---- Rent and Taxes -.--..-...• Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios Stationery ---... --.... Coals, Coke and Faggots - - - - - - • -•- 479- T Y £. 2,710 1,950 3,700 920 500 120 550 800 200 560 (^continued!^ 846 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE ipendiXjNo. i. ceipts, Payments, tnd Admissions, x8ia— 1835. 4 — EsTialATED Expenditure — continued. Candles, and Gas-light Company Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use, Freight of Packages, &c. - Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Bpard of Works ... Purchases in Natural History, and preserving the same . - - - - Cabinets for Coins -_-•---.»-- Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities - - - - - - Drawings from the Athenian Marbles -------- Engravings from . - - ditto - -...---- Printing Description of Athenian Marbles ------- Purchase of Foreign Books and of MSS., and continuing the Works in progress in the King's Library, and that of Sir Joseph Banks - - - - - Purchase of Prints -.-.------- Continuation of Classed Catalogue -------- Law Expenses ---.--..----- To make good deficiency in the Value of Duplicates exchanged with the Royal Society for Arundel MSS. --------- To be applied according to the provisions of the Will of the late Earl of Bridgwater - - - - - -- Treasury Stamp for Parliamentary Grant . . - . - Estimate for the 5th Quarter ----- General Total Deduct, the Sum before specified under No. 3 - Add the fraction ofi/. - Sum to be provided for the year ending Christmas 1832 £. i. d. 100 - - 250 - - 400 - - 950 - - 50 - _ 1,000 - — 150 - - 450 - - 200 - - 1,500 - - 100 - - 360 - - 130 - - yal of goo - 192 15 2 2 1 6 £. 18,734 17 4,458 14 7 4 £. 23.193 11 6,272 3 11 5 £. 16,921 8 - 11 6 6 £. 16,922 - ~ 5.--RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1831. From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1827. From Christmas 1827 to Christmas 1828. From Christmas 1828 to Christmas 1829. From Christmas 1829 to Christmas 1830. From Christmas 1830 to Christmas 1831. No N" N° No NO January . - - 6,491 7.273 6,000 3,870 7,551 February 8,177 4,603 5,101 3,847 6,542 March . - - 9,557 7.560 6,344 7,558 8,969 April ... 6,079 9,484 4,385 5,970 8,185 Mat . . - 9,613 9.608 10,218 9,309 10,651 June . - . 9.039 12,494 7,770 8,067 14,882 July 13,280 12,327 12,419 10,537 17,511 October . - . 9.950 8,834 6,902 10,224 12,004 November 4,448 4,687 5,773 7,582 8,425 December 2,497 4,458 3,189 4,372 4,992 79,131 81,228 68,101 71,336 99,712 Number of Visits made to the Reading Rooms, for the purpose of Study or Research, about 1,950 in 1810; 4,300 in 1815; 8,880 in 1820; 3z,8oo in 1825; 31,200 in 1830; 38,200 in 1831. Number of Visits, by Artists and Students, to the Townley and Athenian Galleries, for the purpose of Study, in 1S31, 4,39^. Number of Visits made to the Print Room, in 1831, about 4,400. Mem.— The Days of Public Admission are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, in every Week, between the Hours of Ten and Four, excepting the months of August and September ; the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun Weeks ; the 30th of January, Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, 5th of November, and any Fast or Thanksgiving Days. British Museum,"1 16 Feb. 1832. J Francis Scoiney, Accountant. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christmas 1831 to Christmas 1832. Balance in hand, 26th December 1831 • ...... Parliamentary Grant ... ........ One year's Dividends on 30,000 /. Reduced Annuities ..... One year's Dividends on 12,972 /. 1 5 «. 7 d. Three per Cent. Consols, bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater, for purposes named in his Lordship's Will - Rent of a small Estate, also bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater, for purposes named in his Lordship's Will ....... Cash received for the Sale of the Synopsis and other Museum Publications Cash received for Sundries sold -. - - 84^7 £. 4,752 16,922 900 d. 9 389 15 8 23 11 10 148 15 4 34 8 6 23,170 19 1 Appendix, No. l. Receipts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. 2— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1831 to Christmas 1832, Officers' Salaries, of the old Establishment ....... Ditto- - for extra Services -- ._.-_. Wages, Board Wages and Salaries of Attendants and Servants ... Salaries of Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library .... Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections .... Attendants on Stoves, in both the old and new Wings - - . - . Rent and Taxes ..---.---... Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios . . . - Stationery ..... ....... Coals, Coke and Faggots ---, -- Candles and Gas-light Company ... Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use --.-.. Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - - - Purchases in Natural History -- . - -- For Insect Cabinets, Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits of Wine, Camphor, &c. to preserve Natural History --..-..--. Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities .--.-.. Cabinets for Coins """7 "" Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of The Gallery of Antiquities - Printing, &c. ditto ----....._. Drawings of Egyptian Frescos - Repairing and fixing ditto -- ...._.. Printing Tickets, Rules, &c. - - -- - - - -'-. Purchase of Books --.---..-.. Purchase of Manuscripts -------... Ditto pursuant to the Will of the late Earl of Bridgewater . - . . Purchase of Prints ...-...---. Expenditure on account of Classed Catalogue ...... Removing and repairing Architectural Casts presented by the Royal Academy . Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. Law Expenses -.-.-..----. Treasurer of the Royal Society, on account of Arundel MSS. . . - Treasury and Exchequer Stamps on Parliamentary Grant - . - . £. ■o 1 c r Receipts Balance of 1^^^^^^^^ . Surplus in hand - £.23,170 19 1 - 18,572 3 8 • £. 4,598 15 5 £. s. d. 2,742 5 1,950 - 3,675 14 948 - 500 - 109 439 711 i8i 384 - 128 16 211 4 361 9 648 3 294 12 10 1,018 9 6 30 - - 459 17 - 100 - _ 84 - - 183 4 14 _ 1,032 8 480 12 373 14 102 18 360 - - 31 14 - 19 4 1 128 4 9 865 15 5 326 18,572 3 8 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (A.)— DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS, Estimated Expense for the year - . for Drawings - . £. 150 - - for Engravings - for Printing, i&c. 450 - - 100 - - Actual Expense of the Drawings, Engravings, Printing, &c. of the Antiquities Surplus not Expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 - - £• Receipts fkom the Sale op Books: Estimated Produce £. 200 - - Actual Produce qf the Sale of the Synopsis and Museum Publications 148 1^ 4 479- y T 2 £. 700 - -• 559 17 - 140 3 - (fsontitmed) 348 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE ppendix, No. i. eceipts, Payments, and Admissions, ■ 1812—1835. Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (B.)— BOOK FUND. Estimated Expense fur the purchase of Books and MSS. Amount of Books and Manuscripts purchased, for the year 1 832 Excess of Expenditure above Estimate £. s. d. 1,500 - - 1,513 - 10 13 - 10 Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (C.)— PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY, COINS AND ANTIQUITIES. Estimated Expense for Purchases in Natural History, and for"! . preserving the same - - - - - --- J 950 - - For the purchase of Coins,' Medals and Antiquities ; and Cabi nets for the same ,050 - - Purchases in Natural History -----£. 648 3 2 Cabinets, Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits, of Wine, Cam-I phor, Cotton, &c. to preserve the same - - -J 9+ ^^ ■'^ Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities - - - 1,018 9 6 Surplus not expended, and included in the Funds, No. 3 - 2j000 - 1,961 6 6 38 14 6 (D.)— CLASSED CATALOGUE. Estimated Expense for continuing the Classed Catalogue Actual Expense for the year 1832 - . . . . By Surplus (A.) - - £. 140 3 - By ditto - (C.) - Overpaid (B.) - Difference 38 14 6 178 17 6 13 - 10 £. 165 16 8 £. ». d. 360 - _ 360 - - 3.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1833. Balance in hand at Christmas 1832, including the Balance of the 5th Quarter, estimated in the last Account laid before the House - . - . . Dividend on 30,000 Z. Reduced Annuities --.-... Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce about Dividend on 12,992 Z. 15 i. T d. Three per cent. Consols, be-"l /-.o. ,. o queathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater - . . -j" *-J°9 i5 o To be applied to specific purposes named in his Lordship's Will - 19215 i Remains for the general purposes of the Museum A small Real Estate, also bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater for purposes named in his Lordship's Will, and valued per annum at - - - . 4,598 15 5 900 - - 200 - - 197 - 7 25 - - 5,920 16 - 4.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1832 to Christmas 1833. Officers' Salaries, of the old Establishment ------ Ditto - - for extra Services -------- Wages, Board Wages, and extra Pay of Attendants and Servants - Salaries of the Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections - - . Attendants on Stoves -- ........ Rent and Taxes ---- Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios £. 2,710 1,950 3,700 948 500 120 360 800 d. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 349 4. — Estimated Expenditure — continued. Stationery -.---.-.---.- Coals, Coke and Faggots -- -- Candles, and Gas-light Company --------- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use.. Freight of Packages, &c. Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works - - - Purchases in Natural History, and preserving the same Cabinets for Coins --.-.-....- Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities ------- Drawings from the Athenian Marbles - - Engravings from - - ditto -------- Printing Description of Athenian Marbles Purchase ofBooks and of MSS. - . Purchase of Prints .-- Continuation of Classed Catalogue -- Printed Catalogue of MSS. Law Expenses --.--.--.--- Treasury and Exchequer Stamps for Parliamentary Grant . - - . £. Estimate for the Fifth Quarter . - - - General Total - - - £. Deduct, the Sum before specified under No. 3 £ Add the fraction ofi/. - £. £. s. d. 200 - - 550 - - 100 - - 250 - - 400 - - 950 - - 50 - - 1,000 - - 130 - - 350 - - 200 - - 2,000 - - 100 - - 360 - - 300 - - ]8o - - 326 18,211 2 6 4»552 15 7 22,763 18 1 5,920 16 - 16,843 3 1 - 17 11 16,844 - - Appendix, No. : Receipts, Payment! and Admissions, 1812— 1O35. 5.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From Christmas 1826 to Christmas 1832. From From From From From From Christmas 1826 Christmas 1827 Christmas 1828 Christmas 1829 Christmas 1830 Christmas 1831 to to to to to to . Christmas 1827. Christmas 1828. Christmas 1829. Christmas 1830. Christmas 1831. Christmas 1833. N" N" No No N» NO January 6,491 7,273, 6,000 3,870 7.751 9,179 February 8,177 4,603 5,101 3.847 6,542 11,547 March - 9.557 7,460 6,344 7,558 8,969 11,909 April - 6,079 9,484 4,385 5,970 8,185 12,498 May - 9>6i3 9,608 10,218 9.309 10,651 18,158 June 9.039 12,494 7,770 • 8,067 14,882 17.048 July 13,280 12,327 12,419 10,537 17.511 26,093 October 9.950 8,834 6,902 10,224 12,004 19,878 November 4.448 4,687 5,773 7.582 8,425 13,626 December 2,497 4,458 3,189 4.372 4,992 7.960 79,131 81,228 68,101 71.336 99.112 147,896 Number of Visits made to the Reading Rooms, for the purpose of Study or Research, about 1,950 in i8io; 4,300 ini8i5; 8,820 in 1820; 22,800 in 1825; 31,200 in 1830; 38,200 in 1831 ; 46,800 in 1832. Number of Visits, by Artists and Students, to the Townley and Athenian Galleries, for the purpose of Study, in 1831, 4,398; in 1832, 4,740. Number of Visits made to the Print Room in 1831, about 4,400 ; in 1832, about the same Number. Mem.— The Days of Public Admission to view the Museum are, the Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week, between the Hours of Ten and Four, excepting the months of August and September ; the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun Weeks ; the 30th of January, Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, the 5th of November, and any Fast or Thanksgiving Days. British Museum,"! 12 Feb. 1833. / Francis Scotney, Accountant. 479- Y Y 3 350 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE pendix, No. i. ceipts, Pajmeiits, nd Admissions, 1812—1835. 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christinas 1832 to Christmas 1833. Balance in hand, 26th December 1832 Parliamentary Grant ----.-.. ... One year's Dividends on 30,000 L Reduced Annuities - - . - - One year's Dividends on 12,972^. 15 a. 'j d. Three per Cents., bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater, for purposes named in his Lordship's Will Rent of a small Estate, also bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater, for purposes named in his Lordship's Will -.--..- Cash received by the Sale of the Synopsis, and Museum Publications £. 4,598 16,844 900 15 5 389 15 8 25 462 »5 1 10 23,220 7 11 £. s. rf. 2,559 17 4 1,912 10 - 3,918 15 7 948 - 500 - — 156 10 - 467 1 5 796 10 145 - 1 S96 - — 89 19 1 169 13 5i 2.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1832 to Christmas 1833. Officers' Salaries, of the old Establishment ...... Ditto - - for extra Services .-..---. Salaries and Board Wages of Assistants, Attendants and Servants Salaries of Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library . , - Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections - - . Attendants on Stoves -- .-.....„ Rent and Taxes .--.------- Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios - - - . . Stationery ----.--..-.. Coals, Coke and Faggots ---..--.. Candles, and Gas-light Company ---.-... liicidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use ..... Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Purchases in Natural History .....-.-, For Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits of Wine, Camphor, &c. and Stuffing ZoolO' gical Specimens ... -.-..., Cabinets for Insects and Botanical Specimens ..... Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities .----.. Egyptian Papyri, and framing them ..--.-.. Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of The Gallery of Antiquities Cleaning Pictures, with new Frames, repairing Antiquities, &c. Printing Tickets, Rules, Statutes, List of Additions, &c. - . . . Printing Catalogue of MSS, Printing Synopsis, folding, stitching, &c. ... . . . Purchase of Books ....-----.. Purchase of Manuscripts ...------. Ditto - - pursuant to the Will of the late Earl of Bridgewater - Purchase of Prints ...--.-.-.. Expenditure on account of Classed Catalogue ...... Clearing Goods at the Custom-hou»e, Freight, &c. - - . . Law Expenses .--.----.--. Treasury Stamp on Parliamentary Grant --..-.. £. 367 10 10 761 7 - 166 8 - 98 9 6 1.839 18 - 494 15 6 333 18 - 266 13 6 63 1 - 200 - - 324 1 1,359 13 574 10 - 110 - - 112 4 - 360 - - 17 >5 7 140 12 2 3 12 6 3 6 19,484 7 Zi (■Receipts - Balance of ■{ _ (.Expenses - Surplus in hand - - £.23,220 7 11 - - 19,484 1 Zl - £-3,736 - 7^ Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Receipts and Expenditure of the Year, so far as relates to (A.)— Rli^CEIPTS FROM THE SALE OF MUSEUM PUBLICATIONS. £. s. d. Estimated Produce 200 -- Actual Produce ... 462 1 - Surplus included in Funds, No. 3 - . - £. 262 1 - SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 351 (B.)-DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS OF THE ELGIN AND TOWNLEY MARBLES. Estimated Expenditure - - for Drawings for Engravings for Printing - £.130 - - 350 - - 200 - - Actual Expense of the Drawings and EngVavings - . - Surplus not expended, and included in Funds, No. 3 - £. £. s, d. 680 - - 333 18 -. 346 2 - Appendix, No. 1. Receipts, Payroenti, and Admissions, 1812—1835. (C.)— PURCHASES OF BOOKS AND MANUSCRIPTS, &c. Estimated Expenditure Books and MSS. purchased - Egyptian Papyri, and framing them £■1,934 3 6 424 15 6 Excess of Expenditure above Estimate - - • £. £. J. d. 2,000 - - 2,358 19 - 358 19 - (D.)— PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Estimated Expenditure ...----..- Purchases in Natural History ------£. 761 7 - Cabinets, Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits of Wine, &c. &c. to preserve the same - - . _ . 264 17 6 Excess of Expenditure above Estimate £. £. s. d. 950 - - 1,026 4 6 76 4 6 (E.)— PURCHASES OF ANTIQUITIES, COINS, &c. WITH CABINETS. £. s. d, 1,050 - - 1,839 18 - Estimated Expenditure Purchase of Coins, Antiquities, &c. Excess of Expenditure above Estimate - - - £. (F.)— EXPENSE OF THE CLASSED CATALOGUE. Estimated Expense for continuing the Classed Catalogue Actual Expense .-------- By Surplus (A. - - - - £.262 1 - By ditto (B.) - - - - 346 2 - By Overpaid (C.) - By - ditto - (D.) - By - ditto - (E.) - 358 19 - 76 4 6 789 18 - 608 3 - X,225 I 6 789 18 £. *. d. 360 - - 360 - - 616 18 6 3.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS for the Year ending Christmas 1834 Balance in hand at Christmas, including the Balance of the 5th Quarter, in the last Account laid before The House - £. 3,736 - 7 J Belonging to the Bridgewater Fund - ... - 267 Dividend on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities . " ■ ■ " " " Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce ... Dividend on 12,992^. 15s. yd. Three per cent. Consols, be- queathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater - . - - A small Real Estate, also bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater, valued per annum at - - - - - 389 15 8 25 - - To be applied to the purchase of MSS. - - - To be applied towards the Salaries of Keepers of MSS. Estimated Produce of intended Sale of Duplicate Coins 414 15 8 187 15 2 . £■ £. 3.733 14 -4 900 - - 400 - - 227 - 6 500 - - 5,760 14 6J 479- T Y 4 362 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. i. Receipts, Payments, and Admissiuns, 1812—1835. 4.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1833 to Christmas 1834. OflScers' Salaries, of the old Establishment - . - - - Ditto . •» for extra Services ------- Salaries and Board Wages of Assistants, Attendants and Servants Salaries of Liljrarians and Attendants for the King's Library- Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections Attendants on Stoves -----.---■ .Rent and Taxes ----------- Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios . - . - . Stationery --------- -■ Coals, Coke and Faggots - - - - • - - . Candles, and Gas-light Company' - - - , . Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use, Freight, &c. Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Purchases in Natural History, and preserving the Collections - Cabinets for Coins -.-------. Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities - - - - Drawings from the Athenian Marbles ' - Engravings from - - ditto -.-..--. Printing Description of ditto - - . - - _ - Purchase of Books and MSS. Purchase of Prints --,..----- Continuation of Classed Catalogue - . _ . - - Printing Catalogue of MSS. Law Expenses --------- Treasury and Exchequer Stamps for Parliamentary Grant - - - Estimate for the Fifth Quarter - - - - General Total - - Deduct, the Sura before specified under No. 3 - - Add. the fraction oi il. - £. s. d. - 2,560 - - - 1,950 - - _ 3.^20 948 : : - 500 160 _ - 420 - - ' 900 — — - 200 - — - 450 - - - 100 - — 250 — - - 400 - - ' 950 - - 50 - - - 200 - — - 130 - - - 270 - - - 200 - - - 2,500 - - - 200 — — - 360 - - - 450 - - - 150 - - - 3 12 6 £. l8,221 12 6 - 4.555 8 1 ■ £. 22,777 5,760 - 7 14 6J £. 17,016 6 -4 - - 1 3 114 £. 17,017 - - 5.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, From Christmas 1827 to Christmas 1833. 'From From From From From From Christmas 1827 Christmas 1828 Christmas 1829 Christmas 1830 Christmas 1831 Christmas 183a to to to to to to Christmas 1828. Cliristmas 1829. Christmas 1830. Christmas 1831. Christmas 1832. Christmas 1833. N» N» N° Jfo NO Ifo January 7,273 6,000 3.870 7.751 9.179 16,318 February 4,603 5,101 3,847 6,542 11,547 12,464 March - 7,460 6,344 7.558 8,969 11.909 17.738 April - 9,484 4,385 5,970 8,185 12,498 1 2,994 May - 9,608 10,218 9,309 10,651 13,158 19,485 June 12,494 7.770 8,067 14,883 17,048 ■ 28,821 July 12,327 12,419 10,537 17,511 26,093 36,191 August - - - - - 28,260 September - - - - . - . - - 207 October 8,834 6,902 10,224 12,004 19.878 19,932 November 4,687 5,773 7,582 8,425 13,626 11,620 December 4.458 3,189 4,372 4,992 7,960 6,459 81,228 68,101 • 71,336 99,912 147,896 210,495 Number of Visits made to the Reading Rooms, for the purpose of Study or Research, about 1,950 in 1810; 4,300 in 1815; 8,820 inl820; 22,800 in 1825; 31,200 in 1830 : 38,200 in 1831 ; 46,800 in 1832 ; 58,8oo''in 1833. Number of Visits, by Artists and Students, to the Galleries of Sculpture, for the purpose of Study, 4,398 in iS''! • 4,740 in 1832 ; 4,490 in 1833. Number of Visits made to the Print Room, about 4,400 in 1832 ; about 2,900 in 1833. Mem. — The Public are admitted to the British Museum on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week, between the Hours of Ten and Four, except during the month of September. Persons applying for the purpose of Study or Research are admitted to the Reading Rooms every day, between the Hours of Ten and Four, on bringing proper Recommendations. Artists are admitted to Study in the Galleries of Sculpture every day, between the Hours of Nine and Four, except Saturday. The Museum is closed daring the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun Weeks ; on the 30th of January, Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, the 5th of November, and any Fast or Thanksgiving Days ordered by Authority. British Museum, 8 February 1834. Francis Scoiney, Accountant. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 353 1.— GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL RECEIPTS, From Christmas 1833 to Christmas 1834. Balance in hand, 26th December 1833 Parliamentary Grant - - . Fourth Instalment not received £.17,017 - - ■ 4,254 5 - One year's Dividends on 30,000 1. Reduced Annuities - - . . One year's Dividends on 12,972 I, 15 s. Three per Cents., bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater, for purposes named in his Lordship's Will - - - Rent of a small Estate, also bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater, for pur- poses named in his Lordship's Will ---.-.-- Cash received by the Sale of the Synopsis and Museum Publications Cash received by the Sale of Duplicate Coins .... £. 3,736 d. 7h 12,762 15 - 900 - - 389 15 8 25 14 - 354 17 - 656 2 6 18,825 4 9i 2._GENERAL ACCOUNT OF ALL PAYMENTS, From Christmas 1833 to Christmas 1834. Officers' Salaries, of the Old Establishment ..-.-.- Ditto ~ - for extra Services ._.--.... Salaries and Board Wages of Assistants, Attendants and Servants - . - Salaries of Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library . . . . Officers' Salaries, of the Banksian Library and Collections _ . - - Attendants on Stoves -----....-- Rent, Rates and Taxes --...*.-.. Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios -,..-. Unrolling and framing Papyri, repairing Charters, &c. - . . . - Stationery .... ........ Coals, Coke and Faggots .-......-- Candles, and Gas-light Conapany .-.-....- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use, &c. --...- Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works . . - Purchases in Natural History ........ For Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits, of Wine, Camphor, &c., and Stuffing Zoo- logical Specimens ........... Cabinets for Insects and Botanical Specimens - - - . - - Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities -.--.-- Cabinets for Coins and Gems .__-....- Drawings, Engravings, &c. for the publication of The Gallery of Antiquities - Drawings, &c. from Egjrptian Frescos ----.-. Printing Tickets, Rules, Statutes, List of Additions, &c. . . . . Printing Catalogue of MSS., with Engraving, colouring of Plates, &c. Printing Synopsis, folding, stitching, &c. .... . . Purchase of Books ..-...-..-. Purchase of Manuscripts --..--.--- Ditto - - pursuant tO the Will of the late Earl of Bridgewater, and Binding Purchase of Prints - .....■-. Expenditure on account of new Catalogue of Printed Books - - . Clearing Goods at the Custom-house, Freight, &c. ------ Law Expenses -..-..-...--- Treasury Stamp on Parliamentary Grant £. £. «. d. 2,523 3 7 1,875 - -, 4,185 15 8 961 13 2 500 - - 198 5 — 258 12 3 767 12 4 228 19 6 i88 14 5 311 10 — 79 17 - 191 5 9 327 4 11 702 9 — 221 2 _, 41 7 - 229 13 t) 33 10 - 402 3 - 10 10 - 72 9 - 375 7 4 216 12 10 i>974 9 11 528 7 b' 331 9 6 225 ti - 382 11 4 79 8 8 149 8 10 3 2 6 18,577 1 6 Appendix, No. Receipts, Paymei and Admissions 1812—1835. r Receipts - Balance of i p LtiXPENSES - Surplus in hand £. 18,825 4 9i - 18,577 1 6 - £. 248 3 3 i 479- z z {continued) 354 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 1. Hecelpts, Payments, and Admissions, 1812—1835. Comparison of the last ESTIMATE with the Actual Receipts and Expenditure of the Year, as far as relates to (A.)— RECEIPTS FROM THE SALE OF MUSEUM PUBLICATIONS.- £. s. d. Estimated Produce .--.--..--- 400 - - Actual Produce ------------ 354 17 - Excess of Estimate above actual Produce 45 3 - (B.)— DRAWINGS AND ENGRAVINGS OF THE ELGIN AND TOWNLEY MARBLES. Estimated Expenditure - - - - - for Drawings - - £.130 - - for Engravings - 270 - - for Printing - - 200 - - £. s. d. 600 — Actual Expense - - - Surplus not Expended - - £. 402 3 - 197 17 - (C.)— PURCHASES OF BOOKS AND MANUSCRIPTS. Estimated Expenditure Books and MSS. purchased - Egyptian Papyri, and framing them £. 2,502 7 5 228 ig 6 Excess of Expenditure above Estimate - - - £. (D.)~PURCHASES IN NATURAL HISTORY. Estimated Expenditure --..-..-. Purchases in Natural History . - . - - £. 702 9 Cabinets, Trays, Stands, Bottles, Spirits of Wine, &c. to preserve the same - - - - -'- - ^2 12 Surplus not Expended £. s. d. 2,500 - - 2,731 \Q 11 231 16 - £. «. d. 950 - - 923 11 26 9 (E.)— PURCHASES OF ANTIQUITIES, COINS, &c. WITH CABINETS. £. s. d. Estimated Expenditure Purchase of Antiquities, Coins, &c. Excess of Expenditure above Estimate - £. 250 - _ 263 3 6 13 3 6 (F.)-EXPENSE OF THE NEW CATALOGUE OF PRINTED BOOKS. Estimated Expenditure Actual Expense - Excess of Expenditure above Estimate By Deficiency (A.) By Overpaid (C.) By ditto - (E.) By ditto - (F.) By Surplus - (B.) By ditto - (D.) - £-45 3 i-5 3 -"1 231 16 11 I „ 13 3 6f ^-312 14 9 22 11 4J 1? 'I :} -4 6 - £. «. d. 360 - - 382 11 4 22 11 4 88 8 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 355 3.— ACCOUNT OF FUNDS, For the Year ending Christmas 1835. Balance in hand at Christmas . . . - - Hemainder of last Parliamentary Grant, received in February Balance due from the Bridgewater Fund ... Dividends on 30,000?. Reduced Annuities - . - - Receipts from the Museum Publications, estimated to produce Dividends on 12,992?. 15s. 7rf. Three per cent. Console, be- queathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater . - - - A small Real Estate, also bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridge- water, taken for the year at - ----- - To be applied to the purchase of MSS. - To be applied towards the Salaries of Keepers of MSS. Appendix, No. 1 Receipts, Payments and Admissions, 1812—1835. £. 248 3 3i £. *. d. 4,254 5 - 140 13 9 4,643 900 2 .-i - - - - 350 - - 389 15 8 30 - - 409 15 8 187 15 2 222 £. - 6 6,115 2 6J 4.— ESTIMATED EXPENDITURE, From Christmas 1834 to Christmas 1835. Officers' Salaries, of the old Establishment .----. Ditto - , for extra Services --.-.... Salaries and Board Wages of Assistants, Attendants and Servants Salaries of Librarians and Attendants for the King's Library - - . Officers' Salaries, for the Banksian Library and Collections ... Attendants on Stoves ....._... Rent, Rates and Taxes - - - - -- Bookbinding, binding of MSS. and Portfolios, and framing Papyri - Stationery ------------ Coals, Coke and Faggots .--...--. Candles, and Gas-light Company -- Incidents, for sundry Articles of domestic use, &c. .... Repairs, fitting up Shelves, &c. not paid by the Board of Works Purchases in Natural History, and preserving the Collections . . - Purchases to continue Sir Joseph Banks's Botanical Collection Cabinets for Coins -^-. ...... Purchase of Coins, Medals and Antiquities -.-.-- Drawings from the Athenian Marbles ....... Engravings from - - ditto .....--. Printing Description of ditto .....--. Drawings and Engravings of Egyptian Inscriptions Purchase of Books and Manuscripts . Purchase of Prints .......... jContinnation of new Catalogue of printed Books . . - - . Transcribing Catalogue, with a view to the removing of the Library to the new Wing -.--....... Printing Catalogue of Manuscripts ..■.-. Law Expenses ...-.._-.. Treasury and Exchequer Stamps for Parliamentary Grant Estimate for the Fifth Quarter .... General Total - - Deduct, the Sum before specified under No, 3 Add the fraction of 1 /. - £. s. d. •- 2,560 - — - 1,900 - - . 4.250 96s ^ •mm - 500 - - - 200 - - - 320 - - - 950 - — - 200 - — - 400 - - - 100 - - . 250 - - - 350 — - ~ 950 80 — >- - 50 - - - 500 - - 130 - - ' 270 - - - 200 - - . 100 - — - 2,500 - - - 200 - - lew 500 - - 200 _ „ - 400 - - - 100 - - - 3 12 6 £. 19,128 12 6 - 4,782 3 li £. 23,910 15 lh - 6,115 2 6i £. 17,795 13 6 1 £. 17,796 - - 479- z z 2 356 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE 5.— RETURN OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONS ADMITTED TO VIEW THE BRITISH MUSEUM, Frons Christmas 1828 to Christmas 1834. ■Prom Christmas 1828 to Christmas 1829. From Christmas 1829 to Christmas 1830. From Christmas 1830 to Christmas 1831. From Christmas 1831 to Christmas 1832. ' From Christmas 1832 to Christmas 1833. From Christmas 1833 to Christmas 1834. N" N" NO N° NO N" January 6,000 3,870 7,751 9,179 16,318 16,977 Febkuary 5,101 3,847 6,542 11,547 12,464 - 16,639 March - 6,344 7,558 8,969 11,909 17,738 16,181 April - 4.385 5,970 8,185 12,498 12,994 16,252 May 10,218 9,309 10,651 18,158 19,485 19,057 June 7,770 8,067 14,882 17,048 28,821 36,652 July 12,419 10,537 17,511 26,093 36,191 36,485 August - - - - - 28,260 26,144 September - m •» " - . 207 485 October 6,902 10,224 12,004 19,878 19,932 29,160 November 5,773 7,582 8,425 13,626 11,626 12,246 December 3,189 4,372 4,992 7,960 6,459 ii,o8B 68,101 71,336 99,912 147,896 210,495 237,366 Number of Visits made to the Reading Rooms, for the purpose of Study or Research, about 1,950 in 1810; 4,300 in 1815; 8,820 in 1820; 22,800 in 1825 ; 31,200 in 1830 ; 38,200 iniSsi; 46,800 in 1832 ; 58,800 in 1833; 70,266 in 1834. Number of Visits, by Artists and Students, to the Galleries of Sculpture, for the purpose of Study 4,938 in 1831 ; 4,740 in 1832 ; 4,490 in 1833 ; 5,645 in 1834. , ■'' Number of Visits made to the Print Room, about 4,400 in 1832 ; 2,900 in 1833 ; 2,204 i" 1834. Mem. — The Public are admitted to the British Museum on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in every Week, between the Hours of Ten and Four, except during the month of September. Persons applying for the purpose of Study or Research are admitted to the Reading Rooms every day, between the Hours of Ten and Four, on bringing proper Recommendations. Artists are admitted to Study in the Galleries of Sculpture every day, between the Hours of Nine and Four, except Saturday. The Museum is closed during the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun Weeks ; on the 30th of January Ash Wednesday, Good Friday, the 5th of November, and any Fast or Thanksgiving Days ordered by Authority. a a . j British Museum, 17 Feb. '.835. Mateer Cowtan, Accountant. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 357 , ,. TIT ^ Appendix, No. i Appendix, No. 2. Parliamentary Gran: for Purchases. SPECIAL GRANTS Voted by Parliament between the ist January i8n and the 1st January 1835, 1811—1835. for the Purchase of Collections to be deposited in the British Museui^i. 1813: 7 July 1814: 4 July 1816: 10 June 1818: 5 May 1825: 25 Apr. 1834: 5 Aug. A Collection of Works and MSS. chiefly on Jurisprudence, belong- ing to Francis Hargrave, Esq. -,-.--. A numerous Collection of Ancient Bronzes, of Greek and Roman Coins, of Gems, Drawings, &c. formerly belonging to Charles Townley, Esq. .--.-.-.- The Collection of Greek Antiquities formed by the Earl of Elgin, consisting of Sculptures from the Parthenon, a number of Coins, Vases, and Architectural Drawings, &c. .... A Collection of Biblical and Classical MSS., an extensive series of Editions of Classical Authors, many enriched with MS. Notes by eminent scholars, and a Library of Books iu Theology, Criticism, and general Literature, with a rare Collection of Newspapers from the year 1603 ...... A very extensive Collection of MSS. in the Syriac, Arabic, Persian and Turkish Languages; a numerous series of Cufic aad other Oriental Coins, and several Gems and Antiquities, belonging to the late Claudius James Rich, Esq. - . . A Collection of Egyptian Antiquities, particularly illustrative of the domestic manners of the ancient inhabitants of Egypt, belonging to Mr. Joseph Sams -...-- A Collection of Fossil Saurian Remains, formed by Mr. Thomas Hawkins ...--..... £. s. d. 8,000 - - 8,200 - - 35,000 - - 13,500 - - 7»50O - - 2,500 - - 1,310 5 - British Museum, 20 Oct. 1835. J. ForshaU, Secretary. Appendix, No. 3. Appendix, No. RETURN to an Order of the Honourable House of Commons, dated 1 April 1833 't—for, (1-) A GENERAL ACCOUNT of all Sums of Money Received and Expended on account of the British Museum, from whatever source the same may have been derived, from 1 6th February 1821 to 25th March 1833 inclusive, each year respectively, under the following heads: — of Receipts, cjz. Parliamentary Grant, Dividends on Stock, Rents, Sale of Books, Prints, Synopsis, Museum Publications, Sundries, additional Receipts: Payments, tiiz. 1. Gross Amount of Salaries of all the Officers, and of extra Service Money paid to ditto; 2. Ditto ditto to Attend- ants ; 3. Wages and Board Wages to Servants ; 4. Lighting and Warming the Museum ; 5. Amount expended on objects of Literature, Science, Fine Arts, Natural History, &c. to be deposited in the Museum; 6. Book-binding; 7. Printing; 8. Stationery; 9. Law Expenses; additional Payments. (2.)— A GENERAL ACCOUNT of all Bequests, Donations and Contributions above the value of £. 100, made to tie British Museum, between l6th February 1821 and 25th March 1833 : and distinguishing such Bequests as have any special Conditions annexed to them, and stating how far such Conditions have been complied with. (3.)— A GENERAL ACCOUNT of all Sums paid on account of the Printing of the Museum Catalogues and other Museum Publications, from 16th February 1821 to 25th March 1833 inclusive ; stating the Cost of each Publication, and the Sums paid to the Editor and Engraver, or for otherwise illustrating such Work, and to the Printer and Bookbinder, and to whom paid ; with an Account of the Number of Copies printed, and the disposal of the same ; distinguishing the Copies printed on Vellum, and their appropriation. (4.)— A GENERAL ACCOUNT of the Number of Volumes of Printed Books contained in the Library of the British Museum, in the years 1821 and 1832 respectively, as nearly as the same can be ascertained, and of the Additions in each year since 1821 ; with an Account of the Number of Volumes sold or otherwise disposed of, stating whether such Sale was by Private Auction, or otherwise ; also, a similar Account with respect to the Manuscripts. (5.)— AN ANNUAL ACCOUNT, from 16th February 1821 to the 25th March 1833, of the Numbe'^ of Librarians, Officers and other Persons employed in the British Museum, with the Amoun of their respective Salaries, Extra Service Money, Gratuities and Perquisites, and any other Sum or Sums of Money received by them beyond their stated Salaries, or of any Emolument derived from other Public Sources, Civil or Ecclesiastical ; with an Account, stating the nature and extent of the Service and Attendance of each Officer, and also the nature and extent of the Services for which Extra Service Money may have been paid ; and the nature and extent of the accommodation afforded' to each Officer in the way of Lodging, &c. A COPY of all Statutes, Rules and Bye-Laws of the Trustees of the British Museum now in force. (6.)- (7.)— AN ACCOUNT of all Sums paid by the Board of Works on account of the British Museum, specifying the purposes for which paid ; together with an Estimate of any Building or Buildings proposed to be erected by the Board of Works for the purposes of the British Museum, according to the Plan of Sir Robert Smirke. 479. ZZ3 358 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE (1.)— ACCOUNT OF MONEY RECEIVED AND EXPENDED FOR SUMS of MoWE-e Received, - ■ " r — » YEARS ending/ 25 March 1821. 25 March 1822. 25 March 1823. (9 Months.) ' Christmas 1823. Christmas 1824. Christmas 1825. £. «. d. £. s. d. £. s. d. £. s. d. £. s. d. £. .«. d. Parliamentary Grant 10,007 14 4 8,479 - - 9.425 13 - 8,766 - - 4,847 - - 15,416 - - Ditto - - Special - . . . . 7,500 - - Dividends on Stock 900 - - goo - - 900 - - 900 - - goo - - goo - - Rents . _ ■ * . . . Sale of Books ... . . - - . - - Sale of Prints ... — — — — — — Sale of Synopsis, and other'\ Museum Publications -J 329 1 1 337 16 10 557 16 1 148 7 1 112 6 6 i6o 14 6 Additional Receipts ; viz- Decayed Trees 5 - - — — — — — Profit on Exchequer Bills - 76 4 2 67 13 4 63 13 4 43 15 - 190 5 10 - SUMS of Money Expended, Salaries and Extra Service! Money to the OflScers -J Salaries and Extra Service' Money to Attendants and Servants • - - -, Lighting and Warming the 1 Museum - . - -J On objects of Literature,"! Science, Fine Arts, &c. -J Book-binding _ . . Printing (exclusive of Fac- simile of Alexandr. MS.) - Stationery - - - . Additional Payments ; viz. Rent and Taxes, Repairs" and Fittings, Freight, Expense of Alexandrian Fac-Simile, Drawings and Engravings for Gallery of Antiquities, Classed Ca- talogue, Law Expenses, &c. - - - 3,771 5 - 1,626 14 6 421 9 - 1,508 12 9 547 2 6 50 12 - 183 13 - 2,590 3,570 -- - 1,747 10 6 421 12 9 721 14 - 453 7 6 144 10 6 2,699 10 5 3,712 6 - 1,732 8 5 382 9 6 511 6 6 385 5 - 14 1 - 145 4 - 2,302 6 4 2,452 10 - 1,300 7 11 335 15 - 3,125 19 3 183 9 - 11 4 6 77 14 6 1,304 11 -1 3,793 19 4 2,019 -^ 10 396 2 6 995 12 10 460 14 3 150 4 6 2,022 12 7 J 4,622 6 9 2,661 14 10 447 2 - 8,755 4 7 657 16 6 109 5 - 297 3 6 2,578 13 10 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 359 - THE BRITISH MUSEUM, from 25 March 1820 to 25 March 1833. from 25 March 1820 to 25 March 1833; Cbiistmas 1826. Christmas 1827. Christmas 1828. Christmas 1829. Christmas 1830. Christmas 1831. Christmas 1832. 3 Months to 25 March 1833. £. s. d. 13,992 - ' 900 - - 307 15 - 58 13 9 £. s. d. 18,877 - ' 900 - - • 98 10 ™ £. a. d. 16,649 - - goo - - 217 6 7 £. s. d. 19,899 - - 900 - - 29 7 4 £. *. d. i6,J43 - - 900 - - 70 12 - £. s. d. 14,451 - - 1,289 15 8 28 11 - *956 - 3 4 6 10 £. ». d. 16,922 r- - i,«89 15 8 23 11 10 *i,o87 17 - 148 15 4 34 8 6 £. *. d. 194 17 10 * Transferred to the Royal Society, in part payment for the Arundel Collection of MSS. - - - - from 25 March 1820 to 25 March 1833. 4,546 7 1 2,883 1 6 448 3 6 1,911 9 4 847 9 6 197 19 - 3,606 • 6 9 4,304 iJ 4 3,340 17 7 557 18 6 1,295 14 IQ 839 9 - 136 10 - 197 13 6 3;931 14 5i 5,266 3 8 3,647 10 - 720 13 6 1,012 - 11 619 10 - 13 2 - 243 7 6 4,743 2 ij 5,845 1,7 6 3,673 15 7 578 - - 2,254 3 2 717 19 6 132 - - 188 - 6 6,845 1 7 5,789 1 10 3,822 3 8 594 3 6 2,783 3 11 933 14 7 154 1 6 169 2 5 3,210 12 10 5,910 14 5 3,856 19 41 530 7 6 2,817 3 ,9t 794 14 3 35 7 6 138 11 5 a,6oo 11 6J 5,932 5 5 3,992 18 4 512 16 4 4,522 1 ut 711 7 - 14-6 181 1 - 2,705 13 2 2,055 - - 1,059 3 4 37 12 9 430' 6 7 149 4 - 36 6 6 428 14 8 f Exclusive of the Sums received for the Sale of Duplicate Books transferreii to the Royal Society. z Zd. 360 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No, 3. 2. Account of Bequests, Donations and Contri- butions. (2.)— BEQUESTS, DONATIONS AND CONTRIBUTIONS. AN ACCOUNT of all Bequests, Donations and Contributions above the value of £.100, so far as the same can be estimated, made to The British Museum, between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833; distinguishing such Bequests as have any Special Conditions annexed to them, and stating how far such Conditions have been complied with. DATE, 1821 1822 1823 1824 1825 1826 1827 DESCRIPTION OF GIFT. A painted Sarcophagus of Stone, discovered in a Tomb at Thebes. A variety of Specimens of Rocks and other objects of Natural History, collected in the Expedition to the Polar Regions. A miniature Portrait of John, first Lord Henniker, set with diamonds. The valuable Library formed by His Majesty King George the Third, to the number of more than Seventy thousand Volumes, comprising a judicious selection of the best Authors in all departments of Literature and Science, particularly in History ; and including a rich collection of the earliest and rarest productions of the press ; together with an extensive series of Maps, Plans and Drawings, chiefly illus- trative of the Topography of the British Domi- nions. A Statue of Shakespear, by Roubillac ... A very valuable Collection of Pictures; sixteen in number. Numerous Specimens of Rocks, collected by Capt. Parry during his last voyage to the Polar Seas. An extraordinary rich and well selected Cabinet of Greek Coins, consisting of Five thousand two hun- dred and five Pieces, embracing some of the rarest and choicest specimens of ancient medallic art ; a collection of One hundred and eleven ancient Gems ; a valuable and extensive series of ancient Bronzes, Seven hundred and ninety-eight in number; Eight ancient Busts, in Marble ; and Nine Volumes con- taining Eleven hundred and twenty Drawings by early Masters ; and an alto relievo Carving in yellow Stone, by Albert Diirer. A Collection of Works on Italian History and Topo- graphy, consisting of nearly Two thousand Vo- lumes. The Persepolitan Marbles, collected by Sir Gore Ouseley during his embassy to the Court of Persia. A very valuable Cabinet of Coins and Medals both ancient and modern, exceeding Fifteen thousand five hundred in number, A gilt Colossal Figure of Gaudma, a Burmese Deity, from Rangoon ; with a large Impression of the Foot of the same deity. A Picture by Sir Joshua Reynolds, known as " The Captive Lord." A mass of Meteoric Iron from Otumpa in South Ame- rica, weighing nearly thirteen hundred weight. A large Collection of Foreign and English Insects The Watering Place ; a Landscape by Gainsbo- rough. The Banishment of Cleombrotus by Laonidas ; a Pic- ture by West. DONOR. The, Earl of Bel- more. The Lords Com- missioners of the Admiralty. The late John, se- cond Lord Hen- niker. His Majesty King George IV. The late David Garrick, Esq. The late Sir John Beaumont, Bart. The Lords Com- missioners of the Admiralty. The late Richard Payne Knight, Esq. Sir Richard Colt Hoare, Baronet, Sir Gore Ouseley His Majesty King George IV. Captain Marryat, K. N. The Rev. William Long, Canon of Windsor. Woodbine Parish, Esq. Dr. Leach - The Lord Farnbo- rough. William Wilkins, Esq. REMARKS. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 361 DATE. 1827 1828 1829 1830 1831 DESCRIPTION OF GIFT. 479. A very beautiful illuminated Manuscript of Ecclesi- astical Services and Prayers, made by order of the Widow of the Duke de Croy and D'Arschott, in 1601. A considerable Collection of Books and Manuscripts in the Arabic,, Persian and other Oriental Lan- guages. Collections for a General History of Derbyshire, with numerous Charters and other Documents relating to the same county. A considerable addition to the Collection of Italian History and Topography formerly given by Sir Richard Colt Hoare, Bart. A Collection of Manuscripts and Drawings by the Rev. Thomas Kerrich, of Magdalen College, Cam- bridge, and Mr. Essex, chiefly illustrative of Gothic Architecture in England. A Gold SnufF Box set with Diamonds, and orna- mented with a miniature Portrait of the Emperor Napoleon. Twenty -two Volumes in folio and quarto, containing the Correspondence of English Ministers, either at home or abroad, with George Stepney, Esq. Envoy to several of the European States, between the years 1690 and 1707. — A Volume of original Let- ters from Andrew Newport, Esq. and others, 1689- 1692.— The original Autograph of Lord Herbert of Cherbury's celebrated Treatise " De Veritate ;" and other Manuscripts. A Collection of original Letters and Papers, consist- ing of the Correspondence of the Count Joseph de , Puisaye, relative to the affairs of the French Royal- ists, between 1793 and 1825; in One hundred and seventeen Volumes. Sixty-seven Volumes of Manuscripts, and ninety-six Charters. — £. 7,000 to be invested in the Three per cent. Consols, and £. 5,000 sterling ; and also Real Estates in Great Britain, producing about £. 25 a year. A splendid Collection of Minerals from the Hartz Mountains. Manuscript Collections for a General History of Suf- folk, in Forty-one folio Volumes. Antiquities of Mexico, comprising Fac-similes of ancient Mexican Paintings and Hieroglyphics ; to- gether with the Monuments of N'ew Spain, by M, Dupaix : The whole illustrated by many valuable inedited Manuscripts, by Augustine Aglio. Seven Volumes, folio ; London 1 830 : a magnificent Copy, printed on Vellum, with coloured Plates, superbly bound in red morocco. Fac-simile Drawings of ancient Mexican Paintings or Hieroglyphics preserved in the Library of the Institute at Bologna, in the Vatican Library, in the Royal Library of Dresden, in tlie Borgian Museum at Rome, in the Imperial Library of Vienna, and in the Royal Library of Berlin; copied by M. Au- gustin Aglio, for the Engravings in Viscount Kings- borough's " Mexican Antiquities ;" in Six quarto Portfolios. I The Papers of the late Archdeacon Coxe, being chiefly materials for his Literary Works; in Two hundred and six Volumes. The large Collection of Architectural and other Casts in Plaster, the property of the late Sir Thomas Lawrence. A very valuable Collection of Thirty-five Pictures, chiefly by early Masters. 3 A DONOR. Adam Askew, Esq. The late Joseph Fowler Hiill, Esq. The late Adam Wolley, Esq. Sir Richard Colt Hoare, Baronet. ThelateRev.Thos. Kerrich. The late Hon. Mrs. Damer. W. R. Stokes, Esq. The late Count Joseph de Puisaye. The late Francis Henry, Earl of Bridge water. His Majesty King George IV. Hudson Gurney, Esq. M.P. Viscount Kingsbo- rough. Viscount Kingsbo- rough. The Rev. Coxe. George The Royal Aca- demy. The late Rev. William Holwell Carr. REMARKS. Appendix, No. 3 2. Account of Bequest No conditions. ?°?='t'ons and Contri butions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. Directions of the Will com- plied with. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. Directions of the Will com- plied with. No conditions; No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions. No conditions.- No conditions. Directions of the Will com- plied with. 362 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE (3.)— SUMS PAID ON ACCOUNT OF SUMS paid on Account of the Publication of The Gallery of Antiquities, - Years ending Ditto - Ditto - (Nine Months) ending Years ending Ditto Ditto Ditto - £. s. d. 25 March 1821 - ^Nil.- „ 1822 - .- 331 5 - 1823 - 309 9 - Christmas i8ag - 215 5 - „ 1824 ■- 362 5 - 1825 -' 511 16 6 „ 1826 - - 1,528 14 6 1827 - 1,303 7 5 v ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of between 16 February 1821 and YEAKS ending - 25 March 1821. 25 March 1822. 25 March 1823. Artists, for Drawing, Engraving,"! and Colouring - -/ nil. - - Messrs. W. Bromley, F. Engleheart, — Port- bury, C. Heath, J. T. Wedgewood, J. Mitchell, H. Moses, Geo. Corbould, £.328. 13. - - Messrs. G. Cooke, C. Heath, H. Moses, W. Fin- den, — Havell, £.231- 5- Writing Engravers Paper for Engravings Copper-plate Printers Paper for Printing Printers . . - - nil, nil. - . nil. - - nil. nil. nil. |Me^^^^s.Tipper|£_^_ 12. nil. nil. nil. — Davies, £.6. 16. 6. - - £, 23. 9. - £.47. 18. 6. |Me^s^s.^Tipper|£_^3_g_ nil. Bookbinder - - - - nil. nil. nil. iEditor nil. nil. nil. Christmas 1827. Christmas 1828. Christmas 1829. Christmas 1830. - -H. Corbould,C, Heath, R. Newton, W. Bromley, W. Finjlen, J. H, Watt, -- Le Keux, W. Great- batch, C. Rolls, B. P. Gib- bon, F. Ransom, £.1,017. 2. -- J.H.Watt,H.Corbould, F. Ransom, A. Freebairn, W. Bromley, R, Newton, W. Greatbatch, H. Moses, £.592. 18. - - W, Greatbatch, H. Cor- bould, J. H. Watt, E. Tur- rell, C. Heath, H. Moses, £.460. 19. - - H. Corbould, — Hors- burgh, H. Moses, W. D. Taylor, W. Chevalier, F. Engleheart, £.421, 1. *' _ Davies, £. 5. 8. - nil. — Davies, £. 7. 2. 6. — Davies, £. 2. 5. - nil. 7 nil. nil. nil. — Dixon, £.198. 9. nil. — Dixon, £. 249. - — Dixon, £.103. 17. ■ Smith & Co. £.49. 13. 9. nil. nil. nil. W.Nicol, £,33. 14-8. . nil. nil. W. Nicol, £.50. 12. nil. nil. nil. C. Tuckett, £. 74. 4. 3, - - - nil. nil. nil. nil. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM, MUSEUM PPBLICATIONS, from 16 Feb. 1820 to 25 March 1833. Vols. V. VI. VII. VIII. and IX. from 16 Feb. 1821 to 25 March 1833. 363 t £. s. d. Years ending - Christmas 1828 - 592 18 - Ditto - - „ 1829 . 717 1 6 Ditto - - 1830 - 651 19 9 Ditto - - „ 1831 - 815 - 6 Ditto - - 1832 - 559 17 - ( Three Months) ending - 25 March 1833 Total - - - - £. 126 - - 8,024 18 8 the Publication of The Gallery of Antiquities, Vols. V. VI. VII. VIII. and IX. 25 March 1833, were distributed. (9 Months) Christmas 1823. Christmas 1824. Christmas 1825. Christmas 1826. - - H. Corbould, — Rom- ney, W. Finden. £.315. 5. - - H. Corbould, H. Free- bairn, J. H. Watt. £.362. 5- - - G. Corbould, H. Cor- bould, R. Newton, W. Bromley, £.511. 16. 6. - - H. Corbould, — Port- bury, H. Moses, W. Brom- ley, C. Heath, A. Duncan, J. H. Watt, G. Cooke, G. Corbould, G. Romney, F. Engleheart, F. Ransom, G. T. Doo, E. F. Finden. £.1,454. 17. • .* nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. - . nil, nil. - - nil. - nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. nil. C. Tuckett, £.73. 17.6. - nil. nil. nil. nil. Christmas 1831. Christmas 1832. (3 Months) 25 March 1833. - - H. Corbould, G. Cor- bould, J. H,Watt,«. Mo- ses, G. T. Doo, W. Brom- ley, A. Freebairii, E. Fin- den, W. Taylor, £.761. 2. - - E. Finden, G. Corbould, — Le Keux, H. Moses, R". Newton, H. Corbould, A. Warren, W. Bromley, £.459- 17- - - H. Corbould, F. Bacon, H. Moses, S. Davenport, £.126. ArtistSjfor Drawing,Engraving, f' and Colouring. nil. nil., - nil. Writing Engravers. nil. nil. nil. Paper for Engravings. nil. nil. nil. - Copper-plate Printers. Lepard&Smitb,£,53. i8. 6. nil. nil. nil. nil. «il. Paper for Printing. Printers. nil. nil. nil. Bookbinder. nil. C. R. Cockerell, £. 100. - nil. • Editor. 479. 3 A 2 364 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE ppendiK, No. 3. ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Publication of The Gallery of Antiquities, c ~~7^- ■ Vols V VI VII VIII. and IX.* which were printed, and the Manner in which they have been Expense of Printing *ois. v. t i. »ii. » "'• alogues and other blicatioas. disposed of. Vol. V. Printed -"■".' Distributed according to the provi- sions of the Copyright Act, and as Presents, arid retained for the use of the Library and the Mu- seum . - - - - Sold ------ - 1,000 91 96 Remain in Stock 187 813 Vol. VI. Printed - - - - 7 " I'^OO Distributed according to the provi- sions of the Copyright Act, and I as Presents, and retained for the "• 8a use of the Library and the Mu- seum '''''' a Sold - - - - 36 Remain in Stock iiB 882 * Vols. VII. VIII. and IX. have not yet been printed. SUMS paid on Account of the PubUcation of the Facsimile of the Alexandrian MS. from 16th February 1821 to 25th March 1833. Years ending - Diito Ditto Nine Months ending Years ending - Ditto Ditto Ditto Ditto Ditto Ditto Ditto Ditto Ditto 25 March 1821 „ 1822 1823 Christmas 1823 „ 1824 „ 1825 „ 1826 1827 „ 1828 „ 1829 1830 1831 „ 1832 25 March 1833 Total £. «. d. . nU. - 1,033 16 3 - 417 3 - - 410 3 6 - 433 12 b _ nil. • nil. _ 12 10 - - 460 18 6 « nil. , nil. nil. - nil. - 4 4 — £. 2,772 7 9 ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of the Fac-simile of the Alexandrian MS. between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833, were distributed. Printer - Engraver Editor - Transcriber - Bookbinder YEAKS ending 25 March 1822. 25 March 1823. (9 Months) Christmas 1823. Taylor and Co. ... J. Basire Rev. H. H. Baber - - ^ - Rev. J. Mentor - - - B. Pippin; after 1826, C.Tuckett £. s. d. 362 11 3 . nil. - 588 - - 50 - _ 33 5 - £. s. d. 287 4 - - nil. .. 115 10 - - nil., - 14 9 - £. S. d. «90 8 6 . nil. - 115 10 - - nil. - 4 5- * Christmas 18:24. Christmas 1827. Christmas 1828. (3 Months) 25 March ia33. TOTALS. Printer. ' Engraver, Editor. ' Tra'nscriber. Bookbinder. *. £. s. d. 92 2 6 nil. 298 - - nil. 4a 10 - £. S. d. nil. - nil. - - nil. - - ' nil. - 12 10 - £. s. d. 126 5 6 19 13 - 262 10 - - nil. - 52 10 - £. s. d. - nil. - - nil. - nil. - - nil. - 4 4- £. s. d. 1,159 11 9 19 13 - 1,379 10 - 50 - - 163 13 - SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 365 ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Fac and the Manner in which t Tom. I Paks I. Printed Distributed according to the provisions of the"! Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re-|>.107 tained for the use of the Library - -J Sold ---....-g ;} Remain in Stock - . . 'Tom, I Pars IL Printed - - -. - Distributed according to the provisions of the"! Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re-^ 94 tained for the use of the Library Sold . - - ■ 7 Remain in Stock _ - - . - Tom. II.— Pars I. Printed -------- Distributed according to the provisions of the"! Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re- > 74 tained for the use of the Library - -J Sold - - - 3 Remain in Stock - - - - - Tom. II.— Pars IL Printed -------- Distributed according to the provisions of the"! Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re- V 74 tained for the use of the Library - -J Sold 3 Remain in Stock - - . - - Tom. III. Printed Distributed according to the provisions of the! Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re-> 43 tained for the use of the Library - -J ■Sold - 4 Remain in Stock - - . . - 250 116 134 250 101 134 250 77 173 250 77 Simile of The Alexandrian MS, which were printed, hey have been disposed of. NoTffi. — Pars I. Printed 250 Distributed according to the provisions of the") Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re- S-lo? tained for the use of the Library - -j Sold - - - 9 116 Remain in Stock - - - - - 134 NoT^. — Pars II. Printed -------- 250 Distributed according to the provisions of the"! Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re- > 94 tained for the use of the Library - -J Sold X- - 7 101 Remain in Stock - - - - - 149 NOTiE.— Pars III. Printed - - - - - \ - - - i^o Distributed according to the provisions of the"! Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re- > 74 tained for the use of the Library - -J Sold 3 77 Remain in Stock - - - - -,173 173 250 47 203 Noxi. — Pars IV, Printed ------. Distributed according to the provisions of the Copyright Act, and as Presents, and re^ tained for the use of the Library Sold Remain in Stock 43 250 47 203 SUMS paid on Account of the Publication of the Outlines of Classification of a Library, [Not printed for Sale,] , between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833. Year ending Christmas 1825 £.63. 14. 6. ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of the Publication of the Outlines of Classification of a Library, between i6tlj February 1821 and 25th March 1833, were distributed. Year ending Christmas 1825. ' Printer Bookbinder - George Woodfall B. Pipping - £.- s. d, 50 12 - 13 2 6 ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Outlises of Classification of a Library which were printed, and the Manner in which they have been disposed of. 105 Copies. 65 Printed - - - - - - - -- Distributed as Presents, and retained for the use of the Library Remain 40 479. 3 A3 3(56 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 3. SUMS paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Maps and Topographical Peints and Drawings in the Library of H. M. King George IV. between l6th February 1821 and Expense of Printing 25th March « 83.3. italcgues and other iblications Years ending Christmas 1829 Ditto - 1830 Total - - £. s. d. 782 10 3 25 9 - £. 807 19 3 ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Maps and Topographical Prints and Drawings in the Library of H. M. King George IV., between 16th February 182a and 2,5th March 1833, were distributed.3 Paper - Printing Bookbinder - Years ending George Woodfall C. Tuckett - Christmas 1829. Christmas 1830 £. S. d. 367 17 6 385 17 9 28 15- - £. s. d. nil. - nil. - 25 9 - TOTAL. £. s. d. 367 17 6 38$ 17 9 54 4 - ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Catalogue of Maps and Topographical Prints and Drawings in the Library of H. M. King George IV., which were printed, and the Manner in which they have been disposed of. Printed -- - --.._.. 1763 Distributed according to the Provisions of the Copyright Act, and as"l „ Presents, and retained for the use of the Library and the Museum -J "^ Sbld ... - . 11 319 Remain in Stock 344 SUMS paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Anglo-Gallic Coins, between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833. Years ending Christmas 1826 Ditto - 1827 Total . £. s. d. 6 6- 169 16 10 £. 176 2 10 ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Anglo-Gallic Coins, between 16th February 1821 and 25th March iSs"? were distributed. Years ending /H. Corbould, 1 \ H. Moses f ■ Christmas 1826. Smith & Co. W. Nicol - C. Tuckett - Christmas 1827. TOTAL Artists, for Drawing and Engraving - Paper - Printer Bookbinder - £. s. d. 6 6- - nil. - - nil. - - nil. - £. s. d. - nil. . 49 i8 9 91 13 4 28.4 9 £. *. d. '66- 49 18 9 SI 13 4 '28 4 9 ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Catalogue of Anglo-Gallic Coins which were printed, and the Manner in which tbey have been disposed of. ' Printed - Distributed according to the Provisions of the Copyright Act, 3nd asl Sold istnbuted accortnng to tne rrovisions ot the Copyright Act, 3nd asT Presents, and retained for the use of the Library and the Museum - I ^^ 250 - 37 .128 Remain in Stock 122 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 367 SUMS paid on Account of the Publication of Mr. R. P. Knight's Catalogue of his Cox-lection Appendix, No. 3 of Gr^ek Coins, between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833. Year finding Christmas 1829 Ditto - 1 830 Total - £. s. d. 126 8 ~ 156 2 9 - £. 282 10 9 3. Expense of Printin Catalogues and other Publications. ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of the Publication of Mr.il. P. Knight's Catalog pe of his Collection of Greek Coins, between 16th February 1821 and 2-5th March 1833, were distributed. Years ending Christmas 1829. " - " . " Christmas 1830. TOTALS. £. s. d. £. S. d. £. s. d. Paper Lepard&Co. - 26 8 - JLepard & Co. - 75 12 - 102 - - Printer W. Nicol 100 - - W. Nicol - 52 1 6 152 1 6 Bookbinder - - nil. - C. Tuckett 28 9, 3 28 9 3 ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Catalogue of Mr. R. P.' Knight's Collection of Greek Coins, which were printed, and the Manner in which they have been disposed of. Printed ----------- -- 250 Distributed according to the Provisions of the Copyright Act, and as! „ Presents, and retained for the use of the Library and the Museum -J Sold ... - 2 84 Remain in Stock 166 SUMS paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Donations for 1828, between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833. £. s. d. Year ending Christmas 1830 - - - Ditto - 1831 - - . - £. Total 31 17 - ^42- 35 19 - ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Donations for 1828, between. 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833, were distributed. Years ending George Woodfall C. Tuckett Christmas 1830. Christmas 1831. TOTALS. Printer . - - Bookbinder £. s. d. 23 8 - • 8 9 - £. s. d. - nil. - 42- £. *. d. 23 8 - 12 11 - ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Catalogue of Donations for 1828, which were printed, and the Manner in wiwch they have been disposed of. Printed 251 Copies. Distributed as Presents, and retained for the use of the Library - - 108 Remain - - - 143 479. 3 A 4 368 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 3. 3. Expense of Printing Catalogues and other Publications. SUMS paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Donations for 1829, between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833, Year ending Christmas 1831 ■ £.26 7 - ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Donations for 1829, between i6th February 1821 and 25th March 1833, were distributed. £. s. d. Year ending J Christmas 1831.1 Printer - Bookbinder George Woodfall C. Tuckett 13 12 - 12 15 - ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Catalogue of Donations for 1829, which were printed, and the Manner in which they have been disposed of. / Printed 255 Copies. Distributed as Presents, and retained for the use of the Library - - 155 Remain 100 SUMS paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Donations for 1830, between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833. Year ending Christmas 1831 f . 30 7 6 ACCOUNT showing the Manner in which the several Sums paid on Account of the Publication of the Catalogue of Donations for 1830, between 16th February 1821 and 25th March 1833, were distributed. £. s. d. Year ending J Christmas 1831. j Printer Bookbinder George Woodfall C. Tuckett 17 17 6 12 10 - ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Catalogue of Donations for 1830, which were printed, and the Manner in which they have been disposed of. Printed ---------- Distributed as Presents, and retained for the use of the Library Remain - 250 Copies. 106 144 ACCOUNT showing the Number of Copies of the Synopsis of the British Museum, which have been printed, and the Manner in which they have been disposed of, from 16th February 1821 to 25th March 1833. Thirteen Editions or Impressions of the Synopsis have been printed, comprising 39,290 copies ; of which, almost the entire number have been sold. The total Cost of Printing, &c. appears to be about The total Receipts, about - - . . £• 2,539. £• 3,898. No Copies of any Museum Publications have been printed on Vellum at the Public Expense. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 369 (4.)--MANUSCRIPTS AND CHARTERS AND PRINTED BOOKS. Appendix, No. 3. . — — 4. Printed Books and MSS. in the Museum, and Number of ACCOUNT showing the Number of Vols, of MSS. contained in the Libkahy of the British Volumes sold. Museum in the Years 1821 and 1832 respectively, and of the Additions in each Year since 1821. - 1821 MSS. CHARTERS, &e. Added in - - 1822 MSS. CHARTERS, &c. Total in - 17,937 16,423 4 none. Ditto - 1823 19 none. Ditto - 1832 21,604 19,093 Ditto - 1824 8 none. Ditto - 1825 817 none. t Ditto - 1826 149 none. Ditto - 1827 - 5 none. Ditto - 1828 482 ■ 1,007 Ditto - 1829 413 937 Ditto - 1830 86 82 Ditto - 1831 1,418 594 « ' Ditto - 1832 266 50 ACCOUNT showing the Number of Vols, of Printed Books, so nearly as the same can ha ascertained, contained in the Library of the British Museum in the Years 1821 and 1832 respectively, and of the Additions in each Year since 1821. - 1821 PRINTED BOOKS. Added in 1822 PRINTED BOOKS. Total in 115,925 1,208 Ditto - 1823 1,163 Ditto - - 1832 218,957 Ditto - 1824 1,895 Ditto - 1825 4,829 ^' Ditto - 1826 2,764 Ditto - 1827 16,310 Ditto - 1828 73,979 Ditto - 1829 2,981 Ditto - 1830 3,941 Ditto - 1831 4,276 Ditto - 1832 4,096 ACCOUNT showing the Number of Vols, of Printed Books * sold, or otherwise disposed of, from the Library of the British 'Museum, between the Years 1820 and 1833, stating whether such Sale was by Private Auction or otherwise. DATE. NUMBER OF VOLUMES- ■ REMARKS. 1830 2,072 Duplicates Transferred to the Library of the Royal Society of London, in exchange for the Arundel Collection of MSS. 1831 5,639 Ditto - Sold by Public Auction by Messrs. Sotheby & Son. 1832 6,699 Ditto - Ditto - - - ditto - - - ditto. * No MSS. received into the Collections of the British Museum have at any time been sold, or otherwise disposed of. 479. 3 B 370 APPENDIX TO EEPORT FROM THE (5.)— OFFICERS EMPLOYED IN ANNUAL ACCOUNT of the Number of Officeri? emploied in the British Museum, RECEIPTS IN THE YEARS ENDING NAME OFFICE. / Of the present Officer. '25 March 1821. 25 March 1822. 25 March 1823. (9 Months) Christmas 18SS Christmas 1824. £. s. d. £. S. d. £. S. d. £. s. d. £. s. d. Principal Librarian Sir Henry Ellis 500 - - 500 - - 500 - - 375 - - 500 - - Keeper oJ MSS. - Rev. J. Forshall 350 - - 350 - - 350 225 - - 350 - - Assistant Keeper of MSS. Sir Frederic Madden 120 - - 120 - - 120 - - 90 - - 115 1 - Keeper of Printed Books Rev. H. H. Baber - 350 350 - -- 350 - - 225 - - 350 - - Assistant Keeper - Rev. H. F. Cary 270 - - 270 - - 270 - - 165 - - 270 - - Additional Assistant Keeper - Antonio Panizzi, Esq. 243 15 - 275 - - 173 9 - 150 - - 280 15 - Keeper of Printed Booics N. Carlisle, Esq. - - - . . Attached to the Royal Li- ^ brary for eighteen years, previously to its removal to the Museum. - Assistant Keeper - - - W. Armstrong, Esq. - - - - . - Attached to the Royal Li- brary for forty-five years, previously to its removal to the Museum. Assistant Keeper - J. H. Glover, Esq. - • - - - . . Attached to the Royal Li- brary for eighteen years, previously to its removal to the Museum. REMARKS. (') Principal Librarian. — Joseph Planta, Esq. was Principal Librarian until December 1827:' since that time Sir Henry Ellis. Has the general custody of the Museum, and is to take care that the duties assigned to the other Officers and Servants are properly performed. Is to grant all admissions to the Reading Room, and to conduct the correspondence relating t^ it. Has apartments in the Museum, consisting of eleven rooms in which he is bound to reside ; and an allowance of Stationery to the amount of about £. 5 a year. During the period specified in the Order of The House, Sir Henry Ellis has derived no emolument from any other public source. Is also Expenditor, for which Office he receives no remuneration. (^) Keeper of AfSS.— Henry Ellis, Esq. until December 1827 : since that time, the Rev. J. Forshall. Mr. Forshall has the custody and arrangement of the MSS. and Charters ; gives five days in every week to the service of the Museum : has apartments, consisting of nine rooms, in which he is bound to reside ; has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £.53 year; is entitled, as Keeper of the MSS., to certain Fees when he produces any document as evidence in a Court of Justice : these Fees, on an average of the last five years, do not exceed £. 5 a year. He is also entitled, under the will of the late Dr. Birch, to a yearly stipend of £. 5. 4. 7. Has at no time derived any other emolument from pubhc sources. Is also Secretary. (=) Assistant Keeper of MSS — The Rev. J. Forshall until December 1827 = since January 1828, Sir Frederic Madden Sir F. Madden assists in the care and arrangement of the MSS. and Charters ; gives five days in eyery week to the service of the Museum ; has an allowance of Stationery to the amount of about £. 5 a year. Being the Junior Assistant Librarian, is not entitled to apartments^ but occupies those belonging to the next Senior Librarian, which consist of five rooms. Since his appointment to the Museum, has derived no emolument from other public sources. C) Keeper of Printed Booh.—U&s the custody and arrangement of the Printed Books ; gives five days in every w6ek to the service of the Museum ; has apartments, consisting of nine rooms, in which he is bound to reside; has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £. 5 a year. Is entitled to certain Fees, when he produ Book in a Court of Justice: these Fees, on an average of the last twelve years, do not exceed £.5 a year. Is duces any also entitled, under the will of the late Dr. Birch, to a yearly stipend of £."5. 4! 7. During" the "period Tckded in this account, has denved no emolument from other public sources, except the sums specified in the Return made ISELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 371 THE BRITISH MUSEUM. with the Amount of their respective Salaries, &c. ; from 25 March 1820 to 25 March 1833. RECEIPTS IN THE YEARS ENDING ' Christmas , 1885. £. s. d. 500 - - 350 249 16 - 425 - - 270 - - 290 17 3 Christmas 1826. £. «. d. 500 - - 350 - - 420 - - 425 - - 226 4 6 275 Cbiistmas 1827. Christmas 1828. £. s. d. 464 - 10 350 - - 420 - - 425 - - 158 18 .6 300 19 - £. s. d. 494 10 1 520 14 8 105 6 5 425 345 292 6 2 50 30 - - 30 Christmas 1829. £. S. d 500 - - 425 - - 236 1 5 425 345 - - 295 3 10 200 - - i86 6 11 319 - 9 Christmas 1830. £. S. d. 500 - - 425 _ - 345 - - 425 - - 345 - - 29315 - 200 - - 195 - - 345 - Christmas 1831. £. S. d. 500 - - 425 - - 345 - ' 425 - - 345 - - 267 19 10 200 - - 195 345 - - Christmas 1832. £. *. d. 500 - - 425 - - 345 - - 425 - - 345 ■- - 275 - - 200 - - (3 Months) 25 March 1833. 195 - - 345 £. s. d. 125 - -O 162 10 -0 142 10 -O 162 10 -C) 142 10 -C) 87 10 -O 50 - -o 67 10 -O 142 10 -f) (continued) REMARKS. made to The House of the expenses of publishing the Fac-Simile of the Alexandrian MSS. Holds the Living of Streatham-cum-Thetford, County Cambridge, conferred upon him by the Crown for the services rendered to Biblical Literature by the editing of the Alexandrian MSS. The gross value of the Living is about £. goo per annum, but Mr. Baber states that he does not clear more than one-third of this sum. (') Assistant Keeper. — The Rev. J. Bean-until May 1826; since June 1826, the Rev. H. F. Gary. Mr. Gary assists in the care and arrangement of the Printed Books ; gives five days in every week to the service of the Museum ; has apartments, consisting of five rooms ; and an allowance of Stationery to the amount of about £. 5 a year. Derives no emolument from other public sources. Has a small Living, which does not produce to Mr. Gary more than £.100 a year. (') Additional Assistant Keeper Dr.-Noehden until 1833 ; in that year, Dr. Bliss; subsequently F. A. Walter, Esq. ; and in 1831 Antonio Panizzi, Esq. Mr. Panizzi assists in the care and arrangement of the Printed Books; gives six days in every week to the service of the Museum. Has no apartments. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £. 5 a year. ' Has no other emolument or perquisite whatever. r) Keeper qfrPrinied JSooA*.— Assists in the care and arrangement of the Printed Books; gives two days in ev.ery week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £.53 year. Has no apartments, or other emolument or perquisite whatever from the Museum. Was Secretary to the Commis- sioners of Charities, at a salary of £.500 a year, when appointed to the Museum in 1828. This appointment terminated in 1831. Has since been appointed one of the Commissioners, at a salary of £. 800 a year. The Commission was to continue for two years, and thence to the then next Session of Parliament. (8) Assistant Keeper.— Assists in the care and arrangement of the Printed Books ; gives three days in every week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £.5 a year. Has no apart- ments, nor any other emolument or perquisite whatever. (») Assistant Keeper Assists in the care and arrangement of the Printed Books ; gives five days in every week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £. 5 a year. Has no apartments, nor any other emolument or perquisite whatever. • 479. 3 B 2 372 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE NAME Of the present OfBcer. RECEIPTS IN THE YEARS ENDING - - - r 1 1 c E. r 25 Marcli 1823. 25 March 1822. 25 March 1823. (9 Months) Christmas 1823. Christmaa 1824. * £. *. d. £. *. d. fi. S. d. £. s. d. £. *. d. Keeper of Natural History - Charles Kb'nig, Esq. - 425 - - 425 - - 425 - _ 262 10 - 425 Assistant Keeper - - - J. G. Children, Esq. - 302 10 - 120 - - 345 - - 202 10 - 345 Keeper of Sir Joseph Banks'sT Botanical Collection, and having the charge of them for many years previously [ to their removal to the Museum - - "J Robert Brown, Esq. - / \ - - Assistant - - Mr. J. J. Bennett - - - - Keeper of Antiquities ' Edward Hawkins, Esq. 435 — 425 425 _ - 262 10 - 425 Assistant Keeper - - - C.F. Barnwell, Esq. - 345 345 327 13 - 202' 10 -, 345 - - Keeper of the Prints W. Y. Ottley, Esq. - 200 - - 200 - - 200 - - 150 - - 237 lO - Secretary - . - . Rev. J. Forshall 60 - - 60 60 - - 45 - - 60 Expenditor - - - - Sir Henry Ellis - - - . - Assistant to Expenditor untiH December 1828 - -J - 10 - - 20 - - ' 20 - - 20 - - 20 - - Accountant - - - - Mr. F. Scolney 30 30 - - 30 22 10 - 28 13 4 REMARKS. (^°) Keeper of Natural Histori/.— Has the custody and arrangement of the Minerals, Fossils, Zoological and other objects of Natural History; gives five days in every week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £. 5 a year. Is also entitled, under the will of the late Dr. Birch, to a yearly Stipend of £. 5. 4. 7. Has apartments, consisting of seven rooms, in which he is bound to reside. Has derived no emolument from other public sources. ('■') Assistant Keeper. — Dr. Leach until 1822; since that period, J. G. Children, Esq. Mr. Children assists in the care and arrangement of the Minerals, Fossils, Zoological and other objects of Natural History ; give five davs in every week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £. 5 a year. Has apartments, consisting of seven rooms, in which he is bound to reside. Has derived no emolument from other public sources. ('^) Keeper of Sir Joseph Banks's Botanical Collections. — Has the custody and arrangement of the Botanical Collections- gives four days in every week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £.5 a year. Has no apartments, nor any other emolument or perquisite whatever. Q'') Assistant — Assists in the arrangement of the Botanical Collections; gives five days in every week to the service of the Museum. Has no emolument or perquisite beyond his Salary. c Keeper of Antiquities.— Taylor Combe, Esq. until 1826 ; since that time Edward Hawkins, Esq. Mr. Hawkins has the custody and arrangement of the Antiquities, Coins and Medals, and tl^e chief custody of the Prints and Drawings ; gives five days in every week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £.5 a year. Has apartments, consisting of nine rooms, in which he is bound to reside. Has- derived no emolument from other public sources. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 373 RECEIPTS IN THE YEARS ENDING Christmas 1825. Christmas 1826. Christmas 1827. Christmas 1828. Christmas 1829. Christmas 1830. Christmas 1831. Christmas 1832. (3 Months) 25 March 1833. £. S. d. 425 345 425 '458 13 6 275 - - 100 - - 20 - - 30 - - £. S. d. 425 - - 345 - .- 313 7 8 *405 9,4 256 5 - 100 - - 20 - - 30 £. s. d. 425 - _ 345 - - 55 15 - 29 3 7 425 - - 120 - - 275 - - 100 - - 20 - - 30 £. *. d. 425 345 - - 334 2 8 150 - - 425 - - 262 15 9 275 100 - - 19 8 - 30 - - £. . s. d. 425 345 - - 350 150 _ - 425 - - 345 - - 275 - - 100 - - 30 £. s. d. 425 - - 345 350 150 - - 425 345 275 100 - - 30 £. s. d. 425 - - 345 - - 350 - - 150 - - 425 - - 345 275 100 - - 30 £. s. d. 425 - - 345 - - 350 - - 150 -f - 425 - - 345 - - 275 - - 100 - - 30 - - £. s. d. 162 10 -C) 142 10 -(") 125 --n 37 10 -(") 162 10 -(") 142 10 -(") 87 10 -(") 25 --D - - (") - ■ C) 7 10-0 REMARKS. (") Assistant Keeper.— J. G. Children, Esq.' until 1823 ; then Dr. Noehden until 1826 ; then Edward Hawkins, Esq. From 1827, C. F. Barnwell, Esq. Mr. Barnwell assists in the care and arrangement of the Antiquities, Coins, Medals, and Prints and Drawings ; gives five days in every week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £.5 a year. Is entitled to apartments, consisting of five rooms, but gives them up to the next Junior Librarian. Has derived no emolument from other public sources. » Part of the sums marked with an asterisk'were paid to Mr. Hawkins, who gave his assistance to Mr. Combe and Dr. Noehden during these years. («) Keeper of the Prints.-~Mr. J. T. Smith until 1833 ; now W. Y. Ottley, Esq. Mr. Ottley has the particular charge and arrangement of the Prints and Drawings ; gives six days in the week to the service of the Museum. Has an allowance of Stationery to the value of about £■ 5 a year. Has no apartments or other perquisites whatever. (") Secretary.— Re^ry Ellis, Esq. until 1828; since that time the Eev. J. Forshall. Mr. Forshall issues all summonses to the Trustees, makes the minutes of their proceedings, and conducts their correspondence; prepares all money drafts for their signature, and keepB an account of the same ; notifies all vacancies in the Establishment to the Principal Trustees. There is no perquisite attached to this Office beyond the salary. (») Expendiior.^3oBe^\i Planta, Esq. until Dec. 1827 ; since that time Sir Henry Ellis. The Expenditor certifies the ■'correctness of the Tradesmen's Bills; makes all payments, takes the proper receipts, and keeps a general cash account. There is no salary, emolument or perquisite attached to this Office. Its duties have been usually performed by the Principal Librarian. (») Assistmt to Expandiior.-Joseph Planta, Esq. who died in 1828, having been fifty-five years in the service of the Trustees, was assisted in the duties of the Office of Expenditor by Henry Ellis, Esq. (^) Accomtant—m. T. Keith until 1824 ; since that time Rlr. F. Scotney keeps thi accounts of the Trust. ' 479. , 3 E 3 374 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE ATTENDANTS, SEIIVANTS AND OTHER PERSONS. AN ACCOUNT of the Number of Attendants, Servants and other Persons (not Officers, and not included in the preceding Account,) employed in the British Museum, for the Years ending 25th March 1820 and 25th December 1832 ; with the Amount of their respective Salaries, &c. DEPARTMENT OF MSS. NATURE of EJIPLOYMENT. Clerk and Assistant • Ditto ditto Ditto - - ditto Ditto - - ditto, to assist in describ- ing Oriental MSS. Attendant YEAR ending 25th March 1820. N A BI E. Simon Hehl SALARY. YEAR ending 25 December 183?. NAME. £. s. d. 75 - Ditto ■ Ditto - Employed on Gene- ral Index to the MS. Collections. Mr. John Holmes Mr. Joseph Stevenson Dr.G. Schier' Mr. James Mitchell Benjamin Bromley - SALARY. £. s, d. 130 4 - 146 - - 44 - - 33 10 - 95 - - REMARKS. Robert Chambers - K. E. Mackenzie Mr. John Millard 15 ~ - 65 - - 300 - _ - - 12*. a day for every day actually employed. - - 12*. a day for every day actually employed. - - 10*. a day for every day actually employed. - - 10*. a day for every day actually employed. - - Yearly Salary, with an increase of £.5 a year after every five of the first ten years froniMidsummer 1831. Twenty-three years' ser- vice.* - - Yearly Salary ; no in- crease. Attendance five days in the week, from 10 to 4. Seven years' service. - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £. 5 a year after every five of the first 20 years from Midsumm.er 1 83 1 . - - For five days' service in every week. DEPARTMENT OF PRINTED BOOKS Clerk and Assistant Ditto - - ditto - Attendant Ditto Ditto John By grave William Turner Benjamin Bromley 15 - - 104 11 8 78 5 - Mr. Thomas Yeates Mr. Charles Coke John Bygrave William Turner - John Birche 11 - log 4 - 109 4 _ 75 - - 105 - - 65 - - * Atttt;dance is given by the Attendants, except where it is otherwise specified, every 9 o'clock to 5 in the Summer, and from 10 to 4 in the Winter. Nine years' service. Nine years' service. - - Yearly Salary. Attend- ance five days in the week from 10 to 4. Twenty-three years' service. - - Yearly Salary ; no in- crease. 23 years' service, - - Yearly Salafy, with an in- crease of £.5 a year after every five of the first ten years from Midsummer 1 831 . Nine years' service. day in the week, from SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 375 NATURE of YEAK ending 25 March 1820. YEAR ending 23 December 1832. . REMARKS. EMPLOYMENT. NAME., SALARY. NAME. SALARY. £. s. d. £. s. d. Attendant William Phillipps - 78 12 6 Joseph Phillipps - 90 - - - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £.5 a year after every five of the first fifteen years from Midsummer 1 831 . Eight years' service. Ditto ^ - Daniel Buckland - go - - - - Yearly Salary ; no increase. Eight years' service. Ditto * St. John Bygrave - 70 - - - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £. 5 a year after every five of the first fifteen years from Midsummer 1 83 1 . Seven years' service. Ditto - - John Turner 75 - - - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £. 5 a year after ' ■ every five of the first ten years from Midsummer 1831. Seven years' service. Ditto Hugh Caston 51 4 - - - £. 52 yearly, with an in- crease of £.2. 12. a year after every five of the first twenty years from Midsum- mer 1831. Ditto C. W. Kellet 43 10 - - - £. 52 yearly, with an in- crease of £.2. 12. a year after every five of the first twenty years from Midsum- mer 1831. Employed in making - - - • . Rev. T. H. Home - 360 - - - - For six days' service in Classed Catalogue. every week ; has no per- quisites ; derives no emolu- ment from other public sources ; was appointed to a prebendal stall in St. Paul's Cathedral in 1831, from which, in 1 832, he received £.6. 12. 10., and it will re- quire the receipts of, six years to reimburse the sums paid for Stamp Duty, &c. on institution. KING'S LIBRARY Attendant Ditto Ditto John Williams William Leach John Griffiths 100 - - 60 - - 51 4 - - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £. 5 after five years from Midsummer 1831. Thirty-six years' service in the King's Library. - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £. 5 a year after every five of the first ten years from ]\irdsummeri83i- - - £. 52 yearly ; with an in- crease of £. 2. 12. a year after every five of the first, ten years from Midsummer 1831. 479. 3 B 4 876 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL HISTORY: NATURE YEAR ending 25 March 1820. YEAR ending 25 IJecember 1832. \ REMARKS. of EMPLOYMENT. NAME. SALARY. NAME. SALARY. > £. s. d. £. s. d. Clerk and Assistant - " ■ ~ ■ Mr. G. Samouelle - 195 - - - - For five days' service in the week ; employed in the Museum 1 2 years. Ditto " " ■ ■ Mr, J. E. Gray - 195 - -' - - For five days' service in the week ; employed in the Museum nine years. Attendant William Church - 99 10 - William Sanders - 105 - - - - ■pearly Salary ; no in- ' crease. 23 years' service. Ditto William Sanders - 88 6 2 Edward Holman - 85 - - - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £.53 year after every five of the first ten jrears fromMidsummeri83i. Ditto 1 4 Frederic Sanders - 60 - - - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £.5 a year after every five of the first ten yearsfrom Midsummer 1 83 1. Ditto - - Thomas Priestley - 51 4 - - - £.52 yearly; with an in- crease of £. 2. 12. a year Employed in writing Isabels for Specimens of Natural History }■ ■ ■ - - Mr. G, R. Gray - after every five of the first twenty years from Midsummer 1831. 54 12 - j No increase. DEPARTMENT F ANTIQUITIES: Attendant John Conrath 75 - - John Conrath 75 - - - - Yearly Salary ; no in- crease. Attendance five days in the week, from ten to four. 17 years' service. Ditto John Hare - 92 - - John Hare - 89 -- tra timf ' ' £-75 yearly; no increase. Additional payments for ex- 3 given to the sei;vice of the Museum. 22 years' service. Ditto Joseph Garrett 56 18 - Joseph Garrett ■78 -- - - £. 54. 12. yearly ; no in- crease. Additional payments for extra time given to the service of the Museum. Ditto Attendant in the \ _ Print Room -J ' - John Dutz - George Reid 55 - - 52 - - after e years fr - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £. 5 a year after every five of the first twenty years from Midsummer 1 831 . - - Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £.2. 13. a year very five of the first twenty om Midsummer 1831. READING ROOM; Principal Attendant Attendant Ditto Ditto Mr. James Gates - 115 5 Mr. James Cates John Harris John Scott - William Osnaan 140 - ,- Yearly Salary, with an in- crease of £. 10 a year after five years from Midsummer 1831. Has a very confidential and respon- sible situation. 23, years' service. - - Yearly Salnry ; no in- crease.- 1 3 years' service. 95 - - 85 -- 85 -- - - Yearly Salary ; no in- cre'ase. ' Seveh years' service. - - Yearly Salary,* with an in- crease of £. 5 a year after every five of the first twentyyearsfrom Midsummer 1831. Six years' service- SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 377 EXTRA ATTENDANTS to keep Order on the Days of Public Admission : / NATURE of EMPLOYMENT. YEAR endiug 25th March 1880. YEAR" ending 2Sth December 1832, \ NAME. SALARY^ NAME. SALARY. REMARKS. £. s. d. £. s. d. Extra Attendant J. J. Brown - 45 5 - George Spencer 30 - - - - 5 «. a day for every day actually employed. Ditto John Game - 43 15 - Thomas Finch 30 - - - - 5 s. a day for every day actually employed. Ditto D. Masters - 30 10 - Henry Adams 30 - - - - 5 *. a day for every day actually employed. Ditto Joseph Towlerton - 30 10 - George Byard 30 - - - - 5 «. a day for every day actually employed. Ditto M. Meyer - 34 12 - - - - 5 «. a day for every day actually employed. HOUSEHOLD SERVANTS, &c. Messenger Assistant Messenger Porter Watchman & Even- ing Porter. Watchman & Even- ing Porter. Labourer and Stove- keeper. Ditto Ditto ditto ditto Ditto - - ditto Gardener Chief Housemaid Housemaid Ditto - Ditto - Ditto - Ditto - Ditto - James Alloway Charles Stuart James Thurston W. Robins - R. Robins - John Young - 52 4 - James Dickson Mary Bygirave F. Stuart ■ ■ M. Alloway R. Thurston E, Alloway 44 - 52 4 61 5 - 51 5 - 54 12 - 70 - 44 7 36 10 36 10 36 10 36 10 George Noble Charles Monticelli James Thurston H. Marshall William Bates John Young - Christopher Clinch James Thurston Cornelius Sullivan - Mary Bygrave 479. Mary Alloway Elizabeth Alloway - Ann Firth - Sarah Griffin V Lucy Simmons Georgiana Dixon - 3 c 60 - - 46 12 - 54 16 - 55 - - 55 - - 54 12 - 50 1 - 54 12 - 38 7 - 49 11 - - - Yearly Salary, with five guineas a year additional for his trouble in selling the Synopsis ; lodgings, coals and candles. - - Yearly Salary, lodging, coals and candles. - - Yearly Salary, a perqui- site of one guinea a year, lodging, coals and candles. 41 14 41 14 41 14 41 14 41 14 41 14 - - Care of stoves in West Wing, and common duties of a labourer. - - Common duties of a la- bourer. - - Care of stoves in East Wing, and common duties of a labourer. - - Care of stoves in Old House, and common duties of a labourer, 18*. per week. - - Has the charge of the linen, and superintendence of the other female servants ; lodging, coals and candles. 31 years' service. - - The Housemaids are em- ployed in sweeping and duSt.< ing several parts of the Mu- seum ; in lighting, supplying and extinguishing the fires ; ' in opening and shutting the windows, and in the washing and repairing of the linen reserved for the use of the Museum. Lodging, coals and candles. 378 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE ppendix, No. 3. Statutes, Rules and Bye Laws. (6.)— STATUTES and RULES for the British Museum, as altered in consequence of the Repdrt of a Committee of the Trustees appointed gth February 1833. STATUTES AND RULES. Chapter L leral Meetings. iding Committee. italion. Of the Meetings, Functions and Privileges of the Trustees, 1. There shall be Four General Meetings of the Trustees, at the Museum, in every year, namely, upon the Second Saturday in February, May, July and December.* 2. Special General Meetings may be summoned by the Secretary, upon receiving a notice to that effect signed by three at least of the Trustees. 3. The ordinary business of the Museum shall be managed by a Standing Committee, consisting of fifteen Trustees to be appointed at a General Meeting, and of such other Trustees as may from time to time signify to the Secretary their willingness to attend ; which Committee shall meet at the Museum on such stated day in every month as they shall appoint, and as much oftener as they shall judge to be necessary or expedient for the service of the Museum, and at such other times as they shall be summoned by order of any three Trustees, signified in like manner as is expressed in the preceding Article ; and all the Trustees who shall at any time come to the Committee, shall have voices in the said Committee : Provided that no business shall be transacted at any Committee unless three Trustees at least be present. 4. The said Committee shall have power to make temporary orders in such cases as may seem of too little importance to require the immediate calling of a General Meeting, or on pressing emer- gencies which require immediate attention ; in all which cases they shall report such orders to the next General Meeting. 5. They shall also have power to affix the Seal of the Corporation to any application to Parliament for money, and also to the Memorial to the Lords Commissioners of His Majesty's Treasury, requesting payment of the same. 6. They are also to inquire, as often as they shall think fit, into the conduct of all the Officers and Servants ; to receive any scheme or proposal for the better ordering or managing the Museum, or any part of it ; as also any complaint of neglect, or of disobedience to the orders of the General Meeting or Committee ; and to give such directions therein as they shall think proper. 7. They are also to give to the Officers such leave of absence as they shall think proper, provided that such absence do not extend beyond the space of thirty days in the year, to be taken between the 1st of August and the 31st of October inclusive, in addition to the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun weeks, during which the Museum is closed'; unless for special reasons the Committee should think it necessary to permit a longer absence ; and the said leave is not to be granted to more than four of the Resident Officers at the same time, nor to so many, unless in cases of necessity ; it being positively enjoined, that either the Keeper of each Department, or his Assistant, shall always, remain resident in the house. The Junior Assistant Keeper, to whose office apartments are not attached is required to have his usual abode within one mile of the Museum, and strictly to reside there during the absence of his colleague from the Museum.f 8. They are also to examine the bills of tradesmen, and all other demands upon the Museum- and if they approve the same, to order payment thereof. 9. All monies belonging to or at the disposal of the Trustees, shall be kept at the Bank of England ; and all drafts for payments out of the same, shall be signed by three of the Trustees. 10. There shall be a general Visitation of the Museum by the Trustees on the day of the General Meeting appointed to be holden on the second Saturday of May in eaph year ; the Visitation to commence immediately after the conclusion of the business of the General Meeting ; but in case there shall not be a sufficient attendance of Trustees to constitute a General Meeting, the said Visita- tion shall nevertheless be made by such Trustees as shall be then present. 11. Besides the said Annual Visitation, the Trustees, in a General Meeting, may appoint Visita- tions either of the whole or any part of the Collections, as often and on such days as they shall think fit; five days' notice of the day and hour of every Visitation, whether general or partial, shall be sent by the Secretary to each of the Trustees. 12. Every Trustee shall have free access to any part of the Museum^ and may take with him any number of persons he shall please to introduce ; but only during such hours as the Museum shall be open to view. * A General Meeting must consist of Seven Trustees at the least. Vide 27 Geo. 2. t By Stat. 26 Geo. 2, ao Officer's place can be supplied by Deputy, unless for occasional sickness, or other cause of absence approved by the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Lord Chancellor, and the Speaker of the House of Commons, or any two of them. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 379 Chapter II. The Officers and Servants of the Museum. The Establishment of the Museum consists at present of the following Officers and Attendants: 1. A Principal Librarian, who is now likewise Expenditor. 2. Four Keepers of Departments, having severally the custody and arrangement of their re- spective departments ; namely, those of Printed Books ; Manuscripts ; Natural History ; Arts and Antiquities. ^ 3. Four Assistant Keepers of Departments ; namely, one to each of the above-mentioned depart- ments, with the like duties as the Keepers, but subject to their direction respectively, 4. Two additional Assistant Keepers ; one attached to the department of Printed Books ; the other to that of Arts and Antiquities, who is entrusted with the care and arrangement of the Prints , and Drawings. 5. An Under Librarian, and two Assistant Librarians, who were attached to the King's Library previous to its removal to the Museum ; and a Keeper of Sir Joseph Banks's Botanical Collections, in like manner having the custody of those Collections previous to their removal. It is intended that these four Offices should be placed upon a different footing as they may severally become vacant, and that the whole care of the King's Library and Sir J. Banks's Botanical Collections should be ultimately transferred to the regular Officers of the Museum. 6. Seven Clerks, who, under the direction of the Keepers of the several Departments, are engaged pro tempore, to assist in the arrangement and description of the Collections. 7. A Secretary, who attends all Meetings of the Trustees, conducts their correspondence, pre- pares all drafts for payments made by them, makes the minutes of their proceedings, and issues all summonses. He also notifies to the Principal Trustees all vacancies in the Establishment. 8. A Principal Attendant^ and three inferior Attendants of the Reading Room, who receive the requests of the persons frequenting the room, and supply them with Books and Manuscripts. g. Twenty-five Attendants, who, under the direction of the Librarians, are to perform all menial services in the different Departments ; and some of whom are stationed, on open days, in different parts of the house, to prevent any trespass or irregularity. Also four extra Attendants, who are employed solely in this last-mentioned duty. 10. A Messenger and Assistant Messenger, a Porter, seven Houseraaidsj, two Watchmen, who are also Evening Porters, and foUr Labourers and Stove-keepers. Appendix, No. 6, Statutes, Bules i Bye Laws. Establishment of Officers, &c. Chapter III. Rides relative to the Officers and Servants. 1 . The Principal Librarian, the four Keepers of Departments, and three of the Assistant Keepers, Apartments and who have apartments allotted to them respectively *, are strictly enjoined to reside in them, unless "*^"*8''*^^' when leave of absence is granted by the Trustees. Every Officer shall continue to occupy the apartments first assigned to him, so long as he shall remain in the same situation. 2. The Principal Librarian being chiefly entrusted with the care and custody of the Museum, is Principal Librarian. expected to exercise a constant superintendence over every department, and to take care that all orders made by the Trustees, relative to the, internal management of the Museum, are duly carried into effect. He is also to report to the Trustees any instance of neglect or irregularity. 3. Upon extraordinary occasions, such as when persons of eminence, either for rank or learning, especially Foreigners, are desirous of inspecting the whole or any part of the IVIuseum, and shall make it appear that they cannot conveniently avail themselves of the usual mode of admission, the Principal Librarian shall be allowed to grant admission to such persons ; and he shall either attend them himself, or appoint some other Officer to accompany them. 4. The Principal Librarian, and in his absence the Secretary, shall grant admission to the Reading Room, according to the regulations laid down in Chapter IV. 5. In case of sickness, death, or allowed absence of the Principal Librarian, the Secretary, if that office be holden by one of the Keepers of Departments, or, if not, the senior Officer in resi- dence, shall be considered as his representative, and be empowered to exercise all the functions prescribed in the foregoing Articles. The Principal Librarian, if he shall absent himself from the Museum, either by reason of the leave given to him by the Committee, or from urgent necessity, shall give notice in writing of his absence to the Secretary or senior Officer in residence. And no Officer shall in any case absent himself from the Museum, without giving notice in writing to the Principal Librarian, and to the senior Officer of his own Department ; and the Principal Librarian shall report the said absence to the Trustees at their next meeting, unless leave of absence shall have been given by the Trustees themselves. 6. The subordinate Officers are to aid and assist the Principal Librarian in all matters relating to his duty, in respect to the care and custody of the Museum ; and they are strictly enjoined to give immediate 479. * The Junior Assistant Keeper has, for want of room, no apartments allotted to jjim in the house. 3 c 2 380 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE pendix, No. 3. atutes. Rules and Bye Laws. )ers of Depart- s, and their slants. J of the Officers E several Depart- cipal Librarian to ! remarks upon thly and Annual jrts. iinff Room. iral -Instructions. immediate notice to the Principal Librarian, if any article in the Museum shall be lost or .damaged, in order that he may report the same to the Trustees at their next meeting. 7. The Keepers of Departments and their Assistants are to be particularly careful that every thing within their respective Departments be at all times preserved in good and exact order ; that full and accurate catalogues and lists be made and kept, comprising every article in their respective custodies ; and that the apartments containing that part of the Collection vifhich is under their care, be kept as neat and clean as is consistent with the admission of persons to view and make use of the same. 8. One of the Keepers, or Assistant Keepers, according to a rota to be agreed upon among themselves, and confirmed by the Principal Librarian, shall be always in waiting in the Museum, and be considered the Directing Officer of the day. He shall regulate the admission of visitors, according to the directions laid down in Chap. IV. sect. 3, and shall likewise see that due order and decency be observed by all persons in the Museum, whether visitors or domestics. The Secretary shall be exempt from this duty. 9. The Officers of the several Departments shall give the whole of their time, for which they are respectively engaged by the Trustees, to the service of the Museum, and shall employ themselves in arranging scientifically, and in making catalogues of all additions that may be made from time to time to the Collections entrusted to their care ; and also in re-arranging the old Collections, and correcting the old catalogues, whenever either may stand in need of it. In performing this duty, they shall be particularly careful to enter in the catalogues, references to the places where the respective articles are deposited, and also to note and affix to the said articles the references made in the catalogues ; and they shall severally report their progress in these works to the Monthly Committees of the Trustees, specifying the point from which, as well as the point to which, their Reports extend ; besides which, they shall state annually to the Trustees, at their General Meeting on the second Saturday in May, being the Visitation Day, Ae whole of the work by them severally executed in the year then ended ; laying before the Trustees at that time the several Works upon which they have been employed in the preceding year, and in which they are then respectively engaged. On the day of Annual Visitation, the Catalogues and Inventories of the several Collections in the Museum shall be laid before the Trustees, and the Secretary shall particularly bring to their notice the Inventory of the Pictures presented through them to the National Gallery, in order that the Trustees may appoint a day for the visitation of those Pictures. The Keepers of the several Departments, and the Officer charged with the care of the Prints and Drawings, shall on the Visitation Day lay before the Trustees a Manuscript List of all Additions made to the Collections in their charge in the preceding year, distinguishing such Additions as have been presented or bequeathed to the Museum, with the names of the respective donors ; and the List, having been approved by the Trustees, shall be printed, and a copy transmitted by the Secre- tary to each Person whose present is recorded therein, or, in case, of the decease of such person, to his Representative. The Keepers of the several Departments, and the Officer charged with the care of the Prints and Drawings, are also to be particularly careful to mark every article bequeathed or presented to the Museum, with the name of the person making such bequest or donation, and with the date of its presentation ; and they shall pay especial attention to the preservation of these objects, which the Trustees do not allow to be sold as duplicates, or otherwise disposed of. - 10. The Principal Librarian shall make such remarks on the Monthly Reports of the Officers as he may think necessary for the information of the Trustees ; and at the foot of their Annual Reports he shall state his opinion as to the efficiency of the services performed by them respectively. 1 1 . As the proper management of the Reading Room is essentially important to the usefulness of the Museum, it is expressly enjoined, that the Principal Attendant do regularly attend in the said room ; and that he do on no account whatever leave it, unless the next senior Attendant shall be there, or some other competent person appointed by the Principal Librarian. 12. The Principal Attendant shall keep a book, in which shall be entered the names of all those who have duly obtained admission into the Reading Room ; and it shall be his duty to take care that no person enter the room without being authorized ; to see that the readers are provided with such books or manuscripts as they may require, and to assist them, so far as may be in his power, in the objects of their research : he shall also see that they do not damage the books or manuscripts, nor annoy any of the other readers. 13. The Expenditor shall keep an exact Account of all the Imprests and Expenditures, which Account shall be audited, at a General Meeting or Committee, at least once a year. He shall like- wise examine and check all bills sent in by tradespeople, and certify that the respective articles have been ordered by the proper authority, that the charges are duly made, and that the computa- tions are accurate. He shall likewise take care to obtain proper receipts for the monies which pass through his hands. In the accounts of workmen, the correctness of their charges shall be certified by the Clerk of the Works, or other person supplying his place. 