SUBSTANCE OF THE SPEECH OF THE RIGHT HONOURABLE LORD SHEFFIELD, Monday, April 22, 1799, UPON THE SUBJECT OF UNION WITH IRELAND, LONDON : Printed for J. DEBRETT, oppofite Burlington Houfe, Piccadilly. S54- SUBSTANCE OF THE SPEECH OF LORD SHEFFIELD, Jlpril 22, 1799. &c. &c. JL HE Chancellor of the Exchequer moved the order of the day for taking into confideration the Addrefs from the Lords upon the fubjecT: of the Union with Ire- land ; which being read, he moved that the faid Addrefs be now taken into conside- ration. 3350 [ 2 ] The Addrefs was then read twice, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer moved, That this Houfe do concur with the laid Addrefs, Lord SHEFFIELD fpoke as follows : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I wifh it to be underftood, that I fup- port the refolutions and addrefs, in confi- dence that the affu ranee given by a noble Lord in an official fituation in Ireland will be ftrictly obierved, namely, that Mioifters will look to the fenfe of Parliament and of the Country, before the meafure of Union {hall again be brought forward there ; and that aflurance being given, I am not fenfible of any fufficient argument that mould pre- vent the Britifh Parliament from giving fome general explanation of the arrange- ment it is difpofed to make, more efpecially [ 3 3 as I obferve that fcarcely any man in this country objects to the principle of the meafure ; nor can I fuppofe, that a nation fo well informed and fo much accuitomed to political conliderations as the Irifri, mould for a long time perfevere in refufing to receive or examine what may be pro- poied from the Britim Parliament ; and for thefe reafons I wiih to trouble the Honfe with a few obfervations. We cannot be much furprized at the alarm which has taken place in Ireland. The word Union was fuffered to be banded about there for many months without the {iighteft attempt on the part of the Minis- ters to explain the terms of it. The aid of designing men, and of thofe prejudiced from partial and local conliderations, was fcarcely neceffary to take advantage of this circumftance : the apprehenfions of Ireland B 2 C 4 ] had always been, that an equal and favour- able Union woyld not be granted : and no fmall part of that people were made to be- lieve, that their liberty, their independence, their dignity, and almoft the exiftence of the nation, would be done away by their becoming one and the fame with the moft independent and moft refpe&able nation in the world. But, in truth, the meafure of Union was ill-prepared for Ireland, and Ireland was ill- prepared for Union. It is not without com- petent information that I am convinced, if the outline of the liberal proportion for Union, which is now offered, had been at firft properly communicated and with all the plain nefs and candour which fuic the Irifh charadter, it would have been very differently received ; and it is not my opi- nion alone, but the opinion alfo of thofe [ 5 3 who are not friendly to the meafure, that it might have been accepted, at leaft it would have prevented all that mifreprefen- tation and mifapprehenfion which might well be expe<5ted, without fome previous attention. I can hardly imagine a cafe, in refpe£t to which, until underftood, more jealoufy was likely to be entertained than this of a legiflative Union, otherwife the meafure being really fo neceffary and fo advantageous CO Ireland, the ftrange abufe of the words " Dignity and Independence," which have been fo entirely miftaken there would have made little impreffion. I can fuppofe it will be impleading at firft to acknowledge, that the premature op- pofition was the refult of an ill-founded jealoufy. Yet that acknowledgment, and the confequent departure from an hajly oppofition to the meafure, is no more than may be fairly expeded from the candid opennefs of the Irifli character. C 6 ] It is not now the queftion whether the meafure has been brought forward and con- duced as it mould have been, but whether the Britifh Parliament fhould do what de- pends on it to obviate the mifchief which muft arife from independent and feparate Legiflaturesexifting within the fame empire, whether we fhould relinquifh a meafure which feems necefiary to the general fecu- rity and welfare, or take the prefent op- portunity of ftating the outline of it. I mall not trouble the Houfe with a re- petition of hiftorical inquiry into the caufes of the prefent ftate of Ireland, nor with many references to the reports of the Lords and Commons of that kingdom. The caufes and the proofs are but too plain. The noto- riety of numberlefs melancholy fadts, which demonftrate the wretched and dangerous condition of that country, with reafon alarms [ 7 ] every thinking man : it is an unanimous opinion in this country, that fomething is neceffary to be done to preferve Ireland ; and there feems to be almoft a general con- vi&ion, that it can be done only by a legif- lative Union. For my part, I cannot fee the meafure in any other light than that of being abfo- lutely neceffary. It has long been my opinion, and every thing which has hap- pened in Ireland, and in refpect to Ireland during the laft twenty years, particularly that which took place in 1782, and was whimfically enough called " Final Adjufl- ment," have convinced me of that neceffity. When it was found proper to take off the fhackles from the Irifh Parliament, and highly proper it was, a Union fliould have been propofed, and by the fame meafure [ 8 ] only fhould all the commercial and other advantages have been communicated, which were fo indifcriminately conceded without terms fince 1778. It would have been flill better, if an Union had taken place in the beginning of the century, and that the Conftitution and Commerce of Great Bri- tain, which had been fo long and fo invi- dioufly withheld, had been then communi- cated to Ireland. But in 1782, the admi- niftration of that day, without fupplying any means of keeping thefe kingdoms together, rafhly gave away the depend- ance of the two iflands on each other; and now there is no certainty in the connexion of Great Britain and Ireland. Independ- ance of Legiflature feems to have fuggefled notions of feparation, which appeared, in fome degree, as early as 1784. However, even thofe who attempt to juftify what was done in 1782, muft acknowledge, that C 9 1 there were points of eflential confequence left unfettled, and that it fhould not have been poftponed to the hour of difficulty and diftrefs to arrange and afcertain the rela- tive exertions and political connexions of the two countries. Much has been faid on the words <* Final Adjuftment : " but that which is fo