14. The Principal Librarian and one Officer, at least, of each Department, shall give due attend- ance at all ordinary Meetings of the Trustees ; and all the Officers shall be within the precincts of the Museum during the time of any Visitation. 15. In framing these Regulations, the Trustees are aware that it is impossible for them to define the duty of each Officer with a sufficient degree of precision for all possible emergencies ; in addi- tion, therefore, to the above Rules, it is to be considered as a general instruction to the several Officers, that they conduct themselves as becomes men of honour, integrity and liberality in the conscientious discharge of the duties of their respective stations, and as men who have the credit and utility of the Institution truly at heart. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 381 Ch apter IV. ^ Appendix, No. 3. Concernins Admission into the British Museum. ^' Statutes, Rules an< ° Bye Laws. 1. The Museum shall be kept open for public Inspection every Monday, Wednesday and Friday — — in every week, except in the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun Weeks ; on Ash Wednesday, Good Days and Hours of Friday; on Thanksgiving and Fast Days ordered by Authority ; and during the month of September. ■'^ 3 390 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Endix, No. 7. of Committees, ames of Trustees. Lord Bishop of London. The Duke of Hamilton. Sub-Committee on Departments of MSS. and of Printed Books. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sub-Committee on Department of Natural History. H. R. H. the Duke of Sussex, Chairman. Duke of Northumberland. Marquess of Lansdowne, Earl of Derby. Earl Cawdor. T. Andrew Knight, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. Sub-Committee on Department of Antiquities and Art. Lord Farnborough, Chairman. | Earl of Harrowby. Earl of Aberdeen. Sir M. A. Shee. Lord Bishop of London. Lord Farnborough. Lord Ashburton. Sub-Committee of Finance. Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, Bart. Sir Robert Harry Liglis, Bart. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. Marquess of Lansdowne. Earl of Aberdeen. Earl Cawdor. Lord Farnborough. British Museum, 21 May 1835. Sub-Committee on Buildings. Lord Ashburton. Sir Robert Harrj' Inglis, Bart. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. J-. Forshall, Secretary. apendix, No. 8. ■s of Meetings of Trustees. Appendix, No. 8. A RETURN of the Days on which the Trustees of the British Museum have met during each of the Years 1832, 1833, 1834; the Hours of Meeting, and the Trustees who attended each of the aforesaid Meetings. 1832 : January 14. One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Bishop of London in the Chair, The Lord Farnborough. The Lord Dover. 1832 : February 11. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chan-. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1832: February 16. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Bishop of London in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. The Lord Farnborough. The Lord Dover. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1832 : February 16. Two o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. The Lor(} Dover Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833 : March 10. One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Lord Farnborough. The Lord Dover. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1832 : April 14. One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Bishop of London in the Chair. Right Hon. Sir John Leach, Master of the Rolls. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Henry Bankes, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 391 1832 : May 12. Twelve o'clock. Comimittee. Present, The Lord Dover in the Chair. The Marquis Camden. The Lord Bishop of London. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Henry Bankes, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833; May 12. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Cliair. The Marquess Camden. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Dover. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Henry Bankes, Esq. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1 832 ; June 9. One o'clock. Committee. Present, Henry Bankes, Esq., in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Earl of Harrowby. The Right Hon. the Speaker. Alexander Baring, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1832 : July 14. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex Presi- dent of the Royal Society, in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury. The, Lord Farnborough. The Lord Dover. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. 1833 : July 14. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Lord Farnborough. , The Lord Dover. The Right Hon. the Speaker. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. 1 832 ; August 1 1 . One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Royal Highness"^ the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society, in the Chair. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. 1832 ; October 13. One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. The Lord Dover. Eight Hon. Thomas Grenville. 479- 1832 ; November 10. One o'clock. Committee- Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1832 : December 8. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Bishop of London in the Chair. The Lord Farnborough. " George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833 : January 12. One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833: February 9. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Bishop of London in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Marquess Camden. The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833 : February 9. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Marquess Camden. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833; February 16. Twelve o'clock. Special Committee. Sub-Committee on the Department of Antiquities. Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chajr. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Marquess Camden. The Earl of Aberdeen. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833: March 9 . One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester in the Chair. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Earl of Harrowby. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. The Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. Appendix, No. £ Days of Meetings c Trustees. , 304 392 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 8. Days of Meetings of Trustees. 1833: March 18. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness "the Duke of Gloucester. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Marquess Camden. The Earl of Harrowby. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1S33: March 20. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Lord Farnborough. The Lord Dover. Eight Hon. Thomas Grenville. Alexander Baring, Esq. Henry Bankes, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833: March 26. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Earl of Aberdeen. The Earl of Harrowby. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. The Lord Dover. Right Hon. Sir John Leach, Master of the Rolls. Right Hon. gliomas Grenville. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Henry Bankes, Esq. Alexander Baring, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq.' 1833 : April 3. One o'clock. Special Committee. Sub-Committee on the Department of Antiquities. Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chair. Henry Bankes, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833: April 20. One o'clock. Committee. , Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Lord Farnborough. Henry Bankes, Esq. Alexander Baring, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833: May 11. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Duke of'Devonshire, Lord Chamberlain. The Earl Cadogan, The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough, Right Hon. Sir John Leach, Master of the Rolls. Lord Chief Justice Tindal, C. P. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Henry Bankes, Esq. Alexander Baring, Esq. Thomas Andrew Knight, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. i833:'Mayii. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex,- Presi- dent of the Royal Society. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Earl Cadogan. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Sir John Leach, Master of the Rolls. Lord Chief Justice Tindal. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Henry Bankes, Esq. Alexander Baring, Esq. Thomas Andrew Knight, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833; May 15. Sub-Committee on the Department of Antiquities. The Lord Farnborough. Henry Bankes, Esq. 1833: May 23. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Marquess Camden. The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon, ThomaS' Grenville. Henry Bankes, Esq. • Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. 1833: June 8. One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. ' The Earl of Cadogan. The Earl of Harrowby. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Henry Bankes, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833: July 13. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Bishop of London in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. The Duke of Rutland. ' , The Earl of Cadogan. The Earl of Harrowby. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir Henry Halford, Bart. President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir John Campbell, Attorney-general. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 393 1833: July 13. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, The Earl of Harrowby in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. The Duke of Rutland. The Earl Cadogan. The Lord Bishop of London. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir John Campbell, Attorney-general. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. 1 833 : August 6. Three o'clock. Meeting of the Electing Trustees. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Lord Chancellor (Lord Brougham & Vaux). The Right Hon. the Speaker. ' His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. The Earl Cadogan. The Lord Bishop of London. Sir John Campbell, Attorney-general. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833: August 10. One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Earl of Harrowby. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1833 : October 12. One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chair. The Lord St. Helens. The Lord Chief Justice Tindal. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. 1833: November 9. One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chair. THe Lord Bishop of London. The Lord St. Helens. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. 1833: December 14. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chair. His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Lord Bishop of London. The Right Hon. the Speaker. Sir Henry Halford, Bait., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Henry Bankes, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 479- 1833 : December 14. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Right Hon. the Speaker. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Sir Henry Halford, Bart,, President of the Col- lege of Physicians. / Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Henry Bankes, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: January 11, One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Bishop of London in the Chair. The Lord Farnborough. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: February 8. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Marquess of Lansdowne, The Marquess Camden. The Earl of Harrowby. The Lord Bishop of London, The Lord Farnborough, Right Hon. Sir John Leach, Master of the Rolls. Lord Chief Justice Tindal. Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, Bart. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: Februarys. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Marquess Camden. The Earl of Harrowby, The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. The Master of the Rolls, Sir J, Leach. Lord Chief Justice Tindal. Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, Bart. Sir Henry Halford, Bart,, President of the College of Physicians. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1 834 : February g. Twelve o'clock. Sub-Committee of Finance. Present, The Lord Farnborough. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1 834 ; February 1 1 . Three o'clock. Meeting of Electing Trustees. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Lord Chancellor (Lord Brougham & Vaux). The Speaker.' His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Earl Grey, First Lord of the Treasury. The Lord Bishop of Londoii. 4-. ilj * * *- *■ Sir John Leach, Master,of the Rolls. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 3 E Appendix, No. 8 Days of Sleetings Trustees. 394 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 8. Days of Meetings of Trustees. 1834: March 5. Twelve o'clock. Sub-Committee of Finance. Present, The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, Bart. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: March 8. One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Duke of Hamilton. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Marquess Camden. The Earl Cawdor. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. The Right Hon. the Speaker. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: March 12. Twelve o'clock. Special Committee. (Sub-Committee of Finance with other Trustees.) Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex, Presi- dent of the Royal Society. The Marquess of Lansdowne. Alexander Baring, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. » 1834: April 13. One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Marquess Camden. The Earl Cawdor. The Lord Bishop of London. Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, Bart. Henry Btokes, Esq. Peregrine Edward t'ownley, Esq. 1834: April 26. Twelve o'clock. Special Committee. (Sub-Committee of Printed Books, with other Trustees.) Present, The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Alexander Baring, Esq. 1834: April 30. Twelve o'clock. Special Committee. (Sub-Committee of Printed Books, with other Trustees.) Present, Henry Bankes, Esq., in the Chair. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: May 6. Twelve o'clock. Special Committee. (Sub-Committee of Printed Books, with other Trustees.) , Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chair. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Lord Bishop of London. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Henry Bankes, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: May JO. Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Duke of Rutland. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Earl of Harrowby. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Thomas' Grenville. Sir John Campbell, Attorney- general. Henry Bankes, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: May 10. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Duke of Rutland. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Earl of Harrowby. The Earl Cawdor. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. The Lord Chief Justice Tindal. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir John Campbell, Attorney-general. Henry Bankes, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: May 14. Half-past Three o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Royal Highness the' Duke of Gloucester in the Chair. The Duke of Hamilton. The Marquess of Lansdowne. The Marquess Camden. The Earl of Harrowby. The Earl of Ripon. The Lord Farnborough. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Henry Bankes, Esq. Alexander Baring, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834: June 14. One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Earl of Harrowby in the Chair. His Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester. The Duke of Hamilton. The Earl Cadogan. The Earl Cawdor. The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. • Right Hon. Sir Robert Peel, Bart. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Henry Bankes, Esq. Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834 ; July 12j Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Duke of Rutland. The Duke of Hamilton. The Earl of Harrowby. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 395 The Earl Cawdor. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Ri^ht Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Henry Bankes, Esq. Alexander Bering, Esq. 1834: July 12. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Duke of Rutland. The Duke of Hamilton. The Earl of Harrowby. The Earl Cawdor. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. Henry Bankes, Esq. Alexander Baring, Esq, 1 834 : August 1 . One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Farnborough. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. The proceedings were reported to the Lord Bishop of London, and received his Lordship's approbation. 1834: September 20. One o'clock. Committee. Present, The Lord Farnborough in the Chair. The Lord St. Helens. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. - 1834: October 11. One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Lord St. Helens. The Lord Farnborough. 1834: Novembers. One o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Marquess Camden. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. The Right Hon. the Speaker. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir Martin Archer Shee, President of the Royal Academy. 1834: December 13, Twelve o'clock. Committee. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Duke of Northumberland. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Jlight Hon. Thomas Grenville. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1 834 : December 1 3. One o'clock. General Meeting. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. The Duke of Northumberland. The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Farnborough. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- leg* of Physicians. Right Hon. Thomas Grenville. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. 1834 : December 26. Meeting of Electing Trustees. Present, His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Chair. . The Speaker. The Lord Privy Seal (Lord Wharncliffe). The Lord Chamberlain (Earl of Jersey). The Lord Bishop of London. The Lord Chief Justice, K. B., Lord Denman. The Lord Chief Justice, C. P., Sir N. Tindal. Sir Henry Halford, Bart., President of the Col- lege of Physicians. Sir Frederick Pollock (Attorney-general). Appendix, No. 8 Days of Meetings of Trastees. Exclusive of four or five Meetings of the Trustees in Committees on special business. 21 May 1835. J. Forshall, Sec^. Appendix, No. 9- HETURN of the Names of the Family Trustees of the British Museum, and the Mode in which each Family nominates such Trustees. Appendix, No. ( Names of Family Trustees. Two,j 2.' Trustees representing the Sloane Family, Earl Cadogan. Vacant.— [Filled up since the date of the Return, by the appointment of Lord Stanley.] Nomipation vested by Act 26 Geo. 2, c. 22^ in the heirs male of Charles, second Lord Cadogan and Hans Stanley, Esq., and, upon failure of the heirs male of either, in the heirs male of the other, being of full age, or theirrespective guardian or guardians .during their nainojity. • 479- 3 E 2 Trustees 396 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No, g. Names of family Trustees. Trustees representing the Cotton Family, fi. Rev. Arthur Annesley. Two, I2. George Booth Tyndale, Esq. Nomination vested by Act 22 Geo. 2, c. 22, in Frances Hanbury, relict of Francis Han- bury, Esq., and after her decease, in the heirs male of her body, being of full age; and in default of such heirs male, in her daughters successively, as they should be in priority of birth; and t\\e several respective heirs male of such daughters, being of full age, or the respective guardians of the heirs male of the said Frances and her daughters during their minority. Trustees representing theHarley Family, rp, ri. Lord Henry William Bentinck. ^'"°- {2. The Earl Cawdor. Nomination vested by Act 26 Geo,. 2, c. 22, in Henrietta Cavendish Holies, relict of Edward, second Earl of Oxford and Earl Mortimer, and her daughter, Margaret Cavendish, Duchess of Portland, or the survivor ; and after their decease, in the heirs male of the said Duchess, being of full age, or their guardian or guardians during their minority ; and upon failure of such heirs male, in the heirs male of Edward, third Earl of Oxford and Earl Mor- timer, being of full age, or their guardian or guardians during their minority. Trustee representing the Townley Family, One — Peregrine Edward Townley, Esq. Nomination vested by Act 45 Geo. 3, c. 127, in the sons of Edward Townley Standish, Esq,, successively in priority of birth, and the heirs of them respectively, being of full age,- .or their guardians during their respective minorities ; and in default of such issue, in John Townley, Esq., and his heirs, being of full age, or their guardians during their respective minorities. Trustee representing the Elgin Family, One — The Earl of Elgin. Trusteeship vested by Act 56 Geo. 3,' c. 99, in Thomas, Earl of Elgin, and after his decease in every person who shall successively attain to the rank and dignity of Earl of Elgin, being of full age. Trustee representing the Knight Family, One — Thomas Andrew Knight, Esq. Hereditary, by Act 5 Geo. 4, c. 60, in the descendants of Thomas Andrew Knight, Esq. in the direct male line, and in case of their failure, in the next descendants in the male line of Richard Knight, Esq., grandfather of Richard Payne Knight, Esq., and incase of failure, in the next descendants in the female line of the said Richard Knight, Esq. Trustee appointed by His Majesty, One — The Duke of Northumberland. Nomination vested by 2 Will. 4, c. 46, in His Majesty, his heirs and successors, under the sign-manual. British Museum, 21 May 1835. J. Forshall, Secretary. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 397 Appendix, No. 10. Appendix, No. lo. (1.)— AN ACCOUNT of the Number of Applications made to the Trustees of the British Museum (at Meetings authorized, according to the Rules, to grant Admissions) for the purpose of being admitted to inspect that part of the collection of Minerals not generally shown, or any particular part thereof, and of the number of similar Applications for the purpose of being admitted to inspect the collection of Medals and Coins, or any parts thereof; and of the num- ber of similar Applications for the purpose of being admitted to inspect the collection of Prints and Drawings, or any parts thereof; and of the number of similar Applications for the purpose of being admitted to the Reading Room ; such Accounts to extend to the last five years past, and to contain the number of Admissions in consequence of such Applications ; and the number of Applications and Admissions in each of the five years to be stated. It is most respectfully stated, that of the applications alluded to in the first Order of the House of Commons, for admissions to that part of the collection of Minerals not generally shown, or any parti- cular part thereof, no register has been ever kept. The applications being either for the private view of a party of visitors ; or, as in far more numerous instances, for the inspection of a single class of minerals, or even an individual specimen by some geologist. The Officer of the department, in compliance with the liberal intentions of the Trustees, has never, in any instance, referred such appli- cants to the Monthly Meetings of the Committee, but either complied with the request immediately, or by some appointment with the party applying. In the case of the Medal Room the accommodation has been the same. Tuesday, from twelve till •four in every week, was, in 1814, allotted by order of the Trustees to the exhibition of Coins and Medals to persons making particular application to see them. But, in all cases, where inquiry was made by collectors, or by persons for literary or other useful purposes, the Keeper of the Antiquities and Medals never failed to give immediate assistance ; or, if his time or official duties would not then allow it, made the earliest appointment possible with the person making inquiry ; referring those parties only to the Principal Librarian's permission, who were desirous of seeing the collection with- out any particular object, excepting that of general information or curiosity. , In like manner no register has been kept of any admission to see the Prints and Drawings. After the extensive thefts committed in 1806, access to the collection of Prints was for a time entirely ■closed, till they could be arranged and fastened down in portfolios. After that arrangement was completed, one day in each week was set apart for viewing the collection. In i8i6, an extra assist- ant of the .department, to which the prints belong, was appointed solely to the duties of that room ; since which time it has been nominally opened two, but really, by the direction of the Trustees, five days in each week. In respect of applications for admission to the Reading Room, they have been, as nearly as pos- sible, commensurate with the admissions. No refusal having been ever given even to persons unknown or unrecommended ; but the application postponed till the person applying could furnish the required reference. The admissions to the Reading Room have been of three descriptions : The first, consisting of per- sons admitted as students for the full term, by the Standing Committee. The second, of persons who have for special purposes received admission for a shorter term, above the space of a day and not exceeding a fortnight ; these permissions have been granted by the Principal Librarian. The third description consisting of persons who have made casual and momentary searches only, such as inquiring after a single book or manuscript, a fact or a date, or who have had permission to consult particular articles for a morning. Of this last description no record or register whatever has been preserved. The number of tickets of admission and renewal to the Reading Room, for the full term allowed by the Standing Committee, for the last five years, has been as follows : A. D. 18x6 - - " " , " 292 1817 - - ... 437 1818 .... . . 477 1819 - ... 503 1820 .... . 515 1. Applications for inspecting Minerals, Medals, Coins, &c. Making a Total of - 2,224 Admissions not exceeding a fortnight in duration, as far as they can be recollected ; A. D. 1816 . . . . 38 1817 ... 3g 1818 ,. - 67 : 1819 ^g 1820 .48 Making a Total of - - - 251 Total of admissions in the last five years recorded ... 2,^1 S- The Statute for the admission of students to the Gallery of Sculptures being among those required by the Order of the House of Commons, it may not be "irrelevant to add, that the number of stu- dents who were admitted to make drawings in the Townley Gallefy, from thayear 1809 to the year 1817, amounted to an average o( something more than 20. 479- 3 E 3 In 398 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. lo. In 1818, immediately subsequent to the opening of the Elgin Room, 223 students were admitted j in 1819, 69 more were admitted; and in 1820, 63. In 1821, from 1 January to 20 February, 25. Making a total, since the opening of the room, of 380. Every student sent by the Keeper of the Royal Academy, upon the production of his academy ticket, is admitted without further reference to make his drawings ; and other persons are occasionally admitted, on simply exhibiting the proofs of their qualifications. According- to the present practice, each student has leave to exhibit his finished drawing, from any article in the Gallery, for one week after its completion. 1. Applications for inspecting Minerals, Medals, Coins, &c. 2. Payments for extra Services. (2.) — AN ACCOUNT of the Amount of the Annual Salaries, and of the Monies paid to each of the present Under and Assistant Librarians, Officers and Attendants, employed in the care and arrangement of the Manuscripts, Printed Books, Minerals, Medals, Coins, Prints and Draw- ings, for extra Service Money, or any other Sums or Gratuities paid to them beyond their stated Salaries, and stating the nature and extent of the service and attendance of each Officer ; and also, the nature and extent of the services for which extra service-money may have been paid ; such Account to extend to all Services and Payments within the last ten years, and such Account to state the nature and extent of the accompnodation afforded to each Officer in the way of Lodging, Perquisites, &c. ; and also, all Statutes and Rules of the Trustees of the British Museum now in force, with respect to the. admission to the Reading Room, and the different oxher Collections, and generally for the management of the Museum and Collections. Principal Librarian : Joseph Plawta, Esq. Salary, 500 Z. per annum. No extra remuneration of any kind. Under and Assistant Librarians : Each bound by the Statutes to give two days' attendance in the week to the duties of their respective offices. Under Librarians : 1. Henry Ellis, Esq., Keeper of the Manuscripts. Salary, 200 I. per annum for two days' attend- ance. Extra allowance for two additional days in the week (at the rate of 75 I. per annum for each , day*) 150 I. He is also Secretary. 2. The Rev. H. H. Baber, Keeper of the Printed Books. Salary, 200Z. per annum, for two days. Extra allowance for two other days, 150^. 3. Charles Kb'nig, Esq., Keeper of the Natural History. Salary, 200/. per annum, for two days.- Extra allowance for three other days, 225 /, 4. Taylor Combe, Esq., Keeper of the Antitiuities, including Coins and Medals. Salary, 200 I. per annum for two days. Extra allowance for three other days, 225 Z. Assistant Librarians : 1. The Rev. Thomas Maurice, Assistant Keeper of the Manuscripts. Salary, 120Z. per annum. Salary, 120/. per annum. No extra allowance at Extra allow- No extra allowance. 2. The Rev. James Bean, Assistant Keeper of the Printed Books Extra allowance for two additional days of duty, 150Z. 3. Dr. Leach, Assistant Keeper of the Natural History. Salary, 10.01. present, being absent upon account of illness. 4. John George Children, Esq., Assistant Keeper of the Antiquities. Salary, 120 Z, ance for three additional days, 225 Z. Extra Assistant Officers: Each bound to five days' attendance in the week. Dr. G. H. Noehden, in the department of Printed Books. Salary, 200 1. Extra allowance for an additional day, 75 Z. Mr. J. T. Smith, in the department of Antiquities. Salary, 200 Z. No extra allowance. Secretary : — Henry Ellis, Esq. Salary, 60 1. No extra allowance. Accomptant: — Mr T.Keith. Salary, 30 Z. Extra allowance for assisting the Expenditor, 10 /. Attendant of Reading Room : — Mr. James Gates. Salary, lool. Extra allowance on Saturdays, when employed, 5 n. per day. There are also five Attendants, who, under the direction of the librarians, perform all menial ser- vices in the different departments; their duty extending to five days in the week. These have each 75 Z. per annum. There are likewise eight extra Attendants, who are stationed on the three open days in every week in different parts of the house, to prevent any trespass or irregularity on the part of the corppanies ; they are paid at the rate of 5 s. per day each. Of the nature and extent of the service and attendance of the respective officers in their depart- ments, it may be observed, that The Principal Librarian is the person to whom the care and custody of the whole Museum is chiefly intrusted. He takes care that all orders of the Trustees are obeyed ; prevents every kind of irreo-u- larity ; grants temporary admissions to all parts of the Museum in the intervals of the Committees ; and has also the office of Expenditor. The Under and Assistant Librarians are charged each with the care of their respective depart- ments. Exclusive of the attentions which they render to persons of eminence for rank or learning, it is their duty to employ themselves in arranging and writing catalogues of all additions which are from time to time made to the collections entrusted to their care ; and to superintend the publication of the same, when any such are ordered by the Trustees to be printed. The nature of their engage- ments is such, that no distinct line can be drawn to discriminate ordinary from extra duty ; the latter being in fact a continuance only of the former. They report their progress in the chief works in which * Tlie extra allowance of the officers was first made in 1811. day, Feb. 12, 1814. It was increased from .50 1, to 75 /. a year for each extra SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 399 whidi they are engaged, once a month, to the Standing Committee; and, at the General Visitation Appendix, No. 10. in the month of May, recapitulate the sum of their reports, and exhibit the produce of their labours !_ for the preceding year. One of the Assistant Librarians, the Rev. Mr. Maurice, performs his two 2. Payments for extra days of ordinary duty in attendance in the Reading Room. Services. The extra Assistant Officer, in the department of Printed Books, is engaged in the performance of — ■ simile labours with the other officers of his department. The extra Assistant Officer in the department of Antiquities, has the particular charge of the Prints ; it is his business to arrange and make catalogues of them, and he attends to the students and other visitors who frequent that room. The Secretary's duty is to attend all meetings of the Trustees ; to make the minutes of their pro- ceedings, and to issue summonses. He has also occasional employ in the way of correspondence and < in the preparation of papers. The Accomptant, besides keeping the accounts of the Trust, prepares all such as are required to be laid before Pairliament. The Attendant of the Reading Room performs his duty there for three days in each week ; his services, on the other two days, being made available in the Library. In regard of services and payments for the last ten years, it may be proper again to notice that the result of the ordinary cannot be separated from the extra duty of each officer. In 1810, the year to which the Return ordered is directed to extend, Mr. Ellis, the present Keeper of the Manuscripts, had the charge of the department of Printed Books. Four volumes out of eight of the last catalogue of Printed Books, were made and edited, by him. He has also made and printed, by order of the Trustees, a catalogue of the Hargrave Collection of Manuscripts, and made the greater part of the second volume of the catalogue of the Lansdowne Manuscripts. Of other catalogues prepared by him in his department, a quarto volume of Dr. Burney's Classical Manu- scripts, with an alphabetical index ; another, containing a catalogue of about a thousand original Charters, presented to the Museum by the late Lord Frederick Campbell, and four volumes in folio of a catalogue of the additional collection of Manuscripts, remain unprinted. The great catalogue of Charters has also been continued by him. Other labours and arrangements have been constantly performed, but it is hardly possible to state them upon paper in exact detail. The total amount of extra allowance granted to the Keeper of the Manuscripts, from 1st January 1810 to 31st December 182c, has been 1,350/. The Rev. Mr. Baber, the present Keeper of the Printed Books, has, within the last ten years, compiled and edited four other of the volumes of the catalogue of Printed Books. The purchase of several distinguished libraries, the continual additions of new publications under the Copyright Act, incidental purchases and donations, have increased the library during that time, from about 120,000 to near 200,000 volumes. The general regulation of the department, the continuation of the printed catalogue, the claims for books entered at Stationers' Hall, the distribution of books in their respec- tive classes, the setting aside of duplicates, and numerous other services, form the miscellaneous total of his labours. Interleaved copies of the catalogue of Printed Books, specifying the titles of all ad- ditions (as far as they could b^ entered) have been also prepared for the use of the Library and the Reading Room, each set in 21 volumes in folio. The total amount of extra allowance granted to the Keeper of the Printed Books, from 1st January :j8io to 31st December 1820, has been 1,437/. lo*. Mr. Konig, the Keeper of the Natural History, exclusive of general superintendence, as the head of his department, has chiefly devoted himself to the care and arrangement of that branch of it which contains the Minerals. The revolution which has taken place of late years in mineralogical science, rendered it necessary to make new arrangements throughout the collection. To Sir Hans Sloane's were added Mr. Cracherode's and Mr. Hatchett's collections, Mr. Greville's, subsequently the collec- tions of the Barons Moll and Beroldingen, and a collection of Peruvian minerals presented by Lord Grenville. The consolidation of the w>.ole of these into one collection (the largest now known in the world), according tovtbe combined systems of Werner and Hany, and the determination, arrangement and labelling of the different specimens, will account for a large portion, both of the ordinary and the extra duty performed by Mr. Konig for the last ten years. To this is to be added the formation of a separate collection, consisting of British minerals only ; the arrangement, determina- tion and description of a most extensive assemblaige of secondary fossils ; the preparation and conti- nual alteration requisite in his portion of the hand-guide for visitors ; with other labours and engage- ments, the enumeration of which in a Return is scarcely practicable. The total amount of extra allowance granted to the Keeper of the Natural History, from 1st January '1810 to 31st December 1820, has been 1,875/. Mr. Combe, the Keeper of the Antiquities and Medals, exclusive of arrangements in the whole of his department, directing the positions of statues and marbles, the selection of duplicate coins, the prepa- ration of his portion of the hand-guide for visitors, with its successive changes, and other various but nameless duties, has, during the last ten years, published, by order and at the expense of the Trustees, a description of the Terra Cottas in the Museum, in a quarto volume ; four volumes of a description of the ancient marbles ; and a catalogue of the Greek coins of kings and cities. Separate catalogues also of the Anglo-Saxon coins, the English silver, English gold, Anglo-GaUic, English pattern pieces in gold, and English pattern pieces in silver, in six volumes quarto, have been prepared : these, with a catalogue of Roman contorniates, and a supplemental description of Greek coins (the latter still in progress), remain unprinted. 'I he total amount of extra allowance granted to the Keeper of the Antiquities, from 1st January 1810 to 31st December 1820, has been 1,725 /. Ihe Rev. Thomas Maurice, the present Assistant Keeper of the Manuscripts, during the required period, has had his duties confined to attendance in the Reading Room. No extra allowance has been 'at any time paid to him. The Rev. James Bean, the Assistant Keeper of the Printed Books, ihaving been appointed in 1812 only, the return of his services can be made but from that period. They have been exerted m the continuation of the general catalogue, in supplying the bookbinder with constant employ, m press- marking books, in receiving and entering the contents of the parcels from Stationers' Hall, demandmg books from authors and publishers, and in all the lengthened details of a large library. The total amount of extra allowance granted to the Assistant Keeper of the Printed Books, since February 1814 (when it commenced) to 31st December 1820, has been 1,050/. „' TT . Dr. Leach, 479. 3 = 4 . ' 400 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. lo. 2. Payments for extra Services. Dr. Leach, the Assistant Keeper of the Natural History, was appointed in 1813. His duties have- been principally directed to the zoological part of the collection, including the classification and arrangement of a long suite of cabinets of entomology. Among his more prominent labours, he has described and superintended the setting up of a large collection of British animals of all descriptions, including fish, reptiles, &c. ; arranged the whole of the shells in the Museum ; and been constantly engaged in every useful occupation which his branch of the department required. The total amount of extra allowance granted to the Assistant Keeper of the Natural History, from the time of his appointment to 31st December 1820, has been 1,475/. 8^. 6d. Mr. Children, the Assistant Keeper of the Antiquities and Medals, appointed in 1816, exclusive of general services and the very frequent exhibition of the Museum to persons of distinction, has com- piled, within the period of his duties, a catalogue of the British medals, in two volumes ; another of the French medals ; and three volumes (the third still in progress) of a catalogue of Roman silver. The total amount of extra allowance granted to the Assistant Keeper of the Antiquities, since the time of his appointment to 3 1st. December 1820, has been 542 I. gs. Dr. Noehden's extra duty has but recently commenced. He was appointed to his present office in 1819. The aggregate of extra allowances to the officers of the British Mu.seum, from 1811, when they commenced, to 31st December 1820, amounts to 11,136/., of which 1,600/., were paid to an officer now dead; and 80/. 11 s. 6 d. to a gentleman who is no longer attached to the establishment. _ During the same period 1,503 /. 2 «. 8d. have been paid in small sums for the extra services of attendants in the different departments. The pay being calculated at 5 s. per day each when em- ployed. The only perquisite (if stationery be excepted) allowed to any of the officers, falls to the lot of the Keeper of the Manuscripts, who, upon being called to attend a court of law with any manuscript, charter or other document from his department, is entitled to a recompense under the statutes. The thing occurs, so seldom, that no account has been ever kept by him of the proceeds; but six guineas in a year is, to the best of his belief, too large a sum for an average. The stationery allowed to the different officers appears to amount to an average of from 5 /. to 8 /. a year each, according to the demands of the officers. The Principal Librarian and the Secretary using the largest proportions. Of Gratuities : The sum of 100/. was paid in 1812 to Mr. Konig, for his extraordinary exertions in arranging the Greville Minerals. In the same year the sum of 180 /. was paid to the Rev. Mr. Bean, for assistance in the Museum before he became an officer. And two sums of 150/. each to the Rev. Mr. Baber and Mr. Konig, as a remuneration for the journey made by them to Munich in 1815, for the purchase of Baron Moll's library and minerals. Two or three gratuities of a smaller kind, amounting to little more than 30/., have also been granted to attendants. Eight officers of the Museum are lodged within its walls ; viz. Mr. Planta, Mr. Ellis, Mr. Combe, Mr. Baber, Mr. Konig, Mr. Maurice, Mr. Bean, and Dr. Leach. The apartments of Mr. Planta, the Principal Librarian, occupy a suite of ten rooms in the west wingof the offices of the Museum. Mr. Ellis's apartments, in the east wing, consist of nine rooms ; Mr. Combe's of nine rooms; Mr. Baber's of nine; Mr. Konig's, in the back court, of seven; Mr. Maurice's of four; Mr. Bean's of four; and Dr. Leach's of seven, Henri/ Ellis, Secretary. EXTRACTS from the Statutes and Rules of the British Museum, concerning the Times and Modes of Admission. Chap. III. § 1. The Museum shall be kept open for public inspection every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, in every week; except in the Christmas, Easter, and Whitsun weeks, on Thanksgiving and Fast days, and during the months of August and September. On Tuesdays and Thursdays the Museum «hall likewise be kept open for private parties. The Museum hours are from ten till four as well for viewing the collections, as for admission to the Reading Room. 2. Persons who wish to see the Museum, are to apply on any of those above-mentioned open days in the Anti-room of the house, between the hours of ten and two, where each individual will be required to inscribe his or her name aijd place of abode, in a book to be kept for that purpose ; upon which they will be shown into the apartments as soon as the first rooms are sufficiently cleared for their admission. 3. The officers of the Museum are authorized to exhibit the Museum during the open hours, on Tuesdays and Thursdays, to such of their friends, or persons of distinction for rank or learning, as may occasionally apply to them for a sight of the whole or any part of it ; but in such cases they are required to attend the visitors personally. 4. The Principal Librarian, or the Senior Officer in residence, shall be authorized to grant admis- sion, particularly to foreigners, during the two months of vacation ; one of the attendants being always in waiting to acc6mpany them through the house. 5. It is expected that persons who visit the Museum be decent and orderly in their appearance and behaviour; the officers being instructed to refuse admission to, or cause to withdraw, any person who shall disregard this caution. No children apparently under ten years of age will be admitted. EXTRACTS from the Statutes of the Museum, concerning Admission to the Sculptures, Coins, Medals, Prints, &c. - Chap. III. § 16. The members of the Royal Academy and artists, as well professional as dilet- tanti, may have access at all admissible times to copy from the sculptures in the Gallery of Antiqui- ties, upon application to the Trustees, or to the Principal Librarian, or the Senior Officer in residence ; but it is expected that young artists or students produce recommendations from a professor of the academy. 17. That SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 401 17. That one of the attendants be always present in the Gallery during the times when persons Appendix, No. JO. are employed in taking copies. ' 18. The collections of Coins, Medals, and Prints shall not be shown but by leave of a meeting of 2. Payments for extra the Trustees, or of the Principal Librarian ; no person shall be admitted into the room to see them Services. except in the presence of the keeper of the collection ; nor shall more three persons be admitted at — ■ the same time, without the Principal Librarian, or some subordinate officer of his appointment, attending the whole time together with the keeper of the collection ; and in no case shall more than four persons be admitted at the same time. 19. No officer, attendant, or servant, shall take any fee, reward or gratuity from persons visiting the Museum, or in any way making use of its contents, except in the above-mentioned case of attending courts with evidence *, or of being extra-officially employed by readers to make searches or transcripts, when a proper compensation may be agreed for, subject to the approbation of the Principal Librarian. [Access to the Minerals is regulated by no other statute or statutes but those of general ad- mission.] EXTRACTS from the Statutes and Rules of the British Museum, relating to the Reading Eoom. Chap. II. I 6. Among the duties of the Principal Librarian : 6. He shall also be allowed to grant temporary admission into the Heading Room, to such persons as apply during the intervals between the meetings of the Committee ; such leave, however, to become void unless confirmed at the next subsequent meeting. Chap. II. § 17. As the proper management of the Reading Rpom is essentially important to the utility and credit of the Museum, it is particularly enjoined that one of the Under or Assistant Libra- rians do always attend in the said room f. And the Trustees being particularly anxious that this duty be punctually executed, do strictly order that the officer, whose turn it shall be to attend in the said room, do on no account whatever leave it without another officer having agreed and being actually come to supply his place. And, in order the better to enforce this important duty, the Messenger or his Assistant shall keep a book, in which he shall enter daily the name of the officer who has the whole or any part of the day attended the said Reading Room; which book shall be laid before every meeting of the Standing Committee. 18. The Principal Librarian shall keep a book, in which shall be entered the names of all those who have duly obtained admission into the Reading Room ; and the duty of the officer in waiting shall be to take care that no one enter the room without being duly authorized ; to see that the readers are severally accommodated, and provided with such books or manuscripts as they may require ; and to assist them, so far as may be in his power, in the objects of their research ; he shall also see that they do not damage the books or manuscripts, or annoy any of the other readers. Chap. III. % 7. The Reading Room of the Museum shall be kept open from ten till four every day in the week, except Saturdays and Sundays, and for one week at Christmas, Easter, and Whit- suntide, and on Thanksgiving and Fast days ; and it shall be constantly attended by one of the Libra- rians in the manner above directed. Persons desii-ous of admission into the said room are to send their applications in writing to the Principal Librarian, or in his absence to the Senior Under Librarian ; these officers are to lay the sasne before the next General Meeting, or Committee of Trustees, who will, if they see no objection, grant, admission for a term not exceeding half a year. But in all cases which may require such dis- patch, as that time cannot be allowed for an application to the Trustees, the Principal Librarian, or in his absence the Senior Officers in residence, shall be empowered to grant a temporary leave till the next General Meeting or Committee. 9. Persons who apply for admission to the Reading Room are to specify their descriptions and places of abode ; and as it might be dangerous in so populous a metropolis as London, to admit per- fect strangers, it is expected that every one who applies should produce a recommendation from a Trustee or an Officer of the house. 10. Every reader may, at the expiration of his term, apply for a prolongation of the same, without a fresh recommendation. 1 1 . Readers are allowed to take one or more extracts from any printed book or manuscript ; but no whole or greater part of a manuscript is to be transcribed, without a particular leave from the Trustees. 12. No person is, on any pretence whatever, to write on any part of a printed book or manuscript belonging to the Museum ; but if any one should observe a defect in such book or manuscript, he is requested to signify the same to the officer in waiting. 13. Persons engaged in works of learning, or in the prosecution of any useful design, and having occasion to examine any part of the collection with more attention than can be done in the ordinary way of viewing the Museum, or using the Reading Room ; or having occasion to make a drawing of any thfng contained in the iVIuseum, are to apply to the Trustees in a General Meeting, or to the Standing Committee, for particular leave for that purpose, who will give directions according to the circumstances of the case. • 14. The respective officers whom it may concern, viz. either the Keeper of the Manuscripts, or the Officer in the Reading Room, are charged to be particularly attentive in observing persons who may have occasion to inspect manuscripts, charters, deeds or other instruments, which are liable to be called for as evidence. JV, B. — ^In 1814, the rota ordered in the above Statutes, chap. II. § 17, was materially changed. One o{ the Assistant Librarians only continued his turn for two days in each week, whilst an inferior person, called the Attendant of the Reading Room, performed tlie rest of the service. .See the Extract from the proceedings of a General Meeting, held November 26, 1814, at the end of the present transcripts. The preceding Extracts are faithful copies from the Statutes and Rules of the Museum. Henry Ellis, Secretary. * I'rovided for ia the Statutes, chap. lil. lec. 16. B. E. t Vide chap. JII. sec. 7. 479- 3 r 402 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. lo. i. Payments for extra "Services. EXTRACT from the Proceedings of a General Meeting of Trustees of the British Museuna, held November 26th, 1814, subsequent to the printing of the last edition of the Museum Statutes, m which the Rota, mentioned in chap. IT. § 1 7, is superseded, and a more extended Admission granted to the Coins, Medals and Prints. A Proposal was read from the Principal Librarian respecting the Reading Room of the Museum, and an increased facility of admission to the Coins and Kngravings : the same having been referred to this Meeting by the Sub-Comnn'ttee on the Statutes and Rules. Ordered, That Mr. Planta carry into effect his suggestion respecting the Reading Room, and that he report, upon the same to the Trustees, at the next General Visitation, for their decision, how far it may be fit to make the same a permanent rule. On Mr. Planta's suggestion respecting admission to the Prints ; Ordered, That the Engravings and Drawings be exhibited upon Thursday in every week to persons applying to see tliem, not exceeding six at one time, and that others be admitted in succession. Ordered, That the Principal Librarian, or in his absence the Keeper of the Print Room, do grant admission to all who shall apply for a sight of the Prints, if duly recommended by a Trustee or Officer. Ordered, That no such inspection be allowed but in the presence of the officer of the department, and of an attendant to be appointed. Resolved, That this admission to the Prints also be a temporary and experimental measure, to be reported on by the Principal Librarian at the next General Visitation. Ordered, That no tracing be allowed without a previous permission from the Trustees, upon an application, specifying the particular article or articles, for which the permission is desired. Ordered, That every Tuesday be set aside for admitting persons who are desirous to inspect the collections of Coins and Medals : that these admissions be obtained by recommendation from a Trustee, or from any officer sanctioned by the Principal Librarian. That not more than three persons be admitted at the same time, the supernumeraries, if any, being required to wait for vacan- cies: and that the hours of exhibition be limited from twelve till four o'clock, the keeper of the de- partment being bound to attend on those occasions, and also the attendant. Resolved, That this also be a temporary rule, to be reported on at the next General Visitation. The above is a true copy from the Proceedings of the Trustees. Henry Ellis, Secretary. Appendix, No. 11. . Expense of publish- ng the Alexandiian MS. Appendix, No. 11. (1.)— AN ACCOUNT of the Expenditure on the publication of the Fac-simii,e pf the Alexandrian Manuscript, from 1814 to 1828. 1814: Dec. 13 1815: April 28* — Dec. 1 2 1816: July 9 Dec. 1817: June 14 — Dec. 10 Messrs. Longman & Co., for paper - Mr. Baber, for editing - Mr. Mentor, for copying Messrs. R. & A. Taylor, for printing Mr. Baber, for editing - - . Mr. Mentor, for copying Messrs. Taylor, for printing Mr. Hughes, for wood cuts Type-founder's bill ... Mr. Baber's expenses to Paris, for codex A - Hot-pressing 45 sheets. No. 215 Mr. Taylor, for printing 20 J sheets Mr. Mentor, for copying ... J. Basire, for engraving five copper plates Mr. Baber, for editing 22 sheets Mr. Taylor, for printing 26 sheets - Extra for red-ink lines, in six sheets Alterations ----.. Tracing and cutting in wood 25 fac-similes Cutting 10 matrices and casting 21 lbs. type Hot-pressing 26 sheets - - . . 250 labels for the first part Binding 99 copies, part 1, in extra boards Copper-plate printer - - - . Mr. Mentor, for copying - . . Mr. Baber, for editing 23 sheets Mr. Taylor, for printing 28 sheets - Mr. Baber, for editing 28 sheets Mr. Mentor, for copying Mr. Taylor, for printing 26 sheets - Extra for red ink - - . . Alterations - . . . _ Tracing and cutting 76 fac-similes - collating a portion of the £. s. d. i>35i 7 - 168 - _ 50 - — 102 6 6 315 - — 75 - - 133 13 ■^ 13 7 _ 13 i8 - 48 .- _ 5 12 6 113 " 9 50 - — 22 16 _ 231 - _ 105 6 — 9 - - 10 18 — 7 2 — 33 11 6 3 5 — - 6 .. 24 15 .. 11 6 — 50 - _ 241 10 - 140 4 >. 294 .. - 50 - ~ 105 6 - 4 10 - 9 4 - 15 4 - SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 403 1817: Dec. 10 1818 : July 15 Not. 14 1819 : Jan. g — July — Nov. 13 1820: Jan. 17 — Mar. 11 July 8 _ Nov. 11 1821 Jan. 13 — April 14 June 9 — July 17 — Nov. 10 1822': Feb. 9 — i^ar. 22 *— Ntov. 9 1^23: July 11 1834: May 8 — , July 13 1828: Dec. 13 Hot-pressing 26 sheets Mr. Baber, for editing 26 sheets ------ Mr. Mentor, for copying - - Mr. Taylor, for printing eight sheets . - - - - Mr. Baber, for editing eight sheets ------ Mr. Mentor, for copying - - - - . - For binding, &c., and an illumination of a copy for the Prince Regent - --------- Mr. Baber, for compiling, editing, &c. six printed sheets of notes to accompany the text of the Pentateuch - - Mr. Mentor, for copying ------ Mr. Taylor, for printing 12 sheets of notes - - ~ Alterations ----- -- Hot-pressing 12 sheets -------- Casting 93 lbs. type for notes Mr. Baber, for editing six sheets, notes - . - - - Mr. Taylor, for printing, hot-pressing and wood cuts, 16 sheets, three sheets notes, and two sheets of preface , - - - Mr, Baber, for editing 21 sheets - - - - - Mr. Mentor, for copying Mr. Taylor, for printing 23 sheets - - - - Extra for red ink in 18 sheets - Alterations ----- -.. Hot-pressing 23 sheets ----- ..- Mr. Baber, for editing 23 sheets Bookbinder's bill - Mr. Baber, for editing 12 sheets ------ Mr. Mentor, for copying ------- Mr. Baber, for editing nine sheets - - - Mr. Taylor, for printing, hot-pressing and etogravfngs on wood, 44 sheets - - -■- Mr. Baber, for editing 23 sheets Mr. Mentor, for copying ------- Mr. Baber, for editing 2g sheets - - Mr. Baber, for editing 1 1 sheets . - . - - Mr. Mentor, for copying ------- Mr. Baber, for editing 13 sheets ------ Mr. Taylor, for printing 56 sheets, and titles for vol. 2, part 2, and vol. 3, part 1 ..----.. Extra for red ink in 28 sheets ------ Alterations - .-- ^--- Hot-pressing 56 sheets . ". " Tracing and cutting 48 fac-similes - - - 17 matrices for capitals ------ Cutting 19 ^ lbs. type - - - Wrappers, cord, packing and cart -hire - , - Mr. Baber, for editing eight sheets - ' - - - Mr. Mentor, for copying - - - - Mr. Baber, for editing five sheets - - . - - Ditto, for editing 1 9 sheets Mr. Baber, for editing 1 1 sheets Mr. Taylor, for printing 38 sheets - . . - - Extra for red ink in 32 sheets - . . - - Alterations ---------- • Hot-pressing 38 sheets - - - - -- Tracing and cutting in wood 130 fac-similes - . . . Type cast -..------- 250 labels .-. Cart'hire, wrappers and packing ------ Mr. Baber, for editing 1 1 sheets ------ Mr. Taylor, for printing 25 J sheets, notes . . - - 30 reams of paper - ------- Mr. Baber, for editing notes ------- Mr, Baber, for 28 sheets, notes - - - - - Mr. Taylor, for printing 17 sheets, notes - - - - - Alterations ---------- Labels for parts 1&2- Hot-pressing 17 sheets -,- Five wood engravings -------- Mr. Baber, for writing Prolegomena, compiling notes, &c. titles arid plate, comprising 25 sheets - - - - Mr. Taylor, for printing ditto ------ Mr. Basire, for engraving ------ 3 F 2 for £. £. 3 273 50 55 84 60 5 - 16 - ^ A.ppendix,.No. n. 1. Expense of Rublish| 16 15 63 - 50 - 57 7 1 25 63 16 - 10 - 11 6 120 7 220 10 50 - 93 3 37 16 8 6 2 17 241 10 23 126 - 50 - 94 10 15 - 279 14 - 241 10 - So - — 262 lO - 115 10 — 50 - 136 10 : 326 16 „ 64 8 - 21 12 - 7 - - 12 12 - 22 2 - 5 7 3 2 14 84 - ^ 50 - - 52 10 - 199 10 - 115 10 - 153 18 67- 4 — 12 15 - 4 15 - 46 16 - - 8 - - 10 - - 18 - 115 10 - 140 8 6 150 - - 115 10 - 298 - - 80 15 - 8 17 - 1 - - 226 - 8 - 262 10 - 126 5 6 19 13 - ing the AlexattdrtaU'fiS. 9,286 6 - (continued) 404 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, -No. ii. Sums received for the above purpose. ingtheAlexandiianMS. ^hree special Parliamentary grants of 2,000/. each, amounting to '* ' Estimate for ditto in 1820 Ditto - - 1821 - Ditto - - 1822 Ditto - - 1823 • Ditto - - 1824 . - - - . Sum expended - £. 5,998 1,000 1,000 1,000 d. 6 - 700 - 500 - - . £. 10,198 2 9,286 6 6 £. 911 16 6 19 June 1835. M. Cowtan, Accountant. 2. Expense for Draw- ings and Engravings of the Elgin and Townley Marbles. (2.) — AN ACCOUNT of the Expenditure for Drawings and Enghavings of the Elgin and Townley Marbles, for the Year 1834. January n February 8 March 8 - April 12 - May 10 - June 14 - July 13 - October 11 February 8 March 8 - April 12 - May 10 - June 14 - July 12 - October 1 1 December 13 Drawings : Mr.H. Corbould: Bas Relief, No. 11, Townley Gallery - . - _ An Outline of Bas Relief, No. 4 ----- . An Outline in the Townley Gallery, No. 9 - - - - An Outline of Bas Relief in the Townley Gallery, No. 13 - No. 13, Townley Gallery - - - - - - An Outline of Bas Relief, No. 14- Head of Jupiter, No. 15, Townley Gallery . . - . An Outline of No. 16, Townley Gallery - - - - - Outlines of Nos. 10 and 103, Townley Gallery . . . Outlines of Nos. 17 and 98, Townley Gallery - . - . No. 17*, Bas Relief, Townley Gallery - - - - _ A Female Head, No. 1 8, Townley Gallery - . . . Outline, No. 21, Townley Gallery - - - - Outlines of Nos. 30, 71, 74, Townley Gallery . _ . Ditto, No. 25, ditto . - - . _ £. Engravings : ~~~~" Mr. H. Moses : Plate in Outline — General View, Elgin Room - Mr. S. Davenport : No. 51 of the Frieze of the Elgin Marbles - Mr. A. R. Freebairn : Additions to a plate by the late Mr. Ran- som, of the Elgin Frieze, Nos. 19 and 30. Mr. H. Moses : Outline, No. 7, Townley Gallery - - - Ditto, No. 4.-'- . ... Ditto, No. 9 - - - ... Ditto, Nos. 10 and 103 - - _ . . . . Ditto, No. 12 - ■ Ditto, No. 14- ----... Ditto, No. i6 Ditto, Nos. 17 and 98-----... Mr. G. Corbould : Frieze of Elgin Marbles . . . x Mr. Wm. Bromley : An Alto Relievo, beine one of the Ekin Marbles. ^ Recapitulation - /Drawings - '^ l_Engravings £. s. 12 12 6 6 8 8 21 - 8 8 12 12 10 10 4 4 8 8 4 4 8 8 8 8 4 4 6 6 6 6 130 4 - 26 5 31 lo 15 15 6 6 6 .6 8 8 8 8 21 - 12 12 4 4 5 5 63 - 63 , - £. 271 19 _ - £. s. d. 130 4 - 271 19 - £. 402 3- - 19 June 1835. M. Cmutan, Accountant, SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 405 (3.)— AN ACCOUNT of the Sale of the several Museum Publicatiows, for the Years 1833 and 1834. 1833 • Synopsis Museum Marbles £. 1834: Synopsis - . . . Catalogue of Printed Books - Alexandrian Codex 19 June 1835. £. s. d. 435 10 - 26 11 - 462 2S9 3 36 4 19 10 354 17 - M. Cotutan, Accountant. Appendix, No. 11. 3. Sale of Museum Pub- lications, 1833 & 1834. Appendix, No. 12. (1.)— AN ACCOUNT of the Sum paid for Baron de Moll's Books, and other Articles. For Baron de Moll's collections ; viz. a library of books, comprising 20,000 vols., a small collection of minerals, and an herbarium ; including also all expenses incurred by Messrs. Baber and Konig on their journey to Munich and back, residence there, and remuneration to them ; cost of packing cases, of transport of the collections from Munich to Hamburgh, and from Hamburgh to London, brokerage, commission, &c. --...-... 4,768 - 8 M. Cowtan, Accountant. Appendix, No. 12. 1. Baron de Moll's £ooks and other Articles. (2.) — AN ACCOUNT of the Expenses of Messrs. Baber & Konig's Journey to Munich. i- Expenses of Journey to Munich. 1815: - 1816: Feb. 13. Travelling expenses of Messrs. Baber & Konig to and from Munich, and residence there from February to May Remuneration to Messrs. Baber & Konig, for their journey to Munich ...- -.-_ £.' s. d. 187 14 9 300 - - 487 14 9 M. Comtan, Accountant. Appendix, No. IS. ORDONNANCE du Roi, et R^glement concernaut la BilDlioth^que Royale, 26 Mars 1833. Oedonnance du Roi. Louis-Philippe, Roi des Frangais, ' A tous presents et k venir, Salut. Vu Tarticle 2 de laloi du 25 Vendemiaire an IV. (17 Octobre 1795), qui confie I'admi- nistration de la Biblioth^que Royale h un conseil compos6 de huit conservateurs de cet etablis- .sement, et fixe k quatre le nombre des d^partements qui forment la bibliothfeque ; Vu les arr^t^s et decisions qui, depuis I'epoque oii cette loi a 6te rendue jusqu'en 1828, en ont modifi^ les dispositions administratives et r^glementaires ; Vu Particle i^r de I'ordonnance du 2 Novembre 1828, qui ores un cinqui^me d^partement, celui des cartes g^ographiques et plans, et r6duit les conservateurs au nombre de cinq ; Vu le rapport rMig6 par M. Prunelle, membre de la Chambre des D^put^s, au nom d'une commission charg6e d'examiner le regime actuel des biblioth^ques de Paris, et pr^sidee par feu le Baron Cuvierj rapport dans lequel, en ce qui concerne la Bibliothfeque Royale, est ex- prim^ le vceu que le nombre des d^partements soit l^duit k quatre, et que celui des medailles et autres antiques soit confi6 ^ deux conservateurs, selon le vteu de la loi ; que le 479. 3 F 3 d^partement Appendix, No. 1 3. Ordonnance du Hoi, et Reglement conccrnant la Bib- liotheque Royale. 406 A^PfiNDiX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 13. departement des cartes et plans soit reuni a celui des estampes, et que deux conseryatears ^_ en soient charges ; que les conservateurs-adjoints aient une part dans Tadininistration, et Ordonnance du Roi que les droits des employes soient mieux garantis: et Ri^glerrtent Considerant que, depuis I'epoque ofi la bibl'ioth^que a commence d'etre re^ie par la loi de (•bhcefhaht la Bib- Van IV., elle a re§u dans toutes ses parties des accroissements tr^s-consid6rables ; que le hothfeqire* Royalfe. departement des imprimes, entre autres, a 6te porte de 120,000, a plus de 600,000 volumes ; " ' ' '" que le service public en est devenu beaucoup plus difficile, et les travaux interieurs beau- coup plus etendus et compliqu^s; Considerant que, dans les modifications apportees par rordonnance du 2 Novembre 1828 £1 rorganisation de la Biblioth^que Royale, il n'a pas ete tenu assez de compte de ces faits, et des besoins nouveaux qui en resultent ; . Considerant que Tadministration de la biblioth^que, telle que I'a constitute la loi du 25 Vendemiaire an IV., pr^sente des avantages maintenant reconnus, qu'il importe de conser- Ter; mais que cette administration collective, isol6e dans ses actes, d^pourvue d'unit^ de direction, disposant de I'avancement des fonctionnaires, des logements qui leur sont accordes,* des fonds portes au budget de la bibliotheque, des objets m^mes qui font partie des d6p6ts, a donne lieu h des abus contre lesquels la responsabilite de notre gouvernement n'est point k couvert, et dont il est necessaire de pr^venir le retour ; Voulant entrer dans les dispositions essentielles de la loi, et conserver k I'administration le caract^re fondamental qu'elle lui a donne, en y introduisant d'ailleurs les perfectionne- ments qu'ont reclames les hommes les plus 6claires, et qu'exige I'etat actuel de ce vaste dep6t ; voulant en oiitre garantir les droits des fonctionnaires de la bibliothfeque, et leur foumir le moyen d'arriver au rang de conservateurs ; Voulant enfin'iniprimer a tous les travaux une activite nouvelle, et, en investissant le pre- sident du conservatoire d'attributions plus etendues, et qui le placent dans un rappott plus iramediat avec I'autorite superieure, assurer a la fois son influence et sa responsabilite, et donner ainsi a I'administration generale I'ensemble etl'unite qui lui ont souvent manque ; Sur le rapport de notre Ministre Secretaire- d'Etat au departement de I'lnstruction Publique, iVbtfs avons ordonne et ordormons ce qui suit : Art. 1 . La Bibliotheque Royale est coriiposee de quatre d^partements : 1°. Des livres imprimes ; 2*. Des manuscrits, chartes et diplomes ; 3°. Des monnaies, medaill.es, pierres gravies et autres monuments antiques ; 4°. Des estampes, cartes g^ographiques et plans. La division en sections, restreinte jusqu'ici au deuxi^me departement, est etendue k tous les autres. Chaque departement est confie a autant de conservateurs qu'il renferme de sections, et a un ou plusieur^s conservateurs-adjoints, dont le nombre cependant ne peut depasser celui des sections du departement auquel ils appattiennent. Le nombre des sections est fix6 a deux pour le premier, le troisi^me et le quatrieme de- partement, a trois pour le deuxi^nie. Art. 2. Les conservateurs composent le conseil d'administration, qui garde le titre de Conservatoire de la Bibliotheque Royale. Les conservateurs-adjoints prennent part aux deliberations du conservatoire avec voix consultative. En I'absence des conservateurs du departement auquel ils appartiennent, ils peuvent avoir voix deliberative ; mais il faut qu'ils y soient autorises par une decision du ministre, rendue sur la proposition du conservatoire. Art. 3. Le conservatoire a la police generale de I'etablissement, la presentation aux places de conservateurs, par une liste de trois candidats, dont I'un au moins doit fetre pris parmi les conservateurs-adjoiruts ou employes definitifs, et a celles de conservateurs-adjoints par une liste de deux candidats, dont I'un au moins doit fetre un erriploye definitif. II a, de plus, la nomination aux emplois inferieurs, d'apres les formes indiquees ci-apr^s. II dispose en outre des fonds attribues k la bibliotheque, soit par la loi des finances, soit par decisions particulieres du ministre. Art. 4. Le conservatoire est presid6 par un directeur, que le ministre choisit sur une liste de trois candidats presentes par le conservatoire, et tir6s de son sein. Les fonctions du directeur durent cinq ans ; il peut 6tre toujours reelu. Art. 5. Le directeur a la surveillance generale de toutes les parties de ^administration et du service des depaitements. II convoque le conservatoire quand il le juge convenable. En cas de partage, sa voix est preponderante. II correspond avec le ministre, soit en son propre nom, soit au nom du conservatoire, pour tous les besoins du service. Lorsqu'il transmet au ministre les decisions et demandes du conservatoire, ily joint son avis par- ticulier. II adresSe au ministre tous les six mois, et plus souvent s'il est necessaire, un rapport sur- toutes les parties du service et sur I'etat des b^timents ; il y propose les ameliorations et les reformes qui lui paraissent utiles. En cas d'urgence, il est autorise k donner provisoire- ment les ordres qu il croit necessaires, sauf k en rendre compte, soit au ministre soit au conservatoire. ' Toutes les depenses de chaque departement discut^es dans le conservatoire sont soumises k son visa. Art. 6. Le bureau du Conservatoire est compose, outre le diredteuri-presideiit, d'un vice- president et d'un secretaire, Le SELECT COMMJTTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 407 .Le conservatoire les cho^sit da^s son seia chaque aijnde, Le VM^e-presjdeiit peutitre AuDendix Kftb/aflw reelu pour une annee seuleioent ; le secretaire peut fitre toujours reelu. ypwf v^i .ff t^'.t^p En cas d'emp^chement de la part du directeur, le vice-president le remplace dans la pr^- Or^fitjiyiBsgjdB.ilpj sidence du conservatoire ; mais il ne peut le remplacer dans les autres fonctions attach^es et RegleW^nt au titre de directeur, que par une delegation expresse du ministre. concer,napt J3. Bjfe-. Le secretaire redige les proc^s-verbaux des deliberations. du conservatoire, et assure leur lioth^q^iRojrater,, . transcription sur un registre,, apres que, kur ledaclion a ete appiouvee pat le conservatoire. --m .u - Ces procfes-verbaux sont signes |-ar le directeur et le secretaire. Un des conservateurs-adioints est choisi par le ministre pour remplir les fonctions de ,tr6- sorier: il fait dresser les etats de copiptes, regoit les fonds necessaires, effectue les, payer ments. Ses fonctions durent cinq ans : il peut ^tre reelu. Art. 7. Chaqne conservateur presente au conservatoire un certain nopabre d^ewplpy^ admis en qualite de surnumeraires ; apres les epreuves convenables, ces surnunieraires.sont agrees par le conservatoire en qualite d'auxiliaires : alors ils regoivent un traitement. Parmi eux sont pris, dans un concours (dont les conditions seront determinees), les employes, doivt la nomination est soumise k I'approbation du ministre ; une fois cette f ornjalite rempUe, ils ne peuvent ^tre r6voques que par le ministre, sur le rapport du conservatoire. Art. 8. Notre Ministre de I'lnstruction Publique est charg6 de faire tousles r^glements n^ceasaires en ce qui concerne I'administration generate et la police interieure.de T'etabli^T sement ; il demeure en outre charge de I'ex^cution de la presente ordonoancg. Fait ^ Paris, le 14 Novembre 1832. (signe) Louis-PMUp^^ Par le Roi : Le Ministre Secretaire d'Etat ajui departement de I'lnstruction Publique. (sign!) Guisot^ RfeGLEMENT. Le Ministre Secretaire d'Etat au departement de I'lnstruction Publique, Vu Particle 8 de I'Ordonnance Royale du 14 Novembre 1832 ; Vu le projet de r^glement presente par le conservatoire de la Biblioth^que Royale ; Arr^te : Titre Pekmiek. — Administeation. Chapitee Peemiee. — Personnel de F Administration. Art. 1. La Biblioth^que Royale est divisee en quatre departements : l". Des livres imprimis ; 2«. Des manuscrits, chartes et diplomes ; 3°. Des medailles, pierres erayees et antiques ; 4". Des estampes, cartes geographiques et plans. Art. 2. Les departements sont divises en sections, fixees a deux, pour lesi"^ 3? et.4? de- partements ; a trois, pour le 2e. II y a dans chaque departement autant de conservateurs que de sections : il peut y avoir un ou plusieurs conservateurs-adjoints ; mais, dans, aucun cas, ils ne peuvent exceder le nombre dfes sections du departement auquel ils appartiennent. Art. 3. Les conservateurs composent le conseil d'adniinistration de, la biblaQth^ue;.jce conseiLporte le titre de Conservatoire. Art. 4. Les conservateurs-adjoints prennent part aux seances de conservatoire av.ec voix cousiultative. Art. 5. En I'absence des conservateurs d'un departement, . les conservateursTadjointapeur vent avoir voix deliberative, mais il doivent y ^tre autorises par une decision du ministre sur la proposition du conservatoir^e. Art. 6. Le conservatoire forme dans son sein un bureau compose du directeurr^president, d'un vice-president et d'un secretaire. Art. 7. Le vice-president et le secretaire sont eius ^ la majorite des suffrages dans la premiere seance de I'annee ; le vice-president peut etre reeiu pour une annee seulejnent ; le secretaire est toujours reeiigible. Art. 8. Le directeur notifie les decisions du conservatoire h. ceux qu'elles concernentj et exerce les autres fonctions qua lui conffere I'article 5 de I'ordonnance du 14 Novembre, liS^a* par le troisieme paragraphe Art. 10. Le secretaire tient un proc^s-verbal de chaque seance du conservatoire, et le fait transcrire sur un registre ^ cet usage apr^s qu'il a ete approuve par le conservatoire. Les proc^s-verbaux sont signees du directeur et du secretaire. Art. n . Les lettres que le president ecrit comme organe du conservatoire, soit au ministre, soit k des particuliers, sont transcrites sur un registre de correspondance sous la surveillance du secretaire. Art. 12. Le con^ervateur-adjoint charge des fonctions de tresorier dresse les 4^ats,de comptes, revolt les fonds et effectue les payenients. Art. 13. Leslogements particuliers disponibles dans les batiments dela biblioth^vie sont repartis entre les conservateurs d'apr^s le rang d'anciennete, par decision du, ministre, sur I'avis du conservatoire. , 479. 3 '' 4 ^^ *4' 408 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 13. Ordonnance du Roi et Reglement concernant la Bib- lioth^que Royale. Art 14. Les conservateurs-adjoints et les employes peuvent 6tre aussi loges dans les dits bS,timents. L'afFectation des logeraents vacarits est d6terminee par le miiiistre sur la proposition du conservatoire, d'apres le grade, I'anciennete, I'utilit^ et la nature des services. Chapitre II. — Dispositions Generales, Art. 1,5. Le conservatoire s'assemble une fois par semaine k Tissue de la seance de la bibliotheque. En cas d'urgence, le directeur-president le convoque extraordinairement. Art. 16. Le conservatoire ne peut deliberer qu'autant que la moitie, plus un, de ses membres sont presents. Art. 17. En cas d'absence de tous les conservateurs d'un departement, le conservatoire ajourne toute decision qui interesse ce departement ; et si I'absence se prolongeait, il y serait pourvu conformement a I'article 2 de I'ordonnance du 14 Novembre 1832. Art. 38. Les conservateurs, dans leur departement respectif, ont la police interieure et la surveillance gfenerale du service ; ils prescrivent aux conservateurs-adjoints et aux employes les travaux qu'ils jugent necessaires. Art. 19. Dans les departements oii le pr^t est permis, les conservateurs sont personnelle- ment responsablesdesobjets appartenant^ la bibliotheque, qui auraient ete pretes au dehors, et qui viendraient h se perdre parceque les formalit^s auxquelles ce pret est soumis n'au- raient pas ete observees. Cette responsabilit^ s'exercera apres une expertise de la valeur desdits objets faite en conservatoire et approuvee du ministre. Art. 20. II est interdit aux conservateurs de faire des collections d'objets rares dans le genre de ceux qui appartiennent au departement qui leur est confie. Art. 21. Aucun des employes ou auxiliaires ne peut 6tredestitu6 qu'apr^s avoir ^te invito h fournir ses moyens de defense. Si le conservatoire prononce la destitution, sa decision est soumise k I'approbation du ministre. Art. 22. Cependant, si Tun des employes se rendait coupable d'une faute grave, les con- servateurs dont il depend peuvent lui interdire provisoirement Tentree du depot; mais ils en rendent compte au conservatoire dans une seance convoqu6e k cet eiFet. Art. 23. Les surnum^raires ne peuvent ^tre revoques que par le conservatoire, sur Tavis motive des conservateurs du departement auquel ils appartiennent. Art. 24. Tous les objets qui entrent dans la Bibliotheque Royale, soit a titre de present, Boit a titre d'acquisition, sont inscrits dans chaque departement sur un registre uniquement consacre a cet usage, et destine a serrir, en cas de besoin, de pifece justificative. Art. 25. Tout livre, tout manuscrit, toute pi^ce de musique, estampe et carte, qui entre dans la Bibliotheque Royale, doit 6tre estampille dans le plus bref delai. Chapitiie III. — Depenses, Achats, Echanges, S;c. Art. 26. II n'est fait aucune depense dans un departement sans qu'elle ait ete discutee et autorisee par le conservatoire, et visee par le directeur. Art. 27. Les etats des depenses, discutees et autoris^es, sont soumis a I'approbation du ministre. Art. 28. Lorsque les conservateurs croient devoir proposer d'acquerir des objets rares ou utiles, qui manquent k leur departement, ils accompagnent leur proposition de tous les de- tails necessaires sur la nature, Timportance, le nombre et le prix de ces objets. Le conservatoire discute la convenance de Tacquisition, et, s'il Tapprouve, il autorise les conservateurs a la faire, a des conditions d^terminees. Art. 29. Quant aux livres imprimes, independamment des propositions isolees que les conservateurs de ce departement peuvent ^tre dans le cas de faire pour Tachat d'un livre rare ou utile, ils presentent au conservatoire, dans la premiere seance de chaque trimestre, une liste d'ouvrages importants, soit anciens, soit nouveaux, qui manquent k la bibliotheque. Cette liste discutee, et augmentee de tous les ouvrages qui seraient proposes par d'autres naembres, est d^finitivement arret6e, et les conservateurs font les diligences n6cessaires pour se procurer les livres qui y sont portes. La liste de ceux qu'on n'a pu acquerir dans le cours du trimestre est reproduite le trimestre suivant et combinee avec la liste nouvelle. Art. 30. Aucun echange ne peut avoir lieu avant que les conservateurs du departement que cet echange interesse en aient fait leur rapport au conservatoire, dont Tavis motive est transmis au ministre. L'echange ne s'effectue que sur I'autorisation pr6alable du ministre. Art. 31. II est dresse un etat general du mobilier de la bibliotheque. Cet 6tat est rev'u tous les ans, et Ton y marque les changements survenus dans le cours de Tannee. Art. 32. Les conservateurs, dans leur departement respectif, surveillent Teiitretien du mobiher, et font au directeur les demandes de reparations ou d'augmentations necessaires. ' Titre IL— Service Public. Chapitre I.— Dispositions Generales. Art. 33. Le service public de la Bibliotheque Royale comprend: 1*. La lecture et Tetude a Tinterieur; 2°. Le pr6t au dehors ; 3". La visite dans un but de curiosite. Art. 34. Tous les jours, except^ les Dimanches et f6tes, la bibliotheque est ouverte pour etude, de dix heures a trois heures, en toute saison. Art. 35. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 409 -Art. 35. La conservation et la bonne tenue des objets qui fornaent les quartre d6partements . j- vr de la biblioth^que exigeant de soins parti culiers et des travaux interienrs incompatibles -^PP^" "^^* ^ "- ^3- avec le service public, il est pris un temps, k deux ^poques de I'ann^e, pour faire une revue Ordonnance du Roi generale des objets, pour battre, epousseter les livres, intercaler les nouvelles acquisitions, et Reglement recoUer les estampes, &c. En consequence, la biblioth^que est fermee, 1° pendant la quin- concernant la Bib- zaine de P^ues; 2° depuis le ler Septembre jusqu'au 15 Octobre inclusivement. liotheque Royale. Art. 36. Dans les departements oii le public n'est pas admis indistinctement les jours consacres au travail, les membres des deux. Chambres et ceux de I'Institut son( admis en se faisant connaitre. Art. 37. Dans cliaque departement il sera etabli, k mesure que les localites le permettront, une salle d'etude oii les travailleura seuls seront admis. Art. 38. Les objets dont se compose chaque departement ne seront communiques que dans cette salle. Art. 39. Les personnes admises les jours de travail ne doivent ni se promener, ni causer, ni rien faire qui puisse distraire les travailleurs. ' Art. 40. II leur est interdit de prendre elles-mSmes dans les armoires, tablettes ou porte- feuilles, les objets qu'elles desirent avoir, et d'en faire la recherche dans les catalogues, inventaires ou bulletins. - Art. 41. II est egalement interdit de prendre les objets deposes sur les bureaux des con- servateurs ou des employes. ■ Art. 42. Une demi-heure avant la cloture, on ne communique plus rien. Art. 43. Les travailleurs sont tenus de placer le papier sur lequel ils ecrivent ou dessi- nent, ^ cote du manuscrit, du livre ou du portefe.uilie qui leur est communique. Art. 44. Personne ne sort de la biblioth^que avec un livre, un cahier -de croquis ou un portefeuiile, sans avoir pris un " laissez passer," qu'on delivre apr^s s'^tre assure qu'ils ne contiennent rien qui appaftienne a I'un des depots. Art. 45. On n'entre point dans les salles avec de la lumi^re, excepte dans le cas ou la surete de I'etablissement pourrait ^tre compromise. Chapitre IL — ^Lecture et Etude d, VInterieur. \ I. Imprimes. Art. 46. La salle de lecture contient un choix d'ouvrages, qui comprend les dictionnaires de toute esp^ce ; les meilleures editions et traductions des auteurs classiques anciens et modernes; les trait^s ^lementaires et g6n6raux de toutes les sciences; les ceuvres com- pletes des principaux polygraphes dans toutes les langues ; les meilleurs ouvrages d'histoire ancienne et moderne, generale et particuliere>; les principaux voyages dans les diverses par- ties du monde; les collections academiques, les meilleurs .recueils p^riodiques litteraires et scientifiques, Frangais et Strangers, Art. 47. Les romans, les pieces de theS,tre d6tach6es, les ouvrages de litterature l^g^re ou frivole, les brochures politiques ou de circonstance ne font point partie de la biblioth^que de la salle de lecture. On ne communique ces ouvrages qu'a ceux qui les demandent pour un travail litteraire ou historique dont ils indiquent I'objet aux conservateurs. Art. 48. Les enfans au-dessous de 15 ans sont admis dans la salle de lecture en pro- dui^ant un bulletin portant leur nom et leur adresse, delivre et signe soil par un de leurs parents, soit par un chef d'^tablissement d'instruction publique, qui garantissent que les livres peuvent ^tre communiques avec confiance. Art. 49. Les jeunes gens entre 15 et 20 ans sont admis avec un bulletin du m6me genre, ou seulement avec leur carte d'admission h quelque ecble sp6ciale. Art. 50. A I'entree de salle de lecture est un bureau oii chacun, apr^s avoir consulte le conservateur s'il le juge necessaire, est tenu d'ecrire sur un feuillet de papier tout prepar6, un bulletin portant son nom, son adresse, et le livre qu'il desire. Art. 51. Ce bulletin num^rote est garde par le conservateur, et n'est remis au lecteur que quand celui-ci rapporte le livre au bureau, et apr^s verification faite de I'etat dans lequel il le rend. Art. 52. En sortant de la salle, on remet au gardien de la porte le bulletin qui a ^te rendu, ce qui garantit que les livres prSt6s out ete remis au bureau du conservateur. Art. 53. En regie g6nerale, on ne communique qu'un ouvrage a la fois ; les conservateurs sont juges des cas d'exception. Art. 54. . Des tables particuli&res sont affect^es a la lecture des livres k figures, rares et precieux. Sur cette table I'usage de I'encre est interdit. Les extraits de textes ou les copies de gravures ne peuvent se faire qu'au crayon et sans I'emploi de la mie de pain. Art 55. D'aatres tables particuliferes sont affectees k la lecture des recueils periodiques, des journaux litteraires et scientifiques. Art. 56. Lorsqu'un livre demand^ n'est point dans la salle de lecture, les conservateurs font passer le bulletin au conservateur-adjoint ou a I'employe charge de la partie de la biblioth^que dans laquelle I'ouVrage doit se trouver. Art. 67. Un quart d'heure avant la cl6ture, tous les employes repartis entre les diverses , sections du departement des imprimis, se r^unissent dans la salle de lecture autour du bureau des conservateurs, pour les aider dans la remise des buUetiris et la verification de I'etat des livres rendus. § II. Manuscrits. Art. 58. A moins d'une autorisation expresse accordee par le Miiiistre de I'Instruction Publique, del'avisdu conservatoire, nul manuscrit ne pourra ^tre consulte que sur place et, si le cas I'exige, en la presence d'un des conservateurs ou d'un employe design^ par lui. 479. 3G Art. 59. 410 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 13. Ordonnance du Roi et Reglement concernant la Bib- liotheque Royale. Art. 59. Les employes n'ouvrent aucune armoire sans I'autorisation des conservateurs. Art. 60. Le caique et I'emploi des couleurs sont interdits sans exception. An. 61. Les manuscrits de la Biblioth^que Royale ^tant la propriete de l'6tat, qui s'est reserve les droits assures par le decret du ler Germinal an XIII. aux propri^taires d'ouvrages posthumes, nul ne peut copier, publier, ni faire imprimer aucun des manuscrits sans une autorisation expresse du Gouvernement. Ceux qui voudront obtenir cette autorisation adresseront leur demande au conservatoire, qui la transmettra, avec son avis, au Ministre de I'lnstruction Publique. Art. 62. Pour les extraits d'un manuscrit, ou la copie de quelques portions ou passages seulement, il sufSra de I'autorisation des conservateurs,- qui pourront, s'ils le jugent a propos, en rpferer au conservatoire, § III. Midailks, ^c. . Art. 63. Les jours de travail, le cabinet est ouvert pour les personnes qui auraient a y faire des recherches ou des etudes speciales. Pour y ^tre admises, elles adressent, la veille, ^ I'un des conservateurs, un bulletin portant leur nom, leur adresse, et I'indication de la classe de monuments qu'elles veulent consulter. Ce bulletin est depose au cabinet, et le lendemain ces personnes sont admises en presentant un bulletin semblable & celui qu'elles ont adresse la veille. Art. 64. Les medailles, pierres gravees et autres objets faisant partie du cabinet, ne sont communiques qu'en presence et sous I'inspection d'un conservEtteur ou d'un employ^. Art. 65. On ne communique a la fois_ qu'une seule tablette d,e jaaedailles, et, autaut que possible, qu'un seul des autres objets de la collection. Art. 66. Aucune des personnes attachees au departement ne peut copier ou faire copier, dessiner ou mouler les objets qu'il contient sans I'agrement des conservateurs, qui en refere- ront, s'ils le jugent ^ propos, au conservatoire. § IV. Estampes, Cartes et Plans. SECTION DES ESTAMPES. Art. 67. On n'est admis, les jours de travail, qu'au moyen d'une carte delivree par le conservateur. Art. 68. Celui qui desire obtenir cette carte en fait la demande par ecrit, en indiquant son nom, son adresse, le genre d'etude auquel il se livre, ou I'artiste dont il frequente 1 'atelier. Les noms des personnes qui I'ont obtenue sont inscrits sur un registre particulier. Les cartes sont personnelles : elles seront retirees a celui qui les preterait ou qui ferait un mauvais usage des objets communiques: Art. 69. II est expressement interdit de calquer. L'usage de I'encre et des couleurs est egalement interdit. Art. 70. On ne communique aucune collection de gravures avant qu'elle ait ete assemblee et reliee. SECTION DES CARTES GEOGRAPHIQUES ET PLANS. Art. 71. Le public est admis librement dans les salles pour consulter les cartes, plans et collections geographiques. Art. 72. Les travailleurs peuvent 6tre admis a calquer avec I'autorisation du conservateur, a la condition de se servir du crayon et de n'employer que du papier vegetal, h la gelatine ou de glace, et non du papier gras ou huile. Art. 73. II est interdit de placer le compas sur les cartes geographiques. Chapitre III. — Prtt au Dehors. Art. 74. On ne pr^te au dehors aucun des objets appartenant aux departements des me- dailles, et des estampes, cartes et plans. Art. 75. Dans le departement des manuscrits, on ne pr^te aucun de ceux qui sont remar- quables par leur anciennete, leur importance ou leur raretfe. Art. 76. Dans le departement des imprimes, les ouvrages formant la biblioth^que de la salle de lecture, les livres rares, de luxe ou a figures, les editions du quinzi^me si^cle, les livres sur yelin ou sur grand papier, ceux dont les reliures sont precieuses ou remarquables, les collections ou parties de collections considerables, ne sont jamais prates au dehors. Art. 77. Les journaux litteraires et scientifiques ne sont prates qu'apr^s avoir ete reunis par volume ou par annee, et relies. Art. 78. Aucun livre, journal ou piece de musique n'est pr^te avant d'avoir ete estampille, et, sauf de rares exceptions dont les conservateurs sont juges, avant d'avoir 6te inscrit au catalogue. Art. 79. Les objets des departements ou le pr6t est permis ne sont pr6tes qu'^ des per- sonnes d'une solvabilite notoire, connues pour se livrer a des travaux utiles, et qui pre- sentees par les conservateurs et agrees par le conservatoire, ont ete inscrites sur un registre particulier, avec indication de leurs nom, profession et demeure. ° Art 80. Tout ouvrage imprime ou manuscrit prete est inscrit sur deux registres, disposes par ordre alphabetique, I'un pour les noms des auteurs ou les titres d'ouvrage I'autre pour les noms des emprunteurs. ' Art. 81. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 4n Art. 81. Les conservateurs deteimineront le temps pendant lequel les livres ou les manu- a a- n ^^^ scrits seront prates. II en est fait mention sur le registre a I'article du prSt. Appenaix,iNo. 13. Art. 82. Les conservateurs ont touj ours le droit delesfairerentrer sur-le-champ, quandl'in- Ordonnance du Roi teret de la science ou du service I'exige, sauf a les prater de nouveau, Quiconque ne et Reglement r^pondrait pas a leur appel serait prive de I'avantage du pret pendant un temps plus ou concernant la Bib- moins long, au jugement du conservatoire. liotheqiie Royale. Art. 83. Les personnes inscrites sur le registre, qui desirent emprunter un livre, remet- — tent la veille, dans une boite destinee a cet usage, un bulletin portant leur nom, leur adresse, et le titre de I'ouvrage qu'elles demandent. Le lendemain, les livres sont remis, soit k I'emprunteur, qui signe le registre, soit a un tiers, qu'il aura autorise par ^crit k signer le recepisse pourlui; leur bulletin reste depose comme pifece justificative pour etre rendu lorsqu'on rapporte I'ouvrage, et apres verification f'aite de I'etat de conservation de cet ouvragje. Art. 84. Ceux qui ne peuvent rendre les livres qui leur ont et6 prates, ou qui ne les rendent qu'en mauvais etat, sont tenus de les remplacer k leurs frais. Art. 85. Les savants Strangers, pendant leur sejour a Paris, ne peuvent emprunter ni livres ni manuscrits que sous la caution formelle et par ecrit de I'ambassadeur, du ministre ou du consul du pays auquel ils appartiennent, ou d'apr^s une recommandation expresse du ministre des affaires 6trang^res. Art. 86. II n'est prfile k la m6me personne qu'un seul volume manuscrit a la fois. Les conservateurs du departement des manuscrits sOnt juges des cas d'exception. Art. 87. Tons les manuscrits, sans exception, pr^t^s, et depuis quelque epoque "qu'ils I'aient ete, doivent 6tre remis, ou au moins representes, chaque annee, pour I'epoque des vacances, c'est-a-dire avant le 1°' Sej)tembre. Art. 88. Toutes les personnes attachees a la Bibliotheque Royale sont egalement soumises aux dispositions qui reglent le pret au dehors. Chapitre IV. — Visite des Collections dans un But de Curiosite. Art. 89. Le public est admis indistinctement a visiter les collections le Mardi et le Ven- dredi de chaque semaine. Art. 90. II n'est point admis dans les salles d'etude, exclusivement destinees aux tra- vailleurs. Art. 91. Dans les salles ou il est admis, on n'ouvre aucune armoire, on ne communique aucun des objets qu'elles contiennent. Art. 92. On emp^che qu'il ne se forme devant les armoires ou les montres vitrees aucun rassemblement qui puisse en interdire la vue au reste du public, ou favoriser de mauvaises intentions. Art. 93. Dans le departement des estampes, jusqu'a ce que le local permette d'y etablir , une salle oii sera exposee une suite des plus belles gravures ranges par ordre chronologique, et formant une histoire de I'art, et en outre, une salle d'6tude o^ les travailleurs seuls seront admis, on continuera de communiquer aux curieux, les jours publics, les portefeuilles et col- lections que poss^de le departement. TiTRE III. — EMPLOY]fes, AUXILIAIRES, ET SuRNUM^RAIRES. Chapitre I. — Leurs Fonctions. Art. 94. Dans chaque departement les employes, .auxiliaires, et surnumeraires sont places sous I'autorite immediate des conserva,teurs. Art. 95. Ils sont tenus de se rendre regulierement a leur poste tous les jours avant I'ouver- ture de la stance, et d'y rester jusq'a la fin. Art. 96. Ils ne peuvent s'absenter sans la permission d'un des conservateurs de leur de- partement respectif : s'ils sont retenus pour cause de maladie, ou par tout autre empSche- ment legitime, ils doivent leur en donner avis. Art. 97. II est tenu dans chaque departement un registre de presence sur lequel les em- ployes, les auxiliaires, et les surnumeraires, eL inesure qu'ils arrivent, inscrivent leurs noms. Art. 98. Ce registre est clos ^10 heures par un des conservateurs. Un releve nominatif est mis tous les trois mois sous les yeux du conservatoire. Art. 99. lis s'occupent exclusivement de ce qui concerne leur service ; pendant la duree des stances, ils s'abstiennent de tout travail qui y serait etranger. Art. 100. Ils sont charges de faire observer les articles de police interieure detailies au titre precedent, et specialement de surveiller avec la plus grande attention les personnes auxquelles il a ete confie quelque livre, recueil, carton, tablette de medailles, &c. Art. 101. lis ne communiquent aucun objet que par I'ordre des conservateurs. Art. 102. Apr^s chaque seance, ils remettent en place les livres et autres objets commu- niques aux travailleurs. Art. 103. Independamment du service public, ils sont charges de surveiller les travaux des gardens de service. / Chapitre II. — Conditions pour arriver aux Places d' Auxiliaires et d' Employes. Art. 104. Conformement k I'article 7 de I'ordonnance, portant que les " conservateurs presentent un certain nombre d'employes en qualite de surnumeraii%s, lesquels, apres les 479. '* 3 G 2 epreuves 412 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 13. et Ileglement concernant la Bib- liotheque Royale. epreuves convenables, sont nommes auxiliaires ,• puis, a la suite d'un concours etabli entre eux, appel^s au titre d'employes," rexamen des surnumeraires qui doivent passer auxili- Ordonnance du Roi aires, est fait par les conservateurs du departement auquel ils dorvent appartenir. Le re- "" " " sultat de rexamen est mis sous les yeux du conservatoire. Art. 105. Pour tous les departements, except^ pour celui des estampes, cartes et plans, la connaissance des langues anciennes est la premiere condition exig6e. Independamment de cette condition commune, les surnumeraires, selon le departement auquel ils se destinent, auront a satisfaire a d'autres conditions sp^ciales. -Art. 106. Pour le departement des manuscrits, ils doivent ^tre versus dans la lecture des manuscrits qui dependent de la section a laquelle ils veulent 6tre attaches. Art. 107. Pour le departement des medailles, ils doivent avoir une connaissance suffi- sante de la disposition du cabinet, et s'6tre exerces a lire les 16gendes des medailles ; ils doivent etre en etat de classer les medailles et les autres monuments selon leur epoque et leurs sujets. Art. io8. Pour le departement des imprimes, ils sont examines sur la bibliographie ; ils doivent bien connaitre la distribution materielle du departement. La connaissance des langues modernes est un motif de preference, ainsi que le zele et la ponctualite qu'ils ont montres dans leurs fonctions de surnumeraires. Art. 109. Pour le departement des estampes, cartes et plans, Dans la section des estampes, ils sont interroges sur I'histoire de la gravure, et princi- palement sur la connaissance materielle des estampes, sur I'art de distinguer les maitres ; Dans la section des cartes geographiques et plans, 1° sur la geographie generale, 2° sur le classement auquel sont assujetties les collections de cette section. Art. 110. Quant au concours entre les auxiliaires pour les places d'employes, il consiste dans un certain nombre de questions choisies par les conservateurs et sur lesquelles les can- didats repondent, soit verbalement, soit par ecrit. Elles roulent sur les connaissances scientifiques relatives au departement auquel les auxiliaires sont attaches. Le concours a lieu devant le conservatoire. TiTRE IV. — Des Gak§ons de Service et Poetiers. Chapitre I. — Des Gar^ons de Service. Art. 111. Les garcons de service sont charges, sous les ordres'des conservateurs et sous la surveillance des employes, de tous les soins et travaux relatifs a laproprete dans les divers departements auxquels ils sont attaches. Art. 112. Neanmoins ils sont tenus deconcourir indistinctement, lorsque le cas I'exige, au service general de I'etablissement. Art. 113. Ceux du departement des antiques ne vaquent k leurs travaux qu'en presence d'un conservateur ou d'un employe. Art. 114. Tous les gargons de service se rendent ^ leur poste tous les jours, et ils y restent pendant toute la duree de la seance. Art. 115. Apr^s la cloture, ils travaillent aux operations de rangement, de mise en place et de mouvement quelconque qu'exige le besoin du service, et cela durant tout le temps juge necessaire par les conservateurs. Art. ] 16. II leur est defendu de recevoir aucune gratification des personnes que la curio- site ou I'amour de I'etude attire a la bibliothfeque. Toute infraction a cet 6gard pourrait 6tre suivie de la revocation. Art. 117. II y a un chef de service, qui pourra ^tre pris parmi les gargons, et qui, en cette qualite, porte un double galon sur chaque manche de son habit de livree,; il recoit un traitement sup6rieur a. celui des autres gargons de service, et il est loge dans I'enceinte de I'etablissement. Art. 118. Le chef de service est charge de la surveillance des cours, vestibules, escaliers et autres lieux non fermes. II y fait une ronde trois fois par jour, savoir, a sept heures du matin en hiver, a cinq heures en ete, a la nuit tombante fet a minuit, pour s'assurer que tout est dans I'ordre, que les portes sont bien closes, et que rien ne fait craindre pour la surete de I'etablissement. Art. iig. II veille ace que I'eclairage soit bien fait, et a ce que le frottage et le balayage soient reguli^rement executes ; et il exerce generalement sa surveillance sur le service des gargons de salle et des portiers. Art. 120. II surveille le reservoir de la grande cour et celui qui est plac6 dans le local occupe par la section des cartes geographiques et plans ; il s'assure qu'ils renferment une quantite d'eau sufEsante, soit pour les besoins de I'etablissement, soit pour les secours en cas d'incendie. Art. 121. Tous les matins, avant dix heures, le chef de service se rend chez le directeur, ou, en cas d'emp^chement de celui-ci, chez le vice-president, pour recevoir ses ordres. Art. 122. Pendant les stances du conservatoire, il se tient a portee de recevoir des ordres et de les transmettre a qui de droit. Art. i23.Xrn des gar§ons de service est charge de toutes les commissions necessaires pour I'etablissement. Art. 124. Les menues depenses pour achat de balais, cire a parquet, linge, &c.,.sont faites par le chef de service, d'aprfes I'usage suivi a cet egard. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 413 Chapitee II. — Portiers. Art. 125. La porte royale, rue de Richelieu, etant destinee au service public, est ouverte Appendix, No. 13. Ordonnance du Roi et Reglement concernant la Bib- tous les jours avant dix heures du matin jusqu'^ trois heutes, en toute saison Art. 126. Les Dimanches et ffites elle est fermee toute la journ6e. Art. 127. Le gardien de cette porte se tient en dehors de son loarement, depuis I'ouverture f°""™ant la Bib .delabiblioth^quejusqu'aiacl6ture. ho thegue Royal e. Art. 128. II surveille attentivement les personnes qui entrent et qui sortent, et, en.aucun ~ temps, il ne laisse sortir ni livre, ni carton, ni aucun autre objet sans un " laissez passer" signe d'un conservateur. II garde ces " laissez passer," et il les remet le soir au conservateur qui les a delivres. Art. 129. II fait deposer k la porte armes, Cannes et parapluies, et ne regoit aucune retri- bution pour la garde de ces objets. Toute infraction a cet egard pourrait 6tre suivie de la revocation. Art. 130. La porte *ur la rue Neuve-des-Petits-Champs est fermee tous les jours pen- dant toute la journee. , Art. 131. Apr^s minuit elle est fermee a la grosse clef. Art. 132. Le portier de la maison rue Colbert surveille les personnes qui entrent au cabinet des m6d allies ou qui en sortent ; il exige un "laissez passer"" de celles qui portent un livre-, un carton ou un objet quelconque. Art. .133. La porte interieure, qui communique de la cour du petit hotel.avec le batiment de la biblioth^que, est fermee tous les jours pendant toute la journ6e. Les conservateurs, les conservateurs-adjoints et les employes loges dans I'etablissement en ont seuls la clef. Les conservateurs seuls ont la clef de la double serrure de cette porte. Art. 134. Pendant toute la duree du service public, le chef de service, les gardens, les portiers sont tenus de porter la livree qui leur est assignee. Art. 135. Le present reglement sera adresse au conservatoire de la Biblioth^que Royale, pour recevoir son execution a compter de ce jour. Paris, le 26 Mars 1833. (signe) Guizot. Appendix, No 14. COPY of Mr. Stoma's (Keeper of the Prints and Drawings) Report to the Trustees of Appendix, No. 14, the British Museum, i8 March 1824. ^ , Mr. Smith's Report, Department of Antiquities — Print Room. 18. March 1824. Mh. Smith has the honour to report to the Trustees that yesterday he minutely inspected Mr. Simcoe's Illustrated Books, according to ati order made by the honourable Trustees on Saturday last, and the following is the result of his investigation : The drawings, by the late Mr. Trotter, an artist of very slender abilities, are destitute of almost every topographical requisite. The faces of nearly all the monumental figures have the same cast of features, and the colouring is so gaudy, that most of them might pass for Mr. Fowler's specimens of ancient stained glass ; and he is perfectly satisfied the Antiqua- rian Society would not have chosen Mr. Trotter for their draughtsman. The only rare portraits are three ; viz. two of General Fairfax on horseback, and a head of Bishop Crewe. The drawings in Lysons's Environs are also very bad, by an artist, now dead, of the name of Ravenhill. It is true that many of the mezzotinto portraits would have been useful in the Museum Collection, but the greater part of them are not only folded but doubled, so that they are much reduced in value ; indeed several are totally spoiled. That Mr. Simcoe's books, offered to the Museum, might have cost him much more than 500Z., is Mr. Smith's firm belief; but he must honestly state, as his duty binds him, that he would not recommend the purchase to the honourable the Trustees. Mr. Smith's feehngs are not hurt in being obliged to make the above statement, as a person has offered the family, who are very poor, double the money for -the collection. (A true copy.) British Museum, 20 Oct. 1835. (signed) John Thomas Smith. J. Forshall, Sec. Appendix, No. 15. MINUTE of the Trustees of the British Museum, dated 18 February 1804, relative Appendix, No. 15. to a Letter from Richard Gough, Esq. At a Committee, the following Letter from Richard Gough, Esq., to Mr. Beloe was laid before the Committee. Gough's Collection. Sir, Desirous to preserve from the fate which too frequently attends suoh articles, the plates of the Sepulchral Monuments of Great Britain, and others which belong to the different ' .479. 303 works 414 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 15. works that I have published, it is my wish to present them to that great national depository, — - the British Museum, subject, however, to one condition, that myself, my representatives, Gough's Collection, or asy person properly authorized by me or them, may, on such application to the Trustees, in Committee, as they may prescribe, have liberty to call for them, singly or all together, for the republication of any of the works to which they severally belong, or for the accom- modation of similar works. Should this proposal meet the approbation of the Trustees, it is my intention, at some future period, to offer to their acceptance what I have the vanity to consider as nearly a complete collection of British Topography, in MSS., printed books, drawings, and prints, on this condition, that it may be preserved altogether in a room, or on the side or sides of a room, on the first floor ; and, as many of the articles are accompanied with loose papers, notes, &c., that they may be exempted from the usual rule of being carried into the Reading Room, but perused in the apartment of the Principal Librarian, who shall deter-: mine on the propriety of making or publishing extracts from the MSS. I am, &c. (signed) R. G. Ordered, That Mr. Beloe acquaint Mr. Gough that the Trustees have thought proper to comply with his request. (Extracted from the Minutes.) J. Forshall, Sec. British Museum, 20 Oct. 1835. Appendix, No. 16. Appendix, No. 16. (!•) — MINUTE of the Trustees of the British Museum on Lord Bridgewater's Bequest, 10 March 1832. Lord Bridgewater's . , _, Bequest. At a Committee, __^ , Resolved, 1. Minute ofTrus- That the dividends arising from the 7,000 Z. bequeathed by Lord Bridgewater should be tees, 10 Mar. 1832^ paid to the Keeper and Assistant Keeper of the Department of Manuscripts, according to the provisions of Lord Bridgewater's will : That the salaries of these officers, paid by the Trustees out of the general fund, should be diminished by the same amount. J. Forshall, Sec. British Museum, 26 June 183,5. i2. Receipts and Payments. (2.) — STATEMENT of the Receipts and Payments on account of the Bridgewater Fund. The General Fund in Account with the Devise of the late Earl of Bridgewater : D^ 1831: Jan. - 5 April 23 July - 5 1832: Jan. - 5 July- 5 1833: Jan. - 5 July - 5 1834: Jan. - 5 July - 5 - - Half year's dividend on 7,000 I. sterling, bequeathed by the late Earl of Bridgewater. and purchased into Three per Cent. Consols Half year's dividend on 5,000 /. sterling, ditto .... Rents of estate at Whitchurch ....... Half year's dividend on 7,000 Z. -..--.. Ditto - ditto - 5,000 ;. - - Ditto - - ditto - 7,000/. Ditto - ; ditto - 5,000 Z. Rents of estate at Whitchurch -..-... Half year's dividend on 7,000/. . - . . . . Ditto - - ditto - 5,000/. -----.. Ditto - - ditto - 7,000/. Ditto - - ditto - 5,000/. Rents of estate at Whitchurch -.--... Half year's dividend on 7,000 /.--..... Ditto - - ditto - 5,000/. • - - . .^ . . Ditto - - ditto - 7,000/. E^tto - - ditto - 5,000/. .... . . Rents of estate at Whitchurch - . . Half year's dividend on 7,000/. ---.... Ditto - - ditto - 5,000/. - . . . , . Balance due to the General Fund - - - . . Total - - £. t. s. 113 10 81 7 28 II 113 10 81 7 113 10 3 81 7 7 23 11 10 113 10 3 81 7 7 113 10 3 81 7 7 25 15 10 153 10 3 81 7 7 113 10 81 7 25 14 113 10 81 7 140 13 1,803 9 1 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 415 t 1829: July - 4 Dec. 12 1830: Aug.- 5 1831: Jan. - 5 Mar. 14 July- 5 1832: Jan. - 5 July - 5 1833: Jan. - 5 July - 5 1834: Jan. - 5 July - 5 C^ Binding MSS. Ditto - Balance of law expenses ....p... - - Dividend on 7,000 U paid, to the keepers of the late Earl of Bridgewater's MSS. Power of attorney .-...-... Dividend on 7,000 i., paid as above - - - Ditto - '- ditto - - ditto Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - - For the purchase of MSS. --..... Binding MSS. - - - - - Dividend on 7,000 /., paid as above - . . . . Ditto - - ditto - -. ditto For the purchase of MSS. .-.--... Binding MSS. Dividend on 7,000 Z., paid as above Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - For the purchase of MSS. Binding MSS. - - Total Appendix, No. 16, ^ Lord Bridgewater's £. s. d. Bequests. 33 2 8 —- 12 19 - 2. Beceipts and , Payments. 3 10 7 113 10 3' 1 1 6 113 10 3 113 10 3 113 10' 3 373 14 6 23 4 11 113 10 3 113 10 3 110 - - 645 113 10 3 113 10 3 240 - - 91 9 6 1,803 9 1 M. Coixtan, Accountant. (3.) — EXTRACTS from the Will and Codicils of the Eaii of Bridgewatee, so far as 3. Extracts from the same concern the Trustees of the British Museum. the Will and Codi- I give and bequeath to the Trustees for the time being of the British Museum at Mon- Brideewater tague House, in London, to be there deposited, preserved and kept for the use of the said Museum, in conformity with the rules, orders and regulations of the said establishment, absolutely for ever, all and every my Collection of Manuscripts, as hereinafter particu- jjjr^lf*''''^ larly described j that is to say, AH the several volumes of manuscripts, and aU papers, parchments, (written or printed,) and all letters, dispatches, registers, rolls, documents, evidences, authorities and signatures, and all impressions of seals and marks, of every description and sort, and of what nature or kind, severally and generally belonging to my Collection of Manuscripts, or in my possession, stamped with my arms or otherwise <(except such letters, notes, papers, &c. as are hereinafter directed to be burned and de- stroyed) [two words cancelled, Bridgewater], in the discretion of my Trustees and Exe- cutors hereinafter appointed ; and also save and except all such letters, papers and writings as are attached to and accompanying the printed books specifically bequeathed by me to the Library at Ashridge, and which s^id last-mentioned letters, papers and writings are also, if I mistake not, stamped with my arms. And I also will and require, that all and every the aforesaid manuscripts, papers, parchments (written or printed), letters, dispatches, registers, rolls, documents, evidences, authorities, signatures, impressions of seals and marks of every description and sort, and every other manuscript or manuscripts appertaining to my said collection whatsoever and wheresoever, or which shall or may hereafter, during my life, be added thereto (but not private letters, notes or memorandums of any sort or kind, which I direct to be burned or destroyed), sliall,'within the space of two years from the day of my decease, be collected and removed to the British Museum as aforesaid, under the particular care, superintendence and direction of Eugene Auguste Barbier, one of my Trustees and Executors hereinafter appointed ; for which particular service I give and be- queath to him the said Eugene Auguste Barbier the sum of 2,000/. sterling. I also give, ■ bequeath and demise unto the said Trustees of the British Museum all my estate, lauds, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, situate in the parish of Whit- church-cum-Marbury, or, in any other parish or place in the counties of Salop or Chester, or in either or both of the said counties, and also all the trees growing thereon, and all the seats, sittings and pews in the parish church of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury aforesaid, all or any of which I shall or may have bought or purchased, and which now belong to me by right of purchase, descent or otherwise. To have and to hold the same estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances to them the said Trustees of the said British Museum for the time being for ever, upon the trusts nevertheless, and to and for the ends, intents and purposes hereinafter particularly mentioned, expressed and declared; that is to say, that the trees growing on the aforesaid estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, shalLnot be cut or brought down or dusstroyed, but shall 479- ' 3 G 4 and 416 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. l6, 3. Extracts from the Will and Codi- cils of the Earl of Bridgewater. Extract from the 1st Codicil. Extract from the 4th Codicil. and may be suffered to grow during tlieir natural life, and that the smaller trees only ^^y be thinned here and there, with care and judgment, so as to promote the growttt ot tne larger trees; and that the same estate, lands, parcels of land, gTOund, ^hereditaments ana appurtenances, seats, sitting or pews, or any part thereof, shall not be susceptible ot being let, underlet or rented, by or to any person or persons who shall hold, have, take 01 leni any estate, farm, lands or property of or from the family of Egerton, or of or from any person or persons bearing that name, or of or from the Rector of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury afore- said for the time being ; and upoij further trust; that they the said Trustees ot the liritisH Museum for the time being do and shall lay out and apply the rents, issues and protits which shall from time to time arise from and out of the said estate, lands, parcels ot land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, in the purchase of manuscripts for the continual augmentation of the aforesaid Collection of Manuscripts. I further will and direct, that my said Trustees hereinafter appointed, within the space- of 18 calendar months after my de- cease, do lay out and invest in the Three per cent. Consolidated stocks or funds of England, in the names of the Trustees of the British Museum for the time being, or in such names and for such account as the said Trustees shall direct, the sum of 7,00(5 ^. sterling, the in- terest and dividends whereof, as the same shall from time to time become due and payable, I desire and direct shall and may be paid over by the said Trustees to such person or per- sons as shall from time to time be charged with the care and superintendence of the said Collection of Manuscripts. I also give, grant, bequeath and devise unto my Trustees here- inafter appointed, all and singular my house, land, tenements, hereditaments and appurte- nances at or near Little Gaddesden, in the county of Herts, upon trust, that they my said Trustees do and shall, during their joint lives and the life of the survivor of them, let and demise the same for such term or time as they shall think fit, for the best rent that can be had and gotten for the same ; but the same premises, under no circumstances, to be let, underlet or rented by or to any person or persons who shall have, hold, take or rent any estate, farm or property of or from the family of Egerton, or any person or persons beanng that name, and do and shall pay over the rents, issues and profits thereof as and when received to the Trustees for the time being of the British Museum aforesaid, to be laid out and applied by such last-mentioned Trustees in the service and for the continued augmen- tation of the said Collection of Manuscripts ; and from and after the decease of the survivor of them my said Trustees hereinafter appointed, I give and devise the said house, land, tenements, hereditailients and appurtenances unto and for the use of the proprietor or pro- prietors of the manor and estate of Ashridge, his heirs and assigns for ever. And as to all the rest, residue and and remainder of my real and personal estate and effects, of every nature and kind soever and wheresoever situate, not hereinbefore disposed of, or availably so for the purposes intended, I give, devise and bequeath the saUie to my said Trustees, upon trust, that they my said Trustees do pay over and transfer the same to the said Trustees of the British Museum, and do otherwise render the same available for the, service of, and towards maintaining, preserving, keeping up, improving, augmenting aiid extending, as opportunities may ofier, my said Collection of Manuscripts so deposited in the British Museum as aforesaid, in the most advantageous manner, according to their judgment and discretion. And whereas I have by my said Will given a discretionary power to my Executors therein named to burn and destroy such letters, notices, memorandums and papers as it would be inexpedient to have preserved with my Collection of Manuscripts at the British Museum ; Now I do will and desire that such, on the cover or covers of which I have written " to be; . burnt, and not opened," shall not be at any time opened, but be burnt and destroyed un- opened, as soon as conveniently may be after my decease. Whereas in and by my said Will I gave and devised unto the Trustees of the British Museum for the time being all my estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, situate in the parish of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury, or in any other parish or place in the counties of Salop and Chester, or in either or both of the said counties; and also all the trees growing thereon, and all the seats, sittings and pews in the parish church of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury aforesaid, upon trust, that the trees growing on the aforesaid estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, should not be cut or brought down or destroyed, but should and might be suffered to grow during their natural lives ; and that the estate, Iqnds, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, seats, sittings and pews, or any part thereof, should not be susceptible of being let, underlet or rented, by or to any person or persons who should hold, have, take or rent any estate, farm, land or property from the family of Egerton, or of or from any person or persons bearing that name, or of or from the Rector of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury afore- said for the time being ; and upon trust that the rents, issues and profits which should arise from the said estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances should be applied by the said Trustees of the British M useum in the purchase of manuscripts for the augmentation of the aforesaid Collection ; Now I do by this my Codicil will and direct, that after the expiration of 21 years from the day of my decease, and not till after the expiration of the said term, the said restrictions, as concerns the letting, underletting or renting the said estate, lands, grounds, hereditaments and premises, or otherwise, shall cease, determine, and be absolutely null and void; and the said Trustees of the British Museum shall, from and after the expiration of the said term of 21 years from the day of my decease, be at full liberty to lease, let, set or underlet the said estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appuitenances, either in whole or in part, to such person or persons, at or for such rent or rents and for such term of years as to them the said Trustees SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 417 Trustees of the British Museum shall seem meet, applying and expending the rents and Appendix, No, i6. profits thereof in the purchase of manuscripts, for and towards augmenting my said Col- lection of Manuscripts. And it is moreover further my will, tha:t from and after the ex- 3- Extracts from piration of the said term of 21 years after my decease, the said Trustees of the British the Will and Codi- Museumfor the time being shall be at liberty to sell, alienate and dispose of, by public cils of the Earl of auction or private contract, in one or more lot or lots, all and singular or any part or parts ^""gewater. of the same estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, trees ' ~ growing thereon, seats, sittings or pews, to any person or persons whomsoever, for the most money and best price that can be reasonably had or gotten for the same, and do and shall lay out and expend the whole of the net proceeds to arise and be made by any such sale or sales of the said estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, hereditaments and appurtenances, trees, sittings, seats and pews, in the purchase of stock, in their own names, in some or one of the Government stocks or funds of Great Britain, and that they do apply the interest, dividends and proceeds thereof from time to time as they shall become due, or as soon as the said Trustees conveniently can, in the purchase of manuscripts for the augmentation of the aforesaid Collection of Manuscripts. Whereas in and by my said Will I gave and devised unto the Trustees of the British Extracts from the Museum, for the time being, all my freehold estate, lands, parcels of land, ground, heredi- 5'h Codicil, taments and appurtenances situate in the parish of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury, or in other parish or place in the counties of Salop and Chester, or in either or both of them, and all the trees growing thereon, and all the seats, sittings and pews which now belong to me by right of purchase, in the parish church of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury, upon trust, and subject to certain restrictions therein mentioned, and afterwards fully recited in the fourth codicil to my said last Will and Testament : And whereas it has lately been suggested to me that my said estate, lands, parcels of land, ground and hereditaments, or some part or parts, parcel or parcels thereof, is or are or may be copyhold : Now, I do hereby give, grant, devise and bequeath all my estate and hereditaments in the said parish of Whitchurch-cum- Marbury, and all the trees growing thereon, and all the seats, sittings and pews which now belong to me, in the parish church of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury aforesaid, whether the same estates, hereditaments and premises, or any part or parts, parcel or parcels thereof be freehold, copyhold or mixed, or of whatever other nature or tenure the same may be, and the inheritance thereof, and all such estate, term or interest as 1 now have or may die pos- sessed of therein ; and all the rights, members, privileges, appendages and appurtenances thereunto belonging unto the Trustees of the British Museum, and their successors for the time being for ever, to have and to hold the same estates and hereditaments, and all other the premises aforesaid unto the said Trustees of the British Museum and their successors for ever, upon the trusts, and to and for the ends, intents and purposes in my said Will expressed and declared; but nevertheless, with under and subject to such restrictions^ con- ditions, limitations, powers, clauses, matters and things, of, concerning and'relating thereto, as are, and shall be, in and by my said Will and Codicils thereto by me heretofore made, and in and by this my fifth codicil contained, expressed or declared concerning the same. And whereas, by the said fourth codicil to my said last Will and Testament, I did will and direct, that after the expiration of 40 years from the day of my decease, and not until then, the said restrictions as concern the letting, underletting or renting the said estate, heredita- ments and premises in the said parish of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury, should cease, deter- mine and be absolutely void ; and that the said Trustees should, from and after the expiration of the said term of 40 years from the day of.my decease, be at full liberty to lease, let, set or underlet the same estates in the said parish of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury howsoever and to whomsoever to them should seem meet, applying and expending the rents and profits in the purchase of manuscripts towards augmenting my said collection, or should be at liberty to sell and dispose of my said estate, hereditaments and premises by public auction or otherwise, and to lay out the proceeds in the purchase of Government stock, and to apply the interest thereof in the purchase of manuscripts, for the augmentation of my said Collection of Manuscripts : Now, I do by this my codicil, will and direct that the said fourth codicil to my said Will, except as to so much thereof as applies to the removal of the restrictions upon my said estate, hereditaments and premises after the space or term of 40 years from the day of my decease, and except as to the liberty hereafter given to the said Trustees, shall be and remain in full force, power and eifect, but that for and in respect of the said restrictions imposed by my last Will, and which I have in the said fourth codicil thereto directed to cease and determine at the expiration of 40 years after my decease, I hereby will and direct that the said restrictions shall extend, continue and be, according to the intention of my said Will, for and during and until the end of 240 years from the day of my decease ; but that from and after, and not until the expiration of the said 240 years from the day of my decease, the said Trustees of the British Museum shall be at liberty to dispose of my said estate, hereditaments and premises, in manner and for the purposes already in the said fourth codicil to my said last Will declared and expressed concerning the same. Nevertheless, it is my further will and desire that the said Trustees of the British . Museum for the time being, shall be at liberty immediately or at any time as soon after my decease as to them shall seem, to set apart, sell and absolutely dispose of all or any part of my said estate, hereditaments and premises above-mentioned, and in my said last Will and in the said fourth codicil thereto particularly described for the purpose only of the same being founded as and becoming a cemetery or burial ground for the said parish of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury, and for no other purpose or use whatsoever; and to be by the said Trustees legally conveyed to or for the sole use of the parishioners of the said parish as a cemetery or burial ground absolutely and for ever. And whereas it may be fit 479, 3H that 418 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE 3. Extracts from the Will and Codi cils of the Earl of Bridgewater. Extract from the 6th Codicil. Appendix. No. 16. that th6 rector of the said parish of Whitchurch-cum-Marbury for the time being may have frequent opportunities of knowing what may be passing in the said cemetery or burial ground, and liiay be pleased to see the above-mentioned beneficial purposes executed, I will and direct that the same shall be made as near as may be to the hedge or fence which may se'parate the rectorial garden from the fields called Voland's Fields, as contiguous as may be to the glebe lands, and visibly therefrom, and also visible from many parts of the rectory house and garden. And I will and direct that the monies arising from such sale of my said estate, hereditaments and premises, or any part thereof, for the purpose last aforesaid, shall be laid out and invested in the purchase of Government stock, and the interest arising thereon be applied from time to time so and in such manner as I have before in the said fourth codicil to my said last Will directed and declared concerning the same. Whereas in and by my said Will I did give and bequeath all the rest, residue and remainder of my real and personal estate and effects of every nature and kind soever, and wheresoever situate, to my trustees therein named, their executors, administrators and assigns, upon trust to pay over and transfeiSlhe.same to the Trustees of the British Museum for the time being, upon the trusts declared in and by my said Will: Now, I do hereby revoke the said residuary bequest, and I do hereby give to the Trustees for the time being of the British Museum and their successors, a sum amounting to 5,000 /., and not exceeding, in addition to the amount already left and bequeathed to them in and by my said Will; and I do also give and devise to the said Trustees of the British Museum and their suc- cessors for ever, all other my real estates in the kinjjdom of Great Britain only, whether freehold, copyhold or mixed, or of whatever other nature or tenure the same may be, in addition to those which I have already devised to them in and by my said Will and Codicils, or any or either of them, excepting always such as may have been specifically or otherwise disposed.of by me in and by my said Will, or by any codicil or codicils thereto, to any other person or persons whomsoever, upon trust for and towards maintaining, preserving, keeping up, improving, augmenting and extending my Collection of Manuscripts, and for binding the books of my said Collection of Manuscripts, for providing pens, ink and paper ; for defraying the Librarians' salary, and other expenses incident to the care and custody of my said collection in the most advantageous manner, according to their judgment and dis- cretion. J. For shall. Sec. British Museum, 26 June 1835. Appendix, No. 17- Articles purchased at the Sale of JMr. Bullock's Collections. Appendix, No. I7. BILL for Articles Purchased by Dr. Leach, for the British Museum, at the Sale of Mr. Bullock's Collections. Dr. Leach, debtor to Mr. Bullock; bought at the London Museum. 16 29 37 3« 39 43 :46 59 70 99 109 102 52 1 2 3 7 8 12 13 24 31 37 102 110 113 116 117 67 38 -52 108 £. 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 5 9 4 1 3 4 5 5 1 26 10 2 4 1 5 2 3 6 2 - 1 - 15 - 1 - 2 - 11 6 15 - 18 - 18 - 11 6 10 - 9 - 4 - 15 - 8 - 4 - 5 - 15 6 3 - 5 - 7 - 12 6 8 - ] - 6 - 3 - 5- 15 - 43 - 44 - 45 - 46 - 48 - 49 - 61 - 63 - 64 - 68 - 71 - 72 - 78 - 79 - 83 - 5- 89 - 97 - H4 - ti. 100 - 7- 75 - 9- 18 - 20 - 10. 4 - 8 - 13 - 25 - 30 - 33 - 36 - 9- 79 - 86 - £. s. d. 1 11 6 16 5 6 - 17 - 1 5 — 13 — 2 12 - 3 15 - 2 2 — - 10 — 6 16 6 1 1 — 2 14 - 5 i.'i - 8 8 _ 27 - — 2 — — 4 8 - 3 13 6 2 12 2 5 - 1 5 - 1 7 - 1 1 - 1 1 _ 1 6 - - 17 - 1 1 2 6 3 — — 19 - 2 12 6 10. 11. 88 100 124 127 131 141. 144 145 146 149 150 151 98 117 137 152 38 56 67 75 82 89 107 115 119 126 130 138 139 137 |121 19 £. 21 47 4 5 4 2 3 6 3 4 1 1 26 3 10 4 I 1 3 1 2 1 2 I 1 s. d. 5 - 15 - 10 - 5 - 4 8 3 4 3 3 13 5 3 10 10 15 1 1 3 11 12 2 2 4 1 2 10 1 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 419 £. s. d. £. s. «39 - -10 6 68 - 1 1 41 - - 16 - 71 - 2 10 42 - 6 16 6 114 16 16 43 - 10 - - .42 - 3 10 44 - 3 6 - 16. 22 - - 10 45 - 2 i6 - 58 - 1 - 46 - - 19 - i8. 11 - 1 18 47 - 1 4 - 28 - - 10 60 - - 8 — 106 - 11 - 65 - 2 2 - 19- 16 - 5 5 66 - 1 10 - 66 - 1 1 57 - - 16 - 78 - - 12 62 - 5 5 - 79 - - 12 13- 79 - 4 4 - 21. 46 - — 97 - 1 10 - 50 - - 11 113 - 2 12 6 56 - 1 - 121 - 10 - - 57 - 1 10 H- 15 - - 15 r 58 - - 10 19 - 5 10 - 60 - - 12 27 - 1 14 - 67 - - 16 30 - 1. 6 - 68 - - 9 33 - 2 12 6 21. 77 - 1 1 84 94 98 U4 115 123 124 126 100 For some specimens'] of Shells, kc.A from Shetland -J Deduct No. 100,"1 not delivered -j £. £. s. 1 5 1 11 - 17 2 2 - 15 - 12 1 1 1 1 ^ 16 522 13 5 5 527 18 - 16 d. 6 527 2 - Appendix, No. 17. Articles purchased at the Sale of Mr. Bullock's Collections, 26 June 1835. M. Cowtan, Accountant. Appendix, No. 18, ACCOUNT of the Sums Expended on the Publication of the Gallery of Antiqui- ties, and on Mr. Taylor Combe's Catalogue of Greek Coins, from 1809 to 1834, inclusive. Appendix, No. 1 8, Gallery of Anti- quities and Cata- logue of Greek Coins. 1809 l8lO 1811 1812 1813 1814 1815 i8i6 £. s. d. 233 2 - 1817 1,460 15 - 1818 337 4 - 1819 1,087 13 - 1820 614 16 6 1821 568 1 6 1822 867 17 6 1823 157 3 — d. 689 14 1,066 8 462 2 345 17 6 6 331 5 - 524 14 - 1824 1825 1826 1827 1828 1829 1830 £. s. d. 362 5 — 511 16 6 1,528 14 6 1,303 7 5 592 18 - 717 1 6 651 19 3 1831 1832 1833 1834 £. s. 815 - 559 7 333 18 402 3 d. 6 £. 16,525 4 4 Note. — As it wou)d be a work of considerable labour to take out the sums expended upon each volume of the Gallery of Antiquities, as directed by the Committee, the fore- going statement is submitted instead thereof. 26 June 1835. M. Cowtan, Accountant. Appendix, No. 19. STATEMENT of the Expenditure of Major Edwards's Fund. The original Amount of Major Edwards's Legacy to the British Museum, paid by his executors in the year 176^, was 7,000 /., which, by order of the Trustees, was invested in Old South Sea Annuity Stock. The interest appears to have been expended upon Books up to the year 17,85, when the balance of dividends on hand is stated to have been 176Z, 13*. From the latter date the following Statement is taken from the Account Books. Appendix, No. ig. Expenditure of Major Edwards's Fund. 1785: Jan, - 1 April - 5 Oct. - 10 1786 : Anrfl - 5 Oct, - 10 479. Receipt's : 1785 to 1794. Balance of last year's dividends - . - - . Half-year's interest on 10,500^. Old South Sea Annuities Ditto ------ ditto - - . . - ditto Ditto - . - - ditto - - - Half-year's interest on 10,700/. stock 3 H 2 ditto £. «. d,^ 176 13 - 157 10 - 157 10 — 157 10 _ 160 10 — {continued) 420 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 19. ^1^7 ■ April - 5 Expenditure of ^^^- * 10 Major Edwards's i^gs • Fund. April - ' 5 Oct. - 10 1789: April - 5 Oct. - 10 1790: April - 5 Oct. - 10 1791 : April - 5 Oct. - 10 1792: April - 5 Oct. - 10 1793 •■ Feb. - 23 April - 5 Oct. - 10 1794: April - 5 Oct. - 10 1785: Jan. - 17 March 18 May - 14 Nov. - 25 1786: Feb. - 6 July - 24 Oct. - 30 1787: March 5 - - 24 June - 29 1788: April - 5 1789: Jan. - 9 - - 10 July - 25 Aug. - 14 1790: March 29 1791 : March 14 - - 25 May - 30 Oct. - 12 1792: March 2 July 2 1793: Feb. - 22 July - 13 Dec. - 23 179+ : Jan. - 16 Feb. - 8 April - 14 May - 13 Sept. - 5 Dec. - 13 Receipts —continued. Half-year's interest on 10,700 if. stock Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - Ditto - Ditto - Ditto - Ditto - Ditto - Ditto - ditto ditto ditto ditto ditto ditto ditto ditto ditto - - ditto ditto - - ditto Half-year's interest on 11,100/. stock Ditto - ditto - - ditto - Ditto - - ditto - - ditto Ditto - - ditto - ditto Rev. Mr. Peck, his legacy Half-year's interest on 1 1,100 Z. stock Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - Ditto - - ditto - - ditto ------. Ditto - - ditto - - ditto Total - - - £. Payments : ' ~~" X Mr. Elrasley, for books ---- .... Dr. Morton, expended for books and MSS. - - . - - Dr. Morton, expended for books -.----- Ditto ditto - ditto ..---.. Mr. Elmsley, for books Cash for the purchase of 200 I. stock . _ . . - Dr. Morton, expended for books and medals - - - . Dr. Gray, gratuity for arranging birds and insects - - - . Dr. Morton, expended for books, MSS. and coins . - - . Ditto - - - ditto ... - ditto - - - . - Ditto ditto - - ditto Ditto -' - - - ditto .... ditto Mr. Elmsley, for books - . _ . Mr. De Boffe, ditto Mr. Elmsley, ditto ..... Dr. Morton, expended for books, coins and medals Cash for the purchase of 400 1, stock Dr. Morton, expended for-books ... Ditto - dit'to - ditto ... Mr. Charles Davis, for books ... Dr. Morton, expended for books and coins Mr. Ayscough, for a catalogue Mr. Elmsley, for books ----_. Dr. Morton, expended for books - . - . Mr. Elmsley, for books - - . . Ditto - - ditto ---... Ditto - - ditto Mr. Egerton, ditto ---... Dr. Morton, expended for books and MSS. - Ditto, for medals, books and MSS. - . . Ditto, for coins and books Balance carried forward Total £. s. d. 160 10 - 160 10 - 160 10 - 160 10 - i6p 10 - 160 10 - i€o 10 - 160 10 ' - 166 10 - 166 10 - 166 10 - 166 10 - 99 19 ]66 10 i66" 10 166 10 166 10 3,525 12 214- 150 - - 86 14 6 41 18 - 69 4 - H7 15 - 100 - - 200 - - 89 10 6 60 - - 108 14 9 100 - - 58 1 11 24 7 6 82 13 - 100 - - 326 - _ 54 8 6 100 - _ 28 13 6 100 - - 200 - _ 22 17 6 100 - _ 83 1 11, 149 11 6 23 12 6 22 II 6 100 - - 100 - - 100 - - 574 11 11 3,525 12 - SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 421 1795 to 1804. Appendix, No. ig. 17^5: April - 5 Oct. - 10 . 1796: April - 5 Oct. - 10 1797: April '■ 5 Oct. • 10 1798: April - 5 Oct. - 10 1799: April - 5 Oct. - lb 1800: April 5 Oct. - 10 i8oi : April - 5 Oct. - 10 1802 : April - 5 Oct. - 10 1803: April - 5 Oct. - 10 Dec. - 21 1804: April - 5 Oct. - 10 1795 May - July - 13 13 17 1796 Jan. - June - Nov. - 20 18 4 1797 Jan. - '16 1798 March "26 1799 July - 15 Dec. - 14 1800 June - Aug. - " 6 18 1801 Feb. - March July - 14 30 13 Receipts : Balance of Account last year Half-year's interest on 11,100 /. stock - Ditto - - ditto- - - ditto - - - Half-year's interest on 11,600 2. stock - Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - Ditto - Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - • ditto -. ditto Ditto - Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - • ditto - ditto Ditto - Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - - ditto - ditto Ditto - Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - - ditto - ditto 479. Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - . - - - Ditto - ditto - - ditto . . _ - Produce of coins and medals, sold by Leigh, Sotheby & Son Ditto - - ditto - - sold to Young - Half-year's interest on 1 1,600 I. stock - - - . Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - , - Ditto - - ditto - - ditto Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - - - - - Produce of sale of duplicate natural history - . - Half-year's interest on 11,600^. stock - - -' Ditto - - ditto - - ditto - - - - - Total - Payments : Mr. Faulder, for Oriental MSS.. -'---- Mr. Edward Hasted, for MSS. - . - . Leigh & Co., for book^ ...... Cash for the purchase of 500 1, stock - - - - Mr. Halhed, for Oriental MSS. Dr. Morton, expended for books, MSS., coins and medals Mr. Elmsley, for books ...... Dr. Morton, expended for books - . - - - Messrs. Elmsley and Brenner, for books Mr. Hatchet, for a collection of natural history Mr. Millingen, for ancient medals - - , - Mr. Planta, expended for books and MSS. . - - Mr. Planta, expended for books - - . . - Mr. John Nichols, for books -.---- Mr. Planta, expended for books - . . - . Mr. De Boffe, for books Mr. Planta, expended for books . - - - - Mr. Richard Miles, for assisting in the Medal Room 3H3 £. 574 s. d. 11 II - 166' 166 10 - 10 - - 174 174 - - - 174 174 - - - 174 174 - - - 174 174 - - - 174 174 - - - 174 174 502 108 2 - 4 6 - 174 174 - - - 174 174 257 2 3 - 174 174 - r. - £. 4.907 - 8 - 250 63 61 14 - . 344 300 100 7 6 - 29 3 6 - 100 26' 5 - - 700 130 106 - - - 100 20 10 6 - 100 - - 93 5 6 100 - - 42 - - (continued) Expenditure of Major Edwards's fund. 422 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 19. jgg.j ■ Expenditure of Major Kdwurds's Fund. March June - July - Sept. - 12 16 14 12 16 17 1803 : Jan. - 24 April - 15 May ■" H July 9 Aug. - 5 1804 Feb. - 24 June - 8 July - 12 Nov. - H P/iYMENTS — continued. Mr. Planta, expended for books - . . Mr. De Boffe, for books Leigh & Co., for coins - - - _ Dr. Gray, a remuneration - . _ . Pearson & Logan, for coins - - . Leigh & Co., for books - . . . Mr. De Boffe, ditto Mr. Evans, ditto ----.. Dulau & Co. ditto Mr. De Boffe, for books .... Payne & Macinlay, ditto .... Mr. Planta, expended for books, medals and coins Ditto, for books and coins .... Count Bournon, for assisting Dr. Gray . Mr. Planta, expended for books and coins Dr. Combe, for a collection of Bibles Mr. De Boffe, for books .... Mr. Planta, expended for ditto ... Ditto, expended for books, coins and antiquities Leigh & Co. for books Mr. Daniel, for his works - - Balance carried forvrard d. £. s. 100 - 47 6 93 6 150 - 661 10 23 J5 6 55 2 29 19 34 7 6 6 Total 34 14 - 98 14 6 100 - - 100 - - 50 - - 100 - - 150 - - 40 1 - 24 3 6 100 ^ - 25 18 - 145 16 - 82-8 - £' 4j907 - 8 1805: April ■ 5 Oct. ■ 10 May ■ 3 1806: April ■ 5 Oct. - 10 1807: Feb. - 26 April - 5 Oct. 10 i8o8: March 4 April ' 5 Oct. - 10 1809: March 13 May - 3J April - 5 Oct. - 10 1810 : April - 5 - - 13 - 14 Oct. - 10 Dec. - 4 1811 : Jan. - 15 March H Ap"rii - .5 Aug. - 31 Oct. - 10 Nov. - 11 Dec. 20 l8l2 • Feb. - 10 April . 5 — 30 Oct. 10 1805 to 1816. Heceipts : Balance of Account last year Half- j'ear's interest on 11,600/. stock - . . Ditto - ditto . . . . Produce of sale of duplicate books ... Half-year's interest on 11,600/. stock . . - Ditto - . ditto - (Property-tax deducted) Repayment of Property-tax Half-year's interest on 12,440 I. 6 s. 18 I. 13s. 2d. - Half-year's ditto - . . . gd. stock, deduct Property-tax, Eepayment of Property-tax . Half-year's interest on 12,440/. 6s. gd. Ditto - . ditto Repayment of Property-tax - . . . Cash from General Fund . . - . Half-year's interest on 12,440/. 6s. gd stock Ditto - - ditto . . . . Ditto - . ditto Produce of sale of 1,000/. stock - Repayment of Property-tax - - - Half-year's interest on 1 2,440 Z. 6s, gd. stock Cash from General Fund • . Produce of sale of 6,352/. 2 «. 9 d. stock Repayment of Property-tax - Half-years interest on 6,ob8 /. 4 s. stock Cash frotn General Fund ... Half-year's interest on 4,036/. 1 1 s. stock Cash from General Fund - - . . Ditto - - ditto ... Ditto . - ditto .... Half-year's interest on 8,058/. 12*. 1 rf. stock Repayment of Property-tax - - . . Half-year's interest on 8,058 1. 12s. id. stock £■ s. d. 82-8 174 - - 174 - - 787. 1 3 174 - - 156 12 - 17 8 - 167 18 11 167 18 11 37 6 4 167 18 11 167 18 11 37 6 4 175 10 — 167 18 11 167 i8 11 167 18 11 685 - -. 37 6 4 ,167 18 11 150 — -. 4,200 37 6 4 82 3 10 225 .- 54 9 10 20U ., 224 16 - 250 _ ■_ 108 15 9 15 3 « 105 15 9 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 423 1813 J April - 5 June - 17 Oct. - 10 1814 . Feb. - 14 April - 5 June - i.-i Oct. - 10 1815 ; Jan. - 1.9 Feb. - l.T April - 5 — 27 May - 8 June - 16 1805 ' Feb. - i6 _ i8 - 28 May - 11 — 1.5 July - 13 - 29 1806 : Feb. - 12 - 17 April - 5 May - 12 1807 ; Jan. - 7 Feb. - 21 — 23 — 27 March 28 June - 30 Afig. - 28 i8o8 : Jan, - H Feb. - 18 - 22 March 17 May - 11 1809 ; Jan. - 6 Feb. - 11 March 7 Aug. - 24. Nov. - 13 181c ): Jan. - 18 Feb. - 16 - 19 March 13 April - 19 May - 10 - ifi - 21 Dec. - 12 1811 . Jan. - 16 Feb. - J 3 May - 16 June - 11 Aug. - 21 Nov. - 11 - 13 Dec. - 20 Receipts — continued. Half-year's interest on 8,058 1. 12 s. 1 d. stock Repayment of Property-tax - - ' - Produce of sale of 1,000 /. stock . . . Half-year's interest on 7,058 /. 12 *. 1 rf. stock Cash from the General Fund Half-year's interest on 8,058 1. 12 s. id. stock Repajnnaent of Property-tax - . - . Half-year's interest on 8,058 1. 12s. id. stock Cash from the General Fund Produce of isale of 1,568 Z. i2s.6d. stock Half-year's interest on 6,489/. 19,?. 7 d. stock Produce of sale of 1 ,000 /. stock - Ditto - - - of 5,489/. 19 «. 7 rf. stock Cash from Mr. Planta - - - - - Total - 479- Payments : Mr. Charles Elliott, for books Mr. De Boffe, for ditto . - - - Payne & Co., for ditto - - - - - Mr. Planta, expended for books and coins Mr. BickerstafP, for books - . - - Mr. Planta, expended for books, coins and MSS. Mr. Hatchard, for books . . - . Payne & Macinlay, for books ... Mr. Hatchard, for ditto - - . - Mr. Munro, for ancient prints Mr. De Boffe, for books .... Cash for 840/. 6 s. 9 rf. stock . . - Payne & Co., for books - - . . Mr. De Boffe, for books .... Mr. Elliott, for ditto Mr. Dulau, for ditto - . . - - Mr. Hatchard, for ditto Mr. Planta, expended for books - - - Mr. White, for books ... - - Mr. Planta, expended for books . . - Mr. De Boffe, for books - - - . Mr. Dulau, ditto Mr. Hatchard, ditto ... Mr. Elliott, ditto - - - . - To the General Fund Mr. Elliott, for books .... Mr. Hatchard, for books - - Mr. Planta, expended for books Ditto - . ditto . . - . Ditto, for books, MSS. and coins - - - Mr. De Boffe, for books . . - - Mr. Hatchard, ditto - . . - Mr. White, ditto Mr. Planta, expended for books - - - Sir Wm. Forbes, for Sir Andrew Mitchell's papers Mr. Planta, expended for books and antiquities Mr. Elliott, for books ... Mr. Douce, for ditto - - • - To the General Fund - - . Mr. Planta, expended for Mr. Roberts's coins Ditto, expended for books . . . - Mr. De Boffe, for books ^ - - To the General Fund - - - - - Mr. Dulau, for books .... Mr. Planta, expended for books and coins Cash for 356 /. 8 4. 8 rf. stock - - Cash for 358 /. 5 s. stock - - - - , 3 H4 £. s. d. 108 15 9 24 3 6 557 6 6 95 5 9 602 19 3 108 15 9 34 15 3 108 15 9 92 18 1,000 - 87 12 557 « 3,129 5 90 - £. 34 5 66 16 52 19 100 - 51 8 100 - 43 5 144 1 52 5 31 10 150 - 400 - 100 - 42 3 37 4 600 - 4,200 100 28 150 96 100 225 224 16,135 H - s. d. 6 6 6 28 13 - 56 7 6 50 - - 111 15 2 500 - 10 7 41 1 25 14 16 5 44 1 100 - 8i 6 200 - 54 9 - 25 19 fi 80 16 6 29 5 6 200 - - 17 16 - 28 5 6 17 16 - 140 - - 100 - - 19 6 2 - 16 - ilppendix, No. 19. Expenditure of Major Edwards's Fund. (continued) 424 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 19. Expenditure of Major Edwards's Fund. 1812: Feb. - 11 - - 13 - - 17 - - 20 June - 18 Oct. - 22 1813: Jan. - 11 Payments — continued. Mr. Dulau, for books -------- Mr. De Boffe, ditto Mr. Hatchard, for books - — Mr. Elliott, ditto - - - Mr. Fianta, expended for minerals, sculptures, books and coins Ditto, expended for books ------- May - 11 July - 13 Oct. - 11 Nov. i.*) Dec. 1 1814: Feb. 23 - - 26 181^ '>'• Jan. - 9 - 19 Feb. - . .9 - 15 - 16 March 13 April - 26 May - iti — 18 June - 13 Longman & Co., for books - Mr. Payne, ditto Mr. Planta, expended for books and coins To the General Fund - - . - Cash for 1,000/. stock - . - - Mr. Planta, expended for books Mr. Pipping, book-binding - - - Dulau & Co., for books Mr. De Boffe, for books Mr. Richard Miles, for medals . - . - . To the General Fund ---.--. For a Power of Attorney -_.-... Messrs. Baber and Konig, for their journey to Munich - Mr. Charles Burney, for books on music Col. De Bosset, for coins, &c. . = . - . To the General Fund ------- Mr. Baber, in part payment for Baron Moll's Collections Longman & Co., for books -.--.. Mr. Planta, in pan payment for Baron Moll's Collections Balance to the General Fund - . _ . . Total £. «. d. 26 18 - 111 8 — .57 41 182 7 13 19 6 40 — — 20 12 6 15 84 557 .578 4 6 15 6 6 100 — — 13 2 6 13 13 _ 92 10 ._ 135 10 - 100 - - 1 3 - 300 - - 253 - - 840 - - 100 - - 1,009 16 9 19 18 - 1,922 3 10 527 18 3 £. 16,135 14 - M. Cowtan, Accountant. Appendix, No. 20. Egyptian Anti- quities. 1. Minute of Committee, 13 February 1819. Appendix, No. 20. (1.) — MINUTE of Committee respecting Mr. Belzoni's Offer to collect Antiquities in Egypt; 13 February 1819. At a Committee, Mr. Planta having laid before the Board a letter from Henry Salt, Esq., to Sir Joseph Banks, dated Thebes, enclosing another letter from Mr. G. Belzoni, respectino" the collecting of articles of antiquity in Egypt ; it was ResoWed, That the said letters be referred to the consideration of the general meeting of this day. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, 26 June 1835. J. Forshall, Sec. 2. Minute of General Meeting, 13 February 1819. (2.)— MINUTE of General Meeting, declining Mr. Belzoni's Offek ; 13 Feb. 1819. At a General Meeting, Mr. Salt's letter to the Right hon. Sir Joseph Banks, Bart., dated Thebes, November 16, 1818, enclosing another letter from Mr. G. Belzoni, referred from the Committee of this day, was read ; Resolved, That the Trustees decline accepting Mr. Belzoni's services in collecting; for the Museum in Egypt. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, 26 June 1835. j. Forshall, Sec. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 426 (3.) — MINUTE respecting Mr. Salt's Offer of Egyptian Antiquities; dated Appendix, No 20. 19 Feb. 1820. , -; — ; Egyptian Aiiti- , At a General Meeting, a letter from Henry Salt, Esq., His Majesty's Consul-general in quities. Egypt, to the Right hon. Sir Joseph Banks, Bart., dated Cairo, 28th May 1819, was read, . ■ offering a Collection of Antiquities made in Egypt by himself and Mr, Belzoni, the schedule 3- Minute, of which was annexed to his letter, for purchase at a valuation. ^9 February iSao. Resolved, That the Earl of Aberdeen, Mr. Long and Mr. Bankes, be requested to commu- nicate with the Admiralty, as to the means of, conveying the different articles specified in Mr. Salt's schedule to England. (Extracted from the Minutes.) v British Museum, June 26, 1 835. J. Forskall, Sec. (4.)— FURTHER MINUTE respecting IM r. 5a^fs Offer of Egyptian Antiquities; 4. Furthpr Minute, dated 11 May 1822. 11 May 1822. ' At a General Meeting, Mr. Bankes laid before the meeting a letter which his son, Mr. William Bankes, had received from Mr. Salt, dated Cairo, 6th January 1822, stating, that the whole of the Egyptian Antiquities assembled by him were now safely arrived in England, and expressing a hope that the Trustees will come to a determination as to the purchase of them for the Museum. Resolved, That it be requested of Mr. William Bankes, that he will have the goodness, in his answer to Mr. Salt, to state that the Trustees are desirous that Mr. Salt should appoint some person on his own part to make a valuation of the Egyptian Collection. The Trustees dechne the Alabaster Sarcophagus, on account of the very high value put upon it by Mri Belzoni. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, June 26, 1835. J. Forshall, Sec. (5.)— MINUTE of Sub-Committee icspocting the Offer of Mr. Salt's Egyptian 5. Minute of Sub- Antiquities; dated 13 February 1823. Committee, At a Sub-committee, the Sub-committee having conferred with Mr. Bingham Richards ^^ ■ceoruary 1 23. upon the subject referred to them, Mr. Richards expressed his willingness, on the part of ' Mr. Salt, to accept the sum of 2,000/. for Mr. Salt's Collection of Egyptian Antiquities, according to the schedule forwarded to the Trustees, leaving out the Sarcophagus. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, June 26, 1835. J. Forshall, Sec. (6.)— MEMORANDUM of Sum paid for Mr. Salt's Egyptian Antiquities. g ^^^ ^.^ ^^^ The sum paid to Mr. B. Richards for the purchase of Mr. Salt's Collection of Egyptian Mr. Salt's Egyptian Antiquities appears to have been 2,000 /., for which amount a cheque was prepared 14 June Antiquities. 1823. J. Forshall, Sec. British Museum, 22 June 1835. App endix, N o. 21. Appendix, No. 21. (1.)— MINUTE of General Meeting respecting Leave of Absence to Mr. Millard, I; ^'"1"'^°^,; „ dated 13 March 1830. fgXcKof' At a General Meeting, the Trustees were pleased to allow Mr. Millard, the gentleman employed in making a General Index to all the MSS., leave of absence for six months on account of ill health, his salary ceasing«until his return to his duty in the Museum. (Extracted from the Minutes.) J. Forshall, Sec, British Museum, 29 June 1835. 479- 3 1 426 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 21. 2. Minute of Committee, 12 February 1 831. (2.)— MINUTE of Committee respecting the continued Assistance of Mr. Holmes, and Notice to Mr. Millard as to the Term of his Engagement; dated 12th February 1831. At a Commitee, Mr. Forshall laid . before the Trustees a Report upon the general state of the MS, Department, and repeated his application to the Trustees for the continued assistance of Mr. Holmes. The Trustees authorized the engagement of Mr. Holmes for the ensuing twelve months. The Trustees also directed the Secretary to acquaint Mr. Millard that they do not deem it advisable to complete at present the classed Index of the MSS. upon which he is engaged ; and that, desirous to give Mr. Millard such notice of their intentions as may enable him to provide himself with some other employment, they do not wish to consider his engagement with them at an end until the 17th February 1832. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, 29 June 1835. /. Forshall, Sec. 3. Rev. J. Forshall, to Mr. Millard, 17 February 1831 4. BenjaminHawes, Esq. to the Trustees. 10 May 1831. (3.) -LETTER from the Rev. J. Forshall to Mr. Millard, dated I7 February 1831. Dear Sir, I AM directed by the Trustees of the British Museum to acquaint you, that having had under their consideration the state of the Manuscript Department, they do not deem it advisable to continue at present the work on which you are engaged ; but desirous to give you such notice of their intentions as may enable you to provide yourself with some other employment, they do not wish to consider your engagement at an end until the 1 7th February 1832 ; after that day they will have no further occasion for your services. I am, &c. (signed) J. Forshall. (4.) — LETTER from Benjamin Hawes, Esq. to the Tkdstees of the Beitish Museum. My Lords and Gentlemen, I BEG leave to certify to you, that in the year 1824, while Mr. John Millard was in treaty with your Honourable Board for the appointment which he now holds, he declined to accept the situation of Secretary to the Royal Humane Society, the salary and emoluments of which were equal to 230 1. per annum. I am, &c. (signed) Benjamin Hawes, Treasurer to the Royal Humane Society. Russell Square, 10 May 1831. 5. Memorial of Mr. Millard to the Trustees. (.5.)— MEMORIAL of Mr. M27/ard; dated 11 May 1831. To the Trustees of the British Museum, the Memorial of Mr. John Millard, Humbly showeth, That, on the iithof December 1824, your Memorialist was appointed by your Honourable Board " to form a New General Index to the Manuscripts, at a salary of 300 Z. a year •" and, as there were then about 18,000'volumes in the Museum, your Memorialist concluded that his labours would occupy a very considerable portion of time, perhaps the greater part of his life; nor could he reasonably contemplate that the work would be abandoned before its completion. That, under these circumstances, your Memorialist declined to accept a permanent situa- tion, that of Secretary to the Royal Humane Society, the salary and emoluments of which were^ equal to 230 Z. a year; and, subsequently, has been compelled to rehnquish several advantageous literary engagements. That your Memorialist received on the i8th of February last, with the deepest concern a letter from the Rev. Mr. Forshall, the Secretary to your Honourable Board, intimatino- to your Memorialist, that after the 17th of February 1832 there would be no further occasion for his services. That, from the education and habits of your Memorialist, who has no profession on which he can depend for subsistence, as well as from the peculiar circumstances of the times your Memorialist is fully persuaded that he will find it very difficult, if not impossible in the short mterval between the present time and the period fixed by your Honourable Board for his dismissal, to procure any employment which will place him in the same advantageous situation as that in which he stood at the commencement of his engao'ement with your Honourable Board. " •' Your Memorialist, therefore, most respectfully entreats that your Honourable Board will allow him to hold his present appointment for another year beyond the time specified in the notice which he has received from the Secretary to your Honourable Board. British Museum, 11 May 1831. (signed) J, Millard, DeptofMSS. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 427 (6.)— MINUTE of Committee respecting Mr. Millard's Memorial ; dated 14 May 1831. Appendix, No. 21. At a Committee, the consideration of a Memorial presented by Mr. Millard was deferred 6. Minute of to the next meeting of the Trustees. Committee, (Extracted from the Minutes.) ^^ May^Ssi- British Museum, 29 June 1835. J- Forshall, Sec. (7.)— MINUTE of Committee; dated ii June 1831. 7. Minute of At a Committee, the Memorial from Mr. Millard, laid before the last meeting of the , j j^^^g ^g' _ Trustees, was again read ; Ordered, That the Secretary acquaint Mr. Millard, that in consideration of the circum- stances mentioned iwhis Memorial, the Trustees intend to continue his engagement in the service of the Museum for the space of time which Mr. Millard specifies ; but that at the termination of that period his employment by the Trustees will certainly cease. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, 29 June 1835. ^ J. Forshall, Sec (8.)— LETTER from the Rev. J. Forshall to Mr. Millard; dated 16 June 1831. 8. Rev.J. Forshall, to Mr. Millard, Dear Sir, i6 June 1831. Having laid your Memorial before the Trustees of the British Museum, I am directed - to acquaint you, that in consideration of the circumstances stated in your Memorial, the Trustees intend to continue your employment at the Museum for the period you request, that is, until the 17th February 1833; 0° t^^* ^^Y 7°"^ engagement with the Trustees will cease. v The Trustees desire me to add, that they do not wish to prevent you by this engagement from taking advantage of any other more desirable employment, which may offer itself to you in the mean time ; you will therefore consider yourself at liberty to leave the Museum whenever it may best suit your own convenience. I remain, Scc> (signed) J. Forshall, Secretary. (9.)— LETTER from Mr. Millard to Henry Ellis, Esq. 9. Mr. Millard to Dear Sir, British Museum, 7 July 1831. ^f^ mi ^'^' I SHALL feel greatly obliged by your laying the accompanying letter before ihe Trustees, ' ^ at their meeting on Saturday next. I am, &c. Henry Ellis, Esq. (signed) J. Millard, Principal Librarian. Dep< of MSS, (10.)— NOTE from Mr. Milfard to the Trustees of the British Museum. 10. Mr. Millard to the Trustees, Mb. John Millard begs leave, most respectfully, to present his grateful acknowledg- 7 July 1831. ments to the Trustees of the British Museum, for the extension of time granted to him at their last meeting, and to assure them that, in the prosecution of the very importan(?task confided to his care, no exertions shall be wanting on his part to merit a continuance of the high sanction of their approbation. British Museum, 7 July 1831. (11.)— MINUTE of Committee J dated 9 July 1831. 11. Minute of Committee, At a Committee, a letter from Mr. Millard, thanking the Trustees for the indulgence 9 July 1831. granted him at the last Committee was laid before the Board, - . —' — ■ — ^r— (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, 29 June 1835. J. Forshall, Sec. 470. -3 I 2 428 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 21. 12. Memorial of Mr. Millard to the Trustees, 4 January 1833. (12.)— MEMORIAL of Mr. Millard, dated 4 January 1833. To the Trustees of the British Museum, the Memorial of Mr. John Millard, Humbly showeth, That your Memorialist was appointed in December 1824 " to form a New General Index to all the Collections of Manuscripts in the British Museum ;" and not contemplating the abandonment of the work before its completion, your Memorialist naturally considered that this appointment was tantamout to a provision for the whole or greater part of his life. Impressed with these views, your Memorialist declined to accept a permanent situation of 230 /. a year, and was also compelled to sacrifice other advantageous engagements. That the progress of the Index irf question is directed by your Honourable Board to be suspended on the 17th of February next; that the prospect of this event has been, and still is, the source of intense and continual solicitude to your Memorialist, and that he has lost no opportunity of seeking for some other appointment compatible with his talents and habits, but, he regrets to say, without success. Your Memorialist therefore most respectfully entreats your Honourable Board, that he may be allowed to proceed with the important work confided to his care, certain portions of which are completed, and need only alphabetical arrangement and revision to render them fit for use. Your Memorialist begs, most respectully, to submit to your Honourable Board the sub- joined statement of his progress in the " New General Index to the MSS." The Index to the Hargrave Collection of MSS., completed. The Index to the Lansdowne Collection of MSS., completed. The Index to the Harleian Collection of MSS., in progress. The Index to the Additional Collection of MSS., in progress. Of this last Collection there are several thousand volumes without any Index what- ever, and unless many tomes of catalogue be first perused to discover their contents, these " inestimable treasures" (to which there are numerous annual accessions by purchase, dona- tion and bequest,) must for ever remain " sealed books" to the public. The Indexes to the Hargrave and Lansdowne Collections being completed, may (if your Honourable Board should so please to direct) be forthwith prepared for the use of the readers, and in like manner, when made, the Index of each successive Collection ; and, when all the Indexes are finished, they may be amalgamated so as to form ofie " Grand, Alphabetical Table of Reference to all the Collections of MSS.," and save the trouble of con- sulting a great variety of Indexes. British Museum, Department of MSS. (signed) J. Millard. 1,3. Minute of Committee, 12 January 1833. (13.)— MINUTE of Committee, dated la January 1833. At a Committee, a Memorial was laid before the Trustees from Mr. John Millard, requesting to be allowed to proceed with the General Index to the Collections of MSS. The Secretary was directed to refer Mr. Millard to the communication made to him by order of the Trustees upon the presentation of his Memorial of May 1831. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, 29 June 1835. J. Forshall, Sec. 14. Rev.J.Forshallj to Mr. Millard, 16 January 1833. (14.)— LETTER from the Rev. J. Forshall to Mr, Millard, dated 16 January 1833. Dear Sir, Having laid before the Trustees of the British Museum your Memorial dated the 4th instant, I am directed to refer you to the communication made to you bv order of the Trustees m reply to a similar Memorial submitted to them in May 1831. I am, &c. (signed) J, Forshall.- Appendix, No. 22. i.Rev.H. H.Baber to Sir Henry Ellis, 26 June 18:^5. (1.)- Appendix, No. 22. -LETTER fvomtheUev H H.Baber to Sir Henry Ellis, as to Persons attending the Readmg Rooms, dated 26 June 1835. ^ My dear Sir, I HAVE spared no endeavours to comply with the order given me by you to transmit, for the information of " the Select Committee of the House of Commons upon the Management of the British Museum," the information required with respect to the number of booksfunder classes SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 429 classes specified by the Committee, called for by the frequenters of the Reading Room Appendix, No. 22. during the months of March, April and May i&s's. The investigation commenced imme- uuMug me mumus oi iviaiuii, npiu auu may ioy<3. ine mvesiigation Commenced imme- ~~-r- diately upon the receipt of your order, when four igentlemen, connected with the Printed ^-Re^H. H. Baber Book Department, were ordered to suspend all the Museum business on which they were *° ^*'' ^^P'^y ^^'^'^j at present engaged, and to proceed forthwith with all possible dispatch upon the inquiry '^^•^""^ ^^35- . required. It will not be possible to make a return (imperfect as it must necessarily be with all the pains taken to give it) to the inquiry above specified, till Monday or perhaps Tues- day next. I am, &c. H. H. Baber. Mr. Cates's reply to the inquiry respecting the number of persons who frequented the. Reading Rooms during the months above specified, is enclosed in this letter. British Museum, 26 June 1835. (2).— LETTER from Mr. Gates to Sir Henri/ Ellis, on the same Subject, dated 24th June 1835. Sir, In answer to the question respecting the number of persons who attended the Readitig Rooms daily, during the three months preceding the 1st June 1835, stating how many of such persons appear to have been the same individuals ? — The average number of persons attending the Reading Rooms have been nearly 250 each day ; one-fifth of which number appear to be almost constant in their attendance. Reading Room,"l 24 June 1834. J Jafh.es Gates, Chief Attendaht of the Reading Room. 2. Mr. Gates to Sir Henry Ellis, 24 June 1835. (3,)— LETTER from the Rev. H. H. Baber, to Sir Henri/ Ellis, on the same Subject, dated 30th June 1835. My Dear Sir, In obedience to an order of the " Select Committee of the House of Commons on the British Museum," desiring an account of the number of Printed Books consulted by the persons who attended the Reading Room during the three months preceding the ist of June 1835, under the respective heads of "Theology, Classics, Science, Art, History, Antiquities, Law, Biography, Genealogy (which head should include Peerages, Heraldry, Chivalry, Knighthood, &c.). Topography, Voyages and Travels, Encyclopaedias, Dic- tionaries, Grammars, &.c. ; Poetry and the Drama ; Romances, Novels and Annuals ; Reviews, Pamphlets, Magazines and Modern Periodical Literature, &c. &c. &c. ," I have the honor to transmit to you the following Statement, as the nearest appro,\imation which can be made to the number of Printed Books, in the above-mentioned classes, consulted by the persons who attended the Reading Room during the period specified : — g.Rev.H.H.Baber, to Sir Henry Ellis, 30 June 1835. Theology - - - - - 1,190 Classics ----- ^63 Science ----- 2,713 Art - 624 History ----- 2,167 Antiquities - - - - - 481 I^aw 945 Biography. 707 Genealogy (including Peerages, He- raldry, Chivalry, Knighthood, Sec.) 1 53 Topography - - - - 1,286 Voyages and Travels - - - 797 Encyclopaedias, Dictioiiaries, Gram- mars, &.C. - _ - _ Poetry and the Drama - - - Romances, Novels and Annuals Reviews, Magazines, and Modern Periodical Literature Miscellaneous - - - - Deduct Classics 421 1,187 495 870 1.725 1.6,524 763 15,761 Under the head " Miscellaneous" are comprised all books on subjects not specified in the above heads of inquiry mentioned in the order of the Committee, and include Meta- physics, Moral Philosophy, Political Economy, Logic, Criticism, &a. &c. " Classics" have been deducted from the total, as the books under this head have been also enumerated, under the subjects which they embrace, In the enumeration here given, the titles of books only are reckoned. If the reckoning had been made by number of volumes, the total amount of books sent into the Reading Room during the three months specified in the order of the Committee would have been about 40,000 volumes. In this statement is not included the number of books conisulted by the readers, and selected by them from the Library of Reference, deposited in the Reading Rooms. This Library of Reference embraces about 8,000 volumes, and consists principally of Encyclo- paedias, Dictionaries, some Magazines and Reviews, and a great variety of Historical Works ; of these, it is estimated that there were upon the average 150 jrolumes in constant daily use, or 14,000 volumes during the three months specified in the order of the Select 479. 3 1 3 Committee. 430 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, Ko. 22. Committee. If the proportions, as arranged under EncyclopsBdias, Magazines and His- torical Works, could have been ascertained, a material addition would have been made 10 3. Rev. H.H.Baber, the number affixed in the above statement to those respective classes, to Sir Henry Ellis, ^ g^ 30 June 1835. ' lam, SIC. British Museum,"! 30 June 1835. J Henry Heroey Baher, Keeper of the Printed Books. Appendix, No. 23. Appendix, No. 23. 1. ExtrE^ct Minutes (i.)_EX,TRACTS from Minutes of Trustees respecting Sir George Beaumont's of Trustees respect- Pictures ; dated 12th and 2Xst July 1823, 14th February 1824, and 13th May 1826. ing Sir George Beaumont's Pictures. 12 July 1823. At a General Meeting, Sir Charles Long presented to the Board a List of Pictures which he had received from Sir George Beaumont, Bart., being the Collection which Sir George Beaumont intends to present to the British Museum. 21 July 1823. At an Extraordinary General Meeting, a letter from Sir George Beaumont was read, dated Grosvenor-square, July 17th, 1823, confirming the Douation of a Collection of Pictures to the Museum, the list of which was presented to the last General Meeting by Sir Charles Long. Resolved, That his Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury be requested to return the thanks of the Trustees to Sir George Beaumont for his munificent Present. 14 February 1824. At a General Meeting, his Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury announced to the Trus* tees, that he had returned their thanks to Sir George Beaumont for his munificent Donation of a Collection of Pictures to the Museum. 13 May 1826. At a General Meeting, a letter from Sir George Beaumont to Sir Charles Long, dated Grosvenor-square, April 18th, 1826, was read, requesting permission from the Trustees to withdraw from the Collection of Pictures given by him to them, the painting ascribed to Titian or Giorgione, and another by Swaneveldt, he having already substituted for them a Head by Sir Joshua Reynolds- and Wilkie's inimitable picture of the Blind Fiddler; stipulating also for Mr. Wilkie to have the use of the last-mentioned picture for his sole emolument, should he think it expedient to have it engraved again. Resolved, That the Trustees most readily consent to both of Sir George Beaumont's wishes, expressed in his note to Sir Charles Long. (Extracted from the Minutes of the Trustees.) British Museum, i8 June 1835. J. ForsHall, Sec, 2. Sir George Beau- mont, Bart., to the Trustees, 17 July 1823. (2.) — LETTER from Sir George Beaumont, Bart., to the Trustees of the British Museum, on the same Subject ; dated 17th July 1823. My Lords and Gentlemen, Grosvenor-square. I requested my friend. Sir Charles Long, to communicate to you at your last meetings my desire to make over to you, for the benefit of the public, my Collection of Pictures, of which I transmitted a list. I beg now to confirm my intention, so communicated by him, and to add, that I shall be ready to deliver the pictures to the Museum, whenever the Gallery about to be erected is ready to receive them. I have, &c. (signed) G. Beaumont^ SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 481 LIST of PicTUHEs intended to be Presented to the Bkttish Museum by Sir George Beaumont. 1. Jluben's Country House, a large landscape. 2. Ditto, Claude Loraine, representing the Story of Narcissus. 3. A small upright ditto, Hagar and Ishmael. 4. A companion to it, Scene, a Wood, Mid-day. 5. A small Sunset, by Claude ; the Story of Cephalus and Procris. 6. A Landscape, by Nicolo Poussin, representing a Man, near a Fountain, washing his Feet. 7. A large Landscape, by Both; a Mountainous Country, with Travellers; a warm Sunset. 8. A View in Venice, by Canaletti ; a large landscape. 9. The Return of the Ark, by Sebastian Bourdon ; highly esteemed by Sir Joshua Reynolds, and left as a Legacy to Sir George Beaumont. 10. A small Landscape, by Swaneveldt ; figures highly finished. 11. A large Landscape, by Wilson; subject, Niobe and her Children, with Apollo and Daphne ; a Storm. 12. A companion subject. 13. A large upright, by Rembrandt, representing a Jew. 14. A small picture in chiaro oscuro, by Rembrandt, representing the Taking Down from the Cross. 1 5. A picture by Titian, the Virgin and Child, with St. John. 16. Py lades and Orestes, by Benjamin West. Appendix, No. 23. 2. Sir George Beau- mont, Bart., to the Trustees, 17 July 1823, (3.)— LETTER from Sir George Beaumont, Bart., 18 April 1826. to Sir Charles Long, Bart., dated 3. Sir George Beau- mont, Bart., to Sir Cbarles Long, My dear Sir Charles, Grosvenor-square. As I shall not be at the next meeting of the Trustees, and you have kindly consented to *'^*" m o c manage the business for me, I beg the favour of you respectfully to acquaint the Trustees P" that I have added to my original donation, two pictures, a very fine Head, by Sir Joshua ' Reynolds, and Wilkie's inimitable picture of the Blind Fiddler. On further consideration, I do not think the Titian, or Giorgione, for it is not decided who painted it, is worthy of a place with the other pictures ; the doubtfulness respecting its author is unpleasant ; but there is another objection of far greater weight; on close examination it has been so unmer- cifuUy^.treated in the cleaning, that it must diminish the credit of the Collection, Another objectionable picture in the list is the Swaneveldt; certainly a pretty picture, but being a downright imitation of Claude, and vastly inferior, I suspected it would not suit, and upon endeavouring to make it harmonize with the rest, and placing it in every light we could imagine, we could not find a place where it would not injure the others ; and it is by no means calculated to elevate the taste of the public or the artists, which ought to be the main object of a National Gallery. At any rate the pictures I have added are worth twenty such works as these. As, therefore, it would be very painful to leave behind me pictures which would discredit the purity of the Collection, I hope through the indulgence of the Trustees to be permitted to with draw' them. One word more, and I have done; the Print of the Blind Fiddler is very defective in truth of expression; the demand for it still continues, and I wish it to be understood that if Wilkie should think it expedient to have it engraved again, that he may have the use of the picture for his sole emolument. It is incumbent upon me to make this stipulation, because I have repeatedly assured him, that it should be at his service whenever he should wish to have it re-engraved. With a thousand thanks, and with great regard, truly yours, (signed) G, Beaumont. Appendix, No. 24. EXTRACT from the Minutes OF the Teustees, respecting Mr. Holwell Carr's Pictures, dated 12 March 1831. At a Committee, a letter was read from the Rev. Edward Holwell, executor to the late Rev. Holwell Carr, dated Plymtree, 10th March 1831, furnishing the Trustees with an extract from the Will of Mr. Holwell Carr, as follows : " I give and bequeath to the Trustees of the British Museum, for the benefit of the public, the whole of my Collection of Ancient Pictures, which are now in my two drawing-rooms; and, as a memorial of my beloved wife and my child. Lady Charlotte Holwell Carr and Wilham Holwell Carr, and to be placed in the same building with the late Mr. Angerstem s, and Sir George Beaumont's : I give also my own portrait to be placed with them." Mr. Holwell further stated, that he was heir-at-law and next of kin to the testator, and feeling deeply the deprivation to which he was subjected by the preceding clause ot Mr. Carr's Will, requested to know whether the Trustees would object to an exhibition ot the pictures for Mr. Holwell's benefit. , ^^^^ 479. 314 Appendix, No. 24. Extract Minutes of the Truistees respecting Mr. Holwell Carr's Pictures, 12 March 1831. 432 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 24. The Secretary was directed to express to Mr. Holwell the deep sense which the Trustees entertain 0^ the liberality and public spirit of Mr. Holwell Carr in making so munificent a contribution in encouragement of the Fine Arts in this country, and at the same time to ac- quaint Mr. Holwell that the Trustees consider themselves, as legatees for the benefit of the pubhc, precluded from the consideration of Mr. Holwell's i-equest, and that they are desirous to take immediate charge of the pictures bequeathed to them. (Extracted from the Minutes of the Trustees.) British Museum, 17 June 1835. J- Forshall, Sec. Exti'act Minutes of the Trustees respecting Mr. Holwell Can's Pictures, 12 March 1831. Appendix, No. 25. 1. Extract from Nicolas's Observa- tions on Historical Literature. Appendix, No, 25. 2. Prince Polignac to M. Paul de Fon- tenay, 24 Aug. 1829. (1.)— EXTRACT from Nicolas's Observations on the State of Historical Literature concerning Sir Henry Ellis's Journey to Pomard. " It was intimated to The Speaker of the House of Commons, as one of the Trustees, that the Baron de Joursanvault, of Pomard, near Beaune, was possessed of a magnificent Collection of Muniments of the 14th, 15th and i6th centuries, relating to the occupation of France by the English, and affording important illustrations to the history of the period. Specimens of the documents were produced, and the very moderate price which was asked for the collection was named. The Speaker promised to bring the subject to the notice of his colleagues, and he did so with such success, that it was determined some pne should be sent to examine the manuscripts. So far the resolution was a proper one ; but in- stead of dispatching an individual in an unostentatious and quiet manner, the Head Librarian of the Museum was selected, and the purpose of his visit was announced to the British Ambassador, that he might receive official aid in his mission! Not contented with this injudicious and useless developement of the objects in view, the learned gentleman himself pompously announced wherever he went that he was the ' Chief Librarian of the British Museum,' sent specially to treat for these manuscripts ; thus making a public affair of what should have been kept private. The effect of this folly may easily be imagined. Long before the ' Chief, Librarian' reached Pomard, the French newspapers expressed their indig- nation that Historical Muniments should be sold to the British Government ; inferring that England must indeed be anxious to possess the records in question, when the purchase of them was made an official business. " The effect of all this parade upon the owner of the manuscripts was a natural one ; he fancied he had erred in his estimate of their value, and that as they seemed to be objects of National importance to another Government, he resolved to make that Government pay at a much higher rate, for what they manifested such extraordinary anxiety to obtain, than a private individual. On the ' Chief Librarian's arrival at Pomard, he discovered that the Baron could speak little Enghsh, and the Baron, as he has since asserted, discovered that the 'Chief Librarian' could speak less French; hence it was with great difficulty the latter could understand that the Baron had become so enlightened about his treasures as to expect not merely double the price he originally asked for them, but that, as our Government had interfered on the subject, he wished it to advance one step further, by inducing His Most Christian Majesty to raise his Barony into a Comt^. Such, terms were out of the question ; and after spending two or three hours only in examining the collection, but which required at least as many weeks, the ' Chief Librarian' returned to England re infecta, and made his report to the Trustees, who refused to purchase the collection, but offered to buy a few documents, which the owner of course declined. Thus, highly valuable documents are lost to the Museum and to the country, in consequence, solely and entirely, of the absurd measure adopted for their acquisition." — Nicolas's Observations on the State of Historical Literature, 8vo. Lond. 1830, pp. 78-80. (2.)— THE Prince de Polignac's Letter, referred to in Sir H. Ellis's Evidence. Ministere des Affaires Etrang^res Cabinet. Monsieur. Paris, le 24 Aout 1829. M. L'Ambassadeur d'Angleterre m'ayant demande, en faveur de M. Ellis, attache au Museum Bntannique, nne lettre d'introduction aupres de M.le Baron de Joursanvault, votre beau-frere, dont il desireroit voir la belle collection de manuscrits et de lettres origi- nales, je ne crois pouvoir mieux faire que de vous I'adresser, en vous priant de vouloir bien le presenter a Mr. votre beau-frere. Je serai fort reconnaissant de I'accueil que M. voudrez bien lui faire. que M. le Joursanvault, et vous, Monsieur, Agreez, je vous prie, avec les remercimens que je vous of&e k I'avance, I'expression, et ma consideration tres distinguee. M. Paul de Fontenay, Membre de la Chambre des Deputes a Beaune. Le Prince de Polignac. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 433 (3.)'— EXTRACT from the Morning Journal of Saturday, September 12, 1829. (From the Courier des Ekcteurs of Wednesday.) " Our Archives sold out to England. — A person living in one of our southern deparl- ments had,in his possession a great many manuscripts relative to the state of France dur- ing the British occupation in the 14th and 15th centuries, and previous to that period. He proposed to sell them to the French ministry, and his offer was rejected. He then sent them over to the British Government, and asked 60,000 francs for them. The Pre- sident of the House of Commons examined the papers, and immediately ordered Mr. Ellis, the Director of the British Museum, to go to France, in order to close with the offer. We took cognizance of the instructions he had received. It is stated in them that the British Government sets the greatest importance, upon these papers. But the most curious (not to make use of a harsher word) part of the transaction is, that upon the English Ambas- sador's introducing Mr. Ellis to M. de Polignac, and according to his demand, ihe French minister delivered Mr. Ellis letters of recommendation for the prefect, or deputy of the department, who is to help in completing the negotiation. " Thus our history's records, and authentic documents about our old vassalage, will be in possession of the English, who will insolently glory in them, 'and a French ministry constitutes itself the factor of such a bargain ! We do not know how to qualify such a piece of conduct." Appendix, No. 25. 3. Extract from the Morning Journal of 12 Sept. 1829. (4.) — NOTE from the Baron de Joursanvault to Sir Henry Ellis. Beaune, le 3 7!*^ 1 829. La collection que vous venez de voir. Monsieur, est le fruit du soins de m^n pere, qui 4. Baron de Jour- y a mis de tr^s grosses sommes. Mon pen de lumieres m'y fait donner moins de prix sanvault to Sir probablement qu'elle ne vaut. Je cederai tons mon titres, tons les nianuscrits genealogiques Henry Ellis, et historiques pour cent mille francs. 3 Sept. 1829. Si Ton desire y joindre les manuscrits et les editions gothiques que vous avez vu dans —. mon cabinet particulier, le somme sera de cent dix mille francs. J'y ajoute une reserve absolue de tons les ouvrages de mon p^re, et de tons les titres que peuvent avoir rapport a ma famille. Je vous prie avec instance de vouloir bien tenir a la demande particuliere que je vous fais verbalement. Vouillez bien croire. Monsieur, a la haute consideration avec laquelle j'ai I'honneur d'etre, ' • Votre obeissant serviteur. Monsieur Henry Ellis, Ecuyer, Le Baron de Joursanvault. au Mus6e Britannique ^ Londres. Presentement a Beaune, France. Clause verbale. — Vous m'obtiendrez, par le faveur de Lord Wellington, de la Couronne de France, le titre de comte, qui sera substitue a celui qui je porte, et transmissible K ma famille, sans pour cela faire de majorate. Ma famille exista d'apr^s titres de fondation de Chapelle, d'Hospices, &c. depuis 1350. Ma m^re est alliee des dames, est une Suligny ; ma femme parente des Leris, Terray, Dree, &c. Si cela ne se peut pas, je me bornerai a obtenir de I'Angleterre I'entr^e franche dans sa royaume d^ 500 pieces de vin de France. Je constaterai, s'il le faut, qu'elles sorlent de mes propri^tes. (5.) — REPORT made to his Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury, by Sir Henry Ellis, upon the MSS. at Pomard. My Lord, Paris, 7 September 1829. I HAVE the honour to acquaint your Grace with the particulars of my journey to Pomard. Lord Stuart was so good as to procurte me a letter of introduction to M. de Fontenay, the Baron deJoursan vault's brother-in-law, at Beaune, and one of the Chamber of Deputies. M. de Fontenay, however, was at his country-house at Autun, but the Baron being at the moment himself occupying M. de Fontenay's house at Beaune, the letter answered its purpose as an introduction, and he immediately offered to drive me over, a short league, to Pomard. I found the manuscripts in a large decayed chateau, the appearance of which bespoke more wealth in its former than its present owners. The collection, as oflFered to the Trustees, is in two parts. One is a general collection of manuscripts in the Baron's private study, with a small assemblage of black letter and other printed books ; the other consists of the great collection of charters and original muni- ments, forming the archives of the Earls of Blois ; and the heraldical and genealogical manuscripts, chiefly relating to France, collected, I conceive, by the Baron's father. Of the manuscripts in the Baron's private study he had no catalogu e ; I therefore took each volume down as it stopd, and made such a list for the Trustees as will enable them to appreciate the contents of that part of the collection. They amount to near 100. Of the printed books which he joins to the collection, he has furnished me with a list, as well as with separate lists of the printed and manuscript genealogical and heraldic works. 1 1 •. 1 • o- The catalogue of the great collection of charters has been accurately described m Sir Thomas Elmsiey Croft's memorandum, placed in my hands by The Speaker of the House 479- 3 K of 5. Report uDon the MSS. at Pomard. 434 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE • ADoendix No 2'; of Commons. The collection is indeed a most extraordinary one of its kind, and would be ^'^ L ■ a treasure in the stores of the British Museum, or of any other public collection, though, 5. Report upon the perhaps, for a reason which will presently appeai;, some of the Trustees may think a pubhc MSS. at Poinard. library of France would be its most appropriate repository. It is placed in two attics ot ^ the chateau, of considerable area, 1 should say sixteen feet in height, in cartons, (or paste-board boxes) each two feet in length by one in depth and width. Each carton contains some hundreds of charters, at least wherever I examined them, and I made, here and there, my comparison with the catalogue of from 20 to 30 cartons, all answering to □ n □ □ the catalogue and to the successive dates upon the outside of the boxes. The fact is, □ □ □ that in one room there were above loo boxes piled up to the ceiling, the lower ones CJ □ LZl [Zl of which, where I could get at them, were full of instruments, arranged as I have described, I counted also, in the same room, near 150 bundles, all of single articles, partly, for want of room, placed upon the floors. In the second room I counted 149 cartons, piled up like the former, and no ladder in the house to get at them. I did what I could upon a pair of steps, made of two thin boards fastened to two other upright boards ; but I had not even a safe pair of steps. Many of the cartons in the second room contained collections of a comparatively recent date, apparently the manuscripts of the Baron's father. Some of these were terriers of lands, others were marked " Pays Strangers," " Monumens Genealogiques," " Pieces Historiques," " Parlement," " Histoire de I'feglise." Of the great collection of charters (and it appeared to me to be larger than all the col- lections of charters at present in the British Museum put together), I am bound to say that I believe them to have formed almost the entire muniments of the Earls of Blois, con- taining whatever related to their concern in the wars of Europe in the middle ages, to their praedial possessions, their granting out of property and privileges^ sales, -feudal or public acts, quittances of money for military services, letters patents, expenses of house- hold, and every act, material or immaterial, likely to be found in the archives of one of the greater houses of Europe. I looked in vain, however, for anything illustrative of English history, except in a single bundle, tied in paper, which seemed unconnected with the cartons, and was not, as far as I could find, in any of the manuscript catalogues. This bundle was entitled, in a modern hand, " Documens relatifs a I'occupation de la France par les Anglois, 1400." It con- sists of about loo vellum instruments, one or two, or perhaps more, so far in the form of letters that they were official announcements ; such as the Duke of Orleans in England in 1437, that he had obtained safe-conducts for his thancellor and premier ecuyer d'ecurie. Amongst these are various orders of payment and acquittances for money ; and several relate to Charles Duke of Orleans whilst prisoner in England after the fight at Agincourt. There is a payment to the Earl of Suffolk; another to persons fighting against the English; a payment for the deliverance of the Due d'Angoul^me whilst prisoner in England in 1412 ; various orders of John Duke of Bedford, the Bastard of Salisbury, the Duke of Exeter, &c. to persons in the care of military posts under them ; the Duke of Bedford concerning musters ; Henry the Fifth's acquittance to the parishioners of certain villages from pay- ments on account of the war ; various grants of the same King for services in the wars ; a grant to Sir William Bourchier of the estates of the Earl of Eu, dated at Mantes in his 7th year ; and an order for a confirmation to be made out of the different grants of the Kings of England and Dukes of Normandy to the House of Lepers at Dieppe. This hundle I should be most glad to see in England. Finding nothing more of the kind, I went after M. de Joursanvault (who had left me all along to "myself), and requested he would point out to me the " Letters to and from the most important persons of England and France," mentioned in Sir Thomas Croft's memorandum, which I showed him. His answer was, " Je ne sais pas." He pointed out the Marriage Treaty mentioned by Sir Thomas Croft (in his note book), but knew of nothino- further in the collection relating to England. I think I can venture to assert that the bundle I have described is all in this collection referred to as concerning England in Sir Thomas Croft's memorandum, and I do not think even that this bundle ever formed a part of the Blois documents. M. Buchon, the inspector of the archives of France, with whom I have been long acquainted, told me that the Baron de Joursan vault's father collected ancient instruments wherever he could find them, and that at the opening of the French Revolution he obtained a great many by persuading the mob that parchment was a bad material to make cartridges with. I called upon Sir Thomas Croft at Dijon, in my way to Pomard, but he was not arrived ; and I called again upon him two days after, in my return, in hope of some explanation as to his mention of the "Letters." Not fiijiding him, I left a note requesting him to write to me in London. There is another part of Sir Thomas Croft's memorandum which is in error. There are, as my list will show, a few manuscripts, particularly one or two copies of " Horse B. v! Marise," illuminated, and some heraldic MSS. emblazoned, but nothing to deserve the term of " splendidly illuminated MSS." When I had finished my survey, I spoke in very favourable terms to the Baron of the Blois part of his collection, as' it really deserves, and requested him to favour me with his terms for purchase in writing, that I might be under no wrong impression in laying them before the Trustees. He took time to consider, and brought them to me in the evening at my hotel. 1 have transcribed them for your Grace upon a separate sheet, retaining the original to bring with me, for fear of accident. Sir Thomas Croft mentioned 60,000 francs. M. de Joursanvault asks, in writing, 1 0,000 SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 435 5. Report upon the MSS. at Pomard. 100,000 for the Blois and genealogical collections, and 10,000 more if the manuscripts Appendix, No. 35 in his private study and the old printed books are added. He was very desirous for me to — — name a price which I thought would be acceded to, but that I of course declined, as a thing which I was unable to speak to. In the fourth paragraph of the Baron's letter he speaks of a verbal demand which I was to keep in mind, but which he really, as your Grace will see, delivered to me in writing, and which, in spite of all I could say, I could not induce him to withdraw. I hope in ten days or a fortnight to return to the Museum, when I shall be very happy to wait upon your Grace, and give any further explanation in my power. I travelled by the mail-post and diligences of the country, and have only to add, that my expenses in English money for the journey from Paris to Pomard and back have amounted to 7 Z. 8 s. n to the been informed that Mr. Hawkins is willing to dispose of this matchless collection on con- Trustees, u July dition of its being deposited in the British Museum, I mo^t respectfully beg to recommend ■'^S*- it to. your notice, on account of the wonderfully perfect state of the specimens, and the ' extraordinary interest they possess, and from their being exclusively British. Some years since a few imperfect specimens of this kind were sold by auction in London, and were purchased at high prices by the French Government for the Museum in the Jardin des Plantes, to the great regret of British naturalists. So favourable an opportunity as the present for enriching the British Museum with fossil remains has never before occurred, and it is scarcely possible ever will again; for the col- lection has been made undet a rare combination of fortunate circumstances, and by an enthusiastic collector, who has devoted years to its formation, has spared neither labour nor e-Kpense, and who has been singularly fortunate in his discoveries. I, therefore, my Lords and Gentlemen, beg to repeat my anxious hope that this splendid collection will be purchased for the British Museum, and not be allowed to enrich the publie collections of other countries. I have the honour to be your very humble servant, (signed) Gideon Mantell, f.r.s., &c. (7.)— LETTER from the Rev. W. Conybeare, f.r.s., to the Rev. J. Forshall. ^^^ ^ ^^^^ My dear Sir, 7 July 1834. beare, f.r.s. to the BucKLAND (who is auxiously engaged at present with reeard to the splendid collection ^^^' ^" ^'"'*hall, of fossil Saurians which has been recently offered for sale to the British Museum by Mr. Hawkins, who has bestowed much labour and expense in forming it) suggests to me that it may be useful if I communicate my opinion on the matter to you. Now I cannot too strongly express my sentiments with regard to the great importance of that collection. These very interesting fossil genera are so exclusively the property of British science, that it appears to me highly desirable that our great national Museum should possess the most complete collection of them. I should esteem it a national disgrace were our Gallic or German neighbours to snatch up such a prize as the present ; and if this be missed, I am well convinced that many years might pass before such another opportunity might offer. This collection is especially important, as throwing much light on the characteristic distinctions of the different species of these Saurians, and thus filling up manv deficiencies in pur previous information. The two large specimens of the Ichthyosaurus and Plesiosaurus are the most splendid and perfect 1 have seen ; and the latter is unique in the circumstance, that the dorsal sur- face being imbedded in the stOne, the sternal is exposed, and this portion was before only known from my conjectural restorations, which are thus either corrected or confirmed. I have sent Buckland a testimonial for the Trustees, which is in fact a mere dupHcate of this letter. Pray remember me to Ellis, Madden, and my other friends at the Museum, and believe me, ■ Very truly, &c. (signed) W. Conybeare. 7 July 1834. (8.) — LETTER from Wm. Clift, Esq.,F. e. s. to the Rev. J. Forshall. g Wm, Clift Esq Sir, Royal College of Surgeons, Lincoln's Inn Fields, 7 July 1834. B^'^ t V^^>i I AM much gratified in learning that it is probable the Dorsetshire lias fossils, which , jui igo have been collected and wrought out by Mr. Hawkins, will be deposited in the British ' " ^ ^^' Museum; " a consummation devoutly to be wished" by every one who has devoted any attention to the subject of British Animal Remains, or to the enthusiastic and unwearied zeal of the collector, who has, by great and well-directed labour, accumulated such a series of Ichthyosaurian remains as I believe could not be nearly equalled if all the other cabinets in Europe were at the present moment at our disposal to, make a selection from: conse- quently these, in addition to what it already possesses in this particular, must render the British Museum the richest depository in the world. I should, moreover, consider it a cir- cumstance to be regretted if they were permitted to be the ornament of any cabinet out of England, which gave them birth, and sincerely wish they may never leave this country, nor be divided by submission to any hammer, save that of a geologist. I have the honour to be. Sir, ■ Your most respectful humble servant, (signed) Wm. Clift. 479- 3K4 440 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE endix No 28 (9-)— LETTER from H. T. De la Beche, Esq;, f. r. 3. to the Trustees of the British Museum. .-7- Gentlemen, Nether Stowey, 17 July 1834. Hawkins's Fossils. j,, having been stated to me by my friend. Professor Buckland, that Mr. Hawkins is ■""T" desirous to dispose of his collection of Saurian animals (chiefly obtained from the lias of 9. H.T.delaBeche, Somersetshire, and figured in a late worki of his,) to the British Museum, I would wish to Ksq., F.R.s. to the ^^^ ^^ testimony to that of other geologists of the great value of this collection, so excel- 18^4 ^'^^' ^' ^ ^^"^ °^ ^^^ ^'"*^' *° science, and to express a hope that the Trustees of the British Museum may be induced to preserve, for the benefit of national science, a series of specitnens collected under circumstances little likely to occur again, and which if separiited would in a great measure cease to he of that importance which they now possess. I have the honour to be. Gentlemen, Your very obedient servant, (signed) H. T. De la Beche. 10. Rev. Dr. Buck- O^-^ — LETTER from Rev. Dr. Buckland, to the Trustees of the British Museum. l^"*^'°rf "^s"*' My Lords and Gentlemen, , Oxford, 7 July 1 834. ees, 7 u y 1 34.. j ^^^ ^^ inform you that I have received a communication from Mr. T. Hawkins, stating __ . ^^^^ ^^ .^ anxious to see placed in the British Museum his collection of gigantic fossil reptiles, found in the counties of Dorset and Somerset, and that he is ready to sell them to the Trustees at any price that I shall name. I have declined to act alone, and have proposed that Mr. Mantell should assist me in the valuation, in case the matter should be favourably regarded by the Trustees. I beg leave to state my opinion with respect to this collection, that it is absolutely unique, and that I consider it a matter of very high importance to the Museum to get pos- session of it; it is such as I could scarcely have believed it possible to make, and such as could only have been made under a rare combination of circumstances in one individual, which can never occur again. The specimens are not only of high value in the estimation of men of science, but are also to a great degree intelligible to the unlearned ; among them are several which are in their kind beyond compare, the finest and most perfect the world has ever yet produced. I feel it would be an honour to the country to have this collection placed in the British Museum, and a national discredit if these unique productions of England should be pur- chased for'public museums in other countries. The specimens offered for sale are all beautifully and most accurately engraved in a folio volume, just published, by Mr. Hawkins, on Ichthydsauri and Plesiosauri, which may be con- sidered as a catalogue of the collection. I have the honour to remain, &c. (signed) William Buckland. U.QV 11. MinuteofCom- (HO — MINUTE of Committee, dated 1 August 1834. mktee, 1 Aug. ^^ ^ Committee, ^^ ^'*^' A LETTER, dated 12th July, from Professor Buckland was read, stating that he and '""'"""" Mr. Mantell had separately estimated every article in Mr. Hawkins's Fossil Sauri, and that they considered the remains figured in Mr. Hawkins's work to be worth 1,025 1. ; and that the worth of the remaining Sauri, not figured in the published plates, was 225 /. These last Professor Buckland and Mr. Mantell strongly recommended to be also acquired for the Museum. This estimate was stated by Professor Buckland to be exclusive of the value of the cases in which some of the fossils are set ; these last had been valued by Mr. William Caldecott and Mr. W. Bracher, two upholsterers and appraisers, at 60 1. 5s. The Secretary acquainted the Board, that as directed by the Minute of the last Com- mittee, and under the sanction of several of the Trustees, to whom Professor Buckland's letter had-been communicated, he had written to the Lords of the Treasury, recommending the purchase to the consideration of their Lordships. . A letter, dated the 29th July, from the Treasury was read, stating that the Lords Com- missioners concurred in opinion with the Trustees, that the opportunity should not be lost of acquiring possession of Mr. Hawkins's collection of fossil organic remains, to the great value of which such strong testimony is borne by most competent witnesses, and that their Lordships had directed an estimate for 1,310/. 5s. for the purchase of them to be laid before Parliament. ^ (Extracted from the Minutes.) -r, . . . ,T X , r, J. ForshalL Secretary. British Museum, 22 July 1835. ' •' SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 441 (12.) — LETrail from the Rev. Dr. BvcJciand to the Trustees of the British Museum. Appendix, No. 28. My Lords and Gentlemen, London, 12 July 1-834. Hawkii^^ossils, I HAVE this day carefully looked over the collection of the Remains of Sauri offered foi 1_ sale to the British Museum by Mr. Hawkins, and have had the valuable assistance of Mr. 12. Rev.pr. Buck- Mantell, in estimating every article separately. After carefully revising our notes, taken land to the Trustees, on separate lists, without communication with one another, we found our estimates of the 12 July 1834. whole to coincide within 5 1. ; they are as below : All the specimens engraved in Mr. Hawkins's pubhcation (substituting a large Plesio- saurus, now in Adelaide-street, for plate 4, the subject of which has been sold,) we value at 1,025 1. The remainder of his collection of Sauri, not pubHshed in his work, but which we also strongly recommend to be purchased for the Mjiseum, we value at 225 /. Total value, i,25oZ. In this estimate we do not include the cases of wood in which some of the specimens are framed ; these are to be paid for by the Trustees, at a separate valuation to be made by two persons, one of whom is to be appointed by the Trustees, and the other by Mr. Hawkins ; with reference to their umpire, in case of a difference of opinion as to the value. I have the honour, &c. 1 , (sigaed) Wm. Buckland. The above information has this day been communicated to Mr. Hawkins, under thejoint signatures of Mr. Mantell and myself. (13.)— LETTER from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the Trustees of the British Museum. 13. Rev; Dr. Buck- i.;r 1-11^1 .^/.,x,« land to the Trustees, My Lords and Gentlemen, Oxford, 20 July 1834. 20 July 1834. I CANNOT express more strongly than I have done in my former letter, the very decided opinion I entertain of the public importance of immediately purchasing for the British Museum the entire collection of petrified remains of reptiles, now offered for sale by Mr. T. Hawkins, on the fair terms of a valuation by two indifferent persons, who are competent judges. As my former letter related only to that largest portion of the collection which is described in his book, I beg now to submit in writing what I stated viva voce to the general meeting of the Trustees, respecting that small portion of the collection which is not described by Mr. Hawkins in his book, and which Mr. Mantell and myself have valued at 225 /. As to this residuary part, I beg to state my opinion that it ought on no account to be separated from the rest, because it contains many important objects most desirable for the Museum, and because these objects are of tenfold value as parts of a series of which four-fifths are comprised in the collection described by Mr. Hawkins in his book, and about to be purchased by the Trustees, if the Treasury will grant money. I can only add that expedition is important, as the specimens may receive injury from damp if allowed to remain much longer where they now are, and the sale cannot be post- poned to another year. I have the honour to remain, &c. (signed) Wm. Buckland. Mr. Hawkins has sent a catalogue of the residuary collection above mentioned to Mr. Forshall, and a duplicate of the same to myself. (14.) — EXTRACT from Mr. Konig'a Report, dated 12 February 1835. 