called, only referred to the then afferted independence of Parliament, and by no means precluded Union : on the contrary, it was the opinion at the time, that farther meafures were neceffary to eftablifh a con- nexion on a folid and permanent bafis : and fo far as I underftand what was intended, I confider that adjuftment as putting the Irifh Parliament on the footing of inde- pendence and free deliberation, and in that fituation alone which could fatisfy the people of Ireland, that the acts of their Par- [ io ] liament would be thenceforward free and uncontrouled ; but at any rate it is trifling to fuppofe, that nothing more was to be attempted, if that which had been done had not the effefl: of preferving the connexion and attachment of the two countries. It is true that Union became more neceffary, as well as more difficult, in con- fequence of what was done in 1782, and alfoin 1793, when the principle of our na- vigation and colonial laws were, without terms or occafion, facrificed by the ad; which permits goods and commodities of the growth, produ£tion, or manufacture, of Afia, Africa, or America, to be imported from Ireland into Great Britain. All thefe benefits fhould have been referved as the means of Union, but being, then uncon- ditionally granted, they have rendered that meafure much lefs fought for by Ireland ; and I confefs that the flrongeft objection I [ II ] felt to the propositions that were brought forward in the Britifh Parliament in 1785, (which by no means would have done what . it is neceffary to do,) arofe from the appre- henfion, that if carried, they might prevent an Union. It was obvious, that if all the referved advantages of Great Britain were to be given up, there would be no means of future negotiation remaining. Previoufly to that period, Ireland would have petitioned for an Union, and I think me might well do fo now as the greateft poflible acquifition (he could make ; but neither the adjuftment in queftion, nor all the commercial conceffions, nor other' means employed to tranquilize thatcountry, have had the leaft efFecl. The bad ftate of Ireland yearly became worfe. It appears the parties are not to be fatisfied ; that no melioration of the condition of Ireland has c 2 [ « 1 taken place ; that a great proportion of the people is now as ill difpofed to Go- vernment, as bigoted, as ignorant, and as uncivilized as they were at the time of the rnaffacre in 1641. At prefent the permanency of the connexion of Great Britairi with Ireland depends on the par- ties which exift, and ever muft exift, in a nation of Proteftants and Roman Catholics fo peculiarly interefted againft, and politi- cally hoftile to, each other. Thefe divifions are the bane of the country, never to be an- nihilated but by a legiflative Union. The whole prefent fyftem is bad. The change of Government, at leaft every four years, and the conceffions fo regularly made under the vain notion of fatisfying the people, create and promote fchemes and fuggeftions inconfiftent with the tranquillity of the country, and encourage agitators, whofe C '3 3 uniform object it is, to difturb the public mind. I have obferved, that independence of Parliament fuggefted the idea of feparation. Irrational notions of independence, leading to diffolution of Government, muft end in civil war and the introduction of the French. Manufactures and agriculture would then ceafe much more fuddenly than they could poffibly revive ; and what- ever might be the event, Ireland would be completely ruined, and England greatly diftreffed. But fuppofing the crifis in queftion flhould not immediately come on, Ireland would continue in its prefent dif- turbed ftate, and England would ever find Ireland the back door to confpiracy, rebel- lion, and invafion. And fo miferably dif- trafted is Ireland at prefent, that among three millions of Roman Catholics, and [ 14 ] half a million of Diffenters, there is fcarcely a man capable of a political idea, who does not wifh for fomething different from that which is; namely, a Change of theChurch Eftablifhment, the Abolition of Tithes, a Parliamentary Reform, or a Republic ; nor are the members of the eftablifhed Church entirely free from the fame un- happy temper of mind. The common Enemies of mankind will not fail to take advantage of this ftate of things : they have raned it into a dangerous and formidable conspiracy, and it feems the only means through which they can hope of fucceed- ing in their favourite plan of deftroying the Britim empire. Nothing can be more dangerous than a notion, that a coalition of Churchmen, Diffenters, and Catholics, for the pur- pofe of feparation, cannot take place. [ *5 ] The reports of the Lords and Commons of Ireland, and what has happened lately, completely prove, that fuch a coalition is not merely poflible, but that it actu- ally exifts, and that the foundations of it are laid, and deeply laid, already. This fubjecT; has been fo fully and fo ably difcuffed, that it is not neceflary to ftate how general, how great, and how irremediable by common means, are the mifchief and danger : the unexampled pe- rilous ftate of Ireland is well known : it was.therefore evidently the duty of His Ma - jefty's Minifters to bring forward fome meafure to prevent even the poffibility of fo great a calamity as the feparation of the two countries ; and however I may differ in opinion with His Majefty's ' Mi- nifters in refpect to the conducl of this bufinefs, I acknowledge great merit in [ ,6 ] their undertaking fuch an arduous tafk at a time they were fo fully engaged in the moft momentous concerns, and in their not fhrinking from the difficulties which obvi- oufly might prefent themfelves, and which too often induce Minifters to adopt fome temporary expedient (juft to ferve their turn) which never effe&ually fucceeds, but in the end produces greater difficulty and much mifchief. It feems alfo highly in- cumbent on thq Britifh Parliament to take early the moft effe&ual fteps to pro- mote the proper remedy : and every thing has been tried, except that which is ©ow obvioufly the beft and only means, an Union, and which, in confequence of the wild opinions that are abroad, and the dis- turbed ftate of the world, has become ftill more neceffary. Every conceffion has been made, many colonial and commercial advantages, which Ireland could not on [ *7 3 any reafonable ground claim without an Union, have been communicated to her : in fliort, every thing has been granted fo far, that we are now told by the enemies of Union, Ireland cannot acquire more by that meafure, and that (he does not defire greater freedom and extenfion of trade, than fhe at prefent