14. Extract from Mr. Konig's With regard to those (Saurian fossil remains) lately purchased of Mr. Thomas Report, 12 Feb. Hawkins, Mr. Konig regrets he is necessitated to acquaint the Trustees that a discovery of 1835: rather a vexatious nature has been made since the arrival of that collection at the Museum. The two largest specimens, especially the principal Ichthyosaurus, which on account of its supposed perfection has been valued at 500/., have turned out to be of much less value, on account of their being made up, and all over restored with plaster of Paris, and altogether unfit to be exhibited to the public, without derogation from the character of the British Museum. Mr. K. has thought it right to inform of this circumstance the two gentle- men upon whose recommendiition and valuation the collection in question was purchased. Df, Bucl?land, in answer, suggests that lines be drawn round the restored, in order to dis- tinguish them from the real osseous parts. Mr. Mantell, on the other hand, writes that if the specimens were his, he should let them remain as they are, and in his catalogue piention the parts that'have been superadded or restored. But the former of those gentlemen is not aware of the frightful extent of the restoration, the details of which Mr. Konig thought it useless to communicate to him ; the latter, by the expression " were the specimen his," appears himself to feel that the expedient which he suggests, though it might be resorted to in the exhibition of a private collection, cannot with propriety be adopted in the National Museum. Under these circumstances nothing remains for Mr. Konig but to await the pleasure of the Trustees, as to the steps which are to be taken in this epiergency. 479- 3 I- 442 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 28. Hawkins's Fossils. 15. Minute of ■Committee, 14 February 1835. 16. Extract from Mr. Konig's Eeport, 12 March 1835. (15.)— MINUTE of Committee, dated 14 February 1^35.* At a Committee: Mr. Konig reported, with regard to the fossil remains recently purchased from Mr. Thomas Hawkins, that the two largest specimens, especially the principal Ichthyosaurus, ,were of much less value than he had formerly supposed, on account of their being made up and generally restored with plaster of Paris, and altogether unfit to be exhibited to the pubhc, without derogation from the character of the Museum; that he had made the two gentlemen upon whose recommendation and valuation chiefly the Trustees had purchased the collection, acquainted with the circumstance. Dr. Buckland recommended that hnes should be drawn round the restored parts, in order to distinguish them from those which are really osseous. Mr. Mantell advised that the specim.ens should be left in their present state, and the restored parts particularized in the catalogue. Mr. Konig in his report seemed to object to both these methods, but did not himself propose any other expe- dient. The Secretary was directed to suggest to Mr. Konig, whether it might not be advisable to allow the restored parts to remain, colouring them of a different shade from those which are real, so as to make the distinction evident to a common observer, and to explain the intention of this difference of colour in the Synopsis. The further consideration of this part of Mr. Konig's report was Ifeferred to the Sub- committee of N atural History. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, 22 July 1835. J. Forshall, Secretary. (16,)— EXTRACT from Mr. JKowjg's Report, 12 March 1835. With regard to the large specimen of Ichthyosaurus purchased of Mr. Thomas Hawkins, Mr. Konig has the honour to report, that he is decidedly of opinion that the method of obviating any deception as to its real state, by colouring the restored, and thus distinguish- ing them from the osseous parts, is preferable to a complete abrasure of the plaster of Paris. By the latter process not only very little of the dorsal vertebral column would remain, but the whole tail, consisting of 68 vertebrae made of plaster of Paris, would dis- appear, and the glass case (which is understood to cost 100 /.), appear several feet too long. If the tail remains, only differently coloured, Mr. K. thinks it would appear less striking, if close to it, in the vacant space above and below, two other framed specimens from the same collection, each of about eight feet by three, were introduced. This might indeed also be done if the other method, that of abrasion, were preferred. The Trustees will probably sanction this contrivance of filling up the vacant space, as likewise the exclusion from the gallery of another specimen, 14 feet in length, for which there is no room anywhere in that apartment; neither is it deserving of it, as it is made up, and perfectly worthless. 17. Minute of Com- mittee, 14 March 1835. (17.)— MINUTE of Committee, dated 14 March 1835. At a Committee : A Letter from Professor Buckland, dated 12 March, was laid before the Board : Dr. Buckland stated, that in consequence of a communication from Mr. Konig, he had called at the Museum to examine the amount of restorations in plaster of certain parts of some of the specimens purchased last summer from Mr. Hawkins; and in regard to this point, desired to make the following statement : That Mr. Hawkins offered the specimens to the Museum at a price to be estimated bv Dr. Buckland, with the assistance of Mr. Mantell : ^ That Mr. Mantell and Dr. Buckland made their estimates separately, and on comparina: their hsts found them to agree within 20 /. on the value of the whole collection : That Mr. Hawkins never professed that there were no restorations ; on the contrary Dr. Buckland was aware that there were such, having had many bf the specimens under his observation for three or four years past, and having often remonstrated against the That on more careful examination he found the amount of the restorations much less than he had supposed; and that were he again to value the collection, he should fix a laro-er rather than a less price upon it : , * That the principal restorations are in the largest specimen, valued at 200 1, or 200 guineas ; and that to obtain such a specimen in a perfect state is all but impossible • And that there had been therefore neither fraud nor collusion on the part of Mr' Haw- kms, nor want of information on Dr. Buckland's ; and that, in his opinion, provided the restored parts were pointed out by a different colour from the bones, no one could possibly be deceived, and the specimens would be much more intelligible to the unscientific observer than it the restorations had not been made. This letter was referred to the Sub-committee on the department of Natural History. (Extracted from the Minutes.) ■D •»• . ^T 1 1 o •^' ForshaU, Secretary. British Museum, 22 July 1835. •' SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. (18.)— MINUTE of same Committee, dated 14 March 1835. 443 Appendix, iio. 28. At a Committee : „ 1 -"T"^ m Hawkms's Fossils. Mr. KoNiG gave it as his opinion, that the colouring of the restored parts of Mr. Haw- . ' — - king's large Ichthyosaurus, so as to distinguish them from those which are really osseous, . Minuteof Corn- would be preferable to a complete abrasure of the plaster of Paris. imttee, 14 March ■ The Trustees directed that this method should be adopted with regard to all the restored ^ ^£v parts of Mr. Hawkins's specimens. ' Mr. Konig suggested that the vacant space in the case, above and below the tail of this large specimen, might be filled up by the introduction of two other framed specimens from the same collection. He hkewise suggested that another specimen, 14 feet in length; which was made up, and entirely worthless, should be excluded from the gallery. The Trustees having proceeded to the mineral gallery, and examined the case containing the large Ichthyosaurus, did not concur in the propriety of introducing other specimens into tha,t case ; but they ordered the Secretary to lay the whole of Mr; Konig's report, so far as it is connected with Mr. Hawkins's fossils, before the Sub-committee of Natural History, and to take their directions upon the several points referred to., British Museum, 22 July 1835. (Extracted from the Minutes.) J. Forshall, Secretary. (19.)— MINUTE of Sub-Committee, dated 26 March 1835. At a Committee of Natural History : So much of Mr. Konig's report of February 1 2th, as relates to the purchase and arrange- ment of Mr. Hawkins's collection of fossil remains, was read. Mr. Konig's report of March 12th upon that subject, was also read, as was Dr. Buck- land's letter of the same date. Mr. Konig was called in, and in answer to questions put by the Trustees, acquainted them, that he had made the statement in his February report, regarding the valuation of the large specimen of Ichthyosaurus at 500 1., upon the strength of paragraphs in the newspapers, and of general rumour. He explained also, that when in his March report he stated that by a complete abrasion of the plaster of Paris little of the dorsal vertebral column would remain, he referred, not to the length, but to the width of the column, which had been increased by the restoration of many of the vertebral processes. He further explained, that the 60 vertebrae of the tail, made up of plaster, which were mentioned in the same report, occupied about three feet of the end of the specimen. The Trustees proceeded to the gallery of minerals, and particularly examined these specimens : Considering the explanations given by Mr. Konig, and the clear and decided statement of Dr. Buckland, the Trustees did not think it necessary to inquire further into the circum- stances attending the purchase of Mr. Hawkins's collection. It was Ordered, That the projecting plaster surrounding the body of the large Iththyosaurus, at present coloured like the lias, and seemingly intended to represent it, and which might from its resemblance to skin or other organic substance, mislead an ignorant observer, should be scraped away, so as to become at its outer edge level with the rest of the plaster in which the specimen is embedded : That the ground, or bed, should be of a colour nearly hke that of the large Plesio- saurus : That the restored parts, both in this and the other specimens purchased from Mr. Haw- kins, should be coloured in a lighter shade than the parts really osseous, but at the same time not so light as to form a strong contrast with the lias : That a small portion of the ground, and of the restored parts, should be coloured in the first instance, and the opinion of the Committee taken upon the proposed shades of colour : That Mr. Konig should be authorized to employ Mr. Sarti, so far as may be necessary, in preparing Mr. Hawkins's fossils for exhibition'^ 19. Minute of Sub- Committee, 26 March 1835. (Extracted from the Minutes.) British Museum, 22 July 1835. J. Forshall, Secretary. (20.)— .LETTER from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the Rev. J. Forshall. 20. Rev. Dr. Buck- land to the Rev. " My dear Sir, Oxford, 12 March 1835. _ In consequence of a letter from Mr. Konig, I called last week at the British Museum jj ^ u to examine the amount of restorations in plaster, of certain parts of some of the specimens ^ ^^"^ ^ purchased last summer of Mr. Hawkins ; and as some misapprehension has gone abroad upon this subject, I feel it due both to Mr. Hawkins and myself to request you on my behalf to submit the following statement to the Trustees. • 479 , 3 L 3 , That 835. 444 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 28. 20. Rev. Dr. Buck land to the Rev. J. Forshall, 12 March 1835. That Mr. Hawkins offered the specimens to the Museum at a price to be valued by myself, it being understood that I was to have the assistance of Mr. Mantell in the va- Hawkins's Fossils, luation : That Mr. Mantell and myself made our estimates separately, and on comparing our lists found them to agree within 20 1, on the value of the whole collection : That Mr. Hawkins never professed that there were no restorations of some defective por- tions of some of the skeletons ; on the contrary, I was aware of what he had been doing : many of the specimens have for three or four years past been under my observation, and I have often remonstrated against a practice which I could not prevent. On more careful examination of the specimens, I find the amount of these restorations to be\much less than I had supposed ; and-were I again to value the collection, I should fix a larger rather than a smaller price on it. The principal restorations are in the largest specimen, which was valued only at 200 /. or 200 guineas ; to obtain such a specimen in a perfect state is all but impossible. There has been, therefore, neither fraud nor collusion on the part of Mr. Hawkins, nor want of information on my part, as to the fact of reparation and restoration of certain broken portions of the skeletons ; and provided these restored parts be pointed out (as they assuredly ought to be) by a different colour from the bones which they now resemble, no one can possibly be deluded ; the specimens will be much more intelligible to the unscientific observer than if the restorations had not been made. As erroneous statements have appeared in the papers respecting this subject, you are , welcome to make any use you think proper of this communication. Mr. Hawkins would have done well had he indicated the amount of his restorations in his published plates ; but this is a matter which affects the purchasers of his book, and not the Trustees of the Museum, who, being in ppssession of the specimens, can so readily remedy the existing evil by marking with a different colour the restorations. Rev. J. Forshall, &c. &c. Believe me to be, my dear Sir, always truly yours, (signed) W. Buckland. Appendix, No. 29. Estimate for Printing the Synopsis. Appendix, No. 29. ESTIMATE by Mr. Clovxs for Printing the « Synopsis of the Contents of the British Museum," dated 22 July 1835: — with Two Specimens. ' 5,000 Copies of the above, printed in the same form as hitherto, demy 8vo. may be printed (including everything) for about - - - 1 s. 2d. per copy. 10,000 Copies in the same form - - - - - \s. ' 5,000 Copies in demy i2mo. according to specimen, making about 8 1 sheets, or 204 pages _ _ _ _ 10,000 Copies in the same form .-_-__ And 20,000 Copies would reduce it to about - - [For Specimens, see opposite.} id. — 9 Id. 8d. 6d. Appendix, No. 30. Mr. Westmacott's Mouldings from the Elgin Marbles. Appendix, No. 30. (1.) — Me. Westmacott's Proposal for making Moulds from Marbles in the Elgin Collection, 15 February 1817. I UNDERTAKE to make moulds from the following marbleS in the Elgin Collection and to deliver casts in plaster from the same, at the following prices ; 14 Bassi Relievi from the Panathenaic Frieze' - 2 Ditto -----_.. 1 Ditto 6 Metopes ------._ Theseus ------__ Ilyssus ------._ Caryatis ----'--__ Group, with recumbent figure, being two of the Fates Horse's head ----.__ Torso of Neptune ---... Ionic Column and Capital - - . _ . f. s. d. each 2 10 — each 4 4 - 8 8 — at each 6 - - 12 12 - 10 - - ID 10 — 60 - -- 2 10 - 3 13 6 10 10 I undertake Specimen 1. NATURAL HISTORY. US shoe Bats (Rhinolophus tridens, Rh. urii-hastatus, and Rh. bihastatus), and the large nose-leaved Bats (Megadermu frons, Geoff.). NINTH ROOM. The Mammalia in the upper Cases in this apartment are supplementary to those in the Saloon, and are placed here for want of sufficient space in that room. Amongst them are the Nepaul and Egyptian Goats, another specimen of the Musk Deer, the Egyptian Antelope and its fawn, the Per- sian Bull and Cow, and the Spotted-nosed Antelope. Above these Cases, and fixed against the wall, is the tanned skin of a large species of Boa, kiUed at Minas Geraes, in South America. The skins of these enormous serpents, when prepared in this manner, are used by the natives for making boots, &c. Over the Case No. 1 , is the nest of a species of Wasp, from India. In this apartment are also deposited the collections of Amphibious and Invertebrate animals, pre- served in spirits ; some Reptiles, and a small collection of Crustaceous animals. Spiders, and Insects*. The upright Cases contain Amphibia, and Invertebrated animals, in spirits. In Cases No. 1 and 2, are the various species of Frogs (Rana), some of a large size. Amongst them is the Jacky ( Rana par adoxa), the tadpole or larva of which is larger than the perfect animal, losing, at its metamorphosis, its enormous tail and external skin ; whence the older naturalists fancied the order of nature was reversed in this animal, and that the frog became a tadpote, or, as they called it, a fish, an error long since exploded. The Tree Frogs (Hyla), have the ends of their toes dilated into a roundish disk, by which they climb. The Horned Frogs have the eyebrows extended into horns. In Case 3 are Toads (Bufo), some of them exceedingly large. The Bombinatores, or Earless Toads, differ from the others, merely by having the tympanum concealed under the skin. Some, as the Rhinellse, have their nose produced to a point; and one (Pipa) is remarkable for its flattened shape, and for the manner in which the female carries her young in cavities^ or little cells, on her back. The Salamanders (Salamandra), and Efts (Triton), follow * The last three are exhibited merely as an outline of the arrange- ment of those subjects. '24 THE SALOON. genus " in the Naturalist's Miscellany, hesitated whether to admit it into his History of Quadrupeds, in the first vo- lume of his General Zoology ; for, as the original descrip- tion was given from the only individual at that time known, "it was," he tells us, "impossible not to entertain some doubts as to the genuine nature of the animal, and to surmise, that though in appearance perfectly natural, there might still have been practised some arts of deception in its structure." An animal, " exhibiting the perfect resem- blance of the beak of a duck engrafted on the head of a quadruped," might well excite suspicions of imposture, till its claim to be received as a genuine production of nature was confirmed by the arrival of other specimens from the same locality. Case 25 contains the frugivorous Bats (Pteropi), as the Egyptian Bat (Pteropus JEgyptiacus), the Striped-eared Bat (P. marginatus) from India, and the Kiodote (P. ros- tratus ? Horsf.) from Java. Case 26 contains the simple-nosed insectivorous Bats, as the Bull-dog Bat ( Noctilio rufus? Spix), and various spe- cies of Molossus. In Case 27 is a continuation of the simple-nosed Bats, comprehending some of the European species of true Bats ( Vesper tiliones), amongst which are several English spe- cimens. Case 28 contains the exotic species of the true Bats, amongst which the Kirivoula, or Striped Bat ( Vespertilio pictus, Gmel.), is remarkable for the beauty of its coloured wings. In this Case are also several specimens of the long-eared Bats, belonging to the genera Plecotus and Bar- bastellus. Case 29 contains specimens of those Bats that are dis- tinguished by having foliaceous, membranous appendages to the nose. The membranes vary considerably in form and number, and the individuals which are furnished with them, according to modern authors, constitute several distinct genera. In this Case is a specimen of the Spectre, or Vam- pire Bat ( Phyllostoma spectrum), and other species of the same genus ; and also one of the true Blood-sucking Bats ( Glossophaga ecaudata, Geoff.), from Brazil; — a Rhino- poma, from hxdxa. ( Rhinopoma Hardwiekii, Gray); — Rhi- nolophi, or Bats with complicated nose-leaves, or Horse- 24 THE SALOON. g€nus " in the Naturalist's Miscellany, hesitated whether to admit it into his History of Quadrupeds, in the first vo- lume of his General Zoology ; for, as the original descrip- tion was given from the only individual at that time known, " it was," he tells us, " impossible not to entertain some doubts as to the genuine nature of the animal, and to surmise, that though in appearance perfectly natural, there might still have been practised some arts of deception in its structure." An animal, " exhibiting the perfect resem- blance pf the beak of a duck engrafted on the head of a quadruped," might well excite suspicions of imposture, till Its claim to be received as a genuine production of nature was confirmed by the arrival of other specimens from the same locality. Case 25 contains the frugivorous Bats (Pteropi), as the Egyptian Bat (Pteropus Mgyptiacus), the Striped-eared Bat (P. marginatus) from India, and the Kiodote (P. ros- tratus ? Horsf.) from Java. Case 26 contains the simple-nosed insectivorous Bats, as the Bull-dog Bat ( Noctilio rufus? Spix), and various spe- cies of Molossus. In Case 27 is a continuation of the simple-nosed Bats, comprehending some of the European species of true Bats ( Vespertiliones), amongst which are several English spe- cimens. Case 28 contains the exotic species of the true Bats, amongst which the Kirivoula, or Striped Bat ( Vespertilio pictus, Gmel.), is remarkable for the beauty of its coloured wings. In this Case are also several specimens of the long-eared Bats, belonging to the genera Plecotus and Bar- bastellus. Case 29 contains specimens of {hose Bats that are dis- tinguished by having foliaceous, membranous appendages to the nose. The membranes vary considerably in form and number, and the individuals which are furnished with them, according to modern authors, constitute several distinct genera. In this Case is a specimen of the Spectre, or Vam- pire Bat (Phyllostoma spectrum), and other species of the same genus ; and also one of the true Blood-sucking Bats )Glossophaga ecaudata, Geoff.), from Brazil;— a Rhino- poma, from India (Rhinopoma Hardwickii, Gray) ; — Rhi- nolophi, or Bats with complicated nose-leaves, or Horse- NATURAL HISTORY. 25 shoe Bats ( Rhinolophus tridens, Rh. uni-hastatus, and Rh. bihastatus), and the large nose-leaved Bats ( Megaderma frons, Geoif.)- NINTH ROOM. The Mammalia in the upper Cases in this apartment are supplementary to those in the Saloon, and are placed here for want of su£Scient space in that room. Amongst them are the Nepaul and Egyptian Goats, another specimen of the Musk Deer, the Egyptian Antelope and its fawn, the Per- sian Bull and Cow, and the Spotted-nosed Antelope. Above these Cases, and fixed against the wall, is the tanned skin of a large species of Boa, killed at Minas Geraes, in South America. The skins of these enormous serpents, when prepared in this manner, are used by the natives for making boots, &c. Over the Case No. 1, is the nest of a species of Wasp, from India. In this apartment are also deposited the collections of Amphibious and Invertebrate animals, pre- served in spirits ; some Reptiles, and a small collection of Crustaceous animals, Spiders, and Insects*. The upright Cases contain Amphibia, and Invertebrated animals, in spirits. In Cases No. 1 and 2, are the various species of Frogs (Rana), some of a large size. Amongst them is the Jacky ( Rana paradoxa) , the tadpole or larva of which is larger than the perfect animal, losing, at its metamorphosis, its enormous tail and external skin ; whence the older naturalists fancied the order of nature was reversed in this animal, and that the frog became a tadpole, or, as they called it, a fish, an error long since exploded. The Tree Frogs (Hyla), have the ends of their toes dilated into a roundish disk, by which they climb. The Horned Frogs have the eyebrows extended into horns. In Case 3 are Toads (Bufo), some of them exceedingly large. The Bombinatores, or Earless Toads, differ from the others, merely by having the tympanum concealed under the skin. Some, as the Rhinellse, have their nose produced to a point ; and one (Pipa) is remarkable for its flattened shape, and for the manner in which the female carries her young in cavities, or little cells, on her back. The Salamanders (Salamandra), and Efts (Triton), follow » The last three are exhibited merely as ah outline of the arrange- ment of those subjects. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 445 I undertake to execute the above work with all care and attention ; the moulds to be Appendix, No. 30. made at such times as the Trustees of the British Museum may appoint ; and to pay the whole expenses attending the same ; the moulds to be my property. Mr. Westmacott's (signBd) Richard Wesmacott. S'^Si,, (The above is a correct Copy.) British Museum, 5 August 1835. J. Forshall, Secretary. (2.) — Conditions on which the Trustees accepted Mr. Westmacott's Proposal for Moulding from a Selection of the Elgin Marbles. I. The Panathenaic Frieze and Metopes to be commenced imniediately, and not more than four feet of thd Frieze, or one of the Metopes, to be covered at one time. a. Provided any of the marbles should receive injury of any sort during the operation of moulding, the Trustees reserve to themselves the right of stopping the progress of the vrork altogether. 3. When the whole is completed, if the execution of the work should not appear to 'the Trustees to be satisfactory, they reserve to themselves the power of entering into an agree- ment with some other artist to remould the whole or any part thereof. 15 February 1817. (signed) Richard Westmacott. (The above is a correct Copy.) British Museum, 5 August 1835. J. Forshall, Secretary. Appendix, No. 31. A LIST of Marbles in the British Museum, moxildedhy Mr. F. A. Sarti. Appendix No. 31. For the Rev. Mr. Bury, Marbles moulded A figure of Libera, ^7 Mr. Sarti. For the Government of Prussia : A figure of Caryatis, A small Cupid bending his bow. The Rosetta stone. For Mr, Lennard : Head of Hercules, in the character of Bacchus. Head of Laughing Fawn. Head of Homer. A Pedestal. Ditto, triangular. A small Candelabrum. Ditto, in bas relief. A Goat's head. Head of a Bacchante. A Vase: A figure of a Fawn. Three small Bas Reliefs. A Lion's leg. For Mr. Gwilt, Four small Sarcophagi. For Mr, Baily, A Vase. For Lord Farnborough, A head of Paris. 479' 3 L 3 446 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. yi. Com raunications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. Appendix, No. 32. ^ COPIES of Communications made to, and received from, His Majesty's Ministers Abroad, respecting Literary Institutions or Libraries in Foreign Countries; 1834, 1835. 1. circular to Mmisters Abroad. (1.)— CIRCULAR. Viscount Palmerston to His Majesty's Ambassadors and Ministers at Paris, Vienna, St. Petersburg, Madrid, Lisbon, Berlin, Washington, The Hague, Brussels, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Munich, Frankfort, Naples, Turin, Berne, Dresden, Florence, Stuttgard, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Ayres, Mexico and Bogota. My Loud, Siri Foreign OflSce, 29 October 1834. I ENCLOSE to yo"*^ Excellency ^jjg accompanying memorandum, which I have you received from Mr. B. Hawes, jun., m. p., upon the subject of certain infor- mation which he is desirous of obtaining relative to the state of the National Museums and Libraries in foreign countries, for the use of a Committee of the House of Commons ; and I have to instruct yo"f Excellency ^^ endeavour to pro- you cure this information from the Government to which you are accredited. . I am, &c. (signed) Palmerston. (Enclosure in No. 1.) Memokandum of Information desired. Museum: Enclosure 1- Is there a national museum devoted to the arts, antiquities or natural history in the in No. 1. capital of Wirtemberg ? — 2. Under whose control and direction is it placed ? — 3. How many directors are attached to it, and what are their salaries ? — 4. Into what departments is it divided ? — 5. What are the general annual expenses ? — 6. Out of what mnd are they defrayed ? — 1. Who are the principal directors at present ? — 8. What are the bye-laws regulating the admission of the public to the museum ? — ' Library : 1. How many public libraries are there in the capital of Wirtemberg? — 2. How many librarians attached to each of them, and what are their salaries ? — > 3. What is the annual expense of books ? — ■ 4. What the general annual expenses ? — ■ 5. Out of what fund are they paid ?— 6. What bye-laws regulate the admission of the public ? — 7. Who are the principal librarians at present ? — 8. What is the number of volumes in each? — 9. What the number of manuscripts ? — 10. What is the nature of the government of these institutions generally? 11. Are there any annual printed accounts or reports relating to them ? 12. What is the number of provincial libraries ? — 13. Are they under the superintendence of any government authority?— SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 447 (2.)— RUSSIA. The Honourable J. D. Btigh to the Duke of Wellington. My Lord Duke, St. Petersburg, 28 December 1834. IN consequence of a despatch from Viscount Palmerston, marked Circular, dated 29th October, inclosing a set of Queries respecting the scientific and literary public establish- ments in this country, to which I was desired by his Lordship to procure answers, I applied for information on the subject to the Minister of Public Instruction, and the accompanying papers and books have in consequence been forwarded to me by his Excellency Monsieur OuvaroflF. I have, &c. (signed) J. D. Bligh. Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. — Russia. (Enclosure 1 in No. 2.) 1. Le Musee Roumaintzof, legue pour I'usage du public par feu le Chancelier Comte Nicolas de Roumaintzof, renferme une biblioth^que, un cabinet de [mineraux, une collection de m6dailles, et de differents objets debeaux^rts, d'antiquit6, et d'histoire naturelle. 2. La surveillance en est confine- h, un bibliothecaire en chef, qui a sous ses ordres deux bibliothecaires-adjoints, et un sous-bibliothecaire et intendant de la maison. 3. La charge du' bibliothecaire en chef est honoraire. II n'a pjis d'appointemens, et ne jouit que d'un logement dans la maison du musee. Les bibliothecaires-adjoints ont chacun 1,200 roubles d'appointemens, et le sous-biblioth6caire en a 800 roubles, outre le logement. 4. La bibliotheque du musee, consi§tant en 30,818 volumes imprimis, 731 manuscrits, 636 cartes g6ographiques, &c. est repartie, par ordre des mati^res, en sections, et dans i^aque section par ordre alphabetique. Le cabinet des mineraux, renfermant 12,974 pieces, est 'divis6 en trois classes, d'apres le syst^me de Werner ; 1^, terres et pierres ; 2^, metaux ; 3®, combustibles. La collection des medailles (1,594 pieces) est divis6 en trois parties : le, medailles Grecques et Romaines, 601 pieces ,- 2^, monnaies Orientales, 946 pieces : 3®, monnaies Russes, 47 pieces. 5. "Les frais annuels pour I'entretien du musee Roumaintzof montent ^ 13,065 roubles. 6. La moitie des fonds, affectes a I'entretien de cet ^tablissement, est tir6e des revenus d'une maison ^ louer, appartenante au mus6e. L'autre moitie est fournie par le gouverne- ment. 7. Le bibUoth^caire en chef est M. Vostokof, conseiller de college ; les bibliothecaires- adjoints, MM. Jackson et de St. Thomas. Le sous-biblioth6caire, M. Terestchenko. 8. Le public est admis au mus^e chaque jour de la semaine, except^ les Dimanches et les fetes, depuis 10 heures du matin jusqu'a quatre heures en 6te, et jusqu'tt trois heures en hiver. On peut lire ou faire des extraits, tant des livres imprimis que des manuscrits. Les livres et les manuscrits du musee peuvent aussi ^tre prates hors de cet ^tablissement, S. des personnes connues. (signe :) Le Bibliothecaire en chef, Alexandre Vostokof. (Pour copie conforme :) Engine Wonlar-Larsky, Le Secretaire pour la Correspondance fltrang^re. Enclosure 1 in No. 2. (Enclosure 2 in No. 2.) L'Academie Imperiale des Sciences de St. Petersbourg a sous son administration speciale : 1. Une Bibliotheque, divisee en deux sections; I'une pour les livres Russes, l'autre pour les livres enlangires 6trangferes. 2. Un Observatoire Astronpimique ; (le grand observatoire central, dont sa Majeste I'Em- pereur a ordonne la construction, se trouvera egalement sous la direction de rAcadeihie.) 3. Un Cabinet de Physique. 4. Un Laboratoire Qhimique. 5. Un Atelier pour la confection d'instrumens de Mathematiques et de Physique. 6. Un Observatoire Magnetique. 7. Un Musee Min^ralogique et Geognostique. 8. Un Musee Botanique. 9. Un Musee Zoologique et Zootomique. 10. Un Cabinet consacre S. la inemoire de I'Empereur Pierre I. 11. Un Musee Asiatique. 12. Un Mus^e Egyptien. 13. Un Musee Numismatique et d'Antiquites. 14. Un Mus6e Ethnographique et d'objets d'Art. 3 L 4 Chacune Enclosure 3 in No. 2. 448 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2 — Russia. Chacune des deux sections de la biblioth^que se trouve sous la direction d'un bibliothe- caire en chef, choisi par le president de I'Academie, soit parmi les academiciens, soit parmi des gens de lettres qui n'appartiennent pas a ce corps scientifique. Ces biblioth^caires sont : pour la section des livres Russes, M. SokolofF, secretaire perp^tuel de I'Academie Russe ; pour celle, des livres etrangers, M. Sjogren, membre de I'Academie des Sciences, lis sont second^s par deux aides. Les autres cabinets et musees sont confies k la direction des membres de I'Academie,. savoir : 1. L'Observatoire a M. Wisniewsky. 2. Le Cabinet de Physique a M. Parrot. 3. Le Laboratoire Chimique a M. Hess. 4. L' Atelier Mecanique a MM. Wisniewsky et Parrot. 5. L'Observatoire Magnetique a M. Kupffer. 6. Le Musee Min6ralogique a M. Kupffer. 7. Le Musee Botanique a M. Trinius. 8. Le Musee Zoologique et Zootomique a M. Brandt. 9. Le Mus6e Asiatique k M. Frahn. 10. Le Musee Egyptian, ainsi que 11. Le Musee Numismatique et d'Antiquites, £l M. Grafe. Enfin, 12. Le Cabinet de Pierre I., et 13. Le Musee Ethnographique et d'objets d'Art, a un surveillant. La plupart de ces directeurs sont secondes dans leurs travaux par des aides qui portent le nom de conservateurs. Les directeurs (a I'exception toutefois des bibliothecaires.) ne sont point salaries, vu que cette fonction est inseparable de leurs qualit^s d'acad^miciens. Les frais d'entretien de ces divers 6tabhssemens ne sont point fiies. L'6tat de I'Academie n'y foumit qu'une partie tr^s insignifiante. L'Academie y supplee de ses fonds 6conomiques, c'est-a-dire, du produit'de son industrie. Ces frais se montent au-del4 de 40 a 50,000 roubles par an. Quelquefois I'Academie a recours ^ la munificence de I'Empereur. ' L'achat des instrumens pour I'observatoire central coutera au-del^ de 200,000 roubles ; et I'etat annuel de cet etablissement est fixe k 47,000 roubles par an. L'admission du public aux musses n'est pas encore dument r^glee, a cause du manque d'un local convenable a ce but, et du nombre insuffisant des employes. Des personnes qui s'interessent aux sciences ont le libre acces k toutes ces collections, s'ils s'adressent imm^di- atement aux directeurs. Les collections precieuses, et celles oules objets sont a decouvert, ne . sont point accessibles au gros du public. Une histoire assez detaill^e des collections de I'academie, jusqu'a I'an 1776, se trouve dans I'ouvrage, @t. ^mvMtgifditi ijoutnar, 1776, Stet ^Cinb, Depuis 1826, il s'en publie reguUerement chaque annee un compte rendu dans I'ouvrage, Recueil des Actes des Stances publiques de I'Academie; Annees 1826-1833. (signe) Fuss, Secretaire Perpetuel de I'Academie. (Pour copie conforme :) Eugene Wonlar-Larshy, Le Secretaire pour la Correspondance fitrangere. (Enclosure 3 in No. 2.) Enclosure 3 ii" '^^ Bibliothlque Imperiale Publique de St. Petersbourg fut formee primitivement de in No. 2. '^^if *^? Zaluski, apportee de Varsovie en 1796, et augmentee ensuite par differentes autres collections. 2. Sont attaches a cet etablissement : un directeur, recevant 8,000, argent de table ; un adjomt du directeur, sans appointemens ; 7 bibliothecaires, a 2,700 roubles ; 4 sous-biblio- thecaires, k 1,200 roubles ; 3 copistes. El 600 roubles. 3. La somme affectee annuellement a l'achat des livres peut s'^lever parfois aux environs de 7,000 roubles., EUe se compose des Economies faites sur les depenses pour I'entretien des maisons appartenantes a la dite bibliotheque. 4. Les frais annuels pour I'entretien de la biblioth^e et les emoluments des employes, montent a 45,000 roubles. 5. Les fonds employes a cet effet sont fournis par le Gouvernement 6. Le public est admis dans la bibliotheque le Mardi da chaque semaine, depuis 11 heures du matin jusqu a 3heures apr^s midi, pour visiter cet etablissement, etles Mercredis, Jeudis, et Vendredis, depms 10 heures du matin jusqu'a 8 heures du soir, pour y lire et faire Ct6S €XXr9,ltS» 7. Les bibliothecaires sont, MM. Krylof et Popof, conseillers d'etat. MM. Vostokof, Vassilievski et Lobanof, conseillers de college. M. Komorski, conseiller de cour. M. Atkinson, conseiller honoraire. 8. Le nombre des livres imprimesde la Bibliotheque Publique, en comptant ses nouvelles et grandes acquisitions, s eleve a pres de 400,000 volumes. 9. Celui des manuscrits pourra aller £l 16,000 volumes. 10. Les SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 449 10. Les reglemens de la Bibliothfeque Imperiale Publique, confirm^s par feu TEmpereur Appendix, No. 32. Alexandre I., sont consignes dans le livre ci-joint, imprime en 1812, et intitule, "Actes " '. relatifs h, laNouvelle Organisation de la Bibliotheque Imperiale." Le systfeme bibliographique a ^te compose par le directeur Olenin en 1808, II fut consigne dans un volume particulier, imprim6 en 1809, et dont on joint un exemplaire k ces r^ponses. 11. Des comptes rendus ou rapports imprimis annuels, concemant la Bibliotheque, ont ete publics pour les annees 1814, 181.5, 1816 et 181'7, en langue Russe ; depuis ce terns on les presente au ministere de I'instruction publique, h. la fin de chaque annee, par ecrit. (signe,:) Le Directeur de la Bibliotheque Imperiale Publique, Olenin. (Pour copie conforme :) Eugene Wonlar-Larsky, Le Secretaire pour la Correspondance fetrangSre. Sub-Enclosure (A.) in No. 2. ACTES relatifs Ei la Nouvelle Organisation de la Biblioth^qiie Imperiale. Sub-Enc]osure(A.) (Traduits du Russe.) in No. 2, (A.) RESCRIPT de Sa Maje'ste au Directeur, en Chef de la Bibliotheque Imperiale, feu Mr. ]e Comte Stroganof, Conseiller Prive Actuel de la premiere classe. Comte A S , J 'a I vu avec plaisir d'apr^s votre rapport, que la bibliotheque confiee a vos soins, a atteint le degre d'ordre necessaire. Desirant hS,ter le moment od pour I'utilite generale cette bibliotheque sera ouverte au public, je confirme par le statut ci-joint, le mode et les frais de son administration. En vous envoyant ce,statut pour le mettre en execution, je vous, r^itere ma reconnaissance des soins que vous avez pris de cet etablissement, et vous charge en m^me tems de temoigner ma bienveillance particuliere pour le mfime objet a votre adjoint, le Conseiller Prive Olenin; Je suis votre affectionn6, (L'original, signe de la main de sa Majeste Imperiale :) St. Petersbourg, le 14 Octobre 1810. Alexandre. (B.) Ce statut dans l'original est confirme, comme il suit, de la main de sa Majesty ^ " • Soit fait ainsi, St. Petersbourg, le 14 Octobre 1810. Statut d'Administration pour la Bibliotheque Imperiale Publique. I, Organisation de la Bibliotheque, I 1. La Bibliotheque Imperiale Publique est du ressort du Ministere de I'instruction Publique, sous la direction particuliere d'un directeur en chef. , , , . . . , & 2? Le directeur en. chef a son adjoint charge immediatement de 1 admmistration des affaires de la bibliotheque, tant pour la partie litteraire, que pour la partie economique. § 3. Le directeur en chef est nomme par sa Majesty, et son adjomt est confirme sur la representation du directeur. § 4. Tous les autres employes sont nommes par le directeur en chef. § 6. 11 y aura k la bibliotheque sept biblioth^caires, sept aide-biblioth6caires, un conser- vateur des manuscrits et son aide. Le nombre des copistes et des servants de la biblio- theque est d^termio^ par I'^tat ci-joint. II. Fonctions des Employes en geniral. § 6. La bibliotheque est divisee en sections. ^ , • j § 7. Chaque biblioth^caire aura sous sa direction et responsabilite une ou plusieurs de ces sections. § 8. Les obhgations principales des bibliothecaires sont : 1°. De veiller & la conservation des livres. 2°. De r^diger et continuer le catalogue syst^matique. 30. De i-ecevoir ceux qui viennent visiter la bibliotheque et de leur foumir les notions ; n^cessaires pour la partie confine a la direction de chacun des employes. & 9 L'aide-biblioth^caire a les m^mes fonctions et la mime responsabihte. I 10. Les fonctions du conservateur des manuscrits et de son aide sont les memes que celles du bibliothecaire. ; ' & 11 Le 479. 3 m ^ • 450 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. Russia. § 11. Le directeur en chef nommera un des bibliothecaires ou aid^-bibhothecaires pour gerer sous I'mspection immediate del'adjoint-directeur las affaires de la bibliotheque : cet employ^ sera charge de la correspondance officielle avec les tribunaux et les particuliers. On lui assignera une auo-mentation d'appointemens sur les sommes restantes en caisse. § 12. On nommera conform^ment aux m6mes dispositions un des employes pour remphr les fonctions d'^conome. II sera tenu de veiller k la suret6 et h la proprete des maisons appartenantes S, la bibliotheque, d'avoir soin de leur reparation et conservation, en un rnot, de toute la partie economique de la bibliothSque. Le meme employe fera I'office de caissier, et rendra compte en cette qualite h I'adjoint-direeteur. III. Moyens Pecuniaires. § 13. Outre les revenus que le decret imperial du Juillet 1801 assigne a la bibliotheque, elle recevra encore annuellement la somme fixee par I'etat ci-joint, tant pour son entretien que pour les appointemens des employes. Elle touchera une fois pour toutes la somme necessaire pour I'acquisition des objets qu'elle devra se procurer pour pouvoir etre ouverte au public. IV, Moyens d'accroissement. § 14. II sera assign^ avec le tems un fonds suffisant pour acquerir les ouvrages qui man- quent h. la bibliotheque, et se procurer en tout tems les livres nouveaux. § 15. La direction de la bibliotheque se procurera en attendant les ouvrages les plus necessaires, soit en echangeant les doubles, soit en tirant le meilleur parti possible des ouvrages depareilles.^ ' § 16. La bibliotheque aura desormais le meme droit que I'Academie des Sciences, celui d'exiger gratis deux exemplaires de chaque ouVrage imprim6 dans toute I'etendue de I'empire. § 17. Le directeur en chef designera en outre les ouvrages necessaires pour completer la bibliotheque, et qui doivent Itre fournis par le St. Synode, le Senat dirigeant, I'Academie des Sciences, et les Universites. § 18. Pour augmenter le nombre des manjiscrits, la direction est en droit d'exiger des copies collationnees de tous les ecrits qui ont rapport k I'histoire de Russie, et qui sont conserves dans les differentes archives, ainsi que dans les etablissemens ecclesiastiques et civils. § 19. La bibliotheque pourra faire venir de I'etranger les livres dont elle aura besoin sans payer les droits pour la reUure. (C.) Get etat dans I'original est confirme, comme il suit, de la main de sa Majeste Imperiale : Soit fait ainsi. St. Petersbourg, 14 Octobre 1810. fitat de la Bibliotheque Imperiale. Directeur en jchef - Adjoint du directeur en chef Bibliothecaires Aide-bibliothecaires Conservateur des manuscrits Aide du conservateur Copistes /P''^"^if ^ \second - Servants de la bibliotheque Pour leurs uniformes Nombre des Emploj^s. 1 1 7 7 1 1 1 1 13 } Appoirilemens. a chacun. Roubles. Roublet. Regoivent leurs ap- pointemens d'autre part. 1,200 000 1,200 900 400 300 100 ) 8,400 6,300 1,200 900 700 1,300 200 Pour la reparation des maisons de la bibliotheque, chauffage, plumes, encre, papier et pour la rehure; pour augmentation d'appointemens du secre- taire et de 1 econome, et autres d6penses annuelles . - - 8,000 II faut retrancher de cette somme 2,500 roubles que la bibhotheque retire du loyer des boutiques plac6es dans la maison qui lui appartient. Ce re- venu etant employe pour faire face en partie aux depenses ci-dessus enoncees, il restera a recevoir du Cabinet Imperial - - _ _ Total - - - 19,000 5,500 24,500 Rema7-que SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 451 , Remarque. — L'argent restant en caisse aprSs les depenses faites, ainsi que celui qui pour- Appendix, No. 32. roit provenir des places d'employes vacantes, pourra ^tre employe pour I'achat ,et la reliure des livres. Communications L'origlnal signe : respecting Literary Comte A lemndre Stroganof. Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. (P.) 2. Russia. DfeCRET de Sa Majeste au Ministre de rinstruction Publique, Mr. le Conseiller Prive = Actuel, Comte de Rasoumowski, Au Ministre de V Instruction Publique. La. Bibliothfeque Publique, en vertu du statut confirme le 14 Octobre 1810, appartenant au Minist^re de I'Instruction Publique, doit avoir, conformement k ce m^me statut, un directeur en chef particulier. La mort du Comte Stroganof ayant apport6 quelque changement eL cette derni^re dispo- sition, j'ai juge £1 propos pour eviter toute complication dans la partie administrative et pour etablir I'uniformite, de supprimer la charge du directeur en chef, ses fonctions rentrant par leur nature dans celles du Ministre de I'Instruction Publique. En consequence j'ai jug^ plus conVenable de nommer directeur le ci-devant adjoint pour remplir cette charge, conformement aux regies prescrites, et j'institue en la dite qualite I'adjoint-directeur actuel, le Conseiller Prive Olenin. L'original signe de la main de sa Majeste Imperiale : St. Petersbourg, le 13 Octobre 1811. Alexandre. (E.) DfeCRET de Sa Majeste au Ministre des Finances, Mr. le Conseiller Priv^ Actuel Gourief. A D , La Biblioth^que Imperiale a compter du !«' Janvier 1812 recevra annuellement, outre les 24,500 roubles assign^s pour son entretien, la somme de 21,000 R. payables sur le tresor de I'empire. L'original signe de le main de sa Majeste Imperiale : St. Petersbourg, le 10 Fevrier 1812. Alexandre. (F.) DfeCRET de Sa Majeste Imperiale, enonce au Senat Dirigeant, le 12 Fevrier 1812, par le Ministre de I'Instruction Publique, le Senateur Comte de Rasoumowsky. Sa Majeste a daigne approuver I'uniforme suivant pour les employes de la BibliothSque Imperiale. < Vhiforme de Parade. — Tel qu'il est represente dans le dessin ci-joint lettre (A.) *; habit de drap bleu de la mSme coupe que les uniformes des employes au civil ; collet montant et paremens de velours bleu ; le collet brod6 en or d'apr^s le dessin lettre (B.) ; la doublure d'etamine bleue ; culottes blanches. Unifm-me ordinaiw. — Frac de drap bleu d'apr^s le dessin lettre (C.) k revers et k deux raiigs de boutons ; collet tombant de velours bleu sans broderie ; les paremens et la doub- lure de drap bleu, pantalon de m6me couleur. On pent porter cet uniforme sans 6pee avec botteS. Les boutons pour les deux uniformes seront de cuivre aux armes de la Biblioth^que Impe- riale d'apr^s le dessin lettre (D.)* Les uniformes ainsi d6crits seront portes par les bibliothecaires, le conservateur des manusorits, etleurs aides; les employes attaches a quelques autres places dans le civil, sont dispenses de porter I'uniforme de parade. Si fe directeur et son adjoint n'ont aucun autre emploi dans le civil, ils porteront alors les m^mes uniformes, a I'exception des .paremens qui seront brod6s enor d'apr^s le m^me des- sin que le collet. LeS copistes porteront aussi le m^me uniforme, mais sans broderie. (G.) Ce rfeglement dans I'ooginal est confirme, comme il suit, de la main de sa Majest6 Imperiale : , Soit fait ainsi. St. Petersbourg, 23 Fevrier 1812. *Lesdessins designespar les lettres(A.)(13,) (C) et(,D.) ne.se trouvent joints qu'au decret original. 479. V 3 M 2 452 Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or T^ Sacree Conciles Dogmatique PoMmique Morale - Parenetique Contemplative - Sciences Intellectuelles. Textes originaux. Bibles Hebraiques et Grecques. 17^ . f Vulsrate et autres versions Latines. Tra- \ ductions en langues vivantes. Bibles polyglottes, Livres apocryphes. ^Histoire et Figures de la Bible. 'Bibliothfeques ou collections des SS. P^res- „o px rdes 4 premiers Si^cles. ■ ^- ..^^ . J du 4me Siecle j usqu a Photius. Urientaux^t | jgp^ig Photius jusqu'a I'origine de la l.atms - - I xh6ologie Scholastique. Interpr^tes. Scholiastes. Glossateurs. Apparats de la Bible. Exegese. Harmonies et conciliations. Traites critiques sur les rits, les mceurs, la geographic et autres objets mention- - nes dans I'Ecriture. rConciles generaux et oecumeniques. J particuliers. [ provinciaux ou Synodes. rSommes des anciens Scholastiques. J Cours de Theologie modernc. [Traites particuliers. ICatechismes. Instructions sur dilFerens points de la Religion. Ouvrages k I'usage du peuple. Apologies de la Religion. Traites generaux. rContre les incredules. J ■ Juifs. [ Heretiques. Conferences, Controver^es. rTraites generaux. < — '- particuliers. [Casuistes. , Homilies, prones. rSur les Myst^res. Sermons -< — la Morale. LM61angefe. Missions. I, Mandemens, Lettres pastorales. ("Traites sur la perfection chretienne: rMystique -I ■ I'amour de Dieu. I UQuietisme.) [Exercices de Piete. Ascetique -i Meditations. iLivres de pri^res. Scholastique — particuliers .974 Ou Jitt6rature proprement dite. 3 N 4 464 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32, Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. Russia. Historique I Heterodoxie ^Histoire Ecclesiastique generale. (Hist, des nations et des 6glises. de la hierarchie. des conciles. des heresies. Vies des Saints. Legendes. Martyrologes. Biographies - Vies des Papes, des Patriarches, des Car- dinaux, et autres personnages illustres. Relig. Chreti- jHeresies anciennes. ennes - - \Reformateurs nouveaux. Relig. etran- [Payenne. g^res au Chris- J Judai'que. L tianisme - [Mahometane. Droit ecclesi- astique des ^glises d'Ori- ent et d' Occi- dent Jurisprudence Droit civil Trait^s preparatoires. Institutions, dictionnaires. ' Actes des conciles. Bases du droit ecclesiastique Droit canon public - Droit canon prive - Corps de droit canon et leur commenta- teurs. Decisions des Patriarches, des Ev^ques. Decr^tales, bulles des Papes. fTraites de la puissance ecclesiastique, deft la hierarchie, et de la primaute du Pape § et des Patriarches. ^ ' Traites des elections et nominations. Concordats, pragmatiques. Droits et prerogatives des legats, car- dinaux et autres personnes ecclesias- . tiques. Discipline ecclesiastique. monastique. * Censures, excommunications, inquisi- tions. Traites sur le mariage, le divorce, les dis- penses. L Liturgies, ceremonies religieuses. Droit ecclesiastique des Protestans. ' Des Juifs, des Grecs, des Asiatiques. (Droit avant Justinien. de Justinien. Commentaires, Critiques. t Droit Romain nouveau, codes de lois des t nations modernes. "Code civil. criminel. fi^odal. militaire. -Legislations anciennes Legislations modernes .Parties separees Droit public Jurisprudence pratique, .^Plaidoiers, factums, memoires. Introductions, traites g^neraux, anciens et modernes, de politique r Droit naturel. I des gens Exterieur Interi- eur - Constitution - • Administration j ^raites, conventions, alliances. [ Diplomatique. 'Traites du Prince ou du Souverain. • des corps de I'etat ; Di^tes, Parle- mens, Senats. Traites des personnes particulieres, mini- stres, fonctionnaires publics, noblesse, etc. ' Etat militaire. Finances. Police de surete. de perfectionnement. Economie politique *. -Commerce. * noAHmnqecRaH akoHoma hah rocyAapcmBeHHoe xosHftcmBO. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 465 Philosophie - 4. -Histoire Speculative Pratique rLogique et dialectique. < fOntologie. lM6taphysique - < Psychologie. LTheodic^e, ou Theologie naturelle. 'Droit naturel. Religion naturelle. -Morale - . Trait^s particuliers Iraites. particuliers sur des objets de mo- rale. ,Maximes, sentences. Appendix, No. 32. Commnnications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. Russia. P^dagogique - Traites g6n6raux d'education. Education physique. psychologique. • Ouvrages pour I'instruction. I'amusement. Philosophes Anciens - Du moyen &ge . Modemes et Sophistes {Pythagoriciens. Platoniciens. Peripateticiens. - Scholastiques. {Cartesiens. Leibnitziens. ' Kantistes. Syst^mes melanges. ''Irr^ligion en, general. Atheistes. Mat^rialistes. Deistes. Illumines. Martinistes. fNecromancie. A1 h° Predictions ou devinations. 'Geographie ancienne et moderne. Geographic g6nerale et ' Historique Geographie ■'Notions preli- minaires particuliere. Cartes geographiques. Voyages, relations. T> li- X fStatistique s6nerale. Politique et J 1_ |gg ^^ti^^g gt j^ Histoire propre- ment dite L Statistique ^ provinces particuli^res. f Technique., Chronologic - < Tables Chronologiques. tChroniques, Annales. fDe tons les &ges et de tous les pays. Des periodes particuli^res \-n def histoire gen^rale -1^" Notions secon- ^ daires - Particuh^re Antiquites I Chevalerie . moyen age. [Moderne. 'Des nations et d'etats particuliers. D'evenemens et de periodes particuli^res. I Memoires. 1 Biographies. Dictionnaires historiques. ^Histoire des villes. {Archeologie ou monumens de I'art. Numismatique, monnoies, medailles. Diplomatique, chartes et anciennes ecri- tures. f Genealogies. - < Blason ou heraldique. [institutions des ordres de chevalerie. Histoire Naturelle - 479. Sciences^ Naturelles. ' En general rHistoire de la formation et des changemens I delaterre. 1 Descriptions gen^rales de la nature. I Dictionnaires d'histoire naturelle. rZoologie. Parties separ^es < Botanique. [Mineralogie 3 O 466 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 3a. Comniunications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. Russia, 6. Medecine Physique 8. Chymie En general r Systfemes et m^thodes anciennes et modernes. ) Traites g^n^raux. 1 Trait6s m61ang6& sur plusieurs parties. I Dictionnaires. En particulier . .1 1 • fAnatomie. Anthropologie (physjologie. rPathologie proprement dite. - \ Nosologic. ISemiotique. fDi6t6tique. I. Orthopedic, f Mati^re medicalc. - •{ Clinique. LPharmaccutique. /Nosologic chirurgicale. Llnstrumens, operations. Pathologic Hygiene Therapie Chirurgic Connaissances medicales re- latives ^d'au- tres Sciences. Medecine Ve- terinaire 1 Geographic medicalc. IConnaissanccs des h6pitaux. I Medecine legale. fZootomic. J Hygiene. j Pathologic. l-Chirurgie. En general Parties separecs" Pure Appliqu6c Traites g^neraux des loix et propriet^s des corps. Dictionnaires de Physique. 'Pneumatologie. Meteorologie. Electricite. Magnetisme. Galvanisme. [Systfemes anciens et modernes. - < Recherches particuliferes sur Ic r^gne mineral. LRecherchcs particuli^res sur le r^gne animal et vegetal. fPharmacic (voycz Medecine.) - \ Metallurgic. LChymie Technique. Sciences Exactes. 9. Mathema- tiques Pures , Mixtes - . I (Arithmetique. Calcul infinitesimal. — integral et difFerentiel. f Geometrie proprement dite. . Geometrie - -^ Trigonometric. [Geometric transcendante. Statique. Hydrostatiquc. Mecanique - J Dynamique. Hydraulique. Architecture. Acoustique, ou theorie des sons. Optique iOptique proprement dite. Catoptrique. Dioptrique. Perspective. Astronomic. Gnomoniquc. Sciences Astro- I Cosmographie. nomiques - Geographic Mathematique. Hydrographie. .Navigation. Tactique proprement dite. Castram6tation. Tactique - \ Artillerie et Genie. Architecture militairc. Strategic. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 467 Arts. / Traites genlraux et m^Iang^s. Descriptions de machines. Dictionnaires. 1. Arts Mecani- ques Economie L Exploitation r Mines et fonderies. du r^gne mi- J Salines, neral - - [Carri^res. (Economie rurale en general. Agriculture. Jaramage. Culture de la vigne. {Entretien du b^tail. Chasse, p^che. Abeilles et vers \ soie. Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2i Russia. Technologie [■Manufactures, Usines. i. Fabriques. iM^tiers. ' Traites g6neraux et melanges. Histoires de I'art. Biographies, Dictionnaires. Gymnastiqfte des anciens. -Danse. Gymnastique "^'"^"'^ des modemes 2. Arts Lib^raux , Gymnastique - Musique Peinture Beaux Arts - Eloquence - , Polsie 179. Sci;ilpture Architecture Rheteurs Orateurs Epistolaires - Narrateurs Melanges Traites Ele mentaires 3 o 2 Equitation. Natation. Jeux. 'Ouvrages th^oriques. (Euvres de jSSire ^™^--ldeSocgtl; Vocale. Instrumentale. 'Ouvrages elementaires. ■Dessin proprementdit. Planographie. Dessin - J Calligraphic. ( Gravures en bois et en cuivre. iCollections de gravures. Peinture proprement dite. Descriptions de galeries et collections de tableaux. Arts du modeleur. En pierres^ en metaux, et en bois. Gravures en pierres fines. Art du m^dailleur. Art typographique. /Publique. Particuli^re. Economique-|g"^f^; . ^ LHorteologique. Descriptions d'6difices. ,Vues, plans. r Anciens et modernes. < Livres elementaires, rh^torique. iModeles, chrestomaties. Sacr6s (voyez Theologie). Politiques. Philosophiques. Acad^miques. .Panegyristes. /Anciens. \ Modernes. rRomans. - 1 Contes. [Voyages amusans, etc. _ f Dialogues. \Fac6ties. ' fMythoiogies anciennes et modernes.- i Poetiques en prose et en vers. [Dictionnaires, prosodies. 468 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 3a. Comm unications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. Russia. Arts Oratoires 1, Linguistique PolygrapLie Poesies rEpop6es anciennes. £ ■ g _< — modemes. " ^ L — sur des sujets plaisans. Sur des sujets r^ligieux. — philosopliiques. — historiques. — relatifs aux arts et aux sciences. Didactique Lyrique All^gorique Satyrique Poesies diver- ses fHyranes. _ jOdes. 1 Cantates. I Chansons, ballades, etc. /Allegories, embl^mes, etc. ■ 1 Fables. _ fSatyres. tEpigrammes. Elegies. Idylles. Eclogues. Epitres. Madrigaux. Sonnets, &c. Tragedies. Comedies. Drames. Operas. J Parodies. Dramatique - < Mysteres, farces, sottises. /f Declamation. Gestes, pantomimes. Theatres. ' Machines, decorations. Costumes. Histoire des Theatres et Biograp. d'acteurs. Accessoires > dramatiques (^ Melanges de poesies Philologie. Methodes g^nerales pour I'^tude des langues Histoire des.langues. Comparaisons, rapprochement des langues. Dictionnaires polyglottes. iHebraique. Arabe. Syriaque. Chiaoise, etc. Langues Euro- J^'^^5=1^e. peennes mor- \ ^f *'°^" tes - - Slavone. ^Celte, etc. Langues Euro, peennes vi. V vantes - Deriyees du Latin. D'origine Germanique. — Slavonne. 3. Critique -< lygraphes - 1 Encyclop6dies. ( Melanges, choix dfe lectures. Auteurs Poly- \^^ "'^^^^ graphes - 1 ;™ F°se. ^ ^ iM^langes. ^ Traites g6n^raux de critique, ouvrages d'estetique. Lntiques et commentateurs anciens et modernes Joumaux et gazettes litt6raires. Satyres, defenses, apologies, rapports, recensions. Des 6tablisse- fU^'^^Jsit^s. mens litte- \ Academies, societ6s litteraires et econo- raires - - 1 Piques. Des savans ^^^^''^^' ^f %es, lyc^es, etc. Jjes savans - Biographie des savans. Des livres ou jConnaissance des mati^res. Bibliographic 1 „, .T~ des editions. , LClassification des livres. Histoire litte *" raire SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 469 Novum Systema Bibliographicum. Anno 1808. I. SciENTIiE. Sc. Rationales. 1. Theologia. 2. Jurisprudentia. 3. Philosophia. 4. Historia. Sc. Naturales. 5. Historia naturalis. ^. Medicina. 7. Physica. 8. Chymia. Sc. Exacts. 9. Mathesis Piira et Mixta. II. Ahtes. 1. Mecanicae. 2. Liberales. 3. Oratorise. III. Phjlologia. 1. Linguistica. 2. Polygraphia. 3. Critica. Appendix, No. 32. Communications lespectingLiterary^ Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. Russia. Theologia - Hierographia, seu Sacra Scriptura Patres Hermeneutica, seu Explana- tio Scripturae. , ScienticB Rationales. Textus origi- fBiblia Hebraica. nales - - \ Grseca. fVulgata et cseterse versiones Latinae ver- l_ siones in linguas vulgares. Versiones Concilia Dogmatica / [ Polemica Moralis _ < Paraenetica - ' Contemplativa Historica Biblia polyglotta. Libri apocryphi. Historiae et icones Biblicae. BibUothecae seu coUectiones Patrum. SS. Patres fTrium priorum saeculorum. — A saeculo Orientales et \ quarto ad Photium. — A Photio usque Occidentales I ad originem Scholasticae Theologiae. flnterpretes. ' Commentatores^ Scholiastae. iGlossatores. Apparatus Biblici. Critica, seu Exegeses. Philologia ' Harmoniae et conciliationes. sacra - - Tractatus de ritibus, moribus, geographia, . et caeteris, in scriptura memoratis. Concilia generalia et cecumenica. particularia. provincialia, seu Synodi. f Summae veterum Scholasticorum. Scholastica - s Cursus Theologici Recentiorum. ITractatus singulares. fCatechismi. Catechetica s InstitutionesdevariisReligionis capitibus. LOpuscula ad usum vulgarem. Apologias pro R^ligione Tractatus generales. m ^ j^ rContra incredulos Tractatus sin- I gulares - | Colloquia publica et Disputationes. Universa. Tractatus singulares. Casuistae. Homiliae. hsereticos. Judaeos, Mahometanos. 479. rDe mysteriis fidei. < De moralibus capitibus. LMiscellaneae. Missiones. Litterae pastorales. f De virtutibus Christianis, ' \De amore Dei. Quietismus. I Exercitia spiritualia. i Meditationes. iLibri precatorii. Historia Ecclesiastica generalis. . „. , . _, f Nationum et Ecclesiarum particularium Histonca Ec- I jjj^^^^^j^j^ I Conciliorum. l-Haeresium. Martyralogia. Legendae. Vitae Sanctorum, vitae Pontificum Roman orum, Cairdinalium, JPatriarcharum, et aliarum personarum illustrium. o 3 Conciones Mystica Ascetica clesiastica specialis Biographia Ecclesiastica 470 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. i2. Russia. Heterodoxa - Jus Ecclesias- ticum Orien- talis et Occi- dentalis. Ecclesiarum - 2. Jurispru- dentia Jus Civile ' (sic.) Jus Publicum - f Secte Chris- rVeteres Haeretici. tianorum - \Novi Reformatores. Religiones non rEthnicse. Christianae, J Judaica. L seu Infidelium [Mahometana. Tractatus prseliminares. Institutiones, Dictionaria. Acta Conciliorum. Corpus luris Canonici et Pontes - - I C)o™«ientatores. DecretalesetBullBePontificumRomanorum Decisiones Patriarcharum, Episcoporum, &c. Tractatus speciales de potestate ecclesias- tica,de hierarchia, primatu Papse, juribus Patriarcharum, 8cc. Jus Canonicum De Electionibus, nominationibus, &c. ' publicum - De juribus et prserogativis Legatorum, Car- dinalium et alianim personaram eccle- siasticarum. ■Concordata et Sanctiones pragmaticse. 'Disciplina ecclesiastica. Disciplina monastica. Jus Canonicum Decensurisecclesiasticis et inquisitionibus. privatum - ] De matrimonio, divortio, dispensationibus. LiturgiBB, seu officia divina publica, ISacri ritus, agendse, &c. ^Jus ecclesiasticum Protestantium. 'Jus Hebrseorum. Jus Graecorum et Asiaticarum gentium. Legislationes antiquae . Jus Romanum ("Ante Justinianum. I Justinianeum. 1 Commentatores. l-Critici. Legislationes /Jus Romanum novum, modemse - tCodices nationum modemarum. Codex Judicialis. — ^ Criminalis. Feudalis. Partes speciales { Militaris. Jurisprudentia practica seu proc. Judiciarius et forma cancellarise defen- siones causarum.* ' Introductiones et tractatus generales Politicorum veterum et modernorum. (Jus naturae. Jus gentium. Pacta, fcedera, conventiones, &c. Diplomatica, seu negotiationes politicae et legationes. (De suprema potestate, De ordinibus regni, comitiis, parliameutis senatu, &c. ' , De personis, speciatim de ministris, ficiahbus publicis, nobilitate, &c. otatus militaris. Reditus. Politia securitatis. CEconomia politica. •Commercium. Inter- num seu Consti- tutio. Admini- stratio of- Speculativa JLogica et Dialectica. iMetaphysica Practica Philosophia - < Moralis .Paedagogica JOntologia. i Psychologia. LTheodicea seu Theologia naturalis. I J us naturae purum. . ^ Religio naturalis. I^Tractatus morales varii. Sententiae morales. Tractatus de educatione. Educatio physica. moralis. Libri ad informationem. Opera ad recreationem discentium. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 471 Philosophi et Sophistse rPythagorici. Veteres - - J Platonici. [Peripatetici. Medii aevi, seu Scholastici. f Cartesian!. J Leibnitiani. 1 Kantistse. i' Systemata et opera miscellanea. Naturalistae, seu nuUius religionis. Atheistse. Recentiores 4. Historia - \ Paralipomena Historica Prolegomena Historica "{ Historia pro- pria dicta Appendix, No, 32. CommunkatLons respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign- Countries- 2. Russia. Deistae. Materialistse. -\ lUuminati. Martinistse. Scientise occul tse rNecromantia. I Astrologia Jiidiciaria. - I Alchymia. »-PrEedictiones et divinationes. rHistorica < Geograplua - ' Geographia vetus et nova, neralis et specialis, Atlantes et mappse. Geographiae et topographise .Itineraria et relationes. [Statistica generalis. specialis ge- , Chronolgia Universalis Specialis Antiquitates > Ars Heroica, seu equitum ordo - Politica seu Sta tistica - tNationum et provinciarum, ("Technica. ■ s Tabulae ChronologicsB. IChronica, Annales. (Omnium seculorum et nationum. Singularum gentium et regnorum. Eventuum et periodorum singularium. Ephemerides HistoricEe. Biographiae, ' Dictionaria Historica. .Historiae et descriptiones urbium. {ArchaBologia seu monumenta artium. Numismatica. Res Diplomatica, seu scientia veternm diplomatum et characterum. rGenealogia. ■' Heraldica. Statuta ordinum equestrium. \ ScienticB Naturales. 5. Historia Na- turalis fHistoria fonnationis et mutationum telluris. fGeneralis - s Descriptiones naturae generales. iDictionaria historiae naturalis. fZoologia. [Partes speciales J Botamca. l.Mineralogia. ( Generalis 6. Medicina Specialis 479. i Systemata et methodi veterum et recentiorum. Tractatus generales. ■^ — singulares. Dictionaria medica. r Anthropologia j^natornia. L jr o LPnysiologia. f Pathologia propria dicta. - < Nosologia. ISemiotica. _ fDisetetica. " \OrthopEedia. f Materia medica. - < Clinica. " tPharmaeeutica. f Nosologia Chirurgica. " \Instrumenta et operationes. Pathologia Hygiena Therapia Chirurgia 3 O 4 472 APPEJS^DIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. Russia. 7. Physica Specialis f Generalis nnaria ^- Partes speciales • 8. Chymia Pura Applicata ' Pura 9. Mathesis Mixta Scientise medi- TGeographia medica, cas relativae ads Ordinatio Nosocoraiorum. alias - - iMedicina forensis et politica. {Zootomia. Hygiena. Pathologia. Chirurgia. "Tractatus de proprietatibus corporum. Dictionaria Physica. ' Pneumatologia. Meteorologia. Electricitas. Magnetismus. '■Galvanismus. {Systemata vetera et moderna. Investigationes super regno mineralium. — ^ animalium. vegetabilium. {Pharmacia, vide Medicina. Metallurgia. Technica. Scientis Exactm, Calculus .Geometria ( Mechanica Acoustica. Optica - Scientise Astro- nomicsB Tactife {Arithmetica. Algebra. Calculus infinitesimalis. — integralis et difFerentialis. {Geometria elementaris. Trigonometria. Geometria transcend entali*. Statica. Hydrostatica. Dynamica. Hydraulica. ■Architectura navalis. {Optica propria dicta. Catoptrica. Dioptrica. Perspectiva. 'Astronomia. Gnomonica. i Cosmographia. Geographia Matheraatica. Hydrographia. Nautica. , Tactica propria dicta, Castrametatio. Res Tormentaria. Architectura militaris. •Strategia. Artes. ' Tractatus generales et miscellanei. Descriptiones machinarum. Dictionaria artium. Artes Mecha- nicas - QCconomia, seu Artes CEcono- micae - , Techuologia fos- f-Podinse raetalloram, et officinee fusoriEe^ _ "j — Salis. Tractatio silium - - , Lapidum f CEconomia rustica generalis Iractatio vege- I Agricultura. tabilium - | Cultura hortorum. Winearum. ani- J^,'^'"^ pecorum. _ \ Venatio, piscatura. Tractatio malium - 1 ~ LCura apium et bombycum.. fManufacturse. < Fabricse, officinsB majores. I Artes mechanicae seu fabriles. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 473 ''Tractatus generales et miscellanei. Historia artium liberalium. Biographia Artistarum. Dictionaria artium. Appendix, No, 32, 2. Artes Libe- rales Pictura - Sculptura Gymnastica - 1 Musica f Ars Saltatoria. - Gladiatoria. - Equitandi. - Natandi. -Artes lusoriae. [Ecclesiastica. 'I Theatralis. lUsualis. Architectura ' Gymnastica veterum Gymnastica modema [ Op. Theoret. - ! - Musicae - Vocalis. y Instrumentalis. Opera Elementaria. rProprie dicta. Ars Delineandi s Technographia. LChaligraphia, seu Ars scriptoria. Pictura proprie dicta. Chalcographia, seu incisio in ligno et sere. Collectiones tabularum seri incisarum. Descriptiones porticuum et collectiones tabularum pictarum. Plastica. Ars std.tuaria. Anaglyptica. Incisio gemmarum. Ars nummaria. , Ars typographica. r Publica. Privata. re • fRuralis. (Economica - [Hortensis. Descriptiones et prospectus ichnographici et orthographici sedificiorum; Comraunications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2, Russia. 3. Artes Orato rias - Poesis - ' Eloquentia - ' Rhetores Oratores Epistolographi Narratores Mixti - Apparatus Epica - Didacti^a Lyrica ^ AUegorica {Veteres et Recentiores. Prsecepta elementaria Rhetoric. Exempla, chrestomathiEe, phraseologise, loci communes, polyantheee. Sacri {Vide Theologia homiletica). Politici. Philosophici. Academic!. Panegyristae. r Veteres. \Moderni. fNarrationes fabulosse, vulgo Romanenses. < Apophthegmata,historiol8B,narratiunculse. [itinera fabulosa. /Dialogi. \Joci et facetiae. rMythologi veteres et novi. ) Preecepta Poetica soluto et ligato stylo. ' Prosodiae. Dictionaria, rVeterum. s Modernorum. iLudicra. rDe rebus sacris. j - philosophicis. 1 - historicis. I In ordine ad scientias et artes. f Hymn Jodk ICantilense. fAllegoriee, emblenmta, symbola. iFabulae, apologi. • ■1 479. 3 P 474 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. ' 2, Russia. Satyiica Varia rSatyrse. l_Epigrammata. rElegiee, Idyllia, Eclogse, et alia minora -\ poenaata. lEpistolae. Tragcedise. Comcedise. Parodise jocosae. Dramata sacra. Dramatica - Dramata ludicra. 'Declamationes. Mimica. Descriptio theatrorum. Accessoria MachinsB. theatro Ornamenta. Habitus. Historia spectaculorum Miscellanea Poetica. Biographia Actorum. Philologia. 1. Linguistica Polygraphia I' Method! generales docendi et discendi linguas. Historia linguarum. Collatio et analogia lingual urn. Dictiouaria polyglotta. {Hebraica. Arabica. Syriaca. Sinica, etc. iGrseca. Latina. Slavonica. Celtica, etc. (Ex Latina derivativa. Ex Slavonica. Ex Germanica. Ex Celtica. De Linguis Asiaticis De linguis Europseis mortuis De linguis Europseis modernis Opera grapha Autores graphi Poly- "Ephemerides et Acta litteraria Academia- rum et Societatum. EncyclopsediBe. Excerpta varia ex authoribus Miscellanea. Poly-rMetrici. -< Prosaici. [Miscellanei. 3. Critica Tractatus critici generales. Critici et commentatores veteres et moderni. Diana et novelise litterarise. Satyrse, invectivse, apologiEe, relationes, recensiones. Estetica. Instituta litte-JF'^iTf ^'*^*^^? academic, raria - ."^Instituta, collegia, lycea, scholae. LSocietates litteratiae. litte- ( De Eruditis - Biographia eruditorum. De libris sivej^^*^*'^ '^°"*^"torum in libris. BibliooTaphia \- editionu^i. LDispositio hbrorum m Bibliothecis. Historia raria SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 476 Appendix, Nq. 32. No. 1. Ha^nncb zb 6bizmefi 3asyccKoii 'Bn6AiomeK3 z* Bapmai3. - Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- Cum losephus Andreas Junosza-Thabasz, braries in Foreign Comes in Zaluskie Zaluski, Countries. Supremus Regni Poloni Referendarius, ■""— Abbas Commendatarius 2. Russia. Fontaneti, et Assessor Statuum Parliamenti Divionensis in Burgundia, Villarice, Betnaci, et Consiliarius Preelatus honoris Parliamenti Nanceiani in Lotharingia, Ac Vanchocensis in Polonia, Prsepositus Regise Insignis Ecclesiae Varsaviensis, Cathedralis Cracoviensis Capitularis, Berolinensis, Bononiensis, Florentinse, Nanceianse, Petroburgensis, Aliarumque celebrium Scientiarum ac Bonarum Artium Academiarum Socius Honorarius, Nihil in h&c vita optaverit magis, quam de bonis omnibus, pro fortunsB Suae tenuitate, optime mereri ; Hancce Bibliothecam, In quS, mult6 maximam setatis partem transegit, Libris optimse notae, cujusvis idiomatis, ducentorum millium prope voluminum Sumtu magno, cura majori, constantiS, maximS, Ex disjunctissimis totius Europse terris, Spatio annorum XLIII conquisitis, Provisam ; In quS, diutumo studio hoc in primis didicit : Mortalia Contemnere Et Ignorantiam suam non Ignorare ; In ornamentum Patriae, Civiumque suorum perpetuam utilitatem, Publicam esse voluit : Adolescentibus illicium, senibus subsidium, Otiosis spectaculum, occupatis diverticulum, Studiosis negotium, Conditori gloriosum Monumentum. Maxim^ verb ea propter, quo Fidei Orthodoxse Et veterum Ecclesiasticae Disciplines rituum documenta, . Linguis omnibus expressa, Aliorumque librorum sacrorum multiplex copia conservarentur. Ad puram et incorruptam religionis doctrinseque veritatem, Pei-petu^ successione in cunctos derivandam. Celsissimus deinde Princeps Andreas Stanislaus-Kotska, Comes in Zaluskie Zaluski, Episcopus Cracoviensis et Dux Severiensis, Ordinis Aquilae Albae Eques, Anno reparatae humanae salutis MDCCXLII, ^dem banc, totius Varsavias veterrimam, Pertinentem olim ad illustrem Zalusciis sanguine conjunctorum Danieloviciorum familiam, A vetustissimis Haliciae Regibus ortam. Ex quS, matrem suam nactus est magnus ille Poloniarum Rex, loannes III. Sobiescius. In conspicuam istam molem transformari curavit : Inque hunc locum editum, perlucidum, nee minus salubrem quam jucundum, Fratris germani sui Bibliothecam transtulit. Codices quoque addidit praestantissimos Ex loannis III. Poloniae Regis musaeo, Andreae Olszowski, Regni Pol. Primatis, avunculi sui, libraria supellectile, Nee non Andreae Chrysostomi, S. R. I. principis, Episcopi Varmiensis, Et Ludovici Bartholomaei, Plocensis Antistitis, designati Gnesnensis Archipraesulis, Patruorum suorum, summorum Domus Zaluscianse luminum, Litterario apparatu, collectos : Tum etiam cimelia musaeoli sui adjunxit, Ac censum annuum assignavit, Unde huic thesauro incrementum quotannis sit accessurum. Anno autem Redempti Orbis MDCCXLVII, Regnante Augusto III, Principum hujusce atque onmis aevi Optimo, Ne quid vel Civium commodo, vel Urbis decori deesset, Liberalibus disciplinis, et litteris elegantioribus alendis excolendisque, Hocce Musarum Delubrum aperuit. Tandem losephus Andreas ille Zaluski, E Supremo Regni Referendario, Kioviae et Czemiechoviae Antistes, Regni Poloniae Senator Purpuratus, , 479. 3 p 2 Assistens 476 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. —~-~ Assistens Solii Pontificii Preelatus, Communications Albeeque Aquilse Torquatus Eques creatus, respectingLiterary Demortuo celsissimo germano, Institutions or Li- Aulam inferiorem, et sedes undique contiguas, proprio sere construxit, Countr"^'* ofeign LibrorLimque copiam immenso numero auxit; " Assidu& ver6 oper^ in dies adaugens, 3. Russia ^^ unquam, post fata sua, hicce Thesaurus vel diripi, vel loco sue moveri queat, ' ' Vivas iam supremas voluntatis suae tabulas confecit, anno H. S. MDCCLXI. In quibus religiose ac sancte constituit, Ut, eo ad superos abeunte, Hasc Bibliotheca, Cum omnibus aadificiis, hortis, areisque suis. Magna etiam sede, erigendo novo Typographeo destinat^, Collegio M^ori Societatis lesu Varsaviensi, Sempiternojure cedat; Eo omnino pacto, Ut hocce Eruditionis Sacrarium, Omnibus ac singulis diebus ferialibus, ^ Ab ipso matutino ad vespertinum tempus, Cuivis, vel legendi, vel videndi gratiS, advenienti pateat, Atque a quatuor ejusdem Collegii lectissimis viris Certatim ejus cura in perpetuum agatur. Opus vel Rege dignum nedum private. fTu herb Baranka Y niczey ped mm taka inskrypcya Sic vos, non vobis. Pieces Jtjstificatives. Traduction Zitterale de I' Inscription Latins de la Biiliothhque de Zaluski a Varsovie. Joseph Andre Junosza-Thabaz, Comte de Zaluskie Zaluski, Grand Referendaire du Royaume de Polog-ne, Abbe Commandataire De Fontanet, et Asseseur des etats du Parlement de Dijon en Bourgogne, Ainsi que de Villars et de Betnac, Conseiller d'honneur du Parlement de Nanci en Lorraine, > Ainsi que de Vanchocs en Pologne, Prevost de I'insigne eglise de Varsovie, Chanoine Capitulaire de la Cathedrale de Cracovie, Membre honoraire Des Academies de Berlin, de Bologne, de Florence, de Nanci, De Petersbourg, et de plusieurs autres cel^bres Academies des Sciences et Beaux Arts N'ayant jamais rien eu tant a coeur que de se rendre ' Utile aux gens de merite, autant que sa fortune le permettait, A fonde cette Biblioth^que, Oii il a passe la plus grande partie de sa vie, Et qu'il a enrichi de pr^s de 200,000 volumes des meilleurs auteurs Dans toutes les langues, rassembles pendant XLIII ans, Des contrees de I'Europe les plus eloignees, A grand frais, avec des peines infinies et une Constance infatigable. 11 y apprit surtout, par une etude assidue, A me^riser les vanites de ce monde Et a connaitre son ignorance ; Et, pour I'honneur de sa patrie, et I'avantage de ses compatriotes II voulut qu'elle fut publique ' Pour le charme de la jeunesse, la ressource de la vieiUesse La cunosite des oisifs, le delassement des gens occupes, ' Et les recherches des savans, Et pour gtre un monument glorieux h la m^moire de son fondateur • Surtout ^ar le som qu'il prit d'y rassembler ' Les depots sacres de la foi orthodoxe Dans toutes les langues, Et les hvres concernant les rites et la discipline ecclesiastique ; Afin ComJzSy'"''^''" '" "'""'' onginale de cette inscription) sent Sorites de la propre main du SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 477 .„,, iiNi • ■ ^ Appendix, No. 32. Ann de transmettre a tous, par une succgssion non mterrompue, JiE verite pure et incorruptible de la religion. Communications Ensuite le tr^s illustre Prince, respecting Literary Andr6 Stanislas Kotska, Institutions or Li- Comte de Zaluskie Zaluski, braries in Foreign Eveque de Cracovie et Due de Severie, Countries. Chevalier de I'ordre de I'aigle blanc, ~ A fait reparer et aggrandir, °' "Russia. ^ L'an de Grace MDCCXLII, Get edifice, le plus ancien de tout Varsovie, Appartenant autrefois al'illustrefamilledes Danielowitch,unieparles liens dusang aux Zaluski, Issue des anciens Rois de Galicie, Et de laquelle descendait par sa m^re le grand Roi de Pologne, Jean III Sobieski, Pour transferer la Bibliotheque de son frfere Dans ce lieu eleve, eclaire, et aussi sain qu'agreable ; Apr^s I'avoir enrichi de manuscrits precieux R6cueillis du mus^e de Jean III, Roi de Pologne, Etdes Bibliothequesd'Andre Olszewski, PrimatduRoyaumede Pologne, son oncle maternel, D'Andre Chrysostome, Prince du S. E. R., Eveque de Varmie, Et de Louis Barth^lemi, Eveque de Plocen, designe Archeveque de Gnesne, , Ses oncles paternels, et la gloire de la maison Des Zaluskis ; II y a ajout6 les collections de son cabinet, Et assign^ une rente annuelle Pour 1 'augmentation de ce tresor. L'an de Jesus Christ MDCCXLVII, Sous le regne d'Auguste III, Le meilleur des Princes de son siecle et de tous les ^ges, Ce temple des muses fut ouvert et rendu public, A la gloire de la ville et a I'avantage des citoyens. Pour nourrir et entretenir I'amour des sciences et des lettres. Enfin Joseph Andr6 Zaluski, Ancien grand Referendaire du Royaume de Pologne, Eveque de Kiovie et de Czernigov, S6nateur du Royaume de Pologne, Pr^lat assistant de sa Saint^te, Grand Croix de I'ordre de I'aigle blanc, Fit construire, apr^s la mort de son illustre fr^re, Le salon inferieur et les b^timpns contigus a ses propres frais, Et augmenta considerablement le nombre des volumes. Voulant emp^cher Que ce tresor, accru par ses soins, ne fut par la suite aliene ou deplac6, U a de son vivant consigne par ecrit sa volonte derni^re (en 1761), Declarant solennellement, Qu'apr^s sa mort, (/ette Bibliotheque, Avec tous ses edifices, cours, jardins, -Ainsi que le b^timent destin6 a une nouvelle Imprimerie, Appartiendra pour toujours Au grand college des Jesuites de Varsovie ; A la condition , Que ce sanctuaire de I'^rudition Sera, ouvert tous les jours et chaque jour de f^te, Depuis le matin jusqu'au soir, A tous ceux que la curiosite, ou le desir de s'instruire y attireront ; Et que la garde et les soins en seront confies A quatre des pCTes les plus distingues de ce college, Etablissement digne d'un Roi plutot que d'un particulier. Id has un belier * blazone, et au dessous Vinscription suivante : Sic vos non vohis. * Les armes de la maison de Zaluski sont, un b^Iier dans un champ de gueules. 479. 3 P 3 478 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications ^°- ^-^'^'•es amvfes par le premier Transport, d'aprfes la note de Mr. Bogdanof. rfisnRnfinw T,!tof!>i««r Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Totality des Livres. Countries. Nombre des Livres. Livres rares compris dans )a Totality. 2. Russia. LJvres Frangais - - 57,408 4,706 55,684 Francais - . . - - Allemands - - ' , ' ' ' 28 — Allemands — Latins 8 — Italieus - - - . 11,823 Latins - - . - 209 — Polonais - - - — Espagnols - 3,811 1,092 HoUandais - - 9 — Portugais - 58 Grecs . . - - . 4 — HoUandais — Anglais - - - - 85 Boh^miens - - - . • 1 • 42 — Suedois - - - - 12 Anglais 1 — Danois - . - — Bohemians - 3 16 Suedois . - . . . 1 — Russes ... . 17 Polonais ..... 1 — Lithuaniens . c — Grecs . 63 Espagnols 1 — H^breux - - - . 24 Arabes 14 — Arabe* - — Syriens . - - - 19 2 Grecs - ... 4 — Hongrois - 3 Hebreux ... 1 — Slavons - - - ^ 1 — Servians - 1 Chinois - ... 2 — Esthoniens . 1 Persans 1 — Saxons ... . 1 — Armenians . 3. Syriens - -• - 1 — Persans - . 1 Chald^ens . - - . - 1 — Chaldgens - 1 2 Livres rares - - — Chinois ... 289 De plus : Livres avec estampes - 134,884 724 Estampes en 75 liasses, au nombre de - - - . 16,044 Catalogues . - - _ 2,361 Dissertations, thes. serm. . 43,038 Incomplets ... . 1,152 Total - 182,159 second Transport. Livres arrives par le Anglais - . . - 4^326 HoUandais - - _ _ 2,498 Francais - - - I'sao Allemands - - - 32,463 Latins - - - _ 31^032 Grecs - - - . _ 25 Hebreux - . - . 14 Armeniens - - - . 7 Indiens . _ _ 3 Manuscrits - . 15 Russes - - - _ 4 Brochures, dissertations, etc. - 120,500 Catalogues de livres - - 4,564 Estampes - - 8,530 Livres d'estampes - - - 120 Incomplets - _ _ 650 Polonais - - _ _ 240 77,466 Lures manuscrits - 15 23 Fevrier 1796. . 77,481 Premier transport .. - - _ . 182 159 D'apr^s le total du second transport indique dans ' I original de cette note - . -_ -80 481 Total - - -262,640 .i 1°' ; ? V P''"^^ ^"^ f' ^^""^^^ ^'^^' P^"^ leq'i^l 1^ surveillance de la Biblioth^que, nT? ^^^^f r''' "'i f^"^^^;^^ Conseiller prive fcomte de Choiseul Gouffier? ^ BiWWh^nfpT '"^Pi /^"^r'T^^^^^^^^l^^ appointements des EmpWs & la Biblioth^que Impenale sous les ordres du Comte ChoiseuV Gouffier, nomm^ment L Coft- D^gouSkJ: '' ''''"" ^''^'^"'' '^ ^'^""^^"^ ^°"^'-' et'duToSr tituTat No. 5.. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 470 Tfo. 5. Note du nombre de volumes remis au College de M^decine en 1799. Livres Latins d'aprfes les deux catalogues : ler 1,094 2ncl _--_-.-__- 2,747 3,841 Livres Frangais ---------- 811 — AUemands --------- 749 — Anglais ----------40 Total - - - 5,441 -vols. Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 2. Russia. No. 6. Rescrit de I'Empereur, en langue Francaise, du 3 de Septembre 1798, au Comte "Choiseul Gouffier, sur le demembrement de la Biblioth^que de Varsovie. No. 7. Decret eman6 de I'Empereur, du 23 Janvier 1800, par lequel le Conseiller priv6 actuel Comte de StroganofF est nomme Directeur en Chef de la Biblioth^que Imperiale. No, 8. Lettre du Compte de StroganofF, du 18 Octobre 1801, au Chevalier d'Augard, sur I'organisation de la Bibliotheque Imp6riale. Mo. 9. Decret Imperial, du 7 Juillet 1801, qui ordonne au Cabinet d'annexer a. la Biblio- theque une des maisons attenantes a cet Edifice, pour le logement des employes. No. 10. Decret Imperial au Senat Dirigeant, du 23 Fevrier, par lequel Mr. I'Assesseur de College Doubrovsky est nomme Conseiller de Cour. No. 11. Rescrit de I'Empereur, du 27 Fevrier 1805, au Comte de StroganoiBF, pour 6tablir un depot particulier de manuscrits cedes k la Bibliotheque Imperiale par M. le Conseiller de Cour Doubrovsky, nomme par le mime rescrit Conservateur de ce depot, qui doit itre sous les ordres immediats du Directeur en Chef. No. 12. Rescrit de I'Empereur, du 27 Fevrier 1801, ^ I'aide ministre de I'exterieur Prince Tchartorysky, qui assigne au conservateur des manuscrits Mr. le Con. de Cour Doubrovsky, I'encaissement de 15,000 Rbls. No. 13. Decret Imperial, du 27 Fevrier 1805, qui ordonne au Cabinet remission annuelle ,de 3,000 roubles de pension, et de 1,200 roubles d'appointement, a Mr. le Con. de Cour Doubrovsky. No. 14. Rescrit Imperial, du 27 Fevrier 1805, qui accorde I'ordre de St. Anne de la seconde classe au Con. de Cour Doubrovsky, en recompence de son z^le et de ses sacrifices. No. 15. Extrait du registre des manuscrits d^livrespar la Bibliotheque Imperiale a Mr. le Cons, de College Doubrovsky. Total, 11,010 MSS. No. 16. Decret Imperial au Senat Dirigeant, du 27 Avril 1808, qui nomme le Conseiller d'etat actuel Olenin cOmme adjoint du Directeur en Chef des Bibliotheques Imperiales. , No. 17. Extrait des Rapports donnes par MM. les Employes de la Bibliotheque Imperiale, qui s'occupent de la redaction des Catalogues ; le 30 Juin 1808. Mr. le Conseiller d'etat de Torcy a mis en ordre et porte dans le Catalogue les livres suivants : Jurisprudence, au nombre de -------- 6,838 Arts et sciences ------ --_ 1,268 Philologie ------- _ - - 7,537 Histoire -- ..--^- - 8;418 24,086* Parmi ce nombre se trouve les livres Anglais et Polonais sur la heraldique, et une partie des livres sur I'histoire, portes dans le Catalogue par Mr. le Conseiller de Cour Brunet. Mr. le Conseiller d'etat Breitkopf a mis en ordre les livres Italiens : Theologie, au nombre de _.-.---- 3,803 Jurisprudence -- ------- 329 Sciences et Arts .-..-..--- 650 Litterature ----.._---- 3,467 Histoire - - -'%. - - - - - - - - 2,477 Incqmplets ----------- 952 11,678 II a inscrit aussi dans le Catalogue les livres Polonais, Bohemiens, Slavons et Latins, concernant La Theologie, au nombre de -------- 1,929 La Jurisprudence -----.__-- 309 Les Sciences et Arts ---_--.-- 100 La Litterature ---.--.--.- 795 L'Histoire ■ ,793 3,926. Mr. le Conseiller de College de Suchtelen s'occupe d'une notice d^taillee des livres im- primes dans le 15 siecle, depuis 1463 jusqu' «n 1500; le nombre de ces ouvrages se monte a, 450 volumes. 479. ^ 3 p 4 ' l^e * {sic.) Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Gountries. 2. Russia. 480 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Le Conseiller de Cour Brunei a mis en ordre et inscrit dans le Catalogue les livres Anglais et Frangais concernant La Theologie, au nombre de - - - - - - 4,231 Les Sciences et Arts - - - _ . - - 1,853 6,084 II a de plus inscrit dans le Catalogue, conjointement avec Mr. de Torcy, les livres Frangais sur I'histoire, ainsi que les livres Anglais et Polonais sur la heraldique. Mr. le Conseiller de Cour Dvigoubsky a mis en ordre et inscrit dans le Catalogue les livres Latins concernant La Theologie, au nombre de - . . . _ 28,576 L'Histoire - - - 3,703 32,279 Mr. le Conseiller de Cour Semiguinovski a mis en ordre et porte dans le Catalogue les livres Grecs, Latins et Frangais, concernant Les Sciences et les Arts, au nombre de - - . _ _ 1,916 La Litt^rature ------ -- 7,844 9,760 Les livres Grecs compris dans ce nombre montent a 2,188. Mr. le Conseiller de Cour Stavitzki a mis en ordre les livres Latins concernant Les Sciences et les Arts, au nombre de - - _ . - 6,090 L'Histoire - - - - - . - . _ i^267 7,367 Les livres compris dans ce nombre et portes dans le Catalogue montent a 982. Mr. le Conseiller tltulaire Popof a mis en ordre et inscrit dans le Catalogue les livres. Allemands concernant La Theologie, au nombre de-- .-___ 1,463 La Jurisprudence ---- ----- i,078 Les Sciences, Arts et Metiers ------- i,562 La Litterature ---------- 2,735 L'Histoire -- - 4,429 11,267 Ainsi, d'aprfes les rapports donnes et signes par MM. les Employes a la Biblioth^que Imperiale, le nombre des livres mis en ordre monte En Theologie, au nombre de - - - - _ - 38,073 — Jurisprudence --------- 8,245 — Sciences, Arts et Metiers - - - _ - _ 13^339 — Litterature - ------ 21,613 — Histoire - - - - - - - 20,294 — Incomplets ---------- 952 — Editions du 15 siecle - - - - - _ 450 102,966 Le nombre des livres inscrits dans les Catalogues monte . En Theologie, au nombre de-- - - - - - 36 199 — Jurisprudence - ------- 8,225 — Sciences, Arts et Metiers -------- 7,681 — Litterature --------- jg 941 — Histoire - - . - i7^'343 — Incomplets --------- 952 — Editions du 15 siecle - - - - - 450 89,791 No. i8 — LISTE Nominale des Personnes employees a la Bibliothfeque Imperiale, sous la Direction- de S. E. le Conseiller prive actuel Comte de Stroganof, Directeur en Chef. Employes a la Bibliolheque Imperiale, Adjoint du Directeur en Chef, leConseil- • ler d'etat actuel et Chevalier Olenin - Le Conseiller d'etat actuel Trembezki - Le Conseiller d'itat et Chevalier de Torcy .-.--. Breitkopf - - I.e Conseiller de College de Suchtelen Engelbach Dale de I'Entr^e au Service, Appointemens. He la B.I. 29 Avril 1808 Sans appoin- ■ temens. ' 11 Avril 1798 2,250 ' 5 Octobre 1 800 1,875 'Absens par conge. 21 Avril 1802 1,200 5 Janvier 1807 2,000 26 Mars 1804 900 - - Inspecteur du Gym- nase de St. Petersbourg. REPOET ON ILIE BR[TISH .Mil SJ;UM LLTERARY INSTITUTIONS IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES J'aea-de de VanaenM HublwLbtque de Zalijsrx. i_ r AoMS Hmuepaiopckou Baa Hi aoraehii l.'/f) OrdcreiJ bjliif' House of CoiQxrion.s lobePrmbed 6"'A,Li8"ust I8;>5. J 3a^ir^ la}>j,f REPORT 0.\ T\ii: BKITISH MUSEUM. LITERARY INHTITUTIONS EN TOREIGN COUNTRIT. S j/j/j y"'J',L • • WoMbL LI o mSei'eH'Htif ''dSofut nodi ird-ineloarnop^ [niperi A".>^ LITERACY INSTITUTIONS IN FOREIGN COUNTRIES iH'e,^ jicu^tt e iq9 Ordered byHieHou.se ofrommoas LoiePrintcd Axignst 6" l/5;)5 J.Tiajtrc Ulhocf SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 481 Employes a la Bibliotheque Imp6riale. Le Conseiller de Cour Antonofski — Strougofschikof - Le Conseiller de. Cour Brunei Dyigoubski Semiguinofski Stavitzki - - - Les Conseillers Titulaires : Popof Reinhardt - Mr. Laskowcki - Employes au Dfepot des Manuscrits : Conservateur du D^p6t des Manuscrits, le Conseiller de College et Chevalier Doubrowski . - - - - Son Adjoint, le Conseiller de Cour Lascowcki - - . . - Date de I'Entr6e au service, deUB.T. SSeptem. 1795 16 Mai 1806 6 Aout 1800 14 Juin 1797 30 Dec. 17 Juin 1796 1802 23 Dec. 1796 12 Juin 1795 1 Avril 1807 27 Fevrier 1805 17 Juin 1805 Appointemens. 600 900 900 900 900 600 450 450 300 Pension, 1,200 3,000 ■750 Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. Explication des Lettres indiquees sur les Plans de la Bibliotheque Imperiale. I-er Plan. — Etage superieur. A. B. C. D. E. Salons eontenants la partie Theologique. a. Plan general du b&timent et des cours appartenantes a la Bibliotheque Imperiale. b. Maison, oii logent Mrs. les employes a la dite ipiblioth^que. c. BiLtiment, qui sert de logement aux gardiens de cet 6tablissement. ]Y. B. — Place accord^e au General Lieutenant KalagrivoflP, et qui appartient presentement a I'aide de camp de sa Majesty Imperiale, le Colonel Balabin. Il-d Plan.— ^eZ etage. Le Salon K. contient la Jurisprudence et la Philosophic. J. H. G. F. I'Histoire. — I'Histoire Naturelle, la Physique, la Medecine, la Chymie et les Mathematiques. — Les Arts mecaniques, liberaux et oratoires. — La Philologie ou Litterature. iJesr de Chaussee. N. contiennent les Doubles et les Incomplets. P. renferment le Depot des Manuscrits et la demeure de leur conserva- teur, Mr. le Conseiller de Cour Doubrovsky. Les titres de cet Essai Bibliographique, les plans et les fa§ades de la Bibliotheque Im- periale, ont 6t6 graves par Mr. Kalpakoff. See Lithographic Plans annexed. Les Salons L, M. O. (3.)— PRUSSIA. R. Abercrombie, Esq. to Viscount Palmerston. My Lord, Berlin, 12 November 1834. * I HAVE the'honour to acknowledge the receipt of your Lordship's circular despatch, dated the 29th ultimo, transmitting a list of questions relative to the state of the national museums and libraries of Prassia. . / I shall not fail to collect as accurate and complete information upon these various points as it is in my power to obtain; and I trust shortly to be able to transmit to your Lordship the result of my inquiries. t , o I have, &c. (signed) R. Abercrombie. (4.) -DENMARK. Sir Henry W. Williams Wynn to the Duke of Wellington. My Lord Duke, Copenhagen, 24 March 1835. In reference to Lord Palmerston's circular despatch of the 29th of October, 1 have now the honour to transmit the answers to queries therein contained, relative to the state ot the national museums and libraries in this country. . , I have to apologize for the delay in sending it, arising from the dangerous illness ot tne person in whose hands I had placed the papers. ^ I have, &c. (signed) H. W^ Williams Wynn. 479. 3 Q (Enclosure 2. Russia. 3. PnussiA, 4. 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S T3 ^ >i -5 bb 2 a; *- ^ a> "^ ri cu o 2 a .■s o S3 M2, g So a •a g o (0 c« • a oJS •^ o •a «J .£3 .S o ■H *J •« c •Sg- a 3 a >; •2 •|^ S i F^ ■—a -o ' •s •a u 1 .9 a <« a a 3 13 1 1 3 d r a 1 ■5 V - s OJ 8 ■S f .f^ ■5 •-F .3 PP •S S?'^ ^ ■S " ^ ^•fl .J3 OJ u 3 ^ ^^ < '^ ^ ^- 479- 3 Q 2 484 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 33. Communications (5-) — BELGIUM. respecting Literary • Institutions or Li- Sir George B. Hamilton to the Duke of Wellington. braries in Foreign Countries. -^^ L^j.^^ -q^^^^ Brussels, 28 November 1834. B GiuM ^^ reference to a despatch, marked " Circular," which I received from Lord Palmerston, dated the 29th ultimo, instructing me to obtain information relative to the state of the ^"^ national museums and libraries in this country, I have the honour herewith to forward to your Grace, in original, the answers that I have received from the Minister of the Interior to the questions which I addressed to this government relative to those subjects. I have, &c. (signed) George B. Hamilton. (Enclosure 1, in No, 6.) M. de Nothomb to Sir George Hamilton. Monsieur le Chevalier, Bruxelles, le 26 Nov. 1834. Enclosure 1 PouK satisfaire a la demande que vous avez bien voulu m'adresser sous la date du 7 de ce in No. 5. mois, le departement des affaires etrang^res a transmis au Minist^re de I'lnterieur la liste des questions relatives aux musees et bibliotheques publiques que vous m'avez fait parvenir. Je m'empresse de vous envoyer le travail auquel ces questions ont donn6 lieu, travail qui • n'a pu 6tre termine plus tot, attendu que pour le completer le Ministfere de I'lnterieur a du recourir a la Regence de Bruxelles afin d'obtenir d'elle quelques renseignemens qu'il ne possedait pas. Veuillez agreer, monsieur le chevalier, les nouvelles assurances de ma consideration la plus distinguee. (signe) Le Sec. Gen. du D^p* des Affaires Et'rang^res : Notkomb. (Sub-Enclosure (A.) in No. 5.) MUSSES. Sub-Enclosure (A.) !• Y a-t-il un musee national consacre aux arts, aux antiquites, ou S. I'histoire naturelle in No. 5. ' dans la capitale de la Belgique ? — Bruxelles poss^de un mus^e des arts et metiers, un musee des tableaux, un cabinet d'histoire naturelle, un cabinet de physique et de numis- matique. • Le premier de ces etablissemens appartient au gouvernement, les autres sotit a la ville. Le gouvernement s'occupe en outre de la formation d'un musee des beaux arts, qui sera compose des ouvrages des principaux artistes Beiges. 2. Sous le controle et la direction de qui est-il place ? — Le musee des arts et metiers est administre par une commission de six membres, sous la direction du Ministre I'lnterieur. Le musee des tableaux est administre par une commission de cinq membres, sous le controle et la direction de la Regence. Les cabinets d'histoire naturelle et de physique par une commission de sept membres, sous le controle et la direction de la Regence. 3. Combien de directeurs y sont attaches, et quels sont leurs salaires ?— La R%ence nomme les membres de ces commissions ; elle les choisit parmi les personnes notables, ayant les qualites et les connaissances necessaires pour bien remplir ces fonctions. Ces places sont honorifiques et gratuites. II en est de m^me de la commission du mus6e des arts et metiers. 4. En combien de departements est-il devise? — Les Etablissemens appartenant k la Regence sont divis^s en quatre sections : 1° Musee des tableaux; 2° Cabinet de physique. 3° Cabinet de numismatique. 4° Cabinet d'histoire naturelle. Le musee des arts et metiers contient des collections des differents instruments et machines applicables aux arts, a I'agriculture, a I'industrie, aux sciences physiques, chimiques et mathematiques. On a commence de plus a y former un cabinet d'antiquit6s. Une expedition de I'arrete royal qui rfegle I'organisation de cet ^tablissement se trouve ci-jointe. 5. Quelle est la somme des depenses annuelles ? — Musee des tableaux _ . _ - _ 6,500 francs. Cabinets de physique et d'histoire naturelle - 6,500 — Cabinet de numismatique - - - 1,058 — Musee des arts et metiers - . . _ 30,000 — 6. Par SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 485 6. Par quels fonds est-elle supportee? — Les d^penses des etablissements appartenant h. la Appendix, No. 32. ville sont payees par elle ; celles du musee des arts et metiers sont supportees par I'etat. 7. Quels sont actuellement les difecteurs principaux ? — Les membres qui composent les respecting Literary commissions susdites sont, Institutions or Li- Pour le-mus6e des tableaux : J^'"^"^ .'" ^"'•^'S" Lountnes. MM. le Baron Charle de Waspick. Navez, peintre d'histoire. ■ 5. Belgium. Vanassetre, peintre de paysages. Paelinck, peintre d'histoire. Pour les cabinets d'histoire naturelle de physique, etc. : MM. le Baron Vanvolden de Lombeck. Simon Brunelle. Vanden Corput. Delporte. Schuermans. Sauveur. Pour le musee de I'etat : MM. Vifquain, inspecteur des ponts et chaussees. Qu^telet, directeur de I'observatoire de Bruxelles. Froidmont, docteur en medecine. De Memptinne, chymiste. Raymond Biolley, senateur. Frederic Basse, fabricant. 8. A quels r^gleme^^ts est soumise I'admission du public au musee? — La gi^lerie de tableaux, les cabinets de physique, d'histoire naturelle, etc. sont ouverta au public depuis 10 heures du matin jusqu'^ 4 heures, tons les Dimanches, Lundis et Jeudis, k I'exception des mois d'Aout et de Septembre. Les etrangers sont admis tons les jours pendant toute I'annee, aux heures preindiquees, sur I'exhibition de leur passeport au concierge. Le musee des arts et metiers est ouvert tous les jours, depuis neuf heures jusqu'^ trois heures. (Sub-Enclosure (B.) in No. 5.) LEOPOLD, Roi des Beiges, a tous presens et a venir, Salut. VouLANT donner au musee de I'etat les developpemens etl'utilite dont il est susceptible, Sub-Enclosure (B.^ dans I'inter^t des arts et de I'industrie : jn Nq. 5. Sur le rapport et la proposition de notre ministre de I'interieur, Nous avons arrete et arretons : Art. 1^^. Les collections du musee de I'etat seront, le plus promptement possible, comple- tees, de mani^re a les mettre au niveau des perfectionnemens, qui seront successivement faits dans les sciences physiques et chimiques, les arts et I'industrie. II y sera ajoute, 1°. une collection complete de modeles des meilleurs instruments ara- toires connus ; 2°- une collection complete d'echantillons des produits de I'industrie, agricole et manufacturifere, et des mines du royaume. Des medailles d'or et d'argent, et des primes d'encouragement,- dont le nombre et la valeur seront ult6rieurement determines, seront decernees annuellement aux auteurs des inventions et decouvertes les plus utiles et des machines et instruments les plus perfee- tionn6s, qui seront envoy6s a I'exposition publique du musee, quarante jours au moins avant Je jugement, qui aura lieu le 26 Juillet de chaque ann^e, par une commission de onze membres au moins, dont feront partie les membres de la commission administrative du dit mus^e. Une publication mensuelle aura lieu h partir au plus tard du ler Mars 1^33, par les soins et sous la surveillance de la commission administrative, El I'efFet d'^clairer les industriels et les agriculteurs sur les ameliorations qui peuvent ^tre introduites dans I'agriculture et I'in- dustrie Beige. Art. 2". Notre ministre de I'intdrieur est cha.rg6 de I'execution du present arrete. Donne h. Bruxelles le 24 Septembre 1832, ' (signe) Leopold. , Par le Roi, le Ministre de I'interieur, (signe) Be Theux. Pour copie conforme, Le Secretaire General du Minist^re de I'interieur, (signe) Dugnioll. 19. 3 Q 3 486 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32 Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 5. Bklgium. Sub Enclosure (C.) in No. 5. (Sub-Enclosure (C.) in No. 5.) BIBLIOTHfeQUES. 1°. CoMBiEN de bibliotheques y a-t-il dans la capitale ?— Deux ; I'une, composee d'ouv- rages imprimes, appartient a la ville ; I'autre, composee entieremerit de manuscrits, appartient au gouvernement. 2°. Combien de bibliothecaires y sent attaches et quels sont leurs salaires ? — tin seul k chacune. Celui de la ville regoit un traitement annuel de 2,000 francs, celui de I'etat 3,110 francs. 3*. Quelle est la depense annuel en livres? — 1,150 francs pour la bibliotheque de la ville. 6,000 a 7,000 francs pour la bibliotheque de manuscrits du gouvernement, dite de Bourgogne. 4*. Le total de la depense aniauelle ? — Bibliotheque de la ville : La depense ordinaire est de 4,800 francs, mais il est fait de temps en temps des allocations speciales pour acquisi- tions de livres ; la derniere, dont le montant etait de l,opO francs, a eu lieu en 1833. Bibliotheque du Gouvernement : Depense annuelle 10,000 francs. 5°. Sur quels fonds sont-elles payees ? — Les depenses du premier de ces etablissements, par la ville ; les depenses du second, par le gouvernement, sur le tresor de I'etat. 6°. A quels reglements est soumise I'admission du public ? — Bibliotheque de la ville : Ouverte au public les Lundis, Mardis, Jeudis, Vendredis et Samedis de chaque semaine (les jours feries exceptes), depuis dix heures du matin jusqu'^ deux heures apr^s midi. On ne pent entrer dans les salles de la bibliotheque qu'accompagne de I'un des pre- poses k la conservation des livres. Les lecteurs se reunissent dans un salon dispose ^ cet effet, oil I'on.apporte les livres qu'ils ont choisis sur le catalogue de la bibliotheque. Bibliotheque du Gouvernement : Ouverte tous les jours de I'annee depuis 9 heures du matin jusqu'^ 4 heures apres midi. . Quels sont actuellement les bibliothecaires principaux? — Biblioth6caire de la ville, Goethals. Bibliothecaire du gouvernement, Mr. Marchal, qui porte le titre de conservateur de la bibliotheque des manuscrits. et 9°. Quel est le nombre des volumes dans chacune ? Quel est le nombre des manu- scrits ? — Bibliotheque de la ville, 140,000 livres imprimis ; bibliotheque du gouverne- ment, 15,000 manuscrits. 