pofleffes, preferring her independ- ence and dignity as a nation. They furely have odd notions of independence and dig- nity who prefer holding almoft the whole of their trade, almoft their exiftence at the difcretion of another country, rather than by right as a part of that country. But I fhould not do juftice if I did not acknowledge this way of thinking is by no means general, and that the two largeft counties, Corjk and Galway, and the city of Cork, county of Clare, and other dif- tri&s of Ireland, had expreffed the con- [ ,8 ] trary, and (o well, that I wifh to make ufe of their own words. Speaking of Union, the county of Cork fays : r f P P J ^ e are ^ rm b r P er fuaded it would -*■ |^add to the welfare, the credit, and the immediate profperity of Ireland, and that by the uniting our ftrcngth in the clofeft manner with the mod free, and moft happy people on earth, we mould exert the beft pofhbie means in our power for preferving the fafety, the honour, and the fecurity of our deareft rights. Determined, therefore, as we are to ftand or fall with Great Britain, we look forward with thegreateft anxiety to this connexion, as the moft effectual "means of put- ting an end to all our factions and religious animofities, and of reconciling the people of Ireland to each other, by doing away all ill-founded jealoufies between fellow- fubjects. We confider it as moft obvioufly and indifpenfably neceflary to the profperity of this kingdom in general, and to the reftoration of that tranquillity and induftry, which alone can render the inhabitant profperous and happy, and moft likely in its confequences to reclaim the deluded people from thofe habits of violence and out- rage to a fenfe of their duty to the laws of their country, and the beft of Kings. City of Cork. < To become a conftituent part of that empire, to whofe protection we owe our political exiftence, and whofe Conftitution is the ad- miration of the civilized world : to participate in thofe refources, which are inexhauftible : to become joint [ I? 1 proprietors of that navy, which is irrefiftible, and to fhare in that commerce which knows no bounds, are objects beyond which our moft fanguine willies for the profperity of Ireland cannot polTibly extend : while the profpect, which they hold forth of terminating the jarring interefts of party, and reconciling the jealous dis- tinctions of religion, promifes, a reftoration of that tranquillity to which this country has been too long a ftranger. r f r 7 J ^ e are P er ^ ua ^ e( ^> tnat a * e * * L g" l fl anve Union with Great Bri- tain> eftablillied on terms of perfect equality, would in- vigorate the refources, increafe the wealth, and add ma- terially to the fecurity of both countries, enabling them to oppofe their common enemy with increafed ftrength and power, and moft effectually to defeat their object of dividing the empire for the purpofe of fubduing it. To confider this meafure as it effects either country fepa- rately, we conceive to be a narrow view of its object : but even in that confined fenfe of it, we are firmly con- vinced it would add to the welfare, the credit, and the immediate profperity of Ireland : and we are of opinion, that uniting our ftrength in the clofeft manner with the wifeft, the freelt, and the happieft people upon earth, with whom we muft neceffarily ltand or fall, is fo far from a facrifice of the honour and independence of Ireland, that it is the belt means left to us for preferv- ing both. Thefe addreffes are moft refpectably figned ; and a third addrefs from the D 2 [ a ] county of Cork, nearly in the fame words, has the fignature of 373 of the principal Nobility, Bifhops, Magiftrates, Clergy, and perfons of property, both Proteftants and Catholics : and there is reafon to believe, that the lentiments therein exprefled are much more general in the feveral counties which have not addreffed than has been fuppofed. Although Ireland has acquired much which (hould only have been conceded by Union, it is not true that (he cannot obtain farther commercial advantages by that mea- fure. The beft market, that of Great Bri- tain, for all Irifli manufactures, is frill re- ferved, except linens, and her linens are become one of the greatefl manufadlures in the world, entirely in confequence of having that market, and could never have been carried on to its prefent great extent, [ .« ] unlefs aided by the prompt payment of Great Britain, which in a great degree a£ts as a fupply of capital *• Six parts in feven of the whole exports of linen from Ireland are imported into Great Britain, and of the feventh part the * The bounties on the export of Iri(h linens from hence at the fame time that they give to Great Britain about an eight of the trade in thofe articles, encourage the ma- nufacture in Ireland. The average of bounties on the export of linens for the laft four years is nearly 34,7 00L Irifti linens exported from Great Britain on an average of the laft four years, Yards entitled to bounty ------ 4,866,015 Ditto not entitled to bounty - - - - 964,507 Total of Irifli linens exported from Great Britain -------- 5,830,522 The duties laid on the import of foreign linens for the purpofe of protecting the Britifli linen manufacture are about 25 per cent, of their real value, and give almoft the monopoly of the Britifli market to many articles of the Irifli linen manufacture. The duties paid on foreign linen ufed in this country, on the fame average, amount to 1 15,000. If the fame rate of duties had been laid on Irifh linens imported and ufed in this ifland under the ufual policy of protecting the Britifli manufacture, as is done in all like cafes, it would raife a revenue of about 650,000!. r ** } greateft proportion goes to America, in- eluding the Weft Indies. On an average of four years,ending the 25th of March 1798, Yards were exported from Ireland 39,885,776 of which to Great Britain - 335695,659 To the Britifh Colonies in America and Iflands in the Weft Indies *-.--- 1,285,998 To the States of America - - 4,012,519 To foreign parts of Europe and to Africa ------ 891,530, being about a 44th part of the whole export of linens from Ireland. Linens are the only Irim manufacture, properly fo called, which has the advant- age of the Britifh market, and it has flou- rilhed accordingly. No manufacture, no trade of Ireland, except fuch as are duty * In this are not included Irifti linens exported from Great Britain to the Briti(h Colonies and to the Ame- rican States, but only the quantities fent directly from Ireland to the places mentioned. [ 23 1 free, or have particular advantages in the Britifli market, have fucceeded. Linens, corn, and the produce of cattle, which alone have thofe advantages, amount on an average of the laft three years to 5,410,825 when the total value of all Irifh imports into Great Britain were 5,612,689 of which there were articles not the manufacture and pro- duce of Ireland to the amount of- - 101,864 So that the articles of Irifh growth or manufafture, which are not duty free, or have no particular exemption or ad- vantage in Britiih ports, amount only to - - - - 100,781 and form a fmall proportion, indeed, of the great importation from Ireland into Great Britain alone amounting to 5,612,689, which, ftated in the manner moil: favour- able to Ireland, is, at leaft, fix parts in {even c m 3 of the whole export trade of Ireland to all parts. We cannot be furprized, that woollen and other manufactures have decreafed in Ireland during the late turbulent flate of that country. We may rather wonder, that they have not been more affeCted : but fuch articles as have the peculiar advantage of the Britifh market, have even lately in- creafed. The manufactures and commerce of Ireland are now, and have always been, greatly inferior to what they may be ; it is reafonable therefore to fuppofe, that when the prefent prohibitory duties which were laid on manufactures coming from all parts to proteCt thofe of England, are, in refpeCt to Irifh manufactures, equalized, as intended by the articles of Union, and they (hall have the advantage of the Britifh market the fame as linens ; the produce of cattle and corn, they may alfo flourifh. [ *5 ] No country is better circumftanCed ftf manufactures than Ireland* She has plenty of water and fuel % the firft requifites in * Moft parts of Ireland, where, through want of fkill and wealth, they have not yet been able to fupply fhemfelves with coal, particularly the manufacturing dif- tricls, are acceffible by water and near the coafts of England and Wales, which abound in coals. Ireland may have that article cheaper from the Weft and North- weft of England and from Wales, than it can go coaftuife to many places in Great Britain where great manufactories are carried on which confume large quantities of that ar- ticle. Coals from Great Britain to Ireland pay only an export duty of 1 4d. per chaldron, when the fame article carried coaftwife to London pays a duty of 9s. 3d. pet chaldron, and to any other part of England 5s. gd. If Ireland does not think it necellary to protect her own col- lieries by any import duty, (he may cheapen the price of" coals to her manufacturers by taking off the duty of is o 9-|d. per ton on the import of that article into Dublin, and of 9-|d. into all other parts of Ireland. The paftage from the Englifh collieries is fhort, and the freight is moderate. And it may be obferved, that inferior forts of coal anfwer the purpofe of manufacture, and that the bogs of Ireland furnifti plenty of excellent feat or turf. E [ 26 ] manufactures. The encouragement to her induftry will be great, efpecially as it will be impoffible to countervail the difference of price of labour and of excifes in the two countries *, and commercial men will acknowledge the fuperior advantage of a near market, and a quick return, fo ab- folutely neceffary to a country wanting capital. If Union fhould take place, there will be no jealoufy, no warfare of bounties and drawbacks, no invidious wifli to check the profperity of Ireland, or any manufacture there, and the great commercial advantages of Ireland will no longer be held at the pleafure of another country. * Import duties in the two countries may be equa- lized, or the difference of thofe duties on raw materials may be paid on import of the article or manufacture, of which it is made. [ *7 ] The profperity of Ireland, fuch as it is, in no degree arofe from the independency of the Irifh Parliament, but from commercial advantages derived from Great Britain. I hefitated when I firft heard that a contrary affertion came from a man as able, as refpec- table, and, at leaft, as well informed, as any in the two iflands ; but the aflertion that the profperity of Ireland arofe from the inde- pendence of her Parliament, appears to me fo entirely unfupported by fact, that I fcarcely know how to reafon about it, except by afking, whether the increafe of the linen manufacture ; whether the prof- perity of the beef, pork, and butter-trade ; whether the growth of a grain of corn, or of a blade of grafs ; whether the opening of the ports of Great Britain to Irifh corn at a lower price than from other countries, have been effected by the independence of the Irifh Parliament : in fhort, which article £ 2 r 2 8 ] of growth or export has increafed in corn fequence of it ? Have the laws been better executed ? Has the country been more tranquil ? Are life and property more fafe? In truth, I can trace little to that event but the prefent disturbed ftate of Ire- land, I repeat, that the profperity of Ire- land entirely depends on the connexion with and advantages derived from Great Britain, without which her trade w r ould be almoft nothing ; and this appears fo per- fectly evident, that I confider it not to be neceflary to add a fyllable more to prove it. When Ireland has acquired the Briti/h ConfHtution a due execution of laws and tranquillity, and that life and property are fe- cure there, Englifh capitals will undoubtedly be employed in Ireland, and then her prof- perity will be real and permanent. At pre- [ *9 ] fent no prudent man will lend one (hilling to that country in any fhape, far lefs will a commercial or manufacturing man rifk his capital in any fpeculation, where a fpirit of unfriendly independence, of fepa ration and of rebellion fo ftrongly prevails ; but furely it is not commercial advantage and wealth only that are wanting to Ireland, She is deficient in the moft effential of all things, good order and well-executed laws. Life and property are not more lecure there, than among the moft difturbed people upon earth, A refidence there is as much to be avoided as in countries fubjeft to the moft hideous tyranny or favage banditti. It is curious, -efpecially at this time, that apprehenfions are exprefled that the num- ber of abfentees will be greatly increafed by an Union. There are now infinitely a greater number of Irifh emigrants, for the [ 3° ) fake of perfonal fafety, than will be occa- fioned if Union mould be adopted. If that meafure mould take place, few families will follow thofe who are called to Parliament : if they make the experiment, the difference of expence will foon check the evil : and thofe that occafionally become abfentees, will be fo by choice, not by compulsion. It will not be improper in this