10°. Quel est en general la nature du gouvernement de ces institutions? — Le bibliothe- caire de la ville dirige et administre sous la surveillance de la Regence, et fait les achats d'apres son autorisation. Le Bibliothecaire du gouvernement administre sous la surveillance et la direction du ministre de I'interieur. , 11°. Imprime-t-on toutes les annees des rapports ou comptes y relatifs ? — Non, les biblio- thecaires adressent leurs comptes ; mais ils ne font des rapports que lorsqu'on le leur demande. 12°. Quel est le nombre des bibliotheques de province ? — Les villes suivantes possedent des bibliotheques publiques : Anvers, Bruges, Gand, Liege, Louvain, Mons, Namur, Tournay. 13°. Sont-elles sous la surintendance de quelqu' autorite du gouvernement ?— Les biblio- theques de Gand, Liege et Louvain sont sous la direction des universites du gouvernement qui existent dans ces villes. Les bibliotheques des autres villes sont dirigees par des bibliothecaires, sous la sur- veillance des Regences. 7 Mr. 8° (6.)_WIRTEMBERG. 6. WiRTEMBERG. Lord William Russell to the Duke of Wellington. My Lord Duke, Stuttgard, 10 December 1834. IN comphance with the instructions contained in Viscount Palmerston's qircular despatch to Mr. Wellesley of 29th of October last, I have now the honour to transmit to your Grace the accompanying information relative to the state of the national museums and libraries in Wirtemberg. I have, 8ic. (signed) W. Russell. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 487 Appendix, No. 32. (Enclosure in No. 6.) Communications respecting Literary Museum. Instirutions or Li- T 1 . , 111 1 1 . . 1' braries in Foreign 1. Is there a national museum devoted to the arts, antiquities or natural history, in the Countries. capital of Wirtemberg ? — Stutgart possesses no national museum under that name, but a , cabinet of natural history, and a small cabinet of medals, antiquities and arts. 6. Wirtemberg. 2. Under whose control and direction is it placed ? — The cabinet of natural history is under the inspection of the professor of medicine. Dr. Jager ; the cabinet of medals and arts Enclosure in No. 6. under that of Professor Stalin. 3. How many directors are attached to it, and what are their salaries ? — These two esta- blishments, together with the public library and the king's private library, have a director in common, who receives an annual salary of 1,600 florins. 4. Into what departments is it divided ? — None. 5. What are the general annual expenses? — About 850 florins. 6. Out of what fund are they defrayed ? — The public treasury. 7. Who are the principal directors at present .' — The conseiller d'etat, Dr. Kielmeyer. 8. What afe the bye-laws regulating the admission of the public to the museum ? — The cabinet of natural history is at all times open to the public. Persons wishing to visit it must announce themselves beforehand to the inspector. Permission to visit the cabinet of medals and arts must be asked from the inspector, and can only be granted if he has time to accompany the visitors. LiBEAEY. 1. How many public libraries are there in the capital of Wirtemberg ? — One. 2. How many librarians attached to each of theni, and what are their salaries ? — One upper and two under : the first receives 1,500 florins annually ; the second, 1,200 ; and the third, 1,000. 3. What is the annual expense of books? — About 4,000 florins. 4. What the general annual expenses ? — About 7,000 florins. 5. Out of what fund are they paid ? — The public treasury. 6. What bye-laws regulate the admission of the public ? — The entrance is free to all persons, provided they are accompanied by a servant of the establishment. On the after- noons of Wednesdays and Saturdays persons are allowed to read in the library. 7. Who are the principal librarians at present ? — The upper librarian's name is Moser j the under, Stalin and Gfroezer. 8. What is the number of volumes in each ? — One hundred and ninety-seven thousand. 9. What the number of manuscripts? — One thousand eight hundred. 10. What is the nature of the government of these institutions generally ? — The govern- ment of these institutions is in general vested in the directors. They endeavour, as far as their means allow, to procure every thing that i^ of real worth. The booksellers and anti- quarians of Stutgart, and some others, send what they think worthy of note for inspection. The library is divided into three departments, each under the superintendence of one of the librarians, who are charged with the purchase, binding of books, keeping catalogues, &c. Recommendations from any of the authorities of the State, for the purchase of any particular work, always attended to. All booksellers in the kingdom are required to furnish a copy of any work published by them. To certain persons, and under certain regulations, books are allowed to be taken from the library. 11. Are there any annual printed accounts or reports relating to them ? — ^None ; but an annual written report is sent to the Ministry of the Interior, and there examined and deposed. 12. What is the number of provincial libraries? — One in Tubingen. , 13. Are they under the superintendence of any government authority? — The Ministry of the Interior. (7.)— FRANCE. Earl Granville to Viscount Palmerston. My Lord, . Paris, 3 NiDvember 1834. I RECEIVED yesterday your circular despatch, dated 29th October, directing me to obtain answers to certain queries enclosed in it, respecting the public museums and libraries of this country ; and I shall lose no time in making an application to the French government to furnish me with the required information. I have, &c. (signed) Granville. 7. Frakce. 47y. 3 Q 4 488 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 8. Tuscany. (8.)— TUSCANY. George H. Seymour, Esq., to the Duke of Wellington. My Lord Duke, Florence, 29 December 1834. IN reference to Viscount Palmerston's circular despatch oi the 29th October, I have the honour to submit to your Grace the following statement respecting the museums and libra- , ries of Florence : J. This town possesses a museum of natura;l history. v 2. Which is placed under the control of the Department of the Interior. 3. The museum has one director, three professors, of whom one of physic, one of natural history, and a third of mineralogy, and has moreover an astronomer attached to it. The director receives a salary of 100 francesconi ; and the same emoluments are bestowed upon the professors and the astronomer, who, as well as the director, are lodged at the pub- lic expense. 4. The museum is formed of a cabinet of natural history, another of mineralogy, a third of physic, and an observatory ; a botanical garden, of inconsiderable extent, forms part of the establishment. ' 5, It' would be diflBcult to estimate the annual expenses of the museum, which vary according to the purchases which are made, and the various alterations and improvements which are introduced. 6. The expenses are defrayed by sums set apart by the direction of the Court. 7. The present director of the museum is the Chevalier Vincgnzo Antinori ; the physical professor, Chevalier Nobili (of Modena); M. Mazzi, of Sienna, is the professor of natural history; M. Filippo Neati, the professor of mineralogy; and M. Giovanni Amici (of Modena), the astronomer. 8. The public are admitted to the museum on every day, except festivals, between the hours of ten and three, and are likewise permitted to attend the lectures. The museum of antiquities is annexed to the gallery, and is placed at present under the same director, the situation of guardian of the royal antiquities not having been filled up since the death of the Abbe Zannoni". Those persons only who have received a special permission are permitted to view this museum, which possesses a large collection of Etruscan and Grecian gems, and of gold and silver medals. A museum of Etruscap antiquities exists still at Cortona; but the most valuable subjects which were to be seen there were stolen some years ago, and since then little care has been bestowed upon keeping up the establishment. Another more perfect collection of Etruscan remains is to be found at Volterra. The following public libraries exist at Florence ; i. The collection, bequeathed to the public by Magliabechi . (by whose name it is distin- guished), and enriched by the subsequent governments' of Tuscany ; the Medico-Lauren- ziana; the Marucelliana ; the Riccardiana, which was purchased not long since of the Riccardi family ; and the library of the " Belle Arti," containing the books which were taken out of the suppressed convents. 2. &, 7. The Magliabechan hbrary is under the direction of the Abbe Follini, who receives an annual stipend of 240 scudi, and who has under his orders a sub-librarian, with a salary of 1 80 scudi, an assistant, a clerk, and four guardians (custodi). The Laurentian and MaruceUian libraries are under the charge of Signer del Faria, who receives 396 scudi annually ; and each of these collections has besides a sub-librarian, an assistant and a guardian, who receive respectively a salary of half the amount of that bestowed upon the librarian. The Riccardi collection is managed by a librarian, the Canon Bincini, and by a sOb- librarian, the Abbe Becchi. The former of the two receives 164 scudi a year. The library of the " Belle Arti " is placed under the superintendence of Signor Niccohno, who acts as librarian, with a salary of 348 scudi. He has only one guardian finder his orders. 3, 4, 5. 10 & 11. The disbursements of these various libraries are made by their respec- tive librarians, under the control of the Minister of the Interior ; these expenses are, how- ever, very trifling. Not more than 100 scudi are expended annually in the purchase and the binding of books for the Magliabechan collection, and proportionally smaller sums are laid out upon the other libraries, 6. The public are admitted to the Maghabechan library every day in the year, except on festivals ; ajid from the 1st of October to the I2th of November the doors .are opened at nine and closed at two o'clock. The same regulations are observed with regard to the Laurentian and Riccardi libraries. Tl}e MaruceUian is open every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, and the library of the " Belle Arti " on every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday, of the year. It is not permitted to carry away the books belonging to any of these libraries ; but every facihty is afforded to persons who may be desirous of making notes or extracts from them. 8 & 9. It is not possible to state the exact number of volumes ip each library, no very cor- rect catalogue having been made, except in the " Belle Arti." The SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 489 Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 8. Tuscany. The Magliabechan library is, however, supposed to contain 150,000 volumes, and 11,000 Appendix, No. 3:2 manuscripts ; the Laurentian, 9,000 manuscripts ; the Marucellian, 50,000 volumes ; the Riccardi, 26,000 volumes and 9,000 manuscripts ; and the collection of the " Belle Arti," 11,000 volumes. 12. & 13. In almost all the chief provincial towns of Tuscany there are to be found public libraries, although in general of no great importance, which are placed under the control of the communal magistrates. The librarians are, for the most part, priests and schoolmasters, and receive an inadequate annual allowance of 80 or 40 scudi. The libraries of the universities of Pisa and Sienna are, however, sufficiently valuable, each of them possessing about 50,000 volumes, to which an annual addition of books, to the value of 100 scudi, is respectively made. The situation of librarian to the University of Sienna is filled by Dr. Chigi ; the same office at Pisa has lately become vacant by the death of Signor Piazzini. The librarian of both towns receives a salary of 160 scudi. The above information, if not as full as I could have wished, will, I believe, be found to be correct. I have, &c. (signed) G. H. Seymour. (9.)— SICILY. The Honourable William Temple to the Duke of Wellington. My Lord Duke, Naples, 21 January 1835. I HAVE the honour of enclosing herewith answers to the queries contained in the memo- randum of Mr. Hawes, enclosed in Lord Palmerston's despatch, marked " Circular," of the 29th October of last year, upon the subject of the information he was desirous of obtaining relative to the state of the national museums and libraries in the capital of this country, for the use of a Committee of the House of Commons. I have, &c. (signed) W. Temple. Q. Sicily. (Enclosure in No, 9.) Museum. 1. Is there a national museum devoted to the arts, antiquities or natural history, in the Enclosure in No. g. capital of Naples ? — ^There is at Naples a Royal Museufei (Real Museo Borbonico) devoted to arts and antiquities, containing also a library and schools of painting, drawing, sculpture and architecture. There are four cabinets of natural history at Naples, and a botanical garden belonging to the government. There are also three cabinets of natural history belonging to private individuals, to which the public are admitted. 2. Under whose control and iflirection is it placed? — The Royal Museum and the four cabinets of natural history are under the control of the Mmister of the Interior. 3. How many directors are attached to it, and what are their salaries ? — There is one director, a comptroller, a secretary and an architect, attached to the Royal Museum ; one director to each of the four cabinets of natural history, and one to the botanical garden. 4» Into what departments is it divided ? — The Royal Museum is divided into the following departments : The 1st contains a collection of statues and of inscriptions. 2d. A collection of Etruscan vases, Egyptian monuments and Herculanean paintings, 3d. A collection of small bronzes and ancient glass. 4th. A collection of coins, precious objects, terracotta, and objects of the middle ages. 5th< A collection of paintings. 6th. A library. 7th. Schools of painting, drawing, sculpture and architecture. The four public cabinets of natural history do not belong to the museum, but to the university, and are divided as follows : viz. 1st. A mineralogical museum. 2d. A zoological museum. 3d. Materia medica. 4th. Pathological anatomy. The private cabinets consist of, 1st. A zoological museum. 3d. A geological museum. 3d. A mineralogical museum. 47ft. 3 R 5. What 490 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 3)2. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 9. Sicily. What are the general annual expenses ? — The expenses of the royal museum are - The expenses of the mineralogical museum are The zoological museum - - - - - The materia medica - - - - The pathological anatomy - - _ - The botanical garden - - - 100,000 ducats per annum. 1,500 ducats 800 ducats 600 ducats 1,300 ducats 4,200 ducats ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto. 6. Out of what fund are they defrayed ? — From the royal treasury. 7. Who are the principal directors at present ? — The Marquis Arditi, of the royal museum ; The Chevalier Tondi, of the mineralogical museum ; The Chevalier Sangiacomo, of the zoological museum ; The Chevalier Mannola, of the materia medica and pathological anatomy ; ■ The Chevalier Tenore, of the royal botanical garden ; The Chevalier Niccolini, of the schools of painting, drawing, sculpture and archi- tecture. The Signor Costa is the proprietor of the private museums of zoology and geology. The Chevalier Monticelli is the proprietor of the private museum of mineralogy. 8. What are the bye-laws regulating the admission of the public ? — The public are admitted every day (except holidays) from 8 a. m. until 2 p. m. There is nothing demanded upon entrance, but a trifle is always expected by the attendants who open the' different rooms. Library. 1. How many pubUc libraries are there in the capital of Naples? — TTiere are five public libraries in Naples ; viz. 1st. The Royal Library in the museum. 2d, The Brancacciano. 3d. Library of the University. 4th. Library of the Military Staff. 5th. Ditto - of the Monks of St. Jerome. 2. How many, librarians attached to each of them, and what are their salaries ? — There are four librarians to the Royal Library, two to the Brancacciano, two to the University, one to the Military Staff, one to the Library of the Monks of St. Jerome. 3. What is the annual expense of books ? — Four thousand ducats for the Royal Library ; but as, of all books printed in the kingdom of Naples, two are given to the Royal, and one to the other libraries, the 4,000 ducats go to the purchase of foreign books. 4. What are the general annual expenses ? — The expenses of the Royal Library are in- cluded in the expenses of the Royal Museum, of which it forms part. 6. Out of what funds are they paid ? — From the royal treasury, except that of the Monks of St. Jerome, which are defrayed out of the funds of the convent ; this library is rich chiefly in ancient books. 6. What bye-laws regulate the admission of the public ? — The Royal Library is-open every day from eight a.m. until two p. m., during the months of January^ February, March, April, October, November and December ; and from seven, a. m. until two v. m., in the months of May, June, July, August and September. On Wednesdays and Saturdays the reading finishes at one p.m. It is shut on all holidays, and on the birth-days of the king, queen and dowager queen. It is closed from the day. before Christmas until the first of January, on the last six days of Carnival, the first day of Lent, from Wednesday in the Holy week until Easter Tuesday, and finally from the 15th of October until the 5th of November. The Brancacciano is open every day from the 6th of November until the end of May, with the exceptions as mentioned above (Saturdays excluded), from eight a.'m. until eleven a. m., and from the 21 to the 23 Italian hour. From the 1st of June to the 28th of September it is only open in the afternoon. The other hbraries follow the rules of the Royal Library. The public have free permission to read in the libraries, but no books are allowed to be taken away. 7. Who are the principal librarians at present ?— The principal librarians in the Royal Library are, Monsignor Scotti, the Abbe Jannelli, Chevalier Cirillo, Chevalier de Licteriis.— In the Brancacciano, Abbe Gazzelli, Abbe Sozio. — In the University, Chevalier Flauti Abbe Tedeschi. — In the Convent of St. Jerome, Abbe Telesio ; — And in the Library of the Military Staff, one of the colonels. 8. What is the number of volumes in each? — The Royal Library contains about 300 000 volumes in print. The Brancacciano - - - 1 0,000 volumes in print. The University - - --,-__ 50,000 - - ditto. The Convent of St. Jerome ---_._ 60,000 - - ditto. ■ The Military Staff 10,000 - - ditto. , 9. What is the number of manuscripts ?— There are about 6,000 manuscripts in the Royal Library, but there are none in any of the other public libraries. 10. What SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 491 are 10. What is the nature of the government of these institutions generally ? — They under the direction of the minister of the interior. Books are bought at the suggestion of the librarians, who submit a list of the foreign works which they wish to acquire to the minister of the interior, for his approbation. 11. Are there any annual printed accounts or reports relaj;ing to them ? — Tliere are regular reports kept and given in annually, which have been printed, but not regularly. 12. What is the number of provincial libraries'? — There are no public libraries in any of Countries. the provincial towns, excepting Foggia and Lucera ; but in every diocese there is a library belonging to the see, to which admission may be obtained by a permission. 13. Are they under the superintendence of any government authority ? — All these public establishments are under the superintendence of the minister of the interior, who must give a full account of them annually to the king. Appendix, No, 32, Cominunications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in ForeigtK b ICILY. (lO.)-BUENOS AYRES. H. Hamilton, Esq., to the Duke of Wellington. My Lord Duke, Buenos Ayres, 16 February 1835. Having duly transmitted to the government of Buenos Ayres a copy of the memorandum enclosed in Viscount Falmerston's circular of the 29th October ultimo, upon the subject of certain information which Mr. Hawes, the Member for Lambeth, is desirous to obtain rela- tive to the national museums and libraries in foreign countries, for the use of a Committee of the House of Commons, I have received, in answer, from the minister of foreign affairs the enclosed note, stating that the requisite data are now collecting, so that the information in question may be supplied in the most complete and satisfactory form. I have, &,c. ' (signed) Hamilton Hamilton. 10. Buenos Ay RES. (Enclosure in No. 10.) Don Manuel de Yrygoyen to H. Hamilton, Esq. Buenos Ayres, 15 February 1835, 26th year of Liberty, and 20th of Independence. To H. E. Hamilton Hamilton, Minister Plenipotentiary of His Britannic Majesty. The undersigned, official mayor of foreign affairs, in virtue of an authorization to that Enclosure in No. 10. effect, has received and communicated to his government the note of H. E. Hamilton Hamilton, dated the 8th instant, and the memorandum iinnexed, addressed to him by His Majesty's Government, with a view to obtain a variety of information concerning the libraries and the museums of the republic. The government being thus instructed of the wishes of H. E., begs to inform him that they shall be fulfilled in a manner which may be depended upon for its exactness, and that the data necessary for the purpose are already collecting. The undersigned has, in consequence, the pleasure to apprise H. E. that all the queries comprehended in the memorandum shall be duly answered, so soon as the required informa- tion can be collected together. Go^ preserve, &c. 8cc. (signed) Manuel de Yrygoyen. (11.)— MEXICO. R. Pakenham, Esq., to the Duke of Wellington. My Lord Duke, * Mexico, '26 March 1335. On the receipt of Viscount Falmerston's circular despatch of the 29th of October last, I addressed a note to the Mexican government, requesting that measures might be taken to obtain the information desired by that despatch relative, to the public museums and libraries of this country, for the use of the Committee of the House of Commons ; and I have received a note in answer from the minister for foreign affairs, informing me that instructions have been circulated to the governments of the states, and to the directors of the national museum and library in Mexico, for the purpose of obtaining the required information in the most authentic manner, and with as little delay as possible- I have, &c. (signed) E, Pakenham. 11. Mexico. 479. 3 s 2 492 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 12. Feankfort. (12.)— FRANKFORT. Thomas Cartwright, Esq., to Viscount Palmerston. My Lord, Frankfort, 1 8 July 1 835. I HAVE the honour to enclose herewith the replies to. the queries transmitted to me in your Lordship's circular despatch of the 29th of October last, respecting the Museums and Libraries at Frankfort. I have, &c. (signed) Thomas Cartwright. Enclosure 1, in No. 12., (Enclosure 1, in No. 12.) Museum. 1. Is there a National Museum devoted to the Arts, Antiquities, or Natural History in Frankfort ? There are two national museums at Frankfort on the Maine : (a) The one is for the fine arts, and is called the Instituti9n of Staedel, because it was founded by a gentleman of that name. (6) The other is for natural history, the Senkenberg Museum. There is also a collection of coins, which is connected with the national library. 2. Under. whose control and direction are they placed ? (a) The Institution of Staedel was founded by Johann Friedrick Staedel, a merchant, who died on the 2d of March 1816, and bequeathed to it about 1,300,000 florins. It is placed under the control of five directors, who, upon the secession of one of their number, themselves elect his successor. These directors have been invested by the founder with unlimited full powers, to conduct the affairs of the institution, in conformity with the stipulations of the charter. (6) The Senkenberg Museum is placed under the direction of the acting members of the society, who hold meetings at stated periods for this purpose, (c) The collection of coins is deposited at the public library, and is placed under the same control with that establishment. 3. How many directors are attached to them, and what are their salaries ? (a) The Institution of Staedel for the Fine Arts : — The governors undertake the direction of the institution. They receive no salary. Under them are placed, a director for the collections, who, as such, receives a salary of i ,000 florins ; and an inspector, who receives 1,700 florins annually, besides an apartment free of expense. (6) The Senkenberg Museum : — Two of the members of this society conduct the aflairs of the institution. They receive no salary. 4. Into what departments are they divided ? (a) The Institution of Staedel for the Fine Arts, contains collections of sculpture, paintings, drawings and sketches (about 10,000)', engravings (about 30,000), books relating to the fine arts (from 2,000 to 3,000 vols). (b) The Senkenberg Museum comprises the three kingdoms of nature, and is accordingly classified into the several established departments. 5. What are the general annual expenses ? (a) The Institution of Staedel for the Fine Arts : — The annual expenses of this entire establishment amount to 35,000 florins, a part of which is applied to the support of the academy connected with this institution. About 15,000 florins are annually appropriated to the augmentation of the collections, of which 2,000 florins are expended in books. (&) The Senkenberg Museum : — The annual expenses of this establishment amount to 4,800 florins. 6. Out of what funds are they defrayed ? (a) The Institution of Staedel for the Fine, Arts : — The funds with which' the expenses of this establishment are defrayed, consist in the capital bequeathed to it by its founder, and which is placed under the control of the administration. (6) The Senkenberg Museum : — The funds for this establishment are derived from an annual grant of 1,500 florins out of the public treasury, and from the contributions of the members of the society, who pay annually 11 florins. 7. Who are the principal directors at present ? (a) The Institution of Staedel for the Fine Arts : —The present director of the several galleries is the professor of painting, Mr. Philip Veit. (6) The Senkenberg Museum :— The principal directors are, the Senator Von Heyden, and M. Kretzschmar, m. n. 8. What the bye-la\ys regulating the admission of the public ? (fl) The Institution of Staedel is open to the public gratis. The rooms containing the collections of sculpture and paintings are open to the public four times a w;eek, each time for two hours ; the library of the institution once a week, for two hours. (b) The Senkenberg Museum is open to the public gratis, twice a week, each time for two hours. The members of the society have access to it every afternoon, with the excep- tion of Sundays. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 493 Library. 1 . How many Public Libraries are there at Frankfort ? Besides the libraries connected with the two establishments above mentioned, and several small collections of books belonging to various public institutions ; such as the Physical and Polytechnical Societies, the Gymnasium, the Freemasons' Lodge, and the Medical Institution at the Senkenberg Museum; there is one great public library, the " Stadt Bibliothek." 2. How many librarians attached to each of them, and what are their salaries ? This library is entrusted to the care of two librarians, one of whom receives a salary of 6oo florins, the other of 400 florins. 3. What is the annual expense of books ? 2,565 florins are annually expended in books and binding. 4. What the general annual expenses? The entire annual expenses amount to 4,350 florins, and 60 florins for coins. The necessary supply of fuel is furnished gratis, from the forests belonging to the town. 5. Out of what fund are they paid ? Of these expenses, 4,000 florins are contributed by the public treasury, and the remainder is furnished by the interest of such capitals as have been at diflerent times bequeathedto the library for that purpose. 6. What bye-laws regulate the admission of the public ? The library is open to the public four days in the week; twice for two hours, and twice for one hour. Every burgher is entitled to receive books upon furnishing a receipt for them. Strangers can only receive books through the recommendation of burghers, and upon depositing a sum of money. All persons, whether natives or foreigners, are at liberty to read and study at the library, provided they do not take the books home. 7. Who are the principal librarians at present ? The present librarians are Dr. Bohmer and Dr. Eyssen. 8. What is the number of volumes in each ? This library contains 50,000 volumes of printed books. 9. What the number of manuscripts ? ,Five hundred volumes of manuscripts ; of which 20 are Abyssinian, 12 Turkish and Persian, 6 Hebrew, 2 Indian and Burmese, and the rest German, Latin, and the modern languages. 10. What is the nature of the government of these institutions generally? The government of the public library is conducted by three members of the senate, who hold a meeting once a month, Und address to the senate such propositions as they may. conceive it necessary to be adopted as regulations. n. Are there any annual printed accounts or reports relating to them ? In the preface to the following v^ork, " Catalogus Bibliothecse Publicae Moeno Fran- cofurtensis : Francofurti, 1 728, 4to." will be found some notices respecting the library. A new description of the library is at present in progress. 12. What is the number of provincial libraries? There are no further pubhc libraries within the territory of the free city of Frankfort. 13. Are they under the superintendence of any government authority ? The national librai'y is placed under the supreme superintendence of a special commis- sion of the chief authorities of the state, which is -composed of three senators. Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 12. Frankfort. (Enclosure 2, in No. 12.) ' (Translation.) SUPPLEMENTARY and Circumstantial Minutes respecting the Senkettberg Society for Natural History. This institution of the free city of Frankfort comprises the following departments : 1. A Botanical G§irden and Green-house, the latter subdivided into separate compartments for the warm and the cold culture of plants, and an anatomical school, with the different collections of preparations required for the lectures. ,!, N. B.—^These establishiments were founded in 1769, by Johann Christian von Senken- berg, Physicus, and practical physician in this city, and they are governed by a body of directors, who elect their own members in case of a vacancy, and over whom the physicians of the town, preside, in virtue of the provisions stipulated by the founder. 2. A Museum of Natural History, for Zoology, Mineralogy and Botany. These various branches are scientifically treated by a society which was founded on the 22d November 1817, by a small number of physicians and naturalists, under the name of the Senkenberg Society for Natural History. This society met with great encouragement on the part of the public, and was promoted to an independent establishment in virtue of the recognition and support of the High Senate. (a) The Senkenberg Society for Natural History is composed of active and honorary members. All pay an annual subscription of 1 1 florins. The active members undertake the management of the scientific labours, and meet once every month for the purpose of makmg and receiving communications on all branches of natural history. • ,1^ ^^^ 479. 3 B 3 <*) ^" Enclosure 2, in No. 12. 494 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 12. Frankfort. Appendix, No. 32. (6) All the members assemble once a year (on the first Sunday of the month of May)i and hold a public meeting, at which an account is laid before the Senate and the public of all that has been done during the past year. (c) The extensive buildings which were erected in 1819 and 1828, for containing the scientific collections, were constructed by means of general contributions, made on the part of the wealthy inhabitants. '{d) The entire institution is placed under the control of a board of directors, at the head of which stand, as directors, the Senator Von Heyden, Dr. Kretzschmar, m. n.; as Secre- taries, Dr. Mappes, m. d., and Dr. Sbmmering, m. d. These, as well as the other active members, receive no salary for their labours, but, on the contrary, pay an annual contribu- tion in common with the rest. (e) The number of contributing members amounts to about 300, whose contributions amount to 3,300 florins ; to this, the High Senate contributes out of the public treasury 1,500 florins, making a total of 4,800 florins. This fund is employed in the support of the workmen employed on the collections, the payment of the interest, and a sinking fund for procuring specimens and remunerating a Professor of Natural History (principally Zoology), which post is at present held by the director. Dr. Kretzschmar, m. d., who receives for his lectures an annual salary of 1,000 florins. If the means of the society prove insufficient for extraordinary emergencies, a subscription is raised among the public, and in this manner considerable sums have already been obtained. (f) The collections in every branch have increased so considerably that they may be reckoned amongst the richest and most important. They therefore stand in no proportion to the means and funds of the society ; and it must be observed, in addition to this declaration, that the collections, owing to the scientific travels of Dr. Edward Riippell in the North of Africa, which he undertook during a period of 10 years, at his own expense, for the benefit of the Museum, have been rendered remarkably complete and interesting. (g) No branch of natural history has been neglected, and each branch has its committee, selected from amongst the active members, which committee conducts the affairs of its section, (A) The collections are open to the public at large on two appointed days of the week; the teachers and scholars of the public schools have access to them as often as they may wish, and the members of the society at all times. 3. A separate society has been formed in the Museum for Natural History, which has for its object the study of natural philosophy and chemistry, and is composed for the most part of the members of the original society, who pay an annual contribution of 10 florins for that purpose. The funds thus obtained are exclusively devoted to the purchase of physical instruments, the promotion of chemical and physical lectures, and the payment of a salary to a lecturer on those sciences. 4. The extensive library of the society is kept in the principal building, and is superin- tended by a special librarian, M. Fresenius, m. d., who is at the same time keeper of the archives of the institution. 5. The aforesaid administration of the institutions, founded by Dr. Von Senkenberg, ap- points a lecturer on anatomy in the person of Dr. Mappes, m. d., and a lecturer on botany in the person of Dr. Fresenius, allowing them a salary, which is paid out of tlieir own funds, furnished by the interest of the capital bequeathed to the establishment for that purpose by its founder. 13. Saxony. Enclosure in No. 13. (13.)— SAXONY. The Honourable F. R. Forbes to Viscount Palmerston. (Extract.) Dresden, 12 May 1835. I HAVE the honour of enclosing to your Lordship answers to the questions concernino- the state of the National Museum and Libraries in Saxony, which were transmitted to you by Mr. Hawes, the Member for Lambeth, as required for the use of a Committee of the House of Commons, All the collections in Dresden are opened twice a week, on stated days, to the public, but not more than a certain number of persons are admitted at the same time to some of them, where there are many small articles of value. The Picture Gallery is open twice a week to every one of all classes; on other days tickets may be procured for parties of six persons, on paying 1 s. each. F. R. Forbes. (Enclosure in No. 13.) There is no National Museum in Saxony, but the following collections are at Dresden • 1. Picture Gallery:— One director, M. Matthai ; two inspectors, Messrs. Schmidt and Tenner. Their joint salaries amount to 1,200 dollars, equal to 180 I. 2. Gallery of Antiques :— One director, M. Hase ; salary 300 dollars, equal to 45 /. 3. Collection of Medals :— One director, M. Hase; salary 300 dollars, equal to 45/. 4. Cabinet of Natural History:— Two inspectors, Messrs. Reiohenbach and Thieneman • joint salaries 1,300 dollars, equal to 195/. ' , ,5. Collection SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 4D5 Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 13. Saxony. 5. Collection of Physical and Mathematical Instruments : — Two inspectors, Messrs. Appendix, No. 32 Lohrniann and Blochmann ; joint salaries r,oOo dollars, equal to 150/. 6. Historical Museum : — One inspector, M. Brietze ; salary 400 dollars, equal to So /. 7. Collection of the Copies of Antiques in Plaster of Paris : — One inspector, M. Mathai; salary 300 dollars, equal to 45 A 8.. Collection of Engravings :^-One inspector, M. Frenzel; salary 500 dollars, equal to 75 I. The sum of 3,000 dollars, equal to 450/., is allowed annually by the State for the support of the above collections, which are open to the public twice a week, and are to be seen ori other days by parties of six persons, each paying i s. 9. The Jewel Office: — Tvvo inspectors, Messrs. Landsberg and Schulze; joint salaries' 1,1 00 dollars, equal to 165Z. 10. Armouj-y : — Two inspectors, Messrs. Hanisch and Meitzner ; joint salaries 1,200 dol- lars, equal to 1 80 Z. Not including the small libraries belonging to each large school, and which are not under the inspection of government, there are in Saxony but two public libraries, at Dresden and at Leipzig. At the library at Dresden there are, one librarian, M. Falkenstein, salary, 1,000 dollars, equal to 150/.; one sub-librarian, vacant, salary 600 dollars, equal to 90Z.; two secretaries, Messrs. Klemm and Krauckling, joint salaries 700 dollars, equal to 105 Z. The sum of 2,500 dollars, equal to 375/., is allowed yearly for buying books, binding, &c. The expenses of the library are defrayed by the State. The number of volumes is - ' - - - 300,000 Manuscripts ------- 2,700 Dissertations - - - - - - , 150,000 The library together with the above collections are the entailed property (Fidei Commiss) of the Crown of Saxony, which can neither be sold nor removed out of the country. All these collections are under the control of the Minister of the Interior. The directors and inspectors are bound to make a yearly repqrt of the state of these collec- tions, which however is not published. There are printed catalogues of all the collections, excepting those of natural history and of engravings. The Library at Leipzig (which is principally intended for the use of the university) is under the control of the Minister of Worship: it is superintended by a librarian, M. Gersdorf, whose salary is 600 dollars, equal to q61. The number of volumes is Manuscripts - The libraries are open every day to the public. 110,000 2,000 (14.)— SWITZERLAND. 14. Switzerland. D. R. Morier, Esq. to Viscount Pdlmerston. My Lord, Bern, 26 June 1835. IN compliance with the commands contained in your Lordship's circular despatch of the 29th October last, I have the honour to forward to your Lordship a translation of the answers returned by the Bernese Government to the demand for information respecting the Museums and Public Libraries of this country, I have, &c. (signed) D. R. Morier. Memorandum.- (Enclosure in No. 14.) (Translation.) -Infoemation relative to the State of the National Museums and Libraries in Bern. Museum. 1. Is there a National Museum devoted to the Arts, Antiquities or Natural History in , the capital of Bern ? The corporation of Bern possesses a Museum of Natural History, included in which, are a small ethnographic collection, and some antiquities found in the canton. 2. Under whose control and direction is it placed ? It is under the direction and inspection of a committee chosen for that purpose by the magistrates of the town. 3. How many directors' are attached to it, and what are their salaries ? The museum committee consists of a president and four members ; their services are gratis. The household seryants, appointed by the committee, are the only persons paid. 4. Into what departments is it divided ? The several members are charged with the superintendence of the different divisions of the natural kingdom ; gnd the conduct of the general aifairs is equally divided among them. 479- 3 K 4 » 3- Whiat Enclosure in No. 14. 496 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 14. Switzerland. 5. What are the general annual expenses ? About 1,500 Swiss francs (go /.), of which 400 (-24 I.) is expended in wages to servants. 6. Out of what funds are they defrayed ? Out of the funds of the town council. 7. Who are the principal directors at present 1 The committee at present consist of, president, M. Stiider, sen.; quaestor, M. Von Wagner; zoological, M. Ischarner ; mineralogical, M. Stiider, jun.; botanical, M. Feuter. 8. What are the bye-laws regulating the admission of the public to the Museum ? The Museum is open to the public gratis, in summer thrice, and in winter twice a week ; it is also open at any other time, at the discretion of the servants in waiting. Library. 1 . How many public libraries are there in the capital of Bern ? There are, one pubhc town library, and several smaller collections ; one clerical library, one medical library, one for the students generally. We confine ourselves to the town library, as the three latter are to be considered rather in the light of private libraries. 2. How many librarians attached to each of them, and what are their salaries ? One head librarian, salary 500 S.f. (30 l.) ; two under librarians, salaries each 200 S.f. (12/.) 3. What is the annual expense of books ? About 2,800 S.f. (168 /.), including carriage and binding, 4. What are the general annual expenses ? Books .__ Swiss francs 2,800 - - £. 168 Salaries --.._---.-_ goo - - 54 Attendance -.--_--.-- 200 - - 12 Furniture, warming, sweeping and other small services - - 700 - - 42 Total Swiss francs - - 4,600 - £.276 5. Out of what fund are they paid? By the customary annual contributions : 1. From the municipality --.__. Swiss francs 2,000 2. Subscription of the cantonal government on account of the university 1 ,600 3. Capital and rent of houses - - --_-_, goo 4. Money taken from visitors --- - - . _ _ -100 Swiss francs 4,600 6. What bye-laws regulate the admission of the public ? The enclosed regulation gives the following information upon this point. Every inha- bitant of the city, whether citizen or not, can buy the right of making use of the library, once for all, for 10 Swiss francs (about I2 s. ad, English), without any further yearly pay- ment. -Ecclesiastics pay only six francs, 7. Who are the principal librarians at present ? Not answered, 8. What is the number of volumes ? About 35,000. 9. What is the number of manuscripts ? About 1,050; viz., philological, classical and historical, in general, in the collection of Bongars, 800. Swiss, for the most part historical, 250. 10. What is the nature of the government of these institutions generally ? The town library is under the direction of a commission of six members (including the head librarian), and a president. This commission decides upon the purchase of books proposed (1,200 Swiss francs beine dedicated to that of books proposed by the university professors). It deliberates on the interests and improvements of the collections entrusted to it (among which is a tolerably valuable collection of coins), examines the accounts, 8cc. 1 1 . Are there any annual printed accounts or reports relating to them ? No, The accounts are sent in to the town magistrates for their examination and approval. A separate account being furnished to the department of education, of the con- tribution of the cantonal government. Reports are published, but irregularly, and from time to time only. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 497 Appendix, No. 32. My Lokd, (16.)— SWEDEN. Sir Edward C. Disbrowe to Viscount Palmerston. Stockholm, 29 July 1835. Communications respecting, Literary- Institutions or Iiir braries in Foreign, Countries. 15. Sweden, IN obedience to the instructions contained in your Lordship's qircular of the 29th of last October, I have obtained, through the kind offices of the Swedish Government, a Report on the state of the National Libraries in Sweden, a copy of which I have the honour to enclose. I beg also to transmit a memorandum which contains answers to the questions drawn up by the Committee of the House of Commons, and forwarded to me by your Lordship. As to the answers to the questions relating to " National " Museums, none can be returned, for there are no establishments of this nature existing in Sweden. I have, &c, (signed) E. C. Disbrowe. (Enclosure 1, in No. 15..) REPORT on the State of the National Libraries in Sweden. Notices stir les BibliotMques Publiques en Suhde. Les biblioth^ques publiques a Stockholm, c'est-a-dire, celles qui certains jours de la semaine sont ouvertes au publique sont : 1°. La Biblioth^que Royale dans I'&ile septentrionale du 6hateau, qui est ouverte les avant-midi tous les jours ouvrables excepte Samedi. La Biblioth^que Royale, de meme que les Archives, fut fondee par Gustave I., qui apr^s la Reformation, envoya K cet effet un savant faire le tolir de toutes les provinces du roy- aume, pour recueillir et-transmettre a Stockholm toutes les collections de livres et de manu- scrits, qui avaient appartenu aux monast^res secularises. En meme tems, un autre savant fut envoye en AUemagne, pour denjftnder les conseils de Luther et de Melancthon enmati^re religieuse, et pour acheter et faire parvenir en Su^de tous les ouvrages interessans. Apr^s avoir ete considerablement augmentee par les successeurs de Gustave I., et principalement par son petit fils le grand Gustave Adolphe, la Biblioth^que Royale fut, en 1621, donnee par ce dernier a l'Universit6 d'Upsal, et peut etre consideiee comme le premier fond de sa bibliothfeque. La savante Christine, fille et successeur du grand Gustave Adolphe, com- menga de former une nouvelle biblioth^que des livres qu'on avait a double et des collec- tions qui, pendant la guerre de trente ans, etaient, comme butin, ^chues en partage a la couronne. Comme la Reine ne rfegardait point aux i'rais, la Biblioth^que devint bientot fort considerable, et surtout riche en manuscrits d'anciens auteurs classiques. Elle fut, cependant, en assez grande partie dispersee, soit par les dons faits par la Reine elle-m^me h rUniversite d'Abo, fondee par elle, et a la Biblioth^que du Gymnase de Strengu'as, soit par la permission qu'elle accordait aux savans Strangers qu'elle avait faits venir, de choisir dans sa bibliotheque ce qui pourrait leur ^tre de quelque utilite dans leurs travaux, soit enfin par suite de la mesure prise par elle, lors de son depart de la Su^de, d'amener une grande partie de cette bibliotheque ^ Rome, 0^ elle se trouve encore et fait une collection a part dans la Bibliotheque du Vatican. Ce qui en reste fut, cependant, assez considerable pour servir de fond k une nouvelle collectioii. Charles X., successeur de Christine, ne negligea aucune occasion de I'augmenter ppndant son regno court mais victorieux, et les biblioth^ques qui tomb^rent entre ses mains lors de ses victoires en Polognp et en Dane- marc, y fournirent de riches contingens. Cette collection si considerable fut, cependant, presqu'enti^rement d^truite, lorsqu'en 1697, au mois d'Avril, une incendiei d^vasta le Chateau de Stockholm. Pendant les longues et malheureuses guerres qui suivirent ce desastre, on ne put ajouter que fort peu aux debris qu'on avait reussi h. en sauver; et la seule augmentation quelque peu considerable qu'elle regut, fut, lorsque, ^ cause de I'in- vasion Russe en Livonie, la Bibliotheque de I'Academie de Pernau fut, en 1710, transferee h Stockholm. La Bibliotheque Royale date, cependant, du regne de Charles XL et de Charles XII., I'epoque de son organisation reguliere et d'un plan arrete pour son augmen- tation successive, puisque ce ne fut qu'alors qu'elle obtint une allocation annuelle, quoique peu considerable, pour I'achat de livres et un nombre suffisant d'employes pour en avoir soin. Elle s'accrut lentement, mais sans interruption, pendant la majeure partie du dernier siede, mais, vers sa fin, elle recut comme un don du ci-devant Roi, Gustave IV. Adolphe, toute la bibhotheque privee du Roi Gustave III., et de plus, une augmentation tres con- siderable pour rachS.t de livres ainsi qu'un plus grand nombre d'employes mieux salaries. Par suite de cette amelioration la Bibliotheque Royale continua ^ s'accr6itre peu-A-peu, Enclosure 1, in No. 15. 479- loi'Squ'en 4S8 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. lorsqu'en 1823 les Etats G6n6raux tripl^rent la somme allou^e et la mirent ainsi en cas de pouvoir disposer de 3,000 rix de banque pour Taugmentation de ces collections. Mais comme cette somme est certainement tr^s minime dans I'^tat actuel de la littferature Europ^enne, et le serait encore d'avantage si la Biblioth^que Royale ne s'etait point limit^e k n'acheter de pr^f^rence que des ouvrages sur la politique, I'histoire, la g^ographie et la statistique, les ouvrages ayant pour objet les sciences, pioprement di^tes,^ et les beaux arts, ont du 6tre mis de cotfe, comme en general tr^s couteux et dont I'ach^t depasse- :i. i 4 i„„ -^r.r,«,,r.^«c Aa I0 v.:ki;i-.f(i^niio ivfnio r-ntntYip I'Academie Rnvalft Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. li- a-rx.„x.„ rait par consequent les ressources de la biblioth^que. Mais comme 15. OWEDEN. j._ JT • ?.i._ 1„ 1, • tt„„* c^^ ,^r.^ foif oAliofor foiiv, Royale des Sciences, selon que le lui permettent ses moyens, fait acheter ceux-l^ pour sa Biblio- tb^que, et que I'Academie de Peinture et de Sculpture en fait de meme quant k ceux-ci, I'homme de lettres et I'artiste sont toujours a meme de consulter les ouvrages d'un prix plus eiev6 qui viennent de parS,itre, malgr^ que les biblioth^ques des institutes pr6eites, (dont celle de I'Academie des Sciences est trfes considerable), ne soient point publiques ; on a juge superflu d'avoir dans la mfime villes des duplicata de pareils ouvrages. Outre I'augmentation regulifere que la Bibliotbfeque Royale est dans le cas de faire annuellement, elle continue d'etre enrichie aujourd'hui comme autrefois par la munificence des particuliers et de I'etat. Sa Majeste le Roi lui a donne plusieurs temoignages de la sienne, et encore dernierement par le don de I'ouvrage de Denon sur I'Egypte. Sa Majeste a en outre fait acheter, aux frais de I'etat, la collection de manuscrits et de livres en langue Turque et Arabe, recueillie dans I'Orient par notre compatriote le voyageur Docteur Heden- borg, ainsi que la collection faite par lui de livres ecrits en langue nouvelle Grecque, et qui, sans contredit, est la plus grande, si non la seule, qui existe en Su^de. II faut aussi men- tionner ici avec reconnaissance que la Biblioth^que Royale a dans les derniers tems regu de I'Angleterre des dons d'un grand prix, tels que du feu George IV. le Catalogue de la Biblioth^que Royale de Windsor, de la Commission de Records toute la precieuse col- section d'archives publiee par elle, et en outre plusieurs dons de moindre consequence faits par les auteurs Anglais. La Bibliothfeque Royale est surtout riche en manuscrits concernant I'ancienne litterature du Word et I'histoire. La collection de chroniques d'Islaade et des anciens lois des peuples du Nord, surtout de celles de la Su^de en general et celles autrefois en vigueur dans plusieurs de ses provinces, merite la consideration que lui ont accordee les savans ta,nt dans le rapport de I'antiquite que du nombre des manuscrits. A cette collection se lie celle tr^» considerable de diplornes au nombre de 16,500, que I'antiquaire du royaume, le conseiller de Chancellerie Liljegren, secouru par une subvention des fonds de I'etat a commence k faire imprimer et dont deux volumes ont dejk paru. Le nombre des livres imprimes est de 70,000 et celui des manuscrits de 2,500 volumes sans compter les 16,500 diplomes. Cette biblioth^que formee de la manifere susraentionee, doit necessairement avoir plusieurs lacunes tr^s considerables, m^me pour les tems anciens,, et que ses ressources pfecuniaires lui permettront gu^rea de remplir maintenant. Elle es4 riche surtout en ouvrages concernant la litterature et I'histoire de la Su^de ainsi qu'en belles lettres Fran§aises. La Biblioth^que Royale regoit gratis un exemplaire de tout ce qui s'imprime en Su^de. Les employes y attaches sont, un Bibliothecaire ayant un appointe- ment de 1,800 ecus de banque, un premier adjoint avec 800 ecus, et un second adjoint avec400 ecus d'appointemens. Le bibliothecaire actuel est M . P. A. Wallmark ; i«r adjoint M. A. J. Arvedson, et 2 s - o a (4 p < >4 P a 3 K b ^ •3 o ^ o !^ a a.S' "? y^ cSfc s § ■ri ^ 1* ©■J X3 (1) (D •a a « 5 13 ' J (U 6 s o* s ■a ■y ' .J • M ^' 3 Bi ■a < *. •^ ■d a ^ •M a. >, M ^ S « g ^ « ^ o g ■^ 2 -o •< G o s IS .2 .S 3 5 QJ -^ 03 »-e - •S 4 g 3 <1 M O § .* a 3 [■S ■£■£ = rt - ■^ 2 , a ads B Mo g P 3 o.Ja fi'S g , S"3 5^ 3|J02= " ° S ° 3 § 3 «S .^t^ oj ., ■ • ffi > S m . 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En los actos literarios y piiblicos, fuera de la biblioteca, tendri siempre el lugar que siga al mas moderno de los profesores. 55. En lo que fuese respectivo k la ensenanza de las lenguas que sera de su cargo, observari cuanto va prevenido a los profesores en el capitulo precedentei 56. Asistira siempre &, la biblioteca, asl para dar sus lecciones, como para el uso del publico, en las horas que estubiere abierta k este fin. 57. Responderi de los libros y rauebles de ella, que se le entregaran por inventario, y lo mismo de los que pertenezcan al gabinete mineral6gico, y las Haves de uno y otro existir&.n en su poder. 58. Por punto general la biblioteca estar^ abierta, y sera de uso publico, en todos los dias y horas lectivas. 59. Admitir^ k ella todas las personas que concurrieren &, leeryinstruirse, y les franquear^ los libros que desearen. 60. En esto preferira siempre los alunnos, que siguen la ensenanza, a los que no lleven otro obgeto que el de la lectura. 61. Pero cuidar^ de que los alunnos no desperdicien el tiempo en lecturas de mera eurio- sidad. 62: Cuidara de que en la biblioteca se guarde el mayor silencio, cual conviene a, un Iiigar destinada a la lectura y no ^ conversacion ni disputas. 63. Ser&, regla general, que ningun libro debe salir de la biblioteca, ni disfruitarse fuera de su recinto, y de la vista del bibliotecario. 64. Si en las salas de enseifianza se necesitare de alguna obra, el profesor la pedir&, por medio de su ausiliar, y acabadas las lecciones, se restituiri k la biblioteca. 65. Lo mismo suceder^. cuando se necesitare alguna cosa del gabinete mineral&gico, lo cual se deber^. entregar y recoger por el bibliotecario. 66. Este gabinete solo se abrirS, en los tiempos y ocasiones en que lo exigiere la ensenanza, y con respecto k ella, y entonces asistir^ siempre en 61 el bibliotecario. 67. Ser^ regla general que no puedan estar abiertos kun mismo tiempo la biblioteca y el Gabinete, ni disfrutarse sino separadamente, y k vista del bibliotecario. 68. Mas como podr^ alguna vez sobrevenir de hacer uso simultaneamente de uno y otro, el director en tal caso nombrar^ uno de los ausiliares, para que desempene en aquel caso las funciones del bibliotecario. 69. La compra de libros y efectos de biblioteca, y de minerales y sustancias del gabinete, se hari siempre con intervencion del bibliotecario. Es copia k la letra del capitulo citado, contenido en la ordenanza provisional de este Ri Ynstituto Asturiano, y autorizada de Ri Orden por el Escelentisimo Senor, D^ Antonio Vald^s, Secretario de Estado y del Despacho Universal de Marina, en San Lorenzo, primero de Diciembre de mil setecientos noventa y tres. Gijon, y Marzo 3 de 1835. Antonio de Condres. ASIMISMO rigistrando en el Archive de este dicho Rl Ynstituto halle la Licencia 6 privi- legio que se concede al Ynstituto, que es a la letra como sigue. Nos, D" Ramon Jos6 de Arce, por la gracia de Dios y de la Santa Sede Apost61ica, Arzo- bispo de Burgos, Ynquisidor General en todos los Reinos y Senorios de S. M., y de su Consejo, &c. Por las preserites, y la autoridad apost61ica a nos concedida de que eh esta parte usamos, concedemos nuestra licencia y facultad al Rl Ynstituto Asturiano, establecido en la villa y puerto de Gijon, para que pueda adquirir y tener en su biblioteca los libros y obras prohibidas por el Santo Oficio, que k juicio de su actual Director, el Brigadier de la Rl Armada, D^^ Franco de Paula Jovellanos, Comendador de Aguilarejo en la Orden de Santiago, Alferez mayor, y Regidor perpetuo de dicha villa, y de los demas que le sucedan en dicho cargo, puedan ser 6tiles y correspondientes para la ensenanza de las ciencias naturales y esactas, que se estudian en aquel estiblecimiento. Y asimismo para que dicho Director, y los demas que le sucedieren, puedan conceder k los profesores y alunnos que fueren de su confianza la facultad de leerles en los cases y circunstancias fell que lo con- sideraren oportuno ; confiando como confiamos de la prudenpia y cristiandad del dicho D» Franco de Paula y demas Directores el buen uso de esia Licencia, sobre que ^ravamos si;i conciencia. Dada en Madrid, k cinco dias del mes de Abril, de mil setecientos noventa y ocho. — Ramon Jos.^.Arzobispode Burgos, Ynquisidor General. — PormandadodeS.YIustma, Licenciado D" Gabriel Hevia y Noriega, Secretario. — S. Y. concede licencia al Rl Ynstituto Asturiano, establecido en la villa y puerto de Gijon, y su Director 6 los que fueren, para adquirir SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 5l5 adquirir y tener en su biblioteca libros y obras prohibidas dtiles a la ensenanza de sus Appendix, No. 32 alunnos, y que estos puedan leerlos con la de su director. Re^. fol. 8, y Lib _ Nota. — Como el original esl& ya carcomido : los puntos, que se ven, suplen el n6mero del Libro que no se puede leer. Gijon, 3 de Marzo de 1835. Antonio de Condres. Comnuinications respecting Literary Insiitutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries^ (Annex 2, to Enclosure 2, in No. i6.) REGULATIONS of the Library of the Junta of Commerce at Corunna, Fundacion, establecimiento y constituciones de la Biblioteca p6blica del Rl Consulado de la Coruiia, establecida en la Casa Consular por el Dr. D. Pedro Ant° Sanchez, Canonigo de la S'a Yglesia de Santiago : la cual se aDri6 para servicio del publico en el dia 15 de Agosto del ano de 1806. A que sigue copia de tres escrituras referentes 6, la fundacion de una Escuela publica de primeras letras, que estableci6 tambien el mismo Canonigo en la feligresia de S*^ Eulalia de Curtis, lugar de su nacimiento, la cual queda, asimismo por la ultima, bajo la superintendencia y direccion del referido Rl Consulado, segun lo dispuso el fundador en su testamento y codicilo. El establecimiento de las bibliotecas publicas es uno de los medios mas eficaces de adel- antar y perfeccionar la instruccion entre todas las naciones ilustradas; y los cuerpos que, entienden por institute en el fomento de la prosperidad nacional no pueden por consiguiente njirarle con indiferencia. El Rl Consulado de la Coruiia ya, en el aiio de 17QO, habia atendido k iin objeto tan interesante, recogiendo con la competente aprovacion de S. M. varies libros y tratados cor- respondientes k su institute, que colocados en una pieza de la Casa Consular estaban a dis- posicion del publico en las horas de asistencia k las oficinas. Pero como no podia el cuerpo prescindir de atender simultaneamente k otros objetes, no le ban permitido las circun- stancias el poder dar k este establecimiento toda la estension que quisiera, y asi ha con- tinuado hasta principles del ano de 1803, k cuye tiempo se ha manifestado el zelo infatigable del Sr I). Pedro Antonio Sanchez, Canonigo de la S** Yglesia de Santiago, ofreciendo establecer en este pueblo k su costa, bajo los auspicios del Consulado, una biblioteca para el servicio del publico. decentemente provista. H.ipotec6 desde 1-uego dicho SeRor, para la per- manencia del' establecimiento, un considerable numero de vales Rl^, cuye capital census intereses completaron, a fin de Setiembre de dicho ano, al pie de unes cuatro cientes mil resiles; previniende que sus reditos debian per ahora invertirse en nuevos vales, y servirdes- pues los reditos de todos para atender k los sueldes del biblietecario y & la compra de li}3ros ; , con prevencion de que, si diches foudos en algun tiempo se llegasen k amortizar, se ^ imbirtiese el mismo capital en fincas, k cuyos productos se di^se el mismo destine. Yndependiente de la entrega de los referidos vales, previn& que despues de su muerte se invertiria su herencia en otros mas, y desde luego ha hecho hacer el mismo fundador k su costa.la estanteri^, y ha comprado una gran parte de los libros que ultimam^ se presentaron al piiblico, habiendo tambien contribuido el Consulado con unes treinta mil reales para el mismo fin, ademas de los libros que tenia el cuerpo ecsistentes. Las condiciones, bajo las cuales puso dicho Sehor k disposicion del Consulado esta fun- dacion, sen las siguientes: Que la Junta de Gevierno se encargari de conservar en su tesorerla los vales Rs, renovandolos, cebrando sus intereses, y empleando todo lo que pueda de ellos en nueves vales : que el nembramiento de biblietecario 6 bibliotecarios lo reserva hacer per ahera el fundador k favor de ciertas personas de cuya aptitud tiene fermado con- cepto; y que k lo adelante pertenecer^. al mismo cuerpo, quien dever^ hacerle entre los descendientes de dos hermanes del fundador, cenfiriendese las plazas, precedide ecsamen e inferme de sus cualidades, y, faltando la sucesien directa de esta famiha, pi-oveer dicho em- pleo por concurso abierto 6 general, con facultad de detener cualquieta paga que no juggase arreglada el Consulado, inclpyendo aun los salaries de los bibUotecaries y portero si le hubiese k lo adelante. De cuya propuesta y condiciones habiendose dado -cuenta al Rey, se,ha servido aprovarle todo en Ri orden de a de Junio del mismo ano de 1803. Realizado en la principal parte este proyecto, y verificada la solemne apertura el dia 15 de Agosto de 1806, fue servida la Magestad Divina Jlamar & juicio al benefice 6 inmortal fun-; 4adpr, en el dia 4 de Octubre del mismo aiio, despues de haber ord^nado sus. ideas, y negocios temporales, dejande fermado un plan de este establecimiento, y el de una escuela de primeras letras que ha fundado en el lugar de su nacimiento, para que el Consulado lo cerrigiese, adic'cionase, y tomase bajo su proteccion, refiriendose k ello en su ultimo codicilo : resultando acercarse el fondo de la citada biblioteca^ unes echocientos mil reales, y el de la escuela k mas de ochenta y cinco mil, todo en vales R^ y algunas accienes del Rl Emprestito, • Admitidos per la Junta de Gevierno dichos establecimientos, di6 facultad a les Sres Prior y Censules, para arreglar todos estos particulares ; cenferenciande y poniendose de acuerdq con los cunjplidores E^lbaceas y testamentarios del Sr. Sanchez, D. Maximino Garcia, ca- nonigo de la misma S*^ Yglesia, y D. Julian Franc" Suarez Freire, y ^ fin de que todo se intimase con prentitud, armonia, y conforojidad con dichos Sres, auteriz& y facult6 la J unta al Sr, Prior, D. Manuel Diez Fabanera, para qije pasande k Santiago verificase ^|ch^, ultima- cion, tratando y arreglando todo lo conducente con les citades Seiiores ; y habiendpse reci- procamente convenido entre si, y aprovadplo la espresada Junta de Gevierno, se establecen 6 imponen las constituciones siguientes. * 479. 3 u 2 1*. Serviri 16. Spain. Annex 2, to Enclosure 2, in No. 16. 516 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries. in Foreign Countries. 16. Spain. Appendix, No. <|2. !*•. Servir& en la biblioteca un bibliotecario mayor solo per ahora, que tenga las cuali- dades que quedan prevenidas en la noticia que precede, cuyo bibliotecario lo es ya^ por nombramiento del mismo fundador, el Lic^" D. Jose Boado Sanchez, hijo de D. Juan de Boado, y de D^^ Maria Raimunda Sanchez, hermana, del citado fundador. 2. Despues de recogida la herencia de este, y pasado el tiempo de ocho anos que con- sidera precisos el Cpnsulado para que sus fondos puedan sufrir nuevos grabamenes, se resolver^, el nombramiento de segundo bibliotecario, que se hari en el descendiente que hubiese apto de D. Tomas Antonio Sanchez, hermano tambien del fundador; de manera que asi la presentacion del bibliotecario 1°, como la del 2°, se ha de hacer por turno de los poseedores de la casa del Pazo, sita en Sta Eulalia de Curtis, de que es dueiio dicho D. Tomas Aiitonio Sanchez, y el de la de Lineiro, sita en Sta Maria de los Angeles, que per- tenece k D. Juan de Boado, marido de dicha su hermana. Por consiguiente este turno principiara en el D. Tomas desde ahora, en la inteligencia de que el, k quien corresponda el derecho de presentar, hk de hacerlo precisamte en el sugeto de dichas dos familias ; y solo en el caso de no haber en ninguna de ellas persona idonea podra presentar k un estrano. Cuando esto ult° suceda ser&. permitido k cualquiera de las dos familias, que se crea apto, acudir al Consulado para que este lo haga ecsaminar ; y juzgandolo digno conferirle la plaza con preferencia al estrano presentado. 3. La persona k quien toque la presentacion, ademas del sugeto que presente, podri acu- mular otro para que, en caso de que el primero no sea digno, recaiga en el 2°. . 4. El Consulado k quien se haga esta presentacion le conferir^, el empleo siempre que crea que es digno de el ; pero si dudase de su suficiencia mandari se le ecsamine. 5. El ecsamen se hara por tres persoiias condecoradas y acreditadas en el pueblo por su doctrina e integridad, que nombrarS, la misma Junta del Consulado, y presidir^ el S^ Prior, 6 a sii falta urio de los S^s Consiiles. 6. Se egecutar^, segun el metodo de S" Ysidro el R', encerrando al ecsaminando en una pieza provista de libros y de araanuense, en donde compondrS, una disertacion, pertene- ciente a su facultad, sobre uno de los tres puntos que le toquen en suerte, la que, pasadas 24 horas, leer&. 7. Los ecsaminadores le har&.n preguntas por espacio de una hora, no solo sobre la materia de ella, sino tambien sobre' toda la facultad. 8. Este ecsamen serk a puertas abiertas. La censura se ha.rk por votos secretes de los tres ecsaminadores solamente. 9. Si el ecsaminado saliese reprovado no podra apelar, pero podr^ pedir al Consulado segundo ecsamen con nuevos jueces, k que este deferiri. 10. En caso de ser desecnado si el patrono acumul& otro, entrar& en su lugar, 6 dan- dosele la plaza, si el Consulado lo quisiere asi, 6 ecsaminandosele en los terminos que el primero. 1 1 . Las propinas de los ecsaminadores, y mas gastos que se ocasionen, serkn de cuenta del pretendiente. 12. Si el patrono al principio no acumul6 alguno,: no se le admitirS. despues la acumu- lacion. 13. No siendo digno e! presentado, 6 los dos presentados por el patrono que este en turno, pasar^ este al otro en la misma forma que va dicho. 14. Si el presentado y acumulado por este no fuesen dignos, ^ombrar&. por aquella vez la Junta del Consulado, haciendose para ello el ecsamen y formalidades que quedan espresadas. 15. Cuando vacare el empleo de bibliotecario 1", ascender^' k aquella plaza el 2°, no habiendolo desmerecido; y el Consulado pasara aviso al patrono k fin de que presente sugeto idoneo, sea para la plaza vacante, sea para la resulta. £1 mismo aviso pasara cuando vaque la plaza de 2°. 16. El patrono que este en turno tendri un ano para hacer la presentacion, cuyo ter- mino dever&. correr desde la fecha del aviso que le dieie el Consulado. Si dentro de el no la hiciese, pasar^. al otro patrono, quien tendra otro ano. Pasados los dos, proveera libremte el Consulado. 17. En toda vacante nombrar^ el Consulado bibliotecario interino con medio sueldo, que podr&. ser lego, eclesiastico, 6 religiose. 18. Si el poseedor de alguna delas dos casas, que hoy llevan dichos dos hermanos del fun- dador, y k las que va afecto este patronato, no fuese descendiente de ellos, sera el poseedor de la otra patrono insolidum. ig. Si ambas casas se hallaren poseidas por sugetos que no fueren descendientes de ellos, cesar^del todo el patronato, y quedarS, la provision de bibliotecarios k la libre dis- posicion del Consulado. 20. Los productos 6 premios de los vales Rs que hoy hacen el fondo del establecimto, y el de los mas que se compren, con lo que se recoja de la herencia del fundor segn su tes- tamentoy codicilo, 6 bien los productos de cualquiera finca que con dichos vales se adquiera, tienen cuatro precisos objetos, 1° el pago de los sueldos de los empleados de la biblioteca, 2° los gastos necesarios en las'piezas de ella, sus utensilios, y gratif"" de los tres 10s oficials del Consulado, 3° la compra de libros, y 4° el aumento del fondo. 21. Asi el primer bibliotecario, como el segdo, deveran estar graduados precisamente de bachiller en una de las facultades mayores, y saber k lo menos la lengua francesa, sin cuyas circunstancias no podr^ ser admitida la propuesta. Tendran igual residencial, y'solo en caso de enfermedad & ausencia podra el uno escusar al otro. 22. El ler bibhotecario tendra de sueldo fijo doce mil reales anuales, y el 2° ocho mil ; pero k fin de aumentar por ahora el fondo todo lo qe sea posible, con arreglo k los deseos del lundor, rio disfrutara ni cobrara el t°, durante seis anos, mas qe nucve mil reales de vellon que emp'ezaran SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 517 Communications respecting Literary Institutions or-Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 16. Spain. empezaran icorrer en 1° de Ep° de 1807 j y el 2°, que se nombrar^ al fin de dichos aiios, solo Ajipendix, No. 32 disfrutar^ seis cientos ducados en cada uno de los cuatro sigtes, continuandosele luego los ocho mil referidos. 23. Deducido del total prem^ que produzcan los vales, el impte de los dos prims objetos que espresa el art" 20, se distribuirS, el resto p' mitad en los otrosdos siguientes, aprove- chando p^ uno y otro las mejores oportunidades. 24. Como el fundador h& dispuesto qe el Consulado se cobre de ciertos gastos originad^ en la biblioteca, por querer el solo tener esta gloria y resulta, deviendo por esta razon k sus fondos diez y siete mil cuatro cientos veinte y tres r^, y diez y seis mrs. y"", se reintegrarS, de los reditos de los fondos de la biblioteca al Consulado en el termino de seis aiios, en can- tidad igual por cada uno, deduciendose lo q« corresponde con preferencia a la compra de libros y aumento del capital indicados. . 25. Como este capital deve crecer mucho, cuando el Consulado creyese ser bastante, podra pagar k costa de 61 un portero con una modiea asignacion, cuyo nombramiento y seiialamiento de asignacion corresponder^ tambien k la Junta de Govierno. Este estara sugeto inmediatamente al bibliotecario mayor, y en su falta al 2° cuando le hubiere, y todos k la citada Junta, 6 en su defecto k los Sres Prior y Consules, en la misma forma que lo estan los demas empleados del Consulado, para los asuntos relatives al cumplimiento de sus encargos ; pero esta plaza no se proveer6, hasta que, del producto de los fondos sobre lo bastante, para pagarla sin omitir por ello ninguno de los otros objetos que quedan indicados. 26. Si pudiese conseguirse, serk del caso que el portero sepa la lengua Latina y tenga algu- nos principios mas, para que pueda ayudar al bibliotecario siempre que se halle solo. 27. Siempre que el Consulado tenga por conveniente hacer casa p^ trasladar a ella las escuelas de navegacion, con el objeto de que la biblioteca se e^tienda por las piezas que en el dia ocupan las mismas escuelas, podra sacar de los fondos, que v^n sehalados, la parte q<^ tenga por conveniente, con tal que sus reditos hayan crecido lo suficiente para suportar este gasto ; pues solo de ellos y no del principal habr^ de sacarse lo que se determine. 28. La biblioteca estar& abierta todos los dias esepto los Domingos y fiestas de precepto entero ; &,esepcion de dos vacaciones que gozar&. en cada ano, y dos medios dias k la semana, k saber, aquellas desde el dia de Reyes hasta el 20 del mismo mes, y desde el dia 15 de Agosto hasta el 30. Los medios dias senalados ser&n los de correo general, miercoles y sabado por la tarde. Las horas en que deberci abrirse la pieza, ser&,n, desde 1° de Octubre hasta fin de Marzo, k las 9 de la manana y tres de la tarde ; desde 1° de Abril hasta ult" de Setiembre, 6, las 8 de la manana y 4 de la tarde; y la de cerrarse, en todos tiempos por la manana, al medio dia; y por la tarde, en los cuatro meses de Nov'*, Dice, Enero y Febrero, a las 5 ; en los de Marzo, Abril, Setiembre y Octubre, &, las 6 J ; y eji Iqs de Mayo, Junio, Julio y Agosto, & las 7 1. 29. Cuando el Consulado tenga por conveniente nombrar el bibliotecario menor, debera este asistir en ella todo el tiempo que est6 abierta, cuidando de la division que el mayor le seiialare y ponga k su cuidado, dando, recogiendo, y colocando en su lugar los libros, y supliendo al mayor en los cases de ausencia 6 enfermedad. 30. Para las operaciones mas mec4nicas, que ocurriese hacer en dicha biblioteca interin no se nombra el portero de ella, se servir^, el bibliotecario del alcaide de la Casa Consular, y cuandd este estubiese ocupado, de cualquiera de los salvaguardias de la misma, siendo obli- gacion del citado alcaide impedir la entrada al que no lleve trage decenle, 6 entre con el sombrero puesto, ni permitir fumar, ni hacer ruido que pueda estorbar el estudio, entrar y sacar los braseros que deve haber en ella en su tiempo, y en el de estero y desestero, sacu- dir y Hmpiar los libros y estantes con ayuda de los salvaguardias, y con asistencia del bib- liotecario 6 bibliotecarios, para que esto se egecute con el debido orden y esactitud, abrir y cerrar las puertas y ventanas, limpiarla todos los dias, y guardar las Haves si el bibhote- cario quisiere confiarselas. 31. A fin de conciUar, en cuanto sea posible, las ideas del fundador con la necesidad de que la biblioteca sea bien asistida, mediante la mucha concurrencia de lectores que hay, se nombrara interinamte un ayud"* de bibliotecario, mientras no se nombra el 2°, con el sueldo de 200 k 300 ducados anuales k lo mas, para que ausilie y, en caso muy urgente, escuse al bibliotecario actual, cuidando principalmt^ de las piezas, su aseo, y limpieza de los libros. 32. Al tin de los ocho anos citados, que principiar£n k contarse desde 1° de Enero de 1807, si los fondos de la biblioteca hubiesen aumentado lo bastante, para q« con su pro- ducto pueda pagarse el 2° bibliotecario con arreglo al capitulo 22, quedando al mismo tiempo lo bastante para los mas objetos que quedan referidos, cesara el ayudante, y se pasar^ aviso al patrono para que haga la propuesta para la plaza de segundo bibliotecario. Pero si el producto de ios fondos no pudiese aun sufrir esta carga, continuari el ayud'e durante otros dos ainos, 6 mas si fuese precise. 33. Siendo por ahora suficiente un dia para el estero y otro para el desestero, se senala para el primero el dia de difuntos, y para el seg"!" el vispera de la festividad del Corpus. 34. Cualquiera atentado, violencia cudesalato, que se cometa.por algun concurrente, sera castigado por el cuerpo, para lo cual se servir^ S.M. concederle jurisdicion, 6 inmediatamte que esto suceda se daxk cuenta al Prior, disponiendose entre, tanto que los salvaguardias, porteros y alcaide, no permitan la salida de la casa al que se hubiese ecsedido. 35. Ningun empleado de esta biblioteca se podra ausentar sin espresa licenciadela Junta de Govierno, 6 del Sr. Prior, quedando k cargo del contador la vigilancia de su asistencia en las horas indicadas; deviendo dar cuenta a la Junta de cualquier falta que notare, para que tome la provid?^ que corresponda. 36. El bibliotecario, ni ninguno de sus subalternos, no podran esteaer, ni permitir^ se 479. 3 u 3 estraiga. Appendix, No. 3?. Commuiiicntiohs respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 16. Spain. S18 estrai Porl APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE iga, ni aun por pocas horas, libro algunO, aunque sea dejando recivo 6 por otro medio. la prima vez que contravenga cualquiera de ellos k este capitulo, se le descontara un mes de sueldo: por la segi^a seis meses : y por la tercera se le privarS, para siempre del em- pleo, y ademas se le cobrarS. en todo caso el importe de la obra, aunque no liaya estraido mas que un solo tomo. Al que denuncie se le concedera la mitad del importe de lo quede descuente al bibliotecario 6 subalterno. Y una copia de este articulo se fijar& en la biblio- teca para que conste k todos. 37. Los manuscritos, libros y obras prohibidas, estar&,n colocados en estantes separados, y bajo de una sola Have, que tendra el bibliotecario mayor, para lo cual solicitar^ el Con- sulado k favor de este la licencia necesaria k efecto de que pueda leer libros prohibidos ; y asimismo la orden correspondte para que, por el Tribunal del 8*° Oficio de Santiago, se dirija a este Consulado un ejemplar de cada uno de los edictos que -ban salido desde la publicacion del ultimo expurgatorio, y que asi se continue con los que salgan k lo adelante. 38. No manifestarS, el bibliotecario los libros prohibidos al que no ecsiba la correspon- diente licencia. 39. Para el uso y govierno de la biblioteca hahvk un indice general alfabetico de todos los autores de libros impresos y manuscritos. ' 40. Se har^ tambien otro indice general, en que todos los libros de la biblioteca se distri- buyan en clases 6 materias deque tratan, principiando por la Teologia, y dividiendola en sus partes, como son las Bibiias, 8*0^ Padres, expositores escolasticos y morales, Sa^. 41. Cada uno de estos indices tendra un suplemento 6 apendice, en que se estiendan los nuevos autores y materias que se vayan acopiando de nuevo, a fin de evitar entrerenglo- naduras en los indices principales. 42. Los libros y papeles prohibidos tendrin tambien indices separados, por autores y orden de materias, citandose en breve su expurgatorio & prohibicion. 43. Se conservar&,n para memoria los indices particulares de los estudios y librerlas que los bienhechores hayan donado a la biblioteca, espresando y recomendando su amor k la causa publica. ,44. Habr4 un libro en la secretarla en que se forme el catalogo de todos los bienhechores que hubo y haya en lo sUbcesivo, recordando sus beneficios y gracias que les hacen acreher dores k esta buena memoria. 45. Todos los libros se marcar&,n por afuera con una marca propia de la biblioteca, para que en todo tiempo conste su propiedad ; y se pondra otra marca distinta a los duplicados que hayan de beneficiarse, siempre que la Junta de Govierno lo disponga. 46. El bibliotecario mayor se informar^, de las ahnonedas en qe haya libros, antiguedades, manuscritos, y obras selectas de que se carezca, y dar^cuenta de ello 41a Junta de Govierno, per si tubiese k bien comprarlos. 47. Tambien se recoger^n en la biblioteca todos los peri6dicos, k qe el Consulado est4 subscrito 6 se subscribiere k lo adelante, haciendolos encuadernar al fin del aiio : de cuyas encuadernacion^s^ como tambien de las de los libros que lo necesiten, se preSentar^ por el secretario cuenta documentada a la Junta de Govierno, y se le abonar^n de los fondos de la misma biblioteca. 48. Para cualquiera otros gastos eventuales que ocurran hacer en la misma, reparos ii obras de ella, se hara tambien presente k la Junta, que determinara lo q« tenga por con- veniente. 49. En cualquiera de los dias de vacacion del mes de Enero de cada ano habr^ un recuento de todos los libros de la biblioteca, k presencia de los Sfes Prior y Consules, y con asistencia del secretario y contador, quienes deberin tener, en cada una de sus oficinas, una lista esacta de los libros que hay en ella, tomando nota de los que subcesivamente se compren, quedando a cargo de dicho sr. contador el hacer otro recuento de ellos por entre aiio, en cualquiera de las vacaciones que van indicadas. 50. La cuenta y razou correspondiente k este establecim*" se llevar^ por las oficinas de este Rl cuerpd, con separacion de los demas ramos, para presentarla k la Junta Genl 6 de Govierno, cuando esta lo tenga por conveniente, como asimismo k los bibliotecarios y patronos ; quienes como interesados podrin pedir las certificaciones que les pareciese ; y los libramientos relatives k ^1 espresar^h siempre que son correspondientes k los fondos destinados k la misma biblioteca. 51. El acrecentamiento progresivo de estos fondos en la parte seiialada k este fin, cesari cuando el Consulado lo tenga por conveniente, y lo contemple bastante para todos los objetos indicados, teniendo presente que el fundador quiso que haya los reditos suficientes para las atenciones, necesidades y sueldos de la biblioteca, y escuela de i^a letras en su pueblo, y que su animo ha sido aumentar edificio para aquella. 52. Habiendo sido tambien la mente del fundador de estos establecimientos el remunerar el trabajo de los sugetos, k cuyo cargo este el cumplimiento de los articulos que quedan menciohadbs, por los cuales se evidencia que mucha parte de el ha de recaer sobre el secretario, contador y tesorero del Consulado ; mando desde luego el cuerpo de las facul- tades que el mismo fundador le ha concedido en el codicilo bajo cuya disposicion muri&, su fecha 3 de Octubre del corrt^ ano de 1806; y procediendo de conformidad con sus albaceas, seiiala k cada uno de dichos sugetos la gratifon anual de mil reales de vellon, sacados de los intereses de la masa tdtal de vales que sirven de fondo para la biblioteca, 6 de cualquiera otra clase de fondos a que dichos vales puedan destinarse en lo subcesivo, cuya gratificacion empezar^ tambien a correr en 1° de Enero de 1807; esperando el Consulado que esta demostracion les servir^ de estimulo para celar por su parte con el mayor esmero sobre el cumplim" de dichos articulos. Cuyas constituciones fueron formadas por la Junta de Govierno de este Rl Consulado, con acuerd© . SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 51© acuerdo de los testamentarios del Sr. D. Pedro Antonio Sanchez, teniendo k lA visteu sus ultimas disposiciones. Y para que tengan efeclevo cumplimt" k nombre de la misma Junta, nos el Prior y Consuleslas finnamos con el Slio de la misma; en la Coruna k 22 de Dib^'e de 1806; Manuel Diez Tabeneraj Juan de Ovies Fuerte; Zeferino Arias; Jose Lucas Sabrada, secretario. (Es copia.) /. L. Sabrada. (Annex 3, to Enclosure 2, in No. 16.) Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. ROYAL ORDER of the King of Spain, 16 February 1 777.— (Ga/&«a.) El Rey. , I Regente de nii Audiencia del Reyno de Gahcia : Saved. Que haviendoseme representado, en el ano de mil setecientos sesenta y uno, por ese Reyno la precision en que se hallaba de obcurrir h la composicion de caminos trasversales de capital k capital, y otros interiores de 61, por la utilidad y beneficio que le resultatia del mas fkcil comercio entre sus naturales ; propus& igualmente la construccion de un Archive Gen' para cus- todiar los papeles de los cuatro oficios de asiento de esa Audiencia, para obviar los incesantes pleitos que se originaban de no estar los papeles con el cuidado que correspondia : que examinada esta solicitud por mi Consejo de la Camara, el de Castilla, y otros ministros, de Dii satisfaccion convinieron en la utilidad que resultaria k ese Reyno de la condescen- dencia con su instancia; y por decreto de dos de Marzo, de mil setecientos sesenta y tres, vine en que se construyese el archivo, y se compusiesen los caminos de capital a capital y los otros mteriores, y que para costear unas y otras obras, se impusiese un real en fanega de sal de la qiie se consumiese en el dicho Reyno (ademas de los dos reales ya impuestos sobre ella para los caminos generates) por el termino de diez anos, que se habian de cobrar desde primero de Abril, de mil setecientos sesenta y tres, sin excepcion de persona de qualquiera estado, calidad, y condicion que fuese, (a reserva de la que necesitasen los pescadores para salar sus pescados, que se les havia de dar k los precios que la pagaban) ; y que el producto de este impuesto se cobrase por los administradores de salinas, entregandolo de cuenta aparte k la tesoreria del Exto. de Galicia ; poniendo la construccion del archivo, y la com- posicion de caminos, a cargo del Marques de Croix, capitan general entonces del mismo Reyno : el qual haviendome propuesto, por varios motives, que se construyese el archivo en la ciudad de Betanzos, con remision de los planes echos para el, fui servido aprovarselo, y con efecto se sac& la obra al pregon, y se remat& en cabeza del arquitecto D. Andres Garcia QuiSoiies, en precio de oehocientos trienta y siete mil reales de vellon. Y que ultimamente se me ha espuesto por el mismo Reyno de Galicia, y medio de su Diputado General, Marques de Bosqueflorido, estar construido el edificio correspondte para el archivo publico y gen', sin faltarle ya requisite alguno para poderse trasladar a el los papeles, fui servido remitir a mi consejo de la camara la citada ultima representacion, con el plan que la acompanaba, sobre el establecim" de dicho archivo, y otros papeles relatives al asunto, para que me informase le que se la ofreciere y pareciere sobre el metode que debera observarse en este establecim'", i:eglas que podran seguirse en le subcesivo, numero de personas que seran necesarias para el servicie de dicha oficina, sueldos que podran asignarseles, y sobre que fondes, y todo lo demas que juzgare oportuno. Y haviendolo ejecutade, en consulta de trece de Set^ de este ano, despues de haver oido a mi fiscal, y pedido informes k los regentes que han side de esa audiencia, a cada ministro de les que la componen, y a les presidentes y capitanes generales de ese Reyno, teniendo presente que la metodica colocacion de papeles, pleitos, y demas instrumentos, que con lastimoso descuido y abandono se estan perdiende en sotanos, y parages humedes de la ciudad de la CeruBa, exsige de necesidad Tirgentisima pronto remedio; que estos papeles, entregados en el d'l-eC k la humedad y kla. corrupcion, sen los pleitos y negocies seguides en esa audiencia, en que per necesidad se han presentade instrumentos de honor, por tenencias de hacienda y otros derechos, en cuia deterioracion, y en la ignorancia de ellos per la falta de noticias y colocacion bien ordenada, sen notablemente perjudicados sus naturales : Que aunque para su custodia y colocacion se ha fabricado dicho archivo en la ciudad de Betanzos, tiene los considerables inconvenientes de la distancia de la audiencia, el estar en sitio espuesto a una ocupacion y quema del enemiigo en tiempo de guerra, y el ser humido : Que los citados papeles con metode en ninguna parte pueden ser tan utiles come k la vista y proximidad de la misma audiencia, que cuidara del mejor servicie de los empleados, y del adelantam*" del mismo archivo : Que a 16s que concurren a ella con motive de su pleito particular, se les facilita el adquirir noticias, que 6 por documentos, 6 por ejemplares, puedan instruir el proceso y fortalecer su dereche, las que solo pueden dar con seguridad y sin trabajo, les que se criaron en los mismes quatro oficios, las que no adquirian en otra parte qualquiera que sea, si no se fija el archivo dende este la audiencia, para que su proximidad les facilite el informarse prontamte de ellas, y solicitar o omitir su saca: Que cabalmente hay en esa dicha audiencia una capaz pieza senalada para las discordias, que ayudada de otras tres, que tiene k su in- mediacion, lograri, de toda la extension que se necesitaj para la custodia y colocacion de los papeles que se estan perdiendo, cuyas piezas no hacen falta k dicha audiencia : conformandeme en un toda con su dictamen, por reselucien mio a dicha consulta, he venido [entre otras cosas, en que se destine para dicho archivo] la sala que llaman de discordias, y sus tres piezas immediatas de esa audiencia. Que sin la menor detencion se transladen keWa. tedos los papeles, que estan en el convento de S" Francisco, Buen Suceso, Hospl, y demas parages humedos de la ciudad de la Cqruiia: que se pongan tambien todos lo» pleitos ^ue esteh en 16. Si Annex 3, to Enclosure 2, in No. 16. 479- 3 "4 los 520 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Communications respecting Literary InstitQ'tions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. i'6. Spa IK. Appendix, No. 32. ^^s oficios enteramte fenecidos, y los abandonados, y sin seguirse de diez anos h esta parte, asi de los cuatro oficios de asiento como de los dos criminales : que subsistan en la secre- taria del acuerdo los papeles que tiene, como que deven estat k la mano para el govierno de la audiencia : que para el cuidado de esta traslacion de papeles, su colocacion, separa"" de materias, clases, y provincias, formacion de yndices, libros maestros, se creen las plazas de un archivero, un oficial con' el titulo de mayor, dos escribientes, y un portero, sin per- juicio de aumentar mas oficiales, segun lo dicte la esperiencia y la necesidad, senalandoles sus respectivos sueldos del fondo y exsistencias del arbitrio del r^ acrecentado en fanega de sal : que de este arbitrio salgain tambien los precisos gastos de la traslacion de papelesj cajones para su colocacion, estantes, mesas, y demas necesario : que la audiencia forme un arancel de los derechos por donde se devan governar las sacas de instruraentos del archivo, oyerido al archivero y fiscales, y siguiendo por ahora la practica que observan los oficios de asiento, y que se destine para quartel el edificio construido en la ciudad de Betanzos. Y en su consecuencia haciendo sido servido de proveer los destines, por despachos separados, de archivero, oficial mayor, escrivientes, y portero, y asimismo dado la orden correspondi^iiite,al Ministerio de Guerra, destinando k quartel el edificio construido en la ciudad de Betanzos, OS mando que inmediatamte deis orden se ase6 la sala que llaman de.discordias, y sus ires piezas inmediatas, que sin la menor detencion se pasen k ella todos los papeles que estan en el combento de S° Francisco^ Buen Suceso, Hospital, y demas parages humedos. de la ciudad de la Coruna. Que se pongan tambien todos los pleitos que esten en los oficjo^ enteramente fenecidos y los abandonados, y sin seguirse de diez aiios a esta parte, asi de los cuatro oficios de asiento, como de los dos criminales : que subsistan en la secretaria del acuerdo los papeles que tiene como precisos, y que deven, estar k la mano para el gobierno de la audiencia : que la audiencia forme un arancel de los derechos por donde. se deva gobernar la saca de instrumentos del archivo, oyendo al archivero y fiscales, y siguiendo por ahora la practica que observan los oficios de asiento, remitiendolo k mi infraescritp Senorio de la Camara de Gracia y Justicia, y Estado de Castilla, para que recaiga en el mi Rl aprovacion: que no se devan sacar del archivo papeles originales:algunos,y que lascom- pulsas sola se puedan dar con orden de la misma audiencia, citadas las partes con dia, y ora, y firmadas precisamente del archivero. Y asimismo mando k mi tesorero del exto^ del Reyno de Galicia que, con libram'" vuestro de y pntregue las cantidades que espresareis haver sido precisas, y se necesitasen para la traslacion de papeles, caxones, preparar dicha sala de dis- cordias y tres piezas inmediatas donde se hai de colocar el archivo, y en guarnecerlas de estantes, mesas, y otros muebles necesarios, del producto del real acrecentado en fanegia de sal, que haciendolo en esta forma se le abonar^,, y pasar&.n en cuenta en los que diere de.los caudales que estan k su cargo. Para todo lo cual os doy pleno poder y, las mas amplia comision en forma, que asi es mi yoluntad; fecha en S" Lorenzo a veinte y dos de Octubre de mil setecientos setenta y cinco. YO EL REY. Por mandado del Rey, Nuestro Senor.: Jose Egnacio de Goyeneche. El Rey. D° Jose de Zuazo y Bustamante.de m'l Consejo, Regente de mi R' Audiencia del Reyno de Galicia. Ya saveis que, por despacho senalado de mi R' mano, de veinte y dos de Octubre djB rail setecientos setenta y cinco, fui servido daros comision para que entendieseis en la forma- cion del archivo publico y general del Reyno de Galicia, que tengo mandado se estable?ca en la ciudad de la Coruna, pasando k la sala Uaraada de discordias, y sus tres piezas immedia- tas, sitas en las casas de esa audiencia, todos los papeles que estaban en el convento , de Sn Fran", Buen Suceso, y otros parages de esa dicha ciudad, y los pleitos de los oficios en- teramente fenecidos, y los, abandonados, y sin seguirse de diez anos k esta parte, form'a^- dose por la audiencia arancel para el gobierno de la saca de instrumentos, oyendo 4 sus fiscales y al archivero, remitiendolo para mi Ri aprobacion, y senalahdo el importe de los sueldos del archivero, oficial mayor, y dependientes, , y il que se causase en la traslacion de papeles, cajones, preparar dicha sala de.discordias y tres piezas inmediatas, , y guar- necerlas de estantes, mesas y otros muebles necesarios, del producto del real acrecentado en fanega de sal de las que se consumiesen en ese Reyno, con destine &, sus caininos de,tra- vesia y demas interiores, y con las demas circunstancias, espresiones, calidades, y. cqn- diciones en la citada mi Rl. cedula de comision declaradas, segun que mag largo y por menor en ella se contiene, k que me refiero. Ahora saved que, al mismo tiempo de que por vos se daba cumplimiento k la formacion del dicho archivo, y en uso de vuestra comision, -puestos en pose""? de sus correspondientes empleos los sugetos que fui, servido nombrar para archivero, oficial mayor, escrivientes, y portero del archive, los hicisteis empezar sus tareas, se acudid ami consejo de la camara por D. Tomas Perez Salgado, titulandose archivero de esaR' audiencia, haciendo, presente su merito, los perjuicios que se le causaban por la formacion del nuevo archivo, y pidiendo se le recompensase con eL nombramiento ^e oficial segundo k otro equivalente. Que tambien se acudi&al mi consejo dela camara, y,a,p>^ consejo Rl en sala de justicia, por los escribanos de asiento de esa audiencia, que como ■ tenientes sirven sus respectivos oficjos, y por los dueiios propietarios de los mismos oficios, unos y otros oponiendose a la formacion del archivo, y principalmente k los nombramientps .echospor mi de archivero en el Licenciado D. Vicente Alvarez de Neyra, de oficial mayor pn el fiei" D. Jacinto Gayoso, y demas dependientes, obligandose ellos &, servir estos empleos sin salario alguno ; y exponiendo y alegando las razones que les asistian, instaron k que por haberse cometido los vicios de obrepcion y subrepcion, y para poder formalizar su compe- :tente demanda de retencion, se vajasen los papeles, y expediente al consejo en la sala de justicia. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. ogl justicia. Que k esta sazon representasteis vos sobre su resistencia y obstinacion a cumplir Appemlix, No. 32, con la entrega de papeles, y demas que teaiais providenciado, y otros varies pyntos y par- , ' ticularidades acaecidasen el asunto, motive por que 4 tres de los citados escribanos hicisteis Coinmunications arrestar en el Castillo de S. Anton de esa ciudad, a cuyo tiempo representaron de nuevo respecting Literary todos los escribanos de asiento insistiendo en su anterior prfetension, y a q^ se les pusiese en Institutions or Li- libertad, y en su vista, se os comunic& la orden correspondiente, -a. ello por el gobernador del braries, in floreiga mi consejo, y para que cesaseis en vuestra comision, sin llebar adelante ja formacion y ^"un'r'es. gastos del nuevo arcnivo, hasta que en vista de otras noticias, se resolviese por mi lo que „ ~^~~ fuese mas conveniente : que tomadas estas segun los antecedentes, y las mismas ocurrencias, . ' y oposiciones causadas en la formacion del archivo, result& de todas ser notorias 6 in- fundadas las varias oposiciones, y resistencias que se ban mobido, para que en esa Ciudad se establezca el archivo general para el Reyno de Galicia, el cual, esprecisamente necesario y util a todos los naturales de ese R"°; que la formacion de archives donde convenga en que tanto enteresa el publico, es propio de mi soberania, sin que ningunas personas puedan reclamarlo por sus intereses particulares, ni menos en el preserite caso en que median otras fundadas razones y circunstancias : que ni Ja lastimosa disposicion en que se hallan lo» papeles, ni lo resuelto por mi, y- el nombram'" de archivero, oficial con el titulo de mayor, y demas dependientes del archivo, no permiten de mora en su debida observancia, en que interesa el estado, la adm<"» de justicia, y el peculiar derecho de los vasallos : que examinado mas por menor el sitio en que se deva formar el archivo, y tomadas por vos varias noticias y echo otros calculos, se ha tenido, por conveniente el situarlo en los siete cuartos 6 piezas vajas de la casa de esa audiencia, segun teneis representado, y asimismo el tomar otras providencias que aseguren, y faciliten con mas prontitud, el util establecim'" del insinuado archivo en esa ciudad. Y habiendose visto y tratado, en mi consejo de la camara, sobre todos y cada uno de los recursos echos en este particular, y asimismo sobre vuestras repre- sentaciones e informes particulares que se os han pedido, y le, que a cerca de unos y otros, y en gen^ de todos, ha expuesto el mi fiscal, por resolucion mia, a consulta suya de ocho de Enero de este ano, conformandome en todo con su dictamen, he venido en resolver y mandar, entre otras cosas, se lleve a puro y debido efecto la formacion del archivo publico y genl del Reyno de Galicia, continuando vos en la comision que para ello hos tengo conferida : que se eoloque dicho archivo en los siete cuartos 6 piezas vajas, que hay en las mismas pasas de esa audiencia, envolvedados con comunicacion de unos a otros, segun teneis representado : que cuando Uegue el caso de necesitarse mas extencion, se amplie a la sala llamada de di^ordias y sus tres piezas inmediatas, sitas tambien dentro de las casas de esa audiencia, sin que bajo pretesto alguno lo pueda impedir el comandt^ gen'; pues el edificio de la audiencia, y todas sus piezas, fueron construidas k expensas de ese Reyno, y es justo que a su utilidad se destine, lo que no sirva de mayor beneficio a otros fines : que en el caso de que el prest« que fuese de esa audiencik, necesite de dos de dichas piezas para bodega y carbonera, se le construyan donde parezca mas conveniente y comodo : que asi el costo que tei^gan estos, k su debido tiempo, como los actuales precisos gastos que se causen en la traslacion y colocacion de papeles, importante veinte y cinco mil ciento y noventa rr^ y treinta ms vellon : el de la disposicion de dichas siete piezas, que asciende k veinte y ocho mil rrs, y los sueldos del archivero, oficial mayor, escrivientes y portero, contandose desde el mismo dia en que se les puso en posesion de sus correspondientes empleos, segun los titulosy cedulasque les estan librados, que quedan en su fuerza y vigor, y ascienden a viente y nueve mil y seis cientos rr^ anuales en esta forma : al arcljivero doce mil rr^ : al oficial mayor ocho mil y ocho cientos, a cada uno de los dos escrivientes tres mil tres cientos, y dos mil y dos cientos al portero, unos y otros anuales se satisfagan del referido impuesto del real acrecentado en fanega de sal para la constru"" del archivo, y la composicion de caminos de travesia de capl a capl del citado Reyno de Galicia, cuio impuesto he sido servido prorogar por otros diez aiios : que no se incluya por ahora, y hasta que se esperimente si son precisos, los doce mil setecientos y diez reales del importe de la disposicion de la sala de discordias y sus tres piezas inmediatas, y los siete mil de los dos quartos para bodega y carbonera del preside que fuese de, esa audiencia: que al escribano Pedro Domingo Sanchez Vaamonde nom- brado por vos para la entrega formal de papeles al archivero, asi para su cargo y responsa- bilidadj como para seguridad de los escribanos de asiento, se le satisfaga desde luego el salario de nueve rr^ diarios por todo el tiempo que se ha ocupado y permanezca en la citada entrega 6 inventario; y que tambien se abone diaviamente lo que estimeis y reguleis nece- sairio^nn amanuense inteligente en encuadernacion, rustica y regular, que forme buena letra redonda para los rotulos de los envoltorios y estantes, por todo el tiempo que se ocupe en estas tareas, el Cual lo habeis de nombrar vos k vuestra satisfaccion. En su conse- cuencia, y dejando en su fuerza y vigor los titulos y ceduias del archivero, oficial mayor y demas dependientes del archivo, y la citada mi Rl cedula de veinte y dos de Octubre de mil setecientos setenta y cinco, en quanto k la comision que hos tengo conferida para enten- der en la formacion del citado archivo publico y general del Reyno de Galicia, os la amplio y estiendo para en cuanto k los puntos, casos, y circunstancias, en esta mi cedula declaradas; y para que tenga el mas puntual y debido efecto, y fin y termino el util esta- blecimiento del archivo, y no continue el perjuicio esperimentado hasta aqm: os mando que inmediatamte dels las ordenes necesarias, y tomeis las providencias y precauciones convenientes, para que se lleve adelante su colocacion en los siete cuartos 6 piezas vaja^, ' que hay en las mismas casas de esa audiencia, extendiendolo cuando fuese necesario,^ lu espresiida sala llamada de discordias y sus tres piezas inmediatas, sin permitir que, bajo de ningun pretesto, se os impida por personas algunas, ni menos por los escribanos de asiento: que prevereis asimismo el que al preside que fuese de esa audiencia, en el caso de necesitai los, se le construian dos piezas para bodega y carbonera ; que hbreis segun queda ■ 479. 3 X, ' senalado. 