place to ftate, with the view of removing wrong impreffions, that the number and property of abfentees have been always greatly ex- aggerated, and alio the bad effe&s of the confequent drain of money, Thofe w T ho are moft capable of examin- ing the queftion agree, that the remittance to regular abfentees is below 6oo,oool., I believe confiderably, which is not more than one fifth of the value of the exports of [ 3' 1 linens alone to this country, amounting to, at leaft, three millions. According to the common valuation, it may not always ap- pear fo much, becaufe they are rated, at moft, at is. 6d. per yard, even now that their quality is much improved ; but if valued at only ipd., linen and linen yarn will, on an average of the laft three years, amount to a larger fum than I have men- tioned, and more than balance all the im- ports of Great Britain ; including raw ma- terials, as well as remittances to abfentees. The imports of the products and manufac- ture of Ireland into Great Britain on an average of the laft three years, being 5,510,825 and all imports of the produce or manufafture of Great Bri- tain into Ireland - - - - 2,087,672 t m 3 So that there is a balance of upwards of 2,800,000 in favour of Ireland, allowing an actual remittance of 600,000 1. to ab- fentees. The above is the ftatement of the inter* change of produce and manufacture. , Be- fides which, Ireland imports from Great Britain at prefent, in confequence of her being obliged to avail herfelf of Britifb ca- pital, and of her limited commerce, except with Great Britain, Of colonial articles - - - 970,000 Of foreign merchandize - - 498,173 1,468,173 And England receives from Ireland of colonial and fo- reign merchandize - - - 101,874 which gives a balance to Eng- land on foreign and colonial importation of - - - - 15366,309 and if deducted from the above balance of I 33 J 2,800,000, will ftill on the whole, ftating the trade and remittances in the moft fa- vourable manner for Ireland, leave a balance °f 1 5433>69il. in favour of the latter country. It fhould be obferved, that while the imports of the produce and manufa&ure of Ireland into Great Britain are in a pro- greffive ftate of certain increafe, on the other hand, the imports of foreign and colonial articles from Great Britain into Ireland are in a courfe of decreafe ; but I proceed to confiderations of more confe- quence to both countries. I am little difpofed to argue in favour of non-refidence, but I muft obferve, that thofe parts of Ireland, as well as of Eng- land, where manufactures flourifh, are remarkable for the non-refidence of land- proprietors. Yet, in other parts of the [ 34 ] country, I confidcr their abfence as the greateft misfortune , and I conceive one of the moft effential advantages of England over Ireland arifes from the refidence of that clafs of men, and from their great at- tention to the people, and to all the details of the country round them. But we can- not be furprized, that men of fortune in Ireland mould now refide in villas near the metropolis, or abfent themfelves, when we recoiled: the uncivilized ftate of the country. At prefent it cannot be expe&ed from them, nor is it fafe, and unlefs fome great change fhould happen, which will induce and enable men of fortune to live there, and to mftrudt, proted, and encou- rage the people, civilization will go on very flowly. All the fame obje&ions which are urged in Ireland againft an Union, were made by [ 35 1 . Scotland at the time of her Union with England, and every mifchief was pre- dicted, but they all proved unfounded. Arguments, which came from fomeof the ableft men of thofe times, and which then appeared almoft conclusive, are completely refuted by experience. It was faid, that Edinburgh would be deferted and ruined : the fame is now faid of Dublin : but fince Union, the fize of Edinburgh, and the number of her inhabitants, have been more than doubled, and the city beautified in a high degree. All Scotland is greatly improved, her population increafed, fhe is ten times more rich fince that period : her people are civilized, the laws are now exe- cuted, life and property are fecure ; the Le- giflatures of the two Kingdoms no longer at variance as heretofore, and at the rifk of rupture each counteracting the other. Few families of property are now conftantly F 2 [ 36 ] abientees, and almoft without exception, thofe Scotchmen, who go from home and acquire a fortune, in the end carry it to Scotland. Before the Union, Scotland had fcarcely any thing worthy the name of a manufacture : all her efforts to obtain a foreign or colonial trade had failed, but now her manufactures and trade are as great in proportion as thofe of England, And all thefe advantages are greatly be- yond the progreffive improvement which would have taken place without an Union, and without which many of them never could have taken place. The alarm in the city of Dublin on the fubjeCt of Union is faid to be greater and more juft than elfewhere, but I am per- fectly fatisfied that her apprehenfions are un- founded. The abfence of 80 Commoners and 30 Lords, even fuppofing them constantly [ 37 3 "refident before, certainly cannot ruin Dub- lin. The Lord Lieutenant, the principal officers of every kind, the Courts of Jus- tice will ftill remain. She will ftill continue the Winter refidence of the principal people of fortune, as Edinburgh does. She will be the feat of education, of amufement, and of the arts. Her trade will increafe greatly. The complete intercourfe and exchange of commodities which will be eftablifhed by an Union, will raife her commerce beyond what the moft fanguine man has ever yet imagined. Cork, Waterford, and Limerick, will have a great proportion of the provifion and other trade ; but Dublin will be the great mart for the import and export, parti- cularly of manufactures. Dublin will have the great trade to the moft thriving port, perhaps, in the world ; I mean Liverpool, The trade of Ireland with England will be parried on with moft fecurity, efpecially in t 38 3 . time of war, between thofe ports. Every* article of foreign and Britifh manufacture and produce which Ireland does not furnifh or import immediately from the place of growth or of manufacture, fhe may have from thence, Almoft all the widely-ex- tended inland navigation of England points to Liverpool, and may fupply what is wanted to advantage. As Ireland imports but a fmall proportion of her confumption of Weft-India articles directly from the place of growth, Dublin is well fituated for fupplies of thofe articles from Briftol and Liverpool in return for her exports to thofe places. The corn trade will become a prodigious article, if the produce of the two iflands fhould by an Union be put on the fame footing as between two counties in England. The great inland navigations of Ireland will convey corn at a cheaper rate to Dublin, even from Limerick and Con- [ 39 3 naught, much cheaper than by a cir- cuitous and precarious voyage by fea. The canal tolls on corn and flour fhould, in favour of Dublin, be purchafed at the public expence, or greatly reduced ; and the fame fhould be done in refpeft to the docks in the port of Dublin. This would facilitate the intercourfe between the two countries, and be a mutual advantage to them both ; and would ultimately benefit Dublin much more than the refidence; of thofe who would be fent to the united Parliament. Dublin would become the warehoufe of the corn of that kingdom for the fleady and certain corn markets of the North -weft of Great Britain and the North of Ireland, where a very fmall part of the confumption of the inhabitants can poflibly be grown. The Englifli farmer may at firft be alarmed, when he hears, that Ireland will be confidered as a part of t 40 ] England in refpedt to the corn-trad'" ; but the advantages will be reciprocal, and the effect, which fome may apprehend from an influx of corn more than fufficient, can- not take place. Unfortunately we con- ftantly import as much oats as Ireland can fpare at any time, at prefent double the quantity, and that evil is increas- ing rather than decreaung. She is well fituated to furnifh that part of Great Bri- tain, which will always require a fupplyof that kind of corn, and the quantity of wheat fhe is ever likely to fpare will not be fufficient to overload the Britifh markets. It will be much lefs mifchievous to the growers of wheat in England to have thfc ports regularly and conftantly open to the limited quantity that can come from Ire- land, than to have them open to a glut of corn from all parts of the world for three months certain ; the moment the fmalleft t 41 J proportion of the confumption of this country is wanting, the moment its price becomes what is by no means extravagant, but on the contrary, while it is moderate, confidering the increafed expence of tillage. The opening of our ports for three months certain to all the world, when we only want a moderate quantity, may reduce the price of wheat ruinoufly low ; but the comparatively fmall quantity that could come from Ireland, would have no farther effeft than fupplying what may be actually wanted. When Ireland has a conftantly open market in Great Britain for corn, it will prove the greateft encouragement to her farmers to change their flovenly ma- nagement. At prefent their corn is ex- ported in fo bad a ftate, that itmuft meet the corn of other countries at market to great difadvantage. When they have a fteady market, they will foon find the ne- [ 4* ] ceffity of preparing and dreffing their corn in a manner that will enable it to bear a competition with the corn of England. It has been fuggefted, that the manu- factures of Ireland, and particularly the linen trade, would fuffer through the want of a refident Parliament. The principal manufactures and commerce of Scotland are fituated at a greater diftance from Lon- don than thofe of Ireland, and they became what they are fince the Union of the Parlia- ments ; yet there has never been the (lighted complaint in refpeCt to neceflary protection and afliftance from the Britifh Parliament : and perhaps it may not improperly be ob- ferved in this place, that no difad vantage whatever has arifen to the affairs of Scotland in confequence of her having only forty- five Members in the Britifh Parliament, but they have been as well attended to [ 43 ] and as well managed as thofe of England by upwards of five hundred Members, and the government of Scotland has been ad- miniftered fince Union as vigilantly and more impartially than before, and the fame, in all probability, will be the cafe in refpeft to Ireland. The objection to Union on the part of the Proteflants of Ireland is unaccountable : they can hardly be faid to conftitute a na- tion : they are an Englifh colony govern- ing upwards of three millions of Roman Catholics, or, at leaft, fix times their own number in a country acquired and main- tained by Englifh arms and treafure, which colony never could have fupported it-felf; and even the laft Summer would have been overwhelmed, unlefs prote&ed by the fame means by Englifh power. They cannot difdain that defcription ; many of them, I G 2 [ u ] am fure, arc fenfible, that fuch is their fituation, and that their confequence and fecurity depend on the connexion with the Mother Country. In refpeCt to the Roman Catholics, Union alone can make it fafe to fatisfy their claims. By Union, all that enmity, jealoufy, and contrariety of in- terest, which naturally arife between thofe two unequal bodies, muft fqon ceafe. The Proteftants will lofe nothing ; I am fatis- fied their object was not monopoly, but fafety : they will be fafe, and relieved from all apprehenfions, and may have a better tenantry, and more attached to their in- tereft. The Roman Catholics may acquire all they can defire ; and I hope we ihall never again hear of Proteftant afceftdancy or Catholic emancipation, words which have been very infidioufly employed to the worft purpofes. On cool reflexion it will appear, that Ireland will not incur any [ 45 1 difadvantage, but the advantages to be gained by her are the greateft that can be conceived, and, in the firft place, fecurity and tranquillity, as it is reafonable to fup- pofe, that an identity of Conftitution and a due execution of the Laws, will produce the fame effe&s in Ireland as they have done in Great Britain, and particularly in Scotland w T ithin this century. Till Union takes places, and not till then, will the theoretical independence of Ireland be- come praflical. Ireland, in truth, is now actually dependent on England through her divifions, through her trade, and through her Conftitution. Either the Proteftants or the Catholics will depend on Englifti fupport. It has been fhewn, that the trade of Ireland is abfolutely de- pendent on that of England ; and the King of Great Britain being fubje£t to Britifli laws, in obeying him, and under the C 46 ] neceffary controul of his Minifters, Ireland mud: in fome fort be dependent : but flip- pofing two perfectly independent Legifla- tures within the fame empire, they muft always be confidered as in an uncertain and perilous ftate, mutually inconvenient to each other, and always cherifhing difcon- tent and jealoufy. If one Parliament exerts powers in oppofition to thofe of the other, what muft be the