522 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. sehalado, el importe de la traslacion- y colocaeion de papeles, el de-la disposicion de dichas siete piezas 6 quartos vajos, y el de los sueldos del archivero, oficial mayor, escriviente? y portero, y el de lo que se abone al escribano Pedro Domingo Sanchez Vaamonde, por su trabajo, y al que nombrareis por amanuense rotulista por el suio, pot- solo el tiempo que permanezcan en el, del referido impuesto del real acrecentado en fanega de sal de las que se consuman en ese Key"", segun tengo dispuesto y mandado; y que en un todohos arregleis k lo que se espresa, contiene, declara y manda en la rhencionada mi Rl cedula de comision de veinte y dos de Octubre de mil setecientos setenta y cinco, y 6, lo nuevamente prevenido en esta por lo qual os la amjilio y extiendo, segun que en ella se contiene y declara, confiriendoos como os confiero por ambas al mencionado efecto pleno poder y auto- ridad, y la mas amplia comision en forma, con todas sus incidencias y dependencias anexi- dades y conexidades, que asi es mi voluntad* Fecha en el Pardo, k diez y seis de Febrero, de mil setecientos setenta y siete. YO El> REY. Por mandado del Rey nro. Seiior: Nicolas de Mollinedo. Es copia igual de las dos Reales cedulas que anteceden xie creacion de este R^ archivo, que en el dia esta k mi cargo. Coruna, seis de Marzo, de mil ochodientos treinta y cinco. romiiiuuications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 16, Spain. (Es copia.) J. L. Sabrada. 17. Sardinia. (17.)— SARDINIA. Sir Augustus Foster to Viscount Palmerstoii. My Lord, Turin, 25 August 1835. Refeering to your Lordship's Despatch to Mr. Fox, under date of October 2gth, of last year, and to a letter addressed to'me by Mr. Backhouse, of the 7th ult°, I have now the honour to transmit to you a copy of the reply which the Sardinian Secretary of State has transmitted to me, with his answer to the several questions contained in the memorandum that accompanied your Lordship's Despatch, and which you had received from Mr. Hawe&, the Member for Lambeth, on the subject of certain information that he was desirous of obtaining relative to the state of the National Museums and Libraries in Foreign Countries, for the use of a Committee of the House of Commons. I have, &c. (sighed) Augustus F. Foster. Enclosure in No. 1 7. The Sardinian Secretary of State to Sir Augustus Foster. Turin, le 17 Aout 1835. Enclosure in Le soussign6. Premier Secretaire d'Etat pour les Affaires Etrangferes, a I'honneur de No. 17. transmettre ci-joint a M. le Chevalier Fester, Envoy6 Extraordinaire et Ministre Plenipo- tentiare de S. M. Britanniqtie, une note contenant la r^ponse aux diverses questions posee* dans sa lettre du 20 Juillet, relativement aux Musses et aux Bibliothfeques Publiques qui existent dans les etats du Roi. Le sous^igne espere avoir satisfait aux d^sirs de M. le Chevalier Foster, et il saisit, &c. &c. (sign6) Le Comte Solar de La Marguerite. Sub-Enclosure in No. 17. MEMOIRE sur les Musees et Biblioth^ues Publiques dans lesFltats Sarde. Sub-Enclosure II existe a Turin cinq Musees Roy aux appartenant a I'Universit^, savoir, celui d'An- in No. 1 7. tiquit^s, qui contient aussi le Mus6e Egyptien, ceux de Zoologie, de Mineralogie, d'Ana- tomie, et de Pathologic. Les Musses sont places sous la dependance du magistrat de la reforme, qui a la sur- veillance et la direction de tout ce qui concerne I'instruction publique. Chaque M usee a un directeur. La place de directeur du Musee d'Antiquites est vacante depuis quelques mois a cause du dec^s du Professeur Barucchi. Le Professeur Gen6 est directeur du Mus6e de Zoologie; le Professeur Sismonda est directeur du Musee de Mineralogie; le Professeur Demichelis de celui d'Anatomie, et le Professeur Gallo du Musee de Pathologie. Le premier de ces Musees a en outre deux assistant: les deux autres ont un assistant ' ' chacun : deux preparateurs sont encore attaches au Mus^e de Zoologie, et un k ceux d'Anatomie et de Pjathologie. Comme les directeurs ont un traitement en leur qualite de professeurs, il ne leur est accorde qu'une augmentation de traitement en leur qualite de directeurs de musees, outre le logefhent ; elle est de 600 francs pour les Antiquites, pour la Zoologie, et pour la Mine- ralogie, de 400 francs pour les deux autres. Les SELECT* COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 528 Les d6penses annuelles ne sauraient fetre indiquees d'une mani^re precise : le montant Appendix, No. 3a. annuej de celles qui sont relatives k I'acquisition de nouveaux objets d'histoire naturelle est dependant des circonstances, et surtout de la ([uantit6 d'objets doubles que les directeurs Comwunicatioija des musees - peuvent se procurer "dans les etats, moyennant lesquels ils Obtiennent de nou- respecting Literary veaux objets de I'etranger par des echanges. Institutions or Li- Pour leMusee d'Anatomie, outre les modMes que Ton se procure de I'etranger, I'assistant cranes in Foreign au musee confectionne des modeles en cire sous la direction du professeur. """ ries. Le Musee de Pathologie s'augmente de tous les objets pathologiques remarquables ^ Sardinia que fournissent les autopsies dans les hopitaux de I'etat. Les chirurgieps de ces ^tablisse- ' mens sont tenus de les transmettre au Mus6e. Lorsque des occasions extraordinaires se sont presentees de faire des acquisitions importantes, le Roi a accord^ des fonds speciaux en sus des sommes assignees. Lesil^penses annuelles pour les acquisitions ordinaires, pour la conservation des objets, et pour I'entretien des Musees, est de 600 francs pour les Antiquit^s; de 3,000 iPrancs pour la Zoologiejde 600 francs pour la Minferalogie; de 75O francs/pour I'Anatomie; et de 400 francs pour la Pathologie. Ces diflFerentes sommes sont portees annuellement sur le bilan de TUniversit^ de Turin. Les Musees sont ouverts au public deux jours de la semaine durant trois heures. Les personnes de distinction et les etrangers peuvent avoir accSs aux Musees les autres jours, en se presentant aux directeurs ou aux employes de ces etablissemens. La biblioth^que de I'Universit^ de Turin est placee sous la dependance du magistral de la reforme. ' II y a un bibliothecaire, un vice-biblioth6caire, trois assistans, et cinq distributeurs. La'place de bibliothecaire est vacante actuellement : Monsieur I'Abbe Malaspina, membre du magistral de la r6forme, en fait les fonctions. Le traitement attache a la place est de 2,400 francs. Le vice-bibliothecaire est Monsieur I'Avocat Costa ; les assistans. Messieurs le Chevalier • Gazzera et les Docteurs Arri et Priero. La.depense annuelle pour les livres est de 5,700 francs. Lfes autres depenses, de rehure, d'entretien, sont de 1,700 francs, outre celles des employes, qui montent h 10,000 francs. i Les fonds sont.portes annuellement sur le bilan de I'Universite. . Tous les imprimeurs de I'etat sont obliges de transmettre 4 labibliotheque de I'Universite Tin exemplaire des ouvrages qu'ils impriment. Dans le cas d'acquisitions extraordinaires et importantes, le Roi accorde des fonds speciaux. Le nombre des volumes de la bibliotneque de I'Universite est de 90 k 95 mille ; celui des manuscrits de 3,100 environ. II ne se fait pas des rapports annuels. Les rapports qui concernent la biblioth^que, ainsi que les comptes, sont transmis au magistral de la reforme. La biblioth^que est ouverte au public de 9 heures k 4, tous les jours non chomes, k Texception du tems des vacances. II n'est permis de porter les livres hors de la biblioth^que que sur une permission speciale du inagistrat de la reforme. Les professeurs sont autorises a retirer les livres qui con-' cernent les sciences dont I'enseignement leor est confie. Les livres extraits de la bib- liotheque doivent 6tre restitues apr^s un mois; et si celui qui les a retires en a besoin apr^s cette epoque, il doit les representer chaque mois au bibliothecaire. Les manuscrits ne peuvent, en aucun cas, ^tre transportes hors de la biblioth^que. , 11 existe une autre biblioth^que a I'Universite de G^nes : eile n'est que peu considerable jusqu'ici ; mais elle augmente de jour en jour par des fonds extraordinaires, qui sont destines a eel objet selon que les circonstances pecuniaries de cette universite le permettent. 11 y a un biblioUiecaire, un assistant, et un distributeur. Le bibliothecaire est Monsieur I'Avocat Gandolfo, I'assistant est Monsieur I'Abbe Grassi, le distributeur. Monsieur I'Abbe Castiglioni. Le traitement attache k la place de bibliothecaire est de 1,000 francs. (18.)-FRANCE. ,8, p^,^^^_ Earl Granville to Viscount PalmersPon. My Lord, Paris, 31 August 1835. I HAVE the honour to transmit to your Lordship the answers which I was directed to obtain from the French Government, to certaiu questions put by a Committee of the House df Commons, relative to the Public Libraries and Museums in France. The Minister of Public Instruction, anxious to afford to the Committee every inforrnation on thi»,subject which could be at all interesting, has at the same time obligingly sent a copy of the Ordonnance of the King, and the regulations which regard rtie Royal Library, and also a copy of the Budget of 1835, in which is inserted the report which M. Guizot sub- mitted to the King on the situation of the Literary Establishments of this country. I have, &.C. ,, . (sigped) Granville. ■ 479- 3 « 2 . 524 APPENDIX TO REPORT 1- ROM THE Appendix, -No. 32. rommuntcations jespfcung Literary Iilslitutii>ns or Li- braiies in Foreign Countries. 18. France. Enclosure j, in No 18. Enclosure 1, in No, 18. REPONSES aux Questions adressees au Gouvernement Frangais sur les Musees. ' l'^^. Existe-t-il dans la Capitale de la France un Museum National consacr^ aux Arts, aux Antiquites, et ^*rHistoire Natufelle? II existe h Paris plusieurs Mus6es consacr6s aux Arts, aux Antiquites, et a I'Histoire Naturelle. En premiere ligne, on doit citer le Mus6e Royal du Louvre, oi se trouvent, l". Une col- lection de plus de 1,200 tableaux des ecoles Francaise, Flamande et Italienne. 2°. Une collection de plus de 900 statues, bustes, bas-reliefs ou raorceaux precieux d'antiquites en marbre ou en bronze. 3". Une collection nombreuse de vases Grecs. 4°. Plus de 25,000 dessins des maitres de toutes les 6coles. Dans les m^mes batimens se trouvent le Musee Royal des Antiquites Egyptiennes et Grecques, oil Ton- a reuni une grande quantite d'objets d'arts tr^s-precieux ; et le Mus^e Naval, destine a conserver tous les modMes des diverses constructions de la Marine. Dans les galeries du Palais du Luxembourg, est place le Musee Royal du Luxembouig, consacre a I'exposition des productions des artistes vivans, acquises par le gouvernement. Un autre musee, appele le Mus^e d'Artilleiie, et place dans les batimens de St. Thomas d'Aquin, renferme aussi des objets d'un haut interet. On y voit exposee une collection trfes complete d'anciennes armures, et un grand nombre de modeles d'armures nouvelles. Enfin, Paris poss^de encore le Mus6um d'Histoire Naturelle ou Jardin des Piantes. Get etablissement est compost d'un jardin de botanique, avec des serres chaudes et des serres temper^es, de plusieurs galeries oii sont dispos^es methodiquement des collections apparte- nant aux trois v^gnes de la nature, d'une galerie d'anatomie, d'une galerie de botanique, d'une menagerie d'animaux vivans, d'une bibliotheque d'histoire naturelle, et d'un amphi-* theS,tre avec des laboratoires pour les cours. Le jardin fournit aux etablissemens publics, qui lui sont analogues, des graines d'arbres et des piantes utiles aux progr^s de la botanique, de I'agriculture, et des arts ; et il donne aux pauvres malades celles qui sont propres au soulagement et k la guerison de leurs maux. 2*. Sous le controle et la direction de qui est-il place ? Tous les Musees dits Royaux, sont places sous la direction de rintendant-g6n6ral de la Liste Civile. Le Musee d'Artillerie rentre dans les attributions de M. le Ministre de la Guerre. Quant au Mus6um d'Histoire Naturelle, il se trouve sous la direction du Ministre de rinstruction Publique, en ce qui concerne la haute administration ; et sous le controle de M. le Ministre de I'lnt^rieur, pour tout ce iqui concerne les travaux de constructions et de reparations. 36. Combien y a-t-il de directeurs qui y sont attaches, et quels sont leurs emolumens? La loi constitutive du Museum d'Histoire Naturelle fut promulgee le 23 Juin 1793; I'organisation de cet etablissement devait done dtre toute republicaine ; aussi y est-il dit que tous les officiers du Mus6um d'Histoire Naturelle porteront le titre de professeurs et jouiront des m^mes droits ; et que la place d'lntendant du Jardin des Piantes est supprimee. Cette m6me loi porte que I'assemblee g6nerale des professeurs choisira, parmi les professeurs, un directeur 61u pour un an, et qui sera chaise de faire executer les reglemens et les deliberations de l'assembl6e qu'il pr6sidera. Cette loi n'a pas cesse d'6tre en vigueur ; chaque professeur pent done devenir directeur, s'ilest choisi par ses pairs. Quant aux emolumens, le principe d'egalite pour les profes j seurs ayant ete consacre par la loi, ils sont tous traites sur le m6me pied, et touchent les memes appointemens, lesquels s'elevent a la somme annuelle de 5,000 francs pour chacun d'eux. L'organisation des autres musees est enti^rement differente ; dans les Musees Royaux, il y a un directeur nomme par le Roi sur la presentation de I'intendant-general de la liste civile ; le directeur du Musee d'Artillerie est nomme par le ministre de la guerre. 4«. Entre quels departemens est-il divise ? Le Museum d'Histoire Naturelle, sous le rapport de I'enseignement, est divise en treize d6partemens, c'est-a-dire, en autant de chaires qu'il y a de professeurs, savoir: — Botanique; Zoologie: Geologie: Min6ralogie: Reptiles efPoissons: Culture: Animaux articules: Chimie fenerale : Botanique rurale : Chiniie appliqu^e : Anatomic comparee : ' Anatomie humaine : lollusques et Zoophytes. 56. A quoi se monte la somme totale? Les depenses totales s'elevent a la somme de 404,000 francs, ainsi repartie : Francs. Traitemens de 13 professeurs, a 5,000 - - - - - - 65,000 Bibliothecaire, maitie de dessin, aides naturalistes, pr^parateurs, &c. - 135,000 Gratifications, See. ------___.. 3,000 Traitemens de huit naturalistes voyageurs - - - - - - 25,00b Galeries : frais des cours, de la bibliotheque, achat de livreSi frais de bureau, &c. ---. _-_-__ 64,000 ' Jardin: Salaires des journaliers et eleves jardiniers, conservation des serres, &c. ---------- Menagerie : Nourriture des animaux, fourrages, grains, &c. - Ateliers et entretien : Menuiserie, serrurerie, vitrerie-peinture, &c. - Bois de chauffage pour les serres, les loges, les galeries, &c. - 32,000 44,000 24,400 1 1,600 6«. Quels sont les principaux directeurs ? 404,000 Comme SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 525 Comme nous I'avons deja dit, le principe de I'egalite ayant 6te consacre par la loi de Appendix, No. 32. Juin 1793, il n'y a pas de directeurs principaux ; tons les prcjfesseurs spnt places au mSme rang; ils sont au nombre de treize. En voici la liste:— MM. "GeofFroy St. Hilaire; Chev- reul ; Cordier ; de Blainville j Brongniart ; Gay-Lussae ; Dumeril ; Flourens ; de Tussieu ; Valenciennes ; Mirbel ; Audouin ; Ad. Brongniart. * 76. Sur quels fends est pay^e la depense du Museum ? Toutes les depenses du Museum d'Histoire Naturelle sont payees sur les fonds duTr^sor. 8*. Quels sont les statuts generaux qui determinent I'admission du public au Museum ? Le public est admis au Museum d'Histoire Naturelle, en vertu de r^glemens approuves par l'4iutorit6 sup^rieure. Ainsi, d'apr&s les rfegiemens, les galeries d'histoire naturelle sont ouvertes au public et aux Strangers, les Mardi et Vendredi de chaque semaine, depuis trois heures jusqu'a la nuit, pendant I'automne et I'hiver, et depuis trois heures jusqu'a sept, pendant le printems et I'^te ; aux^tudians, les Lundis, Jeudis et Samedis de chaque semaine, depuis onze heures jusqu'a deux. Communications respectipg 1 .iteir(iiy Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries., j8. France. Enclosure 2, in No. 18. REPONSES aux Questions adressees au Gouvernement Frangais sur les Biblioth^ques. 1°. Combien y a-t-il de Bibliothfeques Publiques dans la Capitale de la Fvanqe ? Paris possede un assez grand nombre de .bibliotheques qui peuvent se ranger en deux categories: dans la premiere se trouvent lest)iblioth^ques publiques proprement dites, dans lesquelles il suffit de se presenter pour 6tre admis ;,elles sont au nombre de cinq ; savoir, la. .Bibliotheque Royale, la Biblipth^que de I'Arsenal, la Bibliotheque Mazaiine, la Bib- iioth^que de Ste Genevieve, et la Bibliotheque de la Ville. Dang la 2^. categoric se trouvent les bibjiothequps qui ne sont pas pr6cisement publiques, en ce que tout le monde ne peut pas profiter des richesses qu'elles renferment, mais qui, cependant, sont ouvertes k une certaine classe de lecteurs, faisant partie des corps pour lesqiiels ces bibliotheques ont 6te cr^^es, ou munis d'autorisations speciales accord^es par qui de droit : telles sont les bibliotheques de la Chambre des Deputes, de la Cliambre des Pairs, de I'Ecole de Droit, de I'Ecole de Medecine, du Museum d'Histqire Naturelle, de rinstitut, et les bibliotheques relevant de I'lntendance Gfoerale de la Liste Civile, (biblio- theques dp Louvre, du Palais Royal, &c. Sec.) 26. Gombien y a-t-il de biblioth^cairies attaches h chacune d'elles ? et quels sont leurs emolumens 1 , Le nombre des bibliothecaires n'est pas le m6me dans chaque bibliotheque,; il varie 6elon les besoins et, surtout, selon Timportantse dn d^pot qui lenr est cpnfie. On congpit sans peine, en effet, que la Bibliotheque Royale, par exemple, qui renferme 700,000 volumes, demande un plus grarid nombre de conservateurs que la Bibliotheque Mazarine qui ne contient que 90,000 volumes. Voici, au surplus, I'^tat exact du personnel dans chacun de ces 6tablissemens : Bibliotheque Royale. — Un Directeur-president, 10,000 francs; huit conservateurs A 6,000 francs ; sept conseryateurs-q,djpints k 3,000 francs. Bibliotheque Mazarine. — Un Biblioth^caire-administrateur ; cinq conservateurs ; deux 6ous-bibliothecaires. , . Bibliotheque de rArsenal.—Un Bibliothecaire en chef; un conservateur-administrateur ; cinq conservateurs, , Bibliotheque de Ste Genevieve. — Un Bibliothecaire-administrateur ; cinq conservateurs ; deux conservateurs-adjoints. Bibliotheque de la Ville. — Un Bibliothecaire ; un sous-bibliothecaire. Le traitement des bibliothecaires ou conservateurs, dans lesquatre dernieres bibliotheques cirdessus enoqcees, varie de 3,000 a 5,000 francs. 3^. Quelle est la somme depens^e annuellement pour les livres que renferment les bibliotheques? ^ ♦ La spmme depensee annuellement dans chacune des bibliotheques pour achats de livres, pour reliures, &c. est tres-variable : le chiffre de cette allocation change presque tous les ans ; il est en ce moment pour les bibliotheques de I'Arsenal, de Ste Genevieve, ainsi que pour la Bibliotheque Mazarine, de 2,000 h 3,000 francs ; la Bibliotheque de la Ville a un fonds vote par le conseil municipal, qui s'i6ieve a la somme de 7,500 francs. 11 est em- ploy^ k des achats d^ livres, ^ des reliures, &c. Quant k la Bibliotheque Royale, ^ta- blissement qui se trouve place sous un regime tout special, elle a un credit de 77,000 francs, destiri,^ a I'acquisition de livres, de manuscrits, d'estampes, de castes, de m^dailles, &c., et un autre credit de 29,000 francs allou^s pour frais de reliures et pour remplacement d'ouyrages depareille s. La Bibliotheque de la Chambre des Pairs a une somme de 10,000 francs consacres £l I'acquisition des livres et aux frais de reUure. La Bibliotheque de la Chambre des Deputes a pour le mfime object une somme de 1 2,000 francs. £t la Bibliotheque de I'Universit^ d6pense une somme de 1,800 francs. 46. Quelles sont les depenses que toutes ces bibliotheques entrainent annuellement? Les credits alloues pour les depenses annuelles des Bibliotheques Publiques de Paris, s'eievent^ une somme totale de 400,500 francs, ainsi r^partie entre les^ivers etablissemens : . 479. 3x3 Bibliotheque Enclosure 2, in No. 18. 526 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. i8. France. Francs. Bibliothfeque Royale - - , - - 274,000 Bibliothfeque Mazarine - - - - 35.000 Biblioth^que de I'Arsenal 36,000 Biblioth^que de S'e Genevieve 40,500 Biblioth&que de la Ville - 15,000 400,500 56, Sur quels fends sont-elles payees ? Ici, il faut distinguer: les depenses des quatre premieres biblioth^ques ci-dessus 6e. Quels sont les statuts gen^raux qui leglent radmission du public ? Chaque bibliotheque a un r^glement particulier pour radmission du public : mais, en general, ces r^glemens ont beaucoup de rapports les uns avec les autres, puisque leur but est d'indiquer les heures oh la bibliotheque est ouverte au public, la mani^re dont on doit demander les livres, et la majii^re dont on doit les rendre, 8ic. La Bibliotheque Royale a seule des rfeglemeHS int^rieurs beaucoup plus etendus, et qu'il serait inutile de rapporter ici ; cela tient d'abord k son importance, et, ensuite, au regime particulier auquel elle est soumise, et qui difFfere essentiellement de tout ce qui est usit6 dans les autres bibliotheques. — (Voir les pieces jointes.) 76. Quels sont actuellement les principaux biblioth6caires ? Bibliotheque Royale. M. Letronne, directeur-president du conservatoire de la Bibliotheque Royale. MM. Van-Praet, Magnin, Champollion, Hase, Silvestre de Sacy, Raoul-Rochette, Thevenin, Jomard — conservateurs. MM. Ballin, Dubeux, Reynaud, Faurill, Guerard, Paris, Mionnet, Dumersan, Lenor- mant, Duchesne aine, Duchesne-Tausin — conservateurs-adjoints. Bibliotheque Mazarine, M. Petit-Radel, bibliothecaire-administrateur. MM. Amare, de Feletz, Osmond, Guillen, Pignolet — conservateurs. MM. Jhiebaut, Goujon — sous-bibliothecaires. Bibliotheque de I'Arsenal. M. Ch. Nodier, bibliothecaire en chfef. M. Alex. Duval, conservateur-administrateur. MM. Viallard, Amyot, Seulie, Cayx, Delagrange, Roulin — conservateurs. Bibliotheque de S'^ Geneviive. M. de Lancy, bibliothecaire-administrateur. MM. Le Chevalier, Cas. Benjeur, Drevet, Robert, Aime-Martin— conservateurs. MM. Massabiau, de Bretonne — conseiTateurs-adjoints. Bibliotheque de la Ville. M. Rolle, bibliothecaire ; M. Ravenel, seus-bibliethecaire. Bibliotheque de la Chambre des Pairs. M . Carrey, bibliothecaire. Bibliotheque de la Chambre des Deputes. M . Beuchot, bibliothecaire. Bibliotheque de Vlnstitut. M. Feuillet, bibliothecaire ; M. Fallot, sous-bibUothecaire. Bibliotheque de VUniversite. M. La Romiguiere, conservateur. S^, Quel est le nombre de volumes renfermes daps chacune de ces bibliotheques ? 700,000 a la Bibliotheque Royale. 90,000 k la Bibliotheque Mazarine. 1 76,000 a la Bibliotheque de I'Arsenal. 160,000 a la Bibliotheque de S'e Genevieve. 50,000 a la Bibliotheque de la Ville. 16,000 a la Bibliotheque da la Chambre des Pairs. 50,000 a la Bibliotheque de la Chambre des Deputes. 40,000 a la Bibliotheque de FUniversite. 98. Quel est le nombre des manuscrits? 80,000 a la Bibliotheque Royale. 3,437 a la Bibliotheque Mazarine. 6,000 a la Bibliotheque de I'Arsenal. 3,500 k la Bibliotheque de Ste Genevieve, loe. Quelle est en general la nature de I'administration de ces bibliothSques ? Ces etablissemens sont generalement administres sous la surveillance et la direction du Ministre de I'lnstruction Publique, par des administrateurs nommes par lui, et charges de faire executer les reglemens qui regissent chacune des bibliotheques. Les administrateurs sont SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 627 Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. ' s 18. France. sont done les representans de I'autorit^ dans ces etablissemens : ce sont eux- qui cor- Appendix, No. 33 respondent avec le rainistre, pour lui faire connaitre les besoins des d^p6ls qui leur sont confies. Quant k la Biblioth^que de la Ville, elle est independante du Minist^re de I'lnstruction Publique ; elle se trouve placefe sous la direction du Pr^fet de la Seine, et sous la surveillance du conseil municipal, qui examine I'emploi des fonds vot^s par lui. lie. S'imprime-t-il annuellement quelque compte ou quelque rapport relatif k ces etablissemens ? Les comptes relatifs aux bibliotheques qui se trouvent sous la dependance du Ministere de I'lnstruction Publique, s'impriment tous les ans dans le budget. Quelquefois, lorsqu'il s'agit d'appeller I'attention et I'int^ret des Chambres Legislatives sur quelques-unes des bibliotheques publiques, on a soin d'inserer au budget des i:apports plus detailles, oil sont ^numeres les nouv6aux besoins de ces etablissemens. On a joint ici* un exemplaire du rapport qui fut fait au Roi en 1834, sur les etablissemens litteraires, et qui fut insure au budget de cette ann^e. 1 2*. Quel est le nombre des bibliotheques dans les provinces de la France ? II y a en France, dans les departemens, 250 bibliotheques publiques environ : dans ce nombre ne sont point comprises les bibliotheques qui sont specialement annexles, soit d. des corps savans, soit k des etalilissemens d'utilite publique, soit k des col]6ges| institu- tions, &c. 13*. Sont-elles placees sous la surveillance de quelqu'autorite du gouvernement ? Comme elles sont entretenues aux frais des villes, elles sont naturelleraent plac6es sous la direction immediate des Maires et des Conseils Municipaux : mais elles n'en sont pas moius (SOUS la surveillance de I'autorit^ superieure, c'est-a-dire de M. le Ministre de I'lilstruetion Publique, represente par MM. les Prefets. * See Enclosure 4, below. Enclosure 3, in No. 18. ORDONNANCE du ROI, etReglement concernant la Bibliotheque Royale. See Appendix, No. 13, p. 405. Enclosure 3, in No. 18. Enclosure 4, in No. 18, MINISTltRE DE ^INSTRUCTION PUBLIQUE. BUDGET DES DEFENSES DE t'EXERCICE 1835. RAPPORT au Roi sur le Regime Financier de I'Universite. Sire, Paris, le 18 Novembre 1833. Le regime financier de I'Universite a ^te depuis longtemps I'objet de nombreuses attaques. Ces attaques ont eu presque toujours quelque chose de confus et de pen reflechi : tantot, au nom des principes qui proscrivent les sp^cialites financieres, on a entrepris de detruire le systeme'de I'Universite tout entier, oubliant que les considerations de ce genre ne sont pas les seules d'apres lesquelles cette grande institution doive etre appreci^e, et conrant le risque de tout renverser pour obtenir une reforme partielle ; tantot on a Invoqu^ des theories absolues qui ne tenaient aucun compte de la diversity des faits, et dont les pretentions etaient repouss^es par une experience qui compte d^JEl vingt-cinq ann6es. * Cependant la frequente reproduction des m^mes griefs est un fait grave, et qui appelle toute I'attention du gouvernement. Si les theories des adversaires de I'Universite ,n'offraient pas k I'administration un guide sur, auquel elle put s'abandonner avec eonfiande, elles in- diquaient du moins la necessity d'un severe examen; lorsque des plaintes durent et se renouvellent, qu'elles partent d'hommes eclair^s et consciencieux, qu'elles invoquent 'des principes dont la v^rite, dans eertaines lipiites, ne saurait 6tre contest^e, on est fonde k pr^sumer qu'il y a, dans les institutions, quelque reforme k accomplir. Dans la derniere session des chambres, en repoussant des innovations qui me semblaient ficheuses ou tem6raires, j'ai annonce I'intention d'examiner avec soin toutes les questions qui se rapportent a Tadministration financiere de I'Universite, et de proposer a Votre Ma- jeste les changements qui me paraitraient immediatement praticables, et compatibles avec les principes constitutifs d'un ^tablissement auquel est attachee la prosperite de I'instruc- tion publique en France. Pour m'acquitter de cette obligation, je me suis entoure de toutes les lumieres; j'ai rassemble une commission composee de membres du conseil d'etat, de la cour des comptes, de I'administration des finances et de fonctionnai*es de I'Universite ; 479. 3x4 cette Enclosure 4. in No. t8. , 528 ' APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix. No. 32. cette commission, reunie sous ma presidence, a etudie les reglements et tous les details de ~: . i'adrainistration; toutes les opinions ont 6te soutenues, toutes les objections discutees. Je Commanicutions viens rendre compte a V6tre Majeste des- resultats de ce travail. InsifMiii"^?; L''*^^ Jusqu'a present les d6penses et les recettes de I'Universite ne sont point entrees dans le braries in"f"orei£n ''"^get general de I'etat ; elles ont forme un budget special, annexe au budget du minis- Countries *^'^ ^^ I'instruction publique. Les depenses de I'Universite n'en etaierit pas moins exa- '_ mihees, controlees et vot6es par les chambres, avec sp^cialite pour chaque cbapitre, et obli- 18. FiiANCE. gation pour le ministre de se renfermer dans les credits legislatifs; mais les recettes, au lieu d'6tre pergues pour le compte du tresor public, I'etaient pour le compte et par les soina de I'Universite elle-m6me, qui pouvait disposer des excedants en les placant ^ son profit, comme aussi, en cas de besoin, elle aurait pu 6tre requise de pourvoir au deficit, en prenant sur ses capita ux les sommes necessaires pour combler I'insuffisance des revenus. Les revenus de I'Universite sont de deux sortes, des propriet6s et des Imp&ts. En fon dant cette grande institution, Napoleon voulut qu'elle fut investie de tous les moyens de satisfaire elle-m^me ^ ses besoins. II lui donna done une dotation ; et comme la dotatioi» ne suffisait pas, il I'autorisa a percevoir sur I'enseignement divers droits, qui sont de v6rita- bles taxes. Ainsi I'Universite n'avait rien k demander ^ I'etat. Cette condition d'un etablissement special, vivant de ses propres ressources, et dans une parfaite independance, etait en harmonie avec les principes du regime imperial. Les proprietes de I'Universite comprennent: 1° la dotation de 400,000 francs de renteSi accordee ^ litre d'apanage par le d6cret du 1 7 IVI ars 1 808 ; 2° les rentes acquises par rUniversite elle-m^me sur ses fonds libres : elles figurent au budget de 1 834 pour envifon 122,000 francs; 3' enfin, le decret du 11 Decembre 1808 et celui du 15 Novembre 1811 ont attribu6 a FUniversite tous les biens appartenant au ci-devant Prjrtanfee Fran§ais, aux universites, academies et colleges. Parmi ces biens, et c'est le plus grand nombre, les uns sont des edifices alFectes £l des etablissements d'instruction publique, les autres sont des domaines dont le produit est evalue pour 1834 ^ ^^ modique somme de 15,000 francs. Ce qu'ont demande plu^ieurs fois les theories radicales, qui confondent toiites choses et poursuivent aveuglement des desseins raal congus, c'est qu'on enlev&t a I'Universite ses proprietes, qu'on ray&t ses rentes du grand-livre, qu'on alien&.t ses domaines, et que I'in- struction publique fut completement assimilee aux autres branches de I'administration. Les motifs Jes plus graves, et de divers genres, repoussent un tel projet. Je me bornerai Ek indiquer les principaux.- Depuis sa fondation, I'Universite est dotee et proprietaire. Elle existe avec cet attribut ; son titre est legal, et la possession en est deJEi assez ancienne pour avoir revetu les carac- teres du droit. De nombreux legs ont ete faits a I'Universite, dans la confiance que ce droit serait maintenu. Sans doute le droit de propriety des etablissements publics n'estpas exactement le m^me que le droit de propriete des particuliers ; il est moins absolu, et demeure toujours place sous la haute surveillance de I'etat. Cependant il m6rite beaucoup de respect, et il n'y a que des raisons aussi rares que graves qui puissent permettre d'y porter atteinte. Quand ces raisons n'existent pas, le legislateur doit s'abstenir. Or, en ce qui concerne I'Universite, iLest fort possible d'allier le respect de la propri^t^ a I'observa- tion des bonnes regies financieres. Attaquer les proprietes de TUniversite, ce serait done violer un droit a plaisir, bouleverser une grande existence d6ja consacree par d'importants services, renouveler enfin les pratiques violentes qui ont, a d'autres epoques, frappe les communes, les hospices, et dont il n'appartient pas au regime sage et legal sous lequel nous vivons de donner de nouveau le f&,cheux exemple. Une consideration d'un ordre plus eleve decide la question. II importe a la prosperite comme h. la bonne direction de I'instruction publique, que les hommes qui s'y vouent soient investis, dans leur modeste situation, d'un haut degre de dignite, de consistance, et animes d'un esprit commun et permanent; double but qui ne serait point atteint s'ils n'etaient pas gouvernes par quelques-uns de ces principes, et unis entre eux par quelques-uns de ce& liens qui fortifient et grandissent les individus, en les arrachant a I'egoisme ou a la faiblesse de I'isolemMit. A cette condition seule, les etablissements d'instruction publique peuvent repondre k ce que leur demande la societe. On a trap souvent meconnu les differences profondes, qui aeparent les services dans lesquels il s'agit uniquement de faits materiiels, comme la perception des imp6ts, et les services qui s'appliquent a des faits moraux, comme la propagation des saines etudes et I'education de la jeunesse. Pouv les services materiels, la puissance du mecanisme est suffisante ; pourvu que chaque vouage execute sa fonctiofl, la machine marche, et le but est atteint. Tout pent se faire avec la simple hierarchic de I'adminisiration, sans que le corps administratif lui-m&me ait ce caxactfere de permanence et de vitalite propre qui n'appartient qu'aux fondations. II n'en est pas de meme des services moraux; comme ils sont d'une autre nature, ils ne s'accomplissent aussi qu'a d'autres conditions; il leur faut quelque chose de plus fixe, de plus libre, et pour ainsi dire une organisation vivante, qui, dans certaines limites, se developpe, agisse, subsiste par elle- m^me, et ne puisse pas 6tre detruite ou raodifiee selon les id6es d'un Jour, et par un simple acte d'administration. Cette constitution et ce caract^re particulier que reclame I'interet social pour les ser- vices de ce genre, la propriete seule peut les donner. Ce principe est d'une telle verite que 1^ meme oil les faits materiels et les faits moraux se m#lent et se confondent, comme dans les hospices, par exemple, c'est toujours au moyen de fondations et d etablissements pr*- prietaires que, dans tous les temps et chez tous les peuples, on a cherche k accomplir une oeuvre pour laquelle le mecanisme de I'administratioa ne semblait pas offrir as-sez de res- sources et de gaiantiea, Si SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MtfSEUM. 629 Si nous revenons maintenant k des considerations purement financiSres, le systfeme qui Apt)endix, No. 32. constitue rinstruction nationale en etablissement capablje de dotation et de propriety, a — encore en sa favour Ife merite de favoriser rallfegement des charges publiques. Dans I'etat Conimunications quelquefois ils sont sans objet determine ; quelquefois ils imposent des conditions, et le *^°'i'''^''|cs^ donateur aesigne un emploi special ii ses lib6ralites. II est evident que les ressources pro- ^g p„.jj(jf. eurees par ce moyea diminuent, et diminueront de plus en plus, le fardeau qui p^se sur ! r^tat. Si Ton d^truisait l'Univer&it6, que deviendraient toutes ces donations ? Les personnes charitables 16gueTaient-elles leurs biens au budget general de I'etat? II n'y a qu'un Etablissement dote et proprietaire qui puisse recevoir et k qui Ton veuille donner. j&fiiiv il n'est personne qui pense A enlever aux etablissements particuliers d'instruction, aux colleger par exemple, le caractere d'Etablissements susoeptibles de posseder et d'ac- qudrir. Or c'est une gaxantie presque neoessaire pour ces etablissements, que I'Universite qui ks dirige, qui les gouverne, qui les contient tous dans son sein, poss^de les m^mfes facultes, et jouisse des m^mes avantages. Que I'etablissement g^n^ral soit dote et proprie- taire, les etablissements particuliers le regarderont comma attache aux m^mes inter^ts, iamme'd«s m6mes sentiments que les leurs, et vivront avec coniiance sous son autontE. Mais les raisons qjai exigent la conservation des proprietes de I'Universite sont loin de B'eteadre aux imp6ts qui lui ont 6t6,affectes. Ici la question se presente sous un autre La portion des revenus de I'Universite qui provient des impots se divise en six branches diff6rentes. Au budget de 1S34, '^ produit total est portE pour 3,049,700 francs. En premier lieu se presente la retribution dite universitaire, Etablie, en mSme temps que I'Universite elle-m&ne, pan: le d^cret du 17 Septembre 1808. Cette taxe caasjste dans le vingti^me du prix de la pension pay6e pour i'^ducation secondaire ; elle porte sur toutes les classes d'el^ves et sur tous les etablissements, qu'ils soient entretenus par Tetat, par les communes, ou par de simples particuliers. A la retribution universitaire se joint le droit annuel, sorte de patente, payee, pour I'exer- cice de leur profession, par les maitres de pension et les chefs d'institution. Les divers droits per§us dans les facultes pour les inscriptions, les examens et les di- plomes, forment la troisi^me branche des impots universitaires. ~ Au dernier rang, et pour un faible produit, il faut placer les sommes payees pour les diplomes d'emploi, pour I'ouverture de cowrs publics, enfin la portion qui revient k I'Univpf- site dans les amendes prononcees pour cojiiferaventions aux r^glements universitaires. II est de toute Evidence que les motifs, qui consacremt le droit de I'UniversitE k la posses- sion de sa dotation et de ses domaines, ne s'appliquent pas aux impots. Des impats ne sauraient jamais devenir la propriete de personne ; ce principe est incontestable pour les etablissements publics, aussi bien que p©ur les particuliers. En these generale, et sauf quelques rares exceptions, I'afFectation d'imp6ts speciaux k I'entretien de certains services publics est mauvaise, et contiraire k toutes les regies dkme boime administration. Loin de trouver dans la perception des impots afFeetes k ses dEpenses un element d'independance et de dignitE, I'tTniversitE y rencontre une cause d'affaiblissement moral et une source de nom- breux inconvenients. Un Etablissement tout paternel et bienveUlant, doat le pays attend les plus grands bienfaits qui puissent 6tre donnes aux hommes, IfEducation morale et le^ lumieres, ne doit jamais revEtir le caractere fiscal ; ce melange d'afctributions nuit aux rap- ports que rUniversit6 doit entretenir avec tous ceux qui dependent d'elle, et tend k ab?^isser cette grande institution au niveau d'une machine financi^re. II n'est pas moins nuisible k I'intej^t de finances engage dans la question; un corps enseignant est peu propre k tenir des caisses, k peroevoir des impots. Point decais'ses particuli^res, point de perceptions spEciales, un seul tresor pour toutes les dEpenses et pour toutes les recettes de I'etat, voila rEforme, alorsmeme que la science financifere ne conseillerait pas de I'entreprendre ■Nous avons done pensE qu'il convenait, d'une part, de remettre au tregor le soin de psrce- voir les 'diverses taxes universitaires, et, de I'autre, d'en inscrire le produit au budget des recettes de4' possession de tous les avantages publics que doit lui valoir sa fortune; mais, si je ne me trompe, les augmentations de credit que je demande sont trop peu considerables, et les motifs en sont trop imp^rieux, pour qu'on puisse les ajourner. Sans doute la situation de la fortune publique prescrit k vos ministres d'ecarter toute d^- pense de luxe. Mais ce n'est point un luxe que I'^ducation nationale, et les progr^s de I'intelligence et de la science doivent etre ranges aujourd'hui parmi nos interets les plus positifs et les plus pressants. Aucun sacrifice ne doit coiiter k un gouvernement pour satisfaire aux conditions de sa nature et pour accomplir sa destin^e., Or, la destinee de v6ti;e gouvernement. Sire, sa vocation, c est de se mettre k la t^te du d^veloppement de n6tre civilisation, c'est-k-dire, de travailler par de- constants efforts k satisfaire ces deux grands besoins de notre societ6 moderne, le bien-6tre et I'intelligence. C'est un beau privilege pour un gouvernement que d'etre ainsi associ^ au progr^s et k ramelioration despeuples, de puiser sa vie dans ce qui augmente leur bonheur, et de se fortifier de leur perfect! onnement., L'histoire ne nous montre que de rares exemples de ce concours et de cette harmonie. Mais, grace eL son origine nationale, 1^ gouvernement de 479. ' 3 Y 2 "Vdtre Appendix, No. 3a. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 18. France. 532 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 18. France. Votre Majesty n'a d'autres intSr^ts que ceux de la nation elle-mSme. Ce n'est pas lui qui tellu ^trejaloux des conqu^tes de I'industrie; I'industrie n'est pas sa rivale, elle est son paiee : lis se soutiennent et s'enrichissent I'un I'autre, Ce n'est pas lui qui peut craindre que les esprits s'^clairent; le jour oii, d'un bout du royautne ^I'autre, tous les Frangais pourraient lire ses paroles en les comparant k celles de ses ennemis, le jour oii I'ignorance et les demi-lumiferes feraient place partout aux 6tudes laborieuses et aux connaissances positives, ce jour 1^, les passions perdraient presque tout leur empire, et I'ordre social ne courrait plus aucun p^ril. Guide par cette id6e. Sire, j'ai passe en revue toutes les branches de radministration k laquelle j'ai I'honneur de pr6sider; et partout oii j'ai appergu, soit un service r^ellement en ^ouffirance, soit une grande lacune, je n'ai pas h6sit6 k proposer les moyens d'y pourvoir; persuade qu'il y a urgence, et que ne pas accorder k I'instruction publique les moyens de progr^s et de d6veloppement qu'elle peut encore reclamer, ce serait manquer aux destinies du gouvernement de V6tre Majeste, et a la mission que la France doit remplir parmi les peuples ^claires. Apr^s avoir present^ d'une maniere g6nerale la justification du supplement de credit que je reclame, je demanderai a V6tre Majeste la permission de lui soumettre les motifs qui m'ont d6termin6 a proposer chacune des allocations nouvelles. J'entre done dans I'examen des divers articles du budget de mon departement sur lesquels portent les augmentations de credit. Chapitke I. — Administration Centrale. Art. 2. — Traitements du Conseil Royal de l' Instruction Publique. , Somme allouee en 1834 " Sorame demandee pour 1835 Augmentation Francs. 65,000 75.000 10,000 Cette somme de 10,000 francs que je demande en addition au credit ouvert pour le conseil royal, est destin6e si porter de six k sept le nombre des members de ce conseil, c'est-a-dire a remplir la place rest^e vacante depuis la mort de M. Cuvier. Dej^ dans le budget de i834,j'avais propose cette augmentation ; les chambres ne I'ont point aocord6e ; mais I'experience n'a cesse, depuis cette epoque, de fortifier ma conviction, et je me crois dans robligation de renouveler ma demande. Si le conseil royal n'etait qu'une sorte de magistrature uniquement appelee a exercer une action collective, rendant des arrets disciplinaires, et surveillant, seulement sous le rapport moral, tout ce qui concerne I'instruction publique, je n'insisterais pas pour qu'il fut plus ou moins nombreux; les arrets auraient la m^me valeur, la m6me autorite, soit qu'ils fussent sign^s par six ou par sept membres ; et quoique le nombre des affaires rendit peut- itre necessaire d'augmenter le nombre des juges, je ne demanderais rien, le z^le pouvant dans ce cas suppleer au nombre. Mais on se fait une id6e tr^s-inexacte des attributions de ce conseil, si Ton ne voit en lui qu'une jurisdiction et qu'un pouvoir coUectif. Independamment des jugements qu'il pro- nonce et de la surveillance morale qu'il exerce, le conseil royal de I'instruction publique est appel6 a remplir une mission toute scientifique ; il est le regulateur permanent des Etudes en France ; c'est lui qui doit diriger 1'enseignement, le modifier au gre des besoins de I'esprit humain, et le maintenir constamment au niveau des progrfes de la science. Or, quelque ^tendu que soit le savoir des membres d'un pareil conseil, pense-t-on qu'ils puissent 6tre tous egalement juges de toutes les parties de I'enseignement? Au point oii sont par- venues les connaissances humaines, nul ne peut parler avec autorite que des questions scientifiques dont il a fait une etude speciale ; ainsi, pour que les fonctionnaires du corps enseignarit consentent k recevoir telle ou telle direction, pour qu'ils se soumettent avec confiance aux decisions du conseil, il faut que ces decisions emanent d'hommes dont ils reconnaissent I'autorit^ scientifique, et qui soient, m6me k leurs yeux, s'il est possible, les chefs legitimes des etudes qu'ils professent. On voit done que, si, pour la surveillance morale et disciplinaire. Taction du conseil peut ^tre. collective, pour ce qui regarde la di- rection des Etudes, il faut qu'elle soit, dans I'origine, individuelle et speciale. Un membre competent pour chacune des grandes branches de I'enseignement, voila la condition sans laquelle le conseil royal de I'instruction pubhque ne saurait atteindre au veritable but de son institution. Amsi, en stante pres semblables k celui de n&tre University ; et partout entrer autant d'hommes sp^ciaux qu'il y a de branches speciales d'eriseignement, Prusse, le conseil de I'instruction publique est compose de douze membres ;-enBaviSre, en Saxe, il s'el^ve a pen pr^s au mdme nombre. Nous sommes loin, quant k present, de songer k de- mander un conseil aussi etendu. Le temps viendra peut-^tre ok les develop pements pro- gressifs de I'instruction publique en France rendront indispensable I'accroissement du nom- bre de ses surveillants. Mais, pour le moment, nous ne cherchons .qu'^ pourvoir aux besoins les plus urgents. Depuis la perte de M. Cuvier, I'important travail administratif dont il ^tait charge daris I'instruction publique est supporle par un autre membre du conseil royal; SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 533 royal ; mais les sciences naturelles et m^dicales ne sont plus qu'incompl^tement representees Appendixr No. 33 dans ce conseil : on sentira sans doute combien il injporte de faire cesser ce f^cheux inter- r^gne, et j'espi^re que Votre Majeste m'approuvera d'avoir persist^ ^ demander I'augmenta- tion du credit n^cessaire pour la nomination d'un septi<^me conseiller. Art. 3. — Traitement des Emphyis, Indemnites, Secours, Travaux extraordinaires. Cranmunications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Eoreign Countries. Somme allouee pour 1834 Somme demandee pour 1835 - Augmentation Francs. 263,000 273,000 10,000 ■ I I I UH,. !I4U L'ex6cution de la loi du 28 Juin, et I'activite imprimee aux divers services du minist^re, ont entrain^ dans les bureaux un tel accroissement de travail que la co-operation de quelques nouveaux employes est devenue necessaire. Je ne citerai qu'un fait pour justifier I'emploi de ces auxiliaires, c'est )e releve de la cor- respondance. 11 suiEra pour faire apprecier ^ Votre Majest6 dans quelle proportion' s'est accru le travail des bureaux. Les depouillements que j'ai fait faire constatent que le nombre des dep^ches arrivees et distributes dans les diverses divisions de mon ministere s'est elev6 : En 1829, si 27,280; En 1830; a 30,056; En 1831, a 30,711; En 1832, a 37,855. Tandis qu'en 1833 le nombre de ces mSmes d6p^ches a ete de 55,463. Et le nombre de celles que le ministere a exp6di6es, lequel etait. En 1829, de - En 1830, de - En 1831, de - En 1832, de - s'est elev6, en 1833, k 10,854; I2,n8; 13,352 ; 15,626; 33,149- . . ^. A quoi il faut ajouter 41,785 exemplaires de circulaires; ce qui fait en tout 74,934 depeches, c'est-S.-diTe cinq fois autant qu'il en a 6te exp^di^ en 1832. Et qu'on ne suppose pas qu'un tel accroissement ait r^sulte d'une vaine manie d'or- donner, de reglementer; toute cette correspondance a eu pour objet des affaires po- sitives; toutes ces circulaires etaient necessaires pour assurer I'execution et I'efficacite de la loi. Ce mouvement d'affaires devait entrainer n6oessairement un sw-oroit de d^penses. II y a ete pourvu au moyen du credit allou6 pour le service de I'instruction primaire. Cet emploi de credit ne violait point la specialite, puisque le prelfevement avait pour objet de donner k I'instruction primaire les developpements presorits par la loi. II y avait urgencej Tout retard aurait ete nuisible et justemeint blilme. Mais il importe que I'instruction primaire proprement dite, c'est-a-dire les ecoles primaires, ne soient h I'avenir privees d'aucune partie des fonds qui leur sont attribues ; voil^ pourquoi je demande sur I'article 3 une augmentation de 1 0,000 francs, somme h peu prfes %ale aux depenses extraordinaires 3ui ont 6t6 soldees, et qui, loin de pouvoir se reduire, doivent tendre plutpt k s'accrpitre esormais. Art, 10. — Impressions. Somme allou6e pour 1834 Somme demand6e pour 1835 Augmentation jFratxcs. 19^500 32,000 12,500 18. FeAN£3E. Cette augmentation est destin^e k faire feee aux frais des nouvelles impressions de- mand6es par les chambres, ou exig6es par les travaux d'ex6cution de la loi du 28 Juin. D'une part, les chambres ont, avec juste raison, demand^ qu'il fut public un compte detaille de I'emploi des - credits vot^s par elles; de I'autre, il a.ete necessaire, pour mettre k execution la loi du 28 Juin, de faire imprimer des instructions multipli^es, auxquelles ont ete annexes des tableaux, des modules d'etats, des plans d'^coles, &c. Les frais de ces diverses impressions s'elevaient, au i^r D6cembre, k plus de 33,000 francs, ce qui suppose environ 36,000 frapcs.pour Tann^e enti^re. Or le qredit allflMe n'est que de 19,000 francs. C'est encore sur les sommes destinees k Tinstruction primaire que cet exc^dant ded^penses a dfi etre aequitte. II en sera de m^me pour I'exercice 1834, J'ai cru qu'il impostait qu'en 1 835 on rentr&t dans l!ordre regulier. En deniandant une aug- mentation de cridit de 12,500 francs, j'pse dire k Votre Majest6 que j'ai reduit.autant qu'iI etait possible I'^valuation des d^penses probables. Je suis porte a qroire que, dans la realite cette evaluation sera depassee. 479. 3^3 ^^'^- ^3'— 5S4 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 18. France. Art. 13. — Depenses diverses et imprevues. Sorame allouee pour 1834 Somme demandee pour 1 835 Augmentation Francs, 8,000 1 0,000 2,000 Avant que I'ordonnance de V6tre Majeste du 13 Octobre 1832 eiit d^tache de men de- partement I'administration des cultes, les depenses diverses et imprevues etaient supportees en partie par cette administration. Depuis que la distraction a Hh operee, ces depenses n'ont pu diminuer, malgre la plus severe economie, parce qu'elles sent applicables a des faits qui devaient rester les m^mes, et qti'il n'est pas possible de changer. En con- sequence je demande que le credit soit r6tabli tel qu'il etait avant le 11 Octobre .1832. CiiAPiTRE II. — Services GiN^RAux. Art. 18. — Examen des Livres pour I' Instruction Primaire et pour l' Instruction Secondaire. Somme demandee pour 1835 ------ 15,000 francs. Ce credit figure pour la premiere fois au budget. N6anmoins la d^pense n'est pas nou- velle. Conformement h une decision prise par V6tre Majesty le 12 Aofit 1831, a la suite d'un rapport qui lui fut pr6sent6 par I'un de mes pred^cesseurs, une commission est in- stituee pour proc^der a I'examen et a la revision des ouvrages destines k I'enseignement primaire. Les membres de cette commission avaient droit a quelques indemnites, et cette depense extraordinaire est encore de celles qui, jusqu'ici, ont ete prelevees sur les fonds votes pour encouragement a I'instruction primaire. Elle est mentionn^e dans le tableau annexe au rapport que j'ai eu I'honrieur de presenter k V6tre Majesty sur I'emploi de ces fonds pendant I'annee 1832, et je dois ajouter qu'elle a ete remarqueq^par la commission de la chambre des deputes charg6e de I'examen de la loi de finances de 1833. Quant aux livres destines a I'instruction secondaire, il est d'usage qu'ils subissent un examen severe et consciencieux avant qxie le conseil royal en autorise I'emploi dans nos colleges. Je ne crois pas qu'il soit besoin d'insister sur I'importance et la n6cessite de ces examens prealables. Ne fut-ce que pour s'assurer de la correction des textes, du m6rite et de la convenance des commentaires, TUniversite ne saurait renoncer a cette surveillance ; elle lui est prescrite par le principe meme sur lequel repose notre syst^me d'instruction publique. Or, le nombre des ouvrages soumis annueliement k I'approbation du conseil royal est tellement considerable que les membres de ce conseil essayeraient vainement d'en faire seuls I'examen detains. Une grande partie de ce travail preparatoire est done confiee k des fonctionna;ires du corps enseignant, dont le rapport ^crit est soumis k la discussion du conseil. Jusqu'ei, present les indemnites qu'il est indispensable de donner k ces examinateurs avaient ete prelev6es sur les fonds afferents a I'article 9 du budget de I'Universite. En proposant de voter un fonds special pour ces indemnites, je ne cr^e pas un credit nouveau ; je regularise une depense. II en est de mSme relativement k la commission d'examfin des livres 6iementaires, puisque les sommes, qui lui seront desormais allouees nominativement, seront par cela m^me res- titu6es au fonds destine k I'instruction primaire, d'oii elles sont distraites aujourd'hui. La necessite d'examiner les livres eiementaires ne peut pas plus etre contestee, ce me semble, que I'utilite de controler les ouvrages classiques ; il ne reste done, pour achever de justifier aux yeux de Votre Majesty I'allocation que je reclame, qu'a donner une id6e du zMe et de I'activite dont a fait preuve la commission d'examen. Depuis moins de deux ans qu'elle est institute, elle a dejk instruit les demandes relatives a plus de 1,200 ouvrages de toute esp^ce, et la loi du 28 Juin rendra ses travaux encore bien plus etendus et pressants. Chapitre III. — Administration Academique et Departementale. Art. 22. — Frais de Bureau des Recteurs. Somme allouee pour 1 834 Somme demandee pour 1835 Augmentation - Francs. 106,500 1 19,900 13,400 En proposant de fixer k iig.ooo francs le credit destine aux frais de bureau des recteurs, je ne fais que retablir lechiffre de cet article tel qu'il avait ete constamment vote jusqu'en 1832. A cette epoque les chambres crurent devoir en retrancher une somme de 44,000 francs.. Reduit £l 75,900 francs, ce credit devint d'autant plus insuffisant qu'on avait, en meme temps, demande au gouvernement d'imprimer k I'instruction primaire une impulsion nouvelle sur tous les points du territoire. De justes reclamations ne tard^rent pas k is'elever, et le credit fut porte a 106,500 francs dans les deux budgets de 1833 et 1834. Mais SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 635 Mais il ^tait facile de prevoir que cette augmentation elle-meme deviendrait insuffisante. Appendix No. 32. Les details que j'ai present^s a Votre Majest6, pour lui faire appr6cier raccroissement de __! travail qui a pes6 depuis un an sur les employes de mon ministfere, doivent lui fournir en Communications m^me temps la mesure de Taugmentation que les recteurs'ont eu ^supporter dans leurs frais respecting Literary de bureau. Non seulement leur correspondance avec le ministre a 6te deux fois plus active Institutions or Li- que par le passe, mais I'impulsion qui leur a et6 donnee, il a fallu qu'ils la communiquassent braries in Foreign autour d'eux et au-dessous d'eux. Countries. L'ex^cution de la loi du 28 Juin les oblige k se mettre en relation fr^quente avec les ■" — maires des communes de leur ressort, c'est-^-dire avec 1,500 maires environ, car tel est a ^°* 1'I'ance. peu pr^s le terme moyen pour chacun d'eux. Comment suffire k un tel redoublement ~" d'activite avec les ressources born^es que la loi de finances mettait a leur disposition ? De tous cotes j'ai recu des reclamations; je les ai examinees avec soin, et je me suis con- vaincu que presque toutes etaient fondees. Les relev6s que je me suis fait adresser par les recteurs etablissent que le nombre des decisions, rapports et dep^ches de toute nature, eman^s des vingt-six academies, qui 6tait en 1832 de 76,622, a6te en 1833 de plus de 120,000. Dans ce calcul ne sont pas compris les envois de livres pour les ecoles primaires, qui ont aussi occasionne une augmentation considerable de travail. Puisque I'exp^rience me d^montre ainsi que les recteurs ne peu vent, avec les sommes allouees pour 1834, donner a leurs bureaux I'activite que je dois exiger d'eux, il devient indispensable de leur accorder un supplement de credit. En fixant ce supplement k 13,400 francs, c'est-^-dire en' r^tablissant le credit tel qu'il etait avant 1382 c'est, tout au plus si j'ose me promettre qu'il puisse etie suflSsant. Aet. 25. — Inspecteurs des Ecoles Primaifes. Somme demand ee pour 1835 ------- 140,000 francs. Art. 26. — Frais de Tournee des Inspecteurs. Somme demandee pour 1835 - - - - - - - 100,000 francs. Je r6unis ces deux articles parce que I'un est la consequence de I'autre. Tous deux se rapporteht k une institution enti^rement nouvelle, dont je propose a Votre Majesty et aux chambres d'autoriser I'etablissement. Je ne me suis d6cide k faire figurer cette pro- position au budget qu'aprfes m'etre assur6 par experience de son utilite, et apres avoir acquis I'intime conviction que, de tous les moyens de propager, d'entretenir, de per- fectionner I'instruction primaire en France, il n'en est pas de plus efBcace, et par con- sequent, de plus n6cessaire. Les commissions cles chambres ont plus d'une fois exprime, par I'organe de leurs rap- porteurs, le vceu que les ecoles publiques fussent inspectees plus souvent, avec plus de soin, d'un mani^re plus complete et plus approfondie. En effet, partout o^ il y a enseigne- ment et etudes, I'inspection est un element de vie et de progr^s. Lorsqu'ils n'attendent ni blS,me, ni louange, lorsque I'oeil de leurs superieurs ne pent pas k tout moment penetrer jusqii'^ eux, les maitres insouciants s'endorment en securite, les plus zeies se ralentissent. Si les inspections sont utiles pour toutes les ecoles en general, on peut dire que, pour les ecoles primaires, elles sont d'une absolue necessite. Ces ecoles ont ete si longtemps aban- donnees, sans secours et sans direction, que tout est ^ creer, pour ainsi dire, ou du moins tout est k organiser. Et comment savoir o^ est le mal, comment trouver le remade, si I'ad- ministration superieure n'etablit pas, entre elle et toutes les ecoles de France, une communi- cation reguliSre, si elle ne s'assure pas le moyen d'interroger des temoiiis intelligents et sinc^res? Deji j'ai pu eprouver combien les inspections sont utiles. Au moment oii la loi du 28 Juin allait etre mise k execution, j'ai cru que je devais constater exactenient dans quel etat elle avait trouve I'enseignement primaire en France, afin de mieux apprfecier dans la suite les efFets qu'elle aurait produits. J'ai done rev^tu du caract^re d'inspecteurs tem- poraires quatre cents personnes, auxquelles j'ai distribue toutes les communes du royaume, et qui m'ont rapporte des renseignements precis, multiplies, authentiques, sur toutes les ecoles existantes, et sur la possibilite- d'en eiever dans toutes les cdmmunes oii il n'en existe pas. Ce recensement general, execute pour la premiere fois, et dont je rendrai un compte special k V6tre Majeste, a reveie une masse immense de faits, qui serviront de guide k I'administration dans tout ce qui lui reste encore k faire executer. Mais cette inspection ne serait qu'une vaine operation de statistique, si elle n'etait faite qu'une fois et comme par hasard. C'est la frequence et la periodicite des examens qui en fait refficacite. J'ai done pense qu'il fallait etablir, dans chaque departement, un inspecteur permanent charge de visiter frequemment toutes les ecoles primaires du departement. Get inspecteur ne s'assurera pas seulement du zele et de I'aptitude desinstituteurs, du nom- bre et de I'assiduite des eifeves; il visitera aussi les communes qui manquent d'ecoles, s'informera des causes qui ont empSche I'instruction d'y penetrer, et des moyens qui pour- raient etre employes pour triompher de I'indifference des habitants; il recherchera en outre les circonstances qui pourraient rendre necessaire la reunion de communes s6parees ou la separation de communes reunies ; en un mot, sa mission sera d'adresser au recteur et au prefet de continuels rapports sur I'etat du materiel et du personnel de toutes les ecoles Boumises k leur autorite, et sur les dispositions de la population dans les diverses communes du departement. Ces rapports, transmis k ^administration centrale, seront autant de documents positifs qui rendront son action k la fois plus prompte, plus edairee et plus presente. 479. 3Y4 • Beaucoup 536 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32, Beaucoup de conseils generaux de departement ont formellement reclame cette institu- tion ; quelt|ues-1ins ont ofFert de concourir aux frais qu'elle dqvait entrainer. J'ai cherche h ^valuer ces frais approximativement ; je crois que le traitement des inspec- tetirs de rinstruction primaire doit ^tre fixe k 2,000 francs terme moyen. En ne demandatit que 140,000 francs, je ne m'assure done la possibilite de creer que soixante-dix inspecteurs seulement; mais je pourrai me borner h ce nombre, parce que dans quelques departements je me propose d'employer pour cet objet les inspecteurs d'academie qui y resident. Enfin je demande, pour les frais de tourn^e de tousles inspecteurs, une somme de 100,000 francs. Leur traitenient sera trop modique pour qu'on puisse exiger d'eux qu'ils se d^pla- cent gratttitement. Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 18. France. Chapitre IV. — Instruction Supeeieure. Art. 2'j.~-Faculth de Droit. ' - Francs. 620,550 645.550 Augmentation - - - - 25,000 Somme allouee pour 1 834 Somme demandee pour 1835 On se plaint depuis longfcetnps, et avec raison, que I'enseignement du droit est incomplet dans toutes les ecoles. Plusieurs facultes reclament des chaires de droit administratif et de droit criminel ; il n'en est pas une oii soit enseigne n6tre droit constitutionnel Frangais, ancien et moderne. Depuis I'epoque de leur reorganisation, c'est-S.-dire depuis trente ans et plus, les ecoles de droit n'ont re§u que des ameliorations de detail, dont a peine on aper- ^oit les traces. A vrai dire, I'enseignement y est toujours le m^me. Et cependant k com- bien de Ijesoins nouveaux ne devraient-elles pas pourvoir ? Le gouvemement sous lequel nous vivons aujourd'hui appele tant de citoyens k prendre part aux affaires de I'etat, k celles du departement et de la commune, qu'on ne saurait trop desirer que la partie de n6tre l(egisla%ion qui se rattache k I'exercice des droits politiques, et aux attributions des divers pouvoirs, soit expliqnee et commentee, au moins dans nos principales ecoles. De tels cours, faits par des hommes d^experience et d'une haute taison, pourraient devenir d'un grand in- terest social, en substituant aux erreurs de rignorance, et aux dangers des notions super- ficielles et tem^raires, les etudes fortes et positives. Je crois done qu'il est urgent de faire quelques essais en ce genre. Je u'ai pas besoin de dire k Votre Majeste que la somme de 25,000 francs, que je demande, ne suffirapas pour accomplir, dans toutes les facultes, les ameliorations que Ton reclame. Je ne pourrai faire que des experiences partielles ; mais si le succ^s repond k mon attente, j'ose croire que plus tard il me deviendra facile d'obtenir de plus grands sacrifices. Art. 29. — Facultes de Theologie, des Sciences et des Lettres. Personnel : Sommes allouees pour 1 834 Somraes demandees pour .1835 Augmentation Francs. 495,020 520,000 24,980 Art. "^"^.-^ Facultes de Theologie, des Sciences et des Lettres. Materiel : Sommes allouees pour 1834 ------- Sommes demandees pour 1835 -------, Augmentation - Francs. 32,006 35,006 3.000 Ce que j'ai dit des facultes de droit s'applique en partie aux facultes de theologie, des sciences et des lettres. Plusieurs sont a creer ; d'autres doivent ^tre compl6tees. Depuis longtemps la ville de Lyon soUicitait la creation d'une facult6 des sciences. L'importance et les developpements de son industrie justifient la reclamation. . EUe a 6t6 accueillie favorablement par Votre Majeste ; et par ordonnance du 9 Decembre dernier une huitieme faculte des sciences a et6 etablie k .Lyon. Plusieurs facultes de theologie, entre autres celle d'Aix, ne comptent qu'un seul professeur. D'autres en comptent deux, et cependant la presence de trois professeiurs est necessaire pour la collation des grades. ^ Enfin il est aussi quelques facultes, soit des sciences soit des lettres, oii Ton regrette la vacance de chaires dont Tutilit^ est reconnue. dont le besoin sera le plus urgent. Art. 30. SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 337 Akt. 30.— iZemwes sur les Droits d' Inscriptions, d'Examens et de Dipl6me. Somme demandee pour 1835 - 30,000 francs. Ce credit n'est pas destin6 h solder une augmentation de depenses, mais seulement ^ compenser une diminution de recettes. Le budget de I'Universit^ n'en faisait pas mention, parce que ce budget reglait k la fois les recettes et les depenses ; il etait inutile de porter en depense les abandons que I'Universite pouvait dans certains cas juger a propos de faire k ses debiteurs ; on se contentait de diminuer d'autant revaluation des recettes en nln- scrivant que le chiflFre des produits i;6ellement pergus. Mais maintenant que la perception des revenus et des impots de I'Universite va s'operer par les agents du tr^sor, il devient n^cessaire d'adopter un nouveau mode de comptabilite. D'un cote, les agents du tr^sor devront percevoir les imp6ts universitaires dans leur integrite; de I'autre, I'Universite pourra, jusqu'^ concurrence d'une certaine somme, accorder, pour des~ motifs determines, a quelques redevables I'exemption des taxes que les agents du tr6sor auront reclamees d'eux. En fixant h 30,000 francs les reductions que I'Universite sera libre d'operer ainsi sur les recettes provenant des droits d'inscriptions, d'examens et de diplome, per§us dans les diverses facultes, j'ai pris pour base la moyenne des remises faites jusqu'ici chaque annee sur les m^mes droits. Ainsi I'apparition de ce credit de 30,000 francs au budget n'a de nouveau que I'expression du fait qu'elle constate : quant au fait lui-m6me, il est aussi ancien que I'existence m^me de I'Universite. Je n'aurai pas besoin, je crois, de justifier I'exerciee de ce droit protecteur. Combien de jeunes gens sans fortune, admis gratuitement dans les colleges, verraient leur avenir perdu, si, aprfes, s'^tre distingues dans leurs premieres eti^des, ils ne. pouvaient prendre leurs grades faute de pouvoir payer les droits ! En leur accordant la remise, I'^tat fait un acte de justice aussi bien que de liberalite: et d'ailleurs il se presente des circonstances oil Ton doit se feliciter que le gouvernement ait a sa disposition un moyen de recompenser de nobles devouements. A I'epoque de I'invasion du chol6ra dans Paris, l'autorit6 fit un appel au zMe des Aleves de la faculte de medecine. Get appel fut entendu, et uu grand nombre d'etudiants se mirent h la disposition des comit6s de salubrite et de secours ; ils rendirent d'importants services. L'Universit6 fut heureuse de pouvoir contribuer pour sa part au t6moignage de reconnaissance qui leur 6tait du. EUe decida que la remise des divers droits universitaires serait accord^e aux 61^ves de la faculte de medecine qui s'etaient rendus utiles dans ces graves et douloureuses circonstances. Ainsi pour bien des motifs, ce droit de remise est precieux et tut^laire. Jamais assure- ment on ne concevra la pensee d'en depouiller I'Universite, puisque ce serait lui interdire le moyen de reparer les injustices de la fortune et de recompenser de louables actions. Je n'insiste pas davantage sur cet article, qui ne pent fetre considere, je le repute, que cc une pure formalite financi^re. Appendix, No. 312. 'I Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries, i8. Fkance. comme Chapitek V. — Instruction Secondaike. Akt. 36. — Depenses fixes des Colleges Roy aux. Somme allouee pour 1834 Somme demandee pour 1835 Augmentation Jrancs. 920,500 939.1001 18,600 Le college communal du Puy a ete erige en college royal par une ordonnance du 16 Mai 1830 J, mais il ne devait ^tre organise que lorsque' la ville aurait fait disposer convenable- ment de local, et I'aurait garni du mobilier n^cessaire. Ces conditions ayant ete remplies, Torganisation ne pent plus ^tre diffferee, et le nouveau college royal du Puy a droit, comme les autres colleges royaux de troisi^me classe, k une subvention de 18,600 francs pour ses depenses fixes, c'est-a-dire pour les traitements des fonctionnaires et professeurs. Art. 39. — Encouragements aux Colleges Communaux. Somme demandee pour 1 835 150,000 francs. Au moment ou le syst^me recemment adopte pour la propagation et I'amelioration de I'instruction primaire commence k porter ses fruits, oil les communes rivalisent presque paf- tout de z^lej excit^es par I'espoir d'obtenir du gouvernement des encouragements piopor- tionnes aux sacrifices qu'elles s'imposont, j'ai cru qu'il importait d'appliquer ce syst^me d'encouragement et d'^mulation k des etablissements qui n'ont jamais pris part, jusqu'a ce jour, aux liberalit^s de I'ad ministration centrale, 'et dont I'existence precaire a cependant besoin d'etre vivifiee par Taction du gouvernement ; je veux parler des colleges com- munaux, Ces colleges sont classes parmi les ^tabliiseraents universitaires : c'est radministration de I'Universite qui nomme les principaux , et les regents: c'est elle qui les censure et les r^voque, Mais k c6te de cette action de discipline et de. surveillance' aucun moyen d'en- 479. 32 « couragement. 538 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix, No. 32. couragement. Le temps est venu de faire participer las colleges communaux au mouve- ment general impi'im6 h. I'instruction publique, d'y rendre I'enseignement eI la fois plus varie et plus solide, et de les faire entrer, concurremment avec les colleges rcyaux, dans une voie sure et constante de progr^s. En vain le gouvernement ferait appel au zh\e des communes ; s'il ne prend pas I'initiative, s'il ne donne pas lui-m6me rexfemple de I'activit^ et de la lib6ralite, son appel ne sera pas entendu. Voiltl pourquoi je reclame un credit de 150,000 francs destin^ a former un fonds commun de secours et d'encouragement en faveur des col- leges communaux. II faut souhaiter que ce fonds devienne insuiEsant; car ce serait la preuve que les communes s'associeraient k la pensee du gouvernement et provoqueraient de sa part de nouveaux sacrifices en s'imposant elles-m^mes. Je dois ajouter. Sire, que I'emploi de ce credit de 150,000 francs sera subordonn^ au vote de mesures legislatives que j'aurai I'honneur de soumettre k Votre Majesty, et dont I'objet sera de modifier, h certains egards, notre syst^me d'instruction secondaire, et sp^cialement de regler I'organisation et le regime des colleges communaux. Cammunications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 18. France. Aet. 40.' — Remises sur la Retribution et le Droit Annuel. Somme demandee pour 1835 - 85,000 francs. Tout ce que j'ai dit au sujet de I'article 30 s'applique a celui-ci. Ce credit n'est done aussi qu'uiie fiction necessaire pour regulariser leg operations de la comptabilite du tresor royal dans ses rapports avec celle de I'administration de I'instruction publique. Ce n'est point une depense nouvelle, c'est une formule pour exprimer un abandon de revenus, dont I'usage est depuis longtemps consacre. Les deux impots dont I'Universite conserve ici le droit d'accorder quelquefois la remis.e, sont connus, I'un sous le nom de " retribution universitaire," et I'autre sous celui de " droit annuel." La " retribution universitaire" consiste dans le vingtieme du prix de la pension payee dans toutes les maisons d'education secondaire, et elle atteint ainsi les colleges royaux et communaux, et les institutions et pensions particuli^res. Quant au " droit annuel," c'est une sorte de patente a laquelle sont assujettis les chefs d'institution et les maitres de pension. Or, il n'est pas rare que les pi'oprietaires de ces etablissements prives tombent en des arrerages considerables qu'ii leur est difficile de payer. Souvent leur conduite a ete regu^ li^re, leur maison a et6 dirigee avec ordre et economic,- mais des circonstances mal- heureuses, qu'il n'etait pas en leur pouvoir de pr6venir, ont am'ene la decadence ou la ruine de I'etablissement; quelquefois ils ne sont coupables que d'avoir ose soutenir une concur- rence t^meraire dont le public a profite ; il est juste que I'administration vienne a leur secours : elle ne doit pas rester inflexible en presence d'un debiteur malheureux et de bonne foi. De la I'usage de ces remises sur la retribution et le droit annuel, faveurs qui ne compen- sent jamais les pertes essuyees par ceux qui les obtiennent, et que I'tjniversite a soin de n'accorder que dans une sage mesure et apr^s de sev^res enqultes ; car ce n'est qu'a ce prix qu'elles peuvent produire de salutaires efFets. Chapitre. VI. — Instruction Primaike. Art. 41j^ — Encouragements a I'instruction Primaire. Somme allouee pour 1834 - - -- Somme demandee pour ] 835 -..-.-__ Augmentation - - _ En execution de I'article 13 de la loi du 28 Juin 1833, des centimes addi- tionels doivent ^tre votes par les conseils gen^raux pour les depenses de I'in- struction primaire. Le produit de ces centimes est evalue -----__ L'augmentation demandee n'est done reellement que de - Francs. 1,567,530 4,600,000 3,032,450 3,000,000 32,450 Je ne m'arr^terai point sur ce chapitre. Je dois a Votre Majest6 et aux chambres, sur la mise a execution de la loi du 28 Juin, et siir tout ce qui concerne I'instr&ction primaire , aux yeux de tous, la nicessite non-seulement de contmuer pour 1835 les allocations vetoes pour 1833 et 1834 mais d'allouer en outre la faible augmentation de credit que je propose. Chapitke VII. — Etablissements Scientifiques et Litt^raires. J'arrive a la seconde partie du budget de mon departement, c'est-^-dire k celle qui com- prend, d'une part, nos grands Etablissements scientifiques et litteraires; de I'autre, les en- couragements et les secours accordes par le gouvernement aux sciences et aux lettres. On chercherait vainement k se le dissimuler : quels que soient I'eclat et la prosperitie dont brillent ces etablissements que I'Europe nous envie, leurs besoins sont considerables • ils soufFrent SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 539 souffrent et langmssent, faute de secours sufBsants ; encore quelques annees de negligence, Appendix, No. 32 et le mal qui les travaille- se trahira : ils ne pourjont plus cacher leur impuissance I se sou- tenir au niveau de leur destination et de leur renommee. Communications II est temps que le gouvernement reprenne, a leur ^gard, son role de protection active et respecting Literary prevoyante ; il est temps qu'il repare les oublis, qu'il pourvoie aux besoins essentiels. Institutions or Li- Toutefois, je me hate de le dire, parmi ces etablissemeAts, il en est qui n'ont rien h, branesm Foreign reclamer. Ainsi, I'un des plus importants et le plus ancien de tous, le college de France, ^"""^ries. est parvenu, grace h. de ri6cents accroissements, a rendre son enseignement a peu pr^s aussi , o Z complet qu'on peut le d^sirer. II conipte aujourd'hui vingt-quatve chaires ; iongtemps il ' n'en a eu que douze. D'un autre cote, le local qu'il occupe sera prochainement repare et mieux approprie ^ I'importance de I'^tablissement. Le college de France n'a done qu'a demander le maintien du credit qui lui est alloue. II en est & peu pr^s de mSme de I'lnstitut. Les sommes considerables que lui a l^guees M. de Monthyon lui permettent de pourvoir m^me avec munificence a ces fondations de prix qui provoquent I'activite et I'emulation du monde savant. Une grande amelioration, ou plutot une reparation aussi juste qu'utile, devait seule rendre necessaire une augmentation de credit ; je veux parler du retablissement de I'academie des sciences morales et politiques. Les budgets de 1833 et 1834 ont pourvu a ce surcroit de depenses ; il ne restait done pour 1835 aucun fonds nouveau a reclamer. Toutefois, et dans I'inter^t de I'academie des inscriptions et belles-lettres, j'ai cru devoir porter a 106,500 francs, au lieu de 10-2,500 francs, la somme totale du credit afFecte a cette academic. J'esp^re que V6tre Majeste approuvera le motif qui m'a fait admettre cette leg^re augmen- tation de 4,000 francs. L'Acad6mie des Inscriptions et Belles-lettres poursuit depuis Iongtemps la publication de trois recueils importants pour I'histoire etpour la litterature. Ces recueils sont : la " Collec- tion des Historiens de France," celle des " Ordonnances des Roisde la troisifeme race," et les " Notices et Extraits des Manuscrits de la Bibliotheque du Roi." Pour faire face aux frais de ces publications, I'academie dispose d'un credit de 12,000 francs. Si jusqu'a present cette somme a 6te suffisante, c'est qu'on' a ralenti I'impression toutes les fois que le credit allait ^tre epnise. De la des retards qui doivent donner lieu a de justes regrets. Mais ce n'est pas mSme pour obvier k ces retards que I'academie reclame ce nouveau fonds ; elle est appel^e k publier deux autres recueils non moins importants ; I'un est la "Table des Chartes," I'autre le " Recueildes Historiens des Croisades, tant orientaux qu'occidentaux." Pour dresser la " Table des Chartes," I'academie a la, ressource d'un credit annuel de 3,000 francs, preleve sur le fonds destine aux encouragements. Mais pour la " Collection des Historiens des ' Croisades," aucun fonds ne lui est encore accorde. « Un credit de 4,000 francs, paraissant suffisant pour entreprendre ce beau travail, depuis Iongtemps reclame par tous les amis de notre histoire nationale, j'ai cru qu'il ne pouvait ^tre refuse. Enfin le chapitre des d6penses communes aux cinq academies m'a paru r6clamer aussi une legfere augmentation. Les travaux du secretariat etant devenus plus considerables de- puis le retablissement de I'acadfemie des sciences morales et politiques, il a fallu adjoindre quelques employes k ceux qui etaient dej^ surcharges d'occupation. Lfe chauffage de la nouvelle salle par la vapeur doit occasioner aussi quelques depenses extraordinaires que j'ai du prevoir. En resume, le chiffre total du credit de I'lnstitut se trouve done porte de 494,000 francs k 503,000 francs. ' Le bureau des longitudes, grfi.ce a I'allocation dont il jouit depuis quelques annees, a pu renouveler presque tous ses instruments astronomiques, et n'a besoin, quant a present, d'aucune augmentation. II en est autrement du Museum d'Histoire Naturelle; l^lesrichesses scientifiques abon- dent, les collections s'accroissent chaque jour; mais, faute d'un personnel assez nombreux pour mettre k jour les classifications, faute de ressources sufBsantes pour preparer et dis- poser une telle multitude d'objets, ces tresors sont k la veille de se deteriorer, de se perdre, et ceux que .I'on conserve sont menaces d'une confusion et d'un desordre qui equivau- draient a leur perte. Les administrateurs de ce magnifique etablissement m'ont expose, dans un rapport lumineux et plein de faits, cette situation fficheuse contre laquelle ils s'efForcent en vain de lutter. Je n'entrerai point ici dans tous les details qu'ils ont du me reveler ; il me sufEra de dire, pour donner une idee du prodigieux accroissement de ces collections, que les etats ou inventaires de I'annee 1833, compares a ceux de 1832, donnent une difference en plus, savoir; de 480 individus pour les mammif^res et oiseaux, 1,150 pour les reptiles et poissons, 25,000 pour les insectes et crustacees, 5,000 pour les mollusques et zoophytes ; ce qui fait en tout 31,630 individus nouveaux dont se sont accrues ces diverses collections, qui I'annee dernifere ne s'^levaient qu'a un totkl de 121,000 individus. D'un autre cote, I'herbier, qui, dans le dernier inventaire, se oomposait de 300,000 plantes s^ches, s'est enrichi d'environ 45,000 k 50,000 pliantes nouvelles qui ont ete envoyfees par divers voyageurs ou dessechees dans le jardin. Ailisi, en une seule annee, le M useum a vu ses richesses s'augmenter d'un sixi^me ou meme d'un quart en sus, et ses ressources de tout genre sont restees les mSmes. On doit sentir tout ce qu'une pareille situation a de menagant, et combien il est urgent d'y mettre un terme. Les administrateurs du Museum, en me faisant part de leurs alarmes et en m'exposant I'impossibilite ok ils se trouvaient de pourvoir a tant de besoins imprevus,^ m'ont presente revaluation des sommes necessaires pour mettre I'etablissement dans un etat prosp^re, et 479. 3 z 2 . lui 540 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Communications respecting Literary Institutions or Li- braries in Foreign Countries. 18. France. Appendix, No. 32. lui pevmettre de tirer parti de ses nouveiles richesses. lis demandent pour le personnel une augmentation de 15,800 francs, et pour le materiel de 45,200 francs ; total, 61,000 francs. Je me borne a reclamer pour 1835 un supplement de credit de 2 0,000 .francs, bien convaincu qu'il peut a peine suffire pour ce qui est strictement nfecessaire. J'ai recueilli, sur I'^tat et les besoins de toutes les Biblioth^ques Royales, des renseigne- ments analogues. Plusieurs de ces 6tablissements, savoir, la Biblioth^que Mazarine, la Bibliotheque Sainte-Genevieve et celle de I'Arsenal, ne figurent cependant au budget de 1835 que pour les memes sommes que dans les budgets precedents. Je ne puis dissimuler h Votre Majeste qu'une nouvelle allocation eiit 6te pour elles de la plus grande utilite, puisqu'avec' les credits actuels, tout moyen d'accroissement leur est interdit,' et que c'est a grand'peine s'il leur est possible de conserver les livres existants, et de completer ceux qui ont ete depareill^s par un long usage ou de coupables soustractions ; mais je me propose de faire, de ces trois etablissements et de I'organization qu'il conviendrait deleur donner, I'objet d'un rapport particulier a Votre Majeste, et j'ai cru devoir ajourner jusqu'^l cette epoque toute demande d'augmentation a leur profit. Quant a la Bibliotheque Royale proprement dite, I'augmentatiou de credit que je reclame ne doit ^tre consideree que comme un leger a-compte sur les allocations qu'il deviendra proohainement indispensable de lui accorder; je" dis indispensable, car je ne suppose pas n o (4 in S ^; o w en e5 CO ai ■a> o" oo to l« r- CO CO cT oo CO ■2 O « O o '-' O -H o as a. 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O Q <-^ o o o c, o o o o C] o O! g to -* "5 Cl ^ w S S, lU 3 JO 1:5 .2 ij ei 3 g a.tg 'a 3 ^^ 'S m -a 3 1 S aS : ^ m c i oj'S.g 3 b " 3 i, a " '" r 3 3 » ; X iQ3 u u 03- 03 US- (A »!■ a. c5 § 3 ~ •^ en o 2 MB M -O e* m !- St ?; CO-" f2 NQJ 3 C T3 a o> tH T-l « tH 1-5 ^ ■'« ^ Ml) ;3 a- B^ ^ 03 to '--'^ ?, 03 03 s s W3 en 00 a w a o H a t, o ►J > o 03 ; :3^ ^OT i 3«g5 I ^ eg a> _ ? ^ CO T3 ^ni t« CO v« -3 C CO « I « " 63 — ' » 2 03 CO to K P 3 •s^pijay o o o co" 1^ o o o o o o o o o ■* ^ o o" o o o o o o^ 6'« a bc h^ o en O 03 \a3 73 j- 03 Pi o H o SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 559 S . o a O C8 {fl > g ° S.t^ — « o o Q a a J § o 1^ fel s >>R 0,0 o o g o o o o OS e»^ o" ■ a. ^ ?^ a o Sd^S 3 ^ o. :3 1 ?i 3 r a OS a o CU CU tsi , a. , O GQ -a o ■ CU O' •B to"' S . •"til 13 Ho C CO '3 O I 33 ti ^ 'a H a a>a 5 CD C Ml) as 2 => c OS ea jj w tn ^ ' § o . CO S a a ' ,a s ' «1 CD g S 4-a C3 p •w I 5 C cr" to tu f,a S- . 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S'C* V CU o o o 50 2-0 yS -a^ *j .2 u 3 S. lU 4J 1 > S-is CS ^ o 3 a 2 a. 2 CU tf ■TS 3 .5 " ^ to CD CO >o ■o ■* CO CO th b o z o C-) fi 1 p o Pk M m c en CO « to I2i t> IZ H a a t> 3 O H X2 O w M CO ^« m e O a CU C Q a ^ g X s « ti 3 5 «T3 ooo - - 1823 - - - - 8,766 - - 3.000 - - 1824 - - - - 4,847 - - 3.000 - - 1825 - - - - 15,416 - - 3.000 - - 1826 - - - - 13,992 - - 3,000 - - 1827!^ Jpon account of es- \ 9.877 - - J 3,000 - - 3.000 - - timated expenditure 3,000 - - 1828 - - - - 16,649 - - 3,000 - — 1829 - - - - 19.899 - - 8,000 - - 1830 -, - - « 16,143 - - 3,000 - - 1831 - . - - - 14,450 - - 8,000 - - 1832 - - - - 16,922 - - 3,400 - - 1833 - - - - 16,844 - - 7.500 - - 1834 - - - _ 17,017 - - 3,872 4 8 1835 - - _ _ 17,796 -• - 5.556 5 to Total - £. 6,790 - 443,338 15 1 7.639 17 2 * Reserved fund for future expenses,' vested in Three per Cent. Consols, being portion of a sum of 300,000 I. raised by lottery. ^ SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 569 For Buildings. 1753 1823 1824 1825 1826 1827 1828 1829 1830 £. 5. d. * 247,000 - ~ 1831 40,000 - - 1832 40,000 - - 1833 40,000 - - 1834 25,000 - - 1835 12,000 - - 43.600 - - 13,000 - - . 10,000 - - £. 12,000 10,000 24,000 8,000 16,000 s. d. Appendix, No. 33. Statement of Money Votes. Total For Purchase of Collections. £. 540,600 - - SirH. Sloane 1753 Harleian _----/----- 1753 Hamilton Vases ---------1 772 Townleian Collection of Statues ------ 1805 Ditto - - - ditto - 1814 Lansdowne Collection of MSS. - - - - - - 1807 Mr, Greville's Collection of Minerals - - - - 1810 Hargrave Library __-__--- 1813 Dr. Baraey's Library - - - - - - - - 1818 The Elgin Marbles 1816 Phigalian Marbles - - - - - - - - 1815 Mr. Riche's MSS. 1825 Mr. Sams's Egyptian Antiquities ------ 1834 Mr. Hawkins's Fossils - - - - -,- - - 1834 £. Miscellaneous Votes : iHnproving the collection of British Books Ditto ----- ditto Ditto ----- ditto Ditto ditto - Printing the Codex Alexandrinus - pitto - - - - ditto - - The Natural IJistory Collection £. 20,000 10,000 8,410 20,000 8,200 4.925 13,727 8,000 13,500 35,000 15,000 7,500 2,500 5 - 168,072 5 £. s. d. 1812 1,000 - - 1813 1,000 - - 1814 1,000 — - 1815 1,000 - - 1814 2,000 — - 1815 2,000 - - 1 1815 250 - — 8,250 - - £. 176,322 5 - ABSTRACT : Annual Grants ------ For Buildings - - - - - Collections purchased ; Miscellaneous Votes - Total - - £. £. s. d. 443.338 15 1 540,600 - - 176,322 5 - 1,160,261 - 1 • Raised by Lottery, under 26 Geo. 2, c. 26 - - - - - - - Carried to Account, under Mr. Edwards's will, for preservation of Cottoniar Library --.-....----- Subject to the following deductions : Sir H. Sloane's Collection Harleian - - ditto - . - Reserved fund for future expenses - £. 20,000 10,000 - 30,000 Balance to be used for purposes connected with Buildings, Fittings, &c.\ for Museum - .--,-...-j £. s. d. 300,000 - - 7,000 - - 307,000 60,Q00 247,000 - - Subject to the deductions incident to the regulations of the Act. The exact amount cannot be ascer- tained bv reference to Acts or Votes of the Hoiise of Commons. 479- 4 D 670 APPENDIX TO REPORT FROM THE Appendix^o. 34. Appendix, No. 34. Abstract and List of Acts relating to the British Museum. ABSTRACT and LIST of ACTS relating to the British Museum. 26 Geo. 2, c. 22. AN ACT for the Purchase of the Museum or Collection of Sir Hans Sloane and of .the Harleian Collection of Manuscripts, and for providing one general repository for the better reception and more convenient use of the said Collections, and of the Cottonian Library, and of the additions thereto : Sec. 1 . Reciting Will of Sir Hans Sloane ; 20,000 I. to be paid to the executors of Sir Hans Sloane for his Museum. •2. Reciting Act of 12 & 13 Will. 3,, c. 7, respecting the Cottonian Library; Will of Arthur Edwards, Esq. ; the, legacy of 7,000 I. on the decease of Elizabeth Milles, to be applied by the Trustees, towards providing a proper repository for the Cottonian Library. 3. £. 10,000 to be paid to the Trustees of the Earl and Countess of Oxford, for the Harleian Manuscripts. 4. Appointment of Trustees ; election of new Trustees in the room of such as die. 5. Nomination of a Trustee, vacant by the death of Lord Cadogan or Hans Stanley. 6. Nomination of a Trustee, vacant by the death of Samuel Burroughs or Thomas Hart. 7. Nomination of a Trustee, vacant by the death of William Duke of Portland or Edward Earl of Oxford. 8. Trustees so nominated to be invested with the same powers as the original Trustees. 9. A general repository to be provided for the reception of Sloane's Museumt, the Cottonian Library, Harleian Manuscripts, and Edwards's additions. 10. The Museum to be kept entire. 1 1. The Harleian Collection to be an addition to the Cottonian Library. 12. The Museum to remain in the Manor-house till a general repository provided. 13. When the Museum is removed, the Manor-house, &c. to go with the other lands devised by Sir Hans Sloane. 14. Incorporation of Trustees by the name of The Trustees of the British Museum. 15. Trustees may make Statutes and appoint salaries to their officers. 16. Nomination of the Principal Librarian. , 1 7. Nomination of the rest of the officers. 1 8. No officer's place to be supplied by deputy. 1 9. Power to appoint assistant and subjordinate officers. 20. Museum, &e. vested in Trustees. 21. His Majesty may grant to the Trustees any building, &c. for a general repository. 22. Bodies politic and corporate, 8e.c. empowered to dispose of lands, Stc. to the Trustees for such repository. 23. Reservation tp all other persons interested of their rights to the premises. 24. £.300,000 to be raised for the purposes of the Act, and natives or foreigners may contribute thereto. 39. Sum allowed to the managers, receivers, and the person making out certi0cates for the tickets ; residue of the money after payment of the prizes, &c. to be -lodged in the Bank, and to be issued to Trustees' orders. 40. Penalty for selling chances of tickets, &c. or of laying wagers relating to the drawing of tickets ; appUcation of the forfeiture. 41. Penalty of keeping an office or pubHshing any scheme, &c. 4'2., Penalty on persons who shall sell or buy tickets, &,c. after 24 November; ajjplica- tion of the penalties ; persons aggrieved may appeal to the quarter sessions, 43. Penalty of officers taking other fees than what are allowed by this Act, or of otherwise being unfaithful in the discharge of their duties ; application of the forfeiture. ^^-.__„, 44-. If SELECT COMMITTEE ON BRITISH MUSEUM. 571 44. If the whole number of tickets not subscribed for, the Directors to apportion Appendix, No. 34. two-thirds of the moliey contributed in prizes, and to give public notice, and sach number only of tickets to be drawn as shall be subscribed for. Abstract and List .45. Within 40 days after drawing the lottery the prize tickets to be exchanged for thefii-ftisbMuslum certificates. 46. Receivers to exchange the tickets for certificates ; the rest of the managers dis- charged from attending after the drawing is over. 47. All prize tickets to be brought in and exchanged by 31 December 1754, and no > certificates to be afterwards granted, but the Bank to detain the money and bring it to the account of the Trustees. 48. Application of the monies arising from the Act : £. 20,000 to the executors of Sir HansSloane; 10,000 Z. to the Countess of Oxford. A general repository to be' provided thereout, and other necessary expenses attending the preserving the Museum, &c; 30,000/. to be placed out at interest in the pubhc funds, towards payment of officers' salaries, &c. ; the surplus reserved for the future disposition of Parliament. 49. Surplus may be placed out at interest, to be applied to the uses of the Act. 27 Geo. 2, c. 16. AN ACT for making perpetual several laws for punishment of persons destroying turn- pikes, locks or other works erected by authority of Parliament ; and that all Acts made for erecting Courts of Conscience shall be deemed public Acts; and to empower a certain number of the Trustees of the British Museum to do certain Acts ; and for confirming the Table of Fees to be taken by the clerks, to the Justices of the Peace for the county of Middlesex ; and for giving further time for the payment of duties omitted to be paid for the indentures or coiitracts of clerks and apprentices, and for filing affidavits of the execution of contracts of clerks to attornies and solicitors ; and for preventing persons driving certain carriages from riding upon such carriages : Sec. 3. Reciting Act 26 Geo. 2, c. 22. Election of Trustees, at which the Archbishop of Canterbury, Lewd Chancellor, Lord Keeper and Speaker of the House of Commons, or two of them, shall be present, and all acts done by seven Trustees deemed valid. 7 Geo. 3. c. 18. AN ACT to enable the Trustees of the British Museum to exchange, sell, or dispose of any duplicates of printed books, medals, coins, or other curiosities, and for laying out the money arising by such sale in the purchase of other things that may be wanting, in, or proper for the said Museum : Reciting Act 26 Geo. 2, c. 22, and 27 Geo. 2, c. 16, s. 3. Five or more Trustees ' empowered to order any duplicates of printed books, medals, coins, &c. to be exchanged for manuscripts, &c. or to be sold, and the money laid out in purchasing such as may be wanting or proper. 39 Geo, 3, c. 73. -AN ACT for exempting certain specific legacies which shall be given to bodies corporate or other public bodies, from the payment of duty ; and also the legacy of books and other articles given by the will of the late Rev. Clayton Mordaunt Cracherode to the Ti'ustees of the British Museum : Sec. 1. No legacy of books, &c. bequeathed to any body corporate, &c. to be, pre- served shall be liable to any duty. 2. The legacy of the Rev. C. M. Cracherode to the British Museum of books, &c. shall be exempted from duty. ^ , 45 Geo. 3, c. 127. AN ACT to vest the Townleian Collection of Ancient Sculpture in the Trustees of the British Museum for the use of the Public. 46 Geo. 3, c. 65. AN ACT for granting to His Majesty during the present war, and until the 6th day of April next, after the ratification of a definitive treaty of peace, further additional rates and duties in Great Britain (on the rates and duties on profits) arising from property, pro- fessions, trades and offices, and for repealing an Act passed in the 45th year of His present Majesty for repeahng certain parts of an Act made in the 43d year Of His present Majesty, for granting a contribution on the profits arising from property, professions, trades and ofiices, and to consolidate and render more effectual the provisions for collecting the said duties : Sec. 155. Allowances and exemptions shall be made to the Trustees of .the British Museum, in the same manner as to Charitable Institutions. « 479, 4 D 2 47 Geo. 572 APPENDIX TO REPORT ON BRITISH MUSEUM. Appendix,' No. 34. 47 Geo. 3, c. 36, Sess. 2, Abstract and List ^^ ACT to enable the Trustees of the British Museum to exchange, sell or dispose of Acts leLiting to °^ ^"'^'^ parts of the collections, and under such restrictions as are therein specified : the British Museum. Trustees at a special meeting may order any articles in the British Museum to be ■ exchanged or sold for the purchase of others. 56 Geo, 3, c. 99. AN ACT to vest the Elgin Collection of Ancient Marbles and Sculpture in the Trustees of the British Museum for the use of the Public : Sec. 1 . Treasury to issue 35,000 1. to the Trustees of the British Museum, to be applie4 in the purchase of the Elgin Collection of Marbles. 3. On payment of purchase-money, collection vested in Trustees. 3. Collection to be kept in British Museum. 4. The Earl of Elgin to be added to Trustees. 5 Geo. 4, c, 39. AN ACT for amending former Acts relative to the British Museum-: . Sec. 1 . Additional Trustees appointed. 2. Resignation of Trustees, to be signified in writing under their hands, accepted and others chosen. 3. Trustees may purchase lands notwithstanding Statutes of Mortmain. 5 Geo. 4, c.'6o. AN ACT to carry into effect the Will of Richard Payne Knight, Esq. so far as the same relates to a bequest by the said R. P. Knight, of a Collection of Coins, Medals and other valuable articles to the British Museum, and to vest the said collection in the Trustees of the said British Museum for the use of the Public : Sec. 1. Thomas Andrew Knight, Esq. added to the Trustees of the British Museum, with perpetual succession to his descendants. 2. To be deemed hereditary family Trustees. 3. Bequest of,R. P. Knight, vested in the Trustees of the British Museum in perpetuity. N. JB.— Payment for all purchases voted by the House of Commons for the use of the British Museum, are noticed in the Appropriation Acts of each year in which such Grants - have been proposed. C 573 ] INDEX. PRINCIPAL SUBJECTS ON WHICH EVIDENCE WAS TAKEN, WITH THE NAMES OF WITNESSES EXAMINED QN EACH SUBJECT. GENEBAL MANAGEMENT OF THE MUSEUM: Page of index. Ellis, Sir Henry 590-594 Forshall, Rev. J. .--_>.__. 596-598 INDEX TO MANUSCRIPTS: Ellis, Sir Henry --------._ 590-594 Forshall, Rev. J. -------- -l 596-598 Madden, Sir F. - - - - - - - - -,_ _ 607 Millard, John ---..__ ___-_ ggS NATURAL HISTORY COLLECTION: Children, John George --------_. gg^ Gray, John Edward ------_.__ ggo Konig, Charles --------__. 605 Samouelle, George -----_..__ Qi^ BOTANICAL COLLECTION: Brmon, Robert ---------__ ggj COINS AND MEDALS COLLECTION: Hawkins, Edward - - - - - - - - - -601 CONCHOLOGICAL COLLECTION: Gray, John Edward --.,,--____ 600 ENTOMOLOGICAL COLLECTION: Samouelle, George - .■' - . _ . _ _ _ _ - 615 MARBLES AND SCULPTURE : Hawkins, Edward - - ' - - - - - - ' - - 601 Sarti, Petro Angel - - - - - - - - - -617 Westmacottf Richard, r.a.- - - - - - - - - 62a ZOOLOGICAL COLLECTION: Children, John George - - - - - -,- - - - 584 Konig, Charles --.._------ 605 J 479- 4 » 3 LIST [ 674 ] wmmimmmmmmm LIST OF HEADINGS CONTAINED IN THE FOLLOWING INDEX. I. MANAGEMENT, INCOME AND EXPENDITURE OF THE MUSEUM. II. COLLECTIONS IN THE MUSEUM: 1. Generally, 4. Marbles and Statues. 2. Manuscripts, 5. Pictures. 3. Coins, ' III. ACCOMMODATION OF THE PUBLIC, IV. SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS, V. FOREIGN LITERARY INSTITUTIONS AND LIBRARIES. I. Management, Income and Expenditure of the Museum. oHndei. Accounts qfth? British Museum -----__-__ c^i. Assistants ---------__-__ ^70 Attendants --------_____ ^70 Bequests of Collections ------_._.._ rgg Bird Stuffing ^go Board of' Management -___ -__-__ r^q £ooA; i4»rf -----------__ e8o British Museum - - - - . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ . „ liSi Buildings ^82 Catalogues of the Museum: 1. Generally ------_._.. rgo 2. Alphabetical ----__.__ ngq 3. Classed -------__.__ eg"? Catalogues of Manuscripts - - - - - - - __ _ _ rg^ Catalogues of Maps --------.a., cg^ Catalogues of Printed Books ------____ rg^ Clffss^cation of the Library -- - - - - _ . ^ _rgc> Committees -*---------___ rgg Conditions of Bequests - - - - _ _*_ _ _ _ _ -gg Correspondence ---_ ----___ cgQ Dadtvell's Greek Bronzes -------._._ cgS Donations and Bequests -------____ egg Donors, Names of ------..____ -go Drawings and Engravings ------_____ tgn Duplicate Books and Coins ----____ rgn Egina Marbles II ego Evidence - - - - - . -' . _ _ _ . _#_•_ cq^ Expenditure --------__«__ rqe Experiments ----,----_•-*__ cof Gough, Richard, Esq. ------_..__ rqg iJeatfo of Departments ------__-.'_ gQg Income and Expenditure of the Museum - - - - -.1 _ _ gQo Index to Manuscripts -----_______ cq^ Joursanvault, Baron cfe----__:_._B g^^ Landed Property ---------. _f gog Librarian, Principal^ of the British Museum ----__. goo Manuscripts ---------_.__ gf,« Manuscript Department -------____ g^I Manuscripts, Keeper 0/-- ----_.__ ^j^ Maps, Prints and Drawings -----.__ _ c~ Meetings of the Trustees - - - . _ _ _'. _ _ ' k ^ Minutes of Trustees and Committees ------___ «oS Moulds of Statues --________ -fin Natural History D^artment - - - . _ _ . _ _ -fiii Officers of the British Museum - - - . _ _ _ _ _ ^ Parliamentary Grants _..-______ „ Parliamentary Returns - - - - _ _ _ „ _ _ "fii<> Printed Books --------___" "g,„ Printing -- --IIII giq Prints and Drawings ------ ____'"^" Publications ---_-______""3 Purchase of Collections -.., . 'a J ' -'--.- 613 , Reading [ 5^5 J Page of Index, Reading Room ------ -._.__ gj^ Receipts and Payments __--_._-___ gj^ Reports -------_------ 614 Salaries -------_-----. 615 Sale of Publications - - - - - - - - - - - -615 Sculpture -------------- 617 Secretary to the Museum - - - - _ - - - - - - 617 Synopsis -------------- 620 Trustees of the British Museum: 1. Generally ___________ 620 2. Proposal for adding Scientific Men to the Trustees - _ _ _ 630 3. I^ect of Public Functionaries being Trustees - - - - - 621 4. Elected Trustees ____.----- 621 5. Family Trustees - - - - - - - - - -621 6. Official Trustees -_____---- 621 Visitation ---.---------- 622 Zoological Department ----------- 623 II. Collections in the Museum: 1. Generally: Banks, Sir Joseph, Collection of --------- - 579 Bridgewater, Earl of, Bequest of --_-_-._ -581 Edwards, Major, Bequest of---------- 589 Hawkins's Fossils ._--------_- 602 Sloane, Sir H., Collection of -- - - - - - - - -618 White's Bequest - - - - - - - - --- - - - 633 JBotanical Collection - - - - - - - - - - - -581 Collections _-_--.-_----- 586 Conchological Collection - - - - - - - - --,- 586 Entomological Collection ----------- 594 Jchthyological Collection ----------- 603 King's Library ------------- 604 Minerdlogical Collection ----------- 608 Natural History Collection - - - - - - - - -*- -610 Ornithological Collection - - - - -- - - - - -612 Salt's Egyptian Antiquities - - - - - - - - - -615 Zoological Collection - -,- - - - - - -- - - 623 2. Manuscripts: Alexandrian Manuscripts - - - - - - - - - . - -577 Arundel Manuscripts ------------ 578 Coftonian Manuscripts _--_------- 587 Efy Manuscript ------------ 594 Harleian Manuscripts - - - - - - - - - - -60 1 Sloane, Sir Hans, Collection of - - - - - - - - - -618 t/pgott's Manuscripts -- - - - - - - - - - -621 3. Coins: Jnglo-Gallic Coins ------------ 578 Coins and Medals ------------ 585 Greek Coins - - - - - - -' - - - ~ ' - - 600 Pembroke, Lord, Coins of - - - - - - - - - - -612 4. Marbles and Statues : Athenian Marbles ----------- 579 Bronzes -------------- 581 Elgin Marbles ------------- 589 Marbles - 607 5. Pictures:' Bequmont, Sir George, Pictures of - -,- - - - - - - 57& Carr, The Rev. Holwell - - -583 III. — Accommodation of the Public: Admission of the Public --,_-_---- - 577 Antiquities, Gallery of .-...-. ---^- 578 Foreigner's _---_----- .-. ggg Holidays, Public -.. 602 Hours of Admission ------------ 603 JAbrary of the Museum - - - - - -.- - - - - 606 ' Moulds of Statues 609 Reading Room 614 Viiitors ----------'---- 622 4 D 4 IV. Suggestions [ 676 1 IV. — SuggestTons for Improvements : Page of index. Catalogues of the Museum, 3 - - - - - - - -- - 583 Formatore -__---------- 595 Government ___---------'- 599 Y.~FoREiGN Literary Institutions and Libraries: Belgium -------------- 579 BibliotMque Imperiale Publique, ei St. Petersbourgh ------ ^80 Bibliothhque Royale d, Paris - - - - - - -- - - 580 Continent ------------- 586 Denmark .• I. Despatch FROM Minister AT Copenhagen - - - - 587 II. Museums at Copenhagen : 1. Royal Museum of Arts and Antiquities ------ 587 2. Royal Cabinet of Coins and Medals ------ 588 3. Royal Cabinet of Engravings ------- ggg 4. Royal Museum of Natural History ------ ^88 6. Museum of Northern Antiquities ------- g88 6. Royal Picture Gallery^ -_-__--__ g88 III. Libraries at Copenhagen : 1. Classen's ----------- 588 2. King's ----588 3. University ----------- 588 Foreign Libraries _---_,------- gpg France : I. Comparison between England and France as to Literary Institutions - - - - - - - -"- - 598 II. Public Instruction in France - - - - -' - 598 III. Royal Museums; 1. Generally ----------- gg8 2. Ropal Museum of Egyptian and Greek Antiquities - - - - gg8 3. Naval Museum ----.----_- ^gg 4. Museum of Artillery --------- ^gg IV. Libraries in France --------- 599 Frankfort: 1. Literary Institutions generally -------- ^gg 2. Staedel Institution ---------- ggg 3. Senkenbergh Museum -------- - ^gp 4. Libraries ------------ r|gg Jardin des Plantes ci Paris ----------- 604 Russia .