confequences ? They are fo obvious, that it would be an abufe of time to ftate them. We cannot refleft with much fatisfadtion on the only two in- ftances which have occurred fince the in- dependence of the Irifh Legiflature, where- in the two Parliaments could a£t oppofitely to each other. The reje&ion of the com- mercial propofitions in 1785, on the part of Ireland, has not obtained the applaufe, even in that country, of the well-informed, and the conduit which was held on the [ 47 3 occafion of appointing a Regency evinced a difpofition to rifk the mifchiefs which might be expedled to arife from the clafhing of two independent Parliaments. In fhort, if the lort of independence which is claimed has any meaning, it leads to feparation-— Union or feparation muft take place ; for it feems agreed on all fides, that the coun- tries cannot go on as they are. Soon after the acceflion of James the Firft to the Thrones of thefe kingdoms, that wife Statefman and Counfellor, Sir Francis Bacon, ftrpngly recommended an Union between England and Scotland. He clearly faw how faulty and precarious the fortunate junction of the two countries would be, if only fupported by the cir- cumftance of having the fame King. He propofed a complete Union. He recom- mends highly the liberal fyftem of the [ 48 ] Romans, obferving, that their naturaliza- tions were, in effedt, perpetual mixtures, not only with perfons, but with cities and countries ; and adds, that there never were any States that were good commixtures but the Romans. He alfo obferves, that the conduft of other kingdoms has been dif- ferent, and confequently the addition of farther empire and territory has been ra- ther matter of burden than of ftrength, and kept alive the feeds of revolt and rebellion for many ages. And he adds, that Arragon was united to Caftile by a marriage ; but after an hundred years, a civil war com- menced in confequence of the bad policy of not incorporating, but leaving it a feparate Government ; and if he had lived as late as thefe times, he might have dated much ftronger cafes. Machiavel alfo at- tributes the growth of the Roman Em- pire to the good policy in incorporating C 49 3 fo eafily with ftrangers ; and Molyneux, the ftrenuous afferter of the independence of the Irifh Parliament, fays, an Union on equal terms would be highly advantageous to Ireland, and the beft means of enjoying that independence : and the Irifh Parlia- ment, in the beginning of this century, ex- preffed a defire for an entire Union. But the times were not fo enlightened as they now are, and a narrow policy prevented the participation of thofe liberal, fair, and equal terms, which are now offered to Ire* land. Theprefent Chief Baron of Ireland, one of the firft conftitutional authorities of that kingdom, and a fuccefsful fupporter of Irifh independence in 1782, has afferted, that the independence of the Irifh Parlia- ment was moft valuable, becaufe it would enable Ireland to treat for a Union upon fair terms* H [ 5° 1 The Union of Wales and Scotland with England, the Union of Bretagne, Dauphiny, and other provinces with France, the Union of the feveral kingdoms of Spain, all of which, while independent, were greatly prejudicial to each other, proved highly advantageous to the different coun- tries and to the empires, in proportion to the completenefs of legiflative Union that took place ; and the fenfible Americans foon difcovered how dangerous their fitu- ation would be, if they remained feparate independent States. Every advantage that was expeded, and more than was expected, has been derived from the Union of Scotland. No countjy was ever more difturbed before and at the time. Nothing could tend more diredly to feparation than the ad of fecurity which palled in the Parliament of Scotland juft [ 5* ] before that event : a great proportion of the people of all ranks were as ill-difpofed to- wards England as the worft difpofed of the Irifh. The Clans were as much out of the reach of the law as any part of Ireland can be fuppofed to be. To cany fire and fword from one diftricl: into another, was as much the difpofition of the Highlanders, as it has been lately of White-boys and Defenders in Ireland. The tafte and fafhion of the people were to be in a fituation to commit hofti- lities, and the chief men of the country, inflead of endeavouring to excite the in- duflry of their dependants, only valued themfelves in proportion to the number of thofe who were difpofed to follow them in arms. Notwithstanding the Crowns of the two kingdoms had been annexed above an hundred years, a connexion with France was ftill kept up, and the mofr. dangerous intrigues carried on. I mail only add, that H 2 [ 5* 3 although the caufes or motives were not precifely the fame, the effects were; and many other inftances of the diforders, and of the refemblance of the fituation of Scotland at that time to the prefent ftate of Ireland might eafily be ftated, and that all thofe circumftances which difhirbed Scotland, as much as Ireland now is, have been done away by Union. Nature has given many local advant- ages to Ireland. Union will give her a Conftitution that is deemed the beft ; will give her tranquillity, wealth, and cha- racter ; and money will be lent in Ireland, when fettled, with as much confidence as in England, Thofe who are now abfentees would find the advantage of refiding there. Englifhrnen would rifk their perfons and property in that country, which, if not [ 53 ] immediately, will in time, become as civi- lized as Great Britain. On the whole, it may be confidently pronounced, Union is moft neceffary, and will be moft beneficial to Ireland. The plan feems formed for her peculiar, al- though I will not fay for her exclufive, advantage, and as a partial friend I could not propofe any thing more favourable for her. Yet it by no means follows, that the great advantages of Union to Ire- land will be counterbalanced by diiad- vantages to Great Britain, or that the gain of Ireland will be the lofs of Great Britain. In a long courfe of years, even if the mea- fure of Union mould not take place, ma- nufa&urcs and trade will decline in fome places when they redouble from various circumftances in others : but pofiible local difadvantages muil not prevent the Legif- [ 54 ] lature from looking to the general p It muft be admitted, the p perity of land would be the profpenty of Great Bri- tain. The inefficient ftatc or :i - a great lofs to the whole. The zd ftate of that country is a gei era! r \ >ack from the profperity of the empire", .very part of which will find the aovanfage of that high degree of improvement which the affimilntion 6i the two