- 1. Generally - -,- - - - - -'- - - - 615 2. Literary Institutions - - - - - - - - - -615 3. Le Musie Roumaintzof - - - - - - - - -615' 4. L'Academie des Sciences - - - - - - - - -615 Sardinia ---__.-------- gi5 Saxony - - - - - - - - - - - - - -617 Sicily --,-" 617 Spain .- 1. Literary Institution - - - - - - - - - -618 2. National Museums --------__ q^^ 3. Royal Academy of History - - - - - - - -*6i8 4. Royal Conservatflry of Arts at Madrid - - -"- - -'6iq' 6. Provincial Libraries and Archives - - - - - _ -6iq 6. Library of the Junta of Commerce at Corunna ----- Qiq Sweden - - - - -- - - - - - - -_ gjq Switzerland : 1. Literary Institutions - -- - - - . - - -610 2. Museum of Natural History at Bern - - - - - - -6iq 3. Library ---620 Tuscany - ----- - g^^ mrtemberg -----------., g2. INDEX. [ 577 ] ' INDEX. N. B. — In the following Index, liep. p. refers to the Page of the Report ; the Figures following the Names to the Questions of the Evidence ; and App.p. to the Page of the Appendix. ABERCROMBIE, A., Esq. Letter from him to Viscount Palmerston, dated Berlin> 12th Nov. 1834, relative to literary institutions in Prussia, App.p. 481. Academie, Imperiale des Sciences. See Russia, 4. Academy, Royal, President of. See Trustees of the British Museum, 6.. Accounts of the British Museum. Officers of the establishment who are conversant with accounts, Ellis 403,-104 By whom the account^ of the Museum are audited, ForshalL 806-825 Mode of auditing the annual accounts by the sub-committee of finance, Forshall 920-927 ^There would be no objection to the accounts being authenticated by the a\iditors or the principal librarian, though the authentication by the accountant has always been considered sufficient, PorsAaZ/ 961 Evidence as to supposed omissions of receipt and appropriation in accounts laid before Parliament, Forshall 962-970 Variance between accounts returned to Parliament in 1833, and the annual accounts, and" cause thereof, Forshall 982-1005 Under what head in the accounts payments to Mr. Millard will be found, Forshall 993-999 Mode of keeping the accounts could not be improved to any extent, Forshall 1269, 1270. See also Elgin Marbles. Extra Service. Literature, Arts and Science. Parliamentary Grants. Parliamentary Returns. Rich, Collection. Acts of Parliament. Opinion that the Act 26 Geo. 2, entirely superseded the Act of Anne, Ellis 1047-1050 List of statutes relating to the British Museum, App.p. 570. See also Cottonian Collection. Admiralty. The admiralty has presented some objects' to the Museum, but not many rela- tive to zoology, Konig 2847. See also Parry, Captain. Admission of the Public. Days of the week the public are admitted to the British Museum necessity for Saturday being devoted to cleaning, Ellis 252-266 The public could no*. be advantageously admitted in the month of September, that month beipg devoted to reparations and re-arrangements, Forshall 1271-1283 Account of the number of appli- 1 tions made to the trustees of the British Museum (at meetings authorized according to the rules to grant admissions), for the purpose of being admitted to inspect that' part of the collection of minerals not generally shgwn, or any particular part thereof; similar accounts for the collections of medals and coins, and prints and drawings, and to the read- ing room, 1815 to 1820 ; and admissions in consequence of such applications, App. p. 397. See nho Evening Admission. Foreigners. Holidays. Hours of Admission. Literary Characters. Repairs, Alabaster Sarcophagus. See Salt's Egyptian Antiquities. Alexandrian Manuscripts. Parliamentary grant, in 1817, on account of the Alexandrian manuscript fund ; sum paid thereout, Cowtan 939-945 Appropriation of part of the- Parliamentary grant of 1817, for this purpose, to the general purposes of the Museum, Ellis 946-949^ — Sums voted for this purpose were not strictly so applied, Forshalt 1193-1105 Sum asked from Parliament on this account, and sum expended thereon^ Cowtan 1345-1349 Balance from the Alexandrian manuscripts was accounted for to Parliament, and went towards the supplies of the following year, Ellis 1358, 1359- Sums paid on account of the publication of the facsimile of the Alexandrian manuscripts,- 1821 to 1833, and manner in which the several sums were distributed, App.p- 364- — '■ Account showing the number of copies of the fac-simile of the Alexandrian manuscripts which were printed, and the manner in which they were disposed of, Jpp.p. 305 Account of the Alexandrian manuscript fund : 1814, ^PP- P- 300—1815, -^PP- P- 302— 1816, ^pp. p. 305—1817, App.p. 307— 1818, ^pp. p. 3P9-:i8i9. App. p. $12— 1S20, App. p. 3H—1S21, App.p. 317—1822, App.p. 3^0— 182s, App. p. 323—1824, Jpp.p. 326— 1828, ^pp. p. 336. Alphabetical Catalogues. See Catalogues of the British Museum, 2. Ancient Marbles. Persons by whom the description of the collection of ancient marbles in the Museum is edited, Hawkins 3457-3460. • a 1 ' 479. 4 E ^»g'°- 578 A N G A R U [British' Anglo-Gallic Coins. Number of copies of the catalogue of Anglo-Gallic coins, which were printed, distributed, retained, and sold, Ellis 1075 Description thereof commenced by Mr. Combe, and published by witness, Hawkins 3449 Sums paid on account of the publication of the Anglo Gallic coins, 1821 to 1833, and manner in which the several sums were distributed, App. p.266 Account showing the number of copies of the catalogue of Anglo Gallic coins which were printed, and the manner in which they have been dis- posed of, Jpp. p. 366. Annales du Museum. See Natural History Department. Annual Reports. See Reports. Annual Visitation. See Reports. Visitation. Antiquarian Society of Paris. Loan to witness by Sir Henry Ellis, of the transactions of the Celtic or Antiquarian Society of Paris, Millard 2349. Antiquaries, President of the Society of. See Trustees, Q. Antiquaries, Secretary to Society of. Salary received by witness as joint secretary to the Society of Antiquaries; the duties do not interfere with those of librarian to the Museum, Ellis 281-284. Antique Statues. See Marbles. Antiques, Gallery of, at Dresden. See Saxony. Antiquities. Witness is generally consulted as to the value of collections of classical anti- quities offered for sale, ifaasfc'ns 3461-3463 How far witness deciphers Greek inscrip- tions and hieroglyphic^ in specimens of Grecian and Egyptian antiquities, Hawkins 3464. See also Belzoni, Mr. France, III, '2. Marbles. Millengen, Mi. Salt's Egyptian Antiquities. Antiquities, Gallery of. Cause of the delay in the publication of the volume of the Gallery of Antiquities, now in the press, Forshall 1122-1132 Names of draftsmen and engravers employed; necessity for unity of design, Forshall 1133-1137 — ■ — Account of sums ex- pended in the publication thereof, 1809 to 1834, put in, Cowtan 2211 Students to the Gallery of Antiquities generally come recommended by Royal Academicians, though it is not absolutely necessary, Westmacott 3983-3985 Sums paid on account of the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities, volumes V. to IX., 1821 to 1833, ^nd manner in which the several sums were distributed, App. p. 362, 363 Number of copies of volumes V, to IX. that were printed, and manner they have been disposed of, App. p. 364 Sum expended, on the publication of the Gallery of Antiquities, 1809 to 1834, App.p.a^iQ. Antiquities, Museums of. See Tuscany. Wirtemberg. Antiquities, Northern, Museum of, at Copenhagen. See Denmark, 1. Apollo, Statue of. Difficulty has arisen to an English artist in obtaining leave to cast from the statue of Apollo on account of risk to the statue, Hawkins 3855 The Apollo Belvedere was moulded only twice in 57 years, Westmacott 3942.-^: — See also Canova. Arachnoidoe. The Arachnoidoehave long been arranged under their generic titles, but their species is now being determined by Mr. Children, Samouelle 3867-3870. Archaismus Grapkicus. See Spelman's Archaismus Graphicus. Archives. See Spain, 5. Arctic Birds. See Ornithological Collection. Armour. See France, III, 4. Armoury. See Saxony, Art, Works of. Articles that are comprehended m the term, " works of art," Hawkins 3442- Artillery, Museum of. See France, III, 4. Artists. See Sculpture. Arts. See Entomology. Arts and Antiquities, Royal Museum of, at Copenhagen. See Denmark, II, 1. Arts, Cabinet of. See Wirtemberg. Arts, Royal Conservatory of, at Madrid. See Spain, 4. Arundel Manuscripts. Nature of the exchange, and consideration given by the Museum to the Royal Society for the Arundel manuscripts, Ellis 8f Forshall 443-454 Value paid for the Arundel manuscripts, and why the amount was not mentioned in the annual returns to Parliament, Forshall 524-528 Printed catalogue of the Arundel manu- scripts published last year; reason the index was not published with it, Forshall 789- 7i»4 To whom copies of the Arundel catalogue have been given ; some have been sold, Forshall 795-797 Reason the sums received by the trustees, in 1833, on account of the exchange with the Royal Society, for the Arundel manuscripts, are not mentionad in Mmeum; 1835.] A R U BEL g^g - Arundel Manuscripts — 4/)p.p. 481. Bibliothtque Royale a Paris. Royal ordonnance of- 1832 relative to the conduct of, E^/zs 246 Date of the last catalogue in the Royal Library at Paris ; great quantity of 'books therein that are uncatalogued, Ellis 2493-2495 Ordonnance du Roi concernant ]a Bibliotheque Royale, App. p. 405 R^glement concernant la Bibliothtque Royale App. p. 470. * Bird-stuffing. This operation was tried to be carried on at the Museum, but it did not answer. Children 3146 The public have the security that the best bird-stuffer in the kingdom is employed, CfeVcZrm 3 147-3 149 It is better done by employing an eminent - bird-stuffer than by performing the operation at the Museum, 6^3/3274, 3275. See also Gould, Mr. Birds, See Ornithological Collection. Bligh, The Honourable J. D. Letter from him to the Duke of Wellington, dated St. Petersburgh, 28 December 1834, relative to literary institutions' in Russia, App. p. 447. Board of Management. Difficulty of forming an opinion as to the result of placino' the British Museum under a Board, composed of heads of departments, under the control of the Secretary of State for the Home Department, Ellis 237, 238. . Board of Works. See Buildings. Board Meetings. Nature of the attendance of trustees at thp board meetings, Ellis 64-74. Board Wages.- Amount of board wages to servants, Forshall 1259, 1260. Bodleian Library. There is no classed catalogue of the Bodleian library, Ellis 2496. -See also Douce, Mr. Cough, Richard, Esq. Book Fund. Receipts and expenditure of the book fund : 1812, ^pn p 296 1813 Jpp p. 298-1814, App.p. 300-1815, Jpp. p. 302—1816, App. p. 304-1817, App. p. 007" — 1818, App. p.^og— i8ig, Jpp. p. ^12—1820, -^p/). p. 31 4--1 821, App. p. 317—1122 Jpp. p. 320—1823, App. p. 323—1.824, App. p. 325-1825, App. p. 328—1826, App. p. 330—1827, App./). 333-1828, Jpp. p. 335—1829, App. p. 339— 1830, Jpp. p. 342 —1831, App. p. 345—1 832, App. p. 348—1833, App. p. 351—1834, App. p. 354. Books. Instance of 55 books-being required in one morning by one gentleman Ellis iqi <, See also Duplicate Books and Coins. Fees. Freight. Library of the British Museum. Printed Books. Publications. Sales of Publications. Books and Manuscripts. Sums voted in 1833 for the purchase thereof, and the sum expended ju 1834, nearly tally, Forshall 1213, 1214. Botanical Museum; 1835.3 BOT BRO 581 Botanical Collection. Merits of Mr. Brown as a botanist; has the charge of the Bauksian collection ; the other botanical collection of the Museum will be made over to him, Konig 2854-2860 The care of the whole botanical collection of the Museum are in progress of being placed under witness's charge, Brown 3638-3644 rWitness is recently enabled to increase the collection nearly to the extent he suggested as sufficient. Brown 3697 Period of the first representation as to the transfer of the whole botanical collection to witness's charge, Brown 3702, 3703 If the botanical department eventually trans- ferred to the natural history department, the efficiency of the former will be impaired, Brown 3731. Botany. See Library of the British Museum. Brazilian Insects. See Noel, Mrs. ' Bridgewater, 'Earl of. Bequest of. Salary paid to the librarian of, jFonAaZ/ 781-788 Extent of the bequest, and appropriation of the proceeds, Forshall 1629-1650-^ Documents put in ; being extract of the will of the Earl of Bridgwater ; minutes of the trustees as to the appropriation of part of the dividends; statement of the applica- tion of the proceeds, Forshall 1872 Minutes of trustees on Lord Bridgewater's bequest, dated 10 March \8^a, App. p. 41^ Statement of receipts and payments on account of the Bridgew;ater fund, App. p.414—1 — Extract from the will and codicils qf the Earl of Bridgewater, so far as the same concern the trustees of the British Museum, App. p. 415-418. British Collection of Entymology. Excess of this collection over that of Sir Hans Sloane at the period of the attack by the Edinburgh Review on the British Museum, Samouelle 3813- British Fresh-water Shells. There is a very good collection of them in the Museum, Konig 2719. British Minerals. There is a collection of British minerals, but some of the principal specimens are incorporated with the general collection, Konig 2569. Bricish Museum. Origin of the British Museum, Ellis 11 The trust of the British Museum is as faithfully and as' perfectly administered as such an institution will allow, JEllis 345- The Museum is well constituted, as the great national storehouse of materials for literature, art and science, for assisting persons engaged in those pursuits, Forshall 61 2-61S Objects of the Museum, Gray 3322 No important ground of objection to the general management of the Museum, allowance being made for the great variety and little connexion of objects which the establishment embraces, Brown 3715- See also Evidence. Funds. Heads of Departments. Income and Expenditure. Landed Property. Lectures. LibrHry of the British Museum. Officers of the British Museum. Reading-room. Rewards. Synopsis. Trustees. British Specimens. The time and place when and where any rare British specimen has been taken should be noticed in the synopsis, Children 3184. Bronzes. Injury to bronzes from frequent casts is more conspicuous than to marbles unless protected by a strong patina, Hawkins 3861 ^Delicate bronzes would suffer more from moulding than marbles; large bronzes not so much, Westmacott 3988 It is not desirable that moulds should be taken of the smaller bronzes in the Museum, Westmacott 4000-4003. See also DodwelFs Greek Bronzes. Brown, Robert. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — Salary and duties of the office of under- librarian and keeper of the Banksian botanical collections, 3630-3637—^ — The care of the whole botanical collections of the Museum are in progress of being placed under witness's charge, 3638-3644 The herbaria of Sir Hans Sloane is contained in a number of volumes whose contetits are miscellaneous, and can only be rendered accessible by an index, 3644 The Sloane collection in nearly the same state of preservation as it was fifty years ago, 3645-3650 Doubts as to there being any catalogue containing the number of specimens, 3651-3653 Charge by the Edinburgh Review of 1823 of injury to the Sloane collection by dust and worms, and contradiction of that charge to the extent that witness has examined the collection, 3654-3662 The volumes con- .tainin_g the collection will be more accessible than they have been ; the previous want of access was partly caused by limited space, 3663-3666. The library of the Museum does not contain all the latest works on botany which are -desirable, 3667-3673 Lists of important works wanted have been given in to the principal of the department of printed books, 3675 Failure of an action brought by the Museum under the Copyright Act, to obtain possession of the Flora Grseca, 3678- 3681 Particulars as to the transfer of Sir Joseph Banks's collection to the Museum, and the terms on which witness accompanied it, 3682-3689 Unsuccessful attempt of witness to obtain a private room, which is an accommodation the other under- librarians have, 3690-3696- Witness is recently enabled to increase the collection nearly to the extent he suggested- as sufficient, 3697 Period of the first represen- tation as to the transfer of the whole botanical collection to witness's charge, 3702, 3703 Witness has not been consulted about the requisite accommodation in any other part bf the building than the east wing, 3705, 3706. ' 479. , 4 E 3 Tb^ 582 BRO CAN [British Brown, Robert. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continued. The trustees have not been elected from professionally scientific men ; men distin- guished in branches of science with which the Museum has little connexion would not be particularly well qualified for the management of such an institution as the Museum, 3707-3712 More appropriate modes of rewarding scientific men might be found than electing them trustees of the Museum, 3713 Institutions in Paris are managed by a board ; their constitution is different from that of the Museum, 3714, 3715 Gentle- men holding high ofiicial situations, whose avocations would prevent them attending to the conceriis of the Museum, would be equally as objectionable for its management as scientific men engaged in the professional pursuits, 3716-3720 Scientific knoyvledge, particularly as regards natural history, should not be overlooked as a qualification with with regard to the election of trustees, 3721-3723 Mode of appointment of the governing body of the Jardin du Roi in Paris, 3724-3727. Heads of departments in the Museum giving lectures would be objectionable, 3729 ' The public have a moral security, from the character of individuals appointed as heads of departments in the Museum, that they will keep up the reputation which acquired them their appointment, 3730 If the botanical department eventually trans- ferred to the natural history department, the efficiency of the former will be impaired, 3731 Natural history department in the Jardin du Roi is more extensive than that of the Museum subdivisions of the department, 3732, 3733 Not advisable that the officers of the Museum should publish Annales du Museum, while natural history is so subdivided, 3734 Societies in this country for the cultivation of natural history which are supported by individual subscriptions, 3734, 3735 — — Advantage if Government were to give occasional assistance in the publication of memoirs on objects of science, 3736, 3737 There are scientific societies in Paris of recent origin corresponding with those in London, 3738-3740 Extent to which there is an analogy between the con- stitution of the Museum and that of the Jardin du Roi, 3741. Brown, Mr. His collection is in a fine state of preservation, Samouelle 3820, 3821. Bruce Matmscripts. Contents of the Bruce manuscpipts, and cause of the purchase being rejected by the Museum, Ellis 606-608 Mr. Bruce's manuscripts were not purchased on account of the extravagant price asked for them, Illlis 1450-14661 Buchland, the Rev. Dr. Letter from Professor Buckland to Mr. Forshall relative to the restorations in Hawkins's fossils, Forshall 2962 Extract of a letter from him to the Right Hon. Lord Farnborough, dated 26 June 1834, relative to Hawkins's fossils, App. p. 437 Letter from him to the Trustees, dated 7 July 1834, on the same subject, App. p. 440 Another letter, dated 12 July 1834, App- p. 441 Another letter, dated 20 July 1834, App. p. 441^ Letter from him to the Rev. J. Forshall, dated 1 2 March 1835, on the same subject, \/ipp. j^. 443. Budget. See France, II. Buenos Ayres. Letter from Hamilton Hamilton, Esq. to the Duke of Wellington, dated 16 February 1835, relative to literary institutions, App, p. 491. Buildings. Specimens are not liable now to be spoiled for want of room, though many were spoilt before the new buildings. Children 3381-3383^ Witness could not ha,ve given a detail of the space required for his department, if he had been consulted, from the many specimens stowed away that were inaccessible, CMJ^'ew 3384-3388 Extent to which witness has been consulted by the architect, as to the arrangement of the new buildings, in reference to witness's department, Hawkins 3537-3540 Witness has not been consulted about the requisite accommodation in any other part of the building than the east wing, J5ro®w 3705, 3706 The room in which the Elgin marbles are placed is one of the finest in the world, and as finely lighted as any, Westmacott 3966-3973 — ' — Sums paid by the Board of Works, on account of the British Museum, specifying the purposes for which paid ; together with buildings proposed to be erected by the Board of Works, for the Museum, according to the plan of Sir Robert Smirke, App. p. 382 Similar account from February 1821 to March 1823, App. p. 383. See also 'Natural History, Collection of. Zoological Collection. Bullock's Collections. See Natural History, Collection of. Burchell, Mr. Mr. Burchell's valuable specimens of nat bited from want of room, Konig 2805-2815. Bumey Manuscripts. The second, part of the new general catalogue, containing the Burney manuscripts, is nearly, if not quite, finished, Ellis 1797. Burchell, Mr. Mr. Burchell's valuable specimens of natural history have not been exhi- bited from want of room, Konig 2805-2815. C. Cabinets. Cedar cabinets were replaced by mahogany, the gum from the cedar having a tendency to destroy the insects, Samouelle 3822. Canova. He would not allow the Apollo Belvedere to be moulded, Westmacott 3942. Canterbury, His Grace the Archbishop of. Report made to, by Sir Henry Ellis, dated 7th September 1829, relative to the manuscripts at Pomard, App.p, 433. Carr, Museum; 1835.] CAR CAT 583 Carr, the Rev. Holwell. The collection of pictures bestowed on the Musemn by the Rev. Holwell Carr are with Sir George Beaumont's, in the National Gallery, Forshall 590-593 His portrait has been received by the trustees, and placed along' with his collection of pictures, Forshall 1635 Extract from the minutes of the trustees respecting Mr. Holwell Carr's pictures, dated 12th March 1831, App.p. 431. Cartwrigkt, Thomas, Esq. Letter from him to Viscount Palmerston, dated Frankfort, 18 July 1835, relative to literary institutions, App.p.4g2^ ' Casl&f. See King's Library. Casts. See Bronzes. Formatore. Moulding Statues. Roman Statues, Sculpture. Vatican. Catalogues OF THE Museum : ' 1. Generally. 2. Alphabetical. 3. Classed. 1. Generally: Observations by Sir Harris Nicolas that the catalogues of the Harleian, Lansdowne, and Cottonian manuscripts are often erroneous, and generally unsatisfactory, Forshall 734—738 Number of printed and manuscript catalogues there are in the Museum, with and without indexes, Forshall 744-749 The names of gentlemen composing catalogues are affixed to them, Forshall 862, 863 — '■ — Advantageous that catalogues should be rather in arrear to keep in employment expert officers, over having the works complete, and reducing the establishment, Forshall 1138-1143 -Description of catalogues that are placed in the Reading-room, Ellis 1684, 1685 The additions to the Library have doubled the bulk of the catalogue published in 1819, the additions are continued in ma- nuscript, £ZZis 1791-1795 Inconvenience to literary men from certain catalogues in the Museum being without indexes, Millard 2304-2307 In whose hands the copy- right qf the various catalogues published at the expense of the trustees, and also of those not so published, is vested, Ellis 2529. 2. Alphabetical: The completion of an alphabetical catalogue is more essential than a classed catalogue, the latter being only occasionally useful, Ellis 1690-1694-^ Names of gentlemen em- ployed thereon ; if they required additional attendance it would be immediately granted them, Ellis 1724-1751— — A complete alphabetical catalogue is a pressing want, Ellis ^437-2439. 3. Classed Catalogues : The classed catalogue has been discontinued, partly on the ground of expense, and partly from the necessity of completing the alphabetical one, £Z/zs 1695-1700. 2451- 2456. 2490, 2491 The trustees may contemplate forming a -classed catalogue, but it is doubtful whether they intend printing it, Ellis 1722 Differences of opinion with regard to the modes of classification in catalogues; but still a classed catalogue is desirable, Ellis 1754-1763. 2504-2512 Mr. Home's outline of classification was extremely good as well as elaborate, but he has changed his mind as to various portions of it, Ellis 1765-1773 Very great expense of a classed catalogue for the Museum, Ellis 1774. 1779-1790 Sum granted by Parliament for several years towards the formation of one, Ellis 1790. 2440-2442 The titles made in forming the classed cata- logue are now being used in forming the alphabetical one, but are so marked as to be easily transferred when the previous work is renewed, Ellis 1701-1720. 2424-2431. Progress might have been made in the classed catalogue, if the powerful assistance pos- sessed by the Museum had been brought to bear upon it, Ellis 2432-2437 The index to titles and authors annexed to a classed catalogue is not lik'e an alphabetical cata- logue superadded to a classed catalogue, Ellis 2443-2450 The two works could not be performed simultaneously with the same quickness, Ellis 1721. 2451-2456 Doubts whether foreigners would consult a classed catalogue to ascertain the richness or poverty of the Museum library as compared with their own, 'Ellis 2461-2463 A librarian who does his duty supplies the place of a classed catalogue, which from its nature can- not be perfect, Ellis 1775-1778. 2500-2503 If the two catalogues are done con- jointly the establishment must be increased; for the persons engaged on it must be entirely devoted to it, Ellis 2451-2456. 25i4-r25l7 Most classed catalogues in pri-' vate institutions are heedlessly made, and are of comparatively little use, Ellis 2471- 2484.2511.2513 By whom the classed catalogue of the King's library was made; extent to which it is a classed catalogue, FJ His 1686^1689. Estimated expenditure for forming classed catalogue: For 1827, App. p. 331 — 1828, Jpp. F-333-^i829,l/3p.^. 336— 1830, J./>p.jp. 339— 1831, ^pjj.p. 342— 1832, App. p. 345—1 833, App. p. 348—1 834, Jpp. ^. 351 . See also Bodleian Library. Donations and Bequests. Entomological Collection. Foreign Libraries. Gems. Greek Coins. Jean, Baron de. Natural History, Collection of. Oriental Manuscripts. , 479. 4 E 4 Catalogues 584 CAT CHI [British Catalogues of Manuscripts. Sums voted in 1833, and expended for printing this catalogue,, nearly tally, Forshall 1215-1217 Estimated and actual expenditure for, and out of what particular ^ums in the estimate the payments are made, forsAaZ/' 1 237-1 254 Names of catalogues of manuscripts, with indexes, Ellis 1797-1799. See also Burney Manuscripts. Cottonian Manuscripts. Hargrove Manuscripts. Harleian Manuscripts. Index to Manuscripts. King's Library. Catalogues of Maps, 8;c. Number of copies of the catalogue of maps, topographical prints and drawings in the library of Geo. 4, which were printed, sold and distributed, 1821 to- 1833, Ellis 1064. Catalogue of Printed Books. Estimated and actual expenditure for the catalogue of printed books, and out of what particular sums in the estimate the payments are made, Forshall 1237-1254; App. p. 354. Catalogues of Private Institutions. See Catalogues of the Museum,^. Edinburgh Advocates^ Library. Cates, Mr. Letter from Mr. Gates to Sir H. Ellis, as to persons attending the Reading- room, App. p. 429. Chanticleer, His Majesty's Ship. On its return from a scientific expedition in 1831, its collections were divided between the Zoological Society and tlie Museum, with choice to the Society, Gray 3358. Charters. See Hogarth, Mr. Chiefs of Departments. See Heads of Depart?nents. Children, John George. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — Amount of v/itness's salary as assist- ant officer in the natural history department ; duties of the office, 3029-3037 Extent to which witness is responsible for the arrangement of the zoological collection, 3038-3043 Also for the entomological department, 3044-3046 Witness hasnotsufficientassjst- ance in the zoological department, 3047-3053 There is no perfect catalogue of speci-- mens in the natural history department; such an one is desirable, but would be expensive, from the increased number of hands requisite for its formation, 3054-3064 Advan-' tages and disadvantages that would arise from the formation of a board composed of the most eminent naturalists to have the control of the natural history department, 3065- 3068 How far the trustees have the power of seeking to obtain the most distinguished men in each branch of science, with a view to placing them at the head of departments, 3069-3071 The addition of tlte most eminent, literary and scientific men, to the board of trustees, would be beneficial, 3072-3076. The mammalia are in good condition ; they are arranged according to Cuvier, whose ■' nomenclature is adopted with such variations as recent discoveries have rendered neces- sary, 3077, 3078- Further evidence upon the supposed effect of associating scientific men with the trustees, 3079-3086 The honour of a trusteeship would be a benefit to science, and induce men to turn their attention to scientific objects, 3087-3089 Whether certain men of science named would benefit the Museum by being attached to it as trustees, 3090-3094. 3101 Very eminent scientific knowledge dught not to be a sufficient inducement for election, were the individual no't pt)ssessed of amiable quali- ties, 3095-3100. 3102-3104 The important duties of great public functionaries leave them but little time to attend to the business of the Museum, 3108 The constitution of the Museum might be improved, though not the slightest reflection can be cast on the present trustees, 3109, 3110. Distinguished scientific men, who have been trustees, have also been men of high rank, 3111-3115 System of nomenclature attached to the different specimens; more names would be attached to the labels if there were more hands for the performance of the duties, 3123-3131 There has not been sufficient time to put the names on the various specimens with the present number of hands, 3132-3134 Cause of some specimens not bemg exhibited ; they are in general put into the cases as soon as possible, 3142- A chemical laboratory, in the British Museum, would be desirable, 3152-3160— — Extent to which witness's duties, as secretary to the Royal' Society, interfere with his duties at the Museum, 3161-3163 Extent to which the names of donors are mentioned in the synopsis; instances where they are not attached to the specimens are accidental omis- sions, 3 166-3 170 Justification of the actof adding tusks to the skeleton of an elephant presented to the Museum, 3171-3176 It is more advisable to place long descriptions of birds m the synopsis than on the labek, 3177-3180 The age and sex of birds are indicated where known, 3182 Specimens belonging to remarkable collections should he indicated on the label, 3183. Zoological lectures would be beneficial, but, would be attended with very great expense, 3187 Advantages that would be derived from a scientific naturalist being sent out with expeditions and voyages of discovery, 3190 Exchanges between the Museum and foreign governments would be advantageous, 319!, 3192- Examination upon dif- ferent passages in the synopsis, and how tar the whole requires revision, 3193-3207. [Second Examination.]— How far the zoological collection is arranged so as to be attractive to the public and useful to the student, and whether improvement might be made, Sd^l-3^6Q Witness had no communication with the architect, or knowledge of Museum; 1 835-] CHI COI 585 Children, John George. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continued. of the space to be allotted to zoology in the new buildings, 3370-3375 Extent to which a general system of classification and nomenclature is adopted, 3376-3378 Extent to which the zoological subjects are actually named, 3379 Specimens in spi- rits are spoken of as one of the finest collections, 3380 Specimens are not now liable to be spoiled for want of room, though many were spoiled before the new buildings were erected, 3381-3383 ^Witness could not have given a detail of the space required for his department if he had been consulted, from the many specimens stowed away which were inaccessible, 3384-3388 Specimens of natural history in spirits are accessible to the public on public days, and to the principal librarian at all times, 3389-3394 Name of the author whose nomenclature is adopted is attached to the specimens, 3395-3397 The scientific name in latin, and the trivial names in English, French and German, should be attached, 3398 The nomenclature adopted by Dr. Leach has been altered by Mr.Konig, and is in a more perfect state than in the time of Dr. Leach, 3399, 3400. Unstuffed specimens for examination would be useful; but as they would be attended with expense, such a suggestion has not been offered to the trustees, 3401, 3402. 3408- 3412 How far the trustees are responsible for the wants of the Museum when those wants are not fairly brought before them, 3403-3407 A catalogue of the collections of zoology, like that of the College of Surgeons, would be useful, but also expensive, and it would be better to wait till the new building allows of more complete arrangement, 3413-3426 An entry book, containing a list of new purchases and presents, with numbers attached, and mentioning the locality from whi6h derived, would be advisable, 3427-34321 There is not sufficient assistance in the zoological department, 3433 Description in the synopsis of the ourang outang and chimpanze, and how far those descriptions adhered to by witness, 3438-3440. Children, Mr. His merits are great; he has done much for science ; he is well versed in several branches of natural history, Konig 2855. Chimpanze. See Synopsis. Christmas Holidays. See fading room. Cinerary Urns. Witness has edited a description thereof, which was commenced by Mr. Combe, iJawHn^ 3451. Circular. Circular to His Majesty's Ministers abroad, dated Foreign-oflSce, 29 October 1834, relative to literary institutions or libraries in foreign countries, and answers, App. p. 446. Clapperton, Captain. See Rock Specimens. Classed Catalogues. See Catalogues of the British Museum, 3. Classen's Library. See Denmark, III, 1. Classics. The Library of the Museum is rich in classics, Ellis 2458. Classification of the Library. Number of copies of the outline of the classification of the library that were printed, and in what manner they were distributed, Ellis 1056-1063 . Sums paid on account of. the publication of a classification of a library, 1821 to 1833, and manner in which the several suras were distributed, Jpp.^. 365- Account showing the number of copies of the outlines of classification of a library, which were printed, and the manner in whfch they have been disposed of, App. ^-565. See also Lee, Mr, Clift,William,^%c{.,v.-&.s. Letter from him to the Rev. J. Forshall, on the subject' of Hawkins's fossils, dated 7 July 1834, App. p. 439. Clowes, George. (Analysis of his Evidence.)^ — Estimate showing the price per copy at which the Synopsis of the British Museum could be printed, according to the description of paper and number of copies, 2769-2794 His estimate and specimens for printing the Synopsis, App- p. 444- Clytie. Witness recommended that this cast should not be moulded from, on account of the risk that might be run, TFesfmacort 3942. Coins and Medals. The coins are mixed in the cases, with labels showing the collection to which they originally belonged, Ellis 575,576^ Duties of the office of keeper, and salary, HawAins 3444-3446 -There is a catalogue of the greater part of the coins, that of the remainder is in progress, Hawkins 3471-3474^ The coins of the late King were catalogued before they came to the Museum, and the catalogue has since been verified with the coins, Hawkins 3497 There is not space in the Museum for allowing the medals and coins to be exhibited both sides at once, HawAzns 3530-3536 Account of the number of applications made to the trustees of the British Museijm (at meetings authorized according to the rules to grant admissions) for the purpose of being admitted to inspect the collections of medals and coins, or any part thereof, 1815 to 1820; number of admissions in consequence of such applications, ^P^-P' 397- „ , ,_. See also Anglo-Gallic Coins. Combe, Mr, Tayhr. Duplicate Books and Coins. English Coins. Greek Coins. Hunter, Dr., Colas of. Medal^ Pembroke, hord. 479- p Coins, 586 CO I COR [British Coins and Medals, Royal Cabinet of. See Denmark, II, 2. Colchester, Lord. See Index to Manuscripts. Cole Collection. To the Cole collection there is more than one full index made by Mr. Cole himself, Ellis 1799. Collections. Offers of, are usually brought under the notice of the trustees by the officers ' of the institution, Ellis 129, 130. 135-137 The plan of keeping collections entire, or disposing of duplicates under the powers of 47 Geo. 3, may be left to the sound discretion of the trustees, Forshall 490-495. See also the different Collections under their respective names. Combe, Mr. Taylor, his Coins. Account of sums expended on Mr. Taylor Combe's cata- logue of coins, 1809 to 1834, put in, Cowtan 2211, App. 419. See also Greek Coins. Committees. Titles of committees of the Board of Trustees of the British Museum, and names of the trustees belonging severally to such committees, App. p. 389. See also Accounts. Visitation. Committee on Affairs of the British Museum. See Evidence. Comparative Anatomy. The superiority of the collection at Paris is owing to the superin- tendence of Baron Cuvier, Forshall 705-708. Conchologicat Collection. System adopted with regard to the arrangement of shells; cause of difficulty in the nomenclature, Konig 2707-2729 The collection of shells is arranged, though not entirely named ; the discovery of later objects prevents the nomenclature of any one work beings strictly followed. Gray 3222-3230 ^The collection of shells in the British Museum is far superior to any other public collection ; enumeration of different foreign collections, Gray 3334-3336 — —Impossibility of adhering to any system of arrangement of classification, from the discoveries of new genera and species in conchology, which are not to be found in any previous work, Graj/ 3337-3353 There are more shells in the Museum than in other collections ; but there are not half the number of species that are in existence. Gray 3357. , See &ho Sritish Freshwater Shells. Leach, D v. Nomenclature.. Conditions of Bequests. Reasons the conditions annexed to the bequests of Mr. Payne Knight, and the Hon. Mr. Damer, were not mentioned in the return made to Parliament, Ellis Sf Forshall 585-589. See also Donations and Bequests. Consuls. It would be desirabhe that they should write to the trustees respecting any valuable specimens that may come under their ,notice. Children 3189 -They have, at great expense and pains, procured living animals for the Zoological Society, Gray 3358. Continent. Manner in which the great museums or libraries on the Continent are con- ducted, -Effis 214-227 Circular from the Foreign Office, and answers , showing the state of libraries, &c. on the Continent, App. p. 446. Contributions. Value of contributions to the Museum within the last twelve yeai^s, Forshall 611. See also Donations and Bequests. Conybeare, Rev. W., f. r. s. Letter from him to the Rev. J. Fdrshall, on the subject of Hawkins's fossils, dated 7 July 1834, App. p. 439. Copenhagen. See Denmark. Copyright Act. See Flora Grteca. Corals and Corallines. There are more in the Museum than in other collections. Gray 3357- Correspondence. Letter from the Rev. J. Forshall to Mr. Millard, dated 17 February 1831, App. p. 426 Another letter, dated 16 June 1831, App. p. 427 Another letter, dated 16 Jan. 1833, App. p. 428 Letter from Banjamin Hawes, esq., to the trustees, dated 10 May 1831, App. p. 426 Letter from Mr. Mijlard to Henry Ellis, esq., dated 7 July 1831, App. p. 427 Note from Mr. Millard to the trustees, dated 7 July 1831, App.p.4Q,'j. Letter from the Rev. H. H.Baberto Sir Henry Ellis, as to persons attending the reading-rooms, dated 26 June 1835, App. p. 428 Another letter, dated 30 June 1825, App. p. 429 Letter from H. T. de la Beche, esq., f. r. s. to the trustees, on the same subject, dated 17 July i8^j, App. p. 440 Letters from the Rev. Dr. Buck- land to the trustees, on the same subject, dated 7, 12 and 20 July 1834, App. p. 441 Letter from the Rev. Dr, Buckland to the Rev. J. Forshall, dated 12 March 1835, on the subject, App. p. 443. Copies of communications made to and received from His Majesty's Ministers abroad, respecting literary institutions or libraries in foreign countries, 1834, 1835, -^PP- P- 446-568. Extract of a letter from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the Right Hon. Lord Farnborou^h, dated 26 June 1834, relative to Mr. Hawkins's fossils, Jpp. p. 437 Letter from the • Rev. J. Forshall to Charles Konig, esq., dated 10 July 1834, on the same subject, App. p. 438 Letter from Gideon Mantell, esq., y. r. s., to the trustees, on the same subject. Museum; 1835.] COR DEN 587 Correspondence — continued. subject, dated 1 1 July 1834, App. p. 439 Letter from the Rev. W. Conybeare, f. r. s. to the Rev. J. Forshall, dated 7 July 1834, on the same subject, jIjj/j. p. 439— — -Letter from W. Ciift, esq., f.e. s., to the Rev. J. Forshall, dated 7 July •1834, "" the same subject, App. p. 439 Letter from Mr. Gates to Sir Henry Ellis, on the same subject, dated 24 June 1836, >lpp. p. 429. Letter from Sir George Beaumont, bart., to the trustees, on the subject of his pictures, dated 17 July 1823, ^^p. p. 430 Letter from Sir George Beaumont to Sir Charles Long, bart. on the same subject, App. p. 431. Letter from Prince Polignac to M. Paul de Fontenay, referred to in Sir H. Ellis's evi- dence, dated 24 August 1829, relative to manuscripts at Pomard, App. p. 432 Note ■ from the Baron de Joursanvauit to Sir Henry Ellis, dated 3 September i82g,App.p. 433, Corunna. Library of the Junta of Commerce at. See Spain, 6. Cottonian Manuscripts. There is a catalogue of the Cottonian manuscripts, Ellis 1797 Hovy far it is incomplete, Forshall 740-743 ^The oath mentioned in the Act 5 Anne, c. 30, to be taken by the librarian to the Cottonian trustees, is not repeated in Act 26 Geo. 2; the librarian is librarian to the trustees generally, Ellis 1031-1037 State of manuscripts in the Cottonian collection that were injured by the fire that originally took place at Cotton House^ Forshall 1105-1121. Cowtan, Mawer. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — Parliamentary grant in 1817, on account of the Alexandrian Manuscript fund; sum paid thereout, 939-945. [Second Examination.] — ^Account relative to Major Edwards's fund, -1082-1088. [Third Examination.] — Sums voted in 1834 for drawings in illustration of the Athenian marbles; sum expended and appropriation of surplus, 1175-1179. [Fourth Examination.] — Sum asked from Parliament on account of the Alexandrian manuscript, and sum expended for that purpose, 1345-1349. [Fifth Examination.] — Papers put in : Account of the objects of natural history, boughtat Mr. Bullock's sale by Dr. Leach; accounts of the sums expended in the publi- cation of the Gallery of Antiquities, and on Mr. Taylor Combe's catalogue of coins, 1809 to 1834 ; statement of Major Edwards's fund, 2211. Cracherode, Mr. See Duplicate Books and Coins. Cremations. Threat of an action by persons in the neighbourhood of the Museum, from the supposition that moths were introduced into their houses by the cremations, Konig 2755. See also Zoological Collection. Crustacea. See Entomological Collection. Natural History, Collection of. Cuvier, Baron. Baron Cuvier had free and unrestrained opportunity of inspection of all the Museum collection, and was also shown a collection not belonging to the Museum, Gray 3235-3239 :His nomenclature is adopted, except in ileviations required by new species and genera, Children 3125 His work does not form the text-book of arrangement in the French Museum, Gray 3233. See also Icthyological Collection. Mammalia. D. Darner, The Hon. Mrs. Her bequest is in the custody of the trustees, Forshall 1651. See&ho Conditions of Bequests. Davy, Sir Humphrey. His knowledge of natural history generally ; of zoology and mine- ralogy, CMdrere 3071. Dz^MAUK : I. Despatch from Minister at Copenhagen. IL Museums at Copenhagen : 1 . Royal Museum of Arts and Antiquities. 2. Royal Cabinet of Coins and Medals. 3. Royal Cabinet of Engravings. 4. Royal Museum of Natural History. 5. Museum of Northern Antiquities, 6. Royal Picture Gallery. IIL Libraries at Copenhagen : 1. Classen's. 2. King's • 3. University. I. Despatch from Minister at Cope nhagen : Despatch from Sir Henry W. W. Wynn to the Duke of Wellington, dated Copen- hagen, 24th March 1835, relative to literary institutions in Denmack, App. p. ^8i. IL Museum at Copenhagen : 1. Royal Museum of Arts and Antiquities : Name of governor ; uncjer what direction ; departments into which divided ; annual expenses, and out of what fund defrayed ; regulations for admission of the public, App. p. 482. * 479. 4 F 2 2. Royal 588 DEN D O U [British Denmark — II. Museums at Copenhagen-^cont\nne6. ; 2. Roi/al Cabinet of Coins and Medals : Government of; departments into which divided; annual expenses; how defrayed ; admission of the public, App. p. 482. 3. Royal Cabinet of Engravings ; Government of; departments into which divided; annual expenses;, how defrayed; institution not yet opened, Jlpp. p. 482. 4. Royal Museum of Natural History : Government of; departments into which divided; annual expenses; funds out of which defrayed ; admission of the public, App.p. 482. 5. Museum of Northern Antiquities : Government of ; departments into which divided; annual expenses, and out of what fund defrayed ; admission of the public, App. p. 482. 6. Royal Picture Gallery : Government of; departments into which divided ; annual expenses ; out of what fund defrayed ; admission of the public, App. p- 482. III. Libraries at Copenhagen : 1. Classen's : Number of librarians; annual expense of books : general annual expenses; how de- frayed ; admission of the public ; names of librarians ; number of volumes of books and manuscripts, Sic, App.p. 483. 2. King's: Number of librarians ; annual expense of books; general annual expenses; fund out of which paid; admission of the public; names of librarians; volumes of books and manuscripts, &c, App. p. 483. 3. University : Number of librarians; annual expense of books; general annual expenses; out of what fund paid ; rules for admission of' the public; names of hbrarians ; number of volumes of books and manuscripts, &c., yipp. p. 483. Dictionaries. See Reading-room. Director-general of Museums. See France, I II, 1 . Disbrowe, Sir Edward C. Despatch from, to Viscount Palmerston, dated Stockholm, 29 July 1835, relative to literary institutions in Sweden, ^pjj. p. 497. District Institutions. See Duplicate Books and Coins. Dodwell's Greek Bronzes. Cause of the rejection of Mr. Dodwell's offer of Greek bronzes of the Archaic style, found near Perugia, and a specimen of gofd ornamental paintint^ belonging to the ex-queen of Naples ; subsequent purchase of the collection by the King of Bavaria, Ellis 1521-1527. Donations and Bequests. The trustees have the power of refusing a donation, Ellis 519, 520 A list of them is annually, made out, and will be found among the dfeposi^ taries in the library of the House of Commons, Forshall 1657, Children Q\6i^^ Articles of value that have been presented to the Museum in the last twenty years, Konig 2795, 2796 An entry-book, containing a list of new purchases and presents, with numbers attached, and mentioning the locality from which derived, would be advisable. Children 3427-3432. General account of all bequests, donations and contributions above the value of lool. made to the British Museum, 1821 to 1833, distinguishing such bequests as have special conditions annexed to them, and stating how far such conditions have been complied with, App. p. 360 Sums paid on account of the publication of the catalogue of donations for 1828, 1821 to 1833, and manner in which the several sums were distributed, j;pp. p. 367— For 1829 and 1830, App.p.^%% Account showing the number of copies of the catalogue of donations for 1828 which were printed and the manner in which they ha^e been disposed of, Jlpp. p.367 — For 1829 and 1830 App. p. 368- . ' &e also Bequests of Collections. Bridgewater, 'Earl of. Conditions of Bequests. ' Darner, Bou. Mrs. Duplicate Books and Coins. East India Company. Boards' Major. Entomological Collection. Hardwicke, General. Hunter, Mr. * Donors, Names of. But few names .of donors are mentioned in the synopsis, being those only who have presented to a considerable extent, CAj'Wrera 3165-3168- Extent to which the names of donors are mentioned in the synopsis ; instances in which they are not attached to the specimens are accidental omissions, CAzVrfrew 3166-3170— -The name of the donor is attached to most insects, Samouelle 3879. Douce, Mr. Difficult to account for Mr. Douce's resigning the office of keeper of the manuscripts; supposed cause of his leaving his own collection to the Bodleian librarv Ellis 1475-1496- ^' Draxmicrg. Museum; 1 835-] DRA ' . ELG ,589 Drawings and Engravings. Sums voted for these purposes are not always specifically applied, Forshall 1211, 1212 Accounts of receipts and payments for: 1825, App. p. 328; 1826, App. p. 2,30 1827, yipp.p.33S 1828, App.p.335 1829, u%j. i>- 338 1830, App. p. 341 1831, App. p. 344 1832, Jpp. p. 347 1833, App. P- 35 1— — 1 834, -A^PP- P- 354- -See also Elgin Marbles, Maps. Prints and Drawings, Dresden. See Saxony. Dresses. The dresses of different nations are for want of space kept in that part of the building appropriated 10 natural history, Hawkins 3443. Dumiril, M. The reptiles and fishes in the French Museum are arranged by him on his own principles, Gray 3233. Duplicate Books and Coins. Any work, although in duplicate, that has been given or bequeathed to the Museum, is not parted with without express authority from the trustees, Ellis <5- Forshall 455-460. 471, 472, ForsJ^all 1098-1102 The constant wear and tear of books renders it necessary that duplicates should be preserved, Ellis 473-480. 507- 515 ^There have been but two sales of duplicate books and two sales of coins since , the 47 Geo, 3, the produce of which is brought to account, and the amount paid into the Bank, Ellis 521-523. There would be no objection in principle to bestowing duplicate books or duplicate objects of curiosity upon district institutions or libraries to be approved by the trustees,- Ellis S; Forshall 565-568 Advantages of selling duplicates over giving them to other institutions ; no objection to presenting them with casts of the coins, Ellis-S; Forshall 578- 584 — |-Plan that would be adopted by the trustees of disposing of duplicates or super- fluous collections in the event of their inconveniently increasing,, which is not the case at present, Forshall 609, 610 Nature of duplicate coins that were sold, Ellis 569, 570 No sale has taken place of any duplicate coins found in the collection of Geo. 4, or Mr. Payne Knight, Ellis 571-574 — Or of Mr. Townley, Ellis 577 — Or Mr. Cracherode, Ellis 570. 577. See also Edwards, Major, Bequest of. English Coins. Greek Coins. Eascaris's Greek Grammar. Perishable Articles. E. East India Company. Presentation to the Museum of a collection of quadrupeds and birds by the East India Company, Konig 2795. Easter Holidays. See Holidays. Reading-rooms. . Edinburgh Advocates' Library. The catalogue thereof is an alphabetical catalogue in ,two, fiplio volumes, Ellis 2497. Edinburgh Review. Witness was examined by the trustees upon an attack being made upon the Museum by the Edinburgh lieview, Samouelle 3812, 3813. 3816-3818. See also Banks, Sir Joseph, Collection of. Egina Marbles. Shane, Sir H. Edinburgh University. See Franklin, Captain. Edzeards's, Major, Bequest. Appropriation by the trustees of Major Edwards's bequest, JEllis ioo6-ioi24 His books have become merged in the general library, Ellis 1025- 1030 His books and pictures are still in possession of the trustees, unless any dupli-. cates have been sold, Ellis 1038-1043 Purchase of Baron Moll's library and minerals with Major Edwards's bequest, Ellis 1089-1097 Account relative to Major Edwards's fund, Cowtan 1082-1088. 2211 1815, App. p. 299 1816, App. p. 302. Egina M^Mes. Means taken by Government to procure the Egina marbles ; failure of the negotiation, and subsequent sale to the King of Bavaria, Ellis 1528-1541 Statement inthe Edinburgh Review respecting the price for which they were sold to the King of Bavaria, Ellis 1529 -Extract from the Report on the Ejgin marbles relative to the same subject, Ellis 1539. Egyptian Antiquities. See Belznni, Mr. France, III, 2. Millengen, Mr. Salt's Egyptian Antiquities. Election. See Scientific Men. Elected Trustees. See Trustees, 3. Elephant. Justification of the act of adding tusks to the skeleton of an elephant presented to^the Museum, Children 3171-3176. Elgin Marbles, Account of the Elgin marbles published by Sir Henry Ellis, and als.o by the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge, Ellis 289, Hawkins 3452-3456 The sum expended for them is not accounted for in the annual accounts, but.is merely mentioned as a note by the trustees, Forshall Q64, 965 Account of expenditure for drawings and engravings of the Elgin marbles, 1834, App. p. 404 Mr. Westmacott's proposal for making moulds from marbles in the Elgin collection, dated 15th Feb. 1817, App. p. 444 Conditions on which the trustees accepted Mr. Westmacott's proposal, App. p. 445 Account of receipts and payments for the Elgin marbles, 1816, App. J9.305, . See also Egina Marbles. Drawings and Engravings. Marbles. Moulds. Potteries. Taste. fVestmacott, Mr. 479. 4 F 3 * Ellis, 590 E L H S. [British Ellis, Sir Henry. (Analysis of his Evidence-)— Principal Librarian of the British Museum, and also holding the office of expenditor. Salary and' duties, and extent of patronage, i_io Origin of the British Museum^ li Number of trustees, and of what descrip- tions, 12 Names of the official trustees, 16 Names of the family trustees, 17 Names of the elected trustees, 18 Family trustees are appointed by Act of Parlia- ment, 19, 20 How far the body of trustees would interfere in the event of an heredi- tary trustee being a minor or an idiot, 21-29 ^The trustee have no veto on the appointment of family 'trustees, 30-32 No limited amount of donation or bequest that will give the donor a claim to appoint a family trustee, 34 Family trustees appointed on the principle that the successors of families should have an opportunity of seeing that the donation or bequest was disposed of in the way the donor intended, 35 The trus- tees now make it a rule not to sell or part with any books, coins or other things, that may have been given to them, 36-43. Mode of electing the elected trustees, and at what place the election held, 46-63 Nature of the attendance of trustees at the Board meetings, 64-74 Nature of the annual visitation by the trustees, 75-83 Visitations and minute examinations occa- sionally take place by sub-committees, 84-86 By Act g Geo. 4, the trustees have the power of holding e'states'in land, 87, 88- Within what period after the death or resig- nation of a trustee vacancies are filled up, 89 High literary attainments of the trus- tees shows them to be amply qualified for the office, 92-117 The patronage of the Museum is confined to the three principal trustees, 118-121 Mode adopted by the trustees when scientific collections are offered for sale, 128—130 Mr. Konig, the mine- ralogical curator, was consulted upon the purchase of Mr. Hawkins's fossils, 131-134 Collections aie usually brought under the notice of the trustees by the officers of the institution, 129, 130. 135-137. The office of elected trustee is considered the blue ribbon of literature ; it would not be a greater advantage to the-institution that men of science should be elected instead of the present trustees, 138-154 Qualifications of trustees elected in 1753, 155-159 — • — Names of trustees who have been appointed, but not for their works on literature or science, 160-169 The trustees do not make purchases of collections above the value of 1,200/. or 1,500/.; mode adopted of applying to Parliamepl, and evidence lakea before the Committees of the House of Commons, 171-191 -Opinion in favour of taking the evidence of scientific men, when occasion requires, rather than having scientific men at the Board, whose opinions might have undue weight, 122-127. 192-200 Bequests of collections to the Museum have not generally been by men who were great writers; they have been men of fortune, 201-209 ^Donation of works of value to the Museum does not constitute any ground for the selection of trustees, 210 The advice of scientific men, who are consulted previous to purchasing collections, is usually taken, 211-213. [Second Examination.] — Manner in which the grfeat museums or libraries on the Con- tinent are conducted, 214-217 Literary qualifications of the director-general of museums in France, 218—222 Circumstances under which the original nomination of trustees for the British Museum took place, 223-225^ Cause of the Presidents of the Royal Academy, and of the Society of Antiquaries, being appointed official trustees, 226, 227 Names of the curators of the several literary and scientific institutions in Paris, and whether selected for their knowledge of science and literature, 228-236 Difficulty of forming an opinion as to the result of placing the British Museum under a board composed of heads of departments, under the control of the Secretary of State for the Home Department, 237, 238 Difference betweeli the British Museum and the Jardin des Plantes in Paris, 239-241 Imperfect collection of subjects for natural history in the British Museum, 242-244 The trust of the British Museum is as faithfully and as perfectly administered as such an institution will allow, 245. Royal ordonnance of I832, relative to the conduct of the Paris library, 246, 247 Comparison of the mode of conducting the Paris library and that of the British Museum, showing the greater facilities of thelattePi 246-251 ^Days of the week the public are admitted to the British Museum ; necessity for Saturday being devoted to cleaning, 252- 266—^ — Appointment and duties of the principal librarian, his hours of attendance are not limited, 267-270 — ; — When books or manuscripts are taken out of the Museum to be given in evidence, the officer of the department receives a similar fee to that received by a solicitor, 273 Fees for transcripts are not taken unless the officer makes the trans- cript, 275-280 Salary received by witness as joint secretary to the Society of Anti- quaries ; the duties do not interfere with those of librarian to the Museum, 281-284 The remuneration to witness for editing the extent of Welsh Manors, or the Welsh Domesday, for the Record Commission, will be according to the value the commission set on the work, 285-288. Account of the Elgin marbles, written by witness for the Society of Useful Knowledge, 289 Being a member of the committee of that society does not interfere with wit- ness's duties at the Museum, 289-292-^ — Emoluments of the secretary ; that office has not for any length of time been held conjointly with that of principal librarian, 294-304 —Whether the duties of secretary and keeper of the manuscripts are efficiently dis- charged, the offices being held conjointly, 305-327 Witness and other chiefs of departments have not seats at the Board by virtue of their offices, 328-331 The secre- tary always attends the Board, 329, 330-^^ No officers of the Museum hold appoint- ments, Museum ; 1835.] ELLIS. 591 Ellis, Sir Henry. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continued. ments which take them away from it during the hours that ought to be devoted to its service, 332-336-^ — No officers of the Museum have been appointed sinch March 1833 ; clerks bave been employed for temporary purposes, 337-345. The officers of each department give security for the integrity of the different collec- tions ; the inferior officers do not give security though appointed by the principal trustees, 346^-351 Every officer makes a report at the time of the annual visitation, 352 — r-^ Nature of the annual visitation, besides which the trustees make inspections when the}' think proper, 353-359 The responsibility of se'eing that the officers effectually dis- charge their duty devolves upon witness, 361-363— ^Vacancies are filled up by the three principal trustees ; manner in which publicity is given to the fact of a vacancy, 364-369 The principle of promotion is acted on in the establishment, 370, 371 — — Scale of salaries, and S3'stem of daily pay to literary gentlemen, and advantages of the system, 372-376 Class of persons the attendants are selected from, their salaries, qualifications and duties, 378-401 Foreigners are shown the Museum by a sufficiently qualified attendant, 402 Officers of the establishment who are conversant with accounts, 403, 404. Ellis, Sir Henry, [Third Examination], and the Rev. Josiah Forshall. (Analysis of their Evidence.) — No inconvenience attends the practice of chiefs of departments when summoned before the trustees being kept standing, 406-422 Nature of the negocia- lion entered into with Mr. Brown, by lyhich the Museum became possessed of Sir Joseph Banks's collection, and gave Mr. Brown an appointment, 425-433 Collections are kept separate and distinct when there are stipulations to that effect in wills, 434-436- Bequest of Mr. White is in reversion, dependant on two lives ; reason the mention of it was omitted in a return presented to the House of Commons, 438-441 Nature of the exchange, and consideration given by the Museum to the Royal Society, for the Arundel manuscripts, 443-454 Any work, although in duplicate, that has been given or be- queathed to the Museum, is not parted with, 455-460. 471, 472 King George the Third's library, given by King George the Fourth to the Museum, is kept whole and entire, 461-466. The object of not parting with bequests in duplicate is to encourage gifts and bequests from other parties, 467-471 The constant wear and tear of books renders it necessary that duplicates should he preserved, 473-480. 507-515 Advantages of keeping col- lections that are bequeathed to the Museum entire, over classing them in a general library, 481-490 The plan of keepirig collections entire, or disposing of duplicates under the powers of 47 Geo. 3, may be left to the sound discretion of the trustees, 490- 495 Advantages which the British Museum derives from King George the Third's library; money value of the 'books; when at the palace, access to it could only be ob- tained by leave of His Majesty, or through the influence of the librarian, 496-506 Trustees have the power of refusing, a donation, 5I9, 520^ There have been but two sales of duplicate books and two sales of coins since the 47 Geo, 3, the produce of which is brought to account, and the amount paid into the Bank, 521-523. Value paid for the Arundel manuscripts, and why the amount was not mentioned in the annual returns to Parliament, 524-528 Bequests of pictures have not been sold ; they are placed in the Mineral Gallery, 529-537.557-564 Custody of the pictures^ presented by Sir George Beaumont to the British Museum h^s been transferred to the National Gallery, though the ownership still remains in the trustees of the Museum, 538-556 There would be no objection in principle to bestowing duplicate books or duplicate objects of curiosity upon district institutions or libraries, to be approved by the trustees, 565-568 Nature of duplicate coins that were sold, 569-570 No sale has taken place of any duplicate coins found in the collection of Geo-. 4, or of Mr. Payne Knight, 571-574 Or of Mr.Towneley, 577 Or of Mr. Ctacherode, 570. 577 The coins are mixed in the cases, with labels showing the collection to which they ori- ginally belonged, 575,576 Advantages to be gained by the Museum selling duplicate coins over giving them to other institutions ; there is no objection to presenting those institutions with casts of the coins, 578-584. Reasons the conditions annexed to the bequests of Mr. Payne Knight and the Hon. Mrs. Damer were not mentioned in the return made to Parliament, 585-589 The col- lection of pictures bestowed on the Museum by the Rev. Hoi well Carr, are with Sir George Beaumont's in the National Gallery, 590-593 The offer of any collection for sale is laid before the trustees, 594, 595 Officers sometimes make purchases of small value, which, if not confirmed by the trustees, are returned upon their hands, 596-598 Purchase of the Ely manuscripts .recognised with thanks by the trustees ; amount paid for it, and commercial value, 599-602 Estimate of the expenditure for the ensu- ing year laid before the trustees previous to applying to Parliament for the annual grant, 603-605: — —Contents of the Bruce manuscripts, and cause of the purchase being rejected by the Museum, 606-608. ' Ellis, Sir Henry. [Fourth Examination.] — Appropriation of part of the Parliamentary grant of 1817 for the Alexandrian fund, to the general purposes of the Museum, 946- 949- [Fifth Examination.] — Appropriation by the trustees of Major Edwards's bequest, 1006 -1024— — His books have become merged in the general library i' 1025-1030 The 479. 4 F 4 " ' oath 592 ELLIS. [British Ellis, Sir Henry. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continued. oath mentioned in the Act 5 Anne, c. 30, to be taken by the librarian to the Cottonian trustees, is not repeated in Act 26 Geo. 2 ; the librarian is librarian to thetrustees gene- rally, ] 031-1037 ^Major Edwards's books and pictures are still in possession of the trustees, unless any duplicates have been sold, 1038-1043 Cause of the trustees entertaining the intention of keeping great bequests entire, 1044-1046. Opinion that the Act 26 Geo. 2 entirely superseded the Act of Anne, 1047-1050 About the year 1812, vphoever presented the accounts to Parliament signed them, 1050, 1051 Number of copies of the Synopsis and Museum publications printed, and num- ber of copies sold, 1052-10,55 Number of copies of the outlines of the classification of the library that were printed, and in what manner they were distributed, 1056-1063 Means taken by the trustees to get their printing done at the lowest rate ; names of printers employed by the Museum, 1065-1074. [Sixth Examination.]— Purchase of Baron Moll's library and minerals, with Major Edwards's bequest, 1089-1097. [Seventh Examination.] — Number of copies of the Synopsis printed, profit to the trustees, and whether advisable to reduce the price, 1148-1157 ^Expense of spirits of wine, &c. for preserving subjects of natural history, 1159-1161 Expense of freight, &c. on import of books, 1162-1165. [Eighth Examination.] — Cause of sums being asked for one purpose and expended on another, 1350, 1351 Sums asked for the Athenian marbles for some years past, and 'there being no expenditure for that purpose has been accidental, 1353-1357 Balance from the Alexandrian manuscripts was accounted for to Parliament, and went towards the supplies of the following year, 1358, 1359. [Ninth Examination.]— Particulars as to journey to Pomard, near Beaune, in France, to inspect the collection of the Baron de Joursanvault, in answer to the charges of Sir Harris Nicolas against witness ; cause of the collection not being purchased, and show- ing that the Museum have since obtained all that was valuable from that collection, 1387-1449 Mr. Bruce's manuscripts were not purchased on account of the extrava- gant price asked for them, 1450-1466 Cause of Mr. Gough leaving his books and manuscripts to the Bodleian Library, 1467-1474 Difficult to account for Mr. Douce's resigning the office of keeper of the manuscripts; supposed cause of his leaving his manuscripts to the Bodleian Library, 1475-1496. Purchase of Mr. Salt's Egyptian antiquities by the British Museum, price paid for them, and purchase of the alabaster sarcophagus by Sir John Soane, 1497-1517- Disposal by Mr. Salt of a second collection of Egyptian antiquities to the French government, 1518-1520 Cause of the rejection of Mr. Dodwell's offer of Greek bronzes of the Archaic style found near Perugia, and a specimen of gold ornamental painting belonging to the ex-queen of Naples; subsequent purchase of the collection by the King of Bavaria, 1521-1527 Means taken by Government to procure the Egina marbles; failure ol the negotiation, and subsequent sale to the King of Bavaria, 1528- 1541 Dr. Hunter's coins were bequeathed to go to Glasgow, where they form part of the Hunterian Museum, 1542, 1543. Trustees did all they could to get Lord Pembroke's coins in 1828, but the Treasury W'ould not advance the money, 1544-1550 Amount paid for Mr. Sams' collection in 1834, 1551-1559 -Rejection of Mr, Simcoe's collection of prints, and subsequent sale by auction, at which they fetched a higher price than offered by the Museum, 1560- 1509 Rejection of Mr. Upcote's offer of manuscripts, 1573-1577 — —-How far the trustees arm themselves with evidence as to value, previous to any application to Parliament for a grant above 2,000 /. for the purchase of any curiosity, 1578-1581. [Tenth Examination.]— Expenses of journey to Pomard, 1582,1583 Answer to the charge in the Edinburgh Beview of 1823, relative to the transfer to the College of Siirgeons by the Museum of a portion of Sir Joseph Banks's collection, the subsequent sale by auction, and repurchase by the Museum, 1584-1619 Sir Hans Sioane's herbarium' is in as perfect a state as Sir Joseph Banks's,- if not more so, 1626 1621 Application by Mr. Gough to allow some copper-plates to be deposited at the Museum for safety ; consent of the trustees, and no further notice taken by Mr. Gousih 1622 1623-— Further evidence as to Mr. Simcoe's bequest, and its realizing more by auctioi; than It was offered to the British Museum for, 1624-1628. au^-nuu [Eleventh Examination.]-The reading-room is not sufficiently capacious, or so well ventilated as it oug-fat to be, 1658-1 661-— Name of the superintendent of the reading- room 1662-1665- The old rule of the Museum, requiring the attendance of one Sf the librarians in the reading-room has been superseded, his attendance being considered a misapplication of time, 1666-1675- No difficulty has ever occurred to foreigners iri the library, from the want of persons with whom they could communicate, 1676-168"? •-—Description of catalogues that are placed in the reading-room, 1684, 168s Bv whom the classed catalogue of the King's library was made; extent to which it is a classed catalogue 1686-1689 The completion of an alphabetical catalogue is more essential than a classed catalogue, the latter being only occasionally useful, 1600-1604 -— T.,e classed catalogue^has been discontinued, partly on the ground of expense, and partly from the necessity of completing the alphabetical catalogue, 1605-1700. The titles made in forming the classed catalogue are now being used in forming the alphabetical Museum ; 1835.] ELLIS. 593 Ellis, Sir Henry. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continued. alphabetical one, but are so marked as to be easily transferred when the work of the classed catalogue is renewed, 1701-1720 The two works could not be performed simultaneously with the same quickness, 1721 The trustees may contemplate forming a classed catologue, but it is doubtful whether they intend printing it, 1722 There have been no formal complaints of the state of the library, 1723 Names of gentlemen employed on the alphabetical catalogue ; if those gentlemen, required additional attend- ance it would be immediately granted them, 1724-1751— — Difference of opinion with regard to the modes of classification in catalogues, but still a classed catalogue is desirable, 1754-1763 Mr. Home's outline of classification, was extremely good, as well as elaborate, but he has changed his mind as to various portions of it, 1765-1773 Very great expense of a classed catalogue far the Museum, 1774 A librarian who does his duty supplies the place of a classed catalogue, which from its nature cannot be perfect, ] 775-1778- The expense is one of the chief considerations in forming a classed catalogue, from the necessity of employing persons properly qualified, and from the expedition required to ensure uniformity of design, 1779-1790 The additions to the library have doubled the bulk of the catalogue published in 1819, the additions are continued in manuscript, 1791-1795 Names of catalogues of manuscripts with indexes, 1797-1799 Num- ber of volumes of lexicons, dictionaries and encyclopedias in the reading-room, one half of which have been added of late years, 1800, 1801 Appropriation of the great room in the Royal library as a reading-room would cause the books to be turned out of the library to make room for those of the reading-room ; two new reading-rooms are pre- paring, 1802, 1803 Means of procuring admission to the reading-room; recom- mendations usually required, particularly with regard to foreigners, 1804-1806 Index to the manuscripts commenced at the recommendation of Lord Colchester ; employment of Mr. John Millard thereon for three years, to the satisfaction of witness, 1807-1822. [Twelfth Examination.] — Lord Colchester's wish that an index to the manuscripts should be made, as a classed catalogue was out of the question, 1873-1877 Recom- mendation .of Mr. Millard by Lord Colchester through Mr. Home, 1S78-1881 Por- tion of the work Mr. Millard was employed on was of an inferior character; period of time in which he might have qualified himself for the more difficult portion, 1882-1896 Requisite qualifications for a person to make a classed index to manuscripts, 1897- 1906 Witness had no occasion to find fault with Mr. Millard while under his super- intendence, 1907-1915 His irregular attendance and inefficiency after witness left the Manuscript department ; his discharge by the trustees, and assistance given him by wit- ness in the shape of a memorial, to procure his remaining in their service for two"*years after he was discharged, 1916-1933. Mr. Millard came recommended by Lord Colchester and Mr. Home, from having been employed upon a General Index to the Reports of the House of Commons, from 1715 to 1801, 1934-1943 He did not latterly do justice to his recommendations, 1944-1949 Witness had not means of knowing Mr. Millard's knowledge of languages, 1950- 1964- Appointment of Mr. Forsh^U by the trustees as assistant in the Manuscript de- partment, without any communication with witness as head of the department, 1969-1979 No disadvantage has hitherto arisen from assistants being appointed without con- sulting the heads of departments, 1980, 1981 Complaints by Mr. Millard of not liking to serve under his new principal, 1982-1989. Ill-health and irregularity of attendance of Mr. Millard after Mr. Forshall's appointment; his irregularity became generally the talk of the Museum, I990-2010 The memorial was suggested by witness with a view to give Mr.Millard the chance of remaining in some situation iti the Museum, 2011-2029 ■ Kindness to Mr. Millard caused witness not to represent his conduct to the trustees, and induced him to suggest the drawing up of the memorial, 2030-2065 Witness is generally consulted upon dismissals taking place, but this was a discontinuance of a labour and not a dismissal, 2066-2069. [Thirteenth Examination.] — Officers living within the walls of the Museum wtould be allowed to take home manuscripts, 2342, 2343 The index to the manuscripts will not be continued till the catalogues are revised, 2346-2348. [Fourteenth Examination.]— Witness did lend Mr. Millard Spelman's Archaismus Graphicus, that he might become acquainted with the contractions in manuscript writing, 2351- [Fifteenth Examination.]— To what extent there are classed catalogues in the foreign libraries, 2399-2418 Number of volumes in the library of the British Museum, 2419- 2423 The titles copied for the classed catalogue, which are now being used for the alphabetical catalogue, will be again used for the classed catalogue when the labour is resumed, 2424-2431 Progress might have been made in the classed catalogue if the powerful assistance possessed by the Museum had been brought to bear upon it, 2432- 2437 ^ complete alphabetical catalogue was a pressing want, 2437-2439 Parlia- mentary grant for the classed catalogue, 2440-2442 The index to titles and authors annexed to a classed catalogue, is not like an alphabetical catalogue superadded to a classed catalogue, 2443-2450. 479. 40 h 594 ELL EVE [British Ellis, Sir Henri/. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continued. It might have been a matter of importance to the public that the two catalogues should have been proceeded with conjointly, but the catalogue establishment must have been doubled, and the alphabetical catalogue is of decidedly the greatest importance, 2451- 2456' Branches of literature in which the Museum library is richest, 2457-2470 Names of private and local institutions having classed catalogues, but which are small compared with that of the Museum, and some of them are very badly done, 2471-2484 Names of classed catalogues of foreign libraries of former years, 2485-2489 A classed catalogue is a work of second rate importance ; an alphabetical one is the first consideration, 2490, 2491 Date of the last catalogue in the Royal Library at Paris; great quantity of books therein that are uncatalogued, 2493-2495 A librarian sup- plying the place of a classed catalogue is not so advantageous as a written catalogue would be, 2500-2503 A. classed catalogue is very desirable, but is not a matter of the greatest moment with literary men, 2504-2512. If the two catalogues are done conjointly, the establishment must be increased, for the i, persons engaged on it must be entirely devoted to it, 2514-2517 -To what extent wit- ness is responsible for the publication of the Synopsis; those who are answerable for errors are those who write the particular article, 2518-2528 In whose hands the copy- right of the various catalogues published at the expense of the trustees, and also of those not so published, is vested, 2529 Persons who are responsible for different por- tions of the Synopsis, 2536-254!. Ell/ Manuscript. Purchase of the Ely manuscript recognised with thanks by the trustees ;, amount paid for it, and commercial value, Forshall 599-602. Encyclopedia. See Reading-room. English Drama. The library of the Museum is rich in English drama, Ellis 2458. English Coins. There was a considerable sale of duplicate English coins, EMs 570. Engravings. See Drawings and Engravings. , Engravings, Royal Cabinet of. See Denmark, II, 3. Engravings, Collection of. See Saxony. Entomological Collection. Arrangement of the insects, mode of admission to view them, Konig 2730-2735 Small amount of the sum annually expended thereon prevents its being as perfect as some foreign collections, Konig 2738-2742, Samouelle 3791-3798. 39P5 Extent to which witness is answerable for the entomological collection, CAiV- rfren 3044-3046 Witness has no assistance in bis department; nature of the assist- ance that would be useful to him, Samouelle 3758-3768 Extent to which the Crus- tacea, &c. under witness's charge, are named, numbered and catalogiied, Samouelle 3769- 3776 The collection is in very fair condition, Samouelle 3794 State of the collec- tion of Crustacea and insects in 1821 and at present, Samouelle ^SQi, 3863 Number of species which the catalogue at present contains, Samouelle 3774. The system of the authors best known is adopted by witness with regard to arrangement and nomenclature, Samouelle 3788-3790 The name of witness's office should be de- fined, he having been told he is not an officer of the Museum, Samouelle 3780-3787 There have been but few collections of insects purchased within the last 14 years, Samouelle 379973804 The collection has been increased since witness was appointed, itwas in fine condition then, Samouelle 3823 Particulars as to the purchase and donations of insects since 1821, Samouelle 3864 How far witness's labours in the entomological collection have been directed by the heads of the natural hist-ory department, and how far witness considers himself responsible, Samouelle 3865,3866 There is sufficient ground for forming the entomological collection into a distinct department, Samouelle 3871-3873 The collecition is being continually referred to, Samouelle 3898. See aho British Collection of Entomology. Hunter, Mr. MelleyjlSlLx, Sloane,^\x H. Entomology. Works on entomology published by witness, Samouelle 3756, 3757 More valuable results will be derived from insects when there is a better acquaintance with their habits and manners, Samouelle ^.^Q-j Foreign^countries in which entomoloo-y has been extensively pursued as a branch of natural history, Samouelle ^Sgg, 3900 -Encourage- ment of the study, so as to make it bear on arts or medicine, is better left to the views of private individuals, Samouelle zgoi, ^qoq. Experiments must be tried in the livin? state, which could not be done at the Museum, Samouelle 3903 Difficulty of obtainiul insects in the same locality in different years, Samouelle 3904. See also Library. Entry Bool: See Donations and Bequests. Estimates. Estimates of expenditure of the Museum, 1812 to 1835, App. p. 295-355. See also Expenditure. Parliamentary Grants. European History. The Library of the Museum is extremely rich in the history of Euroae Ellis 245S. ' ' Evening Admission. Objections to the library or reading-room being opened of an evenine i^brs^a// 1287-1314. , Evidence Museum; 1835.] EVI FOR 595 Evidence. That taken before the Committee, submitted to the House, with a recommen- dation on the expediency of appointing a committee next session, for the purpose of pur- suing and completing the inquiry. Rep. p. 3 Numerous points in the Evidence require - explanation, but which, as it would cause delay, will be declined, on the understanding that the inquiry will be recommended to be renewed next session, Forshall 4007-4009. See also Fees. Exchanges. Exchanges between the Museum and foreign governments would be advanta- geous, Children^igi, 3192. Exotic Birds. See Ornithological Collection. Perishable Articles. Expeditions. See Naturalists^ Richardson, Dr. Zoological Society. Expenditure. Estimate of the expenditure for the ensuing year, laid before the' trustees pre- vious to applying to Parliament for the annual grant, Ellis S; Forshall 603-605 Accounts of, on the publication of the fac-simile of the Alexandrian manuscripts, from ' 1814 to 1818, App.p. 402 For engravings of the Elgin and Townley marbles, 1834, App. p. 404.—^ — See also Income and Expenditure. Natural History Department. Experiments. There is no place in the Museum for a laboratory or place to try experiments in natural history,, Konig 2816-2823- A chemical laboratory woiild be desirable. Children 3152-3160 Why there would be no real benefit in giving each department apparatus for making experiments. Gray 3271-3274. See also Entomology. Extra Service. Whyi extra service money is not distinguished from salary in the accounts laid before Parliaiment; nature and origin of extra service, jFowAa/Z 971-981. F. Family Trustees. See Trustees, 5. Fees. When books or manuscripts are taken out of the Museum, to be given in evidence, the officer of the department receives a similar fee to that received by a solicitor, Ellis 273. Fighting Gladiator. Injury that has been done to this statue in the Louvre, from fre- quent and unskilful moulding, Westmacott 3942. Finance, Sub-Committee of. See Accounts. Fishes. See Dumeril, Mr. Ichthyology. Flora Grtzca. Failure of an action brought by the Museum, under the Copyright Act, to obtain possession of this work, jBrowM 3678-3681. Florence. See Seymour, G. H. Tuscany. Forbes, Hon, F. R. Despatch from, to Viscount Falmerston, dated Dresden, 12 May 1835, relative to literary institutions in Saxony, App.p. 494. Foreign Countries. See Entomology. Foreign Governments, See Exchanges. Foreign Libraries. No foreign library of great extent has printed a catalogue of late years, Ellis 1752 Classed catalogues do not exist in foreign libraries, Ellis 1764 To what extent there are classed catalogues in the foreign libraries, Ellis 2399-2418- — Kames of ' classed catalogues of foreign libraries of. former years, Ellis 2485-2489- Communica tions made to and received from His Majesty's ministers abroad, respecting literary insti- tutions or libraries in foreign countries, 1834, 1835, App. p. 446. Foreign Literary Institutions. See Belgium. Bibliothhque Imperiale Publique a St. Peters- bourg. BibliotMque Royal a Paris. Continent. Denmark. France. Frankfort. Jardin des Plantes. Louvre. Luxembourg. Russia. Sardinia. Saxony. Sicily. Spain, Sweden. Switzerland. Tuscany. Wirtemberg. Foreigners. Are shown the Museum by a sufficiently qualified attendant, Ellis 402^ Are admitted to the Museum at all times, whether in September or otherwise, Forshall 1272. 1274 No difficulty has ever occurred to foreigners in the library, fioni the want of persons with whom they could communicate, Ellis 1676-1683. See also Reading-room. Formatore or Moulder. How far it would be advisable to establish an office of moulder in the Museum, Hawkins 3523-3526 ^There is one in the Louvre appointed by the government, Sarti 3596 Regulations with regard to the office, S'ar^i 3613 In the event of the appointment of one at the Museum casts could be obtained as cheap in London from antique statues as they can be obtained in Rome, Sarti 3629-- — A moulder being attached to the Museum would not cause the public to be supplied with better and cheaper casts than they now obtain, Hawkins 3841 -The appointment of a moulder under competent superintendence, with a proper place for working, would be a great advantage in improving public taste by the circulation of good casts at a cheap rate, Westmacott 3943-3952 Appointing a moulder to the Museum would be a dangerous , thing, as many statues would suffer very much from being moulded, Westmacott 3942. 479. 4 G 2 Forshall) 596 F O R S H A L L. British Forshall, The Rev. J. (Second Examination.) — [For First Examination, see Ellis, Sir H., Second Examination.] — Plan that would be adopted by the trustees of disposing of duplicates or superfluous collections in the event of their inconveniently increasing, which is not the case at present, 609, 610 Value of contributions to the Museum within the last twelve years, 611 The Museum is well constituted as the great national storehouse of materials for literature, art and science, for assisting persons engaged in those pursuits, 612-618 Constitution of the literary and scientific institutions of Paris, 621 Com- parison between the political constitution and government of France, showing why the system of management of literary institutions in France would not suit the Museum, and doubts whether the Museum does not surpass the institutions in France, 622, 623 ^ Whether the zoological collection in the Museum is not equally conducive to the interests of science as that in the Jardin des Plantes, although the collections in the latter are more extensive, 624-632 There has been of late years a greater attention on the part of the public to literary and scientific pursuits; symptoms of an increased desire on the part of > the Government to comply with the wishes or the public in that respect, 632-636. Sums annually expended by the government of France for literary and scientific pur* poses, 637-642 Trustees, who are men of science and literature, with wealth and rank attached, are better calculated for the office than those who make literature or science • a profession, 643-693 Comparison as to whether the Government of England or the Government of France has done most for the encouragement of knowledge within the last 25 years, 694-698 Neither the situation of trustees or officers of the Museum should be given as rewards ; there are duties to be performed in both cases, 699-702- Literature is protected by the introduction into the trust of the heads of all the learned professions, the church, the law and physic, 703, 704 Superiojrity of the collection of comparative anatomy at Paris is owing to the superintendence of Baron Cuvier, 705- 708 Trustees of the British Museum who have an earnest desire to promote literature, art and science, conjointly, are better than those of very eminent scientific acquirements only, 709-713. Evils that would aris^ from the presence of men particularly eminent in any branch of science among the trustees, 714-718 Amount of salary as keeper of the manuscripts, duties of the office, and extent of assistance employed, 719-727 The office of secre- tary and keeper of the manuscripts being held by the same petson, does not impait the efficiency of the duties of either, 728-733 Observations by Sir Harry Nicolas, that the catalogues of the Harleian, Lansdowne and Cottonian manuscripts are often erroneous, and generally unsatisfactory, 734-738 The catalogue of the Harleian manuscripts is more brief than desirable, but is a very fair catalogue, and as good a one as there is of most foreign collections, 738, 739 How far the catalogue of the Cottonian manu- scripts, and the index to it, are incomplete, 740-743 Number of printed and manu- script catalogues there are in the Museum, with and without indexes, 744-749. General index to the manuscripts is desirable, but not essentially necessary; cause of the one that was begun being abandoned, 750-761 Ill-health caused the gentlemen employed on that index to be inefficient, 756-7S0 Salary paid witness as Hbrarian of the Bridgewater manuscripts, 781-788 Printed catalogue of the Arundel manuscripts published last year ; reason an index v/as not published with it, 789-794 To whom copies of the Arundel catalogue have been given ; some have been sold, 795-797. [Third Examination.] — Examination in answer to the remarks in Sir Harris Nicolas's pamphlet, on the catalogue of the Harleian collection, 798-805 By whom the accounts of the Museum are audited, and the returns laid before Parliament made, 806- 825 — r-Sources of income of the Museum for general purposes, 826- Names of pub- lications sold by the Museum, 827, 828 Portion of time occupied by witness in his duties of keeper of the manuscripts and secretary to the Museum, 830, 831 Wit- ness's duties as chaplain of the Foundling Hospital, 832, 833 Peculiar duties of the keeper of manuscripts; that office may be held compatibly with that of secretary, 834- 861^ The names of gentlemen composing catalogues are affixed to them, 862, 863 By whom assistants in the manuscript department are recommended and appointed, 864-867. Nature of the qualifications required for a keeper of manuscripts, 868-872 -Means taken for obtaining the best qualified candidates in the manuscript department, 873 Salaries "of the officers of the Museum are not sufficiently liberal, 884-888 There has been a greater increase of assistance in the manuscript department than in others 889 It is from choice thai, Mr. Konig, the head of the department for natural history^ writes the labels to be placed on the minerals with his own hand, 890-893. 899. 900 In the event of assistance being required in any department, whether the influence of the secretary or the head of the department would have the greater weight in the recom- mendation of a competent individual, 894-897 Mr. Konig's opinion upon the pur- chase of Mr. Hawkms's fossils, 901-906 Nature and use of the annual visitation of the trustees, 910-919. [Fourth Examination.]— Mode of auditing the annual accounts of the Museum by the sub-committee of finance, 920-927 Special grants made by Parliament are not entered in the accounts, as not going through the trustees' hands, 929-934 Reason the sums^ received by the trustees in 1833 on account of exchanges with the Royal Society for the Arundel manuscripts were not mentioned in the returns to Parliament, 950-959 Further evidence as to supposed omissions of receipt and appropriation in accounts laid before Parliament, 962-970- — Why extra service money is not distin- guished Museum; i835.] FORSHALL. 597 Forshall, Rev. J. (Analysis of his Evidence) — continued. guisbed from salary in the accounts laid before Parliament ; nature and origin of extra service, 971-981 Variance between the accounts returned to Parliament in 1833 ^"d the annual accounts, and cause thereof, 982-1005. [Fifth Examination.] — Mr. Woodfall's estimate for printing the Arundel collection, • 493- Franklin, Captain. Distribution of the collection of birds made on his voyage among the Zoological Society, the Museum of the Edinburgh University, the Plj'mouth Museum, and to the naturalist who edited the works, Gray 3358. See also Richardson, Dr. RocA Specimens. - Zoological Society. Freight. Expense thereof on import of books, Ellis ] 162-1165. French Language. It is not necessary that the attendants should speaik French ; there are several who do, Ellis 400, 401. French Museum. See Saurians. Funds. Account of funds of the British Museum, 1812 to 1835, App. p. 294-355. G. Gems. There is a manuscript catalogue of the gems, Hawkins 3470. Geology. It is indispensably necessary that a collection should be formed, showing the geological formation of each English district, Konig 2694-2696. Glasgow, See Hunter, Dr., Coins of. , Gold. See Peruvian Gold. Gough, Richard, Esq. Cause of his leaving his books and manuscripts to the Bodleian Library, Ellis 1467-1474 Application by Mr. Gough to allow some copper-plates to be deposited at the Museum for safety; consent of the trustees, and no further notice taken by Mr. Gough, Ellis 1622, 1623 Minute of the trustees, dated 18 February 1804, relative to a letter from Richard Gough, esq., App. p. 413- Gould, Mr. Is considered to be the best bird-stufFer, Children 3150. Government. Government might, through the various means in their power, both diplo- matic and military, obtain valuable specimens for the Museum from all parts of the . world, Konig 2841 -Individual members have occasionally made presents to the Museum, Gray 3360 — ^The Government departments have ntft afforded the Museum 479. 404 that 000 GOV G R E [Britisfi Government — continued. that assistance which as a national museum it had a right to expect, Qray 3358-3360 Advantage if Government veere to give occasional assistance in the publication of memoirs on objects of science. Brown 3736, 3737 Regret that the collections made by King's officers accompanying expeditions do not come to the Museum, Samouelle , .3834 Government should give directions to naval and military officers, and foreign residents to make collections, Samouelle 3912 Desirable that Government should occasionally purchase works of classical sculpture, IFes^wzaco^ 3974.3975 Government patronage would do much to elevate public taste, and advance the arts, Westmacott 4006. See also Egina Marbles. Literary and Scientific Pursuits. Monuments. Granville, Earl. Despatch from him to Viscount Palmerston, dated Paris, 3 November 1834, relative to literary institutions in France, App. p. 487 Another despatch on the same subject, dated 31 August 1835, App.p. 523. Grants. See Parliamentary Grants. Gray, John Edward. (Analysis of his Evidence.)— Salary as extra assistant in tlie natural history department, 3208-3210 Duties of the office, 3211, 3212 Extent to which the arranging and naming has gone ; constant new accessions render it impossible for such a collection to be ever said to be finished; 3213, 3214 ^The time occupied in aiving information to visitors requiring it, prevents the work of arrangement going on speedily, and the person making the arrangement is the most fit person to give informa- tion, 3215-3218 Previous arrangements are necessarily altered upon considerable acquisitions taking place, and also upon removals, 3219, 3220 Difficulties might be better overcome with more assistance, 3221 The collection of shells is arranged, though not entirely named ; the discovery of later objects prevents the nomenclature of any one work being strictly followed, 3222-3230 Collections being arranged and named according to the views of the officer arranging them, is necessary' to show the advances made by science, 3231-3233 Arrangements in the French Museum are according to the views of those having charge, of the several departments, 3233, 3234. Baron Cuvier had free and unrestrained opportunity of inspection of all the Museum collection, and was also shown a collection not belonging to the Museum, 3235-3239 Witness did not receive similar facilities on his visit to the French Museum; he did not consider it requisite to take official letters, 3239-3245 If assistance were granted to witness of a superior description it would be advantageous, but not that of an attendant ■who had previously been employed in a menial capacity, 3246-3257 Extent to which the annual visitation is useful ; collections are previously placed in the most complete order ; interest taken by individual trustees in the collections, 3258-3270 Why there would be no real benefit in giving each department apparatus for. making experiments, 3271-3274 Bird-stuffing is better done by employing an eminent bird-stuffer than by performing the operation in the Museum, 3274, 3275 There is no private collection ; every thing is exhibited, 3276, 3277. [Second Examination.] — Advantage that would be derived by subdividing the natural history department into separate departments of zoology and mineralogy, 3280-3287 Number of divisions and heads of departments in natural history in the Jardin des PJantes at Paris, 3288-3290 Further evidence in favour of the subdivision, 3291- 3307 Manner in which annual grants would be recommended, and if obtained, appro- priated, in the event of the departments being distinct, 3308-3313 It would be advan- tageous if young men were taken into the Museum at moderate salaries as assistants, on the understa-nding of rising by merit, 3315-3317 Heads of departments in the Museum delivering lectures would not be advisable, 3318-3321. Objects of the British Museum, 3322 Observations upon the descriptions in the Synopsis, and in what manner the work might be improved, 3323-25333 The col- lection of shells in the British Museum is far superior to any other public collection * enumeration of different foreign collections, 3334-3336 Impossibility of adhering. to any system for arrangement of classification, from the discoveries of new general and species in conchology, which are not to be found in any previous work, 3337- 3353 Comparison of the zoological collection of the Museum with that of Paris and Berlin, 3354, 3355 Collection of radiata the richest of any collection known to witness, though not so rich as it might be if more money granted for it, 3356, 3357 , Government departments have not affiarded the Museum that assistance which as a national museum, it had a right to expect, 3358-3360. ' Greek Antiquities. See France, III, 2. MiUingen,Mr. Greek Coins.' There was a sale of duplicate Greek coins, Ellis 570 Number of copies of the catalogue of Mr. Payne Knight's collection of Greek coins printed, distributed and sold, Ellis 1076 Mr. Combes' catalogue of the' collection as it existed in his time and Mr. Knight's own catalogue of those he bequeathed to the Museum, have beerl printed, Hawkins 3472 Account of sums expended on Mr. Taylor Combe's catalosue of Greek coins, 1809 to 1834, ■^PJ>-P- 419 Sums paid on account of the publication of Mr. R. P. Knights catalogue of his collection of Greek coins, 1821 to 1833, and manner in which the several sums were distributed, App. p. 367. Account showing the number of copies of the catalogue of Mr. R. P. Knight's collection of Greek coint which were printed, and the manner in which they have been disposed of, Jpp. p. 2,6j. Greek Museum; 1835.] (> R E HAW - 601 Greek Grammar. See Lascaris's Greek Grammar. Griffiths' Translation. See Rhgne Jnimal. H. Hamilton, Sir George B. Despatch from him to the Duke of Wellington, dated Brussels, , 28 November 1834, relative to literary institutions in Belgium, App.p. 484. Hamilton, Hamilton, Esq. Letter from, to the Duke of Wellington, dated Buenos Ayres, ^ 16 February 1835, relative to literary institutions in Buenos Ayres, App.p. 4Q1. Hansard, Luke Graves. (Analysis of his Evidence.)— Nature of the employment of Mr. Millard with regard to the Index to the Fifteen volumes of Reports of Committees of the House of Commons from 1715, which he executed to witness's satisfaction, 2357- 2362 Nature of his employment in combining the Sessional Indexes into one General Index, 1801 to 1826, which was also done to witness's satisfaction, 2363-2385 Mr. Millard also made indexes to several of the Woods and Forests Reports, under witness's direction, 2386, 2387 He was also employed to read the proof sheets of the Report of the Lords on the Dignity of the Peerage, 2388 Different persons' formed the Annual Indexes to the Sessional Papers, some were done by Mr. Millard; but the combination into one index, and making cross-references, was his principal business, 2389-^2398. Hardwicke, General. His bequest to the Museum, chiefly of birds, Konig 2795. Hargrave Manuscripts. There is a. catalogue of the Hargrave manuscripts, Ellis 1797. Harleian Manuscripts. There is a catalogue of the Harleian manuscripts, Ellis i'jg'Jr The catalogue of these manuscripts is more brief than desirable, but is a very fair catalogue, and as good a one as there is in most foreign collections, Forshall 738, 739 -Examination in answer to the remarks in Sir Harris Nicolas's pamphlet on the cata- logue of this collection, Forshall 798-805. Haslar Hospital. There is a museum of some extent there, Konig 2842 It is desirable that an examination of the collection at Haslar Hospital should take place, with the view to the appropriation of valuable specimens to the British Museum, Konig 2848. Hawes, Benjamin, Esq. Letter from, to the trustees of the British Museum, dated 10 May 1831, -4pp. ^. 426. Hawkins, Edward. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — Keeper of coins, medals, antiquities and works of art, 3441-3443 Duties of the office, and salary, 3444-3446 Description of Anglo-Gallic coins, commenced by Mr. Combe and published by witness, 3449 Account of the Elgin marbles published by Sir Henry Ellis, and also by the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge, 3452-3456 Persons by whom the description of the collection of ancient marbles in the British Museum is edited, 3457-3460 — —Wit- ness is generally consulted as to the value of collections of classical antiquities offered for sale, 3461-3463 How far witness decyphers Greek inscriptions and hieroglyphics in specimens of Grecian and Egyptian antiquities, 3464 Nature of the arrangement ot the Elgin, Phigalian and Townley Marbles, 3465-3468. Printed catalogues of the marbles and antiquities are published in quarto volumes and in the synopsis, 3469 There is a manuscript catalogue of the gems, 3470 There is a catalogue pf the greater part of the coins, that of the remainder is in progress, 3471- 3474 How far the print-room is under the head of the department of antiquitifes, and whether it would be advisable to make them distinct departments, 3475-3487 Allow- ing the heads of departments the patronage of subordinate officers is open to objections, 3488-3496 The coins of the late King were catalogued before they came to the Museum, and the catalogue has since been verified with the coins, 3497 Mode of admission to artists for the study of statuary, 3498 Special permission must be ob- tained for the purpose of taking casts, 3498-3502. Most of the moulds that have been taken of the finer statues are in the hands of Mr. Westmacott, subject to the condition of supplying casts at particular prices at the order of the trustees, 3503-3509 The repetition of making moulds from the originals is attended with danger ; but there is no objection to the multiplication of casts from those moulds, and distributing them to the utmost extent among the people, 3510, 3511— — Whether Mr. Westmacott has the monopoly of the moulds ; certain Italian ■ artists have been allowed by the trustees to take casts, 3512-3520 Italian artists get casts of fine objects, to mould from, and casts circulated about the country are casts of casts, 3521,3522-: — -How far it would be advisable to establish an office of moulder in the Museum, 3523-3526 — —It is not worth the while of Italian artists to take casts of the original size, 3527-3529 There is not space in the Museum for allowing the medals and coins to be exhibited both sides at once, 3530-3536 Extent to which wit- ness has been consulted by the architect as to the arrangement of the new buildings, in reference to witness's department, 3537-3540. [Second Examination.] — Papers given in; memprandum of price at which Mr. West- macott agreed to supply the Museum with casts of some portions of the Elgin marbles ; and list from Mr. Sarli of moulds in his possession taken from original statues in th,e Museum, 3836 Injury that may be done to antique statues fjpm taking frequeijir, 479. 4 H casts. edi HAW HOL [British' Hawkins, Edicard. (Analysis of his 'Es\Aence)-rCorainued. casts, besides producing discolouration, 3838 r-Proper care, skill and prqdeqce being provided for, there would be less injury from moulding, 3840 A moulder being attached to the Museum would not cause the public to be supplied with cheaper and better casts than they now pbtajn, 3841 How far Mr. Westmacott's property in cer- tain moulds of the Elgin marbles would prevent the trustees granting Mr. Sarti permis- sion to cast from the originals, 3842-3853 ^The only objection that could arise is the unnecessary multiplication of mouldings, which may cause injury to the original, 3854. Difficulty has arisen to an English artist in obtaining leave to cast from the statue of Apollo, on account of risk to the statue, 3855 The Elgin marbles- have not been moulded at all since witness has been at the Museum, and no statue has been moilldeJ twice during that period, 3857, 3858 ^The number of casts that can betaken from one mould vary according tp the skill with which the original mould is t^ken, 3860 Injiiry to bronzes from frequent casts is more conspicuous than to marbles, unless protected by a strong patina, 3861. Hawkins's Fossils. Mr. Konig was consulted on the purchase thereof, Ellis 131-134- His opinion, Forshall goi-Qo6 Purchase by the Museum of Mr. Hawkins's fossils, and extent to which restorations have been made in them, Konig 2638-2693 — — Reports and correspondence relative to the purchase of Mr. Hawkins's fossils, Forshall 2962 Examination upon the price paid for Mr. Hawkins's fossils, and upon the restorations in the large specitpeq ; difficulty of stating to what extent the collection is deteriorated i}y the restorations, Konig 2963-3028. Minute declining Mr. Hawkins's offer, dated 11 May 1833, A(^, p. 437 Minute declining Mr. H^wkins'^ second offer, dated 8 June 1833, App.p./^Qy lExtract of ^ letter from the B-ev. Dr. Buckland to the Right Hon. Lord Farnborough, dated 36 June 1834,4^^.^.437 Letter from the Rev. J. Forshall to Charles Kouig, esq., dated 10 July 1834, App.p. 438-^ — Minute of general meeting, dated 12 July 1834, App.p. 438-T — Letter from Gideon Mantell, esq., f.b.s. to the trustees, dated n July 1834, App.p.^^Q Letter from the Rev. W. Conybeare, f.r.s. to the Rev. J. Forshall, dated 7 July 1834, App.p. 439 Letter from W. Clift, esq., f. r. s. to the Rev. J. Forshall, dated 7 July 1834, Jpp. p. 439 Letter from H. T. de la Beche, esq., f. r. s.,'to the trustees, dated 17 July 1834, App.p. 440 Letters from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the trustees, datpd 7, 12 and 20 July 1834, App.p. 440, 441 — —Minute of committee, dated ] August 1834, App. /?. 440 Extract from Mr. Konig's reports, dated 12 February 1835, App. P' 441 Minute of committee, dated 14 February 1835, Jpp. p. 442 Extract from Mr. Konig's report, dated 12 March 1835, App. p. 442—^ — Minutes of committee, dated 14 March 1835, Jpp. |). 442,443 Minute of sub-committee, dated 26 Mar. 1835, App.p. 443 Letter from the Rev. Dr. Buckland to the Rev. J. Forshall, dated 12 March 1835, ^PP-P- 443- Haworlh, Mr. Mr. Haworth's collection was an important and valuable one, but ifs pur- chase was declined by the trustees, iScwwowei/e 3829-3833. Heads of Departments. Witness and other chiefs of departments have not seats at the board by virtue of their offices, Mlis 328. 331 No disadvantage has hitherto arisen from assistants being appointed without consulting heads of departments, £//js 1980, 1981 Allowing them the patronage of subordinate officers is opeil to objections, Hawkins 3488-3496 No inconvenience attends the practice of chiefs of departments,, when sum- moned before the trustees, being kept standing, Ellis <^ Forshall 406-422 — —It is not the etiquette for the heads of departments to sit before the trustees when called in to be examined on any specific subject, K'Sriig 2q6o, 2961 -How far the trustees have the power to obtain the most distinguished irien in each branch of science with a view to placing them at the head of departments. Children 3069-3071' The public have a moral security from the character of individuals appointed as heads of departments in the Museum, that they will keep up the reputation which acquired them the appoint- ment. Brown 3730. See also Entomological Collection. Lectures. Librarian. Manuscript Department. Herbarium. See Shane, Sir H. Herbarium of. Hereditary Trustees. See Trustees, 5. Herschel, Sir John. See Wellington, Duke of. History, Royal Academy of. See Spain. Hogarth, Mr. Was employed by the Museum in unrolling papyri and repairing charters being recommended by Messrs. Colnaghi, Forshall 1 103, 1104. ' Holidays, Public. Objections to opening the Museum during the Easter holidays, Forshall 1 31 9-1 330-— Objection to openmg the Museum during holiday weeks, Samouellemn -—If drunken people excluded, and strict watch kept up, the objection to opening during holiday weeks would be done away with, Samouelh 3920-3925. Holmes, Mr. See Index to Manuscripts. Holy Land. See Priidhoe, Lord. Homer, Museum ; 1835.] H M I N D 603 Homer, Head of. See Moulds. Horion, Sii- W. See Stanley, Lord. Hours of Jdmissson. The Museum could not be kept open more thari six hdurs per day without considerable increase in the establishment, Forshall 1284 When the hours of attendance at the reaiding-room was altered from ten till four to eleven till five, the readers uiet»orialized the trustees to go back tp their old hours, ElKs 1313 Objections to opening the Museum from nine till eight, forshall 1315 131 8. House of Commons Library. See Donations and Bequests. Housemaids. Are appointed by the principal libi-arian, Ellis 6-10. Hunter, Dr. Coins of. They were bequeathed to go to Glasgow, where they forjn part of the Hunterian Museum, .LVZ«s 1542, 1543. Hunter, Mr. A selection from his collection of insects marfe on his voyage with Captain King, was presented to the Museum, SomoweWe 3834. I. Ichthyological Collection. The collection of fishes in the French Museum is very good, Forshall 707-^ •This collection is small ; inspection of it by Baron Cuvier, Kbnig 2697- 2706. Ichthyorsaurus. Want of room prevents the veftabrse of the large head of the ichthyorsaurus being now exhibited, Kmig 2941-2947. Imperial Library. See Russia. Income and Expenditure of the British Museum. Sources of income of the Museum for general purposes, Forshall 826 Annual printed accounts of' receipts and payments, i8l2 to iS^St -^PP-P- 293-356 General account of all sums, of money received and expended on account of the British Museum, 1821 to 1833, under ceilaiahead^,, App. p. 358. Index to Manuscripts. A general index to the manuscripts is desirable, but not essentially ne- cessary ; cause of the one that was begun being abandoned, Forshall 750-761 Number of titles that could to be got throagh-irt a day, in making a correct atid useful index to the printed catalogue of manuscripts, Madde« 2202-2211 Number of titles written while in the service of the Museum, Millard 2349 This work will not be continued till the catalogues are revised, Ellis 2346-2348^- Opinion, without communication with the trnstees,that tliey would not wish to urge the inquiry further as to this work, Forshall 2352, 111 health caused the gentleman employed on that index to be inefficient, Forshdtt 7^6- 780 One was commenced at the recommendation of Lord Colchester; employment of Mr. John Millard tiiereon for three years, to the satisfaction of witness, EUis 1S07- 1822, 1873-1877, 1907-1915-^ — Recommendation of Mr. Millard by Lord Colchester, through Mr. Home, ElUs 1878-1881, 1. 934-] 943 Portion of the work Mr. Millard was employed on, Ellis 1882-1896 ^Qualifications requisite for a person to make a classed index tp manuscripts, E/fo 1897-1906 ^Mr. Millard's attendance; bow far efficient ; his discharge, and period he remained in the service of the Museum afterwards, Ellis 1916-1933, 1982-2069, Madden 2145-2202 Further evidence as to the dis- charge of Mr. Millard, Forshall 1823-1871 Economy assigned as the cause of wit- ness's dismissal from the Museum, Millard 2303 Application to Mr. Forshall for a certificate of character, on witness being a candidate for the secretarysliip of the Wynd- ham Club, MUlaa-d 2270 ^Examination upon witness's letter to the Wyndham Club, on Mr. Millard's applying for the situation of secretary, Forshall 2217-2254. Instances of mislatees occurring in the index on whicii Mr. Millard was employed. Madden 2072-2144 Witness nyj; fully prepared at last examination with full evidence as to mistakes. Madden 2353-2356 Impression that there is no important error in the index to manuscripts referred to by Sir F. Madden, Millard 2290 Why mischief could not arise from the errors that have been pointed out, Millard 2349 ^Minutps of the trustees, and letters from witness relative to the discontinuance of the general classed index to manuscripts, and memorials from Mr. Millard put in, Forshdll I'll'! Ex- amination thereon, Millard 2263-2269. 2276 — -Extent to which witness confirms the evidence of Sir Henry Elhs, and Sir Frederick Madden, relative to Mr. Millard, Forshall 2213-2216. Dateof minute appointing witness to undertake index to manuscripts, il/iV/ard 2255- 2257 Witness's statement as tp his duties and attendance, his absence and causes thereof, ilfe'/Zarc? 2258-2260. 2277, 2278.' 22S8, 2312-2338— — Monthly reports made by witness to Sir H. Ellis and Mr. Forshall of the progress of the index, Millard 2349' State of the index on witness's quitting the Museum, Millard ^Z'JQ- Superintendence of the index first by Sir Henry Ellis, and subsequently by Mr. Forshall, Millard i^-jg- 2285. Minute of general meeting respecting leave of absence to Mr. Millard, dated 13 March iS^O, App. p. 4'io Minute of committee respecting the continued assistance of Mr. Holmes, and notice to Mr. Millard, as to the term of his engagement, dated t2 February 1831, App.p. 426 'Letter from the Rev. J. Forshall to Mr, Miliajd, datied 17 Februaiy 479. 4 H 3 1831 604 IND KIN [rBiitish Index to Manuscripts — continued. 1831, ^pp. p. 4i}6 ^Letter from Benjamin Hawes, esq., to the trustees of the British Museum, dated \Q May 1831, App. p. 426 Memorial of Mr. Millard to the trustees, dated 11 May 1831, Jpp.p. 426 Minute of committee respecting, memoriaJ> dated 14 May 1831, App. p. 427 Minute of committee on the same subject, dated 11 June 1831, ^/jp. j9. 427 Letter from Rev. J. Forshall to Mr. Millard, dated 16 June 1831, App. p. 427 Letter from Mr. Millard to Henry Ellis, esq., dated 7 July 1831, App. p. 427— —Note frpm Mr. Millard to the trustees, dated 7 July 1831, App.p. 427 Minute of committee on Mr. Millard's letter, dated gih July 1831, App.p.^iy Memorial of Mr, Millard to the trustees, dated 4 January 1833, ^pp. p. 428 Minute of committee on above memorial, dated 12 January 1833, ^Ipp. ^. 428 Letter from the Rev. J. Forshall to Mr, Millard, dated 16 January 1833, App.p. 428. Indexes. See Catalogues of the Museum, 1.'^. Cole Collection. Reports to Committee of House of Commons. Sessional Papers. Woods and Forests Reports. Inferior Works. Inferior works might be put away if not put where they would perisii ; they must not be sold unless they came within the meaning of the word refuse in the Act 47 Geo. 3, Ellis 516-518. Insects. See Entomological Collection. Entomology. Natural History Department. Inspection. See Visitation. Institutions. See Private and Literary Institutioris. Instruction, Public. See Ffance, II. Italian Artists. . See Moulds. Jardin des Plantes a Paris. Difference between the British Museum and the Jardin des Plantes in Paris, JSZZJs 239-241 Number of divisions and heads of departments in natural history in the Jardin des Plantes at Paris, Gray 3288-3290 -'Modeof appoini- jnentof the governing body of the Jardin du Roi in Paris, £row« 3724-3727— — The natural history department in the Jardin du Roi is more extensive than that of the Mu- seum; sub-divisions of the department, -Browra 3732, 3733 Extent to which ihere is an analogy between the constitutioh of the Museum and that of the Jardin du Roi, JBrotwi374i. Departments into which it is divided, and contents thereof, App. p. ^a^ Is under the control of the Minister of Public Instruction, as regards its administration, and under that of the Minister of the Interior as regards buildings and repairs, App.p. 524 An- nual expenses, and out of what funds payable ; admission of the public, App.p.^2^, 525. See also Zoological Collection. Jean, Baron de, Collection of. Catalogue of the Baron de Jean, Samouelle 3914. Jewel Office. See Saxony. Joursanvault, Baron de, his Collection. Particulars as to journey to Pomaird, near Beaume, in France, to inspect this collection ; cause of the purchase not being made ; the trustees have since obtained all that was valuable from it, Ellis 1387-1449 Expenses of jour- ney, Ellis 1582, 1583. Extract from Nicolas's observations on the state of historical literature, concernino- Sir Henry Ellis's journey to Pomard, App. p. 4,^1 Letter from Prince Polignac to M, Paul de Fontenay, referred to in Sir Henry Ellis's Evidence, App.p. 432 — . — Extract from the Morning Journal of Saturday, 12th September xBiQtApp.p. 433 Note from the Baron de Joursanvault to Sir Henry Ellis, dated 3 September 1829, il/)p. p. 433-^ Report tnade to his grace the Archbishop of Canterbury, by Sir Henry Elhs, upon the Manuscripts at Pomard, dated 7 September 1829, App. p. 433. i K, King, Captain P. P. Specimens collected in his survey of the Southern American Conti- nent were presented to the Zoological Society, Gray 3358 None of his collection came to the Museum after his survey of New Holland, Samouelle 3834. jSee also Hunter, Mr, King's Library. The library of His Majesty King George 3, given by His Majesty King George 4 to the British Museum, is kept whole and entire, £/& 461-466 -Advan- presented by His Majesty to the British nation, App.p. 383. -See also Maps. Prints and Drawings^ Reading-room. King's Library at Copenhagen. See Denmark, III, 2. Knight, Museum ; 1835.] & N I K Y D 60^ I'^ti^mi'mfi'mr' Knight, Mr. Payne. See Conditions of Bequests. Duplicate Books and Coins. Greek CojHjS. Konig, Charles. (Analysis of his Evidence.)— Assistant librarian ; taking the departtaent of natural history, 2542-- — Salary and emoluments, and extent of apartments, 254:4-2:547 ' — — Duties of the department, 2548-2552 Assistants are appointed by the trustees without consultation with witness as head of the department, 2552-2557- The z6olo- gical collection is infgrior in completeness to that of minerals and fossils, 2558-2564 Arrangement of the minerals and fossils ; great labour therein, and how far further assist- ance requisite, 2565-2603 The state of the collection of minerals and fossils is re- ported iiionthly and recapitulated in the annual reports, 2604-2611 Attendance upon the details of the mineralogical department does not prevent the general superintendence of the whole department of natural history, 2612-2615 To whom the monthly reports are made, and how far their correctness ascertained, 2616-2620 Names of assistants under witness, but who do not assist him in mineralogy, 2G2 1-2627. Arrangement by witness in the zoological collection, which was subsequently broken up, 2628 — —-Complaints of nomenclature and the mode of classing objects In zoology, but which have been equally defended as complained of; any decided incorrectness would be interfered with by witness, 2629-2637 Purchase by the Museum of Mr. Hawkitis's fossils, and extent to which restorations have been macle in them, 2638-2693 -- — It is indispensably necessary that a collection should be formed, showing the geolo- gical formation of each English district, 2694-2696- The ichthyological collection is very small; inspection thereof -by Baron Cuvier, 2697-2706 -System adopted with regard to the arrangement of the shells ; cause of difficulty in the nomenclature, 2707- 2729 Arrangement of the insects ; mode of admission to view them, 2730-2735. There is no general catalogue in the natural history department, 2736, 2737 Small amount of the sum annually expended upon the entomological department prevents its being as perfect as some foreign collections, 2738-2742 A portion of Sir Hans Sloane's entomological collection has been destroyed annually, until there is none of it remaining; the specimens decayed partly from his mode of keeping them, 2743-2759 There is but little opportunity of stoving the skins of quadrupeds, there being but one part of the building that can be appropriated to the purpose, 2760-2763 — —There were some skins of birds in bottles transferred to the College of Surgeons; difficulty in ascertaining what portion were sold by auction, 2765-3768. [Second Examination.]— Articles of value that have been presented to the Museum in the last 20 years, 2705, 2796 ^The zoological specimens sent by Lieutenant Redman from Nova Scotia, have not been exhibited, from a doubt in the minds of the trustees as to whether they were Museum property, 2798-2804 — ; — Mr. Burchell's valuable speci- mens of natural history have not been exhibited from want of room, 2805-2815 ; There is no place in the Museum for a laboratory or place to try experiments in natural history, 2816-2823 Annual expenditure for purchasing objects in the natural history department, and for preserving them, and how far there is a limit to the sum expended, 2824-2839 Some of Captain Parry's collection of animals were presented by the Admiralty to the Zoological Society, 2850-2852. Naturalists have been very rarely sent out for the purpose of collecting interesting objects relative to their science, 2853: ^Merits of Mr. Brown as a botanist ; his charge of the Banksian collection; the other botanical collection of the Museum will be made over to him, '2854-2860 Want of room has precluded the trustees from obtaining objects of natural history, which they otherwise would have done, 2864-2870 Period occupied in the arrangement of the minerals and fossils in the long gallery, 2871-2873 • System adopted with regard to the classification and nomenclature of the ornitholo- * gical collection, 2875-2879 Objections to the principals of departments putting theif names to that portion of the Synopsis which describes the collection under their control, 2880-2885-^ — The price paid for Mr. Smith's collection of fossils was a fair remunera- tion, 2886, 2887. Improvements that might be made in the Synopsis, 2888-2900- — ^Extent to which the classification and nomenclature of Lamarck and Cuvier is attengled to in the arrange- ment of the objects of natural history, and reason of its being necessary occasionally to deviate from those systems, 2901-2913 Further evidence upoii the necessity of a revision of the Synopsis, 2914-294O -Want of room prevents the vertebree of the large head of the Ichthyosaurus being now exhibited, 2941-2947 Cause of the trustees not purchasing a piece of native gold from Peru which was offiarecl them, 2948-2959 It is not the etiquette for the heads of departments to sit before the trustees when called in to be examined on any specific, subject, 2960, 2961. [Third Examination.]— Examination upon the price paid for Mr. Hawkins's fossils, and upon the restorations in the large specimen, difficulty of stating to what extent the col- lection is deteriorated by the restorations, 2963-3028. Konig, Mr. Extract from his report, dated 12 February 1835, relative to Hawkins's fossils, ■ App. p. 44: ^Extract from his report on the same subject, dated 12 March 1835, App. p. 442. See also. Natural History Reports. Kyd, Lieut.-General. Presentation to the, Museum of the sculptured tortoise in nephritic stone, brought from Hindostan by Lieut.-General Kyd; its great value, .Konig 2795. 479. 4 H 3 " Laliels, 6o6 LAB LIT [British L. Labels. There ought to be one person to write labels only. Children 3135-3138 ^Spe- cimens belonging to remarkable collections should be indicated on the labels. Children 3183- Lamarck, See Natural History. , Laboratory. See Experiments. Landed Property. By Act of 5 Geo. 4, the trustees have the power of bokling estates in land, Ellis 87, 88. Languages. The Museum library is rich in the native languages of each country, Ellis 2458. See also French Language. Lascaris's Greek Grammar. There are three copies of the first edition of 1472 of this work, names of collections with which each copy came, Ellis ^^j. Latham. English names to specimens are generally taken from Latham, Children 3128, ■ 3129. Law. The Museum library is rich in what may be called international law, Ellis 2458- But it is poor in modern English law of the more ordinary kind, Ellis 2459. Leach, Dr. Great complaints were made of his introducing his own instead of the old nomenclature, Kbnig 2552 His nomenclature of the shells has been materially altered. Children 3127 His collection is in a fine state of preservation, Samouelle 3820, 3821. See also Natural History. Nomenclature. Learned Professions. See Literature. Lectures. Heads of departments in the Museum delivering lectures would not be advisable/ Gray 3318-3321, Brown 3729; See also Zoological Lectures. Lee, Mr. Mr. Lee, the librarian of the Royal Society, was employed by the Museum to class the mathematical and some other books, Ellis 2424. Leipzig. See Saixony. Lexicons. See Reading Room. Lihrariany Principal, of the British Museum. Salary and duties, and extent of patronage, Ellis 1-10 How appointed^ his hours of attendance are not limited, Ellis 267-270. See also Cottonian Manuscript. Reading Room. Libr^jry of the British Museum. Comparison of the mode of conducting the Paris library and that of the British Museum, showing the greater facilities of the latter, Ellis 246- 251 There have been no formal complaints of the state of the library, Lllis 1723- Number of volumes in the library of the British Museum, Ellis 2419-2423^ Branches of literature in which the Museum library is richest, Ellis 2457-2470 — —The library of the Museum does not contain all the latest works on botany which are desirable. Brown. 3667-3673 The Museum library is not decidedly poor in any class, Ellis 2459 List of important works on botany wanted, have been given in to the principal of the department of printed books, Brown 3675 State of the library with regard to ento- mology is very good, Samouelle 3876, 3877 There should be working books of refer- ence in each officer's room, to prevent their labours being suspended bv the works they are using being wanted in the reading-room, -SawioMeZ/e 3878. (See also Classification of the Library. Edwards, Major, Bequest of. English Drarna. European History. Evening Admission. Foreigners. Languages. Law. Manu- scripts. Maps, Prints and Drawings. Linn&us. His specific names are preferred as being the oldest, Children 3126 The spe- cific Latin names of Linnaeus are added to the ornithological collection, Children 3128. Literature. Literature is protected in the Museum by the introduction into the trust of the heads of all the learned professions, the church, the law and physic, Forshall •jo'i 704 Literature has increased so much that a catalogue would find no purchaser if it were published, Ellis 1764. See also Library of the British Museum. Trustees. Literature, Art and Science. Cause of the variance between the annual accounts of i82r and the return of 1833, of sums expended for those, purposes, Forshall 987-989. Literary Characters. Are admitted to the Museum at all times to view the Museum even during September, Forshall 1272, 1274. ' Literary Institutions, Foreign. Communications made to and received from Hi= Majesty's ministers abroad respecting literary institutions or libraries in foreign countries 18^4 1 H-in . App. p. 446. '^^' ^•^* Literary and Scientific Pursuits. There has been of late years a greater attention on the part of the ptibhc to literary and scientific pursuits, and symptoms of an increased desire fonhlST^^i ^"^^'"^''"^ '° ''""'P'y '"'*' ''1^ *'«hes of the public in that respect, Lords' Museum; 1835.] LOR MEL 607 Lords' Report on Dignity of the Peerage. See Peeragg. Louvre, The. The Louvre at Paris is open on Sunday, but the secret police are always in attendance, ForshaU 1331-1338-' — -Collections contained in the royal museum of the Louvre, App.p. 524 See also Fighting Gladiators. Formatore. Luxembourg, The. The productions of living artists acquired by the French government are exhibited there, App.p.'^i/^. M. Madden, Sir Frederick. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — Assistant keeper of the manuscript department, 2070 Instances of mistakes occurring in Mr. Millard's index to the printed catalogue of manuscripts, 207-2-2144 Witness's knowledge of Mr. Millard's continual absences on the ground of ill health, with his opinion that they were not always occasioned by that cause, 2145-2202 Number of titles that could be got through in- a day, in making a correct and useful index to the printed catalogue of maiiuscripts, 2202,2211. [Second Examination.] — Witness was not prepared at his last examiuation with full evidence as to mistakes in manuscript index, from his having been called upon suddenly to give evidence, 2353-2356. Madrid. See Spain. Mammalia. The mammalia are in good condition; they are arranged according toCuvier, whose nomenclature is adopted with such variations as recent discoveries have rendered necessary. Children 3077, 3078. Mantell, Gideon, Esq., f. r. s. Letter from, to the trustees, dated 11 July 1834, respecting Hawkins's fossils, App. /'.439- Manuscripts. Officers living within the walls of the Museum would be allowed to take home manuscripts, Ellis 2342, 2343. Number of volumes of manuscripts contained in the library 1821 and 1833 ; additions since 1821, App.p. 369. See also Arundel Manuscripts. Bruce Manuscripts. Catalogue of Manuscripts. Cot- tonian Manuscripts. Hargrove Manuscripts. Harleian Mamisfivipts. Index to Manuscripts. Oriental Manuscripts. Jiussia. Sloane'i, Sir H., Collection. Spelr man's Archaismus Graphicus. Upcott's Manuscripts. Webster, Sit Godfrey. Manuscript Department. By whom assistants in -the manuscript department are recom- mended and appointed, ForshaU 864-867 Means taken for obtaining the best quali- fied candidates in the manuscript department, ForshaU 873 - T here has been a greater increase of assistance in the manuscript department than in others, ForshaU 889 ■ Appointment of Mr. ForshaU as assistant in the manuscript department' without any communication with witness as head of the department, Ellis 1969-1979. Manuscripts, Keeper of. Amount of salary ; duties of office; assistance employed, Forshal 423, 424. 719-727 His office being combined with that of secretary, does not impai the efficiency of the duties of either, Ellis 305-327 ; ForshaU 728-733. 834-861- Nature of the qualifications required for the uffice, ForshaU 868-S72 Portion of time occupied in the duties of keeper of manuscripts and secretary, ForshaU S^o, 83.1. 5eealso DoMce, Mr. Maps, Prints and Drawings. Sums paid on account of the publication of the catalogue of maps and topographical prints and drawings in the library of His Majesty King George IV., 1821 to 1833 ; and manner in which the several sums were distributed, App. ■p. 366. See also Catalogue of Maps, ^c. Marbles. Nature of the arrangement of the Elgin, Phigalian and Townley marbJes, Hawkins 3465-3468 Printed catalogues of the marbles and antiquities are published in quarto volumes, and in the Synopsis, Hawkins 3469-^ List of marbles in the British Museum moulded by Mr. P. A. Sarti, App. p. 445. See also Ancient Marbles, Apollo, Statue of. Athenian Marbles. Belzoni, Mr. Clytie. Egina Marbles. Elgin Marbles. Fighting Gladiator. Moulds of Statues. Roman Statues. Sarti, Mr. Sculpture. Townley Marbles. 1 Mathematical Instruments, Collection of, at Dresden. See Saxony. Medals. Witness has collected and arranged materials for an account of the medals illus- trative of the history of Great Britain and its dependencies, Hawkins 3450. Medals, Cabinet of. See Wirtemberg. Medals, Collection of. See Saxony. Medicine. See Entomology. Meetings of the Trustees. Return of the days on which the trustees of the British Museum have met during 1832 to 1834; the hours of meeting; and the trustees who attended each of the aforesaid meetings, App. p. 390. Melley, Mr. Extent of the entomological collection of Mr. Melley of Liverpool, Samouelle 479, 4 H 4 Mextco. 6oS MEX MIN tBriUsh Mexico. Despatch from Richard Packenham, esq. to the Duke of Wellington, dated Mexico, 26 March 1835, relative to Jiterary institutions in Mexico, App.p. 491. Millard, John. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — Date of minute appointing witness to under- take a new general index to all the manuscripts in the Museum, 2255-2257 Com- plaints of witness's absence were not frequent, and his explanations were constantly approved, 2258, 2259 Number of days of witness's absence on the ground of ill- ness in each year, 1828 to 1832, 2260 Minute to the trustees as to the discon- tinuance of the index; witness's memorial to the trustees, and apphcations to indi- vidual trustees, 2263-2269 Application to Mr. Forshall for certificate of conduct and character on witness's being a candidate for the office of secretary to the Wynd- ham club, 2270 -State of the index on witness's quitting the Museum, 2270 Application to the Archbishop of Canterbury and tlie chief officers of the Museum, after notice of the abandonment of the index, 2276 Wilful neglect of duty or in- competence was not charged against witness on his dismissal, 2277, 2278. Superintendence of the index first by Sir Henry Ellis, and afterwards by Mr. For- shall, and no complaints made of the mode of conducting the work, or any errors pointed out, 2279-2283 Difference between the instructions of Sir Henry Ellis and Mr. Forshall for the formation of the index, particularly as regards the latter desiring every manuscript to be referred to, 2283-2285 — r-When witness had difficulty in reading particular manuscripts, he applied to certain gentlemen connected with the Museum, 2288 Witness's impression that there is no important error in the index to manuscripts referred to by Sir F. Madden, 2290 Extent of witness's knowledge of languages, 2291 Works of which he is the author, 2292^ Employment in indexing 15 volumes of Reports of the House of Commons, and an index to the Sessional Papers, 1801 to 1826, 2293 The Sessional Paper index examined by the clerks of the House of Commons, and but one mistake discovered ; it was approved by the late Speaker, and was a work of great labour, 2294-2297. Those works were conducted under the direction of Mr. Luke Hansard, 2299-2302 -Economy was assigned as the reason for witness's dismissal from the Museum, 2303 Inconvenience to literary men from certain catalogues in the Museum being without indexes, 2304-2307 Further evidence as to the days of witness's absence, 2312-2317 How-far wiinesS has cause of complaint of want of courtesy in the mode of his dis^ missal, 2318-2326 Opinion that witness's notes accounting for his absence by illness were satisfactory, 2327-2333 Witness was, not competent to read the early manu- scripts at the period of his employment; how far he was competent at.the termination of his labours, 2335-2338 No recollection of having received from Sir Henry Ellis, by way of loan, Spelman's Archaismus Graphicus, 2339-2341, [Second Examination.] — Loan to witness by Sir H. Ellis, of the Transactions of the Celtic or Antiquarian Society of Paris, but no recollection of receiving Spelman's Ar- chaismus Graphicus in the same manner, 2349 Monthly reports made by witness to Sir H. Ellis and Mr. Forshall of the progress of the index, and no objection taken to the quantity or quality of the work; number of titles written while in the service of the Museum ; why mischief could not arise from the errors that have been pointed out 2349- Millard, Mr. See Accounts. Index to Manuscripts. Peerage. Reports of Committees of House of Commons. Sessional Papers. Spelman's Archaismus Graphicus. Woods and Forests Reports. Millingen, Mr, How far capable of valuing Egyptian antiquities; he has been long con- sulted by the purchasers of Greek and Roman antiquities, Ellis 1499. Mineralogical Collections. The collection of minerals in the British Museum is in its extent and arrangement probably more perfect than that of Paris, Forshall 707-r Arrange- ment of the minerals and fossils ; great labour therein, and how far further assistance requisite, Konig 2565-2603 The state of the collection is reported monthly and reca- pitulated m the annual reports, R'onig 2604-261 1 Witness's attendance on this depart- ment does not prevent the general superintendence of the whole department of natural history, Komg 2612-2615 Names of assistants under witness, but who do not assist him in mineralogy, Xomg 262 1-2627 -Period occupied in the arrangement of the mmerals and fossds in the long gallery, Kowzg 2871-2873— Account of the number of applications made to the trustees of the British Museum (ai meetings authorized accord- ing to the rules to grant admissions) tor the purpose of being admitted to inspect that* part of the collection of minerals not generally shown, or any particular part thereof 1815 to 1820; number of admissions in consequence of applications, App p \n-j Set also British Minerals. Natural History Department. Zoological Collection. Minutes of the Trustees and of Committees. Relative to a letter from Richard Gooeh esa dated 18 February 1804, App.p. 413— On Lord Bridgewater's bequest, dated 10 March 1832, ATpp. p. 414 -01 committee respecting Mr. Belzoni's offer to collect antiquities m Egypt, dated 13 Felj.uary 1819, App. p. 424 Of general meetin... dechnmg Mr. Belzoni s offer, dated 13 February 1819, App.p. 424 Rt^pectin^ Mr. Salt's offer ot Egyptian antiquities, dated 19 February 1820, App p 425 . Fu" ther minute, dated u May 1822, App. p, 425 Of sub-committee respecting the offer ■ of Museum; 1 835. j M I N MO U ' Qxig Minutes of the Trustees and Committees — continued. ■ of Mr. Salt's Egyptian antiquities, dated 13 February 1823, App.p. 425 Of general meeting, respecting leave of absence to Mr. Millard, dated 33 March 1830, App.p.^i^ — -Of committee, respecting the continued assistance of Mr. Holmes, and notice to Mr Millard as to the term of his engagement, dated 12 February 1831, App. p. 426 Of committee, respecting Mr. MillaVd's memorial, dated 14 May 1831, ^pjoi^. 427 Another mihiite, dated ii June 1831, App. p. 427 Of committee, on Mr. Mil- lard's letter, dated 9 July 1831, App. p. ^^j Of committee, on Mr. Millard's memo- rial, dated ,12 January 1833, -^PP- i?- 428 — —Extract from minutes of the trustees, respecting Sir George Beaumont's pictures, dated 12 and 21 July 1823, 14 February 1824, and 13 May 1826, App. p. 430 Respecting Mr. Hblwell Carr's pictures, dated 12 March 1831, App, p. ^^1 Respecting Mr. Hawkins's fossil remains, declining Mr. Hawkins's offer, dated ii May 1833, App. p. 437 Decliniiig his second offer, dated i June 1833, App, p. 437 Of general meeting, dated 12 July X834, App. p. 438 Of committee, dated 1 August 1834, -^PP- P- 44° Of com- mittee, dated 14, February 1835, App. p. 442 -Of committee, dated 14 March 1835, Jpp. p. 443 Of sub-committee, dated 26 March 1835, App. jp.'443. See also Salt's Egi/ptian Antiquities. Moll, Baron de. Account of the sum paid for Baron de Moll's books and other articles, App. p. 405. Moll, Baron, Library of. See Edwards, Major. Monthly Reports. See Mineralogical Collection. Reports. Monuments^ Government have occasionally encouraged sculpture by monuments to emi- nent men, Westmacott 3976, 3977. Morier, D. R., Esq. Dispatch from, to Viscount Palmerston, dated Bern, 26 June 1835, relative to literary institutions in Switzerland, App. p. 495. Morning Journal. Extract from the Morning Journal of Saturday, 12 September 1829, relative to Sir Henry Ellis's journey to Pomard, Jpp. p. 433 Moths. See Cremations. Moulder. See Formatore. Moulds of Statues. Special permission must be obtained for the purpose of taking moulds-, Hawkins 3498-3502 Most of the moulds that have been taken of the finer statues are in the hands of Mr. Westmacott, subject to the condition of supplying casts at par- ticular prices at the order of the trastees,' Hawkins 3503-3509 -The repetition of making moulds from the originals is attended with danger, but there is no objection to the muhipiication of casts from those moulds, and distributing them to the utmost extent among the people, Hawkins 55x0-3511 Certain Italian artists have been allowed by the trustees to take moulds, Hawkins 351^-3520 Whether Mr. Westmacott has the monopoly of the moulds, Hawkins 3512-3520 Italian artists get casts of fine objects to mould from, and casts circulated about the country are casts of casts, Hawkins 3521, 2^22- It is not worth the while of Italian artists to take copies of the original size, Hawkins 3527-3529- , , . , ,;r u v • Permission obtained to mould from statues in the Museum by application to a person of rank, 5flr 3556 Hefusal to witness to be allowed to take a mould of the head of Homer; his subse- quently obtaining permission; number of casts sold, Safti 3558-3560 Those of the Elo-in collection are not now in good condition; sum at which Mr. Westmacott offered them to witness, Sarti 3550-3554 -Uthe means could be obtained of moulding figures and has reliefs under proper superintendence, there would be a greater sale of casts,- &»•*« 3557-35S1- 3568-3572- 3590, 3591 Accidents would not be likely to happen to the originals if the moulder is skilful ; witness could find security, Sarti 3573-3584 The colour of antique statues will be changed by moulding, but the ancient colour will be regained in two months, and the original will not be otherwise injured if the moulder knows his business, Sarfi 3592-3609. Mode of obtaining casts at the. French Museum ; comparison between the description of casts sold in France and England, and their prices, Sarti 3611-3629 In France they charge more for casts taken from their own Museum than they do for other casts, Sarti 3624 Memorandum delivered in of the price at which Mr. Westmacott agreed- to supply the Museum with casts of some portions of the Elgin marbles, Hawkins 38^6 List deHvered in from Mr. Sarti of moulds in his possession, taken from original statues in the Museum, Hawkins 3836 Injury that may be done to antique statues from taking frequent casts, besides producing discolouration, Hawkins 3838 Proper care^ skill and prudence being provided for, there would be less injury from moiilding, Haw- kins 3840 How far Mr. Westmacott's property in certain moulds of the Elgin mar- bles would prevent the trustees granting'Mr. Sarti permission to mould from the originals, Hawkins 3842-3853 The only objection that would arise is the unnecessary multi- plication of mouldings, which may cause injury to the originals, Hawkins 3854. The Elgin marbles have not been moulded at all since witness has been at the Museum, and no statue has been moulded twice during that period, Hawkins 3857, 479- 41 . 3858- 6io M O U NAT [British Moulds of Statues — continued. 3858 ^The number of casts that can be taken from one mould vary according to the skill with which the original mould is taken, Hawkins 3860 The terms on which wit- ness permitted to make moulds of the Elgin' marbles were that the public should have every facility, and that the prices should be brought as reasonable as possible, Westmacott 3928-3931— —Offer of the moulds for sale to Sarti, which had it been accepted, would have been mentioned to the trustees, Westmacott 3932-3941 Moulding in wax would do less injury 10 the statue than plaster; but on account of its pUability could not be used for large statues, ffestoacoW 3989-3999. , t., . ,, • Mr. Westmacott's proposal for making, moulds from marbles in the Llgin collection, dated' 16 February 18I7, App. p. 444 Conditions on which the trustees accepted Mr. Westmacott's proposal, App. p. 445 List of marbles in the British Museum moulded by Mr. P. A. Sarti, l|);).j3. 445- ^, . ,, „ . „. , . ^,, ,. See also Apollo, Statue of. Bronzes. Clytie. Elgin Marbles. Fighttng Uladiator. Formatore. Roman Statues, Westmacott, Mr. Munich. Account of the expenses of Messrs. Baber and Konig's journey to Munich, App. p. 405. Museums, Foreign. See France, III. N. 'Naples. See Sicily. Naples, Ex. Queen of. See Dodwell's Greek Bronzes. National Collection. See Parliamentary Grants. National Costumes. See Dresses. National Gallery. See Beaumont, Sir George, Pictures of. Pictures. Natite Languages. See Languages. Natural History, Cabinet of, at Dresden. See Saxony. Natural History, Cabinet of, at Wirtemberg. See Wirtemberg. Natural History, Collection of. The collection is imperfect, compared with that of the Jardin desPlantes, Ellis 242-244 Mr. Kbnig writes the labels by choice, Forshall 890-893. 899, 900 Account of the objects of natural history bought at Mr. Bullock's sale by Dr. Leach, put in, Cowtan 2211, App. p. 418 Annual expenditure for pur- chasing and preserving objects in the natural history department, and how far there is a limit to the sum expended, Konig 2824-2839 Want of room has precluded the trustees from obtaining objects of natural history, which they otherwise would have done, Kmig 2864-2870 Extent to which the classification and nomenclature of Lamarck- and Cu vier is attended to in the arrangement of objects of natural history, and reason of its being necessary occasionally to deviate from those systems, Konig 2901-2913 Report of Sir H. Ellis, Mr. Konig and Mr. Children, on the 2d February 1829, regarding the department of natural history, Forshall 2962. . Theie is no perfect catalogue of specimens therein ; one is^esirable, but the increased number of hands requisite for its formation would render it expensive, Konig 2736-2737, Children 3054-3064 System of nomenclature attached to the different specimens ; more names would be attached to the labels if there were more hands for the perform- ance of the duties. Children 3123-3131 There has not been sufficient time to put the names on the various specimens with the present number of hands, Children 3132-3134 Description of specimens thereof that were obliged to be stowed away in boxes till the new buildings afforded room for their being exhibited. Children 3134 Cause of some specimens not being exhibited they are in general put into cases as soon as pos- sible, Children 3142 Extent to which the arranging and naming has gone ; constant new accesions render it impossible for such a collection to be ever said to be finished, Gmy 3213, 32 1 4-- The time occupied in giving information to visitors requiring it prevents the work of arrangement goitig on speedily ; and the person making the arrange- ment is the most fit person to give information, Graj/ 3215-3218. Previous arrangements are necessarily altered upon considerable acquisitions taking place, and also upon removals. Gray 3239, 3220 Difficulties might be overcome with more assistance. Gray 3221 Name of the author whose nomenclature is adopted is attached to the specimens, CAj7drera 3395-3397 The scientific name in Latin, and the trivial names in English, French and German, should be attached. Children 3398 — —The nomenclature adopted by Dr. Leach has been altered by Mr. Kbnig, and is in a more perfect state th^n in the time of Dr. Leach, Children 3399, 3400 Unstuffed specimens for examination would be useful, but they would be attended with expense ; such a sug- gestion has not been offered to the trustees. Children 3401, 3402. 3408-3412. Bill for articles purchased by Dr. Leach for the British Museuip at the sale of Mr. Bullock's collections, App.p.^iS, 419 Account of the sums expended by the trustees upon objects of natural history, under various heads, between 25 December 1829 and 1830 App. p. 435 Report upon the department of natural history made by Sir Henry Ellis' Mr. Konig and Mr. Children, dated 2 February 1829, App. p. ^^6 Account of pur- chases Museum; 1836.J NAT OFF 6ii Natural History, Collection of — continued. chases in natural history, coins and antiquities, with cabinets : 18x5, App. p. 302 i8i6, App.p.^OF, i^i7> ^PP-P'Z^I i8i8, App.p.^io 1819,4^^.^.312 1820, App.p. 314 1821, App.p. 317 1822, App.p.Q2o 1823, ^pj?. p. 323 1824, App.p. 326 1825, App. p. 328 1826, App. p. 331 1827, App. p. 333 1828, App.p. 336 1829, App. p. 339 1830, App. p. 342 1831, App. p. 345 1832, 4pp.;>.348 i833,ilpp.p. 35i 1834,^1^^.^.354. Natural History Department. Salary and emolumeats, extent of apartments, and duties of witness as assistant librarian, taking the natural history department, Konig 2544- 2552 Assistants are appointed by the trustees without consultation with witness as head of the department, Konig 2552-2557 Amount of witness's salary as assist- ant officer in the natural history department; duties of the office, Children 3029- 3037 Advantiiges and disadvantages that would arise from the formation of a board composed of the most eminent naturalists to have the control of this department, Children 3065-3068 Salary of witness as extra assistant therein, Gmy 3208-3210 Duties of the office. Gray 3211, 3212. Advantage that would be derived by subdividing the natural history department into separate departments of zoology and mineralogy. Gray 3280-3287. 3291-3307 Manner in which annual grants would be recommended, and if obtained, appropriated, in the event of the departments being distinct,' Gray 3308-3313 If assistance were granted to witness of a superior description it would be advantageous, but not that of an attendant who had previously been employed in a menial capacity. Gray 3246- 3257 Not advisable that the officers of the Museum should publish Annales du Museum, while natural history is so subdivided. Brown 3734 Salary and duty of witness as extra assistant in the natural history department, having the care of the Crus- tacea and insects, Samouelle 3744-3750 Particulars as to witness's appointment, Samowe^/e 3752-3755. See also Entomology. Entomological Collection. Experiments. Jardin des Plantes. Mineralogical Department. Spirits of Wine. Trustees. Natural History, Royal Museum of, at Copenhagen. See Denmark, 11,4. Natural History, Museum of. See Switzerland, 2. Tuscany. Natural History Societies. Societies in this country for the cultivation of natural history, which are supported by individual subscriptions. Brown 3734, 3735. Naturalists. They have been very rarely sent out with expeditious for the purpose of col- lecting interesting objects relative to their science, Konig 2853 Advantages that would be derived by their being so sent out. Children 3190. See also Zoological Society. Naval Museum. See France, III, 3. Naval Officers. The regulation requiring naval officers to surrender collections made abroad should be so far altered as to allow the Museum to make selections, Konig 2843, 2844. See also Government. Zoological Society, Naylor, Sir George, Collection of. This collection was not offered to the trustees in a mass ; they made considerable purchases at Sir George Naylor's sale, Ellis 1^71. New Holland. See King, Captain. Nicolas' s Observations, on the State ot Historical Literature. Extract therefrom concerning Sir Henry Ellis's journey to Pomard, App. p. 432. Nicolas, Sir Harris. See Harleian Manuscripts. Nomenclature. Collections being arranged and named according to the views of the officer arranging them, is necessary to show the advances made by science, Gray 3231-3233 Nomenclature that was adopted by Dr. Leach; those on birds have been removed, but those on the shells have not been re-written, Samouelle 3894-3896. See also Conchological Collection. Cuvier,M. Dum6ril,M.' Entomological Collection. Lfitham. Leach, Dr. Linnesus. Mammalia. Natural History Collection. Ornithological Collection. Temminck. Zoological Collection. Noel, Mrs., Collection of. Mrs. Noel's collection of Brazilian insects was a valuable col- lection, and offered at a reasonable price, but only one box was purchased, Samouelle 3805-3811. Northern Antiquities, Museum of, at Copenhagen. See Denmark, 5. Nova Scotia. See Redman, Lieutenant. O. Officers of the British Museum. No officers of the Museum hoid appointments which take them away from it duriug the hours that ought to be devoted to its service, Ellis 332-336 No officers of the Museum have been appointed since March 1833 ; clerks have been employed for temporary purposes, Ellis 337-345- — The responsibility of seeing that the officers effectually discharge their duty devolves upon witness, Mlis 361-363 They sometimes make purchases of small value, which if not confirmed by the Trustees are • 47g, 412 returned 6i2 OFF P E M [British Officers of the British Museum — continued. returned upon their hands, Ellis l^ For shall !jg6-Qg8 Annual account, 1821 to 1833, of the numter of librarians, officers, and other persons employed in the British Museum ; salaries, extra service money, gratuities and perquisites, and other emoluments; nature and extent of service and attendance; accommodation by way of lodging, , &c., ^pp. p. 370 List of officers, assistants, attendants, &c. of the British Museum, 21 May 1835, App.p.^SS ^-Amount of the annual salarieg, and of the monies paid to each of the present under and assistant librarians, officers and attendants employed in the care and. management of the manuscripts, printed books, minerals, medals, coins, prints and drawings, for extra service money, or any other sums or gratuities paid to them beyond their stated salaries; nature and extent of service; accommodation in the way of lodging, perqui- sites, &c., 1810 to 1820, Jpp.p. 370. See also Extra Service. Fees. Heads of Departments. Librarian. Manuscripts, Keeper of. Natural History Collection. Parliamentary Grants. Private Collections. Promotion. Reports. Rewards. Salaries. Secretary. Security. Official Trustees'. See Trustees, 6. Ornithological Collection. System adopted with regard to the classification and nomencla- ture of the ornithological collection, Konig 2875-2879 It is more desirable to place long descriptions of birds in the Synopsis than on the labels, CAiV^Zrew 3177-3180-: The age and sex of biids are indicated where known, Children 3182 Certain exotic North American and Arctic birds, where named and labelled ; doubts whether that system is continued, Samouelle 3777-3779. See als9 Linnaus. Organic Remains. The collections of in the French Museum are very good, Forshall 707. Oriental Manuscripts. Progress is making in a catalogue of the Oriental manuscripts, Ellis 1797. Ourang Oiitarig, Description of. See Synopsis. P. Pakenham, Richard, Esq. Despatch from, to the Duke of Wellington, dated Mexico, 26 March 1835, relative to literary institutions in Mexico, App. p. 491. Papyri. See Hogarth, Mr. Paris. See France. Parliamentary Grants. The country ought, and would very wisely bestow, much larger grants on the Museum than at present, and if so evei-y person in the establishment would be more liberally paid, Forshall 887 Special grants made by Parliament are not en- tered in the accounts of the Museum, as not going through the trustees' hands, Forshall 929-934 Sums voted by Parliament for. specific purposes are not always strictlj'^ applied to those purposes, but the balance is returned in the annual accounts to Parlia- ment, Forshall 1171-1174 Appropriation thereof to other purposes than the. specific ones for which granted, is sanctioned l:>y Parliament, by being mentioned in the estimates of the following year, Forshall 1180-1192. The money voted is received from the Treasury en masse, and appropriated as nearl}' as possible to the specific objects for which the estimates are framed, Forshall 1255-1258 Cause of sums being asked for one purpose and expended on another, jEZ/is 1350, 1351 Sum that would be sufficient to be annually granted to complete the national collection, Samouelle 3910, 391 1 Statement of the money votes by the House of Com- mons, specifying the statute by which each was applied/ J.;)^. p. 568 Special grants voted by Parliament, iBii to 1835, for the purchase of collections to be deposited in the British Museum, App. p. 357. See also Alexandrian Manuscripts. Expenditure. Natural History Collection. Rich's Collection. Value of Collections. Parliamentary Returns. By what officer the returns laid before Parliament are made up, Forshall 806-825' Why the return presented to Parliament in 1833 was not according to the order of the House of Commons, Forshall 960 About the year 1812 whoever presented the accounts to Parliament signed tlltm, Ellis 1050, 1051. See also Accounts. Parry, Captain. Some of his collection of animals were presented by the Admiralty to the Zoological Society, Konig 2850-2852. See also Rock Specimens. Patronage. The patronage of the Museum is confined to the three principal trustees, Ellis 118-121. See also Heads of Departments. Payments. See Income and Expenditure. Peerage, Lords' Report on the Dignity of. Mr. Millard was employed to read the proof sheets of the Lords' Report on the Dignity of the Peerage, Hansard 2388. Pembroke, Lord, Coins of. The trustees did all they could to get these coins in 1828, but the Treasury would not advance the money, Ellis 1544-1550. Perishable Museum; 1835.] PER PUR 613 Perishable Articles. Duplicates of certaia objects oF zoology that were perishable have recently been exchanged, ibrsAaZZ 471. Peruvian Gold. Clause of the trustees not purchasing a piece of native gold from Peru which was offered thein, Konig 2948-2959. Phigalian Marbles. See Marbles. Physical and Mathematical Instruments, Collection of, at Dresden. See Saxony. Picture Gallery, Royal, at Copenhagen. See Denmark, II, 6. Picture Gallery at Dresden. See Saxony. Pictures. Bequests of pictures have not been sold; they are placed in the National Gal- lery, Ellis 529-537. 557-564. See also Beaumont, Sir George, Pictures of. Plymouth Museum. See Franklin, Captain. Police. The assistance of the police would be called in at the Museum if occasion required it, after a report of the necessity to the principal librarian, Forshall 1339-1344. Polignac, Prince. Letter from, to M. Paul de Fontenay, referred to in Sir Henry Ellis's evidence, respecting the manuscripts at Pomard, dated 24 August 1829, App. p. 432. Pomard. See Joursanvault, Baron de. Potteries. Improvements in the productions of the Potteries since the acquisition of the Elgin marbles, Wes<»2aco« 3963-3965. Presentations. See Donations and Bequests. President of the Royal Academy. "1 „ D .7 . ^ 1 o /. . ■ • ? See Trustees, 6. Jf resident of the Society of Antiquaries. J Printed Sooks. Number of volumes of printed books contained in the library in 1821 and 1832, and of additions since 1821 ; volumes sold and disposed of, App, p. 369. See also Catalogue of Printed Books. Library of the British Museum. Printing. Means taken by the trustees to get their printing done at the lowest rate ; names of printers employed by the Museum, Ellis 1065-1074 Account of all sums paid on account of printing the Museum catalogues and publications, 1821 to 1833; cost of each publication ; sums paid editor, engraver, printer and bookbinder; copies printed and how disposed of, App. p. 362-368. Prints and Drawings. How far the print-room is under the head of the department of antiquities, and whether it would be advisable to make them distinct departments, Haw- kins 3475-3487 Account of the number of applications made to the trustees of the British Museum (at meetings authorized according to the rules to grant admissions) for the purpose of being admitted to inspect the collection of prints and drawings, or any parts thereof, 1815 to 1820; number of admissions in consequence of such applications, App. p. 397 Copy of Mr. Smith's, keeper of prints and drawings, report to the trus- tees, dated 18 March 1824, App. p. ^l^. See also Maps, Prints and Drawings. Private Collections. There is no prohibition against officers of departments making private collections, Forshall go6, 907 There is no private collection in the Museum; every thing is exhibited. Gray 3276, 3277. Private and Local Literary Institutions. See Catalogues of the Museum, 3. Private Room. Unsuccessful attempt of witness to obtain a private room, which is an accommodation the other under-librarians have. Brown 3690-3696. Promotion. The principle of promotion is acted on in the establishment, Ellis 370, 371. Prudhoe, Lord. His collection is valuable, and is chiefly interesting from its locality, the Holy Land, Konig 2796. Prussia. Despatch from R. Abercrombie, esq. to Viscount Palmerston, dated Berlin, 12 November 1834, relative to literary institutions in Prussia, iljip. p. 481. Public. See Visitors. Public Functionaries. See Trustees, 3. Public Instruction. See France, 2. Public Taste. See Taste. .. Publications. Number of publications of the Museum printed and sold, Ellis 1052-1055 Account of receipts and expenditure for works published, 1812 to 1814, App. p. 298 1S12 to 1815, App. p.' 299 For 1815, App. p. 302— —1816, -4pp. p. 304 1817, 4/'P-;'- 307 — ^1818, 'Ipp.p. 309 1819, App.p.^^ii— — 1820, App.p. 314 1821, App.p.2,T^Q 1822/ ^pp. p. 319 1823, Jlpp.p. 322 1824, ^pp. p. 325' 1825, App.p.saS 1826, Jpp.p. 330 1827, App. p. 333 1828, Jpp.p.335 1S29, 1pp. p. 338 1830, App.p. 341 1831, 4pp.p. 344 1832, .4pp. p. 347 1833, 4?'P"i'- 350 1834, -^PP-P- 354. See also Sales of Publications. Purchase of Collections. The trustees do not make purchases of collections above the value of 1,200/. or 1,500/.; mode adopted of applying to Parliament, and evidence taken before Committees of the House of Commons, Ellis 171-igi-^ — Account of the pur- chases of the Museum, 1812 to 1835, '-^PP- ?• 357- See also Donations and Bequests. 479- 4 I 3 Qualifications- 6i4 QUA R I C [British Qualifications. See Trustees. Quadrupeds. There is but little oppprtunity of stoving the skins of quadrupeds, there being but one part of the building that can be appropriated to the purpose, Konig 2760-2763. R. Radiata. Collection of radiata the richest of any collection known to witness, though not so rich as it might be if more money granted for it, Gray 3356, 3357. Reading Room. Is only closed during the Christmas, Easter and Whitsun weeks, Forshall 1281- In one instance the same gentleman required 55 books iri one morning, which were supplied him, Ellis 1315, 1316 It is not sufficiently capacious or so well venti- lated as it ought to be, Ellis 1658-1661 Name of the superintendent of, Ellis 1662- 1665 The attehdance of one of the librarians therein has been dispensed with, it being considered a misapplication of time, Ellis 1666-1675 Number of volumes of lexicons, dictionaries and encyclopedias therein, one-half of which have been added of late years, Ellis 1800, 1801 -Appropriation of the great room of the Royal Library as a reading- room, would cause the books to be turned out of the library to make room- for those of the reading-room ; two new reading-rooms are preparing, Ellis 1802, 1803. Means of procuring admission to the reading-room ; recommendations usually required, particularly with regard to foreigners, Ellis 1804-1806 Account of the number of applications made to the trustees of the British Museum (at meetings authorized accord- ing to the rules to grant admissions) for the purpose of being admitted to the reading- room, 1815 to 1820; number of admissions in consequence of such applications, App. P- 397 Statutes and rules of the trustees now in force with respect to admission to the reading-room, 1821, App. p. 401 Letters from the Rev. H. H. Baber to Sir Henry Ellis, as to persons attending the reading-rooms, dated 26th arid 30th June 1835, App. p. 428, 429- — Letter from Mr. Cates to Sir H. Ellis, on the same subject, dated 24th June 1835, App. p. 429. See also Evening Admission. Hours of Admission. Receipts and Payments. Receipts and payments of the British Museum annually, 1812 to 1834, ^i>p. i?. 295-353 Account of money received and expended for the British Museum, 1820 to 1833, under particular heads, App. p. 358. See also Accounts. Income and Expenditure. Record Commission. Sum received by witness from the Record Commission, for a work on which he had been engaged, and why the amount was not mentioned in the return to Parliament in 1833, Ellis 271. See also Welsh Domesday. Redman, Lieutenant. The zoological specimens sent by Lieutenant Redman from Nova Scotia have not been exhibited, from a doubt in the minds of the trustees as to whether they were Museum property, Konig 2798-2804. Refusal to accept Donations. See Donations and Bequests. Refusal to purchase Collections. See Haworth, Mr. Rlgne Animal. An English synonime is added to the specimens, most frequently that in Griffiths's Translation of the R^gne Animal, Children 3126. Repairs. When the collections are in their proper localities, part of the Museum might be closed at a time for repairs, and prevent the closing the whole in September, Forshall 1280 The public would be discontented at finding any part closed, Forshall 1282. Reports of Committees of the House of Commons. Mr. Millard's employment upon a general index to the Reports of the House of Commons, from 1715 to 1801, Ellis ]Q literary gentlemen, and advantage of the system, Ellis 372-376 ^Those of the officers of the Museum are not sufficiently liberal, Forshall 884-888 Amount of the annual salaries and of the monies paid to each of the present under and assistant librarians, officers, and attendants employed in the care and management of the manuscripts, printed books, minerals, medals, coins, prints, and drawings, for extra service-money, or any other sums or gratuities paid to them beyond their stated salaries ; nature and extent of service; accommodation in the way of lodging, perquisites, &c., 1810 to 1820, App. p. 398. Sale of Publications. The trustees now make it a rule not to sell or part with any books, coins, or other things that may have been given to them, Ellis 36-43 Names of pub- lications sold by the Museum, Forshall 827, 828 Account of the sale of the several Museum publications, 1833 and 1834, App- p. 291-353. See also Publications. Salt's, Egyptian Antiquities. Purchase thereof by the Museum, price paid for them, and purchase of alabasrer sarcophagus by Sir John Soane, Ellis 1497-1517 Disposal by Mr. Salt of a second collection to the French Government, Ellis 1518-1520 — ^Minutes of the trustees relating to the purchase of Mr. Salt's collection of Egyptian antiquities put in, ForshalliSj2— — Minute respecting Mr. Salt's offer of Egyptian antiquities, dated 19 February 1820, App.p. 425 Further minute, dated 11 May 1822, App.p.^2^- Minute of sub-committee respecting the offer of Mr. Salt's Egyptian antiquities, dated 23 February 1823, App. p. 425 Memorandum of sum paid for them, App. p. 425. See also Belzoni, Mr. Samouelle, George. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — Salary and duties of witness as extra assistant in the natural history department, having the care of the collection of the Crus- tacea and insects, 3744-3750 Particulars as to witness's appointment, 3752-3755 Works on entomology published by witness, 3756, 3757- Witness has no assistance in his department; nature of the assistance- that would be useful to him, 3758-3768 Extent to which the collection of Crustacea, &c. under witness's cljarge, are named, num- 479. 4 1 4 bered 6i6 SAM * S A R [British Samouelle, George. (Analysis of his 'EviAence)— continued. bered and catalogued, 3769-3776 Certain exotic North American and Arctic birds where named and labelled; doubts whether that system is continued, 3777-3779 jThe natne of witness's office should be defined, he having been told he is not an officer of the Museum, 3780-8787 The system of the authors best known is adopted by witness with regard to arrangement and nomenclature, 3788-3790. The collection of insects is deficient as compared with other catalogues, 379^-3798 There have been but few collections of insects purchased within the last fourteen years, 3709-3804 Mrs. Noel's collectioir of Brazilian insects was a valuable collection, and offei'ed at a reasonable price, but only one box was purchased, 3805-3811 Wit- ness was examined by the trustees upon an attack being made on the Museum by the Edinburgh Review, 3812, 3813. 3816-3818 Witness's communications with the trustees are made by means of his reports through Mr. Konig, the principal of the depart- ment, 3814,3815. At the period of the attack by the Edinburgh Review it was neces- sary to remove Sir Hans Sloane's collection from the public eye as they were useless, 3819 Mr. Brown's and Dr. Leach's collection are in a fine state of preservation, 3820, 3821 Cedar cabinets were replaced by mahogany, the gum from the cedar having a tendency to destroy the insects, 3822. The entomological collection has been increased since witness was appointed, it was in fine condition then, 3823 Regret that Mr. Stone's collection of British insects was not purchased, as it would have completed the Museum collection, 3824-3828 Mr. Ha- worlh's collection was an important and valuable collection, but its purchase was de clined by tlie trustees, 3829-3833 Regret that the collections made by King's officers accompanying expeditions do not come to the Museum, 3834. [Second Examination.]— State of the collection of Crustacea and insects in 1821 and at present, 3862, 5863 Particulars as to the purchase and donations of insects since 1821, 3864 How far witness's labours in the collection of entoiiiology have been directed by the heads of the natural history department, and how far witness considers himself responsible, 3865,3866 The arachnoidee have been long arrai^ed under their generic titles, but their species is now being determined by Mr. Children, 3867-3870 There is sufficient ground for forming entomology into a distinct department, 3871-3873 Witness is responsible for the synopsis as far as the insects are exhibited, 3874, 3875 State of the library with regard to entomology is very good, 3876, 3877 There should be working books of reference in each officer's room, to prevent ilieir labours being suspended by the works they are using being wanted in the reading-room, 3878 The name of the donor is attached to most insects, 3879 Sir Hans Sloane's catalogue will determine the number of specimens; the exposure to the light having destroyed them in consequence of the bad mode in which they were preserved, is a cir- cumstance that could not have been prevented, 3880-3893. Nomenclature that was adopted by Dr. Leach ; those on the birds have been removed, but those on the shells have not been re-written, 3894-3896 -More valuable results will be derived from insects when there is a better acquaintance with their habits and manners, 3897 The collection is continually being referred to, 3898 Foreign countries in which entomology has been extensively pursued as a branch of natural his- tory, 3899, 3900 Encouragement of the study, so as to make it bear on arts or medi- cine, is better left to the views of private individuals, 3901, 3902 Experiments must be tried in the living state, which could not be done at the Museum, 3903^ — Difficulty of obtaining insects in the same locality in different years, 3904 Entomological collections are more extensive abroad, 3905 Extent of the entomological collection of Mr. Melley of Liverpool, 3906-3909. Sum that would be sufficient to be annually granted to complete the national collec- tion, 3910, 3911 Government should give directions to naval and military officers and foreign residents to make collections, 3912 Rooms should be lighted with side windows, 3913 — 7-Cataiogue of Baron de Jean, 3914. Good conduct of the public generally while visiting the Museum, 3915, 3916 Objection to opening the Museum during holiday weeks, 3917-^ — ^Increase in the number of visitors at the present day over formerly, 3918 Visiting the Museum would improve the taste of the public, 3919 If drunken people excluded, and strict watch kept up, the objection to opening during holiday weeks would be. done away with, 3920-3925. Sams's Collection. Amount paid for this collection in 1834, ^^^^^ 1551-1559. Sarcophagus. See Salt's Egyptian Antiquities. Sardinia. Despatch from Sir Augustus Foster to Viscount Palmerston, dated Turin 25 March 1835, relative to literary institutions in Sardinia, App. p. 522 Memoire sur les Musees et Bibliotheques Pubhques dans les Elats Sarde, App. p.^i-i-' — Number of royal Museums at Turin; how directed; annual expenses; funds out of which defrayed • admission of the public, App. p. 523 Number of librarians for the University library at Turin; annual expense of books; general annual expenses; funds out of which defrayed; number of volumes of books and manuscripts; admission of the public &c Jpp,;3. 523. - I y •> Sort, Museum; 18350 SAR ' SIC 617 Sarti, Petro Angel. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — Permission obtained to mould from statues in the British Museum by application to a person of rank, 3541-3546. 358.5-3589 Ap- plication must also be made to Mr. Westmacott, who has given a denial in some instances, 3547"'3549" Moulds of the Elgin collection are not now in good condition ; sum at which Mr. Westmacott oflPered them to witness, 3550-3554 — —Instances in which permission to mould has been refused, 3555-3556 If the means could be obtained of moulding figures and bas-reliefs under jiroper superintendence there would be a greater sale of casts, 3557. 3561.3568-3572.3590,3591. Refusal to witness to be allowed to take a cast of the Head of Homer ; his subse- quently obtaining permission ; number of the casts sold, 3558-3560—^ — There is an increasing demand for statues and busts wlien they are good, 3562-3567 ^Accidents would not be likely to happen to the originals if the moulder is skilful ; witness could find security, 3573-3584 The colour of antique statues will be changed by moulding, but the ancient colour will be regained in two months, and the original will not be otherwise injured if, the moulder knows his business, 3592-3609 Mode of obtaining casts at the French Museum ; comparison between the description of casts sold in France and England, and their prices, 3611-3629. Sarti, Mr. P. A. List of marbles in the British Museum moulded by Mr. P. A. Sarti, jdpp. p. 445. See also Moulds of Statues. Saurians. The class of, in the British Museum,-is more perfect than that in the French Museum, Marshall 707. Saxony. Despatch from the Hon. F. R. Forbes to Viscount Palmerston, dated Dresden, 12 May 1835, relative to literary insututions in Saxony, App. p. 49^- Direction and salaries of officers of literary collections at Dresden, consisting of the picture gallery, the gallery of antiques, the collection of medals, the cabinet of natural history, the collection of physical and mathematical instruments, the* historical museum, the collection of copies of antiques in plaster of Paris, the collection of engravings, the jewel-office and armoury, App.p. 494 Number of librarians, salaries, volumes of books and manuscripts in the library at Dresden, App. p. 495 Library at Leipzig is under the control of the minister of worship ; salary of the Hbrarian, App.p. 495 Admission of the public^ to th? li- braries, App. p. 495- Scientific Collections. Mode adopted by the trustees when scientific collections are offered forsale,£ffis 128-130. > ' Scientific Men. See Heads of Departments. Rewards. Trustees, 2. Scientific Societies. There are scientific societies in Paris of recent origin, corresponding with those in London, Srown 3738-3740. Sculpture. Mode of admission of artists for the study of statuary, Hawkins 3498 -The more beautiful sculptures are multiplied the greater advantage it is, Westmacott ^g^j There is a greater disposition to taste in sculpture in France than in England, each ro- vince having its academy which is supplied with casts from Paris, Westmacott 3953; 3964- Works of modern art that are in the Museum, Westmacott 3977-3982. See Marbles. Monuments. Moulds of Statues. , Sculptured Tortoise. See Kyd, Lieutenant-general. Secretary to the British Museum. Emoluments of the secretary ; that office has not for any. length of time been held conjointly with that of principal librarian, Effis 294-304- The secretary always attends the Board, ^llis 329, 330. See also Manuscripts, Keeper of. • • Security. The officers of each department give security for the integrity of the different collections ; the inferior officers do not give security, though appointed by the prmcipal trustees, £/fe 346-351. Senkenberg Museum. See Frankfort, 3. Sessional Papers of the House of Commons. Employment of witness on a general index to the Sessional Papers, 1801 to 1826, Millard 2293-2302 Nature ot Mr. Millard s employment in combining the Sessional Indexes to Papers into one General Index, 1801 to 1826, which was done to witness's satisfaction, Hansard 2363-2385 Different persons formed the annual indexes to the Sessional Papers; some were done by Mr. Millard ; but the combination into one index, and making cross-references, was his prin- cipal business, Jiamafd 2389-2398. Seymour, George H„ Esq. Despatch from him to the Duke of Wellington, dated Florence, 29 December 1834, relative to literary institutions in Tuscany, App.p. 488., Shaw, Dr. See Zoological Collection. Shells. See Cpnchological Colkction. Fossil *SAe/Zs. Sicily. Despatch from the Honourable William Temple to the Duke of Wellington, dated Naples, 21 January 1835, relative to literary institutions in Sicily, App, p. 489-— -Lon- ■ tents of the Royal Museum at Naples; its control and direction ; departments into whiph divided; annual expenses, and out of what fund defrayed; admission of the pubhc, 4^g. ' 4K 4pp. p. 4^9 6i8 SIC SPA [Britlsli Sicily — continued. _App, p. 489 Number of public libraries at Naples ; number of librarians ; annual expense of books ; general annual expenses ; out of what funds paid ; names of libra- rians.; admission of the public; number of books and manuscripts, kc, App. p. 490 Diocesan libraries in the provinces under the superintendence of the Minister of the Interior, App.p.^gi. Simcoe's Prints. Rejection of Mr. Simcoe's collection of prints, and subsequent sale by auction, at which they fetched a higher price than offered by the Museum, Ellis 1560- 1569. 1624-1628. Skins. There may be some duplicate old skins stowed away, and not exhibited, but which cannot be parted with. Children SMS-SHS- -See also Quadrupeds. Shane, Sir Hans, his Collection. There is a catalogue of the Sloane maQuscripts,.£Z/w jt^gy Doubts of there being any catalogue containing the number of specimens. Brown 3651-3653 His catalogue will determine the number of specimens; the ex- posure to the light having destroyed them, in consequence of the bad mode in which they were preserved, is a circumstance that could not be prevented, Samouelle 3880- 3893 A. portion of Sir Hans Sloane's entomological collection has been destroyed annually, until there is none of it remaining ; the specimens decayed partly from his mode of keeping them, Konig 2743-2759. His collection of insects was not very valuable at first from the method Sir Hans Sloane had of preserving them, Konig 2757 ^The Sloane collection is nearly in the same state of preservation as it was fifty years ago, Brown 3645-3650 Charge by the Edinburgh Review of 1823, of injury to the Sloane collection by dust and worms, and contradiction of that charge to the extent that witness has examined the collection, Brown 3654-3662 At the period of the attack by the Edinburgh Review it was necessary to remove Sir Hans Sloane's eollection from the public eye, as they were useless, Samouelle 3819 The volumes containing the collection will be more accessible than they have been; the previous want of access was partly caused by limited space. Brown 3663-3666. Shane, Sir Hans, Herbarium of. The herbarium of Sir Hans Sloane is in as perfect a state as that of Sir Joseph Banks, if not more so, Ellis 1620, 1621 The herbaria of Sir Hans Sloane is contained in a number of volumes, whose contents are miscellaneous, and can only be rendered accessible by an index, Brown 3644. Smith, Mr. Copy of Mr. Smith's report, as keeper of prints and drawings, to the trustees of the British Museum, dated 18 March 1824, App, p. 413. Smith's Fossils. The price paid for Mr, Smith's collection of fossils was a fair remuneration Konig 2886, 2887. Soane, Sir John, See Salt's Egyptian Antiquities. Societies. See Natural History Societies, Scientific Societies. Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge. Being a member of the committee of that society does not interfere with witness's duties at the Museum, Ellis 289-292. See also Elgin Marbles, Spain: 1. 'Literary Institutions. 2. National Museurtis. 3. Royal Academy of History. 4. Royal Conservatory of Arts at Madrid. 5. Provincial Libraries and Archives. 6. Library of the Junto of Commerce. 1. Literary Institutions : Despatch from George VilHers, esq. to Viscount Palmerston, dated San Ildefonso 9 August 1835, Jelative to literary institutions in Spain, App. p. 500. ' 2. National Museums : Decree of the King of Spain, iS August 1824, Ministerio de Hacienda de Espana App. p. 501 Plan de Enseiianzas particulares para varias ciudades de Reino App p. 508 Instruccion que contiene las Reglas que se han de observar, para que se veri- fique en Madrid la exposicion publica de los objetos de la Industria Espanola en la dia deSan Fernando del aiio pr6ximo de 1827, conforme al Real Decreto, de 30 de Marzo ultimo, que se circu]& k los Intendentes y demas Autoridades, App. p. 509 Roval Asturian Institute, general regulations; extractado de la Ordenanzadel Ynstituto Apv ' p. 514 Asimismo rigistrando en el Archivo de este dicho Rl Ynstituto halle la licencia 6 privilegio que ce concede al Ynstituto que es ^ la letra como sieue App p. 514 — -Royal order of the Kmg of Spain, 16 February 1777 (Gallicia), Appfp.'^ig. 9.' Royal Academy of History ; Control and direction thereof ; departments into which divided ; general annual ex- penses ; funds out of which defrayed ; admission pf the public, App. p. 500. 4. Royal Museum ; 1835.J SPA S W I 619 Spain — continued. 4. Royal Conservatory of Arts at Madrid : Direction thereof; departments into which divided; annual expenses; funds out of which defrayed ; admission of the public, App. p. Qoi Plan de Enseiianzas para el real Conservatorio de Artes, -^pp. p. 503. 6. Provincial Libraries and Archives : Names of towns ; numberof libraries or museums; amount of funds annually assigned for payment of librarians ; purchase of books and incidental expenses; sources of funds; number of volumes of books and manuscripts ; printed catalogues ; authority under which placed ; admission of the public ; general rules of the establishments, App.p. 51 1-513. 6,. Library of the Junta of Commerce at Corunna : Regulations of the library of the Junta of Commerce at Corunna, App. p. 515. Specimens. As a general principle, specimens should not be made up of ,dift*erent parts of other animals, CAi7rf?en 3176. Spelman's Archaismus Graphicus. This work was lent by witness to Mr. Millard, that he might make himself acquainted with the contractions of manuscripts, Ellis f8S2 — '— Sir Henry Ellis laid this work on witness's table, but witness considered more his duty to continue his index than to spend his time in learning to read manuscripts, Millard 2288 ^No recollection of receiving this work by way of loan from Sir Henry Ellis, Millard 2339-2341. 2349 Witness did lend Mr. Millard this work, that he might become acquainted with the contractions in manuscript writing, Ellis 2351. Spirits. Specimens in spirits are spoken of as one of the finest collections, Children 3380 Specimens of natural history in spirits are accessible to the public on public days, and to the principal librarian at all times. Children 3389-3394. Spirits of Wine. Expense thereof for preserving subjects of natural history, Ellis 1159-1161. Staedal Institution. See Frankfort, 2. Stanley, Lord. When Secretary of State for the Colonies, presented to the Museum some edible bird's-nest, sent by Sir Wilmot Horton from Ceylon, Gray 3360. Statues. There is an increasing demand for statues and busts when they are good, Sarti 3562-3567. See also Apollo, Statue of. Fighting Gladiator. Marbles. Moulds of Statues. Roman Statues. Theseus, Statue of. Vatican. Venus de Medicis. Statutes, Rules and Bye-Laws. Copy of all statutes, rules and bye-laws of the trustees of the British Museum now in force, App.p. 378-382 Statutes and rules of the trustees now in force with respect to the admission to the reading-room and the different other collections, and generally for the management of the Museum and collections, 1821, App. p. 401. Stockholm. See Sweden. Stone, Mr. Regret that Mr. Stone's collection of British insects was not purchased, as it would have completed the Museum collection, Samouelle 3824-3828. Students. The number of students falls off during the later hours the Museum is open, Ellis 1285. Stutgard. See Wirtemberg. Surgeons, College of. There were some skins of birds in bottles transferred to the College of Surgeons ; difficulty iri ascertaining what portion was sold by auction, Konig 2765- 2768. See also Zoological Collection. Sweden. ' Despatch from Sir Edward C. Disbrowe to Viscount Palmerston, dated Stock- holm, 29 July 1835, relative to literary institutions in Sweden, -4/'i'.i'. 497 Report on the state of the national libraries in Sweden, Jpp. p. 497 -Number of libraries at Stockholm ; number of librarians ; annual expense of books ; annual expenses, and out of what fund paid ; admission of the public ; number of volumes of books and manu- scripts; government of the institution, App. p. 499, 500 Superintendence of the provincial libraries ; admission of the public, &c., J/pp.p. 500. Switzerland : 1. Uterary Institutions. 2. Museum of Natural History at Bern. 3. Library, 1. Literary Institutions: Despatch from D. R. Morier, esq. to Viscount Palmerston, dated Bern, 26 June 1835, relative to literary institutions in this country, Jpp.p.4g5. 2. Museum for Natural History at Bern : • Direction of the museum of natural history at Bern ; departments into which divided ; general annual expenses ; funds out of which defrayed ; admission of the public, Jpp. P' 495- „ T i 4 K 2 3. Library: 620 S W I T R U [British Switzerland — eontinued. 3. Librari/: Salary of librarians; annual expense of books; annual expenses ; funds out of which paid; admission of the public; number of volumes, of book's and manuscripts ; govern- ment of the institution, Jpp. p. 495. Synopsis. Number of copies of the Synopsis printed, and number of copies sold, Ellis 1052-1055 Number of copies printed, profit to the trustees, and whether advisable to rediice the price, ^llis 1148-1157 To what extent witness is responsible for the publication of the Synopsis; those who are answerable for errors are those who write the particular article, ^llis 2518-2528 Persons who are responsible for different por- tions of the Synopsis, miis 2536-2541- — —Witness is responsible for the Synopsis as far as the insects are exhibited, Samouelle 38J4, 3875 Objections to the principals of departments putting their names to that portion of the Synopsis which describes the col- - lection under theircontrol.K^iJm'g 2880-2885. Examination upon the different passages in the Synopsis, and how far the whole requires revision,\Komg 2888-2990. 2914-2940, Children 3193-3197, Gray 3323-3333 ^^De- scription in the Synopsis of the ourang outang and chimpanze, and how far those descriptions are adhered to by witness. Children 3438-3440 Estimate showing the price per copy at which the Synopsis of the British Museum could be printed, according to the description of paper and number of copies, Clowes 2769-2794 Estimate by Mr. Clowes for printing the Synopsis of the contents of the British Museijm, with spe- cimens, App. p. 444 ^Account showing the number of copies of the Synopsis of the British Museum which have been printed, and the manner in which they have been dis- posed of, 1821 to 1833, App. p. 368. See also British Specimens. Donors, Names of. Marbles. Ornithological Collection. T. Taste. Extraordinary improvement of the taste of the country since the acquisition of the Elgin marbles, Westmacott 3960-3962 If the Jupiter and Mercury in Mr. Payne Knight's collection were moulded, and casts at a cheap rate obtained from them, it would tend to improve the public taste, Westmacott 4004, 4005. See also Visitors. Temminck. The ornithological is arranged principally according to Temminck, and his generic names adopted. Children 3128. Temple, the Hoq. William. Despatch from, to the Duke of Wellington, dated Naples, 21st January 1835, relative to literary institutions in Sicily, App. p. 489. Theseus, Statue of. This statue has been moulded three times, Sarti 3598. Thorpe, Mr. Qualifications of Mr. Thorpe, as a Saxon scholar, and whether his learning would not be desirable in the manuscript department, Forshall 874'-883. Titles. See Index to Manuscripts. Townley Collection. See Duplicate Books and Coins. Townley Marbles. Account of expenditure for the drawings and engravings for the Town- ley marbles, 1 834, App. p. 404. See also Marbles. Transcripts. Fees for transcripts are not taken unless the officer makes the transcript* Ellis 275-280. Trustees of the British Museum: 1. Generally. 2. Proposal for adding Scientific Men to the Trustees. 3. Effect of Public Functionaries being Trustees. 4. Elected Trustees. 6. Family Trustees. 6. Official Trustees. 1. Generally: Number of trustees, and of what descriptions, Ellis, 12 High literary attainments of the trustees shows them to be amply qualified for the office, Ellis 92-117 The con- stitution of ths Museum might be improved, though not the slightest reflection can be cast on the present trustees, Children 3109, 3110 How far the trustees are responsible for the wants of the Museum when those wants are not fairly brouo-ht before them Children 3403-3407 Circumstances under which the original nomination of trustees for the British Museum took place, Ellis 223-225 Within what period after the death or resignation of a trustee vacancies are filled up, Ellis 89 Are filled up bythe three principal trustees ; manner in which the publicity is given to the fact of a vacancy Ellis 364-369. , ■'' 2. Proposal for adding Scientific Men to the Trustees : Opinion in favour of taking the evidence of scientific men, when occasion requires rather than having scientific men at the Board, whose opinions might have undue weight Ellis 122-127. 192-200. 211-213 The oflace'of elected trustee is considered th«- blue ribbon of literature; it would not be a greater advantage to the institution that men of science should be elected instead of the present trustees, Ellis 138-154— J>fames of trustees who have been appointed, but not for their works on literature or science, Ellis 160-160 Museum; 1 835- J T R U VAL 621 Trustees of the British Museum — 2. Proposal for adding Scientific Men,£ic. — continued. 160-169 ^Trustees who are men of science and literature, with wealth and rank attached, are better calculated for the ofBce than those who make literature or science a profession, Forshall 643-693. 709-713 Evils that would arise from the presence of men particularly eminent in any branch of science among the trustees, -ForsAa^/ 714-718 T?he addition of the most eminent literary and scientific men to the Board of Trustees would be beneficial, Children 3072-3076 The honour of a trusteeship would be a benefit to sciience, and induce men to turn their attention to scientific objects. Children 3087-3089 Further evidence upon the supposed effect of associating scientific men with the trustees. Children 3079-3086. Whether certain men of science named would benefit the Museum by being attached to it as trustees, Children 3090-3094. 3101 Very eminent scientific knowledge ought not to be a sufficient inducement for election were the individual not possessed of amia- ble qualities. Children 3095-3100. 3102. 3104 Distinguished scientific men who have been trustees have also been men of high rank. Children 3111-3115 Scientific and literary knowledge should be united in trustees of the Museum, Children 3116 The trustees have not been elected from professionally scientific men ; men distinguished in branches of science with which the Museum has little connection would not be particularly well qualified for the management of such an institution as the Museum, Brown 3707-3712 Scientific knowledge, particularly as regards natural history, should not be overlooked as a qualification with regard to the election of trustees. Brown 3721- 3723- 3. Effect of Public Functionaries being Trustees : The important duties of great public functionaries leave them but little time to attend to the business of the Museum, Children 3108 Gentlemen holding high official situations, whose avocations would prevent their attending to the concerns of the Museum, would be equally as objectionable for its management as scientific men engaged in professional pursuits. Brown 3716-3720. 4. Elected Trustees : Names of the elected trustees, £!llis 18 Mode of electing trustees, and at what place the election held, Mlis 46-63. 5. Family Trustees: Names of the family trusteesi, Ellis 17 Are appointed by Act of Parliament, Ellis 19, 20 They could not extend their number upon any donation being granted to them without an Act of Parliament, Ellis 33. 90 How far the body of trustees would inter- fere in the event of an hereditary trustee being a minor or an idiot, Ellis 21-29 The trustees have no veto on the appointment of family trustees, Ellis 30-32 Appointed on the principle that the successors of families should have an opportunity of seeing that the donation or bequest was disposed in the way the donor intended, Ellis 35 No limited amount of donation or bequest that will give the donor a claim to appoint a family trustee, Ellis 34 Donation of works of value to the Museum does not constitute any ground for the selection of trustees, Ellis 210 Return of the names of the family trustees of the British Museum, apd the mode in which each family nominates such trustees, App. p. 395. 6. Official Trustees : Names of the official trustees, Ellis 16 Cause of the Presidents of the Royal Academy, and of the Society of Antiquaries, being appointed official trustees, Ellis 226, 227. See also Donations and Bequests. Haworth, Mr. Heads of Departments. Literature. Patronage. Visitation. Tuckey, Captain. See Rock Specimens. Turin. See Sardinia. Tuscany. Despatch from George H. Seymour, esq. to the Duke of Wellington, dated Florence, 29 December 1834, relative to literary institutions in Tuscany, App. p. 4.88 Particulars as to the Museum of Natural History at Florence, departments into which divided, annual expenses, and out of what fund defrayed, admission of the public, &c., App. p. 488 ^Museums of antiquities in the provinces, App. p. 488- Public libraries at Florence, and in the provinces, their direction, annual expenses, admission of the public, &c., Jpp. p. 488. U. Unstuffed Specimens. See Natural History, Collection of. University Ubrary at Copenhagen. See Denmark, III, 3. UpcQtt's Manuscripts. Rejection of Mr. Upcott's offer of manuscripts, Ellis 1573-1577. V. Value of Collections. How far the trustees arm themselves with evidence as to value, pre- vious to aiiy application to Parliament for a grant above 2,000 Z. for the purchase of any curiosity, £/S« 1578-1581- ' „ . 479. 4 K 3 Vatican. 622 VAT ' WES [British Vatican. It would be useful to the Museum and to the country if there was a dep6t of fine ^ casts from the principal statues of the Vatican, Westmacott 3942. Vellum. No copies of any Museum publications have been printed on vellum at the public expense, App.p. 368. Ventilation. See Reading-room. , Venus de Medicis. This statue was moulded only twice in 50 years, Westmacott 3943, Villiers, George, Esq. Despatch from, to Viscount Palmerston, dated San Ildefonso> 9 August 1835, relative to literary institutions in Spain, App.p. 500. Visitation. Nature and use of the annual visitation, besides which the trustees make inspec- tions when they think proper, Ellis 75-83. 353-359» Forshall qio-qiq- Visitations and minute examinations occasionally take place by sub-committees, Ellis 84-86 Extent to which the annual visitation is useful; collections are previously placed in the most complete order; interest taken by individual trustees in the collections, Gray 3258- 3270. Visitors. They continue to come to the last moment the Museum is open, but the greater number come at earlier hours, Ellis 1286 Good conduct of the public generally while visiting the Museum, Samouelle 3915, 3916 Increase in the number of visitors at the present day over formerly, Samouelle 3918 Visiting the Museum would improve the taste of the pubfic, Samouelle 3919 Return of the number of persons admitted to a view of the British Museum, 1807 to 1813, App. p. 296 1807 to 1814, App.p. 298 • 1808 to 1815, App. p. 301 1809 to 1816, App.p. 303 1810 to 1817, App.p. 306 1811 to i8i8, App. p. 308 1812 to 1819, App. p. 311 1813 to 1820, App.p. 313 — —1814 to 1821, App. p. 315 1815 to 1822, App. p. 318 1816 to 1823, ipp./*. 3^1 1817 to 1823, Jpp.p.S'24- 1818 to 1824, -^PP- P- 327 1819 to 1825, App. p. 329 1820 to 1826, App. p. 33"^ 1821 to 1827, App.p. 334 1822 to 1828, App. p. 337' 1823 to 1829, App. p. 340 1823 to 1830, App.p. 342 1826 to 1831, App.p. 346 1826 to 1832, App.p. 349 1827 to 1833, App- P- 352 1828 to 1834, App. p. 356. Voyages of Discovery. See Naturalists. W. Watchmen. Are appointed by the principal librarian, Ellis 6. Wax. See Moulds of Statues. Webster, Sir Godfrey. The purchase of his collection of manuscripts have been declined at the price demanded for them, Forshall 829. Wellington, Duke of. Whether the name of Sir John Herschel is not as extensively known throughout the globe as that of the Duke of Wellington, Children 3117-3120. 'Welsh Domesday. The remuneration to witness for editing the extent of Welsh manors, or the Welsh Domesday for the Record Commission, will be according to the value the Com- missioners set on the work, Ellis 285-288. Westmacott, Richard, e. a. (Analysis of his Evidence.) — The terms on which witness per- mitted to make moulds of the Elgin marbles were that the public should have every facility, and that the prices should be brought as reasonable as possible, 3928-3931 Offer of the moulds for sale to Sarti, which had it been accepted, would have been men- tioned to the trustees, 3932-3941 Appointing a moulder to the Museum would be a dangerous thing, as many statues would suffer very much from being moulded, 3942 The appointment of a moulder under competent superintendence, with a proper place for working, would be a great advantage in improving public taste by the circula- tion of good casts at a cheap rate, 3943-3952. There is a greater disposition to taste in sculpture in France than in England, each pro- vince having its Academy, which is supplied with casts from Paris, 3953, 3954 Casts were taken in France from every statue of celebrity that was taken there, previous to its being returned to Rome, 3955-3957 Extraordinary improvement of the taste of the country since the acquisition of the Elgin marbles, 3960-3962 Improvements in the productions of the Potteries from the same cause, 3963-3965 The room in which the Elgin marbles are placed is one of the finest in the world, and as finely lighted as any, 3966-3973 Desirable that Government should occasionally purchase works of classical sculpture, 3974, 3975 Government have occasionally encouraged sculpture by monu- ments to eminent men, 3976, 3977 Works of modern art that are in the Museum, 3977-3982. Students to the Gallery of Antiquities generally come recommended by Royal Acade- - micians, though it is not absolutely necessary, 3983-3985 Delicate bronzes would suffer more from moulding than marbles; large bronzes not so much^ 3988 Moulding in wax would do ie_ss injury to the statue than plaster ; but on account of its pliability could not be used for large statues, 3989-3999 It is not desirable that moulds should be taken of the smaller bronzes in the Museum, 4000-4003 If the Jupiter and Mer- cury in Mr. Payne Knight's collection were moulded, and casts at a cheap rate obtained from them, it would tend to improve public taste, 4004-4005- Government patronage would do much to elevate public taste and advance the arts, 4006. ° Westmacott, Museum; 1835.] WES ZOO 623 Westmacott, Mr. Mr- Westmacott's proposal for making moulds from marbles in the Elgin collection, dated 15th" February 1817, App. p, 444 Conditions on which the trustees accepted Mr. Westmacott's proposal, App. p. 445. See also Elgin Marbles. White's Bequest. Bequest of Mr. White is in reversion, dependent on two lives ; reason the mention of it was omitted in a return presented to the House of Commons, Forshall 438-441 State of this bequest, and powers and expectations of the trustees with regard to it, Forshall 1655, 1656. Whitsun Holidays. See Holidays. Reading-room. Windows. Rooms for collections should be lighted with side windows, Samouelle 3913. Wirtemberg. Despatch from Lord William Russell to the Duke of Wellington, dated Stutt- gard, 10 December 1834, relative to literary institutions in Wirtemberg, jl/ip. /j. 486 ' Direction and control of the cabinet of natural history, and that of medals, anti- quities and artfe ; annual expenses, and out of what funds paid ; admission of the public, &c., App. p.^8j Direction of the library at Wirtemberg; expense of books; annual expenses; out of what funds paid ; admission of the public; number of volumes of books and manuscripts; provincial library, App.p.^Sj. Woods and Forests Reports. Indexes made to several of these reports by Mr. Millard, under witness's direction, Hansard 2386, 2387. Works, Board of. See Buildings. Wyndham Club. See Index to Manuscripts. Wynn, Sir Henry W. W. Despatch from him to the Duke of Wellington, dated Copen- hagen, 24 March 1835, relative to literary institutions in Denmark, App. p. 481. Z. Zoological Collection, Whether the zoological collection in the Museum is not equally conducive to the interests of science as that in the Jardin des Plantes, although the collections in the latter are more extensive, Forshall 624-632 Comparison of the zoological collection cf the Museum with that of Paris and Berlin, Gray 3354, 3355— Objects of zoology may have been left in their cases unpacked, it being considered they were less liable to injury than if exposed to the air, Fonhall 1119 This collection is inferior in completeness to that of the minerals and fossils, Konig 2558-2564 Arrangement by witness in the zoological collection, which was subsequently broken up, Konig 2628 Complaints of nomenclature and the mode of classing objects in zoology, but which have been equally defended as complained of; any decided incorrect- ness would be interfered with by witness, Konig 2629-2637 Instance of Dr. Shaw's burying and burning zoological rubbish, Konig 2755 All the specimens of zoology that can be conveniently exhibited are so, Konig 2797. How far it is arranged so as to be attractive to the public and useful to the student, and whether improvement might be made. Children 3361-3369 Witness had no communication with the architect or knowledge of the space to be allotted to zoology in the new buildings. Children 3370-3375' Extent to which a general system of classification and nomenclature is adopted. Children 3376-3378 Extent to which the zoological subjects are actually named. Children 3379 A catalogue of the col- lections of zoology, like that of the College of Surgeons, would be useful, but also expensive, and it would be better to wait till the new building allows of more complete arrangement, Children 3413-3426. See also Perishable Articles. Zoological Department. Extent to which witness is responsible for the arrangement of the zoological collection. Children 3038-3043 There is not sufficient assistance in the zoological department. Children 3047-3053. 3433- Zoological Garden. Comparison with Continental establishments of species of living animals exhibited therein in the first two or three years of its formation, Gray 3357. Zoological Lectures. Delivery of them in the Museum would be beneficial, but would be attended with very great expense, CAi/dren 3187. Zoological Society. They liad the picking of the specimens of natural history collected on Captain Franklin's voyage, before any part were presented to the Museum, Konig 2862 . Government has from time to time presented the better specimens that have been collected by naturalists and officers accompanying expeditions', to the Zoological Society, Konig 2863. See also Beechy, Captain. Chanticleer, H. M. S. Franklin, Captain. King, Captain. Parry, Captain. R E P O R T mSi B RITISH MUS EiJM. Ordered^ by The Hotise of Commons, to be Printed^ 6 August 1835. 479. ■iy«& :^Tt^%r ' .t•*^• ^^»■v^ t34^^^ -#%r.. >«-W :t 'iV-^'^^'—r^,''^ Z^--*^;- ■■=;■»* -ifuijf^-^ ,.K?f: ;;^.i^