coiurtfibs would effecT:. Great additional ftrength, and fe- curity and general profperity to' Great Bri- tain and to the Empire, will be the confe- quence of Union, and the attention of the Executive Government would not here- after, amidffc the diftreffes of war, and at the moment of the utmoft peril, be dif- tracted by confpiracies and rebellion in Ireland. Perhaps no circumftance in the character [ 55 ] of the commercial and manufacturing in- terefts, and of the people in general in Great Britain, gives a greater proof of their liberality and good fenfe, than their acquiefcence on this occafion in fome pof- fible facrifice of manufactures, of com- merce, and of conftitution, for the fake of unity and tranquillity of empire; The energies of commerce furpafs, and fometimes contradict, the moft plaufible calculations : and even in a commercial light England might be benefited by a great increafe of manufactures and com- merce in Ireland, inafmuch as Ireland will be better enabled to pay for the many articles fhe will continue to take from England. We all know that much com- mercial advantage cannot be obtained by trading with a nation which is not rich, efpecially when the produce of the two countries is the fame. The interchange of C 56 3 commodities will animate trade ; and no intelligent man will fay, that the manu- factures of England have decreafed in con- fequence of the great increafe of manufac- tures in Scotland. But thofe who will give themfelves the trouble of examining the queftion will find, that the two countries are mutually benefited by the profperous ftate of their refpe£tive manufactures and commerce, and that competition encourages fkill and induftry, and promotes and en- forces good regulations, and confequent cheapnefs of manufacture. In refpeCt to revenue, the empire will be highly be- nefited ; for with the increafe of wealth, there will be as great increafe in the ex- cife and cuftoms ; and when we enu- merate the commercial and other ad- vantages that would be derived from an Union, we fhould not forget the mif- chiefs that would be avoided, and that [ 57 ] the final termination of the antient alli- ances, x the connexion, and the intrigues of„ France with Scotland, and all proje&s of feparation, were at laft effected by the Union of Great Britain. In refpeft to the incompetence of Parli- ment, it is difficult to believe that that ob- jection is at this time ferioufly urged : if it is, it only convinces me there is great want of argument againft the meafure of Union. The argument w r ould throw us back to firft principles ; that is, the diffo- lution of Government, and to that jargon which has nearly ruined Europe. This dodlrine was ably refuted at the time of the Union with Scotland ; if it had not, it would ill fuit the pretentions of Ireland to eftablifh k. If I fhould be afked, whether I am fatis- i [ 58 ] fled that Union will produce order and fteady profperity in Ireland, I fhould an- fwer, that I am, The fame violence and machinations which exift at prefent to ef- fect feparation might poffibly be attempted at firft ; but when Ireland is irrevocably become a part of Great Britain, thcie would gradually and foon be an end of fpeculations and confpiracies. France would no longer fpeculate on diftinft governments and in- terefts. The enemies of order would not be tempted by any profpedl of fuccefs : they would recollect, that it is not Ireland alone, but the three kingdoms, that mull: be induced to facrifice or yield their Confti- tution : and, as was the cafe in Scotland, when the people of that country, who had been fo averfe to Union, had tafted the fweets of that meafure, they became the mofl ftrenuous fupporters of it ; info- much, that when it was the obje£b to raifc C 59 ] a rebellion there, it was found that a decla- ration againft Union would be unpopular and hurt the caufe. It may appear extraordinary, that fo much ihould be faid in this Houfe to prove the advantage of Union to Ireland ; but the arguments are not fo mifapplied as they may feem to be, they are, iji truth, arguments to recommend the laying a propofition be- fore the Irifh nation fo beneficial, that I can- not doubt but a people of great abilities and capable of difcernment, will, when the heat of their alarm has fubfided, no longer refufe to take into confideration a plan which may be highly advantageous to every part of the empire ; and unlefs the meafure had been ill understood, the unreafonable refufal to liften to any propofition, could not have taken place. i % [ 6° ] In voting for the refolutions, I do not mean to approve more than the principle of Union, to which no adequate objection has been ftated. If we fhould hereafter pro- ceed to details, it will be then neceffary to give all our attention, and exert our beft powers in examining the articles ; and above all, in preventing harm to the Con- ftitution, taking care that we do not, with a levity and fubmiffion that feem to belong to the times, do any thing that may be uri- neceflary for one country, and fhould be highly dreaded by the other. There has now been an opportunity of fome experience, which it is to be hoped will promote the utmoft liberality and can- dour in propofing the meafure, whenever the people of Ireland are found to be dif- pofed to accept it. Every man will agree with me in deprecating all idea of force or t 61 j threats, or the ufe of any means that arc not perfectly fair and honourable. To render Union fatisfa&ory and per- manent, it will not be fufficient that it be merely acceded to by Parliament. The people at large muft be reconciled to it ; and that they may, is the wifh neareft my heart. It is for Ireland that I am moft interested on this occaflon. Her deplorable condition demands it ; for I am moft feri- oufly convinced the meafure is abfolutely necejfary for her tranquillity, fecurity, and welfare. The bad effe&s of two feparate Parliaments within one empire, and the baneful idea of feparation, can be done away only by an Union ; and until that event takes place, Ireland will never be fettled, will always be difturbed by the moft mifchievous fpeculations and in- [ 6% ] trigues, the fport of parties, and of the enemies of England ; fhe will be a weaknefs as flie is at prefent, inftead of a ftrength to the empire. THE END. PUBLICATIONS by DEBRtfTT. OBSERVATIONS on the PRESENT STATE of IRELAND, by Jghn Lord Sheffield ; pub- lished in 1785. OBSERVATIONS on the COMMERCE of the AMERICAN STATES and of GREAT BRI- TAIN, by John Lord Sheffield. OBSERVATIONS on the PROJECT for ABO- LISHING the SLAVE TRADE, by John Lord Sheffield. 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